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Title: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: elan on July 29, 2014, 04:10:58 PM
Honduras to Host CONCACAF Under-17 Championship in 2015 (http://www.concacaf.com/article/honduras-to-host-concacaf-under-17-championship-in-2015)
 
MIAMI (Tuesday, July 29, 2014) – The Confederation of North, Central America and Caribbean Association Football (CONCACAF) today announced that Honduras will host next year’s CONCACAF Under-17 Championship, scheduled to kick off in February.
 
Two stadiums in San Pedro Sula will be the sites for the CONCACAF Under-17 Championship Honduras 2015, to be played from February 27 – March 14. Group stage games will be played in both the Estadio Olímpico and Estadio General Francisco Morazán, with the final rounds to be contested at the Estadio Olimpico, culminating with the final on March 14.
 
Honduras will welcome the region’s top youth teams back to Central America, following a successful 2013 Under-17 Championship disputed in Panama. The tournament will crown the Confederation champion at this age level, and qualify four teams to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup Chile 2015.
 
“CONCACAF has produced some world class youth sides throughout the years, with Mexico’s under-17s lifting the World Cup twice in recent years,” said CONCACAF President Jeffrey Webb. “We’re looking forward to seeing the next champions emerge from next year’s competition in Honduras – a country passionate about its football. I’m sure this will be a great Under-17 Championship.”
 
The 2015 CONCACAF Under-17 Championship will include a field of twelve teams: five from the Caribbean Football Union (CFU), four from the Central American Football Union (UNCAF), and three from North America. Qualifying in the Caribbean is currently underway, while qualifying in Central America will take place in coming months.
 
This year, a new format favoring development and competition will be introduced to the Under-17 Championship. The twelve qualifying teams will be divided into two groups of six, to play a round-robin format on the first five match days. The resulting top team from each group will earn a direct berth to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup, and a place in the championship match on the final day.
 
The second- and third-place teams from each group will be re-seeded into a four-team table, based on points obtained during group play. The top team from that table will play the fourth-ranked team, and the second-ranked team will face off against the third-ranked nation in a pair of one-off matches, with the winners of each of those two final-day games securing one of the two remaining tickets on offer to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup.
 
As with the recently announced CONCACAF Under-20 Championship Jamaica 2015, to be played in January, the new Under-17 Championship structure emphasizes youth development by assuring all twelve competing teams multiple high-level, competitive matches. During the CONCACAF Under-17 Championship Honduras 2015, eleven match days will feature triple-header action, with 33 total games set to be contested among the finalists.
 
A date for the official draw will be announced in coming weeks.
 
Mexico is the defending CONCACAF under-17 champion, having claimed the title in Panama in 2013. Mexico won the FIFA Under-17 World Cup in 2011, and was runner-up in 2013.
 
2015 CONCACAF Under-17 Championship
Dates:        February 27 – March 14, 2015

Location:   San Pedro Sula, Honduras

Stadiums: Estadio Olímpico and Estadio General Francisco Morazán

Participating Teams: 12
Caribbean Football Union: 5 Teams
North America: 3 Teams
Central American Football Union: 4 Teams
 
Number of teams qualifying to the FIFA World Cup: 4
 
Format: The twelve (12) teams shall be divided into a group stage consisting of two (2) groups (A, B) of six (6) teams each. The group winners qualify automatically for the FIFA U-17 World Cup Chile 2015. The second- and third-place teams from each group are re-seeded by group stage results, with the top team of the four facing the fourth-best team, and the second-best finisher facing the third-best. The winner of each of those two matches also advances to the FIFA U-17 World Cup Chile 2015.

Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: elan on July 29, 2014, 04:13:26 PM
What are our preparations? Do we have a team? A team in training? Any scheduled friendlies?
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: elan on July 29, 2014, 04:16:00 PM
U.S. U-17 MNT Head Coach Richie Williams Names Rosters for Nordic Tournament and Copa Mexico (http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/07/22/13/56/140722-u17mnt-nordic-and-copa-rosters)



CHICAGO (July 22, 2014) – U.S. Under-17 Men’s National Team head coach Richie Williams has named two rosters for the upcoming Open Nordic Tournament starting July 28 in Kolding, Denmark, and the third Copa Mexico de Naciones, which kicks off Aug. 2 in Mexico City.

An 18-player group will represent the United States in Denmark, with the tournament kicking off July 28 against host Denmark. A 20-player roster has been named for the third Copa Mexico de Naciones, with the USA opening against China PR on Aug. 2.

The tournaments overlap, but there are four players who have been rostered for both tournaments: goalkeeper William Pulisic, defender Edwin Lara and forwards McKinze Gaines and Elijah Rice.

The USA’s U-17 pool has had an unbeaten 2014 in international competition with a 7-0-2 record. The U-17s went 3-0-1 and defeated Turkey 2-1 in the Aegean Cup championship in January. In early April, the USA defeated Bosnia 4-1 in the Katalinski Memorial Tournament title match in Sarajevo, Bosnia-Herzegovina, to cap off a 2-0-1 performance at the event. The U.S. U-17 MNT then posted back-to-back wins against Croatia on April 8 and 10.

Among the combined 34 players involved in this two-tournament stretch, there are 23 who are currently registered with Development Academy clubs.

Two players advanced to the recently-completed 2013-14 Development Academy Championships. On the USA’s Nordic roster, defender Miles Stray was on Real Salt Lake AZ’s U-15/16 national runner-up team. Rice, who is on both U.S. U-17 MNT rosters, had a goal and two assists to lead Chicago Magic PSG’s U-15/16s in their third-place victory against Strikers FC.

The two rosters are mostly composed of players born in 1998, with the exception of defender Tyler Adams, midfielder Jonathan Gonzalez, defender Lara and goalkeeper Eric Lopez who were born in 1999.

U.S. U-17 MNT’s Open Nordic Tournament Schedule:
Monday, July 28: USA vs. Denmark
Tuesday, July 29: USA vs. Norway
Thursday, July 31: USA vs. Faroe Islands
Saturday, Aug. 2: Placement match

U.S. U-17 MNT’s Copa Mexico de Naciones Schedule:
Saturday, Aug. 2: USA vs. China PR
Sunday, Aug. 3: USA vs. Argentina
Monday, Aug. 4: USA vs. Paraguay
Wednesday, Aug. 6: TBD
Friday, Aug. 8: TBD
Sunday, Aug. 10: Placement match
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: Tallman on July 29, 2014, 04:24:48 PM
What are our preparations? Do we have a team? A team in training? Any scheduled friendlies?

Training sessions have been going on for about 4-6 weeks now. The sessions are held on Mondays, Thursdays, and Saturdays at Ato Boldon.
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: Sando prince on July 29, 2014, 04:27:04 PM
We should
What are our preparations? Do we have a team? A team in training? Any scheduled friendlies?

Good questions. Ah would like to know mehself
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: elan on July 29, 2014, 04:27:36 PM
Caribbean Under-17 Qualifying: Results & Scorers (http://www.concacaf.com/article/caribbean-under-17-qualifying-results-scorers-8)



2014 CARIBBEAN FOOTBALL UNION UNDER-17 QUALIFYING

July 18 – October 3, 2014

FIRST ROUND

GROUP 1 (at Les Abymes, Guadeloupe – Stade Serge Nabajoth)

Schedule

Wednesday – August 20, 2014

Cayman Islands v Jamaica

Guadeloupe v U.S. Virgin Islands

Friday – August 22, 2014

Jamaica v U.S. Virgin Islands

Guadeloupe v Cayman Islands

Sunday – August 24, 2014

U.S. Virgin Islands v Cayman Islands

Guadeloupe v Jamaica

GROUP 2 (dates & location to be determined)

Schedule

Day 1

Curacao v Grenada

Trinidad & Tobago v St. Lucia

Day 2

St. Lucia v Curacao

Trinidad & Tobago v Grenada

Day 3

Grenada v St. Lucia

Trinidad & Tobago v Curacao

GROUP 3 (at San Cristobal, Dominican Republic – Estadio Panamericano)

Results

Friday – July 18, 2014

Guyana 1, Barbados 1

Goals:  Keno Washington 61’ ---- Antone Greaves 49’

Dominican Republic 0, Antigua & Barbuda 0

Goals: none

Sunday – July 20, 2014

Antigua & Barbuda 2, Guyana 3

Goals: Javorn Stevens 30’; Dennie Henry 79’ ---- Joel Dick 6’, 37’; Keno Washington 90’+2

Dominican Republic 0, Barbados 2

Goals: Rajohn Hazell-Hawk Esworth 80’; Michael Forde 90’+4

Tuesday – July 22, 2014

Barbados 2, Antigua & Barbuda 0

Goals: Torian Went 34’, 57’

Dominican Republic 3, Guyana 0

Goals: Yeudy Marte 45’+1, 48’, 64’

Table

 Team                GP    W    D    L    GF    GA    P
 Barbados                  3    2    1    0    5    1    7
 Dominican Republic    3    1    1    1    3    2    4
 Guyana                  3    1    1    1    4    6    4
 Antigua & Barbuda     3    0    1    2    2    5    1

GROUP 4 (at Nassau, Bahamas – Roscow A.L. Davies Soccer Field)

Results

Wednesday – July 23, 2014

Puerto Rico 0, Martinique 2

Goals: Andrew Sainte-Marie 79’; Kendrick Agot 90’

Bahamas 0, Bermuda 4

Goals: Jerome Bailey 42’, 51’; Osagi Bascome 76’ pen; Kacy Butterfield 90’+3

Friday – July 25, 2014

Bermuda 0, Puerto Rico 0

Goals: none

Bahamas 0, Martinique 2

Goals: Mateo Ahlinvi 49’; Andrew Sainte-Marie 79’

Sunday – July 27, 2014

Martinique 1, Bermuda 1

Goals: Rudy Corteau 20’ ---- Oneko Lowe 8’

Bahamas 0, Puerto Rico 4

Goals: Marco Arocha 17’, 90’+3; Andre Rivera 76’; Alex Martinez 88’

Table

Team    GP    W    D    L    GF    GA    P
 Martinique    3    2   1    0    5    1    7
Bemuda     3    1   2    0   5    1    5
Puerto Rico    3    1    1    1    4    2    4
Bahamas    3    0    0    3   0   10    0
 

GROUP 5 (at Havana, Cuba – Estadio Pedro Marrero)

Results

Friday – July 25, 2014

Cuba 4, Dominica 0

Goals: Jansiel Blanco 14’; Carlos Borromeo 37’, 90’+3; Yosniel Gonzalez 70’

Sunday – July 27, 2014

Dominica 0, Suriname 3

Goals: Stefano MacDonald 17’ pen; Enferny Schmeltz 46’ pen; Renaldo Tolud 90+ pen

Table

Team    GP    W    D    L    GF    GA    P
Cuba    1    1    0    0    4    0   3
Suriname     1    1    0    0    3    0    3
Dominica   2    0    0    2    0    7   0
                            
Remaining Games

Tuesday – July 29, 2014

Cuba v Suriname

FINAL ROUND (at Haiti)

Group A Schedule

Friday – September 26, 2014

Barbados v Group 2 winner

Haiti v Best runner-up

Sunday – September 28, 2014

Best runner-up v Barbados

Haiti v Group 2 winner

Tuesday – September 30, 2014

Group 2 winner v Best runner-up

Haiti v Barbados

Group B Schedule

Saturday – September 27, 2014

Group 5 winner v Group 1 winner

2nd best runner-up v Martinique

Monday – September 29, 2014

Martinique v Group 5 winner

Group 1 winner v 2nd best runner-up

Wednesday – October 1, 2014

Group 1 winner v Martinique

2nd best runner-up v Group 5 winner

Match for Third Place

Friday – October 3, 2014

Group A runner-up v Group B runner-up

Final

Friday – October 3, 2014

Group A winner v Group B winner
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: Sando prince on July 29, 2014, 04:33:16 PM
Looking forward to see how the young warriors play. The youths from this team will make up most of the senior team qualifying roster for 2022, so I am curious to see the talent and how well they play as a team
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: Deeks on July 29, 2014, 09:54:58 PM
Allyuh want preparation. bring out the money!!!! Do you know how much it cost for the US to play in them tournaments. You know the amount of sponsor giving money to the USSF for football development. What are our business people doing?
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: AB.Trini on July 29, 2014, 10:16:29 PM
TTFA needs a Life Support infusion of cash. Just think if the government could ever recoup the millions of misappropriated funds  we could be ahead- how does Haiti do it ? One of the poorest countries out dey and Jamaica doing it?
Next source of lost funding- FIFA - doesn't FIFA allocate development funds to countries? Think again if all the funds that were allegedly steered away from our coffers could ever be recouped we may again be ahead-

Does business have a role ? Probably but more importantly our ministry of sports and tourism ought to collaborate to support our programs as the potential spin off from a national brand of our country could be immense.
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: Deeks on July 30, 2014, 08:11:30 AM
We should not worry about Haiti or JA. They are doing what it takes to get their teams ready. We may be "richer" than them, but is who want to put money in sports. Like I said before, those people with money do not have football in mind until the team rise from the ashes. They are not prepared to do the grass roots development. Maybe those with money want a substantial say in the running of football. That is up to the TTFA.

And anotherthing,  don't fool yourself to think that there are not very wealthy JA and Haitians. You would be surprised.
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: elan on July 30, 2014, 12:31:10 PM
Allyuh want preparation. bring out the money!!!! Do you know how much it cost for the US to play in them tournaments. You know the amount of sponsor giving money to the USSF for football development. What are our business people doing?

The USSF does manage their money "properly" so businesses have no problem working with them. It is not our fault that businesses do not trust the TTFA.

Our responsibility is to support the team, not the federation directly. We demand a U17 team, that's our job.
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: Deeks on July 30, 2014, 01:40:45 PM
Moral support is all fine and well. The teams need financial support. That means we have to support or not support TTFA.
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: elan on July 30, 2014, 08:31:29 PM
Tuesday – July 29, 2014

Cuba 2, Suriname 0

Goals: Carlos Borromeo 15’ pen; Serguey Campillo 46’+1

Table

Team        GP    W    D    L    GF    GA    P
Cuba         2     2   0     0    6    0    6
Suriname  2    1     0   1     3   2    3
Dominica   2    0     0   2     0   7    0
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: Trini _2026 on July 31, 2014, 11:32:15 AM
What are our preparations? Do we have a team? A team in training? Any scheduled friendlies?

Training sessions have been going on for about 4-6 weeks now. The sessions are held on Mondays, Thursdays, and Saturdays at Ato Boldon.

are  there any UK and US based players training with the U17 squad
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: Tallman on July 31, 2014, 12:39:05 PM
What are our preparations? Do we have a team? A team in training? Any scheduled friendlies?

Training sessions have been going on for about 4-6 weeks now. The sessions are held on Mondays, Thursdays, and Saturdays at Ato Boldon.

are  there any UK and US based players training with the U17 squad

I'm aware of one Canadian-based player.
Title: CFU Under-17 championship 
Post by: TdotTrini on August 15, 2014, 03:32:55 AM
Cooper’s U-17s head to St Lucia.
By Ian Prescott (Express).


No training camp but...

“It is the first time in my six or seven years preparing national teams that we didn’t have a camp before a tournament,” national Under-17 men’s head coach Shawn Cooper declared yesterday. 

“It is not  ideal conditions, but we are working within the constraints which the Association (TTFA) are under. We are making the best of the situation,” he said.

It is no secret that the cash-strapped Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) is struggling with funding issues. Recently affected have been the senior and women’s Under-15 teams and now, Cooper’s Under-17 footballers.

The team leaves tomorrow for St Lucia, seeking a spot in the final round of the CFU Under-17 championship carded for Haiti in September. It is a path to the Concacaf final zone of World Cup qualifying. 

The young Soca Warriors play  St Lucia, Grenada and Curacao  between August 20 and 24 at the Beausejour Cricket Ground, looking for top spot in the group.

“We are trying to work within our constraints because of the lack of resources we have,” Cooper added.

Cooper begins with a new squad, his former bunch having gone onto Under-20 level. His main concern is that most of his current players are new to international football and would not have also built the type of camaraderie which being in a camp develops.

“It’s the first time they are in a competitive environment, so we are cautiously looking to see how  our squad will perform,” Cooper said. “We are behind (other teams) because the other Concacaf teams which we hoping to qualify against have already been exposed to a lot of international matches.”

Cooper thinks his team has raw talent and is captained by W Connection’s Kareem Riley. It also includes Anthony Herbert, a top-scorer in the Youth Pro League.

Cooper is also excited by former primary school star John Rochford, the younger brother of former youth World Cup midfielder Jean-Luc Rochford. The team also has two young goalkeepers from Naparima College, who Cooper hopes will grow as the tournament progresses.

CFU UNDER-17 QUALIFIERS: (ST LUCIA)
GROUP 2 (dates & location to be determined)

Day 1

(Wednesday,  Aug 20)
Curacao v Grenada
Trinidad & Tobago v St. Lucia

Day 2

(Friday, Aug 22)
St Lucia v Curacao
Trinidad & Tobago v Grenada

Day 3

(Sun, Aug 24)
Grenada v St  Lucia
Trinidad & Tobago v Curacao

Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: Trini _2026 on August 15, 2014, 11:42:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/EucUlQy3AJY&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: elan on August 15, 2014, 01:48:24 PM
So should we also stay quiet and say nothing? No camp and we heading to a tournament. SMH
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on August 15, 2014, 02:05:38 PM
Shawn, yuh jes hadda hol' it down. Stay positive! Wishing RR well.
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: Tiresais on August 15, 2014, 02:09:47 PM
Real sad state of affairs, but wishing the boys luck! We have a chance prep or no prep :)
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: soccerrama on August 16, 2014, 08:16:21 PM
I want to wish the team all the best especially our 9 selectees (should have been 10 but star player Isaiah Hudson has asked to be excused). I also take this opportunity to congratulate W Connection's Under 16 team who won the Pro League Youth title this year, who on their return from Saint Lucia will be embarking on their historic Italian tour. All the best guys. Below is the list of the players, their Clubs, positions & date of birth. W Connection continues to make their contribution towards our National Teams at all levels.

NATIONAL UNDER 17 TEAM

Players/Clubs/Position/Date of Birth

Enrique Changiah (W Connection) GK 21/09/1999

Levi Fernandez (Civic Centre FC) GK 21/02/1999

Isaiah Garcia (W Connection) RB 22/04/1998

Matthaeus Granger (St Ann’s Rangers) RB 12/07/1998

Kendell Charles (San Juan Jabloteh) CB 10/06/1998

Kierron Mason (W Connection) CB 14/08/1998

Keston Julien (W Connection) LB 26/10/1998

Shirwin Noel ( W Connection) CB 10/05/1998

Tekay Hoyce (St Ann’s Rangers) CB 17/06/1998

Travell Edwards (St Ann’s Rangers) LB 08/11/1998

Kareem Riley (W Connection) CM 26/02/1998

John-Paul Rochford (FC 1 Santa Rosa) CM 05/01/2000

Jeankeon Alexander (San Juan Jabloteh) FW 21/01/1998

Dereem Daniel (San Juan Jabloteh) FW 12/01/1998

Shakhun Hanley (San Juan Jabloteh) CM 30/11/1998

Jesse Joseph (San Juan Jabloteh) CM 03/01/1999

Shakeem Patrick (St Ann’s Rangers) RM 13/06/1998

Nate Brooks (W Connection) CM 24/10/1998

Shobal Celestine (W Connection) LM 12/10/1998

Anthony Herbert (W Connection) FW 18/04/1998
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: chelsealife on August 16, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
Nothing "National" about this team. This is a Trinidad select,, failure definitely no support from me :bs: :bs:
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: Sando prince on August 17, 2014, 10:30:22 PM
Not happy with the preparation of this team but I wish our team the best. Like I said earlier I look forward to seeing the talent on display, as well as how they play together as a team (yes even at this level). Remember these youths will make up most of our team for the 2022 World Cup campaign.
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: Trini _2026 on August 18, 2014, 04:51:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/Lvzww-iAkY0&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on August 18, 2014, 05:40:48 AM
There needs to be investment in drainage management ... too much water on that field.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on August 18, 2014, 09:31:12 AM
no Tobago players made this team!!!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on August 18, 2014, 10:20:35 AM
This team missed out on a top quality player based in the US.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on August 18, 2014, 08:35:42 PM
There needs to be investment in drainage management ... too much water on that field.

Asylum, you hah to be "mad", for you to come to that conclusion. TTFA should have invested in a turf-field for this kind of weather. Ooops! I forget. They have the COE.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: SWF Reporter on August 19, 2014, 09:52:50 AM
U-17 Warriors aim to hurdle obstacles on W/Cup journey
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868)


The Trinidad and Tobago national under-17 football team was brimming with confidence today, despite the shortcomings of the squad’s preparation, as the young “Soca Warriors” set off for the first qualifying phase of its Chile 2015 Under-17 World Cup.

“We’re going there with every intention of topping the group and moving on to the next phase,” said head coach Shawn Cooper, via a press release. “This is a good bunch with a lot of hunger to qualify and represent their country with distinction.

“We may not have had the best line up of warm-up matches but we got in some decent sessions and a couple games against local pro teams, which I think put us in a good shape for the tournament.”

Last year, Cooper guided the previous under-17 squad to the quarterfinal round of the CONCACAF competition before the Warriors bowed out to host team, Panama.

The manner of the team’s departure today was revealing of the issues that continue to plague Trinidad and Tobago’s national squads.

The players left in two groups for St Lucia—at 7 am and 1 pm—and without national gear.

The “Soca Warriors” are sponsored by Joma but the outfits provided to the team had no logos. It is a recurring theme for Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) squads at the moment.

There are, of course, more serious issues.

An unfortunate medical emergency denied the squad of the services of assistant coach Ross Russell and whittled the already undermanned technical staff down to just five persons: Cooper (head coach), Christopher Gouveia (manager), Gilbert Bateau (trainer), Ian Dore (therapist) and Devin Elcock (equipment manager).

Bateau doubles up as assistant coach while Dore will also act as goalkeeper coach and, presumably, Elcock will assist Gouveia with managerial duties when necessary. None of the technical staff members once received the agreed upon monthly stipend of $3,000 for their time and expertise while the players practised without adequate refreshments or training kits

This is the introduction to international football for Trinidad and Tobago’s 20 best players under the age of 17.

Regardless, this is the time when the teenaged men and their adult mentors must put the inadequacies of their preparation aside and do whatever is necessary to bring pride to the “red, black and white.”

Right back Matthaeus Granger, who is a St Ann’s Rangers player, told Wired868 that he was confident the squad will make Trinidad and Tobago proud.

“We have a good team and we are going to surprise people,” said the 16-year-old Granger. “We are going there to win.”

Trinidad and Tobago faces Grenada in its opening Caribbean Football Union (CFU) fixture on Wednesday at the Beausejour Stadium while the young Warriors will tackle Curacao on August 22 and host St Lucia on August 24.

Grenada, Curacao and St Lucia all participated in the inaugural 2013 CONCACAF Under-15 competition, which Trinidad and Tobago forfeited due to a lack of funding. Curacao eliminated the Warriors at under-20 level in 2012 and Cooper’s men have a chance for revenge.

Only the group winners are assured of advancing to the next stage while the two best runner-ups from all five Caribbean qualifying groups will join them.

The Trinidad and Tobago squad is captained by DIRECTV W Connection midfielder Kareem Riley who is one of nine Connection players in the national youth team.

San Juan Jabloteh and St Ann’s Rangers are also very well represented with five and four players respectively within Cooper’s ranks while FC Santa Rosa and Point Fortin Civic contributed one pick each.

Connection might have easily had 10 players in the travelling squad. Cooper explained that teenaged attacker Isaiah Hudson was declared unavailable and there was the suggestion that the left-sided attacker was about to go on trial.

Connection president David John Williams confirmed that he asked for Hudson to be excused from the international tournament but declined to give a reason.

“We asked for Isaiah to be excused from this round of the tournament,” said Williams. “I would rather not say why right now. But he is not on trial or going on any trial.”

Trinidad and Tobago Under-17 squad:

Goalkeepers: Enrique Changiah (W Connection), Levi Fernandez (Point Fortin Civic);

Defenders: Isaiah Garcia, Kierron Mason, Shirwin Noel, Keston Julien (all W Connection), Matthaeus Granger, Tekay Hoyce, Travell Edwards (all St Ann’s Rangers), Kendell Charles (San Juan Jabloteh);

Midfielders: Kareem Riley, Nate Brooks, Shobal Celestine (all W Connection), John-Paul Rochford (FC Santa Rosa), Shakhun Hanley, Jesse Joseph (both San Juan Jabloteh), Shakeem Patrick (St Ann’s Rangers);

Forwards: Dereem Daniel, Jeankeon Alexander (both San Juan Jabloteh), Anthony Herbert (W Connection).

Technical staff:

Shawn Cooper (head coach), Christopher Gouveia (manager), Gilbert Bateau (trainer), Ian Dore (therapist), Devin Elcock (equipment manager).

CFU Group 2 Fixtures
(Beausejour Stadium, St Lucia)

August 20

Trinidad and Tobago vs Grenada, 6 pm;

St. Lucia vs Curacao, 8 pm;

August 22

Curacao vs Trinidad and Tobago, 6 pm;

St. Lucia vs Grenada, 8 pm;

August 24

Grenada vs Curacao, 6 pm;

St. Lucia vs Trinidad & Tobago, 8 pm.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Bakes on August 19, 2014, 11:13:07 AM
Good luck Young Warriors  :beermug:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: royal on August 20, 2014, 06:00:01 PM
T&T leading Grenada 1-0
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: royal on August 20, 2014, 06:42:10 PM
T&T leading Grenada 1-0

now 2-0
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: royal on August 20, 2014, 06:48:47 PM
 Trinidad and Tobago Men's Under 17 team defeated Grenada 2-0 in their opening match in St Lucia. Dareem Daniel scored in the 65th minute to follow up Tekay Hoyce's first half strike.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: dreamer on August 20, 2014, 07:36:53 PM
Well done young Warriors. Each win builds confidence
Go brave as you proceed to the next game
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Mose on August 21, 2014, 09:53:48 AM
Weren't we supposed to be playing St Lucia first?

Cooper’s U-17s head to St Lucia.
By Ian Prescott (Express).

...

CFU UNDER-17 QUALIFIERS: (ST LUCIA)
GROUP 2 (dates & location to be determined)

Day 1

(Wednesday,  Aug 20)
Curacao v Grenada
Trinidad & Tobago v St. Lucia

Day 2

(Friday, Aug 22)
St Lucia v Curacao
Trinidad & Tobago v Grenada

Day 3

(Sun, Aug 24)
Grenada v St  Lucia
Trinidad & Tobago v Curacao


Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on August 22, 2014, 08:02:56 AM
Well done Young Warriors. Stay motivated and focused
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on August 22, 2014, 05:21:37 PM
HALF-TIME: T&T Men’s U-17 lead Curacao 1-0 on a penalty by W-Connection’s Kierron Mason.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on August 22, 2014, 06:56:45 PM
FULL TIME: T&T Men’s U-17 2-0 Curacao Men’s U-17. Goals were scored by Kierron Mason and Shobal Celestine.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tiresais on August 23, 2014, 03:30:39 AM
Nice work, Curacao (well, the ABCs in general) has come on strong in previous years so good solid win there
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on August 23, 2014, 01:46:25 PM
St Lucia and Trinidad & Tobago leads Group 2 with Six Points Each
http://www.cfufootball.org/index.php/latest-news/9482-st-lucia-and-trinidad-tobago-leads-group-2-with-six-points-each

St Lucia and Trinidad and Tobago share six points as action continues in Group 2 of the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) 2014 Men’s Under 17 Qualifiers which is currently in progress in St Lucia at the Beausejour Cricket Ground, in St Lucia. In games played yesterday St Lucia beat Grenada 4-0 and Trinidad and Tobago stopped Curacao 2-0.

The creative Nyrone Winter scored in the 15th ending the first half 1-0. However, in the 50th minute Winter netted his second goal of the game.

This was followed by a goal from Cassius Joseph in the 67th minute and Phillip Albertine in the 87th to end the game 4-0.

Kierron Mason and Shobal Celestine scored in the 47th and 84th minute respectively for Trinidad and Tobago. Games are scheduled to continue on Sunday, August 24 when the winner will be separated from the Group and qualify for the final rounds set for September.

Grenada plays Curacao 6:00pm and St Lucia meets Trinidad and Tobago at 8:00pm
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: dreamer on August 24, 2014, 01:10:20 PM
Go for it young Warriors. St Lucia could be a challenge
You all are doing well and trying hard. We are proud of you and coach.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on August 24, 2014, 06:15:03 PM
Any news on the final score?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: soccerrama on August 24, 2014, 07:46:10 PM
T&T 3   St Lucia 1  with 15 mins to go
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: dreamer on August 24, 2014, 08:06:44 PM
Well done young Warriors.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on August 24, 2014, 08:11:02 PM
Any news on the final score?

Thanks soccerrama! Good show T&T
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: soccerrama on August 24, 2014, 08:14:35 PM
T&T 3     St. Lucia 2 (close call...phew!!!)

Final score

Well done guys!!!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on August 24, 2014, 08:46:14 PM
T&T 3     St. Lucia 2 (close call...phew!!!)

Final score

Well done guys!!!

TT? and St. Lucia?  :rotfl: Like yuh running from Sam early.  :devil:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on August 24, 2014, 09:18:21 PM

Didn't see much of T&T performance in this round but still Congrats on getting the job done in St Lucia  :beermug:

Not sure who we will be playing next in this Caribbean tournament but I expect nothing short of a win and good team football. We have to meet the standards if we want to be serious about WC qualification
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Soccerpro on August 25, 2014, 06:35:46 PM
I feel sorry for the players and staff after reading about the lack of support from your F.A. As a Canadian supporter, maybe I won't complain as much about our program, as things could always be more challenging in some areas.

Good luck.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on August 25, 2014, 08:04:58 PM
I feel sorry for the players and staff after reading about the lack of support from your F.A. As a Canadian supporter, maybe I won't complain as much about our program, as things could always be more challenging in some areas.

Good luck.

The problen is not so much the lack of support from the FA. The problem is the FA inability to get the business entities to assist in football development. We have oil and petrochemical, steel mill and a host of large to medium size companies who make handsome profits doing business in TT. Somewhere along the the line, this new admin. has not garner their support. The verdict is still out.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on September 23, 2014, 03:37:55 PM
CFU change the date of the U-17 in Haiti. Now the 17th Oct.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on September 23, 2014, 03:45:32 PM
CFU change the date of the U-17 in Haiti. Now the 17th Oct.

Dry so? Dem good yes. Ent we was supposed to go to Haiti tomorrow?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: truehaitian on September 24, 2014, 11:16:13 PM
The games are scheduled to play tomorrow in Haiti. . Where do you guys get this info about the U-17 games being canceled
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: presspass on September 25, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
First match will be played on October 19. Of course the CFU puts out a notice about the new fixtures the night before the tournament was originally set to kick off.
Also, apparently T&T will play St Lucia first and not Barbados.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on September 26, 2014, 02:04:06 AM
CFU U-17 Championship postponed to October 19.
By Andrew  Gioannetti (Guardian).


The Caribbean Football Union’s (CFU) Under-17 Championship, which was originally scheduled to kick off today, in Haiti, has been delayed at least for a further three weeks.

The T&T Football Association (TTFA) received a notice of a change in dates on Sunday. In its notice, the CFU said the U-17 tournament has been rescheduled to October 17-26, adding, “We (CFU) are still awaiting information from the host regarding accommodation, game time, etc. We will forward all outstanding information including fixtures once we receive all outstanding from the host (Haiti).”

The Trinidad Guardian contacted the CFU via e-mail to query the cause for the delay.

CFU acting general secretary Damien Hughes later responded saying he was unaware of any postponement to the tournament, suggesting that the tournament was always scheduled to play in mid-October.

“The only information that I am aware that has been slow in getting to Participating Member Associations is information from the Host Country related to host hotels, practice fields, etc,” he said.

Up to press time last evening, Concacaf’s website maintained that the final round of qualifiers (the CFU U-17 Championship) were to begin tonight in Haiti, while the CFU website gave no notice as to the original start date nor the rescheduled date of the competition.

Meanwhile, T&T’s U-17 footballers came out of their live-in camp on Sunday after three days. According to team manager, Chistopher Govia, the technical staff will use the opportunity to keep an eye on the national players and their form while they participate in the ongoing Secondary Schools Football League.

The final squad has not yet been named and there is still an opportunity for head coach Shawn Cooper to make changes from the team that spent the weekend in camp. Last weekend’s camp was scheduled to fall a week before the start of the CFU U-17 Championships, but Govia said with the postponement of the competition, there is no guarantee of another live-in camp closer to the actual date of the tournament, due to the ongoing funding issues.

The CFU U-17 tournament serves as qualifiers for the 2015 Concacaf U-17 Championship, which runs from February 27- March 14, in Honduras. Five Caribbean teams will advance to the Concacaf tournament. If the latest fixtures are final, T&T will meet Barbados in the first double-header match on October 19. T&T will face Haiti two days later then St Lucia in the third Group A fixture, on October 23.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tiresais on September 26, 2014, 03:05:49 PM
*sigh*
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on September 26, 2014, 03:44:05 PM
(http://cfufootball.org/images/2014%20Men%20s%20U-17%20Fixtures-page-003.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on September 26, 2014, 07:50:45 PM
CFU U-17 Championship postponed to October 19.
By Andrew  Gioannetti (Guardian).


The Caribbean Football Union’s (CFU) Under-17 Championship, which was originally scheduled to kick off today, in Haiti, has been delayed at least for a further three weeks.

The T&T Football Association (TTFA) received a notice of a change in dates on Sunday. In its notice, the CFU said the U-17 tournament has been rescheduled to October 17-26, adding, “We (CFU) are still awaiting information from the host regarding accommodation, game time, etc. We will forward all outstanding information including fixtures once we receive all outstanding from the host (Haiti).”

The Trinidad Guardian contacted the CFU via e-mail to query the cause for the delay.

CFU acting general secretary Damien Hughes later responded saying he was unaware of any postponement to the tournament, suggesting that the tournament was always scheduled to play in mid-October.

“The only information that I am aware that has been slow in getting to Participating Member Associations is information from the Host Country related to host hotels, practice fields, etc,” he said.

Up to press time last evening, Concacaf’s website maintained that the final round of qualifiers (the CFU U-17 Championship) were to begin tonight in Haiti, while the CFU website gave no notice as to the original start date nor the rescheduled date of the competition.

Meanwhile, T&T’s U-17 footballers came out of their live-in camp on Sunday after three days. According to team manager, Chistopher Govia, the technical staff will use the opportunity to keep an eye on the national players and their form while they participate in the ongoing Secondary Schools Football League.

The final squad has not yet been named and there is still an opportunity for head coach Shawn Cooper to make changes from the team that spent the weekend in camp. Last weekend’s camp was scheduled to fall a week before the start of the CFU U-17 Championships, but Govia said with the postponement of the competition, there is no guarantee of another live-in camp closer to the actual date of the tournament, due to the ongoing funding issues.

The CFU U-17 tournament serves as qualifiers for the 2015 Concacaf U-17 Championship, which runs from February 27- March 14, in Honduras. Five Caribbean teams will advance to the Concacaf tournament. If the latest fixtures are final, T&T will meet Barbados in the first double-header match on October 19. T&T will face Haiti two days later then St Lucia in the third Group A fixture, on October 23.



Hmm okay
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on September 26, 2014, 09:01:47 PM
More time for preparation.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on October 17, 2014, 02:00:27 AM
Pres midfielder Riley leads national U-17s to Haiti.
T&T Guardian Reports.


A 20-man T&T U-17 team, captained by Presentation College of San Fernando’s Kareem Riley and including five players from recently crowned SSFL Premier Division champion school, Naparima College, will arrive in Haiti tomorrow where the players will challenge the Caribbean Football Union’s (CFU) U-17 Championship starting with another meeting against St Lucia on Sunday.

Just over a month ago, the team, coached by Shawn Cooper topped its qualifying group for the CFU main event in St Lucia, by defeating the host nation (3-2) as well as Grenada and Curacao (both 2-0). The tournament was originally carded to start on September 27 but was postponed for three weeks to accommodate the CFU senior men’s qualifying event.

The final squad was made public yesterday by the T&T Football Association (TTFA) at a media briefing at its office located at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Port-of-Spain.

Among the players coming off a victorious campaign with Naparima are: Enrique Changiah, Levi Fernandez, Kierron Mason, Shobel Celestin and 14-year-old Isaiah Hudson, one of only two players (John-Paul Rochford the other) born in the year 2000.

Speaking yesterday, Cooper said he was comfortable with the players in his squad: “We have a balanced team which I think is ready for the challenge ahead.

“We had a break since the last tournament in St Lucia and we had the guys going back to play in the Secondary Schools Football League. But we kept the preparations going and we’ve done the best that we can to prepare at this stage. You can do all the preparation possible and still fail on the day if you don’t execute as we’ve seen teams with much more resources than us fail to qualify for World Cups in the past.”

T&T will face St Lucia in the first match on Sunday from 5 pm, then Barbados two days later at the same time. In the final Group A match, T&T will meet the host nation, Haiti, from 7.30pm on Thursday. Group B features Guadeloupe, Martinique, Cuba and Jamaica.

T&T will be seeking to top the group as that feat will assure it, along with the top team in Group B, an automatic spot at February’s Concacaf Under-17 Championship, which will be staged in Honduras. The best second placed finisher from the two groups will also advance to the final round of Concacaf’s World Cup qualifiers directly. At the Concacaf Championship, the four best teams will qualify for the Fifa Under-17 World Cup 2015, in Chile.

Squad

Enrique Changiah, Levi Fernandez, Isaiah Hudson, Kierron Mason, Shobal Celestin (Naparima College), Darnell Hospedales, Shirwin Noel, Kareem Riley, Keston Julien, Nate Brooks (Presentation College), Travell Edwards, Tekay Hoyce (East Mucurapo), Kendell Charles, Dareem Daniel (Trinity East), Sharkell Louison (Moruga Secondary), Jeankeon Alexander (San Juan North), Matthaeus Grander (St Anthony’s College), John-Paul Rochford (Queen’s Royal College), John-Michael Herrera (Fatima College), Anthony Herbert (St Benedict’s)

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: trini_stallion on October 17, 2014, 04:54:47 AM
No Levi...Corbin? International trials?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 17, 2014, 05:33:07 AM
No Levi...Corbin? International trials?

They are too old. To be eligible for the squad, your date of birth needs to be on or after January 1, 1998.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on October 17, 2014, 12:28:32 PM
OK youths go out and do the best for your country

Quote
“I’m pleased with what happened since the last game against St Lucia, in that we had a number of players leaving our shores to go to Italy with W Connection which made up the main core of our youth team,” Cooper said.
“So, they would have had a lot of good international games and they will bring that with them to the team. We have been going well,” Cooper added.
“I think its just going there, and being the best, and playing the best that you can.”

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/TTs-U-17s-off-to-Haiti-279511282.html
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on October 18, 2014, 10:43:36 AM
First game is tomorrow. Are we going to have separate threads for each game or we posting all feedback in this thread?

This T&T team can win this CFU title if they play team football and play to their full potential. I want us to win, I hope we will win
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on October 19, 2014, 10:37:31 AM

Any online links fuh de game later?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on October 19, 2014, 04:50:25 PM
T&T loosing 2-0 so far..

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: che on October 19, 2014, 04:56:54 PM
T&T loosing 2-0 so far..



 :frustrated:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on October 19, 2014, 05:13:56 PM
T&T loosing 2-0 so far..



Really? this is what happens when you go into a game thinking you are superior and thinking you already won the game before the game start smh

I hope we will still win this game
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on October 19, 2014, 05:23:42 PM
Any live links to listen to or watch the game?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 19, 2014, 05:26:06 PM
FINAL: St. Lucia 2-0 T&T
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on October 19, 2014, 05:33:40 PM
FINAL: St. Lucia 2-0 T&T
What the hell happened?!!   ???
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: che on October 19, 2014, 05:34:10 PM
FINAL: St. Lucia 2-0 T&T

 :cursing:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on October 19, 2014, 05:39:45 PM
Don't criticize the player may come on here and see the negative posts.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on October 19, 2014, 05:40:42 PM
What happened? The game is played on the field and not on some false sense of superiority.

I bet you our boys approach the game next game differently.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on October 19, 2014, 05:41:36 PM
Don't criticize the player may come on here and see the negative posts.

Part of developing into a national player who carry the load of the country on your back
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: socalion on October 19, 2014, 06:35:14 PM
Can we hold off and refrain from criticising  the youths  while they are competing @ the tournament,?  this is  the moment to support and encourage  the players and coaching staff should be now more than ever .   we  cannot lose sight of the fact the other teams are there  to compete as well with the same ambition to succeed ..  lets get behind the team / our youths  pls !!  wishing the best to our team for the remainder of the tournament !!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on October 19, 2014, 06:51:36 PM
Don't criticize the player may come on here and see the negative posts.

Part of developing into a national player who carry the load of the country on your back

Read above. I was being sarcastic to those who hold that mentality.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on October 19, 2014, 07:31:23 PM
Can we hold off and refrain from criticising  the youths  while they are competing @ the tournament,?  this is  the moment to support and encourage  the players and coaching staff should be now more than ever .   we  cannot lose sight of the fact the other teams are there  to compete as well with the same ambition to succeed ..  lets get behind the team / our youths  pls !!  wishing the best to our team for the remainder of the tournament !!

