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Look Loy candidate for EFA president.
T&T Express Newspapers.
Keith Look Loy has announced his candidacy for president of the Eastern Football Association (EFA), with elections due on August 25.
"After much consideration of the implications of the decision I have taken, it is with the support of my club, FC Santa Rosa, and my colleagues in football that I hereby announce my candidacy for the presidency of the Eastern Football Association," Look Loy said in a media release.
Look Loy said over the last two years he had represented FC Santa Rosa in the EFA general council, which is the assembly of clubs. During that time he was not in agreement with the management style of current president Lennox Watson and general secretary Neville Ferguson.
"Under the outgoing leadership, the participation of member clubs in the life of the Association has virtually become meaningless, as the majority of clubs avoid meetings due to a sense of futility in having their collective voice heard and their decisions respected," Look Loy said.
"Rather than seeking to overcome the disenchantment of clubs by motivating them to participate in meetings, the EFA executive committee relies on the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) constitution, which absurdly recognises 25 percent of clubs as a valid quorum for a meeting, thus providing EFA meetings with the superficial façade of democracy."
Look Loy accused current EFA officials of poor management of the TTFF Centre of Excellence; stagnation of youth football; failure to assist clubs in securing proper match facilities; and lack of concern for technical matters, including coach education.
Among Look Loy's main goals if elected are a limit of two terms in office for any elected EFA official; reporting to member clubs by EFA representatives on the TTFF executive committee; revamped and expanded youth competition; and assistance to clubs in securing proper match facilities.
Look Loy's slate will consist of:
Keith Look Loy (FC Santa Rosa) for president
Roger Griffith (Prisons FC) for vice-president
Frank Rodriguez for vice-president
Anil Maraj (Carib FC) for committee member
Farlon Thomas (La Horquetta Sporting Academy) for committee member
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Might be a maneuver to challenge for presidency
Let the chips fall where they may.
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Keith Look Lie holds a position in the TTFF, FIFA and now he wants EFA.
What that telling you ?
A dictator is about to be born.
Control de votes and you control T&T football.
Now he have to find friends to run for the other zones.
Give the man a chance nah,i thought we wanted change and transparency,the man state his plans and he give the names of all the officials going to run the zone so nobody can't say they don't know who to check when we have problems.
I would like to know who are the people involved in voteing for these officials,to be fair they should let Soca Pro run a poll/election. :devil:
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Keith Look Lie holds a position in the TTFF, FIFA and now he wants EFA.
What that telling you ?
A dictator is about to be born.
Control de votes and you control T&T football.
Now he have to find friends to run for the other zones.
Give the man a chance nah,i thought we wanted change and transparency,the man state his plans and he give the names of all the officials going to run the zone so nobody can't say they don't know who to check when we have problems.
I would like to know who are the people involved in voteing for these officials,to be fair they should let Soca Pro run a poll/election. :devil:
Look Loy is Jacks man. A new flag for the same regime.
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Keith Look Lie holds a position in the TTFF, FIFA and now he wants EFA.
What that telling you ?
A dictator is about to be born.
Control de votes and you control T&T football.
Now he have to find friends to run for the other zones.
Give the man a chance nah,i thought we wanted change and transparency,the man state his plans and he give the names of all the officials going to run the zone so nobody can't say they don't know who to check when we have problems.
I would like to know who are the people involved in voteing for these officials,to be fair they should let Soca Pro run a poll/election. :devil:
Look Loy is Jacks man. A new flag for the same regime.
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Keith Look Lie holds a position in the TTFF, FIFA and now he wants EFA.
What that telling you ?
A dictator is about to be born.
Control de votes and you control T&T football.
Now he have to find friends to run for the other zones.
Give the man a chance nah,i thought we wanted change and transparency,the man state his plans and he give the names of all the officials going to run the zone so nobody can't say they don't know who to check when we have problems.
I would like to know who are the people involved in voting for these officials,to be fair they should let Soca Pro run a poll/election. :devil:
Look Loy is Jacks man. A new flag for the same regime.
CO-SIGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Aye i was just kicksing with Sam,so don't take me serious.OK it seems like anybody come forward eh satisfying alyu and who alyu want eh coming forward,we in a real messed up situation.I find FS has been doing some hard work,he have some innovative ideas if they can be implemented will help our Football,he could be the new face Football needs,why doesn't he canvas for the presidency of T&T Football?with someone like him in Football i'm sure all these expats with their expertise will follow,we have the personnel right here and we looking all over the place,when i listened to how the panel conducted themselves on the show last weekend ah mean what is it we want.
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TO: All EFA member clubs and other interested persons
FROM: Keith Look Loy, President, FC Santa Rosa
DATE: 11 August 2011
After much consideration of the implications of the decision I have taken, it is with the support of my club, FC Santa Rosa, and my colleagues in football that I hereby announce my candidacy for the presidency of the Eastern Football Association, which will be decided upon by the membership of the EFA on 25 August 2011.
LACK OF DEMOCRACY AND TRANSPARENCY
Over the course of the last two years I have represented FC Santa Rosa in the General Council of the EFA, i.e. the assembly of clubs. During that time I have been witness to, and resisted, the consistent attempt of the current leadership, under president Lennox Watson and general secretary Neville Ferguson, to maintain a culture of personal dictatorship and abuse of member clubs, a culture lacking in democracy and transparency.
Under the outgoing leadership, the participation of member clubs in the life of the Association has virtually become meaningless, as the majority of clubs avoid meetings due to a sense of futility in having their collective voice heard and their decisions respected. Rather than seeking to overcome the disenchantment of clubs by motivating them to participate in meetings, the EFA executive committee relies on the TTFF Constitution, which absurdly recognizes twenty five percent of clubs as a valid quorum for a meeting, thus providing EFA meetings with the superficial façade of democracy.
Even worse is the fact that member clubs are forced to demand the presentation of meeting minutes, and other meeting documents – a demand the EFA secretariat has refused to accede to in recent months. Indeed, the Association´s secretary is usually seen not taking notes in meetings. This refusal to document decisions taken by member clubs allows the EFA executive committee to ignore and/or seek to alter decisions of the club assembly. Moreover, the financial affairs of the Association lack transparency. Club representatives have been forced to repeatedly request the presentation of the 2010 auditor’s report, while the financial statement for the Bar-B-Que held in May of this year is yet to be presented to the General Council.
There is also the issue of EFA representatives on the TTFF executive committee not reporting to the member clubs which they represent. The relationship EFA member clubs should have to the business conducted by the TTFF executive committee is non-existent. Indeed, those who sit on the TTFF executive function independently of the EFA. Finally, and not to be ignored, is the aggressively dictatorial and even abusive manner in which club meetings are chaired by the president, Lennox Watson. It is for these reasons that many clubs simply refuse to attend meetings.
LACK OF DEVELOPMENT
Despite its motto, “To be the best association through the development of football”, the current EFA leadership has presided over the stagnation of the game in east Trinidad. The Association is plagued by:
- Poor scheduling and management of senior and youth competitions. FC Santa Rosa has repeatedly requested the development of a season calendar, to no avail.
-Stagnation of youth football, with age group competitions of two and three teams, in an Association that has twenty clubs. Youth competitions are seen as a burden to be completed with the minimum investment of resources and time.
-Failure to assist clubs in securing proper match facilities Lack of concern for technical matters, including coach education, and specifically, failure to access the new TTFF coach education programme.
- Failure to assist clubs in developing their internal administration, and specifically, failure to implement a club development seminar as agreed at the FIFA club development course held in Port of Spain in May of 2010.
-Poor management of the TTFF Centre of Excellence, which is affected by poor attendance among players.
POLITICAL ENTRENCHMENT
The removal of the current undemocratic EFA executive is as easy task as we wish to make it. All it requires is the conscious decision to cease our interminable but useless complaining about the state of affairs within the Association, to attend meetings, and to participate in the decision making process. In other words.
DEMOCRACY.
Our membership in the EFA should mean more than completing fixtures, competing against each other, and trying to win a title. We should be focused on developing the game so that ALL of us win – now and into the future. Our rivalry, our isolation from each other and our complacency have allowed the current executive committee to entrench itself over many years and to develop a sense of ownership of the Association, which is worsened by its obvious inability to lead the Association properly. This must end NOW.
ACTION PROGRAMME
As president, I pledge to implement the following within the EFA and to canvass for their introduction into the broader TTFF, where applicable:
- A limit of two terms in office for any elected EFA official
- Reporting to member clubs by EFA representatives on the TTFF executive committee
- Transparent and immediate accounting for any fundraising done on behalf of the Association Submission of an annual financial statement within the first quarter of the following year
- Monthly club meetings, including a standard agenda and proper minuting
- A season calendar to be agreed by all member clubs
- A revamped and expanded youth competition
- Assistance to clubs in securing proper match facilities
- A club development programme, to promote the ability of clubs to better manage their internal affairs
- Requirements for club and coach registration, to improve the standard of football within the Association
- A Finance and Marketing Committee to supervise the financial affairs of the Association
- A Media and Public Relations Committee, to promote the Association´s ability to communicate with the football and general public
- A Technical Committee, to supervise the technical affairs of the Association
- An EFA technical department, headed by a technical director, which will be responsible for player screening and development, and specifically supervision of the TTFF Centre of Excellence, as well as coach education
TIME FOR POSITIVE CHANGE
The time for change that will move our game forward is NOW. Football cannot grow under the leadership of the current clique for another term of office. They are mentally and spiritually divorced from the issues that concern football clubs because they do not belong to any, or have to fight the daily struggle for survival and progress like we do.
THIS ELECTION IS NOT ABOUT PERSONALITIES. IT IS ABOUT THE POLITICS OF DEMOCRACY, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF VIABLE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMES, AND THE PLANNED PROGRESS OF OUR SPORT AND OUR ASSOCIATION.
The current executive understands it has alienated the clubs, and that it is now under challenge as never before. Do not be fooled when they shuffle the pack and play musical chairs in an effort to present a new face. Is same khaki pants. Do not be fooled by promises of good things to come if you vote for them. They had all the time in the world and failed to do ANYTHING. That is long time politics.
CONCLUSION
I CALL ON ALL EFA MEMBER CLUBS TO ENSURE THEIR FINANCIAL STANDING WITH THE ASSOCIATION AND TO ATTEND THE MEETING OF THURSDAY 25 AUGUST 2011. The meeting will be held at the Nelson Mandela Hall at the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence, from 7:00PM.
Attend the meeting and vote for the following candidates:
- Keith LOOK LOY (FC Santa Rosa) for President
- Roger GRIFFITH (Prisons FC) for Vice-President
- Frank RODRIGUEZ for Vice-President
- Anil Maraj (Carib FC) for Committee Member
- Farlon Thomas (La Horquetta Sporting Academy) for Committee Member
After all the disenchantment and grumbling, we now have the opportunity to actually make a
positive change.
THE TIME FOR GRUMBLING IS OVER. LET US SET ASIDE THE CLUB AND PERSONAL RIVALRIES.
COME OUT AND MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR ASSOCIATION AND OUR GAME.
Keith Look Loy
Candidate for the EFA president
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very nice ideas Mr. president, :devil: good luck to you.
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Sorry, not impressed considering the man is Jack's right hand hatchet guy. Credibility seems to be luxury for these guys. He has been head and head with Groden on carrying out TTFF business. I guess we'll soon hear that Anton will be in the running for another association. Sweet T&T indeed.
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Sorry, not impressed considering the man is Jack's right hand hatchet guy. Credibility seems to be luxury for these guys. He has been head and head with Groden on carrying out TTFF business. I guess we'll soon hear that Anton will be in the running for another association. Sweet T&T indeed.
:beermug:
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Keith Look Lie holds a position in the TTFF, FIFA and now he wants EFA.
What that telling you ?
A dictator is about to be born.
Control de votes and you control T&T football.
Now he have to find friends to run for the other zones.
Give the man a chance nah,i thought we wanted change and transparency,the man state his plans and he give the names of all the officials going to run the zone so nobody can't say they don't know who to check when we have problems.
I would like to know who are the people involved in voting for these officials,to be fair they should let Soca Pro run a poll/election. :devil:
Look Loy is Jacks man. A new flag for the same regime.
CO-SIGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Aye i was just kicksing with Sam,so don't take me serious.OK it seems like anybody come forward eh satisfying alyu and who alyu want eh coming forward,we in a real messed up situation.I find FS has been doing some hard work,he have some innovative ideas if they can be implemented will help our Football,he could be the new face Football needs,why doesn't he canvas for the presidency of T&T Football?with someone like him in Football i'm sure all these expats with their expertise will follow,we have the personnel right here and we looking all over the place,when i listened to how the panel conducted themselves on the show last weekend ah mean what is it we want.
Coops, I am honoured that you called my name. New face of football? Obviously yuh never see meh face hoss lol
I don't think the rank and file would accept a foreigner in charge, but I'd love the chance to do the marketing and community stuff!
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Marlon Morris is running for NFA president
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Keith Look Lie holds a position in the TTFF, FIFA and now he wants EFA.
What that telling you ?
A dictator is about to be born.
Control de votes and you control T&T football.
Now he have to find friends to run for the other zones.
Give the man a chance nah,i thought we wanted change and transparency,the man state his plans and he give the names of all the officials going to run the zone so nobody can't say they don't know who to check when we have problems.
I would like to know who are the people involved in voting for these officials,to be fair they should let Soca Pro run a poll/election. :devil:
Look Loy is Jacks man. A new flag for the same regime.
CO-SIGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Aye i was just kicksing with Sam,so don't take me serious.OK it seems like anybody come forward eh satisfying alyu and who alyu want eh coming forward,we in a real messed up situation.I find FS has been doing some hard work,he have some innovative ideas if they can be implemented will help our Football,he could be the new face Football needs,why doesn't he canvas for the presidency of T&T Football?with someone like him in Football i'm sure all these expats with their expertise will follow,we have the personnel right here and we looking all over the place,when i listened to how the panel conducted themselves on the show last weekend ah mean what is it we want.
Coops, I am honoured that you called my name. New face of football? Obviously yuh never see meh face hoss lol
I don't think the rank and file would accept a foreigner in charge, but I'd love the chance to do the marketing and community stuff!
I thought the consensus was to have foreigners run Football in the country,we already hireing foreign Coaches and advisors,it seems we like foreign because Trinis eh good enough.I've never seen your face but you seem dedicated to the cause.
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Keith Look Lie holds a position in the TTFF, FIFA and now he wants EFA.
What that telling you ?
A dictator is about to be born.
Control de votes and you control T&T football.
Now he have to find friends to run for the other zones.
Give the man a chance nah,i thought we wanted change and transparency,the man state his plans and he give the names of all the officials going to run the zone so nobody can't say they don't know who to check when we have problems.
I would like to know who are the people involved in voting for these officials,to be fair they should let Soca Pro run a poll/election. :devil:
Look Loy is Jacks man. A new flag for the same regime.
CO-SIGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Aye i was just kicksing with Sam,so don't take me serious.OK it seems like anybody come forward eh satisfying alyu and who alyu want eh coming forward,we in a real messed up situation.I find FS has been doing some hard work,he have some innovative ideas if they can be implemented will help our Football,he could be the new face Football needs,why doesn't he canvas for the presidency of T&T Football?with someone like him in Football i'm sure all these expats with their expertise will follow,we have the personnel right here and we looking all over the place,when i listened to how the panel conducted themselves on the show last weekend ah mean what is it we want.
Coops, I am honoured that you called my name. New face of football? Obviously yuh never see meh face hoss lol
I don't think the rank and file would accept a foreigner in charge, but I'd love the chance to do the marketing and community stuff!
I thought the consensus was to have foreigners run Football in the country,we already hireing foreign Coaches and advisors,it seems we like foreign because Trinis eh good enough.I've never seen your face but you seem dedicated to the cause.
When did someone convince you that a nutsman like Controv speaks for all of us?! ::)
At any rate FS will do a much better, transparent & accountable job than Camps that’s for sure. If only you can convince your good partner Camps that he’s done his fair share of damage and its way overdue for him to accept his retirement plague from BM & step aside for the betterment of T&T football! ;)
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Keith Look Lie holds a position in the TTFF, FIFA and now he wants EFA.
What that telling you ?
A dictator is about to be born.
Control de votes and you control T&T football.
Now he have to find friends to run for the other zones.
Give the man a chance nah,i thought we wanted change and transparency,the man state his plans and he give the names of all the officials going to run the zone so nobody can't say they don't know who to check when we have problems.
I would like to know who are the people involved in voting for these officials,to be fair they should let Soca Pro run a poll/election. :devil:
Look Loy is Jacks man. A new flag for the same regime.
CO-SIGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Aye i was just kicksing with Sam,so don't take me serious.OK it seems like anybody come forward eh satisfying alyu and who alyu want eh coming forward,we in a real messed up situation.I find FS has been doing some hard work,he have some innovative ideas if they can be implemented will help our Football,he could be the new face Football needs,why doesn't he canvas for the presidency of T&T Football?with someone like him in Football i'm sure all these expats with their expertise will follow,we have the personnel right here and we looking all over the place,when i listened to how the panel conducted themselves on the show last weekend ah mean what is it we want.
Coops, I am honoured that you called my name. New face of football? Obviously yuh never see meh face hoss lol
I don't think the rank and file would accept a foreigner in charge, but I'd love the chance to do the marketing and community stuff!
I thought the consensus was to have foreigners run Football in the country,we already hireing foreign Coaches and advisors,it seems we like foreign because Trinis eh good enough.I've never seen your face but you seem dedicated to the cause.
When did someone convince you that a nutsman like Controv speaks for all of us?! ::)
At any rate FS will do a much better, transparent & accountable job than Camps that’s for sure. If only you can convince your good partner Camps that he’s done his fair share of damage and its way overdue for him to accept his retirement plague from BM & step aside for the betterment of T&T football! ;)
When did someone convince you that anything FS says will work or is the answer to our problems.
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I actually know BOTH Watson AND Look Loy, and believe you me, Look Loy WILL do a far better job than Watson, who could be considered the "Ollie Camps of the EFA"... will it be TRUE CHANGE or just an EXCHANGE (a la the current Political situation in T&T), only time will tell, but in the absence of any other alternative, and since the definition of madness is to try the same thing over and over and expect a different result, I say GOOD LUCK to Mr. Look Loy and it will be up to the Clubs to ensure that the new President keeps his campaign promises!
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I actually know BOTH Watson AND Look Loy, and believe you me, Look Loy WILL do a far better job than Watson, who could be considered the "Ollie Camps of the EFA"... will it be TRUE CHANGE or just an EXCHANGE (a la the current Political situation in T&T), only time will tell, but in the absence of any other alternative, and since the definition of madness is to try the same thing over and over and expect a different result, I say GOOD LUCK to Mr. Look Loy and it will be up to the Clubs to ensure that the new President keeps his campaign promises!
:thumbsup:
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Keith Look Lie holds a position in the TTFF, FIFA and now he wants EFA.
What that telling you ?
A dictator is about to be born.
Control de votes and you control T&T football.
Now he have to find friends to run for the other zones.
Give the man a chance nah,i thought we wanted change and transparency,the man state his plans and he give the names of all the officials going to run the zone so nobody can't say they don't know who to check when we have problems.
I would like to know who are the people involved in voting for these officials,to be fair they should let Soca Pro run a poll/election. :devil:
Look Loy is Jacks man. A new flag for the same regime.
CO-SIGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Aye i was just kicksing with Sam,so don't take me serious.OK it seems like anybody come forward eh satisfying alyu and who alyu want eh coming forward,we in a real messed up situation.I find FS has been doing some hard work,he have some innovative ideas if they can be implemented will help our Football,he could be the new face Football needs,why doesn't he canvas for the presidency of T&T Football?with someone like him in Football i'm sure all these expats with their expertise will follow,we have the personnel right here and we looking all over the place,when i listened to how the panel conducted themselves on the show last weekend ah mean what is it we want.
Coops, I am honoured that you called my name. New face of football? Obviously yuh never see meh face hoss lol
I don't think the rank and file would accept a foreigner in charge, but I'd love the chance to do the marketing and community stuff!
I thought the consensus was to have foreigners run Football in the country,we already hireing foreign Coaches and advisors,it seems we like foreign because Trinis eh good enough.I've never seen your face but you seem dedicated to the cause.
When did someone convince you that a nutsman like Controv speaks for all of us?! ::)
At any rate FS will do a much better, transparent & accountable job than Camps that’s for sure. If only you can convince your good partner Camps that he’s done his fair share of damage and its way overdue for him to accept his retirement plague from BM & step aside for the betterment of T&T football! ;)
When did someone convince you that anything FS says will work or is the answer to our problems.
:devil:
Coop's is the best yes!! Ah just cyah corner this man at all! So much ah ducking and weaving :challenge: he putting Muhammad Ali at his height back his hay day to shame!! :D
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Keith Look Lie holds a position in the TTFF, FIFA and now he wants EFA.
What that telling you ?
A dictator is about to be born.
Control de votes and you control T&T football.
Now he have to find friends to run for the other zones.
Give the man a chance nah,i thought we wanted change and transparency,the man state his plans and he give the names of all the officials going to run the zone so nobody can't say they don't know who to check when we have problems.
I would like to know who are the people involved in voting for these officials,to be fair they should let Soca Pro run a poll/election. :devil:
Look Loy is Jacks man. A new flag for the same regime.
CO-SIGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Aye i was just kicksing with Sam,so don't take me serious.OK it seems like anybody come forward eh satisfying alyu and who alyu want eh coming forward,we in a real messed up situation.I find FS has been doing some hard work,he have some innovative ideas if they can be implemented will help our Football,he could be the new face Football needs,why doesn't he canvas for the presidency of T&T Football?with someone like him in Football i'm sure all these expats with their expertise will follow,we have the personnel right here and we looking all over the place,when i listened to how the panel conducted themselves on the show last weekend ah mean what is it we want.
Coops, I am honoured that you called my name. New face of football? Obviously yuh never see meh face hoss lol
I don't think the rank and file would accept a foreigner in charge, but I'd love the chance to do the marketing and community stuff!
I thought the consensus was to have foreigners run Football in the country,we already hireing foreign Coaches and advisors,it seems we like foreign because Trinis eh good enough.I've never seen your face but you seem dedicated to the cause.
When did someone convince you that a nutsman like Controv speaks for all of us?! ::)
At any rate FS will do a much better, transparent & accountable job than Camps that’s for sure. If only you can convince your good partner Camps that he’s done his fair share of damage and its way overdue for him to accept his retirement plague from BM & step aside for the betterment of T&T football! ;)
When did someone convince you that anything FS says will work or is the answer to our problems.
:devil:
Coop's is the best yes!! Ah just cyah corner this man at all! So much ah ducking and weaving :challenge: he putting Muhammad Ali at his height back his hay day to shame!! :D
When i quiet alyu say my Computer break down,look leave me alone eh. :devil:
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well well well ..... I eh from texas folks but from right here in T&T . Is this de same look loy who was persona non grata, banned from foo6tball for striking a referee ? who Jack clean off and bring een in de TTFF/TTfa ?
All yuh know I old ..but ah still have ah memory for dese tings !
For me no one ..let me repeat that ...no one who is part of this present TTFF administration has an moral authority to contest a post in a new TTFF !!!
How anyone can consider a man who was part of an administration through which Millions of dollars has been filtered, as a candidate for a new TTFF is beyond me.The TTFF eh even have an office of their own .. ..Look Loy ?? Please !!
He has plenty questions to answer not the least of which is ...why did you not speak up on behalf of the players of T&T ...the Soca warriors ...remember them ?? ..and who knew or aught to have known what was taking place with them and the TTFF headed ...tailed.... mid-sectioned by Jack Warner. Now warner gone you asking for folks to support his disciple ?? ...who all of a sudden is interested in the development of football ? is he not now the development officer in de TTFF ? so he change he clothes and now he is ah different person ? ...like de calypsonian say ...they could dress up how much dey want check dey underclothes ...well he said it differently but same effect ...
If a change and new direction is to be ....can we see look loy as part of that ? Not Me ...in any position .
There are those who duck and run ...dance around anything ....support everybody when they in power ...but if there is one thing I have learnt in life is that ..If you stand for nothing ...you fall for everything ... and I eh go stand for Look Loy
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well well well ..... I eh from texas folks but from right here in T&T . Is this de same look loy who was persona non grata, banned from foo6tball for striking a referee ? who Jack clean off and bring een in de TTFF/TTfa ?
All yuh know I old ..but ah still have ah memory for dese tings !
For me no one ..let me repeat that ...no one who is part of this present TTFF administration has an moral authority to contest a post in a new TTFF !!!
How anyone can consider a man who was part of an administration through which Millions of dollars has been filtered, as a candidate for a new TTFF is beyond me.The TTFF eh even have an office of their own .. ..Look Loy ?? Please !!
He has plenty questions to answer not the least of which is ...why did you not speak up on behalf of the players of T&T ...the Soca warriors ...remember them ?? ..and who knew or aught to have known what was taking place with them and the TTFF headed ...tailed.... mid-sectioned by Jack Warner. Now warner gone you asking for folks to support his disciple ?? ...who all of a sudden is interested in the development of football ? is he not now the development officer in de TTFF ? so he change he clothes and now he is ah different person ? ...like de calypsonian say ...they could dress up how much dey want check dey underclothes ...well he said it differently but same effect ...
If a change and new direction is to be ....can we see look loy as part of that ? Not Me ...in any position .
There are those who duck and run ...dance around anything ....support everybody when they in power ...but if there is one thing I have learnt in life is that ..If you stand for nothing ...you fall for everything ... and I eh go stand for Look Loy
:beermug:
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well well well ..... I eh from texas folks but from right here in T&T . Is this de same look loy who was persona non grata, banned from foo6tball for striking a referee ? who Jack clean off and bring een in de TTFF/TTfa ?
All yuh know I old ..but ah still have ah memory for dese tings !
For me no one ..let me repeat that ...no one who is part of this present TTFF administration has an moral authority to contest a post in a new TTFF !!!
How anyone can consider a man who was part of an administration through which Millions of dollars has been filtered, as a candidate for a new TTFF is beyond me.The TTFF eh even have an office of their own .. ..Look Loy ?? Please !!
He has plenty questions to answer not the least of which is ...why did you not speak up on behalf of the players of T&T ...the Soca warriors ...remember them ?? ..and who knew or aught to have known what was taking place with them and the TTFF headed ...tailed.... mid-sectioned by Jack Warner. Now warner gone you asking for folks to support his disciple ?? ...who all of a sudden is interested in the development of football ? is he not now the development officer in de TTFF ? so he change he clothes and now he is ah different person ? ...like de calypsonian say ...they could dress up how much dey want check dey underclothes ...well he said it differently but same effect ...
If a change and new direction is to be ....can we see look loy as part of that ? Not Me ...in any position .
There are those who duck and run ...dance around anything ....support everybody when they in power ...but if there is one thing I have learnt in life is that ..If you stand for nothing ...you fall for everything ... and I eh go stand for Look Loy
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well well well ..... I eh from texas folks but from right here in T&T . Is this de same look loy who was persona non grata, banned from foo6tball for striking a referee ? who Jack clean off and bring een in de TTFF/TTfa ?
All yuh know I old ..but ah still have ah memory for dese tings !
For me no one ..let me repeat that ...no one who is part of this present TTFF administration has an moral authority to contest a post in a new TTFF !!!
How anyone can consider a man who was part of an administration through which Millions of dollars has been filtered, as a candidate for a new TTFF is beyond me.The TTFF eh even have an office of their own .. ..Look Loy ?? Please !!
He has plenty questions to answer not the least of which is ...why did you not speak up on behalf of the players of T&T ...the Soca warriors ...remember them ?? ..and who knew or aught to have known what was taking place with them and the TTFF headed ...tailed.... mid-sectioned by Jack Warner. Now warner gone you asking for folks to support his disciple ?? ...who all of a sudden is interested in the development of football ? is he not now the development officer in de TTFF ? so he change he clothes and now he is ah different person ? ...like de calypsonian say ...they could dress up how much dey want check dey underclothes ...well he said it differently but same effect ...
