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Title: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 16, 2014, 05:26:42 AM
As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on the T&T vs Group B Winner 2014 Caribbean Cup game at the Montego Bay Sports Complex (20:00), Montego Bay on the 18th of November 2014 will be posted here, this way, we can maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.

For the internet users, you can follow the game at:

To be updated.

Possible Online Streams.

http://www.concacaf.com/video/cfu-caribbean-cup-november-18-2014

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9404595/Third-Final

Possible TV Station.

Digicel SportsMax 2; FLOW (channel 315) and DirecTV (channel 634).
CNC3

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2v_Eh5CcAABXAV.jpg)

Trinidad & Tobago Squad

Goalkeepers

Jan-Michael Williams (Central FC), Marvin Phillip (Point Fortin Civic Centre), Adrian Foncette (Police FC).

Defenders

Radanfah Abu Bakr (Kruoja Pakruojis), Justin Hoyte (Millwall), Joevin Jones (HJK Helsinki), Daneil Cyrus (Hà Nội T&T), Carlyle Mitchell (Vancouver Whitecaps), Aubrey David (FF Jaro), Yohance Marshall (Unattached).

Midfielders

Khaleem Hyland (Racing Genk), 
Andre Boucaud (Dagenham & Redbridge), Kevan George (Columbus Crew),
Ataullah Guerra (Central FC), Leston Paul (Central FC), Jamal Gay (Rovaniemen Palloseura), Hughtun Hector (Hà Nội T&T), Lester Peltier (Slovan Bratislava), Kevin Molino (Orlando City), Cordell Cato (San Jose Earthquakes).

Forwards

Kenwyne Jones (capt) (Cardiff City), Jonathan Glenn (Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja), Shahdon Winchester (FF Jaro).

Coach - Stephen Hart.

Group B Winner Squad

Goalkeepers

To be updated.

Defenders

To be updated.

Midfielders

To be updated.

Forwards

To be updated.

Coach - To be updated.


Updates to follow as we get more info, so keep checking back.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sam on November 16, 2014, 07:04:32 AM
Williams
David
Cyrus
Abu Bakr
Hoyte
Joevin
Boucaud
Molino
Hyland
Peltier
Jones


Paul for Hyland
Cato for Peltier
Glenn for Jones
Hector for Boucaud
Mitchell for Abu Bakr

Send these fellas on de first flight out of Jamaica.

Marshall (he needs a club bad or else he should not be on the T&T side)

Winchester (lazy especially off de ball)

Gay (I eh see to much of him, but ah know he is a fighter, so we go see)

George (he could play football, man cant even pass ah ball)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Banter Banton on November 16, 2014, 07:17:05 AM
Jan
J.Jones
Abu Bakr
Cyrus
Hoyte
Hector
Boucaud
Molino
Hyland
Peltier
K.Jones




More of a 4-2-3-1 with Boucaud and Hyland CM's...Hector LAM-Molino CAM-Peltier RAM- Kenwyne ST
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: g on November 16, 2014, 07:36:36 AM
I prefer to see Jovein in a more advanced position. He is a livewire going forward and is naturally left sided. Nice selection headache for the final.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: chelsealife on November 16, 2014, 08:18:02 AM
Jan
J.Jones
Abu Bakr
Cyrus
Hoyte
Hector
Boucaud
Molino
Hyland
Peltier
K.Jones




More of a 4-2-3-1 with Boucaud and Hyland CM's...Hector LAM-Molino CAM-Peltier RAM- Kenwyne ST
I think this might be the best team we have available during this tournament, little unsure about Abu but he cant do any worse than Mitchell looked last night  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Tallman on November 16, 2014, 08:19:42 AM
I prefer to see Jovein in a more advanced position. He is a livewire going forward and is naturally left sided. Nice selection headache for the final.

The thing is, he hardly ever does it for the national team even though he's been highly encouraged by the coach to do so.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sam on November 16, 2014, 08:23:20 AM
Ah like Hector, but you need a solid team.

Daivd left back and Joevin left wing.

We need to plug we midfield.

Midfield win games.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: AB.Trini on November 16, 2014, 09:11:01 AM
Anyone with thoughts observations comments about the play of Jonathan Glenn so far? Is he a fit on this team?  Have not read a lot of commentary about his play to date?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Banter Banton on November 16, 2014, 09:12:03 AM
Jan
J.Jones
Abu Bakr
Cyrus
Hoyte
Hector
Boucaud
Molino
Hyland
Peltier
K.Jones




More of a 4-2-3-1 with Boucaud and Hyland CM's...Hector LAM-Molino CAM-Peltier RAM- Kenwyne ST
I think this might be the best team we have available during this tournament, little unsure about Abu but he cant do any worse than Mitchell looked last night  :beermug:

Mitchell I think is suspended... yellow in the 1st game, yellow last night in the end.

I'm no fan of Cyrus or Abu Bakr but with Marshall looking unfit and short of confidence and the fact Hart took him off last night meaning no confidence in him from the staff surely Cyrus and Abu will start.

I'm hoping Boucaud and Hyland will offer them protection and passing outlets under pressure because those 2 need assistance. Hopefully they can both have good games and do a job.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 16, 2014, 09:22:52 AM
Anyone with thoughts observations comments about the play of Jonathan Glenn so far? Is he a fit on this team?  Have not read a lot of commentary about his play to date?

He looked ok in his second game yesterday.

His first however, he was really good...  :liar:

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 16, 2014, 09:24:42 AM
Mitchell I think is suspended... yellow in the 1st game, yellow last night in the end.

Doesn't cards get wiped of for the final game?

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: lefty on November 16, 2014, 09:46:03 AM
Ah like Hector, but you need a solid team.

Daivd left back and Joevin left wing.

We need to plug we midfield.

Midfield win games.



sam hector does his part defensively doh worry bout he.......he is also d better attackin option down the left
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: AB.Trini on November 16, 2014, 11:00:20 AM
So from a potential opposition: hear nah wha dem ah saying bout dem team and dem players - me feel dem a ungry fah de game on Tuesday

Jamaican Gleaner

Paul Clarke, Gleaner Writer

WESTERN BUREAU:

A berth in Tuesday's Caribbean Football Union's Caribbean Cup final will be at stake when hosts Jamaica square off against Haiti in the final Group B preliminary round match at the Montego Bay Sports Complex today. Kick off time is set for 8 p.m.

Haiti enter today's match with a distinct advantage. They lead the group on goal difference and need only a draw to reach Tuesday's final. Both countries are on four points from a win one, draw one record and have an identical plus three goal difference. Haiti, however, have scored five goals and conceded two while the Reggae Boyz have a four for, one against record. The winners of both groups, A and B, will meet in the final.

Both teams enter today's game on a high after 3-0 wins last Friday night.

Jamaica, in what was their most impressive recent display, blanked Antigua and Barbuda 3-0. Kemar Lawrence (30th), Darren Mattocks (43rd) and captain Rodolph Austin (88th) got the goals as the Reggae Boyz controlled the tempo of the game against the pacy Antiguans.

The outstanding player was Jobi McAnuff who constantly troubled the Antigua and Barbuda team with his driving runs through midfield. He will again have to be at his best today to outmanoeuvre the Haitians.

Coach Winfried Shäefer was impressed with the hunger, drive and guts the Boyz showed on Friday night.

"All the players fight for this country; they give their all for the country and it's good to see that
we needed to win and we got it," he said.

"But it gets tougher now. Haiti are a good team, strong players, and they know also how to win games, so we have to be at our top to beat them," added Shäefer.

It was clear from the Reggae Boyz's opening match that Shäefer was uncomfortable, but with a good win now under his belt, the coach appeared at ease, citing the Boyz's good performance.

"We have a job to do and we want another good win to get there. They (Haiti) have good players, so it will take a special performance from us to get the result we want," Shäefer said.

McAnuff has been one of the bright lights for the Jamaicans and has been praised by Shäefer for being the "eyes of the team".

VITAL PLAYERS

Winger Joel Grant, wily dribbler Dane Richards and forward Mattocks have also been vital to the Boyz's push for a place in the final match on Tuesday.

Kervens Belfort who got a double in Haiti's 3-0 win over Martinique will again be a key player. Belfort scored in the 53rd and 90th minutes in a match which Haiti were always the dominant team. Many observers here feel the Haitians are the best team on show in the tournament and the Reggae Boyz must lift their game considerably to get into Tuesday's final.

Belfort has three goals so far to his credit, while midfielder Dukens Nazon and defender Jean Sony Alcenat have been equally authoritative in their previous matches.

Antigua and Barbuda and Martinique will meet in the opening match of the double-header at 5:30 p.m. Both are on a point and a big win could see one of the two edging out either Jamaica or Haiti for a top four spot.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 16, 2014, 11:09:51 AM
^^ Haitian coach and players probably have the same mindset. But you will expect any coach to say the same or something similar at this point in the competition.

Worry about our players mindset (especially our defenders) at this point in the tournament.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: AB.Trini on November 16, 2014, 12:04:30 PM
Exactly the point- after listening to our coach in the post game, I wonder how it is that players ( especially two with club contracts) could not play with more drive and urgency?

BTW- we have a boss coach in Hart- TTFA ought to be doing everything possible to support this coach- then yuh know how Trini like " free thing"

Lawd we need a midfielder like the Dutch Robben- that player is a workhorse
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 16, 2014, 07:37:51 PM
Watching the JA vs Haiti game right now I will say to T&T players "Expect a very physical game from either team"

I remember the Jamaican commentator saying in the TT vs Cuba game the Jamaican teams in the past used to 'rough up'  the T&T players to take the Trinis off their game and this was a tactic they used.

The young T&T players must expect this type of battle and not be surprised with the physicality of the game.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Group B Winner Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Peong on November 16, 2014, 08:53:48 PM
So Jamaica it is.  Should be a good final.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: de_redman on November 16, 2014, 09:01:18 PM
T&T vs Jamaica!
The way it is suppose to be!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Socapro on November 16, 2014, 09:46:30 PM
Jamaica 2 - 0 Haiti Full time;

Jamaica basically had this game wrapped up after scoring 2 goals in the 1st 20 minutes.
Jamaica played a very defensive 2nd half clearly with the intention of not conceding any goals in the 2nd half which worked tactically for them. The Jamaican goal keeper was the hero of the 2nd half when he saved a penalty just 5 minutes from the end of the game to stop Haiti from having any hope of getting back into the game to salvage a draw.

The Final on Tuesday between T&T and Jamaica should make for a good contest but I expect T&T to win that game if we play our "A" game so its Reggae vs Soca for the Caribbean Cup title this Tuesday with Kompa vs Rumba featuring Haiti vs Cuba in the 3rd place play-off game that precedes the final.
All 4 teams T&T, JA, Haiti and Cuba have also qualified for the Gold Cup tournament next year.

PS: T&T beat Jamaica last year around this time in Jamaica so if we bring our "A" game on Tuesday then I see no reason why we won't do it again and keep the annual tradition going.  ;)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: AB.Trini on November 17, 2014, 06:50:20 AM
TNT has met formidable opponents in the past- Jamaica is no Argentina!!!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Trinidad Sports Reality on November 17, 2014, 07:48:27 AM
I dont know if yall notice but even if we lose we will be in the Copa America cuz Jamaica has already been invited as a Guest Team for that competition
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Trinidad Sports Reality on November 17, 2014, 07:49:35 AM
The were invited in place of Japan
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Trinidad Sports Reality on November 17, 2014, 07:54:22 AM
sorry my bad its the 2015 edition they have been invited to
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: AB.Trini on November 17, 2014, 07:56:47 AM
I was wondering the same - so it may be good thing that we are playing Jamaica in the final.


representative teams at both the 2015 Gold Cup and the 2015 Copa América simultaneously. Mexico and Jamaica were invited to the South American competition as guests by CONMEBOL.

source: wikkipedia

If Jamaica is already invited, does it mean we could still be given an opportunity to  be there as well in the unlikely event ...... I eh go say it but you know.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 17, 2014, 07:59:16 AM
... 2015 and 2016 ... separate events. We need to win.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Socapro on November 17, 2014, 08:43:23 AM
I sincerely hope that team manager William Wallace will be furnished by our Ministry of Sports with both the coach's and players outstanding payments so he can deliver it to them tomorrow before the Caribbean Cup Final against Jamaica as this can be an extra incentive to our team to put in an "A" class performance and so win the 2014 Caribbean Cup.

Quote
And, in the period between the executive committee’s letter on October 22 and Tim Kee’s response, the “Soca Warriors” had been temporarily barred from their team camp at the Carlton Savannah hotel for non-payment. While the national players threatened to boycott the 2014 Caribbean Cup finals unless they received assurances regarding outstanding payments.

At present, the Warriors hope that outstanding money will be relayed to the squad via manager William Wallace on Tuesday November 18, which is the day of the Caribbean Cup final. The Trinidad and Tobago team, which faces host side Jamaica in the final, is bidding to lift the regional crown for the first time in 13 years.

If our team is not sorted before the game I believe this can have a negative impact on our performance in the Final and we don't want any negative issues bothering our team in the back of their minds before this crucial game.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 17, 2014, 08:50:09 AM
TNT has met formidable opponents in the past- Jamaica is no Argentina!!!!!


I believe the Soca Warriors will win once we stay composed and stick to our game. Some of the players on the team are the same players who beat Jamaica last year in Jamaica so its just a matter of doing it again but this time with more caution and better execution because more is at stake. I am expecting Molino and Kenwyne to show why they are the best players on the field
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Majestic on November 17, 2014, 11:54:54 AM
JA is very strong dong their left side...I wonderin if Corn Curls will have enuff to go both ways, switchin him and Hector might be helpful.

TT 3 - JA 1
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: de_redman on November 17, 2014, 11:55:07 AM
While spying on the 'other' forum I've realized that the Jamaican are preoccupied with stopping Molino and Jones!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: sjahrain on November 17, 2014, 12:48:19 PM
Hope Gurera start,once they see him,I am positive they will remember he hurt thier feelings on the Jamacia leg of the home and away ,we played against them recently
Go Warriors
T@T 2. Ja 0
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 17, 2014, 02:22:57 PM
Looking ahead to the Trinidad and Tobago vs Jamaica Caribbean Cup Final


https://www.youtube.com/v/DEq9ZdEKifc&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug
Title: So Reggae Boyz Forum Members calling T&T an EEdiot (Idiot) Team...
Post by: Controversial on November 17, 2014, 03:31:17 PM
Jones and crew should give them a minimum of 2-0 in yard...  :beermug:

Let the world know who are the Kings of Caribbean Football...
Title: Re: So Reggae Boyz Forum Members calling T&T an EEdiot (Idiot) Team...
Post by: Sando prince on November 17, 2014, 03:39:10 PM
You really make a thread for this dan?

You helping them bring traffic to their site?

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2014, 03:40:44 PM
went on the TRB site and saw that they have no respect for us....... as usual.  hope we poison them for their over confidence.  our central defenders have me a bit uneasy and i hope they come with their A game manana.
Title: Re: So Reggae Boyz Forum Members calling T&T an EEdiot (Idiot) Team...
Post by: Controversial on November 17, 2014, 03:42:40 PM
You really make a thread for this dan?

You helping them bring traffic to their site?



motivation  ;D
Title: Re: So Reggae Boyz Forum Members calling T&T an EEdiot (Idiot) Team...
Post by: de_redman on November 17, 2014, 03:50:24 PM
It was one poster that said that... And was admonished by the other forumites.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: reggae-fan on November 17, 2014, 03:50:46 PM
went on the TRB site and saw that they have no respect for us....... as usual.  hope we poison them for their over confidence.  our central defenders have me a bit uneasy and i hope they come with their A game manana.

Do you think Brazilian fans show love to Argentinians when they face off in a football final?  This is the Caribbean's version of the Super Classico.

Its not in our nature to show fear of the opponents. Sports or otherwise.

I would expect T&T fans to be equally as confident as the Jamaicans.
Title: Re: So Reggae Boyz Forum Members calling T&T an EEdiot (Idiot) Team...
Post by: socalion on November 17, 2014, 03:50:49 PM
Saw that today also ....... leh dem talk  !!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 17, 2014, 03:53:05 PM
Looking ahead to the Trinidad and Tobago vs Jamaica Caribbean Cup Final


https://www.youtube.com/v/DEq9ZdEKifc&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug

BTW this video was poorly edited. The sound is drowning out Molino voice. I can barely hear what he is saying..

