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UM.......lol
just watch n enjoy..... or not
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhBtdQvDJLQy55M05q (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhBtdQvDJLQy55M05q)
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UM.......lol
just watch n enjoy..... or not
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhBtdQvDJLQy55M05q (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhBtdQvDJLQy55M05q)
Not only a cut ass on facebook but on the world wide web :rotfl: Well done Uncle
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I like the discipline... but that is incredibly reckless.
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The only thing is that the nephew looks like he physically big enough to fight back.
You never know with these kids these days....
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The only thing is that the nephew looks like he physically big enough to fight back.
You never know with these kids these days....
Yeh , but that kid only big, yuh could tell he eh able wid he uncle, and by his mannerism you could tell that he eh no older than 15. big baby dat! :rotfl: :rotfl:
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The only thing is that the nephew looks like he physically big enough to fight back.
You never know with these kids these days....
Yeh , but that kid only big, yuh could tell he eh able wid he uncle, and by his mannerism you could tell that he eh no older than 15. big baby dat! :rotfl: :rotfl:
Agreed... I like the deference dat youthman showing, because all talk ah blows aside he coulda guff up same way and fight back. But he eh really have it in him. Ah rell like uncle attitude too "dat is not this family, we not in dat... TELL DEM!" lol
But what he doing dey is assault on a chile and he kinda dotish fuh putting it on camera.
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Allyuh could be real dumb sometimes...if a child that age collecting licks then somebody eh do their job from since he small. No amount of guff up say otherwise.
And allyuh does cuss your children like that? Steups. I all for dropping licks on dem when neccessary, but Uncle better pray the youth doh hold a grudge that the WHOLE WORLD see him get shamed and come back and empty a clip in his face.
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Allyuh could be real dumb sometimes...if a child that age collecting licks then somebody eh do their job from since he small. No amount of guff up say otherwise.
Before yuh call people "dumb" yuh might want straighten out yuh sentences in English... because ^^^ this right here eh really making a whole lot of sense.
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It eh making no sense eh? How so?
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oh lorrse,,,ah wonder if ah go hadda aks dihno to bring out he flow chart today ;D
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Dat wasn't no set ah lics! His thick arse probably didn't feel dat! Now if he wanted tuh make it interesting he would have wupped his bare back with a wet towel. Uncle lucky his damn pants didn't fall off!
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It eh making no sense eh? How so?
1. Allyuh could be real dumb sometimes...
I don't feel personally offended... but since I didn't read any other comments which struck me as "dumb" I'm curious as to what you thought was so dumb.
2. If a child that age collecting licks then somebody eh do their job from since he small.
This is stating the obvious... if you still beating a (presumably) 15-year old then that child obviously either have issues or your parenting skills not getting thru. But all that aside, a 15-year old collecting blows in Trinidad not that unusual... don't see why it would be so unusual anywhere else. It is also worth noting that his uncle is the one disciplining him here, suggesting an absence of parents in his life. So yeah, kinda obvious that the parenting is implicated.
Even so... I'm not sure what you restating the obvious has to do with the "dumb" comment above.
3. No amount of guff up say otherwise.
Maybe is my recollection as to the meaning of "guff up" that foggy, but my understanding is that it means he coulda swell he chest and play man... or stand up to de uncle in dis instance.
What would him getting back in his uncle's face say "otherwise" about his upbringing? Who said anything about his upbringing in the first place for the "guff up" comment to be referenced back to it (by the "otherwise")? Finally, how does the "guff up" comment tie back to the "dumb" comment?
As I said... just not making any sense.
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It eh making no sense eh? How so?
1. Allyuh could be real dumb sometimes...
I don't feel personally offended... but since I didn't read any other comments which struck me as "dumb" I'm curious as to what you thought was so dumb.
2. If a child that age collecting licks then somebody eh do their job from since he small.
This is stating the obvious... if you still beating a (presumably) 15-year old then that child obviously either have issues or your parenting skills not getting thru. But all that aside, a 15-year old collecting blows in Trinidad not that unusual... don't see why it would be so unusual anywhere else. It is also worth noting that his uncle is the one disciplining him here, suggesting an absence of parents in his life. So yeah, kinda obvious that the parenting is implicated.
Even so... I'm not sure what you restating the obvious has to do with the "dumb" comment above.
3. No amount of guff up say otherwise.
Maybe is my recollection as to the meaning of "guff up" that foggy, but my understanding is that it means he coulda swell he chest and play man... or stand up to de uncle in dis instance.
What would him getting back in his uncle's face say "otherwise" about his upbringing? Who said anything about his upbringing in the first place for the "guff up" comment to be referenced back to it (by the "otherwise")? Finally, how does the "guff up" comment tie back to the "dumb" comment?