If a change and new direction is to be ....can we see look loy as part of that ? Not Me ...in any position .
There are those who duck and run ...dance around anything ....support everybody when they in power ...but if there is one thing I have learnt in life is that ..If you stand for nothing ...you fall for everything ... and I eh go stand for Look Loy
I hear you Jai, but the alternative is to maintain the status Quo, ie Lennox Watson... AGAIN, I repeat, there is NO THIRD ALTERNATIVE, so what you saying... you prefer to leave the incumbent??? I will always advocate a change of direction as opposed to staying with "The Devil we know..." just MY perspective.
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well well well ..... I eh from texas folks but from right here in T&T . Is this de same look loy who was persona non grata, banned from foo6tball for striking a referee ? who Jack clean off and bring een in de TTFF/TTfa ?
All yuh know I old ..but ah still have ah memory for dese tings !
For me no one ..let me repeat that ...no one who is part of this present TTFF administration has an moral authority to contest a post in a new TTFF !!!
How anyone can consider a man who was part of an administration through which Millions of dollars has been filtered, as a candidate for a new TTFF is beyond me.The TTFF eh even have an office of their own .. ..Look Loy ?? Please !!
He has plenty questions to answer not the least of which is ...why did you not speak up on behalf of the players of T&T ...the Soca warriors ...remember them ?? ..and who knew or aught to have known what was taking place with them and the TTFF headed ...tailed.... mid-sectioned by Jack Warner. Now warner gone you asking for folks to support his disciple ?? ...who all of a sudden is interested in the development of football ? is he not now the development officer in de TTFF ? so he change he clothes and now he is ah different person ? ...like de calypsonian say ...they could dress up how much dey want check dey underclothes ...well he said it differently but same effect ...
If a change and new direction is to be ....can we see look loy as part of that ? Not Me ...in any position .
There are those who duck and run ...dance around anything ....support everybody when they in power ...but if there is one thing I have learnt in life is that ..If you stand for nothing ...you fall for everything ... and I eh go stand for Look Loy
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Look, ah go tell yuh no Loy, I realize how dotish most people is, so I will capitalze on dey dotshness by following the template of meh hero, Jack A. Warner. Capeche.
If yuh could read between the lines yun not go fall for the same dotsihness and dah kinda history not go repeat itself, on the other hand, I go tek meh chances. Allyuh mudda neck.
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Dear all,
More than one week ago FC Santa Rosa nominated several persons to run for positions in the election of officers scheduled to take place at the Annual General Meeting of Thursday 25 August 2011. These nominations were seconded by Prisons Sports Club and submitted on 10 August 2011, within the constitutional deadline of fourteen (14) days prior to the election.
Yesterday, word reached me from within the Prisons SC hierarchy that Prisons has withdrawn its secondment of the nominations. While Prisons' unprecedented decision has yet to be officially communicated to me or any other candidate, it is clear that pressure has been exerted on Prisons by known elements to have the nomination of opposing candidates (including a Prisons SC member, Roger Griffith) declared null and void, to declare themselves unopposed, and to return themselves to office for yet another term. This a clear attempt by certain forces to manipulate the Constitution and to subvert the democratic process.
Although I have not been advised officially, as a precautionary measure I am calling for the AGM and/or the election of officers to be postponed until Thursday 8 September 2011, that is, by two (2) weeks, to allow the candidates affected by this development to be seconded by another club and to satisfy the constitutional requirement that they be officially nominated at least fourteen (14) days prior to the election.
This would be the democratic manner in which to proceed. The clubs must have their collective voice heard - whoever they vote for. Legal trickery should not be allowed to triumph.
Regards.
Keith Look Loy
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Opinion is one thing - everybody is entitled to have one - but facts are another. Whatever your opinion of Look Loy, people should have their facts right. Look Loy was never "convicted of striking a referee" - typical Trini mauvais langue and rumor. In 1991 the SSFL sought to find him guilty of striking a referee on CIC grounds. When he appeared with his lawyers at the disciplinary meeting and there was no evidence of this, the league then found him guilty of inciting Malick Comprehensive supporters to strike a referee. He took the SSFL to civil court, where the schools' league had to PROVE their case and not act on personal prejudice. The court judged in his favour and the SSFL was required to pay a settlement and court cost
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Opinion is one thing - everybody is entitled to have one - but facts are another. Whatever your opinion of Look Loy, people should have their facts right. Look Loy was never "convicted of striking a referee" - typical Trini mauvais langue and rumor. In 1991 the SSFL sought to find him guilty of striking a referee on CIC grounds. When he appeared with his lawyers at the disciplinary meeting and there was no evidence of this, the league then found him guilty of inciting Malick Comprehensive supporters to strike a referee. He took the SSFL to civil court, where the schools' league had to PROVE their case and not act on personal prejudice. The court judged in his favour and the SSFL was required to pay a settlement and court cost
Thank u Kieth for clearing that up but from where I sit/stand/crouch u are still JW boi so 4give me 4 not cryin that u cyah run to b Prez of d EFA.
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Get your facts right and don't just talk pal...
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More to the point, what do most of the people on this site DO for football rather than TALK about it - mostly from North America, from what I can decipher, and talk any old thing they please too because they have a computer? Let me be more explicit, INFORMED and RATIONAL opinion - agreeable or not - is one things, anything else we could do without. Do YOU leave YOUR job every time YOUR employers do something with which YOU do not agree?
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More to the point, what do most of the people on this site DO for football rather than TALK about it - mostly from North America, from what I can decipher, and talk any old thing they please too because they have a computer? Let me be more explicit, INFORMED and RATIONAL opinion - agreeable or not - is one things, anything else we could do without. Do YOU leave YOUR job every time YOUR employers do something with which YOU do not agree?
so is really you then keith?
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Does it matter? If I say "Yes" somebody will fly into attack mode without KNOWING anything about me. If I say "No" somebody will say I don't know what I am talking about. We should deal with facts and INFORMED opinion on this site, which could be so much more than a space to just say anything you feel or think. The real issue is that too many contributors on this site pass judgement without having the slightest idea about what REALLY goes on INSIDE the TTFF, who is fighting for what, who is an obstacle, and they appear to believe that because they do not see or hear someone objecting to something in the public media that they are not objecting at all.
I hasten to add the TTFF is guilty of many sins, but I ask again, how many of us quit a job when their employer makes a decision with which they do not agree? If they are brave enough they object INTERNALLY. If they are that convinced then they leave, and when you leave you're free to take any course of action you choose. The TTFF is not exempt from this general principle. It's called Professional Ethics. Because you do not hear someone objecting in public doesn't mean they are complicit in private.
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Opinion is one thing - everybody is entitled to have one - but facts are another. Whatever your opinion of Look Loy, people should have their facts right. Look Loy was never "convicted of striking a referee" - typical Trini mauvais langue and rumor. In 1991 the SSFL sought to find him guilty of striking a referee on CIC grounds. When he appeared with his lawyers at the disciplinary meeting and there was no evidence of this, the league then found him guilty of inciting Malick Comprehensive supporters to strike a referee. He took the SSFL to civil court, where the schools' league had to PROVE their case and not act on personal prejudice. The court judged in his favour and the SSFL was required to pay a settlement and court cost
" Look Loy was never "convicted of striking a referee" is not the same as Look Loy never struck a referee is it...and you chose your words well. I suppose Look Loy never led his team CIC off the field in protest too huh ? Well we all do things that in hindsight we might think were ill advised ...but we have to face facts ... not being convicted because someone could not prove a case against you does not mean you did not commit the act. You watch TV and read the news ...it happens all the time .
I am willing to overlook such trivial issues however .... but what concerns me is the fact that this man was in TTFF and has said nothing concerning the former FIFA vice president and the entire mess the TTFF has found itself in ! Can he be trusted to make a new start in a new TTFF ? His no comment approach is hardly the response from someone who is committed to representing democracy and transparency is it ?
He is part of an administration which has failed and failed miserably. I dont know the man so there is nothing personal , I just am hesitant to support " an insider who said nothing "
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Does it matter? If I say "Yes" somebody will fly into attack mode without KNOWING anything about me. If I say "No" somebody will say I don't know what I am talking about. We should deal with facts and INFORMED opinion on this site, which could be so much more than a space to just say anything you feel or think. The real issue is that too many contributors on this site pass judgement without having the slightest idea about what REALLY goes on INSIDE the TTFF, who is fighting for what, who is an obstacle, and they appear to believe that because they do not see or hear someone objecting to something in the public media that they are not objecting at all.
I hasten to add the TTFF is guilty of many sins, but I ask again, how many of us quit a job when their employer makes a decision with which they do not agree? If they are brave enough they object INTERNALLY. If they are that convinced then they leave, and when you leave you're free to take any course of action you choose. The TTFF is not exempt from this general principle. It's called Professional Ethics. Because you do not hear someone objecting in public doesn't mean they are complicit in private.
I could accept that but someone who has not shown his colours cant be expected to offer to paint you a different picture .
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Does it matter? If I say "Yes" somebody will fly into attack mode without KNOWING anything about me. If I say "No" somebody will say I don't know what I am talking about. We should deal with facts and INFORMED opinion on this site, which could be so much more than a space to just say anything you feel or think. The real issue is that too many contributors on this site pass judgement without having the slightest idea about what REALLY goes on INSIDE the TTFF, who is fighting for what, who is an obstacle, and they appear to believe that because they do not see or hear someone objecting to something in the public media that they are not objecting at all.
I hasten to add the TTFF is guilty of many sins, but I ask again, how many of us quit a job when their employer makes a decision with which they do not agree? If they are brave enough they object INTERNALLY. If they are that convinced then they leave, and when you leave you're free to take any course of action you choose. The TTFF is not exempt from this general principle. It's called Professional Ethics. Because you do not hear someone objecting in public doesn't mean they are complicit in private.
Fair points... but I don't think it's as simple as asking "how many of us quit a job when their employer makes a decision with which they do not agree?" It depends on what's at stake and if there are any ethical/morally reprehensible acts in question. If one's professional ethics as you say, are compromised then the proper thing to do would be to quit. The fact that no one here has quit under such circumstances don't make us hypocrites as implied by your stance... it just means we haven't been faced with the same dilemma as TTFF insiders (who have undeniably been faced with ethical concerns).
" Look Loy was never "convicted of striking a referee" is not the same as Look Loy never struck a referee is it...and you chose your words well.
You said he was "banned" though... if he wasn't "convicted" how could he be "banned"? I think that's his point.
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Here we go again talking without facts. Look Loy NEVER coached CIC. He coached Malick Comprehensive. He never struck a referee, which is why the SSFL had to change tack from a charge of "striking the referee" to "incitement to strike". In any event, the SSFL sanction was thrown out by a court of the land. Get the facts straight before commenting.
Moreover, it is both easy and futile to criticize the TTFF from outside, where everybody has all the easy answers. Far more difficult it is to fight from the inside for a progressive agenda. Over time, the latter approach has caused an amelioration - albeit inconsistent - of the ills that affect the TTFF. An avalanche of criticism from the outside has produced NOTHING.
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An avalanche of criticism from the outside has produced NOTHING.
mr. President, meh eh have no beef with you. But this criticism seem to have some kind of effect. But are you are saying we should stay silent and let the TTFF continue to run the football whichever way they want. Are you satisfied with this preparation for our first WC game against Bermuda? Me eh no waggonist, yuh kno. I have been following this team 24/7 since 67.
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Not at all Deeks. I agree with much of the criticism on this site. What I do NOT agree with it the broad stroke of the brush with which almost everyone who has any relationship to the TTFF is painted and condemned. This condemnation is without knowledge of what people are doing, what they stand for, and is tantamount to guilt by association.
Specifically, the preparation of our national senior team, in terms of international matches, leaves a lot to be desired - and that's an understatement. The cancellation of the Haiti match was outrageous. The outsourcing of the national senior team's financial affairs in even more so - and it does nothing to resolve the many political, administrative and technical issues that arise from the TTFF's internal woes and weaknesses. These cannot be outsourced.
All I am saying is that people on this site - frustrated lovers of TT football, I appreciate - need to be more sober and rational in their opinions. As another example, on another thread, I see one person saying Fakoory is "a waste of time". One doesn't have to be a Fakoory acolyte, or even know the man, to appreciate the fact that he has spent millions of his own money to support the club and the game he loves over very many years - and with no financial return. Now, would the guy who so glibly condemns Fakoory spend one cent of his own cash in this way? I have serious doubts.
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Let me add my 2 cents here...I have known keith Look Loy for a long time.. in fact my dad once coached him... and the fact that he has been perceived, (rightfully or wrongfully) as one of JW's "boys" raises a question in MY mind... if he is indeed as bad as some here think, WHY would the incumbent EFA President (who has repeatedly claimed he is "fed up wid de wuK and ready to leave") be STILL trying to hold on to the EFA Presidency??? He could just hand over the baton ent? As I said before Keith Look Loy undoubtedly has his OWN agenda (and WHO DOESN'T?), but the FACTS are it's a TWO way choice between Watson and him...so faced with THAT choice, I choose to give Look Loy a chance... President said something VERY relevant... so many people on this site quick to bump their gum and COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN... "Camps must go"... "de TTFF corrupt, HOW can we get rid of them?", but when time for ACTION, how many GET INVOLVED... the FACT is the one SURE FIRE way to move these miscreants is to gradually REPLACE those sitting on the executive ONE BY ONE when the clubs have voting in the respective zones... THEN from among the replacements, one (or MORE) can contest the post of TTFF President...at least that would be MY PLAN A...so to the cynics here who wish to condemn Look Loy without at least giving him a chance to prove his detractors wrong all I ask is... WHAT IS YOUR PLAN B?... or as President wrote, is this just another TALK-FEST... I tell people who work for me al the time, if you do not agree with my decision or stance on something, then GIVE ME A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE... otherwise PUT UP AND SHUT UP!
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More to the point, what do most of the people on this site DO for football rather than TALK about it - mostly from North America, from what I can decipher, and talk any old thing they please too because they have a computer? Let me be more explicit, INFORMED and RATIONAL opinion - agreeable or not - is one things, anything else we could do without. Do YOU leave YOUR job every time YOUR employers do something with which YOU do not agree?
this site was started by an ex pat, not a local, that is a start, the mere fact you are on the site says alot
it is the voice for TT football worldwide and is influential whether you deem it worthwhile or not.
it has a lot of people on here that have done many things for TT football abroad, more than the ttff. in fact many on here are much more capable of running football in the nation than yourself and the rest of the ttff by far but we know the bobol that will take place to keep people out of local football
that fear and resistance is the reason why our football is declining and will continue to do so. the fear of letting go for others more capable to take over
birds of a feather flock together....
one fact remains, locally they would block anything from outside in order to tighten their grip on football
it is the same story that has repeated itself throughout TT history, the local admin needs to let go and try to seek help from the outside to better their position rather than threat it as a threat, we are all trinis
people back home have no sense of unity and loyalty, or foresight, especially when coming to sport and football.
that is facts and the results show.
the old boys club will continue to destroy our football
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Not at all Deeks. I agree with much of the criticism on this site. What I do NOT agree with it the broad stroke of the brush with which almost everyone who has any relationship to the TTFF is painted and condemned. This condemnation is without knowledge of what people are doing, what they stand for, and is tantamount to guilt by association.
Specifically, the preparation of our national senior team, in terms of international matches, leaves a lot to be desired - and that's an understatement. The cancellation of the Haiti match was outrageous. The outsourcing of the national senior team's financial affairs in even more so - and it does nothing to resolve the many political, administrative and technical issues that arise from the TTFF's internal woes and weaknesses. These cannot be outsourced.
All I am saying is that people on this site - frustrated lovers of TT football, I appreciate - need to be more sober and rational in their opinions. As another example, on another thread, I see one person saying Fakoory is "a waste of time". One doesn't have to be a Fakoory acolyte, or even know the man, to appreciate the fact that he has spent millions of his own money to support the club and the game he loves over very many years - and with no financial return. Now, would the guy who so glibly condemns Fakoory spend one cent of his own cash in this way? I have serious doubts.
Not every pot that knock making music... I think you need to learn to pick sense from nonsense where it comes to this site. My initial reaction to your earlier comment is much like Deeks... vehement disagreement with the notion that outside criticism is futile. It is admirable that you appear to have backed off that stance, but by the same token you seem to be taking the opinions of a few and extrapolating them as being representative of the whole. Such broad assumptions serve only as fodder for misunderstanding.
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Not at all Deeks. I agree with much of the criticism on this site. What I do NOT agree with it the broad stroke of the brush with which almost everyone who has any relationship to the TTFF is painted and condemned. This condemnation is without knowledge of what people are doing, what they stand for, and is tantamount to guilt by association.
Specifically, the preparation of our national senior team, in terms of international matches, leaves a lot to be desired - and that's an understatement. The cancellation of the Haiti match was outrageous. The outsourcing of the national senior team's financial affairs in even more so - and it does nothing to resolve the many political, administrative and technical issues that arise from the TTFF's internal woes and weaknesses. These cannot be outsourced.
All I am saying is that people on this site - frustrated lovers of TT football, I appreciate - need to be more sober and rational in their opinions. As another example, on another thread, I see one person saying Fakoory is "a waste of time". One doesn't have to be a Fakoory acolyte, or even know the man, to appreciate the fact that he has spent millions of his own money to support the club and the game he loves over very many years - and with no financial return. Now, would the guy who so glibly condemns Fakoory spend one cent of his own cash in this way? I have serious doubts.
how about when fakoory refused to pay certain players salaries when they were struggling to feed their family?
i bet you don't know about that do you mr.president
especially after giving undying service to his club, i will leave it as that.
have you spent a cent of your own cash for the ttff and towards TT football?
or did you just collect money from the govt through the ttff and claim to make a difference with the money of our citizens?
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Whether or not Mr President is Keith Look Loy, or someone very close to him is significant to this site. It serves as a reminder to us all, that this forum is considered to be the voice of T&T supporters, and also worthy of reading by those who wish to ascertain the "feelings on the streets".
Therefore, at times, we should all recognise the role that we are playing in the potential metamorphasis of T&T football. So we should speak with respect. We are not a bunch of children on facebook. We have been afforded an opportunity to investigate the real Keith Look Loy, so instead of aggression and insults, maybe we should be trying to discover if this man really can help to change football.
I do not know Keith Look Loy, and I don't know too much about his track record other than the work he's done at Santa Rosa (which seems very professional). But he certainly comes across as intelligent. Its understandable that people here may not trust him. His words hold good intentions, but we've been lied to before, so we're not holding our breaths. But we've been crying out for change for a very long time. Can he really do much worse than Camps & Co?
One strong indicator is that forces behind the scenes don't seem to want Look Loy to take control. On the basis that the enemy of your enemy is your friend, maybe we should give the guy a chance?
At least on this site, we should be asking him serious questions. It appears some people here have a beef with Look Loy. But how much of this is based on fact? How much of this is based on distant events when a much younger man made mistakes? How much of this is based on rumour and chinese whispers?
Now is your chance to find out the truth (or at least his version of the truth). We have no idea if Look Loy can bring positive changes, but we're damn certain the current TTFF administration won't.
Respect yourselves, by giving at least a little respect to him, listen and then make your judgement.
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Better words were never spoken FS...
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I think Keith Look Loy is a pretty decent guy and you should should focus on the road ahead and not talk about some stupid incident 30 years ago (if it even happened).... that's irrelevant...
I wish Keith all the best.
He must however understand that he gets a bad rep because of the people he associate with, birds of a feather flock together; and that is a true saying because if he didn't like what was going on in the TTFF he would have left a long time ago.
T&T football biggest problems is NOT Keith Look Loy.
Its Oliver Camps, Richard Gorden, Jamal Shabaaz, Alvin and Anton Corneal, Cheryl Abrams and the king pin Jack Warner.
I wish Keith all the best, I know he can do better, but he must distance himself in a smart way from these other guys who dont have a heart for our football.
I know Cheryl Abrams very well, and she can be very conniving.
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East boss Watson seeks re-election
Saturday, August 20 2011
LENNOX WATSON will be seeking re-election as president of the Eastern Football Association (EFA).
But he will be challenged by Keith Look Loy when the election process takes place on Thursday, during the EFA’s annual general meeting, at the Nelson Mandela Hall, Dr Joao Havelange Centre of Excellence, Macoya, Tunapuna.
In Watson’s camp will be Wayne Cunningham and Carl Joseph who will be seeking to be vice-presidents, while Neil Mollineau will be seeking the assistant secretary, administration and Joseph Romeo assistant secretary operations positions.
Look Loy’s group of nominees comprises Roger Griffith and Frank Rodriguez (vice-presidents), Farlon Thomas and Anil Maraj, committee members.
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East boss Watson seeks re-election
Saturday, August 20 2011
LENNOX WATSON will be seeking re-election as president of the Eastern Football Association (EFA).
But he will be challenged by Keith Look Loy when the election process takes place on Thursday, during the EFA’s annual general meeting, at the Nelson Mandela Hall, Dr Joao Havelange Centre of Excellence, Macoya, Tunapuna.
In Watson’s camp will be Wayne Cunningham and Carl Joseph who will be seeking to be vice-presidents, while Neil Mollineau will be seeking the assistant secretary, administration and Joseph Romeo assistant secretary operations positions.
Look Loy’s group of nominees comprises Roger Griffith and Frank Rodriguez (vice-presidents), Farlon Thomas and Anil Maraj, committee members.
Note, they still listing Griffith.
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Griffith has consistently confirmed his membership in Look Loy's slate, and rank and file Prisons Sports Club members have confirmed their support for the slate as well. The problem is the top brass who have ties to the incumbent EFA president, Lennox Watson, an ex-Prisons brass himself.
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Keith Look Loy was interviewed by Andre Baptiste a few minutes ago. He is saying all the things that we clamour for on this forum day in, day out and that is the old guard at the regional associations need to go in order for change at the TTFF to take place.
Of course he said what we all know. That the persons running the EFA are not interested in the development of football but just want to hold on to power. He said for example, minutes of association meetings are not recorded and when they are requested, the President simply laughs off the requests.
He said that his challenge may cost him his place at the TTFF but that is the sacrifice he is willing to make. In response to the question why challenge now, he said that he has tried to stay out of the politics at the TTFF and the regional level and concentrate on the technical side of football but feels that the time is right now for the challenge to be made.
He said that he brought the maneuver to block his run for President to the media because the attempts taking place behind the scenes needed to be brought to light for all to see and hear....
Since he is willing to make the challenge that we all recognise as what is necessary to bring about change, I can't do anything else but support him in his bid. If he succeeds and then do foolishness too, ah goh bash him at that point........
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Better words were never spoken FS...
Haha... of course yuh go like dat one, lol.
but agreed... I think the best point was that if they trying so hard to fight him down from de inside, then they obviously see him as a threat. If the crooks see yuh as a threat then that is a good sign. good post FS :beermug:
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Keith Look Loy was interviewed by Andre Baptiste a few minutes ago. He is saying all the things that we clamour for on this forum day in, day out and that is the old guard at the regional associations need to go in order for change at the TTFF to take place.
Of course he said what we all know. That the persons running the EFA are not interested in the development of football but just want to hold on to power. He said for example, minutes of association meetings are not recorded and when they are requested, the President simply laughs off the requests.
He said that his challenge may cost him his place at the TTFF but that is the sacrifice he is willing to make. In response to the question why challenge now, he said that he has tried to stay out of the politics at the TTFF and the regional level and concentrate on the technical side of football but feels that the time is right now for the challenge to be made.
He said that he brought the maneuver to block his run for President to the media because the attempts taking place behind the scenes needed to be brought to light for all to see and hear....
Since he is willing to make the challenge that we all recognise as what is necessary to bring about change, I can't do anything else but support him in his bid. If he succeeds and then do foolishness too, ah goh bash him at that point........
:thumbsup:
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Better words were never spoken FS...
Haha... of course yuh go like dat one, lol.
but agreed... I think the best point was that if they trying so hard to fight him down from de inside, then they obviously see him as a threat. If the crooks see yuh as a threat then that is a good sign. good post FS :beermug:
Or "tief doh like tuh see tief with long bag".
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I WANT A TABLA RASA TTFF. Nobody who serving now I WANT AROUND.
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Or "tief doh like tuh see tief with long bag".
I thought about that... but I doh know that Look Loy "tief" so dai'z why ah didn't say it.
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Or "tief doh like tuh see tief with long bag".
I thought about that... but I doh know that Look Loy "tief" so dai'z why ah didn't say it.
Not really saying he tief, don't think he did, "game recognize game" (maybe more appropriate).
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Not really saying he tief, don't think he did, "game recognize game" (maybe more appropriate).
True... from de time Look Loy responded to the forum in that thread where we was talking abou Keith Aqui and the HU suit against the NCAA, I start to look at him in a different light. I think what he says has merit, his focus was more on the technical side rather than the administrative. Yeah the technical advisers pop dung too, but as suggested by LP's subsequent comments, they were hamstrung by the administrative. Just because his technical committee "failed" that don't mean Look Loy can't be a competent administrator. In the least he's earned the right for fans to give him a legitimate shot, rather than shooting him down without taking a look at what he has to offer. At worst, he can do no worse than what we have now.
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Adolph Hitler - Chief Idiot :devil: Fuhrer: Third Reich
Leader of the German People
Chief Idiot of the Aryan Race
Ultimate Ku Klux Klansman
General Skin Head
OxyMoron
General Racist
Ultimate Hater of Millions of People
Fearless Leader of the following Idiots:
Heinrich Himmler
Reichsführer SS
Chief of German Police
Minister of the Interior
Chief of the replacement Army
Rudolf Hess - General
Also Deputy-Führer of the NSDAP until 1941
Adolf Eichmann - General
Head of the Gestapo's Sub-Office of Resettlement and later head of the Office of Jewish Affairs under RSHA Amt IV Gestapo and officially known as sub-department Referat IV B4. Austin J. Warner, former treasurer and once special advisor to the TTFF, became one of the most powerful men in all of the Caribbean and also Vice President of the all powerful FIFA, ruled by the one and only Sepp Blatter.
Joseph Goebbels - One of Adolf Hitler's closest associates and most devout followers, he was known for his zealous oratory and anti-Semitism. Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda throughout the Third Reich and World War II. Named Chancellor of the Reich in Hitler's will, a position he held for only one day before his own suicide. This sounds like Richard Groden, Secretary of the TTFF.
Hermann Göring - He was Hitler's designated successor (until expelled from office in April 1945), and commander of the Luftwaffe (German Air Force). As Reichsmarschall he was the highest-ranking military officer in the Third Reich; he was also the sole holder of the Grand Cross of the Iron Cross. He was sentenced to death by the Nuremburg Tribunal but committed suicide before he could be hanged. He was a veteran of the First World War as an ace fighter pilot, a participant in the Beer Hall Putsch, and the founder of the Gestapo. Could Darryll Warner be the designated successor to the throne and family heir loom called the TTFF presidency.
Franz Gürtner - Minister of Justice responsible for co-ordinating jurisprudence in the Third Reich. Could this idiot and the judge presiding over the Soca Warriors case against the TTFF and Jack Warner have the same kinds of similarities?
Martin Luther - advisor to Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop, and participant in the infamous Wannsee Conference.
Erwin Raus AKA "ROMMEL"
He is Hitler's general in the purely literal sense of the term. He rose because he was tough and
determined and because he contrived to get himself into the thick of affairs at a period when stress and change were everywhere and Hitler was looking for clever sword-sharpeners to help him further his own ruthless ends. Shares some similarities with Richard Groden's role in the now infamous Soca Warriors of 2006 scandal.
Hitler has always needed men like Rommel. Jack and Oliver needed men like Richard Groden.
It was in 1922, on a Sunday morning, when a few hundred
storm troopers under Rommel's leadership arrived at the small north Bavarian town of Coburg. Now he had a chance to 'play at strategy'. He surrounded the town, sent parties of shock troops into the streets, beat up the citizens who were just about to go to church, locked the local police in their own station, and then made everybody appear in the market square, where in the meantime Hitler had arrived. Just an example of his foolish ruthlessness.