Still give thanks for the video but I had to mention this  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2014, 04:09:35 PM
ok mr reggaefan what ever you say. just remember those who take their opponents lightly often times fall in their snare. jamaica is a very solid defensive team and extremely unpredictable so unlike that rude fellow "lion paw" who said we were an eediat team, i on the other hand would not underestimate my opponent but acknowledge their strengths instead of their weakness and give them full respect.
Title: Re: So Reggae Boyz Forum Members calling T&T an EEdiot (Idiot) Team...
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2014, 04:16:53 PM
wow that was quick. i only just spoke of this a minute ago and here's the conformation. hope mitchell and who ever is along side him comes with their A game. would hate to see their predictions come through because of sloppy defending. i can't stand the boastfulness of those jkans and would love nothing better than to silence them in a humiliating fashion in front of their home fans.
Title: Re: So Reggae Boyz Forum Members calling T&T an EEdiot (Idiot) Team...
Post by: soccerman on November 17, 2014, 04:25:41 PM
Bulletin board material....and I could care less what they think on their site
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Orient Trini on November 17, 2014, 04:45:21 PM
Looking ahead to the Trinidad and Tobago vs Jamaica Caribbean Cup Final


https://www.youtube.com/v/DEq9ZdEKifc&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug

BTW this video was poorly edited. The sound is drowning out Molino voice. I can barely hear what he is saying..

Still give thanks for the video but I had to mention this  :beermug:

Oh man I thought it was just me !
Who does the media work for the TTFA ? In my opinion he/she is quite poor with the content(or lack thereof) I have seen.
I'm trying to hear the young man speak and it's drowned out by over-dramatic music !!

Title: Re: So Reggae Boyz Forum Members calling T&T an EEdiot (Idiot) Team...
Post by: Banter Banton on November 17, 2014, 05:01:13 PM
you didn't pick up a virus going on that site ?

Title: Re: So Reggae Boyz Forum Members calling T&T an EEdiot (Idiot) Team...
Post by: Flex on November 17, 2014, 05:10:31 PM
Mitchell is suspended.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: mukumsplau on November 17, 2014, 05:15:38 PM
now i know beggars cant be choosers but i dont think anything is wrong in fans asking for a bit more professional videographing of the team
Title: Re: So Reggae Boyz Forum Members calling T&T an EEdiot (Idiot) Team...
Post by: Deeks on November 17, 2014, 06:24:19 PM
Man, Trini could take basket oui. Someone mentioned that you will find the most idiots on internet forum. That being said. Mental prep. is the key. As long as our guys are ready, the CUP is OURS.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: najee on November 17, 2014, 07:06:04 PM
went on the TRB site and saw that they have no respect for us....... as usual.  hope we poison them for their over confidence.  our central defenders have me a bit uneasy and i hope they come with their A game manana.


PULL STONE....TRB site what it mean
Title: Re: So Reggae Boyz Forum Members calling T&T an EEdiot (Idiot) Team...
Post by: najee on November 17, 2014, 07:10:10 PM
Socawarrior let the playing on the field do the talking.....nuff said
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Socapro on November 17, 2014, 07:16:00 PM
went on the TRB site and saw that they have no respect for us....... as usual.  hope we poison them for their over confidence.  our central defenders have me a bit uneasy and i hope they come with their A game manana.


PULL STONE....TRB site what it mean
TheReggaeBoyz website.
Title: Re: So Reggae Boyz Forum Members calling T&T an EEdiot (Idiot) Team...
Post by: soccerman on November 17, 2014, 09:04:54 PM
Mitchell is suspended.



Multiple yellows?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: dreamer on November 17, 2014, 09:39:52 PM
Jan
Cyrus
Marshall
Mitchell
Hoyte
Hector
Hyland
Boucaud
Peltier
Molino
Jones



Mitchell on starting squad if exempt from 2 yellows in semifinal.
If Mitchell not allowed, then plug the stopper hole with Cyrus and put fast-paced Joevin to start on L back.
Subs from: Guerra, Joevin Jones, K George, Cato, Glenn, Radanfah.

Note: Yardies will be trying to attack and counterattack with their speedy wingers. Cyrus will handle them best on the left. Hoyte will handle his stories on the right. Therefore, our players will be able to handle the middle better and frustrate the Jakans, leaving room for Molino, Jones, Peltier, Hector  (and later Guerra) and the rest to work their offensive magic, instead of wasting energy covering for defensive mistakes or excessive defensive pressure. We have to attack with full force and silence them in front of "their 12th man"
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 17, 2014, 09:46:00 PM
Dreamer, yuh tink Yohance game on Sat was just an anomaly?  We have plenty depth at CB, but w/Bateau out, Mitchell suspended, just wondering how Harty will call it tmr
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: dreamer on November 17, 2014, 09:54:40 PM
Yes Barataria, probably an anomaly. Daiz how football is ...
Until that day, he was considered our boss new find defender who starred in Argentina against Messi.
Best of luck to the team. Let us all say our prayers for them.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 17, 2014, 10:34:37 PM

Jones wants it to count

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/Jones-wants-it-to-count-283004571.html (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/Jones-wants-it-to-count-283004571.html)

Kenwyne Joel Jones doesn’t hide the fact that he wants to lead Trinidad and Tobago to the 2014 Caribbean Cup title. At 30, Jones is one of the oldest players on the Trinidad and Tobago senior men’s football team. He is also the most accomplished.

Jones is the lone player in the squad to have had an extended run playing in the English Premier League and has played ten years in Britain, beginning in 2004 when transferred from W Connection.

Over a career span, Jones has already played for five British clubs, including EPL teams Sunderland, Stoke City and Wales-based Cardiff City, where he currently plays in the Championship Division.

His time abroad has largely prevented Jones playing in a Caribbean Cup as, previously, the Caribbean Cup fell outside FIFA international match dates, and clubs were not obligated to release players. Now playing his first Caribbean Cup, Jones wants it to count. “This is the first time I am able to play in the Caribbean Cup and I want to win it,’’ Jones declared. “Of course, I’m going to push myself first-off, and hope to lead by example.”

Jones has been leading by example, working much harder than usual and trying to push his teammates in training as well. Teams have been paying special attention to him. In the Cuba match on Sunday, the pair of central defenders Jeniel Molina and Yasmany Escalante hassled him at every turn.

Jones was pushed, pulled, kicked and tugged at every opportunity. So much so, he lost his cool at one point and wanted to fight. And he is shaping for the fight of his life in tonight’s final.

“For many of us, this could be the first and only Cup we win for Trinidad and Tobago,’’ Jones added. ‘’We have to keep focussed on it and we have to play as hard as we can to try and win that.’’
Title: Dream final: T&T, Jamaica go after Caribbean Cup
Post by: Socapro on November 17, 2014, 11:14:31 PM
Dream final
T&T, Jamaica go after Caribbean Cup
By Mark Fraser (T&T Express)
Story Created: Nov 17, 2014 at 11:00 PM ECT


The 2014 Caribbean Cup concludes tonight with a dream final between Trinidad and Tobago and hosts Jamaica before what is expected to be a packed Montego Bay Sports Complex here.

Trinidad and Tobago have won eight titles in the 18-year history of the Caribbean Cup, while Jamaican have won five. The final night begins at six o’clock with dethroned champions Cuba and Haiti meeting for third spot. The final takes place from nine o’clock.

Jamaica reached the final by topping Group B following a 2-0 victory Haiti on Sunday night. And the final gives Jamaica’s German coach Winfried Schäfer the opportunity to fulfill a boast he made last December.

Following back-to-back home-and-away defeats to the Soca Warriors, Schäfer said the Reggae Boyz would win when next they met. Jamaica will have a stronger team than a year ago this time. “I think we will have to play much better to play against Trinidad and Tobago. We know its going to be a derby game,” stated Jamaican midfielder Jevon Watson.

Watching Jamaica play Haiti were the T&T men’s national team. However, T&T head coach Stephen Hart is unconcerned about having to face the hosts, and just wants his team to play to its potential.

“Its a final. I don’t care who we play,” Hart said. “I don’t care who we play in the final. We are in the final and whoever comes up, you have to play them and you have to get the result.”

Hart has so far rotated his squad every match, giving all on his 23-man squad except third-string goalkeeper Adrian Foncette a run so far. But given a lacklustre performance against Cuba (0-0) last time out when he made eight changes, Hart hinted at fielding his best possible team tonight.

“I’m going to have to think about that,” Hart said following the draw against Cuba, when he benched top-scorer Kevin Molino, who has won Man-of-the-Match awards in two matches, Hughton Hector, Khaleem Hyland, Daneil Cyrus and Lester Peltier.

Hart’s main concern is an uncertain defence. “The line is working fine. It is the individual mistakes that are worrying,” Hart said.

Meanwhile, captain Kenwyne Jones expects an extra effort from his players tonight. “By just reaching the final we giving ourselves a chance to win it,” Jones said. “We are going to be confident. We going to go out there and push. We just going to prepare as we normally do, and go out there to win the game.”

And if the incentive of regaining Caribbean supremacy is not enough, Jones and his teammates will also be bearing in mind that victory tonight will also see them earning the right to represent the region at the 2016 Copa America Cenetenario, the tournament that will mark the 100th anniversary of the South American confederation’s premier tournament.

Here is link to watch 3rd place play-off and final live this evening:
CFU Caribbean Cup: November 18, 2014 on Livestream (http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9404595/Third-Final)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: davidephraim on November 17, 2014, 11:45:37 PM
                       Jan
     Hoyte  Cyrus  Bakr   Jones 
      Peltier   Boucaud   Guerra 
                  Hector
            Molino  J. Glenn   

 

Hector and Guerra convertible; Hyland for Hector 59"   KJ  for Glenn 63"  & a Defender on standby cause Abu might get carded! Go TnT!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Socapro on November 18, 2014, 12:16:59 AM
Jamaica, T&T showdown - Reggae vs Soca in Montego Bay
By Audley Boyd (Jamaica Gleaner)


REGIONAL powerhouses Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago will battle for the CFU Men's Caribbean Cup football championship title tonight at Montego Bay Stadium, St James, starting at 8 p.m.

Winning the title will secure a major landmark for either team, as they will claim a spot in the prestigious Centennial Cup America.

This first-time tournament - held to commemorate the centenary celebrations of the South American football association, CONMEBOL - will take place in the United States and has historical attachments.

It combines the CONCACAF Gold Cup and South American championship, Copa America. And the latter will be held outside the continent for the first time.

By qualifying for the CFU Men's Caribbean Cup final, both Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago had already knocked off one target: securing qualification for next year's CONCACAF Gold Cup.

Automatic advancement

That advance came automatically for the top-four teams in this eight-nation CFU Finals, including Haiti and last year's winners, Cuba, who will battle for third in this evening's curtain-raiser that is set to kick off at 5 p.m.

Those two have each won the title once. However, the teams lined up for the feature presentation are true Caribbean kings, having shared 13 of the 16 CFU titles.

Trinidad and Tobago hold a distinct advantage, with eight successes.

As all their titles were netted in the first 11 stagings - the last coming 13 years ago in 2001 - the Trinidadians have been sleeping giants. This also strengthens their desire for success.

"We came here with two objectives, one was the Gold Cup, the other was to get into the final and give ourselves the opportunity to win the Caribbean Cup," outlined Stephen Hart, coach of the Trinidad and Tobago team.

He added: "We are in the final and we need a result. Jamaica are always tough opposition to face and will be dangerous in any final."

Though they have cuddled the championship feel more recently, the Jamaicans are no less hungry for the title.

The tournament presented a path to redemption, as the entire football organisation, including the administrators, players and coaches, were under pressure. This is because the team lost match after match - under tough circumstances with long travel and practically no rest most of the times - and their FIFA ranking plummeted to 113 through the past year.

This is well below Trinidad and Tobago's 49, and that of several other teams in the tournament. Despite the disparity, Jamaicans consider their team superior to practically every one in the region; and to a degree, it made nothing short of winning the tournament enough for the locals.

"The tournament is not finished, we have one more match. Now we have to work to make preparation," noted Reggae Boyz head coach Winfried Schäfer.

Good character

Now the Reggae Boyz are at the doorstep, rising after the uncertain start of a 1-1 draw against Martinique, to record back-to-back wins against Antigua and Barbuda (3-0) and Haiti (2-0).

"The team showed good character," said Jamaica captain Rodolph Austin. "We started out with a draw and we came back and won two matches.

"We're going into the final with a positive thing going," he added. "After the first game, we came together and said we've to fight for everything, we've to fight to the last whistle ... we want to die for each other."

Trinidad and Tobago's Soca Warriors qualified for the final following wins in their first two games - 3-2 - over Curaçao and French Guiana, then tying goalless with Cuba in their last group contest.

The teams have expended a lot of energy getting to this stage, with matches every other day in an eight-day championship.

Having played their semi-final a day earlier, the Trinidadians have the advantage of one day to recover for this final battle. Both squads have talent, so Hart and Schäfer have numbers from which to choose.

Kevin Molino, who has been making a name for himself in the USA Leagues, emerged as the main player for the Soca Warriors with three goals in two games, while Kenwyne Jones, who netted a double in their opening win, has English Premier League experience, height and strength that also carry danger. Atualla Guerra and Lester Peltier have also been among their scorers at this tournament and pose a threat.

For the Reggae Boyz, feisty Darren Mattocks, who has scored a goal-a-game, has been leading the lines with a lot of energy and decent finishing. Schäfer has altered his front combination and has got more creativity and finishing through the addition of Simon Dawkins, with Joel McAnuff and Austin throwing some heavy punches from midfield.

A lot more talent

There is a lot more talent on the Jamaica team, but as shown throughout the championship, they can fluctuate between excellent and poor.

One area, however, where they have remained consistent is defence, which has been making a difference.

It is this very area in which Trinidad and Tobago have been found wanting, twice conceding a double and keeping a clean sheet against a Cuba team missing their shooting boots. This defect is not lost on Hart.

"I am expecting a lot more urgency on the defensive end of things, as I am a little disappointed in how the defence have been carrying out their job," the former Canada national coach said.

"The defence line is working fine; it's the individual mistakes that are worrying. All these things we will have to be better focused on, and if we don't do that, the final will be a tough assignment for us."


- The Gleaner's Western Bureau reporter Paul Clarke also contributed to this article.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 02:50:12 AM
T&T, Jamaica go after Caribbean Cup.
By Mark Fraser (Express).


Dream Final

The 2014 Caribbean Cup concludes tonight with a dream final between Trinidad and Tobago and hosts Jamaica before what is expected to be a packed Montego Bay Sports Complex here. '

Trinidad and Tobago have won eight titles in the 18-year history of the Caribbean Cup, while Jamaican have won five. The final night begins at six o’clock with dethroned champions Cuba and Haiti meeting for third spot. The final takes place from nine o’clock.

Jamaica reached the final by topping Group B following a 2-0 victory Haiti on Sunday night. And the final gives Jamaica’s German coach Winfried Schäfer the opportunity to fulfill a boast he made last December.
 
Following back-to-back home-and-away defeats to the Soca Warriors, Schäfer said the Reggae Boyz would win when next they met. Jamaica will have a stronger team than a year ago this time. “I think we will have to play much better to play against Trinidad and Tobago. We know its going to be a derby game,” stated Jamaican midfielder Jevon Watson.

Watching Jamaica play Haiti were the T&T men’s national team. However, T&T head coach Stephen Hart is unconcerned about having to face the hosts, and just wants his team to play to its potential.

“Its a final. I don’t care who we play,” Hart said. “I don’t care who we play in the final. We are in the final and whoever comes up, you have to play them and you have to get the result.”

Hart has so far rotated his squad every match, giving all on his 23-man squad except third-string goalkeeper Adrian Foncette a run so far. But given a lacklustre performance against Cuba (0-0) last time out when he made eight changes, Hart hinted at fielding his best possible team tonight.

“I’m going to have to think about that,” Hart said following the draw against Cuba, when he benched top-scorer Kevin Molino, who has won Man-of-the-Match awards in two matches, Hughtun Hector, Khaleem Hyland, Daneil Cyrus and Lester Peltier.

Hart’s main concern is an uncertain defence. “The line is working fine. It is the individual mistakes that are worrying,” Hart said.

Meanwhile, captain Kenwyne Jones expects an extra effort from his players tonight. “By just reaching the final we giving ourselves a chance to win it,” Jones said. “We are going to be confident. We going to go out there and push. We just going to prepare as we normally do, and go out there to win the game.”

And if the incentive of regaining Caribbean supremacy is not enough, Jones and his teammates will also be bearing in mind that victory tonight will also see them earning the right to represent the region at the 2016 Copa America Cenetenario, the tournament that will mark the 100th anniversary of the South American confederation’s premier tournament.

Warriors hunt ninth CFU title.
T&T Guardian Reports.


T&T will be seeking to add to its illustrious trophy cabinet for regional competitions today when the “Soca Warriors” meet host Jamaica in the final of the Caribbean Football Union (CFU) Caribbean Cup, from 9 pm (TT time).

The match will follow the tournament’s penultimate fixture, a third-place decider between Cuba and Haiti.