As I said... just not making any sense.
(1) people watch a 13-16 old boy get licks after he already comply with the uncle and laughing and calling him 'soft' because he take the blows like a man. if he lick down uncle in a rage we woulda respect him for being 'hard'?
(2) If lack of parenting skills so obvious how nobody eh mention dat? So because 15 year old does collect licks in T&T makes it OK or not OK somewhere else?
(3) I'm talking about guff on the part of the uncle, for all he throwing round he weight he coulda do better than cuss down the youth.
I have no problem with the licks...but don't put it up on the web for the world to see.
Edit: No problem with corporal punishment in general
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if the uncle take a belt to another adult, he could be charged with assault. But to a minor in his family, no assault.
There are alternatives to this sort of corporal punishment.
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if the uncle take a belt to another adult, he could be charged with assault. But to a minor in his family, no assault.
There are alternatives to this sort of corporal punishment.
IMO Corporal punishment is justifiable in some cases, but not at that age, and from what seems to have transpired here, not in this situation.
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Dat wasn't no set ah lics! His thick arse probably didn't feel dat! Now if he wanted tuh make it interesting he would have wupped his bare back with a wet towel. Uncle lucky his damn pants didn't fall off!
:rotfl: for real. de uncle need two belt - one for de child and de odder for he pants.
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(1) people watch a 13-16 old boy get licks after he already comply with the uncle and laughing and calling him 'soft' because he take the blows like a man. if he lick down uncle in a rage we woulda respect him for being 'hard'?
(2) If lack of parenting skills so obvious how nobody eh mention dat? So because 15 year old does collect licks in T&T makes it OK or not OK somewhere else?
(3) I'm talking about guff on the part of the uncle, for all he throwing round he weight he coulda do better than cuss down the youth.
I have no problem with the licks...but don't put it up on the web for the world to see.
Edit: No problem with corporal punishment in general
1) Nobody was laughing "at" yuteman, and I didn't see anybody call him "soft", say he take he licks like ah man or suggested he woulda be "hard" to fight back. I really dunno where all ah dat coming from.
2)Just because you felt the need to belabor the obvious don't mean others have to. He's being disciplined by his uncle, the clear implication being that his biological parents aren't in his life. His uncle is standing in to fill a gap vacated by his parents. I could go into more but I really don't see the need to be honest. As for the comparison to Trinidad, it was meant to point out that this incident in itself is really NOT as unusual as you're trying to make it out to be, the only reason we don't hear about it more in N. America is because corporal punishment for the most part is a crime. In TnT it isn't.
3) You standing here in yuh little cyber bubble criticising the uncle for not disciplining as YOU see fit, well pardna if if yuh want to stand in judgment of the man then that is yuh right, whey ah go tell yuh. Some ah we trying to make allowances for the real world challenges affecting the decision.
Like I say... yuh comments really didn't make any sense in relation to the preceding comments. It was really puzzling to me what was so "dumb" about the preceding comments, but now it is obvious that you just misread the situation and rush in from left field attacking imaginary foes. But who knows... apparently Dutty with he talk ah "flow chart" see de same thing.
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if the uncle take a belt to another adult, he could be charged with assault. But to a minor in his family, no assault.
There are alternatives to this sort of corporal punishment.
IMO Corporal punishment is justifiable in some cases, but not at that age, and from what seems to have transpired here, not in this situation.
I feel compelled to ask... and what do you perceive yuteman's indiscretion to be, since yuh didn't think de licks appropriate?
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Pecan first off we don't know that there has been a determination that "no assault" took place, we only seeing this chapter of the situation in isolation. Secondly, if the law (or people looking on) make a determination that "no assault" took place then it's likely for two reasons:
a) There exist in society a recognition that corporal punishment, while disfavored, is still acceptable to a degree.
b) The "degree" issue is implicated here in that the device used (a flimsy belt) and the nature of the discipline isn't such that is likely to "shock the senses" of a reasonable person, or otherwise cause outrage.
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(1) people watch a 13-16 old boy get licks after he already comply with the uncle and laughing and calling him 'soft' because he take the blows like a man. if he lick down uncle in a rage we woulda respect him for being 'hard'?
(2) If lack of parenting skills so obvious how nobody eh mention dat? So because 15 year old does collect licks in T&T makes it OK or not OK somewhere else?
(3) I'm talking about guff on the part of the uncle, for all he throwing round he weight he coulda do better than cuss down the youth.
I have no problem with the licks...but don't put it up on the web for the world to see.
Edit: No problem with corporal punishment in general
1) Nobody was laughing "at" yuteman, and I didn't see anybody call him "soft", say he take he licks like ah man or suggested he woulda be "hard" to fight back. I really dunno where all ah dat coming from.