Rommel soon saw that a continuation of his activity as an organiser for Hitler's mass meetings under storm trooper 'protection'would at best get him a higher rank in that organisation. Groden is still the Secretary.
General Dan Pienaar, the Commander of the South African
Springboks in the Middle East theatre, once said of Rommel,
'I don't consider him clever or cunning, but he is determined and tenacious'. Ah Richard, that fits you to a "T".
Austin "Jack" Warner (born January 26, 1943) is a Trinidad and Tobago football executive, businessman, and politician. Warner held the offices of Vice president of FIFA and President of CONCACAF until his suspension and eventual resignation from these roles in 2011. He was also the Minister of Works and Transport of Trinidad and Tobago, but still is an elected member of that country's parliament. A former school teacher (history), he is the owner of Joe Public F.C., a professional football club based in Tunapuna, Trinidad and Tobago. His son Darryll, runs the day to day affairs of the club which is in all likelihood a front to the money laundering that hides and protects the millions of dollars passing through the Warner's small scrubby hands. No no, Austin doesn't fall under Adolph's regime. Austin falls under history.
Oliver Camps - Defacto President of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation. Stooge of Austin Jack Warner, former Vice President of FIFA, current Minister of Works, oh wait, or is it, Transportation. It doesn't matter to this author. Man of a hundred letters or less, unable to leap a building in a single bound, slower than a rolling donut, and has a half-inch vertical leap. Wants to make us believe that he could raise funds on his own. Unable to throw a sucker punch. Is referred to as Uncle Ollie by Anil Roberts. I wish you would motherf#@*&r.
Vice Presidents : TIM KEE Raymond, THOMAS Rudolph,WATSON Lennox
General Secretary : GRODEN Richard
Treasurer : RUDOLPH Thomas, next in line to be president of the dysfunctional TTFF.
Keith Look Loy - So called Technical Advisor to the TTFF.
Defacto Henchman of FC Santa Claus
FC Santa Rosa has a Board of Directors comprising five persons, including the President and Club Secretary/Treasurer. The President is also the club’s Chief Executive Officer.
The Club has eight staff coaches. All have received formal training from FIFA, CONCACAF, the TTFF, the Brazilian Football Academy, the English FA, the German FA (DFB), the Dutch FA (KNVB), or some combination thereof. The formal education and training of the staff is one of the Club’s permanent priorities. Wait, where is the club going with all this coaching knowledge?
Keith Look Loy – President and CEO
Academic qualifications: M.A. (Sociology); M.A. (History)
Professional qualifications: English FA, Brasilian Football Academy, UEFA and NSCAA certificates. FIFA Football Committee member
I beg to ask this question. Why oh why isn't FC Santa Rosa the club that every young footballer in TnT flocking to like roaches to a poisonous gel?
Alphonse Gabriel "Al" Capone was an American gangster who led a Prohibition-era crime syndicate.
Despite his illegitimate occupation, Capone became a highly visible public figure. He made various charitable endeavors using the money he made from his activities, and was viewed by many to be a "modern-day Robin Hood".
Pablo Emilio Escobar Gaviria aka Pablo Escobar Jr. was a Colombian drug lord. Often referred to as the "World's Greatest Outlaw", he was the most elusive cocaine trafficker ever to have lived. He is regarded as the richest and most successful criminal in world history.
Escobar was responsible for the construction of many hospitals, schools and churches in western Colombia, which gained him popularity inside the local Roman Catholic Church. He worked hard to cultivate his "Robin Hood" image, and frequently distributed money to the poor through housing projects and other civic activities, which gained him notable popularity among the poor
What is wrong or what is right with this picture?
So, which one of these characters do you listen to? Joseph Goebbels was one of the best. His rhetoric killed millions. Look Loy will run a marathon distant third at best in terms of convincing the gullables of what he can do or what the others will not let him do. Or maybe it's Camps who can do the job because if he can't then nobody else can. Then there is Rommel with his do or die attitude, a man that Groden fashion his attitude towards the 2006 Soca Warriors after. According to history, you know where that got him, if you don't know then you can always do your research. Then there is the rest of them and they are no slouches by the looks of things. I mean Hitler became leader of the Third Reich, and Goebbels, Goring, and even Eva Braun fell for and believed in this idiot. Where would Austin fit in? My guess? He would be battling Goebbels for the position as propoganda minister.
Keith Look Loy? Mr. Look Loy is, for the most part, one of Austin's imps. He shut up when Mr. Austin was running the brown envelopes and strong arming people. It was according to Mr. Warner either you do things my way or you hit the highway. Mr Look Loy was and for the most part doing things Austin's way. Mr. Look Loy had a chance to distance himself from the shananigans. Why didn't he? Did Mr Warner hold a gun to his head? Was his family threatened? What happened here? Some people rightfully asked questions and no one has answered them yet? You and your staff at FC Santa Rosa, Mr Look Loy, have all these qualifications and yet the club is not making any noise that anyone in the nation can speak of. Something is wrong here. Yet, Mr Camps is paying you to be the technical advisor to the TTFF. You joking? This is not a joke Mr. Look Loy. Now you are running for EFA president and you are soliciting the sympathy of the masses in TnT. Be very aware people. Be very aware.
What do the idiots I have listed above have to do with this? Well, if you didn't disassociate yourself from the Third Reich at any time in history, you are considered an associate of the most heinous and most hated man in history depending on which side of the globe you happen to be living on and also the race of people you happen to derive from. If Austin J. Warner was a part of the Third Reich, a general in the SS division, and Keith Look Loy worked with him, would you still be saying the blessings that you are bestowing upon him now? Or would you do some research on this man to find out more about him?
Now for those of you who missed the word "worked", I highlighted that particular word for a reason. It means "in the past". So you are thinking that Look Loy is your knight in shinning armor. Is he really?. One of Austin's imps.
I remain skeptical and probably one of the few, but like somebody once told me, "Be patient Deese, be patient". Just sit and watch my brother, just sit and watch.
Why or why not?
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So let me get this right: Look Loy=Goebbels(guilty of unspeakable crimes against humanity and GENOCIDE)=Capone(psychotic mass MURDERER)=Escobar(international drug over lord, mass MURDERER, and guilty of transforming more than one country into a narco-state)? Are you insane?
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So let me get this right: Look Loy=Goebbels(guilty of unspeakable crimes against humanity and GENOCIDE)=Capone(psychotic mass MURDERER)=Escobar(international drug over lord, mass MURDERER, and guilty of transforming more than one country into a narco-state)? Are you insane?
I don't know where these guys does come from. :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Griffith has consistently confirmed his membership in Look Loy's slate, and rank and file Prisons Sports Club members have confirmed their support for the slate as well. The problem is the top brass who have ties to the incumbent EFA president, Lennox Watson, an ex-Prisons brass himself.
Watson is a person that does not need to be in a position such as he is.
Isn't Frank Rodriguez is/was a Prisons Officer also?
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Look Loy's slate includes TWO Prisons officers - Griffith and Rodriguez - and that's the point. The Prisons SC members are FED UP of Watson, Ferguson and their cabal who do NOTHING for football. The other members of his slate come from the other clubs. He has also publicly stated his intention to form three committees that will comprise club representatives and professionals: 1) Finance and Marketing, which would supervise the EFA's finances and ensure transparency, 2) Media and Public Relations, to guide the EFA's relationships with the public, and 3) Technical, which would oversee the EFA's technical development initiatives. Two attorneys, and two media professionals have already committed themselves to participate in these committees.
THIS, is People's Democracy. THIS, is a progressive agenda. Of course, the man has to win the election. Based on the promised votes he will. However, too many people TALK about change but when you get to the nitty gritties they are more comfortable with the status quo for ALL kind of personal reasons. We shall soon see.
(BTW, Watson and company have been forced by public pressure exerted from the opposition camp to accept Prisons secondment of Look Loy's slate. Look Loy has now called for the election to be deferred to from Thursday 25 August at 7 PM to Sunday 28 August at 10 AM, in order to ensure the physical safety of clubs representatives and the fullest possible attendance).
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President you forgot to add that while Lookloy was banned it was Gally Cummings who gave him a chance to re enter the national football scene when no one wanted to touch him with a ten foot pole! Instead of being grateful he has undermined him at every level! What an ingratiate! He is not Presidential material. All talk and no real success!
We need some new blood and young blood at that!
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Gally Cummings had nothing to do with it. Indeed, the fact that he was TD at the time was purely coincidental. - if that matters in any way at all. The essential point is that man clearly doesn't pay homage to personalities. He is loyal to the football development PROCESS, which is OBJECTIVE and impersonal. Some of you people need to understand that the TTFF simply DOES NOT respond to criticism leveled from the outside.
Say what you want, it is the consistent effort of people like Look Loy, Shabaaz, Corneal, and others working from the INSIDE that has resulted in TnT qualifying for Korea Under 17, Egypt Under 20, the establishment of a national youth league, regional development centres and a coaching education programme. These are FACTS that even your skewed view cannot make disappear.
A little respect goes a LONG way...
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You are speaking like Loolloy ! Self praise is no praise! You are actually crediting Corneal for something ! Such a big loser! You must be the biggest Joker in Towm!
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Right. Your response to an attempt to argue logically is to ridicule. OK pal...
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Respect...
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As I recall President, Lookloy was fired twice by jack from Joe Public and as a coach from the national team! I used to follow colleges league and I recall Lookloy hanging around the Malick team as an assistant and it was Franco a teacher at malick and a member of Harvard who was the main man! Look Loy is is an opportunist and very dishonest!
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Gally Cummings had nothing to do with it. Indeed, the fact that he was TD at the time was purely coincidental. - if that matters in any way at all. The essential point is that man clearly doesn't pay homage to personalities. He is loyal to the football development PROCESS, which is OBJECTIVE and impersonal. Some of you people need to understand that the TTFF simply DOES NOT respond to criticism leveled from the outside.
Say what you want, it is the consistent effort of people like Look Loy, Shabaaz, Corneal, and others working from the INSIDE that has resulted in TnT qualifying for Korea Under 17, Egypt Under 20, the establishment of a national youth league, regional development centres and a coaching education programme. These are FACTS that even your skewed view cannot make disappear.
A little respect goes a LONG way...
Yuh was starting to win me over, but when you include Shabazz in there you just lost me. If these are the people Look Loy will keep around then nothing going to change.
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I believe honesty is the best policy! I am old school! Is there any way you can get a follow up interview with Gally on the issue of his experience of Lool Loy as a national junior coach! If these are the people who want to present themselves t o maintain the status quo and be administrators on the national landscape ,we need to hear from all sides and let the football public be the judge!
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Gally Cummings had nothing to do with it. Indeed, the fact that he was TD at the time was purely coincidental. - if that matters in any way at all. The essential point is that man clearly doesn't pay homage to personalities. He is loyal to the football development PROCESS, which is OBJECTIVE and impersonal. Some of you people need to understand that the TTFF simply DOES NOT respond to criticism leveled from the outside.
Say what you want, it is the consistent effort of people like Look Loy, Shabaaz, Corneal, and others working from the INSIDE that has resulted in TnT qualifying for Korea Under 17, Egypt Under 20, the establishment of a national youth league, regional development centres and a coaching education programme. These are FACTS that even your skewed view cannot make disappear.
A little respect goes a LONG way...
Constructive or otherwise....underscoring the richly deserved perception that the administration/soon to be former administration is an elitist cabal and does not give a damn about players or fans. And with all the purported internal critique brought to bear not exactly bearing a whole lot of fruit either, this type of self policing/secrecy should be discarded. Anyone coming with a more open approach to communications will run the risk of open criticism, but in the long run it will be of far greater benefit to fan and federation alike.
The work put in by the TTFF to get to 4 world cups in five years is admirable and unrivalled in the CFU. But the near collaspe of the professional game in T&T and the pronounciation of the TTFF as the worst run sport administration in the country from Jack Warner's fellow cabinet minister can't be brushed off either. If the Bermuda game is going to have similar level of fan support to the India game, then you will know what the average man thinks of the TTFF.
So kudos to Mr. Look Loy and/or presidential representatives for showing up to endure the cuss and pent up anger on the forum :devil: It will pay dividends. But that respect will not neccessarily be extended to others who choose to keep the lines of communication closed.
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President you forgot to add that while Lookloy was banned it was Gally Cummings who gave him a chance to re enter the national football scene when no one wanted to touch him with a ten foot pole! Instead of being grateful he has undermined him at every level! What an ingratiate! He is not Presidential material. All talk and no real success!
We need some new blood and young blood at that!
Six a one haf a dozen of the odder. If you speaking about dishonest then Gally also up there with the best. The hogwash that pass as an answer for the Nakhid incident is exactly that, hogwash.. Having said that I would hope that Look Loy and co, if and when they get into power, would put in a JW clause in the constitution. that Clause would put the brakes on any individual trying to be T&T's god to football. the fact that i have to support Look loy, a Saints boy like myself, tells me that there is a very significant dearth of leadership talent in T&T. Half a loaf is better than none.
ps: sad day when we still have to mention the shabazzes and corneals when we speak about football in T&T. One can only live in hope.
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Having said that I would hope that Look Loy and co, if and when they get into power, would put in a JW clause in the constitution. that Clause would put the brakes on any individual trying to be T&T's god to football.
I don't know how they can put a clause like that in the constitution. The many legal minds on this forum can give their insight to this. For a Jack Warner type situation not to happen again, is to give the power back to the clubs and not the zone associations. This has made the clubs weak and the head of the zone assocation being easier to be manipulated. This time around I hope the clubs reps. behave in a more mature manner than those of the early Jack Warner era.
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Sub1 By saying you are a saints boy are you saying you are supporting past students in spite of any shortcomings? That is not very objective is it? These saints boys you are supporting have a track record of malfeasance that is open for public scrutiny. Some of us have short memories and try to cover up serious incidences and pretend as if they never happen ! They are not simple errors or wrong decisions which we all make but matters which speak to serious flaws which make them unsuitable for national positions! We have so many problems in the country , give us a break nah! If you have saints boys which I am sure there are nominate them but not this bunch who have been rejected by the national community!
Mediocrity has been triumphing for too long which has taken us where we are today!
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UPDATE.
RE: The government of Trinidad and Tobago has declared a limited state of emergency across selected areas of Trinidad, which includes much of the Eastern Football Ass sociation’s area of jurisdiction. Said state of emergency includes a curfew between the hours of 9:00PM and 4:00 AM.
In the interest of our members physical safety and, clearly, the democratic process that would be served by the fullest possible attendance of our clubs, I hereby re quest the postponement of the Annual General Meeting, including the election of officers, to Sunday 28 August, from 10:00AM at the Mandela Hall, CONCACAF Centre of Excellence.
Best regards,
Keith Look Loy.
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Having said that I would hope that Look Loy and co, if and when they get into power, would put in a JW clause in the constitution. that Clause would put the brakes on any individual trying to be T&T's god to football.
I don't know how they can put a clause like that in the constitution. The many legal minds on this forum can give their insight to this. For a Jack Warner type situation not to happen again, is to give the power back to the clubs and not the zone associations. This has made the clubs weak and the head of the zone assocation being easier to be manipulated. This time around I hope the clubs reps. behave in a more mature manner than those of the early Jack Warner era.
I am really speaking about term limits.....I know, Trinbagonians/West Indians dont know the meaning of those two words. you better off telling any leader from the caribbean hmc or mf or.....well you get my drift
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Having said that I would hope that Look Loy and co, if and when they get into power, would put in a JW clause in the constitution. that Clause would put the brakes on any individual trying to be T&T's god to football.
I don't know how they can put a clause like that in the constitution. The many legal minds on this forum can give their insight to this. For a Jack Warner type situation not to happen again, is to give the power back to the clubs and not the zone associations. This has made the clubs weak and the head of the zone assocation being easier to be manipulated. This time around I hope the clubs reps. behave in a more mature manner than those of the early Jack Warner era.
I am really speaking about term limits.....I know, Trinbagonians/West Indians dont know the meaning of those two words. you better off telling any leader from the caribbean hmc or mf or.....well you get my drift
I, and I guess the entire forum would welcome term limits. That would be a step in the right directions. 2 four year term and out seems good enough for me.
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Look Loy has promised to pursue the introduction of two constitutional measures if he is successful in the EFA election: 1) a limit of two terms in office for all TTFF positions, and 2) establishment of an independent electoral committee to oversee elections at all levels of the TTFF.
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I, and I guess the entire forum would welcome term limits. That would be a step in the right directions. 2 four year term and out seems good enough for me.
:thumbsup:
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EFA election will go ahead as planned.
T&T Guardian Reports.
The Annual General Meeting (AGM) and election for the Eastern Football Association (EFA) will go ahead as planned despite a request from president of FC Santa Rosa Keith Look Loy.
On Monday Look Loy, who is a candidate for presidency of the EFA, wrote to the secretary of the EFA requesting that the AGM be postponed because of the limited state of emergency and curfew in Trinidad and Tobago.
Look Loy’s club is asking that consideration be given to changing the meeting to this Sunday morning at 10 am. The EFA annual general meeting is set for tomorrow at 7 pm at the Nelson Madela Hall, Centre of Excellence, Macoya.
According to Look Loy, the request has been sent to facilitate those (clubs) affected by the curfew (9 pm to 5 am) which came as a result of the recently declared limited state of emergency.
When contacted, member of the EFA who will be running for the post of Vice President—Wayne Cunningham said that nothing has changed.
“I spoke to a person from one club who lives as far as Brazil and he was also fine with the original arrangements and I spoke to six other persons from their clubs who were also fine with the arrangement,” said Cunningham.
He continued saying, “In all fairness, it is up to the clubs. I will be in contact with them and will likely have spoken to all representatives by the date, but thus far, nothing has changed.” Look Loy will be contesting the post of president against incumbent Lennox Watson at the meeting on Sunday.
Two weeks ago, Look Loy who is also president of FC Santa Rosa announced his candidacy for president of the EFA along with Roger Griffith for vice-president, Frank Rodriguez for second vice-president and Farlon Thomas and Anil Maraj of the EFA.
Current president Watson, Vice-presidents Wayne Cunningham and Carl Joseph and assistant secretaries Neil Mollineau (Administration) and Joseph Romeo (Operations) have been nominated and are again contesting for the respective posts.
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The position of the outgoing executive committee is reckless in an outrageous degree. The TTFF has changed the time of the WCQ match against Bermuda from 7:00PM to 4:30PM in order to allow fans to leave the stadium for home at 6:30PM, more or less, yet the EFA is demanding that club representatives attend the AGM, including the election of officers, from 7:00PM. Their hope is that the attendance will be low, that their opponents' supporters will stay away due to concern regarding personal safety, and that they will have the votes to return themselves to office.
Look Loy has today issued an advisory to all EFA clubs indicating his camp has information that the outgoing executive will house their supporters in the Sportel (the hotel at the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence, where the election will take place) when the curfew descends. To hell with the rest. These people have no regard for football, and now they are clearly showing equal disregard for the people's personal safety.
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The position of the outgoing executive committee is reckless in an outrageous degree. The TTFF has changed the time of the WCQ match against Bermuda from 7:00PM to 4:30PM in order to allow fans to leave the stadium for home at 6:30PM, more or less, yet the EFA is demanding that club representatives attend the AGM, including the election of officers, from 7:00PM. Their hope is that the attendance will be low, that their opponents' supporters will stay away due to concern regarding personal safety, and that they will have the votes to return themselves to office.
Look Loy has today issued an advisory to all EFA clubs indicating his camp has information that the outgoing executive will house their supporters in the Sportel (the hotel at the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence, where the election will take place) when the curfew descends. To hell with the rest. These people have no regard for football, and now they are clearly showing equal disregard for the people's personal safety.
Hardly seems fair ...but this is what Look Loy has been part of for yearssssss ! elections in mayaro beach etc. haven't we heard it all ?? I agree it seems like a cook up but Look Loy should not be agrieved he should know how to get things done ....... fight fire with fire ...book in your supportres nearby too ! .... Thing is ...I cant forget that he stayed silent for so long when he knew or aught to have known of all the transgressions taking place over the years , not the least of which is the blacklisting of national players , taking our country's football to our lowest ebb , ......... now he is the beacon of democracy and fair play ?
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The position of the outgoing executive committee is reckless in an outrageous degree. The TTFF has changed the time of the WCQ match against Bermuda from 7:00PM to 4:30PM in order to allow fans to leave the stadium for home at 6:30PM, more or less, yet the EFA is demanding that club representatives attend the AGM, including the election of officers, from 7:00PM. Their hope is that the attendance will be low, that their opponents' supporters will stay away due to concern regarding personal safety, and that they will have the votes to return themselves to office.
Look Loy has today issued an advisory to all EFA clubs indicating his camp has information that the outgoing executive will house their supporters in the Sportel (the hotel at the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence, where the election will take place) when the curfew descends. To hell with the rest. These people have no regard for football, and now they are clearly showing equal disregard for the people's personal safety.
Hardly seems fair ...but this is what Look Loy has been part of for yearssssss ! elections in mayaro beach etc. haven't we heard it all ?? I agree it seems like a cook up but Look Loy should not be agrieved he should know how to get things done ....... fight fire with fire ...book in your supportres nearby too ! .... Thing is ...I cant forget that he stayed silent for so long when he knew or aught to have known of all the transgressions taking place over the years , not the least of which is the blacklisting of national players , taking our country's football to our lowest ebb , ......... now he is the beacon of democracy and fair play ?
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..."this is what Look Loy has been part of for yearssssss ! elections in mayaro beach etc."...
Is that right? Says who? You? On the basis of what? The abuse of democracy at the regional association level is the result of club inertia and disinterest. It requires member clubs to act on their own behalf and not just accept whatever their "leaders" do (or not, as the case might be). And where are the squeaky clean new leaders to come from? The alternatives are stark and simple: continue what you have now, or choose to break with the past and create something new.
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Mr President, the point is a fair one. Keith Look Loy's Santa Rosa F.C. have been able to put forward a candidate and attract support for a number of years, but this has not happened, and chaos reigned. Now he is trying to run, he's outraged.
On the other side of the coin, maybe he didn't feel he wanted the position until now when he feels enough is enough?
The point is, people here have the right to ask "where was Keith look Loy before and why didn't he act?" Its up to Look Loy to explain (if he cares too) why now is the time for him to speak out.
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FC Santa Rosa joined the EFA in 2010 and won the first division, with promotion to the premier division. Those club representatives that attend tell you that he has conducted an ongoing struggle for democracy and proper administration from the floor of the EFA.
I maintain my position: don't accuse someone of not doing something because you don't know they are doing it.
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Let me also add: Look Loy is on WI Sports (TT cable Channel 14) tonight at 8:00...
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..."this is what Look Loy has been part of for yearssssss ! elections in mayaro beach etc."...
Is that right? Says who? You? On the basis of what? The abuse of democracy at the regional association level is the result of club inertia and disinterest. It requires member clubs to act on their own behalf and not just accept whatever their "leaders" do (or not, as the case might be). And where are the squeaky clean new leaders to come from? The alternatives are stark and simple: continue what you have now, or choose to break with the past and create something new.
Why the either/or situation? This is reminiscent of JW and the present bunch, presenting to the country limited choices or making them feel that these are the only choices available to them. I am sure there are many "squeaky clean" people out there who are willing to lift the load, but secrecy and cronyism keep them away.
More and more as you post I am getting a darker and darker outlook from Look Loy. Why questioning him or his past involvement in football a bad thing? If he is so much for democracy then he should welcome this scrutiny showing the people that he is open and there is nothing to hide.
People must be diligent about who they lend their allegiance to as JW and now the PP has wounded people's trust greatly. Therefore, the onus is on any would-be candidate to soothe people's distrust by meeting their needs and inquiries. Not so?
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Come one people. The point is that Look Loy worked in the TTFF. Had issues and made criticism within the organization and NOT via the public media - as our politicians are won't to do regarding their own organizations - and is now speaking out. What's the problem with that? Everyone is looking suspiciously at his relationship to the TTFF. OK. That's fine. Has anyone on SWO looked at the programme he has proposed - which addresses the ills of the regional association, and which many EFA clubs are now hoping he and his team will be able to implement? Come on people...
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Come one people. The point is that Look Loy worked in the TTFF. Had issues and made criticism within the organization and NOT via the public media - as our politicians are won't to do regarding their own organizations - and is now speaking out. What's the problem with that? Everyone is looking suspiciously at his relationship to the TTFF. OK. That's fine. Has anyone on SWO looked at the programme he has proposed - which addresses the ills of the regional association, and which many EFA clubs are now hoping he and his team will be able to implement? Come on people...
Again, you seem to not be understanding the cautiousness of the people to not just support someone moving into such a position. This is a classic sign of the current administration - willing the masses to see it their way but not look at it from the people's viewpoint. This is not good.
Yes, he has proposed and put forth many good ideas and initiatives. However, that's not enough to convince the masses that he will be any different from the previous/current lot. When man looking for it, they will say do anything to get it and when they get it, sometimes it's hard luck for others.
Understanding, people lack of trust in the administration and any incoming administrator is tantamount to receiving support from fans............and sponsors I would imagine. People will be skeptical until he has shown himself to be true to "the cause".
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Please, I understand all of the cautiousness and even cynicism, but it appears working with the TTFF is a death sentence. How does one PROVE one's capacity if not by engaging in a task - i.e. to be specific, occupying the position of EFA president and doing the work?
Let me tell you, if people are waiting for anyone who is entirely NEW to football to come in and save the federation, that's futile. The organizational structure and politics don't work like that. One has to come through one of the regional associations or associated bodies, e.g. the SSFL. Anyone who gets to that level is open to criticism. Then again only those who have never done anything are absolved from criticism, and even so...
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I will encourage all who are able to vote to vote for look loy's crew. Give him a chance to fail. Heaven knows the huge failures that are already running the show. Could Look loy be any worse? I doubt it.
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I will encourage all who are able to vote to vote for look loy's crew. Give him a chance to fail. Heaven knows the huge failures that are already running the show. Could Look loy be any worse? I doubt it.
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Colleagues,
It has come to our attention the outgoing EFA executive committee has been assuring club representatives that the Annual General Election, including the election of officers, "WILL NOT LAST MORE THAN HALF HOUR".
We have also been reliably informed that the outgoing executive is insisting on holding the AGM tomorrow night at 7:00PM because A PLAN HAS BEEN LAID TO HOUSE THEIR SUPPORTERS AT THE SPORTEL, CONCACAF Centre of Excellence, WHEN THE CURFEW ARRIVES AT 9:00PM.
I have twice now requested the outgoing executive to postpone of the AGM to Sunday 28 August at 10:00AM out of respect for democracy and personal safety. They have not responded other than to acknowledge my first request. This morning a statement was made by one of their members in the Trinidad Guardian to the effect that the curfew is not an issue. This is recklessness of the highest degree. I have since requested the TTFF to direct the outgoing executive to defer the meeting.
We will be in touch with all concerned regarding any development in this regard.
Also, it is reported that at least one club is attempting to pay its 2011 registration fee, which would allow it to vote. the EFA office has been closed for much of the last several days. This is another ruse to undermine the democratic process.
LET US PREPARE TO ARRIVE AT MANDELA HALL BY 6:30PM TOMORROW UNLESS THEY CHANGE THE DATE. WE MUST BE PRESENT TO PREVENT THEIR TRICKERY AND ALLOW DEMOCRACY TO BE SERVED - HOW EVER THE CLUBS WISH TO VOTE.
Remember, the team that represents progressive change is:
- Roger GRIFFITH
- Frank RODRIGUEZ
- Fallon THOMAS
- Anil MARAJ
- Keith LOOK LOY
Regards.
Keith Look Loy
Candidate for the EFA presidency
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Good Luck to Keith Look Loy and his slate! The price of freedom is eternal vigilance!!!
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1. Mr. Look Loy is on WI Local Sports now on Channel 14 for local based.
