Any camerars in the car park ?From the last incident that a child was killed, they installed camera all over, but that doesn't mean they working!
Facebook Poster: Funny enough I sent this post to my mother who actually knows the family! She spoke to the gentleman's brother-in-law this mornng who confirmed this crime to be authentic! They were treated at West Shore Hospital and the husband has extensive head trauma and is scheduled for an MRI today!
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I received this from 3 different people today. No I dont have the source, I don't know who the author is and I have not attached the names from the fwd list.
Just thought I would share, Movietown is a busy area and I find the victim was real brave to put up such a fight. It saved his life, but it also coulda go terribly wrong. mods I remember we have a crime and safety thread you could merge it there
Sent: Mon, 20 June, 2011 15:13:51
Subject: MOVIE TOWNE P.O.S. - NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE !!!
Dear Friends and Family,
In that fraction of a second as we both got off the phone and she turned towards her husband, she saw a very thin, young negro chap pointing a 38 calibre long nose at her husband's head. The criminal shouted "open your f****ing door or ah go shoot all yuh!"
Wow... so it DID happen?
Not sure what that towers idea supposed to do... they need to have more lighting, cameras and patrols. Working with police to have a weekend presence there for certain hours after dark might be a good idea too, if the manpower could be sourced.
If the only security presence they have currently is a guard booth near the entrance, then two more locations within the lot will help with surveilling other parts of the lot.
Once they are manned, that is.
In the US I see malls install temporary lookout towers in the parking lots at Christmas time but they don't look like anyone is in them. Here a couple years ago a security guard picking up cash was shot right near to one of the towers.
With all the money that MovieTowne makes, it's a shame on the management's part that it would take an incident like this for them to provide good security.
If the only security presence they have currently is a guard booth near the entrance, then two more locations within the lot will help with surveilling other parts of the lot.
Once they are manned, that is.
In the US I see malls install temporary lookout towers in the parking lots at Christmas time but they don't look like anyone is in them. Here a couple years ago a security guard picking up cash was shot right near to one of the towers.
With all the money that MovieTowne makes, it's a shame on the management's part that it would take an incident like this for them to provide good security.
Yeah but in this case surveillance wasn't the problem since security see the thing going down and didn't do nutten... not even raise an alarm or call police. Not saying extra surveillance is a waste, but clearly it's not much of a deterrence, especially if the guards not going to offer assistance... they might as well be cameras. At least with roving patrols there might be the assumption (on the part of the criminals) that they'll encounter 'interference', if not resistance.
I received this from 3 different people today. No I dont have the source, I don't know who the author is and I have not attached the names from the fwd list.
Just thought I would share, Movietown is a busy area and I find the victim was real brave to put up such a fight. It saved his life, but it also coulda go terribly wrong. mods I remember we have a crime and safety thread you could merge it there
Sent: Mon, 20 June, 2011 15:13:51
Subject: MOVIE TOWNE P.O.S. - NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE !!!
Dear Friends and Family,
In that fraction of a second as we both got off the phone and she turned towards her husband, she saw a very thin, young negro chap pointing a 38 calibre long nose at her husband's head. The criminal shouted "open your f****ing door or ah go shoot all yuh!"
This person really knows guns. Was it a police/soldier that got held up?
Are saying that security saw the attempted robbery going down? The email didn't say that.
When security saw the aftermath, they weren't helpful, that is true.
Chin said his senior security manager, who was on duty on Saturday night, did not report the incident and was subsequently relieved of his duty for his failure to do so.
"When I interrogated the senior manager about it he mentioned that the event did take place but that it was outside the perimeters of MovieTowne, meaning on the link road and he didn't feel it was necessary for him to come and bring that to my attention," he said.
Who is authorized to carry a gun in T&T? Or will permits make matters worse. Because I can't see regular folks taking this much longer. A good young fella go feel he need a gun to protect himself....bam trouble. If the police cyah protect the people then make it easy for people to arm dey self.
Who is authorized to carry a gun in T&T? Or will permits make matters worse. Because I can't see regular folks taking this much longer. A good young fella go feel he need a gun to protect himself....bam trouble. If the police cyah protect the people then make it easy for people to arm dey self.
Who is authorized to carry a gun in T&T? Or will permits make matters worse. Because I can't see regular folks taking this much longer. A good young fella go feel he need a gun to protect himself....bam trouble. If the police cyah protect the people then make it easy for people to arm dey self.
if that were to happen everyone would be walking around with a gun. trinidad will turn into a war zone.
the root of the problem is HOW are these guns coming into the country? you kill the root, you improve gun control within the country.
I disagree. i believe the opposite would happen, just look @ texas.Who is authorized to carry a gun in T&T? Or will permits make matters worse. Because I can't see regular folks taking this much longer. A good young fella go feel he need a gun to protect himself....bam trouble. If the police cyah protect the people then make it easy for people to arm dey self.
if that were to happen everyone would be walking around with a gun. trinidad will turn into a war zone.
the root of the problem is HOW are these guns coming into the country? you kill the root, you improve gun control within the country.