2)Just because you felt the need to belabor the obvious don't mean others have to. He's being disciplined by his uncle, the clear implication being that his biological parents aren't in his life. His uncle is standing in to fill a gap vacated by his parents. I could go into more but I really don't see the need to be honest. As for the comparison to Trinidad, it was meant to point out that this incident in itself is really NOT as unusual as you're trying to make it out to be, the only reason we don't hear about it more in N. America is because corporal punishment for the most part is a crime. In TnT it isn't.
3) You standing here in yuh little cyber bubble criticising the uncle for not disciplining as YOU see fit, well pardna if if yuh want to stand in judgment of the man then that is yuh right, whey ah go tell yuh. Some ah we trying to make allowances for the real world challenges affecting the decision.
Like I say... yuh comments really didn't make any sense in relation to the preceding comments. It was really puzzling to me what was so "dumb" about the preceding comments, but now it is obvious that you just misread the situation and rush in from left field attacking imaginary foes. But who knows... apparently Dutty with he talk ah "flow chart" see de same thing.
(1) Read again...is a kicks thread, men getting kicks. If people post messages with LOL or :rotfl: that means what...they crying? A next man say he is a big baby. It eh much of a stretch to interpret that as being a softman. Don't try to ignore what right in front yuh face.
(2) Hardly call that proper discipline...and how you know the boy parents vacate anything? Where it say that on the video? For all we know they coulda drop him off and go on vacation in the Hamptons. The issue is that the youth post stories on the internet, the uncle didn't like them and intead of keeping family business private he broadcast the mess to the whole planet, pants falling off and all.
As for this idea that because it it happens in T&T does not make it unusual is a poor argument. Trinidad is a model nation for bringing up children now? And maybe next time yuh in Trini try pulling down yuh pants and beating some small man dey...you might see how 'usual' them go stand for that.
(3) And others can sit in their cyber bubble and ketch kicks. If the man stupid enough to let everybody see his family business then yeah, he should expect judgement from self-righteous, judgemental cyber peepers like me, or the police who may be watching. And if he collect a cyber buss-head in the squad-car they should post it on the web. Only then it would'nt be so funny.
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if the uncle take a belt to another adult, he could be charged with assault. But to a minor in his family, no assault.
There are alternatives to this sort of corporal punishment.
IMO Corporal punishment is justifiable in some cases, but not at that age, and from what seems to have transpired here, not in this situation.
I feel compelled to ask... and what do you perceive yuteman's indiscretion to be, since yuh didn't think de licks appropriate?
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He uncle saying he posted stroies of himself involved in gangsterism. But that is not the point. The point is that after the boy done say he sorry, uncle proceed to throw licks, cussing and carrying on like a jammette. if you think you would handle your own children, or your own nephews, nieces, little cousins etc. like that then go ahead and please yuhself.
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if the uncle take a belt to another adult, he could be charged with assault. But to a minor in his family, no assault.
There are alternatives to this sort of corporal punishment.
IMO Corporal punishment is justifiable in some cases, but not at that age, and from what seems to have transpired here, not in this situation.
I feel compelled to ask... and what do you perceive yuteman's indiscretion to be, since yuh didn't think de licks appropriate?
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He uncle saying he posted stroies of himself involved in gangsterism. But that is not the point. The point is that after the boy done say he sorry, uncle proceed to throw licks, cussing and carrying on like a jammette. if you think you would handle your own children, or your own nephews, nieces, little cousins etc. like that then go ahead and please yuhself.
All dis lyrics going back and forth over ah simple text book cutarse?? allyuh real like tuh argue yes!
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(1) Read again...is a kicks thread, men getting kicks. If people post messages with LOL or :rotfl: that means what...they crying? A next man say he is a big baby. It eh much of a stretch to interpret that as being a softman. Don't try to ignore what right in front yuh face.
Like Just Cool say... all ah dis back and forth really getting outta hand. People "laugh" online for a variety of reasons, not only because they "getting kicks"... and I for one didn't interpret the situation to be that people getting kicks at the yute. People also laugh because they're happy... I for one, whether I laugh or not, was happy (as in communicating approval) to see some ole fashion discipline being employed. It is sorely lacking among the very same black youth represented here.
(2) Hardly call that proper discipline...and how you know the boy parents vacate anything? Where it say that on the video? For all we know they coulda drop him off and go on vacation in the Hamptons. The issue is that the youth post stories on the internet, the uncle didn't like them and intead of keeping family business private he broadcast the mess to the whole planet, pants falling off and all.
