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Title: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Bakes on March 22, 2014, 08:42:36 AM
The crisis in Venezuela

Another day, more bodies (The Economist (http://www.economist.com/blogs/americasview/2014/03/crisis-venezuela))
Mar 13th 2014, 16:49 by P.G. | CARACAS

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THICK clouds of teargas hung in the air over the north gate of the Central University (UCV) in Caracas on March 12th. A police helicopter clattered overhead; on campus, plain-clothes gunmen on motorcycles, some bearing the initials of the national guard, harassed student demonstrators.

A month after the government crack-down on protesters began, Venezuela’s crisis is deepening. This was the bloodiest single day since three people were killed in Caracas on March 12th. Eighteen injuries were reported at the UCV, after a previously peaceful student march to demand the resignation of the Venezuelan government ombudsman was halted on the orders of President Nicolás Maduro.

But it was the city of Valencia, 125km west of the capital, that bore the brunt of the violence. Three people were shot dead there, including a national-guard officer and two civilians. The government blamed “snipers”; opposition sources insist the only people seen shooting belonged to the pro-government colectivos some are now beginning to call death-squads. The casualties in Valencia brought the month’s death toll to well over 20.

The protest movement began in early February after students and the more confrontational wing of the opposition Democratic Unity (MUD) alliance took to the streets. Their grievances, which are widely shared even by government supporters, include uncontrolled violent crime, inflation and growing shortages of food and other basics. Huge, peaceful protest marches across the country,as well as more violent clashes, often at night, have rattled the government.

Its response has been to jail the radicals’ most prominent leader, Leopoldo López of the Popular Will (VP) party, and unleash violent repression. More than 1,300 protesters, as well as innocent bystanders and journalists, have been detained; many have complained of beatings and ill-treatment. Dozens of cases of alleged torture are being investigated by human-rights groups. Plain-clothes security agents in unmarked cars have begun snatching alleged protest organisers off the streets.

While he wields a baton in one hand, Mr Maduro releases doves from the other. He has launched a so-called “peace conference”, which the opposition has boycotted. It says it will not sit down to talk unless the government gives clear signs that it is willing to mend its ways—which means, among other things, releasing Mr López and other political prisoners, and disarming the colectivos.

As the violence unfolded on March 12th, the Union of South American nations (Unasur) met in Santiago, the Chilean capital, to discuss how to respond to the Venezuelan crisis. Unasur agreed to form a commission of foreign ministers to visit Venezuela, whose task is to “accompany, support and advise”. The strained grammar of the Unasur communique, which reflects underlying political fractures among its members, leaves the reader to guess who is being “supported”.

Mr Maduro certainly seems to have seen the statement as a green light for further repression. He promptly called a meeting of his “security cabinet” and announced “drastic measures” to put a rapid end to the barricade-building and stone-throwing that have disrupted life in every major city in recent weeks. He ordered national-guard commandos to raid residential buildings in Valencia and said security forces would move within hours to arrest the “fascists” and their “suppliers and financiers”. Opposition mayors who fail to stop the protests are also being threatened with legal action.

Unless the Unasur foreign ministers can persuade the government to moderate its stance, their mission will be doomed from the outset. So far, their only achievement seems to have been to encourage the president to act more strongly to snuff out the protests.

https://www.youtube.com/v/A_Wz8yiVkcM#t=1159
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: pecan on March 22, 2014, 09:14:48 AM
A FB friend has been doing her best to keep this crisis first and foremost on her feeds.

She posted some links that include graphic pictures showing injuries inflicted on the anti-government protesters.

here is one

https://www.youtube.com/v/ej0bhSFLjSk&feature=share
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: Bakes on March 22, 2014, 09:57:56 AM
American propaganda, no doubt.
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: Ramgoat on March 22, 2014, 07:02:59 PM
 These protesters are from the elites  of Venezuelan societies and their main beef is that the  oil wealth is being shared by the poor .
 In their mind the resources of Venezuela belong to them  and them only and is not to be shared with the poor .
 It is no wonder that all the protests is taking place in the rich neighborhoods of Caracas and life goes on peacefully in the Barrios . I believe that Maduro  and Chavez before him has exhibited  too much patience with these American stooges . These protests  needs to be smashed  with a heavy hand .
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: Bakes on March 22, 2014, 08:09:49 PM
These protesters are from the elites  of Venezuelan societies and their main beef is that the  oil wealth is being shared by the poor .
 In their mind the resources of Venezuela belong to them  and them only and is not to be shared with the poor .
 It is no wonder that all the protests is taking place in the rich neighborhoods of Caracas and life goes on peacefully in the Barrios . I believe that Maduro  and Chavez before him has exhibited  too much patience with these American stooges . These protests  needs to be smashed  with a heavy hand .

You might want to take yuh head out yuh ass and watch the videos to see the "elites" who are in them.  Watch the black girl getting she head bashed in by a female cop who straddles her, takes off her helmet and beats her about the face mercilessly as her friends and neighbors look on.  Elites my ass.
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: asylumseeker on March 22, 2014, 08:11:56 PM
These protesters are from the elites  of Venezuelan societies and their main beef is that the  oil wealth is being shared by the poor .
 In their mind the resources of Venezuela belong to them  and them only and is not to be shared with the poor .
 It is no wonder that all the protests is taking place in the rich neighborhoods of Caracas and life goes on peacefully in the Barrios . I believe that Maduro  and Chavez before him has exhibited  too much patience with these American stooges . These protests  needs to be smashed  with a heavy hand .

I can't agree with you.

In the beginnning of Chavez's second coming, his opponents were mostly class-based ... and blindly adhering to that line on a class basis. However, today discontent transcends class to a greater degree. The human rights violations can't be ignored on the altar of class warfare. You're correct that the plutocrats have a legacy of insensitivity to the poor ... but Maduro's methodology is no way to proceed.

(pecan, the VEN protesters in Toronto have been quite committed!)
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: Flex on March 26, 2014, 01:56:03 AM
19 T&T Muslims held in Venezuela
Suspicion of being terrorists
By Mark Bassant CCN Senior Multimedia Investigative Journalist


AT LEAST 19 Trinidadian Muslims are now in the custody of the Venezuelan intelligence service      SEBIN (Servicio Bolivariano de Inteligencia Nacional), under the suspicion of being terrorists.

Well-placed intelligence sources in Venezuela confirmed the arrests of the Trinidadians, along with two other non-nationals at Plaza Hotel in Sabana Grande, Caracas.

The arrests followed a daytime raid last Wednesday.

The Express and TV6 News understand that three Trinidadian imams were among those held during the raid.

They are all being detained at SEBIN headquarters in Caracas.

The Express and TV6 News were informed that officers from SEBIN searched the hotel rooms of the Trinidadians and found military-style uniforms and Jihadist videos.

They also confiscated US$102,000 in cash and 66 passports that were in the possession of one                            of the Imams, who is attached to the Montrose Masjid.

The imams claimed they were not connected to the group and said they had come to Venezuela to secure visas at the Saudi Arabian consulate for Trinidadians who were going to the Hajj pilgrimage.

But intelligence sources in Venezuela who checked into their story indicated that the imams had some of the arrested group members’ passports in their custody.

“When we checked into their story we understand that they were trying to get the passports of these group members renewed by going to their consulate here in Venezuela.”

Intelligence sources close to the investigation informed the Express and TV6 News that the imams were attempting to renew the passports of the members, stating that they were travelling to Syria in a few months.

A high-ranking security source in Venezuela told the Express and TV6 News that the Trinidadians are being treated as suspected terrorists as it is believed they were leaving for Syria to fight in the Jihadist war.

Umar Abullah, head of the Islamic Front in Trinidad, said: “We have been asking for a long time for this Government to establish diplomatic relations with the Saudi government as it relates to visa and travel requirements to the holy land. It would prevent incidents like this with Imams having to travel to Venezuela with huge amounts of money and people’s passports if we can establish a Saudi consulate here.”

But one of the men, authorities believe, is instrumental in teaching some of the group members to use firearms and is wanted in Trinidad on a suspected murder charge.

Another one of the men now in custody was detained for questioning during the 2011 state of emergency in Trinidad.

He was suspected of being part of an alleged plot to assassinate Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and some  members of her administration.

The Express and TV6 News obtained the names of all of the persons in custody, but decided to withhold them until further investigations.

Apart from the three imams in custody, there are eight children, ranging in ages from two to 11, five adult men and three women.

The Express and TV6 News were reliably informed that officials from the Trinidad and Tobago Consulate made attempts to see the children but have been barred.

Venezuelan authorities have been tight-lipped about the arrests and say they will not share any information since they believe it can prejudice their investigation.

Under Venezuelan law, the group can be detained up to 45 days without being charged.

 A Ministry of Foreign Affairs official indicated under the Vienna Convention the group is permitted one consular visit.

The Express and TV6 News understands that the children and the adult men and women had entered Venezuela between January 1 and 5. The Imam from central Trinidad entered in February, while the other two imams came in on March 16 and 19.

Intelligence sources in Venezuela and Trinidad revealed “that the authorities were alerted to the members of the group from officials at the hotel, who indicated that they had being paying cash for the rooms ever since they arrived and kept to themselves all the time.”

Minister of National Security Gary Griffith confirmed the incident to the Express and TV6 News via text message and indicated that a team from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Ministry of National Security is expected to leave today to hold talks with Venezuelan authorities.

Admiral Richard Kelshall is one of the members of the team heading to Venezuela, Griffith indicated.

Griffith, however, said he was not aware if the Trinidad nationals were being treated as suspected terrorists.

Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: Flex on March 29, 2014, 02:02:22 AM
TRINIS HELD IN ‘COUP’ PLOT
Venezuela accuses detained local Muslims of planning to overthrow govt
By Mark Bassant CCN Senior Multimedia Investigative Journalist


THE TRINIDADIAN Muslims detained in Venezuela after a raid at the Plaza Hotel in Caracas last Wednesday are now being fingered in a plot to topple the Venezuelan government together with rogue Venezuelan police officers and other men.

Intelligence sources within Venezuela told the Express and TV6 News that “President Nicolas Maduro had obtained crucial information about  the plot from members of the El Servicio Bolivariano de Inteligencia Nacional (SEBIN) and they took the threat seriously”.

The eight Trinidadian Muslim men, along with six women and eight children, were held at the Plaza Hotel, Sabana Grande in downtown Caracas.

Intelligence sources privy to the information informed the Express and TV6 News that one of SEBIN’s very own was held in the exercise along with others.

They were identified as Rafael  José Durán of SEBIN, Gregorio Socorro Montañez of the Bolivarian national police and Fery Hernán Molina, from the Chacao police.

Their names were published for the first time in a Venezuelan newspaper late yesterday and sources say they were allegedly training the Trinidadian nationals along with a Guyanese and Haitian — both naturalised citizens of Venezuela — how to handle firearms.

The men were held in the hotel with not only military uniforms but what they claim are jihadist videos, and new information suggests they also found laptops and satellite phones, which they say may have been provided to the group by the Venezuelan police.

The Venezuelan media identified the Trinidadian men who appeared before the Anti-Terrorism Tribunal Court as: Dominic Clive Pitilal, Andre Joseph Battersby, Asim Luqman, Charles Wade and Leslie Doisely for the alleged commission of crimes of terrorism and criminal association.

After spending a day and a half in Venezuela, the Trinidadian delegation returned home yesterday afternoon after holding talks with SEBIN and other high-ranking officials pertaining to the Trinidadian Muslims who were detained in the raid.

Also held were three imams.

Rear Admiral Richard Kelshall, head of the Trinidad and Tobago delegation, who spoke with the Express and TV6 News via phone just before boarding the plane in Venezuela said, “We are trying to have the imams extricated from this situation, and we are working on that but this matter is extremely sensitive and we have to be careful.”

Kelshall continued, “We hope  to secure a proper resolution to the matter, but I can’t discuss anything more about the men, since their case is before a Venezuelan court.”

Late last night, senior intelligence sources in Trinidad confirmed that the three imams, Salam Abdul, Hamza Mohammad and Sheikh Hamid Hassan, are expected to be released either Monday or Tuesday next week and cleared of wrong-doing.

Kelshall described the marathon talks as “receptive between the parties” and said “they ensured that the women and children were brought back safely”.

Intelligence sources in Trinidad said the Strategic Services Agency (SSA) did background criminal checks on all the women and provided SEBIN with this paperwork to show they had clean records, thus allowing them to return here.

Well-placed sources in Venezuela told the Express and TV6 News that Luqman, in an e-mail obtained by the Trinidad and Tobago Consulate in Venezuela through his lawyer, claimed he had fled to Venezuela with his wife and children, fearing for his life after his brother was murdered.

Authorities have not been able to confirm Luqman’s story thus far. Luqman was one of the men detained during the state of emergency for questioning into the alleged plot to assassinate Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar.

Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: Ramgoat on April 03, 2014, 08:08:58 PM
  These protesters are the sons and daughters of rich people who has nothing better to do . A bit of bashing of the skulls by the security services will bring them to their senses .
i [size=78%] do admire the patience of Maduro in dealing with these parasites. [/size]
 I find it rather telling that in a tweet one  of these protesters  tweeted that Maduro  was a lowly bus driver but Radonski Capriles is a Harvard grad.
 I recommend that one should view the documentary " The revolution will not  be televised" and I am sure that it is still on You Tube... to see the kind of scum   elitist people that are fomenting   these disturbances
 
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: ribbit on April 06, 2014, 08:37:46 PM
  These protesters are the sons and daughters of rich people who has nothing better to do . A bit of bashing of the skulls by the security services will bring them to their senses .
i [size=78%] do admire the patience of Maduro in dealing with these parasites. [/size]
 I find it rather telling that in a tweet one  of these protesters  tweeted that Maduro  was a lowly bus driver but Radonski Capriles is a Harvard grad.
 I recommend that one should view the documentary " The revolution will not  be televised" and I am sure that it is still on You Tube... to see the kind of scum   elitist people that are fomenting   these disturbances
 

Dem people in Venezuela doh have much choice. Is either foreign-backed elites or "bus drivers".
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: asylumseeker on April 06, 2014, 08:56:11 PM
... or the military or military proxy.
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: fishs on April 07, 2014, 07:17:42 AM
  These protesters are the sons and daughters of rich people who has nothing better to do . A bit of bashing of the skulls by the security services will bring them to their senses .
i [size=78%] do admire the patience of Maduro in dealing with these parasites. [/size]
 I find it rather telling that in a tweet one  of these protesters  tweeted that Maduro  was a lowly bus driver but Radonski Capriles is a Harvard grad.
 I recommend that one should view the documentary " The revolution will not  be televised" and I am sure that it is still on You Tube... to see the kind of scum   elitist people that are fomenting   these disturbances
 

You are a real clown. People dying and you call it " a bit of bashing of the skulls".
Money starting to run out so even the chavista slaves in the barrios starting to take to the streets. People going hungry right now, even elites have to eat because they are people too. BTW if you are a university student that makes you elite?
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: Bakes on April 07, 2014, 09:04:38 AM
You are a real clown. People dying and you call it " a bit of bashing of the skulls".
Money starting to run out so even the chavista slaves in the barrios starting to take to the streets. People going hungry right now, even elites have to eat because they are people too. BTW if you are a university student that makes you elite?

Pay that idiot no mind... he's a wind-up artist.
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: Ramgoat on April 07, 2014, 04:00:58 PM
You are a real clown. People dying and you call it " a bit of bashing of the skulls".
Money starting to run out so even the chavista slaves in the barrios starting to take to the streets. People going hungry right now, even elites have to eat because they are people too. BTW if you are a university student that makes you elite?

Pay that idiot no mind... he's a wind-up artist.
Go learn some history  boy.
 Do you remember when the former president of Venezuela Carlos Andres Perez acquired an  IMF loan in 1989 and then introduced austerity measures ? Petrol prices doubled and transportation costs skyrocketed .
 In the ensuing riots that followed over 3000 poor people were killed by the national guard and so these  30 or so  elites  that has died in these protests  .. well cry me  an Orinoco river
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: asylumseeker on April 07, 2014, 05:29:41 PM
1989, the year of much upheaval in many internal political contexts ... interesting that the 1989 events in VEN barely registered internationally, and that current events in VEN also have captured global attention only at the margins. This storm is really a calm before the actual storm ... if the political class fails to strike a balance of interests.
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: Ramgoat on April 07, 2014, 05:56:40 PM
These protesters are from the elites  of Venezuelan societies and their main beef is that the  oil wealth is being shared by the poor .
 In their mind the resources of Venezuela belong to them  and them only and is not to be shared with the poor .
 It is no wonder that all the protests is taking place in the rich neighborhoods of Caracas and life goes on peacefully in the Barrios . I believe that Maduro  and Chavez before him has exhibited  too much patience with these American stooges . These protests  needs to be smashed  with a heavy hand .

You might want to take yuh head out yuh ass and watch the videos to see the "elites" who are in them.  Watch the black girl getting she head bashed in by a female cop who straddles her, takes off her helmet and beats her about the face mercilessly as her friends and neighbors look on.  Elites my ass.
That black girl  is most likely a servant being paid by one of those rich people to participate in a demonstration,
 I noticed that you mentioned " elites my ass" . My friend whether your ass is elite or egalitarian that  is your business 
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: Ramgoat on April 07, 2014, 07:20:39 PM
  These protesters are the sons and daughters of rich people who has nothing better to do . A bit of bashing of the skulls by the security services will bring them to their senses .
i [size=78%] do admire the patience of Maduro in dealing with these parasites. [/size]
 I find it rather telling that in a tweet one  of these protesters  tweeted that Maduro  was a lowly bus driver but Radonski Capriles is a Harvard grad.
 I recommend that one should view the documentary " The revolution will not  be televised" and I am sure that it is still on You Tube... to see the kind of scum   elitist people that are fomenting   these disturbances
 

You are a real clown. People dying and you call it " a bit of bashing of the skulls".
Money starting to run out so even the chavista slaves in the barrios starting to take to the streets. People going hungry right now, even elites have to eat because they are people too. BTW if you are a university student that makes you elite?
I usually don't engage with Fox news viewers and I  will not make an exception here
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: Toppa on April 10, 2014, 03:05:29 PM
Venezuela's president has accused the US of using continuing street protests to attempt a "slow-motion" Ukraine-style coup against his government and "get their hands on Venezuelan oil".

In an exclusive interview with the Guardian, Nicolás Maduro, elected last year after the death of Hugo Chávez, said what he described as a "revolt of the rich" would fail because the country's "Bolivarian revolution" was more deeply rooted than when it had seen off an abortive US-backed coup against Chávez in 2002.

Venezuela, estimated to have the world's largest oil reserves, has faced continuous violent street protests – focused on inflation, shortages and crime – since the beginning of February, after opposition leaders launched a campaign to oust Maduro and his socialist government under the slogan of "the exit".

"They are trying to sell to the world the idea that the protests are some of sort of Arab spring," he said. "But in Venezuela, we have already had our spring: our revolution that opened the door to the 21st century".

The conflict has claimed up to 39 lives and posed a significant challenge to Maduro's government. On Monday, the Venezuelanpresident agreed to a proposal by the South American regional group Unasur for peace talks with opposition leaders, who have up to now refused to join a government-led dialogue.

The US denies involvement and says Venezuela is using the excuse of a coup threat to crack down on the opposition. Human Rights Watch and Venezuela's Catholic hierarchy have also condemned the government's handling of the protests, while Amnesty International has alleged human rights abuses by both sides.

Maduro claimed Venezuela was facing a type of "unconventional war that the US has perfected over the last decades", citing a string of US-backed coups or attempted coups from 1960s Brazil to Honduras in 2009.

Speaking in the Miraflores presidential palace in Caracas, the former bus driver and trade union leader said Venezuela's opposition had "the aim of paralysing the main cities of the country, copying badly what happened in Kiev, where the main roads in the cities were blocked off, until they made governability impossible, which led to the overthrow of the elected government of Ukraine." The Venezuelan opposition had, he said, a "similar plan".

"They try to increase economic problems through an economic war to cut the supplies of basic goods and boost an artificial inflation", Maduro said. "To create social discontent and violence, to portray a country in flames, which could lead them to justify international isolation and even foreign intervention."

Pointing to the large increases in social provision and reduction in inequality over the past decade and a half, Maduro said: "When I was a union leader there wasn't a single programme to protect the education, health, housing and salaries of the workers. It was the reign of savage capitalism. Today in Venezuela, the working class is in power: it's the country where the rich protest and the poor celebrate their social wellbeing," he said.

Venezuela's protests have been fuelled by high inflation, which reached a peak of 57% but has now fallen to a monthly rate of 2.4%, and shortages of subsidised basic goods, a significant proportion of which are smuggled into Colombia and sold for far higher prices. Opposition leaders accuse the government of mismanagement.

Recent easing of currency controls appear to have had a positive impact, and the economy continues to grow and poverty rates fall. But Venezuela's murder rate – a target of the protests – is among the highest in the world.

About 2,200 have been arrested (190 or so are still detained) during two months of unrest, which followed calls by opposition leaders to "light up the streets with struggle" and December's municipal elections in which Maduro's supporters' lead over the opposition increased to 10%.

Responsibility for the deaths is strongly contested. Eight of the dead have been confirmed to be police or security forces; four opposition activists (and one government supporter) killed by police, for which several police officers have been arrested; seven were allegedly killed by pro-government colectivo activists and 13 by opposition supporters at street barricades.

Asked how much responsibility the government should take for the killings, Maduro responded that 95% of the deaths were the fault of "rightwing extremist groups" at the barricades, giving the example of three motorcyclists killed by wire strung across the road by protesters. He said he has set up a commission to investigate each case. The global media was being used to promote a "virtual reality" of a "student movement being repressed by an authoritarian government", he argued. "What government in the world hasn't committed political or economic mistakes? But does that justify the burning down of universities or the overthrow of an elected government?"The protests, often led by students and overwhelmingly in well-off areas, have included arson attacks on government buildings, universities and bus stations. From a peak of several hundred thousand people in February, most recent demonstrations have dwindled in size and are restricted to opposition strongholds, such as Tachira state on the Colombian border.

A hardline opposition leader, Leopoldo López, who participated in the 2002 coup, and two opposition mayors have been arrested and charged with inciting violence. Another backer of the protests, María Corina Machado, was stripped of her post in parliament.

This was not "criminalising dissent", Maduro insisted. "The opposition has full guarantees and rights. We have an open democracy. But if a politician commits a crime, calls for the overthrow of the legitimate government and uses his position to block streets, burn universities and public transport, the courts act." Critics, however, insist the courts are politicised.

Last month, the US secretary of state, John Kerry, claimed Venezuela was waging a "terror campaign" against its own citizens. But the Organisation of American States and the South American Unasur and Mercosur blocs of states backed the Venezuelan government and called for political dialogue.

Asked for evidence of US intervention in the protests, the Venezuelan president replied: "Is 100 years of intervention in Latin America and the Caribbean not enough: against Haiti, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Chile, Grenada, Brazil? Is the coup attempt against President Chávez by the Bush administration not enough? Why does the US have 2,000 military bases in the world? To dominate it. I have told President Obama: we are not your backyard anymore".

Maduro pointed to evidence of past and present US intervention in Venezuela in Wikileaks cables, the whistleblower Edward Snowden's revelations and US state department documents. They include cables from the US ambassador outlining US plans to "divide", "isolate" and "penetrate" the Chávez government, and extensive US government funding of Venezuelan opposition groups over the past decade (some via agencies such as USAid and the Office for Transitional Initiatives), including $5m (£3m) of overt support in the current fiscal year.

Maduro's allegations follow last week's revelation that USAid covertly funded a social media website to foment political unrest and encourage "flash mobs" in Venezuela's ally Cuba under the cover of "development assistance". White House officials acknowledged that such programmes were not "unique to Cuba".

Maduro has called a national peace conference – though opposition parties have so far refused to participate, arguing it will be skewed to endorse the government.

The president also says he will agree to Vatican conciliation if the opposition condemns violence. But he rejects criticism that he and the Chavista movement have been too polarising."I don't think polarisation in a democracy is something wrong. That seems to be trendy now, to try to turn polarisation into some sort of disease. I wish all democratic societies would polarise. A democracy can only truly function if its society is politicised."

"Politics is not only for the elite, for centre-right and centre-left parties, while the elites distribute power and wealth among themselves", Maduro said. "Venezuela has a positive polarisation because it is a politicised country where the large majority take sides over public policies. There is also negative polarisation that doesn't accept the other and wants to eliminate the other – we must get over that with national dialogue."Venezuela has been central to the radical political transformation of Latin America over the past decade, and Maduro insists that regional process will continue. When Chávez said "the 21st century is ours" in 1992, he says "it was a romantic idea. Today it is a reality and no one is going to take it away from us".

Challenged over whether Venezuela's 2009 referendum to abolish limits on the number of times presidents can stand for election meant he would like to continue indefinitely, Maduro countered that Venezuela had a right to recall elected officials, unlike in Europe. "In the UK, the prime minister can run as many times as he wants to, but not the royals. Who elected the queen?

"The people will decide until when I can be here. Be certain that if it is not me it will be another revolutionary. What will be indefinite is the popular power of the people".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/08/venezuela-protests-sign-us-wants-oil-says-nicolas-maduro
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: asylumseeker on May 22, 2014, 08:17:14 PM
Meanwhile, it's business as usual.

60-member Venezuelan delegation coming

This year will see a large trade delegation of Venezuelans coming to T&T for the Trade and Investment Convention (TIC), said Ramesh Ramdeen, chief executive officer of the T&T Manufacturers’ Association (TTMA).

Although both countries are geographically close—11 kilometres apart—the relationship has always focused on energy and not much other commercial relations.

But this has begun to change.

During a visit to Trinidad in 2013, Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro gave Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar a gift of a computer tablet and mobile phone assembled by the company, Venezuelan Industrial Technology (VIT), which manufactures computers and cellphones, and is an emblem of Venezuela’s light industrial base.

“We have a really big delegation coming from Venezuela this year. The Government of Venezuela is trying to spread its wings throughout the Caribbean. So recently at the Jamaican Trade Show, they had a significant amount of booths, and they have also targeted T&T as well as Guyana. Guyana’s Trade Show is in October and ours is in July. We are advised that the Venezuelans will place a lot of emphasis on the T&T market,” Ramdeen told the Business Guardian.

He said it is not only about the Venezuelans selling their goods to T&T, but they also want to source products from T&T.

“According to the last check, we have 21 people coming to exhibit and to do joint ventures and partnership. They have taken three large pavilions to house 21 people. We have about 42 people in terms of investors and buyers. So in total, about 60 people would be coming thus far. The profile shows that a significant amount is in the energy and downstream sectors, food and beverages, paper and construction. Those are the four main areas. In the area of construction, one Venezuelan company is in the area of bricks and building,” Ramdeen said.

Nicholas Lok Jack, president of the TTMA, who was also part of the interview said Venezuelan businesses have invested in Colombia, Panama and other regional countries.

“We cannot turn our eyes away from Venezuelan capital. The people who are coming to invest are good, solid businesspeople for years and are looking to spread their wings internationally,” he said.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/business-guardian/2014-05-22/60-member-venezuelan-delegation-coming
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: asylumseeker on July 26, 2014, 05:04:35 PM
Minister: Flights between Aruba, Venezuela resume

Associated Press
July 26, 2014

ORANJESTAD, Aruba — Flights between Venezuela and Aruba resumed Saturday, ending a brief suspension by the South American country to protest the arrest of its designated counsel to the island territory, the highest-ranking Venezuelan official ever detained on a U.S. warrant.

The lifting of the flight ban followed several hours of talks between Aruba Justice Minister Arthur Dowers and a representative of Venezuela’s foreign affairs ministry, Dowers told The Associated Press.

The suspension of flights to and from Aruba and other Dutch Caribbean territories came Friday afternoon after an Aruban judge ruled that Hugo Carvajal, the former head of Venezuelan military intelligence, must remain behind bars pending a U.S. extradition request on drug-trafficking charges. The order stranded about 500 travelers on the island, which is a popular tourist destination.

“We understand the Venezuelan government is upset with the detention of one of their diplomatic corps members, but I told them that based on basic human rights, it cannot be so that the movement of many more of their citizens and their right to go home will be sacrificed,” Dowers said.

Three airlines serving major Venezuelan cities confirmed flights resumed Saturday morning. It was unclear how many flights had been affected.

The flight ban was considered an economic blow to Aruba since Venezuela, just 15 miles (24 kilometers) away, represents its second-largest tourism market behind the United States.

Carvajal was arrested Thursday as he arrived in Aruba to take office as Venezuela’s consul to the island. Venezuela protested the detention, citing diplomatic immunity, but Aruban authorities said the arrest came before he was accredited.

Dowers said Aruba complied with a request from U.S. authorities to arrest Carvajal based on a treaty signed between the Kingdom of the Netherlands and the United States.

He said he is aware that the Venezuelan government is still upset about the ruling and that it could reinstate the flight ban or take other punitive actions. He did not specify what those actions might be.

Aruba government officials scheduled an emergency meeting Saturday to talk about the issue.

U.S. authorities have alleged that Carvajal is one of several high-ranking Venezuelan military and law enforcement officials who provided a haven to major drug traffickers from neighboring Colombia and helped them export large amounts of U.S.-bound cocaine through Venezuela.

His surprise arrest has cast a spotlight on what’s known in Venezuela as the “Cartel of the Suns,” referring to rogue, high-ranking military officers believed to have grown rich from drug-running. Top Venezuelan officers wear sun insignia on their uniforms.

Together with the unsealing Thursday of a drug indictment against two other Venezuelan officials, Carvajal’s arrest will likely also ratchet up tensions between the U.S. and Venezuela’s socialist government, which frequently accuses Washington of conspiring against it.

President Nicolas Maduro had threatened to retaliate against Aruba, unless Carvajal is freed. The president likened Carvajal’s arrest to an “ambush” and “kidnapping” that violates international law and Venezuelan sovereignty.
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: Bakes on July 26, 2014, 07:23:27 PM
Wow... kudos to Dowers and the Aruban government for standing up for what they believe is right.  Whether there's any substance to the charges, that remainst to be seen, but the rule of law must prevail.
Title: Venezuelan President wants to become family with T&T
Post by: Flex on February 25, 2015, 04:56:50 AM
Venezuelan President wants to become family with T&T
By Joel Julien (Express).


SISTER KAMLA

THE time has come for Trinidad and Tobago and Venezuela to move from simply being “good neighbours” to becoming “good sister­s and brothers”, Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has said.

As a sign of their deepening bond, the leaders of the two countries yesterday expressed their commitment to the joint exploitation of energy reserves, the payment of an outstanding debt to Trinidad and Tobago’s national carrier by Venezuela, increased dialogue over the incarceration of five Muslims from this country in Venezuela, as well as commodity sharing between the two nations and national security cooperation.

Maduro yesterday arrived in this country around 11 a.m. accompanied by his wife, Cilia Flores, and his son, Nicolas Ernesto Maduro Guerra. It was his second visit to Trinidad and Tobago.

A total of 95 Venezuelans, including seven government ministers, security personnel and 20 members of the media, made the trip with Maduro.

Local media, apart from the State-owned Government Information Services Ltd (GISL), were barred from covering both the arrival and departure of Maduro.

The first stop on Maduro’s visit yesterday was a courtesy call on President Anthony Carmona at President’s House in St Ann’s.

The second stop was a visit to the nearby Diplomatic Centre.

Around 12.30 p.m., Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar arrived at the Diplomatic Centre.

She was greeted with the song “Bailamos” played by on the pan by Caribbean Airlines Invaders Steel Orchestra.

Around 1.27 p.m., Maduro arrived at the Diplomatic Centre. He was greeted by the song “Brazil”.

Maduro tried his hand at playing one of Invaders’ tenor pans.

Maduro then paid a private courtesy call on Persad-Bissessar at the Prince Charles Room at the Diplomatic Centre.

Around 2.37 p.m., both leaders then led their respective delegations to the Octagon Room for bilateral talks.

Around 3.49 p.m., Maduro and Persad-Bissessar held a joint news conference.

“Now more than ever we must seek to foster closer ties, enhance cooperation and deepen integration with our partners in the region,” Persad-Bissessar said.

Chief among the discussions yesterday were energy matters, Persad-Bissessar said.

T&T, Venezuela must fight crime scourge

Two documents were signed. The first was the Unitisation Agreement for the Exploitation and Development of Hydrocarbon Reservoirs of the “Manakin-Cocuina Field” that extends across the delimitation line between Trinidad and Tobago and Vene­zuela.

The second was the framework Agreement on Energy Sector Cooperation between Trinidad and Tobago and Venezuela.

“Our two countries are energy-driven and the recent drop in oil prices remains at the forefront of developing energy policies, for this reason we believe a joint venture such as this, a unison of strengths would result in capacity to better treat with such fluctuations in the future,” Persad-Bissessar said.

This is the first time in the Western Hemi­sphere a commercialisation of cross-border reserves has occurred, Persad-Bissessar said. It is only the third time it has happened in the world before.

Maduro said the two countries were showing the world how to operate.

“We can easily see around the world the conflicts, the war, the tensions that are crea­ted as a result of the development and the use of resources of energy, gas, etc,” Maduro said.

“On the contrary, in our case we have been able to pave the way for a cooperation that has been translated into agreement for the joint exploitation of our resources which are going to be mutually satisfactory and beneficial.

“I think Trinidad and Tobago and Venezuela are setting the example and showing to the world that it is possible to build a world of peace, understanding and development without the conflicts and without the confrontations that we have seen elsewhere in order to foster our developments,” he said.

Maduro yesterday gave his commitment to pay a debt owed to Caribbean Airlines Ltd which started at US$10 million and has been growing steadily since.

“I want to thank his Excellency for a commitment given today for the debt owed to Caribbean Airlines... for some resolution to be brought to this and Excellency was very firm and adamant about the settlement of the debt to Caribbean Airlines Ltd,” she said.

Persad-Bissessar said she also raised the issue of the five Muslims from this country who are currently incarcerated in Venezuela since March last year over allegations of terroris­m.

“We did raise the concern by some of our citizens here in Trinidad and Tobago with respect to the five Trini citizens incarcerated in Venezuela. We spoke without prejudice to the workings fairly of the justice system of Venezuela, and Excellency has given the commitment that our ministers of foreign affairs and national security will have further dialogue on that matter,” Persad-Bissessar said.

Persad-Bissessar said “commodity sharin­g” between both countries was also raised.

“As you may be aware, Trinidad and Tobago exports a number of goods to Venezuela, including gasoline, machine parts, air-conditioners, parts for refrigerators, toilet/facial tissue and cement,” Persad-Bissessar said.

“Our main imports from Venezuela include crude petroleum, gas, oil, jet fuel, electric conductors, iron ore and bars and rods from Venezuela.

“Following our discussions today, we are of the view that a mechanism for commodity sharing holds significant promise for both our countries,” she said.

National security for both countries was also raised, Maduro said.

“Our countries are victims of drug trafficking and our countries have to wage a serious and very expensive fight against drug trafficking and invest a lot to fight against these networks of drug traffickers in the region even though we are not producers of these products,” Maduro said.

He said both countries must fight the “crime scourge” which is a result of the drug trafficking problem. Maduro left Trinidad yesterday evening.
Title: Re: Venezuelan President wants to become family with T&T
Post by: asylumseeker on February 25, 2015, 08:43:55 AM
Can't believe we agreed to only permitting State media to cover his arrival. Since when have we acquiesced in accommodating authoritarian anti-democratic regimes? Nonsense!

I hope the foreign policy ppl in the Opposition render this an issue.
Title: Re: Venezuelan President wants to become family with T&T
Post by: pull stones on February 25, 2015, 11:15:01 AM
don't we sell our oil through vene if i am not mistaken?
Title: Re: Venezuelan President wants to become family with T&T
Post by: Peong on February 25, 2015, 12:08:35 PM
Maduro running that country into the ground.  The sooner Venezuela gets a good leader the better for them and us.
Title: Re: Venezuelan President wants to become family with T&T
Post by: Sando prince on February 25, 2015, 01:59:13 PM

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...Resident Venezuelans protest near President’s House

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Resident-Venezuelans-protest-near-Presidents-House-293949491.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Resident-Venezuelans-protest-near-Presidents-House-293949491.html)

Venezuelans residing in Trinidad yesterday staged a protest near President’s House, St Ann’s, against Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, whom they accused of corruption and oppression in their home country.

Maduro arrived in Trinidad yesterday to hold bilateral talks with the Government, but the angry protesters said he should not be welcome in this country.

He met with both the President and Prime Minister.

The protesters said children were dying in Venezuelan hospitals due to a lack of medication, and citizens were without basic necessities such as food and water. They claimed Maduro’s policies are not in the interest of the people and have caused tremendous economic hardship.

Leading the protest, Yesenia Gonzales, a popular Venezuelan psychic who is a Trinidad resident, called Maduro “a devil in disguise” and said he lacked the intelligence, wisdom and knowledge to run Vene­zuela. “He is a very poor leader. We don’t want his policies anymore. He is very ignorant and he is a devil in Venezuela,” she said.

Gonzales said the Maduro-led government was corrupt and only interested in pocketing the country’s wealth. “They are living like kings while people in Venezuela are dying,” she said.

Yesterday’s protest was not the first of its kind. In April 2013, Madur­o replaced Hugo Chavez who died from cancer. He won the election with 50.7 per cent of the vote against 49.1 per cent won by his opponent, Henrique Capriles.

Shortly after Maduro took up office, Venezuelans in Trinidad protested outside the Venezuelan Embassy in Woodbrook, demanding a recount of votes. In a similar fashion, protesters again gathered outside the Embassy last February, calling for peace following the deaths of several people in Venezuela during protests against Madur­o’s governance.

The continued unrest in Venezuela took yet another dramatic turn with the arrest of Caracas Mayor Antonio Ledezma last week for allegedly planning a coup. Ledezma, one of Maduro’s most outspoken critics, joins a number of activists who have been jailed, including opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez. The arrests have sparked further protests and prompted strong responses from human rights groups and foreign governments, including the United States. Former US president Bill Clinton recently tweeted a message saying: “Leopoldo Lopez and the political prisoners in Venezuela should be released without delay.”


MSJ Support for Maduro


In stark contrast to the cries of Venezuelan nationals yesterday, members of the Movement for Social Justice (MSJ) gathered outside the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann’s to show support for Maduro’s visit to T&T. The members carried pla­cards welcoming Maduro to Trinidad and Tobago in both English and Spanish.

MSJ public relations officer Gregory Fernandez said despite protests by Venezuelans, Maduro has the support of the majority of Venezuelan people.

