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Sports => Football => Topic started by: socachynee on February 08, 2012, 01:33:13 PM
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Heard on sports radio Fabio resigns as England Manager
I am not an England fan any supporters have their pick who will take over?
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Capello quits England (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1019353/fabio-capello-resigns-as-england-manager?cc=5901)
February 8, 2012
By ESPNsoccernet staff
Fabio Capello has resigned as England manager.
Fabio Capello leaves his meeting with the FA board on Wednesday
An FA statement read: "The Football Association can confirm that Fabio Capello has today resigned as England Manager.
"This follows a meeting involving FA Chairman David Bernstein, FA General Secretary Alex Horne and Fabio Capello at Wembley Stadium.
"The discussions focused on The FA Board's decision to remove the England team captaincy from John Terry, and Fabio Capello's response through an Italian broadcast interview.
"In a meeting for over an hour, Fabio's resignation was accepted and he will leave the post of England Manager with immediate effect."
More to follow...
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Just like that? No Rooney the the first round of the Euros and he threw in the towel
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Just like that? No Rooney the the first round of the Euros and he threw in the towel
:rotfl:
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I'm sure they will find some failed English manager to replace him
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I'm sure they will find some failed English manager to replace him
How about a German....hmmm Pfister???
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A ready-made excuse for when England inevitably "under-perform".
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if they really want to make a statement about racism, the FA will appoint a black manager and replace john terry with a black captain. options for mgr:
- john barnes
- chris hughton
- frank rijkard
- ruud gullit
but i feel they will give harry rednapp the reigns for euro 2012.
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if they really want to make a statement about racism, the FA will appoint a black manager and replace john terry with a black captain. options for mgr:
- john barnes
- chris hughton
- frank rijkard
- ruud gullit
but i feel they will give harry rednapp the reigns for euro 2012.
Tell meh yuh joking. Gullit and Barnes? Two great players that didn't translate that into great management. Hughton is doing a great job at reviving Birmingham, but he is still unproven. Rijkaard ain't too long into his tenure as Saudi Arabia coach.
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doh have much options unfortunately.
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doh have much options unfortunately.
Which is the reason why it won't and shouldn't happen.
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Which is the reason why it won't and shouldn't happen.
Agreed... I see no point in appointing a black manager for the sake of putting someone black in the position. The FA is taking credible enough steps to combat racism that it doesn't need to take such superficial, counterproductive measures.
As for Capello himself, good riddance... mediocre results aside, his stance on the Terry controversy is unacceptable.
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Bookmakers have Redknapp as the hot favorite....just when we had gotten that BS trial over with now there's another distraction.
Personally I think Roy Hodgson is a better candidate though...if you're looking for an English manager.
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Which is the reason why it won't and shouldn't happen.
Agreed... I see no point in appointing a black manager for the sake of putting someone black in the position. The FA is taking credible enough steps to combat racism that it doesn't need to take such superficial, counterproductive measures.
As for Capello himself, good riddance... mediocre results aside, his stance on the Terry controversy is unacceptable.
I don't see how his stance was unacceptable. On principle I agree with him in that someone should not be punished on an accusation. If he had been found guilty of the charges and subsequently had the captain's band taken away from him, then yes.
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Bookmakers have Redknapp as the hot favorite....just when we had gotten that BS trial over with now there's another distraction.
Personally I think Roy Hodgson is a better candidate though...if you're looking for an English manager.
As long as England has the same players, Roy or Harry (or whoever for that matter) will get mere variations of the same level mediocrity from that crop of laborers....
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Bookmakers have Redknapp as the hot favorite....just when we had gotten that BS trial over with now there's another distraction.
Personally I think Roy Hodgson is a better candidate though...if you're looking for an English manager.
As long as England has the same players, Roy or Harry (or whoever for that matter) will get mere variations of the same level mediocrity from that crop of laborers....
kicker, you eh holding back at all dread.
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Bookmakers have Redknapp as the hot favorite....just when we had gotten that BS trial over with now there's another distraction.
Personally I think Roy Hodgson is a better candidate though...if you're looking for an English manager.
As long as England has the same players, Roy or Harry (or whoever for that matter) will get mere variations of the same level mediocrity from that crop of laborers....
Ditto - people only blaming the coaches - the team is just not as good as they think they are or should be. End of discussion.
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Bookmakers have Redknapp as the hot favorite....just when we had gotten that BS trial over with now there's another distraction.
