Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 01:12:21 PM
WarnerSamuelHoyteHoyteEdwardsThis is what we needed a long time now, a solid backline for the wcq, once the warriors have a solid back line, we can rest easier because we have the tools in the mid and upfront to put the ball in the net
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 25, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
Post by: Big Magician on August 25, 2011, 01:14:50 PM
some law firm ??..
you talk to dem ???
careful dey Fu#k you like Zamora
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 01:17:22 PM
who de fu#k is Hoyte and Hoyte man ???
some law firm ??..
you talk to dem ???
careful dey Fu#k you like Zamora
:rotfl:
if they reject the national team, then we play with james and primus, simple as that breds, but it will be beneficial to the team if they opt to play for us
Post by: dinho on August 25, 2011, 01:19:49 PM
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 01:21:35 PM
you does think up this mess all by yourself ???
firebrand mentioned that the brothers may play next round for TT
i guess fire was thinking of this mess before me then?
Post by: Big Magician on August 25, 2011, 01:23:13 PM
go and fantasize some else...maybe in jamaica
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 01:24:50 PM
watch nah man...right now is Power and James...
go and fantasize some else...maybe in jamaica
your acting as if the hoyte brothers are not trini in origin
relax BM, if they decide to play for us, i rather have them in the back than power sah, any intelligent manager would agree
Post by: just cool on August 25, 2011, 01:26:24 PM
bro we don't need all dem english boys on we team, i rather go with our local talent win lose or draw.
i up for JLLoyd bc he's ah born trinidadian, and maybe justin hoyte bc we need ah solid right back, but other than that we good in the talent department.
and as ah tell yuh already, carlos edwards is not a defender, and the peter borough game last weekend proved that!
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 01:31:00 PM
Edwards is an englishman? i guess i miss something.
bro we don't need all dem english boys on we team, i rather go with our local talent win lose or draw.
i up for JLLoyd bc he's ah born trinidadian, and maybe justin hoyte bc we need ah solid right back, but other than that we good in the talent department.
and as ah tell yuh already, carlos edwards is not a defender, and the peter borough game last weekend proved that!
since when does english based mean englishman? ???
i rather win with the best back line, TT in the last how long, has struggled to put together a solid back line, if we have that chance, pfister will jump for it right away, no matter what you guys say
pfister ain't dumb, hes a german coach who traditionally are defensive minded, if he has the two Hoyte brothers at his disposal, you better believe he will play them and sit powers and the rest.
who will you play in the right back? edwards is an alright/ok crosser, he can stay in the back line where he is playing for his team on the regular
thomson crosses the ball better and is young and full of energy, edwards is just fine where he is, don't tell me one bad game against his team, is enough to convince you he shouldn't play wing back
your the same man that said you are under stress for when we play bermuda because of our defense, now you are saying you are fine with losing with a lesser defense to keep it local?
don't be silly brother
Post by: just cool on August 25, 2011, 01:42:16 PM
when all is well and every one is healthy and up for the challenge, i would go with.
phillips
cyrus/ power james primus / marshall JLLoyd/ cupid
don't forget that kern cupid stepped up his game and is doing much better, just look @ him in the game vs USA and mexico in the hex.
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 01:51:47 PM
TI i'm sure seon power could do a better job than carlos in that right full back position. i believe Pfister will have tuh call up yohance marshall, and doh tell meh bout he not play regulars for his team, the locals eh playing @ all bc the league out.
when all is well and every one is healthy and up for the challenge, i would go with.
cyrus/ power james primus / marshall JLLoyd/ cupid
don't forget that kern cupid stepped up his game and is doing much better, just look @ him in the game vs USA and mexico in the hex.
samuel is not a right back, he is a left back, cupid ain't better than edwards in the right back role, what level of competition is cupid playing against compared to edwards in england?
power is improving but made some serious mistakes in the india match that against a better team would have costed us a goal
right now james and power in the middle is temporary, because when primus returns, power will sit and f the hoyte brothers come on board, say bye bye to power and co
Post by: Small Magician aka Wazza on August 25, 2011, 01:55:27 PM
The Hoyte brothers are wingbacks.. not CB's
Also they most likely will not agree to join up with us... so realise that the defenders we have for the upcoming campaign are :
Edwards,Wolfe, James, Primus, Cyrus, Marshall, Power, Samuel, J.Jones and Adams
Post by: Socapro on August 25, 2011, 02:04:00 PM
TI, you really mad yes
The Hoyte brothers are wingbacks.. not CB's
Also they most likely will not agree to join up with us... so realise that the defenders we have for the upcoming campaign are :
Edwards,Wolfe, James, Primus, Cyrus, Marshall, Power, Samuel, J.Jones and Adams
We just managed to get rid of Zamora now he's trying to bring us the English law firm Hoye & Hoyte!