“President Maduro is the officially elected president of Venezuela and his party, the PSUV, has been elected on three consecutive occasions through the democratic process. They have the majority support of the people of Venezuela and the reason that they are still in power is because they have been making a difference in the lives of the majority of the people of Venezuela,” Fernandez said.
Title: Re: Venezuelan President wants to become family with T&T
Post by: asylumseeker on February 25, 2015, 02:04:30 PM
Is Gregory Fernandez in touch with reality? And why is this an issue the MSJ feels compelled to treat on the wrong side of history?
Title: Re: Venezuelan President wants to become family with T&T
Post by: Sando prince on March 01, 2015, 11:15:54 PM


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/letters/What-message-are-we-sending-294450721.html

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What message are we sending?

 I note the media coverage of Venezuelan P­resident Nicolas M­aduro’s visit (apparently with a very large entourage) has been extremely positive, framed in terms of reciprocal economic advantage and even some sort of political or social solidarity.

Meanwhile, even on a short return visit to Trinidad, one cannot help but meet a goodly number of Venezuelans, exiled from their country (albeit voluntarily), chased away by the harsh economic conditions and the treatment of the opposition.

No one would doubt it is important for Trinidad and Tobago to preserve good relations with its nearest Latin neighbour. Fortunately, these have survived various periods of tension because the ties binding the two nations are strong.

Additionally, no one would doubt there are advantages to be gained by joint exploitation of cross-border gas fields. Indeed the negotiation over Loran-Manatee has been anxiously watched for years and the M­anakin-Cocuina agreement falls along these lines.

However, Trinidad and Tobago has long made respect for human rights and the rule of law a cornerstone of its foreig­n policy and international brand. As such, the country ought to ensure its enthusiasm for strong economic relations with Venezuela is not mistaken for endorsement of the current parlous state of governance in Venezuela.

A more sober tone in the coverage of Mr Maduro’s visit would have been appreciated by many.
Title: Re: Venezuelan President wants to become family with T&T
Post by: asylumseeker on March 16, 2015, 10:35:10 AM
Venezuela diplomat grateful for T&T support

 
Rapheal John-Lall
Monday, March 16, 2015
Trinidad & Tobago Guardian

Venezuela’s Ambassador to T&T Coromoto Godoy yesterday expressed gratitude to the many local groups that have shown support and solidarity with her country. “Venezuela has been developing solidarity with T&T for many years now. Today, there are different social movements from T&T, political movements like the Movement Social Justice (MSJ) and trade unions, saying they want to express solidarity with us.

“We have two buses coming from Cedros who are fishermen. There are university lecturers calling us to show support. It means the people from T&T are with us and they understand what is happening in Venezuela and the terrible incident with US President Obama,” she  said.

The ambassador made the comment during a baseball game at the Queen's Park Savannah, Port-of-Spain, yesterday involving Venezuelans, Cubans and nationals of the Dominican Republic. Groups representing T&T's civil society were in attendance showing solidarity with Venezuela in its diplomatic tug of war with the United States. In a statement yesterday, the MSJ expressed solidarity with the Venezuelan people and democratically elected Government of Venezuela.

“The events of the past week in which the United States has intensified sanctions against Venezuela and deemed that Government as a threat to national security interests have made the issues clearer. The MSJ has no doubt that the United States is pursuing its old imperial agenda of seeking to control strategic resources globally and to control oil and energy resources,” the release said. The MSJ said the issues is not democracy as claimed by the United States but its unstable relationship with Venezuela is about oil and geo-politics.

The party also referred to Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's visit to T&T three weeks ago, saying it took place “at a difficult time for our next door neighbour and most Caribbean economies.” “The evidence is clear that this is being done by local merchants in co-ordination with the US Government to destabilise the economy in order to promote regime change.” The MSJ said Venezuela has helped smaller Caribbean economies that have been faring poorly.

“Venezuela has reached out to provide sharply discounted oil and gas supplies to help these countries face intense economic crises of the last decade,” the party said.
Title: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Deeks on September 23, 2015, 03:29:09 PM
From the bbc. Mods if there is another Ven-Guyana thread, fix to suit.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-34332366

Guyana's President David Granger says Venezuela has deployed troops along their border area.

Mr Granger described the move as a "dangerous escalation" in the long-running dispute between the two South American neighbours.

Venezuela says its troops are conducting exercises in the region.

It lays claim to the vast mineral-rich area of jungle west of the Essequibo river, which accounts for about 40% of Guyana's territory.

Venezuela has been claiming the area as its own since the 19th Century, when Guyana was still a British colony.




Mr Granger said Venezuela seems to be pursuing "a very offensive and aggressive course".

"We feel that Venezuela is treading a dangerous course at this point in time rather than seeking a peaceful resolution of the matter.''

'Significant oil discovery'

In June, Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro demanded Guyana stop oil exploration in a disputed offshore territory.

The exploration was being carried out by US oil giant ExxonMobil.

Venezuelan Foreign Minister Delcy Rodriguez called the exploration "a dangerous political provocation".

An international tribunal ruled in 1899 that the area formed part of Guyana, which at the time was a British colony.

Venezuela never accepted the ruling, arguing it was unfair.

On 20 May, ExxonMobil announced "a significant oil discovery" in the disputed area.

A week later, President Maduro issued a presidential decree claiming sovereignty of the disputed waters.

President Granger in turn released a statement calling Venezuela's decree a "flagrant violation of international law".

Guyana has asked the United Nations to mediate the dispute.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Sando prince on September 23, 2015, 06:31:10 PM

I am curious to know where Granger has placed his Defence Force in response to this..
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Deeks on September 23, 2015, 06:38:07 PM

I am curious to know where Granger has placed his Defence Force in response to this..

I definitely don't want to see this dispute start with a shoot out. Guyana with a population less than TT may not be a match for Ven with their big military force.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Sando prince on September 23, 2015, 06:42:10 PM

I am curious to know where Granger has placed his Defence Force in response to this..

I definitely don't want to see this dispute start with a shoot out. Guyana with a population less than TT may not be a match for Ven with their big military force.

Shootout? Where is Guyana defense if not guarding it's own border?
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: R45 on September 24, 2015, 09:49:41 AM
Shootout? Where is Guyana defense if not guarding it's own border?

The GDF doesn't have much of an operational capacity, especially for rural access - it has been an issue for decades. They've always had an issue with not having enough vehicles (or the right type) for those remote regions, or not having enough landing strips to gain access quickly (and not enough troop transport options). They just don't spend enough as a percentage of GDP compared to their neighbours.

This Venezuela-Guyana should be a CARICOM issue, but this is incredibly muddy since Venezuela has been buying CARICOM goodwill through PetroCaribe and other financial support. Honestly I think that was part of their strategy to divide CARICOM and keep their Guyana/Venezuela dispute in isolation. CARICOM is less likely now to have a uniform voice condemning Venezuela on the border dispute because of how deep some of the governments (especially the Lesser Antilles) are with Venezuelan social programs.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Deeks on September 24, 2015, 10:24:26 AM
Guyana will be hard-pressed to defend all that territory. That better start working on the diplomatic front to help bolster them in case Maduro go loco. I think he should talk to Caricom now(well he must be talking to them and they keeping it a low profile).
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: R45 on September 24, 2015, 10:38:49 AM
This also has some implications for T&T. When we settled our maritime border with Venezuela in 1990, part of our southern boundary that we agreed to was based on Venezuela's claim of half of Guyana, specifically the eastern-most portion of the southern line, near the end of our exclusive economic zone.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Sando prince on September 24, 2015, 10:58:50 AM
Shootout? Where is Guyana defense if not guarding it's own border?

The GDF doesn't have much of an operational capacity, especially for rural access - it has been an issue for decades. They've always had an issue with not having enough vehicles (or the right type) for those remote regions, or not having enough landing strips to gain access quickly (and not enough troop transport options). They just don't spend enough as a percentage of GDP compared to their neighbours.

This Venezuela-Guyana should be a CARICOM issue, but this is incredibly muddy since Venezuela has been buying CARICOM goodwill through PetroCaribe and other financial support. Honestly I think that was part of their strategy to divide CARICOM and keep their Guyana/Venezuela dispute in isolation. CARICOM is less likely now to have a uniform voice condemning Venezuela on the border dispute because of how deep some of the governments (especially the Lesser Antilles) are with Venezuelan social programs.

Failure on the part of past Guyanese administrations regardless how much one may want to sympathize with them on this particular point.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: asylumseeker on September 24, 2015, 12:06:35 PM
Historically, although Guyana has sought to address this issue through formal channels, it has not beat the drum sufficiently in terms of galvanizing world opinion and informal structures. When Chavez was at the height of being a scourge to the global community (to those opposed), Guyana had an opportunity to reap a tangible dividend. It did not capitalize on that reality.

In recent months, Guatemala has been fairly activist (as it has historically) on Belizean territory, and there seems to have been a parallel vacuum in state capacity to act (parallel vis-a-vis Guyana), with the most vocal and expressive actors being non-state actors. Recently saw footage of Belizean environmentalists confronting the Guatemalan navy and roundly condemning Dean Barrow's 'silence'.

R45, I regard the PetroCaribe concern as overstated.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: asylumseeker on September 24, 2015, 12:07:18 PM
Shootout? Where is Guyana defense if not guarding it's own border?

The GDF doesn't have much of an operational capacity, especially for rural access - it has been an issue for decades. They've always had an issue with not having enough vehicles (or the right type) for those remote regions, or not having enough landing strips to gain access quickly (and not enough troop transport options). They just don't spend enough as a percentage of GDP compared to their neighbours.

This Venezuela-Guyana should be a CARICOM issue, but this is incredibly muddy since Venezuela has been buying CARICOM goodwill through PetroCaribe and other financial support. Honestly I think that was part of their strategy to divide CARICOM and keep their Guyana/Venezuela dispute in isolation. CARICOM is less likely now to have a uniform voice condemning Venezuela on the border dispute because of how deep some of the governments (especially the Lesser Antilles) are with Venezuelan social programs.

Failure on the part of past Guyanese administrations regardless how much one may want to sympathize with them on this particular point.

Guyana can't afford it.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: ribbit on September 24, 2015, 12:39:50 PM
this situation almost tailor made for US intervention. dis eh ukraine or syria. de US can fly in, kick venezuela back, make maduro sweat a bit more, and hand out medal in time for christmas. venezuela better watch dey selves!
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Deeks on September 24, 2015, 12:54:10 PM
So what if we had a Federation with Guyana in it. What allyuh think woulda happen?
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: R45 on September 24, 2015, 01:23:46 PM
Historically, although Guyana has sought to address this issue through formal channels, it has not beat the drum sufficiently in terms of galvanizing world opinion and informal structures. When Chavez was at the height of being a scourge to the global community (to those opposed), Guyana had an opportunity to reap a tangible dividend. It did not capitalize on that reality.

In recent months, Guatemala has been fairly activist (as it has historically) on Belizean territory, and there seems to have been a parallel vacuum in state capacity to act (parallel vis-a-vis Guyana), with the most vocal and expressive actors being non-state actors. Recently saw footage of Belizean environmentalists confronting the Guatemalan navy and roundly condemning Dean Barrow's 'silence'.

R45, I regard the PetroCarribe concern as overstated.

I'm not saying that Caricom support for Guyana is impossible, but Petrocaribe and other Venezuelans programs will put some Caribbean countries that have benefited greatly from Venezuela since Chavez (especially St. Vincent and Dominica) in a very awkward position to bite the hand that is feeding them.

I think part of Guyana's problem/inability to lobby is due to their poor relations with powers. During the anti-Chavez time, the natural ally would have been with the US. However Guyana's relationship with the US is not very good. A good recent case is when they made Henry Greene their Commissioner of Police. This was very much protested by the US/Canada/UK, and Greene had strong ties with the drug trade but Jagdeo went ahead and maintained the appointment. That ended up scuttling tons of joint operations between the US (and others) and both the Guyanese police and defense force, and lots of foreign aid.

Historically Guyana was more aligned with the Soviets/Russians, but it doesn't even seem like that relationship is very strong either. Instead, at least in my opinion, Guyana is isolated on many fronts (through many of its own actions), including within Caricom, relative to its South American neighbours, and globally. Let's not forget that Guyana also still has active territory disputes with Suriname and French Guiana.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Deeks on September 24, 2015, 02:18:54 PM
Allyuh know that is also a British problem. Or was created by the Brits when they were a superpower
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: R45 on September 24, 2015, 02:35:22 PM
Allyuh know that is also a British problem. Or was created by the Brits when they were a superpower

Only one of many - almost every modern territory dispute in the Americas can be traced back to disputes between the competing colonization powers from the 16th to 20th centuries.

We had our own disputes with Venezuela, specifically over the boundary in the gulf and some of our outlying islands (like Patos and Soldado). Fortunately it was mutually resolved in 1942 and hasn't been a major issue since (well despite fishermen getting arrested in our waters, but the border line isn't disputed).

In this Guyana/Venezuela case, another factor here is all of the Amerindian tribes that live in the area. Not much is really said about what rights they have, when some of them are living in the same area/region (including where is being disputed) for centuries prior to Columbus. Guyana has a fairly high percentage of both intact tribes and people of Amerindian/Indigenous descent.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: asylumseeker on September 24, 2015, 02:58:14 PM
Another ingredient in this mix is a sort of cultural legacy. For decades in Venezuela it was common to see this sense of ownership (of the territory in question) passed down generationally through everyday icons such as car stickers and household adornments. They probably even learn it in school. I was surprised to see private vehicles emblazoned with stickers showing a map shape markedly different to the shape of the country we are taught.

Frankly, once Maduro started repatriating Colombians, I saw this developing on the other border. It fits his faux-Napoleonic narrative.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: asylumseeker on September 24, 2015, 03:03:18 PM
Allyuh know that is also a British problem. Or was created by the Brits when they were a superpower

Correct. The Brits fixed problems to accommodate their immediate interests, but not for all time. Their diplomatic footprint is global and accomplished.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: asylumseeker on September 24, 2015, 03:20:52 PM
this situation almost tailor made for US intervention. dis eh ukraine or syria. de US can fly in, kick venezuela back, make maduro sweat a bit more, and hand out medal in time for christmas. venezuela better watch dey selves!

Even assuming intervention, how would the integrity of the Guyanese border position be protected subsequent to US intervention?

Also, doh feel just because "iz Venezuela" that the issue possesses a walk-in-the-park solution. Certainly, despite varying degrees of intolerance towards Maduro across the continent, any US intervention would be greeted with much less than a welcome. One can't ignore the history and consequences of the US in Latin America. Additionally, would any such action distract the US' rapprochement with Cuba?

Also to be considered is whether the Venezuelan military strengthens or weakens in the process.

What is morale within the ranks?

What's in the US national interest?
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: R45 on September 24, 2015, 04:37:22 PM
Even assuming intervention, how would the integrity of the Guyanese border position be protected subsequent to US intervention?

Also, doh feel just because "iz Venezuela" that the issue possesses a walk-in-the-park solution. Certainly, despite varying degrees of intolerance towards Maduro across the continent, any US intervention would be greeted with much less than a welcome. One can't ignore the history and consequences of the US in Latin America. Additionally, would any such action distract the US' rapprochement with Cuba?

Also to be considered is whether the Venezuelan military strengthens or weakens in the process.

What is morale within the ranks?

What's in the US national interest?
Additionally, US / Guyana relations are not great, and that would not only be a tough sell to the US public but a tough one for the Guyanese gov't to get to that point request intervention.

I think if this were to escalate, we would probably expect to see Brazil play a role, since the disputed area borders Brazil and both Venezuela/Guyana hold long borders with it (and Brazil is biggest player on the continent). It would be in Brazil's interests not to have this blow up right next door (also in T&T's might I add).
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Sando prince on September 24, 2015, 09:48:10 PM

Hmmmm  :thinking:

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150924/business/rowley-gets-courtesy-call-from-venezuela-delegation

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Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley received a courtesy call on Tuesday from a delegation from Venezuela led by Minister of People’s Power for Foreign Affairs of Venezuela, Delcy Rodríguez Gómez, a release from the Office of the Prime Minister has said
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Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Sando prince on September 24, 2015, 09:49:25 PM

Hmmmm  :thinking:

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150924/business/rowley-gets-courtesy-call-from-venezuela-delegation

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Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley received a courtesy call on Tuesday from a delegation from Venezuela led by Minister of People’s Power for Foreign Affairs of Venezuela, Delcy Rodríguez Gómez, a release from the Office of the Prime Minister has said
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I believe T&T can play a major role by mediating this Guyana / Venezuela conflict. However we must seize the opportunity right away.

Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: frico on September 25, 2015, 04:40:11 AM
Call in the Brits,they had Jagan kicked out years ago,they can show their strength again.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: R45 on September 25, 2015, 07:31:15 AM

Hmmmm  :thinking:

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150924/business/rowley-gets-courtesy-call-from-venezuela-delegation

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Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley received a courtesy call on Tuesday from a delegation from Venezuela led by Minister of People’s Power for Foreign Affairs of Venezuela, Delcy Rodríguez Gómez, a release from the Office of the Prime Minister has said
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Not necessarily related. One of Rowley's campaign promises was to get an agreement signed to develop some of the fields on the Venezuelan/TT border, and usually after election all of the resident ambassadors meet with the new PM within the first few weeks.

It would be a good time for Rowley to raise concerns about the Guyana issue escalating, however he may also be torn on keeping focus on the gas agreement - for years Chavez largely ignored Manning and did not respond to our requests to talk about the developing some of those fields - it took Fidel Castro intervening to get them to the table and get a MOU signed. That was pretty late in the last Manning administration.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Sando prince on September 25, 2015, 09:09:11 AM
I know its not necessary related. The article however establish the on-going talks between T&T and our energy partner Venezuela. T&T and Venezuela has a stronger relationship now and T&T has the opportunity to be a key player in the escalating tension between our Caricom brother Guyana and our partner Venezuela since we have relationships with both countries. 
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: asylumseeker on September 25, 2015, 09:36:40 AM
In recent days, Venezuela has been very active across the English-speaking Caribbean.

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Photos of a Venezuelan delegation, led by Foreign Minister Delcy Rodriguez, in Trinidad and Tobago.

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President Maduro in St. Kitts-Nevis.

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St. Lucia

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St. Kitts-Nevis where agreements on health and housing were signed.

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President Maduro in Dominica.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: asylumseeker on September 25, 2015, 09:41:46 AM
https://twitter.com/NicolasMaduro/status/646864219288281088/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: R45 on September 25, 2015, 10:15:32 AM
I know its not necessary related. The article however establish the on-going talks between T&T and our energy partner Venezuela. T&T and Venezuela has a stronger relationship now and T&T has the opportunity to be a key player in the escalating tension between our Caricom brother Guyana and our partner Venezuela since we have relationships with both countries. 

I agree at a level, but I think Rowley & company are going to have a tough job balancing issues. Venezuela's Guayana Esequiba claim is long-standing and nationalistic, so trying to mediate that is sensitive and could distract from bi-lateral talks over energy development.

I don't necessarily agree that we have a "strong" relationship with Venezuela. Our relationship with them has always been very cool/warm. Our joint development of those fields straddling our border has huge hurdles, including ideological gaps with Venezuela's views on foreign investment and nationalizing their oil industry (we are certainly more liberal/foreign friendly), and they've used PDVSA to be fairly hostile to the major Oilcos in the last decade - those Oilcos operate heavily in T&T and are at the core of our development.

Actually getting an agreement signed is going to take a lot of work, and if we are lobbying them to back off from their territory claims, it might derail the energy talks. Out of all the Caribbean countries, Cuba is probably best positioned to mediate the dispute.
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Sando prince on September 25, 2015, 10:21:22 AM
PM: Guyana/Venezuela border dispute will be resolved


PRIME Minister Dr Keith Rowley expects that the ongoing border dispute between Venezuela and Guyana will be “resolved in the best interest of all and in accordance with international law”.

Rowley conveyed his expectation to a high-level delegation from Venezuela that visited this country on Tuesday.

He also told the delegation he expects that “neither side will do anything to escalate” the dispute.

On Tuesday President of Guyana David Granger said that Venezuela had deployed troops to a contested border region between the two countries.

Granger told reporters that Venezuela made “extraordinary military deployments” along what Guyana considers its western border.

Venezuela and Guyana have been engaged in an ongoing dispute over an area known as the Essequibo.

Guyana has asked the United Nations to mediate the border dispute and Granger is expected to raise the issue at the upcoming General Assembly meeting.

A release from the Office of the Prime Minister stated that Rowley “received a High-Level Delegation from the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, led by Venezuela’s Minister of People’s Power for Foreign Affairs Delcy Rodríguez Gómez.

Venezuela’s Minister of People’s Power for Oil and Mining and the Minister of People’s Power for Economy and Finance were also present.

“During the courtesy call, Prime Minister Rowley recalled the commitment given to him by His Excellency Nicolás Maduro, President of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela to despatch a high–level Ministerial team to Trinidad and Tobago, in the shortest possible time, to pursue cooperation in areas of mutual interest.

“The Prime Minister highlighted the scope for meaningful collaboration in the energy, trade and security sectors as well as culture and the arts, among others.

He cited the benefits to both countries of accelerating exploitation of the Loran-Manatee cross-border field and of joint efforts to counter the illicit trade in small arms and narcotics,” a release from the Office of the Prime minister stated.

Rowley also addressed the Venezuela and Guyana border dispute.

“In respect of the situation between Guyana and Venezuela, the Prime Minister conveyed the expectation that the situation would be resolved in the best interest of all, in accordance with international law, and that neither side would do anything to escalate the situation,” the release stated.

Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Sando prince on September 25, 2015, 10:56:24 PM

https://www.youtube.com/v/h6W-JN7RkUc
Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Sando prince on September 26, 2015, 08:06:55 PM

Guyana showcases military skills in face of Venezuela buildup


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Title: Re: Venezuela saber rattling on Guyana
Post by: Sando prince on September 26, 2015, 08:08:32 PM

Guyana showcases military skills in face of Venezuela buildup


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Guyana bringing out dem big bad nuclear build up to guard dem border.  :)

Chief of Staff Brigadier Mark Phillips is talking tough. Man ready to fight for their country and not let Venezuela take advantage of them.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2015/09/26/guyana-showcases-military-skills-in-face-of-venezuela-buildup/

 
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: asylumseeker on January 26, 2016, 03:11:16 PM
Venezuela has been announced as having three cities in the Top Ten most violent cities in the world ... Caracas being deemed the most violent city in the world.
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: R45 on January 26, 2016, 03:23:03 PM
Situation in Venezuela today is crazy and scary. Saw some relatives who had been there in November - they spent 3 hours looking for milk, bread, and meat (going from grocery to grocery, stores empty). Inflation is absolutely insane - a quote for changing a tire doubled in a space of two weeks. I feel for people who are powerless in that situation.
Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: kounty on January 27, 2016, 12:10:59 PM
Situation in Venezuela today is crazy and scary. Saw some relatives who had been there in November - they spent 3 hours looking for milk, bread, and meat (going from grocery to grocery, stores empty). Inflation is absolutely insane - a quote for changing a tire doubled in a space of two weeks. I feel for people who are powerless in that situation.
yeah saw this on the news in trini the otherday. highest inflation rate in the world now they say. low oil prices do all that? (or is a concerted effort by babylon a la zimbabwe)?

Title: Re: World Turns a Blind Eye to Crisis in Venezuela
Post by: R45 on January 27, 2016, 12:56:06 PM
yeah saw this on the news in trini the otherday. highest inflation rate in the world now they say. low oil prices do all that? (or is a concerted effort by babylon a la zimbabwe)?

I don't think it would be fair to attribute it to one thing. Venezuela has for years had wealth inequality, but the measures started by Chavez to address/reverse it has over the last decade largely killed private enterprise. When the oil dollar was high, it was something they could throw oil dollars at (big welfare state, very little real economic development outside oil and gas). Now with the oil price shocks, they have no foreign currency and a completely damaged local economy. Venezuela imports most of its food (agriculture never developed) and basic goods, so with no foreign exchange, basic inflation is literally killing people.

It's very sad to see and the situation is so unstable, people in T&T need to keep their eyes on it (both from just watching your neighbours house on fire [i.e. water your own roof], but also learn from their mistakes).
Title: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on May 25, 2016, 02:25:21 AM
US$50M trade deal with Venezuela.
By Clint Chan Tack (Newsday)
Tuesday, May 24 2016


TRINIDAD and Tobago and Venezuela yesterday reached agreement on a US$50 million revolving fund, that will be used by Venezuela to purchase critical manufactured goods from this country, for its citizens.

The announcement was made by Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro and Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley, following bilateral discussions at the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann’s.

The trade agreement was reached against the backdrop of Venezuelan citizens protesting outside of the Diplomatic Centre about the inability of their countrymen being unable to access many basic goods (including food and medicine) within their nation, which continues to be gripped by social and political unrest. (See Page 5) Recalling that his country’s liberators found refuge in TT and the mutual respect which both nations share for each other, Maduro announced key agreements on energy and security which he and Rowley had reached at the end of their discussions. “We have also decided to increase the trade flow between the two nations,” Maduro said, adding this involves establishment of a revolving US$50 million fund by his government.

He explained that through this fund, “We will be able to strengthen the trade flow between TT and the eastern part of Venezuela.” In noting that Maduro was the first foreign Head of State to be hosted by his administration, since it assumed office last September, Rowley said TT was, “pleased that financing has been put in place to enable cross border trade of manufactured items.” Observing that the people of TT and Venezuela share common challenges, Rowley said, “We look forward from TT to provide some significant relief to the people of Venezuela.” Expressing satisfaction with the agreements on trade, security and energy which both countries agreed upon at the end of yesterday’s bilateral discussions, Rowley said the groundwork began in conversations between both governments since last September.

Describing Maduro’s visit as very productive and very useful, the Prime Minister declared, “As we move on to the execution phase, the outcomes of these decisions will have far reaching positive consequences for the people of Venezuela and the people of TT.” Speaking afterwards with reporters about the trade agreement, Trade and Industry Minister Paula Gopee-Scoon identified chicken, butter, ketchup, rice and black beans as some items which could be going to Venezuela under this agreement.

Indicating that her ministry had already provided the Venezuelan government with a list of manufactured goods in TT, Gopee-Scoon said details will be fleshed out when the Venezuelan vice trade minister and a delegation of Venezuelan private sector representatives, visit this country next week.

She also gave the assurance that there would be, “easy and swift payment to manufacturers within a reasonable time frame as well.” Asked which local manufacturers would be providing goods to Venezuela under this agreement, Gopee-Scoon said her ministry would inform the media accordingly as the details are fleshed out in the coming weeks.

Gopee-Scoon, who served as foreign affairs minister in the former Patrick Manning administration, said that Government recognised the current state of affairs in Venezuela.

However she said the agreements reached between both nations yesterday was part and parcel of the continued strong diplomatic relations between the two countries.

Gopee-Scoon was one of several ministers who were part of Rowley’s delegation at yesterday’s bilateral talks. Attorney General Faris Al Rawi, Finance Minister Colm Imbert, Foreign and Caricom Affairs Minister Dennis Moses, Planning Minister Camille Robinson-Regis, Minister in the Ministry of the AG and Legal Affairs Stuart Young, National Security Minister Edmund Dillon and Energy Minister Nicole Olivierre were the other members of the Government’s delegation.

Maduro’s delegation included Venezuelan Foreign Affairs Minister Delcy Rodriguez, Petroleum and Mining Minister Eulogio del Pino, Industry and Commerce Minister Miguel Pérez Abad, Vice Minister for Latin American and Caribbean Affairs Alexander Yánez Deleuze and Venezuelan Ambassador to TT Coromoto Godoy Calderon.

TT, Venezuela talk prisoner exchange
T&T Newsday


PRIME MINISTER Dr Keith Rowley yesterday announced that National Security Minister Edmund Dillon will be going to Venezuela on May 30 for direct government to government talks that could lead to the repatriation of five TT nationals incarcerated in the South American nation on charges of terrorism to this country.

The talks which Dillon will have with his Venezuelan counterparts in Caracas next week will also be aimed at clamping down on the flow of illegal drugs and guns into TT, in order to curb crime in this country. “We agreed after discussions that we would take steps, on both sides of the border, to ensure our immigration and judicial processes repatriate our citizens currently in various states of detention on both sides of border,” Rowley said.

Agreeing with Maduro about the need to strengthen cross border security, Rowley said, “We also discussed at length the common purpose of reducing illicit activity in western Venezuela in so far as it affects the waters and territory of TT.” The Prime Minister said he and Maduro agreed that the security services of both countries meet as a matter of urgency and re-establish the joint TT-Venezuela security operation coordinating committee.

Rowley added that Dillon will also discuss this matter on May 30 and this will usher in a new era of security cooperation between both countries. Speaking afterwards with reporters, Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi said the matter of repatriation of the five TT nationals was not contingent on any type of trade or relief from this country being offered to Venezuela.

“The issue of Trinidadian citizens who have been held in detention in Caracas, is the subject of judicial process in Caracas.

We have been tracking this issue since we came into office,” Al-Rawi.

On a time frame for the repatriation of the five TT nationals and some 18 Venezuelan nationals detained in TT, Al-Rawi said both countries have agreed that these matters should be handled with alacrity.

Asked what would happen to these persons once they are repatriated, the AG replied, “That’s a matter for us at the AG’s Office to manage in conjunction with the Minister of National Security.” Saying all persons have the benefit of being innocent until proven guilty, Al-Rawi explained, “These are allegations in a foreign territory.

The method for designation of terrorism, if that’s your question, is one which only happens after conviction.” When a reporter asked if these persons would be subject to this country’s judicial system when they are repatriated, Al-Rawi replied, “Why so pessimistic? Let’s get the facts first. Law ought not to be done on the side of a room.

There is a judicial process to be followed and due process must be followed. Al-Rawi said matters arising out of yesterday’s talks with Maduro would not cause any diplomatic problems with the United States or any other country TT has ties with.

Trini Venezuelans outraged
By MIRANDA LA ROSE
Tuesday, May 24 2016


SURPRISE gave way to frustration and then outrage among a group of Venezuelans living in this country, as local police used two buses to block their pots and pan protest from the view of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, as his entourage entered the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann’s.

Some of the protestors wept in frustration while others - mainly women - confronted heavily armed police officers demanding their human right to publicly protest not be infringed. Had the vehicle transporting Maduro slowed down and the glasses wound down, he would clearly have heard angry chants of, “Get out Maduro!”, by the protestors.

Mixed in with the Venezuelan natives were supporters and relatives of five Trinidadian Muslims who have been in custody in Venezuela for the past three years. As the buses were driven and parked strategically on the roadway, the shouts of “Get out Maduro” turned to “Remove the buses!” The two 25-seater buses had earlier transported a guardof- honour and band members.

As Maduro’s entourage left the Office of the President and made its way to the private entrance of the official residence of Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley, the police moved the two buses, one behind the other, into position and blocked the protestors who were banging on empty pots and pans and shouting slogans for Maduro to demit office.

As the buses were being moved, activist Yesenia Gonzalez broke away from the group of protestors, and made her way to the pavement facing Queen’s Hall and prostrated herself on the ground. As the convoy of vehicles approached, Gonzalez tried to break free to get on to the street but five police officers in riot gear restrained her.

The tight blanket of security that covered the area included over 12 police cars and the two buses. They took up strategic positions along St Ann’s Road long before the arrival of the convoy.

In the background, on President’s Grounds were armed camouflage- clad soldiers. In brief remarks, Gonzalez told reporters that their protest was sabotaged.

She said Maduro could run, “but he cannot hide!” “There is no food. No medicine.

No toilet paper. Children are dying for want of medical care,” she shouted. Asked what they will do next, she said, the plan is to go home and continue praying.

“We are going to pray hard to get this man out of office!” Asked if they could have been blocked for protesting in Venezuela, she said, “Worse. We could get killed.” She said she did not expect to be grabbed when all she was carrying was a crucifix and Venezuela’s national flag. Faye Torres, through her tears said, “The police prevented us from sending our message. They made us believe we had the privilege. They took away that privilege by blocking our messages.” Earlier, Beatriz Joseph told Newsday they were on the picket line to demand that Maduro demit office because his administration has destroyed the economy, destroyed institutions, failed to maintain the dams that provide hydro-electricity and have failed at providing basic services to the people.

Asked about TT and Venezuela entering into an energy agreement, Joseph said, “To my knowledge, Dr Keith Rowley is desperate also because he has his own cocoa in the sun.” It is disgusting, she said, to see TT being asked to assist Venezuela on humanitarian grounds.

Also on the picket line, but not in solidarity with the protesting Venezuelans, were some members of the Joint Trade Union Movement who stood in solidarity with Maduro. They assembled on the pavement outside Queen’s Hall before making their way outside the Office of the President.

They did not meet with the other protestors.

Among them was former general secretary of the Oilfield Workers Trade Union (OWTU) and Political Leader of the Movement for Social Justice David Abdulah. A member of the Steel Workers Union of TT told Newsday his presence was to warn the TT Government, “if you do not watch yourself, what is going on in Venezuela, could happen here.

“That is the statement. We are not supporting Maduro.”

Title: Re: US$50M trade deal with Venezuela to T&T.
Post by: asylumseeker on May 25, 2016, 05:38:32 AM
Prisoner exchange? Really?!!!!! On what basis?!!!! Send theirs back. Leave ours there?
Title: Venezuelans get food supply from T&T
Post by: Sando prince on June 23, 2016, 04:34:32 PM
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One of the Venezuela military aircrafts that landed at the Piarco International Airport on Thursday to transport local food items to Venezuela after a meeting with Venezuelan officials and the Ministry of Trade on Tuesday. -Photo: ROBERT TAYLOR

Venezuelans get food supply from T&T


Venezuela this morning began receiving the first batch of much needed food items from Trinidad and Tobago.

Early this morning, two cargo planes from Venezuela's military arrived at the Piarco International Airport and began airlifting tonnes of items including chicken tomato ketchup, spaghetti, milk and mayonnaise to the Latin American country, which is currently facing a food shortage.

VEMCO Limited director, national brands, Christopher Alcazar told the Express that US$100, 000 worth of Swiss Tomato Ketchup, Swiss Spaghetti, Kerrigold Powdered Milk and Swiss Mayonnaise were delivered to Venezuela. Arawak Company Limited's managing director Robin Phillips confirmed that a similar amount in chicken was also sent across.
Read More: http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160623/news/venezuelans-get-food-supply-from-tt
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Title: Re: Venezuelans get food supply from T&T
Post by: Sando prince on June 23, 2016, 11:29:47 PM

T&T has always been one of the more generous countries in the region. Throughout our post Independence history we have answered the call in several different ways to assist nations in our region. Every T&T government that has been office has done this
Title: Re: Venezuelans get food supply from T&T
Post by: g on June 24, 2016, 10:00:55 AM
This isn't generosity, this is a new trade market. The biggest concern was and probably will continue to be the reliability of the Venezuelan government to maintain their schedule of payments as per signed agreements. The first payments were received prior to airlifting this first shipment. Time will tell if this will be sustained on both sides as we can easily maximize our production capacity via this new market.
Title: Re: Venezuelans get food supply from T&T
Post by: Deeks on June 24, 2016, 01:07:10 PM
This isn't generosity, this is a new trade market. The biggest concern was and probably will continue to be the reliability of the Venezuelan government to maintain their schedule of payments as per signed agreements. The first payments were received prior to airlifting this first shipment. Time will tell if this will be sustained on both sides as we can easily maximize our production capacity via this new market.

Yes, that is how I interpret this trade. We can't afford to give aid at this moment. I would have ask for the TT national team to play in the Ven. pro-league as part of the concession.
Title: Re: Venezuelans get food supply from T&T
Post by: ribbit on June 24, 2016, 01:32:39 PM
a few years back when oil was high, venezuela had money to bail out argentina. now dey struggling to survive. an epic collapse.

they should rename "dutch disease" to "venezuela disease".
Title: Re: Venezuelans get food supply from T&T
Post by: ribbit on June 30, 2016, 11:59:08 AM
ah took in this short piece on recent venezuela elections:


https://www.youtube.com/v/HC7LInc3yDU


i didn't realize chavez STILL have such an effect on people. is that a revolutionary theme - living out de dream of the dead saviour - like guevara? they won't get far with that kind of mentality - they need to make some big changes.
Title: Re: Venezuelans get food supply from T&T
Post by: asylumseeker on February 07, 2019, 07:16:21 AM
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/08/world/08Venezuela-bridge/merlin_150266940_13d58ca4-bfcf-49ea-aaef-c0e8cf3db638-articleLarge.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp)

(Photo courtesy The New York Times)

There is nothing more emblematic of the Government of Trinidad and Tobago's failed foreign policy posture concerning Venezuela than Nicolás Maduro's move to block the delivery of humanitarian assistance to his fellow citizens.
Title: Re: Venezuelans get food supply from T&T
Post by: asylumseeker on February 10, 2019, 11:49:29 AM
Jumbie, dahis you contributing as "Jumbie" on Wired868 or someone else?
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 14, 2019, 05:34:05 AM
Venezuelan ‘sex ring’ victims still being treated.
By Ryan Hamilton-Davis (Newsday).


The 19 Venezuelan girls who were rescued by police from an alleged sex ring last Wednesday continue to receive treatment, both medical and psychological, as police investigate how they entered the country and how they were found.

National Security Minister, Stuart Young updated reporters during a press conference held at the Nat Sec Building on Abercromby Street yesterday.

Young yesterday thanked the Minister of Social Development Cherrie-Ann Crichlow-Cockburn for her assistance with the girls, saying that she stationed even more social workers at a safe house where the 19 girls are being kept.

Young said investigators are speaking with the girls, with the assistance of interpreters as they investigate the matter.

“We are hoping the information we get from there will help with further intelligence-driven operations,” Young said.

Young added that with the nation’s borders being heavily guarded by the Coast Guard, there has been a reduction in the influx of South Americans entering the country illegally, but noted as things worsen in Venezuela, there is a possibility that there would be more illegal immigrants coming into the country. Young said there was a policy which is expected in Parliament to treat with the influx of South Americans.

“The Ministry of National Security has been mandated by the prime minister to develop a policy to the registration of Venezuelans and how we deal with them. We are currently formulating that policy, which should be in my view a registration of all Venezuelans so we have them in a system.

“You hear all sorts of numbers being batted about, but just looking at the immigration records is not going to be sufficient. So the first part of that policy is that we will deal with registration of Venezuelans that are here and we will take further decision after that,” Young said.

Last Wednesday the Special Operations Response Team (SORT), under Commissioner of Police Gary Griffith, cracked down on a possible child sex ring, rescuing 19 girls between 15 and 17 from a house. Thirteen people were arrested in relation to the incident.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 14, 2019, 05:35:10 AM
Cousins held in Venezuela released.
By Seeta Persad (Newsday).


