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Title: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Insider on January 11, 2013, 09:19:40 AM
I heard this from a close friend yesterday that both Jack Warner sons was arrested for money laundering, tax invasion and fraud. The FBI got them.

They got arrested in the US and the bigger son (Daryan ?) is still in jail, the smaller one is out but they seized his passport.

A while now this happended but they trying to keerp things low.

I only heard this, ok guys.

More to come.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: sammy on January 11, 2013, 09:41:51 AM
seems that something like this woulda make some kinda world sports news?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sando on January 11, 2013, 11:11:22 AM
Hhmmmm interesting....

Not sure if this is true because by now the news would have made headlines.

Maybe someone in T&T could investigate.

Callin Lasana.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on January 11, 2013, 11:51:52 AM
Interesting
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on January 11, 2013, 12:07:53 PM
Apperently this story goin around 4 a while but unable to confirm.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on January 11, 2013, 12:19:50 PM
It helps solve one puzzle: with them in jail and Jack busy, it helps to narrow Jack Horner's identity.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on January 11, 2013, 12:24:35 PM
It helps solve one puzzle: with them in jail and Jack busy, it helps to narrow Jack Horner's identity.

Coops, that's my first suspect
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on January 11, 2013, 12:39:35 PM
Jack has three sons.

I assume it's the first two Insider is talking about.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on January 11, 2013, 12:49:31 PM
Insider says this has happened "a while now." Hard to believe that if this is true, we don't know.

A guy called Jason Ralph Warner was arrested in Oct. for money laundering but he is more or less white.

http://www.jailbase.com/en/arrested/az-mcso/2012-10-04/jason-ralph-warner-p909737
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bitter on January 11, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
Insider says this has happened "a while now." Hard to believe that if this is true, we don't know.

A guy called Jason Ralph Warner was arrested in Oct. for money laundering but he is more or less white.

http://www.jailbase.com/en/arrested/az-mcso/2012-10-04/jason-ralph-warner-p909737


You doh find he resemble Jack?

(http://images.jailbase.com/arrested/az-mcso/2012-10-04/jason-ralph-warner-p909737.pic1.jpg)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on January 11, 2013, 12:57:42 PM
Jack has three sons.

I assume it's the first two Insider is talking about.

VB

Come nah man, VB.

Is the third son, Phillip?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: elan on January 11, 2013, 01:30:10 PM
Jack has three sons.

I assume it's the first two Insider is talking about.

VB

Come nah man, VB.

Is the third son, Phillip?

Jamal
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on January 11, 2013, 01:31:13 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 11, 2013, 02:59:38 PM
I heard thios about 2 weeks ago.  Supposed to have happened in Miami and the rumor had it that Daryan was the one arrested.  Ruor stated his mother had to travel tot eh US and get a lwter to let him go.

The report said money laundering, but the same report said he was detained with 100,000 US without declaring it to customs as he was leaving.

Daryan Warner called the episode "fiction."
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on January 11, 2013, 03:15:06 PM
You would think he would travel with $40K bundles instead.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: elan on January 11, 2013, 03:49:41 PM
Oh where, Oh where
Has Jack.......Hor-ner gone
Oh where, oh where
can he be
with his hummer so long............
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on January 11, 2013, 04:31:54 PM
I heard thios about 2 weeks ago.  Supposed to have happened in Miami and the rumor had it that Daryan was the one arrested.  Ruor stated his mother had to travel tot eh US and get a lwter to let him go.

The report said money laundering, but the same report said he was detained with 100,000 US without declaring it to customs as he was leaving.

Daryan Warner called the episode "fiction."

As I told you back then... I am very skeptical of the 'report', for a number of reasons.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on January 11, 2013, 04:58:03 PM
... I figured you would have verified already.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on January 11, 2013, 05:34:36 PM
... I figured you would have verified already.

Haven't really verified one way or another, incident allegedly took place at Miami International and I don't have any DHS contacts or law enforcement contacts down there to verify, but the situation as described to me then was essentially a failure to declare kinda deal not a violation of MLA laws.  Neither of those would be the kind of offense where someone would have to be bailed out, let alone jailed until somebody could fly up from Trinidad to post bond deal... as is being alleged.  Sounds indeed like 'fiction'.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on January 11, 2013, 06:15:22 PM
... see 31 U.S.C. 5332.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on January 11, 2013, 08:06:59 PM
... see 31 U.S.C. 5332.

Yes, as I said... "a failure to declare". 
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 11, 2013, 08:53:49 PM
I heard thios about 2 weeks ago.  Supposed to have happened in Miami and the rumor had it that Daryan was the one arrested.  Ruor stated his mother had to travel tot eh US and get a lwter to let him go.

The report said money laundering, but the same report said he was detained with 100,000 US without declaring it to customs as he was leaving.

Daryan Warner called the episode "fiction."

As I told you back then... I am very skeptical of the 'report', for a number of reasons.

And that is why I did not make a thread with the "zeppo."
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 12, 2013, 04:36:44 PM
(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/truetrini/mirror_zps4e6b5e47.jpg)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on January 12, 2013, 05:08:52 PM
Oh is in Trinidad this happen... never mind then.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on January 12, 2013, 05:25:48 PM
So he off scot free.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on January 12, 2013, 05:40:09 PM
Oh is in Trinidad this happen... never mind then.

 :rotfl: :rotfl: Ent!  :rotfl: definite foregone conclusion
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Peong on January 12, 2013, 06:41:23 PM
So who is de Indian ting in the picture?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on January 12, 2013, 07:56:21 PM
 :devil:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: congo on January 12, 2013, 08:18:43 PM
So who is de Indian ting in the picture?

And I want to know who is that holding the fish.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 12, 2013, 08:29:57 PM
So who is de Indian ting in the picture?

And I want to know who is that holding the fish.

hey..hey...keep your sardine in yuh pants breds.

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/truetrini/antiguafishingtrip2-1_zps029890ef.jpg)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on January 12, 2013, 09:36:27 PM
She almost look like de runny nose ting from de casino  ;D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 12, 2013, 09:53:42 PM
She almost look like de runny nose ting from de casino  ;D

steups not even fricking close.   Besides dat ting with de fresh cold was after your ass....
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: congo on January 13, 2013, 12:33:41 AM

And I want to know who is that holding the fish.

hey..hey...keep your sardine in yuh pants breds.

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/truetrini/antiguafishingtrip2-1_zps029890ef.jpg)

Nah but on a real though. Who is this beauty? Family?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 13, 2013, 12:56:41 AM
She is not a good fisher-woman.   She is not family.  Too much family does make wife scarce.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: congo on January 13, 2013, 01:17:41 AM
Hmmmmm...Either way I fishing in the wrong waters. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: g on January 13, 2013, 02:44:47 AM
Based on the initial story, that talk circulating around locally as well and Senior Warner not taking it well at all.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on January 13, 2013, 07:29:38 AM
If those fellas weren't arrested, then the title of the post should be changed, it's misleading.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on January 13, 2013, 08:49:47 AM
... at the time it was speculation.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on January 13, 2013, 08:56:40 AM

And I want to know who is that holding the fish.

hey..hey...keep your sardine in yuh pants breds.

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/truetrini/antiguafishingtrip2-1_zps029890ef.jpg)

Nah but on a real though. Who is this beauty? Family?

Congo, wham? Yuh on a tusty mission? :)

‘I envy the Congo man
Ah wish I coulda go and shake he hand
You all know how much traps I set?
Until I sweat!
But I never eat a white meat yet’
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Deeks on January 13, 2013, 12:00:16 PM
I was going to post earlier but I felt that it was just macco talk. We still eh sure is Jack son. But like Bakes said, since it happened in TT, forget it ever happened. If it is really Jack's son, he probably getting a real toungue lashing, if that will do anything. But I will tell all PNM affiliated people, do not expect that same treatment by the customs if one of your own is caught in that type of monkey pants.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: King Deese on January 13, 2013, 10:31:06 PM
Aye, said Jackarse to he sons and dem while tapping one upside he head, yuh stupid or wat, don't do wat eye do but do wat eye say, go asss yuh mudda if yuh dunno wat eye talking bout. Yuh stupid ah wat.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 14, 2013, 02:53:37 PM
I feel this is all shit talk.  This woulda be all over the press if true.  Rumor reach the mirror, originally story ahd him stopped and detained with 100K in Miami and the mother having to fly to get attorney help.

The amn himself said is fiction!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on January 14, 2013, 02:56:11 PM
The most interesting thing in this whole thread is de ting in TT signature, she look like she well know how to handle pole lol
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 14, 2013, 02:58:11 PM
steups.  Yuh too damn nasty.   Thing is she cyar fish one little bit...she holding de pole like is a tommy gun  lol


Welcome to Florida.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Football supporter on January 14, 2013, 04:24:10 PM
A wise man once said....

"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day
Give a man a fishing pole and.....

he'll use it to take soft porn photos and live like a king"
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 14, 2013, 04:30:42 PM
lol....not soft porn at all.   

Just teaching a woman to fish...for that she needs a pole.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Football supporter on January 14, 2013, 05:22:14 PM
lol....not soft porn at all.   

Just teaching a woman to fish...for that she needs a pole.

I see. Well, education is a positive thing, so keep teaching, bro!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on January 14, 2013, 05:35:35 PM
steups.  Yuh too damn nasty.   Thing is she cyar fish one little bit...she holding de pole like is a tommy gun  lol


Welcome to Florida.

So yuh teaching she how to handle de rod then?  Nice, nice...
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 14, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
steups.  Yuh too damn nasty.   Thing is she cyar fish one little bit...she holding de pole like is a tommy gun  lol


Welcome to Florida.

So yuh teaching she how to handle de rod then?  Nice, nice...

she has a habit of moving her hand rapidly in a perpendicular motion when she is handling the pole.

Not good for fishing, but ....she makes my love come in spurts.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on January 14, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
she has a habit of moving her hand rapidly in a perpendicular motion when he is handling the pole.

Not good for fishing, but ....she makes my love come in spurts.


Ah hear de runny nose ting is ah pro wid de pole now... ketching all kinda wahoo and sailfish and ting.  Yuh teach she well  ;D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 14, 2013, 05:41:05 PM
she has a habit of moving her hand rapidly in a perpendicular motion when she is handling the pole.

Not good for fishing, but ....she makes my love come in spurts.


Ah hear de runny nose ting is ah pro wid de pole now... ketching all kinda wahoo and sailfish and ting.  Yuh teach she well  ;D

Yuh is ah damn liar, you well know..wha is she name??  Oh yeah is  Natalie... is your ting..she and she damn snatty nose.  How de panty hose store going?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on January 14, 2013, 06:20:49 PM
Yuh is ah damn liar, you well know..wha is she name??  Oh yeah is  Natalie... is your ting..she and she damn snatty nose.  How de panty hose store going?

Well look if yuh didn't mention it ah wouldn'a know she name lol
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 14, 2013, 06:25:37 PM
Yuh is ah damn liar, you well know..wha is she name??  Oh yeah is  Natalie... is your ting..she and she damn snatty nose.  How de panty hose store going?

Well look if yuh didn't mention it ah wouldn'a know she name lol

steups ...lol
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on January 14, 2013, 06:31:11 PM
eh bakes\tt sc go take yuh meds, yuh havin one ah yuh MPD episodes again :D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sam on January 14, 2013, 08:07:59 PM
TT, that ting look good boy, we have to link up.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 14, 2013, 08:51:50 PM
TT, that ting look good boy, we have to link up.



Nah is ok.  I sharing she with Anton arready.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: congo on January 14, 2013, 11:53:30 PM
She on like corn. The type of woman I deserve. :D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 15, 2013, 12:15:37 AM
She on like corn. The type of woman I deserve. :D

This is your style? 

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/truetrini/antiguafishing4_zpse4960b8b.jpg)

And here I was thinking she was more my style..we have similar tastes congo?

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/truetrini/fly-girls-fishing-119_zps2df24d47.jpg)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 15, 2013, 12:25:37 AM
She on like corn. The type of woman I deserve. :D

This is your style? 

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/truetrini/antiguafishing4_zpse4960b8b.jpg)

And here I was thinking she was more my style..we have similar tastes congo?

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/truetrini/fly-girls-fishing-119_zps2df24d47.jpg)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: congo on January 15, 2013, 12:49:43 AM
Wayssssss, I want.

Now all those poses she doing really have me wondering whether you have a secret or side job. Mr Director X.

I find she have a slight resemblance to the actress Julie Bowen. Laad knows I love that Milf.

Keep posting pic man.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on January 15, 2013, 01:09:02 AM
So this thread really end up just being a waste of time eh.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 15, 2013, 02:16:18 AM
She on like corn. The type of woman I deserve. :D

This is your style? 

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/truetrini/antiguafishing4_zpse4960b8b.jpg)

And here I was thinking she was more my style..we have similar tastes congo?

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/truetrini/fly-girls-fishing-119_zps2df24d47.jpg)

http://www.yakangler.com/blogs/monday-pin-ups/item/57-grouper-digging
http://www.anothersite.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/girls_gone_fishing_21-610x851.jpg
http://www.wondermouse.com/category/girls/fishing-girls
http://thepostmonkey.com/2012/05/prestige-worldwide-doesnt-compare-to-the-post-monkeys-boats-n-hoes-24-pictures/
http://www.holytaco.com/25-hot-chicks-fishing/


why yuh go an f**k up my scene breds..I had nuff man going  pm'ing me etc. steups
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on January 15, 2013, 04:34:07 AM
She on like corn. The type of woman I deserve. :D

This is your style? 

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/truetrini/antiguafishing4_zpse4960b8b.jpg)

And here I was thinking she was more my style..we have similar tastes congo?

(http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/truetrini/fly-girls-fishing-119_zps2df24d47.jpg)

http://www.yakangler.com/blogs/monday-pin-ups/item/57-grouper-digging
http://www.anothersite.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/girls_gone_fishing_21-610x851.jpg
http://www.wondermouse.com/category/girls/fishing-girls
http://thepostmonkey.com/2012/05/prestige-worldwide-doesnt-compare-to-the-post-monkeys-boats-n-hoes-24-pictures/
http://www.holytaco.com/25-hot-chicks-fishing/

Oooohhh gaddooooo!!! ryan allyuh wicked boy!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

man files buss like ah plastic ball! it's months now this fella taking credit under fraud!

TT allyuh good yes, always trying tuh be the man. from now on i have to watch fellas on here with the things they say and do. one setta posers on this site who not in jack didley and faking the funk! :pissedoff:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on January 15, 2013, 05:26:42 AM
Alyuh believe that shit TT was on lol? It was entertaining though. Till Ryan come.....
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: FF on January 15, 2013, 06:53:52 AM
I make it out from the first pic he post during the caribbean cup, but de ting look good, so i ent bother to spoil de fun.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sam on January 15, 2013, 07:42:31 AM
Good one Ryan, de f**ker thing he alone is FBi on de board....

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 15, 2013, 08:48:14 AM
Steups.   Looking at the pics yuh could see is models..one was a f**king well known super model dim wit.

As for fbi..ass talk.

A simple google photo search is all.

Howw de f**k you feel I get the last pic?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: congo on January 15, 2013, 08:49:45 AM
There goes the fantasy. Now that she appears "professional' she doesn't seem as enticing as before. :bs:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: soccerman on January 15, 2013, 02:40:10 PM
There goes the fantasy. Now that she appears "professional' she doesn't seem as enticing as before. :bs:
Hardluck dey dread eventhough yuh act real tusty we ain go judge yuh fuh salivating over de thread ;D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: congo on January 15, 2013, 04:08:19 PM
Alluh eh know nah. It take all of the little bit of self respect that I have left to not send him a pm making further enquiries.. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on January 15, 2013, 04:13:43 PM
Unless TT is a professional photographer I wasn't falling for it. But she look good i cah lie :)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on January 15, 2013, 04:17:30 PM
Steups.   Looking at the pics yuh could see is models..one was a f**king well known super model dim wit.

As for fbi..ass talk.

A simple google photo search is all.

Howw de f**k you feel I get the last pic?
Don't use the get out of jail card now mdfkr! yuh got gat and that's all to it! just admit yuh was on fraud and move on, after all, no one will remember this a month from now.  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: kaliman2006 on January 15, 2013, 04:39:20 PM
So this thread really end up just being a waste of time eh.

VB

Who cares about Jack Warner's family when there are photos to be debated?

 :devil:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Football supporter on January 15, 2013, 04:40:53 PM
So this thread really end up just being a waste of time eh.

VB

Who cares about Jack Warner's family when there are photos to be debated?

 :devil:

So many guys get excited about this, I would describe it as a mass debate  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on January 15, 2013, 04:43:50 PM
Steups.   Looking at the pics yuh could see is models..one was a f**king well known super model dim wit.

As for fbi..ass talk.

A simple google photo search is all.

Howw de f**k you feel I get the last pic?
Don't use the get out of jail card now mdfkr! yuh got gat and that's all to it! just admit yuh was on fraud and move on, after all, no one will remember this a month from now.  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Never a dull moment. :)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Deeks on January 15, 2013, 06:41:27 PM
Is she LoLo Jones sister? Why she hi-jacked we thread so. Stupid question.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Insider on January 22, 2013, 05:29:39 PM
Ok, I got some confirmation on the situation.

Jack elder son has been arrested in Miami for quite some time now and is still in jail.

I thinks its either for fraud or money laundering.

Is younger son is in T&T free (for now)?.

The info Truetrini posted was probably someone else or another incident ?

This one is different as he got arrested in Miami.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: dreamer on January 22, 2013, 05:40:20 PM
Ok, I got some confirmation on the situation.

Jack elder son has been arrested in Miami for quite some time now and is still in jail.

I thinks its either for fraud or money laundering.

Is younger son is in T&T free (for now)?.

The info Truetrini posted was probably someone else or another incident ?

This one is different as he got arrested in Miami.



Good stuff. Calling on independent journalists in T&T other than Lasana, they need to get their act together and get this story reported as a big selling expose', get on the phone and go off to Miami if necessary and get the juicy scoops. Jackulito's days are probably numbered as the FBi already on to his case. Horner/ Coops' say something.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on January 22, 2013, 05:49:11 PM
Ok, I got some confirmation on the situation.

Jack elder son has been arrested in Miami for quite some time now and is still in jail.

I thinks its either for fraud or money laundering.

Is younger son is in T&T free (for now)?.

The info Truetrini posted was probably someone else or another incident ?

This one is different as he got arrested in Miami.



If this is true, the Govt. has done a helluva job keeping it undercover.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on January 22, 2013, 06:03:07 PM
Ok, I got some confirmation on the situation.

Jack elder son has been arrested in Miami for quite some time now and is still in jail.

I thinks its either for fraud or money laundering.

Is younger son is in T&T free (for now)?.

The info Truetrini posted was probably someone else or another incident ?

This one is different as he got arrested in Miami.



This is some juicy news if confirmed by the news outlets locally
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on January 22, 2013, 07:05:34 PM
Neither name shows in the database.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on January 23, 2013, 06:22:00 AM
Neither name shows in the database.

All I want to know is when last somebody see Daryan Warner walking d dog, running round d savannah, whining low in a fete?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: g on January 24, 2013, 12:56:02 PM
Jack as security minister in charge of the local security intelligence framework. He probably know all who talking about it in the various media houses. Hell he probably know we talking about it here too.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 24, 2013, 02:27:45 PM
Daryan not in any jail.  He right they in T&T I was reliably informed.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on January 24, 2013, 10:28:28 PM
Well the last activity on Daryan's FB profile page was before Dec. 8, so take that for what you will.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on January 25, 2013, 02:14:40 AM
Well the last activity on Daryan's FB profile page was before Dec. 8, so take that for what you will.

VB

well spoke to someone in T&T an dhe insists that Jack travelled last december to miami and that Daryan is NOT in T&T!

However I know someone who spoke to him and he described the entire episode as fiction...who the f**k really knows???
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on January 27, 2013, 10:00:32 PM
This morning i was listening to i95FM, jenny x PSA President was asking how come the daily media never printed anything about the high ranking Minister in the Government son who was arrested by the IRS in the USA, and how come the Minister did not go to the USA to his son assistance .
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on February 20, 2013, 09:54:55 PM
PNM abroad on FB had this to say:



Just as we broke to you first before anyone else Daryan Warner is in fact in jail after having been sought by the New York District Attorney's Office. Daryan was caught in the departure lounge of the Piarco International Airport with US$100,000.00 in cash. Customs in T&T had stopped him and asked him to declare he sought the assistance of a minister who called and directed customs to allow him to leave. US Customs was then informed and they held both boys Daryan and Daryl for money laundering. Daryl has since been released but Daryan remains in jail and they have slapped him with a deal.

It's either he testifies against his father Jack Warner over his Fifa Bribery and Corruption involving Millions of US Dollars in Currency or he goes directly to jail facing 20+ years in prison or its either he says nothing and both he and jack Warner end up in a US Jail. Kamla is being pressured to get rid of Jack Warner by the US Govt but she is in a predicament because he holds serious information against the govt and ministers and can destroy her regime. There's a reason JW didn't go to the CARICOM meeting because the US Attorney General was there. You know Jack and the US AG can never be in the same place.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on February 20, 2013, 09:55:33 PM
I don't understand how he could "say nothing," and both he and Jack go go to jail.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on February 20, 2013, 10:04:04 PM
It's either he testifies against his father Jack Warner over his Fifa Bribery and Corruption involving Millions of US Dollars in Currency or he goes directly to jail facing 20+ years in prison or its either he says nothing and both he and jack Warner end up in a US Jail. Kamla is being pressured to get rid of Jack Warner by the US Govt but she is in a predicament because he holds serious information against the govt and ministers and can destroy her regime. There's a reason JW didn't go to the CARICOM meeting because the US Attorney General was there. You know Jack and the US AG can never be in the same place.

 :drool: ah dribbling over this info
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on February 20, 2013, 10:53:07 PM
It's either he testifies against his father Jack Warner over his Fifa Bribery and Corruption involving Millions of US Dollars in Currency or he goes directly to jail facing 20+ years in prison or its either he says nothing and both he and jack Warner end up in a US Jail. Kamla is being pressured to get rid of Jack Warner by the US Govt but she is in a predicament because he holds serious information against the govt and ministers and can destroy her regime. There's a reason JW didn't go to the CARICOM meeting because the US Attorney General was there. You know Jack and the US AG can never be in the same place.

 :drool: ah dribbling over this info

I eh go lie, I was kinda dribbling too. JW overdue for this.

However, I was in the same yr. as Daryan. We were no friends and barely spoke to each other but I find myself feeling sorry for him. - 25 yrs.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: dreamer on February 20, 2013, 10:56:04 PM
Evil could jump and wine in front yuh face only for so long.
May they all rot in one hell..uva place.  :pissedoff: :pissedoff:
Sancho, Jack, Kenwyn, Stern and posse, ... apply legal pressure now and hit while de iron hot. No compromisin' while yuh smellin' blood.
Coop's put in a reference / testimonial fuh Jackulito and de boys nah man. Jackulito will rise.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: King Deese on February 20, 2013, 11:11:03 PM
They say "the fruit does not fall far from the tree". Nuff said.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on February 20, 2013, 11:28:57 PM
That has to be bullshit...Warner is internationally known the press would have been all over that story.  As well as the fact there is no record of him before and county state or federal court and no rcord of his arrest....maybe I eh search properly
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on February 21, 2013, 12:19:07 AM
PNM abroad on FB had this to say:



Just as we broke to you first before anyone else Daryan Warner is in fact in jail after having been sought by the New York District Attorney's Office. Daryan was caught in the departure lounge of the Piarco International Airport with US$100,000.00 in cash. Customs in T&T had stopped him and asked him to declare he sought the assistance of a minister who called and directed customs to allow him to leave. US Customs was then informed and they held both boys Daryan and Daryl for money laundering. Daryl has since been released but Daryan remains in jail and they have slapped him with a deal.

It's either he testifies against his father Jack Warner over his Fifa Bribery and Corruption involving Millions of US Dollars in Currency or he goes directly to jail facing 20+ years in prison or its either he says nothing and both he and jack Warner end up in a US Jail. Kamla is being pressured to get rid of Jack Warner by the US Govt but she is in a predicament because he holds serious information against the govt and ministers and can destroy her regime. There's a reason JW didn't go to the CARICOM meeting because the US Attorney General was there. You know Jack and the US AG can never be in the same place.

PNM Abroad need to do better than to post that gossipy bullshit.  Very little about this account makes sense.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on February 21, 2013, 12:24:09 AM
What I find very strange is that nobody verifying that they have seen Daryan in the last two months.

The story leaked a few weeks ago practically shouted that it was the Warner family and not a peep from them.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on February 21, 2013, 01:01:17 AM
What I find very strange is that nobody verifying that they have seen Daryan in the last two months.

The story leaked a few weeks ago practically shouted that it was the Warner family and not a peep from them.

VB

Steups... anybody was verifying that they see him before the story break?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Michael-j on February 21, 2013, 04:33:50 AM
What I find very strange is that nobody verifying that they have seen Daryan in the last two months.

The story leaked a few weeks ago practically shouted that it was the Warner family and not a peep from them.

VB

Jack said on news last night that neither of his sons is in custody and he dared the media houses to print/broadcast  any statements to the contrary.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: fishs on February 21, 2013, 05:08:22 AM

 Allyuh really think if this was true all kinda bacchanal would not have been breaking out in Trinidad ?

 Some radio stations woulda be all over this like bara wrapping channa.


Also on a side note why would they carry 100k US to the US for money laundering when they could wash the money easier in TT ?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on February 21, 2013, 05:18:14 AM
PNM abroad on FB had this to say:



Just as we broke to you first before anyone else Daryan Warner is in fact in jail after having been sought by the New York District Attorney's Office. Daryan was caught in the departure lounge of the Piarco International Airport with US$100,000.00 in cash. Customs in T&T had stopped him and asked him to declare he sought the assistance of a minister who called and directed customs to allow him to leave. US Customs was then informed and they held both boys Daryan and Daryl for money laundering. Daryl has since been released but Daryan remains in jail and they have slapped him with a deal.

It's either he testifies against his father Jack Warner over his Fifa Bribery and Corruption involving Millions of US Dollars in Currency or he goes directly to jail facing 20+ years in prison or its either he says nothing and both he and jack Warner end up in a US Jail. Kamla is being pressured to get rid of Jack Warner by the US Govt but she is in a predicament because he holds serious information against the govt and ministers and can destroy her regime. There's a reason JW didn't go to the CARICOM meeting because the US Attorney General was there. You know Jack and the US AG can never be in the same place.

PNM Abroad need to do better than to post that gossipy bullshit.  Very little about this account makes sense.

All I will say on this is, and I eh no fan of PNM Abroad (tooooo sycophantish), but ah feel they wouldn't say something like this if they didn't have some kind of information. 

And there is always the old adage, where there is smoke, there is fire......so far ah feel this is the crux of the thing;

Jack's two sons went to the US.  One or both of them were at least questioned.  At the very least, they got mixed up in some story with the US authorities.  Money involved.   Then the rumours started.......



Allyuh really think if this was true all kinda bacchanal would not have been breaking out in Trinidad ?
Some radio stations woulda be all over this like bara wrapping channa.


Also on a side note why would they carry 100k US to the US for money laundering when they could wash the money easier in TT ?

Hoss, all dem media houses fraid Jack.   Dey eh want to get uninvited to his next media bash......dais why yuh eh goh hear nutten.  But I eh worried all will be revealed in the fullness of time because something happened......
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: dreamer on February 21, 2013, 06:43:03 AM
Folks, the story that a certain son of a certain high ranking minister is in US jail is slam dunk accurate and verified. With a few clicks you can prove it yourself. Nothing more to say.
Everybody seemingly keeping quiet till more traps are set for those in denial.
This will be news of the decade in T&T when it finally buss open formally.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on February 21, 2013, 07:27:41 AM
PNM abroad on FB had this to say:

Just as we broke to you first before anyone else Daryan Warner is in fact in jail after having been sought by the New York District Attorney's Office. Daryan was caught in the departure lounge of the Piarco International Airport with US$100,000.00 in cash. Customs in T&T had stopped him and asked him to declare he sought the assistance of a minister who called and directed customs to allow him to leave. US Customs was then informed and they held both boys Daryan and Daryl for money laundering. Daryl has since been released but Daryan remains in jail and they have slapped him with a deal.

It's either he testifies against his father Jack Warner over his Fifa Bribery and Corruption involving Millions of US Dollars in Currency or he goes directly to jail facing 20+ years in prison or its either he says nothing and both he and jack Warner end up in a US Jail. Kamla is being pressured to get rid of Jack Warner by the US Govt but she is in a predicament because he holds serious information against the govt and ministers and can destroy her regime. There's a reason JW didn't go to the CARICOM meeting because the US Attorney General was there. You know Jack and the US AG can never be in the same place.

PNM Abroad need to do better than to post that gossipy bullshit.  Very little about this account makes sense.

Kamla doesn't have a "regime". Also independent of any individual liabilities of PP personalities, this administration is on its way out regardless of this situation.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Richard G. on February 21, 2013, 07:38:57 AM
Hmmm...sounds like this gov't will have more than some questions to answer.

Will be staying tuned.

Blessings and enjoy the day.
Richard G.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on February 21, 2013, 08:16:05 AM
Folks, the story that a certain son of a certain high ranking minister is in US jail is slam dunk accurate and verified. With a few clicks you can prove it yourself. Nothing more to say.
Everybody seemingly keeping quiet till more traps are set for those in denial.
This will be news of the decade in T&T when it finally buss open formally.

even given this:  :-\
Jack said on news last night that neither of his sons is in custody and he dared the media houses to print/broadcast  any statements to the contrary.

would like it to be true, but given d lack of excitement...for want of a better word..........I will reserve my reaction until it concrete and out dey for all d world to see
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: ANC2 on February 21, 2013, 08:23:03 AM
What I find very strange is that nobody verifying that they have seen Daryan in the last two months.

The story leaked a few weeks ago practically shouted that it was the Warner family and not a peep from them.

VB

Jack said on news last night that neither of his sons is in custody and he dared the media houses to print/broadcast  any statements to the contrary.

When was the last time we have seen any investigative journalism in Trinidad. Media in TT using Google, no leg work and research what so ever.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on February 21, 2013, 08:41:56 AM
Good defense is a good offense. JW tactics always
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Deeks on February 21, 2013, 09:20:35 AM
Allyuh know how I feel about Jack. I have no grudges against his sons. They did not screw up TT football. But, they made their beds, they go sleep on it. I am yet to be convinced this is true. I want solid proof. So for now, I will reserve comments.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bourbon on February 21, 2013, 10:29:29 AM
Let wait and see.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on February 21, 2013, 11:06:43 AM
How does failure to declare equate to money laundering ?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Daft Trini on February 21, 2013, 11:08:56 AM
How does failure to declare equate to money laundering ?

 or who walks into one of the busiest airports in America with that kind of money?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on February 21, 2013, 11:09:17 AM
Let wait and see.

As we have been my only issue wit the story is that u do not interact with customs on yuh way out of TNT. I ask d ? again anybody see him walking his dog, jogging round d savannah or goin 4 ash on ash wed?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on February 21, 2013, 11:48:25 AM
Is either he dead, sick or in Jail. Where him? Why doesn't he come out and say look i hear? Nobody cah find him. Let him put this nonsense to rest
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Tenorsaw on February 21, 2013, 11:48:55 AM
Bakes, way yuh?  Come run the trail and verify whether these men were in fact arrested. 
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Mose on February 21, 2013, 11:58:05 AM
Let wait and see.

As we have been my only issue wit the story is that u do not interact with customs on yuh way out of TNT. I ask d ? again anybody see him walking his dog, jogging round d savannah or goin 4 ash on ash wed?

Hold on dey. Friend of mine just come back from Carnival last night and tell me dat customs in Piarco take away 2 ah she bottles of Puncheon right dey in de airport.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on February 21, 2013, 12:25:07 PM
Let wait and see.

As we have been my only issue wit the story is that u do not interact with customs on yuh way out of TNT. I ask d ? again anybody see him walking his dog, jogging round d savannah or goin 4 ash on ash wed?

Hold on dey. Friend of mine just come back from Carnival last night and tell me dat customs in Piarco take away 2 ah she bottles of Puncheon right dey in de airport.

That was Airports Authority not customs.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on February 21, 2013, 12:27:23 PM
How does failure to declare equate to money laundering ?

This is the first clue that the story is nonsense. 
The second clue is the fact that if this person was held in the US, the maximum time he facing is 5 years (absent aggravating factors)... not no 25 years.
The third clue is the overall mauvai langue tone of the posting

Dreamer say it verifiable with a few clicks so I waiting fuh him to provide verification... or in the least, ah few links to click on.  Truth is an absolute defense to defamation, so he eh have nutten to worry about... post the links.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Football supporter on February 21, 2013, 01:07:23 PM
How does failure to declare equate to money laundering ?

