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Title: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: Tallman on March 06, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFF)


Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior Team will continue its preparations for the CONCACAF Gold Cup with another friendly international at home on March 22nd against Central American opponents Belize.

The match will take place at the Ato Boldon Stadium (due to the unavailability of other stadiums currently under refurbishment). T&T will also travel to Lima to face Peru’s senior team in a return friendly on March 26th.

The upcoming friendlies gives the T&T coaching staff the opportunity to have a look at some players who may not have been involved in the recent friendly against Peru with the approach geared towards selecting the best possible squad to represent this country at the 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup in the United States.

Middlesbrough and former Arsenal defender Justin Hoyte has been called to the squad. Hoyte communicated with the  TTFF last month and has expressed his willingness to join the National Team for the upcoming games. The 28-year-old Hoyte was capped 18 times for the England U-21 team, and played all four matches at the 2007 UEFA Under-21 Championship. He made his debut for Arsenal at age 18 in a 6-1 victory over Southampton.  Hoyte later went on to join Sunderland on loan where he played before joining “Boro” on £3 million transfer in 2008.

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Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: theworm2345 on March 06, 2013, 04:55:13 PM
Middlesbrough and former Arsenal defender Justin Hoyte has been called to the squad. Hoyte communicated with the  TTFF last month and has expressed his willingness to join the National Team for the upcoming games. The 28-year-old Hoyte was capped 18 times for the England U-21 team, and played all four matches at the 2007 UEFA Under-21 Championship. He made his debut for Arsenal at age 18 in a 6-1 victory over Southampton.  Hoyte later went on to join Sunderland on loan where he played before joining “Boro” on £3 million transfer in 2008.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=11818.0

Interested in hearing the reaction :D


Otherwise the squad is starting to sound good, would've liked to see recalls for Andre Boucaud and Jlloyd though.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: asylumseeker on March 06, 2013, 05:10:29 PM
We shouldn't be playing Belize.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: de_redman on March 06, 2013, 05:53:55 PM
We shouldn't be playing Belize.
:bs:
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: asylumseeker on March 06, 2013, 06:04:01 PM
No, the bullshit is playing Belize.

Aside from merely gehhin a sweat (which isn't a sufficiently compelling or justifiable footballing reason), there's no compelling or justifiable reason to play Belize.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: Football supporter on March 06, 2013, 06:58:25 PM
Funny thing is, Central F.C. received a letter dated March 4th asking us to release Marvin Phillip for two games:

El Salvador in Trinidad on March 22nd
Peru in Peru on March 26th

Go figure.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: weary1969 on March 06, 2013, 07:20:44 PM
Funny thing is, Central F.C. received a letter dated March 4th asking us to release Marvin Phillip for two games:

El Salvador in Trinidad on March 22nd
Peru in Peru on March 26th

Go figure.


El Salvador blank we so Belize agree. Remind me what happen d last time we play Belize.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: tempo on March 06, 2013, 07:22:39 PM
Wow, based on the responses, it seems that some have forgotten that T&T is ranked 71 and not likely to get major teams on a regular basis. What is important is they don't let FIFA dates go to waste. Can't please em all I guess.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: truetrini on March 06, 2013, 08:06:24 PM
Wow, based on the responses, it seems that some have forgotten that T&T is ranked 71 and not likely to get major teams on a regular basis. What is important is they don't let FIFA dates go to waste. Can't please em all I guess.
Wow, based on the responses, it seems that some have forgotten that T&T is ranked 71 and not likely to get major teams on a regular basis. What is important is they don't let FIFA dates go to waste. Can't please em all I guess.

why waste your f**king time???  Seriously?   Just take a side ways view.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: andre samuel on March 06, 2013, 08:12:39 PM
I dont see a problem with us playing Belize.......can please trinis atall.........no game for 12 months,  now we getting 3 games in 2 months and people vex.

They also qualified for the Gold Cup.

Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: Trini _2026 on March 06, 2013, 08:26:51 PM
john bostock is eligible ...  hotye  gave up on playing for England .. gavin will join soon ...... what we need now is a strikers ......
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: Cocorite on March 06, 2013, 08:32:45 PM
Very Good. Let the friendlies begin.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: FireBrand on March 06, 2013, 08:38:47 PM
Middlesbrough and former Arsenal defender Justin Hoyte has been called to the squad. Hoyte communicated with the  TTFF last month and has expressed his willingness to join the National Team for the upcoming games. The 28-year-old Hoyte was capped 18 times for the England U-21 team, and played all four matches at the 2007 UEFA Under-21 Championship. He made his debut for Arsenal at age 18 in a 6-1 victory over Southampton.  Hoyte later went on to join Sunderland on loan where he played before joining “Boro” on £3 million transfer in 2008.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=11818.0

Interested in hearing the reaction :D


Otherwise the squad is starting to sound good, would've liked to see recalls for Andre Boucaud and Jlloyd though.