COUSINS Kenrick Morgan, 17, and 24-year-old Kendell Singh, who were allegedly kidnapped by Venezuelan pirates on January 14, have returned safely to their homes. The Moruga youths spent a month in captivity.

Morgan and Singh were kidnapped while fishing in the Columbus Channel in Moruga.

A relative of the cousins said a ransom of US$12,000, together with grocery items and a bucket of KFC, were handed over in exchange for their release.

Morgan was released at Erin, and Singh at Moruga between 3.30 and 4.30pm on Tuesday.

Ashley Boodoo, sister of Kenrick, said her brother was dehydrated and needed medical attention. Boodoo said he received intravenous fluids at the Siparia health facility, and he was then taken home to Moruga. She said he was not in a proper frame of mind to speak with the media.

But she said, “Our prayers have been answered. We know God was on our side and this nightmare will come to an end.”

Kenrick’s mother Linda Boodoo was too emotional to speak. “My mother knelt and prayed when she got the news,” said Ashley.

She said she would not like anyone else to experience such horror. “It is most distressing to know that your relative may be killed at any time.”

Her family continues to give praise to the Lord, she said, for keeping her younger brother alive while he was held captive.

After the cousins went missing, the families were reportedly contacted by phone by a Spanish-speaking man who told them if US$40,000 was not paid, the two would be killed. A photograph of the cousins with a man holding a gun to their heads was sent to the family.

The release of the two comes days after seven other men from the Morne Diablo area were returned to TT from Venezuela after also being held captive and ransoms demanded.

Title: Re: Venezuelans get food supply from T&T
Post by: asylumseeker on February 23, 2019, 04:20:19 PM
Jumbie, dahis you contributing as "Jumbie" on Wired868 or someone else?

If it is you, let me applaud the innings yuh bat in representing the contrarian view regarding Baldeosingh's article on intervention, South Africa and Venezuela.

Although it was not a Letter to the Editor without deficiencies, the core issue raised held merit.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: kounty on February 26, 2019, 08:24:31 PM
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/08/world/08Venezuela-bridge/merlin_150266940_13d58ca4-bfcf-49ea-aaef-c0e8cf3db638-articleLarge.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp)

(Photo courtesy The New York Times)

There is nothing more emblematic of the Government of Trinidad and Tobago's failed foreign policy posture concerning Venezuela than Nicolás Maduro's move to block the delivery of humanitarian assistance to his fellow citizens.

sharing koolaid?
democracy now..take a listen (https://www.democracynow.org/2019/2/25/the_coup_has_failed_now_the)
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on February 27, 2019, 02:11:38 AM
Was there supposed to be something in that article that disturbs my assertion?
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: lefty on February 27, 2019, 01:57:27 PM
My question is though.....should Venezuela's elitist oligarchy operating in concert with the US be allowed to simply win..........either way there is serious ramifications for T&Ts interests especially as it related to to dragon.......the human cost notwithstanding....there is clear and present danger to our interests either way rock and a hard place.........I have no confidence dat d nex set dat positioning deyself  to be puppets have we best interest at heart where this issue is regarded
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on February 27, 2019, 03:40:22 PM
My question is though.....should Venezuela's elitist oligarchy operating in concert with the US be allowed to simply win..........either way there is serious ramifications for T&Ts interests especially as it related to to dragon.......the human cost notwithstanding....there is clear and present danger to our interests either way rock and a hard place.........I have no confidence dat d nex set dat positioning deyself  to be puppets have we best interest at heart where this issue is regarded

Is "in concert with the US" a fair and comprehensive charge doh? Canada's foreign policy orientation and global standing is weighted differently than the US and Canada has been at the diplomatic, activist pointed edge of taking on Maduro's bankrupt leadership. We are a bit beyond the hemispheric politics of Venezuela being in the US' backyard. I don't agree with the polarity of the US being the biggest winner or only winner post-Maduro and that US orchestration will persist post-Maduro.

The narrative of pro-US and anti-US is from a vocabulary that should be retired from Latin American simplification of US interests, but it won't even die a slow death.

Otherwise, you touch precisely on an aspect of why I regard T&T's foreign policy as failed. Karma is positioned to be a diplomatic bitch.

By the way, some of the elites are part of the Maduro inheritance (for example, Tareck El Aissami). They are not all resident in Chacao.

But, to be fair ... it is reasonable to distinguish within the strata between elites and elitist oligarchs.

I agree with our foreign policy to the extent that we should not be picking winners ... but, we also should not be picking losers. And we are "in concert" with a loser. He just hasn't lost yet officially.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: lefty on February 27, 2019, 08:56:43 PM
My question is though.....should Venezuela's elitist oligarchy operating in concert with the US be allowed to simply win..........either way there is serious ramifications for T&Ts interests especially as it related to to dragon.......the human cost notwithstanding....there is clear and present danger to our interests either way rock and a hard place.........I have no confidence dat d nex set dat positioning deyself  to be puppets have we best interest at heart where this issue is regarded

Is "in concert with the US" a fair and comprehensive charge doh? Canada's foreign policy orientation and global standing is weighted differently than the US and Canada has been at the diplomatic, activist pointed edge of taking on Maduro's bankrupt leadership. We are a bit beyond the hemispheric politics of Venezuela being in the US' backyard. I don't agree with the polarity of the US being the biggest winner or only winner post-Maduro and that US orchestration will persist post-Maduro.

The narrative of pro-US and anti-US is from a vocabulary that should be retired from Latin American simplification of US interests, but it won't even die a slow death.

Otherwise, you touch precisely on an aspect of why I regard T&T's foreign policy as failed. Karma is positioned to be a diplomatic bitch.

By the way, some of the elites are part of the Maduro inheritance (for example, Tareck El Aissami). They are not all resident in Chacao.

But, to be fair ... it is reasonable to distinguish within the strata between elites and elitist oligarchs.

I agree with our foreign policy to the extent that we should not be picking winners ... but, we also should not be picking losers. And we are "in concert" with a loser. He just hasn't lost yet officially.
therein lies d rub, we need dragon to be on stream and as it stands our "neutrality" is hinged on an agreement "in principle" that makes us neutral only in official position, a more delicate approach may have been to put in place the refugee structure we are now hastily seeking to build and let the matter play out as organically as possible. The gov't perceived hostile position on refugees certainly does not help our current predicament
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on February 27, 2019, 09:02:24 PM
Perceived hostility to refugees? ;D
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: kounty on February 28, 2019, 06:31:10 AM
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/08/world/08Venezuela-bridge/merlin_150266940_13d58ca4-bfcf-49ea-aaef-c0e8cf3db638-articleLarge.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp)

(Photo courtesy The New York Times)

There is nothing more emblematic of the Government of Trinidad and Tobago's failed foreign policy posture concerning Venezuela than Nicolás Maduro's move to block the delivery of humanitarian assistance to his fellow citizens.
Was there supposed to be something in that article that disturbs my assertion?
Quote
The United Nations, the Red Cross and other relief organizations have refused to work with the U.S. on delivering aid to Venezuela, which they say is politically motivated. Venezuela has allowed aid to be flown in from Russia and from some international organizations, but it has refused to allow in aid from the United States, describing it as a Trojan horse for an eventual U.S. invasion.

be fair and call out everybody else.

block semantics and say you on one side and you want t&t to be on that side.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on February 28, 2019, 08:40:40 AM
Believe it or not, all aid is politically motivated and all aid comes with a price. Second, neutrality is a fundamental underpinning of the operations of relief and international organizations like the UN. Nothing surprising about their position. They have to protect their ability to effect their core mission without compromising it in the absence of a lack of consultation/consensus (between the US and Venezuelan authorities) about the delivery of such aid.

Another US administration would have finessed this differently through back channels. It is certainly more difficult to finesse Kim Jong-un than Maduro. What's preventing penetration with Maduro? (Among the answers to that question are the futures of individuals such as El Aissami mentioned above  and Elías Jaua).

The Venezuela issue is not an issue on which any government about these parts should be neutral. Who are we kidding? We have a crisis that has manifested direct implications and consequences within our borders and we feign pretence at neutrality? We are not neutral. On the one hand we are economic opportunists leveraging political cowardice, a lack of moral authority and a lack of leadership and on the other hand we could have seen these days coming many moons ago. Yet, nothing in our policy suggests that we have been anything other than reacting reflexively to the Venezuelan presence within the country.

At the time I posted, I was aware of the Trojan horse concern but it bolsters rather than undermines my view. If the analysis for Maduro comes down to covering his ass or feeding his people, we know what he would choose. And the blockage of the Tienditas bridge is as I stated emblematic of the nonsense.

Do we really have an interest in halting the migratory flow? If so, what should our foreign policy reflect to get us there?
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: lefty on February 28, 2019, 03:57:45 PM
Perceived hostility to refugees? ;D

the gov't approach is more akin to abdication than hostile in my view, the in/actions of related agencies is enough evidence of that.....on the ground it's more a "keep yuh head down and we won't bother you" type posture, what is hostile is the side effects of the intentional tunnel vision by gov't, re: labour and sex exploitation by the general public, other than that, most move freely within our shores as it stands....I from south so I "interact", read, share public spaces with them regularly, If you get "caught", busted sex ring and what have you, the gov't will act, but it doh have nutten proactive goin on in any shape or form regarding repatriation or regularization.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on March 06, 2019, 01:24:18 AM
12 Venezuelans arrested in Point
T&T Guardian Reports


Po­lice ar­rest­ed 12 Venezue­lans in Point Fortin on on Car­ni­val Mon­day.

The group of ten men, one woman and a 14-year-old girl were found by po­lice along South Cen­tral Road, Point Fortin. They were all charged with be­ing in the coun­try il­le­gal­ly.

They were tak­en in­to cus­tody at the Point Fortin Po­lice Sta­tion and the Im­mi­gra­tion and Counter-Traf­fick­ing Units were con­tact­ed.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on March 07, 2019, 05:48:42 AM
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THANKS GOES OUT TO ALL THE TRINI MEN FOR CARNIVAL

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on March 08, 2019, 05:42:41 PM
Believe it or not, all aid is politically motivated and all aid comes with a price. Second, neutrality is a fundamental underpinning of the operations of relief and international organizations like the UN. Nothing surprising about their position. They have to protect their ability to effect their core mission without compromising it in the absence of a lack of consultation/consensus (between the US and Venezuelan authorities) about the delivery of such aid.

Another US administration would have finessed this differently through back channels. It is certainly more difficult to finesse Kim Jong-un than Maduro. What's preventing penetration with Maduro? (Among the answers to that question are the futures of individuals such as El Aissami mentioned above  and Elías Jaua).

The Venezuela issue is not an issue on which any government about these parts should be neutral. Who are we kidding? We have a crisis that has manifested direct implications and consequences within our borders and we feign pretence at neutrality? We are not neutral. On the one hand we are economic opportunists leveraging political cowardice, a lack of moral authority and a lack of leadership and on the other hand we could have seen these days coming many moons ago. Yet, nothing in our policy suggests that we have been anything other than reacting reflexively to the Venezuelan presence within the country.

At the time I posted, I was aware of the Trojan horse concern but it bolsters rather than undermines my view. If the analysis for Maduro comes down to covering his ass or feeding his people, we know what he would choose. And the blockage of the Tienditas bridge is as I stated emblematic of the nonsense.

Do we really have an interest in halting the migratory flow? If so, what should our foreign policy reflect to get us there?

De shot call today. (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/venezuelan-minister-and-former-vice-president-tareck-zaidan-el-aissami-maddah-charged)
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on March 15, 2019, 04:14:06 AM
Young on V’zlan influx: Many jobs on offer in T&T
By Sean Douglas (Newsday).


MINISTER of National Security Stuart Young said this country has many jobs on offer, including new opportunities in the reconstruction of East Port of Spain, replying to Newsday’s query as to whether Venezuelan migrants were pushing T&T nationals out of jobs.

At yesterday’s post-Cabinet briefing at the Diplomatic Centre, St Ann’s, Newsday asked if his recent promise to regularise Venezuelans to work for up to a year in T&T could create a labour market distortion by migrants exploited to work for far lower wages than locals.

Promising a Cabinet note next week on the registration of Venezuelans, Young addressed the alleged distortion of the labour market.

“Quite frankly, we'll deal with that as it comes.

“One of the reasons we want to do registration is to ensure that Venezuelans who are registered can work. It is to deal exactly with the exploitation, because now they will be covered, and don’t have to be fearful that they are not here lawfully. One of the ways people exploit them is to say, ‘You are not here legally and I’m going to call the authorities for you unless you do this,' or they are hiding because they want to do things under the table.”

Young said the registration process will deal with that, after which it will be an "open market" for labour.

“It continues to be speculation, because at this stage we do not have an accurate figure, and that’s what I want to deal with: an accurate figure of how many Venezuelans are really here.”

He reckoned the country has many jobs on offer.

“There continue to be jobs in the newspaper. You look every day on the Internet, etcetera, there are jobs available. There are workplaces that are calling out for labour.

“As the number of government projects starts to increase – you’ve heard the Minister of Housing (Edmund Dillon) here talk today about a massive project we’re going to do in east Port of Spain – there’s going to be an increase in the need for labour in the market.”

Young said the regularisation of Venezuelan migrants will be observed “as we go along.”

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Deeks on March 15, 2019, 06:46:25 AM
Newsday asked if his recent promise to regularise Venezuelans to work for up to a year in T&T could create a labour market distortion by migrants exploited to work for far lower wages than locals.

Duh!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on March 23, 2019, 12:01:01 AM
34 Venezuelans plead guilty.
By Laurel Williams (Newsday).


THIRTY-FOUR Venezuelans, among them 14 women, appeared in the Siparia Magistrates’ Court yesterday when each pleaded guilty for entering the Trinidad illegally.

The foreigners appeared in the second court before magistrate Ava Vandenberg-Bailey who read that on unknown dates at unknown locations they entered the country and failed to report to immigration as required by law. South Western Division police arrested the 34 over the weekend at Erin, San Flora and Siparia.

Legal officer Sheldon Salazar prosecuted and interpreter/ translator Luz Marina Tapias translated yesterday. The Venezuelans were between the ages of 18 and 42 and cannot speak English. Among them were Yurismeel Flores,42, and her 18-year-old son Kirry Jimenez and Jose Luis Cantillo, 35, and his brother Cesar Cantillo Payola,18. Many of the women told the court they are homemakers, students and a hairdresser. One of the women, Jessica Martinez, 28, via the translator, said she works in a bakery in Venezuela. She has a one-month-old baby who was born in Trinidad. When police detained her, the baby remained in the care of a sitter.

Some of the men said they are students of different schools, plumbers, labourers and have families to take care off. They came to Trinidad to seek better lives given the economic, social and political hardships in their homeland. During the hearing, many of the Venezuelans wept.

After the magistrate reprimand and discharged them, they said “gracias” (thank you) in unison. But the Venezuelans remain in police custody and are expected to be deported.

After the case was called, two of the men seen earlier crying in the court alleged that “Fyzabad police” seized US$150 from them while they were in custody at the station. Speaking in Spanish, one said he is waiting for police to return his US$90.

Another said police did not return US$60 and a cell phone. As they were being led out, they asked this reporter for help to recover the money and phone.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on March 24, 2019, 12:27:15 AM
Venezuelans denied entry, sues State.
By Jensen La Vende (Newsday).


HIGH COURT judge Justice Carol Gobin yesterday ordered that eight Venezuelans, out of 14 rejected by immigration at the Piarco International Airport on Thursday, not to be deported, pending the outcome of their lawsuit against the State.

In her written ruling, Gobin gave an interim order stopping the rejection order against the Venezuelans and allowed them to file their claim by tomorrow challenging the decision to refuse them entry. The Venezuelans are being represented by a team of lawyers from Regius Chambers – Wayne Sturge, Mario Merritt, Lemuel Murphy, Abigail Roach, Kirby Jackson, Shirvani Ramkissoon and Keishel Grant.

On Thursday, 14 Venezuelans were denied entry and according to their attorneys, they were not given any reason. Merritt said in the absence of an acceptance by T&T, the Venezuelans are in the care of the airline that brought them, Venezolana. The airline, he said, does not have an office in the country and a local travel agency was the one caring for them. Merritt told Sunday Newsday that of the 14, eight were housed at a guest house in Arouca.

The Venezuelans are locked in their rooms with no cellphones, he said, and are kept in rooms with more people than beds. He added that none of the Venezuelans were told why they could not enter the country after they presented the necessary documents and information on their finances during their stay. Two brothers who came with a letter from their relative in T&T were separated after one was denied entry and the other allowed to enter. Merritt said there was an arbitrary denial of his clients which needed to be addressed.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on March 24, 2019, 12:28:03 AM
V’zuelan children not taken away from parents.
By Sean Douglas (Newsday).


THE children of illegal migrants from Venezuela recently held at Cedros were not separated from their parents to be held by the State, assured Stuart Young, Minister of National Security. He replied to an urgent question by Oropouche West MP Vidia Gayadeen-Gopeesingh, last Friday in the House of Representatives, who asked if the five children in the group of 10 people had been admitted to the Child Protection Unit at the Oropouche Police Station.

“No,” Young replied. “The immigration officers took the very humane decision, after doing an assessment of these Venezuelans including the children, and decided to release them on supervision orders.

“So they were not detained for any length of time and they were not sent to the police station.”

Gayadeen-Gopeesingh asked if there was any set policy or procedure to deal with children of Venezuelan migrants?

Young replied, “All children who are within the borders of T&T fall under our suite of children’s legislation. However in immigration matters, the Immigration Division can take decisions with respect to the detaining of persons who have entered illegally or who have overstayed their visits. So with respect to these particular children, that was utilised.

“With respect to other children, Venezuelan or otherwise, the Children’s Authority is the body that has jurisdiction over them when they’ve run afoul of the law, which would include overstaying. They work hand in hand with our Immigration Division.”

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on March 27, 2019, 03:27:04 PM
Immigration agrees to supervision orders for 8 Venezuelans
By Jada Loutoo (Newsday).


Detained at guesthouse for six days

AFTER being detained at a Trincity guesthouse for almost six days, a group of eight Venezuelans who were rejected by immigration at the Piarco International Airport, will be released and will be placed under supervision orders.

Today, immigration officials agreed to issue supervision orders for the eight who came into T&T last Thursday, after their attorneys filed a writ of habeas corpus application in the high court.

The Venezuelans are being represented by a team of lawyers from Regius Chambers – Wayne Sturge, Mario Merritt, Lemuel Murphy, Hasine Shaikh, Kirby Joseph, Delicia Helwig-Robertson, Shirvani Ramkissoon, Karunaa Bisramsingh and Danielle Rampersad.

The writ called on Nav Tours – the travel agency acting on behalf of the airline that brought the Venezuelans to T&T – to justify the continued detention of the eight.

The eight were in the care of the airline that brought them, Venezolana, but, since the airline does not have an office in the country, Nav Tours housed them at a guesthouse, awaiting instructions from immigration on what to do with them.

The eight were said to be locked in their rooms with no cellphones, and were kept in rooms with more people than beds.

On Saturday, a high court judge ordered that they not be deported, pending the outcome of their lawsuit against the Chief Immigration Officer (CIO).

Earlier today, their habeas corpus applications were listed for hearing before two judges at 11 am, and were called in two separate courts, at which time a request was made to have one judge hear all applications.

The matters were transferred to Justice Jacqueline Wilson, who was told of the agreement of the CIO to issue the supervision orders for the eight.

For two hours, the judge heard submissions on the question of who should pay the costs of the eight having to come to court.

The State, represented by attorney Coreen Findley, argued that at no time were the eight in the custody of the CIO, so the State should not have to pay costs to either party, despite agreeing to issue the supervision orders.

“They are not in the chief immigration officer’s custody,” she said, adding that the agreeing to the supervision orders was only to facilitate the judicial review claim of the eight.

“We have not detained the applications so we are not entitled to pay costs,” she said.

In the end, Wilson made no order for costs, saying that she saw nothing in the conduct of immigration to warrant the State having to pay the Venezuelans’ or Nav Tours’ costs.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on March 28, 2019, 08:58:02 AM
Venezuelans claim Immigration officers in racket
By Peter Christopher & Rhondor Dowlat (Guardian).


Bribes to stay in T&T

Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Min­is­ter Stu­art Young is chal­leng­ing ac­tivist Yese­nia Gon­za­les and oth­er Venezue­lan na­tion­als to bring ev­i­dence they have against Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cers they al­lege are tak­ing bribes from Venezue­lan na­tion­als seek­ing to gain en­try in­to T&T and to stay here af­ter their time has elapsed.

Young made the call yes­ter­day, hours af­ter Gon­za­les made the claim on CNC3’s The Morn­ing Brew and some of her com­pa­tri­ots backed up the al­le­ga­tion.

“A par­tic­u­lar per­son of Venezue­lan her­itage…let’s call her that…was mak­ing a whole host of al­le­ga­tions…I am call­ing on Ms Gon­za­les, if she has ev­i­dence of any of those ac­tiv­i­ties, to come for­ward to the TTPS and give the in­for­ma­tion to them,” Young said af­ter at­tend­ing a pass­ing out pa­rade for po­lice of­fi­cers at the St James Train­ing Acad­e­my.

He added that the po­lice would bear the re­spon­si­bil­i­ty of in­ves­ti­gat­ing if there are any al­le­ga­tions of crim­i­nal ac­tiv­i­ty.

Young al­so clar­i­fied one of the things he said in the Sen­ate on Tues­day, say­ing while he knows al­le­ga­tions of in­tim­i­da­tion of Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cers are be­ing made against Venezue­lan na­tion­als, there were al­so T&T na­tion­als who were do­ing so as well.

“We are work­ing with the TTPS to hold these per­sons,” Young said.

The is­sue arose af­ter Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cers claimed they were in­tim­i­dat­ed by rel­a­tives of a group of Venezue­lan na­tion­als who were re­fused en­try in­to the coun­try af­ter ar­riv­ing on a flight from Venezuela last week. Young ad­dressed the mat­ter in the Sen­ate on Tues­day and said po­lice would now set up sting op­er­a­tions at the Pi­ar­co In­ter­na­tion­al Air­port and oth­er ports of en­try to ar­rest any in­di­vid­u­als who may en­gage in this ac­tiv­i­ty.

Yes­ter­day, how­ev­er, Venezue­lan na­tion­als liv­ing in T&T, Gon­za­les among them, scoffed at the claims.

“That is (a) big joke. Every­body laugh­ing at the state­ment that the Min­is­ter of Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty (made) and he has to be very care­ful about,” Gon­za­les said.

Gon­za­les said con­trary to what Young was say­ing, she felt it was the oth­er way around as many Venezue­lans felt they were be­ing vic­timised and ex­ploit­ed by the Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cers, with many who were al­ready here forced to make pay­ments to stay in the coun­try.

“It is the Im­mi­gra­tion (of­fi­cer) who has a lot of the pow­er. They are the ones who are de­port­ing them and per­se­cut­ing them and ask­ing them for mon­ey from peo­ple who don’t even have mon­ey and they say they are il­le­gal. A lot of com­pli­cat­ed things, a lot of neg­a­tive things go­ing on with the Venezue­lans here, who look­ing for­ward for a safe place or some­thing like that and the im­mi­gra­tion just tak­ing ad­van­tage of that,” Gon­za­lez said.

Gon­za­lez said she be­lieved it was more like­ly that per­sons who were in­volved in bring­ing Venezue­lans and oth­er na­tion­als in­to the coun­try il­le­gal­ly were the ones threat­en­ing Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cers.

“The per­sons who bring peo­ple here and do­ing all sorts of thing to Venezue­lans, they are prob­a­bly the ones do­ing that to Im­mi­gra­tion, not the Venezue­lans. The Venezue­lans don’t have any­body here, they don’t speak the lan­guage,” said Gon­za­lez.

“The Im­mi­gra­tion seem to have more pow­er than the Prime Min­is­ter and the Min­is­ter of Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty.”

Venezue­lan refugee and hu­man rights lawyer Kar­la Hen­riquez al­so said there were nu­mer­ous in­stances of Venezue­lans and oth­er refugees be­ing asked to pay im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cers se­cu­ri­ty bonds for their con­tin­ued stay in this coun­try. In­ter­est­ing­ly, the cost of the se­cu­ri­ty bond would vary based on the na­tion­al­i­ty of the asy­lum seek­er, she said.

“When your time is up, you get a bond to ap­ply to stay and then the Im­mi­gra­tion tell you you’re gonna get back the mon­ey when you leave,” said Hen­riquez via a trans­la­tor.

“Colom­bians, Cubans and oth­er na­tion­al­i­ties pay a dif­fer­ent amount.”

She said the price was al­so in­creased based on if the asy­lum seek­ers came in us­ing le­gal pa­pers or not.

“If you have le­gal pa­pers and you ask for the bond it’s $2,100, but if you came via an il­le­gal act it’s more mon­ey that you have to pay,” Hen­riquez said.

Guardian Me­dia re­ceived pho­tographs of the bonds, stamped by Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cials, in­di­cat­ing the var­i­ous forms of pay­ment. How­ev­er, Hen­riquez said these pay­ments should not be le­gal based on treaties Trinidad and To­ba­go had signed with the Unit­ed Na­tions.

In Jan­u­ary, sev­er­al refugees protest­ing out­side the Par­lia­ment al­so claimed Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cers were ask­ing them for mon­ey in or­der for them to see their fam­i­lies at the Im­mi­gra­tion De­ten­tion Cen­tre. When Guardian Me­dia asked about that prac­tice then, Min­istry of Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty of­fi­cials de­nied there was any such prac­tice.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on April 02, 2019, 12:27:20 AM
More Venezuelan children coming to Authority.
By Julien Neaves (Newsday).


CHILDREN’S Authority director/CEO Safiya Noel says the authority has noted an increase in requests from the Immigration Division to care for children of Venezuelans detained for illegal entry.

Asked to comment on a news article about a group of Venezuelans recently held in Cedros, Noel said yesterday if people are detained for illegal entry and they have children, many times, Immigration Division would contact the authority for help with caring for the children until the adults are released.

“So we make ourselves available for those children who come in and cannot remain with their parents. And when it is the parents are leaving we just release the children back into their care. So yes, we have seen an increase in requests from the Immigration unit and we do our best to facilitate.”

Noel said the number of these children the authority is required to house is very small compared to the wider population of children in T&T. “We need more space in the system to house children but what we really need is for children to remain with families.

“That is what we really need. We don’t need children emptying out into other spaces. That is not what we need really. Which is why we continue to appeal to parents.” Noel was also asked how cases of abuse against Venezuelan children were treated by the authority.

“Children who are coming from Venezuela or any other part of the world, they are afforded their rights in terms of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child. But they are afforded their rights within the confines of the local law.”

She said if a child who is abused is a non-national, the authority investigates as it would any other child, get to the root of the problem and provide interventions for the safety of that child. “So it is no different whether it is a non-national or a citizen of T&T. We will intervene.” In the House, two Fridays ago, Oropouche West MP Vidia Gayadeen-Gopeesingh asked if five children in a group of ten Venezuelans, had been admitted to the Child Protection Unit at the Oropouche Police Station.

National Security Minister Stuart Young replied that immigration officers took the very humane decision, after doing an assessment of these Venezuelans including the children, and decided to release them on supervision orders.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on April 03, 2019, 12:37:47 AM
‘Treat Venezuelans with humanity’
By Carol Matroo (Newsday).


PM urges T&T

IS there a refugee/immigration/migrant crisis in T&T? According to the Prime Minister, there is not. However, he said there was an increase in the number of people who come and go, from Venezuela in particular.

“Some of them would like to remain because of economic circumstances in Venezuela – economic migrants – and as a good neighbour, we allow them to remain. We do not put out a call, ‘Come hither,’ but it is not such that people come here and not meet our humanity.”

Speaking on Monday, Dr Rowley was asked about offering work permits to Venezuelans for a year, but denied that it was “an offer.”

“We are not making a call for Venezuelans to come here, but if they do come, we try to treat with the situation the best we can.

“If we make ourselves a port of call and issue a call for Venezuelans to come to T&T – we are a very small country. We have 1.3 million people on a small piece of land. Venezuela has 33 million people on a very large piece of South America.

“But by the same token, the few who have come here are what, 30,000, 40,000, we will establish that very soon, we try to ensure that they are treated as well as we can.”

Asked why T&T was not recognising that Venezuela was in a humanitarian crisis and atrocities were being committed on its people, the PM said there was a process for what was happening. He said there were some who were experiencing difficulty with the Venezuelan business model.

Rowley said the anti-Venezuela sentiment did not start with President Nicolas Maduro, but started with former president Hugo Chavez.

“We seem to forget that the Chavez regime was no more popular than Maduro in certain quarters, and when you add the difficulty to treat with the population’s needs, then you move from problem to crisis.

“But that is not a crisis that T&T can fix or can address. We are not in the position to fix Venezuela’s problems.”

He said what was being seen in Venezuela was not a regional problem between T&T and Venezuela, but an international problem.

Rowley said the government was just concerned that T&T did not get the backlash that could come from clashes among countries with interests in Venezuela.

There was very little T&T and Caricom could do, he said, to prevent the world superpowers who were now focused on Venezuela from doing what they were doing, except to stand on principle.

“We can’t prevent the US or Colombia from bringing about regime change in Venezuela. What we do know is, our borders would come under tremendous pressure from people who in that circumstance will impact on T&T. If there is a military conflict in Venezuela, you think the supply of arms and personnel will be reduced in T&T?

“No, it is likely to increase.

“If there is a deterioration in Venezuela’s conditions, does that bring about a reduction in the number of Venezuelans fleeing those conditions? “No, we expect more economic migrants in T&T.” The PM also said he did not know of any increased presence of US military in the southwest peninsula.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on April 12, 2019, 05:10:07 PM
Cops rescue 4 abducted V’zuelans
By Ken Chee Hing (Newsday).


THE Special Operations Response Team (SORT), the Anti-Kidnapping Unit (AKU) and Western Division police have rescued four Venezuelans who were reportedly kidnapped.

Police said the rescue took place around 11.50 am yesterday at a house in Union Road, Four Roads, Diego Martin.

Missing-persons reports had been filed at the St James Police Station after two of the women did not return to where they were staying after leaving earlier in the day to look for apartments to rent in St James.

Acting on intelligence, officers went to the house in Diego Martin, where they rescued four women being held hostage. They have since arrested three men for kidnapping, robbery and sexually assaulting those women.

Several police units are now involved in this investigation.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on April 12, 2019, 05:11:32 PM
CoP: ‘Deport Them’
By Ryan Hamilton-Davis (Newsday).


Gary on Venezuelans involved in crime:

COMMISSIONER of Police Gary Griffith is asking that consideration be made to deport all Venezuelans, who, through intelligence gathering, have been found to be involved in criminal activity.

He made the statement earlier at a police press briefing held at the TTPS Administration building in Port of Spain, a day after Government announced that registration for legal and illegal Venezuelan immigrants would be undertaken in June.

Griffith's statement was also made hours before two more Venezuelan men were killed, this time in a shoot-out with police in Central T&T.

Griffith said three Venezuelans had been murdered for the year, and investigations had indicated that they were linked with criminal elements. He added that several others had been arrested for various crimes. According to Griffith, six were arrested for their involvement in robberies, three were held with firearms, one was held with narcotics, two were arrested in relation to malicious woundings, one, in relation to a kidnapping and another for sexual offences.

“While we are doing the charitable thing and we are trying to help, my point is charity must begin at home. There is a clear and present danger when certain Venezuelans are entering this country and they are involved in one thing and one thing alone – criminal activity.” Griffith said.

“The reason I am saying this is, as much as they would have all the people who would like to say that Jesus was a refugee and we have to take care of everyone, the fact is that I have to take care of T&T citizens.”

Griffith explained Venezuelan refugees are coming into the country, and because they are in desperate need of work some are being lured into a life of crime by criminals, while others who have had a criminal past in Venezuela, have managed to come into the country with the intention of continuing their lives of crime.

Griffith said letting these criminal elements into the country unchecked would severely damage the work being done by police to protect the citizens of T&T and reduce crime and the fear of crime.

“This situation with Venezuelan nationals coming in here with a deliberate intention to be involved in criminal activity is unacceptable... What they are basically getting is a “get out of jail free card.”

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on April 12, 2019, 05:15:59 PM
Greenlight for Venezuelans
By Akash Samaroo (Guardian).


Cab­i­net has agreed to open a two-week reg­is­tra­tion for Venezue­lans in Trinidad and To­ba­go, to al­low then an ini­tial stay of six months in which they can al­so work in Trinidad and To­ba­go.

The de­ci­sion is for Venezue­lans who ar­rive here legal­ly or il­le­gal­ly.

The two-week amnesty will be­gin on May 31st and run un­til June 14th.

Gov­ern­ment Min­is­ter Stu­art Young told to­day's post-Cab­i­net me­dia con­fer­ence that five reg­is­tra­tion cen­tres will be set up with in­ter­preters for the reg­is­tra­tion process.

The cen­tres will be lo­cat­ed in Port-of-Spain San Fer­nan­do, Ari­ma, Ce­dros and Scar­bor­ough.

The Venezue­lans will un­der­go med­ical ex­am­i­na­tions and at the end of the six months, will have their sit­u­a­tions eval­u­at­ed be­fore an­oth­er six-month pe­ri­od be­comes avail­able to them.

The min­is­ter said they will al­so be able to ac­cess emer­gency med­ical care as well as pri­ma­ry and pub­lic care, in­clu­sive of treat­ment for heart at­tacks, strokes, di­a­bet­ic co­mas and so on.

How­ev­er, the min­is­ter says any­thing be­yond that will have to be paid for.

He said the Cab­i­net al­so agreed that there will be no guar­an­tees to a right of ed­u­ca­tion or so­cial ser­vices.

Min­is­ter Young said that the gov­ern­ment's first pri­or­i­ty for the pro­vi­sion of ed­u­ca­tion is to Trinidad and To­ba­go cit­i­zens but he notes that if there are ex­tra spaces in schools, then Venezue­lans could be ac­com­mo­dat­ed.

They will not be re­quired to pay NIS but if he says that if qual­i­fy to pay PAYE, then they will.

The reg­is­tra­tion cards will have pho­to iden­ti­fi­ca­tion and se­cu­ri­ty fea­tures.

The min­is­ter said that when the process is com­plete, na­tion­al se­cu­ri­ty will re­vert to the nor­mal ap­pli­ca­tions of im­mi­gra­tion laws.

He added that this is not a process to al­low more Venezue­lans to ar­rive here il­le­gal­ly.

He said the Cab­i­net al­so agreed to re­view the sit­u­a­tion with re­spect to oth­er per­sons in the Im­mi­gra­tion De­ten­tion Cen­tre.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on April 13, 2019, 03:34:28 AM
42 Venezuelan women fined $.28m.
By Sascha Wilson (Guardian).


Fifty-six Venezue­lan na­tion­als, in­clud­ing 42 women, were fined sums to­tal­ly $280,000 in the San Fer­nan­do Mag­is­trates Court this week af­ter they plead­ed guilty to en­ter­ing the coun­try il­le­gal­ly.

Thir­ty-two of them were fined on Thurs­day—the same day Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Min­is­ter Stu­art Young an­nounced that reg­is­tra­tion for all Venezue­lans in this coun­try will com­mence be­tween May 31 and June 14.

Young said Venezue­lans housed at the Im­mi­gra­tion De­ten­tion Cen­tre will al­so be al­lowed to reg­is­ter.

Reg­is­tered Venezue­lans would be giv­en a form of an iden­ti­fi­ca­tion card and the op­tion to work for six months to a year. The 56 Venezue­lans plead­ed guilty in the San Fer­nan­do Mag­is­trates Court. They en­tered the coun­try through an il­le­gal port of en­try this year and failed to re­port to an im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cer.

They were each fined $5,000 and al­lowed two months to pay or serve three months in jail. At least 24 of the women were ar­rest­ed at Clas­sic Sea­men and Four Play Restau­rant and Bar.

All of them were held in the South­ern Di­vi­sion with­in the last week. Twen­ty four of the women ap­peared in court on Mon­day and were fined. Nine­teen oth­ers, con­sist­ing of ten women and nine men, ap­peared on Tues­day and were re­mand­ed to Thurs­day. And on Thurs­day they along with 13 oth­ers, in­clud­ing eight women, ap­peared be­fore Mag­is­trate In­dar Ja­groo.

With the as­sis­tance of Span­ish in­ter­preter Luz Maria Tapais-de-Copi­lah, they claimed they en­tered the coun­try this month. Hun­dreds of thou­sands of Venezue­lans have been flee­ing their home­land which is in a so­cial and po­lit­i­cal cri­sis.

Ac­cord­ing to the Unit­ed Na­tion records as of May 2018 than es­ti­mat­ed 40,000 Venezue­lans were liv­ing in T&T.

(http://www.guardian.co.tt/image-3.1964572.a51b759265?size=1024)
Some of Venezuelan women who were fined for entering the country illegally escorted to the San Fernando Magistrates’ Court earlier this week.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on April 13, 2019, 03:41:13 AM
'Trinis are enslaving us' - Venezuelans, Cubans appeal for help
By Alexander Bruzual (T&T Express).


ABUSE. Sexual assault. Blackmail. Victimisation by both citizens and law enforcement.

These were just some of the horri­fying allegations made yesterday by men and women from Venezuela and Cuba who told of the problems they’ve endured since they came to Trinidad seeking asylum.

More than 30 men, women and children assembled at Grant Avenue, Mt Lambert, to speak to reporters ­yesterday.

The group came together and recalled incidents of how they have been taken advantage of, persecuted and victimised in Trinidad and Tobago, as they tried to find sanctuary away from life-threatening conditions in their home countries.

Many of them broke down in tears as they recalled what they have been through.

In the end, they pleaded with the authorities to intervene, with members indicating they have written a ­letter to Prime Minister Dr Keith ­Rowley for help.

Copies of the letter are to be delivered to the office of the Minister of National Security and the office of the Commissioner of Police as well.

Most said they had refugee status or were asylum-seekers, and ­proudly displayed documents and cards to ­illustrate their status.

Documents not enough

However, despite being in possession of these documents, they said they were still targeted, victimised, even charged and brought before the courts, as many police officers refused to acknowledge their status.

Activist Yesenia Gonzales, who has lived in Trinidad for many years, told the Express she had heard Government ministers on TV telling the public many of the foreigners held in the Immigration Detention Centre were there because they had not applied for refugee or asylum status—a claim she countered by saying many of these people were in possession of refugee cards and applications.

But in the eyes of this country, these documents were not enough.