2. I though I heard something on the news tonight about the elections being changed i.e. time and date being changed?? I wasn't near the TV so I didn't hear well......can some one confirm??
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Look Loy seeks a few days. (http://www.socawarriors.net/league/league-news/minor-leagues/9311-look-loy-seeks-a-few-days.html)
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Not to say what the present executive is doing is right.Isn't Look Loy one of Warner boys? We want to stamp out any and every influence Warner has on local football.
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1. Mr. Look Loy is on WI Local Sports now on Channel 14 for local based.
2. I though I heard something on the news tonight about the elections being changed i.e. time and date being changed?? I wasn't near the TV so I didn't hear well......can some one confirm??
I looked at the interview a bit this morning at 4:30 when it was airing again. I must confess that I was impressed with the way he articulated himself and the plans that he has for the EFA. I doh know if he is a Warner-boy as most here are saying, but the more he talked, is the more it sounded like is the present executive that portraying signs on of TTFFism. He spoke about the lack of accountability, transparency, development plans and future plans for T&T football.
He also went on to emphasize that his 'only' relationship with the TTFF is as a technical advisor, and he has no part in decision making, finances, accountability nor coaches/staff appointment (apart from recommending through technical analysis).
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1. Mr. Look Loy is on WI Local Sports now on Channel 14 for local based.
2. I though I heard something on the news tonight about the elections being changed i.e. time and date being changed?? I wasn't near the TV so I didn't hear well......can some one confirm??
I looked at the interview a bit this morning at 4:30 when it was airing again. I must confess that I was impressed with the way he articulated himself and the plans that he has for the EFA. I doh know if he is a Warner-boy as most here are saying, but the more he talked, is the more it sounded like is the present executive that portraying signs on of TTFFism. He spoke about the lack of accountability, transparency, development plans and future plans for T&T football.
He also went on to emphasize that his 'only' relationship with the TTFF is as a technical advisor, and he has no part in decision making, finances, accountability nor coaches/staff appointment (apart from recommending through technical analysis).
Not aayin dat d blacklist was wrong was not part of he JD either.
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I'm guessing, as we haven't heard from President, that Look Loy didn't get through? I wanted to attend tonite, but forgot my pass and didn't want to risk the curfew, but I would have liked to look these people in the eye.
As much as we may have criticisms of Look Loy, don't forget he has (eventually) done what we have been pleading for...he's spoken out against his employers, TTFF. Now his situation will be difficult if he hasn't won, because he still has to work with TTFF. I kinda feel sorry for him and I hope this doesn't deter others from stepping out of the shadows.
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I'm guessing, as we haven't heard from President, that Look Loy didn't get through? I wanted to attend tonite, but forgot my pass and didn't want to risk the curfew, but I would have liked to look these people in the eye.
As much as we may have criticisms of Look Loy, don't forget he has (eventually) done what we have been pleading for...he's spoken out against his employers, TTFF. Now his situation will be difficult if he hasn't won, because he still has to work with TTFF. I kinda feel sorry for him and I hope this doesn't deter others from stepping out of the shadows.
His situation not difficult,he himself said these are the sacrifices you have to make,feeling sorry for him will not help,if this is what we been pleading for we have to support the guy,it's simple,anybody go against their emplayers knows what to expect,why is it so difficult to understand why the TTFF around so long.
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Coops, and other SWO members, in the face of the EFA executive's refusal to defer the election to Sunday morning, Look Loy appealed to the TTFF secretariat to direct them to do so. This worked! The election will now be held on Sunday morning at the Sepp Blatter Hall of the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence from 10:00AM.
The outgoing executive have consistently demonstrated lack of concern for football, and by their attempt to force members to come out last night despite the curfew they have demonstrated their lack of concern for PEOPLE!
As far as Look Loy himself is concerned, I am sure he appreciates your sentiment but there is no need to feel sorry for him. He has said he is prepared to make the necessary sacrifices to move these people now - and those who know him know he is a man of his word.
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Good wuk! Now if this 10:00am meeting at the COE is open to the public maybe some home-based can attend and give us the low down at the who and what goings on. Seeing as local taxpayers help fund these people eh
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Anybody got a media friend or contact? Get them to attend. Sunday 28th at 10:00AM, Sepp Blatter Hall, CONCACAF Centre of Excellence. The Look Loy campaign has been promised the votes to win. NOW, the cub reps have to come and deliver if they are serious about progressive change.
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Anybody got a media friend or contact? Get them to attend. Sunday 28th at 10:00AM, Sepp Blatter Hall, CONCACAF Centre of Excellence. The Look Loy campaign has been promised the votes to win. NOW, the cub reps have to come and deliver if they are serious about progressive change.
SWO, you need to be there ?
Thanks Mr President !!!
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No problem. The Sepp Blatter Hall is on the first floor of the Indoor Facility (the two storey building that houses the gym).
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No problem. The Sepp Blatter Hall is on the first floor of the Indoor Facility (the two storey building that houses the gym).
Wonder if Jack will change that name from Sepp Blatter hall to something else now ?
At least this meeting is 10am and not 7am like the last TTFF meeting where they hoped no one would show up.
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Anybody got a media friend or contact? Get them to attend. Sunday 28th at 10:00AM, Sepp Blatter Hall, CONCACAF Centre of Excellence. The Look Loy campaign has been promised the votes to win. NOW, the cub reps have to come and deliver if they are serious about progressive change.
Anybody could just go?? Ah mean, say I know ah friend who knows ah friend who wants to go..... ;)
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Anybody got a media friend or contact? Get them to attend. Sunday 28th at 10:00AM, Sepp Blatter Hall, CONCACAF Centre of Excellence. The Look Loy campaign has been promised the votes to win. NOW, the cub reps have to come and deliver if they are serious about progressive change.
Anybody could just go?? Ah mean, say I know ah friend who knows ah friend who wants to go..... ;)
This is news! Brown, yuh have a friend who knows a friend? She single? :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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If voting could really change things, It would be illegal..... :angel:
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Anybody got a media friend or contact? Get them to attend. Sunday 28th at 10:00AM, Sepp Blatter Hall, CONCACAF Centre of Excellence. The Look Loy campaign has been promised the votes to win. NOW, the cub reps have to come and deliver if they are serious about progressive change.
Anybody could just go?? Ah mean, say I know ah friend who knows ah friend who wants to go..... ;)
This is news! Brown, yuh have a friend who knows a friend? She single? :devil: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
uuuuuuummmm nnnnnoooooo...... ;D
If voting could really change things, It would be illegal..... :angel:
My "friend" eh going to vote, but to observe.....any member of the public could just go and observe??....
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Any word??
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I have just returned from the EFA AGM. As expected, the TTFF-appointed election officer, Wayne Riley, declared the Look Loy slate "fraudently" seconded by Prisons Sports Club, which has stood by its act of secondment. The claim, therefore, is that the outgoing executive committee is unopposed, and they were therefore returned to office by Riley.
Riley refused to allow the AGM to decide matter under existing EFA constitutional provision that provides for the AGM to settle issue that arise in emergency. The returning "president" Lennox Watson then declared the meeting closed and walked out.
After this, thirteen (13) of the seventeen (17) clubs at AGM signed a demand for new a AGM to be held on Sunday 4 September, at 10:00AM. If (or when) this bankrupt, illegitimate and unconstitutional regime attempt to ignore the demand the clubs will respond.
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I have just returned from the EFA AGM. As expected, the TTFF-appointed election officer, Wayne Riley, declared the Look Loy slate "fraudently" seconded by Prisons Sports Club, which has stood by its act of secondment. The claim, therefore, is that the outgoing executive committee is unopposed, and they were therefore returned to office by Riley.
Riley refused to allow the AGM to decide matter under existing EFA constitutional provision that provides for the AGM to settle issue that arise in emergency. The returning "president" Lennox Watson then declared the meeting closed and walked out.
After this, thirteen (13) of the seventeen (17) clubs at AGM signed a demand for new a AGM to be held on Sunday 4 September, at 10:00AM. If (or when) this bankrupt, illegitimate and unconstitutional regime attempt to ignore the demand the clubs will respond.
::) Sounds like the Sepp Blatter election all over again! >:(
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I guess Mr. Look Loy must be thanking God that the EFA is moving toward the path of open rebellion rather than looking to 'internal ctriticism' pandering. Hopefully fed-up clubs in the other associations will start taking action
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Actually, he is at the head of the rebellion.
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Actually, he is at the head of the rebellion.
its truly good to see someone with the courage to strike while the iron is hot to shake up the establishment and making the cockraoches scramble out the light.
props to mr. look loy, he has some fresh ideas, knows how to get his points accross and i wish him the best of luck in seeing his initiatives come to pass
and very special props to all those who rebelled BEFORE the iron was hot, men like burn boots, soca warriors, 2006, gally, men who risked everything to face dracula at the height of his power, and who paid the ultimate price. i hope these men will not be forgotten
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I really dont understand how only in Trinidad people can server for umteen times.....
Democracy out the door....
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I really dont understand how only in Trinidad people can server for umteen times.....
Democracy out the door....
because we have a massive, almost childish sense of self-entitlement, no sense of civic duty, and too much respect for 'authority'. we in T&T does take 'Big Chief' syndrome to new heights
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Actually, he is at the head of the rebellion.
The more he has to fight, the more respect he will gain.
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I have just returned from the EFA AGM. As expected, the TTFF-appointed election officer, Wayne Riley, declared the Look Loy slate "fraudently" seconded by Prisons Sports Club, which has stood by its act of secondment. The claim, therefore, is that the outgoing executive committee is unopposed, and they were therefore returned to office by Riley.
Riley refused to allow the AGM to decide matter under existing EFA constitutional provision that provides for the AGM to settle issue that arise in emergency. The returning "president" Lennox Watson then declared the meeting closed and walked out.
After this, thirteen (13) of the seventeen (17) clubs at AGM signed a demand for new a AGM to be held on Sunday 4 September, at 10:00AM. If (or when) this bankrupt, illegitimate and unconstitutional regime attempt to ignore the demand the clubs will respond.
This is sickening and frustrating.....these nasty, stinking, dutty men (and women?? :-\) :banginghead: :puking: :frustrated:
Also, to the forumites who tend to pontificate and plot strategy on how to reform the TTFF, take note at how hard the entrenched rats will fight before they give up the reigns of power.....they will stop at nothing to stay at the helm to detriment of us all.......
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I have just returned from the EFA AGM. As expected, the TTFF-appointed election officer, Wayne Riley, declared the Look Loy slate "fraudently" seconded by Prisons Sports Club, which has stood by its act of secondment. The claim, therefore, is that the outgoing executive committee is unopposed, and they were therefore returned to office by Riley.
Riley refused to allow the AGM to decide matter under existing EFA constitutional provision that provides for the AGM to settle issue that arise in emergency. The returning "president" Lennox Watson then declared the meeting closed and walked out.
After this, thirteen (13) of the seventeen (17) clubs at AGM signed a demand for new a AGM to be held on Sunday 4 September, at 10:00AM. If (or when) this bankrupt, illegitimate and unconstitutional regime attempt to ignore the demand the clubs will respond.
Take them to court.
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UPDATE
Colleagues,
1) Letter from the President of Prisons Sports Club
The president of the Prisons Sports Club, John Rougier, has written to the TTFF regarding the club's seconding of the slate of candidates which I head for the EFA election. For reasons of Law I do not copy the letter to you but I quote Mr. Rougier extensively for your guidance:
..." a letter purported to be issued by the Secretary of the Trinidad and Tobago Prisons Service Sports and Recreational Club dated August 25th was unauthorized, unilateral and done without the approval and consent of the executive body of the club. In the circumstance that letter is null, void, and has no legal standing.
Please note that it is the formal position of the Executive of the Trinidad and Tobago Prisons Service Recreational, Sports and Cultural Club is that we stand fully behind and second the nomination of Mr. Keith Look Loy for the position of President of the Eastern Football Association, as well as the candidacy of Mr. Roger Griffith as Vice-President; Mr. Frank Rodriguez as Vice-President; Mr. Fallon Thomas as Committee Member; and Mr. Anil Maraj as Assistant Secretary Administration."
Mr. Rougier's letter was forwarded to Richard Groden, TTFF General Secretary, this afternoon.
2) Email message to TTFF and EFA
The message copied below was also sent to Richard Groden, TTFF General Secretary, and Neville Ferguson, EFA Secretary, this evening. Please read it carefully.
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Richard Groden
General Secretary
TTFF
Port of Spain
30 August 2011
Sir,
I attach two documents in connection with the election of officers to the executive committee of the Eastern FA, which was scheduled for Sunday 28 August 2011, but which was aborted by the TTFF-appointed election officer, Wayne Riley, on the basis of a letter from the purported secretary of the Prisons Sports Club.
Document 1 (3 pages):
Thirteen of the seventeen clubs in attendance at the Annual General Meeting of 28 August 2011 have signed a letter calling on the TTFF and EFA to hold the aborted election on Sunday 4 September 2011. This letter was written immediately after the AGM was prematurely terminated by Lennox Watson. I expect the EFA secretariat to comply with this directive of the Association's General Council.
I have attached a) the hand-written letter from the clubs, b) the list of signatories, and c) the typed version of the letter.
Document 2 (1 page):
A letter from the president of the Prisons Sports Club, John Rougier, which repudiates the claims of the person who claims to be the club's secretary, and supports the club's seconding of the slate of candidates which I head.
Since the reason for the abortion of the election of officers was the letter from the purported secretary of the Prisons Sports Club challenging the club's seconding of my slate of candidates, I demand the holding of the election on Sunday 3 September 2011, given the Prison Sports Club's reiteration of its seconding and consistent with the letter from the EFA General Council.
Finally, I have previously requested a copy of the letter from the purported Prisons Sports Club, which was the basis for the abortion of the election of officers by Wayne Riley, which none of the candidates on my slate, nor any of the EFA member clubs had knowledge of prior to Sunday 28 August 2011, nor which any have seen. I once again request a copy of this letter, which it is my legal right to have
I await your response to all of the above within the next forty-eight hours, and reserve the right to adopt appropriate action in the absence of same.
Regards.
Keith Look Loy
Candidate for the presidency of the EFA
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Dem people rell outlandish and brazen oui!! I hope if they don't hold the elections that they take them to court and force their hands.
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Ok, regardless of my original uncertainties regarding Look Loy because of his previous involvement with TTFF, I will be happy to see him elected. At worse, he can do no more damage than these current dictators, and at best he can lead a force for change in this country. This trend of dictatorial control transcends football and is prevalent in all walks of society. You only have to look at how the PP moved once it gained power to see that people were not judged by their abilities, but by their allegience. This is understandable in Cabinet, but in the civil service people should be judged on performance.
TTFF has never been judged on performance. Once these people gained power they became immovable tyrants, ignoring rules and laws and manipulating democratic procedures to their benefit.
Without getting too political, thats what PP have done with the State of Emergency. The anti gang laws were an all party structure created to deal with a growing menace, yet carefully crafted to protect civil rights. By announcing an SOE, this trumps the anti gang laws civil rights concerns, yet allows the government to act on the tough legislation. And nobody can stop them. You can't even protest on the streets because your civil rights have been removed.
Back to football! If Look Loy can wrest control of EFA from these dictators, others can do the same. Love him or loathe him, Look Loys' crusade must be victorious so that it can be held as a beacon for others to follow, not just in football, but within all of the non democratic, non accountable, non transparent boys clubs who purport to be democratic institutions.
But, Mr Look Loy, if we throw our moral weight behind your campaign, remember, we will hold you accountable. I truly hope this is a new dawn in T&T football, so I will follow, but not blindly.
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Lookloy and Watson are two sides of the same coin! Neither of them are electable! They are part of the old regime! They cannot bring any real change It is only exchange! We are in a football mess?
Lookloy wants to be another Jack! He likes the life and is very ambitious , biased too!
No tears for the predicament in which he finds himself!
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Lookloy and Watson are two sides of the same coin! Neither of them are electable! They are part of the old regime! They cannot bring any real change It is only exchange! We are in a football mess?
Lookloy wants to be another Jack! He likes the life and is very ambitious , biased too!
No tears for the predicament in which he finds himself!
:beermug: Ambition is what fuels his run, not a concern for accountability and democracy.
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I assume both of you know him? While he has been building his amateur club, FC Santa Rosa, from a small group of little boys in Arima to a serious club over the past NINETEEN years, where have YOU been, and what have YOU been doing? How many players have YOU sent on scholarship or on contract? How many parents have come to YOU for support and guidance where their boys are concerned? How many community groups, schools and leagues have come to YOU to speak at their functions? How many kids have YOU assisted with their social and educational problems? I assume you both know him? Right?
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I assume both of you know him? While he has been building his amateur club, FC Santa Rosa, from a small group of little boys in Arima to a serious club over the past NINETEEN years, where have YOU been, and what have YOU been doing? How many players have YOU sent on scholarship or on contract? How many parents have come to YOU for support and guidance where their boys are concerned? How many community groups, schools and leagues have come to YOU to speak at their functions? How many kids have YOU assisted with their social and educational problems? I assume you both know him? Right?
I'm really starting to believe you are Look Loy. You get offend really quick. I won't get so mad if people are questioning my pardner. And if you really are Look Loy you are showing how when question or criticized you get angry instead of showing how you are different from JW. Your responses to criticism here, is akin to JW when the press ro anyone question him. Not Good.
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"Vex" pal? For criticism from cyberspace? Come on. I merely question the "bona fides" of people who condemn others who DO stuff without knowing anything about them, personal or professional. People who WORK at anything are always open to criticism, and it's part of the deal. Any public figure in any walk of life is open to criticism. But what exactly is the "crime" that some of you condemn Look Loy of? Stealing money? Stealing an election? Lying to the public? Professional incompetence? Corruption? Lack of ethics or morality? No - Ambition, according to someone? Ambition? Please. It's easy to sit and pontificate about what should be done, who "eh no good" and is a "wase an time", etc, etc, etc...That doesn't influence life. And by the way, care to answer my questions?
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:beermug: Ambition is what fuels his run, not a concern for accountability and democracy.
Name one person in his situation (involved in football administration and interested in office) not fueled by "ambition"... or alternatively, in it for "accountability and democracy".
I'm really starting to believe you are Look Loy. You get offend really quick. I won't get so mad if people are questioning my pardner. And if you really are Look Loy you are showing how when question or criticized you get angry instead of showing how you are different from JW. Your responses to criticism here, is akin to JW when the press ro anyone question him. Not Good.
This is nonsense... I doh know Look Loy from Look Left and even I find some ah this criticism bordering on bitch-assedness.
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I assume both of you know him? While he has been building his amateur club, FC Santa Rosa, from a small group of little boys in Arima to a serious club over the past NINETEEN years, where have YOU been, and what have YOU been doing? How many players have YOU sent on scholarship or on contract? How many parents have come to YOU for support and guidance where their boys are concerned? How many community groups, schools and leagues have come to YOU to speak at their functions? How many kids have YOU assisted social and educational problems? I assume you both know him? Right?
This discussion is simple,JW not there any more and everybody grasping at the opportunity to get in on piece of the Pie,it never had those kids of struggles before.
All what you mention there the Corneals did all of that for years and still today they are getting no thanks from Football supporters for it.Why do we always try to bring down peeps that trying when we ourselves can't or don't.
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Lookloy and Watson are two sides of the same coin! Neither of them are electable! They are part of the old regime! They cannot bring any real change It is only exchange! We are in a football mess?
Lookloy wants to be another Jack! He likes the life and is very ambitious , biased too!
No tears for the predicament in which he finds himself!
Hmmmn so basically you are saying that faced with a choice between Watson and Look Loy, you choose Watson, and go with the "Better the devil you know"? Because there is NO 3rd alternative, so failing to support Look Loy's attempts to become EFA President means a DEFINITE continuation of the "same ole same ole" eh! I CANNOT endorse this kind of thinking because it would mean NOTHING would ever change until "PERFECT" conditions/candidates exist... just my two cents...and inasmuc as peeps suspect that PRESIDENT is Look Loy, it makes me wonder if any of his DETRACTORS is LENNOX WATSON in disguise??? Just supposin...
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Name one person in his situation (involved in football administration and interested in office) not fueled by "ambition"... or alternatively, in it for "accountability and democracy".
There's nothing wrong with ambition. In fact, it is an attribute as far as I'm concerned. What I am seeing is folks are questioning Look Loy's sincerity when he talks about the need for accountability and democracy as he has described in his writings. If someone like George Hislop decided to run based on his desire to see accountability and democracy implemented in football adminisration, I would be prone to believe him because of his track record. On the flip side, I'm not sure if Look Loy has the track record to support his platform.
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President is definitely Look Loy! You see the kind of person he is ! He is already calling himself President and he ain't get the wok yet! Lookloy go and teach nah and leave football alone ! You are tainted ! You are one of Jack's henchmen and he does not even want you in that post! He knows u!
And who says JW is no longer around! He is a member of government sitting in cabinet and has a huge influence on the minister of sports! Remember how JW sponsor him to South Africa 2010? He knows all of them price! Very easy to read if you have been following football as long as I have! I am sure I have pants older than some of you guys!
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Tell me how Lookloy is another Jack? Nobody can be like jack. First of all Lookloy don't have the kind of money jack HAS. The next TTFF headhoncho will have to sing a diffrent tune when it comes to money. Providing jack eh pulling strings, the next president of TTFF must be a person who can articluate to the business entities of TT that supporting football and sports in general are to the benefit of the nation. He must be an effiecient fund raiser.
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There's nothing wrong with ambition. In fact, it is an attribute as far as I'm concerned. What I am seeing is folks are questioning Look Loy's sincerity when he talks about the need for accountability and democracy as he has described in his writings. If someone like George Hislop decided to run based on his desire to see accountability and democracy implemented in football adminisration, I would be prone to believe him because of his track record. On the flip side, I'm not sure if Look Loy has the track record to support his platform.
In other words, you can't name one person.
Thanks for playing.
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Oh, that was a serious question? Even after I wrote that there was nothing wrong with ambition, that's the dickish response you give? Wow, you can hold a grudge. Anyways, just in case you're in a drunken stupor, I'll clearly give the answer to your stupid question.
NO, there is no one who runs for office that isn't ambitious. Yes, there are people involved in football administration who are interested AND have a track record in supporting democracy and accountability. David John Williams. So have I answered your question you old drunk fool?
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Oh, that was a serious question? Even after I wrote that there was nothing wrong with ambition, that's the dickish response you give? Wow, you can hold a grudge. Anyways, just in case you're in a drunken stupor, I'll clearly give the answer to your stupid question.
NO, there is no one who runs for office that isn't ambitious. Yes, there are people involved in football administration who are interested AND have a track record in supporting democracy and accountability. David John Williams. So have I answered your question you old drunk fool?
Was your comment a serious comment? If there's nothing wrong with ambition then it's maybe you shouldn't have tried to use it in a disparaging manner with reference to Look Loy.
As for saying that I "hold a grudge". To paraphrase Samuel Langhorne Clemens... rumors of your import are greatly exaggerated. I am merely responding to your 'bitch-assed' sniping about Look Loy. Unless you're a mind-reader... or sleeping with either man, I don't see how you can vouch for the pure intentions of one and/or savage the other.
Calling me an old drunk fool really hurt my feelings... can't we all just get along?
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Was your comment a serious comment? If there's nothing wrong with ambition then it's maybe you shouldn't have tried to use it in a disparaging manner with reference to Look Loy.
As for saying that I "hold a grudge". To paraphrase Samuel Langhorne Clemens... rumors of your import are greatly exaggerated. I am merely responding to your 'bitch-assed' sniping about Look Loy. Unless you're a mind-reader... or sleeping with either man, I don't see how you can vouch for the pure intentions of one and/or savage the other.
Calling me an old drunk fool really hurt my feelings... can't we all just get along?
1. Wrong again, the disparaging part was questioning his sincerity about accountability and democracy.
2, If you're going to quote Twain, do it properly. In any event, self importance seems to be your malady not mine. As for bitch-assed sniping, your original response would fit that description to perfection.
3. If you think I was vouching for anyone, you're bigger fool than I thought. But in the case of Look Loy, an Emerson quote does come to mind; "The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons."
4. Don't f**k with Twain, learn to be a better reader and we'll be just fine. Now go play with yourself.
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wey papa..Look Loy evoking such emotions?
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1. Wrong again, the disparaging part was questioning his sincerity about accountability and democracy.
2, If you're going to quote Twain, do it properly. In any event, self importance seems to be your malady not mine. As for bitch-assed sniping, your original response would fit that description to perfection.
3. If you think I was vouching for anyone, you're bigger fool than I thought. But in the case of Look Loy, an Emerson quote does come to mind; "The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons."
4. Don't f**k with Twain, learn to be a better reader and we'll be just fine. Now go play with yourself.
1. You disparaged his sincerity by offering ambition as the impetus rather "a concern for accountability and democracy." Ambition and a concern for accountability and democracy are not mutually exclusive, yet that is how you deliberate juxtaposed the two. This is readily evident and certainly wasn't offered in a complimentary manner... your poor attempt at sophism notwithstanding.
2. I did not quote Twain you illiterate jackass, I paraphrased him and said as much. You would do well to learn the difference.
3. You doubted Look Loy's sincerity and I asked you to provide the name of someone whose sincerity is beyond reproach. You offered:
Yes, there are people involved in football administration who are interested AND have a track record in supporting democracy and accountability. David John Williams.
That is vouching for him... at least to those of us familiar with the english language. Yuh so desperate to argue that yuh twisting yuhself into all kinda mental gymnastics to say yuh didn't say what yuh in fact you did say.
4. I doh f**k with man... I'll leave that to you. As for me needing to be a better reader... kinda ironic, coming from someone who can't tell the difference between a quote and and obvious paraphrase.
wey papa..Look Loy evoking such emotions?
Apparently...
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Just my 10 cents, but anybody looking to progress in TTFF will be tainted in some way. For instance, Sancho & Jack seem to be peoples choice, but there would be many inside football who may not find that acceptable because of their war with Camps & Warner. Whoever gets the job will still have to work with some of the old regime, and with Jacks government & corporate pals. Peoples choice may get football nowhere, whereas someone like Look Loy may be acceptable.
People on this site have criticised Tiger, and now Look Loy for not doing more, but there is a strategy of keeping your head down until its safe to fly your flag. Some may find this weak, but its easier to make your move from the inside where you can network and gradually earn respect, than from the outside where you will be shunned.
None of us really know Look Loy or Tiger, we are just making guesses due to years of frustration.
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1. If all a person has is ambition, which I believe to be the case with Look Loy since he has no record of being a champion of accountability and democracy, how is my comment an attempt to be complimentary? Or did you think that because I said ambition is an attribute, you assumed I meant that a football administrator with ambition is sincere and good? Hmmm, interesting reasoning. I guess you would also believe that if wood floats and a duck floats then ducks are made of wood.
2. As for my alleged "impetus", look who is mind-reading now.
3. You paraphrased a famous quote; that is what was improper; and a bit lazy.
4. You cynically asked me to name one person in football administration who cares about democracy and accountability and I gave you a credible name. if you want to take that as a vouch or endorsement, that's your business.
5. You seem a bit fixated by man on man action, don't be ashamed of who you are. It get's better.
6. Yes, TrueTrini, it would appear Look Loy has touched a nerve or in Bake's case, his heart.
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1. If all a person has is ambition, which I believe to be the case with Look Loy since he has no record of being a champion of accountability and democracy, how is my comment an attempt to be complimentary? Or did you think that because I said ambition is an attribute, you assumed I meant that a football administrator with ambition is sincere and good? Hmmm, interesting reasoning. I guess you would also believe that if wood floats and a duck floats then ducks are made of wood.
2. As for my alleged "impetus", look who is mind-reading now.
3. You paraphrased a famous quote; that is what was improper; and a bit lazy.
4. You cynically asked me to name one person in football administration who cares about democracy and accountability and I gave you a credible name. if you want to take that as a vouch or endorsement, that's your business.