Personally I think Roy Hodgson is a better candidate though...if you're looking for an English manager.
As long as England has the same players, Roy or Harry (or whoever for that matter) will get mere variations of the same level mediocrity from that crop of laborers....
Fair point but if the FA is determined to have an English manager the choices are severely limited. I favor Roy because of his international experience.
That said I think English football has 2 main problems:
- The English media somehow believe that they're perennial contenders to win (despite zero evidence to support that position) and put the team under a microscope, vilify every tiny misstep and as a result they pile immense pressure on the team. Faced with that the players tend to play conservatively to avoid mistakes resulting in very poor performance. Spain had the same problem for a long time.
- The second problem is that English football, despite the glut of foreign players, is still at it's heart more about grit than flair so attempts to make the English team play the attractive football seen in the Premier league will fail in the same way forcing European-style defensive play on the Brazilians did.
I think an English manager especially one with the experience Redknapp or Hodgson will be better able to shield the players from the media and get better performances from the team. I'm not saying that England will be winning any World Cups soon but we should see less fear from the English players on the field.
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I don't see how his stance was unacceptable. On principle I agree with him in that someone should not be punished on an accusation. If he had been found guilty of the charges and subsequently had the captain's band taken away from him, then yes.
This isn't the court of law where "innocent until proven guilty" should be elevated as a concept above all others. This is very much an exercise in social re-engineering (to the extent that the aim is to eradicate well-entrenched mores) as it is an exercise in public relations. The FA can't be taken seriously if it is going to criticize Sepp Blatter and create some arbitrarily harsh penalty for Luis Suarez... and yet at the same time not recognize that unlike those other two, Terry has been charged with a crime. The very fact that the Crown Prosecution Service has seen it fit to bring charges means that there is prima facie evidence of criminal conduct on his part.
Terry shouldn't be "punished", but neither should business go on as usual pending the trial. As an example, it is quite commonplace in fact, for employees (both public and private) to be placed either on suspension with pay or some other form of "modified duty" pending the outcome of a trial or investigation. Police officers are routinely assigned to desk duty pending the outcome of investigations into shootings for example, and then just recently the son of the NYC police commissioner, a news anchor with the local FOX affiliate in NYC was accused of rape. He went on a leave of absence pending the outcome of the investigation (it was decided that there was not enough evidence). My point is that there is sufficient precedent for the FA's position that keeping Terry as captain sends the wrong message, given the totality of the circumstances.
All this aside, once the FA acted, Capello should not have come out and publicly disagree with his employer. This is improper under most ordinary circumstances, let alone under the current, given the gravity of the charge. For these two reasons I say his stance was unacceptable.
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Bookmakers have Redknapp as the hot favorite....just when we had gotten that BS trial over with now there's another distraction.
Personally I think Roy Hodgson is a better candidate though...if you're looking for an English manager.
As long as England has the same players, Roy or Harry (or whoever for that matter) will get mere variations of the same level mediocrity from that crop of laborers....
Ditto - people only blaming the coaches - the team is just not as good as they think they are or should be. End of discussion.
It's not about blaming the coaches. Assuming you are both correct with regards to the dearth of talent, Capello knew of this situation going in and accepted the challenge of improving England's fortunes, he has not. Bottomline is that this is a performance-based profession, and however legitimate we might think the reasons are for the mediocrity under his watch, there's no denying that he has been mediocre as a manager. It's not that unreasonable to have expected better results.
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EDIT: Just reading that Capello posted the best winning percentage of any England manager the past 70 years.
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I don't see how his stance was unacceptable. On principle I agree with him in that someone should not be punished on an accusation. If he had been found guilty of the charges and subsequently had the captain's band taken away from him, then yes.
This isn't the court of law where "innocent until proven guilty" should be elevated as a concept above all others. This is very much an exercise in social re-engineering (to the extent that the aim is to eradicate well-entrenched mores) as it is an exercise in public relations. The FA can't be taken seriously if it is going to criticize Sepp Blatter and create some arbitrarily harsh penalty for Luis Suarez... and yet at the same time not recognize that unlike those other two, Terry has been charged with a crime. The very fact that the Crown Prosecution Service has seen it fit to bring charges means that there is prima facie evidence of criminal conduct on his part.
