Post by: Flex on August 31, 2013, 06:26:59 AM
By Ian Prescott (Express).
TEN MEMBERS of Trinidad and Tobago’s 2009 FIFA Under-20 World Cup squad, all under age twenty-three (23), have been included in the 21-man squad which new Trinidad and Tobago national team head coach Stephen Hart has selected for the OSN Four National Cup, which takes place from September 5-10 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
Hart has also recalled Lestier “Corn Curls” Peltier, Ataullah Guerra and Willis Plaza to international action, along with the England-based trio of Stoke City striker Kenwyne Jones, Andre Boucard (Notts County) and Justin Hoyte (Middlesborough).
The Soca Warriors leave for the tournament on Sunday and will arrive in Saudi Arabia a day before kicking off the tournament against the United Arab Emirates.
New Zealand will play hosts Saudi Arabia in the other match on opening day. On the second day, the winners will meet in the final, while the two losers battle for third spot.
Caledonia AIA’s Glenroy Samuel, Trinidad and Tobago’s goalkeeper at both the 2007 FIFA Under-17 and 2009 FIFA Under-20 World Cups, get his first tour with the senior team.
Also included are his youth World Cup teammates Robert Primus (FC Aktobe), Daneil Cyrus (W Connection), Mekeil Williams (W Connection), Aubrey David (Caledonia AIA), Kevin Molino (Orlando City), Khaleem Hyland (Racing Genk), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force), Marcus Joseph (Point Fortin Civic Centre) and Sheldon Bateau (KV Melchien).
Hart did not include former Under-20 World Cup captain Leston Paul, but said he liked some of what he saw from the Guaya United midfielder and will be keeping an eye on him in the future.
“It’s a time for experimentation. We have to be realistic. We finished the Gold Cup and we have an idea of a nucleus, but we have to build for the future,” Hart said, while announcing his team yesterday at the VIP lounge of the Hasely Crawford Stadium. “I felt it was extremely important that I look at players I did not get to see at the Gold Cup. I think it was important to see them play international games.”
Hart chose some of the players based on scouting, some on information obtained from performances on the internet, and also recommendations from his technical staff.
The San Fernando-born former Canada national coach also confessed difficulty in getting players released, despite the tournament being played on an official FIFA match date. There was a hint he might not have gotten everyone he wanted for the series.
“Clubs are never happy about releasing players for international dates and in some countries the leagues don’t stop even when its is a FIFA international date,” he said.
Trinidad & Tobago Squad
Goalkeepers
Jan-Michael Williams (Central FC), Marvin Phillips (Point Fortin Civic Centre), Glenroy Samuel (Caledonia AIA).
Defenders
Sheldon Bateau (KV Mechelen), Justin Hoyte (Middlesbrough), Daneil Cyrus (W Connection), Robert Primus (FC Aktobe), Mekeil Williams (W Connection), Aubrey David (Caledonia AIA), Radanfah Abu Bakr (FC Vosto), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force).
Midfielders
Kevan George (Columbus Crew), Andre Boucaud (Notts County), Lester Peltier (Slovan Bratislava), Kevin Molino (Orlando City), Densill Theobald (Caledonia AIA), Ataullah Guerra (Rovaniemen Palloseura), Khaleem Hyland (Racing Genk), Marcus Joseph (Point Fortin Civic Centre).
Forwards
Kenwyne Jones (Stoke City), Willis Plaza (Song Lam Nghe).
Post by: trini_stallion on August 31, 2013, 06:47:59 AM
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Post by: Sam on August 31, 2013, 07:41:10 AM
I hope this is phase out time for Theobald. We need him for now to help groom some of the younger players. He have good attitude for this.
Glenroy Samuel is a mistake waiting to happen. I hope he proves me wrong, but he not good at all.
Other than that.
Good team.
Still would like to see Cato, Hector, Gavin Hoyte and Winchester in de mix though.
Post by: chelsealife on August 31, 2013, 08:04:19 AM
Mekeil Williams is a decent player but makes really poor decisions with the ball. His passing is sub zero but his work rate is good.Rundell :D, Sam? or Shahdon ?
I hope this is phase out time for Theobald. We need him for now to help groom some of the younger players. He have good attitude for this.
