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Title: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on March 07, 2011, 06:20:07 AM
SPICE BOYZ TO ENHANCE TEAM FOR GOLD CUP
http://www.gfa.gd

http://www.gfa.gd/component/content/article/1-latest-news/70-spice-boyz-to-enhance-team-for-gold-cup

ST GEORGE’S, Grenada - Grenada Football Association (GFA)is seeking to strengthen the senior men’s national team ahead of its second outing in the CONCACAF Gold Cup to be staged in the USA from June 5th to 25th.

The GFA has confirmed that the new management of the senior team will be looking toward the United Kingdom for more accomplished professionals with
Grenadian roots.

Among those being targeted are Blackburn Rovers’ Jason Roberts, Everton’s Jermaine Beckford and Wycombe Wanderers’ defender Leon Johnson.

US-based Shalrie Joseph and Craig Rocastle are also expected to feature prominently in the Spice Boyz line-up. Joseph plays for the New England
Revolution in Major League Soccer and Rocastle is a midfielder with Sporting Kansas City also in the MLS.

In recent years the GFA, has secured the services of UK-based players to enhance the team in international tournaments including World Cup
preliminaries. The team is hoping for an improved performance and possible second round qualification in the 2011 Gold Cup Tournament.

The GFA has extended an invitation to players with Grenadian roots and who are interested in representing Grenada to contact the Technical Committee of the association.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Reggaefan on March 07, 2011, 07:45:54 AM
Interesting to see If Jermain Beckford accepts the invitation from Grenada, knowing that he is also eligible to play for Jamaica.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: frico on March 07, 2011, 09:51:17 AM
Interesting to see If Jermain Beckford accepts the invitation from Grenada, knowing that he is also eligible to play for Jamaica.
What a shame we Trinis didn't have reason to go to the UK as early as other Caribbean people,I suppose these people left their shores to seek a life much better than what they experienced in their homelands.TT people did leave TT but a high percentage ended up studying and even if they stayed their children followed suit,recently though some Trinis have had kids who are getting involved in football.We should still be proud of what we have achieved in 2006 and getting so close in 1990, with virtually all home grown players.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on March 07, 2011, 09:59:40 AM
Interesting to see If Jermain Beckford accepts the invitation from Grenada, knowing that he is also eligible to play for Jamaica.
What a shame we Trinis didn't have reason to go to the UK as early as other Caribbean people,I suppose these people left their shores to seek a life much better than what they experienced in their homelands.TT people did leave TT but a high percentage ended up studying and even if they stayed their children followed suit,recently though some Trinis have had kids who are getting involved in football.We should still be proud of what we have achieved in 2006 and getting so close in 1990, with virtually all home grown players.

there are guys eligible to play for us but it seems we don't Scout/approach players in the UK we only look at the USA and Canadian players
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Reggaefan on March 07, 2011, 11:43:41 AM
Interesting to see If Jermain Beckford accepts the invitation from Grenada, knowing that he is also eligible to play for Jamaica.
What a shame we Trinis didn't have reason to go to the UK as early as other Caribbean people,I suppose these people left their shores to seek a life much better than what they experienced in their homelands.TT people did leave TT but a high percentage ended up studying and even if they stayed their children followed suit,recently though some Trinis have had kids who are getting involved in football.We should still be proud of what we have achieved in 2006 and getting so close in 1990, with virtually all home grown players.

The teams from the caribbean are no longer looking to UK born players like they used to 10 years ago. In Jamaica's case back in 1997/98, we had virtually no Jamaican born and bred professional players playing outside of Jamaica that were eligible to be called upon. Today, Jamaica can easily assemble 18 players who it has exported to various leagues accross europe and North America in the past 5 years. At the same time, players such as Nyron Nosworthy has repeatedly called upon the JFF for consideration in future squads with little success. Ashley Young once approached the JFF about his eligibility, but the JFF never showed further interest (in this case, i thought this is one that got away from the JFF). So its somewhat of a double-edged sword. There are at least 5 players in the EPL TODAY who are eligible for Jamaica and would probably accept if given the call, but have not been given a look. Why, because we have more options today than we did back then. Not that I'm saying these playes should be scorned...but its a good problem to have, as we continue to export more and more players to professional clubs accross the globe. Gone are the days when you could walk into a caribbean side (particularly the big 2 Ja and T&T) and start simply because you are a UB40.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: frico on March 07, 2011, 01:03:25 PM
Ah see way yuh saying Reggaefan. 8)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: jamaica2099 on March 08, 2011, 11:50:52 AM
Mexico-El Salvador to highlight Gold Cup opener


NEW YORK - Five-time and defending champion Mexico will open the CONCACAF Gold Cup against El Salvador on June 5 as the nightcap of a Group A doubleheader at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas, that will also feature Costa Rica vs. Cuba, the confederation announced Tuesday.

Caribbean and Central American champions Jamaica and Honduras will be paired in Group B and begin play the following night at The Home Depot Center in Carson, California, with the Reggae Boyz facing Grenada and the Catrachos playing Guatemala.

North American rivals the United States and Canada will complete the opening round of games on Tuesday, June 7 at Ford Field in Detroit, clashing in the second game of a Group C doubleheader that will open with Panama against Guadeloupe.

"We are extremely excited for this year's Gold Cup and are completely confident that it will be the best ever," CONCACAF General Secretary Chuck Blazer said. "We are bringing our fans the region's best football in fantastic venues - with a lot on the line. It is truly a can't-miss event."

Round-robin play will resume on Thursday, June 9, with Group A matches at Charlotte, North Carolina, and continue through June 14, whittling the field to the eight quarterfinalists, which will then begin knockout matches June 18 at the New Meadowlands Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey.

A second doubleheader of quarterfinal matches is set for RFK Stadium in Washington on June 19, with a semifinal doubleheader on June 22 at Reliant Stadium in Houston.

The final will be played June 25 at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California.
A week of exclusive pre-sales is to begin Wednesday. Those wishing to purchase tickets are asked to call the local stadium box office or local MLS team for further information. Tickets will go on sale to the general public on March 16 through www.Ticketmaster.com.

CONCACAF GOLD CUP
All Times U.S. Eastern (Local times in parentheses)
GROUP A: Mexico, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Cuba
GROUP B: Honduras, Guatemala, Jamaica, Grenada
GROUP C: USA, Canada, Panamá, Guadeloupe

First Round
Sunday, June 5
At Arlington, Texas
Costa Rica vs. Cuba, 6 p.m. (5 p.m.)
Mexico vs. El Salvador, 8 p.m. (7 p.m.)

Monday, June 6
At Carson, California
Jamaica vs. Grenada, 9 p.m. (6 p.m.)
Honduras vs. Guatemala, 11 p.m. (8 p.m.)

Tuesday, June 7
At Detroit
Panama vs. Guadeloupe, 6 p.m. (6 p.m.)
United States vs. Canada, 8 p.m. (8 p.m.)

Thursday, June 9
At Charlotte, North Carolina
Costa Rica vs. El Salvador, 7 p.m. (7 p.m.)
Cuba vs. Mexico, 9 p.m. (9 p.m.)

Friday, June 10
At Miami
Jamaica vs. Guatemala, 7 p.m. (7 p.m.)
Grenada vs. Honduras, 9 p.m. (9 p.m.)

Saturday, June 11
At Tampa, Florida
Canada vs. Guadeloupe, 6 p.m. (6 p.m.)
United States vs. Panama, 8 p.m. (8 p.m.)

Sunday, June 12
At Chicago
El Salvador vs. Cuba, 6 p.m. (5 p.m.)
Mexico vs. Costa Rica, 8 p.m. (7 p.m.)

Monday, June 13
At Harrison, New Jersey
Guatemala vs. Grenada, 7 p.m. (7 p.m.)
Honduras vs. Jamaica, 9 p.m. (9 p.m.)

Tuesday, June 14
At Kansas City, Kansas
Canada vs. Panama, 7 p.m. (6 p.m.)
Guadeloupe vs. United States, 9 p.m. (8 p.m.)

Quarterfinals
Saturday, June 18
At East Rutherford, New Jersey
Group A runner-up vs. Group B runner-up-x
Group A winner vs. Group B/C third-place-x
x-matches scheduled for 5 p.m. and 8 p.m. (5 p.m. and 8 p.m. local) with order TBD

Sunday, June 19
At Washington
Group B winner vs. Group C runner-up-y
Group C winner vs. Group A/B third place-y
y-matches scheduled for 3 p.m. and 6 p.m. (3 p.m. and 6 p.m. local) with order TBD

Semifinals
Wednesday, June 22
At Houston
Quarterfinal winners-z
Quarterfinal winners-z
z-matches scheduled for 7 p.m. and 10 p.m. (6 p.m. and 9 p.m. local) with order TBD

Final
Saturday, June 25
At Pasadena, California
Semifinal winners, 9 p.m. (6 p.m.)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: frico on March 08, 2011, 01:19:58 PM
Ah seeing Jamaica somewhere up there with the 3 other top teams,whoever they turn out to be.All the best to the Boyz.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on March 08, 2011, 01:42:44 PM
Ah seeing Jamaica somewhere up there with the 3 other top teams,whoever they turn out to be.All the best to the Boyz.

On Paper, Jamaica should be able to finish at least second in its group. I'd give Honduras a slight edge in winning the group, and, if histrory is anything to go by, Jamaica should get the better of Guatemala. Not that I'm writing off Grenada.

I'd say Jamaica got a fairly easy group, but thats what happens when you go into the tournament as cmapions of your region.  Group C USA, Canada, Panamá, Guadeloupe: any of Canada, Panama, and guadeloupe could accompany the USA through. group B will be the usual suspects Mex and CRC

quarterfinalists:

USA
MEX
CRC
HON
JAM
PAN
CAN (best third place)
SAL (best third place)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Andre on March 08, 2011, 03:23:48 PM
ah backing grenada in this tournament. we is almost family.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Feliziano on March 08, 2011, 08:21:24 PM
well boys and girls, we miss out on the liming this year  :'(

ah have a Southwest ticket and I might be landing in a city near you  ;)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on March 09, 2011, 11:48:07 AM
dat mexico costa rica game in chicago gonna draw the biggest crowd for the tournament. Trus mi dat game gonna be fyar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! last game wid both of those teams was maddnest..
I eh missing out both of theese game for nothing..

war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Midknight on March 09, 2011, 08:44:22 PM
What is this "Gold Cup" of which you speak?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: theworm2345 on March 09, 2011, 08:56:35 PM
What is this "Gold Cup" of which you speak?
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/6794/goldcup.png)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on March 10, 2011, 03:50:48 PM
How Come Group B look like the most traveled group? From Cali to Florida and then to NJ  ??? The other 2 groups with USA and MEX seems to be concentrated in one section of the country...hmmm

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 05, 2011, 08:30:03 AM
Watch games live starting today....

Group A
6:00 PM Costa Rica v Cuba
8:00 PM Mexico v El Salvador

http://www.concacaftv.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Home/
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 05, 2011, 11:22:05 AM
 :yawning: :yawning:

......chups we eh interested in this, we going Brazil!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Socapro on June 05, 2011, 11:45:37 AM
:yawning: :yawning:

......chups we eh interested in this, we going Brazil!!

 ;)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 05, 2011, 03:51:19 PM
any live internet link available guys..
war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Michael-j on June 05, 2011, 04:10:54 PM
any live internet link available guys..
war

http://www.concacaftv.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Home/
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 05, 2011, 04:12:14 PM
any live internet link available guys..
war

http://www.concacaftv.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Home/


It telling me I outt the region..
war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 05, 2011, 04:17:42 PM
I get it now cr 1 up on cuba
war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 05, 2011, 04:38:46 PM
Cuba looking composed and organized, and trying to play the game, but about every 4-5 minutes or so, Costa Rica does cut them apart. This half could just as easily end 3-0 CR as tied 1-1
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 05, 2011, 05:13:22 PM
Cuba coach need a bull pistle. They decide to play a high line to squeeze the play into Costa-Rica half of the field, but when your central defenders playing on the half line, they playing flat across and get beat twice in 3 minutes by a simple through-ball.

4-0 now barely 3 minutes gone in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: College on June 05, 2011, 05:38:14 PM
Cuba coach need a bull pistle. They decide to play a high line to squeeze the play into Costa-Rica half of the field, but when your central defenders playing on the half line, they playing flat across and get beat twice in 3 minutes by a simple through-ball.

4-0 now barely 3 minutes gone in the 2nd half.

5-0 now...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Socaman on June 05, 2011, 05:40:41 PM
Costa Rica putting  ah beating on Cuba....5-0 now
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Socapro on June 05, 2011, 05:49:56 PM
Costa Rica putting  ah beating on Cuba....5-0 now

And we were struggling to beat Cuba in Gold Cup qualification so that could have been us taking that beating!
Thank God we are not in this Gold Cup to save ourselves from that sort of embarassment!   :beermug:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 05, 2011, 05:51:53 PM
these are teams we struggle with in the caribbean.let's see what Grenada do.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 05, 2011, 06:02:19 PM
Cuba would be a good team for us to play again. Like I said they organized and come to play. But they a lil naive in the back and the coaching adjustment at half time set them up for the cutass. After those 2 goals, they were just playing to end the half.

If you going to play that offside trap, then you need a midfielder or somebody to track the runs. What happens with us normally is that we play too deep and leave space for the cutback and the knock-down.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 05, 2011, 06:18:21 PM
It will be interesting to see if Mexico change to accommodate Chicharito. By that I mean that at Man U he was living on the deep crosses to the far post and blind-side runs. Mexico tends to play more through the middle.

Right now, he's playing like a winger.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 05, 2011, 06:30:39 PM
That Mitre El Salvador kit looking better than anything I've seen in the kit thread.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 05, 2011, 06:58:53 PM
Mehico v El Salvador on channel 65  Univision if you have you Direct tv.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kounty on June 05, 2011, 07:03:01 PM
allyuh trini team eh no good.  allyuh backward.  3rd world. cyah beat nobody.  never have, never will.  world cup was a fluke.  alyuh celebrate one draw. alyuh eh nobody on no stage. even if yuh try yuh bes allyuh still ent no shit. that ttff ting is jus excuse. how come everybody else have it together.

that is what I was hearin in my head watchin cuba get run over by CR.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 05, 2011, 07:28:35 PM
El salvador's defence sleep walkin!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 05, 2011, 07:45:42 PM
El salvador's defence sleep walkin!

That is why they does pay the coach.
El Salvador was working hard in the first half to close down Mexico. Now they bun. Mexico making mas. Only South Korea could chase the ball so whole game.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: E-man on June 05, 2011, 07:48:03 PM
Any CONCACAF execs in the gallery at these matches? Who's sitting in the president's box?

Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 05, 2011, 08:04:48 PM
Any CONCACAF execs in the gallery at these matches? Who's sitting in the president's box?
Jerry Jones...

5-0 now. Chicharito hat-trick on a penalty in the 90th
I wonder if Cuba feeling not so bad anymore, or just frightened.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Andre on June 06, 2011, 07:41:59 AM
licks from aside fro el salvador. cuba get 5 from CR too.

mex-el sal highlights - http://footballfashion.org/wordpress/2011/06/06/video-mexico-5-el-salvador-0-concacaf-gold-cup-2011-highlights/
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 06, 2011, 10:01:12 AM
Honestly, good thing we did not sneek in a qualifying spot.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Socapro on June 06, 2011, 10:04:33 AM
Honestly, good thing we did not sneek in a qualifying spot.

We not ready for that level yet, much less qualifying for World Cup!!

Pfister have he work cut out!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 06, 2011, 10:27:07 AM
CHICHARITOOOO

Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 06, 2011, 11:55:37 AM
big tournament and sum ppl watching man out fit?.. weys dah one dread...anyway Jamaica reaching finals in this one. JA taking this serious well the rest of teams playing joky football.  dem teams playing sum rell shit.. elsalvador play the most set a shit I ever see ...
war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 06, 2011, 07:18:42 PM
Jam - Grenada game on Galavision if you need some help sleeping.

I eh think Grenada make it past the 1/2 line yet
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 06, 2011, 07:53:04 PM
2-0 to JA  44min.How on earth did we loose to Grenada.Dat defence ain't good ATALL.Caribbean football standard is very low and extremely slow
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 06, 2011, 08:54:50 PM
Is not a real Gold Cup game if you can't score 4...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: socachynee on June 06, 2011, 09:04:24 PM
Is there a code in international football not to run up the score on your opponents?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: College on June 06, 2011, 09:11:22 PM
Jam 4th goal was world class
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: injunchile on June 06, 2011, 09:13:20 PM
How we lose to this Grenada team is beyond my wildest dreams.  Oh Well- Brazil here we come.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 06, 2011, 09:22:18 PM
why alyuh surprise TT did not qualify. Who in charge of football in TT?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 07, 2011, 12:42:06 AM
why alyuh surprise TT did not qualify. Who in charge of football in TT?
warner doh kick no ball.. ppl quick to blame coach and and director and selectors... .. we need to stop blame every body .. man up,  and realise we dont have any good footballers in we country anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!
everybody tun gunman now... I eh suprise we lost to grenada I suprise ppl in here still believe TNT going Brazil... PPl in here still lambassing Jamaica.. jamica football is 200 time at a higher level than TNT. Trinidad do not have a national team at the moment and it will take a very very very long time before we ever assemble 11 footballers .. and I mean footballers .... Man Up guys our team is not good any more. its not the coach , its not warner, its not manning , its no one is good enough to be what we use to have running on the field for us anymore .. our football stinks..

war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 07, 2011, 05:01:40 AM
Jam 4th goal was world class


goal of the tournament so far? 

all 4 goals here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQWdFrAdA7o&feature=related

Officials were asleep on that shot off the bar by Johnson. Ball crossed the line! FIFA, we need goal line technology.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Arazi on June 07, 2011, 06:45:27 AM
Jam 4th goal was world class


goal of the tournament so far? 

all 4 goals here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQWdFrAdA7o&feature=related

Officials were asleep on that shot off the bar by Johnson. Ball crossed the line! FIFA, we need goal line technology.

Can't front...that fourth goal was special, i watched Grenada yday and I am pissed we aren't in this tournament...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Socapro on June 07, 2011, 08:28:14 AM
Jam 4th goal was world class


goal of the tournament so far? 

all 4 goals here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQWdFrAdA7o&feature=related

Officials were asleep on that shot off the bar by Johnson. Ball crossed the line! FIFA, we need goal line technology.

Can't front...that fourth goal was special, i watched Grenada yday and I am pissed we aren't in this tournament...

Face reality!! We're not in this tournament because we weren't good enough to qualify!

A result of a coach who was playing the ass and players who he selected that were not good enough!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 07, 2011, 09:23:43 AM
Jam 4th goal was world class


goal of the tournament so far? 

all 4 goals here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQWdFrAdA7o&feature=related

Officials were asleep on that shot off the bar by Johnson. Ball crossed the line! FIFA, we need goal line technology.

regae fan good luck in this tournament .. I am backing JA to the fullest and although jealous not seeing TNT there I am convince I will see you guys in brazil.. Dat fourth goal was Reggae boyz football. I love it .. I love seeing  JA play .. Its entertaining football. Hoping to be in ja for one of the world cup qualifiers...

war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 07, 2011, 09:26:47 AM
Jam 4th goal was world class


goal of the tournament so far? 

all 4 goals here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQWdFrAdA7o&feature=related

Officials were asleep on that shot off the bar by Johnson. Ball crossed the line! FIFA, we need goal line technology.

Can't front...that fourth goal was special, i watched Grenada yday and I am pissed we aren't in this tournament...

Face reality!! We're not in this tournament because we weren't good enough to qualify!
A result of a coach who was playing the ass and players who he selected that were not good enough!


dais the best f**king comment I hear on this forum for di longest while.. man still in the strike squad days when we had a b team winning the shell cup wid ease..

war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Peong on June 07, 2011, 10:54:01 AM
Sweet goal.  Yesterday after sweat the Jamaicans were organizin a lime to go the games at FIU stadium.
I couldn't help but feel some pangs of jealousy.
If T&T qualified I coulda gone to the game. Steups.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kicker on June 07, 2011, 10:56:03 AM
Gold Cup is sh*t...we doh want nuttin' wid dat lol

 :D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Andre on June 07, 2011, 11:05:15 AM
that 4th JA goal was boss. they look like they run rampant over the spice boyz
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: weary1969 on June 07, 2011, 11:06:29 AM
U mean d competition strt ok.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: injunchile on June 07, 2011, 12:02:07 PM
Bad defending from Cuba and El Salvador. If your defence dont have speed how can the coach allow them to be so far up the field. Defence just ballwatching, the same with Grenada.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 07, 2011, 05:35:18 PM
Canada vs. the US on FSC now.  Good luck to Steve Hart and team Canada.

Well game was scheduled to start at 7:30... but I guess like all their programs that extra half an hour is for the studio show.  Check back at 8 pm.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: socachynee on June 07, 2011, 05:45:49 PM
Lets Go Canada
I hoping for a draw
Dwayne mash up the net
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 07, 2011, 05:48:04 PM
Guadeloupe vs Panama on Galavision.

Panama went ahead 3-0 in the 2nd half. Guadeloupe fight back to make it 3-2.

10 minutes to go...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: socachynee on June 07, 2011, 06:12:50 PM
nice defending Canada
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Socapro on June 07, 2011, 06:30:52 PM
nice defending Canada

Can you or anyone else please post the link you are using to view this game?
Thanks
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 07, 2011, 06:31:24 PM
1-0 US (Altidore '15)

Canadian goalie do real shit and let a ball go thru he hands ala Gomes.  Commentators trying all kinda way tuh give Jozy credit... oh he shoot it quick, he use defender as a screen, ball bouncing funny off de turf.  How about Hirshfeld juss do shit??
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Cocorite on June 07, 2011, 06:43:47 PM
1-0 US (Altidore '15)

Canadian goalie do real shit and let a ball go thru he hands ala Gomes.  Commentators trying all kinda way tuh give Jozy credit... oh he shoot it quick, he use defender as a screen, ball bouncing funny off de turf.  How about Hirshfeld juss do shit??

True talk dey Bakes. When will T&T learn to big up every little ting we do as opposed to being quick to find fault  ;)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: MEP on June 07, 2011, 07:23:56 PM
and dey didn't want Hart...Canada looks well organized
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 07, 2011, 07:30:32 PM
and dey didn't want Hart...Canada looks well organized

Yeah well they just organize another goal in dey tail dey.  To be fair, good play by Donovan to pla thru to Altidore who set up Dempsey on the back post, but that goal was long in the making.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Cocorite on June 07, 2011, 07:31:43 PM
They need a better Goalie
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: socachynee on June 07, 2011, 07:31:55 PM
nice defending Canada

Can you or anyone else please post the link you are using to view this game?
Thanks
http://www.concacaftv.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Home
you will need to create an account to view online
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 07, 2011, 07:38:54 PM
They need a better Goalie

That one ah more willing to give credit to the US for...keeper was kinda in no man's land because of where the pass was made and the run of the attacking players.  Seems to me he had to honor the fact that the player in the middle might have gotten to the pass.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: injunchile on June 07, 2011, 08:26:27 PM
Canada looked predictable in the first half. They came out fighting in the second, was faster to the ball and used the wings effectively. Howard came up big in the second half to deny Canada a point.
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Post by: Organic on June 09, 2011, 03:47:14 PM
just hear on bbc sports 5 mexican players tested postiive for a a banned substance
 including the keeper.
Title: Re: mexican players test positive
Post by: DeSoWa on June 09, 2011, 03:55:35 PM
The US really want to win this Gold Cup bad boy  :devil:

Big Up!
Title: Re: mexican players test positive
Post by: Trini Madness on June 09, 2011, 03:56:17 PM
The US really want to win this Gold Cup bad boy  :devil:

Big Up!

 :devil:
Title: Re: mexican players test positive
Post by: Organic on June 09, 2011, 03:57:50 PM
is the mexican football association which release that info
Title: Re: mexican players test positive
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 09, 2011, 04:05:52 PM
What dem fellas taking?  Maybe it's some local potion that they were unaware of.
Title: Re: mexican players test positive
Post by: DeSoWa on June 09, 2011, 04:07:35 PM
What dem fellas taking?  Maybe it's some local potion that they were unaware of.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13719472.stm

Five Mexico internationals have tested positive for the banned substance clenbuterol.

The players named are goalkeeper Guillermo Ochoa, defenders Francisco Rodriguez and Edgar Duenas and midfielders Antonio Naelson 'Sinha' and Christian Bermudez.

Mexico are currently taking part in Concacaf Gold Cup in the United States.

They beat El Salvador 5-0 in their opening match and face Cuba on Thursday in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Big Up!

Title: Re: mexican players test positive
Post by: soccerrama on June 09, 2011, 04:18:12 PM
http://www.concacaf.com/page/GoldCup/NewsDetail/0,,12813~2374171,00.html

By Ivan Orozco
 
CHARLOTTE, North Carolina - Mexico suspended five members of its national team Thursday after testing positive for a banned substance in a pre-tournament training camp, making them ineligible for their game against Cuba, a team spokesman said.
 
Antonio Naelson, Christian Bermudez, Edgar Duenas, Francisco Javier Rodriguez and goalkeeper Guillermo Ochoa all tested positive for clenbuterol, a drug used to treat breathing disorders, during the team's Mexico training camp in Mexico prior to the Gold Cup, team press officer Juan Jose Kotchen said Thursday at the team's hotel.

Because the five all tested positive for the same substance, it is believed the source was meat consumed during their time at training camp, Kotchen said.
 
Germany's anti-doping agency has issued a warning to its athletes about consuming meat in Mexico because of it being tainted with clenbuterol, sometimes spelled clembuterol, more than in China.
 
Kotchen said it has not been determined for how long the players will be suspended. The suspended players were to travel with the team to Bank of America Stadium for the match against Cuba.

CONCACAF General Secretary Chuck Blazer said a meeting of the confederation's national teams committee, which also serves as the organizing committee of the Gold Cup, will be convened Friday to consider the situation, including possibly allowing Mexico to replace the five players.
 

Title: Re: mexican players test positive
Post by: soccerman on June 09, 2011, 04:52:07 PM
So you can't eat a certain type of meat now if you're a world class athelete because it contains clenbuterol???? I wonder if those guys were aware of that or if it was an honest mistake?
Title: Re: mexican players test positive
Post by: Deeks on June 09, 2011, 05:00:24 PM
They eat meat??? Wait,  them 5  went looking for that meat so that they can get an edge. How the rest of the squad did not eat the meat. This is too fishy for me. 
Title: Re: mexican players test positive
Post by: Trinimassive on June 09, 2011, 05:02:50 PM
Dias why they could run around all day  :devil:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 09, 2011, 05:25:10 PM
I am getting not available in the area. Any other sites!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 09, 2011, 05:50:37 PM
I am gettin
g not available in the area. Any other sites!!!!


Don't know where you are located but try the Spanish stations on your carrier for the game.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 09, 2011, 06:44:09 PM
Oh right this.... :yawning: :yawning:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 09, 2011, 06:59:51 PM
5 Mexicans tested positive for drugs and blamed it on contamainated chicken! I guess Toure's wife and her diet pills were not available or may be she ran out of pills?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 09, 2011, 07:05:04 PM
This officiating team doh like Costa Rica atall.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 09, 2011, 07:22:25 PM
any links for the games?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 09, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
this contcacaf link sucks!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 09, 2011, 07:31:27 PM
ent?   I just sign up for nuttin.   >:(
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 09, 2011, 07:34:11 PM
For the umpteenth time:

http://myp2p.eu

http://www.streamhunter.tv/

http://atdhe.tv/

http://atdhenet.tv/

and for good measure: http://www.hitcric.info/

Bookmarks, they work!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 09, 2011, 07:37:45 PM
thanks....for the 1st time.   ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 09, 2011, 07:41:41 PM
The Cuba - Mexico game is on Univision if you get the channel. You could also search CONCACAF on the tv guide, or maybe use google...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 09, 2011, 07:42:27 PM
Sigh!!! When will i see the Red, white and Black again.  Spann busting the net from 35 yards out.  
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 09, 2011, 07:42:48 PM
With regards to the game. Cuba not looking too secure right now. This could be a long, long night.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 09, 2011, 08:08:06 PM
justin.tv working for me!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 09, 2011, 08:15:11 PM
Mexico finally stop playing the ass and score.
1-0!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 09, 2011, 09:05:59 PM
4-0 now.
Cuba good for how much? 6? 7?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Socapro on June 09, 2011, 09:15:56 PM
Its now Cuba 0 - 5 Mexico;

And this is the same Cuban team that gave us so much trouble when we played them in the qualifiers!! 

I say lucky thing we not there, we would have probably gotten a similar amount from a top CONCACAF team like Mexico! :-[
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 09, 2011, 10:01:25 PM
I cyah say lucky or not. You get better by playing better teams (and learning from them)

Right now you have 3 tiers of teams in this competition.
USA and Mexico, The rest of Central America and then the CFU. We'll find out the truth about Jamaica tomorrow.

Even though we upset that T&T not there. This is a huge boost to teams like Grenada.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 09, 2011, 11:00:06 PM
Five Mexico players test positiveJune 9, 2011
By ESPNsoccernet staff

Mexico's hopes of winning the CONCACAF Gold Cup have been smashed by the news that no less than five of their players have tested positive for a banned substance and have been withdrawn from their national team's squad.


Francisco Javier Rodriguez, Antonio Naelson, Christian Bermudez, Edgar Duenas, and Guillermo Ochoa have all been found to have Clenbuterol in their systems. The drug treats breathing disorders and is a regularly-used drug by dopers. The Mexican federation state that that the players consumed chicken that was tainted with the drug and will request that the team be allowed to field replacement players for the rest of the Gold Cup.

The players face being banned for a year if they cannot prove that the substance was taken accidentally. Leading cyclist Alberto Contador is currently mounting a defence against a ban by claiming his positive test for the same substance resulted from eating contaminated meat.

Ochoa is Mexico's starting goalkeeper and the Mexican federation have asked if they can add replacement players to their squad.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 10, 2011, 03:45:54 AM
I cyah say lucky or not. You get better by playing better teams (and learning from them)

Right now you have 3 tiers of teams in this competition.
USA and Mexico, The rest of Central America and then the CFU. We'll find out the truth about Jamaica tomorrow.

Even though we upset that T&T not there. This is a huge boost to teams like Grenada.

Jamaica a tier three team? Check out Jamaicas recent run against Guatemala and El Salvador. These are two teams who wilt and self destruct 90% of the time when they step onto the field with Jamaica.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 10, 2011, 05:54:06 AM
I cyah say lucky or not. You get better by playing better teams (and learning from them)

Right now you have 3 tiers of teams in this competition.
USA and Mexico, The rest of Central America and then the CFU. We'll find out the truth about Jamaica tomorrow.

Even though we upset that T&T not there. This is a huge boost to teams like Grenada.

Jamaica a tier three team? Check out Jamaicas recent run against Guatemala and El Salvador. These are two teams who wilt and self destruct 90% of the time when they step onto the field with Jamaica.

Yuh cyah read or what?

We'll find out the truth about Jamaica tomorrow.

Beating Grenada is no measure of where you are right now. After you beat Guatemala, we will know.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: MEP on June 10, 2011, 09:21:16 AM
Sigh!!! When will i see the Red, white and Black again.  Spann busting the net from 35 yards out.  

want to borrow a dvd?????...cause that might be the only way to see them play at a high level for the next 5 years or so
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: jamaica2099 on June 10, 2011, 09:38:07 AM
I cyah say lucky or not. You get better by playing better teams (and learning from them)

Right now you have 3 tiers of teams in this competition.
USA and Mexico, The rest of Central America and then the CFU. We'll find out the truth about Jamaica tomorrow.

Even though we upset that T&T not there. This is a huge boost to teams like Grenada.

Jamaica a tier three team? Check out Jamaicas recent run against Guatemala and El Salvador. These are two teams who wilt and self destruct 90% of the time when they step onto the field with Jamaica.

Yuh cyah read or what?

We'll find out the truth about Jamaica tomorrow.

Beating Grenada is no measure of where you are right now. After you beat Guatemala, we will know.

Reggaefan, Bitter is right. It's not like he wants to believe the same about Jamaica vs T&T either.

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/statisticsandrecords/headtohead/team1=jam/team2=tri/index.html

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/statisticsandrecords/headtohead/team1=jam/team2=gua/index.html

Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Reggaefan on June 10, 2011, 01:33:25 PM
Beating Grenada is no measure of where you are right now. After you beat Guatemala, we will know.

Last time Jamaica face Guatemala in a Gold Cup game Jamaica scored 4 goals in a winning effort. Last time Jamaica faced El Sal in a gold cup game, the boyz came out the winners. I see nothing in these teams t osuggest thay have improved that much for me to think that Jamaica cant handle them.

Grenada is not a good measure of Jamaica's prowess...but they played a good game away to Panama the other day holding them to a 2-0 scoreline in Panama city. If you consider that Jamaica could have scored six easily on Grenada, it gives yo a good picture of where Ja is at the moment. Jamaica also just scored 3 on El Salvador in San Salvador couple months ago with a weaker team than we have at the gold cup today.

I'm sure also that with a full strength T&T squad, you can handle both El Sal and guatemala. They wilt when they see physically imposing players...which is one of the reason why Honduras has done so well in Central america in recent years...they have the physical attributes and speed that most other central american teams fear.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: MEP on June 10, 2011, 01:35:08 PM
Flex Tallman..... can't you'll do something about the rodent infestation????????
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 10, 2011, 04:56:58 PM
Flex Tallman..... can't you'll do something about the rodent infestation????????

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 10, 2011, 06:42:02 PM
JA tearing into Guatemala.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: jahkingdom on June 10, 2011, 07:01:06 PM
now we can rest some players against Honduras. 8)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 10, 2011, 07:03:00 PM
congrats to JA is one of the best games I ever see them play,total control.Dey string some passes during a stretch in de second half that almost resulted in a goal,it was more than we have done in 3 yrs put togehter.However de top teams not going to give them dat much time to control but I wish dem de best,fly de Caribbean flag high because dem North Americans feel dey controlling everything now.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 10, 2011, 07:11:22 PM
Good work Jamaica. Allyuh in the 2nd tier in true  ;D

I frighten for Grenada now though...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Socapro on June 10, 2011, 07:12:38 PM
congrats to JA is one of the best games I ever see them play,total control.Dey string some passes during a stretch in de second half that almost resulted in a goal,it was more than we have done in 3 yrs put togehter.However de top teams not going to give them dat much time to control but I wish dem de best,fly de Caribbean flag high because dem North Americans feel dey controlling everything now.

 :beermug:

What was the final result?! Sorry but I don't watch Ja games unless its a game against my team!   8)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: fari on June 10, 2011, 07:18:27 PM
los spice boys...don't know if that sound too right :-[
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: fari on June 10, 2011, 07:24:44 PM
cuba mexico goles aqui:

http://forum.rojadirecta.es/showthread.php?127449
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 10, 2011, 07:29:04 PM
Grenada!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 10, 2011, 07:30:08 PM
Gol! Granada
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 10, 2011, 07:30:34 PM
los spice boys...don't know if that sound too right :-[

Like I said below...Jamaica is Guatemala daddy. They did well to frustrate Jamaica in the frst half, but it was only a matter of time before they begin to self destruct. The typical Central American teams runs at you hard in the early goings, thats where they typically win (or lose) their games.  Now Grenada out-muscles Honduras and scores 1-0 Spice boyz.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 10, 2011, 07:33:19 PM
Gol! Granada

Dey still playing shIt just out hustling Honduras right now.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 10, 2011, 07:38:28 PM
Hard luck dey Grenada. It was good while it lasted.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 10, 2011, 07:38:41 PM
2-1 shitty defence.  
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 10, 2011, 07:40:18 PM
2-1 shitty defence.  

