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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: zuluwarrior on May 01, 2011, 08:49:19 PM
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CNN just reported Osama Bin Ladin is dead and they the US have his body .
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I was NOW coming to post that same thing.
Is a hoax. I want to see the long form Osama Bin Laden body bag...
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They was saying that they took his DNA to be sure it was him that they got .
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Meh friggin padnah call me, and ask if ah watching the news. He say they kill Obama, ah say WHAA!!! then he say yeah Bin Laden dead. Ah cuss he ass.
Tell the wife the same way I got the news, she almost pass out before I could finish the story.
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I was NOW coming to post that same thing.
Is a hoax. I want to see the long form Osama Bin Laden body bag...
if is a hoax, then allllllllllllllllll dem news stations eat dat chain up
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dey find de dialysis machine too???????
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well its official. obama made his speech. bin laden dead. lets hope his followers dont retaliate
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so US pulling out of afghanistan and iraq now?
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Now what?
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Trump asked to see his Birth certificate.
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Trump asked to see his Birth certificate.
They go release the long-form death certificate.
I read somewhere that he dead since last week, so all when Obama was talking about birth certificates and silliness he know serious business was going down.
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Trump asked to see his Birth certificate.
They go release the long-form death certificate.
I read somewhere that he dead since last week, so all when Obama was talking about birth certificates and silliness he know serious business was going down.
multi-tasking at its finest
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Trump asked to see his Birth certificate.
They go release the long-form death certificate.
I read somewhere that he dead since last week, so all when Obama was talking about birth certificates and silliness he know serious business was going down.
multi-tasking at its finest
He could have been dead since last month, you'll never know. I don't trust these fellas.
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Now what?
Now Trump could go away, Sarah Palin could hush she pie hole, F*cks News goes up in smoke.....
And President Obama re-elected :beermug:
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Trump asked to see his Birth certificate.
They go release the long-form death certificate.
I read somewhere that he dead since last week, so all when Obama was talking about birth certificates and silliness he know serious business was going down.
multi-tasking at its finest
He could have been dead since last month, you'll never know. I don't trust these fellas.
Yuh believe when yuh dead yuh sprouting wings like ah butterfly yet yuh he have no faith in de GREAT US of A?
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He could have been dead since last month, you'll never know. I don't trust these fellas.
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Yuh believe when yuh dead yuh sprouting wings like ah butterfly yet yuh he have no faith in de GREAT US of A?
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No faith in Babylon systems. ;D
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Apparently dey identify him as much as 4 years back and been tracking de compound for 2 years. And dey didn't share intel with Pakistan - Ha! Good work by de CIA. Dey quiet all now. Ghaddaffi next...
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Now what?
Find Bin's sons and grand children. Chemical warfare in we ass. Nobody knows what them look like and heck they can be walking amongst us all now. I'm sure Bin (ah sure he in his late 60s by now) give up the reins to his boys to carry on his work long time.
Army not coming home in a hurry!!!
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(http://www.yasrsly.com/wp-content/main/2011_05/obama-sorry-it-took-so-long.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/e-GNwpF9RoM
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Trump wants a death certificate... :rotfl:
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Judgment day came 3 weeks early for Bin Ladin
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Possible successors
Al-Qaeda's remaining leaders
Ayman al-Zawahiri
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49399000/jpg/_49399648_004891455-1.jpg)
Abu Yahya al-Libi
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Khalid al-Habib
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Adnan el Shukrijumah
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49400000/jpg/_49400022_elshukrijumah322-1.jpg)
Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11489337 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11489337)
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A U.S. official says Osama bin Laden has been buried at sea. After bin Laden was killed in a raid by U.S. forces in Pakistan, yesterday, senior administration officials said the body would be handled according to Islamic practice and tradition. That practice calls for the body to be buried within 24 hours, the official said. Finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world's most wanted terrorist would have been difficult, the official said. So the U.S. decided to bury him at sea.-AP
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And President Obama re-elected :beermug:
Ent, de opposition party eh go have nuttn dey could oppose him on now
Either way,a lot morally uplifting news in one weekend for folks in the U.K. and the U.S.
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A U.S. official says Osama bin Laden has been buried at sea. After bin Laden was killed in a raid by U.S. forces in Pakistan, yesterday, senior administration officials said the body would be handled according to Islamic practice and tradition. That practice calls for the body to be buried within 24 hours, the official said. Finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world's most wanted terrorist would have been difficult, the official said. So the U.S. decided to bury him at sea.-AP
Code pink would have accepted him and built a shrine for him....
Heard that CIA Officials watched the killing in real time..
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It is a political mater stroke by Obama . His speech is multifaceted and achieves a few key things for Obama
1) It strengthens confidence US intelligence and counter terrorism capabilit...y
2) It highlights a definite change in strategy from the previous government
3) it highlights not just the fruits of that change in the removal of the top target but of a broader approach to improving security in the Iraq and Afghanistan
4) It shows himself as a strong Commander in Chief in the face of public criticism of domestic policy and some silly remarks by trump et al
5) It is also a platform for fostering national pride and extols the virtues of Americanism. His approval rating will definitely increase because of this news.
Increases in approval ratings for Presidents also tend to coincide with an uptick in economic growth due to better investor and consumer confidence.
On another note the death of OBL affects little from a security standpoint. Even the CIA reported that Al Queda was significantly weakened and that Bin Laden's span of control had diminished for some time now. Al Queda like all terrorist groups has succession planning and he definitely has already been replaced.
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Trump fired Gary Busey but Obama fired Osama for good.
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(http://www.yasrsly.com/wp-content/main/2011_05/obama-sorry-it-took-so-long.jpg)
:devil: ;D
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(http://www.yasrsly.com/wp-content/main/2011_05/obama-sorry-it-took-so-long.jpg)
dem photochop boy doh make joke nah
this alone should garner him enough 'political capital' to start back doin he starboy urban gait
cyah wait to see what the tinfoil hats will come up with
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Hamid Karzai says search inside Afghanistan was wrong
Hamid Karzai has said the death of Osama bin Laden in a US special forces raid in Pakistan has proven Nato's search for al Qaeda inside Afghanistan was wrong.
By Ben Farmer, Kabul 12:32PM BST 02 May 2011
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8487794/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Hamid-Karzai-says-search-inside-Afghanistan-was-wrong.html
The Afghan president said the death of the terror network founder in Abbottabad vindicated his long-standing criticism of Nato tactics inside Afghanistan.
He told a gathering of tribal leaders and cabinet ministers in Kabul that large numbers of innocent civilians had died in Nato raids and search operations despite his protestations the war on terror should instead be waged in Pakistan.
His former spy chief also told the Daily Telegraph he believed Pakistan had to have known of bin Laden's location and have been hiding him.
"Again and again, for years and every day we have said that the war on terror is not in Afghan villages, not in Afghan houses of the poor and oppressed," Mr Karzai said.
"The war against terrorism is in its sources, in its financial sources, its sanctuaries, in its training bases, not in Afghanistan," Karzai said.
"It was proved that we were right." The Afghan president welcomed the death as important news and said the Saudi militant leader had "paid for his actions" though emphasised he had been found "close to Islamabad" He also used the death to call on the Taliban to "learn a lesson from this" saying the movement should "refrain from fighting".
Amrullah Saleh, who ran Afghanistan's intelligence agency until last year, said bin Laden could not have lived in the town of Abbottabad without the connivance of Pakistan's intelligence agencies.