Jamaica reached the final with a 1-1 draw against Martinique and wins over Antigua/Barbuda (3-0) and Haiti (2-0) while T&T enjoyed unconvincing wins over Curacao (3-2), French Guiana (4-2) and a draw against dethroned champion, Cuba (0-0).

T&T’s draw against Cuba officially booked both teams spots at next year’s Concacaf Gold Cup, along with Jamaica and Group B runner-up, Haiti.

Today, Jamaica and T&T meet for the fourth time in 18 finals. Over three finals, Jamaica holds a 2-1 record over T&T. Most recently in 1998, Jamaica edged T&T 2-1 in the title match.

Today, joint leading scorer in this tournament, Kevin Molino will return to action after missing the draw with Cuba. Molino has three goals, as does Darren Mattocks who is expected to start for Jamaica.

Molino said yesterday he was feeling good. “I’d like to play every game but the coach had to make a decision because of the tight schedule. Now I’m focused and ready. It’s always a big game and a final is always huge. I wanted to meet Jamaica because the atmosphere with the home fans and then the rivalry is the kind of games I live for,” said the Orlando City striker.

Putting several shaky performances aside from both teams, the final promises to be a thrilling one as each will have nearly full strength squads comprising mostly overseas-based players. Unfortunately, T&T will be without Carlyle Mitchell who was suspended for an accumulation of yellow cards, but will have the advantage of an added day’s rest after completing group action on Saturday, a day before Jamaica.

T&T head coach Stephen Hart, took an optimistic but cautious approach to today’s showdown.

“Jamaica at home has been a fortress for years,” he said, adding, “...but it’s a one off game and we’re confident and it should prove to be quite an experience.”

“Overall I’m pleased with what I’ve seen. We have talked about our capacity to maintain concentration and focus regardless of what is happening around us. You will expect that sometimes from the stress of the game that the focus might waver but what we need is to put two solid halves of football together,” Hart said.

Rosters

T&T 

Goalkeepers: Jan-Michael Williams, Marvin Phillip, Adrian Foncette.

Defenders: Radanfah Abu Bakr, Justin Hoyte, Joevin Jones, Daneil Cyrus, Carlyle Mitchell, Aubrey David, Yohance Marshall.

Midfielders: Khaleem Hyland, Andre Boucaud, Kevan George, Ataullah Guerra, Leston Paul, Jamal Gay, Hughtun Hector

Forwards: Lester Peltier, Kenwyne Jones, Jonathan Glenn, Kevin Molino, Shahdon Winchester, Cordell Cato.

Jamaica

Goalkeepers: Dwayne Miller, Andre Blake, Ryan Thompson.

Defenders: Jermaine Taylor, Demar Phillips, Nicholay Finlayson, Alvas Powell, Kemar Lawrence, Nyron Nosworthy, Keithy Simpson.

Midfielders: Rodolph Austin, Je-Vaughn Watson, Jobi McAnuff, Romario Campbell, Hughan Gray, Simon Dawkins, Joel Grant.

Forwards: Dane Richards, Darren Mattocks, Michael Seaton, Deshorn Brown, Jamar Loza, Craig Foster.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 02:55:34 AM
Jones wants it to count
T&T Express Reports.


Kenwyne Joel Jones doesn’t hide the fact that he wants to lead Trinidad and Tobago to the 2014 Caribbean Cup title. At 30, Jones is one of the oldest players on the Trinidad and Tobago senior men’s football team. He is also the most accomplished.

Jones is the lone player in the squad to have had an extended run playing in the English Premier League and has played ten years in Britain, beginning in 2004 when transferred from W Connection.

Over a career span, Jones has already played for five British clubs, including EPL teams Sunderland, Stoke City and Wales-based Cardiff City, where he currently plays in the Championship Division.

His time abroad has largely prevented Jones playing in a Caribbean Cup as, previously, the Caribbean Cup fell outside FIFA international match dates, and clubs were not obligated to release players. Now playing his first Caribbean Cup, Jones wants it to count. “This is the first time I am able to play in the Caribbean Cup and I want to win it,’’ Jones declared. “Of course, I’m going to push myself first-off, and hope to lead by example.”

Jones has been leading by example, working much harder than usual and trying to push his teammates in training as well. Teams have been paying special attention to him. In the Cuba match on Sunday, the pair of central defenders Jeniel Molina and Yasmany Escalante hassled him at every turn.

Jones was pushed, pulled, kicked and tugged at every opportunity. So much so, he lost his cool at one point and wanted to fight. And he is shaping for the fight of his life in tonight’s final.

“For many of us, this could be the first and only Cup we win for Trinidad and Tobago,’’ Jones added. ‘’We have to keep focussed on it and we have to play as hard as we can to try and win that.’’

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Pur_Trini on November 18, 2014, 03:49:21 AM
BOYCOTT! Warriors blank CFU final over $10m wage dispute

T&T’s Soca Warriors last night decided to boycott tonight’s CFU Caribbean Football Cup final against Jamaica over the non-payment of salaries and arrears, amounting to an estimated $10 million, owed to them by the T&T Football Association (TTFA). Speaking to the T&T Guardian from Jamaica last night, skipper Kenwyn Jones said the decision may very well mean this will be the last time fans will see this team.

Read more here: http://www.guardian.co.tt/sport/2014-11-18/boycott-warriors-blank-cfu-final-over-10m-wage-dispute
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: trini_stallion on November 18, 2014, 04:53:23 AM
100% socawarriors no matter what!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: vb on November 18, 2014, 05:36:33 AM
100% socawarriors no matter what!

 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: dreamer on November 18, 2014, 06:06:59 AM
BraveHart, Jones, the rest of the team and Lasana,
Very proud of all of you for standing up to the liars, manipulators, exploiters, protectors and enforcers of an evil system.
As much as I would love seeing the Warriors play, if it means playin' on 'ungry belly, I say definitely no game, no website, no World Cup ... nutten!! Let T&T be embarrassed in the eyes of the world for the purpose of justice.
Justice over wine, jam and babbash anyday.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: injunchile on November 18, 2014, 06:31:00 AM
TIMKee is making the rounds this morning and said Game on. This is the President speaking, after all he must know and as a future Minister of sports If PNM wins), he will not be doing his credibility any good if he is a stranger to the truth. Well, If he is to be called the Honorable minister he has to start practicing now. I can see Jack and Horner smiling this morning with DGuardian front page,
 What a thing
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 06:49:57 AM
Game on.

The manager is en route to Jamaica with the players money. The TTFA and the minister of Finance sat down last night along with the minister of sports to come up with a plan top expedite the process so the players and staff will get their arrears before today's games.

The minister/s came through to bail out the FA.

So I was told.


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: FF on November 18, 2014, 06:58:39 AM
Is high time, the MOS mandates every sporting organization to recognize a players union.
Mandatory!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 07:29:10 AM
With all this extra developments going on, I really look forward to see how the team will play in the final
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Fensic on November 18, 2014, 08:45:49 AM
I watch that first 20 minutes of Jamaica versus Haiti and I say, 'yes the final orn'. It go be about so much more than just football. It go about every perceived slight Jamaicans think T&T do them. From unhappy Jamaican pilots flying for Caribbean Airlines, to the latest Jamaicans who get run back home from Piarco to dem who eh know nothing about T&T and surprised it does have murders in Triniland because Trinis supposed tuh spend their time plotting how to make Jamaicans' lives difficult. What yuh call dem wooden slats in granny windows again? Then of course you have the regular rivalry and push for bragging rights on anything we two countries touch. Yes what a final.

Then the foolishness of the TTFA and others raise it head. Dem people for real? How long did they expect players and staff would put up with the nonsense?

I say credit to the team for being able to bounce back and play tonight because I like all other fans in both Triniland and Jamaica want to see this dream final.

So, ah hope is only me who cyar believe de audacity of dem in misManagement.

Game orn.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 09:38:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/quAYT-56UQ4&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: dreamer on November 18, 2014, 09:41:54 AM
Is high time, the MOS mandates every sporting organization to recognize a players union.
Mandatory!

Football supporter, Sanch, Kelvin, Shaka, Wolfe & crew. Like they want you to respond and put een a li'l 2 cents ....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: vb on November 18, 2014, 10:22:18 AM
Completely support the timing of this strike.

History has shown that when ppl just walk away, it's business as usual with the TTFF. Had these fellas all quite before the tournament, a second String team would have been sent. And we might have spent a year or more like this.

Now the TTFA says the money was being arranged by the MOS and that's why the manager stayed back. Well guess what, the money was STILL late and they say FACK dat, no football. And they damn right. Is years now ppl waiting for they money. Nobody can say these fella selfish or are mercenaries.

Look at Anton, he walk away ages now, where he money? I guess it coming now. Unless the dollars is only for the ppl playing in J'ca.

Well done Warriors!!! :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: dreamer on November 18, 2014, 10:30:27 AM
Completely support the timing of this strike.

History has shown that when ppl just walk away, it's business as usual with the TTFF. Had these fellas all quite before the tournament, a second String team would have been sent. And we might have spent a year or more like this.

Now the TTFA says the money was being arranged by the MOS and that's why the manager stayed back. Well guess what, the money was STILL late and they say FACK dat, no football. And they damn right. Is years now ppl waiting for they money. Nobody can say these fella selfish or are mercenaries.

Look at Anton, he walk away ages now, where he money? I guess it coming now. Unless the dollars is only for the ppl playing in J'ca.

Well done Warriors!!! :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:

Borse insights.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bianconeri on November 18, 2014, 11:51:30 AM
Wonder if the manager fly first class to jamaica and paid for it with TTFA funds? lol!!!!

sad but probably true
hadda laugh
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: frico on November 18, 2014, 12:30:46 PM
Molino should dye his hair back to black because Jkan defenders will see him easy.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Thomo on November 18, 2014, 12:40:07 PM
MY 2 CENTS:
1) MoS (PP) vs TTFA (PNM). Any person that's running these associations should NEVER be politically affiliated. Why should the success and investment of sportsmen/women depend on who's in power?

2) I struggle to comprehend how the guys will play any sort of football tonight to get a win and I do hope Stephen Hart stays on after this...if his wages are guaranteed but I seriously doubt it
 
3) Even if Tim Kee goes now, the football will become more stagnant while everyone points fingers and ultimately find a solution. Things will get drastically worse before they get better because there'll be no constitution and no one at the helm in a hurry to lead.

3) If Kelvin Jack does throw his hat in the ring and eventually becomes President, I really do hope he succeeds but I do believe the job is tougher than he and we the supporters make it out to be.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 18, 2014, 12:49:02 PM
Molino should dye his hair back to black because Jkan defenders will see him easy.

lol..

Odds are currently  in Jamaica favour. Thing to remember .. Jamaica  has played their best squad for all the games of the tournament. Trinbago has had a heavy  rotation. Every player except Foncette  has seen some playing time. This will be the first time our strongest squad has played for the tournament. I hope we pull it off.


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 18, 2014, 01:26:36 PM
This game is becoming very political and cultural. The yardies on the observer  and the TRB site are using the soured relationship  between the two countries  as fuel to contest the final. They even accusing  the soca warriors of trying to destroy the cfu final by calling the boycott . I luv the competitive nature of the yardies. We will see what happens at 8 pm (that is Toronto time) 9 ECT.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: supporter on November 18, 2014, 01:27:11 PM
Back to supporting the team...Come on boys, bring home the trophy and Copa America invite!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 01:40:58 PM
not trying to invoke negative energy into the sphere of things but how are the players suppose to concentrate with all this bachannal going on? im afraid to say it but this certainly doesn't augur well for the team and our objective of winning this tournament. IMO this is a bad omen that could only bring harm.  it just don't look good at all, so sad.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socalion on November 18, 2014, 01:45:36 PM
Ok ppl on a lighter note i had a dream bout we team , but  ah eh tipping meh hand for dem yardies to snoop  until closer to de game ...... a certain  trini player is gonna have ah  big impact on de game later and  is not the one who  most maybe thinking about  . ah go  give meh 2 cents / frig it meh  100 dollar worth later..... but ja is going to have to deal wid a different team later  .
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Deeks on November 18, 2014, 01:46:22 PM
not trying to invoke negative energy into the sphere of things but how are the players suppose to concentrate with all this bachannal going on? im afraid to say it but this certainly doesn't augur well for the team and our objective of winning this tournament. IMO this is a bad omen that could only bring harm.  it just don't look good at all, so sad.

Dude, if you believe in bad omen, then you will falter. They will do well. Trust me.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 01:54:40 PM
deeks not to be a spoil sport but im the consummate optimist who is always valiant in the face of adversity but look how many things we have going against us ATM, we are away to a hostile crowd, we are up against one of the best teams in concacaf who mind you, has a very solid defense, our defenders have serious trouble concentrating for 90 mins, and now his obvious distraction. now how in the world could i not be concerned, it would be silly of me not to.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socalion on November 18, 2014, 02:00:16 PM
 :rotfl: Deeks yuh is a real trip oui ...   i mention dream....... yuh come with bad omen  ........ wtf yuh alright  king? lol this is game vibes
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 02:12:30 PM
socalion, he was referring to me im afraid. i was the one who mentioned bad omen.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socalion on November 18, 2014, 02:38:17 PM
Oh my badd  pullstones  but he should still lighten up ....... aye deeks  take it easy breds .... this is  game day vibes  going on here ...  ah cyar wait for later ...... ah eh lying  ah know dem yardies  want dis ting  bad bad bad , it go real eat dem  if dey doh win..!!!  ah know dey coming to run hard like ah bully  , dey go come wid dey nasty tactics  too   watch .....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Tallman on November 18, 2014, 02:39:22 PM
Quality play needed from Soca Warriors
By Alvin Corneal (T&T Guardian)


The feeling of playing in a final sporting event could hardly ever be described in just a few words, regardless of what sport it is and where it is played.

The grandiose plans to play in tonight’s final against the host Jamaica, should have started just before going to bed last night for the players. The claim of nervousness which so many players tend to feel is literally par for the course by all athletes on the day of a final.

A good night’s rest is even more satisfying if the players are well versed as to the duties to be fulfilled on the field. Follow-up with a hearty breakfast and a morning walk but factors should lead towards the preparation of mental commitment to the event ahead.

I have great belief in players ensuring that the type of studs on the boot are adequate to play in any type of weather.

Having witnessed matches played by both finalists, the picture as to how the game will go, is dependent upon an honest analyst of each player, each game,  and most importantly, strategy to combat the strengths of the opponent.

The Soca Warriors may not have provided the solid organizational formula, but this is sometimes clouded by the brilliance of certain members of this talented team.

Because they have conceded four goals in three matches should indicate that the high priority should be the defensive ploy.

At no time in this tournament did we have a well-coordinated back four line, hence the reason for the soft goals being scored. This is why I believe that the main player in that line should be Daneil Cyrus, for his ability to win the ball in the air or on the ground. He also possesses the speed necessary to reduce the effectiveness of Dane Richards, a feature which the Jamaicans have been banking heavily upon in the previous matches.

The need for solid and aggressive wing defence should make Aubrey David and Joevin Jones committed to these positions, with the emphasis upon defence, rather than making those attacking runs as their preferences.

Khaleem Hyland is the challenging defender located in front of the two central defenders, primarily as a ball winner and a multi task function of moving into attack when the occasion arises.

I would rather see Carlyle Mitchell alongside Cyrus in order to make our defence the most formidable.

We possess in midfield the stability of players whose ability to be part of the cohesive midfield possession game, where control of the game will be achieved.

I expect that Kevin Molino, Lester Peltier, Ataulla Guerra and Hughtun Hector have shown that they are quite capable of forming the “engine” room.

Our skipper Kenwyne Jones has done well enough to be a factor in front, especially when the byline ball will be the catalyst to producing our goals.

Jamaica looked good for 30 minutes of the game against Haiti and rewarded themselves with two goals.

But I see great vulnerability in their defence line, which one expects that the speed and skill of both Peltier and Molino will capitalize.

This game can provide the proof of the outstanding ability of Guerra whose all-round mastery of skill, speed and creativity can be the vehicle of success for the Warriors.

Finally, our main intention of our defenders must be to avoid giving away freekicks in and around the penalty area, neither must they fail to challenge positively for aerial crosses.

Respect for the Jamaicans could be shown, but confidence in ourselves should be reflected in our play.

The Jamaicans may be remembering the final 40 minutes of their encounter against Haiti where they defended for dare life and could easily have succumbed to the Haitian pressure.

The Warriors must remind them of that discomfort as early as the first ten minutes with the expectancy of getting an early goal.

We must fight to retain our dominance in Caribbean football.

Incidentally, for the records, let it be known that T&T won the CFU tournament in the year 1981 when the finals were played in Puerto Rico and the finalists were St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Guadeloupe, T&T and the host country.