They let ah man with a jheri curl score on them.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 10, 2011, 07:41:05 PM
congrats to JA is one of the best games I ever see them play,total control.Dey string some passes during a stretch in de second half that almost resulted in a goal,it was more than we have done in 3 yrs put togehter.However de top teams not going to give them dat much time to control but I wish dem de best,fly de Caribbean flag high because dem North Americans feel dey controlling everything now.

 :beermug:

What was the final result?! Sorry but I don't watch Ja games unless its a game against my team!   8)



2-0 JA
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 10, 2011, 07:49:28 PM
3-1 Honduras still first half.At dis rate next Gold Cup may only have 2 teams from de caribbean now dat de Godfather won't be there.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Spursy on June 10, 2011, 07:57:54 PM
Anyone seen Grenada Coach? Omg how did we lose to this team?? How... I see Grenada striker (the big one) out of breath 10 minutes in.. You can't be serious... Atleast the commentators suck and not calling up we name.. imagine if a good commentator was in this match lord.. Grenada beat tnt to get here! I would die.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 10, 2011, 07:58:42 PM
2-1 shitty defence.  

They let ah man with a jheri curl score on them.

Didn't that jheri curl man sink TT a couple WC ago?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 10, 2011, 08:00:46 PM
Anyone seen Grenada Coach? Omg how did we lose to this team?? How... I see Grenada striker (the big one) out of breath 10 minutes in.. You can't be serious... Atleast the commentators suck and not calling up we name.. imagine if a good commentator was in this match lord.. Grenada beat tnt to get here! I would die.

Omg how did we lose to this team??

because we suck!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 10, 2011, 08:01:29 PM
Anyone seen Grenada Coach? Omg how did we lose to this team?? How... I see Grenada striker (the big one) out of breath 10 minutes in.. You can't be serious... Atleast the commentators suck and not calling up we name.. imagine if a good commentator was in this match lord.. Grenada beat tnt to get here! I would die.

is not de same coach who beat we.Dey fire him because dey find de score was to close.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 10, 2011, 08:16:15 PM
Some of allyuh need to pass by Trevor Sayers for some worm grass. We ent make the GC. Get over it and enjoy the games you watching now.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 10, 2011, 08:18:13 PM
congrats to JA is one of the best games I ever see them play,total control.Dey string some passes during a stretch in de second half that almost resulted in a goal,it was more than we have done in 3 yrs put togehter.However de top teams not going to give them dat much time to control but I wish dem de best,fly de Caribbean flag high because dem North Americans feel dey controlling everything now.

Didn't like the game much, low level quality from both teams, just that JA win, which is also good. Either team will get killed by USA and Mexico, hell even Canada will cause each loads of problem. Both teams Central presence is very lacking.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 10, 2011, 08:27:48 PM
congrats to JA is one of the best games I ever see them play,total control.Dey string some passes during a stretch in de second half that almost resulted in a goal,it was more than we have done in 3 yrs put togehter.However de top teams not going to give them dat much time to control but I wish dem de best,fly de Caribbean flag high because dem North Americans feel dey controlling everything now.

Didn't like the game much, low level quality from both teams, just that JA win, which is also good. Either team will get killed by USA and Mexico, hell even Canada will cause each loads of problem. Both teams Central presence is very lacking.

I am confident Jamaica can handle Canada....away from home though, I dont see us getting anything from the USA or Mexico. Against Costa Rica...anything can happen...so to Honduras and Panama.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Tallman on June 10, 2011, 08:28:08 PM
2-1 shitty defence.  

They let ah man with a jheri curl score on them.

Didn't that jheri curl man sink TT a couple WC ago?

Nah, you thinking about Carlos Pavon.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 10, 2011, 08:41:36 PM
5-1 now friggin embarrassing
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Spursy on June 10, 2011, 08:54:22 PM
rite now Honduras rel banging up Grenada keeper boy weys  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

ent they want gold cup spot  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

ah dying here  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


that grenada coach  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

latapy boy  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 10, 2011, 08:59:09 PM
Greneda is de worst team I ever see play in de Gold Cup.Latapy must NEVER coach Trinidad again !!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Tallman on June 10, 2011, 08:59:53 PM
5-1 now friggin embarrassing

we eh too backward yuh know. Honduras did cut we ass 4-1 in de last World Cup qualifiers.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 10, 2011, 09:00:18 PM
rite now Honduras rel banging up Grenada keeper boy weys  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

ent they want gold cup spot  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

ah dying here  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


that grenada coach  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

latapy boy  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I assume you laughing at TT, also. They beat WE!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 10, 2011, 09:01:43 PM
Honduras real throwing away, this game coulda be 12-1 easy. And they real liking theyself after they score. Notice the coach doh look impressed at all, he know. Allyuh ent do nutten there.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: jahkingdom on June 10, 2011, 09:02:56 PM
laaaaaawd! :-X
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 10, 2011, 09:04:19 PM
7-1 final score.What a load a shIt.If SouthEnd cyar beat dem I ain't know what again to say.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Spursy on June 10, 2011, 09:04:36 PM
 
Quote

I assume you laughing at TT, also. They beat WE!!!!!!
hoss they hold 7, tnt with latapy would of hold twice that amount, point is if that was tnt getting 7, i would still laugh my ass off. if tnt had a retarded looking coach like that, i would still laugh my ass off, and the fact that we lost to that team is sad but guess what, i still laughing my ass off ...

let me have this moment ok. thx. :)


ps: weys boy long time me eh see a team get tear up like that! and at this level .. i love it. and that honduras coach still looking pissed :)

That youngster bankston is a nice player, i enjoy watching him. keep your eye on that kid, didnt make a big deal of it when he scored, was very cool and collected, took him time, nice dummie to set up costly, and nice couple goals. he was the only shiney light in the honduran camp in my eyes.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 10, 2011, 09:10:25 PM
7-1 final score.What a load a shIt.If SouthEnd cyar beat dem I ain't know what again to say.

Which intercol?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 10, 2011, 09:13:47 PM
7-1 final score.What a load a shIt.If SouthEnd cyar beat dem I ain't know what again to say.

Which intercol?

In hindsight it even insulting intercol, dey playing ah off side trap from half line........ Giants (Under 14)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 10, 2011, 09:28:08 PM
This Grenada team is mostly amateur/parttimers, so what must we expect.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Spursy on June 10, 2011, 10:04:22 PM



I assume you laughing at TT, also. They beat WE!!!!!!
no dem beat Latapy F.C
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 11, 2011, 12:08:06 AM
Jamaica is playing marvelous football . I  lookingfoward to seeing the JA Honduras clash. Jamaica reaching finals and possibly winning it all.. go reggae boyz .. keep the caribbean flag flying high.. I watch the second half and I could swear I saw JA strang about 30 passes together before guatemala even got close to the ball. Am jealous but gave jack he jacket.. good going boyz I wid you on this one....

war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 11, 2011, 03:41:43 AM
Greneda is de worst team I ever see play in de Gold Cup.Latapy must NEVER coach Trinidad again !!!!!!!!!!

Give Grenada some credit. They played a good opening 20 minutes. Honduras is a quality team. Grenada's problem is that their defence lacks composure. They remind me of where Jamaica were 15 years ago in terms of defensive organization. Jamaica will do well to avoid defeat against Honduras. They are the only central america team right now that have players with the physical tools to counter Jamaicas style of play.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 11, 2011, 05:37:20 AM
Sweet pass over the top for the first goal by the little #18 from Jamaica...glimpses of Russel Latpy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvIOGerNhDQ&feature=related
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Jayerson on June 11, 2011, 06:14:22 AM
This Guadelupe team has a good fighting spirit. Also... :-[ congrats to Jamaica. That was a commanding 2nd half in particular. Anything less than a semi-final spot with this team should be considered a failure. There is genuine talent in this squad. Definite change from the more pyhsical approach Jam used to use in the late 90s and 2000s.

Side note, Chicharito on his way to destroying Concacaf. 5 goals in 2 games.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 11, 2011, 06:20:25 AM
This Guadelupe team has a good fighting spirit. Also... :-[ congrats to Jamaica. That was a commanding 2nd half in particular. Anything less than a semi-final spot with this team should be considered a failure. There is genuine talent in this squad. Definite change from the more pyhsical approach Jam used to use in the late 90s and 2000s.

Side note, Chicharito on his way to destroying Concacaf. 5 goals in 2 games.

The thing about Guadeloupe is that the majority of their players play in the French lower divisions.  Thats why they typically do better than the average caribbean team in the Gold cup tourney.


Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Jayerson on June 11, 2011, 06:35:03 AM
This Guadelupe team has a good fighting spirit. Also... :-[ congrats to Jamaica. That was a commanding 2nd half in particular. Anything less than a semi-final spot with this team should be considered a failure. There is genuine talent in this squad. Definite change from the more pyhsical approach Jam used to use in the late 90s and 2000s.

Side note, Chicharito on his way to destroying Concacaf. 5 goals in 2 games.

The thing about Guadeloupe is that the majority of their players play in the French lower divisions.  Thats why they typically do better than the average caribbean team in the Gold cup tourney.




Yeah its a pity they can't compete in WC qualifiers. They're a good team.  Good understanding of the game and decent technical ability.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: jamaica2099 on June 11, 2011, 06:45:33 AM
congrats to JA is one of the best games I ever see them play,total control.Dey string some passes during a stretch in de second half that almost resulted in a goal,it was more than we have done in 3 yrs put togehter.However de top teams not going to give them dat much time to control but I wish dem de best,fly de Caribbean flag high because dem North Americans feel dey controlling everything now.

Didn't like the game much, low level quality from both teams, just that JA win, which is also good. Either team will get killed by USA and Mexico, hell even Canada will cause each loads of problem. Both teams Central presence is very lacking.
The Guatemalans plan was to play the rough physical game which threw off Jamaica's style of play in the first half. Eventually the Reggae Boyz started to play which led to the dominating performance leading to the goals and a Jamaica win.


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sports/Red-hot-Boyz_8995594
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Andre on June 11, 2011, 08:01:57 AM
dem grenadian player sounding kinda english yes.

http://youtu.be/oNtwEcSdUZY
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: theworm2345 on June 11, 2011, 08:42:19 AM
dem grenadian player sounding kinda english yes.

http://youtu.be/oNtwEcSdUZY
The two players (except the one with a couple words at the end) they interviewed are English
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Toussaint on June 11, 2011, 09:07:33 AM
That was embarrassing. Without Warner, I can see Central America stealing one more spot from CFU. Cuba is a huge disappointment. Grenada is even worse.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: RehanaOmardeenfan on June 11, 2011, 09:26:37 AM
Grenada had a fat man on they team :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


He was playing striker too...looked almost like Ronaldo last game out there :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: royal on June 11, 2011, 09:55:05 AM
Grenada had a fat man on they team :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


He was playing striker too...looked almost like Ronaldo last game out there :devil: :devil:



he look like dey bring him out ah retirement from some fete match side.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: #4 on June 11, 2011, 10:04:28 AM
Jamaica is playing marvelous football . I  lookingfoward to seeing the JA Honduras clash. Jamaica reaching finals and possibly winning it all.. go reggae boyz .. keep the caribbean flag flying high.. I watch the second half and I could swear I saw JA strang about 30 passes together before guatemala even got close to the ball. Am jealous but gave jack he jacket.. good going boyz I wid you on this one....

war

I was at the game and trust me- by that time, Guatemala and their supporters had all but given up on the game- which I didn't understand, because at that point they were only down 2-0 with over 10 mins left. The thing that shocked me about JA was the discipline exhibited by the team- they could have played like a typical Caribbean side and tried to only boom-kick and out-athleticize GUA the whole way through, or they could have tried to add the typical agressive physical element all the way through like you'd expect from JA, but instead played a refined "short pass, short through-ball" game that will see them go far in this tournament. Kudos to their coach for that.

As for Grenada- they could have actually stayed in the game if they had learned to defend the flanks. The only time they were in the game was he first 25 mins or so when the Honduran midfielders weren't moving outside at all. Costly is slow like molasses with only a left foot- Honduras is missing the likes of Pavon and Suazo bad. Also, the short dreadlocks guy who subbed in for Honduras is a cut above the rest of his team- I'm going to keep an eye on him in time to come.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 11, 2011, 11:10:32 AM
That was embarrassing. Without Warner, I can see Central America stealing one more spot from CFU. Cuba is a huge disappointment. Grenada is even worse.

You really believe that the likes of Belize and Nicaragua are better than T&T, Haiti, Cuba, Martinique etc? I would bet on Grenada beating any of those two central american teams. Cuba is probably better if matched with El Salvador or Guatemala...but definately way ahead of teams like Belize and Nicaragua
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: injunchile on June 11, 2011, 12:05:29 PM
Cuba is a decent team. Had they taken their chances in the first half against Mexico and not given so much space to the wingers and unmarked for most of the game, the scoreline would have been different.
 I think we need friendlies against CUBa and El salvador before we move up the playing ladder
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: theworm2345 on June 11, 2011, 12:35:15 PM
Grenada had a fat man on they team :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


He was playing striker too...looked almost like Ronaldo last game out there :devil: :devil:



he look like dey bring him out ah retirement from some fete match side.
Thats Facey, he has played for Bolton in the EPL, set up Grenada's goal and also hit the post later in the match.  He gave T&T quite a bit of trouble in the air and holding the ball up in the Caribbean Cup as well.  You may say fat but he is strong as an ox and the Spanish commentators were calling him the tank and saying he should play football at FIU (thats where they were playing).  He also has a grandparent from T&T.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Toussaint on June 11, 2011, 04:43:07 PM
This link is better than the CONCACAF one: http://futbol.univision.com/copa-oro/partidos-en-vivo/

No need to register.

Canada is dominating Gwada. But, game is still 0-0, just past 30 minutes.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on June 11, 2011, 06:30:50 PM
Fútbol 1, sahker 0.

Panama scores in the 20th minute.

Edit:

USA concedes a penalty. Panama scores.

Panama 2 USA 0
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: MEP on June 11, 2011, 06:46:40 PM
Like Chuck really piss Uncle Jack off
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: fari on June 11, 2011, 06:54:45 PM
panama knockin a nice brand but their crossing ent too hot at times
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on June 11, 2011, 07:05:54 PM
panama knockin a nice brand but their crossing ent too hot at times

Agreed. Also, some of their final passes leave a lot to be desired. In defence, they have been lucky not to concede some free kicks in some very dangerous positions. The defenders must time their tackles better.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 11, 2011, 07:33:27 PM
Ref having a very good game.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on June 11, 2011, 07:41:59 PM
Panama looking like they going to concede again
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Andre on June 11, 2011, 08:42:45 PM
panama 2 - usa 1 final score.

them tallman looking good for a 2014 qualification run

Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 11, 2011, 09:18:20 PM
panama 2 - usa 1 final score.

them tallman looking good for a 2014 qualification run



Dont forget that Panama played in the Gold Cup final a couple years ago. Very athletic, physically sound players, not like the typical central americans (guate, El Sal)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: injunchile on June 12, 2011, 03:43:47 AM
Panama captain was BOSS in that game. They showed how to beat USA- pressure the ball and fast counterattack. Then again one has to be fit to run for 90+ minutes. Speed is the name of the game in this era.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 12, 2011, 09:56:49 AM
The travel for this tournament is tough. None of the teams have a home base, is basically a cross country nomadic trek.
Group A
June 05 Dallas
June 09 Charlotte
June 12 Chicago

Group B
June 06 LA
June 10 Miami
June 13 NY

Group C
June 07 Detroit
June 11 Tampa
June 14 Kansas City

Quarterfinals
June 18 NY
June 19 DC

Semi-Finals
June 22 Houston

Final
June 25 Final

Group A (e.g. Jamaica): LA, Miami, NY, DC, Houston, Pasadena
Group B (e.g. Mexico) : Dallas, Charlotte, Chicago, NY,  Houston, Pasadena
Group C (e.g. USA): Detroit, Tampa, KC, DC, Houston, Pasadena

Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 12, 2011, 01:12:39 PM
 The MNT Blog
News and Notes on the U.S. Men's National Team  
Posted by ussoccer at 6/12/2011 10:04 AM CDT
 


Here's a look at the scenarios the U.S. team faces heading into Tuesday's match with Guadeloupe. The bottom line is that a win in Kansas City, Kan., will clinch a top-two place in the group for the U.S.

The U.S. has the advantage of playing the last game of the CONCACAF Gold Cup group stage and will know exactly what is needed to advance. The best chance for the U.S. to win the group would be a Canada win against Panama by one or two goals, however, a 3-0 win for Canada also provides for scenarios in which the U.S. could advance.

GROUP C STANDINGS
Team   GP   W   L    T    GF  GA   GD   Pts.
PAN       2    2    0    0    5    3    +2    6
USA       2    1    1    0    3    2    +1    3
CAN       2    1    1    0    1    2    -1    3
GPE       2    0    2    0    2    4    -2    0

TIEBREAKERS
At the end of group play, if two or more teams are equal on points (including ties among third place teams), the manner in which teams will advance to the next round will be resolved as follows and in the order indicated:

a. Greater number of points in matches between the tied teams.
b. Greater Goal Difference in matches between the tied teams (if more than two teams finish equal on points).
c. Greater number of goals scored in matches among the tied teams (if more than two teams finish equal on points).
d. Greater Goal Difference in all group matches.
e. Greater number of goals scored in all group matches.
f. Drawing of lots.

U.S. SCENARIOS

IF PANAMA BEATS CANADA ...

and the U.S. wins, the U.S. advances in second place.
and the U.S. ties, the U.S. advances in second place.
and the U.S. loses by one goal, the U.S. advances in second place.
and the U.S. loses by two or three goals, the U.S. finishes in third place with three points*
and the U.S. loses by four or more goals, the U.S. finishes in fourth place
IF PANAMA AND CANADA TIE ..
and the U.S. wins, the U.S. advances in second place.
and the U.S. ties, the U.S. advances in second place. (tiebreaker: head to head vs Canada)
If Panama ties and the U.S. loses, the U.S. will finish in fourth place. (tiebreaker: head to head vs Guadeloupe)
IF CANADA BEATS PANAMA ...
by one or two goals and the U.S. wins, the U.S. wins the group.
3-0 and the U.S. wins by one or more scoring at least 2, the U.S. will advance in first place.
3-0 and the U.S. wins 1-0, there will be a drawing of lots to determine first or second place.
by three goals, scoring four or more, and the U.S. wins, the U.S. will advance in second place.
by four goals and the U.S. wins, the U.S. advances in second place.
and the U.S. ties, the U.S. will finish in third place with four points**
and the U.S. loses, the U.S. will finish in fourth place.
 

THIRD PLACE SCENARIOS
(Note: Will be updated daily based on Group A and B results).

* If the U.S. were to advance as a third-place team with three points, one of the following must happen:
Either El Salvador-Cuba or Guatemala-Greneda end in a tie
Either Cuba or Greneda win with a margin of victory that when added to the U.S. margin of defeat is less than 10

** If the U.S. were to advance as a third-place team with four points, one of the following must happen:
Either El Salvador-Cuba or Guatemala-Greneda end in a tie
Either Cuba or Greneda win
Either El Salvador wins by five or fewer goals OR Guatemala wins by two or fewer goals.


Note: There are additional scenarios based on goals scored should El Salvador (-5, 1 GS), Guatemala (-2, 0 GS) and the U.S. (+1, 3 GS) all finish with four points and a +1 goal difference.
 
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 12, 2011, 01:28:52 PM
The likely scenario here is that the USA will win its game, Panama will tie or beat Canada. USA finsishes second, Panama finishes top, Canada is eliminated.

Second place finisher from the USA group will face the top team from Jamaica's group...as of this moment, Jmaica needs only a tie vs Honduras to finish top. That puts Jamaica on a colision course with the Yanks. I believe they are the team Jamaica would have wanted to avoid more than any one else in the quarter finals.

In other words, there is no real incentive for Jamaica and Honduras to go all out to win their group.

On the flip side, this USA team is obvioulsy not as strong as teams of te past..Panama exposed their weaknesses for all to see. Now would be a good time to take them on and knock them out of the tournament early in their own back-yards. Although Im certain that officials have already been briefed to ensure that teh usa gets fee passage to the final from here on in.  :-\
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 12, 2011, 01:40:11 PM
The likely scenario here is that the USA will win its game, Panama will tie or beat Canada. USA finsishes second, Panama finishes top, Canada is eliminated.

Second place finisher from the USA group will face the top team from Jamaica's group...as of this moment, Jmaica needs only a tie vs Honduras to finish top. That puts Jamaica on a colision course with the Yanks. I believe they are the team Jamaica would have wanted o avoid than any one lese in the quarter finals.

In other words, there is no incentive for Jamaica and Honduras to go all out to win the group.

On the flip side, this USA team is obvioulsy not as strong as teams of te past..Panama exposed their weknesses for all to see. Now would be a good time to take them on and knock them out of the tournament early.


Who the USA missing to not be as strong? This is basically the best team the USA can field at any competition. 

Howard   
Bocanegra     
Goodson     
Cherundolo   
Ream   
Dempsey   
Jones     
Bradley   
Donovan   
Altidore     
Agudelo     
Bradley 

Maybe Onyewu, Fielhaber (still a squad player).

Just like the Women's team the US Men's seems to be struggling to find quality players that can replace aging players. As it stands who can replace Dempsey and Donovan?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: jamaica98 on June 12, 2011, 02:56:31 PM
The likely scenario here is that the USA will win its game, Panama will tie or beat Canada. USA finsishes second, Panama finishes top, Canada is eliminated.

Second place finisher from the USA group will face the top team from Jamaica's group...as of this moment, Jmaica needs only a tie vs Honduras to finish top. That puts Jamaica on a colision course with the Yanks. I believe they are the team Jamaica would have wanted o avoid than any one lese in the quarter finals.

In other words, there is no incentive for Jamaica and Honduras to go all out to win the group.

On the flip side, this USA team is obvioulsy not as strong as teams of te past..Panama exposed their weknesses for all to see. Now would be a good time to take them on and knock them out of the tournament early.


Who the USA missing to not be as strong? This is basically the best team the USA can field at any competition. 

Howard   
Bocanegra     
Goodson     
Cherundolo   
Ream   
Dempsey   
Jones     
Bradley   
Donovan   
Altidore     
Agudelo     
Bradley 

Maybe Onyewu, Fielhaber (still a squad player).

Just like the Women's team the US Men's seems to be struggling to find quality players that can replace aging players. As it stands who can replace Dempsey and Donovan?

He did not say they did not have their best team out there....he is comparing this squad to squads of years gone by.....
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 12, 2011, 03:57:58 PM
The likely scenario here is that the USA will win its game, Panama will tie or beat Canada. USA finsishes second, Panama finishes top, Canada is eliminated.

Second place finisher from the USA group will face the top team from Jamaica's group...as of this moment, Jmaica needs only a tie vs Honduras to finish top. That puts Jamaica on a colision course with the Yanks. I believe they are the team Jamaica would have wanted o avoid than any one lese in the quarter finals.

In other words, there is no incentive for Jamaica and Honduras to go all out to win the group.

On the flip side, this USA team is obvioulsy not as strong as teams of te past..Panama exposed their weknesses for all to see. Now would be a good time to take them on and knock them out of the tournament early.


Who the USA missing to not be as strong? This is basically the best team the USA can field at any competition. 

Howard   
Bocanegra     
Goodson     
Cherundolo   
Ream   
Dempsey   
Jones     
Bradley   
Donovan   
Altidore     
Agudelo     
Bradley 

Maybe Onyewu, Fielhaber (still a squad player).

Just like the Women's team the US Men's seems to be struggling to find quality players that can replace aging players. As it stands who can replace Dempsey and Donovan?

He did not say they did not have their best team out there....he is comparing this squad to squads of years gone by.....

Years gone by when? That's what I am saying.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 12, 2011, 06:30:06 PM
The US team ain't strong talk, cyah hold water.  Nonetheless, I watched the replays and it seemed like the USA missed many many opportunities.  So the victory maybe a bit out of perspective.  Granted I did not see the game.  all the best to Panama though any win against the favorites is good.  Plus, Jamrock ain't fraid no US.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 12, 2011, 06:32:47 PM
I turn to the NBA game for 5 minutes and come back is 2-0 Mexico. When all that happen?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 12, 2011, 06:50:07 PM
4-0 38 minutes gone.
Costa Rica mission now is to not get embarrassed.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 12, 2011, 06:52:37 PM
4-0 38 minutes gone.
Costa Rica mission now is to not get embarrassed.

Too late for that one
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 12, 2011, 06:58:03 PM
Who the USA missing to not be as strong? This is basically the best team the USA can field at any competition. 

Yes, looks like they have all their choice players...but what I'm saying is that they appear to be a step behind what you would expect of them. Truth be told, they were not impressive vs Canada, and far from impressive vs Panama (credit to Panama).  I suspect they will bounce back and hammer Guadeloupe in ther final group stage game, but that would have been expected. Still, they remain form favoriets with Mexico to lif the title.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 12, 2011, 07:49:08 PM
I think the players with the players in the USA side you know what you are getting and you get only so much. I think their core players have peeked already as players.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 12, 2011, 08:05:20 PM
Best game I've seen in a while, very exciting very open.  You think T&T could do that amount of running to try to bring the game back?  End to end stuff
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Andre DosSantos on June 12, 2011, 08:13:59 PM
Best game I've seen in a while, very exciting very open.  You think T&T could do that amount of running to try to bring the game back?  End to end stuff

No we got too damn lazy and don't play with desire and fire any more.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 12, 2011, 09:25:21 PM
stadium ram f**king pack.. game star.. game star.. worm I will a buy a ticket fi yu.. I tell yu something right now.. no stadium could rock like soldier field ......I love it..... anyway after watching theese games am convince and will bett 100.00 bucks on it.. USA.. mexico.. and jamaica ..  going to  brazil..
war

Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 12, 2011, 09:35:51 PM
cuba look decent in d second half.. one bad call cost cuba the game.. elsalvador should have been down to ten man but di blind lines man eh see nothing and it was instead a goal..

war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: maxg on June 12, 2011, 09:39:19 PM
Grenada had a fat man on they team :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


He was playing striker too...looked almost like Ronaldo last game out there :devil: :devil:



he look like dey bring him out ah retirement from some fete match side.
Thats Facey, he has played for Bolton in the EPL, set up Grenada's goal and also hit the post later in the match.  He gave T&T quite a bit of trouble in the air and holding the ball up in the Caribbean Cup as well.  You may say fat but he is strong as an ox and the Spanish commentators were calling him the tank and saying he should play football at FIU (thats where they were playing).  He also has a grandparent from T&T.
Why is Shalarie Joseph not on the team, and why did they release the coach, Simpson, who help get the team there ?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: theworm2345 on June 13, 2011, 12:09:10 AM
stadium ram f**king pack.. game star.. game star.. worm I will a buy a ticket fi yu.. I tell yu something right now.. no stadium could rock like soldier field ......I love it..... anyway after watching theese games am convince and will bett 100.00 bucks on it.. USA.. mexico.. and jamaica ..  going to  brazil..
war


Thanks war but I had to be in California all of Sunday for my brothers graduation...sounds like you had a good time at the games though.

Why is Shalarie Joseph not on the team, and why did they release the coach, Simpson, who help get the team there ?

Joseph basically said his club is more important to him thats why he's not playing.  I don't know why they replaced their coach.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 13, 2011, 04:30:35 AM
stadium ram f**king pack.. game star.. game star.. worm I will a buy a ticket fi yu.. I tell yu something right now.. no stadium could rock like soldier field ......I love it..... anyway after watching theese games am convince and will bett 100.00 bucks on it.. USA.. mexico.. and jamaica ..  going to  brazil..
war



War, I admire your confidence in Jamaica...but we are very far from the final product at this point. You must realize also that this Jamaica squad at the Gold cup does not include a few of our choice MLS players...and none of the England based contingent. With the likes of Jermain Beckford etc lining up...i think we can crate a decent team built around the core players that have been playing for the past 2-3 years. The obvious hedache here is that these guys need to play together as a unit before the qualifiers start. The nucleous will have o be formed from the guys that are playing at the Gold cup.

I'll predict it now. If Jamaica gets to the semis, they will advance to the final for the first time. Wether or not they can get to the semis depends on who they play in the quarters. Im pretty confident that Jamaica can match and beat costa rica, honduras and panama in the quarters.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Flex on June 13, 2011, 05:29:48 AM
Concacaf Gold Cup Full Results/Standings Update (13-June).

Group A
FT Costa Rica 5 - 0 Cuba
FT Mexico 5 - 0 El Salvador

Group B
FT Jamaica 4 - 0 Grenada
FT Honduras 0 - 0 Guatemala

Group C
FT Panama 3 - 2 Guadeloupe
FT United States 2 - 0 Canada


Group A
FT Costa Rica 1 - 1 El Salvador
FT Cuba 0 - 5 Mexico

Group B
FT Jamaica 2 - 0 Guatemala
FT Grenada 1 - 7 Honduras

Group C
FT Canada 1 - 0 Guadeloupe
FT United States 1 - 2 Panama


Group A
FT El Salvador 6 - 1 Cuba
FT Mexico 4 - 1 Costa Rica

Standings.

GP W D L F A D PTS   
Mexico  3 3 0 0 14 1 +13 9
Costa Rica  3 1 1 1 7 5 +2 4
El Salvador  3 1 1 1 7 7 +0 4
Cuba  3 0 0 3 1 16 -15 0

GP W D L F A D PTS   
Jamaica  3 3 0 0 7 0 +7 9
Honduras  3 1 1 1 7 2 +5 4
Guatemala  3 1 1 1 4 2 +2 4
Grenada  3 0 0 3 1 15 -14 0 0

GP W D L F A D PTS   
Panama  3 2 1 0 6 4 +2 7 
United States  3 2 0 1 4 2 +2 6
Canada  3 1 1 1 2 3 -1 4
Guadeloupe  3 0 0 3 2 5 -3 0

Games Left in Group Statge (Updated Now).

Group B - Mon, Jun 13, 2011
7:00 PM Guatemala 4 v Grenada 0
9:00 PM Honduras 0 v Jamaica 1

Group C - Tue, Jun 14, 2011
7:00 PM Canada 1 v Panama 1
9:00 PM Guadeloupe 0 v United States 1
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Toussaint on June 13, 2011, 08:06:06 AM
The US team ain't strong talk, cyah hold water.  Nonetheless, I watched the replays and it seemed like the USA missed many many opportunities.  So the victory maybe a bit out of perspective.  Granted I did not see the game.  all the best to Panama though any win against the favorites is good.  Plus, Jamrock ain't fraid no US.

Panama also missed 'many many opportunities' to score more goals. I think the Panamanians were the better team and they won. Most of the U.S. offenses occurred after Panama was already 2-0 and was trying to kill the game.

Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 13, 2011, 10:08:41 AM
stadium ram f**king pack.. game star.. game star.. worm I will a buy a ticket fi yu.. I tell yu something right now.. no stadium could rock like soldier field ......I love it..... anyway after watching theese games am convince and will bett 100.00 bucks on it.. USA.. mexico.. and jamaica ..  going to  brazil..
war



War, I admire your confidence in Jamaica...but we are very far from the final product at this point. You must realize also that this Jamaica squad at the Gold cup does not include a few of our choice MLS players...and none of the England based contingent. With the likes of Jermain Beckford etc lining up...i think we can crate a decent team built around the core players that have been playing for the past 2-3 years. The obvious hedache here is that these guys need to play together as a unit before the qualifiers start. The nucleous will have o be formed from the guys that are playing at the Gold cup.

I'll predict it now. If Jamaica gets to the semis, they will advance to the final for the first time. Wether or not they can get to the semis depends on who they play in the quarters. Im pretty confident that Jamaica can match and beat costa rica, honduras and panama in the quarters.

after watching the game and seeing teams like costa rica elsalvador play . I feal sey like concacaf have a big two.. team like honduras, panama and Jamaica is fighting for that third spot. with the squad JA got I see nothign but talent..  I loving this gold cup .. am loving it..

war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Toussaint on June 13, 2011, 11:38:16 AM
I like the way Jamaica is playing so far. But truth be told, Jamaica has yet to be tested. Jamaica has only played two of the three weakest teams of the tournament. Let's see how it goes tonight.

However, is Jamaica the strongest CFU team and one of the best in CONCACAF? No doubt!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: frico on June 13, 2011, 01:37:38 PM
Just hold on a bit people,Jamaica have yet to play a good team to show their ability.Their defeat of Guatemala was more than expected and their first goal came against the run of play and the Guatemala defender could have done much better,it was a nice ball but bad defending,the second goal was well taken.The first half saw a lot of rough play by the Jkans go unchecked,I saw several body checking by Jamaica.I dont see how yall could be making long range predictions that Jamaica,USA and Mexico going to Brazil.Listen Jamaica,when yall beat Mexico,USA,Panama and CR yuh can start predicting.
PS. The only sure teams going to Brazil are MEXICO and Brazil and still nothing is certain in football.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 13, 2011, 01:47:39 PM
I like the way Jamaica is playing so far. But truth be told, Jamaica has yet to be tested. Jamaica has only played two of the three weakest teams of the tournament. Let's see how it goes tonight.

However, is Jamaica the strongest CFU team and one of the best in CONCACAF? No doubt!


Tonight's game will be a big test for Jamaica....although Jamaica will be starting 6 players from the bench.
Honduras is a quality team, they are the UNCACF champs. What Jamaica do against them tonight will reveal alot about where Jamaica is at the moment. What was surprising to me was that Honduras couldnt get past Guatemala...while Jamaica were able to get by them 2-0. Yes, honduras hammered Grenada 7-1, but Jamaica could have easily scored 7 on Grenada too, and Guatemala might end up doing the same.

Still, to me Honduras is slightlyahead of Jamaica. I have high regards for their football.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: jahkingdom on June 13, 2011, 05:24:01 PM
Just hold on a bit people,Jamaica have yet to play a good team to show their ability.Their defeat of Guatemala was more than expected and their first goal came against the run of play and the Guatemala defender could have done much better,it was a nice ball but bad defending,the second goal was well taken.The first half saw a lot of rough play by the Jkans go unchecked,I saw several body checking by Jamaica.I dont see how yall could be making long range predictions that Jamaica,USA and Mexico going to Brazil.Listen Jamaica,when yall beat Mexico,USA,Panama and CR yuh can start predicting.
PS. The only sure teams going to Brazil are MEXICO and Brazil and still nothing is certain in football.

shut you ass frico. this is not even Jamaica strongest team. just wait till the world cup qualifiers start, allot of players coming in from Europe. we were eliminated by goal difference in the last world cup qualifier.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 13, 2011, 06:23:22 PM
Guat 4 vs Gre 0. Greneda getting steamrolled. Glad TT watchin. Maybe not.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 13, 2011, 06:48:43 PM
Guat 4 vs Gre 0. Greneda getting steamrolled. Glad TT watchin. Maybe not.

they going down swinging. I like that. There are a couple fellas on the field just playing out the minutes, but for the most part. They trying to play ball.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on June 13, 2011, 07:27:33 PM
show why we should have gotten rid of latapy sooner
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 13, 2011, 08:03:43 PM
Sweet goal there by Johnson. in football you have to make your own luck. that ball was struck from a good 25 yards. Valladares stunned.

Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Socafan on June 13, 2011, 09:09:21 PM
Just watch Jamaica - Honduras. I thought allyuh say Jamaica done wit dey brushcutter brand. In the last 15 minutes of that game is like they was playing hack ah man fuh spite. I never see so much kick and foul. Plus dey was bun too.
Game ended 1-0 Jamaica win, and throw away ah penalty too. Jamaica kinda organized at the back and playing the ball out instead of the damn boom kick that we seem to love. They need to take better care of the ball through the middle though.