No wonder we football in a mess! ::)
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 02:04:25 PM
TI, you really mad yes
The Hoyte brothers are wingbacks.. not CB's
Also they most likely will not agree to join up with us... so realise that the defenders we have for the upcoming campaign are :
Edwards,Wolfe, James, Primus, Cyrus, Marshall, Power, Samuel, J.Jones and Adams
gavin also plays center back, know what you are talking about before you talk garbage, converting justin to a center back for the national team is not far fetched as edwards already plays right back, if not pfister can switch both players, or even have edwards remain as right back and samuel play central defender, with justin playing on the left, you do know that justin played left back right?
when did pfister appoint you scout to say that they won't commit? im just speculating based on certain posters information, who i trust
if they commit, that will most likely be the back line, the only crazy person here is the posters that believe the local based defenders will continue to play if the hoyte brothers commit to the team
Post by: just cool on August 25, 2011, 02:14:17 PM
Ti like yuh blind or what, where on earth did i put samuels in the right back position? like yuh forgot i watchin this fella since he was @ villa, i doh make dem kinda mistakes.TI i'm sure seon power could do a better job than carlos in that right full back position. i believe Pfister will have tuh call up yohance marshall, and doh tell meh bout he not play regulars for his team, the locals eh playing @ all bc the league out.
when all is well and every one is healthy and up for the challenge, i would go with.
phillips
cyrus/ power james primus / marshall JLLoyd/ cupid
don't forget that kern cupid stepped up his game and is doing much better, just look @ him in the game vs USA and mexico in the hex.
samuel is not a right back, he is a left back, cupid ain't better than edwards in the right back role, what level of competition is cupid playing against compared to edwards in england?
power is improving but made some serious mistakes in the india match that against a better team would have costed us a goal
right now james and power in the middle is temporary, because when primus returns, power will sit and f the hoyte brothers come on board, say bye bye to power and co
lemme put in the goal keeper so i could give yuh some kinda direction yes. :devil:
Post by: just cool on August 25, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
on ah side note, if the federation was using good coaches instead of cheap labor we would've been miles ahead in terms of player development, bc players like cupid, tinto, hector, marvin phillips, guerra and many more would've all gotten outside contracts with the exposure from the gold cup and better friendlies.
i believe we have the home grown talent, all we need is ah solid teacher, and i believe we got one in otto.
Post by: Andre on August 25, 2011, 02:31:33 PM
It will be interesting to see an all English based backline for the national team.
This is what we needed a long time now, a solid backline for the wcq, once the warriors have a solid back line, we can rest easier because we have the tools in the mid and upfront to put the ball in the net
warner? he gone new zealand now. with the Wellington Phoenix.
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 02:34:53 PM
Seriously TI, we don't need all dem enlish players, all we need is ah good coach and we best defenders, and i believe that with three yrs left before brazil the coach could more than organize that defense to compete in concacaf.
on ah side note, if the federation was using good coaches instead of cheap labor we would've been miles ahead in terms of player development, bc players like cupid, tinto, hector, marvin phillips, guerra and many more would've all gotten outside contracts with the exposure from the gold cup and better friendlies.
i believe we have the home grown talent, all we need is ah solid teacher, and i believe we got one in otto.
i agree with you mostly on everything you just said
i have always maintained it was coaching that has killed us over the years, also a need for a good youth development program as well.
but having the hoyte brothers in the back is what our team needs, TT has lost games because of our weak defense
if fire is right and we get at least justin hoyte, that is great, because we can put hoyte on the left and play samuel in the center with either james or primus and edwards would remain on the right
that to me is a strong back line that could take us to brazil, if gavin joins in, even better, 2 brothers in the back, they know each other and the chemistry will be better
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 02:35:34 PM
It will be interesting to see an all English based backline for the national team.
This is what we needed a long time now, a solid backline for the wcq, once the warriors have a solid back line, we can rest easier because we have the tools in the mid and upfront to put the ball in the net
warner? he gone new zealand now. with the Wellington Phoenix.
what do you think pfister will do? ???
use your logic
play the more experienced keeper or less experienced keeper?
