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Title: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on November 25, 2013, 04:38:21 PM
JOEVIN JONES current season 2013/14 highlights to date (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71-coRqL1og&feature=em-upload_owner)

Joevin Jones highlights Toyota Classic semis 23-11-2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iKNgD_Ek5Q&feature=c4-overview&list=UUe_ZxQFbOh4tdbFchNpuI5w)

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Errol on November 26, 2013, 12:22:56 PM
WOW, what a talent, the man look like the full package.

The second link where he beat a few guys and scored were awesome.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on February 06, 2014, 07:20:29 PM
Joevin Jones - Goals Compilation (August 2012 - January 2014)

http://www.youtube.com/v/bJagTcrGjdc
Title: Joevin Jones - Player Profile Video
Post by: Tallman on May 22, 2014, 09:00:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/YklSsD8Kpfg
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on September 12, 2014, 02:28:57 PM
Joevin Jones’s first interview in Finland

https://www.youtube.com/v/nW-3qFRrKLs
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: frico on September 12, 2014, 04:53:01 PM
Dem fellas getting too much space to run.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Trini _2026 on September 12, 2014, 06:13:00 PM
Joevin Jones’s first interview in Finland

https://www.youtube.com/v/nW-3qFRrKLs

lol oh yes
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: andre samuel on September 12, 2014, 08:24:30 PM
Joevin Jones’s first interview in Finland

https://www.youtube.com/v/nW-3qFRrKLs

wtf???
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: FireBrand on September 12, 2014, 09:07:30 PM
Lawd…that was cringeworthy, like many of our other players' interviews. The TTFA/ProLeague/ProLeague teams need to make it mandatory for our players to take a public speaking course.

Anyway all the best Joevin!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tiresais on September 14, 2014, 12:48:30 AM
All the best to him - the speaking can come with time, but let his feet substitute on the pitch in the mean time :p
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: frico on September 14, 2014, 04:36:28 AM
And English is we fuss language.Schools should make it a must that students do some public speaking on topics chosen by the teacher,it's not the first time I've heard cringeworthy interviews by some of our players.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Football supporter on September 14, 2014, 06:28:21 AM
People with ESL are taught to speak correctly without accents, like the interviewer. Most British people would not be any easier to understand, especially Scots, Scousers and Geordies. The biggest concern is the content. Joevin comes across as boring and, perhaps, not too bright, which is not the case in reality. In fact I would choose Joevin to be interviewed in T&T! He was probably a little nervous and still overwhelmed by the changes. He should have been briefed before the interview.

When we were at North East Stars, Kaydion Gabriel was selected for the National U20's. We made him practice being interviewed as his accent was real thick. Everyone "interviewed him", from Errol MacFarlane, Leslie Fitzpatrick, Charlie Pollard. First thing we told him to say was "Good evening Trinidad and Tobago"  When he was interviewed, he actually said that. We all creased up laughing. Guess you had to be there to see the funny side, but I'll never forget that!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on September 29, 2014, 10:55:11 AM
WATCH Joevin Jones celebrate with his teammates as HJK secures the 2014 Veikkausliiga (Finnish Premier League) title.

https://www.youtube.com/v/pvqpFSbkdC4
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on September 29, 2014, 04:04:21 PM
Dam, thought the Pro League was bad, but 5 people in the stands and they just won the title?

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on September 29, 2014, 04:57:56 PM
Dam, thought the Pro League was bad, but 5 people in the stands and they just won the title?

Dat look like it was way after de game was finished. The actual attendance was 1,915 and it was an away game for HJK, so dem was probably showing de few fans dat made de trip. TPS also in last place, so people must be say dey eh bothering to come out. LOL.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tiresais on September 30, 2014, 02:09:18 PM
Haha 5 is all you need when you win the title - they'll make the noise of a thousand givne the right amount of alcohol ;)
Title: Joevin Jones released by HJK
Post by: Tallman on November 05, 2014, 08:43:01 PM
Joevin Jones released by HJK after two months: http://www.suomifutis.com/2014/11/hjk-ei-loytanyt-syyskuussa-tulleelle-vahvistukselle-tarvetta/
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: elan on November 05, 2014, 09:19:43 PM
Joevin Jones released by HJK after two months: http://www.suomifutis.com/2014/11/hjk-ei-loytanyt-syyskuussa-tulleelle-vahvistukselle-tarvetta/

So they like him and he have the tools (technique & physical), but they won't keep him. We have to make we players understand what it is to compete day in and day out for a spot on a team.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Sam on November 07, 2014, 04:04:56 PM
This is why he cant go no where in life, is only lime them on. When he realize it throw away he talent and he broke then he go bawl you lucky. These men have no sense, Kelvin Jones need to put some hard clout in de ass.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1466066_10205363719082261_5854729002727197897_n.jpg?oh=30886b080e4cf0d2f095c4d3c682690a&oe=54F657DC&__gda__=1423041509_e6cc198be3828194fc77b888f92e3cd4)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: chelsealife on November 07, 2014, 06:18:20 PM
This is why he cant go no where in live, is only lime them on.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1466066_10205363719082261_5854729002727197897_n.jpg?oh=30886b080e4cf0d2f095c4d3c682690a&oe=54F657DC&__gda__=1423041509_e6cc198be3828194fc77b888f92e3cd4)
Exactly, n remember the interview "one ah d biggest thing..." dis fella not intelligent from what i grasp. I've never seen enough to justify the hype anyway. Good luck to him if he does have the talent that everyone says he has. Hope he doesnt fade away

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on November 07, 2014, 10:28:41 PM
Man cyah enjoy he private time now?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: FF on March 06, 2015, 02:29:41 PM
Galaxy v. Fire, MLS #1, Preview
By Sean Spence, HotTimeInOldTown.com


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Joevin Jones has been one of the surprises of preseason, locking down a starting slot at left back. - USA TODAY Sports



The situation:

All over the country, there's pockets of hardcore MLS nerddom waking up today with an information hangover, blearily checking Twitter reflexively despite the end of the league's negotiation standoff last evening. Yes, MLS' 20th season will kick off on time, and this year, the Fire will be part of the opening-night festivities when they take the field against the Galaxy. Kickoff is slated for shortly after 9 p.m. CST, and the game will be broadcast on UniMas.

Of course, it's possible to feel the Men in Red are 'part of the festivities' the same way a roasted pig is 'part of a luau;' the Fire's selection as the homecoming opponent for both the reigning champs and San Jose's new palace says everything about their falling stature within the league. It's there that we begin this 2015 season, hopeful of recovery from last year's nadir, but increasingly bleak when being realistic about the club's prospects.

All of that will matter not a bit once the ball is blown into play, however. There's a new narrative waiting just a few wins down the road - that this group is the one that proves Yallop's not past it, that combines experience and room for growth in cunning balance. Winning on Friday evening against the defending champions on their field would go a long way to bringing the shape of that narrative into view.

If there's one conundrum Chicago need to figure out, it's how the infusion of attacking talent is going to combine to create goal-scoring chances. Shaun Maloney has looked sturdier than expected playing in the center of midfield, but from the run of play has offered little. Kennedy Igboananike has looked lively, but hasn't finished his chances, which admittedly haven't been thick on the ground. At least they've been healthy - David Accam arrived late after the African Cup of Nations, then pulled up lame with a groin problem after 60 minutes in a friendly.

It's not like the DPs will be going it alone. New left back Joevin Jones has been a revelation, combining fine defensive fundamentals with rapier offensive thrusts up the left wing. Harry Shipp has shown steady growth in his game. Quincy Amarikwa is the same rolling-thunder ball of effort he's always been. Just off-camera, there's a gently healing Mike Magee waiting to join the party.

The problem is that all this talent managed two goals from the run of play in 450 minutes of preseason. Not that goals in preseason games matter much, in and of themselves; but they signal that the attacking unit hasn't quite worked out how they go from 'we have the ball in the attacking zone' to 'someone with a bit of space is putting a shot on goal.' The combination of Maloney and Shipp has produced some nice touches and some lovely turns, and they've kept the ball in tighter spaces than we're used to seeing, but to no great effect in creating scoring chances. Which means that they're still searching for some patterns that work for them; once they find them, it all could unlock in spectacular fashion.

Defensively, the Fire have looked calm and competent throughout preseason. Jones' emergence has made Lovel Palmer's runs forward rarer but more effective; the Jamaican remains a reliable, responsible presence on the right. Captain Jeff Larentowicz is playing an aggressive ball-playing defender role, using his good passing range to some effect. Newcomers Adailton and Eric Gehrig have traded time at the other centerback slot, with the Brazilian's experience and anticipation slightly preferred to Gehrig's mobility and passion.

It's unlikely the Men in Red have faced anything like the mental challenge posed by Robbie Keane, Gyasi Zardes, and the rest of the LA attack, though. This is like showing up for your first day of class and having the professor hand you the final. Chicago's defense will either prove it's ready, or get an unsparing assessment of how far they have yet to go.

A final thought: Fatigue because of the CBA negotiations could be an issue for a couple of players. Shipp and LA's Dan Gargan flew back to LA in the early afternoon, while board members Larentowicz and Todd Dunivant stayed through the announcement. Neither of the Galaxy's representatives were expected to start, while both of the Fire's are. Word is the players essentially pulled an all-nighter on Tuesday to prepare a counter-offer; how will Big Red and Shipp bear up?

Expect a starting XI that looks something like this: Sean Johnson; Joevin Jones, Eric Gehrig, Jeff Larentowicz, Lovel Palmer; Shaun Maloney, Matt Watson, Michael Stephens; Harry Shipp, Kennedy Igboananike, Quincy Amarikwa.


The opposition:

CoachTony ably discussed both LA's likely shape and their starters. If there's a good time to play a Bruce Arena team, it's early in the season. Arena's squads are built on dynamic, flexible two-man 'teams' within the larger team, and several of these two-man groupings have been disrupted in the offseason. Landon Donovan's retirement breaks up the Rogers/Donovan pairing that dominated the LA left wing down the stretch, while the trade of Marcelo Sarvas sunders the two-man midfield whose cleverness and intuition played right through many MLS three-man groups. The Galaxy have lost both their most-reliable countering route and their assured dominance of possession.

What is worrying is the groupings that remain - glaringly, Robbie Keane and Gyasi Zardes. Keane's genius seems to radiate outward into his strike partners; our own MVP Magee learned an economical incisiveness at the Irishman's knee. Zardes is now in his third year in Keane's School of Purposeful and Cunning Movement, and it shows. The challenge to concentrate fiercely, moment by moment, for extended periods is not inconsiderable. Keane's gift is sensing that moment of half-thought and exploiting it. And he's fashioned in Zardes an ideal foil - mobile, leggy, whip-smart.

The Galaxy's defensive group is established - Rogers on the left, a swashbuckling wingback; Gonzalez and Leonardo (Meyers, Dunivant) in the middle, erasing everything in the air; and DeLaGarza on the right, a converted centerback and stay-at-home contrast to Rogers. The centerbacks can be bamboozled with quick combinations, but the difficulty is getting into a situation where a combination is possible. LA will work hard as a team to win the ball back, but they generally don't press very high as a group.

Potential flashpoints:

Bradford Jamieson vs Lovel Palmer: CoachTony wrote in his scouting report that Jamieson's emergence has allowed the Galaxy to stay in their familiar 4-4-2. This is the kid's big-league debut, though; how will he react? Can Palmer get on top of him and make the 18-year-old hesitant? Or will he create some chances early that leave the Fire defense stretched and unsettled throughout?

Jeff Larentowicz vs Robbie Keane AND fatigue: If Larentowicz starts, here's to hoping he gets into one of those concentration trances very tired people sometimes manage. Three days of endless negotiations followed by a cross-country flight is not ideal game-day prep, certainly. If he can play well against Keane under these conditions, it certainly bodes well for his future at centerback.
What I'll be watching for

How deep is Maloney playing? Is he getting touches in the attack? The Scot showed a willingness to pitch in as the third man in a three-man midfield throughout preseason, but has struggled getting touches in more dangerous positions on the pitch. If Maloney's coming deep to find the ball or win it back, is he able to work forward from there? Or do the Fire lose the ball too quickly for him to migrate forward, it's a problem.

Can Shipp impose his ideas? The kid from the north side will probably start from the left wing, meaning he'll be working in the space between DeLaGarza and Gonzalez in his typical movements. Can he cause them difficulty with the ball, force them to switch marks or turn and face the goal? If he can, everything opens up - Igboananike at the near post, Amarika at the far, Maloney running onto a ball from deeper.

Are the Fire calm in possession? For years, the Men in Red have looked nervous whenever a defender is forced to move the ball along under pressure. This group has seemingly improved, playing calmly from the back more often, but aimless long balls under duress still crop up. Can Chicago simply pass and move against Los Angeles' inconsistent press?
The bottom line

Betbrain.com has the probabilities as follows: Galaxy 59 percent to win, with a 24 percent chance of a draw and long odds for a Fire win - 17%. Sigh.

Prediction: That's what will make the Fire's 2-1 victory so satisfying.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Palmer on March 14, 2015, 04:35:59 PM
Joevin playing in midfield today vs Vancouver looking good so far keeper jus made a good save to deny him the opener
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on March 14, 2015, 06:09:17 PM
Chicago down 1-0. Costly mistake by rb Lovell Palmer. He headed the ball down in the area onto a Vancouver man who put it away. Funny thing is, he was playing real good. Real irony.  Jovin is having a good game. He was switched back to lb. He has to tighten up his marking. Lots of time he was getting caught from the thru pass between him and the other stopper. Only poor finishing by Vancouver that the score is only 1-0. It coul have been 3-0. But jovin looking good. He made a couple of impressive overlaps that led to naught. Chicago mids were not in control of this game. Vancouver countered constantly and should have been up by more. Anyway, good luck to Joevin in his future games.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: coache on March 14, 2015, 09:41:22 PM
One of our best weapons for this new attacking system we goin and implement this upcoming Gold Cup.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on April 04, 2015, 03:38:41 PM
WATCH Joevin Jones score the opening goal in Chicago Fire’s 3-2 win over Toronto FC.

https://www.youtube.com/v/kJWaPp3Wyr0
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on April 04, 2015, 08:48:08 PM
Joevin Jones talks about the Chicago Fire's 3-2 victory over Toronto FC

https://www.youtube.com/v/cbB8Mjz0swc
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on April 05, 2015, 07:07:34 AM
Nice goal Joevin. Stay focus!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: dreamer on April 05, 2015, 03:59:20 PM
He's trying and his body language is much much better.
 
Proud of you Joevin. You broke the ice with that goal in front of thousands screaming your new name JJ.
You are now about to show them more of why you're famous in T&T and the caribbean.
Doh be afraid of the mike.
Within the near future that mike will become your true friend and you will be at ease as more sports reporters will want more of you.
Keep your head on, be on time, be hungry on the field, stay far from shady people, represent yourself, family and country proudly.
We're watching .... very closely.
Congrats to Chicago Fire for securing the best talent from here.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on April 06, 2015, 02:40:56 PM
JOEVIN JONES named to the MLS Team of the Week (Wk 5).
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2421214-mls-team-of-the-week-vancouver-trio-headline-leagues-best-from-week-5/page/6
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: FF on April 06, 2015, 03:35:45 PM
Plenty praise for Jones this week

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/04/05/armchair-analyst-midfield-struggles-tissue-issue-more-week-5

5. I'm starting to come around on the Chicago Fire, and you should, too. I wrote a bit about their 3-2 win over Toronto FC on Saturday, and have generally heaped praise upon Harry Shipp and Matt Polster over the last couple of weeks.

I'd be remiss not to include Joevin Jones in that list of young, promising building blocks in the Windy City. He's been excellent at both left midfield and left back, on both sides of the ball.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on April 06, 2015, 03:47:08 PM
VOTE NOW for Joevin Jones’ goal as MLS Goal of the Week: Week 5
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/04/06/vote-now-2015-att-mls-goal-week-week-5
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on April 12, 2015, 09:00:01 PM
Chicago Fire boosted by contributions of versatile newcomer Joevin Jones: "He has shown his quality"
By Shane Murray (MLSsoccer.com)


After making an immediate impact early in his debut MLS campaign, Chicago Fire head coach Frank Yallop believes offseason acquisition Joevin Jones "has the talent to really go places."

Of the 13 new additions to the Fire roster this season, Jones' arrival certainly went under the radar amongst the Fire fanbase.

However, a string of impressive performances – at both left back and left midfield – has immediately established the Trinidad & Tobago international as a fixture in Yallop’s team and a firm favorite with teammates and fans alike.

“I think from day one he has shown his quality,” Yallop told MLSsoccer.com after practice at a rain-soaked Toyota Park Thursday. “And it’s not just in matches he’s very good, in training too he’s very clean on the ball, engaged in everything we’re trying to do defensively and offensively, and he’s very easily coached. I’m very happy for him, he’s a good kid and he has the talent to really go places.”

Where that talent takes the versatile 23-year-old remains to be seen, but for now the Fire players are relishing the opportunity to work alongside a man playing so well, and so quickly.

“He’s so creative,” attacker Harry Shipp enthused. “He’s a defender but he’s got a much more attacking brain than most defenders do in this league. He can pick out a pass, he can beat a guy off the dribble and get a cross in. So I think his versatility is going to be pretty big for us.”

That attacking threat has been instrumental in the Fire’s recent resurgence after opening with three defeats, and the danger he presents to opposing defenses is illustrated by the fact he is the Fire’s second-most fouled player (eight) after perennial target Quincy Amarikwa (22).

“He’s played two different spots and done really well at both,” captain Jeff Larentowicz added. “I don’t think it’s easy to go from an attacker to a defender from game to game and he’s done it pretty well. When he’s attacked, he’s set up a goal in San Jose and scored against Toronto, and when he’s defended he’s done really well, so he’s been very good for us.”

The former W Connection (Trinidad & Tobago) and HJK Helsinki (Finland) player has been enjoying life in MLS and Chicago, and admits to being impressed by the standard he has seen in the opening five rounds.

“I think things are going great so far, I’ve had a tremendous start to my season and I want to keep that going,” Jones, whose first MLS goal against Toronto on Saturday was an AT&T Goal of the Week nominee, told MLSsoccer.com. “As a defender, when you assist and you score it’s a big plus to you and it motivates you a lot.”

Jones deputized with aplomb on the left wing for the injured David Accam, a fellow newcomer, in the opening few games, but the Ghanaian’s return to fitness has energized the squad and been a pivotal factor in the Fire’s back-to-back wins against the Philadelphia Union and Toronto FC.

“I think Joevin is a fantastic player. He has technique, pace and he knows what he wants to do on the pitch,” Accam said of his new teammate. “For me on the left wing, it’s also good so we can both help each other develop and also help the club to win games.”

And while Jones’ immediate focus is on continuing the Fire’s upward revival, he also has one eye on this summer’s Gold Cup, in which he sees Trinidad & Tobago mounting a stronger challenge after falling at the quarterfinal stage in 2013 following a 1-0 defeat by Mexico.

“I think we have a better squad this time around and I think we can reach through to the semifinals or the final this time around,” the 37-times capped Jones insisted.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on April 13, 2015, 12:58:27 PM
good report for us..well done Jones.. :applause:
Title: Jones finding his form in Chicago
Post by: Tallman on April 15, 2015, 01:45:02 PM
Jones finding his form in Chicago
By Jeff Krause (Chicago Fire Confidential)


When the Fire closed the book on their 2014 season supporters knew wholesale changes were in store for a team that struggled to a 6-10-18 finish. The departure of familiar names like Bakary Soumare, Gonzalo Segares, and Steven Kinney gave way to new players coming in, many of whom were unfamiliar to most Fire fans, including Trinidad and Tobago's Joevin Jones.

Jones, a 23-year old who went pro at the age of 19, and saw his first cap for his home country at age 20 , has shown his versatility early on for the Fire, spending time at both left back, as well as in the midfield. “I've been focusing on training hard, and I have certain goals I've set for this season,” Jones told Fire Confidential after training on Tuesday. “I've been settling in okay so far, I just want to keep playing hard, and working hard in training....I want to have a certain amount of assists and goals this season, and I want to be the Best Newcomer to the league this year.”

That's certainly a tall task, given newcomers to the league like David Villa, Kaka, and eventually Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard, but Jones' work towards those goals is paying dividends regardless. In his first five games, he has already registered on the stat sheet for the Fire, earning an assist on Harry Shipp's first goal of the season against San Jose, and scoring a goal worthy of a MLS Goal of the Week nomination in Chicago's 3-2 win against Toronto FC.

“I had trials at Toronto FC and Colorado (before), that did not go through...I've been trying to come to MLS for three or four years now. It's a pleasure for me to be here, finally. ”

Part of Jones' success can be attributed to what seems to be a smooth transition to MLS from Trinidad & Tobago's Pro League. While every foreign player seems to handle a move to MLS differently, Jones' success comes not only from his pedigree as a leader during his time at W Connection, but also as son to Kelvin Jones, who also played for Trinidad and Tobago's national team and was part of T&T's “Strike Squad,” a team that faced the USMNT in a November 1989 World Cup Qualifier that served to unite his home country.

“I think football is just in our blood. I always wanted to follow my father's footsteps and make my family proud, to reach on the big stage......I'm happy to be here in Chicago.”

Frank Yallop has already given Jones praise numerous times early on in the season, and sees him as an integral part of the Fire's push for success in 2015. “I like him,” Yallop told reporters last week when asked about Jones' play. “His teammates enjoy the way he plays and he slowly but surely is going more and more into the games for longer spells. I think JJ is settled in, and is starting to really pick up his game.”
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: trini_stallion on April 15, 2015, 01:53:03 PM
JJ...JJ is settled in...seems like it...good stuff...I like this fella ball playing as well...very talented!
Title: Exclusive Interview - Joevin Jones
Post by: Tallman on May 20, 2015, 04:26:11 PM
Exclusive Interview - Joevin Jones
frontrowsoccer.com


We recently had the chance to speak with Chicago Fire Rookie Joevin Jones. He is a Trinidadian professional footballer who plays as a midfielder for the Chicago Fire and also represents the Trinidad and Tobago national team primarily playing as a left-wing back.

With this being your first year with the Chicago Fire how do you expect to do with the team, and what hopes do you have for team itself throughout the season?
I expect to do well this season with Chicago Fire it’s my first year, as you can see I’m doing great so far. I expect us to make the playoffs this time around.

You scored your first goal with the team and in the MLS against Toronto earlier this year, can it describe how you felt during it?
Scoring my first goal against Toronto it had a lot of meaning time behind it. A couple of years ago I had a trials with Toronto, things didn’t work out so I had a point to prove to them. Also, my mom and girlfriend had called me like the day before the game and saying they want me to score a goal for them. It was also a point to make a name for myself in the MLS. It was one of my greatest moment in my football career, it was a wonderful feeling on that day by scoring my first goal at home and getting 3 points on that day.

What goals have you set for yourself in the future of your career and how much of that involves being in the MLS?
My goal this year is to do well in the MLS and after the season see where it takes me. All players have dreams to play in top leagues. I’m not God, I don’t know where I will end up at the end of the season, if I do stay in the MLS I wouldn’t be vexed with myself cause the MLS is a great league to play in.

You’ve also played over in Europe for HJK Helinski in Finland, can you describe the difference in style of play between there and the MLS, if there is any?
Finland league is more Europe style more passing game trying to break you down to score, and more technical. The style [Of the MLS] is not bad, teams try to pass the ball but not as much. It [Finland] is more running and aggressive, but it’s a difficult league to play in.

Playing for Trinidad and Tobago and playing in the Gold Cup this year, what goals have you and your teammates set for yourselves for the International Team?
I think we have a great bunch of players this time around to reach the knockout stage, we are really looking to the Gold Cup as also part of our preparation for our World Cup Qualifiers later this year.

If you play FIFA, do you ever play as yourself in game, and what does it feel like to know that you’re in a video game now?
I feel great knowing that I’m in the game but I never played.

We would like to thank Joevin for his time and Andrew of @OnlyMLS on Instagram for the interview.
Title: VOTE for Joevin Jones to be included in the 2015 AT&T MLS All-Star Fan XI
Post by: Tallman on May 28, 2015, 11:00:38 AM
VOTE for Joevin Jones to be included in the 2015 AT&T MLS All-Star Fan XI
http://www.mlssoccer.com/all-star/2015/vote
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on July 16, 2015, 02:21:00 AM
Joevin's fine Gold Cup run.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).


It's perhaps his best run in an international football so far. Some may argue that we still haven't seen the best of Joevin Jones but his performances in this country's two victories at the CONCACAF Gold Cup have been nothing but impressive with a high work rate.

Jones has been one of the more sort after players by the media at the tournament and seems to be enjoying the moments so far going back to Chicago, Phoenix and now Charlotte as the T&T team prepared for last night's encounter with Mexico.

"It's a great feeling but I'm just being me. I'm enjoying the Gold Cup. We are playing well and everyone is enjoying the run at the moment. I'm feeling really good right now but the job is not over. We still want to achieve more success here," Jones said on Tuesday.

Coach Stephen Hart believes the Chicago Fire and former W Connection player is beginning to come into his own.

"He's miserable off the field of play but he's a joy to have around. He's one of those players you need in your team, you need in the dressing room. And when he's on the field he expresses himself the way you want and he's enjoying it and making a valuable contribution to the team. That's what you want from players especially in a tournament when there's a lot happening in terms of preparation, travel and gamedays," Hart said.

The 23-year-old has played 43 matches for T&T and he wants to get closer to the 50-match mark at this Gold Cup.

"We have more games to go and I want to try and help us go all the way. I believe we have a great chance to move on and at least get to the semi finals. It's a lot of work ahead still but we can do it," Jones said.

Title: After successful Gold Cup, Joevin Jones hopes to carry momentum to Chicago Fire
Post by: Tallman on July 25, 2015, 08:14:55 AM
After successful Gold Cup, Joevin Jones hopes to carry momentum to Chicago Fire
By Shane Murray (MLSsoccer.com)


Fresh from inspiring his native Trinidad & Tobago to the brink of a Gold Cup semifinal, the Chicago Fire’s Joevin Jones is keen to keep his own momentum going and help turn around the Men in Red’s season.

The 23-year-old returned from a six-week absence to play a pivotal role in Wednesday’s exciting 3-1 US Open Cup quarterfinal victory over Orlando City SC, and he believes that win has changed the mood in the locker room ahead of Saturday’s key clash with Eastern Conference rivals New England Revolution (8:30 pm ET; MLS LIVE).

“From winning 3-1 on Wednesday it gave us more vibes,” Jones told MLSsoccer.com on Friday. “You could see the vibes in the locker room are different, and going into this game everyone has a more positive mind on Saturday and hopefully we come out with the win and move on.”

The versatile Jones has impressed at left back and left midfield since joining the Fire from W Connection in Trinidad & Tobago ahead of the season, and he continued that form into the Gold Cup, where the Soca Warriors were eliminated on penalties by Panama, 6-5, after a 1-1 draw in the quarterfinals last weekend.

“I think the Gold Cup was a learning experience for me; I gained a lot of experience playing against tough opposition like Mexico, Panama and Guatemala. It was a good experience for me,” Jones said. “I think I had a pretty OK tournament. I think I could have done better, but I did what I had to do.”

Jones excelled with his typical high-tempo, attack-minded play from left back, while he showed remarkable calm and focus to set up the game-tying goal from a last-minute corner kick in a thrilling 4-4 draw with Mexico that gave Trinidad & Tobago the top spot in Group C.

“When I was going to kick the corner there was a lot of pressure,” he said. “But once I blanked out the crowd and focused on getting the ball in the right area, I was able to do that, and it was great to gain a goal from it.”

Jones will be looking to build on his formidable partnership with Ghanaian winger David Accam, who is also returning to the mix after an injury, for the second half of the season. It’s a partnership that excites head coach Frank Yallop.

“He’s if not [the best] pretty close to being the best left back in the league,” Yallop said. “He had a good Gold Cup; he’s pleased to be back with us. I think he looked a little bit tired the other night, but he’s had a lot of travel, a lot of games, a lot of emotion that goes into a tournament, and I want to give him some time next week to gather his thoughts. But hopefully he can a very good game on the weekend, and I think with him and David together they’re pretty formidable down that side.”
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 25, 2015, 09:38:40 AM
Nice to get rated as close to the best left back in the league!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on August 06, 2015, 02:42:41 AM
Chicago coach says Joevin close to being MLS best left back.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).


Chicago Fire head coach Frank Yallop is backing Joevin Jones to becoming the best left back in American Major League Soccer (MLS). Yallop was speaking recently as he looked back at Jones’ performance at the Concacaf Gold Cup for this country.

Jones was an integral part of the team’s strong run which saw them reach the quarterfinals. He delivered the left side corner which led to Yohance Marshall’s brilliant last gasp equaliser in the 4-4 draw with Mexico.

“He’s if not [the best] pretty close to being the best left back in the league,” Yallop said.

“He had a good Gold Cup; he’s pleased to be back with us. I think he looked a little bit tired the other night, but he’s had a lot of travel, a lot of games, a lot of emotion that goes into a tournament, and I want to give him some time next week to gather his thoughts.

But hopefully he can a very good game on the weekend, and I think with him and David together they’re pretty formidable down that side.”

Jones said he was humbled by the experience of the Gold Cup.

“I think the Gold Cup was a learning experience for me but it was quite good because we were able to do well against teams like Mexico and Guatemala which we will face in the World Cup qualifiers. I intend to just keep learning and working hard. I want to keep improving and hopefully this will see me rising and doing well both for club and country,” Jones said.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 06, 2015, 05:25:03 AM
I am glad to hear that. But wait until the season done, nah.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on August 06, 2015, 09:16:12 AM
During the GC I didn't really observe his defensive game nah.  He fast so he can run down attackers.
Is a good thing for us that he can play left mid so well but I wonder which position he prefers.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 06, 2015, 10:21:17 AM
Funny, JJ was pilloried on this forum when he failed to make impressions on two previous overseas trials. Third time is a charm. Go JJ.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: palos on August 06, 2015, 01:24:46 PM
During the GC I didn't really observe his defensive game nah.  He fast so he can run down attackers.
Is a good thing for us that he can play left mid so well but I wonder which position he prefers.
He didn't play left wing back at the GC but his defensive work (recovery in particular) at the GC was not a strength.

I believe he prefers left midfield or even striker......but he'll play wherever to benefit the team
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: trini_stallion on August 06, 2015, 01:58:59 PM
Just read that Daniel Cyrus is at Chicago fire on loan now until December where he'll have the opportunity to sign a permanent deal....great stuff for the individual and the national team! Great news!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: trini_stallion on August 06, 2015, 01:59:31 PM
http://wconnectionfc.com/?p=2039
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on August 06, 2015, 02:12:25 PM
imagine if they had their best games..especially Cyrus..they can both be a real force, and good development too
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on August 06, 2015, 02:14:55 PM
Fantastic news!  Imagine them men coming up against Drogba, Pirlo, Villa, Kaka, Gerrard.
He better grab this opportunity with both feet.  ;D
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 12, 2015, 05:45:07 PM
WATCH LIVE: Joevin Jones and the Chicago Fire vs Philadelphia Union in the 2015 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Semifinal. Game is in progress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHIjclrn5u8
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2015, 07:35:45 PM
Philly won 1-0. Joevin was alright. His team struggled. Phily goes to the U.S. Open Cup final.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2015, 08:32:03 PM
Philly vs Kansas City in the final.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on September 10, 2015, 02:20:17 AM
Joevin: It was my range.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).


Chicago Fire Joevin Jones says he knew from the moment the free kick was awarded during the second half of the recent international friendly with Mexico that it was his for the taking.

The former W Connection man struck a left footer which flew into the right corner of the net to put T&T 3-2 ahead in another exhilarating contest with “El Tri” last Friday at the Rio Tinto Stadium in Salt Lake City. That was his second goal for T&T in 46 appearances.

“Once the referee blew for the foul and I saw where it was I knew that was my range. I’ve scored those before. The momentum was there. We were having a good game and it just felt perfect at the time,” Jones said.

“Evidently, the execution was perfect and it put T&T back into the lead before the Mexicans rallied to grab a late equaliser.

“It was disappointing not to hold on for the win but the good thing is we never cracked during the game. Even when they came back to level it we kept our heads and we kept playing which is the way these games are helping us. We have a bit of work to do still for the qualifiers but I’m feeling good at the moment about where the team is heading.”

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Fyzo10 on September 26, 2015, 11:53:48 AM
Is he injured or something? He hasn't been starting in the last few games for Chicago Fire.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on September 26, 2015, 12:39:32 PM
Is he injured or something? He hasn't been starting in the last few games for Chicago Fire.

No, he's been turning in some mediocre performances of late, plus de coach who brought him to Chicago just got fired.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: ribbit on September 26, 2015, 05:52:47 PM
Joevin came on second half for Chicago v Toronto. He had a beautiful move just outside the box; skills and some speed.
Title: Jones to the bench
Post by: Tallman on September 28, 2015, 03:53:18 PM
Jones to the bench

Joevin Jones has apparently lost his starting spot at left back under Bliss but may return to the position soon. His flexibility and offensive ability has kept him in the mix however, despite the recent dip in form. “Joevin plays really three spots. He can play internally. He can play left mid. He can play left back, depending on if he’s coming off his former club team at W Connection, his national team, or he’s played with us. He’s got some versatility. After he’s come back from the Gold Cup, it’s no secret, he hasn’t been in his top form like he was prior,” said Bliss. “I figured I’d try to give him a break and put him into the line-up as a sub in maybe a couple of other places we know he can play just to see if he could find a little bit of form and find his game. I thought he did okay in the Toronto game coming off the bench actually. He gave us a couple of plays that led to some stuff. I would think somewhere along the line in those last three games you’ll probably see him back at left back, doing what he was capable of doing in the first half of the season.”

http://www.chicagonow.com/fire-confidential/2015/09/fire-notebook-bliss-on-shipps-best-position-gilberto-tactics-more/
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on October 05, 2015, 05:37:37 AM
WATCH: Chicago Fire’s head coach, Brian Bliss, says Joevin Jones was the club’s best player on the field during the first half of the match against New England Revolution
https://www.youtube.com/v/TC6Iy0jhR7Q?start=58
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on November 11, 2015, 07:41:39 AM
Joevin Jones named as one of the ten best left backs in the MLS. Goal.com says “Joevin Jones is a real threat going forward, finishing second among all defenders with 32 chances created”
http://www.goal.com/en-ca/news/4175/major-league-soccer/2015/11/11/17204852/goal-usas-position-by-position-mls-player-rankings
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on December 04, 2015, 06:29:13 AM
Jones remains with Chicago Fire.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).


As Chicago Fire made cuts to its roster for next season, T&T winger Joevin Jones is guaranteed to be under contract with the American MLS club for 2016. But countryman Daneil Cyrus’ loan deal has expired and he will leave the club.

Thirteen players were left in a safe position with the club but nine other players were declined options.

“History has shown that the key to having a successful team in MLS requires a solid nucleus of players who have been together for some time,” Fire general manager Nelson Rodriguez said. “The players adversely affected are talented individuals as well, who we thank for their contributions to our Club and wish well in their careers going forward.”

Jones has been a force for T&T this year on the international stage and has been in good form for the Fire.

“I think this year was pretty good, especially for the national team,” Jones said. “My first season in the MLS has been a great experience.

“The level has been quite good and the club is ambitious and is at a very good level which I am happy about. I know we will be looking to continue improving and looking to achieve greater results in the new season.”

Commenting more on his performances for T&T which saw the team reach the quarterfinals of the CONCACAF Gold Cup and make a two-game unbeaten start to the 2018 World Cup qualifiers, Jones said, “I’m enjoying my form for the national team.

“I think I’ve come out of my shell now with the national team. I am more confident, playing more freely and really focusing on doing my best on what the coach wants and what is best for my teammates with me on the pitch.”

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: dreamer on December 04, 2015, 11:39:23 AM
Expect great things from you JJ. And Cyrus, doh worry some nice contracts coming for you shortly.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: andre samuel on December 04, 2015, 02:09:15 PM
Well i hope he gets a raise, because based on his exploits for FIRE this season, he has been good value for it!!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: loyalist on January 14, 2016, 02:51:42 PM
Maybe traded to Seattle Sounders!!!!!!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on January 14, 2016, 02:52:36 PM
Seattle Sounders acquire Joevin Jones from Chicago Fire (http://www.sounderatheart.com/2016/1/14/10770600/defender-joevin-jones-confirmed-as-player-traded-from-chicago-fire)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on January 14, 2016, 02:56:50 PM
This is great news.  The fact they wanted him enough to trade a pick bodes well for him
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on January 14, 2016, 05:25:43 PM
Sounders FC swaps SuperDraft pick, allocation money for Chicago Fire defender Joevin Jones
SoundersFC.com


Sounders FC shored up its back-line via a draft day trade on Thursday, swapping the 15th overall selection in the MLS SuperDraft and allocation money with the Chicago Fire for left back Joevin Jones.

Per league and club policy, details of the allocation money involved in the deal were not disclosed.

Jones, 24, comes to the Sounders after a solid debut season in MLS last year with the Fire, where he locked down the left side of the defense. Jones appeared in 28 games for Chicago (26 starts) and will likely become an immediate starting option in that spot for the Sounders when preseason camp opens later this month.

“We are excited to add a player of Joevin’s caliber to our roster,” said Sounders FC General Manager & President of Soccer Garth Lagerwey. “Making our roster younger and faster has been a priority for the club this offseason, and acquiring a player like Joevin fits that bill.”

Originally from Carenage, Trinidad & Tobago, Jones came to MLS after four seasons with Trinidad club W Connection. He also appeared in six games on loan with Finnish side HJK Helsinki in 2014.