T&T lost their away game to Jamaica 2-0 and returned home to beat the reggae boyz 4-0.  They went on to defeat Barbados at home and abroad, draw with Suriname in Paramaribo and beat them at Skinner Park 4-2 to reach the finals in Puerto Rico.

It is yours for the taking, Warriors, and you can make us all proud.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: kiffysmooth on November 18, 2014, 02:40:54 PM
Was d real time ah d game? dah 8pm time is in JA?  Somebody gih meh d real deal leh meh plan out meh styling for d night
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 18, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
somebody say bad oman?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 02:52:35 PM
I want to see a team effort but all the T&T players we rate as stars should show up tonight and show why dem stars. Molino, Hyland and Kenwyne should know they have to make an impact in this game
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Deeks on November 18, 2014, 02:55:04 PM
somebody say bad oman?

Nah, some people on the forum getting butterflies before the game. Which we will win!!!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 18, 2014, 02:58:44 PM
somebody say bad oman?

Nah, some people on the forum getting butterflies before the game. Which we will win!!!!!

auh hau is false alarm?!!  I now go to sing out Blaxxx Badness oui!

Lighten up fellas to much gloom and doom in here.  Win lose or draw only a blind person wouldn't see that we have been progressing under the stewardship of BraveHart.  Warriors till the very end!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Spursy on November 18, 2014, 03:01:50 PM
The butterflies are real though  :rotfl:

We either drinking  :beermug: later or sucking salt  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 03:02:47 PM
Listen nah fellas its been THIRTEEN years since we win this Championship. I want to see a win tonight. Our women are Caribbean Champions now its time for the men to follow suit  :cursing:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 03:12:03 PM
somebody say bad oman?

Nah, some people on the forum getting butterflies before the game. Which we will win!!!!!
so i see you are a fortune teller as well? just remember that jamaica has been able to go up to the azteca and pull off some amazing results, they have also managed to beat the american team at full strength.
now im not saying that we can't win this game but with the added baggage of salary disputes and not knowing if the coach would stay or leave (me being of the opinion that he's gone as soon as the last whistle is blown) has to weigh heavy on the minds of the players and in my opinion is a huge distraction.

trinidad football is always laden with foolishness especially when we are in a good position to accomplish anything substantial, it seems like we as a people are afraid of success and now not being any different from times gone by (strike squad over selling of tickets and long drive to the stadium on game day, post world cup disputes 2006, 1974 championship team, recently the womens team) now this on the eve of a very important game. i say it would be nothing short of a miracle if we beat jamaica in jamdown and the coach decides to stay on of which im in serious doubt.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 03:17:28 PM
somebody say bad oman?

Nah, some people on the forum getting butterflies before the game. Which we will win!!!!!
so i see you are a fortune teller as well? just remember that jamaica has been able to go up to the azteca and pull off some amazing results, they have also managed to beat the american team at full strength.
now im not saying that we can't win this game but with the added baggage of salary disputes and not knowing if the coach would stay or leave (me being of the opinion that he's gone as soon as the last whistle is blown) has to weigh heavy on the minds of the players and in my opinion is a huge distraction.

trinidad football is always laden with foolishness especially when we are in a good position to accomplish anything substantial, it seems like we as a people are afraid of success and now not being any different from times gone by (strike squad over selling of tickets and long drive to the stadium on game day, post world cup disputes 2006, 1974 championship team, recently the womens team) now this on the eve of a very important game. i say it would be nothing short of a miracle if we beat jamaica in jamdown and the coach decides to stay on of which im in serious doubt.

Bredda the team was facing these payment problems and took the field and made sure to get the results for the country in earlier games. I believe they will have the same mindset when taking the field in the final tonight
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socalion on November 18, 2014, 03:32:26 PM
I am very hopeful  that Coach Stephen Hart  stays on in his position   and so i  hereby make a plea  to the powers that be to ensure this  coach  who by all appearances are beloved  by all his players  be kept in order to continue his work unimpeded...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 03:33:31 PM
sando prince, i hope you are correct. was just listening to jonsey's interview and he didn't sound optimistic of the whole situation and i couldn't feel the optimism either. it would be a sin to see this team and the coaching staff not representing us anymore, of which i would rather lose this game than to lose the staff and the players simply because of the results and progress we have made under their watch. excuse me if i don't share your sentiment.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 03:36:22 PM
sando prince, i hope you are correct. was just listening to jonsey's interview and he didn't sound optimistic of the whole situation and i couldn't feel the optimism either. it would be a sin to see this team and the coaching staff not representing us anymore, of which i would rather lose this game than to lose the staff and the players simply because of the results and progress we have made under their watch. excuse me if i don't share your sentiment.

Coach seemed optimistic here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEq9ZdEKifc&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug

According to Jan the players are optimistic  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quAYT-56UQ4&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug

So you probably the only one who is not optimistic   :beermug:

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 03:38:59 PM


WARRIORS WILL SOLIDIFY HART JOB AS COACH WHEN THEY WIN TONIGHT. THERE IS MORE AT STAKE THAN JUST THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

After dey win ah go see the same ones boasting to the yardies about we know we was going to win.. look at allyuh now steupse  :D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 03:40:08 PM
sando prince, i hope you are correct. was just listening to jonsey's interview and he didn't sound optimistic of the whole situation and i couldn't feel the optimism either. it would be a sin to see this team and the coaching staff not representing us anymore, of which i would rather lose this game than to lose the staff and the players simply because of the results and progress we have made under their watch. excuse me if i don't share your sentiment.
amen to that, but have you listened to jonsey's interview? it sound like we might be having another impasse only this time it might be player imposed if the coach leaves. jones said 99% of the players would not represent the country without hart at the controls.

my bad. i was trying to respond to socalion's last post and made a mistake and responded to my own. i am new to this workings of the site so excuse my amateurish mistakes.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Socapro on November 18, 2014, 03:47:42 PM
sando prince, i hope you are correct. was just listening to jonsey's interview and he didn't sound optimistic of the whole situation and i couldn't feel the optimism either. it would be a sin to see this team and the coaching staff not representing us anymore, of which i would rather lose this game than to lose the staff and the players simply because of the results and progress we have made under their watch. excuse me if i don't share your sentiment.

Coach seemed optimistic here https://www.youtube.com/v/DEq9ZdEKifc

According to Jan the players are optimistic  https://www.youtube.com/v/quAYT-56UQ4

So you probably the only one who is not optimistic   :beermug:


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Controversial on November 18, 2014, 03:49:43 PM
sando prince, i hope you are correct. was just listening to jonsey's interview and he didn't sound optimistic of the whole situation and i couldn't feel the optimism either. it would be a sin to see this team and the coaching staff not representing us anymore, of which i would rather lose this game than to lose the staff and the players simply because of the results and progress we have made under their watch. excuse me if i don't share your sentiment.

Coach seemed optimistic here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEq9ZdEKifc&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug

According to Jan the players are optimistic  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quAYT-56UQ4&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug

So you probably the only one who is not optimistic   :beermug:



what do you expect, he's a pull stones  :D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 04:15:52 PM
sando prince, i hope you are correct. was just listening to jonsey's interview and he didn't sound optimistic of the whole situation and i couldn't feel the optimism either. it would be a sin to see this team and the coaching staff not representing us anymore, of which i would rather lose this game than to lose the staff and the players simply because of the results and progress we have made under their watch. excuse me if i don't share your sentiment.

Coach seemed optimistic here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEq9ZdEKifc&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug

According to Jan the players are optimistic  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quAYT-56UQ4&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug

So you probably the only one who is not optimistic   :beermug:



what do you expect, he's a pull stones  :D
i would be the first to admit to that hence the name. but it doesn't detract from the fact that the coach is severely unhappy and may leave soon after the final whistle. in a perfect world i obviously would like us to win but i will not sit here and pretend that this whole debacle doesn't augur well for the team spirit especially on the eve of a final, and also not knowing if their coach will stay or leave. that my friend of unnecessary pressure for everyone involved including us the supporters.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Socapro on November 18, 2014, 04:32:45 PM
sando prince, i hope you are correct. was just listening to jonsey's interview and he didn't sound optimistic of the whole situation and i couldn't feel the optimism either. it would be a sin to see this team and the coaching staff not representing us anymore, of which i would rather lose this game than to lose the staff and the players simply because of the results and progress we have made under their watch. excuse me if i don't share your sentiment.

Coach seemed optimistic here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEq9ZdEKifc&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug

According to Jan the players are optimistic  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quAYT-56UQ4&list=UUYjTv-40_nhaU5HVy5er3Ug

So you probably the only one who is not optimistic   :beermug:



what do you expect, he's a pull stones  :D
i would be the first to admit to that hence the name. but it doesn't detract from the fact that the coach is severely unhappy and may leave soon after the final whistle. in a perfect world i obviously would like us to win but i will not sit here and pretend that this whole debacle doesn't augur well for the team spirit especially on the eve of a final, and also not knowing if their coach will stay or leave. that my friend of unnecessary pressure for everyone involved including us the supporters.

Hart is not going to leave provided he has been paid his wages owing over the last 8 months and is guaranteed that he is not going to be placed in the same position in the future.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: frico on November 18, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
There's a possibility that this action by the TT team could give the Jkans a "false sense of security",and go out and drop their guard,you never know how they could re-act.I think Jamaica is due one bad match,and it could be tonite,every team had their bad game,we so far,haven't played to potential,it could be tonite.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Jumbie on November 18, 2014, 05:17:31 PM
wheys sah! real men know what Mr Hart going to and not do!

All the best to the team tonight!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 05:38:21 PM
I can already tell this team not going any Copa America. Kenwyn Jones already sounding like he quit.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socalion on November 18, 2014, 05:45:08 PM
Toonmili yuh like yuh want mash up de lime dis evening , oh  jeezanages  doh make it sound like dat nah ....:)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 05:48:18 PM
When was the last time a team had money bacchanal and it ended well.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socalion on November 18, 2014, 05:54:40 PM
Ok homies it getting close to game time i believe...... ah soon leggo meh dream mark  but fuss ah  going and  take ah drink  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Football supporter on November 18, 2014, 05:58:38 PM
The Caribbean Cup final between Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago will be broadcasted live at 8:00pm EST/9:00pm T&T time on CNC3. This is in addition to Digicel SportsMax 2; FLOW (channel 315) and DirecTV (channel 634), and online streams:
http://www.concacaf.com/video/cfu-caribbean-cup-november-18-2014
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9404595/Third-Final
http://cfufootball.org/index.php/caribbean-cup/9574-cfu-men-s-caribbean-cup-3rd-place-final-match-streaming
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: PATRIOT on November 18, 2014, 05:59:26 PM
GOOD LUCK WARRIORS!!! Let us win this!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: trini_stallion on November 18, 2014, 06:11:08 PM
Game starting 8? As in 7 cuz d clock turn back?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: 2cents on November 18, 2014, 06:37:16 PM
For those in NY game showing on channel 1103 on Cablevision (you would need the Caribbean package)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socachynee on November 18, 2014, 06:38:15 PM
7 minutes to go

Let's go Warriors!!!

http://www.concacaf.com/video/cfu-caribbean-cup-november-18-2014 stream working so far
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: g on November 18, 2014, 06:38:19 PM
Forum buzzing tonight… ah pulling out d Andre Samuel "ah love it!"

Like old times
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bitter on November 18, 2014, 06:44:41 PM
Forum buzzing tonight… ah pulling out d Andre Samuel "ah love it!"

Like old times

When the chat room have people in it, then we reach back to the 2006 days.
People even know it have a chat room?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: g on November 18, 2014, 06:47:37 PM

Forum buzzing tonight… ah pulling out d Andre Samuel "ah love it!"

Like old times

When the chat room have people in it, then we reach back to the 2006 days.
People even know it have a chat room?

Now it have TV coverage and live stream, back in dem days is bare radio coverage. Men needed that chat room to calm the nerves, ole talk

Signs of the times
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Tallman on November 18, 2014, 06:49:13 PM
T&T’s starting XI vs Jamaica:
21. Jan-Michael Williams (GK), 3. Joevin Jones, 6. Daneil Cyrus, 26. Aubrey David, 2. Justin Hoyte, 14. Andre Boucaud, 8. Khaleem Hyland, 7. Hughtun Hector, 23. Lester Peltier, 10. Kevin Molino,9. Kenwyne Jones (capt.)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bitter on November 18, 2014, 06:50:46 PM

Forum buzzing tonight… ah pulling out d Andre Samuel "ah love it!"

Like old times

When the chat room have people in it, then we reach back to the 2006 days.
People even know it have a chat room?

Now it have TV coverage and live stream, back in dem days is bare radio coverage. Men needed that chat room to calm the nerves, ole talk

Signs of the times

True, but it had plenty times we had live streaming and plenty ole talk in the chat room.
This reload the page business for ole talk too slow.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: supporter on November 18, 2014, 06:50:46 PM
Good to see a full house
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Spursy on November 18, 2014, 06:54:34 PM
Dont worry boyz, working on a chat room for the forum!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Trinidad Sports Reality on November 18, 2014, 06:55:12 PM
is aubrey david playing centre back hmm
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bitter on November 18, 2014, 06:57:41 PM
That is a real military-sounding rendition of the anthem.
I feel like goose-stepping now
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socalion on November 18, 2014, 07:00:10 PM
Ok  ppl ah dream de warriors win and hector played a huge role in de win ......so ppl ah just leggo meh  mark dey ..... now go yuh ting soca warriors   play for de nation   we behind yuh all de way....best wishes to Coach Stephen hart   and his team.... god bless
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Socapro on November 18, 2014, 07:01:53 PM
Match is just about to kick off!!

T&T vs JA Caribbean Cup Final starts in about 20 minutes! Here is the link to watch the game live:
CFU Caribbean Cup: November 18, 2014 on Livestream (http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9404595/Third-Final)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 07:06:40 PM
Very proud of these guys for taking a stand. Its been a long time we had a team worthy of their name. This is a team the entire country should get behind and support. Go Warriors!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: de_redman on November 18, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
What's with the vuvuzelas?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 07:15:38 PM
I would be even more proud if they were playing good football. We look scrappy.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bally on November 18, 2014, 07:16:17 PM
boy we under the gun
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 07:16:37 PM
these boys playing like me if you know what i mean.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: lefty on November 18, 2014, 07:16:42 PM
no pressuring
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bally on November 18, 2014, 07:17:15 PM
why all the long ball
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 07:18:42 PM
The passing is rubbish. Has there been a successful pass from Midfield to Forward yet? Jamaica playing good on the wings, running more and just looking more impressive in general
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: MEP on November 18, 2014, 07:18:59 PM
I almost ask why Carlos Edwards wearing a yellow 10
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 07:20:14 PM
Hector off his game
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bally on November 18, 2014, 07:20:44 PM
i done cant watch this shit
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: fari on November 18, 2014, 07:20:56 PM
What's with the vuvuzelas?

terrible eh
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: OutsideMan on November 18, 2014, 07:23:48 PM
I'm not understanding all the long balls.   :-\
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: MEP on November 18, 2014, 07:25:29 PM
they are playing a 4-5-1 so their first objective would be to find the target player so it means that they will play more direct thus the long balls
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Jumbie on November 18, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
JA put a fire hydrant in the middle of they field?..wait.. dat is kenwyne jones

@ first I say.. whey Beenie gone rasta in Jamaica (JA Coach)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 07:26:49 PM
I'm not understanding all the long balls.   :-\

Weak mids. I feel like applying a physicality training card to them.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bally on November 18, 2014, 07:27:02 PM
doe talk shit nah man
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 07:29:30 PM
why are we not attacking from the ground? i don't get it.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bally on November 18, 2014, 07:30:19 PM
if they come down the line and cross to Jones that could work we making it too easy for them
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 07:32:49 PM
We look slow too, Maybe Cato would do well.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: che on November 18, 2014, 07:33:27 PM
Let's go T&T.  :wavetowel:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: lefty on November 18, 2014, 07:33:56 PM
dat was no foul
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 07:36:19 PM
we are show9ing this team too much respect.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: che on November 18, 2014, 07:38:13 PM
This link working better for me: http://cricfree.sx/arsenal-live-stream-ch13.php
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socachynee on November 18, 2014, 07:38:40 PM
playin tah tah
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: lefty on November 18, 2014, 07:42:32 PM
kenwin could fight for dat ball from hector
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: presspass on November 18, 2014, 07:43:02 PM
Great idea having a Jamaican and Trini commentating on a final between Jamaica and T&T  :-\
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 07:43:36 PM
hope we don't concede before the half
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 07:45:04 PM
Joevin (Yellow 42)

Austin (Yellow 30)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: che on November 18, 2014, 07:48:11 PM
I hope those Vuvuzelas  doh catch on in T&T  :notlistening:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 07:49:26 PM
Cyrus clouting man.

