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Title: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Flex on November 14, 2011, 04:53:33 AM
Corneal knocks commitment of players.
By Ian Prescott (Express).


Skill not enough

Out of Anton Corneal's fiery belly probably came some truths—that having skilful footballers does not always make a winning team.

"If you are not prepared to die and live it on the field, then you don't play for a national team," Trinidad and Tobago assistant national football coach Anton Corneal declared following a 2-1 loss away to Guyana on Friday night which knocked the Soca Warriors out of the World Cup.

"This is not club football, this is national football and this is what we expect from certain players. We didn't get that dying fight out of players and at the end of the day this is the result."

T&T are sometimes knocked out of World Cup qualifying by Mexico, the United States and other top CONCACAF teams, but never by Caribbean opposition. Corneal felt that commitment was lacking by his players against Guyana.

"Players said all the right things before this game. Saying it is nothing if they are not prepared to live it. We wanted to win this game just as badly, but you have to show that on the field, Corneal said. "This must never happen again."

"I think coach (Otto Pfister) is very disappointed. I am very disappointed, and the team is very disappointed. I don't think anyone else can come and do an interview at this time, but there are a couple of young players in that dressing room and they must learn the life lessons that came out here. "

Likewise, Guyana's Trinidadian coach Shabazz also felt that greater commitment by the Guyanese players made a difference on Friday night.

"I think it was hard out there. The Trinidad and Tobago players are obviously more talented. But the heart out there (was the difference). The yoeman service from the Cort brothers...Gregory Richardson playing with a damaged ankle. These brothers (Guyana) defied scientific logic with the way they played. Obviously, Trinidad and Tobago are a more quality team, but there are many times you have seen a big army defeated by a small army," Shabazz said.

Having played alongside T&T players both in T&T and Guyana, other members of the Guyanese contingent spoke of the T&T players they knew would not tackle or work hard. These they said put pressure on the entire team. More was also expected of the Warriors' foreign-based players.

Going forward, Corneal said there needs to be a proper planning assessment of what are T&T's immediate and long-term football goals.

"It going to take planning. It's going to take good planning from the Federation. The group that is coming through is a large group of talented players. But that is the same word again 'talented' players. Talent is just not enough. It is not enough if we don't have the proper desire to get on the other side of a result. We had more possession.

So What? We have nothing to show for it. We don't have anything to show for it. We have to get at the end of cross-balls. We have to pick up second balls... we have to get in front of defenders...it was not done. So, we must make no excuses."

Likewise, Shabazz felt that an early World Cup exit did not mean the end of T&T football. He said T&T had a good bunch of footballers, and had to go back to the drawing board and build a new team by combining the current Under-23s with those senior players that can be used in the long run. He said the immediate goal would be building for the Caribbean Cup and CONCACAF Gold Cup.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: just cool on November 14, 2011, 05:47:54 AM
Let shabbaz haul he stinkin mdcnt!! he's got some nerve to talk bout rebuilding T&T football!
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Socapro on November 14, 2011, 10:01:07 AM
Let shabbaz haul he stinkin mdcnt!! he's got some nerve to talk bout rebuilding T&T football!

Why?!  ???

That's the thing about you JC, one day you would be on point and the next day you would be totally emotional & illogical!
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: madness on November 14, 2011, 10:19:46 AM
it's true tnt needs to rebuild there team again. and nothing wrong with Jamaals suggestion about tnt team. we have talent but no passion.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: mukumsplau on November 14, 2011, 10:24:28 AM
from d minute i see pic with man disembarkin bus wit Beats by Dre headphones and swanky manpurse/satchel and dey ipads n shit somethin in my head went "oh-ohhhh"...

credit to guyana they were hungry at they came out and ate food..
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: elan on November 14, 2011, 10:41:19 AM
from d minute i see pic with man disembarkin bus wit Beats by Dre headphones and swanky manpurse/satchel and dey ipads n shit somethin in my head went "oh-ohhhh"...

credit to guyana they were hungry at they came out and ate food..

Who responsible for that?

Look Klinsman tell the US players they could only wear numbers 1 through 11. Remember for the Bermuda game in Bermuda players was shopping and sightseeing the day of the game.

Who set the pace of play leading up to the big game?
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Socapro on November 14, 2011, 10:57:33 AM
from d minute i see pic with man disembarkin bus wit Beats by Dre headphones and swanky manpurse/satchel and dey ipads n shit somethin in my head went "oh-ohhhh"...

credit to guyana they were hungry at they came out and ate food..

