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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Tallman on October 03, 2012, 04:44:25 PM
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Senior team blanked.
By Anthony Harford.
TTFF Marketing wishes to advise that it has received a negative response to the request for funding the airfares and allowances for the senior national football team to participate in the first round of the Caribbean Cup.
The email response came from the Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Sport Mr. Ashwin Creed who pointed out the ministry is concerned with development because of the abysmal performance of the national senior team.
TTFF marketing, which is charged with the responsibility for marketing and events at the TTFF put in a request for airfares, including the return of five overseas based players, player and staff stipends a weekend camp before leaving and accommodation for 4 persons, as the CFU pays accommodation for 25 of the party of 29. The total requested was TT$423,218.
The TTFF is severely strapped for cash as there has been no government funding since March and the sponsorship funds raised to date have supported the under 17 and under 20 teams both of which played their qualifiers without government support.
TTFF marketing has learnt that the ministry has since paid one bill for the under 17 tournament, but this has not been communicated to TTFF marketing nor the TTFF by the ministry.
It is understood that this invoice was just over $250,000 and paid directly to a hotel. TTFF marketing is continuing its drive to meet the other outstanding invoices for these national teams including payment to other hotels, coaches, catering and transport.
The latest decision by the Ministry may mean the national senior team may have to withdraw from the Caribbean Cup and face CFU and FIFA sanctions. This will also deprive the country of possible participation in the Gold Cup carded for 2013.
See below an extract from Mr Creed's email to TTFF Marketing director Anthony Harford.
From: Ashwin Creed [mailto: ashwincreed@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:20 PM
To: Anthony Harford
Subject: Re: National Senior Team Travel
With regards to the support for the senior team you have been informed on several occasions that the Ministry focus is on development given the abysmal performance of the senior team.
As you are aware their is a note before the Cabinet to treat with the way forward for football. This note is predicated on two consultations held on a development plan for football. The Ministry will be guided by the recommendations of this note following the approval of Cabinet
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Shouldn't a PS know the difference between "their" and "there"?
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Puppet Anil conveniently silent again. While jack pulls his strings
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Let the chips fall where they may
TTFF has a responsibility to ensure the participation of national teams in regional tournaments at all levels.
If those who want to be in charge cannot get this done then please let us take our sanctions and let these people leave.
I have no sentiment about young players missing chances to showcase etc.
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Creed boi keep up d good work that Jack and Anil hv u doin.
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"It good for we!!"
-Big Magician
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Stunning really... money to fete Olympic medalists, money for "pre-budget" rally... but no money for football b/c they not happy with development. It begs the question, was there any "development" while Jack was in charge? One gets the feeling that Jack tightening the noose on the TTFF for having the temerity to buck him in court.
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Jack doesn't care about football , only his own personal agenda. But we all know this already, beating a dead horse. Wonder what will the excuse be this time.
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Stunning really... money to fete Olympic medalists, money for "pre-budget" rally... but no money for football b/c they not happy with development. It begs the question, was there any "development" while Jack was in charge? One gets the feeling that Jack tightening the noose on the TTFF for having the temerity to buck him in court.
You get a feeling?? That sound like you eh sure. I eh know why. Is Jack we talking about here boss. If he cyar play, he take he balls and gone home with them....nasty, stinking, dutty, vampire.....
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What is amazing is that.
1. Jack could still get people do obey him (Anil and now conthole Creed).
2. And even all of this, the TTFF still refusing to sink Jack and join the 06 Warriors to bring down the clown.
3. What is the TTFF plans, to sit and beg or seek until better comes. They know they not getting any Government help a long time ago, get yuh ass up nah and throw some blasted fete match to help make some money, sell something, do something.
4. The TTF should sack Brendon Creed from the Under 17 team, fight fire with fire, f00ck it.
5. Anil Roberts is a panty man and every rope have a end, I just hope he fall so flat he oneday not even a fly would shit on him.
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right, so everybody can wash their mouth now on the officials, shucks! my question is can we do anything? how practical is it for the football organisation in this country to expect the govt to foot the bill every time for every expense. Is there any way to raise funds without going cap in hand to gov't officials? are there any fund raising options? how can corporate people be persuaded to commit funds to assist the team? does the team have a plan? come on so many geniuses on this forum- people with real talents- can't we help the team? we are called 'soca warriors.net' ....
if and when the team starts to win competitions, everybody will jump on the wagon- but the team has to get there first- come on people
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Kamla just give ah man one million dollars that he didn't ask for and ah house worth mils on federation park, but they can't run 450,000 dollars??
hartford and dem will just have to go to the private sector and see if they raised the money, but they can't with draw from this tourney.
to jack warner the cockroach.
all the hell that yuh give boynes and hunt for not funding your greed and knowing what you know, yuh turn and endorse this, i thought on top of all the BS that you did in the past, that maybe you have a limit, but i was wrong.
it eh have nutten you could do that would make me see you in a humane light ever again, yuhs ah fackin evil bastard and your legacy will testify to that!
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right, so everybody can wash their mouth now on the officials, shucks! my question is can we do anything? how practical is it for the football organisation in this country to expect the govt to foot the bill every time for every expense. Is there any way to raise funds without going cap in hand to gov't officials? are there any fund raising options? how can corporate people be persuaded to commit funds to assist the team? does the team have a plan? come on so many geniuses on this forum- people with real talents- can't we help the team? we are called 'soca warriors.net' ....
if and when the team starts to win competitions, everybody will jump on the wagon- but the team has to get there first- come on people
Breds, jack and camps were the masters of that, and when they was trough they left the federation bankrupt after pocketing 188 mill TTD.
this fund raising thing would be ah new entity for the TTFF. every federation in the world relies on the business sector for funding, as far as i know, no other federation rely on the country for funding, maybe they have their own companies and investments that fuel their sustenance, but raffles and shows, i'm not aware of that.
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This why Guyana will continue to cut we arse in football and gold cup will be like qualifying for the world cup to us. I am nostalgic for the days when we use to win the regional competition....
Oh well, this is the new world.
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I dont' mind withholding funds from incompetents. Let de fokkers resign.
However, the reason given by Creed is BS.
Guess this is what happens when JW puppies are given a job.
VB
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As much as Jack had his tentacles in the TTFF for dozens of years. Nobody ever elect Jack into any local federation since 1990. Everybody since then has allowed him to manipulate them and they have all flouted his mantra of no accountability and transparency. Now that he take all d money and gone they crying foul, the whole house must come crumbling down.
Football is big business all over d world with self sustaining models examples abound. But the problem here is that nobody is going to privately financially support anything with a perception of corruption.
If the TTFF manage to send a team somehow i will wish them all the best best but any progress only fortifies them retards in the mind that they doing something good.
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Stunning really... money to fete Olympic medalists, money for "pre-budget" rally... but no money for football b/c they not happy with development. It begs the question, was there any "development" while Jack was in charge? One gets the feeling that Jack tightening the noose on the TTFF for having the temerity to buck him in court.
You get a feeling?? That sound like you eh sure. I eh know why. Is Jack we talking about here boss. If he cyar play, he take he balls and gone home with them....nasty, stinking, dutty, vampire.....
I doh levy accusations lightly... I have no proof so I ent saying ;)
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Warriors pay costs for TTFF/Sport Ministry conflict
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)
Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) marketing manager Anthony Harford accused Sport Minister Anil Roberts of attempting to create a parallel organisation to run local football as the conflict intensified between the two sporting bodies.
Roberts has consistently snubbed the TTFF since National Security Minister Jack Warner asked him to starve the local football body of funds in a letter on 20 April 2012, which was subsequently leaked to Wired868.com.
And Trinidad and Tobago’s senior national team players look set to suffer as a result with the squad’s participation in the upcoming 2012 Digicel Caribbean Cup now in doubt. The TTFF, via a press release yesterday, said the Ministry’s refusal to fund the team could mean its withdrawal from the Caribbean Cup, which serves as a qualifier for the 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup, and possible CFU and FIFA sanctions as well.
“This is our chance to continue our football programme and if these players miss out on tournaments like this it will set us back many, many years,” said national team technical director Anton Corneal. “I feel sorry for the young players that normally would get exposure in this tournament. This is an opportunity for them to go and show what they can do and make a better living for themselves.”