Kudos to them. I believe USA next? Buss dey ass Jamaica.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: truetrini on June 13, 2011, 09:26:35 PM
Just hold on a bit people,Jamaica have yet to play a good team to show their ability.Their defeat of Guatemala was more than expected and their first goal came against the run of play and the Guatemala defender could have done much better,it was a nice ball but bad defending,the second goal was well taken.The first half saw a lot of rough play by the Jkans go unchecked,I saw several body checking by Jamaica.I dont see how yall could be making long range predictions that Jamaica,USA and Mexico going to Brazil.Listen Jamaica,when yall beat Mexico,USA,Panama and CR yuh can start predicting.
PS. The only sure teams going to Brazil are MEXICO and Brazil and still nothing is certain in football.

shut you ass frico. this is not even Jamaica strongest team. just wait till the world cup qualifiers start, allot of players coming in from Europe. we were eliminated by goal difference in the last world cup qualifier.
I want Jamaica to win the damn Gold Cup doh study that asshole frico....he eh have ah clue with he big house with a bathroom upstairs and one downstairs...lol
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Midknight on June 14, 2011, 12:20:33 AM
given how badly the other CFU sides have been doing, its great to see Jamaica have come to do business. This is where you can never fault them - they always seem more serious about things in general than us Trinis...

Pfister has his work cut out.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 14, 2011, 03:22:58 AM
... I thought allyuh say Jamaica done wit dey brushcutter brand.

How many ejections did Jamaica get for the "hack" ball that you describe here? I'd rather see them rough up the Hondurans than surrender like sissies like Grenada and Cuba did throught the tournament. I believe the players put alot into the first half, they were always going to pay for it in the second half.

I have nothing but praise for the coaching staff and the players. Maximum nine points, topping the group heading into the quarter finals, conceding 0 goals for a +7 goal differencial. It says alot when you can make 6 changes to the starting line up and still win against defending UNCAF champs.

Having said that, this Jamaica team still has a far way to go, there is still some glaring issues that need to be sorted out before WCQs come around. Some players in some positions will make way for others not in the squad later on. Keep this team together and we have as good a chance at Brazil 2014 than anyone else.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Touches on June 14, 2011, 06:56:32 AM
I feeling so 4kin shame that this grenada side buss we arse and went and collect 15 goal and score 1.

Anyhow we might not have looked or fared any better.

Otto have real wuk to do with this side....I waiting for our first friendly.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Reggaefan on June 14, 2011, 07:08:01 AM
I feeling so 4kin shame that this grenada side buss we arse and went and collect 15 goal and score 1.

Anyhow we might not have looked or fared any better.

Otto have real wuk to do with this side....I waiting for our first friendly.

Would be interesting to know whats going through Pfister's head at this point after seeing caribbean teams concede 35 goals so far in the tournament. He must be wondering how the hell T&T couldnt beat these teams.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Toussaint on June 14, 2011, 08:50:52 AM
I still cannot believe that Cuba and Grenada amassed more than 30 goals games in just 6 games. That's quite a feat! At this rate, I am sure they would have eventually set a record that would be hard to beat.

Actually, it was far less painful watching Grenada than Cuba. The Grenadians did try and I like their attitude. They were just out of their league. But, Cuba was a disappointment.

Congrats, Jamaica.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: de_redman on June 14, 2011, 09:11:30 AM
I feeling so 4kin shame that this grenada side buss we arse and went and collect 15 goal and score 1.

Anyhow we might not have looked or fared any better.
Otto have real wuk to do with this side....I waiting for our first friendly.

I'm sorry to say that we could never logically conclude that because Greneda and Cuba beat us in qualification means that we would collect 15 or 16 goals in 3 games in the Gold Cup... not from concacaf opposition HELL NO! Not even an all pro league side with Latas as coach collecting all dem goals!!! Never happened, never will...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 14, 2011, 09:19:57 AM
Cuba was all about naive tactics. They keep getting beat the same way, but like the coach stubborn (or maybe is castro who was calling the shots).

I think the one thing you can point out about the CFU teams that we lost to is that they are organized. Except for the Beenhakker/Wim era, we tend to ignore tactics in favor of individual play. Exceptional play gets results, otherwise we look terrible.

This is not to say that we don't do the tactical/organized thing, but you can often look at a game and see the point at which players stop playing the system and start to do their own thing. That might be the biggest advantage that Pfister has, as much as we might hate to admit it, we seem to listen to /believe in  a European coach for the whole game.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Jah Gol on June 14, 2011, 09:37:31 AM
We don't deserve one shit. We don't even have a national team. When last we even play a game , Steups. 

More power to Jamaica . They look poised to compete for a spot in Brazil.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Reggaefan on June 14, 2011, 09:48:57 AM
Guadeloupe has played well this tournament too, apart from some very careless tackling for some of their defenders, they have generally held their own. Lets see how they do against USA tonight.

CFU teams are better than the 35 goals conceded suggest. Teams like El Salvador and Guatemala are not better than an organized T&T, Haiti.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: de_redman on June 14, 2011, 12:11:54 PM
Poor Jamaica. They reel off 3 straight victories just to most likely face the USA in the quarterfinals.  :devil:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Jah Gol on June 14, 2011, 12:14:20 PM
Poor Jamaica. They reel off 3 straight victories just to most likely face the USA in the quarterfinals.  :devil:
They could win.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Reggaefan on June 14, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
Poor Jamaica. They reel off 3 straight victories just to most likely face the USA in the quarterfinals.  :devil:

Your menatlity is suspect.  Weak even.  The Jamaican mentality is not to hide or play like girly men. Check out the results in the last three games Jamaica play against the USA. If yo uthink Jamaica are running scared then you couldnt be more wrong. If that was the case they simply could have thrown the game last night.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: saga pinto on June 14, 2011, 01:59:48 PM
Poor Jamaica. They reel off 3 straight victories just to most likely face the USA in the quarterfinals.  :devil:

Your menatlity is suspect.  Weak even.  The Jamaican mentality is not to hide or play like girly men. Check out the results in the last three games Jamaica play against the USA. If yo uthink Jamaica are running scared then you couldnt be more wrong. If that was the case they simply could have thrown the game last night.

Breds don't let these juvenile f**kers get the better of you on this board they're are all about hating,for me if it's not trini, I backing the next Caribbean country that doing well and in this case is Jamaica.

It really gets a old after being a member for so long the vitriol I hear coming out of some of these people mouths and don't get me wrong yardies do it also but we can't allow the mindless few to dictate....   
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Arazi on June 14, 2011, 05:50:42 PM
Poor Jamaica. They reel off 3 straight victories just to most likely face the USA in the quarterfinals.  :devil:

Your menatlity is suspect.  Weak even.  The Jamaican mentality is not to hide or play like girly men. Check out the results in the last three games Jamaica play against the USA. If yo uthink Jamaica are running scared then you couldnt be more wrong. If that was the case they simply could have thrown the game last night.

Breds don't let these juvenile f**kers get the better of you on this board they're are all about hating,for me if it's not trini, I backing the next Caribbean country that doing well and in this case is Jamaica.

It really gets a old after being a member for so long the vitriol I hear coming out of some of these people mouths and don't get me wrong yardies do it also but we can't allow the mindless few to dictate....   

I'm glad some else could say this...

@reggaefan I wish some of players and even fans had the self belief you all have, cuz I fed up watch T&T teams with equal or above talent go to the US and pop down bcuz of who they feel they playing, wish we'd learn a lesson from our rivals instead of blowing hot air continuously...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 14, 2011, 06:02:48 PM
 :yawning: :yawning:

Oh yeah this....when is the next game??  I guess I could draaaaggg myself in front de TV and see what the rest have to offer..... :yawning:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: just cool on June 14, 2011, 06:12:28 PM
Saw the JA HON game yesterday @ RBA, JA was solid @ the back as usual to honduras dismay. i must say that trevor whitmore is one hek of a coach, introducing a bunch of young untested players yesterday and still managed to give it to honduras.

regardless of how jamaica does for the rest of this tourney, they are definitely in the final round of the WCQs (hex). i will not go as far as to say that they are unbeatable, but i will say this, they will be no push overs especially in the CNCF region.

those guys are showing the heart of true champions and IMO should be given the title of real warriors, BC they play for the black gold and green with pride & commitment and has a never die attitude in the process.

jamaicans has always been more committed to their country's image than us, so i'm not surprised to see them rise to the top like this. i would like to draw on a comparison between whitmore and latas, whitmore took up coaching BC he wanted to put jamaica back on track and on the map, while latas wanted to be a coach for all the wrong reasons.

socafan, JA was playing the game the way it was meant to be played. it wasn't no bush cutter brand i could assure you, but rather the flip flop brand as usual by these cheating spanish players. the ref was also a cheat since he favored the hondurans all game long, and was really surprised when he gave JA the penalty.

so now we don't only have to worry about the U.S. MEX and CR, now we also have JA as another formatable opponent.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 14, 2011, 06:23:10 PM
Canada playing this game with no sense of urgency. They need the points.

As I type that, they get a penalty and score.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 14, 2011, 06:54:28 PM
Wow, 1-1. That was a close one for Panama!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: socachynee on June 14, 2011, 08:05:56 PM
hopefully Guadeloupe can rebound in the second half
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 14, 2011, 08:14:36 PM
hopefully Guadeloupe can rebound in the second half

Score should be about 4-0 right now... US and the Gwada keeper playing by deyself.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 14, 2011, 08:34:00 PM
Guadeloupe will die by that ref.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 14, 2011, 08:44:21 PM
Dempsey!  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 15, 2011, 03:01:11 AM
Saw the JA HON game yesterday @ RBA, JA was solid @ the back as usual to honduras dismay. i must say that trevor whitmore is one hek of a coach, introducing a bunch of young untested players yesterday and still managed to give it to honduras.

regardless of how jamaica does for the rest of this tourney, they are definitely in the final round of the WCQs (hex). i will not go as far as to say that they are unbeatable, but i will say this, they will be no push overs especially in the CNCF region.

those guys are showing the heart of true champions and IMO should be given the title of real warriors, BC they play for the black gold and green with pride & commitment and has a never die attitude in the process.

jamaicans has always been more committed to their country's image than us, so i'm not surprised to see them rise to the top like this. i would like to draw on a comparison between whitmore and latas, whitmore took up coaching BC he wanted to put jamaica back on track and on the map, while latas wanted to be a coach for all the wrong reasons.

socafan, JA was playing the game the way it was meant to be played. it wasn't no bush cutter brand i could assure you, but rather the flip flop brand as usual by these cheating spanish players. the ref was also a cheat since he favored the hondurans all game long, and was really surprised when he gave JA the penalty.

so now we don't only have to worry about the U.S. MEX and CR, now we also have JA as another formatable opponent.

I admire your honesty here. Only little issue I have with Jamaica right now is the fact that they have been unable to play consistently good football for an entire 90 minutes, with the exceptiopn of maybe the Grenada game. Vs Guatemala, they played a horrible first hafl, but took control of the second. vs Hondurs they improved, but lost concentration for the final 25 minutes of teh second half.

But, this team is still work in progress. playing the USA infront of a packed RFK will pump the boyz up for sure, and i am sure they will give a sterling performance. The USA has looked less than impressive in its last 2 games, but i expect them to be also pumped up and ready for Jamaica. We have to realize also that this Jamaica team is missing some key players including Cummings, or most prolific scorer in the past year.

Should be a good game for the fans.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 15, 2011, 05:21:01 AM
Since this game is in DC, JA should have good support, looking forward to watching dis one
Title: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Flex on June 15, 2011, 05:29:23 AM
Well, the way things are going we maynot see T&T play until November and that's if the TTFF is not banned/grounded by FIFA with this latest Jack Warner fiasco ? who knows what could happen with politics come into play.

And as we all know, once Jack Warner is inactive, everything stops in T&T, he makes sure of that, he wants us to know he is boss. ...  :angel:

Also, the closest thing to T&T at the 2011 Gold Cup is Stephen Hart. So I wanted Canada to do well, but they are out now.

God alone knows how T&T were booted out by Grenada (Twice)... !!!! they were terrbile, same can be said for Cuba (surprisingly) and the other Caribbean team Guadeloupe had decent moments, but they too exited.

So in the meantime, we might as well support/watch our biggest Caribbean rivals and neighbours- Jamaica.

GAME: USA vs Jamaica
TIME: 3:00pm
VENUE: RFK Memorial Stadium
GAME TYPE: Concacaf Gold Cup
TV: Fox Soccer Channel, TeleFutura

I really like Clint Dempsey as a player but I hate his attitude, I hope Jamaica beat them once and for all.

Other Games

June 18
Costa Rica  5:00 PM  Honduras
Mexico  8:00 PM  Guatemala

June 19
Panama  6:00 PM  El Salvador

USA Team

Goalkeepers:
23-Marcus Hahnemann (Out of Contract), 1-Tim Howard (Everton), 18- Nick Rimando (Real Salt Lake).

Defenders:
3-Carlos Bocanegra (Saint-Etienne), 12-Jonathan Bornstein (UANL Tigres), 6-Steve Cherundolo (Hannover), 21-Clarence Goodson (Brondby), 14-Eric Lichaj (Leeds), 5-Oguchi Onyewu (FC Twente), 15-Tim Ream (New York Red Bulls), 2-Jonathan Spector (West Ham United).

Midfielders:20-Freddy Adu (Rizespor), 22-Alejandro Bedoya (Orebro), 4-Michael Bradley (Aston Villa), 8-Clint Dempsey (Fulham), 10-Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), 7-Maurice Edu (Rangers), 13-Jermaine Jones (Blackburn Rovers), 16-Sacha Kljestan (Anderlecht), 19-Robbie Rogers (Columbus Crew).

Forwards:
9-Juan Agudelo (New York Red Bulls), 17-Jozy Altidore (Bursaspor), 11-Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes).

Jamaica Team

Goalkeepers:
Donovan Ricketts (Los Angeles Galaxy/USA), Dwayne Miller (Syrianska/SWE), Duwayne Kerr (Strommen IF/SWE)

Defenders:
Shavar Thomas (Sporting Kansas City/USA), Jermaine Taylor (Houston Dynamo/USA), Demar Phillips (Aalesunds FK), Adrian Reid (Valerenga/NOR), Eric Vernan (Nybergsund IL/NOR), Dicoy Williams (Toronto FC/USA), Ian Goodison (Tranmere Rovers/ENG), Tyrone Marshall (Colorado Rapids/USA)

Midfielders:
Omar Daley (Bradford City/ENG), Jason Morrison (Aalesund/NOR), Richard Edwards (Harbour View), Jevaughn Watson (Houston Dynamo/USA), Damian Williams (Nybergsund IL/NOR), Keammar Daley (Tivoli Gardens), Rodolph Austin (SK Brann/NOR), Navion Boy (Tivoli Gardens),

Forwards:
Dane Richards (New York Red Bulls/USA), Ryan Johnson (San Jose Earthquakes/USA), Kavin Bryan (Sông Lam Nghệ An/VET), Luton Shelton (Valerenga/NOR).

PS: This thread will be merged after the game.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 15, 2011, 06:10:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwwZgyZ3XEI
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: madness on June 15, 2011, 06:18:51 AM
hey why u guys think that us is that good. i believe ja is playing good football to get pass there opponents. u guys need to give ja credit. i think ja will give us a good fright,
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: KND2 on June 15, 2011, 06:49:52 AM
This is a huge game for jamaica.

USA are ripe for the picking win this and they can get to the finals easy.

Big big game for jamaica.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Toussaint on June 15, 2011, 06:59:49 AM
Dempsey!  :rotfl: :rotfl:

That Dempsey dude, wow! If I haven't seen him playing before, I would have concluded that he is a total waste, possibly the worst player of the U.S. team. I do not know how he did it, but the guy managed to kill almost all US attacks. He was Guadeloupe's best defender. No wonder the only goal of the game came from a long range shot. Dempsey had no chance to mess that one too.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Toussaint on June 15, 2011, 07:01:44 AM
Canada playing this game with no sense of urgency. They need the points.

As I type that, they get a penalty and score.


This time, the Canucks only have themselves to blame.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Toussaint on June 15, 2011, 07:07:41 AM
3-1 Jamaica.

Since Altidore is Haitian, I hope he scores the lone U.S. goal, though.  :)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Andre DosSantos on June 15, 2011, 07:16:11 AM
the only teams i want to see in the final are jamaica and mexico everyone else don't even deserve a sniff.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: D.H.W on June 15, 2011, 07:18:10 AM
Jamaica please cut USA arse , sincerely DHW
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: rotatopoti3 on June 15, 2011, 08:01:11 AM
nuff Jamaican playing in Norway....shocker
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 15, 2011, 08:17:36 AM
3-1 Jamaica.

Since Altidore is Haitian, I hope he scores the lone U.S. goal, though.  :)

Maybe stretching it a little bit. Jamaica's offence and mid would have to play their A game for that to happen. If Jamaica wins, it will be by a 1 goal margin.

The USA are a little bit rattled by the fact that they didnt win their group, losing a game in the process. Watching them agaisnt Guadeloupe showed that they were down. But knowing them, they will bounce back.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Toussaint on June 15, 2011, 09:05:30 AM
It's possible, though. Yes, 3-1 is wishful thinking. However, Jamaica seems to have what it takes to pull it up.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 15, 2011, 09:17:51 AM
USA 5 JAM 0
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: maxg on June 15, 2011, 09:29:43 AM
nuff Jamaican playing in Norway....shocker
WHATTTT? Only 2 locals...how come they doing so good ? Even USA playing with what, maybe 5 locals ? I guess them coaches busy picking the best team, no matter where yuh from or playing.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Daft Trini on June 15, 2011, 09:40:54 AM
USA, USA, USA  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 15, 2011, 09:53:29 AM
nuff Jamaican playing in Norway....shocker
WHATTTT? Only 2 locals...how come they doing so good ? Even USA playing with what, maybe 5 locals ? I guess them coaches busy picking the best team, no matter where yuh from or playing.

The Jamaica squad published below is incorrect. Tyrone Marshall and Ian Goodison were released prior to the Gold Cup. Kavin Bryan (Vietnam) got injured just before the start of the tournament and was also released.

Also, both Eric Vernan and Adrian Reid are based in Jamaica, and not Norway as suggested (although both played in Norway a couple seasons ago). The locals guys who do manage to get into the squad almost always end up getting drafted by clubs in scandinavia or MLS after coming into the team. Jermain Taylor, Jevaugn Watson, Dicoy williams, Damian Williams, Dwayne Miller Dwayne Kerr, Lovell Palmer etc were local based up to a year ago.... these guys all made the move to MLS and Sacndinavia in the past 1-2 years as a result of their time in the national team.

Still MLs players like OBrien White (Seatle), Khari Stephenson (San Jose), Omar Cummings (Colorado), Lovell Palmer (Houston) were not considered for the Gold Cup...and also none of the guys from England were invited.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: frico on June 15, 2011, 10:17:24 AM
Let me just say here and now,I hate USA in everything so I hope Jamaica buss dey over fed greedy rass,gwan Yard you can do it. 8)
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Ngozi on June 15, 2011, 11:34:47 AM
I'd go with Jamaica 2  US 1.
The US defense is suspect to pace and jamaica are too wild to discipline themselves they'll probably foul one of the us attackers for a penalty.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 15, 2011, 11:39:37 AM
I'd go with Jamaica 2  US 1.
The US defense is suspect to pace and jamaica are too wild to discipline themselves they'll probably foul one of the us attackers for a penalty.
you mean like the wild tackle the Honduras put on Johnson to give Jamaica a penalty? With jamaicas speed, I wouldnt be surprised if we are awarded a penalty vs USA slow backline
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: madness on June 15, 2011, 11:59:20 AM
it's true JA versus MEX sounds good
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: DeSoWa on June 15, 2011, 12:16:22 PM
The biggest playmaker in this game would be the REF, watch and see!  ;)

Big Up!
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 15, 2011, 12:20:45 PM
Agreed, and I think the players are aware of this. Whitmore himself was on the field 13 years ago at the same RFK stadium when a Chilean ref awarded the USA a penalty kick for a ball to hand outside the box.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: warmonga on June 15, 2011, 12:48:12 PM
I like Jamaica chances against a weak looking USA Team any way or the other it na matter who loose I guh still be a winner. I loving it..
war
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: warmonga on June 15, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
Let me just say here and now,I hate USA in everything so I hope Jamaica buss dey over fed greedy rass,gwan Yard you can do it. 8)

I hope you not living in the U.S if suh tek yu ass way from here and guh join sum terrorist unit..

war
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: breezers on June 15, 2011, 02:07:28 PM
Altho ah wudda love tuh see d US get ah comprehensive lickin from d mexicans...ah go settle fuh ah business like like win by d yardies. Let's go reggae boys! Stick it on pon dem!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kicker on June 15, 2011, 03:12:33 PM
USA are kind of unimpressive at the moment.

Haven't seen Jamaica play but they sounding like a tough nut to crack.   

Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: frico on June 15, 2011, 04:38:40 PM
Let me just say here and now,I hate USA in everything so I hope Jamaica buss dey over fed greedy rass,gwan Yard you can do it. 8)

I hope you not living in the U.S if suh tek yu ass way from here and guh join sum terrorist unit..

war
What di f**k it got to do with you where I live yuh dumb ass-hole.When did you get yuh rass clart GREENCARD or are you still hiding in yuh stinking likkle hovel.Doh come play American fuh me coz dem doh even want yuh over dey,I am a solid citizen where I am,yuh quick to call names but check yuh own,warmonga... and way you from,doh answer dat coz ah really doh want to know,as I like to say to yall, go back to yuh f**king tribe of misfits,that is where you belong.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 15, 2011, 04:55:38 PM
Mods, close this thread now before Frico get a heart attack. I was never able to understand the obvious dislike many on this forum have for any and everything that has the tag USA on it. To be honest, the caribbean would be worse off today if it werent for Uncle Sam (no, not that Sam :))

The only way we can match up to them really is on the playing field (Bolt will agree with me here). Reggaeboyz will get another crack at them on Sunday.

War, dont retaliate my brother :)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 15, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
USA are kind of unimpressive at the moment.

Haven't seen Jamaica play but they sounding like a tough nut to crack.   



JA looked pretty ok with the game I saw.

The USA said they did not have the spark they wanted in their last game.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Brownsugar on June 15, 2011, 05:41:21 PM
Well I sure every body know who I backing.....I goh be out de country but ah goh make sure to find ah TV for this game....ah hope ah remember......*sets alarm*
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: frico on June 15, 2011, 06:02:13 PM
Reggaefan,he quick to jump on the popular bandwagon to pigeon hole me,and yuh know why,does he think that everybody in the world who dislike America are terrorist,now check his name....WARMONGA,way he get dat from.I usually have some cuss word for Jamaicans as they have for me but I would back any Caribbean team in Jamaica's position regardless of who they playing,USA is different and ah want Yard to mash dong dem fat over fed rass.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Socapro on June 15, 2011, 09:15:53 PM
USA 5 JAM 0

Makes perfect sense to me!  ;D
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: davidephraim on June 15, 2011, 09:41:13 PM
Mods, close this thread now before Frico get a heart attack. I was never able to understand the obvious dislike many on this forum have for any and everything that has the tag USA on it. To be honest, the caribbean would be worse off today if it werent for Uncle Sam (no, not that Sam :))

The only way we can match up to them really is on the playing field (Bolt will agree with me here). Reggaeboyz will get another crack at them on Sunday.

War, dont retaliate my brother :)

Fan - shame for picking sides except for the side of justice and if ah man get attack because of his choice then he has all rights to retaliate. Let freedom reign!
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Andre DosSantos on June 15, 2011, 10:52:28 PM
I like Jamaica chances against a weak looking USA Team any way or the other it na matter who loose I guh still be a winner. I loving it..
war

The funny thing is, is this is not even an under pwred USA team, that's the really sad part. they have to play superior teams to play their hardest and best. The mistake they made going into this tournament was the Manifest Destiny bs with that idea that only mexico will give them trouble and that it would be them and mexico in the finals and now they are finding that they are having to really fight for it or be embarrassed by "lesser teams" kinda of the same mentality when the Brazil's womens team beat the usa women's 4-0 in the last competition they were in and they couldn't fathom it because they were ranked number 1 at the time. the entire excuses that are being given is to cover their inadequacies atm. If anyone saw the panama game, Panama made the use USA look very ordinary, very flat, no tactical awareness with a style of play that looked like a pick up game at the park with the USA having to be bullies on the ball to gain anything at all. That same bullying was displayed again against Guadeloupe and their lack of finishing by the teams senior members is even more saddening.

IF anyone think that Jamrock is going to bow down to the USA like their "Masa" and let them dictate anything guess again. I am looking for them to bloody their noses, and go for the Jugular and take the game all the way to the finals.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Andre DosSantos on June 15, 2011, 10:56:31 PM
USA 5 JAM 0

Makes perfect sense to me!  ;D

Well Brother's don't put you eggs all in the same basket nah. Because it ain't have no dark horse between these 2. This is a even match up with the Edge to Jamaica.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: davidephraim on June 16, 2011, 02:58:09 AM
USA 5 JAM 0

Makes perfect sense to me!  ;D

Well Brother's don't put you eggs all in the same basket nah. Because it ain't have no dark horse between these 2. This is a even match up with the Edge to Jamaica.

Letting the recent game play be the judge putting history aside, I am inclined to agree with you. Go Jamrock for dis game.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 16, 2011, 04:15:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoNywJHAaSk

Impressive period of posession 15 touches spanning 2 minute leading up to the Goal. Great stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omYdLOl6LPc
JAmaica Love - Busy Signal. Go forward Boyz.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: kicker on June 16, 2011, 07:33:04 AM
The U.S. is probably the "better" team but they looking uninspired at the moment...

Haven't seen Jamaica play but from all accounts they sound prepared, organized and hungry.

Going with Jamaica on this one.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: dinho on June 16, 2011, 07:38:08 AM
Is there any scenario that can play out whereas both these teams can lose??

If not, then lets go USA, USA, USA...  :salute:
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Sam on June 16, 2011, 08:03:15 AM
Ah hate Jamaica more than anything country in this whole world because they bastards feel they better than everybody else.

This time though, ah support them to beat USA.

Go Reggae Toyz.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: davidephraim on June 16, 2011, 08:49:06 AM
Ah hate Jamaica more than anything country in this whole world because they bastards feel they better than everybody else.

This time though, ah support them to beat USA.

Go Reggae Toyz.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: FireBrand on June 16, 2011, 09:22:35 AM
Is Stars and Stripes (my second home) all de way!!!  If dey lose I would not be too sad tho  :devil:
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: warmonga on June 16, 2011, 01:05:56 PM
I wont hijack a perfect thread. I will miss our yearly fathers day celeberations picnic to prepare for a very beautiful game.. supporting good football and both countries in there quest to beat mexico and win it all!!!!!!!!!!!.

war
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Daft Trini on June 16, 2011, 01:34:18 PM
USA USA USA, USA USA USA... doh matter we doh have any better chants... land of the brave all the way.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: DeSoWa on June 16, 2011, 01:38:41 PM
USA - No WAY! Go JA!

Big Up!
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: just cool on June 16, 2011, 02:10:06 PM
I could never support the U.S.MNT, never! especially when men like dempsey and donovan playing for them. as ah matter of fact, the only logical team to support in this tourney was jamaica, even though they wicked and bad ah still feel they was the only logical choice. in other words, they are our fackedup mean spirited older brother, but family takes precedence over strangers.

i will never forget the condescending things that was said by harks and the foudy chick during the WC 2006 about us, together with the sancho incident. dempsey also weight in on the zamora move to play for england and of course he was less than complementary toward us.

i know it's more than likely not to happen, but i wish JA tears them ah new....... you know what.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Daft Trini on June 16, 2011, 02:12:34 PM
but what the jail... JC return yes.. welcome back bredda...  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Socafan on June 16, 2011, 02:23:55 PM
USA playing flat. Too much football maybe? All they have is their relentless energy. They only using it to run all over the field.

Jamaica bun badly at the end of the Honduras game. Start to lose the ball and foul plenty. Seem to me they not too fit.

If Jamaica bun midway through the second half against the USA like against Honduras they go get poison. USA eh go be throwing away like in their Gwada game.

Backing JA, cyar back USA, but from the way I see it, it go be tough.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 16, 2011, 02:35:32 PM
I dont think Jamaica will go into this game thinking they are favorites to win, I think what they will do is go into this game knowing that they CAN compete with this USA team. a 2-1 loss and narrow 1-0 win over Panama and Guadeloupe respectively, coupled with Jamaica unbeaten run in the group phase with 0 goals conceded makes this a very interesting match-up indeed.

Jamaica played a very hig-intensity first half against against Honduras, and thats where they eventually won the game. That tactic will have to be tempered a little bit vs the USA. Fact of the matter is Jamaica RESTED a number of more match-fit players vs Honduras (6 starters from previous games were given a rest), the reserves that came in from the bench were always going to be less match ready than the starters, so not entirely surprised what transpired second half vs hon.

That said, USA is USA, just like JAmaica, they have strong self-belief, a certain level of cockiness if you may. This is what allows them to comepte on the world stage and get good results. They will probably be too much for JAmaica to overcome, but I sense that JAmaica will give them a hard fight, and hopefully, they USA continue to struggle. Regardless,  they are still favorites to get to the final along with Mexico. The stakes are much less now in the Gold cup than if this were a world cup qualifier, so I think Jamaica will be more relaxed here and can play more of an open game, atacking game. Jamaica has already achieved beyon expectation this tournament, so nothingt to lose really.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Spursy on June 16, 2011, 03:12:50 PM
Dempsey's USA all the way! But I must say, JA better win this or else all that showing off against Honduras when they know USA taking second spot will splash all over dey face.

Mexico winning this tourny, mite as well hand dem the trophy and stop beating around the bush.

B.c even if USA make the finals, Mexico have more fans in US than USA has.. pretty sad.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 16, 2011, 06:05:22 PM
Dempsey's USA all the way! But I must say, JA better win this or else all that showing off against Honduras when they know USA taking second spot will splash all over dey face.

Mexico winning this tourny, mite as well hand dem the trophy and stop beating around the bush.

B.c even if USA make the finals, Mexico have more fans in US than USA has.. pretty sad.

How could Jamaica know USA taking second spot? You realize that USA could have ended up winning  their group had Panama not scored that last minute equalizing goal vs Canada right? The only guarantee at that point was that second place team in the group would play Costa Rica. Depending on other results, the winner could have ended up playing any of USA, Panama, or Canada.

Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: rickstaa on June 16, 2011, 07:25:31 PM
Ah think I will go take inn this game.......JAMAICA all the way ah even wearing black and yello :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: truetrini on June 16, 2011, 07:32:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoNywJHAaSk

Impressive period of posession 15 touches spanning 2 minute leading up to the Goal. Great stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omYdLOl6LPc
JAmaica Love - Busy Signal. Go forward Boyz.

real nice goal Reggaefan...real nice...he launched himself into that shot...now Jamaica playing big man football after a long time of playing school boy ball...congrats.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 16, 2011, 09:10:21 PM
I could never support the U.S.MNT, never! especially when men like dempsey and donovan playing for them. as ah matter of fact, the only logical team to support in this tourney was jamaica, even though they wicked and bad ah still feel they was the only logical choice. in other words, they are our fackedup mean spirited older brother, but family takes precedence over strangers.

i will never forget the condescending things that was said by harks and the foudy chick during the WC 2006 about us, together with the sancho incident. dempsey also weight in on the zamora move to play for england and of course he was less than complementary toward us.

i know it's more than likely not to happen, but i wish JA tears them ah new....... you know what.

Ah sorry but I have to co-sign on this. If is one team I hate more than manu is this one so I lookin' for the Jamaicans to pull out an unlikely win.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Arimaman on June 17, 2011, 07:44:12 AM
I could never support the U.S.MNT, never! especially when men like dempsey and donovan playing for them. as ah matter of fact, the only logical team to support in this tourney was jamaica, even though they wicked and bad ah still feel they was the only logical choice. in other words, they are our fackedup mean spirited older brother, but family takes precedence over strangers.

i will never forget the condescending things that was said by harks and the foudy chick during the WC 2006 about us, together with the sancho incident. dempsey also weight in on the zamora move to play for england and of course he was less than complementary toward us.

i know it's more than likely not to happen, but i wish JA tears them ah new....... you know what.

Ah sorry but I have to co-sign on this. If is one team I hate more than manu is this one so I lookin' for the Jamaicans to pull out an unlikely win.
Why the hate for the US?  Is it because of the little man vs the small man?  Trinis not realistic.  We just not as good as the US.  They have a tremendously huge talent pool, better coaching (especially at the youth level) and greater resources than we in the Caribbean so they should beat us.  As a trini living in the US, this is a hard game fuh me.  I would like to see JA do well just for the mere fact that is always the US and Mexico but I wish the US no ill will. 

What's interesting is that about man talking about what Foudy and Harkes say about we?  What did they say that wasn't true?   Be open minded and realistic man...We take things way too personal. 

Odds are, Jamaica is going to have a really really difficult time winning this game.  Not saying that they won't win but it will be an uphill battle.  At least Reggae Fan honest and realistic in his approach to the game and I could respect that.  All the other venting is non-sensical and emotional....
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: dinho on June 17, 2011, 08:08:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoNywJHAaSk

Impressive period of posession 15 touches spanning 2 minute leading up to the Goal. Great stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omYdLOl6LPc
JAmaica Love - Busy Signal. Go forward Boyz.


Ah think that is the best goal ah ever, EVER see Jamaica score.. Nice.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: kicker on June 17, 2011, 08:22:27 AM
All the other venting is non-sensical and emotional....

Most football fanaticism is...all over the world- not just Trini. 
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: jamaica2099 on June 17, 2011, 09:16:14 AM
I could never support the U.S.MNT, never! especially when men like dempsey and donovan playing for them. as ah matter of fact, the only logical team to support in this tourney was jamaica, even though they wicked and bad ah still feel they was the only logical choice. in other words, they are our fackedup mean spirited older brother, but family takes precedence over strangers.

i will never forget the condescending things that was said by harks and the foudy chick during the WC 2006 about us, together with the sancho incident. dempsey also weight in on the zamora move to play for england and of course he was less than complementary toward us.

i know it's more than likely not to happen, but i wish JA tears them ah new....... you know what.

Ah sorry but I have to co-sign on this. If is one team I hate more than manu is this one so I lookin' for the Jamaicans to pull out an unlikely win.
Why the hate for the US?  Is it because of the little man vs the small man?  Trinis not realistic.  We just not as good as the US.  They have a tremendously huge talent pool, better coaching (especially at the youth level) and greater resources than we in the Caribbean so they should beat us.  As a trini living in the US, this is a hard game fuh me.  I would like to see JA do well just for the mere fact that is always the US and Mexico but I wish the US no ill will. 

What's interesting is that about man talking about what Foudy and Harkes say about we?  What did they say that wasn't true?   Be open minded and realistic man...We take things way too personal. 

