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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Sando on April 13, 2013, 09:10:28 PM
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What a wonderful find.
We need to groom him for the senior team.
Should make a best 11 for the current tournament in Panama.
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small man have some stuff...well played...
it happens
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Gutted for the kid.. he saved our ass throughout though.. good find indeed... reminds me of De Gea, of course he had to make a mistake to justify my comparison lol
Hopefully he stays within the set up
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welch is good ..... the right back is good also gomez... .Akeem Garica played out of position he is a left winger not a striker ....
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Trinidad has always produced good GK's from Lincoln Phillips to this very day. We could save/groom/develop him for our senior team and shit eh go change, our defence will still be shit. I said pretty much the same thing about Tim Howard and Everton some years ago: if the GK is the best player on the team, that team is in trouble from the start. That being said, Welch being part of the Houston Dynamo acadamy, I expect (if he remains in a good academy system) he will be just fine.
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Welch better leave Trinidad fast ..if he eh leave arready..dey mad!!
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Welch better leave Trinidad fast ..if he eh leave arready..dey mad!!
Coache, if you are really an actual coach, then these comments you're making are a good indication why we are struggling. Criticise by all means, but make it constructive, please. Every goalkeeper makes a mistake in their career that costs the team a result. So does every outfield player, but we kinda focus on the keepers. He knows he made a mistake and it will haunt him forever, but if he's strong he will work on his handling and improve.
The boy is young and by all accounts played very well throughout the campaign. The last thing he needs is to read this kind of negativity.
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Yo like somebody else post, we was good for about 6, 7 goal tonight if not for him, he had ah lapse in concentration on that goal but he was big on the night!
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Welch better leave Trinidad fast ..if he eh leave arready..dey mad!!
Coache, if you are really an actual coach, then these comments you're making are a good indication why we are struggling. Criticise by all means, but make it constructive, please. Every goalkeeper makes a mistake in their career that costs the team a result. So does every outfield player, but we kinda focus on the keepers. He knows he made a mistake and it will haunt him forever, but if he's strong he will work on his handling and improve.
The boy is young and by all accounts played very well throughout the campaign. The last thing he needs is to read this kind of negativity.
I hope coache drink ah two juice dat have him getting on so, if he under normal vibes, well I just don't know...credibility is ah hell of ah ting yes ;)
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Fyzo, de man already self-flagellating on another thread, yuh go kick him when he down? :rotfl:
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You have no heart! Lets not forget all the great saves he made! Score would have been 6-2 without his outstanding performance!!! And that's being generous.
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You have no heart! Lets not forget all the great saves he made! Score would have been 6-2 without his outstanding performance!!! And that's being generous.
Michelle, I don't know if you're Johan's mother, sister, cousin (I'm pretty sure you're not his wife lol) Welcome to professional football! Unfortunately, there will always be "supporters" who will blame a player disproportionally for a poor result. There will be times that Johan has a very poor game, it happens, and he will receive licks. It's not easy to be a footballers relative! I have sat in stadiums with many players parents and the joy and pride they felt when their boy played well cannot offset the hurt when 30,000 fans are abusing or mocking him.
Supporters are fickle, but most of them are fair.
I recall when Beckham was sent off for England and the whole country blamed him for Englands defeat. There were even effigies of Beckham being hanged in his home town. Now he is the most successful footballer financially, even above Messi and Ronaldo.
I believe Johan will enjoy a successful career, but a lot is dependent on his personal strength and the love and support of his family. Many footballers I know do not read the press. They know if they played well or performed badly. You guys need to be his strength and this experience will only make him stronger.
If you had time, you could search on this site for criticism of great T&T goalkeepers like Clayton Ince, Shaka Hislop, Kelvin Jack, Jan -Michael Williams, Marvin Phillip. It goes with the territory of goalkeepers and, no doubt, explains why all goalkeepers are a little crazy lol
Keep the faith, Michelle. In a few months time everyone will be loving Johan again!!
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Credit must be given where its due ... so to johan welch your performance last night was outstanding ...continue your hardwork and thankyou along with all of your team mates keep your heads up keep courage young warriors .....don't dispair young man....
