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Don’t play with Ebola
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The Ebola virus, first discovered in 1976, is one of the most terrifying viruses known to modern medical science. Believed to have made the jump from animals to humans it is a deadly illness with a fatality rate of 90 per cent.
The Ministry of Health is entirely correct to proceed with an excess of caution in raising concerns and increasing the alert status of port health officials regarding the potential threat of the Ebola virus disease. With more than 200 cases reported in West Africa and a startlingly high percentage originating in Guinea, where 168 cases include 108 that have resulted in death, improving screening at all the country’s ports of entry is simply good sense.
According to Dr Clive Tilluckdharry, the government has ordered “strict monitoring,” and clearly communicating its mission will go some distance in improving the public’s reaction to the inevitable slowdowns that result when entering Trinidad and Tobago. The Ebola virus, first discovered in 1976, is one of the most terrifying viruses known to modern medical science. Believed to have made the jump from animals to humans it is a deadly illness with a fatality rate of 90 per cent. Severely ill patients can only be placed on supportive care. There is no vaccine that works on Ebola.
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Canada to donate its own Ebola vaccine to WHO for use in Africa
ROD NICKEL, REUTERS
FIRST POSTED: TUESDAY, AUGUST 12, 2014 06:15 PM EDT | UPDATED: TUESDAY, AUGUST 12, 2014 11:06 PM EDTSierra Leone declares emergency over Ebola, death toll hits 729
WINNIPEG - Canada will donate a small quantity of an experimental Ebola vaccine developed in its government lab to the World Health Organization for use in Africa, the country's health minister said on Tuesday.
The decision to donate the vaccine came after the WHO said on Tuesday that it was ethical to offer untested drugs to people infected by the virus.
The Canadian government will donate between 800 to 1,000 doses of the vaccine, with the final number given dependent on how much Canada holds back for research and clinical trials. The government will also keep a small supply in case it is needed domestically.
Health Minister Rona Ambrose said she offered the vaccine to Dr. Margaret Chan, director general of the WHO.
The U.S. is also working on a vaccine and the WHO and governments involved were discussing possible use in Africa, Dr. Greg Taylor, deputy chief public health officer of the Public Health Agency of Canada told Reuters in an interview ahead of the Canadian announcement.
Canada only has about 1,500 animal doses of the vaccine, which it invented a few years ago, and would need four to six months to make a large quantity, he said. The government's vaccine is separate from the treatment being developed by Canada's Tekmira Pharmaceuticals Corp.
"We see this as a global resource, something we need to put on the global table to say ... how can we make best use of this asset? "We're looking to do that as fast as we can," Taylor said, speaking from Ottawa.
The Ebola outbreak is the world's largest and deadliest. So far, 1,013 people have died, the vast majority in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone.
The Canadian vaccine, which the agency licensed for commercialization to U.S. firm BioProtection Systems, a unit of Newlink Genetics, has proven effective in animals but has never been tested in humans, Taylor said.
Last week, Iowa-based NewLink said that BioProtection had a contract with the U.S. Department of Defense for studies to bring the Canadian Ebola vaccine closer to human testing.
"We've been trying to figure out how we can make a contribution in the fight against this disease and get our vaccine into the clinic," Brian Wiley, NewLink vice-president of business development, told Reuters on Tuesday. "A large amount of work still needs to be done, but when there is a dire need the powers that be move at a quicker pace."
Canada's Taylor did not specify which of several U.S. vaccines in development he was referring to that may be used in Africa along with the Canadian vaccine.
Profectus BioSciences of Tarrytown, New York, has tested its Ebola vaccine in monkeys with good results, its chief science officer John Eldridge said on Tuesday.
Still, deciding whether to use an experimental drug on humans is "very difficult," Taylor said.
"You really don't know how safe it is, you don't know what the side effects are going to be. But in this extraordinary circumstance in Africa right now, we're trying to do everything we can to assist."
The first doses in Africa would likely be available to health care workers, Taylor said.
The Public Health Agency of Canada was also involved in the development of ZMapp, an experimental Ebola treatment licensed by U.S. firm Mapp Biopharmaceutical that has been used to treat two infected American aid workers. Liberia said on Tuesday it will get Mapp's drug to treat two doctors.
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That's a great gesture - pharmaceutical research easily costs into the millions, so that's no small thing
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The two American doctors that contracted Ebola have both been cured by an experimental drug. What are the ethics in withholding this treatment from Liberians in need?
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The two American doctors that contracted Ebola have both been cured by an experimental drug. What are the ethics in withholding this treatment from Liberians in need?
Experimental drugs are by definition riskier prospects. Moreover, the manufacture of them is often not perfected, being focused on very small scale prototype production. Hopefully, if the stuff works and is safe it'll be shipped over.
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The two American doctors that contracted Ebola have both been cured by an experimental drug. What are the ethics in withholding this treatment from Liberians in need?
Experimental drugs are by definition riskier prospects. Moreover, the manufacture of them is often not perfected, being focused on very small scale prototype production. Hopefully, if the stuff works and is safe it'll be shipped over.
