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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Dynamite Warrior on August 17, 2011, 12:28:29 PM
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Thanks boss!
Hyland is going to get to attack. The formation shows him playing ahead of a defensive mid.
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We boy in de starting XI!!!!
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Goal MH steups!
Genk losing possession way too much in midfield right now!!
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Hyland got lucky should have been a penal.
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Yeh Hyland need to cool it, free kick right on the line. The free kick comes off the bar. Haifa outplayin them badly.
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Link..
http://www.atdhenet.tv/38663/watch-maccabi-haifa-vs-racing-genk
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Genk eh ready fuh Haifa
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Genk good for 5. This team look disjointed and amateur. They need more men in the midfield.
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Genk good for 5. This team look disjointed and amateur. They need more men in the midfield.
De poor passing driving me mad watching dem!! Dey shoulda done collect about 4 or 5. It seems only Hyland showing decent composure and not making a majority of bad passes like his teammates
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The right back getting overlapped every 5 mins. He remind me of Anthony Wolfe in the Nashville game a couple years ago.
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The right back getting overlapped every 5 mins. He remind me of Anthony Wolfe in the Nashville game a couple years ago.
Dat rell bad considering Wolfe eh no defender and was outta he depth.
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2-1 That's a valuable away goal for Genk.
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HUGE away goal for Genk
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How Hyland played?
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2 - 1 away from home isn't the worst scoreline. Macaiba Haifa aren't the best travellers. So lets hope Genk can put the tie away at their home.
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Much better 2nd half for Genk. I though Hyland played well, he tried to pass the ball and work hard in defence (which is saying alot considering how Genk played in the 1st).
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How Hyland played?
I didn't see the game, just followed the text commentary but he covered the most distance for any Genk player. From his heat-trail most of his work was in his own half and he also got 2 shots on target. This is all from the stats though. Those who saw the game will be able to give a much better idea.
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Good taste for Hyland. Let him develop. Would really be good for his development if they were to win the return leg. Away goal could prove to be priceless.
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How Hyland played?
Hyland played a lot of defense today and was good at covering gaps. He seemed to be the most composed passer in the first half as almost every other player for Genk was making errant passes one after the next. He seemed to run off the ball well when you were able to see him after a pass and was very active overall.
I think Genk main issue was that the players were too far from the ball especially in the first half. Most of their passes were to targets 20yrds away or more and Haifa closed those gaps well causing them to steal the ball in midfield far too often. Genk had a better second half but the score is still flattering considering Haifa should have had about 4 in the first half alone.
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Hyland was doing a lot of support work, making sure he was near the ball but not pushing forward too much. I think that's how he played for Waregem.
Like scorpion said he was making composed passes throughout.
He had a decent shot soon before he came off that the keeper parried to the big Genk striker who then had an attempt which the keeper saved.
He came off with around 15 mins left.
Genk really need to come better if they want to progress.
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From what I saw, it seems to me that Hyland wanted no part of the ball. It looked like he was out of position. If his role was playmaker then he was woeful. It seemed like he was hiding from the ball. When he did get the ball a couple times outside the box he was blanketed and could not collect cleanly, and it was as though he was not expecting the pass. The half hearted attempt at a tackle was basically from a player who was caught in two minds, should I or shouldn't I and it almost cost his team a penalty or a goal or both. For the most part, I was not impressed with his play. He, just like the entire Genk team except for the goal scorer, Barda, had no impact on the game. They acted like a team that did not get enough sleep. It seemed like they were jetlagged as well and their timing, and it showed in their passes, was a split second too late to the man in the open position. They also looked like a team that had never played together before and did not know what to expect or where the passes were coming from. It was just a poor all around performance by a team that's supposedly one of the top teams in the Belgian League.