Glenroy Samuel is a mistake waiting to happen. I hope he proves me wrong, but he not good at all.
Other than that.
Good team.
Still would like to see Cato, Hector, Gavin Hoyte and Winchester in de mix though.
Post by: noize on August 31, 2013, 08:56:42 AM
Post by: Tallman on August 31, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
I see no Keon too, which based on his performance in GC I can understand.
Keon was called up, but was unavailable. He also injured his ankle last week in a match against New England Revolution, and is a doubt for today's game against Montreal Impact.
Post by: Jack Horner on August 31, 2013, 09:21:31 AM
These coaches need to stop pampering players and pick the best available.
Theobald is 31 and cannot provide any help for the team in the next set of WC games why not utilized his spot with someone who can really help.
Theobald had his time, he proved he was not up to the game in the GC and stars in friendlies maybe that is the reason they picking him.
While he was at Joe Public I know him pretty well, he does have a good attitude.
Leston Paul should have been here. We are dying for a number 10 and these games are important so we cannot waste them.
I can tell you that the players in T&T lack hunger though, so we really not sure what sort of attitude they carry. Maybe that is the reason some was overlooked.
Interesting to see only Connection and Caledonia players getting picked from the Pro teams in T&T. There run in the CCL is terrible thus far. Maybe Hart need some glasses.
I know Jan Williams from Central is there, but he is an exception because he is fresh of the GC and only now signed for Central.
Post by: Controversial on August 31, 2013, 09:31:09 AM
Hart took over where Shabazz left off.
These coaches need to stop pampering players and pick the best available.
Theobald is 31 and cannot provide any help for the team in the next set of WC games why not utilized his spot with someone who can really help.
Theobald had his time, he proved he was not up to the game in the GC and stars in friendlies maybe that is the reason they picking him.
While he was at Joe Public I know him pretty well, he does have a good attitude.
Leston Paul should have been here. We are dying for a number 10 and these games are important so we cannot waste them.
I can tell you that the players in T&T lack hunger though, so we really not sure what sort of attitude they carry. Maybe that is the reason some was overlooked.
Interesting to see only Connection and Caledonia players getting picked from the Pro teams in T&T. There run in the CCL is terrible thus far. Maybe Hart need some glasses.
I know Jan Williams from Central is there, but he is an exception because he is fresh of the GC and only now signed for Central.
I was very harsh on Bleeder in the last few years, always been a supporter of him as a player, however he fell off a bit, however, Harty knows what hes doing, he needs an experienced veteran player in the middle and on the team, Bleeder is that player, having conversed with him on many occasions he has a great knowledge for the game, more so than many other players I have spoken to, by far.
That being said I understand his pick fully and knowing SH I know why he has him there...
Post by: Controversial on August 31, 2013, 09:34:16 AM
Why do these coaches still have this S#!t Hound Theobald on this team...this man have 9 lives on the National Team, I really don't get it. I see no Keon too, which based on his performance in GC I can understand. Theobald should be left off any future teams , I would have like to see Hector instead.
two different players, hector is an attacking creative mid that can play the wing, bleeder is more of a defensive mid, holding mid. He has the experience and we need that going into a tournament like this. Some senior experience is needed to groom these youths, Bleeder is an intelligent player, he has a good football IQ... That's why he is there, he will provide sound advice to the youth players. If you have never spoken to the man you wouldn't know what I'm talking about.
Post by: Tallman on August 31, 2013, 09:36:14 AM
I would have like to see Hector instead.
Hector was called up, but unavailable.
Post by: Controversial on August 31, 2013, 09:39:00 AM
Mekeil Williams is a decent player but makes really poor decisions with the ball. His passing is sub zero but his work rate is good.
I hope this is phase out time for Theobald. We need him for now to help groom some of the younger players. He have good attitude for this.
Glenroy Samuel is a mistake waiting to happen. I hope he proves me wrong, but he not good at all.
Other than that.
Good team.
Still would like to see Cato, Hector, Gavin Hoyte and Winchester in de mix though.
some players have the potential and need a chance to give them the confidence to become a better player and eventually surpass people's expectations. it happens all the time, I am not a fan of J jones the defender, but he has a lot of supporters on here that say hes good, i beg to differ, maybe with more experience he will become a better defender, more confidence and so on..