“You make an application (at the UNHCR in Port of Spain) and are given a card, and told it has to go through a process, which can last from months to years. In the interim, they give you documentation indicating as such. But if you are walking the roads just to get groceries or anything like that, these papers are not enough. “You will have officers who will arrest you regardless, telling you the law is that your passport has to be stamped properly or you have to have direct documentation approving your stay. Applications are not enough. So then you end up before courts,” Gonzales said.

‘Making slaves of us’

Another Venezuelan national, Martha Tobar, pleaded with the Government to put things in place to treat with refugees and asylum seekers, saying the current system was only leading to persecution and ­victimisation.

“This is the only country that we can come to that gives us even a remote chance of improving our lives. If we could have gone to another country and avoid the hardships here, or the victimisation we experience, we would. But we don’t have those options. Most people give up everything they have to leave Venezuela and come here. The other option is that they kill you. So it’s either we come here, or we lose our lives. This is our reality. And most times, the documents you have, passports, identification cards, birth certificates, all these things are either destroyed or left behind due to circumstances. So we literally come here with the clothes on our backs. That is all we have.

“But then when we arrive here, there is no protection. It is not as bad as Venezuela, but it is not much of an improvement either. Because as soon as people know that you are running away, as soon as they know that you don’t have anything, they try to take advantage of you. Man or woman. It doesn’t matter. They will basically make slaves of you, or in some cases send people into prostitution.”

Tobar continued: “The situation is so bad that there are immigration officers who are blackmailing us. If they see us on the roads, they will pull us aside, tell us give them money, or they will bring the police. But where are we getting this money? If we hold to the conditions of the applications, we can’t work. If we break the conditions, we are brought before the courts ­because we have broken the laws of the land. So where is the care? Where is the understanding and compassion for your fellow human beings?”

Month of hell

Among the stories which were given yesterday was that of a young woman who endured what she said was a “month of hell” trying to reach Trinidad and Tobago.

She told the Express that on ­November 29, she arrived in this country legally.

However, she claimed immigration officials refused to allow her into the country.

“They said that I could not leave Immigration because I didn’t have anyone to go by and that no one was there to claim me. I told them that my friend was outside and they said they checked and no one was there. They didn’t allow me to call or check via Internet messages. They deported me the following day. I learned upon returning to Venezuela that this was all a lie. My friend was outside waiting the whole time. And he said he was never approached nor heard his name called or anything,” the woman recalled.

However, she was desperate to try to make some money to send back to her 15-year-old brother and father, and she admitted she returned to the country illegally on December 8.

She spent a few days with people she thought she knew and trusted, but on December 13 she said she was “set up” and kidnapped.

The woman said she and another Venezuelan friend were beaten and sexually assaulted by a group of men, and moved around from house to house.

They endured this for several days until they were rescued from their ­kidnappers by police.

The woman said what was worse was that she spent more time in police custody than the men she alleged assaulted her, as police investigators told her she was here illegally, and as a result she did not have any rights.

Eventually, she was released and applied for refugee status.

But she said the people who kidnapped her were eventually freed from custody and she has been told they are looking for her.

“This is not a situation I am wishing on anyone. I came here to work to send back things for my family, but instead I was given the worst treatment that any human being can be given. My advice to Venezuelans who are coming to this country, male or female—until the Government steps up and fixes the persecution we face here, trust no-one. People who claim they are helping you, they will sell you in a heartbeat because they know it will benefit them and they know the authorities simply do not care on what happens to us,” the woman said.

How application process works

An application is made and in response to this, a certificate is given to the person, identifying he/she as an asylum seeker.

The certificate identifies the applicant, their UNHCR (United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees) registration number, date of registration, country of birth, country of asylum, and arrival date.

Following this is a letter, which is stamped by the UNHCR, in which it is noted that the applicant is an asylum seeker whose application is being processed.

The letter states, “(name) is a person of concern to the UNHCR and should be protected from forcible return to a country where she would face persecution, pending a final decision on her refugee status. Any assistance accorded to the above named individual would be appreciated.”

Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi has been criticised for statements on legislation for refugees and asylum seekers.

Amnesty International has said this country was a signatory to the 1951 Refugee Convention and its 1967 Protocol.

Al-Rawi said that the convention has not been ratified and must be enacted in domestic law.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on April 16, 2019, 05:57:52 PM
Notorious Venezuelans infiltrate T&T gangs
By Mark Bassant (Guardian).


Deadly alliance

A mur­der­ous and no­to­ri­ous Venezue­lan gang has in­fil­trat­ed Trinidad and To­ba­go’s bor­ders and many of them are now part of the crim­i­nal land­scape that has in­ten­si­fied this coun­try’s vi­o­lence over the last few months.

The find­ings, se­nior in­tel­li­gence sources say, are con­tained in a num­ber of se­cret in­tel­li­gence re­ports that have been re­cent­ly pre­pared by var­i­ous arms of lo­cal law en­force­ment au­thor­i­ties.

Guardian Me­dia saw the re­ports which high­light­ed the wor­ry­ing trend of the pres­ence here of mem­bers of the Venezue­lan gang Evande. Law en­force­ment of­fi­cers say sev­er­al hun­dred mem­bers of Evande, which re­port­ed­ly has more than 650 mem­bers, are in this coun­try il­le­gal­ly.

The law en­force­ment re­ports say Evande mem­bers have been re­spon­si­ble for sev­er­al vi­o­lent crimes in Venezuela, in­clud­ing high pro­file kid­nap­pings and mur­ders. How­ev­er, Evande mem­bers here have now em­bed­ded them­selves with lo­cal gangs and have al­so sought jobs on con­struc­tion sites across the coun­try. The re­ports al­so point­ed to the gang’s in­volve­ment in the traf­fick­ing of nar­cotics and firearms in­to this coun­try.

What au­thor­i­ties have al­so un­rav­elled in their in­ves­ti­ga­tion is that Evande mem­bers fled Venezuela for T&T not on­ly to es­cape ri­val gangs, but al­so the Venezue­lan Guardia Na­cional who were giv­en in­struc­tions to dis­man­tle their op­er­a­tions due to their “vi­o­lent and heinous na­ture.”

One se­nior in­tel­li­gence said, “This is go­ing to have a domi­no ef­fect in Trinidad and To­ba­go. With more drug seizures some­one is go­ing to have to pay the price.”

An­oth­er high rank­ing in­tel­li­gence of­fi­cer fa­mil­iar with the re­port said the Venezue­lan gangs op­er­ate with a dif­fer­ent modus operan­di.

“These gang mem­bers move in groups and when they are go­ing to put down a hit they move with AK47s. If their tar­get is one per­son, they will open fire on that per­son even if there are oth­er peo­ple around. They will not be both­ered if in­no­cent peo­ple are killed. And that’s the dif­fer­ence with these Venezue­lan gangs,” he ex­plained.

Crim­i­nol­o­gist Dar­ius Figueira, who spoke to the T&T Guardian last Sat­ur­day, said Venezue­lan gangs have been set­ting up or­gan­ised crim­i­nal op­er­a­tions here and us­ing their com­pa­tri­ots in these ac­tiv­i­ties.

“They are pros­ti­tut­ing un­der the di­rec­tions and con­trol of Venezuela’s or­gan­ised crime, which is dis­turb­ing the bal­ance of forces on the ground in T&T’s gang­land,” Figueira said.

Figueira al­so al­lud­ed to the fact that these Venezue­lan gangs form coali­tions with lo­cal gangs. He said those Venezue­lans have al­ready af­fil­i­at­ed them­selves with lo­cal gang­land op­er­a­tors and they are not afraid to die.

Two se­nior in­tel­li­gence sources re­vealed to Guardian Me­dia that they have re­ceived cred­i­ble in­for­ma­tion that at least three Venezue­lan na­tion­als shot and killed over the last month and a half in T&T were in some way con­nect­ed to the Evande gang.

One Venezue­lan na­tion­al was found dead on Feb­ru­ary 21 but is yet to be iden­ti­fied. His body was found dumped off Morne Co­co Road, Pe­tit Val­ley, with gun­shot wounds and his hands tied be­hind his back. Sources say he was a mem­ber of the Evande gang al­so they have not been able to con­firm his giv­en name. The oth­er Venezue­lan na­tion­als who had ties to the gang were Alexan­der Ce­de­no Ro­ro­ba, who was shot and killed near the El Pecos Grill in Wood­brook re­cent­ly. The man was re­port­ed­ly an asy­lum seek­er, but po­lice sources told Guardian last week that he worked as a hit­man in Venezuela.

The third Venezue­lan with deep ties to Evande was Jose Ro­driguez, 36, who was shot and killed by a lone gun­man while dri­ving along the West­ern Main Road in Glen­coe last Thurs­day.

One of the se­nior in­tel­li­gence sources ex­plained that Ro­driguez was able to get a ship­ment of co­caine from a Colom­bian link for a busi­ness­man in this coun­try. How­ev­er, the ship­ment was in­ter­cept­ed by po­lice sev­er­al months ago and Ro­driguez told the busi­ness­man the mon­ey for the mul­ti-mil­lion dol­lar ship­ment was still owed to the Colom­bians. But the busi­ness­man, the in­tel­li­gence source ex­plained, lat­er had Ro­driguez ex­e­cut­ed to can­cel out the debt.

“But be­cause these Colom­bian drug deal­ers are so con­nect­ed to Venezue­lan gangs and they are still owed mon­ey, it is on­ly a mat­ter of time be­fore they come knock­ing.”

CoP mon­i­tors grow­ing pat­tern

Com­mis­sion­er of Po­lice Gary Grif­fith has not­ed a “grow­ing pat­tern of cer­tain el­e­ments from the South Amer­i­can main­land at­tempt­ing to set up their trade of il­le­gal ac­tiv­i­ties in this coun­try.”

In a re­lease yes­ter­day, Grif­fith warned that this emerg­ing pat­tern could com­pro­mise the coun­try’s se­cu­ri­ty.

In an in­ter­view ear­li­er, how­ev­er, Grif­fith had re­fused to com­ment on the in­tel­li­gence re­ports on the Venezue­lan gang­sters in­fil­trat­ing T&T gangs and be­com­ing in­volved in crim­i­nal ac­tiv­i­ty.

He al­so said he did not have any in­for­ma­tion to counter claims made by crim­i­nol­o­gist Dar­ius Figueira on Venezue­lan gangs now in­fil­trat­ing the coun­try.

In his re­lease last evening, he al­so stopped short of mak­ing any ref­er­ence to the T&T Guardian’s ex­clu­sive sto­ry. How­ev­er, he re­it­er­at­ed his po­si­tion on de­port­ing per­sons of in­ter­est back to their coun­tries.

He said to pre­vent a re­cur­rence of an in­ci­dent at the Freeport Po­lice Sta­tion in­volv­ing Venezue­lan women at­tack­ing of­fi­cers, of­fi­cers will now be “equipped with pep­per spray and tasers in tan­dem with the min­i­mum use of force pol­i­cy.”

In re­la­tion to that par­tic­u­lar in­ci­dent, Grif­fith said if the Venezue­lan na­tion­als are found to have over­stayed their time here they will be de­port­ed im­me­di­ate­ly.

Grif­fith al­so not­ed a num­ber of il­le­gal ac­tiv­i­ties in­volv­ing non-na­tion­als who were ei­ther per­pe­tra­tors or vic­tims of crime over the past few months.

Cit­i­zens warned to be vig­i­lant

Se­cret in­tel­li­gence re­ports com­piled by law en­force­ment agen­cies have ad­vised all arms of the pro­tec­tive ser­vices to be vig­i­lant of the ex­is­tence of mem­bers of the Venezue­lan gang Evande and their po­ten­tial threat to na­tion­al se­cu­ri­ty here in Trinidad and To­ba­go.

The re­port al­so urged cit­i­zens to be­ware of their pub­lic sur­round­ings near their gro­ceries, homes, mar­kets and oth­er pub­lic ar­eas.

In­struc­tions were al­so giv­en to cross-ref­er­ence Venezue­lan na­tion­als who en­tered Trinidad and To­ba­go il­le­gal­ly with sev­er­al law en­force­ment agen­cies, in­clud­ing the as­sis­tance of In­ter­pol.

Crime in­volv­ing non-na­tion­als Jan-April 2019:

• Four Venezue­lans mur­dered

• Two Chi­nese men, one Venezue­lan woman and one Guyanese man charged in sex-ring bust

• Nine­teen fe­male non-na­tion­al mi­nors res­cued from hu­man traf­fick­ing ring

• Nine non-na­tion­als ar­rest­ed for pos­ses­sion of nar­cotics

• Five de­tainees es­caped the Im­mi­gra­tion De­ten­tion Cen­tre

• Po­lice res­cued four Venezue­lan women from a house at Diego Mar­tin

• Fifty-six Venezue­lans ar­rest­ed and charged for il­le­gal en­try

• Six Venezue­lan women at­tack po­lice


Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on April 16, 2019, 05:59:45 PM
Four V’zuelans denied bail for assaulting police.
By Laurel Williams (Newsday).


Four Venezuelans – three women and a man – appeared before a Chaguanas magistrate yesterday charged with a total of 17 offences. including obstructing two police officers in the execution of their duties and assaulting them.

The four accused stood before senior magistrate Rajendra Rambachan in the first court. One woman and the man were each charged with assaulting PC Mohammed, throwing missiles to endanger people, resisting arrest, obstructing him and behaving in a disorderly manner.

Another woman was charged with resisting arrest, behaving in a disorderly manner, assaulting PC Mohammed and WPC Glasglow.

The last woman was charged with resisting WPC Glasglow, obstructing PC Mohammed and behaving in a disorderly manner.

They pleaded not guilty.

The charges stemmed from a fracas on Sunday at Freeport. Police on patrol at Uquire Road, Freeport stopped and searched two men, a Venezuelan and a Trinidadian. It is alleged when they tried to search the Venezuelan, the women intervened and assaulted the police.

Ag Cpl Bain and PC Mohammed of Central Division laid the charges.

Sgt Alicia Soodeen prosecuted and objected to bail, saying they were foreigners and had no fixed addresses in TT.

Attorney Nicholas Rampersadsingh represented the accused and Moonilal Ragbir translated.

The magistrate denied them bail and remanded them into police custody to reappear on May 14.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on May 01, 2019, 12:34:18 AM
We can't stop a Venezuelan influx—Padarath
By Radhica De Silva (Guardian).


Even as Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Min­is­ter Stu­art Young an­nounced yes­ter­day that se­cu­ri­ty forces were lock­ing down T&T’s bor­ders in re­sponse to Venezuela’s wors­en­ing cri­sis, Op­po­si­tion MPs said it was a lit­tle too late to do this.

In an in­ter­view with the T&T Guardian, Princes Town MP Bar­ry Padarath said noth­ing will stop des­per­ate peo­ple from flee­ing their home­land if civ­il war breaks out in neigh­bour­ing Venezuela.

Padarath said with fac­tions of Venezuela’s mil­i­tary sup­port­ing Op­po­si­tion leader Juan Guai­do, T&T could be­come caught in the fall­out as flee­ing Venezue­lans could flock to the is­land, cre­at­ing a neg­a­tive im­pact on T&T’s na­tion­al se­cu­ri­ty among oth­er is­sues.

“Could our re­sources han­dle the in­flux of Venezue­lans and would we be able to man­age the sit­u­a­tion?” he asked in re­la­tion to Gov­ern­ment’s de­ci­sion to reg­is­ter Venezue­lans and al­low them to work for up to a year legal­ly.

He said ed­u­ca­tion and the health sec­tor will al­so be strained un­der this sce­nario, adding that while it was im­por­tant to deal with the sit­u­a­tion in a hu­man­i­tar­i­an way, the Gov­ern­ment should al­so take pre­cau­tions to en­sure there is no neg­a­tive im­pact on T&Ts se­cu­ri­ty.

MP for Ma­yaro/Rio Claro Rush­ton Paray said since the at­tempt was made by Guai­do to over­throw the Nico­las Maduro regime there have been no re­ports of a high in­flux of Venezue­lans com­ing to T&T from the east coast. How­ev­er, he said he was sure they were com­ing in from oth­er points along the coast.

He not­ed that the Ma­yaro re­gion had a large num­ber of hard work­ing Venezue­lans who were ea­ger­ly wait­ing for reg­is­tra­tion. He warned, how­ev­er, that un­der the ad-hoc reg­is­tra­tion process no plan was put in place for a Venezue­lan woman who bears chil­dren in T&T dur­ing the one-year pe­ri­od.

“Will the chil­dren get cit­i­zen­ship? Will the par­ents be sent back? Why did the Gov­ern­ment al­low a 50-day win­dow be­fore reg­is­tra­tion be­gins?” Paray asked.

He al­so pre­dict­ed a high­er in­flux of Venezue­lans com­ing to T&T over the next few days. He said while NGOs in Ma­yaro were as­sist­ing Venezue­lans with ac­com­mo­da­tion and school­ing, he was un­cer­tain whether the coun­try will be able to ac­com­mo­date any great num­ber of them seek­ing refugee sta­tus in T&T.

In a state­ment yes­ter­day, Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Min­is­ter Stu­art Young said T&T was main­tain­ing its prin­ci­pled po­si­tion of non-in­ter­fer­ence and non-in­ter­ven­tion in the Venezue­lan cri­sis. How­ev­er, he said Gov­ern­ment hoped that the Venezue­lan peo­ple could re­solve their is­sues peace­ful­ly.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on May 02, 2019, 12:29:12 AM
Venezuelans continue to enter South coast.
By Radhica De Silva (Guardian).


Boat­loads of Venezue­lans are still con­tin­u­ing to se­cret­ly en­ter Trinidad through Ica­cos even though the Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Min­is­ter Stu­art Young an­nounced that all bor­ders are now in lock­down.

Guardian Me­dia vis­it­ed the coastal vil­lages of Coro­man­del, Fullar­ton, Ica­cos and Bonasse yes­ter­day to see whether there was any phys­i­cal proof of ad­di­tion­al se­cu­ri­ty. No ad­di­tion­al po­lice, sol­diers or coast guard were seen.

How­ev­er, res­i­dents said the num­ber of il­le­gal Venezue­lans had in­creased since vi­o­lent street protests erupt­ed in Venezuela fol­low­ing the at­tempt by Op­po­si­tion leader Juan Guai­do to oust Pres­i­dent Nicholas Maduro.

Short­ly be­fore the T&T Guardian team ar­rived at Ica­cos Beach at noon, res­i­dents said a boat with five Venezue­lans pulled up and the oc­cu­pants ran out and en­tered a forest­ed area to hide.

A source, who re­quest­ed anonymi­ty, said more than 50 Venezue­lans were seen en­ter­ing Ica­cos dur­ing Mon­day night and about a dozen ven­tured in dur­ing the day.

“On Tues­day at 5 am, three max­is were at the beach pick­ing up the women and chil­dren, many of whom could be no more than 20-years old.

“This is a reg­u­lar thing. We can­not talk about it but every­one sees and knows what is go­ing on,” the source said.

Some fish­er­men, who were try­ing to hoist a boat off the sand and who the source claimed had or­ches­trat­ed the il­le­gal trip, de­nied see­ing any Venezue­lans on the beach. They did not want pho­tos tak­en.

Sev­er­al fish­er­men said since the min­is­ter an­nounced a lock­down there has been no ad­di­tion­al se­cu­ri­ty.

Adri­an Massey, who was kid­napped by Venezue­lans two years ago while fish­ing in lo­cal wa­ters, said he was con­cerned about de­vel­op­ments in Venezuela.

“It is cause for con­cern be­cause there is war in Venezuela . It will mean a lot of Venezue­lans com­ing here,” he said.

He said while lo­cals could not fish in ter­ri­to­r­i­al wa­ters, the Venezue­lans were com­ing in with lit­tle or no re­stric­tions.

While he ex­pressed sym­pa­thy for the plight of the Venezue­lans, Massey said one could not be cer­tain whether the for­eign­ers were crim­i­nals.

Pres­i­dent of Ica­cos Unit­ed Fish­er­men As­so­ci­a­tion Gary Ed­wards said, “There is no lock­down here. Who cares what is hap­pen­ing in Ica­cos. Do you think peo­ple don’t know what is hap­pen­ing? You know and that is why you are here.”

He added that Venezue­lans were liv­ing in every part of the penin­su­la.

At Bonasse Vil­lage, Ce­dros tour guide Ed­ward Mar­celle said there was no ev­i­dence of a bor­der lock­down be­cause of the Coast Guard in­ter­cep­tor was not sta­tioned off the coast.

How­ev­er, at Bowen and Carlise Trace, Coro­man­del, army of­fi­cers were spot­ted in­side the for­est trails. There were al­so ad­di­tion­al sol­diers seen by res­i­dents in the Gal­fa area.

On Mon­day, Young said the bor­ders will be locked down to stop il­le­gal en­try. He said the gov­ern­ment is tak­ing a non-in­ter­fer­ence and non-in­ter­ven­tion stance to the Venezue­lan cri­sis.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on May 22, 2019, 12:22:39 AM
22 Venezuelans fined $3,000 each for illegal entry
By Sascha Wilson (Guardian).


A teacher, a stu­dent and a trainee po­lice­man were among 22 Venezue­lans who fled their cri­sis-strick­en home­land to Trinidad in search of work, food and a bet­ter life.

On Mon­day, they all ap­peared in the San Fer­nan­do Mag­is­trates Court charged with il­le­gal­ly en­ter­ing the coun­try. The 20 men and two women plead­ed guilty.

Hav­ing lost their jobs, un­able to find work or food and pen­ni­less, they came to Trinidad leav­ing be­hind their chil­dren and spous­es in Venezuela.

Some of them said they were work­ing on an agri­cul­tur­al farm in Erin. They ap­peared be­fore First Court Se­nior Mag­is­trate Jo-Anne Con­nor who read the charge that on an un­known date they en­tered the coun­try in a place not des­ig­nat­ed as a port of en­try and failed to re­port to an im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cer.

They ar­rived in the coun­ty about two weeks ago. Their ages ranged from 18 to 45 years old and they were charged by Cpl Richard­son of the Im­mi­gra­tion Di­vi­sion.

The 18-year-old, the po­lice trainee, and one of the women, age 45, were rep­ri­mand­ed and dis­charged. The oth­ers were each fined $3,000. They were giv­en three months to pay the mon­ey or serve six months in jail.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on May 23, 2019, 12:42:52 AM
$123,000 in fines imposed against migrants.
T&T Guardian Reports.


In two days, a to­tal of 47 Venezue­lans ap­peared in the San Fer­nan­do Mag­is­trates Court for il­le­gal­ly en­ter­ing the coun­try. The ma­jor­i­ty have been slapped with fines to­tal­ly $123,000.

Twen­ty-two ap­peared on Mon­day, 19 were fined a to­tal of $57,000 and three were dis­charged. On Wednes­day, 25 Venezue­lans, in­clud­ing six women, plead­ed guilty be­fore First Court Se­nior Mag­is­trate Jo-Anne Con­nor.

They ad­mit­ted to en­ter­ing the coun­try at a port of en­try which is not des­ig­nat­ed port and fail­ing to re­port to an im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cer.

The ma­jor­i­ty of them claimed they lost their jobs in oc­cu­pa­tions such as bak­ers, babysit­ters, con­struc­tion work­ers and me­chan­ics and came to here look­ing for work. They sneaked in­to the coun­try be­tween Feb­ru­ary and May and had been stay­ing in var­i­ous lo­ca­tions, in­clud­ing Union Hall, San Fer­nan­do, Aripero, Rousil­lac, Moru­ga, Williamsville, Mara­bel­la and Palmiste.

Some were able to find jobs here do­ing main­ly do­mes­tic and con­struc­tion work. Three women, a 23-year-old woman work­ing as a babysit­ter, a 21-year-old work­ing as a maid and a 25-year-old who holds an ad­min­is­tra­tive as­sis­tant de­gree and was earn­ing a liv­ing by clean­ing hous­es and cook­ing here, were all rep­ri­mand­ed and dis­charged. The oth­er 22 were giv­en three months to pay the fines or serve six months in jail.

In any event, they will be de­tained at the Im­mi­gra­tion De­ten­tion Cen­tre to await de­por­ta­tion. Christie Ramkissoon was the Span­ish trans­la­tor while WPC Limo of the Im­mi­gra­tion Di­vi­sion laid the charges.

Close to 100 Venezuelans held in Santa Flora

Po­lice have de­tained scores of Venezue­lan na­tion­als in San­ta Flo­ra in South Trinidad.

Many of those de­tained were car­ry­ing back­packs, sug­gest­ing that they had re­cent­ly come ashore.

We're told that close to 100 were de­tained.

This is a de­vel­op­ing re­port and we will have more lat­er.

Released! Venezuelans allowed until end of July

The 93 Venezue­lan na­tion­als who have been de­tained by po­lice in Pa­lo Seco, are be­ing re­leased.

The men, women and chil­dren were tak­en to Siparia where they were processed by Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cials.

They were giv­en doc­u­ments al­low­ing them to stay in the coun­try un­til the end of Ju­ly.

Some of the of­fi­cers even took the Venezue­lan na­tion­als to get dou­bles in Siparia.

They were al­so giv­en soft drinks and sand­wich­es.

Most of them said they have not eat­en since they came ear­ly this morn­ing.

They say they are not sure where they will stay but are ask­ing per­sons in the area to bor­row phones to make phone calls.

The Venezue­lans were held at a two-storey house in a forest­ed area in Pa­lo Seco.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: maxg on May 23, 2019, 11:39:41 AM
This is the saddest problem going forward. As if we don't have enough social issues. Not sure what can be done.   ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: soccerman on May 23, 2019, 12:39:25 PM
We may have to explore alternatives to be proactive to intercept these refugees before they get on land. At the very least we can document who's entering or trying to enter through undesignated ports. Coast guards with the help of other military units I guess? I'm not even sure what measures we currently have in place.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on May 24, 2019, 03:01:05 PM
Young urges Venezuelans to register
By Sampson Nanton (Guardian).


Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Min­is­ter Stu­art Young is send­ing a mes­sage to Venezue­lan na­tion­als in Trinidad and To­ba­go, "do not to lis­ten" to those telling them to stay away from the reg­is­tra­tion process.

At a news con­fer­ence in Port-of-Spain on Fri­day, Min­is­ter Young said that it is in their own in­ter­est, be­cause when the reg­is­tra­tion process is done, the state will re­vert to en­forc­ing the law of de­port­ing per­sons who are here il­le­gal­ly.

He has made a fresh call for all Venezue­lans, whether here legal­ly or not, to come for­ward and reg­is­ter dur­ing the time-pe­ri­od May 31 to June 14.

"I want to tell you of the con­se­quence of not reg­is­ter­ing. Come June 15, per­sons who have not tak­en part in the reg­is­tra­tion process, we re­vert back to the en­force­ment of the law as it cur­rent­ly stands. Do not lis­ten to any­one try­ing to con­vince you not to par­tic­i­pate in the ex­er­cise," he said.

The Min­istry of Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty, which is spear­head­ing the process, has re­duced the num­ber of reg­is­tra­tion cen­tres from five to three.

They will be at the Queen's Park Oval in Port-of-Spain, the Achiev­ers Ban­quet Hall in San Fer­nan­do and the Car­o­line Build­ing on Wil­son Street, Scar­bor­ough, To­ba­go.

He said that there has been an over-sub­scrip­tion of per­sons re­spond­ing to the call for in­ter­preters, trans­la­tors and as­sis­tants for the process.

The process will in­volve an on­line seg­ment, in which per­sons will be asked to fill out forms, fol­low­ing which they will ac­quire iden­ti­fi­ca­tion num­bers.

The forms will be both in Eng­lish and Span­ish.

At each reg­is­tra­tion point, there will be com­put­er ter­mi­nals for those wish­ing to fill out their forms and there will be as­sis­tants there to help.

He said there will on­ly be a cer­tain num­ber of per­sons reg­is­tered dai­ly but that no one will be turned away.

The reg­is­tra­tion form will al­so al­low for the reg­is­tra­tion of chil­dren.

Per­sons will then be tak­en to a desk for ver­i­fi­ca­tion, fin­ger­print­ing and pho­tograph­ing.

"Every­one, in­clud­ing chil­dren, will be reg­is­tered that way," Young said.

He added that the rep­re­sen­ta­tives of the Min­is­ter of Health will al­so be avail­able and that quick health scans will be con­duct­ed to en­sure there are no is­sues re­gard­ing the health of those be­ing reg­is­tered.

In the end, every­one will be giv­en a re­ceipt which will en­ti­tle them to a reg­is­tra­tion card.

Reg­is­tra­tion cards will on­ly be giv­en to Venezue­lans above the age of 16, and will al­low them the op­por­tu­ni­ty to stay and work in Trinidad and To­ba­go for a year.

Young said the cards will have spe­cial se­cu­ri­ty fea­tures and can al­so be used by Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cials for ver­i­fi­ca­tions.

He has re­it­er­at­ed that the cards will not pre­vent those in­volved in il­le­gal ac­tiv­i­ties, from be­ing de­port­ed, adding that na­tion­al se­cu­ri­ty op­er­a­tives have been get­ting in­for­ma­tion from In­ter­pol with re­gards to those in­volved in crim­i­nal ac­tiv­i­ty.

"So we have a red flag list of any­one who comes up as a crim­i­nal," he said.

He said he has signed around 10 de­por­ta­tion or­ders in the last few weeks.

Min­is­ter Young in­sists that the gov­ern­ment's pol­i­cy on Venezue­lans has not changed and that the de­ci­sion by Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cials to grant su­per­vi­sion or­ders to 93 Venezue­lans held in Pa­lo Seco this week, is not a new thing.

Ac­cord­ing to the min­is­ter, Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cials must take in­to con­sid­er­a­tion the space at the Im­mi­gra­tion De­ten­tion Cen­tre and al­so the care need­ed for women and chil­dren.

He said in that case, it would be more hu­mane to re­lease them on su­per­vi­sion or­ders, with re­quire­ments for them to ap­pear every two weeks so that their where­abouts can be tracked.

"There is no soft­en­ing of our pol­i­cy," he said.

On the oth­er end, he said that the au­thor­i­ties have dis­cussed with Venezuela's 'Guardia Na­tion­al', ef­forts to al­so stop shiploads of Venezue­lans from trav­el­ling from Venezuela to Trinidad and To­ba­go.

The cost of the reg­is­tra­tion process is $5 mil­lion but the min­is­ter said the fig­ure is flu­id as they may come across con­tin­gen­cies that they have not catered for be­fore.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on May 24, 2019, 03:03:41 PM
Venezuelans in court for illegal entry
By Sascha Wilson (Guardian).


Even as aid is be­ing sought for more 100 Venezue­lans mi­grants found hid­ing in the Pa­lo Seco area, 46 oth­ers ap­peared in court this morn­ing charged with en­ter­ing the coun­try il­le­gal­ly.

The ma­jor­i­ty of them were con­vict­ed and or­dered to pay fines of $2000 and $3000. They were giv­en three months to pay the fines or serve six and four months in jail. Most were men and they came in­to the coun­try at dif­fer­ent dates be­tween last Au­gust and this month.

Af­ter ap­pear­ing be­fore San Fer­nan­do Se­nior Mag­is­trate Jo-Anne Con­nor the mi­grants were tak­en away in prison vans.

On Thurs­day, more than 100 Venezue­lan men, women and chil­dren were held by po­lice in the Pa­lo Seco area. They ar­rived in the coun­try via boat and were hid­ing in the forests. They were lat­er giv­en shel­ter at a sports com­plex in Siparia and Good Samar­i­tans pro­vid­ed them with food and cloth­ing. Med­ical care was al­so pro­vid­ed.

Those mi­grants have been giv­en per­mis­sion to stay here un­til the end of Ju­ly.

More Venezuelans arrive via Icacos
By Radica De Silva (Guardian).


While po­lice locked down the coastal points at Beach Camp, Pa­lo Seco and Erin on Wednes­day night, three more boat­loads of Venezue­lans ar­rived at Ica­cos Beach and Colum­bus Bay.

A source who re­quest­ed anonymi­ty said the boats came in be­tween 11 pm on Wednes­day to 1:30 am on Thurs­day. Short­ly af­ter mid­night, a heavy con­tin­gent of po­lice came in, search­ing for the Venezue­lans. It is be­lieved they fled in­to the forests near Con­stance es­tate, La Vege Es­tate, St Quintin Es­tate at near Colum­bus Bay. A few of them were lat­er ar­rest­ed but the ma­jor­i­ty are still in hid­ing.

"Things were hot here last night. Ear­li­er on they picked up 12 of them at Fullar­ton Beach. The peo­ple who nor­mal­ly come for them did not show up last night be­cause there was too much po­lice around," the source added.

Usu­al­ly, a maxi taxi is hired and the for­eign­ers are car­ried to var­i­ous des­ti­na­tions.

A pho­to of Venezue­lans be­ing held for ques­tion­ing at the Ce­dros Se­cu­ri­ty Com­plex cir­cu­lat­ed on so­cial me­dia on Thurs­day morn­ing.

In an in­ter­view with Guardian Me­dia, coun­cil­lor for the area, Shankar Teelucks­ingh ques­tioned whether the 360-de­gree radar was func­tion­al.

"I want to know whether the radar is work­ing? How is it that the Venezue­lans are still ar­riv­ing at the south­ern coasts? Where is the Coast Guard? Is it that they are on­ly pa­trolling to stop the Venezue­lans fer­ries?" Teelucks­ingh asked. He al­so ques­tioned why Im­mi­gra­tion grant­ed an Or­der of Su­per­vi­sion to 105 Venezue­lans who were picked up on Wednes­day at Aguillera Trace, Beach Camp. One of the or­ders of su­per­vi­sion pa­pers hand­ed to Er­i­ca Yohan Men­doza Miche­le­na ad­vised that he has to re­port to the se­nior im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cer at Knox Street, San Fer­nan­do.

Teelucks­ingh said the Venezue­lans should have re­ceived clear­ance to stay for one week in Trinidad to get sup­plies and then the fer­ries should have been hired to de­port them back to Venezuela. He called on the Min­istry to set up refugee camps and to li­aise with agen­cies like the UNCHR and Red Cross to help the Venezue­lans.

Many of those in­ter­viewed at Siparia af­ter their re­lease were left with nowhere to go. They even­tu­al­ly spent the night at the Ir­win Park pavil­ion af­ter Guardian Me­dia im­plored chair­man of the Siparia Regi­ion­al­Cor­po­ra­tion Dr Glenn Ra­mad­hars­ingh to find suit­able ac­com­mo­da­tion for them.

Sev­er­al busi­ness own­ers and church groups have of­fered to pro­vide lunch for the home­less Venezue­lans. Once reg­is­tra­tion be­gins, Venezue­lans who qual­i­fy will be al­lowed to live and work in Trinidad for a year.

Guardian Me­dia will bring you more on this as this sit­u­a­tion de­vel­ops.

Women, children hideout in Icacos forest

Des­per­ate to es­cape be­ing caught by the po­lice, more than 50 Venezue­lan women and their chil­dren are hid­ing in the forests of Ica­cos, with man­goes and co­conuts for a meal.

By dusk, when the mos­qui­toes, gnats and sand flies de­scend, the hun­gry women stum­ble out of the forests in search of food, hold­ing their chil­dren pro­tec­tive­ly around them.

Guardian Me­dia went in search of the bush fam­i­lies on Thurs­day and saw ev­i­dence of their ex­is­tence. Fresh tracks were seen in the for­est lead­ing to the sea and a knap­sack was spot­ted on the road. A team of of­fi­cers from the Cus­toms and Ex­cise Di­vi­sion were seen search­ing in a road lead­ing to the beach near Gal­far.

It is an area ac­ces­si­ble on­ly through the bumpy Gran Chemin vil­lage in Ica­cos where an old colo­nial road once broke off leav­ing the land ex­posed to the sea.

Vil­lager Rox­anne Williams who was seen shred­ding co­conut branch­es to make co­coyea brooms con­firmed that she had seen the home­less for­est chil­dren.

“It is so sad see­ing them. I can­not imag­ine how they are liv­ing in there where there are snakes and all kinds of an­i­mals,” she said.

“We es­ti­mate that about 300 of them came up here over the past few days. On Wednes­day, I saw one woman who had a ba­by not old­er than a year. The oth­er child was about four. They were look­ing for food. They run across the road when they saw me,” Williams said.

She said when­ev­er the Venezue­lans see the po­lice, Cus­toms or Im­mi­gra­tion, they would run in the bush­es and hide.

An­oth­er vil­lager Can­dy Ed­wards said he es­ti­mat­ed there were still about 50 Venezue­lans hid­ing in the bush­es and aban­doned co­conut es­tates in Ica­cos.

“Some of those who came be­fore had a con­tact to take them to var­i­ous places to work but many who are com­ing now have no mon­ey, no pos­ses­sions and nowhere to go,” Ed­wards said.

Hav­ing been im­pris­oned in Venezuela for 52 days af­ter be­ing ar­rest­ed by the Guardia Na­cional last year, Ed­wards said the last thing he want­ed was to be in Venezuela.

“It is no won­der that peo­ple run­ning from there. In the vil­lagers like Ped­er­nales, Tu­cu­pi­ta and Capri, peo­ple are suf­fer­ing. They have no food, no wa­ter and no med­i­cine.”

While Ed­wards ex­pressed con­cerns that some of the Venezue­lans were crim­i­nals he said some­thing has does be done to pro­tect the chil­dren.

“It’s not right. My moth­er has been feed­ing the chil­dren from the forests but she can­not take them in.”

Con­tact­ed for com­ment, chair­man of the Chil­dren’s Au­thor­i­ty Han­iff Ben­jamin said the Au­thor­i­ty has been work­ing with the Min­istry of Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty to as­sist all chil­dren in T&T in­clud­ing those who were for­eign­ers.

“We have a man­date to pro­tect all the chil­dren of T&T. We are a sig­na­to­ry to the Unit­ed Na­tions Rights of Child and we have a du­ty to pro­vide care and at­ten­tion to chil­dren as well as to pro­tect all chil­dren. The mech­a­nisms of the Chil­dren’s Au­thor­i­ty will kick in­to place to pro­vide help to the chil­dren.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on May 24, 2019, 03:05:49 PM
PM: Volume of Venezuelans will become a burden.
By Sampson Nanton (Guardian).


Prime Min­is­ter Dr Kei­th Row­ley says that Trinidad and To­ba­go can­not be the so­lu­tion for mil­lions of Venezue­lans who are flee­ing the coun­try and that there will come a time when the vol­ume of Venezue­lans com­ing here will be­come a bur­den.

He made the re­mark at to­day's post-Cab­i­net me­dia con­fer­ence.

The prime min­is­ter said the first pri­or­i­ty of the gov­ern­ment is the wel­fare of the peo­ple of Trinidad and To­ba­go.

He told the me­dia con­fer­ence that while Trinidad and To­ba­go is at­tempt­ing to keep its doors open, it will not be able to cope with a large mi­gra­tion of Venezue­lans.