Genk is lucky to have lost a 2 - 1 game to Haifa. They must elevate the level of their game from their defence that sleep walked through the entire game to the midfield that never looked in sync with each other and could not link up with their frontmen. At one point in the first half Haifa statiscally had a better passing game connecting with their passes 91 times to Genk's 35. The game in the second half did not improve that much for either team especially for Haifa, who it seemed had taken their feet off the pedal. They basically let Genk off the hook.
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Good experience for Hyland...better luck in the next match...
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From what I saw, it seems to me that Hyland wanted no part of the ball. It looked like he was out of position. If his role was playmaker then he was woeful. It seemed like he was hiding from the ball. When he did get the ball a couple times outside the box he was blanketed and could not collect cleanly, and it was as though he was not expecting the pass. The half hearted attempt at a tackle was basically from a player who was caught in two minds, should I or shouldn't I and it almost cost his team a penalty or a goal or both. For the most part, I was not impressed with his play. He, just like the entire Genk team except for the goal scorer, Barda, had no impact on the game. They acted like a team that did not get enough sleep. It seemed like they were jetlagged as well and their timing, and it showed in their passes, was a split second too late to the man in the open position. They also looked like a team that had never played together before and did not know what to expect or where the passes were coming from. It was just a poor all around performance by a team that's supposedly one of the top teams in the Belgian League.
Genk is lucky to have lost a 2 - 1 game to Haifa. They must elevate the level of their game from their defence that sleep walked through the entire game to the midfield that never looked in sync with each other and could not link up with their frontmen. At one point in the first half Haifa statiscally had a better passing game connecting with their passes 91 times to Genk's 35. The game in the second half did not improve that much for either team especially for Haifa, who it seemed had taken their feet off the pedal. They basically let Genk off the hook.
So what if his role was defensive mid? Are you still going with your no furs, no fan, no goals, no good verdict?
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Good experience for Hyland...better luck in the next match...
Ditto!
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Report on UEFA.com
http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2012/matches/round=2000262/match=2007550/postmatch/report/?autoplay=true
Maccabi gain upper hand over Genk
Published: Wednesday 17 August 2011, 22.49CET
Maccabi Haifa FC 2-1 KRC Genk
Goals by Weaam Amasha and Vladimir Dvalishvili gave the Israeli champions a first-half advantage which was halved by Maccabi old boy Elyaniv Barda.
Maccabi Haifa FC will be hopeful of reaching the UEFA Champions League group stage for a third time after completing a narrow home win against KRC Genk.
First-half goals by Weaam Amasha and Vladimir Dvalishvili fairly reflected the nature of a game dominated by the hosts, but a 61st-minute strike against the run of play by former Maccabi striker Elyaniv Barda has given the Belgian champions heart of turning the play-off tie around in the return on 23 August.
Maccabi established an early stranglehold, taking the lead after eight minutes when Amasha skilfully brought down Eyal Meshumar's searching pass, held off José Nadson and drove in his fourth goal of the qualifying campaign.
Elisha Levi's charges continued to surge forward, almost doubling their advantage on 17 minutes when Dvalishvili's free-kick deflected against the crossbar. Though the visitors briefly sparked into life, when Barda screwed a shot wide moments later, Genk were soon two behind. A sweeping team move culminated in Eyal Golasa picking out Dvalishvili to score from close range.
Amasha and Idan Vered both squandered further chances before Genk threatened with a rare shot − Dániel Tőzsér's deflected free-kick brilliantly saved by Nir Davidovitch four minutes before half-time. The second period appeared to suggest a packed Ramat-Gan Stadium would be treated to more goals for the hosts, as Amasha fired wide after Vered played him into the area and Seidu Yahaya forced a fine save from László Koteles.
Yet, out of the blue, Genk scored, Barda popping up on the rebound after Kennedy Nwanganga had bust through and been denied bravely by Davidovitch. Boosted by their precious away goal, Jelle Vossen then had a chance to square the tie, cutting inside from the right but sending his low shot wide of the near post.
