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Title: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on November 05, 2010, 01:07:10 AM
LOUDDDDDDDDD STEUPSSSSSSSSSSS ANAND


Sir Gavin made an honest mistake—AG
Leah Sorias
Published: 5 Nov 2010
Leah Sorias
Cabinet has approved the nomination of a new judge to solely chair the Commission of Enquiry into Clico and the Hindu Credit Union (HCU), after the previous nominee, retired British High Court judge Sir Gavin Lightman admitted he forgot about representing Clico and businessman Lawrence Duprey in a court matter 20 years ago. Attorney General Anand Ramlogan said yesterday that deputy chief justice of the Dubai International Financial Centre (DIFC) Sir Anthony Colman is the new nominee for commissioner of the inquiry.

In a news conference at his St Vincent Street, Port-of-Spain, office, Ramlogan said Lightman’s mistake was an honest one, as he was in his 70s and simply could not remember an incident that occurred 20 years ago. He said he did not think Lightman set out to mislead him. “This is not something that could be foreseen or predicted or far less avoided,” he said. “It’s like interviewing someone for a job, and when you are interviewing someone for a job, it would depend on the experience and recollection.” Lightman’s involvement in a Clico matter was first raised in the Senate by PNM senator Pennelope Beckles-Robinson two weeks ago.

Earlier this week, she provided documents to support her claims. She said because of this “conflict of interest,” Lightman should not be allowed to conduct the inquiry. Ramlogan said after the allegations, he immediately contacted Lightman, and Lightman dismissed it as being without foundation. “In my initial meeting with him, I would have asked if there was any potential for any conflict of interest, be it direct or indirect, and having heard from Sir Gavin that he was not so conflicted, I then indicated to the media that the allegations were baseless,” the AG said.

Ramlogan said yesterday that he was satisfied with his own investigations that Lightman did, in fact, appear for Clico. “Because of the relation I have with Beckles, I called her on Sunday at her home and I said if you are holding firm to your position, let’s discuss what you know, as you didn’t provide a time frame,” he said. He said he spoke with some people who might have been involved in the matter 20 years ago, and was satisfied that Lightman appeared for Clico. “That does not mean Sir Lightman is conflicted as a matter of law,” Ramlogan said.

He said because of the importance of the Clico inquiry to the nation, and having regard to the extent of the Clico fiasco and because he did not want to taint the integrity of the commission of enquiry, he decided to take a note to Cabinet yesterday, seeking an alternative commissioner. Ramlogan said this was done after a discussion with Lightman. “Sir Gavin has nobly and honourably accepted that he erred and having given careful consideration he now indicated, by way of e-mail, that he wished to decline the appointment,” he said.

Title: Re: LOUDDDDDDDDD STEUPSSSSSSSSSSS ANAND
Post by: 1-868 on November 05, 2010, 04:10:02 AM
Only misprints and honest mistakes from this Pee Pee Gov't
Title: Re: LOUDDDDDDDDD STEUPSSSSSSSSSSS ANAND
Post by: Dutty on November 05, 2010, 07:45:21 AM
weary ah missin someting...why yuh puttin this on anand back

Is not de englishman to blame since he pretend he forget
Title: Re: LOUDDDDDDDDD STEUPSSSSSSSSSSS ANAND
Post by: elan on November 05, 2010, 08:20:43 AM
weary ah missin someting...why yuh puttin this on anand back

Is not de englishman to blame since he pretend he forget

What's the process for selection?
Title: Re: LOUDDDDDDDDD STEUPSSSSSSSSSSS ANAND
Post by: Bakes on November 05, 2010, 08:25:36 AM
weary ah missin someting...why yuh puttin this on anand back

Is not de englishman to blame since he pretend he forget

What's the process for selection?

...or better yet, why is he making excuses... insisting that it was an "honest mistake"?  I willing tuh give "Sir Gavin" the benefit of the doubt if he said "I don't think so.... 'CLICO' doesn't really ring a bell".  But the man flat out come out and say that the accusations were "without foundation". 

Another thing Anand deserve blame for is that he still had an obligation to check for himself, instead he just take the man word for it and denounced the inquiry as "baseless".  If Penny could get she hands on this information why couldn't de Attorney General for crissakes?  What he there for?

Joker.
Title: Re: LOUDDDDDDDDD STEUPSSSSSSSSSSS ANAND
Post by: weary1969 on November 05, 2010, 11:57:53 AM
weary ah missin someting...why yuh puttin this on anand back

Is not de englishman to blame since he pretend he forget

True is Patos fault
Title: Re: LOUDDDDDDDDD STEUPSSSSSSSSSSS ANAND
Post by: elan on November 05, 2010, 12:37:56 PM
Sir Gavin made an honest mistake—AG
Leah Sorias
Published: 5 Nov 2010
Leah Sorias

Cabinet has approved the nomination of a new judge to solely chair the Commission of Enquiry into Clico and the Hindu In a news conference at his St Vincent Street, Port-of-Spain, office, Ramlogan said Lightman’s mistake was an honest one, as he was in his 70s and simply could not remember an incident that occurred 20 years ago. He said he did not think Lightman set out to mislead him. “This is not something that could be foreseen or predicted or far less avoided,” he said. “It’s like interviewing someone for a job, and when you are interviewing someone for a job, it would depend on the experience and recollection.” Lightman’s involvement in a Clico matter was first raised in the Senate by PNM senator Pennelope Beckles-Robinson two weeks ago.


Ah not sure how to interpret that. Is anything wrong in that statement or the entire paragraph. To me that not sounding correct.  :-\
Title: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sam on December 18, 2010, 07:29:02 AM
I really can't stand this guy !!! He seems like a SNAKE !!!!!!

Can any of the locals here tell us how is he doing so far as AG ?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on December 18, 2010, 09:25:03 AM
I really can't stand this guy !!! He seems like a SNAKE !!!!!!

Can any of the locals here tell us how is he doing so far as AG ?
A few things just off the top of my head

1. Week 1 on the job was heard reporting on Laptops for Children

2. Articulated an agenda that was virtually identical to a list of grievances of Devant Maharaj and the GOPIO/ITEC.

3. Publicly attacked and threatened former Commissioner of Police James Philbert  about securing the Guanapo Heights site. Philbert's contract was incidentally  rescinded with a month left.

4. Hired a team of mainly his friends and other associates to investigate the financial operations of a number of state companies at a cost of $11 million(i think)

5. When criticised of this move by Rowley  he proceed to ask facetiously if he should hire his enemies instead . Furthermore he mislead Parliament that PNM Senators Hinds and Al Wari received millions of dollars in state briefs.

6. Delayed the extradition order of Steve and Ish allowing them enough time to appeal and stay the extradition.

7. Played badcop in a goodcop/badcop double team with the PM against Gibbs to come up with a plan for crime.

8. Investigations into Sunways and Hart ongoing. I nearly forget that he boof police for letting Hart go when there hasn't been a charge laid.

9. Investigations into UTT ongoing.

10. Sundry other investigations ongoing. No charges laid by police.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on December 18, 2010, 05:46:26 PM
I really can't stand this guy !!! He seems like a SNAKE !!!!!!

Can any of the locals here tell us how is he doing so far as AG ?
A few things just off the top of my head

1. Week 1 on the job was heard reporting on Laptops for Children

2. Articulated an agenda that was virtually identical to a list of grievances of Devant Maharaj and the GOPIO/ITEC.

3. Publicly attacked and threatened former Commissioner of Police James Philbert  about securing the Guanapo Heights site. Philbert's contract was incidentally  rescinded with a month left.

4. Hired a team of mainly his friends and other associates to investigate the financial operations of a number of state companies at a cost of $11 million(i think)

5. When criticised of this move by Rowley  he proceed to ask facetiously if he should hire his enemies instead . Furthermore he mislead Parliament that PNM Senators Hinds and Al Wari received millions of dollars in state briefs.

6. Delayed the extradition order of Steve and Ish allowing them enough time to appeal and stay the extradition.

7. Played badcop in a goodcop/badcop double team with the PM against Gibbs to come up with a plan for crime.

8. Investigations into Sunways and Hart ongoing. I nearly forget that he boof police for letting Hart go when there hasn't been a charge laid.

9. Investigations into UTT ongoing.

10. Sundry other investigations ongoing. No charges laid by police.

U 4get seeking foriegn advice 4 evryting from Jack and he both wuk 2 d CA fiasco.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: 1-868 on December 18, 2010, 06:03:07 PM
He tell the Police 1st Division officers, that "Crime Watch" solving more crime than them  :devil:
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on December 18, 2010, 07:29:43 PM
He tell the Police 1st Division officers, that "Crime Watch" solving more crime than them  :devil:

YEP
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on December 18, 2010, 08:17:37 PM
He tell the Police 1st Division officers, that "Crime Watch" solving more crime than them  :devil:

He is a consummate asshole. I tried to figure out what he was hoping to achieve with that statement and came to that conclusion.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on December 18, 2010, 08:28:50 PM
He tell the Police 1st Division officers, that "Crime Watch" solving more crime than them  :devil:

He is a consummate asshole. I tried to figure out what he was hoping to achieve with that statement and came to that conclusion.

D GOPIO list confirm dat 4 me.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: rotatopoti3 on December 19, 2010, 10:55:14 AM
AG Plain Plain playing d ass...he definately...losing he feathers fast...

soon he goe be bear breasted....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on December 20, 2010, 05:54:56 AM
I really can't stand this guy !!! He seems like a SNAKE !!!!!!

Can any of the locals here tell us how is he doing so far as AG ?
A few things just off the top of my head

1. Week 1 on the job was heard reporting on Laptops for Children

2. Articulated an agenda that was virtually identical to a list of grievances of Devant Maharaj and the GOPIO/ITEC.

3. Publicly attacked and threatened former Commissioner of Police James Philbert  about securing the Guanapo Heights site. Philbert's contract was incidentally  rescinded with a month left.

4. Hired a team of mainly his friends and other associates to investigate the financial operations of a number of state companies at a cost of $11 million(i think)

5. When criticised of this move by Rowley  he proceed to ask facetiously if he should hire his enemies instead . Furthermore he mislead Parliament that PNM Senators Hinds and Al Wari received millions of dollars in state briefs.

6. Delayed the extradition order of Steve and Ish allowing them enough time to appeal and stay the extradition.

7. Played badcop in a goodcop/badcop double team with the PM against Gibbs to come up with a plan for crime.

8. Investigations into Sunways and Hart ongoing. I nearly forget that he boof police for letting Hart go when there hasn't been a charge laid.

9. Investigations into UTT ongoing.

10. Sundry other investigations ongoing. No charges laid by police.

Yuh forget the man he hire to hold the one man Commission of Enquiry into CLICO.  When told the man had an active role in CLICO's battle with Republic back in de 80's, he laid into Penny/Rowley (cyar remember who raised the issue initially on the PNM side).  When Penny eventually bring the proof he boil down like a good oil down. 

He does behave like a country bookie come to town....I feel asshole is too nice a description.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on December 20, 2010, 08:11:28 AM
I really can't stand this guy !!! He seems like a SNAKE !!!!!!

Can any of the locals here tell us how is he doing so far as AG ?
A few things just off the top of my head

1. Week 1 on the job was heard reporting on Laptops for Children

2. Articulated an agenda that was virtually identical to a list of grievances of Devant Maharaj and the GOPIO/ITEC.

3. Publicly attacked and threatened former Commissioner of Police James Philbert  about securing the Guanapo Heights site. Philbert's contract was incidentally  rescinded with a month left.

4. Hired a team of mainly his friends and other associates to investigate the financial operations of a number of state companies at a cost of $11 million(i think)

5. When criticised of this move by Rowley  he proceed to ask facetiously if he should hire his enemies instead . Furthermore he mislead Parliament that PNM Senators Hinds and Al Wari received millions of dollars in state briefs.

6. Delayed the extradition order of Steve and Ish allowing them enough time to appeal and stay the extradition.

7. Played badcop in a goodcop/badcop double team with the PM against Gibbs to come up with a plan for crime.

8. Investigations into Sunways and Hart ongoing. I nearly forget that he boof police for letting Hart go when there hasn't been a charge laid.

9. Investigations into UTT ongoing.

10. Sundry other investigations ongoing. No charges laid by police.

Yuh forget the man he hire to hold the one man Commission of Enquiry into CLICO.  When told the man had an active role in CLICO's battle with Republic back in de 80's, he laid into Penny/Rowley (cyar remember who raised the issue initially on the PNM side).  When Penny eventually bring the proof he boil down like a good oil down. 

He does behave like a country bookie come to town....I feel asshole is too nice a description.

Is Penny who raise d issue is neva thought he sufferin from.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on December 20, 2010, 08:40:07 AM
I really can't stand this guy !!! He seems like a SNAKE !!!!!!

Can any of the locals here tell us how is he doing so far as AG ?
A few things just off the top of my head

1. Week 1 on the job was heard reporting on Laptops for Children

2. Articulated an agenda that was virtually identical to a list of grievances of Devant Maharaj and the GOPIO/ITEC.

3. Publicly attacked and threatened former Commissioner of Police James Philbert  about securing the Guanapo Heights site. Philbert's contract was incidentally  rescinded with a month left.

4. Hired a team of mainly his friends and other associates to investigate the financial operations of a number of state companies at a cost of $11 million(i think)

5. When criticised of this move by Rowley  he proceed to ask facetiously if he should hire his enemies instead . Furthermore he mislead Parliament that PNM Senators Hinds and Al Wari received millions of dollars in state briefs.

6. Delayed the extradition order of Steve and Ish allowing them enough time to appeal and stay the extradition.

7. Played badcop in a goodcop/badcop double team with the PM against Gibbs to come up with a plan for crime.

8. Investigations into Sunways and Hart ongoing. I nearly forget that he boof police for letting Hart go when there hasn't been a charge laid.

9. Investigations into UTT ongoing.

10. Sundry other investigations ongoing. No charges laid by police.

Yuh forget the man he hire to hold the one man Commission of Enquiry into CLICO.  When told the man had an active role in CLICO's battle with Republic back in de 80's, he laid into Penny/Rowley (cyar remember who raised the issue initially on the PNM side).  When Penny eventually bring the proof he boil down like a good oil down. 

He does behave like a country bookie come to town....I feel asshole is too nice a description.
Ahhhh, there it is. His impudence belies his former profession and he is decidedly crass when statesmanship is required. And I don't think age issue. He's just a hotheaded asshole not suited to be AG at all.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: g on December 20, 2010, 09:45:55 AM
Attitude reflects leadership

While we seek to criticise the individual and rightfully so, I think what we are seeing from this bunch of politicians are a truer reflection of our society and some of the callousness of our people. We try to sell ourselves as friendly and warm and open to all persons wanting a piece of our experience. Is that really the case?

Back when our PM was making diplomatic blunders in the wake of the hurricanes that decimated our neighbours I listened on the airwaves from citizens who actually supported her statements and thought to myself then that maybe I'm being too idealistic and less realistic. It is established that countries like the US do not have friends, only interests but the tennants of diplomacy have always established a level of respect throughout whatever issues are being navigated. I looked at a country like Barbados, a nation that was crtiticised because of their opposition to CSME but we applaud their ascention to first world status. Clearly they are seeking their own developmental interests and seem to be making strides in acheiving their goals. In summary I think its a fair position that we should always look to pursue our interests but we must always seek to couch our words and actions in the realm of diplomacy.

We always want our politicians to conduct themselves with a level of dignity and class even if they may lack some of the competencies. The partnership is heralded as a government of the people selected by the people, well this is what we voted for not so?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: fishs on December 20, 2010, 10:42:53 AM

 This particular man is a real opportunist, I wish somebody could reveal how much times he was reported to the law association and then the cases were dropped. He was always bad paying poor indian people that he win cases for.
You know in most cases the attorneys are awarded the monies on behalf on their clients and they would take out their fees and then give the client the balance ?
Well this was the source of the issue

But then maybe I'm talking bout somebody else
Yuh know how they spying.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on December 20, 2010, 11:05:58 AM
I am more curious to see what the DPP will do in the Dhansook case and the alleged perversion of justice concerning Franklin Khan and Eric Williams.

Also curious to hear Mr. Ramlogan's viewpoint on that issue as well.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: mukumsplau on December 20, 2010, 11:42:14 AM
I am more curious to see what the DPP will do in the Dhansook case and the alleged perversion of justice concerning Franklin Khan and Eric Williams.

Also curious to hear Mr. Ramlogan's viewpoint on that issue as well.

i find that issue rather quiet..cant help but think that sumthin boilin in d background
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on January 02, 2011, 07:44:55 AM
I know his brother personally, he lives in NY and he is strong in the Hare Krishna fate, he even sells HK books on the streets. His attitude is very poor though. But you can tell they came from a brain family.

I think ?? Ramlogan had a brother who killed himself, but I'm not 100% sure.. they served time in the T&T military.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on January 02, 2011, 08:05:55 AM
I know his brother personally, he lives in NY and he is strong in the Hare Krishna fate, he even sells HK books on the streets. His attitude is very poor though. But you can tell they came from a brain family.

I think ?? Ramlogan had a brother who killed himself, but I'm not 100% sure.. they served time in the T&T military.

They have an older brother (George I think was his name) who died about 4 years ago.  Don't think it was suicide though....ah think he just keeled over and died suddenly.....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: 1-868 on January 13, 2011, 06:31:55 AM
WHERE'S THE GRAND PIANO?
AG calls on Manning to answer: ...It's not at the PM's residence or Diplomatic Centre
By Anna Ramdass anna.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/WHERE_S__THE__GRAND_PIANO_-113431284.html

Where the piano gone?

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan yesterday asked former prime minister Patrick Manning this question, saying that an expensive Bosendorfer piano cannot be found at the Prime Minister's official residence or Diplomatic Centre in St Ann's.

Speaking on a motion to amend the Anti-Corruption Act, Ramlogan disclosed that close to US$1 million (US$850,677 after a 33 per cent discount) was spent to purchase ten Bosendorfer pianos from Las Vegas, one of which is now missing.

Stressing on the corruption that took place under Ken Julien at the University of Trinidad and Tobago (UTT), Ramlogan said that Julien, in 2008, brokered a deal with the president of Bosendorfer to supply ten pianos.

"Bosendorfer pianos, Mr Speaker, for those of us who are accustomed to the steelpan and the dholak and the majeera and the rhythm section... the Bosendorfer piano is the Rolls Royce of pianos in the world," Ramlogan said.

One piano, he said, called "the Strauss", was listed for US$114,215 and was delivered to the official Prime Minister's residence.

"I respect the member for San Fernando East, but I didn't realise that he was so multi-talented that he needed a piano in his house," said Ramlogan, as Government Minister Jack Warner quipped, "He (Manning) can't even play in the rain!"

An Opposition MP asked, "What is wrong with a piano?" Ramlogan shot back, "Nothing is wrong with a piano, but the day you could play a good chutney or calypso on it, come back and talk to me."

Manning sat quietly in his chair during the statement and subsequent cross-talk.

Ramlogan said: "I have asked Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar to search those premises to locate this grand piano, because all we know about is a lil Bob Marley music and a lil kaiso and calypso and chutney, that's all we listen to. But this grand piano, I want to ask the member for San Fernando East, sir, if you know where that piano is in the Diplomatic Centre and your former residence, can you please assist us?"

He added, "I don't know if it's behind the chapel, is it behind the gym? Tell me, sir, I don't know where it is. If you can tell us where it is housed, it will be very very helpful to us, sir. Lord Kitch used to sing where the money gone, today we have to ask where the piano gone."

The other pianos, he said, were placed at the residence of UTT Prof Mittens, the UTT Maritime campus, Pt Lisas campus, San Fernando campus and the O'Meara campus.

Ramlogan said three were transferred to the National Academy for the Performing Arts and two still remain in packages. "We considered this to be a most shameful and disgraceful wastage of public funds," he said.

Ramlogan also disclosed that UTT, according to the interim report of an investigation into that institution, was rife with corrupt practices under Julien.

He read from the report and outlined several corrupt practices that took place—in particular, the leasing of a guest house in Aripo at $50,000 a month, which Manning's spiritual adviser, Rev Juliana Pena, had stayed in for a year.

Ramlogan said the company from which the guest house was leased—Consolidated Services Ltd—did not even have the legal title for the place.

"Technically speaking, UTT may be very well trespassing on that property and paying $50,000 to so do," he said.

He added that in addition to this, some $5 million was spent fixing the guest house and in total $14.4 million was spent on leasing and repairs.

Ramlogan also noted that professors at UTT were paid huge salaries. He said a tailor from London, who hardly spent time in Trinidad, was paid $116,912 and when his contract ended he collected a "bonus" of $240,000. He added that Julien's contract gave him all kinds of luxuries, including $37,000 for landscaping services and US$30,000 in medical expenses
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on January 13, 2011, 07:25:57 PM
so with everything else that is goin on in dis place, things that are more pressing and requires his attention, this is what the AG using his time to do?  ::)
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 13, 2011, 07:35:11 PM
Do they know where the piano really is?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on January 13, 2011, 07:40:08 PM
Do they know where the piano really is?

Patos told Anand, to ask Kamla where it is because he said when he left it was in the diplomatic centre

he also said after he moved out, furniture and equipment like the CCTV cameras were moved out from the residence

never a dull moment
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: just cool on January 13, 2011, 08:18:06 PM
so with everything else that is goin on in dis place, things that are more pressing and requires his attention, this is what the AG using his time to do?  ::)
These ppl really making it easy for ppl like jahgol and CO tuh fan the flames yes. why is it that they really not too concerned wid the issues @ hand? is only one setta petty squabbles and nit pickingoin they on. ::)

BTW, ah saw patos on CTNT news and he handled the ting quite gracefully. he said ramlogan don't even know what a grand piano looked like, so he had no idea what he was lookin for :devil: BC he's never seen a bosendorf.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 13, 2011, 08:56:40 PM
so with everything else that is goin on in dis place, things that are more pressing and requires his attention, this is what the AG using his time to do?  ::)

To be honest I does be on dey case but I doh have a problem with this... malfeasance in public office to me is a serious charge.  I actually agreee with them that spending $1 million US ($600 million TT) on pianos is extremely wasteful.

What I DO have a problem with though is the level of the discourse in Parliament.  I know that 'fatigue', picong and throwing talk is part ah we culture, but I really don't find it necessary in parliament.  To me it does nothing to move the issues forward and only threatens to undermine decorum... and this applies to both sides.  I don't think Anand tweaking Manning about him being multi-talented, and if it behind de chapel and this talk necessary.  I don't find Jack comment about Manning cyah even play in the rain necessary, nor Manning's response that Anand wouldn't know a piano if he saw one talk necessary.

That kinda pettiness to me eh belong in Parliament... but what do I know?  Another thing... all this talk about corruption under Ken Julien watch... then why yuh do just charge him??  You wasting down a man's reputation when yuh have power to charge him if you really believe he engaged in corruption involving public funds?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jay10 on January 13, 2011, 09:28:08 PM
so with everything else that is goin on in dis place, things that are more pressing and requires his attention, this is what the AG using his time to do?  ::)

To be honest I does be on dey case but I doh have a problem with this... malfeasance in public office to me is a serious charge.  I actually agreee with them that spending $1 million US ($600 million TT) on pianos is extremely wasteful.

What I DO have a problem with though is the level of the discourse in Parliament.  I know that 'fatigue', picong and throwing talk is part ah we culture, but I really don't find it necessary in parliament.  To me it does nothing to move the issues forward and only threatens to undermine decorum... and this applies to both sides.  I don't think Anand tweaking Manning about him being multi-talented, and if it behind de chapel and this talk necessary.  I don't find Jack comment about Manning cyah even play in the rain necessary, nor Manning's response that Anand wouldn't know a piano if he saw one talk necessary.

That kinda pettiness to me eh belong in Parliament... but what do I know?  Another thing... all this talk about corruption under Ken Julien watch... then why yuh do just charge him??  You wasting down a man's reputation when yuh have power to charge him if you really believe he engaged in corruption involving public funds?

More like 6 mil TT...and dats how dey always talk...is only kicks men in dey...gov't, opposition, everybody on kicks....cuz every one of dem in there business fix
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on January 13, 2011, 09:28:21 PM
so with everything else that is goin on in dis place, things that are more pressing and requires his attention, this is what the AG using his time to do?  ::)
These ppl really making it easy for ppl like jahgol and CO tuh fan the flames yes. why is it that they really not too concerned wid the issues @ hand? is only one setta petty squabbles and nit pickingoin they on. ::)

BTW, ah saw patos on CTNT news and he handled the ting quite gracefully. he said ramlogan don't even know what a grand piano looked like, so he had no idea what he was lookin for :devil: BC he's never seen a bosendorf.
http://www.youtube.com/v/f8eMue_t3Wo
This is such a non issue it eh funny. Ramlogan try to make Manning look bad, not that he needed help and Manning swing back for him  same speed. Manning coulda leave out the midnight robber talk and just focus on addressing the point.

A million dollars for piano really not necessary. But Ramlogan trying to make it look like Manning move with the piano is too ridiculous for comprehension. I rate this guy as a shitsnake anyway.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: elan on January 13, 2011, 09:35:10 PM
They only "talking for curry". This PP/COP/UNC is ah wats eah time. Ah big waste ah time. They eh know they arse from they elbow. Absolutely useless.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 13, 2011, 09:36:07 PM
I agree with the much leanered legal minds on the forum that the approach to persuing the issues of wastage and fraud of the previous gov't is defeating the purpose. If you have evidence of wrongdoing by every member of the last gov't, just bring it on, and stop making a pappyshow of the parliamentary process. If the politicians throwing picong at one another, what do they expect from the public? No respect. Then they deserve no respect.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on January 13, 2011, 09:59:20 PM
When I think about my government a prase comes to mind:  quis custodiet ipsos custodes
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 13, 2011, 10:00:56 PM
When I think about my government a prase comes to mind:  quis custodiet ipsos custodes

translate, sil vous plait(por favor)!
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on January 13, 2011, 10:08:47 PM
This is a phrase from the Roman poet Juvenal, which is literally translated as "Who will guard the guards themselves?" It is also sometimes rendered as "Who watches the watchmen

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 13, 2011, 10:08:58 PM
More like 6 mil TT...and dats how dey always talk...is only kicks men in dey...gov't, opposition, everybody on kicks....cuz every one of dem in there business fix

Yeah you right, $6 million... typing and mind on something else.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on January 13, 2011, 10:10:08 PM
All this talk about a missing grand piano that may well not be missing afterall, what about the Prado that was crashed by ANil Roberts?  And who gave him permission to be driving that?

Word is that he had no permission, that makes it???????
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 13, 2011, 10:15:46 PM
I agree with the much leanered legal minds on the forum that the approach to persuing the issues of wastage and fraud of the previous gov't is defeating the purpose. If you have evidence of wrongdoing by every member of the last gov't, just bring it on, and stop making a pappyshow of the parliamentary process. If the politicians throwing picong at one another, what do they expect from the public? No respect. Then they deserve no respect.

Deeks dai'z de damn thing self... we's ah setta jokers and it starts at the top.  Little thing like government Minister showing up in a public capacity dressed like he going tuh party.  I mean nobody expecting three-piece suit, but there are climate appropriate fabrics yuh could wear when in public in yuh Ministerial capacity.  And then this thing with Anand getting in ah accident while using a government vehicle for private purposes... and Kamla fack it up even more by telling everybody to keep quiet about it. I see ah man here bawl he find that is "little thing"... a sitting Prime Minister suppresses an incident where again there appears to be malfeasance, and possibly a breach of ethics... and man saying dai'z small thing.  If we doh expect better of them how we expect them to ever expect better of themselves... or better yet, how we expect things to ever improve??

Madness. 


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All this talk about a missing grand piano that may well not be missing afterall, what about the Prado that was crashed by ANil Roberts?  And who gave him permission to be driving that?

Word is that he had no permission, that makes it???????

Look I now talking about that.  It mention in de "Minister of Sport" thread elsewhere.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 13, 2011, 10:59:20 PM
I wonder if someone had been seriously injured, would they have hushed it up. The coalition say they coming straight with the people, no mamaguy. The only thing they have going for them is that they new at governing. And they making lots of faux pas. I can understand that. I think the bill to prevent or severely limit corruption, white collar crime is a good first step. But then the parliament end up in rum-shop talk. How can I really think they seriously.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on January 13, 2011, 11:09:16 PM
I wonder if someone had been seriously injured, would they have hushed it up. The coalition say they coming straight with the people, no mamaguy. The only thing they have going for them is that they new at governing. And they making lots of faux pas. I can understand that. I think the bill to prevent or severely limit corruption, white collar crime is a good first step. But then the parliament end up in rum-shop talk. How can I really think they seriously.

These same people did not want the PNM to pass this same bill., it is not like they have come up with anything new.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: just cool on January 14, 2011, 12:39:03 AM
so with everything else that is goin on in dis place, things that are more pressing and requires his attention, this is what the AG using his time to do?  ::)
These ppl really making it easy for ppl like jahgol and CO tuh fan the flames yes. why is it that they really not too concerned wid the issues @ hand? is only one setta petty squabbles and nit pickingoin they on. ::)

BTW, ah saw patos on CTNT news and he handled the ting quite gracefully. he said ramlogan don't even know what a grand piano looked like, so he had no idea what he was lookin for :devil: BC he's never seen a bosendorf.
http://www.youtube.com/v/f8eMue_t3Wo
This is such a non issue it eh funny. Ramlogan try to make Manning look bad, not that he needed help and Manning swing back for him  same speed. Manning coulda leave out the midnight robber talk and just focus on addressing the point.

A million dollars for piano really not necessary. But Ramlogan trying to make it look like Manning move with the piano is too ridiculous for comprehension. I rate this guy as a shitsnake anyway.

Ah might be owing you and some other members an apology bro ?  :thinking: these ppl look like they trying ah ting and don't necessarily have ah clue.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: sammy on January 14, 2011, 04:28:43 AM
ASK KAMLA
Manning says he does not have the grand piano; throws question back at AG:

By Carolyn Kissoon South Bureau
Story Created: Jan 13, 2011 at 11:47 PM ECT
Story Updated: Jan 13, 2011 at 11:47 PM ECT

Former prime minister, Patrick Manning, yesterday distanced himself from the disappearance of the Bosendorfer piano from the Prime Minister's Residence and Diplomatic Centre in St Ann's.
Manning said he didn't have the piano but would not be surprised if a search warrant was executed at his San Fernando home in search of it.
Manning called a press conference at his Fernando East constituency office, Coffee Street, yesterday to respond to Attorney General Anand Ramlogan's claims that the piano could not be found and Manning might know where to find it.

"It appears to me that the question the Attorney General put to the member for San Fernando East yesterday would have been more appropriately put to the member for Siparia," he said. Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar is the MP for Siparia.
Ramlogan said last night: "We will certainly chase up this lead and we're very grateful for his assistance but I wish to know why was the grand piano purchased for the PM's residence at such an exorbitant cost.
"Is it that he and Mrs Manning were learning to play the piano? What was the intention and for whose use?"
Ramlogan told Parliament on Wednesday that US$850,677 was spent to purchase ten Bosendorfer pianos from Las Vegas, USA, and one was now missing.
Manning said at the press conference that the grand piano was stored on the eastern side of the stage at the Diplomatic Centre when he moved out after losing the last year's general election, adding: "I imagine the Attorney General couldn't recognise it because he thought it looked like a harmonium."
A harmonium is a reed organ with hand pump bellows used in Trinidad by Indian musicians in mainly classical singing and religious ceremonies such as yagnas.


Manning said, "The grand piano was there for sometime after I left. What I do know is that when the new prime minister and her team came in, before she moved in, a lot of the equipment was moved out of that residence, including furniture. I have no idea where that furniture was sent. I rather suspect that if you go to a house on lower Phillipine, you might find some of it."
The former PM added: "Talking in the context of the dholak and the dhantal, the steelpan and so on, local instruments, it is clear to me and to us that the Attorney General's view of culture is a very restricted view. Our view is much wider than that and it includes instruments which, in addition to those that he mentioned, also incudes a wider range of instruments including the grand piano."

Manning said the People's National Movement's vision for the Diplomatic Centre at St Ann's was one in which there would have been recitals using, and exposing, some of the best talents in Trinidad and Tobago. "To the local and international communities a grand piano would have been an essential instrument and that is why the grand piano was placed there," he explained.
Manning said it would be no surprise to him if a warrant was issued to search his premises for the piano, which is valued at US$114,215. "Well let me make it clear from now on, there is no grand piano at my residence. I left the grand piano at the Diplomatic Centre where it properly belonged. And while that was our concept, it appears to me that the concept of the current administration, is to use it for party meetings and improperly so," he said.

And he added that it was impossible for him to leave the premises with the grand piano, as the Prime Minister's Residence was equipped with an efficient security system.

He claimed, however, that several cameras were removed since his departure. "I do know that they (the new occupants) have interfered with the security system, because there is a system where you can monitor the entire facility from one central location. I understand that they felt that they had no need for such monitoring and that they had no need for the cameras and much of that have been removed. The system as we left it at the residence no longer exists," he said.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/ASK_KAMLA-113541389.html

dats right manning.......dat dotish coolie dunno what a piano looks like.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on January 14, 2011, 05:07:51 AM
JC don't bother with that apology thing just enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on January 14, 2011, 06:02:16 AM
Oh lawwdd Patos hit them for six!!  These misfits making so easy for Patos to look good....Patos basically say the say the same thing ah say earlier in the thread....Anand is a country bookie.

But ah have to disagree with Patos though on believing in the Midnight Robber.  I do believe in them.  The ones at Carnival time and the ones that does break een yuh house at the Midnight to 4 am hour..... ;D

Den he say Kamla look like one..... :rotfl: :rotfl:  Patos ah agree with yuh, dat funeral outfit was the worse one ah see she in since she take office....

But all yuh eh get the clip where he say he hear they planning to rename the number plate on the Prime Minister's vehicle from "PM 1" to "Vomit 1"??   :o :o  When ah hear dat ah say laaawwdd look dey make Patos come down in the mud to wrestle with them.... :rotfl: :rotfl:

I loving it, every day is plenty entertainment from these misfits....steups!!
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Dutty on January 14, 2011, 07:45:09 AM
dats right manning.......dat dotish coolie dunno what a piano looks like.

so wait,,, when anand was trowin ah setta sarcasm for patrick over the piano  you didnt bodder read beetween de lines....he get back de same level of biting sarcasm and  yuh readin hard into it?

as much as I enjoy the back and forth verbal jousting..these folks gettin on like school gyirls
The crime & unemployment still at staggering levels and dem arguing bout who teef piano and who crash prado
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: elan on January 14, 2011, 09:40:34 AM
ASK KAMLA
Manning says he does not have the grand piano; throws question back at AG:


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/ASK_KAMLA-113541389.html

dats right manning.......dat dotish coolie dunno what a piano looks like.

How coolie reach in that  ???  Is talk for talk  ???
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 14, 2011, 10:37:55 AM
dats right manning.......dat dotish coolie dunno what a piano looks like.

Doh be so hard on yuhself breds...


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On another note, that tailor talk from Manning is good talk.  I remember reading about that fella  (http://www.savilerowtailor.com/media.html) a couple years ago, Savile Row tailors  are considered the best in the world... and he is supposedly among the very best there.  If is he they get then dat salary is justified because he does make that kinda money easy.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on January 14, 2011, 11:05:36 AM
dats right manning.......dat dotish coolie dunno what a piano looks like.

so wait,,, when anand was trowin ah setta sarcasm for patrick over the piano  you didnt bodder read beetween de lines....he get back de same level of biting sarcasm and  yuh readin hard into it?

as much as I enjoy the back and forth verbal jousting..these folks gettin on like school gyirls
The crime & unemployment still at staggering levels and dem arguing bout who teef piano and who crash prado

this is a classic LOL monemt.  Yet ytou see racism in it, just shows a little about you.  Sad.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 14, 2011, 11:24:30 AM
I am all for free speech, but could we leave out the pejorative words and keep it kind ah civil.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on January 14, 2011, 01:12:09 PM
JC don't bother with that apology thing just enjoy the ride.

Buckle up tight and enjoy d ride.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on January 14, 2011, 06:39:56 PM
dats right manning.......dat dotish coolie dunno what a piano looks like.

so wait,,, when anand was trowin ah setta sarcasm for patrick over the piano  you didnt bodder read beetween de lines....he get back de same level of biting sarcasm and  yuh readin hard into it?

as much as I enjoy the back and forth verbal jousting..these folks gettin on like school gyirls
The crime & unemployment still at staggering levels and dem arguing bout who teef piano and who crash prado

sammy on shit.

i find anand fass and outta place.so because i am a trini, i only suppose to know about soca, chutney, pan and kaiso??  ::)
Title: PIANO FOUND!
Post by: truetrini on January 14, 2011, 10:49:00 PM
LIke Manning was on point!  Like dat dumb @#$%^# eh know what ah piano look like? Looks like dis is de Peoples Partnershit.

PIANO FOUND!
...at the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann's
By Anna Ramdass anna.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Jan 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM ECT

(Story Updated: Jan 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM ECT )

The grand piano has been found —in the very place it was alleged to have been missing from.

National Security adviser to the Prime Minister, Gary Griffith, told the Express by phone yesterday that the piano was found after checks of the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann's.

"It (the piano) seemed to be deliberately tucked and hidden away. It was covered with layers of cloth and appears to have never been used," Griffith told the Express.

Asked specifically where the piano was found, Griffith said it was located at the back of the stage area inside the Diplomatic Centre. Griffith said because of the way the piano was "hidden", no one noticed it was there. He said, however, that the issue is not about the piano itself but that taxpayers' money was wasted under the PNM to purchase these pianos.

On Wednesday, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, at the first sitting of the Parliament for the year, said that ten pianos were purchased by the University of Trinidad and Tobago (UTT) from Bosendorfer, Las Vegas, USA, to the tune of US$850,677, one of which was missing. He called on former prime minister Patrick Manning to help with locating the piano, which he said had gone missing from the Diplomatic Centre.

"I have asked Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar to search those premises to locate this grand piano, because all we know about is a lil Bob Marley music and a lil kaiso and calypso and chutney, that's all we listen to. But this grand piano, I want to ask the member for San Fernando East, Sir, if you know where that piano is in the Diplomatic Centre and your former residence, can you please assist us?" Ramlogan had said.

He added, "I don't know if it's behind the chapel, is it behind the gym? Tell me sir, I don't know where it is. If you can tell us where it is housed, it will be very very helpful to us sir. Lord Kitch used to sing where the money gone, today we have to ask where the piano gone."

At a press conference the following day, Manning said he had left the piano at the Diplomatic Centre, adding that it was stored on the eastern side of the stage. The piano was indeed found on the stage inside the Diplomatic Centre.

Ramlogan, in a release yesterday, thanked Manning for his response. However, he went further to condemn Manning for the misuse and abuse of public funds under his tenure.

"The University of Trinidad and Tobago is meant to provide tertiary education for our young adults and it is therefore strange that such funds were secretly diverted to purchase ten grand pianos. This is in violation of the established practice and procedures that govern and regulates the expenditure of public funds," Ramlogan said.

He said Manning should have followed correct procedure and purchased the piano from the budget of the Ministry of Arts and Culture or the office of the Prime Minister.

"The fact that ten pianos were purchased without any form of public disclosure must be condemned. It strikes at the heart of our democracy, transparent government and the established regulation of public expenditure," Ramlogan said.

"Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar could hardly be criticised for her failure to locate something that she did not even know existed in the first place. The real issue at hand is why Mr Manning acquired these pianos using UTT's funds as opposed to funds from a government ministry."

Ramlogan also took issue with Manning's statement that he (Ramlogan) may not have recognised the piano because he might have mistaken it for a harmonium.

"The harmonium is the Indian equivalent to the piano ... Mr Manning's contempt for the harmonium is consistent with the contempt and arrogance he displayed towards the Indo-Trinidadian community during his tenure," he said. (See Page 7)

The piano was again raised in the Parliament yesterday.

Opposition MP Colm Imbert asked Government Minister Dr Roodal Moonilal whether the piano was found in the same place it was left.

Moonilal replied: "The issue is expenditure policy and priority, that is the issue...whether we find the piano or not is relevant...the issue is not where it is, the issue is why this country has to spend $5 million plus to buy pianos when people can't get bed in the hospital, why people crying for a box drain."

Contacted last evening for comment on the discovery of the piano, Manning said, "No comment, I would like to see how the media treats with this issue."

However, speaking later in the sitting, Imbert said he was "reliably informed" that the piano had been found exactly where Manning said it was left.

"While the Attorney General was carrying on...the piano was right there on the compound of the Diplomatic Centre, right where it was when the Member for San Fernando East departed from that residence. Yes, it is incredible," he added.

He said Government had consumed national media attention for two days and it spread regionally and internationally, while "is just a set of pappy show". He told Government that although they want to score points, they need to get their facts straight before wasting the time of Members of Parliament and citizens.

—Reporting by Julien Neaves

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Babalawo on January 14, 2011, 10:59:01 PM
OMG 3 flicking days covering a piano and people still getting shot by guns daily?????  What has this government turned into? AH FLICKING PIANO???????? GO AND SOLVE CRIME
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: truetrini on January 14, 2011, 11:05:12 PM
The AG must be feeling like an asshole. And if he isn't, I suggest he should. He should also apologize to the memories of Lionel Belasco, George Cabral, Winnifred Atwell, Boscoe Holder and all other Trinidad and Tobago musicians who played calypso on a piano. These pioneers used this instrument to take our music to the world. This cultural illiterate who has a law degree should seek to get his job done.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: mukumsplau on January 15, 2011, 05:18:13 AM
i relly aint know what to say nuh...i relly aint know what tuh say..

and lol @ "deliberately tucked away"....like manning was tuh pass back for it? lol
Title: Re: PIANO FOUND!
Post by: Brownsugar on January 15, 2011, 05:26:08 AM

"I have asked Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar to search those premises to locate this grand piano, because all we know about is a lil Bob Marley music and a lil kaiso and calypso and chutney, that's all we listen to. But this grand piano, I want to ask the member for San Fernando East, Sir, if you know where that piano is in the Diplomatic Centre and your former residence, can you please assist us?" Ramlogan had said.

This was the exact statement Anand made??  Nah the Express misquote him.....ah going and check Hansard.  Dat cyar be what he say.  If this statement is true, Anand is an embarrassment to all country bookies.......ah cyar decide if to  :rotfl:  or   :'(.....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: sammy on January 15, 2011, 08:27:03 AM
i relly aint know what to say nuh...i relly aint know what tuh say..

and lol @ "deliberately tucked away"....like manning was tuh pass back for it? lol
:rotfl:

manning comming back.  All the mess the govt doing and rowley cant capitalize, look how manning score 10 points easy easy.

I wonder what panday saying?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on January 15, 2011, 08:38:39 AM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



 :'(  :'(

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: signal on January 15, 2011, 09:22:03 AM
so watch nah..he really dont know what it look like or wha?..lol ....is real tears.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 15, 2011, 11:03:32 AM
i relly aint know what to say nuh...i relly aint know what tuh say..

and lol @ "deliberately tucked away"....like manning was tuh pass back for it? lol
:rotfl:

manning comming back.  All the mess the govt doing and rowley cant capitalize, look how manning score 10 points easy easy.

I wonder what panday saying?


Patos coming back? Look, leave him right dey. We had enough of him. And who say Rowley go be heading PNM in the next election. If Patos come, I hope PNM lose!!
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: sammy on January 15, 2011, 11:16:37 AM
i relly aint know what to say nuh...i relly aint know what tuh say..

and lol @ "deliberately tucked away"....like manning was tuh pass back for it? lol
:rotfl:

manning comming back.  All the mess the govt doing and rowley cant capitalize, look how manning score 10 points easy easy.

I wonder what panday saying?


Patos coming back? Look, leave him right dey. We had enough of him. And who say Rowley go be heading PNM in the next election. If Patos come, I hope PNM lose!!

so who shaping up to lead them ?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Peong on January 15, 2011, 11:20:35 AM
These ppl feel dey in gov't to ketch kicks?
They owe us an apology for makin this into an issue in the first place, and now that it wasn't missing to begin with.
Fok dem, I real disgusted.

Instead of looking to accuse the last gov't of doing shit, try and figure out how to fix some of the problems nah.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on January 15, 2011, 11:24:11 AM
Sammy, it appears that the Government you so blindly support needs to hire some of Patos' Israeli operatives to help find lost items?  What a comedy this PP is.

Diversion after diversion while no one is attending to matters of state.

Reminds me of an old Sparrow tune   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZomalcH7nQ
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 15, 2011, 11:49:53 AM
I dunno why allyuh only nitpicking... gih de people and dem time.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on January 15, 2011, 11:59:20 AM
All kicks aside I think the sooner this piano issue ends the better for the country. Manning respond already and Ramlogan looking like an ass. The whole country looking real stupid for taking up this non-issue.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: truetrini on January 15, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
WHo is de head of household again?  He should be immediately fired, yuh mean to tell me dat dey never clean dat part ah de complex in 8 months?  nastiness abounds!
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on January 15, 2011, 04:18:12 PM
Dis just amazing. Seriously. So if a Piano missing.....and it have some big object in a corner covered down....nobody would go and check to see what it was?


Next ting:

UTT has a performing arts faculty (part of the whole rationale behind NAPA etc.) If pianos are needed for the diplomatic centre, for NAPA, for UTT...then...i could see the rationale behind UTT buying all in bulk, allowing for a bulk discount, and distributing them to all that would need it. De concern should be the payment, ie if UTT has to shoulder that burden alone of if they would be reimbursed.

Deliberately tucked away. Steups.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on January 15, 2011, 09:13:34 PM
Dis just amazing. Seriously. So if a Piano missing.....and it have some big object in a corner covered down....nobody would go and check to see what it was?


Next ting:

UTT has a performing arts faculty (part of the whole rationale behind NAPA etc.) If pianos are needed for the diplomatic centre, for NAPA, for UTT...then...i could see the rationale behind UTT buying all in bulk, allowing for a bulk discount, and distributing them to all that would need it. De concern should be the payment, ie if UTT has to shoulder that burden alone of if they would be reimbursed.

Deliberately tucked away. Steups.


[/quote


Bulk buyin a concept these jokers not familiar wit u c d cost of dem laptop.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: rotatopoti3 on January 15, 2011, 11:46:30 PM
iz musical politics goin on...

anand playing piano and rowley playing with Orange sky....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on January 16, 2011, 06:37:15 AM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/commentaries/AG_who_can_t_get_facts_right-113828624.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/commentaries/AG_who_can_t_get_facts_right-113828624.html)


AG who can't get facts right

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan came to office with an admirable track record as an advocate in the public interest, and in defence of otherwise helpless people oppressed or fearing oppression by public authorities. Before courts at different levels, it was invariably accepted that he got his facts right, or at least more right than those of his legal adversaries.

Picked as Attorney General by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, Mr Ramlogan's performance becomes subject to critical evaluation in the court of public opinion. It's in this politically decisive forum that he appears to be steadily drawing down his capital of credibility arduously built up over years of practice. Over fewer than eight months, indeed, Mr Ramlogan has been gaining a reputation as the Attorney General who cannot shoot straight. And, indeed, one of one who shoots from the hips.

Embarrassing both himself and Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar, the Attorney General made headlines with a scandalous charge ("Where the piano gone?") that a grand piano had gone missing from the Prime Minister's residence. He pointedly suggested that former prime minister Patrick Manning was responsible for the disappearance of the expensive musical instrument.

In Parliament, he directly taunted the former prime minister with dark insinuations. Mr Manning might know, or should know, the whereabouts of a fairly substantial and conspicuous item of furniture that had somehow, he openly suggested, been spirited away from the La Fantaisie Road residence. Clearly pointing a finger at Mr Manning, he said in the House, and thus under shelter of parliamentary privilege: "Tell me, Sir. I don't know where it is. I don't know if it's behind the chapel. Is it behind the gym? If you can tell us where it is housed, it will be very, very helpful to us, Sir. ...We have to ask: where the piano gone?"
Mr Ramlogan's missing grand piano turned out not to be the subject of any grand theft. It showed up, miraculously, two days later, right inside the Prime Minister's residence, just where it had remained unnoticed since the change of occupancy. The most conspicuous new development is the egg on the face of Mr Ramlogan, disfiguring his former image of reliability and trustworthiness. Could he not have commissioned a search of the residence by Captain Gary Griffith, the Prime Minister's national security adviser, before going public with unfounded finger-pointing?

By now, the public must wonder how many blunders, bungles and false allegations Mr Ramlogan is allowed before terminally losing the trust of Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar. His threat to re-open the Landate files against Opposition Leader Keith Rowley remains empty. His accusation that PNM senators had received government legal briefs was confidently denied by those he had named as beneficiaries.
Now this—the missing grand piano that was never really missing —confirms that Mr Ramlogan is content to make bacchanal when he cannot make policy, or sense.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: 1-868 on January 16, 2011, 06:53:34 AM
Thank you Mr Impulse, I could not have said it better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkwlB8jeEmA
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 16, 2011, 10:48:25 AM
Now this—the missing grand piano that was never really missing —confirms that Mr Ramlogan is content to make bacchanal when he cannot make policy, or sense.

A microcosm of governance under this PP coalition the past 8 months.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on January 16, 2011, 12:51:07 PM
An ambulance chaser is d AG. What all yuh expect.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on January 17, 2011, 06:07:01 AM
Just when we thought it safe to go back in the water.....

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/I_m_not_sorry-113855864.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/I_m_not_sorry-113855864.html)

I'm not sorry
In face of criticism Attorney General defiant: State to probe UTT for purchase of 10 grand pianos
By Stories by Anna Ramdass anna.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com

No apology.

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan said yesterday he is not embarrassed nor will he apologise for the controversy surrounding the grand piano which he said was missing, but later found at the Diplomatic Centre, St Ann's.

In fact, Ramlogan, told the Express in an interview at Rienzi Complex, Couva, yesterday he intends to examine the matter to determine whether civil action can be taken against the persons who purchased the ten pianos at a cost of US$850,677.

Last Wednesday at the Parliament sitting, Ramlogan disclosed some of the findings of an interim report coming out of a probe of the University of Trinidad and Tobago (UTT).

The report had stated that ten pianos were purchased from Bosendorfer, Las Vegas, USA, by UTT head Ken Julien, one of which was delivered to the Diplomatic Centre, the official residence of the Prime Minister, during the tenure of former prime minister Patrick Manning.

Three of the pianos were assigned to the National Academy for the Performing Arts, while the others were distributed to other UTT campuses across the country.

Ramlogan, in exposing the sqaundermania at UTT, said the piano was missing and asked Manning to assist in its location. Manning responded, saying he left the grand piano at the Diplomatic Centre and a day later after check was done, the piano was found in the same area where Manning said he had left it.

In the face of criticism, Ramlogan insisted that had he not raised the issue in Parliament, the public would never have known millions of dollars were spent to buy pianos.

"Close to US$1 million was spent to purchase pianos without any consultation or disclosure. I'm embarrassed because that ought not to have happened in a functioning democratic society... that happens in a dictatorship, when that kind of money is spent without anyone being aware of it," said Ramlogan.

"Prior to my disclosure in the Parliament, not a single citizen in this country knew that Mr Manning and Mr Julien spent millions to purchase pianos. I ask the question, is it that UTT could have been used to purchase his (Manning) private jet and nobody would have known?" he asked.

Ramlogan vowed the public will get its justice for the billions wasted under the former administration.

"We intend to take civil and/or criminal action when the investigations are fully completed. The discovery of these pianos is a direct result of the probes that are being conducted. In so far as there was malfeasance, misconduct, we intend to take civil action against those responsible for betraying the people and breaking their fiduciary duties to the organisation they served," said Ramlogan.

"The purchase of these grand pianos by UTT and, in particular, one for the Prime Minister's residence, is a matter that may very well warrant a civil action. We are still trying to unearth the facts to see where the paper trail leads and who gave the instructions for the pianos to be purchased," said Ramlogan.

As Ramlogan stands firm that he will not apologise and go after those who wasted public funds, his colleagues have rallied around him in support.

Said Sport Minister Anil Roberts, "There is nothing to apologise for. It was a total wastage of taxpayers' money to buy those pianos." He added, "I think Patrick Manning ought to apologise to Anand Ramlogan and all our citizens of East Indian origin for the comments he made.

"He (Manning) has many apologies to make. He allowed Calder Hart to disappear, he allowed Ken Julien to run rampant at UTT, he must apologise to this country for Uthara Rao, who wasted taxpayers' money at EMBD."

Said Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh, "What the AG has done is expose the abuse of funds by UTT spending money to buy pianos.

"We have said that UTT has been a very corrupt organisation. This is just another example—the misuse of State funds. Mr Manning and the PNM (People's National Movement) administration need to apologise and he needs to say what was UTT doing under his watch that there is nearly two to three billion misappropriated."

Minister of Food Production Vasant Bharath said, "Everything under the PNM is a scandalous waste of taxpayers' money. It's a litany of woes we've been confronted with."

He said the money spent on the pianos was to no benefit to the people of this country.

"I believe, with everything, there should always be oversight whenever we buy things using taxpayers' money," said Health Minister Therese Baptiste-Cornelis.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on January 17, 2011, 06:30:37 AM
Lets see.


850000 x 6.5 = $5525000TT

10 Pianos cost  $5,525,000 TT.

Therefore 1 Piano cost approximately $552,500TT.


Just randomly googling " Average cost of Bosendorfer Piano  (http://www.google.tt/#hl=en&source=hp&biw=1047&bih=443&q=average+cost+of+Bosendorfer+piano&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&fp=c9343cb56047753f)" threw up some results...like..... this  (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100622143232AAczyGG)

Quote
A new bosendorfer grand can cost anywhere from about $60,000 to $180,000 depending on the model. A new bosendorfer upright can cost about $25,000 to $45,000.

    * 7 months ago

Conversion might make it somewhere like $TT 390000 to $TT 1,170,000.





Compared to the millions or billions that they claim was squandered by UDECOTT...that on the campaign trail made it seem like all that needed to happen was for the DPP to get the files and people getting charged and locked up.

He fighting this down?


Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: signal on January 17, 2011, 08:11:29 AM
All of this could have been avoided if kamla didnt play cyat and mouse to go in manning palace...but the way she acted dumb and take chain up from jack saying she doh want to go in mannings palace, only to go in months after like a clown, she did not receive a proper inventory of items at the palace...steups....now that the missing piano is found, i wonder where it will  be housed, seeing that anand have a problem with it being at the residence in the first place.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 17, 2011, 12:35:12 PM
After reading all of this I can only conclude that Trinidad full ah dotish people yes.  Mark my words... not one ass will come of this so-called probe.  And the public and media only swallowing de chain up.  Their has been no "malfeasance or misconduct" and no misappropriation of public funds.  Granted I don't have full details, but if is one thing I have learned from observing politicians in Trinidad, they never play they cards close to their vest.  Everything is done in a grandiose, grandstanding way.  So whatever 'evidence' they boasting of to the public you know they only have a fraction of that in reality.. not more.

All that said, public funds were used to purchase public assets.  All the pianos were accounted for, and all were earmarked for public use... none were the private possessions of any PNM official.  If they want to criticize whether it was a smart use of public funds then that is one matter... but to be talking this setta "criminal and civil" charges talk, that is just a convenient cover for their freshly-exposed bare asses.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 17, 2011, 05:02:01 PM
If they want to criticize whether it was a smart use of public funds then that is one matter... but to be talking this setta "criminal and civil" charges talk, that is just a convenient cover for their freshly-exposed bare asses.

I agree with you here. But I have/had serious issues with Patos and company judgement when it come to acquiring things for TT. We are not them mid-east countries who have oil up they ying-yang. I must be ignorant as to the type of musical instruments, but I think Yamaha would have done just fine,  and they cheaper.  I want to give the gov't the benefit of doubt. But Anand, Anil take over from jack in the rhetoric. You just have to shake your head.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on January 17, 2011, 05:46:07 PM
If they want to criticize whether it was a smart use of public funds then that is one matter... but to be talking this setta "criminal and civil" charges talk, that is just a convenient cover for their freshly-exposed bare asses.

I agree with you here. But I have/had serious issues with Patos and company judgement when it come to acquiring things for TT. We are not them mid-east countries who have oil up they ying-yang. I must be ignorant as to the type of musical instruments, but I think Yamaha would have done just fine,  and they cheaper.  I want to give the gov't the benefit of doubt. But Anand, Anil take over from jack in the rhetoric. You just have to shake your head.

lol Yahama...too funny.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on January 17, 2011, 10:13:20 PM
Rowley: Class and Ramlogan don’t mix
Published: Tue, 2011-01-18 21:08
Gail Alexander
 
 
Dr Keith Rowley Class and Anand Ramlogan (Attorney General) don’t mix. So said Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley yesterday as he denounced statements made by the AG on the issue of the “missing” piano which was recently found at the Diplomatic Centre, St Ann’s. Rowley spoke to reporters on the issue yesterday following a walkabout in Sangre Grande.  He later addressed a public meeting at the Sangre Grande Civic Centre.

The People’s National Movement (PNM) political leader told reporters Ramlogan “doesn’t have the class to apologise” on the piano issue. He was referring to the AG’s statement in Parliament last week that the piano had gone missing from the Diplomatic Centre. The piano was subsequently found at that same location. However, last weekend Ramlogan maintained he was not going to apologise about the situation. Rowley said Ramlogan’s stance was worrisome because he was no ordinary citizen.

“This is the Attorney General, the person who is supposed to protect each of us, who swore an oath of office to treat fairly with everyone without fear, or malice or ill-will, yet he stands up in Parliament and virtually accuses a former prime minister of stealing a piano and when he is exposed on the issue, he says he doesn’t care. “But we care—we don’t want that kind of trash as AG. We have too many intelligent people in T&T.” Rowley, who said the country wanted representatives of class, added: “But the AG has demonstrated time and time again that class and Anand Ramlogan don’t go together.”

Rowley also responded to an allegation made by People’s Partnership MP Anil Roberts in Parliament last Friday. Roberts, Minister of Sport and Youth Affairs, alleged that while Rowley was Planning Minister in 2003, he was involved in sanctioning planning approval for a building in west Trinidad owned by Joseph Rahael (son of former PNM MP John Rahael). Rowley said: “There is absolutely no truth to that and since the matter was raised in Parliament, I will deal with it in Parliament also.” Rowley said Roberts and other PP ministers represented a type of development in which they seemed to feel they had to “villify people, buss mark and expose wrong-doings.”

Rowley said the PNM was happy things were happening in full view so the public could see for themselves. The Opposition Leader said if that was how ministers saw their duty, it would only be a matter of time before they became a general nuisance to the population. He said he thought Roberts already had reached that stage, adding that “as a minister his conduct is quite reprehensible and scandalous.” During the walkabout, Sangre Grande residents told Rowley about their issues and community problems.

He said several people complained to him about being unfairly treated and being victimised on their jobs.
He said the PNM did not subscribe to that sort of situation and there had to be fairness and a proper policy which was not based on victimisation of people for perceived political support of a party.  He said he would also raise such matters in Parliament. The PNM leader was asked about reports of in-fighting in the party in the lead-up to internal elections. He said divergence of views was to be expected in such situations as people discussed support for persons or their preferences.

He added that the internal elections would take place on March 20, “and on March 21 all those developments will be behind us and we will see a coming together of the PNM in a way that will make us all proud.” During the walkabout, Rowley was greeted warmly by Sangre Grande residents in Duranta Gardens, many of whom related community problems to him. He also reconnected with a Tobago-born woman whose brother he had attended school with. The woman is running a home for children in the district.

One resident, who heads the Duranta Community Association, said he hoped Rowley’s visit would see the PNM becoming “more involved” in the area. One of the highlights of last night’s meeting was when Anand Bedasie denounced the People’s Partnership of which he had been a member. He said he attended yesterday’s meeting to say sorry to the PNM. He pledged support to the party and denounced the People’s Partnership as thieves and liars.

Bedesie said he had served the PP party with his heart and soul but he said he had to get up at 4 am and to take a number just to see his MP. Also speaking at the public meeting councillor Terry Rondon said the PNM would be going to Tobago to host a retreat in the next two weeks. He said: “We mean serious business. Let us start to rebuild the PNM.”

Rondon said he was heartened to see former chairmen and councillors on the walkabout. He said the PNM had started to rebuild but also needed repairs and sincerity. Among those attending the meeting was former ambassador to Canada Camille Robinson-Regis. Another speaker, former minister Arnold Piggott, co-ordinator for Toco/Sangre, said that constituency was a lead constituency which would be able to help the PNM get back into Government. Piggott said it was not easy to be in Opposition but the PNM had been there before.


Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 17, 2011, 10:39:58 PM
Anil doh need class, he need school.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on January 18, 2011, 12:47:51 AM
How many degrees of separation between Anil's statements about Manning tiefin' the piano and Manning's statements about Kamla's home?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 18, 2011, 01:15:58 AM
How many degrees of separation between Anil's statements about Manning tiefin' the piano and Manning's statements about Kamla's home?

Not even in the same vein.

Manning just taking the allegation to its logical conclusion... he left it at the PM's residence when he moved out... Kamla moved in right after... if the piano is no longer at the residence then Kamla is best situated to say where it is... check she house.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on January 18, 2011, 02:56:39 AM
How many degrees of separation between Anil's statements about Manning tiefin' the piano and Manning's statements about Kamla's home?

Not even in the same vein.

Manning just taking the allegation to its logical conclusion... he left it at the PM's residence when he moved out... Kamla moved in right after... if the piano is no longer at the residence then Kamla is best situated to say where it is... check she house.


Sorry for not making my self clearer.  I was spcifically talking about Manning's statements about the cost of Kamla's home and the funding for its construtcion.

He has been referred to the House Privilege Com. for his statements and I as making a comparison to Anand's assertion that Manning stole the piano, and had some colusion with ken Juliaen and UTT to defraud the people of T&T by overspending on wasteful pianos
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 18, 2011, 01:34:57 PM
Too many missteps by AG Ramlogan

Published: Tue, 2011-01-18 23:29
 
When the Prime Minister appointed Anand Ramlogan as Attorney General, I didn’t think it to be too bad a choice since he appeared to have a good handle on the law and had made a name for himself in the field. However, it has been all downhill since then.

Here is a list of the goodly AG’s missteps since assuming office

•Articulated an agenda that was virtually identical to a list of grievances of Devant Maharaj and Gopio/ITEC. This was early in the game so he apparently forgot that he was no longer ITEC’s lawyer but the country’s lawyer. Unfortunately it didn’t stop there.
• Publicly attacked and threatened former Commissioner of Police James Philbert about securing the Guanapo Heights site. Phil-bert’s contract was incidentally rescinded with a month left. 
• Hired a team of mainly his friends and other associates to investigate the financial operations of a number of state companies.
• When criticised for this move by Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley, Ramlogan proceeded to ask facetiously if he should hire his enemies instead. Furthermore, he told Parliament that PNM Senators Hinds and Al Wari received millions of dollars in state briefs. They subsequently denied such.
• Delayed the extradition order of Steve Ferguson and Ishwar Galbaransingh, which gave them the opportunity to craft creative appeals and stay the extradition.
• Played bad cop in a good cop/bad cop double team with the PM against Commissioner Gibbs to come up with a plan for crime.
• Investigations into Sunway Ltd and Calder Hart ongoing. However, he roundly condemned the police for letting Hart go when no charges have been laid against him.
• Investigations into UTT ongoing.
• Sundry other investigations ongoing, all without charges laid by police.
• Hired Sir Gavin Lightman to head a one-man commission of enquiry into Clico. Questions were subsequently raised about his choice when it came to light that this gentleman was involved in Clico’s High Court battle with Republic Bank back in the 80s.

Ramlogan defiantly defended his choice only to be forced, as we say in local parlance, to “boil down like bajhi,” when it was revealed by Senator Penny Beckles that the involvement of Lightman would indeed constitute a conflict of interest.  One would expect that the Attorney General would have properly vetted Sir Lightman before appointing him, or in the least would have looked into the charges once raised, rather than reflexively defending his shocking abdication of duty. n Then came the creme de la creme of missteps—the case of the missing grand piano. I was just about to call on a detective from my high school days, the very capable Nancy Drew, to help find it when, alas, the piano was found right where former Prime Minister Patrick Manning said he left   it. That Ramlogan would seek to impute improper motives to a gentleman who was a former Prime Minister is disgusting and reprehensible. 

Like his politics or not, Manning deserves respect as a former PM, and at the very least as a citizen of T&T is entitled to be protected from unwarranted smear and slander, particularly so when being conducted under the cloak of parliamentary privilege. Ramlogan clearly shows he is clueless about giving respect where it is due and clueless as to responsibilities of his office. Really, how much longer before there is a shortage of eggs due to Ramlogan walking around with quite a few on his face? Please Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, this man was clearly a poor choice for Attorney General. Let him go now before he does any more harm and show us that you do have some testicular fortitude as the job of Prime Minister requires.

Patricia Smart
Santa Cruz


(ahem (http://www.guardian.co.tt/letters/2011/01/18/too-many-missteps-ag-ramlogan))
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 18, 2011, 01:38:55 PM
How many degrees of separation between Anil's statements about Manning tiefin' the piano and Manning's statements about Kamla's home?

Not even in the same vein.

Manning just taking the allegation to its logical conclusion... he left it at the PM's residence when he moved out... Kamla moved in right after... if the piano is no longer at the residence then Kamla is best situated to say where it is... check she house.


Sorry for not making my self clearer.  I was spcifically talking about Manning's statements about the cost of Kamla's home and the funding for its construtcion.

He has been referred to the House Privilege Com. for his statements and I as making a comparison to Anand's assertion that Manning stole the piano, and had some colusion with ken Juliaen and UTT to defraud the people of T&T by overspending on wasteful pianos

I think it's different... he's asking for an inquiry... she's the highest-ranking member of government, if there were any shenanigans that took place we need to know.  Was construction done as a favor owing to her position in the opposition?  Is that person looking to collect now?

With Anand he flat out come and insinuate that de man tief ah piano... all without proof.  He could have privately asked for assistance in locating the piano... or have Griffith search properly in the first place.  If Manning ignore him then put the request on the record in Parliament... without imputing improper acts.

That said, Manning was on some shit with that house business.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: truetrini on January 18, 2011, 05:44:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/bB532YaBvdQ

de UNC theme song.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on January 18, 2011, 06:52:04 PM
Brownie doh play at all  ;D
Title: AG TO APOLOGISE
Post by: Die_Hard on January 18, 2011, 10:08:39 PM
Bakes this is what I was referring to when I spoke about the similarities of talk by Manning and Anand, both violated house privileges.
AG TO APOLOGISE
By NALINEE SEELAL and CLINT CHAN TACK Wednesday, January 19 2011

click on pic to zoom in« prev photo next photo »ATTORNEY GENERAL (AG) Anand Ramlogan will apologise in the House of Representatives either today or on Friday for statements made in the House last Wednesday that one of ten Bosendorfer pianos purchased by the former PNM government was missing and questioning former prime minister Patrick Manning about the whereabouts of the piano.

A day later, the piano was found in the Diplomatic Centre, St Ann’s.

Ramlogan’s apology comes as the PNM moves to raise a matter of privilege against him for misleading the House on that issue.

Government sources yesterday said Government Chief Whip, Housing Minister Dr Roodal Moonilal has been assigned to advise the AG on the manner in which he should frame his apology to the House.

In the wake of his statement, Ramlogan insisted he never accused Manning of taking the piano and saw no need to apologise for his remarks. Ramlogan maintained the issue was the wastage of taxpayers’ monies to buy the pianos.

Newsday understands senior Government members felt embarrassed when it was disclosed that the piano had never gone missing and were disappointed that Ramlogan was unwilling to apologise.

They noted the example of Justice Minister Herbert Volney who apologised to the House for statements made in relation to the provision of a residence for a member of the Judiciary during the Budget debate on September 16, 2010. Volney was spared being referred to the Privileges Committee after he apologised. Government hopes to avoid Ramlogan being subject of a motion of privilege and he has been advised to apologise.

“We are all aware that the AG is new to public life and he needs guidance, so we are all going to pitch in and assist him on his future statements,” a Government source said yesterday.

Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley yesterday said any one of the party’s 12 MPs in the House can raise a matter of privilege against Ramlogan but he did not know whether this would happen today or at Friday’s sitting of the House. Rowley disclosed he was focussing on preparing a motion on the adjournment of today’s sitting of the House that will deal with the alleged behaviour of Police Service Commission chairman Nizam Mohammed towards a police officer last year when Mohammed was reportedly cited for a traffic violation.

Parliament sources yesterday said Diego Martin North/East MP Colm Imbert and Point Fortin MP Paula Gopee-Scoon requested copies of Ramlogan’s contribution in the House from Hansard.

Contacted yesterday, Imbert confirmed he requested a copy of Ramlogan’s contribution while Gopee-Scoon said she had not. Imbert said, “If he has committed a contempt (that is, the deliberate misleading of the House), I will file a motion of privilege, but if he has merely been irresponsible and reckless, he may be able to escape the Privileges Committee.”

“I have read the Hansard record of the AG’s introduction in the debate on the legislative proposals for an anti-corruption commission and I have also read the end of his winding-up.

I am still to receive the first part of his winding-up from the Parliament, but from what I have read so far, he definitely insinuated that a piano worth approximately $1 million had gone missing from the Prime Minister’s residence and he also insinuated that Mr Manning might know of its whereabouts,” Imbert continued.

Imbert added that although Ramlogan “sailed very close to the wind, from what I have read so far, he stopped short of saying that Mr Manning stole the piano.”

“When I receive the last part of his Hansard, I will know whether he has in fact committed a contempt of the House or just merely been reckless.”

Contacted yesterday, Deputy Speaker Dr Fuad Khan said he has not received correspondence from any PNM MP about raising a matter of privilege against Ramlogan at today’s sitting which begins at 1.30 pm. Khan reiterated that if such a request comes before him, he will deal with it.

Khan is deputising for Speaker Wade Mark who was due to return last night from London.

Should the matter be raised on Friday, Mark would recuse himself to allow Khan to adjudicate on the matter since Khan was the presiding officer in the House last Wednesday when Ramlogan made his statement.

Yesterday other PNM parliamentarians said the privilege issue needed to be carefully examined and Ramlogan’s behaviour left a lot to be desired. Speaking to Newsday during the tea break in the Senate, Opposition Senator Pennelope Beckles said she was aware that Imbert was saying that Ramlogan’s contribution needed to be read carefully to determine what he actually said.

Noting the piano has since been found at the Diplomatic Centre where it was originally, Beckles said, “The people in the Lower House will do a careful reading, certainly to ensure that if a decision is made it’s the right one.”

Opposition Senator Fitzgerald Hinds said he would support any decision made by the caucus to raise a matter of privilege against Ramlogan. Outside of that, Hinds described Ramlogan’s behaviour as that of “a hotheaded politician not making a basic inquiry.”

“A piano is not a ten cent coin or a pin that could really be hidden any place. We do not expect that kind of behaviour from the AG of the Republic, The AG holds very serious office. Hiss duty is to uphold the law and the Constitution.

Opposition Senator Faris Al Rawi described Ramlogan’s actions as “the continuation of irresponsibility on his part.” “He who alleges must prove,” Al-Rawi stated. La Brea MP Fitzgerald Jeffery described Ramlogan’s actions in the House last week as “a political fiasco.” “We know what was inferred,” Jeffery stated.

Title: Re: AG TO APOLOGISE
Post by: Bakes on January 18, 2011, 10:39:04 PM
Bakes this is what I was referring to when I spoke about the similarities of talk by Manning and Anand, both violated house privileges.

I disagree... and I didn't read any reference to Manning being referred to the Privileges Committee.  Manning wondered how the house could be constructed on the salaries of the Bissessars and called on the PM to disclose her finances.  The nature of her office and the possibility of a quid pro quo to me are distinguishable grounds relative to the silliness and inaccuracy of the implications brought to fore by Ramlogan. 

Again, for me the house issue is a non-issue, absent of hard evidence I not about to sanction MPs forcing other MPs to disclose where they get money to build their homes.  But to me I can see how it might be in play.  To accuse another member by implication of theft when there was never any theft, and the fact that there never was any theft could readily have been determined by greater due diligence, is the height of irresponsibility and recklessness.  It borders on abuse of said Parliamentary privileges if it hasn't actually crossed it.  More important to me than the question of whether he directly accused Manning or did not accuse him, is the fact that the charge was just so without merit to even begin with.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on January 18, 2011, 11:18:48 PM
Bakes, Manning implied that PM Kamla came upon the money for her house from illegal sources, additionally, he claimed the house was 300million.  He HAS been referred to the Privileges Committee.

Both Manning for the Kamla House statements and Anil for misleading the house on Minaj concert.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Babalawo on January 18, 2011, 11:52:38 PM
Rowley vows to take on Anil, Anand

By Carol Matroo Tuesday, January 18 2011

Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley has gone on the offensive again against two Government ministers saying their conduct in Parliament has been scandalous and “low class”.

Rowley says Sport and Youth Affairs Minister Anil Roberts and Attorney General Anand Ramlogan are setting poor standards of behaviour in their effort to “buss mark” on the former PNM administration.

Responding to allegations made by Roberts in Parliament last Friday, that he had granted approval for Joseph Rahael’s building in Glencoe in 2003, Rowley said as a Government minister Roberts’ conduct was “reprehensible.” “Since he has raised the matter in the Parliament, I will respond to him in the Parliament. There is absolutely no truth to what he has said. His conduct is quite scandalous. He represents a kind of Government where Government ministers believe that their job is to vilify, to lie, to ‘buss mark’ and to expose wrongdoing,” Rowley said.

Rowley said that was how People’s Partnership ministers saw their duty and it was only a matter of time before they became a general nuisance to the population. “I think that Anil Roberts has reached that stage,” Rowley said. He spoke to reporters during a walkabout of Durata Gardens, Sangre Grande, last evening. On the issue of the “lost and found” piano at the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann’s, the Opposition Leader said Ramlogan did not have the class to apologise.

Rowley said there were too many intelligent people in TT and that people wanted to be represented by people of class.

“But what is worrisome, is that this is no ordinary citizen, no ordinary office-holder. This is the AG, the person who is supposed to protect each and every one of us under the Constitution, under the laws, who swore an oath of office to treat fairly with all manner of persons, without fear, without malice, without ill-will, and to stand up in the Parliament and virtually accuse a former prime minister (Patrick Manning) of stealing a piano...and when he’s exposed as being ridiculous in the matter, he says ‘well I don’t care.’ He might not care but we care,” Rowley said.

He added, “the AG has demonstrated time and time again, that class and Anand Ramlogan don’t go together.”

On allegations that Emerald Plaza, owned by Works and Transport Minister Jack Warner, did not receive approval for construction at the Tunapuna/Piarco Regional Corporation, Rowley said he did not want to comment, as he did not have the facts.

However, he said he would not be surprised if this were so, since many buildings in TT were constructed without approval.
http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,134241.html
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Babalawo on January 19, 2011, 08:20:57 PM
Thank you Mr Impulse, I could not have said it better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkwlB8jeEmA
lol now come to post this
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on January 19, 2011, 11:09:24 PM
Only PM can make me apologise—AG
Published: Thu, 2011-01-20 18:55
RHONDA RAMBALLY

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan says only the Prime Minister can instruct him to make an apology.
Ramlogan said he had no intention of apologising on the issue of his recent statements concerning a so-called “missing” piano from the Diplomatic Centre because an apology was only warranted when a person did something wrong.

Ramlogan said in Parliament last week that the piano had been missing from the Diplomatic Centre. It was subsequently discovered that it had been there all along. Ramlogan said an apology was needed for the purchase of ten Bosendorfer pianos by the previous administration which was done unknown to the nation.

“With respect to the apology issue, what I would first say is this...the first port of call for an apology will be an apology for the misuse and vulgar abuse of public funds to purchase ten grand pianos at a time when the country didn’t have enough beds in the hospitals and when that apology is given to the people of this country, then any other apology can be considered in an appropriate time,” Ramlogan said.

He was responding to questions by the media after he presented instruments of appointments to the board of the Law Reform Commission at his ministry on St Vincent Street, Port-of-Spain, yesterday.
It was reported in yesterday’s Newsday that Ramlogan was expected to apologise in the House of Representatives yesterday (Wednesday) or tomorrow (Friday), after Housing Minister Roodal Moonilal was assigned to advise him on the way he should apologise.

Ramlogan, however, said he had no intention of apologising and the spotlight was the abuse of taxpayers’ money. He said he had received support from his Cabinet colleagues on the issue. He said there was nothing wrong in asking former prime minister Patrick Manning for the location of the piano.
“There is absolutely nothing wrong in asking the person who secretly purchased it and would know where he left it to assist us in telling us where it is,” Ramlogan said.

“The fact of the matter is that the piano was supposed to be at the residence and there is no piano at the residence, so Mr Manning quite rightly and quite properly, in my view, indicated where he left the piano which is at the Diplomatic Centre which is not part of the Prime Minister’s residence and that’s the end of the matter.” During yesterday’s Lower House session, Ramlogan indirectly allBill and Indictable Offences Act.

He said he called his loved ones everyday whatever they were studying, whether it was ballet classes or not. Sustaining picong from PNM MP Colm Imbert, the AG also said even those who could not play the piano, if they were taking piano lessons, “...we should check up on them.” When PNM MPs heckled him further, he pelted back a remark about teacups to the Opposition side.

Imbert awaits Hansard records

Imbert said yesterday that he was still in the process of obtaining the Hansard parliamentary records of Ramlogan’s statement on the piano issue. Imbert said after he obtained this, the PNM would decide how it would deal with the matter. Imbert was speaking before yesterday’s Parliament session.

Earlier this week, the PNM’s parliamentary caucus met to decide whether Ramlogan should be taken to the Privileges Committee for misleading the House last Wednesday over his statements about a missing piano. Ramlogan, however, said the Opposition had misperceived its role and did not understand his statements.

“The fact that I may have asked Mr Manning with some assistance for the whereabouts of a piano he purchased with taxpayers’ money that nobody knew about is a matter that I consider appropriate,” he said. He said the Hansard would show what was reported and that the manner in which it was reported was not what was intended when his speech was made.


Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: rotatopoti3 on January 20, 2011, 07:49:23 AM
canal politics at best

if i was d professor dat lecture to these fellows and see how dem using dey education...i would seriously have to think twice about changing my curriculum
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: truetrini on January 20, 2011, 09:42:58 AM
canal politics at best

if i was d professor dat lecture to these fellows and see how dem using dey education...i would seriously have to think twice about changing my curriculum
dais YOUR party.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on January 20, 2011, 10:19:19 AM
Ramlogan is this government's village washerwoman.All the baccanal and attitude except nothing ever gets cleaned.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 20, 2011, 11:02:42 AM
Ramlogan is this government's village washerwoman.All the baccanal and attitude except nothing ever gets cleaned.

I was really surprised when de next one say that Ramlogan was going to apologize and that he new to politics and needed mentoring.  I say whey boy, like Anand boil down fast.  This about face just shows the level of dysfunction in that party... everybody is they own boss.  If the PM have to force you to apologize then what is the point?  I hope they refer he ass tuh de Privileges Committee... hopefully it will hasten his departure.


Could you imagine the late Selwyn Richardson carrying on like this?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on January 20, 2011, 12:36:59 PM
Ramlogan is this government's village washerwoman.All the baccanal and attitude except nothing ever gets cleaned.

I was really surprised when de next one say that Ramlogan was going to apologize and that he new to politics and needed mentoring.  I say whey boy, like Anand boil down fast.  This about face just shows the level of dysfunction in that party... everybody is they own boss.  If the PM have to force you to apologize then what is the point?  I hope they refer he ass tuh de Privileges Committee... hopefully it will hasten his departure.


Could you imagine the late Selwyn Richardson carrying on like this?
I couldn’t even imagine Ramesh Lawrence-Maharaj behaving like this. 
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on January 20, 2011, 02:38:07 PM
Ramlogan is this government's village washerwoman.All the baccanal and attitude except nothing ever gets cleaned.

I was really surprised when de next one say that Ramlogan was going to apologize and that he new to politics and needed mentoring.  I say whey boy, like Anand boil down fast.  This about face just shows the level of dysfunction in that party... everybody is they own boss.  If the PM have to force you to apologize then what is the point?  I hope they refer he ass tuh de Privileges Committee... hopefully it will hasten his departure.


Could you imagine the late Selwyn Richardson carrying on like this?
I couldn’t even imagine Ramesh Lawrence-Maharaj behaving like this. 


Jah, yuh take the words right off mih keyboard!!!......imagine this thing eh??  Ramesh looking like ah rose next to this country bookie.....steups!!  ::)
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on January 20, 2011, 02:57:12 PM
Manning should just STEUPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS after d apologize but then again we might get a Volney type apology.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: elan on January 20, 2011, 08:14:10 PM
Ramlogan is this government's village washerwoman.All the baccanal and attitude except nothing ever gets cleaned.

I was really surprised when de next one say that Ramlogan was going to apologize and that he new to politics and needed mentoring.  I say whey boy, like Anand boil down fast.  This about face just shows the level of dysfunction in that party... everybody is they own boss.  If the PM have to force you to apologize then what is the point?  I hope they refer he ass tuh de Privileges Committee... hopefully it will hasten his departure.


Could you imagine the late Selwyn Richardson carrying on like this?
I couldn’t even imagine Ramesh Lawrence-Maharaj behaving like this. 


Jah, yuh take the words right off mih keyboard!!!......imagine this thing eh??  Ramesh looking like ah rose next to this country bookie.....steups!!  ::)

Browns ah iz ah country bookie yuh know    :'(
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: truetrini on January 20, 2011, 09:06:34 PM
we will facking rise biatches.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: zuluwarrior on January 20, 2011, 10:27:25 PM
Did any of these politicians declare their assets after or before swearing in as ministers in parliment ? i thought that was something that they had to do at some point in time .
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on January 21, 2011, 02:06:29 AM
Ramlogan is this government's village washerwoman.All the baccanal and attitude except nothing ever gets cleaned.

I was really surprised when de next one say that Ramlogan was going to apologize and that he new to politics and needed mentoring.  I say whey boy, like Anand boil down fast.  This about face just shows the level of dysfunction in that party... everybody is they own boss.  If the PM have to force you to apologize then what is the point?  I hope they refer he ass tuh de Privileges Committee... hopefully it will hasten his departure.


Could you imagine the late Selwyn Richardson carrying on like this?
I couldn’t even imagine Ramesh Lawrence-Maharaj behaving like this. 


Jah, yuh take the words right off mih keyboard!!!......imagine this thing eh??  Ramesh looking like ah rose next to this country bookie.....steups!!  ::)

Browns ah iz ah country bookie yuh know    :'(

Elan boy, I consider mih self ah country girl.  And he putting all ah we country ppl to shame..... :-[
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on January 21, 2011, 05:57:27 AM
Did any of these politicians declare their assets after or before swearing in as ministers in parliment ? i thought that was something that they had to do at some point in time .

yes they did
Title: Re: PIANO FOUND!
Post by: pecan on January 25, 2011, 05:58:25 PM
LIke Manning was on point!  Like dat dumb @#$%^# eh know what ah piano look like? Looks like dis is de Peoples Partnershit.

PIANO FOUND!
...at the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann's
By Anna Ramdass anna.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Jan 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM ECT

(Story Updated: Jan 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM ECT )

The grand piano has been found —in the very place it was alleged to have been missing from.

National Security adviser to the Prime Minister, Gary Griffith, told the Express by phone yesterday that the piano was found after checks of the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann's.

"It (the piano) seemed to be deliberately tucked and hidden away. It was covered with layers of cloth and appears to have never been used," Griffith told the Express.



allyuh sure they find the piano?

Look what dey find on a sandbar in Miami ....

(http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/5a/b0/a7c97aae4fde94be4fde3d8adfef.jpeg)

Mysterious grand piano shows up on a Miami sandbar
Published On Tue Jan 25 2011


A U.S. Coast Guard boat passes near a grand piano on a sandbar in Biscayne Bay, Tuesday, Jan. 25, 2011 in Miami.
Wilfredo Lee/AP
Associated Press

MIAMI — A grand piano recently showed up on a sandbar in Miami’s Biscayne Bay, about 180 meters from condominiums on the shore.

The piano, which weighs nearly 300 kilograms, was placed at the highest spot along the sandbar so it doesn’t get underwater during high tide.

While officials aren’t sure how it got there, they know it won’t be going anywhere unless it becomes a hazard to wildlife or boaters.

Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission spokesman Jorge Pino says the agency is not responsible for moving such items, The Miami Herald newspaper reports. And, he adds, unless it becomes a navigational hazard, the U.S. Coast Guard won’t get involved.

For now, the piano has become a fancy roost for seagulls.
Title: Re: PIANO FOUND!
Post by: weary1969 on January 25, 2011, 09:43:30 PM
LIke Manning was on point!  Like dat dumb @#$%^# eh know what ah piano look like? Looks like dis is de Peoples Partnershit.

PIANO FOUND!
...at the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann's
By Anna Ramdass anna.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Jan 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM ECT

(Story Updated: Jan 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM ECT )

The grand piano has been found —in the very place it was alleged to have been missing from.

National Security adviser to the Prime Minister, Gary Griffith, told the Express by phone yesterday that the piano was found after checks of the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann's.

"It (the piano) seemed to be deliberately tucked and hidden away. It was covered with layers of cloth and appears to have never been used," Griffith told the Express.



allyuh sure they find the piano?

Look what dey find on a sandbar in Miami ....

(http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/5a/b0/a7c97aae4fde94be4fde3d8adfef.jpeg)

Mysterious grand piano shows up on a Miami sandbar
Published On Tue Jan 25 2011


A U.S. Coast Guard boat passes near a grand piano on a sandbar in Biscayne Bay, Tuesday, Jan. 25, 2011 in Miami.
Wilfredo Lee/AP
Associated Press

MIAMI — A grand piano recently showed up on a sandbar in Miami’s Biscayne Bay, about 180 meters from condominiums on the shore.

The piano, which weighs nearly 300 kilograms, was placed at the highest spot along the sandbar so it doesn’t get underwater during high tide.

While officials aren’t sure how it got there, they know it won’t be going anywhere unless it becomes a hazard to wildlife or boaters.

Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission spokesman Jorge Pino says the agency is not responsible for moving such items, The Miami Herald newspaper reports. And, he adds, unless it becomes a navigational hazard, the U.S. Coast Guard won’t get involved.

For now, the piano has become a fancy roost for seagulls.


 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on February 03, 2011, 05:54:51 AM
Here we go again with this country bookie AG..... ::) ::)


Shut up; let the law take its course

Only with the greatest difficulty is Trinidad and Tobago getting used to an Attorney General in the character of a loose cannon. Public tolerance must be in decline for as exalted a state official as the incumbent, who almost never opens his mouth but to misspeak himself.

Mr Ramlogan seems to have learned nothing from the latest embarrassing experience of three weeks ago, when he virtually accused former prime minister Patrick Manning of stealing a valuable grand piano from the Prime Minister's Residence. Even after the piano was found a few hours later, Mr Ramlogan was unrepentant.

In his latest example of unrestrained and insensitive venting, the Attorney General was heard at best second-guessing the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) in the Senate on Tuesday. In remarks that could only be regarded as putting pressure on the DPP's decision-making in the Calder Hart case, Mr Ramlogan gratuitously and unhelpfully expanded upon a matter that should really be left alone by anyone in the Government: "Do I think Calder Hart should be charged? Absolutely!"

Speaking on the Prevention of Corruption Act, Mr Ramlogan himself outlined the procedure to be followed in any prosecution, ostensibly to clear up what he described as "a misunderstanding and a misconception in the population about the Government's ability to deliver justice." Criminal matters are investigated by the police, who send their findings to the DPP, and it is the DPP alone who decides whether criminal charges should then be brought.

Indeed, it is Mr Ramlogan who appears to be labouring under a misconception—about the nature of his own role. The very aggressiveness and outspokenness that made him a prominent member of the Bar in private practice count as a grievous liability in his present role. The duties of an attorney general require a more statesmanlike, or at least, diplomatic, use of those qualities.

Mr Ramlogan is, or should be, not merely the legal adviser to the Government but also an independent guardian of the public interest. He must therefore take care not to abuse the freedom of speech he enjoys as a Member of Parliament to infringe on the rights of citizens. The matter involving Calder Hart is not yet sub judice, but comments by an attorney general on a legal question could have considerable influence, if not on the DPP, then on the views of the public, from whom the jury in any consequent trial would be drawn.

Since he admitted he could not himself prosecute Mr Hart, Mr Ramlogan should know better, once again. He should shut up, and let the law take its course, rather than throwing his rhetorical weight around to no good effect, but certainly to lower public esteem for the office of the Attorney General


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/commentaries/Shut_up__let_the_law_take_its_course-115156319.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/commentaries/Shut_up__let_the_law_take_its_course-115156319.html)
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on February 03, 2011, 09:26:44 AM
PEOPLE'S National Movement Opposition senators have urged Attorney General Anand Ramlogan to stop the old talk and go after Calder Hart, with one them even giving him legal advice on how to do so.

In his contribution to a motion to establish a joint select committee (JSC) to consider amendments to the Prevention of Corruption Act on Tuesday night, Opposition Senator Faris Al Rawi advised Ramlogan on how to catch Hart, who was the main subject of the Urban Development Corporation of Trinidad and Tobago (UDeCOTT) fiasco.

Said Al Rawi: "May I as an attorney, wearing a hat purely, now tell everybody in Trinidad and Tobago, there is a very simple mechanism if you want to get Calder Hart. You can lay a private indictable as a normal citizen in the Magistrates' Court. Lay whatever charges you think you can commit him on and proceed with the matter.

"So enough talk about Calder Hart. I could assist you in teaching you how it's done; the job is up to you because you need to find evidence; you need to prosecute that evidence; you may be taken over by the Director of Public Prosecutions who may not give you a feat for prosecuting yourself, but you can lay the charges. So get on with it and enough talk!"

The calls to go after Hart were reiterated by Opposition senators Pennelope Beckles-Robinson and Terrence Deyalsingh.

Ramlogan had said there was enough evidence to charge Hart with perjury but added this was in the hands of the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP). He reiterated he could not just bypass the DPP and go after Hart, adding the DPP's office must be respected.

Ramlogan also pointed out if it was as easy as Al Rawi stated, then records would show his predecessor, John Jeremie, was also trying to charge Hart.

"I wish to place on the record my support for work undertaken by my predecessor, Mr John Jeremie, in this regard," Ramlogan said.

He said Jeremie spent millions on external firms, including Bob Lindquist, in his pursuit of investigations into UDeCOTT and Hart.

"I should say that I should stand here in defence of Mr Jeremie and the former administration that they, too, wanted to charge Calder Hart, but they couldn't do it because it simply is not possible to do it in the way my learned friend suggests," Ramlogan said.

Ramlogan pledged full support to any action Al Rawi may take against Hart.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Al_Rawi_offers_AG_help_to_catch_Hart-115156284.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Al_Rawi_offers_AG_help_to_catch_Hart-115156284.html)
 Up to now no charge.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on February 03, 2011, 10:32:42 AM

 Up to now no charge.

Not totally true. Thus far there has been Grand- Charging.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on February 03, 2011, 12:24:25 PM

 Up to now no charge.

Not totally true. Thus far there has been Grand- Charging.



 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on February 03, 2011, 12:55:47 PM

 Up to now no charge.

Not totally true. Thus far there has been Grand- Charging.


The Hart fiasco and the Toruba Stadium are scadalous relics of the last government. The public craves justice and this government purported same. Without going through the catalog of errors,gaffes and outright acts of deception coming from this AG I want to note that this man was only a couple of weeks ago talking about a piano when these two gaping issues are being either neglected or being used as tune they can sing at will to deflect any given scandal.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: boss on February 08, 2011, 02:02:30 PM
WDMC!?! Why is this news?!?!  ???

(http://www.newsday.co.tt/aktualnosci/fullfront1395front.JPG)

MATCHMAKER
Newsday
By Andre Bagoo Tuesday, February 8 2011

HE MAY be the Cabinet’s chief adviser on law, but Attorney General Anand Ramlogan is also apparently used to advising on the topic of love.

On his profile page on Facebook, the social networking website, Ramlogan on Saturday issued a call for single Muslim men who believe they have what it takes to meet a close female friend.

“Looking for a decent Muslim boy for a decent, university educated, beautiful, Muslim girl (25),” Ramlogan, who is married, wrote as his profile status late Saturday evening. “Inbox me if you’re serious and ready to settle down!”

His Cupid-like activities came mere days before Valentine’s Day.

Facebook users throughout the country immediately went aflutter. Some questioned whether the Attorney General was involved in an arranged marriage and posted a series of comments in response to his open call.

One woman from Maraval wrote, “The decent, university-educated, beautiful Muslim girl, has she endorsed this idea? Has she said, by her own and sole discretion, that she is seeking a mate?”

Referring to the popular dating website eharmony.com, another woman, a Trinidadian resident in Florida, wrote: “I see you have your own eharmony.com. Can we call this Anand love line.com?”

A man of Sangre Grande commented, “Instead of looking for the ‘Lookhanee’ wuk, find a way to deal with Hart, Pena, Patos...etc.”

A lookhanee is a figure who, in Hindu tradition, normally intervenes during the courtship of couples.

Ramlogan responded by explaining why he was making his matchmaking call. “I am very serious! Doing well folks and yes it’s at her request. Just wanted to try something different I guess.”

“I have introduced five friends to their wives and they are quite happy,” Ramlogan revealed. He noted the proliferation of internet dating sites.

“Dating sites are flourishing and matching couples all over the world because the way we interface and interact is changing,” he said. “It is a challenge to meet Mr or Mrs Right for many.”

“The young lady in question is close to me and is fed up of jokers and guys whose thinking is one generation behind. This is not an arranged marriage but a genuine attempt to introduce my friend to someone nice and let them take it from there,” he said.

The Attorney General’s heartfelt appeal surprised many who are more accustomed to his talk of the State’s dogged pursuit of ex-Udecott chairman Calder Hart. Ramlogan’s comments may also raise eyebrows among members of the PNM, a party whose former leader Patrick Manning once famously billed its national policy as “a love thing”.

With regard to the practice of arranged marriage, the Attorney General said there are “many good arguments in both directions.” He noted that the dating scene today is different from what it used to be years ago. In particular, he said men and women are now looking for different things in a partner.

“Boys of today aren’t really being prepared for the girls of tomorrow,” he wrote. “Their concept of manhood is limited and skewed. There is a huge gap between what girls are looking for and what guys want/expect. Some men are looking for a girl in the mould of their mother whilst their sisters are looking for a guy that is different from their father.”

“I have written a paper on this subject, for those who may be interested,” the Attorney General added.

Ramlogan continued, “Far too many educated, intelligent, independent, classy and sexy girls have asked me to introduce them to decent guys who are serious about a relationship. They have had no luck on their own and are fed up and frustrated. Some have even resigned themselves to a single life but it is not by choice. Others have chosen to do so and some of them are happy. Many pretend to be happy by default.”

“Arranged marriages is another issue altogether and there are many good arguments in both directions. For now, I content myself in connecting people that are of similar minds and maturity in the hope that they can develop a friendship that may or may not lead to something lasting,” Ramlogan said.

As of yesterday afternoon there were 70 comments posted beneath Ramlogan’s entry, which has since been browsed by thousands of visitors to his Facebook profile since Saturday. Nineteen people also clicked a tab indicating that they “liked” the comment.

Ramlogan, 38, is married to Nalini Ramlogan and is a father of two children: Shweta, six, and Aneil, four. Nalini, like her husband, also has a Facebook account. However she did not comment on Facebook on her husband’s matchmaking activity.

Like many politicians who have embraced the internet, the Attorney General has often expressed some of his views on the social networking site, where he has 4,659 “Friends”.

But sometimes, the firebrand Attorney General – who got into hot water recently over a “missing” grand piano – reveals a far more prosaic side than the national population is accustomed to seeing. “Any good movies showing at MovieTowne?” he asked on Friday.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on February 08, 2011, 02:15:18 PM
How he supposed tuh investigate corruption and update he Facebook status at de same time... allyuh be fair tuh de man nuh.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: zuluwarrior on February 09, 2011, 07:58:50 AM
'Unsuitable' PNM appointment
Anand hits back:
By Ria Taitt Political Editor
 
  AG going witch hunting ,tit for tat politics .



Story Created: Feb 8, 2011 at 11:55 PM ECT

(Story Updated: Feb 8, 2011 at 11:55 PM ECT )

As Government continues to grapple with the fallout from the Reshmi Ramnarine affair, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan yesterday accused the former PNM government of making an unsuitable appointment for Director of the Financial Intelligence Unit, in the person of David West.

Speaking in the Senate on the Financial Intelligence Unit (FIU) Amendment bill, Ramlogan slammed the appointment of attorney David West as director.

Ramlogan said the legislation contemplated that the FIU would be an independent body, not susceptible to undue to political interference. Furthermore, he said, the director, according to the legislation, was supposed to be someone in the public system, "known and respected within the public service". However, the Attorney General said the appointment represented a "glaring" conflict of interest, since West was an attorney in private practice who was a legal consultant "on a monthly retainer" from the Attorney General's office.

"So here it is you had someone who was not a public officer, selected by the PNM Cabinet to receive confidential financial information from financial institutions and the person reports directly, wearing a different hat, to the Attorney General of the very administration and all along at the same time, being in private practice," Ramlogan said.

"He reported to the Attorney General as a consultant for the Central Authority and at the same time in private practice, he was in a position of determining in his discretion whether information received and analysed by international financial FIU should be submitted for further investigation to the Commissioner of Police or the Director of Public Prosecutions."

The AG added, "I cast no aspersions on Mr West. Mr West may very well have been, I daresay, is a competent attorney at law. But what we could not do is to put Mr West in the unenviable, embarrassing and even illegal position of appointing him to serve as the Director of the FIU... statutory duties that Parliament clearly intended to invest in an independent person, as opposed to someone who had a boss in the person of the Attorney General, who is a member of the executive political arm."

PNM Senator Fitzgerald Hinds rose to ask the Attorney General whether he was aware that West worked in the public sector for many years during confidential important work, up until the time he was appointed as Director. Hinds also said he had heard no negative comments about West's performance.

Ramlogan said Hinds missed the point that according to the legislation, the director must be a public serving officer, not someone on contract, reporting to the Attorney General, a politically appointed person. "They (the PNM) undermined the Financial Intelligence Act...Mr West was not able in law to concurrently perform all three functions (given to him)," Ramlogan thundered.

Hinds rejoined that the Attorney General should perhaps confine himself to matchmaking.

"I understand he is in a loveless party and if he feels he could get love on this side ...," Ramlogan said.

"I want to assure you that I am not even half interested in your kind of love!" Hinds shot back.

Ramlogan said the PNM had the unmitigated gall to come and point fingers, when it failed to take the necessary actions to make Trinidad and Tobago financially compliant in joining the global fight against money laundering. He said in February 2010, this country was placed on a list of country with strategic AML CFT (Anti-Money laundering and combating of financial terrorism) deficiencies
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Dutty on February 09, 2011, 10:26:53 AM
Hinds rejoined that the Attorney General should perhaps confine himself to matchmaking.

"I understand he is in a loveless party and if he feels he could get love on this side ...," Ramlogan said.

"I want to assure you that I am not even half interested in your kind of love!" Hinds shot back.

Well yes,,them fellahs doin a full bore comedy act oui

That facebook ting go be in somebody kaiso dis year
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on February 09, 2011, 10:51:41 AM
Hinds rejoined that the Attorney General should perhaps confine himself to matchmaking.

"I understand he is in a loveless party and if he feels he could get love on this side ...," Ramlogan said.

"I want to assure you that I am not even half interested in your kind of love!" Hinds shot back.

Well yes,,them fellahs doin a full bore comedy act oui
That facebook ting go be in somebody kaiso dis year

Since this government got elected I declared that the Parliament Channel have more comedy than Comedy Central.....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on February 09, 2011, 11:00:02 AM
I don't have a problem with Ramlogan playing match maker for people. He make himself an ass when he put that up on facebook though. He's not a celebrity entertainer he's supposed to be a statesman. You could do that in your spare time in your inner circle. What kinda characters he expect to hook people up with on the facebook anyway ?It just laughable. Country Bookie as Brownsugar would put it, just not accustomed and don't know what is appropriate to say and do.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on February 09, 2011, 12:08:11 PM
Sammy...yuh have Anand on facebook? Hit him a message..yuh might get through with de gyal.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: zuluwarrior on February 09, 2011, 12:15:34 PM
So Jah you and Brownsugar feel country bookie came to town see the lights and get brite oh what ?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on February 09, 2011, 12:44:21 PM
So Jah you and Brownsugar feel country bookie came to town see the lights and get brite oh what ?
Ramadhar would have done a better job. Cut your loses and say you do the reshuffle for strategic reasons. Ramlogan is a liability in that post.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: MEP on February 09, 2011, 01:20:59 PM
Ah boy ...ent ah did tell allyuh de man have he agenda....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: STEUPS!! on February 09, 2011, 06:08:27 PM
Sammy...yuh have Anand on facebook? Hit him a message..yuh might get through with de gyal.


 ;D
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on February 09, 2011, 10:40:41 PM
Time for ANand Ramlogan to be FIRED!  What more must this clown articulte to be fired?

Now the DPP has in effect told him to SHUT UP!
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: sammy on February 10, 2011, 09:29:07 AM
Sammy...yuh have Anand on facebook? Hit him a message..yuh might get through with de gyal.


 ;D


cyah do that...brown sugar go kill she self  ;)
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on February 10, 2011, 09:34:38 AM
Sammy...yuh have Anand on facebook? Hit him a message..yuh might get through with de gyal.


 ;D


cyah do that...brown sugar go kill she self  ;)

Nah.  Ah didn't dead when Birchy betray mih so nobody else could get mih to harm mih self, right Palos..... ;D
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: sammy on February 10, 2011, 09:41:20 AM
Sammy...yuh have Anand on facebook? Hit him a message..yuh might get through with de gyal.


 ;D


cyah do that...brown sugar go kill she self  ;)

Nah.  Ah didn't dead when Birchy betray mih so nobody else could get mih to harm mih self, right Palos..... ;D
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good good...i rather come a Tobago wedding instead of a Tobago funeral  ;D :beermug:
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on February 10, 2011, 12:32:28 PM
Sammy...yuh have Anand on facebook? Hit him a message..yuh might get through with de gyal.


 ;D



 :rotfl:
cyah do that...brown sugar go kill she self  ;)

Nah.  Ah didn't dead when Birchy betray mih so nobody else could get mih to harm mih self, right Palos..... ;D
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on February 11, 2011, 02:59:19 PM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/DPP_TAKES_ON_AG-115692639.html

Director of Public Prosecutions Roger Gaspard has accused Attorney General Anand Ramlogan of making "incautious" statements which have no "proper factual or legal basis".

In a statement issued yesterday, Gaspard also stressed he had no obligation to "any individual, political party or politician", and his primary concern was dispensing justice fairly.

Gaspard, who was overseas on official business and returned to office on Monday, yesterday responded to statements made by Ramlogan that enough evidence had been obtained to charge Calder Hart, former Urban Development Corporation of Trinidad and Tobago Ltd (UDeCOTT) executive chairman, for lying under oath at last year's Commission of Enquiry into UDeCOTT and the construction sector.

Ramlogan made the comment in the Senate last Tuesday, but noted his hands were tied by the Constitution, and the decision to charge Hart is now solely up to the DPP.

"Do I think there is enough evidence for the DPP to lay a charge against Calder Hart? Yes, I do. Can I, the Attorney General, or this Government so direct him? No," Ramlogan said then.

Ramlogan said he meant no disrespect when he said he identified with the frustration on the ground, with respect to the fact charges may not have been laid in the Hart matter. He said he was expressing an opinion, adding he also respected the DPP's opinion.

Yesterday, however, Gaspard, responding to all this, said: "Unfortunately, these statements suggest that there is enough evidence to proffer a charge in this matter and that there is some inexplicable reason why the Director of Public Prosecutions has failed or refused to direct that such a charge be laid.

"In the circumstances and so as to address certain public misconceptions which may have been excited by the Attorney General's remarks, I feel constrained to publicly indicate that these investigations have not been completed, and that the relevant file is still with the investigators."

Gaspard added: "Thus, it would not be prudent or proper for me, at this stage, to direct that any charge be laid. I can only proceed so to do on the basis of evidence and, even so, that evidence must be of sufficient quality. Further, before a prosecution could be commenced, not only must the evidence reach the required standard, but such a prosecution must be in the public interest.

"Therefore, the statements and innuendoes propagated by the Honourable Attorney General, about which I take issue, are without any proper factual or legal basis. Moreover, those statements made by the Honourable Attorney General appear even more incautious when one considers the sensitive nature of these investigations.

"Most importantly, I wish to assure the general public that I hold no brief for any indiviual, political party or politician, and that my primary concern is the fair dispensing of a quality legal service to the people of Trinidad and Tobago. Accordingly, this mandate is the only one that I recognise. The stream of due process must be allowed to mark its rightful and undefiled course."

Contacted for comment last night, Ramlogan said he respected and accepted the fact that the decision to charge was one for the sole discretion and judgment of the DPP. He said, however, he was concerned about the length of time the police were taking to complete this investigation, having regard to the fact that Carl Khan, the former husband of Sherrie Hart, gave evidence before the Uff commission of enquiry (which concluded its hearings in February last year) and statements to the police that he knew the two directors of CH Development were closely related to Mrs Hart. (CH Development was the three-week-old company which was given a $368 million contract by the Hart-led board for the construction of the Ministry of Legal Affairs Towers.)

Ramlogan added the Malsayian authorities had provided documents, through the Congress of the People and the Ministry of the Attorney General, to substantiate Khan's statements and confirm this fact.

"I, therefore, call upon the Commissioner of Police to expedite this investigation to provide the DPP with all the available evidence," the Attorney General said.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on February 11, 2011, 05:56:21 PM
So he say is d DPP y Hart eh charge who say shut up it eh me. So is d COP fault now. Leh we hear what Gibbs will say.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: 1-868 on February 13, 2011, 10:40:48 AM
http://guardian.co.tt/sport/2011/02/13/cops-probe-govt-official

Cops to probe Govt official
Published: Sun, 2011-02-13 11:12
Anika Gumbs-Sandiford
The Mayaro location where it is alleged the conspiracy was orchestrated between a government official and another man leading to the arrest of former government ministers Franklin Khan and Eric Williams. Photo: Nicole Drayton

A senior Government official—a senator—is to be questioned by police in a fraud conspiracy after Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar forwarded a letter to Commissioner of Police (CoP) Dwayne Gibbs.
Sunday Guardian has learnt that the hand-written letter forms a vital piece of evidence in the police matter as it allegedly links the top government official to willfully conspiring to set up two former government ministers. The four-page letter was sent to the Prime Minister three weeks ago by a man who once had close links to the former administration. The letter dated December 27, 2010 was sent to the top cop last month by Persad-Bissessar to be investigated. The CoP has forwarded the letter to the Director of Public Prosecutions. A copy of the letter was also sent to the top Government official in question.

Meanwhile, a senior Express journalist and a former PNM official have already been quizzed in connection with the letter sent to the PM. Itwas on September 21 that senator Fitzgerald Hinds in Parliament claimed that a member of the Cabinet and Government of T&T, along with a journalist from CCN, allegedly concocted a story against aof the letter alleged that the government official falsified a piece of correspondence at the office of a San Fernando-based attorney that lead to the arrests of People’s National Movement ministers Franklin Khan and Eric Williams on corruption allegations that surfaced more than six years ago.

Story concocted at a beach resort
In addition, investigators are also said to be probing a lead that revealed the plot behind the conspiracy was because an attorney had stopped receiving legal briefs due to the change of board members at a State enterprise. “Investigations are progressing. Three weeks ago a statement was sent to the Prime Minister and it was handed over to the CoP to be investigated. If word gets out from the PMs office that the Prime Minister received this letter and then it ends up missing it would not reflect well. All aspects of this matter are being investigated. The filth from this conspiracy could touch a high office holder,” a top police source disclosed.

It is alleged that the conspiracy was first orchestrated between the Government official and the man at an East Coast beach resort where the individual was spending a long weekend. Following that meeting, Sunday Guardian understands, several pieces of correspondence were prepared implicating Khan and Williams in a plot where they were accused of accepting bribes and kickbacks in return for contracts in the industrial sector. A copy was also forwarded to Persad-Bissessar, the then Siparia MP, who read out the letter during an April sitting of Parliament in 2005.
Copies were also sent to former Prime Minister, Patrick Manning and former Attorney General, John Jermie alleging several misdemeanors tantamount to misbehaviour in public office.

Perverting the course of justice
It was based on allegations that the matter was handed over to the Integrity Commission for investigation spearheaded by Special Branch Acting Commissioner of Police Wellington Virgil.
Both Khan and Williams were subsequently charged.
Khan was charged with six counts of corruptly receiving bribes totalling $120,500, while Williams was charged with accepting $75,000.
Both Khan and Williams resigned from their ministerial posts following the allegations.
However, Williams was freed of the charges by Port-of-Spain magistrate Lucian Cardenas-Ragoonanan on December 31, 2007 based on unreliable evidence.
Three years later on September 21, the corruption charges against Khan were dropped when Director of Public Prosecutions Roger Gaspard informed deputy chief magistrate Mark Wellington that the State had opted to discontinue proceedings against Khan because of “new developments” appearing to be attempts to pervert the course of justice.
However, investigations later revealed that the correspondences were “suspect.”
The unearthing of this new development, Sunday Guardian learnt, has led investigators back to the matter.
It was former CoP, James Philbert who instructed acting senior supt Martin Morean to investigate the matter. However, the matter was passed on to senior supt David Nedd when Morean proceeded on pre-retirement leave. Nedd, police sources said, is also on leave. Philbert claimed in an exclusive interview with the Sunday Guardian that he was hounded out of office because of his involvement in the case.
The matter is now in the hands of ACP Raymond Craig.
Police sources revealed that CoP Gibbs and Craig met with the DPP a few weeks ago to discuss the status of the investigation.
Several attempts to contact the DPP yesterday proved futile.
(Reporting by Malissa Lara-Patterson)

(Flashback)

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Wednesday, April 27, 2005
The House met at 1.30 pm

Statement by Siparia MP Persad-Bissessar that led to the arrest of Khan and William.

“During our conversation Minister Williams again told me that I should be careful as though threatening me, for Ralph Brown and intelligent services is on my case. I then told Minister Williams that I will take this matter to the Prime Minister and he replied that I will be surprised to know how much Mr Manning is against me if I spoke to him, the Prime Minister. I then told him that this conversation is getting no where. To this Minister Williams told me that I was greedy and he also believed that I was sabotaging the project. I then reminded Minister Williams that I had already given him $75,000 in bribes on the said project and I will expose him. He said expose Frankie too, referring to Minister Khan. He then hung up.
Therefore, Prime Minister, in the circumstances, I am with a death threat hanging over my head. I am confirming to you that I have paid bribes to both Ministers Franklin Khan and Eric Williams on the said seismic project and further, Minister Khan used one of my companies in the 2001 general elections to rip off a venture production to pay for his campaign. I can make much more information available to you, Mr PM, but I will stay here for now. As you will observe Prime Minister, I wrote this part of the letter in my own handwriting for I did not want anyone typing this letter to be privy to the foregoing information. I wish not to bring your party nor government nor Cabinet into dispute, but I have taken precaution to send copies sealed of this correspondence to New York and to prominent persons locally, in the event harm comes to me. I do not want to end up as Hansraj Sumairsingh. Therefore, Prime Minister, I am asking you to pacify this situation urgently for time on my part is not a comfort.

I have in my hands what I found in my mailbox. I know that the Member for Diego Martin West always gets letters in his mailbox. I was fortunate to get this in my mailbox.  We are speaking of a report of the EBC but we cannot turn a blind eye on the whole electoral process of the country.  That is the bedrock of the democracy.

This letter is addressed to the hon Prime Minister. It says
Having written to you the preceding letter, I visited Minister Franklin Khan at his office on Ash Wednesday. I felt obliged to do so because I have certain arrangements with Minister Khan. At his office, Minister Khan told me that Minister Williams met him on Carnival Tuesday and told him certain things about me and the seismic project. I related to Minister Khan the threats that Minister Williams made to me. Minister Khan then told me that one retired General Ralph Brown is the source of all the bad reports that Mr Manning is receiving. He further told me that Eric Williams told him also that for quite some time Mr Ralph Brown is keeping Mr Manning updated on the project and poisoning your mind against me.  Mr Khan then asked me to leave his office, he wanted to make a private call.  After about five minutes Minister Khan then called me back to his office and asked me to speak to Minister Eric Williams on the phone.  I hesitated but the Minister insisted and I reluctantly spoke to Minister Williams.”
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on February 13, 2011, 12:02:48 PM
Oh boy.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: royal on February 13, 2011, 07:43:01 PM
could we sink any lower.Integrity is not a word used in Trinidad anymore
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on February 13, 2011, 07:52:25 PM
could we sink any lower.Integrity is not a word used in Trinidad anymore

Always remember we iz d land of d limbo.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: zuluwarrior on February 14, 2011, 09:40:56 PM
Dis remind me of the band Gypsy is bringing for carnival come with anything play anything as long as yuh have a costume , these politicians believe know body could touch them .
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on February 24, 2011, 09:46:13 PM
‘Forces’ trying to intimidate me—AG
Published: Fri, 2011-02-25 20:18
Richard Lord
 
Attorney General Anand Ramlogan says he has had to request more security after threats to his life by former PNM councillor Dansam Dhansook. Ramlogan said so during yesterday’s post-Cabinet news conference at the Prime Minister’s office in St Clair. Dhansook had filed a matter in court several years ago, alleging that he had offered a bribe to then minister of Works and Transport Franklin Khan. Khan was subsequently freed of all charges and Dhansook issued a public apology. But Ramlogan said Dhansook had nothing to do with the victory achieved by Khan, who is seeking to become chairman of the PNM in next month’s party elections.

Ramlogan said in July last year, he received “an odd letter” from Dansam Dhansook which contained demands for work from the People’s Partnership Government. He said he ignored that and a second letter from Dhansook came to him. He said demands were intensified in a third letter sent to him “and ended the letter with what I interpreted clearly to be a threat to my and my family’s personal security and also an attempt to blackmail me.” Ramlogan said he called then commissioner of police James Philbert “and I gave it to him and I ask that it be investigated.”

The AG continued: “The second thing that I did, having regard to the allegation of Mr Dhansook was making—the allegations being that I drafted a letter for him to send to the Prime Minister that would have led to the charges—immediately I drafted the letter to the DPP of the country, sending him a copy of that letter and highlighting for the DPP, the fact that this letter may have implications for pending prosecutions.” Ramlogan said Khan was free of the charges today, “not because Dansam Dhansook had a change of heart or had any pangs of conscience, it was because I took it upon myself to disclose to the DPP a letter he sent me in confidence, a letter which made allegations and threats and I passed it to both the Commissioner of Police and the DPP for three things to be done.”

He listed the requests:

An immediate police investigations to be done.
• Security for myself and my family be looked into.
• That implications for the prosecution’s case against Franklin Khan be looked into by the DPP.

Ramlogan said that “was what led to the DPP statement in court where that matter was withdrawn.” The AG said he had noticed that a Sunday newspaper since then “paint and portray Mr Dhansook in a positive light,” as though he had some change of heart and was responsible for the matter against Khan to be withdrawn.  He insisted: “Nothing could be further from the truth.” He said subsequent to that, Dhansook wrote another letter threatening that if he (AG) did not meet certain demands “the matter would be raised in Parliament...and he put a deadline.
“I ignored it, I passed every letter I have received from Mr Dhansook, everything I have received I have passed it to the DPP and the Commissioner of Police,” the AG said.

He said the promise by Dhansook to raise the matter in the Senate did take place. “True to form, Senator Fitzgerald Hinds raised the matter in the Senate,” he said. “They didn’t call names but they raised it. Next thing I know he write a next one saying a prominent figure will come after me. Next thing I hear is Abu Bakr (Jamaat al Muslimeen leader) with Ian Alleyne’s programme, linking himself to Dhansook and the story.” Ramlogan said: “There is a marshalling of forces to try and intimidate me. I am not easily intimidated. I don’t fear Mr Dansam Dhansook.” He added: “Not only has Mr Dhansook created this mischief, he has sent other letters to make allegations against other government ministers, against just about everybody in the Government.”

He said Dhansook “did the same thing under the last (PNM) administration.” Ramlogan said similar allegations were made against former AG John Jeremie and Minister in the Office of the Prime Minister Dr Lenny Saith. The AG said all those letters had been given to the DPP and the Commissioner of Police. He stressed again that he had “nothing to fear or to worry about when it came to Dansam Dhansook and these spurious, malicious and false allegations.”
Ramlogan said he understood why Dhansook was doing those things. He said it was the result of a political matter involving Khan, who is seeking the return as chairman of the PNM.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on February 24, 2011, 10:15:26 PM
Oh boy.

Is Anand being targeted because he wasnt interested in Dhansook's daughter?
Is Dhansook suffering with a multiple personality disorder and sporadic amnesia?
Will Frankie Khan be able to regain his Colgate sponsorship?


Tune in next week for the next chapter in "Animal Farm"

 ::)


Dis whole affair go be so sordid and messy and a setta he say she say dem do ting dat it go be frustrating to get to the bottom of.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on February 24, 2011, 10:21:47 PM
Oh boy.

Will Frankie Khan be able to regain his Colgate sponsorship?



All yuh real talented boi. Dat is a good 1 I eh go lie  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: sammy on March 01, 2011, 07:12:57 AM
look allyuh favorite PP celeb on power 102 now.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Dutty on March 01, 2011, 07:53:02 AM
look allyuh favorite PP celeb on power 102 now.

Wuh he doin? playin ah piano?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on March 01, 2011, 08:46:56 AM
look allyuh favorite PP celeb on power 102 now.

Wuh he doin? playin ah piano?

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: sammy on March 03, 2011, 06:23:42 AM
Look Thing if Marchel Win


AG: Machel has my vote for Soca Monarch
By Julien Neaves

Story Created: Mar 2, 2011 at 10:50 PM ECT

Story Updated: Mar 3, 2011 at 2:04 AM ECT

ATTORNEY General Anand Ramlogan says he would not be surprised if Machel Montano wins tomorrow's International Power Soca Monarch final and walks away with the $2 million prize offered by the Government.

"I wish him the very best of luck. He certainly has my vote," Ramlogan said while speaking in the Senate on Tuesday night as he introduced the Miscellaneous Provisions (Remand) Bill at the Red House, Port of Spain.

He recalled, on Monday night, he had the "good fortune" of attending Montano's concert, "The Return", at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Mucurapo.

Ramlogan described as a "very moving moment" the scenario when Montano brought on to the stage the world "king and queen" of calypso, Slinger Francisco, better known as "The Mighty Sparrow", and McArtha Linda Sandy-Lewis, better known as "Calypso Rose", respectively.

He recalled cutting out pictures of the two calypso icons to stick in his copybook with flour paste while he was in primary school. He noted they were honoured by Montano in front of almost 35,000 fans, and Calypso Rose broke down in tears.

Ramlogan pointed out what Montano did was demonstrate respect for elders and "a kind of caring and compassion that is sadly lacking in the youths" in this society.

"The extent to which Mr Montano was able to do that and to send a message that as a superstar and an icon...that this is what he stands for, I salute Machel Montano...for that gesture and for the powerful message it sends, and I say he is indeed worthy of emulation, and I hope that others will lead by example to mentor and set an example for our youths," Ramlogan said.

Montano returns to the Power Soca Monarch competition after a protracted absence.

Opposition Senator Fitzgerald Hinds, in his contribution, pointed out Montano had been seen in the company of Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and the United National Congress (UNC) "frequent times". He added there were some citizens who were saying the artiste had been sponsored by the Prime Minister and the UNC and was a "liming friend" with Persad-Bissessar.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on March 03, 2011, 10:01:05 AM
4 mil 4 Machel I would b surprise if dat eh d case.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on March 03, 2011, 12:27:50 PM
Anand was recently asking his Facebook "friends'" if they were aware of any articles that showed a link ot the death penalty and decreased crime.

Some AG that is!
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Dutty on March 03, 2011, 12:42:32 PM
Anand was recently asking his Facebook "friends'" if they were aware of any articles that showed a link ot the death penalty and decreased crime.

Some AG that is!

LOL!!
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on March 03, 2011, 01:25:20 PM
Anand was recently asking his Facebook "friends'" if they were aware of any articles that showed a link ot the death penalty and decreased crime.

Some AG that is!

D man is ah AC Ambulance Chaser not ah AG.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Die_Hard on March 03, 2011, 03:26:12 PM
Anand was recently asking his Facebook "friends'" if they were aware of any articles that showed a link ot the death penalty and decreased crime.

Some AG that is!

LOL!!

You know that I am serious right?  I have to ask because when I saw his requests on Facebook, it was so strange to me.  Incredulous at best.