From what I can gather from the story posted below, they were allegedly stopped at Piarco as they were leaving with the undeclared cash. A few calls were made and they were allowed to continue their journey. However, U.S. customs were alerted and arrested them both when they landed.

I am not sure if carrying a large amount of cash across international borders is classed as money laundering, but I do recall that there are tight laws in the U.S. & U.K. regarding large amounts of cash crossing borders brought about to curtail the movement of receipts from drug trafficking.

But the whole point is that it's just gossip until someone proves otherwise.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on February 21, 2013, 01:48:30 PM
Ask Bakes about this story..since last December I PM him and another poster to ask about this same thing.

Bakes pointed out then that the story sounding like shit unless there was more to it than what I asked.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on February 21, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
How does failure to declare equate to money laundering ?

Because in popular understanding some ppl conflate the two ... such that if yuh have an excessive amount of cash, one of the inferences is yuh purpose is to launder. This is why I haven't taken a strict interpretation of the "reports".
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on February 21, 2013, 04:26:50 PM
Ask Bakes about this story..since last December I PM him and another poster to ask about this same thing.

Bakes pointed out then that the story sounding like shit unless there was more to it than what I asked.

All ole talk aside, dreamer have mih intrigued if he say it have more in de pestle dan meets de eye.  So I reserving judgment on the merits fuh now, but on the facts as presented the story really doesn't pass muster.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on February 21, 2013, 04:38:37 PM
How does failure to declare equate to money laundering ?

Because in popular understanding some ppl conflate the two ... such that if yuh have an excessive amount of cash, one of the inferences is yuh purpose is to launder. This is why I haven't taken a strict interpretation of the "reports".
Figured as much
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: g on February 21, 2013, 05:56:21 PM
How does failure to declare equate to money laundering ?

Because in popular understanding some ppl conflate the two ... such that if yuh have an excessive amount of cash, one of the inferences is yuh purpose is to launder. This is why I haven't taken a strict interpretation of the "reports".
Figured as much

Correct is right, the sheer volume of cash entering a country can lead to the inference that whatever the purpose of the money is, the real purpose is to not have a digital trail of the spend.

That kind of money could have easily gone on a credit card to make a purchase if that was the intention. Go figure
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on February 21, 2013, 08:51:09 PM
Correct is right, the sheer volume of cash entering a country can lead to the inference that whatever the purpose of the money is, the real purpose is to not have a digital trail of the spend.

That kind of money could have easily gone on a credit card to make a purchase if that was the intention. Go figure

The purpose could simply be to not leave a digital trail and not have the funds counted as income for tax purposes.  Still illegal, but not the same as money laundering.  In this particular case unless the source of the funds is itself illegal (such as from dealing in contraband) then it's not money laundering.  This is yet another reason to disbelieve the reports... how would anyone at this point know the source of the funds, such as to say it's illegal proceeds?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Socapro on February 21, 2013, 09:32:32 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: elan on February 22, 2013, 01:08:01 AM
This thread providing rel blue balls.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bourbon on February 22, 2013, 08:19:38 AM
Me eh kno what or why allyuh working up allyuhself for.

Is only so much day could run until night ketch him.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on February 22, 2013, 08:45:11 AM
still ..............d men at d heart of d matter doh see it fit to properly put dem rumours to rest hmmm.........want to see it in black an white doh...if true, that is.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on February 22, 2013, 01:33:08 PM
Guys you ever notice stories  about Jack Warner has very few paper trail but there is always some sort of word of mouth to it.

  I heard about this  lawyer working in one of the TV stations left Trinbago to handle the situation with young Warner ,i don't know who that lawyer is but people who live in Trinbago should know him.

This story coming out in little pieces, the  media  is afraid to make any comments about it, but to come out it will. 

 
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: g on February 22, 2013, 01:58:46 PM
The reality is that journalists need to get some factual evidence either by acquiring documents or testimony from sources intimate with the situation before publishing anything. It would be irresponsible or even libelous to do otherwise.

The only principal available for comment is Senior Warner and when Sampson Nanton asked the question directly he was defiant, denying any claims, even daring the media to publish the story for him to sue. I can even understand the hesitancy in the local media to push this story as everything floating about is pure hearsay.

One care argue that the press isn't doing enough to acertain what the facts really are and bring the truth out to the people.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on February 22, 2013, 04:41:18 PM
The reality is that journalists need to get some factual evidence either by acquiring documents or testimony from sources intimate with the situation before publishing anything. It would be irresponsible or even libelous to do otherwise.

The only principal available for comment is Senior Warner and when Sampson Nanton asked the question directly he was defiant, denying any claims, even daring the media to publish the story for him to sue. I can even understand the hesitancy in the local media to push this story as everything floating about is pure hearsay.

One care argue that the press isn't doing enough to acertain what the facts really are and bring the truth out to the people.

It cah be dat hard to confirm with the Airport authority that Daryan was caught with undisclosed money.
At least they could print that much. Then let JW prim and pram.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on February 22, 2013, 06:49:42 PM
The reality is that journalists need to get some factual evidence either by acquiring documents or testimony from sources intimate with the situation before publishing anything. It would be irresponsible or even libelous to do otherwise.

The only principal available for comment is Senior Warner and when Sampson Nanton asked the question directly he was defiant, denying any claims, even daring the media to publish the story for him to sue. I can even understand the hesitancy in the local media to push this story as everything floating about is pure hearsay.

One care argue that the press isn't doing enough to acertain what the facts really are and bring the truth out to the people.

It cah be dat hard to confirm with the Airport authority that Daryan was caught with undisclosed money.
At least they could print that much. Then let JW prim and pram.

VB

Right now Chandresh Sharma saying "good luck wid dat!".
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on February 23, 2013, 05:42:24 PM
Me eh kno what or why allyuh working up allyuhself for.

Is only so much day could run until night ketch him.

Yup......I waiting patiently.....where there is smoke there is fire........
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on February 23, 2013, 10:45:10 PM
Why somebody doh go on Daryan FB page and ask him.  ;D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on February 24, 2013, 12:57:56 AM
Okay  Bakes and every one else saying that the money could of been on a credit card instead of liquid cash .

Ok fine ,but something is going  on in foreign concerning Jack sons .

 Mrs  Jenny Primus X PSA President  from i95fm was asking how come none of our investigated journilist could tell the public what is going on with a high ranking politician son or sons in a US OF A prison .

 

 
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: g on February 24, 2013, 12:00:38 PM
Spoke to a media person. Heard that they've now been moved to a facility in New York, apparently the federal department is not yet announcing officially their detainment because of some government to government negotiations on bigger fish that are of interest to the US authorities.

Rumourville but as we can all agree that something aint right.

Apparently all media houses are aware but are sitting on the story for now.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on February 24, 2013, 12:22:10 PM
Why somebody doh go on Daryan FB page and ask him.  ;D

 ;D ;D

Yuh know I wanted to ask how come Daryan (and Daryl??) eh just come out and say, "but look we here.....what is all de fuss about??"..... :thinking: :thinking:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on February 24, 2013, 12:23:05 PM
Okay  Bakes and every one else saying that the money could of been on a credit card instead of liquid cash .

Ok fine ,but something is going  on in foreign concerning Jack sons .

 Mrs  Jenny Primus X PSA President  from i95fm was asking how come none of our investigated journilist could tell the public what is going on with a high ranking politician son or sons in a US OF A prison .

 

 

Wrong person breds.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on February 24, 2013, 01:25:12 PM
Spoke to a media person. Heard that they've now been moved to a facility in New York, apparently the federal department is not yet announcing officially their detainment because of some government to government negotiations on bigger fish that are of interest to the US authorities.

Rumourville but as we can all agree that something aint right.

Apparently all media houses are aware but are sitting on the story for now.

2 Warner = Ish and Steve?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on February 24, 2013, 01:53:12 PM
Tasty. But I want Jack lock up too. 2 for 3 special.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bourbon on February 24, 2013, 02:04:59 PM
WAIT NAH!


How come Jack Horner eh weigh in on dis yet?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on February 24, 2013, 02:34:35 PM
Ting on front burner, ting on back burner. More fiyah!  All manner of burning issues on de table. Then yuh have smoke and mirrors and no smoke where there's no fire.

I sense a 5-alarm fire imminent. It could be every manJack fuh himself. Somebody going to get bun!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: elan on February 24, 2013, 02:57:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/Lsce_CsWME0
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on February 24, 2013, 06:43:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/Lsce_CsWME0

SONG 4 D HOUR.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on February 24, 2013, 08:29:00 PM
My peeps tell me Daryl is back in TNT Daryan on d other hand ...
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Tallman on February 25, 2013, 04:03:03 PM
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Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: dreamer on March 02, 2013, 10:53:04 AM
On an entirely different note ...
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A football-loving friend who loves this Socawarrior website wanted to explore some investment opportunities / property purchases from this company listed above but could not find a phone number.
Anybody could help with a number?

 :beermug:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 02, 2013, 11:03:35 AM
If yuh friend really interested in investing in/purchasing this property then that is as simple as contacting a R/E professional and going from there.  If yuh friend just using that as pretext tuh track down de owner... then good luck.  Btw... run de story nah, inquiring minds want to know de real.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on March 02, 2013, 08:07:38 PM
On an entirely different note ...
http://www.ishcc.org/FL/Miami/dw-property-holdings-llc
A football-loving friend who loves this Socawarrior website wanted to explore some investment opportunities / property purchases from this company listed above but could not find a phone number.
Anybody could help with a number?

 :beermug:

 305-860-9733

Every once in a while I come across a poster who I never noticed b4 and they have a couple thousand posts to their name.

I am in SHOCK I have never noticed GTFOOHWDBS before and the man have over 14000 posts!!!
Either you have changed your handle or I just not observant.  :o

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 02, 2013, 08:22:35 PM
That is true trini playing the ass as usual lol
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Coop's on March 04, 2013, 04:21:26 PM
 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :banginghead: :banginghead:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: elan on March 04, 2013, 08:52:10 PM
Look Coop's make ah guest appearance.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bourbon on March 04, 2013, 10:33:38 PM
Eh..... hear dis nah.


Until something concrete come up.....yuh think it wise to post? Everytime I see new replies to this topic I come in expecting something more than rumour...and getting dissapointed.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 04, 2013, 10:43:10 PM
I propose de Mods lock this thread... when some new development happen somebody could create a new thread and then it can be merged with this one.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 10, 2013, 12:09:07 AM
Whats this about?


Minister’s son under sealed indictment in US
Sunday, March 10, 2013
DENYSE RENNE (T&T Guardian).


Information on a case against the son of a senior government minister in the United States is hard to come by because the circumstances surrounding the case have been cloaked in secrecy, as authorities there are dealing with it through a sealed indictment.
 
A Sunday Guardian investigation has revealed the minister’s son is under house arrest in the US and is also assisting the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) with investigations. Sources say US authorities have already signalled their intention to interview the minister, who they say will assist greatly in their investigations.
 
Since his son’s detention, local sources say, the minister has not travelled to the US. The investigations, sources say, have so far centred on money-laundering, fraud and tax evasion. The minister’s son was held in December last year when he arrived in the US. A source described it as a highly sensitive case, explaining, “Only the officers dealing with the matter are aware of what is taking place.
 
“Those involved are sworn to secrecy.” Under a sealed indictment, no information about the case goes public until the prosecution is satisfied that all the parties implicated and evidence to support the allegations are before the courts. The fact that the indictment is sealed means it is not even registered on a judicial database.
 
It also means the public does not have access to documents or information, even about such basic facts as the identities of the prosecution, judge, defendants, evidence to be led and even the charges. Though no time frame has been given for the lifting of the seal, sources say once this is done, the contents of the case will be made public.
 
The secrecy cloak, the source explained, is the reason why international, regional and local media outlets have been unable to unearth any information. So far, the case has taken investigators to different international jurisdictions and they have already gathered a dossier of financial statements from various countries.
 
 
In applying for the indictment to be sealed, sources say the prosecutors outlined a plethora of reasons, one of which was that several high-ranking people worldwide are implicated and investigations are ongoing. International law enforcement agencies have also discovered numerous shady transactions involving the setting up of overnight companies and offshore banking accounts.
 
 
Several calls to the minister’s cell phone and messages left were not returned. Contacted on the matter, the US Embassy said, “As a matter of long-standing policy we do not comment on, confirm or deny law-enforcement matters.” The Department of Justice in the US, in an e-mailed response to a query, wrote: “In addition to our spokesperson looking into your request, I would suggest contacting the FBI Public Affairs Office.”
 
When the Sunday Guardian contacted that office, we were told it was not the policy of the FBI to comment on cases.
 
 
More info
In the US, a grand jury hears the key facts of a case to decide if there is enough evidence for someone to stand trial. If the jurors believe a trial is warranted, they issue an indictment—a formal accusation which serves as a warning to the accused that a trial will be held. Sometimes it is determined that the indictment should be kept secret.
 
A secret indictment is also known as a sealed indictment or silent indictment. In this case, the documentation surrounding the indictment is kept under seal, and no one involved may discuss the indictment outside of the grand jury hearings, or with anyone else once the hearings are over. Once unsealed, there is a possibility the information/evidence can be used in apprehending a bigger culprit.
 
When the seal is lifted, the contents of the indictment can be made public.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 10, 2013, 12:29:30 AM
There's a hole in the bucket, dear Jack, dear Jack
There's a hole in the bucket, dear Jack, a hole.
Then seal it, Mr. US Attorney , Mr. US Attorney, Mr. US Attorney
If yuh bad, if yuh bad, then seal it, seal it!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: g on March 10, 2013, 02:14:18 AM
And so it begins........ This one is the straw that will break the camel's back

Watch the ride
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Richard G. on March 10, 2013, 04:43:57 AM
Look at BACHANNAL!!!! We await the unsealing of these files.

Blessings and enjoy the day
Richard G.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 10, 2013, 04:47:54 AM
"Jack will rise again! "

Lol.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on March 10, 2013, 06:09:29 AM
Well yes.....look ting!!   :-X :whistling:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Feliziano on March 10, 2013, 07:35:23 AM
run..ah tsunami coming  ;D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on March 10, 2013, 07:52:42 AM
Calling Jack Honer please comment ,not hearing you say something.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: boss on March 10, 2013, 08:06:14 AM
In applying for the indictment to be sealed, sources say the prosecutors outlined a plethora of reasons, one of which was that several high-ranking people worldwide are implicated and investigations are ongoing. International law enforcement agencies have also discovered numerous shady transactions involving the setting up of overnight companies and offshore banking accounts.

Interesting...  :thinking:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 10, 2013, 08:11:36 AM
...and nowhere in the article is Jack Warner's name mentioned.  Don't tell me about the pain, show me the baby.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Feliziano on March 10, 2013, 08:19:13 AM
...and nowhere in the article is Jack Warner's name mentioned.  Don't tell me about the pain, show me the baby.
true...we all want it to be Jack.
just speculating, but could it be a minister with Syrian connections then?
That might be better than nailing Jack Warner imo.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bourbon on March 10, 2013, 08:31:14 AM
Dis article is just a summary of wha this thread is.


When de seal getting buss now? And doh tell me some plea deal coming in dis eh..cuz like the stage setting for it.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Deeks on March 10, 2013, 09:12:48 AM
...and nowhere in the article is Jack Warner's name mentioned.  Don't tell me about the pain, show me the baby.

I have to agree with Bakes on this one. Until the documents are officially unsealed, allyuh should simmer down allyuh exuberance. For 30 yrs Jack has lived this houdini life and allyuh don't want to be disappointed if is not Jack son.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on March 10, 2013, 10:00:00 AM
Is not Jacks son is one of the Jacksons.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 10, 2013, 10:31:48 AM
...and nowhere in the article is Jack Warner's name mentioned.  Don't tell me about the pain, show me the baby.
true...we all want it to be Jack.
just speculating, but could it be a minister with Syrian connections then?
That might be better than nailing Jack Warner imo.

Heheh ... all ministers have Syrian connections.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 10, 2013, 10:32:53 AM
...and nowhere in the article is Jack Warner's name mentioned.  Don't tell me about the pain, show me the baby.

I have to agree with Bakes on this one. Until the documents are officially unsealed, allyuh should simmer down allyuh exuberance. For 30 yrs Jack has lived this houdini life and allyuh don't want to be disappointed if is not Jack son.

Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 10, 2013, 06:59:53 PM
steups is damn well Jackson they talking about
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on March 10, 2013, 08:12:12 PM
steups is damn well Jackson they talking about

Who iz jackson?? ;D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on March 10, 2013, 08:12:44 PM
I just want to know how come with all this mystery surrounding them, one or both of the Jacksons eh come out and say....."but what happen to all yuh, look we right here....."

Dey like de mystery too??   :thinking: :-\
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on March 10, 2013, 08:42:06 PM
steups is damn well Jackson they talking about

Who iz jackson?? ;D

Tito
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on March 10, 2013, 11:05:20 PM
Just goes to show that jack horner iz not who he said he was, hummer meh rass!!

is ah forumite humming away!    :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: fishs on March 11, 2013, 03:53:59 AM

  PNM mischief
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Flex on March 11, 2013, 04:57:50 AM
IDENTIFY YOURSELF
Rowley: Minister whose son is under probe must come forward
By Anna Ramdass (Express).


The government minister whose sons are allegedly under investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in the United States must come forward and identify himself or herself.

This is the position of who told the Express, by telephone yesterday, the country must not be left in a state of speculation.

"I think the minister should be identified and the public shouldn't be left to speculate, and at that stage we would determine the nature of the problem," said Rowley.

He said he sees the issue as a family problem and, depending who the minister is, then it could become a matter of national interest.

"It is not fair to be left to speculation against the whole Cabinet... whoever is involved should come forward and identify himself or herself because there is a lot of speculation and rumour, and in the public interest a matter like this should not be left as a speculative manner."
Rowley added that if money laundering issues are involved, this could be a matter of public interest.

He said the People's Partnership Government is one that governs under a cloak of secrecy.

"Unfortunately, it has been the very nature and issue of the Government. This Government has distinguished itself in one particular area, and that is not being truthful and forthright with the public, and they tend to fool the public on matters of public interest and, in fact, they take the public for fools," he said.

"So when matters arise that require explanation or acceptance of truth and so on, you are forced to draw information from the Government like pulling teeth," he continued.

Rowley said he and members of the Roundtable—representatives of the unions and non-governmental organisations (NGOs)—will be speaking at a public meeting tonight in St James, where issues of governance will be addressed.

He added that the joint police-army patrols proposed by the Government pose a threat to the good order of the nation, and much more will be said on this tonight.

"And in all issues, the one common thread is that the Government is not being forthright and truthful with the population and continues to destroy our good order," said Rowley.

And Prakash Ramadhar, political leader of the Congress of the People (COP), said more information was needed concerning the Minister and his family.

"I wait with bated breath for more information on this matter because it is extremely serious and I imagine quite urgent," said Ramadhar.
"Having read the (Sunday Guardian) article, we are waiting on the foreign authorities' decision as to how they go forward and what is disclosed to us.

"I do not want to comment at this point in time, but rest assured once there is material supporting one way or the other this serious allegation, the COP will not remain open to embrace those silent on that matter."

Ramadhar was speaking during a news conference at the COP's head office in Charlieville, Chaguanas, yesterday.

Attorney General Anand Ramlogan was also contacted on the issue, but he declined comment.

National Security Minister Jack Warner also declined comment.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 11, 2013, 05:03:11 AM
Rowley start hahaha. Poking fire.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: trini_stallion on March 11, 2013, 05:08:06 AM
Gihhh dem woood Rowley...ah hope he bite into this...warner needs to be out of public life...dutty croook...
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: MEP on March 11, 2013, 10:20:39 AM
My issue is that if a minister's son is involved and the FBI has to interview the Minister are they interviewing the Minister because he or she is involved in money laundering? Are they interviewing the Minister as a favor to the gov't of T&T?
 How then can he or she perform the duties entrusted to them by the people of T&T?
Title: Re: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 11, 2013, 10:58:59 AM
My issue is that if a minister's son is involved and the FBI has to interview the Minister are they interviewing the Minister because he or she is involved in money laundering? Are they interviewing the Minister as a favor to the gov't of T&T?
 How then can he or she perform the duties entrusted to them by the people of T&T?

Ask Kamla
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 11, 2013, 11:53:29 AM
Go through the Cabinet (doh restrict yuhself to the referred to "son of a senior government minister" language) ... eliminate those without sons, eliminate minor sons and deceased sons, and those whose sons whose liberty you can account for, or attest to ... publish your findings.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on March 12, 2013, 08:07:39 PM
To day the media ask the PM Kamlar if any of the ministers in the cabinet sons are locked up or under house arrest in foreign, she said she did not know anything about that .

That lady have a wake up call coming i hope she was advised .
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 12, 2013, 10:19:54 PM
To day the media ask the PM Kamlar if any of the ministers in the cabinet sons are locked up or under house arrest in foreign, she said she did not know anything about that .

That lady have a wake up call coming i hope she was advised .

if yuh know something den share it nah!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 15, 2013, 05:49:24 AM
"There was no discussion on that issue." - Jamal Mohammed's comments on this matter.

Yes, Minister!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 15, 2013, 05:53:46 AM
Take care when all is said and done, Jack Warner craftily created this whole affair.  Just saying.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 15, 2013, 06:24:45 AM
Let's discuss.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: TdotTrini on March 15, 2013, 06:44:10 AM
"There was no discussion on that issue." - Jamal Mohammed's commefirmed there is an issue here.
"There was no discussion on that issue." - Jamal Mohammed's comments on this matter.

Yes, Minister!

Seems the Minister just confirmed the issue is credible.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: FATZ on March 15, 2013, 08:52:30 AM
Whoever knows anything fraid the FBI and in turn the US government so they not saying a word. They already stated that it's a silent indictment and big heads supposed to be involved so if that is true, the FBI will be very harsh on anybody who screws with their case.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 15, 2013, 08:59:58 AM
Fatz  is truetrini..wey de hell yuh was all dese years
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: FATZ on March 15, 2013, 09:06:45 AM
Fatz  is truetrini..wey de hell yuh was all dese years

'mining' children boy, lost track of the forum and now trying to catch up on years of posting and this one caught my eye so i decided to throw in my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 17, 2013, 06:55:31 PM
Minister's Son Mum on FBI/IRS Case in the US
Sunday, March 17, 2013
DENYSE RENNE

The 45-year-old son of a senior government minister has refused to comment on the case law enforcement authorities in the United States are building against him. Contacted in Miami on Friday for a comment on the matter, he said, “I have no interest in speaking with you...but have a good day.” He then hung up. Another call to the residence went unanswered.
 
The circumstances surrounding the case are cloaked in secrecy and sources have said both the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) and the Internal Revenue Services (IRS) are dealing with it through a sealed indictment. Such a seal, sources say, can remain intact for years, once investigations are ongoing. 
 
Under a sealed indictment, no information about the case goes public until the prosecution is satisfied all the evidence to support the allegations against the implicated party has been gathered to take before the courts. With the indictment being sealed, public databases—such as the Public Access to Courts Electronic Records (PACER) in the US—will not record or register the case in its judicial database.
 
PACER is provided by the federal judiciary in keeping with its commitment to providing public access to court information via a centralised service. 
 
The seal also means the public does not have access to documents or information, even about such basic facts as the identities of the prosecution, judge, defendants or evidence to be led and the charges. Sources say investigators are pursuing money laundering, tax evasion and fraud convictions. The minister’s son, sources say, remains under house arrest while the investigators gather their evidence.
 
Calls to the US Embassy, the United States Department of Justice the FBI all yielded the same response: “We decline to comment.”
 
No comment from PM

It was only last week that Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, during a tour of police stations, said she was seeking answers about the exclusive Sunday Guardian report about the case against the minister’s son being under a sealed indictment. Persad-Bissessar said then: “I would be very concerned about anybody’s son and indeed if it was one of my ministers.”

She said, however, that she had “no information on any minister’s son who is in any circumstances abroad. I have no such information, advice or knowledge. I have asked.” ­­­­Further checks by Sunday Guardian as to the entities which Persad-Bissessar questioned went unanswered. Special adviser for public engagements at the Office of the Prime Minister Lisa Ghany when contacted and asked specifically whom Persad-Bissessar spoke to, asked that the questions be e-mailed.
 
Sunday Guardian complied and e-mailed the questions on Wednesday. Contacted on Friday, Ghany said, “I am not at liberty to comment on those questions.” Ambassador to the United States Dr Neil Parsan also asked that the questions be e-mailed. Sunday Guardian again complied.
 
 
In an e-mailed response, Parsan said, “No communication from US authorities has been received by the TT Embassy, Washington DC, and the Consulates in New York and Miami.” He said it was normal procedure that the Embassy in Washington be informed of TT nationals who were arrested and charged in the USA, but this usually occurred when those individuals are to be deported.
 
“The Embassy is generally in receipt of full documentation re persons detained when deportation proceedings have been initiated. Trinidad and Tobago nationals are encouraged to contact the Embassy or Consulates via telephone or e-mail in like matters.
 
“No such communication has occurred in this matter,” he said. Asked specifically whether the Prime Minister or any government official had contacted him to make inquiries into the matter, or whether he (Parsan) himself attempted to contact the IRS, FBI, or even the minister’s son after the article appeared, Parsan failed to give a response.
 
 
Questions to the PM
 
Questions posed by Sunday Guardian to the PM:
 
1) Has the Prime Minister, officially or otherwise, requested information from the US, as it pertains to reports of a minister’s son being held in the US under a secret indictment? If yes, when was such request made?
 
2) Has the PM been contacted by any US governmental official/agency with regards to a minister’s son being held in the US under a secret indictment?
 
3) Has the PM attempted to contact either the FBI or IRS on reports that a minister’s son is being held in the US under a secret indictment?
 
4) Following reports that (names called) have been arrested and are assisting officers with investigations in the US, has the PM made any contact with the men to ascertain their welfare/status?

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2013-03-17/ministers-son-mum-fbiirs-case-us
 
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Socapro on March 17, 2013, 09:50:23 PM
So what is the latest?

I see we are not allowed to speculate that is Jack son so some folks saying is Jackson!
Allyuh good yes, allyuh worse than kaisonian!  ;D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 18, 2013, 02:11:14 AM
Let's discuss.


Discuss what?  How incompetent the T&T media is?   How lazy their reporting onthis matter is?  How much spcualtion and innuendo and heresay they are reporting?

Steups.

When the mark buss we go hold we head and say WTF???

I betting money that neither Daryan Warner nor his brother Darryl Warner under any form of house arrest!  Yuh taking bet?

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 18, 2013, 02:18:56 AM
I don't have to bet. I know the address. ;).
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 18, 2013, 02:20:48 AM
I don't have to bet. I know the address. ;).

Me eh know what yuh taking about address etc.  If you and others have files buss dem or buss ah shit.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 18, 2013, 02:24:33 AM
Ah find yuh backpedalling on this issue of late ... yuh chasing that info with coconut water?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 18, 2013, 02:26:44 AM
Ah find yuh backpedalling on this issue of late ... yuh chasing that info with coconut water?

Breds I was de first here to ask the question!   Since last year as they went into "hiding."...no facts came to verify..so I check out....now you talking about back pedallling?  steups...I asking for facts for a while...you seem to be fanning flames more than the silence from the parties concerned.

I stoopid so help me out nah.

Hear nah I starting to feel that you is a warner yes.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 18, 2013, 03:07:38 AM
Let's discuss.


Discuss what?  How incompetent the T&T media is?    How lazy their reporting onthis matter is?  How much spcualtion and innuendo and heresay they are reporting?Steups.

When the mark buss we go hold we head and say WTF???

I betting money that neither Daryan Warner nor his brother Darryl Warner under any form of house arrest!  Yuh taking bet?

Let's discuss your postulation that it's possibly a craftily, created affair. Rationale?

Send dem to the School of Andrew Jennings (http://vimeo.com/56240388).
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 18, 2013, 03:13:31 AM
Ah find yuh backpedalling on this issue of late ... yuh chasing that info with coconut water?

Breds I was de first here to ask the question!   Since last year as they went into "hiding."...no facts came to verify..so I check out....now you talking about back pedallling?  steups...I asking for facts for a while...you seem to be fanning flames more than the silence from the parties concerned.

I stoopid so help me out nah.

Hear nah I starting to feel that you is a warner yes.

Granny say what in de dark will come into de light. Right? In the meantime occupy yuhself with one of the sentences that should haunt the Prime Minister later. "I have asked." Indictment on her leadership available as an election issue one way or the other.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 18, 2013, 04:18:03 AM
sooo, you waiting for sun to illuminate, all de time I thinking you know something and was about to shed light on allegations???? steups
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: g on March 18, 2013, 05:46:29 AM
If yuh looking for the Soca Warriors money since 1989 just do a search here

Search criteria: Daryll Warner

gisweb.miamidade.gov/propertysearch/?desktop=yes

Allegedly bought these properties cash
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 18, 2013, 05:52:10 AM
If yuh looking for the Soca Warriors money since 1989 just do a search here

Search criteria: Daryll Warner

gisweb.miamidade.gov/propertysearch/?desktop=yes

Allegedly bought these properties cash

nonsense,  one was purchased in 2006 for 990,000
 otehrs for 129,900....139,000.....118,750...dat shows the 400,000 is shit talk...not so?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 18, 2013, 05:55:02 AM
Listen I understand that TV6 doing a big story tonight at 7 pm on dat issue.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: g on March 18, 2013, 06:01:02 AM
Ah waiting patiently.

Based on the info the IRS looking at them fellas for a while now.

Any cash transaction over 10k for property is subject to investigation.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 18, 2013, 06:49:23 AM
moved to tuesday due to presidential inaug
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 18, 2013, 11:42:54 AM
If yuh looking for the Soca Warriors money since 1989 just do a search here

Search criteria: Daryll Warner

gisweb.miamidade.gov/propertysearch/?desktop=yes

Allegedly bought these properties cash

Allyuh men need to stop buying wholesale what PNM Abroad selling.  That Facebook site doing more of a disservice than anything with the amount of shit they does post and speculation that they fomenting.  That "bought" cash talk came from some gyul who posted it without substantiation and now you doing the same thing.  In the end that very well might turn out to be true, but unless allyuh see some kinda source attributed or something allyuh could check it doesn't help the discussion to just be passing along rumors and innuendos on something as potentially important as this.

My particular issue with what going on with PNM Abroad is that everybody looking at the fact that he allegedly only declare income of US $6,000, yet bought four properties worth over $300,00.00 each.  People in Trinidad are largely unfamiliar with the concept of financing home purchases and that only a small amount of cash and good credit is enough to secure a mortgage. 

And then the talk about he paid cash for it: aside from the folly of needlessly walking around with a briefcase full of cash... who does that?    Who willingly invites IRS and Treasury Department scrutiny by paying greater than $10,000 in cash for anything (not just real estate transactions... any transaction for that amount or greater triggers automatic reporting requirements under AML laws).  It would be much simpler to pay with a cashier's check or by wiring the money bank to bank. 

All that aside... how would anybody know whether the property was paid for by cash unless they were privy to the transaction?  That info is not in the public domain.  I've said it before and will say it again... I happy to see Jack brought down as much as the next man, but this feeding frenzy that people does engage in anytime they smell anything resembling blood in the water, it kinda distasteful... especially when it coming from supposedly intelligent and educated people (PNM-A).
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 18, 2013, 12:28:18 PM
If yuh looking for the Soca Warriors money since 1989 just do a search here

Search criteria: Daryll Warner

gisweb.miamidade.gov/propertysearch/?desktop=yes

Allegedly bought these properties cash

Allyuh men need to stop buying wholesale what PNM Abroad selling.  That Facebook site doing more of a disservice than anything with the amount of shit they does post and speculation that they fomenting.  That "bought" cash talk came from some gyul who posted it without substantiation and now you doing the same thing.  In the end that very well might turn out to be true, but unless allyuh see some kinda source attributed or something allyuh could check it doesn't help the discussion to just be passing along rumors and innuendos on something as potentially important as this.

My particular issue with what going on with PNM Abroad is that everybody looking at the fact that he allegedly only declare income of US $6,000, yet bought four properties worth over $300,00.00 each.  People in Trinidad are largely unfamiliar with the concept of financing home purchases and that only a small amount of cash and good credit is enough to secure a mortgage. 

And then the talk about he paid cash for it: aside from the folly of needlessly walking around with a briefcase full of cash... who does that?    Who willingly invites IRS and Treasury Department scrutiny by paying greater than $10,000 in cash for anything (not just real estate transactions... any transaction for that amount or greater triggers automatic reporting requirements under AML laws).  It would be much simpler to pay with a cashier's check or by wiring the money bank to bank. 

All that aside... how would anybody know whether the property was paid for by cash unless they were privy to the transaction?  That info is not in the public domain.  I've said it before and will say it again... I happy to see Jack brought down as much as the next man, but this feeding frenzy that people does engage in anytime they smell anything resembling blood in the water, it kinda distasteful... especially when it coming from supposedly intelligent and educated people (PNM-A).

Yeah!  Exactly.  One setta shit talk.