Are you serious? Are you really serious? What you are doing is fostering an environment where it is ok to accept and expect mediocracy from our players. This approach transfers all the way up to the senior level and then we wonder why our national team give half ass performances without fear of public and media backlash. Criticizing piss poor performances on any occasion does not mean you do not support the team. Stop encouraging MEDIOCRACY from our athletes.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Bakes on October 19, 2014, 07:41:32 PM
"Mediocracy"?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: socalion on October 19, 2014, 07:58:05 PM
Sando i won't  not get into / nor entertain no tit for tat   with  you  ... read it any which way...!!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on October 19, 2014, 08:54:12 PM
Can we hold off and refrain from criticising  the youths  while they are competing @ the tournament,?  this is  the moment to support and encourage  the players and coaching staff should be now more than ever .   we  cannot lose sight of the fact the other teams are there  to compete as well with the same ambition to succeed ..  lets get behind the team / our youths  pls !!  wishing the best to our team for the remainder of the tournament !!

Are you serious? Are you really serious? What you are doing is fostering an environment where it is ok to accept and expect mediocracy from our players. This approach transfers all the way up to the senior level and then we wonder why our national team give half ass performances without fear of public and media backlash. Criticizing piss poor performances on any occasion does not mean you do not support the team. Stop encouraging MEDIOCRACY from our athletes.

:beermug:

Regards Socalion's statement "we  cannot lose sight of the fact the other teams are there  to compete as well with the same ambition to succeed" I think our team need to realise this fact before the game rather than after when they end up losing because of the wrong attitude.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 19, 2014, 08:56:51 PM
FINAL: Haiti 2 (Denilson Pierre 4', Denson Ulysse 32') Barbados 0
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on October 19, 2014, 09:44:57 PM
Can we hold off and refrain from criticising  the youths  while they are competing @ the tournament,?  this is  the moment to support and encourage  the players and coaching staff should be now more than ever .   we  cannot lose sight of the fact the other teams are there  to compete as well with the same ambition to succeed ..  lets get behind the team / our youths  pls !!  wishing the best to our team for the remainder of the tournament !!

 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:


Are you serious? Are you really serious? What you are doing is fostering an environment where it is ok to accept and expect mediocracy from our players. This approach transfers all the way up to the senior level and then we wonder why our national team give half ass performances without fear of public and media backlash. Criticizing piss poor performances on any occasion does not mean you do not support the team. Stop encouraging MEDIOCRACY from our athletes.

:beermug:

Regards Socalion's statement "we  cannot lose sight of the fact the other teams are there  to compete as well with the same ambition to succeed" I think our team need to realise this fact before the game rather than after when they end up losing because of the wrong attitude.

The two of allyuh was at the match? How allyuh know their attitude was 'piss poor' or 'wrong'?

This T&T U-17 has been together little over 4 months, scraped together just weeks before the 1st CFU qualifiers. St Lucia U-17 has been training together for a year and a half since they were U-15s. St Lucia has played against the likes of Guatemala, Jamaica, and other CONCACAF teams at u-15 level, at the 2013 CFU U-15 Championships. The TTFA and the Ministry of Sport failed to send a T&T U-15 to this same tournament.  http://wired868.com/2013/08/15/late-sport-ministry-payment-kos-tt-u-15-footballers


The free money given away to the educational contractor of life Sport alone could have sent these boys on a world tour. Instead they get salt.

By all means hold the team accountable. But the players are not responsible for holding screenings well in advance, procuring quality international games, or ensuring international commitments are kept. That is on the TTFA/MoS.

We are long past the days when T&T could walk all over small Caribbean teams. If you fail to prepare then prepare to fail.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on October 20, 2014, 04:48:13 AM
T&T loosing 2-0 so far..



Really? this is what happens when you go into a game thinking you are superior and thinking you already won the game before the game start smh

I hope we will still win this game

For months now, I made the coach known about 5 top foreign players, the players contacted me and wanted to play for T&T almost a year ago,,,, he ignored it and then a month ago he querying when it was to late cause they didn't have Trini passports and first timers would have to wait a while to get their passports, so they ran out of time.

We had the same problem with Michael McComie and Angus Eve like we did with Cooper, who thought he didn't needed help, this is another problem with local coaches that they need to work on.. they feel asking for help takes away from their ability to coach and not recognizing they just don't have the talent on the team. The Under 17 team is lacking a quality keeper, Technically weak and physical slow team speed. Zero preparation & experience adds to the mix....

This is one of the reason why Derek King and Stephen Hart will always be successful, they not afraid to asked or say it as it is.... they are very logical...

A single piece of stick is easy to break, but put 6 of them together and see if you can break it now....

To be successful, we have to work together...

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 20, 2014, 05:16:54 AM
so the top two teams qualify and the best 3rd place ....i think move on ... we need to at least beat barbados and draw haiti ... btw why did he not pull them boys from school football
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: diamondtrim on October 20, 2014, 05:45:19 AM
We had the same problem with Michael McComie and Angus Eve like we did with Cooper, who thought he didn't needed help, this is another problem with local coaches that they need to work on.. they feel asking for help takes away from their ability to coach and not recognizing they just don't have the talent on the team. The Under 17 team is lacking a quality keeper, Technically weak and physical slow team speed. Zero preparation & experience adds to the mix....

Well said....

The U17 coach is poor at recognizing and identifying talent, poor at reaching out and poor at coaching.

The goalkeepers are weak to say the least. One of them doesn't start for his SSFL team regularly, yet he is on the national team. Pres Sando had a poor SSFL season, yet the core of the midfield is from there.

I wish the boys well, but sometimes its the coaching and administration that scuppers our chances.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on October 20, 2014, 06:29:34 AM
Nicholas double avenge St Lucia as T&T fall in CFU opener.
By Inshan Mohammed.


St Lucia began it's 2014 Caribbean Football Union (CFU) Men’s Under 17 Qualifiers in fine-style with a shocking 2-0 victory over Caribbean giants Trinidad and Tobago at the Sylvio Cator Stadium in Port-Au-Prince, Haiti yesterday.

A double from Noah Nicholas sealed it for the St Lucians over Shawn Cooper's men. Nicholas scored his goals in both halves with his first coming in the 25th and then completed his duce in minute 53 and, as a result took sweet revenge on the Junior Soca Warriors.

Just over a month ago in the preliminary round T&T defeated the host nation St Lucia (3-2) and then topped the group with further victories over Grenada (2-0) and Curacao (2-0) that send them through to second phase that is currently being played in Haiti.

Cuba, Barbados, Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago and Martinique qualified for the finals by topping their groups during the preliminary round, while St Lucia and Guadeloupe qualified as being the two best second placed teams, with Haiti gaining an automatic qualification being the hosts of the event.

In the other group, host Haiti also defeated Barbados 2-0. Denilson Pierre and Denso Ulysse did the job for the Haitians.

Today Group B action has Cuba taking on Guadeloupe at 5pm then Jamaica faces Martinique at 7:30 PM local time. Tomorrow, Trinidad and Tobago will look to make up ground when they face Barbados and 2 hours later Haiti will rumble with St Lucia.

T&T hopes of topping the group as that feat would have assured it, along with the top team in Group B, an automatic spot at February’s Concacaf Under-17 Championship, which will be staged in Honduras now looks highly unlikely. The best second placed finisher however, from the two groups will also advance to the final round of Concacaf’s World Cup qualifiers directly. At the Concacaf Championship, the four best teams will qualify for the Fifa Under-17 World Cup 2015, in Chile.

T&T U-17 team meanwhile is captained by Presentation College of San Fernando’s Kareem Riley and includes five players from recently crowned SSFL Premier Division champion school, Naparima College. Among the players coming off a victorious campaign with Naparima are: Enrique Changiah, Levi Fernandez, Kierron Mason, Shobel Celestin and 14-year-old Isaiah Hudson.

Team

T&T: - 1.Enrique Changiah, 2.Sharkell Louison, 3.Keston Julien, 4.Tekay Hoyce, 5.Kendell Charles, 6.Kareem Riley (capt), 7.Isaiah Hudson, 8.Kierron Mason (18.Nate Brooks 61st), 9.Anthony Herbert, 10.Dareem Daniel (16.Jeankeon Alexander 64th), 14.Travell Edwards (11.Shobal Celestine 46th).

Subs not used: - 12.John Michael Herrera, 13.Sherwin Noel, 15.Matthaeus Granger, 17.Darnel Hospedales, 19.John Paul Rochford, 21.Levi Fernandez.

Coach: - Shawn Cooper.

Referee: - Dwight Royal.

Results - October 19

St Lucia  2  v  T&T  0
Nicholas 25
Nicholas 53

Haiti  2  v  Barbados  0
Pierre 5
Ulysse 34

Standings - Group A

P  W  D  L  F  A  Pts
St Lucia  1  1  0  0  2  0  3
Haiti  1  1  0  0  2  0  3
T&T  1  0  0  1  0  2  0
Barbados  1  0  0  1  0  2  0

Standings - Group B

P  W  D  L  F  A  Pts
Cuba  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
Guadeloupe  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
Martinique  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
Jamaica  0  0  0  0  0  0  0

Upcoming Fixtures - Sylvio Cator Stadium

October 20

Cuba vs Guadeloupe, 5pm
Jamaica vs Martinique, 7:30pm

October 21

T&T vs Barbados, 5pm
Haiti vs St Lucia, 7:30pm

October 22

Martinique vs Cuba, 5pm
Jamaica vs Guadeloupe, 7:30pm

October 23

Barbados vs St Lucia, 5pm
Haiti vs T&T, 7:30pm

October 24

Guadeloupe vs Martinique, 5pm
Jamaica vs Cuba, 7:30pm

October 26

Runner-up A vs Runner-up B, 5pm
Winner a vs Winner B, 7:30pm

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on October 20, 2014, 08:02:35 AM
We had the same problem with Michael McComie and Angus Eve like we did with Cooper, who thought he didn't needed help, this is another problem with local coaches that they need to work on.. they feel asking for help takes away from their ability to coach and not recognizing they just don't have the talent on the team. The Under 17 team is lacking a quality keeper, Technically weak and physical slow team speed. Zero preparation & experience adds to the mix....

Well said....

The U17 coach is poor at recognizing and identifying talent, poor at reaching out and poor at coaching.

The goalkeepers are weak to say the least. One of them doesn't start for his SSFL team regularly, yet he is on the national team. Pres Sando had a poor SSFL season, yet the core of the midfield is from there.

I wish the boys well, but sometimes its the coaching and administration that scuppers our chances.

Good observation, Presentation College finished 10th and we have 5 players from them on the team.

St Benedict’s conceding the least amount of goals.

Naparima and St Anthonys scored the most goal.

St Benedict’s, Trinity East and Naparima only loose 2 games all season while St Augustine, San Juan North and St Anthonys lost 3 games each.

Presentation only won 4 games all season.

East Mucurapo were the worst team and finished last and we have two players on the team.

Moruga Secondary and QRC are not even in the SSFL Premier League and we have two players on the team.

I don't even think Moruga Secondary competes in the SSFL and QRC finished second in their group??

Speyside did very well, have not lost a game all season, same with Trinity College.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on October 20, 2014, 08:13:30 AM
T&T loosing 2-0 so far..



Really? this is what happens when you go into a game thinking you are superior and thinking you already won the game before the game start smh

I hope we will still win this game

For months now, I made the coach known about 5 top foreign players, the players contacted me and wanted to play for T&T almost a year ago,,,, he ignored it and then a month ago he querying when it was to late cause they didn't have Trini passports and first timers would have to wait a while to get their passports, so they ran out of time.

We had the same problem with Michael McComie and Angus Eve like we did with Cooper, who thought he didn't needed help, this is another problem with local coaches that they need to work on.. they feel asking for help takes away from their ability to coach and not recognizing they just don't have the talent on the team. The Under 17 team is lacking a quality keeper, Technically weak and physical slow team speed. Zero preparation & experience adds to the mix....

This is one of the reason why Derek King and Stephen Hart will always be successful, they not afraid to asked or say it as it is.... they are very logical...

A single piece of stick is easy to break, but put 6 of them together and see if you can break it now....

To be successful, we have to work together...



I think the coach's strength is the ability to instill some physical discipline and have the team play as a unit. His teams have been more competitive than others from previous years. However he and his staff are poor at recognizing and nurturing ability. And he has consistently failed to get beyond mid-tier CONCACAF teams. Perhaps its time for him to retire as u-17 coach.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 20, 2014, 08:15:29 AM
... how many age eligible U-17 players competed in the SSFL? Position alone in the final rankings may not provide a full guide here.

What I can state (and I made a previous post to this effect)  is that there have been prior U-17 teams (when Pres finished well in SSFL) that did NOT have many Pres players.

Let the discussion continue.
 
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 20, 2014, 08:21:33 AM
Good luck in the next games, Young Warriors.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 20, 2014, 08:24:53 AM
... maybe the squad was missing the "meddling" of Anton Corneal.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: chelsealife on October 20, 2014, 08:43:44 AM
There are @ least 5 Tobago players that are good enough for this team, to start. Just like when Rundell was overlooked @ youth level. Congrats to St. Lucia though.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on October 20, 2014, 08:51:08 AM
I think the coach should definitely go or be sacked if we don't make it from the group.

Good luck to the Young Warriors in our remaining games.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on October 20, 2014, 09:35:14 AM
T&T loosing 2-0 so far..



Really? this is what happens when you go into a game thinking you are superior and thinking you already won the game before the game start smh

I hope we will still win this game

For months now, I made the coach known about 5 top foreign players, the players contacted me and wanted to play for T&T almost a year ago,,,, he ignored it and then a month ago he querying when it was to late cause they didn't have Trini passports and first timers would have to wait a while to get their passports, so they ran out of time.

We had the same problem with Michael McComie and Angus Eve like we did with Cooper, who thought he didn't needed help, this is another problem with local coaches that they need to work on.. they feel asking for help takes away from their ability to coach and not recognizing they just don't have the talent on the team. The Under 17 team is lacking a quality keeper, Technically weak and physical slow team speed. Zero preparation & experience adds to the mix....

This is one of the reason why Derek King and Stephen Hart will always be successful, they not afraid to asked or say it as it is.... they are very logical...

A single piece of stick is easy to break, but put 6 of them together and see if you can break it now....

To be successful, we have to work together...



It have a quality US/Trini player that a MLS team snapped up for their DA U16 and after 2 weeks played with their U18. Cooper messed that up quick time.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on October 20, 2014, 09:40:03 AM
T&T loosing 2-0 so far..



Really? this is what happens when you go into a game thinking you are superior and thinking you already won the game before the game start smh

I hope we will still win this game

For months now, I made the coach known about 5 top foreign players, the players contacted me and wanted to play for T&T almost a year ago,,,, he ignored it and then a month ago he querying when it was to late cause they didn't have Trini passports and first timers would have to wait a while to get their passports, so they ran out of time.

We had the same problem with Michael McComie and Angus Eve like we did with Cooper, who thought he didn't needed help, this is another problem with local coaches that they need to work on.. they feel asking for help takes away from their ability to coach and not recognizing they just don't have the talent on the team. The Under 17 team is lacking a quality keeper, Technically weak and physical slow team speed. Zero preparation & experience adds to the mix....

This is one of the reason why Derek King and Stephen Hart will always be successful, they not afraid to asked or say it as it is.... they are very logical...

A single piece of stick is easy to break, but put 6 of them together and see if you can break it now....

To be successful, we have to work together...



It have a quality US/Trini player that a MLS team snapped up for their DA U16 and after 2 weeks played with their U18. Cooper messed that up quick time.

Who was that?

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Bakes on October 20, 2014, 10:24:37 AM
... how many age eligible U-17 players competed in the SSFL? Position alone in the final rankings may not provide a full guide here.

What I can state (and I made a previous post to this effect)  is that there have been prior U-17 teams (when Pres finished well in SSFL) that did NOT have many Pres players.

Let the discussion continue.
 

This is a good point... I didn't follow the SSFL season that closely ((a) because St. Augustine was mediocre this season; b) because... well SSFL is shit, we need to revamp how we look at that competition) but where the school team finishes or how it plays isn't the most accurate gauge of a player's ability.  He still has to play with his team mates, and still within the confines of his coach's tactics and strategy.

That aside, I echo the comments by socalion and Zandolie in saying we need to guard against unnecessary criticism of the players... these are 15 and 16 year old teenagers after all. This isn't to say that there should be no criticism, but at that stage of their development, these players will benefit the most from constructive criticism.  Bashing them will likely only have the opposite desired effect.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 20, 2014, 11:36:01 AM
T&T loosing 2-0 so far..



Really? this is what happens when you go into a game thinking you are superior and thinking you already won the game before the game start smh

I hope we will still win this game

For months now, I made the coach known about 5 top foreign players, the players contacted me and wanted to play for T&T almost a year ago,,,, he ignored it and then a month ago he querying when it was to late cause they didn't have Trini passports and first timers would have to wait a while to get their passports, so they ran out of time.

We had the same problem with Michael McComie and Angus Eve like we did with Cooper, who thought he didn't needed help, this is another problem with local coaches that they need to work on.. they feel asking for help takes away from their ability to coach and not recognizing they just don't have the talent on the team. The Under 17 team is lacking a quality keeper, Technically weak and physical slow team speed. Zero preparation & experience adds to the mix....

This is one of the reason why Derek King and Stephen Hart will always be successful, they not afraid to asked or say it as it is.... they are very logical...

A single piece of stick is easy to break, but put 6 of them together and see if you can break it now....

To be successful, we have to work together...



It have a quality US/Trini player that a MLS team snapped up for their DA U16 and after 2 weeks played with their U18. Cooper messed that up quick time.

ah the one the ttff contacted ?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on October 20, 2014, 03:15:40 PM
U-17s aim to bounce back versus Barbados.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Trinidad and Tobago’s National Under 17 Men’s team will have it all to do when they face off with Barbados tomorrow from 5pm after suffering a 2-0 defeat to St Lucia in their opening match of the Caribbean Under 17 Finals at the Sylvio Cator Stadium, Port-Au-Prince on Sunday evening.

T&T conceded goals on either side of the half with Noah Nicholas putting St Lucia ahead in the 25th minute and furthering the lead in the 53rd. T&T missed a chance to level the scores when skipper Kareem Riley missed a penalty as his effort hit the upright before the break.

St Lucia’s second goal appeared doubtful when T&T goalkeeper Enrique Changiah was toppled over by a St Lucian but referee Dwight Royal allowed play to continue, presenting Nicholas with the opportunity to tap the ball into an unprotected net.

T&T head coach Shawn Cooper, said his team simply did not deliver on the evening.

“We had one too many players having a bad game and it shows that something wasn’t right for us this evening,” he told TTFA Media.

“Things went downhill after Kareem missed the penalty. St Lucia were not to be taken lightly. They were not the better team technically but they played the game with more passion and it worked in their favour.

“Our boys just did not have it in them tonight. Some of them cried after the match but we’ll pick it up from here for the two remaining group matches. I think we’ll bounce back against Barbados on Tuesday,” Cooper added.

Hosts Haiti defeated Barbados 2-0 in the second game of the double header.

 The other group being contested in Haiti includes Jamaica, Cuba, Guadeloupe and Martinique.

The top two teams from each group plus the best second place finisher will advance to the CONCACAF Finals in Honduras in February from which four teams will advance to the 2015 FIFA Under 17 World Cup in Chile.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 21, 2014, 03:20:12 PM
HALF-TIME: T&T U-17 leads Barbados 1-0. Goal scored by Anthony Herbert.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 21, 2014, 03:29:22 PM
GOAALLLLL! T&T U-17 take a 2-0 lead over Barbados early in the second half courtesy a penalty by Tekay Hoyce.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 21, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
GOAALLLLL! Dareem Daniel increases T&T U-17’s lead to 3-0 over Barbados.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 21, 2014, 04:15:22 PM
FINAL: T&T U-17 defeats Barbados 3-0 on goals by Anthony Herbert, Tekay Hoyce, and Dareem Daniel. T&T will now face host Haiti on Thursday, October 23rd at 7:30pm.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: socachynee on October 21, 2014, 05:37:29 PM
Well done Warriors
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: truehaitian on October 21, 2014, 05:41:43 PM
Watch Haiti vs St Lucia now and T&T VS Haiti future game(s) here on this link:
http://www.totalmixradio.com/

Stroll at the bottom right and click  on TV monitor to watch games.
First half: Haiti 3 St Lucia 0,

4- 0 Second half
6-1(final) Haiti
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on October 21, 2014, 05:52:34 PM

Well done Young Warriors. Keep up the momentum and don't underestimate any other team in this tournament.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on October 21, 2014, 05:54:01 PM
Watch Haiti vs St Lucia now and T&T future game(s) here on this link:
http://www.totalmixradio.com/

Stroll at the bottom right and click  on TV monitor to watch games.
First half: Haiti 3 St Lucia 0

Thanks  :beermug:

I hope i can use this same stream for TnT future games in Haiti
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: frico on October 22, 2014, 04:41:43 AM
TT football from Seniors to Juniors is still un-predictable,something like Pakistan cricket,when they are good they are very,very good,when they are bad,they are awful.
Nice comeback anyway.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Bakes on October 22, 2014, 06:24:22 AM
Watch Haiti vs St Lucia now and T&T VS Haiti future game(s) here on this link:
http://www.totalmixradio.com/

Stroll at the bottom right and click  on TV monitor to watch games.
First half: Haiti 3 St Lucia 0,

4- 0 Second half
6-1(final) Haiti

Thanks for the link truehaitian  :beermug:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on October 23, 2014, 02:38:42 AM
T&T U-17s whip Bajans 3-0.
T&T Express Reports.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Men’s Under 17 footballers bounced back from their opening defeat to St Lucia, to whip Barbados 3-0 in the second group match of the Caribbean Under-17 final round tournament on Tuesday night at Sylvio Cator Stadium in Port-au-Prince, Haiti.

Haiti thrashed St Lucia 6-1 in the other match to lead the standings with six points ahead of T&T (three points) and St Lucia (three points). T&T now have to beat hosts Haiti tonight to move on in the tournament.

Anthony Herbert gave T&T the start they needed with a 14th minute item and Tekay Hoyce then converted a 50th minute penalty before Dareem Daniel, with a ripper in the 77th minute, sealed the three points for T&T. Goalkeeper Enrique Changiah also made a double save to prevent a penalty attempt by St Lucia in added-on time.

T&T head coach Shawn Cooper said his players knew they had to come out firing to make up for the opening 2-0 loss to St Lucia on Sunday. “They knew they had to dig deep because of that loss on the opening day. We regrouped and the boys went out there and executed well tonight,” Cooper told TTFA Media. “There is still room for us to improve our play but the confidence is back and I think we can expect a really good contest against the hosts Haiti on Thursday,” he added.

T&T’s opening goal came when Shobal Celestine beat his man on the left flank and crossed into the box for Herbert to head past Barbados goalkeeper Kishar Primus. T&T controlled proceedings going into the half time interval and doubled their advantage when Hoyce converted the penalty after Sharkell Louison was brought down in the box after a surging run goalwards.

Daniel then made sure of the win with a fantastic effort as he curled a left footer over Primus into the top right corner of the goal. There were good performances for T&T from 14-year-old midfielder Isaiah Hudson, skipper Kareem Riley, Celestine, Herbert, Louison, Hoyce and Kendell Charles.

T&T line up: - 1. Enrique Changiah, 2. Sharkell Louison, 3. Keston Julien (17. Darnell Hospedales 79th) 4. Tekay Hoyce, 5.Kendell Charles, 6. Kareem Riley, 7. Isaiah Hudson, 8. Kierron Mason. , 9. Anthony Herbert (14. Travell Edwards 79th) 11.Shobal Celestine (10. Dareem Daniel 69th), 18. Nate Brooks.

Subs not used: - 12. John Michael Herrera, 13. Sherwin Noel, 15. Matthaeus Granger, 16 Jankeon Alexander 19. John Paul Rochford, 21. Levi Fernandez.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Mose on October 23, 2014, 08:18:50 AM
If we beat Haiti and St. Lucia beat B'dos we'll have 3 teams on 6 points. What are the tiebreak deciders? Does anyone know?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: truehaitian on October 23, 2014, 10:13:04 AM
Goal differences always come first in CFU. Haiti can still finish first with a lost depending on the outcome of both games
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: palos on October 23, 2014, 01:21:18 PM
If this is a Trinidad and Tobago National U17 team, does this mean that there are no players from Tobago that are good enough to make the squad?

Anyone know?

Given the past, tremendous talent has come out of Tobago including our most successful footballer EVER so this makes Tobago players absence even  stranger to me.   

I'm not saying it's impossible...everyone goes through their little "droughts"....but I'm really curious about this.   

Thanks in advance to anyone that can shed some light.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 23, 2014, 01:50:25 PM
If this is a Trinidad and Tobago National U17 team, does this mean that there are no players from Tobago that are good enough to make the squad?

Anyone know?

Given the past, tremendous talent has come out of Tobago including our most successful footballer EVER so this makes Tobago players absence even  stranger to me.   

I'm not saying it's impossible...everyone goes through their little "droughts"....but I'm really curious about this.   

Thanks in advance to anyone that can shed some light.

As I keep saying, our scouting is not comprehensive enough. Yes, money plays a part, but we could do much much better even with limited resources.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 23, 2014, 04:46:32 PM
LIVE VIDEO STREAM: Haiti U-17 vs T&T U-17. Game in progress.
http://vaughnlive.tv/totalmixtv
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 23, 2014, 04:52:59 PM
GOAL (14’): Haiti U-17 take a 1-0 lead over T&T
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 23, 2014, 05:10:59 PM
score in the previous game ? any idea tallman ?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 23, 2014, 05:22:49 PM
haiti looks so dangerous on the attack ..
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on October 23, 2014, 05:23:13 PM
T&T: - 1.Enrique Changiah, 3.Keston Julien, 4.Tekay Hoyce, 6.Kareem Riley (capt), 7.Isaiah Hudson, 8.Kierron Mason, 9.Anthony Herbert, 11.Shobal Celestine, 10.Dareem Daniel, 15.Matthaeus Granger, 18.Nate Brooks.

Subs: - 2.Sharkell Louison, 5.Kendell Charles, 17.Darnell Hospedales, 12.John Michael Herrera, 14.Travell Edwards, 13.Sherwin Noel, 16.Jankeon Alexander, 19.John Paul Rochford, 21.Levi Fernandez.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 23, 2014, 05:25:52 PM
score in the previous game ? any idea tallman ?

St. Lucia 1-1 Barbados. St. Lucia had to come from behind.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 23, 2014, 05:26:02 PM
HALF-TIME (Caribbean U-17 Championship): Haiti 1-0 T&T.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on October 23, 2014, 05:28:53 PM
score in the previous game ? any idea tallman ?

St. Lucia 1-1 Barbados. St. Lucia had to come from behind.
Does this mean that we need to beat Haiti and that a draw will not be good enough because we lost to St Lucia?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 23, 2014, 05:42:21 PM
a draw  will be good enough to advance because its the top 5 teams from the caribbean competition . we can even more forward with a loss ... if results in the next group go our way
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 23, 2014, 05:43:35 PM
I hope Cooper step up his scouting after
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 23, 2014, 05:47:51 PM
2 nil haiti
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 23, 2014, 05:48:43 PM
our U17 boys cannot win this game man ...... that goal was just so soft ... and haiti looks so dangerous
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on October 23, 2014, 05:49:42 PM
2-0 .. Haiti...

They keep beating T&T down the center...

T&T defence just bypassing the midfield.

From defense to forward.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 23, 2014, 05:51:36 PM
We playing too slow and timid. Very lackadaisical, no hustle.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 23, 2014, 05:52:21 PM
2-0 now.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Cowen on October 23, 2014, 05:53:37 PM
We playing too slow and timid. Very lackadaisical, no hustle.

exactly
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 23, 2014, 05:54:27 PM
We playing too slow and timid. Very lackadaisical, no hustle.

 them all over we man ....
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 23, 2014, 05:55:05 PM
See fan support!!!!!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: madness on October 23, 2014, 05:59:02 PM
change the coaching staff for them youth man
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 23, 2014, 06:01:04 PM
3 nil wow .....
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 23, 2014, 06:01:29 PM
lord the flood gates have opened
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 23, 2014, 06:03:16 PM
why do they always play the ball back ? and they can go forward  ... steeeps let me go sleep yes ...
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on October 23, 2014, 06:07:58 PM
Coaching staff needs to go!! This is an embarrassment to our football reputation!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on October 23, 2014, 06:11:09 PM
Why are we passing around the ball in our half without moving it forward?
Which team is 3 nil down and needs to move into the opponent's half to score?!  ???

Haiti is now happy to run down the clock being 3 nil up and we are helping them!  :frustrated:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 23, 2014, 06:14:13 PM
haiti just sitting back ....
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Toussaint on October 23, 2014, 06:14:55 PM
Well, they are U17 kids who have probably never been in a stadium with such a large crowd cheering the opposing team.  Even though by Haiti standard this is a small crowd, for these kids it probably looks like a huge crowd.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on October 23, 2014, 06:17:51 PM
How many shots on goal have we had so far in this half?

I haven't counted 1 shot yet on the Haitian goal from our team so how do they expect to even pull a goal back?  :-\
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on October 23, 2014, 06:26:29 PM
That was embarrassing!! We lost 3 nil and couldn't even put in a shot at goal for the whole second half.

Coaching staff need to go, I am sorry to say.  :-[
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: g on October 23, 2014, 06:31:13 PM
Not good enough, let's bring these boys back and re-group
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on October 23, 2014, 06:33:17 PM
FINAL: Haiti U-17 3-0 T&T. T&T now waits on the outcome of the Guadeloupe vs Martinique game tomorrow to see if we advance to the 2015 CONCACAF U-17 Championship as the best third-place finisher.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 23, 2014, 06:39:52 PM
That is what lack of prep and also confusion in the school football causing to the Youth team. Some people say that better players are at home playing for their schools. So what must give to have the best players. This tournament is smack dab in the school semester. Usually it is in July/August. But contingencies must be taken when tournaments don't fall in the "convenient months" as mentioned above.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: FF on October 23, 2014, 06:42:24 PM
2-0 .. Haiti...

They keep beating T&T down the center...

T&T defence just bypassing the midfield.

From defense to forward.




Sound like the senior team before Hart..

Hallmark of many of our teams under local coaches. Coincidence?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 23, 2014, 06:43:52 PM
FINAL: Haiti U-17 3-0 T&T. T&T now waits on the outcome of the Guadeloupe vs Martinique game tomorrow to see if we advance to the 2015 CONCACAF U-17 Championship as the best third-place finisher.

Even if they squeeze thru as best 3rd place, they have work to do. Not ready for prime time.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: lefty on October 23, 2014, 07:19:22 PM
Hallmark of many of our teams under local coaches. Coincidence?

but were local coaches always this unimaginative and was masked by the talent stock of d 80 and 90s or like the player talent have they simply stagnated......because even Gally seemed unable to work with players dat didn't possess high levels of natural talent and football intelligence

jus seem like we coaches jus doh know how to get someting outa lil bit
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 23, 2014, 07:33:34 PM
jus seem like we coaches jus doh know how to get someting outa lil bit

Local coaches just need to be given the resources and adequate time to prepare their teams.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: FF on October 23, 2014, 07:47:20 PM
jus seem like we coaches jus doh know how to get someting outa lil bit

Local coaches just need to be given the resources and adequate time to prepare their teams.

Right... That's all.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: socalion on October 23, 2014, 07:50:08 PM
Ok Mr Shawn  Cooper  we await your report as to  what you think went wrong.....Can it be that  one of  the shortcomings is that your weaknesses as the coach has been exposed.? it's just a question?  we await  your response Coach cooper ..!! 
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 23, 2014, 08:04:56 PM
...
but were local coaches always this unimaginative and was masked by the talent stock of d 80 and 90s or like the player talent have they simply stagnated......because even Gally seemed unable to work with players dat didn't possess high levels of natural talent and football intelligence

jus seem like we coaches jus doh know how to get someting outa lil bit

The only thing yuh could get out of a lil bit is a lil bit more. Generally, that's typically insufficient to foster favourably consistent results.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 23, 2014, 08:18:08 PM
your weaknesses as the coach has been exposed

What are his weaknesses?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on October 23, 2014, 11:06:24 PM
This team is at least a year behind its regional peers in terms of preparation. Our players particularly benefit from quality international exposure and time together. Those are the consistent pieces in virtually every youth team success and failure in the last 8 years.

Coaching is obviously important. But Vranes and Corneal coach teams to a world cup. I dont think they were the absolute best youth coaches in the country then.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sam on October 24, 2014, 05:09:09 AM
I was really vex with de overall play of the team, they had decent moments, but you can tell they are not coach properly.

1. Continued making the SAME mistakes.

2. Coach did not make the changes to try and plug the holes, wether its moving the players around on the field or bringing on subs.

3. T&T number 10, I think, or the shortest player on the field for T&T in midfield was pissing on he self, give away de ball like 5 times.

4. De curse of T&T coaches, kick and hope, from defence to midfield, they have no other ideas on how or who to pass for. No change of play, nothing.

5. The team played with no plan and they needed to win.

6. Hard to believe these are some of the best players we have, ent have of this team went to Italy with W Connection?

We need to replace Shawn Cooper, once you have a coach who head hard like banga, you cant have him around, he sturbborn and not willing to listen.

Look at the difference Randy Waldrum made in 2 weeks.

So Deeks and others, stop BLAMING DE players alone, de coach is bad to.

This under 17 team just played 3 FULL international games a month ago.

Stephen Hart take de T&T job and took de team to de Gold Cup semi finals with NO preparations, he came here for two weeks before de gold cup tournament.

Shawn Cooper got to go, we don't need coaches who have de Angus Eve and Michael McComie attitudes, like they reach already.

King and Charles might be better youth team coaches.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: lefty on October 24, 2014, 07:37:46 AM
I doh generally like sam's delivery but, he is right, coaches have come in assessed what they had to work with and have managed to still get someting out of their charges, say what alyuh want, d plan in dat game never changed, the defense was disorganized, u could see d symptoms of the archetypical local coaching .....d hit and hope, zero press, isolated midfield and on and on..... even if u didn't have no time, d easiest tactic in books is sit deep and counter attack and that can be done without hit and hope football..........dis day and age and man still backpedaling cause dey doh want to get "shake" steups........u see it all d youth levels.............our coaches doh seem capable of critical or tactical assessment of situations......because d bad habits remain with our players until foreigners take charge or a trini with "foreign" exposure  :P
 it clear dat d players can execute proper plans even in a short space of time, our coaches just don't "think" football well enough
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on October 24, 2014, 08:11:01 AM
Haiti was always going to be tough game especially playing them in their own backyard however there is no excuse for TnT not progressing out of the group stage of this tournament. The first game loss was the nail in the coffin. (even if we squeeze out of this group with help from another team this has been disappointing)

If we want to be a nation that is serious about football we have to meet the standard from the youth level to the senior level.

Waiting for the tired same ole excuses
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Rastaman on October 24, 2014, 08:20:48 AM
Don't remember much of this kinda talk when the same Coach Cooper carried the last u17 to within one game of qualifying for the world cup. That team was well prepared and had the resources available to them to go far.....
This team ???
They could not even afford to come to Tobago to scout players.
 Not sure if they even had a camp before the tournament.
Not sure if the coaching staff is being paid
Remember this team also missed out on competing at the U15 Tournament

The failure of this team had nothing to do with players, talent, coaches/coaching ability. The change of administration was at the wrong time for this team. While other teams(U20, Senior and Women) have played together before, this team was playing together for the first time so they had nothing to build on or work with. Missing the U15 tournament was probably the biggest downfall.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on October 24, 2014, 09:41:20 AM
Don't remember much of this kinda talk when the same Coach Cooper carried the last u17 to within one game of qualifying for the world cup. That team was well prepared and had the resources available to them to go far.....
This team ???
They could not even afford to come to Tobago to scout players.
 Not sure if they even had a camp before the tournament.
Not sure if the coaching staff is being paid
Remember this team also missed out on competing at the U15 Tournament

The failure of this team had nothing to do with players, talent, coaches/coaching ability. The change of administration was at the wrong time for this team. While other teams(U20, Senior and Women) have played together before, this team was playing together for the first time so they had nothing to build on or work with. Missing the U15 tournament was probably the biggest downfall.

Correct. Some key players in the previou U-17s have been representing the country since 2010, starting as U-14s at the Zonal Copa in Buenos Aires. That is four years of international experience starting at age 14. Its no coincidence this age group is now the Caribbean champions.

Cooper is a decent coach. But his selection process is very poor. He has to address that shortcoming or leave.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: palos on October 24, 2014, 12:30:22 PM
Cooper is a decent coach. But his selection process is very poor. He has to address that shortcoming or leave.

Is this his team or was this team originally selected by others?

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on October 24, 2014, 01:41:24 PM
The selection process is one of the root causes of the problem, how can you go to Haiti with 3 players born in 1999 and 2 players born in 2000 while everyone else is playing boys born in 1998. One year makes a huge difference at this age. I agree some boys physically develop early but for international tournaments you need maturity, tactical awareness and proper technical development. Cooper changed 4 players from the team that won the group in St. Lucia, that may have had an impact but I don't know.  Furthermore, Cooper (TTFA) had access to at least 3 USA/Trinidad and Tobago players that could have played holding midfield or along the back four but opted to not select players that are currently in the starting 11 on MLS Academy rosters. Coincendently, another 2 players one a forward and another a midfielder are also eligible for TNT and are part of the United States Soccer Development Academy system.  Last point on selection, not one player from Tobago. A highly talented Tobago midfield player was in Trinidad during trials but was sent home before final selection after being told that he will not be part of the team. Is it a wonder that we produced nothing in the midfield. Let me clear, I am not saying that any of those USA/ Trinidad and Tobago or Tobago players are better than those selected but I am saying the TTFA and coaching staff should give them a serious evaluation considering the gaps in the current team. One thing we all have to respect that its kids we talking about and we do not want to tear down any of the current players, we are asking the coaches and TTFA to do a better job of screening and selection.

The sad part of the TTFA's ability to recruit the foreign talent is that its damn easy. The US Development Academy has a website with all their games nationally, they have a Winter Showcase in Florida every year at the end of November, they hold a Adidas Next Generation Tournament with all dates and locations on website. The irony is that Honduras, Mexico, El Salvador and other coaches are at all these tournaments trying to lure players to play for the land of their parents while TnT is rejecting these players. Mexico just lured the US under 17 starting wing back, where he has changed the country he is representing.

Another major problem is the lack of adequate preparation due to the funding by SportTT and TTFA; this is a larger problem that can't be addressed here. I am confident that the coaches have not been paid, that uniforms were late to arrive and hotels/meals confirmed very late. The size of this problem can not be understated, it is disgraceful that the wealthiest country in the Caribbean cant support its men and women athletes.

If Martinque and Quadeloupe provide a miracle, this MUST be a time for TTFA to look at the coaching, team selection process and financing before forming a team to send to Honduras in Febraury.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: palos on October 24, 2014, 01:53:00 PM
Good points Tobago28

The reluctance to recruit overseas based players is symptomatic of "Ricky Shakes" syndrome.

We are too small not to maximize our limited (compared to out competition) player resources.

But is TTFA we talkin bout where organization isn't exactly a forte.

Beyond that, there are also those around the football with agendas that run counter to the National team
Effort. In short, we are our own worst enemies.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on October 24, 2014, 02:20:11 PM
Cooper is a decent coach. But his selection process is very poor. He has to address that shortcoming or leave.

Is this his team or was this team originally selected by others?


As coach for the last 3 years knows the lay of the land with respect to the selection process. He attends screenings, holds training sessions, eliminates players, and has the final say on who he includes in his squad. This is his team. If a coach has a team picked for him he still bears responsibility for their performance.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on October 24, 2014, 02:43:35 PM
we will  qualify even if martinique wins by 2 goals .... not any more


                        PLD   W     D      L     GF    GA      GD  PTS
 Cuba         2   2   0   6   0   0       +6   6
 Jamaica      2   2   0   7   2   2       +5   6
 Martinique   2   0   0   2   0   5   −5   0
 Guadeloupe   2   0   0   2   2   8   −6   0


                                PLD   W     D      L     GF    GA      GD  PTS
 Haiti                      3   3   0   0   11   1   +10   9
 Saint Lucia            3   1   1   1   4   7   −3   4
 Trinidad and Tobago   3   1   0   2   3   5   −2   3
 Barbados                   3   0   1   2   1   6   −5   1
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on October 24, 2014, 02:58:52 PM

 One thing we all have to respect that its kids we talking about and we do not want to tear down any of the current players, we are asking the coaches and TTFA to do a better job of screening and selection.

If Martinque and Quadeloupe provide a miracle, this MUST be a time for TTFA to look at the coaching, team selection process and financing before forming a team to send to Honduras in Febraury.

Well spoken. National team selection at every level has been a disgrace, starting with the blacklist of 2006 right down the line to u-15. Clearly the TTFA faces serious financial constraints. But the selection process is not prohibitively expensive. A reworking of the process for Tobago alone will bring benefits that exponentially outweigh its costs.

I hope the new TTFA constitution grants Tobago fair power over its own development and allows stand alone exposure to other CFU/CONCACAF rivals. They could advance their football to the levels Guadelope, Martinique, and Antigua have attained. A strong Tobago squad incorporated into a T&T team would see us seriously contend for that 3rd spot in CONCACAF.



Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 24, 2014, 04:08:31 PM
First of all, I am not blaming the players. I just telling it like it is. They were not ready for prime time(yesterday). They looked lackadasical. Haiti was 2 steps ahead of them. Yes Cooper should take responsibility for the performance. He is the man at the helm.

 As far as recruiting overseas players, I think allyuh blowing allyuh cool on this. TrinbagoFA has recruited quite a few foreign-born players. I think most have been successful. But the onus is on TT to find locals FIRST. I am not saying we should not recruit foreign born. But the TTFF needs to spend more resources to scout the locals. And when they find a diamond in the rough, they should do everything in their power to have she/he develop into a gem.