This man was touted as one of the best young legal minds in T&T and now he is hustling legal precedence and studies on Facebook.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: truetrini on March 05, 2011, 08:45:07 PM
Anand backing Machel to win ting big and bold, yet as AG he eh know dat Machel have active case before de courts?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sam on April 21, 2011, 04:40:05 AM
Jack defends AG's 'New York' trip
By Anna Ramdass,


Armed with the travel itinerary of Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, Government Minister Jack Warner said yesterday he (Ramlogan) never went to New York and raised issues on race as Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley claimed.

"At no point in time did the AG ever go to New York ... and therefore when the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Diego Martin West send him to New York, Mr Speaker, and what he heard and did not hear, he was misleading the House," Warner said.

He raised the matter in his contribution to a private motion by the Opposition, which called on the House to reaffirm its collective commitment to the principles of fairness and meritocracy in the public service.

After reading out all of the AG's travels, which showed he did not visit New York, Warner asked that Rowley apologise to the House and the AG and withdraw his statements.

Rowley, however, refused to apologise.

"Mr Speaker in my presentation I was very careful to say what was told to me by staff at the mission where I went. If he looks at my itinerary he will see that I was at the mission with my colleague here and I reported to the House what I was told, what was said to me. What we have now, Mr Speaker, is a question of the veracity of what was said to me and that is where the matter lies," Rowley said.

"You not apologising? You have brought the AG into odium and disrepute!" shouted Government Minister Roodal Moonilal.

After an exchange of heated cross talk, Warner said, "Mr Speaker there are avenues for us to find redress."

Prior to this, Warner accused the PNM of practising the "politics of race". He said former prime minister Patrick Manning and Rowley owe this country an apology for promoting divisiveness through race.

Warner said if former Police Service chairman Nizam Mohammed was condemned for his comments on race, then so too must Rowley and Manning.

"I want to condemn the statements of the Member for San Fernando East, which he made at his meeting on April 11 with some failed politicians and I condemn very strongly the statement made by Diego Martin West member in 2003," Warner said.

He said Manning, on April 11, held a meeting in his constituency where he spoke about race relations, which offended numerous people. He added that in 2003 there was a programme which the PNM established in COSTAATT for males 17-34, targeting "Afro Trinidadian males".

Warner said both Manning and former Minister Conrad Enil said this was an error with respect to the targeted ethnic group, but Rowley maintained it was not.

Rowley interjected, saying that this was a pilot project which was started under the UNC and former Minister Manohar Ramsaran to examine at risk males in the East West Corridor.

Warner also took a jab at the PNM's split vote last Friday, where four members supported a private motion brought by Manning, five abstained and two were not present.

"The PNM is split in three ways, five with Diego Martin West, five with San Fernando East and two in the bathroom. Three ways. So don't tell me about unity!" Warner said.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on August 23, 2011, 08:47:30 PM
This DESERVES to be here....classic....

http://www.youtube.com/v/d2HRRhqwc1w&feature=player_embedded
Title: Akon Ramlogan
Post by: truetrini on September 02, 2011, 04:25:15 AM
Akon Ramlogan
Published: Fri, 2011-09-02 20:14
BC Pires
 

In 2007, the Sengalese-American hip hop star, Akon, put down an ordinary dutty wine on a teenaged girl in a Port-of-Spain nightclub and respectable T&T was horrified to the core that such a thing could happen; as if they don’t glance out of their car windows and see it every weekend night and all day Sunday. Play two notes of a drum-and-bass loop anywhere in Trinidad and, before the hi-hat can clash, you’ll have an instant passa-passa, including open displays of intimate depilation; I’ve seen, eight o’clock Sunday morning, at the side of an otherwise quiet country road, a small maxi, parked, blasting dancehall for the benefit, apparently, of the wild-meat of the area—which showed itself in the form of a glassy-eyed 40-something skettel with a beer in one hand, backing it up against a shirtless, drooling man chooking waist like a dog; Akon could take lessons from any Trini lime, anywhere; they are as proud to get on bad in Lange Park as in Laventy.

This week another local teenaged girl is in the spotlight on YouTube, but it’s her dirty mouth, not her dirty moves, that have outraged “decent” T&T. If you’ve not see the video by now, you need to upgrade your attention to September, 2011, or widen your e-mail circle. It features a 16-year-old girl—maybe a year or two older or younger—speaking direct to her computer camera in a foul-mouthed videoblog. The last film clip I saw with a comparable obscenity rate was Scarface (in which, the urban legend says, Al Pacino uses the eff-word 182 times, giving rise to the name of the pop rock band, Blink 182). The four-minute video is crammed with profanities directly addressed to Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, and is not shy of racist terms. But it is still plainly an attempt at humour; not a very successful one, perhaps, but nevertheless obviously intentioned as entertainment. Remove the effs and mother-cees—which are deliberately overdone, in an attempt to get the role right, because, when the teenager slips out of the aged woman character, she reverts to what you imagine is her normal “fricking”—and the Granny Quilla video is not so different from the very funny Trini Slap Chup infomercial voice-over (except, of course, that it doesn’t make you laugh).

It’s surprising how many supposedly intelligent grown-ups have not noticed that the entire video is called “Granny Quilla Spouts Abuse”: the young girl is “in character,” playing the part of an aged pensioner. Her performance is actually good and one or two of the bits are even clever. The whole thing fails because there isn’t a successful marriage of character with content, but it is failed comedy, not deliberate racism that is at play. Everyone scandalised by a young girl suggesting that maybe it was a mosquito that flew up the PM’s nether regions needs to step back and ask themselves if they really think she literally meant that. (Of course it’s a separate, and heartbreaking, discussion of what passes for “culture” and thought here.) The girl has posted an apology but she should never have; indeed, I’d have encouraged her to post another video: “Granny Quilla Tells All Them ------- to Firetruck Off.” No artist should be required to explain art. Like hundreds of thousands of her contemporaries across the Internet—including my own daughter and her friends—the girl was trying a thing using tools available in the IT Age to reflect the age she lives in.

With all the “nastiness” in the video, it was not itself nasty. Indeed, it parodies everyday life in Trinidad very well, for an unrehearsed live blog by a child, who has found out the hard way that not everyone has the talent, wit, scope of reference and high-speed comedic brain of Rachel Price, whose own vidblog inspired by the state of emergency is not short on effs itself (and features a topnotch rephrasing of a great David Rudder song in, “This is not a curfew in here/ This is madness”). Like Rachel Price, Martin Daly and other non-aligned commentators, Granny Quilla is actually discharging her civic responsibility in criticising the misuse of the most draconian powers of the republic in the very shoddy way they have been so far. The young girl should be praised, not pilloried. I’d rather my own daughter embarrass me for four minutes with her cussing on YouTube than shame me forever by not thinking at all about what’s going on around her. And what’s going on around Granny Quilla is shaming, not her, but the so-called adults of Trinidad. (Think about the name, “Granny Quilla” for Christ’s sake: it’s plainly mocking attitudes, not supporting them.)

In his worst public moment ever, the Attorney General has called for the young girl concerned to turn herself in and let the law take its course. What the firetruck is he going to charge her with? Being clever? Is that an admission that the People’s  Partnership requires stupidity as a qualification for membership?
The AG has not just prejudged a non-issue arising out of a YouTube video, he has prejudged it wrongly, and made himself look foolish in viewing comedy as sedition. If Granny Quilla has committed a crime, long live criminality, otherwise known as freedom of speech—a freedom the AG himself took to the extreme limits of taste in his own former Sunday Guardian column, in which he wrote lurid prose so purple it made baigan feel shame.

Like Akon in 2007, the person who has really done something wrong skips away from notice while all of Trinidad beats up on a little girl. The state of emergency is likely to be extended in Parliament today, causing more hardship on the law-abiding and not seeming to bother the law-breaking too much. For his sake, I hope Akon Ramlogan will not soon be required by AG Ramlogan to turn himself into the police to answer charges of how he and the People’s Partnership have squandered public goodwill to such an extent that the biggest criminal fish netted by a whole state of emergency is Granny-firetrucking-Quilla.

 BC Pires is a granny interlocutor. Read more of his writing at www.BCraw.com
Title: AG: PNM govt in backdoor borrowing
Post by: Controversial on September 11, 2011, 11:41:21 AM
Anand: PNM govt in backdoor borrowing

By Joel Julien - joel.julien@trinidadexpress.com


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Anand__PNM_govt_in_backdoor_borrowing-129601168.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Anand__PNM_govt_in_backdoor_borrowing-129601168.html)
 
SPECIAL multi-purpose State companies were created by the former People's National Movement (PNM) administration as a means to conduct "off the book" financial transactions and circumvent the bureaucratic oversight of the Public Service Commission, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan has said.
Ramlogan said between the period 2006-2010, the backdoor borrowing of the special multi-purpose State companies "rivalled and exceeded" the muti-billion dollar direct borrowing of the government.
"A total of $22.5 billion of indirect debt obligation existed, that is in addition of course to direct government borrowing. That was the off the book figures. And $20 billion was borrowed directly during the period 2006-2010," Ramlogan said.

"So the off the book borrowings rivalled and even exceeded the direct borrowing by the (then) government," he said.

Ramlogan made the statements in the Senate on Friday night during his contribution to the debate on the motion to increase the debt ceiling under the Guarantee of Loans Act.
He said due to the previous government's bad borrowing, the Peoples Partnership administration is now placed in a position where it needs to approach the Parliament to increase the debt ceiling in order to get some "financial latitude".

The increased debt ceiling would be a means of providing financial "elbow room" to the Government and would only be utilised "if or when it is required or needed", Ramlogan said.
"But let me tell you how monies was spent without coming to the Parliament for any approval. Borrowings took place, borrowings which would ultimately have to be paid by the taxpayers," he said.
Ramlogan then read from a document called "Contracted loans from State Enterprises from 2006-present".
According to the document, Ramlogan said the Urban Development Corporation of Trinidad and Tobago (UDeCOTT) borrowed $1.2 billion to design and construct the Government Campus Plaza, US$304.5 million for the Port of Spain waterfront and $497.3m for the Tarouba Stadium.

The Tourism Development Corporation (TDC) borrowed a total of US$18.4 million to charter three cruise ships for the two international conferences held here in 2009.
National Insurance Property Development Company (Nipdec) took a US$7 million loan to purchase 200 vehicles for the Summit of the Americas.
And the National Infrastructure Development Company (NIDCO) borrowed US$52 million and $153.8 million for expenses related to the Rapid Rail project.
"They wasted so much money on buildings and financing mega projects that the people neither asked for nor wanted," Ramlogan said.
He described the motion to increase the debt ceiling as "curtain raiser" and prelude to the upcoming national budget.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Tallman on December 30, 2011, 08:54:28 AM
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Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Trini _2026 on January 01, 2012, 07:16:36 AM
http://www.tntmirror.com/2011/12/30/loser-of-the-year

Home > Our Cover Story > Loser of the Year
Loser of the Year
By Maxie Cuffie - December 30th 2011 5:48 PM



Today the TnT Mirror presents its inaugural Loser of the Year Award to Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, the person who by word or deed, omission or commission, did the most to shatter our confidence in the future and pull Trinidad and Tobago down.

Over the last year Ramlogan, under whose portfolio the Anti-Corruption Investigations Bureau (ACIB) also falls, has:
* blundered his way through the failed extradition of businessmen Ishwar Galbaransingh and Steve Ferguson to the United States
* failed to ensure the prosecution of a single corruption allegation
* presided over the fiasco that was the implementation of the State of Emergency (SoE)
* passed an Anti-Gang Act that has proven to be so unworkable it led to the freeing of all persons arrested on such charges under the SoE
* hectored and threatened to arrest a 14-year-old schoolgirl over a prank
* presided over the most precipitous decline in Trinidad and Tobago’s Transparency International rating
* allowed the freeing of 16 persons accused in a plot to assassinate the Prime Minister.

And the list is not exhaustive.

Unknown to the public, Ramlogan began the year 2011 consummating the sale of his Irving Street, San Fernando office complex to the Radhaykissoon family of Charlieville in exchange for land in central and a condominium in Westmoorings, even as the Cabinet was preparing to approve the rental of the very property for $4 million over three years, at higher than market value.

The quixotic real estate transaction ostensibly above board, which was revealed by the TnT Mirror’s Editor Irene Medina, on July 24, was the type of deal which would have earned the condemnation of Ramlogan in his previous capacity as firebrand attorney. He however defended the deal as an arm’s length transaction in which he had no interest by the time the matter came to Cabinet for approval in February 2011.

On paper the AG started the year with a big personal loss, for the Mirror report showed that he had spent much of early 2010 attempting to get the PNM administration to rent the property but no sooner had the administration changed, and just as it was about to be rented by the Ministry of Works and Transport, he transferred ownership to the Charileville used car dealer.

But it was to be a busy year for the AG as the extradition matter involving businessmen and UNC financiers Ishwar Galbaransingh and Steve Ferguson which he inherited from his predecessor John Jeremie, remained a troubling issue. Both men were back in court along with their co-accused by the second week of January and although his predecessors had a 95 percent track record over the previous seven years, Ramlogan by the end of the year failed spectacularly to secure arguably the most important extradition matter on his desk and for which much of the ground work had already been done. To make matters worse, by the end of the year he was announcing that the Government would not be appealing the decision of Justice Ronnie Boodoosingh quashing the extradition of the two ruling party financiers and, as if to agree with them, suggested that Trinidad and Tobago was in fact the best forum for the charges.

The Ish and Steve judgment was, however, just the culmination of a string of failures during the year for the AG. Early in 2011 it became apparent that despite the appointment of the so-called ‘A-Team’ of expensive attorneys working with the ACIB to track corruption cases under the previous administration and racking up $15 million in fees, not one criminal case had been made out against anyone. Calder Hart, the primary focus of the investigations, continues to live it up in Miami with the police unable to acquire enough evidence to even require him to make himself available for questioning. In December ACIB officials were telling the Mirror that Hart’s case had grown cold and there was little likelihood of a charge far less a prosecution.

To compensate for the lack of success in the criminal prosecutions the AG shifted responsibility to the DPP and in June called a press conference to announce a series of civil lawsuits against former State officials and members of State boards. Similar announcements have been made about civil lawsuits against the Board of Udecott, eTeck and Petrotrin. At the time of the announcement not one case had been filed and it is still unclear whether any actions have been filed to this date. In the case of Hart who has disposed of his property and fled Trinidad and Tobago, there is very little likelihood of the State recovering anything, and the other cases which involve public servants and board directors, are not likely to fare much better.

But it was in the implementation of the State of Emergency that the AG was to display his greatest failures. The SoE was announced on August 21 without the proper legal framework having been put in place, so that the Prime Minister announced a limited SoE only to realise later that this could not be done. This was amended so that the SoE covered the entire country but the areas under curfew were limited.

The SoE began with the areas under curfew not defined, and with the Emergency Powers Regulations rehashed from previous declarations with restrictions (like on trade union activity) which bore no relevance to the assumed threat. Despite the arrest of 6,199 persons, with no significant criminals being charged or network disrupted, and all 236 persons arrested under the Anti-Gang Act having to be released, Ramlogan was still seeking to make the case that the SoE had been successful. The heavy murder toll for the month of December 2011, however, suggests otherwise.

As if the number of failed cases were not enough, the AG even threatened legal action against a 14-year-old girl who posted a foul-mouthed rant to YouTube as a prank. Fortunately, for him, the PM intervened to treat the matter as a parenting issue where it firmly belonged.

Given Ramlogan’s list of failures, and his portfolio responsibility for anti-corruption initiatives, it was no surprise that TnT dropped significantly in Transparency International’s Corruption Perception Index announced in late November. At the start of December 16 persons arrested the previous month under detention orders as part of a conspiracy to assassinate the PM and three Cabinet ministers, had to be freed for lack of evidence. It was a process over which the AG had again presided retaining counsel in Dana Seetahal SC.

For these reasons we at the Mirror have adjudged the Attorney General as the winner of our inaugural ‘Loser of the Year’ award.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on January 01, 2012, 08:46:29 AM
My word.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on January 01, 2012, 11:27:54 PM
My word.

ENTTTTTT

D list eh exhaustive
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: elan on January 12, 2012, 12:43:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/-Sy0axDeU_g&feature=related
Title: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan yesterday suggested
Post by: truetrini on February 15, 2012, 11:58:48 AM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Ex-judge-should-head-Integrity-Commission-139351708.html

Ex-judge should head Integrity Commission’

Story Created: Feb 15, 2012 at 9:23 AM ECT

Story Updated: Feb 15, 2012 at 9:23 AM ECT
Attorney General Anand Ramlogan yesterday suggested that a retired judge should be the head of the Integrity Commission.
Speaking with reporters at the Waterfront Parliament building in Port of Spain, the Attorney General said all the problems with the Integrity Commission had their genesis “in the failure of the PNM to have reappointed the late retired Justice (Gerard) Des Iles”.
“It seems to me that the error really has to do with the break with a fairly well-established tradition in going with someone of the stature of a retired judge,” he said. “It has always been the case that a retired judge or someone with a legal background would serve as chairman of that Commission.”
He recalled that the tradition was broken when businessman Gordon Deane was appointed. Recalling that the Opposition United National Congress (UNC) had objected vehemently when this happened, Ramlogan said the breaking of the convention started “an unfortunate trend”.
After Deane came John Martin, “which ended in a fiasco with the judgment of (Justice) Maureen Rajnath Lee which vindicated Keith Rowley and led to the subsequent retiring of the Commission. After that, Fr Charles and the plagiarism issue, then Eric St Cyr, another disaster, and now a media mogul (Ken Gordon).”
The Attorney General is also advising the Commissioner of Police to seek the advice of the Director of Public Prosecutions.
“I don’t know who the police sought their legal advice from... and perhaps he ought to seek the guidance of the DPP as to whether the facts as reported by Mr (Ken) Gordon (chairman of the Integrity Commission), even if they are admitted, whether they amount to a criminal offence,” Ramlogan said.
Referring to the Justice Jamadhar ruling, in a case that he (the Attorney General) fought for Chandresh Sharma in the High Court and the Court of Appeal, Ramlogan said: “What the learned judge said was that the secrecy provisions in the Integrity in Public Life Act and the focus and intention of the law [were] to protect the integrity of disclosures relating to the Declaration of Income and Assets and Liability of persons in public life and the investigation (of complaints) itself.
“An official disagreement among the commissioners may or may not fall into that category. I would not make any pronouncement on it. But what I say is that it gives rise to pause for cause and the need to have a moment of detached reflection before you go gung-ho ahead and investigate something that may not be a criminal offence.”
The Attorney General said the stakeout outside the home of Newsday reporter Andre Bagoo was most unfortunate. “There is a lot of crime in the country and there needs to be some prioritisation in the fight against crime. There is no need to stakeout Andre Bagoo’s home unless he is a suspect in the commission of a major criminal offence, which I understand he is not,” he said.
He said the act could erode public confidence in the Police Service because it gives the impression that the force and the coercive power of the police are being misused or being used disproportionately.
Ramlogan said the Cabinet note seeking to move the Anti-Corruption and Investigations Bureau (ACIB) from under the Office of the Attorney General and place it under the Police Service would be brought tomorrow at Cabinet’s regular meeting.
“It is a unit of the Police Service, it properly belongs to the Police Service and I want to see it go back there... It would be a powerful indication that this Government does not intend to engage in flexing of political muscle via the Police Service,” he said.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan yesterday suggested
Post by: truetrini on February 15, 2012, 11:59:31 AM
 The law says "The Chairman...shall be appointed by the President" after consultation with PM and Opposition Leader. If the PM had the power to appoint Chairman, why didn't the current UNC appoint an ex-judge as the AG suggests?

Anand more shit...why yuh doh hush yuh country bookie cyat hole?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan yesterday suggested
Post by: Jah Gol on February 15, 2012, 12:32:23 PM
Maybe a distinguished impartial guy like Volney should be appointed.  I hate how sacrosanct they think they are.

And yes TT the present government could have easily installed anyone they wanted. But of course they must blame the PNM at every turn. Jokers !
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan yesterday suggested
Post by: mal jeux on February 15, 2012, 01:45:24 PM
eat salt - WE WIN can do whatever we want! Who gives a fack about any president. his job is to eat,drink and fete for free.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on March 16, 2012, 11:10:23 PM
Deceased Govt-hired auditor paid over $18m
Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Deceased_Govt-hired__auditor_paid_over__18m-143021025.html

By Ria Taitt
March 16, 2012
Deceased British auditor Martin Hall of Alix Partners, of the so-called A-Team appointed by Attorney General Anand Ramlogan to investigate corrupt activities at several State agencies, received $18,290,492.48, Housing Minister Dr Roodal Moonilal told the House of Representatives yesterday.

He was responding on behalf of Attorney General Anand Ramlogan to a question filed by Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley.

In his statement at Tower D, Waterfront Centre, Port of Spain, Moonilal revealed the money paid between June 1, 2010 and January 31, 2012, to all members of the forensic team for the Cabinet-sanctioned probe.

British QC Allan Newman received $6,422,364.09; attorney, Akbar Ali $3,041,609.48 and attorney Gerald Ramdeen $1,193,090.00; Mark Seepersad- $356,666. Moonilal said no money was owed to any member of the team.

The team was commissioned by the Attorney General to investigate the operations of several State enterprises, including the University of Trinidad and Tobago (UTT); Petrotrin, The Sport Company of Trinidad and Tobago (SPorTT); Trinidad and Tobago Electricity Commission (T&TEC), the Evolving Tecknologies and Enterprise Development Co. Ltd (eTeck and the Scarborough Hospital) and the acquisition of four fast ferries.

Ramlogan had stated in August 2010 when he announced the team that the need for forensic audits stemmed from numerous claims of corruption received by government officials since assuming office after the May 24 general election.

Hall, 46, died on January 18, 2011 from heart failure while having dinner at a restaurant on Ariapita Avenue, Woodbrook.

So far, civil action has been filed against former officials of eTeck, Petrotrin and UTT.



—Ria Taitt
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on March 17, 2012, 12:50:07 AM
Good Lord!
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on March 28, 2012, 06:46:58 PM
I was trying to find the online version to this story but can't. 

Anand Ramlogan could take he firetrucking Green Paper and shove it up he arse!!  I will gather up as many as I can and start a big bon fire in mih yard and burn all ah dem!!!!!

Firetrucking disrpespectful country bookie!!!  And Ashworth Jack if you think you eh going in de fire too.....yuh have another think coming!!  Ah going home in 2013 just vote against you for this treachery!!!  You will probably still win in my area, but as long as the TOP/PP eh win the THA elections overall I good.....SHAME ON YOU ASHWORTH!!!.....

Ah goh explain why ah blasted vex in a next post.....let me just type up the story..... :cursing: :cursing: :banginghead:  :cursing: :pissedoff: :pissedoff:

Trinidad Express
Monday 26th March 2012
Page 7


Green Paper out for comment
SELF-GOV'T FOR TOBAGO


The Green Paper on Internal Self Government for Tobago has been completed and is being put out for public comment.  A release from the Office of the Attorney General yesterday stated that the Green Paper entitled "Towards Internal Self-Government for Tobago" would be made available to all member of the public.

With the Tobago House of Assembly election due next January, the Green Paper is expected to generate considerable interest.  The bill was drafted in consultation with Reginald Dumas and other prominent Tobagonians "who subscribed to the People's Partnership's vision of internal self-government for Tobago". the release stated.

"What is prepared is a profound change in the Constitution of Trinidad and Tobago.  It will affect the entire nation, not just a part of it and the entire nation (Trinidad and Tobago) must therefore have the opportunity to express its views,"  the release stated.

In its manifesto for the 2010 general election, the People Partnership committed itself to the achievement of autonomy or internal self-government for Tobago.  In that connection, it undertook once in government, "to bring to Parliament a Bill.........to give the Tobago House of Assembly (THA) executive and legislative authority for matters under the fifth schedule (of the 1996 THA Act) and other matters incidental thereto."  "By contrast, the PNM 2010 manifesto was completely silent on the issue," the release said.

Attorney General and legal adviser to the Cabinet, Anand Ramlogan caused a draft constitution (Amendment) Bill to be prepared to give effect to the People's Partnership pledge.  Given the national importance of the issue, a Green Paper, which would include the draft Bill as an appendix, has been prepared and published for the comments of the people of Trinidad and Tobago.

The Green Paper has already appeared in the Tobago News.  It will now be distributed throughout the country, including Tobago.  It is intended to make copies available at our health centres, hospitals, Warden Offices, banks, post offices, and other public buildings.

Members of the public would also be able to download a copy from the website of the Ministry of the Attorney General (effective Sunday March 18, 2012) at www.ag.gov.tt.

Once on the home page, please scroll down to the right side (bottom) to the icon entitled: THA GREEN PAPER, left click on the icon and the entire document comes up.

A deadline date of Friday June 29, 2012 has been set for the submission of views from the public.  Comments may be submitted in writing or electronically.  It is also proposed that during the period set for the submission of written or electronic comments, a neutral team will hold public meetings throughout the country to receive comments and answer questions on, and provide explanation of, matters in the Green Paper.

A Green Paper, which is a document containing suggestions and proposals for discussion and further recommendations, and which is therefore by no means a final document, will allow this democratic process to take place.

Once all comments have been received, the Government proposes to publish a White Paper containing its policy for Internal Governement for Tobago and draft legislation to implent that policy.  The Green Paper on Internal Self Government for Tobago was prepared by the Law Reform Commission.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on March 28, 2012, 07:37:19 PM
Heard about this. Ent a draft was already done..based on consultation with the general Tobago population...drafted by Russel Martineu (I think?) and submitted to the AG, PM and others to be brought to parliament? Which isnt what this Green Paper is?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on March 29, 2012, 05:13:06 AM
Dumas: Tobago self-government was my idea
...takes issue with AG's office taking credit for draft


By Elizabeth Williams Tobago Bureau

Former head of the Public Service Reginald Dumas has queried some of the information released on Monday by the Office of Attorney General Anand Ramlogan on the Green Paper entitled "Towards Internal Self-Government for Tobago".

He has taken issue with the AG stating, "The Attorney General, legal adviser to the Cabinet, caused a draft Constitution (Amendment) Bill to be prepared to give effect to Government policy."

The release further stated, "The Bill was drafted in consultation with Reginald Dumas and other prominent Tobagonians who subscribed to the People's Partnership's vision of internal self-government for Tobago." This, Dumas said, is incorrect.

"The initiative for this entire process came from me, and I was the one who phoned the Attorney General. This was in September of 2010," Dumas said.

Dumas said he made the call to the Attorney General on the morning of September 6, 2010, asking Ramlogan's assistance in the legal drafting of the docu ment. All ideas and the contents of the document came from Tobago.

"It was we who were the movers and shakers and drivers of this whole process. The person lent by him was simply putting things in a legal form," Dumas stressed.

Dumas said he wants no twisting of the truth in the entire process as it was his team that guided the Chief Parliamentary Council in the entire process. Visits were made between Trinidad and Tobago by all parties to ensure the ideas of Dumas's team were accurate.

"If it is anything, it is that the People's Partnership subscribes to my vision for internal self-government for Tobago because I have had this vision for decades, long before there was anything called a People's Partnership," Dumas said. He however gives the Attorney General full marks as he never made any attempts to interfere in the ongoing process.

In the People's Partnership's manifesto for the 2010 general election, on Page 63, the People's Partnership committed itself to the achievement of autonomy or internal self-government for Tobago. It undertook, once in Government, to "bring to the Parliament a Bill…to give the Tobago House of Assembly (THA) executive and legislative authority for matters under the fifth schedule (of the 1996 THA Act) and other matters incidental thereto."

By contrast, the People's National Movement's (PNM) 2010 manifesto was completely silent on the issue.

Dumas agreed that the Green Paper was by no means a final document. He said when former prime minister Patrick Manning was in power, at the Assembly Chamber in January 1992, he promised constitutional guarantees for Tobago, but the people of Tobago were still waiting.

A deadline date of Friday, June 29, 2012, has been set for the submission of views from the public; comments may be submitted in writing or electronically.

It is also proposed that during the period set for the submission of written or electronic comments, a neutral team will hold public meetings throughout the country to receive comments and answer questions on and provide explanations of matters in the Green Paper

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Dumas__Tobago_self-government_was_my_idea-144752755.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Dumas__Tobago_self-government_was_my_idea-144752755.html)
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on March 29, 2012, 05:14:30 AM
Heard about this. Ent a draft was already done..based on consultation with the general Tobago population...drafted by Russel Martineu (I think?) and submitted to the AG, PM and others to be brought to parliament? Which isnt what this Green Paper is?


No Bourbon, this Green Paper is not the draft based on the consultations of Tobagonians and dais why I vex!!!!  I will explain a bit later cuz ah in wuk now and eh want to lose mih job   :)

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on March 29, 2012, 02:17:46 PM
Heard about this. Ent a draft was already done..based on consultation with the general Tobago population...drafted by Russel Martineu (I think?) and submitted to the AG, PM and others to be brought to parliament? Which isnt what this Green Paper is?


No Bourbon, this Green Paper is not the draft based on the consultations of Tobagonians and dais why I vex!!!!  I will explain a bit later cuz ah in wuk now and eh want to lose mih job   :)




Right! Which IS NOT what this green paper is.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on March 29, 2012, 06:26:47 PM
This is the document that Tobagonians from all works of life, all across the political divide worked on for about four years.  The information in the Green Paper is included in the draft document below.  If I remember correctly, the difference between what the Green Paper is proposing and the draft below is the Green Paper is an amendment to the THA Act while the discussion paper below goes further and is asking for constitutional changes.  I have some other documents that further explains the situation but I have to email them to you.

Basically, this Green Paper is being bandied about as the document that was being worked on but it is not.  I don't even know who the "prominent Tobagonians" supposed to be and in any event like I said this is all contained in the document at this link....


http://tha.gov.tt/news/announcements/142-draft-discussion-paper-of-the-working-committee (http://tha.gov.tt/news/announcements/142-draft-discussion-paper-of-the-working-committee)

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on April 05, 2012, 07:38:50 AM
Fired SAUTT director refutes AG's claims
Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Fired_SAUTT_director_refutes_AG_s_claims-146206095.html

By Julien Neaves
April 4, 2012
FIRED director of the Special Anti-Crime Unit of Trinidad and Tobago (SAUTT) Brigadier Peter Joseph has fired back at Attorney General Anand Ramlogan and refuted the "serious allegations" made against him in Parliament last month.

Yesterday, during the sitting of the House of Representatives at Tower D of the Waterfront Centre in Port of Spain, House Speaker Wade Mark allowed a statement from Joseph, dated April 4, 2012, to be read into the parliamentary records by Clerk of the House Ralph Deonarine.

It was in response to statements made by Ramlogan in Parliament on March 9, 2012, in response to a question from Diego Martin West MP Dr Keith Rowley.

The Attorney General had alleged that while he was the head of SAUTT, Joseph had presided over financial irregularities and corruption.

In his statement, Joseph noted that the Attorney General listed several reasons for Cabinet's decision to terminate his appointment as SAUTT director, "including mismanagement, lack of performance and financial irregularities".

"However, none of these reasons were contained in the letter dated September 20, 2010, in which I was informed of Cabinet's decision to terminate my services. Indeed this letter provided no reasons for my dismissal," Joseph pointed out.

He said he received a letter, dated October 18, 2010, from National Security Minister Brigadier John Sandy, "thanking me for my services as director and commending me for my leadership, commitment to duty, devotion and selfless service to my country".

He noted that the Attorney General listed a number of serious allegations about his conduct "which are severely damaging to me and which were carried live on national television and internationally, on the Internet." The allegations were as follows:



• lack of transparency and financial irregularities under his management;



• projects were undertaken without the knowledge of the Finance Department and $41.8 million was paid into an operational contingency fund with no accountability;



• lack of transfer of expertise to locals;



• alleged failure to meet statutory obligations to pay income tax, national insurance and health surcharge;



• alleged theft of three containers of security equipment and an excavator.



On the transparency allegation, Joseph said during his tenure SAUTT followed "the same financial rules applicable to all arms of the Defence Force and protective services". He added that all projects undertaken conformed to tendering procedures as outlined in the Central Tenders Board Act.

He refuted the claims about the operational contingency fund, saying it was used in relation to intelligence work and for operational activities and "oversight was provided by the Agency Finance Manager and audited by the Agency Internal Auditor".

On the lack of transfer of expertise to locals, he reported that SAUTT officers of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service (TTPS), officers from the Defence Force, Prison Service, Customs and Excise and Immigration departments "all benefitted from investigative, intelligence and leadership courses conducted under the auspices of SAUTT".

On the statutory obligations claim, he reported that SAUTT had been advised that monies could not be paid to the Board of Inland Revenue or the National Insurance Board because the agency was a task force and, therefore, could not register with these institutions.

He said it was decided that the requisite amount would be retained, approximately 25 per cent of salaries, in a separate account and paid after requisite legislation for SAUTT was passed.

He "totally" refuted the claims about the containers and the excavator, stating there were no records of security equipment that had gone missing "at any time in the lifetime of SAUTT".

About the excavator, he reported that it was seized by the TTPS and left on SAUTT's compound, which is shared by the engineering battalion of the Trinidad and Tobago Regiment.

He added: "It was therefore not in the custody of SAUTT's evidence custodian."

He also refuted Ramlogan's allegation that SAUTT had employed people who had failed lie detector tests.

After he was fired by the current administration, Joseph successfully sued the State for wrongful dismissal and had been reportedly paid a substantial sum of money.

Ramlogan has said in Parliament that he cannot disclose the amount paid to Joseph because of a confidentiality provision in the agreement.

Following Joseph's statement, Mark read from a statement of his own, cautioning members about the abuse of Parliamentary privilege.

(See statement above.)

The following is the ruling by Speaker Wade Mark:

The opportunity to reply

Hon Members, free speech is the most important parliamentary privilege and members should be careful not to abuse it. In exercising this right of free speech, the individual member must be conscious of the importance for him or her to be trustworthy. It is the Member who ultimately will be judged by an increasingly critical public.
When a request for an opportunity to respond comes before a Speaker from a Member of the public, the Chair has to give the matter serious consideration and reflection since such a request touches the very essence of the privilege of freedom of speech that Members are guaranteed under the Constitution.
I have thoroughly researched this matter and I concur with the findings of a 1999 report of the Committee of Privileges of the House of Commons of the United Kingdom that there is no point in this privilege unless it provides guarantees against attempts from outside to control what members choose to say in the House.
However, Hon Members, privilege carries with it responsibilities as well as rights and those responsibilities have to be exercised not only within the rules laid down by the House, but in conformity with the standards this House expects of its members.
Hon Members, all of us will undoubtedly agree that irresponsible or reckless use of privilege can be prejudicial to the national interest, injure persons who have no recourse within this House and tarnish the dignity of all honourable Members as well as this House itself. However, the strongest safeguard against so-called abuses is the self-discipline of individual members.
Therefore, Hon Members, as Speaker, I propose to adopt the practice of the UK House of Commons and urge all Members to take steps, before making a potentially damaging accusation against a named individual, to ensure not only that evidence exists, but that it comes from a proven reliable source.
In case I am misunderstood, I am not suggesting that a Member needs to have evidence that would satisfy a court of law, but I am cautioning all Members to utter potentially damaging words on the basis of something firmer than mere rumour or supposition.
Hon Members, while in this case and in one other instance in the past, I have allowed an opportunity of reply to non-Members who wished to have their responses to statements made incorporated into the parliamentary record, I advise all to be mindful of the need to be responsible since it is not my intention to make such responses by non-members crystallise into settled practice in this House.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on April 05, 2012, 04:46:58 PM
That firetrucking country bookie dangerous......*smh*
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on April 05, 2012, 05:09:05 PM
I jam Wade Mark in the past but I'm happy that he allowed the statement to be read into hansard. Ramlogan has been egregious in his abuse of parliamentary privilege from day 1.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on April 05, 2012, 05:24:17 PM
I jam Wade Mark in the past but I'm happy that he allowed the statement to be read into hansard. Ramlogan has been egregious in his abuse of parliamentary privilege from day 1.

Why somebody doh test this Parliamentary privilege thing court??  Ah mean.....let it go all de way to massa court The Privy Council and see what happens........
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on April 05, 2012, 05:30:25 PM
I jam Wade Mark in the past but I'm happy that he allowed the statement to be read into hansard. Ramlogan has been egregious in his abuse of parliamentary privilege from day 1.

Why somebody doh test this Parliamentary privilege thing court??  Ah mean.....let it go all de way to massa court The Privy Council and see what happens........
The UNC are the ones anal sorry persistent enough to do that. In a case like this individual resource constraints may be an issue. 
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: congo on April 08, 2012, 09:36:56 AM
Veera Bhajan rejects Ramlogan’s offer
...refuses to be PR puppet

Young attorney Veera Bhajan has blanked Attorney General Anand Ramlogan’s offer to return to her job at his ministry. Ministry officials yesterday confirmed to Sunday Guardian that following the publication of Bhajan’s resignation, Ramlogan asked her to reconsider, however, Bhajan has refused.
 
The Hummingbird medallist shot into the spotlight, winning the hearts of many, after she soared to academic excellence despite being born with no arms. A close friend, who Bhajan confided in while at the central authority unit at the ministry, attempted to put pieces of the puzzle together when Sunday Guardian returned her telephone call on Friday.
 
“To be honest, what happened was long overdue. No matter what is offered to her, Veera would never come back to work at the ministry. I remember that Veera came to me on many occasions with tears in her eyes telling me how she felt. She felt like she was being used as a public relations puppet. Throughout the time she was there she always complained of not being respected for who she was,” her confidant revealed.
 
Explaining that Bhajan was only interested in excelling in her career despite being disabled, her former colleague revealed: “She got fed up of being at the beck and call of individuals. She repeatedly said that she studied for five years to become an attorney, not to enhance the image of anyone. It was a number of things that led to her decision. She could not deal with the publicity stunts anymore.”
 
According to her colleague, Bhajan wanted to throw in the towel after it was announced that she had asked Ramlogan to present her to the Bar. “She never got over where that story came from and things just continued going downhill after that. Veera was made to say things and be places that she did not want to be.
 
“She was even asked to be at the welcoming function for Project Runway winner Anya Ayoung-Chee. Veera did not understand why and blanked that function. “Every time we had functions she always had to be there; she was told what to say, and who to talk to. Even her speeches were written for her. She felt like her life was being controlled.
 
“We are talking about an educated person not being allowed to speak for herself so she decided she wanted out and called it a day.” Pointing out that circumstances have to be unbearable for an individual to quit a job and stay home, her colleague added: “Nobody gets up and walks out of a job without having somewhere else to go. There must be something that caused it.
 
“Veera was in the postgraduate programme earning a $6,000 salary. The money did not matter to her but she wanted to be herself and she was not afforded that opportunity. We truly miss working with her.”

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2012-04-08/veera-bhajan-rejects-ramlogan%E2%80%99s-offer

Shame, Shame, Shame, Shame........
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on April 09, 2012, 11:46:36 AM
This is a rhetorical question......nasty, firetrucking country bookie!!!

Can we trust this AG?
By Maxie Cuffie - April 8th 2012


AS much as she may favour him as one of her favourite ministers, the frequent altercations between Attorney General Anand Ramlogan SC and the truth should be of increasing concern to Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar.

Last Wednesday House Speaker Wade Mark allowed to be read into the Hansard records of the House of Representatives a statement by fired director of the Special Anti-crime Unit of Trinidad and Tobago (SAUTT) Col. Peter Joseph which refuted and contradicted a statement delivered to the House by the Attorney General just over a month ago. In his statement, Ramlogan accused Joseph and Sautt of major financial improprieties and alleged that these were the reasons for his removal as head of the organisation. According to Joseph’s response, however, not only did some of the improprieties never take place (like the disappearance of a million-dollar excavator said to be under SAUTT’s control) but many of them were blatant distortions of the facts.

Any attorney general must be aware, for example, that SAUTT, given that it was never a legally constituted body, would neither be able to make statutory deductions nor pay them to the relevant authorities, yet this was one of the planks on which Ramlogan had sought to demean Joseph’s stewardship of the organisation. We hold no brief for either Joseph or Sautt, which we agree was a still-to-be-justified unwelcome draw on the public purse. But that does not give the AG the authority to play fast and loose with the truth.

In facilitating the reading of Joseph’s response, Speaker Mark pointed out the potential for damage, not just to people’s reputation but the very credibility of the Parliament, when the integrity of its members is undermined.

Mark reminded the parliamentarians that “irresponsible or reckless use of privilege can be prejudicial to the national interest, injure persons who have no recourse within this House and tarnish the dignity of all honourable Members as well as this House itself. However, the strongest safeguard against so-called abuses is the self-discipline of individual members.”

In light of this latest Ramlogan incident, Mark urged “all Members to take steps, before making a potentially damaging accusation against a named individual, to ensure not only that evidence exists, but that it comes from a proven reliable source. In case I am misunderstood, I am not suggesting that a Member needs to have evidence that would satisfy a court of law, but I am cautioning all Members to utter potentially damaging words on the basis of something firmer than mere rumour or supposition.”

This is not the first time the AG has been found wanting in his statements to Parliament. He blotted his copybook early in his tenure when he attempted to insinuate that a grand piano had gone missing from the Prime Minister’s official residence when the previous occupant, San Fernando East MP Patrick Manning, moved out. That matter was subsequently resolved with the piano being found precisely where Manning claimed to have left it and the AG not able to provide any basis for his wild allegations.

The latest incident comes in the very week when the TnT Mirror exposed the fact that Veera Bhajan had walked away from her job at the Ministry of the Attorney General and has remained unemployed for five months rather than continue to work in an environment in which she felt her integrity was being compromised.

One of the issues, according to our report, was a claim by the AG that Bhajan had solicited his services via the social networking site Facebook to have her presented to the Bar. It was a claim which the AG made publicly and at the Divali Nagar site during the 2011 Divali celebrations. This is not a he said/she said issue and is an allegation which the AG can easily refute by presenting the evidence from his Facebook timeline.

Thus far, Ramlogan’s only response has been his platitudinous statements about Bhajan’s accomplishments and a suggestion that her comments on the reasons for leaving the Ministry were general and not specific.

While the incidents surrounding last year’s state of emergency and the Anti-Gang Act have raised questions on the competence of the AG, these general issues challenge his specific integrity.

They are issues over which the Prime Minister may wish to ponder.

http://www.tntmirror.com/2012/04/08/can-we-trust-this-ag (http://www.tntmirror.com/2012/04/08/can-we-trust-this-ag)
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on April 09, 2012, 12:03:42 PM
Anand hires nephew
AG’s relative also travelling abroad at State expense


ATTORNEY General Anand Ramlogan has hired his own nephew as his personal assistant, since he assumed office in May 2010, following the People’s Partnership victory at the polls, and like Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, the AG’s nephew accompanies him on his extensive foreign travel engagements.

TnT Mirror investigations have revealed that Varma Ramdhan, the son of Ramlogan’s sister Geeta Ramdhan, not only accompanies the Attorney General on his overseas travels but has also enjoyed the use of State-owned property at Flagstaff Villas and Federation Villas in St Clair, which are assigned to the AG.

Ramdhan, who attended ASJA Boy’s College in San Fernando, left school at 16 and was previously employed in a machine shop close to his family home in Jaisaree St, Claxton Bay, before being hired by his uncle the AG at 18. All ministers are entitled to a personal assistant on assuming office and the there are no qualifications required for the job, which carries a salary of $8,000.

According to informed sources, Ramdhan, who is referred to as “Little AG” by ministry staff, is continuously at the AG’s side and attends all functions with the AG as well as accompanying him on his international travel engagements. Thus far, his travels have taken him to London, the United States of America, Australia and across the Caribbean region, with a per diem arrangement as in the case of Vidwattie Newton, the PM’s sister.

Mirror’s investigations revealed that it has not previously been the practice for ministers to travel with personal assistants since protocol arrangements are normally handled by the Trinidad and Tobago High Commissions or Embassies when the minister is travelling.

The arrangement has caused concern among Ministry staffers and others in the know who have complained to the TnT Mirror.

“Since the AG is entitled to entertainment allowance from the official budget of the Ministry of the Attorney General, his nephew directly benefits because he is literally physically attached to the AG wherever he goes,” the source said, adding that “they are always eating out in the fine dining restaurants in Trinidad and Tobago.”

Sources close to the AG also point out that since Ramlogan’s entry into office, Varma and his mother Geeta have moved out of their modest Claxton Bay home and now reside in a two-storey house close to the AG’s home in Palmiste.

Not true at all.

“The Prime Minister is fully aware and approves of this arrangement because Anand will be accompanied by Varma when he visits the PM, and this is very frequent because they all fete and drink together,” the source said.

Ramdhan has confirmed to Mirror that the AG is his uncle, but dismissed allegations about extensive travels at the expense of the State, saying that he has only travelled “once with the AG in an official capacity,” since he has been on the job.

The grateful nephew explained that he does in fact travel and has travelled with the AG to several countries, but that had been happening since before Ramlogan was appointed Attorney General.

Saying he wanted to clarify the situation, Ramdhan said Ramlogan was more like a “father figure” in his life.

“My dad passed away when I was four years old and the AG was like my guardian, more like a father figure to me in my life and he always visited me and took an interest in my school. Whenever he travelled abroad with his family he would take me with them on holidays,” Ramdhan added.

He denies that he lives with Ramlogan at his official residences, adding that he still lives at Claxton Bay with his mother.

It was only recently that the Mirror reported on the unprecedented family arrangements at the PM’s official residence at St. Clair, where Persad-Bissessar’s sisters and nephews have taken up residence, while the PM spends most of her time at her private home in Philippine.

Mirror had also reported that in keeping with the family trend, the nephew of Local Government Minister Chandresh Sharma was appointed this country’s Ambassador to Washington, although having no diplomatic or government experience.

In fact, Dr. Neil Parsan is a medical doctor who managed to get the posting because of his uncle’s influence over the Prime Minister. Sharma has since denied any involvement in his nephew’s ambassadorial position. “He is a highly qualified professional,” he said.

There are similar arrangements in other ministries, where Ria Karim, daughter of Science, Technology and Tertiary Education Minister Fazal Karim, is an advisor to Energy Minister Kevin Ramnarine, as is Randy Ramadharsingh, brother of the Minister of the People and Social Development, Glenn Ramadharsingh.

http://www.tntmirror.com/2012/04/08/anand-hires-nephew (http://www.tntmirror.com/2012/04/08/anand-hires-nephew)
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on April 09, 2012, 12:08:42 PM
Only one response to all these allegations of family here, there and everywhere......

http://www.youtube.com/v/UPIY6vd2XyY
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: lefty on April 09, 2012, 12:13:04 PM
Ah could here d sycophants now

"At least dey eh hire dey wife"...............steups ..............ah waitin to hear d two tngue uncle fuuckers on here
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on April 09, 2012, 12:40:22 PM
Ah could here d sycophants now

"At least dey eh hire dey wife"...............steups ..............ah waitin to hear d two tngue uncle fuuckers on here

Dey eh posting much these days......its too much, even for the sycophants.....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: congo on April 09, 2012, 01:24:14 PM
How alluh could expect them to post? Is too much to keep up with. I don't even know what to respond to anymore. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: lefty on April 09, 2012, 01:37:25 PM
Ah could here d sycophants now

"At least dey eh hire dey wife"...............steups ..............ah waitin to hear d two tngue uncle fuuckers on here

Dey eh posting much these days......its too much, even for the sycophants.....


nah my ting is if yuh demanding integrity an good governance do it right through doh fuuckin hide when it eh suit yuh, all all ah we have to live here.......steups
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on April 09, 2012, 10:34:52 PM
Hiring yuh family as yuh P.A. eh new. D overseas travel and livin in govt quaters is PP in action.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Tallman on May 10, 2012, 11:30:08 AM
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Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: g on May 10, 2012, 01:10:53 PM
I dont have a problem with family hires as part of a Minister's personal staff. I belive they are allowed:
Personal Assistant
Personal Secretary
Personal Advisor (2)
Driver

This is under the direct perview of the Minister and he could hire who he want as long as that individual operates within the confines of their office.

Note that this is the ONLY kind of hire that is subject to a minister's discretion. I will give them that and that only.

Title: Anand hires nephew
Post by: zuluwarrior on July 24, 2012, 06:33:59 AM
nephew

Anand hires nephew

By Irene Medina - April 8th 2012 12:00 PM

AG's Assistant: Varma Ramdhan, the nephew of the Attorney General works as his personal assistant and accompanies him on overseas trips

AG’s relative also travelling abroad at State expense ATTORNEY General Anand Ramlogan has hired his own nephew as his personal assistant, since he assumed office in May 2010, following the People’s Partnership victory at the polls, and like Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, the AG’s nephew accompanies him on his extensive  read more…

AG’s relative also travelling abroad at State expense
 
ATTORNEY General Anand Ramlogan has hired his own nephew as his personal assistant, since he assumed office in May 2010, following the People’s Partnership victory at the polls, and like Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, the AG’s nephew accompanies him on his extensive foreign travel engagements.
 
TnT Mirror investigations have revealed that Varma Ramdhan, the son of Ramlogan’s sister Geeta Ramdhan, not only accompanies the Attorney General on his overseas travels but has also enjoyed the use of State-owned property at Flagstaff Villas and Federation Villas in St Clair, which are assigned to the AG.
 
Ramdhan, who attended ASJA Boy’s College in San Fernando, left school at 16 and was previously employed in a machine shop close to his family home in Jaisaree St, Claxton Bay, before being hired by his uncle the AG at 18. All ministers are entitled to a personal assistant on assuming office and the there are no qualifications required for the job, which carries a salary of $8,000.
 
According to informed sources, Ramdhan, who is referred to as “Little AG” by ministry staff, is continuously at the AG’s side and attends all functions with the AG as well as accompanying him on his international travel engagements. Thus far, his travels have taken him to London, the United States of America, Australia and across the Caribbean region, with a per diem arrangement as in the case of Vidwattie Newton, the PM’s sister.
 
Mirror’s investigations revealed that it has not previously been the practice for ministers to travel with personal assistants since protocol arrangements are normally handled by the Trinidad and Tobago High Commissions or Embassies when the minister is travelling.
 
The arrangement has caused concern among Ministry staffers and others in the know who have complained to the TnT Mirror.
 
“Since the AG is entitled to entertainment allowance from the official budget of the Ministry of the Attorney General, his nephew directly benefits because he is literally physically attached to the AG wherever he goes,” the source said, adding that “they are always eating out in the fine dining restaurants in Trinidad and Tobago.”
 
Sources close to the AG also point out that since Ramlogan’s entry into office, Varma and his mother Geeta have moved out of their modest Claxton Bay home and now reside in a two-storey house close to the AG’s home in Palmiste.
 
Not true at all.
 
“The Prime Minister is fully aware and approves of this arrangement because Anand will be accompanied by Varma when he visits the PM, and this is very frequent because they all fete and drink together,” the source said.
 
Ramdhan has confirmed to Mirror that the AG is his uncle, but dismissed allegations about extensive travels at the expense of the State, saying that he has only travelled “once with the AG in an official capacity,” since he has been on the job.
 
The grateful nephew explained that he does in fact travel and has travelled with the AG to several countries, but that had been happening since before Ramlogan was appointed Attorney General.
 
Saying he wanted to clarify the situation, Ramdhan said Ramlogan was more like a “father figure” in his life.
 
“My dad passed away when I was four years old and the AG was like my guardian, more like a father figure to me in my life and he always visited me and took an interest in my school. Whenever he travelled abroad with his family he would take me with them on holidays,” Ramdhan added.
 
He denies that he lives with Ramlogan at his official residences, adding that he still lives at Claxton Bay with his mother.
 
It was only recently that the Mirror reported on the unprecedented family arrangements at the PM’s official residence at St. Clair, where Persad-Bissessar’s sisters and nephews have taken up residence, while the PM spends most of her time at her private home in Philippine.
 
Mirror had also reported that in keeping with the family trend, the nephew of Local Government Minister Chandresh Sharma was appointed this country’s Ambassador to Washington, although having no diplomatic or government experience.
 
In fact, Dr. Neil Parsan is a medical doctor who managed to get the posting because of his uncle’s influence over the Prime Minister. Sharma has since denied any involvement in his nephew’s ambassadorial position. “He is a highly qualified professional,” he said.
 
There are similar arrangements in other ministries, where Ria Karim, daughter of Science, Technology and Tertiary Education Minister Fazal Karim, is an advisor to Energy Minister Kevin Ramnarine, as is Randy Ramadharsingh, brother of the Minister of the People and Social Development, Glenn Ramadharsingh.
I dont know if this was posted before ,if it was i will delete it .

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on July 24, 2012, 06:23:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/0d8FTPv955I
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Football supporter on July 24, 2012, 06:50:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/0d8FTPv955I

This is Colm Imbert - yes?  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on September 23, 2012, 05:42:21 AM
AG’s $3m townhouse
By Asha Javeed (Express).


Sep 22, 2012

Two months after he became Attorney General of Trinidad and Tobago, Anand Ramlogan secured a luxury townhouse at La Rive in Maraval.
It was priced at $3 million.

A mere three months later, in November 2010, he secured another at the Greens in Fairways, Maraval.

That one was priced at $1,750,000.

The properties were acquired through his investment company Celestial Investments Ltd in which Ramlogan and his wife Nalini are directors.
The company was set up on May 14, 2003 with the registered address of No 3 Harris Street, San Fernando.

However, the registered company does not show up in a search at the Companies Registry at the Ministry of Legal Affairs.

Instead, the company is registered as Celectial Investments Ltd on the ministry’s search engine.

It was served a notice by the Registrar General on February 11, 2011 for its failure to file annual returns with the Registrar of Companies.
The notice indicated that a penalty of $100 a month would be applied on the company and every director and officer who failed to deliver or file with the Registrar.

Notice was also given that in addition to the monetary penalties imposed, the company could have been struck off the Registrar of Companies for continued contravention of Section 194 (1) of the Act.

Yesterday, the Attorney General defended his purchase of the properties through his private company while serving as a Minister of Government.

With regard to the La Rive townhouse, he explained that he had paid some 90 per cent of the cost prior to his appointment in a “pay as you build concept”.

Asked by the Sunday Express about the source of the funds, Ramlogan argued that he was a successful attorney before he was catapulted into the AG’s chair.

He said he still had judgments in reserve pending before the Privy Council.
 
He explained he continued to receive outstanding legal fees from these matters.

“I am not unique in this regard. I have done work for which I am being paid,” he told the Sunday Express by phone.

He said when he was awarded cheques from the State he would staple a copy in his declaration forms. When asked about the scope of his investment company, he explained it was set up to conduct investments in his private capacity.

Asked why he chose to purchase the property through an investment company and not in his own name, Ramlogan responded: “The investment company is mine. There’s no big reason really.”

Pressed further on why the company was not in a blind trust, he said there were terms and conditions to the trust and he had nothing to hide.

“It never crossed my mind,” he said.

Former head of the public service Reginald Dumas said yesterday public figures securing their assets in a blind trust was prescribed in the code but it was not a law.

“The implication arises that he will continue to run it. From an ethical point of view, it is no different from Health Minister Fuad Khan’s choice between his Ministerial appointment or his private practice,” Dumas said yesterday during a brief telephone interview.

However, he observed, “If having been a minister, you are being paid for work done before, I can’t see anything wrong with that.”

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The AG’s million-dollar townhouse
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: D.H.W on September 23, 2012, 06:13:11 AM
While people house mashing up, being bulldozed and bun down, he buying up big house on the down low.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on September 23, 2012, 09:23:29 AM
before he was catapulted into the AG’s chair.

I like this line.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: congo on September 25, 2012, 03:03:07 PM
He say he was present for the meetings with Volney but he more versed in civil law so he left the talking and the law making to Volney. That's his excuse. This man is our Attorney General.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on September 25, 2012, 03:14:05 PM
He say he was present for the meetings with Volney but he more versed in civil law so he left the talking and the law making to Volney. That's his excuse. This man is our Attorney General.
So in he just admitted he's not qualified.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: rotatopoti3 on September 25, 2012, 05:14:41 PM
AG: Rowley afraid of pending legal matters
Guardian
Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Richard Lord
 
Attorney General Anand Ramlogan has dismissed calls for his resignation by tomorrow, saying Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley was running scared of the several legal matters against PNM party financiers. Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley issued a 72-hour ultimatum to Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar on Sunday for Ramlogan to be fired or face further action. But Ramlogan, when contacted for comment yesterday, said Rowley and the Opposition People’s National Movement were afraid of the many investigations being conducted against financiers of the party. He told the T&T Guardian he was “not going to allow him (Rowley) to use me as his political pawn so that he could feel good as the political leader of a party that has three factions.”
 
 
Ramlogan said Diego Martin North East MP, Colm Imbert, Rowley and former prime minister Patrick Manning were the leaders of the respective PNM factions. He said the People’s Partnership Government, led by Kamla Persad-Bissessar, was not about to. He said both Rowley and the PNM “are very worried because of the number of matters that are presently before the courts. Those matters before the courts right now go to the root and core of the PNM.” (See story at right) Ramlogan said the people against whom these matters were brought and were to be brought were financiers of the PNM. He said because those financiers were “finding themselves before the courts in civil, fraud and breach of fiduciary duty cases, they realise they need to target the Attorney General because I am taking action against them that they never thought (was) possible.”
 
 
He said Rowley’s call for his removal was “ a smear campaign designed to oust me from office by applying pressure so that they can get rid of these cases.” Ramlogan said the PNM knew  “these cases will lead to the downfall of the PNM because they will expose the corruption they were (allegedly) involved in over the last eight years while they were in office." He said that probably explains “why they voted for Section 34.” Ramlogan said the police investigations into the Landate Development Project in Tobago was as yet to be completed. The AG said Rowley must explain to the people of T&T “how the lands on which Landate was being developed was reclassified from agricultural lands to lands for residential use.”  He said Rowley must also “explain fully where the money came from to build that development project.” He said the technical breach in the matter of Landate by the Integrity Commission “is not the end of the matter. The police investigation into that matter is yet to be closed and that is a matter that can be confirmed by the DPP himself, “ he added. He said Rowley had more to worry about because he was struggling for his political survival.
 
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on September 25, 2012, 05:46:22 PM
What the hell has this man accomplished in his time in office thus far??  No seriously??  Other than make mischief and look for pianos that are hidden in plain sight, what has he done??  No really....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Tallman on September 25, 2012, 07:34:58 PM
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Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on September 25, 2012, 09:03:10 PM
He say he was present for the meetings with Volney but he more versed in civil law so he left the talking and the law making to Volney. That's his excuse. This man is our Attorney General.

He only now realized he was more versed in civil law?  How come he was leading de push to charge Hart and de gang members etc. He didn't realize his expertise was limited when he accepted the appointment?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on September 26, 2012, 06:19:43 AM
It good for all of we.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: lefty on September 26, 2012, 06:44:20 AM
d sad ting is it have people who goh buy dat hook line and sinker
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on September 26, 2012, 09:05:11 AM
It good for all of we.

SAY IT AGAIN WE MAKE AN AC D AG FYI AMBULANCE CHASER
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on September 26, 2012, 09:06:12 AM
d sad ting is it have people who goh buy dat hook line and sinker

We buy worse.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on September 27, 2012, 01:26:05 PM
AG sues ‘Guardian’
Trinidad Express

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan has sent a pre-action protocol letter to the Trinidad Guardian over an article published on September 11, in which it was suggested that he “ignored legal advice” tendered by Queen’s Counsel James Lewis that the State should appeal the High Court’s decision not to allow the extradition of Ishwar Galbansingh and Steve Ferguson.
The AG’s pre-action letter, which was signed by attorney Kelvin Ramkissoon, stated that the reporter  selectively chose parts of the Lewis advice, in the process “misrepresenting the true purport and intent thereof”. 
The pre-action procotol letter stated that the words contained in the Guardian article were libellous,  “maliciously published” and  “calculated to damage and defame my client in his professional and political reputation”.   
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on September 27, 2012, 01:50:07 PM
AG sues ‘Guardian’
Trinidad Express

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan has sent a pre-action protocol letter to the Trinidad Guardian over an article published on September 11, in which it was suggested that he “ignored legal advice” tendered by Queen’s Counsel James Lewis that the State should appeal the High Court’s decision not to allow the extradition of Ishwar Galbansingh and Steve Ferguson.
The AG’s pre-action letter, which was signed by attorney Kelvin Ramkissoon, stated that the reporter  selectively chose parts of the Lewis advice, in the process “misrepresenting the true purport and intent thereof”. 
The pre-action procotol letter stated that the words contained in the Guardian article were libellous,  “maliciously published” and  “calculated to damage and defame my client in his professional and political reputation”.   

He's great at civil law.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on October 03, 2012, 07:15:23 AM
The AG's responsibilities

Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/commentaries/The_AG_s_responsibilities-172211551.html
By Clarence Rambharat
October 1, 2012

On a positive note, the AG has an excellent record as a lawyer. His qualities as an illusionist are less established and he must put the anti-PNM corruption gimmicks aside and zero in on his responsibility for Section 34. This anti-PNM sideshow will not derail the Section 34 focus, but could actually jeopardise the lawsuits, permitting the "PNM financiers" to celebrate alongside those of the UNC.