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This young man has shown his stuff and it bodes well for TnT ; I applaud players who make the sacrifice to bring honour to our nation as oppose to the Zamoras and Deleons who feel like they could help TnT ransom until something else come alone. ( Not to mention K Clemmot in 400 meters track)
We should be encouraging and supporting those overseas players who are making full use of the opportunity. Look given his age, this player could well chose to represent USA after his exposure here but let us think that given teh support, love and desire that he would have a heart to be a WARRIOR!!!
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You have no heart! Lets not forget all the great saves he made! Score would have been 6-2 without his outstanding performance!!! And that's being generous.
M Welch, I'll presume you are his mum.
Your son was huge last night. Were it not for him, TT would
have been down 2 in the first 20 minutes.
Kudos to you for allowing him to play for the country of your
birth, or your husband's birth. As others on this thread have
said, I too hope he stays a Trini, and represents for the U20,
and Olympic team.
The Dynamo have coached him well, and credit to them for
recognizing his talent.
As far as the critics go, you have to realize it comes with
the territory, and be bigger 'dan dat'.
Continued success to your son!
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I interpreted this:
Welch better leave Trinidad fast ..if he eh leave arready..dey mad!!
as a negative reflection of the TTFF and Trinidad's football setup, ie. that if Welch stays within the T&T setup, he will not maximise his potential. I suspect Coache echoes all the sentiments in this thread (Coache, correct me if I'm wrong).
In any case, there is no doubt that Welch is very talented and has a bright future ahead. Michelle, please pass our best wishes on to him :beermug:
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You have no heart! Lets not forget all the great saves he made! Score would have been 6-2 without his outstanding performance!!! And that's being generous.
Dont let one fool upset you , We are all behind Johan who was my MVP for the tournament along with Fortune
Please pass on our congratulations to him
Cheers
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I interpreted this:
Welch better leave Trinidad fast ..if he eh leave arready..dey mad!!
as a negative reflection of the TTFF and Trinidad's football setup, ie. that if Welch stays within the T&T setup, he will not maximise his potential. I suspect Coache echoes all the sentiments in this thread (Coache, correct me if I'm wrong).
In any case, there is no doubt that Welch is very talented and has a bright future ahead. Michelle, please pass our best wishes on to him :beermug:
Good call dey Boss, I agree with that interpretation.
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Well, I for one wasn't sure just quite how "coache" meant for his comment to be interpreted but I left sat shit alone...."leave Trinidad" why? Why would he "leave Trinidad" when we all (at least SHOULD) already know that he does not reside or play in Trinidad or is under any structural or developmental program of any Trinidad institution. Don't we all already know that he lives in Houston and plays for the Houston Dynamo Academy? How could he "leave Trinidad" from there?
***************unless he mean "doh waste he time playing fuh Trinidad again"
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Soca Warriors MVP of the tournament. Performance was outstanding and was very consistent throughout. Very good reader of the game. Very agile and nimble. Good at reading angles. Restarts are very good. Will be a very good professional in the future. Future star in the making. Keep working on your game.
God bless.
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... I'll tell you what I know: a few days ago I noticed a new forumite named "michellewelch", and I said to myself "hmmm, Welch? Unlikely coincidence." And when critical comments started to emerge after Game 1, I thought it was only a matter of time before introductions were made :). Soccer relatives 101.
Here's how I view Johan's participation: :applause: ... And a take-away seems to be that it should awaken us to the need for developing young GK talent on both islands. It would be a shame if we failed to recognize that Johan's presence meant he was the best available to us and that we have wuk to do to cultivate a cohort of age group GKs.
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I watched a Euro Nations Cup final some yrs ago between France and Spain. That time Platini was the big star in Euro. He took a free and the Spanish GK(I can't remember his name, and at that time one of the best in Euro), allowed one like Johan to pass under him. ALMOST EXACTLY. Johan is a good gk. He looked kind of short, but his positional play and his timing coming out was extemely good trhuout this tournament. I hope he will be around for the U-20 and the Rio Olimpics. That will be our WC.
Now, as per coache's comment. I want to believe he was joking or trying to be tongue in cheek. I WANT TO BELIEVE he did not mean what he wrote. But I do not know or I am not sure. Many a foreign player has rep TT, especially youth, and after the tournament they are let down by the TTFF modus operandi. This present TTFF foundation is currently made of JELLO. Just read the current alleged allegations against Jack and TTFF concerning the missing funds for the 2006 WC. Maybe coache is trying to say, "Johan, keep your options open". Just like Nick Deleon is doing. And just like Bobby Zamora and Kerron Clement did in the past. Talk to the Great Ato Bolden about his experiences.