Who responsible for that?

Look Klinsman tell the US players they could only wear numbers 1 through 11. Remember for the Bermuda game in Bermuda players was shopping and sightseeing the day of the game.

Who set the pace of play leading up to the big game?

The team manager and coaching staff have to take responsibility for that!
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: frico on November 14, 2011, 11:05:19 AM
from d minute i see pic with man disembarkin bus wit Beats by Dre headphones and swanky manpurse/satchel and dey ipads n shit somethin in my head went "oh-ohhhh"...

credit to guyana they were hungry at they came out and ate food..
I said the same facking thing to my friend,they look like real big stars going on a bloody picnic.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: palos on November 14, 2011, 11:27:13 AM
from d minute i see pic with man disembarkin bus wit Beats by Dre headphones and swanky manpurse/satchel and dey ipads n shit somethin in my head went "oh-ohhhh"...

credit to guyana they were hungry at they came out and ate food..

So if dey was wearing a blazer and tie, marchin in line and lookin like fresh schooloboys yuh woulda feel better?

Or maybe if dey sportin a fade out TTFF juzzey, track pants and pipah slippers dat woulda be more to your likin?

Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: elan on November 14, 2011, 12:40:14 PM
from d minute i see pic with man disembarkin bus wit Beats by Dre headphones and swanky manpurse/satchel and dey ipads n shit somethin in my head went "oh-ohhhh"...

credit to guyana they were hungry at they came out and ate food..

So if dey was wearing a blazer and tie, marchin in line and lookin like fresh schooloboys yuh woulda feel better?

Or maybe if dey sportin a fade out TTFF juzzey, track pants and pipah slippers dat woulda be more to your likin?



there is much to be said for uniform and dress codes Palos.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: fitzinho on November 14, 2011, 01:18:03 PM
from d minute i see pic with man disembarkin bus wit Beats by Dre headphones and swanky manpurse/satchel and dey ipads n shit somethin in my head went "oh-ohhhh"...

credit to guyana they were hungry at they came out and ate food..
What does headphones and ipads have to do with losing a football game??
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: tempo on November 14, 2011, 01:25:34 PM
Corneal is full of crap. Friday's debacle was the legacy of the 2006 player blacklist and subsequent pay disputes where the TTFF essentially showed itself to be nothing but a group of scofflaws. If the players showed no heart and comittment, who can blame them? Unfortunately, the shirt they put on doesn't represent T&T, it represents the private interests of Jack Warner and an organization that has treated players and coaches with nothing but contempt. If Anton raises those issues, then perhaps be would get a bit more respect.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 14, 2011, 01:27:10 PM
Some ah allyuh just need to stop f**kin postin oui!!  So now ah man entertainment devices he using in he f**kin free time is ah problem.  Yuh go swear it ha footage wid man on de bench fiddlin rong wid f**kin ipad an ignorin de coach when he tellin dem warm up nah.  All who f**kin studyin dat is some prime f**kin grade A c0ntholez!!
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: weary1969 on November 14, 2011, 01:30:37 PM
from d minute i see pic with man disembarkin bus wit Beats by Dre headphones and swanky manpurse/satchel and dey ipads n shit somethin in my head went "oh-ohhhh"...

credit to guyana they were hungry at they came out and ate food..
What does headphones and ipads have to do with losing a football game??

We losing games because ah ipods long time according 2 d cornmeals long time.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Fyzoman on November 14, 2011, 01:57:50 PM
from d minute i see pic with man disembarkin bus wit Beats by Dre headphones and swanky manpurse/satchel and dey ipads n shit somethin in my head went "oh-ohhhh"...

credit to guyana they were hungry at they came out and ate food..
What does headphones and ipads have to do with losing a football game??

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Fitzinho i wondered the same thing myself, but I understand people just trying to makes sense of this whole mess!!

Fellahs coulda be dressed in tuxedo, sans murse, headphones and all ah dat and it wouldna make ah damn difference. I'm sure it would have people who would go into a long-winded philosophical discussion bout de way dey dressed have a bearing on how de perform, blah, blah, effing blah!!!!