 ;D

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socachynee on November 18, 2014, 07:51:14 PM
regroup for the 2nd half
I getting too old for dis football
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: g on November 18, 2014, 08:00:12 PM
We taking it in d second half
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: CAPITANO on November 18, 2014, 08:00:58 PM
I hope those Vuvuzelas  doh catch on in T&T  :notlistening:

Catch on? those things are so 2010...what is wrong with these people??
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: soccerman on November 18, 2014, 08:01:22 PM
We settled down as the first half progressed...we'll do better in the 2nd
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: maxg on November 18, 2014, 08:01:52 PM
I going an introduce a bit of the Dutch system  .... Heineken
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 08:03:28 PM
We settled down as the first half progressed...we'll do better in the 2nd
they are no vuvuzelas they are horn that they use in cricket games, unfortunately it has replced the conc shells.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 08:04:29 PM
That is one ugly ass ball.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Fensic on November 18, 2014, 08:05:11 PM
T&T not impressive. Too many Football 101 errors.

Way too many balls going from our halves over the top straight to the Jamaican defenders. It's like that's the direction of the goal so we kick it there. If not that is a long ball to Jones with multiple defenders around him and no other red jersey in sight. Sometimes when the Jamaican defense stops our attack the ball doesn't have to go all the way back to our defense to restart the attack. And as usual too many inconsistent first touches that change nice passes into a a 50-50 balls. I have no problems with the halves and defenders hard tackling them Jamaican forwards who want to show how good they good dribble. Give them something else to worry about as they bounce around with the ball.

The Warriors can and should win this match. Hopefully Hart can speak to some of the basic errors iat half time and the Warriors do just that - WIN.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 08:05:59 PM
what is coach hart's angle on this game, why are we playing so cautious and not pushing the envelope and attack on the ground and force errors and fouls?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socachynee on November 18, 2014, 08:06:05 PM
nice string of passes in the 2nd half to start
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 08:07:52 PM
Alyuh serious about passing ball on de ground on that field?  :frustrated:    >:(
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 08:09:04 PM
Hyland (Yellow 48).

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 08:10:07 PM
That ref is ah arse. Hyland get hard foul and no card telling him to get up. BUt when Hyland res ah jam in the player tail is card.   :shameonyou:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 08:10:17 PM
Boucaud (Yellow 50).

21. Jan-Michael Williams, 3. Joevin Jones (Yellow 42), 6. Daneil Cyrus, 26. Aubrey David, 2. Justin Hoyte, 14. Andre Boucaud (Yellow 50), 8. Khaleem Hyland (Yellow 48), 7. Hughtun Hector, 23. Lester Peltier, 10. Kevin Molino,9. Kenwyne Jones (capt.)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 08:12:39 PM
that grass too high. ball moving too slow for my liking
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 08:13:51 PM
why are we playing so darn scared? this is only jamaica huys why are we treating them like argentina?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 08:16:27 PM
YOu cyah have the CFU finals playing on that field. Embarrassing. 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 08:16:45 PM
Grant for Richards (56th)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 08:18:06 PM
if we can't put away this team then we don't deserve to be in the copa.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 08:22:31 PM
spacing
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 08:23:21 PM
is it only me who hates jones game?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 08:23:57 PM
if we can't put away this team then we don't deserve to be in the copa.

I agree but I still want us there.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: lefty on November 18, 2014, 08:24:43 PM
why is jones stoppin when he get push off d ball >:(
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 08:25:30 PM
The first game in a long time that T&T physically dominating JA in the tackles. We are the better team. And Hart is a better tactical thinker than Schafer. T&T has taken the sting out of the Jamaican offense

But too much long ball over the heads of the JA midfield, Jones foot heavy this evening.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 08:26:56 PM
Alyuh serious about passing ball on de ground on that field?  :frustrated:    >:(
why not? we have been passing it on the ground for the whole tournament and with effectiveness.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 08:27:18 PM
Cato on for Peltier 67th

21. Jan-Michael Williams, 3. Joevin Jones (Yellow 42), 6. Daneil Cyrus, 26. Aubrey David, 2. Justin Hoyte, 14. Andre Boucaud (Yellow 50), 8. Khaleem Hyland (Yellow 48), 7. Hughtun Hector, 23. Lester Peltier (13. Cordell Cato 67th), 10. Kevin Molino,9. Kenwyne Jones (capt.)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 08:28:21 PM
Cato on.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 08:28:44 PM
We need more enterprising wing play. A lot of nothing going on.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 08:28:54 PM
It always surprises me when Jones manages to score. Doesn't fight for anything. He is bigger than almost everyone on the field and he can't fend off one defender. SMH If he doesn't get a ball on his head 10 inches from the goal line then it seems like he couldn't be bothered
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 08:30:58 PM
if we can't put away this team then we don't deserve to be in the copa.

I agree but I still want us there.
this team is begging to be beaten, they are tried and wants to go home. i would think by now that we would take the crowd out of this game with their silly horns and have their own fans cursing them out.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 08:31:44 PM
Dawkins off for D.Phillips 71st

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 08:34:21 PM
If Jones dropping for the flick on from the long ball, why is no one running in behind the defense?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 08:34:52 PM
we have the best header of the game and he's not received one cross on his head.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: supporter on November 18, 2014, 08:35:59 PM
This is absolutely atrocious. This can't be classified as a football match...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 08:36:22 PM
my lord K jones could complain. what a baby.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bally on November 18, 2014, 08:37:54 PM
take off Jones nah man
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 08:38:40 PM
J. Jones have rel potential. That fella loaded to be a Dani Alves. wow.... which club he playing for.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 08:39:18 PM
take off Jones nah man

What alyuh watchig? Yuh can't take Jones off.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Fensic on November 18, 2014, 08:41:17 PM
if we can't put away this team then we don't deserve to be in the copa.

I agree but I still want us there.

He's playing like he did during the World Cup era. Stand around minimal effort.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bally on November 18, 2014, 08:41:29 PM
Hector lost
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 08:41:45 PM
take off Jones nah man

What alyuh watchig? Yuh can't take Jones off.

And what exactly has Jones done other than give up at the slightest challenge
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 08:42:40 PM
Guerra for Hector 82nd

21. Jan-Michael Williams, 3. Joevin Jones (Yellow 42), 6. Daneil Cyrus, 26. Aubrey David, 2. Justin Hoyte, 14. Andre Boucaud (Yellow 50), 8. Khaleem Hyland (Yellow 48), 7. Hughtun Hector (11. Ataullah Guerra 82nd), 23. Lester Peltier (13. Cordell Cato 67th), 10. Kevin Molino,9. Kenwyne Jones (capt.)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Cowen on November 18, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
that field is a complete mess for a final
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: che on November 18, 2014, 08:43:30 PM
Not impressed my either team  :bs:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: fari on November 18, 2014, 08:44:12 PM
we have the best header of the game and he's not received one cross on his head.

buddy he get balls to head and balls to challenge for in the box but he studying his club...commentator and all say he playing very lax...i will say that he got a few headed passes though
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Cocorite on November 18, 2014, 08:44:24 PM
Guerra for Hector 82nd

21. Jan-Michael Williams, 3. Joevin Jones (Yellow 42), 6. Daneil Cyrus, 26. Aubrey David, 2. Justin Hoyte, 14. Andre Boucaud (Yellow 50), 8. Khaleem Hyland (Yellow 48), 7. Hughtun Hector (11. Ataullah Guerra 82nd), 23. Lester Peltier (13. Cordell Cato 67th), 10. Kevin Molino,9. Kenwyne Jones (capt.)

Bout time
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: fari on November 18, 2014, 08:44:34 PM
that field is a complete mess for a final

it terrible eh
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 08:44:59 PM
god k jones irks me, he's not even trying to get on the end of the ball. he is the easiest striker in the world to shut down and he whines to much.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 08:45:44 PM
We playing like we're a goal up in a fete match
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 08:46:28 PM
Bout time we get a corner.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 08:49:01 PM
god k jones irks me, he's not even trying to get on the end of the ball. he is the easiest striker in the world to shut down and he whines to much.

Well you rel complaining bout KJ. Tim Kee is you?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Deeks on November 18, 2014, 08:50:28 PM
Bring on Glenn!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 08:51:28 PM
Finally decide to throw umbers forward. I see what Hart guarding against in staying numbers up defensively.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: presspass on November 18, 2014, 08:52:52 PM
god k jones irks me, he's not even trying to get on the end of the ball. he is the easiest striker in the world to shut down and he whines to much.

Well you rel complaining bout KJ. Tim Kee is you?

 :rotfl: a lil too soon
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 08:55:42 PM
Worst game I've seen K Jones play.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
Molino just need ONE good chance. ONE!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Peong on November 18, 2014, 08:56:49 PM
Guerra had it boy, that was a good chance.
0 shots on target time to change that.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 08:57:09 PM
Not enough responsibility being taken in the final third ...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 08:58:12 PM
Worst game I've seen K Jones play.

He's played worse.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
Seaton on for Mattocks 93rd

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: soccerman on November 18, 2014, 08:59:44 PM
Not enough responsibility being taken in the final third ...
Exactly
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: maxg on November 18, 2014, 09:01:08 PM
Good game. Jamaica has a better attack doh..midfield more mobile and dangerous..TT to static..right half right..center always center..left, what left..to predictable..and as someone pointed out to little spacing..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socachynee on November 18, 2014, 09:02:36 PM
lawd dat over the bar was close
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 09:03:29 PM
Like Jamaica drink some redbull during the break. WTF.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: maxg on November 18, 2014, 09:05:24 PM
their midfielders are roving constantly..unmarkable..tt has to play way better to beat these guys..
they playin like they have something to prove...we playing like we is the champs
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 09:06:07 PM
this is embarrassing i can't watch anymore. how the hell did we melt down and not show up in the most important game.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 09:08:24 PM
Jamaica has been superior. Not comprehensively so ... but enough to merit mention.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 09:08:54 PM
jones is running away from the ball instead of heading it to a player, he's terrible.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: maxg on November 18, 2014, 09:09:39 PM
Plaza, Winchester or bring Shadon, if we not going to use Jones head...unless he keeping him for penalties
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 09:09:52 PM
Worst game I've seen K Jones play.

He's played worse.

Can't believe that's possible. We playing with 10 men. KJ practically invisible at this point
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 09:10:36 PM
Right now we are accommodating KJ ...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 09:10:52 PM
Worst game I've seen K Jones play.

Who on the field playing good?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 09:11:13 PM
our players are toasted, jamaica will soon score.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 09:11:40 PM
I don't think the Jamaican keeper has had to make a save yet. I ready to go in my bed oui
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 09:13:17 PM
Worst game I've seen K Jones play.

Who on the field playing good?

Cyrus, J Jones, and Jan, just off the top of my head
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 09:14:20 PM
Yeah Jan is MOM for Trinidad.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: maxg on November 18, 2014, 09:14:37 PM
nah KJ not putting down a load tonight..he kinda constipated
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 09:15:12 PM
Why is KJ a captain if he is so easily demotivated.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 09:15:41 PM
T&T playing to conservative and look more worried about getting scored on than scoring.

Disappointed with Molino, Hector and Kenwyne, I know they can do better. 3 players I thought would have been hard to contain.

David and Cyrus playing really well. Joevin had a decent first half to.

T&T midfield hustling well, they just to dull going forward.

George on for Boucaud 105th

21. Jan-Michael Williams, 3. Joevin Jones (Yellow 42), 6. Daneil Cyrus, 26. Aubrey David, 2. Justin Hoyte, 14. Andre Boucaud (Yellow 50) (5. Kevan George 105th), 8. Khaleem Hyland (Yellow 48), 7. Hughtun Hector (11. Ataullah Guerra 82nd), 23. Lester Peltier (13. Cordell Cato 67th), 10. Kevin Molino, 9. Kenwyne Jones (capt.)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 09:16:40 PM
Guerra will make this happen.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: maxg on November 18, 2014, 09:17:08 PM
Rope ah dope, Rope ah dope...look action now
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Deeks on November 18, 2014, 09:17:39 PM
Bring on Glenn!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: OutsideMan on November 18, 2014, 09:18:54 PM
We're playing like the pre-Steven Hart T&T teams.  The passes in the final offensive 3rd are predictable...we're looking like a bad Intercol team right now.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 09:20:37 PM
Bring on Glenn!!!

No more subs. T&T used all.

Both teams in-fact.

21. Jan-Michael Williams, 3. Joevin Jones (Yellow 42), 6. Daneil Cyrus, 26. Aubrey David, 2. Justin Hoyte, 14. Andre Boucaud (Yellow 50) (5. Kevan George 105th), 8. Khaleem Hyland (Yellow 48), 7. Hughtun Hector (11. Ataullah Guerra 82nd), 23. Lester Peltier (13. Cordell Cato 67th), 10. Kevin Molino, 9. Kenwyne Jones (capt.)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 09:21:40 PM
Cato has been losing the ball too easily since he came on
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: maxg on November 18, 2014, 09:22:14 PM
jan coulda let dah fella get the ball, he good ...but bong throw way
add: me fadda used to say he good to throw way
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 09:24:08 PM
Cato have wheels.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 09:27:54 PM
George doing much better this game.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: presspass on November 18, 2014, 09:29:08 PM
Anyone else make out Tim Kee kixin in d stand?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: MEP on November 18, 2014, 09:29:20 PM
 lackluster, non-creative and devoid of ideas would be how I describe this performance from TnT
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 09:31:31 PM
Penalties...

Jan, all is yours.

 ;D

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: lefty on November 18, 2014, 09:31:36 PM
penalties
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Peong on November 18, 2014, 09:32:26 PM
dotishness
So zero shots on goal after 120 mins?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 09:33:35 PM
This match hasn't merited penalties. Hopefully we walk away with continued fortune.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: supporter on November 18, 2014, 09:34:14 PM
Copa America is penalties away...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 09:34:50 PM
oh lord, penalties are not our strong point. kj redeem yourself
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 09:35:11 PM
Jamaica to kick first. Taylor



Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 09:35:21 PM
Someone remind me why Cyrus is playing in Vietnam.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: g on November 18, 2014, 09:35:45 PM
We taking it in the pks
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 09:36:36 PM
Jermaine Taylor scores his first INTL goal for JAM.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2014, 09:37:24 PM
Jamaica makes the save.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: toonmili on November 18, 2014, 09:37:37 PM
And he smiles.... :cursing:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 09:37:57 PM
we can criticize KJ, but many of the balls TOWARDS him weren't even usable balls. They were just launched into him. Just a driven ball all the time. Even when he won the ball no one playing under him to running in behind him for 2nd ball, men stand up watching.

We need a better game plan than kick it forward to KJ and then complain when he eh run like ah mad man. By now we should know KJ is not the player to run everywhere and scrap for the ball. If we want that type of player then we need to select that type of player. Other than that we have to use KJ strengths.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socachynee on November 18, 2014, 09:38:16 PM
@!#!@$#!#@
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 09:38:54 PM
Someone remind me why Cyrus is playing in Vietnam.

that and KJ's whereabouts tonight are a great mystery.

kj was a complete waste in this game.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: maxg on November 18, 2014, 09:39:32 PM
oh gorm KJ..even dah fella score man...boy need some Senna bad
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 09:41:15 PM
we can criticize KJ, but many of the balls TOWARDS him weren't even usable balls. They were just launched into him. Just a driven ball all the time. Even when he won the ball no one playing under him to running in behind him for 2nd ball, men stand up watching.

We need a better game plan than kick it forward to KJ and then complain when he eh run like ah mad man. By now we should know KJ is not the player to run everywhere and scrap for the ball. If we want that type of player then we need to select that type of player. Other than that we have to use KJ strengths.

dread...kj shit himself down tonight. talk done
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: lefty on November 18, 2014, 09:41:27 PM
jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 09:41:40 PM
Jan is the man with the plan
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 09:42:49 PM
we can criticize KJ, but many of the balls TOWARDS him weren't even usable balls. They were just launched into him. Just a driven ball all the time. Even when he won the ball no one playing under him to running in behind him for 2nd ball, men stand up watching.

We need a better game plan than kick it forward to KJ and then complain when he eh run like ah mad man. By now we should know KJ is not the player to run everywhere and scrap for the ball. If we want that type of player then we need to select that type of player. Other than that we have to use KJ strengths.

dread...kj shit himself down tonight. talk done

Daiz all alyuh does see. Not why he eh do nothing.