Who is authorized to carry a gun in T&T? Or will permits make matters worse. Because I can't see regular folks taking this much longer. A good young fella go feel he need a gun to protect himself....bam trouble. If the police cyah protect the people then make it easy for people to arm dey self.
Who is authorized to carry a gun in T&T? Or will permits make matters worse. Because I can't see regular folks taking this much longer. A good young fella go feel he need a gun to protect himself....bam trouble. If the police cyah protect the people then make it easy for people to arm dey self.
Folks doing this already, those I am aware of have done it legally, folks in the TT middle class who hard working, have families and have little or no trust in the protective services to protect them
Do you know the process to do this? I could use the info...
Who is authorized to carry a gun in T&T? Or will permits make matters worse. Because I can't see regular folks taking this much longer. A good young fella go feel he need a gun to protect himself....bam trouble. If the police cyah protect the people then make it easy for people to arm dey self.
if that were to happen everyone would be walking around with a gun. trinidad will turn into a war zone.
the root of the problem is HOW are these guns coming into the country? you kill the root, you improve gun control within the country.
Yeah but that is a lot harder than leveling the playing field.
Time for ppl to start shootin back.
Chin come off like ah real defensive tun tun there... "is she a gun expert??"
Anybody know what's the grounds for using a firearm in self defense? Does the gun need to be pointed at you or is plain sight enough?
Do they have grounds to sue? I mean in the US if anything like that happen to you, it have over 1000 lawyers standing in line to run a mock. Chin sounding like he doesn't need to be accountable. Telling the woman she could move to Switzerland. Complete disregard for people's rights which is always mirrored with disregard for people's safety. Take their money.
Anybody know what's the grounds for using a firearm in self defense? Does the gun need to be pointed at you or is plain sight enough?
Typically in order to use deadly force you must threatened with imminent death or serious bodily injury. So no, just seeing the gun alone isn't a threat of "imminent death or SBI". Having the gun pointed at you or words communicating such a threat should be sufficient to establish self-defense.
I always have to throw in the caveat that Trinidad kinda vaille-qui-vaille though... so who knows.
2 held in 'MovieTowne' thefts
By —Gyasi Gonzales
Trinidad Express
2 held in 'MovieTowne' thefts
By —Gyasi Gonzales
Trinidad Express
*smdh*
If people didn't start to make a setta fuss bout de incident, police woulda find dem?? Real friggin jokey people running this place yes!!! Chin muss be threaten the Hot Shot Top CoP from Canada.....steups!!!
Hold on, now they doubt that it took place at all? What was his grounds for firing the security manager then?
The employment benefits will be huge, said Chin, ever the entrepreneur, who only on June 29 formally opened Texas de Brazile at Fiesta Plaza, MovieTowne, Audrey Jeffers Highway.
Streets of the World
Derek Chin wants to take cultures from around the world and create a street after them. “There would be a Street of Mumbai, a Street of Hong Kong, a Street of the Middle East, a Street of Africa, and so on. There would be a fashion street for women. There would be a mini-carnival street, which (Carnival bandleader Brian) McFarlane would be involved in. These streets would be thematic streets.” There would be additional attractions, like horse and buggy. “Maybe from the (Queen’s Park) Savannah through Woodbrook straight to the Streets of the World, tourists would travel on them.”
It good 4 we 1 wk is boycott Movietowne d next wk dey liming up 2 c Transformers.You surprised? trinis is real fackin jokers! just look how a country wid all that money and ah mini population is being runned like ah potato farm and there's no mass unrest.
The employment benefits will be huge, said Chin, ever the entrepreneur, who only on June 29 formally opened Texas de Brazile at Fiesta Plaza, MovieTowne, Audrey Jeffers Highway.
Aka Fogo de Chao ::)
Different chains
Different chains
No shit Sherlock... anything else you'd like to add?
Thought you were implying that they were the same chain, guess not. What was your point then?
Thought you were implying that they were the same chain, guess not. What was your point then?
My point should have been obvious in light of the "ideas lacking in originality" comment near the end... all he's doing is recycling ideas from elsewhere and repackaging them in Trinidad. The least he coulda do was go for the original churrascaria and not the knockoff version.
but there are thousands of churrascaria chains around Brazil and the globe....the chains you named aren't copies of each other, they're just the standard Brazilian steakhouse....personally I think the concept will do well in TnT.
but there are thousands of churrascaria chains around Brazil and the globe....the chains you named aren't copies of each other, they're just the standard Brazilian steakhouse....personally I think the concept will do well in TnT.
Yes, the churrascaria concept isn't original to Fogo de Chao... thanks for sharing that. However, if you visit the two chains, understand the chronology of their founding, and appreciate where the two founding restaurants were located... then maybe you'd understand my comments better.
well like I really had to be Sherlock to know all dat lol.