Men just shit down dance, plain and simple!!!
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Trinitozbone on November 14, 2011, 02:02:50 PM
Why Corneal don't shut up is right! Where is Hutson Charles, it seems he doesn't talk! Corneal should do the same . They are OJTs!
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: elan on November 14, 2011, 03:30:05 PM
Some ah allyuh just need to stop f**kin postin oui!!  So now ah man entertainment devices he using in he f**kin free time is ah problem.  Yuh go swear it ha footage wid man on de bench fiddlin rong wid f**kin ipad an ignorin de coach when he tellin dem warm up nah.  All who f**kin studyin dat is some prime f**kin grade A c0ntholez!!

Daiz why we lorse to first Bermuda and now freaking Guyana, because ah people like alyuh so, always some bligh and f@#king leeway for these fellas. These fellas need to be turned on all the time. They don't have ah freaking clue about playing and staying on the edge, knowing how to play out of their mind.  They need to be taught this. And you and yuh c**thole statement will keep we in the f@#king dump.

Keep giving them bligh, the manner in which yuh show up, dress, and carry about yuhself doh matter. bag ah rocks.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Big Magician on November 14, 2011, 03:34:08 PM
allyuh shoulda see the Hotel the team stayed at in Guyana...  think Mayaro Beach House...shameful
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 14, 2011, 03:34:17 PM
Corneal is full of crap. Friday's debacle was the legacy of the 2006 player blacklist and subsequent pay disputes where the TTFF essentially showed itself to be nothing but a group of scofflaws. If the players showed no heart and comittment, who can blame them? Unfortunately, the shirt they put on doesn't represent T&T, it represents the private interests of Jack Warner and an organization that has treated players and coaches with nothing but contempt. If Anton raises those issues, then perhaps be would get a bit more respect.

In complete agreement, excellent post 
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: elan on November 14, 2011, 03:36:30 PM
Corneal is full of crap. Friday's debacle was the legacy of the 2006 player blacklist and subsequent pay disputes where the TTFF essentially showed itself to be nothing but a group of scofflaws. If the players showed no heart and comittment, who can blame them? Unfortunately, the shirt they put on doesn't represent T&T, it represents the private interests of Jack Warner and an organization that has treated players and coaches with nothing but contempt. If Anton raises those issues, then perhaps be would get a bit more respect.

In complete agreement, excellent post 

 :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 14, 2011, 04:13:38 PM
Some ah allyuh just need to stop f**kin postin oui!!  So now ah man entertainment devices he using in he f**kin free time is ah problem.  Yuh go swear it ha footage wid man on de bench fiddlin rong wid f**kin ipad an ignorin de coach when he tellin dem warm up nah.  All who f**kin studyin dat is some prime f**kin grade A c0ntholez!!

Daiz why we lorse to first Bermuda and now freaking Guyana, because ah people like alyuh so, always some bligh and f@#king leeway for these fellas. These fellas need to be turned on all the time. They don't have ah freaking clue about playing and staying on the edge, knowing how to play out of their mind.  They need to be taught this. And you and yuh c**thole statement will keep we in the f@#king dump.

Keep giving them bligh, the manner in which yuh show up, dress, and carry about yuhself doh matter. bag ah rocks.

Boy shut yuh c0nt eh!!  Wha de f**k "people like me" ha to do with the performance of the players on the field?  How does "people like me" affect whether the players and staff are paid on time or not?  How de f**k "people like me impactin anything of substance imps?!!  So if ah understand yuh correct Hyland having on a Dre Beats headphones and an Ipad is a reflection of poor choice of attire right asshole?!!  So dem f**kin man who I passin dat wukkin Wall Street and have de exact same accessories musse f**kin losers den?  Imagine allyuh f**kin cryin dong man fuh havin ah f**kin headphones an muddazcont Ipad?!!  Yuh eh see allyuh f**kin dotish!!!
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: elan on November 14, 2011, 04:17:45 PM
Some ah allyuh just need to stop f**kin postin oui!!  So now ah man entertainment devices he using in he f**kin free time is ah problem.  Yuh go swear it ha footage wid man on de bench fiddlin rong wid f**kin ipad an ignorin de coach when he tellin dem warm up nah.  All who f**kin studyin dat is some prime f**kin grade A c0ntholez!!

Daiz why we lorse to first Bermuda and now freaking Guyana, because ah people like alyuh so, always some bligh and f@#king leeway for these fellas. These fellas need to be turned on all the time. They don't have ah freaking clue about playing and staying on the edge, knowing how to play out of their mind.  They need to be taught this. And you and yuh c**thole statement will keep we in the f@#king dump.