Mr Saleh said there was "no way" bin Laden could have lived in a mansion in a town populated by Pakistan's military and middle classes without the knowledge of the powerful ISI spy agency.
He said: "Does Pakistan want the whole world to believe that the intelligence agency of a nuclear state did not know Bin Laden was there?"
"If bin Laden can hide there for ten years, of course Mullah Omar [leader of the Taliban] and his Quetta Shura are nearby and can be protected," he said.
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I also heard Canadian Intelligence assisted too. They were used to direct traffic in down down Islamabad.
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I also heard Canadian Intelligence assisted too. They were used to direct traffic in down down Islamabad.
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
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Meh friggin padnah call me, and ask if ah watching the news. He say they kill Obama, ah say WHAA!!! then he say yeah Bin Laden dead. Ah cuss he ass.
Tell the wife the same way I got the news, she almost pass out before I could finish the story.
:rotfl:
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R.I.P Osama Bin Laden - World Hide And Go Seek Champion (2001 - 2011) :rotfl:
Ah man post that on the express blogs.
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"If bin Laden can hide there for ten years, of course Mullah Omar [leader of the Taliban] and his Quetta Shura are nearby and can be protected," he said.
let we see team six go after de taliban leaders living in pakistan next. is one thing to kill some arab in pakistan but one of dey own is another story. :-\
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R.I.P Osama Bin Laden - World Hide And Go Seek Champion (2001 - 2011) :rotfl:
Ah man post that on the express blogs.
Stolen from Facebook....
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buried at sea :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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buried at sea :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:rotfl: like they dig ah hole in the sea and bury the man
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I also heard Canadian Intelligence assisted too. They were used to direct traffic in down down Islamabad.
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
:rotfl: :rotfl:
De both ah all yuh just silly..... ;D
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R.I.P Osama Bin Laden - World Hide And Go Seek Champion (2001 - 2011) :rotfl:
Ah man post that on the express blogs.
Stolen from Facebook....
stolen from Memebase
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more from memebase
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(http://artoftrolling.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/chatroulette-trolling-osama-bin-trolling.jpg)
(http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/memes-trumps-words-on-osamas-death.jpg)
(http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/memes-untitled3.jpg)
(http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/memes-osama-bin-laden.jpg)
(http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/memes-virgins-were-a-lie-osama-rage.jpg)
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Question: are these in poor taste? should one celebrate the death of a person, no matter how much he is despised?
I personally found them funny but what does that say about me?
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To each his own...I too would not celebrate and rejoice, especially in public, the death, especially killing of another human being. But I don't think these pics are disrespectful, just my thought.
Big Up!
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those pics were funny as hell. i personally glad d man dead. but i also believe, his followers will retaliate :-\
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Supposedly taken at the time OBL was killed.
(http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/02/5680724572_d4696d593d_b.jpg)
Caption anyone?
Big Up!
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serious thing , they watching it live as it happen
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President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, along with members of the national security team, receive an update on the mission against Osama bin Laden in the Situation Room of the White House, May 1, 2011. Seated, from left, are: Brigadier General Marshall B. Brad Webb, Assistant Commanding General, Joint Special Operations Command; Deputy National Security Advisor Denis McDonough; Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton; and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates. Standing, from left, are: Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; National Security Advisor Tom Donilon; Chief of Staff Bill Daley; Tony Binken, National Security Advisor to the Vice President; Audrey Tomason Director for Counterterrorism; John Brennan, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism; and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. Please note: a classified document seen in this photograph has been obscured. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
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President Barack Obama talks with members of the national security team at the conclusion of one in a series of meetings discussing the mission against Osama bin Laden, in the Situation Room of the White House, May 1, 2011. Gen. James Cartwright, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is seen on the screen. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
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President Barack Obama listens during one in a series of meetings discussing the mission against Osama bin Laden, in the Situation Room of the White House, May 1, 2011. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
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President Barack Obama makes a point during one in a series of meetings in the Situation Room of the White House discussing the mission against Osama bin Laden, May 1, 2011. National Security Advisor Tom Donilon is pictured at right. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
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President Barack Obama edits his remarks in the Oval Office prior to making a televised statement detailing the mission against Osama bin Laden, May 1, 2011. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
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Senior administration officials listen as President Barack Obama delivers a statement in the East Room of the White House on the mission against Osama bin Laden, May 1, 2011. Seated, from left, are: James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence; National Security Advisor Tom Donilon; CIA Director Leon Panetta; Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton; and Vice President Joe Biden. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
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President Barack Obama delivers a statement in the East Room of the White House on the mission against Osama bin Laden, May 1, 2011. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
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President Barack Obama shakes hands with Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in the Green Room of the White House following his statement detailing the mission against Osama bin Laden, May 1, 2011. CIA Director Leon Panetta and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton are pictured at left. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
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Supposedly taken at the time OBL was killed.
(http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/02/5680724572_d4696d593d_b.jpg)
Caption anyone?
Big Up!
Biden thinking to himself: stay awake, stay awake, STAY AWAKE!!!!
(for those who dont know why i said that, yes biden was caught sleeping during one of obama's speech)
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So the most important woman in the room has to look so distraught?? ??? ??? :D :D
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Supposedly taken at the time OBL was killed.
(http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/02/5680724572_d4696d593d_b.jpg)
Caption anyone?
Big Up!
All jokes aside. I wonder if they were actually looking at the body of Bin Laden being disposed of hence Hills facial expression. Even the guy and woman at the back straining to see the screen. The Commander on the laptop ent even care to look. Maybe, been dere done that, have the Tshirt already!!
I want to know who were the other 4 that was killed. If it was family members of Bin's guards? Heard on CNN that a woman was used as a shield and was killed.
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Supposedly taken at the time OBL was killed.
(http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/02/5680724572_d4696d593d_b.jpg)
Caption anyone?
Big Up!
shorty in de back cyah see a ting. someone give she a chair.
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So Wey The $25 Mil. Reward ?
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So Wey The $25 Mil. Reward ?
who they going to give it too?
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So Wey The $25 Mil. Reward ?
who they going to give it to?
The courier
In fact, that sound like the title for the next action movie franchise... From the people who brought you the transporter....
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:rotfl: :rotfl:
edit: i now remember the courier get kill, so who next in line?
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:rotfl: :rotfl:
edit: i now remember the courier get kill, so who next in line?
Ok, ok!
From the producers of "The Blimp" and the makers of "Coastal Surveillance Radar" a new suspense thriller... Reshmi!
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"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"
Martin Luther King, Jr
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Meh friggin padnah call me, and ask if ah watching the news. He say they kill Obama, ah say WHAA!!! then he say yeah Bin Laden dead. Ah cuss he ass.
Tell the wife the same way I got the news, she almost pass out before I could finish the story.
:rotfl: It's funny you said that cause I was in a resturant and they had a Karaoke dj who came on and said Osama's dead and I coulda swear de man say Obama dread....I get goose bumps, cold sweat, heart stop beating fuh a minute yes. Den somebody say Bin Laden I say Orrrr and went back tuh meh Heineken :beermug:
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those pics were funny as hell. i personally glad d man dead. but i also believe, his followers will retaliate :-\
Girl, good for all the folks who want to wax philosophical on dis but I glad too.....is because ah dis character I have to take off mih shoes, slippers, belt, jacket/sweater in de airport, ah had to throw way bottles of water and juice cuz ah cyar take it on the plane, ah have to check een 3 hours in advance, take mih laptop out the case, have woman feeling me up in the blasted airport bout dey checking for weapons.....