Same here... Would have liked to see what Boucaud has to offer especially since he is doing so well at Notts County, but like he piss in somebody cornflakes. Hope they give him a call before the Cup.


Belize and Peru are two decent friendlies...better than what we were getting for the past couple years.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: asylumseeker on March 06, 2013, 09:31:29 PM
I dont see a problem with us playing Belize.......can please trinis atall.........no game for 12 months,  now we getting 3 games in 2 months and people vex.

They also qualified for the Gold Cup.


Precisely.

Wow, based on the responses, it seems that some have forgotten that T&T is ranked 71 and not likely to get major teams on a regular basis. What is important is they don't let FIFA dates go to waste. Can't please em all I guess.

FULLY AGREE!

Ranking isn't part of my objection. Heck, we played India the other day, and I didn't express a contrary view. If we were playing Vanuatu or Yemen this rounds, it would raise meh eyebrow but I wouldn't object on the basis that I'm objecting.

We have footage of complete UNCAF games (including Belize's ... I posted them a while back) ... maybe through this "venture" we get to test Belize versus what we can glean from the footage. If Corneal, Shabazz and Charles really paying attention, then ah doh have to remind them that they could also source some looks from the WC qualifier that Belize played v. Montserrat on our soil at the Ato Boldon oh not so long ago.

Ah not asking for a major team ... that would be fanciful. I'm asking for a team appropriate for our preparations.

I'm dubious about the wisdom of playing a fellow GC qualifier at this juncture. Frankly, when I read "Belize", I thought ... hmmm, good opponent for our U23s. Also, equally good opportunity to scout them without sacrificing anything. I didn't believe we were thinking senior international game.
 
The happy revelation here is that FS suggests Belize is a default or accidental opponent. Less happy is that we wanted El Salvador at this juncture. Wham we picking willy nilly?

Playing Peru in the two legs brought and brings a lot to the table. Although the invitation emanated from the Peruvians, I credit the TTFF for making it happen. (That arrangement came at a time when I had already looked into seeing Peru play Chile on 3/22 @ home and then ketch Chile v Uruguay on 3/26. If it comes down to it ... ah still ketching Chile v Uruguay over our return leg v Peru on the same date).

I think we all appreciate that we got more than a mere sweat from the Peru match.  However, I'm not sold on the value of playing Belize.

There are other opponents that could provide the rigour in preparation that we seek without sacrificing actually playing a GC qualifier. Since someone sure to ask ... let me be specific.

In Central America, I would have gone with Guatemala. (They were undefeated during the group stages at the UNCAF but couldn't get out of the group in the Italian way ... 3 draws, 3 points; this includes a draw v. Costa Rica). They're also not involved in the Hex ... so at least on paper available.

From the island chain, I would suggest Martinique, the Dominican Republic or possibly Guadeloupe.

Ah really not trying to be difficult. Belize in the past has played Honduran club opposition to prepare for competition, lehwe not geh outsmarted please. And on that ... reminds me of something else regarding WC qualifications to come, not this tourney ... we could benefit from playing teams in the Ascenso (Mexican second division) ... play mirrors the look of Central American opponents that are not Mexico.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: elan on March 06, 2013, 11:00:53 PM
I dont see a problem with us playing Belize.......can please trinis atall.........no game for 12 months,  now we getting 3 games in 2 months and people vex.

They also qualified for the Gold Cup.


Precisely.

Wow, based on the responses, it seems that some have forgotten that T&T is ranked 71 and not likely to get major teams on a regular basis. What is important is they don't let FIFA dates go to waste. Can't please em all I guess.

FULLY AGREE!

Ranking isn't part of my objection. Heck, we played India the other day, and I didn't express a contrary view. If we were playing Vanuatu or Yemen this rounds, it would raise meh eyebrow but I wouldn't object on the basis that I'm objecting.

We have footage of complete UNCAF games (including Belize's ... I posted them a while back) ... maybe through this "venture" we get to test Belize versus what we can glean from the footage. If Corneal, Shabazz and Charles really paying attention, then ah doh have to remind them that they could also source some looks from the WC qualifier that Belize played v. Montserrat on our soil at the Ato Boldon oh not so long ago.

Ah not asking for a major team ... that would be fanciful. I'm asking for a team appropriate for our preparations.