Keep giving them bligh, the manner in which yuh show up, dress, and carry about yuhself doh matter. bag ah rocks.

Boy shut yuh c0nt eh!!  Wha de f**k "people like me" ha to do with the performance of the players on the field?  How does "people like me" affect whether the players and staff are paid on time or not?  How de f**k "people like me impactin anything of substance imps?!!  So if ah understand yuh correct Hyland having on a Dre Beats headphones and an Ipad is a reflection of poor choice of attire right asshole?!!  So dem f**kin man who I passin dat wukkin Wall Street and have de exact same accessories musse f**kin losers den?  Imagine allyuh f**kin cryin dong man fuh havin ah f**kin headphones an muddazcont Ipad?!!  Yuh eh see allyuh f**kin dotish!!!

You just want to be an arse it seems.

These fellas learn from idiots like you. Anyway, alyuh know best yes. T&T football eh going nowhere.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: RasIred on November 14, 2011, 04:30:05 PM
The headphones and the man purse aint have nothing to do with it!! The problem is the heart and the commitment on the FIELD!! Trinidad players only fight a game when they losing in the last 15 mins of a game!! thats the onkly time they have urgency and apply any pressure!! It have nothing to do with style or head phones and thing.............
Men have to understand this is a job ........ representing your country ,if you cant give a 100% effort in prepation aka trainings / practice .....u shouldbr be on the field n if you cant give it on the field you sure as hell shouldnt be on the team!!

Shabazz correct, men dont have heart!! Talent can only get you so far!!! Men coming in wid some sorf as butter half arse tackling.......waste of time!!
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: elan on November 14, 2011, 04:37:27 PM
We payers gonna have to continue to play for leagues in Vietnam, and for Pune fc, and trials in SA. Because they eh reach nowhere and they want to behave like they reach.

One ah we players went on trials with an MLS team and they really liked his ABILITY, however they thought that he was not HUNGRY enough. He did not have that desire, that fire in his belly to actually make that team and become successful. His attitude was like, I "I'm good at this so ah here."

Not good enough fella. These fellas need to have discipline Drilled into they f@#king skull. These boys need to learn to become men, to work hard and eat dirt when they hungry, and drink they sweat from digging the dirt they eating. It's not just about these fellas and they Ipad or female accesories, it's about the entire approach to the game they say they love.

If you cannot see or understand that then is either you rel f#$king dotish or you don't care about these fellas. Why no one since Yorke can't do anything substantial? This whatever menatality and culture need to stop, it must if we are to progress. The "whappen so ah man cyah wear some headphones?" is not it. Time and Place, importance of the event, the extra concentration and desired needed is critical for these fellas to learn.

Quote
Interview by Mike Woitalla (from Soccer America's Youth Soccer Insider)


SOCCER AMERICA: Are you confident that the players you took to Mexico were the best in the USA at this age group?

WILMER CABRERA: Yes.

SA: Now that you’ve had a week to reflect on your team’s performance in Mexico, what’s your impression?

WILMER CABRERA: The same impression I had at the beginning of the tournament. We have a group of players who cannot yet compete at the highest level with the top teams in the world.

At this age, our boys in the United States, they’re very young, they’re immature. At this age in the top countries, they’re already men. They’re more mature. They’re more professional. They have a more professional mentality.

That is something you cannot manage in practices. You have to live with that. It’s a big advantage the other countries have over us
.



Let's keep that "bligh" mentality and the USA will keep playing friendlies against France, Spain, Brazil, etc. and we will keep getting knocked out by teams in the CFU.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Fyzoman on November 14, 2011, 04:40:04 PM
Ah was going and comment on Maurice Adu and de BBD headphones that he ALWAYS wearing but then ah see he get ah 3 out of 10 rating against France....dat go just be ammo for people to say  "see what ah mean" ;)
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: elan on November 14, 2011, 04:40:44 PM
The headphones and the man purse aint have nothing to do with it!! The problem is the heart and the commitment on the FIELD!! Trinidad players only fight a game when they losing in the last 15 mins of a game!! thats the onkly time they have urgency and apply any pressure!! It have nothing to do with style or head phones and thing.............
Men have to understand this is a job ........ representing your country ,if you cant give a 100% effort in prepation aka trainings / practice .....u shouldbr be on the field n if you cant give it on the field you sure as hell shouldnt be on the team!!Shabazz correct, men dont have heart!! Talent can only get you so far!!! Men coming in wid some sorf as butter half arse tackling.......waste of time!!