First the customs stopped both the sons, then they let the little one aka Darryl go.  But Daryan is under house arrest and was being called upon to testify against his daddy.

Now it is Darryl that is under house arrest for purchasing 4 homes each at 100.000 cash, and has an income of only 6000.00 per month!

Looking at the tax records that PNM A is posting all over the place, none of the homes cost 100k, and only 3 were acquired last year.

I find that normally where there is smoke there is fire, but the allegations and innuendo killing de vibes and so is the SLOPPY so called journalism and lazy man/woman reporting.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 18, 2013, 12:36:48 PM
If anything people should be laughing at the fact that he paid ah ton ah money for them properties and now all ah dem under water.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 18, 2013, 12:55:00 PM
If anything people should be laughing at the fact that he paid ah ton ah money for them properties and now all ah dem under water.

Especially the Brickell one, is around 400k dey down.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 18, 2013, 01:30:50 PM
If anything people should be laughing at the fact that he paid ah ton ah money for them properties and now all ah dem under water.

Especially the Brickell one, is around 400k dey down.

Yeah boy fella lost half de equity on dat one.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 19, 2013, 04:47:26 PM
http://www.tv6tnt.com/watch-live  7 pm news on Jacks sone and if dem under house arrest  lol
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 19, 2013, 06:20:54 PM
So fater all dat neither of the Warner boys even under house arrest?  steups
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 19, 2013, 07:15:18 PM
Alma fater?  :D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 19, 2013, 07:37:20 PM
Alma fater?  :D

lol  after
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Football supporter on March 19, 2013, 07:58:01 PM
So fater all dat neither of the Warner boys even under house arrest?  steups


I find it interesting that son takes after father in the way questions are answered. Never once did he say he was not under investigation in the USA. He certainly showed he was not tagged and could leave his property, but I'm damned sure most of us faced with a camera crew and "false" accusations would say something like "I can categorically state that I am not, nor have I ever been, under arrest or the subject of investigations"

Of course, if you are innocent, you don't have to prove that your innocent, but isn't it second nature to do so? There's nothing to lose and much to gain.

House arrest is inconvenient, but having your passport confiscated is just as serious. I would imagine, given the diplomatic situation, that if I were the U.S. authorities, I would be happy to give a subject freedom of movement if I had reassurances or a bond from a foreign government, especially if I had froze the subjects bank accounts and confiscated their passport.  Just supposing  :thinking:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 19, 2013, 08:50:48 PM
how can they take someones passport without a court order? and if any of the two appeared before a judge, then that is public record...show me the money.  He was using his debit card and credit card.  I filmed the entire thing for tv6

Now in fairness I reported here that he already stated the charges were "fiction."
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 19, 2013, 08:54:27 PM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/_I_m_not__under_house__arrest_-199080491.html

'I'm not underhouse arrest'
Daryan Warner bares his ankles in Miami

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By Mark Bassant CCN Senior Multimedia Investigative Journalist
 
Story Created: Mar 19, 2013 at 9:59 PM ECT
Story Updated: Mar 19, 2013 at 10:05 PM ECT

Daryan Warner, the eldest son of National Security Minister Jack Warner, has dismissed speculation that he is under house arrest in the United States.

However, he has steadfastly refused to comment on if he is the subject of any investigation by federal authorities there.
Warner, 47, spoke to the Express in an exclusive interview (that ran on TV6 News last night) at his penthouse suite in Miami, Florida, where we tracked him down last Wednesday.

"You want to see an ankle bracelet on, an ankle here and an ankle there. Outside I would show you I not under house arrest, but I not speaking to the media," he said, standing in the doorway to his penthouse suite, acknowledging the rumours swirling around him before the Express could pose the first question.

He raised his long, navy blue track pants above his ankles, as though to demonstrate that his movements were not restricted by a tracking bracelet—the technology frequently used by US authorities to monitor a person's whereabouts.
In the last few months there have been rumours that the son of a government minister was under house arrest in the United States. Those reports prompted the media to ask Minister Warner on February 20 whether either of his sons, Daryan or Darryl Warner, had been detained abroad.

"If you think they are detained, there is a simple way—call them and find out if you have their numbers. But I will not say anything until somebody is bold enough to print something or to say something," an indignant Warner responded.
Seeking answers to a story that continues to churn the rumour mill, the Express took the National Security Minister's offer one step further and flew to Miami last week.

We found the Warner brothers at Unit 3504 of the Skyline condominium at 2101 Brickell Avenue in Miami.
The affluent neighbourhood on the outskirts of downtown Miami is dotted with upscale hotels, financial institutions and towering condominiums.

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Getting inside the Skyline condo is a challenge for visitors, with a guard booth stationed at the top of the driveway.
Visitors can only be admitted after a resident gives clearance to the 24-hour security staff.

The Express posed as prospective buyers to gain access to the luxury building.

On the 35th floor, overlooking the yachts lining the Brickell Bay waterfront, Darryl (who is said to be about 36 years old) answered the door.
He wore a sleeveless vest and a pair of shorts—with no sign of an ankle bracelet.

He told us his elder brother Daryan was at the gym on one of the building's lower floors.

The Express soon returned to the apartment after turning up empty-handed at the gym.

This time it was Daryan who answered the door. The Express started explaining to him what had brought us to his doorstep.
Despite his initial reluctance, he accommodated our questions.

Mark Bassant: You have been staying here and have no problem and you can leave the compound?

Daryan Warner: Absolutely not.

MB: You go and come as you like?

DW: You want to go for coffee?

MB: Sure, we can do that.

DW: Where you park, Mark?

Mark: I am downstairs, valet parking.

DW: Give me a few minutes to change.

Mark: I appreciate that.

DW: I not going to talk about that, but we can go PF Chang's, we could go Tootsie's, Vegas, we could go New York, California, but I not giving any comment to fuel fire.

As though to demonstrate, for a second time, that he was not under house arrest, Daryan proposed meeting in the lobby in 15 minutes.
During that time, the Express visited a vacant one-bedroom unit inside the Skyline building to get a sense of what the Warners' penthouse
spread looked like.

A captivating view of the Brickell Bay beachfront could be seen from the living room and bedroom.
"The only difference with this condo and the Warners' is that their own is a two-bedroom (unit)," a realtor pointed out to the Express.
Documents obtained through the Miami-Dade County Office of the Property Appraiser website show Darryl Warner as the owner of the top floor Skyline condo.
He purchased the property on November 1, 2006 at US$990,000—approximately TT$6.3 million.

It is one of four properties in the state of Florida owned by the younger Warner son.
Within the space of five months—between June and November last year—he purchased three other townhouses at a total cost of US$385,650 or TT$2.4 million.

Outside the most expensive of the four properties was where we resumed our meeting with Daryan Warner.

Dressed in a black short-sleeved shirt and jeans, Daryan strolled toward his metallic navy blue BMW coupe before stopping again, raising his pants legs a second time to show there was no device clamped around his ankles.

He lashed out at accusations reported by the press in Trinidad.
MB: As far as you know, there is no investigation by the FBI into your financial transactions?
DW: I can speak English, Korean and a bit of Spanish and you can ask me the same question any how you want. My response will be the same.
The Express learned that Daryan has a business in Miami called DW Property Holdings LLC, registered to the same address where he resides.
The business deals with the buying and selling of properties.

Daryan would neither confirm nor deny that he was under investigation by any US authority.

MB: There is no truth to any of the allegations brought forward in the last few months?

DW: That is not for me to determine. That is for you to print and for my representation to take any action that is necessary.

He was not as forthright when asked whether he is allowed to leave the US. He bluntly stated that topic was not up for discussion.
In tomorrow's Express: Daryan Warner laments being under scrutiny because he is a politician's son.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Football supporter on March 19, 2013, 09:44:35 PM
how can they take someones passport without a court order? and if any of the two appeared before a judge, then that is public record...show me the money.  He was using his debit card and credit card.  I filmed the entire thing for tv6

Now in fairness I reported here that he already stated the charges were "fiction."

Ok, so that is good info. I don't understand the powers under a silent indictment or whatever it's called. As I said, I was just supposing! But why does he not just deny it, clear his name and move on?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 19, 2013, 10:04:03 PM
if there is a sealed indictment that means that the person being probed usually does not even know they are investigated.   Now they may be tipped off but that is not usually the case.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 20, 2013, 06:27:11 AM
d video here

http://www.tv6tnt.com/sevenpm-news
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on March 20, 2013, 06:36:03 AM
it was interesting d lack of answers for if he could leave d states, ah straight yes, even if a boldfold lie woulda be my answer
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Fyzoman on March 20, 2013, 07:41:48 AM
I love this!!!!

His non-answers spoke volumes ;)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on March 20, 2013, 07:46:25 AM
on ah side note dem fuuckas ugly boy...wais :o
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on March 20, 2013, 07:49:27 AM
on ah side note dem fuuckas ugly boy...wais :o

De apple fall right below de tree.....didn't even roll.....
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 20, 2013, 08:19:57 AM
on ah side note dem fuuckas ugly boy...wais :o

De apple fall right below de tree bat didn't fly far from de cave.....didn't even roll unfold dey wings.....

  You wrong fuh callin' jack a apple tree in de first place. "Look ah fix it fuh yuh."
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sam on March 20, 2013, 09:17:17 AM
Trinidad people real f00cking chupid sah and that TV6 fella looking like some young punk, he representing a news station.

Ankle braclets is NOT always used, number one.

It have a few...

Look one here, voice curfew is a cheaper alternative to an ankle monitor. In this system, the violator is not required to wear any sort of device on his person. Instead, he simply must have a phone line at the house and workplace at all times. At scheduled times, he will be called by the voice curfew company and will have to report in. Voice-detection technology is used to verify voice authenticity. The criminal is subject to random calling and must respond to these phone calls as well; if not, the voice curfew company will report this to authorities.

Them Warners in some shit and dont want to say it, but de truth will come out, that God they not in T&T then it was a different story.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sam on March 20, 2013, 09:25:47 AM
Then, in January, the IRS found records indicating that younger son Darryl – a Miami resident and, somehow, incredibly, now a US citizen – had been dabbling in the Miami real estate market.

Specifically, he had just paid cash for four condominiums at $100,000 a pop. And since, according to their records, his reported income amounts to around $6000 a month, they were, shall we say, “curious” about where the money was coming from.

A cynic might say that this activity looks a lot like “money laundering” for the sake of Dear Old Dad back in the islands, but we’d hate to be accused of jumping to conclusions.

Reports now claim that Daryan is still in Miami under house arrest and while Darryl is not under any kind of official detention his (US) passport has been seized, making a run to the safety of T&T and Daddy’s loving arms pretty much impossible.

Up until now, reporters attempting to confirm the story have run up against a problem, namely that none of the Warner’s names and/or any charges against them show up on the PACERS system, which the criminally-inclined among you will recognize as the US Department of Justice’s official public database.

Furthermore, inquiries to various law enforcement and judicial agencies are routinely turned away with a polite but firm “we have nothing for you on that”.

Now, word is spreading that the reason is simple: the US government, and cooperating agencies worldwide, have obtained a sealed indictment against Jack Warner.

And the best part? According to T&T TV6 News, “high ranking intelligence officials in the US and Trinidad confirm that both sons are cooperating with authorities in return for a promise of leniency”.

On March 10, the Sunday T&T Guardian reported that:

“…investigation has revealed the minister’s son is under house arrest in the US and is also assisting the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) with investigations. Sources say US authorities have already signaled their intention to interview the minister…

Since his son’s detention, local sources say, the minister has not traveled to the US. The investigations, sources say, have so far centred on money-laundering, fraud and tax evasion.”


Jack is, of course, defiant and issued a clear threat to sue the crap out of anyone bold enough to publish the story:

This has led to some odd contortions from local media. For example, THIS REPORT from TV6 News which covers the story but does not mention either son’s name.

My favorite is this one from The Guardian where the reporters says he talked on the phone to “the 45-year-old son of a senior government minister.”

It’s worth noting that the formerly globe-trotting Warner recently declined an invitation to attend a major international conference on Caribbean crime, which was to be attended by among other the Attorney General of the US. He said he had to stay home in order to monitor local crime.

Uh huh.

There’s much more to come as the facts continue to leak out, but for us here I wanted to add a sad, frustrating, infuriating postscript to the story about the purloined soccer complex:

The most recent improvement at the facility – now called “Jack Warner’s Center of Excellence” by the locals – was a full sized artificial turf field, paid for with US$600,000 in FIFA Goal Program funds in 2005 (note that Havelange, who supposedly “gifted” the place to Warner, left office in 1998).

http://www.bigsoccer.com/soccer/bill-archer/2013/03/19/jack-warner-man-of-action-losing-traction/

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sam on March 20, 2013, 09:27:07 AM
Jack Warner Doesn't Want the World to Know About Trinidad's Drug Murders

http://www.vice.com/en_se/read/a-trinidadian-minister-wants-to-cover-up-murder-statistics

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 20, 2013, 10:10:15 AM
Bill Archer is a f**king tool... we still waiting for his expose on Chuck Blazer.  Jack Warner is a convenient target because he from the "third world" and as such automatically corruptible... but Americans like that fat f**k Blazer is a 'whistleblowing hero'.  GTFOH
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bourbon on March 20, 2013, 10:17:10 AM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/_I_m_not__under_house__arrest_-199080491.html

Documents obtained through the Miami-Dade County Office of the Property Appraiser website show Darryl Warner as the owner of the top floor Skyline condo.
He purchased the property on November 1, 2006 at US$990,000—approximately TT$6.3 million.

It is one of four properties in the state of Florida owned by the younger Warner son.
Within the space of five months—between June and November last year—he purchased three other townhouses at a total cost of US$385,650 or TT$2.4 million.




Interesting. Where dat piece of money coulda come from in November 2006?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 20, 2013, 10:36:54 AM
Trinidad people real f00cking chupid sah and that TV6 fella looking like some young punk, he representing a news station.

Ankle braclets is NOT always used, number one.

It have a few...

Look one here, voice curfew is a cheaper alternative to an ankle monitor. In this system, the violator is not required to wear any sort of device on his person. Instead, he simply must have a phone line at the house and workplace at all times. At scheduled times, he will be called by the voice curfew company and will have to report in. Voice-detection technology is used to verify voice authenticity. The criminal is subject to random calling and must respond to these phone calls as well; if not, the voice curfew company will report this to authorities.

Them Warners in some shit and dont want to say it, but de truth will come out, that God they not in T&T then it was a different story.



  Does this mean that this system has a way of overriding the call-forwarding feature on said phone line or does the law require the person under house arrest to have a phone line with NO fetaures other than to just Xmit and/or receive calls? 
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Mango Chow! on March 20, 2013, 10:37:46 AM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/_I_m_not__under_house__arrest_-199080491.html

Documents obtained through the Miami-Dade County Office of the Property Appraiser website show Darryl Warner as the owner of the top floor Skyline condo.
He purchased the property on November 1, 2006 at US$990,000—approximately TT$6.3 million.

It is one of four properties in the state of Florida owned by the younger Warner son.
Within the space of five months—between June and November last year—he purchased three other townhouses at a total cost of US$385,650 or TT$2.4 million.




Interesting. Where dat piece of money coulda come from in November 2006?

 "Adidas".....for starters?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sanchez on March 20, 2013, 01:34:50 PM
Interested read on Sports Illustrated today.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130320/concacaf-financial-scandal-fifa-usa.ap/index.html
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on March 20, 2013, 05:03:03 PM
Part two of the TV 6 story on now......
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 21, 2013, 02:44:02 AM
SEALED LIPS
Daryan Warner silent on burning questions in Miami

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http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/SEALED_LIPS-199284121.html

By Mark Bassant CCN Senior Multimedia Investigative Journalist
Story Created: Mar 20, 2013 at 11:56 PM ECT
Story Updated: Mar 21, 2013 at 12:00 AM ECT

Daryan Warner, the eldest son of National Security Minister Jack Warner, has shied away from answering burning questions on rumours that started flying since last November.

The question he has however answered outrightly is whether he is under house arrest in the United States. He has denied it and lifted his pants to show he is not wearing an ankle bracelet that would have tracked his movements.

He is adamant he is in no way restricted from moving around, but is he allowed to leave the US?
Is he the subject of any investigation by US authorities?
He is silent on these questions.

Warner was content to prove to the Express that he was certainly not limited to the confines of the Skyline condo building in Miami, Florida, when we visited him last week.

And so he left in his BMW coupe as he agreed to meet the Express at PF Chang's, a restaurant, ten minutes away.
On arrival, Warner instead opted to visit a neighbouring bar. He calmly sauntered in and ordered a beer.
Leaning against the bar, Warner told the Express if people were so interested in tracking his movements, they could have checked his credit card activity.

There has been an air of secrecy and mystery regarding what transpired—if anything at all—in Trinidad or in the US last year. That is when the rumour mill started churning.

For months, the Express has been attempting to collate solid information with supporting documents to verify rumours that were circulating. But hard, cold, documented facts were hard to come by.

The reports that have floated to the top emanate from high-ranking intelligence sources here in Trinidad and the United States—but so far, the media have no proof.

Talk about financial transactions and other questionable dealings were not up for discussion with Daryan Warner, but he did say he felt the spotlight was unfairly targeted on him because of his father, Jack Warner.

"I am not a politician; for me to open an options trading account in the US, you have to declare, you have to go to compliance because my family member is a politician. What is the deal? You get rejected 90 per cent of the time. If my father wants to serve the country, work with people in Trinidad and Tobago, what does that have to do with me? Why am I accountable to anybody?" he asked.

Yesterday, we contacted Minister Warner who, in a dismissive tone, said: "Mr Bassant, I am not talking to you and I am not talking to anybody at TV6."

Daryan, speaking to the Express in Miami last week, said all the allegations were adversely affecting some of his family members because of his job.

"You went by my ex-wife about a week and a half ago; you're doing your job and I am happy for you, but why should my ex-wife and kids be under duress because my father is a politician?"

Local media reports have speculated about a sealed indictment in the US.

A sealed indictment is usually issued by a judge presiding over felony cases. A judge can order an indictment to be sealed and demand that it be kept secret until a specified time.

Only those responsible for issuing a warrant against a suspect are made aware of an indictment while it is sealed.

The Express spoke to an official inside the records department of the US Federal Court in the Southern District of Florida.

He explained that an indictment may be sealed to avoid tipping off the defendant or if the defendant has a case pending.

Another case scenario that can occur, the official explained, is if the defendant co-operates with the government's prosecution of others who may be defendants in the same case or defendants in cases with other case numbers, then the case may remain sealed because of co-operation.

Sealed indictments are becoming more popular as part of one of the broadest initiatives the US government has undertaken because of US taxpayers' use of offshore accounts to hide taxable income.

Mark Berman, a federal defence attorney in New York, told the Express yesterday there is also the likelihood that the individual's name will appear in court records, but the information on the docket will not be revealed.

"If a defendant is arrested, they get in front of a judge. They get to see the indictment. It stays sealed on the docket but not publicly available, and there will be an indication on the docket, you know the indictment is sealed and then eventually, the government makes a motion to unseal the indictment," he said.

During our time at the court, the Express carried out a name search with respect to the Warners, but nothing appeared.

Berman told the Express in some cases, the entire indictment may be sealed—and not even the judge's name is known.

A trip to the Trinidad and Tobago Consulate in Miami to find out if they had any information about any Trinidadian nationals having their passports seized or being detained for any reason by US authorities within the last three months bore little fruit.

A senior official who later spoke to us said there was protocol in place under the Vienna Convention for US authorities to notify the Consulate when nationals are detained. However, they are not at liberty to discuss such matters with the media or public.

That is the key to Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar getting full knowledge of the real story here, according to Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley—through government-to-government relationships.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 21, 2013, 03:18:33 AM
He hiding something.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 21, 2013, 04:09:53 AM
Woo hoo! The media made it to Miami ... finally!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 21, 2013, 12:04:50 PM
This bordering on harrassment.  I fail to see what national concerns are implicated here.  Warner gave the media much more time that I would have.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: de_redman on March 21, 2013, 12:37:49 PM
This bordering on harrassment.  I fail to see what national concerns are implicated here.  Warner gave the media much more time that I would have.
Umm... Possible money laundering by a government minister using the Treasury and/or TTFF funds with the help of close family member(s). It should damn well be of national concern  >:(... Trinis take too much crap!!!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 21, 2013, 01:37:47 PM
This bordering on harrassment.  I fail to see what national concerns are implicated here.  Warner gave the media much more time that I would have.

Don't exaggerate (as to the bold). Ah know what yuh saying buh yuh starting to sound like he's yuh client. (I say that with no malice).

If yuh view the situation through his lens, it's appreciable why he extended the media the time he did. Perhaps he would have been better served to use an intermediary ... but he wanted to dispel a certain view (in person) and he eagerly bared his ankles ... seeking to create a shift in perception.

He also had a very decided view of what he wanted to share:

Quote
"You went by my ex-wife about a week and a half ago; you're doing your job and I am happy for you, but why should my ex-wife and kids be under duress because my father is a politician?"

To get what he wanted across, he suffered an intrusion he would have preferred not to have happened. 

It's "funny" because while he's not a public figure in the US, I think there are some making the case that he's a public figure in Trinidad & Tobago.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 21, 2013, 01:40:15 PM
This part here is right out of JW's playbook:

Quote
DW: That is not for me to determine. That is for you to print and for my representation to take any action that is necessary.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 21, 2013, 01:42:12 PM
I don't have to bet. I know the address. ;).

I stand by this post.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 21, 2013, 04:14:17 PM
Umm... Possible money laundering by a government minister using the Treasury and/or TTFF funds with the help of close family member(s). It should damn well be of national concern  >:(... Trinis take too much crap!!!

You and yuh little vex smiley face need to stop talking shit.  You don't know me or know what I know to be assuming that I taking "too much crap".  If there is money laundering by "a government minister" then the inquiries should be made to said government minister.

This bordering on harrassment.  I fail to see what national concerns are implicated here.  Warner gave the media much more time that I would have.

Don't exaggerate (as to the bold). Ah know what yuh saying buh yuh starting to sound like he's yuh client. (I say that with no malice).

If yuh view the situation through his lens, it's appreciable why he extended the media the time he did. Perhaps he would have been better served to use an intermediary ... but he wanted to dispel a certain view (in person) and he eagerly bared his ankles ... seeking to create a shift in perception.

He also had a very decided view of what he wanted to share:

Quote
"You went by my ex-wife about a week and a half ago; you're doing your job and I am happy for you, but why should my ex-wife and kids be under duress because my father is a politician?"

To get what he wanted across, he suffered an intrusion he would have preferred not to have happened. 

It's "funny" because while he's not a public figure in the US, I think there are some making the case that he's a public figure in Trinidad & Tobago.



Your analysis... unsurprisingly enough, is deficient.  The language I used was both precise and particular... this is bordering on harrassment... I didn't say it was absolute harassment.  There is no exaggeration, certainly not with regards to the harrying of the ex-wife and kids.  He likely "suffered an intrusion" in effort to put to rest the questioning of his extended family and associates, but whatever his mindset I did not need an explanation. I offered my own personal perspective on what I would have done, I did not exhibit confusion or lack of appreciation for his motives.  Your explanations are noted, but not necessary.

As for whether some view Daryan/Daryll Warner as a public figure... that is immaterial to the question of the implication of national concern.  There is a tenuous link thru his father, which is where the inquiry properly belongs.  If there is any wrongdoing on his part he did so in the capacity of a private citizen and as such owes no accounting to the media, in his position I would have been much more dismissive of the questioning, hence my original statement.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 21, 2013, 06:46:37 PM
Your analysis... unsurprisingly enough, is deficient.  The language I used was both precise and particular... this is bordering on harrassment... I didn't say it was absolute harassment.  There is no exaggeration, certainly not with regards to the harrying of the ex-wife and kids.  He likely "suffered an intrusion" in effort to put to rest the questioning of his extended family and associates, but whatever his mindset I did not need an explanation. I offered my own personal perspective on what I would have done, I did not exhibit confusion or lack of appreciation for his motives.   Your explanations are noted, but not necessary.

As for whether some view Daryan/Daryll Warner as a public figure... that is immaterial to the question of the implication of national concern.  There is a tenuous link thru his father, which is where the inquiry properly belongs.  If there is any wrongdoing on his part he did so in the capacity of a private citizen and as such owes no accounting to the media, in his position I would have been much more dismissive of the questioning, hence my original statement.

Save the pedagogical adventure for someone who needs it.

I bolded "[t]his bordering on harassment", and did so referring to that specific wording recognizing that you had narrowed it artfully. (That you were not referring to absolute harassment was obvious from the context and from the Express' record of events).

A case can be made that "bordering on harassment" constitutes exaggeration. I chose consciously not to develop that line of reasoning ... hence my comments were not comprehensive ... and hence why I stated "ah know what yuh saying". However, a contrary case is also fathomable. Depending on my relationship to the matter, I could posit either contention.

Whether you needed an explanation or not is irrelevant ... and, notably, I didn't provide one. What I did provide was a reflection of my thoughts and perspectives absent any concern with explanation. Who here is bound by your prescriptions, your hubris or your ego? Certainly, I am not. You offered a personal perspective on what you would have done, and I no where challenged the core of that perspective. Indeed, I merely built on it by way of reflection with my perspective.

People thought to be engaged in dubious conduct are subject to media scrutiny everyday ... regardless of "national concern". In any event, note I didn't assert that he was a public figure, I merely commented on what I see as an evolving position being taken by DW vis-a-vis his quest to be treated "privately". I like his posture on this. I don't think it's sustainable, but I like it.

(Incidentally, whether the link to his father is tenuous or not has not been determined).
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: g on March 21, 2013, 08:52:32 PM
Slightly off topic but Bassant made the full rounds while in Florida.

In part 3 of his trip he went to look for Calder Hart

Hart declined to appear on camera but in summary he confirmed that if charges are brought against him he will come to Trinidad to answer any such charges.

We still waiting on the AG to bring up charges against him though.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 21, 2013, 08:58:51 PM

Save the pedagogical adventure for someone who needs it.

I bolded "[t]his bordering on harassment", and did so referring to that specific wording recognizing that you had narrowed it artfully. (That you were not referring to absolute harassment was obvious from the context and from the Express' record of events).

A case can be made that "bordering on harassment" constitutes exaggeration. I chose consciously not to develop that line of reasoning ... hence my comments were not comprehensive ... and hence why I stated "ah know what yuh saying". However, a contrary case is also fathomable. Depending on my relationship to the matter, I could posit either contention.

Whether you needed an explanation or not is irrelevant ... and, notably, I didn't provide one. What I did provide was a reflection of my thoughts and perspectives absent any concern with explanation. Who here is bound by your prescriptions, your hubris or your ego? Certainly, I am not. You offered a personal perspective on what you would have done, and I no where challenged the core of that perspective. Indeed, I merely built on it by way of reflection with my perspective.

People thought to be engaged in dubious conduct are subject to media scrutiny everyday ... regardless of "national concern". In any event, note I didn't assert that he was a public figure, I merely commented on what I see as an evolving position being taken by DW vis-a-vis his quest to be treated "privately". I like his posture on this. I don't think it's sustainable, but I like it.

(Incidentally, whether the link to his father is tenuous or not has not been determined).

Heal thyself...  :beermug:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: de_redman on March 22, 2013, 06:50:01 AM
Umm... Possible money laundering by a government minister using the Treasury and/or TTFF funds with the help of close family member(s). It should damn well be of national concern  >:(... Trinis take too much crap!!!

You and yuh little vex smiley face need to stop talking shit.  You don't know me or know what I know to be assuming that I taking "too much crap".  If there is money laundering by "a government minister" then the inquiries should be made to said government minister.

I'm sure you know what is a logical fallacy. "Argumentum ad Hominem - the evasion of the actual topic by directing the attack at your opponent." In other words leave my smiley face and communication method out of this. Why should inquiries only be made to said government minister when there are potential accomplices? A man like you should know better than this.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sanchez on March 22, 2013, 10:03:38 AM
Lawd ha mercy...feel like I am back in school reading these threads....
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: boss on March 27, 2013, 01:41:06 PM
Reuters report: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/27/us-usa-fbi-soccer-idUSBRE92Q11820130327  :beermug:

EDIT: Full article

Exclusive: FBI has cooperating witness for soccer fraud probe: sources
By Mark Hosenball
WASHINGTON | Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:07pm EDT


(Reuters) - An FBI probe into alleged corruption in international soccer has recently intensified after investigators persuaded a key party to be a cooperating witness, U.S. law enforcement sources said.

They said that the witness is Daryan Warner, the son of former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner. The sources declined to further discuss the role of Daryan Warner, who could not be reached for comment.
 
They also would not say who might be charged, if anybody, or when. While the exact scope of the investigation is not clear, among the matters under scrutiny are two previously reported allegations involving Jack Warner, who is currently national security minister in his native Trinidad and Tobago.

The deepening of the probe indicates that a succession of corruption scandals involving FIFA and other international soccer bodies in the past few years may continue to cast a cloud over the sport for some time.

Jack Warner was formerly head of the Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football (CONCACAF), as well as previously being one of a number of vice-presidents of FIFA, soccer's global governing body. He has not been charged with any wrongdoing.

Since at least the summer of 2011, the FBI has been examining more than $500,000 in payments made by the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) over the past 20 years to an offshore company headed by top U.S. soccer official Chuck Blazer. That was a period during which Jack Warner was also head of the CFU, a position he held from the early 1980s until 2011.

The precise reasons for many of those payments is unclear. In 2011, Blazer said that the payments were meant to be repayments to him by Warner of "a significant amount of money" which Blazer said he loaned to Warner in 2004. Warner told the media in Trinidad that the payments were above board.

The Internal Revenue Service has joined in the investigation, which is looking into potential violations of U.S. tax laws and of U.S. anti-fraud statutes, including laws prohibiting wire fraud and mail fraud, law enforcement sources said.

"It's shaping up like a major case," one U.S. official familiar with the matter said.

In a telephone interview from Trinidad, Francis Joseph, a spokesman for Jack Warner, said that neither Jack nor Daryan Warner would have any comment on the investigation. "Nobody will speak to you about that," Joseph told Reuters.

In 2011, Jack Warner told the Parliament of Trinidad: "I will hold my head high to the very end. I am not guilty of a single iota of wrongdoing."

Daryan Warner was first interviewed by the FBI late last year after flying to the United States, a U.S. official said.

PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE

Jack Warner quit his FIFA and CONCACAF positions in June 2011 in the wake of allegations of bribery in a report by a lawyer commissioned by Blazer, a member of FIFA's executive committee and former general secretary of CONCACAF.

The report alleged that Warner collaborated with another FIFA vice president at the time, Mohamed Bin Hammam of Qatar, to bribe Caribbean soccer officials so that they would back a bid by Bin Hammam to become FIFA's president. Bin Hammam and Warner both have repeatedly denied wrongdoing.

Bin Hammam's U.S. lawyer, Eugene Gulland, said that while he had heard that U.S. authorities were investigating CONCACAF issues, Bin Hammam had not been contacted about the probe.

When Warner resigned his FIFA position, the organization declared that "the presumption of innocence is maintained" in his case. Spokespeople for the FBI and IRS had no comment on the investigation.

Blazer, who has announced he will not seek re-election as the U.S. member of FIFA's executive committee and will leave the position in May, said in a telephone interview that he had been advised by lawyers not to make any further comment. "I can't say anything at all," Blazer said.

Bin Hamman was banned for life from all FIFA and soccer activities in 2011 for trying to bribe soccer officials in the Caribbean in the run-up to the election. His ban was subsequently overturned by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) on the grounds that while it was "more likely than not" that he was the source of cash distributed by Warner "it is a situation of case not proven."

The ban was then reinstated in December last year for a separate matter concerning "conflicts of interest" while he was president of the Asian Football Confederation.

At one point recently, investigators from the FBI and the IRS traveled to the Caribbean and interviewed a witness regarding the alleged cash payoffs for more than two and a half hours, said a person who was in recent contact with the witness.

Andrew Jennings, a British journalist and author of the book "Foul! The Secret World of FIFA: Bribes, Vote Rigging and Ticket Scandals," said he has had several meetings with FBI investigators working on the case and provided the FBI and IRS with what Jennings describes as confidential documents he obtained related to payments from soccer organization funds to offshore bank accounts.

A law enforcement source confirmed that investigators had held discussions with Jennings.

In an email, FIFA's media department said the Swiss-based organization was "unaware" of any FBI investigation related to the Americas and Caribbean.

The New York-based FBI squad which is conducting the soccer investigation is a squad that specializes in "Eurasian Organized Crime." It is unclear why this particular squad is involved in the probe.

(Additional reporting by John Shiffman in Washington; Editing by Martin Howell and Claudia Parsons)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on March 27, 2013, 02:08:31 PM
Your move Kamla.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: mukumsplau on March 27, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
Your move Kamla.

right now kamla lock sheself in d toilet shittin bricks..
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on March 27, 2013, 02:12:43 PM
Things is begining to fall apart is just a matter of time.