An email allegedly sent by Ashwin Creed, Permanent Secretary to the Sport Ministry, to the TTFF suggested that the senior team was unworthy of funding.
Read More: http://www.wired868.com/2012/10/04/warriors-pay-cost-for-ttffsport-ministry-conflict/
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This really is disgusting. There is no way that the Govt of T&T should sit back and let this happen. However, it is clear that the Minister of National Security is influencing the Minister of Sport. Anil Roberts should make a clear and precise statement to explain why he is damaging not just the development of football in T&T, but also the international reputation of Trinidad & Tobago which has already been tarnished by Jack Warner.
Whether or not he funds TTFF, he could still support the national team in an important tournament. If he's not happy with AllSport, then appoint someone else to work with TTFF. Whats wrong with SPORTT making the arrangements so no money touches TTFF?
It is clear to me that this is vindictiveness by Warner, supported by Roberts, who should be ashamed of his actions.
How can you pay $10 million to promote basketball, but not pay less than $500k to support the nations top sport?
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I said it first long long time ago...TNT will be without a national team real soon and I think the time is here... what a f**king shame ..... its better off this way instead we going and shit dung we self ..
war
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Warriors pay costs for TTFF/Sport Ministry conflict
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)
Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation (TTFF) marketing manager Anthony Harford accused Sport Minister Anil Roberts of attempting to create a parallel organisation to run local football as the conflict intensified between the two sporting bodies.
Roberts has consistently snubbed the TTFF since National Security Minister Jack Warner asked him to starve the local football body of funds in a letter on 20 April 2012, which was subsequently leaked to Wired868.com.
And Trinidad and Tobago’s senior national team players look set to suffer as a result with the squad’s participation in the upcoming 2012 Digicel Caribbean Cup now in doubt. The TTFF, via a press release yesterday, said the Ministry’s refusal to fund the team could mean its withdrawal from the Caribbean Cup, which serves as a qualifier for the 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup, and possible CFU and FIFA sanctions as well.
“This is our chance to continue our football programme and if these players miss out on tournaments like this it will set us back many, many years,” said national team technical director Anton Corneal. “I feel sorry for the young players that normally would get exposure in this tournament. This is an opportunity for them to go and show what they can do and make a better living for themselves.”
An email allegedly sent by Ashwin Creed, Permanent Secretary to the Sport Ministry, to the TTFF suggested that the senior team was unworthy of funding.
Read More: http://www.wired868.com/2012/10/04/warriors-pay-cost-for-ttffsport-ministry-conflict/
Good stuff Lasana... too early fo'day morning to go thru the entire article, but ah di'n know about de leaked letter telling Anil tuh squeeze de TTFF stones. Will digest once ah land.
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This really is disgusting. There is no way that the Govt of T&T should sit back and let this happen. However, it is clear that the Minister of National Security is influencing the Minister of Sport. Anil Roberts should make a clear and precise statement to explain why he is damaging not just the development of football in T&T, but also the international reputation of Trinidad & Tobago which has already been tarnished by Jack Warner.
Whether or not he funds TTFF, he could still support the national team in an important tournament. If he's not happy with AllSport, then appoint someone else to work with TTFF. Whats wrong with SPORTT making the arrangements so no money touches TTFF?
It is clear to me that this is vindictiveness by Warner, supported by Roberts, who should be ashamed of his actions.
How can you pay $10 million to promote basketball, but not pay less than $500k to support the nations top sport?
Cricket need money too?
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What has become of TT football when we dont have money to take part in the Caribbean Cup,come back JW all is forgiven,at least we had money during his time.The likes of Grenada and St.Vincent will be taking part,what a sad stat of affairs.
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This is not a good time to come with this argument, but i will say what's been on my mind for a while regardless, and now maybe a good time as any.
i know it have nuff members who dislike the way i does roll, sometimes i may come over as very shallow and offensive especially to the non afro brothers on the site, and some may even go as far as to even insinuate that i may have bigoted views, but i'm here to clear the air on how i really feel, and have been feeling for quite a few yrs.
not that it's anyone concern, but i have been having a change of heart since 4yrs ago when i have been having problems with family members , which caused to take a closer look @ my life and the ppl around me, and when i did that i got ah rude awakening.
all along i used to see white ppl and any other ethnic group as my enemies (hateful, grudgeful, and hold a ton of malice towards black ppl,), i saw my ppl as the ultimate and the rest as oppressors which was very naive of me. up until four yr ago i ws livin with blinkers on (could only see in one direction) but when i started reflecting on life i saw where "my" people was my biggest enemies and oppressors!
ppl , the more i opened my eyes the more i see how devious my ppl was, especially towards each other. i looked @ all my breddren who pick up corn and lose their lives over real trivial shyte, things that could have been squashed with simple reasoning, but wind up in the death of ah healthy young man / woman over the ego manic negro sub culture.
the reason i'm coming off like this is bc jack wanrer is a perfect exmaple of what i'm eluding to. i telling yuhs ppl , that this man has all the indgredience to make a very good gang leader, he's cold , malicious , selfish and vindictive, all the makings of a very good scum bag.
i watch @ plenty black men in authority the wo4rld over and almost all of them are sooooo detached from the needs of the ppl in their care that it's mind boggling.
yrs ago i used to bigup black ppl no matter what, buyt now iu see them i a very different light, and can't help but feel that the most disgusting ppl on the earth IMO is (and i generaliz9ng here) black fackin ppl! not bc of what jak did, but for the fact that i see these ppl's action every day, and i must say that i loathe these people including jack warner, i wish him all the worst that black muggly cocks#cker!
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What has become of TT football when we dont have money to take part in the Caribbean Cup,come back JW all is forgiven,at least we had money during his time.
Nice joke, money not going to solve our problems
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Remember guys, Jack Warner is KING of Trinidad and Tobago and the faster you guys learn to accept this the easier your heart will burn you.
No money for the current TTFF until they resign and it will continue to be this way, I will personally make sure of this.
You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down, now the TTFF will have to go through the same fete, Jack will strangle them until they eventually break.
The Trinidad and Tobago team will face FIFA saction very soon. :devil:
Football in T&T will be dead and this site will soon follow as their will be nothing to write about or publish. Jack wins again and the funny thing is, he is not even in football anymore...!!!!
Just cool, a personal message for you, Jack is the smartest blackman you will ever meet.
Jack will rise again and the world will beg for him to come back and I hope he says NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sad day indeed! But anyone here really thinks T&T was going to win the Digicel Cup, or much less make a note in the Gold Cup if qualified? Obvious politricks aside, from a Business standpoint it makes sense... Why throw half a million down the drain? Let Gov't and Corporate T&T pump money instead to an Under 17 program...
Lasana, buss the letter from JW to Spalk nah!
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Remember guys, Jack Warner is KING of Trinidad and Tobago and the faster you guys learn to accept this the easier your heart will burn you.
No money for the current TTFF until they resign and it will continue to be this way, I will personally make sure of this.
You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down, now the TTFF will have to go through the same fete, Jack will strangle them until they eventually break.
The Trinidad and Tobago team will face FIFA saction very soon. :devil:
Football in T&T will be dead and this site will soon follow as their will be nothing to write about or publish. Jack wins again and the funny thing is, he is not even in football anymore...!!!!
Just cool, a personal message for you, Jack is the smartest blackman you will ever meet.
Jack will rise again and the world will beg for him to come back and I hope he says NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down This one statement now makes me realise that you really don't know whats going on or how your lover is running around panicking behind the scenes as he sees the 17th October court date approaching.
Horner, roll over in bed, give your boy a kiss and ask him how it feels to know his world will collapse in two weeks time!!
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Remember guys, Jack Warner is KING of Trinidad and Tobago and the faster you guys learn to accept this the easier your heart will burn you.
No money for the current TTFF until they resign and it will continue to be this way, I will personally make sure of this.
You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down, now the TTFF will have to go through the same fete, Jack will strangle them until they eventually break.
The Trinidad and Tobago team will face FIFA saction very soon. :devil:
Football in T&T will be dead and this site will soon follow as their will be nothing to write about or publish. Jack wins again and the funny thing is, he is not even in football anymore...!!!!
Just cool, a personal message for you, Jack is the smartest blackman you will ever meet.