But before we get to the AG's responsibility for Section 34, his contribution to the second reading of the Miscellaneous Provisions (Remand) Bill in the House of Representatives in January 2011 puts Section 34 in better light.

Though preliminary enquiries were not the subject of the Remand legislation, early in his contribution the AG told the House that, "we intend to bring a bill to abolish preliminary enquiries. If we do that we will immediately take away half of the workload of the magistrates' courts. This is an important change to the criminal procedure in the country. It is not a change that would affect substantive rights of the accused. We are simply changing the procedure and the process in the criminal justice system."

Now, 11 months before the bill for which he disclaims responsibility is laid, the AG is promoting the legislation, and assuring the House that it is simple legislation. By November 2011, disregarding the previous assurance, that bill contains Section 34 which is not a simple change to process and procedure. The Bill also gives new substantive rights to the Piarco accused, who also happen to be the AG's party's financiers, and this unfolds while the AG contemplates a related extradition appeal. What else creates a duty of honest disclosure to a Parliament in which the AG is highly regarded for his legal expertise, and relied upon for guidance on all aspects of law?

Coincidentally, the AG also says to the House, "all these cases we have had before the magistrates' courts for six, seven, eight, nine, 10 years—they have not reached a judge and jury as yet—would be cut out and could go straight to case flow, case management and then conduct the trial." The AG unwittingly stops at 10 years, 11 months before Section 34 appears in the Senate with a mysterious 10-year limitation period for non-exempt offences.

Against this backdrop, the AG now makes three claims: that the Administration of Justice (Indictable Proceedings) Act is criminal law; criminal law is not his area of expertise; and responsibility for this legislation was exclusive to the Minister of Justice.

These three assertions are incorrect.

First, the controversial legislation creates no criminal law offence, and while it deals with warrants, bail, jurisdiction and evidence, this is not core criminal law.

In any event, if this was criminal law, the AG has piloted and spoken at length on complex criminal law legislation, never indicating a lack of experience or expertise, and never suggesting the responsibility lay outside his office. Even before his appointment, the AG's newspaper articles demonstrate comfort with this area of law. A June 2009 article, "Towards swift justice", directs then AG Jeremie on the virtues of abolishing the preliminary enquiry system. And an October 2009 article titled, "A dangerous slogan", includes a reference to "Panday and the airport", and connects the administration of justice and "Political financiers and investors who, in their bid for power, made promises and accepted favours."

Further, during the period May 2010 to June 2011, when the AG suggests the Minister of Justice had exclusive responsibility for criminal legislation, the AG piloted and spoke on complex criminal legislation requiring more competence than the Act from which he distances himself. The AG piloted both the Anti-Gang and the Remand legislation, and his contributions lasted an hour apiece. These were detailed examinations of the criminal law provisions and the criminal justice system. In that contribution on the Remand legislation, the AG's impressive discourse detailed the criminal justice system, the various offences, and the administration of justice issues touched by the proposed change to the law. And, when the ex-Minister of Justice piloted the DNA legislation, the AG's contribution was another one-hour-long discourse, with the depth and detail typical of this AG.

It all points to one conclusion —that from appointment the AG has been ultimately responsible for legislation. Further, his intimate knowledge of the preliminary enquiries legislation; his assurance to the House 11 months before the bill was laid; and his deep involvement with the Piarco cases, all create unquestionable responsibility which convenience does not displace. And if the AG stuck to his claim on the 2010 assignment of criminal legislation to the Minister of Justice, that ended in June 2011.

A larger issue is that it is difficult to accept that a PM can outsource the AG's core constitutional responsibility for legislation and law, and specifically, that an AG can pick and choose the matters within the legislative agenda for which that office will accept responsibility. For sure, this AG cannot be suggesting, for example, that when ex-Minister John Sandy piloted various criminal law bills, including the Interception of Communications Act and toxin weapons legislation, he did so without the AG's intimate involvement, oversight, and ultimate responsibility. That would be fraught with constitutional problems.

And there are more problems ahead. In the height of the Section 34 scandal which likely allows the Piarco defendants to go free, there are issues with other matters in the AG's hands. With reference to lawsuits styled as breaches of fiduciary duties, the AG recently described the suits as targeted PNM litigation, a war on PNM financiers and the core of the PNM. If these statements, since repeated on a political platform, are put before a civil court, success of the lawsuits could be jeopardised. A court may well consider this to be vexatious litigation.

On the positive side, when that time comes, the AG can rely on his exceptional civil litigation record, and failing that, on his developing practice as an illusionist.


Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 03, 2012, 09:43:52 AM
Best yet from Clarence Rambharat... somebody please help Anand find he ball.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on October 15, 2012, 06:49:28 AM
AG: I did not tell Ish and Steve

Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/AG__I_did_not_tell__Ish_and_Steve-174127831.html
By Keino Swamber keino.swamber@trinidadexpress.com
October 14, 2012

ATTORNEY General Anand Ramlogan said yesterday that he feels compelled to clear the air on the perception, by some, that he may have leaked, to businessmen Ishwar Galbaransingh and Steve Ferguson, information about the now repealed Section 34 of the Administration of Justice (Indictable Proceedings) Act before the Legal Notice was published.

In a statement issued yesterday, Ramlogan responded to a statement made by Independent Senator Corrine Baptiste-McKnight at a panel discussion at the UWI St Augustine campus on October 3.

Baptiste-McKnight told the audience: "I went down to the Gazette office to get a copy of the Legal Notice concerning this proclamation. The Legal Notice is dated September 10. How come some people know to go before the Judge and put in an application before the Legal Notice was published?"

In his statement yesterday, Ramlogan said Baptiste-McKnight got her facts wrong. He said the Legal Notice was actually published on August 30 and was therefore public knowledge at that time.

"I was disturbed by the dark insinuation that these particular defendants had 'insider information' about the early proclamation of Section 34 which they exploited to their benefit," Ramlogan said.

"Unfortunately, the learned Senator got her facts wrong and hence posed a dangerous rhetorical question pregnant with conspirational implications. No one in the media bothered to verify if what she said was in fact correct."

Ramlogan said he did not intend to comment further on the issue because he accepts that mistakes are made and that Baptiste-McKnight was probably caught up in the heat of the debate and perhaps made an honest error.

"I am, however, compelled to clear the air in the face of the clear insinuation that I could be among those who might have 'leaked' this secret information to these businessmen.

"Legal Notice No. 348, which dealt with the proclamation of Section 34 was in fact published on August 30th, 2012. The applications by Galbaransingh and Ferguson were filed on September 10. It is therefore patently false and untrue to suggest that they were able to file their applications before the Legal Notice was published."

Ramlogan said the Legal Notice, once published, is available to anyone from the Government Printery.

"One may well ask however, 'How is it that these defendants knew to even go to the printer to request copies ?'. The answer may well lie in the fact that it was well-publicised by the media, for example, the front page story of the Express on September 1st (with the headline) "President Moves to End Preliminary Enquiries".

"I have no doubt that Senator Mc Knight was not deliberately misleading her audience but made an honest error."

The proclamation of Section 34, on August 30 by President George Maxwell Richards paved the way for persons to apply to a judge to have their matters dismissed, if they were charged with an offence committed more than ten years before and not prosecuted.

Parliament has since voted to repeal the Act.

Many observers believed, however, that the law was tailor made for the accused charged in the Piarco Airport corruption case.

Contacted by the Express yesterday, Baptiste-McKnight said she was standing by her statement.

She said the first time the public had access to the Gazette or Legal Notice was when it was published on the Government's website.

"Unless you know to go down to the Government Printery and purchase a copy of the Gazette or Legal Notice, you check on the website and when it comes up on the website there it is," Baptiste McKnight said.

Told that Ramlogan was asserting that the date on the Legal Notice was August 30, Baptiste-McKnight asked: "Published means what ? That the public had access to it on that date ? My point is that I had no access to it until the day that I went down there because it was not published on the net before that."

Asked by the Express if that's the only time one could consider a Legal Notice to be published, she responded: "Not published per se, but when people have access to it. I only had access to it on (September) 10th when I went down there and when it was published on the net."

She said Ramlogan, as an attorney previously in private practice, may have known how to source information from the Government Printery about Legal Notices before they were published on the website.

"But not being a lawyer, I don't know."
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: MEP on October 15, 2012, 08:52:46 AM
Ent he is the same one who changed the gov't lawyers in the case against Ish and Steve....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on October 15, 2012, 09:11:37 AM
Ent he is the same one who changed the gov't lawyers in the case against Ish and Steve....


Dese unfortunate sequences of events making it seem like dis poor unlucky fella have some kinda sinister motives and hand in dis whole saga. De poor fella eh even no expert in criminal law..how he go know all dem so called loophole? Obviously steve and ish lawyers have a very good obeah man...or real good friends with max richards and ting to know this was signed and proclaimed on Aug 31...to reach in the court bright and early monday morning to start dis up.


Poor Anand.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: pardners on October 15, 2012, 12:42:54 PM
Ent he is the same one who changed the gov't lawyers in the case against Ish and Steve....


Dese unfortunate sequences of events making it seem like dis poor unlucky fella have some kinda sinister motives and hand in dis whole saga. De poor fella eh even no expert in criminal law..how he go know all dem so called loophole? Obviously steve and ish lawyers have a very good obeah man...or real good friends with max richards and ting to know this was signed and proclaimed on Aug 31...to reach in the court bright and early monday morning to start dis up.


Poor Anand.

It really baffles me to think that he could say the thing was published on the same day it was supposed to have been proclaimed  :banginghead:

But I not blaming the AG for letting the cat out the bag...Volney is the man who was drinking champagne with Ish in his hotel in Tobago the same time the Act was being proclaimed.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on October 18, 2012, 03:31:11 AM
$500M GOLD RUSH
By Andre Bagoo (Newsday).
Thursday, October 18 2012


THE STATE, and specifically the Central Bank, spent approximately $500 million in fees for lawyers, investigators and consultants between October 2007 and July 2012, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan said yesterday, as he sought to lay bare the extent of fees funded by the taxpayer.

As he attacked what he called the “gold rush” of opportunism triggered by a lack of proper systems to gauge value for money under the previous administration, Ramlogan revealed costs which straddled both the last administration and the present. He noted the last administration had sought to suppress the disclosure of legal fees to the Parliament.

The Attorney General said:

* Total legal fees paid to local and foreign counsel by the Central Bank during the period October 2007 to July 2012 was $113 million;

* Total legal fees paid to local and foreign Counsel by the Central Bank in relation to CL Financial during the period October 2008 to July 2012 was $103 million;

* A total of $82.8 million in fees were paid by the Central Bank to Canadian forensic investigator Bob Lindquist;

* Total legal fees paid to local and foreign counsel by the Central Bank in relation to the Commission of Inquiry into Clico and Hindu Credit Union (HCU) during the period Oct 2010 to July 2012 was $32.5 million;

* Total legal fees paid to local and foreign counsel by the Central Bank “in relation to fraud on the public” during the period October 2010 to July 2012 was $57 million.

* There was also a bill of $82 million for consultants.

Ramlogan also said the Ministry of the Attorney General had to pay out $30 million during the last financial year in inherited bills. The Attorney General also said he inherited 24 other bills totalling $8.4 million as well as an $11.5 million bill from the quashed BAE Offshore Patrol Vessel contract. These figures are in addition to a total of $84 million paid by the Ministry of the Attorney General for legal fees from 2001 to 2010.

Ramlogan, on the defensive ahead of a planned motion of censure due later this month, said the systems inherited from the PNM in relation to how the State ordered its legal affairs were lacking.

“What this administration inherited can best be likened to the California gold rush in the late nineteenth century: there was an absence of process, procedures and systems. There was no proper structure, so persons were easily exploited as a result,” he said during the Budget debate.

In relation to the fees paid by the Central Bank under former Governor Ewart Williams, he read out a list of the top seven fee-earners for the period 2007 to 2012.

These included Reginald Armour SC ($17. 7 million); Araujo Law ($11.5 million); Ian Benjamin ($9.3 million); Lydia Mendonca and Co ($4.2 million); Pollonais, Blanc, de la Bastide and Jacelon ($3.4 million); Sherry-Ann Bachew-Rudd ($2.5 million) and Mair and Company ($1 million).

“The grand total of legal fees for the Central Bank for that period was $305 million,” Ramlogan said. “You could have built a new hospital with that.”

Ramlogan did not say what was the nature of the work funded by the Central Bank or indicate if the work was in the public interest. He made no allegations of wrong-doing.

Armour represents the Commissioner for Cooperative Development at the Clico Commission of Inquiry and has also provided legal services for President George Maxwell-Richards.

Ramlogan noted that he was once in private practice bringing lawsuits against the State and he now realises the extent to which he was underpaid.

“I am now seeing what they were paying the people against me in cases that I won. And I think I was underpaid!” he exclaimed. “When I am being criticised for the amount of money the Attorney General is receiving given the vast magnitude that is being undertaken when you hear these figures, what would you say now?”

The Attorney General’s ministry was allocated $95 million for the year for fees. This breaks down to forensic investigation fees ($49 million); retainers for local and foreign attorneys ($34 million) and expenses of overseas counsel and foreign witnesses ($3 million).

Ramlogan also told senators of a plan for the State to build a new south branch of his ministry, meant to house an office for the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) and to offer services to the southern community. The cost of this has been estimated in budget documents at about $10 million.

“I think it will be a signature building that will serve south Trinidad,” Ramlogan said. “It will give the DPP’s office a dignified space in south Trinidad.”

The office of the DPP falls under the administrative remit of the Ministry of the Attorney General, a post which itself once held prosecutorial powers pre-1976.

Ramlogan also said Petrotrin has won $57 million in damages from Fluor Daniel South America Limited in a case at the International Court of Arbitration.

He said the State has also entered into a $315 million settlement in relation to a US$300 million claim made by Trinidad Energy Limited. He said $1 billion is needed to complete the Government Campus Plaza at downtown Port-of-Spain
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on October 18, 2012, 03:37:16 AM
AG: $143m Tobago complex deal for DPP
By Gail Alexander (Guardian).


Government is initiating legal action against the Tobago House of Assembly’s (THA) Chief Secretary Orville London and the THA for use of the build own lease transfer (BOLT) process for the THA’s Milshirv administrative complex, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan said yesterday.

Speaking in the Senate, Ramlogan said he also was referring the matter to the Integrity Commission, the Director of Public Prosecutions and the acting Police Commissioner for an immediate urgent criminal probe against London to see if there was misconduct in public office by “entering into sweetheart deals under the table.”

Ramlogan added: “There are things about this from the start. However, you twist, turn it or dice it, it reeks of corruption.” The $143 million complex has been the focus in recent weeks of Government’s concern about the process used. Government claims the THA used a BOLT process in contravention of the THA Act, which requires approval from  the Finance Minister for borrowing.

Last weekend, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar demanded answers from London on the project as she launched the Tobago Organisation of People’s (TOP) THA election campaign. TOP is a PP member.

Yesterday, Ramlogan said: “I have advised the Minister of Finance to bring a claim and file legal action against Orville London and the THA to seek declaration from the court that Section 51 was violated and the actions of London and the THA were illegal in entering into that BOLT arrangement for the Milshirv complex.

“Mr London had no legal authority to bypass the Finance Minister and enter that BOLT arrangement. If we allow this precedent to be set, T&T does so at great risk and peril.” Ramlogan said provisions were set out to seek the Finance Minister’s permission because the latter would need to know his liability and other aspects of the finance  when planning his budgets. Ramlogan said if the minister was not told, he would be budgeting on a false premise.

He said a disingenuous financial device could not be used to get around provisions and avoid the law. He added if London had no legal authority to enter the transaction, it may well be illegal and null and that “ pernicious and oppressive agreement” might yet be voided.

Saying there were many questions on the issue, Ramlogan said development should not be at taxpayers’ expense. Noting London had said there was no tendering or public advertisement, Ramlogan  queried how the developer had known to approach the THA with the proposals for the office complex in the first  place.

“It’s a strange case of political telepathy. Something is terribly wrong,” Ramlogan added. He asked if it was true once the lease was done, London immediately paid 18 months’ rent, $21.64 million, through FCB, to the developer. He said if the company had folded, the money would have been lost. 

PNM Senator Fitzgerald Hinds, who spoke after Ramlogan, said the Government was initiating the court action against THA’s London to stymie the process since the PP  knew there was a THA election in the air and was upset at PNM’s progress. Hinds said the AG would know the DPP did not investigate matters but the police did. He said London already had said he would be open to any probe of the matter.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on October 18, 2012, 05:01:38 AM
Ent he is the same one who changed the gov't lawyers in the case against Ish and Steve....


Dese unfortunate sequences of events making it seem like dis poor unlucky fella have some kinda sinister motives and hand in dis whole saga. De poor fella eh even no expert in criminal law..how he go know all dem so called loophole? Obviously steve and ish lawyers have a very good obeah man...or real good friends with max richards and ting to know this was signed and proclaimed on Aug 31...to reach in the court bright and early monday morning to start dis up.


Poor Anand.

It really baffles me to think that he could say the thing was published on the same day it was supposed to have been proclaimed  :banginghead:

But I not blaming the AG for letting the cat out the bag...Volney is the man who was drinking champagne with Ish in his hotel in Tobago the same time the Act was being proclaimed.

And Anand was knocking back a few with Carlos John the next night......not sure what was the contents of their glasses.....either way we screwed like a mudder......
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on October 18, 2012, 06:47:20 AM
I just getting a vibe that Anand bussing up he mouth again.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on October 21, 2012, 05:12:32 PM
Ramlogan: I was not aware




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When he made his allegations of wrongdoing against the THA and Chief Secretary Orville London in the Senate, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan said he was "not aware" that legal advice was sought on the matter from Hamel-Smith and Company, and that the acting President had signed off on the matter.
 
"I was not aware, that's why (tomorrow) morning the Minister of Finance will write to Mr London, with the hope that he will make a full disclosure of all the relevant documents.
 
"He will request certain critical information pertaining to the transaction," the AG said yesterday.
 
He added that the delay in contacting London was due to the fact that Finance Minister Larry Howai was tied up in the Parliament up until last Friday.
 
"Thus far, Mr London has not really disclosed the documents of the transactions to the Ministry of Finance and we want to make sure we have all the relevant information before proceeding further with the matter," he explained.
 
"The THA Chief Secretary claimed that he has nothing to hide and in the public interest it is hoped that he will make full disclosure to the Minister of Finance," Ramlogan added.
 
Tomorrow as well, Ramlogan said the Finance Minister will write to Director of Public Prosecutions Roger Gaspard, acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams and the Integrity Commission on the matter.
 
"We want to make sure we have all the information," he said.

Last Wednesday in the Upper House, Ramlogan said he had already referred the matter to the three for action.


Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: pardners on October 23, 2012, 08:22:05 AM
Ramlogan: I was not aware




Story Created: Oct 20, 2012 at 10:54 PM ECT
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Story Updated: Oct 20, 2012 at 10:54 PM ECT )


When he made his allegations of wrongdoing against the THA and Chief Secretary Orville London in the Senate, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan said he was "not aware" that legal advice was sought on the matter from Hamel-Smith and Company, and that the acting President had signed off on the matter.
 
"I was not aware, that's why (tomorrow) morning the Minister of Finance will write to Mr London, with the hope that he will make a full disclosure of all the relevant documents.
 
"He will request certain critical information pertaining to the transaction," the AG said yesterday.
 
He added that the delay in contacting London was due to the fact that Finance Minister Larry Howai was tied up in the Parliament up until last Friday.
 
"Thus far, Mr London has not really disclosed the documents of the transactions to the Ministry of Finance and we want to make sure we have all the relevant information before proceeding further with the matter," he explained.
 
"The THA Chief Secretary claimed that he has nothing to hide and in the public interest it is hoped that he will make full disclosure to the Minister of Finance," Ramlogan added.
 
Tomorrow as well, Ramlogan said the Finance Minister will write to Director of Public Prosecutions Roger Gaspard, acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams and the Integrity Commission on the matter.
 
"We want to make sure we have all the information," he said.

Last Wednesday in the Upper House, Ramlogan said he had already referred the matter to the three for action.




Notice any similarity with the AG's comments and his other two loquacious peers ?
...and I'm paraphrasing here...

Jack : I HAVE instructed the police to not to release any statistics on murders.....
Jack : I want to state categorically that I never instructed the police to withold any stats on murders....

Anil : What I have here is the only document received by the The Ministry of Sport a statement from Tony Harford, which mentions using funds up to $5.6M...where the rest of the money gone ?
Anil (in the same document...)  This document also shows Mr. Harford paid himself $0.9M...himself paid himself. (The funny thing is that 0.9M was only disclosed in the final statement)  :-\

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on October 23, 2012, 08:58:09 AM
Ramlogan: I was not aware




Story Created: Oct 20, 2012 at 10:54 PM ECT
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Story Updated: Oct 20, 2012 at 10:54 PM ECT )


When he made his allegations of wrongdoing against the THA and Chief Secretary Orville London in the Senate, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan said he was "not aware" that legal advice was sought on the matter from Hamel-Smith and Company, and that the acting President had signed off on the matter.
 
"I was not aware, that's why (tomorrow) morning the Minister of Finance will write to Mr London, with the hope that he will make a full disclosure of all the relevant documents.
 
"He will request certain critical information pertaining to the transaction," the AG said yesterday.
 
He added that the delay in contacting London was due to the fact that Finance Minister Larry Howai was tied up in the Parliament up until last Friday.
 
"Thus far, Mr London has not really disclosed the documents of the transactions to the Ministry of Finance and we want to make sure we have all the relevant information before proceeding further with the matter," he explained.
 
"The THA Chief Secretary claimed that he has nothing to hide and in the public interest it is hoped that he will make full disclosure to the Minister of Finance," Ramlogan added.
 
Tomorrow as well, Ramlogan said the Finance Minister will write to Director of Public Prosecutions Roger Gaspard, acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams and the Integrity Commission on the matter.
 
"We want to make sure we have all the information," he said.

Last Wednesday in the Upper House, Ramlogan said he had already referred the matter to the three for action.



You can't even believe announcements made by this guy.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: g on October 28, 2012, 06:19:22 AM
AG requests $1.3b to settle OPV arbitration

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan has gone to Cabinet requesting $1.3 billion for a settlement with respect to the cancellation of the three offshore patrol vessels (OPVs). Meanwhile the arbitration over the OPVs is still ongoing. The Sunday Guardian was informed that on Thursday Ramlogan took a note to Cabinet seeking approval for the money and that the matter was considered.
 
Sources said during the Cabinet meeting, which was held on Thursday and chaired by Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Dookeran—in the absence of Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar—the matter was deferred to next week, when a decision is expected to be made.
 
When the matter was brought before Cabinet some ministers raised concerns about it, while others openly objected as they questioned why the payment should be approved, since the arbitration was still in progress. At least three ministers were reportedly vocal during the meeting, questioning the haste and timing of the request.

The meeting got so heated, sources said, that Dookeran walked out, saying he wanted no part of the decision to make the money available. When contacted, some Cabinet ministers confirmed the decision, but refused to go on record when questions were posed to them.
 
One minister said, “I am not allowed to speak on that issue, that is prejudicing the interest of the country. The process is still ongoing and such a report will prejudice the matter.” Another minister said, “Not me and that matter, nah. Ask me anything else. I have nothing to say on that issue. Leave me out of that matter.”
 
One irate Cabinet source questioned why the Government would want to pay $1.3 billion in arbitration fees rather than paying $1.5 billion for the three OPVs instead.
 
AG: Where did you hear that?
Contacted on Friday night and asked about the status of the OPV arbitration, Ramlogan said, “I don’t know.” Asked about the request to Cabinet for $1.3 billion, the AG laughed, saying, “Where did you hear that?” Saying he was in the middle of a break since the censure motion against him was in progress in Parliament, Ramlogan said he needed to return to the chamber and listen to what was taking place.
 
On October 17, during the budget debate, Ramlogan said he had been micromanaging the OPV issue and described the arbitration as “massive.” He had said the impact of the possible loss of this or other arbitration cases could leave T&T’s economy “reeling” and “catapult T&T downwards.”
 
Ramlogan’s statement on OPV arbitration
On June 15, 2012, Ramlogan issued a media release chastising statements by Opposition MP Colm Imbert. Imbert, in statements to the media, had said the Government had lost the OPV arbitration and was in fact liable to pay millions of dollars to British defence manufacturer, BAE Systems.
 
Ramlogan, in his release. said Imbert’s claims were “totally mischievous and completely false.
 
“It is, quite frankly, a reckless statement which bears absolutely no resemblance to the truth. In fact, the arbitration hearings have not yet been completed, with the parties scheduled to make their respective closing submissions to the Arbitration Tribunal later this month. Furthermore, the hearings have been in relation to liability only thus far, and the dates for the hearings on quantum are still to be finalised.
 
“In the circumstances, the statement of Mr Imbert that the GORTT is liable to pay money to BAE is simply ludicrous and a pathetic attempt to deflect public scrutiny away from his role in the purchase of the water taxis.
 
“Nevertheless, in stark contrast to the Opposition’s modus operandi in dealing with all matters of national importance, this Government shall continue to act responsibly in this matter and refrain from making any further comment at this time in relation to a legal dispute in which a decision has not yet been delivered.”
 
 
Griffith, AG travelled for talks with BAE Systems
On July 21, 2011, national security adviser Gary Griffith and Ramlogan travelled to England for arbitration talks with BAE Systems. Ramlogan and Griffith were invited by BAE Systems to have the arbitration talks with respect to the Government’s cancellation of three OPVs from the company.
 
In April 2007, BAE was awarded the contract to build, integrate, test and commission three OPVs for the TT Coast Guard. Construction began January, 2008. However, in September 2010, Persad-Bissessar announced that Government had decided to cancel the three OPVs ordered by the PNM administration at a cost of $1.5 billion. Notice of the cancellation was served on September 17 last year.
 
The Government said the decision to terminate the contract was due to persistent delays and technical deficiencies.
 
Brig John Sandy’s response
On October 25, 2011, then National Security Minister Brig John Sandy, responding to a question filed in the Senate by Opposition Senator Fitzgerald Hinds, said the State had spent a total of $4.7 million in legal fees to pursue a claim for $1.5 billion in damages in arbitration proceedings for the cancelled OPVs.
 
Sandy had said the contract for the OPVs with BAE Systems was cancelled on October 20, 2010, owing to “substantial material delays” in delivery. He said BAE, a British arms company, attempted to effect delivery of the OPVs but this was not accepted by the Government because of defects in the vessels.
 
As a result, BAE began arbitration proceedings at the International Court of Arbitration at the International Chamber of Commerce, Paris, France on the October 26, 2010, claiming the contract for the OPVs was still valid and the planned cancellation invalid. The Government, however, counter-claimed contractual damages totalling £145 million (TT$1.4 billion), Sandy said.
 
Hearings took place in London from May 7-18, 2012. Sandy disclosed that the lawyers hired by the State in relation to the matter included: Charles Russell (solicitors); Joe Smouha, QC; Alan Newman, QC; Neal Bisnath; and Ricky Diwan.
The $1.5 billion OPV contract was signed by the People’s National Movement administration in April 2007. A cancellation notice was served under the present administration on September 17, 2010.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2012-10-28/ag-requests-13b-settle-opv%E2%80%88arbitration
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: lefty on October 28, 2012, 07:03:08 AM
1.3b in we cuunt so d PP could satify dey drug dealer financiers steups
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on October 28, 2012, 08:03:21 AM
AG requests $1.3b to settle OPV arbitration

One irate Cabinet source questioned why the Government would want to pay $1.3 billion in arbitration fees rather than paying $1.5 billion for the three OPVs instead.
 
Patrick Manning was suspended from the house for saying that the PM was in bed with drug dealers. While the evidence he displayed was conjectural this is more compelling.

Ramlogan is trying to settle before the arbitration is completed to prevent a damning final judgement that would expose the government's folly. He get ketch lying too, what a snake !
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: g on October 28, 2012, 08:26:17 AM
This OPV situation is a complete scandal
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 28, 2012, 08:41:33 AM
Quote
On October 17, during the budget debate, Ramlogan said he had been micromanaging the OPV issue and described the arbitration as “massive.” He had said the impact of the possible loss of this or other arbitration cases could leave T&T’s economy “reeling” and “catapult T&T downwards.”

It gives me no satisfaction in being right, given the incredibly steep penalty that Trinidad is facing, but I called this from the very beginning.  The degree of incompetence being demonstrated in just this limited (OPV) instance is astounding.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on October 28, 2012, 11:01:12 AM
Still doh matter...motion of censure failed ent?


It damn good for we.

1.3 to settle....1.5 to purchase outright. Wonderful economics.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 11:10:50 AM
Get rid of the ships and you have nothing in place to fit in. What happened to the smaller vessels they say that would be better?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on October 28, 2012, 11:40:38 AM
I done yes
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 28, 2012, 02:59:01 PM
I still trying to rational the reason for scuttling the deal. What was bad about the deal in the first place. Yes, there were delays on part of BAE(correct me). We were to believe that BAE would be subject to penalties for this delay(again correct me). What is it the PP gov't knew about this deal that they decided to break it. I can't believe we have to pay 1.5 billion for breaking a contract. Why could they not see that. With all them lawyers in that party, you mean to say that could not research similar cases. You mean to say they could not contact legal people in London before making that move? Any PP supporters, explain to me.

 Now they making Lok Jack look like a friggin genius.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: lefty on October 28, 2012, 03:55:01 PM
on another note d guardian get some stones lately or they jus figure it goh make news anyway leh we get d scoop ???
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on October 28, 2012, 04:03:39 PM
Get rid of the ships and you have nothing in place to fit in. What happened to the smaller vessels they say that would be better?

Nah D.H.W.  The plan was to dismantle everything the PNM put in place whether or not it made sense.  Then try a thing.  Dey try SOE.  It eh wuk.  Now dey send de "hardest wukking" Minister who can only come up with army and police patrols for East Port of Spain and $69 a day wuk for the natives.  Dais de great crime plan!!  Steups!!

Paging Dinho, paging Dinho.....come in Dinho.  Yuh feeling safe yet?  Hard wukking man getting results yet??  Steups!! 
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on October 28, 2012, 04:05:00 PM
I still trying to rational the reason for scuttling the deal.

The PNM put it in place.  That was their only basis for getting rid of them.....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: lefty on October 28, 2012, 04:13:11 PM
I still trying to rational the reason for scuttling the deal.

The PNM put it in place.  That was their only basis for getting rid of them.....

as mentioned above I feel it was more sinister dan dat cocaine reachin d states in double time now guess whey it passin
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on October 28, 2012, 04:17:39 PM
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Kamla: Govt doesn't owe one cent for OPVs
Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Kamla__Govt_doesn_t_owe_one_cent_for_OPVs-104056313.html

By Akile Simon akile.simon@trinidadexpress.com
September 29, 2010
PRIME MINISTER Kamla Persad-Bissessar said yesterday the Government does not owe a cent to BAE Systems, the United Kingdom company contracted to build three multi-billion-dollar offshore patrol vessels (OPVs).

In fact, Persad-Bissessar says BAE owes this country $61 million in damages and will have to repay every cent the Government invested in the project over the past few years.

She was responding to a statement by head of external communication at BAE Kristina Crowe last week, which indicated cost overruns on the deal would mean Government would have to pay an additional £150 million, before tax, on the deal. This, she said, meant the Government was owning BAE £300 million before it terminated the contract.

Contacted yesterday for further comment, Crowe issued the following statement and referred us back to the regulatory announcement issued on Septem- ber 21 on the London Stock Exchange website.

"We have received written notice from the Government of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago (GORTT) that it wishes to cancel the programme under which BAE Systems is providing three offshore patrol vessels and support to the Trinidad and Tobago Coast Guard. We are seeking to engage in commercial discussions with GORTT and hope to reach an equitable settlement," the statement read.

Speaking to the media at Piarco after returning from her trip to the United States yesterday, Persad-Bissessar said after careful analysis of the project and the substantial breaches in contract by BAE, a decision was taken to cancel the contract since the OPVs could not assist the country in its fight against crime.

The former People's National Movement (PNM) government signed a £150 million contract in April 2007 with VT Shipbuilding to build and commission the vessels. In October last year, BAE acquired full control of VT.

A few months ago, an interministerial committee, which included National Security Minister Brigadier John Sandy and Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, was set up to review the purchase of the OPVs.

Sandy subsequently said he hoped to convince the committee to purchase the vessels since he believed they would be needed in the current fight against crime.

Persad-Bissessar's statement yesterday was the first from any Government official since BAE announced Government had cancelled the purchase of the assets. She said before BAE's statement, her Government could not make public their decision to terminate the contract because of a particular non-disclosure clause in the contract that preven- ted Government from doing so. Government, she said, would meet with officials from BAE but remains firm in its decision to terminate the contract.

"There are stories that I have been reading that we owe BAE money and we breached the contract. No, that is not the case at all. I am advised that BAE is in breach of the contract because of two reasons.

"They (BAE) are in breach because of delay, which was the most substantial cause we have to termination of the contract, but they are also in breach because they have not been able to comply with the specs that had been contracted for," she said.

She said the Government was of the opinion such assets would not assist in making any dent in the crime situation and was also not in a position to fund the vessels.

Steps have already been taken to bring back home more than 60 sailors in the UK, who are training there to operate the OPVs, she said.

Such money, Persad-Bissessar said, could be utilised in ensuring law enforcement officers are adequately compensated for their services.

"There are several things that we had to consider. Do we need three OPVs? The country is not at war out in the seas; the country is at war on the ground, in our streets and in the towns within Trinidad and Tobago. The cost to maintain the vessels would have cost taxpayers in excess of $500 million annually. Our country cannot sustain that at this time," she said.

Persad-Bissessar said the Government had an option to waiver the breach in contracts by BAE, but it would not be in the best interest of the citizenry to do so since "there were better things" the money could be put to.

"We feel that we could better spend that money right here on the ground to fight crime, to pay police officers more money, pay the Defence Force more money, to pay the prisons officers more. To get equipment and, of course, food and hospitals beds," the PM said.

"There is the view that these huge OPVs will not assist in the fight against crime because first, they are slow and are visible from way off. You could see them from far off, so these narco (narcotic) traffickers who may be coming and illegal gun-runners (who) may be coming, what may be more useful is the smaller, faster cutters."

She, however, made it clear the Government will not abandon the needs of its naval and air support units. Government, she said, still intends to proceed with the purchase of four Agusta Westland AW139 twin-turbine helicopters at a cost of $2.3 billion for the T&T Air Guard, to be used for search-and-rescue, surface surveillance, law enforcement, drug interdiction and disaster relief operations.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on October 28, 2012, 04:19:42 PM
Actually.....this is a brilliant tactical decision.


Budget pass...deficit....7 billion or so.

Ministry of Works going back to borrow 2.7 Billion.

Financial Year eh done yet....in fact we in the first month...to pay this cost for the OPV....is 1.4 Billion...(which we not even sure from whence it cometh) Thats almost 4 Billion.

Essentially....we in November and 11 Billion in the red already with underwhelming revenue generators.


De only way this could make sense is the fact that by not having the OPV's......several billion dollars in drugs could come in and go out the country and thus cushion the effect of 7 .....if not 11 billion dollars deficit.


Brilliant strategy.

 ;D
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 28, 2012, 04:31:59 PM
Reading that again it is so laughable in hindsight... she couldn't go into details about why the Gov't decide to terminate, "citing a clause in the contract"... what contract?  You done breach the contract by terminating and now yuh talking about confidentiality clause?  No contract has any provision related to confidentiality in the event of breach... what would the penalty be?  More than it is for breaching?  Makes no sense.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on October 28, 2012, 05:50:07 PM
I done yes

Y it now starting 2 get interesting.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: D.H.W on October 28, 2012, 06:27:36 PM
I done yes

Y it now starting 2 get interesting.

He cah handle the ride  :D
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on October 28, 2012, 08:55:56 PM
I done yes

Y it now starting 2 get interesting.

He cah handle the ride  :D

ALL YUH HARDEN. LOMG TIME AH SAY BUCKLE UP 4 D RIDE.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: congo on October 28, 2012, 10:33:51 PM
The ride nice. I'm loving it and as the days go by I see more and more people buckling up. Just now I'll be the driver for all these new comers.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on October 28, 2012, 11:12:04 PM
Oh shucks...i forget to post dis!


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Warner__Rowley_targets_AG_because_of_race-176132381.html

Warner: Rowley targets AG because of race
By Asha Javeed asha.javeed@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Oct 27, 2012 at 10:57 PM ECT

Story Updated: Oct 28, 2012 at 6:19 PM ECT

The People's National Movement (PNM) motion of censure which was brought against Attorney General Anand Ramlogan was "resoundingly" defeated early yesterday morning.

The 15-hour marathon session, which began at 1.30 p.m. last Friday and ended at 5.03 a.m. yesterday, had 25 Members of Parliament voting against the motion and 11 members of the Opposition bench voting in its favour.

The Opposition brought the motion to have the Prime Minister sack Ramlogan over his role in the Section 34 fiasco. The Prime Minister's only disciplinary action over Section 34 has been the firing of former Justice Minister Herbert Volney for misleading her Cabinet.

Volney and Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Dookeran did not vote in the censure motion.

Volney yesterday told the Sunday Express he left Parliament at Tower D, International Waterfront Centre, Port of Spain, during the tea break last Friday and had hoped to return later in the night but did not make it back.

Dookeran said he left Parliament at 9 p.m.

In winding up the debate, National Security Minister Jack Warner surmised that no explanation offered by the Government for the Section 34 fiasco would satisfy the People's National Movement (PNM). In his view, the PNM had "no moral authority" to tell the Prime Minister how to govern and was "minding the mark" in the belief that it will get them into office at the next general election.

In defending Ramlogan, Warner charged that Rowley had signaled him out for "persecution" because of his ethnicity.

"It's because you have a problem with the individual," he said.


Warner questioned how come Rowley did not have "one" like him sitting on the PNM benches or going up for elections in the PNM convention which takes place today. (See Page 7.)

"They don't count. You are attacking the Attorney General because the AG represents the things you dislike," said Warner. His statement elicited cross talk in the Parliament chamber but Warner was not persuaded to stop.

He asked if Rowley had canvassed the opinions of people from Chaguanas or Barataria/San Juan on their views on Section 34.


Warner reminded Rowley that he and his members voted for the bill and that the PNM was bent on making "superficial statements" to support its conspiracy theories.

He charged that while the PNM may appear "self-righteous" and "sanctimonious", the public was "more intelligent than that".

Wading into the contribution made by Opposition MP Colm Imbert, Warner belittled his "Sherlock Holmes/Dick Tracy" explanation of the section 34 debacle. Warner said Imbert's statement that the Gazetted notice was not available online until September 10 was simply because that was the date and time it was uploaded onto the website.

This, he said, had nothing to do with the preparation of the notice but was the only time it was available for download from the website.

He said that the PNM with its "top class lawyers" had missed the fallout of the Section 34 clause.

"There is no basis for putting the blame on the AG for Section 34," said Warner.

He said the Cabinet note of August 6 contained representations from the former Justice Minister and not the AG.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on October 28, 2012, 11:13:45 PM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Warner_and_Ramlogan__OPV_deal_not_yet_determined-176200131.html

Warner and Ramlogan: OPV deal not yet determined
By Renuka Singh

Story Created: Oct 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM ECT

Story Updated: Oct 28, 2012 at 10:51 PM ECT

Two senior Government Ministers yesterday responded to a newspaper report that an additional $1.3 billion was needed to settle the arbitration involving the cancellation of the Offshore Patrol Vessel (OPV) contract saying that the matter had not yet been determined.

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan yesterday described a Guardian report of the Cabinet meeting as "totally false" noting that judgment had been reserved in the matter.

National Security Minister Jack Warner said he, too, would await the arbitration ruling before commenting further.

"We discussed that the matter, it is still under arbitration and since it is still under arbitration. I don't think it is prudent for any member of Cabinet to speak about the matter; it is not settled. As Minister of National Security under whose portfolio that comes I think the best to do at this point is wait for the completion of the arbitration and as soon as that is concluded the public will be appraised," he said yesterday.

Warner made the statement to reporters at the Church of Assumption, Long Circular, Maraval while at the Police Service Interfaith Service yesterday.

Ramlogan too cited that the matter was still under arbitration and as such could not be discussed.

"I know the PNM (People's National Movement) has been boasting that we lose the OPV arbitration and the country will be forced to shell out hundreds of millions of dollars," he said, in a brief telephone interview.

But Ramlogan defended his two-year-old action.

"For myself, I think the Government acted properly and had a good case. It is left to be seen what the eventual result would be," he said.

In its 2011 annual financial report, BAE Systems, the British company which had been contracted to build the three vessels, noted that its income for that year reflected a "charge of £100 m (TT$1 billion) was taken in 2010 upon termination of the contract with the Government of Trinidad and Tobago".

When asked about that additional figure, Ramlogan said he could not interpret the company's financial documents.

The financial documents also stated that the tribunal hearing for the cancelled contracts was scheduled for the first half of 2012.

In 2010, when the People's Partnership took office, the Government cancelled the contract that the PNM had secured with BAE Systems in London. The $1.5 billion contract was expected to produce three OPV's for border patrol. Those vessels were subsequently purchased by Brazil.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on October 29, 2012, 04:52:56 AM
The ride nice. I'm loving it and as the days go by I see more and more people buckling up. Just now I'll be the driver for all these new comers.

The ride eh nice nah.  It like a roller coaster than only hurtling downwards and we screaming the whole time.....there is no up.....*sigh*  and yes, I voted for them.....*double sigh*   :banginghead: :banginghead: :frustrated: :frustrated:
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jumbie on October 29, 2012, 10:54:04 AM
legal minds...

in such a case, how does the fact that the boats are now sold affect anything?


The cop nor the unc never had a person capable to lead the country and the supporting casts in both cases were just as incompetent. The country and people in general were mislead and continue to suffer from this pretend govt. I don't see a way ahead with these idiots.

Hope the pnm get their act together FAST, as they will need to rescue the country very soon. I just don't see a way ahead with Dr Rowley either. Nice to see my girl Penelope makign some waves again.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on October 29, 2012, 10:55:36 AM
The ride nice. I'm loving it and as the days go by I see more and more people buckling up. Just now I'll be the driver for all these new comers.

The ride eh nice nah.  It like a roller coaster than only hurtling downwards and we screaming the whole time.....there is no up.....*sigh*  and yes, I voted for them.....*double sigh*   :banginghead: :banginghead: :frustrated: :frustrated:

Doh  :banginghead: u were fooled but once u wuk in the Public Service once these jokers were in power u could never vote 4 them. Living Central Trinidad is an added bonus. U R 4 given yuh gettin 2 redeem yuhself in January.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: g on October 29, 2012, 10:56:07 AM
I would want to speculate that the request for the 1.3 billion is to settle with BAE with a gag on the overall settlement details.

That will close the arbitration after which, the public statement from those in office will simply to say that the matter has been settled and the details remain private.

If this story was never published the public would have never known the exact amount being requested. I can't even comprehend 1.3 billion dollars, chances are that figure has to be converted GBP (around 110 million) for the settlement which is another significant drain on foreign exchange availability. This government has a method of covering up, poorly in most cases.

If nothing else thanks to those dissenting voices in the cabinet who may be even the reason was story was leaked in the first place.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on October 29, 2012, 10:58:01 AM
legal minds...

in such a case, how does the fact that the boats are now sold affect anything?


The cop nor the unc never had a person capable to lead the country and the supporting casts in both cases were just as incompetent. The country and people in general were mislead and continue to suffer from this pretend govt. I don't see a way ahead with these idiots.

Hope the pnm get their act together FAST, as they will need to rescue the country very soon. I just don't see a way ahead with Dr Rowley either. Nice to see my girl Penelope makign some waves again.

EH NO FAN AH ROWLEY OR D PNM. But an uncounsiousness Rowley and any PNM worse than these misfits. So people need 2 stop focusing on Rowley shortcomings and mobilise 2 get these bandits out of power ASAP. If not by d time rowley reach PM it eh have nutten 2 govern. d country will be DEAD.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: pardners on October 29, 2012, 10:59:31 AM
Actually.....this is a brilliant tactical decision.


Budget pass...deficit....7 billion or so.

Ministry of Works going back to borrow 2.7 Billion.

Financial Year eh done yet....in fact we in the first month...to pay this cost for the OPV....is 1.4 Billion...(which we not even sure from whence it cometh) Thats almost 4 Billion.

Essentially....we in November and 11 Billion in the red already with underwhelming revenue generators.


De only way this could make sense is the fact that by not having the OPV's......several billion dollars in drugs could come in and go out the country and thus cushion the effect of 7 .....if not 11 billion dollars deficit.


Brilliant strategy.

 ;D

According to Rowley at the PNM convention yesterday...the PP done know they lose the case so they put the 1.4B inside the budget and allocated it to the Min of National Security already.  He say when he asks Warner what all the money allocated to the ministry is for, Warner said he didn't know.  Asks whether was for personnel or equipment...he said was for equipment.  ::)

But yuh right...brilliant strategy !
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: g on October 29, 2012, 11:23:39 AM
legal minds...

in such a case, how does the fact that the boats are now sold affect anything?


The cop nor the unc never had a person capable to lead the country and the supporting casts in both cases were just as incompetent. The country and people in general were mislead and continue to suffer from this pretend govt. I don't see a way ahead with these idiots.

Hope the pnm get their act together FAST, as they will need to rescue the country very soon. I just don't see a way ahead with Dr Rowley either. Nice to see my girl Penelope makign some waves again.
legal minds...

in such a case, how does the fact that the boats are now sold affect anything?


The cop nor the unc never had a person capable to lead the country and the supporting casts in both cases were just as incompetent. The country and people in general were mislead and continue to suffer from this pretend govt. I don't see a way ahead with these idiots.

Hope the pnm get their act together FAST, as they will need to rescue the country very soon. I just don't see a way ahead with Dr Rowley either. Nice to see my girl Penelope makign some waves again.

EH NO FAN AH ROWLEY OR D PNM. But an uncounsiousness Rowley and any PNM worse than these misfits. So people need 2 stop focusing on Rowley shortcomings and mobilise 2 get these bandits out of power ASAP. If not by d time rowley reach PM it eh have nutten 2 govern. d country will be DEAD.

I hold no brief for Dr Rowley either, I personally find his demeanor to be a bit antagonistic and can come across overly aggressive and unstatesman like at times.

However, the country needs some integrity in leadership badly, there is a distinct erosion of moral values and principles in governance and if he can bring that to the table, then by all means. Is it a case of electing someone we want or someone we critically need at this time?

T&T has a habit of voting out who they don't like rather than selecting leadership, its almost election by default. There is an increasing segment of swing voters that evaluate a government's performance and handling economic and social issues as well as their conduct in public office. It is that segment who determines who gets or remains in power, politicians will be foolish to think that they can attain office solely by their tribal bases in these times.

At times I try to rationalize where were are as a nation politically after 50 years of independence. Did other countries with mature democracies have to go through this? Are we unique due to our extreme diversities that feed the tribalism? How do we get out of this? I would want to think that as we continue to grow a new generation of independent critical thinkers combined with an independent press where information flows freely, politicians will realize that the change that they love to go up on platforms to sing about starts with them, for all our sakes.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on October 29, 2012, 11:37:44 AM
I would want to speculate that the request for the 1.3 billion is to settle with BAE with a gag on the overall settlement details.

That will close the arbitration after which, the public statement from those in office will simply to say that the matter has been settled and the details remain private.

If this story was never published the public would have never known the exact amount being requested. I can't even comprehend 1.3 billion dollars, chances are that figure has to be converted GBP (around 110 million) for the settlement which is another significant drain on foreign exchange availability. This government has a method of covering up, poorly in most cases.

If nothing else thanks to those dissenting voices in the cabinet who may be even the reason was story was leaked in the first place.
ahhh..... there it is.

That's exactly it.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on October 29, 2012, 12:10:31 PM
I would want to speculate that the request for the 1.3 billion is to settle with BAE with a gag on the overall settlement details.

That will close the arbitration after which, the public statement from those in office will simply to say that the matter has been settled and the details remain private.

If this story was never published the public would have never known the exact amount being requested. I can't even comprehend 1.3 billion dollars, chances are that figure has to be converted GBP (around 110 million) for the settlement which is another significant drain on foreign exchange availability. This government has a method of covering up, poorly in most cases.

If nothing else thanks to those dissenting voices in the cabinet who may be even the reason was story was leaked in the first place.
ahhh..... there it is.

That's exactly it.

Them voices still in d cabinet so they are part of d charade. So brownie pts is d most they will get from me if they leak it.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jumbie on October 29, 2012, 12:33:55 PM
legal minds...

in such a case, how does the fact that the boats are now sold affect anything?


The cop nor the unc never had a person capable to lead the country and the supporting casts in both cases were just as incompetent. The country and people in general were mislead and continue to suffer from this pretend govt. I don't see a way ahead with these idiots.

Hope the pnm get their act together FAST, as they will need to rescue the country very soon. I just don't see a way ahead with Dr Rowley either. Nice to see my girl Penelope makign some waves again.

EH NO FAN AH ROWLEY OR D PNM. But an uncounsiousness Rowley and any PNM worse than these misfits. So people need 2 stop focusing on Rowley shortcomings and mobilise 2 get these bandits out of power ASAP. If not by d time rowley reach PM it eh have nutten 2 govern. d country will be DEAD.

the anti Mr Manning got us to this point. We should not be voting to just "remove" a party, but hold each party wanting power accountable. I refuse to subscribe to the lesser of two evils as well.

We will continue to recycle the same shit.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on October 29, 2012, 01:12:22 PM
legal minds...

in such a case, how does the fact that the boats are now sold affect anything?


The cop nor the unc never had a person capable to lead the country and the supporting casts in both cases were just as incompetent. The country and people in general were mislead and continue to suffer from this pretend govt. I don't see a way ahead with these idiots.

Hope the pnm get their act together FAST, as they will need to rescue the country very soon. I just don't see a way ahead with Dr Rowley either. Nice to see my girl Penelope makign some waves again.

EH NO FAN AH ROWLEY OR D PNM. But an uncounsiousness Rowley and any PNM worse than these misfits. So people need 2 stop focusing on Rowley shortcomings and mobilise 2 get these bandits out of power ASAP. If not by d time rowley reach PM it eh have nutten 2 govern. d country will be DEAD.

the anti Mr Manning got us to this point. We should not be voting to just "remove" a party, but hold each party wanting power accountable. I refuse to subscribe to the lesser of two evils as well.

We will continue to recycle the same shit.

Rowley isn't perfect but at least his record is intact. He paid the price for doing the right thing too. If the fact that he's a better Parliamentarian and has a better record as a Minister than those clowns and especially KPB isn't enough, I think the fact that he actually has demonstrated integrity is more than convincing for me.

But I understand your tone. I remain resolute that this government got in on a free ride and we can't afford the same liberty to the next government either.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on October 29, 2012, 08:27:57 PM
legal minds...

in such a case, how does the fact that the boats are now sold affect anything?


The cop nor the unc never had a person capable to lead the country and the supporting casts in both cases were just as incompetent. The country and people in general were mislead and continue to suffer from this pretend govt. I don't see a way ahead with these idiots.

Hope the pnm get their act together FAST, as they will need to rescue the country very soon. I just don't see a way ahead with Dr Rowley either. Nice to see my girl Penelope makign some waves again.

EH NO FAN AH ROWLEY OR D PNM. But an uncounsiousness Rowley and any PNM worse than these misfits. So people need 2 stop focusing on Rowley shortcomings and mobilise 2 get these bandits out of power ASAP. If not by d time rowley reach PM it eh have nutten 2 govern. d country will be DEAD.

the anti Mr Manning got us to this point. We should not be voting to just "remove" a party, but hold each party wanting power accountable. I refuse to subscribe to the lesser of two evils as well.

We will continue to recycle the same shit.


D anti Manning got all yuh 2 this point. D same ting dey did Robbie cuss d man backward and forward like he did all yuh someting personally. Nobody looked at what d PNM govt did they harp on Manning and how he arrogant. His arrogance what that have to do with him running the country. There was a plan 4 d country but we so silly we get chain up wit d propoganda and give d country 2 these misfits.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 29, 2012, 08:55:15 PM
I would want to speculate that the request for the 1.3 billion is to settle with BAE with a gag on the overall settlement details.

That will close the arbitration after which, the public statement from those in office will simply to say that the matter has been settled and the details remain private.

If this story was never published the public would have never known the exact amount being requested. I can't even comprehend 1.3 billion dollars, chances are that figure has to be converted GBP (around 110 million) for the settlement which is another significant drain on foreign exchange availability. This government has a method of covering up, poorly in most cases.

If nothing else thanks to those dissenting voices in the cabinet who may be even the reason was story was leaked in the first place.

That is public funds... they could never put a gag order on any settlement details.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: congo on October 30, 2012, 12:19:27 AM
The ride nice. I'm loving it and as the days go by I see more and more people buckling up. Just now I'll be the driver for all these new comers.

The ride eh nice nah.  It like a roller coaster than only hurtling downwards and we screaming the whole time.....there is no up.....*sigh*  and yes, I voted for them.....*double sigh*   :banginghead: :banginghead: :frustrated: :frustrated:

Nah you wrong...You choose the wrong line. I on the space shuttle. I forever 'rising."
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jumbie on October 30, 2012, 08:35:14 AM
legal minds...

in such a case, how does the fact that the boats are now sold affect anything?


The cop nor the unc never had a person capable to lead the country and the supporting casts in both cases were just as incompetent. The country and people in general were mislead and continue to suffer from this pretend govt. I don't see a way ahead with these idiots.

Hope the pnm get their act together FAST, as they will need to rescue the country very soon. I just don't see a way ahead with Dr Rowley either. Nice to see my girl Penelope makign some waves again.

EH NO FAN AH ROWLEY OR D PNM. But an uncounsiousness Rowley and any PNM worse than these misfits. So people need 2 stop focusing on Rowley shortcomings and mobilise 2 get these bandits out of power ASAP. If not by d time rowley reach PM it eh have nutten 2 govern. d country will be DEAD.

the anti Mr Manning got us to this point. We should not be voting to just "remove" a party, but hold each party wanting power accountable. I refuse to subscribe to the lesser of two evils as well.

We will continue to recycle the same shit.


D anti Manning got all yuh 2 this point. D same ting dey did Robbie cuss d man backward and forward like he did all yuh someting personally. Nobody looked at what d PNM govt did they harp on Manning and how he arrogant. His arrogance what that have to do with him running the country. There was a plan 4 d country but we so silly we get chain up wit d propoganda and give d country 2 these misfits.

aren't you living in Trinidad? Last time I checked, you have to deal with the same BS. No matter if you vote or didn't vote, the reality is it is no one person's problem. Yet another area we as a people need to check ourselves. This 'you put them in power, so deal with it" mentality must change. If you didn't ink your finger for the ruling party does not give you an automatic excuse. The problems will not go away like that.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on October 30, 2012, 11:03:12 AM
legal minds...

in such a case, how does the fact that the boats are now sold affect anything?


The cop nor the unc never had a person capable to lead the country and the supporting casts in both cases were just as incompetent. The country and people in general were mislead and continue to suffer from this pretend govt. I don't see a way ahead with these idiots.

Hope the pnm get their act together FAST, as they will need to rescue the country very soon. I just don't see a way ahead with Dr Rowley either. Nice to see my girl Penelope makign some waves again.

EH NO FAN AH ROWLEY OR D PNM. But an uncounsiousness Rowley and any PNM worse than these misfits. So people need 2 stop focusing on Rowley shortcomings and mobilise 2 get these bandits out of power ASAP. If not by d time rowley reach PM it eh have nutten 2 govern. d country will be DEAD.

the anti Mr Manning got us to this point. We should not be voting to just "remove" a party, but hold each party wanting power accountable. I refuse to subscribe to the lesser of two evils as well.

We will continue to recycle the same shit.


D anti Manning got all yuh 2 this point. D same ting dey did Robbie cuss d man backward and forward like he did all yuh someting personally. Nobody looked at what d PNM govt did they harp on Manning and how he arrogant. His arrogance what that have to do with him running the country. There was a plan 4 d country but we so silly we get chain up wit d propoganda and give d country 2 these misfits.

aren't you living in Trinidad? Last time I checked, you have to deal with the same BS. No matter if you vote or didn't vote, the reality is it is no one person's problem. Yet another area we as a people need to check ourselves. This 'you put them in power, so deal with it" mentality must change. If you didn't ink your finger for the ruling party does not give you an automatic excuse. The problems will not go away like that.

I have learnt 2 deal wit d madness I have worked in the public service all my life. I have sat in meetings wit Ministers on either side and ask what they drinking or sniffing. Madness is synonomous wit livin in TNT I excuse myself from this level of because I did not buy d BS was being sold so I decided long time 2 sit back buckle up and watch d ride.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 30, 2012, 02:18:48 PM
the anti Mr Manning got us to this point. We should not be voting to just "remove" a party, but hold each party wanting power accountable. I refuse to subscribe to the lesser of two evils as well.

We will continue to recycle the same shit.



Well this will continue to happen as long as we stick to a Westminster type gov't. The UNC side of the equation like this set up just fine. It work to get them in power. They don't see the need for constitutional reform. I say we should have 2 terms and out for PM. Just like they do in the US. If after the 2 terms the ruling new PM wins, that is fine. The opposition just needs to do a better job of convincing the people.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on November 10, 2012, 08:46:52 AM
Ramlogan gives London ultimatum
Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Ramlogan_gives__London_ultimatum-178249341.html

By Ria Taitt Political Editor
November 9, 2012
Attorney General Anand Ramlogan has given Tobago House of Assembly Chief Secretary Orville London one week to submit documents pertaining to the Milshirv project and the aquatic centre project to Minister of Finance Larry Howai.

Ramlogan told the Express yesterday that if London failed to do so he would take him to court under the Freedom of Information Act to compel him to release the documents.

The AG added if he was "forced" to issue legal proceedings against London, he (Ramlogan) would also be forced to consider whether to invite the court to order London to pay the legal costs personally as opposed to it coming out of the THA coffers.

Ramlogan said he was giving London one more week because he did not want it to be said that "we are hounding Mr London or acting in an aggressive manner against him".

"I am repeating the call to him through you (the media) to behave in a responsible and mature manner and disclose the documents or else face the consequences," the Attorney General stated.

Ramlogan said: "Mr London had publicly boasted that he had nothing to hide and that he was prepared to provide all documents concerning the MILSHIRV BOLT (build own lease transfer) transaction and the aquatic centre in Tobago. The documents since have been requested by the Integrity Commission and the Minister of Finance and he has since changed his tune and is yet to provide the requested information."

Ramlogan noted that information was necessary so that he as Attorney General could render proper legal advice to the Minister of Finance.

The AG said based on the documents that former head of the Public Service, Reginald Dumas, had written about and commented upon, it appeared that there was a prima facie case of a breach of the law (by the THA under London) and that he (London) may have acted illegally in negotiating this "clandestine" BOLT arrangement without the prior consent, knowledge and approval of the Minister of Finance.

Ramlogan said: "That Mr London in the face of this could hide or hold on to the relevant documents, instead of fulfilling his promise to make the documents available to the Government and public, can only fuel suspicion and speculation about his motives for so doing. What does he have to hide? Why the long delay?"

Ramlogan said if London did not provide the information requested within a reasonable time (that is one week) an application would be made under the Freedom of Information Act and a court order will be sought to compel him to disclose the documents.

"It is unfortunate that such a draconian measure will have to be taken against the THA Chief Secretary, when all we are asking for is information that can be laid bare for public scrutiny in the interest of transparency and accountability. A most serious question has been raised about the breach of the law and questions about misconduct in public office have been raised by persons outside of the political arena (Dumas). It is therefore incumbent upon Mr London to remember the oath he took upon assuming office and to understand these documents are not his personal property. They are public property and as such should be disclosed," the Attorney General said.

Last month Howai wrote to London, giving him seven days to submit the documents relating to the two projects. The letter was sent after the Attorney General had referred the issue to the Integrity Commission.

London has given the assurance that the documents would be submitted to the Integrity Commission but has pointed out that the Minister of Finance has no authority to instruct him to provide documents within a time frame.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on November 14, 2012, 05:20:58 AM
 :-X :waiting:

BAE Systems confirm Trinidad and Tobago settlement
14 NOV 2012


British defence firm BAE Systems has confirmed a settlement with the Government of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago (GORTT), after a two year dispute over their offshore patrol vessels contract.

Trinidad and Tobago’s Government entered into the contract with the security giant in April 2007, and subsequently pulled out of the deal in 2010.

