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New mayor stays at TTFA.
By Clint Chan Tack (Newsday).
NEWLY elected Port-of-Spain Mayor Raymond Tim Kee yesterday said he will not be resigning as Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president as a result of the new political post that he now holds.
Speaking with Newsday after the swearing-in ceremony of new councillors and aldermen of the Port-of-Spain City Corporation at Port-of-Spain City Hall last night, Tim Kee said: “You better believe it.”
Asked if this could create a conflict of interest, Tim Kee said his situation was far different from that of Jack Warner when he was a Cabinet minister, FIFA vice-president and Concacaf president. “Jack Warner was the senior vice-president of 210 countries. He was an employee of FIFA. He was an employee of Concacaf,” he stated.
Tim Kee said: “I am a non-income earning president. My work is voluntary. The only person in the Federation who is paid a salary is the CEO, the General Secretary Mr Sheldon Phillip and the staff.” He noted Douglas Camacho was able to serve as Guardian Life Insurance president and TT Olympic Committee president.
In his inaugural address, Tim Kee said he preferred not to give himself such a lofty title as mayor. “I prefer servant. I prefer facilitator,” said Tim Kee to an audience which included Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley and PNM MPs Marlene McDonald, Donna Cox and Patricia McIntosh.
Tim Kee pledged the corporation will exhibit qualities that “place country above self, nation above profit and a commitment to service beyond acquisition of wealth.”
“Today as a people, we are seeing the perils of greed and have rejected it,” he said. Assuring outgoing mayor Louis Lee Sing that the projects started under him would continue, Tim Kee said Port-of-Spain would become “a true capital city not only in Trinidad, but in the Caribbean.”
Tim Kee urged residents to show a strong commitment to a lawful society and “a need to do right” regardless of whether law enforcement is there or not.
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:thinking:
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flying everywhere with d team is Voluntary too... ;D
By d way...how Sheldon Phillips get dat wuck....??
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Jack Warner junior in the making.
Who voted for Tim Kee or did he run for Mayor solo?
Whether he is good or bad, this is a dictator in the making.
All presidents and people in charge should only be allowed 2 terms.
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Jack Warner junior in the making.
Who voted for Tim Kee or did he run for Mayor solo?
Whether he is good or bad, this is a dictator in the making.
All presidents and people in charge should only be allowed 2 terms.
:rotfl: :rotfl: these are the changes we wanted,i don't see any difference between this admin and the past one,we didn't get change we just exchange,you all feel is a mistake they make with how much money the Footballer should get,TTFF is alive and kicking.
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Mayor is an appointed post in Trinidad. PNM won the POS corporation in the elections.
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Mayor is an appointed post in Trinidad. PNM won the POS corporation in the elections.
I thought proportional representation changed that. All Councilors and Aldermen were elected.
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Jack Warner junior in the making.
Who voted for Tim Kee or did he run for Mayor solo?
Whether he is good or bad, this is a dictator in the making.
All presidents and people in charge should only be allowed 2 terms.
:rotfl: :rotfl: these are the changes we wanted,i don't see any difference between this adim and the past one,we didn't get change we just exchange,you all feel is a mistake they make with how much money the Footballer should get,TTFF is alive and kicking.
TimKee only inherit what your godfather left behind. Massive Debt on a scale unimaginable. It come like Bush and Obama.
What is the fuss, a Mayor is a shakehand ting & open building ribbon ceremony. Is not like he has in hand in the kitty like Minister of Works, security.
It have nobody right now who could save football in TT, unless Sabga or Gov't wipe away the owing funds.
Youth teams & staff going with nothing.
National staff eh getting paid.
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:thinking:
yep, that is a big hmmmm...
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New mayor stays at TTFA.
By Clint Chan Tack (Newsday).
Asked if this could create a conflict of interest, Tim Kee said his situation was far different from that of Jack Warner when he was a Cabinet minister, FIFA vice-president and Concacaf president.
What a foolish question.
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Mayor is an appointed post in Trinidad. PNM won the POS corporation in the elections.
I thought proportional representation changed that. All Councilors and Aldermen were elected.
No, Alderman are not elected now and they never were before.
Previously, if you won the local corporation, you got to appoint 100% of the aldermen even if it was 51% to 49%.
Now with proportional representation, for every 25% vote you get you are entitled to appoint an alderman. So even if you lose 75% to 25% you still have a say.