5. You seem a bit fixated by man on man action, don't be ashamed of who you are. It get's better.
6. Yes, TrueTrini, it would appear Look Loy has touched a nerve or in Bake's case, his heart.
Thanks for confirming what a dumbass you really are...
1. I never said you attempted to be complimentary... in fact I said just the opposite (the comment "certainly wasn't offered in a complimentary manner"). Learn to read you dunce!
2. I also didn't say anything about your "alleged impetus"... I said you attributed ambition to be Look Loy's impetus ("ambition is what fuels his run"). Or do you NOT know what impetus means?
3. There is nothing at all "improper" or "lazy" about a deliberate paraphrasing of the quote to tell you to stop taking yourself so seriously as to think I'm "holding a grudge". Clearly the original quote about premature rumors of the author's death cannot work to the same effect. Again, please familiarize yourself with concept before posting and making an ass of yourself.
4. If you think the name is "credible" then you are vouching for that credibility yuh tun tun. It really not that hard.
5. I have no interest in finding out if "man on man action" gets better... although you sure seem eager to share.
No need for me to respond to the rest... or to respond further, for that matter.
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Well, for a "dumbass", my writing seems to provoke you to frequently reply. I guess that makes you a bigger ass.
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Tempo, Bakes,
I needed a laugh early in the morning.
Thanks ;D
VB
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Look Loy is decent guy, but he intentions is always to use people to get what he wants. (Beware Flex)....
This guys is Jack Warner hatchet man, Jack fire him a million times and call him back.
Like his ambition, but dont like the way he go about getting into the game.
He is sneaky.
Hope he changes now, its never to late ?
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Just my 10 cents, but anybody looking to progress in TTFF will be tainted in some way. For instance, Sancho & Jack seem to be peoples choice, but there would be many inside football who may not find that acceptable because of their war with Camps & Warner. Whoever gets the job will still have to work with some of the old regime, and with Jacks government & corporate pals. Peoples choice may get football nowhere, whereas someone like Look Loy may be acceptable.
People on this site have criticised Tiger, and now Look Loy for not doing more, but there is a strategy of keeping your head down until its safe to fly your flag. Some may find this weak, but its easier to make your move from the inside where you can network and gradually earn respect, than from the outside where you will be shunned.
None of us really know Look Loy or Tiger, we are just making guesses due to years of frustration.
Well said,thank you. :beermug:
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Confusion reigns as NOBODY here KNOWS Look Loy because in the public media he only talks about technical matters. How could he be at one and the same time "a decent guy" and "Jack's hatchet man"? And he's "sneaky" too? What does that mean? He has "ambition" but that seems to be a bad thing?
I ask again, as I have asked before, EXACTLY what had he done that SOME people appear to be up in arms about? Forget the innuendo and the mauvais langue and "what yuh hear". Let's hear EXACTLY what he had done that evidently warrants the death sentence that SOME people has pronounced......
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Just my 10 cents, but anybody looking to progress in TTFF will be tainted in some way. For instance, Sancho & Jack seem to be peoples choice, but there would be many inside football who may not find that acceptable because of their war with Camps & Warner. Whoever gets the job will still have to work with some of the old regime, and with Jacks government & corporate pals. Peoples choice may get football nowhere, whereas someone like Look Loy may be acceptable.
People on this site have criticised Tiger, and now Look Loy for not doing more, but there is a strategy of keeping your head down until its safe to fly your flag. Some may find this weak, but its easier to make your move from the inside where you can network and gradually earn respect, than from the outside where you will be shunned.
None of us really know Look Loy or Tiger, we are just making guesses due to years of frustration.
And that is something any would-be administrator will HAVE to deal with and be patient with fans, not fans being patient with the administartors. This is so, as fans have been patient forever. Surely someone seeking such an office will understand the fans frustration and lack of enthusiasm to just support them (the new administrator) outright.
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nice flow fellahs
men even para/quotin literary giants an ting oui...allyuh eh easy in dis place
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That's right Elan. Fans need to understand that as loyal or passionate as they may be they do not know everything about the internal operations of the TTFF, or about who is really who inside there. Therefore, we should be careful about the wanton ease with which some condemn ANYONE who has been in the least way associated with the Federation or with Jack Warner...or because they "doh like dem", or because of "wha dey hear". Do you the critics on SWO really believe they are more frustrated than people within the TTFF who have been working on a daily basis for years to effect positive change? As I say in my graphic, "a little respect goes a LONG way".....
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President there is nothing wrong with ambition if you play by the rules but in Lookloy's case could you explain how he attained the position of Technical adviser after being fired from less important positions such as Joe Public coach I know at least 10 persons with more international experience who could play that role ! How did he get that position? Did Jack use him to carry out his bidding and just handed it to him? Did he undermine others to attain it? Vaulted ambition using insidious means is something I detest! Ok he
Likes football but I see him at a club level and all those little boys he is helping I hope he is no longer verbally abusing them!
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...Maybe FIFA could give you some insight into that. Why not ask them why he was a member of their technical commission at the 2011 Colombia Under 20 World Cup - AFTER Jack Warner has resigned from FIFA. Could it be that he actually knows what he is doing? But does it really matter? Talk about an agenda. Your response to requests for FACTS is to ridicule and to spread innuendo. Live long and prosper pal...
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...and I should add, he also worked with FIFA at the 2009 Egypt Under 20 World Cup...
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Look, I had my beef and cussout with President/Look Loy/whoever for a show of what I believed was uncalled for arrogance on his part. But only two people have thrown their hats in to the ring for EFA President, Watson and Look Loy. Last I check neither Jesus or Ghandi in the running. So don't expect perfection.
At least Look Loy has the courage and foresight to make sure his message (like it or not) is directed straight to the long-suffering fans. Granted he could break every promise on the agenda posted here then turn around and say he never had no representative name President. BUT....Where is the current EFA president? What he saying? What he going to do differently? What change for the better is he going to bring after all these years of the same old same old, or maybe he thinks things real good just the way they are...
We all know the zonal system is helping to hamstring the local game, and Camps and the gang have been elected UMPTEEN TIMES via this same corrupt zonal system, so why are we focusing on personal criticism of Look Loy's past and NOT A PEEP about Watson or any of the other members of the zonal old boys club? How them fellas turn hero so fast? Dem wasn't Jack bootlickers too? Allyuh bawling for accountability, then firing bullet at the man just because he/representative post here.
As I see it Look Loy actions could help to bring out good people with fresh ideas to challenge the status in quo and bring about much needed improvements in the other zonal associations and the entire TTFF. Which is exactly what we want, not so?
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...Amen to that, Zandolie. THAT's the idea...
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Confusion reigns as NOBODY here KNOWS Look Loy because in the public media he only talks about technical matters. How could he be at one and the same time "a decent guy" and "Jack's hatchet man"? And he's "sneaky" too? What does that mean? He has "ambition" but that seems to be a bad thing?
I ask again, as I have asked before, EXACTLY what had he done that SOME people appear to be up in arms about? Forget the innuendo and the mauvais langue and "what yuh hear". Let's hear EXACTLY what he had done that evidently warrants the death sentence that SOME people has pronounced......
I must admit I dont have the time to follow every post or poster on this forum so I could be wrong but ..... in your 93 posts since you joined this forum have you commented on any topic other than one defending Look Loy ?
I would have serious concerns in taking you seriously if you haven't. Surely there are other matters taking place that you might have an opinion on ? It would seem to me that you might have an agenda if all that matters is that you respond to anything Look Loy . Reminds me of a certain " ship " with its battery of responders to all criticism in the media. I would not want to put you there but you may have already done that ...
What about the match tomorrow ...as a serious football lover ...how do you see our chances ? Can you bring some of that intellectual, factual analysis to the response ? I surely would appreciate your comment..
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...Amen to that, Zandolie. THAT's the idea...
Aye we eh friends yet pardner, not until yuh boy keep his promises to put in term limits and an elections oversight committee ;D
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No we are not. I don't know you and vice versa. Relax...
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...and he will...
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...and he will...
100 posts ! Congratulations ...what do they know about lookloy who only look loy know :beermug:
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MEDIA STATEMENT BY KEITH LOOK LOY AND OTHER CANDIDATES IN
THE EASTERN FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION’S ELECTION OF OFFICERS
On 11 August of this year, after careful consideration, I undertook to offer myself as a candidate for the presidency of the Eastern Football Association.
After I issued a letter in this regard to the member clubs of the EFA, I was approached by several clubs to form a slate of candidates, which was duly proposed by my club, FC Santa Rosa, and seconded by Prisons Sports Club.
On Sunday 28 August 2011, the member clubs of the Eastern Football Association were supposed to elect their new executive committee to manage the Association’s affairs for the period September 2011 to August 2013.
The seventeen clubs assembled for the EFA’s Annual General Meeting were denied the opportunity to do so when Wayne Riley, the returning officer appointed by the TTFF with the consent of the outgoing executive committee but ultra vires, i.e. outside of, the EFA Constitution and without the agreement of the assembled clubs, declared the candidates nominated by FC Santa Rosa and seconded by Prisons Sports Club to have been improperly seconded and, therefore, ineligible to contest the election.
On that basis, Riley went on to declare the slate of candidates comprising the incumbent officers to be unopposed and returned to office for the new two‐year term. The meeting was never shown the letter in
question.
Riley made his unilateral and illegal decision based on the presentation by persons unknown, of a letter from a person claiming to be the secretary of the Prisons Sports Club, who also claimed that the officer who signed on behalf of Prisons Sports Club to second the slate of candidates headed by Keith Look Loy was unauthorized to do so.
Despite the protestation of the affected candidates, the representative of the Prisons Sports Club and other clubs present, Riley declared his decision and left the meeting, which the outgoing EFA president, Lennox Watson, promptly closed and also left.
Thirteen of the seventeen clubs in attendance immediately wrote and signed a letter to the EFA/TTFF demanding the holding of the election on Sunday 4 September 2011. Both organizations have ignored the clubs’ demand.
The president of the Prisons Sports Club, John Rougier, who is also the Commissioner of Prisons, has since written a letter condemning the letter of the purported Club secretary as “null, void, ultra vires and without legal standing”, and reiterating the Club’s support for the candidates it has properly seconded: Keith Look Loy, Roger Griffith, Frank Rodriguez, Anil Maraj and Fallon Thomas.
Meantime, we have made multiple requests for a copy of the letter on which Riley based his decision (29/8/11, 30/8/11, 2/9/11). These requests have been ignored.
We have made multiple requests for a copy of Riley’s report to the TTFF (30/8/11, 2/9/11. This request has been ignored.
It is clear that the EFA and TTFF intend to frustrate those who would challenge their undemocratic handling of this matter by ignoring them, and to have any challenge to the illegitimate reinstallation of the incumbent regime die a natural death.
Indeed, it has been reported to us by various clubs that members of the unconstitutional regime that wishes to
hold on to power have been advising them that the election is a dead issue, that FC Santa Rosa and Prisons Sports Club fraudulently proposed the slate of candidates which I head, and that they are “back in power for another two years”.
We, the candidates of change, intend to resist this travesty, and to keep the struggle for democracy and development in the Eastern Football Association, and the TTFF by extension, alive. We refuse to allow our opponents to trample on the most basic principles of Fair Play, Natural Justice and Democracy.
Given the current impasse, we are proven correct in our decision, once in office, to pursue the introduction of a maximum limit of two consecutive terms in office for executive officers of Regional Associations and the TTFF itself.
More immediately, we have undertaken the following initiatives:
‐ The retention of legal counsel, Mr. Samuel Saunders, Attorney‐at‐Law.
‐ The issuance of a legal letter to the EFA demanding the reconvening of the 2011 AGM
and the holding of the aborted election within seven (7) days, i.e. by 14 September
2011.
‐ Preparation for referral of the matter to a) arbitration, as mandated by the EFA
Constitution, b) to FIFA, if necessary, and finally c) to the civil courts of Trinidad and
Tobago.
The resolution of this matter rests squarely with the TTFF and EFA, and on their willingness to act in accordance with the most basic principles of Democracy. We, the candidates of change, trust that both organizations will do the right thing.
That said, let everyone be absolutely clear. We intend to pursue this matter to the finish, wherever the finish may be. The member clubs of the Eastern Football Association must have their say, their right to democratically elect their executive leadership must be observed.
Keith Look Loy
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I hope Look Loy gets through.
Whatever your opinion of him, the kind of non democratic dictatorial administration that exists within TTFF and the Regional leagues must be torn down. It is clear that TTFF are not interested in the democratic process, as this will bring about their demise. As such I would be interested in knowing if the non support of Look Loys complaint by TTFF is non constitutional and is against TTFF rules and regulations. If this is the case, then surely Camps and his executives have lost the mandate empowered to them to uphold the constitution and an emergency general meeting should take place to elect a new executive capable of upholding the constitution.
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Look Loy wants new EFA elections
By JONATHAN RAMNANANSINGH (Newsday).
TRINIDAD and Tobago Football Federation technical adviser Keith Look Loy has joined 13 football clubs from the Eastern Football Association calling for a new Annual General Meeting and elections of EFA executive committee.
Look Loy is being supported by these clubs since they claim they were all denied an opportunity to exercise their rights in the election of officers at the August 28 meeting.
Look Loy who is FC Santa Rosa president, added that the re-election of the executive for another term was a breach of the EFA constitution and called for transparency in the matter.
The TTFF adviser also slammed EFA officials for blatantly neglecting a proposed list of possible candidates for the elections, which was nominated by FC Santa Rosa.
These proposed candidates he said were: Look Loy for president; Roger Griffith, Frank Rodriguez vice-presidents; Farlon Thomas and Anil Maraj(committee members).
Look Loy explained, “The 17 clubs assembled for the AGM were denied the opportunity to do so when Wayne Riley, the returning officer appointed by the TTFF and with the consent of the outgoing executive but ultra vires, that is outside of, the EFA constitution and without the agreement of the assembled clubs, declared the candidates nominated by FC Santa Rosa and seconded by the Prisons Sports Club to have been improperly seconded and, therefore, ineligible to contest the election.”
On that basis, Riley went on to declare the slate of candidates comprising the incumbent officers to be unopposed and returned to office for the new two-year term. The meeting was never shown the letter in question.”
Look Loy felt that they were wilfully neglected by outgoing members of the EFA board, who were again nominated for another two-year term, “unopposed”.
Supporting Look Loy were FC Maloney, Creek Sports and Cultural Club, Upper Santa Cruz, Pinto United, La Horquetta Sporting AC, Barataria Ball Players, Malabar FC, St John’s United, Tunapuna Titans FC, WASA FC, Carib FC, Prisons Sports Club and FC Santa Rosa.
The TTFF technical adviser made it clear that once the general law of football, fair play, was not being considered by the retaining members, FC Santa Rosa and the other supporting clubs would continue pursuing the cause until justice was served.
Look Loy urged the clubs to set aside club and personal rivalries and unite, with full focus on making the right choice for the development of the association and the game of football in Trinidad and Tobago.
He was stern in his decision and aims to go all the way in ensuring that fairness and good sense prevails.
Look Loy made clear that they have already attained a legal representative to assist them in the proper handling of the matter.
He was determined to have a compromise, go to the world governing body of football (FIFA) and even take up the matter in the local courts.
Look Loy has also proposed a September 14 date for the EFA committee to re-schedule the election.
However, to date, they have not yet received any feedback from the EFA committee.
“More immediately, we have undertaken the following initiatives; the retention of legal counsel Mr Samuel Saunders, the issuance of a legal letter to the EFA demanding the re-convening of the 2011 annual general meeting and the holding of the aborted election within seven days, that is by September 14; and preparation for referral of the matter to arbitration, as mandated by the EFA constitution, or go to FIFA, if necessary, and finally to the civil courts of Trinidad and Tobago,” continued Look Loy.
He wanted all those involved to act truthfully and do the right thing for the betterment of the game in this country.
Look Loy is calling on the relevant authorities to step in and have the elections re-done.
“The time for change that will move our game forward is now. This election is not about personalities. It is about the politics of democracy, the establishment of viable development programmes, and the planned progress of our sport and our association.
“After all the disenchantment and grumbling, we now have the opportunity to actually make a positive change,” asserted Look Loy.
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http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,146969.html
Look Loy wants new EFA elections
By JONATHAN RAMNANANSINGH Friday, September 9 2011
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TRINIDAD and Tobago Football Federation technical adviser Keith Look Loy has joined 13 football clubs from the Eastern Football Association calling for a new Annual General Meeting and elections of EFA executive committee.
Look Loy is being supported by these clubs since they claim they were all denied an opportunity to exercise their rights in the election of officers at the August 28 meeting.
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It seems like Look Loy trying to clean up these bogus elections that have pervaded our football. Let's see what happens here.
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Look Loy promises court action after EFA election.
By: Andrew Gioannetti (Guardian)
President of FC Santa Rosa and candidate for presidency of the Eastern Football Association (EFA) Keith Look Loy has said that he is prepared to go to court in the event that the EFA fails to respond to his request to reconvene the Annual General Meeting (AGM), which he said was conducted in an unlawful manner.
Speaking at a press conference at the LOC Room, Hasely Crawford Stadium, Mucurapo, Look Loy said that the meeting resulted in incumbent officers returning to office unopposed on the basis of a claim by Wayne Riley, a returning officer appointed by TTFF, that FC Santa Rosa had been “improperly seconded and, therefore, ineligible to contest the election.”
Riley, according to Look Loy, claimed that he held a letter signed by an unauthorised person representing the Prisons Sports Club, Charmaine Johnson seconding the nomination, making it ineligible. Look Loy said that Riley went on to declare at the meeting’s end that the slate of candidates comprising the incumbent officers, to be unopposed and returned to office for the new two-year term.
He said, “despite a protest of the affected candidates, the representative of the Prisons Sports Club and other clubs present, Riley declared his decision and left the meeting, which the outgoing EFA president, Lennox Watson, promptly closed and left.”
Look Loy said that following the meeting, 13 of the 17 clubs comprising the EFA provided signatures with an attached hand written letter requesting an election of officers and delivered it to the EFA and the TTFF, but this has not since been addressed.
The clubs included: FC Maloney, Creek Sports and Cultural Club, Upper Santa Cruz, Pinto United, La Horquetta Sporting Academy, Barataria Ball Players, Malabar FC, St John’s United, Tunapuna Titans, WASA FC, Carib FC and Prisons Sports Club and FC Santa Rosa.
FC Santa Rosa nominated the following persons, under the leadership of Look Loy for the executive posts within the EFA: Roger Griffith and Frank Rodriguez for vice-president, and Anil Maraj and Farlon Thomas for committee members. The posts were seconded by the Prisons Sports Club as signed by wife of Look Loy, Cathy Ann Look Loy of FC Santa Rosa, and Sterling Stewart of the Prisons Sports Club in a letter to the secretariat of the EFA, Neville Ferguson.
In a follow up letter to the EFA, president of the Prisons Sports Club John Rougier, advised that “a letter purported to be issued by the secretary of the Trinidad and Tobago Prisons Service Sports and Recreation Club dated August 25th 2011 was unauthorised, unilateral and done without the approval and consent of the executive body of the club.” “In the circumstance, that letter is null, void, ultra vires and has no legal standing.”
The letter went on to state that it was the formal position of the Prisons Sports Club to support and second the nomination of Look Loy and his candidates for the respective positions within the EFA. Look Loy then advised that several requests were made for the letter on which Riley’s decision was based.
He said the requests have been ignored. In a strongly worded statement, Look Loy said that “It is clear that the EFA and TTFFA intend to frustrate those who would challenge their undemocratic handling of this matter by ignoring them, and to have any challenge to the illegitimate reinstallation of the incumbent regime die a natural death.”
He said: “It has been reported to us by various clubs that members of the unconstitutional regime that wishes to hold on to power have been advising them that the election is a dead issue, that FC Santa Rosa and Prisons Sports Club fraudulently proposed the slate of candidates which I head, and that they are back in power for another two years.” He said that the following initiatives have been undertaken to deal with the issue.
• The retention of legal counsel, Mr Samuel Saunders, Attorney-at-Law.
• The issuance of a legal letter to the EFA demanding the reconvening of the 2011 AGM and the holding of the aborted election within seven days, that is, by September 14, 2011.
• Preparation for referral of the matter to, a) arbitration, as mandated by the EFA Constitution, b) to FIFA, if necessary, and finally c) to the civil courts of T&T.
The legal letter issued by attorney Saunders has since been delivered to the Trinidad Guardian. The letter indicates that the attorney has been instructed that the five persons as previously mentioned have nominated as candidates for the respective offices within the EFA.
It also indicates that the candidates have been seconded by the Prisons Club. The letter also indicates that as instructed that, “at the AGM of the EFA held on the 28th day of August, 2011, one Mr Wayne Riley (purportedly appointed by the TTFF) wrongfully and contrary to the EFA’s constitution, presided over the AGM as presiding officer. The letter indicated as instructed, the said person, Riley, who was purportedly appointed by the TTFF, presiding over the AGM as presiding officer, did so wrongfully and contrary to the EFA’s constitution.
The letter went on to state that “on the basis of a letter received from one Charmaine Johnson (who purported to be the Secretary of the T&T Prisons Service) in which she indicated that the above club did not second the nomination of the candidates proposed by our clients, declared the said candidates nominations invalid and thereafter proceeded to declare that the other slate of candidates was elected unopposed.”
Saunders was informed that the letter was never circulated to members of the EFA nor to those present at the AGM and that Riley unlawfully refused a request to allow the AGM to deal with the issue of Charmaine Johnson’s letter and its impact on the validity of the secondment of the candidates proposed by Saunders’ clients.
The lawyer’s letter states that: “Having regard to the above, we are of the opinion that the AGM held on the 28th day of August, 2011 was incomplete and the officers, who were declared elected as unopposed, have not been duly elected in accordance with the provisions of the constitution.”
The AGM has thus been requested to reconvene within seven days thereof to deal with the validity of the nominations of the candidates proposed by the clients and to complete the election of officers. Saunders said that his clients were willing to resolve the matter amicably without recourse to the courts.
The matter rests squarely with the TTFF and EFA, and on their willingness to act in accordance with the most basic principles of democracy,” Look Loy said.
In his original letter distributed to all EFA members dated August 11, Look Loy proposed his intention to run as a candidate for presidency of the EFA highlighting a “lack of democracy and transparency,” within the association as his major concern. He said; “Over the course of the last two years, I have represented FC Santa Rosa in a General Council of the EFA, ie the assembly of clubs.
During that time, I have been witness to, and resisted, the consistent attempt of the current leadership, under president Lennox Watson and general secretary Neville Ferguson, to maintain a culture of personal dictatorship and abuse of member clubs, a culture lacking in democracy and transparency,” his proposal stated. He also insisted a “lack of development” and “political entrenchment” as the essential reasons for a need for change within the EFA.
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President , you sounding like the old Lookloy again! You know Jack's boys go squeeze you with this kind of talk! I don't know if you mean it though or you just saying the right thing to get the position!
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The clubs of the Eastern FA have formed a body which they will call the "Movement for Football Excellence (MOVE)".
Stay tuned for more info...
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Oliver Camps has appointed a three-man committee to investigate the EFA impasse. The clubs (MOVE) have accepted the principle of an investigative committee, and even the chairmanship of Rudy Thomas (TTFF vice-president and president of the SFA), but rejected the membership of "party hacks" Krishna Kuarsingh (one of the men now attempting to eliminate the Referees' Association, which has the referees on strike), and Sherwyn Dyer (president of the Eastern Counties Football Union, the most disorganized of all TTFF regional associations). MOVE accepts Thomas because its is a TTFF matter, but has made the point that the TTFF excutive committee has already sent a letter to Watson and Company congratulating them on their "return to office" in the EFA and therefore KK and Dyer are tainted. MOVE has called for Larry Romany (president of the TTOC) and sports lawyer Tyrone Marcus (of the Ministry of Sport and the TT Pro League) to be included instead of these two. MOVE is particularly insistent on having a lawyer included as the entire EFA impasse revolves around constitutional and legal issues.
Meantime, TTFF insider sources are talking about a palace coup in the making. They say if Groden is banned by FIFA the plan is to install Neville Ferguson as Federation GS, and to replace Camps with Watson because Camps is "too soft" and the preservation of the old regime demands some hard-line leadership - such as we are seeing in the EFA. Link the EFA election fraud to the TTFF coup plotting, and the campaign ahead of the CFU election scheduled for 20 November, and you will see how important the EFA scenario is to certain people.
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Somebody need to run a mock on Neville Ferguson and Watson.
Trinidad people to soft.
Call up Abu Bakr for they ass....
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Somebody need to run a mock on Neville Ferguson and Watson.
Trinidad people to soft.
Call up Abu Bakr for they ass....
Abu Bakr soft, when Robbie say attack with full force Bakr give up.
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Oliver Camps has appointed a three-man committee to investigate the EFA impasse. The clubs (MOVE) have accepted the principle of an investigative committee, and even the chairmanship of Rudy Thomas (TTFF vice-president and president of the SFA), but rejected the membership of "party hacks" Krishna Kuarsingh (one of the men now attempting to eliminate the Referees' Association, which has the referees on strike), and Sherwyn Dyer (president of the Eastern Counties Football Union, the most disorganized of all TTFF regional associations). MOVE accepts Thomas because its is a TTFF matter, but has made the point that the TTFF excutive committee has already sent a letter to Watson and Company congratulating them on their "return to office" in the EFA and therefore KK and Dyer are tainted. MOVE has called for Larry Romany (president of the TTOC) and sports lawyer Tyrone Marcus (of the Ministry of Sport and the TT Pro League) to be included instead of these two. MOVE is particularly insistent on having a lawyer included as the entire EFA impasse revolves around constitutional and legal issues.
Meantime, TTFF insider sources are talking about a palace coup in the making. They say if Groden is banned by FIFA the plan is to install Neville Ferguson as Federation GS, and to replace Camps with Watson because Camps is "too soft" and the preservation of the old regime demands some hard-line leadership - such as we are seeing in the EFA. Link the EFA election fraud to the TTFF coup plotting, and the campaign ahead of the CFU election scheduled for 20 November, and you will see how important the EFA scenario is to certain people.
interesting...
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What happening now that Groden only get a slap on his wrist? These people have outlived their usefulness! They were all part of a clan, so now that Jack has gone , they too should do the honorable thing as they were there at his behest!
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''A luta continua"...The struggle continues. The EFA clubs have formed MOVE (Movement for Football Excellence); they have written to Anil Roberts; the TTFRA have issued a release supporting their call for a free and fair election; and they are awaiting the response to their demand for the inclusion of Larry Romany (TTOC president) and Tyrone Marcus (Ministry of Sport/TT Pro League attorney) in his investigative committee. Meantime, it appears the Northern FA will hold its election on 31 October and Look Loy and the EFA clubs have already stated their support for the opposition there - led by Marlon Morris and Clint Marcelle. A luta continua...a new day will not come easily but it WILL come...
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Who is in control of the Northern Association?? Any TTFF croonies??
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Yes. Roland Forde is President. A cool guy but he's part of the inside crowd and he's not capable of transforming the NFA.
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Yes. Roland Forde is President. A cool guy but he's part of the inside crowd and he's not capable of transforming the NFA.
there is another option that could put a stop to this debacle
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I hope MM and CM get thru oui caw dem fellaz love football bad. Is fellaz like deze Trini football really need right now.
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Mr. Anil Roberts
The Honourable Minister of Sport and Youth Affairs
Port of Spain
12 October 2011
Honourable Minister,
On Sunday 28 August 2011, the member clubs of the Eastern Football Association were supposed to elect a new executive committee to manage the Association’s affairs for the period September 2011 to August 2013.
The seventeen clubs assembled for the EFA’s Annual General Meeting were denied the opportunity to do so when Wayne Riley, the returning officer appointed by the TTFF with the consent of the outgoing executive committee but ultra vires the EFA Constitution and without the agreement of the assembled clubs, declared the candidates nominated by FC Santa Rosa and seconded by Prisons Sports Club to have been improperly seconded and, therefore, ineligible to contest the election.