Odds are, Jamaica is going to have a really really difficult time winning this game.  Not saying that they won't win but it will be an uphill battle.  At least Reggae Fan honest and realistic in his approach to the game and I could respect that.  All the other venting is non-sensical and emotional....
Of course, the Reggae Boyz  will have a difficult time beating the US on US soil. Why should strange calls from referees in favour of the US change on Sundays. The many examples of bad calls even when Jamaica has scored first against the US are there to see.
The mental image of little David Jamaica beating the Goliath US for the first time (and in a major tournament) would be more the embarassing. 
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Jah Gol on June 17, 2011, 09:33:51 AM
All the best the Jamaica even though I don't like allyuh. Good football trumps personal bias everytime.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Arimaman on June 17, 2011, 10:08:35 AM
I could never support the U.S.MNT, never! especially when men like dempsey and donovan playing for them. as ah matter of fact, the only logical team to support in this tourney was jamaica, even though they wicked and bad ah still feel they was the only logical choice. in other words, they are our fackedup mean spirited older brother, but family takes precedence over strangers.

i will never forget the condescending things that was said by harks and the foudy chick during the WC 2006 about us, together with the sancho incident. dempsey also weight in on the zamora move to play for england and of course he was less than complementary toward us.

i know it's more than likely not to happen, but i wish JA tears them ah new....... you know what.

Ah sorry but I have to co-sign on this. If is one team I hate more than manu is this one so I lookin' for the Jamaicans to pull out an unlikely win.
Why the hate for the US?  Is it because of the little man vs the small man?  Trinis not realistic.  We just not as good as the US.  They have a tremendously huge talent pool, better coaching (especially at the youth level) and greater resources than we in the Caribbean so they should beat us.  As a trini living in the US, this is a hard game fuh me.  I would like to see JA do well just for the mere fact that is always the US and Mexico but I wish the US no ill will. 

What's interesting is that about man talking about what Foudy and Harkes say about we?  What did they say that wasn't true?   Be open minded and realistic man...We take things way too personal. 

Odds are, Jamaica is going to have a really really difficult time winning this game.  Not saying that they won't win but it will be an uphill battle.  At least Reggae Fan honest and realistic in his approach to the game and I could respect that.  All the other venting is non-sensical and emotional....
Of course, the Reggae Boyz  will have a difficult time beating the US on US soil. Why should strange calls from referees in favour of the US change on Sundays. The many examples of bad calls even when Jamaica has scored first against the US are there to see.
The mental image of little David Jamaica beating the Goliath US for the first time (and in a major tournament) would be more the embarassing. 
Well beauty is always in the eye of the beholder....  Referees are human...god knows, I am one.   Until you sit in the middle of that pitch and make calls....it's a tougher job than most think.  It's really all about angles my friend. 

I always like the underdog and for that reason I'll probably like to see Jamaica win for more than any other reason.  However, I live in the US and support the team on the world stage b/c like most say on this site, is like trini eh really have a team.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: capodetutticapi on June 17, 2011, 10:21:49 AM
go jamaica.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: frico on June 17, 2011, 11:06:06 AM
This Jamaica team is playing very good football,it is probably better than TT of the late 80s and early 90s and that has to be great for the Yard.I am backing them to win this Gold Cup,very sad that we are not even there but enough has been said bout that so lets back the Yard fuh dis one.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: banton on June 17, 2011, 08:43:59 PM
never though but go Jamaica.what bout Cummings from Colorado and luton sheldon ah think is he name
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 17, 2011, 09:07:13 PM
Doh geh the US no space, no time and in the attacking 3rd unleash do what comes naturally.  Go JA your team got talent.   ;D
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Bakes on June 17, 2011, 09:12:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoNywJHAaSk

Impressive period of posession 15 touches spanning 2 minute leading up to the Goal. Great stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omYdLOl6LPc
JAmaica Love - Busy Signal. Go forward Boyz.



Sweet goal... "mala suerte" indeed.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: warmonga on June 18, 2011, 12:01:44 AM
nice to see the love for JA. Its full time ppl realise is football we supporting .. Jamaica is playing marvelous football .. gave jack he jacket.. I pick JA all the way unless the refs play a part .. but JA is too talented and deep in the bench to loose against USA.. am loving it  .. I want to see a mexico loose to Jamaica in the Finals ..

war
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: davidephraim on June 18, 2011, 05:34:24 AM
This is the first time in a long time that I would be scared to see even a well prepared, good ballin TnT team face this Jam. Team. They are really playing well especially in those areas where lesser teams tend to err like voom kickin, gettin excited when de opposin side running at dem and play it out confidently out of de back as opposed to panickin. De wing play and running off de ball looks good too and there forward line is exciting playing off of dem 2 wingers. It looks like football to me.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 18, 2011, 06:49:04 AM
I tell you what, after seeing the attack the CFU and in particular Jack Warner and Burell come under from Blazer recently, i am now realizing that we in the CFU will be fighting a common battle moving forward in CONCACAF. I am not siding with Warner, i believe the man has played his inning and should step aside now, but it looks like Mr Blazer is out to destroy CFU. There was an article on Bigsoccer.com recently obviously written by an american. The level of disrespect meted out to Burrell and Warner in particular and the CFU on a whole was shocking.

I hope the Jamaica players use this as extra motivation, not only for todays game, but for future world cup qualifiers. Last time USA played a Caribbean team they lost no? 2-1 world cup qualiufuer oin T&T. correct me if im wrong
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 18, 2011, 06:57:48 AM
This is the first time in a long time that I would be scared to see even a well prepared, good ballin TnT team face this Jam. Team. They are really playing well especially in those areas where lesser teams tend to err like voom kickin, gettin excited when de opposin side running at dem and play it out confidently out of de back as opposed to panickin. De wing play and running off de ball looks good too and there forward line is exciting playing off of dem 2 wingers. It looks like football to me.

One of the thing that worked for JAmaica in the Honduras game was that they were under no pressure to win the game. They were already through. As a result, the players took the opportunity to enjoy themselves and experiment somewhat against a quality team.

Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 18, 2011, 06:58:44 AM
never though but go Jamaica.what bout Cummings from Colorado and luton sheldon ah think is he name

Cummings injured, Shelton will start vs USA.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Andre DosSantos on June 18, 2011, 07:00:25 AM
nice to see the love for JA. Its full time ppl realise is football we supporting .. Jamaica is playing marvelous football .. gave jack he jacket.. I pick JA all the way unless the refs play a part .. but JA is too talented and deep in the bench to loose against USA.. am loving it  .. I want to see a mexico loose to Jamaica in the Finals ..

war

not sound like i am hating but they way mexico are playing atm only divine intervention would help any team that plays against them in this Tourney, especially in the finals. Myself i am happy all the old mexican players are more or less gone so the new generation can play ball like its meant to be played. That said i am in favour  of a Jamacia-Mexico final who do i want to win won't matter they got to decide that on the field and let me enjoy a great football match in the process
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Andre DosSantos on June 18, 2011, 07:01:38 AM
I tell you what, after seeing the attack the CFU and in particular Jack Warner and Burell come under from Blazer recently, i am now realizing that we in the CFU will be fighting a common battle moving forward in CONCACAF. I am not siding with Warner, i believe the man has played his inning and should step aside now, but it looks like Mr Blazer is out to destroy CFU. There was an article on Bigsoccer.com recently obviously written by an american. The level of disrespect meted out to Burrell and Warner in particular and the CFU on a whole was shocking.

I hope the Jamaica players use this as extra motivation, not only for todays game, but for future world cup qualifiers. Last time USA played a Caribbean team they lost no? 2-1 world cup qualiufuer oin T&T. correct me if im wrong

any chance you can find that link?
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 18, 2011, 08:24:09 AM
any chance you can find that link?

here you go
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/blog.php?s=20d452d8da1ef3eb56c43ca5bba7b23c&b=11571
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Michael-j on June 18, 2011, 12:53:16 PM
I tell you what, after seeing the attack the CFU and in particular Jack Warner and Burell come under from Blazer recently, i am now realizing that we in the CFU will be fighting a common battle moving forward in CONCACAF. I am not siding with Warner, i believe the man has played his inning and should step aside now, but it looks like Mr Blazer is out to destroy CFU. There was an article on Bigsoccer.com recently obviously written by an american. The level of disrespect meted out to Burrell and Warner in particular and the CFU on a whole was shocking.

I hope the Jamaica players use this as extra motivation, not only for todays game, but for future world cup qualifiers. Last time USA played a Caribbean team they lost no? 2-1 world cup qualiufuer oin T&T. correct me if im wrong

Actually, that 2-1 loss you're referring to occurred in the group of 4. When the two teams met again in the hex we (T&T) lost 3-0 and 1-0.  All the more reason I want Jamaica to buss them up.
Let's go Reggae Boyzzzzz!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Dumplingdinho on June 18, 2011, 01:05:30 PM
doh support yardies especially in football but i hope they beat the US.  I predict 2-1 win for the reggae boyze.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: kaliman2006 on June 18, 2011, 01:07:25 PM
Go Jamaica. After all the ole talk and banter, I have to back the Caribbean.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: just cool on June 18, 2011, 01:08:27 PM
I tell you what, after seeing the attack the CFU and in particular Jack Warner and Burell come under from Blazer recently, i am now realizing that we in the CFU will be fighting a common battle moving forward in CONCACAF. I am not siding with Warner, i believe the man has played his inning and should step aside now, but it looks like Mr Blazer is out to destroy CFU. There was an article on Bigsoccer.com recently obviously written by an american. The level of disrespect meted out to Burrell and Warner in particular and the CFU on a whole was shocking.

I hope the Jamaica players use this as extra motivation, not only for todays game, but for future world cup qualifiers. Last time USA played a Caribbean team they lost no? 2-1 world cup qualiufuer oin T&T. correct me if im wrong
To be replaced by whom? jack warner has done nothing but right by CFU and CNCF, it's T&T football where jack warner lacks pride vision and ambition. and even concerning T&T football, i would like to see warner put in his best effort instead of just walking away leaving it to these inept bastards in trinidad who see football as a treasure chest instead of ah duty to the ppl.

i predict, the day warner walks away from CFU we will suffer for dear life. remember, we in CFU is considered as ah bunch of backward n###as by the yanks and the central americans, and the rest of the confederations has never even heard of CFU or even know where these countries are.

could you imagine ah yankee or ah spanish runnin Concacaf ? if that was to happen trinidad jamaica and haiti would start their opening round against teams like costa rica and mexico just to get the three trouble some caribbean teams out the way so they could have an all north american and central american hex.

yuh better pray for warner tuh stay, since he and cpt burrell is real frens and jamaica will always eat ah food as long as jack wearing the big pants.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Midknight on June 18, 2011, 02:06:54 PM
I tell you what, after seeing the attack the CFU and in particular Jack Warner and Burell come under from Blazer recently, i am now realizing that we in the CFU will be fighting a common battle moving forward in CONCACAF. I am not siding with Warner, i believe the man has played his inning and should step aside now, but it looks like Mr Blazer is out to destroy CFU. There was an article on Bigsoccer.com recently obviously written by an american. The level of disrespect meted out to Burrell and Warner in particular and the CFU on a whole was shocking.

I hope the Jamaica players use this as extra motivation, not only for todays game, but for future world cup qualifiers. Last time USA played a Caribbean team they lost no? 2-1 world cup qualiufuer oin T&T. correct me if im wrong
To be replaced by whom? jack warner has done nothing but right by CFU and CNCF, it's T&T football where jack warner lacks pride vision and ambition. and even concerning T&T football, i would like to see warner put in his best effort instead of just walking away leaving it to these inept bastards in trinidad who see football as a treasure chest instead of ah duty to the ppl.

i predict, the day warner walks away from CFU we will suffer for dear life. remember, we in CFU is considered as ah bunch of backward n###as by the yanks and the central americans, and the rest of the confederations has never even heard of CFU or even know where these countries are.

could you imagine ah yankee or ah spanish runnin Concacaf ? if that was to happen trinidad jamaica and haiti would start their opening round against teams like costa rica and mexico just to get the three trouble some caribbean teams out the way so they could have an all north american and central american hex.

yuh better pray for warner tuh stay, since he and cpt burrell is real frens and jamaica will always eat ah food as long as jack wearing the big pants.

The way I got it, Warner essentially got his run to power on the back of a Costa Rican or Honduran bid to unseat the Mexican seatholder, and by extension their grip on power. The US, although unable to lead that challenge given their total lack of respect within the region's football before hosting 1994, were only too happy to fall in line.

It's always been about power plays. Nothing much has changed
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: reggae-fan on June 18, 2011, 02:17:34 PM
@JustCool. I've always said that football in the region will be way worse off without Jack Warner...and I've said it also that T&T football on a whole will suffer without Warner in power, despite what many thinks.

But after all that has happened in the past couple years with ticket scandal, and now these bribery allegations, I feel Warner should hang up his boots so to speak and conecentrate on his role in T&T politics.

And yes, of all the CFU nations, I agree that Burell and the JFF stand to lose more than any other if and when Jack Warner demits FIFA office
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: jamaica2099 on June 18, 2011, 02:51:56 PM
@JustCool. I've always said that football in the region will be way worse off without Jack Warner...and I've said it also that T&T football on a whole will suffer without Warner in power, despite what many thinks.

But after all that has happened in the past couple years with ticket scandal, and now these bribery allegations, I feel Warner should hang up his boots so to speak and conecentrate on his role in T&T politics.

And yes, of all the CFU nations, I agree that Burell and the JFF stand to lose more than any other if and when Jack Warner demits FIFA office
Barring CFU nations being suspended. Good or bad. Other FIFA members will simply see this as bullying tactics because as rich as they are. The US hands are not clean either.

And what does CONCACAF office in New York have to do with anything. It's just a building like any other. ::) 
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 18, 2011, 03:33:41 PM
Honduras start off hot. They running Costa Rica ragged.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Midknight on June 18, 2011, 05:18:05 PM
are they really playing both games at the same time? NM. just  realised the honduras costa rica game is in extra time
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 18, 2011, 05:45:39 PM
These Costa Ricans cyah get a decent shot on goal to save they life. And like they learn to take penalties from the English.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 18, 2011, 06:10:29 PM
Chitarito lookin tired.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 18, 2011, 06:19:08 PM
Uh oh, 1-0 Guatemala. A long ball right down the middle of the field.
1 bounce, 1 touch, 1 goal
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Socafan on June 18, 2011, 07:21:21 PM
@JustCool. I've always said that football in the region will be way worse off without Jack Warner...and I've said it also that T&T football on a whole will suffer without Warner in power, despite what many thinks.
But after all that has happened in the past couple years with ticket scandal, and now these bribery allegations, I feel Warner should hang up his boots so to speak and conecentrate on his role in T&T politics.

And yes, of all the CFU nations, I agree that Burell and the JFF stand to lose more than any other if and when Jack Warner demits FIFA office

Yuh could not be more wrong about this. TTFF, Jack Warner's personal fiefdom has destroyed football in TnT. Since 2006 they have been plumbing unbearable debths, with all kinda blacklisting of players and general incompetence. Where is our football now? In case you don't know it,(I'm sure you do you've been here long enough), we have a proud history in the game albeit in our region despite our size and relative obscurity. Through the years we have even managed to produce several world class players. Yet, where is our National team today? Jack can stay head of CONCACAF, he has improved things  there, but he and his cronies have retarded the football of TnT.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: warmonga on June 18, 2011, 07:47:34 PM
nice to see the love for JA. Its full time ppl realise is football we supporting .. Jamaica is playing marvelous football .. gave jack he jacket.. I pick JA all the way unless the refs play a part .. but JA is too talented and deep in the bench to loose against USA.. am loving it  .. I want to see a mexico loose to Jamaica in the Finals ..

war

not sound like i am hating  but they way mexico are playing atm only divine intervention would help any team that plays against them in this Tourney, especially in the finals. Myself i am happy all the old mexican players are more or less gone so the new generation can play ball like its meant to be played. That said i am in favour  of a Jamacia-Mexico final who do i want to win won't matter they got to decide that on the field and let me enjoy a great football match in the process

yu nuh have to worry bout war thinking dat star.. I love football jes like you.. I saw mexico play and was really not impress only because I feal sey if tnt Happen to organise a squad we could tek costa rica easy.. Costa Rica looked like dey was not even trying to play..Mexico rell good and could possibly tek it but what I like about JA is that there players are taking on defenders with there dribbling skills.. I really like JA chances here in this cup.. I really do.. remember war say it here first.. Jamaica.. USA & mexioc going to brazil...

war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 18, 2011, 07:53:08 PM
Uh oh, 1-0 Guatemala. A long ball right down the middle of the field.
1 bounce, 1 touch, 1 goal

bitter sen me a internet link nuh star..
war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 18, 2011, 08:06:27 PM
I watching di last tem minutes of this guatemala mexioc game.. guatemala cya even get di freeking ball.. how di hell di score is only 2-1
war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Andre DosSantos on June 18, 2011, 08:24:41 PM
Man the amount of small foul after the second goal you swear someone wanted to open a hatchery. Guatemala is quite fortunate that the came ended 2-1. Now for the usa vs Jamaica
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 18, 2011, 08:36:19 PM
Giovanni De Santos is the Mexican version of Podolski; they dos always turn out for dey country but less affective at club level. Chicharito is a bless fella!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 19, 2011, 01:56:45 AM
Uh oh, 1-0 Guatemala. A long ball right down the middle of the field.
1 bounce, 1 touch, 1 goal

bitter sen me a internet link nuh star..
war

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=53063.msg744294#msg744294
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: davidephraim on June 19, 2011, 10:44:27 AM
@JustCool. I've always said that football in the region will be way worse off without Jack Warner...and I've said it also that T&T football on a whole will suffer without Warner in power, despite what many thinks.
But after all that has happened in the past couple years with ticket scandal, and now these bribery allegations, I feel Warner should hang up his boots so to speak and conecentrate on his role in T&T politics.

And yes, of all the CFU nations, I agree that Burell and the JFF stand to lose more than any other if and when Jack Warner demits FIFA office

Yuh could not be more wrong about this. TTFF, Jack Warner's personal fiefdom has destroyed football in TnT. Since 2006 they have been plumbing unbearable debths, with all kinda blacklisting of players and general incompetence. Where is our football now? In case you don't know it,(I'm sure you do you've been here long enough), we have a proud history in the game albeit in our region despite our size and relative obscurity. Through the years we have even managed to produce several world class players. Yet, where is our National team today? Jack can stay head of CONCACAF, he has improved things  there, but he and his cronies have retarded the football of TnT.

I will say this; go back and read Just Cool take on this because he was spot on. Even when talking about Jack where TnT football is concerned. Step up Jack and undo de do. Leave a good legacy behind so when people callin yuh name dey go cuss yuh from birth to 2011 and then be forced to say good tings bout yuh because I can't imagine Alvin, or Anton runnin TnT football. Best dey give coops de wok! :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Deeks on June 19, 2011, 11:00:16 AM
yuh better pray for warner tuh stay, since he and cpt burrell is real frens and jamaica will always eat ah food as long as jack wearing the big pants.

JC, I beg to disagree. That is the Eric Williams syndrome dey. When he gone, who we go put. Well, I say we keep on putting until we get the right people. After 25-30 yrs and we national football and team are in shamble you want jack and them to stay!!!! To plunder the system for his own benefit.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: davidephraim on June 19, 2011, 11:09:09 AM
yuh better pray for warner tuh stay, since he and cpt burrell is real frens and jamaica will always eat ah food as long as jack wearing the big pants.

JC, I beg to disagree. That is the Eric Williams syndrome dey. When he gone, who we go put. Well, I say we keep on putting until we get the right people. After 25-30 yrs and we national football and team are in shamble you want jack and them to stay!!!! To plunder the system for his own benefit.

Deeks dont take this as a disagreement to your statement because I fully overs where yuh coming from and if yuh fraid to go forward then you'll always stay backward! Granted - but along the same lines of your example if we were to look at 20-30 years after Williams ending with Manning was williams not better? Ah didn't want to include Auntie Kamla because she is still a developing story but de dude that came before her was a piece of work.  in all fairness to the example; chambers nor Robbie were glaring thieves they were just deemed inept by the general public and ah think JC did use the words inept and the distaste for it.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: dinho on June 19, 2011, 11:28:45 AM
I dunno what take me, but as the game approaches I actually backing Jamaica to take this one.

Probably going and bathe with some blue soap later.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 12:42:09 PM
Any links on this game?  :P
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: D.H.W on June 19, 2011, 12:42:39 PM
JA dont let me down. Slay the beast !
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: frico on June 19, 2011, 12:43:31 PM
I tell you what, after seeing the attack the CFU and in particular Jack Warner and Burell come under from Blazer recently, i am now realizing that we in the CFU will be fighting a common battle moving forward in CONCACAF. I am not siding with Warner, i believe the man has played his inning and should step aside now, but it looks like Mr Blazer is out to destroy CFU. There was an article on Bigsoccer.com recently obviously written by an american. The level of disrespect meted out to Burrell and Warner in particular and the CFU on a whole was shocking.

I hope the Jamaica players use this as extra motivation, not only for todays game, but for future world cup qualifiers. Last time USA played a Caribbean team they lost no? 2-1 world cup qualiufuer oin T&T. correct me if im wrong
I didn't have to read any report to know that Blazer and the US football fraternity would do anything to send the CFU into oblivion,they see us as an annoying fly that should be swatted,well tonite ah hope Jamaica run at them with pace and skill and dont stop till the final whistle,KICK DEM OUT,ah cyah wait.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 12:52:51 PM
http://atdhe.tv/

link here
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Socafan on June 19, 2011, 12:56:44 PM
Can anyone confirm this game time?
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 19, 2011, 01:02:33 PM
Can anyone confirm this game time?

Now! FSC or Univision
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 01:07:09 PM
Jamaica Jamaica.   Seckle Mr Cat me say me come to mash it up.!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 01:11:27 PM
Jamaica!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 01:29:05 PM
Jamaica!!!

welcome to JAMROCK!!!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: dinho on June 19, 2011, 01:29:46 PM
Not seeing this game on FSC in Trinidad.

Anybody knows where it showing?
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 01:39:18 PM
http://firstrow.me/live.php?v=event_id%3D52294%26tid%3D185571%26channel%3D0%26layout%3Dpopup%26Itemid%3D207.html
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 01:39:33 PM
http://atdhe.tv/
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Bitter on June 19, 2011, 01:43:26 PM
I hadda switch to univision oui. Them fellas on FSC putting me to sleep.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Bitter on June 19, 2011, 01:48:59 PM
These US forwards finding new and creative ways to miss.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Sam on June 19, 2011, 01:52:49 PM
Jamaica playing like they are pussies....

But anyways..

BULL them hard Jamaica !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Socafan on June 19, 2011, 01:55:32 PM
Can anyone confirm this game time?

Now! FSC or Univision

Thanks!
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 01:56:35 PM
Jam look like they bun....They just waiting waiting for the US to attack em.  Come on Jamrock let them know what the real hardcore.  Right now allyuh playing like club sodas and bed time stories.   8)
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 02:00:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRTrJTaOntU

welcome to Jamrock.....LIVE style
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2011, 02:03:36 PM
I hadda switch to univision oui. Them fellas on FSC putting me to sleep.

They getting on my last nerve.  Howard had to make one li'l kick save, which was more lucky than good... and whole game they going on about the "great save" he make.  That and every other sentence is about "the speed of Jamaica."  Is like they dominating the sprint events in track so now every Jamaican athlete have speed to burn.  The only fast man on that field today so far is Dane Richards and from watching him over the years with Red Bull that is about all he have.  

That said, Richards did a nice job setting up the first Jamaican opportunity with a cut back then a slip to the middle.  The fella mis-kick it straight to a teammate who looked miles offside, but no call.  That is where the Howard kick save came in... then another Jamaican sky it over bars from point blank.  Shelton had another chance later on but look like he thought was small goal they playing.  All in all Jamaica doing shit... US doing whatever they want in the middle of the pitch and have Rickett's under seige in goal.  That and Donovan ent even on the field yet, he still in Bradley holster fuh de second half.  That five-man middle giving Jamaica fits.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 02:08:15 PM
Come on Jam, you deserve to be here.  Don't sweat them yanks.   :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Bitter on June 19, 2011, 02:13:48 PM
We saw that coming...
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 02:19:24 PM
No the commentators saying Jam is the worst team in the world.  lol
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 02:31:35 PM
Bad call!!!!     >:(
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: davyjenny1 on June 19, 2011, 02:33:33 PM
Bad 4cane Call !!
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: E-man on June 19, 2011, 02:34:12 PM
Bad call!!!!     >:(
On review not a red. But he sold it.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Bitter on June 19, 2011, 02:34:22 PM
Helluva Dive. I wonder if the studio men will be as upset as they normally are.
Tarjeta Roja. No hay falta!  Muy mal!
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: davyjenny1 on June 19, 2011, 02:36:36 PM
Not only Jack alone does thief in Concacaf
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 19, 2011, 02:44:55 PM
Jam sell de game ah wah
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Preacher on June 19, 2011, 02:45:06 PM
  :bs:      Tired of these yanks.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 19, 2011, 02:47:27 PM
Bury them USA

f**k all of allyuh.. you think them nasty shithongs would have supported us? .. STEWPS

Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: royal on June 19, 2011, 02:48:28 PM
Jamaica should be knocking dat ball off earlier,to many unnecessary touches sometimes.
Title: Re: Thread for the USA vs Jamaica Game (19-Jun-11).
Post by: Bitter on June 19, 2011, 02:52:34 PM
Ah Jamaica... Like your curry, you flatter to deceive.
Title: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: just cool on June 19, 2011, 03:11:22 PM
Mods yuh could merge after yuh unlock the original thread. please.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 19, 2011, 03:12:23 PM
Very umimpressive play by JA today. Is it an inferiority complex or something? Apart from that erroneous red card for that dive...JA have no one to blame but themselves.

Big Up!
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Sam on June 19, 2011, 03:14:55 PM
I wanted JAM to win..

But they play SHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

No determantion, nothing....

Dane Richards have no football brain......

F00k you Jamaica !!!!!!!!!!!

De first time in meh life ah ever back you and yuh shit down yuh self !!!!!

No fight, no brand and no plan....
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: just cool on June 19, 2011, 03:18:03 PM
Smallmag, the USA is worst! they would never ever route for us in a billion yrs! i have actually been in many bars to watch T&T play in concacaf competition and had loads of jamaicans routing for us like they were trinis, so yuh need tuh cool wid all dat miss information.


i could see you never live no where else but trinidad, so yuh shouldn't talk things yuh don't know. outside of "little" POS, trinis and jamaicans actually live like family side by side in case yuh untraveled arse don't know.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Sam on June 19, 2011, 03:18:50 PM
They play USA like is Barzil they playing....

Fraid, fraid !!!!...
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Sam on June 19, 2011, 03:20:48 PM
T&T beat USa at competition level...

JAM never did !!!!...

Imagine USA B Team and beat Jamaica...

Rickette is a shit keeper.... he only rebounding... he is not a shot stopper.... he good on corsses and poor at shots...
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Sam on June 19, 2011, 03:22:12 PM
F00ck Mosiah on de reggaeboyzsc website !!!!!!!
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Sam on June 19, 2011, 03:23:57 PM
I expect T&T to play with NO BALLS... but not Jamaica. !!!!!!

F00ck you Jamaica !!!!!!

Go eat yuh curry cunny and white rice !!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Sam on June 19, 2011, 03:25:27 PM
Reggaefan is a blasted bullerman !!!!!.....

Whitmore have them men playing with NO BALLS !!!!!!!!!

Dempsey and Jones look like Ronaldo and Rivaldo vs Jamaica.....
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Socafan on June 19, 2011, 03:26:49 PM
Jamaica bun again. Ah feel they was so focusing on teaching them HOW to play, that they forget the fitness part of the game. Then again, if you chasing ball whole game yuh bound to bun. They bun from the first half and mentally wasn't in it fuh the rest of the way.

Kinda disappointed but not at all surprised based on what I saw of them before. They were plain out hustled and lost focus.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Sam on June 19, 2011, 03:26:56 PM
2 shots on goal whole game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nah !!!!!!..

Caribbean teams blight especially when it comes to USA !!!!!!
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: royal on June 19, 2011, 03:27:06 PM
Jamaica have a typical caribbean problem,they like to many unnecessary touches and cyar make proper passes when yuh closing dem down .They like room when they on de ball.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: just cool on June 19, 2011, 03:28:10 PM
We could more than beat this USA team! all we need is the TTFF tuh stay tuh fack away from the coach and his selection policy, but if coach pfister could organize our defense and midfield we would beat this shyte team.

as a matter of fact, we beat a better team than this when we buss dem up in the semis round @ the HSC, they had charlie davies, altidor, cherundalo, clark and questrun or what ever the fack his name is. whitmore got it all wrong today.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Sam on June 19, 2011, 03:28:54 PM
What fitness yuh talking about, USA use a second string, ontop of a second string and still win...

Look Donovan came on late in de second half....

Caribbean players have no heart, they strong but never fit.....
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Sam on June 19, 2011, 03:30:15 PM
All de boast RF talk bout, JAM couldn't even get 3 passes together....

Without Speed, Richards is tutu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: just cool on June 19, 2011, 03:31:09 PM
jamaica played to slow in transition, plus they gave the U.S. too much time on the ball, and allowed them the freedom to control the midfield, which is where they lost the battle.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2011, 04:16:46 PM
Smallmag, the USA is worst! they would never ever route for us in a billion yrs! i have actually been in many bars to watch T&T play in concacaf competition and had loads of jamaicans routing for us like they were trinis, so yuh need tuh cool wid all dat miss information.


i could see you never live no where else but trinidad, so yuh shouldn't talk things yuh don't know. outside of "little" POS, trinis and jamaicans actually live like family side by side in case yuh untraveled arse don't know.

Why you wasting yuh time? The amount of Jamaicans was rooting fuh us when we went Germany... some even made the trip and all.  When people live their life in a tribal (as you does call it, lol) box what else you expect.  People free to support who they want, but it funny sometimes to read the justifications.


As for the game... Jamaica play shit.  Johnson and Ricketts were the only ones who made the flight.  Even so, Ricketts is a rock... but so too are his hands.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: FF on June 19, 2011, 04:27:14 PM
Why you wasting yuh time? The amount of Jamaicans was rooting fuh us when we went Germany... some even made the trip and all.  When people live their life in a tribal (as you does call it, lol) box what else you expect.  People free to support who they want, but it funny sometimes to read the justifications.


As for the game... Jamaica play shit.  Johnson and Ricketts were the only ones who made the flight.  Even so, Ricketts is a rock... but so too are his hands.

yeah Jamaica pop down...

also we all have jamaican in-laws and family and team-mates, class-mates and friends...

from my personal collection... some yardie friends who make de trip in 06

(http://oi53.tinypic.com/2mxk2zl.jpg)
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 19, 2011, 05:02:28 PM
We could only hope those that grow old eventually grow up
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 19, 2011, 05:31:22 PM

yeah Jamaica pop down...

also we all have jamaican in-laws and family and team-mates, class-mates and friends...

from my personal collection... some yardie friends who make de trip in 06


Nice pic!  One ah mih Jamaican pardnas in DC text mih and say he going and watch the game from ah bar... I text him back and say ah doh like Jamaicans but go Reggae Boyz, lol.  They real disappoint mih today.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: fari on June 19, 2011, 06:01:51 PM
panama now equalize against salvador...madness
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Peong on June 19, 2011, 06:31:31 PM
Panama equalized in the last minute of reg. time!  They just had a bullet that went very close too.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Peong on June 19, 2011, 06:32:47 PM
So where is small's post that ppl respondin to?  In another thread?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: fari on June 19, 2011, 07:00:07 PM
panama into the semis!   another clash against the us, but dont expect the us to play as poorly as last time, should be a good one
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 19, 2011, 08:13:21 PM
Oh Bwoy what  a let dung.. I really dont think JA was mentally prepared for U.S. I mean U.S look like Giants and JA looked like grenada or even wurst TNT today.. Whitmore Not ready for this Job? I mean This team did not look like dey came out to play football at all. I have never seen Jamaica played this bad In a long long time.. This was bad football. USA First goal was a killer .... anyway go USA & Panama again two teams playing each other that I actually Like...

war
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 19, 2011, 08:20:55 PM
Oh Bwoy what  a let dung.. I really dont think JA was mentally prepared for U.S. I mean U.S look like Giants and JA looked like grenada or even wurst TNT today.. Whitmore Not ready for this Job? I mean This team did not look like dey came out to play football at all. I have never seen Jamaica played this bad In a long long time.. This was bad football. USA First goal was a killer .... anyway go USA & Panama again two teams playing each other that I actually Like...

war

yea... all allyuh on my scene about my post like a set of little bitches

How Small Mag could back USA instead of Jam? Caribbean Unity Small Mag! USA does Tief we ! USA this and that... USA f**king organised you jackasses.. we should take an example

Yea allyuh can back them stink f**king shithongs.. thats like United fans supporting Liverpool , or Madrid fans supporting Barca

RF always playing mr Politician.. but If you go in any TT Jam thread you will see all of them cockroaches talking a setta shit about us

BACK THEM ! CARIBBEAN UNITY!  ::)

Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: breezers on June 19, 2011, 08:31:07 PM
Smallmag, the USA is worst! they would never ever route for us in a billion yrs! i have actually been in many bars to watch T&T play in concacaf competition and had loads of jamaicans routing for us like they were trinis, so yuh need tuh cool wid all dat miss information.


i could see you never live no where else but trinidad, so yuh shouldn't talk things yuh don't know. outside of "little" POS, trinis and jamaicans actually live like family side by side in case yuh untraveled arse don't know.

yea dais true just cool! so ah hatta co-sign dey too but ah guess its all bout wuh ah fella expose too..so to each his or her own sameway!


I expect T&T to play with NO BALLS... but not Jamaica. !!!!!!

Didnt see d game but i agree wid sam..ah JA is one team yuh would always expect tuh play wid heart and some vigor...so dat was disappointin tuh hear smh!
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Peong on June 19, 2011, 08:46:31 PM
yea... all allyuh on my scene about my post like a set of little bitches

How Small Mag could back USA instead of Jam? Caribbean Unity Small Mag! USA does Tief we ! USA this and that... USA f**king organised you jackasses.. we should take an example

Yea allyuh can back them stink f**king shithongs.. thats like United fans supporting Liverpool , or Madrid fans supporting Barca

RF always playing mr Politician.. but If you go in any TT Jam thread you will see all of them cockroaches talking a setta shit about us

BACK THEM ! CARIBBEAN UNITY!  ::)

And herein lies the problem.  Small yuh know there is plenty to experience outside of an internet forum right?
What ppl tellin yuh here is about real life experiences, and real life trumps the internet every time.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Peong on June 19, 2011, 08:51:36 PM
Both teams played with heart, but I didn't like El Salvador's gamesmanship.  Both teams went VERY close in extra time.  That was an entertaining game.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: kicker on June 19, 2011, 09:10:45 PM
Saw about 25 mins of the game and for all that I'd heard of Jamaica's potential this tournament I was very disappointed - They looked like any Caribbean team (including T&T) - amateur and disjointed.  The U.S. weren't that impressive looking either but as a professional cohesive unit they looked a entire division above Jamaica - as they always do over Caribbean teams.  Was rooting for JA in this one but the match, and the scoreline seemed pretty par for the course...Status Quo maintained. 

Is it just me or is it extreeeemely difficult to stomach this Goal Cup standard of football right on the back of a season of Champions League
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: theworm2345 on June 19, 2011, 09:39:14 PM
 :rotfl: Sam...one thing though it was also Jamaica's B team.