Harty experiments and this is the time to do it, hes setting himself up to qualify this team for 2018, god willing, he needs to see the players to do this
confidence makes a big difference
Post by: dreamer on August 31, 2013, 09:45:52 AM
Post by: Controversial on August 31, 2013, 09:49:27 AM
Thanks Tallman for dishing out facts to put a damper on this reckless player bashing. Glad to know that Hector was called. Sometimes fans want to know that "their boy" was not overlooked in some spiteful way. The coach seems to have his head on and seems to see through a clear lens, so far.
Harty ain't spiteful bro, hes fair, fairer than shabazz and corneal and those men, by far, if you are good you will get called, without a doubt, Harty wants whats best for the team, hes not into losing and making himself look bad, especially T&T...
there are reasons why certain players are not there, valid ones and it's not Hart or his attitude
Post by: Controversial on August 31, 2013, 09:51:42 AM
Wayyyy sah.....that is it right there...that's the 2018 squad...beautiful beautiful! !! All yuh see that defense...that midfield...hopefully men cld gel quick....hart...keep doing ya thing!!!!
this is a good team, full of youth and talent, good for our future, Harty is making statement, he is building and is not afraid to experiment and groom the talented youths for 2018, we need a strong core, this is how you weed out the players who not up to par and form a team that can take us through
Post by: D.H.W on August 31, 2013, 09:55:37 AM
Post by: Controversial on August 31, 2013, 10:02:57 AM
Hopefully some good clubs see our players and give them a chance.
maybe, maybe not, its a good tournament but not a high profile one, I may be wrong... right now the players need to focus on winning for the national team, not being selfish and thinking of only getting scouted... that's a part of it but it shouldn't be their main focus. They need to win first for T&T, then study that, a winning team goes further than a losing one with selfish players...
Post by: Peong on August 31, 2013, 11:22:11 AM
I would have like to see Hector instead.
Hector was called up, but unavailable.
Unavailable because he lookin for a club?
Post by: Banter Banton on August 31, 2013, 12:17:19 PM
Why do these coaches still have this S#!t Hound Theobald on this team...this man have 9 lives on the National Team, I really don't get it. I see no Keon too, which based on his performance in GC I can understand. Theobald should be left off any future teams , I would have like to see Hector instead.
I posted this in the next thread... it was in response to Coache, but you can add yourself to the jackass list.. cool ?
you know you are a reallllll jackass... I pray hoping you are not really a coach because I feel so bad especially if it is kids you coaching..
We have no WCQ's until 2015.. Densil's role now is to guide the younger players and show them the attitude necessary to be a unit
You could hate the man playing style all you want, but you can NEVER f**king doubt the man's first class attitude... he not holding back a single player by being there... the role he is playing right now over the next year or so with the team is PRICELESS
The experience alone, seeing it all growing up in one of our best quality squads in 2004-2006 and then taking it on his shoulders in the darkest age of T&T football from 2007-2012 where he lead the team out and dug deep and never packed it in or asked questions.. just put his head down, gathered the troops and bled for the flag
That player, poor quality or not is pure GOLD to have around a squad of younger players.... you cannot discard people like that... have some respect and some common sense
he might not play, and probably should not play ahead of the midfielders but having him around the squad is your trump card right there
Hopefully this post opened some people eyes to understanding the ROLE of Theobald from here on with the T&T team
UNDERSTAND the importance of my points and note I never said he have to play.. just understand the role
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Post by: royal on August 31, 2013, 12:26:51 PM
I would have like to see Hector instead.
Hector was called up, but unavailable.
so Tallman tell we who are the players that were called up and unavailable nah ? Hart mentioned it in his press conference and the reporters ain't even ask him who are the players.
Post by: Tallman on August 31, 2013, 12:29:39 PM
I would have like to see Hector instead.
Hector was called up, but unavailable.
so Tallman tell we who are the players that were called up and unavailable nah ? Hart mentioned it in his press conference and the reporters ain't even ask him who are the players.
Keon Daniel
Hughtun Hector
Joevin Jones
Carlyle Mitchell
Seon Power
Post by: dreamer on August 31, 2013, 12:40:44 PM
Post by: Controversial on August 31, 2013, 12:46:10 PM
Excellent!!! He couldn't have called a better team of individuals. Like Hart does be reading these threads orwha?