Jones made his senior debut for Trinidad & Tobago in Sept. 2010 and has earned 37 international caps. He appeared in the CONCACAF Gold Cup in 2015 and 2013, and most recently started and logged 90 minutes in each of the team’s World Cup qualifying matches in November.

“Joevin is a player with speed and versatility that can come in and help our team,” said Sounders FC Head Coach Sigi Schmid. “He played well for Chicago this past season and we look forward to seeing what he brings to our roster.”

The Sounders leaned heavily on youngster Oniel Fisher at left back down the stretch last season, with the Jamaican rookie appearing in 12 games during the regular season and two more in the postseason.

Dylan Remick also appeared in 19 games at left back before Fisher took over during the final third of the season.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYt1CDzUkAAILtE.png:large)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on January 14, 2016, 06:36:48 PM
Joevin Jones Dealt to Seattle in Exchange for Draft Pick, Allocation Money
By Scott Hammer (chicago-fire.com)


Amid a slew of draft-day dealings, the Chicago Fire said goodbye to Trinidadian left back Joevin Jones on Thursday, sending him to Seattle Sounders FC in exchange for general allocation money and the No. 15 pick in the SuperDraft.

A second transaction, this one with the Colorado Rapids, turned that No. 15 selection into the No. 12 pick, where the Fire nabbed centerback Jonathan Campbell out of North Carolina.

The departure of Joevin Jones after a single but solid season in Chicago caught the attention of fans and pundits around the league. Jones played in 28 games with 26 starts in his debut MLS campaign, featuring primarily at left back but also showing an ability to glide into the attack, adding a goal and an assist.

He also impressed with his performances at the international level in 2015, most notably throughout Trinidad and Tobago’s run at the CONCACAF Gold Cup as well as in a Sept. 4 friendly vs. Mexico.

“Joevin Jones was a player that was coveted by many teams around the league,” GM Nelson Rodriguez said following the draft. “Over the course of the entire offseason, there have been steady offers made for his services. Through the combine and as we got closer to the draft, those offers increased.”

The execution of Chicago’s agreement with NYCFC to turn the No. 1 pick into highly touted outside back Brandon Vincent -- who last week was added to Jurgen Klinsmann's U.S. National Team January training camp -- and allocation money sealed Jones’ move to the Emerald City.

“It got to the point that in the scenario that could be viable, securing Brandon Vincent would enable us to move Joevin’s services, get a draft pick that we felt we could convert into a player, which we did, and again add more money to our allocation war chest," Rodriguez explained. "For us, it was a natural flow of events and part of things that we had outlined prior to walking into the draft room today.”
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 14, 2016, 07:25:29 PM
This trade of Joevin highlights everything that meshes US NT interest with MLS interests.

This is great news.  The fact they wanted him enough to trade a pick bodes well for him

The Fire believe they have replaced him with a more intelligent player.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: FF on January 14, 2016, 09:29:05 PM
This trade is accommodating to all parties and I suspect both sides feel they have gotten a steal.

As mentioned by asylum, Fire have traded their #1 pick for Vincent who is a direct replacement for Joevin and gotten allocation money and a subsequent draft pick for Jones. His departure also opens up a valuable International roster spot that they intend to fill.

Seattle have gotten a versatile, proven commodity in the MLS (albeit one season), still young with room for growth. They have also seemingly solved their year long quandary at left back and all it cost them was a 15th pick and some allocation money. No brainer.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 14, 2016, 09:56:17 PM
The other thing I'm trying to figure out is whether Jeremy Gunn is a boss recruiter, or whether Klinsmann has a bias for identifying West Coast talent for direct promotion to the NT, at the expense of other locations?!

Who knows? Maybe this should serve as a lesson to Woo Ling that he should go to college! Which, incidentally, is an item that separates him from De Silva.

Who is older? Levi Garcia or Woo Ling? :devil:
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on January 14, 2016, 09:59:20 PM
Seattle is an excellent club to be a part of, great organization in a city that rallies behind the club. Not to mention they're one of the better teams in the MLS. With Fire he was logging a lot of minutes and that had a positive impact in his development, I hope he doesn't go to the Sounders and ride pine.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on January 14, 2016, 10:06:46 PM
Does W Connection go ching ching on this move?!!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on January 15, 2016, 07:35:02 AM
Jones excited about Seattle switch.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago Midfielder Joevin Jones says he excited about his new move to Seattle Sounders in the American MLS but he is saddened that he has to leave a city that he had become attached to.

Jones was Seattle’s 15th overall SuperDraft pick on Thursday. The 24-year-old former W Connection player made 28 appearances in his lone season for Chicago. He scored his first MLS goal in a 3-2 win over Toronto FC.

“I’m excited about this move,” Jones told TTFA Media on Thursday.

“But I’m just a bit down knowing that I have to go to a new city and settle with new people especially after I had settled in Chicago and I grew to like the city.. But that’s part of it and it’s the life of a professional footballer.”

Jones will now be teaming up with American forward Clint Dempsey and Nigerian forward Obafemi Martins who has in the past played with Inter Milan, Newcastle, Birmingham City, VFL Wolfsburg and has 38 appearances for Nigeria, also appearing at the 2010 World Cup in South Africa.

“I’m looking forward to a good season and playing alongside Martins and Dempsey. These are two strong players and I think the squad will be a formidable one for the coming season. They have a good record and I will be looking to help them achieve more success this season,” said the Carenage-born player.

Jones also spoke about the upcoming year for the Trinidad and Tobago national team.

“It’s a huge year for us. Obviously I am still disappointed about now qualifying for the Copa America. But we have a lot to look forward to in 2016. The first aim is to get six points in the two games against St Vincent/Grenadines in March and start looking ahead to the final round. It will be anything but easy but I think we have the ability to get back on the right footing and enjoy a solid year on the international stage,” Jones added.

Title: Scouting Report: Joevin Jones
Post by: Tallman on January 15, 2016, 11:40:19 AM
Scouting Report: Joevin Jones
By Dave Clarke (sounderatheart.com)


Let's use the power of the SB Nation network to check in with Hot Time In Old Town to see what they think about losing their former left back to the Seattle Sounders. Sean is their former manager and still a writer there. The following is his scouting report on the Trinidad & Tobago national:

When Joevin Jones was signed by the Chicago Fire, the general reaction was puzzlement. The guy who'd flamed out on two trials with Toronto, of all places? He's the answer at left back? Of course, as the results bore out, there was plenty of reason to be skeptical of the personnel decisions of the then-Fire braintrust of Frank Yallop and his band of merry somnambulists - but the rancor over Jones' signing was short-lived, as he exceeded expectations from the first week of training camp. Now we're left scratching our heads again, this time because he's being shipped out.

Jones is a guy who can play anywhere on the left side of the pitch; most of his reps for the Fire were at left back, but he did feature as an out-and-out winger a few times, and plays that position routinely for Trinidad & Tobago. His primary attributes are fantastic pace, which he leverages by combining well at high velocity through the midfield. His first touch is uneven, and he much prefers dribbling toward the area to crossing. He has the positioning issues typical of a guy who's shifted to defense later in his career, but can often simply outrun those mistakes. He was an uncomfortable fit for the Men in Red in 2015, simply because attacking wingbacks usually struggle when asked to sit back and soak up pressure; the Fire were under siege most of the second half of the season, and Jones had difficulty making an impression under those circumstances.

All that said, Jones did come back from the Gold Cup in a bit of funk, and never really recovered. Rookie Patrick Doody took advantage of that to win the starting left-back job that had been Jones' from preseason. Was Jones making noises about his contract (which is admittedly a steal)? Was he just tired from international play? Did Yallop decide that playing a swashbucking wingback on a bunker-and-counter side was madness, and prefer Doody's safety-first inclinations? Here's the maddening thing about supporting the Fire: We know that we'll never know.

My best guess? Garth Lagerway just fleeced the Fire something fierce, and Jones will become the Leo Gonzalez replacement Seattle's needed for a couple years. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jones on MLS Best XI lists sometime over the next three years.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on January 15, 2016, 11:41:51 AM
WATCH: Seattle Sounders FC's GM and President of Soccer Garth Lagerwey speaks about the club’s acquisition of Joevin Jones
https://www.youtube.com/v/DMVaKZyc_LU

WATCH: Seattle Sounders FC’s Head Coach Sigi Schmid speaks about adding Joevin Jones to their roster
https://www.youtube.com/v/7lSPt9xMuZ8

WATCH: Seattle Sounders welcomes Joevin Jones
https://www.youtube.com/v/_4-hkNnC11w
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on January 16, 2016, 08:34:15 AM
Joevin Jones, by the Numbers
sounderatheart.com


In 2015, Joevin Jones was one of 47 players in Major League Soccer to accumulate at least 1000 minutes as a starter at a fullback/wingback position. That position alone isn't particularly descriptive; it includes everything from attacking specialists (New England's Chris Tierney is an extreme example) to stay-at-home defenders (for example, Montreal's Donny Toia). When I tell you Tierney created chances from open play 4 times more often than Toia, the comparison more meaningfully contrasts playing style than ability.

READ MORE... (http://www.sounderatheart.com/2016/1/15/10775696/joevin-jones-by-the-numbers)
Title: What does Joevin Jones bring to the Seattle Sounders?
Post by: Tallman on January 16, 2016, 04:31:47 PM
What does Joevin Jones bring to the Seattle Sounders?
By Paul Taylor (emeraldcityswagger.com)


The Seattle Sounders made a significant move at the MLS SuperDraft by trading for Joevin Jones, but how exactly will his addition impact the team?

The Seattle Sounders understand the MLS SuperDraft is somewhat of a crapshoot. Compared to the likes of the NFL and NBA, the chances of a selection panning out are often lower.

As such, the Sounders should be commended for Thursday’s trade, when they acquired Joevin Jones from the Chicago Fire. In fact, you could almost accuse Seattle of daylight robbery, as all they had to give up in return was the 15th overall pick and allocation money.

Jones immediately strengthens the defense at the left back position. As coach Sigi Schmid told Matt Pentz of The Seattle Times: “(He) checked all the boxes in terms of things we’re looking for.”

The Trinidad and Tobago international’s addition is a tremendous coup for the Sounders. Chicago fielded multiple offers during Thursday’s draft.

While Jones is undoubtedly an upgrade for the Sounders, how much depends on who you speak to. For example, former Fire coach Frank Yallop believes Jones is close to being the best left back in MLS.

However, some pundits believe the 24-year old does not cross the ball enough, something which is often expected of fullbacks. In addition, he sometimes has positional issues, although he can normally overcome this, due to his excellent speed.

Ultimately, the Sounders are thrilled by what Jones brings to the Pacific Northwest. As General Manager & President of Soccer Garth Lagerwey told soundersfc.com: “We are excited to add a player of Joevin’s caliber to our roster.

“Making our roster younger and faster has been a priority for the club this offseason. Acquiring a player like Joevin fits that bill.”

One last aspect to consider is the Carenage, Trinidad and Tobago native’s versatility. If needed, he is more than capable of playing as a winger, something which he has done both at the MLS and international level.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: 100% Barataria on January 16, 2016, 06:21:59 PM
Nice city too man, enjoy yourself JJ  :beermug:
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on January 16, 2016, 07:53:13 PM
Nice city too man, enjoy yourself JJ  :beermug:

Except in March
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on January 25, 2016, 06:03:47 PM
WATCH: Seattle Sounders FC defender Joevin Jones speaks to media following training on what it means to join the club, his thoughts on the team's current roster and how he ended up in MLS from his home country of Trinidad and Tobago.

https://www.youtube.com/v/QSCOG6084bg
Title: Joevin Jones isn’t Sounders’ biggest new name, but he’ll be a critical addition
Post by: Tallman on January 25, 2016, 08:16:31 PM
Joevin Jones isn’t Sounders’ biggest new name, but he’ll be a critical addition
By Matt Pentz (Seattle Times)


The acquisition of Joevin Jones didn’t feature a photo shoot on top of the Space Needle or a special presentation involving the club’s owner, general manager, coach and sporting director.

The Sounders weren’t even able to officially confirm the draft-day trade for the left back until hours after the details leaked out. They and the Chicago Fire were frantically trying to track down the player to give him the news before going public.

But Seattle’s trade of its only first-round SuperDraft pick and allocation money to Chicago for Jones filled the most glaring need in its starting 11.

And though defenders rarely inspire the pomp and circumstance surrounding the signing of U.S. men’s national team forward Jordan Morris last week, the addition of Jones was an important bit of business, as well.

Outside backs always play influential roles on Sigi Schmid’s teams. Sounders sporting director Chris Henderson and longtime U.S. national team standby Cobi Jones played there for Schmid’s UCLA Bruins, and Robbie Rogers for his Columbus Crew. DeAndre Yedlin has been the highest-profile example on the MLS Sounders, but Schmid has always relied on talented two-way speedsters to stretch the field.

The need is especially pressing given the tactical tinkering likely to define Seattle’s first few months of this campaign.

Schmid has hinted that the Sounders will experiment with a three-forward formation in lieu of last year’s 4-4-2. And while chemistry is being developed and partnerships defined, versatile defenders who can both push forward and cover for mistakes at the back will be invaluable.

“Outside backs, even in a 4-4-2, in today’s day and age, outside backs have become far more important and more complete players,” Schmid said Monday.

“The outside backs see more of the ball; sometimes your initial buildup coming out of the back is through them. When you look around the world and see different outside backs, there are guys who are instrumental in their teams’ ability to retain possession.”

The opening at left back developed in part because of Leo Gonzalez’s age — the 35-year-old signed with Herediano in his native Costa Rica last month — and Dylan Remick’s inconsistency late last season. That a right-footed rookie, Oniel Fisher, was the team’s best defensive option on the left during playoff time spoke volumes.

“In the last two seasons, Dylan has had some good moments,” Schmid said. “He’s also had some moments where it hasn’t gone as well. I think Dylan is stronger having gone through that experience.”

Jones still enters preseason camp as a clear No. 1 on the depth chart. The 24-year-old has been easy to pick out during Seattle’s first two practice sessions at Starfire Sports Complex — orange cleats and nearly-as-bright hair forming a distinctive blur burning up the left sideline.

“I’m always composed on the ball,” Jones said when asked to describe his game. “I can dribble, can go down the line and get some good crosses in. I’ve got some speed, as well.”

That last point was the first one most of his new teammates brought up.

“Quick,” goalkeeper Stefan Frei said. “He’s a really quick guy. … First impression: Good player, very athletic and good with the ball at his feet.”

Jones’ hometown of Carenage, Trinidad and Tobago, is a fishing village first and vacation destination second. But the Jones brood is a soccer family. Father Kelvin is a former T&T international, and an uncle also played professionally.

“Football is in our blood,” Joevin said Wednesday with a slightly puffed chest.

Joevin Jones made his international debut at 19 in 2010, coming on as a second-half substitute in a match against Panama. He helped lead W Connection, a club on the southern part of his home island, to a league championship and was named team captain before the 2013 season.

Jones tried his luck abroad, spending part of 2014 on loan with HJK Helsinki in Finland, before hearing of Chicago’s interest.

“The opportunity was a big one for me, to show my worth,” Jones said.

That’ll be the case in Seattle, as well, for a team with legitimate MLS Cup aspirations whose lineup shuffling will only increase the pressure on the back line.

No, the trade for Joevin Jones wasn’t the headliner of the Sounders’ offseason, but it could be an integral part of their 2016 destiny nevertheless.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on February 17, 2016, 07:34:30 PM
WATCH: Seattle Sounders broadcast analyst Alan Hinton says Joevin Jones could be the best left back in the club’s history
https://www.youtube.com/v/89KHF-gd3Ww?start=77
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on February 24, 2016, 12:20:03 PM
Seattle Sounders FC’s goalkeeper, Stefan Frei, comments on the play of Joevin Jones during a CONCACAF Champions League Quarterfinals First Leg match against Mexico’s Club America:

“He played well. He is a very, very good player and a great addition for us. He knows when to go forward and he has good pace. He is also a good defender. He can shuttle players out wide and if they take it out wide he still has the pace to catch up and then close it down. I am really happy he is on the squad. Like I said it is going to take us a little bit of time to gel for all of us again and get into the rhythm of things but I’m happy for all of the guys in front of me.”
http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sounders/seattle-sounders-2-club-america-2-post-match-quotes/
Title: Joevin Jones' debut was solid yet unspectacular
Post by: Tallman on February 26, 2016, 10:22:36 PM
Joevin Jones' debut was solid yet unspectacular
By Ryan Cowper (sounderatheart.com)


After a promising preseason, Tuesday's match against Club America was in a way going to define our expectations of Joevin Jones this season. This was, in all likelihood, going to be the premier level of opposition that he'll face this season as long as Club America brought a majority of their first team. In that respect, Club America did not disappoint as they pitted not just Mexican national team right back Paul Aguilar but also Colombian national team striker Darwin Quintero directly against the youngster from Trinidad and Tobago.

And Joevin Jones more than held his own on both sides of the ball.

He combined for 2 interceptions in the box and a tackle on Aguilar in the defensive end to pair with 8 recoveries. He was an active defender on the left and kept Aguilar from doing damage with his passing in the Sounders' half.

On the offensive side of the ball, Jones was a box-to-box player holding down the left side of the Sounders' tactical schema single handedly. But he accomplished this with much more than his dribbling and passing, as Jones made a concerted effort to push play back into the center of the pitch and the waiting feet of both Clint Dempsey and Andreas Ivanschitz. The centralized approach worked to suck the America forwards into the middle on defense, neutralizing their ability to get in behind Jones as he did made his forays deep into the opposition half.

This had it's most dramatic effect on Darwin Quintero. The Colombian was most dangerous when making runs from outside in trying to move off the back shoulder of the Sounders line. When he was forced to come inside to defend by Jones' almost steadfast approach to pushing play into the middle, he became largely ineffective on offense. Meanwhile Jones' pace and aggressive stance on the left kept Paul Aguilar isolated wide, opening space for both Dempsey and Ivanschitz to attack the space between himself and the America centerbacks separating them.

While nothing Jones did was particularly flashy, he showed conservatism and a commitment to the gameplan on offense to go with a commanding control of his own portion of the pitch on defense. While that's not to say he was flawless because he made mistakes in either phase of the game --  like every other Sounder on the pitch -- if this is the ability he can bring to the Sounders week-in and week-out, I can't wait to see what we can do against MLS quality oppositions.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: trini_stallion on February 27, 2016, 06:17:30 AM
Joevin!!!!
Title: Review of Joevin Jones' performance vs Club America
Post by: Tallman on February 27, 2016, 04:26:40 PM
I heard a considerable debate about the merits of Jones' game on Tuesday, but I can definitively state that after my analysis, he played above MLS average in my opinion.

Jones announced himself in the 3rd minute with a calm control while he retained possession under pressure. In the 17th minute he showed range getting forward and putting in a well-placed cross. I was really impressed with his 1v1 defending, and he does it with a combination of athleticism (28th minute shutting down the entire right side of America's offense) and intelligence (67th just beating an attacker to the spot in the box to earn a goal kick). On defense Jones looked calm and assertive.

Jones did have a number of mistakes, and I noted some unforced errors he will need to fix, like his poor pass in the 7th minute. The main issues I had with his performance revolve around decision making. Multiple times (55th, 64th) Joevin was caught in possession. Because the wing is so wide open with no committed wide midfielder in front of him he will need to learn where the release point in the formation is. If that is going to be a center mid square pass, a forward down the line, or even the opposite corner flag he needs to recognize these outlet points and use them if he gets in trouble instead of taking on multiple opponents and losing possession. A good team will (and CA did) counter immediately into the holes he leaves when advancing. Jones needs to have a plan, which seemed lacking on multiple occasions when he attacked to the corner of the 18 and was unsure if he should cross or drop the ball.

One factor that continually impressed me about Jones was just how essential he was to what the Sounders were pulling off. I am not sure how many people in the league would be able to do what he did. Having a guy completely cover about 75 yards of the field allowed so many good things to happen. His pace and quality play tilted the entire field away from his side and limited the numbers that America was able to push on his wing. Maybe most importantly it kept the SSFC center mids tight to the middle of the field. This was huge, as it stopped the team from getting stretched and let Alonso and Friberg play destroyer in the middle. Any buildup had to be over the top or off counters, and I believe Jones was a big reason CA's only goals came from a break out and when the Sounders were stretched and fatigued.


http://www.sounderatheart.com/2016/2/27/11126412/realios-ratings-club-america-leg-1
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: dtool on February 27, 2016, 05:51:30 PM

Thanks ...... Thanks for the update
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 02, 2016, 07:40:10 PM
Joevin is on now v. America.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Rastaman on March 03, 2016, 08:02:01 AM
Watched most of the game last night.. Joevin's excellent pass out of defense is what lead to the first goal. But right after he was left in no man's land between two players and could not make up his mind and they equalized mere seconds after going ahead.

This team plays without a left midfielder as Dempsey starts on the left, but is clearly a central player. It showed a few times as Joevin was caught up field, and the team exploited the space he had left. This is something that the team has to solve in training, possibly changing their formation.

They played against a team that scouted them well and exploited their weaknesses....

That being said they are still in Pre-Season so it would be hard on them to really compete against a team in full season. MLS has to do something about that if they want to realistically challenge in this tournament in the future.


On Joevin's game.... 50-50. A few mistakes but mostly solid. Got in some good covering and tracking and a few 1 vs 1 tackles. I expect his play.....and the team's play to improve. Against lesser MLS opposition these problems might not even be evident.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 03, 2016, 10:01:47 AM
Watched most of the game last night.. Joevin's excellent pass out of defense is what lead to the first goal. But right after he was left in no man's land between two players and could not make up his mind and they equalized mere seconds after going ahead.

This team plays without a left midfielder as Dempsey starts on the left, but is clearly a central player. It showed a few times as Joevin was caught up field, and the team exploited the space he had left. This is something that the team has to solve in training, possibly changing their formation.

They played against a team that scouted them well and exploited their weaknesses....

That being said they are still in Pre-Season so it would be hard on them to really compete against a team in full season. MLS has to do something about that if they want to realistically challenge in this tournament in the future.


On Joevin's game.... 50-50. A few mistakes but mostly solid. Got in some good covering and tracking and a few 1 vs 1 tackles. I expect his play.....and the team's play to improve. Against lesser MLS opposition these problems might not even be evident.

I expected more from Seattle, and I agree with you regarding the calendar, buh lehwe also submit that MLS is a league out of step with the FIFA calendar. That's also influential.

I expected more from Seattle because América has been unimpressive in the league (yuh might look at the league table subject to my comments; buh trust meh ... it's misleading).

Here is the other thing doh: de altitude. Ought not be left out of the picture.

Seatte's passing last night was frequently imprecise. Best example of that: Dempsey guiding the flank to where he wanted the ball (one of his best attributes)... and the ball ends up near the corner flag!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on March 03, 2016, 10:04:10 AM
Watched most of the game last night.. Joevin's excellent pass out of defense is what lead to the first goal. But right after he was left in no man's land between two players and could not make up his mind and they equalized mere seconds after going ahead.

Don't think he could have done much about it as the winger hit a one time pass. It was a well orchestrated goal.

https://www.youtube.com/v/9OtFJRMzaLc
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 03, 2016, 02:28:54 PM
Watched most of the game last night.. Joevin's excellent pass out of defense is what lead to the first goal. But right after he was left in no man's land between two players and could not make up his mind and they equalized mere seconds after going ahead.

Don't think he could have done much about it as the winger hit a one time pass. It was a well orchestrated goal.

https://www.youtube.com/v/9OtFJRMzaLc

Was now about to post almost word for word what you did here
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on March 04, 2016, 05:20:02 AM
Joevin shifts focus to MLS season.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).


Joevin Jones played the full encounter but his Seattle Sounders suffered a 3-1 loss to Club America in the  Scotiabank CONCACAF Champions League quarter final clash at the Azteca Stadium in Mexico City on Wednesday night. Sounders lost  the two-game series 5-3 on aggregate.

“It’s always tough playing at the Azteca but again it’s disappointing to be out of the Champions League. Hopefully we can get our heads back together and bounce back with a good start to the league,” said Jones who had one attempt on goal during the match.

“We had three leads,” Sounders head coach Sigi Schmid said. “And our leads have lasted like three minutes.” The Sounders will turn their focus toward the MLS regular season opener on Sunday against Sporting Kansas City at CenturyLink Field.

Jones is expected to return home later this month to join the national team for the two 2018 World Cup qualifiers against St Vincent/Grenadines on March 25 (Away) and March 29 at the Hasely Crawford Stadium.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on April 21, 2016, 05:41:16 AM
Seattle Sounders coach Sigi Schmid wants Joevin Jones to be more aggressive, especially in one-on-one situations against defenders (http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sounders/sounders-practice-notes-joevin-jones-comes-off-the-bench-marco-pappa-to-miss-saturdays-rapids-match/).
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Dutty Love on April 21, 2016, 06:24:12 AM
Seattle Sounders coach Sigi Schmid wants Joevin Jones to be more aggressive, especially in one-on-one situations against defenders (http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sounders/sounders-practice-notes-joevin-jones-comes-off-the-bench-marco-pappa-to-miss-saturdays-rapids-match/).

This is unfprtunately a common denominator for many of the players. The TT Pro league is very relaxed when it comes to "aggressive" factor
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: andremartinsc on June 01, 2016, 07:54:34 PM
Joevin supersub! Scored a goal and created the chance for Jordan Morris's goal too! Seattle 2 x 0 DC United.

PS: DeLeon looked really bad this match.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on June 01, 2016, 08:29:02 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones scores his first goal for Seattle Sounders in their 2-0 win over DC United (http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/06/01/goal-joevin-jones-chips-his-finish-past-hamid?autoplay=true)

WATCH: Joevin Jones gets the assist on Jordan Morris’ goal in Seattle Sounders 2-0 win over DC United (http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/06/01/goal-jordan-morris-puts-seattle-ahead-d-c?autoplay=true)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: FireBrand on June 01, 2016, 08:37:05 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones scores his first goal for Seattle Sounders in their 2-0 win over DC United (http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/06/01/goal-joevin-jones-chips-his-finish-past-hamid?autoplay=true)

WATCH: Joevin Jones gets the assist on Jordan Morris’ goal in Seattle Sounders 2-0 win over DC United (http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/06/01/goal-jordan-morris-puts-seattle-ahead-d-c?autoplay=true)

Jones is more effective in midfield than LB. Was wondering when the Sounders coach would catch on.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 02, 2016, 05:37:02 AM
Love his recovery and accl to get into position once they regained possession. A ball hog would have wanted a lateral pass in MF potentially killing the play.

Good goal JJ  :beermug:
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on June 02, 2016, 07:12:35 AM
It was bittersweet night. Glad we homie scored. But meh team lost their 4th home game!
Title: Seattle Sounders defender Joevin Jones shifts position, shines in win
Post by: Tallman on June 02, 2016, 08:31:11 AM
Seattle Sounders defender Joevin Jones shifts position, shines in win
By Cameron Rizzardini (SoundersFC.com)


Joevin Jones has a brand new bag and it’s playing winger for Seattle Sounders FC. The young fullback came into Wednesday’s match away at D.C. United late for midfielder Andreas Ivanschitz who was playing left wing with game locked at 0-0.

“We knew we could bring him on at left back or we felt maybe we’ll bring him on at left wing,” said head coach Sigi Schmid on his plan for Jones coming into the match. “We’ll see how the game goes.”

In the 74th minute, Schmid decided to forego Jones’ traditional fullback position and deployed him at left wing instead, where he made an immediate impact.

In the 79th minute, Jones exchanged a nice give and go with forward Jordan Morris setting himself up for a tight angle shot which forced D.C. United goalkeeper Bill Hamid to parry into the middle of the box. The ball fell to Morris, who found the narrow gap between two defenders and finished across Hamid for the go ahead goal and his fifth of the season.

“He [Jones] was a huge spark for us,” said Morris. “He came in and worked hard defensively and offensively…I’m really happy for him.”

Jones then grabbed a goal for himself in the 83rd minute when midfielder Osvaldo Alonso picked the pocket of midfielder Marcelo Sarvas and played Jones brilliantly into space. Jones then finished the chance by slotting the ball coolly between the outstretched arm and leg of Hamid with the composure of a seasoned striker. The goal was Jones’ first for the Sounders.

“It feels good to get my first goal for the Sounders,” said Jones after the match. “I feel great; I feel relief.”

While this may be a new position for Jones as a Sounder, he is no stranger to it in international play. Jones plays far up the field in most matches for his home county of Trinidad and Tobago.

“I’m accustomed to playing that position for my country,” said Jones. “I told Sigi I am comfortable there.”

Could this be a sign of things to come from Jones? With the season off to a rocky start and Schmid still fitting the pieces together in the team's new 4-3-3 formation, a performance like tonight certainly won’t go ignored. Schmid, however, was cautious to indicate that this could be a new spot for Jones moving forward.

“I still think he’s an outstanding attacking left back,” he told reporters. “I just think Joevin has so much talent. I just always want more so maybe I’m greedy and today he gave it to me.”
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on June 10, 2016, 03:11:10 AM
Joevin joins Molino on MLS All Star Selection.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).


Joevin Jones has joined countryman Kevin Molino on the list of players who have made the final selection for those vying for a pick on the MLS All Star team to face Arsenal on July 28.

Molino made the cut last month and Jones who has been enjoying a fine run for Seattle Sounders in the past few matches was also added to the cast.  Jones scored his first goal for Seattle in a recent 2-0 win over DC United.

Both Jones and Molino are from Carenage and are gearing up for the September 2nd World Cup qualifier at home to Guatemala. Both players also missed T&T’s recent matches against China, Uruguay and Peru.

“It was a great feeling to get my first goal for Seattle. And now it feels good to be considered for the MLS All Stars. There are some great players up for the picks but hopefully either myself or Kevin (Molino) or maybe both of us can make the final team. As for now we are just both keeping focused for our clubs and getting ready for the next set of World Cup qualifiers, “ Jones said.

Fans can vote on via mlssoccer.com up until July 4.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 10, 2016, 05:12:55 AM
MW in contention?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mose on June 10, 2016, 09:18:07 AM
MW in contention?
I was wondering the same thing. He's made team of the week twice already this season. I would think he should be considered.

EDIT: Just checked. No MW! Sucks! Voted for Molino and JJ though.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on June 17, 2016, 07:27:33 AM
WATCH: Joevin Jones scores a late goal in Seattle Sounders FC’s 2-0 win over Kitsap Pumas in the the 4th round of the US Open Cup.
https://www.youtube.com/v/B_0lqGt6f0E?start=172

WATCH: Post-match interview with Joevin Jones after his goal helped to seal a 2-0 win for the Seattle Sounders over Kitsap Pumas in the 4th round of the US Open Cup.
https://www.youtube.com/v/VTI1Ued2qpc
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on June 26, 2016, 11:46:44 PM
JJ played left forward from the start.  I goin to check out a replay of the game to see how he was in that position.
Unfortunately he made a wayward pass in the back that led to NY's second goal.
Hopefully he learns from that.
I hope he keeps at it, he has a lot to offer in attack.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on June 27, 2016, 05:03:15 AM
JJ played left forward from the start.  I goin to check out a replay of the game to see how he was in that position.
Unfortunately he made a wayward pass in the back that led to NY's second goal.
Hopefully he learns from that.
I hope he keeps at it, he has a lot to offer in attack.
His defensive lapse lead to the first goal too. Hopefully he can pick his head up.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Thomo on June 27, 2016, 02:01:52 PM
Earlier in the week one poster was surprised that Joevin hadn't been picked up by a Premier League team as he believed that he had the quality. These lapses in concentration and the ability to be switched on for 90 minutes are his biggest flaws. The last game against USA he was totally absent in the second half. Remember when he had that trial at Udinese and we saw highlights of him training where he was just gazing while they had a scrimmage? Well thats another example. His mental toughness, concentration and tactical awareness are his biggest faults. No doubting his technical ability though.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: palos on June 27, 2016, 10:10:59 PM
His mental toughness, concentration and tactical awareness are his biggest faults. No doubting his technical ability though.

Mental toughness eh?

How many other players would have had the "mental toughness" to deliver a ball of quality for Yohance Marshall to score in the last seconds of the game with his team behind against Mexico, with all Linda missiles raining down on him from the stands?

Talk about convenient amnesia
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Sam on June 28, 2016, 03:29:48 AM
His mental toughness, concentration and tactical awareness are his biggest faults. No doubting his technical ability though.

Mental toughness eh?

How many other players would have had the "mental toughness" to deliver a ball of quality for Yohance Marshall to score in the last seconds of the game with his team behind against Mexico, with all Linda missiles raining down on him from the stands?

Talk about convenient amnesia

Doh study them Palas .....

JJ is a f00cking boss !!!!!

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: trini_stallion on June 28, 2016, 04:15:31 AM
Earlier in the week one poster was surprised that Joevin hadn't been picked up by a Premier League team as he believed that he had the quality. These lapses in concentration and the ability to be switched on for 90 minutes are his biggest flaws. The last game against USA he was totally absent in the second half. Remember when he had that trial at Udinese and we saw highlights of him training where he was just gazing while they had a scrimmage? Well thats another example. His mental toughness, concentration and tactical awareness are his biggest faults. No doubting his technical ability though.

Man had a not so good game and you judging him based on that?

Let's just say he did go to a PL for shots and giggles, just imagine how much more he'd develop his already great talents!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on July 09, 2016, 03:42:09 PM
joevin had ah ok game attacking from fullback, but again lapsed on the LA goal......he's my countryman eh, but his defensive and positional awareness questionable doh fancy him as a LWB at all at least d defensive part, should be given more time at LW IMO
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on July 09, 2016, 05:23:00 PM
joevin had ah ok game attacking from fullback, but again lapsed on the LA goal......he's my countryman eh, but his defensive and positional awareness questionable doh fancy him as a LWB at all at least d defensive part, should be given more time at LW IMO
Yep. More than once they catch him sleeping in that game. He do alright going forward, but he eh really start going forward until middle of the second half.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Thomo on July 10, 2016, 06:34:27 AM
Let's just hope his concentration is 100% in games, if/when we get to the Hex.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on July 14, 2016, 05:24:39 AM
WATCH: Joevin Jones scores his second goal of the season in Seattle Sounders’ 5-0 rout of FC Dallas.

https://www.youtube.com/v/8FcyIB4JA5Q?start=162
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on July 17, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
get subbed off today. didn't like how he played...and would even go as far as to blame him for 2 of the goals. obviously the 1v1 losing his man. but the one before was just lazy running back so his central defender had to cover Jones' man and the shooter. arguably our 2nd best player fighting up with men who can't even make the US squad. but on the bright side he not playing left back for tnt and Hart would get in his ear if he was trying to run like that for tnt. and going forward he did earn quite a few corners. We have a long road ahead in this WC campaign but i think we could scrape it...still in the scrappy underdog role.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on July 17, 2016, 03:18:03 PM
get subbed off today. didn't like how he played...and would even go as far as to blame him for 2 of the goals. obviously the 1v1 losing his man. but the one before was just lazy running back so his central defender had to cover Jones' man and the shooter. arguably our 2nd best player fighting up with men who can't even make the US squad. but on the bright side he not playing left back for tnt and Hart would get in his ear if he was trying to run like that for tnt. and going forward he did earn quite a few corners. We have a long road ahead in this WC campaign but i think we could scrape it...still in the scrappy underdog role.

He is not a LWB, is either LB or LW, and I prefer LW, simply because he does not read the game well enough defensively for that kind of double duty. he is especially prone to getting turned on the backpedal when attacks breakdown. won't have much of a future at Sounders if he continues to get owned the way he has been over the past weeks.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on July 17, 2016, 06:45:42 PM
No trinis in the all star squad vs Arsenal.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on July 31, 2016, 04:04:34 PM
good game today stayed alert had some nice crosses and coulda score..shoulda do better with d chance to be honest....but did good nonetheless.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 20, 2016, 06:15:46 AM
Allyuh want beat? Take beat.

WATCH: Some neat footwork by Joevin Jones throws the Real Salt Lake defense into disarray. (https://twitter.com/sounderatheart/status/764965897760968705)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 20, 2016, 09:33:41 AM
Allyuh want beat? Take beat.

WATCH: Some neat footwork by Joevin Jones throws the Real Salt Lake defense into disarray. (https://twitter.com/sounderatheart/status/764965897760968705)

Natural intuition. Can't coach that.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on August 24, 2016, 09:06:22 PM
another assist today. seems like they relieve him of the defensive duties and he out and out winging.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mose on August 25, 2016, 06:37:32 AM
That was yesterday. Sunday night he was playing defense.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on August 25, 2016, 08:29:38 AM
I don't like to judge based on highlights cuz yuh doh see all the hard work but in the previous game I saw him make a mistake that allowed a striker to get through on goal. In defense he has been kinda shaky at times.

Good for him to come on and help rescue a point. The pass was brilliant to be honest. He ketch everybody trying to block nearer the goal.

Even when he playing left back he occupies that attacking space on the left so might as well play him in midfield.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: g on August 25, 2016, 08:44:18 AM
I still find him a bit docile when playing for the Sounders, we only get glimpses of what we know he can do much more regularly.

Schmid encouraged him to be more attacking and played him in more advanced positions at times so i don't think its a matter of the team tactics forcing him to be more defensive.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mose on August 25, 2016, 11:34:10 AM
I don't like to judge based on highlights cuz yuh doh see all the hard work but in the previous game I saw him make a mistake that allowed a striker to get through on goal. In defense he has been kinda shaky at times.

Good for him to come on and help rescue a point. The pass was brilliant to be honest. He ketch everybody trying to block nearer the goal.