Mums Welch, you married to a Trini. He probably told you how we Trinis does kiss we Heroes today and fire-hydrant them, tomorrow. Have some more patience, PLZ. You have made a good Trini Son. Blessings
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I watched a Euro Nations Cup final some yrs ago between France and Spain. That time Platini was the big star in Euro. He took a free and the Spanish GK(I can't remember his name, and at that time one of the best in Euro)
Luis Arconada is the name yuh lookin' for. Spanish goalkeeping legend and predecessor to another Spanish and Barcelona goalkeeping legend, Andoni Zubizarreta
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Thank you for the kind posts. I will leave you with this.
As far as the warning to critics, I will say this. This is not my first rodeo. I did not post as some emotional mother but as a former college player and coach who has a deep love for the game. I would expect comments like this to be posted for players like Beckham and Messi for three reasons. 1) They are men 2) They are professionals 3) They are paid a large sum of money in return and its their job.
If we don't allow young players to make mistakes and crucify them when they do they will never learn. We learn through our mistakes. As far as the goal haunting him forever. I assure you it will not. Johan will process the mistake, learn from it and move on. For ghosts will drag you to an early grave. Johan has played for the US National Team. He CHOSE to play for the T&T team. It was not a decision he took lightly. He knew he would be making a choice. He wore the jersey with pride and left his heart on the field. He loves his teammates and the coaching staff. It has been a great experience for Johan. As the Dynamo coaches said today, unlucky goal - looks like it took a bad bounce on the turf but a great performance. He is young and will only continue to improve. He works very hard and loves the game! They are a great group of young men and we look forward to the next opportunity. Never stop supporting the next generation of young players - for with positive coaching and fans - these boys will get there. It's only a matter of time. See you in 2 years......
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I watched a Euro Nations Cup final some yrs ago between France and Spain. That time Platini was the big star in Euro. He took a free and the Spanish GK(I can't remember his name, and at that time one of the best in Euro), allowed one like Johan to pass under him. ALMOST EXACTLY. Johan is a good gk. He looked kind of short, but his positional play and his timing coming out was extemely good trhuout this tournament. I hope he will be around for the U-20 and the Rio Olimpics. That will be our WC.
Now, as per coache's comment. I want to believe he was joking or trying to be tongue in cheek. I WANT TO BELIEVE he did not mean what he wrote. But I do not know or I am not sure. Many a foreign player has rep TT, especially youth, and after the tournament they are let down by the TTFF modus operandi. This present TTFF foundation is currently made of JELLO. Just read the current alleged allegations against Jack and TTFF concerning the missing funds for the 2006 WC. Maybe coache is trying to say, "Johan, keep your options open". Just like Nick Deleon is doing. And just like Bobby Zamora and Kerron Clement did in the past. Talk to the Great Ato Bolden about his experiences.
Mums Welch, you married to a Trini. He probably told you how we Trinis does kiss we Heroes today and fire-hydrant them, tomorrow. Have some more patience, PLZ. You have made a good Trini Son. Blessings
exactly what crossed my mind when the goal scored. Fact is the young keeper kept T&T in the game in the first half, with some amazing saves. The defense simply could not contain Panama 10 and 18 who's movement and combinations had the backline chasing shadows. Right after the unfortunate goal, he made a brilliant double save and then save yet another break away. This for me shows strong mental character. He has the potential to go far. Good luck too him
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Thank you for the kind posts. I will leave you with this.
As far as the warning to critics, I will say this. This is not my first rodeo. I did not post as some emotional mother but as a former college player and coach who has a deep love for the game. I would expect comments like this to be posted for players like Beckham and Messi for three reasons. 1) They are men 2) They are professionals 3) They are paid a large sum of money in return and its their job.