Yes our local coaches need more knowledge in every aspect of the game. But look at the structure of Trinbago football for the past 30 years. Allyuh think local coaches could have functioned effectively in that past environment. There are local coaches who go abroad on their own and acquire knowledge but refuse to have anything to do with TTFF. They stayed strictly with schools, community and clubs. Hopefully when Tim Kee sort out the new direction of the TTFA, we will have a new TD, who will implement changes in coaching for the local coaches. By the way,  all of this takes money. So if allyuh know very rich Trinis who are willing to dispense some of their discretionary income, please direct them to the TTFA.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 24, 2014, 04:25:24 PM

 One thing we all have to respect that its kids we talking about and we do not want to tear down any of the current players, we are asking the coaches and TTFA to do a better job of screening and selection.

If Martinque and Quadeloupe provide a miracle, this MUST be a time for TTFA to look at the coaching, team selection process and financing before forming a team to send to Honduras in Febraury.

Well spoken. National team selection at every level has been a disgrace, starting with the blacklist of 2006 right down the line to u-15. Clearly the TTFA faces serious financial constraints. But the selection process is not prohibitively expensive. A reworking of the process for Tobago alone will bring benefits that exponentially outweigh its costs.

I hope the new TTFA constitution grants Tobago fair power over its own development and allows stand alone exposure to other CFU/CONCACAF rivals. They could advance their football to the levels Guadelope, Martinique, and Antigua have attained. A strong Tobago squad incorporated into a T&T team would see us seriously contend for that 3rd spot in CONCACAF.





I want allyuh to know that martinique and Quad. have always had good football teams. Ever since they use to tour and when TT go there, the results were always close. They are no johnny-come-lately in football.  Antigua is improving. That is good for Caribbean football. I don't think Tobago need to wait on Trinidaad for direction to develop their football. It have adequate men who have been abroad and know the ropes of coaching. This main issue is financing. Where are they going to get the money. THA??. Where does THA get their money from?? Gov't. Put 2 and 2 together. So if any rich Toabagonians ready to dispense with some of their money, contact them. The issue is plain and simple. Black people in Trinbago don't have no businesses to rely on. That is the friggin problem!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: FF on October 24, 2014, 05:36:53 PM
The U-17 team has qualified for the final round as the best third place finisher.
Guadeloupe has beaten Martinique 1-0.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 24, 2014, 05:38:45 PM
The U-17 team has qualified for the final round as the best third place finisher.
Guadeloupe has beaten Martinique 1-0.

Excellent news  :beermug: ... hopefully to be duplicated with news of the women qualifying for the WC.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: frico on October 24, 2014, 06:18:07 PM
Please,please don't let teams beat yuh,teams that we know,we are quite capable of beating.We should have learnt our lesson.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on October 24, 2014, 08:36:44 PM

 One thing we all have to respect that its kids we talking about and we do not want to tear down any of the current players, we are asking the coaches and TTFA to do a better job of screening and selection.

If Martinque and Quadeloupe provide a miracle, this MUST be a time for TTFA to look at the coaching, team selection process and financing before forming a team to send to Honduras in Febraury.

Well spoken. National team selection at every level has been a disgrace, starting with the blacklist of 2006 right down the line to u-15. Clearly the TTFA faces serious financial constraints. But the selection process is not prohibitively expensive. A reworking of the process for Tobago alone will bring benefits that exponentially outweigh its costs.

I hope the new TTFA constitution grants Tobago fair power over its own development and allows stand alone exposure to other CFU/CONCACAF rivals. They could advance their football to the levels Guadelope, Martinique, and Antigua have attained. A strong Tobago squad incorporated into a T&T team would see us seriously contend for that 3rd spot in CONCACAF.





I want allyuh to know that martinique and Quad. have always had good football teams. Ever since they use to tour and when TT go there, the results were always close. They are no johnny-come-lately in football.  Antigua is improving. That is good for Caribbean football. I don't think Tobago need to wait on Trinidaad for direction to develop their football. It have adequate men who have been abroad and know the ropes of coaching. This main issue is financing. Where are they going to get the money. THA??. Where does THA get their money from?? Gov't. Put 2 and 2 together. So if any rich Toabagonians ready to dispense with some of their money, contact them. The issue is plain and simple. Black people in Trinbago don't have no businesses to rely on. That is the friggin problem!

A well run TTFA should have more than enough financing to elevate Tobago football to at least mid-tier CFU. I don't know if the constitutional overhaul contains provisions toward that. A more autonomous Tobago that can hold its own against the likes of Antigua, Gaud and JA is long overdue.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on October 24, 2014, 08:39:33 PM
The U-17 team has qualified for the final round as the best third place finisher.
Guadeloupe has beaten Martinique 1-0.



Great news.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Spursy on October 24, 2014, 08:57:00 PM
These boys need better coaching.. they all over the place.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on October 25, 2014, 12:08:15 PM
I am thrilled that we got 3rd place, I know its not the option we hoped but we are in. I want to make a comment to Deeks because he said we make a good attempt to attract foreign players. I disagree with this, I will compare our attempts to Klinsmann who not only has challenged US Soccer Federation but also challenged MLS Commissioner Garber by dropping Donavan and bringing 3 USA/Germans to the club, albeit German black boys which pisses Americans off even more. But Klinsmann has been willing to challenge the Federation that employs him as well as tell MLS that they are not helping. I point this out because I wonder if our coaches have the same courage, even though they don't have Klinsmann stature in global football.

If MLS is a better league than our Pro league, then why wouldn't we want to attract our own within MLS Academy systems? By attracting the foreign based players we will actually improve the local talent because the standard will improve for us as a nation. The failure to bring in foreign players is a huge mistake being consistently made by local coaches.

I made an observation that I think we all need to consider when looking at the U17 team, it seem to be dominated by W Connection players. I am not accusing anyone of favoritism but other than Barcelona most clubs at any level do not field a high percentage of national team players. Look at the data:

The U 17 Team that went to St. Lucia had the following number of players from the respective Club:

W Connection           9
St. Ann's Rangers   4
San Juan Jabloteh   5

The U 17 Team that went to Haiti had the following number of players from the respective Club:

W Connection           8
St. Ann's Rangers   3
San Juan Jabloteh   3


My Haiti numbers need help because the Federation changed naming Clubs to secondary schools because of complaints of bias to certain clubs and schools. I don't know enough about the background of the coaches, manager and selectors to say that bias exists but I think the question needs to be answered by some of you on this forum that know better than I.

Please tell me whether you think part of the selection problem is that someone or a group of people have too much influence on the FINAL decision. Klinsmann can tell them to go to HELL but maybe Cooper cant.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: dreamer on October 25, 2014, 01:25:06 PM
Wow, great news that we qualified despite that performance. Many posters made good points.
1. Every chance to get more international exposure especially at youth level is a big big bonus for the T&T football teams in general.
2. Cooper will need to eat some humble pie and become assistant to a newly inserted coach or Technical director / coach like BraveHart
3. More scouting of foreign based for more talent to give the team a boost.
Dey damn lucky to get away with this. That shake up in Haiti was a good wake up call after probably feeling too good in the stunted cocoon of T&T schools' football. Young warriors, doh fret, we support you. T&T needs you for healing of the troubled national psyche.
Onwards to Concacaf.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: socalion on October 25, 2014, 01:55:05 PM
Well Well well ..... God must really be a Trini as the saying goes, but that aside  i'm happy for the youths and coaching staff   getting a chance opportunity to redeem themselves.. much work  need to be done no doubt about that before the tournament in honduras..... So to the coach  and his staff ,  mr shawn cooper  first up eat some humble pie  it's time to do some introspection   and make a serious analysis as to what ought to be done to prepare these youths for competition  come next year... you have ample time . put ego aside  and get the help needed as you see best fit . goodluck 
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 25, 2014, 06:09:49 PM
To say that the TTFA don,t try to recruit outside is disingenuous. Isn't Fortune US born. Like I said, I don,t have a problem with recruiting foreign born. I was trying to get my son to try out but it clash with school. it have players who only choose TT when their options run out. so allyuh don't come with this local vs foreign crap. We have to find that balance. And why allyuh always referring to local coaches ego. That is part of any  man's woman's character. Again, I am not saying that local coaches should not get help. All I am saying is that when they are given the chance, give them the resources that is given the foreign coach.

this tem needs help. and yes, I believe coach Hart should assist in preparing this team for Honduras. if this team wants to go to the WC, they should be in a camp with serious preparation.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on October 25, 2014, 08:00:02 PM
To say that the TTFA don,t try to recruit outside is disingenuous. Isn't Fortune US born. Like I said, I don,t have a problem with recruiting foreign born. I was trying to get my son to try out but it clash with school. it have players who only choose TT when their options run out. so allyuh don't come with this local vs foreign crap. We have to find that balance. And why allyuh always referring to local coaches ego. That is part of any  man's woman's character. Again, I am not saying that local coaches should not get help. All I am saying is that when they are given the chance, give them the resources that is given the foreign coach.

this tem needs help. and yes, I believe coach Hart should assist in preparing this team for Honduras. if this team wants to go to the WC, they should be in a camp with serious preparation.

Why should there be a balance though? The best 11 Trinbagonians should play regardless or where yuh live or how you are a Trinbagonian. Not so?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: amwood on October 25, 2014, 08:56:42 PM
I just don't think that there is enough talent on this team...I've seen most of them in the colleges league and there isn't anything that they are doing at that level to suggest that they can produce big performances internationally, I hv spoken to Cooper and I don't believe he went there believing that they were going to overwhelm the opposition...if anything I think he was hoping to produce a group that would outwork the opposition - a pragmatic approach.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: dreamer on October 25, 2014, 09:28:43 PM
I just don't think that there is enough talent on this team...I've seen most of them in the colleges league and there isn't anything that they are doing at that level to suggests that they can produce big performances internationally, I hv spoken to Cooper and I don't believe he went there believing that they were going to overwhelm the opposition...if anything I think he was hoping to produce a group that would outwork the opposition - a pragmatic approach.

Amwood. Thanks for your contribution. Clearly something is seriously wrong throughout the under 17 team, on and off the field and Cooper as the chosen leader might not have the leverage like Hart to insist what must be done a bit more right. Daiz thumbs dong right dey for him even if not all his fault. Sorry. The report you gave is a very scary failure of leadership and whether it is fair to him or not, he cyah handle it. In due course we will hear who else is contributing for sending a suboptimal team after poor scouting, selection, financing and training of youths. Maybe the TTFA was totally broke and they just said to themselves, " Let Cooper, send a caretaker team to Haiti and just scrape through, hope de socawarrior gyuls go qualify and save we with a windfall of money that will bail out all the other teams". Cooper, probably unpaid and hungry decided to keep quiet, toe the line and fake optimism hoping he could get a victory down de road some day and hit it big. Sigh.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on October 26, 2014, 01:45:56 AM
U-17 Men advance to CONCACAF finals in Honduras
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Trinidad and Tobago’s Men’s Under 17 team have advanced to the CONCACAF Final round of qualification for the 2015 FIFA U-17 Men’s World Cup after capturing the best third place spot at the Caribbean Finals in Port-au-Prince, Haiti.

After going down 3-0 to the hosts on Thursday, T&T were dependent on the result of the Martinique versus Guadeloupe match yesterday which the latter won 1-0. It meant T&T finished on three points with a better goal difference than Guadeloupe.

Speaking in light of the team’s passage through to the Final round in Honduras, T&T head coach Shawn Cooper was  grateful but didn’t hold back from expressing his disappointment over Thursday's result.

“I think the most important thing is that we are alive in the campaign still and we’ve got some work to do to get this team up to a level to be able to compete at the CONCACAF Finals next year,” Cooper told TTFA Media.

“We are not happy with having to sneak in through the back door in this manner but being in it still is something which we are grateful for and it gives us an opportunity to come better for the next phase.”

Cooper said he opted to play deep after 70 miutes after T&T conceded their third goal.

“I took a decision to play deep to ensure we didn’t concede more goals because Haiti were fully in charge of the game at that stage of the match. Our boys were overwhelmed by a packed stadium with the hostile home fans who definitely had an impact as the twelfth man. It’s good experience for our boys who haven’t played in an atmosphere like this before but of course it worked in the home team’s favour,” Cooper added.

“The early goals at the start of the second half killed the team spirit and threw us off.

“Now we will regroup. We have a few more players from the US and back home to get involved in the preparations  and we’ll work towards fixing the areas that need addressing. We conceded several soft goals in this tournament and this is a concern which we will address," Cooper added.

The nine of twelve teams already through CONCACAF Finals in Honduras in February include Mexico,USA, Canada, Honduras, St Lucia, Haiti, Jamaica, Cuba and T&T.

This timea new format favoring development and competition will be introduced to the Under-17 Championship. The twelve qualifying teams will be divided into two groups of six, to play a round-robin format on the first five match days. The resulting top team from each group will earn a direct berth to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup, and a place in the championship match on the final day.

The second- and third-place teams from each group will be re-seeded into a four-team table, based on points obtained during group play.

The top team from that table will play the fourth-ranked team, and the second-ranked team will face off against the third-ranked nation in a pair of one-off matches, with the winners of each of those two final-day games securing one of the two remaining tickets on offer to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup.

RELATED NEWS

T&T U-17s scrape into CONCACAF Finals.
T&T Express Reports.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Men’s Under-17 team have advanced to the CONCACAF Final round of qualification for the 2015 FIFA U-17 Men’s World Cup after capturing the best third place spot at the Caribbean Finals in Port-au-Prince, Haiti.

After going down 3-0 to the hosts on Thursday, T&T were dependent on the result of the Martinique versus Guadeloupe match yesterday which the latter won 1-0. It meant T&T finished on three points with a better goal difference than Guadeloupe.

Speaking in light of the team’s passage through to the final round in Honduras, T&T head coach Shawn Cooper was  grateful but did not hold back from expressing his disappointment over Thursday’s result.

“I think the most important thing is that we are alive in the campaign still and we’ve got some work to do to get this team up to a level to be able to compete at the CONCACAF Finals next year,” Cooper told TTFA Media.

“We are not happy with having to sneak in through the back door in this manner but being in it still is something which we are grateful for, and it gives us an opportunity to come better for the next phase.”
Cooper said he opted to play deep after 70 minutes after T&T conceded their third goal.

“I took a decision to play deep to ensure we didn’t concede more goals because Haiti were fully in charge of the game at that stage of the match. Our boys were overwhelmed by a packed stadium with the hostile home fans who definitely had an impact as the twelfth man. It’s good experience for our boys who haven’t played in an atmosphere like this before but of course it worked in the home team’s favour,” Cooper added.

“The early goals at the start of the second half killed the team spirit and threw us off.

“Now we will regroup. We have a few more players from the US and back home to get involved in the preparations  and we’ll work towards fixing the areas that need addressing. We conceded several soft goals in this tournament and this is a concern which we will address,” Cooper added.

The nine of 12 teams already through to the CONCACAF Finals in Honduras in February include Mexico, USA, Canada, Honduras, St Lucia, Haiti, Jamaica, Cuba and T&T.

This time, a new format favouring development and competition will be introduced to the Under-17 Championship. The 12 qualifying teams will be divided into two groups of six, to play a round-robin format on the first five match days. The resulting top team from each group will earn a direct berth to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup, and a place in the championship match on the final day.

The second and third-place teams from each group will be re-seeded into a four-team table, based on points obtained during group play.

The top team from that table will play the fourth-ranked team, and the second-ranked team will face off against the third-ranked nation in a pair of one-off matches, with the winners of each of those two final-day games securing one of the two remaining tickets on offer to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 26, 2014, 04:35:26 AM
Quote
“I took a decision to play deep to ensure we didn’t concede more goals because Haiti were fully in charge of the game at that stage of the match. Our boys were overwhelmed by a packed stadium with the hostile home fans who definitely had an impact as the twelfth man. It’s good experience for our boys who haven’t played in an atmosphere like this before but of course it worked in the home team’s favour,” Cooper added.

With these comments come the end of speculation ... Now that the coach's position has been expressed with clarity, I am interested to hear the thoughts and reactions of prior contributors.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 26, 2014, 07:15:33 AM
I have not viewed any of the matches ... any chance we have extended footage?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 26, 2014, 07:39:15 AM
I agree that the youths were overwhelmed by the Haitian fans support for their team. I disagree that they were hostile. correct me, I did not see the fans throwing things at our players, like we sometimes see in Latin America. the Sylvio Cator is the same dimensions of the HCS. the fans are distant from the field. I actually was envious of the crowd atmosphere in the stadium. singing and chanting compas Chantuelles. this is what we have lost over the last two decades.

but these dudes are fortunate to get another bite of the mango. they still have a chance to qualify. it is incumbent on the individuals to  be  totally committed to improve themselves when they go to Honduras.  whether Cooper or some of them will be on the team is another matter. let's see TTFA plans for the tournament.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: truehaitian on October 26, 2014, 07:32:28 PM
Haiti 2 Jamaica 0
Haiti, U-17 Caribbean football champion
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on October 26, 2014, 08:35:13 PM
Haiti 2 Jamaica 0
Haiti, U-17 Caribbean football champion
Congrats to Haiti!  :salute:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on October 26, 2014, 08:54:19 PM
Viva Ayiti
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 27, 2014, 01:26:24 AM
... maybe the squad was missing the "meddling" of Anton Corneal.

I'm "disappointed" that this comment has gone untouched. Allyuh doh take basket no more?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on October 27, 2014, 09:14:23 AM
Dude, we have matured  ;D !
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on October 27, 2014, 12:37:15 PM
Glad we get a chance to play in Honduras but there is nothing to celebrate or feel excited about at the moment
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on October 27, 2014, 12:47:03 PM
Dude, we have matured  ;D !

 :)
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on October 27, 2014, 08:57:46 PM
Some of those comments from the coach as to the outcome of the game  :frustrated:
Title: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship Draw
Post by: Trini _2026 on December 08, 2014, 12:59:48 PM
FASE DE GRUPOS
DÍA 1- VIE. FEBRERO 27. (ESTADIO F.MORAZÁN)

4:30   UNCAF 3   VS   TRI
17:00   USA   VS   CUB
19:30   HON   VS   JAM
DÍA 2- SAB. FEBRERO 28. (ESTADIO OLÍMPICO)
14:30   PAN   VS   MEX
17:00   LCA   VS   CRC
19:30   CAN   VS   HAI
DÍA DE DESCANSO
DÍA 4- LUN. MARZO 2. (ESTADIO F.MORAZÁN)
14:30   JAM   VS   UNCAF 3
17:00   TRI   VS   USA
19:30   HON   VS   CUB
DÍA 5- MAR. MARZO 3. (ESTADIO OLÍMPICO)
14:30   HAI   VS   PAN
17:00   MEX   VS   LCA
19:30   CRC   VS   CAN
DÍA DE DESCANSO
DÍA 7- JUE. MARZO 5. (ESTADIO F.MORAZÁN)
14:30   CUB   VS   JAM
17:00   UNCAF 3   VS   USA
19:30   HON   VS   TRI
DÍA 8- VIE. MARZO 6. (ESTADIO OLÍMPICO)
14:30   CRC   VS   HAI
17:00   PAN   VS   LCA
19:30   CAN   VS   MEX
DÍA DE DESCANSO
DÍA 10- DOM. MARZO 8. (ESTADIO F.MORAZÁN)
14:30   TRI   VS   JAM
17:00   CUB   VS   UNCAF 3
19:30   HON   VS   USA
DÍA 11- LUN. MARZO 9. (ESTADIO OLÍMPICO)
14:30   MEX   VS   HAI
17:00   CRC   VS   PAN
19:30   CAN   VS   LCA
DÍA DE DESCANSO
DÍA 13- MIE. MARZO 11. (ESTADIO F.MORAZÁN)
14:30   TRI   VS   CUB
17:00   USA   VS   JAM
19:30   HON   VS   UNCAF 3
DÍA 14- JUE. MARZO 12. (ESTADIO OLÍMPICO)
14:30   MEX   VS   CRC
17:00   LCA   VS   HAI
19:30   CAN   VS   PAN
DÍA DE DESCANSO
DÍA DE DESCANSO
FINALES
DÍA 17- DOM. MARZO 15. (ESTADIO OLÍMPICO)
14:00   2do VS 3ro
17:00   1ro VS 4to
20:00   1A VS 1B
Title: Re: CONCACAF Under-17 Championship Draw
Post by: Flex on December 10, 2014, 03:12:32 AM
Under-17s to face El Salvador/Guatemala in Concacaf opener.
T&T Guardian Reports.


This country’s Under-17 footballers will kick off the final stage of the Fifa Under-17 World Cup Chile 2015 Concacaf qualifiers when they face the winner of the Central American playoff between El Salvador and Guatemala in Group A on February 27 at the Francisco Morazan Stadium, in San Pedro Sula, Honduras.

The young Soca Warriors qualified for the Concacaf tourney, after ending as the best third placed finisher from the Caribbean Football Union Under-17 Championship in Haiti after losing to the host nation 0-3 and St Lucia 0-2 while beating Barbados 2-0.

In the previous round, T&T topped its four-team pool with wins over host St Lucia (3-2), Grenada (2-0) and Curacao (2-0) while El Salvador and Guatemala were second placed finishers in their respective Central American qualifying series. They will play their home-and-away play next month.

In the two other Group A matches on the opening day USA comes up against Cuba, and host Honduras closes out the afternoon versus Jamaica.

Reigning Concacaf and World champions Mexico is in Group B alongside Canada, Haiti, Panama, St Lucia and Costa Rica and will play their matches at the Olympic Stadium which will also host the final phase including the fifth and third-place matches, as well as the grand final, scheduled for March 15.

The tournament will crown the Confederation champion at this age level, and qualify four teams to the Under-17 World Cup. The top team from each group after round-robin play advance to the World Cup and the other two will be determined by the results of the final day elimination matches.

The new Concacaf Under-17 Men’s tournament format has increased the number of set games to five for each competing nation, up from two in previous editions of the Championship. The new format has been created to favour development and competition.

2014 CONCACAF Men’s U-17 Championship World Cup Qualifying
San Pedro Sula, Honduras

Group A: Honduras, Jamaica, El Salvador/Guatemala (UNCAF 3), T&T, USA, Cuba
Group B: Canada, Haiti, Panama, Mexico, St Lucia, Costa Rica
 
Tournament schedule:

Friday, February 27 (Francisco Morazan Stadium)
14:30 UNCAF 3 vs T&T
17:00 USA vs Cuba
19:30 Honduras vs Jamaica
 
Saturday, February 28 (Olympic Stadium)

14:30 Panama vs Mexico
17:00 St. Lucia vs Costa Rica
19:30 Canada vs Haiti
 
Monday, March 02 (Francisco Morazan Stadium)

14:30 Jamaica vs. UNCAF 3
17:00 T&T vs. USA
19:30 Honduras vs. Cuba
 
Tuesday, March 3 (Olympic Stadium)

14:30 Haiti vs. Panama
17:00 Mexico vs. St. Lucia
19:30 Canada vs. Costa Rica
 
Thursday, March 5 (Francisco Morazan Stadium)

14:30 Cuba vs. Jamaica
17:00 UNCAF 3 vs. USA
19:30 Honduras vs. T&T
 
Friday, March 6 (Olympic Stadium)

14:30 Costa Rica vs. Haiti
17:00 Panama vs. St. Lucia
19:30 Canada vs. México

Sunday, March 8 (Francisco Morazan Stadium)

14:30 T&T vs. Jamaica
17:00 Cuba vs UNICAF 3
19:30 Honduras vs. USA
 
Monday, March 9 (Olympic Stadium)

14:30 Mexico vs. Haiti
17:00 Costa Rica vs. Panama
19:30 Canada vs. St. Lucia
 
Wednesday, March 11 (Francisco Morazan Stadium)

14:30 T&T vs. Cuba
17:00 USA vs. Jamaica
19:30 Honduras vs. UNCAF 3
 
Thursday, March 12 (Olympic Stadium)

14:30 Mexico vs. Costa Rica
17:00 St. Lucia vs. Haiti
19:30 Canada vs. Panama
 
Sunday, March 15 (Olympic Stadium)

14:00 2nd vs. 3rd
17:00 1st vs. 4th
20:00 1A vs. 1B.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on December 11, 2014, 02:51:10 AM
Coach pleased with the draw
T&T Express Reports.


NATIONAL Men’s Under-17 team head coach Shawn Cooper believes this country has received a favourable draw for the final round of CONCACAF qualification for the 2015 FIFA Under-17 Men’s World Cup.

Cooper and team manager Christopher Gouveia attended the draw in San Pedro Sula in Honduras on Monday, which saw T&T placed in Group A alongside Caribbean rivals Jamaica and Cuba, United States and hosts Honduras, as well as a third Central American nation. Group B contains Canada, Haiti, Panama, Mexico, St Lucia and Costa Rica.

T&T will kick off the tournament on February 27 against the yet to be determined Central American country. They then face USA on March 2, Honduras on March 5, Jamaica on March 8 and Cuba on March 11.

“I think this is the best possible draw you can ask for as a coach. We were placed in a group with two other Caribbean teams which makes the draw a favourable one, as we’ve done reasonably well against them in recent times,” Cooper told TTFA media.

Cooper said the opportunity was used in San Pedro Sula to discuss training matches against some of the other competing teams.

“We have some time to chart our course going into the tournament. We will have a better idea of what funding is available to us and we have already held discussions with some teams about playing practice matches before the tournament.

“Playing only against professional teams at home will not be sufficient for us as we need to have the players exposed to playing international teams, especially away from home, so as to get a better feel of what it takes to take on these challenges,” Cooper added.

The new CONCACAF Under-17 Men’s tournament format has increased the number of set games to five for each competing nation, up from two in previous editions of the championship. The new format has been created to favour development and competition.

The tournament will crown the Confederation champion at this age level, and qualify four teams to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup in Chile 2015. The top team from each group, after round-robin play, will advance to the World Cup and the other two will be determined by the results of the final-day elimination matches.

The Olympic and Francisco Morazan stadiums will each play host to group phase matches, with the opening match to be played at the Morazan Stadium on February 27.

The Olympic Stadium will host Group B and the final phase including the fifth and third-place matches, as well as the grand final, scheduled for March 15.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on December 24, 2014, 08:46:35 AM
'Good football'

JAMAICA Under-17 head coach Andrew Edwards is satisfied with his team's readiness for the CONCACAF World Cup qualifiers after they won three of their four matches in the Youth Soccer Classic in Fort Lauderdale last week.

The young Reggae Boyz defeated Boca U-19 5-4; Brazil Select Under-19 4-2 and Plantation Academy Under-19 4-1 en route to the final where they lost 1-4 penalties to Miramar Under-19 after playing to a 2-2 draw in normal time.

"We are very happy with what transpired. The boys showed some really good play, especially in the third game on Saturday night. We played some really good football. I was very impressed with our level of play and the speed of play," Edwards told the Jamaica Observer.

"I think it was a real good exercise. We were able to dominate the games from the start largely due to our superior fitness and the fact that we were taken for granted, especially in the first game, because were Under-17s," Edwards noted.

"We started all of the games very fast and scored within the first five minutes, which is something that I am very happy with. We led every game at half-time and unfortunately conceded in each game in the second period. And that I think as to do with a couple of factors," he continued.

"One of those factors is the number of changes we tend to make. In fact, in all of the games, we made seven or eight changes, and that played a part in goals that we conceded. The second thing, in the second half we played at the same end of the pitch in all the games where the lighting was not as good as the other end," he theorised.

Last Thursday, the Jamaicans pitted their skills and wits with older players, defeating Boca Under-19 5-4 with Donavon Dawkins, Nicholas Nelson, Alex Marshall, Peter-Lee Vassell, and Deshane Beckford all getting on the scoresheet. Jamaica had led 4-0 at half- time before making five changes at the start of the second half.

Then, on Friday, they turned back Brazil Select Under-19 4-2 with Nicholas Nelson and Peter-Lee Vassell grabbing their second goals of the tournament. Javain Brown and Jabari Hylton were the other the scorers.

On Saturday, Jamaica beat Plantation Academy Under 19 4-1, with the in-form duo of Nicholas Nelson and Peter-Lee Vassell scoring for the third consecutive game. Defender Jahwahni Hinds and central midfielder Hakim Williams got in on the act.

"We had five players that were playing with us for the very first time. Overall, I think they did very well. One I think was out of his depths. He was far from our level. The other four were quite good. Two really stood out, and we want to keep looking at those two in Dondre Bailey from Canada and Dillon Perrin from Miami," said Edwards.

"We will break until Saturday, where we resume at Treasure Beach until January 8, before we move back to Kingston until we depart to Honduras.

"There will be no more breaking of the camp, although we might have new people coming in and out. We will keep the core group of around 14 to 16 players constant and the others will rotate as we look to bolster the group," said Edwards.

The young Reggae Boyz have been drawn in Group A in the 2015 CONCACAF U-17 Championship, where they will play host Honduras, Cuba, Trinidad and Tobago, United States of America (USA), and the winner of a play-off between Central American sides El Salvador and Guatemala.

Group B is viewed as the group of death with Costa Rica, Panama, Mexico, Canada, Haiti, and St Lucia.

The tournament will start on February 27 and end on March 15.

Jamaica has qualified for two U-17 World Cup tournaments -- in New Zealand 1999 and Mexico in 2011. Four teams will qualify for the 2015 Under-17 World Cup in Chile next year.

SOURCE: Jamaica Observer
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on December 28, 2014, 10:34:04 AM
I went to Ato Bolden Stadium to watch the preparation of the boys for Honduras, based on what I see we are in big trouble. The coaches running the boys like horses, nothing technical and nothing tactical. In a three hour session, half of the time is used for fitness and strength in December for a February tournament. This doesn't make sense especially when you have new players many of them foreign to evaluate; you need to determine their technical ability to assess the tactical  of current, new and past players but all I see is running and running.

It's like these coaches forget the results in Haiti, I hope they are not naive enough to think player speed and strength will help us qualify for the World Cup. The speed of play comes with good technical ability to move the ball. One man running fast with the ball will not work, team speed is the team's ability to move the ball fast with good one touch or two touch passing. I fear that these coaches either dont know or dont understand.  I always want to support local coaches but we need better coaches for this U17 team regardless of where the coaches from.

If you have time go to Ato Bolden Stadium on Tuesday and Thursday at 4pm or Saturday and Sunday 9-12 to witness the absolute madness.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ANC2 on December 28, 2014, 11:25:21 AM
Tobago28 you go and see one session and judging.
Suppose you went on a day of fitness work or testing. So What!

I agree they have to look at Skills and tactics but they also have to look at fitness.
Without it players skills and willingness to cary out tactics is zero
A little hard session n fitness will just show the coaches which players have some fight in them
Haiti and St Lucia was running past T&T like they was Cipriani, Ghandi and Kitch statues.

Let us refrain from coming on a forum and passing judgement on we coaches based on one session you see.
Oh gorsh man! :-[
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on December 28, 2014, 12:26:53 PM
Dante Greer
I went to Ato Bolden Stadium to watch the preparation of the boys for Honduras, based on what I see we are in big trouble. The coaches running the boys like horses, nothing technical and nothing tactical. In a three hour session, half of the time is used for fitness and strength in December for a February tournament. This doesn't make sense especially when you have new players many of them foreign to evaluate; you need to determine their technical ability to assess the tactical  of current, new and past players but all I see is running and running.

It's like these coaches forget the results in Haiti, I hope they are not naive enough to think player speed and strength will help us qualify for the World Cup. The speed of play comes with good technical ability to move the ball. One man running fast with the ball will not work, team speed is the team's ability to move the ball fast with good one touch or two touch passing. I fear that these coaches either dont know or dont understand.  I always want to support local coaches but we need better coaches for this U17 team regardless of where the coaches from.

If you have time go to Ato Bolden Stadium on Tuesday and Thursday at 4pm or Saturday and Sunday 9-12 to witness the absolute madness.



at least  cooper  is on the hunt for new player
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on December 28, 2014, 12:47:12 PM
ANC2 I apologize it was a typo, obviously I would not judge based on one practice as it could of been fitness. I attended 5 sessions in total, each session if I was not clear had 1 1/2 hours of fitness. I agree that fitness is required but St. Lucia and Haiti ran pass us after good one/two touch passing once they has a 1v1 then they beat us. Secondly, they were able to run primarily up the middle due to poor tactical awareness, poor positioning and extremely poor tackling technique.  The coaches need to work on this , most of the midfileders dive in and get beat in vs. Haiti and St. Lucia forcing the next player to commit thereby weakening the formation. 

Your comment supports my point, that team speed comes with good technique and ball movement. Look at the best midfielders in the world, outright speed they do not have but technique and quick decision making coupled with good positioning allows them to play fast.  The field players do not lack speed, so the coaches need to focus elsewhere. I suspect that they done know how to teach the other components so they focus on speed. On each 5 days, even during the scrimmage sessions the coaches don't stop and correct or stop and teach. I never watch a training session in my life where a quality coach doesn't talk to his players.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on December 28, 2014, 01:31:57 PM
Tobago28 you go and see one session and judging.
Suppose you went on a day of fitness work or testing. So What!

I agree they have to look at Skills and tactics but they also have to look at fitness.
Without it players skills and willingness to cary out tactics is zero
A little hard session n fitness will just show the coaches which players have some fight in them
Haiti and St Lucia was running past T&T like they was Cipriani, Ghandi and Kitch statues.

Let us refrain from coming on a forum and passing judgement on we coaches based on one session you see.
Oh gorsh man! :-[


Long time football mentality that running players into the ground will make better players. Who does fitness for more than 45 minutes in a pre-competition phase? Same thing with the U20 carrying them to run Chancellor hill.

Right now fitness should be generated through playing. Our tactical and technical sessions should be constructed in such a manner that it generates the intensity the coach requires.

 
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on December 28, 2014, 04:19:19 PM
Elan

You are 1000% correct. The need for simulating the intensity is even greater when you consider that funding challenges may limit international match opportunities. Unfortunately, as I observe our football at the younger ages it does not appear that the coaches understand that this is a mental game. I here Coach Hart talk about mental toughness of players yet our preparation is not targeted at technical, tactical and emotional development; we still running the boys.

We have the talent, locally and internationally BUT we must change our approach to develop that talent. The coaches have to believe its mental, our coaches still using negative reinforcement with 16 year old boys. The sad part is that the i, youtube,  UEFA and FIFA websites  have free information on training and  that any coach can use to develop their craft but the effort appears to be lacking.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on January 19, 2015, 07:34:15 AM
Yup time for this thread ...just waiting on the no camp funding excuses etc
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on January 21, 2015, 07:16:06 PM
Can we learn from the U20's Experience?

The U20 team is technically and athletically equal or better to most of the teams they played. However, tactically, emotionally and mentally they were far behind. Look at the games:

Jamaica to kill off the game dropped points 2
Guatemala 2 defensive errors 1 defender 1 keeper, no goals from run of play-- possible dropped points 1
Panama best team in group(playing with 9 men) ridiculous goalie error possible dropped points minimum 1

We could have entered the game with 8 points and played for a draw but the mental, emotional and tactical mistakes that included disqualifying two players put us in a must win situation. Its over for the U20's but the U17's head to San Pedro Sula, Honduras in one month.

I hope, pray, and wish that the coaching staff and players learn from this experience. The coaches must focus on positive motivation, mentally focused preparation and emotional control for the boys. A small nation of 1.5 million challenged a country of 300 million and what separated us was the consciousness and confidence of the coaches to be infused into the players. Its time we learn that negative psychological motivation does not work..it never worked telling a child he guh be a dunce to encourage him to study. This is much of what the foreign coaches bring ..read the comments about Benneker(not at tactician) only that he was a great motivator but HOW?

I support local coaches but we need local coaches to emotionally and mentally grow up and realize that its all about confidence and believe after a certain physical and technical point.  A national coach cant make his team physically fit, the players must come fit, if they don't you cant select them because it reflects their discipline. A national coach has players from all over so he must be SOLID with his system of play, tactics, and method of motivation. What is the best way to install your views in your team in a short period of time? Once we do some serious work to answer that we will get the results we deserve but we have to do the work.

Its our consciousness, Stupid!

Lastly, it would have been nice to have Shaq Moore playing right wing back for us instead of the US, his father(Wendell Moore) brought him at a young age to TNT and was discourage by what some say was an anti-foreign based player mentality focused on running the boys for 1 1/2 hours without touching the ball.  I hope the U17's don't make the same mistake because I hear a large crop from USA, Canada and Europe have expressed interest and traveled for trials.

Its over for U20's but lets get behind the U17, at least one age group can qualify for a World Cup this year.


Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on January 21, 2015, 07:25:49 PM
A month away from our first game and it have players who were "selected" eh receive any info on what's going on, what's next, etc.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on January 23, 2015, 12:06:51 AM
Can we learn from the U20's Experience?

Its over for U20's but lets get behind the U17, at least one age group can qualify for a World Cup this year.





No we won't learn from this experience. Its the same old heads making the same stupid decisions ad nauseum.

By all means lets support the u17s. But the results will be the same or worse.


As for the coaches...just like the players their skills must be developed in the fire of competition. When your World cup preparation consists of playing Jabloteh and WASA dont expect either coach or players to compete at world cup level. I've said it several times on this forum...I have been watching many of the key members of this U20 play since they were 14 years old. They were exceptionally talented, a golden generation. That is the only reason they were able to run with the best in CONCACAF. The only other youth team that had this kind of quality was the 2007 U20s with Peltier, Guerra, Keon Daniel, Hyland, Mitchell and Abu-Bakhr.  And those guys could not even qualify for the CONCACAF finals.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on January 24, 2015, 10:37:58 PM
So the U17s are trying to get everyone in T&T from the first week in February to start "gelling" and then supposedly head to a camp in Panama around the 17th/18th before heading to Honduras. Really hope they get that camp to come off.  :praying:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on January 25, 2015, 04:28:32 AM
So the U17s are trying to get everyone in T&T from the first week in February to start "gelling" and then supposedly head to a camp in Panama around the 17th/18th before heading to Honduras. Really hope they get that camp to come off.  :praying:

couple games against panama u17 .. and some clubs ...  a venezuelan camp may have been better  but once we get a camp is all that matters ...
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on January 26, 2015, 06:18:18 PM
So, here comes the ttfa and a u17 team of kids blinded by the bright lights. People are hoping that they do something special, something the u20 team couldn't do, something the women's team and the senior team couldn't do, like qualify for something beyond their reach, namely another World Cup tournament. Don't get me wrong but I am all for keeping hope alive, just not on a realm that requires split second decisions, strong belief, technical skills and know how, professional savvy, a burning desire to win and the will to make it happen, you cannot ponder on what to do next in the heat of the game and hope that the other team is as lazy and unprepared as you are unpredictable. Hope doesn't belong in that realm.

To quote someone who considers herself a professional, she said "Everything has to be done professionally, in order to produce a professional product". Monique Nobrega.

So, the cycle continues. Another group of youngsters not ready for primetime being misguided by adults who are basically champions of their miseducation in the realm of what professionalism encompasses and what is required to succeed onto the next realm. Hope is your mantra. Failure is your ultimate trophy.

And the beat goes on. Everlasting.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: maxg on January 26, 2015, 06:54:09 PM
Cancel everything..doh play nobody..cause we go fail ..as a matter of fact cancel football until we organized..but how we go know we organized ?  well that takes time, so I guess we best start organizing a U8 team..is that even possible..guess we will never play no football cause in many instances even organized teams does lorse..but since we so disorganized, we best doh even bother for now or future.  OR ah easier solution King...back ah next more organized team.. My only issue is to many tournaments for the limited dollars. But if Belmont Parkites send ah team I will try to support.   ;D
Title: Guatemala qualifies for CONCACAF U-17 Championship
Post by: Tallman on January 26, 2015, 07:07:44 PM
Guatemala qualifies for CONCACAF U-17 Championship
CONCACAF.com


Guatemala qualified for the 2015 CONCACAF Under-17 Championship, defeating host El Salvador 2-0 on Saturday to win their Central American playoff series 2-1 on aggregate.

Diego Fernando Raymundo Lima (21’) and Esteban Garcia (51’) struck for the Chapines in front of a crowd of 9,374 at the Estadio Cuscatlan.

The Salvadorans won the first leg 1-0 on the road a week earlier in San Miguel Petapa.

The 12-team CONCACAF event will be played February 27 – March 15 in San Pedro Sula, Honduras.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on January 26, 2015, 08:06:21 PM
Cancel everything..doh play nobody..cause we go fail ..as a matter of fact cancel football until we organized..but how we go know we organized ?  well that takes time, so I guess we best start organizing a U8 team..is that even possible..guess we will never play no football cause in many instances even organized teams does lorse..but since we so disorganized, we best doh even bother for now or future.  OR ah easier solution King...back ah next more organized team.. My only issue is to many tournaments for the limited dollars. But if Belmont Parkites send ah team I will try to support.   ;D

Remember Project "Goal 2018" or something like that.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on January 28, 2015, 02:56:27 AM
T&T U-17s, Guatemala in Concacaf opener.
T&T Guardian Reports.


T&T Under-17 footballers will meet Guatemala in their opening Group A match of the 2015 Concacaf Under-17 Championship at the Francisco Morazan Stadium, San Pedro Sula, Honduras on February 27 from 2.30 pm.

This after the Central Americans earned their confederations’ third and final spot at the Concacaf event via a 2-1 aggregate win over El Salvador, following a 2-0 win in San Salvador on Sunday.

Diego Fernando Raymundo Lima (21st) and Esteban Garcia (51st) struck for the Guatemalans in front of a crowd of 9,374 at the Estadio Cuscatlan in El Salvador. The Salvadoreans won the first leg 1-0 on the road a week earlier in San Miguel Petapa.

In addition to Guatemala, T&T, which qualified as the best third placed team from its Caribbean Football Union Under-17 Championship group behind eventual champions Haiti and St Lucia, will also face host Honduras, Jamaica, USA and Cuba, in Group A. Group B contains Canada, Haiti, Panama, Mexico, St Lucia and Costa Rica.