Not to mention is because ah he and he bull shit, innocent law abiding Muslim people get profiled all over de place and/or people who just have Muslim/Arab sounding names get profile all over the place.........steups!!! Good riddance to bad rubbish!!!
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From Anderson Cooper 360.com
(CNN) -- Osama bin Laden's death marked the end of an era for U.S. investigators, who searched remote villages and mountain caves in a far-reaching manhunt for the al Qaeda leader.
Their search, which lasted more than a decade, ended early Monday in Pakistan (Sunday night in the U.S.), when a small U.S. team raided a heavily guarded hideout in Pakistan and killed him.
The key break in the case came in August, when senior Obama administration officials say U.S. intelligence homed in on a $1 million compound in an affluent area north of Islamabad where one of bin Laden's couriers lived.
But the trail that eventually led the United States to bin Laden began years ago, the officials said.
After years of thwarted searches and dead ends, finding the elusive bin Laden had become "America's most vexing intelligence problem," one senior Obama administration official told reporters in a background briefing in Washington early Monday.
A new lead emerged when post-9/11 detainees gave investigators a glimpse into the al Qaeda chief's inner circle, the official said. During questioning, detainees repeatedly mentioned the nickname of a man they said was one of the few couriers bin Laden trusted.
That was the beginning of what President Barack Obama's top counterterrorism adviser described as a painstaking process.
"From the nickname, we tried to find out his real name," a senior U.S. official familiar with the operation said. "It was classic espionage and intel work."
Investigators knew the courier -- a protege of 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed -- was "important," because a number of detainees held out on providing information about him, the senior U.S. official said.
When interrogators pushed Mohammed on the courier's identity, he "lied to protect his protege," the official said. "We knew he was lying, because we already knew (the courier) was a KSM protege," the official said. In fact, other detainees indicated that the courier could have been working for bin Laden, the official added.
While Mohammed held back on information, that in itself made intelligence personnel more interested in the courier because they knew Mohammed was lying, the official said.
U.S. intelligence uncovered the courier's identity four years ago "from a different part of the world," the senior U.S. official said. He declined to say where.
It took two more years to identify where the courier and his brother operated in Pakistan.
Then, "extensive operational security" kept investigators from pinpointing where they lived, the senior administration official said.
"The fact that they were being so careful reinforced our belief that we were on the right track," the official said.
Spotting the courier on a street in Pakistan gave them an important clue, the senior U.S. official familiar with the operation said.
"We couldn't trail him, so we had to set up an elaborate surveillance effort ... That finally tracked him back to that compound," the senior U.S. official said.
In August 2010, officials said, U.S. intelligence drilled down to the home where the two brothers lived with their families, located in Abbottabad, Pakistan -- about 35 miles north of Islamabad.
"When we saw the compound where the brothers lived, we were shocked by what we saw -- an extraordinarily unique compound," the senior administration official said. "The compound sits on a large plot of land in an area that was relatively secluded when it was built. It is roughly eight times larger than the other homes in the area."
The senior Obama administration official said several things about the compound immediately stood out: Residents burned their trash rather than leaving it out for collection, there was no telephone or internet service and the three-story main structure had few windows facing outside. In addition, 12- to 18-foot walls topped with barbed wire surrounded the compound.
Intelligence analysts concluded the compound was "custom-built to hide someone of significance," the official said, and they noted that the courier and his brother had no discernible source of wealth to live at such a property.
"Everything we saw ... was perfectly consistent with what our experts expected bin Laden's hideout to look like," the official said.
As more details emerged, CIA Director Leon Panetta "began to hammer folks very hard" about who lived inside, the senior U.S. official with knowledge of the operation said.
"They counted people and told Panetta who was sleeping where," the official said. Intelligence soon revealed that a third family lived at the compound, the senior administration official said, "one whose size and whose makeup matched the bin Laden family members that we believed most likely to be with Osama bin Laden."
Even after analysts used multiple methods to analyze "every angle" of the information, "no other candidate fit the bill as well as bin Laden did," the official said.
U.S. officials did not release the courier's identity or specify how they found the home. A senior Pakistani intelligence official mentioned electronic and phone tracking, and said the U.S. intelligence on bin Laden's whereabouts was primarily based on Pakistani information passed along to the Americans.
Following bin Laden's couriers was "the only way" authorities ever could have tracked down the al Qaeda leader, CNN National Security Analyst Peter Bergen said.
"He was in a Catch-22. He had to communicate a little bit, and the only way he could do that without electronic communication, which could be intercepted, was through couriers," Bergen said.
Senior administration officials said the CIA informed Obama in September that assessments indicated bin Laden could be in a compound in Pakistan. By mid-February, the intelligence was considered strong enough to begin considering action pledged by Obama when bin Laden's whereabouts had been determined.
To discuss that intelligence and develop a plan, Obama chaired five National Security Council meetings from mid-March until late April, with the last two on April 19 and April 28 -- last Thursday.
The next day, Obama gave the order for the mission, officials said.
Even so, officials were not certain they would find bin Laden, said John Brennan, Obama's top counterterrorism adviser.
"There was nothing that confirmed bin Laden was at that compound," he said, noting that Obama's decision to act after weighing the evidence was one of the "gutsiest calls of any president in memory."
In fact, the intelligence community never laid its collective eyes on bin Laden in or around the compound before the raid, according to a U.S. official with knowledge of the intelligence build-up.
In his remarks Monday, Brennan referred to the intelligence as "circumstantially" pointing to bin Laden being in the compound. "I think what this operation demonstrates is that there are some very, very good people who have been following bin Laden for many, many years. They have been very persistent," Brennan said.
"They have pulled on every thread. And as a result of that diligence and their analytic capabilities, they were able to track this and continue to build a body of evidence that suggested, circumstantially, that bin Laden was at that compound."
At 8:20 a.m. ET Friday, before leaving on a trip to tour tornado devastation in Alabama, Obama made the decision to undertake the operation, a senior administration official said.
Late Sunday night in a White House address to the American people, Obama described the daring raid by a small U.S. team that killed bin Laden.
One U.S. government official told CNN the operation that killed the founder and leader of al Qaeda was designed to do just that, not to take him alive. But another senior U.S. official told CNN the operation included instructions to arrest bin Laden alive if he had surrendered -- however, no one involved expected that he would surrender.
Authorities have not determined how long the three-story home has been bin Laden's hideaway. "The compound had been in existence for roughly five years, but we don't know how long bin Laden lived there," a senior administration official said at the Monday.
But they were unequivocal in their declarations of his death.
On the web page containing the FBI's most-wanted list, a clear message was spelled out in bold letters beneath bin Laden's picture: "Deceased."
"Decapitating the head of the snake ... will have important reverberations throughout the area and the al Qaeda network in that area. This is something that we've been after for 15 years," Brennan said.
In an e-mail to CIA staff Monday, Panetta praised the "highly complex, innovative and forward-leaning clandestine operations" that he said led them to bin Laden.
"We have rid the world of the most infamous terrorist of our time," he wrote.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/02/bin.laden.hunt/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/02/bin.laden.hunt/index.html)
That part in bold must be making all them right wingers and dey friends over at Faux News foam at the mouth......take dat in all yuh pwefen!!!!
GO BARRY!!!!
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"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"
Martin Luther King, Jr
Pecan you kicksing oui. It is more than rejoicing, it is a sense of relief too. This man had the US on pins and needles and indeed the rest of the world for such a long time. Long travel lines, decreased liberties, big expenses..I for one glad de f**ker dead....