The news reporting that the Liberian hospitals are not up to the standards of the West. The implication is that African hospitals are too poorly run to use this technique - BBC
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West African nations governments failure to deal with the disease before it became widespread is what bothers me the most. In the Ivory Coast when less than 100 people were infected there were community leaders and doctors crying out to the government to treat the disease as priority and as a threat to everyone, but of course their cries were brushed off. (I believe they were brushed off because the government believe the disease was not this lethal and state funding could be spent elsewhere) It wasn't until after the disease started spreading like rapid wildfire these nations governments started taking the necessary measures like isolating those who were infected and pleading with other nations for medical assistance.
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very sad. a doctor from liberia who received the experimental drug has died. sounds like he was not treated in the states rather in africa.
good points sando prince. i hope it's just unwillingness rather than utter incompetence; i fear it is parts of both >:(
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Interesting read about a remedy for ebola:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/30/world/africa/study-says-zmapp-works-against-ebola-but-making-it-takes-time.html?action=click&contentCollection=Travel®ion=Footer&module=TopNews&pgtype=article
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is NOW de hospital workers in liberia choose to go on strike. when the country fighting a full-blown epidemic ?!?!!
WTF
:yellowcard:
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AIDS eh do the job, so we see the reintroduction of Ebola. Wonder what's next.
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is NOW de hospital workers in liberia choose to go on strike. when the country fighting a full-blown epidemic ?!?!!
WTF
:yellowcard:
you expected differently? lol
Elan...yuh blaming the white man?
Uncle Sam and others would never do that!!
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looks like ebola reach de usa. a few weeks ago obama say ebola was unlikely to reach. like de prez credibility needed another hit.
they need to lock them airports down. tsa only feeling up people.
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looks like ebola reach de usa. a few weeks ago obama say ebola was unlikely to reach. like de prez credibility needed another hit.
they need to lock them airports down. tsa only feeling up people.
Only person who's credibility taking a hit is yours... with that steady cockstand yuh have fuh Obama. I surprise yuh eh say is Obama self who give Duncan Ebola.
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EBOLA ANXIETY
Arts Minister: Meeting next week on future of Carnival (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Concern-over-Carnival-2015-278867651.html)
By Michelle Loubon (T&T Express)
Story Created: Oct 10, 2014 at 9:13 PM ECT
Arts and Multiculturalism Minister Dr Lincoln Douglas has instructed his staff to convene a “national conversation on Carnival and Ebola” by next week to discuss the future of the festival.
Ebola is a deadly virus originating in parts of West Africa. It is classified as a haemorrhagic fever and may be transmitted through bodily fluids such as blood and secretions. Ebola has claimed the life of one person in the United States, Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian, and 4,033 people in other parts of the world.
Douglas said he will have to be guided by the directives from the Ministries of Health and National Security. He also said it may not be the first time Carnival, which is often billed as “The Greatest Show on Earth”, might be postponed.
Meanwhile, Douglas said plans are moving apace for Carnival 2015, which is scheduled for February 16 and 17.
Carnival researcher Alvin Daniell said Carnival was shifted from February 14 and 15 in 1972 to May due to the polio epidemic which had claimed ten lives. It had prompted the late Lord Kitchener (Aldwyn Roberts) to sing the classic “Rainorama”, “Polio or no polio: We Want We Mas”.
Via a telephone interview yesterday, Douglas said: “I won’t be making the decision alone. I have immediately began to ask my staff to issue a national conversation on Carnival and Ebola. By next week Wednesday or Thursday, we will have a conversation with all the relevant stakeholders to look at all the options if it ever reaches to that.”
Douglas added, “I am sure Health and Security would make a decision. They would be at the forefront to guide the necessary level of thought. It may not be the first time Carnival is postponed because of the threat of a debilitating disease.”
Sharing his sentiments on Ebola, Douglas said, “It is a significant threat to the world. It is ‘ground zero’ in the African continent and places like Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone. This is not chikungunya (CHIKV) or a simple virus. It has the potential to spread across the country. I am committed to protecting the health and safety of the national community. For a small country like ours, an Ebola outbreak can decimate it in a small space of time.”
Asked about Carnival 2015 preparations, Douglas said, “Preparations are in place for Carnival. The National Carnival Commission and I met. Plans are in place for the routes. I have been to a number of band launches. Everybody will have to be cautious and on their guard. Those of us who travel we will have to be extremely cautious. The State is looking at controlling and making sure people are arriving on the shores after being properly screened.”
Well-established vectors for infection include handling primates infected with Ebola, contact with infected corpses during funeral services and touching infected patients without exercising proper caution.
Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan said yesterday, “We have to look at the international approaches. I have met with the adviser on health issues. I will take a decision. It is not a decision against having the Carnival but we are looking at international travel patterns. And a lot of screening will be going on to prevent the transmission. Once that occurs, there would be no problem.”
Principal Medical Officer of Environmental Health Dr Clive Tilluckdharry said, “We have to wait and see how it (Ebola) goes.”