However now you have to put up a list, or slate if you may, of potential aldermen appointees before the election.
PNM win everything in POS so they get to name every alderman and the mayor
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Jack Warner junior in the making.
Who voted for Tim Kee or did he run for Mayor solo?
Whether he is good or bad, this is a dictator in the making.
All presidents and people in charge should only be allowed 2 terms.
:rotfl: :rotfl: these are the changes we wanted,i don't see any difference between this adim and the past one,we didn't get change we just exchange,you all feel is a mistake they make with how much money the Footballer should get,TTFF is alive and kicking.
TimKee only inherit what your godfather left behind. Massive Debt on a scale unimaginable. It come like Bush and Obama.
What is the fuss, a Mayor is a shakehand ting & open building ribbon ceremony. Is not like he has in hand in the kitty like Minister of Works, security.
It have nobody right now who could save football in TT, unless Sabga or Gov't wipe away the owing funds.
Youth teams & staff going with nothing.
National staff eh getting paid.
What u wanted him to inherit? he knew all the problems it have because he was a part of the admin at one time, nobody ask him to jump in there,it's a decision he made because he figured he could make a difference or change things,everybody know right now it have nobody who could save Football in T&T,i am grateful to him for trying but we have to give him a chance,he said he don't get paid it's a voluntary job he does don't forget JW started off voluntary too.
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TTFA needs a full-time President to sort out this mess - he simply has to drop the ball on one of them given the time demands of both... At least you'd think?
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TTFA needs a full-time President to sort out this mess - he simply has to drop the ball on one of them given the time demands of both... At least you'd think?
You are correct,this job calls for a president who is full time,i can't understand this voluntary and don't get paid thing,it's a lot of work to be voluntering,don't forget he is still an insurance executive.
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Sheldon Phillips will probably be taking up most of the TTFA duties and act as TTFA president behind de scenes I am sure, which is ok because he is a decent fella (for now, until de corruption get to him).
What does get me vex though is how they does just get position without merit and votes.
Everybody knows somebody in T&T and everybody getting paid.
T&T does not have a democratic system at all, they have a God father system.
Anybody know how much wok Tim Kee have now.
He is de CEO of Raymond Tim Kee Investments & Insurance Services Limited/Guardian Life of the Caribbean Limited since 2002.
de TTFA president.
de Mayor of Port of Spain.
He is de Executive Agent at Raymond Tim Kee Agency.
He is on de Concacaf Associated Championships Committee as well as the Fifa Futsal Committee.
This man really good. He better than Michael Bloomberg, he doing 4 tops jobs and !!!!!! as a volunteer.
This man should be give a Chaconia medal.
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Sam,don't worry about how much jobs he has,how much he voluntering for etc etc the important thing is he has done more for Football in the short time he has been there than JW did in twenty something years. :banginghead:
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I agree that is lot of voluntary work. I don't understand the parallel with Camacho in guardian life and Olympic association . Mayor is a public position and part of governance structure . Camacho was in a private institution. We will have to wait and hear from Rowley since he was against Jack holding public office and holding an international position. Mayor is a full time work. A president of a national association should not openly political. He s a PNM Mayor! It sounds to be like he is threatening Rowley!I am sure there is more to come if not from Rowley from Moonilal!
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I could only shake my head at some of the shit I does be reading on this site yes. Why would anybody want anything to do with anything resembling public office in Trinidad when all that awaiting them is ah set ah mauvais langue people tearing them down? Jack drain the TTFF dry and leave the organization with a set ah debt, the TTFA can't even afford to pay Shabazz and Charles, but allyuh wondering why Tim Kee volunteering and how much job he have. Big f**king steups!
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Know when to switch hats, Mr. Mayor
T&T Express
Newly appointed TTFA president and Port of Spain Mayor Raymond Tim Kee needs to understand from the first whistle of kick off, the difference in his two portfolios, and not to have one usurp his responsibilities of the other.
He needs to know when to speak and act as the TTFA president, and likewise when he has to be a politician, being recently appointed as mayor by the PNM.
He has received his first red card as TTFA president, via his haste to impress those who gave the authorisation to appoint him as mayor, by stating that the comments made by myself about national footballers having their mobile phones intercepted by the then PNM government, was “ridiculous, completely unfounded and foolish”.