Who determine this?
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: elan on November 14, 2011, 04:42:22 PM
Ah was going and comment on Maurice Adu and de BBD headphones that he ALWAYS wearing but then ah see he get ah 3 out of 10 rating against France....dat go just be ammo for people to say  "see what ah mean" ;)

 :frustrated:
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: just cool on November 14, 2011, 06:03:41 PM
allyuh shoulda see the Hotel the team stayed at in Guyana...  think Mayaro Beach House...shameful
Breds, doh be so standoffish nah, @ least give us your take on things. after all, this is ah forum, if yuh was there and you saw things that could've contributed to these result, then please enlighten us.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Bakes on November 14, 2011, 09:53:19 PM
there is much to be said for uniform and dress codes Palos.

...there is much to be said for "focus", period... which I believe is what mukumsplau was hinting at, and which I'm sure most of us got.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: MEP on November 15, 2011, 12:05:48 AM
I think all ah flickin steups f**kin allyuh missin de point. Corneal make a statement and once again he blamin de f**kin players. The one constant with the national team when you take into account various head coaches and black listed players has been ANTON CORNEAL. If you're coaching a team you do not see lack of commitment in hind sight...I wonder what he asks himself during and after practices.... that is where you see the level of commitment and who is half-assing it.
Now the bigger question is to whom is he accountable because as a coach he doesn't seem to understand where his responsibilty begins.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: CK1 on November 15, 2011, 08:37:57 AM
There is much validity to dress code and simple distractions that can make a difference in individual and team performance. Much of the discussion I read tends to focus on one aspect of the football, however, there seems to be a lack of understanding the comprehensive and complex pieces that must all be aligned in order to have sustained performance levels and successes. Look at this story and hear a well respected US College Football coach saying his team did not perform up to standard because the players were distracted by the release of a new video game. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Charlie-Strong-has-seen-the-enemy-and-its-name-?urn=ncaaf-wp9871
One would thing that these things are minor and probably have nothing to do with how a player or team will perform, sorry to say every little detail must be taken into consideration in terms of preparation and mental preparation is often times more critical to success than the physical or technical/tactical.
Having said that, we cannot overlook the issues of conduct across the board from top to bottom Trinidad Football is suffering for the following reasons:1. Compromise, 2. Unprofessionalism, 3. Lack of Dignity and Self Respect, 4. Accountability - both personal and collective, 5. Leadership/Vision.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 15, 2011, 10:56:24 AM
Some ah allyuh just need to stop f**kin postin oui!!  So now ah man entertainment devices he using in he f**kin free time is ah problem.  Yuh go swear it ha footage wid man on de bench fiddlin rong wid f**kin ipad an ignorin de coach when he tellin dem warm up nah.  All who f**kin studyin dat is some prime f**kin grade A c0ntholez!!

Daiz why we lorse to first Bermuda and now freaking Guyana, because ah people like alyuh so, always some bligh and f@#king leeway for these fellas. These fellas need to be turned on all the time. They don't have ah freaking clue about playing and staying on the edge, knowing how to play out of their mind.  They need to be taught this. And you and yuh c**thole statement will keep we in the f@#king dump.

Keep giving them bligh, the manner in which yuh show up, dress, and carry about yuhself doh matter. bag ah rocks.

Boy shut yuh c0nt eh!!  Wha de f**k "people like me" ha to do with the performance of the players on the field?  How does "people like me" affect whether the players and staff are paid on time or not?  How de f**k "people like me impactin anything of substance imps?!!  So if ah understand yuh correct Hyland having on a Dre Beats headphones and an Ipad is a reflection of poor choice of attire right asshole?!!  So dem f**kin man who I passin dat wukkin Wall Street and have de exact same accessories musse f**kin losers den?  Imagine allyuh f**kin cryin dong man fuh havin ah f**kin headphones an muddazcont Ipad?!!  Yuh eh see allyuh f**kin dotish!!!

You just want to be an arse it seems.

These fellas learn from idiots like you. Anyway, alyuh know best yes. T&T football eh going nowhere.