Even when he playing left back he occupies that attacking space on the left so might as well play him in midfield.

If you're referring to the bad pass straight to the opposing player, yeah, I saw that. Apart from that though he didn't have a bad game. Just didn't have much impact on the offensive end. I seem to remember one decent run forward and a couple of nice passes out of the defense, up to the forwards. However, I did notice several occasions when he was free in space on the left and they chose to play the ball out to the right.

I still find him a bit docile when playing for the Sounders, we only get glimpses of what we know he can do much more regularly.

Schmid encouraged him to be more attacking and played him in more advanced positions at times so i don't think its a matter of the team tactics forcing him to be more defensive.

Agreed, apparently even the new team tactics encourages both fullbacks to make outside runs to help on the offensive end. I also remember a review of one of his first games with the team which mentioned his ability to control the entire left side of the field.

My suspicion is that he hasn't quite worked out or perfected how to balance his defensive responsibilities with his offensive responsibilities hence his tendency to disappear during games.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Thomo on August 25, 2016, 01:14:59 PM
I don't like to judge based on highlights cuz yuh doh see all the hard work but in the previous game I saw him make a mistake that allowed a striker to get through on goal. In defense he has been kinda shaky at times.

Good for him to come on and help rescue a point. The pass was brilliant to be honest. He ketch everybody trying to block nearer the goal.

Even when he playing left back he occupies that attacking space on the left so might as well play him in midfield.

If you're referring to the bad pass straight to the opposing player, yeah, I saw that. Apart from that though he didn't have a bad game. Just didn't have much impact on the offensive end. I seem to remember one decent run forward and a couple of nice passes out of the defense, up to the forwards. However, I did notice several occasions when he was free in space on the left and they chose to play the ball out to the right.

I still find him a bit docile when playing for the Sounders, we only get glimpses of what we know he can do much more regularly.

Schmid encouraged him to be more attacking and played him in more advanced positions at times so i don't think its a matter of the team tactics forcing him to be more defensive.

Agreed, apparently even the new team tactics encourages both fullbacks to make outside runs to help on the offensive end. I also remember a review of one of his first games with the team which mentioned his ability to control the entire left side of the field.

My suspicion is that he hasn't quite worked out or perfected how to balance his defensive responsibilities with his offensive responsibilities hence his tendency to disappear during games.

Glad you noticed it as well but last time I mentioned his lapses in concentration I got berated for it. Good technical player but that's his only fault.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 02, 2016, 06:27:55 PM
Wish things had gone differently in Italy, even if Serie B. When a Latin American commentator calls a player a "crack", that eh no light comment.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on September 02, 2016, 08:24:47 PM
Wish things had gone differently in Italy, even if Serie B. When a Latin American commentator calls a player a "crack", that eh no light comment.

still can't believe that Seattle won't let him play higher up the wings more often
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 02, 2016, 08:29:31 PM
Wish things had gone differently in Italy, even if Serie B. When a Latin American commentator calls a player a "crack", that eh no light comment.

still can't believe that Seattle won't let him play higher up the wings more often

The best outcome would be for someone to plug him away from Seattle but he would need more international exposure for that to happen.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on September 02, 2016, 08:36:38 PM
Wish things had gone differently in Italy, even if Serie B. When a Latin American commentator calls a player a "crack", that eh no light comment.

still can't believe that Seattle won't let him play higher up the wings more often

The best outcome would be for someone to plug him away from Seattle but he would need more international exposure for that to happen.

true...very true
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: gawd on pitch on September 02, 2016, 09:02:04 PM
2nd goal. Goal of the night.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on September 02, 2016, 09:11:21 PM
Goals were great, but I did not find JJ played that great tonite.  our mid gave  Guat. too much time to play their game.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: g on September 02, 2016, 10:29:42 PM
Joe doesn't even know how good he is and can be.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Sam on September 03, 2016, 05:10:59 PM
Ah think Joevin plays better on the right, wha allyuh say?

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: fari on September 03, 2016, 05:53:25 PM
Wish things had gone differently in Italy, even if Serie B. When a Latin American commentator calls a player a "crack", that eh no light comment.

still can't believe that Seattle won't let him play higher up the wings more often


boy...he is a decent wingback but if you free him from that defensive responsibility he is a monster
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on September 03, 2016, 06:00:54 PM
Wish things had gone differently in Italy, even if Serie B. When a Latin American commentator calls a player a "crack", that eh no light comment.

still can't believe that Seattle won't let him play higher up the wings more often


boy...he is a decent wingback but if you free him from that defensive responsibility he is a monster

found this (http://www.sounderatheart.com/2016/9/3/12783162/watch-joevin-jones-brace-trinidad-tobago) earlier today apparently many sounders fans doh know what he capable of......there is only 4 comments but the general sentiment seems to be shock, and surprise. but he cyar do dat from wingback d mental sharpness jus not dey for dat, sad to say

but to repeat dey wasting him
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on October 03, 2016, 04:02:19 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones provides the assist on the Seattle Sounders FC’s opening goal in their 2-1 win over Vancouver Whitecaps.

https://www.youtube.com/v/m-imqZ143NU?start=72
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on October 27, 2016, 10:22:25 PM
Winning assist in the 88th minute tonight.  :applause:
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mose on October 28, 2016, 11:25:29 AM
Unfortunately, didn't do much before that. But then the same could be said about the whole Sounders team. They got away with one last night. And on top of that the goal was actually offside. Say what, that's the way it goes some times.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on October 28, 2016, 12:33:09 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones provides the assist on Seattle Sounders FC’s game-winning goal against Sporting Kansas City which sees them advance to the MLS Western Conference Semifinals.

https://www.youtube.com/v/sukgvDiVphE
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on October 30, 2016, 08:50:04 PM
Joevin with another assist, cross to Valdez again to score a header.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on October 30, 2016, 08:57:13 PM
JJ with another assist for the 3rd goal....in fact his pass led to the 2nd goal as well
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 30, 2016, 08:57:54 PM
JJ, having a night. He made a long pass for another assist. 2 assist. Hope that rubs off on the MNT.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on October 30, 2016, 10:10:54 PM
really good performance by Joevin tonight. if wiki right & he's only 25 i really wish his agent will show him a path up from the mls as soon as these playoffs finish.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on October 31, 2016, 07:14:13 AM
WATCH: Defender Joevin Jones provides two assists in Seattle Sounders FC’s 3-0 win over FC Dallas

https://www.youtube.com/v/i48ukh1q73E?start=92
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mose on October 31, 2016, 08:26:50 AM
Better game by JJ last night. The Sounders team as a whole played much better than they did on Thursday though.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on October 31, 2016, 03:04:18 PM
Better game by JJ last night. The Sounders team as a whole played much better than they did on Thursday though.  :beermug:

he played a key ball in all three goals too, I fancy him more as a passer/receiver type player than an out and out runner.....
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on October 31, 2016, 03:52:40 PM
Better game by JJ last night. The Sounders team as a whole played much better than they did on Thursday though.  :beermug:

he played a key ball in all three goals too, I fancy him more as a passer/receiver type player than an out and out runner.....
u mean like a footballer, but who on we side do u fancy as an out an out runner..or any side, just tryin to see your line of reference.. ???
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on October 31, 2016, 04:16:26 PM
I just want JJ to play a regular left back using his brain and skills. When is time to attack ..... attack, when is time to defend .... defend. Nothing spectacular. Just defend for your dear live and attack like a cheetah!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on October 31, 2016, 05:18:22 PM
Better game by JJ last night. The Sounders team as a whole played much better than they did on Thursday though.  :beermug:

he played a key ball in all three goals too, I fancy him more as a passer/receiver type player than an out and out runner.....
u mean like a footballer, but who on we side do u fancy as an out an out runner..or any side, just tryin to see your line of reference.. ???
I mean  I think he is more effective when he can find that killer pass or create space to bring others into the game as opposed to when he just bolts down the wings.....
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: palos on October 31, 2016, 06:13:18 PM
JJ's talents are primarily on the offensive end of things.  Those crosses he whips in from the left are delicious.  T&T hasn't had someone with that ability to cross the ball consistently from wide into dangerous areas since Birchall.  And Me Mum was not used as a wide player for T&T.

Like Brazil & Real Madrid's Marcelo....he's a bit of a defensive liability.....but the fact that he CAN defend is tempting for teams to utilize him in that role.  The problem is he's also a weak link defensively so teams attack through that channel...especially when he overlaps.

But he's a great weapon to have...no doubt.

I saw the entire game against Dallas.  Statistically, he had 2 assists, but in reality...he also provided the outlet pass for Morris to make the run that put the Dallas defence under pressure to concede the 3rd goal.

Even the commentators didn't realize the quality of the ball he put on Valdez' head by initially saying it was a "decent cross".  They were so anxious to gush over Valdez that it was only on the replays they realized just how fantastic a delivery the ball from Joevin was.

Beckhamesque.....from the left side.


Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: ffisback on October 31, 2016, 10:07:33 PM
Its good to see J Jones improve his game  instead of just running up the field his positional play while defending is much better he has added crosses to his game and is now able to pick players out with his passes but its unlikely teams in Europe will buy a defender that is a liability  that is not a Brazilian.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on November 01, 2016, 06:08:31 PM
WATCH: Seattle Sounders midfielder Cristian Roldan speaks to the media about Joevin Jones’ performance against FC Dallas.

https://www.youtube.com/v/3c9LZtUFixM
Title: Joevin Jones was one of the best players on the field against FC Dallas
Post by: Tallman on November 02, 2016, 02:49:46 PM
Joevin Jones was one of the best players on the field against FC Dallas. He’s capable of even more for Sounders
By Matt Pentz (The Seattle Times)


Even in the aftermath of Joevin Jones’ finest performance as a Sounder, one of his teammates wondered whether he wasn’t still holding something back.

Jones was a two-way terror throughout Seattle’s 3-0 win over Dallas last Sunday in the first leg of their Western Conference semifinal series. The 25-year-old left back held his own against FCD’s crafty coterie of wingers. He stretched the field wide with aggressive runs deep into Dallas’ defensive half.

Jones notched two assists – the looping cross onto Nelson Valdez’s head in the 50th minute plus the long pass that set up Nicolas Lodeiro’s breakaway shortly thereafter – and could have been credited with a third for his role in the buildup of the other Sounders goal.

And yet, asked about Jones in the locker room after the match, Valdez’s first reaction was to bring up the potential still unfulfilled.

“I’ve told him, he has the potential to play in Europe, easily,” Valdez said. “I still think he’s playing just 50 percent of what he can.”

If Sunday night was Jones at half-capacity, then the draft-day trade with Chicago in exchange for a late-first-round pick and allocation money was even more of a fleecing than it already looks like.

Jones has steadily improved during his first season in Seattle, particularly after interim head coach Brian Schmetzer took over in late July. The installation of Osvaldo Alonso and Cristian Roldan as a defensive midfield partnership has provided greater cover, and Jones has flourished with additional freedom to push forward into the attack.

“Chemistry has been the most important thing,” Roldan said. “Especially throughout the second part of the season, he’s progressed. … He came here as a good player, but the role he’s in allows him to be the player that he is.”

Jones’ role with the Sounders still differs with the one he occupies with the Trinidad and Tobago national team. For T & T, Jones often plays as an attacking winger – often effectively, too, netting four goals in World Cup qualifiers so far this year as the Soca Warriors advanced to the final round.

Schmetzer, though, has held firm that the Sounders view Jones as a left back, filling a position traditionally hard to capably staff in MLS.

“I think he is a winger at heart,” Roldan said. “He’s honestly a very good one-v-one defender. I think people don’t expect that from him because of his attacking qualities, but you don’t see a lot of people running past him.

“He’s definitely a winger at heart, but I think this role suits him.”

There’s a duality to Jones – country and club, attack and defense – that helps explain his greater inconsistency earlier this year. Even with his late-season surge, Jones can still be the type of player that drives coaches crazy. He’s high-risk, high-reward, lights out one game and seemingly disinterested the next.

Jones was benched by former Sounders coach Sigi Schmid after a particularly uninspiring display in Houston back in April. It was his lazy turnover that sealed the home loss to New York City FC in late June, a defeat that led to an impassioned speech by captain Brad Evans about the lack of urgency he sensed in some of his younger teammates.

“Maybe they’ve been at teams where losing is a tradition and you wait for the next season to get a fresh start,” Evans said at the time.

When Jones has got it going like he did against FC Dallas, you get a sense of all of it: the rare talent and special player that Jones can be, and the frustration he can elicit when glimpses of that are less forthcoming.

“I think Joevin has a really high ceiling,” said Schmetzer when asked about Valdez’s “50 percent” characterization. “I would agree with that, absolutely.”

What must he do to reach that potential?

“Keep working. Keep doing what he’s doing,” Schmetzer said. “He has a ton of talent. He’s still young. Getting used to maybe playing at left back for us, when he plays in the midfield for his national team, some of those nuances, as you get a little older, you get more experienced. You take what games give you.”

Jones did that and more against Dallas. With the visitors playing with a five-man defense, Jones had all kinds of open spaces to push into and exploit. He picked his spots well, handled his defensive duties like a veteran.

For both the Sounders and Jones himself, that signature performance on Sunday night at CenturyLink might very well be just the beginning.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on November 02, 2016, 04:06:00 PM
Joevin ready to jostle with Los Ticos.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago winger Joevin Jones will be on the field for Seattle Sounders on Sunday night in their second leg MLS Playoff with Dallas FC.

Both he and teammate Aubrey David who plays for Dallas, will likely be on the next flight out the following morning bound for Port of Spain to join the National Senior Team camp for next Friday’s 2018 CONCACAF World Cup qualifier against Costa Rica at the Hasely Crawford Stadium.

Jones has been on top of his game for Seattle Sounders, setting up two of their goals in last weekend’s 3-0 thrashing of Dallas with two pinpoint deliveries in the second half and has come in for much praise in the MLS arena.

But next week his focus will switch to Trinidad and Tobago’s World Cup mission and his own ambitions to play on the world’s biggest stage.

“Yeah it feels good to be doing well for Seattle. I thought we had a great performance against Dallas and I was happy with my performance. Hopefully we can complete the job on Sunday,” Jones told TTFA Media.

“But next week is another story. We have two big games coming up against Costa Rica and Honduras. I was disappointed with the way we played and lost to Martinique. I think it is important that we put that behind us and get our act together for the Costa Rica game. This is a massive game for us,” Jones added.

The 25-year-old has six goals in 55 appearances for T&T, having also played for the National Under 17, Under 20 and Under 23 teams.

“It’s been a long time it seems for me playing for the country and every player dreams of making it to the highest level. I know my dad (Kelvin Jones) got very close to going to a World Cup (1990) and now I am part of a squad that is a few good results away from getting to a World Cup. It would mean a lot to me and my family to achieve that. And the country will surely be on top of the world.

“But first things first, we have to get it done on the field and get a good result against Costa Rica next Friday. I expect it to be a very tough game but once we prepare well and we play our game with confidence, then we can take the points and go to Honduras next and try to get something there as well,” Jones added.

The Costa Ricans, nicknamed Los Ticos, have qualified for four World Cups and are unbeaten in World Cup qualifiers in T&T.

T&T head coach Stephen Hart will  name his final squad on Friday with players beginning to arrive into camp from this coming weekend

Tickets remain on sale at all Lotto Locations with the early bird sale running until Friday. Those tickets currently cost $300 (covered section) and $160 (uncovered section). From November 5th until match-day, tickets will then cost $350 (covered) and $200 (uncovered).

Season Passes are available at all First Citizens Bank Branches nationwide. Fans can call the TTFA season pass hotline at 270-6868 for more information.

Costa Rica names squad to face T&T, USA

Costa Rican head coach Oscar Ramirez on Wednesday announced his roster to face Trinidad and Tobago and the United States later this month.

Real Madrid goalkeeper Keylor Navas has been included. Celso Borges, Yeltsin Tejeda and Sporting duo Bryan Ruiz and Joel Campebll are among the 2014 World Cup veterans in the squad. The MLS also is well-represented with Kendall Waston and Cristian Bolanos of the Vancouver Whitecaps, Ronald Matarrita of NYCFC, and Johan Venegas of the Montreal Impact included, along with MLS Cup champion Rodney Wallace, who now plays in Brazil.

One familiar face, both for Costa Rica and for MLS fans, who is missing is Giancarlo Gonzalez. The former Columbus Crew center back suffered an adductor tear with Serie A side Palermo and is not fit to make the list.

Costa Rica Roster

Goalkeepers: Keylor Navas (Real Madrid), Patrick Pemberton (Alajuelense) Esteban Alvarado (Trabzonspor)

Defenders: Johnny Acosta (Herediano), Kendall Waston (Vancouver Whitecaps), Michael Umana (Alajuelense) Francisco Calvo (Saprissa), Cristian Gamboa (Celtic) Ronald Matarrita (New York City FC), Bryan Oviedo (Everton), Jose Salvatierra (Alajuelense) Pablo Salazar (Herediano).

Midfielders: Randall Azofeifa (Herediano), Celso Borges (Deportivo La Coruna), Yeltsin Tejeda (Lausanne), David Guzman (Saprissa), Bryan Ruiz (Sporting Lisbon), Cristian Bolanos (Vancouver Whitecaps), Johan Venegas (Montreal Impact), Rodney Wallace (Recife)

Forwards: Joel Campbell (Sporting Lisbon), Ariel Rodríguez (Bangkok Glass), Marco Uren (Brondby)

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on November 02, 2016, 07:41:33 PM
really good performance by Joevin tonight. if wiki right & he's only 25 i really wish his agent will show him a path up from the mls as soon as these playoffs finish.

Like they read my post for that article orwa  ;D

Joevin Jones was one of the best players on the field against FC Dallas. He’s capable of even more for Sounders
By Matt Pentz (The Seattle Times)


Even in the aftermath of Joevin Jones’ finest performance as a Sounder,
...

The 25-year-old left back held his own against FCD’s crafty coterie of wingers. ...


, Valdez’s first reaction was to bring up the potential still unfulfilled.

“I’ve told him, he has the potential to play in Europe, easily,” Valdez said. “I still think he’s playing just 50 percent of what he can.”
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on November 03, 2016, 10:10:53 AM
Those were some boss passes in the highlights.
Dallas right back was missing though
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: palos on November 03, 2016, 11:32:50 AM
really good performance by Joevin tonight. if wiki right & he's only 25 i really wish his agent will show him a path up from the mls as soon as these playoffs finish.

Like they read my post for that article orwa  ;D

Joevin Jones was one of the best players on the field against FC Dallas. He’s capable of even more for Sounders
By Matt Pentz (The Seattle Times)


Even in the aftermath of Joevin Jones’ finest performance as a Sounder,
...

The 25-year-old left back held his own against FCD’s crafty coterie of wingers. ...


, Valdez’s first reaction was to bring up the potential still unfulfilled.

“I’ve told him, he has the potential to play in Europe, easily,” Valdez said. “I still think he’s playing just 50 percent of what he can.”

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Jones has steadily improved during his first season in Seattle, particularly after interim head coach Brian Schmetzer took over in late July. The installation of Osvaldo Alonso and Cristian Roldan as a defensive midfield partnership has provided greater cover, and Jones has flourished with additional freedom to push forward into the attack.

KEY


FULL ARTICLE (http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sounders/joevin-jones-was-one-of-the-best-players-on-the-field-against-fc-dallas-hes-still-capable-of-even-more/)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 03, 2016, 02:27:54 PM
A very reliable source told me that a well known European club is expressing interest in one of our boys in the MLS. Maybe it's Jones? Or Molino? Or perhaps a rumor. Won't know for sure until the end of the season or when the transfer window opens in January..
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on November 04, 2016, 03:48:19 PM
WATCH: Seattle Sounders defender Joevin Jones talks about his improved play through the 2016 season

https://www.youtube.com/v/Yxl-1hxcSJ8
Title: Sounders’ Jones helping propel team forward in playoffs
Post by: Tallman on November 05, 2016, 09:27:29 PM
Sounders’ Jones helping propel team forward in playoffs
By Todd Milles (Tacoma News Tribune)


A year ago, Joevin Jones was cleaning out his locker with Major League Soccer's worst team — the Chicago Fire.

Now, the lightning-quick Trinidad & Tobago native is assisting on some of the biggest goals in Seattle Sounders playoff history.

In the knockout round 10 days ago, it was Jones' left-footed cross to Nelson Valdez in the 88th minute that netted the lone goal in a 1-0 victory over Sporting Kansas City.

And last Sunday, that Jones-Valdez combination worked in the same manner. Charging up the left sideline, Jones' cross hit Valdez's head in stride for the game-winning goal early in the second half of a 3-0 victory over top-seeded FC Dallas in the first leg of a Western Conference semifinal series.

"(Valdez) always attacks crosses. He is always in the right position. He knows where to run. And he is experienced enough," Jones said. "I am happy to serve balls in there."

Valdez certainly has been a key trigger man in these playoff matches. But Jones' contributions — three assists — have not gone unnoticed.

"Joevin is probably been our unsung hero," Seattle midfielder Cristian Roldan said. "He's been good throughout the year, but he's come up big in the playoffs."

It took a full season for the Sounders to eventually find DeAndre Yedlin's replacement at left back.

Last season, Tyrone Mears primarily played was the left-side defender, but shifted over to right back in 2016 after the team jettisoned aging defender Leo Gonzalez in the offseason.

That left a starting position open — one the Sounders filled in a trade last January.

After an 8-20 record, the Fire cleaned house, bringing in new general manager Nelson Rodriguez and new coach Velijko Paunovic, who wanted to retool the roster immediately.

Seattle sent its 2016 first-round pick and allocation money to get Jones. Chicago turned that pick into getting defender Jonathan Campbell. The Fire also eventually traded for Brandon Vincent to play left back.

"It's tough for me to say, 'Hey, we got the better end of that because they got a bunch of assets which they wanted to rebuild," Sounders general manager Garth Lagerway said. "Anytime you have a new regime coming in, they are going to have different opinions of certain players."

That's not to say the Sounders aren't giddy about the return in Jones, who fits in well with nucleus of excitng young players, along with Roldan and forward Jordan Morris.

Jones is an attacking left back who has the speed to play deep at both ends of the field.

Earlier this seasion, former Seattle coach Sigi Schmid often lauded Jones' off-the-charts talent, but showed frustration over the 25-year-old's inconsistent effort, especially on defense.

Lately, that effort has improved. Jones has also been playing with a broken toe throughout the summer and early-fall months - one that has required "three or four injections before every game," he said.

"(Jones) has always been committed (to playing defense)," new Sounders coach Brian Schmetzer said. "He is a very good (one-on-one) defender, but people might forget that with all the flash and attention he's gotten with the assists and attacking movement."

Now a veteran on the Trinidad & Tobago national team, Jones is enjoying his first season with an MLS organization greatly supported by a raucous fan base — and one that is set to make a long run in the postseason.

"Seattle ... the atmosphere is awesome. You don't get to play in an atmosphere like this often," Jones said. "I landed in a great position. I am moving forward in the right direction in my career. It is a blessing."
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: andremartinsc on November 07, 2016, 06:51:05 AM
I've been impressed with J. Jones since his first match for the Sounders. He was the best LB in MLS this season, in my opinion.
Joevin could be an amazing wingback in a 3 defenders formation, and would be an even better LB in a 4-4-2 or a similar formation with a left winger that tracks back and defend too.

I can't wait for the Hexagonal. And once again I'm hoping to see Bostock on the pitch for T&T.
Cheers fellow Trinidadians. ;D
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 05, 2016, 12:25:56 PM
Quote
Hart: I think this team has collectively—because that is the strength of the team—the potential to fight for one of those four spots. We would need a minimum of eight people on top of their game. We could carry one or two people not at their best. But no more.

We need somebody like Joevin Jones at his best. But not only when he gets the ball. He has to do what is necessary off the ball. If Joevin Jones learns to play football without the ball, he can play for a big, big club. Statistically, off the ball, he is in the minus. On the ball there is no arguing [about what he adds to the Soca Warriors].

Wired868: Do you think he has the ambition to play for a really big club?

Hart: You have to ask Joevin that. I won’t answer that for him, even though I have the answer.

http://www.socawarriors.net/senior-team-news/19191-the-strain-the-support-molino-wired868-s-final-chat-with-stephen-hart-as-t-t-coach.html

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mose on December 06, 2016, 10:11:27 AM
Hart: I think this team has collectively—because that is the strength of the team—the potential to fight for one of those four spots. We would need a minimum of eight people on top of their game. We could carry one or two people not at their best. But no more.

We need somebody like Joevin Jones at his best. But not only when he gets the ball. He has to do what is necessary off the ball. If Joevin Jones learns to play football without the ball, he can play for a big, big club. Statistically, off the ball, he is in the minus. On the ball there is no arguing [about what he adds to the Soca Warriors].

Wired868: Do you think he has the ambition to play for a really big club?

Hart: You have to ask Joevin that. I won’t answer that for him, even though I have the answer.

http://www.socawarriors.net/senior-team-news/19191-the-strain-the-support-molino-wired868-s-final-chat-with-stephen-hart-as-t-t-coach.html


Long ass article but a very good read. Quite informative. And I'm still not even halfway thru.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Controversial on December 06, 2016, 01:24:53 PM
Hart: I think this team has collectively—because that is the strength of the team—the potential to fight for one of those four spots. We would need a minimum of eight people on top of their game. We could carry one or two people not at their best. But no more.

We need somebody like Joevin Jones at his best. But not only when he gets the ball. He has to do what is necessary off the ball. If Joevin Jones learns to play football without the ball, he can play for a big, big club. Statistically, off the ball, he is in the minus. On the ball there is no arguing [about what he adds to the Soca Warriors].

Wired868: Do you think he has the ambition to play for a really big club?

Hart: You have to ask Joevin that. I won’t answer that for him, even though I have the answer.

http://www.socawarriors.net/senior-team-news/19191-the-strain-the-support-molino-wired868-s-final-chat-with-stephen-hart-as-t-t-coach.html


Long ass article but a very good read. Quite informative. And I'm still not even halfway thru.

Like I've been saying for over a decade or more, Hart is a boss
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Controversial on December 06, 2016, 01:33:11 PM
Another man that would have been in this category eventually would have been cummins, sadly I don't know what his situation is now
Title: T&T international Joevin Jones eager for MLS Cup final
Post by: Tallman on December 10, 2016, 03:33:40 PM
T&T international Joevin Jones eager for MLS Cup final
CONCACAF.com


Joevin Jones could culminate a memorable season on Saturday night by going from worst to first in just 12 months.

That would happen if his Seattle Sounders defeat host Toronto FC in the MLS Cup final at BMO Field.

Last year, the Trinidad & Tobago defender played for the Chicago Fire, which finished with the poorest record of all 20 Major League Soccer clubs.  He was traded by Chicago to Seattle in January and has enjoyed one of his most memorable campaigns.

"I'm excited to be in the finals because not many players get to be in the final," Jones said Friday.  "Obviously, I am in a bigger team.  No disrespect to Chicago.  We are a better team than Chicago."

The Sounders have never won a First Division championship in the United States, although it has captured the Lamar Hunt/U.S. Open Cup four times.

If Seattle winds up as champion, it would be a fourth league title for the 25-year-old Jones, who won two TT Pro League championships with DirecTV W Connection in his native country and with HJK Helsinki (Finland) in 2014.

"It would mean a lot to me and the fans," expressed Jones.  "The fans have been waiting a long while to lift the MLS Cup.  Once you win it, it's for them, it's for the fans."

Seattle endured a bumpy stretch during the season in which it fired long-time head coach Sigi Schmid and replaced him with assistant Brian Schmetzer.  The Sounders went 6-1-1 in their final eight regular-season matches to clinch a playoff berth while registering an impressive 4-1 mark thus far in the postseason.

"We were going through a patch that we went through a losing streak," Jones noted.  "We turned it around the last three-four months right into the playoffs.  I'm very happy."

In addition to the MLS crown, with a win, the Sounders will qualify for the 2017/18 Scotiabank CONCACAF Champions League.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Sando on December 11, 2016, 09:26:47 AM
First T&T player to win MLS Cup?

Tallman !!!

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: FF on December 11, 2016, 09:56:37 AM
Birchall won it
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Fyzoman on December 11, 2016, 11:25:54 AM
Birchall won it
Yeah boy FF the man win 2011; come on as a sub in the 57th...good ting yuh say something yes, I about to say JJ was the first yes:)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 11, 2016, 11:26:48 AM
Congrats to JJ.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Fyzoman on December 11, 2016, 11:29:21 AM
On ah related not...it cah be just me, but doesn't it seem like Joevin does move kinda unstoppable going forward? As if no matter who he confront he could blow past them?? Yeah ah bias no ass!

Big up yuhself Joevin!!!!

Complimentary ticket to de boat ride of your choice when yuh go home ;)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 11, 2016, 12:34:06 PM
On ah related not...it cah be just me, but doesn't it seem like Joevin does move kinda unstoppable going forward? As if no matter who he confront he could blow past them?? Yeah ah bias no ass!

Big up yuhself Joevin!!!!

Complimentary ticket to de boat ride of your choice when yuh go home ;)

I glad for JJ and wish him successful in the immediate and long term future. But Hart made a correct assessment on his game. His going forward is fine, but he needs to work on perfecting his defending to be a top class player.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2016, 01:05:30 PM
On ah related not...it cah be just me, but doesn't it seem like Joevin does move kinda unstoppable going forward? As if no matter who he confront he could blow past them?? Yeah ah bias no ass!

Big up yuhself Joevin!!!!

Complimentary ticket to de boat ride of your choice when yuh go home ;)

I glad for JJ and wish him successful in the immediate and long term future. But Hart made a correct assessment on his game. His going forward is fine, but he needs to work on perfecting his defending to be a top class player.

He can be world class, I was one of his biggest critics at first but I'm happy he proved me wrong and has done well... them fans was outside in the freezing cold in Toronto.. I saw the stadium was full, 60k from the highway.. JJ and them try to buss a lime after but the club was closed by the time they reach.. I also hear JJ don't smoke, which is a very good thing .. guard your lungs brother
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: che on December 11, 2016, 01:18:07 PM
Congrats to JJ. He played a perfect game. JJ and the Sounders put tears in my eyes beating my TFC without taking a shot on goal. On a side note I had no idea just how big JJ is until I saw him next to Altidore. If he puts on a little bit of muscle he would be unstoppable.
 
Title: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: palos on December 12, 2016, 11:17:02 AM

Pep has serious problems at wing back and rumor is JJ on the radar
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: g on December 12, 2016, 11:18:43 AM

Pep has serious problems at wing back and rumor is JJ on the radar

Source?
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Dinner Mints on December 12, 2016, 01:39:25 PM
You want Pep get run outta town.
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: palos on December 12, 2016, 01:46:01 PM
You want Pep get run outta town.

I eh sayin he will get de gig.  I say he on de radar.  Unlikely to get a move in January in part because he is an unknown....but from reports I heard...he has been noticed.
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Jumbie on December 12, 2016, 01:54:45 PM
fella had a solid game on Saturday night.. funny how after all that time and COLD, he didn't look bun as the norm with our players when they wearing the red, white and black

if true.. all the best to him oui
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: palos on December 12, 2016, 02:02:02 PM
fella had a solid game on Saturday night.. funny how after all that time and COLD, he didn't look bun as the norm with our players when they wearing the red, white and black

if true.. all the best to him oui

Think bout it.

which one is a scenario where yuh most likely to BUN?

When is -5 degrees celcius and running keeps you warm?

Or when is 35 degrees celcius and humidity makes it feel like 40?
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Jumbie on December 12, 2016, 03:20:47 PM
P.. I played (American football) at -5 (actually -14C) and that burn you get in your throat/lungs is not joke.

Not sure how hot conditions/humidity or freezing conditions (can have relative humidity as well) relate to stamina, but what I saw of him that night.. he played with a purpose
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: palos on December 12, 2016, 03:41:12 PM
P.. I played (American football) at -5 (actually -14C) and that burn you get in your throat/lungs is not joke.

Not sure how hot conditions/humidity or freezing conditions (can have relative humidity as well) relate to stamina, but what I saw of him that night.. he played with a purpose

He better.  If he...or anyone for that matter...cyah get up for a final.....then he gone tru before he even start  ;)
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Peong on December 12, 2016, 05:53:17 PM
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: chelsealife on December 12, 2016, 07:00:11 PM
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!
Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: palos on December 12, 2016, 07:41:52 PM
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!

DJW droolin all over heself in anticipation

EXCEPT

Quote
Transfers which involve a non-MLS club work the same way european transfers do, however, whenever you sell a player to a non-MLS club you will have to pay 33% of the transfer value as a commission to the MLS, or just 25% if the player had Home-Grown status;

So leh we say JJ get sell for US$1M (just using a nice easy figure...not what an actual transfer fee is likely to be)

MLS will get US330K

Seattle will get US$670K

UNLESS

JJ contract is such where no matter where he goes, at what stage of his career, his home club in T&T gets a cut of the transfer fee.

Now remember......the transfer fee is between the clubs

Then there are personal terms (salary, signing bonus, loyalty bonus, appearance bonus, incentives, sponsorship deals etc) that are all usually negotiated by an agent.  Of course the agent will get a cut as well.

So home teams are WAAAAAYYYYY down the list of priorities, if they on the list at all.
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Peong on December 12, 2016, 09:20:39 PM
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!
Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

I will reveal my sources when Palos reveal his.
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: asylumseeker on December 12, 2016, 09:27:18 PM
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!
Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

I will reveal my sources when Palos reveal his.

Allyuh will have Joevin Sleepless in Seattle.
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: congo on December 12, 2016, 09:53:55 PM
No "top 6" team in a major european league is even considering a 25+ year old mls player. :bs: :bs:
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Controversial on December 12, 2016, 10:01:45 PM
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!
Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

I will reveal my sources when Palos reveal his.


I have heard German clubs are interested, not sure about the others, but peong is not talking shit
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Controversial on December 12, 2016, 10:02:29 PM
Bayern Munich, PSG, Barca and a certain monsieur zidane are rumoured to be fans.
Gih dem JJ!
Lol this is so hard to believe. Top of the food chain u talking bout here. Where u get this info from??

I will reveal my sources when Palos reveal his.

Allyuh will have Joevin Sleepless in Seattle.

 :D
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Controversial on December 12, 2016, 10:07:21 PM

Pep has serious problems at wing back and rumor is JJ on the radar

Interesting, I knew Bayern was mentioned in the mix with other bundesliga clubs but man city.. hmmm I like the psg rumour, ala dinho.. he will suit Barca well, in fact he will be one of the best wingers in the world if he wants it bad enough and works for it...

Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Controversial on December 12, 2016, 10:08:50 PM
You want Pep get run outta town.

Bull, unknowns can make him look like a genius if it pans out.. pep has belly, not like people locally who can't scout the best player even if they are under their nose..
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: congo on December 12, 2016, 10:32:17 PM
He's valued at 300 thousand euros on transfermarket.com.....When last clubs like Man City pay those sort of pennies for a player. Let's keep with reality here fellas. Not gonna happen. MLS is not taken seriously in europe. Plus the added complication of work permit etc. It just not gonna happen. At 25+ he is already to old to make a move to a top epl team from mls. Had he been 16-19 then he would have had a chance.
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Controversial on December 12, 2016, 10:58:17 PM
He's valued at 300 thousand euros on transfermarket.com.....When last clubs like Man City pay those sort of pennies for a player. Let's keep with reality here fellas. Not gonna happen. MLS is not taken seriously in europe. Plus the added complication of work permit etc. It just not gonna happen. At 25+ he is already to old to make a move to a top epl team from mls. Had he been 16-19 then he would have had a chance.

That's a bargain for JJ, his age doesn't mean anything... he has 5-7 years of top flight football...more than enough to gamble on.. the work permit won't be a complication ... he could swing it in Germany and France...
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: congo on December 12, 2016, 11:13:10 PM
Man City just paid £47.5 million for 22 year old John Stones. I don't think they care to make bargains.

 Again his age is everything in this. MLS is a considered a lower league. Any player coming from there would be seen as inferior and would need to make major improvements in order to cut it in any first and second leagues in europe. They not gonna "gamble" on a guy whose only exposure has been mls and who is already over 25. This isn't about "gambling".

He will be 26 soon. At 25 Ozil had been signed by Arsenal having already played for such teams as Schalke, Werder Bremen and Real Madrid and having made over 50 caps for Germany in a world cup and euro cup. Age is everything.

His 5-7 years of top flight football is irrelevant. Any move to a european club isn't going to be to a 'top flight" club. MLS just isn't on the radar for major european clubs looking for talent. There are too many available options right in europe.

Look in most quarters mls just isn't viewed as a serious league for development and talent etc.
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Controversial on December 12, 2016, 11:19:18 PM
Man City just paid £47.5 million for 22 year old John Stones. I don't think they care to make bargains.

 Again his age is everything in this. MLS is a considered a lower league. Any player coming from there would be seen as inferior and would need to make major improvements in order to cut it in any first and second leagues in europe. They not gonna "gamble" on a guy whose only exposure has been mls and who is already over 25. This isn't about "gambling".

He will be 26 soon. At 25 Ozil had been signed by Arsenal having already played for such teams as Schalke, Werder Bremen and Real Madrid and having made over 50 caps for Germany in a world cup and euro cup. Age is everything.

His 5-7 years of top flight football is irrelevant. Any move to a european club isn't going to be to a 'top flight" club. MLS just isn't on the radar for major european clubs looking for talent. There are too many available options right in europe.

Look in most quarters mls just isn't viewed as a serious league for development and talent etc.