On that basis, Riley went on to declare the slate of candidates comprising the incumbent officers to be unopposed and returned to office for the new twoyear term. The meeting was never shown the letter in question.
Riley made his unilateral and illegal decision based on the presentation by persons unknown, of a letter from a person claiming to be the secretary of the Prisons Sports Club, who also claimed that the officer who signed on behalf of Prisons Sports Club to second the slate of candidates headed by Keith Look Loy was unauthorized to do so.
Despite the protestation of the affected candidates, the representative of the Prisons Sports Club and other clubs present, Riley declared his decision and left the meeting, which the outgoing EFA president, Lennox Watson, promptly closed and also left.
Thirteen of the seventeen clubs in attendance immediately wrote and signed a letter to the EFA/TTFF demanding the holding of the election on Sunday 4 September 2011.
Both organizations have ignored the clubs’ demand. The president of the Prisons Sports Club, John Rougier, who is also the Commissioner of Prisons, has since written a letter condemning the letter of the purported Club secretary as “null, void, ultra vires and without legal standing”, and reiterating the Club’s support for the candidates it has properly seconded: Keith Look Loy, Roger Griffith, Frank Rodriguez, Anil Maraj and Fallon Thomas.
Meantime, we have made multiple requests for a copy of the letter on which Riley based his decision. These requests have been ignored. We have also made multiple requests for a copy of Riley’s report to the TTFF. These requests have also been ignored.
On 6 October 2011, fourteen (14) member clubs attended a General Council meeting on the official invitation of EFA general secretary Neville Ferguson. At that meeting the clubs refused to install the EFA’s purported officers according to the EFA constitution, and moved and seconded the following motion.
“Given the events which affected the election of officers scheduled for 28 August 2011, be it resolved that this General Council meeting of 6 October 2011 mandates the EFA general secretary to organize an election of officers to be held on the morning of Sunday 30 October 2011, the deadline for the nomination of candidates being Sunday 16 October 2011”.
At the point of voting on the motion, Ferguson, who was in the chair, declared the proceedings to be unconstitutional as the purported officers had not been installed and ended the meeting.
On 7 October 2011, FC Santa Rosa wrote to TTFF general secretary Richard Groden regarding Ferguson’s conduct of this meeting, yet again seeking the Federation’s intervention.
On 12 October 2011 Groden responded to the club’s letter via email, indicating that TTFF president Oliver Camps has decided to appoint a three‐member committee to investigate the political impasse.
The clubs met on that evening, formed the Movement for Football Excellence (MOVE) and agreed to the appointment of said committee, but in letter to Camps dated 13 October 2011, we have indicated our concern that the committee should be impartial and should include the ability to address the constitutional and legal issues that are at the heart of the impasse. We have, therefore, proposed the inclusion of Larry Romany, president of the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee, as well Tyrone Marcus, an attorney in your Ministry and an official of the TT Pro League, as the committee’s other members.
MOVE intends to resist the travesty that passes for politics in the EFA, and to keep the struggle for democracy and development in the Association, and the TTFF by extension, alive. We refuse to allow our opponents to trample on the most basic principles of Fair Play, Natural Justice and Democracy.
The resolution of this matter could easily be achieved by the TTFF and EFA, and rests squarely on their willingness to act in accordance with the most basic principles of Democracy. MOVE hopes that both organizations will do the right thing.
We bring this matter directly to your attention to ensure that you are aware of what is taking place within the TTFF, given your Ministry’s key role in financing aspects of the TTFF operations. We attach a copy of relevant documents for your perusal.
In closing, we wish to make it absolutely clear that we intend to pursue this matter to the end, wherever the end may be. The member clubs of the Eastern Football Association must have their say, their right to democratically elect their executive leadership must be observed. We hope for a response.
Best regards,
Signed by:
Barataria Ballplayers FC
Carib FC
Creek Sports Club
FC Santa Rosa
La Horquetta FX
La Horquetta Sporting Academy
Malabar FC
Pinto United FC
Prisons Sports Club
St. John’s United FC
Tunapuna Titans FC
Upper Santa Cruz FC
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Oliver Camps
President
TTFF
Port of Spain
13 October 2011
Dear Sir,
I respond to email messages from Richard Groden, dated 12/10/2011 and 13/10/2011, which I will take as official communication, advising of the TTFF president’s decision to appoint a three member committee to investigate the current political impasse in the Eastern Football Association.
The member clubs of the Movement for Football Excellence (MOVE) accept the principle of having a committee investigate the entire impasse. However, we are concerned that the committee should be impartial and include in its membership an ability to address the constitutional and legal issues which lie at the heart of the EFA impasse.
In this regard, we take note of the fact that the other committee members appointed by the TTFF are Krishna Kuarsingh and Sherwyn Dyer, both members of the TTFF executive committee. According to a letter read by EFA secretary Neville Ferguson into the record of the EFA General Council on 6 October 2011, the TTFF executive committee has already discussed the aborted EFA election of 28 August 2011 and issued a congratulatory letter to purported EFA president Lennox Watson – a TTFF vice president and his team of candidates on their purported victory.
In light of the foregoing, while we readily accept the proposed chairmanship of TTFF Vice-president, Rudy Thomas, we categorically reject the inclusion of Kuarsingh and Dyer. Instead, we propose that the President of the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee, Larry Romany (or his representative), and respected sports attorney Tyrone Marcus, who is a TT Pro League official, should be included as the
committee’s other members. These are persons of integrity and repute in the sporting world and who, most importantly, have no connection to this matter.
Further, MOVE wishes this committee to conclude on the matter with urgency as the EFA is now without a constitutionally appointed General Council, executive committee, or standing committees.
We await your response.
Best regards.
Keith Look Loy
For and on behalf of MOVE
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:applause: :applause:
Pressure does buss pipe!!! Like we might have to put Camps on nervous break down alert......
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Pressure does buss pipe!!! Like we might have to put Camps on nervous break down alert......
Yeah? Well add in this little conundrum. TTFF ordered to pay by today $4.2 million to the players. Three scenarios available:
1) They pay. OK, so where did the money come from? TTFF told the Minister of Sport that they were broke, so how come they had money? Oh, its a loan, I see. So who loaned it, and on who's authority was it accepted? TTFF have no income, so they can't service the loan. Therefore, it is improper for the Executive to approve such a debt with no visible means of servicing it and no assets to set against it. In effect, the loanee can now force TTFF into bankruptcy at any time. Not good business practice and this should result in the immediate dismantling of TTFF with a new structure to be put in place.
2) They will ask for more time. This is not acceptable as they did ask for more time, without giving a particular reason i.e. arranging finance etc. The court agreed on 7 days and TTFF's lawters accepted this on behalf of their clients. Non payment, I believe is contempt of court. Bakes...any input here?
3) They say they can't pay. This should then result into TTFF filing for bankruptcy and an ensuing investigation to ascertain if the executive officers are guilty of mismanagement etc a la Clico.
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:applause: :applause:
Pressure does buss pipe!!! Like we might have to put Camps on nervous break down alert......
Yeah? Well add in this little conundrum. TTFF ordered to pay by today $4.2 million to the players. Three scenarios available:
1) They pay. OK, so where did the money come from? TTFF told the Minister of Sport that they were broke, so how come they had money? Oh, its a loan, I see. So who loaned it, and on who's authority was it accepted? TTFF have no income, so they can't service the loan. Therefore, it is improper for the Executive to approve such a debt with no visible means of servicing it and no assets to set against it. In effect, the loanee can now force TTFF into bankruptcy at any time. Not good business practice and this should result in the immediate dismantling of TTFF with a new structure to be put in place.
2) They will ask for more time. This is not acceptable as they did ask for more time, without giving a particular reason i.e. arranging finance etc. The court agreed on 7 days and TTFF's lawters accepted this on behalf of their clients. Non payment, I believe is contempt of court. Bakes...any input here?
3) They say they can't pay. This should then result into TTFF filing for bankruptcy and an ensuing investigation to ascertain if the executive officers are guilty of mismanagement etc a la Clico.
:praying:
:cheers:
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Good adherence to protocol by Look Loy. Let's see how far it will get him though. Looks like the TTFF trying to pussyfoot around the crux of the issue by appointing some partial men. Camps and he batallion need to go for football in TnT to clean up.
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3) They say they can't pay. This should then result into TTFF filing for bankruptcy and an ensuing investigation to ascertain if the executive officers are guilty of mismanagement etc a la Clico.
Is really up to the judge... if he feels disrespected then he can cite them for contempt. If he continues to buy their bullshit he'll just keep giving them rope.
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Don’t play rough with regional football.
T&T Guardian Reports.
The call by Jamaica’s candidate for the presidency of the Caribbean Football Union (CFU), Tony James, for greater transparency on the part of FIFA with regard to the bans, suspensions and warnings handed out to a number of CFU officials has great merit to it.
Last week, FIFA expanded the number of sanctions taken against CFU officials in the matter related to the alleged giving and accepting of bribes from then FIFA presidential candidate, Mohamed bin Hammam, allegedly aided and abetted by former CFU president and FIFA vice president Jack Warner.
With the world football body having spent quite an amount of time and money investigating the allegations and making several statements on the matter, “now they have to follow up with a press release indicating what they have done and why they have done it.
People have been guessing and it shouldn’t be like that. FIFA should explain why X person has been banned for X time,” states Mr James. We join cause with Mr James because FIFA, notwithstanding its all-powerful nature, is ultimately an organisation of member football associations and so has a major responsibility to those organisations.
So too does the governing body of football have a responsibility to the hundreds of millions of football fans who are the very reason why football is a multi-billion dollar industry, perhaps one of the largest and most country-representative in the world.
We are all now very familiar with the bribery allegations made against the CFU officials including Mr Warner, who was then FIFA vice president and Mr bin Hammam, who was contesting the presidency of FIFA against the incumbent Sepp Blatter.
There is also the promise of Mr Warner to “tell all” at the appropriate time with regard to the practices of FIFA across national boundaries over many decades.
As Mr James has rightly said, there is need for transparency, clarity and reason in the statements from FIFA on the actions taken against several CFU officials.
This requirement for clarity becomes even more urgent because of the allegations by Mr Warner that what FIFA is doing is seeking to severely weaken the CFU member states in football.
Among other allegations, Mr Warner claims that by year end, FIFA plans to remove its development office from Trinidad and has already, through an unnamed official, relocated the CFU office from Port-of-Spain to Miami; the outcome being that any Caribbean official wanting to be at CFU meetings must have a US visa. This latter move would appear to be a case of the business of the Caribbean being determined outside of the region.
Most importantly, separate and apart from the contentions against CFU officials, we call on FIFA to tell the region immediately if it will be penalised in terms of the development of its football because a few CFU officials have been accused of corrupt activity.
If this is so, it would be manifestly unfair, unacceptable, unwarranted and against the norms of natural justice to penalise the development of football in an entire region—including the relocation of the CFU office—because of the alleged misdeeds of a few. Mr Blatter must know that Caribbean peoples will not take easily any unwarranted attacks against the football prospects of the region.
Surely football development in the region must not be subject to conflict between parent body FIFA and a few football officials of the Caribbean. Moreover, it must be recognised that the CFU has membership associations of 25 countries which cannot and must not be penalised without reason.
This responsibility for transparency and accountability goes beyond whether Mr Warner and all the accused CFU officials were guilty or not, in some form or manner, of participating in illegal activities at the May meeting of the CFU here with Mr bin Hammam.
In giving each FIFA members the vote, the organisation has accepted the status of the member countries and its citizens as participants in the football family. FIFA has an obligation to treat all members of the family with fairness, balance and objectivity.
Editorial
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TOBAGO FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION
Room # 12 Fairfield Complex, Bacolet Street, Scarborough, Tobago
Tel/Fax. 639‐3953 & 387‐0112
25, October 2011
Mr. Richard Groden
General Secretary
Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation
Dundonald Street
Port -of- Spain, Trinidad
Dear Sir,
It is with a deep sense of concern and alarm that we the Executive members of the Tobago Football
Association view the current situation now taking place in the Eastern Football Association as it
relates to its recent elections or rather non elections.
We want to categorically state from the onset, we take no side in this matter. However all we seek to
do is to ensure that equality, natural justice and fair play is served, administered and strict adherence
to the tenets to the constitution is observed and the sacred rights of all the member clubs be protected
and preserved.
Any action short of this will be a great travesty one of which we can ill afford at this juncture in our
development of the beautiful game in our nation.
To this end we the executive of the T.F.A wishes to express our unwavering support and solidarity to
the clubs of the E.F.A in their quest to elect their true representatives and leadership of their choice
and therefore take this opportunity now to make our loud clarion call for fresh elections free and fair
and free from fear.
We therefore stand awaiting positive outcomes toward the continued of the national football and
human development. Thanking you in advance for your understanding and appreciation of the
foregoing.
Yours respectfully,
Raymond Alleyne
President
President: Raymond Alleyne, Vice Presidents: Kerry Lynch, & Andell Bruce,
General Secretary: Hayden Duke, Secretary Operation: Tony Antoine
Secretary Administration: Bernard Allum.
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What is happening with the election of President of TTFF? The same principle should apply! Clubs should have a vote for the ne President! Is any attention being paid to this by the Minister of Sport?
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The twelve clubs of MOVE (Movement for Football Excellence) wrote to Anil Roberts in mid-October to apprise him of the situation in the Eastern FA, and the attempt of Lennox Watson (now TTFF president) to hijack their election. He has not even acknowledged their letter but calling on cricket administrators to resign. Amazing...
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spray some baygone in dey mudder cu#ts
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Hijack of Eastern-FA continues.
The move by Lennox Watson, Neville Ferguson and associates to consolidate their hijack of the Eastern FA continued last evening at the Andre Kamperveen Hall of the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence at a meeting of the EFA General council chaired by Ferguson.
Over the objection of member clubs, Ferguson proceeded with the "installation of officers" by Brian Layne (TTFF executive committee member).
Protesting clubs sought to argue against the meeting agenda, which included the installation of officers as the first business item.
They also attempted to argue that former TTFF president Oliver Camps had established a committee under the chairmanship of TTFF vice-president Rudy Thomas to investigate the electoral impasse in the east.
This committee has not as yet met with the EFA clubs but had indicated unofficially yesterday afternoon that it wished to convene the first meeting on 10 November 2011.
Ferguson never listened or responded to these arguments and proiceeded with the manipulation of last evening's meeting, which entirely circumvents the work of this investigative committee.
Notably, of the thirteen (13) clubs in attendance, nine (9) walked out of the meeting during the purported installation of officers. These clubs will meet on the weekend to discuss their response to the latest turn of events.
These clubs are:
Barataria Ballplayers FC
Carib FC
Creek Sports and Cultural club
FC Santa Rosa
La Horquetta Sporting Academy
Malabar FC
Pinto United FC
Prisons Sports Club
St. John's United FC
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So why don't the 9 clubs just form their own league? Then they can formally be recognised as the East Zone representatives and earn a place on TTFF board. It can be done....its exactly what the English Premier League did!
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So why don't the 9 clubs just form their own league? Then they can formally be recognised as the East Zone representatives and earn a place on TTFF board. It can be done....its exactly what the English Premier League did!
Good idea!! :beermug:
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Comrades, the EPL did not leave the English FA. Moreover, the English FA is hardly the JUNGLE that the TTFF is. The EPl clubs were able to negotiate their formation of a new league - much as the TT Pro League did. They didn't CHALLENGE the political status quo as Look Loy and MOVE are doing. The formation of another regional association would NEVER be accepted by the TTFF, the owners of which have carefully crafted the geographical boundaries and political network over time - twenty-odd years. That said, change must come and no dictatorship lasts forever. People just have to be determined enough and smart enough to win! And that is what TTFF meet this time...
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Eastern Football Association impasse Clubs call for ‘special meeting’ in East Zone
T&T Guardian
Six member clubs of the Eastern Football Association have signed a petition calling for a Special General Meeting of the Association on November 20 in which to mandate a democratic election in the EFA. Among the signatories are Keith Look Loy (FC Santa Rosa), Brian DA Bain (Pinto United FC), Frank Cazabon (St John’s United FC), Farlon Thomas (La Horquetta Sporting Academy), Edward Manning (Barataria Ball Players FC), Lincoln Augustus (Creek SCC). According to a press release submitted by the group MOVE, “this petition is further evidence that the member clubs of MOVE refuse to acknowledge the renegade regime that is seeking to impose itself on the membership of the EFA - a regime that NO-ONE HAS VOTED FOR, but which claims to have "won" the aborted election of August 28.
This renegade regime has consistently ignored and abused the EFA constitution, and every principle of natural justice and Fair Play in its drive to maintain itself in power. It has also employed its interlocking with the leadership of the TTFF, and every other means at its disposal, to undermine democracy in the EFA, and the TTFF by extension. Ultimately, this will fail.” The petition has been delivered to Neville Ferguson, secretary of the Eastern Football Association.
It reads: “Article 10.11 of the Eastern Football Association states: “Any (sic) extraordinary General Meeting may be called by the General Council whenever it deems fit, or upon special requisition made by at least 33 1/3 % of the Full Membership, who must submit copies of the Minutes of the Meetings which were held by each member when a decision was taken and whose requisition must state specifically the business to be transacted at the meeting called for. Such a meeting must be conveyed within 14 days of the receipt of the said requisition.” “We hereby call for the convening of a special general meeting to be held on November 20.
The business of this meeting would be to discuss and vote on the following resolution. “Given the political impasse in the Eastern Football Association and the dissatisfaction of clubs, be it resolved that the clubs of the EFA instruct the EFA secretariat to organise an election of officers. Be it further resolved that the EFA clubs also instruct the EFA secretariat to organise said election on Sunday 4 December 2011, i.e. two weeks after the adoption of this resolution, consistent with Article 10:4 of the EFA Constitution, which requires nominations to be submitted to the EFA secretariat at least 14 days before the date of an election.”
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Prez, I never said that the EPL left the English FA. The founding clubs of the EPL resigned from the Football League (similar, I guess to the Pro League). They were dissatisfied in how football was being run and negotiated their own tv deal as a limited company. This met with the approval of the English F.A.
The TTFF jungle, as you describe it, is nothing more than a fiefdom controlled by self appointing undeperformers. This description could also apply to the English football League back in the 90's. There was this mix of public school old boys in cohoots with their former schoolmates at the Football Association and old school club owners in the lower leagues who ran their clubs as hobbies, not interested in progressive marketing or stadium development.
The EPL resignations were unprecedented. The F.A. had no choice but to support it. They also saw that the business plan was good for football.
In this instance, there is no way TTFF would support a breakaway league. But is that necessary? Couldn't 9 or 10 clubs just organise themselves? The East Zone would have no product. The new breakaway league would have proper organisation and attract sponsors. They could market themselves. They may even be able to entice clubs from other leagues to join.
It takes a revoloution to overthrow dictators. If they really want to rebuild T&T football from the grassroots, this is the way to do it. The zone can't operate without the teams and players.
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Eastern Football Association impasse Clubs call for ‘special meeting’ in East Zone
T&T Guardian
Six member clubs of the Eastern Football Association have signed a petition calling for a Special General Meeting of the Association on November 20 in which to mandate a democratic election in the EFA. Among the signatories are Keith Look Loy (FC Santa Rosa), Brian DA Bain (Pinto United FC), Frank Cazabon (St John’s United FC), Farlon Thomas (La Horquetta Sporting Academy), Edward Manning (Barataria Ball Players FC), Lincoln Augustus (Creek SCC). According to a press release submitted by the group MOVE, “this petition is further evidence that the member clubs of MOVE refuse to acknowledge the renegade regime that is seeking to impose itself on the membership of the EFA - a regime that NO-ONE HAS VOTED FOR, but which claims to have "won" the aborted election of August 28.
This renegade regime has consistently ignored and abused the EFA constitution, and every principle of natural justice and Fair Play in its drive to maintain itself in power. It has also employed its interlocking with the leadership of the TTFF, and every other means at its disposal, to undermine democracy in the EFA, and the TTFF by extension. Ultimately, this will fail.” The petition has been delivered to Neville Ferguson, secretary of the Eastern Football Association.
It reads: “Article 10.11 of the Eastern Football Association states: “Any (sic) extraordinary General Meeting may be called by the General Council whenever it deems fit, or upon special requisition made by at least 33 1/3 % of the Full Membership, who must submit copies of the Minutes of the Meetings which were held by each member when a decision was taken and whose requisition must state specifically the business to be transacted at the meeting called for. Such a meeting must be conveyed within 14 days of the receipt of the said requisition.” “We hereby call for the convening of a special general meeting to be held on November 20.
The business of this meeting would be to discuss and vote on the following resolution. “Given the political impasse in the Eastern Football Association and the dissatisfaction of clubs, be it resolved that the clubs of the EFA instruct the EFA secretariat to organise an election of officers. Be it further resolved that the EFA clubs also instruct the EFA secretariat to organise said election on Sunday 4 December 2011, i.e. two weeks after the adoption of this resolution, consistent with Article 10:4 of the EFA Constitution, which requires nominations to be submitted to the EFA secretariat at least 14 days before the date of an election.”
Bump. Two days til the the special assembly forced by dissenting EFA clubs. The jail guard will have a lot on his plate. Under all the talk about development and funding, THIS is where the battle for football could see its first victory or defeat. Watch this space. President and others, keep us updated please.
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Of the thirteen clubs that signed the first petition calling for an election - on the very day of the election (28 August 2011) aborted by Watson and his clique by having Look Loy's slate declared improperly seconded - only SEVEN appear to remain solid in their demand for an election. This will be decided tomorrow.
By way of threat of victimization, including job loss, promises of benefits to be provided by acting TTFF president Watson, and a slander campaign against Look Loy, the EFA/TTFF clique, supported by corporate and poilitical figures, have been able to seduce and/or bully support away from the Look Loy camp. Clubs that have beeen strong in their criticism of the EFA clique over many months have turned tail and run in the last week. There are no ethical considerations here. And, of course, there were already clubs that actually SUPPORT the TTFF clique because they enjoy little benefits from the system.
Win, lose, or draw on Saturday, people generally, and on SWO, in particular, need to understand the EFA is a microcosm of the TTFF and removing the TTFF clique and transforming the Federation will not happen simply because the public and football players are fed up of them. The TTFF clique is entrenched in so many areas of football and national life. This is the nature of dictatorship. The options are: 1) a long term grassroots struggle by the clubs for democracy, and/or 2) FIFA intervention in the wake of the Federation being declared bankrupt in December.
All of the above said, the progressive clubs will attend tomorrow's meeting to fight for what is right. Win lose or draw in that vote, the PEOPLE of TNT need to demonstrate TANGIBLY that they support the transformation that everybody is demanding but not enough people are FIGHTING for. Maybe it's time for an "Occupy TTFF" Movement?
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Of the thirteen clubs that signed the first petition calling for an election - on the very day of the election (28 August 2011) aborted by Watson and his clique by having Look Loy's slate declared improperly seconded - only SEVEN appear to remain solid in their demand for an election. This will be decided tomorrow.
By way of threat of victimization, including job loss, promises of benefits to be provided by acting TTFF president Watson, and a slander campaign against Look Loy, the EFA/TTFF clique, supported by corporate and poilitical figures, have been able to seduce and/or bully support away from the Look Loy camp. Clubs that have beeen strong in their criticism of the EFA clique over many months have turned tail and run in the last week. There are no ethical considerations here. And, of course, there were already clubs that actually SUPPORT the TTFF clique because they enjoy little benefits from the system.
Win, lose, or draw on Saturday, people generally, and on SWO, in particular, need to understand the EFA is a microcosm of the TTFF and removing the TTFF clique and transforming the Federation will not happen simply because the public and football players are fed up of them. The TTFF clique is entrenched in so many areas of football and national life. This is the nature of dictatorship. The options are: 1) a long term grassroots struggle by the clubs for democracy, and/or 2) FIFA intervention in the wake of the Federation being declared bankrupt in December.
All of the above said, the progressive clubs will attend tomorrow's meeting to fight for what is right. Win lose or draw in that vote, the PEOPLE of TNT need to demonstrate TANGIBLY that they support the transformation that everybody is demanding but not enough people are FIGHTING for. Maybe it's time for an "Occupy TTFF" Movement?
Thanks for the update and keep up the fight for transformation!! :beermug:
The road to change, democracy and accountability in the TTFF is not an easy one!!
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EFA to elect new president.
T&T Newsday Reports.
WAYNE CUNNINGHAM, former manager of Caledonia AIA, sports commentator and businessman, has been tipped to replace Lennox Watson as the president of the Eastern Football Association (EFA) today.
The EFA will be holding a Special Extraordinary Meeting today, from 10 am, at the Sepp Blatter Hall, Dr Joao Havelange Centre of Excellence, Macoya.
In a media release issued by the EFA on Thursday, “on November 8, a special requisition was received from Barataria Ball Players, Creek SCC, FC Santa Rosa, Pinto United FC, St John’s United FC and La Horquetta Sporting Academy requesting an Extraordinary General Meeting to discuss and vote on a resolution proposed therein.”
And the meeting was set, pursuant to Article 10:11 on the EFA’s constitution.
The six aforementioned clubs are seeking to pass the resolution — “given the political impasse in the EFA and the dissatisfaction of the (six) clubs, be it resolved that the clubs of the EFA instruct the EFA secretariat (Neville Ferguson) to organise an election of officers.”
The resolution continued, “be it further resolved that the EFA clubs also instruct the EFA secretariat to organise (the) election on December 4, two weeks after the adoption of this resolution, consistent with Article 10:4 of the EFA constitution, which requires nominations to be submitted to the EFA secretariat at least 14 days before the date of an election.”
A total of 17 clubs are registered with the EFA, but the six clubs who raised the motion are calling for new elections, after Santa Rosa’s president/owner Keith Look Loy failed in his bid to unseat Watson on August 28.
Watson, who has relinquished the post as EFA boss, is now the acting president of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) after last month’s resignation of the long-serving Oliver Camps.
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This Newsday report is partially incorrect. The Extraordinary General Meeting to be held today will decide if an election of officers - to all posts - will be held. If the resolution is successful, then an election will be held. If it is not, then those who claim to have been elected on 28 August - although no vote was held - will remain in office illegally and an election must be held to replace Watson. Then again, the EFA/TTFF clique do whatever they want irrespective of the Constitution so the article may be correct. Whatever happens, the truth is that the road to transformation of the TTFF - or blocking it - rests via the regional associations, and in the hands of the regional clubs. The TTFF clique understand this, which is why they pay no attention to the TT Pro League and the SSFL.
Now are the regional clubs ready to challenge the established order of business? They categorically rejected Marlon Morris in the recent Northern FA election - he lost by 2 votes to 17 - and today's EFA decision will confirm their acceptance of the status quo or their readiness to change it. Meantime, the clubs of the TT Pro League, from which Look Loy has repeatedly and unsuccessfully requested public support for the EFA clubs' struggle, continue their love-hate relationship with the TTFF, wanting to maintain their independence from the clique, but hoping for benefits from the football and governmental power-brokers at the same time.
It will not be easy to transform the TTFF. So many people have a stake in the established order.
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The Watson/Ferguson/Cunningham clique won the vote 10:6 this morning at the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence. The clubs IN FAVOUR of having an election were:
- Barataria Ballplayers Sports Club
- FC Santa Rosa
- La Horquetta Sporting Academy
- Pinto United Sports Club
- Prisons Sports Club
- St. John's United FC.
Those OPPOSED were:
- Boss FC
- Carib FC (who were represented by Colin Murray)
- Joe Public FC
- La Horquetta XF
- Malabar FC
- Maloney FC
- Tunapuna Titans FC
- Upper Santa Cruz FC
- Valtrin FC
- WASA FC
Creek FC, one of the signatories to the petition for an election did not vote. Certain other clubs - Upper Santa Cruz, Tunapuna Titans and Malabar FC - jumped ship in the last days and the clubs have spoken. They have chosen to maintain the staus quo.