If I can steal from Big Mag F#CK THE US TEAM
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Trini Madness on June 19, 2011, 11:08:19 PM
what is the problem with caribbean unity? when ghana was the lone african team in the 2010 WC, de whole of africa was behind them. why cant we do the same thing?
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: pops on June 19, 2011, 11:28:46 PM
Sam sounds very uneducated and football blind. :rotfl: With all talk with no sense behind him which is the sign of a part time football follower. When these uneducated part time followers speak absolute nonsense, one of the reasons Trinidad football is so bad is highlighted. Too many people in this county are like Sam and "think" they follow football but amm they really don't.
"US send a B or a C team???" are u blind? thats a full strength US team. If the world cup was tomorrow that would be the team that going. Donovan was left out for tactical reasons.
And for your info can you remember how bad Trinidad look in the last Gold Cup they went to, plus how bad they look last time they played the US in the US..... Sam ur comments are laughable.
Jamaica,which we should  have a stronger rivalry with{ I argree Small M 100%}, should be supported when they go against they U.S. like how I am sure the majority of  Meryside and London wanted United to beat Barcelona in the Wembley final.
Going back to Sam maybe it was Jamaica with the weaker team.......with out Fuller,Cummings,Gardener, and potential players like Bekford,Z Hinds,Hoilett. Sam is forgetting Jamaica finish 1st in their group conceding no goalss last time T@T was in the world cup they finish dead LAST in there group. I am not a blind football supporter I watch the game, so Sam please stop making ignorant non factual claims like if you dont know football because I want to believe you do.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: just cool on June 20, 2011, 03:28:44 AM
Sam sounds very uneducated and football blind. :rotfl: With all talk with no sense behind him which is the sign of a part time football follower. When these uneducated part time followers speak absolute nonsense, one of the reasons Trinidad football is so bad is highlighted. Too many people in this county are like Sam and "think" they follow football but amm they really don't.
"US send a B or a C team???" are u blind? thats a full strength US team. If the world cup was tomorrow that would be the team that going. Donovan was left out for tactical reasons.
And for your info can you remember how bad Trinidad look in the last Gold Cup they went to, plus how bad they look last time they played the US in the US..... Sam ur comments are laughable.
Jamaica,which we should  have a stronger rivalry with{ I argree Small M 100%}, should be supported when they go against they U.S. like how I am sure the majority of  Meryside and London wanted United to beat Barcelona in the Wembley final.
Going back to Sam maybe it was Jamaica with the weaker team.......with out Fuller,Cummings,Gardener, and potential players like Bekford,Z Hinds,Hoilett. Sam is forgetting Jamaica finish 1st in their group conceding no goalss last time T@T was in the world cup they finish dead LAST in there group. I am not a blind football supporter I watch the game, so Sam please stop making ignorant non factual claims like if you dont know football because I want to believe you do.
So mr 50 cents , where you from ? BC i cyar figure it out. and the only reason i ask is BC yuh agreeing with ah yuteman (small mag) who just call jkans cockroaches which include my children BC their mother is jamaican and my kids grew up in yard.

FYI, you could take yuh bad vibes else where! we are all about love and good vibes on here except for ah few haters. we are not english boys on here, football is ah past time and nothing more! @ the end of the day we are all caribbean ppl with the same experiences, so fack the manU and liverpool values! ah bet if ah race war break out in england, liverpool, chelsea and manu fans would come together tuh drop crowbars and two by four in we westindian arses! we might even see ah revival of the teddy boys.

PS: ah wonder if this is the said shatta guy who get banned last yr? if it is then disregard this thread since it's beyond your tribal comprehension.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: just cool on June 20, 2011, 03:37:51 AM
Oh Bwoy what  a let dung.. I really dont think JA was mentally prepared for U.S. I mean U.S look like Giants and JA looked like grenada or even wurst TNT today.. Whitmore Not ready for this Job? I mean This team did not look like dey came out to play football at all. I have never seen Jamaica played this bad In a long long time.. This was bad football. USA First goal was a killer .... anyway go USA & Panama again two teams playing each other that I actually Like...

war

yea... all allyuh on my scene about my post like a set of little bitches

How Small Mag could back USA instead of Jam? Caribbean Unity Small Mag! USA does Tief we ! USA this and that... USA f**king organised you jackasses.. we should take an example

Yea allyuh can back them stink f**king shithongs.. thats like United fans supporting Liverpool , or Madrid fans supporting Barca

RF always playing mr Politician.. but If you go in any TT Jam thread you will see all of them cockroaches talking a setta shit about us

BACK THEM ! CARIBBEAN UNITY!  ::)


Yuh should take ah fackin plane and come and live on the eastern sea board, preferably the north east for ah yr and you would see why we don't support the USMNT. these ppl don't even want tuh interact with you let alone support your football! i don't know which part of that you don't comprehend?

as for jamaicans, if yuh want tuh follow in yuh fardder's moronic footsteps then fine, but don't expect us who have good sense tuh follow suite. yuh have some nerve tuh call ppl cockroaches, do you know how fackin ignorant and stupid you sound?   stewpppsssss!!!
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: just cool on June 20, 2011, 03:41:51 AM
So where is small's post that ppl respondin to?  In another thread?
In the original JA vs USA thread, but some how the thread was locked so we started ah new thread.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: FF on June 20, 2011, 07:27:20 AM
Sam sounds very uneducated and football blind. :rotfl: With all talk with no sense behind him which is the sign of a part time football follower. When these uneducated part time followers speak absolute nonsense, one of the reasons Trinidad football is so bad is highlighted. Too many people in this county are like Sam and "think" they follow football but amm they really don't.
"US send a B or a C team???" are u blind? thats a full strength US team. If the world cup was tomorrow that would be the team that going. Donovan was left out for tactical reasons.
And for your info can you remember how bad Trinidad look in the last Gold Cup they went to, plus how bad they look last time they played the US in the US..... Sam ur comments are laughable.
Jamaica,which we should  have a stronger rivalry with{ I argree Small M 100%}, should be supported when they go against they U.S. like how I am sure the majority of  Meryside and London wanted United to beat Barcelona in the Wembley final.
Going back to Sam maybe it was Jamaica with the weaker team.......with out Fuller,Cummings,Gardener, and potential players like Bekford,Z Hinds,Hoilett. Sam is forgetting Jamaica finish 1st in their group conceding no goalss last time T@T was in the world cup they finish dead LAST in there group. I am not a blind football supporter I watch the game, so Sam please stop making ignorant non factual claims like if you dont know football because I want to believe you do.

donovan was left out because he went he sister wedding the night before!
first time he has not started a US game in umpteen years.. get your facts straight
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: davidephraim on June 20, 2011, 07:36:54 AM
Wow! Fire like rain in dis thread. I go lend meh little 50 cents. First off, Mr. 50 cents it is evident dat yuh brand new and as a result you might be unprepared for a devout like Sam and his comments. Truth be told sam is an avid TnT fan with a pretty good knowledge of de game and an even better knowledge of the TnT players. His delivery is like babwanday and it is an acquired taste.

 Secondly I had a lot of good things to say about Jam last post and as a result now it have meh looking bad because all de good things that they were doing which elevated them above the fray went out the window in dat USA game. I would say this in 50 cents defense.. I believe de US dont have much more too offer than what we saw, of course they can always get more out of dat team, but as for their crop of players.. I dont see them bringin in much more people. Tapper Whitmore let meh down like Latapy dey as he played de US like he from a third world country and massa was coming to town. Had he been more aggressive minded I believe he coulda sting de US before they even know what hit them.

Reggae Fan ah dont know what went on dey wid yuh team but dey needed your composure to see dem tru dat one.  dey look very ordinary in dat game. They still tried to have a knock and bounce it around but like ah man say with allowin de US so much time on de ball it was a faulty showing.

Lastly, to bilaterally call all jams cockroaches and then defend it on some tribal ting bout Manu and Liverpool is quite dumb. It is no surprise dat so much man, especially those who have traveled, was quick to stand up for their Caribbean counterparts because on most teams abroad, unless country specific, it does have two yard man, a vincy, two spanish, two trini and ah african. Dont get meh wrong man and man does still talk bout oh trini dis and oh jam dat but is a love same way because they all fighting against a bigger evil.

Like it was said prior, if TnT can get their act together, with a man like Otto-matic at de helm and get de best dat TnT have to offer, I feel we could give dat US team some beans. Beat dem home and draw wid dem in de US.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 20, 2011, 07:51:49 AM
Sensitive Nancies.. I'm reffering to Jamrock Football or anyone associated to its Football... I dont hate anyone from Jamaica..I hate their football team when they play us .. I dont want to see them do anything good.. they are our main rivals

My problem is allyuh are the hypocrits... Why everyone hate the USA? because a man score a goal from half line? I think its a different reason but I not going to say it here because you will be red faced...telling me I have to grow up(at least I hating for the right reason-sport rivalry).. Funny thing is half of yall living in USA for a better life..ironic


 
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: davidephraim on June 20, 2011, 07:58:52 AM
Sensitive Nancies.. I'm reffering to Jamrock Football or anyone associated to its Football... I dont hate anyone from Jamaica..I hate their football team when they play us .. I dont want to see them do anything good.. they are our main rivals

My problem is allyuh are the hypocrits... Why everyone hate the USA? because a man score a goal from half line? I think its a different reason but I not going to say it here because you will be red faced...telling me I have to grow up(at least I hating for the right reason-sport rivalry).. Funny thing is half of yall living in USA for a better life..ironic

I get it and think this is a fair argument. Just a passing note.. I detest Manu from a sporting rivalry as I am a chelsea man with a soft spot for Stoke City however when Manu was playing barca ah back dem. Of course dat is my problem, i'm just saying though!


 
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on June 20, 2011, 08:02:25 AM
Home of the Brave.... USA USA USA.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Peong on June 20, 2011, 09:50:26 AM
Sensitive Nancies.. I'm reffering to Jamrock Football or anyone associated to its Football... I dont hate anyone from Jamaica..I hate their football team when they play us .. I dont want to see them do anything good.. they are our main rivals

My problem is allyuh are the hypocrits... Why everyone hate the USA? because a man score a goal from half line? I think its a different reason but I not going to say it here because you will be red faced...telling me I have to grow up(at least I hating for the right reason-sport rivalry).. Funny thing is half of yall living in USA for a better life..ironic

Obviously nobody here will back JA over T&T when we square off, that point is irrelevant.  In this game we didn't play them so by your standards you don't have a good reason to hate them. 
The camaraderie between T&T and JA exists, whether you feel it or not.
How many of your USA buddies ever backed T&T?
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 20, 2011, 09:59:30 AM
Sensitive Nancies.. I'm reffering to Jamrock Football or anyone associated to its Football... I dont hate anyone from Jamaica..I hate their football team when they play us .. I dont want to see them do anything good.. they are our main rivals

My problem is allyuh are the hypocrits... Why everyone hate the USA? because a man score a goal from half line? I think its a different reason but I not going to say it here because you will be red faced...telling me I have to grow up(at least I hating for the right reason-sport rivalry).. Funny thing is half of yall living in USA for a better life..ironic

Obviously nobody here will back JA over T&T when we square off, that point is irrelevant.  In this game we didn't play them so by your standards you don't have a good reason to hate them. 
The camaraderie between T&T and JA exists, whether you feel it or not.
How many of your USA buddies ever backed T&T?

Thats not the point.. my point was why I am being attacked for hating Jam football because I backing USA over them when many backing Jam because they hating on USA for possibly for personal and stupid reasons that dont need to be discussed rather than Footballing reasons only like myself

Anyway they out..good riddance.

Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Socapro on June 20, 2011, 10:15:46 AM
Sensitive Nancies.. I'm reffering to Jamrock Football or anyone associated to its Football... I dont hate anyone from Jamaica..I hate their football team when they play us .. I dont want to see them do anything good.. they are our main rivals

My problem is allyuh are the hypocrits... Why everyone hate the USA? because a man score a goal from half line? I think its a different reason but I not going to say it here because you will be red faced...telling me I have to grow up(at least I hating for the right reason-sport rivalry).. Funny thing is half of yall living in USA for a better life..ironic

Obviously nobody here will back JA over T&T when we square off, that point is irrelevant.  In this game we didn't play them so by your standards you don't have a good reason to hate them. 
The camaraderie between T&T and JA exists, whether you feel it or not.
How many of your USA buddies ever backed T&T?

Thats not the point.. my point was why I am being attacked for hating Jam football because I backing USA over them when many backing Jam because they hating on USA for possibly for personal and stupid reasons that dont need to be discussed rather than Footballing reasons only like myself

Anyway they out..good riddance.



Doh worry about them SM! They don’t understand true sports rivalry like you do! It has nothing to do with personal friendship once teams hit the field! You are entitled to your stance from a football and Caribbean rivalry perspective as you see it!
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Arimaman on June 20, 2011, 10:21:01 AM
Sensitive Nancies.. I'm reffering to Jamrock Football or anyone associated to its Football... I dont hate anyone from Jamaica..I hate their football team when they play us .. I dont want to see them do anything good.. they are our main rivals

My problem is allyuh are the hypocrits... Why everyone hate the USA? because a man score a goal from half line? I think its a different reason but I not going to say it here because you will be red faced...telling me I have to grow up(at least I hating for the right reason-sport rivalry).. Funny thing is half of yall living in USA for a better life..ironic

Obviously nobody here will back JA over T&T when we square off, that point is irrelevant.  In this game we didn't play them so by your standards you don't have a good reason to hate them. 
The camaraderie between T&T and JA exists, whether you feel it or not.
How many of your USA buddies ever backed T&T?

Thats not the point.. my point was why I am being attacked for hating Jam football because I backing USA over them when many backing Jam because they hating on USA for possibly for personal and stupid reasons that dont need to be discussed rather than Footballing reasons only like myself

Anyway they out..good riddance.


That's an interesting observation.   I said last week there is a strong anti US sentiment on this board.  Facts are facts, the US is far and away a superior team to any caribbean nation.  We only fooling we self.  I love my T&T tuh the end but whenever we play the US, I just hoping fuh two things:
1. Not get embarrased
2. At least be competitive

Wins are out of the question...We'll never beat them again and if we do, it will be a once is ah decade thing. 

Doh study people, I not against Jamaica and neither I am against the US.  When they both go WC, I supporting CONCACAF period....  In the GC, I supporting the US because I live here.  Some people have valid reasons for backing Jamaica and that's fine but nobody should criticize you for supporting who you want....
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: FireBrand on June 20, 2011, 10:31:13 AM
Rel bickering going on amongst de Trinis on this site over a JA match, but what do our bredrens from yard have to say....? :-X 
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Peong on June 20, 2011, 10:46:20 AM
That's an interesting observation.   I said last week there is a strong anti US sentiment on this board.  Facts are facts, the US is far and away a superior team to any caribbean nation.  We only fooling we self.  I love my T&T tuh the end but whenever we play the US, I just hoping fuh two things:
1. Not get embarrased
2. At least be competitive

Wins are out of the question...We'll never beat them again and if we do, it will be a once is ah decade thing. 

Doh study people, I not against Jamaica and neither I am against the US.  When they both go WC, I supporting CONCACAF period....  In the GC, I supporting the US because I live here.  Some people have valid reasons for backing Jamaica and that's fine but nobody should criticize you for supporting who you want....

Wise words.
So what do you conclude when you learn that small mag was the first one to level criticism?

Bury them USA

f**k all of allyuh.. you think them nasty shithongs would have supported us? .. STEWPS
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Fyzoman on June 20, 2011, 10:49:52 AM
davidephraim, SM, Arimaman make real good observations....though Smalls I could see where JC et al coming from with the cockroaches comment:)
That being said, I glad US beat Jamaica!! Ent I entitled to feel way?!?!?
And Smalls ah go put some ah yuh quotes below because it echoes how I see things too...


SM Quotes: Thats not the point.. my point was why I am being attacked for hating Jam football because I backing USA over them when many backing Jam because they hating on USA for possibly for personal and stupid reasons that dont need to be discussed rather than Footballing reasons only like myself.

My problem is allyuh are the hypocrites... Why everyone hate the USA? because a man score a goal from half line? I think its a different reason but I not going to say it here because you will be red faced...telling me I have to grow up(at least I hating for the right reason-sport rivalry).. Funny thing is half of yall living in USA for a better life..ironic


Yuh see dat last sentence though, it could open ah mother c8&t can ah fu%^ing worms....is the truth though;)


Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: KND2 on June 20, 2011, 10:56:36 AM
Jamaica did not have the confidence that they could take it to the US and win. they sit back too much. They should come out and play, if you lose you lose but at least take the opportunity to put a good showing and build some confidence.

They put too much respect to the US.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: kicker on June 20, 2011, 10:58:23 AM
Why we cyar just let people support who they want?

Some ppl real judgmental dread...
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Midknight on June 20, 2011, 11:03:20 AM
don't give a flying fig one way or the other, but it's interesting that half the people who are against Small Mag also have a problem with the idea of supporting the USA or even Mexico against European. South American and especially African teams on the premise of Concacaf unity, more WCQ spots etc.

Don't think the vitriol was necessary though...

I was really hoping Jamaica would do better, but can't really say I was supporting them. Might sound stupid, but my stance might be recently coloured by the last Jcan I met who came down here and spent all of the hour I was in her company turning her nose up at everything Trinidadian.

Then again, there are stupid people everywhere. Especially on the internet.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 20, 2011, 11:09:11 AM
This was never about who should support who..is the way SM came across with his statement about "Jamaicans" that get ppl riled up. We all have our reasons for who we support...just as SM would never support JA in football, Ican never see myself supporting the US in football. It doh matter where I live, that has nothing to do with football, I did not come here for footballing reasons and I have no problems with the USA, I doh hate the "USA" as much as SM hate Jamaica! lol

Big Up!
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: just cool on June 20, 2011, 11:18:52 AM
Sensitive Nancies.. I'm reffering to Jamrock Football or anyone associated to its Football... I dont hate anyone from Jamaica..I hate their football team when they play us .. I dont want to see them do anything good.. they are our main rivals

My problem is allyuh are the hypocrits... Why everyone hate the USA? because a man score a goal from half line? I think its a different reason but I not going to say it here because you will be red faced...telling me I have to grow up(at least I hating for the right reason-sport rivalry).. Funny thing is half of yall living in USA for a better life..ironic


 
Yuteman, no one eh sensitive as you think, it's just that you didn't make it clear where you was directing your venom. it's not like you said "jamaican football fans" or players, you simply said "jamaicans" and there was no differentiation from football rivalry or personal dislike, so in reality you're the only one to blame.

yuh think it cool tuh call ppl such awful names as cockroaches in regard to ah whole nation on the www? if you do then you need tuh see ah head doctor. ppl have tuh call yuh out on that , they just have too, BC it's truly nasty and condescending.

BTW, i guess since we livin here we should support the USA when they play T&T as well since we owe dear old uncle sam our lives and a debt of gratitude for saving us from laventille's scorching hot sun and abject poverty?

ah guess for that reason alone poor little booby zamora and JLLoyde should be gratefully to the dear queen and say fack T&T, BC they born and raised in england and eat the queen's food and now want tuh turn on she tuh represent T&T ah country that gave them squat! bad call kid.

yuh eh see the island gone tuh sh!ts since we ( the cream of the crop) ride out ? (total brain drain) till allyuh down there is left with only the dregs who had no drive and no ambition. we who left and came out here, are here BC our parents left looking for a better life for themselves and their kids, while others left on their own fleeing ah ded end situation. you think it's easy for poor ambitious ppl tuh make it in a former colony? not every body born wid gold spoon in dey mouth like you fella, ( or so yuh want ppl tuh believe).

plus i have no problem livin here in the U.S. and backin caribbean teams since they've been robbing our resources for over ah half century, and if them big crooks up in all dem rich neighborhoods don't want tuh share the wealth, then what the fack yuh want ppl tuh do, stay in trinidad and underachieve ?

yuh must open yuh eyes the next time yuh go to ah USA T&T game in trinidad and yuh will see all dem yankees in dey short pants and their stars and stripes Tshirts rooting for the U.S MNT, and guess what? they livin right there in trinidad and makin big money off we own resources too boot, and have the nerve tuh root against we in we own back yard.  stewwppss if they could do it then we could more than do it too.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: jamaica2099 on June 20, 2011, 11:27:40 AM
Personally, I bet against T&T on football where BM, Sam and other haters matter. So I'm like them by simply returning the favour. The other times I bet against T&T matters when they play against the smaller Caribbean nations and obviously Jamaica's Reggae Boyz (which other Trinis do when Jamaica does the same). But when it comes to teams like the US and England etc. my Caribbean allegiance switches.

Now depending on T&T's World Cup qualifying draw in July. I'm hoping T&T comes out of their group and hopefully end up in Jamaica's semi-final group to continue the Caribbean rivalry. ;D
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on June 20, 2011, 11:32:48 AM
To be fair, I actually think Jamaica did not play too badly, considering they were playing in front of a pro-US crowd. As has been expressed on this thread, Jamaica's main shortcoming is that they couldn't find any answer to the midfield pressure that the US was creating whenever Jamaica had possession. As soon as the American midfielders began to pressure the Jamaican defenders, they began to resort to the long ball, which the US back four was able to deal with with a minimum of fuss.

In fact I would even go as far to say that the American midfield's out-hustling of its Jamaican counterpart and its better overall organization proved to be decisive.

With that said, Jamaica has a lot that it can build on and is certainly the best team in the CFU right now.

Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 20, 2011, 11:32:56 AM
Sensitive Nancies.. I'm reffering to Jamrock Football or anyone associated to its Football... I dont hate anyone from Jamaica..I hate their football team when they play us .. I dont want to see them do anything good.. they are our main rivals

My problem is allyuh are the hypocrits... Why everyone hate the USA? because a man score a goal from half line? I think its a different reason but I not going to say it here because you will be red faced...telling me I have to grow up(at least I hating for the right reason-sport rivalry).. Funny thing is half of yall living in USA for a better life..ironic


 
Yuteman, no one eh sensitive as you think, it's just that you didn't make it clear where you was directing your venom. it's not like you said "jamaican football fans" or players, you simply said "jamaicans" and there was no differentiation from football rivalry or personal dislike, so in reality you're the only one to blame.

yuh think it cool tuh call ppl such awful names as cockroaches in regard to ah whole nation on the www? if you do then you need tuh see ah head doctor. ppl have tuh call yuh out on that , they just have too, BC it's truly nasty and condescending.

BTW, i guess since we livin here we should support the USA when they play T&T as well since we owe dear old uncle sam our lives for saving us from laventille's scorching hot sun and abject poverty?

ah guess for that reason alone poor little booby zamora and JLLoyde should be gratefully to the dear queen and say fack T&T, BC they born and raised in england and eat the queen's food and now want tuh turn on she tuh represent T&T ah country that gave them squat! bad call kid.

yuh eh see the island gone tuh sh!ts since we ( the cream of the crop left T&T) ride out ? (total brain drain) till allyuh down there is left with only the dregs who had no drive and no ambition. we who left and came out here, are here BC our parents left looking for a better life for themselves and their kids, while others left on their own fleeing ah ded end situation. you think it's easy for poor ambitious ppl tuh make it in a former colony, not every body born wid gold spoon in dey mouth like you fella, ( or so yuh want ppl tuh believe).

plus i have no problem livin here in the U.S. and backin caribbean teams since they've been robbing our resources for over ah half century, and if them big crooks up in all dem rich neighborhoods don't want tuh share the wealth, then what the fack yuh want ppl tuh do, stay in trinidad and underachieve ?

yuh must open yuh eyes the next time yuh go to ah USA T&T game in trinidad and yuh will see all dem yankees in dey short pant and their stars and stripes rooting for the U.S MNT, and guess what? they livin right there in trinidad and makin big money off we own resources too boot, and have the nerve tuh root against we in we own back yard.  stewwppss if they could do it we could more than do it too.

All that but once again Hypocricy.. So when the people that said they hate USA why you didnt say this to them about not identifying who they talking about?

So when they say come on Jamaica ! I hate USA isnt it the same as me saying come on USA , f**k them jamaicans?

And too your cockroaches usage that you didnt like... you think Liverpool fans like being called Scousers?

I not saying it was right of me to say but heat of the moment footballing hatred for Jamaica causes that... the Jamaican cockroaches/ Liverpool scousers etc etc.. footballing words attached to teams that I use.. it wasnt directed to your wife or kids that you were complaining about.. I dont hate Jamaica the people, just anything to do with their football including their die hard fans who will never support TnT when allyuh salivating over them

Lemme go watch Cool Runnings

Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: just cool on June 20, 2011, 11:44:44 AM
Small mag, don't get me wrong yute, you have ah right tuh luv or hate who yuh want, whether football or other wise. the problem comes when yuh start callin ppl dem kinda stinkin names. trust meh yute, it does come across real venomous and malicious. it's like yuh have ah deep seated hate festering in yuh soul bro.

that's how it come across.  real ting, no kidding.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Peong on June 20, 2011, 11:48:51 AM
Small didn't call all Jamaicans cockroaches, he was talkin about the yardie trolls who post on this forum. 
And he didn't say f**k Jamaicans, he said "f**k all of allyuh" as in the Trinis in the thread who were backing Jamaica.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 20, 2011, 11:51:06 AM
Lastly, to bilaterally call all jams cockroaches and then defend it on some tribal ting bout Manu and Liverpool is quite dumb. It is no surprise dat so much man, especially those who have traveled, was quick to stand up for their Caribbean counterparts because on most teams abroad, unless country specific, it does have two yard man, a vincy, two spanish, two trini and ah african.

Lol  :rotfl:  

Ah had a nice loud chuckle at dis one because is so true.  Small Mag just young and lacking perspective.  Just like soldiers of different races and background uniting on the battlefield, so too it is when immigrants find deyself in a "hostile" situation it becomes much easier to recognize the ties that bind than the petty differences.  

All that aside, I know I wasn't the only Liverpool man backing United over Barca last month  :D
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Socapro on June 20, 2011, 11:56:11 AM
Small didn't call all Jamaicans cockroaches, he was talkin about the yardie trolls who post on this forum. 
And he didn't say f**k Jamaicans, he said "f**k all of allyuh" as in the Trinis in the thread who were backing Jamaica.

Nothing is wrong with anything SM posted!! He's entitled to state his point of view! Football is all about rivalry & passion and we should not take everything folks post on the internet literally unless we have nothing better to do!
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: jamaica2099 on June 20, 2011, 11:59:27 AM
Jamaica did not have the confidence that they could take it to the US and win. they sit back too much. They should come out and play, if you lose you lose but at least take the opportunity to put a good showing and build some confidence.

They put too much respect to the US.
And so the learning process continues for our young budding coach whom so far has surpass expectations. ;D


As a manager


As of 19 June 201`.
Team    Nation   From            To               Matches   Won   Drawn     Lost   Win %
Jamaica   Jamaica  20 Nov 2007   20 Dec 2007   2     2      0          0   100.0
Jamaica   Jamaica  20 Oct  2008   20 Nov 2008   3        2      0          0   100.0
Jamaica   Jamaica  16 June 2009   Present          25     15      2          7   60.0
Career Total                                                  30     20      2          8   66.0
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 20, 2011, 12:09:05 PM
Both teams played with heart, but I didn't like El Salvador's gamesmanship.  Both teams went VERY close in extra time.  That was an entertaining game.

Both ah dem... El Salvador more guilty, but I swear is something inherent to the latin game that they feel they have to exaggerate every little contact, crowd the ref on every call that goes against them and otherwise just use whatever cloying tactics they could to extract an advantage.  As much as I don't like it, it it only rarely happened I could roll mih eyes and move on... but to watch an entire match with all of this going on real trying, I eh go lie.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: just cool on June 20, 2011, 12:26:47 PM
Both teams played with heart, but I didn't like El Salvador's gamesmanship.  Both teams went VERY close in extra time.  That was an entertaining game.

Both ah dem... El Salvador more guilty, but I swear is something inherent to the latin game that they feel they have to exaggerate every little contact, crowd the ref on every call that goes against them and otherwise just use whatever cloying tactics they could to extract an advantage.  As much as I don't like it, it it only rarely happened I could roll mih eyes and move on... but to watch an entire match with all of this going on real trying, I eh go lie.
You alone! they love tuh cheat. where else in the world you would see ah striker handling a ball out of a goal post like a goal keeper? stewpsss that's why i dislike latin american football so much Bc they make the game look ugly with all the shenanigans , the men and dem miss the meaning of the beautiful game, since they would do anything to win.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 20, 2011, 12:42:01 PM
Both teams played with heart, but I didn't like El Salvador's gamesmanship.  Both teams went VERY close in extra time.  That was an entertaining game.

Both ah dem... El Salvador more guilty, but I swear is something inherent to the latin game that they feel they have to exaggerate every little contact, crowd the ref on every call that goes against them and otherwise just use whatever cloying tactics they could to extract an advantage.  As much as I don't like it, it it only rarely happened I could roll mih eyes and move on... but to watch an entire match with all of this going on real trying, I eh go lie.

I swear, if El Salvador had won that game...that would have forced me to support the USMNT for the first time in football, but thank goodness that did not happen and now I can keep my dignity!  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: kicker on June 20, 2011, 01:08:25 PM

All that aside, I know I wasn't the only Liverpool man backing United over Barca last month  :D

That soundin' like the effects of a la liga - EPL rivalry that has developed of late (maybe not as late as I think) among fans from neutral territories.  If yuh favorite side is a spanish side, yuh go back the neutral team from La Liga and vice versa...

In non-neutral circles where the true hate brews though yuh will probably see a different pattern.  Willing to bet that most passionate die hards from Liverpool were backing Barca, just like die hard madridistas were backing United...

Last C.L. when Inter beat Barca, they celebrated in Madrid like they themselves won the tourney, all because Barca missed out on the chance to win the trophy at the Bernabeu....

Nothing more than good entertainment at the end of the day...
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: FF on June 20, 2011, 01:48:04 PM
This was never about who should support who..is the way SM came across with his statement about "Jamaicans" that get ppl riled up. We all have our reasons for who we support...just as SM would never support JA in football, Ican never see myself supporting the US in football. It doh matter where I live, that has nothing to do with football, I did not come here for footballing reasons and I have no problems with the USA, I doh hate the "USA" as much as SM hate Jamaica! lol

Big Up!

i with you on this one... i was actually backing both of dem to lose... well it was more 60-40 or 55-45

both small mag does post outta timing.. he have to understand dat de "arsehole" jakans online is just a small minority
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Zeppo on June 20, 2011, 01:57:52 PM
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Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: kicker on June 20, 2011, 01:59:20 PM
Dempsey celebrate da 6 yard tap-in like just score a solo run against Brazil. 
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 20, 2011, 03:05:32 PM
Dempsey celebrate da 6 yard tap-in like just score a solo run against Brazil. 

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: dais relief after the sitter he let slip in the Guade match  ;D

Big Up!
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 20, 2011, 06:12:26 PM
I was really surprise at JA play in the 2nd half where they seem to fall flat. The first half was okay and they should have scored first, but the chance went over bar. Both teams looked lack lustered. Could be all the travelling. But that is part international football culture. But this outing by JA has more positives for them than negatives. Their ultimate goal in making the HEX and Rio. And they seem to be on their way. At least they have a good nucleus of players that the coach has been working with. Good luck to them.


Now TT  ........................................................ to be continued.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Big Magician on June 21, 2011, 05:35:29 AM
well done USA
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: andre samuel on June 21, 2011, 05:36:24 AM

yuh eh see the island gone tuh sh!ts since we ( the cream of the crop) ride out ? (total brain drain) till allyuh down there is left with only the dregs who had no drive and no ambition. we who left and came out here, are here BC our parents left looking for a better life for themselves and their kids, while others left on their own fleeing ah ded end situation. you think it's easy for poor ambitious ppl tuh make it in a former colony? not every body born wid gold spoon in dey mouth like you fella, ( or so yuh want ppl tuh believe).


Cream of the crop? Your spelling of "Jamaica" in your subject window highlights that, lol.  

How did this thread reach to the disgusting level of you claiming that being in Trinidad is a dead end situation??

What facts do you have to support this? Crime? Poverty? Doesn't this also exist in the US?  I am not saying that Trinidad is a sanctuary, but don't make statements to give the impression that the US is one. It is just a matter of what the media chooses to highlight.

Going back to the matter of the Jamaica vs USA game, everyone deserves the right to support who they want.  It have plenty people who supporting India in the Test series against West Indies, So What??

I personally supported Jamaica only because i hate the USA's footballing arrogance. It disgusts me the way that the US commentators claimed that "Jamaica are a better team because they have seven players who playing in the MLS so they understand tactics now rather than just pure athleticism"

Jamaica simply showed the US too much respect and gave them too much room to dictate the flow of the game.  

SAM, this was not a US 'B' team, this was the best they had to offer.

Small Mag, plenty J'cans supported TnT at WC 2006

Funny as this may sound.........I know of plenty American fans who supported TnT in Germany during our three games, so it goes back to the point of people having the right to support who they want.  

Having said that, this was the first time i supported a Jamaican team since they qualified in '98.

ah love it!!

Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 21, 2011, 06:54:41 AM
Ah late but......steups!!  Damn J'cans cyar do anything right!!   :devil: ;D
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: jamaica2099 on June 21, 2011, 07:31:55 AM
Ah late but......steups!!  Damn J'cans cyar do anything right!!   :devil: ;D
True dat. But what do you say about T&T during the Digicel Cup in 2010 when T&T cyar get it right for the second straight time against Grenada. A Grenada whom were humiliated at the Gold Cup.
Pray that T&T tops their group when the 2014 World Cup qualifiers begins in September. Because from what I understand. Only the group winners will advance to the third round.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(CONCACAF)

And this is where Trinis should start  :nailbiting: :thinking: :praying:.

Jamaica coach Tappa, otherwise, will have 14 months to play friendlies and the 2012 Digicel Cup (which I believe will be played in June 2012) to tweak the Reggae Boyz for their first World Cup qualifying match in September 2012. Now if this full strength Digicel Cup/Gold Cup Reggae Boyz squad was anything to go by. Wait until  ;) ;) ;D ;D 
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: FF on June 21, 2011, 07:39:33 AM
Ah late but......steups!!  Damn J'cans cyar do anything right!!   :devil: ;D
True dat. But what do you say about T&T during the Digicel Cup in 2010 when T&T cyar get it right for the second straight time against Grenada. A Grenada whom were humiliated at the Gold Cup.
Pray that T&T tops their group when the 2014 World Cup qualifiers begins in September. Because from what I understand. Only the group winners will advance to the third round.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(CONCACAF)

And this is where Trinis should start  :nailbiting: :thinking: :praying:.

Jamaica coach Tappa, otherwise, will have 14 months to play friendlies and the 2012 Digicel Cup (which I believe will be played in June 2012) to tweak the Reggae Boyz for their first World Cup qualifying match in September 2012. Now if this full strength Digicel Cup/Gold Cup Reggae Boyz squad was anything to go by. Wait until  ;) ;) ;D ;D 


right now we can't do anything. period.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on June 21, 2011, 07:42:11 AM
USA USA USA, USA USA USA, USA USA USA..... :beermug:
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: jamaica2099 on June 21, 2011, 08:24:55 AM
USA USA USA, USA USA USA, USA USA USA..... :beermug:
Wait! Are you a Trini or American. Or Trini/American for that matter. Because I still understand your support against Jamaica's Reggae Boyz whom have still exceeded expectations at the Gold Cup. ;D
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Sam on June 21, 2011, 09:31:23 AM
Wait! Are you a Trini or American. Or Trini/American for that matter. Because I still understand your support against Jamaica's Reggae Boyz whom have still exceeded expectations at the Gold Cup. ;D

Would you had support T&T if we were in that position !!!  I doubt that.

And many others on the Reggae Boys supports would have done de same, Mosiah comes to mind.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: jamaica2099 on June 21, 2011, 09:39:34 AM
Wait! Are you a Trini or American. Or Trini/American for that matter. Because I still understand your support against Jamaica's Reggae Boyz whom have still exceeded expectations at the Gold Cup. ;D

Would you had support T&T if we were in that position !!!  I doubt that.