The midfield was terrible. No service, no enterprise, nothing. Even crix have more flavor than we midfield tonight.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: lefty on November 18, 2014, 09:43:13 PM
lawwd pressure
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: de_redman on November 18, 2014, 09:43:41 PM
Congrats anyway fellas!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 09:43:58 PM
Hyland FFS
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: lefty on November 18, 2014, 09:44:08 PM
steups
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socachynee on November 18, 2014, 09:44:25 PM
good night
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Tenorsaw on November 18, 2014, 09:45:59 PM
What a horrible match, technically.  Caribbean football in de doldrums, if this is what we have to show.  We looked uncomfortable in possession, when pressed, and possession was all lateral, nothing penetrating.  We do not have a true number 10 on that team.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Controversial on November 18, 2014, 09:46:05 PM
nuttin to say, jones throw away that goal and hyland is a waste of time as i have always said...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 09:47:05 PM
How does Jan's effort during PKs compare to his history with kicks ... say, during the First Citizen's Cup.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Quags on November 18, 2014, 09:47:27 PM
The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat .
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 09:48:22 PM
My heart just sank to the floor
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: kaliman2006 on November 18, 2014, 09:48:37 PM
Jamaica deserved to win; I think the only saves the Jamaica keeper had to make was in the penalty shootout

But KJ really set a bad tone with his lackadaisacal run up for the first penalty.

T&T has to rethink its mental approach to finals
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 09:48:37 PM
we can criticize KJ, but many of the balls TOWARDS him weren't even usable balls. They were just launched into him. Just a driven ball all the time. Even when he won the ball no one playing under him to running in behind him for 2nd ball, men stand up watching.

We need a better game plan than kick it forward to KJ and then complain when he eh run like ah mad man. By now we should know KJ is not the player to run everywhere and scrap for the ball. If we want that type of player then we need to select that type of player. Other than that we have to use KJ strengths.

dread...kj shit himself down tonight. talk done

Daiz all alyuh does see. Not why he eh do nothing.

The midfield was terrible. No service, no enterprise, nothing. Even crix have more flavor than we midfield tonight.

I agree. But when he did get the ball he did ABSOLUTELY nothing with it. And he made ZERO effort to hold up the ball. Plus his LAZY, SHIT waste penalty helped us loose.

Congrats to JA. On a day when our captain was at his best the result would be a lot different.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: g on November 18, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
We were not good enough today.

I am ok with the result.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 18, 2014, 09:49:58 PM
Tough loss. If we do well in the Gold cup, we will qualify for Copa Centenario.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 09:52:48 PM
Are you guys listening to the comments by our opponents?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Spursy on November 18, 2014, 09:53:08 PM
Jones straight up 322
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 09:53:39 PM
Are you guys listening to the comments by our opponents?

At this point it does not matter. another final, another loss

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: kaliman2006 on November 18, 2014, 09:54:01 PM
Hyland FFS

I would have felt better if the Jamaican keeper had saved the penalty; not see it sail off into the night
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 09:55:09 PM


its never that serious. calm down bredda
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 09:55:14 PM
kenwyne jones is a bum, he could only beat up on minovs.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 09:56:44 PM
Hyland FFS

I would have felt better if the Jamaican keeper had saved the penalty; not see it sail off into the night

He wasn't on my list to kick.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: g on November 18, 2014, 09:58:03 PM
emotions run high after the final whistle, normal ting
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 09:58:05 PM
fk jamaica. did you hear that homo talking about we treat them bad when they are in trinidad. i say deport all of them gary griffith. we don't need people who don't like us in our country.

its never that serious. calm down bredda
forgive me but i can't stand ignorant people and i don't want them in my country either. we have enough ignorance of our own.  hope all the people who like to bring them to our country for stage shows realize how they feel about us.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: soccerman on November 18, 2014, 09:59:12 PM
JA deserved it tonight but I fuming on de inside :pissedoff:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2014, 10:00:55 PM
Hard luck T&T. Some positives from the game...(1) No goals scored during regular play (2) T&T had a tremendous off field burden and were still able to grind out a draw against JA at home before penalties. (3) Strong young talent like George, Cato, Cyrus, David, J Jones are coming into their own.

Now we must place all our efforts into getting our U-20 team quality preparation and integrating them into them into the senior team for the next WC qualifiers.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Sando prince on November 18, 2014, 10:01:26 PM

My last comment in this thread.

Disappointed in our so called star players the most. Jones, Molino, Hyland. We create individual threads on the forum rating up these players but unless they can show why they are cut above the rest in these important games we need to stop with this false sense of believing they can walk in the shoes of Latapy and Yorke in the near future.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 10:02:05 PM
this really hurts. we had so many attacking brilliance and they all went missing tonight. makes me wonder if they threw the game to spite the TTFA.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: elan on November 18, 2014, 10:02:13 PM
Arrite Coach Hart yuh see what yuh have to see. Start making plans to make a run to the Gold Cup semis. Good luck going forward.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 10:05:53 PM
Are you guys listening to the comments by our opponents?

At this point it does not matter. another final, another loss

The comments don't change the outcome? Agreed. However, they are emblematic of a continuing dynamic in contests between both nations. On the evidence of that, I would have preferred to have seen evidence of our understanding of that "undercurrent".

When you have a JA captain politicizing a clean victory, it's evidence that we continue to not get the Jamaican psyche in competition.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: MilkyX on November 18, 2014, 10:06:11 PM
From the time I saw Hyland heading to take that penalty I knew it was over. I think he believes he is a lot better than he actually is. Which in itself isn't bad, but I feel when he looks in the mirror, he sees Messi staring back at him. I'm not upset about the penalty miss, it happens. But he has never impressed me as a competent, confident midfielder. At least KJ scores every once in a while.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: kaliman2006 on November 18, 2014, 10:08:35 PM

My last comment in this thread.

Disappointed in our so called star players the most. Jones, Molino, Hyland. We create individual threads on the forum rating up these players but unless they can show why they are cut above the rest in these important games we need to stop with this false sense of believing they can walk in the shoes of Latapy and Yorke in the near future.

The problem is that even when Latapy and Yorke were at best, Jamaica was always a tough game, especially in Jamaica.

I really think many of our players DO NOT have a proper understanding of the Jamaican mentality.

Although, the Jamaican team tonight was technically superior to the T&T team (the warriors were lucky not to lose by two or three goals), it would have been a tough game nevertheless even if we had the better team on paper.

Jamaica's midfield and defence made us resort to kick and hope football, and many of our players were very lethargic in possession and pressured into giving the ball away.

Our national pride needs to come back
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Deeks on November 18, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
Gold Cup!!! I feel Coach Hart should resign and go back Canada. After all that bakannal, he still want to coach TT. He has to be a bit mad. He is glutton for more punishment. Sheldon should leave also. He getting blame for things he can't control. Let the 2006 Warriors come and run the show, as some people are clamoring for. Let's see if they really got what it takes to fix this friggin TT madhouse..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Dinner Mints on November 18, 2014, 10:14:29 PM
I seem to remember Latapy and Yorke getting cuss playing for we too. People saying they doh show up and does only play for they clubs, etc. So I eh sure the comparisons to current players are so invalid after all.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: soccerman on November 18, 2014, 10:15:11 PM
So where do our MNT go from here???
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 10:15:19 PM
Are you guys listening to the comments by our opponents?

At this point it does not matter. another final, another loss

The comments don't change the outcome? Agreed. However, they are emblematic of a continuing dynamic in contests between both nations. On the evidence of that, I would have preferred to have seen evidence of our understanding of that "undercurrent".

When you have a JA captain politicizing a clean victory, it's evidence that we continue to not get the Jamaican psyche in competition.
so true. i say no class on his part and look how he barely wanted to shake timkee's hand. i for one don't trust jamaicans and never will. they hate us and we should never think other wise. of course there are those who don't feel like that but they are very few but they hate trinidadians for the most part.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 10:16:33 PM

My last comment in this thread.

Disappointed in our so called star players the most. Jones, Molino, Hyland. We create individual threads on the forum rating up these players but unless they can show why they are cut above the rest in these important games we need to stop with this false sense of believing they can walk in the shoes of Latapy and Yorke in the near future.

This is nonsense with respect to Molino, and perhaps harsh on Hyland. Jones is reasonably open to critique, but once he's on the field ... it's a systemic issue of how to play ... even granted that he has a style of playing that's not everyone's cup of tea.

Also, constantly using Latas and Yorke as benchmarks is doomed for failure.

EDIT: In any event, it's important for us to celebrate our own ... no problem with a thread with individual focus on any of them.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: soccerman on November 18, 2014, 10:16:46 PM
So where do our MNT go from here??? Will some of these players call it quits?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Deeks on November 18, 2014, 10:19:58 PM

My last comment in this thread.

Disappointed in our so called star players the most. Jones, Molino, Hyland. We create individual threads on the forum rating up these players but unless they can show why they are cut above the rest in these important games we need to stop with this false sense of believing they can walk in the shoes of Latapy and Yorke in the near future.

The problem is that even when Latapy and Yorke were at best, Jamaica was always a tough game, especially in Jamaica.

I really think many of our players DO NOT have a proper understanding of the Jamaican mentality.

Although, the Jamaican team tonight was technically superior to the T&T team (the warriors were lucky not to lose by two or three goals), it would have been a tough game nevertheless even if we had the better team on paper.

Jamaica's midfield and defence made us resort to kick and hope football, and many of our players were very lethargic in possession and pressured into giving the ball away.

Our national pride needs to come back

We understand the JA mentality quite alright. And we did beat 2 games last year. But that is beside the point. Our team had nothing to show. Midfield. Zilch. I am not a big KJ fan, but he got next to nothing to make a decent attempt at goal. Right now this is not even Gold Cup material team. We better get some decent midfielders very fast. Very disappointed. Definitely not Copa material either.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 10:20:03 PM
So where do our MNT go from here???
to the gold cup obviously. im not unhappy we lost as much as im unhappy that we were out played in the final attacking third by a mediocre team, not one shot at the keeper which is beyond embarrassing.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: soccerman on November 18, 2014, 10:22:49 PM
So where do our MNT go from here???
to the gold cup obviously. im not unhappy we lost as much as im unhappy that we were out played in the final attacking third by a mediocre team, not one shot at the keeper which is beyond embarrassing.
Yes I know we're going to the GC but I'm looking at the bigger picture in terms of if the players will be willing to com back and play under the current TTFA administration.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Banter Banton on November 18, 2014, 10:28:56 PM
I thought Cyrus and Aubrey were fantastic tonight. Joevin Jones was brilliant too.

The entire backline were brave and gave 100% ... Molino tried and tried but cannot fault his effort and Hector and Boucaud just could not get going.

Peltier , Jones and Hyland were very very poor. Especially Kenwyne. In a game which was always going to be a physical war he did not play his part. He did not sacrifice. He needed to be up on their 2 CB's and keep them fully occupied all night to allow Molino space to do damage in. He ended up dragging Molino into a physical game vs their defenders.

Lastly, the pitch was the worst I have seen in a long time. All tournament it has restricted us from attempting to play and it completely played into Jamaica's hands tonight and tiny tiny details can sometimes alter outcomes. Jamaica are into the Copa and have won a trophy because of it.

I cannot understand why the TTFA hierarchy did not fight tooth and nail to bring that tournament in T&T where we have multiple stadia , compared to the 2 in JAM and only 1 was used for 2 groups !
We could have played at the recently new Manny or the upgraded HCS surface and also have home advantage. We would have gotten crowds in the group stage and most definitely the final... Income generated from gate receipts and other revenue streams such as merchandise etc. You could raise money, raise interest and win your first trophy in 13 years and put us into a prestigious tournament in 2016 but no, allow Burrel to work Webb and land the most important Caribbean Cup when they finished last in their group in 2012 and we finished as finalists. Could have easily sold Webb etc on the upward curve of the national team and give us the tournament to go that one step further and win the thing.

Tiny details..we keep missing boats.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2014, 10:33:11 PM
...
We understand the JA mentality quite alright. And we did beat 2 games last year. But that is beside the point. Our team had nothing to show. Midfield. Zilch. I am not a big KJ fan, but he got next to nothing to make a decent attempt at goal. Right now this is not even Gold Cup material team. We better get some decent midfielders very fast. Very disappointed. Definitely not Copa material either.

Easy to place the microscope on the MF ... However, when we get into good attacking positions and add support from the MF high up the pitch, if we don't get available shots off ... or if we don't seek to impose and penetrate, and we lose the ball through a lack of responsibility or overpassing on innocuous short passes that don't advance our cause ... then when the opponent wins possession, they are running into vacant space (at times 30 to 40 yards of it on a counter attack).

Our response to the counterattack often comes down to poor individual decision-making ... both at the point of loss of possession and  at the point of "confrontation" regarding the counter.

I don't think this game is reflective of the best we could generate, but even so look how far it took us.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: davyjenny1 on November 18, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
So where do our MNT go from here???

Hart to maintain building or developing plans towards the GC and into the WC qualifiers then subject to removal in the final stages if we get to the Hex or there after.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: davidephraim on November 18, 2014, 10:36:07 PM
Well because of the DVR feature, ah late. My thoughts!

I think that the name Jamaica, is synonymous with Heart & strength! They showed tonight, from their coach (who embodies the JA spirit well) all the way to the players, why if your're coming to beat them - you have to come and beat them! I think that Coach Hart started off with a safety first attitude, which I believe emboldened the JA team.

Technically superior, I dont agree - we actually didnt see the TnT team play tonight. They kinda just hung around. Timid in their approach, they could only show glimpses of actual football and part of the problem is the lack of momentum, deriving from open play. Our get it to the big man mentality, especially after some of the good football we've played in this tournament, was appalling.

It must have seemed strange, in my team line-up, when I didnt start KJ, but instead sought to Boss the midfield. We didnt only lose the battle in the midfield, but the ability to battle was taken away with the type of football we think we're forced to play, to support our captain's style.  We are losing out.

We are actually as technically gifted and speedy if not speedier getting down dem flanks and we have the inner mids to receive and feed the tru pass in tru the middle as opposed to the long time hook in and hope stuff that was on display!

With the type of team Jamrock is, I would have went with a packed midfield, with speedy flanks to keep all that "Heart and Soul" in check. Cya do nothing if yuh dont have the ball.

Lastly, to coach Hart, I think you can learn a thing or two from your counterpart tonight. He was full of vigor and it transfers. I know, thats really shitty for quieter people and its not fair that one should have to flail and flare up to instill confidence into your players, and I eh know you from Adam to know what kinda person you are, but I can sure tell you what kinda person your counterpart is.

The fact of the matter is that when your gonna go up against Jamaica, you better make dam sure that your gonna outclass them because your not gonna out-heart them or out run them and their prowess will always keep them as the threat favorite in a face off! Come on guys, we've been doing this for some time now!

Jamaica, should be TnT's first, next friendly, when preparing for the Gold Cup Next year. Down in Jamaica! Hopefully by then, coach Hart will figure out how to walk his team into the office and come out with a win!

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Spursy on November 18, 2014, 10:39:31 PM
Well boyz I was looking at the quality of the pitch too. We had a plan tonite it was not to be. Plan was, hold them score late. KJ had a really tough game, there was always two or three yellow shirts on him making it hard to hold the ball up in attacking third. JA plan worked but it was risky too. JA had the most possession with home advantage so the team was forced to play the long forward balls searching for a nice drop. JA did well to stop the flow going forward. Hart uses KJ like US uses Joze, hold the ball, touch and go but that wasn't going to work on this surface.

Something I've noticed. The team always needs a captain but our captain isn't consistent, Hart is forced to stick with Jones even when he is not having the best games. Lets face it here KJ on his off days have not so good positioning, when he is been marked hard the frustration in him shows. I suggest maybe Cyrus or Jan for captain so KJ can be subbed on his off days. Hyland was poor today and it showed with his first yellow, he did have some words with the referee and since then it was hard to win his favor on 50/50 plays.

JA was quicker to win second balls in the middle, they tracked down players, we more crisp in passing, their movement was good, the switched play well and marked out our star players, all the credit in the world to them. All this talk about Latas and Yorke with comparison, they had shares of harsh lessons, tough defeats and glorious victories, each generation have to adjust to the game in that era.
Anyway the load was heavy for KJ and when captaincy becomes a burden rather than an inspiration everyone around you make mistakes.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 10:39:55 PM
that field was atrocious can't believe they held a whole tournament on this cow pasture with a big sink in the middle. how awful.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: OutsideMan on November 18, 2014, 10:48:41 PM
I've read through some of the comments here, and though I agree with many of the points made, I have to disagree on the point that we need better midfielders.  That fact is, we don't need any more midfielders, because a lack of mid-field wasn't our problem.  Our main problem for a long time now has been strategic when it comes to the offensive third of the field. 

We don't consistently employ dummy plays...mis-direction runs...diagonal passes into the box...passes into the space, not to the man...or any number of other defense-confusing-strategic runs or passes into the opposition's defensive 3rd. 

We have players with real good skills, but for the most part we lack a football IQ.  We constantly play a school-boy Intercol style of play, where fellas expect the ball to be passed right to their feet, instead of making dummy runs, and cutting-back sharply within the offensive 3rd to collect the ball. 