If we don't allow young players to make mistakes and crucify them when they do they will never learn. We learn through our mistakes. As far as the goal haunting him forever. I assure you it will not. Johan will process the mistake, learn from it and move on. For ghosts will drag you to an early grave. Johan has played for the US National Team. He CHOSE to play for the T&T team. It was not a decision he took lightly. He knew he would be making a choice. He wore the jersey with pride and left his heart on the field. He loves his teammates and the coaching staff. It has been a great experience for Johan. As the Dynamo coaches said today, unlucky goal - looks like it took a bad bounce on the turf but a great performance. He is young and will only continue to improve. He works very hard and loves the game! They are a great group of young men and we look forward to the next opportunity. Never stop supporting the next generation of young players - for with positive coaching and fans - these boys will get there. It's only a matter of time. See you in 2 years......
*APPLAUSE*
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The GK prove his worth and quality last night nobody should be saying anything negative about this kid.That goal that got past him was as a result of the surface..that kind of surface does that..he had a fabulous game.
Fire de Staff get new people in there now!!!
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I didnot realize he lives in Houston but I was quite impressed with young Welch. I will give him Man of the match. The loss could have been disastrous without him. He had to work too hard as a GK hence the easy goal. Shit happens in football all the time. He has a great future ahead! Kudos!
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Thank you for the kind posts. I will leave you with this.
As far as the warning to critics, I will say this. This is not my first rodeo. I did not post as some emotional mother but as a former college player and coach who has a deep love for the game. I would expect comments like this to be posted for players like Beckham and Messi for three reasons. 1) They are men 2) They are professionals 3) They are paid a large sum of money in return and its their job.
If we don't allow young players to make mistakes and crucify them when they do they will never learn. We learn through our mistakes. As far as the goal haunting him forever. I assure you it will not. Johan will process the mistake, learn from it and move on. For ghosts will drag you to an early grave. Johan has played for the US National Team. He CHOSE to play for the T&T team. It was not a decision he took lightly. He knew he would be making a choice. He wore the jersey with pride and left his heart on the field. He loves his teammates and the coaching staff. It has been a great experience for Johan. As the Dynamo coaches said today, unlucky goal - looks like it took a bad bounce on the turf but a great performance. He is young and will only continue to improve. He works very hard and loves the game! They are a great group of young men and we look forward to the next opportunity. Never stop supporting the next generation of young players - for with positive coaching and fans - these boys will get there. It's only a matter of time. See you in 2 years......
Standout performance by johan welch .... :applause:
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Best young keeper i see in a while. Really gifted
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The GK prove his worth and quality last night nobody should be saying anything negative about this kid.That goal that got past him was as a result of the surface..that kind of surface does that..he had a fabulous game.
Fire de Staff get new people in there now!!!
It was a combination of things, starting with the fact that he was in a bad position. When the man had the ball and look up, Welch was last post when he should have been first and it probably even encourage the man to shoot which left him scrambling to get across his goal. He then went down for the ball in such a way that left no part of his body to stop the ball should it go through his arms, which, unfortunately, it did. That was his ONLY error for the game and even though it cost us a goal, it did not cost us the game. I do agree, though, that the bounce on the turf didn't help but under normal circumstances, with his body better positioned behind the ball, a bad bounce or two still won't get past you. I am NOT bashing the young man, I am just breaking down why (I think) that goal actually scored and if you look at the replay again you might agree that it really was a combination of all those things as well as you may not. I DO agree with your last line. I wouldn't get rid of Cooper or Ross Russell, but (at least) Corneal and them need to go.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/ZpBq0Ol9nY8
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Thank you for the kind posts. I will leave you with this.
As far as the warning to critics, I will say this. This is not my first rodeo. I did not post as some emotional mother but as a former college player and coach who has a deep love for the game. I would expect comments like this to be posted for players like Beckham and Messi for three reasons. 1) They are men 2) They are professionals 3) They are paid a large sum of money in return and its their job.
If we don't allow young players to make mistakes and crucify them when they do they will never learn. We learn through our mistakes. As far as the goal haunting him forever. I assure you it will not. Johan will process the mistake, learn from it and move on. For ghosts will drag you to an early grave. Johan has played for the US National Team. He CHOSE to play for the T&T team. It was not a decision he took lightly. He knew he would be making a choice. He wore the jersey with pride and left his heart on the field. He loves his teammates and the coaching staff. It has been a great experience for Johan. As the Dynamo coaches said today, unlucky goal - looks like it took a bad bounce on the turf but a great performance. He is young and will only continue to improve. He works very hard and loves the game! They are a great group of young men and we look forward to the next opportunity. Never stop supporting the next generation of young players - for with positive coaching and fans - these boys will get there. It's only a matter of time. See you in 2 years......