And many others on the Reggae Boys supports would have done de same, Mosiah comes to mind.
Redouble your effort and check page 2 of this same thread.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: jahkingdom on June 21, 2011, 10:49:20 AM
jamaica2099. don't fallow any idiots who talking, they trying to draw people in their back and fort garbage attitude and then talk about troll. i am just laughing cause allot of these players wont make the world cup squad, but it also show the dept of our team, Humphrey should be comming in on the wing and maybe Jermain beckford partnering cummings upfront, along with other additions. who knows, maybe even Marlon king rejoin if he keeps up his scoring form. the team was not mentally ready for this game, i know we can beat US, but then again you in a do or die game against US in US. big up to the intelligent trinis and for get the chupid ones.   
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Zeppo on June 21, 2011, 11:50:10 AM
Because I still understand your support against Jamaica's Reggae Boyz whom have still exceeded expectations at the Gold Cup.

Jamaica didn't exceed Whitmore's expectations:

“We came here to at least be in the semifinal.” (http://www.socceramerica.com/article/42593/usa-faces-confident-reggae-boyz-in-gold-cup.html)
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: jamaica2099 on June 21, 2011, 12:13:37 PM
Because I still understand your support against Jamaica's Reggae Boyz whom have still exceeded expectations at the Gold Cup.

Jamaica didn't exceed Whitmore's expectations:

“We came here to at least be in the semifinal.” (http://www.socceramerica.com/article/42593/usa-faces-confident-reggae-boyz-in-gold-cup.html)
That was the JFF's mandate which Tappa was trying to fulfill. Ask Lapaty what TTFF told him.
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 21, 2011, 12:54:25 PM
Wait! Are you a Trini or American. Or Trini/American for that matter. Because I still understand your support against Jamaica's Reggae Boyz whom have still exceeded expectations at the Gold Cup. ;D

Would you had support T&T if we were in that position !!!  I doubt that.

And many others on the Reggae Boys supports would have done de same, Mosiah comes to mind.

Sam yu does study moassiah.. he is a faggot No one doh even listen to him.. he gal horning him wid a trini frm long time.

war
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: just cool on June 21, 2011, 02:24:31 PM

yuh eh see the island gone tuh sh!ts since we ( the cream of the crop) ride out ? (total brain drain) till allyuh down there is left with only the dregs who had no drive and no ambition. we who left and came out here, are here BC our parents left looking for a better life for themselves and their kids, while others left on their own fleeing ah ded end situation. you think it's easy for poor ambitious ppl tuh make it in a former colony? not every body born wid gold spoon in dey mouth like you fella, ( or so yuh want ppl tuh believe).


Cream of the crop? Your spelling of "Jamaica" in your subject window highlights that, lol.  

How did this thread reach to the disgusting level of you claiming that being in Trinidad is a dead end situation??

What facts do you have to support this? Crime? Poverty? Doesn't this also exist in the US?  I am not saying that Trinidad is a sanctuary, but don't make statements to give the impression that the US is one. It is just a matter of what the media chooses to highlight.

Going back to the matter of the Jamaica vs USA game, everyone deserves the right to support who they want.  It have plenty people who supporting India in the Test series against West Indies, So What??

I personally supported Jamaica only because i hate the USA's footballing arrogance. It disgusts me the way that the US commentators claimed that "Jamaica are a better team because they have seven players who playing in the MLS so they understand tactics now rather than just pure athleticism"

Jamaica simply showed the US too much respect and gave them too much room to dictate the flow of the game.  

SAM, this was not a US 'B' team, this was the best they had to offer.

Small Mag, plenty J'cans supported TnT at WC 2006

Funny as this may sound.........I know of plenty American fans who supported TnT in Germany during our three games, so it goes back to the point of people having the right to support who they want.  

Having said that, this was the first time i supported a Jamaican team since they qualified in '98.

ah love it!!


Weys dah one andre ? doh sweat the small stuff nah man, ah find allyuh locals trinis does get allyuh feathers ruffled to easy man. is yuh fellow local based who start the ting anyway when he talked about the foreign based in ah way like we're ungrateful hungry starvin ppl who couldn't wait tuh leave T&T and should be indebted to uncle sam, and all i did was ah rebuttal and allyuh catching feelings.

yuh misunderstood the post fardder, the truth of the matter is that T&T did suffer ah massive brain drain in the early 80ies to mid 90ies, it's not like the island is ah waste, it's just that "most" of the extremely ambitious, skillful and cultured ppl left when we suffered that great recession (or more like a depression IMO) in the 80ies and 90ies.

as for the typo, breds please, i actually expected better from you. yuh mean you would judge a man's intellectual prowess based on a typo? ::) then what would you say for most literary arts majors and top notch journalist who make tons of grammatical errors......... knowingly (cyar spell for sh!t),

then they should be considered real fackin duncey head bats wasting all dat money on tuition and still can't spell. i worked for a major media network and let me tell you, the editors had more than their share of bad grammar and misspellings to have them working some serious over time, so please don't buss my balls for a misspelling.           :beermug:
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on June 21, 2011, 03:26:38 PM
Because I still understand your support against Jamaica's Reggae Boyz whom have still exceeded expectations at the Gold Cup.

Jamaica didn't exceed Whitmore's expectations:

“We came here to at least be in the semifinal.” (http://www.socceramerica.com/article/42593/usa-faces-confident-reggae-boyz-in-gold-cup.html)
That was the JFF's mandate which Tappa was trying to fulfill. Ask Lapaty what TTFF told him.

Why would Zeppo care what TTFF told Latapy. He is American and supports America over Trinidad and Tobago. What Trinidad have to do with that?

Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: biga84 on June 21, 2011, 03:58:04 PM
Dempsey celebrate da 6 yard tap-in like just score a solo run against Brazil. 
hahahahaha   :rotfl:

Dempsey is a kaka hole...he think he is Deshawn Stephenson or something?...he score a tap in as you say and he running cussing and ting  ::)
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: jamaica2099 on June 22, 2011, 07:35:09 AM
Because I still understand your support against Jamaica's Reggae Boyz whom have still exceeded expectations at the Gold Cup.

Jamaica didn't exceed Whitmore's expectations:

“We came here to at least be in the semifinal.” (http://www.socceramerica.com/article/42593/usa-faces-confident-reggae-boyz-in-gold-cup.html)
That was the JFF's mandate which Tappa was trying to fulfill. Ask Lapaty what TTFF told him.

Why would Zeppo care what TTFF told Latapy. He is American and supports America over Trinidad and Tobago. What Trinidad have to do with that?


Here is an idea.
If FIFA decides to apply the same July 2011 ranking rules as the (AFC) Asian Football Confederation to seed the teams for World Cup qualifiers what are the chances of T&T topping their group in the next round and advancing to the third round. Since Grenada will still rank below T&T I don't see them in your group. So the next options are Canada, El Salvador, Haiti or Panama and 2 other smaller Caribbean nations. Or maybe, T&T gets the luck and draw three smaller nations.  
Just putting something in the pot. (No pun intended.) ;)
  
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 22, 2011, 07:39:47 AM
Ah late but......steups!!  Damn J'cans cyar do anything right!!   :devil: ;D
True dat. But what do you say about T&T during the Digicel Cup in 2010 when T&T cyar get it right for the second straight time against Grenada. A Grenada whom were humiliated at the Gold Cup.
Pray that T&T tops their group when the 2014 World Cup qualifiers begins in September. Because from what I understand. Only the group winners will advance to the third round.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(CONCACAF)

And this is where Trinis should start  :nailbiting: :thinking: :praying:.

Jamaica coach Tappa, otherwise, will have 14 months to play friendlies and the 2012 Digicel Cup (which I believe will be played in June 2012) to tweak the Reggae Boyz for their first World Cup qualifying match in September 2012. Now if this full strength Digicel Cup/Gold Cup Reggae Boyz squad was anything to go by. Wait until  ;) ;) ;D ;D 

Thou fool.....I was just being tongue in cheek and mischievous.  I was actually supporting J'ca in this game cuz like every body on this forum knows I is a USA hater......

Steups.....is posters like you does make it hard to back all yuh....
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: jamaica2099 on June 22, 2011, 01:28:49 PM
Ah late but......steups!!  Damn J'cans cyar do anything right!!   :devil: ;D
True dat. But what do you say about T&T during the Digicel Cup in 2010 when T&T cyar get it right for the second straight time against Grenada. A Grenada whom were humiliated at the Gold Cup.
Pray that T&T tops their group when the 2014 World Cup qualifiers begins in September. Because from what I understand. Only the group winners will advance to the third round.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(CONCACAF)

And this is where Trinis should start  :nailbiting: :thinking: :praying:.

Jamaica coach Tappa, otherwise, will have 14 months to play friendlies and the 2012 Digicel Cup (which I believe will be played in June 2012) to tweak the Reggae Boyz for their first World Cup qualifying match in September 2012. Now if this full strength Digicel Cup/Gold Cup Reggae Boyz squad was anything to go by. Wait until  ;) ;) ;D ;D 

Thou fool.....I was just being tongue in cheek and mischievous.  I was actually supporting J'ca in this game cuz like every body on this forum knows I is a USA hater......

Steups.....is posters like you does make it hard to back all yuh....
Wow! You really found something in my factual post offensive. ???
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 22, 2011, 04:57:37 PM
...I guess after Panama's fine showing in their victory over the usa the other day, this is the night they go suddenly forget how to play good football. Mexico-usa final.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 22, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
That is a red card for Howard. The ref trying to frustrate Panama early


http://www.youtube.com/v/ct_BrgNgt0k
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 22, 2011, 05:52:45 PM
It's very interesting to hear the choice of words that are being used by the FSC commentators as regards to fouls and tackles made by both teams  ::)

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 22, 2011, 05:54:16 PM
Univision commentators really calling out th eref on his calls.  I bet a Panama player getting send off before this game done.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2011, 05:56:07 PM
It's very interesting to hear the choice of words that are being used by the FSC commentators as regards to fouls and tackles made by both teams  ::)

Big Up!

This is why I watching on Univision.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 22, 2011, 05:59:01 PM
Is Panama really better than Jamaica? The dude with the big head now say so?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 22, 2011, 05:59:38 PM
It's very interesting to hear the choice of words that are being used by the FSC commentators as regards to fouls and tackles made by both teams  ::)

Big Up!

This is why I watching on Univision.

Yeah, I switched to Univision too although ah picking up the commentary only in bits and pieces.  The bias by the ESPN commentators is ridiculous.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 22, 2011, 06:15:33 PM
This ref setting this game up to have a fight.  >:(
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2011, 06:24:45 PM
Freddy Adu?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 22, 2011, 06:28:37 PM
oh wait this still going on??  Ah only going to watch if the US look like dey losing.... :devil: ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 22, 2011, 06:31:08 PM
Freddy Adu?

I think is a good move. The US showing -0 creativity. Although at the same time I think Bradley gonna lose his job this summer.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 22, 2011, 06:34:16 PM
cut they arse panama  :flamethrower:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2011, 06:35:09 PM
I watching on FSC again. They shocked that if you push a man down on a potential breakaway, is a yellow, but a lil jostle in the area? of course!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 22, 2011, 06:36:25 PM
this game still on?  Link!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 22, 2011, 06:37:16 PM
Is rel pace from Panama!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 22, 2011, 06:40:58 PM
I watching on FSC again. They shocked that if you push a man down on a potential breakaway, is a yellow, but a lil jostle in the area? of course!

Quote
U.S. SOCCER
Yellow card to Bocanegra for a very very very soft foul. #USMNT
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 22, 2011, 06:41:05 PM
Freddy Adu!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 22, 2011, 06:42:39 PM
Link meh nah..... ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 22, 2011, 06:43:18 PM
Freddy Adu!!!!!

Them men doh like Freddy at all boy.  :(   The last player they celebrate with and Dempsey bigging up Donovan.  >:(

See the courage to play that ball from the middle. Donovan would have played a possession ball.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 22, 2011, 06:43:49 PM
Jack gone no more link...scheeupss
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 22, 2011, 06:44:14 PM
fork man! dey score

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link

http://veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4dd6d3f474cb6
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 22, 2011, 06:45:51 PM
Thanks D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 22, 2011, 06:46:09 PM
Jack gone no more link...scheeupss

Take your pick

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=119177&part=sports (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=119177&part=sports)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 22, 2011, 06:47:55 PM
I watching on FSC again. They shocked that if you push a man down on a potential breakaway, is a yellow, but a lil jostle in the area? of course!

 ...and dize if yuh could even call it a lil' jostle.  All de man do is stand his ground and tim "argumentative" howard flail he self all over de man and is a yellow.  Loud fackin' steups....these american flag-waving, so-called commentators is de absolute WORST!  
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 22, 2011, 06:48:55 PM
Thanks E......Panama should get a goal. 
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 22, 2011, 06:49:59 PM
Panama playing a nice brand though. As for Freddy, he will survive.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 22, 2011, 06:54:44 PM
Goodson want a beat down or what?  Pointing in man face and thing.  scheeups..
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 22, 2011, 06:59:16 PM
So Howard should have been red carded?   I missed that play.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 22, 2011, 06:59:37 PM
USA did not deserve this result. Panama should feel hard lucked, but the left back is at fault cannot give that much room in that part of the field.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 22, 2011, 07:00:00 PM
Hard luck Panama. They have improved big time!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 22, 2011, 07:00:57 PM
Hard luck Panama. They have improved big time!!!!

and we have dropped , i remember it had a time we could hit panama 6 , now them days gone
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 22, 2011, 07:01:53 PM
Panama playing a nice brand though. As for Freddy, he will survive.
Panama coulda take proper control of this game if they woulda continue their smart, quick passing into the us 18. They was knockin' de ball well throughout the field but was almost giving up on themselves without some direct and purposeful play in the us defensive third.  Ah rel vex.  Both of Panama wingbacks need to take some blame fuh dat goal.....the leftty shoulda shut down on donovan instead of just relinquishing so much damned space and the righty, well, he needed to do a better job on denying dempsey access to dat cross.

Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 22, 2011, 07:16:42 PM
Panama playing a nice brand though. As for Freddy, he will survive.
Panama coulda take proper control of this game if they woulda continue their smart, quick passing into the us 18. They was knockin' de ball well throughout the field but was almost giving up on themselves without some direct and purposeful play in the us defensive third.  Ah rel vex.  Both of Panama wingbacks need to take some blame fuh dat goal.....the leftty shoulda shut down on donovan instead of just relinquishing so much damned space and the righty, well, he needed to do a better job on denying dempsey access to dat cross.




Yeah, he drop off Donovan like it was Robben who collected dat pass! And then had the gall tuh stand dey wit his hands behind his back waiting for the pass tuh come in! Stupid, cowardly defense! Go Mehico!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Cocorite on June 22, 2011, 07:19:18 PM
I felt Panama was playing too cautious. Good zone defending but too cautious. Not enough surging runs into USA 18

When is the Mexico/Honduras game?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 22, 2011, 08:10:51 PM
Good display by Panama, but a quick breakaway and smart play by Adu was the dagger for them...still not impress with the US, but give them credit, they get the results when it matters!  :beermug:

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 22, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
Machado... the Pana RB is ah waste ah break.  Twice on overlapping runs on offense man lay him off nice fuh ah cross into de box and fluff it.  Then on the goal he fail to get between the man and the ball on the far post.  Keeper was kinda hanging out in no-man's land... but can't discount the quality of the pass by Donovan... nor the quality of the initial ball by Adu.  Pana LB drop off Donovan like is Messi he was marking.  steups...


Second game going nice... 0-0 at the half on Univision.  Honduras knocking ah nice confident brand of ball... but Chicharito arguably should have been given a penalty.  It was close though, so even if ah was rooting fuh Mexico ah couldn't argue dat.  That said, I want the winner of this match to manners them Americans.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2011, 09:57:20 PM
Gio!
Se la perdió!!!!!!

That is why Barca sell you...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 22, 2011, 10:15:50 PM
The pace of this extra time is amazing.
Mexico like they now wake up.
2 corners, 2 goals. 2-0 Mexico.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 22, 2011, 10:23:20 PM
Gio!
Se la perdió!!!!!!

That is why Barca sell you...

The Mexican Freddy Adu

The pace of this extra time is amazing.
Mexico like they now wake up.
2 corners, 2 goals. 2-0 Mexico.

Honduras like they bun... man switch off on DeNigris at the worst possible moment on the first goal, then two men on the near post keep Chicharito onside on the second.  Game, set, match.  Mexico makes it so hard to root fuh dem though... but this game was played very fair.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 22, 2011, 11:08:45 PM
Machado... the Pana RB is ah waste ah break.  Twice on overlapping runs on offense man lay him off nice fuh ah cross into de box and fluff it.  Then on the goal he fail to get between the man and the ball on the far post.  Keeper was kinda hanging out in no-man's land... but can't discount the quality of the pass by Donovan... nor the quality of the initial ball by Adu.  Pana LB drop off Donovan like is Messi he was marking.  steups...


Second game going nice... 0-0 at the half on Univision.  Honduras knocking ah nice confident brand of ball... but Chicharito arguably should have been given a penalty.  It was close though, so even if ah was rooting fuh Mexico ah couldn't argue dat.  That said, I want the winner of this match to manners them Americans.

Bakes, Donovan pass was brilliant. But the play by Freddy was a classic. When people talk about playing the long ball, they should remember the Freddy's pass. Quick THINKING(not speed and athleticism) and well placed pass to Donovan. The rest is history. But Panama and JA played well. Congrats to them.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 23, 2011, 12:42:57 AM
Bakes, Donovan pass was brilliant. But the play by Freddy was a classic. When people talk about playing the long ball, they should remember the Freddy's pass. Quick THINKING(not speed and athleticism) and well placed pass to Donovan. The rest is history. But Panama and JA played well. Congrats to them.

Good talk Deeks... Freddy collected the ball in midfield and immediately looked up and spotted Donovan what was a pin point diagonal 40-yard pass... ah trying to remember if it was with the outside of the right foot too?  That was the pass that commenced the bleeding... Donovan's pass was just the finishing cut.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 23, 2011, 03:44:32 AM
Hard luck Panama. They have improved big time!!!!

and we have dropped , i remember it had a time we could hit panama 6 , now them days gone

Panama has all the tools to qualify for the next world cup.It beats me how teams like El Salvador always seem to do better than them in world cup qualifiers
Title: Re: jamaiaca vs USA post thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 23, 2011, 03:58:34 AM
I havent posted on this thread since Jamaica's horrible performance against the USA. Truth be told, Jamaica would have had to play it's A game against the USA, sadly, that didnt happen. What we saw in the previous game vs Honduras is about as good as you will ever get from this Jamaica team.

We saw fluid frootball from Jca vs Honduras, who I thought was a more dangerous team than this same USA team that we lost to. The difference being the Jamaicans obviouisly came into the USA game with different tactics, and i believe they gave the USA too much respect. But that could be understood, with a chnace to play in the semis at stake. VS honduras...there was nothing at stake really.

that early miss by the JAmaican strikers paved the way for the outcome of the game.

All in all, the better prepared team won the game. Mexico USA final was always on the card, and so it turned out. Those are the two almost guaranteed spots for Brazil...honuras, panama, jamaica, Costa Rica and everybody else fighting for the other 1.5.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: injunchile on June 23, 2011, 06:13:23 AM
The Key to the w/c qualifiers is to win home games. Looking at Panama  and Honduras against the powerhouse.
 When they were pressured to the ball they threw them off their game. However the key is to be fit and maintain that intensity for 90 + minutes. Did you notice Honduras had some tall and strong defenders and Mexico was at see against them. Hustle is the name of the game. Panama has also learn that a quick counter attack is the strategy to score goals.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Peong on June 23, 2011, 10:20:12 AM
Big defensive errors by Honduras on both goals.  DeNigris' header was well-executed but Honduras' man on the post decided to run away from his spot right when they needed him there.  Talk about cuss.  And they real lapse to leave Chich all by himself at the far post on the 2nd.  That was a dotish goal to concede.

Mex - USA Part 5.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: futbolfan on June 23, 2011, 10:47:19 AM
Big defensive errors by Honduras on both goals.  DeNigris' header was well-executed but Honduras' man on the post decided to run away from his spot right when they needed him there.  Talk about cuss.  And they real lapse to leave Chich all by himself at the far post on the 2nd.  That was a dotish goal to concede.

Mex - USA Part 5.


Yeah and de US better hope dey eh collect 5 like de last time dey play in de GC final.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 23, 2011, 10:54:58 AM
Big defensive errors by Honduras on both goals.  DeNigris' header was well-executed but Honduras' man on the post decided to run away from his spot right when they needed him there.  Talk about cuss.  And they real lapse to leave Chich all by himself at the far post on the 2nd.  That was a dotish goal to concede.

Mex - USA Part 5.


Yeah and de US better hope dey eh collect 5 like de last time dey play in de GC final.

With qualification for the Confederation Cup at stake this time around, I think it would be a closer fight than the last time these 2 teams met in the finals.

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Spursy on June 23, 2011, 11:24:03 AM
I rather have USA represent concacaf again. They made me very proud making it to the finals and almost beating brazil. I never seen Mexico do anything even close to that, also whenever mexico makes the confeds they let us down badly and make this federation look cheap and sloppy.

Dempsey USA ALL THE WAY. The better organised team in my opinion.


Oh and those of you wanting to see a USA trashing.. NOT going to happen. keep dreaming.

Oh and Jamaica fans, THATS WHAT U GET! Ent you want to win your group and show off vs Honduras? Take cutarse, let the excuses start. Fact USA played them out of the pitch, Latapy FC would of done better. SHAME!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kicker on June 23, 2011, 12:30:31 PM
I rather have USA represent concacaf again. They made me very proud making it to the finals and almost beating brazil. I never seen Mexico do anything even close to that, also whenever mexico makes the confeds they let us down badly and make this federation look cheap and sloppy.

There is no limit to the amount of nonsense you write fella.  Mexico won the CONFED Cup at home in 1999...They beat Brazil in the final in a great match.

In 2005 (the Confed Cup before last) they lost to Argentina on penalities in the semi-final...and they looked very good in that game and in the entire tournament... They topped their group in that competition beating Brazil (the eventual tournament winners) in the opening round to do so.

In which CONFED Cup did they make our federation look cheap and sloppy?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: FF on June 23, 2011, 12:36:31 PM
I rather have USA represent concacaf again. They made me very proud making it to the finals and almost beating brazil. I never seen Mexico do anything even close to that, also whenever mexico makes the confeds they let us down badly and make this federation look cheap and sloppy.

Dempsey USA ALL THE WAY. The better organised team in my opinion.



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Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Observer on June 23, 2011, 12:37:16 PM
I rather have USA represent concacaf again. They made me very proud making it to the finals and almost beating brazil. I never seen Mexico do anything even close to that, also whenever mexico makes the confeds they let us down badly and make this federation look cheap and sloppy.

Dempsey USA ALL THE WAY. The better organised team in my opinion.


Oh and those of you wanting to see a USA trashing.. NOT going to happen. keep dreaming.

Oh and Jamaica fans, THATS WHAT U GET! Ent you want to win your group and show off vs Honduras? Take cutarse, let the excuses start. Fact USA played them out of the pitch, Latapy FC would of done better. SHAME!

Interesting you should say that, especially since their have only been 8 tournaments.  Mexico won the competition in 1999  ;D beating Brazil in a 4-3 thriller. Brazil had Ronaldinho. Vampeta, Ze Roberto in their squad.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 23, 2011, 12:44:43 PM
Hard luck Panama. They have improved big time!!!!

and we have dropped , i remember it had a time we could hit panama 6 , now them days gone

Panama has all the tools to qualify for the next world cup.It beats me how teams like El Salvador always seem to do better than them in world cup qualifiers

Panama are chokers.. de only team dey seems not to choke against is Jamaica and I dont see how.. I think JA finaly got a win against them couple years bak but panama really are chokers always choking..
and dont loose yu mind over my comment  ight RF is jes  its just a comment ight.. :beermug:

war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 23, 2011, 12:45:31 PM
Well this is gonna be the greatest game for me this year... GO USA.. party at my house go USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 23, 2011, 02:16:47 PM
I rather have USA represent concacaf again. They made me very proud making it to the finals and almost beating brazil. I never seen Mexico do anything even close to that, also whenever mexico makes the confeds they let us down badly and make this federation look cheap and sloppy.

Dempsey USA ALL THE WAY. The better organised team in my opinion.


Oh and those of you wanting to see a USA trashing.. NOT going to happen. keep dreaming.

Oh and Jamaica fans, THATS WHAT U GET! Ent you want to win your group and show off vs Honduras? Take cutarse, let the excuses start. Fact USA played them out of the pitch, Latapy FC would of done better. SHAME!




Love them or hate them, Mexico is the best team in CONCACAF and the most entertaining to watch.....I find whenever they representing the confederation (or if they feel they only reppin' they self) they always put up a more than respectable showing, whether it's CONFEDERATIONS' Cup, World Cup or when they have been invited in the past to partake in the Copa America.  The only team I see they does really look bad against when they ready, is, ironically, the usa. But as far as making the confederation look "cheap and sloppy", the only thing matching that description must be the weed you smokin'.  The usa get results, grant them that and the results garners them some respect in the football world (their fifa rankings are a joke) but they don't look all that entertaining, they don't play with any flair and when they do get brought back down to earth and get beaten by some real world-beaters, they tend to look bad in the process.  I cannot think of ONE american player that can come close to Chicharito. Okay, okay. Sorry.   A fuhget: landon donovan. 
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 23, 2011, 02:42:01 PM
I rather have USA represent concacaf again. They made me very proud making it to the finals and almost beating brazil. I never seen Mexico do anything even close to that, also whenever mexico makes the confeds they let us down badly and make this federation look cheap and sloppy.

There is no limit to the amount of nonsense you write fella.  Mexico won the CONFED Cup at home in 1999...They beat Brazil in the final in a great match.

In 2005 (the Confed Cup before last) they lost to Argentina on penalities in the semi-final...and they looked very good in that game and in the entire tournament... They topped their group in that competition beating Brazil (the eventual tournament winners) in the opening round to do so.

In which CONFED Cup did they make our federation look cheap and sloppy?

Ah does wonder sometimes about some people oui...want to bet he ent post on this thread again  :rotfl:

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Spursy on June 23, 2011, 03:42:52 PM
with the exception of Mexico  beating Brazil in 99' and Argentina.. What has Mexico done for this Confederation besides making it look cheap and sloppy? That win at home was against a second string Brazil side that made the final. In recent years USA have been our silver lining in this region, they are clearly the more organised side that isnt dependant on the borgetti's and the chicaritoes to make the difference.

Team USA stars are getting old, this is why BB is trying to introduce new players along the way, the loss against Spain etc were just benchmarking tests for untested players at that level.

Mexico might show flair here in the Concacaf with the teams like Honduras etc, but pitted against the likes of Spain with the current group the style of play will be very different but not as organised as the USA.

Talk all u want. USA winning this game, although this is a home game for Mexico .. Sad that the staduim in USA have more mexicans that americans.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 23, 2011, 03:57:31 PM
with the exception of Mexico  beating Brazil in 99' and Argentina.. What has Mexico done for this Confederation besides making it look cheap and sloppy? That win at home was against a second string Brazil side that made the final. In recent years USA have been our silver lining in this region, they are clearly the more organised side that isnt dependant on the borgetti's and the chicaritoes to make the difference.

Team USA stars are getting old, this is why BB is trying to introduce new players along the way, the loss against Spain etc were just benchmarking tests for untested players at that level.

Mexico might show flair here in the Concacaf with the teams like Honduras etc, but pitted against the likes of Spain with the current group the style of play will be very different but not as organised as the USA.
Talk all u want. USA winning this game, although this is a home game for Mexico .. Sad that the staduim in USA have more mexicans that americans.

Albeit a friendly, but didn't Mexico almost beat Spain soon after the World Cup, in a game where I think Spain managed to get an equalizer in the dieing minutes? Just say you do like Mexico nah..nobody go hate you for that...but doh come here saying they is shit to big up the team you like  ???

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 23, 2011, 04:01:29 PM
with the exception of Mexico  beating Brazil in 99' and Argentina.. What has Mexico done for this Confederation besides making it look cheap and sloppy? That win at home was against a second string Brazil side that made the final. In recent years USA have been our silver lining in this region, they are clearly the more organised side that isnt dependant on the borgetti's and the chicaritoes to make the difference.

Team USA stars are getting old, this is why BB is trying to introduce new players along the way, the loss against Spain etc were just benchmarking tests for untested players at that level.

Mexico might show flair here in the Concacaf with the teams like Honduras etc, but pitted against the likes of Spain with the current group the style of play will be very different but not as organised as the USA.

Talk all u want. USA winning this game, although this is a home game for Mexico .. Sad that the staduim in USA have more mexicans that americans.

Are you saying Mex. are underacievers. The same could be said about Spain until last year.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 23, 2011, 04:47:31 PM
I vaguely remember Mexico going down to South America and giving a very good showing in one of the Copa America tournaments some years ago. I remember them being involved in a highly entertaining, blow-for-blow, high-scoring game against Germany in Chicago in the '94 WC....then there was the game against Italy in Japan/Korea (methinks) where they gave Italy a run for their money (it was Borgetti that had score that wicked header in that game?).....then the heart breaker they lost to Argentina in Germany '06 but they gave a more than decent account for themselves in that game, too....and last, but not least, in the last Gold Cup Finals, they beat the usa 'till dey couldn't see dem then beat dem fuh hiding...and dey just might do it again, day after tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on June 23, 2011, 04:48:59 PM
honestly with Trini not playing i doh care about a CONCACAF tournament
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 23, 2011, 04:54:06 PM
honestly with Trini not playing i doh care about a CONCACAF tournament

 Honestly, I don't even think that teams like mexico and the usa even care 'bout CONCACAF themselves.  They glad fuh de easy competition that pretty much guarantee them perennial WC berths...but dize it!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kicker on June 23, 2011, 08:32:54 PM

Ah does wonder sometimes about some people oui...want to bet he ent post on this thread again  :rotfl:

Big Up!

I woulda take yuh money easy easy wid da bet lol.... ;D

 :beermug:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Peong on June 23, 2011, 09:05:44 PM
with the exception of Mexico  beating Brazil in 99' and Argentina.. What has Mexico done for this Confederation besides making it look cheap and sloppy? That win at home was against a second string Brazil side that made the final. In recent years USA have been our silver lining in this region, they are clearly the more organised side that isnt dependant on the borgetti's and the chicaritoes to make the difference.

Team USA stars are getting old, this is why BB is trying to introduce new players along the way, the loss against Spain etc were just benchmarking tests for untested players at that level.

Mexico might show flair here in the Concacaf with the teams like Honduras etc, but pitted against the likes of Spain with the current group the style of play will be very different but not as organised as the USA.

Talk all u want. USA winning this game, although this is a home game for Mexico .. Sad that the staduim in USA have more mexicans that americans.

In world football Mexico has done much better than the US.  In the narrow scope that you want to focus on which is the Confed. Cup, Mexico has still done better than the US.

Now you added that you think that of the current teams, you think that the US will give a better showing.  You mean the team that lost to Panama?  Sorry man, but what you sayin is entirely open to argument.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 24, 2011, 07:39:55 AM

Chow this article is for you. I know how love watching him scream at his defenders! ;D


June 22, 2011, 2:21 AM ET

Screamo master, Tim Howard

By Leander Schaerlaeckens
ESPN.com

If you've watched Tim Howard, you know he isn't shy about screaming at his defense. But the U.S. national team keeper said there's a method to his madness.

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The image endures: U.S. national team and Everton goalkeeper Tim Howard charging at his own defenders, gesticulating wildly and screaming corrections at them after a play, veins surging to the surface of his buffed dome.
In his fifth year as starting netminder for the U.S., it's a sight that's become expected. Never were his outbursts so frequent as in the friendly against Spain on June 4, when La Furia Roja effortlessly cut the Americans' defense to shreds to slip four goals past Howard.


But this image of Howard as the national team's high-strung screamer-in-chief sharply contrasts Howard off the field. Sitting across from me in a plush chair in a secluded hotel hallway, the 32-year-old is affable, smiling as he speaks calmly with one leg crossed over the other and resting his head on his fist. "On the field I'm just an actor," Howard said. "It's all to motivate, it's all to get points across. That's all very calculated. None of that is me not having control. It's exactly the opposite -- I'm very much in control of those reactions."
So why does he feel he has to yell so much? What philosophy underpins his act of bellowing bully? Soccer is a game of moments, and Howard will do everything he can to make sure his defense -- because, make no mistake, it is his defense -- is prepared. In his eyes, it's his job to make sure all the pawns are properly aligned when the chess game begins.

That means keeping the back line on a short leash. "Defenders are like dogs," said Howard, explaining that they must be corrected immediately or else they'll forget. "If four plays go by and I try to make a point about the first play, it doesn't work because it happens too quickly. This is why you see me having these types of reactions, because you only get that one break and it's fresh in their minds. If I didn't like how a center back didn't go tight, I'm going to tell him right then and there so that he remembers that play right away."
"
Defenders are like dogs. If four plays go by and I try to make a point about the first play, it doesn't work because it happens too quickly ... The points have to be hammered home right then and there to get a reaction from the players.
" -- Tim Howard
"The points have to be hammered home right then and there to get a reaction from the players that says, 'OK, I don't want to do that again.' I've always learned the best in those circumstances. I'm just a product of my environment. I've always been best when I play with older guys, more experienced guys, where if I kick a ball and it's not the right ball, they turn around and just hammer me. It sends a message: Don't do it again because next time we're going to pay for it."

And, Howard said, his superior vantage point gives him an obligation to pass on his insights to the defense. "I have the luxury of seeing the whole field, of seeing a broader picture," he said. "The key to goalkeeping is helping them to see the picture you see. The best defenders I've ever played with, the ones who are more experienced and a thousand times better than me at soccer, have told me, 'We need you to talk to us, we need you to tell us.'"

His defense is appreciative of Howard's coaching.
"Having a guy like that behind you who is always communicating is big for any defender, especially for me being pretty new to this program and pretty new to this situation," defender Tim Ream said. "It's going to put any defender at ease."

Said left back Eric Lichaj:"It's fine. I'm used to it. I had two older brothers who always yelled at me when I was younger. It's good to have someone like him in the back so that if you do make a mistake he'll most likely be saving us. It's a very good feeling."
Howard is a man who appreciates of the value of opportunity. "Wherever I've played in my career, the one thing that I've always realized, particularly at the highest level, is that you don't get very many chances in a game," he said. "If your left back does something and he gets beat and you get away with it, you might not get away with that again."

But Howard knows well that the game is an opportunity, too. Born in North Brunswick, N.J., to a Hungarian mother and an African-American father, who divorced when he was 3, he was introduced to soccer early by his maternal grandfather. On his way to becoming 6-foot-3, Howard naturally ended up playing in goal as a child, getting deeply upset even then by conceding goals.
Money was tight back then. So Howard started playing semi-professionally before he was out of high school, joining the New Jersey Imperials. The next season, at 18, he joined the New York Metrostars. By the time he was 22, he'd become the youngest ever player to be named MLS Goalkeeper of the Year, playing in every minute of every game while notching four shutouts.

Howard's big break came when he was snapped up by Manchester United in summer 2003, at 24 years old. He earned goalkeeper of the year honors in his first season there, getting 14 clean sheets. He also made a mistake that cost United a place in the Champions League quarterfinals against Porto. Mistakes became more frequent in his second year, as he traded off between the posts and the pine. After veteran Dutchman Edwin van der Sar was brought in, Howard was benched for good and was loaned to Everton the year after. The move was made permanent midway through his first season on Merseyside. Since then, Howard has become one of the most dependable backstops in the game, setting an Everton club record 16 clean sheets in 2008-09.