Terry shouldn't be "punished", but neither should business go on as usual pending the trial. As an example, it is quite commonplace in fact, for employees (both public and private) to be placed either on suspension with pay or some other form of "modified duty" pending the outcome of a trial or investigation. Police officers are routinely assigned to desk duty pending the outcome of investigations into shootings for example, and then just recently the son of the NYC police commissioner, a news anchor with the local FOX affiliate in NYC was accused of rape. He went on a leave of absence pending the outcome of the investigation (it was decided that there was not enough evidence). My point is that there is sufficient precedent for the FA's position that keeping Terry as captain sends the wrong message, given the totality of the circumstances.
All this aside, once the FA acted, Capello should not have come out and publicly disagree with his employer. This is improper under most ordinary circumstances, let alone under the current, given the gravity of the charge. For these two reasons I say his stance was unacceptable.
All right, but I still disagree. If Terry were to be found not guilty, should the FA tuck their tails in-between their legs and reinstated him as Captain? Would their sacking of him been justified if it turned out that all the allegations were false?
It is principle against principle. There was enough negative scrutiny on Terry to prevent things 'going on as usual' and I think the FA were high-handed in their actions (removing him from the captaincy and thus undermining Capello as manager). They should have met behind closed doors and discussed the matter and arrived at a decision that would allow Capello the semblance of authority he needs at the same time allowing the FA to 'take a stance'.
It is not as though Capello has never shown the ability to discipline his players when allegations are proved true - did he not remove the Captain's armband from Terry over the Wayne Bridge affair?
I don't give Capello wrong for feeling aggrieved - and worse yet their very hostile response to his expressing the opinions. He has every right to 'speak out against his employers' - is it in his contract that he could not? He also had every right to resign (or they could have fired him - either or).
I just think this whole thing is a circus.
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Bookmakers have Redknapp as the hot favorite....just when we had gotten that BS trial over with now there's another distraction.
Personally I think Roy Hodgson is a better candidate though...if you're looking for an English manager.
As long as England has the same players, Roy or Harry (or whoever for that matter) will get mere variations of the same level mediocrity from that crop of laborers....
Ditto - people only blaming the coaches - the team is just not as good as they think they are or should be. End of discussion.
It's not about blaming the coaches. Assuming you are both correct with regards to the dearth of talent, Capello knew of this situation going in and accepted the challenge of improving England's fortunes, he has not. Bottomline is that this is a performance-based profession, and however legitimate we might think the reasons are for the mediocrity under his watch, there's no denying that he has been mediocre as a manager. It's not that unreasonable to have expected better results.
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EDIT: Just reading that Capello posted the best winning percentage of any England manager the past 70 years.
lol Nice edit!! :P
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All right, but I still disagree. If Terry were to be found not guilty, should the FA tuck their tails in-between their legs and reinstated him as Captain? Would their sacking of him been justified if it turned out that all the allegations were false?
They wouldn't have to tuck their tails... as I said, it's a suspension of a "privilege" not a punishment. Plenty precedent for that, and in the end the employee is restored to his/her previous standing without the employer have to metaphorically tuck its tail between its legs.
It is principle against principle. There was enough negative scrutiny on Terry to prevent things 'going on as usual' and I think the FA were high-handed in their actions (removing him from the captaincy and thus undermining Capello as manager). They should have met behind closed doors and discussed the matter and arrived at a decision that would allow Capello the semblance of authority he needs at the same time allowing the FA to 'take a stance'.
Capello was given every opportunity to act... is not as you making it seem like they publicly were trying to undermine or infringe upon his authority to discipline is players. Besides, this would not have been a disciplinary matter but rather more akin to an administrative leave from the captaincy.
It is not as though Capello has never shown the ability to discipline his players when allegations are proved true - did he not remove the Captain's armband from Terry over the Wayne Bridge affair?
Again, not about discipline... Terry wasn't being disciplined for anything, not at this point at least.
I don't give Capello wrong for feeling aggrieved - and worse yet their very hostile response to his expressing the opinions. He has every right to 'speak out against his employers' - is it in his contract that he could not? He also had every right to resign (or they could have fired him - either or).
I just think this whole thing is a circus.
Sure he has a right to voice his opinion... and his employers would have had the right to discipline and/or terminate him. I don't think you would dare publicly contradict your employer and not expect some repercussion... would you?
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Per his record, that he was better than all English managers the past 70 yrs itself isn't dispositive... some of the others, how long were they employed for? In the modern era, how does the length of his tenure compare to others? Was he indeed 'good'. or just the best of a bad lot?