We agree to disagree my friend... what is impossible with man is possible to God
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: trini_stallion on December 13, 2016, 06:40:51 AM
Didn't jj went in a trial at ac Milan back in the day??? I know for sure it was a seria a club...
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: asylumseeker on December 13, 2016, 07:24:52 AM
He's valued at 300 thousand euros on transfermarket.com.....When last clubs like Man City pay those sort of pennies for a player. Let's keep with reality here fellas. Not gonna happen. MLS is not taken seriously in europe. Plus the added complication of work permit etc. It just not gonna happen. At 25+ he is already to old to make a move to a top epl team from mls. Had he been 16-19 then he would have had a chance.

I take your broader point, but it happens that players valued even less than that (per transfermarkt data) have been on the radar of BIG clubs.

P.S. Don't ignore the distinction between valuation and what is paid ultimately.
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Thomo on December 13, 2016, 07:35:01 AM
It was Udinese. We saw some footage of him in training where he was gazing and they sent him home within a few days as they weren't impressed with what the saw.
Didn't jj went in a trial at ac Milan back in the day??? I know for sure it was a seria a club...
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: asylumseeker on December 13, 2016, 07:35:13 AM
Man City just paid £47.5 million for 22 year old John Stones. I don't think they care to make bargains.

 Again his age is everything in this. MLS is a considered a lower league. Any player coming from there would be seen as inferior and would need to make major improvements in order to cut it in any first and second leagues in europe. They not gonna "gamble" on a guy whose only exposure has been mls and who is already over 25. This isn't about "gambling".

He will be 26 soon. At 25 Ozil had been signed by Arsenal having already played for such teams as Schalke, Werder Bremen and Real Madrid and having made over 50 caps for Germany in a world cup and euro cup. Age is everything.

His 5-7 years of top flight football is irrelevant. Any move to a european club isn't going to be to a 'top flight" club. MLS just isn't on the radar for major european clubs looking for talent. There are too many available options right in europe.

Look in most quarters mls just isn't viewed as a serious league for development and talent etc.

Be careful about blanket statements. Will name just one: Matt Miazga.

If you were to have looked at Miazga's transfermarkt valuation in September/October 2015, it would have been 100,000. Have a look now.

Granted, some extenuating factors however existed in his case, but they bore no relationship to valuation/cost.
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Thomo on December 13, 2016, 07:52:53 AM
This just doesn't sound plausible. No quotes just a regular socawarriors.net poster and a 26 year old Joevin's current form. MLS is at best mid-Champlionship and League 1 level that European clubs and sadly, even club supporters turn their noses up from the time you mention MLS. The only reason why I watch it sometimes is to see our local players, I can't get one Brit to feast their eyes on it. Over the years their have been a few that have been bought to the European scene but it's rare that they could hack it and they always ever have to return. Hope it works out for the young man but I just can't buy it without any proof. Premiership is about five notches up from MLS
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: asylumseeker on December 13, 2016, 07:57:01 AM
 Palos wreaking havoc again.  :salute:  :)
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Peong on December 13, 2016, 09:03:37 AM
I feel he could play for a decent Portuguese or Dutch team easily. They appreciate technical players like him. I eh know what the work permit situation would be now.
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: elan on December 13, 2016, 07:35:55 PM
Dude is playing at the level HE is comfortable with.
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Controversial on December 13, 2016, 07:53:19 PM
Dude is playing at the level HE is comfortable with.

You know that for a fact? Gospel?
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: elan on December 13, 2016, 08:05:40 PM
Dude is playing at the level HE is comfortable with.

You know that for a fact? Gospel?
Wait all these ah feel, ah hear, ah think (most by you) and now you want me to provide concrete evidence 😒

Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: Controversial on December 13, 2016, 08:19:51 PM
Dude is playing at the level HE is comfortable with.

You know that for a fact? Gospel?
Wait all these ah feel, ah hear, ah think (most by you) and now you want me to provide concrete evidence 😒



Difference is I heard it from others, you positioned it like you hear it directly from him... two different things my friend..
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: congo on December 13, 2016, 10:52:21 PM
Not happening....
Title: Re: Man City looking at Joevin Jones?
Post by: andre samuel on December 14, 2016, 08:14:52 AM
smh@this thread....

Look at bacchanal Palos caused
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: palos on January 09, 2017, 04:10:44 PM
Doh get tie up

Allyuh think Joevin goin and risk getting injured in de FIFA equivalent of a passa passa football tournament ahead of his medical with Man City?

January window is now.  Saintfiet lookin to cause stress for Joevin by his utterances.  Thankfully actions speak louder than words
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Controversial on January 09, 2017, 04:14:45 PM
Doh get tie up

Allyuh think Joevin goin and risk getting injured in de FIFA equivalent of a passa passa football tournament ahead of his medical with Man City?

January window is now.  Saintfiet lookin to cause stress for Joevin by his utterances.  Thankfully actions speak louder than words

People locally really blind fam, they undervalue their own people and praise others aboard who are mediocre lol it's a joke
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: trini_stallion on January 25, 2017, 11:46:52 AM
Anything on this fella?? I did a google search, and not even a whifff of a transfer rumor going around!???!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on January 25, 2017, 02:49:27 PM
Anything on this fella?? I did a google search, and not even a whifff of a transfer rumor going around!???!

This thread didn't come up? How much more rumor you want!!  ;D
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on January 25, 2017, 10:02:13 PM
Anything on this fella?? I did a google search, and not even a whifff of a transfer rumor going around!???!
On TV tonight they were covering Dempsey returning to training with the team and I saw JJ in the mix so all is well with him in Seattle.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: andremartinsc on March 03, 2017, 08:44:36 AM
There was a fan pool in MLS subreddit about the best XI on the league. Molino and Joevin are part of it.

Joevin has the lowest salary on the team for a non rookie: $70k per year.

- 5/11 are DPs
- 4/11 are TAM level (almost DP). Molino is one of these.
- 1/11 is a rookie ($62k per year)
- Joevin Jones


(https://i.redditmedia.com/7n5CevdcxeZSVkaXpXf3qLZlmClfKS2QYXJyT82K2zQ.png?w=934&s=3cdb4a85bc9b0fd11ee89133df852263)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on March 05, 2017, 09:40:22 PM
Joevin Jones, thy name is All-Star

So we had a pretty good inkling Joevin Jones was going to be in for a good year this preseason. He was probably the Sounders’ best player over the life of the 2017 preseason, and entering the regular season there were precious few left backs league-wide who could legitimately claim to be on better form. On Saturday, he proved those claims were no myth. This is the best Jones has ever looked.

Jones pumped in dangerous cross after dangerous cross on Saturday, and the majority of the Sounders’ best goal-bound opportunities were generated off his left flank. Ever since arriving in Seattle we’ve known Jones had the speed to push width and create danger on the overlap, but his one-on-one defending was often stressed to a breaking point due to his need to track back from such high positions. Considering he was up against the youthful Alberth Elis, one of the best offseason acquisitions in the league, Saturday’s matchup was of particular interest.

There was certainly a feeling-out period between the two in the first half, but Jones simply wore Elis down over the course of the match. By the time there were 20 minutes left, Elis was gassed and Jones looked like he was still fit enough to run a marathon. The Sounders’ back line was quality in the run of play all night, and Jones was its lodestar. But more than that, he ground a young, spry winger into dust.

We’ve known for some time Jones had all the potential in the world. It seems he’s getting dangerously close to realizing the whole lot of it.

http://www.soundersfc.com/post/2017/03/04/seattle-sounders-clint-dempsey-joevin-jones-houston-dynamo
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: SHOTTA on March 05, 2017, 11:57:45 PM
watched most of the game. He has that side locked down. im an advocate of playing both him and levi on that side at the start of the game against panama. i think that they will expose any shortcomings that are available. im hoping for a partnership much like spann and edwards had on the right side during the germany campaign
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Sando prince on March 16, 2017, 07:07:14 PM

Joevin draped in the 🇹🇹🇹🇹

http://tinyurl.com/l4kqooo
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on March 20, 2017, 05:12:29 AM
WATCH: Joevin Jones shows off a slick piece of skill by nutmegging a defender on the byline to help create a goal for Seattle Sounders against New York Red Bulls.

https://www.youtube.com/v/7mOFpW4ZHNw
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: g on March 20, 2017, 07:32:10 AM
Watched the game last night, the MLS starting to see the talent we knew for years and he is flourishing. Schmetzer has unleashed the chains and adjusted his tactics to give Joevin more freedom by tucking his midfielders in. He is emerging as integral to the Sounders attacking unit, bombing down the left and his teammates are recognizing him with consistent possession. Whether it be instructional or just his own confidence you are seeing more skill on the ball too, more dribbles which of course is a bit more risky but always in the attacking third so the chance of reward is good.

His conditioning is remarkable, he plays the full 90 at the same pace and at speed. Hopeful he could maintain form at club and international level for 2017.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on April 01, 2017, 02:50:33 PM
Joevin: Still everything to play for.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Joevin Jones has described this country’s 1-0 defeat to Mexico as “Unlucky” as he reflected on Tuesday’s 2018 World Cup qualifier in which his disallowed first half strike was a focal point.

Jones started both matches including the 1-0 victory over Panama and now while his focus returns to Seattle Sounders in American Major League Soccer, Jones is keeping a keen eye on T&T’s two qualifying matches on the road to United Stated and Costa Rica on June 8th and June 13th respectively.
“I think we just barely missed out on our mission to get six points or at least four from the two games,” Jones told TTFA Media on Saturday.

“Going into the games, I think we were under a bit of pressure because we know how badly we needed a result against Panama but the boys came up big and we got the win thanks to a goal by Kevin (Molino). I think the coach laid out his plans and the boys delivered. But the game was not easy because Panama were strong and they made us work hard for the win,” Jones said.

“Mexico was alway going to be tough because they are a powerhouse but we also knew that once we kept our focus and stuck to a game plan the new could match them. Looking back now I think we showed up well and we had them on the backfoot for some time. Unluckily for us, things didn’t go our way and I am disappointed because I feel we had a very good chance of coming away with points from the second game,” said the former W Connection man.

About the disallowed goal, Jones added: “What can I say, the referee made the call when the assistant raised his flag. At the time It felt onside but I also thought it was close but then after the match when I saw the video replays, I thought it was an unlucky call against us. Who knows how the game would have gone.

“But we have six games to go and everything to play for. Playing on the road in the next two games is going to be a challenge but I believe in the squad and the coaching staff and I think once we can keep our heads together and continue working hard then we can get some points on the road and set things up for our next set of games in Trinidad,” Jones said.

Jones (J) started for Seattle in Friday’s 0-0 draw with Atlanta United with Kenwyne Jones coming off the bench in the second half and almost stealing a late winner only for his attempt from inside the box to be blocked by a Seattle player.

Video - Extras - T&T vs Mexico (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZITQkXURw)

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on April 05, 2017, 04:45:47 AM
Jostling for Joevin!
TTFA Media.


T&T left back waits on new deal

Trinidad and Tobago’s Joevin Jones has become one of the most talked about defenders in American Major League Soccer at the moment.

According to a report on Seattle Sounders’ official website, “Joevin Jones’ performance since the beginning of the 2016 MLS Cup Playoffs has been nothing short of spectacular.”

The 25-year-old left back has five assists in his last eleven matches dating back to last season, including the game-winner in three of the last five Sounders wins prior to the two World Cup qualifiers for T&T in March.

“He’s the best left back in MLS,” said Sounders midfielder Cristian Roldan. “He’s that good. Joevin is unpredictable. You see it in Jordan [Morris’] goal where [Jones] ‘megs the guy and passes it to [Nicolas Lodeiro].”

Jones, a former player with W Connection, has a contract that ends in December but already there are a few clubs eying the T&T player. It is understood that clubs from the German Bundesliga, Spanish La Liga, the Mexican First Division and also another unnamed club in France have been keeping track of the 25-year-old player.

At the moment though, Jones’ future is still undecided as Seattle are yet to hold any talks regarding his possible future at the club. There were some Seattle fans in Port of Spain last week who came out to support Jones and the T&T team against Panama and Mexico and they were asking questions about his future, saying they would love for him to remain with the club past the current season.

T&T’s ESPN analyst Shaka Hislop spoke about Jones’ versatility on the field of play.

“Joevin plays different roles for T&T and the Seattle Sounders, which speaks of his versatility. But his deeper position for Seattle doesn’t tell the story of his importance for T&T. I have said many times in the past, and continue to believe, that Joevin is easily our most important player,a responsibility he readily accepts,” Hislop told TTFA Media.

The former Newcastle and West Ham United custodian went on to describe Jones as the modern day left back.

“Joevin is a modern day left back- very good going forward and very solid defensively. As Seattle continues to develop and build on the MLS Cup triumph it’s important that they recognize that championship teams maintain that all-over-the-field balance,” Hislop added.

His countryman Kevin Molino, currently wearing Minnesota United colours, said he wouldn’t mind playing on the same club side as Jones at some point in his career.

“Joevin Jones is a very special player in my eyes with unbelievable talent. To me any club in the world will love to have a player like that in their team,” Molino said.

“Joevin is a very important part of the Seattle and the Trinidad and Tobago team. In a 1 v 1 situation both in defence and attack he can get a job done. As an attacking player he is so special. I wish one day we can play with the same club,” Molino continued.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on April 05, 2017, 06:12:14 AM
This is really funny. Allyuh remember a few years ago, JJ went on trial with the Italian Sirie A team( can't remember the name). But he did not make it. I remember a video of him playing in the practice games on the thread. He was lambasted for his lack of ambition. His lackadaisical manner. He timid. Pro league product eh good. But at 26, allyuh  think verdict still out on him?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: chelsealife on April 05, 2017, 07:03:45 AM
This is really funny. Allyuh remember a few years ago, JJ went on trial with the Italian Sirie A team( can't remember the name). But he did not make it. I remember a video of him playing in the practice games on the thread. He was lambasted for his lack of ambition. His lackadaisical manner. He timid. Pro league product eh good. But at 26, allyuh  think verdict still out on him?
Udinese. And he was out of his depth that time, ball watching but he has improved a lot since then. The article states and unnamed club in France but also fails to name the other clubs. Non story unless they can back up this with names n quotes
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mose on April 05, 2017, 07:46:36 AM
This is really funny. Allyuh remember a few years ago, JJ went on trial with the Italian Sirie A team( can't remember the name). But he did not make it. I remember a video of him playing in the practice games on the thread. He was lambasted for his lack of ambition. His lackadaisical manner. He timid. Pro league product eh good. But at 26, allyuh  think verdict still out on him?

The verdict is still out because the problem wasn't lack of talent or lack of ability or lack of skill. Lack of confidence maybe. JJ has the ability to dominate a game if, and when, he decides to impose himself and that is what teams are noticing.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Sam on April 05, 2017, 08:27:06 AM
This is really funny. Allyuh remember a few years ago, JJ went on trial with the Italian Sirie A team( can't remember the name). But he did not make it. I remember a video of him playing in the practice games on the thread. He was lambasted for his lack of ambition. His lackadaisical manner. He timid. Pro league product eh good. But at 26, allyuh  think verdict still out on him?

Toronto FC didn't take him to and to be honest, they were right because at de time his confidence was low and he didn't show them his true ability, so you can blame them.

Joevin is a boss and his confidence is up he will improve even more. I find he still need to work consistently and he does tend to varnish for periods of his game.

Joevin was very shy to, nut now he coach in de MLS and Hart help him build that.

But all in all, de man is a baller.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on April 05, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
European clubs eye Joevin Jones.
T&T Newsday Reports.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Joevin Jones has become one of the most talked about defenders in American Major League Soccer at the moment.

According to a report on Seattle Sounders’ official website, “Joevin Jones’ performance since the beginning of the 2016 MLS Cup Playoffs has been nothing short of spectacular.”

The 25-year-old left back has five assists in his last eleven matches dating back to last season, including the game-winner in three of the last five Sounders wins prior to the two World Cup qualifiers for TT in March.

He also lashed in a screamer against Mexico in a World Cup qualifier on March 28 that was incorrectly ruled offside and was a constant thorn for the Mexicans with his pace and skill.

“He’s the best left back in MLS,” said Sounders midfielder Cristian Roldan. “He’s that good. Joevin is unpredictable. You see it in Jordan [Morris’] goal where [Jones] ‘megs’ the guy and passes it to [Nicolas Lodeiro].”

Jones, a former player with W Connection, has a contract that ends in December but already there are a few clubs eying the T&T player. It is understood that clubs from the German Bundesliga, Spanish La Liga, the Mexican First Division and also another unnamed club in France have been keeping track of the 25 year old. At the moment though, Jones’ future is still undecided as Seattle are yet to hold any talks regarding his possible future at the club.

There were some Seattle fans in Port of Spain last week who came out to support Jones and the TT team against Panama and Mexico and they were asking questions about his future, saying they would love for him to remain with the club past the current season.

Former national goalkeeper and current ESPN analyst Shaka Hislop spoke about Jones’ versatility on the field of play.

“Joevin plays different roles for TT and the Seattle Sounders, which speaks of his versatility.

But his deeper position for Seattle doesn’t tell the story of his importance for T&T. I have said many times in the past, and continue to believe, that Joevin is easily our most important player,a responsibility he readily accepts,” Hislop told TTFA Media.

The former Newcastle and West Ham United custodian went on to describe Jones as the modern day left back.

“Joevin is a modern day left back - very good going forward and very solid defensively. As Seattle continues to develop and build on the MLS Cup triumph, it’s important that they recognise that championship teams maintain that all-over-the-field balance,” Hislop added.

His countryman Kevin Molino, currently wearing Minnesota United colours, said he wouldn’t mind playing on the same club side as Jones at some point in his career.

“Joevin Jones is a very special player in my eyes with unbelievable talent. To me any club in the world will love to have a player.

RELATED NEWS

Jostlin’ for Joevin.
T&T Express Reports.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Joevin Jones has become one of the most talked about defenders in American Major League Soccer at the moment.

According to a report on Seattle Sounders’ official website, “Joevin Jones’ performance since the beginning of the 2016 MLS Cup Playoffs has been nothing short of spectacular.”

The 25-year-old left back has five assists in his last eleven matches dating back to last season, including the game-winner in three of the last five Sounders wins prior to the two World Cup qualifiers for T&T in March.

“He’s the best left back in MLS,” said Sounders midfielder Cristian Roldan. “He’s that good. Joevin is unpredictable. You see it in Jordan [Morris’] goal where [Jones] ‘megs the guy and passes it to [Nicolas Lodeiro].”

Jones, a former player with W Connection, has a contract that ends in December but already, there are a few clubs eyeing the T&T player. It is understood that clubs from the German Bundesliga, Spanish La Liga, the Mexican First Division and also another unnamed club in France have been keeping track of the 25-year-old player.

At the moment though, Jones’ future is still undecided as Seattle are yet to hold any talks regarding his possible future at the club. There were some Seattle fans in Port of Spain last week who came out to support Jones and the T&T team against Panama and Mexico and they were asking questions about his future, saying they would love for him to remain with the club past the current season.

T&T’s ESPN analyst Shaka Hislop spoke about Jones’ versatility on the field of play.

“Joevin plays different roles for T&T and the Seattle Sounders, which speaks of his versatility. But his deeper position for Seattle doesn’t tell the story of his importance for T&T. I have said many times in the past, and continue to believe, that Joevin is easily our most important player,a responsibility he readily accepts,” Hislop told TTFA Media.

The former Newcastle and West Ham United custodian went on to describe Jones as the modern day left back.

“Joevin is a modern day left back- very good going forward and very solid defensively. As Seattle continues to develop and build on the MLS Cup triumph, it’s important that they recognise that championship teams maintain that all-over-the-field balance,” Hislop added.

His countryman Kevin Molino, currently wearing Minnesota United colours, said he wouldn’t mind playing on the same club side as Jones at some point in his career.

“Joevin Jones is a very special player in my eyes with unbelievable talent. To me, any club in the world will love to have a player like that in their team,” Molino said.

“Joevin is a very important part of the Seattle and the Trinidad and Tobago team. In a one versus one situation both in defence and attack, he can get a job done. As an attacking player, he is so special. I wish one day we can play with the same club,” Molino continued.


Yuh mean to tell me, Newsday and the Express publish the exact, same article? Invisible hand ting.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mose on April 06, 2017, 08:26:43 AM
This is really funny. Allyuh remember a few years ago, JJ went on trial with the Italian Sirie A team( can't remember the name). But he did not make it. I remember a video of him playing in the practice games on the thread. He was lambasted for his lack of ambition. His lackadaisical manner. He timid. Pro league product eh good. But at 26, allyuh  think verdict still out on him?

Toronto FC didn't take him to and to be honest, they were right because at de time his confidence was low and he didn't show them his true ability, so you can blame them.

Joevin is a boss and his confidence is up he will improve even more. I find he still need to work consistently and he does tend to varnish for periods of his game.

Joevin was very shy to, nut now he coach in de MLS and Hart help him build that.

But all in all, de man is a baller.


They might have been right then but I'm sure they were kicking themselves after the MLS Cup final!  :beermug:
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on April 06, 2017, 08:51:01 AM
This is really funny. Allyuh remember a few years ago, JJ went on trial with the Italian Sirie A team( can't remember the name). But he did not make it. I remember a video of him playing in the practice games on the thread. He was lambasted for his lack of ambition. His lackadaisical manner. He timid. Pro league product eh good. But at 26, allyuh  think verdict still out on him?

Fact is, he wasn't ready then. Even at Chicago he was inconsistent, and during the first half of last season, Seattle fans were either singing his praises or lashing him hard. It's taken time for him to blossom into the player we all knew he could be.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: palos on April 06, 2017, 10:46:21 AM
This is really funny. Allyuh remember a few years ago, JJ went on trial with the Italian Sirie A team( can't remember the name). But he did not make it. I remember a video of him playing in the practice games on the thread. He was lambasted for his lack of ambition. His lackadaisical manner. He timid. Pro league product eh good. But at 26, allyuh  think verdict still out on him?

Fact is, he wasn't ready then. Even at Chicago he was inconsistent, and during the first half of last season, Seattle fans were either singing his praises or lashing him hard. It's taken time for him to blossom into the player we all knew he could be.

One thing is for sure in my mind.  Had he stayed in T&T....he wouldn't become that player we all knew he could be.

This is what happens with currently our most talented player....by some distance.  He had to leave, learn, adapt, and grow in a decent league to start realizing his potential

But some people want a local based squad to play WCQ's for us?  AND BE SUCCESSFUL

I read somewhere where someone said we have the best talent in CONCACAF.  I struggle to understand based on what?  And the poster appeared to be very serious.  That poster isn't alone.

Fot the life of me, I don't know where that sentiment comes from
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on April 06, 2017, 11:27:16 AM
This is really funny. Allyuh remember a few years ago, JJ went on trial with the Italian Sirie A team( can't remember the name). But he did not make it. I remember a video of him playing in the practice games on the thread. He was lambasted for his lack of ambition. His lackadaisical manner. He timid. Pro league product eh good. But at 26, allyuh  think verdict still out on him?

Fact is, he wasn't ready then. Even at Chicago he was inconsistent, and during the first half of last season, Seattle fans were either singing his praises or lashing him hard. It's taken time for him to blossom into the player we all knew he could be.

One thing is for sure in my mind.  Had he stayed in T&T....he wouldn't become that player we all knew he could be.

This is what happens with currently our most talented player....by some distance.  He had to leave, learn, adapt, and grow in a decent league to start realizing his potential

But some people want a local based squad to play WCQ's for us?

I read somewhere where someone said we have the best talent in CONCACAF.  I struggle to understand based on what?  And the poster appeared to be very serious.  That poster isn't alone.

Fot the life of me, I don't know where that sentiment comes from

d prez and all d pro league clubs been pushin dat head long time....whether is jus to put more players on d shop floor or genuine overestimation of our powers, dat sentiment as delusional as it may be, is very real, even among d local player themselves, what for me is scary is that the difference in tempo is obvious between d locals and foreign based, yet locals who aspire to national duty don't attempt to maintain and or encourage dat shift in tempo at their clubs......hell d club coaches should take note and be the first to up d tempo.....but den d prez is ah club owner and connection's ponderously plodding player still persist like d other clubs in d pro league.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: palos on April 06, 2017, 12:40:39 PM
d prez and all d pro league clubs been pushin dat head long time....whether is jus to put more players on d shop floor or genuine overestimation of our powers, dat sentiment as delusional as it may be, is very real, even among d local player themselves, what for me is scary is that the difference in tempo is obvious between d locals and foreign based, yet locals who aspire to national duty don't attempt to maintain and or encourage dat shift in tempo at their clubs......hell d club coaches should take note and be the first to up d tempo.....but den d prez is ah club owner and connection's ponderously plodding player still persist like d other clubs in d pro league.

Preach!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: palos on April 12, 2017, 11:04:42 AM
Joevin Jones and Seattle Sounders in Vancouver this Friday against the Whitecaps

Looking forward to seeing him in action
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on April 26, 2017, 09:44:16 AM
Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders): $96,166
The Trinidad and Tobago international might be the biggest steal in the league. He's turned himself into one of the best fullbacks around and helped Seattle capture MLS Cup a year ago. The only problem for the Sounders is his contract is running out and they may lose him to Europe for nothing, but they've got him on the cheap for now.

The 10 best bargains in MLS. (http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/gallery/mls-bargains-underpaid-players-salaries-042617)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Controversial on April 26, 2017, 10:05:28 AM
Needs to leave the mls
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on April 26, 2017, 12:31:06 PM
Needs to leave the mls
why ? when did he sign that contract ? when is he signing the next, with whom ?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: g on April 26, 2017, 03:03:05 PM
Needs to leave the mls
why ? when did he sign that contract ? when is he signing the next, with whom ?

Read somewhere that his contract runs till the end of the season so it will be an easy pick up for a club in the 2018 January transfer window.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: ffisback on April 26, 2017, 04:13:45 PM
Staying in a league were you are already the best is a waste of time especially at his age there is nothing more he can gain in this league.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on April 26, 2017, 04:51:36 PM
that might be true if the league was staying the same.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on April 26, 2017, 07:39:05 PM
Staying in a league were you are already the best is a waste of time especially at his age there is nothing more he can gain in this league.
so what is yuh suggestion for Lukaku ? buss it and go TT Pro League ? or Italy or Spain...to arse with non-contract
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Controversial on April 27, 2017, 10:55:59 AM
Staying in a league were you are already the best is a waste of time especially at his age there is nothing more he can gain in this league.
so what is yuh suggestion for Lukaku ? buss it and go TT Pro League ? or Italy or Spain...to arse with non-contract

Subtle oppression.. jones should be at a top flight club, I've seen average players playing at top clubs that makes you wonder sometimes how they got there, then you realize in the grand scheme of things, keeping the Caribbean players at a certain level, suits the agenda
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: trini_stallion on April 30, 2017, 05:17:30 PM
Joevin had 2 assists yesterday against New England Revolution
Title: For Sounders’ Joevin Jones, soccer was always a family affair
Post by: Tallman on May 01, 2017, 11:43:25 AM
For Sounders’ Joevin Jones, soccer was always a family affair
By Geoff Baker (Seattle Times)


For Joevin Jones, post-soccer match dinners at his family’s home in Trinidad and Tobago were less about eating than teachable moments.

From age 11 until well after his professional career began at 19, Jones, his younger brother Alvin, older brother Marvin and their parents would sit around the table dissecting their games. One by one, each offered some compliments, but most often criticism about areas of needed improvement.

“We used to watch one another’s games and say where we went wrong,’’ said Jones, 25, the Sounders’ left back now drawing raves for his two-way play. “What we needed to work on and stuff like that. And then, the next day, we’d go out to a field and work on things.’’

Throw in their father, Kelvin, being a famous former national-team member — part of the country’s legendary “Strike Squad” that barely missed qualifying for the 1990 World Cup — and the dinner critiques became pointed indeed. Even their mother, Merlin, a former netball player at the country’s highest level, wasn’t beyond a barb or two.

“She watched all of my games,’’ Jones said. “And if she didn’t like how I played, she would tell me straight up. I liked her for that. She’d tell me what I did wrong. If I didn’t have a good game, she’d tell me she wasted her time coming to watch me. Again, I liked her for that. Every time I play, I think about her.’’

Jones said his family had his best wishes at heart. The three brothers wanted to follow dad as pros — and eventually did — but both parents knew the sacrifices that entailed. And so, early mornings, his father would wake the boys at their hillside home in the fishing village of Carenage and take them training with him.

They’d head for the steep hills nearby for sprints to the top followed by a jog back down. Sometimes, they’d go to an open field to work on ball-control skills.

“He’d show us how to trap the ball,’’ Jones said. “How to screen the ball and stuff like that. They were simple drills growing up as a kid.’’

But nothing was simple when your dad was a household name, easily recognized by soccer-crazed fans on the street. The national team “Strike Squad” of 1989 had captured and broken the tiny country’s heart when — needing just a one-point draw to qualify for the 1990 World Cup in Italy — it lost 1-0 at home to the U.S.

It took another 17 years before Trinidad and Tobago reached its first World Cup. Nonetheless, the 1989 team galvanized the often divided, twin-island nation of 1.36 million inhabitants like never before, its players still celebrated as soccer folk heroes.

Being his father’s son, Jones was quickly targeted for success. He’d grown up watching favorite player Cristiano Ronaldo playing in Europe for Sporting Lisbon on a local TV channel. Rather than be jealous of Jones and his pedigree, local soccer hounds supported and pushed him to achieve bigger things like getting overseas to join Ronaldo in a top European league.

His father said a professional coach in Trinidad told him early on that Joevin had the soccer “intelligence” to play overseas if he harnessed his talent.

“I did things to help all of them,’’ said Kelvin Jones, 55, now retired from soccer and working as a police officer. “They wanted me to help make them better to reach their goals.’’

Even now, he adds, he’ll watch Sounders games on TV and phone his son right after.

“I also played left back,’’ he said. “And I used to score goals all the time. Sometimes, I’ll see him get inside the box and he tries to set the ball up for somebody else. I’ll tell him, ‘Shoot the ball! Take the bull by the horns.’ ’’

And Joevin Jones doesn’t mind the fatherly advice. After all, his older brother, Marvin, 36, went on to play professionally in Trinidad. So has younger brother Alvin, 22.

Joevin Jones had a pair of assists in the Sounders’ 3-3 draw against New England at CenturyLink Field on Saturday night.

Instead of feeling pressure following in his famous father’s footsteps, Jones accepted his destiny was to do bigger things. Some say it gave him a “chip” or “edge” to where his first pro contract at 19 with the local W Connection squad wasn’t good enough.

Five seasons later, it was on to a six-month loan to a club in Helsinki and then, his first Major League Soccer job with the Chicago Fire. Jones was traded to Seattle last year and by midsummer began demonstrating the rapid-fire transition game that helped lead the Sounders to their first MLS Cup championship.

Jones, with his speed, ball movement and powerful left-footed shot, is now quietly discussed as arguably the league’s best left back. And he won’t argue.

“In this league, I don’t think people rate me as high as where I should be,’’ Jones said.

But he said it’s good.

“Growing up, I always liked to be the underdog player,’’ he said.

Not that he really ever was. Somewhat of a class clown, whose mouth and pranks sometimes landed him in hot water, Jones excelled at sports. He feels he could have turned pro in cricket, but his soccer skills were too good.

His younger brother, Alvin, agrees their father’s critiques kept both from getting swelled heads.

“He would tell us all of our mistakes and then the good,’’ he said. “But he mostly used to dwell on the mistakes because he wanted us to correct it and be better players. But we never took it the wrong way.’’

And like their father, both brothers now play for the country’s “Soca Warriors’’ national side. Alvin said his MLS-playing brother is deliberately guarded, letting only close friends see his true prankster nature.

“You’ll be in the mall and he’ll push you into somebody and laugh about it,’’ he said. “In the grocery store, he’ll push his trolley into you.’’

Laughing, he adds: “It’s a good thing he’s serious with most people because the kind of stuff he’ll do, you’d want to get back at him. But if you know him, you just have to laugh.’’

In Seattle, Jones keeps a low public profile, preferring outings at the Woodland Park Zoo, a mall or a park with his family — consisting of his girlfriend, Sade, and her three children. They met three years ago in Trinidad and the children “are like my own.’’

But whether they’ll stay here is a different matter. Jones feels he’s close to a crack at Europe and plans to “work harder’’ at maintaining the consistency to get there.

“I think I have a good chance now to play in one of those leagues,’’ he said. “To test my strengths and weaknesses and see where I am as a player now and whether I can get to the highest level.’’

No knock at MLS, he said. It’s just about fulfilling that destiny long expected. A destiny that could see him finally excused from the family dinner table.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: palos on May 01, 2017, 06:45:43 PM
Nice article there  :beermug:
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 01, 2017, 08:05:06 PM
Nice article there  :beermug:

Ent. Nary a mention of sea spray. May it long continue.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on May 01, 2017, 09:14:53 PM
WATCH: Seattle Sounders FC defender Joevin Jones discusses playing for Trinidad and Tobago, his ever-changing hairstyles and his admiration for Sounders Head Coach Brian Schmetzer.

https://www.youtube.com/v/SD4ixPJDsvc
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on May 02, 2017, 05:18:56 PM
I think the Dutch league is a good fit for joevin. same position with overlapping runs except much stiffer competition on both ends of the pitch: to try to run past as well as to defend against. much better pace, technically sound, atmosphere etc. a short term contract for him to grow into a starting spot in a bigger league - instead of going to a league where you out of your depth and seeing a steady dose of bench, or the ubiquitous "unused sub" on the trinis in action threads.  [As a side note: I lamenting how Levi talent laying dormant on a bench till he not even coming on for us for lack of match fitness. We don't have the luxury of not harnessing to maximum his talent].
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: palos on May 03, 2017, 11:42:12 AM
Staying in a league were you are already the best is a waste of time especially at his age there is nothing more he can gain in this league.

He just establishing himself in the league.  Jeez!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on May 04, 2017, 08:18:19 AM
Staying in a league were you are already the best is a waste of time especially at his age there is nothing more he can gain in this league.

He just establishing himself in the league.  Jeez!

If he is already recognized as one of the best in the league, what else does he have to establish? Given his age and contract situation this is the time to make a move.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on May 04, 2017, 11:43:37 AM
Staying in a league were you are already the best is a waste of time especially at his age there is nothing more he can gain in this league.

He just establishing himself in the league.  Jeez!

If he is already recognized as one of the best in the league, what else does he have to establish? Given his age and contract situation this is the time to make a move.
and how does one do that ? Call Henderson Shipping Services and have them pack his things and move them to Manchester ?run on the field while a match going on and show them his skills ? how ?  ::)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 04, 2017, 01:37:07 PM
Staying in a league were you are already the best is a waste of time especially at his age there is nothing more he can gain in this league.

He just establishing himself in the league.  Jeez!

If he is already recognized as one of the best in the league, what else does he have to establish? Given his age and contract situation this is the time to make a move.
and how does one do that ? Call Henderson Shipping Services and have them pack his things and move them to Manchester ?run on the field while a match going on and show them his skills ? how ?  ::)
:rotfl:
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on May 04, 2017, 03:49:22 PM
Staying in a league were you are already the best is a waste of time especially at his age there is nothing more he can gain in this league.

He just establishing himself in the league.  Jeez!

If he is already recognized as one of the best in the league, what else does he have to establish? Given his age and contract situation this is the time to make a move.
and how does one do that ? Call Henderson Shipping Services and have them pack his things and move them to Manchester ?run on the field while a match going on and show them his skills ? how ?  ::)
:rotfl:


ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rotfl: :laugh:
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on May 04, 2017, 05:42:57 PM
Staying in a league were you are already the best is a waste of time especially at his age there is nothing more he can gain in this league.

He just establishing himself in the league.  Jeez!

If he is already recognized as one of the best in the league, what else does he have to establish? Given his age and contract situation this is the time to make a move.
and how does one do that ? Call Henderson Shipping Services and have them pack his things and move them to Manchester ?run on the field while a match going on and show them his skills ? how ?  ::)
:rotfl:


ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rotfl: :laugh:

The usual ways I guess.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: DeSoWa on May 09, 2017, 03:58:44 PM
Sounders defender Joevin as early Fullback of the Year.
SoundersFC.com Staff


Seattle Sounders left back Joevin Jones has been in the form of his life recently and is showing no signs of stopping.

As we head into Week 11 of the MLS season, MLSSoccer.com’s Armchair Analyst Matt Doyle has crowned Jones the Fullback of the Year so far. The Trinidadian international is second in the league in assists with five and has been as instrumental a part of the Sounders’ offense as he has defensively, shutting down opposing attackers with a 1-v-1 skill that few of his counterparts can rival.

“Jones has been the brightest light in an otherwise sluggish start to the season for Seattle,” wrote Doyle. “He gets forward with abandon, has become an above average defender, and his five assists are one behind the league leaders. By my (unofficial) count, no defender's ever had more than eight in a season.”

You can check out the full award list and Best XI here (https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/05/09/armchair-analyst-best-xi-awards-more-seasons-first-quarter).


https://www.soundersfc.com/post/2017/05/09/mls-names-seattle-sounders-defender-joevin-jones-early-fullback-year

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on May 09, 2017, 10:28:04 PM
Early full back of the year?  Doh blight the man, nah!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on May 12, 2017, 07:58:01 PM
Former Fire defender Joevin Jones preparing for first visit back to Chicago with the Seattle Sounders
By Ryan Krasnoo (SoundersFC.com)


Before Seattle Sounders defender Joevin Jones won an MLS Cup, was third in Major League Soccer in assists in 2017 and has firmly implemented himself as arguably the league’s best fullback, he plied his trade in Chicago.