;) Harty is the man... he has integrity and vision, something that lacked in the previous coaches, not to mention he was a superior knowledge of the game and isn't afraid or too proud to learn from coaches that have achieved more to improve his standards
Post by: Banter Banton on August 31, 2013, 01:02:18 PM
Goalkeepers
Jan-Michael Williams (Central FC), Marvin Phillips (Point Fortin Civic Centre), Glenroy Samuel (Caledonia AIA).
Defenders
Sheldon Bateau (KV Mechelen), Justin Hoyte (Middlesbrough), Daneil Cyrus (W Connection), Robert Primus (FC Aktobe), Mekeil Williams (W Connection), Aubrey David (Caledonia AIA), Radanfah Abu Bakr (FC Vosto), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force).
Midfielders
Kevan George (Columbus Crew), Andre Boucaud (Notts County), Lester Peltier (Slovan Bratislava), Kevin Molino (Orlando City), Densill Theobald (Caledonia AIA), Ataullah Guerra (Rovaniemen Palloseura), Khaleem Hyland (Racing Genk), Marcus Joseph (Point Fortin Civic Centre).
Forwards
Kenwyne Jones (Stoke City), Willis Plaza (Song Lam Nghe).
Would like to see :
4-2-3-1
----------------------------------JAN----------------------
--Hoyte-------------Cyrus---------------Primus----------------David
---------------------Hyland------------Boucaud
------------Peltier---------------Guerra---------------Molino
-------------------------------Kenwyne
Post by: Controversial on August 31, 2013, 01:29:12 PM
Trinidad & Tobago Squad
Goalkeepers
Jan-Michael Williams (Central FC), Marvin Phillips (Point Fortin Civic Centre), Glenroy Samuel (Caledonia AIA).
Defenders
Sheldon Bateau (KV Mechelen), Justin Hoyte (Middlesbrough), Daneil Cyrus (W Connection), Robert Primus (FC Aktobe), Mekeil Williams (W Connection), Aubrey David (Caledonia AIA), Radanfah Abu Bakr (FC Vosto), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force).
Midfielders
Kevan George (Columbus Crew), Andre Boucaud (Notts County), Lester Peltier (Slovan Bratislava), Kevin Molino (Orlando City), Densill Theobald (Caledonia AIA), Ataullah Guerra (Rovaniemen Palloseura), Khaleem Hyland (Racing Genk), Marcus Joseph (Point Fortin Civic Centre).
Forwards
Kenwyne Jones (Stoke City), Willis Plaza (Song Lam Nghe).
Would like to see :
4-2-3-1
----------------------------------JAN----------------------
--Hoyte-------------Cyrus---------------Primus----------------David
---------------------Hyland------------Boucaud
------------Peltier---------------Guerra---------------Molino
-------------------------------Kenwyne
i am unfamiliar with david, is he a natural left footer?
JanCyrusPrimusBateauHoytePeltierHylandGuerraBoucardMolinoJonesI think this is the best team that could possibly play imo
i wish the line up button could do this instead though
Jones
Guerra
Peltier Boucard Molino
Hyland (Holding Mid)
Cyrus Hoyte
Primus Bateau
Williams
Post by: Jay10 on August 31, 2013, 04:44:47 PM
Post by: Banter Banton on August 31, 2013, 04:45:28 PM
Still a kid, and got some game time in the Gold Cup which will serve him well...definitely one to keep around the team with the hope he improves and develops into a solid option
Post by: noize on August 31, 2013, 06:26:07 PM
Why do these coaches still have this S#!t Hound Theobald on this team...this man have 9 lives on the National Team, I really don't get it. I see no Keon too, which based on his performance in GC I can understand. Theobald should be left off any future teams , I would have like to see Hector instead.
I posted this in the next thread... it was in response to Coache, but you can add yourself to the jackass list.. cool ?
you know you are a reallllll jackass... I pray hoping you are not really a coach because I feel so bad especially if it is kids you coaching..