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Ah couldn't wait for Jon Stewart's take on this event....
http://www.thedailyshow.com/ (http://www.thedailyshow.com/)
And Stephen Cobert......
http://www.colbertnation.com/home (http://www.colbertnation.com/home)
p.s. ah finally master embedding Youtube videos but ah eh know how to embed these... :-\
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Girl, good for all the folks who want to wax philosophical on dis but I glad too.....is because ah dis character I have to take off mih shoes, slippers, belt, jacket/sweater in de airport, ah had to throw way bottles of water and juice cuz ah cyar take it on the plane, ah have to check een 3 hours in advance, take mih laptop out the case, have woman feeling me up in the blasted airport bout dey checking for weapons.....
Not to mention is because ah he and he bull shit, innocent law abiding Muslim people get profiled all over de place and/or people who just have Muslim/Arab sounding names get profile all over the place.........steups!!! Good riddance to bad rubbish!!!
Can we really say that all those changes were caused by Bin Laden or our reaction to Bin Laden? I can't say for certain that the contraction of all those liberties (specifically the profiling, wiretapping and homeland security related developments - the airport stuff, with the exception of pat-downs, really is not such a major imposition if you think it will save lives) were the only way, or the best way to react to the 9/11 and attacks. And I not even considering the fact that the general feeling of fear after 9/11 caused the majority of the country to support/accept/ignore the incursion into Iraq.
Pecan you kicksing oui. It is more than rejoicing, it is a sense of relief too. This man had the US on pins and needles and indeed the rest of the world for such a long time. Long travel lines, decreased liberties, big expenses..I for one glad de f**ker dead....
Again the choice was made to go in that direction. We had choices to make after 9/11 and although it would have been difficult to be more rational and considered in our response, Bin Laden and Al Qaeda would not have left such a huge footprint.
I understand the sense of relief and I not begrudging anybody who happy for the conclusion to this saga, especially the families of victims. I myself kinda ambivalent. I ent shedding no tears for him but I also don't feel the pervasive sense of joy. I am glad to know that it was a well executed operation with no collateral damage but overall, when I stand back from it and observe the general reaction, like the calls to see pictures, kinda macabre.
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"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"
Martin Luther King, Jr
Pecan you kicksing oui. It is more than rejoicing, it is a sense of relief too. This man had the US on pins and needles and indeed the rest of the world for such a long time. Long travel lines, decreased liberties, big expenses..I for one glad de f**ker dead....
dont get me wrong, I happy he no longer around, as you said a sense of relief.
I like what DeSowa said "I too would not celebrate and rejoice, especially in public, the death, especially killing of another human bing."
I also like what Martin Luther Jr said (see my last post)
The world should be relieved that Osama gone, but Al Qaeda eh done yet. It still have them out there plotting and scheming.
One might argue the jubilation is no different that the jubilation displayed by anti-west factions anytime an attack was made against the West.
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Exactly, they celebrate as they see us as mortal enemies, we celebrate as we gain a victory...don't you celebrate when T&t wins a game? that is battle too.
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I served in Operation Anaconda so I was there in the early...
I served and left the Middle East with a 9mm slug in my back, face opened, knee busted, ankle broken, my men dead and some men leaving body parts in the middle east. When a nation called upon us to take down enemy strong holds, we stood up. My men and I left Dushanbe on a fall night and ended up in Kabul, we would spend six years fighting terrorism and terror cells in the Mountains of Afghanistan. We destroyed OBL's terror training sites, his schools, we treated young girls with Std's in their throat, men severely beaten for questioning tribal leaders, sacrificial beheadings and some of OBL supply routes. OBL was the exemplification of Evil and how religion can be distorted. As I sit here and write this, I can hear the cannons at Ft. McNair resounding from their salute, to honor the fallen. When evil men arise, so will the US Military. My fellow NY'can took piece of the WTC and buried it in AFG, for his cousin who died as a FF on 9/11. We never forgot...
I praise President Obama and his National Security team for putting this snake to rest. When I heard the news a few service men and I headed to a bar on 8th Street, some celebrated but others remembered what it took to get here. I celebrated, because we may have lost him earlier, but we found the snake and killed him. Thank you Armed Forces.
"... Hooah"
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I served in Operation Anaconda so I was there in the early...
I served and left the Middle East with a 9mm slug in my back, face opened, knee busted, ankle broken, my men dead and some men leaving body parts in the middle east. When a nation called upon us to take down enemy strong holds, we stood up. My men and I left Dushanbe on a fall night and ended up in Kabul, we would spend six years fighting terrorism and terror cells in the Mountains of Afghanistan. We destroyed OBL's terror training sites, his schools, we treated young girls with Std's in their throat, men severely beaten for questioning tribal leaders, sacrificial beheadings and some of OBL supply routes. OSB was the exemplification of Evil and how religion can be distorted. As I sit here and write this, I can hear the cannons at Ft. McNair resounding from their salute, to honor the fallen. When evil men arise, so will the US Military.
I praise President Obama and his National Security team for putting this snake to rest. When I heard the news a few service men and I headed to a bar on 8th Street, some celebrated but others remembered what it took to get here. I celebrated, because we may have lost him in Tora Bora, but we found the snake and killed him. Thank you Armed Forces.
"Climb to Glory... Hooah"
:beermug:
it is easy to sit in the comforts of our homes and criticize the war on terror.
Thanks to all the men and women who put their life at risk.
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I still prefer Dos Equis
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"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"
Martin Luther King, Jr
Just FYI
MLK never said that
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I still prefer Dos Equis
I see what you did there ;)
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"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"
Martin Luther King, Jr
Just FYI
MLK never said that
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/05/anatomy-of-a-fake-quotation/238257/
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What is love? Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me, no more.
-Martin Luther King Jr.
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What is love? Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me, no more.
-Martin Luther King Jr.
:D
would be a hell of a ting to see Martin and Malcolm doin de one-sided head nod to that beat
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"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"
Martin Luther King, Jr
Just FYI
MLK never said that
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/05/anatomy-of-a-fake-quotation/238257/
thanks .. I did check it before I posted but obviously did not dig deep enough...
I'll spread the word. But I still like the quote though.
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Love that GIF
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I served in Operation Anaconda so I was there in the early...
I served and left the Middle East with a 9mm slug in my back, face opened, knee busted, ankle broken, my men dead and some men leaving body parts in the middle east. When a nation called upon us to take down enemy strong holds, we stood up. My men and I left Dushanbe on a fall night and ended up in Kabul, we would spend six years fighting terrorism and terror cells in the Mountains of Afghanistan. We destroyed OBL's terror training sites, his schools, we treated young girls with Std's in their throat, men severely beaten for questioning tribal leaders, sacrificial beheadings and some of OBL supply routes. OSB was the exemplification of Evil and how religion can be distorted. As I sit here and write this, I can hear the cannons at Ft. McNair resounding from their salute, to honor the fallen. When evil men arise, so will the US Military.
I praise President Obama and his National Security team for putting this snake to rest. When I heard the news a few service men and I headed to a bar on 8th Street, some celebrated but others remembered what it took to get here. I celebrated, because we may have lost him in Tora Bora, but we found the snake and killed him. Thank you Armed Forces.
"Climb to Glory... Hooah"
Daft you real larger dan life fella... you like ah Trini Jason Bourne (true talk, yuh does fly spaceship on de side nuh?) lol
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"
Martin Luther King, Jr
I like dis one even better... Ive never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure. Mark Twain.