The visitors then came even closer when Khaleem Hyland's shot through a crowded penalty area was saved by Davidovitch, who then had to scramble Nwanganga's header off the line with a sprawling dive.
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So what if his role was defensive mid? Are you still going with your no furs, no fan, no goals, no good verdict?
I doh get dat either
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First Trini to play a CL match (including qualifiers) since Marvin Andrews, i believe...
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So what if his role was defensive mid? Are you still going with your no furs, no fan, no goals, no good verdict?
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What! Defensively or offensively he still had very little impact on the game. I didn't stutter. Defensively, he almost cost his team what would have been a third goal(would have been 2 in the whole).
By the way, I've been a big fan of Khaleem since his days at Jabloteh. I thought he, Atullah, and Peltier would have been like the 3 amigos on some big team somewhere in Europe but it didn't work out for some reason or the other.
I know he prides himself on playing from box to box, but his offensive game was lacking and slightly on the woeful side in yesterday's game. I expected a lot more from him in terms of a better offensive performance because I know he is capable of it.
Defensive mids are not just defenders of the ball. They play offense as well. Players like Xabi Alonso of RM, Michael Essien of Chelsea, and YaYa Toure of Man City are some of your more modern day defensive mids, just to name a few, with vision and an offensive game. They will score on you if you fall asleep on them and Khaleem is no different in the sense that he has a wicked shot and he will score on you if you fall asleep on him.
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What! Defensively or offensively he still had very little impact on the game. I didn't stutter. Defensively, he almost cost his team what would have been a third goal(would have been 2 in the whole).
By the way, I've been a big fan of Khaleem since his days at Jabloteh. I thought he, Atullah, and Peltier would have been like the 3 amigos on some big team somewhere in Europe but it didn't work out for some reason or the other.
I know he prides himself on playing from box to box, but his offensive game was lacking and slightly on the woeful side in yesterday's game. I expected a lot more from him in terms of a better offensive performance because I know he is capable of it.
Defensive mids are not just defenders of the ball. They play offense as well. Players like Xabi Alonso of RM, Michael Essien of Chelsea, and YaYa Toure of Man City are some of your more modern day defensive mids, just to name a few, with vision and an offensive game. They will score on you if you fall asleep on them and Khaleem is no different in the sense that he has a wicked shot and he will score on you if you fall asleep on him.
How much impact can an attacking/ creative mid have when no one seems to be able to pass the ball accurately to their teamates on Genk? I doh think u was watching the same game I see, because Genk players rell tootz dong de field giving away the ball almost automatically everytime the got it after about the 7 minute mark in the first half. Only person who probably had higher passing accuracy on Genk would be the LCB who was either passing it to the RCB or keeper almost all the time. The overall placement of the players for Genk was for the most part poor as they were spread much too far from the ball which helped to compound their passing issiues. I nuh sure wha you feel Hyland coulda do about that doh.
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What! Defensively or offensively he still had very little impact on the game. I didn't stutter. Defensively, he almost cost his team what would have been a third goal(would have been 2 in the whole).
By the way, I've been a big fan of Khaleem since his days at Jabloteh. I thought he, Atullah, and Peltier would have been like the 3 amigos on some big team somewhere in Europe but it didn't work out for some reason or the other.
I know he prides himself on playing from box to box, but his offensive game was lacking and slightly on the woeful side in yesterday's game. I expected a lot more from him in terms of a better offensive performance because I know he is capable of it.
Defensive mids are not just defenders of the ball. They play offense as well. Players like Xabi Alonso of RM, Michael Essien of Chelsea, and YaYa Toure of Man City are some of your more modern day defensive mids, just to name a few, with vision and an offensive game. They will score on you if you fall asleep on them and Khaleem is no different in the sense that he has a wicked shot and he will score on you if you fall asleep on him.
Deese honestly I can't comment cuz I didn't see the game.
but I reading other reports and I reading your comment and drawing the conclusion from your comments that Hyland didn't have a good game because he was not a spark offensively. Making out the bad tackle he made doesn't change the tone of your post, which seems to suggest because he didn't go forward enough or he didn't take on he had a bad game.