"In­ter­na­tion­al agen­cies, many of them with dif­fer­ent agen­das to our in­ter­est in Trinidad and To­ba­go, will not en­cour­age us in­to con­vert­ing Trinidad and To­ba­go, this lit­tle is­land na­tion in the mouth of the Orinoco, in­to any refugee camp for the larg­er Venezue­lan pub­lic," he said.

Dr Row­ley added: "To pro­tect the in­ter­est of the peo­ple of Trinidad and To­ba­go we will have to lim­it our ex­po­sure to the fall­out in Venezuela."

He said one way of do­ing so is to con­tin­ue the 90-day lim­it al­lowed for Venezue­lans com­ing in­to the coun­try.

How­ev­er, he is warn­ing that Trinidad and To­ba­go might have to en­sure that the mi­gra­tion of Venezue­lans to this coun­try, stops.

"There comes a time when the vol­ume and the pres­ence of these eco­nom­ic mi­grants in Trinidad and To­ba­go will threat­en the qual­i­ty of life of the peo­ple of Trinidad and To­ba­go and it falls to us to pro­tect our­selves from that," he said.

He said the gov­ern­ment is not naive to the fact that crim­i­nal el­e­ments are al­so at­tempt­ing to ex­ploit the gen­eros­i­ty of this coun­try in al­low­ing Venezue­lans in.

Dr Row­ley said he will chair a meet­ing of the Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Coun­cil on Fri­day to ad­dress ma­jor con­cerns re­lat­ed to that.

He said the reg­is­tra­tion process which be­gins on May 31, will help the au­thor­i­ties to know how many are here, where they are and who they are.

"If you en­gage in crim­i­nal con­duct of any kind, we will de­port you be­cause you are our guests," he said.

Mean­while, Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Min­is­ter Stu­art Young says that the gov­ern­ment did not play a role in the de­ci­sion to grant su­per­vi­sion or­ders to Venezue­lan na­tion­als found in Pa­lo Seco on Wednes­day.

Close to 100 Venezue­lans were found in a house in a forest­ed area and were tak­en to Siparia for pro­cess­ing.

Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cers al­lowed the Venezue­lans to go free on su­per­vi­sion or­ders, un­til the end of Ju­ly.

Min­is­ter Young said that he could not say on what grounds the Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cials act­ed.

"I can't say what was the de­ci­sion tak­en by the Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cers," Young said, adding, "I can tell you that the gov­ern­ment did not par­tic­i­pate in that de­ci­sion."

Min­is­ter Young said the might have had to do with the space avail­able for hold­ing Venezue­lan mi­grants.

"You have to un­der­stand there are lim­it­ed fa­cil­i­ties for hold­ing per­sons and that is some­thing we are go­ing to be work­ing on, and I think they just took a de­ci­sion on the ground there that if they re­lease them on su­per­vi­sion or­ders - and I was told that peo­ple are hold­ing to the terms of the su­per­vi­sion or­ders, so they are ac­tu­al­ly turn­ing up when they are sup­posed and re­port­ing in etc - that was a de­ci­sion tak­en by the Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cer who was in charge yes­ter­day," he said.

He said he did not have in­for­ma­tion on where they were to­day.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on May 25, 2019, 12:22:22 AM
No one will be turned away —Young.
By Renuka Singh (Guardian).


Any Venezue­lan na­tion­al who ar­rives in this coun­try be­fore the end of the two-week reg­is­tra­tion process can ap­ply to live and work here for up to a year.

This con­fir­ma­tion came from Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Min­is­ter Stu­art Young as he gave de­tails for the first time on how the reg­is­tra­tion process will un­fold be­tween May 31 and June 15.

Young gave de­tails of the process on Fri­day at the Min­istry of Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty head of­fice on Aber­crom­by Street, Port-of-Spain fol­low­ing a meet­ing of the Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Coun­cil, which was chaired by the Prime Min­is­ter.

In the days be­fore the start of reg­is­tra­tion, Young ad­mit­ted, more Venezue­lan na­tion­als are like­ly to come ashore il­le­gal­ly.

Even as he spoke, po­lice and im­mi­gra­tion au­thor­i­ties were search­ing for a group that ar­rived in Ce­dros yes­ter­day. The Unit­ed Na­tions Com­mis­sion­er for Hu­man Rights es­ti­mat­ed in April, there are be­tween 40,000 and 60,000 Venezue­lans in T&T. That fig­ure has been grow­ing dai­ly as mi­grants come ashore in the dead of night at se­clud­ed in­lets in sev­er­al ar­eas in the coun­try — more­so in the south­west­ern penin­su­la which lies just sev­en miles away from the South Amer­i­can na­tion.

Prime Min­is­ter Dr Kei­th Row­ley said on Thurs­day this coun­try can­not be the so­lu­tion to mil­lions of Venezue­lans flee­ing their coun­try due to eco­nom­ic hard­ship nor can this coun­try be con­vert­ed in­to a refugee camp. Venezuela has an es­ti­mat­ed pop­u­la­tion of 33 mil­lion, 25 times Trinidad and To­ba­go's pop­u­la­tion of 1.3 mil­lion.

He said the Gov­ern­ment has a re­spon­si­bil­i­ty to pro­tect the in­ter­est of cit­i­zens first.

"The pol­i­cy is now where we are faced with an in­flux threat­en­ing to be over­whelm­ing for us," he ad­mit­ted.

But Young's ad­mis­sion that "no one will be turned away", seemed to con­tra­dict the PM's state­ment.

Young said five reg­is­tra­tion cen­tres had been ini­tial­ly pro­posed but not­ed the Gov­ern­ment would on­ly be able to man­age three: one in Port-of-Spain at the Queen's Park Oval, a sec­ond at the Achiev­ers Ban­quet Hall on Dun­can Street, San Fer­nan­do and a third in at the Car­o­line build­ing, Wil­son Road in Scar­bor­ough.

He is count­ing on the net­work with­in the Venezue­lan com­mu­ni­ty in T&T to help get mi­grants to the reg­is­tra­tion cen­tres, and he en­cour­aged the use of a pre-reg­is­tra­tion process on­line.

"From a lo­gis­tics point of view, from a se­cu­ri­ty point of view and just be­ing able to man­age the reg­is­tra­tion cen­tres, we could not go to with more than three," Young said.

Young said the small­er num­ber of reg­is­tra­tion points would not pose an ad­di­tion­al fi­nan­cial bur­den on the peo­ple com­ing in­to the coun­try.

"At the end of the day, my hon­est be­lief and in lis­ten­ing to im­mi­gra­tion, and they are the ones who are deal­ing with per­sons on the ground for months now, peo­ple will make their way to where they need to be for reg­is­tra­tions," he said.

The min­is­ter em­pha­sised that the reg­is­tra­tion process is manda­to­ry for all Venezue­lan na­tion­als who fled their home­land.

"The con­se­quence of not reg­is­ter­ing, so come June 15, what hap­pens to per­sons who have not tak­en part in this reg­is­tra­tion process, we will re­vert back to the law and the en­force­ment of the law as it cur­rent­ly stands, " he said.

"Even if per­sons have gone through the reg­is­tra­tion process and then en­gage in crim­i­nal ac­tiv­i­ty, as the Min­is­ter of Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty, I will de­port you," he said.

Each in­di­vid­ual over the age of 16 would be grant­ed a reg­is­tra­tion card and a unique num­ber, al­low­ing them to work legal­ly in the coun­try and emer­gency ac­cess to health care.

The reg­is­tra­tion process in­cludes a bio­met­ric por­tion that will use the reg­is­trant's fin­ger­prints and pho­tographs.

Off­i­cals from the Min­istry of Health would al­so be present dur­ing that two-week process to en­sure the health of the per­son reg­is­ter­ing.

At the end of the reg­is­tra­tion process, each per­son would be giv­en a re­ceipt for a reg­is­tra­tion card.

The card al­lows the hold­er to work in the coun­try for one year. They must check in at the six-month mark for a com­par­i­son of records.

He said in the past few weeks, he signed some 10 de­por­ta­tion pa­pers and would sign many more if Venezue­lans com­mit any crimes in the coun­try.

While he said that there would be no soft­en­ing of the im­mi­gra­tion pol­i­cy at the coun­try's en­try points, he ad­mit­ted that the de­por­ta­tion pol­i­cy would be ramped up on­ly "af­ter" the reg­is­tra­tion process.

"Af­ter, def­i­nite­ly. The de­por­ta­tion comes on the back end of con­vic­tion. Un­der the im­mi­gra­tion law, how­ev­er, there are oth­er method­olo­gies avail­able," he said.

Ques­tions have been raised about the process es­pe­cial­ly as just un­der 100 Venezue­lan na­tion­als en­tered the coun­try last week il­le­gal­ly and were de­tained by po­lice. The group was then grant­ed im­mu­ni­ty un­til Ju­ly.

This group, too, would be al­lowed to reg­is­ter.

Young said the reg­is­tra­tion pro­gramme cost the Gov­ern­ment $5 mil­lion so far.

"It is a flu­id process," he said, adding that the full cost would on­ly be known af­ter the pro­gramme is com­plet­ed.

Young al­so said that the East­ern De­ten­tion Cor­rec­tion­al and Re­ha­bil­i­ta­tion Cen­tre in San­ta Rosa will be out­fit­ted and used as an im­mi­gra­tion de­ten­tion cen­tre.

While some of the new ar­rivals have been de­tained and lat­er re­leased by im­mi­gra­tion au­thor­i­ties and or­dered to re­port with­in 90 days, oth­er have been tak­en to court, charged as much as $3,000 for be­ing in the coun­try il­le­gal­ly, and de­tained at the al­ready over­crowd­ed Im­mi­gra­tion De­ten­tion Cen­tre in Aripo.

The se­cu­ri­ty agen­cies have been stretched try­ing to lim­it the num­ber of new ar­rivals who are hid­ing out in forests along the coast­line and aban­doned build­ings.

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Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on May 27, 2019, 12:39:24 AM
Migrant squatting, prostitution worry MPs
By Gail Alexander (Guardian).


Quat­ting, squab­bles and sex-re­lat­ed prob­lems.

Re­ports of squat­ting in Cen­tral Trinidad by some Venezue­lans and the oc­cu­pan­cy of aban­doned South hous­es are among the mixed bag of is­sues re­sult­ing from the in­flux of mi­grants to T&T in re­cent months.

Oth­er is­sues in­clude cer­tain Clax­ton Bay-based Venezue­lan women be­ing fol­lowed home by T&T men af­ter work—and maxi taxis fer­ry­ing “ar­rivals” out of cer­tain La Brea coastal ar­eas.

Par­lia­men­tar­i­ans on both sides who’ve been track­ing the im­pact on their con­stituen­cies of the ris­ing tide of im­mi­grants have not­ed these and oth­er is­sues as the two cul­tures try to deal with the new ex­pe­ri­ence pre­sent­ed by Venezuela’s in­sta­bil­i­ty and Gov­ern­ment’s up­com­ing bid to as­cer­tain how many Venezue­lans are in T&T dur­ing an amnesty reg­is­tra­tion process start­ing this week.

In the count­down to Fri­day’s start of the Gov­ern­ment’s two-week reg­is­tra­tion dri­ve, while most MPs said yes­ter­day that mi­grants main­ly try to earn their keep, cer­tain Op­po­si­tion MPs were doubt­ful—from what some Venezue­lans tell them—the reg­is­tra­tion will at­tract suf­fi­cient re­sponse to in­form Gov­ern­ment on ex­act­ly how many Venezue­lans are in T&T. That’s the in­tent of the ex­er­cise which will al­low reg­is­trants a one-year work stint and de­port the un­doc­u­ment­ed.

The T&T Guardian com­piled some of the ex­tent of the Venezue­lan in­flux—and ef­fects—in var­i­ous con­stituen­cies from the MPs:

Cou­va North MP Ra­mona Ram­di­al: “There’s a large num­ber of Venezue­lans in my area, main­ly do­ing low-pay­ing jobs and con­se­quent­ly we do have is­sues. There’s com­pe­ti­tion on for jobs and my con­stituents are com­plain­ing. Land­lords rent­ing to them cau­tious about be­ing able to con­trol ten­ants since one or two may rent a place and end up with 10 peo­ple in it. Squab­bles/quar­rel with neigh­bours are al­so be­ing re­port­ed.

“But there’s al­so a lot of squat­ting by Venezue­lans around Brick­field and coastal ar­eas where they’re mix­ing in with squat­ters there. Apart from the hu­man traf­fick­ing and pros­ti­tu­tion con­cerns that are on­go­ing, there are al­so emerg­ing con­cerns, that some fish­ing sec­tors, due to lack of reg­u­lar gas, may be in­clined to turn to ‘trans­porta­tion’ as al­ter­na­tive busi­ness.”

Port-of-Spain South MP Mar­lene Mc­Don­ald: “Venezue­lans have al­ways been in Wood­brook/Port-of-Spain ar­eas, as some came to learn Span­ish there over the years. But we’ve had an in­flux now as busi­ness­es are em­ploy­ing them. It rais­es many ques­tions when cit­i­zens can’t find work, yet they’re find­ing work, so we have to find ways to han­dle this as­pect. Many con­stituents tell me peo­ple are pass­ing dai­ly ask­ing if they have rentals and some con­stituents feel it’s be­com­ing dan­ger­ous with strangers in their area. Sun­day (yes­ter­day) morn­ing a cou­ple and two young chil­dren rang my bell—in a res­i­den­tial St Joseph area—seek­ing to rent; they’re go­ing door to door. I al­so see Venezue­lans rent­ing in East Port-of-Spain. But our up­com­ing reg­is­tra­tion process will help man­age the sit­u­a­tion.”

Many Venezue­lans rent and work in Port-of-Spain North but some land­lords are now mon­i­tor­ing rentals close­ly, res­i­dents al­so say.


Pointe-a-Pierre MP David Lee: “There’s quite a lot, in­clud­ing in Mara­bel­la, Clax­ton Bay; em­ployed in car wash­es, clubs, bars. There have been in­ci­dents but many go un­re­port­ed as some of these peo­ple are il­le­gal. Re­cent­ly, some fe­male Venezue­lan bar work­ers were fol­lowed to their Macaulay home by lo­cal cus­tomers. We’ve asked Clax­ton Bay po­lice for more reg­u­lar pa­trols, es­pe­cial­ly around bars’ clos­ing time. With Petrotrin’s clo­sure, we have a lot of aban­doned build­ings on the sea­side and I un­der­stand peo­ple are tak­ing oc­cu­pan­cy. We’re try­ing to as­cer­tain whether lo­cal or for­eign. Con­stituents are al­so con­cerned about job com­pe­ti­tion due to Petrotrin’s ab­sence. Since Gov­ern­ment is so dis­con­nect­ed from peo­ple, I re­al­ly doubt the reg­is­tra­tion in its cur­rent for­mat will at­tain its tar­get.”

Ma­yaro MP Rush­ton Paray: “We have a cou­ple hun­dred peo­ple. Those I’ve en­coun­tered say they may not reg­is­ter as they feel they’ll be de­port­ed af­ter a year. They don’t un­der­stand the process and don’t want to re­turn home as they feel the sit­u­a­tion with Maduro’s ad­min­is­tra­tion won’t be re­solved. So they may end up hid­ing. Many are work­ing in bars and oth­er places and there’s the per­cep­tion of pros­ti­tu­tion. I’ve ad­vised groups work­ing with them to let them know to con­duct them­selves bet­ter, as danc­ing half-naked in bars doesn’t as­sist their cause. We’ve all not­ed T&T fe­males are fum­ing on so­cial me­dia about the sit­u­a­tion. From a busi­ness per­spec­tive, mi­grants can as­sist the econ­o­my if their tal­ent’s used in ap­pro­pri­ate chan­nels, but Gov­ern­ment moved on this hu­man­i­tar­i­an cri­sis late.”

Oropouche East MP Roodal Mooni­lal: “There’s high con­cen­tra­tion in Pe­nal/Debe. Many work in bars and restau­rants, which has im­pli­ca­tions for so­cial/med­ical ser­vices. But some are un­able to af­ford ac­com­mo­da­tion and live in squalor. Some groups are pro­vid­ing wa­ter and foods but the sit­u­a­tion is strain­ing com­mu­ni­ty ser­vices. The dark­er side is re­port­ed pros­ti­tu­tion and im­pact on T&T fam­i­lies. One la­dy told me four months ago her hus­band vis­its a bar dai­ly - but doesn’t drink al­co­hol. Bar own­ers are tend­ing to hire Venezue­lans to at­tract cus­tomers. If more ar­rive, South­ern con­stituen­cies may buck­le un­der the strain of pro­vid­ing ser­vices, in­clud­ing ed­u­ca­tion since Gov­ern­ment failed to com­plete many schools.”

La Brea MP Nicole Olivierre: “We know they’re there but peo­ple on­ly see one or two Venezue­lans here; one man runs a restau­rant in the area. Con­stituents don’t com­plain but I’ve had re­ports that when peo­ple ar­rive from Venezuela, maxi taxis from out­side our area come to coastal points and take them out and we’re al­so aware of an il­le­gal ‘port’ where they ar­rive. It doesn’t seem they re­main here so it’s not im­pact­ing on con­stituents.”

Ch­agua­nas West MP Gan­ga Singh: “We have a large pres­ence. In places, five or six rent premis­es for $3,500/$4,000. Since Ch­agua­nas is a pro­duc­tiv­i­ty cen­tre, many are en­gaged in tyre shops, sell­ing etc. They’re hard work­ing. But my re­ports con­firm a lev­el of ex­ploita­tion and some re­ceiv­ing less than min­i­mum wage. Many have re­al fear of reg­is­ter­ing since they’re scared Im­mi­gra­tion will know where they are and de­port them. They’re con­fused by Gov­ern­ment’s state­ments and the lan­guage bar­ri­er isn’t help­ing. Giv­en the right ap­proach, the reg­is­tra­tion could work. But is­sues should have been ad­dressed to pre­vent the cur­rent ‘round up’ ap­proach.”


Fyz­abad - MP Lack­ram Bo­doe’s is over­seas but his col­league Su­ruj Ram­bachan, who is at his Fyz­abad prop­er­ty al­most dai­ly, said: “Venezue­lan num­bers have quadru­pled in the last three weeks in Fyz­abad and San­ta Flo­ra es­pe­cial­ly. Dai­ly, five to sev­en peo­ple come job-seek­ing, very humbly, even of­fer­ing to work for as lit­tle as $100 dai­ly. They plead that they have to eat so it’s pos­si­ble they could be open to ex­ploita­tion. They seem in bad shape, some come, hold­ing three-month-old ba­bies who they say come with them ‘on the boat’. It seems in some cas­es they’re oc­cu­py­ing aban­doned hous­es, but some ob­vi­ous­ly don’t have a fixed place of abode.

“Most of the men are be­low 25 and women un­der 25. Gen­er­al­ly, many tell me - via in­ter­preter- they’re ap­pre­hen­sive about reg­is­ter­ing be­cause they seem to think a yel­low pa­per they get from Im­mi­gra­tion - for the 90-day stay- al­lows them to stay here in­def­i­nite­ly. They keep that with them con­tin­u­ous­ly. One man was ar­rest­ed in Fyz­abad for not hav­ing it. They know lit­tle about min­i­mum wage but those I met are hard­work­ing and skilled, some even uni­ver­si­ty grad­u­ates. This cri­sis could strain south Trinidad’s re­sources. We should par­tic­u­lar­ly have a med­ical camp to en­sure they’re healthy, es­pe­cial­ly those liv­ing in for­est camps. While T&T peo­ple are very gen­er­ous, the pres­ence of so many Venezue­lans has seen so­cial ten­sions de­vel­op­ing with lo­cals un­able to get work. But it must be con­sid­ered it takes much courage to bring ba­bies on the high seas, so clear­ly, some of them sin­cere­ly want to earn a liv­ing.”

Na­pari­ma MP Rod­ney Charles: “ Ten per cent in my area are for­eign­ers and po­lice say a 10 per cent in­crease in crime is due to that. They’re hid­ing un­der the radar but you can see in­creas­es as they work in bars with con­trac­tors and oth­er places. The biggest sign of their pres­ence is women com­plain­ing to me that their fam­i­lies are be­ing bro­ken up by their pres­ence but we lack da­ta. The Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Min­is­ter’s even failed to ex­plain how they de­cid­ed on the num­ber of reg­is­tra­tion cen­tres which Venezue­lans are say­ing are in­suf­fi­cient.”

Ca­roni Cen­tral MP Bhoe Tewarie: “Their sig­nif­i­cant pres­ence is seen in apart­ment rentals where there are more peo­ple per room than nor­mal. The num­ber of con­stituen­cy com­pa­nies hir­ing al­so means ei­ther lo­cals aren’t get­ting jobs or don’t want to work. My in­for­ma­tion is the Venezue­lans are gen­er­al­ly un­der­paid and work long hours. While reg­is­tra­tion’s de­sir­able, it’s in a con­text where it’s hard to en­force, we seem un­able to man­age bor­der in­flux and there’s the ques­tion of how many peo­ple can T&T ab­sorb to sup­port all hu­mane­ly and deal with in­te­gra­tion.”

Ca­roni East MP Tim Gopeesingh: “ There are scores in St He­le­na/Kel­ly I en­coun­tered dur­ing flood­ing. Con­stituents help and ac­com­mo­date them, in­clud­ing find­ing them jobs. While there’s the sus­pi­cion of pros­ti­tu­tion, in­ci­dents are un­con­firmed.”

Point Fortin may­or Ab­don Ma­son: “We’d want to en­sure no neg­a­tives - crime, pros­ti­tu­tion, etcetera - in our area from any un­con­trolled in­flux. We have our own chal­lenges so we’d not want peo­ple in their quest to han­dle their own, add neg­a­tives to ours.”

Laven­tille West MP Fitzger­ald Hinds: "I haven't re­ceived com­plaints from con­stituents but at the na­tion­al lev­el we're deal­ing with the Venezue­lan pres­ence and the ef­fects on our porous bor­ders via our reg­is­tra­tion process and se­cu­ri­ty frame­work - there are 135 il­le­gal ports of en­try. But once our reg­is­tra­tion is done, we'll know who's pro­tect­ed eco­nom­ic mi­grant and who isn't."

Princes Town MP Bar­ry Padarath: “We've seen over 18 months Venezue­lans set­tling in St Ju­lian Vil­lage, Matil­da, Craig­nish and not­ed an equal num­ber of them mar­ry­ing lo­cal men and women, in­te­grat­ing ap­par­ent­ly to get res­i­den­cy. Dur­ing our Christ­mas Toy Dri­ve, we vis­it­ed homes and saw where they’ve set­tled and have chil­dren. What’s wor­ry­ing is there’s been sev­er­al al­ter­ca­tions in­volv­ing Venezue­lans in the area in the last six months and peo­ple who’ve em­ployed some as do­mes­tics have re­port­ed thefts."

Tabaquite- While MP Su­ruj Ram­bachan not­ed an in­flux in Gas­par­il­lo, Re­form and oth­er ar­eas, a dis­trict church has been en­sur­ing some Venezue­lans have a dai­ly meal. Cou­va/Tabqauite/Tal­paro Re­gion­al Cor­po­ra­tion chair­man Hen­ry Awong, added, “Con­stituents have two con­cerns - en­sur­ing they get jobs in this com­pet­i­tive at­mos­phere with Venezue­lans ar­riv­ing in batch­es and where some busi­ness­men are glad for the very cheap labour. Al­so, peo­ple are wor­ried health fa­cil­i­ties won’t hold up as some rur­al health cen­tres al­ready rou­tine­ly lack drugs.”

Ari­ma MP An­tho­ny Gar­cia: “Ari­ma has a high num­ber but I haven’t re­ceived com­plaints. Groups help them, in­clud­ing with food.”

San Juan-Barataria MP Fuad Khan: "My area has many judg­ing from high rental lev­els. Some have been robbed but didn't re­port it. Per­haps if they reg­is­ter, they'll re­port it. They work hard I've seen. Some mea­sure should be im­ple­ment­ed to en­sure they get min­i­mum wage af­ter reg­is­tra­tion. My con­stituents recog­nise once they mas­ter Eng­lish, Venezue­lans will be a force to be reck­oned with in T&T and our de­mo­graph­ics can change. So cit­i­zens should learn from them be­cause they'll be com­pe­ti­tion."

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on May 31, 2019, 06:50:43 PM
Venezuelans afraid of persecution following line of questioning
By Radhica De Silva (Guardian).


Some of the 115 Venezue­lans who com­plet­ed reg­is­tra­tion at Achiev­ers Ban­quet Hall in San Fer­nan­do on Fri­day say they are sur­prised at the line of ques­tions they were asked dur­ing their brief in­ter­views by Im­mi­gra­tion.

Some ex­pressed fear of be­ing per­se­cut­ed po­lit­i­cal­ly if the in­for­ma­tion they di­vulged was shared.

Speak­ing to Guardian Me­dia through our trans­la­tor Ang­ie Ram­nar­ine, Venezue­lan Juan Fer­nan­des said the ques­tions were lim­it­ed and did not take in­to ac­count their med­ical prob­lems or their med­ical needs.

An­oth­er Venezue­lan Jhoselys Fuentes said, "They main­ly want­ed to know how we got here, legal­ly or il­le­gal­ly. By boat or by plane? Whether we were work­ing now. Noth­ing about our med­ical his­to­ry or our needs," she said.

She not­ed that the ques­tion­naire giv­en to them when they were in­ter­viewed by Liv­ing Wa­ters was more de­tailed.

Liv­ing Wa­ters is the agency af­fil­i­at­ed with the Unit­ed Na­tions High Com­mis­sion for Refugees (UN­HCR).

Fuentes said most peo­ple be­lieved that the Venezue­lans who live in Trinidad were wealthy be­cause of their groom­ing. How­ev­er, she said it was part of their cul­ture to be well groomed.

Act­ing Min­is­ter of Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Fitzger­ald Hinds who vis­it­ed says the in­for­ma­tion pro­vid­ed by the Venezue­lans will be strict­ly con­fi­den­tial.

He not­ed that in the in­ter­est of na­tion­al se­cu­ri­ty back­ground checks will have to be done us­ing In­ter­pol re­sources.

He al­so said all Venezue­lans had a med­ical form to fill out which will pro­vide in­for­ma­tion on their med­ical his­to­ry.

Hinds added that in­struc­tions were giv­en to pro­vide print­ing and copy­ing ser­vices to the Venezue­lans who did not have hard copies of their re­spec­tive forms.

Ac­cord­ing to the min­is­ter, all Venezue­lans were ad­vised be­fore­hand to walk with pass­port sized pho­tographs.

He said the process is flow­ing smooth­ly and will get bet­ter as the day pro­gress­es.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on June 12, 2019, 12:25:18 AM
Tobago love for migrants.
By Casandra Thompson-Forbes (Guardian).


There has been out­pour­ing sup­port for Venezue­lan mi­grants who jour­neyed to To­ba­go to be reg­is­tered at the Car­o­line Build­ing, Scar­bor­ough.

Sev­er­al church­es, youth or­gan­i­sa­tions, pri­vate cit­i­zens and busi­ness­es pro­vid­ed blan­kets, wa­ter, break­fast, lunch and snacks, as they braved the hot sun, wait­ing in line on Tues­day.

Many of the mi­grants slept on the pave­ments in Scar­bor­ough, on the steps of busi­ness, as well as aban­doned build­ings, makeshift tents, some even get­ting soaked by the overnight rain­fall on Mon­day.

The To­ba­go Mis­sion of Sev­enth Days Ad­ven­tist Wel­fare de­part­ment, Del­Tech Dis­trib­u­tors, the Rox­bor­ough Po­lice Youth Club, were some of the or­gan­i­sa­tions which pro­vid­ed meals for more than 400 mi­grants, as they wait­ed their turn.

Guardian Me­dia un­der­stands that some of the Venezue­lans were ac­com­mo­dat­ed at the Har­mon SDA school at Rock­ley Vale, where some of them slept and took show­ers.

Al­though the cen­tre has been op­er­at­ing on a first come, first serve ba­sis, the mi­grants cre­at­ed their own sys­tem us­ing a pri­or­i­ty list­ing, en­ter­ing the cen­tre in batch­es, which al­lowed a free flow.

Speak­ing with Guardian Me­dia, co-own­er of Del­Tech Dis­trib­u­tors Kelvon Mor­ris said their team has been close­ly fol­low­ing the sit­u­a­tion with the mi­grants com­ing to To­ba­go and was moved by the num­ber of chil­dren hav­ing to en­dure the el­e­ments.

De­scrib­ing the sit­u­a­tion as un­for­tu­nate, he said, they were on­ly do­ing what they would have liked for them­selves if they were in a sim­i­lar sit­u­a­tion.

"The num­ber of To­bag­o­ni­ans com­ing over to To­ba­go over the last week has in­creased dras­ti­cal­ly and see­ing so much young peo­ple, so many kids in the hot sun and all that, we re­al­ly felt the need to reach out and as­sist the Venezue­lan mi­grants, be­cause at the end of the day this kind of un­for­tu­nate sit­u­a­tion in a coun­try could hap­pen to any­body and if we were in the same po­si­tion and we had to flee our coun­try for sur­vival, then we would hope wher­ev­er we run to we would be wel­comed. So it is in that con­text we re­al­ly came to­geth­er as friends, as young peo­ple in busi­ness and stuff to lend sup­port to the Venezue­lans, whom we know are go­ing through a tough time," he said.

He said that they plan to con­tin­ue their hu­man­i­tar­i­an ef­forts un­til the reg­is­tra­tion dead­line on Fri­day. He al­so urged oth­er To­bag­o­ni­ans to lend sup­port.

"We are en­cour­ag­ing every­body to do what they can in their own way, in their own space. We plan to go back, be­cause there are al­so many oth­er peo­ple who have al­ready in­di­cat­ed they will sup­port what­ev­er ad­di­tion­al re­sources we plan to put in­to it, some hope that in dif­fer­ent ways we will go back un­til the cul­mi­na­tion on Fri­day and do as much as we can and en­cour­age oth­ers to do as well," Mor­ris said.

Up late Tues­day, arrange­ments were be­ing made by the To­ba­go House of As­sem­bly to pro­vide a Mul­ti­pur­pose Cen­tre to house those who had nowhere to stay.

Venezue­lan mi­grants jour­neyed to To­ba­go af­ter sev­er­al at­tempts to reg­is­ter at the two Trinidad lo­ca­tions failed. Some ar­rived via the Cabo Star, the Galleons Pas­sage, the T&T Spir­it, as well as Caribbean Air­lines.

At the clos­ing of the cen­tre on Tues­day over 200 mi­grants were seen by Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cials, leav­ing hun­dreds to re­turn on Wednes­day.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on June 12, 2019, 06:53:18 PM
Tobago love for migrants.
By Casandra Thompson-Forbes (Guardian).


There has been out­pour­ing sup­port for Venezue­lan mi­grants who jour­neyed to To­ba­go to be reg­is­tered at the Car­o­line Build­ing, Scar­bor­ough.

Sev­er­al church­es, youth or­gan­i­sa­tions, pri­vate cit­i­zens and busi­ness­es pro­vid­ed blan­kets, wa­ter, break­fast, lunch and snacks, as they braved the hot sun, wait­ing in line on Tues­day.

Many of the mi­grants slept on the pave­ments in Scar­bor­ough, on the steps of busi­ness, as well as aban­doned build­ings, makeshift tents, some even get­ting soaked by the overnight rain­fall on Mon­day.

The To­ba­go Mis­sion of Sev­enth Days Ad­ven­tist Wel­fare de­part­ment, Del­Tech Dis­trib­u­tors, the Rox­bor­ough Po­lice Youth Club, were some of the or­gan­i­sa­tions which pro­vid­ed meals for more than 400 mi­grants, as they wait­ed their turn.

Guardian Me­dia un­der­stands that some of the Venezue­lans were ac­com­mo­dat­ed at the Har­mon SDA school at Rock­ley Vale, where some of them slept and took show­ers.

Al­though the cen­tre has been op­er­at­ing on a first come, first serve ba­sis, the mi­grants cre­at­ed their own sys­tem us­ing a pri­or­i­ty list­ing, en­ter­ing the cen­tre in batch­es, which al­lowed a free flow.

Speak­ing with Guardian Me­dia, co-own­er of Del­Tech Dis­trib­u­tors Kelvon Mor­ris said their team has been close­ly fol­low­ing the sit­u­a­tion with the mi­grants com­ing to To­ba­go and was moved by the num­ber of chil­dren hav­ing to en­dure the el­e­ments.

De­scrib­ing the sit­u­a­tion as un­for­tu­nate, he said, they were on­ly do­ing what they would have liked for them­selves if they were in a sim­i­lar sit­u­a­tion.

"The num­ber of To­bag­o­ni­ans com­ing over to To­ba­go over the last week has in­creased dras­ti­cal­ly and see­ing so much young peo­ple, so many kids in the hot sun and all that, we re­al­ly felt the need to reach out and as­sist the Venezue­lan mi­grants, be­cause at the end of the day this kind of un­for­tu­nate sit­u­a­tion in a coun­try could hap­pen to any­body and if we were in the same po­si­tion and we had to flee our coun­try for sur­vival, then we would hope wher­ev­er we run to we would be wel­comed. So it is in that con­text we re­al­ly came to­geth­er as friends, as young peo­ple in busi­ness and stuff to lend sup­port to the Venezue­lans, whom we know are go­ing through a tough time," he said.

He said that they plan to con­tin­ue their hu­man­i­tar­i­an ef­forts un­til the reg­is­tra­tion dead­line on Fri­day. He al­so urged oth­er To­bag­o­ni­ans to lend sup­port.

"We are en­cour­ag­ing every­body to do what they can in their own way, in their own space. We plan to go back, be­cause there are al­so many oth­er peo­ple who have al­ready in­di­cat­ed they will sup­port what­ev­er ad­di­tion­al re­sources we plan to put in­to it, some hope that in dif­fer­ent ways we will go back un­til the cul­mi­na­tion on Fri­day and do as much as we can and en­cour­age oth­ers to do as well," Mor­ris said.


Up late Tues­day, arrange­ments were be­ing made by the To­ba­go House of As­sem­bly to pro­vide a Mul­ti­pur­pose Cen­tre to house those who had nowhere to stay.

Venezue­lan mi­grants jour­neyed to To­ba­go af­ter sev­er­al at­tempts to reg­is­ter at the two Trinidad lo­ca­tions failed. Some ar­rived via the Cabo Star, the Galleons Pas­sage, the T&T Spir­it, as well as Caribbean Air­lines.

At the clos­ing of the cen­tre on Tues­day over 200 mi­grants were seen by Im­mi­gra­tion of­fi­cials, leav­ing hun­dreds to re­turn on Wednes­day.



These comments from Kelvon Morris of DelTech are among the most sensible comments presented in the public sphere regarding how to treat with the circumstance of the Venezuelan presence in T&T. There have been relatively few comments that fall into the category of being sensible articulations of how to engage with an intractable issue. :applause:

More broadly, kudos to Tobagonians for embracing the challenge.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on June 15, 2019, 07:13:19 AM
New visa policy for Venezuelans
By Anna-Lisa Paul, Sascha Wilson and Casandra Thompson Forbes


From Mon­day, Venezue­lans seek­ing to en­ter T&T will have to get a visa as the Gov­ern­ment an­nounced the new mea­sure to pre­vent the free flow of im­mi­grants in­to this coun­try.

Min­is­ter of Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty Stu­art Young made the an­nounce­ment at a me­dia brief­ing at the close of the two-week reg­is­tra­tion process which end­ed at 5 pm on Fri­day.

He said over 15,000 Venezue­lans were reg­is­tered at three cen­tres—Queen’s Park Oval, in Port-of-Spain, Achie­vors Ban­quet Hall, in San Fer­nan­do and Car­o­line Build­ing, in To­ba­go.

The Min­ster said from his in­for­ma­tion all the peo­ple wait­ing to be reg­is­tered were ac­com­mo­dat­ed but the sit­u­a­tion in San Fer­nan­do and To­ba­go was in to­tal con­trast to his state­ments. Told by re­porters that the sit­u­a­tion was not as he de­scribed, the Min­is­ter said that was the in­for­ma­tion he had.

“We have com­plet­ed the reg­is­tra­tion process as we had said we would, we stuck to it. There were ab­solute­ly no in­ci­dents or in­juries to any­one dur­ing the two-week process.”

Young claimed there no crowds of mi­grants wait­ing to be reg­is­tered by the cut-off time, but rather per­sons who were “ring-fenced” and would have been processed last night.

He said, “The sig­nif­i­cance of that is it shows the suc­cess of this reg­is­tra­tion process and the ac­cu­ra­cy of it.”

“This reg­is­tra­tion process was a well thought out and im­ple­ment­ed process that is now a suc­cess, al­so al­lowed to gath­er in­tel­li­gence,” he added.

In San Fer­nan­do, hun­dreds were turned away out­side Achie­vors Ban­quet Hall af­ter po­lice cor­doned off the line short­ly af­ter 5 pm. Those with on­line reg­is­tra­tion doc­u­ments they were lat­er told by an of­fi­cial from the reg­is­tra­tion cen­tre to vis­it the Im­mi­gra­tion Di­vi­sion next week to com­plete the process.

By night­fall, the group dis­persed, many of them miss­ing out the chance of ben­e­fit­ing from the amnesty which would have al­lowed them to live and work in this coun­try. Ear­li­er, the at­mos­phere was chaot­ic and tense as Venezue­lans were not sure what was hap­pen­ing and were try­ing to get in­for­ma­tion as what was go­ing to hap­pen to them as the cut off time was al­most up­on them.

Cal­iz Puer­to said they had or­gan­ised about five lists among them­selves which they were pass­ing on to the of­fi­cials to try to en­sure or­der and dis­ci­pline in the line.

She said each list had about 2,000 plus names. How­ev­er, that col­lapsed when the cut off time was ex­tend­ed by an hour and im­mi­grants be­gan rush­ing, hop­ing to get a place.

Po­lice of­fi­cers, sol­diers and mem­bers of the Air Guard stood guard to en­sure law and or­der. There were sev­er­al at­tempts to jump the line, caus­ing some to protest.

Around 6 pm law en­force­ment of­fi­cers stopped any­one else from join­ing the line. An of­fi­cial in­volved in the reg­is­tra­tion process came out about 15 min­utes lat­er and of­fi­cial­ly an­nounced that reg­is­tra­tion was closed.

Speak­ing in Span­ish, she in­formed them that those with the on­line reg­is­tra­tion forms to vis­it the Im­mi­gra­tion Di­vi­sion from Mon­day to com­plete the process. When asked about the peo­ple who have no forms, the of­fi­cial said she was not giv­en any in­for­ma­tion about them. This left many im­mi­grants in fear that the po­lice would ar­rest them.