Mamalar take a drink gul one, two or maybe three  :beermug:

And Jack while you at it PNM cause that.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on March 27, 2013, 02:14:37 PM
This is the most embarrassing story I've ever read about T&T.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: 1-868 on March 27, 2013, 02:20:09 PM
De bouncing start, De bouncing start :banginghead:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bourbon on March 27, 2013, 03:07:58 PM
Me eh kno what or why allyuh working up allyuhself for.

Is only so much day could run until night ketch him.

Right...so.....wha time is sunset?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bourbon on March 27, 2013, 03:09:14 PM
Your move Kamla.

right now kamla lock sheself in d toilet shittin bricks..

I was telling my father last night something coming. I hearing too much random almost trivial snippets of comess...like is a diversionary tactic. The "rogue media elements" ting just come outta no where....and now we see why.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: mukumsplau on March 27, 2013, 03:16:02 PM
Your move Kamla.

right now kamla lock sheself in d toilet shittin bricks..

I was telling my father last night something coming. I hearing too much random almost trivial snippets of comess...like is a diversionary tactic. The "rogue media elements" ting just come outta no where....and now we see why.

she would say it hav rogue elements in Reuteurs
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on March 27, 2013, 03:19:33 PM
Kamla met the FBI boss last month and the US Attorney General at the CARICOM meeting in Haiti.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: boss on March 27, 2013, 03:28:18 PM
Jennings: What I told the FBI about the FIFA crooks (Wired868)
http://www.wired868.com/2013/03/27/jennings-what-i-told-the-fbi-about-the-fifa-crooks/  :beermug:

EDIT: Full article from Jennings' Transparency in Sport Blog
http://transparencyinsportblog.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/what-i-told-the-fbi-about-the-fifa-crooks/

Transparency in Sport News
What I told the FBI about the FIFA crooks
March 27, 2013 · by Andrew Jennings

THE REVELATION that the FBI is investigating FIFA should bring an end to three decades of institutional corruption, personified in recent times by President Sepp Blatter. I have been talking with Special Agents from the Organised Crime and Racketeering Section of the Department of Justice in Washington and with an FBI Organised Crime squad from New York since they contacted me seeking evidence nearly three years ago.

Law enforcement sources in New York and Washington confirmed today that they are investigating “a major case” involving allegations of corruption at FIFA. The probe is into allegations of fraud and bribery. It began in the North, Central American and Caribbean regional football confederation but the money trail leads back to FIFA’s HQ in Zurich, Switzerland. Unofficial sources have confirmed that Daryan Warner, eldest son of disgraced former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner of Trinidad, has become a co-operating witness with the FBI probe. Warner jnr has been resident in Florida for the last two months and clearly is not free to leave America. It has yet to be divulged what evidence the FBI have on him but it is likely to be substantial and enough to make him break family confidences in return for serving less jail time.

Daryan Warner was always the ‘back office’ money-man organising the laundering and concealment of bribes and profits from every kind of illicit football activity by his father – siphoning off grants, dealing in World Cup tickets and pocketing substantial bribes from countries hoping to host the World Cup. Warner frequently worked in concert with fellow FIFA executive committee member Chuck Blazer from New York.

The FIFA career of Jack Warner began to unravel in May 2011 when he was caught with $1 million in bribes, in envelopes each containing $40,000 in cash, for distributing to Caribbean football associations. The aim was to persuade them to vote for Qatar’s Mohamed Bin Hammam who was contesting the FIFA presidency against incumbent Sepp Blatter. Blazer ‘ratted’ on Warner to FIFA but was himself soon engulfed in documented corruption allegations

Where will the FBI investigation go next? For a start, they are not alone. For 18 months there have been parallel investigations by America’s tax authorities, the Internal Revenue Service. The secret probes range from Port of Spain to Trump Tower to Cayman, Paradise Island to Miami, Zurich to Zug and much further to the Gulf. They have co-operated with police in London and Switzerland.

The industrial-scale thieving of Warner and Blazer is woven into the fabric of FIFA. Repeatedly, the gruesome duo were encouraged to plunder grants and World Cup tickets. In return they delivered votes to keep Blatter in power. Football lovers must dream that the G-Men will find reasons to extend their investigations into Issa Hayatou’s African empire and the rest of FIFA.

As the FBI spreads its net, FIFA officials in Zurich should be seeking advice from their personal lawyers about what to say if the Feds come knocking. If they have handled corrupt payments authorised by Blatter or General Secretary Jerome Valcke, they may find it wise to followDaryan Warner’s example and become collaborating witnesses rather than risk extradition and jail.

Honest FIFA staff could volunteer more names. It would be unfair if only Warner and Blazer were held to account for the looting of FIFA. At any time in recent years up to half the FIFA ExCo were involved in dubious activities. The remainder, well-rewarded by Blatter with big fees, expenses and fistfuls of World Cup tickets, looked the other way, unwilling to hold their colleagues to account.

The FBI is also showing interest in the dubious decision to award the 2022 World Cup to Qatar. The Agents have acquired some very specific information – but that topic must be left for the moment. Another group of investigators, working alongside the FBI, is looking at one other big-ticket FIFA decision.

Following the disclosures in 2010 by journalists at Sunday Times Insight and BBC Panorama of corruption at the highest level of FIFA Blatter should have been evicted from power and his personal financial dealings probed. Instead he was allowed to get away with announcing ‘independent’ investigations, controlled by him.

These may now be irrelevant. Former US prosecutor Michael Garcia, selected by Blatter, promises to tell us soon what we already know about the $100 million kickbacks from ISL to ExCo members and Blatter’s involvement. The governance reforms suggested by Swiss professor Mark Pieth, also appointed by Blatter and now mostly ignored, are fizzling out.

The FBI investigations, combined with endless corruption scandals in Brazil, threatens the success of next year’s World Cup. In November 2010 I revealed in a BBC Panorama programme that Ricardo Teixeira, boss of Brazilian football, a member of the FIFA ExCo and former son-in-law of Joao Havelange, had trousered at least $10 million in contract kickbacks at FIFA. Eventually, a year ago, he was forced out of FIFA and Brazilian football.

It gets worse. Teixeira’s successor at the Brazilian federation, José Maria Marin, is implicated in the murder by the military dictatorship in 1975 of a former BBC journalist. In recent days Brazilian media has obtained tapes of Marin discussing dirty deals in football. The new chair of the Congressional Sports and Tourism Committee, former footballer Romario, has called for Marin to be jailed. Brazilians are becoming restless at the FIFA ripoffs, expected to pay the vast bill for staging the World Cup while watching a record $5 billion profit disappear back to Zurich.

Sao Paulo cops, investigating the theft of confidential government information, raided the home of Marco Polo Del Nero, Teixeira’s successor at FIFA’s ExCo, in November. Del Nero, 70, claimed he was checking his 28- year-old model girlfriend Carolina Galan was not being unfaithful.

SINCE CHRISTMAS the bloggers of Trinidad have been shouting to the world that Daryan Warner, son of Jack, had been arrested at Miami airport carrying a bag of cash. Depending who you read, it started at $100,000 and escalated as high as $750,000. Some said that Jack’s other son, Daryl Warner was also detained. In early March the cautious mainstream Trinidad media, despite threats from Jack Warner, began publishing stories about ‘the son of a Cabinet member’ under arrest in Miami, accused of money laundering.

Now they are vindicated. One by-product of the scandal may be to terminate the increasingly absurd administration of Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar. Despite Warner hurriedly quitting FIFA ahead of corruption investigations she appointed him to take charge of the police (yes, really) and the army (Yes!) and has denied for weeks knowing about the arrest of Daryan.

Because Warner spent millions of dollars buying success at the polls for her UNC party Kamla has given him a free hand to persecute opponents and appoint incompetent loyalists to well-paid government jobs. The latest disclosures in corrupt Trinidad politics is that Warner has secretly created his own tax-payer funded squad of Ton Ton Macoutes.

If the Feds decide to extradite Warner they face a tough task. If he surrounds himself with cops and soldiers the squad that took out Bin Laden may be needed.

THE NEXT VICTIM of the FBI investigation may be the Financial Times newspaper. It runs business conferences and has just announced a ‘Business of Football Summit‘ in Rio in June.  Top of the bill will be FIFA president Blatter.

It will be embarrassing if Blatter turns up and equally bad if he is detained elsewhere. And it’s an altogether strange affair. In the shadows, available to FT clients, will be lurking a dark arts operative who boasts of hacking bank accounts and phones.

Organising the event for the FT at the Copacabana Palace hotel is Zurich-based company International Football Arena who stage footie conferences where uncritical reporters, club owners and potential sponsors pay to mingle with Blatter. His PR-man Peter Hargitay does the introductions and his son Stevie does meet ‘n’ greet at the front door.

On the FT conference website Stevie is listed as ‘Sponsorship contact.’ On his Twitter account Stevie describes himself as a ‘Cunning Linguist‘ – whatever that means – and movie producer. The latest Hargitay epic, Chicks dig Gay Guys - with added artistic nudity – has been scheduled for release for the last two years. A screening may be part of the Rio entertainment. The movie message is, pretend to be a male homosexual and the ‘chicks’ strip off fast. The FT provides for every need.

Chairing the conference is FT Sports Correspondent Roger Blitz who has a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to ask Keynote speaker Blatter to come clean about the FBI investigation and how $100 million in contract kickbacks from a marketing company was laundered through Liechtenstein to FIFA’s leaders.

On a more personal level, Blitz could inquire, did Blatter’s heart miss a beat on March 3, 1997 when he discovered a one million Swiss Francs bribe to Rio resident and former FIFA president Joao Havelange being laundered through a FIFA account?

Blitz could also invite the shifty Peter Hargitay to reveal to the 200-strong audience the names of the FIFA officials he planned to bribe with the £4 million he asked the English FA to give him to win their bid to host the World Cup. The Swiss-Hungarian conman could also entertain with tales of his seven months banged up in Miami before being cleared of cocaine trafficking.

As the bribes scandal began to take off in 2002, Blatter hired Peter Hargitay to poison the wells of English journalism. Hargitay boasts that he can divert reporters from clients’ problems. He did a great job in London. The sports news reporters universally ignored the ISL scandal.

The IFA conference organisers can be found in a modest Zurich villa in Lavaterstrasse.  Under the same roof is one of Hargitay’s many businesses, private detective agency AB Investigations, where he has been billed as a Managing Partner.

ABI promises clients ‘government-level surveillance,’ and ‘special covert operation assignments’ and where needed, ‘physical intervention on behalf of corporate clients.’ A previous Hargitay business at this address promised it could hack bank accounts. Is this the kind of service the FT is offering its customers?

IT’S BEEN A LONG WAIT for the Feds to make their move. A meeting with Special Agents at Birmingham New Street station in November 2011 had to be aborted. Another time tickets were reserved for a big game at Wembley – some of the G-men are serious football fans – but that trip was cancelled. In the years that we communicated I handed over documents proving that FIFA leaders had received kickbacks on contracts and pointed them to sources with firsthand knowledge. We engaged in lengthy phone calls and exchanged maybe 100 emails.

After I told them about confidential information available in Switzerland they contacted Swiss criminal authorities under the Mutual Assistance Treaty. During a conference in Miami in 2010, where I addressed law enforcement officials about FIFA corruption and the evidence that FIFA operated as an Organised Crime Family, I had discussions with a senior IRS counsel. Prior to this widely advertised conference the organisers and I were threatened by FIFA lawyers.

The last time I met face to face with the FBI was in a private office close to their London embassy in the week before the London Olympics. Again, I was able to give them crucial documents.

Later they told me that one of the documents was ‘particularly useful for their purposes.’ This was a list of bribes implicating several leading FIFA officials. They promised that ‘while the judicial process may seem glacial, things are ‘progressing.’

The IOC could face embarrassment. After I revealed in a November 2010 BBC Panorama programme that Havelange had taken bribes at FIFA, the IOC began the process that forced the old crook to resign. But they shied away from the unequivocal evidence that Blatter handled the bribe that shamed Havelange. Will they now crank up a Blatter investigation before the FBI do it for them?

For the last two years, while Blatter has been persuading gullible journalists to publish uplifting stories about his “roadmap for reform,” investigators from Federal agencies in Washington and New York have been assembling evidence of corruption in World Cup voting.

The possibility of a re-run of both the 2018 and 2022 votes cannot be ruled out. If bribery can be proved on one vote, it taints the other. One problem staging a new vote could be that some senior FIFA officials may be reluctant to leave their own countries, fearing they may be named in sealed indictments in New York and be arrested as they transit through airports. This happened during the 1999 Salt Lake scandal at the IOC. When an American government official turned up in Lausanne surrounded by armed US Marshalls some IOC members feared they would be arrested and shipped to the Utah dungeons.

Blatter’s choreographed FIFA Congress in Mauritius at the end of May looks shaky. If the Feds are working in the background, its hard to take this expensive reward to the Blatter faithful seriously. If he is free to attend, Blatter will pretend all is well, the Feds are just a blip. He’s staging it in a location too expensive for most foreign and experienced media. If he’s not free to attend, the consequences are too wonderful to predict at this time.

The English FA will soon appoint a new chairman. Will Greg Dyke be the man to stand up, shout ‘stinking fish’ and demand genuine reform?

Additional research: Karrie Kehoe
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 27, 2013, 03:49:31 PM
Kamla met the FBI boss last month and the US Attorney General at the CARICOM meeting in Haiti.

Leh we not insinuate... was it a casual meeting or did they interview her specifically related to this? 

At any rate, there's a chance that Jack might tangentially be implicated in some wire-fraud thing, parsing thru all of this... but it seems that Blazer (and tax evasion) might be the real target of the probe.  Before Asylumseeker come saying some kinda assness about me defending Jack/Daryan... I just preaching caution so that people doh get they hopes up.  If de mark buss and Jack emerges unscathed/with a slap on the wrist, be ready for that, because it is a distinct possibility.

-------------

As for Jennings... steups.  Take all that ranting with a grain of salt.

He starting to sound as madcap and conspiratorial as Trinidad's resident football expert, Football Supporter.  Must be something about the English cow milk they drink as children.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Deeks on March 27, 2013, 04:01:45 PM
I just preaching caution so that people doh get they hopes up.  If de mark buss and Jack emerges unscathed/with a slap on the wrist, be ready for that, because it is a distinct possibility.

I am not a lawyer, but I would suggest we curb or allyuh curb your enthusiam
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bourbon on March 27, 2013, 04:24:29 PM
I just preaching caution so that people doh get they hopes up.  If de mark buss and Jack emerges unscathed/with a slap on the wrist, be ready for that, because it is a distinct possibility.

I am not a lawyer, but I would suggest we curb or allyuh curb your enthusiam


I would tend to agree with this. De fact that they had enough leverage to engineer a plea deal is wha have me cautious. Jack eh taking nuttin else but something that would allow him to beat dis.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 27, 2013, 04:27:07 PM
Good, waiting to see how this unfolds.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 27, 2013, 04:47:15 PM
I would tend to agree with this. De fact that they had enough leverage to engineer a plea deal is wha have me cautious. Jack eh taking nuttin else but something that would allow him to beat dis.

Not a plea deal... 'cooperation' at this point.  They may not have enough to engineer a plea as you put it, but might be enough to convince the cooperating witness that he could be facing trial.  Some might agree to cooperate rather than undergo the risk, cost and embarrassment of trial... even if they know they could get off in the end.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on March 27, 2013, 04:57:46 PM
he jus a cooperating witness according to TV6 more to come
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on March 27, 2013, 06:08:23 PM
How come Jack Horner did not jump out his box yet.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 27, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
Good, waiting to see how this unfolds.

Ent ah told you it was coming and it was international...like yuh forget  lol  More to come...much more to come.  Word is some other minister (s) involved but ah eh see nutten concrete as yet....but more to come.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 27, 2013, 06:20:45 PM
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=51176.690

21st MaRCH  lol   more to come f**king more to come!
Title: Re: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 27, 2013, 06:36:31 PM
Good, waiting to see how this unfolds.

Ent ah told you it was coming and it was international...like yuh forget  lol  More to come...much more to come.  Word is some other minister (s) involved but ah eh see nutten concrete as yet....but more to come.

You was the first person that come to mind when is see the story. Ah waiting patiently.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 27, 2013, 06:42:41 PM
Good, waiting to see how this unfolds.

Ent ah told you it was coming and it was international...like yuh forget  lol  More to come...much more to come.  Word is some other minister (s) involved but ah eh see nutten concrete as yet....but more to come.

Your was the first person that come to mind when is see the story. Ah waiting patiently.


Yeah, I know a few things...I initially assisted Mark Bassant but he is ah asshole..f**k he....real reporters on this now...
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Football supporter on March 27, 2013, 07:25:31 PM
Kamla met the FBI boss last month and the US Attorney General at the CARICOM meeting in Haiti.

Leh we not insinuate... was it a casual meeting or did they interview her specifically related to this? 

At any rate, there's a chance that Jack might tangentially be implicated in some wire-fraud thing, parsing thru all of this... but it seems that Blazer (and tax evasion) might be the real target of the probe.  Before Asylumseeker come saying some kinda assness about me defending Jack/Daryan... I just preaching caution so that people doh get they hopes up.  If de mark buss and Jack emerges unscathed/with a slap on the wrist, be ready for that, because it is a distinct possibility.

-------------

As for Jennings... steups.  Take all that ranting with a grain of salt.

He starting to sound as madcap and conspiratorial as Trinidad's resident football expert, Football Supporter.  Must be something about the English cow milk they drink as children.

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Peong on March 27, 2013, 08:11:27 PM
Umm... Possible money laundering by a government minister using the Treasury and/or TTFF funds with the help of close family member(s). It should damn well be of national concern  >:(... Trinis take too much crap!!!

You and yuh little vex smiley face need to stop talking shit.  You don't know me or know what I know to be assuming that I taking "too much crap". If there is money laundering by "a government minister" then the inquiries should be made to said government minister.


That sounds like the most naive investigation ever.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on March 27, 2013, 08:13:25 PM
Your move Kamla.

She say she eh believin nutten d press say.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on March 27, 2013, 08:14:20 PM
Things is begining to fall apart is just a matter of time.

Mamalar take a drink gul one, two or maybe three  :beermug:

And Jack while you at it PNM cause that.

PNM abroad fault
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: palos on March 27, 2013, 08:17:52 PM
This is some real kinda soap opera/gangsta shit havin de son be de agent of downfall.

DAMN!  That's COLD yo.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy tho
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 27, 2013, 08:33:58 PM
Karma.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on March 27, 2013, 08:36:43 PM
This is some real kinda soap opera/gangsta shit havin de son be de agent of downfall.

DAMN!  That's COLD yo.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy tho

Palos this bring u out of the cold long time.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 27, 2013, 08:44:57 PM
Umm... Possible money laundering by a government minister using the Treasury and/or TTFF funds with the help of close family member(s). It should damn well be of national concern  >:(... Trinis take too much crap!!!

You and yuh little vex smiley face need to stop talking shit.  You don't know me or know what I know to be assuming that I taking "too much crap". If there is money laundering by "a government minister" then the inquiries should be made to said government minister.


That sounds like the most naive investigation ever.

Only because yuh doh understand what it is yuh reading.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 27, 2013, 08:45:24 PM
Is wetting after wetting! Hahaha
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: g on March 27, 2013, 09:07:34 PM
Makes you wonder what does Warner really have on the Prime Minister that she still will not remove him.

Is it even bigger than all of this?

To me the only method of damage control available to this administration to save creditability is to sever all ties with Warner but he remains as Minister and Chairman of the UNC. I wonder how grassroots UNC supporters really feel about this?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on March 27, 2013, 09:20:40 PM
Makes you wonder what does Warner really have on the Prime Minister that she still will not remove him.

Is it even bigger than all of this?

To me the only method of damage control available to this administration to save creditability is to sever all ties with Warner but he remains as Minister and Chairman of the UNC. I wonder how grassroots UNC supporters really feel about this?

D grassroot UNC supporter eh like Jack but is we time now. So they good
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Peong on March 27, 2013, 09:32:55 PM
Umm... Possible money laundering by a government minister using the Treasury and/or TTFF funds with the help of close family member(s). It should damn well be of national concern  >:(... Trinis take too much crap!!!

You and yuh little vex smiley face need to stop talking shit.  You don't know me or know what I know to be assuming that I taking "too much crap". If there is money laundering by "a government minister" then the inquiries should be made to said government minister.


That sounds like the most naive investigation ever.

Only because yuh doh understand what it is yuh reading.

Of course.  Good ting you not conductin the investigation.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 27, 2013, 10:02:36 PM
Of course.  Good ting you not conductin the investigation.

Follow the conversation and you'll see I was referring to Daryan Warner and whether he was obligated to answer Basant's questions... not a reference to any "investigation".  Good thing your survival doesn't depend on your ability to read for comprehension.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Peong on March 27, 2013, 11:13:06 PM
Of course.  Good ting you not conductin the investigation.

Follow the conversation and you'll see I was referring to Daryan Warner and whether he was obligated to answer Basant's questions... not a reference to any "investigation".  Good thing your survival doesn't depend on your ability to read for comprehension.

Ever heard of investigative reporting? 
Daryan Warner is one part of this whole thing, they did a good job by seeking him out. 
How much info yuh think they will get from Jack?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Football supporter on March 27, 2013, 11:37:48 PM
Karma.

Nah....is Kamla  :rotfl:
Title: Jack son, the snitch
Post by: Sam on March 28, 2013, 04:33:24 AM
Jack son, the snitch and allyuh know what does happen to snitches.


Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sam on March 28, 2013, 04:38:42 AM
PM SEEKS CONFIRMATION
By Newsday Staff Thursday, March 28 2013


International news agency Reuters has identified Daryan Warner, son of Minister of National Security and former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner, as a “cooperating witness” in a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) probe into alleged corruption in international football.

The Reuters report said Warner, the National Security Minister, has not been charged with any wrongdoing. However, it said that since 2011, the FBI had been examining US$500,000 (TT$3.2 million) in payments made over a 20-year period by the Caribbean Football Union (CFU), of which Warner was once president, to an offshore company headed by US football official Chuck Blazer.

Blazer resigned as general secretary of the Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Football Association (Concacaf) in December 2011 but remains an executive committee member until May. Warner was previously the head of CFU and Concacaf, as well as FIFA vice-president.

Responding to the Reuters story, “FBI has co-operating witness for soccer fraud probe: sources”, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar last evening said she would not rely on published reports in the media and would seek official confirmation.

In a statement issued by the Office of the Prime Minister at 6.40 pm, Persad-Bissessar said, “I will not rely on published reports in the media, but will again seek to get official corroboration of the information now in the public domain before making any determination or pronouncement.”

The Reuters exclusive report by journalist Mark Hosenball was picked up by other media outlets in the US and locally. It cited unnamed US law enforcement sources as indicating that the probe into the transactions had “intensified” after a “key party” was cooperating as a witness.

The report identified Warner’s eldest son Daryan as the witness, but said sources declined to discuss Daryan’s role. It also said Daryan, who is in Miami, could not be reached for comment but noted a US official had disclosed Daryan was first interviewed by the FBI late last year after flying to the United States.

The report said a law-enforcement source declined to comment on who might be charged, or when this could happen. The report said the scope of the investigation was unclear.

It said the exact reasons for the US$500,000 payments were unclear but it cited statements made in 2011 by Blazer in which he said the money was repayment from Warner for a loan which was given in 2004. It also referred to Warner’s statement to local media that the payments were above board.

Law enforcement officials are quoted as saying that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) was part of the investigation, looking at potential violations of US tax laws and anti-fraud laws including laws against wire and mail fraud. An unnamed official is quoted as describing the investigation as “shaping up like a major case.”

Blazer was contacted by the reporter about the investigation and said he was advised by his lawyer not to comment.

Spokesman for the National Security Minister, Francis Joseph was quoted in the report saying that neither Daryan or Warner would comment on the matter.

Warner met yesterday afternoon with Persad-Bissessar but attempts to reach him on his mobile phone were unsuccessful up to press time.

Questioned by reporters on March 12 regarding a report on a minister’s son, Persad-Bissessar said she had “no information, advice or knowledge of any minister’s son in any circumstances abroad.”

Newsday contacted Mark Hosenball by email to seek more details on his report. Hosenball replied, “Unfortunately all I can say is the story speaks for itself. Can’t go beyond this.”

Warner quit FIFA and Concacaf in June 2011 in the wake of bribery allegations stemming from a visit to Port-of-Spain by then FIFA presidential candidate Mohamed Bin Hammam to lobby CFU members to vote for him against Sepp Blatter in FIFA presidential elections. It is alleged that Bin Hammam gave Warner packets containing US$40,000 to give to CFU members.

After his resignation, FIFA had declared Warner was presumed innocent, but banned Bin Hammam when FIFA ethics committee concluded its probe of the allegations. The Court of Arbitration for Sport overturned Bin Hammam’s ban saying the case had not been proven, although it found that Bin Hammam was “more likely than not” the source of the cash.

The Opposition had asked the police to investigate whether any TT Customs laws were breached over allegations that sums of money were brought into the country.

However, local police said they were unable to get evidence and the case was closed.

(FIFA reinstated its ban on Bin Hammam last December for a separate matter concerning “conflicts of interest” while he was president of the Asian Football Confederation.)

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on March 28, 2013, 05:06:25 AM


FBI wary of T&T’s security agencies


Published:


Thursday, March 28, 2013



DENYSE RENNE
 
 

Federal investigators in the United States said yesterday they will not be sharing any information on an ongoing probe involving a senior government minister and his son. Sources said both the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Internal Revenue Services (IRS) were reluctant to share information with local law enforcement because they do not have confidence in the integrity of the local national security agencies.
 
 
 
 
The sources pointed out that should the Government of T&T make any request on the status of investigations and the individual(s) involved in the investigation, the US is not obligated to share such information, especially as they deem the investigation, which includes money-laundering, tax evasion and fraud, a “top-priority” matter. The response to any T&T Government request could range from “no comment” to “the matter is under investigation,” sources added.
 
 
 
Should the US make an extradition request for any individuals who may be able to assist them with the case, such a request will fall under the Central Authority, which comes under the Office of the Attorney General. Contacted last week, head of the Central Authority, Netram Kowlessar, said the US had not made any extradition requests for any government minister or any relative of any minister. Asked whether any intelligence agencies had requested information on the minister or his relatives, Kowlessar also said no.
 
 
 
Asked what the response would be if such a request came, he said: “I cannot say, it will depend on the nature. The Central Authority also deals with mutual assistance.”
 
 
 
 
 
Last December, Daryan Warner, son of National Security Minister Jack Warner, was taken into custody in the US by the FBI in connection with an investigation the FBI was doing. At the time, sources close to Daryan Warner said he was assisting investigators in a tax matter. As the investigation progressed, the FBI, through a prosecutor, approached a judge and requested that a sealed indictment be placed on the case.
 
 
 
The probe, which has been taking place for the past three years, has seen FBI investigators visit several countries and several US states, including Virginia, Florida, New Jersey and New York.
 
 
 
 
 
US sources said yesterday they were not ruling out the possibility of an extradition request to T&T for individuals who might be able to help them with their case, since investigations are ongoing and will take time. With the sealed indictment in place, sources said, this will allow investigators to concentrate on the “other major players” in the investigations.
 
 
 
Also contacted on the matter yesterday was Ambassador to the US Dr Neil Parsan. Asked if he had contacted the FBI or IRS in connection with the reports surfacing yesterday that Daryan Warner had been detained in the US, Parsan said: “Why would I make such inquiries, and what’s the purpose of me asking?” He added that he had not made any attempts to inquire, but in light of the reports surfacing yesterday, he would “make an assessment” to determine his next step.
 


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Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sando on March 28, 2013, 05:12:48 AM
Daryan Warner will have to testify against daddy Jack Warner.

 :devil:

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 28, 2013, 05:25:43 AM
Put sources to the articles nah!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on March 28, 2013, 05:49:49 AM
come nah zulu, u should know better by now

http://guardian.co.tt/news/2013-03-28/fbi-wary-tt%E2%80%99s-security-agencies
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sam on March 28, 2013, 06:20:26 AM
Jack son is just a witness, he walking free.

I hate it, but its the truth.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on March 28, 2013, 06:43:24 AM
First local, then global, now she want official.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on March 28, 2013, 06:57:09 AM
dem hadda be some real serious files jack holding or our office holders have no shame or sense of decency
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on March 28, 2013, 07:20:08 AM
First local, then global, now she want official.

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sanchez on March 28, 2013, 07:49:36 AM
Keep in mind that any funds recovered, Daryan will get a percentage as "whistle-blower".  This is US Law.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bourbon on March 28, 2013, 08:07:50 AM
come nah zulu, u should know better by now

http://guardian.co.tt/news/2013-03-28/fbi-wary-tt%E2%80%99s-security-agencies

I wonder what could give them that kinda feeling boy?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on March 28, 2013, 08:22:19 AM
come nah zulu, u should know better by now

http://guardian.co.tt/news/2013-03-28/fbi-wary-tt%E2%80%99s-security-agencies

I wonder what could give them that kinda feeling boy?

lol
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Peong on March 28, 2013, 08:23:12 AM
I know they sayin he's a cooperating witness but I don't see how Daryan will give up his dad.
It better to take a jail himself than to do that.  At least then his bread will still be buttered and the family will remain intact.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 28, 2013, 08:26:17 AM
Keep in mind that any funds recovered, Daryan will get a percentage as "whistle-blower".  This is US Law.

nonsense,,,he is not a whistle blower, he may be blowing some other things soon if he fails to continue cooperating though.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: dtool on March 28, 2013, 08:43:15 AM

You know Jack can take down the country/government/FIFA/...wow

HE WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR SURE!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 28, 2013, 09:14:25 AM
lock up the forker!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sanchez on March 28, 2013, 09:24:58 AM
Keep in mind that any funds recovered, Daryan will get a percentage as "whistle-blower".  This is US Law.

nonsense,,,he is not a whistle blower, he may be blowing some other things soon if he fails to continue cooperating though.

In the eyes of US Law, he is a whistle blower.  Doesn't matter if he is guilty or not.  There's a man in prison right now, serving 10 years, as soon as he get's out, he has millions waiting for him by the US Govt.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: g on March 28, 2013, 09:39:01 AM
What are chances of the US placing embargoes on T&T if the government continues to demonstrate non commitment to agreed treaties?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on March 28, 2013, 09:52:44 AM
What are chances of the US placing embargoes on T&T if the government continues to demonstrate non commitment to agreed treaties?
We sell gas to them. I doubt they would want to limit trade. However, we will and apparently have already began to pay the price regarding intelligence sharing.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: mal jeux on March 28, 2013, 09:55:54 AM
What are chances of the US placing embargoes on T&T if the government continues to demonstrate non commitment to agreed treaties?
We sell gas to them. I doubt they would want to limit trade. However, we will and apparently have already began to pay the price regard intelligence sharing.

this current gov't eh have any for dey self, must-less to share with anyone.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on March 28, 2013, 10:03:55 AM
The FBI and the IRS eh trust we local boys in blue.....and to make matter worse, the man heading up that Ministry has a son in the US helping the FBI investigate said fellow.  What the FBI and the IRS apparently doh know is that we had no choice to appoint this man.......he was suuupppeeerrrr Jack!!  Hardest wukking Minister ever to grace our shores.....

Which reminds me...... :thinking:  When last all yuh hear from Dinho??

Paging Dinho, paging Dinho....come een Dinho.....
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on March 28, 2013, 10:04:57 AM
who hack mal juex profile
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on March 28, 2013, 10:07:26 AM
The FBI and the IRS eh trust we local boys in blue.....and to make matter worse, the man heading up that Ministry has a son in the US helping the FBI investigate said fellow.  What the FBI and the IRS apparently doh know is that we had no choice to appoint this man.......he was suuupppeeerrrr Jack!!  Hardest wukking Minister ever to grace our shores.....

Which reminds me...... :thinking:  When last all yuh hear from Dinho??

Paging Dinho, paging Dinho....come een Dinho.....
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: behave nah woman.......he will respond when he done wit d pile ah walking dead episodes he watchin :D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on March 28, 2013, 10:18:28 AM
maybe dis time people will put more importance on electing a GOOD gov't or atleast pressure them in stayin as honest as we can.....because if dis merry go round continue the way it is d country dead
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: grimm01 on March 28, 2013, 11:00:18 AM
What are chances of the US placing embargoes on T&T if the government continues to demonstrate non commitment to agreed treaties?

The US have lots of leverage to exert without resorting to embargos. Remember when they wanted Dudus and the JA government drag their feet, the first thing the US did was start cancelling people visas; and not the visas of the pleebs but businessmen, high society, officials, entertainers etc.

Imagine if the US government declare our money laundering laws slack and add us to a international watch list, what kinda damage could that do to our banking sector and their ability to operate freely internationally? What would adding T&T to the State Dept travel warning list do for tourism?