We have no WCQ's until 2015.. Densil's role now is to guide the younger players and show them the attitude necessary to be a unit
You could hate the man playing style all you want, but you can NEVER f**king doubt the man's first class attitude... he not holding back a single player by being there... the role he is playing right now over the next year or so with the team is PRICELESS
The experience alone, seeing it all growing up in one of our best quality squads in 2004-2006 and then taking it on his shoulders in the darkest age of T&T football from 2007-2012 where he lead the team out and dug deep and never packed it in or asked questions.. just put his head down, gathered the troops and bled for the flag
That player, poor quality or not is pure GOLD to have around a squad of younger players.... you cannot discard people like that... have some respect and some common sense
he might not play, and probably should not play ahead of the midfielders but having him around the squad is your trump card right there
Hopefully this post opened some people eyes to understanding the ROLE of Theobald from here on with the T&T team
UNDERSTAND the importance of my points and note I never said he have to play.. just understand the role
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It's amazing to me how you get your panties all in ah bunch, like Bleeder is your family ? But I'm a jack a$$ because I point out the truth. You can take it personal you want, I will let his record speak for itself. He is not and will never be a leader, nobody looking up to him , nobody. He is a waste of space and should not be on National Team ever. Call any of the teams he has been on and ask them why he back in Trini...actually just call Latas and ask him why it didnt work out for him, even with his recommendation. Plain and simple he is not good enough now or ever, so take that in yuh pipe and smoke it
Post by: Banter Banton on August 31, 2013, 06:53:39 PM
Why do these coaches still have this S#!t Hound Theobald on this team...this man have 9 lives on the National Team, I really don't get it. I see no Keon too, which based on his performance in GC I can understand. Theobald should be left off any future teams , I would have like to see Hector instead.
I posted this in the next thread... it was in response to Coache, but you can add yourself to the jackass list.. cool ?
you know you are a reallllll jackass... I pray hoping you are not really a coach because I feel so bad especially if it is kids you coaching..
We have no WCQ's until 2015.. Densil's role now is to guide the younger players and show them the attitude necessary to be a unit
You could hate the man playing style all you want, but you can NEVER f**king doubt the man's first class attitude... he not holding back a single player by being there... the role he is playing right now over the next year or so with the team is PRICELESS
The experience alone, seeing it all growing up in one of our best quality squads in 2004-2006 and then taking it on his shoulders in the darkest age of T&T football from 2007-2012 where he lead the team out and dug deep and never packed it in or asked questions.. just put his head down, gathered the troops and bled for the flag
That player, poor quality or not is pure GOLD to have around a squad of younger players.... you cannot discard people like that... have some respect and some common sense
he might not play, and probably should not play ahead of the midfielders but having him around the squad is your trump card right there
Hopefully this post opened some people eyes to understanding the ROLE of Theobald from here on with the T&T team
UNDERSTAND the importance of my points and note I never said he have to play.. just understand the role
Modify message
It's amazing to me how you get your panties all in ah bunch, like Bleeder is your family ? But I'm a jack a$$ because I point out the truth. You can take it personal you want, I will let his record speak for itself. He is not and will never be a leader, nobody looking up to him , nobody. He is a waste of space and should not be on National Team ever. Call any of the teams he has been on and ask them why he back in Trini...actually just call Latas and ask him why it didnt work out for him, even with his recommendation. Plain and simple he is not good enough now or ever, so take that in yuh pipe and smoke it
He is not and will never be a leader, nobody looking up to him , nobody.
If one line could ever confirm someone as a c**t and a half, that was it
Good Job Jackass
Post by: Controversial on August 31, 2013, 09:09:43 PM
Would play Bateau at left back and shift Cyrus to central defence
that could work well, bc Cyrus has the height, my only qualm with that is that Cyrus has a great ability to run on the flank and create, i feel over the years we lacked that in our wingbacks.... he left a great impression on me after the gold cup, he has potential to be a world class defender
Post by: Controversial on August 31, 2013, 09:14:44 PM
He plays Left Back for Club and Country... he is primarily right footed but has the ability to use both feet...Tidy full back, does not get forward enough for me ...has to work on that
Still a kid, and got some game time in the Gold Cup which will serve him well...definitely one to keep around the team with the hope he improves and develops into a solid option
thanks for the info :beermug: traditionally full backs would camp out and be a part of set pieces, but our modern wingbacks tend to overlap more and are naturally attacking, thats what i love about cyrus, he is a great find for tt.. what would you say is causing him to not push forward, confidence or he is not as strong in the dribbling/ball control dept?