All ah that splitting hairs you engaging in just to justify your overreaction to the situation eh really making your case stronger. None of us know that situation but there are safe assumptions that can be made, one of those is that no one in their right mind will undertake to discipline a child like that, and no child will submit to the same, without authority. We could assume that the uncle has permission to beat the boy, but a more likely scenario is that he is raising the boy. If you want to argue with that then feel free, just be careful in painting with yuh broad brush that some ah dat "dumb" paint eh get on yuh.
As for this idea that because it it happens in T&T does not make it unusual is a poor argument. Trinidad is a model nation for bringing up children now? And maybe next time yuh in Trini try pulling down yuh pants and beating some small man dey...you might see how 'usual' them go stand for that.
Are you playing dotish or just looking for argument? You come here making a big deal about a youth of his age being disciplined as he is. I mentioned Trinidad but I easily could have mentioned any other Caribbean island or any other country in the world where there isn't as great a hang up about corporal punishment as there is here in the US. Trinidad and the US are really the only two relevant countries (throw in Canada if it would make you feel happy) b/c the situation took place in the US, and most of us here watching the vid are Trinis.
It's not a matter of whether TnT is some model or not... the fact is that for all your manufactured outrage at "a child that age" getting licks... the age thing simply isn't a factor for most of us. That's like making the argument that an 8 year old shouldn't be going to the corner store by himself. In Trinidad people would laugh at yuh. Whether it right or wrong is dependent on the situation, it's not about positing one as some "model" over the other.
(3) And others can sit in their cyber bubble and ketch kicks. If the man stupid enough to let everybody see his family business then yeah, he should expect judgement from self-righteous, judgemental cyber peepers like me, or the police who may be watching. And if he collect a cyber buss-head in the squad-car they should post it on the web. Only then it would'nt be so funny.
Well at least yuh honest about what it is yuh doing.
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if the uncle take a belt to another adult, he could be charged with assault. But to a minor in his family, no assault.
There are alternatives to this sort of corporal punishment.
IMO Corporal punishment is justifiable in some cases, but not at that age, and from what seems to have transpired here, not in this situation.
I feel compelled to ask... and what do you perceive yuteman's indiscretion to be, since yuh didn't think de licks appropriate?
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He uncle saying he posted stroies of himself involved in gangsterism. But that is not the point. The point is that after the boy done say he sorry, uncle proceed to throw licks, cussing and carrying on like a jammette. if you think you would handle your own children, or your own nephews, nieces, little cousins etc. like that then go ahead and please yuhself.
All dis lyrics going back and forth over ah simple text book cutarse?? allyuh real like tuh argue yes!
Why not? No worse than who score the prettiest goal, who is a shitong, whether Man U better than Barca, and who WAG is the biggest skettel.
And don't forget, this is only de opening act...the real heavyweight championship does start anytime you and TC does bounce up in a thread 8)
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He uncle saying he posted stroies of himself involved in gangsterism. But that is not the point. The point is that after the boy done say he sorry, uncle proceed to throw licks, cussing and carrying on like a jammette. if you think you would handle your own children, or your own nephews, nieces, little cousins etc. like that then go ahead and please yuhself.
That is infact the point... you don't know the environment in which that family living. You don't know how real the threat of "gangsterism" is to that particular youth or why the uncle felt like he had to be forceful in sending a message not only to this youth that his actions wouldn't be condoned... but sending a message to the same recipients of the earlier "gangsterism" post from the youth... letting them know not to try and encourage him in their shit... because he has a family who don't condone that choice of lifestyle.
Black parents in this country are faced with challenges that people like you might not understand. Even I don't fully understand the scope of it but being close to the situation I fully understand it. If nothing else I understand the difficulty of the choices they have to make, and with that in mind I fully endorse what it is this uncle is doing, even if I disagree with how he goes about it. I have to emphasize "uncle" b/c this is not his child... he easily could not care one f**king way or another. If you want to criticize and complain from hunky dory land then by all means feel free to continue.
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(1) Read again...is a kicks thread, men getting kicks. If people post messages with LOL or :rotfl: that means what...they crying? A next man say he is a big baby. It eh much of a stretch to interpret that as being a softman. Don't try to ignore what right in front yuh face.
Like Just Cool say... all ah dis back and forth really getting outta hand. People "laugh" online for a variety of reasons, not only because they "getting kicks"... and I for one didn't interpret the situation to be that people getting kicks at the yute. People also laugh because they're happy... I for one, whether I laugh or not, was happy (as in communicating approval) to see some ole fashion discipline being employed. It is sorely lacking among the very same black youth represented here.
(2) Hardly call that proper discipline...and how you know the boy parents vacate anything? Where it say that on the video? For all we know they coulda drop him off and go on vacation in the Hamptons. The issue is that the youth post stories on the internet, the uncle didn't like them and intead of keeping family business private he broadcast the mess to the whole planet, pants falling off and all.