I never knew that Mayor Tim Kee was employed in the SIA during the PNM’s term in government, because that can be the only way he can be so bold to state categorically that the statement about national footballers being intercepted was ridiculous.
However, that not being the case, it clearly shows he is unable to know when to wear his TTFA hat, and that of someone who is singing for his supper after receiving a political appointment.
The contrast in professionalism in this matter was glaring, when Mr Brent Sancho, in response to these claims, immediately put the focus where it belonged, which is at the concerns of the footballers, by stating that he was disappointed “if it was true”, but he needed to get the full scope before he says anything further.
Even MP Donna Cox simply asked for proof of this allegation, and that is an appropriate response to this matter.
However, Mayor Tim Kee seems unable to know when to switch hats of responsibility, and in this matter he has unfortunately totally sidelined the care and concern of the footballers, which should have been his first and only statement as TTFA president, by stating if anything, that he needs to get all of the facts first before making a statement, but instead he saw it fit to be political rather than looking after the welfare of the individuals under his purview.
Mayor Tim Kee needs to be guided that he should be more professional when making statements wearing his hat as TTFA president and not to politicise his post, as it would not augur well for the development of the sport.
I send this not as a politician, but as an avid supporter of sport and the players, as I know when to switch my hats.
Mayor Tim Kee should be guided to do the same.
Gary Griffith
via e-mail
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Sam,don't worry about how much jobs he has,how much he voluntering for etc etc the important thing is he has done more for Football in the short time he has been there than JW did in twenty something years. :banginghead:
Didn't Jack start out good too? Those who seek so many jobs that give influence are often setting something up better for themselves along the line...
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Wow!!! Like Coop's BEGINNIN' to see the light.
According to Coop's "he has done more for Football in the short time he has been there than JW did in twenty something years"
Am I hearing right?
Signs that he's beginning to distance himself from his hero, with a hint of acknowledging how useless Jackulito was.
There is hope oui. People do change ..... but let me not talk too quick as brainwashin' & indoctrination :banginghead: (especially with the aid of brown envelopes) is a helluva ting to reverse
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do some homework before yuh talk nah. Almost evey football President is volunteer, even Barcelona President. :frustrated:
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do some homework before yuh talk nah. Almost evey football President is volunteer, even Barcelona President. :frustrated:
President of a Football Club sure. No Football Association Chairman in Europe would have a 2nd job (President in UK is a figure head, with our Chairman being equivalent to TTFA's President)
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President of a Football Club sure. No Football Association Chairman in Europe would have a 2nd job (President in UK is a figure head, with our Chairman being equivalent to TTFA's President)
So with the TTFA being broke... yuh want him to leave his regular job and survive on what? The peanuts you plan on paying him?
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do some homework before yuh talk nah. Almost evey football President is volunteer, even Barcelona President. :frustrated:
I'm pretty sure that most European presidents will receive something, although I concede, it may not be a living wage. But they will get full VIP treatment...private boxes, first class travel overseas etc. The Chairman will usually be the owner and will probably pay himself a decent wage from the club.
As president of TTFA, Tim-Kee would automatically receive VIP travel arrangements. Whether or not he receives a stipend would depend on the executive. I don't recall hearing of Camps receiving a salary, but that doesn't mean that he didn't.
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rob ford does coach high school football on de side. ah tink tim kee could do it.
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TTFA president is no fulltime job. He not cutting the grass on the football fields around Trinidad 9 to 5. He not answering the phones about Intl games 9-5. Wait nah...the phones actually ringing ? yuh lie ..
What full time job.. Ppl don't know, but they quick to talk and put down.. if The NEW TTFF did come in and start off with a windball cricket game..from the time they mention ok, let's go to work....some esteem ppl would say "Well, here we go again, dem come back talkin football again. " an.. "he wha we pay for he to go Intl football meeting and he cyah kick ah lime, bet he taking trip to do we mayor POS work..tiefing we football trips to do we city promotion trips...then he doing the other way round...chhheeupps " ::) :frustrated:
hell with tha talk..i will now just ??? & :laugh:
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Maybe a full time prez would have been able to settle the last game accounts sooner and seen the 6 for a 9 deal with native spirits.......
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Wow!!! Like Coop's BEGINNIN' to see the light.
According to Coop's "he has done more for Football in the short time he has been there than JW did in twenty something years"
Am I hearing right?