On Saturday, when the Sounders visit Toyota Park to take on the Fire (6 p.m. PT; ESPN2, ESPN Deportes, KIRO Radio 97.3 FM, El Rey 1360AM), Jones will return for the first time.

“It’s always a pleasure to play against your old side,” Jones said on Thursday. “I have nothing to prove, I’m just coming to play my normal game…I have some good memories here, it’s always great to see my ex-teammates.”

Jones and Sounders midfielder Harry Shipp were teammates in Chicago in 2015 before Chicago traded both away following that season. Shipp went to the Montreal Impact while the Sounders traded their first-round pick in the 2016 MLS SuperDraft for Jones.

It was’t that Jones wasn’t effective in Chicago — he started 26 games and had one goal and one assists after joining the Fire from Finland’s HJK Helsinki — but the Trinidadian international has truly upped his game in his year-plus in Seattle and continues to flourish.

“I’ve developed more in Seattle,” Jones said. “[It’s] the players around me. They’ve helped me grow and become a better player.”

The most pressing task at hand for Jones is leading his new team into his old team’s building, a place where they have yet to lose this season, and earning a result. This will be Seattle’s first road match since routing the LA Galaxy 3-0 on April 23 and the Sounders are hoping to replicate that success.

“Every game I’m looking to have an impact,” said Jones, “but my main goal is to play well and make sure the team wins.”
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on May 24, 2017, 03:40:09 PM
WATCH: MLSsoccer.com's Armchair Analyst Matt Doyle looks at how Joevin Jones and other fullbacks in MLS are starting to become more integral parts of the attack. (https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/05/24/joevin-jones-leading-mls-fullback-revolution-analysts-den)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on June 26, 2017, 07:26:41 AM
WATCH: Joevin Jones scores his first goal of the season in Seattle Sounders FC’s 2-2 draw with Portland Timbers

https://www.youtube.com/v/YiGwyAI-zLE?start=65
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on July 05, 2017, 09:53:42 AM
WATCH: Joevin Jones with his sixth assist of the season in Seattle Sounders FC's 3-1 win over Colorado Rapids

https://www.youtube.com/v/g2XSpLy5OM8
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on July 05, 2017, 03:01:37 PM
That last goal by Dempsey is just great. A real striker. Take a half chance and golaso!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on July 20, 2017, 09:54:38 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones provides an inch-perfect cross to start Seattle Sounders FC’s come-from-behind 4-3 win over DC United.

https://www.youtube.com/v/3Pm4Bp4h8eM

WATCH: Joevin Jones serves up a delicious cross with the outside of his left boot to provide his second assist of the night in Seattle Sounders FC’s come-from-behind 4-3 win over DC United. He now has a team-leading eight assists for the season.

https://www.youtube.com/v/0ce_LKmhSC4
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 21, 2017, 09:22:29 AM
JJ performing like ah boss
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Cocorite on July 21, 2017, 01:08:38 PM
Yuh could see his confidence with those passes. That's the way we need all our players to perform
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on July 21, 2017, 03:19:19 PM
Tallman you have the order of the goals mixed up. The one when Jones passed with the outside of his foot was his second assist.

Nice passes by Jones
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on July 21, 2017, 03:58:52 PM
Tallman you have the order of the goals mixed up. The one when Jones passed with the outside of his foot was his second assist.

Thanks. Ah fix it.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on July 21, 2017, 04:20:36 PM
this fella need to renegotiate he contract :cursing:......worth way more than 90k ah year
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on July 24, 2017, 11:11:07 AM
WATCH: Joevin Jones provides his ninth assist of the season (https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/07/24/goal-kelvin-leerdam-scores-easy-tap-his-first-mls-goal?autoplay=true). Three in the last two games. This is the most by a defender in the MLS since 2003.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: MEP on July 24, 2017, 12:38:07 PM
that pass was sublime but those commentators will never recognize that ...will only talk about Brad Evans
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on July 24, 2017, 03:53:45 PM
This not our football league.
Title: Joevin Jones providing assists at a record pace | Who's the Best?
Post by: Tallman on July 27, 2017, 06:37:39 PM
Joevin Jones providing assists at a record pace | Who's the Best?
By Andrew Winner (MLSsoccer.com)


(http://www.socawarriors.net/images/stories/jones_joevin_2017_audi_player_index.jpg)

The angle was small; the ball’s flight path to the attacker, almost non-existent. Nevertheless, Seattle’s Joevin Jones saw the opening and managed to fade in a cross with the outside of his left foot.

The result? A Brad Evans goal and a Jones assist -- the latter becoming quite commonplace in 2017.

That assist -- coming in last Wednesday’s 4-3 victory over D.C. United -- was Jones’ second of the match and part of a three-assist week for the Trinidadian. Seattle’s left back has now tallied nine assists on the season, just one behind the trio of league leaders in that statistical category.

How rare is that? Well, the Sounders Twitter account reports that it’s the most assists by a defender* since 2003 (San Jose’s Brian Mullan).

It also sets Jones on a path to be one of the most prolific attacking defenders in league history.

(*Since players often play different positions, there’s no definitive measure of the most assists by a defender in league history. For example, Mullan often played as a midfielder in 2003 and even Jones has occasionally been deployed as a midfielder in 2017, making reliable measurement of the stat a challenge.)

We looked at the Audi Player Index numbers to find out how Jones’ season compares to defenders across the league.

What we learned was that Jones finds success by camping out in the opponent’s territory. The 25-year-old leads among all defenders in successful passing in the opposition's half and successful passing in final third.

He is also second in the league amongst defenders in two categories: take-ons won and corners won.

Jones generally plays as the left back in Seattle’s four-man backline. However, as this network passing graph from Sunday's 3-0 win against the San Jose Earthquakes shows, he plays in a more advanced role when he plays as a midfielder. His average position has him ahead of everyone on the team, save target forward Will Bruin. (Jones wears No. 33; Bruin is No. 17.)

(http://www.socawarriors.net/images/stories/seattle_sounders_vs_san_jose_earthquakes_pass_chart_2017-07-23.png)

Each number represents the location of the corresponding player's aggregate touch, while the thickness of the lines connecting them represents the volume of passes exchanged.

An advanced role is not new to Jones -- his country regularly uses him as a midfielder. It appears that Sounders coach Brian Schmetzer has also given him license to roam forward and pick out final balls. Jones has rewarded that confidence with his gaudy assists total.

The results have the Sounders surging in July. We’ll see if Jones can keep it going on Saturday night against an LA Galaxy backline that has struggled with injury and inconsistency at times this season (10 pm ET, ESPN, MLS LIVE).
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: trini_stallion on July 28, 2017, 06:36:41 AM
Man contract ending in December...no renewal talks? I wonder what teams scouting this talented baller!? He will be great in any league he goes too! Best player in the team as of now!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on July 30, 2017, 12:19:43 PM
I'm seeing reports of Joevin signing with darmstadt in Germany. Anybody can confirm?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: royal on July 30, 2017, 12:34:18 PM
I'm seeing reports of Joevin signing with darmstadt in Germany. Anybody can confirm?

https://www.sv98.de/home/
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Controversial on July 30, 2017, 12:48:23 PM
Lasana just confirmed he's going to 2nd div with the chance to play in the bundeliga with a promotion of the club

 I mentioned in an earlier post months ago about German teams having an eye on him
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on July 30, 2017, 12:56:22 PM
Dem fellas not givin Contro he dues
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.sounderatheart.com/platform/amp/2017/7/30/16065586/joevin-jones-darmstadt-germany

Joevin Jones will join German club in January.
By Jeremiah Oshan (sounderatheart).


Sounders left back will finish this season before joining Darmstadt.

For months, rumors have been circulating about interest overseas in Joevin Jones’ services. There was more truth to them than many of us thought.

Jones has signed a pre-contract with 2. Bundesliga side SV Darmstadt 98, the club announced on Sunday. Jones will apparently finish out this season with the Sounders and join Darmstadt in January, likely on a free transfer. It had previously been reported that this was the final year of Jones’ contract. As long as the Sounders made a “bonafide” offer, they’d at least retain the 25-year-old’s rights if he were to return to MLS.

“It is a big step in my career, which I absolutely want to use,” Jones said in a team release.

SV Darmstadt 98 is managed by German national team legend Torsten Frings, who also played parts of two seasons with Toronto FC. He was hired about midway through last season, taking over Darmstadt when they were at the bottom of the Bundesliga table. He was unable to keep them from relegation. Darmstadt had ended a 33-year run outside of the top flight when they earned promotion ahead of the 2015-16 season.

"We are very happy that Joevin has chosen the Lilies,” Frings said in a team release. “He was an absolute favorite of us, who we would rather have in our team today than tomorrow and will help us immediately after his arrival.”

Jones is in the midst of what is shaping up as a record-breaking season for a MLS defender. He currently has nine assists, as many as any player listed as a defender since Diego Gutierrez logged 13 for the Chicago Fire in 2000.

Although it will be near impossible to replace his production, Nouhou’s recent rise at least gives the Sounders a reasonable analog. The 20-year-old Cameroonian has been among the biggest surprises this year, logging 455 minutes, including his fourth start of the season on Saturday against the LA Galaxy.

RELATED NEWS

Joevin signs with SV Darmstadt 98 in German Bundesliga 2
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Joevin Jones has signed with German Bundesliga 2 club SV Darmstadt 98 until June 2020. The deal was confirmed on Sunday by way of an announcement by the club. He will join the club on a free transfer in January after signing a pre-contract with Darmstadt.

The 25-year-old former W Connection player will move from American Major League Soccer club Seattle Sounders, after arriving in MLS Soccer in December 2014 for his first signing with Chicago Fire.

“This is a big step for me, to move to Darmstadt 98 and to enter German football after the last two and a half years in the American MLS. I am very happy for the chance to prove myself at Darmstadt and I cannot wait to start with the club and help them achieve great things” Jones told TTFA Media on Sunday.

“I would like to thank everyone who has been there for me. I have had a solid and a half two years in the MLS which I have enjoyed and I would like to thank everyone at Seattle Sounders, my teammates and the fans who have supported me.

“Now I am looking ahead to moving onto another chapter in my career and I am looking forward to achieving great things with Darmstadt,” Jones added.

The club manager Torsten Frings stated: “We are very pleased that Joevin has decided to join us.  He is an absolutely dream player and a player that we really wanted to have rather today than tomorrow. We trust him to pick up on his performances in the Major League Soccer and we are  sure he is going to help us as soon as he is at Darmstadt.”

Frings is a former midfielder with Bayern Munich and played 79 matches for the German National Team.

At Darmstadt Jones will join American Terrence Boyd. Also at Darmstadt is former Turkish international and ex-Real Madrid and Bayern Munich midfielder Hamit Altıntop, Polish international Artur Sobiech, Slovenia international Roman Bxzjak and Australian international Jamie Maclaren.

SV Darmstadt were promoted to the German Bundelisga for the 2015-2016 season but were relegated to Bundelisga 2  after losing 1-0 to Bayern Munich on the 32nd matchday last season.

Jones is in the midst of what is shaping up as a record-breaking season for a MLS defender. He currently has nine assists, as many as any player listed as a defender since Diego Gutierrez logged 13 for the Chicago Fire in 2000.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Controversial on July 30, 2017, 01:34:01 PM
Dem fellas not givin Contro he dues
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.sounderatheart.com/platform/amp/2017/7/30/16065586/joevin-jones-darmstadt-germany

Don't need dues or credit brother

Men was saying me and palos out of we mind and jones too old lol goes to show what little people know about our own players and their potential
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: trini_stallion on July 30, 2017, 01:37:52 PM
Lovely lovely!!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on July 30, 2017, 03:04:15 PM
Good for JJ
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on July 30, 2017, 09:57:01 PM
Congrats to de man. Fly de flag and show dem some moves. Doh lose that tenacity.

IMO top flight clubs in France Germany Italy and Spain missed out on a good wing player. With him being in the dregs of his contract they should have been lookin to sign him up on a free. Hopefully his new club gets promoted.
Now I hadda go serching for bundes 2 streams
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on July 31, 2017, 05:58:05 PM
WATCH: Seattle Sounders Head Coach Brian Schmetzer talks about Joevin Jones signing with SV Darmstadt 98

https://www.youtube.com/v/91_js8J_Aso?start=410
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on July 31, 2017, 06:39:37 PM
Lagerwey confirmed that Jones would be moving on, saying that it was something the club suspected would happen when he was traded to Seattle from the Chicago Fire. “This was a risk when we traded for him. If you go back to that time, it was surprising that he was available. One of the reasons was that he didn’t have a long-term contract with the league.” He said that when the club signed Jones, they were signing a player that they wanted to help them win an MLS Cup in the short term, because they knew they couldn’t hold onto him for long. “When we signed Joevin, we were comfortable with, potentially, an 18-month engagement because he could help us win a title. He did that. We’ve had return on that investment.”

While fans may be upset about Jones’ departure, it sounds like the club did just about everything they could to get him to stay. “I will say we made a significant offer to retain him. It wasn’t for lack of resources or anything like that. It was his choice and he wanted to go, and he went.” Lagerwey said it’s an important part of the club’s ethos to allow players to make their own decisions and help cement the club’s reputation on the global transfer market. “I think we have a pretty sterling reputation with honoring our players’ wishes and being a participant in the international marketplace.” He noted that even though it can be tough to see a good player leave, having their players do well in Europe and elsewhere can only be a boost to the club’s reputation.

https://www.sounderatheart.com/2017/7/31/16072376/garth-lagerwey-victor-rodriguez-negotiation-joevin-jones-january-departure
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on July 31, 2017, 06:53:51 PM
Congrats, Good Luck and Blessings!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 31, 2017, 07:25:08 PM
Big respek Joevin!  Do your thing
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 01, 2017, 08:04:33 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/mls-power-rankings-week-21-180823818.html

Allyuh realize with all the superlatives given to Joevin, he did not make the MLS  AllStar team to play Real Madrid tomorow.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Jefferz on August 01, 2017, 08:26:47 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/mls-power-rankings-week-21-180823818.html

Allyuh realize with all the superlatives given to Joevin, he did not make the MLS  AllStar team to play Real Madrid tomorow.

I was just studying how f**king ridiculous it is that they blank BOTH Jones & Molino. Kevin has 5 goals and 7 assists, Joevin has 2 goals and 9 assists. Both of them are amongst the most successful in passing, creating chances, successful dribbles etc, and they get blank. Honestly, f**k the MLS.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on August 01, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/mls-power-rankings-week-21-180823818.html

Allyuh realize with all the superlatives given to Joevin, he did not make the MLS  AllStar team to play Real Madrid tomorow.

dais american culture.....fame and/or (nationalist bias)trumps substance every time
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 01, 2017, 08:43:00 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/mls-power-rankings-week-21-180823818.html

Allyuh realize with all the superlatives given to Joevin, he did not make the MLS  AllStar team to play Real Madrid tomorow.

I was just studying how f**king ridiculous it is that they blank BOTH Jones & Molino. Kevin has 5 goals and 7 assists, Joevin has 2 goals and 9 assists. Both of them are amongst the most successful in passing, creating chances, successful dribbles etc, and they get blank. Honestly, f**k the MLS.

Breds, as long as the play, score and their teams win, that is all that matters.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: FF on August 02, 2017, 05:26:33 AM
Guys the MLS all star team is mostly picked by fan votes. It will always be the superstar names and American brand name players
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: g on August 05, 2017, 06:11:11 PM
anybody have a link for Seattle vs Minnesota tonight?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on August 06, 2017, 11:20:12 AM
I believe Jones got another assist last night. Molino had a good chance he should have put on target.
Seattle duss dem out boy, and I read they will play each other again soon
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 06, 2017, 01:41:18 PM
I believe Jones got another assist last night. Molino had a good chance he should have put on target.
Seattle duss dem out boy, and I read they will play each other again soon

WATCH: Joevin Jones with his 10th assist of the season (https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/08/05/goal-clint-dempsey-fires-shot-bottom-corner?autoplay=true) in Seattle Sounders FC 4-0 win over Minnesota United.
Title: Joevin Jones leaves Sounders without authorization
Post by: Tallman on August 22, 2017, 12:48:44 PM
Joevin Jones leaves Sounders without authorization to play for Trinidad and Tobago in World Cup qualifiers
By Geoff Baker (Seattle Times)


The Sounders had planned to release Jones for the qualifiers next week, after the Portland game, but he instead flew back to his native Trinidad on Monday and informed a coach via text message afterward. Sounders general manager Garth Lagerwey on Tuesday confirmed that: “Joevin has left the team for personal reasons, and he’ll be joining the national team down in Trinidad.”

But Lagerwey declined further comment, including whether Jones had authorization to leave or if he would be disciplined for departing early. Jones plans to play for Trinidad in a “friendly” tune-up math against Jamaica on Thursday. The Sounders could block him from doing so, but that’s unlikely given his already tenuous situation with them — having signed a deal to play with a German second division side next season.

A player walking out on his team would be a huge deal in other major North American professional sports, but it’s not uncommon in international soccer. In the case of Jones, 25, who declined long-term contract offers from the Sounders before signing to play with SV Darmstadt starting next January, this could be an attempt to force an early release from his contract.

The international transfer window closes Sept. 1, and Jones would be able to play for the German side several months early if the Sounders release him. But that seems unlikely, given the talent level Jones brings to a first-place Sounders side hoping to make a run at a second consecutive MLS Cup title.

Jones is considered one of the top left backs in Major League Soccer, and his presence on the team would almost certainly improve the Sounders’ odds of repeating as champions more so than releasing him would. Though Nouhou has greatly impressed the team during his limited playing time, he remains an untested commodity at playoff time compared with the more-seasoned Jones.

Another factor the team undoubtedly will weigh is how Jones bolting before a pair of huge Western Conference games will play in his own dressing room. Players apparently were informed Tuesday about the early departure before taking to the field for practice in Tukwila.

It’s also possible Jones might not return to the Sounders, but that seems doubtful given he’d cease earning his relatively low, sub-six-figure MLS salary and be sidelined from action for several months.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Cocorite on August 22, 2017, 01:07:25 PM
Lots of speculatory writing from Geoff. Seems like he wants to create issues for Jones as Jones refuses to sign a long term contract with Sounders. . . .

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: pull stones on August 22, 2017, 01:34:46 PM
Lots of speculatory writing from Geoff. Seems like he wants to create issues for Jones as Jones refuses to sign a long term contract with Sounders. . . .
maybe not. keep in mind the yankee media are not like our local tabloids.......they actually have good inside sources feeding them proper info knowing fully well that one fallible article could end in a law suit.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: g on August 22, 2017, 01:39:37 PM
lol, the man just bail out and send a text yes.

This rounds me ain't care bout Seattle, the last two set of qualifiers in March and June Seattle played on the Sunday night and with the amount of travel involved to get into camp he was below his best and couldn't play the full 90 being subbed in every game.

I'm happy to have him early and settled in camp. Other players can't pull this move and even if they block the JA game he will at least be here.

Warriors time is now.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: pull stones on August 22, 2017, 02:11:43 PM
lol, the man just bail out and send a text yes.

This rounds me ain't care bout Seattle, the last two set of qualifiers in March and June Seattle played on the Sunday night and with the amount of travel involved to get into camp he was below his best and couldn't play the full 90 being subbed in every game.

I'm happy to have him early and settled in camp. Other players can't pull this move and even if they block the JA game he will at least be here.

Warriors time is now.
still a bad move no matter how you slice it and dice it. hopefully he got early permission from his coach and none of this is true but that is only wishful thinking on my path. if the article is factual then Jovin did himself no favors and may find himself falling out of favor with the coach and in even more of a hostile environment with his teammates and the fans come september.

these young players need to realize that these coaches have what it takes to destroy their careers and should play by the book/rules. Jovin needs to be careful he's not out the woods just yet.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Trini _2026 on August 22, 2017, 02:46:10 PM
D Lawrence should not select Jones for this game he cannot encourage this  lack of discipline ...
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Thomo on August 22, 2017, 03:08:24 PM
Sounds like a load of speculation from the reporter
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 22, 2017, 04:10:43 PM
WATCH: Seattle Sounders FC GM & President of Soccer Garth Lagerwey speaks to the media on Joevin Jones' situation

https://www.youtube.com/v/ODOsbqCgTg0
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: DeSoWa on August 23, 2017, 01:27:57 PM
None issue, just media trying to create unnecessary hype. This would be handled internally and I don't think Joevin has anything to worry about. If he plays tomorrow, then he was given the go ahead by Sounders to play.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 23, 2017, 01:53:40 PM
None issue, just media trying to create unnecessary hype. This would be handled internally and I don't think Joevin has anything to worry about. If he plays tomorrow, then he was given the go ahead by Sounders to play.

But why didn't the GM just refute the story and say they gave him permission to leave? The "personal reasons" thing sound jokey.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: benedicts bwoy on August 23, 2017, 02:46:17 PM
All yuh remember when the USMNT had World Cup games, the MSL release players early but kept their other international players for the mandatory time. Maybe Joevin saying well if they can do that, lemme see how best I can help my NT!

Just saying nah.............
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Cocorite on August 23, 2017, 02:49:42 PM
Smells of sour lemons because Jones didn't want to re-sign with them. Been living here too long. Know how these people think and operate. They will pay the Caribbean boy peanuts, exploit him, then when he wants to leave for greener pastures, destroy his chances.

I can't imagine Jones is that irresponsible to just ups and leave like that. . .I'm willing to hear his take on the whole thing.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: DeSoWa on August 24, 2017, 11:07:14 AM
None issue, just media trying to create unnecessary hype. This would be handled internally and I don't think Joevin has anything to worry about. If he plays tomorrow, then he was given the go ahead by Sounders to play.

But why didn't the GM just refute the story and say they gave him permission to leave? The "personal reasons" thing sound jokey.

Well the GM priority is the Sounders, so I am sure he wanted Joevin to stay for the 2 rivalry games, but I am sensing Jones told them he wanted to go help his national team, hence the "personal reasons" remake and they allowed him to leave. I hardly think Joevin "walked out" on the team.

Title: What is going on with Joevin Jones’ Sounders future?
Post by: Tallman on August 24, 2017, 03:29:38 PM
What is going on with Joevin Jones’ Sounders future?
By Jeremiah Oshan (sounderatheart.com)


The dust is still very much settling around the revelation that Joevin Jones had unexpectedly skipped town in order to join the Trinidad & Tobago national team a full week ahead of the FIFA international break. While we still don’t know how this is going to shake out or what, exactly, Jones was trying to accomplish, we now have a better picture of what the potential outcomes are.

So let’s break out our handy question-and-answer format to see if we can’t help you understand it as well.

How about we start with a quick recap?
Sometime after playing 90 minutes in the Seattle Sounders’ win over Minnesota United, Jones got on a plane headed for Trinidad, where the national team was opening camp ahead of a Thursday friendly against Jamaica. That will serve as a tune up for a pair of World Cup qualifiers against Honduras and Panama the following week.

The Sounders were apparently unaware of Jones’ decision until he texted a coach and informed the team he’ll be missing this week’s Cascadia Cup games against the Vancouver Whitecaps and Portland Timbers.

That, uh, doesn’t seem normal...
It’s not! While it’s entirely possible other players have pulled such shenanigans over the years, this is the first time we’ve known about anyone with the Sounders taking this sort of unexcused absence.

What can the Sounders do?
In theory, they could block Jones from playing in the Jamaica friendly since it’s outside the FIFA window. They aren’t going to do that, though, and based on conversations I’ve had, they didn’t really even seriously consider that possibility.

Is Jones just going to play in the game then?
That’s still unclear, although I suspect not. There’s no real upside to him playing in a friendly like this and he wasn’t among the 21 players the Soca Warriors listed as eligible for the game. It’s entirely possible he’ll elect to skip the game and focus on the upcoming qualifiers.

What happens after the international break?
Now we’re getting to the meat of the issue, which is also the hardest to predict. There’s a complicating factor to all of this and it’s that Jones has already signed a pre-contract with 2. Bundesliga team Darmstadt, which is supposed to start in January after his current deal with the Sounders expires. He’s due a significant raise on his current bargain-basement salary of $96,000 and there’s speculation that he’d prefer to start that contract sooner than later.

What’s leading to that speculation?
To be clear, neither Jones nor anyone from his camp have made any public statements about forcing his way out. I’m also unaware of anyone in the Sounders even being told of such a private threat. That possibility is mostly born out of people like myself drawing what seems to be a plausible connection. It’s entirely possible that Jones’ contract status and his decision to take an unexcused absence aren’t related.

What if they are related?
For the sake of discussion, let’s assume Jones is trying to force the Sounders’ hand and let him join Darmstadt before the German transfer window closes at the end of business on Aug. 31. The simple solution would be for Darmstadt and the Sounders to agree on a fair transfer fee, clearing Jones to switch teams.

Why hasn’t that happened?
Darmstadt isn’t exactly a big spending team, having spent about €1.2 million on transfer fees this year. Surely, one of the attractive things about Jones was that he was available on a free in the winter. While it’s entirely possible they had previously made an offer to the Sounders to get Jones earlier, there have been no such reports. Maybe this whole incident has weakened the Sounders’ resolve about keeping Jones enough that Darmstadt could make weight with a cut-rate offer. That just doesn’t seem particularly likely at this point.

Where does that leave us?
It’s at least possible the Sounders could basically release Jones and let him go on his merry way, simply in a show of good faith. If he really doesn’t want to be here, the thinking could go, why force him to be? That, too, doesn’t seem particularly likely. Jones is still the best offensive fullback in the league, and even if he’s not 100 percent happy, the Sounders would probably like to have him around. By all accounts, head coach Brian Schmetzer has a good relationship with Jones and he’s probably confident he can make the situation work.

How do you see this playing out?
Given that this entire situation seems to have caught everyone but Jones by surprise, I wouldn’t entirely rule out any of these possibilities. That said, the most likely outcome is usually the one that is the simplest. For Jones to leave, it means several actors making some very hard decisions. That leads me to believe that when the dust all settles, Jones will return to the Sounders. If Nouhou keeps playing the way he has, Jones may not automatically reclaim his starting spot, but my suspicion is we’ve not yet seen the end of his Sounders career.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: congo on August 24, 2017, 04:04:46 PM
I seriously think that it's time that FIFA reign in the MLS and their weird transfer fee and contract structures etc to put them more in line with the rest of the world. Not sure how the draft etc works but it just seems  more complicated than it should be. Just attached fees to people and buy/sell as normal based on market expectations and contract value. It's not rocket science.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Thomo on August 25, 2017, 02:30:45 PM
Moving on from the reporter trying to stir s**t up, it seems like SV Darmstadt 98 are trying to engineer a faster route for Joevin to join up with them. Seattle clearly knows what's happening and are playing coy. Darmstadt's aim is an immediate return to the Bundesliga and they're 1st in the Bundesliga-2 at present so they need him now rather than year end to set the pace in the league and for him to get acclimatise.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 25, 2017, 04:17:23 PM
Moving on from the reporter trying to stir s**t up, it seems like SV Darmstadt 98 are trying to engineer a faster route for Joevin to join up with them. Seattle clearly knows what's happening and are playing coy. Darmstadt's aim is an immediate return to the Bundesliga and they're 1st in the Bundesliga-2 at present so they need him now rather than year end to set the pace in the league and for him to get acclimatise.

Danny Rose. Leighton Baines. Andre Ayew. Ashley Young. Ademola Lookman. Kazenga LuaLua. Joevin Jones.

They all have a few things in common. Guess which one is the most significant thing in common for present purposes.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: congo on August 25, 2017, 08:14:46 PM
Moving on from the reporter trying to stir s**t up, it seems like SV Darmstadt 98 are trying to engineer a faster route for Joevin to join up with them. Seattle clearly knows what's happening and are playing coy. Darmstadt's aim is an immediate return to the Bundesliga and they're 1st in the Bundesliga-2 at present so they need him now rather than year end to set the pace in the league and for him to get acclimatise.

I don't think he as important to Damstadt 98 as you are trying to make out. If they wanted him in August etc then they would have just paid the fee and gotten the transfer done.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on August 29, 2017, 09:23:08 AM
I don't think he as important to Damstadt 98 as you are trying to make out. If they wanted him in August etc then they would have just paid the fee and gotten the transfer done.
Why pay a fee when you can sign him for free? Quite possibly they think they can manage til then. But if its possible to get him sooner without incurring a fee then why not.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on August 29, 2017, 02:04:13 PM
Moving on from the reporter trying to stir s**t up, it seems like SV Darmstadt 98 are trying to engineer a faster route for Joevin to join up with them. Seattle clearly knows what's happening and are playing coy. Darmstadt's aim is an immediate return to the Bundesliga and they're 1st in the Bundesliga-2 at present so they need him now rather than year end to set the pace in the league and for him to get acclimatise.

Danny Rose. Leighton Baines. Andre Ayew. Ashley Young. Ademola Lookman. Kazenga LuaLua. Joevin Jones.

They all have a few things in common. Guess which one is the most significant thing in common for present purposes.
Outside backs that be a threat on offense while resulting in contributing towards goals?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 29, 2017, 02:39:55 PM
Moving on from the reporter trying to stir s**t up, it seems like SV Darmstadt 98 are trying to engineer a faster route for Joevin to join up with them. Seattle clearly knows what's happening and are playing coy. Darmstadt's aim is an immediate return to the Bundesliga and they're 1st in the Bundesliga-2 at present so they need him now rather than year end to set the pace in the league and for him to get acclimatise.

Danny Rose. Leighton Baines. Andre Ayew. Ashley Young. Ademola Lookman. Kazenga LuaLua. Joevin Jones.

They all have a few things in common. Guess which one is the most significant thing in common for present purposes.
Outside backs that be a threat on offense while resulting in contributing towards goals?

More than outside backs, that's a sample of players who play/can play in a variety of positions on the left (whether as wingers, left mids or in defence). However, what they have/have held in common is their representation (an entity known as Base Soccer), which is pertinent to the issue at hand.

Joevin is in good hands with a sophisticated understanding of the environment and situation.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on August 29, 2017, 03:19:53 PM
Moving on from the reporter trying to stir s**t up, it seems like SV Darmstadt 98 are trying to engineer a faster route for Joevin to join up with them. Seattle clearly knows what's happening and are playing coy. Darmstadt's aim is an immediate return to the Bundesliga and they're 1st in the Bundesliga-2 at present so they need him now rather than year end to set the pace in the league and for him to get acclimatise.

Danny Rose. Leighton Baines. Andre Ayew. Ashley Young. Ademola Lookman. Kazenga LuaLua. Joevin Jones.

They all have a few things in common. Guess which one is the most significant thing in common for present purposes.
Outside backs that be a threat on offense while resulting in contributing towards goals?

More than outside backs, that's a sample of players who play/can play in a variety of positions on the left (whether as wingers, left mids or in defence). However, what they have/have held in common is their representation (an entity known as Base Soccer), which is pertinent to the issue at hand.

Joevin is in good hands with a sophisticated understanding of the environment and situation.

You have the real inside scoop sah
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 29, 2017, 04:11:50 PM
What it suggests is that if our FIFA ranking was in the right place, he could have been a candidate for playing in another country.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on August 29, 2017, 05:25:13 PM
What it suggests is that if our FIFA ranking was in the right place, he could have been a candidate for playing in another country.
We're doing things in reverse, if we get our national program right and rankings higher, more overseas opportunities will be available for our players.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on September 07, 2017, 09:41:54 PM
Seattle Sounders left back Joevin Jones returns to training after leaving team for personal reasons in late August
By Ryan Krasnoo (soundersfc.com)


Seattle Sounders left back Joevin Jones returned to training on Thursday after leaving the club for personal reasons on Aug. 22 and joining the Trinidad and Tobago national team ahead of 2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifiers.

Jones missed Seattle’s matches against the Vancouver Whitecaps on Aug. 23 and Portland Timbers on Aug. 27.

“He understands where he is with me and with his teammates,” Head Coach Brian Schmetzer said of Jones. “He has to prove to them that he is absolutely fully committed up until Dec. 9 and that will dictate how he plays, when he plays, why he plays.”

Jones signed a pre-contract with German club SV Darmstadt 98 in late July and will depart for Europe following the 2017 MLS season. He leads the Sounders with 10 assists in 24 matches, and Schmetzer said that Jones is available for selection on Sunday at home against the LA Galaxy (6 p.m. PT; FS1, 107.7 The End, El Rey 1360 AM | TICKETS).

“A lot of guys on the team like Joevin,” Schmetzer said. “A lot of them believe that he’s a good guy. People make mistakes. There’s no getting around that. As far as I’m concerned, it’s put to bed. All the disciplinary stuff has been handled internally. It’s put to bed. He’s got to prove it on the field. I have faith in him, and I expect him to do his job.”
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 08, 2017, 07:07:24 AM
Seattle Sounders left back Joevin Jones returns to training after leaving team for personal reasons in late August
By Ryan Krasnoo (soundersfc.com)


Seattle Sounders left back Joevin Jones returned to training on Thursday after leaving the club for personal reasons on Aug. 22 and joining the Trinidad and Tobago national team ahead of 2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifiers.

Jones missed Seattle’s matches against the Vancouver Whitecaps on Aug. 23 and Portland Timbers on Aug. 27.

“He understands where he is with me and with his teammates,” Head Coach Brian Schmetzer said of Jones. “He has to prove to them that he is absolutely fully committed up until Dec. 9 and that will dictate how he plays, when he plays, why he plays.”

Jones signed a pre-contract with German club SV Darmstadt 98 in late July and will depart for Europe following the 2017 MLS season. He leads the Sounders with 10 assists in 24 matches, and Schmetzer said that Jones is available for selection on Sunday at home against the LA Galaxy (6 p.m. PT; FS1, 107.7 The End, El Rey 1360 AM | TICKETS).

A lot of guys on the team like Joevin,” Schmetzer said. “A lot of them believe that he’s a good guy. People make mistakes. There’s no getting around that. As far as I’m concerned, it’s put to bed. All the disciplinary stuff has been handled internally. It’s put to bed. He’s got to prove it on the field. I have faith in him, and I expect him to do his job.”
He and Dempsey, for sure, seem like they real friendly with each other. That's a powerful voice on the team to have in your corner.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on September 12, 2017, 08:05:42 AM
Links to two articles related to Joevin Jones' return to Seattle after the international break.

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sounders/joevin-jones-not-in-starting-lineup-or-on-bench-as-sounders-face-l-a-galaxy/

https://www.sounderatheart.com/2017/9/10/16285706/seattle-sounders-la-galaxy-recap-1-1-on-sigis-return
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on September 12, 2017, 12:30:56 PM
Links to two articles related to Joevin Jones' return to Seattle after the international break.

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sounders/joevin-jones-not-in-starting-lineup-or-on-bench-as-sounders-face-l-a-galaxy/

https://www.sounderatheart.com/2017/9/10/16285706/seattle-sounders-la-galaxy-recap-1-1-on-sigis-return
I couldn't see no punitive action after just picking up and leaving just like that. If it's only a one game suspension, he is fortunate.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Thomo on September 14, 2017, 09:45:00 AM
On a positive note SV Darmstadt 98 are 2nd in Bundesliga 2, three points off the league leaders with 29 games to go.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on September 26, 2017, 06:24:42 PM
WATCH: What does Joevin Jones need to do to regain his best form?

https://www.youtube.com/v/3uYzT_fev4A
Title: JJ , Seattle and TT
Post by: maxg on November 21, 2017, 09:29:40 PM
Picong while watching Seattle v Houston
Title: Re: JJ , Seattle and TT
Post by: maxg on November 21, 2017, 09:32:28 PM
 :applause: :applause: :applause:   Perfect cross and assist by JJ.  Frig defense when man scoring yuh goals, oui
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on November 22, 2017, 07:23:33 PM
Joevin Jones has been shortlisted in the 2017 CONCACAF Awards Best XI - Defenders category. Please vote for him at https://awards.concacaf.com/en/poll/concacaf/male-best-xi-defenders.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on November 23, 2017, 12:21:20 AM
Joevin Jones has been shortlisted in the 2017 CONCACAF Awards Best XI - Defenders category. Please vote for him at https://awards.concacaf.com/en/poll/concacaf/male-best-xi-defenders.
  :-\ sorry T man, I can't. He just don't defend IMO. Sadly too, i think it's where he let us down most as he is accustomed to (and maybe prefers) the role he plays with club. If it had best crosser, and most exciting attacking midfielder, he would have my vote.  I like watching him still.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on November 23, 2017, 02:45:03 AM
maxg, you taking this beauty contest thing too seriously. We know he is not the best defender, but he is the best attacking defender. So seeing that they only have one category for defenders, I giving JJ the benefit without any doubts.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on November 23, 2017, 02:00:45 PM
maxg, you taking this beauty contest thing too seriously. We know he is not the best defender, but he is the best attacking defender. So seeing that they only have one category for defenders, I giving JJ the benefit without any doubts.
but he's not a defender at all..it just not fair to the guys who actually defend... I doh do friend thing, cause I won't stand for it happening against my friends. He is NOT the best defender, last few games I saw, he plays midfield.. he is an impact player, but not the best in any category.  "I doh know why they shoot him, he was a good boy" ting do slide with me. All of Trinidad could and might vote for him if they choose, but I won't and don't have too. TT need him to bring those attributes AND PLAY DEFENCE too.. else who we fooling, the MLS or weself ?
Being nominated is more than enough
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on November 23, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
maxg, you taking this beauty contest thing too seriously. We know he is not the best defender, but he is the best attacking defender. So seeing that they only have one category for defenders, I giving JJ the benefit without any doubts.
but he's not a defender at all..it just not fair to the guys who actually defend... I doh do friend thing, cause I won't stand for it happening against my friends. He is NOT the best defender, last few games I saw, he plays midfield.. he is an impact player, but not the best in any category.  "I doh know why they shoot him, he was a good boy" ting do slide with me. All of Trinidad could and might vote for him if they choose, but I won't and don't have too. TT need him to bring those attributes AND PLAY DEFENCE too.. else who we fooling, the MLS or weself ?
Being nominated is more than enough

Might as well say de same ting about Marcelo, Dani Alves, Valencia etc. Or should they separate the categories into wingbacks and center backs?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on November 23, 2017, 03:19:57 PM
Joevin Jones has been shortlisted in the 2017 CONCACAF Awards Best XI - Defenders category. Please vote for him at https://awards.concacaf.com/en/poll/concacaf/male-best-xi-defenders.
  :-\ sorry T man, I can't. He just don't defend IMO. Sadly too, i think it's where he let us down most as he is accustomed to (and maybe prefers) the role he plays with club. If it had best crosser, and most exciting attacking midfielder, he would have my vote.  I like watching him still.