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Lots of money involved, Hiddink will show up with his wheel barrow ;D
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He hear Harry was cleared today, so he decide to make it look like he wanted to resign. He done know the axe was coming ;D
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All right, but I still disagree. If Terry were to be found not guilty, should the FA tuck their tails in-between their legs and reinstated him as Captain? Would their sacking of him been justified if it turned out that all the allegations were false?
They wouldn't have to tuck their tails... as I said, it's a suspension of a "privilege" not a punishment. Plenty precedent for that, and in the end the employee is restored to his/her previous standing without the employer have to metaphorically tuck its tail between its legs.
It is principle against principle. There was enough negative scrutiny on Terry to prevent things 'going on as usual' and I think the FA were high-handed in their actions (removing him from the captaincy and thus undermining Capello as manager). They should have met behind closed doors and discussed the matter and arrived at a decision that would allow Capello the semblance of authority he needs at the same time allowing the FA to 'take a stance'.
Capello was given every opportunity to act... is not as you making it seem like they publicly were trying to undermine or infringe upon his authority to discipline is players. Besides, this would not have been a disciplinary matter but rather more akin to an administrative leave from the captaincy.
It is not as though Capello has never shown the ability to discipline his players when allegations are proved true - did he not remove the Captain's armband from Terry over the Wayne Bridge affair?
Again, not about discipline... Terry wasn't being disciplined for anything, not at this point at least.
I don't give Capello wrong for feeling aggrieved - and worse yet their very hostile response to his expressing the opinions. He has every right to 'speak out against his employers' - is it in his contract that he could not? He also had every right to resign (or they could have fired him - either or).
I just think this whole thing is a circus.
Sure he has a right to voice his opinion... and his employers would have had the right to discipline and/or terminate him. I don't think you would dare publicly contradict your employer and not expect some repercussion... would you?
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Per his record, that he was better than all English managers the past 70 yrs itself isn't dispositive... some of the others, how long were they employed for? In the modern era, how does the length of his tenure compare to others? Was he indeed 'good'. or just the best of a bad lot?
If I was upset enough I would have said what I had to say and then resign, like Capello did.
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Hard luck Capello...but...I eh totally blame him.
1) As the manager....he has the right to pick his captain.
Terry shoulda respect the office and step down. Chelsea requested that the trial be put after the season....and obviously after the Euros....hence the date. Yes....he innocent until proven guilty. But.. Knowing that he couldnt be cleared before the tournament....stepping down woulda at least allow him to maintain some modicum of honor....given his list of transgressions. He didnt...capello is the kinda person who judges captains based on their field performance. He didnt initially take the armband from Terry with the wayne bridge saga..but after behind the scene pressure he did. Which is why he took it back from Rio...(in a somewhat poor manner too) and...there they are today.
2) Best thing to do given the cliques etc due to this whole situation...and the dubious team quality....Euros kinda doomed to failure. Take in front before it take you.
3) The FA should have met with him before....explain this to him quiet and deal with it...ideally before he confirmed Terry as captain. This is a serious thing.
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Harry or Lucky Guus.. everyone else can f**k off
Glad the Italian is off.. England needs an expressive coach who will allow them to enjoy football
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Bwahaha!
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Harry or Lucky Guus.. everyone else can f**k off
Glad the Italian is off.. England needs an expressive coach who will allow them to enjoy football
You does spend too much time imitating dem dotish Brits on dem ManU messageboards.
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Harry or Lucky Guus.. everyone else can f**k off
Glad the Italian is off.. England needs an expressive coach who will allow them to enjoy football
You does spend too much time imitating dem dotish Brits on dem ManU messageboards.
Ha ha I agree I don't know how they want to be expressive without creative players. I guess old Steven Gerrard is gonna pull the strings lol. I feel like England should try to play swift counterattacking football with Walcott and Chamberlain flying down the wings and Rooney as the 9, kind of like united does vs superior opposition in the champions league. Nothing special or "creative" just extremely effective. But the England players aren't as good as the United players. On a positive side Micah Richards will finally be back in the squad I really don't know how Johnson been starting over him recently.
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I was being semi-facetious about England's players. I've seen England play well and go toe to toe with more gifted teams than them....and with a good manager they have all right to expect better than they've done. I still think they are missing that special player (or two or three) to take them beyond being a "quarter-final team"...which is usually as good as they get in major int'l competitions...