The South Caribbean country expressed its wishes to cancel the contract with BAE, who confirmed a deal on Wednesday to sell off three vessels to the Brazilian Navy.

Brazil received the first of the ships in June after a contract was agreed in December last year.

The original agreement would have seen BAE Systems’ company VT Shipbuilding build three vessels for the Republic, however as a result of delays and overspending, the firm suffered a £100m charge once GORTT cancelled the deal.

There was no disclosure of remuneration in Wednesday morning’s announcement, however BAE Systems said the settlement with the GORTT was “consistent with provisions held.”

http://bdaily.co.uk/industrials/14-11-2012/bae-systems-confirm-trinidad-and-tobago-settlement/ (http://bdaily.co.uk/industrials/14-11-2012/bae-systems-confirm-trinidad-and-tobago-settlement/)
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on November 14, 2012, 06:02:39 AM
:-X :waiting:

BAE Systems confirm Trinidad and Tobago settlement
14 NOV 2012


British defence firm BAE Systems has confirmed a settlement with the Government of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago (GORTT), after a two year dispute over their offshore patrol vessels contract.

Trinidad and Tobago’s Government entered into the contract with the security giant in April 2007, and subsequently pulled out of the deal in 2010.

The South Caribbean country expressed its wishes to cancel the contract with BAE, who confirmed a deal on Wednesday to sell off three vessels to the Brazilian Navy.

Brazil received the first of the ships in June after a contract was agreed in December last year.

The original agreement would have seen BAE Systems’ company VT Shipbuilding build three vessels for the Republic, however as a result of delays and overspending, the firm suffered a £100m charge once GORTT cancelled the deal.

There was no disclosure of remuneration in Wednesday morning’s announcement, however BAE Systems said the settlement with the GORTT was “consistent with provisions held.”

http://bdaily.co.uk/industrials/14-11-2012/bae-systems-confirm-trinidad-and-tobago-settlement/ (http://bdaily.co.uk/industrials/14-11-2012/bae-systems-confirm-trinidad-and-tobago-settlement/)
ok
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: g on November 14, 2012, 02:15:43 PM
Just heard on the news that BAE is expected to pay the Gov't 1.3 billion as a settlement for the OPVs.

If this is the case then I am happy that we are about to receive the money, I hope it is re-invested in our national security specific to border control on the seas in some form.

Still has me thinking about that cabinet meeting a few weeks ago where approval was sought for the same 1.3 billion as if we were required to pay. I guess we will find out someday the truth.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Dutty on November 14, 2012, 02:22:47 PM
wait? we gettin money BACK!?!?

some real badman fine print negotiators we sen for dem brits dey boy.....kudos to kamla and she fancy hats
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 14, 2012, 02:43:18 PM
Just heard on the news that BAE is expected to pay the Gov't 1.3 billion as a settlement for the OPVs.

If this is the case then I am happy that we are about to receive the money, I hope it is re-invested in our national security specific to border control on the seas in some form.

Still has me thinking about that cabinet meeting a few weeks ago where approval was sought for the same 1.3 billion as if we were required to pay. I guess we will find out someday the truth.

TnT breach de agreement and we getting $1.3 billion (the amount in dispute) back?  I would be hard pressed to believe that.  More likely is that the government only on the hook for whatever the difference is between what was contracted for and what the Brazilian gov't eventually paid for the ships.  But what I know....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on November 14, 2012, 04:04:06 PM
https://www.facebook.com/cnewslive/posts/10151307506375610 (https://www.facebook.com/cnewslive/posts/10151307506375610)

AG's STATEMENT ON BAE SETTLEMENT:

MINISTRY OF THE ATTONEY GENERAL NOVEMBER 14, 2012

"THE TRUTH ABOUT THE ARBITRATION
Today I will provide the truth and the facts of this matter to the nation. It will be up to you, the citizens of this nation, to decide who should be trusted.
The Arbitration was tried in London in May 2012. Evidence was given on behalf of the State by me, Commodore Garnett Best and Captain Mark Williams.

Subsequent to the Arbitration hearing, the parties, as a result of a diplomatic initiative, engaged in discussions. This afternoon, I am pleased to announce that those discussions have been fruitful. BAE Systems and this Government have reached a full and final settlement of the dispute between them in relation to the OPV contract in the sum of TT$1.382 BILLION. We are pleased that the dispute has been settled amicably. BAES has agreed to pay the Government of Trinidad and Tobago this sum.

BENEFITS
And let me now say, for the benefit of the nation, and the Members opposite who were so sure how this matter would turn out:
The settlement amount is TT$1.382 BILLION."
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on November 14, 2012, 04:07:05 PM
http://www.globalarbitrationreview.com/news/article/30947/trinidad-tobago-payout-bae/ (http://www.globalarbitrationreview.com/news/article/30947/trinidad-tobago-payout-bae/)

British Aerospace Engineering has today agreed to pay US$131 million to the government of Trinidad and Tobago to settle ICC arbitration proceedings over a shipbuilding contract.

We getting some money, not TT $1.382 billion, but some money.....

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 14, 2012, 04:18:52 PM
http://www.globalarbitrationreview.com/news/article/30947/trinidad-tobago-payout-bae/ (http://www.globalarbitrationreview.com/news/article/30947/trinidad-tobago-payout-bae/)

British Aerospace Engineering has today agreed to pay US$131 million to the government of Trinidad and Tobago to settle ICC arbitration proceedings over a shipbuilding contract.

We getting some money, not TT $1.382 billion, but some money.....



Works out to be $838.4 million TT... well color me stunned.  Must have been more in the mortar than de pestle


EDIT:

This (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-16383765) might offer insight...

Quote
The Ocean Patrol Vessels were originally ordered from Vosper Thorneycroft in 2007, but the company was running late with construction at the time its shipbuilding arm merged with BAE Systems in 2008.

The same article also claims that the deficit between what the Brazilians paid for the three OPVs and what was agreed to by the TT gov't is £17 million or $172.5 million TT.  How we went from owing $172.5 million to securing $838 million is a mystery to me. Add the deficit we owed to the sum we now supposedly set to reap and it comes to around $1.1 billion TT.  Maybe that is the creative math Anand using. Credit where it is due... well done by the PP if all of this is true.


Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on November 14, 2012, 04:28:50 PM
http://www.globalarbitrationreview.com/news/article/30947/trinidad-tobago-payout-bae/ (http://www.globalarbitrationreview.com/news/article/30947/trinidad-tobago-payout-bae/)

British Aerospace Engineering has today agreed to pay US$131 million to the government of Trinidad and Tobago to settle ICC arbitration proceedings over a shipbuilding contract.

We getting some money, not TT $1.382 billion, but some money.....



Works out to be $838.4 million TT... well color me stunned.  Must have been more in the mortar than de pestle.

Yeah boy......look how de AG have mih almost applauding.....ALMOST.....he still have to explain section 34.....and ah still want him to throw he frame.....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on November 14, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
I'm shocked and amazed. If this is actually the truth then the Government has to be congratulated for this outcome.
Title: Re: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 14, 2012, 05:23:03 PM
I'm shocked and amazed. If this is actually the truth then the Government has to be congratulated for this outcome.

Too good to be true
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on November 14, 2012, 08:20:39 PM
I think that Anad set up a scenario like this. He went parliament and ask for an amount closed to what was owed. He was baiting the opposition to come out and way-lay the gov't about TT have to pay, but he knew full well we were getting back the money. Now he looking like a rose and Rowley and PNM looking like "fools".  Why did he went to parliament and ask for that amount.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Football supporter on November 14, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
WOW! I'm confused.com!  I understand there were delays from BAE, but I thought they were covered by clauses in the contract. So, help me here. T&T actually paid $1.3 billion and now getting it back, or is the sum T&T is receiving by way of damages?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 15, 2012, 01:43:43 AM
I putting my order of Crow Marinade on hold fuh de time being... call me a skeptic but if Anand say it sunny outside I dressing fuh rain.

EDIT:

Interestingly enough... trading in BAE shares seem unaffected (http://quotes.wsj.com/UK/XLON/BA?mod=DNH_S_cq).  Strange for a company about to make a £100 million payout.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on November 15, 2012, 10:34:07 AM
Clyde shipyard bosses win £130m compensation battle
By Gordon Thomson (Evening Times)

CLYDE shipyard bosses have won a £130million compensation battle with high ranking government officials in Trinidad and Tobago.

The deal was thrashed out after the Caribbean republic reneged on an agreement to buy three offshore patrol vessels to be used in a crackdown on gun runners and drug smugglers.

The row was triggered when a newly-elected government decided to scrap the contract in October, 2010.

The contract had been worth £150m and had been placed with BAE Systems in April, 2007, by political opponents who had previously run the affairs of both holiday islands.

They had claimed there had been building delays to all three vessels and that the combat system had malfunctioned during sea trials on two of the ships.

The Trinidad and Tobago government refused to accept the patrol ships and instead BAE launched a compensation battle at an international court of arbitration.

It held a private hearing over several days in London in May and last month Cabinet members in the Republic were known to have approved a payment to BAE of £130m to end the row.

Shipyard bosses refused to disclose the sum involved but last night issued a brief statement to confirm both sides had reached an agreement.

It means BAE officials have almost doubled their money.

While the dispute rumbled on the company revealed in the run-up to last Christmas that it had sold the three vessels to the Brazilian Navy for £133m.

Company chiefs refused to comment further but industry sources last night confirmed that BAE was to be given £130m in compensation by the Trinidad and Tobago government whose senior officials could not be contacted.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Football supporter on November 15, 2012, 12:10:21 PM
Oh, now it makes sense:

BAE build 3 ships and sell them to T&T for $1.5 billion.

T&T back out of the deal, so the ships are sold to Brazil for $1.3 billion

BAE sue T&T for their losses of......$1.3 billion (huh?)

T&T and BAE go to arbitration

T&T and BAE both win the arbitration.

BAE have to pay T&T $1.3 billion

T&T have to pay BAE $1.3 billion

Everybodys happy.

I can't understand why people get confused.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: truetrini on November 15, 2012, 12:49:22 PM
What about the big downpayment we gave them
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 15, 2012, 01:14:21 PM
Clyde shipyard bosses win £130m compensation battle
By Gordon Thomson (Evening Times)

CLYDE shipyard bosses have won a £130million compensation battle with high ranking government officials in Trinidad and Tobago.

The deal was thrashed out after the Caribbean republic reneged on an agreement to buy three offshore patrol vessels to be used in a crackdown on gun runners and drug smugglers.

The row was triggered when a newly-elected government decided to scrap the contract in October, 2010.

The contract had been worth £150m and had been placed with BAE Systems in April, 2007, by political opponents who had previously run the affairs of both holiday islands.

They had claimed there had been building delays to all three vessels and that the combat system had malfunctioned during sea trials on two of the ships.

The Trinidad and Tobago government refused to accept the patrol ships and instead BAE launched a compensation battle at an international court of arbitration.

It held a private hearing over several days in London in May and last month Cabinet members in the Republic were known to have approved a payment to BAE of £130m to end the row.

Shipyard bosses refused to disclose the sum involved but last night issued a brief statement to confirm both sides had reached an agreement.

It means BAE officials have almost doubled their money.

While the dispute rumbled on the company revealed in the run-up to last Christmas that it had sold the three vessels to the Brazilian Navy for £133m.

Company chiefs refused to comment further but industry sources last night confirmed that BAE was to be given £130m in compensation by the Trinidad and Tobago government whose senior officials could not be contacted.

I now coming to post this... http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/mobile/news/clyde-shipyard-bosses-win-130m-compensation-battle-107205n.19408056
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on November 15, 2012, 02:06:50 PM
(http://s13.postimage.org/icqrjsnbb/Anand_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on November 15, 2012, 02:15:00 PM
Jah G, dahis yuh best looking parliamentarian in that pic dey? Seeking confirmation.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on November 15, 2012, 02:18:31 PM
Jah G, dahis yuh best looking parliamentarian in that pic dey? Seeking confirmation.
Na not Ms. Roopnarine .
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on November 15, 2012, 02:22:56 PM
Thx. :)
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 15, 2012, 02:36:11 PM
Jah G, dahis yuh best looking parliamentarian in that pic dey? Seeking confirmation.

 :)

http://www.facebook.com/mpstacyroopnarine
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on November 15, 2012, 02:49:29 PM
Jah G, dahis yuh best looking parliamentarian in that pic dey? Seeking confirmation.

 :)

http://www.facebook.com/mpstacyroopnarine
nice
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on November 15, 2012, 06:07:38 PM
I still see this as a loss for us. What about all the people who got trained.
Title: AG: T&T wins $1.3b claim against UK firm.
Post by: Flex on November 16, 2012, 03:30:50 AM
AG: T&T wins $1.3b claim against UK firm
By Asha Javeed (T&T Express).


An arbitration between UK-based BAE Systems and Trinidad and Tobago over the cancellation of an order for three offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) has been settled in this country's favour for the sum of $1.382 billion.

That's $272 million less than what the State was seeking when it filed a counter-claim during the two-year-long negotiations.

After the People's Partnership Government cancelled the OPV order on September 16, 2010, BAE Systems initiated arbitration proceedings hoping to recover $611.032 million from the State as it had taken a 100 million pound sterling charge on its books.

In turn, T&T had issued a counter-claim of $1,654 million for the boats, which were valued at 155 million pounds.

Describing the outcome as "victorious", Attorney General Anand Ramlogan said this country had demonstrated that it is serious about business and it is no "third world banana republic", in which international companies can "simply come and get away with murder".

He was speaking at a media briefing at his Cabildo Chambers in Port of Spain yesterday after BAE, which is a publicly-traded company on the London Stock Exchange, posted news that a settlement had been reached "at an amount consistent with provisions held".

However, Ramlogan insisted Trinidad and Tobago would not have to pay "one red cent" to the British company.

Two weeks ago, Ramlogan said he had tabled a note to Cabinet on whether the Government would accept the $1.3 billion from BAE, with the recommendation that the Government not pay any sums to BAE.

Ramlogan said the Government's first act, after it receives the first of two tranches of payment in January 2013, will be to settle the multimillion-dollar loans to BNP Paribas and Lloyds, which the People's National Movement (PNM) government took to buy the OPVs.

He said the balance of $1,042 million on the loan, if settled early, could save the state $57 million in interest.

After repayment of the loan, the Government will have $340 million, which Ramlogan said will be handed over to Finance Minister Larry Howai to use at his discretion on budgetary promises.

He said the Government was also able to save the country money in two instances—first, a $32 million recurrent expenditure of maintaining the OPVs annually and, second, out of an estimated legal bill of 7 to 8 billion pound sterling for the arbitration, the Government had only spent about 1.5 to 2 billion pound sterling.

At the same time, the Attorney General could not say how much money has been lost on the OPV deal because of "abysmal" record-keeping.

"Some of the expenditure was lost in the cracks of the projects, given the span of time. Large crews were housed in Great Britain and were receiving training. There were costs— infrastructure created to accommodate the OPVs, etc. A lot of money was spent," he said.

He noted that the case had concluded earlier because liability had been established on BAE's part and, thus, the settlement was signed on November 13, with no room for appeal on BAE's part.

Ramlogan said it was on his advice that the Government agreed to the cancellation of the OPVs, which the former PNM administration had entered into with BAE in April 2007.

His decision was informed by the delays in delivery of the OPVs—the first OPV was scheduled to be delivered in May 2009 and the second was supposed to be delivered in February 2010... but none were delivered.

He said, too, there was a serious problem with the combat system, and the Government was not prepared to accept the vessels in the defective condition, which led to the cancellation.

The boats were subsequently sold to the Brazilian navy for 60 million pound sterling.

"After careful consideration and after receiving sound legal and technical advice, this Government cancelled the OPV contract. We didn't just get up one day and decide on a 'vaps' to get out of the contract. We acted carefully because we inherited very expensive contract obligations from the PNM," he said.

Questioned on the interpretation of BAE's statement on the matter, Ramlogan responded: "To the extent that that has been put out there, I think that is most unfortunate."

The Financial Times yesterday reported that "the deal should be seen as a positive development because it reduced the company's (BAE) political risk."

"I am not concerned about BAE because we know what the facts are. I can well understand, it's a publicly listed company. Of course, they would want to protect the integrity of the stocks on their stock exchange, and they will want to protect the integrity of the reputation of their company. That's par for the course. I don't hold out that there'll be any ill will about that because I am here to clarify the position and state the facts."

Asked whether the country's borders were now more vulnerable without the vessels, given that T&T is a transhipment hub for drugs and guns, Ramlogan answered: "Where is the evidence of that? Has the murder rate, for example, tripled as to what obtained under the PNM? There is no empirical evidence to support that."

At the moment, the Government is also engaged in three other arbitrations—on behalf of Methanol Holdings in London, England; on behalf of Petrotrin in New York, USA; and with the Hyatt Corporation in Chicago, Illinois, USA.

British High Commission welcomes agreement The British High Commission has welcomed the agreement between BAE Systems and the Government of Trinidad and Tobago on the offshore patrol vessel (OPV) contract. In a release yesterday, the High Commission said "it noted the announcement of the settlement between BAE Systems and the Government of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago on the offshore patrol vessel contract. "We welcome the agreement between BAE Systems and the Government.

This comes as the culmination of several months of negotia- tions. We commend the Government's continued determination and commitment to reach an amicable settlement and the similar determination shown by BAE Systems. "The British High Commission in Trinidad and Tobago will continue to work with the Government of Trinidad and Tobago in its efforts to strengthen this nation's security and justice systems," the release ended.

BAE, Govt in secret deal for more boats.

Although the Government is claiming to have won an arbitration battle with British Aerospace Engineering Systems (BAE), one of the world’s largest military defence companies, indications are that a secret deal between the parties is in the works for T&T to acquire several second-hand boats. “Information is there may be a secret deal going on between the Government and BAE for the purchase of second-hand military vessels,” a well-placed source, requesting strict anonymity, told the T&T Guardian yesterday.
 
“Reports are that BAE leased the vessels to another country and the lease came to an end. If it is true the Government plans to buy these second-hand vessels from BAE, it means there is some deal going on in conjuction with the arbitration,” said the source. “There may be more to the $1.382 billion settlement the Government got from BAE. There may be far more to the story than we think,” the source said.
 
Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, contacted for a response on the matter, only said, “Talk to National Security Minister Jack Warner. I don’t want to comment on matters that concern his ministry.” Meanwhile, the Opposition PNM is likely to contact BAE in a bid to get more information on the arbitration matter, which it says is “very confusing and contradictory.”
 
PNM MP Colm Imbert was a member of an inter-ministerial committee for the purchase of military assets (the OPVs) in the last administration. Asked if he had contacted BAE on the current issue, he replied, “I have not contacted them as yet.”
 
Imbert said he is not satisfied all the information on the BAE settlement coming from the Government is correct and he’s checking to make sure all the facts are in order. He said reports from the international press are different from those coming from the Government. “The international press is saying BAE won the arbitration and was paid by the Government. The Attorney General is saying these reports are a fabrication.”
 
Further compounding the confusion is the question of the real cost incurred by the Government in the OPV matter, Imbert said. “The legal costs are significant, but they pale in comparison to the costs incurred in training Coast Guard officers to use the vessels, and other costs, as well. Research leaves me to believe the AG is not talking about a lot of expenses the Government can’t recover. “But any objective assessment of the costs must include all expenses. It’s far more than is being indicated by the Government,” said Imbert, who is promising to reveal more details soon.
 
The Financial Times report on  Wednesday said BAE must have been relieved at the settlement. “The settlement brings to a conclusion a disagreement that arose when Trinidad cancelled an order for the three boats following cost overruns and delays. “The decision in 2010 came so late in the development phase of the contract that one of the three boats was ready to be delivered, prompting BAE to take a £100 million charge.  “Even so, the settlement will come as a relief to BAE, which has been under pressure from investors. BAE said the settlement was ‘at an amount consistent with provisions held.’”

Title: Re: AG: T&T wins $1.3b claim against UK firm.
Post by: Jah Gol on November 16, 2012, 04:54:07 AM
FRIDAY 16 NOVEMBER 2012 TEXT SIZE   BAE ships contract
The Evening Times yesterday reported that shipbuilder BAE Systems had won a £130million compensation battle with the Trinidad and Tobago Government after the Caribbean Republic had cancelled an order for three offshore patrol vessels.

We published the article after a spokeswoman for the defence contractor claimed it was to receive the cash payment.

However, BAE has in fact agreed to compensate the republic, which had cancelled the £150m order, after it claimed the delivery dates for all three ships were delayed and the combat system on two of them had failed during sea trials.

BAE Systems today declined to comment further on the result of the negotiations other than to confirm a "settlement" had been reached with the Trinidad and Tobago Government.

We are happy to clarify this here.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/bae-ships-contract-107384n.19429991
 
Title: Re: AG: T&T wins $1.3b claim against UK firm.
Post by: Bourbon on November 16, 2012, 06:27:51 AM
FRIDAY 16 NOVEMBER 2012 TEXT SIZE   BAE ships contract
The Evening Times yesterday reported that shipbuilder BAE Systems had won a £130million compensation battle with the Trinidad and Tobago Government after the Caribbean Republic had cancelled an order for three offshore patrol vessels.

We published the article after a spokeswoman for the defence contractor claimed it was to receive the cash payment.

However, BAE has in fact agreed to compensate the republic, which had cancelled the £150m order, after it claimed the delivery dates for all three ships were delayed and the combat system on two of them had failed during sea trials.

BAE Systems today declined to comment further on the result of the negotiations other than to confirm a "settlement" had been reached with the Trinidad and Tobago Government.

We are happy to clarify this here.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/bae-ships-contract-107384n.19429991
 

I guessing this is in fact a retraction of sorts?

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on November 16, 2012, 06:34:41 AM
Update from Evening Times after their article yesterday stated T&T had to pay BAE.....

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/bae-ships-contract-107384n.19429991 (http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/bae-ships-contract-107384n.19429991)

BAE eh saying nutten further.  That means we have to rely on the AG for information.....all I will say at this point, I don't trust the AG and this government further than I can throw them so I'm skeptical as to how we could come out of this on top.

Only way I could see that happening is since BAE were able to sell the vessels they didn't bother to haul us over the coals....but I eh worried the entire story will come out eventually.....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on November 16, 2012, 08:14:34 AM
I still see this as a loss for us. What about all the people who got trained.

Boi u eh know have the story people marriage mash up over this sordid mess.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on November 21, 2012, 07:39:49 AM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Attorneys__Anand_has_ruined_our_reputations-180280011.html




For the second time, information conveyed to the Parliament by Attorney General Anand Ramlogan has been deemed to be inaccurate by the affected parties who were granted a right of reply by the presiding officer.

Attorneys Reginald Armour SC, Elena Araujo and Ian Benjamin, in their separate replies yesterday, told the Parliament that the amounts given by Ramlogan as legal fees paid to them by the Central Bank were overstated by more than 400 per cent, 300 per cent and 184 per cent, respectively.

The Clerk of the Senate read into the records the responses of the three attorneys in which they all challenged the veracity of statements made by Ramlogan during the Budget debate on Thursday October 18, 2012.

Ramlogan had told the Senate that Armour for the period October 2007 to July 2012 was paid a "grand total" of $17.7 million from the Central Bank.

Armour however stated, "I wish to confirm that I did not work for the Central Bank prior to 2008 and did not receive legal feels in the sum of $17.7 million. The figure stated by the Attorney General is overstated by a multiple of more than four."

Ramlogan had also said Araujo of Araujo Law firm was paid $11.5 million. However in denying the accuracy of this figure, Araujo stated, "The figure stated by the Attorney General is overstated by approximately 300 per cent."


Ramlogan had said Benjamin received $9.3 million between October 2007 and July 2012. Benjamin, in his letter, said this figure was overstated by approximately 184 per cent.

All three attorneys pointed out that their fees were in line with the tariff of Legal Fees entitled "Practice Guide to the Assessment of Costs" issued by then acting chief justice Roger Hamel-Smith on December 20, 2007. They all noted further that the Central Bank was granted a discount rate.

All three attorneys also stated that their reputations were affected. "This inaccurate statement...has caused me to be held in public contempt and it also has the tendency to mislead as it suggests that I received unreasonable and excessive fees. The statements also misrepresent 30 years of a hard-earned reputation as an independent attorney, since I have received expressions of concern that my representation of clients might now be viewed as having a particular political agenda," Armour stated. Benjamin and Araujo made similar points.

Elena Araujo noted further, "The statement has placed the principal attorney and staff of the firm and their families at considerable personal risk of danger from the criminal elements of our society" by the Attorney General's inaccurate statements.

Ramlogan was not in the Senate when the statements were read. But the PNM bench desk-thumped as the Clerk finished reading each of three letters.

PNM Senator Fitzgerald Hinds, speaking in a private motion on governance afterwards, said three honest hard-working decent citizens had to have letters read defending their names from an attack by the Government through the mouth of the Attorney General who stood to "more applause from his colleagues" and said what has been deemed by the persons to be inaccurate.

Hinds said Ramlogan had stated previously that himself and Faris Al-Rawi had received part of $84 million in briefs from the previous Government. "And that was absolutely untrue," Hinds said. To which Al Rawi added: "Not one brief".
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on November 21, 2012, 07:40:28 AM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/___Anand__Then_say_how_much_you_were_paid-180280001.html



Attorney General Anand Ramlogan said yesterday it was "curious" that while attorneys Reginald Armour SC , Elena Araujo and Ian Benjamin disputed the figures he gave for what they received in legal fees from the Central Bank, they did not disclose how much was in fact paid to them.

Ramlogan was asked to respond to the replies given by the three attorneys which were read by the Clerk of the Senate, with a view to correcting the Hansard record. Ramlogan said if there was any dispute over the figures, one would have expected the affected parties to disclose how much they received. "There are public funds and the figures quoted were provided by the Central Bank via the Ministry of Finance," he said.

The Attorney General said the Government favoured full and frank disclosure and if there was any query, he was certain that these attorneys could provide the figures and clear the air.

"I have great respect for my colleagues and I fully appreciate that they may have grown accustomed to the PNM policy of silence with respect to the disclosure of legal fees," he said. He recalled that a previous PNM attorney general had bluntly refused to answer questions on legal fees.

"This Government takes a different view. And any attorney who wants to work for this Government, must be prepared to have their fees disclosed as I have done repeated in response to questions from the Opposition," he said. He added that this administration had hired attorneys in high-profile cases in which the public had an interest and this included the Central Bank, the Director of Public Prosecutions and the CLICO/HCU Commission of Enquiry. —Ria Taitt
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on November 21, 2012, 08:03:05 AM
He is the most dishonest , most indecent and most unprofessional AG we've had. He's got to go, they've all got to go.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: D.H.W on November 21, 2012, 08:49:31 AM
Amen!
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on November 21, 2012, 09:36:15 AM
He is the most dishonest , most indecent and most unprofessional AG we've had. He's got to go, they've all got to go.

Methinks you are being too kind.....
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: elan on November 21, 2012, 01:27:52 PM
So these 3 attorneys just decided to ruin their reputations by lying to everyone?
Title: AG’s $M fee claims wrong
Post by: Flex on November 22, 2012, 06:17:10 AM
AG’s $M fee claims wrong
By ANDRE BAGOO (newsday).
Thursday, November 22 2012


THREE letters from lawyers who were called out in the Senate by Attorney General Anand Ramlogan as having been paid high fees by the Central Bank from 2007 to 2012 were yesterday read into the Hansard in the Senate.

The action came after the three lawyers disputed the figures given by the Attorney General last month during the Budget debate.

Ramlogan told the Senate last month that for the period October, 2007 to July, 2012, Reginald Armour got $17.7 million; Elena Araujo / Araujo Law, $11.5 million; Ian Benjamin $9.3 million; Lydia Mendonca, $4.2 million; Pollonais, Blanc, de la Bastide and Jacelon, $3.4 million; Sherry- Ann Bachew-Rudd, $2.4 million; Mair and Company, $ 1million.

But Armour, in a letter to then Acting Senate President, Lyndira Oudit, dated October 22, said, “This inaccurate statement in the Senate’s record has caused me to be held in public contempt and it also has the tendency to mislead, as it suggests that I received unreasonable and excessive fees,” he said in his letter, read out by the House Clerk. “The statements also misrepresent thirty years of a hard-earned reputation as an independent attorney since I have received expressions of concern that my representation of clients might now be viewed as having a particular political agenda.”

He said his fees were discounted and the figures called out by the Attorney General were “overstated by a multiple of more than four.” Armour is an adviser to President George Maxwell Richards.

In similar terms, Araujo, too, disputed the figures and said the statements placed her family at risk. She said the figures were overstated by 300 percent.

“The statement has placed the principal attorney and staff of the firm, and their families, at considerable personal risk of danger from the criminal elements of our society,” she said in her letter.

Benjamin said, “The inaccurate statement in the Senate’s record has caused me to be held in public contempt. It has a tendency to mislead as it suggests that I received unreasonable and excessive fees.” He said the figures quoted were overstated by 184 percent. All three lawyers said they charged in conformance with the guidelines issued in 2007 by former Acting Chief Justice, Roger Hamel-Smith.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: pardners on November 22, 2012, 02:07:09 PM
Me ent holding no brief for the AG, but I would really like the three aggrieved lawyers to come out and say how much they were actually paid.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: elan on November 22, 2012, 02:23:02 PM
Me ent holding no brief for the AG, but I would really like the three aggrieved lawyers to come out and say how much they were actually paid.

Does it matter though? If Ramlogan say they get pay $3million and they say no, only to find out that they got paid $1.5 million - $2million even, then what?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: pardners on November 22, 2012, 02:27:21 PM
Me ent holding no brief for the AG, but I would really like the three aggrieved lawyers to come out and say how much they were actually paid.

Does it matter though? If Ramlogan say they get pay $3million and they say no, only to find out that they got paid $1.5 million - $2million even, then what?

Doesn't matter...is just to bring the evidence to show that the AG talking shit.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on November 22, 2012, 03:26:44 PM
10 pages and counting for an AG.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on November 22, 2012, 03:35:19 PM
Me ent holding no brief for the AG, but I would really like the three aggrieved lawyers to come out and say how much they were actually paid.

Does it matter though? If Ramlogan say they get pay $3million and they say no, only to find out that they got paid $1.5 million - $2million even, then what?

Doesn't matter...is just to bring the evidence to show that the AG talking shit.


Well just divide the figures....they stated it indirectly. One even used a very obtuse number in 184%..and although it says "approximately" it still gives you an idea.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on November 22, 2012, 03:46:31 PM
Me ent holding no brief for the AG, but I would really like the three aggrieved lawyers to come out and say how much they were actually paid.

Pardners, you can't be serious. They saying the AG is a liar. And by looking at the conduct of the AG over the past couple of years, it is very difficult to give him  the benefit of doubt. The Ag could be right, but ..................
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on November 22, 2012, 05:07:33 PM
10 pages and counting for an AG.

Ent  :).
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on November 22, 2012, 07:30:57 PM
Me ent holding no brief for the AG, but I would really like the three aggrieved lawyers to come out and say how much they were actually paid.

Why should they?  Just do the math if allyuh that interested.  If it's a matter of public record then let the government disclose it... if it THAT necessary and numbers not just being thrown about in attempt to score political points or otherwise make mischief.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Brownsugar on November 23, 2012, 06:36:34 PM
10 pages and counting for an AG.

Ent  :).

And when the thread started 6 - 7 months into his tenure, we were able to list 10 things the clown had already committed.....
Title: AG sues Wendy.
Post by: Flex on February 03, 2013, 05:09:29 AM
Former Miss Universe added to e-TecK legal action
T&T Express Reports.


AG SUES WENDY

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan has initiated legal action against former Miss Universe Wendy Fitzwilliam.

Fitzwilliam, former vice president/general manager Business Development at Evolving Technologies and Enterprise Development Company Ltd (e TecK) has been joined as a defendant in a lawsuit filed against the company’s former board of directors by Ramlogan.

Also named as a defendant in the amended lawsuit is the company’s former manager, Business Development John Soo Ping Chow.

Fitzwilliam is being accused of failing to properly advise the directors on whether to enter into a $30 million investment in 2005 with China-based Bamboo Network Ltd (BNL).

Soo Ping Chow is being accused of failing in his accounting duties related to BNL, and failing to properly advise the company’s board on the prudence of the investment, given the alleged absence of audited accounts for BNL.

The amended lawsuit was filed January 17, which means the State is now going after eight former e TecK officials, including its chairman Prof Kenneth Julien and directors Ulric McNicol, Prof Brian Copeland, Dr Rene Monteil, Eugene Tiah and Sonia Noel.

Contacted by telephone last Thursday, Fitzwilliam said: “I think it’s before the courts now and has been for quite some time. I think the matter has been thrown out at the Appeal Court level. I’m not sure. I’m just getting on top of it. So it’s before the courts. I will have lots to say when this is done, but not now.

It’s before the courts”.

The initial lawsuit was initiated by Ramlogan in June 2011 arising out of an investment in China-based BNL, in 2005, to develop e TecK’s information technology business venture as part of the former People’s National Movement (PNM) administration’s diversification of the downstream industries.

The claim alleged that the six board members failed to ascertain whether the investment with BNL was prudent and in the interest of the company or the country and that BNL failed to perform any of its obligations under the agreement arrived at by the board led by Julien.

It is also being alleged that BNL failed to return the invested sum of US$5 million (TT$30 million) despite several requests by e TecK.

At a media conference at his Port of Spain office in 2011, Ramlogan said a forensic team which included investigator Bob Lindquist had uncovered what he alleged was a lack of “due diligence” by the board members, which led to a massive financial haemorrhage.

Ramlogan said the most “startling discovery” was the lack of proper legal or financial due diligence into the nature of the investment that the board agreed to.

“That money disappeared into a black hole,” Ramlogan alleged.

The forensic team uncovered that e TecK formed an alliance with BNL in 2004, which was a small nationally managed software company in Hong Kong.

Ramlogan said when the e TecK team visited Hong Kong, they discovered several companies bearing that same name.

Ramlogan said when they returned with that information, the Ministry of Finance “in the strongest possible terms” advised e TecK not to invest in BNL.

The Finance Ministry highlighted BNL’s short track record, poor financial state and lack of proper management structure as the main reason to end the investment proposal.

“Notwithstanding this advice from the Ministry of Finance, e TecK proceeded apace,” he claimed.
Ramlogan said e TecK felt BNL had a successful Japanese operation in a growing market and had strong financial backing from Tiger Management, an investment group.

“Contrary to what was stated there, the probe team found no evidence whatsoever to substantiate this. There is no evidence of any Japanese operation owned or operated by Bamboo, nor have we seen any document evidencing any due diligence to reveal same,” he said.

“We have not been able to locate any fund under the name Tiger Technologies, while Tiger Management was an investment fund of some considerable significance, it was wound up in 2000,” he said.

“When one connects the dots, there is a lot left to be desired,” he said.

In December 2012, the Court of Appeal ruled in favour of Julien and other members who comprised the board he led, in a procedural appeal filed in the lawsuit brought against them by Ramlogan.

As a consequence, the State was ordered to pay $55,000 in legal costs to Julien and former directors Monteil, Copeland, McNicol, Tiah and Noel.

The former board members, on March 2, 2012 had filed an application before Justice Devindra Rampersad seeking to have the lawsuit dismissed on the basis that it was filed out of time.

Rampersad, however, said it would be better to have the issue addressed during the substantive trial since it appeared the evidence provided by the former board members was insufficient to justify the matter being dismissed at that stage.

Attorneys for Julien and the others contended that Rampersad’s finding was wrong in law and that there was in fact unequivocal and unchallenged evidence on which the application was based.

Justice Nolan Bereaux, in a judgment delivered last December and endorsed by Justice of Appeal Humphrey Stollmeyer, said Rampersad was plainly wrong to have deferred consideration of the issue.

Bereaux said the matter must be referred to Rampersad for him to consider it.


Title: The Worst Thing To Pass Through Trinbago!
Post by: mal jeux on October 19, 2013, 09:20:10 AM
Without a doubt, the worst thing to ever pass through the political climate of Trinidad and Tobago is that current AG. And can someone please tell me how this individual continues to hold office?

Making panday, manning, oholloran, sat etc look like innocent school boys.

calling just cool we need some thoughts on this issue from you.
Title: Re: The Worst Thing To Pass Through Trinbago!
Post by: lefty on October 19, 2013, 10:58:25 AM
d man just plain despicable..... it eh have to other word for it..........dat doh involve cussing at least.........country booky ambulance chaser steups an I from country
Title: Re: The Worst Thing To Pass Through Trinbago!
Post by: weary1969 on October 19, 2013, 11:12:53 PM
Who the best man 4 d job.
Title: Re: The Worst Thing To Pass Through Trinbago!
Post by: Tallman on October 20, 2013, 06:21:39 AM
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Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: lefty on October 20, 2013, 07:02:48 AM
anand is ah c**t, but dat was equally low and classless ............dias who we want for PM trinis cyar be serious
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: mal jeux on October 20, 2013, 06:35:43 PM
Who the best man 4 d job.

 sweetbread
Title: Re: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: D.H.W on October 20, 2013, 07:15:09 PM
anand is ah c**t, but dat was equally low and classless ............dias who we want for PM trinis cyar be serious

Too many stupid people in Trinidad.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Tallman on October 20, 2013, 08:54:17 PM
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Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 20, 2013, 11:34:51 PM
The TTSPCA on vacation or what?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: mukumsplau on October 21, 2013, 03:25:36 AM
the goat name Anancy, not Anand

Anancy d goat

he spoke the night before on people on the other side defiling animals..

poor naive innocent me now realise y dey call him 'ramgoat' lol
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on October 21, 2013, 10:16:41 AM
the goat name Anancy, not Anand

Anancy d goat

he spoke the night before on people on the other side defiling animals..

poor naive innocent me now realise y dey call him 'ramgoat' lol

Yuh very late
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 21, 2013, 03:28:34 PM
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That pictures says a 1000 words! It just goes to show how ignorant Jack and his followers are about the fable of Anancy. In the fable, Anancy is a  spider, real trickster, pain-in-arse, misfit. Not a goat.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bitter on October 21, 2013, 03:39:44 PM
http://www.junodownload.com/ultraplayer/2292263-02-01-09.m3u
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 21, 2013, 04:38:31 PM
That pictures says a 1000 words! It just goes to show how ignorant Jack and his followers are about the fable of Anancy. In the fable, Anancy is a  spider, real trickster, pain-in-arse, misfit. Not a goat.

Ah think is pun they going for... "Anand see de Goat"
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 21, 2013, 07:35:05 PM
That pictures says a 1000 words! It just goes to show how ignorant Jack and his followers are about the fable of Anancy. In the fable, Anancy is a  spider, real trickster, pain-in-arse, misfit. Not a goat.

Ah think is pun they going for... "Anand see de Goat"

Senility is a hell of a thing. Thanks for making see the pun.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on October 22, 2013, 08:41:16 PM
Senility is a hell of a thing. Thanks for making see the pun.

I had tuh think about it... still doh get it, but ah suppose it tied to some bestiality joke or something.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on October 23, 2013, 03:05:57 PM
http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,163090.html (http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,163090.html)

Quote
“Mr Dookeran told me, ‘I will form this party but I have no money’,” Harnarine said. Dookeran would later form the COP. But by the 2007 election things went sour when a HCU radio station became involved in spreading a report in relation to Ramlogan, alleging bestiality with a goat. When Harnarine fell out with the COP, all hell broke loose. “The vengeance came down on me,” he said.

Harnarine claimed Ramlogan, once a COP member but now a UNC Cabinet minister, turned against him. He said of about 22 levies against the HCU in the year of collapse in 2008, 90 percent were done by Ramlogan.

In one instance, Harnarine claimed that Ramlogan said via telephone: “Allyuh say I was with a goat!” To which, Harnarine responded: “You can’t blame me for the goat scandal.” Ramlogan, he said, then replied: “I am going to levy everything...computers, software, everything!” Ramlogan, Harnarine implied, also did shoddy work on transactions which caused the credit union $40 million in losses.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on November 03, 2013, 04:50:51 AM
Conflicting Customs documents arise on tax exemptions for luxury vehicles
By Anika Gumbs and Denyse Renne CCN Senior Multimedia Investigative Journalists
Nov 2, 2013


AG’s Land Rover Mystery

Mystery surrounds conflicting Customs and Excise documents related to tax exemptions on the importation of two Range Rovers in three years from the United Kingdom by Attorney General Anand Ramlogan.

The vehicles in question are PCR 2, a Range Rover TDV Vogue and PCX 2, a Range Rover Autobiography. 

Records at the Licensing Authority in Port of Spain show that the Range Rover TDV Vogue was registered on August 4, 2010 while the Range Rover Autobiography was registered on January 10, 2013.

Official Customs and Excise (C&E) documents show the Range Rover Autobiography, valued at £76,922.64 (TT$815,373.20) arrived in Trinidad and Tobago on July 31, 2012.

The vehicles were imported from London by Navarro’s Brokerage Ltd in Port of Spain.

A copy of the invoice shows the Range Rover Autobiography was purchased from Scott Broder (Maritime) Ltd of Radnor House, Manor Way, London.

It is unclear if the Range Rover TDV Vogue was purchased from the same company but the certified copy stated the vehicle was imported from England.

Under the Salaries Review Commission  (SRC), all Members of Parliament are exempt from paying taxes on motor vehicles over a two-year period.
Chapter 20 of the SRC outlines the transport facilities afforded to the officials who qualify for the exemption.

Among them is a maximum loan of $300,000 at a rate of interest of six per cent per annum repayable over a period of six years to facilitate the purchase of either

(a) A new motor vehicle with full exemption of Motor Vehicle Tax, Value Added Tax and Customs Duty; or
(b) A used motor vehicle with full exemption from Special Motor Vehicle Tax, Value Added Tax and Customs Duty.
 
However, while Ramlogan is entitled to these facilities, a Sunday Express investigation has found documents bearing contradictory information in relation to the multi-million-dollar-vehicles.
 
Range Rover TDV Vogue

Documents obtained by the Sunday Express show approval for the tax exemption in relation to the Range Rover TDV Vogue that list the chassis number as SALLMAM23AA322211 and engine number 0439516368DT were signed and dated by C&E officials on September 7, 2012.
 
However, a note is listed on the certified copy of the Range Rover TDV Vogue dated August 4, 2010 which reads: “Exempted from motor vehicle tax...Ministry of Finance Circular.”

 Exactly how the tax exemption form for the Range Rover TDV Vogue is dated some two years after the vehicle was registered in 2010 is unknown.

Explaining the exemption procedure granted to government and non-government officials a senior public official who spoke to Sunday Express under condition of strict anonymity said the normal procedure was for an exemption form to be produced at the time a vehicle is being purchased. 

Asked if it was possible for an exemption to be granted two years after a vehicle is registered the senior public official said: “When a vehicle is being purchased the exemption form is produced showing that taxes are not to be paid. When you purchase a vehicle the car dealer is aware if you are entitled to an exemption or not. Taxes cannot be exempted two years after a vehicle is registered. It is impossible for the bureaucracy to take two years for an exemption to be granted.  For the most the paperwork may take six  weeks to two months, certainly not two years.

Something is wrong if a vehicle is registered in 2010 and the exemption form is showing approval was granted in 2012. That is not possible. In fact, the exemption would have had to be granted before the vehicle was registered.”

Attempts by the Sunday Express to get answers from C&E and Licensing officials  were  unsuccessful  except  to  be told that the exemption form should be presented at the time the vehicle is registered.

“Questions need to be answered,” a senior transport official told the Sunday Express after viewing the documents.

The exemption form was also signed by the permanent secretary in the Ministry of the Attorney General Marlene Juman but not dated.
The Sunday Express learned that at the time of the 2010 transaction involving the Range Rover TDV Vogue, Juman was attached to the Ministry of Finance.

Permanent secretary Simeon Yearwood was attached to the Ministry of the Attorney General at the time the Range Rover TDV Vogue was purchased.

Investigations revealed Yearwood did not sign the exemption form.

And when the Sunday Express contacted Yearwood last Saturday to get confirmation as to whether he was the permanent secretary attached to the Ministry of the Attorney General in August 2010 he said: “Yes I was.”

Asked if he was aware of the purchase of the Range Rover TDV Vogue by Ramlogan and if he approved the exemption, he said: “As far as I can recall I did not approve any such exemption relating to a Range Rover.”

Range Rover
Autobiography


Further probing revealed that on September 7, 2012- the same day approval was granted for the exemption of the Range Rover TDV Vogue- documents were also submitted to C&E declaring the importation of the Range Rover Autobiography. 

The Customs declaration number is listed as A20021.

The C&E duties receipt number is listed as 25461 and dated September 10, 2012.

On the record of payment of motor vehicle tax form where Ramlogan is listed as the importer/consignee, motor vehicle tax in the sum of $368,113.12 is listed as being paid for the Range Rover Autobiography on September 10, 2012.

The chassis number for the Range Rover Autobiography is listed as SALLMAME3CA382809.

The document was signed by Mark Navarro who is listed as the importer/authorised agent and bears the C&E stamp dated September 26, 2012.

However, a second record of payment of motor vehicle form was prepared with the same information except that this time it was indicated that motor vehicle tax was not applicable to the Range Rover Autobiography.

The second document was signed by Jeffrey Gonzalez.

Checks by the Sunday Express revealed that Gonzalez is also employed at Navarro’s Brokerage Ltd.   

He could not be contacted for comment. 

And while Navarro admitted to importing the vehicles he said a confidentiality clause prevented him from revealing details relating to the business transactions of customers and the contradictory information submitted on the forms.

It is uncertain exactly who authorised the motor vehicle tax to be exempt for the Range Rover Autobiography. It is unclear if the exemption was given since one document indicates that the tax was paid while the other states the motor vehicle tax was exempt.

Not even Ramlogan could shed light on the conflicting information listed on the forms when the Sunday Express e-mailed questions to him seeking clarity in relation to the transaction.

And Juman, sources told the Sunday Express, would have been unable to approve the exemption given that her signature is affixed on another exemption document dated September 7, 2012.

Sources at the Ministry of the Attorney General said that the circumstances surrounding the exemption of the Range Rover Autobiography remain “unclear” and officials within the ministry are in the dark over the exemption being granted.

“No one knows anything  about this vehicle receiving an exemption.

“The ministry is unaware of this. I have no idea (about) what you are speaking of. From the information we have, approval was only given for the first vehicle (Range Rover TDV Vogue) to be exempted,” a source said.

Asked about the specific procedure with regard to Ramlogan receiving a tax exemption and whether he was required to  produce a receipt or evidence of the vehicle’s chassis number following the purchase of the vehicle, the source said: “If Ramlogan is purchasing the vehicle in his private capacity,  he wouldn’t need to do that.

“He wouldn’t need to do anything except sign off that he’s a minister and is entitled to the exemption.”

This, the source said, is done with the PS’s approval.

Adding that it is strange if the documents produced showed an exemption was permitted for the Range Rover Autobiography, the source said: “This is indeed cause for concern especially since the ministry is unaware about this transaction.”

In the lead-up to the local government elections on October 21,  Ramlogan publicly accused deputy political leader of the Independent Liberal Party (ILP) Anna Deonarine, of alleged wrongdoing in relation to her purchasing a stolen Range Rover from London.

Director of Public Prosecutions Roger Gaspard SC has found that there was no evidence to support the claim.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on November 03, 2013, 07:12:50 AM
Yeah well he DID say it was a facility provided to him due to his office and it was an "investment". So basically he would have two low mileage Range Rovers park up home because they changed the rules to allow the minister to use vehicles assigned to their ministries personally. So the investment would bear return when he sells them (with the value with taxes involved of course.)


I struggling to think of anything this egregious waste of seminal fluid did good since assuming his office and its a saddening thing.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Dutty on November 05, 2013, 05:59:44 PM
wow

Dis Range Rover product have all dem ILP & UNC bazodee
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jah Gol on November 10, 2013, 12:09:03 PM
AG Sells Rover
Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/AG-Sells-Rover-231311271.html

By By Anika Gumbs and Denyse Renne CCN Senior Multimedia Investigative Journalists
November 9, 2013
The million dollar luxury Range Rover TDV Vogue registered to Attorney General Anand Ramlogan has a new owner.

Security forces have however been duped over the last 15 months into believing that PCR 2—one of the two luxury Range Rovers imported by Ramlogan—still belongs to him and have wrongly extended all courtesies to the new owner.

Investigations have revealed the vehicle was sold to businessman Dev Debideen last year.

Further probing unearthed that Debideen paid the “cost price” for the Range Rover TDV Vogue.

The transaction between Ramlogan and Debideen involved money being wired to a United States bank account, the Sunday Express has learned.

Checks on various websites show that the average cost for a customised fully-loaded Range Rover is between $1.4 to $1.6 million.

When the exemptions to which Ramlogan is entitled are applied, the vehicle is reduced to approximately $.8 million.

Records at the Licensing Authority, Ministry of Transport, Wrightson Road, Port of Spain, show that the Range Rover TDV Vogue has not been transferred and the vehicle is still registered to Ramlogan.

In fact, Licensing officials are questioning why Ramlogan has opted not to transfer the Range Rover TDV Vogue to Debideen.

Documents also show that Ramlogan is listed as the owner of a white Range Rover Autobiography registered as PCX 2.

Continuing Sunday Express investigations have revealed that earlier this year security personnel approached the black Range Rover TDV Vogue that was seen parked in the VIP area of  Piarco International Airport and requested authorisation for use of the car park spot.

The VIP area is designated for the President, MPs, diplomats and other state officials and dignitaries.

The Sunday Express has learned that the insurance listed in the name of Ramlogan was shown to the security officers on duty causing them to back off.

Investigations have however revealed that at the time Ramlogan was not the owner of the Range Rover TDV Vogue.

The Sunday Express also learned that recently police officers at the Divali Nagar site in Chaguanas were also tricked into believing that the Range Rover TDV Vogue belonged to Ramlogan.

The police officers, the Sunday Express learned, approached the Range Rover TDV Vogue and upon looking at the licence plate allowed the driver and the vehicle access to the site without him paying the $15 parking fee.

The Sunday Express can prove that the Range Rover TDV Vogue and the Range Rover Autobiography were both customised to the likeness of Debideen by a relative.

Both Range Rovers were imported from London, England.

When the Sunday Express contacted Debideen last Wednesday asking whether he had purchased the Range Rover TDV Vogue from Ramlogan he remained silent.

Asked to confirm or deny information obtained by the Sunday Express that revealed the transaction for the Range Rover TDV Vogue was conducted abroad and why this was done, Debideen again did not respond to the question put to him.

Questioned further on whether both the Range Rover TDV Vogue and the Range Rover Autobiography were purchased specifically for him, Debideen said: “I have no comment.”

The telephone call was then disconnected.

Efforts to contact Debideen on Wednesday (6 p.m., 8.30 p.m.), Thursday (9 a.m.,10.30 a.m., 12.01 p.m., 2 p.m., 4.30 p.m., 6 p.m., 7 p.m., 10 p.m.), Friday (6 a.m., 8.30 a.m., 9.45 a.m., 11 a.m., 2.30 p.m., 4.30 p.m., 6 p.m.) and yesterday (6.45 a.m.)  were unsuccessful.

All messages left were not returned.

Acting on a tip, the Sunday Express went to Debideen’s Fairways, Maraval home last Monday in an attempt to get a picture of the Range Rover TDV Vogue.

However, the vehicle was not on the premises.

Further investigation then led the Sunday Express to a parking lot along the Eastern Main Road  opposite a business place, Daikin Air-conditioning Services, in Morvant.  The Range Rover TDV Vogue was parked there.

Checks also revealed that Debideen is employed at Daikin Air-conditioning Services.

It was only last week that Ramlogan accused the Sunday Express of embarking on a “fishing expedition” when asked if he was the owner of the Range Rover TDV Vogue and questioned exactly on how the vehicle was granted an exemption in 2012—some two years after it was registered. Ramlogan along with other Members of Parliament are exempted from paying Motor Vehicle Tax, Value Added Tax (VAT) and Customs Duty on new or used vehicles imported every two years under the Salaries Review Commission (SRC).

However, the vehicle is not to be sold during the two-year period or  half of the taxes are to be repaid to the State.

The certified copy for the Range Rover TDV Vogue show that the vehicle was registered on August 4, 2010.

The chassis number is listed as SALLMAM23AA322211.

However, the engine number for the Range Rover TDV Vogue is 0439516368DT, the same number listed on the certified copy of the white Range Rover Autobiography that is also listed in the name of Ramlogan.

The Range Rover Autobiography was registered on January 10, 2013.

Telephone calls to Transport Commissioner Ruben Cato to explain the discrepancy listed on the certified copies of both vehicles last Wednesday, Thursday and Friday all went unanswered.

Investigations also found that on September 7, 2012 the same day approval was granted for the exemption of the Range Rover TDV Vogue, documents were also submitted to Customs and Excise (C&E) declaring the importation of the Range Rover Autobiography.

The Customs declaration number is listed as A20021.

The C&E duties receipt number is listed as 25461 and dated September 10, 2012.

On the record of payment motor vehicle tax form, where Ramlogan is listed as the importer /consignee, motor vehicle tax in the sum of $368,113.13 is listed as being paid for the Range Rover Autobiography on September 10, 2012.

The chassis number for the Range Rover Autobiography is listed as SALLMAME3CA382809.

The document was signed by Mark Navarro, who is listed as the importer/authorised agent, and bears the C&E stamp dated September 26, 2012.

However, a second record of payment of motor vehicle form was prepared with the same information except that this time it indicated that motor vehicle tax was not applicable to the Range Rover Autobiography.

The second document was signed by Jeffery Gonzalez.

The Sunday Express has confirmed that the matter involving the contradictory information relating to the Range Rover TDV Vogue and Range Rover Autobiography is before the Integrity Commission.

In a letter dated July 26, 2013 People’s National Movement (PNM) senator Fitzgerald Hinds wrote to the Commission questioning the contradictory info relating to the two Range Rovers.

Chairman Ken Gordon could not be contacted for comment yesterday as telephone calls went unanswered.

 
Cooper: It is wrong
 
The transaction relating to the Range Rover TDV Vogue is not sitting well with head of the Public Service Reynold Cooper who has said such a move could have serious consequences if the vehicle is involved in an accident.
In a telephone interview with the Sunday Express last Tuesday Cooper said: “If the vehicle has strobe lights it must be taken off because they are given to the official. The heavy tint will also have to be removed because it is an ordinary citizen now using the vehicle. The heavy tint is only applicable to the official.”
He explained that if the vehicle of an official is involved in an accident the owner is liable.
“If the person driving the vehicle is involved in a vehicular accident where someone is knocked down or damage is caused to a property the police will be looking for the owner of the vehicle. It is unusual to sell someone a car and not do a transfer because the car is still registered in the name of the owner. Why would someone sell a car and keep it on their name? Really, what is the purpose of that. Something is wrong if someone has purchased a vehicle from the Commissioner of Police or the Attorney General and a transfer is not done,” Cooper said.
He said the buyer of the vehicle would not be able to take out insurance in their name. “You cannot insure a vehicle in the name of another person. Something is wrong if an official sold a vehicle and it is still in their name,” Cooper said.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on April 22, 2014, 01:53:35 AM
Fixin’ T&T: Anand unfit for office
...also calls for firing of Al-Rawi in wake of PCA leak
T&T Express Reports.


THERE has been another call for Attorney General Anand Ramlogan to be immediately fired after his “latest rants and tirade about the leak of the Police Complaints Authority’s (PCA) report, which further demonstrates that he is wholly unfit to hold that office”.

The call was made yesterday by Kirk Waithe, leader of civil rights group Fixin’ T&T, saying the “ongoing transgressions” of Ramlogan were worse than that of the 13 People’s Partnership Government ministers who have been removed from office to date.

Fixin’ T&T also took issue with the handling of the report on the probe into the New Flying Squad Investigative Unit by People’s National Movement (PNM) Senator Faris Al-Rawi, calling his actions injudicious.

In a media release, the non-governmental organisation (NGO) said Al-Rawi’s misrepresentation of the key findings of the report, under the cloak of parliamentary privilege, was irresponsible and called for PNM leader Dr Keith Rowley to advise President Anthony Carmona to revoke the senator’s appointment if his acts were deliberate.

But in an immediate response via a media release, the Office of the Attorney General labelled Fixin’ T&T as a branch of the PNM that masque­rades as an NGO.

“His (Waithe’s) clever conditional call for the removal of Senator Al-Rawi is a disguise for his hollow and baseless attacks on the Government,” said the AG’s release.

Fixin’ T&T said Ramlogan referred to Section 20 (3) of the PCA Act, leading the public to believe the PCA was mandated to submit the report to the Minister of National Security, but he neglected to say the minister referred to in the act is the Minister of Legal Affairs.

In response to this, Ramlogan said: “The Attorney General notes that Fixin’ T&T did not call upon Al-Rawi to disclose his source or explain the various contradictory responses given to date. They range from finding them in his mailbox to someone dropping it off at his law office.

“It likewise did not see it fit to call for any investigation to see who committed this offence. If Mr Waithe asserts that it is the line minister for the PCA who should be provided with a copy of the PCA’s report, please note that as acting Minister of Legal Affairs, the Attorney General is in fact the line minister for the PCA and no report was provided.

“A discretion given to any institution of the State must, in law, be exercised rationally, and it is clear that a copy should have been submitted to the Government, given the clear implications for national security,” the AG added

Fixin’ T&T alleges Ramlogan continues to demonstrate incompetence in the office he holds and also continues to make deliberate attempts to undermine the democracy of the country by allegedly facilita­ting and bringing bad legislation to Parliament (e.g., the “Soldier Bill” and the “No Bail for Illegal Guns Bill”).

The release pointed out Ramlogan continues to tell “blatant lies” and misrepresents the public “by asserting that soldiers in Jamaica have powers of arrest and his flip-flop on the Integrity Commission’s ability to investigate ‘emailgate’”, along with a number of other issues, inclu­ding his alleged “relentless attack on the media, journalists and reporters”.

Fixin’ T&T pointed out Ramlogan also continues to openly attack and make patently false statements about an NGO critical of the Government.

In his response, the Attorney Gen­eral said Waithe had been “obsessed” with him since he (Ramlogan) asked several questions that Waithe has refused to answer.

“In the interest of transparency, these unanswered questions are: Who is financing Fixin’ T&T? Is it the PNM? Who are the executive members of Fixin’ T&T? Does it have a constitution or does it rely on the PNM’s constitution? How was Kirk Waithe elected as its leader? Who are the members? Are they all members of the PNM? What part of Balisier House does one go to get an application form to become a member of Fixin’ T&T?

 “His nonsensical accusations are likely to get worse as time goes by,” said Ramlogan.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on April 28, 2014, 05:27:43 AM
AG SHOWS SIGNED LETTER
‘I reject any allegation of collusion or wrongdoing’
By Anna Ramdass(Express).