Guy f**k off wit yuh asshole tawk nah.  How de f**k dem learnin anyting from f**kin me or fellaz like me?  I coachin dem?  I is dey f**kin advisor?  What de f**k I do to have such epic impact on these young men cocksucka?!!  You just want to talk shit in yuh f**kin ass oui!  What a man have in he hand coming out de airport eh ha one f**k to do wid football.  Hyland ha dem ting because he could f**kin afford to.  And if he chooses to dat eh yuh f**kin business jackass.  I never hear such utter f**kry in my life nah.  Callin you dotish is ah f**kin insult to dotish people arong de world
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 15, 2011, 11:09:52 AM
There is much validity to dress code and simple distractions that can make a difference in individual and team performance. Much of the discussion I read tends to focus on one aspect of the football, however, there seems to be a lack of understanding the comprehensive and complex pieces that must all be aligned in order to have sustained performance levels and successes. Look at this story and hear a well respected US College Football coach saying his team did not perform up to standard because the players were distracted by the release of a new video game. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Charlie-Strong-has-seen-the-enemy-and-its-name-?urn=ncaaf-wp9871
One would thing that these things are minor and probably have nothing to do with how a player or team will perform, sorry to say every little detail must be taken into consideration in terms of preparation and mental preparation is often times more critical to success than the physical or technical/tactical.
Having said that, we cannot overlook the issues of conduct across the board from top to bottom Trinidad Football is suffering for the following reasons:1. Compromise, 2. Unprofessionalism, 3. Lack of Dignity and Self Respect, 4. Accountability - both personal and collective, 5. Leadership/Vision.

What you citing here is different to the absolute nonsense these people saying breds.  For one thing a video game release and the addictive nature of it does not measure up to an Ipad and headphones.  Certain video games these days are actually causing break ups, sleep deprivation, employment termination, etc.  A game like COD MW for instance has grown men lining up at midnight in anticipation, so the idea of college aged men being distracted by that is not overly far fetched.  Ipad is not a device that by itself would usually cause such behavior as all it is is simply a tablet computer.  Many smart phones are able to do much of the same things only on a smaller scale.  The headphones suggest he either was using the Ipad to watch something or listen to something.  Last I checked people do that sort of stuff on flights everyday.  To the point where some airlines are now offering continuous wifi throughout flights.  So to act as if the mere sight of these things and either a messanger bag or "satchel" which is likely to contain items one would rather not have in a suitcase and within easy reach is beyond assinine.  There is nothing about Hylands appearance that seems to be beyond the norm for anyone period.  The entire team is dressed in their uniform jerseys so that cannot be held against him.  There is no reports or footage of him being insurbordinate with coaches or clowning around whether at practice or games.  So please tell me why anyone would use that as a platform to question the commitment of these young men or Hyland in particular (since it is his accessories that were highlighted to make such a ridiculous observation)
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: elan on November 15, 2011, 11:54:08 AM
Some ah allyuh just need to stop f**kin postin oui!!  So now ah man entertainment devices he using in he f**kin free time is ah problem.  Yuh go swear it ha footage wid man on de bench fiddlin rong wid f**kin ipad an ignorin de coach when he tellin dem warm up nah.  All who f**kin studyin dat is some prime f**kin grade A c0ntholez!!

Daiz why we lorse to first Bermuda and now freaking Guyana, because ah people like alyuh so, always some bligh and f@#king leeway for these fellas. These fellas need to be turned on all the time. They don't have ah freaking clue about playing and staying on the edge, knowing how to play out of their mind.  They need to be taught this. And you and yuh c**thole statement will keep we in the f@#king dump.

Keep giving them bligh, the manner in which yuh show up, dress, and carry about yuhself doh matter. bag ah rocks.

Boy shut yuh c0nt eh!!  Wha de f**k "people like me" ha to do with the performance of the players on the field?  How does "people like me" affect whether the players and staff are paid on time or not?  How de f**k "people like me impactin anything of substance imps?!!  So if ah understand yuh correct Hyland having on a Dre Beats headphones and an Ipad is a reflection of poor choice of attire right asshole?!!  So dem f**kin man who I passin dat wukkin Wall Street and have de exact same accessories musse f**kin losers den?  Imagine allyuh f**kin cryin dong man fuh havin ah f**kin headphones an muddazcont Ipad?!!  Yuh eh see allyuh f**kin dotish!!!

You just want to be an arse it seems.

These fellas learn from idiots like you. Anyway, alyuh know best yes. T&T football eh going nowhere.