Capello is one of the most successful in the game and England performed relatively well at times under him particularly in this last Euro qualifying campaign....despite that, his system clearly wasn't working to its best with the crop he was given to work with (and I suppose he as well was a bit fed up of the JT circus)...time to try a better fit - good luck to them.
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1st off for me I can't see how Terry can be Captain with that charge hanging over him and lets face it it was delayed by Chelsea to get the season out of the way, for me Terry shouldn't be in the squad either until its resolved.
Capello knew exactly what he was doing with the interview, has enough got out when he had a reason. Don't think he really got the hang of international manager, with only having the players for short time etc. Said he would only pick players on form in team etc., didn't went on reputations, media and cliche. He knew the media had turned so he was in a no win situation. He still didn't know what his best team was or what formation and would still be in the same situation at the end of the Euro's.
As for the England team, well it does seem to have a lot of player power and a big cliche, pampered by the managers and media. Oxlade Chamberlain who has had a couple of good games for Arsenal is suddenly being spoken about that he is the mainstay of the team, he's only a lad. But the hype surrounding players is immense, for as long as I can remember the England team has been largely chosen on reputation, team play for and transfer fee paid with a pinch of media hype. Its amazing how many times a player has looked like England material and never got a look in until a transfer comes along to a "big club", similarly a better looking player is overlooked for a younger / similar player at a bigger club.
It will be Redknapp, media darling until things go tits up and he will blame the players. As you can tell I very rarely watch or care a great deal about the England Football team.
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Hey kev, do you really think for one minute that harry would leave his gig @ spurs after having such ah wonderful season to go coach troubled england?
is it possible for him to hold down the both positions like hiddink did with both russia and chelsea?
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He will leave for the England job, but probably at the end of the season. He can't lose at the minute, think it will be hard for him to replicate another season mostly in top 3 next year and he knows when to get out, when the going is good.
Bit tricky between now and end of the season though, does he go now, does everybody know he's going, what are the players going to do / react. Spurs as always will take the big compo and move on. Managers don't tend to hang around at the club for long anyway.
It will be his last chance, the odds that he will be in such a great position / age / highly thought of next time it comes around would be very high I would of thought.
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Harry or Lucky Guus.. everyone else can f**k off
Glad the Italian is off.. England needs an expressive coach who will allow them to enjoy football
Did Sven not do that? How did that work out for him! England have to start listening to Public Enemy "Don't believe the hype." ;D
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Hey kev, do you really think for one minute that harry would leave his gig @ spurs after having such ah wonderful season to go coach troubled england?
is it possible for him to hold down the both positions like hiddink did with both russia and chelsea?
I think he could hold it down if it's a short-term assigment (as was Hiddink's Chelsea job)...There's no real overlap between the int'l calendar and the club season, and he'll have a lot less travel thank Hiddink. I'm sure there are other factors to consider, but if it's a short term assigment to take England through the Euros, my sense is that he can do it.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/09/john-terry-fabio-capello
Just as those at the top of the English game were ripping their relationship to shreds, the man at the centre of the storm was conspicuous by his absence. John Terry is in Portugal, having been granted a few days off by Chelsea to nurse the knee he bruised playing for his club in a third-round FA Cup tie. He had departed for the Algarve benefiting from the outspoken backing of Fabio Capello, England manager; he will return bewildered with his principal champion cast from Wembley into the wilderness.
Matters have spiralled out of Terry's control since a member of the public emailed Hammersmith and Fulham police following Chelsea's defeat by Queens Park Rangers on 23 October. The defender's protestations of innocence have not spared him a date in court, with the trial to begin on 9 July. The implications of the ongoing legal process have now effectively cost an England manager — who had, perhaps ill-advisedly, pinned his colours to Terry — his job. Backing the centre-half's right to remain as captain, with the assumption that he was innocent until proved guilty, became the point of principle that broke Don Fabio.
This whole sorry saga had already accumulated too many victims. Anton Ferdinand – the subject of his alleged racially motivated public order offence but a player who neither heard the allegedly offensive language nor subsequently complained to the police – has received death threats, was sent a spent cartridge in the post and was taunted by Chelsea supporters when the two sides met again in the FA Cup.
Rio Ferdinand was booed at Stamford Bridge on Sunday, presumably for having the audacity to offer his younger brother a show of support some 24 hours previously in a television interview with the BBC. Terry has been roundly abused by rival supporters and, unfairly he would argue, lost the armband he cherishes so much. Capello has merely added his name to the list of victims.