All ah that splitting hairs you engaging in just to justify your overreaction to the situation eh really making your case stronger. None of us know that situation but there are safe assumptions that can be made, one of those is that no one in their right mind will undertake to discipline a child like that, and no child will submit to the same, without authority. We could assume that the uncle has permission to beat the boy, but a more likely scenario is that he is raising the boy. If you want to argue with that then feel free, just be careful in painting with yuh broad brush that some ah dat "dumb" paint eh get on yuh.
As for this idea that because it it happens in T&T does not make it unusual is a poor argument. Trinidad is a model nation for bringing up children now? And maybe next time yuh in Trini try pulling down yuh pants and beating some small man dey...you might see how 'usual' them go stand for that.
Are you playing dotish or just looking for argument? You come here making a big deal about a youth of his age being disciplined as he is. I mentioned Trinidad but I easily could have mentioned any other Caribbean island or any other country in the world where there isn't as great a hang up about corporal punishment as there is here in the US. Trinidad and the US are really the only two relevant countries (throw in Canada if it would make you feel happy) b/c the situation took place in the US, and most of us here watching the vid are Trinis.
It's not a matter of whether TnT is some model or not... the fact is that for all your manufactured outrage at "a child that age" getting licks... the age thing simply isn't a factor for most of us. That's like making the argument that an 8 year old shouldn't be going to the corner store by himself. In Trinidad people would laugh at yuh. Whether it right or wrong is dependent on the situation, it's not about positing one as some "model" over the other.
(3) And others can sit in their cyber bubble and ketch kicks. If the man stupid enough to let everybody see his family business then yeah, he should expect judgement from self-righteous, judgemental cyber peepers like me, or the police who may be watching. And if he collect a cyber buss-head in the squad-car they should post it on the web. Only then it would'nt be so funny.
Well at least yuh honest about what it is yuh doing.
He uncle saying he posted stroies of himself involved in gangsterism. But that is not the point. The point is that after the boy done say he sorry, uncle proceed to throw licks, cussing and carrying on like a jammette. if you think you would handle your own children, or your own nephews, nieces, little cousins etc. like that then go ahead and please yuhself.
That is infact the point... you don't know the environment in which that family living. You don't know how real the threat of "gangsterism" is to that particular youth or why the uncle felt like he had to be forceful in sending a message not only to this youth that his actions wouldn't be condoned... but sending a message to the same recipients of the earlier "gangsterism" post from the youth... letting them know not to try and encourage him in their shit... because he has a family who don't condone that choice of lifestyle.
Black parents in this country are faced with challenges that people like you might not understand. Even I don't fully understand the scope of it but being close to the situation I fully understand it. If nothing else I understand the difficulty of the choices they have to make, and with that in mind I fully endorse what it is this uncle is doing, even if I disagree with how he goes about it. I have to emphasize "uncle" b/c this is not his child... he could easily not care one f**king way or another. If you want to criticize and complain from hunky dory land then by all means feel free to continue.
You were close to the situation eh? You understand the challenges and the difficulty right? So explain to us what the situation is....And make it loud and clear so those of us sitting in 'hunky dory land' could hear yuh good
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Dat wasn't no set ah lics! His thick arse probably didn't feel dat! Now if he wanted tuh make it interesting he would have wupped his bare back with a wet towel. Uncle lucky his damn pants didn't fall off!
:rotfl: for real. de uncle need two belt - one for de child and de odder for he pants.
:rotfl:
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You were close to the situation eh? You understand the challenges and the difficulty right? So explain to us what the situation is....And make it loud and clear so those of us sitting in 'hunky dory land' could hear yuh good
Are you playing dotish or just looking for argument?
Thanks for answering my question :beermug:
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You were close to the situation eh? You understand the challenges and the difficulty right? So explain to us what the situation is....And make it loud and clear so those of us sitting in 'hunky dory land' could hear yuh good
Are you playing dotish or just looking for argument?
Thanks for answering my question :beermug:
Playing dotish. So answer the question nah
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Ah feel like some posters may be experiencing flashbacks from watching yuteman get the belt! Therapy works people, it works! Just say yes!
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Ah feel like some posters may be experiencing flashbacks from watching yuteman get the belt! Therapy works people, it works! Just say yes!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Well I get licks like everybody else...and probably shoulda get plenty more for all the back chat, climbing out window to go fete, laziness and general slacking in my teenage years!
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Playing dotish. So answer the question nah
Well dotish... if you read closely you would see that I never professed to be close to that particular situation in the video, I have no idea where you get that from. I was speaking in general terms of being close to the situation with black parents and the difficulties they face with their children when they get to this age. I'm not about to get into no set ah detail about what I does do or what I dealing with, but most with sense would understand that peer pressure is a hell of a thing when dealing with teenagers. When yuh talking about black teenagers the stakes are multiplied hundredfold.