Best crosser? ???
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on November 23, 2017, 06:17:55 PM
Add Victor Moses to list of defenders who really are not defenders, but play some defence.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 23, 2017, 08:47:57 PM
In a way we can put Essien on that list. He played CB, RB, CDM, CM, CAM. Natural midfielder but you wouldn't think he can do the same on defence. More a utility player I suppose. . 
Title: After torching Houston, Jones making his last few weeks in Seattle count
Post by: Tallman on November 23, 2017, 09:46:50 PM
After torching Houston, Jones making his last few weeks in Seattle count
By Matt Pentz (espnfc.com)


The most recent two Seattle Sounders seasons, the run to the 2016 MLS Cup championship and now to the brink of another title game, have hinged on pivot points, moments when their campaigns could have decisively broken one way or the other.

Last year, those were obvious: the firing of longtime coach Sigi Schmid and the promotion of Brian Schmetzer; the midseason arrival of playmaking midfielder Nicolas Lodeiro; Clint Dempsey's irregular heartbeat diagnosis and the team's resilient response to it.

This season, they've been subtler. But one pivot point in particular highlighted both Schmetzer's man-management skills and this group's close-knit bond, two virtues that have the Sounders in full control of their Western Conference final series, following a 2-0 victory in Houston on Tuesday night.

Starting left-back Joevin Jones went AWOL ahead of important rivalry matches against Vancouver and Portland in late August. Despite Trinidad and Tobago's friendly against Jamaica not falling within the FIFA-sanctioned window for matches -- and without team permission to leave early to join T&T -- Jones went anyway, informing Schmetzer only from afar via text message.

Jones' situation in Seattle was already precarious. In July, he signed a pre-contract with Darmstadt of the German second division, meaning he was out the door at the end of the season, regardless. Some viewed his stunt as a thinly veiled attempt to get the Sounders to release him from his MLS obligations early.

It's not as though Seattle would have been left completely high and dry. Young Cameroonian Nouhou Tolo, Jones' presumed successor, had been one of the pleasant surprises of the season and had been playing especially well in the weeks leading up to the episode.

And yet Schmetzer welcomed the prodigal son back into the fold. Jones and the coach hashed things out one-on-one, the player apologized to his teammates, and after sitting out the home game against the LA Galaxy as punishment, it was as if the whole thing never happened.

"He understands where he is with me and with his teammates," Schmetzer said at the time. "He has to prove to them that he is absolutely, fully committed up until Dec. 9 [MLS Cup] and that will dictate how he plays, when he plays, how he plays, all of that sort of stuff.

"People make mistakes. There's no getting around that. As far as I'm concerned, it's put to bed."

Now, this was a calculated gamble. In a team with a more delicate locker room chemistry, Jones' defection and subsequent slap on the wrist could have opened up fractures within the group.

It paid off. Jones' commitment hasn't been in question since. And on Tuesday night, he gave a timely reminder of why he was worth the headache to begin with, torching the Dynamo up the left wing from start to finish.

Jones won the foul that got Jalil Anibaba sent off and reduced Houston to 10 men midway through the first half, and he supplied the cross that effectively ended the series, a pinpoint feed that Will Bruin duly headed into the back of the net.

Jones' legacy in Seattle will be complicated, and not just because he's leaving on less-than-ideal terms. Two years is not a lot of time to build up a dedicated following, and defenders by their nature are less likely to conjure up the fuzzy feelings that, say, strikers do.

Yet his contributions to the Sounders' consecutive title pushes should not be forgotten entirely. Few players have played as active of a role in each of these two postseasons.

It's kind of amazing how diverse Seattle's list of recent playoff heroes is. Nelson Valdez, who scored the winning goal in last year's knockout round, is no longer with the team. Jordan Morris, he of the epic "Flu Game" in Colorado last November, has been out since September with a hamstring injury. Dempsey, whose two goals bested Vancouver in the previous round, missed the entirety of the 2016 run. And Bruin joined the team last offseason.

Of those playing important attacking roles -- Jones is usually a left-back, but he was deployed as a winger on Tuesday night -- only the Trinidad and Tobago international and Lodeiro have been impactful in back-to-back postseasons for the Sounders.

There's actually a case to be made that Seattle should've done more to keep Jones around long term. General manager Garth Lagerwey said the club made a "significant offer" that the player declined, but there had to have been a price point that would have retained his services.

Jones' 2017 salary of less than $100,000, per the players' union, is a pittance, comparatively. Having racked up 11 assists this year, by some distance the most by a defender in MLS, he might be the very best bargain in the league. He is a proven big-game player too, as evidenced by his three assists during last year's championship run and performance on Tuesday night.

At this point, what's done is done. No matter what happens in these next few weeks -- ultimate glory or heartbreak -- they'll be Jones' last in Seattle.

He seems determined to make the moments count, and that's to the credit of Schmetzer, the player himself and a strong-willed group that has a legitimate shot at defending their title.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on November 24, 2017, 01:04:13 AM
maxg, you taking this beauty contest thing too seriously. We know he is not the best defender, but he is the best attacking defender. So seeing that they only have one category for defenders, I giving JJ the benefit without any doubts.
but he's not a defender at all..it just not fair to the guys who actually defend... I doh do friend thing, cause I won't stand for it happening against my friends. He is NOT the best defender, last few games I saw, he plays midfield.. he is an impact player, but not the best in any category.  "I doh know why they shoot him, he was a good boy" ting do slide with me. All of Trinidad could and might vote for him if they choose, but I won't and don't have too. TT need him to bring those attributes AND PLAY DEFENCE too.. else who we fooling, the MLS or weself ?
Being nominated is more than enough

Might as well say de same ting about Marcelo, Dani Alves, Valencia etc. Or should they separate the categories into wingbacks and center backs?
1 st off JJ not in them fellas class skills wise, 2ndly dem fellas does play definite wingbacks and does tackle real hard, with venom almost, when necessary..look at the last Seattle game again, or even the last TT game JJ play..With them guys yuh know what you getting hard defence and dangerous attack, JJ is all attack..yuh might be comparing Oranges and Putigal. Yet is all a matter of perspective and opinion. As long as he does what he is contracted to do, fine by me. But certainly not best defender, not even best wingback..Most exciting as far as unpredictabilty attacking wing player, yeah I could argue that..but may not be better than Levi for my team.. Joevin talent is very positive for club, as part of a built team, just put him with some defenders, outside to collect and cause issues for opposing teams we good to go..It will have to breakdown to far to be best yet..he still have some development is all I saying, not best yet in my opinion, yet certainly exciting,  your examples all dun reach.. TT will benefit most if he can manage it. Would love to see more from him, he certainly has the ability to achieve.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on November 24, 2017, 01:10:07 AM
Joevin Jones has been shortlisted in the 2017 CONCACAF Awards Best XI - Defenders category. Please vote for him at https://awards.concacaf.com/en/poll/concacaf/male-best-xi-defenders.
  :-\ sorry T man, I can't. He just don't defend IMO. Sadly too, i think it's where he let us down most as he is accustomed to (and maybe prefers) the role he plays with club. If it had best crosser, and most exciting attacking midfielder, he would have my vote.  I like watching him still.

Best crosser? ???
only due to the success of the Seattle forwards actually scoring more crosses he provides, and the club deriving some measure of success as a result...his real strength doh, imo, is given space, he can provide, score (should have last game) or just plain cause hassecara..thus events when he is around the ball.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on December 01, 2017, 02:25:06 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones puts it on a platter for Clint Dempsey to give Seattle Sounders a 2-0 lead over Houston Dynamo (https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/12/01/goal-clint-dempsey-slides-ensure-sea-advancement?autoplay=true).

WATCH: Seattle Sounders FC defender Joevin Jones soaks Head Coach Brian Schmetzer with champagne following the club's 5-0 aggregate win in the Western Conference Championship over Houston Dynamo.

https://www.youtube.com/v/n7x_o4c9h9Q
Title: Trinidad and Tobago’s Joevin Jones receives Seattle Sounders FC praise
Post by: Tallman on December 01, 2017, 02:58:01 PM
Trinidad and Tobago’s Joevin Jones receives Seattle Sounders FC praise
CONCACAF.com


Trinidad & Tobago Joevin Jones received high praise after Seattle Sounders FC rolled to a 3-0 victory over the Houston Dynamo in the second leg of the MLS Western Conference final on Thursday night.

Defending champion Sounders FC won the series, 5-0 on aggregate, and will meet host Toronto FC in MLS Cup final on December 9 in a battle of 2018 Scotiabank CONCACAF Champions League competitors.

Jones played well as a midfielder, assisting on the second goal at CenturyLink Field.

"JJ's been tremendous," said head coach Brian Schmetzer.

With Seattle leading 1-0 in the 57th minute, Jones demonstrated his playmaking ability from the left flank. He fed Clint Dempsey, who slipped the ball past goalkeeper Joe Willis.

"Joevin's been awesome," Dempsey remarked. "He's had a great year. I don't know how many assists that he's gotten. He's really improved every year, but this year he has taken it to another level."

Jones, 26, registered 11 assists during the regular season, adding two in the playoffs.

Dempsey said that Jones' future "is really, really bright."

"He's a very talented player," added the U.S. international forward. "He makes my job a lot easier with the service that he provides."

MLS Cup will be Jones' final game with Seattle, before he joins SV Darmstadt in Germany on a free transfer in January.

"The job he has done for this club is something that he should be proud of,” Schmetzer concluded. “I'm proud of the job he has done for the club. He's a tremendous talent and I wish him the best."
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 01, 2017, 04:12:34 PM
Forumites, remember JJ was DEVELOPED by local coaches, including his Father. ;D
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on December 01, 2017, 05:20:35 PM
Congrats JJ. Now comes your real test. Bundesliga II is no walk in the park. Not to mention the European mentality and race/foreign expectancy issues. Get ready train mind , heart and body. You have to bring all aspects of the game, else they get a local to hold things up. Wishing you these higher heights. Master this level, and you become A Boss.  There are still higher levels than Boss level, i'm sure you have the talent to discover.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 01, 2017, 06:23:24 PM
Congrats JJ. Now comes your real test. Bundesliga II is no walk in the park. Not to mention the European mentality and race/foreign expectancy issues. Get ready train mind , heart and body. You have to bring all aspects of the game, else they get a local to hold things up. Wishing you these higher heights. Master this level, and you become A Boss.  There are still higher levels than Boss level, i'm sure you have the talent to discover.

ditto
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on December 03, 2017, 04:28:03 AM
Jones goes for second MLS Cup.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).


National team defender Joevin Jones will be hoping to finish his time with Seattle Sounders on a second straight title-winning note when he takes the pitch for them against Toronto FC in the MLS Cup Final on December 9.

Jones was superb for Seattle in their 2-0 win over Houston Dynamo last week and followed up with another deft delivery that led to Clint Dempsey’s goal in Thursday’s 3-0 win over Houston.

“Obviously it would be great to leave Seattle on a winning note. It would be great to win the MLS Cup once again and I’m really looking forward to a performance that will help us bring it home,” said Jones who is due to join Bundesliga 2 club, SV Darmstadt in January.

Seattle coach Brian Schmetzer has already said that he expects Jones to be a complete professional following his decision to leave the camp back in September.

“He understands where he is with me and with his team-mates,” Schmetzer said. “He has to prove to them that he is absolutely, fully committed up until December 9 and that will dictate how he plays, when he plays.

“People make mistakes. There’s no getting around that. As far as I’m concerned, it’s put to bed.”

Jones has been nominated for the CONCACAF top defender award for 2017.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on January 06, 2018, 10:03:40 AM
Newcomer Joevin Jones joins up with his SV Darmstadt 98 on the way to a training camp in San Pedro del Pinatar, Spain.

(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26168464_10156115268239314_5170496371455468777_n.jpg?oh=15d2f836093134201c82eef98bbdbee2&oe=5AB116F3)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mose on January 06, 2018, 11:28:18 AM
Niceness! Just heard he was having some visa/work permit issues, but was expected to join up with the team on this trip. Apparently though things have not been going so well for the team since he signed. They are now down in 16th place in Bundesliga II and Frings is no longer the coach and the new coach is waiting to see what he has to offer. To his advantage, apparently he's 1 of 2 left footers in the entire squad. Hope things work out for him.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Sam on January 07, 2018, 07:42:56 AM
I feel Joevin made a mistake to join that shit team who get relegated last season.

He better than that, maybe he went for de money.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on January 12, 2018, 05:46:45 AM
Jones makes debut in SV Darmstadt.
T&T Guardian Reports.


T&T senior men’s football team utility player, Joevin Jones kicked off his European professional career on a winning note when he featured in the first-half for SV Darmstadt in a 3-0 defeat of Belgium’s Jupiler League club, Waasland-Beveren at the Pinatar Arena, Football Center, San Pedro del Pinatar on Tuesday.

Today (Friday), the 25-year-Jones and his team coached by Dirk Schuster will continue their pre-season campaign versus 3rd Bundesliga Division’s Wurzburger Kickers before closing out versus fellow 2nd Bundesliga outfit Greuther Furth.

Darmstadt is currently third from bottom of the 18-team 2nd Bundesliga with 19 points from 18 matches to occupy the relegation playoff spot, just ahead Greuther Furth (18 points) and Kaiserslauter.

When the 2nd Bundesliga resumes on January 24, Jones will be hoping to be in his team’s starting line-up for their clash against cellar-placed Kaiserslautern as it seeks to move away from the relegation zone.

Last July, Jones signed with German Bundesliga 2 club SV Darmstadt 98 until June 2020 and former W Connection player moved from American Major League Soccer (MLS) club Seattle Sounders in December following the conclusion of their season in which they fell to Toronto FC 1-0 in the MLS Final.

His first stint in the MLS began in January 2015 when he signed for the Chicago Fire before being traded to Seattle where he lifted the 2016 crown.

At Darmstadt Jones has joined American Terrence Boyd as well as is former Turkish international and ex-Real Madrid and Bayern Munich midfielder Hamit Altıntop, Polish international Artur Sobiech, Slovenia international Roman Bxzjak and Australian international Jamie Maclaren.

SV Darmstadt were promoted to the German Bundelisga for the 2015-2016 season but were relegated to Bundelisga 2 after losing 1-0 to Bayern Munich on the final match day last season.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 12, 2018, 09:57:13 AM
Man, look how times has changed. Kaiserslautern in the bottom of German D2. This team used to give Bayern, Monchengladbach, etc a run for their money, now they struggling. Back to JJ. Breds, if you standout while your new team avoid the drop to D3, you will have had a successful year, as far as I am concerned.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on January 13, 2018, 05:34:04 AM
Jones solid in SV Darmstadt friendly draw.
By Nigel Simon (Guardian).


T&T senior men’s football team utility player, Joevin Jones made his second appearance in as many matches for SV Darmstadt when he played the second-half of a 0-0 winter-break friendly draw with 3rd Bundesliga Division’s Wurzburger Kickers.

On Tuesday, Jones had a first-half run-out in a 3-0 win over Belgium’s Jupiler League club, Waasland-Beveren at the same Pinatar Arena, Football Center, San Pedro del Pinatar before being replaced by Fabian Holland.

And yesterday, the two reversed roles with the 26-year-Jones replacing left back Holland at the resumption of the second-half of a tightly contested match with both teams showing signs of a heavy winter-training regime.

Jones and his teammates will play one final winter-break friendly fellow 2nd Bundesliga outfit Greuther Furth ahead of resumption their campaign versus cellar-placed Kaiserslautern on January 24 as it seeks to move away from the relegation zone.

Darmstadt is currently third from bottom of the 18-team 2nd Bundesliga with 19 points from 18 matches to occupy the relegation playoff spot, just ahead Greuther Furth (18 points) and Kaiserslauter.

When the 2nd Bundesliga resumes on

Last July, Jones signed with German Bundesliga 2 club SV Darmstadt 98 until June 2020 and former W Connection player moved from American Major League Soccer (MLS) club Seattle Sounders in December following the conclusion of their season in which they fell to Toronto FC 1-0 in the MLS Final.

His first stint in the MLS began in January 2015 when he signed for the Chicago Fire before being traded to Seattle where he lifted the 2016 crown.

SV Darmstadt were promoted to the German Bundelisga for the 2015-2016 season but were relegated to 2nd Bundelisga after losing 1-0 to Bayern Munich on the final match day last season.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on January 24, 2018, 12:17:27 PM
Joevin Jones makes his Bundesliga 2 debut for SV Darmstadt 98 against 1. FC Kaiserslautern. Playing as a left sided midfielder.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUUf-nJW0AAU6LX.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on January 24, 2018, 12:20:49 PM
is half-time in Jones game dey. Very quiet half. He don't look like he out of his league - fitting in good. But definitely not shining like he did at Seattle. Teammates not looking for him to pass to , like before where he was the magic man. Maybe later on they will trust him to make it happen.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on January 24, 2018, 01:25:21 PM
So I finally get a Kodi link to work, just in time to see the game abandoned. Why ?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on January 24, 2018, 01:32:14 PM
So I finally get a Kodi link to work, just in time to see the game abandoned. Why ?
come nah man! that was elementary German  ;D
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on January 24, 2018, 01:44:21 PM
So I finally get a Kodi link to work, just in time to see the game abandoned. Why ?
come nah man! that was elementary German  ;D
All i get was "Zu viel Trini auf dem Feld"   ;D
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: FF on January 24, 2018, 01:47:00 PM
Kaiserslautern Head Coach had a medical emergency and had to be rushed to hospital.

Both sides agreed to abandon the game... I hope he is ok.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on January 24, 2018, 02:21:33 PM
Kaiserslautern Head Coach had a medical emergency and had to be rushed to hospital.

Both sides agreed to abandon the game... I hope he is ok.
Kaiserslautern Head Coach had a medical emergency and had to be rushed to hospital.

Both sides agreed to abandon the game... I hope he is ok.
thanks for info FF. figure it had to be serious. Sorry to hear. 
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 24, 2018, 04:52:05 PM
Hope for good recovery.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on January 25, 2018, 08:07:14 AM
I heard it was a heart attack, I hope he is ok.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on January 28, 2018, 06:55:43 AM
He just scored his first goal for Darmstadt ! Good going JJ!!!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on January 28, 2018, 12:01:15 PM
He just scored his first goal for Darmstadt ! Good going JJ!!!
Did they win?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: chelsealife on January 28, 2018, 01:07:01 PM
He just scored his first goal for Darmstadt ! Good going JJ!!!
Did they win?
Yea they did, 1-0
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on January 28, 2018, 02:10:25 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/video-ex-sounders-defender-joevin-183045075.html
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on January 28, 2018, 04:22:53 PM
any info on what position he played....it looked like winger but.... ???
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on January 28, 2018, 06:18:37 PM
ok found my answer here left wing finally (https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/01/28/mls-exports-former-sounder-joevin-jones-scores-injured-german-debut)
Title: Joevin Jones earns SV Darmstadt first win in four months
Post by: Tallman on January 28, 2018, 06:19:13 PM
Joevin Jones earns SV Darmstadt first win in four months
By James Rees (vavel.com)


SV Darmstadt 98 won for the first time since September, with a 1-0 victory against FC St. Pauli thanks to an early goal from Joevin Jones.

Darmstadt had won four of their opening six games of the 2. Bundesliga season, but they had been winless since beating Arminia Bielefeld in mid-September, a run that had seen them plummet into the bottom two before kick-off.

However in just his second start for the club, Jones fired in with just six minutes gone, and although St. Pauli were the dominant side for most of the match, Dirk Schuster’s side hung on for a precious three points, which move them back up to 16th in the table.

St. Pauli dominate to fail to respond to Jones’s strike
St. Pauli were fresh from a 3-1 win at Dynamo Dresden less than 72 hours earlier, but had to do without an injured Lasse Sobiech and Bernd Nehrig, who was ill and only fit enough for the bench. Clemens Schoppenhauer was handed a belated first start with Johannes Flum also coming in. Darmstadt’s first game of the year against 1. FC Kaiserslautern was called after the Red Devils’ boss Jeff Strasser was taken ill at half-time. They have since brought in Dong-Won Ji from FC Augsburg on loan, and he took the place of Jan Rosenthal place in the starting line-up.

St. Pauli had the first chance of the game, capitalising on a mistake by Slobodan Medojevic, with Aziz Bouhaddouz snatching the ball from him. He played through to Cenk Sahin who shot across goal and wide. Darmstadt then went down the other end, with Jones coming through the middle and shooting from outside the box. The shot kept low but it found its way through everyone, and past Robin Himmelmann, to put the Lilies into the lead.

It was the first goal in German football for the player brought in from Seattle Sounders. However having seen his debut cut short by the unfortunate circumstances on Wednesday, he didn’t make it to 45 minutes here as he was forced off by injury – not before though being yellow-carded for coming back onto the pitch following treatment without the referee’s permission.

Despite the early set back, the hosts would go on to boss the play in the first half. Bouhaddouz, without a goal all season, and Jermey Dudziak combined soon after, with the former’s shot saved by Daniel Heuer Fernandes with his feet. Luca Zander then from a tight angle forced the ball in off Romain Brégerie, albeit only after the flag went up. Replays show it was, at best, a very close call.

They remained on top up until the break, with the visitors not register any shots apart from the goal. Sami Allagui had a couple of efforts saved from Heuer Fernandes, whilst in the closing stages of the half, the Darmstadt goalkeeper punched the ball into the path of Clemens Schoppenhauer. Sensing a chance he struck towards goal, but Aytac Sulu got down to head the ball away from goal.

The equaliser never comes as Darmstadt hang on
It took a little while for the second half to really get going, although Sulu survived appeals for what would have been a harsh handball as he slipped in the Darmstadt box. Allagui then came close to scoring twice. A cross from Bouhaddouz didn’t quite get to him as Fabian Holland intercepted, but no-one denied him the chance to head on goal soon after, only for Heuer Fernandes to save and Sulu to clear.

Having survived that, Darmstadt finally began to offer something going forward themselves as they looked to extend their lead. A corner took a deflection off Allagui allowed Peter Niemeyer a chance to shoot, with Himmelmann saving from point blank range. They threatened from set pieces too, with substitute Rosenthal going wide following a corner and Sulu heading wide from a free-kick.

St. Pauli, who had brought on Dimitris Diamantakos for his debut and Richard Neudecker, a scorer on Thursday night, appeared to be becoming more desperate as they tried to force an equaliser. Neudecker in fact came close to scoring again, after he headed towards goal from a Waldemar Sobota cross, but it was an excellent save from Heuer Fernandes to tip the ball over the bar.

It was beginning to look like the equaliser would never come. Dudziak shot over after finding some space, whilst a Bouhaddouz header from a corner was easily saved by Heuer Fernandes. Darmstadt had chances to make sure of the win too, with Tobias Kempe and Medojevic shots both off target, but in the end they hung on for three points earned with their backs to the wall. Meanwhile it was a first loss, and a frustrating one at that, for St. Pauli under Markus Kauczinski.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on January 29, 2018, 07:19:17 AM
WATCH: Joevin Jones scores the game-winning goal in SV Darmstadt 98’s 1-0 win over FC St. Pauli (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6dtzf5)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 29, 2018, 07:55:17 AM
That is the way to go. Put a stamp on the radar immediately. That is a well placed goal. The shot was deceptively fast. Plus the goalie was partially blinded by lots of players in front of him. JJ timing to shoot was on point. More JJ more. Good luck.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Fyzoman on January 29, 2018, 10:12:51 AM
As someone who has drank JJ
That is the way to go. Put a stamp on the radar immediately. That is a well placed goal. The shot was deceptively fast. Plus the goalie was partially blinded by lots of players in front of him. JJ timing to shoot was on point. More JJ more. Good luck.
Exactly! They buy yuh...well ok, go ahead and score to give them their first victory in four months.
World class finish!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on January 29, 2018, 10:37:20 AM
The crowd was singing his name after the whistle. They loving him already. Great job JJ! Keep it up!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: dcs on January 30, 2018, 07:11:06 AM

Wow.
Bottom of 2nd division, not a win in 4 months and their stadium looks sold out with flags waving and crowd singing. That is impressive.

Keep playing well and working hard. This could be a great experience for him.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on January 30, 2018, 03:16:35 PM

Wow.
Bottom of 2nd division, not a win in 4 months and their stadium looks sold out with flags waving and crowd singing. That is impressive.

Keep playing well and working hard. This could be a great experience for him.

Yea they real serious about their football. Me and my cousin were in Köln in october and tried to get tickets to the Bremen game, both teams were in the relegation zone at the time, completely sold out.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: dcs on January 30, 2018, 04:31:00 PM

Now confirm the St Pauli game was away. Flags was looking different. Match attendance was 29k.

I found a home game against Bochum attendance was 16k looks sold out.
Darmstadt Home Game - Up in the stands (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2FMrM8q3Z0)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on January 31, 2018, 11:47:44 AM
I would like some info on the injury.  I trust whoever hears about it will post.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on January 31, 2018, 04:09:18 PM
I would like some info on the injury.  I trust whoever hears about it will post.


What injury?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on January 31, 2018, 09:36:28 PM
I would like some info on the injury.  I trust whoever hears about it will post.


What injury?
He went off injured before half time.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Trini Madness on February 02, 2018, 11:29:49 AM
Oh I didn't know. I hope he's ok.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Storeboy on February 04, 2018, 09:18:05 AM
WATCH: Joevin Jones scores the game-winning goal in SV Darmstadt 98’s 1-0 win over FC St. Pauli (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6dtzf5)

Great goal!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on February 04, 2018, 02:34:13 PM
They lost 2-1 this weekend to MSV Duisburg and Joevin played the full 90.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on February 05, 2018, 04:28:26 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones gets his first assist for SV Darmstadt 98 in their 2-1 loss to MSV Duisburg (https://streamable.com/mn0vn?autoplay=true). Also misses the opportunity to score his second goal for the club.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on February 05, 2018, 07:13:57 PM
Yes, that was a miss!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on February 09, 2018, 11:40:46 AM
started & looking comfortable now. *edit* might be too early to tel, but I ent liking this move for Joevin. This side don't look like they going and get promoted anytime soon, and Joevin ent standing out like he used to at Seattle [just b/c of the style of play - more physical, ball in the air etc]. I was really hoping for something higher for Joevin career than 2nd bundesliga. I hope he figures out what to do to adjust.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on February 09, 2018, 01:42:18 PM
started & looking comfortable now. *edit* might be too early to tel, but I ent liking this move for Joevin. This side don't look like they going and get promoted anytime soon, and Joevin ent standing out like he used to at Seattle [just b/c of the style of play - more physical, ball in the air etc]. I was really hoping for something higher for Joevin career than 2nd bundesliga. I hope he figures out what to do to adjust.

2-1 loss. All the goals were scored within a ten minute span between the 60' and 70' marks.

Like what? Serie A?

 
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on February 10, 2018, 07:59:27 AM
Higher levels have to want you before you could go there.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on February 10, 2018, 08:44:55 AM
started & looking comfortable now. *edit* might be too early to tel, but I ent liking this move for Joevin. This side don't look like they going and get promoted anytime soon, and Joevin ent standing out like he used to at Seattle [just b/c of the style of play - more physical, ball in the air etc]. I was really hoping for something higher for Joevin career than 2nd bundesliga. I hope he figures out what to do to adjust.

2-1 loss. All the goals were scored within a ten minute span between the 60' and 70' marks.

Like what? Serie A?

 
Eventually Serie A yes. Any of the 1st division leagues around the world that are above Bundesliga 2. If he doesn't stand out he is not going to magically end up in Bundesliga.
Arguably both goals were Joevins' fault and he got taken off right after the 2nd. You wouldn't see if from the highlights, but the game was tight and right before the 1st he collect the ball at the top of his 3rd and play the ball to absolutely nobody and they immediately pass it back about 4 touches into the goal. The second one he didn't apply pressure at the top of the box leading to the cross that eventually score.
Of course definitely not trying to carry down my favorite player, as a fan just hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on February 10, 2018, 11:14:49 AM
Eventually Serie A yes. Any of the 1st division leagues around the world that are above Bundesliga 2. If he doesn't stand out he is not going to magically end up in Bundesliga.
Arguably both goals were Joevins' fault and he got taken off right after the 2nd. You wouldn't see if from the highlights, but the game was tight and right before the 1st he collect the ball at the top of his 3rd and play the ball to absolutely nobody and they immediately pass it back about 4 touches into the goal. The second one he didn't apply pressure at the top of the box leading to the cross that eventually score.
Of course definitely not trying to carry down my favorite player, as a fan just hoping for the best.

I mentioned Serie A specifically because of this (https://wired868.com/2013/12/15/addio-serie-a-joevin-fails-to-seduce-udinese/).

Look, 2. Bundesliga is a very respectable destination. Very. Many of our journeymen would gladly trade a career played entirely in 2. Bundesliga rather than traipsing all about the planet from Vietnam to the Maldives. The player only just arrived (plus he had weeks in Spain). He has to adjust to Germany. Once he has the support structure he will need off the field, there should be no excuses.

He's playing. Not on the bench. But the fight for minutes must always stay with him.

I didn't see the match, but in the press conference Schuster said something that alludes to one of your comments. "Wir haben Situationen schlecht verteidigt und den Ball freiwillig wieder hergeschenkt." ... "We defended poorly and gave up the ball".

The points lost against Bochum were precious because they could have leapfrogged Bochum in the standings and moved up a couple places. Arminia next and then the Kaiserslautern replay. One team positioned above them and one team to hammer into the ground. At the end of the day, Darmstadt eh going back to the top flight in 2018. The arithmetic and likely outcomes doh support that happening. So he's a player in 2. Bundesliga for the foreseeable future.

Man, look how times has changed. Kaiserslautern in the bottom of German D2. This team used to give Bayern, Monchengladbach, etc a run for their money, now they struggling. Back to JJ. Breds, if you standout while your new team avoid the drop to D3, you will have had a successful year, as far as I am concerned.

Yeah Deeks ... TTT used to show Kaiserslautern on de regular.
 
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on February 21, 2018, 01:28:54 PM
They just lost 2-1 to Kaiserslautern with JJ providing the assist.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: andremartinsc on February 22, 2018, 10:02:14 AM
I've been watching him. He's doing well but Darmstadt bad campaign could hurt the way he's seen by other clubs. Kinda like what happened with Mekeil Williams, who's in USL right now mostly because he went unnoticed in MLS due to Colorado Rapids poor performances, even with him playing well many times.

Personally I think Jones should've gone to Eredivise instead of Bundesliga 2 (I don't know if he had offers from there though), but honestly I think he has the quality to be a Bundesliga left back in the next years. I was a big fan of him already during his time with Chicago Fire and called it "the trade of the year" when Seattle Sounders got a potential top fullback like him for almost nothing.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on February 22, 2018, 03:38:28 PM
he has the quality to be a Bundesliga left back in the next years.

He eh got much years. He is what?? 26 27.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: andremartinsc on February 23, 2018, 06:06:39 AM
That's the big problem with Caribbean and Central American players. Unless they shine in youth tournaments and get a move to Europe soon (like Levi Garcia for Trinidad, Ricardo Ávila and Ismael Diaz for Panamá etc), they'll have to put impressive numbers in MLS or MX/Ascenso to attract interest most times. Or they need to show something really good in international competitions and friendlies (Roderick Miller from Panamá got a contract with Atletico Nacional from Colombia probably because of his showing against Brazil, and Abdiel Arroyo got contracts in Uruguay, Croatia and Colombia mostly because of good international appearances, like Copa America). Costa Rica players have been getting attention from Europe after the last World Cup too. Many of them moved to Europe after that and they get international respect and attention because of this.

Since Trinidad is not living the best moment in international competitions, the players need to be focused and make the most of their chances in their clubs and work harder than the others. Molino, for example, can't be satisfied with what he did last year, he needs much more than that in 2018.

And we can't forget CONCACAF still isn't a big stage to the world. I mean, Joevin was already a good player in Chicago Fire but the whole team was poor, no one stood out, and clubs around the world won't be scouting teams like that. Then he moved to a good Seattle team and did really well on his first year, had more than 10 assists and was noticeably the best left back in the league, but he had to play ANOTHER great season in 2017 to really get attention from Europe (and Darmstadt only got him probably because he was available for free). So in this process the players end up loosing many years of their careers.

Also leagues like MLS and MX/Ascenso will always value more their domestic talent, so the Caribbean and Central Americans will always need to work harder than the domestic players to have a starting spot. Cato was the best fullback available for San Jose at some point but a worse American player started many matches over him.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on February 23, 2018, 07:10:52 AM
They just lost 2-1 to Kaiserslautern with JJ providing the assist.

WATCH: Joevin Jones’s assist in SV Darmstadt 98’s 2-1 loss to Kaiserlautern (https://streamable.com/gdv3z)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on February 23, 2018, 02:34:16 PM
Sweet assist and finish!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: FF on February 25, 2018, 11:00:43 AM
Joevin score again. Rescue a 1-1 draw while playing with 10 men

Look like he too good for 2. Bundesliga but Darmstadt still languishing in relegation spots.

Hope they hit form and escape or he continue performing and escape anyway.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: FF on February 25, 2018, 11:07:16 AM
Don't think I ever see him score a header before.

https://www.trollfootball.me/videos/view/darmstadt-1-1-heidenheim-joevin-jones
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on February 25, 2018, 11:36:21 AM
They caught them napping on that equalizer....once JJ keep playing at his best making he continues to score or assist, he could be taken up by at club higher level than Darmstadt.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Anbrat on February 26, 2018, 01:57:41 PM
Joevin score again. Rescue a 1-1 draw while playing with 10 men

Look like he too good for 2. Bundesliga but Darmstadt still languishing in relegation spots.

Hope they hit form and escape or he continue performing and escape anyway.
"Look like he too too good for 2 etc"............. ???
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 01, 2018, 12:02:53 PM
Don't think I ever see him score a header before.

https://www.trollfootball.me/videos/view/darmstadt-1-1-heidenheim-joevin-jones

When interviewed he said it's his first header in 10 or 15 years. First as a pro.

One thing doh ... his reaction time was quick. In an era in which our NT players are customarily bashed for exhibiting poor concentration or having low concentration levels, he was particularly switched on.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on March 01, 2018, 02:00:05 PM
Don't think I ever see him score a header before.

https://www.trollfootball.me/videos/view/darmstadt-1-1-heidenheim-joevin-jones

When interviewed he said it's his first header in 10 or 15 years. First as a pro.

One thing doh ... his reaction time was quick. In an era in which our NT players are customarily bashed for exhibiting poor concentration or having low concentration levels, he was particularly switched on.
For a man who not accustom scoring headers, he make that look easy. Excellent header.  Maybe they wukkin him. We know the guy have talent. Is not the on switch was the issue, is the fuse. Maybe Germany has the right material to make it last, at least for awhile. Well done JJ
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Cocorite on March 01, 2018, 03:37:07 PM
Don't think I ever see him score a header before.

https://www.trollfootball.me/videos/view/darmstadt-1-1-heidenheim-joevin-jones

When interviewed he said it's his first header in 10 or 15 years. First as a pro.

One thing doh ... his reaction time was quick. In an era in which our NT players are customarily bashed for exhibiting poor concentration or having low concentration levels, he was particularly switched on.
For a man who not accustom scoring headers, he make that look easy. Excellent header.  Maybe they wukkin him. We know the guy have talent. Is not the on switch was the issue, is the fuse. Maybe Germany has the right material to make it last, at least for awhile. Well done JJ

The On/Off switch concern for T&T players is usually when we're defending, as far as I cal tell
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 02, 2018, 01:02:41 AM
Don't think I ever see him score a header before.

https://www.trollfootball.me/videos/view/darmstadt-1-1-heidenheim-joevin-jones

When interviewed he said it's his first header in 10 or 15 years. First as a pro.

One thing doh ... his reaction time was quick. In an era in which our NT players are customarily bashed for exhibiting poor concentration or having low concentration levels, he was particularly switched on.
For a man who not accustom scoring headers, he make that look easy. Excellent header.  Maybe they wukkin him. We know the guy have talent. Is not the on switch was the issue, is the fuse. Maybe Germany has the right material to make it last, at least for awhile. Well done JJ

The On/Off switch concern for T&T players is usually when we're defending, as far as I cal tell


Perhaps we feel/observe it more in defensive situations, particularly when goals are scored. And our record in recent time reflects many of those situations. However, it's also evident at the other end of the field.

Players arriving "late" at the end of final balls and spurning chances has that on/off switch. Not recognizing decisive moments of when/where to pass and where/when to run has that on/off switch too.

In the Darmstadt game, play restarted quickly. JJ was on it.