With regard to chikungunya, Tilluckdharry said, “The number should be 100. People have to take the necessary precaution and keep their surroundings clean.” —See Page 23
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now a 2nd health care worker infected with ebola. for a first world health care system, dis hospital looking like a mess right now. talk about undermining confidence.
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more leading from behind from de behind-in-chief:
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-annoyed-by-weak-ebola-response-from-france--italy--and-others-165829485.html
de scolding is a deflection - obama try to pull a fast one and make a 30-year old obama booster the surgeon general of the nation. ah tell allyuh obama have a weak bench - this administration is a B-team at best. dey eh able, stumbling along and allyuh happily lowering the bar.
in better news, sound like nigeria has managed to stem the ebola outbreak. this is very good news; glad nigeria demonstrating a competent public health response.
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Ribbit, you is ah flickin joker, oui!
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Travellers from 5 countries banned
By Anna Ramdass (Express).
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Persons from Ebola stricken countries—Sierra Leone, Guinea, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Liberia and Nigeria—have been banned from entering this country with immediate effect.
Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan made the announcement at yesterday’s post-Cabinet news conference at the Office of the Prime Minister, St Ann’s.
Additionally, persons who have visited those countries within a six-week period will also be prohibited from entering T&T.
Citizens of this country who visited or live in those countries and wish to come home will be quarantined for a 21-day period.
Khan said all Government officials have also been banned from travelling to any of the Ebola stricken countries.
Khan said all airlines will be notified of this decision.
Banning United States travellers is not being considered as Khan said the US has a stringent screening system in place.
He also assured there was no suspected Ebola case in this country but stressed the need for preparedness.
Khan said that a bio-containment unit will be bought at a cost of $3.2 million and will be housed at the Caura Hospital.
He said this unit comprises an eight-room isolation tent with negative pressure and human waste incinerator among other features.
Khan said several hazardous material suits (hazmat) would be also be purchased at a cost of US$20,000 for one.
He said personal protective equipment (PPE) were already available at NIPDEC and had been delivered to health centres and county medical officers of health.
Khan said further the Ebola prevention and response team will coordinate and manage all types of activities related to the prevention and management of the deadly virus.
He said this team will also make a determination on whether Carnival 2015 should be cancelled.
The team is led by Brigadier Anthony Spencer and includes Chief Medical Officer (CMO) Dr Colin Furlonge, representatives from the Office of Disaster and Preparedness Management (ODPM), the Civil Aviation Authority, the Airports Authority, the Port Authority, Maritime Services Division, the National Operations Centre, the private sector and union representatives.
Government, acting on advice from Health Ministry officials, recently vetoed a trip by a Trinidad and Tobago delegation to attend the annual Commonwealth Parliamentary Association Conference which took place in Cameroon, Africa, between October 6 and 12.
According to the World Health Organisation (WHO), over 4,500 people have died from the Ebola virus worldwide, including 236 health care workers.
EBOLA DEATHS in banned countries:
Liberia- 2,458
Sierra Leone- 1,183
Guinea- 843
Congo- 49
Nigeria- 8
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Banning United States travellers is not being considered as Khan said the US has a stringent screening system in place.
Anyone experience this "stringent screening system"?
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Banning United States travellers is not being considered as Khan said the US has a stringent screening system in place.
Anyone experience this "stringent screening system"?
If Ebola comes to T&T it will most likely come via the USA.
As a matter a fact they are the ones who created the virus and they have the patent for it. http://www.google.com/patents/US20120251502
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https://www.youtube.com/v/iff6VLbN9N0
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If Ebola comes to T&T it will most likely come via the USA.
As a matter a fact they are the ones who created the virus and they have the patent for it. http://www.google.com/patents/US20120251502
Both statements are patent nonsense.
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Banning United States travellers is not being considered as Khan said the US has a stringent screening system in place.
Anyone experience this "stringent screening system"?
A black woman vomit on a plane, dey lock she in the bathroom for the rest of the flight. Equipment and Training barely available in hospitals.
Is a good ting dis eh de zombie apocalypse.
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If Ebola comes to T&T it will most likely come via the USA.
As a matter a fact they are the ones who created the virus and they have the patent for it. http://www.google.com/patents/US20120251502
Both statements are patent nonsense.
First statement is based on sensible speculation due to the high number of visitors that T&T get from the USA compared with West Africa and considering that Ebola is now in the USA and is probably more widespread there than is being acknowledged by the American media.
Second statement is also based on logical deduction based on the fact that scientist in the USA have a patent for the Ebola virus.
Normally when someone owns a patent for a virus it means that they control production of that virus and would also have done experiments on said virus.
It also usually means that you also have and own the antidote or vaccine to resist said virus which I am sure the US scientist also have.
Ebola like AIDS was released in African mainly for population and economic control and to keep the rest of the World looking at Africa in a negative light just when Africa was rising to become one of the world's economic superpowers.
The ploy to keep the Black nation from rising to its rightful place on the planet continues.
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First statement is based on sensible speculation due to the high number of visitors that T&T get from the USA compared with West Africa and considering that Ebola is now in the USA and is probably more widespread there than is being acknowledged by the American media.