Jack will rise again and the world will beg for him to come back and I hope he says NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And you proud of this? Lol
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You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down This one statement now makes me realise that you really don't know whats going on or how your lover is running around panicking behind the scenes as he sees the 17th October court date approaching.
Horner, roll over in bed, give your boy a kiss and ask him how it feels to know his world will collapse in two weeks time!!
October 17th....noted!! I meant to ask when is the next date a while now.....
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You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down This one statement now makes me realise that you really don't know whats going on or how your lover is running around panicking behind the scenes as he sees the 17th October court date approaching.
Horner, roll over in bed, give your boy a kiss and ask him how it feels to know his world will collapse in two weeks time!!
October 17th....noted!! I meant to ask when is the next date a while now.....
It's the contempt of court hearing, but it will impact tremendously on the actual case.
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Not sure if this was already posted....sorry if it's a repost
NO CARIBBEAN CUP
Ministry of Sport blanks senior footballers
By IAN PRESCOTT
Story Created: Oct 4, 2012 at 12:06 AM ECT
Story Updated: Oct 4, 2012 at 12:06 AM ECT
Trinidad and Tobago football has hit a new low.
Six years after playing in the 2006 FIFA World Cup, the Soca Warriors will not compete in the Caribbean Cup--unless a major sponsor comes forward in the next week. This comes after the Ministry of Sport, headed by Anil Roberts, blanked a $423,218 request from the T&T Football Federation (TTFF) to fund the team's participation in the opening round of Caribbean qualifying, due to take place in St Kitts-Nevis.
T&T are due to play French Guiana on October 10 in Basseterre, Anguilla two days later, and hosts St Kitts-Nevis on October 14.
But on Tuesday, the marketing arm of the TTFF received notice from the Ministry, which indicated it will not support the senior team, based on T&T's elimination from World Cup qualifying by Guyana, last November. The Ministry's position was relayed by Permanent Secretary Ashwin Creed in an e-mail to Anthony Harford, who heads the TTFF'S marketing arm.
"With regards to the support for the senior team you have been informed on several occasions that the Ministry focus is on development given the abysmal performance of the senior team," Creed declared. "As you are aware there is a note before the Cabinet to treat with the way forward for football. This note is predicated on two consultations held on a development plan for football. The Ministry will be guided by the recommendations of this note following the approval of Cabinet."
T&T is the most successful country in the history of Caribbean football, having competed in all 17 tournaments, winning eight times. Jamaica have won five titles. The Caribbean Cup is a qualifier for the CONCACAF Gold Cup, which serves as preparation for FIFA World Cup qualifiers.
Yesterday, Harford informed the media of the Ministry's shock decision not to support the national team.
"TTFF marketing wishes to advise that it has received a negative response to the request for funding the airfares and allowances for the senior national football team to participate in the first round of the Caribbean Cup. The email response came from the permanent secretary in the Ministry of Sport, Mr. Ashwin Creed, who pointed out the ministry is concerned with development because of the abysmal performance of the national senior team," Harford said. "TTFF marketing, which is charged with the responsibility for marketing and events at the TTFF put in a request for airfares, including the return of five overseas-based players, player and staff stipends, a weekend camp before leaving, and accommodation for four persons, as the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) pays accommodation for 25 of the party of 29. The total requested was TT$423,218."
Harford told the Express that while talks were ongoing with potential sponsors, nothing was confirmed. He said that while the TTFF had raised some funds earlier this year, all went into the preparation of the Olympic men's team and under-17 and under-20 women's teams for qualifying tournaments.
"The TTFF is severely strapped for cash as there has been no Government funding since March and the sponsorship funds raised to date have supported the under 17 and under 20 teams both of which played their qualifiers without Government support. TTFF marketing has learnt that the Ministry has since paid one bill for the under 17 tournament, but this has not been communicated to TTFF marketing nor the TTFF by the Ministry. It is understood that this invoice was just over $250,000 and paid directly to a hotel. TTFF marketing is continuing its drive to meet the other outstanding invoices for these national teams, including payment to other hotels, coaches, catering and transport."
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You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down This one statement now makes me realise that you really don't know whats going on or how your lover is running around panicking behind the scenes as he sees the 17th October court date approaching.
Horner, roll over in bed, give your boy a kiss and ask him how it feels to know his world will collapse in two weeks time!!
October 17th....noted!! I meant to ask when is the next date a while now.....
co-signnnnn
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Remember guys, Jack Warner is KING of Trinidad and Tobago and the faster you guys learn to accept this the easier your heart will burn you.
No money for the current TTFF until they resign and it will continue to be this way, I will personally make sure of this.
You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down, now the TTFF will have to go through the same fete, Jack will strangle them until they eventually break.
The Trinidad and Tobago team will face FIFA saction very soon. :devil:
Football in T&T will be dead and this site will soon follow as their will be nothing to write about or publish. Jack wins again and the funny thing is, he is not even in football anymore...!!!!
Just cool, a personal message for you, Jack is the smartest blackman you will ever meet.
Jack will rise again and the world will beg for him to come back and I hope he says NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plz explain to me how the death of football in this country makes Jack Warner a winner.
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http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/NO_CARIBBEAN_CUP-172590221.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/NO_CARIBBEAN_CUP-172590221.html)
NO CARIBBEAN CUP
Ministry of Sport blanks senior footballers
By IAN PRESCOTT
Trinidad and Tobago football has hit a new low.
Six years after playing in the 2006 FIFA World Cup, the Soca Warriors will not compete in the Caribbean Cup--unless a major sponsor comes forward in the next week. This comes after the Ministry of Sport, headed by Anil Roberts, blanked a $423,218 request from the T&T Football Federation (TTFF) to fund the team's participation in the opening round of Caribbean qualifying, due to take place in St Kitts-Nevis.
T&T are due to play French Guiana on October 10 in Basseterre, Anguilla two days later, and hosts St Kitts-Nevis on October 14.
But on Tuesday, the marketing arm of the TTFF received notice from the Ministry, which indicated it will not support the senior team, based on T&T's elimination from World Cup qualifying by Guyana, last November. The Ministry's position was relayed by Permanent Secretary Ashwin Creed in an e-mail to Anthony Harford, who heads the TTFF'S marketing arm.
"With regards to the support for the senior team you have been informed on several occasions that the Ministry focus is on development given the abysmal performance of the senior team," Creed declared. "As you are aware there is a note before the Cabinet to treat with the way forward for football. This note is predicated on two consultations held on a development plan for football. The Ministry will be guided by the recommendations of this note following the approval of Cabinet."
T&T is the most successful country in the history of Caribbean football, having competed in all 17 tournaments, winning eight times. Jamaica have won five titles. The Caribbean Cup is a qualifier for the CONCACAF Gold Cup, which serves as preparation for FIFA World Cup qualifiers.
Yesterday, Harford informed the media of the Ministry's shock decision not to support the national team.
"TTFF marketing wishes to advise that it has received a negative response to the request for funding the airfares and allowances for the senior national football team to participate in the first round of the Caribbean Cup. The email response came from the permanent secretary in the Ministry of Sport, Mr. Ashwin Creed, who pointed out the ministry is concerned with development because of the abysmal performance of the national senior team," Harford said. "TTFF marketing, which is charged with the responsibility for marketing and events at the TTFF put in a request for airfares, including the return of five overseas-based players, player and staff stipends, a weekend camp before leaving, and accommodation for four persons, as the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) pays accommodation for 25 of the party of 29. The total requested was TT$423,218."
Harford told the Express that while talks were ongoing with potential sponsors, nothing was confirmed. He said that while the TTFF had raised some funds earlier this year, all went into the preparation of the Olympic men's team and under-17 and under-20 women's teams for qualifying tournaments.
"The TTFF is severely strapped for cash as there has been no Government funding since March and the sponsorship funds raised to date have supported the under 17 and under 20 teams both of which played their qualifiers without Government support. TTFF marketing has learnt that the Ministry has since paid one bill for the under 17 tournament, but this has not been communicated to TTFF marketing nor the TTFF by the Ministry. It is understood that this invoice was just over $250,000 and paid directly to a hotel. TTFF marketing is continuing its drive to meet the other outstanding invoices for these national teams, including payment to other hotels, coaches, catering and transport."