There's a ball I recall KJ showing for, but Cyrus had something else in mind and he ended up making no pass at all. Positionally, KJ was the most advanced player on the pitch. We talking about 3 to 5 seconds made the difference between T&T attacking and transitioning to defense off ah that wanting decision and a pass of about 10 to 15 meters that was not made, but should have been made because it was the pass to make. If I can "feel" the time it's taking for a player in an attacking movement to make a decisión, something ain't right.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on March 02, 2018, 12:04:28 PM
playing great. score 1 again for 1-0 lead in 30'-ish.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on March 02, 2018, 01:07:23 PM
playing great. score 1 again for 1-0 lead in 30'-ish.
I think somebody finally using him in the correct position
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Cocorite on March 02, 2018, 01:58:51 PM
Don't think I ever see him score a header before.

https://www.trollfootball.me/videos/view/darmstadt-1-1-heidenheim-joevin-jones

When interviewed he said it's his first header in 10 or 15 years. First as a pro.

One thing doh ... his reaction time was quick. In an era in which our NT players are customarily bashed for exhibiting poor concentration or having low concentration levels, he was particularly switched on.
For a man who not accustom scoring headers, he make that look easy. Excellent header.  Maybe they wukkin him. We know the guy have talent. Is not the on switch was the issue, is the fuse. Maybe Germany has the right material to make it last, at least for awhile. Well done JJ

The On/Off switch concern for T&T players is usually when we're defending, as far as I cal tell


Perhaps we feel/observe it more in defensive situations, particularly when goals are scored. And our record in recent time reflects many of those situations. However, it's also evident at the other end of the field.

Players arriving "late" at the end of final balls and spurning chances has that on/off switch. Not recognizing decisive moments of when/where to pass and where/when to run has that on/off switch too.

In the Darmstadt game, play restarted quickly. JJ was on it.

There's a ball I recall KJ showing for, but Cyrus had something else in mind and he ended up making no pass at all. Positionally, KJ was the most advanced player on the pitch. We talking about 3 to 5 seconds made the difference between T&T attacking and transitioning to defense off ah that wanting decision and a pass of about 10 to 15 meters that was not made, but should have been made because it was the pass to make. If I can "feel" the time it's taking for a player in an attacking movement to make a decisión, something ain't right.

At the risk of appearing to contradict myself, I totally agree with you. It is probably both more frequent and consequential in defense. But certainly occures in attack as well. We probably don't initially see it as switching off, maybe more as poor decision making. And both switching off and bad decisions cripple us up front.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on March 02, 2018, 04:44:03 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones nets his third goal (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6fj650) in seven games during SV Darmstadt’s 2-0 win over Dynamo Dresden
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: lefty on March 02, 2018, 05:28:57 PM
always said he was wasted at leftback
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on March 02, 2018, 08:32:48 PM
Looks like he's playing with more urgency than normal, his last 2 goals he finished aggressively.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 04, 2018, 05:58:51 PM
Looks like he's playing with more urgency than normal, his last 2 goals he finished aggressively.

I agree. There's definitely a noticeable sharpness. Would be interesting to hear his comments regarding pre-match activation in the 2. Bundesliga vs. MLS.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: andremartinsc on March 05, 2018, 05:51:39 AM
Florian Jungwirth, the German who plays for San Jose Earthquakes, recently said in an interview that he feels Bundesliga 2 is a weaker league than MLS. I think he has authority to say this since he played in literally every level of German football. I thought it'd be worth sharing this since Joevin made exactly that transition.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 05, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
At the same time, Huddersfield has taken at least one player from 2. Bundesliga to the Premier League (England). As a career move, this is better for JJ.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: andremartinsc on March 06, 2018, 06:16:53 AM
Yes, no doubt about that
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on March 08, 2018, 12:33:37 PM
WATCH: From Trinidad and Tobago to Finland to the United States to Germany. Joevin Jones’ career has taken a circuitous route, but was always accompanied by his Christian faith. In this interview at the St. Ludwig Catholic Church, Joevin talks about his connection to God and the support he receives from his family.

https://www.youtube.com/v/jIfIhXMZGYo
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 18, 2018, 07:02:47 AM
Anyone have a reliable link to view the match? First half is in progress.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on March 18, 2018, 07:31:13 AM
reddit for links

http://bundesliga-stream.live/5693-nurnberg-darmstadt-98-live-stream-online-ansehen.html
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Marcos on April 09, 2018, 10:41:36 AM
They missing Joevin bad in Seattle, which I predicted would happen. He was comically underrated in the MLS in my opinion.

https://www.sounderatheart.com/2018/4/4/17191872/nouhou-francis-left-back-sounders

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: dcs on April 10, 2018, 12:07:50 AM
Darmstadt still 2nd from bottom of the table but they just played the top 3 teams in the table and had 2 draws and a win against #1 Fortuna despite a 1st half red card.

They have some mid table games coming up so maybe they could get some points and climb out of the relegation zone.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on May 06, 2018, 08:15:53 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones scores a superb free-kick from 30 yards out (http://video.goalserve.com/2436600-2ahCCCG.mp4?_=1) to open the scoring in SV Darmstadt 98’s 3-0 win over Jahn Regensburg.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 07, 2018, 08:45:05 AM
Sweet freekick. Next week could see them climb to 4th from bottom if they win. Dynamo above them by 1 point has had inconsistent results and plays Union Berlin who are about 4 or 5 places above them.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 13, 2018, 01:14:17 PM
Congrats, Joevin.

Mission accomplished for Darmstadt in avoiding the drop. When JJ arrived at the club, it was already in peril of relegation. His contribution to keeping the club on the survival side of the ledger won't go unnoticed.

Next challenge.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on May 26, 2018, 10:45:29 AM
WATCH: Joevin Jones, Alvin Jones, and Kevon Williams talk to CNC3’s Ryan Bachoo about the upcoming First Annual Joevin Jones Fun Day.

https://www.youtube.com/v/c5q1ppXI-SY
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on May 26, 2018, 12:12:38 PM
 :salute: :applause: :chilling: :salute: :thumbsup: :wavetowel:
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 29, 2018, 08:23:42 AM
Other clubs sniffing around, hope he go up to Bundesliga next. No lateral movement. Up up up!!!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on May 29, 2018, 01:57:21 PM
Other clubs sniffing around, hope he go up to Bundesliga next. No lateral movement. Up up up!!!

Is he ready for that level doh ? won't want him to rush up there and only making bench or god forbid, get sent away or on loan. I think another year at this level would help, if he can manage/survive it, then onward and upward.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on May 29, 2018, 03:33:21 PM
Other clubs sniffing around, hope he go up to Bundesliga next. No lateral movement. Up up up!!!

Is he ready for that level doh ? won't want him to rush up there and only making bench or god forbid, get sent away or on loan. I think another year at this level would help, if he can manage/survive it, then onward and upward.

JJ is about 26. Is either he swim or sink.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 29, 2018, 04:46:49 PM
Talk done
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on May 29, 2018, 05:38:38 PM
Other clubs sniffing around, hope he go up to Bundesliga next. No lateral movement. Up up up!!!

Is he ready for that level doh ? won't want him to rush up there and only making bench or god forbid, get sent away or on loan. I think another year at this level would help, if he can manage/survive it, then onward and upward.

JJ is about 26. Is either he swim or sink.

27 in August.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 30, 2018, 09:06:26 AM
Maxg he could handle it. He is far more resilient than we assessed when he was not yet poised to take advantage of opportunities at his trial with Genoa (I believe it was) many moons ago.  In my eyes he could easily play on a newly promoted or even possibly mid-table club in Bundesliga. He is more than ready!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on May 30, 2018, 10:12:29 AM
Maxg he could handle it. He is far more resilient than we assessed when he was not yet poised to take advantage of opportunities at his trial with Genoa (I believe it was) many moons ago.  In my eyes he could easily play on a newly promoted or even possibly mid-table club in Bundesliga. He is more than ready!

It was at Udinese. I don't think our assessment was incorrect. He clearly wasn't ready to make that transition. Seattle is where he truly blossomed.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on May 30, 2018, 03:04:25 PM
Maxg he could handle it. He is far more resilient than we assessed when he was not yet poised to take advantage of opportunities at his trial with Genoa (I believe it was) many moons ago.  In my eyes he could easily play on a newly promoted or even possibly mid-table club in Bundesliga. He is more than ready!

It was at Udinese. I don't think our assessment was incorrect. He clearly wasn't ready to make that transition. Seattle is where he truly blossomed.
Although I agree with you there Tallman. I still thought the way he was utilized, in a more offensive role, his defensive capabilities waned a bit, made obvious when he represented us. Of course a Bundesliga position is possible for him now, yet it depends on what they are looking for and how utilized. If as a wing back defender, imo, he won't be ready yet. But he could be in the short term. Wings back at that level, must tackle back hard and still assist/score goals, no ? Now we not shooting for a best, but a place, so, let's see who some ppl think are best, and how does JJ compare to them. we can do a similar process for wing midfielders..
Some ppl opinion
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/10734320/the-top-10-wing-backs-in-europe-according-to-whoscored-com

wingers:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1720086-the-15-best-wingers-in-world-football#slide3
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on May 30, 2018, 07:28:50 PM
Trinis does call full backs wing backs and I ent ever sure which one we talking bout.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on May 31, 2018, 08:45:57 AM
Robben and Ribery gettin old. JJ could put een a shif for dem
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 31, 2018, 09:15:11 AM
Is he ready for that level doh ? won't want him to rush up there and only making bench or god forbid, get sent away or on loan. I think another year at this level would help, if he can manage/survive it, then onward and upward.

Generally very good advice, but it's "strike while the iron is hot" time. Let the buyer's market work it out organically.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 31, 2018, 01:02:49 PM
Getting "comfortable" with a reasonable degree of discomfort is arguable essential for success. If JJ wants to play his trade at the highest levels of ball and the opportunity arises, he should grab it and work hard until he's somewhat comfortable at that level
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 31, 2018, 01:28:35 PM
It was at Udinese. I don't think our assessment was incorrect. He clearly wasn't ready to make that transition. Seattle is where he truly blossomed.

Yeah I wasn't really clear there. Wasn't saying the assessment then was wrong. Was actually attempting to state that he is up for the challenge now as opposed to then.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on May 31, 2018, 01:36:58 PM
It was at Udinese. I don't think our assessment was incorrect. He clearly wasn't ready to make that transition. Seattle is where he truly blossomed.

Yeah I wasn't really clear there. Wasn't saying the assessment then was wrong. Was actually attempting to state that he is up for the challenge now as opposed to then.

Yeh, I think the major problem was that he lacked self confidence.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on June 26, 2018, 03:52:53 AM
Joevin heads back to Germany for Preseason Training.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Joevin Jones left for Germany on Monday to begin preseason training with his German Bundesliga II club SV Darmstadt 98 following a short off season stay in Trinidad and Tobago.

Jones will be anticipating the start of his first full season with the club which finished tenth in the league earlier this year which saw the Carnage-born player join the team in January.

“My first half a season you could say, was quite good in Germany,” Jones told TTFA Media.

“Coming away with four goals and two assists was pretty decent and I will now be looking to better than in the new season ahead. My goal as of now is to have a successful preseason, stay fit and healthy and just be ready for the new season,” Jones added.

With the World Cup in full swing, the former Seattle Sounders man says his desire for international football remains at a high and he is already thinking about the 2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup and Nations League.

“I think we dropped off a bit but I am really excited to be back on the international stage with my country again hopefully later this year. I always want to do my best for Trinidad and Tobago and now that we are into the Gold Cup next year that is our next big stage to look forward to,” Jones said. “So it will be a good period to get ourselves going again and hopefully we can get in a good preparation and go onto perform just as well as the past two Gold Cups or even better this time around.”

As to the World Cup, Joevin made it clear who his favourites for the title are.

“I’m backing Portugal. That’s my team. I like how they are fighting as a unit so far and of course they have the main man (Ronaldo) to do something special for them,” Jones added.

Jones, age 26, has eight goals in 69 appearance for T&T.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on August 17, 2018, 02:11:11 PM
playing now. looking good. nice crisp passes. was bun towards the end but they see it thru.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on August 17, 2018, 02:59:20 PM
playing now. looking good. nice crisp passes. was bun towards the end but they see it thru.

Who they played and what was the final score?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on August 17, 2018, 03:55:44 PM
playing now. looking good. nice crisp passes. was bun towards the end but they see it thru.

Who they played and what was the final score?

Magdeburg was the opponent. Darmstadt won 1-0 courtesy a penalty converted in the 3rd minute.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on September 15, 2018, 06:35:53 AM
sloppy marking by jones cause a goal (cause might be a strong word...but i'll keep it). they down 1-0 in the 70th. he got sub off. keep the focus joevin!

*edit* Darmstadt score a free kick in the 89th to squeeze out the draw).
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 21, 2018, 07:28:00 AM
JJ today delivered a goal worth 3 points, but that was eventually  discounted when the opponents equalized. Match ended 1-1.

Who will say that it didn't make sense not to go to Thailand? Not Darmstadt.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on October 21, 2018, 07:41:07 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones scores his first goal of the 2018/19 2. Bundesliga season in SV Darmstadt 98's 1-1 draw with Jahn Regensburg

https://www.youtube.com/v/vxC4vBPTOrM?start=12
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on October 26, 2018, 08:17:41 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones provides a pinpoint cross to setup SV Darmstadt 98's second goal in their 2-0 win over SpVgg Greuther Fürth

https://www.youtube.com/v/w1LC0L9YPJM?start=102
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on October 26, 2018, 10:37:00 PM
First class cross by JJ
Title: Joevin recommits to National Team
Post by: Tallman on October 31, 2018, 12:11:33 PM
Joevin recommits to National Team
TTFA Media


Trinidad and Tobago’s German-based professional Joevin Jones has sent an early signal to national team head coach Dennis Lawrence on his availability for the upcoming international friendly with Iran in Tehran.

Jones opted out of the previous friendly against Thailand at the last minute, forcing Lawrence to enter the match without a replacement, citing personal reasons for his withdrawal.

Jones is now ready to return to international duty for the T&T National Team which is preparing for the 2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup.

“Myself and Dennis had a long chat and we had a good communication as two professionals and grown men. He understands the situation I was in and where I’m coming from. I paid the price for it. Now I am fully committed to the National Senior Team and available for selection again,” Jones told TTFA Media on Wednesday.

Iran climbed three spots to #30 on the October FIFA World rankings. Both teams will meet at the Azadi Stadium in Tehran on November 15th. Iran deleted Bolivia 2-1 in their last friendly on October 16th while T&T is coming off a 2-0 win over United Arab Emirated and a 1-0 loss to Thailand.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on October 31, 2018, 05:47:34 PM
What price did he pay?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: ffisback on November 13, 2018, 12:59:47 AM
Joevin recommits to National Team
TTFA Media


Trinidad and Tobago’s German-based professional Joevin Jones has sent an early signal to national team head coach Dennis Lawrence on his availability for the upcoming international friendly with Iran in Tehran.

Jones opted out of the previous friendly against Thailand at the last minute, forcing Lawrence to enter the match without a replacement, citing personal reasons for his withdrawal.

Jones is now ready to return to international duty for the T&T National Team which is preparing for the 2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup.

“Myself and Dennis had a long chat and we had a good communication as two professionals and grown men. He understands the situation I was in and where I’m coming from. I paid the price for it. Now I am fully committed to the National Senior Team and available for selection again,” Jones told TTFA Media on Wednesday.

Iran climbed three spots to #30 on the October FIFA World rankings. Both teams will meet at the Azadi Stadium in Tehran on November 15th. Iran deleted Bolivia 2-1 in their last friendly on October 16th while T&T is coming off a 2-0 win over United Arab Emirated and a 1-0 loss to Thailand.
I hope this kid is not stupid to believe he can get away with the same crap he did in Seattle if he don't want to end up like another B Rahim he better put his carrier first instead of running back to TT to play in any stupid lil friendly  they call you to play for.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on November 13, 2018, 05:45:28 PM
Nah, Breds. I think this is a serious friendly match. Iran has very good football.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on May 07, 2019, 07:40:17 PM
Joevin Jones to return to Sounders after two seasons in Germany, reports say
By Jayda Evans (Seattle Times)


The Sounders are reportedly finalizing details to sign two players before the MLS transfer window closes Tuesday night: One deal would bring Joevin Jones back to the club, and the other would bring in rising Ecuadorian star Xavier Arreaga.

German publication Bild first reported Jones, who was playing for German second-division club Darmstadt, would be returning to Seattle. The Athletic also reported a $150,000 transfer fee to be paid in January 2020, as well as Arreaga’s signing. The Sounders declined to comment on the moves.

Jones, 27, played two seasons for the Sounders, including its 2016 championship run. The left midfielder from Trinidad and Tobago had three goals and 19 assists for Seattle.

Arreaga, 24, is currently playing for Barcelona, an Ecuadorian Serie A club team. The center back has good size and could help protect the Sounders against injuries along the back line, especially because Chad Marshall, a three-time MLS defender of the year, likely is nearing the end of his career.

Sounders coach Brian Schmetzer didn’t comment directly on the reports of the signings. But he did add insight to how players of Jones and Arreaga’s caliber could help Seattle wade through current injuries to key players and upcoming international competitions where six players could be called-up for the CONCACAF Gold Cup in June.

“If (Jones) comes back, it would be icing on the cake because we have a very talented team,” Schmetzer said. “If you want to win championships, why wouldn’t you want to have a couple of additional pieces?”

Seattle left winger Brad Smith is on loan from English Premier League team Bournemouth, and his agent was recently in Seattle to speak with Garth Lagerwey, the Sounders general manager and president of soccer, about Smith’s deal that is set to expire in June. The Sounders have Nouhou as an option at Smith’s position but could use another player.

The Sounders (5-1-4) returned to training Tuesday following a draw at Minnesota, the team’s third in as many games. Seattle hosts Houston (6-1-1) on Saturday at CenturyLink Field.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on May 07, 2019, 09:20:39 PM
smh. hopefully this is just a ploy to get better negotiations for a contract extansion or better offer from another club, cuz I can't believe Joevin hanging it up already! my player.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: chelsealife on May 08, 2019, 06:57:11 AM
If it's true it doesn't surprise me
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 08, 2019, 07:04:45 AM
Lateral move. Hope he get improved wages as a result nonetheless
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2019, 12:10:10 PM
smh. hopefully this is just a ploy to get better negotiations for a contract extansion or better offer from another club, cuz I can't believe Joevin hanging it up already! my player.

Unfortunately, that's not the case.

(If I can find it, I will be back to post something I noticed a lil while ago).
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2019, 12:14:52 PM
This isn't it ... but hold this in the meantime.

Quote
Some Bundesliga clubs showed interest last summer, but Jones stayed in Darmstadt. His homesickness struck him. Since his spouse is pregnant, Jones was torn inside. Darmstadt granted him special leave several times, in which Jones flew to Trinidad and Tobago. In the meantime, he brought his partner to Darmstadt. Now she is back home - pregnant. Alone Jones suffered in Darmstadt more and more.

The return to the MLS seems to be the best solution for Joevin Jones. Darmstadt collects a transfer. Jones can get started right now in Seattle. There the fans love him. He meets there again his Darmstadt buddy Terrence Boyd, who moved in the winter in the MLS to Toronto.

https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/fussball/joevin-jones-loest-vertrag-bei-darmstadt-98-auf-61739778.bild.html
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2019, 12:23:31 PM
Here it is (https://www.instagram.com/p/BpCvUAnA9ME/?taken-by=cristianroldan_), from October 17, 2018. See the 4th comment.

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13300725/skitch__12_.png)

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 08, 2019, 12:33:15 PM
Lateral move. Hope he get improved wages as a result nonetheless

Was it a lateral move when he went n the other direction?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 10, 2019, 07:49:10 AM
Lateral move. Hope he get improved wages as a result nonetheless

Was it a lateral move when he went n the other direction?

To me yeah. I think Sounders could compete with and beat many of those Bundisliga teams comfortably. MLS and Bundisliga 2 on par, in fact MLS might just be better.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Jefferz on May 11, 2019, 03:44:15 PM
Comfortably? I very much doubt, but I can see them competing. I think is a slightly downward move, but it doesn't mean that it isn't a good move for him all things considered.
Title: Variety and Versatility: How Joevin Jones makes the Sounders elite
Post by: Tallman on May 14, 2019, 03:49:12 PM
Variety and Versatility: How Joevin Jones makes the Sounders elite
By Casey Dunau (sounderatheart.com)


The Seattle Sounders made two surprise signings on the last day of the MLS Primary Transfer Window when they agreed to terms with centerback Xavier Arregea and left back/winger Joevin Jones. On paper, both of those signings are more long term than short term moves since the Sounders entered the season with what many believed to be the deepest left back and center back pools in MLS. In reality, both signings actually address immediate needs for the Sounders, though it should be noted that neither Arregea nor Jones are likely to be fully available until mid-summer.

For the Arregea signing, the pressing need to improve centerback depth became apparent when Chad Marshall missed the first LAFC match and the Sounders were summarily picked apart through the middle of the field during a 4-1 thrashing at the hands of a Western Conference rival. While backup centerback Roman Torres has played significantly better in his last couple starts, the continued injury problems for Marshall as well as his and Torres’ ages made finding another centerback piece sooner rather than later a priority.

How the Jones signing helps the team immediately is more complicated, but also potentially more dramatic. Here’s why:

Jones the fullback
Neither Brad Smith nor Nouhou have disappointed so far this season. Smith has put an iron grip on the starting position thanks to excellent offensive play (three assists, 1.1 key passes per game, and he’s an integral part of the best left-side combination trio in the league between him, Victor Rodriguez, and Nico Lodeiro). Nouhou, though not given many chances, has put in one solid start and a handful of decent sub appearances, two of which helped the Sounders preserve nervy 1-0 leads.

Still, signing Jones as a fullback makes sense for multiple reasons, the most obvious being that the Sounders may not get a deal done to sign Smith when his loan from Bournemouth ends this summer.

But why sign a TAM left back as only a potential replacement if Smith leaves when the team already has an exciting young left back waiting in the wings? Because the Sounders play fundamentally different soccer when Nouhou is in the match. In 3,744 minutes with the Sounders, Nouhou has yet to record an assist. Brad Smith has four assists in 1,375 minutes with the Sounders while Joevin Jones has 12 assists in 4,764 minutes as a left back for the Sounders (whoscored credits Jones with an additional assist while playing left mid for the team).

Could Nouhou’s offensive efficiency continue to develop with more minutes on the field? Absolutely. Are the Sounders willing to take that risk during what GM Garth Lagerwey has openly called their “championship window”? Tougher to say.

If the Sounders don’t see Nouhou as a starting-caliber left back in their system this season, then it makes sense to sign Jones as cover should Smith go down to injury or head back to England this summer. Furthermore, signing Jones gives Lagerwey almost unprecedented negotiating leverage for an MLS team heading into the summer transfer window as they now have three left backs capable of playing at or near an all-star level.

At a time where young MLS talents are being sold for more money than ever before, setting yourself up to sell a 21-year-old prospect with nearly 4,000 first team minutes and plenty of interest from abroad makes a lot of sense. Nouhou may not fit perfectly into the Sounders’ very attacking outside back mold, but there are lots of teams around the world who would pay for a left back with a high attacking ceiling who is already a lockdown defender.

Jones the winger
But for those who don’t want to see Nouhou go, hope remains. That’s because at this point in his career, Jones is just as much a winger as he is a left back. The versatile crossing guru played in the midfield all last season for SV Darmstadt 98. That means that even if Smith signs a new contract with the Sounders this season, Nouhou could remain the No. 2 left back on the depth chart should the Sounders prefer Jones as an attacker, which based on comments from both Lagerwey and head coach Brian Schmetzer, seems likely.

Even better for Nouhou is that his style of play suits lining up behind Jones much more than any of the Sounders’ other attacking midfielders. That’s because Jones will be the only left-footed winger with the pace to consistently get behind opposing defenses on the roster. With Jones being able to stretch the field on his own, the pressure for Nouhou to provide an offensive thrust down the left goes way down. That doesn’t mean the young left back wouldn’t be able to get forward so much as it means that when he does get forward, it would be as a sort of counter punch to catch defenses off guard when Jones stays back rather than working as the third man in an intricately combining triangle as Smith does with Rodríguez and Lodeiro.

All that’s to say that even if Smith and Nouhou stay, Jones’ signing doesn’t create the left back logjam one might expect. Moreover, Jones gives the midfield the type of depth needed to take the team to the next level.

Of course, bolstering the midfield depth may feel redundant since the Sounders already have above-average quality on their bench in the midfield. After all, Harry Shipp can keep possession nearly as well as anybody and can also find a killer final pass, making him ideal for salting away games or slotting in for Rodriguez or Lodeiro as a fill-in starter. Additionally, Handwalla Bwana has the type of dribbling ability that can break a game open if the team needs individual magic to unlock their opponents.

But what if Jordan Morris is out? And what if the Sounders want to stretch their opponent with pace and/or provide left-footed service out of the midfield? Well, as became evident over the stretch of matches in which Morris played up top, there weren’t a ton of great options — until now.

The brilliance of the Jones signing is not that he brings more quality to the midfield. It’s that he brings more variety to that quality. If the Sounders want to play power soccer and attack with vicious speed down the wings, they can play Jones and Morris in the midfield. If they want to go full tiki-taka, they can play Rodrgiuez and Shipp. If they want a hybrid, they can mix and match in whatever way floats their boat.

That’s the type of diversity in attack that makes MLS Cup teams, or Supporters’ Shield teams, or double-, or even treble-winning teams. That’s what the ever-increasing amounts of TAM in MLS has made possible, and that’s who the Sounders have become. The championship window is now and this makes the Sounders perfectly capable of climbing through.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on May 16, 2019, 02:51:42 PM
Comfortably? I very much doubt, but I can see them competing. I think is a slightly downward move, but it doesn't mean that it isn't a good move for him all things considered.

Watch a few games and I bet yuh think different. In form Sounders beating most of those teams with no problem
Title: Sounders fullback Joevin Jones happy to be back in Seattle
Post by: Tallman on May 31, 2019, 06:35:00 AM
Sounders fullback Joevin Jones happy to be back in Seattle, ready to contribute immediately
By Joseph Mondello (SoundersFC.com)


There was a familiar face at Starfire Sports on Thursday, as Joevin Jones trained with his teammates for the first time since he rejoined the Seattle Sounders on May 8.

Jones, who spent two seasons with the Sounders before joining SV Darmstadt in Germany’s 2. Bundesliga, landed in Seattle on Wednesday and was eager to reunite with the club.

“It feels great to be back home,” said Jones. “I feel welcome from the fans and the coaching staff, and I’m happy to be back.”

Jones spent the majority of his first two MLS campaigns — the first with the Chicago Fire in 2015 and the second with the Sounders in 2016 — as a buccaneering fullback, pushing forward into the attack and creating chances with his technical combination play. The Trinidad and Tobago international enjoyed a breakout season in 2017, tallying 11 assists while routinely playing as a left winger en route to a second consecutive MLS Cup appearance.

Those performances garnered interest from Europe, opening a professional pathway he had craved ever since he signed his first contract with W Connection in his home country.

“As a kid, I always wanted to play in Europe,” he said. “So, when I got the chance to go, and I got the opportunity, I took it. I went and I showed what I can do.”

After two seasons in Germany, during which he tallied six goals and helped Darmstadt stave off relegation, Jones jumped at the chance to return to Seattle. Head Coach Brian Schmetzer, who maintained a strong relationship with Jones when he moved abroad, is thrilled to have his former player bolster an already strong Sounders First Team.

“He’s a funny kid,” said Schmetzer. “He’s got a good personality. He’s a talented, talented soccer player. So, I’m happy to have him back.”

The skill set and versatility that Jones brings to the table are a welcome addition, as they provide Schmetzer with further tactical flexibility. Nominally a left back, Jones can line up on the left or right side of Seattle’s three-man attacking midfield as well.

Beyond the formational variance, Jones’ technical acumen and patience on the ball will be critical when the Sounders seek to breakdown bunkered opponents through sustained possession.

“He’s clean on the ball, keeps possession and he runs fast, but he doesn’t look like he’s running fast,” added Schmetzer.

One of the most difficult aspects of integrating a new signing into a team is establishing chemistry with his teammates, on and off the pitch. But with the likes of Román Torres, Cristian Roldan, Stefan Frei, Víctor Rodríguez and Nouhou, there are plenty of players who Jones knows well from his tenure in the Pacific Northwest. Yes, the tactics have changed since 2017, but Jones possesses the requisite skill and soccer intelligence to hit the ground running in Rave Green.

“I can see from the first day [of training] that it’s a little bit different,” said Jones. “But I’m a smart player, so I will get it right in time.”

According to player and coach, Jones could be available for Seattle’s away match against FC Dallas on Saturday (5 p.m. PT; JOEtv, YouTube TV, Univsion-Seattle, 950 KJR AM, El Rey 1360 AM)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on June 03, 2019, 07:33:34 AM
He rejoined since May 8?? I guess I was sleeping.


From the Darmstadt website:
 (http://"https://www.sv98.de/home/lilien/aktuelles/details/news/joevin-jones-wechselt-zurueck-nach-seattle/?tx_news_pi1%5Bcontroller%5D=News&tx_news_pi1%5Baction%5D=detail&cHash=aacc706c82658d35a2e1a25d56c36ea9")

Joevin Jones will not run for the SV 98 in the future. The 27-year-old moves to Seattle Sounders FC with immediate effect. About the separation modalities, both clubs agreed silence.

Jones returns to his former club in Major League Soccer, for which he had already been active, before joining the lilies in January 2018 on a free transfer. During his time in South Hesse, the left foot played 44 second division matches for the SV 98, in which he scored 6 goals and 4 assists. Also in the DFB Cup Jones ran in two games.

The SV 98 thanks Joevin Jones for its commitment and wishes him every success in the upcoming tasks with his new team.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on June 06, 2019, 07:53:49 AM
Did anyone see JJ play last night? Only saw part of the game, there was a guy who looked like him, wearing his number, the lineup even said it was him..but the guy wasn’t playing like the JJ we loved, the lilbit I see.. so I switch to ‘We the North ‘
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on June 06, 2019, 08:40:25 AM
Did anyone see JJ play last night? Only saw part of the game, there was a guy who looked like him, wearing his number, the lineup even said it was him..but the guy wasn’t playing like the JJ we loved, the lilbit I see.. so I switch to ‘We the North ‘

 :)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on July 14, 2019, 02:21:37 PM
https://www.sounderatheart.com/2019/7/6/20684581/joevin-jones-absent-from-seattle-sounders-lineup-due-to-birth-of-first-child
Not back yet
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on August 12, 2019, 06:59:05 PM
WATCH: Within six minutes of his introduction, Joevin Jones supplies the cross that leads to Seattle Sounders FC's second goal during a 3-3 draw with New England Revolution.

https://www.youtube.com/v/nSbsCu6K9Fg?start=122
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Cocorite on October 29, 2019, 08:52:51 PM
Is Joven Jones well? Since he returned to Sounders he hasn't quite looked himself.

I see he is now playing (R) Winger for Sounders.

Dennis bringing him off the bench an' ting.

Wais d scene wit him?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on October 30, 2019, 02:08:20 AM
Is Joven Jones well? Since he returned to Sounders he hasn't quite looked himself.

I see he is now playing (R) Winger for Sounders.

Dennis bringing him off the bench an' ting.

Wais d scene wit him?
I’ve seen Kenwyne say recently that Joevin doesn’t actually enjoy football.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on October 31, 2019, 01:45:16 AM
Jones' Seattle Sounders lifts MLS Conf. title.
T&T Guardian Reports.


T&T se­nior men's foot­baller Jo­evin Jones and the Seat­tle Sounders are head­ing to the US Ma­jor League Soc­cer Cup for the third time in four years, as a dy­nam­ic per­for­mance from Raul Ruidi­az pow­ered a 3-1 win over top-seed­ed LA FC at Banc of Cal­i­for­nia Sta­di­um in the West­ern Con­fer­ence Fi­nal on Tues­day night.

It was on­ly the sec­ond home loss suf­fered by LAFC in 2019.

Seat­tle scored three unan­swered goals af­ter LAFC opened a 1-0 lead in the 17th minute via mid­field­er Ed­uard At­ues­ta when the Colom­bian curled a right-foot­ed free-kick past goal­keep­er Ste­fan Frei af­ter Car­los Vela was fouled near the top of the 18-yard box,

But then the Sounders’ resur­gence be­gan, start­ing in the 22nd minute via Ruidi­az. Drift­ing off the back shoul­der of LAFC cen­tre back Ed­die Se­gu­ra, the Pe­ru­vian strik­er took ad­van­tage of a for­tu­itous bounce and fired a quick strike in­side the near post.

Af­ter equal­iz­ing, Seat­tle quick­ly made it 2-1 in the 26th minute via Nico­las Lodeiro, who scored in his sec­ond straight game in the Au­di 2019 MLS Cup Play­offs af­ter re­ceiv­ing a pass from the Care­nage-born Jones, from on the right side who was picked out Ruidi­az who start­ed a counter-at­tack, to fire home a pre­cise fin­ish past goal­keep­er Tyler Miller.

LAFC chased, but the Sounders who re­placed Jones with Jor­dan Delem in the 64th tacked on an­oth­er to take a 3-1 lead a few sec­onds lat­er via Ruidi­az.

A poor clear­ance from LAFC found Lodeiro out wide, who slipped a ball cen­tral­ly for the Pe­ru­vian. Ruidi­az then found his brace, again ri­fling home in­side the post.

LAFC, who ac­cu­mu­lat­ed more points than any team in MLS his­to­ry (72 points) dur­ing the reg­u­lar sea­son, were dealt a blow when mid­field­er Latif Bless­ing was forced off through in­jury. In came Mark-An­tho­ny Kaye, who made his first 2019 post­sea­son ap­pear­ance af­ter pick­ing up a ham­string strain on in­ter­na­tion­al du­ty with Cana­da.

The Black and Gold al­so had a hand­ful of penal­ty kick ap­peals in both halves, but head ref­er­ee Jair Mar­ru­fo didn’t point to the spot.

In the fi­nal, Seat­tle Sounders will come up against the win­ner of the East­ern Con­fer­ence Fi­nal which was played last night be­tween At­lanta and Toron­to FC.

In the fi­nal, Seat­tle will ei­ther trav­el to face At­lanta Unit­ed or they will host Toron­to FC for the league ti­tle on No­vem­ber 10.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on November 09, 2019, 10:00:54 AM
WATCH: Seattle Sounders FC defender Joevin Jones speaks to media following training on playing in his third MLS Cup Final.

https://www.youtube.com/v/8ibaSYCh1Y0
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: pull stones on November 10, 2019, 06:32:10 AM
Thought i saw a picture of jovin in the newspapers training with the national team at the hasley crawford, which is strange......doesn’t he have a cup final today in Seattle?
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Trini _2026 on November 10, 2019, 11:28:56 AM
WATCH: Seattle Sounders FC defender Joevin Jones speaks to media following training on playing in his third MLS Cup Final.

https://www.youtube.com/v/8ibaSYCh1Y0
Thought i saw a picture of jovin in the newspapers training with the national team at the hasley crawford, which is strange......doesn’t he have a cup final today in Seattle?

he would be on the bench for the next game
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on November 10, 2019, 02:53:36 PM
JJ should be on the bench for Seattle too.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Peong on November 10, 2019, 03:52:58 PM
Looks like another MLS title for JJ.
I hope I eh blight dem, 5 mins left
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on November 10, 2019, 07:39:03 PM
First half  JJ did nothing. Toronto balled Seattle. He was playing on the right side like a forward and coming back to help. But I can't tell you what he did that was significant. Second half he was at left back and he was much better. But the better playing side loss. But the goal of the game is to score goals. TO did not. Congrats Seattle and JJ.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on September 11, 2020, 06:16:53 AM
WATCH: Joevin Jones scores two goals as Seattle Sounders inflict a 7-1 mauling on San Jose Earthquakes. Jones also contributed with an assist.

https://www.youtube.com/v/ssR5kSg5y4k

https://www.youtube.com/v/aNVrrSQK-ME
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on September 12, 2020, 10:39:43 AM
WATCH: Joevin Jones gives his reactions to Seattle Sounders FC's 7-1 win over San Jose Earthquakes in Major League Soccer. He talks about his life as a father, playing during the Pandemic and his take on T&T's Concacaf World Cup qualifying draw.

https://www.youtube.com/v/e5xCT1ol93k
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 08, 2020, 05:41:36 AM
There have been a couple tackles during this first half that made me grimace in concern for Molino.

Yep, especially knowing his history.

But he is a very intelligent player. . .he has learned a lot from them.

I'm wondering what is Jones' role. I mean what did the coach tell him. Where is his creativity? Several times it seemed beter to take on his man instead of forcing a pass,

Seems they were looking to generate the opportunity from outside.

Alright, Coco yuh win. I will risk back to back weeks of you dragging us into another "international incident".  ;D

Although I sense that they lacked another body (hence playing out rather than in) and coordination/timing in the box, knowing his individual quality, it's always difficult when you don't see him in an expressive mode. Might have been his own leash.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Cocorite on December 08, 2020, 01:32:46 PM
There have been a couple tackles during this first half that made me grimace in concern for Molino.

Yep, especially knowing his history.

But he is a very intelligent player. . .he has learned a lot from them.

I'm wondering what is Jones' role. I mean what did the coach tell him. Where is his creativity? Several times it seemed beter to take on his man instead of forcing a pass,

Seems they were looking to generate the opportunity from outside.

Alright, Coco yuh win. I will risk back to back weeks of you dragging us into another "international incident". ;D

Although I sense that they lacked another body (hence playing out rather than in) and coordination/timing in the box, knowing his individual quality, it's always difficult when you don't see him in an expressive mode. Might have been his own leash.