The "losers" in this vote have determined to continue the painstaking work of building a national, democratic, movement of clubs, on which to base the transformation of the TTFF and local football culture. WE have nothing to offer by way of material benefit to those who join us - only ideas, a vision and lots of hard work to achieve it. Naive? Idealistic? Maybe, but this is the only way.
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Ah not surprised.....that's our nature. Once we eating ah food we good to go......screw everything else. So if the people with the power to change things like it so, who de hell is me??!! Steups!! I happy for Cunningham....another stooge in the making I guess.....double steups!! Bunch ah firetrucking jokers!!!.... :busshead: :frustrated: :cursing: :banginghead:
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The "politics of the belly" have prevailed yet again but there is room for hope - six clubs stood firm. One year ago it would have been FC Santa Rosa alone. A luta continua...the struggle continues...
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Well, the people have spoken, let the chips fall where they may. These clubs have propped up Oliver Camps and by extension Jack for decades, and to some degree are responsible for where we find ourselves today. If they lacked the courage to attempt a change....that is on them, they exercised their voting rights.
Folks get ready for the reign of Mr. Lennox Watson. Provided the TTFF and its staff stays solvent, which it will in in some form another, he could concievably be in power for a good 10 years or more.
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The "politics of the belly" have prevailed yet again but there is room for hope - six clubs stood firm. One year ago it would have been FC Santa Rosa alone. A luta continua...the struggle continues...
on another note. president, thanks for providing this forum with quality information and a look inside the workings of the federation. good luck to mr. look loy in continuing to bring change to the local football community
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The Watson/Ferguson/Cunningham clique won the vote 10:6 this morning at the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence. The clubs IN FAVOUR of having an election were:
- Barataria Ballplayers Sports Club
- FC Santa Rosa
- La Horquetta Sporting Academy
- Pinto United Sports Club
- Prisons Sports Club
- St. John's United FC.
Those OPPOSED were:
- Boss FC
- Carib FC (who were represented by Colin Murray)
- Joe Public FC
- La Horquetta XF
- Malabar FC
- Maloney FC
- Tunapuna Titans FC
- Upper Santa Cruz FC
- Valtrin FC
- WASA FC
Creek FC, one of the signatories to the petition for an election did not vote. Certain other clubs - Upper Santa Cruz, Tunapuna Titans and Malabar FC - jumped ship in the last days and the clubs have spoken. They have chosen to maintain the staus quo.
The "losers" in this vote have determined to continue the painstaking work of building a national, democratic, movement of clubs, on which to base the transformation of the TTFF and local football culture. WE have nothing to offer by way of material benefit to those who join us - only ideas, a vision and lots of hard work to achieve it. Naive? Idealistic? Maybe, but this is the only way.
How acrimonious was the meeting ... if at all?
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The "politics of the belly" have prevailed yet again but there is room for hope - six clubs stood firm. One year ago it would have been FC Santa Rosa alone. A luta continua...the struggle continues...
on another note. president, thanks for providing this forum with quality information and a look inside the workings of the federation. good luck to mr. look loy in continuing to bring change to the local football community
well said. :applause: :applause:
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The Watson clique attempted to "steal" the Prisons vote by claiming that the club's representative was illegal and that they had the REAL representative present to vote - for them, of course! That was defeated after half an hour of heated debate. Also, could you imagine they brought out Colin Murray of Carib - who has never attended an EFA meeting previously! Apparently, the "plebs" who run the Carib team, and who are in favour of change, were not to be trusted to deliver the Carib vote to the clique. Hence the front office turned up. At the end of the day, people get exactly the government they deserve. The struggle isn't over but today demonstrates that old adage.
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The Watson clique attempted to "steal" the Prisons vote by claiming that the club's representative was illegal and that they had the REAL representative present to vote - for them, of course! That was defeated after half an hour of heated debate. Also, could you imagine they brought out Colin Murray of Carib - who has never attended an EFA meeting previously! Apparently, the "plebs" who run the Carib team, and who are in favour of change, were not to be trusted to deliver the Carib vote to the clique. Hence the front office turned up. At the end of the day, people get exactly the government they deserve. The struggle isn't over but today demonstrates that old adage.
so president, who win?
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The Watson clique attempted to "steal" the Prisons vote by claiming that the club's representative was illegal and that they had the REAL representative present to vote - for them, of course! That was defeated after half an hour of heated debate. Also, could you imagine they brought out Colin Murray of Carib - who has never attended an EFA meeting previously! Apparently, the "plebs" who run the Carib team, and who are in favour of change, were not to be trusted to deliver the Carib vote to the clique. Hence the front office turned up. At the end of the day, people get exactly the government they deserve. The struggle isn't over but today demonstrates that old adage.
so president, who win?
Watson & the current TTFF clique have basically been given the go ahead to continue the status quo!
Ban allyuh belly for more of the same with plenty more let downs and broken promises! :violin:
So the 2018 campaign slogan is "WE RUSHING TO RUSIA" but also with them same people in charge at the TTFF it simply means that we rushing to more disappointments and failure!!
You don't keep repeating the same mistakes and expect to get different results!
Signs of total madness has set it!!
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The Watson/Ferguson/Cunningham clique won the vote 10:6 this morning at the CONCACAF Centre of Excellence. The clubs IN FAVOUR of having an election were:
- Barataria Ballplayers Sports Club- FC Santa Rosa
- La Horquetta Sporting Academy
- Pinto United Sports Club
- Prisons Sports Club
- St. John's United FC.
Those OPPOSED were:
- Boss FC
- Carib FC (who were represented by Colin Murray)
- Joe Public FC
- La Horquetta XF
- Malabar FC
- Maloney FC
- Tunapuna Titans FC
- Upper Santa Cruz FC
- Valtrin FC
- WASA FC
Creek FC, one of the signatories to the petition for an election did not vote. Certain other clubs - Upper Santa Cruz, Tunapuna Titans and Malabar FC - jumped ship in the last days and the clubs have spoken. They have chosen to maintain the staus quo.
The "losers" in this vote have determined to continue the painstaking work of building a national, democratic, movement of clubs, on which to base the transformation of the TTFF and local football culture. WE have nothing to offer by way of material benefit to those who join us - only ideas, a vision and lots of hard work to achieve it. Naive? Idealistic? Maybe, but this is the only way.
Did not realize we still exist, nice to know, more important, nice to know we voted for elections
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WAYNE CUNNINGHAM will serve as president of the Eastern Football Association (EFA) following an Extraordinary General Meeting on Saturday morning at the Sepp Blatter Hall, Dr Joao Havelange Centre of Excellence, Macoya, Tunapuna. MORE (http://www.socawarriors.net/league/league-news/minor-leagues/10047-cunningham-is-efa-president.html)
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Interesting development: "Also, could you imagine they brought out Colin Murray of Carib - who has never attended an EFA meeting previously! Apparently, the "plebs" who run the Carib team, and who are in favour of change, were not to be trusted to deliver the Carib vote to the clique. Hence the front office turned up."
So it moved from a sporting decision to a corporate/political decision. Could be some embarrassing repercussions here. After all, by sending Mr Murray, Carib are expressing their corporate views. This leaves the door open to Look Loy and friends to attack Carib as an enemy of democracy and football development. Maybe they would launch a protest boycotting Carib products from their games? I think this was a risky decision by Carib, but maybe they received political pressure to vote?
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to listen to Colin Murray in d past yuh woulda swear he was better than dat but as noted Carib is Ansa Mcal and Ansa is PP by association and preference, so Jack boys always had dem cards in dey deck
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Did not realize we still exist, nice to know, more important, nice to know we voted for elections
We cyah stop... even when we down under we moving like a submarine..
next time yuh go home yuh must take ah walk down by de mang and check them out
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The anti-democratic, monopolistic, parasitic elite is entrenched throughout the body politic, financial and social, of Trinidad and Tobago. The manipulation of votes in the EFA is not a surprise. Dictatorship always depends on people to work against against their own interests in order to maintain its rule. The "contra" clubs have agreed to band together and to work towards a grassroots democratic solution to the stagnation of the TTFF. All the talk about installing Sancho, Hislop, and ANYONE else, including Look Loy, at the top is futile talk. Rst assured of that. Only a movement of clubs could save the TTFF and TT football for the people of TT...
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The anti-democratic, monopolistic, parasitic elite is entrenched throughout the body politic, financial and social, of Trinidad and Tobago. The manipulation of votes in the EFA is not a surprise. Dictatorship always depends on people to work against against their own interests in order to maintain its rule. The "contra" clubs have agreed to band together and to work towards a grassroots democratic solution to the stagnation of the TTFF. All the talk about installing Sancho, Hislop, and ANYONE else, including Look Loy, at the top is futile talk. Rst assured of that. Only a movement of clubs could save the TTFF and TT football for the people of TT...
Come on Mr President ...you disappoint me here. how can you describe the winners as anti democratic ? Was there not a vote ? were the results not published so everyone could see which club supported which candidate ? Surely you dont think that lobbying is a lost art in T&T .. In fact it is so in very democracy . If you dont have US1 million and more you cant be President of the United States, the world's most advanced democracy.
Lobbying is an integral part of the process ...you think that honesty and integrity and fair play have any place in elections in any country on this eatrh. So what did the look loy faction have to offer ? that is what they should have considered beforehand . If they wanted to be like David and conquer Goliath they should have ensured that they had superior backing ...unless you believe David went out there to fight the giant based on the fact that he was doing the right thing ? De man had backing !!! where was the backing of the challengers ?
You know some of us might wonder if this group had won if they would be any different to the present title holders given such naiveity ..
I against the old regime .......nothing go change here ...but I also knew when it came down to the wire ..who have more corn can feed more fowl ...
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Where have you been pal? Not following the evolution of this, I see. The vote last Saturday was forced on the TTFF clique, who voted for Camps, I remind you - after three months of struggle against anti-democratic, unconstitutional behaviour and denial of an election. On Saturday, clubs that had been for an election since 28 August, and which had signed every letter and petition that had been forwarded to the EFA/TTFF in support of their position, suddenly changed sides and voted AGAINST having an election. You think this was Democracy at work? Was the nonsense at the Hyatt months ago Democracy at work? You think all these CFU people are being banned and fined due to a figment of someone's imagination? That was your so-called "lobbying".
Based on your very casual acceptance of so-called democratic practice, you should have no problem in accepting the rot at the TTFF. ALL of the politicians at Abercromby Street have been ELECTED by someone. Your naivete - or cynicism - is shocking. It's the TTFF we are talking about.
All of that said, no problem. To be cliche, "The voice of the People is the voice of God". We will all have to live with the consequences of having those clubs which voted against an election in the EFA decide the course of the Association over the next two years.
P.S. The Look Loy faction" had nothing other than ideas, a vision and lots of hard work to offer to the clubs. Those who seek to overthrow the status quo usually find themselves in that position. More importantly, what did the EFA/TTFF clique have to offer the clubs? More of the very same thing that you say you are against. This is not an intellectual exercise we are involved in here pal. It is the very future of our football - something that many of us work hard for on the ground in very difficult conditions every day - that we are fighting for. Despite the slogan up above, we don't just talk.
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Kinda funny really. People here vexed at the way this "democratic" election ended, with people making promises then reneging on them at the last moment. Yet when Jack did this to England at the 2018 WC bid, people here thought it was funny.
Now you see how Jack the teacher has educated his pupils to operate exactly the same way. Mr Look Loy and his compatriots never spoke out against Jacks treachery earlier in the year, yet now have a taste of his medicine.
Too many people in this country sit back quietly and watch countless acts of corruption, deceipt and shamefully unmoralistic practices while it suits them to take their paychecks. Once the tide turns, the rats desert the sinking ship and protest their outrage.
Look at Clico. People suddenly now telling all that went on, but looked the other way while they earned their millions.
This is why Watson, Cunningham and, yes, even Look Loy will not be trusted. You have to earn trust, and that takes time and many unselfish actions.
I do appretiate the actions of Look Loy and the "rebel" clubs and I hope they continue to fight, because the longer they protest, the more confidence we will have in them.
Unfortunately, horse trading is part of the democratic process. "Ask not what you can do for your country, but what can you do for me" is the unofficial slogan of democracy. Look at the Peoples Partnership....govt all nicely divided up between the coalition before the elections. Same as the UK government.
And this is why, as President said, nobody can go in at the top, you have to build a local powerbase to solidify your campaign. People will ride your coat tails to the top. Everyone likes to back a winner, but many will wait until the 90th minute before choosing which team to support.
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I think we are pretty much saying the same thing here ...I just wanted to state the obvious and was wondering why it was not obvious to the look loy faction how deep and low the present adm. would stoop to conquer ! how could Look loy not see what was coming .... I gave examples of this sort of action way back in 2006 ..... it has been happening way before that ...has been happening I say ...it still is . So i question the ability of this unsuspecting " new " group to play ball with the present regime...dais all !!
Look loy should remember his words when he returned with a T&T youth team after meeting Latin Opposition ....he was honest and said we were not in the class of those teams ...I thought he would have heeded his own message ....be sure you know beforehand what your opponent is capable of ....guess he forgot !
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Look Loy set to unveil ‘Project 2026’, plan will pool ‘B team’ of players born from 1999.
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868).
Even as Trinidad and Tobago prepare to grab a late ticket for the 2021 Concacaf Gold Cup and start preparations in earnest for the Qatar 2022 World Cup, technical committee chairman Keith Look Loy is set to unveil an even more ambitious proposal to the Board of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA).
Enter Project 2026: a plan designed to ensure that the local football body is not bogged down by short-term thinking at the expense of its future.
At present, Trinidad and Tobago are ranked 104th in the world by Fifa and 11th in Concacaf. The top nations in the confederation are, in order: Mexico, USA, Costa Rica, Jamaica, Honduras, El Salvador, Canada, Curaçao, Panama and Haiti.
The 2026 World Cup will be co-hosted by the United States, Mexico and Canada, and will be Fifa’s first tournament with 48 teams. Concacaf are expected to have six qualifying spots inclusive of the three host nations.
Through Project 2026, Look Loy hopes to see the Soca Warriors hurdle five of those nations in as many years. The proposal, which goes before the Board on Wednesday, includes several signposts along the way that can help gauge the success of the project, such as the 2022 CAC Games, the 2023 Pan American Games and the 2024 Olympic Games.
Wired868: Can you explain Project 2026 for our readers?
Look Loy: The aim is to prepare the World Cup team for 2026—it is self explanatory. We want to prepare a core group of players who will be approaching their prime by the time that the 2026 tournament comes around. So we are looking primarily at boys who were born on 1 January 1999 and after, which is essentially the last National Under-20 Team and the [Under-20] team that coach Derek King will now form. These boys will be between 25 to 27 years old—which we consider to be their prime years as players—by the 2026 World Cup.
Wired868: Is there a particular relevance to 2026?
Look Loy: The 2026 World Cup is to be played in North America: Canada, USA, Mexico—that is a tournament we have to participate in, so we should spare no pains to prepare a team for then. Starting now! This is going to be the first 48 team World Cup, so Concacaf will have more places and we absolutely have to be among them.
Wired868: Is this a case of filling a gap for these youth players who are not quite ready to hold down places on the National Senior Team?
Look Loy: Well, the last Under-20 Team and the Olympic generation was abandoned by [former TTFA president David] John-Williams when [his emergency committee] decided not to participate in the 2022 Olympics. So that is a gap in the education of the players and we ned to fill that gap.
Second, [former head coach Dennis] Lawrence had one of the oldest teams in Concacaf […] and we have to start thinking about the future.
We can expect [new Men’s National Senior Team head coach Terry] Fenwick will be calling his top players for the Fifa match window, so we propose that these boys will form what is essentially a National Senior ‘B’ team—although I don’t like the term ‘B team’—and they will also train under Fenwick but play outside of the Fifa window.
Maybe they will play Caribbean national teams or an English or MLS club, thereby affording them international football at a particular level outside of the National Senior Team. As they go on, we can get them tougher opposition. We will be building the culture and unity of a group that will be together for the next six years.
That is not the say that a boy [in this team] might not be part of the 2022 campaign but that is where we want to focus the talents of this group of players. We need to be giving our Under-23 players experience over the years against senior teams we think they can handle or that can stretch them, to build the next wave of Trinidad and Tobago attacks on the FIFA World Cup.
Wired868: What will it cost to create this team? And how many games per year does the technical committee believe they should have?
Look Loy: We do not have a budget yet. What I am hoping is the Board agrees on this idea in principle; and then we can see about finding the players, the finances, etc. Remember, this team will be under the control of the National Senior Team head coach.
The mantra within the national teams is ‘linkages’ and this system creates a better framework so that a guy can slide up easily from the youth team to the senior team; and that’s the point. The [technical] committee agrees with the idea and loves the idea and I am going to take it to the Board.
Wired868: We checked and exactly a third of the members of Trinidad and Tobago’s 1991, 2001, 2007 and 2009 World Youth Cup players went to win move than 10 National Senior Team caps. The figure drops to as low as 10 percent for youth teams that were not as successful. Is it that you are not satisfied with the number players who progress to the Senior Team?
(Six from 18 players at the 1991, 2001 World Cups and 10 from 30 players from the pool of 2007 and 2009 tournaments made the step up. From the 2012 and 2014 Under-20 teams, only two players from each—Alvin Jones and Jomal Williams (2012) and Levi Garcia and Neveal Hackshaw (2014)—got over 10 senior caps, although those players are now aged between 23 and 26.)
Look Loy: In any country that pathway from junior to senior level is a slippery one and a lot of players fall to the wayside. I think one of the reasons for that in the case of Trinidad and Tobago is that intermediate step from Under-20 to Senior level has never been consistently provided for our players. The abandonment of the Under-23 team is a perfect example of that
[…] So bridging that gap is precisely the aim of this project. We aim to marshall a group of 30 or 40 players or whatever is deemed appropriate and to blood them over the next few years. We are giving them a ladder or a springboard—whichever analogy you prefer.
I think that all concerned in the new TTFA are enamoured by the idea. The challenge, of course, is to finance it. Once we agree to go that way, we have to find the money for it.
Editor’s Note: The TTFA’s Board meeting for the selection of national coaches for the men’s and women’s teams has been shifted—for the second time—to Wednesday evening.
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Wired868: Is this a case of filling a gap for these youth players who are not quite ready to hold down places on the National Senior Team?
Look Loy: Well, the last Under-20 Team and the Olympic generation was abandoned by [former TTFA president David] John-Williams when [his emergency committee] decided not to participate in the 2022 Olympics. So that is a gap in the education of the players and we ned to fill that gap.
Second, [former head coach Dennis] Lawrence had one of the oldest teams in Concacaf […] and we have to start thinking about the future.
We can expect [new Men’s National Senior Team head coach Terry] Fenwick will be calling his top players for the Fifa match window, so we propose that these boys will form what is essentially a National Senior ‘B’ team—although I don’t like the term ‘B team’—and they will also train under Fenwick but play outside of the Fifa window.
Well at least they know what the problem is/was. Hopefully they get the money to get these programs moving.
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WATCH: Wide-ranging interview with Chairman of the TTFA Technical Committee, Keith Look Loy
https://www.youtube.com/v/9kh9jQ1dqu0
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Brilliant!
Well said on the process, structure, and succession of football leadership
Sad about the Corrupt planned FIFA Intervention
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Look Loy ponders legal action over defamatory stories
By Joel Bailey (T&T Newsday)
KEITH Look Loy, president of the T&T Super League and chairman of the TTFA technical committee, is pondering legal action over an Inside World Football article posted on Tuesday.
The article, written by Paul Nicholson, titled “TTFA bosses guaranteed marketing man Miller $600K” addresses the hiring of Englishman Peter Miller as TTFA marketing director. In the article, Look Loy was described as “the ringmaster behind the United TTFA circus that is rapidly unravelling.”
Details of Miller’s contract were reported on by Newsday last Friday in an article titled “Foul over two-year, $4m deal.”
Miller was guaranteed US$25,000 per month, over two years, with options for two one-year extensions. The deal was signed off by ousted TTFA president William Wallace, who has claimed Miller asked him to keep the deal secret. Miller told Newsday last week this was untrue. Interviewed by Newsday last Thursday, Look Loy said he was completely in the dark about Miller’s contract.
Contacted on Tuesday about the allegations made on insideworldfootball.com, Look Loy said, “I have asked my lawyers (Dr Emir) Crowne and (Matthew) Gayle to look at it in terms of defamation. This man has been writing for months, saying all kinds of incorrect stuff about me.
“This is just the latest,” Look Loy continued. “He’s blatantly fabricating stuff. This is not journalism.”
Look Loy, who has been an influential member of the United TTFA group led by Wallace, highlighted a couple of claims made by Nicholson in his “Miller $600K” piece.
“I have never drafted any contract with anybody,” said Look Loy, with regards to Fenwick’s contract, which was signed by Wallace paying US$20,000 instead of the US$17,500 agreed to by the TTFA board.
Look Loy said, “I made a submission to the board and the board made a decision that they would appoint Fenwick under certain conditions. That was the end of my involvement with this.”
Look Loy denied Nicholson’s claim that he plans to “run for the presidency of the (TTFA) when the FIFA normalisation committee organises fresh elections.”
According to the T&T Super League boss, “That is ludicrous. How long have I made it clear I have no intention of doing that? I made it clear that I plan to retire at the end of my tenure as (Super League) president in June next year.”
Look Loy insisted that he was never approached by Nicholson for a story, or even a comment.
“I don’t have an idea who this guy is or what he looks like,” said Look Loy. “He could be from Timbuktu. I have never spoken to him. He’s just writing whatever he please. It’s just half-truths, lies and fabrications.”
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Look Loy wants CONCACAF Qualifiers postponed.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).
Keith Look Loy, the driving force behind the formation of the United T&T Football Association (TTFA), is calling on the Caribbean Football Union (CFU), being led by Barbadian Randolph Harris, to seek the postponement of the CONCACAF World Cup Qualifiers which are scheduled to begin in October.
Look Loy yesterday said he believes the postponement of the tournament until next year is something that Harris and the CFU should be arguing for because of the outbreak of the deadly coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic which has already claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands around the world.
“Asia has already pushed its qualifiers back to 2021 (next year), and CONCACAF has postponed the CFU Club Championship, so why doesn't Harris do it in the interest of saving lives. It will be impossible to adhere to quarantine regulations because of the regularity at which matches are to be played,” said Look Loy.
The former FIFA Youth Development Officer pointed to a FIFA statement which prohibited players from being released from their clubs to represent their countries in UEFA World Cup Qualifiers because of the coronavirus. The draw for the qualifiers took place last week and it pooled T&T in a group with St Kitts/Nevis, Guyana, Bahamas and Puerto Rico, with only the winner progressing to the second round of the qualifiers.
National coach Terry Fenwick told Guardian Media Sports last week he sees the group as a promising one to emerge from, but financial constraints have put his team in an unfavourable position. Fenwick said he was told by Robert Hadad, chairman of the FIFA-appointed Normalisation Committee that his hands are tied from providing financial assistance to the team because of the ongoing court battle between the ousted United TTFA elected officers and the sport's supreme body - FIFA.
However, Look Loy took a swipe at the normalisation committee, calling on its members to access the more than $20 million sitting in the FIFA headquarters in Zurich, Switzerland because of the reluctance of the FIFA to hand it over because of the ongoing court battle.
“For Hadad, FIFA and the normalisation to say their hands are tied is an outright lie. They paid office staff and they have right now, in excess of $20 million, which represents grants and COVID Relief Funds etc. I am appealing to the normalisation committee to access the funding for the qualifying tournament in October.”
He said the reluctance of the normalisation committee to access the funding is a deliberate attempt to frustrate the United TTFA in its battle with the FIFA to have the appointment of the normalisation committee overturned. He explained that when they took over the management of the sport in November last year, the country saw for the first time in five years, a proper technical department.
He said, “For the first time we had national teams fully staffed and training. And at short notice, we had the Under-20 women's team compete in the Dominican Republic at the CONCACAF Tournament and reached the quarterfinal round, so our plans were working but then came FIFA and mashed up everything.”
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Look Loy: We’re not the bad guys.
Ian Prescott (Express).
The call by Commissioner Gary Griffith for “United TTFA” to end its local High Court action against world football governing body FIFA, has been met with a response by Keith Look Loy, spokesman of the group that also includes sidelined Trinidad and Tobago Football Association president Williams Wallace and his three vice-presidents.
“We are not the bad guys here,” Look Loy insisted, “We are playing by the rules.” Wallace and his three vice-presidents laid a claim before the High Court in May, challenging FIFA’s decision to replace their four-month TTFA executive with its Normalisation Committee on March 17.
FIFA’s laws forbid its member associations from resolving disputes against it in local courts and has implied that the country could be facing a ban-- possibly as early as next month --from international football. FIFA has mandated that Wallace and company should take the dispute to the international Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) instead.
“Nobody wins if we go down the road via the local court, especially for our country, for our football development, and for the dreams of many, not just players, but the hundreds of thousands of supporters who would lose the opportunity to dream of one day seeing a repeat of what we achieved in 2006,” Griffith’s statement said.
“The end cannot justify the means by the present course of action, because as with any mission, one cannot just look at the short-term result, but instead look towards the domino effect, as it relates to what would trigger another reaction by FIFA. This is what any good leader, manager, administrator, player, supporter or patriot of football would do in this situation.”
Look Loy suggests that his group had been forced into its current action.
“We went the CAS route. FIFA refused to pay its share of the CAS fee. We came to Trinidad. They said they would not recognise the court,” stated Look Loy. “They lost the case and now they going to a second court, although they said they would not recognise a Trinidad and Tobago court. We have been trying to get mediation since March.”
A former national hockey player, Commissioner Griffith felt the future of local football was at stake. “Unfortunately, this is not a time to remain silent, as it is the future of our football that can be affected, and it may take years to recover if we go a certain direction,” Griffith said.
He added: “Now is a time for us to make a decision to find a way to rectify this situation via dialogue, compromise and mutual respect between all relevant parties, because the present agenda to fight a war with FIFA in a local court may not be the best way, as everyone would lose, which no-one wants, inclusive of FIFA, United TTFA and the many football players and supporters in this country.”
Look Loy’s reply was that the ex-TTFA executive had tried unsuccessfully to mediate. “The TTFA has written six times to Infantino (and) FIFA,” Look Loy said. “We have been the ones trying to seek mediation. This idea by Gary Griffith is not a new one and FIFA has not even responded.”
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mr Keith look Loy I salute you for steadfastly standing up for justice , you have served both on and off the field admirably , that cannot be easily discounted . I have been one of many Who supported you , as well as your United ttfa and will remain so . To that end i say thank you immensely for your contribution to country and the beautiful game ( football ) , this is a sad day indeed ! Much respect to you mr Keith look Loy thanks again! ........
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Keith Look Loy resigns from all T&T football
T&T Guardian
Four days after the embattled T&T Football Association (TTFA) president William Wallace and his United TTFA executive team won their controversial lawsuit against FIFA in the T&T High Court when Judge Carol Gobin ruled that FIFA's move to appoint a Normalisation Committee led by businessman Robert Hadad to replace Wallace and his team was illegal, null and void and of no effect, Keith Look Loy, who was instrumental in the United TTFA team battle in every aspect and at every stage, has resigned.
His resignation also comes less than 24-hours after Wallace and third vice-president Joseph Sam Phillip met Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley, Stuart Young, the Minister of National Security and Shamfa Cudjoe, the Minister of Sport and Community Development at the Office of the Prime Minister at the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann’s to find a way forward for the sport.
Look Loy, who has been at the centre of all the United TTFA decisions leading up the TTFA elections on November 24, 2019, and then challenging FIFA to remove the elected officers of the TTFA in court, was not invited to the PM meeting.
Keith Look Loy's resignation statement:
"On Wednesday 14 October Justice Carol Gobin delivered her judgment in the matter of TTFA v FIFA, declaring the William Wallace administration to be the lawful leadership of the Association. As promised by United TTFA, an Extraordinary General Meeting of TTFA's membership has been called for 25 October. As a member of the TTFA Board I approved the calling of that meeting. Now that the central issue of the legality of FIFA's actions has been adjudicated, it is time for TTFA's membership to decide the immediate political direction of the Association.