All de sensitive types who feeling bad at de celebrations could all join hands arung ah campfire, twist each other's nipples and sing Kumbayah fuh all I care.
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Pakistan criticizes US raid on bin Laden
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ABBOTTABAD, Pakistan Pakistan criticized the American raid that killed Osama bin Laden as an "unauthorized unilateral action," laying bare the strains the operation has put on an already rocky alliance.
U.S. legislators along with the leaders of Britain and France questioned how the Pakistani government could not have known the al-Qaida leader was living in a garrison town less than a two-hour drive from the capital and had apparently lived there for years.
"I find it hard to believe that the presence of a person or individual such as bin Laden in a large compound in a relatively small town ... could go completely unnoticed," French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe told reporters in Paris.
British Prime Minister David Cameron also demanded that Pakistani leaders explain how bin Laden had lived undetected in Abbottabad. But in a nod to the complexities of dealing with a nuclear-armed, unstable country that is crucial to success in the war in Afghanistan, Cameron said having "a massive row" with Islamabad over the issue would not be in Britain's interest.
White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters Tuesday that the U.S. is committed to cooperating with Pakistan.
"We don't know who if anybody in the government was aware that bin Laden or a high-value target was living in the compound. It's logical to assume he had a supporting network. What constituted that network remains to be seen," Carney said.
"It's a big country and a big government and we have to be very focused and careful about how we do this because it is an important relationship."
A day after U.S. commandos killed the al-Qaida leader following a 10-year manhunt, new details emerged Tuesday from Pakistan's powerful intelligence agency and bin Laden's neighbors in Abbottabad.
Residents said they sensed something was odd about the walled three-story house, even though bin Laden and his family rarely ventured outside and most neighbors were not aware that foreigners were living there.
"That house was obviously a suspicious one," said Jahangir Khan, who was buying a newspaper in Abbottabad. "Either it was a complete failure of our intelligence agencies or they were involved in this affair."
Neighbors said two men would routinely emerge from the compound to run errands or occasionally attend a neighborhood gathering, such as a funeral. Both men were tall, fair skinned and bearded.
"People were skeptical in this neighborhood about this place and these guys," said Mashood Khan, a 45-year-old farmer. "They used to gossip, say they were smugglers or drug dealers. People would complain that even with such a big house they didn't invite the poor or distribute charity."
U.S. officials have suggested Pakistani officials may have known where bin Laden was living and members of Congress have seized on those suspicions to call for the U.S. to consider cutting billions of aid to Pakistan if it turns out to be true.
Western officials have long regarded Pakistani security forces with suspicion, especially when it comes to links with militants fighting in Afghanistan. Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton publicly said she suspected that some members of Pakistan's government knew where bin Laden was hiding.
However, within Pakistan criticism has been focused on the U.S. breaching the country's sovereignty. The Obama administration has said it did not inform the Pakistanis in advance of the operation against bin Laden, for fear they would tip off the targets.
A strongly worded Pakistani government statement warned the U.S. not to launch similar operations in the future. It rejected suggestions that officials knew where bin Laden was.
Still, there were other revelations that pointed to prior knowledge that the compound was linked to al-Qaida.
Pakistani intelligence agencies hunting for a top al-Qaida operative raided the house in 2003, according to a senior officer, speaking on condition of anonymity in line with the spy agency's policy.
The house was just being built at the time of the raid by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency, and Abu Faraj al-Libi, al-Qaida's No. 3, was not there, said the officer.
U.S. officials have said al-Libi once lived in the house and that information from him played a role in tracking the al-Qaida chief down. Al-Libi was arrested by Pakistani police after a shootout in 2005 and he was later handed over to U.S. authorities.
The Pakistani officer said he didn't know why bin Laden would choose a house that already had been compromised.
He also insisted the ISI would have captured bin Laden if it had known he was there, and pushed back at international criticism of the agency.
"Look at our track record given the issues we have faced, the lack of funds. We have killed or captured hundreds" of extremists), said the officer. "All of a sudden one failure makes us incompetent and 10 years of effort is overlooked."
Al-Qaida has been responsible for score of bloody attacks inside Pakistan, so on the face of it would seem strange for Islamabad to be sheltering bin Laden. Critics of Pakistan say that by keeping him on the run, Islamabad was ensuring that U.S. aid and weapons to the country kept flowing.
The Pakistani government said that since 2009 the ISI has shared information about the compound with the CIA and other Western intelligence agencies, and that intelligence indicating foreigners were in the Abbottabad area continued until mid-April.
In an essay published Tuesday by The Washington Post, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari denied suggestions his country's security forces may have sheltered bin Laden, and said their cooperation with the United States helped pinpoint him.
The raid followed months of deteriorating relations between the CIA and Pakistan's intelligence service. Those strains came to a head in late January after a CIA contractor shot and killed two Pakistanis in what Washington said was self-defense.
In a statement, the Pakistani government said "this event of unauthorized unilateral action cannot be taken as a rule."
"The government of Pakistan further affirms that such an event shall not serve as a future precedent for any state, including the U.S.," it said, calling such actions a "threat to international peace and security."
The statement may be partly motivated by domestic concerns. The government and army has come under criticism following the raid by those who have accused the government of allowing Washington to violate the country's sovereignty. Islamabad has also been angered at the suspicions it had been sheltering bin Laden.
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Associated Press writers Chris Brummitt, Munir Ahmed and Asif Shahzad contributed to this report from Islamabad.
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Pakistan: "how dare you come into our backyard and kill a wanted terrorist whom we knew nothing about even though he has been living right under out noses and we have valliantly been searching for all these years??"
US: "shit happens, Mohammed"
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All de sensitive types who feeling bad at de celebrations could all join hands arung ah campfire, twist each other's nipples and sing Kumbayah fuh all I care.
purple nurples?
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Pakistan only angry now that Uncle Sam wont be sending them any more of your tax dollars to there coffers..
EZ money...dem fellas make Enron, Lehman Brothers and Madoff look like small pickings.
Talk about getting hustled
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Well until this Bin Laden take down mih didn't even know that they held Bin Laden's #2 and ah next high ranking one in Pakistan too.....hhhhhhmmmmm mih thinks Pakistan have some explaining to do....
Bakes, we on de same page on this one......good riddance!!!
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Pakistan only angry now that Uncle Sam wont be sending them any more of your tax dollars to there coffers..
EZ money...dem fellas make Enron, Lehman Brothers and Madoff look like small pickings.
Talk about getting hustled
yuh clueless.
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Did he potentially join the crew...? :rotfl:
Will OBL be releasing posthumous AQ messages 10 years from now, that is relevant to that present time, in the future...?
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I also heard Canadian Intelligence assisted too. They were used to direct traffic in down down Islamabad.
:rotfl:
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ah cyah wait to see the taiwanese graphic arts version
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ah cyah wait to see the taiwanese graphic arts version
It come out already
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Top Secret Stealth Helicopter Program Revealed in Osama Bin Laden Raid: Experts
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Before an elite team of U.S. Navy SEALs executed a daring raid that took down Osama bin Laden, the commandos were able to silently sneak up on their elusive target thanks to what aviation analysts said were top secret, never-before-seen stealth-modified helicopters.
In the course of the operation that cost the al Qaeda leader his life, one of the two Blackhawk helicopters that carried the SEALs into bin Laden's Pakistani compound grazed one of the compound's wall and was forced to make a hard landing. With the chopper inoperable, at the end of the mission the SEALs destroyed it with explosives.