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Playing dotish. So answer the question nah
Well dotish... if you read closely you would see that I never professed to be close to that particular situation in the video, I have no idea where you get that from. I was speaking in general terms of being close to the situation with black parents and the difficulties they face with their children when they get to this age. I'm not about to get into no set ah detail about what I does do or what I dealing with, but most with sense would understand that peer pressure is a hell of a thing when dealing with teenagers. When yuh talking about black teenagers the stakes are multiplied hundredfold.
Riiiiight....
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The uncle eh care about the language the yuteman using, but he damn sure as hell not gonna allow that Gangsta crap.
Had to deal with ah nephew in T&T with the same facebook thing. Just join facebook and in he info talking about he is Gaza Crew. He not in anything just bussing up he mouth. Who knows who gonna read that crap and make something out of it, or threaten him because he stupid enough to write something like that. Made his grandfather blow gas in his arse.
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if the uncle take a belt to another adult, he could be charged with assault. But to a minor in his family, no assault.
There are alternatives to this sort of corporal punishment.
IMO Corporal punishment is justifiable in some cases, but not at that age, and from what seems to have transpired here, not in this situation.
I feel compelled to ask... and what do you perceive yuteman's indiscretion to be, since yuh didn't think de licks appropriate?
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Pecan first off we don't know that there has been a determination that "no assault" took place, we only seeing this chapter of the situation in isolation. Secondly, if the law (or people looking on) make a determination that "no assault" took place then it's likely for two reasons:
a) There exist in society a recognition that corporal punishment, while disfavored, is still acceptable to a degree.
b) The "degree" issue is implicated here in that the device used (a flimsy belt) and the nature of the discipline isn't such that is likely to "shock the senses" of a reasonable person, or otherwise cause outrage.
No disagreement here. I was speaking in general terms and not really commenting on this particular incident.
Corporal punishment is not my style but I certainly recognize that in our society, it is an acceptable form of punishment.
My comment was just stating an observation that in some cases, a physical action inflicted on an adult by an adult could be deemed to be sufficient grounds to lay assault charges. Whereas, the same action inflicted on a minor may be deemed to be acceptable within societal views on corporal punishment. My personal opinion is that this is a double standard but the proponents of corporal punishment would certainly disagree with me.
The law does not prohibit corporal punishment but I choose not to use corporal punishment with my three children other than the few occasions where a light tap on a diapered bottom was used to get the child's attention. And I can count on one hand how often that occurred for all of my three children. More so with the first two children and never with child #3.
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No disagreement here. I was speaking in general terms and not really commenting on this particular incident.
Corporal punishment is not my style but I certainly recognize that in our society, it is an acceptable form of punishment.
My comment was just stating an observation that in some cases, a physical action inflicted on an adult by an adult could be deemed to be sufficient grounds to lay assault charges. Whereas, the same action inflicted on a minor may be deemed to be acceptable within societal views on corporal punishment. My personal opinion is that this is a double standard but the proponents of corporal punishment would certainly disagree with me.
It absolutely is a double-standard, but in my mind it's a concession made out of acknowledgement that parents (or guardians) are responsible for that child, and in many cases responsible for the actions of that child. As such they have a more at stake, justifying the flexibility in applying criminal standards to their actions. Additionally, there's a reasonable assumption that any discipline is ultimately motivated by concern or the best interest of the child.
Neither the "responsibility" nor "concern" factors apply in the adult scenario... grown adults can presumably be responsible and concerned for their own selves.
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never a dull moment in here.
yuteman deserve d licks because he did stupidness and i bet he wouldnt do dat nonsense again
and yes i laughed, because it was funny. what's the big deal?
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Seriously though. ah know allyuh stuck on the fact that ah fella look almost grown still getting licks from his uncle, but missed the most important part, which might be the real reason for the cutskin on the WWW.
could it be that this uncle was protecting his nephew from death or jail by putting this thing on camera? first the man was talkin bout killin and that is what really got him goin, who to say the yute didn't brag about killin someone just tuh look good , and maybe this someone was ah renown gang member who's ppl may want to seek revenge, or maybe he was protecting this kid from the police who in those mid-western and southern towns (cause that's where they sound like they were from) are quite racial excessive and brutal not to mention punishment for some of these crime may even be draconian.
yeh it was kinda weird, and the uncle may have been verbally excessive, but maybe this guy saw enough killin heartache and sadness due to gang violence to last a life time (close childhood friends family members) and never wants this thing to hit home.
i know one things for sure, the only thing that separate my cousins from me and my siblings was the discipline my parents handed down. had they given us the same freedom and lack of care, who knows how we would've turned out!