Post by: Jay10 on August 31, 2013, 10:25:00 PM
Cyrus has primarily played at CB and although he may be prone to some gaffes, I think it is his best position. he is one of the quickest defenders on the team and is good in the air
Post by: Football supporter on August 31, 2013, 11:19:57 PM
Remember, Hart hasn't had a chance to see any other Pro League teams play in anger yet.
Post by: Sando on September 01, 2013, 05:54:16 AM
Daniel and Power is not needed.
Glen will be miss but we need to build and he needs to focus on his new job in India.
Joevin will also be miss, but I am assuming he is injured or on trial? W Connection don't hesitate when it comes to sending players out.
The rest, we can do without them, they do not add much.
At this point in time, Theobald is needed to help make the transition easier for the younger ones.
Good job SH.
Post by: royal on September 01, 2013, 05:59:10 AM
I would have like to see Hector instead.
Hector was called up, but unavailable.
so Tallman tell we who are the players that were called up and unavailable nah ? Hart mentioned it in his press conference and the reporters ain't even ask him who are the players.
Keon Daniel
Hughtun Hector
Joevin Jones
Carlyle Mitchell
Seon Power
thanks brother, always keeping us informed
Post by: royal on September 01, 2013, 06:54:14 AM
Post by: AB.Trini on September 01, 2013, 07:45:03 AM
Cordell Cato
Julius James
Carlyle Mitchell
Yohance Marshall
**** no one convince Nick Deleon Otis he still hoping for a call from USA?
Post by: Controversial on September 01, 2013, 07:47:32 AM
Cyrus was a striker, and I have seen him play anywhere in the back 4. saw Bateau against Peru at Lb and he was good. Of course he probably did not get forward as much but he was solid.
Cyrus has primarily played at CB and although he may be prone to some gaffes, I think it is his best position. he is one of the quickest defenders on the team and is good in the air
:beermug:
havent seen bateau in a while, his pace in comparison to Cyrus is something i can't comment on, but i could see that working, you're thinking of something like this:
JanBateauPrimusCyrusHoytePost by: Controversial on September 01, 2013, 07:53:08 AM
doubt Molino going now, his team in USL finals next Saturday 7th Sept.
if that is the case, we would have to promote plaza and play him in a role like what glen had in the gold cup, is he capable of playing the withdrawn striker position behind jones? we need a striker to play a Bergkamp type role to play in the hole to compliment jones, then we will have to push guerra back in the center mid and plaza forward with boucard as a winger.
Jones
Plaza
Peltier Guerra Boucard
Hyland (Holding Mid)
Post by: dreamer on September 01, 2013, 11:26:03 AM
Jan
Bateau Primus
Hoyte Cyrus
Theobald
Hyland
Peltier Guerra
Molino
Jones
Hart, Hutson, Derek & Beenie,
Take note. Make the defense air-tight and free up the attack to ramajay. ;D
Post by: Big Magician on September 01, 2013, 06:55:54 PM
had 2 at the GC...Jones and Skilla daniel....just thinking of set plays
also...noticed Akeem Adams playing full mins for his Hungarian club...maybe too soon for a re call....but should be back in the mix soon
Post by: royal on September 01, 2013, 07:29:42 PM
hmmm...not one left footed player on the squad
had 2 at the GC...Jones and Skilla daniel....just thinking of set plays
also...noticed Akeem Adams playing full mins for his Hungarian club...maybe too soon for a re call....but should be back in the mix soon
Tallman say dey get turn down with Daniel and Jones
Post by: Tallman on September 01, 2013, 07:42:38 PM
also...noticed Akeem Adams playing full mins for his Hungarian club...maybe too soon for a re call....but should be back in the mix soon
Akeem need to get a good run of games under his belt. He kinda fell off de radar since de days of Maturana.
Any word on the omission of :
Cordell Cato
Julius James
Carlyle Mitchell
Yohance Marshall
**** no one convince Nick Deleon Otis he still hoping for a call from USA?
I think Cato will get his chance soon enough once he continues to get minutes at San Jose.
Julius is a weird case. His track record suggested that he would have been our mainstay/primary defender by now, but for one reason or another it has not happened.