Thank God for people like you in his corner.
We are quick on the criticizing trigger in T&T.
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He now start he has a long way to go. Height will be a problem for him ......we have good keepers will he be better than jan or Phillips?
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I like de yute, felt for him w/the 2nd goal on Sat, these things happen, only real mistake in a game where the score could have easily been 7 or 8 quite frankly. But that 2nd goal also was the dagger, these are good life lessons, pick up and move on. I enjoyed watching these guys last 2 games, hope they keep up and press on; pave ways for their futures
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He now start he has a long way to go. Height will be a problem for him ......we have good keepers will he be better than jan or Phillips?
I beg to differ. Being a tall GK has its advantages, but being short doesn't necessarily make, conversely, for its disadvantages. I don't know Welch's current height (perhaps his mother can provide that is she feels it's necessary) but at the age of around 17, he still has about 4 years of growth left in him but that's if we really are (to be) concerned with his height. Yes, he isn't all that tall, but his height has not been a factor in this tournament and look at what a brilliant tournament he had. Jorge Campos is arguably Mexico's greatest GK (at least in THIS era) and he is only listed at 5' 6"...imagine how short he was at 16-17 (even though he was probably still an outfield player back then) Indeed, we have to look even no further than our very own shores: Michael McComie, as much as he's an asshole of a person and coach, he was truly an excellent GK and he ain't all that tall.
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Excellent highlights, Trini_2018! They really show the intensity of the atmosphere. I'm not so sure that these qualifying tournaments should be held in any nation involved in qualifying. I don't care how much prep Panama had, they had the benefit of being en casa.
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Excellent highlights, Trini_2018! They really show the intensity of the atmosphere. I'm not so sure that these qualifying tournaments should be held in any nation involved in qualifying. I don't care how much prep Panama had, they had the benefit of being en casa.
Did you say the same thing when Jack was arranging these same qualifiers in T&T?
Anyhow as I said in an earlier post, Johan was exceptional and I wish him all the best. :beermug:
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Fair comment, fordy ... I think most of us recognize that we benefited from hosting. I doh mind host countries as final participants or as non-participants in qualifiers (Brazil in WC 2014), but during qualifying tournaments neutrality adds to the vibe. Of course, a counter-argument concerns whether spectators will show up, but I think quality players bring fans out. Right now in South American qualifying, a lethargic first round Argentina has benefited from local support and a favorable officiating call. But, in South America my contention runs aground based on the fact that all 10 nations are always involved in the qualifying tournament so one inevitably hosts. I don't deny the idealism in my comment, but given the number of nations in CONCACAF it's achievable.
Side note: CONMEBOL is sending a major delegation to this week's CONCACAF meeting in Panama ... several heads of federation from South America will be there. I like the growing ties between both confederations. Good things could flow from this, but if we are not careful it will widen the gap between the capacity of Spanish-speaking Central America and the non-Spanish speaking Caribbean.
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Tough luck T&T hope the boys use this as motivation and determination to improve. That game could be a tremendous learning experience, playing in a hostile enviornment with everything at stake. These are the moments youths learn from and can help in building character. Didn't see the game but from the highlights it seemed like they left everything on the field and that was good to see and sometimes that's all you can ask for.
The developmental process is a marathon and not a sprint, with youth players in particular it's not always about winning and many of us sometimes get carried away with that. If their team preparation and cohesiveness continues, this team looks like they have the potential to well moving forward :beermug:
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I like the yuteman, however I think he moves around a bit to much. He anticipates well, but moves a bit to early. With more sophisticated play[ers] like the last goal it will be easy to finish. A bit more patience is needed.
The thing about goalkeepers is that experience makes a massive difference.
Good Luck.
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Thank you for the kind posts. I will leave you with this.
As far as the warning to critics, I will say this. This is not my first rodeo. I did not post as some emotional mother but as a former college player and coach who has a deep love for the game. I would expect comments like this to be posted for players like Beckham and Messi for three reasons. 1) They are men 2) They are professionals 3) They are paid a large sum of money in return and its their job.