The employment benefits will be huge, said Chin, ever the entrepreneur, who only on June 29 formally opened Texas de Brazile at Fiesta Plaza, MovieTowne, Audrey Jeffers Highway.
Aka Fogo de Chao ::)Quote
Hoss yuh know great food. My favorite restaurant, bar none....
Well either Chin going real far to discredit dis story or someting fishy.http://www.youtube.com/v/j1MAhGgJLn0
Well either Chin going real far to discredit dis story or someting fishy.http://www.youtube.com/v/j1MAhGgJLn0
A few questions..
1. It seems that a major premise for doubt that the incident occurred is based on the assumption that the security officer (Ms. Charles) was paying attention/looking on/doing her job at the time it took place. Why is her simply saying "i eh see nutten" carrying so much weight, especially if she has a motive to cover her ass?
2. For an accurate re-enactment, why didn't the news reporter scream from inside the vehicle with the passenger side window up as described in the victim's account?
3. Based on the account of the victims, the attack lasted a little less than 2 minutes. Based on the footage, was it 1:23 mins between the couple passing the concessions booth and reaching to the guard booth, or 1:23 mins they saying it took for the attack to happen? Because in the grand scheme of things, that isn't a big discrepancy as is being suggested.
So what is ultimately being suggested here? That the man calmly walk out of movietowne into the car park, enter his vehicle, buss his own head then drive to the guard booth within 2 minutes with a whole make up story??
So... what was the objective, just to beat him on he forri'd with a gun?
Not saying it didn't happen... but sounds kinda fishy to me (Facebook "confirmation" notwithstanding). Surprise it not in the news either.
So... what was the objective, just to beat him on he forri'd with a gun?
Not saying it didn't happen... but sounds kinda fishy to me (Facebook "confirmation" notwithstanding). Surprise it not in the news either.
From the beginning it sounded fishy to me. Now me eh no bandit but it just doesn't make sense to me that they would act as alleged. You's ah bandit and yuh have a gun in yuh hand... presumably pointed at the driver... driver start to fight back, but instead ah shooting him, yuh decide tuh pistol whip him instead?
Oh... but wait, de man say he was able to somehow grab de gun and block de trigger...ent? Okay.
Oh, but wait again... so how de bandit happen to beat him on he head with the gun while he was holding it at the same time? Ent he dragging de bandit all dis time? And why de bandit leave him alone in de end when he had the upper hand (regaining control of the gun)?
Again... not saying it didn't happen, but the account still doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to me.
My brother-in-law at that instance put his glass down only to receive a gashing blow with the gun to his forehead. The bandit then pushed the gun into his chest and he (my bother-in-law) grabbed it placing one of his finger behind the trigger and holding the barrel securely. With death facing both of them in the face, the bandit continued to hit him continuously with a metal object bursting his head open in several places.
Read the email again. Only the first blow was with the gun, while subsequent blows were with something else.QuoteMy brother-in-law at that instance put his glass down only to receive a gashing blow with the gun to his forehead. The bandit then pushed the gun into his chest and he (my bother-in-law) grabbed it placing one of his finger behind the trigger and holding the barrel securely. With death facing both of them in the face, the bandit continued to hit him continuously with a metal object bursting his head open in several places.
Sounds like something made of metal in the bandit's other hand.
Also what dinho said, that re-enactment was useless since from the email, the woman's window was up.
Playing with my Colt Python (.357) here and I can't see him blocking the trigger... especially if the robber had proper pistol grip...
Nah the bandit on the man's side never tried to open the door. He ordered the man to open it.
maybe de gun wasnt loaded, or was fake?
Nah the bandit on the man's side never tried to open the door. He ordered the man to open it.
Lawd ::)
... in the video the man demonstrate how the bandit press the gun against he chest and at the same time was trying to open the door.maybe de gun wasnt loaded, or was fake?
That crossed my mind... and remains a possibility... although I still find it hard that he'd run up to the car with both a gun and a piece ah iron in he hand. But anything's possible.
You're right, I forgot about that video.
Still it's easy for him to point the gun, try to open the door with one hand, then when the victim grabbed the gun, the bandit could pull something else from his pocket to hit the man with.
I not sayin it not fishy, but some things can be explained.
The weird part for me is the 2 bandits on the lady's side. Why didn't they break the glass? Is it that they just green? I don't think anyone said that they were armed so maybe they were hoping they would be able to pull it off easily with only one gun. Then when the victim resisted they got deflated.
Until someone suggests a plausible reason why this couple would fake the incident I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
and it continues...
Cinema boss and couple square off
Assault claimed at MovieTowne
By Kim Boodram
THE couple who last month claimed to have been assaulted at MovieTowne in Port of Spain said yesterday their are sticking to they story —