Signs that he's beginning to distance himself from his hero, with a hint of acknowledging how useless Jackulito was.
There is hope oui. People do change ..... but let me not talk too quick as brainwashin' & indoctrination :banginghead: (especially with the aid of brown envelopes) is a helluva ting to reverse
I knew you would like that line,it's for those like u that's what you like to hear,Coop's eh change read my posts.
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do some homework before yuh talk nah. Almost evey football President is volunteer, even Barcelona President. :frustrated:
President of a Football Club sure. No Football Association Chairman in Europe would have a 2nd job (President in UK is a figure head, with our Chairman being equivalent to TTFA's President)
If you know how much wuk Sunil Gulati have.
The presidents of the Spanish and Belgian FA's is also practicing lawyers and both holding all kinda posts with FIFA and UEFA.
Get real guys
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I have no problem with Tim Kee holding multiple positions/jobs once he is capable of handleing all of them,my main concerns are the problems everybody had with JW,this thing was debated in parliament for weeks,now it's no problem.
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This discussion starting to remind me of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpu5_3qk4KM) ... particularly at 1:14 and 2:20.
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I have no problem with Tim Kee holding multiple positions/jobs once he is capable of handleing all of them,my main concerns are the problems everybody had with JW,this thing was debated in parliament for weeks,now it's no problem.
Not saying it's nearly the same, but there was a big difference between a Russia run by Stalin and that whiich Putin is in charge. Yet although Russia still has a lot of problems and issues today, like everywhere else, bet they don't want another Stalin.
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rob ford does coach high school football on de side. ah tink tim kee could do it.
Let's hope it ends better.
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I have no problem with Tim Kee holding multiple positions/jobs once he is capable of handleing all of them,my main concerns are the problems everybody had with JW,this thing was debated in parliament for weeks,now it's no problem.
Coop's stop playing de ass... the two are not even remotely the same. Jack was a Government minister and a Fifa Ex-Co member at the same time. The issues people had were regarding the Fifa mandate of "no government involvement in football" and the fact that as an Ex-Co member he had international duties that would pull him away from his Cabinet job. At the time I said there were no conflicts where the "no government involvement" thing was and there wasn't. The other concerns were legitimate... especially since there were issues being raised on this site and internationally regarding financial impropriety by Jack. The concerns were proved legitimate.
Now you want to compare this to Tim Kee being Mayor?? Get real. Mayoral responsibility is nowhere close to that of a Cabinet Minister, and same that TTFA responsibilities cannot compare to FIFA Executive Committee responsibilities. The two are nowhere even comparable.
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If your FA President is just 'picking up the phones' then the problems in the TTFA are worse than expected. They need to be a full-time negotiator, sponsor, advertiser and organiser. They need to be critical in sponsorship deals that keep teh sport going, coordinating with the national team and the leagues, putting Trinidadian players in the shop window, and most important organising the damn finances. Seriously I think you grossly underestimate what the head of a Football Association is supposed to do - otherwise what's the point of them?
They need to be well connected, well organised, and a proven leader. To sort out these finances they'd better be a miracle worker too!
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If your FA President is just 'picking up the phones' then the problems in the TTFA are worse than expected. They need to be a full-time negotiator, sponsor, advertiser and organiser. They need to be critical in sponsorship deals that keep teh sport going, coordinating with the national team and the leagues, putting Trinidadian players in the shop window, and most important organising the damn finances. Seriously I think you grossly underestimate what the head of a Football Association is supposed to do - otherwise what's the point of them?
They need to be well connected, well organised, and a proven leader. To sort out these finances they'd better be a miracle worker too!
Have you ever heard of Sheldon Phillips? If you think Sunil Gulati putting US players in shop window and organising finances then you in for a real shock. I think you grossly overestimating what an FA president does.
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You mean the guy who spends half his life flying areas trying to sell brand America, who brings his considerable networth, with a proven background in Business who has transformed the fortune of the US team, and who's spearheading the drive to get the World Cup to America?
Yea definitely a nothing job :p
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Sunil is not compensated by the USSF. He gets paid by FIFA though and that's only because he's on the executive committee
He's a full time lecturer at Columbia
Not a fan of government officials being involved. Mayor of POS is big work. but let's see.
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Bakes u are correct,Camps was an Insurance executive too i forget that.