But photos of what survived the explosion -- the tail section of the craft with curious modifications -- has sent military analysts buzzing about a stealth helicopter program that was only rumored to exist. From a modified tail boom to a noise reducing covering on the rear rotors and a special high-tech material similar to that used in stealth fighters, former Department of Defense official and vice president of the Lexington Institute Dan Goure said the bird is like nothing he's ever seen before.
"This is a first," he said. "You wouldn't know that it was coming right at you. And that's what's important, because these are coming in fast and low, and if they aren't sounding like they're coming right at you, you might not even react until it's too late... That was clearly part of the success."
In addition to the noise-reducing modifications, a former special operations aviator told The Army Times the general shape of what was left of the craft -- the harsh angles and flat surfaces more common to stealth jets -- was further evidence it was a modified variant of the Blackhawk.
A senior Pentagon official told ABC News the Defense Department would "absolutely not" comment on anything relating to the destroyed bird.
Neighbors of bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan, told ABC News they didn't hear the helicopters the night of the Sunday raid until they were directly overhead. The rotor covering, along with a special rotor design, suppressed the choppers noise while inbound, Bill Sweetman, editor and chief of Defense Technology International, said.
"Helicopters make a very distinctive percussive rotor sound which is caused by their rotor blades and if you can blend that down, of course that makes a noise that is much less likely to be heard and much more likely to blend into any background noise that there is," Sweetman said.
The U.S. has attempted to use stealth helicopters before. In the mid-90s, the Army developed several prototypes of the Comanche helicopter, a reconnaissance helicopter that was at the time a revolutionary step in stealth technology. But in 2004 the Department of Defense scrapped the program and promised to used technology developed for the Comanche on other crafts.
Since, the government has been working to silence the Army's Blackhawk helicopters but an official program for the stealth choppers was never publicized. The wreckage, Sweetman said, is the first the public has ever seen of an operational stealth-modified helicopter.
Goure said he believes the stealthy Blackhawks have been in use for years without the public's knowledge.
"We probably have been running hundreds of missions with these helicopters over the last half dozen years, and the fact is, they've all been successful -- or at least the helicopters have all come back," he said.
But now that one went down and photographs emerged of large sections being taken from the crash site under a tarp, former White House counterterrorism advisor and ABC News consultant Richard Clarke said U.S. officials may have reason to worry about where those parts end up.
"There are probably people in the Pentagon tonight who are very concerned that pieces of the helicopter may be, even now, on their way to China, because we know that China is trying to make stealth aircraft," he said. The Chinese military is known to have a close relationship with the Pakistani military.
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That's the thing to me that was most remarkable in that mission, I've always wondered what type of helicopter they used. Imagine 2 helicopters came in above the compound with over 2 dozen navy seals and hardly a sound could be heard and in Trini we have a blimp that can be heard from Penal when it's in POS. ;D
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the actual operation get an A- but de followup is a C- at best. end of de day dey shoot an unarmed man. why pretend it was a capture mission? big fancy stealth helicopter but dey eh have tazer and ducttape for bin laden if dey plan to keep him alive? now dey talking like bin laden make a move so and dey had to shoot him. pleaze. ::)
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when the movie coming out?
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when the movie coming out?
Bollywood makin one as we type
Ah feel in de final scene dey go have Osama and the Seals doin ah bhangra dance number around de helicopters
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when the movie coming out?
Bollywood makin one as we type
Ah feel in de final scene dey go have Osama and the Seals doin ah bhangra dance number around de helicopters
look dey cast de prez already ...
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when the movie coming out?
Bollywood makin one as we type
Ah feel in de final scene dey go have Osama and the Seals doin ah bhangra dance number around de helicopters
look dey cast de prez already ...
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nah slap ah beard on he he could pass fuh osama not obama
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osama? yuh mean musafa
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osama? yuh mean musafa
Mufasa... even.
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osama? yuh mean musafa
Mufasa... even.
True, he too.
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the debris must be on the slow boat to China by now. ah sure they pay top dollar to have children comb through the grass and pick up the pieces.
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apparently de rules of engagement for de SEALs say to assume that bin laden is wearing a suicide vest and then they are justified in taking him out. so de only way he could surrender is if he was bareback. but den he could have a suicide belt. so he had do be butt naked to surrender. dat is de rules of engagement.
*slow hand clap*
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the actual operation get an A- but de followup is a C- at best. end of de day dey shoot an unarmed man. why pretend it was a capture mission? big fancy stealth helicopter but dey eh have tazer and ducttape for bin laden if dey plan to keep him alive? now dey talking like bin laden make a move so and dey had to shoot him. pleaze. ::)
We really need ah sarcasm button, cause you cyah be serious. With that :bs:
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apparently de rules of engagement for de SEALs say to assume that bin laden is wearing a suicide vest and then they are justified in taking him out. so de only way he could surrender is if he was bareback. but den he could have a suicide belt. so he had do be butt naked to surrender. dat is de rules of engagement.
*slow hand clap*
Better than having to share 12 vestal virgins with him... but I sure yuh eh done with yuh carping and nitpicking yet.
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his son Hamza bin Laden killed in the raid by the us navy seals . more photos will be leaked day by day. Photo from Reuters
WARNING: GRAPHIC PHOTOGRAPHS OF DEATH AND INJURY BELOW
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Video of him growing up as a terrorist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE4odH4Z-Yo&feature=share
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apparently de rules of engagement for de SEALs say to assume that bin laden is wearing a suicide vest and then they are justified in taking him out. so de only way he could surrender is if he was bareback. but den he could have a suicide belt. so he had do be butt naked to surrender. dat is de rules of engagement.
*slow hand clap*
Better than having to share 12 vestal virgins with him... but I sure yuh eh done with yuh carping and nitpicking yet.
geez, is only 12 now and dey vestal :o
the actual operation get an A- but de followup is a C- at best. end of de day dey shoot an unarmed man. why pretend it was a capture mission? big fancy stealth helicopter but dey eh have tazer and ducttape for bin laden if dey plan to keep him alive? now dey talking like bin laden make a move so and dey had to shoot him. pleaze. ::)
We really need ah sarcasm button, cause you cyah be serious. With that :bs:
C-
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geez, is only 12 now and dey vestal :o
Recession hit de afterlife too.
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Al-Awlaki targeted by U.S. military drone in YemenFrom Barbara Starr, CNN Pentagon Correspondent
May 6, 2011 7:55 p.m. EDT
Officials say a U.S. airstrike targeting Anwar al-Awlaki appears to have killed two al Qaeda operatives.STORY HIGHLIGHTS
NEW: The missile strike didn't appear to have killed Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S. official says
The U.S. military drone fired in an area the radical cleric has frequented, adds the official
Monday's raid on bin Laden's Pakistan compound is not linked to the strike, the official says
Two al Qaeda operatives affiliated with al-Awlaki die, a U.S. defense official says
(CNN) -- A U.S. military drone fired a missile within the last 48 hours in Yemen aimed at the U.S.-born radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, but the strike did not appear to have killed him, a U.S. official told CNN on Friday.
The missile was fired at an area in southern Yemen that al-Awlaki is known to have frequented, the official said.
The official said the targeting information was not the result of information gathered from the seizure Monday of materials from Osama bin Laden's compound in Pakistan.
A U.S. defense official confirmed that the drone was under the control of the American military -- not the CIA.
The defense official said the strike appears to have killed two al Qaeda operatives affiliated with al-Awlaki.