I'm dubious about the wisdom of playing a fellow GC qualifier at this juncture. Frankly, when I read "Belize", I thought ... hmmm, good opponent for our U23s. Also, equally good opportunity to scout them without sacrificing anything. I didn't believe we were thinking senior international game.
 
The happy revelation here is that FS suggests Belize is a default or accidental opponent. Less happy is that we wanted El Salvador at this juncture. Wham we picking willy nilly?

Playing Peru in the two legs brought and brings a lot to the table. Although the invitation emanated from the Peruvians, I credit the TTFF for making it happen. (That arrangement came at a time when I had already looked into seeing Peru play Chile on 3/22 @ home and then ketch Chile v Uruguay on 3/26. If it comes down to it ... ah still ketching Chile v Uruguay over our return leg v Peru on the same date).

I think we all appreciate that we got more than a mere sweat from the Peru match.  However, I'm not sold on the value of playing Belize.

There are other opponents that could provide the rigour in preparation that we seek without sacrificing actually playing a GC qualifier. Since someone sure to ask ... let me be specific.

In Central America, I would have gone with Guatemala. (They were undefeated during the group stages at the UNCAF but couldn't get out of the group in the Italian way ... 3 draws, 3 points; this includes a draw v. Costa Rica). They're also not involved in the Hex ... so at least on paper available.

From the island chain, I would suggest Martinique, the Dominican Republic or possibly Guadeloupe.

Ah really not trying to be difficult. Belize in the past has played Honduran club opposition to prepare for competition, lehwe not geh outsmarted please. And on that ... reminds me of something else regarding WC qualifications to come, not this tourney ... we could benefit from playing teams in the Ascenso (Mexican second division) ... play mirrors the look of Central American opponents that are not Mexico.

As men say take ah sweat, look how long we on de sidelines. Fore-thought is and after-thought in these parts (T&T).
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: coache on March 06, 2013, 11:11:43 PM
After this practice match we'll be playing like Belize..tiki..takka..
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: King Deese on March 07, 2013, 12:29:52 AM
Saw Bostock in a preseason game recently, I think it was for Toronto FC, where he played as a left side mid...he has some talent on the ball...looked very good, as a matter of fact, he stood out on that side of play. Toronto just couldn't pay the asking price before the transfer fell through.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: trini_stallion on March 07, 2013, 04:36:50 AM
Belize bettwr than kicking rocks...end of story...kudos to the ttff...atleast men going and sweat...we was only juckin not to long ago!
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 07, 2013, 07:26:18 AM
Belize bettwr than kicking rocks...end of story...kudos to the ttff...atleast men going and sweat...we was only juckin not to long ago!

Agreed, to a certain extent. Yes, the match play is good, but I think we would be better served playing a another Latin American or South American team, as the majority of the opposition in the Gold Cup is going to come from this region.

However, with that said, I will take it.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: de_redman on March 07, 2013, 07:41:05 AM
Belize bettwr than kicking rocks...end of story...kudos to the ttff...atleast men going and sweat...we was only juckin not to long ago!

Agreed, to a certain extent. Yes, the match play is good, but I think we would be better served playing a another Latin American or South American team, as the majority of the opposition in the Gold Cup is going to come from this region.

However, with that said, I will take it.
What an odd statement... They speak more Spanish than English and are part of Central America, and more importantly play amongst the latin american teams in competion are are currently doing quite well... We trinis love to fight down just for the sake of it  :yapping: ... but keep on talking...
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: Sam on March 07, 2013, 07:43:26 AM
Good going by the TTFF.

FS, dont be surprise, they does get mix up alot.

By de way, Belize qualify for the Gold Cup first time in history, they maynot be a bad test, de last time we played them we couldn't even beat them.

De only problem with playing these small teams in, de TTFF will not sell much tickets.

Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: Trini _2026 on March 07, 2013, 07:48:44 AM
Saw Bostock in a preseason game recently, I think it was for Toronto FC, where he played as a left side mid...he has some talent on the ball...looked very good, as a matter of fact, he stood out on that side of play. Toronto just couldn't pay the asking price before the transfer fell through.

you mean san jose bostock was there with cato
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: kaliman2006 on March 07, 2013, 08:35:31 AM
Belize bettwr than kicking rocks...end of story...kudos to the ttff...atleast men going and sweat...we was only juckin not to long ago!

Agreed, to a certain extent. Yes, the match play is good, but I think we would be better served playing a another Latin American or South American team, as the majority of the opposition in the Gold Cup is going to come from this region.