Eight days after a request from the Express, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan yesterday produced a signed copy of a letter written by former solicitor general Eleanor Donaldson-Honeywell SC to Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar where she withdrew her call for an investigation into attorneys in prison litigation.
She had expressed concern that the attorneys were engaged in an unethical business venture.
Ramlogan had first released the unsigned letter, allegedly from Donaldson-Honeywell on April 19 in response to questions from the Sunday Express on an article first citing the former solicitor general’s concerns.
The Sunday Express had requested further the Attorney General produce a signed letter.
On Saturday, a request was again made by the Sunday Express to provide a signed copy of the follow up letter.
Ramlogan had responded: “I was advised by the SG that she had in fact sent that letter to the PM. I do not know if I have a signed copy. You have contacted me on a weekend and staff would not be able to check my files.”
Yesterday, Ramlogan issued a copy of the letter, signed by Donaldson-Honeywell, with receipt acknowledged by the Ministry of the Attorney General dated November 2013; the specific date was obscured.
Donaldson-Honeywell resigned from the Office of the Attorney General on November 12.
Along with the letter, Ramlogan issued a release criticising the Sunday Express for its lead story “Curious case of unsigned letter” where it was reported that the letter sent by Donaldson-Honeywell to the Prime Minister on October 22, 2013, was unsigned.
Donaldson-Honeywell did not confirm or deny to the Sunday Express that she did not sign the letter.
On August 30, 2013 Donaldson-Honeywell wrote to Persad-Bissessar requesting that she initiate an investigation into attorneys involved in litigation against the State and whether there was a breach of professional ethics for indirect or direct financial gain.
The October 22 letter retracted this request.
In a release yesterday,  Ramlogan stated that the story gives the impression that there might be some wrong doing or fraud.
Ramlogan said he was not informed by Express journalists that Donaldson-Honeywell’s comments had given rise to concerns surrounding the letter and had he been afforded the opportunity to respond he would have pointed out that there was no story as he had a signed copy of the letter.
The AG stated that the allegations made by Donaldson-Honeywell “were thoroughly investigated and there was no evidence whatsoever to support the allegations being made by the Express’ sister radio station Radio i95.5FM that there was collusion on the part of the attorneys in my ministry and those external attorneys representing prisoners to procure favourable settlements”.
He stated that attorneys in his legal departments are independently appointed by the Judicial and Legal Services Commission.
“They are professionals and have the utmost integrity. I therefore reject any allegation of collusion or wrongdoing. The procedure for settlement is such that it has inherent safeguards and checks and balances. Different attorneys are randomly assigned files and senior lawyers have to review and endorse any advice recommending settlement before it comes to the Solicitor General who must approve and recommend it to the Attorney General,” stated the AG.
The State, he stated, can only defend matters where there is evidence to support a viable event.
“In the case of the Prison Service this is in fact an exception and my attorneys are criticised by judges for wasting the courts time by proceeding to defend cases with shaky defences,” stated Ramlogan.
He stated that the settlement of these kinds of matters pre-dated his appointment as AG.
Ramlogan quoted from Justice Judith Jones’s ruling in Antonio Sobers vs the AG that:
“In recent years there has been brought before the court an increasing number of cases alleging brutality by servants of the State and, in particular, police and prison officers. Statistics provided by the court reveal that of a total of 427 cases of assault and battery filed in the High Court during the period 16th of September 2005 to 31st May 2012. 302 matters were alleging assault and/or battery by persons employed by the State.
 To put it another way, 71 per cent of the cases alleging assault and/ or battery filed in the High Court of Justice between 16th September 2005 to 31st May 2012 are cases alleging abuse by way of physical assault by servants of the State. The cost of these actions to the reputation of the Police and Prison Services cannot be measured. Nor am I qualified to assess the effect of this “institutionalised” violence on our increasingly violent society.
I can however compute the cost so far in terms of money to the State and ultimately to taxpayers. Of the 302 matters filed to date 157 have been determined; of these 120 have resulted in damages being paid to the claimant. From this it is reasonable to conclude that of the 157 matters completed 37 matters were found to be without merit.
Of those 120 actions damages have only been assessed in 100 so far. Awards with respect to interest apart the State has paid or is liable to pay some $10,265,776.14 in compensation to litigants with respect to these actions. These figures do not include those persons who would be entitled to damages pursuant to this judgment”.
Ramlogan stated that for the sake of transparency, he was willing to allow the media to inspect the relevant documents in any case file concerning prisoners, so that they can see for themselves the lengthy procedures and the justification for any settlement which was recommended by the Ministry’s lawyers and the Solicitor General.
“As AG, I have not settled any matter without the recommendation, advice and support of the Solicitor General. Her handwritten notation recommending settlement will in fact be endorsed on every file. Name the matter and I will allow the file to be inspected as it will be a closed case once there was a settlement,” he stated.
He stated further that the headline quote “AG says no conflict” had no relationship whatsoever to the story.
Ramlogan stated this comment came from a different and totally unrelated story, “but was disingenuously put as part of the headline to give the false impression that I had been contacted on the statements made by Ms Donaldson-Honeywell and given the opportunity to respond.”
“The comment ‘I see no conflict’ was in response concerns by the Prisons Association over the appointment of Daniel khan as the Inspector of Prisons on the supposition that he represents prisoners in matters against the State. I replied that I saw no conflict as the premise was false as Daniel Khan has never in fact represented any prisoner or the State in any matter involving allegation against the Prison Service. This Q&A was published in the Sunday Express,” stated Ramologan.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on April 30, 2014, 01:50:27 AM
Rowley threatens march through PoS if PM does not act on ex-SG concerns
By Anna Ramdass (Express).


PROBE AG OFFICE

Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar yesterday hailed former president Arthur Napoleon Raymond Robinson as her mentor whom she learnt from and who contributed to her ascendance in political life.

Persad-Bissessar, accompanied by almost all members of her Government paid their respects to Robinson as his body lay in State at the Parliament building of the International Waterfront Complex, Port of Spain, yesterday.

Just before 10 a.m., a contingent of Government members, including most ministers and MPs, arrived at the Parliament building and lined the steps outside as they awaited Persad-Bissessar’s arrival.

When the Prime Minister arrived at 10 a.m. she greeted Government members and then entered the building where Robinson’s draped, closed casket was situated.

Persad-Bissessar stood near Robinson’s casket and bowed her head, then proceeded to greet members of his family.

The Prime Minister signed the condolence book and then departed.

Since Robinson’s State funeral in Trinidad will be held tomorrow—the day Cabinet usually meets—a special Cabinet meeting was held yesterday immediately after which the Prime Minister and Government members paid their respects.

On the Prime Minister’s Facebook page, her sentiments were shared on the first day of Robinson’s five-day State funeral.

“Today we begin our celebration honouring the life and legacy of Prime Minister Arthur NR Robinson. As a friend and political mentor, it was under Prime Minister Robinson’s guidance that I became an Alderman in the St Patrick County Council. And it was his countless valuable lessons that have greatly contributed to where I am today. During this weeklong memorial we celebrate Prime Minister Robinson’s years of service and life dedication to Trinidad and Tobago,” stated Persad-Bissessar.

Since she became Prime Minister in 2010, Persad-Bissessar paid special attention to Robinson, honouring him with a grand birthday party that year where she invited children to celebrate his 84th birthday at the Diplomatic Centre, St Ann’s.

“Many people think of her as the first female Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago, but I think of her not because of the fact that she is female but because of the courage, the persistence, the interest that she has shown in the people of Trinidad and Tobago and I will add particularly in the children of Trinidad and Tobago,” Robinson said then.

“I wish to express my own admiration of the history of Mrs Kamla Persad-Bissessar from early days in the fight to be a member of Parliament on to be the leader of the country as Prime Minister, this is a path that no one else has pursued... no one else has been able to survive after the task they have had before them,” he added.

Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley also paid his respects yesterday, as he viewed Robinson’s casket and greeted members of his family.

Rowley signed the condolence book and then left.

Opposition MPs Fitzgerald Jeffrey and Alicia Hospedales as well as Opposition Senator Faris Al-  Rawi also paid their respects and greeted Robinson’s family.

A-Rawi told the media Robinson was a man who transcended every boundary possible and who left an indelible mark on the country and the world.

“Trinidad is definitely a lot darker today and has been since Mr Robinson passing but I do hope that we all remember that we should reflect on the positive aspects of his existence and his contributions to Trinidad and Tobago in a time when our country desperately needs sight of very good leadership,  committed and strong personalities who are prepared to do the right thing because it’s the right thing to do. I think Mr Robinson’s life’s work stands as testimony for that,” said Al-Rawi.

Trade Minister Stephen Cadiz said Robinson lived an “interesting life”.

“I became aware of him in the 1970s when he left the PNM. After 1970 I supported Robinson and the NAR. I thought what he did was what T&T needed in 1986 and I think the country benefitted from what he did and is still benefitting today,” he said.

Cadiz said it was proper for Robinson to be given a full State funeral in both Trinidad and Tobago so the people of the sister island had an opportunity to pay their respects to a son of the soil.

Robinson’s body will lie in State today at the Parliament building.

Tomorrow a State funeral will take place at the National Academy for Performing Arts (NAPA).

On Friday and Saturday Robinson’s body will be in Tobago  where his burial will take place.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: zuluwarrior on May 01, 2014, 06:59:15 AM
http://webopac.ttlawcourts.org/LibraryJud/Judgments/HC/massobion/2011/cv_11_02720DD05feb2014.pdf


Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: zuluwarrior on May 01, 2014, 07:46:21 PM
Door open for new prison litigation probe
Anand must meet with stakeholders
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Thursday, May 1, 2014
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Attorney General Anand Ramlogan
In the face of mounting public pressure, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar has ordered Attorney General Anand Ramlogan to revisit allegations of collusion involving lawyers engaged in prison litigation.
 
 
Persad-Bissessar made the decision yesterday, calling on Ramlogan to meet with acting Solicitor General Carol Hernandez, Commissioner of Prisons Conrad Barrow, Inspector of Prisons Daniel Khan, Minister of Justice Emmanuel George and the Chief State Solicitor Christophe Grant to revisit the matter and to chart the best way forward.
 
 
Her statement came even as the Law Association and Association of Law Officers added its voice to the list of those calling for an independent probe into allegations made by former solicitor general Eleanor Donaldson-Honeywell, who expressed concern about what she called an “unethical business” venture in prison litigation matters.
 
 
Persad-Bissessar’s decision also came in the face of an ultimatum from Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley that she call a probe and order Ramlogan to step aside, or else he would launch public protests similar to that in the Section 34 matter. In a release yesterday, the PM said the decision to revisit the matter had come after Donaldson-Honeywell reiterated her call for a probe in the matter to continue and the Prison Officers’ Association also called for the same.
 
 
Noted recent issues
Persad-Bissessar said she was under the impression that when she (PM) dealt with the matter after it first raised in a letter last August by Donaldson-Honeywell, that the former solicitor general had expressed approval with how it was handled.
 
 
The PM said that was the impression she had when Donaldson-Honeywell subsequently penned a second letter which stated: "Honourable Prime Minister, your proactive attention to this matter is greatly appreciated as it underscores your recognition of the interests of those engaged in civil litigation on behalf of the State and their clients in the Prison Service.
 
“In light of the discussions with the Attorney General, through your intervention, I am now confident that the issues raised in my letter will be adequately addressed and accordingly would no longer seek further investigation through your office.” The PM said: “As for the objections carried in the media about my own handling of the particular report, given that the former solicitor general is of the view that the matter had been appropriately handled by me, who else could or should question her professional assessment? 
 
“In my respectful view, the issue was treated with the urgency and seriousness required and the former solicitor general's expressed opinion validates my actions in this regard.” Notwithstanding that, the PM said she had noted Donaldson-Honeywell’s statement this week that she expected the probe to continue and the POA’s calls for it to be probed further and had advised the AG to meet with the key stakeholders to chart a way forward. 
 

I am wondering would anything change after the AG speak to these people ? Idont think so .
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on May 03, 2014, 01:47:35 AM
Probe into unethical lawyers: prison officers refuse to meet with Anand
By Asha Javeed (Express).


SNUB FOR AG

The Prison Officers Association (POA) has refused to meet with Attorney General Anand Ramlogan to discuss concerns about attorneys and prison inmates involved in prison litigation against the State.

Their refusal comes two days after Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar ignored calls for Ramlogan to step aside from any probe involving his ministry and lawyers in prison litigation and instructed him to meet with various stakeholders to address the POA complaints.

In refusing Ramlogan’s invitation to meet at his ministry on Monday, the POA maintains that only an independent investigation done on the matter would be adequate to determine why certain cases were settled and judgments filed in default for others.

Those issues, said president of the POA Ceron Richards, were important as money paid to prisoners could be ploughed into improving the prisons.

Richards told the Express that he was not being “disrespectful” but “the AG’s office is central to this matter and we reject any call for such a meeting”.

“Our consistent and clear call is for an independent investigation,” he said.

In a  statement issued yesterday, the POA said it was disappointed by Persad-Bissessar’s decision to appoint Ramlogan to a team to address their concerns.

“It is our firm view that this decision will not result in any objective outcome since the Attorney General has reported that a previous investigation done by his office revealed nothing to substantiate the claims made by the former solicitor general. 

“Additionally, it does not seem logical to us that it is prudent as it relates to transparency for the parties named by the Prime Minister to undertake such an investigation since to do so will appear that ‘himself is investigating himself’.  That is, each office named by the Prime Minister has a critical role in the process of handling these matters and is being asked to review themselves,” the POA said.

On Wednesday, Persad-Bissessar said she had noted the concerns of former solicitor general Eleanor Donaldson-Honeywell, SC and that of the POA to have the matter probed further and had set up a seven member team which includes Ramlogan, Acting Solicitor General Carol Hernandez, Commissioner of Prisons Conrad Barrow, Inspector of Prisons Daniel Khan, Minister of Justice Emmanuel George and Chief State Solicitor Christophe Grant to address concerns.

Furthermore, the POA said it was concerned about statements made by Ramlogan “on a television station which appeared to convey very negative connotations about Prison Officers in the conduct of their duties as keepers of the states prisoners and those responsible for public safety.”

“This is worrying and has deepened our concern about the Attorney General’s involvement in this investigation,” it said.

The probe centres on the complaints made by former solicitor general Solicitor General Eleanor Donaldson-Honeywell, SC.

On August 30, 2013 Donaldson-Honeywell bypassed line minister AG Ramlogan and wrote to Persad-Bissessar suggesting that a three-pronged investigation by the Inspector of Prisons, the Law Association and the Police Service be undertaken to determine whether attorneys involved in prison litigation are engaged in an “unethical business venture” which “may amount inter alia to breaches of professional ethics by the Attorneys involved and may have the effect of perverting the course of justice in litigation against the State.

She was also concerned “whether there has been over the period from mid-2010 a conflict of interest in certain key office holders increasingly taking action to support the said unethical business for direct and/or indirect financial gain.

Persad-Bissessar said she had forwarded that letter to Ramlogan to address the concerns. Ramlogan said he had addressed all of Donaldson-Honeywell’s concerns, which was encapsulated in another letter dated October 28, which said there was no further need for investigation by the Prime Minister.

The POA said: “The Prison Officers Association wishes to express its deep disappointment and finds it unfortunate that in light of what appears to be clear evidence of an unethical practice in the Jamal Sambury case, that the Honourable Prime Minister has not acceded to our public request for an urgent independent investigation into these matters but rather has chosen to refer the investigation to the Office of the Attorney General.”

On February 5, Master Patricia Sobion-Awai, in a 24-page ruling, called for an investigation to be launched into the circumstances surrounding how a prison inmate Jamal Sambury, represented by attorney Gerald Ramdeen, seemed to be able to have “copied” large segments of statements of successful litigants who won their matters before the High Court. 

The matter was referred to the Law Association by Registrar of the Supreme Court Marissa Robertson and is now before its disciplinary committee.

The POA said yesterday it refused an invitation to meet and participate in discussions surrounding this investigation “since we remain convinced that only an independent investigation  will adequately serve to determine the legitimacy or otherwise of the claims being made.  Therefore, the POA will not support any other type of investigation into this matter.”

The POA described the matter as “extremely serious” since the handling of these matters and its implications for prison officers were raised with the Solicitor General’s Office since May 2011.

It said the situation was severely damaging the morale of prisons officers and reflected a poor image locally, regionally and internationally. 

“The issue of officers’ safety and security as it relates to this matter was also raised as it became evident that the criminals were using these cases and adverse media coverage as a justification to attack and murder prison officers who are forced to work under conditions and perform their duties based on the systems and resources supplied by the State,” it said.


Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 03, 2014, 02:03:10 AM
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Richards told the Express that he was not being “disrespectful” but “the AG’s office is central to this matter and we reject any call for such a meeting”.

“Our consistent and clear call is for an independent investigation,” he said.

In a  statement issued yesterday, the POA said it was disappointed by Persad-Bissessar’s decision to appoint Ramlogan to a team to address their concerns.

“It is our firm view that this decision will not result in any objective outcome since the Attorney General has reported that a previous investigation done by his office revealed nothing to substantiate the claims made by the former solicitor general.

“Additionally, it does not seem logical to us that it is prudent as it relates to transparency for the parties named by the Prime Minister to undertake such an investigation since to do so will appear that ‘himself is investigating himself’.  That is, each office named by the Prime Minister has a critical role in the process of handling these matters and is being asked to review themselves,” the POA said.

Sense.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: zuluwarrior on May 03, 2014, 12:26:47 PM
Lawyers in AG’s former law firm CLIENT SWAPPING


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SWRHA lawyer in the dark
Anika Gumbs-Sandiford
Published:
Monday, June 20, 2011

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan
A battery of attorneys from Freedom House Law Chambers—the law firm which Attorney General Anand Ramlogan formerly headed—is allegedly engaging in client swapping regarding a number of lawsuits they filed against the South West Regional Health Authority (SWRHA). Attorneys, who initiated legal action against SWRHA on their clients’ behalf, have suddenly ‘jumped ship’, and are now defending the same Regional Health Authority they brought legal action against. While ‘A-Team’ attorney, Gerald Ramdeen—who has been retained by Ramlogan together with Alan Newman, QC, Guyanese Akbar Ali, British forensic accountant Martin Hall, and local attorney Mark Seepersad, to ferret out instances of corruption and malfeasance in state enterprises—is now on record representing several claimants in numerous matters against the SWRHA. Attorneys Cindy Bhagwandeen, Kent Samlal, Rachel Maikhoo and Marissa Ramsoondar who are or were attached to Freedom House Law Chambers, previously represented the claimants.

Settlements
The matter does not end there though. Sunday Guardian investigations have unearthed that settlements are being struck behind the back of Harrikissoon and Company—the law firm that has represented the interest of the SWRHA for the past eight years. The Sunday Guardian has learnt that a retainer is paid to the law firm per month for legal services provided to SWRHA. Approximately five lawsuits per month may be filed against SWRHA by disgruntled patients seeking compensation and damages for loved ones. Sunday Guardian investigations revealed that within recent times, deals are being offered to claimants, the result of which, if accepted, brings litigation to a premature end. Under the Civil Proceedings Rules 1998 as amended, a claimant that is successful in a High Court Action may be entitled to prescribed costs which are usually calculated based on the value of the claim or the amount awarded or the amount agreed between the parties.

Depending on the matter, prescribed cost may vary anywhere from $30,000 to millions of dollars. Not only is the alleged action of some of the attorneys a breach of the Legal Profession Act, sources said, but also a conflict of interest in instances where the said attorneys initiated the matters involved. Section 26 (1) of the Act states: An attorney may represent multiple clients only if he can adequately represent the interest of each and if each consents to such representations after full disclosure of the possible effects of multiple representations. Embroiled at the centre of the controversy is Bhagwandeen, who has been retained by the Authority in a matter involving Tricia Francis against SWRHA and the Attorney General. Documents obtained by Sunday Guardian identifies Bhagwandeen as the instructing attorney in several of the lawsuits filed by Ramlogan against SWRHA before his appointment to the Attorney General’s office. Before Ramlogan’s elevation he was known for his vociferous stance in defending the civil rights of citizens. It was only recently the Attorney General stated that in some instances it was cheaper to settle ongoing matters instead of engaging in lengthy litigation disputes at the cost of taxpayers.

Bhagwandeen now defending SWRHA
Ramlogan, in handing over the Freedom House office, assured his former clients of the confidence he had in Bhagwandeen whom he had chosen to lead the Harris Street, San Fernando law chambers as he embarked on a new career path. However, in an about turn, Bhagwandeen has reportedly now been retained to represent the interests of the SWRHA. Sunday Guardian investigations revealed that sometime around February 22, the Authority retained Bhagwandeen to represent the said client. However, within days of Bhagwandeen’s retention, the firm of Harrikissoon and Company expressed surprise over the move. Concerns were raised on whether the Board was apprised that Bhagwandeen along with other colleagues attached to Freedom House Law Chamber initiated several matters against SWRHA, some of which are completed and some of which are still ongoing. Investigations further revealed that it was noted that given Bhagwandeen’s involvement in the said matters it could be perceived as a conflict on interest. The Authority was also warned of the severe implications such a move can have for both SWRHA and the Attorney General who is also a defendant in this matter and was the former head of Freedom House.

A pre-action protocol letter issued to SWRHA last August objected to the move. An excerpt of the pre-action protocol letter stated: “This matter is against SWRHA and the Attorney General. You are once again reminded of the very severe consequence that will occur as to the selection of Ms Cindy Bhagwandeen to handle the conduct of this matter. The rules quoted in the Legal Profession Act as regards to the selection of attorneys in the conduct of legal matters must be adhered to.” Harrikissoon further noted that based on the medical report dated January 20, 2010, submitted by Dr Hari D Maharaj it can be inferred that the claimant intends to seek a lucrative settlement. He said while the claimant’s attorney did not indicate any specific sum for general or special damages it was suggested that SWRHA should accept liability and then be fixed with an exorbitant claim for damages. Copies of the pre-action protocol letter were also forwarded to secretary of the board, Carol Joseph and the Authority’s fired chief executive officer, Paula Chester-Cumberbatch. No response has been forwarded to the law firm to date regarding the said matter.

Claimants offered deals
Instead, the firm has been placed in a precarious position in a Workman’s Compensation matter involving Andy Joseph against the SWRHA. Sources revealed shocking plans to settle a matter without the necessary information being related to the law firm representing the SWRHA. The claimant’s attorney brought the proposal to the knowledge of Harrikissoon and Company when the matter came up for hearing on May 24. Sources revealed that Harrikissoon objected to the proposal on the basis of two reasons—the said application ran afoul of the limitation period within which such an application can be made and the worker did not qualify under the said application. Insisting that a proposal was offered, Harrikissoon was then advised to contact the Authority’s senior legal officer to confirm the agreement. Harrikissioon confirmed in a document that a directive was given for the matter to be settled at the said hearing or else the file would be forwarded to another attorney. The decision, however, is not sitting well with the law firm as it is on record stating that they failed to concur with the view that the said matter ought to have been settled.

Bodeo brought before Health Minister
In another instance, the Authority’s chairman, Dr Lackram Bodeo was brought to the attention of Health Minister Therese Baptiste-Cornelis in the matter—CV 2011-00443 Jerrick Loutan (a minor by his mother as his next of kin and next friend Mahadaye Boodram) against SWRHA. The Sunday Guardian learnt that the law firm of Harrikissoon and Company received directions from Bodeo that the legal papers in the Jerrick Loutan matter be forwarded to attorney Larry Lalla. But further investigations revealed that Harrikissoon took issue with the stance taken, objecting to the course of action adopted by Bodeo. Citing grounds for dismissing the directive, Harrikissoon informed Bodeo that the Board is the decision maker for the Authority and not an individual member or chairman.

RHA ACT says:
The Regional Health Authority Act Ch 29:05 at Sub Section 20(1) implies that the decision to appoint an attorney to represent SWRHA is to be undertaken by the Board and not an individual director or chairman. The Regional Health Authorities like most other Statutory Corporations acts through its chief executive officers. The members of the Board are not capable of directing and or instructing the employees.

Ramdeen: Whose concern is this?
“If I as an attorney have been briefed by the Government to represent the Government in certain matters relating to probes in the investigations and I have a legal firm what is the difficulty in me suing the Regional Health Authority (RHA).  Why is that allegation of  any importance to anyone. My entire practice of law has been in the field of public law; my entire reputation has been based on suing the State; I don’t see why anybody  is making an issue out of that. “What is the link of being part of the ‘A-Team’ and suing the RHA; the SWRHA is not under investigation.” Asked if he has been retained as the attorney for the claimant, he said: “I would have to check my records and see what matters I am listed in for the claimants. I have a team of attorneys that work with me. The matters before the High Court are matters of public record. Of whose concern is this?  It is matter of public record that I represent the Attorney General in a number of matters. I do not see why is that a concern of someone who does not want to divulge what their position is? “I am briefed in a number of matters where I represent Freedom House as counsel. Only last Friday I was briefed in an Appeal to represent Freedom House against the Public Services Commission.”

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Bhagwandeen responds
Confirming  she has been retained by SWRHA to represent the Authority in a matter, Bhagwandeen said: “I am no longer on record for any clients who are now suing the SWRHA.” Asked if she was on record for previous clients who filed action against SWRHA, Bhagwandeen responded: “Depends on which clients you are speaking about. Clients have taken their matters elsewhere. I am not on record for any of those clients; they have chosen to take their matters to other attorneys.” Quizzed on whether she is on record for any client suing the SWRHA, Bhagwandeen replied: “I have been briefed in only one matter regarding the SWRHA and that is because I have no clients who are suing the SWRHA; so there is no conflict of interest. All my matters involving clients who had previously sued the SWRHA have been concluded or they have chosen to take their matters to other attorneys which I would have no conflict of because I would have no dealings with those matters. “I have been retained for SWRHA, not the Attorney General, and in one matter. One lonesome brief and one brief is no reason to get rid of the client or anything of the sort. The way how it’s coming across is because you all think it’s because I am affiliated to the Attorney General.”

AG responds
Commenting on the allegations, Ramlogan said: “It would be unethical for any attorney to switch lanes from representing the claimant and, thereafter represent the defendant in the same case. It would be a serious matter that would be in breach of the Legal Profession Act and may warrant disciplinary action by the Law Association if that is the case. If it is not in the same case then the concerns do not arise.” In a follow-up interview, Ramlogan added: “I have checked my own records at the ministry and my information is my former firm and the attorneys there never, never acted for the claimant. They were not retained by the State to represent the Attorney General in this matter. I am advised Bhagwandeen has been retained by SWRHA.”

SWRHA
Chairman of the SWRHA Bodeo in response to the matter via e-mail stated when he took office this Board inherited certain arrangements pertaining to the handling of legal matters in the SWRHA. These arrangements included a monthly retainer, a brief fee, and refresher payments for medical negligence cases. “It was also discovered that one law firm handled virtually all cases in the last eight (8 ) years' despite the recommendation that this firm was to receive only minor briefs and and matters relating to public law,’ Bodoe explained. Fees paid to this firm up to 2009, Bodoe said, represent a substantial sum and some of these legal matters are still ongoing. At the moment the law firm of Harrikissoon and Company, Bodoe stated, holds the briefs for the majority of legal matters. However, the Board is in the process of reviewing all legal matters and is currently compiling a panel of attorneys representing different areas of expertise and legal experience. As a result, different attorneys have been retained in a number of matters. Based on Bhagwandeen’s considerable experience in the field of medical negligence, she was assigned as instructing attorney in the matter involving the SWRHA and Tricia Francis. However, the assignment of any attorney to any case is subject to review pending finalisation of the panel. When the panel is finalised, Bodoe stated that the Board believes that the legal work of the Authority will be more equitably distributed.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on May 03, 2014, 01:48:39 PM
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Richards told the Express that he was not being “disrespectful” but “the AG’s office is central to this matter and we reject any call for such a meeting”.

“Our consistent and clear call is for an independent investigation,” he said.

In a  statement issued yesterday, the POA said it was disappointed by Persad-Bissessar’s decision to appoint Ramlogan to a team to address their concerns.

“It is our firm view that this decision will not result in any objective outcome since the Attorney General has reported that a previous investigation done by his office revealed nothing to substantiate the claims made by the former solicitor general.

“Additionally, it does not seem logical to us that it is prudent as it relates to transparency for the parties named by the Prime Minister to undertake such an investigation since to do so will appear that ‘himself is investigating himself’.  That is, each office named by the Prime Minister has a critical role in the process of handling these matters and is being asked to review themselves,” the POA said.

Sense.

He went SJGS so he must be talking sense ent Preacher boi.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: zuluwarrior on May 08, 2014, 05:34:20 AM

DPP: Cops best suited
Published:
Thursday, May 8, 2014
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Anand Ramlogan
The issue of concocted, exaggerated civil assault cases filed by prisoners seeking unjust compensation from the State is now under a criminal probe. The latest development was announced by Director of Public Prosecutions Roger Gaspard, SC, yesterday, even as the Attorney General Anand Ramlogan was ordered by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar to revisit his probe into allegations of an “unethical business venture” made by former solicitor general Eleanor Donaldson-Honeywell relating to prisoner abuse litigation.
 
 
Given the announcement of an immediate criminal probe, reliable government sources said last night that Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, who has been under criticism for twice referring the matter back to Ramlogan for investigation, may find the perfect excuse to scrap her decision and leave the matter in the hands of the police. There has been a chorus of objection against Ramlogan’s involvement in the probe ordered by the Prime Minister, given the role of his ministry in the settlement of cases filed by prisoners.
 
The Opposition had called for his removal from office pending the probe and has threatened to take to the streets in demonstrations if that was not done, while the Prison Officers Association has refused to meet with the team appointed by the PM, which comprised the acting solicitor general Carol Hernandez, chief state solicitor Christophe Grant, Minister of Justice Emmanuel George, Commissioner of Prisons Conrad Barrow, Inspector of Prisons Daniel Khan, if the AG was involved.
 
A hint of the PM’s review of her decision was contained in a statement issued by the AG on Monday which announced the postponement of the meeting of stakeholders following the assassination of Senior Counsel Dana Seetahal on Sunday and the summoning of an emergency meeting of the National Security Council to discuss the matter later that day. “The Honourable Prime Minister will also use this period to give deeper consideration to the concerns expressed by the Prison Officers’ Association,” the release had said.
 
 
Sufficient material
In his press statement yesterday, Gaspard said he was of the view that a police investigation was “the most prudent course” as the Police Service was “the organisation with the resources and investigative experience for such a serious task.” On August 30 last year, Donaldson-Honeywell, who resigned in January, had complained to the PM of breaches of professional ethics by attorneys involved in prison abuse litigation which “may have the effect of perverting the course of justice.”
 
Persad-Bissessar had referred her complaint back to Ramlogan, who said he had investigated the matter and found no evidence to support the allegations Donaldson-Honeywell had recommended that the matter be referred to the Inspector of Prisons, Law Association and the Police Service for investigation.
 
In a three-page statement, Gaspard said that having perused the February 5 ruling of High Court Master Patricia Sobion-Awai in the case of Jamal Sambury vs the State, and supporting court documents, “I am of the unflinching view that there is more than sufficient material contained therein to warrant an investigation into the commission of several offences, including conspiracy to pervert the course of public justice and conspiracy to defraud the State of Trinidad and Tobago.”
 
He pointed out that “in terms of the acceptance of any investigative findings, both in the courts of justice as well as the court of public opinion, such a course prevents any unfair allegation of bias being made about the Office of (the) Attorney General or the incumbent (Ramlogan) and ensures that any police investigation is not in any way contaminated.”
 
 
Cut and paste info
Sobion-Awai had made findings in the case of Sambury, a prisoner who claimed to have been beaten by police officers at the holding cell of the Princes Town Magistrates Court in October 2010, including false medical claims not supported by evidence. While the State accepted liability in his case, it disputed the gravity of injuries the prisoner claimed he sustained.
 
Sobion-Awai also raised concerns regarding the wholesale “cut and paste” of information in Sambury’s witness statement from a separate matter involving another prisoner, Jamal Fortune, which were intended to “mislead the court.” “To my mind, it was implausible that two persons could experience separate events involving different persons in such an identical manner,” Sobion-Awai stated. The assessment of what Sambury is entitled to comes up for hearing on May 21.
 
 
Bring on probe
Both Ramlogan and attorney Gerald Ramdeen, the lead advocate in the Sambury case, last night said they welcomed the criminal investigation and hoped for a speedy resolution. Speaking by telephone, Ramlogan said: “I welcome any investigation by anyone, anywhere, anytime into this or any other case so that the public can be reassured that the legal business of the State is being conducted with the utmost independence and integrity.
 
“It is my hope there will be a swift investigation into this matter because it does not bode well for public confidence in the administration of justice.” Ramlogan said in the Sambury case, the lawyers from the solicitor general and chief state solicitor department would have to defend, justify and explain the position they adopted in the matter and “therefore this investigation can only lead to a vindication of my ministry.” Ramdeen, in a separate telephone interview, said he was “confident that in the end my name will be cleared.
 
“I welcome the intervention of the DPP in this matter to finally bring a resolution to all the questions that have been asked,” he added.
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Post by: zuluwarrior on May 11, 2014, 01:17:39 PM
Former attorneys general on prison scandal: No support from Dana for AG
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Sunday, May 11, 2014
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Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj, SC
Three former attorneys general picked apart slain state prosecutor Dana Seetahal’s last article “Investigate what, exactly?’ published in the May 4 Sunday Express and have found no evidence of support for current Attorney General Anand Ramlogan in the present controversy over the solicitor general and the prison litigation issue.
 
 
In the hours after Seetahal’s murder, Ramlogan said the country had lost a “titan” and made reference to her last article, saying that she was one of the few people who provided support for him in this matter. “I have lost a dear friend and colleague. Our last conversation was about her column in yesterday’s Express. It provided support for me,” Ramlogan stated in his letter then. He had said Seetahal not only came to his defence but also supported his position.
 
But three former AGs—Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj, SC, John Jeremie, SC, and Bridgid Annisette-George spoke with the Sunday Guardian in the days after Seetahal’s assassination and all three found that Seetahal’s widely-read article did not support Ramlogan as he interpreted.
 
 
Maharaj: It’s no defence
Maharaj said Seetahal’s column “cannot properly be put forward by the Attorney General as a defence to the allegations.”
 
“Dana Seetahal stated that the Solicitor General referred to the conduct of certain attorneys who were acting for certain prisoners and those investigations against those lawyers were to be conducted by the Disciplinary Committee of the Law Association. Seetahal also referred to the allegations in the Solicitor General’s letter which referred to certain key office holders who allegedly increasingly took action to support the business of prisoners’ litigation against the State for the direct or indirect financial gain,” Maharaj said.
 
He said taking Seetahal’s points into consideration, the question that should follow was who the Solicitor General was referring to when she said “certain key office holders?” “She was certainly not referring to the certain private lawyers who appeared for certain prisoners against the State. That is why there is need for a fair, independent and impartial investigation to identify the individuals,” he said.
 
“She was asking the Prime Minister in the last paragraph of her letter to cause an investigation in the matter by the Inspector of Prisons, the Law Association and the Police Service,” he said. Maharaj said if office holders of the State were supporting the alleged business of certain private lawyers in the prison litigation for direct or indirect financial gain “that could amount to corruption and of perverting the course of public justice which are criminal offences.”
 
 
Jeremie, SC, agrees
Former People’s National Movement (PNM) AG, John Jeremie also added his voice to the matter. “Unfortunately even after the most careful study, I am unable to find any expression of ‘support’ in the said column for the Honourable Attorney General (as he put it) in terms of the ‘present dispute’ involving the prison service litigation in the column,” Jeremie said. Jeremie said there were queries raised in the column as to whether the Solicitor General should simply have reported the matter to the Prime Minister.
 
“Miss Seetahal suggested that the police and the Law Association might have been better placed to treat with aspects of the investigation. There is not stated anywhere in the column support for the Honourable Attorney General in this matter,” he added.
 
 
Annisette-George: Important piece of information missing
Annisette-George said Seetahal’s last article could be interpreted in two ways— neither of which showed support for the Attorney General. In an email response to the Sunday Guardian, she said, “One interpretation could be a challenge to credibility and another very valid interpretation could, in our very Trini way, be saying that she dare not!”
 
Annisette-George said the article made some readers ponder why the Solicitor General would bypass her immediate supervisor—the Honourable Attorney General—and complain to his boss—the Honourable Prime Minister and still find it necessary to use such “cautious and covert language.”
 
“The shelter which the Honourable Attorney General found in the article is certainly subject to interpretation, and that is why an independent investigation is necessary to settle all interpretations and de-shroud all of the facts after full and frank disclosure is made” she said. Annisette-George said Ramlogan has neither admitted or denied in public whether any of the Solicitor General complaints were ever brought to his attention before she turned to the Prime Minister.
 
“To me that is an important piece of information missing from the factual matrix,” she said. “It escapes me to understand how the Honourable Attorney General could take refuge in the said article. The article has never said that there was no justification for an investigation.” she said. It could be that the author was “advancing that the Law Association was the only and the proper authority to undertake an independent investigation of the complaints of the then Solicitor General,” Annisette-George added.
 
“The article highlights the covert language of the letter of the SG and  ends with a very poignant question: If there is evidence of an unethical business venture engaged in by attorneys-at-law acting for prisoners or key office holders taking action to support the unethical business for financial gain, why has she not referred to it?”
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Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on May 12, 2014, 07:44:34 AM
‘Stolen’ Range Rover still stuck in T&T
By Denyse Renne denyse.renne@trinidadexpress.com


Six months after announcing on a political platform his intention to return a “stolen” Range Rover to its rightful owner, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan is yet to do so.
In an e-mailed response to the Express, the Attorney General said, following the death of Karl Hudson-Phillips QC, “I do not know which attorney from his firm has assumed conduct of this case which he was actively pursuing”.

The story of the allegedly “stolen” vehicle, which was purchased by deputy leader of the Independent Liberal Party (ILP) Anna Deonarine, made headlines during last year’s local government election.
Checks by the Express have revealed that the vehicle— licensed PCM 1100 —remains parked at the Mangra Trace police compound in Aranjuez, where it has been impounded for the past two years.
The black Range Rover, which was at the centre of controversy, was reported stolen from Lombard Vehicle Management in the United Kingdom between May 2008 and December 2008. The vehicle, which was repainted white, was then bought by Deonarine.

The issue was raised by Ramlogan, who said then St Joseph candidate and Crime Watch host Ian Alleyne had brought to his attention various discrepancies following the purchase of the vehicle.
When the Express contacted Deonarine over the weekend she directed queries to her attorney Keith Scotland.

Contacted, Scotland said: “As of today (Saturday) I have met with my client and we have gotten correspondence from the Police Complaints Authority following checks with the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) that there was no criminal culpability relative to my client.”
Scotland said the next course of action will include verifying whether or not there is official documentation “that this vehicle was stolen and, if not, what power is the State using in keeping the vehicle”.

He said Deonarine is anxious for closure.
“We have done our own checks on the vehicle and nothing untoward has happened. We will be writing to the State (Solicitor General’s Department) in an attempt to get documentation,” he said.
The Express also understands that letters have already been dispatched to Customs and Excise. Though the letters have been acknowledged, the requested documentation is yet to be provided.
Alleyne at the time had produced an original police file bearing documentation pertaining to the investigation.

When the Express contacted acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams last October as to how a police file was brandished on a political platform by a civilian, Williams said, “Now is election time, I will comment after.”

To date, he is yet to comment, despite being asked on numerous occasions.
Local attorney Jessica Maicoo was retained by Barry Hancock of BR International Ltd, who was acting on behalf of Lombard Vehicle Management (LVM), the legal owner of the vehicle.
Maicoo wrote to Attorney General Ramlogan on October 17, 2013, requesting that Range Rover Diesel Sport Estate 2.7 TDV6 S five-door automatic vehicle, locally licensed as PCM 1100 and bearing the Chassis/Frame N SALLSAA138A179106, be returned.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: AB.Trini on May 16, 2014, 10:08:16 PM
Stuck yeah right - is Trinis that eh going noway- yuh know in time like everything else people go fuh get about that and they go jump and wave and put they hand in the air drink ah rum nd whine down the place and be the happiest people in the Caribbean cause  nobody eh taking them things on - on to the next thing shame shame that we doh keep on to these people and demand accountability
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on May 21, 2014, 01:59:16 AM
Fixin T&T calls for AG to be fired
T&T Express Reports.


Fixin’ T&T yesterday said the justice system in Trinidad and Tobago was being undermined by Prime Minister  Kamla Persad-Bissessar’s reluctance to fire Attorney General Anand Ramlogan SC as a result of the Jamal Sambury issue. 

In a press release yesterday Fixin’ T&T said, “Contrary to assertions by Mr Ramlogan that ‘no allegations have been made against the Attorney General’ in the ‘prisongate’ matter, the actions, decisions and language of former solicitor general (SG) Eleanor Donaldson-Honeywell SC, Master Patricia Sobion-Awai, Mr Justice of Appeal Allan Mendonca, the Prison Officers Association and Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Roger Gaspard SC suggest otherwise.

he fact that the DPP has ordered a criminal investigation after the AG allegedly conducted an enquiry which found no wrongdoing is deeply troubling.” 

Fixin’ T&T said it maintained that the firing of  Ramlogan was overdue. 

“He must be fired immediately and not reassigned,” Fixin’ T&T said. 

Title: AG can’t wash hands of Section 34
Post by: Socapro on May 22, 2014, 12:07:35 PM
AG can’t wash hands of Section 34 (http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,195082.html)
By Andre Bagoo Thursday, May 22 2014 (T&T Newsday)

ATTORNEY General Anand Ramlogan cannot avoid holding ultimate responsibility for the Section 34 fiasco given his role as overall legal adviser to Cabinet and should be fired, David Abdulah, the political leader of the Movement for Social Justice (MSJ) — a former coalition partner — said yesterday.


In a media statement issued one day after sacked Justice Minister Herbert Volney publicly stated he was solely responsible for the insertion of a clause in a bill which effectively imposed a time- limit on ongoing criminal proceedings involving persons on charges of State fraud and corruption, the MSJ stated Volney’s own about-turn on the issue does not address the ultimate responsibility of the Attorney General.

The MSJ said the Attorney General remained responsible for advising Cabinet on the early proclamation of the specific section, the section’s insertion as well as simultaneous court proceedings which had implications for any local proceedings of persons on charges of corruption.

“The MSJ states categorically that the Attorney General cannot wash his hands of the Section 34 issue,” Abdulah said. “As far as we are concerned the statement by former Justice Minister Herbert Volney was simply about a settlement between Mr Volney and Mr Ramlogan with respect to a private civil action of defamation. It does not address the issue of the Attorney General’s responsibility as the legal adviser to the Cabinet.”

Abdulah continued, “As far as the MSJ is concerned, nothing has been said by either Mr Volney or Mr Ramlogan to change our position. Mr Volney, as line Minister, was responsible for the Bill being brought to Parliament, for the amendments to Section 34; the deficient Schedule 6; and the Note to Cabinet to have Section 34 selectively proclaimed.”

“In this specific instance, it is well known that the selective and surreptitious proclamation of Section 34 of the Administration of Justice (Indictable Proceedings)Act of 2011 had the effect of giving certain persons....a virtual get out of jail card,” Abdulah said.

However, “the Attorney General by deciding not to appeal Justice (Ronnie) Boodoosingh’s judgment knowing full well...the implications of that and Section 34 would be a get out of jail card for... and subsequently not seeking to plug the loophole by amending Schedule 6 and/or advising the Cabinet not to have Section 34 proclaimed, is culpable of at minimum dereliction of duty and should be removed from the Cabinet.”

Abdulah outlined the time-line of the events involving passage of Section 34 and the Act as well as the overlapping court proceedings which concerned whether certain persons should face trial locally or be extradited.

“Within the same time-frame as the Administration of Justice (Indictable Proceedings) Bill, 2011, was being debated on three occasions in the Parliament, and in which debates the Attorney General was present and participated, the AG was also actively engaged in the consideration of the appeal of Justice Boodoosingh’s judgment,” the MSJ leader said. Abdulah said the Attorney General had a constitutional role.

Abdulah said, “The fact that the AG decided not to appeal whilst being fully aware of the provisions of Section 34 and the deficient Schedule 6 suggests that either he demonstrated total dereliction of duty or worse. Either way, the AG is culpable for this very serious crisis.” The MSJ leader also said the Attorney General could have pursued other avenues.

“Assuming that the AG decided not to appeal, there were still other avenues open to the AG to guarantee a trial. He could have gone to Parliament to amend either Section 34 or Schedule 6 before it was proclaimed. The AG had all of eight months so to do but took no action in this regard,” Abdulah said.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on August 19, 2014, 01:54:36 AM
Integrity Commission wins legal battle to have internet giant provide info on three accounts
By Kejan Haynes (Express).


GOOGLE MUST GIVE up E-MAILS

The Integrity Commission has won its legal battle to have Google Inc provide information on three e-mail accounts, believed to be connected to Attorney General Anand Ramlogan and Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, as part of its investigation into Emailgate.

A judgment handed down by the United States District Court has stated the Integrity Commission’s subpoena to Google Inc in connection with its Emailgate probe has met “both statutory requirements and discretionary factors”.

The judgment was handed down by US District Judge William Orrick of the Northern District of California Court on August 14.

“On August 11, 2014 the Integrity Commission of Trinidad and Tobago requested the court’s assistance under 28 U.S.C. 1782 in issuing a subpoena to Google Inc,” the Order granting the subpoena application stated.

“The subpoena seeks information for the e-mail accounts “anand@gmail.com”, “anand@tstt.net.tt” and “kamlapb1@gmail.com” which the Commission represents is relevant to a criminal investigation into possible governmental corruption.

“Because the application meets both the statutory requirements and discretionary factors I must consider in deciding whether to grant it, the application is granted,” the order stated.

According to a footnote in the court document, Google says the e-mail address anan@gmail.com does not exist but the Integrity Commission said in its motion it believed the address was incorrectly copied so it is asking any information pertaining to anand@ gmail.com to be preserved.

In his ruling, Orrick says he granted the subpoena for several reasons:

1) Google itself is not the subject of the case and since it’s out of the jurisdiction of Trinidad and Tobago law enforcement, any evidence will be unobtainable without Google’s help.

2) There is no evidence the request is an attempt to circumvent foreign proof-gathering restrictions or any country’s policies.

3) It’s not “intrusive or burdensome.” It’s only a request for information concerning three accounts and an affidavit to authenticate...and according to the document, one of the owners, Anand Ramlogan, has given consent to search his TSTT account which is operated by Google.

Ramlogan has denied having a gmail account and Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar has never confirmed if the gmail account belongs to her.

Google now has the right to modify or quash the subpoena within 14 days. If it does that, the Integrity Commission will then have another 14 days to appeal.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: socafighter on August 24, 2014, 08:50:26 PM
AG: E-MAILS ARE FAKE
Google shoots down ‘Emailgate’: Ramlogan plans to sue Rowley


By Joel Julien joel.julien@trinidadexpress.com
Story Created: Aug 24, 2014 at 10:13 PM ECT

ATTORNEYS representing Attorney General Anand Ramlogan yesterday produced a certified affidavit from Google Inc which they claim invalidates the entire emailgate scandal. They now intend to find the conspirators who were responsible for the “diabolical, evil and wicked plot” aimed at destroying the Government.
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley is to be sued for his role in the fiasco.

On May 20 last year, Rowley presented a series of purported e-mails to the Parliament which, he said, implicated the Prime Minister, Attorney General and Local Government Minister in “high crime”, “misbehaviour of public office” and a massive cover-up. Rowley quoted from a series of e-mails between e-mail accounts anan@gmail.com, anand@tstt.net.tt and kamlapb1@gmail.com, believed to be belonging to Ramlogan and Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, respectively.

Ramlogan yesterday presented a certified affidavit signed by Chi Nguyen, the custodian of records at Google Inc, which stated “a diligent search and reasonable inquiry of Google’s records produced no information regarding the e-mail anan@gmail.com”. Paragraphs seven and eight of Nguyen’s affidavit stated “anand@tstt.net.tt” and “kamlapb1@gmail.com” were both active accounts owned by Ramlogan and Persad-Bissessar, respectively.

Ramlogan said Google provided all the e-mails between himself and Persad-Bissessar during September 2012 when the emailgate correspondence occurred. He said none of those e-mails sent by Google corresponded to the claims made by Rowley. Ramlogan held a news conference at Cabildo Chambers, St Vincent Street, Port of Spain, to present the documents to the media.

Senior counsel Pamela Elder sat alongside Ramlogan.
Christopher Sargent, a partner at ComputerLaw Group LLP, was present through Skype technology. Elder said the e-mails provided by Rowley were forged. “In essence, those documents which were stated to be e-mails and which were moved between certain accounts belonging to the honourable Attorney General and the honourable Prime Minister, they do not exist,” Elder said.

Sargent filed a Notice of Pendency of Other Action or Proceeding at the United State District Court in the Northern District of California.
This was aimed at showing the application filed recently by the Integrity Commission during its investigation into the emailgate scandal was unnecessary. “(This was intended) to bring this matter to the attention of the judge because to avoid multiplicity of proceedings. If Google has already conducted a search then it is an exercise in futility for another search of a similar nature to be conducted,” Elder said.

“The authorisation granted to the Integrity Commission is the same one we secured from the court on behalf of the honourable Attorney General well over a year ago,” Sargent said. Elder said since last year attorneys representing Ramlogan had started legal proceedings to obtain the necessary information from Google. “We could not sit by quietly and twiddle and fiddle or wait while the Integrity Commission twiddled and fiddled with thumb and pen. We had to explore all legal avenues in order to substantiate all we had been saying from day one—that this was a diabolical, evil and wicked plot,” Elder said.
Elder described yesterday as “a day of revelation”.

“Today I must say I bring to mind... what comes to mind is the words... that we waited patiently and expectantly and our cry has been answered. The essence of those documents, the essence, the meat of it, is that those documents which were passed off, which were laid in the House by the honourable Leader of the Opposition, they are not authentic. Not are they only not authentic, they did not emanate from the e-mail account of the honourable Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago and the honourable Attorney General,” Elder said.

“We have reached at a position now that you have from Google that those documents which were passed off as e-mails do not exist. Where do we go from here? Well I know what I will be doing, I would be immediately writing the acting Commissioner of Police, the Integrity Commission, the Director of Public Prosecutions to do all that is necessary to unearth the co-conspirators to this evil plot. We do not know who they are, but what we know today is that there is a conspiracy of the most vicious nature, so those miscreants to whom the word honour has no meaning, they have to be unearthed and that is the position I take today.”

Elder said she was awaiting a response from Rowley, who is out of the country. She slammed those who questioned why Ramlogan had not indicated before he had initiated proceedings against Google.
“The Attorney General is represented by counsel and I advised the honourable Attorney General... and when one is dealing with persons, co-conspirators with these tendencies, one has to proceed with the utmost caution because we do not know who they are, we do not know the offices they occupy, we do not know their associates, so we proceeded with all the necessary caution. And today is a day of revelation,” Elder said.

Among the e-mail addresses the Integrity Commission has asked Google to check is “anand@gmail.com”. This address was not part of the e-mail thread read out by Rowley in Parliament. Elder slammed the Integrity Commission for including that e-mail account. “The Integrity Commission is it going off on a frolic of its own. Their investigation is limited to investigating these documents that were presented in the House,” she said.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: socafighter on August 24, 2014, 08:51:42 PM
AG’s disclosures ‘a charade’
By Leah Sorias
Story Created: Aug 24, 2014 at 10:02 PM ECT
Express

People’s National Movement (PNM) public relations officer Faris Al-Rawi described the Attorney General’s news conference yesterday as a distraction from the Constitution (Amendment) Bill, which is set for debate in the Senate tomorrow. Speaking at a news conference at his St Vincent Street, Port of Spain, office last evening, Al-Rawi urged the nation “not to be fooled by Government’s charade”.

“I am confident that the Attorney General did not get this information on Sunday. It is therefore curious that he should choose on a Sunday evening to make these disclosures when the Constitution (Amendment) Bill is on Tuesday,” he told reporters Al-Rawi said as far as the PNM is aware, the investigation into the emailgate matter is still ongoing. He urged the Police Service and the Integrity Commission, who are pro­bing it, to respond to Ramlogan’s claims.
“This matter is something which is still pending.

We do not accept the Attorney General’s version, as an interested third party, as to what has happened in this matter.” He said the revelation by Ramlogan yesterday proved PNM Political Leader Dr Keith Rowley was right to call for an investigation. He went on to note that, according to the document Ramlogan gave to the media yesterday, Google checked the e-mails which were sent between September 1 and 30, 2012.

He said the public is unaware whether e-mails could have been sent prior or subsequent to this period. “So the Attorney General’s request for disclosure in the limited period of September 1 to 30 from Google and the affidavit and disclosure from Google, coming as they are, are tailor-made to what he asked them to look for,” Al-Rawi said.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: socafighter on August 24, 2014, 08:52:44 PM
A trying time for me, says Ramlogan
By Joel Julien
Story Created: Aug 24, 2014 at 10:03 PM ECT
Express


“I CAN breathe a sigh of relief because this has been a very trying time for me personally.” So said Attorney General Anand Ramlogan as his attorneys yesterday produced a certified affidavit from Google Inc, which they claim invalidates the entire emailgate scandal.
Ramlogan said the situation was difficult for him because he had never been accused of criminal wrongdoing before.

“It is the first time that I have been accused of such... of any criminal wrongdoing in my lifetime, and the nature of the crimes that were alleged to have occurred including attempting to...conspiring with the Prime Minister to attempt to murder a journalist, bugging the DPP’s (Director of Public Prosecutions) office to spy on the DPP, open corruption speaking about building a helipad and passing this in e-mails between the Prime Minister and myself,” Ramlogan said.

“These things don’t affect you personally alone, it affects the office that you hold and the international image and the reputation of the country that you love so dearly, because if those allegations had merit, could you imagine what the outside world looking in would have thought about the Government and us as a country? This was a conspiracy to bring the Government down by using parliamentary privilege to hatch a sinister plot to bring down the Government.”

Ramlogan said he had to spend a significant portion of time trying to disprove his guilt. “We have been put in the unenviable and invidious position of having to disprove our guilt rather than to prove our innocence. And given the way the Internet operates, one would obviously have been so nervous and anxious about this matter because you know you worried about—did anyone hack into your account and put something there?

“Would Google cooperate? Would the lawsuit succeed? And I mean this has taken me a year and a half with the support of the Prime Minister and Miss (Pamela) Elder as my local attorney, and in that year and a half it has been an intense legal battle with Google. They did not give a single inch or quarter. We had to fight them every single step of the way because at first they said they really don’t care about Trinidad and Tobago and they have tens of millions of subscribers all over the world and why would they... why should they concern themselves with a simple request from us?”

Ramlogan said he intends to sue Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley for defamation of charact­er. “It’s been a long journey with a cloud of suspicion unnecessarily lurking and hanging over my head, but I am very happy that this revelation and vindication has come because we have been, from day one, very confident that this day will come,” Ramlogan said. Ramlogan said he would not rest until justice is served.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 24, 2014, 11:23:27 PM
As far as I am concerned I have not yet heard the final report from the Integrity Commission. I am not interested in an affidavit from Google the AG is presenting two days before the debate on the Constitution Reform Bill in the Senate.

AG’s disclosures ‘a charade’
By Leah Sorias
Story Created: Aug 24, 2014 at 10:02 PM ECT
Express

People’s National Movement (PNM) public relations officer Faris Al-Rawi described the Attorney General’s news conference yesterday as a distraction from the Constitution (Amendment) Bill, which is set for debate in the Senate tomorrow. Speaking at a news conference at his St Vincent Street, Port of Spain, office last evening, Al-Rawi urged the nation “not to be fooled by Government’s charade”.

“I am confident that the Attorney General did not get this information on Sunday. It is therefore curious that he should choose on a Sunday evening to make these disclosures when the Constitution (Amendment) Bill is on Tuesday,” he told reporters Al-Rawi said as far as the PNM is aware, the investigation into the emailgate matter is still ongoing. He urged the Police Service and the Integrity Commission, who are pro­bing it, to respond to Ramlogan’s claims.
“This matter is something which is still pending.


We do not accept the Attorney General’s version, as an interested third party, as to what has happened in this matter.” He said the revelation by Ramlogan yesterday proved PNM Political Leader Dr Keith Rowley was right to call for an investigation. He went on to note that, according to the document Ramlogan gave to the media yesterday, Google checked the e-mails which were sent between September 1 and 30, 2012.

He said the public is unaware whether e-mails could have been sent prior or subsequent to this period. “So the Attorney General’s request for disclosure in the limited period of September 1 to 30 from Google and the affidavit and disclosure from Google, coming as they are, are tailor-made to what he asked them to look for,” Al-Rawi said.


Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on August 25, 2014, 05:43:21 AM
Smoke and Mirrors.

The attorney known as Anand Ramlogan has a history of knowing and exploiting loopholes. Points to note.


His original request to Google indicated that he queried "anan@gmail.com" existence.....and gave permission to search the records of "anand@tstt.net.tt". However the Integrity Commission is also querying the existence and emails of "anand@gmail.com". Please note that the counsel for Anand Ramlogan is presenting this as an argument:

Quote
Sargent filed a Notice of Pendency of Other Action or Proceeding at the United State District Court in the Northern District of California.
This was aimed at showing the application filed recently by the Integrity Commission during its investigation into the emailgate scandal was unnecessary. “(This was intended) to bring this matter to the attention of the judge because to avoid multiplicity of proceedings. If Google has already conducted a search then it is an exercise in futility for another search of a similar nature to be conducted,” Elder said


Why should this be a concern? Wouldnt the results of the findings by the Integrity Commission who are independent and uninvolved parties in the matter be given prominence and therefore confirm and clear the AG from all doubt? So why file that notice? The intent of the notice is to stop the Integrity Commission from getting the results you already know? Hmmmm....

He also provided emails within the period September 1-30th....and he said that the emails dont exist. Firstly....what assurance can we have from the AG that these are indeed all the emails from that period? In addition...I think the time frame was different based on the events referenced.



This....is going to be interesting.


Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 25, 2014, 08:38:57 AM
 :D sorry this made my day on FB

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Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 25, 2014, 08:03:04 PM
 :bs: socafighter I say you would have updated us on this already. I know you quick with the news!

Bourbon you hear this ?  The AG and Kamla want to stop the Integrity Commission from searching their emails. They say the affidavit from Google is enough.  :cursing: 

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In his request to stop the Integrity Commission (IC) from getting any further information on #EmailGate The Attorney Generals California based lawyers have written the IC's legal team on behalf of Mr Ramlogan and the Prime Minister to say that both have now revoked their consent for their private email / communications to be searched by google any further since their inquiry (the one by the AG) is enough to bring the matter to a completes close.

His lawyers point out that there is no reason to investigate the same thing twice and urge the IC to cease and desist with their investigation through the issue of their stop order revoking initial consent. Their lawyers insist that their consent was given some time ago and is now no longer legally applicable given that the entire email affair has been resolved in their clients favour.[/b].

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on August 26, 2014, 01:55:45 AM
Rowley knocks AG on Emailgate:
By Joel Julien (Express).


HIMSELF TO HIMSELF

OPPOSITION Leader Dr Keith Rowley has descried as “laughable” claims made by Attorney General Anand Ramlogan that the Emailgate scandal is now invalidated.

Rowley, who is currently in London, said he finds it “unacceptable” that Ramlogan would investigate himself and call for independent investigations currently ongoing into the matter to be stopped.

Rowley has also shrugged off threats by Ramlogan to take legal action against him.

The Emailgate scandal started on May 20 last year when Rowley presented a series of purported e-mails to the Parliament which he said implicated Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, Works Minister Dr Surujrattan Rambachan and Ramlogan in “high crime”, “misbehaviour in public office” and a massive cover-up.

Rowley quoted from a series of e-mails between e-mail accounts “anan@gmail.com”, “anand@tstt.net.tt” and “kamlapb1@gmail.com” believed to be belonging to Ramlogan and Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar respectively.

On Sunday, Ramlogan produced a certified affidavit signed by Chi Nguyen, the custodian of records at Google Inc, which he said invalidated the e-mails read out by Rowley.

On that same day Christopher Sargent, a partner at ComputerLaw Group LLP, filed a “Notice of Pendency of Other Action or Proceeding” blocking the Integrity Commission’s ongoing legal action against Google Inc.

Last week the Integrity Commission won a legal battle to have Google Inc provide information on three e-mail accounts, believed to be connected to Ramlogan and Persad-Bissessar, as part of its investigation into the Emailgate fiasco.

The Integrity Commission’s subpoena was seeking information for the e-mail accounts “anand@gmail.com”, “anand@tstt.net.tt” and “kamlapb1@gmail.com” which the Commission said were relevant to a “criminal investigation into possible governmental corruption”.

The affidavit by Nguyen stated “anand@tstt.net.tt” belongs to Ramlogan and “kamlapb1@gmail.com” belongs to Persad-Bissessar. But the e-mails read out by Rowley did not exist.

During a newss conference at Cabildo Chambers on Sunday, accompanied by Senior Counsel Pamela Elder and Sargent via Skype technology, Ramlogan said the Emailgate scandal has now ended.

Elder said since the e-mail address “anand@gmail.com” was not part of the thread read out by Rowley in Parliament the Integrity Commission would be going on a “frolic of its own” if it were to request information on that account.

The Express yesterday contacted Rowley via telephone to get his comment on the situation.

“This is a very odd situation where the subject of an investigation would have carried out his own investigation and is now telling other investigators that his investigation is the story,” Rowley said.

“I am not interested in the personal and private escapades of the Attorney General, especially when they are secret and self-serving as they are. What I am interested in is the spectacle of the Trinidad and Tobago’s Attorney General, who is supposed to be assisting the State with a very important investigation, and can point to no assistance that his department has given to the police, the DPP (the Director of Public Prosecutions) or any other, the Integrity Commission for that matter, to advance the State’s investigation but can surprise us with the findings which he has paid for, presenting himself and his lawyers to tell us that he, while we were thinking that there was a State investigation taking place, in fact he was investigating himself and he has found himself to be without question to answer,” he said,

Rowley said while it was “unacceptable” for Ramlogan to investigate himself this was the precedent set by Persad-Bissessar.

“This I find quite unacceptable on the part of the Attorney General and it is all in keeping with the Prime Minister’s understanding of these matters of State where in the Prisongate matter when the Solicitor General made certain documentation available to the Prime Minister and she sent it to the Attorney General to investigate himself,” Rowley said.

Rowley said his role in the Emailgate scandal was simply as the voice calling for an independent investigation into information he received.