Honestly, I would rather have a team with 1/10th the skill of T&T, but with the football IQ of geniuses.  Right now, we're just high on skill, but low on football IQ.

Ah gone!   :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Spursy on November 18, 2014, 10:50:07 PM
Love our coach though. Under his guidance tnt always have a plan. If Guerra had buried that or Molino we would be singing a different tune, we had our chances, it just wasn't our night. i am sure the coach will sort things out for the Gold Cup and it will be fun to watch tnt face some of the big gunz in the region.

Look on the bright side, it's not like before where we losing to Guyana at home, be careful who's head you call for when you don't know what head you going to replace it with.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2014, 10:57:12 PM
Love our coach though. Under his guidance tnt always have a plan. If Guerra had buried that or Molino we would be singing a different tune, we had our chances, it just wasn't our night. i am sure the coach will sort things out for the Gold Cup and it will be fun to watch tnt face some of the big gunz in the region.

Look on the bright side, it's not like before where we losing to Guyana at home, be careful who's head you call for when you don't know what head you going to replace it with.
bro i don't think we will have the same coach come next week. on another note, i would rather lose to haiti or antigua these people have class.. i can't stand losing to these people. hawk too
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Savannah boy on November 18, 2014, 11:28:56 PM
I did not understand KJ's choice of strategy on the penalty. The execution was bad in itself. Dat ball needed to be a little higher. The ball play the GK boots is not like he make some big save. He must be thanking KJ all now. I have issues with that on a first penalty. If you taking #3 and #4 and yuh know de GK playing post all the time and throwing heself left and right, I could see the rational.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Socapro on November 19, 2014, 12:08:16 AM
So where do our MNT go from here???

Gold Cup preparation! Winning the Caribbean Cup is not that important outside of bragging rights.

On a related note Kenwyne Jones and Moliino both underperformed tonight and Kenwyne missing the 1st penalty in the way that he did as captain set the tone for us losing the penalty shootout.

No decent shots on goal all night in 120 minutes was also embarrassing and too many long balls to Jones who was well marked all of the time by at least two Jamaicans.
We threw away the ball too many times especially with throw-ins or goal kicks when some ball possession could have served us well as we looked patiently for more goal scoring opportunities with chances to shoot on goal.

I believe that the wage dispute ultimately affected the performance of the team as we played much better in the previous round held in T&T.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 19, 2014, 02:48:26 AM
Runners up for a second straight time
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior footballers succumbed to Jamaica  on penalty kicks but a second place finish at the Caribbean Cup Finals is still a proud achievement and leaves a lot to anticipate going forward.

That was the feeling of head coach Stephen Hart at the end of the match in which a Khaleem Hyland missed penalty gave Jamaica the 2014 title after both teams battled to a scoreless draw before a partisan Jamaican crowd at the Montego Bay Sports Complex. This was the second straight runner up finish for T&T after losing 1-0 to Cuba in the 2012 final.

There was disappointment all around in the T&T dressing room and at the team hotel afterwards but Hart told his players that they must take the experience with them and use it to their benefit going forward.

“It was not the result any of us wanted but as a team and as the head coach of the team I thought the overall match was a good measuring stick for us and a good one for us as it relates to our preparations for playing World Cup qualifying matches away from home in a few months,” Hart told TTFA Media.

“I was proud of the way the players handled the conditions throughout the competition and especially tonight. Some people may argue that it wasn’t our best performance and fair enough. Maybe the fans back home deserved to see a better game but this was a final against the hosts and Jamaica being a team with an impressive home record, it was never going to be an easy contest. And the game showed us that.

There were some good moments for us and particularly near the end when we could have stolen it with a late winner. This is exactly what we are going to face when we are on the road for our World Cup qualifiers,” Hart added.

As he looked back at the game, he stressed the need for more international games for the country.

“We just didn’t get our rhythm going and most of the times we lacked that final telling ball that could have created more scoring chances for us. I’m not making any excuses but the schedule of four games in eight days didn’t help us and yes Jamaica showed more energy than us at times but they were at home and several of their players are playing ninety minutes of top flight football every week, Some of our players are not getting that at the moment and it’s something we will look at and work on.

“And of course we have to get a regular schedule of training camps and warm up matches if we are to find ourselves in a position where we can safely maintain a high level or consistent level of play for long periods,” Hart said.

Kevin Molino had T&T’s best opportunity in the 23rd minute but his right footer missed the upright after Kenwyne Jones laid it up for him from an incoming cross.

Jamaica kept pressing for the go ahead goal but T&T kept it solid at the back to deny the hosts. Leyton Orient midfielder Jobi McAnuff had some good looks at goal but his finishing was a let down.

T&T appeared jaded as the second half progressed and Jamaica also took their game down to walking pace at times but the hosts were determined not to let down their fans while T&T searched for something inspiring on the pitch. It almost came in the dying stages of regulation time when Guerra connected with a loose ball but his shot went inches wide to the dismay of the T&T players both on the field and on the bench.

Jones muffed the opening penalty and when Jan Michael Williams stopped one to bring T&T back in it after Molino, Guerra and Joevin Jones clinically converted their kicks, the Racing Genk then skied his attempt over bar to give Jamaica the Cup.

T&T are through to the CONCACAF Gold Cup 2015 but while Jamaica are through to the Gold Cup as well as the 2015 Copa America (by invitation) and the 2016 Centennial Copa America. T&T can still qualify for the 2015 Copa America but will have to do so by finishing as one of  the two play-off winners from among the four highest finishers in the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup not already qualified, or finish winners of the 2015 Gold Cup.

“We’ve made progress. I’m proud of my team. We’ve got work to do but we’re in the Gold Cup so all is not lost. We have some internal problems to be fixed and we’ve got programs to plan and implement. We’ll be fine because we’ve got a capable, committed squad and we also have some players to add who were not in this tournament,” Hart ended.

Teams

Trinidad and Tobago: 21.Jan-Michael Williams; 2.Justin Hoyte, 26.Aubrey David, 6.Daneil Cyrus, 3.Joevin Jones (Yellow 42); 14.Andre Boucaud (Yellow 50) (5.Kevan George 105th), 8.Khaleem Hyland (Yellow 48); 23.Lester Peltier (13.Cordell Cato 67th), 10.Kevin Molino, 7.Hughtun Hector (11.Ataullah Guerra 82nd); 9.Kenwyne Jones (capt).

Unused substitutes: 1.Marvin Phillip (GK), 24.Adrian Foncette (GK), 12.Radanfah Abu Bakr, 15.Jamal Gay, 16.Shahdon Winchester, 17.Leston Paul, 18.Yohance Marshall, 19.Carlyle Mitchell, 27.Jonathan Glenn.

Coach: Stephen Hart.

Jamaica: 1.Andre Bake; 7.Hughan Gay, 5.Alvas Powell, 6.Jermaine Taylor, 20.Kemar Lawrence; 15.Je-Vaughn Watson, 17.Rodolph Austin (Yellow 30) (capt); 11.Dane Richards (16.Joel Grant 56th), 10.Jobi McAnuff; 18.Simon Dawkins (12.Demar Phillips 71st), 21.Darren Mattocks (9.Michael Seaton 91st).

Unused substitutes: 13.Ryan Thompson (GK), 2.Nyron Nosworthy, 3.Craig Foster, 4.Upston Edwards, 8.Nicholay Finlayson.

Coach: Winfried Schäfer.

PENALTIES

1-0 Jermaine Taylor (Jamaica), Good
1-0 Kenwyne Jones (Trinidad & Tobago), Saved
2-0 Jobi McAnuff (Jamaica), Good
2-1 Attaullah Guerra (Trinidad & Tobago), Good
3-1 Demar Phillips (Jamaica), Good
3-2 Kevin Molino (Trinidad & Tobago), Good
3-2 Michael Seaton (Jamaica), Saved
3-3 Joevin Jones (Trinidad & Tobago), Good
4-3 Rodolph Austin (Jamaica), Good
4-3 Khaleem Hyland (Trinidad & Tobago), Saved

Jamaica claims Caribbean Cup crown on PKs.
CONCACAF.COM


MONTEGO BAY, Jamaica – Jamaica captured the Caribbean Cup title for a sixth time, outlasting Trinidad & Tobago 4-3 on penalty kicks after the final ended in a scoreless draw on Tuesday at the Montego Bay Sports Complex.

Khaleem Hyland missed on the Soca Warriors’ last attempt after Rodolph Austin applied the pressure by converting on the host’s fifth try.

Both sides had already sealed berths in next year’s CONCACAF Gold Cup, but the Jamaicans earned an added bonus of direct qualification to the 2016 Centennial Cup America.

The tightly-contested encounter between a pair of evenly-matched teams produced precious few scoring chances before the hour mark.

Jamaica’s Jobi McAnuff had the best in the 19th minute.  The Leyton Orient standout missed the right post by the slightest of margins after swopping in to follow-up on an effort by Dane Richards that goalkeeper Jan-Michael Williams did well to save.

In a 56th minute bid to loosen up the middle, team captain Austin cranked an attempt from 35-yards out that perhaps came closer than even he initially anticipated.

Reggae Boyz forward Darren Mattocks, who scored in each of the first three games, was frustrated with himself for not making better contact on an 81st minute header.

The Trinidadians found a new gear with minutes left in the second half as Daneil Cyrus headed over the crossbar off a corner kick, while second-half substitute Attaullah Guerra’s low drive from 25-yards out skipped just beyond the right post.

McAnuff nearly netted in the 93rd minute, but didn’t realize he had more time to shoot and hurriedly fired over the crossbar from just inside the box.

Jamaica and Trinidad, which has won a record eight Caribbean championships, completed the competition with the same unbeaten records at 2-2-0.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Flex on November 19, 2014, 02:59:49 AM
Quality play needed from Soca Warriors.
By Alvin Corneal (Guardian).


The feeling of playing in a final sporting event could hardly ever be described in just a few words, regardless of what sport it is and where it is played.

The grandiose plans to play in tonight’s final against the host Jamaica, should have started just before going to bed last night for the players. The claim of nervousness which so many players tend to feel is literally par for the course by all athletes on the day of a final.

A good night’s rest is even more satisfying if the players are well versed as to the duties to be fulfilled on the field. Follow-up with a hearty breakfast and a morning walk but factors should lead towards the preparation of mental commitment to the event ahead.

I have great belief in players ensuring that the type of studs on the boot are adequate to play in any type of weather.

Having witnessed matches played by both finalists, the picture as to how the game will go, is dependent upon an honest analyst of each player, each game,  and most importantly, strategy to combat the strengths of the opponent.

The Soca Warriors may not have provided the solid organizational formula, but this is sometimes clouded by the brilliance of certain members of this talented team.

Because they have conceded four goals in three matches should indicate that the high priority should be the defensive ploy.

At no time in this tournament did we have a well-coordinated back four line, hence the reason for the soft goals being scored. This is why I believe that the main player in that line should be Daneil Cyrus, for his ability to win the ball in the air or on the ground. He also possesses the speed necessary to reduce the effectiveness of Dane Richards, a feature which the Jamaicans have been banking heavily upon in the previous matches.

The need for solid and aggressive wing defence should make Aubrey David and Joevin Jones committed to these positions, with the emphasis upon defence, rather than making those attacking runs as their preferences.

Khaleem Hyland is the challenging defender located in front of the two central defenders, primarily as a ball winner and a multi task function of moving into attack when the occasion arises.

I would rather see Carlyle Mitchell alongside Cyrus in order to make our defence the most formidable.

We possess in midfield the stability of players whose ability to be part of the cohesive midfield possession game, where control of the game will be achieved.

I expect that Kevin Molino, Lester Peltier, Ataullah Guerra and Hughtun Hector have shown that they are quite capable of forming the “engine” room.

Our skipper Kenwyne Jones has done well enough to be a factor in front, especially when the byline ball will be the catalyst to producing our goals.

Jamaica looked good for 30 minutes of the game against Haiti and rewarded themselves with two goals.

But I see great vulnerability in their defence line, which one expects that the speed and skill of both Peltier and Molino will capitalize.

This game can provide the proof of the outstanding ability of Guerra whose all-round mastery of skill, speed and creativity can be the vehicle of success for the Warriors.

Finally, our main intention of our defenders must be to avoid giving away freekicks in and around the penalty area, neither must they fail to challenge positively for aerial crosses.

Respect for the Jamaicans could be shown, but confidence in ourselves should be reflected in our play.

The Jamaicans may be remembering the final 40 minutes of their encounter against Haiti where they defended for dare life and could easily have succumbed to the Haitian pressure.

The Warriors must remind them of that discomfort as early as the first ten minutes with the expectancy of getting an early goal.

We must fight to retain our dominance in Caribbean football.

Incidentally, for the records, let it be known that T&T won the CFU tournament in the year 1981 when the finals were played in Puerto Rico and the finalists were St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Guadeloupe, T&T and the host country.

T&T lost their away game to Jamaica 2-0 and returned home to beat the reggae boyz 4-0. They went on to defeat Barbados at home and abroad, draw with Suriname in Paramaribo and beat them at Skinner Park 4-2 to reach the finals in Puerto Rico.

It is yours for the taking, Warriors, and you can make us all proud.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: trini_stallion on November 19, 2014, 04:37:54 AM
We took the Jamaicans to pk's in a final at the office...that in itself is an accomplishment. Any team that goes there face an uphill task...jamaica stuck to their plan....close down Peltier,  Molino and Jones. ..they did...technically they were better. Sad to lose, yes! But forever positive....we qualify for the Gold cup...made it to the finals...and held our own...well done warriors!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Tallman on November 19, 2014, 06:01:14 AM
We took the Jamaicans to pk's in a final at the office...that in itself is an accomplishment. Any team that goes there face an uphill task...jamaica stuck to their plan....close down Peltier,  Molino and Jones. ..they did...technically they were better. Sad to lose, yes! But forever positive....we qualify for the Gold cup...made it to the finals...and held our own...well done warriors!

Wasn't at de Office. Was in Montego Bay.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Deeks on November 19, 2014, 06:54:57 AM
So allyuh sure Hart will be the coach for the near future?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: CaribKaraoke on November 19, 2014, 07:08:27 AM
I only watched bits and pieces, so from what I saw, the better team won.    Trinidad either was parking the bus or just waiting for a counterattack...at other points both teams and no confidence with the ball.  The announcers said the 'pressure may be getting to them' since many passes went astray and players seemed confused on the ball....if the pressure of a Caribbean Cup Final in Jamaica is getting to Jamaica...or Trinidad...then world cup hopes are dim for each side.  Pressure cannot be a factor in these games.  No concacaf games should have pressure in them.  Both teams have made it to the world cup.  There should be no pressure here except for the first few minutes of nerves.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Dinner Mints on November 19, 2014, 07:19:14 AM
The announcers said the 'pressure may be getting to them' since many passes went astray and players seemed confused on the ball....if the pressure of a Caribbean Cup Final in Jamaica is getting to Jamaica...or Trinidad...then world cup hopes are dim for each side. 
I think both teams was exhausted, personally. Them mistakes and bad balls near the end was tiredness not 'too much pressure.' Is plenty football everybody play in too short a span of time.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Trini _2026 on November 19, 2014, 07:43:11 AM
hope hart/ttfa tries to get nick de leon and others in the mix going foward
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: CaribKaraoke on November 19, 2014, 09:05:52 AM
The announcers said the 'pressure may be getting to them' since many passes went astray and players seemed confused on the ball....if the pressure of a Caribbean Cup Final in Jamaica is getting to Jamaica...or Trinidad...then world cup hopes are dim for each side. 
I think both teams was exhausted, personally. Them mistakes and bad balls near the end was tiredness not 'too much pressure.' Is plenty football everybody play in too short a span of time.

I hope so, was the ball control better at the beginning of the game?  I only watched bits and pieces...and from what I saw, there was no ball control by Trinidad and some control by Jamaica.  The defenders would pass it around a bit, but once it got close to midfield, Trinidad...BOOM KICK....and hope to keep position. 

Trinidad got the skill, but didn't look like they had the patience to build an attack.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: frico on November 19, 2014, 09:42:09 AM
JONES SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUBSTITUTED DURING THE FIRST HALF
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: sjahrain on November 19, 2014, 09:58:46 AM
The time is now to decide if it is ripe to part ways with K J.If we cannot be consistent with crosses to find him in the box,he in my view becomes a liability
I expected to see Gurera before Peltiear because he Gurera is very composed and not easiely rattled
I saw alot to like of my Warriors and also some which indicate major improvements ard required.
We achieved the most important goal,which is a good start but much more could have been accomplished
Thank you,just keep making improvement and the rewards will follow.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: reggae-fan on November 19, 2014, 10:11:21 AM
I'll trade you our two upcoming Copa America Appearances for a chance at the Women's World Cup. Any takers? :)

Fun and jokes aside, I can't say I am surprised at the result in the game last night.  The Jamaicans were superior in the fitness department... even given that the core of the T&T team was heavily rotated throughout the tournament.  I believe also that facing Curacao and to a lesser extend French Guiana in the early rounds somewhat didn't provide a stiff challenge to your guys... in the same way facing Martinique and Haiti did for Jamaica... both Martinique and Haiti I believe are better than Cuba who , prior to Jamaica, was your stiffest opponent all tournament.