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Remember guys, Jack Warner is KING of Trinidad and Tobago and the faster you guys learn to accept this the easier your heart will burn you.
No money for the current TTFF until they resign and it will continue to be this way, I will personally make sure of this.
You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down, now the TTFF will have to go through the same fete, Jack will strangle them until they eventually break.
The Trinidad and Tobago team will face FIFA saction very soon. :devil:
Football in T&T will be dead and this site will soon follow as their will be nothing to write about or publish. Jack wins again and the funny thing is, he is not even in football anymore...!!!!
Just cool, a personal message for you, Jack is the smartest blackman you will ever meet.
Jack will rise again and the world will beg for him to come back and I hope he says NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plz explain to me how the death of football in this country makes Jack Warner a winner.
Ent, Men have real misguided goals. The man happy it have no football in the country and proud of it. Football doesn't belong to anyone
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Remember guys, Jack Warner is KING of Trinidad and Tobago and the faster you guys learn to accept this the easier your heart will burn you.
No money for the current TTFF until they resign and it will continue to be this way, I will personally make sure of this.
You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down, now the TTFF will have to go through the same fete, Jack will strangle them until they eventually break.
The Trinidad and Tobago team will face FIFA saction very soon. :devil:
Football in T&T will be dead and this site will soon follow as their will be nothing to write about or publish. Jack wins again and the funny thing is, he is not even in football anymore...!!!!
Just cool, a personal message for you, Jack is the smartest blackman you will ever meet.
Jack will rise again and the world will beg for him to come back and I hope he says NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plz explain to me how the death of football in this country makes Jack Warner a winner.
Ent, Men have real misguided goals. The man happy it have no football in the country and proud of it. Football doesn't belong to anyone
what do you expect when the poster is Jack himself (Directly or indirectly)! It just goes to show the selfishness of the man. Thief all the money and then party when the game dies and players suffer.
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Every time I think T&T football can't fall any further they manage to surprise me.
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I know I may get some stick for this, but I think we should all chip in and help the T&T senior team?
Truetrini did mention to me a while back about supporting the T&T Women U-17 team and I too was reluctant because of the people (some) in office, however, the buck needs to stop somewhere.
Again, I myself are not too happy with some of the current personnel there, but I say we give it one last ditch to see if things could change for the better. Hopefully the TTFF will get the message and try to stand on their two feet for future events and not rely on our Government (but that's a long story)....
In the meantime, If we unity people like Warner, Creed and Roberts cannot continue to win. They have that bond, we need to do the same....
Let us stand behind our team guys.
Another suggestion is and this is only a suggestion, the foreign players should all chip in as well or the ones invited, buy their own tickets? again, just a suggestion, but we need to stand up for each other.
Anyone wishing to donate can contact; Click Here (https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=Xf7D3Qpfpv2gNxpJ56zWlKLKNCKq7c_Ko2bZQmaPxO69b52oTpmIuaqf5ku&dispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8db02a037e263542f58098410815cf7df7).
Regards.
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Remember guys, Jack Warner is KING of Trinidad and Tobago and the faster you guys learn to accept this the easier your heart will burn you.
No money for the current TTFF until they resign and it will continue to be this way, I will personally make sure of this.
You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down, now the TTFF will have to go through the same fete, Jack will strangle them until they eventually break.
The Trinidad and Tobago team will face FIFA saction very soon. :devil:
Football in T&T will be dead and this site will soon follow as their will be nothing to write about or publish. Jack wins again and the funny thing is, he is not even in football anymore...!!!!
Just cool, a personal message for you, Jack is the smartest blackman you will ever meet.
Jack will rise again and the world will beg for him to come back and I hope he says NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Build a shrine to him.
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This is a sick and disgusting behind the scenes reprisal on the part of Jackula Warner's part. Someone needs to literally put him to the sword. :pissedoff:
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http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/NO_CARIBBEAN_CUP-172590221.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/NO_CARIBBEAN_CUP-172590221.html)
NO CARIBBEAN CUP
Ministry of Sport blanks senior footballers
By IAN PRESCOTT
Trinidad and Tobago football has hit a new low.
Six years after playing in the 2006 FIFA World Cup, the Soca Warriors will not compete in the Caribbean Cup--unless a major sponsor comes forward in the next week. This comes after the Ministry of Sport, headed by Anil Roberts, blanked a $423,218 request from the T&T Football Federation (TTFF) to fund the team's participation in the opening round of Caribbean qualifying, due to take place in St Kitts-Nevis.
T&T are due to play French Guiana on October 10 in Basseterre, Anguilla two days later, and hosts St Kitts-Nevis on October 14.
But on Tuesday, the marketing arm of the TTFF received notice from the Ministry, which indicated it will not support the senior team, based on T&T's elimination from World Cup qualifying by Guyana, last November. The Ministry's position was relayed by Permanent Secretary Ashwin Creed in an e-mail to Anthony Harford, who heads the TTFF'S marketing arm.
"With regards to the support for the senior team you have been informed on several occasions that the Ministry focus is on development given the abysmal performance of the senior team," Creed declared. "As you are aware there is a note before the Cabinet to treat with the way forward for football. This note is predicated on two consultations held on a development plan for football. The Ministry will be guided by the recommendations of this note following the approval of Cabinet."
T&T is the most successful country in the history of Caribbean football, having competed in all 17 tournaments, winning eight times. Jamaica have won five titles. The Caribbean Cup is a qualifier for the CONCACAF Gold Cup, which serves as preparation for FIFA World Cup qualifiers.
Yesterday, Harford informed the media of the Ministry's shock decision not to support the national team.
"TTFF marketing wishes to advise that it has received a negative response to the request for funding the airfares and allowances for the senior national football team to participate in the first round of the Caribbean Cup. The email response came from the permanent secretary in the Ministry of Sport, Mr. Ashwin Creed, who pointed out the ministry is concerned with development because of the abysmal performance of the national senior team," Harford said. "TTFF marketing, which is charged with the responsibility for marketing and events at the TTFF put in a request for airfares, including the return of five overseas-based players, player and staff stipends, a weekend camp before leaving, and accommodation for four persons, as the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) pays accommodation for 25 of the party of 29. The total requested was TT$423,218."
Harford told the Express that while talks were ongoing with potential sponsors, nothing was confirmed. He said that while the TTFF had raised some funds earlier this year, all went into the preparation of the Olympic men's team and under-17 and under-20 women's teams for qualifying tournaments.
"The TTFF is severely strapped for cash as there has been no Government funding since March and the sponsorship funds raised to date have supported the under 17 and under 20 teams both of which played their qualifiers without Government support. TTFF marketing has learnt that the Ministry has since paid one bill for the under 17 tournament, but this has not been communicated to TTFF marketing nor the TTFF by the Ministry. It is understood that this invoice was just over $250,000 and paid directly to a hotel. TTFF marketing is continuing its drive to meet the other outstanding invoices for these national teams, including payment to other hotels, coaches, catering and transport."
As sympathetic as I am towards the National team, I would continue to ask how TTFF are funding their legal team in the 2006 case. Next date is the 17th October. If they bring down a Q.C. from England, he will cost around TT$250,000 plus business/first class travel and hotel. That would virtually cover the national team costs. Option 2 would be to work WITH the 2006 players and recover the $100 million from the LOC. That would fund the national team for 10 years.
I would help anybody in financial difficulty....but only if they were fighting for themselves, which TTFF clearly are not.
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Flex, your intentions are pure, but I feel you are just assisting those who should not be assisted. Save your money for when they've gone. If the people of T&T are prepared to let this happen, so help them. No ones marching in the streets or standing outside the Ministry of Sport. Keeping football on life support won't help. Let it die. And when it's dead along with the carrion that have lived off its carcass have left to pick other bones, football can be reinvented. And come election time, we must remind T&T of Anils role in its demise.
As sympathetic as I am towards the National team, I would continue to ask how TTFF are funding their legal team in the 2006 case. Next date is the 17th October. If they bring down a Q.C. from England, he will cost around TT$250,000 plus business/first class travel and hotel. That would virtually cover the national team costs. Option 2 would be to work WITH the 2006 players and recover the $100 million from the LOC. That would fund the national team for 10 years.
I would help anybody in financial difficulty....but only if they were fighting for themselves, which TTFF clearly are not.