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You mean the guy who spends half his life flying areas trying to sell brand America, who brings his considerable networth, with a proven background in Business who has transformed the fortune of the US team, and who's spearheading the drive to get the World Cup to America?
Yea definitely a nothing job :p
You have proof that he "spends half his life flying areas trying to sell brand America"... because every Wednesday and Thursday he could be found at Columbia University where he teaches Econ. That's not even counting his FIFA Ex-Co responsibilities, yuh know... de same ones that Jack was doing (whose position he took) that was going to conflict with he Cabinet duties? When exactly he finding time to fly all over the world selling "brand America"?
I see yuh glossed over the mention of Sheldon Phillips, so let mih help yuh:
Phillips has managerial expertise in the administrative field. tHis appointment is regarded as a major step towards restoring faith in the federation. He also had a successful spell in sports management in the United States and other parts of the globe.
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US Soccer President and recently elected FIFA Vice President Sunil Gulati holds Phillips in high regards having worked with him dating back to 1992
“I have known Sheldon for over 20 years when we first worked together on US Cup ‘92. He is resourceful and results driven. As the General Secretary, the TTFF will certainly benefit from his experience in the game,” Gulati said.
Phillips also holds a law degree from Samford University in Birmingham, Alabama and leveraged his legal training to acquire administrative experience working within charitable organizations, professional sports player associations, and minor league franchises.
Source (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/Sheldon-Phillips-is-new-TTFF-secretary-206873541.html)
As I said... Tim Kee don't need to be as hands on with the TTFA as allyuh trying to make it seem.
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Coop's from what I understand Tim Kee still has his day job as an insurance executive, but I think he works for himself(?)
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Yes Bakes. Tim-Kee owns and runs his own agency. The post Sam make mentioning two insurance positions is actually one and the same.
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Yes Bakes. Tim-Kee owns and runs his own agency. The post Sam make mentioning two insurance positions is actually one and the same.
:beermug:
I will PM yuh fuh de address to find him when ah ready fuh mih Brazil WC tix... not sure ah could get past Corporation Council security ;D
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You mean the guy who spends half his life flying areas trying to sell brand America, who brings his considerable networth, with a proven background in Business who has transformed the fortune of the US team, and who's spearheading the drive to get the World Cup to America?
Yea definitely a nothing job :p
You have proof that he "spends half his life flying areas trying to sell brand America"... because every Wednesday and Thursday he could be found at Columbia University where he teaches Econ. That's not even counting his FIFA Ex-Co responsibilities, yuh know... de same ones that Jack was doing (whose position he took) that was going to conflict with he Cabinet duties? When exactly he finding time to fly all over the world selling "brand America"?
I see yuh glossed over the mention of Sheldon Phillips, so let mih help yuh:
Phillips has managerial expertise in the administrative field. tHis appointment is regarded as a major step towards restoring faith in the federation. He also had a successful spell in sports management in the United States and other parts of the globe.
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US Soccer President and recently elected FIFA Vice President Sunil Gulati holds Phillips in high regards having worked with him dating back to 1992
“I have known Sheldon for over 20 years when we first worked together on US Cup ‘92. He is resourceful and results driven. As the General Secretary, the TTFF will certainly benefit from his experience in the game,” Gulati said.
Phillips also holds a law degree from Samford University in Birmingham, Alabama and leveraged his legal training to acquire administrative experience working within charitable organizations, professional sports player associations, and minor league franchises.
Source (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/Sheldon-Phillips-is-new-TTFF-secretary-206873541.html)
As I said... Tim Kee don't need to be as hands on with the TTFA as allyuh trying to make it seem.
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Coop's from what I understand Tim Kee still has his day job as an insurance executive, but I think he works for himself(?)
I'm actually a lecturer, after the first year it doesn't take that much preparation to do 2 classes :p But yea I see your point I'm getting myself twisted over the positions.
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Sunil is not compensated by the USSF. He gets paid by FIFA though and that's only because he's on the executive committee
He's a full time lecturer at Columbia
Not a fan of government officials being involved. Mayor of POS is big work. but let's see.