Guy f**k off wit yuh asshole tawk nah.  How de f**k dem learnin anyting from f**kin me or fellaz like me?  I coachin dem?  I is dey f**kin advisor?  What de f**k I do to have such epic impact on these young men cocksucka?!!  You just want to talk shit in yuh f**kin ass oui!  What a man have in he hand coming out de airport eh ha one f**k to do wid football.  Hyland ha dem ting because he could f**kin afford to.  And if he chooses to dat eh yuh f**kin business jackass.  I never hear such utter f**kry in my life nah.  Callin you dotish is ah f**kin insult to dotish people arong de world

You is just ah big c**t. Why not address meh next post, look at yuh just being f@#king stupid.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Controversial on November 15, 2011, 01:12:12 PM
the majority of these players only studying to play in foreign

they don't care about if TT goes to a world cup, as long as they get their caps and get out of the country

that is their mentality, they have no pride and patriotism

jones and some others should never see national colors again, other players who have the hunger to play intl football for TT should be given the chance

build on the u23 and disregard the majority of them foreign names, hyland included, over hyped and should never play in the attacking midfield position, he should be a defender or holding mid

jones don't score goals for us, if he want back on the natl team, play him in the back, where he started off and where he will best suit us, otherwise ride out like the rest of sponges
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: RasIred on November 15, 2011, 03:21:45 PM
The headphones and the man purse aint have nothing to do with it!! The problem is the heart and the commitment on the FIELD!! Trinidad players only fight a game when they losing in the last 15 mins of a game!! thats the onkly time they have urgency and apply any pressure!! It have nothing to do with style or head phones and thing.............
Men have to understand this is a job ........ representing your country ,if you cant give a 100% effort in prepation aka trainings / practice .....u shouldbr be on the field n if you cant give it on the field you sure as hell shouldnt be on the team!!Shabazz correct, men dont have heart!! Talent can only get you so far!!! Men coming in wid some sorf as butter half arse tackling.......waste of time!!

Who determine this?
How u mean who determine this ? The coaching staff obviously? Thats the job of the coach...to determine the best 11 to play ! Was that a trick question??
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: fitzinho on November 15, 2011, 03:50:22 PM
the majority of these players only studying to play in foreign

they don't care about if TT goes to a world cup, as long as they get their caps and get out of the country

that is their mentality, they have no pride and patriotism

jones and some others should never see national colors again, other players who have the hunger to play intl football for TT should be given the chance

build on the u23 and disregard the majority of them foreign names, hyland included, over hyped and should never play in the attacking midfield position, he should be a defender or holding mid

jones don't score goals for us, if he want back on the natl team, play him in the back, where he started off and where he will best suit us, otherwise ride out like the rest of sponges
Dude, why should anyone with real ambition aspire to play their entire career in the TT Pro League?? And wouldn't it make sense that those same players that are foreign based are there because they stand out above the players based locally? Why should we refuse to call back our better players? That is just cuttin off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. We on this same site does wonder why when we see a man shining in the local league, why he can't play for Real Madrid da da da...but as soon as they get the contract, oh they feel they too big...smh.
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Deeks on November 15, 2011, 05:03:59 PM
Contro, in this day and age, any player who above the rest and just want to stay home and play is a fool. If he in one of the gov't team, I can understand that a bit. But honestly if that person is that good, the agents go be at his doorstep. And if the offer is good not to refuse, you think he will not take. Was it wrong for all the previous players to take the offers and leave TT? Fellas be realistic, man!!! Remember about 3 guys from the PanAm team got try outs with Mex. teams. What if Pachuca say they wanted Molino. Should he say no?
Title: Re: Corneal knocks commitment of players.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 15, 2011, 05:30:20 PM
the majority of these players only studying to play in foreign

they don't care about if TT goes to a world cup, as long as they get their caps and get out of the country

that is their mentality, they have no pride and patriotism

jones and some others should never see national colors again, other players who have the hunger to play intl football for TT should be given the chance

build on the u23 and disregard the majority of them foreign names, hyland included, over hyped and should never play in the attacking midfield position, he should be a defender or holding mid

jones don't score goals for us, if he want back on the natl team, play him in the back, where he started off and where he will best suit us, otherwise ride out like the rest of sponges

Funny I could have sworn he scored 3 in his last 4 and had 2 assists as well.  But then I doubt he can ever do enough to satisfy some of you here no matter what.  ::)
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