He no longer has to fight for his starting spot. "[Everton manager David Moyes] is phenomenal," Howard said. "He gave me more confidence than I've ever had in my life."
His steady progress, consistency and confidence have been a boon to the U.S., too, becoming a worthy successor to Brad Friedel and Kasey Keller. "If we didn't have Timmy, we wouldn't be anywhere near as good as we are now," said veteran right back Steve Cherundolo.

Yet for all his posturing, soccer equals anxiety for Howard. It is well-publicized that he has Tourette's syndrome, a nervous system disorder that for Howard causes muscle spasms and tics in his face. The symptoms started showing when he was 10. For several years, he struggled with obsessive-compulsive disorder, too, which often occurs in those with Tourette's.

Although the condition made socializing difficult growing up, Howard never took any medication for it because he worried that it would slow down his reaction speed in goal. He hid his condition until 2001, when he was well-established in Major League Soccer.
Tourette's is sometimes characterized as a buildup of anxiety, and Howard's symptoms tend to peak during games. During much of our conversation, however, he barely had any symptoms at all, clearing his throat or coughing softly or twitching along the right side of his face or neck only on the rare occasion. It makes for a complex dichotomy between the game and his disorder. Because, as Howard said, "The game for me has always been a great distraction, because it's always allowed me to focus on something else, whether I tic or twitch."

He is most anxious when he's playing. "My tics and twitches are heightened in those moments as opposed to when I'm sitting on the couch reading the newspaper," Howard said. "I concentrate and have found a good way to get through 90 minutes and stay focused through my own little idiosyncrasies. But it works for me and that's just how I concentrate and how I focus on the game."

But the cumulative effect makes it hard for him to enjoy the games. "I enjoy the buildup to the game and I enjoy the after," Howard said. "I've always felt in the moment, there's so much going on, there's so much at stake, there's so much pressure to perform, to get things right. In the 90 minutes, it's not an enjoyable thing. When the lights come on you have to dance. I think I play well in the moment and I enjoy the sport, of course, but it's hard to truly enjoy it when you're working so hard at it and you're so focused and driven on one thing for 90 minutes straight."

The stress is also driven by an acute awareness that his margin of error as the last man of the defense is a fraction of that of any other player. "I don't mean to diminish my teammates, but as a goalkeeper you don't get many chances," Howard said. "One little screw-up and it usually ends disastrously. If you're a left-sided midfielder and you give a ball away, you have a chance to defend it."
Then, to top it all off, there's the enormous weight Howard places on his own broad shoulders. "I put a lot of pressure on myself," he said. "I've played with a lot of guys who could just go out there and it doesn't really quite matter as much. I could do that, but I choose not to. I choose to be focused and put pressure on myself and want to be the best. I may never reach that, but that's the goal."

Yet within that maelstrom of anxiety, Howard has found a reserve of inner tranquility. "Goalkeeping is a confidence thing," he said. "It does ebb and flow. And the best goalkeepers can stay on [top of] that curve a little bit longer. I'm confident now only because I'm 32-years-old and I am the goalkeeper I've always wanted to be."
His confidence has grown as he's improved his technique, which he was long accused of lacking. "Particularly over the last five years, I've become very technically sound in my goalkeeping," Howard said. "That part has certainly come around in leaps and bounds from where I was in my mid-20s." This leaves one less susceptible to blunders. "You try to take the guesswork out of goalkeeping instead of just being young and athletic and overaggressive."

And even when he isn't confident, he'll pretend otherwise. "I think you always need to give off the perception that you're confident, that your chest is out, because it exudes to the team, even if you've just made a blunder," he said. Because you can't be chewing out your peers if you look insecure. "Of course, it gets more difficult when you're not having a good day, thinking, 'I'm telling these guys to do something and I can't even do my damn job.' That part is hard, but that's where the acting comes into [play]."


Howard didn't have to act much in the U.S.'s 2-0 Gold Cup quarterfinals victory over Jamaica on Sunday, as his team finally played convincingly. "But my directions were still the same," he said. "Trying to organize after certain moments and making sure that I'm creating awareness for [the defenders] and keeping them on their toes in the game. There's been a theme in this Gold Cup: Teams have sat back on us, so from a defensive standpoint it's easy to go to sleep, because you have so much of the ball. But my reminders to them were just that you've got to continue to talk, continue to communicate. We've got a lot of the ball, we've got to be pessimistic in thinking the next pass is going to break down and how are we set up for that?"
So long as Tim Howard is posted behind the defense, though, screaming, acting, correcting, informing, there's really no need for pessimism.

Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on June 24, 2011, 08:57:45 AM
^^^^^
Ah yes. The best part of being a keeper is constantly shouting at your defenders!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: #4 on June 24, 2011, 08:59:07 AM
Speaking of 'keepers...

(disclaimer: I don’t endorse flopping, but every once in a while when it’s done well as a part of gamesmanship, when it’s not excessive, or when T&T or a team I’m playing on is doing it, I feel the need to applaud it sometimes… doh judge meh! ;D )

I don’t know if anyone else picked up on this, but one thing I noticed about the Honduras-Mexico match was the “gamesmanship”/mental part of the game, which Mexico clearly had a better grasp of.

By the 80th minute of the match, with the score 0-0, momentum had clearly shifted toward Honduras. By the last 3 minutes of regulation, Honduras’ attack was finally clicking for the first time, and the Mexican defense was looking scrappy. Honduras forced an amazing save from Mexico’s goalkeeper and seemed bound to score in the final minutes. In the 90th minute (with 3 minutes added time to go) after “colliding” with a Honduran attacker, the Mexican ‘keeper flopped, faked injury, and stayed on the ground for 3 minutes until the end of stoppage time. Honduras’ coach realized what happened and was livid. By the first few minutes of extra time, momentum had clearly reversed in favor of Mexico, Honduras seemed to have checked out mentally, and as they say, the rest is history. Long story short, although I was rooting for Honduras, that play by the Mexican 'keeper was one of the smartest “professional” flops I’ve ever seen.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 24, 2011, 08:26:43 PM
Thanks, Giggsy, an interesting read.  I can only imagine that it's the anxiety thing that he talks about because in truth and in fact, you don't have to yell at every player every time (s)he makes a mistake and quite often I see him yelling and gesticulating for nothing.  But I guess it works for him so who am I to critique the man....it's just so unnecessary sometimes that I does wonder to myself if it maybe a spotlight thing with him.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 25, 2011, 07:27:53 AM
I rather have USA represent concacaf again. They made me very proud making it to the finals and almost beating brazil. I never seen Mexico do anything even close to that, also whenever mexico makes the confeds they let us down badly and make this federation look cheap and sloppy.

Dempsey USA ALL THE WAY. The better organised team in my opinion.


Oh and those of you wanting to see a USA trashing.. NOT going to happen. keep dreaming.

Oh and Jamaica fans, THATS WHAT U GET! Ent you want to win your group and show off vs Honduras? Take cutarse, let the excuses start. Fact USA played them out of the pitch, Latapy FC would of done better. SHAME!




Love them or hate them, Mexico is the best team in CONCACAF and the most entertaining to watch.....I find whenever they representing the confederation (or if they feel they only reppin' they self) they always put up a more than respectable showing, whether it's CONFEDERATIONS' Cup, World Cup or when they have been invited in the past to partake in the Copa America.  The only team I see they does really look bad against when they ready, is, ironically, the usa. But as far as making the confederation look "cheap and sloppy", the only thing matching that description must be the weed you smokin'.  The usa get results, grant them that and the results garners them some respect in the football world (their fifa rankings are a joke) but they don't look all that entertaining, they don't play with any flair and when they do get brought back down to earth and get beaten by some real world-beaters, they tend to look bad in the process.  I cannot think of ONE american player that can come close to Chicharito. Okay, okay. Sorry.   A fuhget: landon donovan. 


Mexico representing wey before Usa  ever qualified for a World Cup. They have hosted the world cup and qualified more times than not! Very consistent footballing nation. It also looks like they have some good young talent coming tru; just base on their under 17 side!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 02:09:13 PM
VIVA MEXICO!!!

 :devil: ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Pointman on June 25, 2011, 04:23:23 PM
VIVA MEXICO!!!

 :devil: ;D
:beermug: :beermug: A TODA MARDE!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bitter on June 25, 2011, 04:54:14 PM
If yuh want to talk about smart keeping. Check Shaka in 2006 vs Sweden. The man take the slowest goal kicks I ever see, just quick enough to not tick-off the ref until the middle of the 2nd half. After 10 minutes in that game I turn to the person next to me and say - this man wasting time in the first half - Brilliant. By the time he really need to waste time, this is he normal speed.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on June 25, 2011, 05:23:37 PM
Backing Chicharito and Chicharito Only
CHICHARITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOL GOL GOL GOLLL
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 25, 2011, 05:39:02 PM
VIVA MEXICO!!!

 :devil: ;D

  ?como se dice "co-sign" en espanol?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on June 25, 2011, 05:41:53 PM
Oh and Jamaica fans, THATS WHAT U GET! Ent you want to win your group and show off vs Honduras? Take cutarse, let the excuses start. Fact USA played them out of the pitch, Latapy FC would of done better. SHAME!

Easy fella...USA wa salways going to be dificult at home, and yes,hey are better than Jamaica. JAmaica made a statement beating Honduras...I am sure you are aware that its teams like Honduras, Panama etc that stands in Jamaicas way on their mission to the world cup. USA and MExico are outfront, everyone else fighting for the scraps.

Latapay FC couldnt beat Grenada, so no point event suggesting that they would have done better. Grenada collected about 20 goals in the 3 games they played.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 05:57:28 PM
VIVA MEXICO!!!

 :devil: ;D

Mexico for d win!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 06:32:30 PM
Alright eh I wasn't following the tournament before so ah now realising it eh coming on none of the local channels.....

Ah trying to get dem links Bitter posted earlier to get going....ah hoping dey work cuz ah having some trouble lately launching adthe etc. etc.....

*crossed fingers*
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 06:32:55 PM
Backing Chicharito and Chicharito Only
CHICHARITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOL GOL GOL GOLLL

Chups.....you is ah confused young fella..... ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 06:50:31 PM
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=119179&part=sports
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 07:08:07 PM
^^^^^ Gracias senor!!!   ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: fari on June 25, 2011, 07:10:32 PM
real high tempo by el tri
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 07:15:43 PM
Steups!!!  BooSA BooSA!!!  dat eh take ah deflection off de keeper??
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 07:16:57 PM
 :arguing:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: AirMan on June 25, 2011, 07:21:58 PM
I hope USA win..I have no reason to support Mexico
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 07:22:10 PM
Off the f&*$#ng post!!!  :o :o  Steups!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 07:22:33 PM
Hernandez rel causing trouble
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 07:22:43 PM
I hope USA win..I have no reason to support Mexico

Get out of here..... ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: mukumsplau on June 25, 2011, 07:22:56 PM
game is pace! hope pfizer watchin
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 07:25:17 PM
Where is this game playing West or East Coast of the US of A??
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: ckhan on June 25, 2011, 07:28:38 PM
Decent game, nice goal...even in the US the home team is the away team..after all these years.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 07:30:52 PM
stueps wtf is this dread  :'(
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 07:31:12 PM
 :-X :-X

uuuummm DHW......uuuummmm yuh know I probably should not have been watching this game....*smdh*
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: ckhan on June 25, 2011, 07:35:01 PM
2 goals and good ones too....damn....as i type mex 1
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: mukumsplau on June 25, 2011, 07:35:14 PM
dis is flickin game!!! bulletttt
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: MEP on June 25, 2011, 07:36:08 PM
I wonder what the over-under is on this game
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 07:36:21 PM
goaoooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllll , Mexiiiicoooooo!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 25, 2011, 07:36:36 PM
Decent game, nice goal...even in the US the home team is the away team..after all these years.

Game playing in Pasadena, California... what yuh expect?


USA settle down nice after Hernandez failed to capitalize on a couple early opportunities.  Bradley's goal was sublime, both in touch and in execution.  Is only 25 mins but Freddy Adu has been masterful... holding up play nice, including being physical with the Mexican defenders... nice confidence with the ball at his feet... something I haven't seen in this team since the U-20 World Cup 4 years ago... when he belt ah Brazilian near the corner flag.  His play lead to the corner kick... which he himself took to set up the goal.  On the second goal he started the play by holding the ball before laying off to Dempsey... who passed to Donovan. Mexico defense at sea right now.

Miss the Mexican goal... but they did well to pull one right back because if this went to the half I don't think they would have come back from 2 goals down.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 07:36:41 PM
Heh heh heh.....come on Mexico!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 25, 2011, 07:37:38 PM
Exciting end-to-end action.  Mexico have been a bit unlucky to not be at least level, but they have been picked apart defensively by the U.S.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Tenorsaw on June 25, 2011, 07:42:52 PM
What a game! Action!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: ckhan on June 25, 2011, 07:42:59 PM
All tied @ 2...by far CONCACAF is de winner tonight!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 07:43:20 PM
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaoooooooooooollllllllllllllllllll
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: fari on June 25, 2011, 07:44:01 PM
this might end up 5-4 or something b/c both defences aint to hot
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 07:44:04 PM
GAME ON!!!!!

VIVA MEXICO!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 07:44:30 PM
mexico playing the better ball though
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 07:45:35 PM
this might end up 5-4 or something b/c both defences aint to hot

for real dread ah now thinking, Mexico allowing the US to walk een dey 18 yard box.....but ah would still give de edge to Mexico.....dey have quality finishers....
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 07:46:01 PM
Chicharito make a nice move there not touching the ball, in case it was offside
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: just cool on June 25, 2011, 07:46:57 PM
As much as i can't stand dempsey, donovan harks and the whole ESPN crew, i just cannot support mexico. so fuh this one i on the fence.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: ckhan on June 25, 2011, 07:48:36 PM
injuries, cards, goals...nice!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 07:51:00 PM
As much as i can't stand dempsey , donovan harks and the who ESPN crew, i just cannot support mexico. so fuh this one i on the fence.

I never give you some of my haterade??  :devil: ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 25, 2011, 07:56:00 PM
this might end up 5-4 or something b/c both defences aint to hot

To make matters worse both have lost arguably their best defender... with Cherundolo out with ah ankle sprain, and Rafa Marquez done with a hamstring.  I'd be surprised if the US score again though... and they defense good for 2 more.  4-2 Mexico.


Who ever that imps US analyst actually had the nerve to say early on "not a whole lot of difference skill and ability wise between these two teams."  Fuh 15 minutes they make him look like a prophet.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Spursy on June 25, 2011, 07:58:44 PM
CMON USA!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 08:01:59 PM

Who ever that imps US analyst actually had the nerve to say early on "not a whole lot of difference skill and ability wise between these two teams."  Fuh 15 minutes they make him look like a prophet.

Yuh see why I cyar back dem??  Steups.....haterade in dey rass!!!

VIVA MEXICO!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: ckhan on June 25, 2011, 08:02:23 PM
I backing USA on this one...the lesser of two evils   ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 25, 2011, 08:05:41 PM
this might end up 5-4 or something b/c both defences aint to hot

Who ever that imps US analyst actually had the nerve to say early on "not a whole lot of difference skill and ability wise between these two teams."  Fuh 15 minutes they make him look like a prophet.

Ah real laugh when I heard that statement...after I was  ??? WTF? lol

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 08:05:58 PM
I backing USA on this one...the lesser of two evils   ;D


MEXICO, MEXICO MEXICO!!!!

To counteract the other evil..... :devil: ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Cocorite on June 25, 2011, 08:08:01 PM
game is pace! hope pfizer watchin

Was thinking the same thing. But not only Pfizer but all players and coaches of T&T
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: ckhan on June 25, 2011, 08:08:40 PM
Why Donavan doh try out fuh ah PL team? Everton was a nice run for him.

ps...yeah brownsugar, you can have them  :D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 08:13:17 PM
Oh lord man Mexico, bury the blasted goal and dem nah..... :frustrated:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: mukumsplau on June 25, 2011, 08:14:11 PM
OH GADOI
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 08:14:40 PM
goal son! 3-2 mex!
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Post by: ckhan on June 25, 2011, 08:14:59 PM
benners on de ground..lolol
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 08:15:04 PM
Dais what we talking bout!!!

VIVA MEXICO!!!
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Post by: Bakes on June 25, 2011, 08:15:13 PM
Timmy fishing de ball out the back of he net again.  He need to bark less and keep more

3-2 Mayheeco.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: MEP on June 25, 2011, 08:22:43 PM
I have to admit Adu looking like a player
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Post by: Tenorsaw on June 25, 2011, 08:24:27 PM
I have to admit Adu looking like a player

Yep...seems to be maturing.  Quietly rebuilding his reputation. 
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Post by: ckhan on June 25, 2011, 08:25:08 PM
hit de post, crap!
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Post by: fari on June 25, 2011, 08:25:36 PM
I have to admit Adu looking like a player

for a man who running ball in greece or turkey or wherever the france he is now he still have it. (not that playing in one of those leagues means one is a bad player but u get my drift)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 25, 2011, 08:29:10 PM
haha, his cleat made "Slight" contact with his back  :devil:

Big Up!
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Post by: ckhan on June 25, 2011, 08:30:24 PM
Adu raise his value tonight man, he playing well.
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Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 08:40:06 PM
Hold on Mexico.....15 more minutes....
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Post by: fari on June 25, 2011, 08:40:37 PM
gooolazzzzzooooooo
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Post by: Tenorsaw on June 25, 2011, 08:40:46 PM
Nive fourth goal...good composure by Dos Santos
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Post by: mukumsplau on June 25, 2011, 08:40:50 PM
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttt
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Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 08:41:25 PM
Naaahhhhhhhh!!!  :o :o :o :o :o

Dat ball really go een???!!!  Nah, nah, nah....oh shyte!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 08:41:32 PM
aaaaaaahahahahahaha Goall in alyuh rasssssssssss 4 - 2 mex

JEPP NEST
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 25, 2011, 08:41:50 PM
lawdoooo what ah golasooo!

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: ckhan on June 25, 2011, 08:42:02 PM
Stick a fork in it cause it is done!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: fari on June 25, 2011, 08:42:47 PM
this is the game of the what happened to hims


usa-----freddy adu

mexico----gio dos santos
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 08:42:55 PM
Tim Howard look like a real cunny!!!

Goal in yuh pweffen!!!

VIVA MEXICO!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 08:46:44 PM
9 minutes.....and put een ah next one for good measure.... :devil:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 08:47:01 PM
Tim Howard look like a real cunny!!!


 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :devil:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: MEP on June 25, 2011, 08:48:17 PM
Lissenin to dese commentators yuh go swear de US is de bess team in de world. They keep talking about Cherundolo but he is at best an average defender...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: ckhan on June 25, 2011, 08:49:26 PM
that goal will be n espn's top 10 for sure!
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Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 08:51:44 PM
that goal will be n espn's top 10 for sure!

And dey goh be wishing was ah Yank dat score it....goal in dey pweffen!!!.... :devil: ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 08:52:31 PM
USA your tears taste lovely  :party:

Zeppo u go post them Mexico screen shots after eh
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Post by: fari on June 25, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
Lissenin to dese commentators yuh go swear de US is de bess team in de world. They keep talking about Cherundolo but he is at best an average defender...

MEP, i think if we are honest we would say that these two teams barring a few players from each side are average teams.
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Post by: MEP on June 25, 2011, 08:56:07 PM
I agree. The biggest thing they both have going for them especially the US is that professional discipline.
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Post by: Brownsugar on June 25, 2011, 08:58:24 PM
Heh, heh, heh......

VIVA!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Andre DosSantos on June 25, 2011, 08:58:43 PM
The Dos Santos strikes again, it was a good game though geo dribbling reminds me alot of ronnie's espeically on that last goal
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 25, 2011, 08:59:00 PM
The Beast is slain ...
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Post by: DeSoWa on June 25, 2011, 09:00:45 PM
Mexico are the 2011 Gold Cup Champs  ;D

Sorry BooUSA  :devil:

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 25, 2011, 09:02:09 PM
Clint Dempsey is a very good player... but what a jackass.  Cameras didn't focus on it but that confrontation he had with the keeper just before Bradley's 79' shot... both of them collided and keeper fell on him.  Dempsey stuck his leg into the keeper's stomach as the keeper was getting off him and essentially kicked him off of him.  Should have been his first yellow.

Agree with Fari... Freddy and Gio stole the show.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Andre DosSantos on June 25, 2011, 09:02:24 PM
Mom made empanadas tonight, i guess she knew it was going to be Mejico win  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :devil:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: trini_stallion on June 25, 2011, 09:02:37 PM
every ball mexico touch was bosss, them rel smoootheee wayyyyyyy...ah like mexico form...mexico spain final 2014, USA get make out rel bad tonight!
Big up mexico..ah even listen to de game in spanishhh!!! bosss final! :beermug:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 25, 2011, 09:09:17 PM
Mexico is a very kind guest at their hosts home...they let them smell and taste the trophy a little, before they went and grab it and ate all for themselves  :rotfl:

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: MEP on June 25, 2011, 09:11:18 PM
some cheap lookin trophy
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Post by: Cocorite on June 25, 2011, 09:16:51 PM
An' T&T eh do notten to compete with these guys boy? ooh guude
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Post by: Peong on June 25, 2011, 09:21:59 PM
That game was real entertainin, glad I tuned in.
Chicharito's through ball for the first was sweet.
#4 was a boss finish by Dos Santos, the space where that passed was very small.
Imagine they scored 4 unanswered goals!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 25, 2011, 11:05:58 PM
Mexico is a very kind guest at their hosts home...they let them smell and taste the trophy a little, before they went and grab it and ate all for themselves  :rotfl:

Big Up!

The Mexican fans even shared their beer with them after every Mexican goal  ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kicker on June 26, 2011, 01:56:36 AM
Adu looked great, USA looked poor.  Mexico should have won this game alot more comfortably than they did....quality U.S. goals though, but funny enough, they were no where in the game when they scored...very strange how the 1st 25 mins of the game went.   

4-2 actually flattered the States in the end.  Apart from Adu, US has no players with genuine skill and natural expression - Until they figure that out, they will always be on a tier or two below real quality. 
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Post by: Mango Chow! on June 26, 2011, 03:36:06 AM
Adu looked great, USA looked poor.  Mexico should have won this game alot more comfortably than they did....quality U.S. goals though, but funny enough, they were no where in the game when they scored...very strange how the 1st 25 mins of the game went.   

4-2 actually flattered the States in the end.  Apart from Adu, US has no players with genuine skill and natural expression - Until they figure that out, they will always be on a tier or two below real quality

    Thank you, Kicker. Is like yuh snatch them words straight from meh heart and mind and dash them like dice into your post. This goes back to Jurgen Klinsmann's comments about the usa needing to "recruit more from the inner city" that went over the heads of the people that was trying to take issue with them. As long as they keep pushing the bland, suburban white-boy brand, their football will always look like it does.  They are masters of fitness, fundamentals and goalkeeping and nothing more.  Every now and then, they will produce a player like dempsey that might have some flair to him (I think he learned something from all them damned Mexicans he grew up with in texas) and I can"t say he isn't a decent player. Every now and then, they will earn a result that permits them to beat their chests: a 1-0 WC knockout loss to Germany; a 3-2 WC thrashing of perennial underachievers, Portugal; a 2-0 defeat of them other Iberian (former) underachievers, Spain; a 2-0 halftime lead over Brazil and that 1-1 draw in south Africa with England.....However, as long as they arrogantly continue seeing themselves as the world beaters (that they are not) both on the pitch and in the commentary booth, they may not see a need to change their......philosophy That arrogance is the weakness the rest of us are supposed to use as motivation to prepare for Brazil 2014 Qualifiers.   
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: just cool on June 26, 2011, 03:41:40 AM
Adu looked great, USA looked poor.  Mexico should have won this game alot more comfortably than they did....quality U.S. goals though, but funny enough, they were no where in the game when they scored...very strange how the 1st 25 mins of the game went.   

4-2 actually flattered the States in the end.  Apart from Adu, US has no players with genuine skill and natural expression - Until they figure that out, they will always be on a tier or two below real quality. 
You talking outa timin! don't let yuh bias cloud your vision, Bc fellas like clint dempsey , donovan , edu, altidor , jermain jones (good find) bradley a superb defensive mid, and bocanegra is all top notch quality players, and what i like about them men is that they don't roll on the ground and carry on wid shenanigans when they leading, they does play the game honest wid poise and heart.

the U.S. needs tuh get rid of that badoya guy and the new central defender/ i think his name is goodson or something like that, they were the weakest links in the whole tourney, i think if they had onyewo and clark in the midfield things would've went differently.

mexico got lucky today, the only goal they scored that off set the U.S. defense was the first goal, other than dat, all their goals were weak scrable goals BC of a lack of experience by the newbee defenders and midfielders.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: mukumsplau on June 26, 2011, 04:51:24 AM
Adu looked great, USA looked poor.  Mexico should have won this game alot more comfortably than they did....quality U.S. goals though, but funny enough, they were no where in the game when they scored...very strange how the 1st 25 mins of the game went.   

4-2 actually flattered the States in the end.  Apart from Adu, US has no players with genuine skill and natural expression - Until they figure that out, they will always be on a tier or two below real quality. 
You talking outa timin! don't let yuh bias cloud your vision, Bc fellas like clint dempsey , donovan , edu, altidor , jermain jones (good find) bradley a superb defensive mid, and bocanegra is all top notch quality players, and what i like about them men is that they don't roll on the ground and carry on wid shenanigans when they leading, they does play the game honest wid poise and heart.

the U.S. needs tuh get rid of that badoya guy and the new central defender/ i think his name is goodson or something like that, they were the weakest links in the whole tourney, i think if they had onyewo and clark in the midfield things would've went differently.

mexico got lucky today, the only goal they scored that off set the U.S. defense was the first goal, other than dat, all their goals were weak scrable goals BC of a lack of experience by the newbee defenders and midfielders.


 ???
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Sam on June 26, 2011, 05:25:18 AM
Didn't realise Mexico wearing Adidas now. !!..

Anybody see Tim Howard face when ever Mexico scores !..... he vex like a tuntun....
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Post by: Mango Chow! on June 26, 2011, 05:45:09 AM
Didn't realise Mexico wearing Adidas now. !!..

Anybody see Tim Howard face when ever Mexico scores !..... he vex like a tuntun....

Mexico been wearin' Adidas maybe 'bout tree-four years now.

Tim "berate 'em" Howard ALWAYS vex (wit he defenders)....he need to get 'bout six big stone and plenty twine.....and the nearest river.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 26, 2011, 06:49:41 AM
A man say Mexico get lucky yes .  :rotfl: .  USA get out played plain and simple.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Daft Trini on June 26, 2011, 06:50:57 AM
USA USA USA usa, usa, usa....
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 26, 2011, 06:57:36 AM
Everybody made valid pro-con points on both teams. I think Onyewu would have made a difference for the US team defensively. But I'll still give the edge to Mex. But I glad the Mex has to bring their A game everytime they play the US. A couple years ago they was showing disdain for the Concacaf. But when US by-passed the CR and Honduras as their most serious rivals the Mex attitude has changed. They now take the group seriously.

But they are worthy champions. Congrats to them.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: KND2 on June 26, 2011, 07:40:13 AM
The us just get a little stale at the moment, because they have no fresh blood coming through.

USSF have a choice, keep down the current path,

Make the world cup, make the round of 16 and maybe quarters now or them or

Start from now bring in some fresh blood for coaching and a few new players and still maybe make a Quaters or a semis now and them.


Either way the talent is not there to get to the next level at the moment and there is no youths coming through the pipeline to make a step change.


They need to find another pipeline, which is to try to tap into the inner city and immigrant population centers for some more creative talent.

Agudelo is a good start and there may be more coming.


The fact that the MLS teams now have free academies where it is all about ability versus money to play means they are opening up doors to some natural talent.

red bulls for one are pulling a lot of poor spanish youths from jersey and metro NYC area.

The next 5 years will be interesting, Us soccer may experience another growth spurt like in the 90's the base is there, the infrastructure is there. the MLS is there

All they need is for God to send them a
Messi or Ronaldo


Maybe they need a priest.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: College on June 26, 2011, 07:45:40 AM
Found this interesting...

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news;_ylt=AksP4tfK9hQQCNkqN0g9D4M5nYcB?slug=ro-rogers_tim_howard_angry_after_loss_062511
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 26, 2011, 08:02:11 AM
Clint Dempsey is a very good player... but what a jackass.  Cameras didn't focus on it but that confrontation he had with the keeper just before Bradley's 79' shot... both of them collided and keeper fell on him.  Dempsey stuck his leg into the keeper's stomach as the keeper was getting off him and essentially kicked him off of him.  Should have been his first yellow.

Agree with Fari... Freddy and Gio stole the show.

Bakes, I used to admire this man play when he was the Revolution eh, but after de incident wid he and Daniel a few years ago where he showed he true colors, ah have seen him exactly as you have stated.  He has to grow up, very immature as a person and it manifests itself on the field.  This larger than life persona he has taken on w/not much to back it up quite frankly on de international football scale says it all.  The US needs less players like him (from a peronality perspective) and more who accept where they are as a footballing nation and aspire to greatness, not believing they have already reached a level of greatness and the world must now watch to show unfold....
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 26, 2011, 08:14:49 AM
A man say Mexico get lucky yes .  :rotfl: .  USA get out played plain and simple.

JC didn't see the other 3 - 4 goals that Mexico throw way......

For a team that goes to the World Cup consistently there is almost no distinction between US teams of yesteryear.  Their teams look the same year in year out.  Yes they pull off an upset now and again but dais about it.  Dey could beat up on teams in this region, but when it comes to real soccer football dey does fall down flat.....ask Ghana......
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: futbolfan on June 26, 2011, 08:21:57 AM
Adu looked great, USA looked poor.  Mexico should have won this game alot more comfortably than they did....quality U.S. goals though, but funny enough, they were no where in the game when they scored...very strange how the 1st 25 mins of the game went.   

4-2 actually flattered the States in the end.  Apart from Adu, US has no players with genuine skill and natural expression - Until they figure that out, they will always be on a tier or two below real quality. 
You talking outa timin! don't let yuh bias cloud your vision, Bc fellas like clint dempsey , donovan , edu, altidor , jermain jones (good find) bradley a superb defensive mid, and bocanegra is all top notch quality players, and what i like about them men is that they don't roll on the ground and carry on wid shenanigans when they leading, they does play the game honest wid poise and heart.

the U.S. needs tuh get rid of that badoya guy and the new central defender/ i think his name is goodson or something like that, they were the weakest links in the whole tourney, i think if they had onyewo and clark in the midfield things would've went differently.

mexico got lucky today, the only goal they scored that off set the U.S. defense was the first goal, other than dat, all their goals were weak scrable goals BC of a lack of experience by the newbee defenders and midfielders.

Mexico got LUCKY??? Is a combined 9 goal de US collect in back to back GC finals.
When Jermain Jones dive and roll around on de ground in de JA game where was his honesty and poise?
Plain and simple de US get ah 'sweat' and Mexico should be given credit for their victory.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 26, 2011, 08:27:23 AM
Tim Howard was absolutely terrible. The man had a major nightmare.

Onyewu would not have made a difference.

With Mexico pushing 3 "front runners" it would have always been difficult for USA defenders who are not comfortable on the ball to play forward effectively. With the pace of Guardado and Dos Santos it was always a mountain for the USA. Barrera is to much for Bardley to deal with, plus in possesion the Mexican flooded the midfield better than the USA did.


Anyone realize how long it takes the USA players to give Freddy a pass - Bradley in particular? Freddy pushed into some nice positions and literally had to beg for the obvious pass. It had one time he begged for a pass from Bedoya I think it was and he just played Freddy the ball and walked away, did not even think about supporting him. I think there's a lot of problems behind the scene. The "indivisible" apparently is divided right now. I don't want to, but I believe Dempsey and donovan is causing a lot of problems for Bradley, and like I stated before win or lose in this tournament Bradley is gone.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 26, 2011, 08:49:50 AM
Clint Dempsey is a very good player... but what a jackass.  Cameras didn't focus on it but that confrontation he had with the keeper just before Bradley's 79' shot... both of them collided and keeper fell on him.  Dempsey stuck his leg into the keeper's stomach as the keeper was getting off him and essentially kicked him off of him.  Should have been his first yellow.

Agree with Fari... Freddy and Gio stole the show.

Bakes, I used to admire this man play when he was the Revolution eh, but after de incident wid he and Daniel a few years ago where he showed he true colors, ah have seen him exactly as you have stated.  He has to grow up, very immature as a person and it manifests itself on the field.  This larger than life persona he has taken on w/not much to back it up quite frankly on de international football scale says it all.  The US needs less players like him (from a peronality perspective) and more who accept where they are as a footballing nation and aspire to greatness, not believing they have already reached a level of greatness and the world must now watch to show unfold....

  Plenty of them american players have the attitude that dempsey does, it's deeply rooted in their culture.  they swear they are "the greatest" at any and everything they partake in and don't ever try to tell them there's plenty room for their improvement.  They believe in their own mainstream media hype and play the game with a sense of entitlement.  If we wasn't busy feeling like we doh have to improve, too, we woulda be washing this side up and dong CONCACAF.   
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: ribbit on June 26, 2011, 10:11:31 AM
allyuh see how dos santos had howard flopping around like a fish on that 4th goal  :rotfl: :rotfl:

man have skillz.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: richpy on June 26, 2011, 10:25:06 AM
Mexico overun de States from minute #1 yesterday. Slack defending caused them to go 2-0 down, but they were still dominating the game. They knock a nice quick brand, and swarmed the ball whenever they lost possession. If they could sort out there goalkeeping situation and defensive concentration, they can cause real damage in 2014.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 26, 2011, 10:36:30 AM
Mexico overun de States from minute #1 yesterday. Slack defending caused them to go 2-0 down, but they were still dominating the game. They knock a nice quick brand, and swarmed the ball whenever they lost possession. If they could sort out there goalkeeping situation and defensive concentration, they can cause real damage in 2014.

  Mexico have good GK's, man....Ochoa is an excellent 'keeper (he just need to sort out that illegal substance ting.;D)...is some of their defenders, or, as you said, their defensive concentration they need to sort out.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kicker on June 26, 2011, 11:27:17 AM
Apart from Adu, US has no players with genuine skill and natural expression - Until they figure that out, they will always be on a tier or two below real quality. 
You talking outa timin! don't let yuh bias cloud your vision, Bc fellas like clint dempsey , donovan , edu, altidor , jermain jones (good find) bradley a superb defensive mid, and bocanegra is all top notch quality players

I never say nuttin' about quality players.  I have no anti-US bias, and I recognize that they have alot of capable players in their squad but  I talking about a certain "type" of quality.  Dem players you call dey is dime o' dozen players in established successful football nations.  The type of quality I talkin' bout is the kinda expression yuh can't really teach, that results in a kind of unpredictability...the kinda quality when yuh watch a player and yuh just see something special...The U.S. lacking that Fredy Adu might not be the best U.S. player but he has it - you just see it in his game...and iz not only I talkin' that...Experienced pro-American analysts have said the same thing...England gets the same criticism, and they have better players than the U.S.

As Chow implied, when the U.S. starts to broaden the source from which its footballing talent pool comes from, they will probably add a different type of quality to their game...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Spursy on June 26, 2011, 12:48:18 PM
the world cup final had nothing on this match. one of the best matches i have seen. it was clear mexico fans rally their team on, it was unbelievable, 2-0 down and they still never gave up. this is the poorest us defense in decades with the exception of boca by their own standards.

Usa still havent figured out how to hang on to a 2-0 lead in a final sigh.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 26, 2011, 12:52:04 PM

Usa still havent figured out how to hang on to a 2-0 lead in a final sigh.