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US turning up the heat.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/xlOIy6QEbes&
WIN! :beermug:
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US turning up the heat.
If the "host" nations either complicit or impotent to do anything about the threats in their midsts then yeah, kinda hard to argue against America protecting its interests from far. Sovereignty shouldn't just be flagrantly violated at will... but at the same time this is war, unconventional as it is, and you have these criminals in your country waging war from afar.
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Candid videos show rare view of unkempt bin Laden
WASHINGTON, Sat May 07, 05:39 PM
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In this undated image taken from video provided by the U.S. Department of Defense, a man who the American government says...More
From a shabby, makeshift office, he ran a global terrorist empire. The world's most wanted man watched newscasts of himself from a tiny television perched atop a rickety old desk cluttered with wires.
For years, the world only saw Osama bin Laden in the rare propaganda videos that trickled out, the ones portraying him as a charismatic religious figure unfazed by being the target of worldwide manhunt.
On Saturday, the U.S. released a handful of videos, selected to show bin Laden in a much more candid, unflattering light. In the short clips, bin Laden appears hunched and tired, seated on the floor, watching television wrapped in a wool blanket and wearing a knit cap. Outtakes of his propaganda tapes show that they were heavily scripted affairs. He dyed and trimmed his beard for the cameras, then shot and reshot his remarks until the timing and lighting were just right.
The videos were among the evidence seized by Navy SEALs after a pre-dawn raid Monday that killed bin Laden in his walled Pakistani compound. The movies, along with computer disks, thumb drives and handwritten notes, reveal that bin Laden was still actively involved in planning and directing al-Qaida's plots against the U.S., according to a senior U.S. intelligence official who briefed reporters Saturday and insisted his name not be used.
"The material found in the compound only further confirms how important it was to go after Bin Laden," said CIA director Leon Panetta in a statement Saturday. "Since 9/11, this is what the American people have expected of us. In this critical operation, we delivered."
The notes and computer material showed that bin Laden's compound was a command-and-control center for al-Qaida, where the terrorist mastermind stayed in contact with al-Qaida affiliates around the world through a network of couriers, the intelligence official said. Bin Laden was eager to strike American cities again and discussed ways to attack trains, officials said, though it appeared that plan never progressed beyond early discussions.
Officials said the clips shown to reporters were just part of the largest collection of senior terrorist materials ever collected. The evidence seized during the raid also includes phone numbers and documents that officials hope will help break the back of the organization behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
The videos showing "out-takes" - the miscues by bin-Laden that were destined for the cutting-room floor - were offered as further proof of bin Laden's death. President Barack Obama decided this week not to release photos of bin Laden's body, which were deemed too gruesome to reveal. The U.S. has said it confirmed bin Laden's death using DNA.
But by selecting unflattering clips of bin Laden, the U.S. is also working to shatter the image he worked so hard to craft.
"It showed that bin Laden was not the superhero he wanted his people to think," said Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee.
One video clearly shows the terror leader choosing and changing channels with a remote control, which he points at what appears to be a satellite cable box. U.S. officials have previously said there was a satellite dish for television reception but no Internet or phone lines ran to the house. Cellphones were prohibited on the compound.
It's unclear how many tapes were pulled out of the house, and U.S. officials say they're scouring the intelligence so quickly it has not even been catalogued and counted yet. But there may be a trove of recordings. According to the book "Growing Up bin Laden," by his first wife and fourth son, the terrorist leader nearly always kept a tape recorder nearby to take down his thoughts, plans and musings about politics and the world.
Among the material handed out was an al-Qaida propaganda video, apparently intended for public release, entitled "Message to the American People," likely filmed sometime last fall, the official said. Bin Laden has not released a video since 2007, and officials were sure why this one had not been released.
The official said the short taped message denigrated capitalism and included anti-American messages similar to his previous tapes, but he refused to say if it included a direct threat against the United States. The government released the video without sound because it did not want to disseminate a terrorist message.
Al-Qaida has confirmed the death of its founder, but did not announce a successor. Intelligence officials have taken that as an indication that the attack dealt a heavy blow dealt to the organization. The most likely successor, al-Qaida deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri, is not as charismatic as bin Laden and is not as popular in the group. Officials have said he is unlikely to galvanize followers as bin Laden had.
A task force headed by the CIA is working through the material, combing it round the clock to find clues to plots that might already be under way. The U.S. launched airstrikes in Pakistan and Yemen this week, but the U.S. official would not confirm whether the bin Laden intelligence has already led to attacks.
Arabic speakers from around the intelligence committee have been tapped to help review the intelligence. The team includes intelligence specialists from throughout the national security community, including code-breakers at the National Security Agency, satellite specialists from National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, and the FBI.
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this goes some ways to explaining how a convoy of US choppers could fly into pakistan, land a few hundred yards from an institution de media calling de "west point of pakistan", shoot up de place for 40 mins and fly out. must say, dis steal a bit of de prez's dramatic thunder as he wasn't so much de master as de puppet of a script written 9 years ago. orator, basketballer and now thespian. what next - DWTS?
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Osama bin Laden mission agreed in secret 10 years ago by US and Pakistan
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/09/osama-bin-laden-us-pakistan-deal)
US forces were given permission to conduct unilateral raid inside Pakistan if they knew where Bin Laden was hiding, officials say
The US and Pakistan struck a secret deal almost a decade ago permitting a US operation against Osama bin Laden on Pakistani soil similar to last week's raid that killed the al-Qaida leader, the Guardian has learned.
The deal was struck between the military leader General Pervez Musharraf and President George Bush after Bin Laden escaped US forces in the mountains of Tora Bora in late 2001, according to serving and retired Pakistani and US officials.
Under its terms, Pakistan would allow US forces to conduct a unilateral raid inside Pakistan in search of Bin Laden, his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and the al-Qaida No3. Afterwards, both sides agreed, Pakistan would vociferously protest the incursion.
"There was an agreement between Bush and Musharraf that if we knew where Osama was, we were going to come and get him," said a former senior US official with knowledge of counterterrorism operations. "The Pakistanis would put up a hue and cry, but they wouldn't stop us."
The deal puts a new complexion on the political storm triggered by Bin Laden's death in Abbottabad, 35 miles north of Islamabad, where a team of US navy Seals assaulted his safe house in the early hours of 2 May.
Pakistani officials have insisted they knew nothing of the raid, with military and civilian leaders issuing a strong rebuke to the US. If the US conducts another such assault, Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani warned parliament on Monday, "Pakistan reserves the right to retaliate with full force."
Days earlier, Musharraf, now running an opposition party from exile in London, emerged as one of the most vocal critics of the raid, terming it a "violation of the sovereignty of Pakistan".
But under the terms of the secret deal, while Pakistanis may not have been informed of the assault, they had agreed to it in principle.
A senior Pakistani official said it had been struck under Musharraf and renewed by the army during the "transition to democracy" a six-month period from February 2008 when Musharraf was still president but a civilian government had been elected.
Referring to the assault on Bin Laden's Abbottabad compound, the official added: "As far as our American friends are concerned, they have just implemented the agreement."
The former US official said the Pakistani protests of the past week were the "public face" of the deal. "We knew they would deny this stuff."
The agreement is consistent with Pakistan's unspoken policy towards CIA drone strikes in the tribal belt, which was revealed by the WikiLeaks US embassy cables last November. In August 2008, Gilani reportedly told a US official: "I don't care if they do it, as long as they get the right people. We'll protest in the National Assembly and then ignore it."