If we don't allow young players to make mistakes and crucify them when they do they will never learn. We learn through our mistakes. As far as the goal haunting him forever. I assure you it will not. Johan will process the mistake, learn from it and move on. For ghosts will drag you to an early grave. Johan has played for the US National Team. He CHOSE to play for the T&T team. It was not a decision he took lightly. He knew he would be making a choice. He wore the jersey with pride and left his heart on the field. He loves his teammates and the coaching staff. It has been a great experience for Johan. As the Dynamo coaches said today, unlucky goal - looks like it took a bad bounce on the turf but a great performance. He is young and will only continue to improve. He works very hard and loves the game! They are a great group of young men and we look forward to the next opportunity. Never stop supporting the next generation of young players - for with positive coaching and fans - these boys will get there. It's only a matter of time. See you in 2 years......
michellewelch, with all due respect.
Your son was in my opinion man of the match for T&T and saved us about 6 goals.
But when you say Johan has played for the US National Team. He CHOSE to play for the T&T team. It was not a decision he took lightly.
What exactly do you mean?
Are you saying he told USA no and said yes to T&T ?
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I like the yuteman, however I think he moves around a bit to much. He anticipates well, but moves a bit to early. With more sophisticated play[ers] like the last goal it will be easy to finish. A bit more patience is needed.
The thing about goalkeepers is that experience makes a massive difference.
Good Luck.
??? ???
Elan......wdf you talkin' 'bout, man?
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I like the yuteman, however I think he moves around a bit to much. He anticipates well, but moves a bit to early. With more sophisticated play[ers] like the last goal it will be easy to finish. A bit more patience is needed.
The thing about goalkeepers is that experience makes a massive difference.
Good Luck.
??? ???
Elan......wdf you talkin' 'bout, man?
... elan's response (the one that's coming) might surprise you.
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I like the yuteman, however I think he moves around a bit to much. He anticipates well, but moves a bit to early. With more sophisticated play[ers] like the last goal it will be easy to finish. A bit more patience is needed.
The thing about goalkeepers is that experience makes a massive difference.
Good Luck.
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Elan......wdf you talkin' 'bout, man?
... elan's response (the one that's coming) might surprise you.
Quite honestly, Jed, I will only be surprised if what he says (on this particular topic/point/person) is something I can agree with. :D
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Well-played.
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I like the yuteman, however I think he moves around a bit to much. He anticipates well, but moves a bit to early. With more sophisticated play[ers] like the last goal it will be easy to finish. A bit more patience is needed.
The thing about goalkeepers is that experience makes a massive difference.
Good Luck.
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Elan......wdf you talkin' 'bout, man?
... elan's response (the one that's coming) might surprise you.
:cursing: You's a rel f**kin' set-up man oui! I hyere on de damned site, trolling whole night lookin' fuh de man, waitin' fuh a explanation....and de two ah allyuh laughin' like hyenas. Loud fackin' steuwps!
:D
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elan padnah ... Go On ......Get In There!!!!!!!! Chow waiting. :)
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Thank you for the kind posts. I will leave you with this.
As far as the warning to critics, I will say this. This is not my first rodeo. I did not post as some emotional mother but as a former college player and coach who has a deep love for the game. I would expect comments like this to be posted for players like Beckham and Messi for three reasons. 1) They are men 2) They are professionals 3) They are paid a large sum of money in return and its their job.
If we don't allow young players to make mistakes and crucify them when they do they will never learn. We learn through our mistakes. As far as the goal haunting him forever. I assure you it will not. Johan will process the mistake, learn from it and move on. For ghosts will drag you to an early grave. Johan has played for the US National Team. He CHOSE to play for the T&T team. It was not a decision he took lightly. He knew he would be making a choice. He wore the jersey with pride and left his heart on the field. He loves his teammates and the coaching staff. It has been a great experience for Johan. As the Dynamo coaches said today, unlucky goal - looks like it took a bad bounce on the turf but a great performance. He is young and will only continue to improve. He works very hard and loves the game! They are a great group of young men and we look forward to the next opportunity. Never stop supporting the next generation of young players - for with positive coaching and fans - these boys will get there. It's only a matter of time. See you in 2 years......
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I want to nominate this as one of the most sensible posts EVER - on this forum. Great read.