Second statement is also based on logical deduction based on the fact that scientist in the USA have a patent for the Ebola virus.
Normally when someone owns a patent for a virus it means that they control production of that virus and would also have done experiments on said virus.
It also usually means that you also have and own the antidote or vaccine to resist said virus which I am sure the US scientist also have.
Ebola like AIDS was released in African mainly for population and economic control and to keep the rest of the World looking at Africa in a negative light just when Africa was rising to become one of the world's economic superpowers.
The ploy to keep the Black nation from rising to its rightful place on the planet continues.
There are 243 million people living in the U.S... not counting the Mexicans who close de blinds when the Census people came knocking. Of that 243 million people, about 5 contract Ebola. The probability of transmission is pretty small, considering you need direct physical contact with an infected person in order to contract the virus yourself. Put short, you need way more people to contract Ebola in the US before Americans threaten anybody else with spreading the disease.
As for the second, it's foolishness, pure and simple. Clearly you neither researched what yuh was posting, nor did you think it through. The first known incidence of Ebola occured in Zaire (The Congo) in 1976. This patent was applied for 32 years after Ebola first arrived on the scene in 2008. Not only that, but the patent wasn't even for this Ebola virus, but a related strain called Bundibugyo which has yet to be contracted by any human.
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First statement is based on sensible speculation due to the high number of visitors that T&T get from the USA compared with West Africa and considering that Ebola is now in the USA and is probably more widespread there than is being acknowledged by the American media.
Second statement is also based on logical deduction based on the fact that scientist in the USA have a patent for the Ebola virus.
Normally when someone owns a patent for a virus it means that they control production of that virus and would also have done experiments on said virus.
It also usually means that you also have and own the antidote or vaccine to resist said virus which I am sure the US scientist also have.
Ebola like AIDS was released in African mainly for population and economic control and to keep the rest of the World looking at Africa in a negative light just when Africa was rising to become one of the world's economic superpowers.
The ploy to keep the Black nation from rising to its rightful place on the planet continues.
There are 243 million people living in the U.S... not counting the Mexicans who close de blinds when the Census people came knocking. Of that 243 million people, about 5 contract Ebola. The probability of transmission is pretty small, considering you need direct physical contact with an infected person in order to contract the virus yourself. Put short, you need way more people to contract Ebola in the US before Americans threaten anybody else with spreading the disease.
As for the second, it's foolishness, pure and simple. Clearly you neither researched what yuh was posting, nor did you think it through. The first known incidence of Ebola occured in Zaire (The Congo) in 1976. This patent was applied for 32 years after Ebola first arrived on the scene in 2008. Not only that, but the patent wasn't even for this Ebola virus, but a related strain called Bundibugyo which has yet to be contracted by any human.
Honestly Bakes you haven't told me anything I don't already know about Ebola but typically you have made an arrogant assumption about how much I know or don't know about Ebola in an effort to seek an argument.
Also you may not be aware but there is actually a suspicion that the new strain of the Ebola virus that the Americans have developed can be transmitted by air as some medical staff wearing protective suits have mysteriously contracted the Ebola without touching patients.
Research on this possibility is still ongoing but I am sure we will more about it sooner or later if true.
The rest of stuff you typed does not dismiss what I speculated on as you also based your argument on an assumption like I did for mines. Btw the info you gave about only 5 people in America having contracted Ebola is what has been reported so far by the American media. We don't know that it is fact but it is what the American media will like you to believe and you are welcomed to believe it if you wish.
What any sensible thinking person would realise is that there are probably way more people between Dallas and Huston who may have contracted the virus but you need to ask some logical questions to get to that point and not swallow whatever the official American media tells you.
At any rate we are both giving our opinions on the Ebola issue and I believe that it is more likely to spread to the Caribbean from America than from Africa especially if they make the foolish assumption that folks coming from America will be Ebola free and should not be checked out properly.
Have a look at these videos giving another perspective on Ebola which I am more inclined to believe.
A Way To Stop Ebola Discovered!
https://www.youtube.com/v/KIzlMbwOgcI
Infowars.com is calling for a general strike across the United States in response to the federal government’s botched response to the Ebola outbreak and the Obama administration’s refusal to block flights coming in from West Africa.
We are calling on everyone to get behind the strike by tweeting under the hashtag #stopebolastrike and by personally participating in the general strike from Monday to Wednesday. We also invite other media outlets and media personalities to support the strike.
CDC Allows Ebola On Passenger Plane
https://www.youtube.com/v/y3yTmVWanMc
Alex Jones breaks down the latest Ebola news and how the CDC told a nurse who had treated Thomas Eric Duncan that she was cleared to fly even though she felt ill.
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What you say makes no sense. I make no arrogant assumption, I'm simply pointing out the very obvious logical failures in your position. There is no 'new strain' of Ebola, it's the same virus as the 1976 infection. That timeline alone tells you that the epidemic we're seeing now isn't related to the patent you linked... but according to you you already knew that (I ent "telling yuh nothing yuh didn't already know"), so I suppose yuh posted an irrelevant link because yuh fingers needed the exercise.