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Seriously though. ah know allyuh stuck on the fact that ah fella look almost grown still getting licks from his uncle, but missed the most important part, which might be the real reason for the cutskin on the WWW.
could it be that this uncle was protecting his nephew from death or jail by putting this thing on camera? first the man was talkin bout killin and that is what really got him goin, who to say the yute didn't brag about killin someone just tuh look good , and maybe this someone was ah renown gang member who's ppl may want to seek revenge, or maybe he was protecting this kid from the police who in those mid-western and southern towns (cause that's where they sound like they were from) are quite racial excessive and brutal not to mention punishment for some of these crime may even be draconian.
yeh it was kinda weird, and the uncle may have been verbally excessive, but maybe this guy saw enough killin heartache and sadness due to gang violence to last a life time (close childhood friends family members) and never wants this thing to hit home.
i know one things for sure, the only thing that separate my cousins from me and my siblings was the discipline my parents handed down. had they given us the same freedom and lack of care, who knows how we would've turned out!
yuh unders! :beermug:
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Seriously though. ah know allyuh stuck on the fact that ah fella look almost grown still getting licks from his uncle, but missed the most important part, which might be the real reason for the cutskin on the WWW.
could it be that this uncle was protecting his nephew from death or jail by putting this thing on camera? first the man was talkin bout killin and that is what really got him goin, who to say the yute didn't brag about killin someone just tuh look good , and maybe this someone was ah renown gang member who's ppl may want to seek revenge, or maybe he was protecting this kid from the police who in those mid-western and southern towns (cause that's where they sound like they were from) are quite racial excessive and brutal not to mention punishment for some of these crime may even be draconian.
yeh it was kinda weird, and the uncle may have been verbally excessive, but maybe this guy saw enough killin heartache and sadness due to gang violence to last a life time (close childhood friends family members) and never wants this thing to hit home.
i know one things for sure, the only thing that separate my cousins from me and my siblings was the discipline my parents handed down. had they given us the same freedom and lack of care, who knows how we would've turned out!
That could be the case for real. Who feels it knows. Good post :beermug:
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Seriously though. ah know allyuh stuck on the fact that ah fella look almost grown still getting licks from his uncle, but missed the most important part, which might be the real reason for the cutskin on the WWW.
could it be that this uncle was protecting his nephew from death or jail by putting this thing on camera? first the man was talkin bout killin and that is what really got him goin, who to say the yute didn't brag about killin someone just tuh look good , and maybe this someone was ah renown gang member who's ppl may want to seek revenge, or maybe he was protecting this kid from the police who in those mid-western and southern towns (cause that's where they sound like they were from) are quite racial excessive and brutal not to mention punishment for some of these crime may even be draconian.
yeh it was kinda weird, and the uncle may have been verbally excessive, but maybe this guy saw enough killin heartache and sadness due to gang violence to last a life time (close childhood friends family members) and never wants this thing to hit home.
i know one things for sure, the only thing that separate my cousins from me and my siblings was the discipline my parents handed down. had they given us the same freedom and lack of care, who knows how we would've turned out!
That could be the case for real. Who feels it knows. Good post :beermug:
Not to cause more argument, but how is acknowledgement that just cool's post is good yet you dismiss the same points made by Bake and shark? A history there?
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Seriously though. ah know allyuh stuck on the fact that ah fella look almost grown still getting licks from his uncle, but missed the most important part, which might be the real reason for the cutskin on the WWW.
could it be that this uncle was protecting his nephew from death or jail by putting this thing on camera? first the man was talkin bout killin and that is what really got him goin, who to say the yute didn't brag about killin someone just tuh look good , and maybe this someone was ah renown gang member who's ppl may want to seek revenge, or maybe he was protecting this kid from the police who in those mid-western and southern towns (cause that's where they sound like they were from) are quite racial excessive and brutal not to mention punishment for some of these crime may even be draconian.
yeh it was kinda weird, and the uncle may have been verbally excessive, but maybe this guy saw enough killin heartache and sadness due to gang violence to last a life time (close childhood friends family members) and never wants this thing to hit home.
i know one things for sure, the only thing that separate my cousins from me and my siblings was the discipline my parents handed down. had they given us the same freedom and lack of care, who knows how we would've turned out!
That could be the case for real. Who feels it knows. Good post :beermug:
Not to cause more argument, but how is acknowledgement that just cool's post is good yet you dismiss the same points made by Bake and shark? A history there?
Were they the same points? JC was far more eloquent IMO, and put things in a way that put things in clearer perspective for me. And every once in a while I like to yank Bakes chain a little bit.
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Anyone following the story of "Amy Chau" and her new book "Battle Hymn Of The Tiger Mother"?