The Olympic Stadium will host Group B and the final phase including the fifth and third-place matches, as well as the Grand Final, scheduled for March 15.

The tournament will crown the Confederation champion at this age level, and qualify four teams to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup Chile 2015.

The top team from each group after round-robin play advance to the World Cup and the other two will be determined by the results of the final day elimination matches.

The new Concacaf Under-17 Men’s tournament format has increased the number of set games to five for each competing nation, up from two in previous editions of the Championship. The new format has been created to favor development and competition.

Mexico is the defending Concacaf Under-17 champion, having claimed the title in the previous edition of the championship, in Panama in 2013.

2014 Concacaf Men’s U-17 Championship World cup qualifying

San Pedro Sula, Honduras

Group A: Honduras, Jamaica, Guatemala, T&T, USA, Cuba
Group B: Canada, Haiti, Panama, Mexico, St Lucia, Costa Rica

2014 CONCACAF Men’s Under-17 Championship Schedule

Day 1—February 27 (Francisco Morazan Stadium)

2.30 pm: Guatemala vs T&T
5 pm: USA vs Cuba
7.30 pm: Honduras vs Jamaica

Day 2—February 28 (Olympic Stadium)

2.30 pm: Panama vs Mexico
5 pm: St Lucia vs Costa Rica
7.30 pm: Canada vs Haiti

Day 4—March 02 (Francisco Morazan Stadium)

2.30 pm: Jamaica vs Guatemala
5 pm: T&T vs USA
7.30 pm: Honduras vs Cuba

Day 5—March 3 (Olympic Stadium)

2.30 pm: Haiti vs Panama
5 pm: Mexico vs St Lucia
7.30 pm: Canada vs Costa Rica

Day 7—March 5 (Francisco Morazan Stadium)

2.30 pm: Cuba vs Jamaica
5 pm: Guatemala vs USA
7.30 pm: Honduras vs T&T

Day 8—March 6 (Olympic Stadium)

2.30 pm: Costa Rica vs Haiti
5 pm: Panama vs St Lucia
7.30 pm: Canada vs México

Day 10—March 8 (Francisco Morazan Stadium)

2.30 pm: T&T vs Jamaica
5 pm: Cuba vs Guatemala
7.30 pm: Honduras vs USA

Day 11—March 9 (Olympic Stadium)

2.30 pm: Mexico vs Haiti
5 pm: Costa Rica vs Panama
7.30 pm: Canada vs St Lucia

Day 13—March 11 (Francisco Morazan Stadium)

2.30 pm: T&T vs Cuba
5 pm: USA vs Jamaica
7.30 pm: Honduras vs Guatemala

Day 14—March 12 (Olympic Stadium)

2.30 pm: Mexico vs Costa Rica
5 pm: St Lucia vs Haiti
7.30 pm: Canada vs Panama

Day 17—March 15 (Olympic Stadium)

14:00 2nd vs 3rd
5 pm: 1st vs 4th
20:00 1A vs 1B​

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on January 28, 2015, 08:29:06 AM
U15 team returns from "useful" Colombia trip. The team was selected with this tournament in mind. We will see how "useful" this trip really was. Or was it "wasteful"?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on January 28, 2015, 11:33:34 AM
U15 team returns from "useful" Colombia trip. The team was selected with this tournament in mind. We will see how "useful" this trip really was. Or was it "wasteful"?

that was in 2013 and the team was not kept together cooper had to start over screening  for the cfu u16 last year , it was a completely new team. Now more local players  and foreign based/born players were  added to the pool so i guess this is a new team again  ... :(
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on January 28, 2015, 02:04:14 PM
I really not accepting any excuses this time around. I will be satisfied if we play our best football and lose but not accepting playing shit again.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on January 28, 2015, 02:52:20 PM
We getting USA in a good time, I like that.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on January 29, 2015, 03:10:36 PM
U-17 players pass medical tests ahead of CONCACAF qualifiers.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Thirty members of the Trinidad and Tobago National Men’s Under 17 team underwent medical screenings last Tuesday at the Ato Boldon Stadium as they continue their build up to the CONCACAF Under 17 Championship and Final round of World Cup qualifiers in Honduras next month.

The  Healthnet/MyCard Sport medical team conducted a doctor’s fitness examination, blood pressure, body mass index, vision screening, fasting blood glucose, cholesterol, blood and iron count, ECG heart test and Spirometry lung capacity testing. All tests were conducted on-site using Healthnet’s Medical Mobile unit at the Couva venue.

This is all part of the relationship between Healthnet and the TTFA which started last August when Healthnet agreed to a deal worth over $3 million in the next four years to cover medical screening for all national teams.

Every player and member of staff passed the medical tests and were presented with their Healthnet/TTFA My Cards which will afford them benefits at several health shops, restaurants and other merchants in T&T.

T&T’s opening game in Honduras is against Guatemala at the Francisco Morazan Stadium, San Pedro Sula on February 27.

T&T, which qualified as the best third placed team from the Caribbean, will also face host Honduras, Jamaica, USA and Cuba, in Group A. Group B includes Canada, Haiti, Panama, Mexico, St Lucia and Costa Rica.

T&T head coach Shawn Cooper said he expects to finalize his team for the tournament next week and is already planning his approach for the opening match against the Guatemalans.



“This will be the third time we are playing Guatemala in a CONCACAF Final at this level. We won the last time but they defeated us 3-0 in 2009. We know we have what it takes to get the win over them,” Cooper told TTFA Media.

“We are leaving no stone unturned. We know the team that went to Haiti was not our best team and one that would be able to compete at the CONCACAF.

As such, we have made some adjustments and we’ve also looked at a couple new players from North America that will bring a lot of value to the current squad and what you will see now is a more balanced and technically better team than the one that played in the previous round in Haiti,” Cooper concluded.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Spursy on January 29, 2015, 03:43:10 PM
Was just about to post that! Flex u beat me to it! :)
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on January 30, 2015, 01:02:11 AM
Aye coach, you just talking a pack a shit about how this team is technically better than the next and how this team has what it takes to do this and do that. Which is what? You, the ttfa, and your entire team failed the "vision test". They are kids so they are suppose to pass the "fat boy tests". You and the frigging tired ass ttfa ain't fooling nobody. We will see, according to Richard Pryor.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on January 30, 2015, 07:33:14 AM
The  Healthnet/MyCard Sport medical team conducted a doctor’s fitness examination, blood pressure, body mass index, vision screening, fasting blood glucose, cholesterol, blood and iron count, ECG heart test and Spirometry lung capacity testing. All tests were conducted on-site using Healthnet’s Medical Mobile unit at the Couva venue.

This is all part of the relationship between Healthnet and the TTFA which started last August when Healthnet agreed to a deal worth over $3 million in the next four years to cover medical screening for all national teams.

Every player and member of staff passed the medical tests and were presented with their Healthnet/TTFA My Cards which will afford them benefits at several health shops, restaurants and other merchants in T&T.



This is a real good move by the TTFF
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 05, 2015, 11:08:52 AM
We can win the group’
U-17 Boyz coach Edwards eyes Chile World Cup spot

BY HOWARD WALKER Observer senior reporter walkerh@jamaicaobserver.com

Thursday, February 05, 2015 1 comment

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JAMAICA Under-17 head coach Andrew Edwards is brimming with confidence that his young charges can top Group A of the CONCACAF Championship and eventually secure a FIFA World Cup spot in Chile in October.

The Jamaicans are drawn alongside the United States of America (USA), Honduras, Cuba, Guatemala and Trinidad and Tobago in Group A.

Group B consists of perennial powerhouse Mexico, along with Canada, Panama, Haiti, Costa Rica and St Lucia in what appears to be the harder of the two groups.

"I have said before that the only bad draw is the one that you are not in, and the only good draw is the one that you are in, so we are very happy to have been in the draw," Edwards told the Jamaica Observer.

"I think we are in a very competitive group, but one that we can realistically expect to progress from and I believe there is a strong possibility that we can win the group, especially if we can get a point from our first game. Three points would be even better," noted Edwards.

Jamaica will open their campaign on February 27 against Honduras in the third game of a triple-header at the Estadio Francisco Morazan.

"I believe based on our scouting and observations of our opponents, that we are a cut above Guatemala, Cuba and Trinidad and then it would basically come down to a decisive game against the USA. But that is speaking in ideal terms. We know we have to go out there and play every game and earn the points," said Edwards.

"But I really believe we have got a competitive draw, but one that we can certainly feel very confident of progressing from," he continued.

The two group winners will automatically qualify for the World Cup.

Twenty-four days before the championship, Edwards currently has a training camp of 24 players, including seven who didn't make the Caribbean qualifying trip in Haiti. The coach is happy with the progress of the group, which will ultimately be cut to 20.

"The preparation has been going quite well. We have had an extensive scouting of players locally and internationally since coming back from Haiti," noted Edwards.

"As it is we are very close to that 20 and we have a few weeks before we make our final decision. We are allowing all the boys the opportunity to stake their claim," he added.

The squad has been bolstered by an attacking midfielder, Jordon Montoya from Bill Crothers, Canada; central midfielder Dilan Perrin of Kendall Academy, USA; central defender Jahlanie Hammond of Miramar United (USA); Zaire Bartley, a forward from New York Red Bulls; utility player Demar James of St Elizabeth Technical; defender Chris-Andrew Dixon of Super Action FC, St Elizabeth, and goalkeeper Jabulani Lindsay of Titchfield High.

"For the most part I would say that the integration has been very good, so overall we are very satisfied with these players," Edwards ended.

The squad is completed by goalkeepers Jahmali White (JC), Akeem Chambers (St Jago); defenders Jahwani Hinds of Calabar High, Ajeanie Talbott (JC), Fabian Grant (Camperdown), Juvane Brown (KC), Antoniel Mullings (Penwood High); midfielders Alex Marshall (St George's College), Shandel Senior (Vere), Peter-Lee Vassell (Cornwall College), Hakim Williams (Calabar), Tajea Brown (Camperdown), Charles Grant (Muchette High); Forwards: Justin McMaster (Hillel Academy), Donovan Dawkins (JC), Nicholas Nelson (Hydel) and Deshane Beckford (Rusea's).
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 05, 2015, 11:34:33 AM
USA have ah fella up top called Haji Wright. The fella is terror.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: dreamer on February 05, 2015, 11:57:03 AM
Imagine Jamaica having the new found attitude to say that they're a cut above T&T.
Uncle Tim and Shell-done , please reply with something to make the T&T team keep their morale up.
Let us know about planned preparations.
Visas ready. Flights booked? Parents up to date? Do you need help.
Any updates for the MOS? Do you need us to help raise funds for snack money, some Diana sweetie?
Anything besides silence?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 05, 2015, 12:24:14 PM
USA have ah fella up top called Haji Wright. The fella is terror.

he is pretty good ...
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 05, 2015, 03:30:19 PM
Imagine Jamaica having the new found attitude to say that they're a cut above T&T.

All coaches will say that, until we cut they tail!!!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: dreamer on February 05, 2015, 03:53:24 PM
All coaches will say that, until we cut they tail!!!

Let's please see the preparation plans on how we will attempt to do just that.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on February 05, 2015, 07:53:36 PM
All coaches will say that, until we cut they tail!!!

Let's please see the preparation plans on how we will attempt to do just that.
It's the same preparations plan they using to prepare for the 2018 World Cup.
1. Make sure the Airport is in operational mode to allow the plane carrying the golden trophy to land at Piarco.
2. Make sure to make a dental appointment so the teeth and them clean and white for the camera take.
3. Make sure everybody have their best Sunday best ready to pose with the trophy for the camera.
4. Go to the Ross Advertising agency to learn the most appropriate gangster lean for the camera with the trophy, front and center.
5. And when we done with the photo-op, make sure the people and them get the trophy back safe and sound.

It's a simplistic plan in all it's splendor and a plan that any age group could execute except that it doesn't apply to these youths or any other under age group for that matter. The ttfa have sole ownership to those rights under the new constitution. So, what we are saying really is.........what plan?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: dreamer on February 06, 2015, 10:51:03 AM
Apparently iz alot of posters feeling seriously frustrated by the complete underperformance & almost treasonous sabotage of the football teams. This collective energy to right these wrongs will hopefully be channeled appropriately soon as the cynicism is becoming toxic.
Some people like dey ready to throw in de towel (if not done already)
Yuh not hearing from Touches, Patriot, Palos. Little from Big Mag. Small Mag gone underground.
Even Horner gone quiet. Could this be the quiet before the storm? .... and ...What kind of storm?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 06, 2015, 05:03:39 PM
U-17 MNT Splits Two-Game Set with Panama
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BRADENTON, Florida (Feb. 5, 2015) – The U.S. Under-17 Men’s National Team faced Panama’s U-17s and split the two-game set over a three-day stretch at IMG Academy.

The USA defeated Panama 2-0 on Monday, Feb. 2, with Christian Pulisic scoring a 42nd-minute penalty kick goal. Josh Perez padded the lead with a tally off of a Joe Gallardo assist in the 83rd minute.

In the rematch on Wednesday, Feb. 4, the USA and Panama were scoreless through nearly the entire match. However, Panama’s Jose Rodriguez scored in the 89th minute and Cesar Blackman added a goal in the third minute of stoppage time to grab the 2-0 victory.

The U-17 MNT is gearing up for the 2015 CONCACAF U-17 Championship. The USA opens Group A play against Cuba on Friday, Feb. 27, at San Pedro Sula, Honduras. Four teams from the tournament will directly qualify for the 2015 FIFA U-17 World Cup in Chile.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: dreamer on February 06, 2015, 05:50:45 PM
Whaz de score in the T&T U17 practice game?

Wait wait .... we did play a game right ?    :(
Please doh tell me T&T boys home fartin' around with their play stations while the other teams play high quality confidence-building, form-ensuring matches.
Please Uncle Tim tell us dat eh true.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on February 06, 2015, 08:25:17 PM
Whaz de score in the T&T U17 practice game?

Wait wait .... we did play a game right ?    :(
Please doh tell me T&T boys home fartin' around with their play stations while the other teams play high quality confidence-building, form-ensuring matches.
Please Uncle Tim tell us dat eh true.
T&T won by default. The other team was so intimated by the young Soca Warriors massive war chest that they decided to forfeit this one. They stated that they were ill prepared for the Warriors and their massive build up.
Onto the next bunch of misfits.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on February 09, 2015, 03:44:59 PM
Well we are 17 days from the opening match in San Pedro Sula, Honduras vs. Guatamela. I understand they are heading to Panama for warm up matches, which seems like a very good idea as Panama has really developed football in the last 10 years. I believe the boys are a talented bunch, as prepared as possible based on finances now they need to bond as a team and develop the BELIEVE.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: amwood on February 09, 2015, 06:21:28 PM
They play against a "Howard Perspective" team tomorrow at Ato Boldon...
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on February 09, 2015, 11:17:53 PM
I am here ..again..de man nobody want to hear..nobody cares to read my post an dem..only Flex does scan dem fuh negative comments...

anyway I only know one youth on dis U17 team ..I don't know who de coach is..but I tellin allyuh..dis team winning everyting..de coach is de best coach..and we goin and win everyting...so all who want to talk negative..ban fuh allyuh...
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on February 10, 2015, 08:35:43 AM
DREAMER..and all fellow tnt football folks..ah here...ah here ...ah just under some pressure ..new album..and all that goes with it...but lord knows ah here...

play de fitball...

tnt tnt tnt tnt tnt
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 10, 2015, 08:41:34 AM
DREAMER..and all fellow tnt football folks..ah here...ah here ...ah just under some pressure ..new album..and all that goes with it...but lord knows ah here...

play de fitball...

tnt tnt tnt tnt tnt

Breds, yuh resurrected like a man who just drink some bois bande!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on February 10, 2015, 08:52:31 AM
hahhaha...nah boy Deeks..as said..i here right tru...meaning on the site..and in de fitball...is jess pressure nah...is me alone running my band...ah eh get no 5 million dollars and ting...so
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 10, 2015, 08:55:27 AM
hahhaha...nah boy Deeks..as said..i here right tru...meaning on the site..and in de fitball...is jess pressure nah...is me alone running my band...ah eh get no 5 million dollars and ting...so

Good luck on your endeavor. I wish you all the success. God(Jah) Bless!!!!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on February 10, 2015, 09:03:27 AM
thanks man
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on February 10, 2015, 09:12:41 AM
Another "useful" trip against another "useful" team in a "useful" but empty stadium full of nobody......"useful"  preparations for the team and the young fellas. Does anybody in this ttfa know what they are doing? Why would you keep repeating the things that do not work? A "useful" game against Howard Perspective? Who is that? If you beat them what does it mean? If you lose against them what does that mean? Why is no other u17 team playing against them? What is so special about this Howard Perspective? Who is Howard? Why does he have a perspective? What is the ttfa's perspective? Why was Tiny Tim elected again? Who is the technical director of the ttfa? Do they even have a general secretary? Does anyone work on football matters at the ttfa? Whatever happened in the meeting held yesterday?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 10, 2015, 09:36:46 AM
Another "useful" trip against another "useful" team in a "useful" but empty stadium full of nobody......"useful"  preparations for the team and the young fellas. Does anybody in this ttfa know what they are doing? Why would you keep repeating the things that do not work? A "useful" game against Howard Perspective? Who is that? If you beat them what does it mean? If you lose against them what does that mean? Why is no other u17 team playing against them? What is so special about this Howard Perspective? Who is Howard? Why does he have a perspective? What is the ttfa's perspective? Why was Tiny Tim elected again? Who is the technical director of the ttfa? Do they even have a general secretary? Does anyone work on football matters at the ttfa? Whatever happened in the meeting held yesterday?


King De, the Howard University coach, Philip Gyau, is in TT to recruit. There was a big turn at CIC grounds the other day. So they decide to pick a squad from that turn out to play the U-17. As you know, Jack Warner left the TTFA  in debt. They have no money, so the have to beg the govt to assist until they can get willing business people to help them. Unlike the US who can call up anybody to play them, we, unfortunately can't do it. TTFA don't have the money. Hence the reason why the playing the Howard perspective team.
Title: Jamaican National Under-17 to face Costa Rica in two-game friendly series
Post by: Tallman on February 10, 2015, 10:53:21 AM
Jamaican National Under-17 to face Costa Rica in two-game friendly series
Jamaica Observer


JAMAICA'S National Under-17 squad will play two international friendly games against their Costa Rican counterparts on February 21 and 24 in Costa Rica.

These two games will be the final warm-up matches for the squad ahead of their travel to Honduras for the 2015 CONCACAF Under-17 Championship.

The Young Reggae Boyz are drawn in Group A of the CONCACAF Under-17 World Cup Qualifiers alongside the USA, Trinidad and Tobago, Guatemala, Cuba and Honduras.

Costa Rica are drawn in Group B alongside Canada, Mexico, Haiti, St Lucia and Panama.

Coach Andrew Edwards' squad has been in preparation since March 2013, with week-end and weekly camps, as well as an extended camp at Jakes Hotel in St Elizabeth.

They have also participated in three tournaments with the following results:

CFU Preliminary Qualifiers, where they won three games from as many starts; CFU Final Round in Haiti where they won three of four, losing the final 2-0 to Haiti; and the CASA Youth Classic in Florida where they won three of four, losing the final 4-1 on penalties.

The Jamaica Football Federation has also engaged a performance coach, who has been working with the squad as a unit as well as with individual players. A tutor also travelled with the squad to Haiti to assist with academic work.

The coaching staff has scouted most of the teams in Group A with Edwards attending Guatemala qualifying matches.

The squad has been involved in some 20 practice games locally against mainly senior men's teams.

Jamaica's delegation departs the island on February 19 at 3:00 pm en route to Costa Rica. They depart Costa Rica on the 25th for Honduras for the CONCACAF Under-17 Championship for their opening game against the host nation on the 27th.

The squad plays a practice game against Premier League leaders Arnett Gardens FC today at 5:00 pm, at the Anthony Spaulding Sports Complex.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: dreamer on February 10, 2015, 12:02:18 PM
Another "useful" trip against another "useful" team in a "useful" but empty stadium full of nobody......"useful"  preparations for the team and the young fellas. Does anybody in this ttfa know what they are doing? Why would you keep repeating the things that do not work? A "useful" game against Howard Perspective? Who is that? If you beat them what does it mean? If you lose against them what does that mean? Why is no other u17 team playing against them? What is so special about this Howard Perspective? Who is Howard? Why does he have a perspective? What is the ttfa's perspective? Why was Tiny Tim elected again? Who is the technical director of the ttfa? Do they even have a general secretary? Does anyone work on football matters at the ttfa? Whatever happened in the meeting held yesterday?

I feel your pain homie. I feel it. Treasonous sabotage going on for years.
If yuh cyah call it treason then we"ll never muster the required weaponry and heavy lifting to fight it.
Time is running out. I promise you that.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 12, 2015, 04:42:18 AM
This is what you call scouting ..... Jamaica seems to have a core group or players now they just strengthening

CONCACAF U17: Crichlow disappointed to miss out for Reggae Boyz

Sixteen-year-old Queens Park Rangers Academy attacker Gianni Crichlow is devastated that his paperwork has not materialised in time for him to get a Jamaican passport ahead of the CONCACAF U-17 Championship, in Honduras, at the end of the month.

Gianni was born in London to Jamaican parents, and hoped to have his documents processed in time to represent the country ahead of the tournament.

“I am truly disappointed that I am not involved with the lads in Honduras. I was really looking forward to it. It is truly a pain,

but I hope that the interest Jamaica has in me won’t fade out. Because,if we do qualify, my passport would be ready by that time and if I can prove myself in warm up games, I am confident I can make the squad. I just wish the lads all the best in Honduras and hope we can qualify to Chile.”

The midfielder who can also operate as a striker had some words to passport agencies.

“ Globalisation is booming, passport offices need to be quicker so footballers can live their dream and do well. Not only for me, but for others across UK and Europe.”

http://www.sportsmax.tv/?q=articles%2F2015%2F02%2F11%2Fconcacaf-u17-crichlow-disappointed-miss-out-reggae-boyz
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on February 12, 2015, 08:24:23 PM
Is de yute Tafari - from Arsenal - on the JA squad?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 12, 2015, 08:34:51 PM
Is de yute Tafari - from Arsenal - on the JA squad?

He too old.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 12, 2015, 08:46:49 PM
Is de yute Tafari - from Arsenal - on the JA squad?

is he jamaican ?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 12, 2015, 08:49:09 PM
Is de yute Tafari - from Arsenal - on the JA squad?

is he jamaican ?

His father is jamaican
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on February 12, 2015, 09:29:58 PM
Dis is a boss team! Dis team goin an beat rel people too much talent on dis team ...and de coaches and dem...rel tops...big up  to Trinidad..sorry no player from Tobago listed...but I  could be wrong...maybe de Tobago players playin fuh Connection..

Big up Trinidad !!...and Tobago too...yeh
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: amwood on February 12, 2015, 10:44:18 PM
Had a chance to link up with coach Cooper at Ato Boldon today, got some feedback from him on video that will be put together soon. The team has a few players from "outside" I think 2 or 3 from the US coming from PDA Soccer Club, Philadelphia Union ( Nixons son), one from the Red Bulls. Very interestly a youth who is currently at Arsenal, I think they are still trying to get his passport organized in time for Sunday. On a side note the training ground at Ato is poor...I was shocked to see the type of surface that these kids are training on...
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 13, 2015, 07:42:58 AM
Thursday Feb 12, 2015
Valladares, Honduras ready for U-17 Championship

NEWS Under 17s - Men SHARE THIS ARTICLE
(ABOVE) Jose Valladares will guide Honduras during the 2015 CONCACAF Under-17 Championship.

TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras - Jose Valladares is a man of dreams and challenges, not only for himself, but others as well.

Despite being under reported consideration to fill the open senior Nicaragua managerial post recently, he remained steadfast in his commitment to the task of guiding Honduras to a 2015 U-17 World Cup berth.

If Valladares achieves success in that pursuit via the upcoming CONCACAF Under-17 Championship, which his nation is hosting February 27-March 15, he will become the first Honduran to qualify a team twice for the FIFA competition.

Soon, the 52-year-old is expected to finalize his roster with a group of players for which he expects much on and off the field. Valladares realizes astutely that his young Catrachos must be able to rely on something more than football for their futures. Education is a key component in his overall approach.

With the objective of supporting that ideal, he established camps in the regions of Honduras where his squad members reside. This method has been implemented so that the players can continue to attend school and avoid travelling far distances for training. Those living on the North Coast practice in San Pedro Sula with Leonel Flores, while assistant coach Juan Flores Maradiaga works with centrally-based players in Tegucigalpa.

“We do this because they are still children and must go to high school and others to college,” Valladares told CONCACAF.com. “This obligates us to prepare the team not only athletically, but also socially, educationally and formatively.”

In January, the Hondurans trekked to South America for a trio of friendlies against their counterparts from Peru. They both won once (Peru 3-1, Honduras 2-1) and the other match ended in a draw (3-3). Forward Jorge Alvarez scored in each outing.

“It was a great experience,” said Alvarez. “We had a good time as a group. This allowed us to feel united, so that we can achieve in the qualifying tournament in San Pedro Sula for the World Cup in Chile. That is our desire.”

As for his team’s quality, Valladares expressed satisfaction with its pre-tournament performances, its strength on the field and its ability to play any opponent.

Honduras will open CONCACAF play on February 27 against Jamaica at the Estadio Francisco Morazan in San Pedro Sula.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: dreamer on February 13, 2015, 09:33:08 AM
Stoic effort by coach Cooper as he probably wants good for the team and can't afford to show his true worries
and has to take what shitty prep he can get in order to eat ah food.
But ah cyah help feeling we're being systematically underprepared by administration. A seemingly doh care vibes based on the silence
Feel like we're being set up for slaughter by the central americans without much news releases to the public to show that they TTFA are really trying hard.
Still supporting the warriors all the way but bracing for the avalanche of near suicidal rage
due to any hard-to-swallow results when digested by Sam and all the posters who take emotional licks over and over.
Good luck Jamaica. T&T see what yuh could do.
We should lower our expectations, plan a cobo sweat in Ato fuh nex' year, see if we can be nice regional heroes and scrape some goals past Curacao, Aruba, Anguilla.  St Lucia might be pushing it as they are a much more advanced nation ... who can speak some French patois to boot.
Ah mean, iz real gyulls go be following those boys when they come back to their schools and show their exploits over Anguilla.
Who are we to complain.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 13, 2015, 09:40:46 AM
But ah cyah help feeling we're being systematically underprepared by administration

dreamer, you can't be serious!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: dreamer on February 13, 2015, 09:52:12 AM
Yuh have to be subtle with a subjective comment as above, as some people here take SERIOUS offense with a criticism of these folks, for some baffling reason.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 13, 2015, 01:52:16 PM
Since we team training behind the Iron Curtain


U.S. youngster Christian Pulisic trains alongside Borussia Dortmund stars (http://www.espnfc.com/borussia-dortmund/story/2297265/us-youngster-christian-pulisic-trains-with-borussia-dortmunds-first-team)



United States youth international Christian Pulisic trained for the first time with Borussia Dortmund's first team this week, with coach Jurgen Klopp calling him "a great footballer."

Pulisic, 16, is still waiting for his playing licence from the German Football Association and until then is limited to only training.

Between stints with the U.S. under-17 side, he has been improving his skills with Dortmund's under-17 and under-19 teams, and this week was called up to train with the club's first team.

"We were missing his position and that's why we called him up. He did a good job," Klopp told reporters.

Pulisic is part of a generation of players in BVB's youth academy that have received plenty of public attention in recent weeks.


Youngsters like Felix Passlack and Dzenis Burnic joined Dortmund for their winter training camp in January, and Bild has already compared the former to Mario Gotze, who also came through the club's youth academy.

"Pulisic is part of that generation," Klopp said. "He's a great footballer, an attacking midfielder. He can kick the ball around really well. And in a very intense training session with narrow spaces, he did not stand out in a negative way. This is a real sign of quality."

The Dortmund boss, however, insisted that the club will manage their youngsters carefully.

"That's important for their development. That might not be possible everywhere -- as you can see with [Martin] Odegaard [at Real Madrid]," he said. "But we will do all we can to allow the lads the time they need in spite of the great talent and the great quality they already have."


https://www.youtube.com/v/yIoB4-68I6M
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 14, 2015, 12:41:33 PM
Did the player leave T&T today? Some were suppose to leave today and some tomorrow for Panama.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 14, 2015, 01:08:27 PM
Generation Adidas Cup Day One Recap (http://www.orlandocitysc.com/post/2015/02/13/generation-adidas-cup-day-one-recap)



ORLANDO - February 13, 2015 - The second event in the 2014-15 Generation adidas Cup kicked off at the Seminole Soccer Complex in Lake Mary on Friday afternoon with all six teams in the East Region back in action for their third match of this year’s competition.

The opening game of the afternoon featured third place Philadelphia Union and DC United, who were still looking for their first points of the tournament. United came out strong and controlled much of the possession in the first half, but were unable to capitalize on the few goal scoring chances they created. DC would later regret their missed opportunities as Philadelphia’s Nixon took advantage of a miscommunication between the defender and the goalkeeper to give the Union a 1-0 advantage 24 minutes into the second half. Despite a push from United, the Union held on to their slim lead and claimed their first victory of the competition.

The two remaining unbeaten teams in the region, Toronto FC and New York Red Bulls met in the second match of the day in a thrilling contest. The Red Bulls stormed to an early 2-0 advantage through goals from Saramago and Marin. However, the game was far from decided as Toronto’s Ennin scored a much-needed rescuer at the beginning of the second half. Tensions flared as the game drew to a close, with the Red Bull’s Teixeria being yellow carded following a scrap between the two squads. With just one minute left to play in regulation, Boakye sent Toronto’s bench into celebration with a last-gasp equalizer that sent the game into penalties. However, the Red Bulls would win the day and take the match 3-1 in penalties to claim first place in the group.               

The final match of the day included the hometown team Orlando City SC and the New England Revolution. City jumped on the board first after taking advantage of a chaotic play in the penalty box through Haig’s poke from just a few yards out. However, Orlando’s lead didn’t last long, as a long ball found the Revolution’s Jennings in space who skilfully chipped the advancing goalkeeper. Orlando City responded well to the Revs equalizer, taking the lead just six minutes later when Lior converted on the counter-attack. Orlando maintained their advantage, holding off the opposition to secure a 2-1 victory.

The 2014-15 Generation adidas Cup resumes Saturday, February 14th, at 3pm ET when the Philadelphia Union kick off against Toronto FC.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 14, 2015, 03:09:19 PM
Did the player leave T&T today? Some were suppose to leave today and some tomorrow for Panama.

hmm no funds again ??
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 14, 2015, 04:25:20 PM
U-17 MEN'S TEAM OFF TO PANAMA FOR TRAINING CAMP AHEAD OF CONCACAF QUALIFIERS

Trinidad and Tobago’s Men Under 17 Team will depart tomorrow for a ten-day training camp in Panama ahead of the CONCACAF Final Round of World Cup qualification in Honduras later this month.

Head Coach Shawn Cooper will take a 20-man squad to Panama where they will play four training matches including two against Panama’s National Under 17 team on Monday and Wednesday.

Cooper expressed optimism about the team’s chances heading into the tournament.

“I think our chances are good. We know what is ahead of us and we’ve been able to compete against these teams in past tournaments. We’ve worked very hard in the build up so far and this camp in Panama will give us an opportunity to get some much needed match preparation and allow us to do some fine tuning before we head off to Honduras,” Cooper told TTFA Media.

Commenting on his squad, he added, “We’ve added a few players from North America and one midfielder from England Morgan Bruce. These additions I believe will add a lot to the team and I expect every player to give it their best shot in the tournament.”

T&T’s opening game in Honduras is against Guatemala at the Francisco Morazan Stadium, San Pedro Sula on February 27.

T&T, which qualified as the best third placed team from the Caribbean, will also face host Honduras, Jamaica, USA and Cuba, in Group A. Group B includes Canada, Haiti, Panama, Mexico, St Lucia and Costa Rica.



The tournament will crown the Confederation champion at this age level, and qualify four teams to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup Chile 2015. The top team from each group after round-robin play advance to the World Cup and the other two will be determined by the results of the final day elimination matches.

The new CONCACAF Under-17 Men’s tournament format has increased the number of set games to five for each competing nation, up from two in previous editions of the Championship. The new format has been created to favor development and competition.

 
Staff
Shawn Cooper Head Coach
Christopher Gouveia Manager
Muhammed Isa Technical Analyst
Ross Russell Assistant Coach
Gilbert Bateau Assistant Coach
Devin Elcock Equipment Manager
Roger Ryan Physio
Michael Taylor Physio
Players
Levi Fernandez (GK) Naparima College/ Civic Centre FC
Tyrek James (GK) Presentation College/ Civic Centre FC
Isaiah Garcia (DF) Shiva Boys/ W Connection
Darnell Hospedales (DF) Presentation College/ Civic Centre FC
Keston Julien (DF) Presentation College/ W Connection
Kierron Mason (DF) Naparima College/ W Connection
Shirwin Noel (DF) Presentation College/ W Connection
Tekay Hoyce (DF) East Mucurapo/ St Ann’s Rangers
Isaiah Hudson (MF) Naparima College/ W Connection
Kareem Riley (MF) Naparima College/ W Connection
John Paul Rochford (MF) Queen’s Royal College/ FC 1 Santa Rosa
Joshua Burnett (MF) Players Development Academy (USA)
Shobal Celestine (MF) Naparima College/ Civic Centre FC
Noah Powder (MF) New York Red Bulls (USA)
Morgan Bruce (MF) Stevenage FC (England)
Shakeem Patrick (MF) St Anthony’s College/ St Ann’s Rangers
Kishon Hackshaw (MF) Trinity College East/ San Juan Jabloteh
Jerren Nixon (FW) Philadelphia Union (USA)
Jeankeon Alexander (FW) San Juan North Secondary/ San Juan Jabloteh
Chaz Burnett (FW) Players Development Academy (USA)
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on February 14, 2015, 04:57:22 PM
Hope to see vast improvement from the performance at the Caribbean Cup in Haiti last year.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on February 14, 2015, 06:43:52 PM
Jus combine Naps and Pres and  call it George ..why bring in other players it won't a difference..

have training sessions on Naps ground...why go thru all dis trouble of gettin passport and dat nonsense...
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: madness on February 15, 2015, 09:00:26 AM
@Coache. r u a clown... why should say to only play naps and pres and we have talent outside of trinidad. chaz & josh are my friend sons and here are some videos u be the judge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jERDmOsgrG4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GRwfNjkoRA

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on February 15, 2015, 11:53:03 AM
Coache and Madness

The boys leaving today for Panama , lets stay positive and encourage them ALL. I have a Jamaican friend who's son playing on their U17 and he telling me its the same local vs. foreign born non sense on reggaeboyz forum.  With some talking but Cavalier and others about Cornwall...the British have premier league and they leave us fighting over secondary school football. Ask Jamaicans what would have happen if Sturridge and Sterling decide to play for Jamaica, all the foreign talk DONE!

We have to stand for excellence wherever it comes from, past records of predominately local players show that you need to mix. If America bringing German based, Mexican based, British based and local USA players how the hell we could compete with a small sample of 1.5 million people; not to mention one of FIFA WORST FA, weak Pro League and best talent playing secondary school football.

This foreign vs. local thing is throughout the Caribbean it even exists in the US national team when Klinsman bring in players and drop Donovan. Frankly, Trinidad and Jamaica too small to have that internal problem, we must stand for excellence. Let's remember a predominately LOCAL team went to Haiti and had to squeeze in the back door to qualify, how can you take that same team to a higher level tournament. Kudos to the Coaches for recognizing the need to upgrade technically, physically and emotionally.

For us on forums and with kids we have to STOP this NAPS, Pres, local vs. foreign stupidity. If you don't even know what formation the the coach playing how yuh talking? If you don't know if a player is selected because he can play wing back, center half and holding midfield in case of injury what yuh talking?  Some don't even know if the player left footed, right footed or good with both feet; so what yuh taking?

My point is wi on the forum need to get educated about what we talking or is just rum shop talk online.

The team selected is the best possible of available players, lets ALL get behind the boys so we can finish in TOP 3. Either win the group or get into one of play off spots.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: maxg on February 15, 2015, 12:12:25 PM
Like yuh new...but most ah d talk "is just rum shop talk online" as most online talk is    :D
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: amwood on February 15, 2015, 02:03:38 PM
Well said Tobago...
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 15, 2015, 02:25:32 PM
U-17 MEN'S TEAM OFF TO PANAMA FOR TRAINING CAMP AHEAD OF CONCACAF QUALIFIERS

Staff
Shawn Cooper Head Coach
Christopher Gouveia Manager
Muhammed Isa Technical Analyst
Ross Russell Assistant Coach
Gilbert Bateau Assistant Coach
Devin Elcock Equipment Manager
Roger Ryan Physio
Michael Taylor Physio
Players
Levi Fernandez (GK) Naparima College/ Civic Centre FC
Tyrek James (GK) Presentation College/ Civic Centre FC
Isaiah Garcia (DF) Shiva Boys/ W Connection
Darnell Hospedales (DF) Presentation College/ Civic Centre FC
Keston Julien (DF) Presentation College/ W Connection
Kierron Mason (DF) Naparima College/ W Connection
Shirwin Noel (DF) Presentation College/ W Connection
Tekay Hoyce (DF) East Mucurapo/ St Ann’s Rangers
Isaiah Hudson (MF) Naparima College/ W Connection
Kareem Riley (MF) Naparima College/ W Connection
John Paul Rochford (MF) Queen’s Royal College/ FC 1 Santa Rosa
Joshua Burnett (MF) Players Development Academy (USA)
Shobal Celestine (MF) Naparima College/ Civic Centre FC
Noah Powder (MF) New York Red Bulls (USA)
Morgan Bruce (MF) Stevenage FC (England)
Shakeem Patrick (MF) St Anthony’s College/ St Ann’s Rangers
Kishon Hackshaw (MF) Trinity College East/ San Juan Jabloteh
Jerren Nixon (FW) Philadelphia Union (USA)
Jeankeon Alexander (FW) San Juan North Secondary/ San Juan Jabloteh
Chaz Burnett (FW) Players Development Academy (USA)

i guess the arsenal youngster's paperwork did not come through in time
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: madness on February 15, 2015, 03:00:40 PM
allyuh i do support de team a 100% pass meh a STAG nah  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on February 15, 2015, 03:13:59 PM
Here we go with the friendship ting again, but anyways, pass meh a burger, barbecue chicken, hotdogs, doh forget the buns dem, dee blunt, hennessy, de video of Phase II, winning or losing panorama, and the sexy ladies dem. Yes, dread.
By the by, the fifa officer like the way ttfa and concacaf developing nicely. Irrespective of recent selections of shady characters to recent positions of promise. Like the people of this region are stupid and not aware of what is going on in the world.
By the way, I have six members of meh very distant family living in Laventille, but I cyah produce videos of dem, dey kinda wearing bandanas an ting, but dem fellas rell young and good an ting. Yuh tinker dey could mek the team?? Watch how yuh answer dat, ehhh.......
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: madness on February 15, 2015, 03:16:01 PM
chaz & josh r a trinjersey product... now here's my nephew [watch] https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10206315285864409 - he's planning to go to a D1 school in new jersey named monmouth
http://www.monmouthhawks.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPID=7668&SPSID=67855
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 15, 2015, 06:24:59 PM
chaz & josh r a trinjersey product... now here's my nephew [watch] https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10206315285864409 - he's planning to go to a D1 school in new jersey named monmouth
http://www.monmouthhawks.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPID=7668&SPSID=67855

the vid does not show
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 16, 2015, 08:22:06 PM
U-17 men lose first warm up to Panama.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Trinidad and Tobago’s National Under 17 Men’s team went under 4-0 to Panama’s U-17s in their first training match in Panama City today as they fine tune for the upcoming CONCACAF Final Round of World Cup qualification.

T&T will face Panama again on Wednesday in their second outing. Head Coach Shawn Cooper said the game proved to be firm test for T&T.

“It was a very good exercise for us. The scoreline was not what we would have wanted but that’s not the most important thing for us at the moment. We’re working on a few aspects of our game play in relation to how we will face the teams we are up against in the Group stage in Honduras," Cooper said tonight.

“The team is still gelling at the moment and today’s match was part of the process towards achieving that,” he added.

T&T’s opening game in Honduras is against Guatemala at the Francisco Morazan Stadium, San Pedro Sula on February 27.

T&T, which qualified as the best third placed team from the Caribbean, will also face host Honduras, Jamaica, USA and Cuba, in Group A. Group B includes Canada, Haiti, Panama, Mexico, St Lucia and Costa Rica.

The tournament will crown the Confederation champion at this age level, and qualify four teams to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup Chile 2015. The top team from each group after round-robin play advance to the World Cup and the other two will be determined by the results of the final day elimination matches.

The new CONCACAF Under-17 Men’s tournament format has increased the number of set games to five for each competing nation, up from two in previous editions of the Championship. The new format has been created to favor development and competition.

The 20-man Squad.

Goalkeepers

Levi Fernandez (Naparima College / Point Fortin Civic FC), Tyrek James (Presentation College/ Point Fortin Civic FC).

Defenders

Isaiah Garcia (Shiva Boys / W Connection), Darnell Hospedales (Presentation College / Civic Centre FC), Keston Julien (Presentation College / W Connection), Kierron Mason (Naparima College / W Connection), Shirwin Noel (Presentation College / W Connection), Tekay Hoyce (East Mucurapo / St Ann’s Rangers).