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 02:39:38 PM
Seriously TI, we don't need all dem enlish players, all we need is ah good coach and we best defenders, and i believe that with three yrs left before brazil the coach could more than organize that defense to compete in concacaf.
on ah side note, if the federation was using good coaches instead of cheap labor we would've been miles ahead in terms of player development, bc players like cupid, tinto, hector, marvin phillips, guerra and many more would've all gotten outside contracts with the exposure from the gold cup and better friendlies.
i believe we have the home grown talent, all we need is ah solid teacher, and i believe we got one in otto.
think about it, we will be a force in CONCACAF with a back line like this:
WarnerJ.HoyteG.HoyteSamuelEdwardsif we only get justin hoyte, then we can go with a back line like this:
WarnerHoyteJames/PrimusSamuelEdwardsPost by: just cool on August 25, 2011, 02:58:55 PM
TI, yuh must be on something!! yuh gone from an all english defense to an all english back line? what yuh take we for, jamaica?Seriously TI, we don't need all dem enlish players, all we need is ah good coach and we best defenders, and i believe that with three yrs left before brazil the coach could more than organize that defense to compete in concacaf.
on ah side note, if the federation was using good coaches instead of cheap labor we would've been miles ahead in terms of player development, bc players like cupid, tinto, hector, marvin phillips, guerra and many more would've all gotten outside contracts with the exposure from the gold cup and better friendlies.
i believe we have the home grown talent, all we need is ah solid teacher, and i believe we got one in otto.
think about it, we will be a force in CONCACAF with a back line like this:
if we only get justin hoyte, then we can go with a back line like this:
when last you saw tony warner, that man is an accident waiting to happen, like yuh forgot what happened @ fullam, and hull city or what?
marvin phillips may not be in ah big foreign league, but the boy real fackin good, him and houton hector is sort of in the same boat, he never really got ah break to go on trial, but the fella is top self!
i only want two english defenders, JLLoyd, and justin hoyte, that's it! we have home grown talent and i want us to use them. cyrus, primus, jovin jones, cupid, julius james, yahance marshall, and maybeeeee power, let our boys get some exposure and gain some trials.
doh get meh wrong, ah definitely want JLLoyd on the team and if justin come on board i will welcome him with open arms, but not ah whole english back line, i not feelin that bro!
if we can't beat guyana , bermuda and barbados with what we have, then we don't need tuh be in brazil. let hoyte and JLLoyd come on board in the semis (if we get there) against bigger teams like Ticos, el tri and the salvadorians.
let we youngsters get some exposure nah. wey wrong wid yuh.
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 03:02:50 PM
TI, yuh must be on something!! yuh gone from an all english defense to an all english back line? what yuh take we for, jamaica?Seriously TI, we don't need all dem enlish players, all we need is ah good coach and we best defenders, and i believe that with three yrs left before brazil the coach could more than organize that defense to compete in concacaf.
on ah side note, if the federation was using good coaches instead of cheap labor we would've been miles ahead in terms of player development, bc players like cupid, tinto, hector, marvin phillips, guerra and many more would've all gotten outside contracts with the exposure from the gold cup and better friendlies.
i believe we have the home grown talent, all we need is ah solid teacher, and i believe we got one in otto.
think about it, we will be a force in CONCACAF with a back line like this:
if we only get justin hoyte, then we can go with a back line like this:
when last you saw tony warner, that man is an accident waiting to happen, like yuh forgot what happened @ fullam, and hull city or what?
marvin phillips may not be in ah big foreign league, but the boy real fackin good, he's and houton hector is sort of in the same boat, he never really got ah break to go on trial, but the fella is top self!
i only want two english defenders, JLLoyd, and justin hoyte, that's it! we have home grown talent and i want us to use them. cyrus, primus, jovin jones, cupid, julius james, yahance marshall, and maybeeeee power, let our boys get some exposure and gain some trials.
doh get meh wrong, and definitely want JLLoyd on the team and if justin come on board i will welcome him with open arms, but not ah whole english back line, i not feelin that bro!
if we can't beat guyana , bermuda and barbados with what we have , then we don't need tuh be in brazil, let hoye and JLLod come on board in the semis (if we get there) against bigger teams like Ticos. el tri, and the salvadorians.
let we youngsters get some exposure nah.
pfister may mix it up, the 2 brothers is an investment, especially gavin who is younger
i agree with letting the local boys get a sweat but if they are not up to par by next round, adios bro 8)
men have to get over this JA obsession, we always mix up our football talent from local to foreign, having an all english based back line would add stability to our football.
you will realize this later on when we advance
Post by: FireBrand on August 25, 2011, 03:42:55 PM
you does think up this mess all by yourself ???
firebrand mentioned that the brothers may play next round for TT
i guess fire was thinking of this mess before me then?
Easy Contro...I never said both brothers may play... I said Justin Hoyte MAY play next round.