As drone strikes have escalated in the tribal belt over the past year, senior civilian and military officials issued pro forma denunciations even as it became clear the Pakistani military was co-operating with the covert programme.
The former US official said that impetus for the co-operation, much like the Bin Laden deal, was driven by the US. "It didn't come from Musharraf's desire. On the Predators, we made it very clear to them that if they weren't going to prosecute these targets, we were, and there was nothing they could do to stop us taking unilateral action.
"We told them, over and again: 'We'll stop the Predators if you take these targets out yourselves.'"
Despite several attempts to contact his London office, the Guardian has been unable to obtain comment from Musharraf.
Since Bin Laden's death, Pakistan has come under intense US scrutiny, including accusations that elements within Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence helped hide the al-Qaida leader.
On Sunday, President Barack Obama said Bin Laden must have had "some sort of support network" inside Pakistan.
"We don't know whether there might have been some people inside of government, outside of government, and that's something we have to investigate," Obama said.
Gilani has stood firmly by the ISI, describing it as a "national asset", and said claims that Pakistan was "in cahoots" with al-Qaida were "disingenuous".
"Allegations of complicity or incompetence are absurd," he said. "We didn't invite Osama bin Laden to Pakistan."
Gilani said the army had launched an investigation into how Bin Laden managed to hide inside Pakistan. Senior generals will give a briefing on the furore to parliament next Friday.
Gilani paid lip-service to the alliance with America and welcomed a forthcoming visit from the US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, but pointedly paid tribute to help from China, whom he described as "a source of inspiration for the people of Pakistan".
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steups. the FACT is they did NOT know of the raid....Pakistani West Point...lol
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Porn found in Osama bin Laden's compound
Among the materials US Navy SEALs recovered from Osama bin Laden's compound was pornography, according to a source familiar with the materials seized.
The material was sexually explicit, the source said.
The source would not discuss exactly where it was found, what it was, or if it is believed to be the al Qaeda leader's or belonging to someone else living in the compound, like the two couriers or bin Ladens son.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/13/porn-found-in-osama-bin-ladens-compound/
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Allyuh hear bout de new drink called the bin laden?
Two shots and ah splash of water
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f**king hypocrites, bad talking the decadent west and dey jocking to yankee porn. I hear is three nakid pics ah Barbara Bush dey find. De f**ker so bad too, yet he cyar make up he mind who he was supporeting in the cola wars...cases ah pepsi and coca cola..wtf?
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some more fallout from de manner in which de usa take out bin laden. dey piss off frenemy pakistan who share intel on terrorist targets and control a key supply line into afghanistan. madman ron paul seem to be de only one that complain about bin laden death saying that usa and pak should have worked together to arrest him. in de long run pak doh have any friends. let's see how much yankee "blood and treasure" dis worth.
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Osama bin Laden dead: angry Pakistan drops intelligence sharing with West
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8513920/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-angry-Pakistan-drops-intelligence-sharing-with-West.html)
Pakistan's intelligence services are refusing to share details of suspects or plots with their American counterparts in protest at the US operation to kill Osama bin Laden, raising the potential threat of attacks on Western cities.
By Rob Crilly, Islamabad
In the past, Pakistani agents have been credited with helping identify targets for drone strikes and providing data to the CIA on plans being hatched in its lawless tribal areas.
Now buffeted and embarrassed by being kept in the dark for months as the US closed in on the al-Qaeda leader's bolthole, little more than 30 miles from the Pakistani capital Islamabad, agents with the Inter-Services Intelligence directorate have begun to withhold crucial operational details about militants on its territory.
At the same time, new details have emerged about bin Laden's extensive support network inside Pakistan, reaching all the way to the sprawling port city of Karachi.
The revelations will heap more pressure on to an administration already accused of helping shelter the world's most wanted man.
The Sunday Telegraph has learned that the ISI, which prides itself on arresting a series of key terrorists including the 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, has now broken off relations with the Central Intelligence Agency.
"They are furious. They handed over telephone intercepts in 2009 that were crucial in leading to bin Laden's courier the key breakthrough in the hunt," said a source briefed on relations between the two countries.
"Then four months ago they were told there was nothing in it, it was what the Americans called a 'cold lead'. Since then they have been left out completely out of the loop."
Senior officials in the US have briefed journalists to say they stopped sharing information because they feared Islamist sympathisers within Pakistani security forces would tip-off bin Laden ruining the best lead they had ever had.
Lieutenant General Talat Masood, a military analyst, said the stand-off would raise the threat to American cities and to Nato-led troops from plots hatched in Pakistan's tribal regions, headquarters of al-Qaeda linked militant groups.
"There are implications for both the US and international forces in Afghanistan, so the Americans will be very interested in getting the relationship back on track," he said.
However, politicians in Pakistan are intent on making the US pay for an apparently unauthorised raid on its soil.
The past fortnight has been deeply embarrassing for Pakistan's previously admired military and intelligence apparatus.
The generals face tough questions over how the US was able to launch a raid on its territory without anyone noticing.
They must also explain how the world's most wanted man could live for at least five years right under their noses, less than a mile from the country's officer training academy in Abbottabad.
Last week, President Barack Obama said bin Laden had a "support network" within Pakistan and demanded to know whether government officials or military officers knew of his presence.
US suspicions of collusion have frozen relations between the two countries, which were already frosty following the arrest of CIA agent in Lahore earlier this year after he shot dead two men.
On Friday night, with intelligence officials already suspending intelligence sharing, Pakistan's parliament also called for a review of the country's relationship with the US.
During a 10-hour joint session held to debate the American raid, MPs demanded an independent investigation to replace a planned military inquiry.
And they also unanimously passed a resolution urging a ban on Nato transit convoys taking supplies from the port of Karachi to Afghanistan unless the US ends its controversial programme drone attacks.
Politicians who stayed late into the night said the head of the ISI admitted intelligence failures and said he was prepared to resign if he no longer had their support, an offer refused by the head of Army.
However, documents recently released by WikiLeaks will only deepen their embarrassment. Testimony from prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay describes elements of bin Laden's support network deep inside Pakistan, tasked with helping the fugitive evade justice, and also describe a meeting between the Taliban's one-eyed leader Mullah Omar and ISI agents.
Shortly before 9/11, bin Laden began his preparations to elude US reprisals and begin his life on the run.
Mohammed Ahmad Rabbani, "who had the full trust and confidence of al-Qaeda leadership" according to leaked detainee files, told interrogators that he ran a series of al-Qaeda safe houses in Karachi, the economic heart of Pakistan. About two months before airliners crashed into the World Trade Centre, he was ordered to procure supplies and construction materials in Karachi and send them to Afghanistan.
There they were used to extend an existing network of caves and tunnels at Tora Bora deep into the mountains that separate Afghanistan from Pakistan.
Bin Laden and his lieutenants disappeared into the caves in December 2001 the last known sighting before Navy Seals shot him dead two weeks ago - as US warplanes bombed the area.
Other detainees said bin Laden had lived there with three wives, 25 bodyguards and dozens more al-Qaeda operatives including his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri.
The documents also show further evidence of how ISI operatives liaised with and senior Taliban figures. In one example, Pakistani intelligence officers met Mullah Omar, the one-eyed head of the Afghan Taliban, along with other militia commanders in Quetta, south-western Pakistan.
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Make up yuh damn mind ribbit, one minute is a ten year agreement..dais why Pakistan pretending to be angry and did not know...now the assness above? steups.
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anyone read de seymour hersh article (http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden)?