Midfielders

Isaiah Hudson (Naparima College / W Connection), Kareem Riley (Naparima College / W Connection), John Paul Rochford (Queen’s Royal College / FC Santa Rosa), Joshua Burnett (Players Development Academy – USA), Shobal Celestine (Naparima College / Civic Centre FC), Noah Powder (New York Red Bulls – USA), Morgan Bruce (Stevenage FC – England), Shakeem Patrick (St Anthony’s College / St Ann’s Rangers), Kishon Hackshaw (Trinity College East / San Juan Jabloteh).

Forwards

Jerren Nixon (Philadelphia Union – USA), Jeankeon Alexander (San Juan North Secondary / San Juan Jabloteh), Chaz Burnett (Players Development Academy – USA).

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 17, 2015, 07:39:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/RgxHvngkyDg

panama may just be that good look at the guatemala score
https://www.youtube.com/v/muCU_9OdJ0U
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on February 17, 2015, 09:36:38 PM
We just let dem score all dem goals just to make dem feel like they dat good.....watch and see next time we hittin dem fuh six...
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on February 17, 2015, 10:16:18 PM
Hear nah I could swear  I write ting before on dis site... and ting  disappearing...dis rel interesting...because I recall writing someting bout how dis site was only a place where real constructive criticism of the state of football  is not acceptable  because this site is actually an arm of the TTFF...and it disappear...just vanish jus so..

I can't remember what kind of ism dey call dis....Totalitarianism/Nationalism/Fascism...

Censorship for those who speak candidly about National matters which doesn't glorify and inflate Nationalistic ideals...whatever they are...

Distraction...deception..and above all flag waving ...or using the national flag as a tool to create  distraction and deception is business as usual in all things Trinidad.

The result ..the citizens would be unable to think outside the box ..
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on February 18, 2015, 01:43:31 PM
I like reading the Trinidad Newspapers online for the over-sensational headlines. I find it amusing.

'School Is Out In Panama'. No, no, that is my headline but it should be in one of dem newspapers.

But this one is. 'Sancho lifts under 17s on eve of qualifiers against Panama'. In it, he talked about "Pride" and "Country". Results? Panama 4 T&T 0.
He also said he knows that Cooper and the TTFA did an excellent job of preparing this team for the u17 tournament. What? Did he just say "an excellent job of preparing this team"?
Results Panama 4 T&T 0.
Cooper said after the 4 - 0 schooling that the lost meant nothing because the team is still gelling like Jell-o but at the same time it was not the kind of result they wanted. It was a "useful exercise". Another "useful exercise". As in what? Do you mean like, sit-ups, push-ups, a five mile run, like mountain climbers, 1,000 t-bones? You mean like those?
Cooper reminded us that "We have a lot of things that we need to work on for the tournament". You think?
The defense is full of holes like Swiss cheese. The midfield cannot control the flow of the game because they have no game. The forwards cannot hit the broad side of a barn and the keeper cannot keep the ball out of his net. That is a lot of stuff to correct in 9 days. Don't correct those things and you are looking at the abrupt ending of another "useful exercise".
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 18, 2015, 02:36:56 PM
Has Fuentes been fired?

He has not done anything on this team. He came out his hole to post an article for Matouk and dem and disappear. It doh have ah Matouk or one ah them on this team? Not a video, not and interview, nada.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on February 18, 2015, 03:07:40 PM
Our boys playing Panama U17 again, looking for an improved result today. Watching the video its evident that these games will help the boys tremendously. The first goal scored with 5 TnT players and the goalie closer to the ball than the one Panamanian. The second goal with 5 TnT players defending 3 Panamanians, unfortunately our center backs were two far apart, not sure who is/was wing back covering. In a 4-3-3 the midfielders must push the play wide and back, this did not happen. The boys allowed Panama to enter danger area too easily.

As I said before our boys are technically and physically equal; our success will be determined by emotional/psychological maturity and tactical awareness. Panama is a good team with a good becoming very good Federation so this is the type of challenge we needed now. By starting with tough competition then probably playing lesser clubs to rebuild confidence, I think the TTFA is moving in the right direction to prepare the boys considering the failure to do it earlier.

Lets wait and see the results.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 18, 2015, 04:25:03 PM
Has Fuentes been fired?

He has not done anything on this team. He came out his hole to post an article for Matouk and dem and disappear. It doh have ah Matouk or one ah them on this team? Not a video, not and interview, nada.

ttfa not paying for him to go to these tournaments ........... cost savings
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on February 18, 2015, 05:41:03 PM
The news I am receiving is we lost 5-0 today to the Panamanians, haven't seen any video yet so not sure how to comment on the result.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 18, 2015, 06:11:44 PM
The news I am receiving is we lost 5-0 today to the Panamanians, haven't seen any video yet so not sure how to comment on the result.



5-0 and 2 red cards.
Title: Sancho inspires U 17's
Post by: palos on February 18, 2015, 06:24:29 PM

TO COLLECK 4 FROM PANAMA (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/U-17s-tackle-Panama-again-292300311.html)

INSPIRATION (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/Sancho-inspires-U-17s-292296931.html)
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on February 18, 2015, 06:55:21 PM
9-0 in two games vs. Panama? Worsened by 2 red cards in a friendly warm up came.  Lawd. This is a wake up call, I watched the videos on somoslasele.com/videos/la-sele/ too much walking and not enough HUNGER! Panama was moving at least three gears faster than us, we going to have to understand this pace of play at this level.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 18, 2015, 08:43:51 PM
9-0 in two games vs. Panama? Worsened by 2 red cards in a friendly warm up came.  Lawd. This is a wake up call, I watched the videos on somoslasele.com/videos/la-sele/ too much walking and not enough HUNGER! Panama was moving at least three gears faster than us, we going to have to understand this pace of play at this level.

remember  we were beaten 3 nil by haiti and lost to st lucia plus lack of prep warm up matches ...... don't expect to much from this team
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: madness on February 18, 2015, 08:47:44 PM
well.... shawn cooper is not ready.... we need a hart or a coach like the women senior team.... now.... it's going to get worst....
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: palos on February 18, 2015, 11:15:45 PM
Some generations (by that I mean crop of youngsters) are just not able

The U20 group that just lost in Jamaica was/is a special group

Unfortunately, this U17 crop doesn't appear to be so talented.

But....despite the drubbings, this is good exposure for them and hopefully they can learn from the experience and improve
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 18, 2015, 11:40:54 PM
HIGHLIGHTS of T&T's 5-0 loss to Panama in their second warm-up game.

https://www.youtube.com/v/Ow7Er2nCrcI
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on February 19, 2015, 12:34:36 AM

I hope we not just going to these tournaments to just play for pride. I am sensing another episode of 'the team not good enough at least the exposure will be good'. 
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 19, 2015, 12:40:51 AM
These fellas could hardly run. They looking like the boots to big for dey foot. WTH I seeing. These can never be the best U17s in the country. If so things real bad.

It will be a long 5 games. Buckle in.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 19, 2015, 09:17:23 AM
that is some slack marking ....
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 19, 2015, 09:36:50 AM
Good luck Guys!!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Bianconeri on February 19, 2015, 12:06:00 PM
well.... shawn cooper is not ready.... we need a hart or a coach like the women senior team.... now.... it's going to get worst....

Is is right to quickly blame the coach when they struggle to get warmup games and camps and have to scramble to play Pro league reserve teams and amateur teams instead?
and then they dont even pay them for months? cant be a good environment but they trying their best.
TTFA deserves more of the blame, and chopping and changing coaches is not gonna bring a miraculous recovery
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on February 20, 2015, 06:48:32 AM
Oh GAWD is scared girls on this forum or what? The facts are:

1. The boys lost 4-0 on Monday
2. The coach made some adjusts in training which yield a 0-0 halftime score with our boys playing some excellent football.
3. Then we get 1st red card down to 10 men.
4. Then we get 2nd red card down to 9 men.
5. We lose 5-0, playing with 9 men and giving up two penalty.

If you just looking at 9 goals in two games then you need to look a little deeper. I am an Arsenal fan, I cant remember but somebody give us 8 or 6 last year but we fight on.

Again, we have an excellent crop of boys here but emotionally and tactically they need to develop as a group. The truth is playing against Pro League team and Howard prospects is not good preparation but that was the funding available. They are now learning what it takes to win in Honduras, I expect better results in the next practice matches as they are now coming together.

Support the boys, this is SocaWarriors forum. Its for warriors not complainers, nor whiners. Be a DAMN WARRIOR.





Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on February 20, 2015, 07:12:43 PM
Oh GAWD is scared girls on this forum or what? The facts are:

1. The boys lost 4-0 on Monday
2. The coach made some adjusts in training which yield a 0-0 halftime score with our boys playing some excellent football.
3. Then we get 1st red card down to 10 men.
4. Then we get 2nd red card down to 9 men.
5. We lose 5-0, playing with 9 men and giving up two penalty.

If you just looking at 9 goals in two games then you need to look a little deeper. I am an Arsenal fan, I cant remember but somebody give us 8 or 6 last year but we fight on.

Again, we have an excellent crop of boys here but emotionally and tactically they need to develop as a group. The truth is playing against Pro League team and Howard prospects is not good preparation but that was the funding available. They are now learning what it takes to win in Honduras, I expect better results in the next practice matches as they are now coming together.

Support the boys, this is SocaWarriors forum. Its for warriors not complainers, nor whiners. Be a DAMN WARRIOR.



Nice post.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on February 21, 2015, 02:51:59 AM
Coach not flustered as U-17s suffer second successive defeat to Panama
T&T Express Reports.


With just under a week to go before the opening CONCACAF World Cup qualifier versus Guatemala, National Men’s Under 17 head coach Shawn Cooper is keeping a cool head following this country’s second successive defeat to Panama on Wednesday night.

T&T’s Under 17s went down 5-0 to the hosts after failing to put away the opening two chances on goal for either side in the first half before going on to have two players ejected and conceding further goals in the second half. The result followed a 4-0 shutout to Panama two days earlier.

Cooper though is focusing on maintaining a positive spirit in the T&T camp which was arranged by the TTFA with support from the Ministry of Sport. “It was another tough loss for us but we’re not going to let it push us down. I thought the performance in this second game was an improvement but we are conceding goals badly and the game changed in the second half when the referee send off two of our players,” Cooper said.

“But the players were very disappointed at the end and I’m pleased about that because it shows that they do not like this feeling of defeat and they know they have to dig deeper,” he added.

Cooper said that previous Under 17 teams have gone through challenging builds up in the past including the squad of 2013 which went on to miss out on qualifying for the FIFA Under 17 Word Cup in 2013 short by a single win as they lost 4-2 to host Panama in their final qualifier.

“I’m still seeing us getting up to scratch by the time our first game comes around. We’ve been down this road before. Our opponents in the first game have not had an easy time with us in the past and I believe we can get it right.

“But the main thing is to keep the boys at a good level in terms of spirit and making sure they believe that there is still a whole tournament for them to go out and perform in. The players coming into the squad on this trip have started gelling and generally the team will continue to improve,” Cooper said.

Among the overseas-based players who joined the squad include Philadelphia Union’s Jerren Nixon jnr, younger son of former senior team forward Jerren Nixon, midfielder Morgan Bruce of English club Stevenage Borough, US-based forward Chad Burnett and Joshua Burnett and New York Red Bulls midfielder Noah Power.

T&T’s opening game in Honduras is against Guatemala at the Francisco Morazan Stadium, San Pedro Sula, next Friday. T&T, who qualified as the best third-placed team from the Caribbean, will also face hosts Honduras, Jamaica, USA and Cuba, in Group A. Group B includes Canada, Haiti, Panama, Mexico, St Lucia and Costa Rica.

The tournament will crown the Confederation champion at this age level, and qualify four teams to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup Chile 2015. The top team from each group after round-robin play advance to the World Cup and the other two will be determined by the results of the final day elimination matches.

The new CONCACAF Under-17 Men’s tournament format has increased the number of set games to five for each competing nation, up from two in previous editions of the Championship. The new format has been created to favour development and competition.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 23, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
any news ??
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: madness on February 24, 2015, 05:15:34 AM
i haven't heard any news about the u17 team... but a quick FYI this is wendall moore son profile.

http://www.ussoccer.com/players/2014/03/15/05/06/shaquell-moore
here's wendall moore info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendell_Moore
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 25, 2015, 08:40:02 PM
So the boys okay? Everything good with them? 48 hours before kick off, any word?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on February 25, 2015, 10:13:32 PM
This Coach say he have a Panorama side...he puttin een de final piece to de tune de night before...hear nah allyuh really serious bout football?

Why allyuh keep mamagyin de yutes dem so..

What is de reason fuh spendin money to put all dese people on a plane jus to go and compete...is dis some kind a goodwill to de people..to keep dem occupy..gih dem some hope and allow dem de opportunity to wave a flag fuh Trinidad...

Tell me...wah kindda team is dat...nobody from Tobago..a set a fellas from South no rel hard yutes..ah set a sorfy, passive kindda timid yutes ...no rel goal scorers..allyuh say allyuh bringin yutes from de states..better allyuh bring a whole team from de states...because dat team allyuh have dey ...hm! dat's jokee to de next level.

Panama is a sufferin place ...dem yutes dem hungry..literally..dem Trinidad boys dem belly always full ...dey always playin football ..in a virtual world not dis one...gih dem boys ah XBox..and leh dem represent Trinidad.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on February 27, 2015, 02:55:37 AM
Under-17s meet Guatemala today
T&T Express Reports.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Under-17 Footballers will commence their FIFA Under-17 World Cup qualifying campaign today with a   6.30 p.m. (TT time) game against Guatemala in the opening CONCACAF Under 17 Championship match  at the Estadio Francisco Morazan in Honduras.

The tournament will crown the Confederation champions at this age level, and qualify four teams to the FIFA Under-17 World Cup Chile 2015. The top team from each group after round-robin play will advance to the World Cup and the other two will be determined by the results of the final day elimination matches.

The T&T team arrived in San Pedro Sula, Honduras, on Wednesday following a ten-day training camp in Panama City which was supported by the Ministry of Sport.  Despite suffering two losses there to Panama, the team appears to be in fairly good spirits heading into their first encounter.

The T&T team is  captained by Kareem Riley. Head coach Shawn Cooper believes his current unit will rise to the challenge.

“We’ve settled in here in Honduras. The few days in Panama was a major boost for us as a playing outfit and for the staff also as we were able to fine tune and make the necessary adjustments in relation to how we will approach the matches in the tournament,” Cooper told TTFA Media.

“Generally we are in decent shape, but everything depends on how quickly we settle against Guatemala and take it from there. The first match is always vital and a good result for us will set the momentum going onto the other games” he added.

England-born midfielder Morgan Bruce of Stevenage Borough joined the team in Honduras and was expected to be involved in his first training session last evening.  The rest of the team is ready to go according to Cooper.

Riley will have to rally his troops and much will also depend on the likes of  St Ann’s Rangers defender Tekay Hoyce and US-based players Jerren Nixon, forward Chaz Burnett, New York Red Bulls midfielder Noah Powder and Joshua Burnett.
 
T&T Squad:

Goalkeepers: Levi Fernandez (Naparima College/Civic Centre FC), Tyrek James (Presentation College/Civic Centre FC)

Defenders: Isaiah Garcia (Shiva Boys/W Connection), Darnell Hospedales (Presentation College/Civic Centre FC), Keston Julien (Presentation College/W Connection), Kierron Mason (Naparima College/W Connection), Shirwin Noel (Presentation College/W Connection), Tekay Hoyce (East Mucurapo/St Ann’s Rangers

Midfielders: Isaiah Hudson (Naparima College/W Connection), Kareem Riley (Naparima College/W Connection), John Paul Rochford (Queen’s Royal College/FC 1 Santa Rosa), Joshua Burnett (Players Development Academy (USA), Shobal Celestine (Naparima College/Civic Centre FC), Noah Powder (New York Red Bulls (USA), Morgan Bruce (Stevenage FC (England), Shakeem Patrick (St Anthony’s College/St Ann’s Rangers), Kishon Hackshaw (Trinity College East/San Juan Jabloteh)

Forwards: Jerren Nixon (Philadelphia Union (USA), Jeankeon Alexander (San Juan North Secondary/San Juan Jabloteh), Chaz Burnett (Players Development Academy (USA))

Technical staff: Shawn Cooper (coach), Christopher Gouveia (manager), Muhammed Isa (Technical Analyst), Ross Russell (assistant coach), Gilbert Bateau (assistant coach), Devin Elcock (equipment manager), Roger Ryan (physiotherapist), Michael Taylor (physiotherapist)

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sam on February 27, 2015, 05:57:10 AM

T&T Squad:

Goalkeepers: Levi Fernandez (Naparima College/Civic Centre FC), Tyrek James (Presentation College/Civic Centre FC)

Defenders: Isaiah Garcia (Shiva Boys/W Connection), Darnell Hospedales (Presentation College/Civic Centre FC), Keston Julien (Presentation College/W Connection), Kierron Mason (Naparima College/W Connection), Shirwin Noel (Presentation College/W Connection), Tekay Hoyce (East Mucurapo/St Ann’s Rangers

Midfielders: Isaiah Hudson (Naparima College/W Connection), Kareem Riley (Naparima College/W Connection), John Paul Rochford (Queen’s Royal College/FC 1 Santa Rosa), Joshua Burnett (Players Development Academy (USA), Shobal Celestine (Naparima College/Civic Centre FC), Noah Powder (New York Red Bulls (USA), Morgan Bruce (Stevenage FC (England), Shakeem Patrick (St Anthony’s College/St Ann’s Rangers), Kishon Hackshaw (Trinity College East/San Juan Jabloteh)

Forwards: Jerren Nixon (Philadelphia Union (USA), Jeankeon Alexander (San Juan North Secondary/San Juan Jabloteh), Chaz Burnett (Players Development Academy (USA))


Akeem Garcia and Levi Garcia should be on this team.

That entire defence from Pres and Naps, in fact most of de team.

Cooper is tears we.

Them fellas running like they need a worm out.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: madness on February 27, 2015, 06:38:20 AM
we need to have faith on the current team. let see how good of a coach shawn cooper is.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 27, 2015, 07:43:17 AM

T&T Squad:

Goalkeepers: Levi Fernandez (Naparima College/Civic Centre FC), Tyrek James (Presentation College/Civic Centre FC)

Defenders: Isaiah Garcia (Shiva Boys/W Connection), Darnell Hospedales (Presentation College/Civic Centre FC), Keston Julien (Presentation College/W Connection), Kierron Mason (Naparima College/W Connection), Shirwin Noel (Presentation College/W Connection), Tekay Hoyce (East Mucurapo/St Ann’s Rangers

Midfielders: Isaiah Hudson (Naparima College/W Connection), Kareem Riley (Naparima College/W Connection), John Paul Rochford (Queen’s Royal College/FC 1 Santa Rosa), Joshua Burnett (Players Development Academy (USA), Shobal Celestine (Naparima College/Civic Centre FC), Noah Powder (New York Red Bulls (USA), Morgan Bruce (Stevenage FC (England), Shakeem Patrick (St Anthony’s College/St Ann’s Rangers), Kishon Hackshaw (Trinity College East/San Juan Jabloteh)

Forwards: Jerren Nixon (Philadelphia Union (USA), Jeankeon Alexander (San Juan North Secondary/San Juan Jabloteh), Chaz Burnett (Players Development Academy (USA))


Akeem Garcia and Levi Garcia should be on this team.

That entire defence from Pres and Naps, in fact most of de team.

Cooper is tears we.

Them fellas running like they need a worm out.



them guys are to old sam
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 27, 2015, 11:11:01 AM
Anyone find any links?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on February 27, 2015, 02:48:09 PM
1-0 Guatemala already

http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/azulyblanco.co/stream3.php
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on February 27, 2015, 02:48:28 PM
2-0 Now
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 27, 2015, 02:51:18 PM
Anyone find any links?

LIVE STREAM: Guatemala U-17 vs T&T U-17
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/guatedecorazon-tv
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 27, 2015, 03:05:25 PM
T&T’S STARTING XI vs Guatemala:

Trinidad & Tobago: - 1.Levi Fernandez; 3.Keston Julien, 4.Tekay Hoyce, 5.Shirwin Noel, 6.Kareem Riley (capt), 7.Shakeem Patrick, 8.Joshua Burnett, 16.Shobal Celestin, 14.Isaiah Hudson, 19.Noah Powder, 11.Jerren Nixon Jr.

COACH: - Shawn Cooper.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 27, 2015, 03:18:38 PM
39th minute: T&T is reduced to 10 men as Shirwin Noel is given a red card for a dangerous high tackle.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 27, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
GOALLLLLLL! T&T pulls one back through Keston Julien in the 45th minute.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 27, 2015, 03:27:05 PM
GOAL (46’): Abel Lemus restores Guatemala’s 2-goal cushion.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 27, 2015, 03:29:04 PM
HALF-TIME: Guatemala 3-1 T&T
GOALS (GUA): Diego Raymundo (2’), Victor Valdez (9’), Abel Lemus (46’)
GOALS (T&T): Keston Julien (45’)
RED CARDS (T&T): Shirwin Noel (39’)
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 27, 2015, 03:44:35 PM
them guys all over the place
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on February 27, 2015, 03:48:58 PM
lord
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 27, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
GOAL (54’): Diego Raymundo scores his second of the match as Guatemala takes a 4-1 lead over T&T.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 27, 2015, 04:33:38 PM
FINAL: T&T kicked off the 2015 CONCACAF U-17 Championships in the worst possible way with a 4-1 loss to Guatemala. Guatemala’s goals were scored by  Diego Raymundo (2’, 45’+2), Victor Valdez (9’), and Abel Lemus (46’).

T&T’s lone item was scored by Keston Julien. T&T played with 10-men for more than half the match after Shirwin Noel was red-carded in the 39th minute for a dangerous high tackle.

It doesn’t get any easier for T&T as they face the USA next on March 2nd.

Teams

Trinidad & Tobago: - 1.Levi Fernandez; 3.Keston Julien, 4.Tekay Hoyce, 5.Shirwin Noel (Red 39), 6.Kareem Riley (capt), 7.Shakeem Patrick, 8.Joshua Burnett (10.Morgan Bruce 46th), 16.Shobal Celestin, 14.Isaiah Hudson (13.Kishon Hackshaw 76th), 19.Noah Powder, 11.Jerren Nixon Jr., (9.Chaz Burnett 56th).

COACH: - Shawn Cooper.

Unused Substitutes: - 20.Tyrek James (GK); 2.Isaiah Garcia, 15.Darnell Hospedales, 12.Kierron Mason, 18.John-Paul Rochford.

Guatemala: - 12.Gilder Lemus; 2.David Ramos, 4.Fernando Fuentes, 5.Mario Rodas, 17.Abel Lemus (20.Richard Rodriguez 56th), 6.Stefan Behrens (16.Moises Orellana 73rd), 10.John Mendez, 11.Diego Raymundo, 13.Victor Valdez, 15.Armando Aroche, 7.Esteban Garcia (19.Oliver Diaz 90th).

COACH: - Juan Funes.

Video: - Guatemala vs Trinidad & Tobago Highlights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e_uFfFp2PI)

Stats

Guatemala  v  Trinidad & Tobago
10  SHOTS  9
1  Assists  0
7  Corner kicks  5
1  Offsides  2
15  Fouls  14
8  Clearances  12
11  Recoveries  2

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on February 27, 2015, 05:30:25 PM
Disappointing but not surprising. The coach himself said his players were limited before he left. Only a few games of preparation so it was expected. 
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 27, 2015, 05:51:47 PM
HIGHLIGHTS of T&T’s 4-1 loss to Guatemala.

https://www.youtube.com/v/1e_uFfFp2PI
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 27, 2015, 05:59:13 PM
Defence and the gk not the same page at all. 3 of the goal are miscommunication between the 2 center backs and the keeper. Next game guys. This one gone. Forget it.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 27, 2015, 06:00:36 PM
US clobbering Cuba. 3-0 so far. It could have more.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on February 27, 2015, 06:34:36 PM
Steupse. Just remember the youth is the future senior players. We must make the necessary changes from the youth level.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 27, 2015, 06:52:28 PM
UsA 5 - Cuba 0
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 27, 2015, 08:58:50 PM
I really enjoyed watching Cuba play. I liked their approach to the game, a bit naive, and fearless. They gave the USA a run for their money and with a bit of luck could have had 2 or 3 goals.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on February 27, 2015, 09:33:21 PM
Only a few games of preparation...dey couldda have 40 games of preparation de result would have been the same..

allyuh rel have jokes..I only see highlights and I could tell allyuh from de highlights de team have no striker..no defense and de tactics poor..

Thank God fuh de #3 and de man who take de corner in de end ah de game..other than dat...it rainin goals on Coopers panorama side.

When allyuh goin to pay some rel coaches and stop mamaguyin de yutes dem...oh Gawd man!

Yuh don't need games to practice defending corner kicks..is either de corner  long , short , inswinging, outswinging..or any combination thereof..

Yuh don't need games to practice defending freekicks..yuh could start from de goal-line and move to de half..and work different angles..

De people dem score goals from set plays...yuh don't need games fuh dat!

People gettin A licence all over America hire somebody who understand basic football and stop de chupidness oh Gawd man!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on February 27, 2015, 09:39:01 PM
And what is de deal wid dese little keepers...allyuh doh have a height limit?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on February 28, 2015, 02:58:22 AM
Guatemala tops Trinidad in U-17 opener.
CONCACAF.COM.


Diego Raymundo struck for two goals and Guatemala defeated 10-man Trinidad & Tobago 4-1 in the opening match of the 2015 CONCACAF Under-17 Championship (CU17) on Friday at the Estadio Francisco Morazan.

The result gave the Guatemalans an early advantage in Group A with USA-Cuba and Honduras-Jamaica set to close out the tripleheader later in the day.

It was an offensive explosion from a side that was shutout four times in its last five matches in the competition.  In fact, the output ranked as Guatemala’s best ever in a CU17 game.

The Central Americans were able to capitalize on some uncertainty in the Trinidadian defense and, as a result, went ahead in just the second minute. David Ramos delivered a corner kick from the right side that found the head of Fernando Fuentes. The Trinidadians could not react quickly enough to clear and with three teammates prepared to score, Raymundo was first to jab the ball home.

Seven minutes later, Guatemala took advantage of another defensive miscue to double its lead.  Victor Valdez lofted a right-sided free kick into the box with his left foot. The ball bounced in front of goalkeeper Levi Fernandez, who appeared to think that it would be headed away, and into the back of the net.

In the 39th minute, the Caribbean side was reduced a player, when Shirwin Noel was shown a straight red card for a high foot into the chest Stefan Behrens.

Despite being down a player, Trinidad responded in a positive fashion, getting on the scoreboard through a brilliant individual effort by Keston Julien in the 45th minute. The 16-year-old defender burst into the left side of the Guatemalan box, weaving his way through the defense, before drilling a left-footed shot into the far-side netting from eight-yards out.

Trinidadian joy was short-lived, however, as Abel Lemus restored Guatemala’s two-goal lead in the second minute of stoppage time.  The Municipal youth standout intercepted an errant pass and raced down the middle into the box, before chipping from 12 yards beyond Fernandez’s reach.

Both teams emerged from the break in attacking moods, but – thanks to some good fortune -- Guatemala got the goal that provided the margin of difference in the 54th minute.  Fernandez came far out of the box to make a clearance on a high, hopeful ball down the middle, but was not successful.  Raymundo got in between two defenders to gain possession and beat Tekay Hoyce to tally from close range.

Trinidad nearly halved the deficit in the 76th minute, only for Hoyce to head off the left post after Noah Powder’s corner kick went through the hands of goalkeeper Gilder Lemus.

Guatemala returns to action on Monday against Jamaica, while Trinidad will look to bounce when it takes on the United States.

NOTES: Guatemala was the last team to qualify for the competition after prevailing over El Salvador in a two-legged playoff, 2-1 on aggregate.

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Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on February 28, 2015, 06:18:18 AM
Post-game interview with Keston Julien

https://www.youtube.com/v/Y-pKkTEf1Ig
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 28, 2015, 06:32:51 AM
I really enjoyed watching Cuba play. I liked their approach to the game, a bit naive, and fearless. They gave the USA a run for their money and with a bit of luck could have had 2 or 3 goals.

True also. I did not mentioned that aspect of Cuba. Played well but a bit naive. There a short midfielder for them. He was substituted later. Good lil player.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on February 28, 2015, 07:23:06 AM
Not the start we needed, have to put this one behind us as a big game next. A quick recap:

1. Referee was ridiculous to give a straight red card or even a foul on to our defender.
2. We were reasonably organized but shocking players by defense and keeper.

I am still positive on this group because we can see they have ability, however defense and goal keeper have to improve.

This is not an attack on this keeper but after watching the U20 in Jamaica and some of those keeper errors. Its obvious, we need to improve everywhere but especially in keeper training and preparation. I don't know if our keepers are short, tall, slim, overweight, tactically unaware but since they are young these errors have to improve. The keeper trainer/coach need to put some work in to prepare for the next game.

Furthermore, nationally we have to recognize its too important a position to not provide some specialized, focused and exclusive time for keepers. Bring in some quality coaches, maybe Shaka can come work with these boys mentally to help them to play at the higher level.

Let's get ready for the USA, we are not out of the tournament. GO Warriors
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on February 28, 2015, 09:00:05 AM
I am hating on this team's performance right now. As far as I am concerned this tournament is over for this group and the one to come after them. Yuh cannot plant corn and expect peas. Yeah, the players were indecisive and it cost them but the bottom line is they were poorly coached and poorly prepared. Who are they beating? The USA? Honduras maybe? They are the third best team from Concacaf, behind Cuba and Jamaica. If you liked how Cuba played against the USA, you are going to hate how they are going to play against Trinidad. They, Trinidad, may end up going 0 - 5 in this tournament.

After seeing this kid's reaction to getting a red card for stomping that kid in his chest told me he didn't think he did anything wrong. I expect him to do it again. It should have been two red cards instead of one.
Onto another issue. How can Sancho say the ttfa and Cooper did an excellent job of preparing this team? That to me is propaganda on a Jack Warner level.
So now, just sit back and listen to the familiar rhetoric coming out of this camp. Pride and country. Hope. We will bounce back for the next game. La de da.

When the kids win, the friggin ttfa takes credit for the win and blames it on the development program. When the kids lose the silence is deafening. No accountability, no responsibility, no reformulating of strategies to correct the wrongs, no culpability, no reflection, no questions, no shame in their game. You saw it last year for the girls u17 & u20s and you saw it for the boys u20s and if you pay close attention you will see it again.
So for me, that performance yesterday is a reflection on the kids, the coach and his staff and the ongoing saga of the ttfa. People should resign.

As I said before, the defense has more holez than Swiss cheese, the midfield cannot control the flow of the game because they have no game, the forwards cannot hit the broad side of a barn, and the keeper cannot keep the ball out of his net. You now have 48 hours to fix that. If you don't, this tournament is over.

Good luck, Mr. Phelps.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sam on February 28, 2015, 09:32:32 AM
That is de worst keeper ah ever see.

They need to sen he back to T&T right away and never call him again.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 28, 2015, 11:03:17 AM
Nah man that red was hard. The kid did not stamp the player in the chest purposely. The ball bounced high and he swung high the Guatemalan player rushed in after our player swung. The ball was up the field before the ref blew the whistle. The ref did not blow until the acting from the Guatemalan player. You realize when the physio came on the field they was rubbing an ice pack on his leg and ankle. We were terrible, but that red was a harsh decision.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on February 28, 2015, 12:10:24 PM
Sam

Levi Garcia turns 18 November 20th, this a U17 tournamant. What yuh want?

I agree the keeper make me cry, but look at all our keepers on U15, U17 and U20 is a systematic problem. So many keeper mistakes on U20 in Jamaica, so is part the players but mainly us for not preparing them. Ah cant believe 10 year old boys dreaming to be Shaka, Cech, Iker, Buffon, Loiris or Manuel Neuer. Everybody want to be Yorke, Latapy, Ronaldo, Messi, Ronaldinho, Xavi, or Yaya .etc so the best athletes usually at a young age don't end up in the goal mouth.

I don't know the keeper but lets remember is somebody son, a youth we have to be positive and supportive. Don't destroy him like dat.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on February 28, 2015, 12:13:37 PM
Nah man that red was hard. The kid did not stamp the player in the chest purposely. The ball bounced high and he swung high the Guatemalan player rushed in after our player swung. The ball was up the field before the ref blew the whistle. The ref did not blow until the acting from the Guatemalan player. You realize when the physio came on the field they was rubbing an ice pack on his leg and ankle. We were terrible, but that red was a harsh decision.

Red card is total rubbish, maybe not even a foul as the Guatemala player miscontrol and is free ball.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 28, 2015, 03:44:52 PM
Mexico 2 vs Panama 1

2nd half on now.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 28, 2015, 03:50:54 PM
Mexico 3 vs Panama 1

Panama killing Mexico 10 minutes into the 2nd half. Mexico go up the field get a free kick, sweet diving header for a goal. 
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 28, 2015, 04:28:12 PM
Mexico 3 vs Panama 1 Final
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on February 28, 2015, 04:30:20 PM
We are so far behind the region. Watching the quality of the Panamanians and to reflect on our quality is a bit disheartening. We need to develop a plan and implement it quickly.

What is the TTFA doing right now?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on February 28, 2015, 05:01:41 PM
Nah man that red was hard. The kid did not stamp the player in the chest purposely. The ball bounced high and he swung high the Guatemalan player rushed in after our player swung. The ball was up the field before the ref blew the whistle. The ref did not blow until the acting from the Guatemalan player. You realize when the physio came on the field they was rubbing an ice pack on his leg and ankle. We were terrible, but that red was a harsh decision.

Red card is total rubbish, maybe not even a foul as the Guatemala player miscontrol and is free ball.

All TT players and coaches should know by now TT and Carib  players will very seldom get the benefit of doubt against Central American teams. That going on for years. Yes his foot was high and did in fact touch the Guatemalan. But barely. He cleared the ball and the opponent ran into him. The Trini was not malicious at all. There was no way our guy could have brought his foot down and avoided brushing the Guatemalan stomach. We lucky it was not in area. It would have been penal.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 02, 2015, 10:17:54 AM
Well Boys, today will test your resolve. Hope you had a good night sleep and you are ready to work hard and put in a quality shift. Let go play the best game you have ever played.


:duel:                                                                                     :flamethrower:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 02, 2015, 01:05:29 PM
The TTFA doing the bare minimum on showcasing these games, this tournament and these young players.


Twitter Post


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That led to a Facebook Post


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Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on March 02, 2015, 02:49:16 PM
jamaica up 1 -0 playing all over guatemala

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/guatedecorazon-tv
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Post by: Tallman on March 02, 2015, 03:16:41 PM
U-17 MNT Continues World Cup Qualifying against Trinidad & Tobago Tonight
ussoccer.com


The U.S. Under-17 Men’s National Team resumes Group A play at the 2015 CONCACAF U-17 Championship when it faces Trinidad & Tobago at 6 p.m. ET on Monday, March 2, at Estadio Francisco Morazán in San Pedro Sula, Honduras. The game is live on FOX Sports 2 and Univision Deportes, and fans can follow on Twitter @ussoccer_ynt and @ussoccer_esp.

The USA took hold of first place in the group with a resounding 5-0 victory against Cuba on Feb. 27. Joe Gallardo led the way with three goals, while Hugo Arellano and Alejandro Zendejas each contributed a goal. The U-17 MNT’s plus-5 goal differential puts the team ahead of Guatemala (1-0-0, plus-3 goal differential) and host Honduras (1-0-0, plus-2 goal differential).

Trinidad & Tobago dropped its group opener 4-1 go Guatemala on Feb. 27. Keston Julien’s 45th-minute goal cut Guatemala’s lead to 2-1, but Guatemala responded in first-half stoppage time and padded its lead early in the second half.

Here is breakdown of the USA’s history against Trinidad & Tobago in this tournament:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on March 02, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
U-17 MNT vs. Trinidad & Tobago Preview

https://www.youtube.com/v/dip7jvKhSso
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 02, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
Guatemala 1 vs Jamaica 2 90'
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on March 02, 2015, 05:38:32 PM
GOAL (31’): USA leads T&T 1-0 on a free-kick by Joe Gallardo Jr.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on March 02, 2015, 05:52:35 PM
HALF-TIME: T&T 0-1 USA. Goal scored in the 31st minute by Joe Gallardo Jr.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on March 02, 2015, 05:59:29 PM
who is 8 ??  and 10 ??..

I like the look of the left back also
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on March 02, 2015, 06:04:41 PM
who is 8 ??  and 10 ??..

I like the look of the left back also

8. Joshua Burnett (US-born).
10. Morgan Bruce (English-born, plays with Stevenage Borough)
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Big Magician on March 02, 2015, 06:06:16 PM
thanks Tallman...Burnett looks the part.. Bruce got some talent also
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on March 02, 2015, 06:08:18 PM
thanks Tallman...Burnett looks the part.. Bruce got some talent also
Joshua's brother Chaz is on the bench.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on March 02, 2015, 06:41:12 PM
GOAL (71’): USA takes a 2-0 lead over T&T. Goal scored by Haji Wright.
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Post by: Tallman on March 02, 2015, 06:56:40 PM
FINAL: T&T suffers a 2-0 loss to the United States at the 2015 CONCACAF U-17 Championship. Goals for the USA were scored by Joe Gallardo Jr. (31’) and Haji Wright (71’). T&T’s next match will be against Honduras on Thursday, March 5th.
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Post by: Deeks on March 02, 2015, 07:00:31 PM
Well! Hope these guys learn from this. This is the precursor to the U20. this should be a learning experience. Good luck in the future.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 02, 2015, 07:20:29 PM
Not the result we would of wanted but certainly improvement defensively against a much better team than Quatemala(Jamaica beat Guatemala 2-1). Our keeper look much more confident and the back 4 really kept it tighter.  Three games to go, we can still finish with 9 points and have a chance for play off spot, its not looking good especially with -5 goal difference but we have to push. This is all in preparation for U20 as its the first international tournament this group has played.

We need a little more composure to play out the back and through the midfield to show the promise that is in this team. We would expect Honduras to beat Cuba tonight, with Honduras next on Thursday a victory is a must or we will be home early.

Projected Standings  w/Honduras Victory

USA            6
Honduras     6
Guatemala   3
Jamaica       3
TnT             0
Cuba           0





Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on March 03, 2015, 05:04:38 AM
U.S. blanks Trinidad & Tobago 2-0.
ussoccer.com.


SAN PEDRO SULA, Honduras (March 2, 2015) – The U.S. Under-17 Men’s National Team scored a goal in each half to defeat Trinidad & Tobago 2-0 in Group A play at the 2015 CONCACAF U-17 Championship at Estadio Francisco Morazán.

Joe Gallardo scored his tournament-leading fourth goal from of a free kick in the 31st minute and Haji Wright tallied his first goal in qualifying in the 71st minute.

The U.S. is atop Group A with a 2-0-0 record and plus-7 goal differential, while Trinidad & Tobago falls to 0-2-0 and a minus-5 goal differential.

The USA next faces Guatemala at 6 p.m. ET on Thursday, March 5, at Estadio Francisco Morazán (FOX Sports 2, FOX Sports GO, Univision Deportes). Trinidad will face host Honduras.

Earlier Monday in Group A action, Jamaica defeated Guatemala 2-1. Guatemala falls to 1-1-0 with a plus-2 goal differential and Jamaica improves to 1-1-0 with a minus-1 goal differential. Cuba (0-1-0, minus-5) and Honduras (1-0-0, plus-2) face each other in Monday night’s last Group A game.

Goal Scoring Rundown:

USA – Joe Gallardo, 31st minute: Gallardo drew a foul just above the box, and the USA forward took the subsequent free kick with confidence. Gallardo shot low to the right of Trinidad & Tobago’s seven-man wall and past diving goalkeeper Levi Fernandez, into the right of the frame for the lead. USA 1, TRI 0

USA – Haji Wright (Christian Pulisic), 71st minute: Pulisic played a long ball from midfield to Wright down the left side. Wright had a couple steps on Trinidad & Tobago defender Tekay Hoyce and shot left-footed to the inside of the far right post, past Levi Fernandez, for the two-goal lead. Wright now has 27 goals in 31 games during his U-17 MNT tenure. USA 2, TRI 0 (FINAL)

Key Saves and Defensive Stops:

TRI – Noah Powder and Tekay Hoyce, 9th minute: The USA had back-to-back scoring chances shortly after a set piece. After Christian Pulisic’s corner kick from the left side bounced through traffic, Alejandro Zendejas crossed the ball back in from the right. Haji Wright headed it toward the left side of the frame and Powder made a key goal line clearance. Joe Gallardo kept things alive with a shot at the near left post and Hoyce deflected it out for a USA corner kick.

USA – Hugo Arellano, 35th minute: Trinidad & Tobago did not create too many clear-cut chances, but a lofted cross by Kareem Riley caused some concern for the USA. Goalkeeper Will Pulisic was unable to cleanly deflect the ball away, but his center back and team captain was up to the task with the clearance near the six-yard box.

TRI – Levi Fernandez, 49th minute: USA right back Matthew Olosunde was effective when he pushed up, and provided a dangerous cross in the middle of the box. Fernandez read it well and made a diving punch for the clearance with U.S. attackers lurking.

USA – Will Pulisic, 87th minute: Pulisic had yet to face a shot on goal, but he was tested twice in succession down the stretch and came up big on both occasions. Kerron Mason ripped a right-footed shot from well outside the box and Pulisic dove to his left for the save. The rebound popped out to Noah Powder from seven yards out at the near right post, and Pulisic again thwarted the Trinidad & Tobago offense with a well-positioned save.

Additional Notes:

The U-17 MNT is now 5-1-0 in international play this year. The USA moved to 5-1-3 all-time against Trinidad & Tobago in this tournament’s history.