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 04:06:38 PM
you does think up this mess all by yourself ???
firebrand mentioned that the brothers may play next round for TT
i guess fire was thinking of this mess before me then?
Easy Contro...I never said both brothers may play... I said Justin Hoyte MAY play next round.
my bad
i mistook it for both of them :beermug:
Post by: Tenorsaw on August 25, 2011, 04:11:55 PM
who de fu#k is Hoyte and Hoyte man ???
some law firm ??..
you talk to dem ???
careful dey Fu#k you like Zamora
:rotfl:
if they reject the national team, then we play with james and primus, simple as that breds, but it will be beneficial to the team if they opt to play for us
Horse, they tired blank we. What make yuh think it will be any different?
Post by: Socapro on August 25, 2011, 04:15:32 PM
who de fu#k is Hoyte and Hoyte man ???
some law firm ??..
you talk to dem ???
careful dey Fu#k you like Zamora
:rotfl:
if they reject the national team, then we play with james and primus, simple as that breds, but it will be beneficial to the team if they opt to play for us
Horse, they tired blank we. What make yuh think it will be any different?
I could swear Controv does smoke some hard :mackdaddy: before posting on here sometimes!
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 05:34:22 PM
who de fu#k is Hoyte and Hoyte man ???
some law firm ??..
you talk to dem ???
careful dey Fu#k you like Zamora
:rotfl:
if they reject the national team, then we play with james and primus, simple as that breds, but it will be beneficial to the team if they opt to play for us
Horse, they tired blank we. What make yuh think it will be any different?
I could swear Controv does smoke some hard :mackdaddy: before posting on here sometimes!
its called optimism, knowing fully well we have been weak in our back line for many years now
this is a discussion board, not wikipedia
Post by: Savannah boy on August 25, 2011, 05:49:44 PM
Post by: Peong on August 25, 2011, 06:33:30 PM
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 06:47:46 PM
Hoyte not better than Julius.
which hoyte?
you could prove that?
Post by: dinho on August 25, 2011, 06:49:11 PM
Just curious.
Post by: Peong on August 25, 2011, 06:55:05 PM
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 06:56:26 PM
Question: Any of allyuh actually see any ah dem Hoyte play in the last like 2 years?
Just curious.
saw justin play several times in 2010-11 for middlesbrough, last time i saw gavin was when he played for brighton in 2009-10, recently i have not seen him, i believe he has since transferred to another club, correct me if i am wrong
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 07:15:57 PM
You could prove Hoyte better to have him ahead of Julius in yuh lineup?
which hoyte first of all
and secondly, i have seen both brothers play, justin is class and is playing at a higher level than james, against better opposition and under a better training regime, i will say based on seeing both james and justin play, justin is better player imo.
it will be proven when both of them suit up for the national team and everyone can judge, including the coach, who is better and who saves us matches
Post by: Big Magician on August 25, 2011, 07:23:08 PM
man...yuh getting tiring...serious..take a 2 days off..or a post off
not to mention i never forget...and i mean NEVER ....de set ah shit yuh talk in 05 and 06...serious
watch meh...and i real busy rite now...
Post by: Controversial on August 25, 2011, 08:37:35 PM
TI... send me the fu#king email he send you saying dat they want to play with we
man...yuh getting tiring...serious..take a 2 days off..or a post off
not to mention i never forget...and i mean NEVER ....de set ah shit yuh talk in 05 and 06...serious
watch meh...and i real busy rite now...
who the hell are you to tell me to stop posting? ??? :D
if you don't like the thread and your busy, RIDE OUT.... bc im busy having an intelligent conversation
and furthermore, you talk about 05 and 06, i remember distinctly saying we going germany when numerous others doubted it, so don't call my name... unless you ready to call out all the supposed genuine supporters/hypocrites
Post by: Socapro on August 25, 2011, 10:31:13 PM
TI... send me the fu#king email he send you saying dat they want to play with we
man...yuh getting tiring...serious..take a 2 days off..or a post off
not to mention i never forget...and i mean NEVER ....de set ah shit yuh talk in 05 and 06...serious
watch meh...and i real busy rite now...
who the hell are you to tell me to stop posting? ??? :D
if you don't like the thread and your busy, RIDE OUT.... bc im busy having an intelligent conversation
and furthermore, you talk about 05 and 06, i remember distinctly saying we going germany when numerous others doubted it, so don't call my name... unless you ready to call out all the supposed genuine supporters/hypocrites
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day!
Every WC campaign you does say we going for sure because we have the best team in the region!