“In my own case I am saying here these matters came to my attention. I considered them, I came to the conclusion that they required an investigation, I took them to the President, I waited six months, there was no investigation by the Integrity Commission, which incidentally is now pursuing an investigation that I expected in 2012, and I went to Parliament and I asked for an independent investigation into this matter,” Rowley said.

Rowley said he will be returning to the country in a week’s time and would address the matter in more depth then.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on August 26, 2014, 05:11:21 AM
As I said before...smoke and mirrors.


Somebody holding on to a bare Jack.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on August 26, 2014, 09:37:30 AM
As I said before...smoke and mirrors.


Somebody holding on to a bare Jack.

 :beermug:
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 28, 2014, 11:10:32 PM
I am disappointed the IC is yet to release a public statement responding to the AG declaring himself innocent and a response to his request for the IC not to search his emails and the PM emails.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on August 29, 2014, 04:40:57 AM
The best response is the official response when their answers are obtained. Anything else without that is just contributing to the sideshow.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on August 29, 2014, 08:32:09 AM
Bourbon I now have a change in opinion. You are right
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on September 05, 2014, 02:08:43 PM

https://www.youtube.com/v/pxwOy7IJ2QU
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: MEP on September 07, 2014, 05:06:35 PM
Wait why is it Ramlogan and his lawyers presenting an affidavit?
Also aren't his actions obstructive? And why is he in contact with google?
Sorry, I'm asking obvious questions I guess I should expect that with this lying and deceitful gov't
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on September 07, 2014, 07:45:31 PM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/AG-okays-release-of-emails-274237981.html

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Attorney General Anand Ramlogan has consented to e-mail service provider Google Inc releasing all information from his personal e-mail account to the Integrity Commission as the probe into the Emailgate scandal continues.

This was revealed yesterday in a letter bearing Thursday’s date from the US law firm representing Ramlogan, ComputerLaw Group LLP to Timothy Alger, one of the attorneys representing Google Inc.

The letter, sent to the Sunday Express by the AG, outlined several grounds on which it said Ramlogan had a right to challenge the “overboard request” by the Integrity Commission including the release of confidential information related to national security, confidential financial records and spousal communications.


However, it pointed out that Ramlogan did not wish to challenge the subpoena issued to Google from the Integrity Commission seeking the information “so that his good name can be cleared”.


The Integrity Commission had initially issued a subpoena to Google requesting information on e-mails exchanged between the address anand@tstt.net.tt and the following accounts, kamlapb1@gmail.com, captaingarygriffith@hotmail.com and surujrambachan@gmail.com for several dates in the month September 2012.

The alleged e-mails which Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley raised in Parliament in May last year alleging criminal conspiracy related to the Section 34 fiasco by Ramlogan, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, Minister of National Security Gary Griffith and Works Minister Surujrattan Rambachan.

The allegations included intention to harm a newspaper reporter.

Last month during a news conference at Cabildo Chambers, St Vincent Street, Port of Spain, Ramlogan said Google provided all the e-mails between himself and Persad-Bissessar during September 2012 when the Emailgate correspondence allegedly occurred. He said none of those e-mails sent by Google corresponded to the claims made by Rowley.

It was following this disclosure by Google that the Integrity Commission forwarded another subpoena to Google requesting additional information relating to the e-mail address anand@tstt.net.tt.


Thursday’s letter to Google by Ramlogan’s attorneys stated: “The subpoena targets an account Mr Ramlogan has used as his primary professional and private email for many years. As such, the subpoena potentially seek attorney-client privileged communication between Mr Ramlogan and his personal attorneys; privileged and financial records or spousal communications; privileged attorney work-product and information that is subject to state secrets or other privacy protections under the laws of Trinidad and Tobago.

Mr Ramlogan is entitled to challenge the subpoena on the grounds that it is overboard, unduly burdensome, harassing, not reasonable calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence in violation of the Electronic Communication Privacy Act, the Stored Communications Act and his applicable privileges. However, Mr Ramlogan has instructed my firm that he does not wish to issue such a challenge to this overboard request from the Integrity Commission, so that his good name can be cleared. My firm has also been instructed to cooperate fully with the Integrity Commission in order to expedite compliance with the subpoena”.


Reached for comment in Florida yesterday, Ramlogan said he had overridden the legal advice of his US attorneys to object to the request.

“I have no desire to frustrate the process but wish to support it to achieve further vindication,” from the “conspiracy” perpetuated by Rowley via emailgate, the AG told the Sunday Express. “I welcome the investigation by the police and the Integrity Commission. There must be no lingering suspicion into these serious and dangerous allegations that have no merit or truth.”

Ramlogan said he was advised the request violated privacy laws but he had no objection to it because he believed the “truth will set you free”
.


So basically....he saying he have the right to object but not objecting because he want the process to continue. So while the hullabaloo?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on January 24, 2015, 10:54:40 PM
Yuh know...real material for this topic went on in the past few weeks...and we miss the boat. When I get chance I would post them but it requires the right sequencing of the information.

But....take in this (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/No-straight-answers-289694801.html).

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AG DUCKS
...mum on whether he asked PCA director to not file witness statement in Section 34 case in exchange for post

By By ANIKA GUMBS CCN Senior Multimedia Investigative Journalist
Story Created: Jan 24, 2015 at 9:31 PM ECT
Story Updated: Jan 24, 2015 at 9:48 PM ECT
Attorney Gene­ral Anand Ramlogan has refused to confirm or deny an allegation that six days before attorney David West was appointed director of the Police Complaints Authority (PCA), he asked him to withdraw his witness statement in a defamation lawsuit rela­ting to the failed extradition involving Section 34 applicants Steve Ferguson and Ishwar Galbaransingh in exchange for him being selected for the job.

The defamation lawsuit stemmed from statements Ramlogan claimed Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley made during a news conference on November 8, 2011, relating to Justice Ronnie Boodoosingh’s ruling in which he quashed the Attorney General’s decision to order the extradition of Ferguson and Galbaransingh arising out of the Piarco International Airport enquiry.

Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar has not responded to a text message sent to her by the Sunday Express on Friday for comment on the matter.

A high-ranking Government official, however, told the Sunday Express that upon receiving the text message, Persad-Bissessar expressed “alarm” over the matter and demanded answers.

West is the former head of the Central Authority Unit (CAU) that falls under the purview of the office of the Attorney General.

Ramlogan has not directly answered if it is true he telephoned West and requested his witness statement be withdrawn.

He has neither confirmed nor denied contacting West. And, in an e-mailed response to the Sunday Express at 7.49 p.m. on Friday, Ramlogan wrote: “As you have indicated, Mr West is a witness in a case I have brought against Dr Rowley which is pending before the High Court.

“It would not be proper for me to comment in the circumstances. Suffice it to say, the director of the PCA is selected and appointed by the President in his wisdom and not the Attorney Genera­l.”

The following question was sent to Ramlogan by the Sunday Express: Investigations revealed that on October 31, 2014, you telephoned attorney David West asking him to withdraw his witness statement in relation to extradition matter involving Steve Ferguson and Ish Galbaransingh in exchange for him being selected as director of the PCA. Is this true? If so, why was this done?

But while the questions remain unanswered, Sunday Express investigations have revealed that the AG telephoned West after midday on October 31, 2014.

This call to West was the second call that was registered on his cellphone from Ramlogan on that same day (October 31).

Ramlogan had telephoned West earlier on the morning of October 31, informing him he was tipped to head the PCA following the resig­nation of then director attorney Gillian Lucky, who accepted a judgeship in September last year.

However, at the time the second telephone call was made, the Office of the President had already contacted West on the same day (October 31) scheduling a meeting with him on November 3 regarding his appointment as PCA head.

Section 6 (1) of the PCA Act states the authority is to comprise a director and deputy director to be appointed by the President of T&T on the advice of both the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition.

The Sunday Express learned both Persad-Bissessar and Rowley had agreed West was the best candidate to head the PCA, and as a result his name was submitted to the President for him to be selected for the post.


West seeks

legal advice


Immediately following the telephone conversation with Ramlogan, West sought legal advice about the request for the witness statement in the defamation matter to be withdrawn, the Sunday Express learned.

West, who was appointed director of the PCA on November 7, however, filed his witness statement at the Hall of Justice on December 19, 2014, a copy of which has been obtained by the Sunday Express.

West’s phone logs show the Attorney General attempted to contact him twice on December 16—three days before the witness statement was filed.

The calls went unanswered.

At the time, West was in Tobago and again sought legal advice.

Contacted on January 22 for comment on the information obtained by the Sunday Express, West said: “The matter is before the court and I cannot comment.”


The West

witness statement


In his witness statement, West details a June 2010 incident surrounding the arrest of Ferguson and Galbaransingh.

An excerpt from West’s witness statement reads: “The application for special leave was dismissed by the Privy Council on June 7, 2010, on the ground that they (Ferguson and Galbaransingh) did not have a right of appeal.

“As was customary, I advised Inspector Williams, who was the complainant in the extradition matter, to arrest Ferguson and Galbaransingh since their bail had now ceased.

“The Government had by then changed, with the claimant being appointed Attorney General in May 2010. I advised the Attorney General of my instruction to Inspector Williams. The Attorney General asked me how I could issue that instruction without telling him; he advised me that only he could make the request to the police.

“He then instructed me to rescind my instruction, which I did. As a result, Ferguson and Galbaransingh were not immediately arrested; this occurred on June 15, 2010, approximately one week after the said decision of the Privy Council.”

West also recalled an instance where attorney Kelvin Ramkissoon who was retained to lead him (West) for the Attorney General in the extradition matter did not object to bail being granted to Ferguson and Galbaransingh.

“To my surprise, at the hearing Ramkissoon again took the novel and different position of neutrality on the issue of bail; he informed the judge (Justice Malcolm Holdip) that we were there to assist the court with the principles of bail.

“I informed Ramkissoon that it was standard practice of the CAU to object to bail; consequent to the discussion which occurred between Ramkissoon and myself, I understood that he was acting on instructions from the Attorney Gene­ral.

“The judge, however, refused bail. After the hearing the Attorney General had a conversation with me and instructed me not to get involved in the Piarco extradition matter again,” West wrote.

West, however, said notwithstanding the instruction, he continued to pay attention and follow the progress of the Piarco extradition matter.

His statement continued: “On or around October 8, 2010, some two and half months after the Privy Council refused special leave to appeal on the habeas corpus application, the Attorney General issued the warrant for the return of Ferguson and Galbaransingh to the United States.

“I also observed, from my reading the daily newspapers around that time that the Attorney General also issued a press release.

“I was surprised at the timing of the press release given that from my said experience with the CAU, the invariable practice has been to issue any such press release after the extradition was completed, not before, that is to say after the fugitive had been removed from the jurisdiction of T&T.”

On Ramlogan’s decision not to appeal Justice Boodoosingh’s ruling, West wrote:

“From my reading of the judge’s decision, I observed that at paragraph 135 of his judgment, the judge stated that the Attorney General had not advanced any evidence to suggest that there existed a settled practice of discontinuing local charges if the fugitive is extradited.

“I am able to say from my said experience of working in the CAU that the DPP has in the past agreed in extradition matters to the discontinuation of local charges so that the extradition could proceed and that evidence of that practice exists among the records of the unit.”


Why Ramlogan

didn’t appeal

Boodoosingh’s ruling


Ramlogan had come under fire from several quarters for his decision not to appeal the ruling.

But he gave reasons for his decision in his 55-page witness statement that has also been obtained by the Sunday Express.

An excerpt from his statement reads: “When the judgment was delivered, I sought and obtained legal advice as to whether I should appeal the decision of the court.

“Based on the advice which I received I did not do so.

“However, my decision in not doing so was not only predicated or guided by the advice which I received. I took into consideration a number of matters and spoke to the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) on the issue of having Ferguson and Galbaransingh tried in T&T and how soon this could be done.”

He further added: “In fact, I recall meeting with the DPP on two occasions relative to this matter. The first was when I received the representations made by Ferguson and Galbaransingh.

“I also met with him on a second occasion before I decided whether or not to surrender Galbaransingh and Ferguson. I wanted to determine the exact status of the proceedings in the preliminary enquiry.

“After discussions with the DPP, I formed the distinct impression that the outstanding preliminary enquiry was extremely near in completion.”

Ramlogan said in deciding whether to appeal the ruling, he consi­dered his (Boodoosingh’s) judicial declaration the forum for the trial of Ferguson and Galbaransingh was T&T.

The Attorney Gene­ral said judicial statements made by Court of Appeal Judges Wendell Kangaloo and Allan Mendonca were also given consideration.

“I therefore considered that when the indictment of these people is laid by the DPP, there can be a special court (such as the type done for trial of Dole Chadee and others at Chaguaramas in 1996) and that where possible, the Attorney General would assist in facilitating resources for this purpose,” Ramlogan said.


Rowley stands firm


Meanwhile, Rowley is standing firm by his position that Ramlogan had not sought or advanced the public interest in the conduct of the legal proceedings involving Ferguson and Galbaransingh.

In his witness statement, Rowley said his concerns were based on the Attorney General’s legal team representing the interest of the State and his hand­ling and defence of the extradition order.

“I therefore consi­dered it my duty and responsibility as Leader of the Opposition to inform the public what the claimant was required to do as Attorney General in dealing with the extradition of Ferguson and Galbaransingh, and that, as Attorney General he was ultimately accountable for the loss which the State suffered in those legal proceedings because of the way that he had handled the extradition matter,” an excerpt from his witness statement read.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on January 27, 2015, 08:07:06 AM

Once again calling on the PM to take these matters seriously and for the AG to resign.

http://www.tv6tnt.com/sevenpm-news/-DR-ROWLEY-CALLS-FOR-AG-TO-RESIGN---289867071.html (http://www.tv6tnt.com/sevenpm-news/-DR-ROWLEY-CALLS-FOR-AG-TO-RESIGN---289867071.html)
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 27, 2015, 12:45:26 PM
I eh no lawyer, but I am sure things of this kind have been going for centuries. I am sure AGs and chief justices use their influences all over the world. How effective the results are of their influences, depends on the strength of transparencies of the country's legal system. In the US, Canada, Australia, NZ and EU, the AG will be walking a very fine line doing such a thing. In weaker and less transparent legal systems(like TT), the AGs has more latitude and will get away with what Anand is accused of doing. That is my opinion.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on January 27, 2015, 01:47:35 PM
First that doesnt make it right and secondly...if he had nothing to worry about and no cocoa in the sun..then he wouldnt have to do that. He historically won many of his cases on technicalities and loop holes and if you need that to prove your innocence then for me personally it makes me wonder.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on January 27, 2015, 02:01:57 PM
Look ting!  :(


West: It’s public record


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/West-Its-public-record-289865071.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/West-Its-public-record-289865071.html)


Police Complaints Authority (PCA) director David West has dismissed the claim by Attorney General Anand Ramlogan that he was only made aware of him being a witness in a defamation lawsuit against Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley one month ago.

Ramlogan on Sunday night denied an allegation that six days before West was appointed head of the PCA, he asked him to withdraw his witness statement in the defamation lawsuit relating to the failed extradition involving Section 34 applicants Steve Ferguson and Ishwar Galbaransingh in exchange for him being selected for the job.

When asked by the Sunday Express last week, Ramlogan had initially refuse to confirm or deny whether he had asked West to withdraw the witness statement but on Sunday via a news release he denied the allegation.

West’s witness statement dated June 27, 2014 was filed in the High Court on December 19 and received by Ramlogan’s legal team on December 22.

Ramlogan claimed he was unaware that he (West) was a witness in the matter until December 22 when his legal team was served with the document.

In a brief statement yesterday, West stated: “I David West am a witness to a matter between Anand Ramlogan and Dr Keith Rowley (CV2012-02948). On June 27, 2014 I submitted a signed witness statement to my attorneys on the said matter. My witness statement has since been in possession of my attorneys and was subsequently filed on December 22, 2014.

“The content of the statement is a matter of public record. During this timeframe any individual with interest in this particular matter would have been privy to the list of witnesses and would have known that I am a witness in the matter. I stand by my witness statement and I am ready to defend it under oath.”

The defamation lawsuit in which West is a witness stemmed from statements Ramlogan claimed Rowley made during a news conference on November 8, 2011, relating to Justice Ronnie Boodoosingh’s ruling in which the judge quashed the Attorney General’s decision to order the extradition of Ferguson and Galbaransingh arising out of the Piarco International Airport enquiry.

Express investigations have revealed that the Attorney General telephoned West after midday on October 31, 2014.

This call to West was the second call that was registered on his cellphone from Ramlogan on that same day, October 31.

Ramlogan had telephoned West earlier on the morning of October 31, informing him that he was tipped to head the PCA following the resignation of then director, attorney Gillian Lucky, who accepted a judgeship in September last year.

However, at the time the second telephone call was made, the Office of the President had already contacted West on the same day (October 31) scheduling a meeting with him on November 3 regarding his appointment as PCA head.

The Express learned that immediately following the telephone conversation with Ramlogan, West sought legal advice about the request for the witness statement in the defamation matter to be withdrawn.

West is the former head of the Central Authority Unit that falls under the purview of the office of the Attorney General.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on January 27, 2015, 06:09:58 PM
I really really wish West recorded him. I also wish he went to the integrity commission (are they fully constituted now?).


Every body just accusing poor Anand of everything.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on January 28, 2015, 01:39:31 PM
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Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on January 29, 2015, 06:31:14 AM
As he said..the truth will set him free  (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Working-draft-of-witness--statement-existed-since-June-290161151.html)

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...Working draft of witness statement existed since June
By Ria Taitt Political Editor
Story Created: Jan 29, 2015 at 12:40 AM ECT
Story Updated: Jan 29, 2015 at 12:40 AM ECT
A working draft of the witness statement of Police Complaints Authority (PCA) director David West existed since June, 2014, according to court documents filed in the Section 34 defamation case brought by Attorney General Anand Ramlogan against Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley.
The documents indicate that in June 2014, five months prior to his appointment as PCA Director, West had already agreed to be a witness and preparation of his statement was awaiting completion.

The documentation of the existence of a draft statement in the court papers represents the greatest vulnerability for the Attorney General, who has, in response to allegations of witness tampering,[u] stated that it was physically impossible to have asked West to withdraw a witness statement on October 31 as alleged, when the witness statement didn’t exist until December 20, 2014.[/u]
In claiming that his knowledge of the statement only came two months after West’s appointment, he has in effect denied knowledge of the existence of the draft witness statement in the court documents.
However, court documents indicate that Ramlogan’s attorneys must have known that a draft statement existed because the information was presented to the court on two occasions when the issue of an application for an extension to file witness statement in the matter was brought before the High Court and at the Court of Appeal in June and July, 2014 respectively.
The affidavit of Faris Al-Rawi, dated June 23, 2014 and filed in support of the application for the extension, indicate West had gone past the stage of uncertainty and was on board as a witness.
Al-Rawi’s affidavit stated: “On or around June 17, 2014, I was informed by Junior Counsel and verily believe that he required clarification of certain of the instructions from the Defendant (Rowley), myself and Mr David West in order to complete the drafts of the witness statements”.
The affidavit continued: “Both Mr West and I have been reviewing the working draft of our witness statements in the meantime in order to provide the requested clarification for the finalisation of same. However, given the imminent deadline for the filing of the witness statements and the voluminous documents which we both have to review in order to refresh our memories, we both require additional time to do so properly. These documents include the legal proceedings in the extradition matter involving Mr Galbaransingh and Mr Ferguson and their challenges to same and the Hansard reports in respect of the debates concerning the Administration of Justice bill”.
In the actual “Application for Extension”, also dated June 23, it is reiterated: “The other witnesses, Mr David West and Mr Faris Al-Rawi are in the process of reviewing and finalising their witness statements but require additional time to complete that process due to the volume of documents which they are required to peruse to refresh their memories and/or to provide clarification to Counsel”.
Therefore in June, 2014 when the PCA directorship was yet vacant, West who had already agreed to be a witness had a draft witness statement and was in active cooperation with Rowley’s attorney for its completion.
The PCA directorship became vacant on September 1 when Gillian Lucky resigned. And West was appointed on November 6, 2014.
The Sunday Express this week reported an allegation that on October 31, six days before that appointment as PCA director, the Attorney General telephoned David West and asked him to withdraw his witness statement in exchange for support of the appointment.



 West's Statement in full  (http://www.tv6tnt.com/news/West-issues-statement-290218051.html)

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PRESS STATEMENT BY DAVID WEST ON ALLEGATIONS PUBLISHED IN THE MEDIA AGAINST THE HON. ATTORNEY GENERAL

On Wednesday the 21st of January 2015 I was contacted by Ms Anika Gumbs who indicated to me that a source had confided in her as follows:

(i) That prior to my appointment as the Director of the Police Complaints Authority (“the Authority”) on the 7th of November 2014 the Hon. Attorney General had asked me to withdraw a witness statement which I had made on behalf of Dr Keith Rowley in Claim No. CV2012-02948 Anand Ramlogan v. Dr Keith Rowley in return for the Government’s support for my appointment as Director of the Authority; and Ms Gumbs asked me to comment on the allegation. I advised Ms Gumbs that the matter was before the High Court and therefore could not comment.

The proceedings referred to above, which are in fact pending before the High Court, are a claim by the Hon. Attorney General against Dr Rowley for damages for defamation. The subject matter of the Hon. Attorney General’s claim relates to statements allegedly made by Dr Rowley in 2011 concerning the case for the extradition of Mr Ishwar Galbaransingh and Mr Steve Ferguson with which I was involved up to 2010 as the former head of the Central Authority of Trinidad and Tobago. I was appointed as Director of the Authority on the 7th of November 2014.

In the Sunday Express Newspaper for the 25th of January 2015 an article by Ms Anika Gumbs entitled “AG DUCKS” was published. The article contained the allegations against the Hon. Attorney General on which I was asked by Ms Gumbs to provide comment.

As I sought to make clear in a radio interview on the 26th of January 2015, it is matter of public record that my witness statement was first filed in the High Court on the 27th of June 2014 on an application by Dr Rowley for an extension of time for the statement to be filed. Upon the Court of Appeal ultimately granting Dr Rowley the extension on the 19th of December 2014 my witness statement was formally filed on the 19th of December 2014. I hope this makes it patent that I did not withdraw my witness statement or provide any other inducement whatsoever to earn anyone’s support for my appointment as Director of the Authority.

The allegations published in the Sunday Express article “AG DUCKS” suggest that the Hon. Attorney General committed serious criminal conduct in relation to his office and the administration of justice in Trinidad and Tobago. Due process demands that any such allegations should be investigated by the proper authorities and not in the media. I can disclose that I was taking steps in that regard prior to the publication of the article to ensure that I provided the appropriate authorities with the best available corroborative evidence for their investigation.

Although the Hon. Attorney General initially refused to make any comment on the matter, he is now on the public record denying categorically that he ever requested me to withdraw my witness statement in his claim against Dr Rowley. I am compelled to say publicly, without more, that my recollection of what transpired is diametrically opposed to the Hon. Attorney General’s denial that he ever approached me.

Accordingly, I have this morning made a report to the Ag. Commissioner of Police on the matter of the allegations against the Hon. Attorney General reported upon in Ms Gumbs’ article. I trust that the Ag Commissioner will take swift action on my report as he considers appropriate or as he may be advised and that due process will be ensured and the integrity of any investigation will be preserved.

David West
January 29, 2015
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: lefty on January 29, 2015, 05:26:22 PM
ah trini dat incorruptible and refused to "eat ah food" for silence..........ah proud......it have at least one :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on January 29, 2015, 06:48:43 PM
Now we cooking with grease.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on January 29, 2015, 07:24:58 PM
I hearing sycophants trying to change the conversation to saying that West  took a bribe. Now if that's the line of defense doesn't that mean the AG bribed him? Anyhow..... Anand say he welcomes the probe. If the police doing it... It would be at a sensitive and advanced stage for a while maybe.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on January 30, 2015, 02:55:51 AM
AG UNDER POLICE PROBE
Anand: A political conspiracy
By Ria Taitt Political Editor


Anand Ramlogan’s job as Attorney General of Trinidad and Tobago hangs in the balance. He is the first Attorney General to face a criminal investigation.

And as Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar flew home last night, one thing must have been on her mind—can Ramlogan, who has survived many controversies and calls for his head, continue to properly discharge the functions of his office with the cloud of a criminal probe hanging over him.

The probe centres around the allegation that on October 31, six days before his appointment as Police Complaints Authority (PCA) Director, David West was approached by the Attorney General with a request that he withdraw his witness statement in the Section 34 defamation lawsuit brought by the Attorney General against Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley, in exchange for the appointment to the directorship.

The controversy, first exposed exclusively by the Sunday Express, took a dramatic turn yesterday as West visited the offices of Acting Police Commissioner Stephen Williams and presented him with a signed statement in which West confirmed the allegations of “an attempt to pervert the course of justice” against Ramlogan. Williams immediately announced that he had ordered a criminal investigation into the matter.

These events quickly fuelled reports that the Attorney General, whom sources said held a meeting with acting Prime Minister Errol McLeod, was packing up and preparing to vacate his office. The name of Larry Lalla, one of the members of Ramlogan’s legal circle, was even being floated as his replacement. But by 6 p.m Ramlogan issued a defiant statement dismissing the “spurious allegations” which were “part of a wider political conspiracy” and indicating that he expected to the vindicated. Ramlogan, who signed the release as Attorney General, stated that he welcomed the probe by the Commission Williams in the allegations made by West. “I trust that the investigation would be handled professionally, thoroughly and expeditiously. I will cooperate fully with this investigation and look forward to my vindication”,

Ramlogan concluded: “All parties must now allow due process to take its course. These latest spurious allegations are but part of a wider political conspiracy that is designed to damage the government as we draw closer to elections”.

Ramlogan’s four-and-a-half year tenure has been turbulent as he has been involved in many controversies but this latest one is the most serious and threatening of all.

Some of other controversies include emailgate which involved allegations against top office-holders; Prisongate in which the Solicitor-General alleged a conspiracy relating prison litigation matters which led to her resignation; the Section 34 bill; the sending out of a release purportedly authored by the Chief State Solicitor when it was not; the Range Rover controversy; the Chaguanas West by-election motor vehicle accident involving his car and the war of words with the former PCA director Gillian Lucky over the alleged leak of the PCA Report into the Flying Squad.

Up to press time last night Ramlogan was said to be in his office and access to his floor had been restricted. Congress of the People leader Prakash Ramadhar has called for the investigation to be conducted in the shortest possible time.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on January 30, 2015, 04:33:19 AM
‘A CONSPIRACY’
By Andre Bagoo (Newsday)
Friday, January 30 2015


ACTING Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams yesterday announced that he had ordered a police probe into an allegation of an attempt to pervert the course of justice made against Attorney General Anand Ramlogan by Director of the Police Complaints Authority David West.

In a media release, the police public affairs unit stated, “The Commissioner of Police (Ag), Mr Stephen Williams, wishes to advise that today, Thursday 29th January, 2015, he was visited by Mr David West at Police Administration Building, Port-of-Spain, and presented with a signed statement, in which Mr West made an allegation of ‘an attempt to pervert the course of justice’, against Senator the Honourable, Anand Ramlogan, Attorney General of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago.”

The statement continued, “As a consequence, the Commissioner of Police has ordered an investigation into the matter.” The investigation will be led by Deputy Commissioner of Police – Operations (Ag), Harold Phillip.

The statement did not disclose any details of the allegations contained in the West statement.

In an immediate reaction, Ramlogan said he welcomed the probe, stated there was political conspiracy involved and called for caution.

“I welcome the announcement by the Commissioner of Police of an investigation into the allegations made by Mr David West,” Ramlogan said. “I trust that the investigation would be handled professionally, thoroughly and expeditiously. I will co-operate fully with this investigation and look forward to my vindication.”

The Attorney General further stated, “All parties must now allow due process to take its course. These latest spurious allegations are but part of a wider political conspiracy that is designed to damage the Government as we draw closer to elections.”

Ramlogan has denied the allegations contained in a Sunday Express article that he asked West to withdraw his witness statement in a defamation lawsuit Ramlogan has against Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley for comments about Section 34 and extradition proceedings involving businessmen Ishwar Galbaransingh and Steve Ferguson. The article alleged Ramlogan promised West he would be appointed PCA director if he withdrew from the lawsuit.

In a statement on Sunday, the Attorney General said, “Whilst I was and remain reluctant to comment on a matter in which I am the claimant that is awaiting trial before the High Court, I wish to categorically reject and deny the absurd allegation that I asked the PCA chairman David West to withdraw his witness statement during a telephone conversation which allegedly took place on October 31, 2014, or at any time thereafter.” Ramlogan further stated, “I was only aware that Mr West had filed a witness statement in this case when it was served on my attorneys on December 22, 2014.”

Ramlogan also stated it was impossible for him to have made such a representation as it is for the President to appoint the PCA director, which is an independent post.

Section 6 of the PCA Act states, “6. (1) The Authority shall comprise a Director and a Deputy Director to be appointed by the President on the joint advice of the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition.”

PCA director: A different story

While it was surmised that the statement submitted by West to the police related to the newspaper report, his submission to the police was not released.

In a release, West stated his complaint related to the newspaper article but did not go into specifics of his statement to the police.

The former head of the Central Authority said, “I am compelled to say publicly, without more, that my recollection of what transpired is diametrically opposed to the Honourable Attorney General’s denial that he ever approached me.”

“Accordingly, I this morning made a report to the Ag Commissioner of Police on the matter of the allegations against the Honourable Attorney General reported upon,” West said. “I trust that the Ag Commissioner will take swift action on my report as he considers appropriate or as he may be advised and that due process will be ensured and the integrity of any investigation will be preserved.” West did not specify in his statement the nature of the reported approach. Efforts to contact West were unsuccessful.

This is not the first time West and Ramlogan have sparred publicly. In 2011, both engaged in a war of words when Ramlogan criticised West’s appointment as “deputy director” of the Financial Intelligence Unit under the PNM, saying the post did not exist. West also criticised Ramlogan’s handling of an extradition case involving Doreen Alexander Durity in 2013.

Rumours circulated yesterday that Ramlogan may have resigned or had been called to a meeting to explain the reports by Acting Prime Minister Errol Mc Leod.

The Cabinet – which at a minimum comprises the Prime Minister and Attorney General – met yesterday, the regular day of the week when its meetings are held. There was no Cabinet media briefing yesterday.

There were further rumours that the Attorney General was due to hold a press conference at Cabildo Chambers, St Vincent Street, Port-of-Spain yesterday afternoon though no official notification of this was sent. Reporters lined up outside Cabildo as the sun set.

Ramlogan, Mc Leod and Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar did not immediately respond to messages on the matter.

The Prime Minister returned to Trinidad at about 6.41 pm yesterday after official visits to Costa Rica and Washington DC last night. She was met by members of her Cabinet at the VIP Lounge of Piarco International Airport, but there was no media coverage.

COP wants swift probe

Congress of the People (COP) political leader Prakash Ramadhar yesterday called for a swift investigation into allegations made against Ramlogan saying such was essential to vindicate the rights of all.

Ramadhar said, “Such serious allegations must be investigated in a timely manner once there is substantial information to require it. This has been the COP’s position since May 2010 when we came into Government. We have applied it to all public officials, including those from our own party against whom serious allegations have been made.” The Legal Affairs Minister said a prompt investigation was needed to vindicate the, “rights of all involved”.

“What we need are the facts, the truth of the situation and if there is sufficient evidence for further action against anyone, that must also be proceeded with urgently. The seriousness of this matter demands the earliest resolution,” Ramadhar said.

This week, Ramadhar, as Legal Affairs Minister, attempted to get West to meet with him on the allegations but West asserted the independence of the PCA which he said did not report to a line minister, and felt it would be inappropriate to meet with Ramadhar.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on January 30, 2015, 07:34:35 AM
Extra Security given to West  (http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-01-30/extra-security-given-west)

Quote
National Security Minister Gary Griffith has been identified as a critical witness in the criminal investigation of misbehaviour in public office against Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, according to reliable police sources.

The information came as Assistant Commissioner of Police in charge of Crime, Harold Phillip, began his probe into the latest criminal allegation linked to the infamous Section 34 fiasco.

Contacted for comment yesterday, Griffith would only repeat: “I have no comment to make on that matter.”

But sources said Griffith intended to co-operate with police investigators in the matter.

West yesterday submitted a detailed signed witness statement to the police in support of his complaint that the Attorney General tried to get him to withdraw a witness statement he filed in defence of a defamation lawsuit between Ramlogan and Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley relating to the Section 34 matter.

This triggered acting Police Commissioner Stephen Williams to appoint Phillip to assemble a team to probe the allegation. West has also been provided with a security detail.

Sources said investigators will pore over a chain of events which will take them to the Hall of Justice, Port-of-Spain, to examine court records and through the telephone records of West, Ramlogan and Griffith among other people.

Sources said West last year had confided to a politician about attempts being made to influence him in a court matter. The attempts were made on the same day the High Court gave a decision in the defamation lawsuit against Rowley, police sources said.

Ramlogan, in a detailed press release on Monday, denied West’s allegations that he attempted to influence him to withdraw the witness statement in exchange for his appointment as director of the Police Complaints Authority.

That position, under the Constitution, requires consent from both the Prime Minister and Opposition Leader before it is sealed by the Office of the President.

Yesterday, members of the media gathered outside the AG’s offices, St Vincent Street, Port-of-Spain, after rumours spread  he was about to resign and make a statement at a press conference to that effect.

The AG was visited by Communication Minister Vasant Bharath and attorney Wayne Sturge at one point but no press conference materialised and the AG subsequently sent out a release in which he welcomed the probe on the matter.

Emailgate not going away

In a statement yesterday, AG Ramlogan called for a speedy enquiry and labelled the allegation part of a “political conspiracy.”

Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, Ramlogan, Griffith and Works and Transport Minister Suruj Rambachan were identified in a separate criminal investigation relating to the Section 34 matter, now dubbed Emailgate.

It was Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley, who in May 2012 disclosed in Parliament a thread of e-mails purportedly being exchanged between the four politicians in the wake of the passage of legislation which was tailored to benefit political financiers Ishwar Galbaransingh and Steve Ferguson, who were facing a series of fraud charges relating to the $1.6 billion Piarco Airport Development Project.

That matter, subject to two investigations by the Integrity Commission and the Police Service, are yet to be completed. :-\

The probe by the Integrity Commission has progressed somewhat with e-mail service provider Google to comply with a subpoena in a California, USA court to hand over the e-mail records of Ramlogan and Persad-Bissessar.

The police matter is now lodged with the United States Department of Justice, the T&T Guardian learned.

The conspiracy detailed in the thread of e-mails disclosed a plot to spy on Director of Public Prosecutions Roger Gaspard, remove him from office by influencing Chief Justice Ivor Archie to appoint Gaspard to the High Court bench and harm investigative journalist Denyse Renne among other things.


The four politicians have previously denied any wrongdoing in the Emailgate matter and described the thread of e-mails as a fabrication.

 
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: AB.Trini on January 30, 2015, 07:50:28 AM
Why? Why? Lord help us - what vile and pestilence foul and contemptible allegations continue to plague this land!!
 Is it time Mr. President call for a foreign independent inquiry to preside over there inquiries?  Or does the web of entanglement stretched to his powers that he too is stifled by those who offered unto Hume the office to preside as the ultimate voice over the happenings in this land?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Socapro on January 30, 2015, 08:10:57 AM
Why? Why? Lord help us - what vile and pestilence foul and contemptible allegations continue to plague this land!!
 Is it time Mr. President call for a foreign independent inquiry to preside over there inquiries?  Or does the web of entanglement stretched to his powers that he too is stifled by those who offered unto Hume the office to preside as the ultimate voice over the happenings in this land?


Isn't that obvious to you by now?
They are all corrupt inluding our president who is supposed to be indenpendent and to protect us from corrupt governments like the current one.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on February 01, 2015, 05:31:40 AM
All eyes on PM Kamla
By Renuka Singh (Guardian).


Two government ministers are among the four lawyers tipped to replace Attorney General Anand Ramlogan should his appointment be revoked tomorrow. Apart from Ramlogan, Police Complaints Authority (PCA) head David West could also see his appointment revoked. Cabinet insiders said the Prime Minister was “not aware” that he was a key witness in a civil matter involving Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley at the time of his appointment to the PCA.

Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar is expected to make a statement at 4 pm tomorrow at her office in St Clair. While she did not indicate what the topic of her statement would be, there is speculation that following massive external pressure to remove Ramlogan, she would address that issue.
 
The Sunday Guardian was informed that Persad-Bissessar held heated talks with key government ministers yesterday, looking for a way to address both the internal Cabinet tension and the external pressure from the public to remove Ramlogan from office. The four shortlisted candidates discussed at closed door meetings yesterday were Minister of the Environment Ganga Singh, Legal Affairs Minister Prakash Ramadhar, former attorney general Anthony Smart, and lawyer Larry Lalla.

The Sunday Guardian learned that both Singh and Smart—chairman of First Citizens—refused the position. While Ramadhar’s name is still technically in the ring, it is Lalla who may get the final nod of approval from Persad-Bissessar and her Cabinet. Though Lalla yesterday said he had not yet been approached, one Cabinet insider yesterday confirmed that his name was heading the pack to replace Ramlogan.

“The truth is she has not yet made a final decision, but Lalla’s name is being circulated,” one Cabinet insider said during a break in the meetings. Persad-Bissessar is expected to meet with Ramlogan and National Security Minister Gary Griffith before she addresses the situation publicly tomorrow.

Griffith has remained adamant that he will not bow to Cabinet pressure to recall his witness statement supporting West’s claim that Ramlogan sought to “pervert the course of justice” by asking him (West) to recant his witness statement in the Section 34 matter. It was reported that Griffith was asked by Ramlogan to confirm that West had recalled the witness statement. Griffith, it was reported, did not know what the statement was about.

Law Association: Anand must go

The Law Association of T&T yesterday issued a media release calling for Ramlogan to step down. The association said in the light of the police investigations, Ramlogan should step down in order to prevent an “erosion of confidence” in the Office of the Attorney General. The association said it made “no comment” on Ramlogan’s guilt or innocence but felt that given the circumstances, Ramlogan should be removed from the post of Attorney General.

According to the Law Association, to prevent the erosion of confidence in the Office of the AG, the investigations which have been embarked upon by the police should “be conducted thoroughly and expeditiously in the interest of the national community.”
Once the investigations are completed, the association said, any and all appropriate legal steps should be taken “with due expediency.”

Officeholders under probe should step aside—COP

The Congress of the People also issued a statement yesterday saying that it expected Persad-Bissessar to make an announcement “shortly.” “The Prime Minister has responsibility for appointments to ministerial offices and we await her decision in this matter,” Ramadhar said in the release. He reiterated that the COP’s position was that officeholders under investigation “should step aside while investigation proceeds.”

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on February 01, 2015, 10:38:50 AM
http://m.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-01-31/griffith-duped-approaching-west-security-head-ready-testify

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National Security Minister Gary Griffith confided in a Cabinet colleague on Thursday he was approached by Attorney General Anand Ramlogan to use his friendship with Police Complaints Authority head David West in order to confirm "if West recalled the documents" in the Section 34 defamation lawsuit against Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley.

However, Griffith appears ready to provide statements in the ongoing police probe in the allegations against the AG  to clear his name in the matter. The colleague yesterday said Griffith had informed them he was not aware of exactly what the “documents” in questions were but was just delivering a message on Ramlogan's behalf when he approached West in the matter. It was only later on that Griffith in fact realised it was the Section 34 lawsuit.

"It was only when he (Griffith) contacted West that he was told to leave that situation alone because the matter was before the court that he realised what was going on," Griffith;s colleague told the T&T Guardian yesterday.


Ramlogan had initially denied media reports  he had contacted West before his appointment to the PCA, asking him to withdraw his witness statement in a defamation lawsuit relating to the failed extradition involving Section 34 applicants Steve Ferguson and Ishwar Galbaransingh in exchange for him being selected for the PCA job. But West on Thursday refuted Ramlogan's denial, saying his recollection of the events were "diametrically opposed" to the Attorney General's.

West was also reported to have delivered a statement to the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) but the T&T Guardian has learnt that while a detailed, signed report was delivered to the acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams, nothing has been delivered to the DPP yet.

The T&T Guardian was informed that the timeline of the alleged discussions between Ramlogan, Griffith and West was the crux of the growing discord between the three, as Griffith has informed his colleagues that he was only passing a message on to West.

Cabinet interference

When contacted yesterday, Griffith said he was not speaking on the matter. "I have to be careful because the matter is before the court but I can say that I am in no way implicated," Griffith said. The T&T Guardian also learned that Griffith was refusing to back down or be cowed by his Cabinet colleagues. When asked how that was affecting the climate inside Cabinet, the insider said: "Griffith not too worried about that.

"He does not intend to retract or back down or not make that witness statement because his Cabinet colleagues are trying to get him to back down."
Griffith, the T&T Guardian learned, was "willing and ready to testify." Meanwhile, West himself yesterday said he hoped the matter would be investigated swiftly and said he stood ready to play his part in the investigation.

West, who was in Tobago for a meeting in Plymouth, also dispelled the AG’s claim that there was a political conspiracy against him saying: “I don’t agree with his words. I gave a statement to the commissioner of Police and that statement will be investigated by the Deputy Commissioner of Police.”

Cabinet interference

When contacted yesterday, Griffith said he was not speaking on the matter. "I have to be careful because the matter is before the court but I can say that I am in no way implicated," Griffith said. The T&T Guardian also learned that Griffith was refusing to back down or be cowed by his Cabinet colleagues. When asked how that was affecting the climate inside Cabinet, the insider said: "Griffith not too worried about that.

"He does not intend to retract or back down or not make that witness statement because his Cabinet colleagues are trying to get him to back down." Griffith, the T&T Guardian learned, was "willing and ready to testify." Meanwhile, West himself yesterday said he hoped the matter would be investigated swiftly and said he stood ready to play his part in the investigation.

West, who was in Tobago for a meeting in Plymouth, also dispelled the AG’s claim that there was a political conspiracy against him saying: “I don’t agree with his words. I gave a statement to the commissioner of Police and that statement will be investigated by the Deputy Commissioner of Police.”
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on February 02, 2015, 03:04:06 AM
Griffith threatens to walk
By Renuka Singh (Guardian).


National Security Minister Gary Griffith is threatening to quit in the face of scathing press release issued by Communication Minister Vasant Bharath yesterday accused him of making false claims and compromising the integrity of Cabinet.  Bharath was referring to reports that Griffith claimed he was pressured by his Cabinet colleagues not support a criminal complaint by Police Complaints Authority Director David West.

West claimed on Thursday that Attorney General Anand Ramlogan asked him (West) to withdraw his witness statement in a defamation case between Ramlogan and Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley in exchange for the PCA post.

Griffith is now threatening to expose private details of a meeting he and his wife, Congress of the People chairman, Nicole Dyer-Griffith were “summoned to” with Bharath and United National Congress’s campaign and advertising consultant Ernie Ross on Thursday in Woodbrook. In a subsequent interview though, Bharath denied calling Dyer-Griffith to any meeting and he also denied being present at any meeting with Griffith, Dyer-Griffith and Ross.

In a telephone interview yesterday, a livid Griffith, who was at the National Panorama semifinals, at the Queen’s Park Savannah, in Port-of-Spain, said that he was surprised that Bharath would be the first to say there was no Cabinet pressure on him to not support West. Griffith also criticised Bharath, claiming that the move to discredit him was a “red herring” designed to push him out of office.

“I do not need to sell my soul for a political seat and I am not begging anyone to stay, I could walk out of the Government tomorrow with my head high,” Griffith said. Griffith said Bharath never contacted him before issuing that statement and was shocked that Bharath would make such damning statements without verifying whether he did in fact say that Cabinet was putting pressure on him not to support West.

“It is surprising and ironic that the Minister of Communication is the first to jump out and make those statements. It is ironic that he of all people would be saying that but you know what they say about people who protest too much,” Griffith said.

He said it was “interesting” that Bharath would make such statements “as if he forgot” what played off between the four of us at a meeting at Ross’ office on Thursday, after news broke that Griffith was in fact maintaining that he would remain a witness against Ramlogan.

“The court of public opinion could judge me and I could keep my head high but I want Bharath to answer to the country what he was doing up in Ernie Ross office on Thursday and why they summoned me and Mrs Griffith to a meeting and what was said there,” Griffith said. “The Minister of Communication lacks the most basic common sense and manners if he cannot contact me before making these statements,” he said.

“Let them continue, I have no intention to lie to protect anyone and I am not going to be pressured to lie,” Griffith said. Despite Griffith’s threats, it was Bharath who drew first blood yesterday when he issued a media statement saying that Griffith’s word and actions had “compromised the integrity of Cabinet”.

Cabinet confusion

Former attorney general Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj said on Saturday that the entire Cabinet could be the subject of a police investigation if it proven that pressure had been applied to Griffith to withdraw his statement in support of West. The media release carried the headline “Bharath: Griffith’s claims ‘false and without basis’ and went on to say that Griffith’s claim that he was pressured by Cabinet was “COMPLETELY false and without any basis whatsoever!”

 “Any suggestion that such a request was made of the National Security Minister at the meeting of Cabinet last Thursday is completely and utterly false. The Cabinet never, at any time, attempted to do as Mr Griffith has claimed,” the release noted.

“In dismissing the claims, Minister Bharath added: “More than Mr Griffith’s claims being completely untrue is the fact that he has, by his actions, compromised the integrity of Cabinet, and has done so without any clear or rational reason,” Bharath’s release said.

“The irony of these claims are also very stark, when one considers that it is this Government that has done the most to not only maintain, but improve the processes and mechanisms that promote accountability and transparency in Government,” Bharath said.

AG to resign ...Lalla tipped for job

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan is set to resign today and attorney Larry Lalla is expected to be sworn in. The Cabinet change will take place before Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar makes her much anticipated announcement at 4 pm.

According to the Constitution, Cabinet must be made up of the Prime Minister and the Attorney General, so once Ramlogan steps down, Lalla would have to be signed in immediately in order to uphold the Constitutional description of what constitutes a government.

The T&T Guardian understands that Ramlogan has not met with Persad-Bissessar but instead was allowed to send a statement to her following reports that Police Complaints Authority (PCA) Director David West made a complaint to police, accusing Ramlogan of attempting to “pervert the course of justice” by asking him to withdraw his witness statement in a civil matter filed by Ramlogan against Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley.

The T&T Guardian was informed that Ramlogan met with three lawyers on Thursday; his private lawyer Pamela Elder SC, Wayne Sturge and Gerald Ramdeen. While both Sturge and Ramdeen were spotted entering Ramlogan’s office on Thursday, Elder refused to comment on “anything concerning the AG”, when contacted yesterday. Key members of the Cabinet met at Persad-Bissessar’s home in Phillpine, South Trinidad up until 4 am Sunday morning, sources said, but Ramlogan was a no show.

The T&T Guardian understands that he spent the past three days in his gated-community Palmiste home with his family, discussing his next step. The T&T Guardian was told that while Ramlogan appeared crest-fallen, he stands by his denial that he ever sought to bargain the PCA job as an inducement for West to withdraw his witness statement in the defamation case with Rowley.

“He has said that by the grace of God, he would prove this was a move driven by hate and vengeance,” the insider said. In a statement last Thursday, hours after West made his report, Ramlogan claimed the allegation was “part of a wider political conspiracy designed to damage the government as we draw closer to elections.”

National Security Minister Gary Griffith, who has been identified as a witness in West’s complaint, when he claimed that Ramlogan duped him into contacting West to follow up on whether the witness had withdrawn the witness statement as discussed. Griffith had claimed that he did not know the contents of the document he was asked to follow up on with West.

Griffith said yesterday that has been cleared by investigators and was not a suspect in anyway while the provisions of PCA Act 2006 protects West. Lalla, the T&T Guardian learned has not yet been informed of the confirmation of the appointment but has signalled to close friends that once approached, he would accept. “He is not saying anything until the Prime Minister speaks because he does not want to jump the gun,” a close friend said.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on February 02, 2015, 10:56:42 AM

Ramesh had a lot to say about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qzt5ApvCIE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qzt5ApvCIE)
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on February 02, 2015, 01:50:09 PM

Ramesh had a lot to say about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qzt5ApvCIE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qzt5ApvCIE)

Pot calling kettle black.

 ;D

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: AB.Trini on February 02, 2015, 05:40:46 PM
Griffith threatens to walk
By Renuka Singh (Guardian).


National Security Minister Gary Griffith is threatening to quit in the face of scathing press release issued by Communication Minister Vasant Bharath yesterday accused him of making false claims and compromising the integrity of Cabinet.  Bharath was referring to reports that Griffith claimed he was pressured by his Cabinet colleagues not support a criminal complaint by Police Complaints Authority Director David West.

West claimed on Thursday that Attorney General Anand Ramlogan asked him (West) to withdraw his witness statement in a defamation case between Ramlogan and Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley in exchange for the PCA post.

Griffith is now threatening to expose private details of a meeting he and his wife, Congress of the People chairman, Nicole Dyer-Griffith were “summoned to” with Bharath and United National Congress’s campaign and advertising consultant Ernie Ross on Thursday in Woodbrook. In a subsequent interview though, Bharath denied calling Dyer-Griffith to any meeting and he also denied being present at any meeting with Griffith, Dyer-Griffith and Ross.

In a telephone interview yesterday, a livid Griffith, who was at the National Panorama semifinals, at the Queen’s Park Savannah, in Port-of-Spain, said that he was surprised that Bharath would be the first to say there was no Cabinet pressure on him to not support West. Griffith also criticised Bharath, claiming that the move to discredit him was a “red herring” designed to push him out of office.

“I do not need to sell my soul for a political seat and I am not begging anyone to stay, I could walk out of the Government tomorrow with my head high,” Griffith said. Griffith said Bharath never contacted him before issuing that statement and was shocked that Bharath would make such damning statements without verifying whether he did in fact say that Cabinet was putting pressure on him not to support West.

“It is surprising and ironic that the Minister of Communication is the first to jump out and make those statements. It is ironic that he of all people would be saying that but you know what they say about people who protest too much,” Griffith said.

He said it was “interesting” that Bharath would make such statements “as if he forgot” what played off between the four of us at a meeting at Ross’ office on Thursday, after news broke that Griffith was in fact maintaining that he would remain a witness against Ramlogan.

“The court of public opinion could judge me and I could keep my head high but I want Bharath to answer to the country what he was doing up in Ernie Ross office on Thursday and why they summoned me and Mrs Griffith to a meeting and what was said there,” Griffith said. “The Minister of Communication lacks the most basic common sense and manners if he cannot contact me before making these statements,” he said.

“Let them continue, I have no intention to lie to protect anyone and I am not going to be pressured to lie,” Griffith said. Despite Griffith’s threats, it was Bharath who drew first blood yesterday when he issued a media statement saying that Griffith’s word and actions had “compromised the integrity of Cabinet”.

Cabinet confusion

Former attorney general Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj said on Saturday that the entire Cabinet could be the subject of a police investigation if it proven that pressure had been applied to Griffith to withdraw his statement in support of West. The media release carried the headline “Bharath: Griffith’s claims ‘false and without basis’ and went on to say that Griffith’s claim that he was pressured by Cabinet was “COMPLETELY false and without any basis whatsoever!”

 “Any suggestion that such a request was made of the National Security Minister at the meeting of Cabinet last Thursday is completely and utterly false. The Cabinet never, at any time, attempted to do as Mr Griffith has claimed,” the release noted.

“In dismissing the claims, Minister Bharath added: “More than Mr Griffith’s claims being completely untrue is the fact that he has, by his actions, compromised the integrity of Cabinet, and has done so without any clear or rational reason,” Bharath’s release said.

“The irony of these claims are also very stark, when one considers that it is this Government that has done the most to not only maintain, but improve the processes and mechanisms that promote accountability and transparency in Government,” Bharath said.

AG to resign ...Lalla tipped for job

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan is set to resign today and attorney Larry Lalla is expected to be sworn in. The Cabinet change will take place before Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar makes her much anticipated announcement at 4 pm.

According to the Constitution, Cabinet must be made up of the Prime Minister and the Attorney General, so once Ramlogan steps down, Lalla would have to be signed in immediately in order to uphold the Constitutional description of what constitutes a government.

The T&T Guardian understands that Ramlogan has not met with Persad-Bissessar but instead was allowed to send a statement to her following reports that Police Complaints Authority (PCA) Director David West made a complaint to police, accusing Ramlogan of attempting to “pervert the course of justice” by asking him to withdraw his witness statement in a civil matter filed by Ramlogan against Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley.

The T&T Guardian was informed that Ramlogan met with three lawyers on Thursday; his private lawyer Pamela Elder SC, Wayne Sturge and Gerald Ramdeen. While both Sturge and Ramdeen were spotted entering Ramlogan’s office on Thursday, Elder refused to comment on “anything concerning the AG”, when contacted yesterday. Key members of the Cabinet met at Persad-Bissessar’s home in Phillpine, South Trinidad up until 4 am Sunday morning, sources said, but Ramlogan was a no show.

The T&T Guardian understands that he spent the past three days in his gated-community Palmiste home with his family, discussing his next step. The T&T Guardian was told that while Ramlogan appeared crest-fallen, he stands by his denial that he ever sought to bargain the PCA job as an inducement for West to withdraw his witness statement in the defamation case with Rowley.

“He has said that by the grace of God, he would prove this was a move driven by hate and vengeance,” the insider said. In a statement last Thursday, hours after West made his report, Ramlogan claimed the allegation was “part of a wider political conspiracy designed to damage the government as we draw closer to elections.”

National Security Minister Gary Griffith, who has been identified as a witness in West’s complaint, when he claimed that Ramlogan duped him into contacting West to follow up on whether the witness had withdrawn the witness statement as discussed. Griffith had claimed that he did not know the contents of the document he was asked to follow up on with West.

Griffith said yesterday that has been cleared by investigators and was not a suspect in anyway while the provisions of PCA Act 2006 protects West. Lalla, the T&T Guardian learned has not yet been informed of the confirmation of the appointment but has signalled to close friends that once approached, he would accept. “He is not saying anything until the Prime Minister speaks because he does not want to jump the gun,” a close friend said.


What time is it !r Wolfe?  Bacchanal time - are we. Witnessing an implosion of political magnitude?  Is the partnership  about to sink?  When will the President step in and invoke  impeach  a  governance that  is showing signs of incompetence?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: MEP on February 02, 2015, 05:54:11 PM
she fire half de government
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: elan on February 02, 2015, 06:02:27 PM
papayo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jumbie on February 02, 2015, 06:12:11 PM
Are these correct?

Prakash Ramadhar Minister of Justice.
Christine Newallo-Hosein, Minister of the People and Social Development
Brent Sancho Minister of Sport
Quasi Matuma - Minister in the Ministry of Works and Infrastructure
Carl Alphonso Minister of National Security
Garvin Nicholas Attorney General
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bitter on February 02, 2015, 06:24:16 PM
The AG and Gary Griffith have been axed
Garvin Nicholas is the new AG, Brigadier Carl Alfonso is the National Security Minister


By Richard Charan
Story Created: Feb 2, 2015 at 8:21 PM ECT
Story Updated: Feb 2, 2015 at 8:21 PM ECT
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/The-AG-and-Gary-Griffth-have-been-axed-290593551.html

PRIME Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar has asked that the President revoke the appointments of Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, National Security Minister Gary Griffith, and Director of the Police Complaints Authority (PCA) David West, for their roles in witness-tampering investigation ordered by Acting Police Commissioner Stephen Williams.

Garvin Nicholas will be the new Attorney General, and retired Brigadier Carl Alfonso is the National Security Minister.

The Prime Minister has also removed Senate President Timothy Hamel-Smith, Sports Minister Rupert Griffith, Ministry in the Works and Transport Minister Stacy Roopnarine, and Justice Minister Emmanuel George. Persad Bissessar has given up the portfolio of Social Development and People Ministry.

Legal Affairs Minister Prakash Ramadhar will take on the Justice Ministry. Former advisor in the Office of the Prime Minister Christine Nawal Hosein is the new Minister of Social Development and the People. Soca Warrior footballer Brent Sancho is the Sports Minister, NJAC member Kwesu Motumba is now a minister in the Works and Infrastructure Ministry.

In an 18 minutes address that began eight minutes later than its planned 7.30p.m start, Persad-Bissessar addressed the nation.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Jumbie on February 02, 2015, 07:29:29 PM
That AG should have been gone a LONG time now, but I do feel sorry for GG.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on February 02, 2015, 08:38:29 PM
she fire half de government

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Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on February 02, 2015, 09:09:54 PM
Rupert Griffith get fired... why?  And what David West do? Lol.


Things Fall Apart...
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on February 03, 2015, 03:01:27 AM
Witness tampering scandal: PM calls on West to resign
By Ria Taitt Political Editor


KAMLA’S OLE MAS

In an address of 2,164 words last night, made necessary by the allegations against the Attorney General, the Prime Minister dedicated virtually one line to her outgoing Attorney General Anand Ramlogan.

“The Attorney General has vehemently denied the allegation” (of witness tampering), she said.

But Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar went to town on Police Complaints Authority (PCA) Director David West, criticised the actions of her outgoing National Security Minister Gary Griffith and waded into Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley.

The Prime Minister suggested that Griffith had a moral obligation to tell her if and when Ramlogan had asked him to place a call to West (seeking to have West withdraw his witness statement).

“The question is whether the Minister was not under an obligation to inform me, as the Prime Minister, that he made such a call. The situation would have been very different had such a request not been made and this matter been brought to my earlier attention,” she said, noting that Griffith admitted to making “such a call”.

The Prime Minister went after West, whose resignation she vociferously called for and whose position she insisted had now been severely compromised. She asserted West’s office as Director of the PCA had been compromised and brought into disrepute by the allegations, along with the office of the Attorney General and the Minister of National Security.

“I cast no aspersions on the capacity or performance of those that hold these positions, but cannot have these offices be so embroiled in conflict and controversy eroding public confidence in the institutions which they lead.... What is also of equally grave concern to me, as it must be to the nation, is the compromised position of the Director of the PCA, arising out of this situation. The question must arise as to why he did not make it known to me or to His Excellency President Anthony Carmona when the position of heading the PCA was offered to him in November,” the Prime Minister stated.

“Further,” she asked, “why did he wait until now to make public this matter.”

“The head of the Police Complaints Authority has the responsibility to investigate complaints against police officers. He would find himself doing so now while he himself has filed a matter for investigation to the Commissioner of Police,” the Prime Minister stated.

She added: “The threat of conflict of interest or perception thereof clearly emerges and compromises the role of the head of the PCA”.

The ball is now in the President’s court as to whether he would heed the Prime Minister’s statements and remove West from office.

All this happened in the process of telling the nation that she had fired or as she put it—“asked for the resignations of” the Attorney General and Griffith.

She said she received the resignation of the Attorney General, who has been replaced by former High Commissioner to the UK, Garvin Nicholas.

Griffith, who has been replaced by Brigadier General Carl Alfonso, (a former executive director at the Prime Minister’s residence and Diplomatic Centre), later stated that he did not tender his resignation.

Both Ramlogan and Griffith are “embroiled” in the witness tampering allegation drama. The Prime Minister’s reshuffle went further though, and she threw out three other members of her Government—Emmanuel George and Embau Moheni.

The shock revocation was that of Senate President Timothy Hamel-Smith, for which the Prime Minister gave no elaboration.

Questions now arise as to who would replace Hamel-Smith as all the government members of Senate have ministerial portfolios, with the exception of James Lambert, the Vice President.

The Senate requires two members on the Government side to not have portfolios in order to serve as President and Vice President, especially since the President of the Senate acts for the President of the Republic when he is abroad.

It means that someone may have to be relieved of their ministerial portfolio in order to have the Senate properly constituted.

The other new faces to the Cabinet are:

* Brent Sancho, former national footballer, has now been added to the Cabinet as Minister of Sport, ( leaving Rupert Griffith once again with Science and Technology)

* Christine Newallo-Hosein, a former Advisor to the Prime Minister at the Ministry of the People and Social Development, as Minister of the People and

* Kwasi Mutema, Minister in the Ministry in Works and Infrastructure.

George’s justice portfolio is now added to Prakash Ramadhar’s Ministry of Legal Affairs; and Stacy Roopnarine, was moved from Works and assigned to Gender, Youth and Child Development.

The five new members of the Government would be in office for a maximum of seven months as the country is on the “cusp” of a general election.

The Prime Minister spent much of her address criticising Rowley, saying he had an obligation to inform the President, if the knew, about the alleged witness tampering allegation.

“Failure by the Opposition Leader to do so at the time when he was consulted about the appointment by myself- we had discussions...it would also have been obligatory upon him to have informed His Excellency.