Sunil did work in the World Bank while he was serving the USSF. I think he was Pres. at that time. I did talk to him briefly about football in general and the MLS. At that time he was real focus was on the MLS. Although I see similarities, I think it is vastly different with Jack. As far I have known, All TTFF presidents have had regular jobs. Eric James was a top railway official. I think he used to run it in the 60s.Ken Galt was a Neal & Massey director or somehing. John Alleyne worked with Sando borough council(Southies correct me). I think Dom Basil was TFA man at one point. I think Vernon Bain from the East did do a term. He worked in UWI. I think a lecturer. I agree TTFF Pres. is a full time job. But at was price. What salary would you pay the TTFF president. What is the salary of the Pres. of the TTCricket Council. What about Rugby, TF, Netball, Basetball.
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Sunil is not compensated by the USSF. He gets paid by FIFA though and that's only because he's on the executive committee
He's a full time lecturer at Columbia
Not a fan of government officials being involved. Mayor of POS is big work. but let's see.
Sunil did work in the World Bank while he was serving the USSF. I think he was Pres. at that time. I did talk to him briefly about football in general and the MLS. At that time he was real focus was on the MLS. Although I see similarities, I think it is vastly different with Jack. As far I have known, All TTFF presidents have had regular jobs. Eric James was a top railway official. I think he used to run it in the 60s.Ken Galt was a Neal & Massey director or somehing. John Alleyne worked with Sando borough council(Southies correct me). I think Dom Basil was TFA man at one point. I think Vernon Bain from the East did do a term. He worked in UWI. I think a lecturer. I agree TTFF Pres. is a full time job. But at was price. What salary would you pay the TTFF president. What is the salary of the Pres. of the TTCricket Council. What about Rugby, TF, Netball, Basetball.
Deeks this is simple,what was Oliver Camps salary,was he getting any because he was there umteen years,i wonder if he volunteered all that time (he deserves a medal).
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Scamps, your cut-from-the-same-cloth pally wally deserves a medal? Nice man. Well please ... arrange a nice ceremony, go ahead and buy him a medal (gold if yuh please) and tell us about all in the cabal who attended and genuflected and how much scotch and coconut water allyuh lash together sardonically grinnin' about the megamillions siphoned off into unknown bank accounts. That is one of the sickest utterances you have made here and I shake my head in disbelief at the boldfaceness. Yuh right ... you eh change ..... at all.
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The main man for the US 84 WC, Alan Rothenber(whatever his name), was never on salary for the USSF. But he got a 10 million dollar compensation at the end of the tournament. Whichever way you squeeze the balloon, it will get obzokee!
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Sunil is not compensated by the USSF. He gets paid by FIFA though and that's only because he's on the executive committee
He's a full time lecturer at Columbia
Not a fan of government officials being involved. Mayor of POS is big work. but let's see.
Sunil did work in the World Bank while he was serving the USSF. I think he was Pres. at that time. I did talk to him briefly about football in general and the MLS. At that time he was real focus was on the MLS. Although I see similarities, I think it is vastly different with Jack. As far I have known, All TTFF presidents have had regular jobs. Eric James was a top railway official. I think he used to run it in the 60s.Ken Galt was a Neal & Massey director or somehing. John Alleyne worked with Sando borough council(Southies correct me). I think Dom Basil was TFA man at one point. I think Vernon Bain from the East did do a term. He worked in UWI. I think a lecturer. I agree TTFF Pres. is a full time job. But at was price. What salary would you pay the TTFF president. What is the salary of the Pres. of the TTCricket Council. What about Rugby, TF, Netball, Basetball.
Deeks this is simple,what was Oliver Camps salary,was he getting any because he was there umteen years,i wonder if he volunteered all that time (he deserves a medal).
Coops, we all know in Jack era how things worked. Camps maybe have been a "volunteer", but under table he was pulling a hefty renumeration. These men hiding money here, creating phantom compannies to move money all over the place. Volunteer mu backside. If these men volunteering, then I am sure they are heavily compensated for travelling, entertaining, etc, etc.
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Scamps, your cut-from-the-same-cloth pally wally deserves a medal? Nice man. Well please ... arrange a nice ceremony, go ahead and buy him a medal (gold if yuh please) and tell us about all in the cabal who attended and genuflected and how much scotch and coconut water allyuh lash together sardonically grinnin' about the megamillions siphoned off into unknown bank accounts. That is one of the sickest utterances you have made here and I shake my head in disbelief at the boldfaceness. Yuh right ... you eh change ..... at all.
I think yuh completely misread what it is Coop's saying.