Head coach Richie Williams’ starting lineup featured three changes from the USA’s 5-0 victory against Cuba on Friday.

Goalkeeper Will Pulisic returned in net, and three of the four defenders also started in their second straight match: left back John Nelson, right back Matthew Olosunde and center back and team captain Hugo Arellano. Tanner Dieterich earned his first start of qualifying as the other center back.

The midfield of the 4-3-3 formation included another start for Christian Pulisic in an attacking role, while Luca de la Torre and Tommy McCabe garnered their first starts in the tournament. It marked McCabe’s first appearance in the CONCACAF U-17 Championship.

The front line featured returning starters Haji Wright on the right and Joe Gallardo in the middle. Alejandro Zendejas, who started in the midfield against Cuba, was pushed up to forward on the left side.
Christian Pulisic and Wright lead the team with 31 international caps in this cycle dating back to 2013.
The USA made its first sub in the 64th minute when McKinze Gaines replaced de la Torre. Gaines leads the USA with appearances in all six international games in 2015.

Tyler Adams made his second straight appearance off the bench, replacing Christian Pulisic in the 83rd minute.

In the first minute of second-half stoppage time, Richie Williams utilized his final substitution with Brandon Vazquez entering for Gallardo. It was Vazquez’s first appearance of the tournament.

Trinidad & Tobago played without Shirwin Noel, who served a one-game suspension after receiving a red card in the 39th minute of the team’s opening 4-1 loss to Guatemala on Feb. 27. 

- U.S. U-17 Men’s National Team Match Report -

Match: U.S. U-17 Men’s National Team vs. Trinidad & Tobago U-17 Men’s National Team
Date: March 2, 2015
Competition: 2015 CONCACAF U-17 Championship
Venue: Estadio Francisco Morazán; San Pedro Sula, Honduras
Kickoff: 6 p.m. ET (5 p.m. local)
Attendance: TBA
Weather: 81 degrees; Mostly cloudy

Scoring Summary:    1 2 F
USA                              1 1 2
TRI                                0 0 0

USA – Joe Gallardo     31st minute
USA – Haji Wright (Christian Pulisic)    71st

Lineups:

USA: 1-Will Pulisic; 2-Matthew Olosunde, 14-Tanner Dieterich, 5-Hugo Arellano (capt.), 3-John Nelson; 16-Thomas McCabe, 8-Luca de la Torre (13-McKinze Gaines, 64), 10-Christian Pulisic (18-Tyler Adams, 83); 7-Haji Wright, 9-Joe Gallardo (19-Brandon Vazquez, 90+1), 20-Alejandro Zendejas

Subs Not Used: 4-Alexis Velela, 6-Eric Calvillo, 11-Josh Perez, 12-Kevin Silva, 15-Daniel Barbir, 17-Pierre da Silva

Head coach: Richie Williams

TRI: 1-Levi Fernandez; 3-Keston Julien, 4-Tekay Hoyce, 6-Kareem Riley, 7-Shakeem Patrick; 8-Joshua Burnett (17-Jeankeon Alexander, 84), 10-Morgan Bruce, 11-Jarren Nixon (9-Chaz Burnett, 60), 12-Kierron Mason; 14-Isaiah Hudson (13-Kishon Hacksaw, 82), 19-Noah Powder (capt.)

Subs Not Used: 2-Isaiah Garcia, 15-Darnell Hospedales, 16-Shobai Celestin, 18-Jean-Paul Rochford, 20-Tyrek James

Head coach: Shawn Cooper

Video: - Trinidad & Tobago vs USA Highlights (http://www.concacaf.com/video/trinidad-tobago-vs-usa-highlights-3)

Stats Summary: USA / TRI
Shots: 12 / 10
Shots on Goal: 4 / 2
Saves: 2 / 1
Corner Kicks: 8 / 2
Fouls: 14 / 11
Offside: 1 / 3

Misconduct Summary:

USA – Thomas McCabe (caution)                 74th minute
TRI – Joshua Burnett (caution)                      78
USA – Matthew Olosunde (caution)               85

Officials:

Referee: Adrian Skeete (BRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Gabriel Victoria (PAN)
Assistant Referee 2: Ricardo Ake (BLZ)
Fourth Official: Kimbell Ward (SKT)

ussoccer.com Man of the Match: Hugo Arellano

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U.S. tops Trinidad for second straight CU17 win
CONCACAF.COM


SAN PEDRO SULA, Honduras – The United States (2-0-0, 6 points) struck for a goal in each half to defeat Trinidad & Tobago (0-0-2, 0 points) 2-0 in the 2015 CONCACAF Under-17 Championship on Monday at the Estadio Francisco Morazan.

It was the Americans’ second straight shutout to open the competition, while Trinidad has yet to register a point after two games.  Honduras will square off against Cuba later in the evening to conclude the Group A tripleheader, which kicked off with Jamaica posting a 2-1 win over Guatemala.

Joe Gallardo’s dream start to the competition continued in the 32nd minute, when his free kick gave the U.S. a 1-0 lead.  The forward, who plays in the Monterrey youth system, was fouled on the edge of the box.  He stepped up to take the subsequent kick himself, shooting around the wall and beyond goalkeeper Levi Fernandez into the right side of the net.

Three minutes later, Trinidad nearly equalized.  Kareem Riley delivered a ball into the U.S. box that goalkeeper Will Pulisic tried to punch away.  The ball spun back towards the goal, where captain Hugo Arellano was present to clear from the six-yard box.

Lucas de la Torre could have given the North Americans a two-goal cushion minutes before the break, but his effort from eight-yards out flashed just wise of the left post.

That second goal, though, would come in the 71st minute through Haji Wright.

The outstanding Christian Pulisic, Will’s cousin, delivered a pass to the left side for the imposing forward, who went on an unimpeded run towards the net.  With a pair of defenders closing in, Wright pulled the trigger on a left-footed shot from eight yards that snuck inside the right post.

Will Pulisic preserved the clean sheet with two quick-fire saves near the final whistle.  First, he got down to save Kierron Mason’s right-footed attempt from distance.  Then, on the follow-up, the 16-year-old kept himself large to deny Noah Powder from seven-yards out at the right post.

The U.S. will return to action on Thursday against Guatemala, while Trinidad will face host Honduras.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 03, 2015, 05:46:11 AM
Cuba draw with Honduras leaving us at bottom of the group with no points.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on March 03, 2015, 07:25:18 AM
Cuba draw with Honduras leaving us at bottom of the group with no points.


it could be a blessing .... we just have to try and beat the host .... cuba and jamaica now ...
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Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 03, 2015, 10:43:29 AM
All I can say is wow!  In that game against Guatemala the 2nd and 4th goals are very revealing.  That Keeper not ready at all.  Is one thing to misshandle ah ball and it score, is an entirely different thing to not even touch a ball coming from that distance.  Then that dotish ass run out!  He feel he name Neuer?!  Wha de ass is this?  I only see highlights but I doh feel like that team was so strong to beat we so at all.  That red was rell rell bullshit!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 03, 2015, 11:41:46 AM
All I can say is wow!  In that game against Guatemala the 2nd and 4th goals are very revealing.  That Keeper not ready at all.  Is one thing to misshandle ah ball and it score, is an entirely different thing to not even touch a ball coming from that distance.  Then that dotish ass run out!  He feel he name Neuer?!  Wha de ass is this?  I only see highlights but I doh feel like that team was so strong to beat we so at all.  That red was rell rell bullshit!

Mad Scorpion

Is not that yuh wrong but please be gentle nah, is one of our youths. He need proper coaching and training.  Last night he was much better, though he was poorly positioned for the free kick. He stood too much behind his own wall leaving the left side of the goal open for the US player to pass the ball into the back of the net. We have given up 6 goals this tournament and 5 or them could have been avoided with stronger defensive play, specifically goal keeping. That said we have to work with the youth, to develop him.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 03, 2015, 12:28:18 PM
Some of us fail to realize that these guys are just one year from playing "A" Colts. Yes U-16. Give the yutes are break nah. I could see allyuh thumping the senior men's team. Them is "pros". Some of these yutes still in high school, and may not even think about pro ball by the time they reach 19.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 03, 2015, 02:42:23 PM
All I can say is wow!  In that game against Guatemala the 2nd and 4th goals are very revealing.  That Keeper not ready at all.  Is one thing to misshandle ah ball and it score, is an entirely different thing to not even touch a ball coming from that distance.  Then that dotish ass run out!  He feel he name Neuer?!  Wha de ass is this?  I only see highlights but I doh feel like that team was so strong to beat we so at all.  That red was rell rell bullshit!

Mad Scorpion

Is not that yuh wrong but please be gentle nah, is one of our youths. He need proper coaching and training.  Last night he was much better, though he was poorly positioned for the free kick. He stood too much behind his own wall leaving the left side of the goal open for the US player to pass the ball into the back of the net. We have given up 6 goals this tournament and 5 or them could have been avoided with stronger defensive play, specifically goal keeping. That said we have to work with the youth, to develop him.

You right, I need to remember that they can and do sometimes read these pages.  If he indeed has the potential and serviceable tools then I hope he gets the proper training to manifest it into reality.
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Post by: Tobago28 on March 03, 2015, 03:25:20 PM
Much Respect Mad Lion!

All yuh the post below is not mine, Ah copy it from wired868 because I believe is a relative of the U17 captain, Noah Powder post it. It makes sense and encouraging but falls back on us to prepare the youths better.


"We saw the potential of this team last night, the boys controlled much of the match having early chances to take the lead. What is MOST evident after last night is that TTFA, Ministry of Sport, parents and players have to develop a system, process and plan to achieve our goals because we are failing our youth. Last night I watched a group of our young Warriors compete strongly with the USA, our Warriors had 2 International Friendlies with Panama and 1 against a Panamanian U20 Club . Of the USA players 16 have lived in residency at Bradenton, FL training twice per day for over a year and a half, they played the following international matches:

January 20 2014 vs. France                         January 21 2014 vs. Norway
January 23 2014 vs. Scotland                      January 25 2014 vs. Turkey
August 2 2014 vs. China                             August 3 2014 vs. Mexico
August 4 2014 vs. Paraguay                        August 6 2014 vs. Turkey
August 8 2014 vs. Ecuador                          August 10 2014 vs. Brazil
November 28 2014 vs. England                    November 30 2014 vs. Australia
December 2 2014 vs. Brazil                         February 2 2015 vs. Panama
February 4 2015 vs. Panama                        February 20 2015 vs Bermuda
February 22 2015 vs. Bermuda

Imagine what is possible if we get our act together, we have the talent, we have the intellect we need the resources, believe and commitment. The USA live and play together for 18 months, they play 17 international matches but we fight them to the end. We can’t afford to waste this generation of boys nor the next. No more excuses, lets find the path to solutions."
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 03, 2015, 03:26:42 PM
Sorry! Much Respect!Mad Scorpion for accepting the change in tone. So much warrior and lion talk ah get confuse.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 03, 2015, 03:49:41 PM
Much Respect Mad Lion!

All yuh the post below is not mine, Ah copy it from wired868 because I believe is a relative of the U17 captain, Noah Powder post it. It makes sense and encouraging but falls back on us to prepare the youths better.


"We saw the potential of this team last night, the boys controlled much of the match having early chances to take the lead. What is MOST evident after last night is that TTFA, Ministry of Sport, parents and players have to develop a system, process and plan to achieve our goals because we are failing our youth. Last night I watched a group of our young Warriors compete strongly with the USA, our Warriors had 2 International Friendlies with Panama and 1 against a Panamanian U20 Club . Of the USA players 16 have lived in residency at Bradenton, FL training twice per day for over a year and a half, they played the following international matches:

January 20 2014 vs. France                         January 21 2014 vs. Norway
January 23 2014 vs. Scotland                      January 25 2014 vs. Turkey
August 2 2014 vs. China                             August 3 2014 vs. Mexico
August 4 2014 vs. Paraguay                        August 6 2014 vs. Turkey
August 8 2014 vs. Ecuador                          August 10 2014 vs. Brazil
November 28 2014 vs. England                    November 30 2014 vs. Australia
December 2 2014 vs. Brazil                         February 2 2015 vs. Panama
February 4 2015 vs. Panama                        February 20 2015 vs Bermuda
February 22 2015 vs. Bermuda

Imagine what is possible if we get our act together, we have the talent, we have the intellect we need the resources, believe and commitment. The USA live and play together for 18 months, they play 17 international matches but we fight them to the end. We can’t afford to waste this generation of boys nor the next. No more excuses, lets find the path to solutions."

Remind Cooper of this, so he should learn how to manage the players off the field. Build, don't break.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on March 03, 2015, 04:06:52 PM
Small scenes Tobago28.  I of all people doh really like to engage in them kind of criticism.  I just see it and react but I eh too big to see ah point and adjust.  Clearly our youth have the talent and overall ability to play with and beat these teams.  We as pointed out in that posting don't ever seem to be really prepared for these competitions.  Is really sad that TTFA in this state because given all the financial resources that past through it's predecessor we should not at all be in this mess.  We come like ah mechanic diving ah car dat steady shuttin dong!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sam on March 04, 2015, 04:52:37 AM
I eh mind as de players really underprepared, so they did the best they could.

However, de coaching aspect is piss poor.

All Caribbean teams play the same, kick to de forward even if no striker there, chase the game, hestitate to shoot, escort players in goal, eliminate de midfield and follow the ball.

They beat themselves.

Silly mistakes are made constantly.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on March 05, 2015, 02:51:59 AM
U-17 Soca Warriors in must-win match.
T&T Guardian Reports.


T&T’s Under-17 footballers go into their third Pool A match of the 2015 Concacaf Under-17 Championship, against host Honduras tonight needing to avoid defeat to stay in with a chance of qualification to the World Cup.

The match between the Shawn Cooper-coached young Soca Warriors and Honduras, the third of today’s schedule kicks off from 9.30 pm (11.30 pm TT time) at the Estadio Francisco Morazan, San Pedro Sula, Honduras.

T&T is currently bottom of its six-team pool without a point after losing its opening matches against Guatemala (1-4) and USA (0-2) while Honduras is second on the table after blanking Jamaica 2-0 and drawing 1-1 with Cuba.

At the top of the standings is USA which drubbed Cuba 5-0 in its opener while Guatemala and Jamaica, both have three points and the Cubans, one.

Expected to return to the line-up for T&T is defender Sherwin Noel, who missed the encounter with the Americans after being red carded against Guatemala.

Having qualified as the best third placed team from the Caribbean Football Union, T&T is currently on a three-match losing streak, dating back to its 3-0 loss to Haiti in qualification and will need to pick up at least a point against a team it last faces at this level in 1988, which ended in a 1-1 draw.

In today’s early kick-offs, Cuba plays Jamaica from 4.30 pm (6.30 pm TT time) and Guatemala meets USA from 7 pm (9 pm TT time).

Tomorrow at the Olympic Stadium, Costa Rica faces Haiti, Panama comes up against St Lucia and Canada battles defending champions Mexico in Pool B.

The top team from each group after round-robin play advances directly to the World Cup and the other two places will be determined by the results of the final day elimination matches.

T&T Team

1-Levi Fernandez (GK); 3-Keston Julien, 4-Tekay Hoyce, 6-Kareem Riley, 7-Shakeem Patrick; 8-Joshua Burnett, 17-Jeankeon Alexander, 10-Morgan Bruce, 11-Jerren Nixon, 9-Chaz Burnett, 12-Kierron Mason; 14-Isaiah Hudson, 13-Kishon Hacksaw, 19-Noah Powder (captain), 2-Isaiah Garcia, 15-Darnell Hospedales, 16-Shobai Celestin, 18-Jean-Paul Rochford, 20-Tyrek James, 5-Shirwin Noel.

Coach: Shawn Cooper

Remaining Concacaf U-17 Championship Pool A matches

Today

Cuba vs Jamaica, 4.30 pm

Guatemala vs USA, 7pm

Honduras vs T&T, 9.30 pm

Sunday

T&T vs Jamaica, 5 pm

Cuba vs Guatemala, 7.30 pm

USA vs Honduras, 10 pm

March 10

T&T vs Cuba, 4.30 pm

USA vs Jamaica, 7 pm

Honduras vs Guatemala, 9.30 pm

Standings

Group A

Teams P W D L F A Pts
USA 2 2 0 0 7 0 6
Honduras 2 1 1 0 3 1 4
Guatemala 2 1 0 1 5 3 3
Jamaica 2 1 0 1 2 3 3
Cuba 2 0 1 1 1 6 1
T&T 2 0 0 2 1 6 0

Group B

Teams P W D L F A Pts
Mexico 2 2 0 0 9 1 6
Canada 2 2 0 0 6 3 6
Panama 2 1 0 1 8 3 3
Costa Rica 2 1 0 1 6 3 3
Haiti 2 0 0 2 1 10 0
St Lucia 2 0 0 2 0 10 0

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on March 05, 2015, 07:29:32 AM
Good luck to the Young Warriors this evening!
If they can draw or win this game against Honduras at home in their yard then they can turn things around and still qualify for the World Cup. Its do or die this evening!!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 05, 2015, 09:34:05 AM
Tonight is a defining moment for the Warriors, they will make us proud tonight with a victory. Only positivity. I believe we WILL WIN!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 05, 2015, 10:03:39 AM
Good luck, Yutes!!!!!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 05, 2015, 07:38:28 PM
Ok guys, just don't support the TTFA support the youth men too. Link here (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/teamoguatelindatve2)

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on March 05, 2015, 07:48:52 PM
what a stupid yellow patrick got
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Bianconeri on March 05, 2015, 07:50:18 PM
how about a score update?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on March 05, 2015, 08:03:42 PM
Still 0-0 in the 1st half after 28 minutes! http://www.ustream.tv/channel/teamoguatelindatve2
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on March 05, 2015, 08:03:42 PM
Score is 0-0. They are holding their own...so far

Elan posted a link
Ok guys, just don't support the TTFA support the youth men too. Link here (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/teamoguatelindatve2)


Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Flex on March 05, 2015, 08:07:15 PM
Honduras tops T&T, stays on track in CU17.
CONCACAF.COM.


SAN PEDRO SULA, Honduras – Host Honduras (2-1-0, 7 points) remained unbeaten after three games in the 2015 CONCACAF Under-17 Championship, scoring twice in the second half to defeat Trinidad & Tobago (0-0-3, 0 points) on Thursday.

The match completed a Group A tripleheader at the Estadio Francisco Morazan, where Cuba (0-2-1, 2 points) and Jamaica (1-1-1, 4 points) played to a 1-1 draw in the opener, followed by first-place United States (3-0-0, 9 points) triumphing 4-1 over Guatemala (1-0-2, 3 points).

Dylan Andrade produced the game’s first goal in the 53rd minute.  After Trinidad had difficulty clearing the ball from its own box, the 16-year-old team captain – without a hint of hesitation -- hammered a right-foot effort from near the upper-right corner of penalty area off the left hand of goalkeeper Levi Fernandez and into the back of the net.

Three minutes later, the Catrachos almost doubled their advantage, when – from the same spot Andrade netted his goal – Darixon Vuelto tried to curl a left-footer inside the far post, only to see it sail just wide.

Chaz Burnett’s bid to equalize for Trinidad in the 64th minute came up short as his header from nine yards glided barely over the crossbar.

The Soca Warriors, however, would not give up the fight.  In the 87th minute, Noah Powder deposited a 40-yard free kick deep into the Honduran box.  Goalkeeper Michael Perello punched the ball away, but it fell to Jeankeon Alexander.  The San Juan Jabloteh forward controlled with his chest, before firing over the frame from 12-yards out.

With the Caribbean side continuing to push forward, Honduras secured an insurance goal.  A swift counterattack ended with Wisdom Quaye firing home from 20-yards out off Fernandez’s right hand.

Honduras returns to action on Sunday, facing the United States in a top-of-the-table clash.  The Americans can secure the Group A title, a place in the final and a spot in the 2015 FIFA U-17 World Cup with a victory. Trinidad will meet Caribbean rival Jamaica that same day.

Results

Honduras  2  v  T&T  0
Andrade 53
Quaye 90

Teams

Honduras: - 12.Michael Parello; 2.Victor Matamoros, 4.Allan Rivera (Yellow 50), 5.Dylan Andrade, 19.Gabriel Ortiz; 6.Jorge Alvarez (11.Oslin Sevilla 92nd), 8.Erick Arias, 15.Jose Galeano, 16.Jeancarlo Vargas (18.Kevin Castro 85th); 9.Darixon Vuelto (13.Wisdom Quaye 78th), 7.Foslyn Grant.

Coach: - Jose Valladares.

Trinidad & Tobago: - 1.Levi Fernandez; 3.Keston Julien, 4.Tekay Hoyce, 6.Kareem Riley (capt), 7.Shakeem Patrick (Yellow 13); 8.Joshua Burnett (17.Jeankeon Alexander 75th - Yellow 94), 10.Morgan Bruce, 12.Kierron Mason, 14.Isaiah Hudson (16.Shobal Celestin 78th), 19.Noah Powder; 9.Chaz Burnett (13.Kishon Hackshaw 65th).

Coach: - Shawn Cooper.

Video: - Honduras vs Trinidad & Tobago Highlights (http://www.concacaf.com/video/honduras-vs-trinidad-tobago-highlights-4)

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on March 05, 2015, 08:08:38 PM
We need to keep better possession of the ball. If we can't do that then we will give Honduras too many chances to score and will eventually concede a goal.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 05, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
Anybody have a link for this match?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on March 05, 2015, 08:23:35 PM
Half-time 0-0
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on March 05, 2015, 08:23:55 PM
Anybody have a link for this match?

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/teamoguatelindatve2

Its current 0-0 and they have stopped for the half-time interval.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: madness on March 05, 2015, 08:24:42 PM
check this link nah http://www.ustream.tv/channel/teamoguatelindatve2
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on March 05, 2015, 08:26:58 PM
I hope our Young Soca Warriors can keep better possession of the ball in the 2nd half.

If they can remedy that and be patient then more chances will come and they can evetually score on Honduras.

Honduras had more possession and definitely had more shots on our goal in the 1st half.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on March 05, 2015, 08:38:48 PM
2nd half has started: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/teamoguatelindatve2
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on March 05, 2015, 08:47:05 PM
honduras scores
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: soccerman on March 05, 2015, 09:27:18 PM
2-0 Honduras
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Socapro on March 05, 2015, 09:27:51 PM
We lose 2 - 0 to Honduras with goals scored against us in the 53rd and 90th minutes.

Hard luck Young Warriors.  :(
Title: Rep : 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: ZANDOLIE on March 05, 2015, 09:32:48 PM
2-0 honduras in the 89th minute. hard luck young warriors.

this group fought hard. they are a lot better than given credit for.

yet another tragic failure, with no relief in sight.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 05, 2015, 09:36:14 PM
They fought hard creating some good chances.  With better preparation these boys have something to offer, it looks like the tournament is over for them but we need to salvage some points against Jamaica and Cuba. The boys deserve that for the way they have fought.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sando prince on March 05, 2015, 10:44:53 PM

Just another day in TnT football against better teams in CONCACAF. From the youth level to the senior level we continue to see bad results. Beating Caribbean opposition is NOT progress simply because the Caribbean region is behind Central America
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 06, 2015, 07:05:32 AM

Just another day in TnT football against better teams in CONCACAF. From the youth level to the senior level we continue to see bad results. Beating Caribbean opposition is NOT progress simply because the Caribbean region is behind Central America

You are correct the Caribbean region is behind Latin and Central America, however is the path to progress being unsuccessful against other Caribbean teams?

Capturing maximum points(very ambitious maybe fantasy) over the next two games would show some progress for a us as we qualified last for this tournament based on goal difference.

We can only go up from here
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Sam on March 06, 2015, 07:39:41 AM
We can only go up from here

De only going up we going up is in age.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Trini _2026 on March 06, 2015, 07:42:33 AM

Just another day in TnT football against better teams in CONCACAF. From the youth level to the senior level we continue to see bad results. Beating Caribbean opposition is NOT progress simply because the Caribbean region is behind Central America

You are correct the Caribbean region is behind Latin and Central America, however is the path to progress being unsuccessful against other Caribbean teams?

Capturing maximum points(very ambitious maybe fantasy) over the next two games would show some progress for a us as we qualified last for this tournament based on goal difference.

We can only go up from here

we were not prepared simple as that
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on March 06, 2015, 09:17:38 AM
Yet, people were expecting them to win. Foolish.
The Minister said the Coach and the ttfa did an excellent job in preparing this team. Foolish.
From the grassroots to the SSFL to the Super League to the Pro League to all the national teams, there are common factors that tie everything together. I am talking about poor coaching, poor preparation, non-existence of a development program, no accountability, no one accepting responsibility for the continuous saga in football, the fiasco perpertrated upon these kids time and time again, not to mention the old men and dinosaur thinking that's ruling football in the country. All of those elements that sew a wicked web of poor quality football are etched into the fabric of every level of football in the country so much so that it is manifesting itself in the poor results you are witnessing on the international stage. Yes, I am oversimplyfying things because to elaborate in details the underlying elements at work preventing any real development of the sport in Trinidad and Tobago would take up too much space.
How Cornmeal and Vranes were able to coach those teams to the Youth World Cups can be attributed to one man and not because of their remarkable coaching skills. Yeah, I am being sarcastic about it so you don't have to wonder.
While Cornmeal was unimpressive, ineffective and insignificant as the federation's technical director, Vranes will get his chance to prove me wrong when his version of the Sharks come up against teams, not from the deadbeat pro league, in the CCL Championship.
I woke up this morning and the truth was still apparent, the team was still winless. I started to wonder, where and how did Cooper and King and all the other youth national team coaches get their licenses? Something got lost in the translation between the coaching course and these coaches abilities to translate what they learned into positive results on the field. Someone has to accept blame and responsibility for this fiasco because when the team wins everyone wants to take credit for the success of the team. Instead of teaching kids how not to lose, it is high time that someone start teaching them how to win.
Victory loves preparation.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 06, 2015, 10:18:04 AM
Yet, people were expecting them to win. Foolish.
The Minister said the Coach and the ttfa did an excellent job in preparing this team. Foolish.
From the grassroots to the SSFL to the Super League to the Pro League to all the national teams, there are common factors that tie everything together. I am talking about poor coaching, poor preparation, non-existence of a development program, no accountability, no one accepting responsibility for the continuous saga in football, the fiasco perpertrated upon these kids time and time again, not to mention the old men and dinosaur thinking that's ruling football in the country. All of those elements that sew a wicked web of poor quality football are etched into the fabric of every level of football in the country so much so that it is manifesting itself in the poor results you are witnessing on the international stage. Yes, I am oversimplyfying things because to elaborate in details the underlying elements at work preventing any real development of the sport in Trinidad and Tobago would take up too much space.
How Cornmeal and Vranes were able to coach those teams to the Youth World Cups can be attributed to one man and not because of their remarkable coaching skills. Yeah, I am being sarcastic about it so you don't have to wonder.
While Cornmeal was unimpressive, ineffective and insignificant as the federation's technical director, Vranes will get his chance to prove me wrong when his version of the Sharks come up against teams, not from the deadbeat pro league, in the CCL Championship.
I woke up this morning and the truth was still apparent, the team was still winless. I started to wonder, where and how did Cooper and King and all the other youth national team coaches get their licenses? Something got lost in the translation between the coaching course and these coaches abilities to translate what they learned into positive results on the field. Someone has to accept blame and responsibility for this fiasco because when the team wins everyone wants to take credit for the success of the team. Instead of teaching kids how not to lose, it is high time that someone start teaching them how to win.
Victory loves preparation.

We can only go up from here.

This will give us good experience.

The players are still young support them.

The coach didn't have enough time with the players.

The TTFA did what it could.

Be positive the players read the forum.

T&T don't have talent like long time anymore.

The coach-man trying he best.

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 06, 2015, 03:03:50 PM
Jamaica Under-17 players injured after freak hotel lift accident in Honduras (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/04/jamaica-under-17-players-injured-freak-hotel-accident)



Nine Jamaica Under-17 players were involved in a freak lift accident at the team’s hotel in San Pedro Sula, Honduras, which left several needing treatment.

The players, in Honduras for the Concacaf Under-17 Championship, reportedly entered the lift on the third floor of the Hilton Princess hotel. The lift then plummeted down to the car park on the ground floor, with players having to crawl out of the wreckage.

The head of Jamaica’s delegation, Garfield Fuller, told the Jamaica Observer that two of the players, Demar James and Deshane Beckford, were taken to hospital for x-rays, but that the injuries sustained appeared to be minor.

“The players are pretty scared and frightened and one player mentioned it was like a heart attack because of the pace at which the elevator crashed to the ground,” said Fuller. “We just give God thanks that we didn’t experience the worst.”

Jamaica’s FA president, Captain Horace Burrell, said he had sought legal advice. “I am leaving nothing to chance and will be contacting our legal team because it’s not the fault of the players and we want to be responsible.

“We want to ensure that the players’ welfare is looked after down the road if an injury is experienced and can be substantiated because of this … I don’t want to leave them out on a limb, so I am taking legal steps to ensure that the players’ interests are being protected in a comprehensive way.”

The hotel’s general manager, Anthony Corbin, told the paper: “We were taken aback with what happened and have expressed our concern and also are not shying away from our responsibility in respect to the incident … We are not taking the position to cover up any of this because it’s a reality. We have taken the corrective measure because we are concerned about our guests’ safety. That comes first, so we will be taking the necessary action.

“I hope [we] will be given the opportunity to continue to take care of the team. We have been doing well up to that point, so we will continue to do so or even do better. I can only say that again, we are very sorry that occurred.”
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 06, 2015, 05:21:50 PM
Wow, praise nothing serious eh happen to this kids. Jah Bless!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: AB.Trini on March 06, 2015, 07:18:33 PM
Wow!!! Thank God that this incident with the youths from Jamaica did not have a tragic ending!

On another note we cyar talk small talk like the youths and them is still babies- darn at that age I was playing second division among men with GreyHound Dovers in Sando!!

And secondly if the youths from the Latin countries could play to a level beyond ours then age is. Not a factor for ability- yes we have to look at : coaching preparation and some onus also has to be placed on the mental and physical readiness  of the players.  Yuh cyar teach determination, attitude, will and  a desire  to succeed- a work ethic  in conjunction with all those things come with a player
'S discipline to diet training and willingness to improve beyond practicing with the coach.  Accountability beings with the individual. Coaches and technical directors doh play the game but they do have. Or should have the capacity to motivate and to influence players in a way that the players' talents  could exceed his grasp.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on March 06, 2015, 09:25:29 PM
Now we should have no problem beatin dem....nine yutes damage..should be a easy tree points..
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 06, 2015, 11:12:48 PM
Now we should have no problem beatin dem....nine yutes damage..should be a easy tree points..

Breds, that is real condescending.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 06, 2015, 11:17:12 PM
Wow!!! Thank God that this incident with the youths from Jamaica did not have a tragic ending!

On another note we cyar talk small talk like the youths and them is still babies- darn at that age I was playing second division among men with GreyHound Dovers in Sando!!

And secondly if the youths from the Latin countries could play to a level beyond ours then age is. Not a factor for ability- yes we have to look at : coaching preparation and some onus also has to be placed on the mental and physical readiness  of the players.  Yuh cyar teach determination, attitude, will and  a desire  to succeed- a work ethic  in conjunction with all those things come with a player
'S discipline to diet training and willingness to improve beyond practicing with the coach.  Accountability beings with the individual. Coaches and technical directors doh play the game but they do have. Or should have the capacity to motivate and to influence players in a way that the players' talents  could exceed his grasp.
Greyhound Dovers! Man that was a great lil sports club from Sando. Great basketball and Track and field also.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: TdotTrini on March 07, 2015, 06:30:26 AM
Now we should have no problem beatin dem....nine yutes damage..should be a easy tree points..

Breds, that is real condescending.

This asshole call himself a coach?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on March 07, 2015, 07:37:52 PM
How else allyuh expect us to get points..ent allyuh done show sympathy ..allyuh want me to do de same ..it is what it is... now fuh de tree pts.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on March 08, 2015, 08:01:21 AM
U-17 Reggae Boyz wager all today...Tackle rivals T&T for play-off spot in CONCACAF tourney
By Howard Walker (Jamaica Observer)


amaica Under-17s will go into battle against their fierce Caribbean rivals Trinidad and Tobago (T&T) today at the Estadio Francisco Morazan at 4:00 pm Jamaican time, knowing a win will put them on the cusp of a CONCACAF Championship play-off spot.

A victory for Jamaica and a drawn result between Guatemala and Cuba will send Jamaica into the play-off round regardless of the outcome between the United States of America (USA) and Honduras today.

The Americans lead the group with nine points ahead of Honduras on seven points, while Jamaica are on four. Guatemala are fourth on three points, just ahead of Cuba on two, with T&T pointless at the bottom.

Anything but a win for Jamaica could be disastrous, and head coach Andrew Edwards is cognisant of the fact.

Despite Trinidad and Tobago's poor run in which they lost all three games - 1-4 to Guatemala and 0-2 to both USA and Honduras, Edwards expects a real fight on his hand.

"A victory with favourable results could actually qualify us for the play-offs, so we want to do that. But we know it will be difficult because the Jamaica/Trinidad rivalry is the biggest in Caribbean football," Edwards noted.

He continued: "Before the tournament started, the Trinidad coach, a friend of mine, pointed out to me that Jamaica has never beaten Trinidad at this level. After losing to Honduras, he said he has played his three toughest matches to date and he is certain that he will be going home with six points."

"I am pretty certain that they are coming all guns blazing to get some points on the board and Jamaica is the team they want it from. So we have to stand up strongly and prevent that from happening," said Edwards.

The young Reggae Boyz had a training session yesterday morning at the Rancho Tara facility and once again defender Ajeanie Talbott had to sit out the greater part of the session after picking up a knock during one of the drills. Whether he will start the game or not is left to be seen.

Creative midfielder Alex Marshall had a stiff neck, but that was taken care of by physiotherapist Garone Brown during training.

Edwards was largely happy with yesterday's training session.

"The training session went really good for us. We did some work on the attacking options because we really need to score some goals. So we worked from midfield build up through to finishing.

"(We also did some) dead ball situations, corners and penalties. But all in all, I think it went well, so we are very happy with that," Edwards pointed out.

"The energy from the boys and the enthusiasm and excitement seen from them look really good and promising. So we are buoyed by that and we are looking forward to tomorrow's (today's) game where we are expecting a very favourable result," he added.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 08, 2015, 02:40:22 PM
Cooper  SMFH    :banginghead:  :frustrated:

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 08, 2015, 03:11:16 PM
Anybody have a link?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 08, 2015, 03:36:21 PM
Anybody have a link?

http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/azulyblanco.co/stream3.php (http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/azulyblanco.co/stream3.php)
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 08, 2015, 03:47:33 PM
T&T 0 vs JA 1 39'  Vassell
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 08, 2015, 03:49:44 PM
T&T 1 vs JA 1 43' Powder
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 08, 2015, 03:54:17 PM
T&T 1 vs JA 2 Adamolekun 48'
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on March 08, 2015, 04:47:44 PM
I was watching the game but lost the feed...anyway all I saw was a tactical error made by the coach in that he had his team playing high but not really mounting any purposeful attack...I don't see why ..especially since it's during  time added on.

The Jamaicans were much better at linking midfield with forwards especially on the counter...which resulted in a goal.

I have not been able to recover the feed but it looks as though Cooper will lose this one too.

The biggest problem going forward is lack of deep, effective penetration.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 08, 2015, 05:05:10 PM
Two goals in 4 matches; (1) from left wing back and (1) from right wing back.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: soccerrama on March 08, 2015, 05:37:40 PM
FT   T&T 1   Jamaica 5
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 08, 2015, 05:37:59 PM
I was watching the game but lost the feed...anyway all I saw was a tactical error made by the coach in that he had his team playing high but not really mounting any purposeful attack...I don't see why ..especially since it's during  time added on.

The Jamaicans were much better at linking midfield with forwards especially on the counter...which resulted in a goal.

I have not been able to recover the feed but it looks as though Cooper will lose this one too.

The biggest problem going forward is lack of deep, effective penetration.

We have shown that it does not matter who we play against we approach the game the same way. You can see that JA was very prepared for us, be weren't prepared for them.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 08, 2015, 05:53:51 PM
FT   T&T 1   Jamaica 5

Sorry to hear this. I was hoping we salvaged points in this game and the one to come. At the very minimum, these players have received exposure on a higher stage. Let's harness that.

Also, I imagine some of them are suffering through the learning curve. We have to protect them in this as well. The work is not done when the final whistle blows in San Pedro Sula.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on March 08, 2015, 08:10:56 PM
Youth football is a bit different from the seniors...is all about instilling confidence and helping them do what they can do best.

From the little I saw which was only time added on at end of the first 45mins I didn't see a Jamaica team that was five goals better than us..what I saw were tactical errors..I saw forwards making runs but not getting the pass..and a midfield that was having difficulty on both sides of the ball.

The tactical decision to try to squeeze the Jamaicans to the midfield at that stage in the game was ill advised...I feel the result would have been different if the halftime score was 1-1.

A team that lost all their games and going in to the dressing room losing at half-time could wreak havoc on the mental of some players.

The Coach is always in panic mode on the sidelines ...that also doesn't sit well with the players on the field and on the bench...so I say it is time to get a new coach for these young players...they are too important.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: AB.Trini on March 08, 2015, 08:11:00 PM
FT   T&T 1   Jamaica 5

Sorry to hear this. I was hoping we salvaged points in this game and the one to come. At the very minimum, these players have received exposure on a higher stage. Let's harness that.

Also, I imagine some of them are suffering through the learning curve. We have to protect them in this as well. The work is not done when the final whistle blows in San Pedro Sula.


So wait nah - we youths are the only one who have ah learning curve? Steups  all the youth men and dem from the other countries on a. Straight pathway and we still lagging at the curves- why?


On another note we cyar talk small talk like the youths and them is still babies-

And secondly if the youths from the Latin countries could play to a level beyond ours then age is. Not a factor for ability- yes we have to look at : coaching preparation and some onus also has to be placed on the mental and physical readiness  of the players.  Yuh cyar teach determination, attitude, will and  a desire  to succeed- a work ethic  in conjunction with all those things come with a player
'S discipline to diet training and willingness to improve beyond practicing with the coach.  Accountability beings with the individual. Coaches and technical directors doh play the game but they do have. Or should have the capacity to motivate and to influence players in a way that the players' talents  could exceed his grasp.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: madness on March 08, 2015, 08:45:40 PM
this is for the coaches of trinidad and tobago http://soccerhelp.com/Soccer_Positions.shtml
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 08, 2015, 08:48:15 PM
Our coaches idea of motivation is taking away cell phones and lap tops from players & belittling players in front the team. Cooper eh have ah F@#king clue. Let's see who he blames when they get back. That's if the Press Officer still working.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on March 08, 2015, 09:41:02 PM
5 - 1 eh!!! Nice one Cooper. Way to motivate your players.
Just a couple days ago, nine Jamaican players were involved in a freak accident that could have cause them their lives and limbs, yet they were able to shake that off, put it behind them and focus on the task ahead. They just layeth the smacketh down on your candy ass.
That, Mr. Cooper, is what I call motivating your players. Pay Coach Edwards what you owe him.

President Tiny Toons, I finally understand the strategy behind the development program. Send a bunch of poorly trained, underprepared kids into a tournament to impale themselves on their own sword after they humiliate themselves on the battle field while suffering the indecency of being looked at as the girls of the tournament and then call it "a useful exercise" in preparation for the next u20 tournament. All of you associated with this current ttfa administration's reign should be shot with shit.

Mr. Cooper, if you and the idiots running the ttfa have any class and intelligence at all, you will apologize to these kids, to the parents of these kids and to the fans of the beautiful game for putting us through this absolutely humiliating experience. Where in the f#%king world did you get your coaching license? And why oh why, would you accept a job to lead a bunch of poorly trained and underprepared young men into battle? If the ttfa never pays you, don't complain.



Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 08, 2015, 10:27:54 PM
5 - 1 eh!!! Nice one Cooper. Way to motivate your players.
Just a couple days ago, nine Jamaican players were involved in a freak accident that could have cause them their lives and limbs, yet they were able to shake that off, put it behind them and focus on the task ahead. They just layeth the smacketh down on your candy ass.
That, Mr. Cooper, is what I call motivating your players. Pay Coach Edwards what you owe him.

President Tiny Toons, I finally understand the strategy behind the development program. Send a bunch of poorly trained, underprepared kids into a tournament to impale themselves on their own sword after they humiliate themselves on the battle field while suffering the indecency of being looked at as the girls of the tournament and then call it "a useful exercise" in preparation for the next u20 tournament. All of you associated with this current ttfa administration's reign should be shot with shit.

Mr. Cooper, if you and the idiots running the ttfa have any class and intelligence at all, you will apologize to these kids, to the parents of these kids and to the fans of the beautiful game for putting us through this absolutely humiliating experience. Where in the f#%king world did you get your coaching license? And why oh why, would you accept a job to lead a bunch of poorly trained and underprepared young men into battle? If the ttfa never pays you, don't complain.






You eh read, that Bakes say the TTFA successful in putting all we teams back on the field and have them not just competing but being competitive.

Read Nah man,

So according to alyuh just hand out money? Wasn't alyuh self calling for JW head? Get real fellas. This TFFA bunch is yet to show any kind of accountability or transparency. Go ahead and get caught up in ah next JW situation, then cry foul. Good luck with alyuh yes.

Doh worry Private investors lining up to assist this new group because they have plans, transparency and accountability all laid out. They receiving sponsorship hand over fist. Is Sancho who trying to stop all the money they bringing in.

So ow is Sancho to blame for The Women's National Team being sent to the US with $500? Is not the TTFA who make ah last minute request for support from the MoS? Yuh know why people does make last minute request to the government? Try find out.

Alyuh play politics and pick side while the chirren and them suffering.