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Good work Flex, I've just donated one TT dollar to your cause.
That should pay for one head of lettuce from Anton.
These guys prefer to sell lettuce in the market for themselves than sell T&T shirts and tickets for the T&T team.
How can they beat Jack.
Nice one Flex, but T&T football will always suffer because the fans do not care.
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They say if you can't wow people with brilliance then baffle them with bullshit.
This from a TTFF insider: Another TTFF insider, who spoke on condition of anonymity, agreed with Harford’s conclusion.
“I can’t understand how (the Sport Ministry) can allow one person to have so much control,” he said, “and how man can be so vindictive. How can Anil Roberts think this is fair?” :rotfl: :cursing:
Jackass controlled you and your incompetent, unprofessional, kindergarten bullshit organization for years. Yeah, one man. The same vindictive man that you and the rest of the dim wits over there in the TTFF are so afraid of.
This is my message to you and the rest of dim wits at the TTFF: It is now time to get you"ll heads out of your asses and man up. Step aside for the sake of those children Cornmeal referred to in his attempt to collect sympathy from those of us not baffled by the bullshit and to play the scare game, ala, the Republican Party here in the U.S., with those who are sympathizers.
You cannot be serious. Idiot, please don't. ???
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I think we will do more for football in this country if we focus our energies on getting rid of the current administration rather than propping up the teams.
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I think we will do more for football in this country if we focus our energies on getting rid of the current administration rather than propping up the teams.
Pardners, I think I'm with you on this one. Flex, I know this must be real hurting eh, but ENOUGH!! I'm sorry but not my little kakada.....
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Remember guys, Jack Warner is KING of Trinidad and Tobago and the faster you guys learn to accept this the easier your heart will burn you.
No money for the current TTFF until they resign and it will continue to be this way, I will personally make sure of this.
You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down, now the TTFF will have to go through the same fete, Jack will strangle them until they eventually break.
The Trinidad and Tobago team will face FIFA saction very soon. :devil:
Football in T&T will be dead and this site will soon follow as their will be nothing to write about or publish. Jack wins again and the funny thing is, he is not even in football anymore...!!!!
Just cool, a personal message for you, Jack is the smartest blackman you will ever meet.
Jack will rise again and the world will beg for him to come back and I hope he says NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plz explain to me how the death of football in this country makes Jack Warner a winner.
Ent, Men have real misguided goals. The man happy it have no football in the country and proud of it. Football doesn't belong to anyone
what do you expect when the poster is Jack himself (Directly or indirectly)! It just goes to show the selfishness of the man. Thief all the money and then party when the game dies and players suffer.
How will Jack win ? He gets his way regardless of the outcome.
Doh forget Jack is the proprietor of the TTFF, so even if sponsors jump in and help the team, things continue as they are now...TTFF still come out smelling nice. If he doesn't put money...no love lost...money still in he pocket.
The only real way to hurt Jack now rests on the court case with the warriors. Although it done looking as though the judge pandering to Jack already. Anybody else woulda done get they arse hauled to jailed for not following the court's instructions. It looking as though everybody in office fraid this man called Jack Warner.
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I could understand where Flex coming from...but remember for how many years we wear jerseys at games ? Remember how we print signs and banners ? Remember how we talked about boycotting the team games...just to prove we disgust with the football operations ?
Remember how men would still go to the games...some men hiding from having to show support for the cause. Well truth be told...deep down inside we still wanted the best for our national teams and we wanted to see good football...in spite of the corruption in TTFF.
Well look we ent have to do a damn thing now...massa day come. But yes I know...we still feel the urge to help out the boys. But will we really be helping them with handouts ?
I drop mih breds home the other day...he was rushing to go in the airport to pick up his son who played against Canada with the national team last month. He telling me he couldn't understand why he got a call at midnight telling him to bring his son to the airport for 6am to leave with the NT to play Canada. Well we know now is only because the National Lotteries Board stepped in last minute and give the team a bligh. They just called up whoever was available (and had visas), no matter what age, and tell them come and take a sweat. A youth man on the current Pres team was just hanging out in the area over there...went to watch the game and the coach call him and give him a sweat...just so just so he win a national cap.
I feel we might create a situation that have them wondering "so we getting to play this game...but what about the game after this one...and the one after that one...and the one after...."
It hard enough training hard and not knowing whether yuh making the team or not...It can't be right having to buss yuh arse in training, make the team, and then not knowing whether yuh going to the tournament or not.
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The irony of it all is the pretext under which they refuse to fund the senior team, claiming football development or the lack thereof which that blame goes sorely on the previous president mr oliver camps and special adviser (back door president, AKA wizard of OZ, the unseen hand) jack warner, the same man who is now silent during this whole debacle.
why weren't they worried about development in late 2010 when they went and hire the german, or 7 months after when we had not played a solitary game in prep for WCQ?
king dese, i agree with you, but there are ppl who were never stooges to jack in the past admin, and according to my breddren who happens to know the present president very well, lennex watson was never a jack yes man, and he used to dog camps for being soft and not having the balls to stand up to jack.
yeh, though watson was a good friend of jack, he also had the strength of mind to put jack in his place if he felt encroached on, i believe that this man has the potential to make a good pres, he just came @ the wrong time. like i said before, i believe in hartford and watson, i believe if these men are given the chance they could make the necessary change that is needed in football, but they just need ah break.
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The irony of it all is the pretext under which they refuse to fund the senior team, claiming football development or the lack thereof which that blame goes sorely on the previous president mr oliver camps and special adviser (back door president, AKA wizard of OZ, the unseen hand) jack warner, the same man who is now silent during this whole debacle.
why weren't they worried about development in late 2010 when they went and hire the german, or 7 months after when we had not played a solitary game in prep for WCQ?
king dese, i agree with you, but there are ppl who were never stooges to jack in the past admin, and according to my breddren who happens to know the present president very well, lennex watson was never a jack yes man, and he used to dog camps for being soft and not having the balls to stand up to jack.
yeh, though watson was a good friend of jack, he also had the strength of mind to put jack in his place if he felt encroached on, i believe that this man has the potential to make a good pres, he just came @ the wrong time. like i said before, i believe in hartford and watson, i believe if these men are given the chance they could make the necessary change that is needed in football, but they just need ah break.
JC...if you hear from some of the players in the East zone, especially the Prisons football team, they will disagree with your breds opinion of Lennox Watson. Actually most people feel is because he was Jack's yes man...that is the reason he get the wuk. :-\
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Remember guys, Jack Warner is KING of Trinidad and Tobago and the faster you guys learn to accept this the easier your heart will burn you.
No money for the current TTFF until they resign and it will continue to be this way, I will personally make sure of this.
You see it took 5 years for the 2006 Soca Warriors to calm down, now the TTFF will have to go through the same fete, Jack will strangle them until they eventually break.
The Trinidad and Tobago team will face FIFA saction very soon. :devil:
Football in T&T will be dead and this site will soon follow as their will be nothing to write about or publish. Jack wins again and the funny thing is, he is not even in football anymore...!!!!
Just cool, a personal message for you, Jack is the smartest blackman you will ever meet.
Jack will rise again and the world will beg for him to come back and I hope he says NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plz explain to me how the death of football in this country makes Jack Warner a winner.
Ent, Men have real misguided goals. The man happy it have no football in the country and proud of it. Football doesn't belong to anyone
what do you expect when the poster is Jack himself (Directly or indirectly)! It just goes to show the selfishness of the man. Thief all the money and then party when the game dies and players suffer.
That eh no damn jack, that is either one of the many sick twisted posters on the board who's afraid to express how they truly feel, or @ best some one of jack's lap dogs, but definitely not jack warner, @ least i hope not, for jack's sake.
PS: this monkey only comes around to rile up the members and then vanishes into the night, like ah real chi-chi, he don't respond to no kind of collective reasoning, he comes , he sh!ts and then leaves it for us to clean up after.
do you know how many times i have put questions to this tree monkey and he in turn never responds, legitimate questions @ that, so simple that a fifth grader could understand it, and he is yet to responds.
allyuh doh waste yuhs time with this gimp, bc he's not into solutions, just antagonism and intimidation, but no solutions or productive discourse. i'm afraid he's just as dunce and fickle as his master.