They doh have to go after the government directly but there are any number of subtle ways to hurt the people around a government (re: the people funding & supporting the government) and have them exert pressure for the US.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on March 28, 2013, 11:17:17 AM
The FBI and the IRS eh trust we local boys in blue.....and to make matter worse, the man heading up that Ministry has a son in the US helping the FBI investigate said fellow.  What the FBI and the IRS apparently doh know is that we had no choice to appoint this man.......he was suuupppeeerrrr Jack!!  Hardest wukking Minister ever to grace our shores.....

Which reminds me...... :thinking:  When last all yuh hear from Dinho??

Paging Dinho, paging Dinho....come een Dinho.....
I saving this.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: boss on March 28, 2013, 11:39:19 AM
Post-cabinet press conference cancelled.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 28, 2013, 11:50:02 AM
Wetting after wetting after wetting!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on March 28, 2013, 12:01:15 PM
Post-cabinet press conference cancelled.  :beermug:

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sanchez on March 28, 2013, 12:14:59 PM
What are chances of the US placing embargoes on T&T if the government continues to demonstrate non commitment to agreed treaties?
We sell gas to them. I doubt they would want to limit trade. However, we will and apparently have already began to pay the price regarding intelligence sharing.

T&T selling gas to the US will be stopped very soon.  US will be exporting soon, they are now tapping into their reserves.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Peong on March 28, 2013, 12:41:19 PM
The FBI and the IRS eh trust we local boys in blue.....and to make matter worse, the man heading up that Ministry has a son in the US helping the FBI investigate said fellow.  What the FBI and the IRS apparently doh know is that we had no choice to appoint this man.......he was suuupppeeerrrr Jack!!  Hardest wukking Minister ever to grace our shores.....

Which reminds me...... :thinking:  When last all yuh hear from Dinho??

Paging Dinho, paging Dinho....come een Dinho.....
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: behave nah woman.......he will respond when he done wit d pile ah walking dead episodes he watchin :D

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 28, 2013, 01:11:52 PM
What are chances of the US placing embargoes on T&T if the government continues to demonstrate non commitment to agreed treaties?
We sell gas to them. I doubt they would want to limit trade. However, we will and apparently have already began to pay the price regarding intelligence sharing.

T&T selling gas to the US will be stopped very soon.  US will be exporting soon, they are now tapping into their reserves.

Not reserves per se...but fracking.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 28, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
Keep in mind that any funds recovered, Daryan will get a percentage as "whistle-blower".  This is US Law.

nonsense,,,he is not a whistle blower, he may be blowing some other things soon if he fails to continue cooperating though.

In the eyes of US Law, he is a whistle blower.  Doesn't matter if he is guilty or not.  There's a man in prison right now, serving 10 years, as soon as he get's out, he has millions waiting for him by the US Govt.

He is not a whistleblower.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 28, 2013, 01:16:20 PM
Keep in mind that any funds recovered, Daryan will get a percentage as "whistle-blower".  This is US Law.

nonsense,,,he is not a whistle blower, he may be blowing some other things soon if he fails to continue cooperating though.

In the eyes of US Law, he is a whistle blower.  Doesn't matter if he is guilty or not.  There's a man in prison right now, serving 10 years, as soon as he get's out, he has millions waiting for him by the US Govt.

Cooeprating with the Feds to prevent prosecution is reward enough and I do not think that falls under the whistle blower laws!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on March 28, 2013, 02:12:23 PM
Post-cabinet press conference cancelled.  :beermug:

Yuh lie!!!   :o :o :o :o

chups.....is Easter Weekend man, people haffi fly out.....well we know one fella eh going nowhere near the US or any US dependencies in this region...... :whistling: :whistling: :-X
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 28, 2013, 02:14:19 PM
Hahaha he land locked
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on March 28, 2013, 02:15:42 PM
Hahaha he land locked

Mih eh know if he even taking de chance and go Tobago..... ;D ;D

Oh lawd aye....I really eh know if to laugh or cry.....*sigh*
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Storeboy on March 28, 2013, 02:53:26 PM
Keep in mind that any funds recovered, Daryan will get a percentage as "whistle-blower".  This is US Law.
No way! He is not a whistle blower he is a witness seeking lesser punishment. Two different things! Which means he is still likely to end up in jail.  Just how long!. 
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: boss on March 28, 2013, 04:11:25 PM
Sampson Nanton on Twitter (‏@samnanton)
Office of the PM: "The Prime Minister has the common cold and her doctors have recommended bed rest for the Prime Minister."  :beermug:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bourbon on March 28, 2013, 04:16:21 PM
Post-cabinet press conference cancelled.  :beermug:


So last week anil roerts get he time to bray bout who he going and sue and this week it eh have nuttin to talk bout?


Sampson Nanton on Twitter (‏@samnanton)
Office of the PM: "The Prime Minister has the common cold and her doctors have recommended bed rest for the Prime Minister."  :beermug:

Puncheon might help I hear.
Title: Re: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 28, 2013, 05:21:58 PM
Sampson Nanton on Twitter (‏@samnanton)
Office of the PM: "The Prime Minister has the common cold and her doctors have recommended bed rest for the Prime Minister."  :beermug:

Lol conveniently
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: King Deese on March 28, 2013, 09:10:24 PM
Sampson Nanton on Twitter (‏@samnanton)
Office of the PM: "The Prime Minister has the common cold and her doctors have recommended bed rest for the Prime Minister."  :beermug:
Take 50 pills and doh call me in the morning.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sam on March 29, 2013, 05:14:09 AM
KEEP QUIET
Govt MPs advised to tell media ‘no comment’ on FBI probe on Warner
By Anna Ramdass


Members of the People’s Partnership Government have been asked to keep mum on media reports linking National Security Minister Jack Warner to a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) probe.

The Express understands that Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, who is also head of the National Security Council, has advised Government members that she was on top of the issue and was seeking official information on the matter.

Sources told the Express that an e-mail was issued yesterday by Leader of Government Business Dr Roodal Moonilal to all Government Parliamentarians which noted the Reuters report concerning the FBI probe and asked that no comment be given with respect to this issue as the Prime Minister had already released a statement.

Several calls to Moonilal’s cellphone went unanswered last night.

Persad-Bissessar did not chair yesterday’s Cabinet meeting.

A release from the Office of the Prime Minister stated that the Prime Minister had the common cold and her doctors have recommended bed rest.

Reuters, a reputable international news agency, in an exclusive report on Wednesday stated that the FBI was investigating alleged corruption in FIFA and named Warner’s son—Daryan Warner—as a cooperating witness.

The report noted that Warner was formerly head of the Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football (Concacaf), as well as Vice President of FIFA.

The report stated that since 2011, the FBI has been examining more than US$500,000 in payments made by the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) over the past 20 years to an offshore company headed by top US football official, Chuck Blazer.

The report noted that Warner during that period was also head of the CFU, a position he held from the early 1980s until 2011.

The Reuters report was based on information provided by US law enforcement sources.

On the heels of the Reuters report, the Prime Minister issued a release which stated, “I will not rely on published reports in the media, but will again seek to get official corroboration of the information now in the public domain before making any determination or pronouncement.”

A senior Government official told the Express yesterday that the Reuters report was based on unnamed law enforcement sources and therefore it would be inappropriate for any Government member to speak on the issue without facts.

Another source said that the issue was “nothing new” as allegations were levelled against Warner before and to date no charges have been laid against him or any member of his family.

The Express understands further that the majority of Warner’s colleagues were rallying behind him and have lent their support.

However, members of the Congress of the People (COP) had previously made their position on Warner clear—that he should not sit in the Cabinet until the allegations against him were cleared.

The Express was told that the issue was not officially discussed at yesterday’s Cabinet meeting but there were informal talks about it.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on March 29, 2013, 10:34:33 AM
Post-cabinet press conference cancelled.  :beermug:


So last week anil roerts get he time to bray bout who he going and sue and this week it eh have nuttin to talk bout?


Sampson Nanton on Twitter (‏@samnanton)
Office of the PM: "The Prime Minister has the common cold and her doctors have recommended bed rest for the Prime Minister."  :beermug:

Puncheon might help I hear.

Apparently she recover fast enough to tour Powergen during the power outage this morning.....when ah tell all yuh this is worst firetrucking bunch I have ever come across...... :cursing: :cursing: :bs: :bs: :banginghead: :frustrated:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bourbon on March 29, 2013, 02:10:29 PM
Post-cabinet press conference cancelled.  :beermug:


So last week anil roerts get he time to bray bout who he going and sue and this week it eh have nuttin to talk bout?


Sampson Nanton on Twitter (‏@samnanton)
Office of the PM: "The Prime Minister has the common cold and her doctors have recommended bed rest for the Prime Minister."  :beermug:

Puncheon might help I hear.

Apparently she recover fast enough to tour Powergen during the power outage this morning.....when ah tell all yuh this is worst firetrucking bunch I have ever come across...... :cursing: :cursing: :bs: :bs: :banginghead: :frustrated:


She was so on top of tings..she tour powergen about 3 hours before the power outage happen....imagine how bad it woulda be if she wasnt prepared. De blackout happen 0037........and note the time of the clocks in the background in the pics put up by the PM and her team working hard during the PM's tour:
(http://rhodabharath.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/power-outage-1.jpg?w=400&h=196)
(http://rhodabharath.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/power-outage-2.jpg?w=300&h=165)

(http://rhodabharath.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/poweroutage3.jpg?w=300&h=199)

(http://rhodabharath.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/poweroutage4.jpg?w=300&h=237)

http://eternalpantomime.com/2013/03/29/clocks-and-current/


Just when yuh feel we reach rock bottom....dem does take out shovel and start to dig  :banginghead:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: mukumsplau on March 29, 2013, 02:11:43 PM
Post-cabinet press conference cancelled.  :beermug:


So last week anil roerts get he time to bray bout who he going and sue and this week it eh have nuttin to talk bout?


Sampson Nanton on Twitter (‏@samnanton)
Office of the PM: "The Prime Minister has the common cold and her doctors have recommended bed rest for the Prime Minister."  :beermug:

Puncheon might help I hear.

Apparently she recover fast enough to tour Powergen during the power outage this morning.....when ah tell all yuh this is worst firetrucking bunch I have ever come across...... :cursing: :cursing: :bs: :bs: :banginghead: :frustrated:

make me better..
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/saudu/kampray2.jpg)

im back bitches
(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/5461_10151502655189798_407115129_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: elan on March 29, 2013, 02:16:58 PM





(http://rhodabharath.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/poweroutage3.jpg?w=300&h=199)
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Bad man siddung talking to the Prime Minister yes.   :-\
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: elan on March 29, 2013, 02:19:01 PM
Is this a family business  ???

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/5461_10151502655189798_407115129_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Fyzoman on March 29, 2013, 02:22:42 PM
Is this a family business  ???

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/5461_10151502655189798_407115129_n.jpg)

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

My forumites boy :)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 29, 2013, 02:35:12 PM
She have the flu. Look how sick she looking. Lol
Title: Re: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 29, 2013, 02:36:17 PM
Post-cabinet press conference cancelled.  :beermug:


So last week anil roerts get he time to bray bout who he going and sue and this week it eh have nuttin to talk bout?


Sampson Nanton on Twitter (‏@samnanton)
Office of the PM: "The Prime Minister has the common cold and her doctors have recommended bed rest for the Prime Minister."  :beermug:

Puncheon might help I hear.

Apparently she recover fast enough to tour Powergen during the power outage this morning.....when ah tell all yuh this is worst firetrucking bunch I have ever come across...... :cursing: :cursing: :bs: :bs: :banginghead: :frustrated:

make me better..
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/saudu/kampray2.jpg)

im back bitches
(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/5461_10151502655189798_407115129_n.jpg)

Hahaha
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: g on March 29, 2013, 02:39:48 PM
I eh feelin d dress. It looking like a duster
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: giggsy11 on March 29, 2013, 02:47:11 PM
I eh feelin d dress. It looking like a duster

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on March 29, 2013, 02:48:39 PM
I eh feelin d dress. It looking like a duster

Well she was on "bed rest" recovering from the cold.  So I guess she roll out of bed and straight down by Powergen??..... ??? :-\
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 29, 2013, 03:43:46 PM
Poor woman.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on March 29, 2013, 04:45:21 PM
Is this a family business  ???

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/5461_10151502655189798_407115129_n.jpg)
I was wondering the same thing, it kinda remind me of the fire department here in NYC, is only ah set ah irish and italian, very little to no diversity.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 29, 2013, 06:02:04 PM
(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562162_10151527642968209_477575639_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: mukumsplau on March 29, 2013, 06:04:59 PM
Is this a family business  ???

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/5461_10151502655189798_407115129_n.jpg)
I was wondering the same thing, it kinda remind me of the fire department here in NYC, is only ah set ah irish and italian, very little to no diversity.

thats the estate for you
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 29, 2013, 09:21:38 PM
Kevin real let he f**king self go boy... he was always chubby but now like he living ah li'l too rich fuh heself.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: coache on March 29, 2013, 09:42:06 PM
I don't know why de FBI  makin dis big "Grand Charge" ..at de end a de day Jack and Jackson walkin scotch free and de yankee fella too, dem Fifa boys bigger than de FBI..I wish that Jack could be imprisoned for treason ...but that wouldn't happen. He'd be talked about in Trinidad's history 20yrs from now as one of our stalwart leaders right up there with Williams,Capildeo,Panday,Shah,O'Hollaran, and de rest.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on March 30, 2013, 12:36:23 AM
ALLYUH  look at Mamalar good she realy looking like Sarah Palein on facking steriods even the facking smile look fake .
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on March 30, 2013, 06:06:39 AM
Kevin real let he f**king self go boy... he was always chubby but now like he living ah li'l too rich fuh heself.
You should see Tim, Suruj and Roodal condition. Suruj look like he carrying a full sized person in he belly. Oh yeah, Anand doesn't have a neck anymore.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: jimbo on March 30, 2013, 07:16:16 AM
dem Indian not easy nah...Papayo!! ;D
Title: Re: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on March 30, 2013, 07:42:50 AM
Is this a family business  ???

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/5461_10151502655189798_407115129_n.jpg)
I was wondering the same thing, it kinda remind me of the fire department here in NYC, is only ah set ah irish and italian, very little to no diversity.
Study electrical engineering.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Dumplingdinho on March 30, 2013, 10:04:31 AM
lol@ study electrical engineering.....is still we time.... ;D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 30, 2013, 11:01:18 AM
Kevin real let he f**king self go boy... he was always chubby but now like he living ah li'l too rich fuh heself.
You should see Tim, Suruj and Roodal condition. Suruj look like he carrying a full sized person in he belly. Oh yeah, Anand doesn't have a neck anymore.

"Eat ah food" gone amok.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on March 30, 2013, 02:23:58 PM
Is this a family business  ???

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/5461_10151502655189798_407115129_n.jpg)
I was wondering the same thing, it kinda remind me of the fire department here in NYC, is only ah set ah irish and italian, very little to no diversity.
Study electrical engineering.
I was only making light of it bc of elan's response, but if yuh want me to get serious i'll tell you this without reservation. i or the next man could study all they want, where ever or what ever profession indians dominate it is very hard to integrate, bc they look out for each other and shut other ethnics out.

forninstance road construction, when i lived in trinidad there was a lot of road work going on, the main contractors being mutilal moonan, amar and wimpey, wimpey was moreso building drainage systems and road ramps, while the other two was actually building roads.

wimpey hired anyone who was qualified (all ethnic groups) while moonan and amar had a 100% indian staff, couple of times i went seeking employment with both amar and moonan and was quickly put in my place that this was an indian only employment opportunity employer (even though they didn't say it to my face), and what's funny is that they were under govt contract.

so doh matter who else is qualified for this job, the ppl who runnin this job is indians, and when come time to hire or replace an engineer, bet yuh bottom dollar that it will be an indian coming in to replace another one, bc these jobs don't advertize in the papers, just like union jobs don't advertize in the papers, and only ppl on the inside would know that these jobs are available , and guess who would be applying for it, yes ah frien or a relative of one of these workers, nepotism in yuh coddasmont!!

lemme ask yuh this, yuh think anyone ah dem young indian boy found out about this job in the gaurdian?? yuh think they went through the rigors of applying for this job? i would bet anything that they were recommended by a relative or the friend of a relative.

there's no such thing as equality in this world, that's just ah civil word that ppl love to use to look good but seldom practice it.

wake up my yute and smell the juan valdez.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on March 30, 2013, 04:13:22 PM
Just Cool you doh fed up dred?? 
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: tempo on March 30, 2013, 09:47:37 PM
The arrogance and timing of this statement is astounding.


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Warner-I-will-not-be-crucified-200751041.html?m=y&smobile=y&clmob=y&c=n
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on March 30, 2013, 10:02:32 PM
Quote
Yesterday was the crucifixion. Today is not, and I will continue and I will do what I have to do. I have nothing to be afraid of and I sleep very soundly at night. If they get rid of Jack Warner today, tomorrow they go after somebody else and somebody else the following day. That is their modus operandi. That is what they want. I will not be in anyway at all assailed by what they are trying do in any way,” Warner said. “Like Mervyn Cordner, like Vernon De Lima, that too shall pass and after that has passed there will be others that they will raise, but I am not fazed, not in the least.

For a moment I thought he was referring to his (JW's) crucifixion (via media reports and current revelations etc.).

Jack is a borse. Sun Tzu eh have nutten on him.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on March 31, 2013, 02:58:26 AM
Just Cool you doh fed up dred?? 
Prove meh wrong nah?? the truth does sting like zooti!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Flex on March 31, 2013, 04:44:24 AM
UNCLE SAM SILENT
T&T Govt blanked for info on Warner probe
By Irene Medina Associate Editor


The Government has admitted to not being successful in obtaining information from United States authorities, regarding alleged Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Internal Revenue Service (IRS) probes into National Security Minister Jack Warner, through established diplomatic channels.

This was disclosed yesterday as both Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Dookeran and Attorney General Anand Ramlogan seek to get clear answers on serious allegations against their cabinet colleague.
And in a statement Prime Minister, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar said: “Unfortunately, whilst there has been great diplomatic cooperation, attempts to elicit further information and clarification have thus far not been successful.”

The PM also added that following the news story by Reuters on Wednesday that Daryan Warner, son of the National Security Minister, was a “cooperating witness” with the FBI into alleged corruption in international football, she immediately instructed the Foreign Affairs Minister to pursue the matter though diplomatic channels.

The Reuters article, written by Mark Hosenball and which was transmitted throughout the world, also indicated that the IRS had joined the investigation into possible violations of tax laws and wire and mail fraud, involving US$500,000 in payments by the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) over the past 20 years (the same period Warner headed the CFU) to an offshore company headed by US football official Chuck Blazer.

The Prime Minister said she “further directed the Attorney General to write his counterpart, the US Attorney General, Eric Holder Jr, directly to seek his personal intervention in the matter so that there can be official confirmation of the facts and circumstances surrounding the alleged investigation”.

Facing mounting pressure to take action against her Cabinet minister, the PM said, “It would be premature if not prejudicial for me to act without any official clarification or confirmation from the US authorities on this controversial and sensitive matter”.

Persad-Bissessar said she is committed to upholding the high ethical standards which the public legitimately and rightly expects of her Government, but said she was “equally mindful that the commitment to the rule of law requires balance and respect for the presumption of innocence”.

She has promised to make an informed decision in this matter once the facts are established.

The Prime Minister’s statement was issued hours after Ramlogan told the media at Phagwa celebrations at Tunapuna Hindu Primary School yesterday that he had in fact written to US Attorney General Holder and is awaiting a response.

Ramlogan admitted that “the Government has been exhausting all diplomatic channels with the United States Government” and that he had been in contact with the US Ambassador in Port of Spain, and T&T’s Ambassador to the US, Neil Parsan.

“These are very serious allegations that are swirling in the international and local media, but before one can act one must establish officially what the facts are,” he said.

The AG said when a response is forthcoming and when the facts are established, “ I have no doubt the Government will deliberate on the matter and take a position.”

“We appreciate the seriousness of the allegation, we appreciate the implications and ramifications of it, but we equally appreciate the fact that there is a presumption of innocence,” Ramlogan added.

“The media has gotten it wrong in the past, whether local or international, and a matter as serious as this, one must respect the principle of do unto others as you have them do unto you.”

Ramlogan warned it would be improper for the Government and the Prime Minister to act without official verification and confirmation of what the facts are from the government of the United States of America.
“If every time there is an allegation published you act without seeking verification, you’re going to run into serious problems,” he cautioned.

The AG is confident that the Prime Minister will take action in the matter once the facts are ascertained and pointed to her firing of former ministers and diplomats when it became necessary.

“In the past the Prime Minister has established a track record unlike previous prime ministers for acting on the fact and taking swift and serious action when necessary.

“We have the example of Mary King, we have the example of Herbert Volney, we have the example of Therese Baptiste-Cornelis, we have the example of Collin Partap,” he said, adding that no other government has done this.

Ramlogan said the “Government is well aware of the high level of moral and ethica standards it has set for behaviour in public office, but was equally aware that our commitment to the rule of law is one that will not allow us to act on the basis of what is published in the media without seeking official verification of the facts”.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Flex on March 31, 2013, 04:46:35 AM
Warner: I am not moving
Warner: I am being crucified
By Reshma Ragoonath


National Security Minister Jack Warner broke his silence yesterday, openly declaring that he had “nothing to be afraid of” as he dismissed calls for him to step down.

Warner, whose son Daryan is said to be assisting the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) in the United States in a matter relating to a corruption probe involving Fifa, spoke briefly with reporters during the Central Division first police youth clubs sports and family day at Edinburgh Recreation Grounds, Chaguanas.

The minister initially hesitated when approached by reporters, but later allowed questions.

Warner likened the attacks on him to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ which was marked by Christians on Good Friday.

He said, “I do not think you know of any other politician, who, for the last three years has been maligned and who has been crucified as I have been and the one objective in mind is to get rid of Jack Warner.”

This, as he responded to calls made on Thursday by Movement for Social Justice (MSJ) leader David Abdulah who called for Warner’s removal after media reports surfaced about the FBI/IRS probe.

Yesterday, Warner declared, “I doh have to respond to them. Yesterday was the Crucifixion, today (Saturday) is not, and I will continue and I will do what I have to do. I have nothing to be afraid of and I sleep very soundly at night.”

The minister said that he believed the attacks against him would not stop.

However, he said confidently, “I will not be in anyway at all assailed by what they are trying do in any way. Like Mervyn Cordner (who alleged the Flying Squad was revamped), like Vernon De Lima, that too shall pass and after that has passed there will be others that they will raise but I am not fazed, not in the least because I say again—that too shall pass away.”

He said there were those who believe that if they got rid of him “then you get rid of a major chunk or chink in the Government’s armour—I say, well fine.”

However, the minister hastened to add that if they got rid of him today, “tomorrow they go after somebody else, and somebody else the following day. That is their modus operandi. That is what they want.”

Yesterday’s sports and family day, which was also attended by acting Police Commissioner Stephen Williams and co-ordinated by Senior Supt Johnny Abraham, featured an entertaining march past from youth clubs in the Central Division including Caparo/Palmiste, Couva, Cunupia, Edinburgh 500, Brasso/Flanagin, Tabaquite, Caroni and Las Lomas.

Warner said he was pleased with the response by young people who have joined the police youth clubs. He said the clubs formed part of his ministry’s plan to reduce crime.

The minister, like Senior Supt Abraham, lamented the fact that girls were outnumbering boys at the clubs.

However, he said it was a national problem which needed to be investigated.

“Even in the schools, the classrooms, the exams, you see the girls outnumbering the boys and in the schools there are more female teachers than male. So it is not only a problem affecting the police youth clubs, it is a whole national problem which we have to treat and find the cause for and deal with. So it has to be done on a collective basis,” he said.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on March 31, 2013, 04:46:46 AM
Good stay silent. Jackie and them too smart.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: mukumsplau on March 31, 2013, 08:28:36 AM
Is this a family business  ???

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/5461_10151502655189798_407115129_n.jpg)
I was wondering the same thing, it kinda remind me of the fire department here in NYC, is only ah set ah irish and italian, very little to no diversity.
Study electrical engineering.
I was only making light of it bc of elan's response, but if yuh want me to get serious i'll tell you this without reservation. i or the next man could study all they want, where ever or what ever profession indians dominate it is very hard to integrate, bc they look out for each other and shut other ethnics out.

forninstance road construction, when i lived in trinidad there was a lot of road work going on, the main contractors being mutilal moonan, amar and wimpey, wimpey was moreso building drainage systems and road ramps, while the other two was actually building roads.

wimpey hired anyone who was qualified (all ethnic groups) while moonan and amar had a 100% indian staff, couple of times i went seeking employment with both amar and moonan and was quickly put in my place that this was an indian only employment opportunity employer (even though they didn't say it to my face), and what's funny is that they were under govt contract.

so doh matter who else is qualified for this job, the ppl who runnin this job is indians, and when come time to hire or replace an engineer, bet yuh bottom dollar that it will be an indian coming in to replace another one, bc these jobs don't advertize in the papers, just like union jobs don't advertize in the papers, and only ppl on the inside would know that these jobs are available , and guess who would be applying for it, yes ah frien or a relative of one of these workers, nepotism in yuh coddasmont!!

lemme ask yuh this, yuh think anyone ah dem young indian boy found out about this job in the gaurdian?? yuh think they went through the rigors of applying for this job? i would bet anything that they were recommended by a relative or the friend of a relative.

there's no such thing as equality in this world, that's just ah civil word that ppl love to use to look good but seldom practice it.

wake up my yute and smell the juan valdez.



on the estate you hear alot of "i aint working with no nigga"...and all the young and older negro heads will always let you know how hard they try to undermine you once you from the other race...you have to hold your nerve and your head as an african on the estate because its your bread and butter...it is real...sad, but real.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: socalion on March 31, 2013, 10:20:57 AM
Sad but true!! its a subject many are unwilling to talk about or simply choose to sweep under the  rug.... the present government is not  representative of our nations diversity, its clearly  obvious and evident .. even someone with jaded eyesight can see what going..!!!.... sad sad very disturbing ... 
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on March 31, 2013, 02:18:28 PM
Eh splau, i doh get me wrong eh, it have some real nice indian ppl out there bro, but they seldom come from the country, and i eh trying tuh push no separatism, but by God i met some horrible ppl from the country side that is ah far cry from the cool indian ppl i grew up around in town.

in the country have some real haters who only for indians like it eh have no other ethnicity on the island. yuh see dem, those are the ones who should never taste no kind of power bc they would misuse it and abuse it.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 31, 2013, 02:33:06 PM
Steups...I meet some real nice indians all over T&T...especially south

I meet some real dotish racists black people all over the world
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on March 31, 2013, 02:45:42 PM
Steups...I meet some real nice indians all over T&T...especially south

I meet some real dotish racists black people all over the world
Breds ah guess yuh miss the word "seldom"??

nice ppl all bout , facked up ppl all bout, but that's not the subject, we talking bout power in the wrong hands, and yeh ah know yuh go mention black ppl do it too and the PNM misgivings tralalalala, but some ppl do it far more than others and i have first hand experience in that regard.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: mal jeux on March 31, 2013, 03:05:52 PM
Steups...I meet some real nice indians all over T&T...especially south

I meet some real dotish racists black people all over the world
Breds ah guess yuh miss the word "seldom"??

nice ppl all bout , facked up ppl all bout, but that's not the subject, we talking bout power in the wrong hands, and yeh ah know yuh go mention black ppl do it too and the PNM misgivings tralalalala, but some ppl do it far more than others and i have first hand experience in that regard.

preach it sista!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on March 31, 2013, 03:12:09 PM
Steups...I meet some real nice indians all over T&T...especially south

I meet some real dotish racists black people all over the world
Breds ah guess yuh miss the word "seldom"??

nice ppl all bout , facked up ppl all bout, but that's not the subject, we talking bout power in the wrong hands, and yeh ah know yuh go mention black ppl do it too and the PNM misgivings tralalalala, but some ppl do it far more than others and i have first hand experience in that regard.

I could only shake my head sometimes at how some ppl like to make excuses for black racists in the PNM. LIke being black and bigoted less bad than being Indian/White and bigoted.

Having said that, I make no excused for the PP. They set theyself up good.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on March 31, 2013, 04:02:00 PM
Steups...I meet some real nice indians all over T&T...especially south

I meet some real dotish racists black people all over the world
Breds ah guess yuh miss the word "seldom"??

nice ppl all bout , facked up ppl all bout, but that's not the subject, we talking bout power in the wrong hands, and yeh ah know yuh go mention black ppl do it too and the PNM misgivings tralalalala, but some ppl do it far more than others and i have first hand experience in that regard.

preach it sista!
wha kinda disrespectful scene you on king??  ???
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sam on March 31, 2013, 04:19:07 PM
Steups...I meet some real nice indians all over T&T...especially south

I meet some real dotish racists black people all over the world

Them fail to realise that, good post.

Good and bad in every race.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on March 31, 2013, 04:19:13 PM
Steups...I meet some real nice indians all over T&T...especially south

I meet some real dotish racists black people all over the world
Breds ah guess yuh miss the word "seldom"??

nice ppl all bout , facked up ppl all bout, but that's not the subject, we talking bout power in the wrong hands, and yeh ah know yuh go mention black ppl do it too and the PNM misgivings tralalalala, but some ppl do it far more than others and i have first hand experience in that regard.

I could only shake my head sometimes at how some ppl like to make excuses for black racists in the PNM. LIke being black and bigoted less bad than being Indian/White and bigoted.

Having said that, I make no excused for the PP. They set theyself up good.

VB
If the PNM was as racist as you claim then mutilal moonan, amar, and all them farmers in central would not have prospered as they did under the PNM, bc believe it or not VB, the PNM did not one fack for niggers, especially niggers who are the staunches of PNMites, yes it have racist PNMites, but the government it self never deny no ethnicity opportunity during the PNM era!!!!!

all the economic progress indians made was not under the crown government, NAR or UNC govt, but rather the PNM!! this BS view that you have of PNM being racist is all in your mind and the minds of those indians who heard their grand parents spilling their racist guts,

bc in T&T as it stands indians are the most progressive race and owns 2/3 of the countries wealth, not only that but there's no race that is more klanish and isolated like the rural hindu indians, so stop crying foul bc allyuh have it cork!!! thanx to the mdafkn PNM!!

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on March 31, 2013, 04:22:16 PM
Steups...I meet some real nice indians all over T&T...especially south

I meet some real dotish racists black people all over the world
Breds ah guess yuh miss the word "seldom"??

nice ppl all bout , facked up ppl all bout, but that's not the subject, we talking bout power in the wrong hands, and yeh ah know yuh go mention black ppl do it too and the PNM misgivings tralalalala, but some ppl do it far more than others and i have first hand experience in that regard.

preach it sista!
And yeh, mr true trini why yuh doh show yuh arse under yuh real name instead of hiding like ah biatch behind your multiple alter egos yuh fackin coward!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on March 31, 2013, 04:29:18 PM
Steups...I meet some real nice indians all over T&T...especially south

I meet some real dotish racists black people all over the world
Breds ah guess yuh miss the word "seldom"??

nice ppl all bout , facked up ppl all bout, but that's not the subject, we talking bout power in the wrong hands, and yeh ah know yuh go mention black ppl do it too and the PNM misgivings tralalalala, but some ppl do it far more than others and i have first hand experience in that regard.

preach it sista!
And yeh, mr true trini why yuh doh show yuh arse under yuh real name instead of hiding like ah biatch behind your multiple alter egos yuh fackin coward!

ka-ka hole ent yuh did know it was me?  steups...who is de biatch now?   Stop yuh shit, is like is you alone had it rough...go f**k ah white ting and cool yuhself..yuh know dais yuh speciality....   ;)

Oh my name applies ...Get To F@ck  Out Of Here With That Bull Shit Asshole.  GTFOOHWBDSA  yuh ketch?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on March 31, 2013, 04:39:42 PM
Steups...I meet some real nice indians all over T&T...especially south

I meet some real dotish racists black people all over the world
Breds ah guess yuh miss the word "seldom"??

nice ppl all bout , facked up ppl all bout, but that's not the subject, we talking bout power in the wrong hands, and yeh ah know yuh go mention black ppl do it too and the PNM misgivings tralalalala, but some ppl do it far more than others and i have first hand experience in that regard.

I could only shake my head sometimes at how some ppl like to make excuses for black racists in the PNM. LIke being black and bigoted less bad than being Indian/White and bigoted.

Having said that, I make no excused for the PP. They set theyself up good.

VB
If the PNM was as racist as you claim then mutilal moonan, amar, and all them farmers in central would not have prospered as they did under the PNM, bc believe it or not VB, the PNM did not one fack for niggers, especially niggers who are the staunches of PNMites, yes it have racist PNMites, but the government it self never deny no ethnicity opportunity during the PNM era!!!!!

all the economic progress indians made was not under the crown government, NAR or UNC govt, but rather the PNM!! this BS view that you have of PNM being racist is all in your mind and the minds of those indians who heard their grand parents spilling their racist guts,

bc in T&T as it stands indians are the most progressive race and owns 2/3 of the countries wealth, not only that but there's no race that is more klanish and isolated like the rural hindu indians, so stop crying foul bc allyuh have it cork!!! thanx to the mdafkn PNM!!