However, with that said, I will take it.
What an odd statement... They speak more Spanish than English and are part of Central America, and more importantly play amongst the latin american teams in competion are are currently doing quite well... We trinis love to fight down just for the sake of it  :yapping: ... but keep on talking...

I know they are part of Central America, so I am not sure why you felt the need to indicate that. With that said, I meant to say more recognized opposition.

There is nothing odd about my statement. If you wanted clarification, all you had to do was ask. Hopefully, civility is not lost on some people.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: asylumseeker on March 07, 2013, 08:59:16 AM
Belize bettwr than kicking rocks...end of story...kudos to the ttff...atleast men going and sweat...we was only juckin not to long ago!

Agreed, to a certain extent. Yes, the match play is good, but I think we would be better served playing a another Latin American or South American team, as the majority of the opposition in the Gold Cup is going to come from this region.

However, with that said, I will take it.
What an odd statement... They speak more Spanish than English and are part of Central America, and more importantly play amongst the latin american teams in competion are are currently doing quite well... We trinis love to fight down just for the sake of it  :yapping: ... but keep on talking...

Quite an authoritative statement ... I just wish it was factual. The geography is correct though.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: de_redman on March 07, 2013, 09:14:01 AM
Belize bettwr than kicking rocks...end of story...kudos to the ttff...atleast men going and sweat...we was only juckin not to long ago!

Agreed, to a certain extent. Yes, the match play is good, but I think we would be better served playing a another Latin American or South American team, as the majority of the opposition in the Gold Cup is going to come from this region.

However, with that said, I will take it.
What an odd statement... They speak more Spanish than English and are part of Central America, and more importantly play amongst the latin american teams in competion are are currently doing quite well... We trinis love to fight down just for the sake of it  :yapping: ... but keep on talking...

Quite an authoritative statement ... I just wish it was factual. The geography is correct though.
For my education, can you please indicate what is not factual?
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: asylumseeker on March 07, 2013, 09:27:51 AM
Belize bettwr than kicking rocks...end of story...kudos to the ttff...atleast men going and sweat...we was only juckin not to long ago!

Agreed, to a certain extent. Yes, the match play is good, but I think we would be better served playing a another Latin American or South American team, as the majority of the opposition in the Gold Cup is going to come from this region.

However, with that said, I will take it.
What an odd statement... They speak more Spanish than English and are part of Central America, and more importantly play amongst the latin american teams in competion are are currently doing quite well... We trinis love to fight down just for the sake of it  :yapping: ... but keep on talking...

Quite an authoritative statement ... I just wish it was factual. The geography is correct though.
For my education, can you please indicate what is not factual?

I did by referring to the one item I mentioned. Nonetheless, starting on the issue of language ... strictly speaking, "Belizeans" speak more English than Spanish.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: King Deese on March 07, 2013, 10:07:33 AM
Saw Bostock in a preseason game recently, I think it was for Toronto FC, where he played as a left side mid...he has some talent on the ball...looked very good, as a matter of fact, he stood out on that side of play. Toronto just couldn't pay the asking price before the transfer fell through.

you mean san jose bostock was there with cato

My bad.....you are correct.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: coache on March 07, 2013, 11:14:24 PM
we will beat Belize bad..5-nil
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: Tallman on March 08, 2013, 04:01:33 PM
I still waiting to see if these players who have T&T ancestry/heritage through their grandparents are really eligible to play for T&T in a competitive match.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: coache on March 08, 2013, 04:46:12 PM
I really feel that if Hudson Charles...left alone to prepare this team ..will beat Belize 5-0..somehow I have this belief because I see how his teams play. I have no doubt Shabazz will bring confusion..no doubt..
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: King on March 08, 2013, 09:10:13 PM
 

Belize is much better than some people here think.
Costa Rica struggled to beat Belize (1-0). Guatemala (1-1) failed to beat them and both Honduras (1-0) and El Salvador (1-0) barely beat at the quarter-final stage and the third-place playoff recently at the   2013 Copa Centroamericana . That is why Belize  reached the semi-final and qualified for the Gold Cup for the first time.
Remember Guatemala did not make it, and Panama only scrape through as the 5th place qualifier.
Belize is a much improved team with a Costa Rican coach. I feel we will also struggle to beat them or get a 0-0 draw like when we played them last time.
Title: Re: T&T to host Belize in Friendly International on March 22nd
Post by: coache on March 08, 2013, 10:03:18 PM
As a coach you have to focus first on your own team..put your house in order first..then worry about the opponent. I feel as long as Hutson Charles prepare his team..the best way he knows how he will beat Belize by five. Keep Shabazz away...he'll confuse the players with too much tactics..he knows too much ..that is his problem..
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