Problem is, yuh have some delusion that certain foreign players would be interested in playing for us while that clueless lot are in charge at the TTFF!
Post by: davidephraim on August 26, 2011, 02:07:56 AM
Edwards is an englishman? i guess i miss something.
bro we don't need all dem english boys on we team, i rather go with our local talent win lose or draw.
i up for JLLoyd bc he's ah born trinidadian, and maybe justin hoyte bc we need ah solid right back, but other than that we good in the talent department.
and as ah tell yuh already, carlos edwards is not a defender, and the peter borough game last weekend proved that!
Didn't Latapy try this..... :devil:
Post by: just cool on August 26, 2011, 03:22:35 AM
Don't put words in meh mouth bredder, what i meant by locals is trini born and bred talent, and not necessarily local based. the foreign based players are our local boys as well and is mainly they of whom i speak. marshall, cyrus, primus.Edwards is an englishman? i guess i miss something.
bro we don't need all dem english boys on we team, i rather go with our local talent win lose or draw.
i up for JLLoyd bc he's ah born trinidadian, and maybe justin hoyte bc we need ah solid right back, but other than that we good in the talent department.
and as ah tell yuh already, carlos edwards is not a defender, and the peter borough game last weekend proved that!
Didn't Latapy try this..... :devil:
as for latapy, he fell on he own fackin sword! he failed bc he was on ah power trip, he played his own hand and loss, and some ppl had the nerve tuh blame the federation. stueps!
is ah good thing i know ppl who know ppl on the inside who said that jack did not stop latapy from picking whom he will, or else i would be talkin dat nonsense too.
just look @ Pfister, he played his first game in charge on sunday and look how much input and info he divulge about the team and players, if that was latapy it woulda been ah whole lot of hooplah about nothing, wid the top secrecy BS.
hope marshall get ah call up to replace the injured primus.
Post by: andre samuel on August 26, 2011, 05:20:07 AM
Justin Hoyte has not commited to us, so lets stop talking about it untill he does. He is a right back, full stop!!
Carlos Edwards is not a right back, he has never been one, he tries to play that role, but he isnt a defensive player naturally, he is just trying his best to play in a role that the coach asks him to. He a naturally gifted attacking player that can penetrate the right flank!
We have good options at the centre back position...........Primus, Cyrus, James, Marshall are all very competent players.
With respect to the goalkeeper, i am very taken aback with the callup of Warner. I remember Cornell Glen saying that Marvin Phillip and Micheal Jan Williams need to step up at some point because they are the future of Trinidad and Tobago goalkeeping and we have invested alot in them.
If Warner comes back and is the best in training, then so be it, but it will be a negative step for our goalkeeping situation.
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Post by: banton on August 27, 2011, 12:09:58 AM
I'll be very surprised if Jloyd plays as ah centre back! He was asked before in the previous round and he said no since he is not comfortable in that position.
Justin Hoyte has not commited to us, so lets stop talking about it untill he does. He is a right back, full stop!!
Carlos Edwards is not a right back, he has never been one, he tries to play that role, but he isnt a defensive player naturally, he is just trying his best to play in a role that the coach asks him to. He a naturally gifted attacking player that can penetrate the right flank!
We have good options at the centre back position...........Primus, Cyrus, James, Marshall are all very competent players.
With respect to the goalkeeper, i am very taken aback with the callup of Warner. I remember Cornell Glen saying that Marvin Phillip and Micheal Jan Williams need to step up at some point because they are the future of Trinidad and Tobago goalkeeping and we have invested alot in them.
If Warner comes back and is the best in training, then so be it, but it will be a negative step for our goalkeeping situation.
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Post by: benedicts bwoy on August 27, 2011, 12:09:11 PM
Agreed :applause:I'll be very surprised if Jloyd plays as ah centre back! He was asked before in the previous round and he said no since he is not comfortable in that position.
Justin Hoyte has not commited to us, so lets stop talking about it untill he does. He is a right back, full stop!!
Carlos Edwards is not a right back, he has never been one, he tries to play that role, but he isnt a defensive player naturally, he is just trying his best to play in a role that the coach asks him to. He a naturally gifted attacking player that can penetrate the right flank!
We have good options at the centre back position...........Primus, Cyrus, James, Marshall are all very competent players.
With respect to the goalkeeper, i am very taken aback with the callup of Warner. I remember Cornell Glen saying that Marvin Phillip and Micheal Jan Williams need to step up at some point because they are the future of Trinidad and Tobago goalkeeping and we have invested alot in them.
If Warner comes back and is the best in training, then so be it, but it will be a negative step for our goalkeeping situation.
ah love it!!
best read on this post