JC I realize you are rather sensitive when it comes to racism except when it comes from Africans.

The PNM give enough free land to small islanders to ensure a black vote.
I meet enough of them.

I know of East Indians who put up with enough shiT in the civil service.
I talking from the 60s through the 80s.

My grandfather started off as a labourer and finished off his live with over a thousand acres. It was all WORKED for, not one damn thing came from the PNM except some grief because he was an MP with the opposition.

I will give Manning credit, he mitigated a lot fo that shi%.

They have black ppl in TT every bit as dotish and racist as the backward Indians. Yet both races always have some excuse for their ignorance.

As Sam and TT say they have good and bad in all races.
But this shameless rationale of trying to explain away why black ppl are racist - like some of them not ignorant and bigoted just like some Indians and whites.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on April 01, 2013, 06:01:56 AM
Look who talking bout sensitive!! VB you full ah shit!!

i does bun every ethnic group, and no one is safe from my tongue, not even my own dad!! i'm a truth teller, and if yuh doh like tuh hear the truth then doh read sh!t except comic books!

i notice every time i say anything remotely uncomplimentary about indians you does get yuh draws tied in ah knot, but when i bunnin black ppl or white folks you eh have shyte to say, it's almost like yuhs the minister of indian affairs, "say what yuh want bout anyone else but doh say shyte about indians".

 it used to be that the member called "trinidadian" and "potatoroti" held the post for ah while, but it looks like you beat them out tuh take the reins.  always bawlin when i say something.

 look two weeks ago i made a thread with tommy sootmayor doggin black woman to no ends, and i happened to agree with him, yeh i'm black and all the females in my family black including my mother and daughter, but yet i agree with what was said about them, even post the link for the world to see.

 so if i eh give ah fork bout my own flesh and blood where the truth is concern, what makes you think i give ah fork about you!! and how come you didn't come on and show you displeasure?? yeh bc i wasn't talkin bout indian ppl, that's why.

stop being like ah forkin jew where no one could ever say sh!t bout them, the truth is you hindus fackin suck!! your racist culture suck!! and your ppl suck!!! especially in trinidad and guyana!! yeh i fackin said it, and fack you if you don't like it bc it's the unadulterated truth!!

talking bout you grandfather work hard for his thousand acres!! my forep[arent build trinidad literally and it's economy when plantocracy was king before being replaced by industrialization, and eh even get as much as ah fackin sweety for it (dinner mint), they build the whole infrastructure of trinbago, bridges, tunnels, dry rivers, towns in east west north and south, hospitals both in south and north,

fack it the whole infrastructure of T&T, yet when the british brought your forparents here to cut cane, in order to divide the two cultures with the whites being the minority and wanting to hold on to power, they told allyuh that africans were lazy and allyuh swallowed it up and never ask a fackin question "who build all these thing that we behold including the barracks allyuh was staying in"?? yuh think the british build it??!! is we mdfker!!

yet up till today yuh does still hear indians "saying nigger lazy". allyuh bought into every thing the british feed allyuh, that's why there's still animosity and tension between the two communities.

yuh ever wonder why african, carib, arawak, taino and coco spanish does get along so well, but african and indians have this history of tug of war? well i'll tell you why!

 it's bc of the stinkin british propaganda putting a wedge between the two ppl, and your hindu whiteman loving culture believing every word! allyuh believe everything whitey tell allyuh bc whitey is allyuh God and allyuh hatred for nigger since back in india due the caste system only intensify it!

remember you not dealin with no duncey head bat, i'm ah well read mdfkr and i know more than you think! you might go on to say that JC hate indian just like potatoroti like to say, no i doh hate no body, i just doh like fackup ppl and i doh like haters!!

and it's funny that i could bun whites, and no whiteman on this board ever called me ah hater, jefferz, Eman,  worm, FS, west coast, superoli, NYWB even small mag who's ah biracial yute non ah dem, it even have times where NYWB agreed with me to my astonishment on some issues of inequality.

i also bun black ppl more than any other race here, where majority of the board is black with nuff afrocentrist on the board, man like zulu, super, meh boy shaka who introduce me to the board, ah think he goes by the name fari, and many more, but yuh doh here dem bawlin when i say shit about black ppl,

 but as soon as i say boo bout indian or PNM in the same breath, here comes VB talking bout "oh my grand father was a DLP and he know capeldoe and eric was ah dis and ah dat"  but eric gave allyuh the most opportunity of any ruler in T&T including the colonial govt, and the sad part is, he eh give we nayger not as mush as ah lot of land but allyuh hate eric so much.


yeh and dat land grab you talking bout that eric give outsiders, it was squatting land, nothing ligit! and there was no deed given, just the OK to live there.

panday on the other hand bring in tons of guyanese and give them citizenship and land with deed, why yuh doh talk bout dat for ah change?? 

look VB i gone, it doh make no sense me talkin to you bc you would believe what yuh want tuh believe anyway. yuh ah stubborn hard headed boy.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: pecan on April 01, 2013, 06:39:59 AM
the way this thread evolving it should get move to "General Discussion"
Title: Re: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on April 01, 2013, 07:28:21 AM
the way this thread evolving it should get move to "General Discussion"

Exactly.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: mal jeux on April 01, 2013, 07:29:18 AM
I vote for Just Cool getting her own board.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Mango Chow! on April 01, 2013, 07:42:27 AM
Steups...I meet some real nice indians all over T&T...especially south

I meet some real dotish racists black people all over the world
Breds ah guess yuh miss the word "seldom"??

nice ppl all bout , facked up ppl all bout, but that's not the subject, we talking bout power in the wrong hands, and yeh ah know yuh go mention black ppl do it too and the PNM misgivings tralalalala, but some ppl do it far more than others and i have first hand experience in that regard.

I could only shake my head sometimes at how some ppl like to make excuses for black racists in the PNM. LIke being black and bigoted less bad than being Indian/White and bigoted.

Having said that, I make no excused for the PP. They set theyself up good.

VB
If the PNM was as racist as you claim then mutilal moonan, amar, and all them farmers in central would not have prospered as they did under the PNM, bc believe it or not VB, the PNM did not one fack for niggers, especially niggers who are the staunches of PNMites, yes it have racist PNMites, but the government it self never deny no ethnicity opportunity during the PNM era!!!!!

all the economic progress indians made was not under the crown government, NAR or UNC govt, but rather the PNM!! this BS view that you have of PNM being racist is all in your mind and the minds of those indians who heard their grand parents spilling their racist guts,

bc in T&T as it stands indians are the most progressive race and owns 2/3 of the countries wealth, not only that but there's no race that is more klanish and isolated like the rural hindu indians, so stop crying foul bc allyuh have it cork!!! thanx to the mdafkn PNM!!



JC I realize you are rather sensitive when it comes to racism except when it comes from Africans.

The PNM give enough free land to small islanders to ensure a black vote.
I meet enough of them.

I know of East Indians who put up with enough shiT in the civil service.
I talking from the 60s through the 80s.

My grandfather started off as a labourer and finished off his live with over a thousand acres. It was all WORKED for, not one damn thing came from the PNM except some grief because he was an MP with the opposition.

I will give Manning credit, he mitigated a lot fo that shi%.

They have black ppl in TT every bit as dotish and racist as the backward Indians. Yet both races always have some excuse for their ignorance.

As Sam and TT say they have good and bad in all races.
But this shameless rationale of trying to explain away why black ppl are racist - like some of them not ignorant and bigoted just like some Indians and whites.

VB

   :bs:  :bs:  :bs:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on April 01, 2013, 07:42:30 AM
I vote for Just Cool getting her own board.
I hear yuh true trini, but why not vote for me to get my own talk show instead?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on April 01, 2013, 08:08:38 AM
Guys leh we dont loose this thread with Africans an Indians in trinbago ,this thread must be reserved for the  Jacksons.

What about starting a new discussion Africans , Indians racism their way of life in Trinbago because it need to be brought forward.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on April 01, 2013, 08:14:18 AM
Guys leh we dont loose this thread with Africans an Indians in trinbago ,this thread must be reserved for the  Jacksons.

What about starting a new discussion Africans , Indians racism their way of life in Trinbago because it need to be brought forward.
Doh worry nutten eh go mash up, just had tuh set the record straight with Vb and he foolishness.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on April 01, 2013, 11:14:06 AM
Look who talking bout sensitive!! VB you full ah shit!!

i does bun every ethnic group, and no one is safe from my tongue, not even my own dad!! i'm a truth teller, and if yuh doh like tuh hear the truth then doh read sh!t except comic books!

i notice every time i say anything remotely uncomplimentary about indians you does get yuh draws tied in ah knot, but when i bunnin black ppl or white folks you eh have shyte to say, it's almost like yuhs the minister of indian affairs, "say what yuh want bout anyone else but doh say shyte about indians".

 it used to be that the member called "trinidadian" and "potatoroti" held the post for ah while, but it looks like you beat them out tuh take the reins.  always bawlin when i say something.

 look two weeks ago i made a thread with tommy sootmayor doggin black woman to no ends, and i happened to agree with him, yeh i'm black and all the females in my family black including my mother and daughter, but yet i agree with what was said about them, even post the link for the world to see.

 so if i eh give ah fork bout my own flesh and blood where the truth is concern, what makes you think i give ah fork about you!! and how come you didn't come on and show you displeasure?? yeh bc i wasn't talkin bout indian ppl, that's why.

stop being like ah forkin jew where no one could ever say sh!t bout them, the truth is you hindus fackin suck!! your racist culture suck!! and your ppl suck!!! especially in trinidad and guyana!! yeh i fackin said it, and fack you if you don't like it bc it's the unadulterated truth!!

talking bout you grandfather work hard for his thousand acres!! my forep[arent build trinidad literally and it's economy when plantocracy was king before being replaced by industrialization, and eh even get as much as ah fackin sweety for it (dinner mint), they build the whole infrastructure of trinbago, bridges, tunnels, dry rivers, towns in east west north and south, hospitals both in south and north,

fack it the whole infrastructure of T&T, yet when the british brought your forparents here to cut cane, in order to divide the two cultures with the whites being the minority and wanting to hold on to power, they told allyuh that africans were lazy and allyuh swallowed it up and never ask a fackin question "who build all these thing that we behold including the barracks allyuh was staying in"?? yuh think the british build it??!! is we mdfker!!

yet up till today yuh does still hear indians "saying nigger lazy". allyuh bought into every thing the british feed allyuh, that's why there's still animosity and tension between the two communities.

yuh ever wonder why african, carib, arawak, taino and coco spanish does get along so well, but african and indied boy.

I hope you never eat another roti for the rest of your life.

May you choke on doubles.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on April 01, 2013, 11:58:16 AM
I vote for Just Cool getting her own board.
I hear yuh true trini, but why not vote for me to get my own talk show instead?

How I get in this?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on April 01, 2013, 12:25:21 PM
I vote for Just Cool getting her own board.
I hear yuh true trini, but why not vote for me to get my own talk show instead?

How I get in this?

JC is a woman??
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on April 01, 2013, 12:27:44 PM
If the PNM was as racist as you claim then mutilal moonan, amar, and all them farmers in central would not have prospered as they did under the PNM, bc believe it or not VB, the PNM did not one fack for niggers, especially niggers who are the staunches of PNMites, yes it have racist PNMites, but the government it self never deny no ethnicity opportunity during the PNM era!!!!!

all the economic progress indians made was not under the crown government, NAR or UNC govt, but rather the PNM!! this BS view that you have of PNM being racist is all in your mind and the minds of those indians who heard their grand parents spilling their racist guts,

bc in T&T as it stands indians are the most progressive race and owns 2/3 of the countries wealth, not only that but there's no race that is more klanish and isolated like the rural hindu indians, so stop crying foul bc allyuh have it cork!!! thanx to the mdafkn PNM!!

What kinda ignorant scene you really on dred... using the N-word like that?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on April 01, 2013, 12:32:42 PM
I vote for Just Cool getting her own board.
I hear yuh true trini, but why not vote for me to get my own talk show instead?

How I get in this?

JC is a woman??
Hahahaha, listen to you, the one who wants me to choke on ah roti or a doubles bc i speak the truth, now tell me who more come across like ah lil whiney b!tch!

BTW as God is my judge i had doubles for breakfast this morning from my "hindu" breddren, maybe if yuh did read this earlier yuh probably woulda get yuh wish yuh lil irrational racist brat!



PS muslims does make roti and doubles too you know, and in some instance better than hindus and their meats halal anyway, and they not no where as racist as hindus, even though my hindu breddren is ah real god send, and he knows how i feel about hindus.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on April 01, 2013, 12:34:26 PM
If the PNM was as racist as you claim then mutilal moonan, amar, and all them farmers in central would not have prospered as they did under the PNM, bc believe it or not VB, the PNM did not one fack for niggers, especially niggers who are the staunches of PNMites, yes it have racist PNMites, but the government it self never deny no ethnicity opportunity during the PNM era!!!!!

all the economic progress indians made was not under the crown government, NAR or UNC govt, but rather the PNM!! this BS view that you have of PNM being racist is all in your mind and the minds of those indians who heard their grand parents spilling their racist guts,

bc in T&T as it stands indians are the most progressive race and owns 2/3 of the countries wealth, not only that but there's no race that is more klanish and isolated like the rural hindu indians, so stop crying foul bc allyuh have it cork!!! thanx to the mdafkn PNM!!

What kinda ignorant scene you really on dred... using the N-word like that?
I was trying to make VB feel @ home since he uses the word quite frequently when limin wid his relatives and UNC friends.

BTW i've seen you use worst, so pls don't go there, just enjoy the ride and cool.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on April 01, 2013, 12:42:45 PM
I vote for Just Cool getting her own board.
I hear yuh true trini, but why not vote for me to get my own talk show instead?

How I get in this?

JC is a woman??
Hahahaha, listen to you, the one who wants me to choke on ah roti or a doubles bc i speak the truth, now tell me who more come across like ah lil whiney b!tch!

BTW as God is my judge i had doubles for breakfast this morning from my "hindu" breddren, maybe if yuh did read this earlier yuh probably woulda get yuh wish yuh lil irrational racist brat!

For a "well read" fella, you obviously missed mal jeux's post.

Glad yuh hindu bredren feed yuh. Share yuh insights with him how his race, culture and history facked up.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: FF on April 01, 2013, 12:47:12 PM
allyuh doh fack up the thread nah... allyuh ent have this same talk going on in General?

I does enjoy better over dey. Please and thanks.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on April 01, 2013, 01:03:28 PM
I vote for Just Cool getting her own board.
I hear yuh true trini, but why not vote for me to get my own talk show instead?

How I get in this?

JC is a woman??
Hahahaha, listen to you, the one who wants me to choke on ah roti or a doubles bc i speak the truth, now tell me who more come across like ah lil whiney b!tch!

BTW as God is my judge i had doubles for breakfast this morning from my "hindu" breddren, maybe if yuh did read this earlier yuh probably woulda get yuh wish yuh lil irrational racist brat!

For a "well read" fella, you obviously missed mal jeux's post.

Glad yuh hindu bredren feed yuh. Share yuh insights with him how his race, culture and history facked up.
One thing i'm not is ah hypocrite! i doh smile wid man and talk behind their backs.

my breddren knows how i feel about the racism in hinduism and he understands (@ least i think he do), same way i does dog black man who does go around menacing the society wishing them nothing but death and incarceration in his presences, so he knows i don't play favorites, and i guess that's what he likes about me.

unlike you who takes sh!t personal and wants ppl to suffer an excruciating death bc they don't pay homage to your religion, and how could i when your religion views me as lower than a dalit!

i'm nothing but a slave and a monkey worthy to be worked from sun up to sun down with no pay, and no chance to change that condition until i reincarnate into ah fackin dalit and go through the same thing over again until i become ah brahmin, fack you and what you believe i say!! and how could any self respecting black man like that deal?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on April 01, 2013, 01:06:31 PM
allyuh doh fack up the thread nah... allyuh ent have this same talk going on in General?

I does enjoy better over dey. Please and thanks.
FF this is not a derailment, plus this thread eh goin no where fast, calm down.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: mal jeux on April 01, 2013, 01:42:57 PM
Word is just cool going through menopause and the rants are due to hot flashes and the imbalance of estrogen.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on April 01, 2013, 01:57:31 PM
Word is just cool going through menopause and the rants are due to hot flashes and the imbalance of estrogen.
Yuh projecting or what??

normally when ah grown man go out his way tuh malign another man, is a definite sign of projecting his inefficiency onto others whom he desire to be like. doh worry hoss one day you will be like me, take time yueh.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on April 01, 2013, 02:39:42 PM
I vote for Just Cool getting her own board.
I hear yuh true trini, but why not vote for me to get my own talk show instead?

How I get in this?

JC is a woman??
Hahahaha, listen to you, the one who wants me to choke on ah roti or a doubles bc i speak the truth, now tell me who more come across like ah lil whiney b!tch!

BTW as God is my judge i had doubles for breakfast this morning from my "hindu" breddren, maybe if yuh did read this earlier yuh probably woulda get yuh wish yuh lil irrational racist brat!

For a "well read" fella, you obviously missed mal jeux's post.

Glad yuh hindu bredren feed yuh. Share yuh insights with him how his race, culture and history facked up.
One thing i'm not is ah hypocrite! i doh smile wid man and talk behind their backs.

my breddren knows how i feel about the racism in hinduism and he understands (@ least i think he do), same way i does dog black man who does go around menacing the society wishing them nothing but death and incarceration in his presences, so he knows i don't play favorites, and i guess that's what he likes about me.

unlike you who takes sh!t personal and wants ppl to suffer an excruciating death bc they don't pay homage to your religion, and how could i when your religion views me as lower than a dalit!

i'm nothing but a slave and a monkey worthy to be worked from sun up to sun down with no pay, and no chance to change that condition until i reincarnate into ah fackin dalit and go through the same thing over again until i become ah brahmin, fack you and what you believe i say!! and how could any self respecting black man like that deal?


Do you know my religion?

Your rantings would make me hysterical if I didn't know you serious.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Andre on April 01, 2013, 03:30:26 PM
UPDATE 1-Trinidad asks U.S. for information on FBI soccer fraud probe
(Adds further background, details of allegations)
By Linda Hutchinson-Jafar and Mark Hosenball (Reuters)


PORT OF SPAIN/WASHINGTON, April 1 (Reuters (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/1-trinidad-asks-u-information-fbi-soccer-fraud-210701041--sow.html)) - Under pressure from opposition politicians, the prime minister of Trinidad and Tobago said she had sought information from U.S. authorities about an FBI investigation into alleged corruption in international soccer possibly involving the Caribbean country's national security minister, a former vice-president of FIFA.

An exclusive Reuters report last week quoted U.S. law enforcement sources as saying Daryan Warner, the son of National Security Minister Jack Warner, has become a "cooperating witness" in the FBI investigation.

The sources have not said who might be charged, if anybody, or when. While the exact scope of the investigation is not clear, among the matters under scrutiny are two previously reported allegations involving Jack Warner, the sources said.

Warner is the former head of the Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Football (CONCACAF) and previously served as a vice president of FIFA, soccer's global governing body. He has not been charged with any crimes and has denied any wrongdoing.

While declining to comment on any aspect of the investigation, Warner, speaking to local media over the weekend, reiterated his long-standing denials of any wrongdoing and claimed he is being targeted by political opponents.

"I do not think you know of any other politician who for the last three years has been maligned and who has been crucified as I have been," said Warner, who accused his critics of seeking to weaken Trinidad and Tobago's three-year-old coalition government.

"The one objective in mind (is) to get rid of Jack Warner because there are those who believe that if you get rid of Jack Warner then you get rid of a major chunk or chink in the government's armor," Warner, who is head of one of Trinidad's four ruling political parties, said in comments shown on local television.
The investigation, which also involves the Internal Revenue Service, the U.S. tax agency, is looking into potential violations of American tax laws and anti-fraud statutes, including laws prohibiting wire fraud and mail fraud, the law enforcement sources said.

After the publication of the Reuters story about the investigation, opposition politicians in Trinidad and Tobago called for Warner, who as national security minister is in charge of Trinidad's military and police forces, either to resign or for Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar to dismiss him.

David Abdulah, the head of the Movement for Social Justice party, a former coalition partner of the government, urged the prime minister to remove Warner from office.

"If she does not, she will pay the political price for keeping him in the government," Abdulah said, describing the news reports on Warner as "very embarrassing" for the country.

Opposition Leader Dr. Keith Rowley also called on Warner to address the allegations.

Neither Daryan Warner nor a Trinidadian lawyer representing the Warner family have responded to requests for comment.

U.S. officials did not immediately comment on the Trinidadian government's statements that it is seeking information about the FBI investigation.

DIPLOMATIC CHANNELS

Persad-Bissessar said she has instructed Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Dookeran and Attorney General Anand Ramlogan to use diplomatic channels to obtain details about the investigation.

"It would be premature if not prejudicial for me to act without any official clarification or confirmation from the U.S. authorities on this controversial and sensitive matter," said Persad-Bissessar.

The exact scope of the FBI investigation is not clear, U.S. law enforcement sources have said.

However, the FBI has since 2011 been examining more than $500,000 in payments made by the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) over the past 20 years to an offshore company headed by U.S. soccer official Chuck Blazer. That was a period when Jack Warner was also head of the CFU, a position he held from the early 1980s until 2011.

The precise reasons for many of those payments is unclear. In 2011, Blazer said that the payments were meant to be repayments to him by Warner of "a significant amount of money" which Blazer said he loaned to Warner in 2004. Warner told the media in Trinidad that the payments were above board.

Blazer declined comment when contacted last week about the Reuters story.

Persad-Bissessar has repeatedly stood by Warner since he quit his FIFA and CONCACAF positions in June 2011 in the wake of allegations of bribery in a report by a lawyer commissioned by Blazer, a member of FIFA's executive committee and former general secretary of CONCACAF.

The report alleged that Warner collaborated with another FIFA vice president at the time, Mohamed Bin Hammam of Qatar, to bribe Caribbean soccer officials so that they would back a bid by Bin Hammam to become FIFA's president. Bin Hammam and Warner both have repeatedly denied the allegations.

Bin Hammam's U.S. lawyer, Eugene Gulland, said last week that while he had heard that U.S. authorities were investigating CONCACAF issues, Bin Hammam had not been contacted about the probe.

When Warner resigned his FIFA position, the organization declared that "the presumption of innocence is maintained" in his case.

FIFA said last week the Swiss-based organization was "unaware" of any FBI investigation related to the Americas and Caribbean. (Editing by Kevin Gray and Claudia Parsons)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: mal jeux on April 01, 2013, 03:44:49 PM
Word is just cool going through menopause and the rants are due to hot flashes and the imbalance of estrogen.
Yuh projecting or what??

normally when ah grown man go out his way tuh malign another man, is a definite sign of projecting his inefficiency onto others whom he desire to be like. doh worry hoss one day you will be like me, take time yueh.

put some ice in ah handkerchief and ress it on yuh bossom. it will help with the heat flashes and save us from your race related rants.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on April 01, 2013, 04:10:24 PM
Word on de streets is that Warmonga is really de cooperating witness...
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: mal jeux on April 01, 2013, 04:17:16 PM
Word on de streets is that Warmonga is really de cooperating witness...

you may be on to something. he's a super yank as well as a hindu, so according to jc he's the enemy and will try to bring down innocent black people
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: trini_stallion on April 01, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
All yuh talking all this race talk....jack warner is ah niggah...big lip tie tongue niggah...wuh ticket he on...not ah indian boat...besides that....under the Pandday regime...he kick he own ppl in dey ass...for instance Dole Chadee...he used to help ppl...yea he kill some ppl...but its businezss...ask ppl how much poor ppl he help...from all over Trinidad. Is de creoles he uplift and get kick in he ass.


Under de Manning regime who all yuh think finance de PNMf....is coolies...thdough opposition to power to opposition. ..is coolies pelting out de money...and that's ah fact...


But at de end ah de dayyy...all ah we like roti...all ah we like stew chicken and ah peleau...wuz all de race talk about.... I feeling hungry now...I going and eat some  rice and beans from some spic..back  to warner......YUH CYAHHHH RUN FROM UNCLEEE SAMMMM MR. WARNER...yuh meet yuh match!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Deeks on April 01, 2013, 07:53:51 PM
trini-stallion, PNM financiers were the Syrian/Lenanese/"French creole"/Muslims along the EW corridors. The race talk is now in the open. People are expressing their hidden feelings. Things they did not want to say since Independence. Maybe we really don't like one another. We just been tolerating each other for the past 50 yrs. Rwandans have beeen living together for hundreds of years. look what the do to each other. Yugoslavia was put together by the League of Nation after WW1. Look what happen to them. I honestly hpe we learn from their situation and don't end up like them.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on April 01, 2013, 08:41:49 PM
All yuh talking all this race talk....jack warner is ah niggah...big lip tie tongue niggah...wuh ticket he on...not ah indian boat...besides that....under the Pandday regime...he kick he own ppl in dey ass...for instance Dole Chadee...he used to help ppl...yea he kill some ppl...but its businezss...ask ppl how much poor ppl he help...from all over Trinidad. Is de creoles he uplift and get kick in he ass.


Under de Manning regime who all yuh think finance de PNMf....is coolies...thdough opposition to power to opposition. ..is coolies pelting out de money...and that's ah fact...


But at de end ah de dayyy...all ah we like roti...all ah we like stew chicken and ah peleau...wuz all de race talk about.... I feeling hungry now...I going and eat some  rice and beans from some spic..back  to warner......YUH CYAHHHH RUN FROM UNCLEEE SAMMMM MR. WARNER...yuh meet yuh match!

dred... if I remember correctly you's ah indian fella.  I doh care if yuh want to refer tuh yuh own people by de 'c'-word... but real talk, watch yuh fukkin mouth with this n-word talk.  Better yet, just shut tuh f**k up... one ah de people Dole Chadee kill was ah pardna ah mine, and he kill him just because de fella know is he who kill dat family in south or central wherever they was.  It had real innocent people that f**ker kill, so doh come with no f**king bullshit talk about is "businezss".  Hush yuh f**king mouth if yuh doh know what yuh talking about.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on April 01, 2013, 08:44:39 PM
is time to get d thread back on track, but we need to talk dis race shit out and get it off we chest or dis country will be doomed to d same shit politics and shit govt/s for an eternity and then some............but that is for another thread.....stop d derailment nah
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: coache on April 01, 2013, 09:41:00 PM
Just Cool ..yuh on another level..so it ha some critical tinkers in Trinidad..
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 01, 2013, 09:44:37 PM
trini-stallion, PNM financiers were the Syrian/Lenanese/"French creole"/Muslims along the EW corridors. The race talk is now in the open. People are expressing their hidden feelings. Things they did not want to say since Independence. Maybe we really don't like one another. We just been tolerating each other for the past 50 yrs. Rwandans have beeen living together for hundreds of years. look what the do to each other. Yugoslavia was put together by the League of Nation after WW1. Look what happen to them. I honestly hpe we learn from their situation and don't end up like them.

Were?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: davidephraim on April 02, 2013, 01:31:38 AM
Another dimension if you will. Is race as important as blood-type.  Is Blood-type not another level of family? and if so one that transcends, race, color, creed, heritage & parentage (to a degree)? 

Racism is a herd ting. A quality of those that have never left the Kampung!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: trini_stallion on April 02, 2013, 03:53:14 AM
All yuh talking all this race talk....jack warner is ah niggah...big lip tie tongue niggah...wuh ticket he on...not ah indian boat...besides that....under the Pandday regime...he kick he own ppl in dey ass...for instance Dole Chadee...he used to help ppl...yea he kill some ppl...but its businezss...ask ppl how much poor ppl he help...from all over Trinidad. Is de creoles he uplift and get kick in he ass.


Under de Manning regime who all yuh think finance de PNMf....is coolies...thdough opposition to power to opposition. ..is coolies pelting out de money...and that's ah fact...


But at de end ah de dayyy...all ah we like roti...all ah we like stew chicken and ah peleau...wuz all de race talk about.... I feeling hungry now...I going and eat some  rice and beans from some spic..back  to warner......YUH CYAHHHH RUN FROM UNCLEEE SAMMMM MR. WARNER...yuh meet yuh match!

dred... if I remember correctly you's ah indian fella.  I doh care if yuh want to refer tuh yuh own people by de 'c'-word... but real talk, watch yuh f**kkin mouth with this n-word talk.  Better yet, just shut tuh f**k up... one ah de people Dole Chadee kill was ah pardna ah mine, and he kill him just because de fella know is he who kill dat family in south or central wherever they was.  It had real innocent people that f**ker kill, so doh come with no f**king bullshit talk about is "businezss".  Hush yuh f**king mouth if yuh doh know what yuh talking about.

Yuh is ah illiterate?  Cacahole we from Trinidad...like yuh living abroad too long? The 'N' word. You miss my point by ah mile....it eh have nothing to do with race  padnah...at de end of the day  we are trinis. I doh understand how on an internet forum with maybe 2000 members all this race talk so prevalent.  This relly shows how backwards wereally are. Besides that I eh mean no disrespect by using de n word....matter ah  fact niggggah niggah nigggah...coolie cooolie cooolie.....yuh vex??? Well go and bend ah pipe for all I care...

Sorry yuh lost yuh brethren too. ..I'm aure there was more too his death than just a concern of being a snitch.

Next thing...unc MAIN financier is jack warner...that is whyyyu he have 9 lives. Pnm had calder hart...buttt he wasn't a grassroot. H financed them just to eat ah food with food. Yih don't hear de sabgas names ever on any political affiliations.   Trust me pal...is mainly indian ppl...I know this cuz is my own bloood.  And I don't mean no racism nothing by that. Is just that we on here fighting down eachother whilst the politcians eating foood while we de poor people on this bullshitt...all yuh think the politicians like oh he's is ah niggah and he's ah indian....they don't care ppl....lets stop this shtupiddd race thing....it rel disheartening...men is come on here to vibes out...tul chill..relax...read ah lil  ting..yuh know....overs de fight down
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on April 02, 2013, 05:19:24 AM
Stuueeppsss!!!!! 

all this talk about "we is one, and all ah we is trini and what all this race talk for", all yuh sounding like ah bunch ah fackin muppets!! weh allyuh think this iz, sesame street??!!

if  what allyuh saying iz true then tell me why this thread escalate sooo far in thy space of no time. if i remember clearly all i did was jest @ elan's statement when he made a comment about the pic with kamla and the indian engineers the quote was, "is this ah family business?" of which i replied, "i was wondering the same thing, it kinda remind me of the fire department here in NYC, it's only ah set of irish and italian very little to no diversity". that was it! that was all i said, and from that simple statement ppl get their feeling hurt and start bawlin bout "if yuh doh like it then go study electrical engineering", then the talk start.

now all i did was throw my corn, then came the detractors, "JC weh scene yuh on boy, wah kind ah talk is dat, cool it nah boy", man want tuh kill me bc i speak the real "i throw meh corn, and if it fall in yuh garden then you is the one with the problem", all i did was call it as it iz.

i did not misrepresent the truth, on the contrary, i told nothing but the sad truth of what took place in T&T and is still taking place.

what i truly believe is that i'm the only one who have the balls to say out loud what ppl say in the confines of their own comfort zones, so fack allyuh, i will keep on telling the truth.

izza african, and i does dog africans more than any other ppl on the planet, and what i do say about africans is the truth for the most part,

collectively we are the most disfunctional bunch of mdfkrs on the planet, but when i do and say these things no indian, white man, syrian or chinese doh ever come to the aid of the africans on the board,

but when i dog indian or whiteman, here comes nigger charlie in his shining armor to defend their honor, but who comes to your aid when i'm talking smack about your sons , nephews, god sons, grandsons etc, saying they eh no fackin good and they should lock up all ah dem and throw away the key??

i would like nothing better than to say, "boy if is one thing, my country real together and united boy", nothing would make me happier!! but that would be ah phat lie!!

ah yardie could probably say it bc the british had nothing to fear in jamaica since he christianized the whole nation so every body there uptil today is the staunchest of christians and jamaicans even the big bad moroons.

but in T&T and guyana he failed in that attempt, and that was possible bc there was ah huge indian population on these two colonies with some black man still walking around practicing islam on the sly, and the last thing the british wanted was for the indian muslims to give/ teach africans the islamic religion, that would spell chaos for the colonials, hence the reason more hindus were imported than any other group, bc hindus don't integrate or propagate their religion to others.

what allyuh fail to realize is that this pulling and tugging is not entirely our fault, as sure as the sun would shine i tellin allyuh that the british caused this riff, if allyuh doh believe meh then just look @ how indians and africans and chinese in jamaica does live like true brothers, i went there and saw it with my own bulbs, it's true, no lie.


who the cap fit let them wear it, if allyuh hate truth so much then eat ah dick.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on April 02, 2013, 07:21:10 AM
come nah allyuh oh shit....is fuuckin children hear or what  :cursing: kill dat on dis thread nah.......fuuck man!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on April 02, 2013, 07:37:34 AM
come nah allyuh oh shit....is fuuckin children hear or what  :cursing: kill dat on dis thread nah.......fuuck man!
OK lefty i done for real this time.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on April 02, 2013, 08:06:37 AM
Ah wonder if the mods could cut this thread where it went off topic and put it in the discussion , we need to talk this RACISM shit out because certain people in Trinbago use it to their benefit.