BTW blatter is still waiting on this tsunami, could you imagine this dumbell went on record talking this dunce talk that could be seen all over the planet, what ah fackin embarrassment he iz. yeh jack would raise again, i which he raise the fack up out of T&T and leave we alone!
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In one sense the answer to this question isn't too difficult. But, in another it is. I eh want to muddy the waters or complicate the issue, but it's like a philosophical puzzle.
Is there a solution that "hurts" the TTFF but does not bring suffering to players (seniors or juniors)?
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In one sense the answer to this question isn't too difficult. But, in another it is. I eh want to muddy the waters or complicate the issue, but it's like a philosophical puzzle.
Is there a solution that "hurts" the TTFF but does not bring suffering to players (seniors or juniors)?
A hostile take-over ;D
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Ah mean, if a man donate $$$ to the cause (not a one-off but in terms of longer-term funding) ... he couldn't sensibly do so without wanting certain things or guarantees put in place ... and if iz ah one-man bankrolling de thing ... all that gives rise to is a substitute Jackula, ent?
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In the interim, I would rather fund players to go abroad to pursue opportunities/training than to put on a charade in national team colours under present arrangements.
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This is really not about football. Almost every aspect of this situation reflects some poor values that have crept into and infected our society since the 1960's-1970's.
Jack Warner's long, unopposed, and continuing reign as the head honcho of football is nothing more than 'Great Man' syndrome. When people are wayward, lazy and lack ambition they fall for the cult of personality epitomized by the likes of character's like Warner and his so called 'generosity'.
No football initiatives undertaken now will bear fruit. No amount of high calibre practice games, youth development, starboy coach, starboy players, caribbean cup, gold cup, world cup, youth world cup will change anything. The state of football is only a reflection of deeper underlying problems. The situation WILL continue to get worse until, and only until, these problems begin to be addressed.
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Horner...haul allyuh stinking greedy evil C#NTS...STRAIGHT TO HELL FOR ALLYUH
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The irony of it all is the pretext under which they refuse to fund the senior team, claiming football development or the lack thereof which that blame goes sorely on the previous president mr oliver camps and special adviser (back door president, AKA wizard of OZ, the unseen hand) jack warner, the same man who is now silent during this whole debacle.
why weren't they worried about development in late 2010 when they went and hire the german, or 7 months after when we had not played a solitary game in prep for WCQ?
king dese, i agree with you, but there are ppl who were never stooges to jack in the past admin, and according to my breddren who happens to know the present president very well, lennex watson was never a jack yes man, and he used to dog camps for being soft and not having the balls to stand up to jack.
yeh, though watson was a good friend of jack, he also had the strength of mind to put jack in his place if he felt encroached on, i believe that this man has the potential to make a good pres, he just came @ the wrong time. like i said before, i believe in hartford and watson, i believe if these men are given the chance they could make the necessary change that is needed in football, but they just need ah break.
JC...if you hear from some of the players in the East zone, especially the Prisons football team, they will disagree with your breds opinion of Lennox Watson. Actually most people feel is because he was Jack's yes man...that is the reason he get the wuk. :-\
Breds hear meh well, i not trying to paint a pretty picture of watson, as a matter fact there's nothing for me to gain in defending him.
but the fact remains, the only reason this sanctions is taking place is BC he formed an alliance with with hartford and put some distance between himself and jack, now if he is truly a "yesman" as you say, then he would still be in jack's good graces and we would not be having this conversation.
the fact that the man was willing to abandon jack's influence and swayed in the direction that is better for our football is testament that the man unlike camps has chosen an independent position.
yeh i know bout the zones and all the other power plays, and that was foul, but the way how things is with T&T football, i would rather take a life time of watson than a season of camps, after all, when yuh between the devil and the deep blue sea and choices are extremely limited, ah raft does look ah hell of ah lot better than ah floating log.
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The irony of it all is the pretext under which they refuse to fund the senior team, claiming football development or the lack thereof which that blame goes sorely on the previous president mr oliver camps and special adviser (back door president, AKA wizard of OZ, the unseen hand) jack warner, the same man who is now silent during this whole debacle.
why weren't they worried about development in late 2010 when they went and hire the german, or 7 months after when we had not played a solitary game in prep for WCQ?
king dese, i agree with you, but there are ppl who were never stooges to jack in the past admin, and according to my breddren who happens to know the present president very well, lennex watson was never a jack yes man, and he used to dog camps for being soft and not having the balls to stand up to jack.
yeh, though watson was a good friend of jack, he also had the strength of mind to put jack in his place if he felt encroached on, i believe that this man has the potential to make a good pres, he just came @ the wrong time. like i said before, i believe in hartford and watson, i believe if these men are given the chance they could make the necessary change that is needed in football, but they just need ah break.
JC...if you hear from some of the players in the East zone, especially the Prisons football team, they will disagree with your breds opinion of Lennox Watson. Actually most people feel is because he was Jack's yes man...that is the reason he get the wuk. :-\
Breds hear meh well, i not trying to paint a pretty picture of watson, as a matter fact there's nothing for me to gain in defending him.
but the fact remains, the only reason this sanctions is taking place is BC he formed an alliance with with hartford and put some distance between himself and jack, now if he is truly a "yesman" as you say, then he would still be in jack's good graces and we would not be having this conversation.
the fact that the man was willing to abandon jack's influence and swayed in the direction that is better for our football is testament that the man unlike camps has chosen an independent position.
yeh i know bout the zones and all the other power plays, and that was foul, but the way how things is with T&T football, i would rather take a life time of watson than a season of camps, after all, when yuh between the devil and the deep blue sea and choices are extremely limited, ah raft does look ah hell of ah lot better than ah floating log.
Me ent saying yea or nay...me ent even know the man. I just saying...PLENTY people would disagree with yuh breds opinion that is all. As I am sure a lot of people also agree with yuh breds opinion.
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Allyuh happy Jack gone now? I telling allyuh fellas this from long time , Nobody in the correct state of mind will take money out of his pocket and pay the government to rent the stadium so a national team can play and then dont get nothing in return for it.. Jack yu is di Don... ent allyuh want Jack leave well he goone and so is we football..... I eh worry I still have mi USA and Jamaica palying so I good to go..
war
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The irony of it all is the pretext under which they refuse to fund the senior team, claiming football development or the lack thereof which that blame goes sorely on the previous president mr oliver camps and special adviser (back door president, AKA wizard of OZ, the unseen hand) jack warner, the same man who is now silent during this whole debacle.
why weren't they worried about development in late 2010 when they went and hire the german, or 7 months after when we had not played a solitary game in prep for WCQ?
king dese, i agree with you, but there are ppl who were never stooges to jack in the past admin, and according to my breddren who happens to know the present president very well, lennex watson was never a jack yes man, and he used to dog camps for being soft and not having the balls to stand up to jack.
yeh, though watson was a good friend of jack, he also had the strength of mind to put jack in his place if he felt encroached on, i believe that this man has the potential to make a good pres, he just came @ the wrong time. like i said before, i believe in hartford and watson, i believe if these men are given the chance they could make the necessary change that is needed in football, but they just need ah break.
JC...if you hear from some of the players in the East zone, especially the Prisons football team, they will disagree with your breds opinion of Lennox Watson. Actually most people feel is because he was Jack's yes man...that is the reason he get the wuk. :-\
Watson IS a clown and love to keep people under his foot (and hand) literally.
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EVIL...FU#KING EVIL....STRAIGHT TO HELL
who willing to join me outside the Ministry of Sport on Monday to do a Protest ???
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who willing to join me outside the Ministry of Sport on Monday to do a Protest ???