By Amy Chua
updated 1/10/2011 3:32:13 PM ET 2011-01-10T20:32:13
In Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother, Amy Chua describes her relentless determination to make her two daughters successful by raising them in a strict fashion, contrary to what she sees as modern American standards of permissiveness and mediocrity. In this excerpt, she starts to explain her parenting philosophy.
A lot of people wonder how Chinese parents raise such stereotypically successful kids. They wonder what these parents do to produce so many math whizzes and music prodigies, what its like inside the family, and whether they could do it too. Well, I can tell them, because Ive done it. Here are some things my daughters, Sophia and Louisa, were never allowed to do:
attend a sleepover
have a playdate
be in a school play
complain about not being in a school play
watch TV or play computer games
choose their own extracurricular activities
get any grade less than an A
not be the #1 student in every subject except gym and drama
play any instrument other than the piano or violin
not play the piano or violin.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41005969/ns/today-books/ (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41005969/ns/today-books/)
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Anyone following the story of "Amy Chau" and her new book "Battle Hymn Of The Tiger Mother"?
By Amy Chua
updated 1/10/2011 3:32:13 PM ET 2011-01-10T20:32:13
In Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother, Amy Chua describes her relentless determination to make her two daughters successful by raising them in a strict fashion, contrary to what she sees as modern American standards of permissiveness and mediocrity. In this excerpt, she starts to explain her parenting philosophy.
A lot of people wonder how Chinese parents raise such stereotypically successful kids. They wonder what these parents do to produce so many math whizzes and music prodigies, what its like inside the family, and whether they could do it too. Well, I can tell them, because Ive done it. Here are some things my daughters, Sophia and Louisa, were never allowed to do:
attend a sleepover
have a playdate
be in a school play
complain about not being in a school play
watch TV or play computer games
choose their own extracurricular activities
get any grade less than an A
not be the #1 student in every subject except gym and drama
play any instrument other than the piano or violin
not play the piano or violin.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41005969/ns/today-books/ (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41005969/ns/today-books/)
you get prodigies and perfectionists but you can also get uptight obsessive compulsive introverts
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you get prodigies and perfectionists but you can also get uptight obsessive compulsive introverts
yup,,,and complete societal outcasts
for every one of those 'success' stories you does never hear about the other 1000 kids who rebel against their opressive parents and turn wayward.
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Anyone following the story of "Amy Chau" and her new book "Battle Hymn Of The Tiger Mother"?
By Amy Chua
updated 1/10/2011 3:32:13 PM ET 2011-01-10T20:32:13
In Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother, Amy Chua describes her relentless determination to make her two daughters successful by raising them in a strict fashion, contrary to what she sees as modern American standards of permissiveness and mediocrity. In this excerpt, she starts to explain her parenting philosophy.
A lot of people wonder how Chinese parents raise such stereotypically successful kids. They wonder what these parents do to produce so many math whizzes and music prodigies, what its like inside the family, and whether they could do it too. Well, I can tell them, because Ive done it. Here are some things my daughters, Sophia and Louisa, were never allowed to do:
attend a sleepover
have a playdate
be in a school play
complain about not being in a school play
watch TV or play computer games
choose their own extracurricular activities
get any grade less than an A
not be the #1 student in every subject except gym and drama
play any instrument other than the piano or violin
not play the piano or violin.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41005969/ns/today-books/ (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41005969/ns/today-books/)
i'm a little surprised no mention was made of speaking the native language at home and/or language classes. i thought that was part of the program as well.
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Anyone following the story of "Amy Chau" and her new book "Battle Hymn Of The Tiger Mother"?
By Amy Chua
updated 1/10/2011 3:32:13 PM ET 2011-01-10T20:32:13
In Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother, Amy Chua describes her relentless determination to make her two daughters successful by raising them in a strict fashion, contrary to what she sees as modern American standards of permissiveness and mediocrity. In this excerpt, she starts to explain her parenting philosophy.
A lot of people wonder how Chinese parents raise such stereotypically successful kids. They wonder what these parents do to produce so many math whizzes and music prodigies, what its like inside the family, and whether they could do it too. Well, I can tell them, because Ive done it. Here are some things my daughters, Sophia and Louisa, were never allowed to do:
attend a sleepover
have a playdate
be in a school play
complain about not being in a school play
watch TV or play computer games
choose their own extracurricular activities
get any grade less than an A
not be the #1 student in every subject except gym and drama
play any instrument other than the piano or violin
not play the piano or violin.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41005969/ns/today-books/ (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41005969/ns/today-books/)
you get prodigies and perfectionists but you can also get uptight obsessive compulsive introverts
Not to mention not knowing how to handle failure in a healthy manner due to unrealistic expectations they place on themselves and others place on them!