Notice whenever anybody mention Mamalar the defenders always come out ,when we was mashing up Manning there was  none.

 
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on April 02, 2013, 08:15:44 AM
Thread needs cleaning up, badly.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: just cool on April 02, 2013, 08:23:24 AM
Ah wonder if the mods could cut this thread where it went off topic and put it in the discussion , we need to talk this RACISM shit out because certain people in Trinbago use it to their benefit.

Notice whenever anybody mention Mamalar the defenders always come out ,when we was mashing up Manning there was  none.

 
So make one dread, i will most definitely participate.   good idea.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: pecan on April 02, 2013, 10:14:02 AM
UPDATE 1-Trinidad asks U.S. for information on FBI soccer fraud probe
(Adds further background, details of allegations)
By Linda Hutchinson-Jafar and Mark Hosenball (Reuters)


PORT OF SPAIN/WASHINGTON, April 1 (Reuters (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/1-trinidad-asks-u-information-fbi-soccer-fraud-210701041--sow.html)) - Under pressure from opposition politicians, the prime minister of Trinidad and Tobago said she had sought information from U.S. authorities about an FBI investigation into alleged corruption in international soccer possibly involving the Caribbean country's national security minister, a former vice-president of FIFA.

An exclusive Reuters report last week quoted U.S. law enforcement sources as saying Daryan Warner, the son of National Security Minister Jack Warner, has become a "cooperating witness" in the FBI investigation.

The sources have not said who might be charged, if anybody, or when. While the exact scope of the investigation is not clear, among the matters under scrutiny are two previously reported allegations involving Jack Warner, the sources said.

Warner is the former head of the Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Football (CONCACAF) and previously served as a vice president of FIFA, soccer's global governing body. He has not been charged with any crimes and has denied any wrongdoing.

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FIFA said last week the Swiss-based organization was "unaware" of any FBI investigation related to the Americas and Caribbean. (Editing by Kevin Gray and Claudia Parsons)


Andre, nice try to bring this thread back on track.  But it look like a EPIC fail.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Socapro on April 02, 2013, 10:30:20 AM
Ah wonder if the mods could cut this thread where it went off topic and put it in the discussion , we need to talk this RACISM shit out because certain people in Trinbago use it to their benefit.

Notice whenever anybody mention Mamalar the defenders always come out ,when we was mashing up Manning there was  none.

 
So make one dread, i will most definitely participate.   good idea.
I've made a thread in General where these issues can be discussed.

Go here: http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=59376.0
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Peong on April 02, 2013, 10:41:44 AM
Allyuh shoulda make a thread for the outage.  All this woulda been in there.  Who is the first one to post about it?  Iz your fault, do better nex time.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on April 02, 2013, 12:43:58 PM
RAMLOGAN WAITS ON US AG'S REPLY
By Andre Bagoo Monday, April 1 2013

ATTORNEY General Anand Ramlogan yesterday said he wrote US Attorney General Eric H Holder last week, “seeking clarification” on issues stemming from a Reuters news report which stated an FBI probe into football corruption had intensified and now reportedly involves Daryan Warner, son of National Security Minister Jack Warner, a former FIFA vice-president.

Daryan Warner is reportedly a “cooperating witness” in the FBI probe.

In an interview with Newsday, Ramlogan confirmed that he complied with a directive issued by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar on the matter.

On Saturday, Persad-Bissessar disclosed that she had taken several steps in her official capacity since the report of March 27. Among these steps was to call for efforts to be made through “diplomatic channels”. She also directed Ramlogan to write US Attorney General Eric Holder.

“I further directed the Attorney General, Anand Ramlogan, to write his counterpart, the US Attorney General, Eric Holder Jr, directly to seek his personal intervention in the matter so that there can be official confirmation of the facts and circumstances surrounding this the alleged investigation,” Persad-Bissessar’s statement said.

Asked if he had written Holder or received a response, Ramlogan told Newsday, “A letter was despatched last week seeking clarification. At the moment it is too early to expect a reply. Nothing can be done unless the facts are established. It would not be appropriate to speculate at this point. We are trying to get the facts. I do not know what the scope of any of this could entail. We are simply trying to establish the facts.” The Attorney General did not give the date of the letter.

Asked if the Central Authority Unit of the Ministry of the Attorney General — which handles official requests for cooperation in law enforcement matters across borders — has had any role in the process of seeking clarification, Ramlogan said. “Not as yet. Let us see what my counterpart in the United States says and then we will see what happens.” Ramlogan declined to make the correspondence public. Holder — whose family has roots in Barbados — was last in Trinidad and Tobago in November 2011, when he engaged in talks with several Government officials as well as regional bodies and agencies based in Trinidad.

Ramlogan’s confirmation came as the Government continued to attempt to ascertain the facts relating to the issue.

The Prime Minister’s statement on Saturday was her second statement on the matter.

A few days earlier, on Wednesday, her office had issued a short statement saying: “I will not rely on published reports in the media but will again seek to get official corroboration of the information now in the public domain before making any determination or pronouncement.”

In her statement on Saturday, however, Persad-Bissessar revealed the extent of official action taken by her administration over the issues which have now been linked to the National Security Minister and UNC chairman Warner. The Prime Minister disclosed that on March 27, the day the report was first published by Reuters, she made a request of Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Dookeran.

“I instructed the Minister of Foreign Affairs the Honourable Winston Dookeran to pursue the matter via the established diplomatic channels to obtain the relevant facts and seek clarification on the reported allegations,” she said in the statement.

Contacted yesterday, Dookeran said his efforts remained ongoing but declined to specify what steps he took to comply with the Prime Minister’s directive.

“The matter is being dealt with,” the Foreign Affairs Minister said in a brief telephone interview. “I am attending to the matter but I cannot tell you more.” Asked how he was dealing with the matter — whether by way of a diplomatic note or otherwise — Dookeran declined comment. Asked for a time-line on when he would be able to report the results of his efforts, Dookeran said, “I don’t know. I have no idea.”

Diplomatic sources stated that two options open to Dookeran include a diplomatic note seeking clarification, as well as a note requesting an audience with the US Secretary of State John Kerry. Dookeran would not comment on any options available to him. Trinidad and Tobago’s Ambassador to the US Dr Neil Parsan did not respond to e-mail, text and telephone messages.

Dookeran is a founding member of the Congress of the People (COP), the second-largest coalition partner, in terms of seats in the Parliament.

The COP has openly called for Warner to resign, since FIFA bribery allegations against him first emerged in 2011. Persad-Bissessar, who has been ill with the flu, did not respond to messages. Warner did not answer calls. (See Page 5A)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Fyzoman on April 02, 2013, 01:08:30 PM
Elan know what he was doing when he ask de question, 'Is this ah family business ???'

But de line ah de year for me?
'for instance Dole Chadee...he used to help ppl...yea he kill some ppl...but its businezss...ask ppl how much poor ppl he help.'
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on April 03, 2013, 07:25:46 AM
T&T becoming ‘pariah state’
By Ria Taitt

If, as the Trinidad and Tobago Government suggests, the US authorities are snubbing it in its attempt to get information on whether National Security Minister Jack Warner is the subject of an investigation in that country, then it points to the fact that this country has reached an all-time low in its relations with that country.

This is the view of Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley.

“The very fact that the Government could be very glibly reporting to us that they have not been in receipt of any information from the US authorities to clarify for the Prime Minister whether or not a minister of government is the subject of this US investigation, should tell the people of Trinidad and Tobago how far we have fallen in our relations with the US government,” Rowley said at a news conference yesterday.

Rowley said he anticipated more unpleasant actions vis-a-vis the US government.

“I am sure it is clear to the US as it is to us that the Government of Trinidad and Tobago led by the Prime Minister is more concerned about protecting the Minister of National Security than (it is concerned) about the protection of the interest of Trinidad and Tobago,” he said.

“And once the US government comes to that conclusion, they have a variety of ways of dealing with rogue countries that put themselves in pariah status. And what this UNC (United National Congress) Government led by Kamla Persad-Bissessar is doing is moving Trinidad and Tobago into the status of pariah states with the US government, where, as we fail to cooperate with extradition, as we speak untruths both locally and abroad, as we protect persons who have questions to answer, as we elevate them in our national security system, as we promote them to high office in the Cabinet, as we protect them from the media, we may very well find other unpleasant actions coming from the US which would have serious negative effects on the population of Trinidad and Tobago,” Rowley stated.
He said the giving of information on whether someone is the subject of an investigation in no way prejudices the court proceedings of that investigation if it proceeds to the court.

Rowley said the US would not share sensitive data with a country whose national security minister is the subject of an investigation in that country.

He said every time Warner’s name is mentioned in unsavoury matters overseas, it is done in the context of his presence in the Government as National Security Minister. “On that basis alone, he should be removed. The Prime Minister has a duty to protect the good name of the country, protect our best interests,” he said.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Peong on April 03, 2013, 10:04:32 AM
Jack has something on Kamla. That's why she protecting him, putting him before the reputation and good standing of the country.  If she hopes to have any chance of getting re-elected she has to do something about him, but maybe she can't.  Then again maybe she already give up on a successful re-election.  In that case, they will try to grab as much as they can before they go, again to the detriment of the nation.
I really tired of these ppl.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on April 03, 2013, 10:20:15 AM
Jack has something on Kamla. That's why she protecting him, putting him before the reputation and good standing of the country.  If she hopes to have any chance of getting re-elected she has to do something about him, but maybe she can't.  Then again maybe she already give up on a successful re-election.  In that case, they will try to grab as much as they can before they go, again to the detriment of the nation.
I really tired of these ppl.


All them peeps know Jack money was not really Jack money but they did not care as it got them into power to get more money. If Jack was not such a narcissist he would have step down for the good of the party. But is a dominoe game wth him when 1 fall all fall. Manning did warn we bout this PATHETHIC POSSE and Rowley warn we when he became a Minister but we did not listen so ban all yuh belly and bawl.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Socapro on April 03, 2013, 10:31:35 AM
Jack has something on Kamla. That's why she protecting him, putting him before the reputation and good standing of the country.  If she hopes to have any chance of getting re-elected she has to do something about him, but maybe she can't.  Then again maybe she already give up on a successful re-election.  In that case, they will try to grab as much as they can before they go, again to the detriment of the nation.
I really tired of these ppl.


All them peeps know Jack money was not really Jack money but they did not care as it got them into power to get more money. If Jack was not such a narcissist he would have step down for the good of the party. But is a dominoe game wth him when 1 fall all fall. Manning did warn we bout this PATHETHIC POSSE and Rowley warn we when he became a Minister but we did not listen so ban all yuh belly and bawl.
And doh forget that he won his constituency by the widest margin of all the candidates who became government ministers eh.
Looks like money buys almost everything in T&T these days, even voters morality and commonsense!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on April 03, 2013, 10:33:01 AM
When jack fall PP will fall. Dais why Rowley want that scalp bad. Now is a good time for the footballers to speak up again.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on April 03, 2013, 10:48:55 AM
Jack has something on Kamla. That's why she protecting him, putting him before the reputation and good standing of the country.  If she hopes to have any chance of getting re-elected she has to do something about him, but maybe she can't.  Then again maybe she already give up on a successful re-election.  In that case, they will try to grab as much as they can before they go, again to the detriment of the nation.
I really tired of these ppl.


All them peeps know Jack money was not really Jack money but they did not care as it got them into power to get more money. If Jack was not such a narcissist he would have step down for the good of the party. But is a dominoe game wth him when 1 fall all fall. Manning did warn we bout this PATHETHIC POSSE and Rowley warn we when he became a Minister but we did not listen so ban all yuh belly and bawl.
And doh forget that he won his constituency by the widest margin of all the candidates who became government ministers eh.
Looks like money buys almost everything in T&T these days, even voters morality and commonsense!

That votes thing is d seat them is UNC till I die people they gif jack 1 of the safest seats. Y they did not give him Chaguanas East?


When jack fall PP will fall. Dais why Rowley want that scalp bad. Now is a good time for the footballers to speak up again.

DHW I wish I believe that so much of the UNC people eatin ah food Rowley need a crane to move them from power. As Peong say they stayin as long as they can to grab what they can. The rest of us to ketch. 
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Deeks on April 03, 2013, 11:47:19 AM
Manning did warn we bout this PATHETHIC POSSE and Rowley warn we when he became a Minister but we did not listen so ban all yuh belly and bawl.

Weary, we were not going to listen to Patos. Pastos was PATHETIC himself. Rowley was right. We on this forum knew this all along from 2006 to present. But they would not have listened to Growley. He is ah pitbull.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on April 03, 2013, 11:52:39 AM
PNM eat nuff food.  Time for a major change.  If Rowley doh get rid of certain characters in teh PNM, people go have to be ready to hold dey nose, ban dey belly and do what they do in Tobago,

Gonians hold dey nose and vote PNM last  THA elections  dais all.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on April 03, 2013, 12:02:36 PM
PNM eat nuff food.  Time for a major change.  If Rowley doh get rid of certain characters in teh PNM, people go have to be ready to hold dey nose, ban dey belly and do what they do in Tobago,

Gonians hold dey nose and vote PNM last  THA elections  dais all.

this
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Deeks on April 03, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
PNM eat nuff food.  Time for a major change.  If Rowley doh get rid of certain characters in teh PNM, people go have to be ready to hold dey nose, ban dey belly and do what they do in Tobago,

Gonians hold dey nose and vote PNM last  THA elections  dais all.

Who in the PNM they need to get rid of?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: davidephraim on April 03, 2013, 07:03:56 PM
Unfortunate that we would think one better than the next. Tarus Riley say;
De system set, to keep the families out there fighting, while the slave masters rejoicing!

We have to hold a medi and not be fooled by the devices.  Why couldn't PNM get rid of Pato? We here wonderin why Kamla doh get rid of Jack?  We should get rid of dem all but we are all big enough to realize it is not a zero sum game now is it?

There will always be someone selling out at de back door! If we want true progress, convince your brothers and sisters to stop sellin by de back door because we are all guilty. The only time it does be an issue, is when is not your team doing de selling, in which case dey cya bless nobody.

I could echo these sentiments till i'm blue in de face couldn't I?

This means de system set!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on April 03, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
PNM eat nuff food.  Time for a major change.  If Rowley doh get rid of certain characters in teh PNM, people go have to be ready to hold dey nose, ban dey belly and do what they do in Tobago,

Gonians hold dey nose and vote PNM last  THA elections  dais all.

Who in the PNM they need to get rid of?

we  doh wash bwe dirty linen in public.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on April 03, 2013, 09:26:14 PM
Eh doh4crown with the PNM they have more class than the lagoon government with their new politics.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on April 03, 2013, 09:31:09 PM
Manning did warn we bout this PATHETHIC POSSE and Rowley warn we when he became a Minister but we did not listen so ban all yuh belly and bawl.

Weary, we were not going to listen to Patos. Pastos was PATHETIC himself. Rowley was right. We on this forum knew this all along from 2006 to present. But they would not have listened to Growley. He is ah pitbull.

As pathethic Patrick is was or will always be on his worse day he eh as bad as these clowns. So once d option is these jokers I doin what I did in 2010 steupsing b4/durin and after but d PNM gettin my vote.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 04, 2013, 03:05:51 AM
PNM eat nuff food.  Time for a major change.  If Rowley doh get rid of certain characters in teh PNM, people go have to be ready to hold dey nose, ban dey belly and do what they do in Tobago,

Gonians hold dey nose and vote PNM last  THA elections  dais all.

Who in the PNM they need to get rid of?

we  doh wash bwe dirty linen in public.

So PNM wants back in office and is attacking the current government on transparency and you want to wash linen in private? How do those items gel?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: fitzinho on April 04, 2013, 07:29:09 AM
The title of this thread is misleading
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on April 04, 2013, 08:16:32 AM
fitz The title of this thread is misleading .

I was advise that you should bring the evidence to support you claim.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: fitzinho on April 04, 2013, 09:47:23 AM
fitz The title of this thread is misleading .

I was advise that you should bring the evidence to support you claim.
Last few pages I read were only about who black and who white/ who vote for PNM and who didn't. I was under the assumption this thread would be about Jack Warner's sons and their arrest or lack thereof.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: zuluwarrior on April 04, 2013, 10:03:59 AM
Ok i hear yuh , that was some trash that was in the storm that came out when ever you mention Kams and she family,

and next thing yuh start hearing man getting ban from eating doubles ,roti ,sar he na and things with curry.   
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on April 04, 2013, 11:57:03 AM
Under what circumstances, Prime Minister?
By Winford James


If I were the Prime Minister and I learnt that a son of my National Security Minister had agreed to assist the FBI in investigations about certain FIFA matters, I would not only be concerned, I would be worried. Indeed, extremely worried. So many things had been giving the Government black eyes and body blows. Was this another one? I would find a quiet corner and a peaceful stretch of time and commune with myself.

I would think: "This is a serious development. Whenever the FBI enters the picture, it always is. What are those investigations about? Fraud? Misuse of FIFA funds? Money laundering? Do those investigations involve him? Does Daryan have compromising information on some of his father's financial dealings, and will he tell on his father? Jack resigned from FIFA following allegations of US$40,000 in bribes to Concacaf officials to win their support for the Qatari Bin Hamman's bid for the FIFA presidency. Is the FBI investigating that? And the newspaper reports speak of some repayment of debts to former Concacaf secretary Chuck Blazer. What's that about? The stakes are high here. Jack is chairman of the party, he is a leading financier, and he holds the very sensitive portfolio of National Security. A lot of things are at stake here: the country's interests, its international image, the Government's credibility, the party's political fortunes. I have got to talk to him. And I have to talk to the American authorities as well.''

Now, the Prime Minister has a way of procrastinating and prevaricating on important issues and, while she may have quickly enough asked Jack to explain his son's involvement with the FBI, she certainly took her sweet time seeking information from the American authorities. But she tells us that when she asked Jack he denied any involvement in any funny business, and when she sought clarifying information from the American authorities she was turned down. And so, thinking that newspaper reports are not a sufficient basis for her to take action against someone so important to her government and her party, and being clearly snubbed by the Americans, she has decided to let Jack hang on.


Indeed, Jack pre-empted her by declaring that he was going nowhere and... she took her cue from him.

But she has left many people frustrated. They see a minister who has brought little or no value to the country—in any of his portfolios. They see a man who felt there was no necessary conflict of interests between his vice presidency of FIFA and his ministerial role. They see a minister who prefers the autocratic way of prosecuting his functions and who is entirely lacking in the sensitivity needed for solving problems in a democracy.

They see a blusterer who does not understand the need for intelligent, respectful, and patient dialogue on difficult issues. They see a minister who attracts controversy like a night light attracts moths. And now they see his older son assisting the FBI in the investigation of matters involving financial misconduct in FIFA, an organisation in which he was a vice-president and from which he resigned ignominiously, and him denying being a subject of those investigations.

It is not that they believe he is lying, but that they are wearied by the relentlessness with which he troubles their spirit. If he is lying, sooner or later we will know, and then there will be no escape for him and our procrastinating Prime Minister. Why is the Prime Minister allowing one man to aggrieve our spirit like that?


I would think that this unending burden on our spirit is good enough reason for her to invite President Carmona to revoke his appointment, especially if she also takes into consideration the fact that he has not really added value—not yet anyway—to her government in the area that needs it the most: crime reduction. But if she is not persuaded by this perspective, she should give us a sense of the circumstances under which she would get rid of him.

Under what circumstances, Prime Minister?


• Winford James is a UWI

lecturer and political analyst

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on April 04, 2013, 01:27:15 PM
PNM eat nuff food.  Time for a major change.  If Rowley doh get rid of certain characters in teh PNM, people go have to be ready to hold dey nose, ban dey belly and do what they do in Tobago,

Gonians hold dey nose and vote PNM last  THA elections  dais all.

Who in the PNM they need to get rid of?

we  doh wash bwe dirty linen in public.

So PNM wants back in office and is attacking the current government on transparency and you want to wash linen in private? How do those items gel?

Like you is ah kicks man or wha?  Yuh really feel any POLITICAL organization going to air shit in public to arm the opposition?  Really?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on April 04, 2013, 01:40:25 PM
Many years ago the Indian High Commissioner to the UK resigned because his son was caught shoplifting a pencil.

JW son get caught in bobol and spilling beans to the FBI. He go probably make Deputy PM.

VB
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on April 04, 2013, 01:47:49 PM
Many years ago the Indian High Commissioner to the UK resigned because his son was caught shoplifting a pencil.

JW son get caught in bobol and spilling beans to the FBI. He go probably make Deputy PM.

VB

PM you mean or the next President in 4 years time.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 04, 2013, 01:56:57 PM
PNM eat nuff food.  Time for a major change.  If Rowley doh get rid of certain characters in teh PNM, people go have to be ready to hold dey nose, ban dey belly and do what they do in Tobago,

Gonians hold dey nose and vote PNM last  THA elections  dais all.

Who in the PNM they need to get rid of?

we  doh wash bwe dirty linen in public.

So PNM wants back in office and is attacking the current government on transparency and you want to wash linen in private? How do those items gel?

Like you is ah kicks man or wha?  Yuh really feel any POLITICAL organization going to air shit in public to arm the opposition?  Really?

I'm sure you can speak in your private capacity. How would talking about this bobol be different from all the other bobol we beat on here already?

The bar for the PNM regaining Gov't is already low. Yet, as on point as the Leader of the Opposition has been in challenging the PM recently ... It still strikes kind of hollow because Warner is formidable in how he has things set.

In other words, regaining Gov't is still not a walk in the park.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on April 04, 2013, 02:00:30 PM
What bobol? who mention bobol?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on April 04, 2013, 02:03:07 PM
Warner set like jello..trust me he eh go be around in 2015!
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 04, 2013, 02:08:16 PM
Warner set like jello..trust me he eh go be around in 2015!

I know.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 04, 2013, 02:08:38 PM
What bobol? who mention bobol?

Well played :).
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: truetrini on April 04, 2013, 02:11:45 PM
yuh keep shifting the goallposts man..each edit yuh adding things...


The bar low, yet it is not a walk in the park..which is it Mr. Crytic?   Let us look at the barometer after the local government elections nah.  It will be no bloodbath like Tobago was and that will give themZ (PP) comfort..to their peril.

No one trusts them, dem cyar even trust deyselves.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on April 09, 2013, 10:49:39 AM
CCN TV6 ‏@tv6tnt
Warner defends rejecting calls for his resignation: 'It had an AG whose brother was convicted for murder. They asked him to resign?"

CCN TV6 ‏@tv6tnt
Warner on resignation calls:There was a fella who acted as PM several times whose wife was charged for shoplifting.They asked him to resign?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on April 09, 2013, 10:53:36 AM
daiz d best he could come up with .....no shame whatsoever SMH
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on April 09, 2013, 11:00:56 AM
daiz d best he could come up with .....no shame whatsoever SMH
You would think the government would want to distance itself from this fiasco.  but watch this.

Quote
Jamal backs Jack
Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Jamal-backs-Jack-202038401.html

April 8, 2013
Communications Minister Jamal Mohammed said yesterday that he agreed with National Security Minister Jack Warner’s response to the questions put to him by Head of the Express Investigative Desk Camini Marajh. Warner did not respond to the specific questions but instead issued a mass e-mail to all media houses, stating if he chose to answer any of the questions, “wrapped within your own expression of opinions and false judgment what I would be doing is validating character assassination posing as investigative journalism”.
Speaking during an interview on TV6’s Morning Edition, Mohammed said that Government “fully supported” Warner
.

“That’s the way it operates and that is the way we have to deal with it sometimes. I certainly agree with the response given by Mr Jack Warner to those issues and we fully support him and we want the people of Trinidad and Tobago to know that this Government is an open Government,” he said.

Mohammed said he had the same incident “but in reverse”. “What we thought was a private discussion ended up being in the full glare of the public,” he said, adding that he did not want to be specific. Mohammed had e-mailed the letter to TV6 Head of News Dominic Kalipersad he claimed he was writing as a citizen and not as the Minister and in which he accused TV6 and Express of having an agenda to embarrass the People’s Partnership Government. The letter was published in the media.

Mohammed said Warner was within his rights to respond as he did. On the Prime Minister’s statement that there were “rogue” elements in the media, Mohammed said: “At what point does that become an attack or source of intimidation. It was just a comment. It is a reality that we are facing in Trinidad and Tobago and the Prime Minister is within her right to make a comment.”

He added that the Prime Minister went to great pains to explain that she had no war with the media and she was speaking about a certain occurrence within the media fraternity. He said the Government was not under attack by rogue elements but it was under attack by certain elements of the media who have another agenda. “We are aware of it...Just be careful,” he said, referring to the report that the Integrity Commission had referred a complaint involving Sports Minister Anil Roberts to the Director of Public Prosecutions.
Mohammed said the media was hypersensitive. He said Government had excellent relationship with all arms of the media. He said all Government was saying was : “be fair”. “We are not picking a fight with the media...But that perception was being created when the media says it is under attack. And that is not fair,” he said, adding that Government would never use its powers to interfere in the affairs of any media house.

On the Government singling out individual reporters for personal attacks, giving personal details about reporter's private lives, Mohammed said if it was true, he had no problem (with such revelations). He said sometimes he too read in the newspapers front page articles on “the personal lives” of members of the Government”, the shoes the Prime Minister wears and the house that the Attorney General owns”. “What are these things doing in the front page of a newspaper? Of what business is that to the people of Trinidad and Tobago, once the person is not breaking any law and there is nothing wrong with what he is doing, that is his right as a citizen of Trinidad and Tobago,” he said.

Mohammed said he planned to meet with the Trinidad and Tobago Broadcasters and Publishers Association and the Media Association of Trinidad and Tobago to talk about things affecting the media and the state.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on April 09, 2013, 11:36:57 AM
Warner paranoid, and they still keep attacking the media, they will never learn.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on April 09, 2013, 12:03:21 PM
daiz d best he could come up with .....no shame whatsoever SMH

Grasping at straws
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on April 09, 2013, 12:14:00 PM
daiz d best he could come up with .....no shame whatsoever SMH

He playing stupid
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on April 09, 2013, 12:25:34 PM
pure desperation......d irrationality being displayed by supposedly rational people is mind boggling, d paranoia will get worse for Local Gov't and den meet ah crescendo for General ....rowley done sayin to watch dem like ah hawk for elections ............given d damage to dey ego from d tobago debacle, I ent puttin nutten pass dese people
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: maxg on April 09, 2013, 02:23:22 PM
oh,i get it..this is political football.. ;D
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on April 09, 2013, 02:27:41 PM
pure desperation......d irrationality being displayed by supposedly rational people is mind boggling, d paranoia will get worse for Local Gov't and den meet ah crescendo for General ....rowley done sayin to watch dem like ah hawk for elections ............given d damage to dey ego from d tobago debacle, I ent puttin nutten pass dese people


These people I use that in the pass and certain peeps in these parts saw race. I wonder if they still seeing race?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on April 09, 2013, 07:57:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/6DqlQ14AC64&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 09, 2013, 08:06:18 PM
pure desperation......d irrationality being displayed by supposedly rational people is mind boggling, d paranoia will get worse for Local Gov't and den meet ah crescendo for General ....rowley done sayin to watch dem like ah hawk for elections ............given d damage to dey ego from d tobago debacle, I ent puttin nutten pass dese people


These people I use that in the pass and certain peeps in these parts saw race. I wonder if they still seeing race?

Well, it's not the most "artful" way of conveying the thought he's trying to convey ... and being ambiguous ... that could happen. Similar language has in the past been used by "some folks" to refer to refer to "other ppl" as "these ppl". So even where no malice is intended, that language will raise an eyebrow.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on April 09, 2013, 09:21:10 PM
pure desperation......d irrationality being displayed by supposedly rational people is mind boggling, d paranoia will get worse for Local Gov't and den meet ah crescendo for General ....rowley done sayin to watch dem like ah hawk for elections ............given d damage to dey ego from d tobago debacle, I ent puttin nutten pass dese people


These people I use that in the pass and certain peeps in these parts saw race. I wonder if they still seeing race?

Well, it's not the most "artful" way of conveying the thought he's trying to convey ... and being ambiguous ... that could happen. Similar language has in the past been used by "some folks" to refer to refer to "other ppl" as "these ppl". So even where no malice is intended, that language will raise an eyebrow.

nah ah speakin of d collective bunch ah "despicable bungling clowns" and dat distinction pretty much color blind with dese boys and girls :frustrated:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on April 10, 2013, 11:28:46 AM
Jack: I have never been questioned
Originally printed at http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Jack-I-have-never-been-questioned-202230221.html

By Anna Ramdass anna.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com
April 9, 2013
National Security Minister Jack Warner has said he has never been questioned by any authorities in connection with any investigation into his affairs.

Reuters recently reported that the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) was investigating alleged corruption in FIFA in which Warner’s son Daryan was a “cooperating witness”.

In the face of this report, Warner, for the first time, has said he has never been questioned by any authorities.

Speaking at the United National Congress’ (UNC) Monday night forum  at the Barataria Regional Complex, Warner also said while there have been numerous calls for him to resign, he had the support of Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and the People’s Partnership Government.

The Prime Minister, through Attorney General Anand Ramlogan and Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Dookeran, has made official requests to the United States government for information pertaining to this alleged probe into Warner.

Said Warner, “They say I must resign because a newspaper said Jack Warner is under investigation. Nobody ever call me, nobody ever investigate me, nobody ever ask me a question.”

As he spoke, members of the audience shouted, “Jack must stay!” and “Jack not going no way!”

Warner told his supporters he was the most targeted Minister in political history.

“No politician in this country has been vilified, abused as I have been and yet I stand tall knowing full well I have the backing, support and confidence of the Prime Minister and the Government,” said Warner.

He said since entering ministerial office, he can be found guilty of no crime.

“Jack Warner left FIFA two years ago and up to now they don’t want FIFA to leave me so everyday is FIFA. FIFA could take care of itself, not one of them could point a finger at me when I was minister of works and transport, not one. Then I was minister of works and infrastructure, not one of them can point a finger at me...they can’t say one single criminal act I did, they can’t say one failure I had as a minister and now I gone with the same energy at crime—National Security,” said Warner.

Warner said his family was under scrutiny but in the past when other ministers’ family members were under question, there were no resignation calls.

“It had an AG whose brother was convicted and charged for murder...did he resign? It had a fella who act as Prime Minister for several times, his wife was charged for shoplifting, they asked him to resign? Tell them fellas to leave me alone!” said Warner.

The Prime Minister said Warner used her wisdom to appoint him to look after this country’s national security because she knew he would deliver—and that was why police stations and fire stations were being constructed nationwide and vessels were being purchased to man the seas.

Warner said his successful actions as National Security Minister were upsetting many—including those who have a problem with the number of drug busts and police exercises taking place.

He said last week there was a “sea block” exercise where every vessel coming into the country was searched while helicopters monitored.

He said the friends of his detractors were now complaining.

Warner said the People’s Partnership Government is 35 months old and during that period there were 36 calls for his resignation- from Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley and Opposition Senator Fitzgerald Hinds.

He added that there were also calls from Fixin T&T, “who ain’t fixin nothing”.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Socapro on April 10, 2013, 12:11:32 PM
This guy really taking the T&T public for fools yes.