You either playing de ass... or genuinely deluded.

1. Nobody saying there shouldn't be "transparency and accountability".  Just because we doh like the way Sancho going about doing things doesn't mean we don't want what's best for TnT football. That is the problem with too many ah allyuh, setting up this "either you are with us or against us" false dilemma.  The TTFA has a duty to present periodic accounts to its Executive Committee... which they have done.  They have no standing obligation to present accounts to any outside body, that includes the MoS and the public.  As a condition of receiving funds the MoS is entirely within its rights to request an accounting of funds given, and the TTFA can comply if they want the funding.  But it's not accurate to keep trotting out the same old lie that the TTFA isn't being transparent.

2. Sancho isn't to blame for the Women going to Houston without funding, and nobody said as much.  What Deeks said, and he's correct, is that the MoS continued to play politics with the funding.  Go back and read the discussion leading up to the Women's World Cup... again, yuh conveniently forgetting that it was the Ministry that was late coming thru with the money after the request was made well in advance, it wasn't no last-minute thing.  That is what they kept making it out to be... "the TTFA inept, they only coming with hat in hand last minute".

Meanwhile, inspite of the financial duress, internal moles and government intransigence, somehow the TTFA got every national team back to not only competing again, but actually being competitive on the field. Tell we again that they ent do nothing for local football... while yuh pardna Sancho counting he millions in tax payer money and singing like ah f**king canary for his supper on the PP campaign trail.  After all, he "believes" the vision of this thieving band of corrupt crooks.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 09, 2015, 06:09:01 AM
FT   T&T 1   Jamaica 5

Sorry to hear this. I was hoping we salvaged points in this game and the one to come. At the very minimum, these players have received exposure on a higher stage. Let's harness that.

Also, I imagine some of them are suffering through the learning curve. We have to protect them in this as well. The work is not done when the final whistle blows in San Pedro Sula.


So wait nah - we youths are the only one who have ah learning curve? Steups  all the youth men and dem from the other countries on a. Straight pathway and we still lagging at the curves- why?

...


All teams, particularly youth teams, have a learning curve. Thing is ... each team is unique and not necessarily on the same "pathway" as others (opponents).

At the moment we are optimistically throwing good money (albeit very little of it) at ill-fated projects. None of this is structured development.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 09, 2015, 07:32:32 AM
I as do most want to see our teams at all levels compete and be successful. However, we ALL know the dysfunctional conditions at the TTFA and Ministry of Sports; the TTFA will not disclose its financials while the Ministry spent 200 million on LifeSPort. Sadly, in the backdrop of the poorest country in the Caribbean(Haiti) players having to provide support to the wealthiest country in the Caribbean(TnT) womens' football team we must send young Warriors to play U20 and U17 World Cup Qualifiers. The results speak not to just to TTFA, Ministry of Sports, the coaches but also to ALL of us. Whether we live in Trinidad and Tobago, Canada, USA, England, Germany or Mars we ALL have failed the 20 young men in Honduras. Part of our failure began when we became tribal, saying no foreign based players, only wanting players from Naps or Pres or W Connection. I give credit to the coaching staff for selecting foreign based players; I think we can all agree they brought quality and leadership to the squad.

The RESULTS in HONDURAS of our youth is our FAILURE to prepare them. We accept Jack Warner, we accept Tim Kee, we accept the coaching(good or bad), we accept that just a month ago 400,000 was passed in a car park, we accept TTFA not releasing financials, we accepted Minister two pull. Then we with no standards at all, expect our YOUTH to play at a high standard and bring national glory.

Our youth in HONDURAS were the WARRIORS, they were PATRIOTIC. They know better than most that they were not well prepared, they know better than us about the coaching BUT they agreed to go fight, train and do their best. When will the adults be PATRIOTIC, when will the adults be WARRIORS and show some standards of behavior and stop blaming everybody.

If we want change, we have to be the change.

I said it before, the boys of TnT  born in 1998 and 1999 have the potential to qualify for World Cups, the question is will the adults create an environment for them to succeed. Time will soon tell whether we waste another generation.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Banter Banton on March 09, 2015, 08:43:43 AM
Who select the keeper? Who select the squad?

Don't forget this team scrape through preliminary qualifiers as a best 3rd to reach this Concacaf level.

I know he did not get the best preparation etc but this man out of depth at this level and it will be a CRIME If he gets another crack at it in the future.... poor squad selection, zero balance, favouritism, outdated methods, another loud mouth bawling coach soldier fitness type run run run over modern technical football.

Enough is Enough.....Cooper HAS to go
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: diamondtrim on March 09, 2015, 09:10:26 AM
I've said it countless times...our players are simply not good...period. Jose Mourinho could coach any of our teams from u12 to senior and the results wouldn't vary much. We do not have the talent.

Specifically referencing this u17 team, this team was selected from the SSFL and the TTProleague u16 competition of last season. This in itself is a huge problem.

One would imagine that if any player is considered to be the amongst the 20/25 best u17 players in the country, that player would at least be good enough to play for his club's u18/reserve team (as the TTProleague had it last season). This was not the case....if indeed there were a few players who were eligible for the u17 team and were playing in a higher and more competitive age group, then they were missed by whatever passes for scouting.

Imagine that a national football team that was preparing for an international competition is scooped from a sub par u16 local tournament....smh.

Toward the end of last year I saw with my very own eyes, 3 of the starting XI in the world cup qualifiers, play a SSFL U16 national semifinal. There may be nothing wrong with that in general, but for 3 youths who are preparing for international competition, of what benefit was that game? And I do not know if they played any school u16 games prior or after. Mind you the 3 players looked nothing like what I'd like to say national players should look like when playing against their peers.

Then we have about 75%(could be corrected) of the team from south...maybe south trinidad indeed has the better players, but it just seemed a bit odd to me.

Then during the qualifiers, the coach picks the same starting XI more or less....1st game licks, 2nd game licks, 3rd game licks....well oh gorm....change yuh team nah....smh



Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 09, 2015, 10:06:47 AM
Part of our failure began when we became tribal, saying no foreign based players, only wanting players from Naps or Pres or W Connection. I give credit to the coaching staff for selecting foreign based players;

Breds, this is far from the truth. We have been selecting foreign players not too long ago. Birchall being the most famous. There are some foreign-born who weigh their chances of playing for their birth country or their mother/father's country. But as standard have become higher and we in TT have lapsed, in some cases disastrously, our overseas born are there to choose. Some come willingly, others we have to "beg". The native born/foreign will always be there. It will not go away. Why allyuh don't ask Devisio Payne, the Dutch/US/Trini, why he would not play for TT. He gave his reason why he chose US. The women's team has a number of foreign born. Arin King comes to minds TF has Jarrin Solomon. Steve Brown was another one. What about Bobby Zamora. What about Nick Deleon. We waiting on them for the longest while.

The fact is, we MUST look at the home grown players. If we don't,  they will not want to play for TT if they know there is preferences for foreign born. There has to be a balance. Our U-17 has about 3 or 4 foreign born.  What is the issue here.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 09, 2015, 10:47:33 AM
Part of our failure began when we became tribal, saying no foreign based players, only wanting players from Naps or Pres or W Connection. I give credit to the coaching staff for selecting foreign based players;

Breds, this is far from the truth. We have been selecting foreign players not too long ago. Birchall being the most famous. There are some foreign-born who weigh their chances of playing for their birth country or their mother/father's country. But as standard have become higher and we in TT have lapsed, in some cases disastrously, our overseas born are there to choose. Some come willingly, others we have to "beg". The native born/foreign will always be there. It will not go away. Why allyuh don't ask Devisio Payne, the Dutch/US/Trini, why he would not play for TT. He gave his reason why he chose US. The women's team has a number of foreign born. Arin King comes to minds TF has Jarrin Solomon. Steve Brown was another one. What about Bobby Zamora. What about Nick Deleon. We waiting on them for the longest while.

The fact is, we MUST look at the home grown players. If we don't,  they will not want to play for TT if they know there is preferences for foreign born. There has to be a balance. Our U-17 has about 3 or 4 foreign born.  What is the issue here.

You won't have to worry to much cause soon you will see less and less foreign born wanting to rep T&T.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 09, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
You won't have to worry to much cause soon you will see less and less foreign born wanting to rep T&T.

Breds, that is not the point. I in foreign, and I wanted my son to try out as a yute, but some of the trials clashed with school so it never worked out. My son always wanted to play. But leaving in the middle of the semester did not go well with his mother. The fact is,  there will always be a place on the national team for  foreign born Trinis. The main problem is when they come to Trini, they encounter all the problems with TTFA and money. Lack of resources. etc. Sometimes their parents just have to shake their heads and wonder if they did the right thing.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 09, 2015, 11:23:04 AM
So Cooper going and take over the U15 Boys NT next?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on March 09, 2015, 12:49:33 PM
"We" in French, refers to a large, vaguely defined group. "We" have no standards, implies that you are a doctor of Sociology and Psychology and that you have first hand scientific, laboratory tested undisputable evidence to support your argument. On the other hand, if you are not of that elk, or, somehow, wishing that you were, please refrain from disrespecting some of the posters on this forum, including myself, until you have first hand, undisputed, lab tested knowledge that "we" don't have any standards. Until then, speak for yourself.
Now, this argument about foreign this and foreign that, comprising a certain percentage of the team is rendered null and void, because if the coach doesnt have the skills to produce positive results on the field of play with the hand he was dealt with, then all of that shit doesn't matter. Every team in the world of sports has a captain for a reason. That individual is there as an extension of the coach. Every player understands the game plan and buys into it. Every player is well prepared and knows his or her role. It's called teamwork. It's the coach's responsibility to optimize his genius to accumulate wins or positive results with the hand he was dealt with.
Case in point. Coach Waldrum, who basically volunteered his services, coached a young women's team within one game of qualifying for the world cup. With very little or no contributions from the degenerate ttfa, and no women's league or academy to speak of, and no development program in sight, he almost did the unthinkable. By the way, Coach Waldrum is a foreigner. Had he been in charge of this u17 team, given the similarities in conditions, and without the support of Jack Warner, one could only speculate what the results would have been. Just in case you want to misunderstand me, I am not saying Cornmeal and Vranes were genuises for qualifying their respective teams for the world cups, rather, what I am saying is they lucked out because Warner played a significant role in making it possible for those two coaches to qualify those teams for the world cup. Cornmeal was one and done and Vranes can prove me wrong in the upcoming CCL championship.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on March 09, 2015, 01:19:02 PM
I don't know how effective this sounding board is...it seems to me it's more of a griping board where members gripe about the state of football.

There are some members who try to make observations, identify problems and try to put forth real solutions. Most members try  their hardest to express their frustration without really trying to make an assessment of the problems in order to come to some meaningful solution.

This board should serve as a powerful weapon ,  as well as a tool; it should be  place of resource because their are many members with experience and  real knowledge.

From my observation there are few die hard members who seems to have the power to douse the
flames of dissent by coming out in support for the status quo regardless.

It doesn't matter if it is abusive coaches, coaches who lack real insight, poor planning, coaches who are negligent, incompetent coaches and or staff, sexual impropriety,and the list goes on..these members would sneak in their support with subliminal messages thereby quelling any possibilities for mutiny.

I notice that this is the standard operating procedure for this site.

Reasonable thinkers ...which most of us are..would try to make sense of a situation before us and try to locate the resources in order to find the appropriate solution.

There is a stark problem before us. Youth football is the most important area in football. Our ( your) youth program at present is not in good hands (National Teams)...it is time to make a change.

My recommendation is to recruit qualified coaches with experience in player development with DOC credentials. What are your recommendations?

This would require actually hiring and paying this individual..there are many qualified candidates ..many of them are overseas.

There are potential candidates in Trindad as well ..I can think of a few who will, at least have a better relationship with the players , which goes a long way in  getting  the best out of them.

This coach cannot get the best out of any player on any level because the players don't trust him.?

What would you recommend for the future of your National Team? More of the same?... or better?

I choose the latter because  better comes with taking a chance on real meaniful change.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Peong on March 09, 2015, 03:46:13 PM
3 of the jamaica goals were very lucky. The first one, and the third and fourth.  2-1 would have still been a loss though.
Some bad defending from T&T.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on March 09, 2015, 04:33:35 PM
Nothing I could say that makes any real sense could stimulate any real discussion or intelligent feedback from the members on this forum ..a person must be skilled at griping, pecong, negative comments and personal attacks ...thus the mentality of the Trini.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 09, 2015, 04:37:58 PM
Its obvious that some of us don't like the truth, so much so that they want to know if I have a Phd. Why this is relevant to determine whether I can determine we don't have standards is yet to be stated. However, I am happy to see others like Coache getting to the heart of the matter while others pick out issues about foreign players which was not the point. I referenced foreign players relative to the Naps and Pres comments preferences as an equivalent to an international standard.

Those who don't agree with me, please tell me what our Football standards are for:

1. Coaching-minimum requirements for education, playing and experience
2. Team Manageer-minimum requirements education and experience
3. Physio-education and football specific training program sample for 12 month inclusive of recovery
4. Nutritionist - education,training and provision of sample nutritional annual program for players

What exactly are the qualification/standards required at TTFA:

1. President
2. General Secretary
3. What are requirements for JOMA, our kit sponsor?
4. What is the TTFA 20 year development plan?
5. What is the Ministry of SPort Development Plan
6. Do we have a TTFA formation that all youth teams play? Most Federations play 4-3-3.


Since its not my desire to insult anyone on this forum, I ask for specifics on the items above. As passionate advocates for football we have to be able to answer these questions and many more. If we can't then we don't have and don't know our standards. It might be painful to accept but the Women's coach showed what could be accomplished with standards regardless of TTFA support.

So let's be laser focused on talking about our STANDARDS, no distractions. SO WHAT ARE OUR FOOTBALL STANDARDS?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on March 09, 2015, 06:06:19 PM
Thank You Tobago28 I await responses to your questions which are some of the most relevant questions pertaining to our football.

Becareful Tobago because you are walking on thin ice with the members this forum and could bring serious harm to your credibility by endorsing any of my statements.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on March 09, 2015, 08:30:14 PM
And so it goes nobody else has nothing more to say on the subject...it is dead ..back to business as usual maintaining the status quo.

I have no doubt in my mind that this site is run by the TTFF itself for the sole purpose of Mamagism, a place for griping, venting frustration, and giving  a false sense of hope..the end result ..love your country despite her deficiencies and short comings..wave yuh flag..get yuh rag...wave something red white and black..doh worry wid dem..who go be in de stadium tonite I have a flag dat is 300yds  x 1000yds I need help to unfurl it so we can wave it with pride .

Dat's what dis forum is for..a place to talk about how much woman get bull ..how much Trini like fete..how we like a panorama side ..puttin een de final piece de night before de final..

All yuh rel good oui ..and allyuh want to say I dis an I dat...you all are not serious people...it's a tragedy.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Bakes on March 09, 2015, 09:27:57 PM
Cheese on bread... coache, here dred

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Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 09, 2015, 10:03:17 PM
Its obvious that some of us don't like the truth, so much so that they want to know if I have a Phd. Why this is relevant to determine whether I can determine we don't have standards is yet to be stated. However, I am happy to see others like Coache getting to the heart of the matter while others pick out issues about foreign players which was not the point. I referenced foreign players relative to the Naps and Pres comments preferences as an equivalent to an international standard.

Those who don't agree with me, please tell me what our Football standards are for:

1. Coaching-minimum requirements for education, playing and experience
2. Team Manageer-minimum requirements education and experience
3. Physio-education and football specific training program sample for 12 month inclusive of recovery
4. Nutritionist - education,training and provision of sample nutritional annual program for players


What exactly are the qualification/standards required at TTFA:

1. President
2. General Secretary
3. What are requirements for JOMA, our kit sponsor?
4. What is the TTFA 20 year development plan?
5. What is the Ministry of SPort Development Plan
6. Do we have a TTFA formation that all youth teams play? Most Federations play 4-3-3.


Since its not my desire to insult anyone on this forum, I ask for specifics on the items above. As passionate advocates for football we have to be able to answer these questions and many more. If we can't then we don't have and don't know our standards. It might be painful to accept but the Women's coach showed what could be accomplished with standards regardless of TTFA support.

So let's be laser focused on talking about our STANDARDS, no distractions. SO WHAT ARE OUR FOOTBALL STANDARDS?


From the esteemed General Secretary....

General Secretary embraces lyrically with SWO members - Part II
By Inshan Mohammed.



 
elan
 
What are your criteria (experience, coaching licenses, education, etc) for selecting youth coaches for NT positions?
A history of winning and players thriving under their guidance.
 
Have you all developed a plan/program which will give us a better opportunity to qualify for Youth WC which will eventually lead to a greater chance of qualifying at the senior WC? Has anyone presented a plan to the FA?
Yes, we developed a plan called Project 2018 that establishes a goal of having every national team qualify for at least one FIFA tournament by 2018.  A budget has been submitted to the ministry and we are working with them and other prospective commercial partners to establish year round programs and finishing the GOAL project so the teams will have a home to prepare for their competitions and develop players. 

Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: coache on March 09, 2015, 10:27:59 PM
This proves that this site is the sounding board of the TTFF.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 10, 2015, 06:09:51 AM
Actually, I think they should be announcing a technical director soon.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 10, 2015, 11:36:09 AM
This proves that this site is the sounding board of the TTFF.

I disagree. Some of us(like myself) are giving TTFA a bit of a leeway for now, given the circumstances that they inherited. Some have no intention of doing that. Some want them out immediately. I can understand and accept all the points of view. But to say we are a sounding board for them is not true.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on March 11, 2015, 04:22:41 AM
3 of the jamaica goals were very lucky. The first one, and the third and fourth.  2-1 would have still been a loss though.
Some bad defending from T&T.


You make your own luck in football. I am sure you saw that goal Kaka scored for Orlando bs NY city.... pure luck, but would not have happened without Kaka's taking a shot in the first place.  You get what I'm saying
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Deeks on March 11, 2015, 05:12:18 AM
3 of the jamaica goals were very lucky. The first one, and the third and fourth.  2-1 would have still been a loss though.
Some bad defending from T&T.


You make your own luck in football. I am sure you saw that goal Kaka scored for Orlando bs NY city.... pure luck, but would not have happened without Kaka's taking a shot in the first place.  You get what I'm saying

Agree!!!
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: socalion on March 11, 2015, 07:36:28 AM
Here's the reality  jamaica  won,  it's that simple ... by extentsion  i wish them the best in their aim to get to the world cup ..!!  best wishes  to the  R/Boyz...
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on March 11, 2015, 08:24:15 AM
I wanted to get a better understanding of the significance of this final game between Cuba and T&T to see who had more at stake as far as the development of the game in their respective countries was concerned and the intangible\tangible factors affecting them either positively or negatively.
You know they say when you think you have it bad, your next door neighbor has it worse. Well, Cuba is not exactly next door neighbors but literally speaking they can be considered just that - neighbors. They happen to be, arguably, the largest Caribbean nation in the region, population wise, and the first Caribbean country to play in a FIFA sponsored World Cup. Yeah, that distinction belongs to Cuba and not Jamaica. But later on that fact. Anyway, this is a little history on Cuba and football in that big little Caribbean nation, if you will:

From BBC News, Havana, Cuba - Euro 2012 football fever hits baseball-loving Cuba. By Sarah Rainsford


"Support for football has grown a lot among young Cubans in recent years," "It's a football revolution," says student Manuel Alejandro "There are more fans here every day. Euro 2012 has had people glued to their TV sets across the island."

"We're not just following the championship, it has paralysed Cuba. All young Cubans are watching and they know every detail," says Carlos Mendez. The taxi driver is head of Cuba's very own fan club for Spanish club Barcelona's star striker, Lionel Messi. His Havana home is plastered with pictures of the player.

It is illegal to have satellite TV at home here, but state TV is carrying the championship live and it is on screens in bars, homes, even supermarkets. "Since they started showing football on TV here, support for the game has been growing. Now it is a passion," Carlos says. Baseball is on TV every day during the National Series. But it was not until 1998 that a football World Cup was screened live.

Now El Clasico - the Real Madrid-Barcelona clash in Spain - is shown live too, and one European league game is chosen for rebroadcast every week. There are still problems: if state TV is not showing a "Barca" (Barcelona) match, he has to run around Havana's hotels trying to catch it on satellite. But at least he can now get in. Cubans were not allowed to enter hotels until 2008.

While passion for international football is mounting, the domestic game lags far behind.

Football enthusiasts know very little about Cuban league teams. Travelling between provinces to matches costs money and is complicated. There is little media coverage, and even the Cup final is not televised. "I watch every Barcelona match, but I've never been to see Havana play," admits Carlos Mendez, and his Messi fan club friends all agree. "I just don't follow them. It's not the same quality."
Havana's main football stadium is a neglected, sorry-looking place, its facade faded and its rough pitch covered in long grass better suited to Sunday league football than international fixtures.

Cuba has not made it to a World Cup since 1938.

Still, when the national side took on Canada in a recent World Cup qualifier to try to change that, a few thousand hopeful fans turned out, faces painted, flags and hooters in hand. "We have more success in baseball and boxing. I think our footballers could do the same, they just need the opportunities," said Jose Gomez, wrapped in a Barcelona flag.

"And if they can't play in foreign leagues, they will never get better," he added.

Professional football, like all sport, was abolished in Cuba with the revolution.

"Our pitches are bad, there are no good trainers. The team has to take public transport while baseball players get cars," says another fan, Yosef Borraya.

"If one day they start getting results they'll suddenly get everything they need. But that's the wrong way round!" he complains.

Those in charge of the game here accept there are problems.

"Our football pitches and stadiums need improving for official competitions. And we need to work from the bottom up with young players," says Antonio Garces Segura, vice president of Cuba's Football Association. Meantime, there is no denying Cuba's enduring passion for baseball.
Cuban children play baseball. Baseball is still entrenched as Cuba's national sport

Every day, a group of men lock horns in furious debate under the shade of palm-trees in a central Havana square.

It looks like a fight from a distance, with voices raised and arms waving wildly. But the men are discussing the latest game.

"There's no tradition of football here," one man explains, in a break in the shouting match. "We've been playing baseball for generations."

They say the sport runs in their blood.

But what if a big ball game and El Clasico match were both scheduled for the same day?

"People of my age would go to the baseball," says Gilberto, in his 60s. "But the young would watch the football," he laughs.

It is a big swing in allegiance.

Cuba's national sport still gets most of the official attention and funding.

But when it comes to luring fans, football has emerged as a strong competitor.

This final game between these two Caribbean nations is not just about pride but it is about two football programs going in two different directions. Both trying to claim a spot in the next FIFA sponsored World Cup. This game will reveal a whole lot about each.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 11, 2015, 01:16:45 PM
Its obvious that some of us don't like the truth, so much so that they want to know if I have a Phd. Why this is relevant to determine whether I can determine we don't have standards is yet to be stated. However, I am happy to see others like Coache getting to the heart of the matter while others pick out issues about foreign players which was not the point. I referenced foreign players relative to the Naps and Pres comments preferences as an equivalent to an international standard.

Those who don't agree with me, please tell me what our Football standards are for:

1. Coaching-minimum requirements for education, playing and experience
2. Team Manageer-minimum requirements education and experience
3. Physio-education and football specific training program sample for 12 month inclusive of recovery
4. Nutritionist - education,training and provision of sample nutritional annual program for players


What exactly are the qualification/standards required at TTFA:

1. President
2. General Secretary
3. What are requirements for JOMA, our kit sponsor?
4. What is the TTFA 20 year development plan?
5. What is the Ministry of SPort Development Plan
6. Do we have a TTFA formation that all youth teams play? Most Federations play 4-3-3.


Since its not my desire to insult anyone on this forum, I ask for specifics on the items above. As passionate advocates for football we have to be able to answer these questions and many more. If we can't then we don't have and don't know our standards. It might be painful to accept but the Women's coach showed what could be accomplished with standards regardless of TTFA support.

So let's be laser focused on talking about our STANDARDS, no distractions. SO WHAT ARE OUR FOOTBALL STANDARDS?


From the esteemed General Secretary....

General Secretary embraces lyrically with SWO members - Part II
By Inshan Mohammed.



 
elan
 
What are your criteria (experience, coaching licenses, education, etc) for selecting youth coaches for NT positions?
A history of winning and players thriving under their guidance.
 
Have you all developed a plan/program which will give us a better opportunity to qualify for Youth WC which will eventually lead to a greater chance of qualifying at the senior WC? Has anyone presented a plan to the FA?
Yes, we developed a plan called Project 2018 that establishes a goal of having every national team qualify for at least one FIFA tournament by 2018.  A budget has been submitted to the ministry and we are working with them and other prospective commercial partners to establish year round programs and finishing the GOAL project so the teams will have a home to prepare for their competitions and develop players. 


Elan-When was that statement made? Has anyone seen a copy Project 2018? Why is it not on the TTFA website? What is the follow up?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 11, 2015, 01:24:16 PM
Here's the reality  jamaica  won,  it's that simple ... by extentsion  i wish them the best in their aim to get to the world cup ..!!  best wishes  to the  R/Boyz...

Best Wishes to Jamaica tonight, I will be supporting 1000%. A Jamaican win will put the USA in the playoff and Honduras beating Guatemala will automatically qualify.

GO ReggaeBoyz
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 11, 2015, 01:34:23 PM
This proves that this site is the sounding board of the TTFF.

I disagree. Some of us(like myself) are giving TTFA a bit of a leeway for now, given the circumstances that they inherited. Some have no intention of doing that. Some want them out immediately. I can understand and accept all the points of view. But to say we are a sounding board for them is not true.

Deeks-I agree they inherited a mess BUT? Weren't many of these same folks there during the TTFF? So is this really an inheritance when the same folks are still there?

Whether its an inheritance or not, people have to perform or MOVE ON. They need sponsorship but this car park money switch erode any confidence corporations were beginning to develop  in the TTFA. Corporations want their brand associated with integrity, quality and winners at present the TTFA does not add value to a corporate brand. The reality is no corporation sponsored Eldrick Woods but when he became TIGER Woods he could not stop the sponsors, he had a small challenge with his wife so sponsors left. Many of them have flowed back to Tiger though he has not dominated. The point is corporations want to protect their brand and TTFA sponsorship currently will not benefit anyone's brand.

We the FOOTBALL FANATICS are desperate to associate with TTFA and our NATIONAL FOOTBALL, however it would appear that the TTFA does not want us.

Time waits for no one.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 11, 2015, 01:57:15 PM
Its obvious that some of us don't like the truth, so much so that they want to know if I have a Phd. Why this is relevant to determine whether I can determine we don't have standards is yet to be stated. However, I am happy to see others like Coache getting to the heart of the matter while others pick out issues about foreign players which was not the point. I referenced foreign players relative to the Naps and Pres comments preferences as an equivalent to an international standard.

Those who don't agree with me, please tell me what our Football standards are for:

1. Coaching-minimum requirements for education, playing and experience
2. Team Manageer-minimum requirements education and experience
3. Physio-education and football specific training program sample for 12 month inclusive of recovery
4. Nutritionist - education,training and provision of sample nutritional annual program for players


What exactly are the qualification/standards required at TTFA:

1. President
2. General Secretary
3. What are requirements for JOMA, our kit sponsor?
4. What is the TTFA 20 year development plan?
5. What is the Ministry of SPort Development Plan
6. Do we have a TTFA formation that all youth teams play? Most Federations play 4-3-3.


Since its not my desire to insult anyone on this forum, I ask for specifics on the items above. As passionate advocates for football we have to be able to answer these questions and many more. If we can't then we don't have and don't know our standards. It might be painful to accept but the Women's coach showed what could be accomplished with standards regardless of TTFA support.

So let's be laser focused on talking about our STANDARDS, no distractions. SO WHAT ARE OUR FOOTBALL STANDARDS?


From the esteemed General Secretary....

General Secretary embraces lyrically with SWO members - Part II
By Inshan Mohammed.



 
elan
 
What are your criteria (experience, coaching licenses, education, etc) for selecting youth coaches for NT positions?
A history of winning and players thriving under their guidance.
 
Have you all developed a plan/program which will give us a better opportunity to qualify for Youth WC which will eventually lead to a greater chance of qualifying at the senior WC? Has anyone presented a plan to the FA?
Yes, we developed a plan called Project 2018 that establishes a goal of having every national team qualify for at least one FIFA tournament by 2018.  A budget has been submitted to the ministry and we are working with them and other prospective commercial partners to establish year round programs and finishing the GOAL project so the teams will have a home to prepare for their competitions and develop players. 


Elan-When was that statement made? Has anyone seen a copy Project 2018? Why is it not on the TTFA website? What is the follow up?

November 20th 2014.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 11, 2015, 02:01:16 PM
This proves that this site is the sounding board of the TTFF.

I disagree. Some of us(like myself) are giving TTFA a bit of a leeway for now, given the circumstances that they inherited. Some have no intention of doing that. Some want them out immediately. I can understand and accept all the points of view. But to say we are a sounding board for them is not true.

Deeks-I agree they inherited a mess BUT? Weren't many of these same folks there during the TTFF? So is this really an inheritance when the same folks are still there?

Whether its an inheritance or not, people have to perform or MOVE ON. They need sponsorship but this car park money switch erode any confidence corporations were beginning to develop  in the TTFA. Corporations want their brand associated with integrity, quality and winners at present the TTFA does not add value to a corporate brand. The reality is no corporation sponsored Eldrick Woods but when he became TIGER Woods he could not stop the sponsors, he had a small challenge with his wife so sponsors left. Many of them have flowed back to Tiger though he has not dominated. The point is corporations want to protect their brand and TTFA sponsorship currently will not benefit anyone's brand.

We the FOOTBALL FANATICS are desperate to associate with TTFA and our NATIONAL FOOTBALL, however it would appear that the TTFA does not want us.

Time waits for no one.

We is the problem, not the TTFA. See for some crazy reason we expect too much from the FA. As a matter of fact, we are crazy for expecting anything from the TTFA.

After all, ALL our team are out on the field, not just competing, but being Competitive. Is that not Performance from the TTFA?

 :'(
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 11, 2015, 02:53:11 PM
It has amazes me that we keep playing a high back line when 1. The GK decision on coming out needs improvement, and 2. Our defenders have no speed and quickness.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: King Deese on March 11, 2015, 03:05:03 PM
25th minute into the first half, Cuba still leading 1 - 0, with a goal scored in the 6th minute of play.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 11, 2015, 03:52:01 PM
Anybody have a link?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 11, 2015, 03:57:10 PM
Link I was watching gone at 1/2 time.  :frustrated:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 11, 2015, 04:04:47 PM
T&T 2 vs Cuba 1 71'
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 11, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
T&T 2 vs Cuba 2 84'
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on March 11, 2015, 05:04:14 PM
T&T earned its only point at the 2015 CONCACAF U-17 Championship with a 2-2 draw with Cuba. Cuba scored early in the contest with a 6th minute item from Eduard Puga. T&T hit back with two second-half goals, from midfielder Kareem Riley (65’) and captain Noah Powder (71’). However, Cuba got their equalizer through defender Carlos Borromeo in the 84th minute.

Results

Trinidad & Tobago  2  v  Cuba  2
Riley 65    Puga 6
Powder 71   Borromeo 84

Teams

Trinidad & Tobago: - 20.Tyrek James; 2.Isaiah Garcia, 4.Tekay Hoyce (5.Shirwin Noel 92nd), 12.Kierron Mason, 19.Noah Powder, 8.Joshua Burnett (Yellow 82), 6.Kareem Riley, 13.Kishon Hackshaw (9.Chaz Burnett 83rd), 16.Shobal Celestin (14.Isaiah Hudson 62nd), 10.Morgan Bruce, 7.Shakeem Patrick.

Coach: - Shawn Cooper.

Cuba: - 1.Lazaro Garcia; 15.Yeffrey Delgado, 4.Carlos Borromeo (Yellow 92), 14.Yon Hernandez, 3.Dariel Morejon, 11.Nelson Betancourt (6.Jonathan Ramirez 45th - Yellow 61), 18.Neisser Sando, 13.Serguey Campillo (16.Brian Savigne 68th), 7.Raycharles Herrera, 10.Eduard Puga, 8.Yosniel Gonzalez (9.Carlos Sebrango 81st).

Coach: - Fidel Salazar.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 11, 2015, 06:39:53 PM
Cooper should take some notes from Edwards.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 11, 2015, 06:49:05 PM
Wi, Lose or Draw, Jamaica must get their props. :applause:
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: reggae-fan on March 12, 2015, 12:38:13 AM
Wi, Lose or Draw, Jamaica must get their props. :applause:
after defeating the USA, the Jamaicans were on the edge of their seats as they backed Guatemala to either defeat or tie with hosts Honduras, which would have secured direct passage to the world cup for the young Jamaicans.  As it were, Honduras edged Guatemala 2-1 which means Jamaica must now qualify with a victory in its next game.  In hindsight, failing to beat Cuba (2-2) could end up being very costly for they Jamaicans.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tobago28 on March 13, 2015, 01:11:26 PM
The tournament is over for us, have to look forward to 2017 FiFa U-20 World Cup qualifying for this group. Hope fully we will have a 18 month plan to keep these boys together and playing after studying this experience.

I looked at the Concacaf website at our statistics for the tournament, some of them are:

11th/12th Tied with Cuba and St. Lucia for 2nd to least goals scored---4
9th shots on goal----41
10th in fouls committed--45
1st in fouls suffered--75
11th/12th with Yellow Cards

I would appreciate some feedback about what the stats above say about team philosophy, style of play and anything else you might think.

By comparison our Caribbean rivals Jamaica were:

7th Goals Scored--9
4th Shots on Goal-64
1st Fouls committed--74
11th/12 Fouls suffered
1st with Yellow Cards -14

So wah allyuh tink?



Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 14, 2015, 12:42:32 PM
The team should have been back since Monday night, how come we have not heard anything from the Coach yet?
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 15, 2015, 06:51:54 PM
Sweating bullets supporting Jamaica here.

Costa Rica dispatched Canada back to the frigid Northern Territories.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 15, 2015, 07:10:21 PM
Jamaica loses 5-4 on PK after 0-0 at 90'
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Tallman on March 18, 2015, 04:25:27 AM
The team should have been back since Monday night, how come we have not heard anything from the Coach yet?

The Trinidad and Tobago U-17 football team are back in the country following their humiliating early exit from the CONCACAF U-17 Championships in Honduras.

The team drew one match and lost four conceding 15 goals in the process.

Coach of the team Shawn Cooper said the results were obviously a disappointment and tried to explain what went wrong.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/videos/-Cooper-on-players---296667731.html
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: elan on March 18, 2015, 11:49:32 AM
The team should have been back since Monday night, how come we have not heard anything from the Coach yet?

The Trinidad and Tobago U-17 football team are back in the country following their humiliating early exit from the CONCACAF U-17 Championships in Honduras.

The team drew one match and lost four conceding 15 goals in the process.

Coach of the team Shawn Cooper said the results were obviously a disappointment and tried to explain what went wrong.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/videos/-Cooper-on-players---296667731.html

Cooper cyah be serious. The man blame the players yes. How you pick a GK and then say he had never played competitive matches before........WTF. This guy is some type of delirious and suffer from the same unprofessional and lack of experience he accuse the young boys of.

This confirms everything I heard that he did to players during the tournament. He need not be a coach.


What was he doing in T&T leading up to the Camp in Panama? Sitting waiting for 2, 3, 4, 5 camps to magically make us better? This is arseness in out National coaches constantly passing the buck to the players when we do not perform well. If we had done much better I bet you he would have been physically present in front of cameras and microphones. But he hiding and giving a 30 second comment on a phone.

If the preparation from the TTFA was not good enough for YOU to do your best, then why do you think it is enough for the boys to do better?

Absolutely, childish, classless and amateurish from this guy. He need to have several seats.

We have NO leaders, NONE that are placed in a position to impart quality characteristics and traits onto our players.
Title: Re: 2015 CONCACAF Men's Under-17 Championship Thread.
Post by: Rastaman on March 18, 2015, 08:53:01 PM
The team should have been back since Monday night, how come we have not heard anything from the Coach yet?

The Trinidad and Tobago U-17 football team are back in the country following their humiliating early exit from the CONCACAF U-17 Championships in Honduras.

The team drew one match and lost four conceding 15 goals in the process.

Coach of the team Shawn Cooper said the results were obviously a disappointment and tried to explain what went wrong.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/videos/-Cooper-on-players---296667731.html

Cooper cyah be serious. The man blame the players yes. How you pick a GK and then say he had never played competitive matches before........WTF. This guy is some type of delirious and suffer from the same unprofessional and lack of experience he accuse the young boys of.

This confirms everything I heard that he did to players during the tournament. He need not be a coach.


What was he doing in T&T leading up to the Camp in Panama? Sitting waiting for 2, 3, 4, 5 camps to magically make us better? This is arseness in out National coaches constantly passing the buck to the players when we do not perform well. If we had done much better I bet you he would have been physically present in front of cameras and microphones. But he hiding and giving a 30 second comment on a phone.

If the preparation from the TTFA was not good enough for YOU to do your best, then why do you think it is enough for the boys to do better?

Absolutely, childish, classless and amateurish from this guy. He need to have several seats.

We have NO leaders, NONE that are placed in a position to impart quality characteristics and traits onto our players.
somehow I ent get that from that interview.
He said players need to take more responsibility for their personal preparation, maybe there were specific instances...
He was using the example of the goalkeepers lack of experience due to lack of adequate preperation aka. Cancelled camps where players  would get the necessary preperation.
Don't see it as blaming players. The last team he has was better prepared and we got better results. Men was calling for him to be senior team coach and all....
This crop of players were at a disadvantage to begin with. Let us take it for what it is.
Title: U-17 WC Chile
Post by: Deeks on October 19, 2015, 09:52:37 PM
South Korea just beat Brazil.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKXQtw76ojc
Title: Re: U-17 WC Chile
Post by: asylumseeker on October 19, 2015, 11:16:06 PM
That means Brazil is tasked with slaying England.
Title: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: Bitter on October 20, 2015, 05:30:31 PM
Nigeria and Chile playing now on FS2.
This is a good game so far.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 24, 2015, 12:46:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/7vimTdVsSME

Australia v. Mexico
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 24, 2015, 05:19:57 PM
Argentina seems not to have fielded a quality squad. Lost by destruction 4-0 v. Germany and is losing 2-0 versus Australia as I post. Confirmation of a perspective.

Meanwhile Germany and Mexico are battling for 1st place in the group. Mexico is up 1-0 courtesy a deflected shot.

EDIT: 2-0. Excellent delivery on a corner. Brilliant header by Venegas. @ approx 65'

EDIT: Germany scores as I post. 2-1.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: real madness on October 24, 2015, 08:43:16 PM
Argentina seems not to have fielded a quality squad. Lost by destruction 4-0 v. Germany and is losing 2-0 versus Australia as I post. Confirmation of a perspective.

Meanwhile Germany and Mexico are battling for 1st place in the group. Mexico is up 1-0 courtesy a deflected shot.

EDIT: 2-0. Excellent delivery on a corner. Brilliant header by Venegas. @ approx 65'

EDIT: Germany scores as I post. 2-1.

I would say the Argentina squad just shitty....the Brazil squad too.  Leandro is the savior on that Brazil squad.  They go as he goes.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 28, 2015, 03:48:53 PM
Round of 16 action commenced today. Brazil is in a tense battle with New Zealand. Tied 0-0 @ 90+. Mexico, barring any last minute dramatics, will make the home team and fans cry.

Other two matches to kick off in about three hours (Nigeria v Australia and South Korea v Belgium).
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 28, 2015, 05:06:44 PM
Round of 16

Brazil edge past resolute New Zealand
FIFA.com


(http://img.fifa.com/mm/photo/tournament/competition/02/72/27/77/2722777_full-lnd.jpg)

Brazil edged past a brave New Zealand side in Vina Del Mar and needed a stoppage-time penalty kick to win 1-0 and advance to the FIFA U-17 World Cup Chile 2015 quarter-fnals.

The first half in Vina Del Mar was characterised by a resilient New Zealand defensive performance even though Brazil, without star Lincoln due to a red card from the previous game, enjoyed the majority of possession. The Young All Whites were able to limit their South American opponents' chances, however goalkeeper Michael Woud was called upon to make three key saves in the first half, denying Geovane and Luis Henrique on two separate occasions.

New Zealand were unable to get a single shot off in the first half, however, they were appealing for a penalty kick when Connor Probert was brought down in the area.

New Zealand had a heart-in-mouth moment early in the second half when Woud, who had been flawless during the match, left his penalty area to make a clearance, only for it land at the feet of Luis Henrique whose shot was drilled straight at the New Zealand defense and cleared.

Woud made a save at his near post in the 62nd minute after an extended period of Brazilian pressure on the New Zealand backline. And just when the momentum seemed to be on Brazil's side, Kleber conceded a penalty kick to New Zealand after tripping Lucas Imrie in the area. However it was heartbreak for New Zealand as James McGarry missed the resulting penalty kick, blasting his shot over the crossbar. Unfortunately for McGarry that would not be the worst part of his day.

After enduring a couple of chances from New Zealand, Brazil continued to control the game at the Estadio Sausalito and had two dangerous free-kicks near the end of the 90 minutes but were unable to convert them. New Zealand stayed resolute in the back and Woud and Co thought they had done enough to hang on and send the match to penalties, however McGarry fouled Luis Henrique in the penalty area in the last minute of injury time. Luis Henrique then converted his penalty sharply to his left and the referee promptly blew his whistle for full time

Brazil will play the winner of the Round of 16 match between Nigeria and Australia.
 
Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298408/index.html)
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 28, 2015, 05:11:16 PM
Round of 16

Mexico into last eight, send hosts out
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Mexico came from behind to see off Chile with a 4-1 win in a fervent Chillan atmosphere to send the hosts out of the competition at the Round of 16 stage, and put the two-time FIFA U-17 World Cup winners into the last eight. Brian Leiva's opener saw the Estadio Nelson Oyarzún Arenas erupt in jubilant celebration, but the fans' joy was momentary. Claudio Zamudio tapped El Tri level before turning provider for Pablo Lopez to put Mario Arteaga's side ahead. Lopez in turn crossed for Eduardo Aguirre to score before Diego Cortes rubberstamped the victory.

The first big chance of the game fell Mexico’s way, with Zacarias Lopez scrambling to tip Jose Esquivel’s header past his left-hand post, before the same player’s header goes just wide from the resulting corner kick. But it would be Chile who went ahead five minutes before the interval. A perfect inswinging corner from Rene Melendez found Leiva, who nodded past Abraham Romero in the Mexican goal.

The hosts’ lead was short-lived, as El Tri sprung quickly to level. Aguirre played the ball wide to Kevin Magana, who squared across the box to the sliding Zamudio who tapped in a simple finish. Chile responded, with Gabriel Mazuela then finding space on the right and fizzed a cross towards Allende, which just missed the diminutive No10. Melendez picked the ball up on the left and struck the ball back across the box, but his cross-shot flashed wide.

Zamudio turned provider for Mexico’s second, pivoting on the edge of the Chilean penalty area and teeing up the onrushing Pablo Lopez. The midfielder showed wonderful technique to hit a first time effort with the outside of his left foot past the Chile goalkeeper. Pablo Lopez then retrieved the ball on the Mexican left, close to the corner flag and whipped in a delicious cross. Zacarias Lopez waited for the ball but Aguirre nipped in ahead of the Chilean goalkeeper and poked home.

Cortes' late effort saw him find space in the Chilean penalty area before sweeping past Zacarias Lopez to add further gloss to the victory. Mexico's win sees them into the quarter-final, where they head to Coquimbo to face the victor of tomorrow's clash between Russia and Ecuador.

Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298395/index.html)
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: Deeks on October 28, 2015, 07:35:42 PM
Nigeria beat Aussie 6 zip.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 28, 2015, 07:38:36 PM
Round of 16

Osimhen leads imperious champs past Aussies
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Reigning FIFA U-17 World Cup champions Nigeria advanced to a quarter-final meeting against Brazil on the back of a hat-trick from the impressive Victor Osimhen, ending Australia’s run with a one-sided 6-0 victory in Vina Del Mar.

The tale of the first half was compacted into a three-minute period as Nigeria scored twice sandwiched either side of a gilt-edged opening for Australia.

It was 2-0 at the interval, and the game was still a contest until the final 17 minutes before Nigeria ran riot against an Australian side looking flat after surviving the ‘group of death’.

The Aussies started in pro-active fashion, but it was Funsho Ibrahim Bamgboye who hit the post with a rasping shot from the edge of the penalty area as Nigeria’s first effort narrowly failed to break the deadlock.

That moment came on 22 minutes as Osimhen showed just why he is the tournament’s leading goalscorer by bursting forward with pace and power on the left, before turning his defender and sliding the ball impressively inside the far post.

Australia could have drawn level immediately with Cameron Joice seeing his shot saved, while Lucas Derrick pushed the follow-up wide as a golden opportunity was spurned.

Almost immediately Nigeria were two in front as Funsho Bambgboye went to ground in the penalty area, and Kelechi Nwakali coolly slotted home the resultant penalty.

The two goals seemed to inspire the Nigerians who took a greater hold as the half wore on creating several half-openings around the Aussie goal.

Nigeria continued their powerful performance after the break, and although Australia dominated possession for periods, it was the Africans who ended the contest with a third.

Osimhen scored twice in the space of six minutes, the second with another laser-perfect drive into the top corner.

The deflated Aussies conceded to more goals in the dying minutes as firstly substitute Edidiong Michael Essien, and then Samuel Chukwueze, inflicted further pain as Nigeria stormed into the last-eight in confident fashion.

Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298407/index.html)
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 28, 2015, 07:40:59 PM
Round of 16

Belgium break new ground
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Ten-man Belgium won their first ever FIFA U-17 World Cup knockout game, defeating Korea Republic 2-0 in a straightforward victory that booked the European side a last-eight date with the victors of Costa Rica and France's clash in Puerto Montt on Thursday.

Birthday boy Jorn Vancamp became the first player to score against the Taeguk Warriors at Chile 2015, before Matthias Verreth's late stunner confirmed the European side's progress. Lee Seungwoo saw his penalty saved by Jens Teunckens after Laurent Lemoine was sent off, and the Koreans could not capitalise on their advantage during the final 20 minutes.

Belgium took the initiative early on. Lee Sangmin surrendered possession in the middle of the Korea Republic midfield, which led to Belgium springing a swift counter attack. Vancamp latched onto Dante Rigo's long ball which the Korean defence failed to cut out and the No19 kept his composure to slot underneath Ahn Joonsoo, the first goal that the Asian side had conceded at Chile 2015.

Just before the interval, Terry Osei-Berkoe switched from the left to Vancamp, who was in good position but missed the ball completely. Verreth follows up with a powerful shot, which went close.

Belgium threatened again in the second half, with Osei-Berkoe unable to finish after Verreth had cut back across the penalty area.

Verreth sealed the victory with a wonderful effort. A long clearance from the Belgian defence was chased down by the long-legged frontman. The PSV Eindhoven forward reached it ahead of the Korea Republic defence, cut inside onto his left foot and hit a thunderous drive past the despairing dive of Ahn Joonsoo, who was left with no chance.

Two substitutes combined for Korea Republic to create an opportunity for the Asian side to pull a goal back. Lee Sangheon slipped in Oh Sehun, who was pulled back by Laurent Lemoine, who saw red for his indiscretion. Seungwoo stuttered in his run up, and Teunckens guessed right, keeping out his spot kick.

The Koreans did not take advantage of their extra man in the closing stages, with Belgium holding firm and Teunckens in particularly inspired form to keep out a Kim Jungmin overhead kick. The historic victory for the Belgians sees them head to Concepcion for their last eight clash, against either Los Ticos or Les Bleuets.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 29, 2015, 05:06:44 PM
Germans cyah ketch a break at these events. Lost 2-0 to Croatia. Meanwhile, the Malians have tracked forward as did their U20 counterparts. Downed North Korea 3-0.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 29, 2015, 09:45:11 PM
Round of 16

Croatia cruise into last eight
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Croatia booked a place in the last eight of the FIFA U-17 World Cup with a 2-0 victory against Germany in their first ever knockout game at this level. Talismanic captain Nikola Moro grabbed the opening goal of the game in the first half, and Davor Lovren's late goal sealed the victory to see them progress to a quarter-final against Mali in Chillan on Sunday.

The Croats gave their European counterparts an early warning shot. Good build-up play across the German penalty area led to Josip Brekalo hitting with his left foot from the edge of the box. The strike was well saved by Constantin Frommann, who pushed it onto the woodwork.

Brekalo was involved moments later, when his side took the lead after Germany failed to heed the warning. The No7 broke free down the Croatian left before whipping a cross in. Karlo Majic failed to finish but Nikola Moro took over to slide home clinically from just outside the six yard box

Germany, initially stunned by their opponents' attacking play, grew in stature as the opening half wore on. Salih Ozcan broke free of the Croatian defence, with Vinko Soldo chasing, he looked to take it around Adrian Semper but the keeper claimed the ball with a massive spread of his arms.

Passlack was involved in a couple more chances for the Germans, first crossing for Eggestein and having a shot himself, but he could not level matters.

The second half was bereft of many clear-cut opportunities, with Germany attempting to impress themselves on the game further and Croatia dealing with them well. Passlack was influential in finding space time and again down the German right but his repeated attempts to either set up his teammates or shoot himself were halted by the Croatian defence.

The standout chance of the second period for the Germans saw a delicious ball whipped in by Vitaly Janelt from their right-hand side. With Eggestein following in at the back post, the forward could not find the finish.

Lovren's stoppage time breakaway goal relieved a period of extended German pressure and rubberstamped a win that will see the Croats head to Chillan for a quarter-final showdown with Mali on Sunday.

Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298394/index.html)

Quotes

“I’m feeling great because this is the best time of my life. I can only congratulate my players on what they did today in a hard match. We had a few matches in the European qualifying but this was the hardest. We are an excellent team, we played one hour at a great level and won a good way. At half time, I explained we had to manage the midfield better and this was key to the victory," Dario Basic, Croatia coach.

“Congratulations to Croatia for the deserved victory. We are disappointed because we expected better results from this World Cup. We played a very bad first half but in the second half we improved, yet we couldn't seize the opportunities we generated. This German team is very young and still lack the capacity to maintain an even level of play," Christian Wuck, Germany coach.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 29, 2015, 09:49:09 PM
Round of 16

Mali march on as Haidara's strike downs Korea DPR
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Mali made easy work of Korea DPR with a 3-0 victory at the Estadio Fiscal in Talca as the African champions eased into the quarter-finals of the FIFA U-17 World Cup Chile 2015, thanks to Amadou Haidara’s early blast and a brace from Sidiki Maiga.

Haidara opened the scoring in style for Mali with less than ten minutes on the clock. The No18 controlled an errant Korea DPR throw in off his chest with his first touch, his second created space and his third touch unleashed a venomous strike from 25 yards that flew by Ri Chol Song before he realised Haidara was lining up to shoot.

Ten minutes before the break, Maiga put Mali 2-0 ahead. Boubacar Traore served in a free-kick towards the penalty spot, and the No7 snuck behind the Korea DPR defence to fire home on his first touch past Ri.

Korea DPR nearly pulled one back on two occasions towards the end of the first half. Captain Han Kwang Song’s flashing header from a free-kick looked bound for the far post, but it was well saved by Samuel Diarra. Moments later, Han fired an acrobatic volley over the bar from a corner kick.

Mali put the game away shortly after the break with Haidara perfectly weighted through ball finding Maiaga behind the Korean backline to put away a first-time finish into the side netting for his second goal of the game.

Diarra was required to make a few more acrobatic saves as Korea DPR looked for a way back into the match, but Baye Ba’s squad was too strong for the Asian U-16 champions and the African champions now await a quarter-final showdown in Chillan against Croatia.

Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298372/index.html)

QUOTES
"It was a perfect match from our side but it was also a tough game. We had some difficulties as we received some yellow cards. Congratulations to my team. Korea had a good game with quick players. But we played better. Our individual skills brought us the victory. We are happy that we are now in the next round. The team is here to win the title but we will do it step by step. This was also our last match in Talca and I want to say thank you. We will take some great memories with us and we met new friends. I never watched a game of Croatia but I’m looking forward to analyze their match against Germany."
Baye Ba, Mali coach
 
"Our plan was to stop the offense of Mali from the beginning as we know how strong the strikers are. But unfortunately we conceded an early goal. My players improved from match to match. This is only another step on their way in football. They learnt a lot because we played against teams from America and Africa. They got many important experiences. The players will play in older age groups. This World Cup will help them."
Yon Kwang Mu, Korea DPR coach
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 29, 2015, 09:57:02 PM
Round of 16

Ecuador ease past Russia with win
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Ecuador saw off Russia 4-1 in an entertaining FIFA U-17 World Cup Round of 16 clash to set up a quarter-final with Mexico in Coquimbo on Monday.

Jhon Pereira was the star, opening the scoring and grabbing another in the second half with remarkably similar breakaway goals. Russia's flickering moment of hope came when Fedor Chalov equalised in the opening period, but Ecuador were back in front through Washington Corozo moments later. Juan Nazareno's thunderous effort capped a resounding win for the South Americans.

Pereira put the Ecuadorians ahead in the opening exchanges. The No11 won the ball from Andrei Zakharov near the halfway line on the Ecuador right and broke free down the right before slamming it past Maksimenko.

Russia's sole moment of joy came through their leveller. Ivan Galanin broke free of the Ecuadorian midfield and disguised a through pass beautifully by feinting to shoot. His ball found Chalov and the Russian No9 clinically slotted past Jose Cevallos to level.

Their joy was short-lived as Washington Corozo outmuscled Zakharov to find himself one-on-one with Maksimenko before lashing a shot past the Russian goalkeeper.

Chalov then masterfully controlled a wide cross on his chest before volleying towards goal. An inspired save by Cevallos saw the stopper turn it behind.

Pereira then served up a mirror image of his first half opener. He received the ball after a defensive error on the Russian right and sprinted clear of the backtracking defender Semen Matviichuk. The No11 once more kept his cool to dink over the oncoming Maksimenko.

The cherry on the cake for Ecuador was Nazareno's stunning strike. The ball broke to the No5 on the edge of the Russian box. He had time to steady himself before hitting a swerving drive into the top corner. Maksimenko stood no chance.

In sending the Russians home and reaching the last eight, Ecuador match their best ever performance at a FIFA tournament, which came when they reached the quarter-finals 20 years ago on home soil, also at this tournament.


QUOTES
“We are disappointed because of our elimination. We could have done better, we had big expectations. In the first half we managed to create some opportunities. However, after the first goal, Ecuador had complete control over the match. Congratulations to Ecuador, it is a well deserved victory, they are a very strong team," Mikhail Galaktionov, Russia coach.
 
“I liked the match we played today. We played a great match. We took risks and we beat a very difficult team. Russia was a strong opponent but we were aggressive in attack and defence. We have physically good players and we improve our young men’s mentality. We are a strong team and we expect further progress in the World Cup," Jose Rodriguez, Ecuador coach.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 29, 2015, 10:00:12 PM
Round of 16

Costa Rica halt free-scoring France to advance
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Costa Rica are into the quarter-finals of the 2015 FIFA U-17 World Cup after a penalty shoot-out win over France in Puerto Montt.

The Central Americans won 5-3 on penalties to reach the quarter-finals for the first time in ten years, where they will now face Belgium.

France had been free-scoring in the group stage but they found Costa Rica to be tough to break down, despite dominating large chunks of the contest.

All the goalmouth action of the first half was at the Costa Rican end with Reine Adelaide notably firing over the crossbar early on.

Jean Ruiz fired on target from distance, needing a strong intervention from Costa Rica goalkeeper Alejandro Barrientos. Next it was the turn of Odsonne Edouard to fire over the bar when presented with a good sight of goal.

Costa Rica improved their performance in the second half and they become more dangerous in attack, while France lacked the same rhythm they had in the first half

Roberto Cordoba produced Costa Rica’s first real threat to the France goal soon after the break but goalkeeper Luca Zidane was equal to the task.

Cordoba then teed up Andy Rees but the striker’s header came back off the bar in what proved the closest opportunity of the match.

France captain Timothe Cognat was the unfortunate victim in the shoot-out, where his lone miss proved enough for Costa Rica to advance.

Match Highlights, France v Croatia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6in42r1634)

Quotes

"We created many chances today but didn’t score any goal throughout the 90 minutes. Costa Rica played an organised defence and made things tough on us, especially in the second half. We missed the finishing touch as we did in the previous games. We were expecting to win, but Costa Rica played a fighting spirit and they was lucky in the end. Jean-Claude Giuntini, France coach

“We are happy today for this great victory, the game was tough and France has good players. We've made them run a lot. I think that luck was our ally in the penalty shoot-out. The Belgium match will also be difficult but we are confident of ourselves and we will provide the same performance.”
Marcelo Herrera, Costa Rica coach
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on October 29, 2015, 10:20:12 PM
This penalty experience was quite a different experience for Zidane, from the one he experienced during the U17 Euros.

https://www.youtube.com/v/dqaLwLiIikQ
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: Deeks on November 01, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
Just saw a boss game between Mali and Croatia. Excellent, excellent. Both teams looked like Barca junior. Koita, Traore, for Mali and Loveren for Croatia were outstanding.Loveren is the younger brother of the Liverpool player. Game ended 1-0 in Mali's favor.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 01, 2015, 11:25:33 PM
Quarter-finals

Golden Eaglets soar into semi
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Holders Nigeria cruised into the FIFA U-17 World Cup semi-finals after stunning Brazil with three goals in five first half minutes in a 3-0 victory. Victor Osimhen, with his eighth goal in five games, Kingsley Michael and Udochukwu Anumudu battered Brazil, and the Golden Eaglets played the rest of the game out at a canter to reach the final four.

Brazil had looked bright in the opening stages, either finding Akpan Udoh in fine form in the Nigerian net or hitting their opportunities off target, with Rogerio and Evander two of the culprits. A Seleção were made to rue those missed opportunities when the lethal Osimhen extended his lead at the top of the goalscoring charts. John Lazarus crossed from the Nigerian right and the Nigerian No9 headed in, via a deflection off Eder Militao.

Moments later, Nigeria doubled their lead, Osimhen instrumental once more. The forward hooked a bouncing ball back over his shoulder, with Michael following in. The ball bounced up off the turf and past Juliano. The Brazilian No1 was deceived by another bounce just four minutes later, as Anumudu hit a left-footed drive from distance. The effort skipped off the turf, and past the stopper, who was visibly unhappy at not keeping the shot out.

The second period saw few clear-cut opportunities, with Funsho Bamgboye and Evander going closest for either side but, in truth, it was a mere procession for the holders to take a step closer to retaining their title. They will head to Concepcion for Thursday's semi-final against the winner of tomorrow's quarter-final between Ecuador and Mexico.

Quotes

"We knew it was important for us to make the most of our opportunities, especially if we dominated the game at some point, but we didn't. Their goals were scored in only five minutes because of specific chances, not because we were not balanced. We would like to have put Nigeria behind on the scoreboard, but we failed to score. For these kids, everything that has happened here is part of their learning process," Carlos Amadeu, Brazil coach.

"Is not like we scored three goals and that was it. Before that our side had 15 very good minutes, when they moved the ball around as we knew they could. You have to give credit to my kids, who were tranquil and kept their cool to deal with the Brazil pressure and then scored at the right time. For them, to beat Brazil is a big confidence boost. We still have a long way to the title, though," Emmanuel Amuneke, Nigeria coach.

Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298405/index.html)
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 02, 2015, 03:40:56 AM
Quarter-finals

Miserly Malians make history
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Mali reached their first FIFA U-17 World Cup semi-final and continued their impressive defensive record in Chile with a 1-0 win over Croatia. Sekou Koita's first half effort was enough to see off the European side and send Dario Basic's side home.

The opening half saw the African side take the initiative, with Amadou Haidara going close from distance first from open play and then from a set-piece, but Croatian stopper Adrian Semper equal to both efforts.

Koita showed Haidara how to finish clinically. Sidiki Maiga expertly hooked a long crossfield ball back behind him as he sprinted towards the Croatian touchline. The 15-year-old forward followed up and hit a low shot left-footed into the bottom right-hand corner across Semper.

The second half was bereft of clear-cut chances, with the Croatians failing to carve out any meaningful opportunities. The Malian defence, marshalled well by Abdoul Dante despite his early booking ruling him out of the historic semi-final, dealt with every attack the Europeans threw at them. Semper was called upon in the Croatian goal a handful of times, with Boubacar Traore kept out courtesy of a smart save, while Aly Malle and Koita were foiled by the Dinamo Zagreb stopper.

Mali held firm, and will head to La Serena for a final four showdown against either Belgium or Costa Rica, who face off in Concepcion tomorrow.

Quotes

“In the first half we did not play as we should have played against a team like Mali. In the second half we could play our style of quick passes, but we didn’t show the level of the previous matches and we did not deserve to win today. We have made big strides. We are a small country but could reach this stage and had a good tournament. Anyway, I’m really sad, because I sincerely think that we lost a big opportunity. My feeling here, especially after beating Nigeria and Germany was that we could go the whole way. Maybe not winning, but staying until the end," Dario Basic, Croatia coach.

“It was a great match, Croatia are a really tough side and very good tactically, so my players finished the match exhausted. Thanks to the goal we scored we could win and go to the semi-final. We have reached the semi-final, that’s not an opportunity given to everyone and this is the result of our hard work during the last few years. Our first goal was reaching the semi-finals but the main objective is winning the tournament. People in Mali are very passionate about football we need to win the trophy for them,"Baye Ba, Mali coach

Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298380/index.html)
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 03, 2015, 12:52:16 PM
Quarter-finals

Mexico setup Nigeria showdown
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Mexico set up a mouthwatering FIFA U-17 World Cup semi-final showdown against Nigeria after eliminating Ecuador with a 2-0 win in Coquimbo. Claudio Zamudio's first half strike and Bryan Salazar's penalty after the break saw off the South Americans, who fail to go one better than their only previous quarter-final appearance at this level in 1995.

The Mexicans were swift out of the blocks, controlling the ball well and attacking Ecuador dangerously in the opening moments. Most notably Eduardo Aguirre came within inches of opening the scoring within the first minute after a cross-shot flashed wide.

Ecuador began to grow in stature, though with the electric Jhon Pereira breaking free of the Mexican defence before hitting a toe-punt shot which Abraham Romero got down to turn round the post.

It was the two-time U-17 World Cup champions who took the lead though, with Zamudio slotting home from inside the penalty area after Salazar nodded down a deep free-kick.

El Tri doubled their advantage just after the interval when No20 fouled No20 in the Ecuadorian penalty area. Jean Pena brought down Mexican substitute Jose Gurrola, and Salazar stepped up to slot past Jose Cevallos in the Ecuador goal.

The remainder of the game saw Mexico retain the ball for long spells, rarely troubled by the Ecuador attack. Mario Arteaga's side head to Concepcion for their final four clash against the four-time champions - a truly remarkable game in prospect.

Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298412/index.html)


Quotes

"Our goal here was to reach the final, but luck was not on our side. We had chances but we made mistakes on the finish. We also made mistakes on Mexico's goals, which were scored after fouls we made. We learned a lot today, we're the only ones to blame."
Jose Rodriguez, Ecuador coach.

"The match went as we expected, very tight between two teams with the same level. But my team has managed to stay very calm and very well composed this game with impeccable behavior. My players were good tactically, physically and mentally. Nigeria is a very good team, and we will prepare ourselves better to face their excellent attack."
Mario Arteaga, Mexico coach
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 03, 2015, 12:58:54 PM
Belgium battle their way into history books
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Belgium reached their first FIFA U-17 World Cup semi-final after a thrilling 1-0 victory against Costa Rica in Concepcion. Dante Rigo's stunning first half free-kick saw off the Central Americans, and set up a last four clash with Mali in La Serena on Thursday.

The European side were first on the attack. A corner whipped in from the Belgian left saw Daniel Villegas attempt to clear but the defender could only deflect onto the crossbar. Bob Broeways' side then went close once more, with a long ball from the Belgian right finding Jorn Vancamp in behind the Costa Rican defence. Alejandro Barrientos thought about coming to claim, but retreated and the goalkeeper was lucky that Villegas was there to save his blushes by stopping the ball from crossing the line.

Costa Rica responded in kind, forcing Jens Teunckens into a stunning double save. Ian Smith overlapped down the Costa Rican right and crossed to find his captain Luis Hernandez arriving at the back post. His volleyed effort was stopped by Teunckens, who also saved the No6's follow up. Martinez then hit a follow up of his own which was blocked by Wout Faes and collected by Teunckens.

The Red Devils then went ahead thanks to a moment of technical excellence from Rigo. Steve Ryckaert stepped over the ball and the No8 curled an unstoppable set-piece past the despairing Barrientos.

Belgium then took control of the remainder of the opening period, despite Costa Rica looking dangerous on the counter attack.

After the break, Broeways introduced Dante Vanzeir, who had an immediate impact. He received a fantastic throw by Teunckens after the goalkeeper collected a Costa Rica corner and outpaced the Ticos defence, sprinting more than half the length of the pitch to find himself in the penalty area. With team-mates waiting in the middle, his cross was cleared behind for a corner.

Costa Rica went closest to levelling late on. A long ball was deflected into the box and Teunckens could only palm the looping ball onto the post which deflected back into the penalty area. Pablo Arboine fired wide with the goal gaping. Teunckens then showed remarkable reflexes to claw out a deflected Arboine free-kick.

Belgium meet Mali in the semi-final, with both sides renewing their rivalry from Group D and each hoping to continue writing new chapters of footballing history with an inaugural U-17 World Cup final berth the prize on offer.

Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298404/index.html)

Quotes

“It was a tough match against a strong opponent but this is normal in a World Cup quarter-final. The free-kick of Dante Rigo was fantastic. He had bad luck in the previous matches where he hit the post or the goalkeeper saved the ball. After our lead it was a different game. Both teams had some chances, especially us with counter attacks. Furthermore we defended quite well. We are not a favourite for the title. Nigeria and Mexico are as they are very often in the semi-final at this age. Mali have impressed and are also a favourite. It is only our second U-17 World Cup. It is a game between David and Goliath. Our first match was against Mali. It was 0-0 after 90 minutes, but Mali created many chances. We will prepare as well as possible and we will try to find solutions to stop Mali.”
Bob Browaeys, Belgium coach

“I’m sad and proud. The players gave their best. Congratulations to Belgium, and thanks to Chile and the people here in Conception for their hospitality. It is a process where we go through. This is the beginning and not the end. I believe in this team.”
Marcelo Herrera, Costa Rica coach
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 05, 2015, 05:44:58 PM
If you are not viewing Mexico v Nigeria, find a TV or link quick!!!
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 05, 2015, 06:20:43 PM
2-2 now. Watch the highlight reel for the Mexican equalizer! 37 minutes left in regulation.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 05, 2015, 06:26:41 PM
3-2 NGR. 21' left in reg.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 05, 2015, 06:42:50 PM
4-2. Osimhen penalty. He came into the WC valued at under 250K euros. Watch de ride.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 06, 2015, 11:32:52 AM
Mali march on to Vina Del Mar
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Mali 3-1 Belgium

Mali reached their first ever FIFA U-17 World Cup final courtesy of a resounding come-from-behind 3-1 victory against Belgium. The Europeans had taken the lead through Dante Rigo, but Boubacar Traore's swift response was followed by second half goals from Sidiki Maiga and Sekou Koita.

Belgium took the lead thanks to a sumptuous through ball by Jorn Vancamp. The No19 found space inbetween the Malian midfield and defence and lofted a pass with the outside of his right foot to the onrushing Rigo. The midfielder showed great composure to finish for his second goal in two games, and end Mali's run of over 300 minutes without conceding at Chile 2015.

The Malians struck back swiftly. Aly Malle matched Vancamp's assist with a delicious cross of his own with the outside of his left foot. The ball missed everyone but Traore followed in, lashing home from inside the penalty area.

The remainder of the first half saw the two sides exchange attacks, and it was clear for all to see that these teams knew each other inside out, after their meeting in their opening Group D fixture.

There was an element of fortune to the goal that gave the Africans' the advantage after the break. A long clearance pumped upfield by the Malian defence was misread by Teunckens, the bounce deceiving the Belgian 'keeper. Maiga nipped in to nod home with the Club Brugge stopper stranded.

The win was rubberstamped in the closing stages as Koita, the youngest player on either side, showed composure beyond his years. He received the ball in the Belgian penalty area on the right-hand side and slammed a finish across Teunckens into the far corner.

Mali's historic victory means they will face the victor of the second semi-final between Mexico and Nigeria on Sunday, with Belgium facing the defeated side in the play-off for third place earlier the same day in Vina Del Mar.

Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298383/index.html)

Quotes

"We faced a very good team that has tired us. We conceded a quick opening goal, and we had to react quickly. It was very hard tactically and we ran a lot to get the win. We had a bad start in this game, which does not happen often to my players despite their young age. For the final, I do not care if it's Mexico or Nigeria. I just want to face a team that we can beat," Baye Ba, Mali coach.

"I want to congratulate Mali for this victory. This is a very good team and I wish them all the best for the final. Belgium played a very good game and I am proud of my boys. We started the match well and the first half was balanced. What happened in the second half happens in football. I am very pleased with the progress of my players for this tournament," Bob Browaeys, Belgium coach.

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Post by: asylumseeker on November 06, 2015, 11:37:06 AM
Nigeria edge thriller to set up all-African final
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Mexico 2-4 Nigeria

Holders Nigeria have reached their second consecutive final thanks to a thrilling 4-2 victory against Mexico in Concepcion.

Mexico opened the scoring through Kevin Magana, with stunning efforts from Kelechi Nwakali and Orji Okwonkwo seeing the African side ahead. Diego Cortes's remarkable solo effort levelled matters, before Osinachi Ebere and Victor Osimhen's late record-equalling penalty saw the Golden Eaglets into an all-African final against Mali.

Mexico controlled the ball in the opening stages of the match, and took the lead early on. Kevin Lara beat his man on the Mexican right and delivered a teasing cross into the middle. Aguirre tried to control with his chest, but Magana took charge and fired home.

Emmanuel Amuneke's side began to grow into the game, with Kelechi Nwakali hitting a low drive from the edge of the Mexican penalty area with his venomous drive stinging the palms of Romero before the ball was cleared away.

The game see-sawed back Mexico's way, with a free-kick from the Mexican left headed goalwards by Jose Esquivel. The chance forced a superb point blank stop by Akpan Udoh, onto the crossbar and eventually cleared behind.

Nigeria rode their luck, with a couple of good Mexican opportunities and after riding the storm, managed to level things up thanks to the superb technique of their captain. Nwakali lined up a free-kick from around 25 yards, and curled a perfect effort into the bottom left-hand corner. Romero stood no chance.

Amuneke's charges sensed their opponents were on the back foot, and Okwonkwo took advantage, producing one of the moments of the tournament to see his side ahead. He cut inside from the left onto his right foot and thumped an effort in off the crossbar.

After the break, Mexico took time to reassert their rhythm after the shock of going behind. Cortes then stepped up to score what must be considered one of the best goals ever scored in the Estadio Ester Roa. He picked up the ball on the Mexican right just inside the Nigerian half and proceeded to dribble past five players, showing incredible close control before slotting calmly past Udoh.

Nigeria were undeterred by Cortes's golazo and struck back. Ebere found space on the Nigerian right just inside the Mexican penalty area after a long through ball. His right-footed effort was too strong for Romero, who got a hand to the strike but could not keep it out. 

John Lazarus was taken down in the Mexican penalty area, giving Osimhen the chance to score his ninth goal of Chile 2015 and go level at the top of the all-time U-17 World Cup goalscoring charts. He slotted home with ease, adding gloss to the Golden Eaglets victory.

Nigeria head to Vina Del Mar on Sunday for an all-African final against continental champions Mali while Mexico will face off against Belgium in the match for third place earlier the same day.

Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298391/index.html)

Quotes

"We know that it would be a tough game, the toughest game in this World Cup. Both teams had chances. Unfortunately we didn’t score, Nigeria did. This was the difference. But that is football. After our equaliser we thought we controlled the game but then Nigeria scored surprisingly. We wanted to reach the final but we failed. Of course the team is sad but we have to focus now on the third place match,"
Mario Arteaga, Mexico coach

"It was a difficult match in which both teams did their best. We give credit to Mexico because of their performance and its level of play. We are happy to be in the final and have the chance to defend the world title. Mali is a good team, Africa's champion. This is going to be an interesting challenge,"
Emmanuel Amuneke, Nigeria coach
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 07, 2015, 05:16:33 AM
4-2. Osimhen penalty. He came into the WC valued at under 250K euros. Watch de ride.

Historic spot-kick
By scoring the penalty that extended Nigeria’s lead over Mexico to 4-2, striker Victor Osimhen took his goal tally for the tournament to nine, equalling the joint all-time record held by Ivorian Souleymane Coulibaly (2011) and Frenchman Florent Sinama Pongolle (2001). Few would bet against the African goal machine adding another in the final.

(Sourced from FIFA).
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 07, 2015, 05:19:31 AM
Nigeria edge thriller to set up all-African final
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Mexico 2-4 Nigeria

Holders Nigeria have reached their second consecutive final thanks to a thrilling 4-2 victory against Mexico in Concepcion.

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Stunning stat
Eight out of eight! That is Nigeria’s remarkable new record in U-17 World Cup semi-finals following their victory over El Tri at Chile 2015. In doing so, they also brought their opponents’ run of three previous semi-final triumphs (in three attempts) to an abrupt halt.

(Sourced from FIFA).
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Post by: Mose on November 07, 2015, 07:25:13 AM
2-2 now. Watch the highlight reel for the Mexican equalizer! 37 minutes left in regulation.

Wow! Ah didn't realize Messi was playing fuh Mexico!  ;D
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Post by: Deeks on November 07, 2015, 10:20:56 AM
2-2 now. Watch the highlight reel for the Mexican equalizer! 37 minutes left in regulation.

Wow! Ah didn't realize Messi was playing fuh Mexico!  ;D

Absolutely. Could one for goal of the years. Brilliant.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 08, 2015, 01:57:34 PM
A very tentative 3rd place match is in progress. Good goalkeeping and a lack of conviction in executing on chances have made the difference.

Nil nil at the half. I expect things to ratchet up during the second half.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 08, 2015, 02:21:58 PM
@ 58' game is now 1-1.

Belgium drew first blood courtesy individual work on the flank, penetration from dribbling and the eventual goalscorer's intelligence to stay onside.

Minutes later Mexico was gifted a penalty following the BEL skipper's handling of the ball. Lots of maturity demonstrated by the penalty taker. Was very patient in executing.

Game on.
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Post by: asylumseeker on November 08, 2015, 02:35:39 PM
BEL skipper receives an arguably soft 2nd yellow. Mexico secures a free kick in a dangerous area. Kick amounts to nothing productive for Mexico. Off the counter, 10-man BEL scores. 2-1 @77'.

The drama has heightened as the emotion in the match builds.
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Post by: asylumseeker on November 08, 2015, 02:55:18 PM
Plenty worries in CONCACAF for years to come. Under pressure, Mexico absorb the pressure to equalize. 2-2.

BUT, as I post, BEL stretch the field to set up a 1v1 in the penalty area. 3-2 Brussels. Mexico will be returning to Benito Juarez International in tears.

If Mali v Nigeria tops this second half, all of Africa will be bawling.

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Post by: asylumseeker on November 08, 2015, 04:50:35 PM
Belgium leave it late to seal third
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Ten man Belgium finished third at the FIFA U-17 World Cup Chile 2015 after a hard-fought 3-2 victory against Mexico in Vina del Mar. Dennis Van Vaerenbergh opened the scoring for the Belgians before a Ricardo Marin penalty levelled matters moments later with Dante Vanzeir's wonderful chip cancelled out by Francisco Venegas's late leveller. Vanzeir then kept his cool in stoppage time to seal third place.

There were two clear-cut opportunities in the opening exchanges of the game, first with Belgium and then Mexico failing to capitalise. Vanzeir burst clear of the Mexican defence, after a slip by Francisco Venegas, but he sliced his effort wide. Claudio Zamudio then found himself in space behind the Belgian defence, but Gaetan Coucke, making his first appearance of the finals, saved well with his feet.

Van Vaerenbergh and the ever-dangerous Pablo Lopez each went close, but neither side could break the deadlock in a tight opening period.

The European side were first to strike, with Vanzeir once more showing his pace and trickery down the Belgian right wing. The Genk player picked up the ball close to the halfway line and took on a number of Mexican defenders before forcing his way into the penalty area. He found Van Vaerenbergh in space inside the six yard box and the tall No9 made no mistake, slotting home for his first of the tournament.

Mexico were given an opportunity to level moments later. Kevin Lara cut inside from the Mexican right and hit a left-footed effort at goal which was blocked by Wout Faes' hand. Substitute Marin stepped up and calmly sent Coucke the wrong way for his first goal of Chile 2015.

Captain Faes then found himself taking an early bath, after he picked up a second yellow following the booking received for the handball which led to the penalty. That did not hinder the Belgians, who almost immediately took the lead. Christophe Janssens broke out of defence and his pass inside found its way to Van Vaerenbergh. The forward spread the play to Vanzeir who settled himself with a good first touch before dinking a beautifully disguised chip over the onrushing Abraham Romero.

Venegas levelled matters late on after Marin poked his way following a scramble in the Belgian penalty area. But Vanzeir had the last word, sealing the win with another superb individual effort. The winger found himself one-on-one with Romero once more and kept his cool to slot home the dramatic winner and seal third place for the Red Devils. They will look back fondly on their time in Chile, the first time they have reached the knockout stages of the U-17 World Cup.

Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298409/index.html)

Quotes

"It was a hard and sometimes difficult match. We equalised twice but in the end we finished empty handed. Our goal in Chile was to win the championship and of course we're not happy with the fourth place but that is football. After the semi-final the disappointment was big but today we wanted to win the medal. Overall we played a great first round but then two matches robbed us the chance to be in the top three. For this team a long process ends today but they will play in the next age group. Thanks to the people who loved us here. Thanks for everything," Mario Arteaga, Mexico coach.

"Of course, you always need a bit of luck. We played a good first half, overall it was a nice match. Mexico is a great team. After the red card we had to change the tactics. Mexico pushed but I think they forgot my No7, Dante Vanzeir. He is very good at counter attacks. The red card was not good but in the end it helped us. Congratulations to my players. They are a fantastic group and I’m very proud. This is unique. At the 1986 World Cup and at the Olympics, Belgium reached the fourth place. And now it is for the first time a bronze medal. Thanks to Chile and the organisers. It is an amazing moment for us," Bob Browaeys, Belgium coach.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 08, 2015, 05:20:55 PM
Nigeria: two goals in three minutes. Both ... especially the first ... exemplars of textbook finishing. Both let a lil air out of Mali's tires after the Malians had shown much to suggest they would net first. 2-0 with about 25' left in regulation.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 08, 2015, 06:06:13 PM
One Chilean youth buss de security perimeter to beg the Nigerians for a jersey. Police corral de boy and the Nigerian baller decide to give away de jersey to defuse the situation. So he runs behind de security personnel that were dragging de boy away ... actually gives the boy de jersey, but then one of the Nigerian staffers runs after the player and tells him something: de player runs back to de yute and takes back de jersey.  :rotfl: Yuh think it easy?!

Once that first yute storm de field, plenty other yutes rush the Nigerians. Momentary chaos.

Look Sunil G. handing out trophy! Lately Sunil in everything!!!
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Post by: asylumseeker on November 08, 2015, 06:13:32 PM
Kudos to Chileans for embracing the final and turning out in numbers. More spectators in attendance here than at the U20 final.
Title: Re: FIFA U17 World Cup 2015
Post by: asylumseeker on November 08, 2015, 06:15:56 PM
4-2. Osimhen penalty. He came into the WC valued at under 250K euros. Watch de ride.

Historic spot-kick
By scoring the penalty that extended Nigeria’s lead over Mexico to 4-2, striker Victor Osimhen took his goal tally for the tournament to nine, equalling the joint all-time record held by Ivorian Souleymane Coulibaly (2011) and Frenchman Florent Sinama Pongolle (2001). Few would bet against the African goal machine adding another in the final.

(Sourced from FIFA).

Record broken! Osimhen x 10
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Post by: asylumseeker on November 09, 2015, 03:13:19 PM
Golden Eaglets retain their crown
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Nigeria became only the second side to retain the FIFA U-17 World Cup with a 2-0 win against Mali in Vina Del Mar. Victor Osimhen stole the show once again thanks to his record-breaking tenth goal of the tournament, with Funsho Bamgboye adding a second moments later. Samuel Diarra had saved an early Osinachi Ebere penalty as the Malians played their part in an entertaining finale to Chile 2015.

The penalty came as both sides were just finding their rhythm in the opening exchanges, Chato the culprit with a handball. Ebere saw his low effort saved brilliantly by Diarra, the No17's follow up header hit the bar before a third bite of the cherry was blocked by the Malian defence.

Both sides had chances in a tense opening period, with Golden Eaglets skipper Kelechi Nwakali hitting just wide and Boubacar Traore seeing his glancing header tipped over by Akpan Udoh.

The second half saw the game burst into life, with Emmanuel Amuneke's words clearly working their magic on the Nigerian youngsters. Osimhen shrugged off the challenge of Mamadou Fofana before hitting a wonderful dipping half volley towards goal, which Diarra spectacularly saved. Udochukwu Anumudu then smashed a thunderous effort at goal, which rebounded back off the crossbar and was cleared away.

Mali did not heed those warnings. Good approach play by substitute Chinedu Madueke saw him tee up Osimhen for his record-breaking goal, seeing him surpass the nine goals scored by Florent Sinama Pongolle in 2001 and Souleymane Coulibaly ten years later.

The holders doubled their advantage mere minutes later, with Bamgboye bursting down the Nigerian left before smashing a powerful effort at goal, Diarra standing little chance.

Despite a couple of late chances for Mali, from corner kicks, Nigeria retained possession for large spells and saw the game out to retain their crown. The jubilant scenes on the final whistle in Vina Del Mar will surely live long in the memories of these Nigerian heroes of the present, some of whom may just become the stars of the future.

Quotes

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"It was a tough match. Nigeria was well-placed and we often acted very unorganised. We didn’t pay attention twice and conceded two goals. It is how it is. One team wins because the other team makes mistakes. It is the first time Mali reached the final. If you believe that you can win a game, then you are sad when you lose. Nevertheless we can be very proud. Not many teams reach the second place. Our goal is to have a senior team who can win. We will continue our work. Everything is installed in our youth programs so that we will reach another final in the future.“ Baye Ba, Mali coach.

"It was a beautiful and entertaining match. I think the people in the stadium enjoyed it today. We knew that Mali are technically very strong, have great individual players and are very fast. We wanted to make no mistakes but we lost the ball many times in the midfield in the first half. But I don’t want to complain because they are all kids. We changed some things in the second half and made some substitutes. That brought us more safety in our game. We are thankful for everything. We wanted to bring the players to their dreams and we did it. Thanks for the support. We feel like we are at home. We have worked very hard for this success and we hope to continue. The players will go home now but their journey is not over yet. Personally I’m really happy. I have football in my blood, as a player and as a coach. This is what I want to pass to my players.“ Emmanuel Amuneke, Nigeria coach.

Match Highlights (http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/videos/highlights/match=300298386/index.html)

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