Failure by the Opposition Leader to do so at the time does create doubt to any independent observer as to why no mention was made at the time of the appointment in November.... Given the political sensitivity and nature of the alleged incidents it would have been not just prudent but mandatory that both myself and His Excellency, the President be informed. Withholding such information has seriously compromised the appointment of the Director of the PCA,” the Prime Minister said.

She also chastised Rowley for not disclosing that West was involved as a witness in the defamation lawsuit brought by Ramlogan against him. “Had there been a disclosure by the Opposition Leader of the personal interest in a legal matter involving himself and the Director of the PCA at the point of his nomination to be head of the PCA, the conflict of interest would have been declared,” the Prime Minister said.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on February 03, 2015, 03:04:52 AM
AG: I was target of opposition forces
T&T Newsday Reports.


ATTORNEY General Anand Ramlogan last night said he understood the decision of Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar to accept his resignation saying it was in the public interest.

In a press release, Ramlogan said, “I understand and accept the decision of the Honourable Prime Minister to relieve me of my duties as a Senator and Attorney General. The Prime Minister has acted in the public interest to uphold the Constitution and the Rule of Law and I support these higher ideals.”

Ramlogan continued, “The job of Attorney General is a challenging and difficult one. I was marked from the day I was appointed, as I became a favourite target of forces opposed to the Government. It has not been an easy ride but I am happy that I was given the opportunity to be of service to my Government and country.” He also stated, “I wish to thank the many who supported me during my tenure.

“My accomplishments, dedication and hard work would not have been possible without their loyalty and commitment. I am grateful that I had the opportunity to serve in the People’s Partnership administration and wish to reassure the Honourable Prime Minister, my Cabinet colleagues and the public that I remain firmly committed to building a better nation for our children to inherit.” See Page 9A

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: kounty on February 03, 2015, 11:02:05 AM
bet yuh West on a political platform in few months time as the antithesis of kams & crew. bounce she head.
Title: Rowley on Ramlogan resignation: Good riddance!
Post by: Socapro on February 04, 2015, 03:39:22 AM
Rowley on Ramlogan resignation: Good riddance! (http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-02-04/rowley-ramlogan-resignation-good-riddance)
By Richard Lord (T&T Guardian)
Published: Wednesday, February 4, 2015

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p12/Socapro/Prime%20Minister%20Kamla%20Persad-Bissessar%20centre%20speaks%20to%20her%20newly%20appointed%20ministers.png) (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Socapro/media/Prime%20Minister%20Kamla%20Persad-Bissessar%20centre%20speaks%20to%20her%20newly%20appointed%20ministers.png.html)
Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, centre, speaks to her newly appointed ministers during a break at yesterday's sitting of the Senate at the International Waterfront, Port-of-Spain. From left is Kwasi Mutema, minister in the Ministry of National Security; Attorney General Garvin Nicholas; Sport Minister Brent Sancho; Minister of the People Christine Newallo-Hosein and National Security Minister retired Brig Gen Carl Alfonso. PHOTO: JEFF MAYERS

Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley says Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar’s removal of Anand Ramlogan as attorney general was an act to formalise his public rejection. He was speaking during a news conference at his Charles Street, Port-of-Spain, office yesterday. Ramlogan was among four ministers who were removed from the Cabinet. Senate President Timothy Hamel-Smith was also sacked without explanation.
 
Monday’s cabinet reshuffle was the fourth by Persad-Bissessar since assuming office in 2010. Rowley said Persad-Bissessar, in her address to the nation, went out of her way to distract the population from the issue at hand, adding that if she had the authority she would have attempted to remove Police Complaints Authority Director David West from office.
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 Rowley said since Ramlogan’s appointment in 2010, Persad-Bissessar had protected him and given him unwavering support. Rowley said that was done although Ramlogan “continued on a daily, weekly, monthly and yearly basis to embarrass the population, disrespect his office and put the Government and the public interests at risk.”
 
Ramlogan is being investigated by the police in response to a complaint made by West that he offered him the post of PCA director in exchange for his withdrawing a witness statement in a defamation matter Ramlogan filed against Rowley. Gary Griffith was also removed from the Cabinet as the national security minister, for failing to report to the PM that Ramlogan allegedly asked him to get West to withdraw the witness statement.
 
Rowley said Ramlogan was facing a criminal investigation for which, if charged and found guilty, he could face a 20-year jail term. “That was just too much for the population to take,” Rowley added. “It was the general sentiment in T&T that enough was enough of Anand Ramlogan,” Rowley added. Rowley said the PM raised “red herrings to distract” from the stark development of her attorney general being investigated for a criminal offence.
 
Rowley said the PM made no mention of that calamity in her address. He said it remained unclear as to whether Ramlogan resigned or was fired as the PM did not indicate. He said Persad-Bissessar was the only prime minister who boasted about the number of ministers she had removed after appointing them.
 
No problem with West
Rowley said it was an absurdity for the PM to raise new issues concerning West. In response to Persad-Bissessar’s claim that he, Rowley, should have advised her that West was a witness in a defamation matter between Ramlogan and himself, Rowley said he was not an adviser to the PM and Ramlogan was fully aware of the development. He added Ramlogan, as attorney general, was the official adviser to the Cabinet.
 
Rowley said he maintained his position that West was the most suitable person to head the PCA. “The suitability of David West to be head of the PCA has nothing to do with him being a witness,” Rowley added.
 
What about Vasant
Rowley is also asking why no action was taken against Communication Minister Vasant Bharath, who, he said “is under a similar allegation for the same crime.” He questioned whether the nation would have “to wait until a statement is given to the police about the Minister of Communication and others before she then takes them on board.” He said the headline was “not David West, not Keith Rowley, the headline is an attorney general who has done until he has over-done.”
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on February 09, 2015, 11:46:12 AM

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-02-09/people-will-vote-party-not-leader (http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-02-09/people-will-vote-party-not-leader)


Quote

Panday said he welcome a probe into alleged witness tampering involving former Ramlogan. He said the probe must me a meaningful one and there should be no cover up.He said if there was a cover up the entire exercise would be meaningless.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on February 26, 2015, 02:45:10 AM
Probe into former AG Ramlogan: Cops quiz Gary again.
By Renuka Singh (Guardian).


Police investigators yesterday questioned former national security minister Gary Griffith as the probe  continued into Police Complaints Authority director David West’s allegation that former attorney general Anand Ramlogan attempted to pervert the course of justice. While investigators have been keeping the details of their probe close to their chests, one police source yesterday revealed Griffith spent several hours being grilled by investigators assigned by Deputy Commissioner of Police Harold Phillip.

The source said when Griffith, who filed police statements in the ongoing matter earlier this month, emerged from the office just after 4 pm yesterday, he seemed visibly upset and was heard commenting that Ramlogan had asked him “just five words” and it led to “all of this.” The T&T Guardian attempted to contact Griffith several times yesterday evening but his mobile phone had been switched off.

On January 29 West delivered a statement to acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams, in which he claimed Ramlogan had asked him to withdraw his (West) witness statement in the defamation lawsuit involving People’s National Movement leader Dr Keith Rowley, in exchange for West being selected for the PCA job. That lawsuit involves the failed extradition of Section 34 applicants Steve Ferguson and Ish Galbaransingh.

The police probe was announced later that same day. Ramlogan, who has denied the claims, was removed from office by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, who noted that the probe was one of the reasons for his removal. She also removed Griffith as well after he became embroiled in the debacle between Ramlogan and West.

Griffith has confirmed that he was approached by Ramlogan to use his friendship with West  to confirm “if West recalled the documents” in the Section 34 lawsuit. He has maintained, however, that he was not aware of exactly what the “documents” in question were but was just delivering a message on Ramlogan’s behalf when he approached West in the matter. He has also claimed that some of his former Cabinet colleagues attempted to get him to change his mind when he supported West’s claims.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bourbon on March 14, 2015, 11:40:15 PM
So....the documents involving David West's statements have been circulated on the internet. Take a look...and read..and draw your conclusions.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xm1l6qzn3bgdkj5/File%20Copy%20of%20Witness%20Statement%20of%20David%20West%20Pgs%201-6-4.pdf?dl=0



Part 2:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xhe4on3s6hljqw0/File%20Copy%20of%20Witness%20Statement%20of%20David%20West%20Pgs%207-12.pdf?dl=0
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Sando prince on March 16, 2015, 07:44:31 PM


T&TEC rules flouted for ex-AG

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/TTEC-rules-flouted-for-ex-AG-296392691.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/TTEC-rules-flouted-for-ex-AG-296392691.html)

By Aniks Gumbs CCN Senior Multimedia Investigate Journalist

FORMER attorney general Anand Ramlogan is among selected customers who benefitted from the hefty reduction of major contracting fees at debt-ridden State-owned Trinidad and Tobago Electricity Commission (T&TEC).
Only last year it was revealed that T&TEC is running a deficit of some $1 billion per annum because of old equipment.
But, according to Ramlogan, the revised sum of $247,253.86 from the original $642,999.84 was what T&TEC officials advised him to pay for the relocation of high tension wires sloping over a vacant parcel of land at Estate Drive, Phillipine.
T&TEC officials told the Express that the high tension wires (66,000 volts) needed to be relocated before construction could commence on the land.
The job, which involves the diversion of the Penal-Phillipine 66 KV circuit, was originally estimated at $642,999.84.
And attempts by the Express to get answers from Ramlogan as to how the fee was revised have not been forthcoming.
Ramlogan has also refused to say why T&TEC, in a letter dated December 11, 2014, wrote to Azad Mohammed and not him advising of the revised sum of $247,253.86.
The December 11 letter lists Mohammed’s address as #19 Lazzari Trace, Block Two, Palmiste.
Express investigations revealed that the Lazzari Trace address matches that of a townhouse situated next to the one Ramlogan occupies at Palm Villas, Palmiste while his nearby private residence undergoes renovation.
Mohammed has also not responded to telephone calls and text messages sent to him by the Express seeking clarification on his involvement in the T&TEC transaction.
Investigations revealed that the $247,253.86 payment was made for Ramlogan on January 1, 2015, exactly one month before he was fired in light of witness-tampering allegations involving Police Complaints Authority director David West.
Questions as to how Freedom Law Chambers came in possession of the December 11 letter and ended up faxing it to T&TEC the same day the $247,253.86 payment for the job was made were also not answered by Ramlogan.
Ramlogan, who once headed Freedom Law Chambers, is on record as saying that he handed the firm to his legal partner Cindy Bhagwandeen when he was appointed AG in 2010.
So why was Freedom Law Chambers involved in a transaction with Ramlogan while he was AG?

Ramlogan would not say

Asked by the Express on February 27 to explain the involvement of Mohammed and Freedom Law Chambers in the T&TEC transaction, Ramlogan via a text message replied: “These questions should be addressed to T&TEC which is in possession of the relevant facts including the payments I was advised to make relative to this issue.”
Investigations revealed that the major contracting fees were initially calculated based on the scope of the job, which includes the installation of eight 21-metre poles, two 12-metre poles and the transferring of conductors.
The job also includes the removal of three 17-metre poles and fittings.
According to the manager transmission maintenance Chrisalston Belle, development of infrastructure in the area was the reason for the revised fee.
In the December 11 letter, Belle wrote: “The civil infrastructure within the area was developed after our initial survey, thus creating additional options for installation of our infrastructure. As a result the Commission revised its design and the new costs for the relocation is $247,253.86 plus Value Added Tax. This cost is valid for three months from the date of this letter and must be paid before the job is scheduled.”

Ramsook misleads

However, T&TEC general manager Kelvin Ramsook told the Express that the revised fee was based on an e-mail directive he gave on September 22, 2011.
At the time Ramsook issued the e-mail regarding the revised fees for major contracting jobs he had no authority to do so.
In fact, the general manger at the time was Glenford Cyrille who had the sole authority to revise the T&TEC general instruction regarding fees for major contracting jobs.
Investigations revealed that at the time of the September 22 e-mail , Ramsook held the substantive post of assistant general manager distribution. Ramsook later replaced Cyrille. Ramsook sent a copy of a September 22, 2011 e-mail to the Express in what he claimed was a directive for the revised fees.
Investigations revealed that the e-mail was not sent to Cyrille, who held the post of general manager from May 1, 2011 to November 18, 2011.
The e-mail read: “Please be reminded that all requests for pole relocation or property that belongs to T&TEC, the actual cost to do the job must be charged to the customer with no add on 50 per cent. The 50 per cent add on is when we do work installation that do not belong to the Commission i.e. when we work as a contractor to the company making request for the service.
“Example: Ministry of Works relocation of poles jobs should have no mark up 50 per cent increase as well as labour.”
The September 22 e-mail was sent to the following area managers: Zainool Mohammed, Felix Alleyne, Rene Austin, Anthony McIntosh and Alvin Ramsaran. Further investigations, however, revealed that Ramsook’s directive was issued to the heads of distribution and not to the transmission department at T&TEC that is responsible for the job at Estate Drive, Phillipine. Pole relocation forms a subset of major contracting at T&TEC and can either be done by the distribution or transmission departments.
However, the distribution department deals with pole relocation that carries voltages less than 33,000 volts, while the transmission department handles voltages above that.
Further probing revealed that at the time of Ramsook’s directive the five area managers were assigned to the following district distribution departments:
Mohammed (Central)
Alleyne (Eastern)
Austin (Southern)
McIntosh (Tobago)
Ramsaran (Northern)

Neither Ramsook nor any of the five area managers had the authority to revise the major contracting fees.
The job at Estate Drive, Phillipine falls under the transmission department that has no new general instruction to revise fees for major contracting jobs.
Official documents obtained by the Express also revealed that three weeks ago, copies of the files containing the revised fees given to several companies were removed from the transmission department.
Perusal of the documents by the Express, however, showed that the directive to revise the fees listed at the bottom of each job scope was inked off with a black marker.

Fees flouted based
on 2011 e-mail

Asked why was the directive inked off from the various job scopes if the September 22 e-mail was legitimate, Ramsook said: “The directive was given since 2011.”
Explaining that T&TEC is involved in two types of major contracting, Ramsook said: “There are jobs where T&TEC works as a private contractor and charges the 50 per cent. If a normal pole relocation has to be done where T&TEC may have had poles on the premises of someone and for some reason the poles need to be relocated a request needs to made. When the request is made T&TEC charges the actual cost and an administrative cost.”
Told that the e-mail is in contrast to the general instruction of T&TEC for major contracting jobs, Ramsook said: “We have been reviewing our general instruction which is done by the general manager, so from time to time this was one that required clarification.”
Asked to explain why Mohammed was involved in Ramlogan’s transaction at T&TEC, Ramsook said: “You may probably have contractors acting on behalf of clients and they make representation for the relocation of the poles.
“We ask for ownership documents for connection purposes. A contractor may make a request on behalf of a client. First of all, I am not confirming what you’re saying.
“I have correspondence from Mr Azad Mohammed. I recall that situation so I can only confirm for Azad Mohammed.”
As to whether T&TEC was only in possession of documentation from Mohammed and not Ramlogan, Ramsook said: “Hold on, from the information I have it is Azad Mohammed who made the request for the relocation of the said job. There may be other documentation, but I have to check.”
Told that T&TEC received payment for the Estate Drive, Phillipine job on January, 14, 2015, Ramsook said: “Well, you have it before you, Ma’am, so let us move on.”
Asked if T&TEC contacted Ramlogan, he said. “Remember you are in the media. I gave you the information about Mr Azad Mohammed. I would have really like to leave it there.”

What T&TEC general
instruction states

According to the T&TEC general instruction (NO: FA03/1208), estimates for major contracting jobs are to be billed as followed:
*Labour utilising the man hour rate plus 50 per cent
*Materials from stock at stock list price plus 50 per cent
*Outside purchases at the cost plus10 per cent
*Transport costs utilising the mileage rate

n About the investigation

list of some of the jobs that benefitted from Ramsook’s directive:
*Removal of down guys on the CNC-Savonetta 66KV circuit;
*Diversion of the Lady Hailes-Harmony Hall and the Lady Hailes-Gulf View 66 KV circuits for the Water and Sewerage Authority to construct a sewerage treatment plant;
* De-energise, isolate and earth the North Oropouche-Wallerfield 66KV circuit on multiple days for the construction of a bridge at Valencia by the National Infrastructure Development Company;
* Diversion of the Penal-Phillipine 66KV circuit; and
*Diversion of the Bamboo-Macoya/ Trincity 66 KV
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on March 17, 2015, 01:56:31 AM
CLEAR PM, ANAND
By NALINEE SEELAL (Newsday).


POLICE investigators have reportedly found no criminal misconduct on the part of Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and former Attorney General Anand Ramlogan in the emailgate affair and are recommending both be cleared of all accusations.

The recommendations are said to be in a draft document prepared by Superintendent of Police Baldeo Nanan who led a team of officers investigating the claims which linked several Government officials to criminal conduct.

Also prominently mentioned in the matter were Minister of Works and Infrastructure Suruj Rambachan and former Minister of National Security Gary Griffith. According to Newsday sources, documents relating to Rambachan and Griffith are yet to be perused by investigators.

The Nanan document was reportedly sent to Deputy Police Commissioner Glen Hackett for his perusal and is expected to be made available to Deputy Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Joan Honore-Paul in a few days time.

Newsday understands Nanan and his team of five officers completed their examination of documents from Google International last Friday and over the weekend, with the assistance of legal officers from the Police Service, prepared the document in which they found no evidence to suggest the Prime Minister and Ramlogan were involved in any criminal misconduct.

The officers also provided a copy of emails read in Parliament in 2013 by Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley and the emails provided by Google for the period September 1 to September 30, 2012.

The emails from Google are said to differ from emails which were presented in Parliament by Rowley. TTPS Head of Corporate Communications Ellen Lewis, when contacted yesterday to ascertain whether Hackett had received the draft document from Nanan, would only say, “The investigations are ongoing.”

Lewis said she made a check with Hackett who said he was not in possession of any draft document at that time from the team of officers probing the controversy. Newsday understands officers are yet to receive from Google the emails for the same period sent and received by Rambachan and Griffith.

This means the police will have to wait until those documents are received from Google before they can proceed with the enquiry or bring it to an end. Sources revealed the CD from Google which contained nine folders was perused by officers and matched against the emails purported to have been sent and received by the PM and Ramlogan for the period September 1 to September 30, 2012.

Newsday understands that after Honore-Paul meets with the police on the matter, a statement could be issued. The CD was described by Acting Police Commissioner Stephen Williams as voluminous, but he promised that when the review is completed and direction sought it will be made public.

The number of emails shared between Ramlogan and Persad-Bissessar are reported to be close to 100, while the other emails consist of exchanges between the PM, the former AG, Griffith and Rambachan.

The emails were sent by Google through the United States State Department of Justice to Netram Kowlessar, of the Central Authority based at the office of the Attorney General on January 29.

Sources revealed a covering letter was signed by an official of the Justice Department on behalf of Mary D Rodriguez, Acting Director of the Office of International Affairs in Washington.

Newsday understands copies of the emails were sent to the Office of the DPP and Acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams.

The compilation of emails was passed on to the police legal department by Williams and officers there started reviewing the emails along with those presented in Parliament. Persad-Bissessar has indicated she will be taking legal action against Rowley for defamation of character.

It is further understood the US Department of Justice confirmed there was no responsive information in relation to the email address: anan@gmail.com, but materials in relation to the addresses of Griffith and Rambachan were still outstanding.

The Department of Justice reportedly sent a response following a request for assistance over allegations of misconduct in public office against the Government officials. Police are mindful that the Integrity Commission is doing its own probe into the matter.

In May 2013, Rowley alleged a conspiracy to murder a journalist and to pervert justice, during a motion of no-confidence against the Government. He produced what he said were email exchanges among the Prime Minister and Government ministers in relation to the circumstances surrounding the early proclamation of Section 34, which sought to bar prosecution of persons on charges more than ten years old — a move which it was suggested could potentially have freed UNC financiers Steve Ferguson and Ish Galbaransingh who are facing white-collar crime charges.

Immediately after Rowley made the allegations, Persad-Bissessar referred the matter to the police for investigation. The case was assigned to Assistant Commissioner of Police Mervyn Richardson but upon Richardson’s retirement, the matter was assigned to Hackett in late 2013.

Newsday understands Hackett made a request of the Central Authority to seek assistance from the US Department of Justice, calling for any relevant information and to conduct checks to test the claims made. The investigator is said to have called for any emails for the period August 31, 2012, to September 30, 2012, relating to the named email accounts.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on March 22, 2015, 05:04:19 AM
Company with no legal expertise awarded $1.7m contract under ex-AG’s office
By DENYSE RENNE (Express).


MYSTERY TIGER

The Office of the Attorney Gene­ral retained the services of a company with no legal expertise among its directors to give advice relating to mutual legal assistance by the United States of America.

The company, Tiger Capital Ltd, was paid $1,750,000 on Novembe­r 18, 2014, for advice, despite having no legal expertise.

The company’s directors are a building contractor, proprietor and financial consultant.

Exactly what advice was sought and disseminated to the Central Authority of the Attorney General’s office remains a mystery since no one at the offices of the Attorney General or Central Authority seems to know the circumstances under which Tiger Capital Ltd was retained and how its fees were calculated.

The authority falls under the purview of the Office of the Attorney General and works closely with regional and international foreign agencies in extradition requests, as well as assists with criminal cases (retrieving of documentation, etc). The authority is headed by attorney Netram Kowlessa­r.

When contacted yesterday morning, sources at the Department of Justice in Washington, DC, USA, told the Sunday Express they are not familiar with the company and have never received any request for information nor given any information to any entit­y in Trinidad and Tobago known as Tiger Capital Ltd.

Stressing that all requests for information have always been made through the Central Authorit­y and vice versa, an official said, “Rest assured the Department of Justice would never provide confidential information to any entity which does not fall under the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty. There are strict guidelines which must be adhered to when requesting information and must be signed off by the head of the Central Authorit­y”.

An official statement from the Department of Justice responding to e-mailed questions from the Sunday Express regarding Tiger Capital Ltd is expected to be given by next week.

Details of what services were rendered and what cases or matters and the advice given remain unknown since only “Request for Mutual Assistance by the USA” was stated on the invoice submitted by Tiger Capital Ltd.

Sources told the Sunday Express staff at the Attorney General’s office are also in the dark as to what services, if any, this company gave and who recommended Tiger Capital Ltd since the company is not known within the legal circles locally, regionally or internationally.

Checks by the Sunday Express revealed that apart from the directors and secretary, the company is not staffed.

Other questions being posed by staff include why is the Central Authority, a department within the Office of the Attorney General, granting briefs to an unknown entity when the authority is staffed with individuals versed in drafting documents for extradition and mutual assistance.

Additionally, invoices show that Senior Counsel Pamela Elder was paid $1,150,000 on November 18, 2014.

Elder’s invoice stated the fee was for “Request for mutual legal assistance by the USA dated 15/10/14”.

Elder, according to invoices obtained by the Sunday Express, appeared in several extradition matters for the Central Authority.

On April 8,2014, Elder was paid $546,250 for the extradition of Amarnath Jagmohan vs Attorney General and others. On November 26, 2014, Elder was paid $276,000 for the extradition of Jagmohan dated 05/06/14.

Another attorney, Jagdeo Singh, also sought the authority’s interest in extradition matters.

On January 17, 2014, Singh received $201,250 for appearing in the matter of Jason Anthony Nelson to the United Kingdom.

He again received $201,250 on January 23, 2014, for that same matter and that same amount on March 8, 2014, for the extradition request of Desmond Davy.

A firm called Walkers received $16,072.89 for mutual legal assistance.

Checks by the Sunday Express at the Supreme Court in Port of Spain revealed Tiger Capital Ltd never appeared on behalf of the authority or Attorney General’s offic­e in any extradition matters.

About Tiger Capital Ltd

Checks by the Sunday Express with the Ministry of Legal Affairs’ Company Registry last Friday, showed Tiger Capital Ltd was registered on November 23, 2004, by attorney Rudyard Davidson.

It was also stamped by the Registrar General’s Office on the same day and carries the company number T4365 (95) and is listed as a private company. Service­s provided by the company are not listed.

On the November 22, 2004, application form, the company names financial services consultant Kenny Soodhoo and businesswoman Monique Pillai as directors.

Under “Change of Directors”, on November 20, 2013, proprietor Winston Samuel Russell of Caledonia Road, Lange Park, Chaguanas, was appointed a director. On that same date, Pillai ceased “to hold office as director”. As of November 5, 2014, Soodhoo and Russell remained directors.

On December 9, 2014, contractor Clement Nazim Ali, of Curepe, was appointed director. That same day, Russell “ceased to hold office”. Soodhoo was then appointed secretary.

None of the past or present directors has a legal background.

Efforts to contact all past and present directors were unsuccessful, as their phones were not in service.

When the Sunday Express visi­ted the 16B McInroy Street, Curepe, address of Tiger Capital Ltd yesterday, there was an empty plot of land. Checks with residents in the area revealed that no one had ever heard of the business Tiger Capital Ltd being located at the given address.

No comment from head of Central Authority and former attorney general Contacted for a comment last Friday afternoon, head of the Central Authority Netram Kowlessa­r was asked by the Sunday Express who recommended Tiger Capital Ltd to the authority? What were their qualifications and where the company operated.

Kowlessar said, “Ma’am, I’m sorry, I would not be able to comment on that.”

The Sunday Express continued its questioning and asked Kowlessar whether he was aware of this company. Kowlessar said yes.

Has Tiger Capital Ltd ever been retained by the Central Authority and what mutual assistance did the company give the Central Authority? the Sunday Express asked.

He said, “Firstly, I must let you know Central Authority’s work with respect to mutual assistanc­e is covered in a certain level of confidentiality and this is embedded in the treaty of the State between states we operate with.

“So once there is something involving a mutual legal assistance request as such, the base of that level is a level of confidentiality which must be exercised. In these matters regarding documents and disclosures, we are prohibited from disclosing anything,” Kowlessar said.

The Sunday Express persisted in its questioning, asking Kowlessar to justify the $1.7 million fee paid to Tiger Capital and what was the expertise of the company, but he refused to answer.

Asked why the authority would seek advice on mutual assistance matters from a contractor, Kowlessar said nothing.

Told that information received stated that he and then-attorney general Anand Ramlogan certified the invoice brought by Tiger Capital Ltd, Kowlessar said, “By confirming or denying any of the questions, on any information with mutual assistance, I cannot comment. Kindly respect what I do and what I can say and cannot say.”

Ramlogan was also contacted last Friday afternoo­n and asked whether he was familiar with Tiger Capital Ltd.

He said, “I can’t remember, but go ahead.”

Asked how the company was chosen, Ramlogan asked that questions be e-mailed to him.

The Sunday Express complied and e-mailed the following questions at 2.22 p.m. last Friday:

1. Are you familiar with the company Tiger Capital Ltd?

2. Are you familiar with the directors of Tiger Capital Ltd?

3. How was this firm selected to do work for the Office of the Attorney General and, by extension, the Central Authority during your tenure?

4. What exactly did this firm do while retained by the Central Authority to receive a $1,750,00 payment?

5. Does this firm have any legal experience? If so, kindly list the matters they have been involved in.

Ramlogan responded at 12.53 p.m. yesterda­y: “As you are aware, the work of the central authority is extremely sensitive and confidentia­l as it involves work with internationa­l law enforcemen­t agencies and foreign government­s on complex cross-border criminal investigation­s.

“Relevant expertise is contracted as and when necessary in consultation with other agencies in accordance with the established practice and procedure. The required expertise may vary with the facts, issues and subject matter of the relevant case and is hence not necessarily limited to legal expertise.

“It would not be proper for me to comment on the work of the authority and I do not wish to prejudice any ongoing investigations. That is the prerogative of the Attorney General and the Head of the Central Authority.”

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: zuluwarrior on March 22, 2015, 11:40:51 AM
This PP government prove everything they touch turn to shit I would not believe any report from google they have or bring to the public at this .

The truth would come out in the mean time I would wait on the report the Integrity commission ask google for .
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Socapro on March 22, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
If this current government gets another 5 years we will end up just like Guyana not just financially and economically but also race relations wise.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: weary1969 on March 22, 2015, 03:07:46 PM
If this current government gets another 5 years we will end up just like Guyana not just financially and economically but also race relations wise.

CO-SIGN to the nth power.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on March 25, 2015, 01:51:51 AM
PROBE ANAND’S LEGAL BRIEFS
Ramlogan: False and totally baseless
By Denyse Renne (Express).


The Police Service and Inte­grity Commission are being called on to launch an investigation into the Office of the Attorney General, which has spent millions on the retention of attorneys in private practice since 2010.

Former attorneys general (AGs) John Jeremie SC and Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj SC hosted a joint media brief­ing at the Radisson Hotel, Wrightson Road, Port of Spain, yesterday morning, expressing concern over the spending of legal fees and calling for a forensic probe to take place.

Asked whether the police should also investigate whe­ther “kick-backs” were paid, Maharaj said, “If during the investigations, the police can find that some of the monies paid to some lawyers, or some of the money paid was given back, too, or used as conditions, that is a serious offence.

“If it is prima facie...if this sum is not reasonable, I think the public is entitled to know and would want to be satisfied”, he said.

Jeremie said as a former AG, he became distressed at the $300 milli­on-plus legal bill the AG’s office has raked in for the past four years under then AG Anand Ramlogan.

Jeremie referenced a state ment made by Ramlo­gan on September 22, 2010, at the opening of the law term, in which Ramlogan told the media, “I don’t know if Dr Rowley expects me to hire my enemies. What am I to do, hire people who are not my friends? I have a lot of friends in the legal profession and I

tend to rely on them for inde­pen­dent, impartial, reliable and compe­tent legal advice, and I make no apologies for that.”

Ramlogan had made the statement after concerns were raised by Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley that he was only retaining his friends to represent the State in court matters and exorbitant monies in legal briefs were being paid.

Jeremie said the ability of the AG to spend monies freely “is virtually unchecked since there is no legislation in place to monitor spending.

“No one can tell him which lawyer to select to do what,” Jeremie said.

Describing the operations and expenditure of the Office of the AG under Ramlogan as being nothing short of “scandalous, disrespectful and damaging to the dispensation of justice in our nation”, Jere­mie said the multimillion-dollar legal bill racked up by the State “is devoid of legal pru­dence and fiscal intelligence”.

Adding he received no joy as a former AG to be addressing such a matter, he said as a nation of laws founded on the principles set forth in the Constitution, “our Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

“The powers to actually spend money without oversight...with this great power comes great responsibility, great discipline, great discretion and great integrity.

“The trust given to the AG by our legislative arrangements must not be abused and cannot be seen to be abused.”

Jeremie said from the doc­umentation which he has seen, it appears vast sums of taxpayers’ money were “spent for work that appears not to have been real work at all, or work paid for at a level that is not commensurate with real economic market rates. Even when allowances are made, it appears that State work seems to be better numerated than private sector work”.

Adding when he demitted office in 2010, his budget for attorneys in private practice being retained by the State never reached any exorbi­tant figure, Jeremie said in 2008, his budget was $37 million and $40 million in 2009.

Comparing the figures with that under the tenure of Ram­logan, Jeremie said in 2010, the fees moved from $36 million to over $78 million.

“In 2012, the $78 million jumped again to $104 million. Where I had been paying roughly $36 million a year for several years, by 2015, that figure had increased from $104 million to $130 million,” Jeremie said.

“Not only were the fees payable to attorneys increa­sing at an alarming rate, but the percentage of fees as against the total budget allocation increased overnight in 2010, from 25 to 40 per cent in 2011,” he said.

Jeremie also questioned the legal work done by seve­ral of the attorneys and the fees charged.

He said in most cases, the court matters and probe fees were paid and nothing happened.

“Fees were charged and paid for the investigation into Scarborough General Hospital and it has not seen the light of day. Investigations into the Housing Development Corpora­tion (HDC), a report was made which merely repeated the findings of the Uff commission of enquiry,” Jeremie said.

Jeremie also said he was concerned about simple mat-ters being briefed by the State.

Using the matter involving advice being given on the exemption of taxes on the purchase of vehicles and reported fees of Tiger Capital Ltd, Jeremie said there can be no justification for such expense.

“At times, it is confusing; the money is exposing regular patterns of expenditure, regrettably though, it disclo­ses a prima facie evidence of financial impropriety,” Jeremie added.

Maharaj endorsed the statements made by Jeremie and described the Office of the AG as an important one.

“The holder of this office performs an important constitutional function and is also the guardian of the public interest

“When there were serious allega­tions and no action is taken by the Prime Minister to address the wrongs, the office and Govern­ment are brought into disrepute,” Maharaj said.

‘Recover funds from Tiger Capital’

On the issue of Tiger Capital Ltd, the mystery firm which received $1.75 million for mutual legal assistance from the Central Authority, which is under the purview of the Office of the AG, Jeremie said the comments given by Ramlogan with respect to the retainer of Tiger Capital Ltd “suggests that the company might have been hired to provide non-legal services”.

“If that is the case, then two things ought to have been followed. Firstly, the retainer of the company must have required permission in advance of the Central Tenders Board. If no permission was granted, the retainer would be illegal and funds paid under it should be recoverable”, Jeremie said.

Adding any information sought in respect of services provided by Tiger Capital Ltd (a non-legal firm) “would not be entitled to the benefit of legal client/attorney privilege”, Jeremie said the mutual legal assistance in the Criminal Matters Act does not clothe the work of the Central Authority with client/attorney privilege.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: zuluwarrior on March 28, 2015, 01:32:10 PM
I feel the PM give west that job so that he would not be a witness for Dr Rowley  ,she also should  be charged for witness tampering . That lady cannot be trusted
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Bakes on March 28, 2015, 05:21:51 PM
I feel the PM give west that job so that he would not be a witness for Dr Rowley  ,she also should  be charged for witness tampering . That lady cannot be trusted

The job could not have, and will not prevented West from being a witness for Rowley.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on May 05, 2015, 01:59:54 AM
JACK LYING ON ME
By JADA LOUTOO (Newsday).
Tuesday, May 5 2015


FORMER Attorney General Anand Ramlogan has accused his former Cabinet colleague Jack Warner of fabricating lies against him to defend defamatory statements of the Independent Liberal Party (ILP) political leader at a political meeting at Endeavour, Chaguanas, two years ago.

Ramlogan has filed a defamation claim against Warner for statements allegedly made on the hustings during the ILP’s local government election campaign. At the meeting held on October 19, 2013, Warner alleged that the then AG was the owner of over 51 properties, “some of them in his brother’s name.”

Warner also claimed Ramlogan gave permission for British solicitor Ackbar Ali to take care of his business. The ILP’s leader has admitted he made the statements after they were told to him by Ramlogan at a meeting of state boards at the Diplomatic Centre, chaired by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, one year earlier.

According to Warner, Ramlogan informed the prime minister of the properties he acquired in response to a question she asked. Ramlogan has denied having any conversation with his former Cabinet colleague, saying he did not trust Warner to discuss his personal affairs with him.

Testifying at the trial currently underway in the Port-of-Spain Civil Court, before Justice Robin Mohammed, Ramlogan insisted Warner’s claim that he told him he was the owner of 51 properties was “completely false” and a “fabrication.”

“I have no reason to lie. No such conversation had taken place,” Ramlogan insisted. Pressed again by Warner’s attorney Keith Scotland about the alleged conversation on the ownership of the properties, the former attorney general flippantly said he wished he was the owner of 51 properties. “Then I would not be here,” he said. Ramlogan said as Cabinet colleagues, he and Warner would only speak of matters relating to the government or politics as they did not share a close relationship.

Ramlogan, in response to questions by Scotland, admitted that while Warner did not expressly accuse him of corruption or used the words “ill gotten means,” the meaning of what was said on the platform drew that inescapable conclusion.

He said his private law practice, prior to him taking up office as attorney general in 2010, was thriving financially. He said he did own substantial properties and rightly so but Warner’s claims were made in malice and were untrue.

During his cross-examination of the former AG, Scotland went through every paragraph of his witness statement, and asserted that his client made no direct reference to Ramlogan being corrupt and the two paragraphs complained of were taken out of a larger address as the leader of a political party, who also spoke of national and political issues.

Warner is using the principles of truth, fair comment and absolute privilege to defend the statements he made on the hustings, saying he was justified in doing so as he sought to highlight the issue. Scotland also unsuccessfully attempted to refer to Ramlogan’s resignation from Government in February, saying it went to character evidence.

But lead counsel for Ramlogan, Avory Sinanan, SC, argued that his client’s resignation had no relevance to what occurred in October 2013, when it is alleged Warner made defamatory statements during an ILP political meeting at Endeavour, Chaguanas.

Ramlogan resigned after being accused of witness tampering in a defamation lawsuit he filed against Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley. Police Complaints’ Authority director David West has alleged Ramlogan called him and sought to have him withdraw the witness statement he filed in Rowley’s defence. An investigation has since been launched by the Acting Commissioner of Police.

Sinanan reminded the court that the investigation was ongoing and Warner’s defence team could not use the allegations, which are yet to be proven, to impugn Ramlogan’s character.

Sinanan’s objection was upheld.

Earlier, in his opening address, Ramlogan’s attorney said the onus was on Warner to establish the truth of the allegations he made on the platform.

“What is set out in his defence is a far cry from what was said on the platform,” Sinanan said, adding that it was disingenuous for Warner to say he relied on what Ramlogan told him to justify what he said at the political meeting in Endeavour. “We have denied having any conversation with the defendant,” Sinanan said. He said the claim by the ILP leader was his machination drafted to enhance his political image and that of his party.

“The statements were distorted and entirely false,” he said. Sinanan contended that Warner could not use statements he alleged were told to him by Ramlogan to prove his case, but needed direct corroborating evidence.

He said the court had to pronounce on the bonafides of Warner’s defence but only if he provided credible evidence. It is the duty of the court to determine if the statements were defamatory or if any of his defences will exonerate him from culpability.

“The more serious the allegations the more cogent the evidence you have to bring to prove your statements,” Sinanan said. The trial continues today when Warner will testify after his attorney delivers his opening address. Also representing Ramlogan are Kelvin Ramkissoon, Gerald Ramdeen and Varun Debideen while Asha Watkins-Montserrin and Jacqueline Chang appear for Warner.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on May 06, 2015, 01:59:19 AM
I did not trust Warner with my personal info
By Derek Achong (Guardian)


Ramlogan at defamation lawsuit:

Former attorney general Anand Ramlogan testified in court yesterday about his real estate investments, saying he bought four separate properties all funded from his private practice and all were acquired before he accepted the role as a government minister in May 2010.

Ramlogan was giving evidence in support of a defamation lawsuit he brought against his one-time Cabinet colleague Jack Warner who claimed at a public meeting that former attorney general acquired 51 properties during his tenure.

In his lengthy testimony which spanned more than five hours, Ramlogan repeatedly stated that Warner’s claims were not true.

“That is completely false I have no reason to lie. If I did I would not be here,” Ramlogan said.

Throughout the hearing before Justice Robin Mohammed, at the Hall of Justice, Port-of-Spain. Ramlogan refrained from making eye contact with Warner who was seated at the opposite end of the courtroom.

Warner resigned in April 2013 over allegations of bribery related to his role as then vice-president of Fifa. Warner went on to form a political party, the Independent Liberal Party (ILP), and retained his Chaguanas West seat in a by-election.

Ramlogan resigned in February after claims of witness tampering were made by director of the Police Complaints Authority David West. Police are still investigating that matter.

As he sought to prove Warner’s claims, which were made at a ILP public meeting in 2013 had a factual basis, his lawyer Keith Scotland alleged that Warner had obtained the information through private conversations with Ramlogan.

Ramlogan categorically denied that as he said: “We would discuss matters related to the Government and the political party. I cannot say I trusted Warner enough to discuss my personal affairs with him. That kind of relationship did not exist.”

While he admitted his client’s allegations painted Ramlogan in a negative light, Scotland claimed Warner was justified as it was made while he was commenting on issues of national importance as the leader of a “major” political party.

“I would not describe it like as that,” Ramlogan said as he joked about the size of the ILP’s support base.

Moving away from the size of Ramlogan’s alleged property portfolio described by Warner, Scotland quizzed Ramlogan on his ability to purchase the four properties which he admitted he owned in the lawsuit.

“You have acknowledged you own some substantial properties. Do you agree that you can’t afford to buy all of them on a minister’s salary?” Scotland asked.

Ramlogan said: “Collectively no but individually yes.” He then claimed that all the properties he owned were purchased before his stint as AG and using money he earned from his private legal practice.

Scotland drew an objection from Ramlogan’s legal team as he attempted to question him on allegations of witness tampering.

“That is totally irrelevant. What occurred after October 2013 has no bearing in this case. He is seeking to impugn the reputation of this man,” Senior Counsel Avory Sinanan quipped.

Justice Mohammed agreed as he barred Scotland from touching on the topic again.

Warner was expected to testify after Ramlogan but he had to leave the hearing early to attend the funeral of ILP’s Tobago regional co-ordinator Lionel Coker, who died last week.

Ramlogan is also being represented by Kelvin Ramkisson, Gerald Ramdeen and Varun Debideen.

The trial continues this morning.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on May 06, 2015, 02:06:21 AM
Jack fights for ‘not’
By JADA LOUTOO
Wednesday, May 6 2015


INDEPENDENT Liberal Party (ILP) political leader Jack Warner did not defame former attorney general Anand Ramlogan when he spoke of the latter’s property investments and relationship with a British solicitor. Warner was justified when he shared the information on a political platform.

Warner is contending that when he made the comments in October 2013, it was not with the intention to harass his former Cabinet colleague, but was fair comment made in good faith without malice.

Although this is Warner’s defence on paper, he was unable to be cross-examined by Ramlogan’s lead counsel Avory Sinanan SC, yesterday. Warner spent less than five minutes after being called to the witness box; thanked presiding judge Robin Mohammed for granting him permission to attend the funeral of ILP Tobago coordinator Lionel Coker on Monday, swore on the Bible to tell the truth and said he wanted to include the word “not,” which had been omitted in paragraph 22 of his witness statement, to which Sinanan objected.

Ramlogan’s lead counsel said Warner could not now include that word and should have filed a supplemental witness statement. The former government minister sat outside the courtroom in the Port-of-Spain High Court, as attorneys for both sides argued for and against Warner being allowed to include the word “not.”

Mohammed eventually ruled that allowing Warner to make the correction would do no damage to Ramlogan’s case. “I do not think it is so grave that it cannot be corrected on cross examination,” Mohammed said, before adjourning the matter to May 26.

Warner’s attorney Keith Scotland, in his opening address, said his client would prove that he was justified when he claimed Ramlogan was the owner of 51 properties in TT and spoke of the former AG’s relationship with British solicitor Ackbar Ali on October 19, 2013, while addressing supporters at a meeting at Endeavor, Chaguanas, in the run-up to the Local Government Elections.

Scotland told the judge he must link the words complained of to the wider picture as it was only two paragraphs of an 11-page speech. Warner is using the principles of justification, fair comment and qualified privilege to defend the statements he made on the hustings, saying it was what was told to him by Ramlogan during conversations they had on two occasions.

According to Scotland, it was fair comment as there was no malice intended by the ILP leader and the words were uttered in honesty as he expressed his opinions on matters of public interest.

To further bolster his client’s defence that the words spoken were not defamatory, Scotland insisted it was covered by qualified privilege since it was said days before one of the more significant elections in TT. The former attorney general is claiming damages and exemplary damages. He is represented by Sinanan, Kelvin Ramkissoon, Gerald Ramdeen and Varun Debideen while Asha Watkins-Montserrin and Jacqueline Chang also appear for Warner.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on May 15, 2015, 02:08:31 AM
EMAILS ARE FAKE
By CAROL MATROO
Friday, May 15 2015

 
Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar was adamant yesterday: the emails revealed to the Parliament in May 2013 by Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley, alleging that she and other Ministers including then Attorney General Anand Ramlogan had exchanges conspiring, among other things, to murder a journalist, were fake.

Therefore, Rowley was not off the hook for his actions.

And she also felt vindicated because the statement by Deputy Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Joan Honore-Paul on Wednesday proved that a letter she received from the United States Justice Department pointing this out was authentic.

“I am very happy and feel vindicated by the statements made by the deputy DPP because she has confirmed that the document that appeared in the media from the US Justice Department is, in fact, an authentic document, and that document has pointed to the fact that the emails were fake. So I feel vindicated,” she said.

Honore-Paul had said in her statement Wednesday evening that police investigations had not yet resulted in any finding whether, through the Mutual Legal Assistance channels or otherwise, that the emails were or were not sent. She said to give the impression that there was some finality in this regard was misleading, particularly any exoneration of Persad- Bissessar and Ramlogan.

But the Prime Minister said yesterday afternoon,“She (Honore-Paul) does not ever say the letter does not exist. She is saying the letter is bonafide.” Persad-Bissessar spoke to the media after formally opening the Paramin RC Primary School, Maraval.

The Prime Minister said the Parliament had its job to do and as a parliamentarian, she was doing hers. She said while the police, the DPP and the Integrity Commission had their jobs to do, and they should continue so to do, she urged the police to try to complete their investigation and make the results known as soon as possible.

Making reference to the matter involving former Works Minister Sadiq Baksh in which cocaine was allegedly planted in his water tanks, Persad-Bissessar said that investigation was not yet completed.

“I got evidence which showed that the emails were fake and therefore it was my duty as a citizen of this land to provide that evidence in the place where those allegations were made, and that is in the Parliament. I feel vindicated by the DPP’s letter,” the Prime Minister said.

Persad-Bissessar said she had no problem with the investigation, and was convinced there was sufficient evidence which showed the emails were fake.

“You come to a Parliament 95 times,” the Prime Minister said. “In his contribution the Opposition Leader talked about emails, emails. Well, now 100 percent we know from evidence from third parties, not from me or Mr (Garvin) Nicholas or Dr (Tim) Gopeesingh, you know the emails are fake from evidence we brought forward into the public domain, they can continue their investigation.”

The Prime Minister added, “I have always said from the very start, I continue to say that the emails were fake. The letter from the DPP or the press release confirms that the emails were fake, so what more could I need,” she said.

Responding to Honore-Paul’s concern about how correspondence from the United States Justice Department sent to the police investigative team through the Central Authority found its way into the public domain, Persad-Bissessar said she was assured that the police and the DPP would continue to investigate the matter.

“It was a document that was within the office of the DPP,” she pointed out. “It was with the investigating police in the matter, so the effect of the letter was to raise concerns about how it became part of the public domain. The US Justice Department document by words of the DPP has confirmed that it is an authentic document from them and again the question is how did the truth come into the public domain.”

The Prime Minister said she believed the evidence they already had coming from the Supreme Court in California, IT experts, court documents from the Integrity Commission and the letter from the US Justice Department, totally showed evidence the emails were fake, which was the main issue. “Were they genuine or were they not genuine. All the evidence points very clearly they were fake,” she said.

As for Rowley’s call, in a pre-action protocol letter, for her to apologise for comments she posted on Facebook, Persad-Bissessar said she had referred the matter to her lawyers.

“It is not about asking for an apology based on the DPP’s statement, so I’ll pass that to my lawyers. I think that’s another distraction to take us away from the fact and let us stay focussed,” she said.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on July 31, 2015, 01:53:28 AM
Jack to pay Anand $.9m.
By Rickie Ramdass (Express).


Blows for Jack

CORRUPTION-accused politician Jack Warner has been ordered to pay former attorney general Anand Ramlogan close to $1 million in damages after a High Court judge yesterday ruled against him in a lawsuit filed by Ramlogan for defamation of character.

Justice Robin Mohammed made the ruling at the Hall of Justice in Port of Spain saying Warner could provide no proof to back up the allegations made during an Independent Liberal Party (ILP) meeting in October 2013.

The lawsuit revolved around allegations that Ramlogan was the owner of more than 51 properties which he could not have acquired based on his salary as Attorney General.

In his 57-page ruling, Justice Mohammed said it was clear to the court Warner made the allegations in the midst of the local government election with the intention of gaining a political advantage over Ramlogan and the Government.

“Such objective of political gain ought not to have been pursued at the costs of lowering the claimant's reputation in the estimation of right-thinking members of the public, discrediting the claimant in his Office of the Attorney General of Trinidad and Tobago and exposing the claimant and his family to ridicule and contempt, particularly in circumstances where the defendant showed no evidence or belief in the truth of the defamatory statements,” said the judge.

Ramlogan was awarded $600,000 in general damages inclusive of aggravated damages, $200,000 in exemplary damages and an additional $94,000 in prescribed costs—a total of $894,000.

Cost is to be assessed by the Registrar of the Supreme Court as it relates to an application made by Warner during the trial to amend his witness statement.

Warner to appeal

However, Ramlogan will not immediately be awarded the money as the court ruled that there is to be a 28-day stay of the execution of the order given that Warner, through his attorneys, signalled his intention to appeal the order.

Following the judgment, Ramlogan told reporters he felt vindicated by the judge's decision.

“Mr Warner had made some very outrageous and malicious accusations against me that I was the owner of over 51 properties and with a hint of corruption. I do not own anything near that and of course I was very outraged by his statements and the fact that he could have gone so far to make it on a political platform in the height of an election campaign,” said Ramlogan.

He said Warner, who was not present during the hearing, has made a trademark of himself in politics by making malicious and scandalous accusations against individuals without any evidence to back up his claims.

“I see he is doing the same thing with the honourable Prime Minister now and when the time comes to produce the evidence to back it up, what he does is cry wolf and run away. His day will come in judgment, not just in my matter, but in many others against who he has made the most scandalous accusations without a shred of evidence and today is just one of many judgments to come against him,” he said.

Ramlogan further added that if Warner does in fact appeal the judge's decision, he (Ramlogan) will cross appeal with the argument that the amount awarded to him should have been greater.

He said if Warner intends to appeal the matter he should also pay the sum ordered by Justice Mohammed into the court “given the limited duration of time he might have left in Trinidad and Tobago.”

Good friends for 20 years

During the trial, Warner testified that from as early as 2010 he had knowledge of Ramlogan being involved in wrongdoing by using his office for personal gain. Despite this, Warner said he never brought the information into the public domain given that both of them were Cabinet colleagues.

In his defence, Warner testified that it was Ramlogan himself who provided him with the information of the properties he owned and that he was simply repeating on the political platform what was said to him by Ramlogan while they were in Government together in 2010 and 2012.

He had further pointed out that he and Ramlogan were “good friends” for the past 20 years and whatever was said by him against Ramlogan during political campaigns in 2013 was strictly politics and was not meant to be an attack on Ramlogan's character or reputation.

Ramlogan denies owning the properties

Ramlogan however, denied being the owner of the properties and testified that even though he and Warner were Cabinet colleagues and would have discussed issues of national importance, he never trusted Warner to confide in him concerning his personal business.

Ramlogan had contended that the statements made by Warner generated harsh comments from members of society, some of which branded him “as corrupt and a thief”.

He said the statements were often a topic of discussion in his family, among professionals and even among distinguished jurists regionally with whom he had to interact in his capacity as Attorney General. He had further expressed his feelings of distress and embarrassment which were caused to him in the midst of the defamatory words which often in conversations called on him to defend his name.

Representing Ramlogan in the lawsuit were attorneys Avory Sinanan, SC, Gerald Ramdeen, Kelvin Ramkissoon and Varun Dabideen, while Keith Scotland, Asha Watkins-Montserin and Jacqueline Chang appeared for Warner.

Calls to Warner's cellphone for comment on the court's ruling yesterday evening were unsuccessful as all calls went unanswered.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: Flex on May 04, 2019, 05:04:46 AM
Ramlogan, Ramdeen charged after 3 days in custody.
By Derek Achong (Guardian).


Af­ter spend­ing close to three days in cus­tody, for­mer at­tor­ney gen­er­al Anand Ram­lo­gan, SC and UNC Sen­a­tor Ger­ald Ramdeen were last night charged over their al­leged roles in a mul­ti-mil­lion le­gal fee kick­back con­spir­a­cy.

Sources close to the in­ves­ti­ga­tion said Ram­lo­gan and Ramdeen were charged with con­spir­ing to en­gage in mon­ey laun­der­ing, cor­rup­tion and mis­be­hav­iour in pub­lic of­fice. Sim­i­lar charges were laid against the State’s co­op­er­at­ing wit­ness British Queen’s Coun­sel Vin­cent Nel­son on Wednes­day. Nel­son has signed a plea agree­ment with the State to tes­ti­fy against Ram­lo­gan and Ramdeen.

De­tec­tives as­signed to the An­ti-Cor­rup­tion In­ves­ti­ga­tion Bu­reau (ACIB) were hop­ing to com­plete their in­ves­ti­ga­tion on Thurs­day night to al­low both men to ap­pear in court to an­swer the charges yes­ter­day morn­ing. How­ev­er, their plans were de­railed af­ter both Ram­lo­gan and Ramdeen com­plained of feel­ing un­well at dif­fer­ent times be­tween Thurs­day night and yes­ter­day morn­ing and had to be tak­en sep­a­rate­ly to the Port-of-Spain Gen­er­al Hos­pi­tal for treat­ment.

The change of plans meant that by the time the men were of­fi­cial­ly charged late last night, they would have had to spend the week­end in po­lice cus­tody un­til they could ap­pear be­fore a mag­is­trate on Mon­day morn­ing.

Guardian Me­dia un­der­stands that the duo’s le­gal team was ex­pect­ed to ask se­nior of­fi­cers with­in the unit if their clients could be grant­ed sta­tion bail, which would al­low them to be re­leased be­fore Mon­day’s hear­ing.

Sta­tion bail is usu­al­ly grant­ed to per­sons charged with non-vi­o­lent crimes dur­ing week­ends. It is al­lowed at the dis­cre­tion of the po­lice and is ap­proved by a Jus­tice of the Peace.

While the po­lice in­ves­ti­ga­tion in­to the con­spir­a­cy start­ed al­most three years ago, it reached a crit­i­cal stage on Wednes­day morn­ing af­ter in­ves­ti­ga­tors ex­e­cut­ed an ar­rest war­rant for Ram­lo­gan at the Pi­ar­co In­ter­na­tion­al Air­port around 4.15 am. Ram­lo­gan was about to board a flight to Mi­a­mi to con­nect to the British Vir­gin Is­lands (BVI), where he was ex­pect­ed to rep­re­sent the Speak­er of BVI’s House As­sem­bly Ju­lian Wilcox. Ramdeen sur­ren­dered to in­ves­ti­ga­tors two hours lat­er.

On Wednes­day evening, po­lice ex­e­cut­ed search war­rants at the duo’s homes in south Trinidad and at Ramdeen’s of­fice at Cor­ne­lio Street, Wood­brook. Dur­ing the search­es, which last­ed well in­to the night, in­ves­ti­ga­tors re­port­ed­ly seized sev­er­al elec­tron­ic de­vices and doc­u­ments.

De­tec­tives at­tempt­ed to in­ter­view both men on Thurs­day evening but had to cut Ram­lo­gan’s in­ter­view short af­ter he com­plained of feel­ing un­well and had to be tak­en for treat­ment. Ram­lo­gan’s in­ter­view re­sumed around mid­day yes­ter­day and was com­plet­ed sev­er­al hours lat­er.

Ramdeen’s in­ter­view was re­port­ed­ly com­plet­ed on Thurs­day but he com­plained of feel­ing un­well while Ram­lo­gan was be­ing in­ter­viewed. Guardian Me­dia un­der­stands that doc­tors at the Port-of-Spain Gen­er­al Hos­pi­tal di­ag­nosed that he was suf­fer­ing from de­hy­dra­tion and kept him for sev­er­al hours as they ad­min­is­tered in­tra­venous flu­ids and Panadol.

Around 5 pm, Ramdeen was cleared by doc­tors and tak­en back in­to po­lice cus­tody. Ramdeen’s lawyers al­so threat­ened to file a habeas cor­pus writ chal­leng­ing his de­ten­tion for 48 hours with­out be­ing charged yes­ter­day morn­ing but did not go through with it af­ter he was hos­pi­talised.

Sources said short­ly af­ter 6 pm in­ves­ti­ga­tors put the fin­ish­ing touch­es on the file and sought ad­vice from Di­rec­tor of Pub­lic Pros­e­cu­tions (DPP) Roger Gas­pard, SC, who kept his of­fice open in an­tic­i­pa­tion of a late vis­it.

About the In­ves­ti­ga­tion

The in­ves­ti­ga­tion cen­tres around al­most $1 bil­lion in le­gal fees which was paid to pri­vate le­gal prac­ti­tion­ers rep­re­sent­ing the state and state com­pa­nies in le­gal pro­ceed­ings dur­ing Ram­lo­gan’s tenure be­tween 2010 and 2015.

The law­suits in­clud­ed sev­er­al over al­leged cor­rup­tion which oc­curred un­der the pre­vi­ous Patrick Man­ning regime.

It is al­leged that a per­cent­age of the fees, which were paid through the Of­fice of the At­tor­ney Gen­er­al to the lawyers, was al­leged­ly giv­en back to Ram­lo­gan.

On Thurs­day, British Queen’s Coun­sel Vin­cent Nel­son, who has Ja­maican roots, ap­peared in court to an­swer three con­spir­a­cy charges over his role. Nel­son is ac­cused of con­spir­ing with Ram­lo­gan and Ramdeen to re­ceive, con­ceal and trans­fer crim­i­nal prop­er­ty, name­ly the re­wards giv­en to Ram­lo­gan by Nel­son for be­ing ap­point­ed to rep­re­sent the State in sev­er­al cas­es; of con­spir­ing with them to cor­rupt­ly give Ram­lo­gan a per­cent­age of the funds and of con­spir­ing with them to make Ram­lo­gan mis­be­have in pub­lic of­fice by re­ceiv­ing the funds.

Nel­son, who ben­e­fit­ed from over $20 mil­lion in le­gal briefs, has signed a plea bar­gain agree­ment, un­der which he is ex­pect­ed to tes­ti­fy against the duo in ex­change for im­mu­ni­ty or a re­duced sen­tence. He has been re­leased on $100,000 bail and al­lowed to leave the coun­try for med­ical treat­ment. His lawyers al­so claimed that his safe­ty would be at risk.

Nel­son is sched­uled to re­turn to Trinidad lat­er this month or ear­ly next month for his plea as­sess­ment hear­ing be­fore a High Court Judge.

Guardian Me­dia un­der­stands that the probe may ex­tend to oth­er lawyers, both lo­cal and in­ter­na­tion­al, who would have re­ceived State briefs un­der Ram­lo­gan’s tenure.

Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: maxg on December 31, 2019, 11:02:25 PM
So what was the final conclusion to the above story ? Swept under the rug ? Drinks all around ? What ?
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 01, 2020, 08:37:11 AM
So what was the final conclusion to the above story ? Swept under the rug ? Drinks all around ? What ?

Probably busy trying to message Carlos Ghosn. Then again, it's T&T: no need to scurry away under cover of day or night.
Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: maxg on January 02, 2020, 12:37:44 AM
So what was the final conclusion to the above story ? Swept under the rug ? Drinks all around ? What ?

Probably busy trying to message Carlos Ghosn. Then again, it's T&T: no need to scurry away under cover of day or night.
Ah feeling ah feeling, everything just working out...there came the pastor with 29 Million, and the barber with ONLY 1. Everybody have a buddy they does straighten out and legally pass the dunzei. Al Capone is boo to we Leaders. Ah still wondering where the money in the backseat of the car come and gone, not a word of retribution or condonation ...all is forgotten, like ah beats on the field if yuh team lorse..them players got game...small man killing each other in frustration and ignorance.

Jack agrees to pay Anand.
By Jada Loutoo (Newsday).


FORMER Independent Liberal Party (ILP) leader Jack Warner has agreed to pay a portion of the sum he was ordered to pay to compensate former attorney general Anand Ramlogan in 2015.

Warner also agreed to withdraw his appeal of Justice Robin Mohammed’s ruling.

Hearing of the appeal came up before Justices Allan Mendonca, Alice Yorke-Soo Hon, and Prakash Moosai yesterday and attorneys for both men said they had entered into a consent order.

As part of the compromise, Ramlogan agreed to waive part of the judgment sum, which had amounted to close to $900,000. This brought an end to the lawsuit.

In his ruling, Mohammed held that Warner had defamed his former cabinet colleague in a speech in October 2013.

Speaking on an ILP platform in the run-up to the local government elections, Warner claimed Ramlogan owned 51 properties bought by corrupt means during his tenure as AG.

Warner was ordered to pay $600,000 in general and aggravated damages and $200,000 in exemplary damages. The costs of the defamation claim were quantified at $94,000.

Warner was represented by Asha Watkins-Monteserin. Ganesh Saroop appeared for Ramlogan.


Title: Re: Attorney General Anand Ramlogan Thread
Post by: maxg on July 26, 2020, 12:18:12 PM
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/anand-ramdeen-case-pushed-to-april-28-6.2.1028471.24b59505aa