Even as an unwitting catalyst Terry could never have envisaged the England manager either being as publicly outspoken as he was on Sunday evening or indeed resigning on Wednesday some four months before Euro 2012. Yet he may now wonder whether he could have warded off an embarrassment that has brought the national set-up to its knees. Much as he revelled in his role as captain, a more honourable course of action might have been to have stood down voluntarily, citing a desire to concentrate on proving his innocence in the months ahead.
It has been pointed out regularly over recent days that public figures, from teachers to politicians, have either resigned or been suspended pending the result of criminal charges. Surely he might have recognised that having the side captained by a player accused of racial abuse might tarnish the image of the whole, given the high-profile nature of the role? Had he been proactive and stepped aside, some amount of dignity might have been preserved. Capello, for his part, would certainly still be in position.
Yet it appears the defender may have considered things differently, possibly concerned that his resignation might tacitly imply guilt, and there is a logic to that argument as well. After all, he has protested his innocence since the immediate aftermath of the first derby at Loftus Road and, over recent weeks as the implications of the charges have become grimly clearer, has clung to a determined and utterly understandable desire to prove them unfounded.
He remains fiercely proud to be selected for his country and had no intention of making himself unavailable, either for the friendly against Holland later this month or for the tournament proper in Ukraine and Poland.
There may now be some private regret that the witness testimonies he hopes to deliver at his trial could not be accumulated more quickly – as the district judge hoped they would – and that the issue will now be unresolved until well into the summer. The setting of a start date eight days after the final of Euro 2012, pushed for by his legal counsel and backed up by a letter from the Chelsea chief executive, Ron Gourlay, had initially felt advantageous. That is no longer the case, either for defence or prosecution.
Now the focus will be on whether Capello's successor deems it appropriate to select Terry as a player for the finals. Harry Redknapp, the favourite to take over, has carried on his work while undergoing his own high-profile trial in recent weeks and would consider the centre-half a natural pick on form and playing reputation. Yet a new man might survey the potential divisions within the dressing room very differently from the departed Capello. Some level of tension was evident within the squad at the get-together in November for the friendlies against Spain and Sweden and it will have festered since. Given that Terry has now lost his main backer, he may justifiably wonder if the new head coach would prefer to avoid the issue altogether and tweak his selection policy accordingly.
It feels somewhat apt that Capello's tenure should have unravelled over Terry given that this has been a recurring theme throughout the Italian's spell with the national team. He was selected initially as captain after a vaguely farcical audition period, then stripped of the honour ahead of the 2010 World Cup finals when the Italian deemed allegations surrounding the centre-half's off-field conduct might divide the squad. Those allegations could be considered less serious than those now engulfing the 31-year-old, and over which Capello chose instead to offer his backing. Regardless, his reappointment a year ago was an indication of the esteem in which he was held as a natural born leader and a figure capable of inspiration. As it is, he has turned out to be the problem that simply refuses to go away.
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As someone partial to Spurs, I would hate to see Harry leave @ this juncture in his project there. However, he certainly merits the look in. On the player perspective side, he'll hit the ground running. Shaka attested to his qualities as a manager ... on several levels, this could be rewarding for England.
Personally though, I would like to see Martin O'Neill in the job sooner rather than later. He's done commendably in the EPL, is principled and is the consummate professional.
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As someone partial to Spurs, I would hate to see Harry leave @ this juncture in his project there. However, he certainly merits the look in. On the player perspective side, he'll hit the ground running. Shaka attested to his qualities as a manager ... on several levels, this could be rewarding for England.
Personally though, I would like to see Martin O'Neill in the job sooner rather than later. He's done commendably in the EPL, is principled and is the consummate professional.
You can bugger off.
He also ruled himself out last night on TV and I don't think he will go there having been turned down when gave it to McClaren
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Yes!! Martin O'Neill for England! Harry is clearly not the man for the job ;D
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I don't think Redknapp will be a good International manager cause he is not a tactician.
Stuart Pearce should be promoted and given a chance.
Brendan Rogers could be someone for the future though.
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I'm a big fan of Brendan Rogers (and Paul Lambert for that matter), but yeah... maybe somewhere down the line.
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I don't think Redknapp will be a good International manager cause he is not a tactician.
Stuart Pearce should be promoted and given a chance.
Brendan Rogers could be someone for the future though.