Anyway putting things in perspective, I guess that speech was designed to feed his blind and loyal supporters so we could have expected stuff like that from him when speaking from such a platform.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on April 15, 2013, 09:53:46 AM
CCN TV6 (@tv6tnt) tweeted at 11:27 AM on Mon, Apr 15, 2013:Min. Warner: 'who thought after carrying this country to the Fifa WC in 2006, 7 yrs after I would read so much garbage?' @expressupdates(https://twitter.com/tv6tnt/status/323819856938016768)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Jah Gol on April 15, 2013, 09:55:03 AM
CCN TV6 (@tv6tnt) tweeted at 11:28 AM on Mon, Apr 15, 2013:"@JabariFraser: Min. Warner: my wife asked me, 'whey de money gone, boy?' All these reports about income but nobody writing abt expenditure"(https://twitter.com/tv6tnt/status/323820081777897472)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: fordy on April 15, 2013, 09:58:23 AM
CCN TV6 (@tv6tnt) tweeted at 11:27 AM on Mon, Apr 15, 2013:Min. Warner: 'who thought after carrying this country to the Fifa WC in 2006, 7 yrs after I would read so much garbage?' @expressupdates(https://twitter.com/tv6tnt/status/323819856938016768)

So wait let me understand the psychology of this man! he score a goal for T&T, he made a save for the national team, he wore the natl colors and got his uniform dirty on the road to Germany? what team he carry to the WC? this is the grandeoso attitude the man has and he take what he felt was "due" to him because in his mind "he carry T&T to the world cup"!! Thats why he can sleep at night without hesitation because in his mind he was right for all the money he thief and all the young footballing lives he has destroyed!! :beermug:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: lefty on April 15, 2013, 10:10:12 AM
the unmitigated gall of that festered prick of ah man :bs: :bs: >:( >:( >:( :cursing: :cursing:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on April 15, 2013, 10:28:36 AM
Warner you forget one major thing. The express actually have the documents to prove what they are saying. You still cant prove what you did with the money.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Deeks on April 15, 2013, 10:53:40 AM
Jack said, nobody talking about expenditure. Well where is you expense reports? Don't tell us,you spend this amount here and this amount there.... etc. We want legit reports. All the receipts. Even the one ones is your shoe box. That goes for Camps and Groden and all the officers under your tenure as the Special Advisor of the TTFF.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: D.H.W on April 15, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
Another thing. Why is TTFF money going into your bank account. ?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: weary1969 on April 15, 2013, 11:25:56 AM
Another thing. Why is TTFF money going into your bank account. ?

 I want 2 c the cheque gointo the UNC bank account.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Flex on April 28, 2013, 05:15:01 AM
Ralph Maraj: US does not trust T&T Government
By DENYSE RENNE (Guardian).


No info on FBI/IRS probe...

The failure of the T&T Government to get any official information from the United States pertaining to a Reuters report that Daryan Warner was assisting the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Internal Revenue Service (IRS) with their investigations can be seen as a lack of trust by the US. Former foreign affairs minister Ralph Maraj, in an interview with Sunday Guardian, said the hesitancy of the US “could be a sign of how the US government sees this present administration.”
 
Maraj said in his opinion, they (US) had no respect or trust and their unwillingness to respond spoke of the low esteem they held this Government. Warner, 45, is the son of former national security minister Jack Warner and is currently in Florida. The Reuters report, which was written by journalist Mark Hosenball, appeared on the Reuters Web site on March 27. The report said that an FBI probe into alleged corruption practices at Fifa had intensified following the co-operation of a witness.
 
The witness was identified in the report as being Warner (D). Following the report, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar instructed Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Dookeran and Attorney General Anand Ramlogan to contact their US counterparts on the matter. Both men have told the media that the US authorities remained mum on the issue.
 
Maraj told Sunday Guardian that both T&T and the US have “very strong relations at the bilateral and multi-lateral level,” and the US government has always been ready to co-operate and assist T&T in “most ways, not only just strong diplomatic, but strong economic aspects as well.” The former minister said the current US position and its unwillingness to respond to two “high level ministers” left a lot to be questioned.
 
Maraj said it should not have taken so long to solicit a response from the US. He said the Section 34 issue only compounded the lack of response from the US to this country’s queries.
 
Paula Gopee-Scoon responds

Former foreign affairs minister Paula Gopee-Scoon, meanwhile, said the utterances being made that both the AG and Dookeran were seeking information from the US was laughable. She said “a lot of fluff is being placed in the public domain, when they know fully well no information will be relayed to them.”
 
Gopee-Scoon said the fact that diplomatic channels were utilised by Dookeran and the AG, who wrote to Eric Holder Jr seeking information in the matter and no information was proffered says a lot and “the Government of T&T needs to be concerned.”
 
Questions to the US Embassy

An e-mail request was sent to the US Embassy seeking answers on the April 17 trip to Washington, where Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar met with US Deputy Secretary of State William Burns. Sunday Guardian asked:

• Whether Burns had any discussion with the PM in relation to tax evasion and money laundering allegations regarding Warner and his son Daryan?

• Whether Burns had any discussion with the PM in relation to tax evasion, money-laundering issues regarding any of her government ministers?

• Whether Burns had any discussion with the PM indicating the US intent to interview Mr Warner on tax evasion, money-laundering allegations?

• Whether Burns had any discussion with the PM indicating the US intent to interview any of her ministers on tax evasion, money-laundering allegations?
 
The US Embassy responds

“On April 17 Deputy Secretary Burns met with Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar to discuss a wide range of bilateral issues including regional security co-operation, commercial opportunities, and protection of vulnerable populations, reaffirming the long-standing close ties between the United States and the people of Trinidad and Tobago.”
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Trini _2026 on April 28, 2013, 06:00:47 AM
Ralph Maraj: US does not trust T&T Government
By DENYSE RENNE (Guardian).


No info on FBI/IRS probe...

The failure of the T&T Government to get any official information from the United States pertaining to a Reuters report that Daryan Warner was assisting the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Internal Revenue Service (IRS) with their investigations can be seen as a lack of trust by the US. Former foreign affairs minister Ralph Maraj, in an interview with Sunday Guardian, said the hesitancy of the US “could be a sign of how the US government sees this present administration.”
 
Maraj said in his opinion, they (US) had no respect or trust and their unwillingness to respond spoke of the low esteem they held this Government. Warner, 45, is the son of former national security minister Jack Warner and is currently in Florida. The Reuters report, which was written by journalist Mark Hosenball, appeared on the Reuters Web site on March 27. The report said that an FBI probe into alleged corruption practices at Fifa had intensified following the co-operation of a witness.
 
The witness was identified in the report as being Warner (D). Following the report, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar instructed Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Dookeran and Attorney General Anand Ramlogan to contact their US counterparts on the matter. Both men have told the media that the US authorities remained mum on the issue.
 
Maraj told Sunday Guardian that both T&T and the US have “very strong relations at the bilateral and multi-lateral level,” and the US government has always been ready to co-operate and assist T&T in “most ways, not only just strong diplomatic, but strong economic aspects as well.” The former minister said the current US position and its unwillingness to respond to two “high level ministers” left a lot to be questioned.
 
Maraj said it should not have taken so long to solicit a response from the US. He said the Section 34 issue only compounded the lack of response from the US to this country’s queries.
 
Paula Gopee-Scoon responds

Former foreign affairs minister Paula Gopee-Scoon, meanwhile, said the utterances being made that both the AG and Dookeran were seeking information from the US was laughable. She said “a lot of fluff is being placed in the public domain, when they know fully well no information will be relayed to them.”
 
Gopee-Scoon said the fact that diplomatic channels were utilised by Dookeran and the AG, who wrote to Eric Holder Jr seeking information in the matter and no information was proffered says a lot and “the Government of T&T needs to be concerned.”
 
Questions to the US Embassy

An e-mail request was sent to the US Embassy seeking answers on the April 17 trip to Washington, where Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar met with US Deputy Secretary of State William Burns. Sunday Guardian asked:

• Whether Burns had any discussion with the PM in relation to tax evasion and money laundering allegations regarding Warner and his son Daryan?

• Whether Burns had any discussion with the PM in relation to tax evasion, money-laundering issues regarding any of her government ministers?

• Whether Burns had any discussion with the PM indicating the US intent to interview Mr Warner on tax evasion, money-laundering allegations?

• Whether Burns had any discussion with the PM indicating the US intent to interview any of her ministers on tax evasion, money-laundering allegations?
 
The US Embassy responds

“On April 17 Deputy Secretary Burns met with Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar to discuss a wide range of bilateral issues including regional security co-operation, commercial opportunities, and protection of vulnerable populations, reaffirming the long-standing close ties between the United States and the people of Trinidad and Tobago.”


they don't know what a   sealed indictment  is ???
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on April 28, 2013, 06:13:58 AM
... to whom are you referring? The media? The former Ministers of Foreign Affairs? If the former, my view is the media is merely pushing appropriately rather than self-censoring.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Flex on August 23, 2013, 02:07:22 AM
DARYLL DUCKS IN
Warner’s younger son in surprise visit to T&T
By Asha javeed (Express)


Daryll Warner, one of the sons of Chaguanas West MP Jack Warner, is in Trinidad and Tobago for the rest of the week before he heads to New York, USA, for Labour Day celebrations next Monday.

The younger Warner, who has been the subject of rumours about him and his elder brother Daryan’s inability to travel outside of the United States, spoke to the Express yesterday while at the Twist Bar on Ariapita Avenue in Woodbrook.

He had earlier had a lengthy lunch at Aioli Restaurant in Ellerslie Plaza and was expected to stop by at the Trini Posse stand at the Queen’s Park Oval last night for the cricket match between Trinidad and Tobago Red Steel and Guyana Amazon Warriors in the Limacol Caribbean Premier League semi-final.

Daryll told the Express he was meeting Daryan in New York next week but could not confirm whether his brother will also travel back to Trinidad and Tobago.

“He’s in New York right now. Like me, he can travel anytime he wants but flights are full,” said Daryll, adding that he paid US$862 for his ticket home.

“How come no one wanted to purchase a ticket for me to come home? I would have welcomed that because ticket prices are expensive,” he said in reference to a  group who called themselves “Friends of Jack Warner” who had purchased a first-class one way ticket for his elder brother to come back to Trinidad before the Chaguanas West by-election on July 29.

His brother had responded that he would utilise the gift if he received a cheque for double his 2011 earnings which had amounted to close to $6 million.

Daryll, who described himself as a “simpleton”, said his family has been subject of relentless harassment over “allegations” which cost his father his Cabinet position.

Questioned on whether he or his brother were co-operating witnesses in an investigation by US agencies into world soccer governing body, FIFA, he said it was “all allegations”.

“I have heard I was in jail, that I was under house arrest, that I can’t leave Miami or I can’t travel. But I don’t feel compelled to respond to those things,” he said.

When the Express pointed out that his brother did address those issues with the Express, he replied: “My brother has kids and a family so he was compelled to respond. I am a bachelor. I have nothing to hide. I have no problems. I am just enjoying life.”

Asked whether he felt it was the media or the politicians who made an issue of the Warner brothers not being in Trinidad, he quickly replied that it was “politics”.

“What happens here is all gutter politics. It was desperation on the part of the United National Congress (UNC). If they have an issue with Jack, that is their issue. It does not define his children,” he said.

Daryll said he was “elated” that his father had won the Chaguanas West by-election, as “no good deed goes unpunished”.

“The by-election showed that people could pick sense from nonsense. Jack has always tried to help anyone he could. He used his position in FIFA and in politics to help people. I am happy for him. You have to get past the thorns in a rose to get to the rose, you know. Is Jack Warner perfect? No. But his heart is in the right place,” he said.

In February, Warner, who was then national security minister, had challenged anyone who wanted to know his sons’ whereabouts to contact them and had dared the media to publish anything about them. This was at the time of widespread rumours that they had been detained in Miami.

In March, Reuters News Agency published a report by Mark Hosenball which stated that Daryan Warner was a “co-operating witness” in an investigation into allegations of corruption in FIFA.

Jack Warner has consistently maintained his innocence of all allegations.

During the by-election campaign, Warner had appealed to Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar to leave his family alone after she raised concern about Concacaf’s Integrity Report which had accused Warner of fraud in his management of the organisation.

Those allegations, the Prime Minister had said, had dogged Warner’s political career.

Asked why he has not visited Trinidad and Tobago in the past nine months, Daryll said he intentionally stayed out.

He said he arrived “hassle-free” into Trinidad on Tuesday and hoped that his exit would be the same.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: rotatopoti3 on August 23, 2013, 08:14:55 AM
he lie..dey probably only just give him permission....or he passport back
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: vb on August 23, 2013, 02:53:40 PM
he lie..dey probably only just give him permission....or he passport back


 :beermug:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Flex on May 27, 2015, 03:48:26 PM
Warner brothers plead guilty - face 20 years in prison
By Richard Charan (Express).


Jack Warner said this morning that he only knew that the US Justice Department was looking to arrest him, by following the international news reports regarding a series of arrests which took place in Switzerland overnight. Acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams also said he knew nothing of an indictment or arrest warrant related to Warner.

In a statement issued on the matter, Warner made no mention of his son, Daryll and Daryan who, almost two years ago, cooperated with US investigators and pleaded guilty to a series of charges.

Details of the charges were unsealed today in a statement issued by the US Department of Justice.

In addition to the nine FIFA officials and five corporate executives indicted for racketeering conspiracy and corruption, the Warner brothers are among six individuals and corporations that have pleaded guilty.

According to the US Justice Department -

. On July 15, 2013, the defendant Daryll Warner, son of defendant Jack Warner and a former FIFA development officer, waived indictment and pleaded guilty to a two-count information charging him with wire fraud and the structuring of financial transactions.

. On Oct. 25, 2013, the defendant Daryan Warner waived indictment and pleaded guilty to a three-count information charging him with wire fraud conspiracy, money laundering conspiracy and the structuring of financial transactions. Daryan Warner forfeited over $1.1 million around the time of his plea and has agreed to pay a second forfeiture money judgment at the time of sentencing.

According to the US Justice Department: "The indicted and convicted individual defendants face maximum terms of incarceration of 20 years for the RICO conspiracy, wire fraud conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering conspiracy, money laundering and obstruction of justice charges.

In addition, Eugenio Figueredo faces a maximum term of incarceration of 10 years for a charge of naturalization fraud and could have his U.S. citizenship revoked. He also faces a maximum term of incarceration of five years for each tax charge.

Charles Blazer faces a maximum term of incarceration of 10 years for the FBAR charge and five years for the tax evasion charges; and Daryan and Daryll Warner face maximum terms of incarceration of 10 years for structuring financial transactions to evade currency reporting requirements.

Each individual defendant also faces mandatory restitution, forfeiture and a fine. By the terms of their plea agreements, the corporate defendants face fines of $500,000 and one year of probation".

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: leon on May 27, 2015, 04:07:27 PM
This gets worse - Anyway they say no smoke without fire  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: maxg on May 27, 2015, 05:50:04 PM
me thinks is Tsunami Time.. Hold on to something that floats
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: AB.Trini on May 27, 2015, 05:51:30 PM
Leh we begin to follow the YELLOW Brick road in TNT- what does the law state to those who profited from funds from suspect sources?
Which political parties/ Individuals / groups or business inTnT gained from the mark that bust today? Would they all be Implicated?
Is it a twist of irony that there were massive resignations for our Integrity commission? Yuh don't think that our AG was not aware that this was coming down?
Who will it take to weed out corruption in our governing bodies in TnT?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: trini_stallion on May 27, 2015, 09:09:00 PM
Whey Jack Horner.... Jack in jail tonight....
...this has a dynamic to it...the judge is a strong PNMsupporter/ with very close ties to one of it main financiers... And I cld go as far as saying...has personally benefitted whilst Manning was in power.

Dynamic... Now wld it behoove the PNM to want Warner arrested... My answer is no...2.5 mil...that's 250k for warner...chump change...

For the PP however... Big deal...cuz votes won't be split 3 ways...which is always to their disadvantage.

That being said....Mr. Anand d man himself and kamla all benefitted from FIFA money...damn..
It hv a lot more to come...let's see of they cld bring back section 34...I mean jack was a past UNC financier like ish nd Steve

Let's sit back and enjoy the show... Sure to be a dramatic one..

Jack burn his bridges...he will be extradited..with him around...UNC not winning no election... And hopefully Tim kee doesn't either..


Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Tallman on May 28, 2015, 04:54:14 AM
Daryan Warner's indictment document (http://www.justice.gov/opa/file/450221/download)

Daryll Warner's indictment document (http://www.justice.gov/opa/file/450226/download)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: maxg on May 28, 2015, 05:15:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzNQfzIRZJg
Title: FIFA brothers scrambled to deposit cash hoard at U.S. banks, U.S. court document
Post by: Tallman on May 29, 2015, 07:58:41 AM
FIFA brothers scrambled to deposit cash hoard at U.S. banks, U.S. court documents show
By Douwe Miedema (Reuters)


Two brothers who pleaded guilty in the FIFA soccer bribery scandal deposited large sums of cash in a frenzied series of visits to U.S. banks, hoping to avoid detection by authorities, U.S. court documents released this week showed.

Daryan and Daryll Warner, sons of former FIFA Vice President Jack Warner, and their associates deposited more than $600,000 in cash at bank branches in New York, Miami and Las Vegas in the second half of 2011, according to a 2012 complaint in U.S. District Court in New York that was unsealed on Wednesday.

In one two-day period, the pair parked $128,313.38 in 23 separate deposits into accounts at Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Citibank and Wells Fargo through the use of tellers and ATMs.

The complaint against the Warners, who are citizens of Trinidad and Tobago, showed that they made sure none of their deposits exceeded the $10,000 threshold above which banks have to file a report to U.S. authorities.

On Wednesday, the U.S. Department of Justice charged nine officials at FIFA, the global body governing soccer, and five corporate executives with running a criminal enterprise that involved more than $150 million in bribes.

Daryan Warner, one of a group of four others who had pleaded guilty, became a cooperating witness in the FBI's probe. This was first reported by Reuters in 2013.

Banks will also be looked at in the investigation, authorities said on Wednesday, though it was too early to say whether there had been any wrongdoing.

The U.S. indictment alleged that the defendants relied heavily on the U.S. banking system to avoid detection, in often complex schemes with fake invoices and numbered accounts, at banks across the globe.

In one case, a teller at a JPMorgan Chase branch on New York's Broadway said she had asked somebody for his driver's license when he wanted to deposit 7,500 euros, which at the time translated to an amount just above the reporting threshold.

The person then asked to be handed back 500 euros, which lowered the sum to $9,336.60. Earlier that day, a similar amount had been deposited at JPMorgan in Queens. The following day, another 7,000 euros was deposited at the Broadway branch.

Daryll Warner in his guilty plea admitted that he had deliberately broken up deposits into amounts of less than $10,000 to avoid the reporting requirements.

JPMorgan declined comment. Wells Fargo and Bank of America did not immediately return a request for comment. Citi has said it has cooperated with Justice.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on May 31, 2015, 09:52:22 AM
Whey Jack Horner....

 :waiting:
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Flex on June 03, 2015, 02:17:21 AM
Warner’s sons aided US.
T&T Express.


A son of a former FIFA executive secretly agreed in 2013 to cooperate with United States authorities and admit to participating in a World Cup ticket-reselling scheme, according to a court transcript released on Monday.

The transcript confirmed that Daryan Warner, like his brother Daryll, had agreed to assist US authorities as part of separate plea deals. The transcript, ordered released by a federal judge in Brooklyn, New York, contained Daryan Warner's guilty plea.

Both men are sons of former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner, who was among 14 individuals indicted for engaging in a corruption scheme at FIFA that authorities said involved more than $150 million (£98.6 million in bribes.

The transcript showed that in Daryan Warner's cooperation deal, prosecutors agreed not to charge him with fraud and money laundering in connection with aiding and abetting an alleged bribe payment by the South African Bid Committee connected to its bid to host the 2010 World Cup.

That agreement signalled a potential area of testimony by him should the larger case against the 14 go to trial, as prosecutors allege that Jack Warner solicited payments worth $10 million from the South African government. He denies wrongdoing.

Benjamin Brafman, Daryan Warner's lawyer, declined to comment on Monday.

In unveiling the charges against the 14 last Wednesday, US authorities disclosed that four people and two corporate entities had secretly pleaded guilty but declined to confirm they were cooperating.

Transcripts subsequently released for the two Warner brothers' pleas have since confirmed they are cooperating.

Daryan's cooperation was first reported by Reuters in 2013. A July 2013 plea transcript obtained on Wednesday confirmed that Daryll Warner, a former FIFA development officer, was also cooperating.

Daryan Warner pleaded guilty in October 2013 to wire fraud conspiracy, money laundering conspiracy and the structuring of financial transactions to evade bank reporting requirements.

At the hearing, Daryan Warner admitted that he agreed with others to buy tickets to the 2006 and 2010 World Cups and resell them at a “substantial profit.”

Daryan Warner said he bought the tickets directly from FIFA in 2006, misleading it about the role of an unnamed individual because he “believed that FIFA would not have sold them to me had he been involved.”

Charging documents say that FIFA became aware he resold the tickets and that he believed he would not be able to buy them in 2010.

Nevertheless, Warner said he bought tickets from others to mislead FIFA. Charging documents describe those individuals as two unnamed family members who then were FIFA officials.


Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sam on June 03, 2015, 09:06:01 AM
You mean these 2 cockroaches go walk free?

Mafias doh like rats, they better have heavy security.

 :rotfl:

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Mose on June 03, 2015, 09:45:00 AM
Not likely. They have them on certain things and they done plead guilty on them. They not going to charge them on others if they cooperate and "sell out" the big fish.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on June 03, 2015, 11:50:35 AM
Warner’s sons aided US.
T&T Express.


Benjamin Brafman, Daryan Warner's lawyer, declined to comment on Monday.

Brafman?  Daryan wasn't playing... go hard or go home.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: asylumseeker on June 03, 2015, 11:51:05 AM
Warner’s sons aided US.
T&T Express.


Benjamin Brafman, Daryan Warner's lawyer, declined to comment on Monday.

Brafman?  Daryan wasn't playing... go hard or go home.

Ent. (Although the "going home" bit is ... hmmm).
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on June 03, 2015, 11:53:17 AM
Ent.

Curious to see what kinda plea he was able to negotiate for him.  I still predicting 3 years plus probation, on top of the $1.3 million dollar fine he already agree to pay.
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: maxg on June 03, 2015, 03:27:16 PM
Whey Jack Horner....

 :waiting:
busy trying to find a Bois Bande forest to help Jack rise again
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Sam on June 03, 2015, 03:44:43 PM
Warner’s sons aided US.
T&T Express.


A son of a former FIFA executive secretly agreed in 2013 to cooperate with United States authorities and admit to participating in a World Cup ticket-reselling scheme, according to a court transcript released on Monday.

The transcript confirmed that Daryan Warner, like his brother Daryll, had agreed to assist US authorities as part of separate plea deals. The transcript, ordered released by a federal judge in Brooklyn, New York, contained Daryan Warner's guilty plea.

Both men are sons of former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner, who was among 14 individuals indicted for engaging in a corruption scheme at FIFA that authorities said involved more than $150 million (£98.6 million in bribes.

The transcript showed that in Daryan Warner's cooperation deal, prosecutors agreed not to charge him with fraud and money laundering in connection with aiding and abetting an alleged bribe payment by the South African Bid Committee connected to its bid to host the 2010 World Cup.

That agreement signalled a potential area of testimony by him should the larger case against the 14 go to trial, as prosecutors allege that Jack Warner solicited payments worth $10 million from the South African government. He denies wrongdoing.

Benjamin Brafman, Daryan Warner's lawyer, declined to comment on Monday.

In unveiling the charges against the 14 last Wednesday, US authorities disclosed that four people and two corporate entities had secretly pleaded guilty but declined to confirm they were cooperating.

Transcripts subsequently released for the two Warner brothers' pleas have since confirmed they are cooperating.

Daryan's cooperation was first reported by Reuters in 2013. A July 2013 plea transcript obtained on Wednesday confirmed that Daryll Warner, a former FIFA development officer, was also cooperating.

Daryan Warner pleaded guilty in October 2013 to wire fraud conspiracy, money laundering conspiracy and the structuring of financial transactions to evade bank reporting requirements.

At the hearing, Daryan Warner admitted that he agreed with others to buy tickets to the 2006 and 2010 World Cups and resell them at a “substantial profit.”

Daryan Warner said he bought the tickets directly from FIFA in 2006, misleading it about the role of an unnamed individual because he “believed that FIFA would not have sold them to me had he been involved.”

Charging documents say that FIFA became aware he resold the tickets and that he believed he would not be able to buy them in 2010.

Nevertheless, Warner said he bought tickets from others to mislead FIFA. Charging documents describe those individuals as two unnamed family members who then were FIFA officials.




So wait, Jack Warner son sold him out?

But what de jail is this boy.

 :rotfl: :rotfl:

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: FF on June 03, 2015, 08:20:48 PM
Anybody catch Jack on TV tonight?
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Bakes on June 03, 2015, 08:39:03 PM
Disgraced former FIFA vice president Jack Warner 'fears for his life'
(Associated Press)


MARABELLA, Trinidad -- Former FIFA vice president Jack Warner made a televised address in Trinidad on Wednesday night, saying he will prove a link between soccer's governing body and his nation's elections in 2010.

"I will no longer keep secrets for them who actively seek to destroy the country," Warner said.

Warner also said in the address, which was a paid political advertisement, that "I reasonably actually fear for my life."

Still, a half-hour after the speech aired, Warner appeared at his Independent Liberal Party's rally held under a canopy on a residential street. At least a couple hundred people were present when Warner spoke, many of them having not seen the televised remarks.

Warner said he has documents and checks that link FIFA officials, including embattled President Sepp Blatter, to the 2010 election in Trinidad and Tobago.

"I apologize for not disclosing my knowledge of these events before," Warner said.

At his rally, a half-hour into his remarks, Warner -- mopping sweat from his forehead several times -- told supporters that he will not hold back in his newfound plan to expose scandal.

He said he has compiled reams of documents and is delivering them to his attorneys, for them to disseminate as they see fit.

"Not even death will stop the avalanche that is coming," Warner said as his supporters cheered in celebration. "The die is cast. There can be no turning back. Let the chips fall where they fall."

Warner also said that when he heard Blatter was stepping down, he wrote him to urge his immediate departure from FIFA.

"Blatter knows why he fell. And if anyone else knows, I do," Warner said.

http://www.espnfc.us/fifa-world-cup/story/2478293/former-fifa-vice-president-jack-warner-fears-for-his-life
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Cocorite on June 03, 2015, 10:55:22 PM
Be SURE your sins will find you out. (Numbers 32:23)
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Flex on June 04, 2015, 01:54:11 AM
Jack claims Fifa $$$ funded PP.
T&T Guardian Reports.


Embattled former Fifa vice-president and Independent Liberal Party (ILP) leader Jack Warner is now saying that there is a link between Fifa’s millions and the successful People’s Partnership political campaign in 2010.

During an eight-minute address to the nation last night, Warner said he had compiled a series of cheques and supporting documents that corroborate his financial support to the PP's successful general campaign in 2010 and its link to Fifa. These documents have already been put in the hands of his attorneys.

“The link between Fifa, its funding and me, the link between Fifa, its funding and the United National Congress and the People’s Partnership government,” Warner said.

“These documents deal with the Section 34 fiasco, it also deals with my knowledge of the transactions at Fifa, including but not limited to its president Mr Sepp Blatter and lastly other matters involving the nation’s current Prime Minister.”

Warner said because he is now genuinely afraid for his life, he has passed the packet of documents on to several lawyers and the matter is now out of his hands.

“It is beyond even my own reach, retracting them is an impossibility. There can be no turning back,” he said.

He said his lawyers were making contact with local and foreign law enforcement officials based on the material contained in his statements.

“Even if these approaches do not bear fruit, my careful dissemination on the material to certain persons of standing in society means there can be no reversal,” he said, adding that this was a sad turn of events.

Warner apologised for not speaking out on these matters sooner and did not offer an explanation as to why he kept these ‘secrets’ away from the public.

“My judgement was initially that the People’s Partnership, as bad as it was, and still is, was better for this country than any other government, except possibly a government of the ILP,” he said.

“I will no longer keep secrets for them, I will no longer keep secrets for those persons who seek to actively destroy this country's hard-won international image.

“At the age of 72 years old, I have no intention of allowing them of depriving me of my freedom.”

Warner admitted that he had neglected his family for years and now they were experiencing a “turbulent future,” but said he had placed his own future in the hands of his constituents.

“I have told the truth in my statements and before you tonight, and with God’s grace, the people of this country will in due course make a judgement on the basis of what I said to them,” he said and asked for the people to pray for him and his family.

Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Brownsugar on June 04, 2015, 09:39:11 AM
So ah had some time in mih hands this morning so ah went back over this thread and take een how the whole thing evolved.  Is all kinda thing all yuh post.  The thread threaten to derail twice.  One with the woman she pole and the other time with a setta racism talk.

But one thing is for certain.....the old adage where there is smoke there is fire is very true in this scenario......
Title: Re: Jack Warner sons arrested?
Post by: Flex on June 06, 2015, 04:55:54 AM
Jack’s sons lie
By Darcel Choy
T&T Newsday


Daryll Warner, son of former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner who pleaded guilty in July 2013, lied to get a mortgage loan to purchase a condominium in Miami, Florida for his brother Daryan, his father and himself, according to court records.

Prosecutors in the US District Court, Eastern District, New York, yesterday unsealed the plea hearing transcripts of Daryll and Daryan.

Daryll, like his brother, waived indictment and pleaded guilty to wire fraud, and structuring funds as to evade bank reporting requirements while Daryan pleaded guilty to wire fraud conspiracy, money laundering conspiracy and the structuring of financial transaction to evade bank reporting requirements.

According to Daryll’s court transcript released yesterday, Daryll testified that in late 2005, his family determined that he would be the one to purchase the apartment and seek mortgage financing for the apartment.

Daryll said, “In October 2005, I began the process of obtaining a mortgage loan to be secured for the condo. For that purpose, I applied for a loan with Sunbelt Lending Services. In the effort to qualify for the loan I provided the mortgage lender with inaccurate information regarding the location of my employment and the amount of my monthly income among other things. I did so with the knowledge that the information was false and with the intent to qualify for a loan which I knew I might not qualify if I provided accurate information.”

“In furtherance of closing on the condominium on December 26, 2005. I sent an email from Trinidad and Tobago where I was at the time, to my loan officer who was based in Florida. In the email I sought to delay the closing by a few days because I needed additional time to obtain the fund necessary to close on the condominium. I ultimately closed on the condominium several days later.”

US District Judge William Kontz stopped Daryll’s testimony to ask, “You stated sir that you might not qualify had you provided accurate information. Did you think that there was a possibility that you would have qualified had you provided accurate information?” Daryll replied, “No, Your Honour.”

The judge asked, “Did you understand that you would not qualify for the loan if you provided the truth?” Daryll replied, “Yes, Your Honour.”

Told to describe in his own words what he did to commit the crimes charged in count two (structuring funds), Daryll said, “Between July 2011 and December 2011, I engaged in a number of transactions at financial institutions in the Miami, Florida area. During this period I had a general understanding that making a cash deposit of more than US$10,000 into a bank account would trigger a requirement on the part of the bank to issue a report which would include information regarding the source of funds. Based upon this understanding and in connection with some of the transactions I made, during the above six-month period, I took steps intended to avoid this reporting requirement.”

Daryll said in some instances, he “deliberately” broke up deposits into amounts of less than US$10,000 in order to avoid the filing of the requisite report.

“I engaged in such deposits and other transactions intending to avoid the reporting requirements in connection with more than US$100,000 in transactions in the above six month period,” he said.

In Daryan’s transcript, he admitted he was among a group which agreed to buy and resell tickets for the 2006 and 2010 World Cups at a substantial profit. The transcript showed that the court had problems understanding Daryan during his testimony. Kontz at one point told Daryan, “Take your time. Take a drink of water. Slowly and loudly. Channel your inner Lord Vader, not your inner Woody Allen, okay? That’s what I say all the time.”

Daryan told the judge, “it’s the price of a West Indies accent.”  Kontz replied, “I understand. And also the price of a Woody Allen accent of being New Yorkers. Take your time. This is very important. Go ahead.”

Daryan said between 2005 and 2011, within the Southern District of Florida, “I agreed with others to purchase tickets to the 2006 and 2010 FIFA World Cup and resell at a substantial profit. In 2006, I purchased the tickets directly from FIFA and I misled FIFA to believe that my partner in reselling the tickets was not involved in the transaction because I believed that FIFA would not have sold them to me had he been involved.

“In 2010, I purchased tickets from others in order to mislead FIFA to believe that I was not receiving tickets, because I believed that FIFA would no longer sell tickets directly to me. In furtherance of this agreement, I sent and received emails across state and international lines. In between 2005 and 2011, within the Southern District of Florida and elsewhere, I agreed with others to complete wire transfers from the United States to and from a place outside of the United States to further the previously-mentioned fraud to resell tickets to the 2007 and 2010 World Cups.”

Addressing the charge of structuring funds, Daryan said, “in between July 2011 and December 2011, in Queens, New York and other places, I deposited cash into domestic banks in amounts less than US$10,000 to avoid the banks filing the requisite reports for cash deposits in excess of US$10,000 I was aware that the banks was obligated to report currency transactions in excess of US$10,000 and I made the deposits in smaller amounts to evade this requirement. I made the deposits and violated the law as part of a pattern of illegal activity.”

Kontz stopped him and asked, “I made the deposits as part of a pattern of illegality. Is that what you said, sir?”

Daryan replied, “Yes, Your Honour.” He continued, “involving more than US$100,000 within the July 2011 to December 2011 period.”

Daryan and Daryll face maximum terms of incarceration of ten years for structuring financial transactions to evade currency reporting requirements. Each individual defendant also faces mandatory restitution, forfeiture and a fine. By the terms of their plea agreements, the corporate defendants face fines of US$500,000 and one year of probation.