Yohance playing in Myanmar and I eh tink he replacing anybody on dat squad, but we obviously need to keep tabs on him.
Post by: Rodney on September 02, 2013, 04:58:03 AM
IMHO Theobald is best suited to a holding MF role in the Team, but Hyland does that better. He dosen't offer much creativity and seems quite ineffective when trying 'to make things happen'. Boucaud, Daniel & Hyland are all better so I just don't see him as a starter unless we want three midfielders in the centre of the park.
I can see a squad place for him as now that Birchall gone and Abu Bakr seems to be recognised exclusively as a defender he is probably the only proven cover for Hyland. It will be interesting to see what Hart does.
Post by: Controversial on September 02, 2013, 12:10:09 PM
I feel Cyrus who is versatile in defense must be used properly to address the traditional or recent socawarrior weakness. Its been quite a while since we have had two wingbacks of high pedigree plugging the hole in our defense. L wing back is always a problem. Because of our historical defense problems we have been trying to compensate with the formations and excessively dragging back midfielders with offensive and shooting skills like Hyland and even preventing beautifully attacking players like Latapy from playing getting playing time. This just serves to blunt our attack and we lose penetration in these 4-5-1 and other formations that isolate our strikers and reduce options for attack. Whoever our opposition's best Zalaya-type speedster down the wing is, should get Cyrus put on him. If he's coming down the right wing, put Cyrus on the L back. Leave Bateau and Primus at mid and put Hoyte on the other wing back, probably right back. Gonzales as back up. The rest as below and let's get back to attacking football with the bogey of an old porous defense off our mind.
Jan
Bateau Primus
Hoyte Cyrus
Theobald
Hyland
Peltier Guerra
Molino
Jones
Hart, Hutson, Derek & Beenie,
Take note. Make the defense air-tight and free up the attack to ramajay. ;D
quick question dreamer, what is your thought process behind switching peltier to right wing and guerra to the left wing?
Post by: dreamer on September 02, 2013, 10:18:02 PM
1. I feel we need to get past the predictable strategy of pass-the-ball-to-Jones, that our opposition is more than prepared for . Must get true speedsters down the wings, spreading the opposition’s defense and keeping them preoccupied with other threats.
2. Peltier is very very fast and will attract up to two double-teaming defenders pulling attention away from Jones. He could be possibly used on left or right but he seems to have shown his pedigree on the right wing as a breakaway striker for Trinidad clubs and Slovakian teams.
3. Hector's job is to handle the L wing. In his absence, no sweat: Many folks might not fully be aware of Guerra’s speed. Very fast indeed and good at teasing opposition with fancy footwork right up to the sidelines. I watched him good at the Caribbean Cup where he starred to get us to the Gold Cup. He is known to be classified as a midfielder but he loves to surge in attack and has a fleckin’ rocket of a shot. One could have said use Molino instead of Guerra on the side but Guerra is a physically tougher & rough neck & is better suited for the hatchet-man defender strategy that the opposition will try to release on the wings. Guerra will cause plenty trouble with trickery and there will be tons of free-kicks just outside the box and penalties too as a result.
4. Additionally, Molino can be used as an attacking midfielder, almost striker, withdrawn behind Jones and will certainly cause havoc supplying Jones, Peltier, Guerra and taking shots himself free to ramajay more in the center as the defenders get distracted wide by Guerra and Peltier.
5. Also, Boucaud (as a possible sub for Theobald) and Hyland would be surging forward every now and then to crack some rockets from lay-offs and from rebounds. Note too that central defender Bateau would be unable to resist joining attacks for headers and to deliver some of his known bullets.
All in all, T&T’s team is looking promising in talent and balance with a refreshingly deep midfield in the post-Yorke and post-Latapy era (even without the exciting Hector and Jones) and with new found strength in defense. With the defense no longer hopelessly porous, we are now able to free up our midfielders to use more attacking formations instead of wasting too much time compensating for holes in defense, especially in the wings.
Post by: davidephraim on September 04, 2013, 03:11:15 AM
Thanks Tallman for dishing out facts to put a damper on this reckless player bashing. Glad to know that Hector was called. Sometimes fans want to know that "their boy" was not overlooked in some spiteful way. The coach seems to have his head on and seems to see through a clear lens, so far.
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