The fact that you're suggesting that it might be transmitting via the air also only reveals your own ignorance as to how contagions spread. Ebola doesn't spread via air, just like AIDS doesn't spread via air, that's not going to change because that's not how these two particular viruses operate. Call that "arrogance" if yuh want to, but that's just simple scientific fact. But don't believe me, keep watching more Alex Jones videos.
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What you say makes no sense. I make no arrogant assumption, I'm simply pointing out the very obvious logical failures in your position. There is no 'new strain' of Ebola, it's the same virus as the 1976 infection. That timeline alone tells you that the epidemic we're seeing now isn't related to the patent you linked... but according to you you already knew that (I ent "telling yuh nothing yuh didn't already know"), so I suppose yuh posted an irrelevant link because yuh fingers needed the exercise.
The fact that you're suggesting that it might be transmitting via the air also only reveals your own ignorance as to how contagions spread. Ebola doesn't spread via air, just like AIDS doesn't spread via air, that's not going to change because that's not how these two particular viruses operate. Call that "arrogance" if yuh want to, but that's just simple scientific fact. But don't believe me, keep watching more Alex Jones videos.
Stop with the lame hogwash argument Bakes, you are sounding rather dumb now. Are you a scientist?
No you are not and I suspect we should thank God for that!
Well I know and read enough to know that viruses do mutate over time especially ones that have been around since the 1970's and not only that but scientists who experiment on viruses can also speed up the mutation process especially if they were the sick ones who created the virus in the first place and want to ensure the new strain can spread more rapidly and take out more victims.
In my humble opinion I make a lot more sense that you in this argument and I am quite happy that I am not blessed or cursed depending on how we want to look at it with your level of intelligence.
I think you need to educate yourself a bit more on Ebola if you are trying to impress anyone with your knowledge. Did you look at the videos?
If you did then you would not still be arguing and making yourself look even less informed that you were previously looking.
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Stop with the lame hogwash argument Bakes, you are sounding rather dumb now. Are you a scientist?
No you are not and I suspect we should thank God for that!
Well I know and read enough to know that viruses do mutate over time especially one that has been around since the 1970's and not only that but scientist who experiment on viruses can also speed up the mutation process especially if they were the sick ones who created the virus in the first place and want to enure the new strain can spread more rapidly and take out more victims.
In my humble opinion I make a lot more sense that you in this argument and I am quite happy that I am not blessed or cursed depending on how we want to look at it with your level of intelligence.
I think you need to educate yourself a bit more on Ebola if you are trying to impress any with your knowledge. Did you look at the video?
If you did then you would not still be arguing and making yourself look even less informed that you were previously looking.
Fella save yuhself de long talk, you cannot question or impugn my intelligence. I am not the smartest man in the world, I sure I'm not even the smartest man on this forum, but you have proved yourself time and time again to be a spectacular dumbass, so you cannot even fix your mouth to question me. I may not be a scientist but I graduated with a minor concentration in Biology and have enough of a background and understanding to know what I'm talking about. Viruses can and do mutate, but they don't mutate to alter whether they're airborne or transmitted via contac. What part of "it's the same virus as the 1976 infection" do you NOT understand? Maybe you here to impress man but I get enough accolades and satisfaction in real life than to come looking for it on this forum.
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Stop with the lame hogwash argument Bakes, you are sounding rather dumb now. Are you a scientist?
No you are not and I suspect we should thank God for that!
Well I know and read enough to know that viruses do mutate over time especially one that has been around since the 1970's and not only that but scientist who experiment on viruses can also speed up the mutation process especially if they were the sick ones who created the virus in the first place and want to enure the new strain can spread more rapidly and take out more victims.
In my humble opinion I make a lot more sense that you in this argument and I am quite happy that I am not blessed or cursed depending on how we want to look at it with your level of intelligence.
I think you need to educate yourself a bit more on Ebola if you are trying to impress any with your knowledge. Did you look at the video?
If you did then you would not still be arguing and making yourself look even less informed that you were previously looking.
Fella save yuhself de long talk, you cannot question or impugn my intelligence. I am not the smartest man in the world, I sure I'm not even the smartest man on this forum, but you have proved yourself time and time again to be a spectacular dumbass, so you cannot even fix your mouth to question me. I may not be a scientist but I graduated with a minor concentration in Biology and have enough of a background and understanding to know what I'm talking about. Viruses can and do mutate, but they don't mutate to alter whether they're airborne or transmitted via contac. What part of "it's the same virus as the 1976 infection" do you NOT understand? Maybe you here to impress man but I get enough accolades and satisfaction in real life than to come looking for it on this forum.
We all know on here that you are the ego-tripping king who loves to pick an argument even when there is no argument to be won.
You lost this argument even before you started because you made a wrong assumption and did not do your research. Yes Mr clever you did not do your research and still need to come off your high horse and do some home work.
Well I did mines and my speculation still stands that Ebola is more likely to come to the Caribbean via America which currently has a pending Ebola outbreak if the US government don’t wake up and install the necessary preventative measures.