Young Johan future is indeed bright, as he clearly has a solid core of people around him - that put his best interests first. "Moms" your points are well articulated and spot on ...hats off. We should all look forward to and support Johan and all our (committed) youth players, once the don the red, black and white.
If you watch the game, Johan continued to do an excellent job after the mistake -- other players would have self destructed under the spotlight. On the play itself, he gambled a little..expecting a cross from that position and was just a half step too slow adjusting his feet to the shot. Happens. GK is a lonely position as your mistakes back there can have immediate effect.
What is more alarming to me, is the fact that our field players could not link 2 - 3 passes together!! What are we doing about that? ...these are NATIONAL team players, that cannot retain possession of the ball..which, in this "Barcelona" era -- looks bad and is hard on the eyes to say the least. Better team won on the night, as the Panamanian players were more composed in possession and we able to create space and time for themselves. TT were relying too much on "moments" of individual ability and less on collective/constructive team play.
But again, to keep things on perspective...these are young, amateur players that need our support - they must be saturated with information that will enhance their psychological, technical and tactical development .... which relys on being in a training environment that is conducive to learning.
When I read some of the interviews from the training/technical staff (including the senior staff) ... their points are poorly articulated and not consistent with what you should expect from a "teacher/instructor" .... so they must be evaluated as well.
Maybe in order to pry Johan away from the US setup .... we should offer Michelle a role with our technical staff? From the looks and sound of it --- would not be a bad package deal.
Cheers.
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Thank you for the kind posts. I will leave you with this.
As far as the warning to critics, I will say this. This is not my first rodeo. I did not post as some emotional mother but as a former college player and coach who has a deep love for the game. I would expect comments like this to be posted for players like Beckham and Messi for three reasons. 1) They are men 2) They are professionals 3) They are paid a large sum of money in return and its their job.
If we don't allow young players to make mistakes and crucify them when they do they will never learn. We learn through our mistakes. As far as the goal haunting him forever. I assure you it will not. Johan will process the mistake, learn from it and move on. For ghosts will drag you to an early grave. Johan has played for the US National Team. He CHOSE to play for the T&T team. It was not a decision he took lightly. He knew he would be making a choice. He wore the jersey with pride and left his heart on the field. He loves his teammates and the coaching staff. It has been a great experience for Johan. As the Dynamo coaches said today, unlucky goal - looks like it took a bad bounce on the turf but a great performance. He is young and will only continue to improve. He works very hard and loves the game! They are a great group of young men and we look forward to the next opportunity. Never stop supporting the next generation of young players - for with positive coaching and fans - these boys will get there. It's only a matter of time. See you in 2 years......
Message here?
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Thanks fuh de reggae Asylum seeker.
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Lifeisgood excellent post breds!
"What is more alarming to me, is the fact that our field players could not link 2 - 3 passes together!! What are we doing about that? ...these are NATIONAL team players, that cannot retain possession of the ball..which, in this "Barcelona" era -- looks bad and is hard on the eyes to say the least. Better team won on the night, as the Panamanian players were more composed in possession and we able to create space and time for themselves. TT were relying too much on "moments" of individual ability and less on collective/constructive team play."
I just highlighted that sentence cause somehow I feel what 'we' doing (or at least should be doing) is putting people in positions to get the youth them to be able to do that and more??
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Lifeisgood excellent post breds!
"What is more alarming to me, is the fact that our field players could not link 2 - 3 passes together!! What are we doing about that? ...these are NATIONAL team players, that cannot retain possession of the ball..which, in this "Barcelona" era -- looks bad and is hard on the eyes to say the least. Better team won on the night, as the Panamanian players were more composed in possession and we able to create space and time for themselves. TT were relying too much on "moments" of individual ability and less on collective/constructive team play."
I just highlighted that sentence cause somehow I feel what 'we' doing (or at least should be doing) is putting people in positions to get the youth them to be able to do that and more??
We simply need to DEMAND it of our players - find those that can retain possession and develop a system around them. From U12 age, we should be identifying these types of players and incubating them, so that ball retention is in their DNA....imagine a squad with 3 Latapy's, 2 Anthony Sherwood's, a couple Nakhid's, a Yorke ... throw in a Jamerson for good measure --- and build around that.