Thats two things I never thought I would see
Lambert and Rodgers are too young and too much player power to cope although I think both are very good managers.
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I'm a big fan of Brendan Rogers (and Paul Lambert for that matter), but yeah... maybe somewhere down the line.
Brendan Rodgers is building a beautiful house right now, but that foundation was all Roberto Martinez. No guarantee on what he can build from scratch.
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I'm a big fan of Brendan Rogers (and Paul Lambert for that matter), but yeah... maybe somewhere down the line.
Brendan Rodgers is building a beautiful house right now, but that foundation was all Roberto Martinez. No guarantee on what he can build from scratch.
I dunno about all of that.. Martinez laid a nice foundation but has been removed form the Swansea set up what, 3-4 years now? It wasn't Martinez who got them back to back promotion. Martinez is my favorite coach, I've said that on many occasions, but I can't see how credit can be given to him here over Rogers.
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I'm a big fan of Brendan Rogers (and Paul Lambert for that matter), but yeah... maybe somewhere down the line.
Brendan Rodgers is building a beautiful house right now, but that foundation was all Roberto Martinez. No guarantee on what he can build from scratch.
I dunno about all of that.. Martinez laid a nice foundation but has been removed form the Swansea set up what, 3-4 years now? It wasn't Martinez who got them back to back promotion. Martinez is my favorite coach, I've said that on many occasions, but I can't see how credit can be given to him here over Rogers.
He promoted them from League 1 running away and they were already in playoff contention in the Championship the next year when he left. The style of play, the philosophy and much (if not most) of the squad was his doing. Even Swansea fans (who hate 'Judas' with a passion) acknowledge that most of what they are today is because of what he put in place. Rodgers came in and took it to a new level, but who knows what Martinez would've accomplished with them if he'd stayed?
All that to say: Rodgers might be the Next Coming, but he need more than (or more with) Swansea as proof.
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I like most watch the priemer league every weekend, I am a MANU fan however I am not a fan of the English national team they are just not good enough. Capello needed to go his team selection and tactics were very poor. The interrim coaching job has been given to Staurt Pearce he may very well end up getting the job full time. I dont think Harry Redknap will take the job he is right wear he wants to be with a team in the Champions league (barring any mishaps of form with spurs) Roy Hogdson can`t handle big name players, had Martin Oneil not taken that job recently at sundenland he may have been a good candidate
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He promoted them from League 1 running away and they were already in playoff contention in the Championship the next year when he left. The style of play, the philosophy and much (if not most) of the squad was his doing. Even Swansea fans (who hate 'Judas' with a passion) acknowledge that most of what they are today is because of what he put in place. Rodgers came in and took it to a new level, but who knows what Martinez would've accomplished with them if he'd stayed?
All that to say: Rodgers might be the Next Coming, but he need more than (or more with) Swansea as proof.
I get you now... and agree that he probably need to do something in the Prem... keep them up, push for mid-table for a couple seasons, before he's really in contention for National coach.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4120864/England-in-race-storm-No2.html
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Biggest enemy...the media.
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Harry Redknapp 'England job application' goes viral on Twitter (http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddballs/890011-harry-redknapp-england-job-application-goes-viral-on-twitter)
Twitter's community of football fans have been having their fun at the expense of Harry Redknapp - mocking up a joke application for the vacant England job that's gone viral.
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Harry Redknapp's mock up application (Picture: Twitter)
Users poked fun at claims made by Redknapp in court last week that he has very little business acumen and 'writes like a two year old'.
One mock-up application, which has been retweeted over 2,000 times on the micro-blogging site, reads: 'Hi, my name is Arry. Giv me Englerland Job (I pay tax).'
Centre of attention: Redknapp has never been far from the headlines this week (Photo: Getty Images)
Other versions of the letter have also been shared, including one that reads: 'Deer fhay eye wood like tu bee manger uv ingurland tanks Arry.'
Redknapp was in the dock last week over claims he had cheated the Inland Revenue out of the tax on a sum of £189,000 found in a Monaco bank account.
He was subsequently cleared of all charges.
Redknapp was then almost immediately installed as the firm favourite to succeed manager Fabio Capello as the man to lead the Three Lions at Euro 2012, after the Italian quit over a row with the FA about the decision to strip John Terry of the captaincy.
The Spurs boss has admitted he is flattered to be linked with the job and would find it difficult to turn down if he was approached.
'I'd have to consider it obviously,' he told the media at his Friday press conference.