In To­ba­go close to 600 im­mi­grants were ush­ered to Port Mall where they were lat­er told that they would have to spend the night and will be processed on Sat­ur­day.

In Port-of-Spain, there were no im­mi­grants wait­ing in the line when the venue closed reg­is­tra­tion at 5 pm but there were about 300 in­side the venue still to be processed.

Speak­ing at a brief­ing at the Min­istry of Na­tion­al Se­cu­ri­ty, in Port-of-Spain, the Min­is­ter said he had signed an or­der giv­ing ef­fect to the new visa re­quire­ment.

“Those visas will be is­sued out of Port-of-Spain via an ap­pli­ca­tion process that will take place out of our func­tion­ing em­bassy in Cara­cas.”

“On­ly Venezue­lans who will be al­lowed to en­ter our ports of en­try legal­ly are those to whom we is­sue visas,” he said.

Young said ad­di­tion­al dis­cus­sions are to held re­lat­ing to this lat­est pol­i­cy de­ci­sion—which pre­vi­ous­ly al­lowed per­sons to en­ter T&T and re­main for a 90-day pe­ri­od.

He warned that those who did not come for­ward to reg­is­ter will now be sub­ject to the laws of T&T when they are held and will be de­port­ed.

The Min­is­ter said de­tails on the num­ber of im­mi­grants who were processed dur­ing the two-week reg­is­tra­tion will be pro­vid­ed at a lat­er date.

The Min­is­ter said dur­ing the ex­er­cise the Po­lice Ser­vice was able to in­ter­ro­gate im­mi­grants and gath­er valu­able in­for­ma­tion to as­sist of­fi­cials mov­ing for­ward.

Young de­nounced the crit­i­cisms and mis­in­for­ma­tion he said had been cir­cu­lat­ed to, “mis­lead the world at large about our bor­der sit­u­a­tion.”

He de­nounced state­ments by the Op­po­si­tion Leader Kam­la Per­sad-Bisses­sar who claimed that T&T coast­line was be­ing in­vad­ed by Venezue­lan im­mi­grants, adding that the Coast Guard had been able to turn back sev­er­al boat­loads of mi­grants in the past two weeks.

He al­so ac­cused the Op­po­si­tion of in­cit­ing peo­ple to protest the pres­ence of the Venezue­lan mi­grants, re­fer­ring to a protest ac­tion out­side the Oval on Thurs­day night.


Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on September 17, 2019, 12:32:18 AM
PM blasts BBC ‘agenda’ in migrant report
T&T Guardian Reports.


Progress with US lead­ers, prob­lems with Unit­ed King­dom’s me­dia leader - the BBC.

While Trinidad and To­ba­go re­cent­ly made head­way in the US on Venezuela, Prime Min­is­ter Dr Kei­th Row­ley is most up­set with the British Broad­cast­ing Cor­po­ra­tion’s (BBC’s) re­cent doc­u­men­tary on T&T’s Venezue­lan amnesty reg­is­tra­tion ex­er­cise - and he’s writ­ing to the British Gov­ern­ment on it.

The BBC pro­gramme, ‘The Dis­placed’, which start­ed air­ing on so­cial me­dia yes­ter­day, fo­cused on Venezue­lans seek­ing bet­ter­ment here via Gov­ern­ment’s reg­is­tra­tion dri­ve over May to June. The Gov­ern­ment had stat­ed that 16,523 Venezue­lans reg­is­tered.

The BBC video aired as­pects of the reg­is­tra­tion process, in­clud­ing the an­ti-amnesty group which protest­ed out­side of the Queens’ Park Oval. Row­ley par­tic­u­lar­ly took is­sue with the as­pect claim­ing T&T had 40,000 Venezue­lans and on­ly 16,000 were al­lowed to reg­is­ter.

Row­ley said TT had 16,000 odd Venezue­lans here and they were reg­is­tered, in­clud­ing ap­prox­i­mate­ly 2,000 chil­dren.

But he added, “This didn’t pre­vent the BBC from go­ing out of their way to mis­rep­re­sent the po­si­tion on T&T. As a life­long lis­ten­er and re­specter of the BBC, the pro­gramme the BBC men­tioned on T&T isn’t wor­thy of the BBC.

“Every­one around has an agen­da and I’m not to be­lieve there are peo­ple in the BBC who al­lowed them­selves to be part of some­one’s agen­da. The BBC is too sa­cred to us in the Com­mon­wealth for that non­sense to go on,” he said.

He said that on the last day of the reg­is­tra­tion there was no­body in the line and Gov­ern­ment even con­tin­ued the process on the week­end af­ter.

“So it’s quite wrong for the BBC to put pres­sure, say­ing we have 40,000 peo­ple and reg­is­tered 16,00 and didn’t al­low the oth­er 14,000 to reg­is­ter. That’s feed­ing in­to peo­ple’s agen­da... I don’t know where they were get­ting those num­bers from,” Dr Row­ley said.

Row­ley said Gov­ern­ment made it clear if Venezue­lans didn’t want to be reg­is­tered, then they could not stay in this coun­try.

“You’re not wel­come; any­body who didn’t reg­is­ter, well, too bad for you..I don’t know there are 40,000 or even 14 Venezue­lans who want­ed to be reg­is­tered and who didn’t. So we take ob­jec­tion to that!”

“The BBC is a Gov­ern­ment agency in the UK and we’ll make a for­mal com­plaint to the British gov­ern­ment about that,” Row­ley added, say­ing he didn’t want T&T mis­rep­re­sent­ed in “this very dan­ger­ous world.”

He said he was dis­ap­point­ed the BBC was sub­scrib­ing to a view that the truth doesn’t mat­ter and the is­sue was what one can get peo­ple to be­lieve.

He said the BBC didn’t have to use the an­ti-amnesty group who protest­ed out­side the Oval and con­vey that as T&T’s po­si­tion since any­one would know the vast ma­jor­i­ty of na­tion­als were not of “that ilk and didn’t be­have like that.”

Row­ley added the BBC didn’t have to reach out to Gov­ern­ment since the reg­is­tra­tion in­for­ma­tion was pub­lic and Gov­ern­ment an­swered many Op­po­si­tion queries in Par­lia­ment.

“Our sto­ry is a very pub­lic one. I don’t know any BBC per­son had any dif­fi­cul­ty - if their mo­tive was ho­n­ourable- to speak to any gov­ern­ment mem­ber in­clud­ing my­self; I know of no such ap­proach, I’ve heard none of the min­is­ters speak about. This came like a bolt out of the night,” he said.

He said he found it in­ter­est­ing the item arose just when he was prepar­ing to at­tend the Unit­ed Na­tions (UN) soon. When News­day’s Sean Dou­glas asked if Gov­ern­ment had a com­mu­ni­ca­tion prob­lem, Row­ley snapped, “ You doh start dat! Doh start dat at all! You have no prob­lem get­ting through to Gov­ern­ment and I as prime min­is­ter stand here and an­swer every ques­tion you have! We’re not ac­cept­ing we have a com­mu­ni­ca­tion prob­lem where this is con­cerned! It’s not an ab­sence of com­mu­ni­ca­tion that caused these peo­ple to mis­rep­re­sent our cir­cum­stance.”

He said the UN had first start­ed the 40,000 fig­ure and that was wrong. He said there were peo­ple with agen­das who want­ed to in­flate num­bers to pres­sure T&T and peo­ple were de­mand­ing T&T in­sti­tute a refugee pol­i­cy, though the coun­try is fo­cus­ing on eco­nom­ic mi­grants.

The prime min­is­ter spoke about the de­vel­op­ments at a me­dia con­fer­ence yes­ter­day fol­low­ing his re­cent trip to the Unit­ed States.

He met US Con­gres­sion­al lead­ers of teams on For­eign Re­la­tions, Se­cu­ri­ty and Fi­nan­cial Ser­vices among oth­ers.

He said the bulk of the con­ver­sa­tion was on the Venezue­lan is­sue, se­cu­ri­ty co-op­er­a­tion and de­risk­ing dan­ger re­gion­al banks face from US banks’ hes­i­ta­tion to work with them. Sev­er­al re­gion­al states - in­clud­ing T&T - were be­ing black­list­ed due to Glob­al Fo­rum and oth­er Eu­ro­pean re­quire­ments.

Row­ley said US dis­cus­sions had gone as far as the pos­si­bil­i­ty of hav­ing hear­ings in the US on Venezuela and the fi­nan­cial ser­vices is­sue. Con­se­quent­ly, a US del­e­ga­tion is com­ing to T&T for a few days from Oc­to­ber 3 to dis­cuss the mat­ter sand US of­fi­cers are ea­ger to work with T&T.

He said T&T was con­grat­u­lat­ed for its han­dling of the Venezue­lan amnesty.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on January 27, 2020, 05:35:01 PM
Trinidad and Tobago birth certificates being sold to Venezuelans illegally.
T&T Express Reports.


‘Illegal activity’ at Registrar General’s Dept...

Trinidad and Tobago birth certificates are being illegally sold to non-nationals.

The scam, which allegedly involves several employees attached to the Ministry of the Attorney General and Legal Affairs Registrar General’s Department, has been ongoing for years, with Nigerians, Venezuelans, Indians and people of other nationalities benefiting from it.

Due to the turmoil in Venezuela, there has been an increase in sales, with certificates costing from $3,500 ­upwards.

The cost for a T&T birth certificate to nationals is $25.


Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on January 30, 2020, 06:27:38 AM
'We will take you to Venezuela'
T&T Newsday Reports.


Airline starts operating in PoS

The Venezuelan company Rutaca Airlines recognizes that 90 percent of travelers arriving in Venezuela from T&T do so through their private flights and, as such, have opened operations in Port of Spain to give the premises comfortable facilities to obtain their tickets .

The airline's director, José Gregorio Hidalgo, told Newsday that the company opened a new commercial office on Richmond Street last week. "We registered as a company in Trinidad and Tobago in November and from there we decided to open a customer service office and sell tickets to provide better service," said Hidalgo.

The Venezuelan ambassador in T&T, Carlos Pérez, was at the launch of the commercial office together with the owners of the company and other executives. Hidalgo emphasized that around 80 Trinidadians travel on each flight.

"Trinidad and Tobago has always had passengers because many local people travel to Venezuela for tourism and health, as there are many medical specialists who provide good services in Venezuela," he added.

He said that the flow of Venezuelans is maintained despite the brake set by the Trinidad and Tobago government, with the imposition of visas.

However, he acknowledged that passengers who now have a visa travel with greater peace of mind. “Before the visa, at the airport, a significant number of passengers returned due to several inconveniences (but) now, with the visa, they have a little more security, practically no traveler has returned us in recent months and this is positive " Hidalgo said that from T&T to Venezuela, many Venezuelans began applying for visas from work permits to travel to Venezuela, visit and return to T&T to continue their work.

Rutaca Airlines has been operating flights from Piarco to Porlamar in Venezuela since 2014, through several local companies offering various services, including legal representation before local authorities.

Then they incorporated the city of Barcelona, ​​in eastern Venezuela as a second destination, but due to the low influx of passengers, they decided to stop flights last year to this destination. The company opened direct trips to Caracas, which today is the second meeting point between Venezuela and T&T through Rutaca.

“The trips are Thursday and Sunday making a stop in Porlamar and continuing to Caracas,” said Hidalgo. This opened the possibility for new customers. He confirmed that ticket sales are made in Trinidad dollars.

"We are in T&T and we cover all services in local currency," said Elianny Winston, head of the Rutaca office in Port of Spain.

He gave good news for Venezuelans residing in the east of that country, since Rutaca Airlines will open direct flights from Piarco to the city of Maturín.

“The plan is for these flights to start leaving within a month. 90 percent of Venezuelans living in T&T are from eastern Venezuela (Bolívar, Anzoátegui, Delta Amacuro, Sucre and Monagas states) and Maturín is at the center of all these places, ”Winston said.

He added that Maturín flights are scheduled for Wednesdays and Saturdays. He also commented that Rutaca is offering its passengers connections to the Dominican Republic.


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The owners and managers of Rutaca Airlines opened the company's new office located on Richmond Street, with the presence of the Venezuelan ambassador in T&T, Carlos Pérez. - Grevic Alvarado

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Deeks on January 31, 2020, 11:11:20 AM
VIASA gone thru.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 04, 2020, 09:16:55 PM
US sanctions force T&T and Venezuela to tear up gas agreement.
By CURTIS WILLIAMS (cnc3.co.tt).


Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley has announced that Trinidad and Tobago and Venezuela have rescinded their agreement to jointly exploit 10 trillion cubic feet of natural gas in the Loran Manatee field and would instead develop it independently.

Rowley said the continued US sanctions on the Bolivarian Republic had made it all but impossible to jointly develop the gas and as a result, the two countries will go independently.

With this in mind, Royal Dutch Shell—who is the 100 percent operator of the Manatee block—has agreed to develop it and already has started planning its development.

Rowley noted that this should add roughly 275 to 400 million standard cubic feet of gas by 2024, and be a game changer,

The gas will be in the shallow water and should be able to come on stream in fewer than five years.

In a wide ranging address at the opening ceremony of the Energy Chamber's Annual Energy Conference, Rowley said he expected the natural gas shortages to come to an end by 2024.

He also predicted an increase in crude production to 90,000 barrels of oil per day by 2022 as BHP brings on its Ruby project.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 04, 2020, 09:20:19 PM
Gas deals with Venezuela off.
By CURTIS WILLIAMS (Guardian).


Prime Min­is­ter Dr Kei­th Row­ley has an­nounced that T&T and Venezuela have re­scind­ed their agree­ment to joint­ly ex­ploit 10 tril­lion cu­bic feet of nat­ur­al gas in the Lo­ran Man­a­tee field and would in­stead de­vel­op it in­de­pen­dent­ly.

In a wide rang­ing ad­dress at the open­ing cer­e­mo­ny of the En­er­gy Cham­ber’s An­nu­al En­er­gy Con­fer­ence be­ing held at the Hy­att Ho­tel in Port of Spain, Dr Row­ley al­so an­nounced yes­ter­day that “it is re­gret­table that we can­not move ahead with the Drag­on Project which is on hold, at this time, due to US sanc­tions on Venezuela.”

He said this coun­try was ready “at a mo­ment’s no­tice,” to move ahead with the project “on the lift­ing of such re­stric­tions since vir­tu­al­ly all the prepara­to­ry work has been done.”

Notwith­stand­ing, this he said “we are pro­ceed­ing with the Man­a­tee ini­tia­tive which is the sin­gle most sig­nif­i­cant de­vel­op­ment in the en­er­gy sec­tor in re­cent times.”

Row­ley said the con­tin­ued US sanc­tions on the Bo­li­var­i­an Re­pub­lic had made it all but im­pos­si­ble to joint­ly de­vel­op the gas and as a re­sult the two coun­tries will go in­de­pen­dent­ly.

As a re­sult, Roy­al Dutch Shell which is the 100 per­cent op­er­a­tor of the Man­a­tee block has agreed to de­vel­op it and has al­ready start­ed plan­ning its de­vel­op­ment.

Row­ley not­ed that this should add be­tween 275 to 400 mil­lion stan­dard cu­bic feet of gas by 2024, which he said would be a game chang­er,

He ex­plained that the gas will be in the shal­low wa­ter and should be able to come on stream in few­er than five yeas.

In re­cent years there have been con­cern about de­clin­ing nat­ur­al gas and the im­pact it has had on this coun­try. But the Prime Min­is­ter sound­ed a note of op­ti­mism say­ing he ex­pect­ed by 2024 the nat­ur­al gas short­ages will come to an end. He al­so fore­cast an in­crease in crude pro­duc­tion to 90,000 bar­rels of oil per day by 2022 as BHP brings on its Ru­by project.

PM Row­ley told the con­fer­ence that gas pro­duc­tion is pro­ject­ed to come on stream from Man­a­tee field, which forms a part of the Lo­ran- Man­a­tee cross-bor­der field and is lo­cat­ed in the ma­rine area of T&T.

The Lo­ran-Man­a­tee is a shal­low-wa­ter field that strad­dles the mar­itime bound­ary be­tween Trinidad and To­ba­go and Venezuela.

Row­ley said ex­plo­ration ac­tiv­i­ty, ini­tial­ly by state owned Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA) and lat­er by US Cor­po­ra­tion Chevron, which holds a 60 per cent in­ter­est, en­coun­tered a sub­stan­tial amount of gas in the Lo­ran field. In 2005 Chevron/BG, which held a joint in­ter­est of 50 per cent each in the Block 6 com­pris­ing Sub-Block 6b and Sub-Block 6d, dis­cov­ered the Man­a­tee field in Block 6d. Chevron sub­se­quent­ly sold its in­ter­est in Block 6 to Shell which now has 100 per cent in­ter­est in the block, the PM added.

“Shell has sanc­tioned this de­vel­op­ment and is cur­rent­ly gear­ing up to build the in­fra­struc­ture to pro­duce from this cross-bor­der field in keep­ing with the sched­ule as just men­tioned,” Row­ley not­ed.

In 2007, T&T and Venezuela ex­e­cut­ed a Frame­work Treaty re­lat­ing to the uni­ti­za­tion of hy­dro­car­bon reser­voirs that ex­tend across the de­lim­i­ta­tion line be­tween the coun­tries.

The Treaty es­tab­lished the gen­er­al frame­work un­der which any cross-bor­der reser­voir would be ex­ploit­ed.

Row­ley al­so not­ed that de­spite the strides made by the Caribbean, in its pen­e­tra­tion of sus­tain­able en­er­gy sources, re­new­able en­er­gy sys­tems ac­count for a small frac­tion of the re­gion’s un­tapped po­ten­tial.

“It is es­ti­mat­ed that the Caribbean holds 2,525 MW of po­ten­tial so­lar en­er­gy, 800 MW of po­ten­tial wind en­er­gy, and 3,770 MW of po­ten­tial ge­ot­her­mal en­er­gy. “

“These re­sources, if har­nessed, would dis­place ap­prox­i­mate­ly 2.7 mil­lion bar­rels of oil per year and save Caribbean coun­tries US$5.0 bil­lion in fu­el im­ports per an­num,” Row­ley added.

He said giv­en the po­ten­tial sav­ings Caribbean coun­tries have es­tab­lished am­bi­tious tar­gets in the im­ple­men­ta­tion of re­new­able en­er­gy sys­tems.

In ad­di­tion the PM not­ed that fi­nan­cial aid from donor coun­tries and in­sti­tu­tions, the falling costs of re­new­able en­er­gy tech­nol­o­gy and im­prove­ment in the ef­fi­cien­cy have made these tar­gets some­what achiev­able.

Row­ley said this coun­try, tem­porar­i­ly in­su­lat­ed from high en­er­gy costs by virtue of its hy­dro­car­bon re­sources, has been mea­sured in its ap­proach to re­new­able en­er­gy.

“This in part is to en­sure that cit­i­zens of Trinidad and To­ba­go are not bur­dened by the trans­for­ma­tion costs on the con­ver­sion to re­new­able en­er­gy sys­tems.”

“ Hav­ing can­celled our at­tempts at eco­nom­ic di­ver­si­fi­ca­tion in the form of man­u­fac­tur­ing of alu­mini­um prod­ucts, we are left, at this time, with sub­stan­tial quan­ti­ty of sur­plus in­stalled pow­er which has to be paid for but for which there is no im­me­di­ate mar­ket,” Row­ley said.

This con­di­tion, he added, makes in­vest­ment in re­new­ables a lit­tle tricky how­ev­er, he said T&T has not giv­en up on the need to join in with this fu­ture prospect.

Row­ley added that Trinidad and To­ba­go is al­so poised to par­tic­i­pate in the ex­ploita­tion of hy­dro­car­bon in the ma­rine ar­eas off the Guyanas.

“Our claim to the Unit­ed Na­tions Com­mis­sion on the Lim­its of the Con­ti­nen­tal Shelf is ex­pect­ed to be pre­sent­ed this year and if suc­cess­ful would ex­tend our mar­itime ju­ris­dic­tion sea­wards to ar­eas in close prox­im­i­ty to the Guyana-Suri­name Basin,” Row­ley added.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 05, 2020, 04:21:16 PM
'He was in wrong place, at wrong time'
By GREVIC ALVARADO (NEWSDAY).


"My brother was in the wrong place at the wrong time."

So said Adriana Viaje, sister of murdered Venezuelan Edgar Yamil Viaje Mohammed, 22, who was one of two men shot dead last week Thursday in Diego Martin.

In an interview on Monday, Viaje said her brother stopped at the La Puerta recreation ground on Farfan Street, at 4 pm, to lime and send WhatsApp messages to his relatives in Venezuela. Mohammed and Corey "Crime" Nickles, 39, were shot and killed.

"My brother arrived from work and, as he did every day, he stopped at La Puerta for a few minutes and that was when he was killed,” said Viaje. "He sent a message to my dad Edgar Viaje who is in Venezuela, greeted him normally. But when he did not reply to my father's message he (the father) felt that something was wrong.

A friend of the Viaje family, who witnessed the incident, later related that two men who were walking by pulled out guns and started shooting.

"They involved my brother in a story that wasn't true. My brother was killed simply because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He was not the target," added Viaje. An autopsy showed Mohammed was shot four times. Police found 17 spent shells at the scene

The family friend who saw what happened was buying water nearby when he heard the gunshots. Mohammed's mother Jameela got the news at the family's apartment near where the shooting took place. She rushed to the scene.

Viaje said the family is waiting for her father to arrive from Venezuela before they hold Mohammed's funeral.

"We are demanding justice. We went to the police and they have not given us my brother's belongings, nor have they told us if they have any detainees for the murder."

Funeral expenses are being covered by the family and Mohammed's friends and co-workers. Viaje said her brother used to travel back and forth from Trinidad and Venezuela visiting relatives, but decided to stay in Trinidad long term after getting a work permit from the government.

Mohammed had two sisters.

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The relatives of the young Venezuelan Edgar Yamil Viaje Mohammed (22), killed last thursday in Diego Martin: Mossaed Mohammed (left / cousin), Adriana Viaje (center / sister), Gilbert Dimas (center / brother-in-law) and Matías Scholtz (right / friend) - Sureash Cholai

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 12, 2020, 12:11:19 PM
38 Venezuelan nationals held in Woodbrook exercise
T&T Guardian Reports.


Thir­ty-eight Venezue­lan na­tion­als were ar­rest­ed by of­fi­cers of the Port of Spain Di­vi­sion dur­ing an an­ti-crime ex­er­cise con­duct­ed in the Wood­brook Dis­trict ear­ly this morn­ing.

The ex­er­cise was con­duct­ed be­tween 3:30am and 6:00am, on Tues­day 11 Feb­ru­ary 2020, at a night­club at the cor­ner Ari­api­ta Av­enue and Car­los Streets, Wood­brook.

A search of the es­tab­lish­ment re­sult­ed in 29 fe­male and nine male Venezue­lan na­tion­als be­ing ar­rest­ed. Among the fe­males, five were be­tween the ages of 15 and 17.

They were hand­ed over to the Im­mi­gra­tion Di­vi­sion to ver­i­fy their im­mi­gra­tion sta­tus.

A small quan­ti­ty of nar­cotics was al­so seized dur­ing the ex­er­cise.

In­ves­ti­ga­tions are on­go­ing.

The ex­er­cise was su­per­vised by ASP (Ag.) Sook­er, In­sp. (Ag.) Roberts and Sgts. Toolaram and Bharath, and in­clud­ed Im­mi­gra­tion Di­vi­sion of­fi­cials.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 14, 2020, 07:11:03 AM
No help for V'zuelan couple hit by tree
BY GREVIC ALVARADO (NEWSDAY).


The two young Venezuelans who were injured when a tree branch fell on them in Woodford Square on January 27, have not received help from the government or the PoS Corporation.

But Yuliannys Pérez, 19, and Jairo Fontt, 22, said they would not take legal action because they have no money to pay a lawyer.

“We have no money to eat or to pay the rent for the apartment, much less to pay a lawyer. Everything is in the hands of God,” Pérez said.

She has been unemployed since the beginning of January. Fontt, despite the accident, has got a temporary job.

Perez said, "We are still injured. My boyfriend is working in pain, but we need the money to buy our food."

Both have government work permits.

"The local authorities have a responsibility to help us because of the injuries we have suffered, it has been difficult for us to get a job," said Perez.

The couple weer sitting on a bench in the square when the branch fell on them, pinning them to the ground. Passersby immediately helped them and called the police and fire services.They were taken to the Port of Spain General Hospital of where they were treated and discharged on Tuesday.

"We were walking around the city looking for work and decided to sit in Woodford Square in front of the Red House to rest," Perez said shortly after the accident. They were praying to find a job.

“The tree made a strange sound and fell on us. We didn't have time to get out of the way. There was no wind, ”Pérez said.

The two come from Guiria in the Venezuelan state of Sucre. Fontt has been in T&T since last February and Pérez arrived in April. They live in St James.

After the incident, city corporation workers began assessing the other trees in Woodford Square and to cut down those considered dangerous.


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Jairo Fontt, left, and Yuliannys Pérez. - AYANNA KINSALE

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on February 14, 2020, 08:16:45 AM
They shouldn't have to pay an attorney.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Sam on February 14, 2020, 10:16:15 AM
They shouldn't have to pay an attorney.

Desperate people will do anything for money, this eh bong to be true either, a tree fall on you and you have a neck brace?

This eh whiplash, no scratches, bruse, nothing? and she man look healthy to me.

In these modern times, they coulda take some photos.

But if they telling de truth, then yes, de government should help them out.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 22, 2020, 06:22:44 AM
V'zuelan shot dead after stealing car
BY SHANE SUPERVILLE (NEWSDAY).


A Venezuelan man is dead after he pointed a gun at police early on Friday morning.

Police said Josue Perdomo robbed a man of his Nissan Tiida car on Richmond Street, Port of Spain, at around 3.20 am.

Perdomo drove off with the car but the owner called the police who saw it and chased it along the Priority Bus Route.

The car ran off the road at the corner of Sixth Avenue, Barataria.

Police called on the driver to come out but instead he pointed a gun at the officers and fired.

Police shot at Perdomo wounding him.

Police took Perdomo to the Port of Spain General Hospital where he died receiving emergency surgery.

Police found a bag in the car containing a gun and a wig.

Perdomo was wanted by police in relation to a stabbing incident in the Western Division.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 24, 2020, 09:52:00 AM
Video - How Venezuelans Penetrate Trinidad's borders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2x-MKndW1w)

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on March 11, 2020, 09:54:18 AM
14 Venezuelan teens among 37 arrested in Cedros
RIA CHAITRAM (NEWSDAY).


Fourteen Venezuelan minors were among 37 people held by police on Tuesday night in Cedros.

A police press release said the teens – 11 boys and 12 girls – who entered the country illegallywere held around 9.30 pm.

Police said five vehicles suspected transporting the Venezuelans were stopped and searched. Eight people from the South and Central Divisions were also arrested in connection with the incident.

The anti-crime exercise was carried out by the South Western Division Task Force (SWDTF), Emergency Response Patrol and Cedros Police Station.

Investigations are ongoing.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on April 11, 2020, 08:32:14 AM
Venezuela grateful for T&T's stand on US warships
GREVIC ALVARADO (NEWSDAY).


Venezuelan chancellor Jorge Arreaza has expressed the country’s gratitude for T&T’s position on US naval manoeuvres in the region.

The US is deploying warships in the Caribbean, saying it has intelligence reports of an increase in the illegal drug trade in the region.

The US government also recently imposed sanction on Venezuela and accused President Nicolas Maduro of narcoterrorism.

On Wednesday evening, Arreaza tweeted, “We appreciate that the government of T&T, in the voice of the PM, is calling for respect and compliance with international principles and regulations protected by the UN, with respect to threats of intervention and use of force in Venezuela.”

Dr Rowley was asked about the US moves at a media briefing on Monday.

He said, “Our position remains the same. T&T remains part of Caricom and we resolutely defend that position, saying that we see the Caribbean as a zone of peace. That has not changed, and we do not expect it to change.”

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Sando prince on May 22, 2020, 05:31:27 PM

32 Venezuelans Rescued By T&T Coast Guard To Be Repatriated

https://socamusictv.blogspot.com/2020/05/32-venezuelans-rescued-by-t-coast-guard.html
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on August 06, 2020, 12:33:42 PM
Venezuelan held by Customs officers with gun, ammo
JENSEN LA VENDE (NEWSDAY).


MEMBERS of the Customs and Excise Marine Interdiction Unit arrested a 23-year-old Venezuelan with a gun and ammunition on Wednesday.

Reports said the officers were on mobile patrol near Old Granville Road, Cedros, around 5 pm when they saw the man hiding in a bushy area near the beach.

The officers came ashore and held the Venezuelan with a shotgun, two shotgun cartridges and six round of 9mm ammunition. He was held and will be handed over to police to be officially charged, after securing a translator.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on August 13, 2020, 02:47:51 AM
Venezuelan woman faked death to survive attack, cop held
By Stacy Moore (Newsday).


An 18-year-old Venezuelan empanada vendor endured hours of torture, being stabbed, beaten, and raped by a group of men who left her in the bushes off the M2 Ring Road in La Romaine, but only after she pretended to be dead.

After an intensive search by police to find the teen’s attackers, a day later, police arrested one of their own colleagues in connection with the crime.

Investigators believe the policeman arrested owns the car the teen was abducted in.

The policeman ,who is also on suspension, was held near the Mucurapo Foreshore with another man believed to have been involved in the attack.

Senior police told Newsday it was a miracle the victim was found alive, given the extent and location of her injuries.

The young woman, who was stabbed several times in the neck, fingers and hands, was on her way to San Fernando to sell empanadas when she was abducted and attacked.

Bleeding from her wounds, the teen crawled out of the bushes along a dirt track until she made it to the road, where she collapsed, gasping for breath.

Police said a passing driver saw her and took her to the San Fernando General Hospital  where she had emergency surgery.

A police report said the young woman’s father had put her in a "PH" car near their Fyzabad home on Tuesday to be taken to San Fernando along with a container of empanadas.

Reports said as the car approached La Romaine, one of the two male passengers covered her face and tied her up. The driver then went to an isolated area off the road and she was assaulted and thrown out of the car.

She was also robbed of an undisclosed sum of money.

The teen is still in a serious condition under police guard at the San Fernando General Hospital.

The incident has generated an outcry on social media as users commended the police for their quick response and others describing the attack as demonic.

“This is so shameful,” one user said.

“We Trinidadians should feel ashamed. Nobody, especially outsiders, supposed to be treated in such a horrible manner.”

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on August 17, 2020, 08:53:05 AM
Womantra: Venezuelan women under attack in T&T
BY STACY MOORE (NEWSDAY).


THE NGO Womantra says Venezuelan women are under attack in this country.

Womantra said statistics from a recent joint select committee hearing showed there were 484 complaints of sexual assault by immigrants over a six-year period. For these assaults, no one was arrested.

The group is now questioning why the Police Commissioner has not spoken on the issue.

“Where is Gary Griffith? Why hasn’t he come out and addressed the public in light of these ghastly crimes against the Venezuelan community living in T&T? We continue to demand that the police be held accountable for their silence in times of great significance.”

Members said they cannot remain silent when Venezuelan women are being sexually assaulted, kidnapped, and exploited.

In a media release, Womantra said it was standing in solidarity with all the victims, as there now needs to be a shift in consciousness among the local population that not only acknowledges the crimes as a legitimate threat to T&T's national security but must also demand justice for these women and their families.

“From misogynistic discourse encoded in soca music to physical acts of violence and the exploit of their labour due to immigrants' status, we recognise and grimace at the ways these women suffer.” the release said.

“In June a Venezuelan woman was kidnapped at a fake job interview and taken to a location where she was sexually assaulted. In May, another woman was at home with her partner when they were robbed and she was sexually assaulted.”

The most recent attack occurred last Tuesday against an 18-year-old Venezuelan woman. The teen got into a "PH" taxi from Fyzabad to be taken to San Fernando where she was abducted and sexually assaulted, stabbed and beaten. She is now at the San Fernando General Hospital.

A policeman was detained in connection with this crime and is expected to be charged.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on September 03, 2020, 04:39:35 PM
Police find 2 Venezuelan quarantine escapees
ELIZABETH GONZALES (NEWSDAY).


Two of the three Venezuelan teenagers who escaped from the quarantine facility at Canada Hall, UWI, St Augustine campus have been found. They were found in Santa Cruz last Friday, ACP Wendell Williams told Newsday on Wednesday. The girls, aged 14, 15 and 17, did not show up for breakfast and could not be found on August 25. A nurse reported them missing to St Joseph police.

There has also been an increased police presence at the quarantine facility since the escape, Newsday was told. Police said the search was “based on information; it’s like a needle in a haystack,” and several areas have already been searched and more will be searched during this week for the third girl who escaped.

They reminded the public that anyone sheltering her could be charged with aiding and abetting. The girls breached the quarantine order, but when asked if they would be charged, Williams said no, “because of their circumstance.”

Asked to clarify the circumstances, he preferred not to go into details as to why they will not be charged or where they are being held now. He said they had completed their state quarantine and would not have to return to the facility they escaped from.

Investigations are ongoing.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on September 16, 2020, 04:11:56 PM
No influx of Venezuelan crabs in Trinidad
LAUREL V WILLIAMS (NEWSDAY).


The economic crises in Venezuela, coupled with the pandemic, seem to have decreased the illegal importation of crabs for sale in T&T.

As of Wednesday, chairman of the Siparia Regional Corporation Dinesh Sankersingh said the corporation had no reports about the neighbouring country's crabs being sold on the local market.

Sankersingh told Newsday in a telephone interview that the corporation is more concerned about the growing Venezuelan migrant population. He said, considering the pandemic, the incoming illegal migrants are not screened or tested on arrival.

"We have not heard about any crabs coming in at this time. What we are concerned about is the porous borders. The issue is the number of people entering illegally and the threat and fear of the virus coming in."

Cedros, which falls under the corporation, is one the closest communities to Venezuela.

Contacted for comment, Minister of Agriculture, Land and Fisheries Clarence Rambharat said: "Illegal activities between T&T and Venezuela are going on for a long time. It is something that I have spoken about a lot and, in particular, the illegal trade in wildlife."

He said he was unable to pinpoint a specific case.

"But, we deal with reports and support law enforcement on a daily basis. The security of the border and the enforcement of the law is handled by the Ministry of National Security."

Crab season is generally year-round, and many people catch crab as a form of recreation.

Vendor Narie Mahase, who lives in Cunupia, explained that the best time to catch crabs in TT is in July to September, "about three days after the full moons." Like the chairman, he said he has not heard about any influx of the Venezuelan crabs.

But, unconfirmed reports of the illegal trade "in the south side" suggest a few on the market, he said.

"People have to be in this business for many years to know the difference. It is hard to tell them apart. The tastes are different too. Crabs in Venezuela are bigger," Mahase said.

"The local crabs are sweeter. People from many of the other Caribbean islands do not eat crabs, so those countries have a larger population of these animals."

Mahase previously sold crabs at the Tunapuna market for more than ten years and has been selling at the Caroni bridge at the Southern Main Road for the same period.

At the Caroni bird sanctuary, he said, about 95 per cent of the area is prohibited from catching crabs. People are allowed to catch crabs in the remaining five per cent area, but they must get a pass to enter the prohibited area to get to and from the designated crab-catching area.

He complained that he and others have had problems getting the passes which is renewed for six months.

"They do not like to renew it for us. I do not know why. Once, I did not get it renewed in over two years. This is challenging for us. It is easier to pass through the sanctuary than to take a longer route by sea to get to the mangroves.

"Throughout the year, I have workers who catch crabs. We also catch them in Waterloo, Carli Bay, Mayaro, Woodland."

He said the blue crabs, hairy crabs (found in the mangroves), and sea crabs are T&T's main species.

Mahase said, "Blue crabs are the most expensive. It sells for five for $100. Hairy crabs cost about $50 for five. People are buying crabs."

Another crab catcher / vendor who asked to remain anonymous had the same views.

"All or crabs are legal and safe to eat."

In July 2018, Rambharat had warned the public to desist from buying fresh crabs from Venezuela. The warning came in the wake an advisory from the US Food and Drug Agency that the seafood may be contaminated with "vibrio parahaemolyticus – a bacterium in the same family as those that cause cholera."

The advisory had warned that people infected with vibrio parahaemolyticus experience diarrhoea, vomiting, abdominal cramps, nausea, fever, and stomach pain. Diarrhoea tends to be watery and occasionally bloody.


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Crabs for sale along the Southern Main Road, Caroni. - Lincoln Holder

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Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on September 16, 2020, 04:14:28 PM
Venezuelan baby abducted
GREVIC ALVARADO (NEWSDAY).


An unidentified woman abducted a nine-month-old baby girl from her mother in Chaguanas on Tuesday.

The mother, Valentina Hernández said a "thin woman" had taken her daughter Sofia Rivas at about 7.30 am.

"The woman – she looks Indian to me – she came to the place where we are renting. She greeted me and after we spoke for a little while, the woman – she was very friendly and she told me she wanted to take my baby to buy a juice for her in the supermarket that is downstairs from the apartment where we live," said a shaken Hernández.

CCTV cameras at the supermarket later recorded the woman walking the aisles with baby Sofia in her arms before leaving with the child in a grey Nissan car with the licence plates PCU 642, which was parked nearby and driven by a man.

Realising that the woman had left with her child, Hernandez reported the abduction to the Chaguanas police. The desperate mother is begging anyone who has seen her baby or knows of her whereabouts to call the nearest police station.

Up to the time this article was published, baby Sofia remained unaccounted for.

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Nine-month-old Sofia Rivas was found by police in Curepe -

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Post by: Flex on September 16, 2020, 05:20:57 PM
Cops rescue baby Sofia in Curepe
By Rhondor Dowlat-Rostant (Guardian).


Police officers from the Central Division and Anti-Kidnapping Squad have rescued baby Sofia Rivas in Curepe.

According to police reports, after receiving intelligence, officers went to an apartment at Mc Inroy Street in Curepe just after 11 pm, where they recovered the nine-month-old baby girl, who had been abducted from her mother Valentina Hernandez earlier on Tuesday.

Baby Sofia was still in the hands of the woman who had reportedly abducted her earlier.

Baby Sofia was said to be in good health but was taken to the nearby Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex for a medical check before being taken to her mother.

The woman was arrested and is now assisting officers with their investigations.

Earlier in the day, officers had been searching for an East Indian woman and the driver of a silver-grey station wagon, whom they said could have assisted in the alleged abduction of the child.