I just hope our Caribbean governments are smart enough to realize that they don't have the expertise and spending power to cope with an Ebola outbreak that America has and not take the risk.
My speculation that America created Ebola also still stands as quite logical especially seeing that they have a patent for the virus and have a track record of experimenting with creating viruses since before the 1970s. That fact is well documented and that is what I base my speculation on as I don't trust America when it comes to caring about the welfare of African peoples and their descendents around the world including those in America.
PS: Have you yet taken the time to look at the two videos I posted or are you too anxious to have yet another vain ego-tripping argument to be bothered?
Here are the videos once again, I strongly advice everyone living America or elsewhere to pay attention.
A Way To Stop Ebola Discovered!
https://www.youtube.com/v/KIzlMbwOgcI
Infowars.com is calling for a general strike across the United States in response to the federal government’s botched response to the Ebola outbreak and the Obama administration’s refusal to block flights coming in from West Africa.
We are calling on everyone to get behind the strike by tweeting under the hashtag #stopebolastrike and by personally participating in the general strike from Monday to Wednesday. We also invite other media outlets and media personalities to support the strike.
CDC Allows Ebola On Passenger Plane
https://www.youtube.com/v/y3yTmVWanMc
Alex Jones breaks down the latest Ebola news and how the CDC told a nurse who had treated Thomas Eric Duncan that she was cleared to fly even though she felt ill.
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Some more Ebola education for Bakes and anyone else who cares about their life.
This video is a must see if you haven't yet taken the time to view it.
Ebola - What You're Not Being Told
https://www.youtube.com/v/JnQVUf775VE
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steupse..conspiracy bullshit. Sites like those just make our job harder having to explain what is bullshit and what isn't..sadly bullshit spreads quicker than facts as it raises peoples fears.
Look at how Nigeria cleared themselves from ebola..a patient who wasnt diagnosed for 3 days and travelled..yet it didn't wipe out Lagos. People are not understanding the concept of direct contact and think it is way more contagious than it actually is. It is a virus with a very high mortality rate, but in terms of its contagious index it isn't as high as many believe.
I hoping it taken care of in Sierra Leone and Liberia, get there under control and it will fade into the background again
Fascinating virus i mus admit tho
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the vaccine is going into human trials and from what i heard from a close friend who is a doctor in the ER at one of Toronto's busiest hospitals, the medical community will have any outbreak under control and the vaccine may be very effective in curbing the spread...
it is a matter of procedure and protocol, fear mongering is akin to manipulation, those conspiracy sites want everyone in a panic, fear sells for alex jones... higher readership numbers...
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sadly bullshit spreads quicker than facts as it raises peoples fears.
Yes, Doc. :thumbsup:
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BAN STAYS
Carnival not in danger, yet (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/BAN-STAYS-279857612.html)
By Ria Taitt Political Editor (T&T Express)
Story Created: Oct 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM ECT
Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan said yesterday the travel ban on Nigeria remains, notwithstanding the fact that the World Health Organisation yesterday declared Nigeria to be Ebola-free.
“The decision of the Cabinet would stand until further notice as the Prime Minister said,” he told the Express yesterday, when asked whether Government would reconsider its travel ban on the West African nation, in the light of the WHO’s pronouncements. Cabinet last Thursday placed a ban on travel to Nigeria and four other African nations (Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Democratic Republic of Congo). The Government mandated that Trinbagonians living in those countries who wish to return home, must be placed under a 21-day quarantine.
“So we will look at it again, based on the new information. Obviously it would be looked at, it would be discussed by the Cabinet and a decision would be taken,” he said.
The World Health Organisation said Nigeria’s Ebola-free status, after having had 20 cases of Ebola, represented a “rare victory” in the months-long battle against the fatal disease.
The disease continues to spread rapidly in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea and has claimed more than 4,500 lives.
But Nigeria’s containment of Ebola was a “spectacular success story,” WHO’s director for Nigeria, Rui Gama Vaz, told a news conference in the capital, Abuja.
On Friday, a Nigerian national, Malond Aisha Adu arrived in Trinidad on Caribbean Airlines Fight BW 525 and was not allowed into Trinidad and Tobago, in keeping with the ban imposed by the Government. The woman reportedly stated she would lodge a formal complaint with her Government over her deportation from Trinidad and Tobago.
Yesterday the Nigerian High Commission declined to comment on the issue and instead issued a print out of a news report confirming the WHO had declared Nigeria to be Ebola-free.
Last week, Musa John Jen resigned as Nigeria’s High Commissioner to Trinidad and Tobago in order to return to Nigeria to contest a governorship. When the Express visited the commission’s headquarters in St Clair yesterday, a secretary stated that deputy High Commissioner Ade Yemi was in a meeting and would not be available for comment.
An AP report stated that in July, Ebola had come to Lagos, Nigeria, which is Africa’s most populous city, through an airline passenger who had carried Ebola from Liberia to Nigeria. The July 23 announcement about the disease hitting Nigeria “rocked public health communities all around the world”, the WHO said in a statement.