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Allyuh happy Jack gone now? I telling allyuh fellas this from long time , Nobody in the correct state of mind will take money out of his pocket and pay the government to rent the stadium so a national team can play and then dont get nothing in return for it.. Jack yu is di Don... ent allyuh want Jack leave well he goone and so is we football..... I eh worry I still have mi USA and Jamaica palying so I good to go..
war
I was hoping that from your last post you would not be able to top your self, but i guess i was wrong. you never fail to disappoint with your blunt nonsensical statements.
i should not indulge you but i will say this, firstly, jack should not have cause to use his own money for football, every yr fifa gives every federation a stipend to operate.
apart from that, jack got the stadium @ a good rate i think was 10 %, after gate receipts, private sponsorship, TV rights, and every time there's qualifying the as long as yorke and latas present the stadium ram out!
i would say that jack made out very well, and looked forward to qualifying with optimistic anticipation. $$$$$ if you know what i mean. so if i payed 25, 000 to rent the stadium and for every dollar spend turned 1000 times the amount, why i would be first in line to rent the stadium with MY OWN MONEY check in hand licking my chops.
let me ask you this, have you ever considered where and how jack came into millions? when jack entered T&T football he was a school teacher, and we all know he didn't get rich on a school teacher's salary, but all of a sudden this man is rich beyond his wildest dream.
trinidad football was runned by jack like his own personal company, and until the time he was ousted from football, he was not yet done with T&T football. so save that dunce talk for babies! jack got rich from football, not the other way round, and for all the yrs he was there he never build one proper academy as the head of the TTFF, fack he!
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I think that someone would come to the rescue, we can't afford not to answer the bell. i believe hartford would be bussin his arse to find sponsorship, and some company (hopefully) would come along and save the day.
shame on you KAMLA!
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EVIL...FU#KING EVIL....STRAIGHT TO HELL
who willing to join me outside the Ministry of Sport on Monday to do a Protest ???
Monday would be too late magician, the game is on wednesday.
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who willing to join me outside the Ministry of Sport on Monday to do a Protest ???
BM, post of the year !!!!!
Come on fellas, join de fight.... man get quiet all of a sudden.
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Okay brothers. How can I donate? Lets start something so we can help the team.
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Flex,
you mean well but we dealing with individuals who have no shame. They (TTFF) NEED to understand financial support comes with competence and accountability not the Warner family financing incompetence and stupidity.
If we have to go through a short term hurt for a long term gain, so be it.
These btches have no shame, it will take a long time and a lot of effort to get them out.
I have been waiting about 12 years to get to this point, I eh going backwards now.
What hurts is that if they resign Anil go just put more Jack Warner puppies there but if we have to fight the good fight.
You realize is probably a quarter of a billion - at least - that these ppl have mishandled.
FOKK DEMM!!!!!!!!!! Let dem suffer.
VB
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Worse yet ah seeing ah story on Lasana's website that people dipping into their pockets to give money to the TTFF....fack dat shit!!! De TTFF??!! De one headed by the same Lennox Watson who tell mih ah cyar put up mih protest banners in de stadium?? De one who felt because he get a lil "position" he could threaten to put me and Weary out of the stadium??
Dat TTFF??!! That Lennox Watson??!!....ssssssttttteeeuuuppppsss!!! Not one red cent from my purse!! Dey could kiss my rear end!!!
Dey dig out mih eye for far too long. If this is what we have to go through for football to come back strong some years down the road....fine by me....
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Shaun Fuentes was on Sportsmax Zone this evening boasting they collected U$ 500.00 in donations today. ;D
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Shaun Fuentes was on Sportsmax Zone this evening boasting they collected U$ 500.00 in donations today. ;D
Yes I saw it lol
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Shaun Fuentes was on Sportsmax Zone this evening boasting they collected U$ 500.00 in donations today. ;D
Yes I saw it lol
Fuentes??!! Aye, aye....where Lennox?? Cat run away with his tongue?? Steups!!!
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Good work Flex, I've just donated one TT dollar to your cause.
That should pay for one head of lettuce from Anton.
These guys prefer to sell lettuce in the market for themselves than sell T&T shirts and tickets for the T&T team.
How can they beat Jack.
Nice one Flex, but T&T football will always suffer because the fans do not care.
Tha same fans that made yuh daddy a multimillionaire??
i wouldn't have mind if yuh was standing up for someone who cared, a man of integrity, but you braggin and boasting about an oppressor in the same mold of ah fella like mugabe, and mobutu sese seko.
jack warner stole from the poor to give to himself , just like khadafi, saddam, and perron, the man is ah fackin monster! if that's who you bigging up just bc he coulkd put some coins in your selfish pockets then that shows a lot about your character or lack thereof.
imagine after such an illustrious tournament as the world cup, you want to give the players for their match appearance fees $5,000 TTD each out of $188,000,000?? and when the boys showed their displeasure he had them blacklisted!! and to add insult, not one penny of that money was ever used on football, bc the govt payed and funded the 2007 gold cup, and the 2010 WCQ.
now tell me this thing 188,000,000 vanished and jack can't give an account for the money, and you have the unmitigated gaul to stand here and defend this crook, you piece of sh!t! you of all ppl should STFU for the rest of your natural life, as ah matter of fact, i don't know why flex eh bann you, bc you does only come here to rub salt in ppl's wounds yuh fackin john crow, be gone you and yuh fackin evil wicked father!
yeh jack will raise again, but that's on the day of judgement to answer to almighty GOD for all the wickedness he did to the ppl of trinidad and tobago!
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Flex i willing to put ah money , but i need to know that it would be used to help the players, after all, the players are the ones who will suffer, as the african proverb goes, "when two elephants fight , only the grass suffers". whatever i could do to help the boys i'm with it, but like i said, the money must reach the boys and not the TTFF coffers.
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who willing to join me outside the Ministry of Sport on Monday to do a Protest ???
Magician, this is no gimmick or kicks scene, yuh see if i was home, i would have definitely joined yuh, but these internet and TV football fans eh have no time with that, they will tell yuh how they have to go to work, like they eh have sick days or holidays on their work calender.
i wish yuh luck bc you will need it. i know for a fact that trinis have no spine, that is why jack did what he did for soooo long and no one dared checked him. the only man with influence and a voice that i see ever challenge jack is lasana and harford of lately, but no one else!
good luck soldier, i would have loved to have been there but just cool quite in america catching he nenen.
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BM u get Police permission. I really cyah c me gettin licks 4 d TTFF. Now 4 meh 06 warriors that is a different story.
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How about finding out the cost to do the tournament, like:
- Airfare (coach)
- Hotel (4 man to ah room- double bed)
- Transportation to field and hotel - (small maxi)
- Food (whatever that is)
No trimmings.
Then we can take that total and raise that monies and Flex. Tallman, and a couple others can buy the tickets and donate it to Harford (nothing for the TTFF), then contact a local and organize on which ever island the other logistics.
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How about finding out the cost to do the tournament, like:
- Airfare (coach)
- Hotel (4 man to ah room- double bed)
- Transportation to field and hotel - (small maxi)
- Food (whatever that is)
No trimmings.
Then we can take that total and raise that monies and Flex. Tallman, and a couple others can buy the tickets and donate it to Harford (nothing for the TTFF), then contact a local and organize on which ever island the other logistics.
??? ??? ???
That's ah good idea. finally yuh came up with something we can actually use.
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I would put money to help out, but only for U-17 football. But truthfully the best thing for football IMO will be to let this crisis run its course until such time as a new, viable and constitutionally sound organization can arise. This situation will continue for at least two more years, and more so if Jack retains power in government. Its not just his money....at every step he finds a way to maintain a position of power and leverage. But his political influence will decline if the PP looses the next election. However you can be sure he is already plotting some way to stay politically relevant to maintain his stranglehold on the game
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ent allyuh want Jack leave well he goone and so is we football.....
Bro, you can't be saying this on a level head. You definitely not smoking the weed of wisdom!
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I would put money to help out, but only for U-17 football. But truthfully the best thing for football IMO will be to let this crisis run its course until such time as a new, viable and constitutionally sound organization can arise. This situation will continue for at least two more years, and more so if Jack retains power in government. Its not just his money....at every step he finds a way to maintain a position of power and leverage. But his political influence will decline if the PP looses the next election. However you can be sure he is already plotting some way to stay politically relevant to maintain his stranglehold on the game
If? yuh mean when! they not getting reelected boss, dais it, dey dun! as for jack he will be an MP @ best bc i anticipate he will win his seat, trust meh, he's on his way down hoss, remember no man reign forever just check out former dictators, they does fall harder than the average schmo.