Sofia’s mother, Valentina Hernandez, who is a Venezuelan national, had her worst nightmare on Tuesday, when her baby was taken from her by a woman who approached her under the pretense that she was “taking her (Sofia) for a walk to the supermarket to purchase a juice for her.”

However, while the woman did go to the supermarket, which is on the same property as the apartment complex in which Hernandez lives, she soon got into the vehicle with the baby and was never seen again.

The distraught mother told police that at about 7.30 am, she was at the apartment complex at Pokhor Road, Longdenville, Chagauanas, when she was approached by the woman, whom she knew as a tenant from the said building.

Police said after conversing with the mother, the woman asked her if she could carry the baby with her for a walk to the nearby 6to9 Convenience Store and Ice Cream shop, which is located in an annex of the three-storey apartment building.

However, Hernandez said she found it strange when the woman did not return with her child and she got worried. After three hours there was still no sign of her child and the woman made her way to the Longdenville Police Post where she reported her baby missing.

Police officers who responded went to the supermarket where they recovered CCTV footage which showed the baby in the woman’s arms as she walked through the various aisles of the establishment. The footage also showed the woman leaving with the baby girl and entering a Nissan AD station wagon, licensed PCU 6452, which was parked a few meters away from the supermarket. The driver, a man, then drove off with the woman and child. It is believed the man works “PH” along the Longdenville to Chaguanas route.

The officers later spoke to several tenants from the apartment complex as part of their investigation.

Speaking with the Guardian Media yesterday evening, a male relative of Hernandez said the family came from Venezuela seeking a “better life” and now their future plans had been ruined with Sofia’s abduction. He, however, said they strongly believe they will get back baby Sofia.

“This is very bad. You can’t trust nobody but we will get back the baby. We are very sad,” the male relative, who did not want to be named, said.

A worker in the convenience store, who was on duty when the woman entered with the child, said he did not find anything strange and was shocked to hear from the mother that the baby had been abducted.

“Apparently, the woman was staying at an apartment with someone for a week or just a few days. We didn’t really know her but she didn’t act strange. She did not even purchase anything. She just left after walking around a bit,” the worker, who also did not want to be named, said.

Asked if the vehicle the woman entered was known in the area, the worker replied, “No, we don’t know.”

The owner of the store and apartment building was on the compound during Guardian’s Media’s visit but refused to comment about the situation.

Police sources said preliminary investigations have revealed that the woman who took the child lives in the same apartment complex as Hernandez.

“From what we are being told, it’s that the mother knew the woman as they are from the same building and she was accustomed to talking to her (the mother) in the past few days. The mother said she didn’t expect the woman to take her baby but we have several leads and we are hopeful to find the woman and the baby safe and sound,” the police source said.

A resident from the area, who wished not to disclose his name, said he was in shock to hear what took place.

“I saw the police there as I was leaving home to go to work and I really saw it all over Facebook and I realised that it happened right here. It now click to me but it always have people in that yard so this is real shocking and sad.”

Anyone with information on the woman and baby’s whereabouts is asked to call the police at 999, 555, 800-TIPS, 482-GARY or the Chaguanas Police Station at 665-5271.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on September 22, 2020, 12:43:31 AM
Three charged with baby's kidnapping
T&T Guardian Reports.


One woman and two men have been charged with the kidnapping of nine-month-old Sophia Rivas which occurred on September 15, 2020.

Anjali De Gannes, 19, of Longdenville Old Road, Chaguanas, Judah Taitt, 58 and Jdan Taitt, 24, both of McInroy Street, Curepe, were jointly charged Monday with kidnapping for ransom based on advice received from Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Roger Gaspard SC.

JDan Taitt was also charged with negotiating a ransom.

Two other suspects were released following investigations.

On the morning of the incident, a report was received from the child’s mother, a Venezuelan national, that while at her home on Longdenville Old Road, Longdenville, Chaguanas, the child was taken by a woman without her permission.

Sometime later, she received a telephone call from the suspect demanding $20,000 in cash for the safe release of her daughter.

Later that day around 10:50 pm, acting on intelligence, officers proceeded to McInroy Street, Curepe, where they found and safely rescued the baby.

The exercise was spearheaded by Ag Snr Supt Curtis Simon and included officers of the Central Division Criminal Investigations Department (CID), Operations Unit, Chaguanas CID, Couva CID, Central Division Gang Unit, the Central Division Task Force, the Longdenville Police Post, the Anti-Kidnapping Unit, the Special Members of the public are asked to like and follow the TTPS via our Facebook and Twitter pages for the latest news and information on matters of interest to the general public. Investigations Unit, the Cybercrime Unit, and the Trinidad and Tobago Prison Service.

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Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on October 19, 2020, 12:23:00 AM
Young: No truth US deported Venezuelans through T&T
By Gail Alexander (Guardian).


National Security Minister Stuart Young has dismissed claims by US Senator Robert Menendez that the US conducted “stealth” deportations of Venezuelans back to their homeland through T&T over January to March.

“As far as I’m aware there is no truth to the allegations that the US deported Venezuelans through T&T,” Young said yesterday when contacted.

International media reported last Friday on statements by Democrats Representative Menendez, member of the US Senate Foreign Relations team.

Menendez called T&T’s name when he sought details on the “stealth deportations.”

This was in a letter written to US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao and the Department of Homeland Security.

Menendez’s letter stated: “New documents provided to my office confirm that US deportations to Venezuela continued via third countries at least until March 2020, while the Trump administration has offered little assurance that it will not continue to forcibly return Venezuelans to a regime the United Nations recently stated has committed crimes against humanity.”

Menendez accused the Trump administration of “surreptitiously deporting Venezuelans through third countries,” though US law prohibits forced repatriation of refugees to places where their lives or their freedom could be threatened.

Menendez said the State Department “in recent weeks” had confirmed to his office in writing that the deportations occurred via T&T between January and March 2020. It wasn’t clear how many indirect deportations occurred. Menendez said the deportations appeared to violate a 2019 US travel ban prohibiting air travel to Venezuela.

Menendez asked for more information on countries which served as third country transit points.

He also sought details of US consultations on Venezuelan deportations with each government facilitating their transfer “including Trinidad and Tobago, Panama and any other countries involved.”

He noted Elliot Abrams (State department representative for Venezuela and Iran) said in March there wasn’t a complete freeze on deportations of Venezuelans but the number was “extremely low—data showed over 100 were deported up to February. In August Abrams said deportations weren’t being done as it was unsafe to deport Venezuelans home.

However, Young said of Menendez’s claim, “It’s a strange proposition. We never agreed to any such operations. I’ve confirmed with Immigration that we have no knowledge of any such incident.

“The T&T Government knows of no such instance and certainly didn’t agree to any such exercises,” he added

Asked about Menendez’s claim that the State Department had confirmed deportations occurred via T&T earlier this year, Young maintained the deportations didn’t happen:

“It would have to have the Government’s approval and it did not. Neither Immigration nor me are aware of any such incident,” Young stressed.

Foreign Affairs wasn’t aware of the situation. Previous Foreign Affairs Minister Dennis Moses—in office earlier this year—didn’t answer calls. Nor did the US Embassy Public Affairs spokesperson.

Menendez’s claims arose when the aspect of Venezuelans in the US is among immigration issues is featuring in the current US Presidential election campaign.

Democrats contender Joe Biden has promised to grant Venezuelan migrants temporary protected status.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on November 22, 2020, 03:35:08 PM
Minutes before court hearing: Children packed on pirogues, deported
By Anna Ramdass (T&T Express).


Mere minutes before an emergency court hearing today at 12.30 p.m. some 16 Venezuelan children were forced to board two pirogues to take them back to Venezuela.

Attorney Nafessa Mohammed said it is an inhumane act to place these children in an uncovered pirogue and speedily shuttle them back to Venezuela in full knowledge that an application had been made to the court on their behalf.

She said this is an abuse of power, authority and total disrespect for the court process.

On Saturday Mohammed appealed to the authorities to not deport 16 Venezuelan children including a four month old baby on a boat from Cedros.

She made an emergency habeus corpus application to the court today to stop the deportation.

The matter is to be heard today at 12.30 p.m.

Despite this, orders were given to bring in the pirogues and the children were taken from the Cedros police station to the treacherous seas and rainy weather.

Mohammed said there is need for an investigation on who gave the orders for the children to be shipped back to Venezuela mere minutes before the court matter.

The 16 children came to Trinidad a week ago and were held by police in Chatham.

They were taking to the Erin police station where they have been for the past week.

Yesterday, they were transported to the Cedros police station where arrangements are being made to put them on a boat and send them back to Venezuela.

Mohammed said these children have relatives in Trinidad who are registered and have Trinidad and Tobago registration cards.

She said they were all tested for Covid-19 at the police station and the results were negative.

She pleaded for authorities to have a heart as these children have already endured the trauma of surviving a treacherous sea journey to Trinidad and then detained at a police station for days.

Mohammed's plea fell on deaf ears as the children are currently on the pirogues.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on November 24, 2020, 05:44:29 PM
They're back! Venezuelans deported on Sunday return to T&T
T&T Guardian Reports.


After three days on the rough seas, 16 Venezuelan children, the youngest a four-month-old baby and the eldest child 14 years, along with 11 adults, mostly women, returned to the shores of Trinidad.

Hungry and trembling from the cold, they arrived shortly before 1 pm in two pirogues at the Los Iros beach in Erin. 

They were deported on Sunday, after being detained at a police station for five days, just hours before the start of court proceedings regarding their status.  Justice Avason Quilans-Williams subsequently ordered the state to return the migrants to the country.  

Daniel, a Venezuelan national who is legally registered in Trinidad and who came to greet his cousins, said they had engine problems out at sea and never arrived in Venezuela.  He told Guardian Media he was happy that they were back here.

Fyzabad resident Torrence Farrier was at the beach when he saw the boats coming in.

“We just notice that this boat was coming in with these people and what really hurt me is the fact that there is a three-month-old child on the boat, and they had to pick up that child to bring that child here,” he told Guardian Media.

Torrence Farrier said he felt sad about how the migrants were treated by the local authorities.

“They were cold and hungry… It hurt me. That’s why I say ‘Mom, what it have to eat?’ and I take the food and give them.”  He gave them a meal of chicken, rice, and peas.

The migrants were taken away in a police bus.

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The Venezuelan refugees had spent days on the water, before being brought back to Trinidad, after their deportation on Sunday 22 November 2020, before their court case could be heard.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on November 26, 2020, 05:47:23 PM
PM on Venezuelan migrants again: They’re here for good
DARREN BAHAW (NEWSDAY).


The temporary registration of 16, 523 Venezuelan nationals, which allowed them to work and live in Trinidad and Tobago legally, will invariably result in their permanent relocation, according to the Prime Minister.

In his second statement, in just over two and a half hours, Dr Rowley lashed out at critics, including Opposition MP Dr Roodal Moonilal, who described his initial statement condemning the Organisation of American States and the US administration as being too angry and condemnatory.

He described Moonilal as an "opportunistic carbuncle" in his latest missive.

Rowley said, "If we appear to be a "soft-touch flexible-border neighbour," this country would be overrun by tens of thousands of illegal migrants in a "jiffy."

Pointing directly at Moonilal, the PM said: "The fact is that as you and others decry and bemoan our own circumstances here our life and living opportunities are still very attractive to many Venezuelans and others."

He accused the UN Human Rights Committee of exploiting the migrant crisis "to inflate and sustain their own operational budgets" as he dismissed their estimates of 60,000 Venezuelans living in T&T.

The Prime Minister said those who have benefited from the registration process do not have the right to "import all their families and trafficked customers into T&T," since all Venezuelans seeking to enter the country must obtain a visa. That requirement went into effect at the close of the registration process last June.

"Clearly it will not be acceptable for them to remain as people at the margins of our society, eking out a living with children not able to be properly schooled or even being born here as new citizens of T&T," Rowley said, offering a glimpse of how Cabinet will handle the expiration of their work permits on December 31.

He said the "wholesale deportation of forced repatriation" was not a feasible option.

"It is against this background that protection of all persons within our borders need to have their present and future circumstances protected by our suite of laws enacted specifically for this purpose," he said.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on December 01, 2020, 01:34:55 AM
Deportations stopped too late for 18 of 19 Venezuelans
JADA LOUTOO (T&T NEWSDAY).


EIGHTEEN of the 19 Venezuelans whose deportations were stopped by a High Court judge on Saturday were sent back to their homeland the same day.

Newsday understands that the 18 were among a total of 180 who were sent back on Saturday on two Coast Guard vessels which two trips which left at 9.44 am and 10.40 am. One man was transferred to prison where he has to serve one month simple imprisonment for illegally entering T&T.

Newsday also understands that by the time Coast Guard officials received the order of Justice Avason Quinlan-Williams on Saturday, none of the Venezuelans were in T&T’s territorial waters after having already been handed over to Venezuela’s Guardia Nacional.

The matters, which were filed by attorneys Criston J Williams, Kerrina Samdeo and Jerome Riley, were expected to come up for hearing at 7.30 pm on Monday night before Quinlan-Williams who ordered the State to account for the Venezuelans who were all previously detained at the State’s quarantine facility at the heliport in Chaguaramas.

Since they are no longer in T&T, and since the State has responded to the court’s directive to say where they are, the substantive issues raised in the judicial review applications filed by the attorneys were transferred to Justice Devindra Rampersad on Monday. The State has asked for an adjournment to Tuesday and the request was granted. It has also said the judge’s orders stopping the deportation of the 19 were served after they had already left T&T’s jurisdiction.

Also on Monday, attorneys for the 26 Venezuelans who returned to Trinidad last week Tuesday, after they were “escorted” out of T&T’s territorial waters two Sundays ago, filed individual applications which have been docketed to a series of judges. Hearing for one set of applications is expected to come up on Tuesday before Justice Frank Seepersad, while some have gone to Justice Carol Gobin and Justice Joan Charles.

Charles has been assigned the cases of three children – ages 11 years, 17 months and four months – who were unaccompanied on the pirogue. Those applications were heard at 8.30 pm on Monday.

Also Monday, the attorneys reappeared virtually before Justice Quinlan-Williams for two sets of Venezuelan families who were part of the group of 26. They are represented by attorneys Gerald Ramdeen, Nafeesa Mohammed, Dayadai Harripaul and Umesh Maharaj and were asking for access to their attorneys as well as for their families to bring supplies and toys while they serve their 14 day quarantine at the heliport facility.

The 26 Venezuelans were removed from the Erin police station and taken to the heliport last week.

At the hearing on Monday, Quinlan-Williams allowed the father of a four-year-old boy, the child’s mother and sister permission to carry supplies and toys at the heliport. After their quarantine, they will be released in the custody of the father who is a UNHCR asylum seeker and applied for a ministerial permit. That family has since been registered with the UNHCR and their deportation stayed until the case is determined.

In the case involving another family – a mother and her three children who received orders on Sunday preventing their removal from T&T – the State has argued that nothing is stopping their deportations and their matter is expected to come up again later this week.

On Sunday, attorneys were told that the 26 Venezuelans who came in on Tuesday, were still at the facility and were not among the 160 deported on Saturday morning.

In a release sent by national security ministry on Saturday night, the deportation of 160 Venezuelans was announced. Since children are not "deported” it is not certain if the additional 20 accounted for by the Coast Guard were children.

The release reminded of the government’s “unprecedented humanitarian exercise” of a migrant registration exercise, in 2019, done out of concern for Venezuelans. The release said the result of this exercise was that 16,523 Venezuelans were registered and permitted to be legally in T&T.

The release also mentioned the court matter involving the 19, saying the minister learned about it in a media report that an application had been filed and the judge made certain orders for “some Venezuelans who are in Trinidad and Tobago illegally.

“While the Government acknowledges that there may be personal views surrounding the illegal entry into Trinidad and Tobago by persons, the Government, through the Ministry of National Security and other arms of the state, will continue to apply the laws and do all that it reasonably can to secure the borders and prevent illegal entry into Trinidad and Tobago. The measures being taken including the closure of our borders are to protect the health and safety of our citizens and those legally in Trinidad and Tobago,” the release said.

On Friday, immigration officials released 17 Venezuelan – 11 children and six adults, two of whom are in their 80s – from the state quarantine facility at the heliport in Chaguaramas and earlier this week, ten children and four mothers were also ordered released from the facility.

They were placed on orders of supervision but attorneys for the State could not say why they were released.

Earlier last week, Charles released ten children and four mothers pending the hearing and determination of their cases.

The Venezuelans, in their separate court actions, are seeking immediate relief, ordering the chief immigration officer to put them on orders of supervision as well as quashing any order of deportation pending their applications with the Living Water Community for the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) for asylum-seeker status.

They are also challenging the failure of the Minister of National Security to make a decision to quash their orders of deportation in keeping with the national policy for refugees and asylum-seekers affects them.

They also intend to ask for a declaration that the draft national policy to address refugees and asylum-seekers was illegal and irrational to the 1951 UN convention on the status of refugees and its 1967 protocols. They intend to argue that the failure to make a decision to quash an order of deportation against them was ultra vires Article 33 of the Refugee Convention 1951 which prohibits the refoulement of refugees and that the failure by the chief immigration officer to hold a special inquiry hearing was illegal.

Attorneys have asked for disclosure of any policy, written or unwritten, to address refugee/asylum matters in Trinidad and Tobago; any policy relating to the detention of those deemed vulnerable; and any declaration or notification by the Government that it has denounced the 1951 UN Convention on the Status of Refugees.

But, National Security Minister Stuart Young told the Parliament on Friday, there was a policy but he could not disclose it since it was subject to court action.

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Young's statements on Venezuelan migrants worry Law Association
JADA LOUTOO (T&T NEWSDAY).


File photo: Venezuelans including 16 children on board a pirogue that made its way to Los Iros beach  after a high court judge ordered the authorities to produce them following a deportation order. - Lincoln Holder
File photo: Venezuelans including 16 children on board a pirogue that made its way to Los Iros beach after a high court judge ordered the authorities to produce them following a deportation order. - Lincoln Holder
RECENT statements by National Security Minister Stuart Young on court proceedings involving illegal Venezuelan migrants have concerned the Law Association.

In a release on Monday, the association said it was concerned by aspects of the press conference at which the minister questioned the role played by lawyers in the court proceedings which seek to prevent the deportation of Venezuelan migrants.

The association said it was laso concerned by "his criticism of the court for not applying the law but 'the policy that it wants, ' and his lament about the 'upsurge in habeas corpus proceedings' the use of which he described as “very dangerous.'"

The association reminded that the courts were bound to uphold all the laws of Trinidad and Tobago and to hear and determine all applications brought before the court.

“For their part, attorneys-at-law are duty-bound to represent their clients fearlessly in order to ensure that the law is followed and the State is held to account.

“The pandemic poses a danger to all of us, but the fundamental rights and freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution to all who happen to be on our shores, including especially the rights of the child, the independence of the Judiciary and the rule of law must not be disregarded even in these trying times,” the association said in its statement on Monday.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 04, 2020, 06:35:07 PM
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Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 04, 2020, 07:13:13 PM
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Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 06, 2020, 11:52:32 AM
Maduro just minutes ago showed off a watch he says he received from Maradona. He says he's wearing it today for good luck.  :)
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on December 17, 2020, 11:17:44 AM
Venezuelan migrant believes wife, son among 23 drowned in attempt to reach Trinidad
LAUREL V WILLIAMS (T&T NEWSDAY).


Longing to see his family, a 51-year-old Venezuelan migrant was elated on December 6 when his wife and ten-year-old son boarded a boat from Guiria, Venezuela, to make the treacherous voyage to Trinidad.

He believes his wife, Christa Linda, 36, and their son, Christian Jose (last names withheld) were among the group of Venezuelans who died in a shipwreck off the coast of Guiria last week.

"I know Christa protected our son to the end! She was a good woman," the man said as he tried to hold back tears.

Venezuelan media reported that 21 of the 23 bodies recovered between Saturday evening and Wednesday afternoon have been identified. According to checks by Newsday, neither Christa Linda nor Christian Jose was among the 21 identified.

Newsday learned that relatives identified the victims through tattoos and DNA testing. Parts of some of the bodies are missing.

The search was ongoing up to Wednesday and the number of missing people remains unknown. Some media outlets estimated the final number of deaths at more than 40.

The migrant spoke to Newsday at a friend’s home in Couva on Wednesday. He recalled that he last spoke with his wife at about 8 pm on December 6.

After that he lost contact and, from what he heard, the boat arrived in Trinidad and Tobago waters the next day. He claims that, somehow, the passengers did not disembark and returned to Venezuela.

Unverified reports have since surfaced on social media suggesting that the T&T Coast Guard turned the group away, reports that government officials, including the Prime Minister and National Security Minister Stuart Young, have repeatedly denied.

On Wednesday, the migrant said he had planned for his wife and son to join him in Trinidad as he had made the island his home for the past year. He was looking forward to spending Christmas with them.

The man said he had registered with the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), the UN refugee agency in Port of Spain.

"I do odd work here (in Trinidad) and get very little pay. I now have to help my family with funeral expenses. I have no money. Christa Linda’s mother is looking after the children. I have to provide for my daughters.

"A proper funeral can cost up to US$300. The country (Venezuela) is in a crisis."

Looking at photos on his cell, the bereaved man said his son loved baseball and played for a local team in Guiria. The boy was the youngest of the couple’s four children.

He said his wife worked as a teacher at Escuela Alejandro Villanueva but, owing to the crisis, she decided to come to Trinidad for a better life.

"My little boy was buried yesterday (Tuesday) at La Salina cemetery. He was my only son. I could not even attend his funeral in person. This is a tough tragedy. The wooden box was closed because his condition was terrible. I watched the funeral on my phone and the (internet) connection was not good."

The tearful man continued, "My wife was a good mother and wife. She was a professional woman. She was not getting a lot of money teaching. Her body will be buried next to his."

Newsday contacted the RC bishop of Carupano, Jaime José Villarroel Rodríguez, who was unable to confirm whether Christa Linda or Christian Jose was among the dead. He said, earlier in the day, he had officiated at the funerals of seven victims of the shipwreck.

"One was a pregnant woman. There were three children, and the rest were males. I will confirm the list for you tomorrow (Thursday)," the bishop said in Spanish by phone.

Since March 22, T&T’s borders have been officially closed as a precautionary measure to curb the spread of covid19. Venezuelans continue to make treacherous journeys by boat, mainly from  Delta Amacuro State (Tucupita/Pedernales) and Sucre State (Guiria).

Local authorities have repatriated hundreds of Venezuelans who entered T&T illegally since last year’s historic amnesty that allowed Venezuelan migrants to register, live, work and access government and health services in T&T.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 17, 2020, 08:18:57 PM
So sad on both sides of the border.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on December 19, 2020, 03:34:44 PM
Human rights group: Let Caricom help Trinidad and Tobago with Venezuelan migrants
SEAN DOUGLAS (T&T NEWSDAY).


THE Caribbean Centre for Human Rights (CCHR), in a Facebook statement on Friday, urged T&T to ask its Caricom neighbours to help with the influx of Venezuelan migrants.

The CCHR said despite the economic crisis due to covid19, T&T still has a duty to protect human rights as set out in the T&T Constitution and laws, plus its obligations as a member of the Organisation of American States (OAS.)

“It is possible to secure our borders, protect our national security, mitigate the strain on our economy and preserve relationships with our international partners whilst honouring our obligations under international law," it pointed out. “Protecting vulnerable people fleeing a desperate humanitarian crisis does not have to be a zero-sum game.”

The centre said the Refuge Convention in its preamble says any state too burdened to provide asylum can seek international help.

“The Refugee Convention places expectations on its signatories to protect asylum seekers' and refugee rights. However it also offers avenues to a state that is struggling to honour its obligations under the convention and provide international protection.

“Based on this principle we urge the Government of T&T to seek the help of its Caricom brothers and sisters and the wider international community to manage the crisis.”

The centre said T&T sits next door to one of the worst human rights and humanitarian crises in modern history.

“Basic necessities are out of reach for many Venezuelans and the healthcare system is almost non-existent.

“The Venezuelan government continues to engage in systematic human rights atrocities against its own people as has been graphically detailed in the UN Human Rights Council report.”

The statement said Reuters had reported on the alleged victimisation of Venezuelan dissenters by "hate laws" aimed at stifling critics of the regime. The centre said after investigations, the International Criminal Court (ICC) has concluded a reasonable basis to prosecute Venezuelan government officials, including President Maduro, of crimes against humanity.

“T&T must do all that it can, taking into consideration the guidance and support that is at our disposal, to protect vulnerable persons seeking international protection, engage in efforts to eradicate the scourges of human trafficking and smuggling and save lives. All options have not been exhausted.

“And so we reiterate our call to the Government of T&T to consider exploring the option of a burden sharing agreement with other Caricom members and the wider international community.”

"To do so would create a proper response to the humanitarian crisis which seems too much for T&T to bear alone and let T&T show its commitment to honour its international obligations and protect human rights.

“We also call on Caricom leadership to recognise there needs to be a regional approach to this crisis and support the efforts of the T&T Government to prevent tragedies like the one that occurred last Sunday with the drownings of Venezuelan migrants.”

Deporting people back to the risky situation from which they fled is inhumane and breaches T&T’s obligations under international human rights law, the centre said.

“It is not the solution to deal with the humanitarian crisis. Criminalisation of the asylum process, where persons are deported based on irregular entry, places vulnerable persons at further risk.”

The protection of human rights must be the foundation of the Government's response in managing this crisis.

“And so as we commemorate International Migrants Day, we encourage the Government to reaffirm its commitment to allow safe, dignified and humane routes to seek protection.”

Contacted for comment Minister of Foreign and Caricom Affairs Dr Amery Browne said he could not comment without seeing the media release and referred Newsday to the Prime Minister's comments during a post-Cabinet media briefing on Thursday.

"These issues related to the migration matters, the OAS and it's treatment of the Venezuelan-Caricom-T&T situation will be much on the agenda during T&T's tenure as head of Caricom."

Newsday also contacted Prime Minister of St Vincent and the Grenadines and Caricom chairman Dr Ralph Gonsalves, but was told by his assistant that he was in a meeting at the time.

(With reporting by Shane Superville)

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on December 19, 2020, 07:05:55 PM
'Trini businessmen trafficking Venezuelans for bodies, organs'
Anna Ramdass (T&T EXPRESS).


Trinidadian businessmen are involved in the illegal trade of Venezuelans to this country for the sale of their bodies through prostitution and also sale of their organs.

This statement was made by president of the Latin Association of Trinidad and Tobago, David Edghill.

“We have a next issue which is the exploitation, human trafficking, organ harvesting, narco and ammunitions trafficking involving the migrants supported by citizens and businessmen of Trinidad and Tobago,” Edghill said yesterday at a news conference at the Anchorage, Chaguaramas.

Edghill said Venezuelans are entering the country illegally and rings of illegal activities are happening without consequence.

“The illegal migrants coming into Trinidad is due to the non interest of authorities in our country to put under the law those who are bringing in through our borders migrants illegally,” he said.

“We have human trafficking going on in Trinidad and nobody has been locked up,” he added.

The Latin Association, he said, is willing to work with authorities to make things better.

“The quality of people coming into Trinidad and Tobago is certainly not qualified professional workers; we are having bandits, narcos, vagabonds running away from Venezuela just to come in here...it is scary, you don’t know who is coming in that boat,” he said.

Edghill said things must be put in order to treat with the criminals and assist the economic migrants who may be in need.

He said there must be a process to know what they are here for.

“Are they here to kill? Are they here to sell drugs or are they here to work?” he asked, adding that if they are here to work then welcome them and a way will be found to assist.

He said there are economic migrants who are fleeing Venezuela because of the crisis and lack of food.

He said action must be taken against the boat captains and owners who are charging innocent families to come into Trinidad for work, food and housing.

Edghill said the asylum seeking and resettling process is not being properly done.

He said the United Nations has to involve itself in relocating these people.

Also speaking at the news conference, the Association’s communications director, Eve George said there is an additional issue with nationals wanting to return to Trinidad.

She referred to a Trinidad and Tobago citizen who has been stranded in Grenada since earlier this year.

The woman, who preferred not to be named said she is facing hardship in Grenada and claims she is being exploited in order to survive on that island.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on December 22, 2020, 05:14:00 PM
Rowley wants to know who got US money for aid
By Renuka Singh (T&T Guardian)

Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley is asking where did the money go when it comes to aid from the US to assist with Venezuelan migrants.

That’s in response to a statement issued over the weekend by the US Embassy in Port-of-Spain in which it defended its sanctions against Venezuela, saying it was against the Nicolas Maduro regime and not the people.

In the statement, the US Embassy also touched on the fact that the US is the single largest donor of humanitarian assistance for Venezuela including some $11 million to T&T for Venezuelans living in this country.

That comment from the Embassy came just after Prime Minister Rowley said that this country got no assistance from anybody to assist with the migrant situation and Venezuelans living in the country.

When asked about his thoughts on the US Embassy’s statement Prime Minister Rowley said: “just bear in mind that somebody or bodies are getting and have received $77 million for this purpose.

“It is certainly not the Government. It explains a lot,” he said.

Meanwhile, Foreign Affairs Minister Dr Amery Browne said it is “not unusual” for the US missions to make statements about their policy and perspectives.

The US Embassy explained said that the Venezuela sanctions programme was designed to “limit the Maduro regime’s sources of revenue and promote accountability for those who stand in the way of restoring democracy in Venezuela, while also ensuring the flow of humanitarian goods and services to the Venezuelan people”.

“With the incoming (President-elect Joe) Biden/ (Vice-President elect Kamala) Harris administration, and with Prime Minister (Dr Keith) Rowley becoming chairman of Caricom in January, the region can look forward to an even stronger focus on diplomatic solutions to the difficult challenges that exist,” Browne said.

“We anticipate 2021 to be a year of peace and progress even as the world confronts unprecedented threats such as the current pandemic, that demand a multi-lateral approach to nations,” he said.

The US Embassy also clarified that there are no restrictions on the importation of food and medicine but that Maduro used Venezuela’s revenues to buy Russian weaponry instead.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 23, 2020, 02:38:26 PM
Quote
“Acá en Güiria la cosa está fea y todo el mundo está buscando cómo irse. No tenemos ni gas para cocinar y todo es diez veces más caro acá. Como todos tenemos familia en Trinidad, ellos se iban a pasar las Navidades allá con una hermana. Mis dos sobrinos iban ahí y uno de ellos se iba a quedar, porque acá no hay nada que hacer”, relata a EL PAÍS la mujer, cuya hija también emigró hace dos años cuando se vio sin recursos para pagar una carrera universitaria. “¿Cómo van a acusar al señor Martínez si él mandó a toda su familia en ese bote?”, se pregunta López.

...

En este último naufragio, todos los que viajaban eran de Güiria, con familias establecidas en Trinidad y Tobago.

https://elpais.com/internacional/2020-12-23/los-32-ahogados-que-evidencian-el-drama-venezolano-en-la-guiria.html
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on December 24, 2020, 03:49:35 AM
The 32 drowned people of Güiria that show the Venezuelan drama
FLORANTONIA SINGER - Caracas (elpais.com)


The Venezuelan town buries more than thirty people on a journey to Trinidad and Tobago. There are still missing

Last Wednesday night, with the duel in tow, the inhabitants of Güiria, in the coastal Venezuelan state of Sucre, protested. The day before they had already held a vigil. The next day they called a march through the town, which has buried 32 people. They drowned in a new shipwreck in the waters between Sucre, in the northeast of the country, and Trinidad and Tobago, one of the migration corridors of the Caribbean whose traffic has intensified with the deterioration of the humanitarian crisis in Venezuela. Hunger has already driven 5.4 million people out of the country. Now, Güiria (40,000 inhabitants) cries and protests as he searches for his dead.

“Justice, justice!” Shouted a group of people in front of the headquarters of a military installation. It was a multiple demand. They asked for gasoline so that the fishermen could continue the search for the disappeared at sea, that what had happened be thoroughly investigated and more support from the Government to address the emergency. And they also demand from the Chavista leader, Nicolás Maduro, the freedom of Luis Martínez, the man who used to drive the ship that was shipwrecked, called My memory . He is the only one arrested in the case. Prosecutor Tarek William Saab accuses him of human trafficking and conspiracy.

Last Sunday the 6th, at 5:30 in the afternoon, it was not Luis Martínez —now under house arrest— who was at the helm of the ship. But eight of his relatives traveled there, including three children and a granddaughter, says Mary López, the fisherman's sister-in-law. “Here in Güiria things are ugly and everyone is looking for a way to leave. We don't even have gas to cook and everything is ten times more expensive here. Since we all have family in Trinidad, they were going to spend Christmas there with a sister. My two nephews used to go there and one of them was going to stay, because there is nothing to do here ”, tells EL PAÍS the woman, whose daughter also emigrated two years ago when she was unable to pay for a university degree. "How are they going to accuse Mr. Martínez if he sent his whole family in that boat?" Asks López.

There are several versions of what happened, a tragedy that has been reconstructed with imprecise data and information sailing from one coast to the other. And so far no survivors or witnesses have appeared who can clarify the doubts. The boat My memory left that Sunday,while Venezuela held a questioned parliamentary elections, with 19 people from the port of Güiria. On the way, these barges often pick up more passengers on the beaches before entering the open sea, that is, the precise number of passengers is not known. Some of the relatives who were waiting for them in Trinidad and Tobago say that the boat reached a beach on the Caribbean islands, where the migrants were first detained and then forced to return. According to this version, the shipwreck occurred during the voyage back to Venezuela.

In the last two years, the Trinidadian police have dealt with a heavy hand against Venezuelans. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) revealed this week that in November alone Trinidad and Tobago deported at least 200 people. Migrants are often detained and then deported in the same boat in which they arrived. That happened, for example, on November 22 with a group in which there were 16 children. And that was the hope of the relatives of the deceased of Güiria. That is, that they appeared at some point. "Everyone swore they were in prison, until the dead appeared," says Xioglimar Mata, who had neighbors and friends on the boat.

Seven days after setting sail, three bodies were found on a beach near Güiria. Throughout that day they found 11 others. The shipwreck was already a certainty. Then, five more corpses washed ashore; then nine more, and on Thursday afternoon, another. Between Friday and Saturday, three more. A total of 32 bodies buried last week. Two have not been identified yet, as they await the results of DNA tests. At least a dozen people are still missing. Another boat called My Refuge left that same night on December 6 with another group. In Güiria, some point out that the passengers of both rafts were returned from Trinidad and Tobago in a single ship, despite the excess of passengers, and with little fuel, which caused it to wreck. Others believe that those who traveled in one of the boats and are listed as missing are being held on the islands. But the Trinidadian authorities have denied that any of those ships reached their lands.

No wake

The Venezuelan Prosecutor's Office affirms that the ship sank halfway, in the country's waters, and has also issued an arrest warrant for Mary López's two nephews, who are still missing. A commission of forensic doctors has been installed since Monday at the Güiria Coast Guard dock. In a tent they work on the analysis of the bodies. No one has had a wake. Every family has prayed for them at home.

Among the last corpses that the sea has brought, relatives say, some have appeared that are mutilated and others with a lower degree of decomposition than the first, which has unleashed speculation about the times of the shipwreck. Five days after the discovery of the first bodies, a police helicopter joined the search operation, which has been left in the hands of the fishermen themselves. “That night the sea was lonely because almost no one goes fishing because of the lack of gasoline. If a fisherman had been able to go out, he might have found them, ”adds López. Meanwhile, the family members only have a cry of pain, which is mixed with the protest.

"We feel without support"

Since 2019 there have been 114 missing persons from five boats that left the coasts of Sucre and Nueva Esparta, in the northeast of Venezuela, and Falcón, in the northwest, according to Johnny Romero, spokesman for an organization that groups together the families of the victims . In those cases, not as many bodies were recovered and the disappeared came from different areas of the country. His relatives denounce trafficking networks that allegedly operate in complicity with officials. In this last shipwreck, all those who traveled were from Güiria, with families established in Trinidad and Tobago. “We are very saddened by what happened and because we feel without support. What Trinidad does is harassment, ”says Anyelith Sanvicente, who is still waiting for a cousin of hers who is among the missing travelers to appear alive.

(https://imagenes.elpais.com/resizer/EvcWtlFKlX-gcAnIJbEteuD8YDA=/1500x0/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/prisa/O25EE6HFO2JAGFBGI5NMOEMCYI.jpg)
A man in a cemetery where a shipwreck victim was buried in Trinidad and Tobago. YURI CORTEZ / AFP

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on December 28, 2020, 02:13:46 PM
Venezuelan drownings: 41 in a boat for eight
SEAN DOUGLAS (T&T NEWSDAY).


THIRTY ONE Venezuelans drowned off the coast of Guiria, Sucre after being crammed into a small boat designed for eight people, which capsized on December 6. The boat, My Memory, did not have proper safety equipment yet set out in rough seas with waves two to three metres high, amid bad weather including strong northwesterly tradewinds.

These were the findings of an investigation announced by Venezuelan Minister of Internal Relations (MRI), Admiral-in-Chief Carmen Meléndez, as reported in a Venezuelan economics magazine, Banca y Negocios (Banking and Business.) The online publication on Friday carried an article headlined – MRI determines causes of Güiria tragedy and rejects 'political manipulation' that affects relations with Trinidad.

The article revealed that on top of those who had drowned the boat had been carrying in total some 41 people. It lamented, "The causes of the maritime accident in which more than 30 Venezuelan migrants died en route to Trinidad and Tobago, were due to the overloading of the boat and that the passengers were sailing without the minimum security (safety) conditions, in the midst of strong waves."

The article said it provided the Venezuelan government's summary of the police and forensic investigations undertaken so as to explain a tragedy which had grieved not just the people of Guiria, but all Venezuela. It said the incident revealed in the extreme, the daily tragedy experienced by millions of Venezuelans, forced to leave the country by the economic and social crisis.

The article said the MRI head said the 41 travellers were going to "spend the Christmas holidays with their families and others were going to work in previously arranged positions." The story said the MRI did not state the travellers' conditions of immigration, in light of recent deportations.

"The main cause of the wreck was the overloading of the fiberglass rock-type vessel, which, having a capacity for eight people and a maximum weight of two tonnes, was carrying 41 people and weighing approximately four tonnes," Meléndez said.

"Additionally, they did not have life jackets or the necessary implements for navigation."

She said the trip was made in the middle of waves between two to three metres high.

"It is important to point out that the boat left an illegal place and at night, with the intention of evading the maritime controls established by the security agencies of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela," she added.

Meléndez said the Venezuelan government has since strengthened maritime controls so that this type of event does not repeat itself. Further, that government has promised comprehensive social assistance for local families, to support them in their pain over their irreparable loss in this regrettable accident. The Venezuelan government sympathised with the communities where the victims had lived, and pledged its solidarity to the people of Guiria.