Many feared the worst in in an urban sprawl characterised by large populations living in crowded and unsanitary conditions in many slums. Lagos’ population of about 21 million people is nearly the combined populations of the infected countries of Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, the statement said.
“The last thing anyone in the world wants to hear are the two words, ‘Ebola’ and ‘Lagos’, in the same sentence,” US Consul General Jeffrey Hawkins noted at the time, saying the juxtaposition conjured up images of an “apocalyptic urban outbreak”.
Instead, with swift coordination between state and federal health officials, the WHO and the US Centers for Disease Control, and with ample financial and material resources from Nigeria’s government, isolation wards were immediately constructed and, more slowly, designated Ebola treatment centres.
Health officials reached every single known person to have contact with infected people in Lagos and 99.8 per cent in Port Harcourt, Nigeria’s oil capital, where the disease was carried by an infected diplomat.
With 18,500 visits to 894 contacts, health workers tracked the progress of all who had come in contact with the disease.
In the end, Nigeria suffered 20 cases of Ebola and eight deaths, including those of two doctors and a nurse, the AP report said.
It noted that yesterday’s announcement came after 42 days passed—twice the disease’s maximum incubation period—since the last case in Nigeria tested negative.
“The outbreak in Nigeria has been contained,” Vaz said. “But we must be clear that we only won a battle. The war will only end when West Africa is also declared free of Ebola.”
According to the AP report, Vaz warned that Nigeria’s geographical position and extensive borders makes the country, Africa’s most populous of over 160 million people, vulnerable to additional imported cases of Ebola.
Nigerian officials are checking for such dangers at land, air and sea borders.
“We must remain vigilant,” said Hussaini Abdu, Nigeria’s country director for the charity ActionAid. “Ebola is a highly dangerous virus and we must stay alert to any signs of new infections so we can respond quickly and effectively.”
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Ebola panic among Trinis in New York (http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2014-10-25/ebola-panic-among-trinis-new-york)
Rhondor Dowlat (T&T Guardian)
Published: Saturday, October 25, 2014
Now that Ebola has struck closer to home, with the latest case being reported in New York City (NYC), T&T citizens living there now fear for their lives.
The case has caused alarm among Trinidadians living in Manhattan, some a few blocks away from the Harlem apartment of the patient, Dr Craig Spencer.
Ebola is spread by direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person.
Despite the large numbers of travellers between New York and T&T, however, T&T will not implement any ban or quarantine system for people arriving in the country from JFK.
This was the response of Brig Anthony Phillips-Spencer, head of the National Ebola Prevention, Information and Response team (NEPIR).
He explained that the latest Ebola case in NYC was an “incident case” and not an outbreak.
“There is a procedure by which a country will implement a travel restriction and that is if there is an outbreak of the deadly virus. The US is not yet at that point. What we see here is an incident.
“If there is a number of infections in a given area, then it would be considered an outbreak and only then can travel restrictions, bans and/or quarantines take effect,” Phillips-Spencer explained.
He said the authorities were closely monitoring the situation, and added: “We are going to continue to intensify further. We continue to improve and refine and will put out public advisories. Our focus is also public education and awareness.”
Phillips-Spencer also said NEPIR had successfully spotted an incoming sea vessel Lauren Foss, which was on its way to T&T from Congo which has not had any cases of Ebola.
There have been 68 cases this year in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), a much bigger country, which is one of the four countries in west Africa from which travel to T&T is banned. T&T nationals coming from the DRC, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia will have to undergo 21 days of quarantine.
Phillips-Spencer explained: “What we are doing is screening at all ports, airport and seaports but before the actual screening is done, we are doing scouting, keeping in touch with airlines and ships before they even enter the jurisdiction.
“We are finding out who is onboard, where they are coming from, how many crew members and purpose.”
The Lauren Foss was due to enter T&T waters on Wednesday to change an eight-member crew which flew in from the US. The ship was inspected and no risk was detected so the crew was allowed to change and the vessel was allowed to continue its voyage.
“We will continue to refine drills and operating procedures,” Phillips-Spencer said.
He also revealed that T&T would seek assistance from abroad in obtaining a level four laboratory testing facility for the Ebola virus.
“We have had offers and we have reached out because it is no secret but here in the region we do not have a level four lab for testing. The level four is needed to diagnose Ebola. We have a level below.”
NYC-T&T travel: the numbers
An average of 616 passengers arrive daily on board Caribbean Airline (CAL) flights from John F Kennedy International Airport, New York, according to a CAL representative.
There are four daily CAL flights with each bringing about 154 passengers.
American Airlines has two flights daily to T&T from Miami International Airport. The AA representative, however, did not want to disclose how many passengers were on each flight, saying this was for security reasons.
On Jet Blue Airlines, there is a daily flight carrying an average of 150 passengers. Over 5,362 people arrive at Piarco Airport weekly from New York City and Miami.
Level four labs
The US Centers for Disease Control’s Website explains that viruses and other pathogens that need bio-safety level (BSL) four facilities and practices are extremely dangerous and pose a high risk of life-threatening disease. The Ebola virus is one of them.