It doesn't help that most outlets I've read state he had a tidy game where he spread the ball and covered good ground in the middle third (mostly defensively). Now interpreting this, I'm guessing Hyland played a deeper defensive role and his role was to link the play, not be a catalyst for offense.
Mind you while doing this, he had two shot attempts, one good enough to be mentioned in the UEFA match report.
So which one is it? He played badly as a midfielder in general or he played his role but you didn't like his impact on the game?
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ahhhh...a trini back in the champions league. is too long now.
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What! Defensively or offensively he still had very little impact on the game. I didn't stutter. Defensively, he almost cost his team what would have been a third goal(would have been 2 in the whole).
By the way, I've been a big fan of Khaleem since his days at Jabloteh. I thought he, Atullah, and Peltier would have been like the 3 amigos on some big team somewhere in Europe but it didn't work out for some reason or the other.
I know he prides himself on playing from box to box, but his offensive game was lacking and slightly on the woeful side in yesterday's game. I expected a lot more from him in terms of a better offensive performance because I know he is capable of it.
Defensive mids are not just defenders of the ball. They play offense as well. Players like Xabi Alonso of RM, Michael Essien of Chelsea, and YaYa Toure of Man City are some of your more modern day defensive mids, just to name a few, with vision and an offensive game. They will score on you if you fall asleep on them and Khaleem is no different in the sense that he has a wicked shot and he will score on you if you fall asleep on him.
Deese honestly I can't comment cuz I didn't see the game.
but I reading other reports and I reading your comment and drawing the conclusion from your comments that Hyland didn't have a good game because he was not a spark offensively. Making out the bad tackle he made doesn't change the tone of your post, which seems to suggest because he didn't go forward enough or he didn't take on he had a bad game.
It doesn't help that most outlets I've read state he had a tidy game where he spread the ball and covered good ground in the middle third (mostly defensively). Now interpreting this, I'm guessing Hyland played a deeper defensive role and his role was to link the play, not be a catalyst for offense.
Mind you while doing this, he had two shot attempts, one good enough to be mentioned in the UEFA match report.
So which one is it? He played badly as a midfielder in general or he played his role but you didn't like his impact on the game?
As I stated before, Khaleem prides himself on being a box to box midfielder and the coach had to have known this about this player going into the game.
First, Khaleem played as a box to box midfielder providing defensive support to break up attacking plays from the other team, at times. This was a problem because more often than not he would committ an infringement and the other team would reset a play in Genk's half. You could blame that on the referee if you want but I saw that as poor tackling on Khaleem's part. He was a little too enthusiastic and unbridled with his challenges. His indeciviseness was almost costly as well.
Second, he seemed at times, and this happened too often, to not want to take possession of the ball from the defense, neither did he distribute passes from deep in the midfield to control the game. Like an Essien or Ture would. His passing game, just like the rest of the team, was woeful. You could say all Genk's passes lacked timing and accuracy. Khaleem's passes were not dangerous passes. The team's performance on the pitch brought out the worse in their supporters at times.
Third, when he was supporting the attack, he lost possession of the ball a little too often, bringing the attack to a halt. It was impossible for him to make that defense splitting pass and that could be the reason why he did not anticipate passing opportunities for his team mates. He did not provide the support that Genk sorely needed in tidying up the central midfield as this was the plan of the other team to muddy that area of the pitch and it worked to perfection. Genk was overran in central midfield.
Lastly, yeah he had two shots on goal but they did not have any power on them. Khaleem has a wicked shot and can sting you with both feet.
In conclusion, I was looking for a more allround/complete game from Khaleem. The kind of game that Genk is looking for from him, a better passing game with better possession of the ball and better timing on his challenges in his attempts to win the ball back, a liitle more awareness of his and his team mates positions. The stamina to run all game long is there and so is his shooting ability, he just has to take full advantage of the opportunity when it presents itself which is what he didn't do against Haifa.