  Dize because quality will always prevail over quantity.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: MEP on June 26, 2011, 01:03:38 PM
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The fact that the MLS teams now have free academies where it is all about ability versus money to play means they are opening up doors to some natural talent.

The thing is they have men namely a lot english  who coaching at these academies and quite frankly from what I've witnessed cannot coach.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Dansteel - The Iceman on June 26, 2011, 01:21:59 PM
I think the problem is they have an emphasis on athleticism over technique in coaching. A good way (with reasonably talented players) to become a mid ranking nation but to go the extra mile you need the technical ability. I remember reading an article about Southhampton Academy in England (one of the most respected) and the director talked about them concentrating of athleticism over technique. If that is the type of culture the USA want to build then they won't get much further than they already have.

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The fact that the MLS teams now have free academies where it is all about ability versus money to play means they are opening up doors to some natural talent.

The thing is they have men namely a lot english  who coaching at these academies and quite frankly from what I've witnessed cannot coach.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 26, 2011, 01:32:47 PM
well I upset about my adopted country loosing but in a kind of way its a positive not to supporters of the warriors and the reggaeboyz.. why?.. I was told by serious supporters dat this is u.s best squad .. if dat is there best squad a well organise TNT squad could take dem.. I eh neva see a U.S team Play this bad in a long long time.. Mexico made dem played bad by playing A great game frm start to finish.. USA got two half chances and scored.. Hats of to to the mexicans.All di posters on this forum who is mexican lovers and American haters  hats of to allyuh too. Altidore , Freddy go still get up in the morning and go about there quest to improve football in this country for African americans weather yu guys hate dem or not...
This game had nothing to do wid coaching mexico team is just skilful and very very good. One of the best looking mexican team I have seen in ages..
war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: saga pinto on June 26, 2011, 02:10:37 PM
Adu looked great, USA looked poor.  Mexico should have won this game alot more comfortably than they did....quality U.S. goals though, but funny enough, they were no where in the game when they scored...very strange how the 1st 25 mins of the game went.   

4-2 actually flattered the States in the end.  Apart from Adu, US has no players with genuine skill and natural expression - Until they figure that out, they will always be on a tier or two below real quality. 
You talking outa timin! don't let yuh bias cloud your vision, Bc fellas like clint dempsey , donovan , edu, altidor , jermain jones (good find) bradley a superb defensive mid, and bocanegra is all top notch quality players, and what i like about them men is that they don't roll on the ground and carry on wid shenanigans when they leading, they does play the game honest wid poise and heart.

the U.S. needs tuh get rid of that badoya guy and the new central defender/ i think his name is goodson or something like that, they were the weakest links in the whole tourney, i think if they had onyewo and clark in the midfield things would've went differently.

mexico got lucky today, the only goal they scored that off set the U.S. defense was the first goal, other than dat, all their goals were weak scrable goals BC of a lack of experience by the newbee defenders and midfielders.

Yuh no I don't come on this board to often but when I read some responses I can't help but be amused by it,you obviously was watching a different game than me.

It was a very exciting game on both ends but the better side prevailed end of story!!!!! 
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Post by: elan on June 26, 2011, 02:29:15 PM
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The fact that the MLS teams now have free academies where it is all about ability versus money to play means they are opening up doors to some natural talent.

The thing is they have men namely a lot english  who coaching at these academies and quite frankly from what I've witnessed cannot coach.

Which academies in the US free?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 26, 2011, 02:35:50 PM
I think the problem is they have an emphasis on athleticism over technique in coaching. A good way (with reasonably talented players) to become a mid ranking nation but to go the extra mile you need the technical ability. I remember reading an article about Southhampton Academy in England (one of the most respected) and the director talked about them concentrating of athleticism over technique. If that is the type of culture the USA want to build then they won't get much further than they already have.

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The fact that the MLS teams now have free academies where it is all about ability versus money to play means they are opening up doors to some natural talent.

The thing is they have men namely a lot english  who coaching at these academies and quite frankly from what I've witnessed cannot coach.

Read the US new curriculum that they handing down to the clubs, this won't get to much better soon. It's the smae problem the USWMNT facing. They were killing other countries when other countries weren't taking women soccer seriously, now that the rest of the world ready to play the USA struggling.

To much emphasis on passing and playing (with results oriented games) at to much of a young age in the USA. Players are not becoming totally comfortable with the ball. Team style of play at U10-14 is a major hinderance in proper development I believe. Way to many countries and clubs around the world is getting carried away by "The Barcelona Way". Everyone focussing on the passing and not paying any attention to what allows Barcelona to pass so well.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 26, 2011, 02:50:03 PM
Everyone focussing on the passing and not paying any attention to what allows Barcelona to pass so well.

 :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kicker on June 26, 2011, 02:51:16 PM

Read the US new curriculum that they handing down to the clubs, this won't get to much better soon. It's the smae problem the USWMNT facing. They were killing other countries when other countries weren't taking women soccer seriously, now that the rest of the world ready to play the USA struggling.

To much emphasis on passing and playing (with results oriented games) at to much of a young age in the USA. Players are not becoming totally comfortable with the ball. Team style of play at U10-14 is a major hinderance in proper development I believe. Way to many countries and clubs around the world is getting carried away by "The Barcelona Way". Everyone focussing on the passing and not paying any attention to what allows Barcelona to pass so well.

Interesting perspective...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: just cool on June 26, 2011, 03:25:34 PM
Adu looked great, USA looked poor.  Mexico should have won this game alot more comfortably than they did....quality U.S. goals though, but funny enough, they were no where in the game when they scored...very strange how the 1st 25 mins of the game went.   

4-2 actually flattered the States in the end.  Apart from Adu, US has no players with genuine skill and natural expression - Until they figure that out, they will always be on a tier or two below real quality. 
You talking outa timin! don't let yuh bias cloud your vision, Bc fellas like clint dempsey , donovan , edu, altidor , jermain jones (good find) bradley a superb defensive mid, and bocanegra is all top notch quality players, and what i like about them men is that they don't roll on the ground and carry on wid shenanigans when they leading, they does play the game honest wid poise and heart.

the U.S. needs tuh get rid of that badoya guy and the new central defender/ i think his name is goodson or something like that, they were the weakest links in the whole tourney, i think if they had onyewo and clark in the midfield things would've went differently.

mexico got lucky today, the only goal they scored that off set the U.S. defense was the first goal, other than dat, all their goals were weak scrable goals BC of a lack of experience by the newbee defenders and midfielders.

Yuh no I don't come on this board to often but when I read some responses I can't help but be amused by it,you obviously was watching a different game than me.

It was a very exciting game on both ends but the better side prevailed end of story!!!!! 
Breds even the blind could see that the U.S. losen up on mexico and let them back in the game, but there's no way mexico was that out standing. so that you know complaisance is ah hell of ah thing, i think it woulda served the U.S. better if mexico had scored first BC the U.S. lightened up a whole lot and got careless.

not taking anything away from mexico though, they did well by clawing their way back into the game and deserved to be champs, but it's not like they did it in fine style, all they did was exploited ah weak U.S. right side where their full back was out of sorts, same way the U.S. exploited our full backs in the last campaign when aklie and and hislop was having a hell of a time.

if the wolfman (the old right back..... forgot his name) and oneywo was in that game mexico woulda caught hell to score one single fackin goal, as you could see three of mexico's goals were extreme defensive errors, if yuh don't believe me, the next time mexico play the U.S. in any serious competitive game that goodson fella and the full backs would not feature.   trust meh!

bob bradley tried ah thing and it didn't work, next time he should come with all his guns instead of trying to bleed new players against top opposition.  but when i said mexico got lucky, i meant they played against ah disorganized defense and scored some sloppy scramble goals due to extreme defensive errors.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 26, 2011, 03:41:46 PM
Just Cool... no offense, but you talking crazy.  The US didn't loosen up and let Mexico back in that game... Mexico was never out of it the way they were playing.  They had three legitimate goalscoring opportunities before the US scored... and that was in the 8th minute.  Chicharito and Barrera were skinning them apart whole game and the focus on Chicharito in fact is what created space and opportunity for Dos Santos.  You talking about Onyewu??  I don't know if you've noticed, but Onyewu hasn't been the same player since tearing up his knee against Costa Rica (?) last year.  He was already slow to begin with, now he's practically immobile. 

At least he has injuries to use as an excuse... Bocanegra and Goodson just slow, period.  The US loves these big physical defenders (Cherundolo being the exception) and then they wonder why they have problems with skillful forwards on teams that don't rely on an aerial attack.  Quick, name one time when a cross came in the US box from a corner yesterday?  Not once... everything was played short b/c Mexico realize they not going to outjump or out physical Goodson et al... and not need to, not when you can run rings around them.  I realize yuh can't stand Mexico but that shouldn't stop you from given them their due.  "clawed their way back"?  As I said the other day, this is a different Mexican squad from the ones we're used to seeing with Hugo Sanchez and the Cuathemoc Blanco simulating, diving and play acting.  These fellas could ball and that can ah ass-whupping they open up on the US yesterday, no fluke two-goal lead was going to prevent that.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kicker on June 26, 2011, 03:45:30 PM
^^^^^ Ditto ^^^^^^
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 26, 2011, 03:48:20 PM
Adu looked great, USA looked poor.  Mexico should have won this game alot more comfortably than they did....quality U.S. goals though, but funny enough, they were no where in the game when they scored...very strange how the 1st 25 mins of the game went.   

4-2 actually flattered the States in the end.  Apart from Adu, US has no players with genuine skill and natural expression - Until they figure that out, they will always be on a tier or two below real quality. 
You talking outa timin! don't let yuh bias cloud your vision, Bc fellas like clint dempsey , donovan , edu, altidor , jermain jones (good find) bradley a superb defensive mid, and bocanegra is all top notch quality players, and what i like about them men is that they don't roll on the ground and carry on wid shenanigans when they leading, they does play the game honest wid poise and heart.

the U.S. needs tuh get rid of that badoya guy and the new central defender/ i think his name is goodson or something like that, they were the weakest links in the whole tourney, i think if they had onyewo and clark in the midfield things would've went differently.

mexico got lucky today, the only goal they scored that off set the U.S. defense was the first goal, other than dat, all their goals were weak scrable goals BC of a lack of experience by the newbee defenders and midfielders.

Yuh no I don't come on this board to often but when I read some responses I can't help but be amused by it,you obviously was watching a different game than me.

It was a very exciting game on both ends but the better side prevailed end of story!!!!! 
Breds even the blind could see that the U.S. losen up on mexico and let them back in the game, but there's no way mexico was that out standing. so that you know complaisance is ah hell of ah thing, i think it woulda served the U.S. better if mexico had scored first BC the U.S. lightened up a whole lot and got careless.

not taking anything away from mexico though, they did well by clawing their way back into the game and deserved to be champs, but it's not like they did it in fine style, all they did was exploited ah weak U.S. right side where their full back was out of sorts, same way the U.S. exploited our full backs in the last campaign when aklie and and hislop was having a hell of a time.

if the wolfman (the old right back..... forgot his name) and oneywo was in that game mexico woulda caught hell to score one single fackin goal, as you could see three of mexico's goals were extreme defensive errors, if yuh don't believe me, the next time mexico play the U.S. in any serious competitive game that goodson fella and the full backs would not feature.   trust meh!

bob bradley tried ah thing and it didn't work, next time he should come with all his guns instead of trying to bleed new players against top opposition.  but when i said mexico got lucky, i meant they played against ah disorganized defense and scored some sloppy scramble goals due to extreme defensive errors.


believe it or not, I fall asleep just before the lineups were posted and miss the whole game.....but you seem to be the only one posting that see it from the perspective that you do.....so everybody have it wrong and is only you have it right?!  ???
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 26, 2011, 04:14:17 PM
No way, USA was gonna win that game. I bet on Mexico after they went 2-0 down and got my ROI.  ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Preacher on June 26, 2011, 10:59:09 PM
Just saw the game now.  Feliz text meh the score after 30mins.....I was like nah!!!!!  But after watching that game.  USA did all that they could do.  Even with luck for each team the score would have been 7-3 in favor of Mexico.  Mexico has been killing teams in this Gold Cup so no surprise there. 
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 27, 2011, 01:29:58 AM
Breds even the blind could see that the U.S. losen up on mexico and let them back in the game,

Nah, JC, I beg to differr bro. US loosen up on Mex with an early 2-0 lead. No way. Mexico beat the US convincingly, at least to me. Some of the goal may not be spectacular. So what? Look the US is no longer a walk over as 20 yrs ago for Mex. The Mex. and them know that. They does come prepared to play the US now. And you must remember the vast majority of the US victory has been in the US and the one WC victory abroad. But team don't take each other lightly anymore. I expect the US to continue challenging Mex., which is good for the region. That means the rest of the region)Carib) have to come better to beat them 2.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: GunnerStunner on June 27, 2011, 07:31:38 AM
is dos santos the mexican ronaldinho?

that 4th goal was superb

why cant usa defend like that when we play them?

or 

we dont have the ball brains to play like that?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 27, 2011, 08:04:54 AM
is dos santos the mexican ronaldinho?

that 4th goal was superb

why cant usa defend like that when we play them?

or 

we dont have the ball brains to play like that?

Trinidad aint playing that level of football to skin open America like that.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Andre DosSantos on June 27, 2011, 08:17:30 AM
is dos santos the mexican ronaldinho?

that 4th goal was superb

why cant usa defend like that when we play them?

or 

we dont have the ball brains to play like that?

you could say that, he does look like him but you have to remember that ronnie was his role model back when they were both back at Barcaleona. Also he and his brother is half mex/brasil. But his touches in the box def. reminded me of Dinho.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Jayerson on June 27, 2011, 08:51:17 AM
I don't undersyand why Dos Santos doesn't make a bigger impact in club football. He's obviously a very talented play. I think someone alluded to he's something like Miroslav Klose, but some coach out there must be able to get that out of him at club level.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 27, 2011, 09:31:38 AM
It have men who shine at the club but can't carry their national team(Messi, the verdict still out on him, plus he has youth on his side). Dosantos shine at the national team level but, is unable to hold down a spot in a big club. That is the way the cookie crumbles sometime. I would love to have him on TT side, even if he was playing for the Hardest XI.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on June 27, 2011, 09:34:57 AM
Breds even the blind could see that the U.S. losen up on mexico and let them back in the game,

Nah, JC, I beg to differr bro. US loosen up on Mex with an early 2-0 lead. No way. Mexico beat the US convincingly, at least to me. Some of the goal may not be spectacular. So what? Look the US is no longer a walk over as 20 yrs ago for Mex. The Mex. and them know that. They does come prepared to play the US now. And you must remember the vast majority of the US victory has been in the US and the one WC victory abroad. But team don't take each other lightly anymore. I expect the US to continue challenging Mex., which is good for the region. That means the rest of the region)Carib) have to come better to beat them 2.

plus some of  those Mexican players are from the 2005 under 17 world cup team which they won
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Arazi on June 27, 2011, 10:41:51 AM
Breds even the blind could see that the U.S. losen up on mexico and let them back in the game,

Nah, JC, I beg to differr bro. US loosen up on Mex with an early 2-0 lead. No way. Mexico beat the US convincingly, at least to me. Some of the goal may not be spectacular. So what? Look the US is no longer a walk over as 20 yrs ago for Mex. The Mex. and them know that. They does come prepared to play the US now. And you must remember the vast majority of the US victory has been in the US and the one WC victory abroad. But team don't take each other lightly anymore. I expect the US to continue challenging Mex., which is good for the region. That means the rest of the region)Carib) have to come better to beat them 2.

i may be wrong eh, but I don't think the US ever beat the Mexico in Mexico, far less in WCQ...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: grskywalker on June 27, 2011, 10:49:05 AM
Adu looked great, USA looked poor.  Mexico should have won this game alot more comfortably than they did....quality U.S. goals though, but funny enough, they were no where in the game when they scored...very strange how the 1st 25 mins of the game went.   

4-2 actually flattered the States in the end.  Apart from Adu, US has no players with genuine skill and natural expression - Until they figure that out, they will always be on a tier or two below real quality. 
You talking outa timin! don't let yuh bias cloud your vision, Bc fellas like clint dempsey , donovan , edu, altidor , jermain jones (good find) bradley a superb defensive mid, and bocanegra is all top notch quality players, and what i like about them men is that they don't roll on the ground and carry on wid shenanigans when they leading, they does play the game honest wid poise and heart.

the U.S. needs tuh get rid of that badoya guy and the new central defender/ i think his name is goodson or something like that, they were the weakest links in the whole tourney, i think if they had onyewo and clark in the midfield things would've went differently.

mexico got lucky today, the only goal they scored that off set the U.S. defense was the first goal, other than dat, all their goals were weak scrable goals BC of a lack of experience by the newbee defenders and midfielders.

Yuh no I don't come on this board to often but when I read some responses I can't help but be amused by it,you obviously was watching a different game than me.

It was a very exciting game on both ends but the better side prevailed end of story!!!!! 
Breds even the blind could see that the U.S. losen up on mexico and let them back in the game, but there's no way mexico was that out standing. so that you know complaisance is ah hell of ah thing, i think it woulda served the U.S. better if mexico had scored first BC the U.S. lightened up a whole lot and got careless.

not taking anything away from mexico though, they did well by clawing their way back into the game and deserved to be champs, but it's not like they did it in fine style, all they did was exploited ah weak U.S. right side where their full back was out of sorts, same way the U.S. exploited our full backs in the last campaign when aklie and and hislop was having a hell of a time.

if the wolfman (the old right back..... forgot his name) and oneywo was in that game mexico woulda caught hell to score one single fackin goal, as you could see three of mexico's goals were extreme defensive errors, if yuh don't believe me, the next time mexico play the U.S. in any serious competitive game that goodson fella and the full backs would not feature.   trust meh!

bob bradley tried ah thing and it didn't work, next time he should come with all his guns instead of trying to bleed new players against top opposition.  but when i said mexico got lucky, i meant they played against ah disorganized defense and scored some sloppy scramble goals due to extreme defensive errors.

All these comments about Mexico get lucky, Mexico was not that outstanding, US step off the gas is a lot of bull. I mean are you really serious!!!! Mexico came out to win and kept pressing till the end. US was just out played and out gunned by a very youthful and vibrant Mexico team. Why would you step off the gas in a final of this magnitude, that don't make sense???? I thoroughly enjoyed this game from beginning to end, and just like the MAN U vs BARCA final, nuff football went down! DOS SANTOS  was pure poison and my man of the match, they could not contain him! GOOD LAWWD AND THAT GOAL WAS A BEAUTY!!!!
 Borneo's goal was class as well
Sad for TNT because I cannot see us beating either if these teams for the upcoming qualifiers. We have to get a team first LOL
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Peong on June 27, 2011, 11:22:12 AM
Just Cool I searched for a report or blog or live commentary that supports your opinion that USA was dominating that period where they score 2.  I could find none!  The comments I see is that despite conceding, Mexico was dominating play.

Mexico was the more attacking team all game, including the opening period where USA got their goals.  Not that the US didn't attack, but the play was very even.
In that opening 20-something minutes, USA managed to take their chances while Mexico did not, that was the only real difference between the two at that point.
All Mexico did was continue in attack the same way they began.

Mexico made defensive mistakes too.  For Bradley's goal the defender let him run free.
For Donovan's goal, the defender did the same, he did not stay with Donovan as he ran across the area to collect the final pass.

For Mexico's first goal, there was no defensive mistake, it was just a beautiful pass and a good run and shot.  Mexico's 2nd was due to a big mistake by the US defender.  On the third, the mistake I guess you will refer to is the poor clearance that fell to a Mexico player.  However they still had time to recover from that one.  On the 4th I think the defenders just got bamboozled after Gio got away from Howard.  Allyuh see Jones actually run AWAY from Gio?  That was kicks.

Mexico had 9 shots on goal vs 4 for the US.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: just cool on June 27, 2011, 12:31:17 PM
Ah right allyuh take MDCNT win nah man and loww meh, after all it's just my opinion, who says that it have to be right. ::)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: just cool on June 27, 2011, 01:50:58 PM
is dos santos the mexican ronaldinho?

that 4th goal was superb

why cant usa defend like that when we play them?

or 

we dont have the ball brains to play like that?

Trinidad aint playing that level of football to skin open America like that.
Breds, this is the weakest USA defense in almost 10 yrs. as a matter of fact, this might be the weakest USA team i've ever seen.

the team that came to HSC in 2008 that we beat in the 2nd round WCQ was stronger than this team minus bradley, donovan, dempsey, howard, oneywo, bocanegra, but they did have  heath pearce , beasley, edu, altidor, charlie davies, sacha kljesten, frankie hejduk, freddy adu. the only new comers were micheal orrozco and danny callif,  jose toress was just getting his feet wet but he featured in a few games before that, and yeh brad guzzan.

in the yrs gone by with coby and mc bride the US was bussin arse, but this team would take good licks in the future.

ah know as much as allyuh want tuh rate up mexico, they are not this great team ppl make them out to be. remember jamaica beat them not too long ago and the same honduras team that JA buss with ah B squad , mexico catch their nennen tuh beat. i feel this time around if T&T get their act together (which i doubt) we could qualify for brazil, BC concacaf don't look so strong this time around after all.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 27, 2011, 02:46:04 PM
Just Cool... the Mexican defense was very suspect, and that was even before Rafa Marquez went down.  I doubt anybody saying this Mexican team great or unbeatable.  But with Chicharito and Gio up front Mexico will give any team in the world right now some pressure.  If Barrera round into form on top of that and they'll be even harder to stop.  The biggest difference now between this Mexican team and teams of the past that you mention is Chicharito.  You mention Jamaica... you honestly think Jamaica beating this team?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kicker on June 27, 2011, 02:53:30 PM
Just Cool... the Mexican defense was very suspect, and that was even before Rafa Marquez went down.  I doubt anybody saying this Mexican team great or unbeatable.  But with Chicharito and Gio up front Mexico will give any team in the world right now some pressure.  If Barrera round into form on top of that and they'll be even harder to stop.  The biggest difference now between this Mexican team and teams of the past that you mention is Chicharito.  You mention Jamaica... you honestly think Jamaica beating this team?

Doh forget Guardado - the guy is quality.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 27, 2011, 03:19:16 PM
 I think Mex. could take on England now in Wembley or Azteca and give them a run for they money.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Spursy on June 27, 2011, 03:33:41 PM
Mexico got lucky, plain and simple. USA tried to play the italian Catenaccio, it sucks the opponents in, and after they lost hope hit them on the counter, but been solid and not letting goals in have a big part in this. After Mexico scored, it was shattering this style of play by the americans as they have almost perfected the art of it.

While some may suggest passing fluently etc is considered the"right" way to play football, i beg to differ, been solid and more clinical is beautiful in itself, like the great inter side of 2010.

Mexico got lucky Demspey and Goodison missed their chances, especially duece volley that rocketed off the cross bar. Mexico was lucky.. they had the lions share of possesion but couldnt do anything with it.

I agree that USA let up the pressure and became careless after the 2 goal lead, credit to mexico fans, they weere the real winners on the nite.

Curiously i found this: The system was made famous by the Franco-Argentine trainer Helenio Herrera of Internazionale in the 1960s who used it to grind out 1 – 0 wins over opponents in their league games.


INTER :)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kicker on June 27, 2011, 03:39:17 PM
After Mexico scored, it was shattering this style of play by the americans as they have almost perfected the art of it.

With all due respect to American soccer, they haven't almost perfected anything in the game... They still have a decent ways to go in pretty much every department, and even they know it. 

Italian Catennaccio my arse...
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: DeSoWa on June 27, 2011, 03:44:26 PM


Mexico got lucky Demspey and Goodison missed their chances, especially duece volley that rocketed off the cross bar. Mexico was lucky.. they had the lions share of possesion but couldnt do anything with it.

You are so right about this comment...all they coulda muster was a measly 4 goals  :D

Big Up!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: richpy on June 27, 2011, 03:46:16 PM
is dos santos the mexican ronaldinho?

that 4th goal was superb

why cant usa defend like that when we play them?

or 

we dont have the ball brains to play like that?

you could say that, he does look like him but you have to remember that ronnie was his role model back when they were both back at Barcaleona. Also he and his brother is half mex/brasil. But his touches in the box def. reminded me of Dinho.

Doh forget he used to get plenty sweat in Rijkaard's Barca, so he know what it is to play for a big side. I think is ill-discipline or something throw him off.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Spursy on June 27, 2011, 03:58:46 PM
alyuh so f'ing closed minded and brutal on this site eh... i gorn yes. tell me thou... all the bad usa is .. tnt cant touch dem. something for u all to mutter about.i freaking hate dos santos.. such a little fagget sheesh!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 27, 2011, 04:01:34 PM
Mexico got lucky, plain and simple. USA tried to play the italian Catenaccio, it sucks the opponents in, and after they lost hope hit them on the counter, but been solid and not letting goals in have a big part in this. After Mexico scored, it was shattering this style of play by the americans as they have almost perfected the art of it.

While some may suggest passing fluently etc is considered the"right" way to play football, i beg to differ, been solid and more clinical is beautiful in itself, like the great inter side of 2010.

Mexico got lucky Demspey and Goodison missed their chances, especially duece volley that rocketed off the cross bar. Mexico was lucky.. they had the lions share of possesion but couldnt do anything with it.

I agree that USA let up the pressure and became careless after the 2 goal lead, credit to mexico fans, they weere the real winners on the nite.

Curiously i found this: The system was made famous by the Franco-Argentine trainer Helenio Herrera of Internazionale in the 1960s who used it to grind out 1 – 0 wins over opponents in their league games.


INTER :)

nah Bro!!!. mex. played ball and created their own luck. 2 or 3 yrs ago the Mex. would have wilted. Not this side. They ready for any top 10 "FIFA ranking" team. Any!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Pointman on June 27, 2011, 04:29:31 PM
is dos santos the mexican ronaldinho?

that 4th goal was superb

why cant usa defend like that when we play them?

or 

we dont have the ball brains to play like that?

He's more like the Mexican Messi...just less skillful.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Bakes on June 27, 2011, 04:40:51 PM
alyuh so f'ing closed minded and brutal on this site eh... i gorn yes. tell me thou... all the bad usa is .. tnt cant touch dem. something for u all to mutter about.i freaking hate dos santos.. such a little fagget sheesh!

I normally doh even bother waste time responding to you eh... but ah couldn't help note de irony of ironies.

Doh get vex because man tell yuh yuh talking shit.  You's probably the only man on this planet insistng that the US tried to play "catenaccio" when everybody else pongin' Bradley for not playing conservatively enough with the lead. Asked about the aggressive strategy, Bradley himself confirm that he wasn't thinking conservative by saying he thought they had a chance to go for a third goal before the half.  Whey he was getting that from... de counter attack?

steups
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Small Change on June 27, 2011, 04:42:38 PM
That current Mexico team would give our jokey, current TnT team (included KJ, Edwards and Scotland) about 7 minimum in Trini's home ground. At Mex's home, I would say minimum 12!!!!!!!!!!

We are not at the that level of play. The speed, pace, technical ability, and poise of these Mexicans are amazing. We TnT players are just not ready for them. Both US, and Mex would devour us right. We have fallen down to the bottom of the barrel with Barbados, St. Vincent, St. Kitts, etc. In a nut-shell, we are utter garbage!!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: FF on June 27, 2011, 04:44:56 PM
Mexico got lucky, plain and simple. USA tried to play the italian Catenaccio, it sucks the opponents in, and after they lost hope hit them on the counter, but been solid and not letting goals in have a big part in this. After Mexico scored, it was shattering this style of play by the americans as they have almost perfected the art of it.

While some may suggest passing fluently etc is considered the"right" way to play football, i beg to differ, been solid and more clinical is beautiful in itself, like the great inter side of 2010.

Mexico got lucky Demspey and Goodison missed their chances, especially duece volley that rocketed off the cross bar. Mexico was lucky.. they had the lions share of possesion but couldnt do anything with it.

I agree that USA let up the pressure and became careless after the 2 goal lead, credit to mexico fans, they weere the real winners on the nite.

Curiously i found this: The system was made famous by the Franco-Argentine trainer Helenio Herrera of Internazionale in the 1960s who used it to grind out 1 – 0 wins over opponents in their league games.


INTER :)

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Stop talking sh!t

Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 27, 2011, 06:08:23 PM
That current Mexico team would give our jokey, current TnT team (included KJ, Edwards and Scotland) about 7 minimum in Trini's home ground. At Mex's home, I would say minimum 12!!!!!!!!!!

We are not at the that level of play. The speed, pace, technical ability, and poise of these Mexicans are amazing. We TnT players are just not ready for them. Both US, and Mex would devour us right. We have fallen down to the bottom of the barrel with Barbados, St. Vincent, St. Kitts, etc. In a nut-shell, we are utter garbage!!

And whose fault is that?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: just cool on June 27, 2011, 06:39:16 PM
That current Mexico team would give our jokey, current TnT team (included KJ, Edwards and Scotland) about 7 minimum in Trini's home ground. At Mex's home, I would say minimum 12!!!!!!!!!!

We are not at the that level of play. The speed, pace, technical ability, and poise of these Mexicans are amazing. We TnT players are just not ready for them. Both US, and Mex would devour us right. We have fallen down to the bottom of the barrel with Barbados, St. Vincent, St. Kitts, etc. In a nut-shell, we are utter garbage!!
Madness!! this mexican team have some of the fellas that played against that 2nd string T&T team that drew 2-2 on the final day of last WCQ hex @ the HSC! remember mexico doesn't travel well, and despite all the praise allyuh want tuh shower on them, they actually scored three very poor goals, goals that they would never see or get from the USA team again as long as bob bradley's in charge.

allyuh have to remember that bob bradley is ah very good troubleshooter, and he will see to it that mexico never trumps them like that again especially after holding such ah comfortable lead.

i honestly believe that jamaica and "T&T" (if they get their sh!t together, which i seriously doubt) (providing they had their best available players,) would beat this mexican team, as yuh know, we do match up better with them than the U.S..

i just waiting for the WCQ, allyuh would see how good this team really is. carry on guys, i  :waiting:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 27, 2011, 06:44:54 PM
the game replaying on fox right now.

http://www.atdhenet.tv/37699/watch-fox-soccer-channel
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 27, 2011, 07:47:25 PM
Ah right allyuh take MDCNT win nah man ah loww meh, after all it's just my opinion, who says that it have to be right. ::)

 :heehee: :heehee:  :-X
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Brownsugar on June 27, 2011, 07:49:39 PM
i just waiting for the WCQ, allyuh would see how good this team really is. carry on guys, i  :waiting:

I waiting for World Cup cuz we all know dem two teams goh be dey.....den I'll enjoy watching BooSA wilt under pressure.....yet again.... ::)
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: grskywalker on June 27, 2011, 08:03:33 PM
honestly believe that jamaica and "T&T" (if they get their sh!t together, which i seriously doubt) (providing they had their best available players,) would beat this mexican team, as yuh know, we do match up better with them than the U.S..

i just waiting for the WCQ, allyuh would see how good this team really is. carry on guys, i  Waiting

You have identified the two reasons why we not able and probably would not be in Brazil
We DON'T HAVE OUR SHIT TOGETHER
WE CANNOT IDENTIFY WHO ARE OUR BEST PLAYERS
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: davyjenny1 on June 28, 2011, 12:08:15 AM
That current Mexico team would give our jokey, current TnT team (included KJ, Edwards and Scotland) about 7 minimum in Trini's home ground. At Mex's home, I would say minimum 12!!!!!!!!!!

We are not at the that level of play. The speed, pace, technical ability, and poise of these Mexicans are amazing. We TnT players are just not ready for them. Both US, and Mex would devour us right. We have fallen down to the bottom of the barrel with Barbados, St. Vincent, St. Kitts, etc. In a nut-shell, we are utter garbage!!

So yuh eh know is always yuh own does do yuh??
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on June 28, 2011, 12:10:04 AM
 ;D  This forum is rel kicks oui!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: warmonga on June 28, 2011, 01:24:12 PM
honestly believe that jamaica and "T&T" (if they get their sh!t together, which i seriously doubt) (providing they had their best available players,) would beat this mexican team, as yuh know, we do match up better with them than the U.S..

i just waiting for the WCQ, allyuh would see how good this team really is. carry on guys, i  Waiting

You have identified the two reasons why we not able and probably would not be in Brazil
We DON'T HAVE OUR SHIT TOGETHER
WE CANNOT IDENTIFY WHO ARE OUR BEST PLAYERS
Now I see who tek mi bloodclaut weed and smoke it..

war
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Deeks on June 28, 2011, 02:36:53 PM
honestly believe that jamaica and "T&T" (if they get their sh!t together, which i seriously doubt) (providing they had their best available players,) would beat this mexican team, as yuh know, we do match up better with them than the U.S..

i just waiting for the WCQ, allyuh would see how good this team really is. carry on guys, i  Waiting

You have identified the two reasons why we not able and probably would not be in Brazil
We DON'T HAVE OUR SHIT TOGETHER
WE CANNOT IDENTIFY WHO ARE OUR BEST PLAYERS
Now I see who tek mi bloodclaut weed and smoke it..

war

You read the entire statement?
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: elan on June 28, 2011, 03:41:31 PM
When WCQ starting November? JC ah waiting to see yuh prediction come through.
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 28, 2011, 06:44:38 PM
Aye i just remember a man missing , whey zeppo ? i aint seeing none of he poster pics  :devil:


Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: AirMan on June 28, 2011, 07:47:06 PM
some man in here supporting Mexico win over teh US as if we Trini team beat the US  :rotfl:

At the end of the day we have a very long way to go if we want to reach US or Mexico level
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: D.H.W on June 28, 2011, 07:49:09 PM
some man in here supporting Mexico win over teh US as if we Trini team beat the US  :rotfl:

of course! , when USA lorse its a great day in hater history  :devil: , the fire does bun bright
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: kaliman2006 on June 30, 2011, 03:37:33 PM
some man in here supporting Mexico win over teh US as if we Trini team beat the US  :rotfl:

of course! , when USA lorse its a great day in hater history  :devil: , the fire does bun bright

I was celebrating when Gyan buss de net against them in June of last year.

The hate definitely burns brightly for me.

 :devil:
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: giggsy11 on June 30, 2011, 07:18:52 PM
Ah was watching some ole United games when Tim Howard was the goalie. Back in dem days his arse was not shouting down nobody especially when he was letting in goals when he was still setting up free kick walls or parrying balls into his net! I aint even see him twitch in his direction. I feel most off he stuff is gallery because he know camera does be on the goalie after goal score! Just check him out after that four he take in he arse against Mexico- after the third one the man was on he knees pounding the ground! Steups!
Title: Re: 2011 Gold Cup Thread.
Post by: Mango Chow! on July 01, 2011, 04:21:47 PM
some man in here supporting Mexico win over teh US as if we Trini team beat the US  :rotfl:

of course! , when USA lorse its a great day in hater history  :devil: , the fire does bun bright

I was celebrating when Gyan buss de net against them in June of last year.

The hate definitely burns brightly for me.

 :devil:

...and here it is I thought I was all alone. ;D


Ah was watching some ole United games when Tim Howard was the goalie. Back in dem days his arse was not shouting down nobody especially when he was letting in goals when he was still setting up free kick walls or parrying balls into his net! I aint even see him twitch in his direction. I feel most off he stuff is gallery because he know camera does be on the goalie after goal score! Just check him out after that four he take in he arse against Mexico- after the third one the man was on he knees pounding the ground! Steups!


I really do think that is what it is.  Sometimes I does see him carryin' on for no reason whatsoever.  tony meola used to love de camera, too, but he wasn't so demonstrative.  He just used to like to pose long and hard whenever he had the ball. 

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