BSL four facilities provide the maximum protection and containment. BSL four practices include requirements for complete clothing change before entry, a shower on exit and decontamination of all materials before leaving the lab.
People working in such a lab must wear an air-supplied full-body suit.
Usually, BSL four laboratories are in separate buildings or a totally isolated zone with dedicated supply and exhaust ventilation. Exhaust streams are filtered through high-efficiency particulate air (HEPA) filters.
(Source: How U.S. Clinical Laboratories Can Safely Manage Specimens from Persons Under Investigation for Ebola Virus Disease | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/hcp/safe-specimen-management.html))
A scared NYC Trini speaks:
Speaking with the T&T Guardian yesterday from her apartment on 125th and Broadway, Manhattan, Sajida Baksh was worried by the news.
She has lived in Manhattan for the past 44 years and is a retiree from the Riverbank State Park, Manhattan, which is just two blocks away from Spencer's apartment.
“This news has hit home with me and all I can think about is the thousands of people, including children, that frequent the park. I worked there for years and it is very frightening for me, as you could say it has reached my backyard.”
She said she now has to exercise extreme caution while using public transport in and around NYC.
She added: “The train is crowded and you really can't tell what is happening while in that crowd. I have my car, yes, but there are times when I have to use the train or bus. It is frightening to know that this deadly virus has reached outside our doors.
“Everyone around me is afraid... Americans and T&T locals living up here.
“We pray to God that it does not reach T&T's shores because I do not know if T&T is equipped 100 per cent to handle this Ebola.”
Baksh, a Carnival lover, was also anxious about Carnival 2015, given the Ebola crisis, and believes the Government should think carefully about whether or not it should go on.
She added: “Listen, I love my Carnival and I plan to come to T&T for Carnival next year but now that it have this Ebola crisis I don't think I would dare come, despite all the precautions and measures that may be put in place.
“I personally think that there can be mishaps. Piarco airport will be in a mess and I don't think they would have enough resources to personally check everyone arriving in T&T.
“Carnival is all about revelry, sex, parties, etc, and it will be one of the greatest risks for the spread of Ebola because you have to take into consideration if people will be truthful in filling out the health forms, which would ask origin, and if they have come in contact with persons who may have contracted the Ebola virus.
“We cannot take this for granted. People ought to be truthful on this and there is a big possibility that they won't.”
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Stamina Man never fails yes.
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We have the remedy right in our back yard all this time ;D
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http://www.economist.com/blogs/americasview/2014/10/ebola-caribbean
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T&T to contribute US$100,000
Caricom sets up fund to fight Ebola, CHIKV...
—with reporting by Michelle Loubon
Trinidad and Tobago will put US$100,000 into a fund which has been set up by Caricom to fight the Ebola virus in affected West African countries.
Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar announced this yesterday, following a special meeting of regional heads of State at the Diplomatic Centre in St Ann’s.
The fund has been dubbed “Stop Ebola Here and There (SEHT)”, said Antigua and Barbuda Prime Minister Gaston Browne as he gave details of a ten-point plan to both fight the disease at the source and keep it out of the region.
Yesterday’s 17th Special Meeting of Caricom was called by Persad-Bissessar to discuss the Ebola virus, which has not had a case in the region, and chikungunya (ChikV), which is currently devastating working populations in 23 of the 24 member states of the Caribbean Public Health Agency (Carpha).
Browne, who expressed solidarity with the affected countries, said the meeting had admitted that the likelihood of Ebola penetrating the Caribbean was “low” due to the low level of incoming traffic from affected areas.
Neverthless, there was support for efforts to strengthen entry control and health systems and the new plan will also urge the participation of airlines.
Persad-Bissessar said in the “unlikely” event of the incidence of Ebola in Trinidad and Tobago, systems will be in place to contain and prevent spread of the deadly virus.
She also announced the creation of a regional rapid response unit, “Carib React”, which will be one of the strategies to combat the disease that this country will support.
Stating that she was proud to have been made aware of a Trinidadian doctor working with the World Health Organisation (WHO) in West Africa to fight the disease, Persad-Bissessar said, “We must not allow fear to take hold and prevent us from coming together to help those countries that have been devastated by the disease.”
Responding to questions later on the call by some for Carnival 2015 to be cancelled due to the possibility of the introduction of Ebola into T&T, Persad-Bissessar said to make a decision on that now would be “premature”.
She said, however, that in spite of the low possibility of the disease appearing here, T&T must not be complacent.
Dr Denzil Douglas, St Kitts and Nevis Prime Minister and Lead Head of Government for Human Resource Development, Health and HIV/AIDS, who had also called for the special meeting, said he believed yesterday’s meeting was successful and Caricom countries were able to assess their position at this time with respect to the two illnesses.
Douglas said the fight against the Ebola virus must take place at the source, but Caricom must at the same time be prepared to battle the disease on its own shores.
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Dr die from ebola virus.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/17/health/ebola-u-s-/index.html