For my part, I have run my race - not only in this matter but in football as a whole. In the aftermath of the seven month battle between United TTFA and FIFA, with conflicting emotions I resign the positions of TTSL President, TTFA Board member, and TTFA Technical Committee chairman. These resignations are effective immediately.
I was born in 1953 under British colonial rule, which our people historically resisted. I am old enough to remember the raising of "the red, white and black" at magical midnight on 31 August 1962, under the watchful eye of Dr. Eric Williams. Today we are the sovereign Republic of Trinidad and Tobago, responsible for and to ourselves. I have experienced the transition from subject of a foreign power to citizen of a sovereign state, and I have lived the joys and sorrows, the highs and lows of independence from foreign rule.
Football has been my lifelong love and labour. I participated in and represented Trinidad and Tobago football, on and off the field, for more than fifty years. Never did I think the day would come when a foreign entity would attempt to seize control of our football. To see many fellow citizens hysterically rationalize, aid and abet this is unbearable.
I will always stand by the sovereignty of our country, its laws and its institutions. I am proud to be a member of United TTFA, which won the historic legal campaign to reject FIFA's grotesque and illegal attempt at external intervention. The rule of Law in Trinidad and Tobago has been upheld by our independent court. But the import of this victory is not limited to our shores. It bears global significance. Trinidad and Tobago has now set the stage for other countries to challenge FIFA's arrogant and brutal approach to global football governance. And the spotlight is now on FIFA, which must end its arbitrary and weaponized deployment of the Normalization Committee against administrations it does not favour, and which must now institute objective criteria and proper protocols for the use of said Committee to resolve legitimate and intractable governance problems in member Associations.
On Sunday 25 October the membersip will be faced with choices: to support the Wallace administration in its other legal battles (in the Appeal Court and in CAS); to call on Wallace to end the legal campaign; to call on him and the officers to resign or to seek to remove them; to call on the government to amend Act 10 of 1982 to allow for FIFA intervention in TTFA governance; and to call on FIFA to enter Trinidad and Tobago to exert control over TTFA. Such is Democracy and I will respect it. But I remove myself from the equation. I will not be involved in that debate because I believe the legal campaign has run its course, and no matter the decision in either legal forum, it is the membership that will have to decide on TTFA's immediate direction. Sunday 25 October is Ground Zero.
In the grand scheme of things, however, it is clear to me that the membership wishes to participate in global football even if it means bowing to FIFA, and voluntarily ceding our right to govern ourselves and to resolve the problems and crises of our independence and sovereignty. I accept that political reality.
When the founding members of our league invited me, on its establishment on13 December 2016, to become interim President, I made it clear I would serve one, and only ONE, term of office. Office holds no irresistible charm for me. After the League successfully fought David John-Williams for TTFA membership, my official term of office began upon my election in August 2017 (to end in August 2021). So I depart early.
It has been an honour and and a privilege to serve Trinidad and Tobago football these many decades, and as Super League President for just over three years. I sincerely thank the TTSL Board, all the comrades in arms and member clubs who supported me in pursuing the league's agenda, even in the most difficult times, and in defending its autonomy from external and internal attack. I thank my United TTFA comrades - William Wallace, Clynt Taylor, Susan Joseph-Warrick, Joseph Sam Phillip and Anthony Harford - and our intrepid legal representatives - Matthew Gayle, Dr. Emir Crowne, Jason Jones and Crystal Paul of New City Chambers - for fearlessly standing against Goliath in defence of principle and the dignity of our people.
Now my work is done, and I leave the league financially solvent and politically strong. But I caution the membership to be vigilant, to guard their independence jealously. I make way for those who wish to assume the leadership of the Super League, and who believe they could do better. I leave Trinidad and Tobago football, head high and satisfied that I made my contribution with the best of intentions and to the best of my ability. Ultimately, the lasting judgment of our actions will be provided by History."
Good luck to all.
"What we do now echoes in eternity." Meditations (Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor and philosopher, 121 to 180 AD).
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Play it for them Mr Look Loy... Fine Job. Never done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-P5uVvhT1A
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The net result here is akin to tossing the baby out with the bathwater.
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The net result here is akin to tossing the baby out with the bathwater.
sadly. Although, I do think it's a necessary strategic move to get people of their asses. They would gladly sitback , cuss, bad talk, back stab and do nothing otherwise. He has brought us to the right place, I hope they don't put us back.
add: just realize, ah praying...for a acouple hours forgot which country we talkin bout..xcusez eh
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I will use a local cricket terminology. Good Knock, Keith. I know You can drive many or most of us up a wall when You get into an argument. But on this occasion You have stand your ground and stated your case well( in most parts). What I want to see, is if the high court rules against Justice Gobin's verdict, what will TT parliament do. Or more so Rowley. Will he have them strip TTFA from the constitution or what. I want the rest to resign and leh we move on.
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Courageous in battle, humble in victory. After years of disgraceful ethics Mr. Look Loy sets an excellent example. Well played
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I may have said it before, but I worked directly with Keith to put all of the 2018 Super League data on their website (line ups, rosters, scorers, etc.). He was a fantastic collaborator and went the extra mile to obtain the correct information when required -- something that I have often found lacking in my work in Caribbean football. To compare with the Pro League, I have reached out to the relevant parties on several occasions to do the same with their stats over the years, and they do not even reply. I understand Keith can be a polarizing figure at times, but I found that he simply demands professionalism, and that if you give him that, he will reciprocate.
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WATCH: United TTFA power broker Keith Look Loy resigns from football
https://www.youtube.com/v/Mb1R8V5R4fk
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WATCH: United TTFA power broker Keith Look Loy resigns from football
https://www.youtube.com/v/Mb1R8V5R4fk
Dear SportsMax, that's a narrow reading of the precedential import and legacy of this matter. More to follow.
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I may have said it before, but I worked directly with Keith to put all of the 2018 Super League data on their website (line ups, rosters, scorers, etc.). He was a fantastic collaborator and went the extra mile to obtain the correct information when required -- something that I have often found lacking in my work in Caribbean football. To compare with the Pro League, I have reached out to the relevant parties on several occasions to do the same with their stats over the years, and they do not even reply. I understand Keith can be a polarizing figure at times, but I found that he simply demands professionalism, and that if you give him that, he will reciprocate.
Boom! There it is! People tend not to like their feet held to the fire, but bunnin "fiyah" separates the wheat from the chaff and distinguishes lions from the lambs.
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i don't give ah rats ass who have faith in trinidad and tobago as a nation in it's entirety, i will go out on a limb and proclaim that trinidad and tobago as a nation on the whole will never reach a level where the population by and large could feel proud that their tax and petro dollars have worked well for them.
for the past few years i have been back and forth to that country and it's evident that it's the quint essential pirate's paradise with plunderers masquerading as administrators on all levels, where even those who are genuinely patriotic and wants better for the country, are impeded by character issues which is obviously detrimental to progress.
I must admit that as bad as things are in that country i would be very dishonest if i didn't applaud the present government for their efforts, but in the grand scheme of things, even their efforts are insufficient to fix such a poorly managed state predicated over the decades with corruption theft and nepotism especially with the NGOs.
this whole debacle with the TTFA and FIFA is a re-occurring decimal, a never ending nightmare, a hellish merry go round as far back as i could remember, and i don't think it will ever end, at least not any time soon, and especially not with people like brent sancho, selby brown, keiron edwards, DJW and the string-band of self serving asswipes who have any kind of say in football.
it's so hard to sit and watch pirates and marauders with absolutely no ideas take over an organization that so many young people rely on for their future careers, think over the many decades too many young steadfast talented lads have lost out because of spite and greed, which shouldn’t be, especially when we have steadfast resourceful people like keith look loy, shaka hislop, kelvin jack and clint taylor who only care about football and wants to push the sport forward, but is denied the opportunity by those who see football as a means to an end.
as for me, i have to find a way to ween my self off TT football, it's only right for my health. it's never a good idea to hold on to things that cause you grief, as i've learned very well when i dated a slag for a few years, and i believe we all know as grown men that there's nothing more painful than loving someone who doesn't love and respect themselves, and the only smart thing to do in that regard is to walk away from such a person no matter how much you care for them, simply because there's never going to be any future rewards in that endeavor. i think that sums up TT football in a nutshell... pretty much..... the bad blood chick you can't shake.
as for me, i have travelled with this team many times (not boasting), sat in many stadiums and watch in bemusement the poorly executed game plans, simple text book errors that semi pro footballers avoid, the lack of commitment by top key players, the repetitive mistakes by defenders, poor passing skill by midfielders, over dribbling and poor decision making by forwards who are not efficient ball handlers, atrocious first touches that caused us to miss out of goal scoring opportunities, and i'm saying all this to say that we are not serious about football in TT to say the least.
these lads who we send out there are terrible with the exception of a few, and are ill prepared to go out there and play with young men and women who are far better trained and conditioned. what we need is developmental programs and we need it as soon as yesterday. we also need to throw away that turtle pace league and create a better league from scratch, with good attendance, affordable ticket pricing, great concession stands, sports shops, great coaching staff and most of all, it must be in the community of these teams, or not very far from it, or it will never work.
all over england there are league 2 and conference teams where people literally walk to games or take the tube one stop away from their homes, unless of course you live outside the area but still support the team. I remember taking a cool stroll to home games with my uncles and the vibe was electric, and be it win lose or draw we all gathered at the corner pub to celebrate or drink our sorrows away, none the less all this was done in the community, why can't trinis with all the bloody brains they claim to have, are not able to figure that one out as of yet. i can't with these sorry people, i just can't, it's way too much for anyone to bare.
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WATCH: United TTFA power broker Keith Look Loy resigns from football
https://www.youtube.com/v/Mb1R8V5R4fk
Good riddance thank you for destroying TT football you silly fool hopefully on October 25th W Wallace and the other clowns will be leaving too.
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WATCH: United TTFA power broker Keith Look Loy resigns from football
https://www.youtube.com/v/Mb1R8V5R4fk
Good riddance thank you for destroying TT football you silly fool hopefully on October 25th W Wallace and the other clowns will be leaving too.
why do you even come here when no one shares your view? it’s like you’re only here to troll the membership and stir up trouble. it would serve your purpose better if you went to wired888 or some other chat groups who share your sentiment. as for the members here, we supported the United ttfa, at least most of us do and I don’t think it’s polite to come here and lay your ugly ass eggs in hostile territory.
as for mr look loy, you would be fortunate if you had a fraction of 1% of the care and concern for football as mr look loy, not to mention his principles, but I’m not surprised with your gall, after all you supported DJW a man who did more damage to football than all football presidents combined, imagine being worst than Oliver camps? I thought I’d never see a president worst than mr camps.
So be my guess and troll away, enjoy yourself if you may, because football would never rise in this country with people like you and brent sancho, clueless spineless hungry belly trinis with no vision and zero knowhow and drive.
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WATCH: United TTFA power broker Keith Look Loy resigns from football
https://www.youtube.com/v/Mb1R8V5R4fk
Good riddance thank you for destroying TT football you silly fool hopefully on October 25th W Wallace and the other clowns will be leaving too.
I can understand why some people couldn't recognize integrity if they were staring it in the face. After so many years of corruption and catastrophic mis-management they lack an internal/external frame of reference. Integrity is not always textbook, but this is what it looks like.
"I don’t think it’s polite to come here and lay your ugly ass eggs in hostile territory."
LOL brilliant!
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WATCH: United TTFA power broker Keith Look Loy resigns from football
https://www.youtube.com/v/Mb1R8V5R4fk
Good riddance thank you for destroying TT football you silly fool hopefully on October 25th W Wallace and the other clowns will be leaving too.
why do you even come here when no one shares your view? it’s like you’re only here to troll the membership and stir up trouble. it would serve your purpose better if you went to wired888 or some other chat groups who share your sentiment. as for the members here, we supported the United ttfa, at least most of us do and I don’t think it’s polite to come here and lay your ugly ass eggs in hostile territory.
as for mr look loy, you would be fortunate if you had a fraction of 1% of the care and concern for football as mr look loy, not to mention his principles, but I’m not surprised with your gall, after all you supported DJW a man who did more damage to football than all football presidents combined, imagine being worst than Oliver camps? I thought I’d never see a president worst than mr camps.
So be my guess and troll away, enjoy yourself if you may, because football would never rise in this country with people like you and brent sancho, clueless spineless hungry belly trinis with no vision and zero knowhow and drive.
For the record it was Tim Kee that put the TTFA in death he is the 1 that signed all those inflated contracts to his friends that do not deserve it DJW had to clean up his mess he was a business man so he had to make some business decisions DJW like most people in TT has accepted mediocrity as success which is just not good enough in the international stage.
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WATCH: United TTFA power broker Keith Look Loy resigns from football
https://www.youtube.com/v/Mb1R8V5R4fk
Good riddance thank you for destroying TT football you silly fool hopefully on October 25th W Wallace and the other clowns will be leaving too.
why do you even come here when no one shares your view? it’s like you’re only here to troll the membership and stir up trouble. it would serve your purpose better if you went to wired888 or some other chat groups who share your sentiment. as for the members here, we supported the United ttfa, at least most of us do and I don’t think it’s polite to come here and lay your ugly ass eggs in hostile territory.
as for mr look loy, you would be fortunate if you had a fraction of 1% of the care and concern for football as mr look loy, not to mention his principles, but I’m not surprised with your gall, after all you supported DJW a man who did more damage to football than all football presidents combined, imagine being worst than Oliver camps? I thought I’d never see a president worst than mr camps.
So be my guess and troll away, enjoy yourself if you may, because football would never rise in this country with people like you and brent sancho, clueless spineless hungry belly trinis with no vision and zero knowhow and drive.
For the record it was Tim Kee that put the TTFA in death he is the 1 that signed all those inflated contracts to his friends that do not deserve it DJW had to clean up his mess he was a business man so he had to make some business decisions DJW like most people in TT has accepted mediocrity as success which is just not good enough in the international stage.
Go ahead blame Tim Kee. He inherited the bullshit TTFF from Jack Warner who take all the money and spent it on his political voyage. He is the one that left TT football in the mess. I did not see any one from the business making any bold step to assist Tim Kee. Not even Hadad. Not even the govt.
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From Eric James, Jack Warner and the rest that trickle towards the bottle neck and squeeze it to get de last drop. There's no zero to hero in the case of local football admin! As far back as I can remember there were always football admin problems that never got taken care of. One day it was bound to catch up with them. Sad sad sad
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WATCH: United TTFA power broker Keith Look Loy resigns from football
https://www.youtube.com/v/Mb1R8V5R4fk
Good riddance thank you for destroying TT football you silly fool hopefully on October 25th W Wallace and the other clowns will be leaving too.
why do you even come here when no one shares your view? it’s like you’re only here to troll the membership and stir up trouble. it would serve your purpose better if you went to wired888 or some other chat groups who share your sentiment. as for the members here, we supported the United ttfa, at least most of us do and I don’t think it’s polite to come here and lay your ugly ass eggs in hostile territory.
as for mr look loy, you would be fortunate if you had a fraction of 1% of the care and concern for football as mr look loy, not to mention his principles, but I’m not surprised with your gall, after all you supported DJW a man who did more damage to football than all football presidents combined, imagine being worst than Oliver camps? I thought I’d never see a president worst than mr camps.
So be my guess and troll away, enjoy yourself if you may, because football would never rise in this country with people like you and brent sancho, clueless spineless hungry belly trinis with no vision and zero knowhow and drive.
For the record it was Tim Kee that put the TTFA in death he is the 1 that signed all those inflated contracts to his friends that do not deserve it DJW had to clean up his mess he was a business man so he had to make some business decisions DJW like most people in TT has accepted mediocrity as success which is just not good enough in the international stage.
Go spin that web elsewhere mate, maybe among people who only know that there's football in TT when the team is doing well and has a chance to qualify for the world cup, but you'll never get that rubbish past me, i don't even know why you try.
when mr timkee entered the presidency he met a huge debt from the impasse where the judge ruled in favor of the world cup players, i believe they were owed around 11 million or maybe mr timkee negotiated an 11 million pay out, he also decided to pay all the small contractors who were owed millions under oliver camps and jack warner's tenure, even when he didn't have too.
mr timkee also had to borrow money to keep the federation going and despite being cash strapped would often play international friendly games at home, unlike his successor who prefer travelling 99% of the times using the lads like a slag pimp by loaning them out to every other federation to be embarrassed all over the globe, and just so that he could collect match fees for himself so he could hoard away in off shore accounts.
you have no shame to stand in defense of your fat thieving friend to convince us that he was somehow good for football. the fat wanker has brought our senior mens fifa rankings from 49 to 103 knowing all to well that the lads rely on our rating to secure contracts in the UK and other super leagues in europe, adding to that no teams went to the concacaf champions league for the first time in the history of our pro league.
there was no women's program, and all other teams grossly under perform during his tenure while his pet coaches took us down the proverbial toilet. when he was finally ousted from the presidency he was owing 50 million while mr timkee left a debt in the vicinity of 12 million, while DJW ran up a 35 million debt with unpaid coaches and players, and it might be more than 35 million after all, because i understand that there are contractors who are coming out the wood work with outstretched hands demanding payment for services rendered.
and the worst part in all this is that this man still found the time to stash away over two million dollars in panama, while the federation is in dire straights, and instead of stepping aside and letting the new federation do better for football, he went behind the scenes and collaborated with fifa to suspend the elected federation just so he could cover his tracks.
people like you, brent sancho, selby brown and jamal shabbaz should be strung up by your balls and literally stoned for supporting that fat wicked ugly bastard. it's flawed thinking like yours that has the country laden with crime, there's no love for law, order and doing what is right.
that country will never succeed especially going up against other nations, be it sports or otherwise, until there's a level of progressive forward thinking and integrity instilled into the up coming generation of babies and toddlers, that's how long it will take to see any kind of success in TT. you people are much too self serving and slack. you will never win with that attitude.
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TTSL board wants Look Loy to stay on.
By Walter Alibey (T&T Guardian).
A flat-out rejection of Jameson Rigues, to fill the position of interim president following the resignation of Keith Look Loy as president of the T&T Super League, seems to be heading for a showdown, or even in the courtroom.
Look Loy, a long-standing figure in local football resigned his positions of T&T Football Association Board member, T&T Super League president and chairman of the Technical Committee of the T&TFA on Friday, thereby clearing the way for Jameson Rigues, the former Guaya United manager to take over in an interim position until the Annual General Meeting (AGM) which Guardian Media Sports understands will take place in December despite the organisation constitution which states that it need to take oplace in November.
However, at a meeting of the TTSL Board on Monday night, that included Rigues, Colin Murray, Anderson Veronique, Terry Joseph and Eddie Dean, the members voted to ask Look Loy to hold on a while longer until the AGM.
A letter sent to Look Loy after the meeting stated: "The Board of the T&T Super League (TTSL) held its first virtual Board Meeting yesterday afternoon, Monday 19th October 2020 since your resignation of immediate effect on Friday 17th October 2020. The 1st Vice President, Jamieson Rigues opened the meeting by discussing your resignation from the Board and stated what a valuable contribution you have made to the Trinidad and Tobago Super League (TTSL) during your tenure and to football as a whole in our twin-island republic. The other members of the Board echoed his sentiments. After some discussion, and in light of the turbulent time T&T football is currently undergoing, the Board unanimously asked me- Eddie Dean, to write this correspondence on their behalf requesting the postponement of your resignation until the 2020 Annual General Meeting (AGM) of the TTSL. The Board of the T&T Super League (TTSL) hopes you will give this request consideration and eagerly awaits your response."
However, Rigues in an immediate response said the members went against the constitution of the TTSL.
According to Rigues: "I made it known to the board that I am not in agreement with that, because if we abide by the TTSL By-Laws, which is a legal document, this document is clear, in various articles, as to what has to happen if the president resigns.
Currently, I sit in the chair, as per what the By-laws outlines, therefore, I represent the organization legally. If any legal issue arise out of this matter, I will have to answer. The president was elected by the membership, he was not appointed by the board and it should be up to the members to decide if Mr. Look Loy's resignation should be rejected or accepted following his decision to sever ties with the organisation on Friday.
So, for me, we must consider those who are for and those who are against. The board should be writing to the membership to ask their opinion on rejecting Keith's resignation, not writing Keith to beg him to come back."
Rigues said he knew he never had any support on the Board but was hoping. One member of the Board who did not want to be identified said he believed the TTSL was the best-run competition in the T&T under Look Loy, but he made it clear though, that that was not the basis for the decision to ask Look Loy, the Santa Rosa FC coach and owner to stay on.
When contacted on Tuesday by Guardian Media Sports on the Board's decision and willingness to have him stay on until the AGM Look Loy response:
"Comrades of the Super League Board,
I appreciate your assessment of my importance to both the league and Trinidad and Tobago football. The relationship we have cultivated over the past years require me to treat your request seriously. However, I have not taken the decision to resign flippantly and you know me to be a man of my word. As I said in my resignation letter, "I have run my race". I have given what I have to give and now you, the members of the Board, in whom I have every confidence must continue to move the league forward without me.
Moreover, in the era of FIFA's Normalization Committee, which we evidently are about to embark upon, I consider my departure to be in the best interest of the league, i.e. to eliminate any victimization from the FIFA sponsored and other power brokers.
Once again, I wish you every success and you have my support."
Meanwhile, Look Loy, a former national youth player, had played a key role in the United TTFA legal battle against FIFA since March.
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I swear I’ve never seen a more disgruntled dissatisfied uneasy people in the whole wide world, these people reminds me of the ole Tarzan movies I’ve watched as a child where the natives were constantly in disarray and in a quandary. these people belong in grass skirts and war painted faces from the politicians to the vagrants on the pavement sleeping on cardboard boxes.
Is it so hard for these people to even sit down quietly and resolve their differences without getting the press involved, and why didn’t mr look loy leave his organization in order before he took off? boy oh boy these people here.
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I swear I’ve never seen a more disgruntled dissatisfied uneasy people in the whole wide world, these people reminds me of the ole Tarzan movies I’ve watched as a child where the natives were constantly in disarray and in a quandary. these people belong in grass skirts and war painted faces from the politicians to the vagrants on the pavement sleeping on cardboard boxes.
Is it so hard for these people to even sit down quietly and resolve their differences without getting the press involved, and why didn’t mr look loy leave his organizatb]ion in order before he took off? boy oh boy these people here.
How so?
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WATCH: United TTFA power broker Keith Look Loy resigns from football
https://www.youtube.com/v/Mb1R8V5R4fk
Good riddance thank you for destroying TT football you silly fool hopefully on October 25th W Wallace and the other clowns will be leaving too.
why do you even come here when no one shares your view? it’s like you’re only here to troll the membership and stir up trouble. it would serve your purpose better if you went to wired888 or some other chat groups who share your sentiment. as for the members here, we supported the United ttfa, at least most of us do and I don’t think it’s polite to come here and lay your ugly ass eggs in hostile territory.
as for mr look loy, you would be fortunate if you had a fraction of 1% of the care and concern for football as mr look loy, not to mention his principles, but I’m not surprised with your gall, after all you supported DJW a man who did more damage to football than all football presidents combined, imagine being worst than Oliver camps? I thought I’d never see a president worst than mr camps.
So be my guess and troll away, enjoy yourself if you may, because football would never rise in this country with people like you and brent sancho, clueless spineless hungry belly trinis with no vision and zero knowhow and drive.
For the record it was Tim Kee that put the TTFA in death he is the 1 that signed all those inflated contracts to his friends that do not deserve it DJW had to clean up his mess he was a business man so he had to make some business decisions DJW like most people in TT has accepted mediocrity as success which is just not good enough in the international stage.
Go spin that web elsewhere mate, maybe among people who only know that there's football in TT when the team is doing well and has a chance to qualify for the world cup, but you'll never get that rubbish past me, i don't even know why you try.
when mr timkee entered the presidency he met a huge debt from the impasse where the judge ruled in favor of the world cup players, i believe they were owed around 11 million or maybe mr timkee negotiated an 11 million pay out, he also decided to pay all the small contractors who were owed millions under oliver camps and jack warner's tenure, even when he didn't have too.
mr timkee also had to borrow money to keep the federation going and despite being cash strapped would often play international friendly games at home, unlike his successor who prefer travelling 99% of the times using the lads like a slag pimp by loaning them out to every other federation to be embarrassed all over the globe, and just so that he could collect match fees for himself so he could hoard away in off shore accounts.
you have no shame to stand in defense of your fat thieving friend to convince us that he was somehow good for football. the fat wanker has brought our senior mens fifa rankings from 49 to 103 knowing all to well that the lads rely on our rating to secure contracts in the UK and other super leagues in europe, adding to that no teams went to the concacaf champions league for the first time in the history of our pro league.
there was no women's program, and all other teams grossly under perform during his tenure while his pet coaches took us down the proverbial toilet. when he was finally ousted from the presidency he was owing 50 million while mr timkee left a debt in the vicinity of 12 million, while DJW ran up a 35 million debt with unpaid coaches and players, and it might be more than 35 million after all, because i understand that there are contractors who are coming out the wood work with outstretched hands demanding payment for services rendered.
and the worst part in all this is that this man still found the time to stash away over two million dollars in panama, while the federation is in dire straights, and instead of stepping aside and letting the new federation do better for football, he went behind the scenes and collaborated with fifa to suspend the elected federation just so he could cover his tracks.
people like you, brent sancho, selby brown and jamal shabbaz should be strung up by your balls and literally stoned for supporting that fat wicked ugly bastard. it's flawed thinking like yours that has the country laden with crime, there's no love for law, order and doing what is right.
that country will never succeed especially going up against other nations, be it sports or otherwise, until there's a level of progressive forward thinking and integrity instilled into the up coming generation of babies and toddlers, that's how long it will take to see any kind of success in TT. you people are much too self serving and slack. you will never win with that attitude.
You got it wrong mate Kamala and the people partnership is the 1 that pay off the players Tim Kee is the 1 that give out all those bogus contracts so that's his depth Look Loy William Wallace and Tim Kee was all Jack Warner stoop pigeons they all just a waste of time.
It was Eric Williams that train Eric James then he train Jack Warner then he train the next generation of lossers so don't blame me blame yourself for propping up that corrupted regime.
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ffisback, you're absolutely driven by the sound of your own words aren't you? mate you've said nothing to solidify your claim on anyone seeing anything good coming out the three years DJW wasted in couva i'm afraid.
you have failed to explain how it is that you met the federation with 12 million dollars in debt, and by the time your tenure is over it ballooned to 50 million, what about that is not clear? what contract could mr timkee possibly gave out that left the federation holding a 50 million dollar bag?
dennis the menace was getting 17,000 US steve hart was getting 20,000 US and he's still owed months of unpaid salaries, so what contracts did mr timkee negotiated that ran up such a huge bill when most of his workers were volunteers, please explain in detail? we would like to know.
you have done nothing but ramble and wank around the subject with no facts or evidence to your claim, and what is even more ridiculous is that you jumped on the UNC /PNM train about eric williams with eric james and jack warner being prodigies of the former PM just to score cheap points, all irrelevant shit, like a well fed dog chasing a garbage truck.
what is relevant is that your big stink ugly ass friend ran up a huge bill, brought down the federation and every team on his way down with him and his selfish unethical practices, and then walked away leaving the ttfa's house in disarray, that's like someone who claim to hate oppression but endorses adolph hitler as a good leader, your actions are contrary to your words by trying to pass an oppressor as a liberator. have you no shame mate?
the bottom line is that DJW came in and did worst than any other federation president past or present, and you could turn that and twist that to suite your argument all you want, the truth is there no spinning that to make anyone who lived the story, to buy your argument, it's like trying to fit a square peg....... well you know the rest, it will never fit. stop wasting your time, the fat boy was poisonous for football, let him go back and wank up his own cheezey club and leave national football be.
and don't bother responding because i will not engage you anymore with this toss. you have no clue, you just love to argue for no bloody reason other than just for the sake of being a tremendous rear ache.