However, he is unlikely to have to submit a written application...
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4120864/England-in-race-storm-No2.html
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Biggest enemy...the media.
I wouldn't wipe my ass with The Sun if it was the last scrap of paper in the toilet.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4120864/England-in-race-storm-No2.html
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Biggest enemy...the media.
I wouldn't wipe my ass with The Sun if it was the last scrap of paper in the toilet.
Page 3 have redeeming qualities
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I don't think Redknapp will be a good International manager cause he is not a tactician.
Stuart Pearce should be promoted and given a chance.
Brendan Rogers could be someone for the future though.
Thats two things I never thought I would see
Lambert and Rodgers are too young and too much player power to cope although I think both are very good managers.
Neither would get the job because they aren't English. The FA toyed with the idea of Martin O'Neill, only because of his long management record and they were in the buy foreign state of mind anyway. After Sven, O'Neill was no less English than Scolari and Hiddink and the others they were considering. In the end they still went with McClaren who could never be considered more successful than O'Neill.
After Capello, in the current climate, with repeated calls for the next manager to be English, a young Scot or Irishman has no chance of getting the job..
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Right now I feel dey ringing Redknapp arm behind the scenes hard hard and throwin' real money behind him...Credit to Harry for being very diplomatic in the press and pledging his allegiance to his Club - Spurs fans will love him for it, but I feel he under real pressure because he really want de England wuk, and right now is a case of how tuh navigate that move without pissing off the Spurs faithful in order to maintain his personal brand as a man of the people...
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Published: Thursday, February 16, 2012
Alvin Corneal
It almost appears that the world’s most popular is taking a beating from the masses on issues which are not even relevant to the happenings on the field. While we all gear ourselves to our TV sets, almost every day giving support to our favourite teams in the various major leagues across the world, two incidents regarding just four players in the EPL have been written into the press as though there is much more concern over these isolated bits of confrontation.
Honestly, I have always had problems with matters of race entering the business of Football, especially when it involves some of the highest paid players in the world. Silently, the blacks over the years tended to conceal the number of times that they were victims with fear of losing their lucrative contracts, while many of the guilty whites placed their rush of blood answers under the heading of acting within their abnormal faculties.
Looking a bit deeper into similar actions of the field among players (and sometimes even the referee), it is unimaginable that the regular use of abusive language used by the players to each other and quite often to the referee himself, without getting pulled up for it. Sometimes, I often wonder what is considered “abusive language” by the officials. Television pictures often pick up” lip reading” when the cameras are taking close up shots, and thanks heavens the microphones are not close enough for us to hear the obscenities which are exchanged by all.
I see this type of behavior as a result of aggravation which could sometimes lead up to any type of derogatory or racial slurs. Fabio Capello did not support the EPL authorities regarding the removal of John Terry from his leadership role in the National team. Clearly, the Italian coaching gismo was prepared to let the Anton Ferdinand incident, which is now a court matter, affect what he may consider some form of disruption of his squad against Holland. Capello has erred in his judgment on this matter, especially when the recent Suarez/Ezra incident is still very much in the air. I respect the management of the English Football Association for their decision, and it only demonstrates that the English pledge the protection of their country’s image over any action which may bring disrepute.
Capello is doing a job and maybe does not feel the sense of patriotism of the English. But his objection of the FA’s decision to the Italian media was unethical and he deserved to leave town. This may be a blessing in disguise for England who should now learn from Germany, Portugal, Italy, Holland, Brasil and Argentina and use the services of their own local experts like Harry Redknapp, Roy Hodgson, Kevin Keegan, or Stuart Pierce. Having said that, one begins to wonder if the absence of black coaches in the EPL, La Liga, Bundesliga, and even the MLS, should not be seen as some type of racial prejudice. Please do not tell me that, of all these famous black players who represented top clubs, none are good enough to be competent coaches. I will admit that the majority of our black brothers in Africa follow a similar trend and bypass their own former stars for some relatively unknown European coaches. The issue is far larger than these pockets of racism and in order to recognize indifferent behavior for the correct reasons, the referees must first clean up their act when it comes to language, action, gesticulation to provide a clearer picture.
This country may often talk racism, but I am pleased that it has always been described as political diatribe and not truly reflective in every day life. If you doubt me, just look at the camaraderie of all the various ethnicities during revelry at carnival time.
ALVIN CORNEAL - HBM
Former National Coach