The minister criticised an alleged political manipulation by extremist elements which, without considering the pain of the Venezuelan families which had lost loved ones, had used the image and memory of the deceased to affect the stability of the country and the relations between the governments of Venezuela and T&T.

T&T's prime minister Dr Rowley has accused Venezuelan and local opposition of politicising the drownings, saying his government did the best it could to help migrants legally through the 2019 registration exercise which allowed an estimated 16,000 to work. Dr Rowley also recently announced the legal migrants would have a six-month extension of the amnesty. He urged Venezuelans in their homeland to not risk their lives by trying to sail to Trinidad.

On Christmas Day, National Security Minister Stuart Young again warned that transporting migrants was illegal and qualified as human trafficking.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 29, 2020, 08:37:50 AM
This scenario plays out on any given day, on any location on the planet, on which people's expectations of how they should live coincide with any floating vessel and a body of water on the other side of a river bank or sea shore that gives them HOPE.

And there's the hope that 40 human beings getting into a vessel designed for fewer than 10 human beings won't sink.

When Trinidad and Tobago totally absorbs the no-brainer decisions that accompany not living with hope, maybe the statements made in public office will be tweaked ... especially by those with ambitions to become Prime Minister.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 29, 2020, 08:18:34 PM
This scenario plays out on any given day, on any location on the planet, on which people's expectations of how they should live coincide with any floating vessel and a body of water on the other side of a river bank or sea shore that gives them HOPE.

And there's the hope that 40 human beings getting into a vessel designed for fewer than 10 human beings won't sink.

When Trinidad and Tobago totally absorbs the no-brainer decisions that accompany not living with hope, maybe the statements made in public office will be tweaked ... especially by those with ambitions to become Prime Minister.

So are You blaming Rowley and Young ?
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on December 29, 2020, 08:53:52 PM
This scenario plays out on any given day, on any location on the planet, on which people's expectations of how they should live coincide with any floating vessel and a body of water on the other side of a river bank or sea shore that gives them HOPE.

And there's the hope that 40 human beings getting into a vessel designed for fewer than 10 human beings won't sink.

When Trinidad and Tobago totally absorbs the no-brainer decisions that accompany not living with hope, maybe the statements made in public office will be tweaked ... especially by those with ambitions to become Prime Minister.

So are You blaming Rowley and Young ?

Not "blaming", but I think the junior partner's stewardship of the matter will attach to the legacy of the senior partner. On the face of it, one of the partners has a longer political future than the other. As such, the legacy will survive its scars, but the stewardship has a longer shelf life for scrutiny. Unless the approach preferred is to treat with the matter as the Hungarians do.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 30, 2020, 12:55:00 AM
This scenario plays out on any given day, on any location on the planet, on which people's expectations of how they should live coincide with any floating vessel and a body of water on the other side of a river bank or sea shore that gives them HOPE.

And there's the hope that 40 human beings getting into a vessel designed for fewer than 10 human beings won't sink.

When Trinidad and Tobago totally absorbs the no-brainer decisions that accompany not living with hope, maybe the statements made in public office will be tweaked ... especially by those with ambitions to become Prime Minister.

So are You blaming Rowley and Young ?

Not "blaming", but I think the junior partner's stewardship of the matter will attach to the legacy of the senior partner. On the face of it, one of the partners has a longer political future than the other. As such, the legacy will survive its scars, but the stewardship has a longer shelf life for scrutiny. Unless the approach preferred is to treat with the matter as the Hungarians do.



Well If Young has aspiration to remain in politics and as you suggesting has ambition to be PM, he should think about resolving the present situation. Not thinking that if I do this or that, it will hurt my political future. What I would like to see done is that they secure the southern  western borders. I think we should help the Ven. but we definitely need to work on issue in TT, especially east of the dry to lady young road.

This is a powder keg that could explode again. I see local Trinis being ruthless. They complaining about all the Ven. coming in. But there is an entity who welcomes there prescence. Cheap labours. The locals who would hold out for a higher wages are in for a rude awaking.  And then the opportunity to use vulnerable women for the sex business.  There are Trinis who are knowingly breaking the laws to make money of the current situation. Taxi drivers rendez-vous in spots where illegals come and transport them to "safe" house. Not to forget the illegal guns and heavy drugs that are comin in with these activities.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: ABTrini on December 30, 2020, 12:57:58 PM
This scenario plays out on any given day, on any location on the planet, on which people's expectations of how they should live coincide with any floating vessel and a body of water on the other side of a river bank or sea shore that gives them HOPE.

And there's the hope that 40 human beings getting into a vessel designed for fewer than 10 human beings won't sink.

When Trinidad and Tobago totally absorbs the no-brainer decisions that accompany not living with hope, maybe the statements made in public office will be tweaked ... especially by those with ambitions to become Prime Minister.

So are You blaming Rowley and Young ?

Not "blaming", but I think the junior partner's stewardship of the matter will attach to the legacy of the senior partner. On the face of it, one of the partners has a longer political future than the other. As such, the legacy will survive its scars, but the stewardship has a longer shelf life for scrutiny. Unless the approach preferred is to treat with the matter as the Hungarians do.



Well If Young has aspiration to remain in politics and as you suggesting has ambition to be PM, he should think about resolving the present situation. Not thinking that if I do this or that, it will hurt my political future. What I would like to see done is that they secure the southern  western borders. I think we should help the Ven. but we definitely need to work on issue in TT, especially east of the dry to lady young road.

This is a powder keg that could explode again. I see local Trinis being ruthless. They complaining about all the Ven. coming in. But there is an entity who welcomes there prescence. Cheap labours. The locals who would hold out for a higher wages are in for a rude awaking.  And then the opportunity to use vulnerable women for the sex business.  There are Trinis who are knowingly breaking the laws to make money of the current situation. Taxi drivers rendez-vous in spots where illegals come and transport them to "safe" house. Not to forget the illegal guns and heavy drugs that are comin in with these activities.

The real tragedy is that the international community has not taken a stronger stance aganice alleged  I'll treatment by the Venezuela government against its citizens. This mass exodus  of displaced and those fleeing from alleged horrid conditions is a human tragedy.

Unlike many Trinidad and Tobago residents who migrated to Venezuela to find jobs- or many island brethren who migrated to our shores for a better life.

One of the issues is our economy and infrastructure is not in place to handle the mass exodus arriving on our shores - especially during the COVID crisis.

Where is the UNrole in this? How can the UN mobilize NGO's to provide mobile camps, mobile health facilities and establish a refugeee facility to help process and stabilize the processing?

The government under these circumstances is not the be all and end all.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Deeks on December 30, 2020, 02:57:53 PM
This scenario plays out on any given day, on any location on the planet, on which people's expectations of how they should live coincide with any floating vessel and a body of water on the other side of a river bank or sea shore that gives them HOPE.

And there's the hope that 40 human beings getting into a vessel designed for fewer than 10 human beings won't sink.

When Trinidad and Tobago totally absorbs the no-brainer decisions that accompany not living with hope, maybe the statements made in public office will be tweaked ... especially by those with ambitions to become Prime Minister.

So are You blaming Rowley and Young ?

Not "blaming", but I think the junior partner's stewardship of the matter will attach to the legacy of the senior partner. On the face of it, one of the partners has a longer political future than the other. As such, the legacy will survive its scars, but the stewardship has a longer shelf life for scrutiny. Unless the approach preferred is to treat with the matter as the Hungarians do.



Well If Young has aspiration to remain in politics and as you suggesting has ambition to be PM, he should think about resolving the present situation. Not thinking that if I do this or that, it will hurt my political future. What I would like to see done is that they secure the southern  western borders. I think we should help the Ven. but we definitely need to work on issue in TT, especially east of the dry to lady young road.

This is a powder keg that could explode again. I see local Trinis being ruthless. They complaining about all the Ven. coming in. But there is an entity who welcomes there prescence. Cheap labours. The locals who would hold out for a higher wages are in for a rude awaking.  And then the opportunity to use vulnerable women for the sex business.  There are Trinis who are knowingly breaking the laws to make money of the current situation. Taxi drivers rendez-vous in spots where illegals come and transport them to "safe" house. Not to forget the illegal guns and heavy drugs that are comin in with these activities.

The real tragedy is that the international community has not taken a stronger stance aganice alleged  I'll treatment by the Venezuela government against its citizens. This mass exodus  of displaced and those fleeing from alleged horrid conditions is a human tragedy.

Unlike many Trinidad and Tobago residents who migrated to Venezuela to find jobs- or many island brethren who migrated to our shores for a better life.

One of the issues is our economy and infrastructure is not in place to handle the mass exodus arriving on our shores - especially during the COVID crisis.

Where is the UNrole in this? How can the UN mobilize NGO's to provide mobile camps, mobile health facilities and establish a refugeee facility to help process and stabilize the processing?

The government under these circumstances is not the be all and end all.


I think the UN and the US are willing to assist or are assisting. But Rowley and Young do not want to be dictated by the conditions of getting relief money. They don't want that influx to be so huge that it become unmanageable,  and when is time for them to return, they don't want to. TT right now is between a rock and a hard place.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: ABTrini on January 01, 2021, 05:09:05 PM
This scenario plays out on any given day, on any location on the planet, on which people's expectations of how they should live coincide with any floating vessel and a body of water on the other side of a river bank or sea shore that gives them HOPE.

And there's the hope that 40 human beings getting into a vessel designed for fewer than 10 human beings won't sink.

When Trinidad and Tobago totally absorbs the no-brainer decisions that accompany not living with hope, maybe the statements made in public office will be tweaked ... especially by those with ambitions to become Prime Minister.

So are You blaming Rowley and Young ?

Not "blaming", but I think the junior partner's stewardship of the matter will attach to the legacy of the senior partner. On the face of it, one of the partners has a longer political future than the other. As such, the legacy will survive its scars, but the stewardship has a longer shelf life for scrutiny. Unless the approach preferred is to treat with the matter as the Hungarians do.



Well If Young has aspiration to remain in politics and as you suggesting has ambition to be PM, he should think about resolving the present situation. Not thinking that if I do this or that, it will hurt my political future. What I would like to see done is that they secure the southern  western borders. I think we should help the Ven. but we definitely need to work on issue in TT, especially east of the dry to lady young road.

This is a powder keg that could explode again. I see local Trinis being ruthless. They complaining about all the Ven. coming in. But there is an entity who welcomes there prescence. Cheap labours. The locals who would hold out for a higher wages are in for a rude awaking.  And then the opportunity to use vulnerable women for the sex business.  There are Trinis who are knowingly breaking the laws to make money of the current situation. Taxi drivers rendez-vous in spots where illegals come and transport them to "safe" house. Not to forget the illegal guns and heavy drugs that are comin in with these activities.


The real tragedy is that the international community has not taken a stronger stance aganice alleged  I'll treatment by the Venezuela government against its citizens. This mass exodus  of displaced and those fleeing from alleged horrid conditions is a human tragedy.

Unlike many Trinidad and Tobago residents who migrated to Venezuela to find jobs- or many island brethren who migrated to our shores for a better life.

One of the issues is our economy and infrastructure is not in place to handle the mass exodus arriving on our shores - especially during the COVID crisis.

Where is the UNrole in this? How can the UN mobilize NGO's to provide mobile camps, mobile health facilities and establish a refugeee facility to help process and stabilize the processing?

The government under these circumstances is not the be all and end all.


I think the UN and the US are willing to assist or are assisting. But Rowley and Young do not want to be dictated by the conditions of getting relief money. They don't want that influx to be so huge that it become unmanageable,  and when is time for them to return, they don't want to. TT right now is between a rock and a hard place.

It is erroneous to make assertions without facts - to identify two individuals as barriers or hindering in this crisis is wanton scapegoating . What is occurring  at such a volume and in masses is beyond our  country's capacity  to cope -
This issue is an international issues and it begs the question where is the UN in enacting their mission insituations like this.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on January 13, 2021, 01:59:12 AM
PM sides with Guyana in Venezuela dispute
By Gail Alexander (T&T Guardian).


Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley has returned to work and has immediately addressed regional issues, including defending Guyana against Venezuela on a land issue, as chairman of Caricom.

Yesterday was his first day of duties following cardiac problems and angioplasty over the weekend.

Caricom under his chairmanship took issue with Venezuela’s position against Guyana on a maritime border issue.

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro’s socialist administration has set alarm bells ringing by rejecting a recent jurisdictional ruling by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) concerning his country’s territorial claims over oil-rich neighbour Guyana.

Maduro issued a new decree last week claiming sovereignty over areas claimed by Guyana, while Venezuela’s national assembly established a special committee for the defence of disputed territory.

The claim covers more than half of Guyana’s land mass and much of Guyana’s Atlantic maritime territory, including most of the prolific ExxonMobil-operated Stabroek block, where a raft of huge oil discoveries have been unearthed in recent years.

Guyana’s modern argument for ICJ jurisdiction was based on the 1966 Geneva Agreement — signed by the UK, Venezuela and colonial British Guiana — which stipulates that the parties will agree to find a practical, peaceful and satisfactory solution to the dispute.

Guyana has argued, successfully, that the Geneva Agreement also establishes jurisdiction for an ICJ ruling, and diplomats now expect that ruling to come within a timeframe of two to four years.

Anxious to stave off unrest in a country where living standards have plummeted, Maduro has seized on the jurisdictional ruling in an attempt to galvanise popular support.

“It is ours! It belongs to the Venezuelans and we are going to retake it in peace and with national unity,” Maduro said of the Essequibo territories.

Guyana’s President Irfaan Ali called Maduro’s actions and words “deeply disturbing” and argued that any attempt to “unilaterally” fix boundaries between the two countries would be a legal nullity in the eyes of international law.

The Caricom statement said the community was deeply disappointed and concerned “at the decree and subsequent statements by Venezuela with respect to that country’s border controversy with Guyana, including intimations of the creation of a strategic area of national development called ‘Territory for the Development of the Atlantic Façade’”.

It said Caricom was “in full support of the judicial process underway at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) which is intended to bring a peaceful and definitive end to the long-standing controversy between the two countries.

“CARICOM reiterates in the strongest possible terms, its firm and unswerving support for the maintenance and preservation of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Guyana. CARICOM firmly repudiates any acts of aggression by Venezuela against Guyana.”

Browne said it was a “strong, very timely statement of solidarity which is fully consistent with the established Caricom position on how the border dispute should be properly treated and resolved at the ICJ.”

“As chair of this special emergency meeting, the Prime Minister led the drafting and finalisation of the statement as one of his first official functions as current Caricom chairman,” Browne added.

Canada has also expressed concern over Venezuela’s claim.

In a statement, Ottawa said “Venezuela’s recent claim that it has sovereignty over the area adjacent to Guyana’s Essequibo coast is concerning. The decision is in the hands of the International Court of Justice and this judicial process must be respected.”

The United States on Sunday also weighed in on the matter. It declared support for the International Court of Justice’s (ICJ) ruling that it has jurisdiction to hear Guyana’s case for a juridical settlement of the long-running border controversy with Venezuela.

Dealing with Venezuela is among several issues that remain on Caricom’s agenda.

Trinidad and Tobago did not vote at a recent meeting of the Organisation of American States (OAS) which condemned the recent Venezuelan elections.

Recently Jamaica’s Opposition took its government to task for participating in the OAS vote. That Opposition called on Prime Minister Andrew Holness to explain the breaking of respected traditions at the OAS Council.

It was deemed a reversal of Jamaica’s longstanding foreign policy commitments which broke Jamaica’s image regionally and internationally.

Jamaica’s Opposition stated handling of the circumstances between T&T and Venezuela was disturbing and Jamaica, which chaired the OAS Council, could have handled the situation more responsibly.

Their Opposition said Jamaica and two other states, “irresponsibly and in an unprecedented” way allowed Venezuelan Opposition supporters to attack T&T’s Government and other Caricom states.

Jamaica’s Opposition said their Government had forfeited Jamaica’s role as a fair honest broker and seemed intent on isolating regional sister nations which sought alternatives to US President Donald Trump’s agenda and Venezuela’s crisis.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 22, 2021, 02:26:01 AM
Venezuelan police officer builds better life for family in Trinidad
KALIFA SARAH CLYNE (T&T NEWSDAY).


When Venezuelan migrant Darilis Martinez, 27, left her country she was working as a police officer in Tucupita. She had also recently completed a university degree in systems engineering at la Universidad Nacional Experimental de las Fuerzas Armadas in Tucupita.

In 2019, she paid a boat captain US$300 to transport her and her then six-year-old daughter to Trinidad, a desperate attempt to search for a life that seemed better than the hunger, unemployment and illness that surrounded her in Tucupita.

The decision was not an easy one to make. She was a police officer. She knew she was breaking the law.

She also knew the monthly food quota she was allowed was not enough for her aged parents as well as her husband, daughter and herself. Her father had cardiac issues and could not work and though healthy, she couldn't work either. There were no jobs.

In her village, people talked about escaping to Trinidad. Some, who had already left, sent food and money back to relatives. In Martinez' mind, Venezuela presented an impossible situation and Trinidad showed possibility.

She discussed it with her husband and they decided that they would move to Trinidad in order to make a better life and better care for their elderly relatives.

The trip to Trinidad from Venezuela takes approximately three hours by boat but avoiding detection by authorities adds hours to the trip and Martinez left Venezuela at 2 pm and arrived in Trinidad at 4 am. She was nervous, after hearing stories about the rough waters and people becoming ill. For Martinez, the trip was calm as she clung to her daughter with one hand and a small bag, containing two pairs of shoes and a shirt for each of them, with the other.

She does not know where she landed in Trinidad, but the majority of Venezuelans who enter Trinidad and Tobago illegally, do so through Cedros and other parts of the southwestern peninsula, jumping from boats and running toward empty shorelines while captains make a hasty retreat.

Her husband, Xavier Garcia, made the trip 20 days later.

When the Government announced that they would register Venezuelans and allow them to stay in the country for a period of time, Martinez and her family went on the first day at 3 am, they spent the night in Port of Spain, eating food given to them by local volunteers, and finished the process at 5 pm the next day.

A few days after entering Trinidad, Martinez took her daughter with her to a construction site in Cunupia, where a friend told her she could find work. While her daughter played on her mobile phone, Martinez moved cement blocks around a construction yard.

"I couldn't do it anymore after three days. At the end of the third day my boss said see you tomorrow and I said no. It was just too painful," Martinez said.

Her boss was kind and referred her to a friend who needed painters. There, she got paid $160 per day and her new job provided lunch.

After that job ended, she got a job cleaning a boat in Port of Spain before getting another job cleaning a bar in Arima. She would go to work at the bar at 8 pm and leave at 4 am, then she would wake up to go to work at 8 am, selling laundry detergent in a carpark near a supermarket.

Soon she started cleaning houses on weekends so they could have enough money to pay rent and still send food for their relatives in Venezuela.

Her husband got a job at a food truck, working with a friend he knew from Venezuela.

Martinez worked job after job until she, her husband and his friend Eduardo Rivas decided to open their own business. They decided on a food truck near where they lived in Arima.

They saved for months until they could pay someone to construct the food truck. When it was finished, they called it Davier's Grill, after her son who was born in Trinidad six months ago.

When they opened on November 30, it represented a new beginning for them.

About a week later, two men, one with a gun, the other with a knife robbed them an undisclosed sum of cash.

While the ordeal was scary for them, Martinez said they are still committed to running the business.

"I have to help my parents in Venezuela. I work and I send money and food for them. I am their only child and they depend on me completely," Martinez said.

Once per week, a friend in Venezuela goes to her parents house so they can video chat. Martinez said while she is happy for the opportunities in Trinidad, she thinks about the day she can be with her parents again.

"I am happy in Trinidad but I miss my family."

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Darilis Martinez stands in front of the food truck Davier's Grill in Arima. Photo by Kalifa Sarah Clyne

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Darilis Martinez and her son Davier. The food truck Davier's Grill is named after her son who was born six months ago. Photo by Kalifa Sarah Clyne

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Eduardo Rivas, who runs Davier's Grill with his friends Darilis Martinez and Xavier Garcia, prepares a hot dog for a customer. -

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on February 22, 2021, 06:46:38 AM
Yuh just knew that article would include an attack on their business.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on February 22, 2021, 05:59:59 PM
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In 2019, she paid a boat captain US$300 to transport her and her then six-year-old daughter to Trinidad, a desperate attempt to search for a life that seemed better than the hunger, unemployment and illness that surrounded her in Tucupita.

Bargain pricing.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 26, 2021, 01:31:21 AM
Venezuelans stranded: Govt denies sanctioned repatriation aircraft
By Akash Samaroo (T&T Guardian).


Scores of Venezuelan nationals were stranded at the Piarco International Airport last night after a repatriation flight that was due to arrive in T&T from Venezuela was blocked from coming.

The aircraft belonged to Conviasa, a Venezuelan State airline that has been sanctioned by the United States.

The 97 Venezuelan nationals were forced to sleep at the airport as a result.

“What is the problem? Ninety-seven people are here, people with cancer, elderly people, children. They sold all their things and now people have nowhere to go,” said one of the few English-speaking members of the group at the airport.

The group said that for months they had been liaising with this country’s National Security Ministry to return home.

“(Minister of National Security) Stuart (Young) say yes, everything is in order. Why use today, the day the flight was supposed to go to Venezuela to say we can’t go?” another English-speaking Venezuelan national shouted.

A statement by the Ministry of National Security said that the Government of Venezuela had made the request for the repatriation flight and that preliminary approval was granted by the National Security Ministry as the flight was seen as a humanitarian effort.

The statement said when the details were provided by the Venezuelan Government it was discovered that the airline, Consorcio Venezolano de Industrias Aeronáuticas y Servicios Aéreos (Conviasa), was under a US sanction.

“Unfortunately in those circumstances, the Ministry of National Security could not grant approval for the aircraft to come to Trinidad and Tobago,” the release said.

The ministry said the request from Venezuela came in the “past week.”

However, the Venezuelan nationals claim the ministry knew that it was a Conviasa flight all along.

“The Government always said it was a Conviasa flight. All flights to Venezuela is Conviasa.”

The National Security Ministry said it has reached out to the US Embassy in Port-of-Spain “to seek guidance”.

The ministry said it will work with the Ministry of Foreign and Caricom Affairs “with respect to the possibility of a future repatriation exercise by the Venezuelan Government”.

One Venezuelan national has claimed that many in the group gave up their apartments and jobs in anticipation of returning home and that some even sold their mobile phones to pay for their PCR COVID-19 tests.

“I am now in the street. I am pregnant with two kids I gave up my job and now I don’t know what to do, what is being put in place for us?”

US sanction against Conviasa

On February 7, 2020, the US Department of Treasury issued the following statement regarding the sanction against Venezuela’s State airline.

“The US Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) today identified the Venezuelan state-owned airline Consorcio Venezolano de Industrias Aeronauticas y Servicios Aereos, S.A. (Conviasa) as subject to sanctions as part of the Government of Venezuela, pursuant to Executive Order (E.O.) 13884.

Today’s action also identifies the Conviasa fleet of aircraft as blocked property of the Government of Venezuela pursuant to E.O. 13884. Conviasa and its fleet have been blocked since the issuance of E.O. 13884 of August 5, 2019, and today they have been added to the OFAC’s Specially Designated Nationals List to ensure strengthened compliance with US sanctions.

“The illegitimate Maduro regime relies on the Venezuelan state-owned airline Conviasa to shuttle corrupt regime officials around the world to fuel support for its anti-democratic efforts,” said Secretary Steven T. Mnuchin.

“The Trump Administration will not allow Maduro and his proxies to continue stealing from the Venezuelan people and abusing state-owned assets to advance their own corrupt and destabilising activities.”

Conviasa operates as a commercial airline based in Caracas, Venezuela, flying both domestic routes as well as providing service to select international locations.

This action does not prevent the ability of the Venezuelan people to travel, as they can continue to travel on various other carriers not subject to OFAC sanctions. Rather, this action is intended to curtail the Maduro regime’s misuse of the airline.

For instance, the Maduro regime has commandeered Conviasa’s aircraft to promote its own political agenda, including shuttling regime officials to countries such as North Korea, Cuba, and Iran.”

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US Embassy: We're willing to assist humanitarian effort to get Venezuelans home
SEAN DOUGLAS (T&T NEWSDAY).


After a request from the National Security Ministry for guidance on how to proceed after dozens of Venezuelans waiting for a flight home were stranded at Piarco Airport, the United States Embassy has said it is willing to assist in the repatriation.

The flight was refused permission to land on Thursday because the plane had sanctioned by the US.

In a statement, the ministry said, “Within the past week the Venezuelan Government made a request of the Government of Trinidad and Tobago to facilitate their provision of a repatriation flight from Trinidad to Venezuela. This request was made via the normal diplomatic channels to the Ministry of Foreign and Caricom Affairs.”

The Ministry of National Security granted preliminary approval for this repatriation as a humanitarian effort by the Government of Venezuela. “All arrangements were made by Venezuela.”

But when details were provided of the aircraft that the Venezuelan Government was proposing to use to repatriate about 100 Venezuelans, it was discovered that the aircraft was amongst those sanctioned by the US. So, the ministry said, “Unfortunately in those circumstances, the Ministry of National Security could not grant approval for the aircraft to come to T&T.

It said it had contacted  the US Embassy in Port of Spain for guidance "and will work with the Ministry of Foreign and Caricom Affairs, with respect to the possibility of a future repatriation exercise by the Venezuelan Government.”

Minister of Foreign Affairs Dr Amery Browne took time out from attending the Caricom leaders’ intersessional meeting to reply by text message to Newsday’s queries, ahead of the Ministry of National Security statement.

Browne wrote, “The flight was deemed not to be possible as planned by the Venezuelan authorities, as the aircraft they were seeking to use is one that is on a sanctioned list.”

Asked for details of the Venezuelans' welfare as they awaited an approved plane, Browne replied, “The Embassy of Venezuela in Port of Spain is fully informed and engaged in resolving the situation and addressing the immediate needs of their citizens.

“It is anticipated that suitable arrangements would be put in place in the near future to transport the prospective passengers via an aircraft that is not sanctioned.”

Newsday could not contact Minister of National Security Stuart Young, but he forwarded his ministry’s statement.

The US Embassy in a texted response to questions sent by Newsday, said it was aware of the ministry's request concerning the use of a sanctioned aircraft for a repatriation flight.

It said, "US sanctions targeting (Venezuelan President Nicolas) Maduro, his allies, and those who support them are designed to permit the continued provision of assistance to the Venezuelan people. The US maintains broad exemptions and authorisations that allow for the provision of humanitarian assistance, including related to repatriation.

"US Embassy, Port of Spain, will work closely with the ministry to provide any necessary information to facilitate the safe and lawful repatriation of Venezuelans."

Renewed calls for Young to go over Venezuelan plane faux pas
YVONNE WEBB (T&T NEWSDAY).


Barataria/ San Juan MP Saddam Hosein has said the incompetence of National Security Minister Stuart Young, in having a US-sanctioned plane involved in repatriating Venezuelans, is a national embarrassment and he must go.

On the United National Congress (UNC) Pavement Report on Thursday night, Hosein asked how Young could have missed that sensitive and important detail in what he called Young’s arrangements to have approximately 100 Venezuelans repatriated earlier in the day.

He read from a National Security release which said the Venezuelan Government had asked the Trinidad and Tobago Government to facilitate its repatriation flight from Trinidad to Venezuela some time before.

In the release Young said the request was made via the normal diplomatic channels to the Ministry of Foreign and Caricom Affairs and his ministry granted preliminary approval, as it was seen as a humanitarian effort by the Venezuelan Government.

All the arrangements were made by Venezuela but the National Security Ministry said when the details of the proposed flight were provided, it was discovered that the airline was amongst those sanctioned by the US.

The aircraft was therefore denied permission to land at Piarco. The TT Government has since contacted the US Embassy in Port of Spain for guidance.

“Is the blind leading the blind?” Hosein asked. “How embarrassing! The incompetence is glaring. Stuart Young, you must go.”

The UNC recently moved a no-confidence motion against Young in Parliament, which failed.

Hosein also predicted “a collapse and crisis at the Immigration Department at the airport, all because of one man called Stuart Young.”

He referred to nine immigration officers at the Piarco Airport testing positive for covid19, which has resulted in shifts being reduced from five to two.

He again cast blame on Young for the shortage of proper personal protective equipment (PPE) for these officers.

He referred to an internal memo which said the airport authority was yet to supply a schedule for cleaning for the regular supply of PPE. It said the sanitising was done and misting machines used approximately 30 minutes after the change of the 6 am and 2 pm shifts, and as of February 24, there were no surgical masks.

“There were 25 gowns in the last three months, three packs of surgical masks and no protective screens – for 90 members of staff.

“They have to go to private entities to solicit sanitisers, and only oversized gloves were provided for them.

“Imagine, they (the Government)withdrew $6.3 billion from the Heritage and Stabilisation Fund (HSF) and not one surgical mask for the Immigration.

“This man has put the lives of immigration officers at risk,” Hosein said.

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Venezuelan nationals wait at the check-in area at the Piarco International Airport after the repatriation flight was stopped yesterday.

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Some of the Venezuelan nationals and members of the media at the Piarco International Airport.

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Venezuelan nationals who were to return home yesterday, listen to information about their flight which was cancelled.

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Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on February 26, 2021, 09:01:34 AM
Foreseeable problem.
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 26, 2021, 08:02:31 PM
Venezuelans repatriated on second attempt as aircraft allowed to land in Trinidad
GREVIC ALVARADO (T&T NEWSDAY).


Finally 96 Venezuelans who were refugees in T&T, returned to their country on Friday on a repatriation flight.

At 7.30 pm yesterday, the plane of the Venezuelan state airline Conviasa took off from the Piarco International Airport after getting permission to land in Trinidad.

Ultimately, 82 adults and 14 children returned to Venezuela, the vast majority selected by officials from the Venezuelan Embassy in T&T according to their degree of vulnerability.

The repatriation flight was organised by the Venezuelan government and should have left on Thursday afternoon to fly to Caracas, but the T&T government denied the Conviasa plane permission to land.

A release from the Ministry of National Security on Thursday confirmed that permission for the Venezuelan aircraft to land in T&T had been denied as the airline had been sanctioned by the United States.

The release said, "The Ministry of National Security has reached out to the US Embassy in Port of Spain to seek guidance and will work with the Ministry of Foreign and Caricom Affairs, with respect to the possibility of a future repatriation exercise by the Venezuelan Government."

United States Embassy, in its own release later Thursday, said it was willing to assist in the repatriation.

"US Embassy, Port of Spain, will work closely with the ministry to provide any necessary information to facilitate the safe and lawful repatriation of Venezuelans."

On Friday morning, the Venezuelan Embassy confirmed that the flight had received the relevant authorisation from T&T authorities.

Officials from the embassy, in turn, called each of the approved passengers to inform them of the development.

Some of the passengers had already returned to the airport with their family and friends to awaiting news of the rescheduling of the trip.

Twenty others, including a pregnant woman and three children registered for the trip, had slept at the airport on Thursday night hoping the flight would be rescheduled.

The group was given empanadas for dinner by staff from the Venezuelan Embassy.

"We slept in the chairs in the counters area and the airport security guards were attentive to us," said Carlos Benitez, one of the travellers.

At around 3 pm on Friday, workers from the Swissport company – hired by the Venezuelan authorities to receive luggage and board passengers – began checking the 96 people registered for the flight.

An hour later, the Conviasa plane from Venezuela landed in Piarco.

Eduardo Ávila and his wife Celia de Ávila, two elderly Venezuelans who were here with their children and grandchildren, told Newsday that they still had a long way to go after arriving in Caracas, but that they were happy.

Celia said, "We are calm. We already saw the plane land and, although we know it will be several hours to get to our house, we already know that we are going back."

Officials from the Venezuelan embassy here said the cost of the flight was being covered by its government and therefore free to passengers. Airport departure taxes were also waived. Passengers were, however, required to pay for a covid19 PCR test before qualifying for the flight.

"This is the first repatriation flight from T&T, a door opens for future air or sea travel. We hope to continue counting on the support of the authorities because there are still many Venezuelans who want to return home."

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on February 27, 2021, 05:09:44 PM
PM urges US to lift sanctions on Venezuela
CLINT CHAN TACK (T&T NEWSDAY).


THE Prime Minister on Friday appealed to United States President Joe Biden's administration to use its influence to help achieve a negotiated solution to the crisis in Venezuela and lift sanctions imposed on that country by his predecessor Donald Trump.

Dr Rowley, who is also Caricom chairman, made this appeal to the US during a virtual interview with the Atlantic Council.

The council is a US-based, non-partisan organisation founded in 1961 to provide a forum for international political, business and intellectual leaders.

Rowley said he would like to see an "early review of the US' scorched earth policy in this area, since the United Nations assessment confirmed what we always knew and that is, the ineffective harsh policies, unilateral sanctions, are contributing immensely to widespread, additional indiscriminate human suffering in this Caribbean nation."

Venezuela, he continued, needs help "which is not beyond the US leadership." Rowley recalled that since 2019, Mexico, Norway and Caricom have been advocating dialogue between opposing political factions in Venezuela to solve "seemingly intractable political problem".

He said, "I will ask the (Biden) administration not to be over-influenced by the dogmas of the recent past and the hawks of the recent flyings but to look at this with a clean table top." The US, he said, "once again has the stature and the influence, to bring the Venezuelan parties to a table, with the support of Caricom and other nations, read the riot act to everybody and agree, as they all agreed, that Venezuelans must solve Venezuela's problems, not only in the interest of Venezuela but the interest of all of us who are co-dependents."

He added, "We are convinced that it is possible that some solutions can be had, so that sanctions can be removed."

Rowley described Venezuela's relationship with Caricom and the US as "so fundamental to our comfort and prosperity."

Recalling steps taken by TT to sign the Dragon gas deal with Venezuela in 2018, Rowley said his government was able "to get Venezuela to agree to do something that not been done before, which is to export its gas.

"Everything was in place to have TT tap, for the international market and for its own development, gas supplies close to our border. But the sanctions on Venezuela have brought a halt to all of this."

He also said Caricom was very disappointed with the recent announcement of "the unconvincing designation of Cuba as a terrorist sponsoring state.

"We believe that this is one place that climate change would be welcome. We could all benefit from a significant thaw in the relationship between Cuba and the US."

Rowley said "continued close collaboration and partnership on regional and international issues" was the best way to advance US-Caricom relations for everyone's benefit

In a statement issued earlier in the day, Caricom said it was seeking close collaboration with the US on issues such as combating illegal firearms in the region; blacklisting and correspondent banking; energy and trade.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on March 03, 2021, 02:33:29 AM
Repatriated Venezuelans lose all T&T rights
RYAN HAMILTON-DAVIS (T&T NEWSDAY).


ANY Venezuelan who is repatriated, even if they were registered with Government, will have to apply for a visa and get exemptions and permissions if they wish to return to this country, National Security Minister Stuart Young said on Tuesday.

Young at a press conference reminded reporters that after Venezuelans were registered in June 2018, government approved a policy that would require any Venezuelan entering T&T to have a VISA. “That is the applicable law,” he said.

He also highlighted the decision on March 22 last year, to close T&T’s borders due to the pandemic. “I put that contextual background to let it be known at the outset that this re-registration exercise is not an opportunity for any people who illegally entered into T&T or people who don’t have visas to be here in T&T, to come forth and register now,” Young said. The re-registration process would allow Venezuelan migrants to work and live in T&T legally for another six months.

Asked whether there was any thought toward extending the time in which they were allowed to stay in the country legally or making these registered Venezuelans permanent, Young said only in special circumstances would the registration process lead to a permanent status.

“There may be independent circumstances, where some Venezuelans go on to get married and put in an application for permanent residency but that too is a process.

And it’s not just cause you applied you are given the permanent residency.

“Anyone who came in under this registration scheme, the time won’t allow you to fall into any categories which would trigger that (permanent residence).

“At this time this is the government’s policy we are doing it (registering Venezuelans) in a six month cycle. Maybe later we will take a different position but at this stage we continue to maintain a six month cycle. It is what we are going with.”

Young said several Venezuelans have opted to leave the country. Last Friday, 96 Venezuelans – 82 adults and 14 children – left for their homeland on a flight organised by the Venezuelan government. Some other Venezuelans had their cards cancelled, either because they committed a crime and would have to be deported or because they requested to return home.

While he could not give an exact figure of how many people were either repatriated or deported, he said the number was in the hundreds.

Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: asylumseeker on June 17, 2021, 04:36:40 AM
Venezuelan refugee living in T&T among athletes on Tokyo 2020 Refugee Olympic Team. (https://www.cnc3.co.tt/venezuelan-refugee-living-in-tt-among-athletes-on-tokyo-2020-refugee-olympic-team/)
Title: Re: Venezuelans and T&T Thread
Post by: Flex on July 13, 2021, 12:10:37 PM
124 Venezuelans deported on Sunday
GREVIC ALVARADO (T&T NEWSDAY).


THE Trinidad and Tobago and Venezuelan authorities deported 124 Venezuelans to their country on Sunday.

Vice Admiral Euclides Brito, commander of the 61 Integral Defence Zone in Delta Amacuro, Venezuela (Zodi), announced this on Monday through a Venezuelan radio station.

Brito was speaking with the governor of Delta Amacuro Liseta Hernández when he said the group of 124 Venezuelans is travelling on a Venezuelan navy ship.

"We are waiting for our compatriots who come back to Venezuela through the Plan Vuelta a la Patria (Return to the Homeland Plan). We await them with open arms," ​​he said.

The Twitter account of the Guiria Military Hospital said doctors travelled from there in the AB Margarita71 boat to deal with the deportees, whom they tested for covid19. They will all be sent into home quarantine when they arrive in Venezuela.

Of the 124 deportees, 44 were detained at the Immigration Detention Centre (IDC), Aripo, while another group was at the Heliport in Chaguaramas. They were joined by humanitarian cases.

This is the first of two trips that will take Venezuelans home this week from TT. The next voyage will be a repatriation trip this weekend.

Officials from the Venezuelan embassy in Port of Spain told Newsday last week they were completing the details of the repatriation of 700 Venezuelans on a ferry.

These 700 decided to go home voluntarily after being unemployed here owing to restrictions against covid19, or because of illness.

Although the date and time are not confirmed, several of the travellers selected by the embassy told Newsday the trip will be this Saturday, July 17. A ferry is scheduled to leave Port of Spain and arrive at a port in the state of Anzoátegui, Venezuela.

These two shipments of Venezuelan nationals this week will add more than 1,000 people who have returned to their country in 2021.

Two of the trips have been deportations, taking home 172 people in April and 124 this Sunday.

In February, 95 Venezuelans left on a Piarco-Caracas flight.

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