Nah ah doh think we have to worry about that here.  ;D

An’ yuh doh have tuh bite eh. But last night was the most fluid and energized I’ve seen JJ play in a while.

He hasn’t been the player we know he could be. That’s also what sparked the thought of the coach’s instructions. But I do see it may just as well be his own delimitations for the self-same reasons.

BTW my team lost last night. I wanted Minn to advance and Molino to put his stamp on the league.
Title: Joevin Jones eager to lift MLS Cup
Post by: Tallman on December 11, 2020, 09:02:30 AM
Joevin Jones eager to lift MLS Cup
By Jonathan Ramnansingh (T&T Newsday)


T&T’s Joevin Jones is intent on guiding the Seattle Sounders to their third Audi Major League Soccer (MLS) Cup title in four years when they square off against Columbus Crew in the 2020 final on Sunday.

The 29-year old midfielder began his career with the Sounders in 2016 and played an integral role in capturing the MLS Cup in his debut year and then once more in 2019.

Seattle was unable to defend the crown in 2017 and finished as runners-up behind winners Toronto FC. The following year they were eliminated in the quarter-final round.

After defeating his compatriot Kevin Molino’s Minnesota United 3-2 in a Western Conference final come-from-behind thriller on Monday, Jones believes his team has what it takes to retain the MLS Cup. This crucial win also saw Seattle extend its home postseason winning streak to 15 games, an MLS record.

Heading into Sunday’s title match, Jones is optimistic the Sounders can successfully defend the trophy.

“The atmosphere is great around the team. We’re confident going into the final. We had a good run. Although it was a rollercoaster year for us, we pushed through to get to the final. We overcame many things and it’s an honour to be in the final again.

“As players and as a club we all set our goals for this season and this is all we wanted: to be part of history again and to win another cup.”

Reflecting on his recent competitive reunion with former Mucurapo Secondary player Molino, Jones said he was pleased to share the pitch once more with his fellow countryman.

Although elated to have progressed to the cup final for a second consecutive year, the Seattle star commended Minnesota on their historic run of form. This was the first year the club reached the MLS Cup Playoffs since its entry two years ago.

“It was a tough match and Minnesota played well. They had a good run, with some ups and downs this year – particularly the pandemic and then the death of George Floyd there. Reaching this far was historic and meant a lot for the city and the club. It was a good but difficult game,” he added.

By advancing to the 2020 MLS Cup, Seattle joined DC United as the only clubs in MLS history to make four finals in a five-season span.

Jones believes his presence, likewise Molino and others on the international pro circuit, have an opportunity to use their experience and professions as examples to help inspire young and upcoming T&T-based footballers.

His pro career began with domestic club W Connection where he made his first-team debut in 2009, at 17. During his time, Jones won the T&T Pro League title twice and the FA Trophy in 2013–14.

After his fourth season with W Connection, in 2014, he was loaned to Finnish club HJK Helsinki. Jones then moved to MLS side Chicago Fire for the 2015 season, before spending the 2016 and 2017 seasons with Seattle Sounders FC.

He joined German second division Bundesliga club Darmstadt in January 2018 but later returned to Seattle in May 2019.

“I think it’s important to let people know where I come from. To be on this big stage is a blessing and a showing for our country.

“It’s just to let people know that we have good talent in Trinidad and Tobago and make the passageway easier for more Trinbagonians to get in the league in the US and other parts of the world,” he said.

Additionally, before the start of Monday’s western conference final, both Jones and Molino posted a photo on social media with the pair holding jerseys with the words: “Protect our women and children. Please T&T!”

The gesture came after the murder of 18-year-old Ashanti Riley last week sparked a national outcry for justice and an end to violence against women. Riley left her San Juan home last Sunday to visit her grandmother but went missing after getting into a PH taxi. She was found dead in Santa Cruz on Friday.

When asked what inspired the move, Jones replied, “This was a strong message to our country about the amount of missing people, especially the girls. We did it to put some pressure on the evil people out there. It’s time to stop this madness.”

For 2020, the murders of 45 women have been reported in T&T.
Title: Joevin Jones calls for transparency in T&T football
Post by: Tallman on December 14, 2020, 01:48:16 PM
Joevin Jones calls for transparency in T&T football
By Jonathan Ramnanansingh (T&T Newsday)


IF T&T’s football administrators are unable to run a transparent and structured local sporting association, the nation’s future generation of footballers, ultimately, stands to be the biggest loser.

This was the sentiment shared by national footballer Joevin Jones, who called on the FIFA-sanctioned normalisation committee to help clean up the many administrative errors which have plagued local football for the past ten years.

The 29-year-old plays with Major League Soccer (MLS) club Seattle Sounders and concluded his 2020 season with a 3-0 defeat to Columbus City in the MLS Cup final on Saturday.

Speaking to the midfielder before the Cup final, Jones was displeased with the recent negative publicity directed on the T&T Football Association (TTFA) during its eight-month legal battle with the sport’s governing body FIFA.

In March, FIFA removed the TTFA executive, headed by William Wallace, and implemented a normalisation committee, chaired by Robert Hadad, because of the mounting debts by the local governing body.

FIFA suspended T&T from international football in September, after Wallace and his executive challenged their removal in the local High Court, instead of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Switzerland. It lifted the suspension in November after Wallace withdrew all legal claims against the governing body.

“We only want to make things better for the upcoming players. The future is key. We don’t want the younger guys coming in and we have this same problem we had for over a decade. It wasn’t right. But now is the perfect time for those in power to right the wrongs,” he said.

During the legal tussle, which spanned the majority of 2020, Jones and other US-based professionals such as compatriot Kevin Molino followed the theatrics virtually. The latter went as far as to say that he would hang up his boots if the TTFA does not get its house in order before the start of the Concacaf World Cup qualifiers in March 2021.

Jones vented similar frustration and stated that Molino’s statement is a reflection of the sadness and pain foreign-based nationals face when competing abroad without proper guidance from their own local association.

The Sounders representative admitted he was particularly concerned the ban would not be lifted and T&T would be omitted from pursuing its 2022 World Cup qualification campaign. He has, however, played in two previous Youth World Cups, but never at the international level.

“Molino’s right because at the end of the day we (seniors) only have a few years left (to play). I was concerned about the upcoming games. We have a great chance to get back into the World Cup. Not playing for your country is painful.

“When you see other players go home to play international football, as players we always love to represent our country, and it will be embarrassing if we can’t fix the wrongs that have us in this position today,” Jones added.

As a veteran, Jones, like Molino and other seasoned professionals, next year’s qualifiers serve as their last chance to qualify for the FIFA World Cup.

The Seattle man affirmed T&T’s football will only progress if the players, administration, coaching staff and those involved deliver a comprehensive and collective effort.

“It’s a collective effort. I think the situation with the local guys right now is tough amid the restrictions. There’s only a few of us outside the country and we just have to work hard, be committed to the national team and make sure we’re on one page,” he concluded.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: AZZURRI on December 15, 2020, 06:47:02 PM
Just saw that Joevin got released from the Sounders

Hope he bounces back soon.
Think he can still add a lot to a team's roster as a free agent signing

https://www.soundersfc.com/post/2020/12/14/sounders-fc-announces-roster-decisions-conclude-2020-season

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Joevin given failing grade
T&T Express Reports.


Joevin Jones was given a failing grade of just four for his performance in the 2020 MLS Cup final in which his Seattle Sounders club was defeated 3-0 by Columbus Crew.

Jones, 29, gave an indifferent first-half performance before being substituted with his team trailing 2-0. With Jones done, Seattle improved significantly in the second half, before conceding a third on the counter-attack.

However, in the press conference following his team’s defeat in the final, Seattle coach Brian Schmetzer resisted all attempts to blame individual players for the defeat.

“I absolutely felt this game was a failure. This individual game was not a good performance by our club and not up to the standard that we set for ourselves...that I set for myself. It is my job as a coach to make sure that the players are prepared, that they had the tools to be successful, and so this performance was not a good performance from the Seattle Sounders,” he said.

“But I would circle back to say that the club, the team, did come back through some adversity and made it into another final back to back, which is very hard to do in a league like MLS with parity, which is very challenging. So that is one good accomplishment which came out of this year.”

Several media questions were posed on the lack of performance from the experienced players, Jones among them. Specific questions were posed to his decision to replace Jones and Cameroonian Nouhou Tolo at the half. However, the Seattle coach again resisted attempts to lay blame at his players’ feet.

Meanwhile, Seattle Sounders FC today announced that it is exercising the 2021 contract options of several players, putting the club’s roster at 19 contracted players heading into next season. Sounders FC has declined the contract options for eight of their players including Joevin Jones.

2019 - He’s back! Top five Joevin Jones moments with Seattle Sounders (https://www.soundersfc.com/post/2019/05/08/he-s-back-top-five-joevin-jones-moments-seattle-sounders)

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on December 15, 2020, 07:47:15 PM
Just saw that Joevin got released from the Sounders

Hope he bounces back soon.
Think he can still add a lot to a team's roster as a free agent signing

https://www.soundersfc.com/post/2020/12/14/sounders-fc-announces-roster-decisions-conclude-2020-season

Keep in mind that he would be taking up an international slot.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: maxg on December 16, 2020, 11:58:00 AM
Really not surprised. The man have talent for sure, however at times he looks kinda unimpressed as well as unimpressive. Saw it for awhile, even with National service. I can’t speak fo him, but the impression I get is ‘been there, done that, don’t have to do it again’.  Except at that level and ppl money, yuh better do it again even better. They would go for a slightly lesser player with more heart and commitment(read zest) as anybody would any day.
If a new team picks him up early, I feel we may see the potential once again, for how long ? Again that’s up to JJ. Come on JJ, give 5 more years of all out drive, 25 years + from now, the family will have a few cents to help out your younguns and you won’t have to dwell on how great you might have been. Right now physically you good, I challenge you to next level.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: 100% Barataria on December 16, 2020, 06:47:40 PM
It's really a shame when u consider he was doing well at Darnstadt in Bundesliga 2....
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 16, 2020, 07:43:11 PM
He should go Minnesota. They need to extend their roster.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tiresais on December 17, 2020, 02:31:47 AM
He's always had the talent- could see that when he was st W Connection - he needs the mentality to progress. With the right attitude he can open doors currently shut to him
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: 100% Barataria on December 17, 2020, 08:03:03 AM
That's the biggest difference between him and many others versus Dwight, Russell etc....anytime your discomfort with growth gets the better of you, you stop growing
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: ABTrini on December 17, 2020, 08:30:46 AM
That's the biggest difference between him and many others versus Dwight, Russell etc....anytime your discomfort with growth gets the better of you, you stop growing

I think in my opinion this is what plagues our national players- it's not the potential skill level but morethe drive the professional mental toughness along with the physicality,

As much as I hate to compare within the region and hate to admit, Jamaican athletes eludes that toughness that national pride the physicality and drive. The Haitians . The Cubans- our players are too soft.

There were intercollegiate days in the70's where you playing for the crowd- dribbling - beatsin up on men- putting on the show but our footballers once they had North South there was a pride a drive for supremacy - back then when you made the national team is like players fighting to represent this little island - today players seem to be lured to the contracts and is like once they make it- the national team has to come begging for them to represent - this attitude will not bode well for professional teams - when you are a marginal player you are despincible- there are many others waiting in the wings-
Players from our soil need to be fighting and proving each game that they belong-
Oh well there is always the Indian league- Good taste of humble pie to get you  longing  for steak.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on December 18, 2020, 08:18:20 AM
He should go Minnesota. They need to extend their roster.

Rumor has it that Houston Dynamo and Columbus Crew are interested in his services.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 18, 2020, 11:08:02 AM
Hope it doh turn into ah merry-go-round.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tiresais on December 18, 2020, 01:17:05 PM
He needs to find a team that'll pick him.every week and invest in him. Challenge, good training and a good coach can do wonders for him
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: soccerman on December 18, 2020, 04:09:04 PM
He should go Minnesota. They need to extend their roster.

Rumor has it that Houston Dynamo and Columbus Crew are interested in his services.

TM is the Adam Schefter of the T&T pro's during free agency :notworthy:
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on March 04, 2021, 06:39:53 PM
Joevin: Opening win important.
T&T Express Reports.


JOEVIN JONES, the former United-States-based Major League Soccer (MLS) player believes that Trinidad and Tobago need victory from their opening 2022 Qatar FIFA World Cup qualifier and he is putting everything in to help achieve such.

T&T play their opening two qualifiers on the road, against Guyana in the Dominican Republic on March 25, before traveling to Puerto Rico to face the host country on March 28.

“I think we can go out there and look for the three points to get a win in our first game,” Jones stated, following a training session at Hasely Crawford featuring local and USA-based footballers.

“I think we really focused right now,” added Jones. “Looking forward to the upcoming days and the hard work and the upcoming game against Guyana.”

Jones, 29, is currently out of contract after spending the last six years with clubs in Finland, the USA and Germany. He also believes that Guyana will be tougher than in the past, due to the presence of several UK-born players in their squad.

“I think if you look back at the Gold Cup against Guyana it was not an easy match for us, they gave us a run,” said Jones. “I think it will be difficult because we might be missing some players but also we have some local talent here that we can go out and get the job done.”

Also without a club after spending much of last season on the bench for Real Salt Lake, younger brother Alvin Jones is impressed by the attitude shown by brother Joevin in training.

“He looked very focused right now. His professionalism is spreading throughout the team. Other guys are feeding off of it and that is the kind of thing we need right now to spread around the team because we have three weeks,” Alvin stated.

Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Flex on March 09, 2021, 05:36:06 PM
T&T's Jones linked to Beckham's Inter Miami.
By Joel Bailey (T&T Newsday).


EXPERIENCED T&T midfielder Joevin Jones is being linked to a deal with Major League Soccer (MLS) club Inter Miami, three months after his deal with MLS Cup title-holders Seattle Sounders FC came to an end.

Inter Miami, owned by former England captain David Beckham, recently appointed Beckham's ex-England and Manchester United teammate Phil Neville as the team coach.

According to a report on the website reportdoor.com, Jones, who can play either as a winger, central midfielder or left-back, is being considered by Inter Miami ahead of the 2021 MLS season.

The Florida-based club has been in talks with West Brom left back Kieran Gibbs, who played ten years for Arsenal, but he might not be available until the summer transfer window.

Title: Inter Miami CF signs Joevin Jones
Post by: Tallman on March 11, 2021, 02:23:39 PM
Inter Miami CF signs Joevin Jones
Inter Miami CF Communications Department


Inter Miami CF announced today that it has signed two-time MLS Cup and four-time MLS Western Conference champion Joevin Jones to a two-year contract. The versatile MLS veteran and Trinidad and Tobago international, who can play as a left back and left midfielder, joins the Club as a free agent after four seasons with the Seattle Sounders FC.

“Joevin is a talented player with great title-winning MLS experience who can feature in a number of positions” said Chris Henderson, Inter Miami CF Chief Soccer Officer and Sporting Director. “I know Joevin well from my time in Seattle, he has the technical ability to change games and will be a good fit with us at Inter Miami.”

Jones, 29, joined the Sounders in Jan. 2016 and spent four seasons with the club over two stints, winning the MLS Cup in 2016 and 2019, and the Western Conference in 2016, 2017, 2019, and 2020. He started in all four MLS Cup finals, scoring his penalty in the title-clinching penalty shootout of 2016.

Last season, the Carenage, Trinidad and Tobago native played a key role in helping the Sounders FC reach the 2020 MLS Cup, featuring in a defense that conceded the least goals in the Western Conference, making 17 total appearances, 14 of them starts - including the final - and registering two goals and three assists. The versatile wide player also put together a standout campaign in 2017 in which he registered 11 regular season assists and two postseason assists en route to the MLS Cup final. Over both stints in Seattle, Jones made 93 regular season appearances, 76 of them starts, and tallied five goals and 19 assists. 

After his stellar 2017 season Jones accepted a move to SV Darmstadt 98, competing in the 2. Bundesliga. He officially joined the club in Jan. 2018 and went on to make 46 appearances for the team, scoring six goals and tallying four assists, before returning to Seattle during the 2019 season.

Prior to joining Seattle, Jones made stops in Chicago, Finland and his native Trinidad and Tobago. He spent one season with the Chicago Fire (2015), appearing in 28 matches. Before that, he spent time on loan with HJK Helsinki (2014) in Finland, where he helped the team win the Veikkausliiga. Jones began his career with W Connection FC in Trinidad and Tobago, rising through the youth ranks and eventually featuring for the first team from 2009 to 2014.

Jones has also featured prominently on the international stage, making 76 appearances for the Trinidad and Tobago senior national team. He has totaled nine goals and seven assists for the Soca Warriors, featuring in several competitive competitions such as the Gold Cup, Caribbean Cup, Concacaf Nations League and international tournament qualifiers.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on March 11, 2021, 06:29:01 PM
Time to celebrate :cheers:  :wavetowel:
I am happy and relieved for "my player" .. (all of them are my players but something about Joevin epitomizes Trini football for me .. like Carlos Edwards before him). I will leave it there for now. Give thanks!
Title: Jones on signing: "I'm here to bring the experience"
Post by: Tallman on March 11, 2021, 06:54:21 PM
Jones on signing: "I'm here to bring the experience"
Inter Miami CF Communications Department


Inter Miami announced the signing of versatile two-time MLS Cup champion and four-time Western Conference Champion Joevin Jones. The left back/midfielder and Trinidad and Tobago international is looking forward to arriving in South Florida and getting started with the Club.

“I’m very excited. Inter Miami is a big club, the people behind it are awesome. I’m excited to join and I can’t wait to be there,” said Jones.

Jones’ five-year MLS career has seen him reach the MLS Cup finals on four occasions. While he knows that winning is a team exercise, he also knows what it takes to reach that level and will bring that experience with him to Inter Miami.

“I think my quality has helped make me successful, but it wasn’t just me alone, it was the players around me. They helped me to be a better player and I helped them to be better players. In Seattle, we had a good run, so I know what it’s like to reach and win a final, to grind out wins throughout the season.”

Jones also knows what his strengths are as a player, and what he will help bring to the pitch for his new club. As somebody who can play in a number of positions down the wings he is willing to play wherever the coaching staff sees fit.

“I’m going to be myself. I think I have a lot of quality, a lot of pace, I can also play with the ball. I’m good with the ball at my feet. Whichever way the coach wants me to play, I’m here to bring the experience.”

As a former Sounders player, Jones has an existing relationship with Inter Miami CF Chief Soccer Officer and Sporting Director Chris Henderson. The pair spent four years together in Seattle and will now have an opportunity to be reunited in new colors.

“Chris is a good human being. He’s a really good guy. In Seattle he was always nice to me and I was always nice to him. The day he messaged me and said, ‘hey, I’m going to Miami,’ it was like a dream come true for me. It’s an honor to sign with Inter Miami for me.”

Lastly, Jones had an inspiring message for fans of the Club.

“I’m most excited to just come to South Florida and try to win trophies and help the team reach its goals.

“To my Inter Miami fans, just know I’ll be there soon and hopefully this season we can do something really good.”
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Storeboy on March 11, 2021, 08:24:42 PM
Good for you, young man! Be a Warrior!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: ffisback on March 14, 2021, 02:36:05 AM
This is probably the last chance for J Jones to play professional football he is not going to last for more than 2 to 3 years he is going to end up like his cousin having a lot of skill and athletic ability but was not able to take his game to another level  just having 2 or 3 good seasons is not good enough they both lack the mental toughness needed to survive in professional football.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Deeks on March 14, 2021, 03:48:46 AM
Honestly, he has done better than many.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 14, 2021, 07:37:52 AM
This is probably the last chance for J Jones to play professional football he is not going to last for more than 2 to 3 years he is going to end up like his cousin having a lot of skill and athletic ability but was not able to take his game to another level  just having 2 or 3 good seasons is not good enough they both lack the mental toughness needed to survive in professional football.

It won't necessarily be his last chance. We have journeymen playing football all over the planet. He is in a position to determine if this is his last dance.

That stated:

1. How does he view the decision to depart Germany now that his time with Seattle has ended? He opted to go west when many in MLS are hungry to go east.

2. He might outlast his coach. Won't surprise me.

3. I like this comment: 'I am going to be myself'. By now he should know that comes with a price tag. Time will tell us who incurs the expense. Joevin or Inter Miami.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Dinner Mints on March 14, 2021, 07:45:28 AM
they both lack the mental toughness needed to survive in professional football.
His cousin ‘survived’ a 13-year career as a professional. Much of it in the top flight. Sought after by Liverpool twice. Unless is some other cousin you throwing shots for.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 14, 2021, 07:48:19 AM
Honestly, he has done better than many.

100%. Even if we want(ed) more, you are 100% correct. Not exactly shabby.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 14, 2021, 07:55:36 AM
they both lack the mental toughness needed to survive in professional football.
His cousin ‘survived’ a 13-year career as a professional. Much of it in the top flight. Sought after by Liverpool twice. Unless is some other cousin you throwing shots for.

I doh want to believe that is what he meant because that is just delusional stuff. But, ffisback has entertained us before on some positions ... so could be. ;D
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on March 14, 2021, 07:31:45 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones chats about signing for Inter Miami CF

https://www.youtube.com/v/xw37RcM3jQU
Title: Miami's left-back troubles end with the signing of Joevin Jones
Post by: Tallman on March 17, 2021, 03:50:05 PM
Miami's left-back troubles end with the signing of Joevin Jones
By Alex (playathroughball.substack.com)


After an offseason of rumors and conjecture, Inter Miami has ended their search for a starting left-back with the signing of Trinidad and Tobago International Joevin Jones.

Announced on March 11th, 2021, Jones had this to say about making the switch down to Florida, stating:

"I’m very excited. Inter Miami is a big club, the people behind it are awesome. I’m excited to join and I can’t wait to be there.."

He then added on:

"I’m most excited to just come to South Florida and try to win trophies and help the team reach its goals."

Jones, 29, makes the jump to South Florida after spending the last two years with the Seattle Sounders. A skillful player who can play both as a fullback and winger, Jones will bring MLS Cup-winning experience to a lockerroom that got significantly younger during the offseason.

With the recent news that Kieran Gibbs could be joining the club in the summer (still doubt that it will happen, though…) Jones will be an excellent stop-gap at fullback until the 31-year-old Englishman's arrival.

As Phil Neville seeks to play a more possession-based style of soccer, Jones's positional flexibility will be a big help for Miami on the pitch.

Missing Puzzle Piece

Last season, Inter Miami had a fullback problem.

Diego Alonso had a revolving carousel of players at the position, none of which got entirely comfortable. For the majority of 2020, current Austin FC player Ben Sweat started at left-back, but any Inter Miami fan or writer could tell you that he was the team's weak spot.

His lapses in concentration, lack of recovery speed, and shoddy defending ability cost the team points on several occasions. Going into 2021, it was clear that newly appointed Sporting Director Chris Henderson had his work cut out for him to find the right fit for what Phil Neville needs on the pitch.

From what has been said, Neville likes to deploy his teams in either a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. It remains to be seen how Inter Miami will lineup, but taking into account quotes from press conferences, a flat back four - 4-3-3, seems the most likely.

If that is the case, Jones will be able to fit in seamlessly into Neville's setup; the Englishman values possession, winning the ball back as quickly as possible and making the team compact defensively so they'll be difficult to break down.

Canada International Jay Chapman had this to say about Neville's tactics:

"We're going to be a pressing team without the ball. Last season we weren't good enough with the ball. This year, there's been a real stress with our possession with the ball. Guys have been much better in training. We'll be a fun team to watch."

How He'll Fit In

Jones thrives on getting down the flanks and helping out his attacking line as much a possible. His positional versatility and willingness to get forward will provide Inter Miami tactical flexibility as well.

Neville likes his fullbacks to help provide the width in attack. While his wingers cut in, combining with the two central midfielders, the fullback's job is to hug the touchline and help support the front line, taking defenders on to get the byline to either whip in a cross or make room for themselves to get a shot off.

Because of his pace and technical ability, Miami's left-hand side will have an attacking outlet and a solid defender with recovery speed that will be an upgrade from Ben Sweat.

Presumed to be the starter, Jones' experience, skillset, will give Miami a different look at a position they desperately needed to fix. It's safe to say that the Inter Miami of 2020 will look very different in 2021.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on April 17, 2021, 09:36:58 AM
Manchester United fan Joevin Jones honoured to play under Red Devils legends at Inter Miami
By Colin Benjamin (sportsgazette.co.uk)


Manchester United fan and Trinidad & Tobago international Joevin Jones, is honoured to play for Major League Soccer (MLS) club Inter Miami, coached by former United player Phil Neville and owned by a group including United legend David Beckham.
 
Inter Miami’s efforts in MLS this season should be of interest to English fans, not only because of Beckham and Neville, but also English players Ryan Shawcross and Kieran Gibbs. The club with a fascinating short history open their season on Sunday against LA Galaxy (8pm, live on Sky Sports Football).

Jones recently joined the club from Seattle Sounders, after winning two MLS Cups and four Western Conference titles. He first came to America to play for Chicago Fire, and has also played in Finland and Germany. In his career, Jones has amassed the biggest football trophy tally by any Trinidad & Tobago player since Dwight Yorke was plying his trade in England for Manchester United.

“It’s an honour to be signed by Inter Miami. It’s a big club and the names behind it are magnificent. These names will certainly help it to be recognized more globally and I’m happy to be here and excited to start the season”, said Jones.

In 2008, before Jones became a professional player, the England team captained by Beckham came to Trinidad to play a famous international friendly, where the England FA tried to convince the disgraced former FIFA executive Jack Warner to support England’s bid to host the 2018 FIFA World Cup, which they lost out controversially to Russia.

Jones recalled being at the game, and how seeing Beckham alongside other United and Premier League players in the flesh increased his drive to become a professional.

“As a kid growing up we looked at the English Premier League because it had Dwight Yorke, Shaka Hislop, Kenwyne Jones, Carlos Edwards and Jason Scotland playing and I backed Manchester United”, said Jones.

“So to see those players coming to play in Trinidad like Beckham, Rio Ferdinand, Steven Gerrard, Ashley Young – even though we (Trinidad) lost the game it was a great experience to see those players in real life and not on TV. It was a great motivator to push myself at the time to become a professional player.”

For this summer’s CONCACAF Gold Cup, the confederation chose Inter Miami’s stadium to host the preliminary stage.

The 29 year old Jones is not surprised by this, saying: “To be honest Inter Miami stadium and facilities is one of the top venues in the world to me. The facilities are great and everything is right there together in the playing stadium and training ground. That’s extra motivation as players to be on job sites to work harder and cherish it.”

Jones concluded his thoughts speaking on how he believes the English duo of Shawcross and Gibbs will adjust to the league and as a former MLS title winner, how he thinks Inter Miami is shaping up heading into their second season of existence.

“To be honest not every player from abroad fits in (to the MLS right away). A new player coming to a new club has to know the players and the rhythm of the team. So while I think it might take a while for them, as guys with a lot of experience I’m backing Shawcross & Gibbs when he comes to adjust to the MLS quickly”, said Jones.

“I think the team under coach Neville is heading in the right direction. We have some big name players with European and MLS experience, which is the ideal mix to win an MLS cup once we play to potential.”
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: royal on April 19, 2021, 09:20:53 AM
was at the game yesterday against LA Galaxy. Joevin started, played almost the whole game, taken out at the end. Nothing special, you can definitely see the disconnect or miss understanding between Joevin and his teammates. I guess because he's new and they have to understand each other. I believe 2 of the 3 goals in La"s 3-2 victory came on Joevin side. The team wasn't also prepared for his accurate crosses from the left to inside the box. I guess as the season roles on the communication will be better, let's see.       
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: pull stones on June 10, 2021, 10:21:07 AM
OK we're out and deservedly so, IMO people who play games and skylark with other people's livelihood in the end gets what they deserve. when you have a former federation president conspiring with the world governing body to annul an elected federation just so that they could retain control of the federation and was facilitated by the football stake holders and the big names around the sport in that country, deserves to utterly fail,

not to mention a federation who has done nothing for football in 50 years, but instead filled their pockets and did not install as much as one community facility or youth program to push football into the 21 century, yet every 4 years they keep contending to go to the world cup to compete with the rest of concacaf who evidently has their act together while we keep coming up short in that regard, yet no introspective to address our constant failure was forth coming.

instead we keep going down the same road doing the same foolishness implementing the same short term fixes with an obviously faulty system, and have the nerve to blame the coaches and "S O M E" players when we fail, but no one dares blame not only the federation, but the league, the team owners and the shoddy coaches we have that rubbish league.

this failure is not only exclusive to the mens senior team, it's endemic throughout all our national team programs, from under 15 to the women's program, yet they want to lay blame at the feet of the coaches, all the while replacing them with another and another but achieving the same results with no meaningful changes in terms of success. which brings me to jovin jones.

this young man is arguably the best player we have in training ATM and the most accomplished in terms of contracts, goal tally and silver wear, yet he was the least visible and potent in our last 4 games scoring one single goal for the whole tournament while missing a few sitters and a penalty.

i saw jovin vs st kitts and his whole body language was of someone who didn't want to be there and my heart ached because it remind me of kenwin jones who did the same thing in the last few years of his football career where he was literally walking around on the pitch to the dismay of many of the english fans who made constant note of it.

watching jovin for club and country recently had me realize that he is guilty of the very same thing, and this is not isolated only to them, but tons of trini players who reaching a certain level of success became extremely complaisant and uninterested particularly in national service, compared to players like christiano, neymar, andreas guadardo, miguel harrera, and paul pogba, these players throw their all into representing their country and is even more adamant than their team mates for success, and these are mega superstars of football taking the field and playing for their nation as they were playing for their lives.

i believe jovin and should step aside if he's not happy with the way things are presently and allow another young player the opportunity to represent the country, as they did in couva in 2017 when we defeated the united states without any big names in the squad. seeing alfonso davies vs suraname made me wish we had a player who was just as skillful and hungry to score goals. this young man was all over the place running finding space and making passes that lead to goals, he knew that he was the catalyst of canada's success and if he didn't show up, then chance are their team could have suffer a similar fate to us.

 i watched all 4 games that we played in qualifying and have observed that mr jovin jones was the total opposite. he was less than interested in playing football and did not press the lines like telfer or levi did, which lead me to believe that dennis lawrence also did, hence the reason we was not a permanent starter in lawrence's squad, he just doesn't seem to be interested in the game anymore. we really do need a couple of go to guys on this team in order to be successful, and jovin ain't it.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: kounty on June 10, 2021, 11:22:30 AM
Just because I am a fan and believe players or their families/others read these and then somehow get the word/convey a general sentiment of 'what they hearing' back to the players, I want to disagree here and say that players don't pick themselves to play or keep themselves on the pitch. (maybe the above ^^^ comments are better suited to a Terry Fenwick thread). Joevin, I am more than grateful for you coming back into what I am certain is a pile of sh!t situation, gambling on your family livelihood for a PROMISE of what wouldn't even constitute pocket change or bus fare money. Consistently for many many years. Thank you for showing this nation of fake people how to love your country and God Bless and keep you and reward you for it. Play the Fitball Joevin, everybody know you have it. We behind you 100%.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: pull stones on June 10, 2021, 01:03:11 PM
Just because I am a fan and believe players or their families/others read these and then somehow get the word/convey a general sentiment of 'what they hearing' back to the players, I want to disagree here and say that players don't pick themselves to play or keep themselves on the pitch. (maybe the above ^^^ comments are better suited to a Terry Fenwick thread). Joevin, I am more than grateful for you coming back into what I am certain is a pile of sh!t situation, gambling on your family livelihood for a PROMISE of what wouldn't even constitute pocket change or bus fare money. Consistently for many many years. Thank you for showing this nation of fake people how to love your country and God Bless and keep you and reward you for it. Play the Fitball Joevin, everybody know you have it. We behind you 100%.
you must really have the hots for me, i've noticed you're my number one fan boy? but it's ok mate keep it coming, i have a very high threshold for ignoring trolls. as for your jovin jones love letter, i'd rather waste the ink on someone worth while, like aubrey david who doesn't always get a call up and could go years without an appearance, and though he was not born in TT i could say without contradiction that he loves the flag and shows it on the pitch more than any of these prima donnas who were, and always gave 200% for the national team.

i could go even further to pen a note to our dearest christiano, who could head off in the sunset every international break by hanging up his boots in exchange for a warm beach and a super model by his side, but unlike jovin he shows up every time to play for a less than talented national team.....no excuses... and leaves everything on the field every time, often coming off disappointed with his performance,

 and it's because of him portugal has constantly been to the world cup and euros, and often guarantees their success with his hardcore persistence and consistent performances which is driven by passion and pride for nation, and guess what, he wasn't even born on mainland portugal but gives his all like every game is a league cup final.

so go on and waste ink on this mischievous boy, otto fister had him tagged all along as a selfish player and a disruptive force. and in closing, had the coach refused to play him then every armchair football guru would be crying out for his head because he left our best player on the bench, but when he's on the field he's clearly our worst players, at least this past tournament.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: pull stones on June 10, 2021, 01:30:21 PM
what our nation team really needs is a leader, someone who could inspire his team mates. a lot of the reason why team are successful is because they have a strong leader, like bekham, zidane, perlo, maicon for brazil, bastian schweinsteiger, garreth bale, luka modric, landon donavon, christiano ronaldo and lionel messi. these guys and their influence were the main reasons why their teams were successful, their mare presence inspired their team mates.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on June 11, 2021, 03:17:58 AM
what our nation team really needs is a leader, someone who could inspire his team mates. a lot of the reason why team are successful is because they have a strong leader, like bekham, zidane, perlo, maicon for brazil, bastian schweinsteiger, garreth bale, luka modric, landon donavon, christiano ronaldo and lionel messi. these guys and their influence were the main reasons why their teams were successful, their mare presence inspired their team mates.

Concur in part, disagree in part. I agree with the bold. Not with all of the examples. Some are strong players not strong leaders.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on April 11, 2022, 10:40:51 AM
WATCH: Inter Miami's Joevin Jones details his recovery from a serious knee injury that kept him out of the game for 10 months.

https://www.youtube.com/v/npDO61Ypwyg
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on April 11, 2022, 11:58:10 AM
Joevin Jones made his first appearance in a competitive football match since suffering a long-term knee injury on June 25th 2021, when he came on as a 62nd minute substitute during Inter Miami CF II's MLS NEXT Pro game against Orlando City B.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQE-0BBWUAcyBjU?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: Tallman on May 13, 2022, 08:16:41 PM
Joevin Jones on Inter Miami return: “I’m happy, I feel like my life is back”
By Sofia Gordillo (intermiamicf.com)


Inter Miami will face D.C. United for the first time this campaign on Saturday, May 14 at DRV PNK Stadium. The squad, coming off of a 3-1 victory against South Georgia Tormenta FC in the U.S. Open Cup, continued its preparations today at the facility ahead of this weekend’s match.

In the Open Cup win, Joevin Jones made his first Inter Miami start since suffering an injury in 2021. The defender shared his thoughts on the milestone and the expectations he holds for himself ahead of the remainder of the season.

“I’m feeling good. I came on at Charlotte for 20 minutes, I felt good and this game I started and played 80+. It’s all about getting my confidence back and my momentum and getting match fit to finish the season strong. I’m happy. I feel like my life is back, on the pitch with my bros again and on the field playing in front of amazing fans and happy to be back.”

Head Coach Phil Neville was complimentary of the Trinidad and Tobago international’s efforts since his return.

“I thought against Charlotte he was really good when he came on, really composed…Because of the way that Joevin is, because of his laid back personality, you take for granted how much fútbol means to him…We’re now hoping to see the Joevin Jones that we signed, someone that can be a real asset.”

With the Open Cup victory behind him, Neville noted that he knows his team is capable of all that he expects from them, from attitude to accountability.

“I just wanted to be in the next round and that’s what they delivered. But my expectations are that I want us to do better…They know that, and Saturday I want us to get back to the levels that I know we can as we play against a team with a new coach. They have signed some really good new forward players. We know from our experiences last year that this is going to be a difficult game," he stated.

“That's a great quality to have on the team…I have a team that’s got real accountability, that's accepted it, a team that understood, and believed in it."

In its the second home game time this week, Inter Miami will host D.C. United on Saturday, May 14 at 8 p.m. ET. Get your tickets HERE and support Inter Miami from the stands at DRV PNK Stadium on Saturday!
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 21, 2022, 01:34:21 AM
It's really a shame when u consider he was doing well at Darnstadt in Bundesliga 2....

In each season since JJ left Darmstadt, they improved their standing on the table. This year the finished level on points with Hamburg (who finished 3rd and are in pole position to win the 2-leg playoff versus Hertha). Since he departed they have had 2 coaching changes. All the changes --- including when he was at the club --- seem to have supported the eventual results. In terms of playing personnel the squad has changed entirely, but there's still this lingering feeling that an adventure was left on the table.
Title: Re: Joevin Jones Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on May 23, 2022, 03:33:55 PM
It's really a shame when u consider he was doing well at Darnstadt in Bundesliga 2....

In each season since JJ left Darmstadt, they improved their standing on the table. This year the finished level on points with Hamburg (who finished 3rd and are in pole position to win the 2-leg playoff versus Hertha). Since he departed they have had 2 coaching changes. All the changes --- including when he was at the club --- seem to have supported the eventual results. In terms of playing personnel the squad has changed entirely, but there's still this lingering feeling that an adventure was left on the table.

No promotion for Hamburg. Foiled by an early goal from Dedryck Boyata (at 4'). Leadership! And another item in the second half.

What would be the vibe if the PL and the Championship had a playoff? Burnley probably would go down regardless. 😂