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I would put money to help out, but only for U-17 football. But truthfully the best thing for football IMO will be to let this crisis run its course until such time as a new, viable and constitutionally sound organization can arise. This situation will continue for at least two more years, and more so if Jack retains power in government. Its not just his money....at every step he finds a way to maintain a position of power and leverage. But his political influence will decline if the PP looses the next election. However you can be sure he is already plotting some way to stay politically relevant to maintain his stranglehold on the game
If? yuh mean when! they not getting reelected boss, dais it, dey dun! as for jack he will be an MP @ best bc i anticipate he will win his seat, trust meh, he's on his way down hoss, remember no man reign forever just check out former dictators, they does fall harder than the average schmo.
I could see jack angling for opposition leader, a big role in the MoS, or a senate seat at the very least. No way a man like that could be satisfied with being a simple MP. Plus Jack likely realizes he on borrowed time. The day he looses the political protection is the day all the former yes men will come crawling out of the woodwork with all manner of accusations and revelations.
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How about finding out the cost to do the tournament, like:
- Airfare (coach)
- Hotel (4 man to ah room- double bed)
- Transportation to field and hotel - (small maxi)
- Food (whatever that is)
No trimmings.
Then we can take that total and raise that monies and Flex. Tallman, and a couple others can buy the tickets and donate it to Harford (nothing for the TTFF), then contact a local and organize on which ever island the other logistics.
??? ??? ???
That's ah good idea. finally yuh came up with something we can actually use.
I support this model, but I'm with Zando on the age group thing ... U-17s especially.
Socawarriors.net as the kitchen cabinet TTFF. lol
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I say we overs...
Alyuh putting effort in a Govnt that doh give 2 shit about we, a Football federation that skin open we kakahole umpteen times and a bunch of players who doh give two arse neither.
Because some of them same players we going and fight up and sacrifice to give money to represent us... going and come and stroll on the field, not tackle, coast, point etc.
We are not a belley and badmind nation.
I woulda give money to see somebody like Birchall come and run he tail off for T&T...I not giving no money to see Keon Daniel coast on no field.
I rather we not go... as opposed to sending a half ass squad who go get licks from some small island side.
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I say we overs...
Alyuh putting effort in a Govnt that doh give 2 shit about we, a Football federation that skin open we kakahole umpteen times and a bunch of players who doh give two arse neither.
Because some of them same players we going and fight up and sacrifice to give money to represent us... going and come and stroll on the field, not tackle, coast, point etc.
We are not a belley and badmind nation.
I woulda give money to see somebody like Birchall come and run he tail off for T&T...I not giving no money to see Keon Daniel coast on no field.
I rather we not go... as opposed to sending a half ass squad who go get licks from some small island side.
I know how hard I does wuk for my loose change oui.
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I say we overs...
Alyuh putting effort in a Govnt that doh give 2 shit about we, a Football federation that skin open we kakahole umpteen times and a bunch of players who doh give two arse neither.
Because some of them same players we going and fight up and sacrifice to give money to represent us... going and come and stroll on the field, not tackle, coast, point etc.
We are not a belley and badmind nation.
I woulda give money to see somebody like Birchall come and run he tail off for T&T...I not giving no money to see Keon Daniel coast on no field.
I rather we not go... as opposed to sending a half ass squad who go get licks from some small island side.
I looking for the 'like' button ;D
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I say we overs...
Alyuh putting effort in a Govnt that doh give 2 shit about we, a Football federation that skin open we kakahole umpteen times and a bunch of players who doh give two arse neither.
Because some of them same players we going and fight up and sacrifice to give money to represent us... going and come and stroll on the field, not tackle, coast, point etc.
We are not a belley and badmind nation.
I woulda give money to see somebody like Birchall come and run he tail off for T&T...I not giving no money to see Keon Daniel coast on no field.
I rather we not go... as opposed to sending a half ass squad who go get licks from some small island side.
I expect better from you especially! this is the kind of mentality that got us here in the first place, "it's all about me!" your argument is real basic friend, though i agree with your assessment of some of the players, but there also are players who will run their arse off for the team, man like hector , roberts, james who would buss ah gut, and primus who is footing his own airfare according to the press, so why must they suffer bc there are one or two starboys on the team.
i know the TTFF don't deserve any assistance, but i believe the name "TTFF" have allyuh head tied in knots, which that TTFF no longer exist, the captain and crew who was running dat boat jumped ship dumping their problems behind for someone else to fix, leaving the non swimmers and the women and children to fend for themselves.
in all honesty, you can't blame harford and watson for this, and even though groden is still part of the make up, the TTFF is now under reconstruction.
if yuh don't want to contribute to the cause then fine, no body cyar vex wid yuh fuh dat, but doh discourage others who might want to contribute, but might be on the fence in this regard.
you also have to understand that certain members whether they believe it or not , their opinions carry a lot of weight, and you IMO happens to be one of them, so when ah man like you say such and such, there are ppl who will adhere bc they value your input, but i must say this time you are wrong for saying thus.
i say that "I" would put my few coins if the money is supervised and used towards the accommodation of the players and ensuring that some of the foreign based gets to play, bc i have no faith in an all local squad, we've tried that before and we saw where that got us.
why should the players stay in deplorable uncomfortable surrounding, who will that hurt, jack, camps or groden?? only the players, and on top of that ppl expect great results. like you forgetting guyana, where they stayed in ah roach motel, and as a result "maybe" that could have contributed to the bad result.
i say support if yuh want, and if yuh don't want to, then don't stand in the way of the members who wants too.
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Tallman, flex. i think what elan suggested was ah very good idea, @ least for the members who wants to help out. could you guys please decide what you want to do so that the members who want to help could have a way of doing so.
thanx. just cool.
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I'll look into it !!!....
The timing might be off though...
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I in dat i go donate sum money too.. let we do it to embarass the Trinidad and tobago government .. They f**kers have millions to gave d faggot machel, to girate like a woman but we cya pay we sports heroes.. I disguted right now people.. i rell facking mad here .. this shit is insulting to me and my country, we paying dat big fuker shaq millions to come lift up we PM and we eh have money to pay we football players . The f**kers dem using the guyana game as a reason why we eh paying we players.. Long before The Guyana game we palyers no get paid... I go bust f**king anil head when I see him.... He better hope mi nuh ketch him when mi under mi sensi and Mackenson...
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We always using the band aid method. If you do not deal with the problem the problem will deal with you.
Not to decide is in truth to decide. We use Jack to bail out the team for years with Camp as his accomplice. We kept Quiet because money talks and Jack saw and conquered. The PS from the ministry is right, these players and managers are wasting taxpayers money. Touches has a point , no commitment from the players . I saw it myself against Canada in Florida. Men coasting and the locals seemed not interested.
Well the Chinese will say every crisis is an opportunity. Let us see who would step up to the plate- TSTT- Digicel- Lottery board for this trip. Then elections for a new federation.
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I know I may get some stick for this, but I think we should all chip in and help the T&T senior team?
Truetrini did mention to me a while back about supporting the T&T Women U-17 team and I too was reluctant because of the people (some) in office, however, the buck needs to stop somewhere.
Again, I myself are not too happy with some of the current personnel there, but I say we give it one last ditch to see if things could change for the better. Hopefully the TTFF will get the message and try to stand on their two feet for future events and not rely on our Government (but that's a long story)....
Let us stand behind our team guys.
Regards.
I confused, can a national team be funded privately outside of the official footballing body of it's country?
Isn't there some odd FIFA bylaw that states everything (including money) has/ supposed to be sanctioned through official channels?
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I know I may get some stick for this, but I think we should all chip in and help the T&T senior team?
Truetrini did mention to me a while back about supporting the T&T Women U-17 team and I too was reluctant because of the people (some) in office, however, the buck needs to stop somewhere.
Again, I myself are not too happy with some of the current personnel there, but I say we give it one last ditch to see if things could change for the better. Hopefully the TTFF will get the message and try to stand on their two feet for future events and not rely on our Government (but that's a long story)....
Let us stand behind our team guys.
Regards.
I confused, can a national team be funded privately outside of the official footballing body of it's country?
Isn't there some odd FIFA bylaw that states everything (including money) has supposed to be sanctioned through official channels?
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Yes it can ,Haiti team was sponsored by haitian Buisness men in Florida for many years..
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I think that someone would come to the rescue, we can't afford not to answer the bell. i believe hartford would be bussin his arse to find sponsorship, and some company (hopefully) would come along and save the day.
shame on you KAMLA!
Ah guess Kamla pull through at the last minute then?