Genk is going to need it if they are to get out of this round and advance against the other teams in the competition.
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please add that its his debut for the champion club of begium...and a CL debut as well
well played son...keep going
play de fitball
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first game for a new club.................
I remember Yorke's first game for Manutd.............most commentators wrote him off and said he was not up to pace with the Manutd style of play........the rest is history.
What about defensive mids like Lasana Diarra, Nigel de Jong Gareth Barry, Palacios, Mikel, Yaya Toure (at Barca) etc? Different players have different roles to play. Not everyone has to have their name in "lights".
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please add that its his debut for the champion club of begium...and a CL debut as well
well played son...keep going
play de fitball
Kinda think ... you said it all in a nutshell!!!
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Hyland on the bench fr this one.
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hyland coming off the bench to score the game and aggregate winner.
a trini go be back in the CL group stage soon.
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Genk up 1 - 0. 35th mn. 2 - 2 on aggregate. Genk have been dominating this one.
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Its 1 - 1. 2 - 3 in aggregate in favour of Maccaiba Haifa. Precious away goal for Haifa. Steups.
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Lol. Genk back in front, 2 - 1 in the game (3 -3 on aggregate).
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Game over, Hyland never came off the bench, however Genk are through to the group stages of the Champions League. Game went to penalties.
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Hopefully the new coach will pick him when the group stages start.
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WOW great result!!
How Genk play? In the first leg they played badly.
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WOW great result!!
How Genk play? In the first leg they played badly.
They played alot better.....remember home advantage counts at this level
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Darryl Roberts' old Turkish club is in the CL group stage now, too. Too bad Darryl didnt stick around.
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hyland coming off the bench to score the game and aggregate winner.
a trini go be back in the CL group stage soon.
dais what i was hoping too, but like dis damn interim coach eh like him...how he could go from being ah starter to riding pine next game?
anyway ah had to leave in extra time but like dey win on PKs so we'll see him in de group stages:)
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Darryl Roberts' old Turkish club is in the CL group stage now, too. Too bad Darryl didnt stick around.
His old club is Denizlispor, who are in Bank Asya 1. Lig (aka Turkish 2nd Division). The Turkish team in the CL is Trabzonspor.
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Darryl Roberts' old Turkish club is in the CL group stage now, too. Too bad Darryl didnt stick around.
His old club is Denizlispor, who are in Bank Asya 1. Lig (aka Turkish 2nd Division). The Turkish team in the CL is Trabzonspor.
dais who Clarence or somebody was with, right?
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Darryl Roberts' old Turkish club is in the CL group stage now, too. Too bad Darryl didnt stick around.
His old club is Denizlispor, who are in Bank Asya 1. Lig (aka Turkish 2nd Division). The Turkish team in the CL is Trabzonspor.
dais who Clarence or somebody was with, right?
Nah. Clarence was wit Hacettepe Spor Kulübü.
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Darryl Roberts' old Turkish club is in the CL group stage now, too. Too bad Darryl didnt stick around.
His old club is Denizlispor, who are in Bank Asya 1. Lig (aka Turkish 2nd Division). The Turkish team in the CL is Trabzonspor.
dais who Clarence or somebody was with, right?
Nah. Clarence was wit Hacettepe Spor Kulübü.
Encyclopaedia Myers!!!
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hyland coming off the bench to score the game and aggregate winner.
a trini go be back in the CL group stage soon.
dais what i was hoping too, but like dis damn interim coach eh like him...how he could go from being ah starter to riding pine next game?
anyway ah had to leave in extra time but like dey win on PKs so we'll see him in de group stages:)
Read my previous thread and you will get a pretty good idea of why he is riding the pine, in addition to that, the midfielder playing in front of him is not losing the ball in possession, and is making plays. That should answer your question.