Gone are the days where your central defenders only know 2 things (bruising and clearing) -- all 11 players on the field must be comfortable on the ball. PERIOD. As I tell players that I am fortunate enough to coach - in this rounds you have to be a goal scorer, a ball winner, or a maestro....anything else is average.
If playing a squad of players that can retain possession means converting some natural midfielders to defenders, then so be it ---- do it at a young age, where they should be learning ALL the positions and functions on the field. There should be no "specialists" until they reach 17, 18 ---every player should be EQUALLY capable in at least 2 positions.
That is my 2 cents ...
Bless.
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I like the yuteman, however I think he moves around a bit to much. He anticipates well, but moves a bit to early. With more sophisticated play[ers] like the last goal it will be easy to finish. A bit more patience is needed.
The thing about goalkeepers is that experience makes a massive difference.
Good Luck.
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Elan......wdf you talkin' 'bout, man?
Mango hard luck on de absence. Trying to make some things happen here.
WDF am I talking about?
Well the youth man is good let me start there. However, as I mentioned I noticed a habit that he has. He reads the game really well and gets into position early. For a field player this is brilliant, but for a GK this can be very detrimental. He seems to get caught up in the play (especially when the tempo is high and we are doing a lot of defending) and starts operating like a sweeper instead of a GK.
For me, a GK needs to possess great patience. They need to be able to read the game (which he can), but then they need to possess the discipline and concentration to not commit to the play to early. I like my goalkeepers to live by the mantra "last to leave, first to arrive". I know he is young and this is not a "negative" rant about the young man, it's just something I noticed. Playing against a keeper like that I will advised my mids or forwards to shoot off the dribble. Because he is moving so much it will be difficult for him to adjust quickly.
Now his movements maybe a direct result of the defense in front of him as they most likely have not fully developed a proper relationship due to a lack of preparation.
A bit basic, let me know if you understand WDF I'm talking about.
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No scene, elan, self and family always first....better late than never.
Now...I am not quite sure that I agree with you, but that is if I were even quite sure if I totally understood what you were talking about. I only had the benefit of seeing him play that one game (in its entirety) against Panama and as far as I saw, in that game, aside from the 1 obvious blunder that we have all already analyzed and (probably) over-analyzed, I don't see that he did or was doing much that needed adjusting. The one and only thing I noticed was that, for corner and free-kicks for Panama, he didn't seem quite vocal with his teammates....I hardly (if at all) saw him belting out instructions to his defenders....but, I also said there could be any of a number of reasons for that. As far as his "movement" as you describe it...I really don't see what it is you're talking about. Not in that Panama game and not on the goal that you initially mentioned. GK's are taught to keep themselves relatively positioned to where the ball is in the field of play and that means that the more the ball moves back and forth and/or side to side, the more the GK is going to havta move, too....but I don't think that is what you were talking about either. I know you say it's basic, but if you could give me any examples, I would appreciate it. I thought his sense of anticipation was quite exceptional, especially on them one-on-one situations he had. Again, I only watched one entire game....you may have seen them all and may really have much better insight....
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So have we discarded him???
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so is he still interested ?
So have we discarded him???
Good question on both accounts. Anybody with an idea on what happened with him?
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Anybody with an idea on what happened with him?
Attends the University of North Carolina (http://www.goheels.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3350&ATCLID=210262491).
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Anybody with an idea on what happened with him?
Attends the University of North Carolina (http://www.goheels.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3350&ATCLID=210262491).
... which says a lot.
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Anybody with an idea on what happened with him?
Attends the University of North Carolina (http://www.goheels.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3350&ATCLID=210262491).
... which says a lot.
Not following you ???
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Anybody with an idea on what happened with him?
Attends the University of North Carolina (http://www.goheels.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3350&ATCLID=210262491).
... which says a lot.
Not following you ???
A program with credibility in the eyes of the US soccer establishment. He would not be there out of charity.
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Got it! Thanks! :beermug:
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Anybody with an idea on what happened with him?
Attends the University of North Carolina (http://www.goheels.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3350&ATCLID=210262491).
... which says a lot.
Not following you ???
A program with credibility in the eyes of the US soccer establishment. He would not be there out of charity.
not getting any match fitness doh..not good.. and their #1 is only a Jnr next season