Nothing to brag about re Jamaica performance... the squad is weak in many areas, and has potential in others, but lots of football to be played in the coming two years and overall much room for improvement.

Same goes for T&T.

Cuba, Haiti, T&T, Jamaica ... traditionally the better teams in the region came to the fore in the tournament and will represent the region at the Gold cup.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 19, 2014, 10:40:46 AM
I would like to recognise Joevin Jones for converting a crucial penalty yesterday to extend the sequence. Liked him at #4. Although I think any of the kickers at 2, 3 or 4 could be scrambled within that order, Molino for me preferably goes at #1 or #2.

I didn't have Hyland on my list of kickers. KJ? Yes.

5th? Cato.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: King Deese on November 19, 2014, 10:43:36 AM
Ah, Dr. Ah Ah. Any comments?

Yeah.

Last night the operation was a success, the f#%king patient died.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: kaliman2006 on November 19, 2014, 10:56:44 AM
Now that I think about it after the initial disappointment of losing in yet another final, I am glad the Warriors lost.

Insipid, timid football should never be rewarded with victory and our players would start to believe that they can play that sort of dog excrement and expect to win trophies.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Arimaman on November 19, 2014, 11:16:44 AM
I would like to recognise Joevin Jones for converting a crucial penalty yesterday to extend the sequence. Liked him at #4. Although I think any of the kickers at 2, 3 or 4 could be scrambled within that order, Molino for me preferably goes at #1 or #2.

I didn't have Hyland on my list of kickers. KJ? Yes.

5th? Cato.
You guys make me laugh yes..... were you at practice to know who were/are the best kickers?  Otherwise you comment is pointless.....  You think is just so ah man does walk up and take a penalty?  Don't you think they practice these things to identify who are the top 5?  Hilarious   :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socalion on November 19, 2014, 11:44:22 AM
All want to say  is  i am proud   of our team  and   say thankyou to coach stephen  hart for bringing some respectability  to our football again ,  it would take a blind not  to see  some progress has been  made  over the past 18 months and that there's  work still to be done as the coach himself has alluded to !!    much respect to coach stephen hart and  his entire contingent of  players ...!!  best wishes  as we look ahead..!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 19, 2014, 11:47:50 AM
All want to say  is  i am proud   of our team  and   say thankyou to coach stephen  hart for bringing some respectability  to our football again ,  it would take a blind not  to see  some progress has been  made  over the past 18 months and that there's  work still to be done as the coach himself has alluded to !!    much respect to coach stephen hart and  his entire contingent of  players ...!!  best wishes  as we look ahead..!!

This is among only 3 or 4 sensible post match responses in here.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: dreamer on November 19, 2014, 12:22:38 PM
Took a while to post so as to let all emotions settle:

1. Good tactical game and congrats to Ja who is further along in its team development and squad tweaking, unlike T&T which is still at basic squad experimentation.
2. Actually good performance by T&T granted that we had striker crisis with no reliable properly vetted available options to replace a tired looking and probably emotionally weary Jones. No Plaza, Winchester and nobody calling Cornell again. So we were very thin in the striker Dept as Hart was caught off-guard having to submit a squad early.
3. Surprisingly good defensive staying power having to completely change the players. Better than I expected performance by Aubrey David who grew in ratings enough to be called up again. Joevin jones ratings went up big time as a speedy wingback who can hold his own without Cyrus's help . Cyrus just looked a class on his own and can do ANY position in the back. Solid from Hoyte. All this in Jamaica without Marshall and Mitchell. Impressive but lots of room for improvement, which will happen.
4. Good stuff from Molino, too little time for Guerra but I understand that Hart was focusing on defending till a critical time. It almost worked. Solid stuff by Hyland who showed why he us so important against tough opponents. The yellow put a li'l spoke in his wheel. Midfield needs Guerra in it with Molino at the same time and we need to find one more explosive midfielder to replace Guerra when he is tired after being used as a starter.
5. Hope to see in action Plaza & Rundell soon. Hope to see more of what Glenn can do.
6. Great and improved looking Jan who looked sharp & almost impenetrable and high quality yesterday.
7. Good job Hart with the hand that he was dealt.
8. Actually enjoyed listening to Angus Eve even if he has a green verb habit.
9. Good fight by the players who were distracted by the reimbursement drama and thanks for making history by getting paid via some well thought out tactical moves. Hope to see you all again and Hart build this side some more for the upcoming Gold Cup. I was really into this build up and thank you for the thrill of the event.
 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Spursy on November 19, 2014, 12:37:29 PM
Love our coach though. Under his guidance tnt always have a plan. If Guerra had buried that or Molino we would be singing a different tune, we had our chances, it just wasn't our night. i am sure the coach will sort things out for the Gold Cup and it will be fun to watch tnt face some of the big gunz in the region.

Look on the bright side, it's not like before where we losing to Guyana at home, be careful who's head you call for when you don't know what head you going to replace it with.
bro i don't think we will have the same coach come next week. on another note, i would rather lose to haiti or antigua these people have class.   i can't stand losing to these people. hawk too

I understand you are upset. Please refrain from insulting our opponents on these boards. Its ok we all hurt about the loss, we had chances to win and we must accept the result and move on.

Edit: I am editing your post and removing those comments please be more careful in the future.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socalion on November 19, 2014, 12:56:56 PM
nice observations dreamer.....In addition i do believe from here on   its absolutely necessary to  impliment  the  necessary programs for our national teams !!  consistency is lacking !!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: socalion on November 19, 2014, 01:02:58 PM
Reggaefan   congrats  to j.a  your win  !!   
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: FireBrand on November 19, 2014, 01:03:45 PM
hope hart/ttfa tries to get nick de leon and others in the mix going foward

I highly endorse this.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 19, 2014, 01:07:44 PM
I would like to recognise Joevin Jones for converting a crucial penalty yesterday to extend the sequence. Liked him at #4. Although I think any of the kickers at 2, 3 or 4 could be scrambled within that order, Molino for me preferably goes at #1 or #2.

I didn't have Hyland on my list of kickers. KJ? Yes.

5th? Cato.
You guys make me laugh yes..... were you at practice to know who were/are the best kickers?  Otherwise you comment is pointless.....  You think is just so ah man does walk up and take a penalty?  Don't you think they practice these things to identify who are the top 5?  Hilarious   :rotfl: :rotfl:

Leh me see if I can help yuh get serious ... Normally you have better judgement, but I'm going to walk you through this with the respect you deserve.

First off, there's nothing in my comment to indicate an issue with who kicked last night, or that the outcome would have been different, but for X or Y. The fact is there were 11 players on the field at the conclusion of play, and from those 11 players (Williams, Hoyte, David, Cyrus, Jones, George, Hyland, Cato, Molino, Guerra and Jones ), I weighed in with 5 available candidates (underlined) to kick.

I shouldn't have to point out to you that our 5 "best" kickers were not necessarily on the field at the conclusion of the supplemental 30 minutes. I do not think all of our best penalty kick takers were on the field at the conclusion of the game. Thus, it didn't come down to the best kickers, but the best from the lot on the field. HOWEVER, I have NO issue with that because given the conditions of the game, the game wasn't poised in a manner such that ensuring specialist kickers be on the field prioritized/prematurely would have been the correct call. In our right, we made a push to secure the game prior to 90+ and again prior to 120'. That was what should have been done. It jes didn't work out (ask Guerra).

I think 3 very credible spot kickers in Molino, Guerra and J. Jones were on the field. Although KJ has converted emphatic powered penalties, he was by no means having the game of his life. However, he was on my list given the occasion, his experience, his leadership, his expressed passion for wanting to win the Cup, and the fact that having made it to minute 120, I was of the view he would be kicking one way or the other.

Thus, the real challenge for me was the 5th name. For the 5th name on the list, I regarded the contenders as Hyland, Cyrus and Cato. I went with Cato, and, frankly, (in the interest of providing you a further giggle) Cyrus finished ahead of Hyland in my assessment. I did not, and do not regard Hyland and Jones as qualitatively different kickers ... either stylistically or in their approach to the settled ball.

Perhaps you take specific issue with the specific exclusion of Hyland? Who knows? I also excluded Williams, Hoyte, David, George and Cyrus. Nothing personal.

To assert transparently that I had Jones on my list (and he missed) but not Khaleem (and he missed), is really a matter of me sharing/posting a personal, considered assessment. There's no agenda. And, if you've been paying attention ... not a first-time comment on penalties (which I hold the view are not as randomized as some assert) … and research/literature supports me on this.

I don't know what methodology was employed to select the 5 ... do you? Practice is an influential environment, but it isn't always absolutely controlling or definitive. Also, it isn't uncommon in the international arena to have a cohort of possible kickers, but then to have kickers self-select from within this cohort. When you factor in that not all of the cohort is necessarily on the field when ideally needed ... perhaps some light is shed on your comment actually being less sustainable than you seem to regard it. Moreover, it also depends on whether the coach is authoritarian in saying x, y, or b will kick ... based on preference and observation ... or whether he is more democratic.

From time to time, I manage to pull myself away from the keyboard, and get out to witness players in their natural habitat. I'm fully aware of the variables.

Five (5) kickers from 11 on the field had to be chosen. Above, I expressed who I thought would be kicking prior to viewing who actually kicked. This is not Monday morning quarterbacking. As it turns out 4 out of my 5 kicked.  Under any assessment, that’s a solid return.

And guess what? The focus is on who would kick, not on whether they would actually convert.

Even had Hyland converted I would have shared he wasn't on my list to kick. Would we still be having this conversation?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 19, 2014, 01:17:07 PM
Took a while to post so as to let all emotions settle:

1. Good tactical game and congrats to Ja who is further along in its team development and squad tweaking, unlike T&T which is still at basic squad experimentation.
2. Actually good performance by T&T granted that we had striker crisis with no reliable properly vetted available options to replace a tired looking and probably emotionally weary Jones. No Plaza, Winchester and nobody calling Cornell again. So we were very thin in the striker Dept as Hart was caught off-guard having to submit a squad early.
3. Surprisingly good defensive staying power having to completely change the players. Better than I expected performance by Aubrey David who grew in ratings enough to be called up again. Joevin jones ratings went up big time as a speedy wingback who can hold his own without Cyrus's help . Cyrus just looked a class on his own and can do ANY position in the back. Solid from Hoyte. All this in Jamaica without Marshall and Mitchell. Impressive but lots of room for improvement, which will happen.
4. Good stuff from Molino, too little time for Guerra but I understand that Hart was focusing on defending till a critical time. It almost worked. Solid stuff by Hyland who showed why he us so important against tough opponents. The yellow put a li'l spoke in his wheel. Midfield needs Guerra in it with Molino at the same time and we need to find one more explosive midfielder to replace Guerra when he is tired after being used as a starter.
5. Hope to see in action Plaza & Rundell soon. Hope to see more of what Glenn can do.
6. Great and improved looking Jan who looked sharp & almost impenetrable and high quality yesterday.
7. Good job Hart with the hand that he was dealt.
8. Actually enjoyed listening to Angus Eve even if he has a green verb habit.

9. Good fight by the players who were distracted by the reimbursement drama and thanks for making history by getting paid via some well thought out tactical moves. Hope to see you all again and Hart build this side some more for the upcoming Gold Cup. I was really into this build up and thank you for the thrill of the event.

Good stuff 1-9 ... ah will deal wid 8 only doh ... ah eh know why Banter B doh give Eve credit for rendering a decent contribution. Thanks eh, Angus!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bakes on November 19, 2014, 01:35:48 PM
I understand you are upset. Please refrain from insulting our opponents on these boards. Its ok we all hurt about the loss, we had chances to win and we must accept the result and move on.

Edit: I am editing your post and removing those comments please be more careful in the future.

It eh take yuh long at all tuh find yuh moderator hat  :Police:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Spursy on November 19, 2014, 01:37:54 PM
Bakes with
I understand you are upset. Please refrain from insulting our opponents on these boards. Its ok we all hurt about the loss, we had chances to win and we must accept the result and move on.

Edit: I am editing your post and removing those comments please be more careful in the future.

It eh take yuh long at all tuh find yuh moderator hat  :Police:

With posters like you and the regulars, there isn't much (if any)Police work to do! You guys are awesome.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on November 19, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
Bakes with
I understand you are upset. Please refrain from insulting our opponents on these boards. Its ok we all hurt about the loss, we had chances to win and we must accept the result and move on.

Edit: I am editing your post and removing those comments please be more careful in the future.

It eh take yuh long at all tuh find yuh moderator hat  :Police:

With posters like you and the regulars, there isn't much (if any)Police work to do! You guys are awesome.

Shotta de ass kissin moderator?!  :rotfl:

Yuh better dan tiredsis aready in my book  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Spursy on November 19, 2014, 01:41:11 PM
 :beermug:  :rotfl:

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Bakes on November 19, 2014, 01:49:27 PM
Shotta de ass kissin moderator?!  :rotfl:

Yuh better dan tiredsis aready in my book  :beermug:

Tireasis sweet talk Flex... den fire de wuk after 3 months   ;D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: MilkyX on November 19, 2014, 02:21:46 PM
We took the Jamaicans to pk's in a final at the office...that in itself is an accomplishment. Any team that goes there face an uphill task...jamaica stuck to their plan....close down Peltier,  Molino and Jones. ..they did...technically they were better. Sad to lose, yes! But forever positive....we qualify for the Gold cup...made it to the finals...and held our own...well done warriors!

Wasn't at de Office. Was in Montego Bay.
Wait....wait...wait. Taking JAMAICA to a penalty shootout is an accomplishment? WHAT! Are we going in reverse here? Winning (not qualifying for) the Gold cup = accomplishment. Qualifying for a world cup = accomplishment. What happened in that game = embarrassment! First off, the Soca warriors played garbage and Jamaica still needed penalties to beat them. Doesn't say much for Jamaica if you ask me  Second, we didn't take them to a penalty shootout. You making Jamaica sound like Argentina or something. If T&T showed any of the quality that they are cable of, they would be champions right now. It was one of the worse games I've seen them play under Hart. And third...KJ......oh lord...just typing his initials gives me a headache. Please sir. Ah begging. Just learn to control the ball. Just a little bit. Please. PLEASE.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Peong on November 19, 2014, 03:37:57 PM
Our midfield play was poor for long periods.  Our defense got opened up too many times.
We had no shots on target after 120 mins.
The home crowd wasn't a factor, they seemed quiet most of the time.
All that said, Guerra was about a foot away from giving us the trophy.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 19, 2014, 03:42:13 PM
So where do our MNT go from here???
to the gold cup obviously. im not unhappy we lost as much as im unhappy that we were out played in the final attacking third by a mediocre team, not one shot at the keeper which is beyond embarrassing.
Yes I know we're going to the GC but I'm looking at the bigger picture in terms of if the players will be willing to com back and play under the current TTFA administration.
as long as hart is coach. that is what i gathered from jonsey's words in his pre match interview that they are behind the coach all the way. in the grand scheme of things these boys needs international football as more than international football needs them, after all who in their right minds would jeopardize their career like that.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 19, 2014, 03:49:14 PM
I'll trade you our two upcoming Copa America Appearances for a chance at the Women's World Cup. Any takers? :)

Fun and jokes aside, I can't say I am surprised at the result in the game last night.  The Jamaicans were superior in the fitness department... even given that the core of the T&T team was heavily rotated throughout the tournament.  I believe also that facing Curacao and to a lesser extend French Guiana in the early rounds somewhat didn't provide a stiff challenge to your guys... in the same way facing Martinique and Haiti did for Jamaica... both Martinique and Haiti I believe are better than Cuba who , prior to Jamaica, was your stiffest opponent all tournament.

Nothing to brag about re Jamaica performance... the squad is weak in many areas, and has potential in others, but lots of football to be played in the coming two years and overall much room for improvement.

Same goes for T&T.

Cuba, Haiti, T&T, Jamaica ... traditionally the better teams in the region came to the fore in the tournament and will represent the region at the Gold cup.
you mean the same french guiana and cuba who whiped and kicked you out of the last gold cup in antigua? oh i see easily we forget.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: reggae-fan on November 19, 2014, 03:58:45 PM
I'll trade you our two upcoming Copa America Appearances for a chance at the Women's World Cup. Any takers? :)

Fun and jokes aside, I can't say I am surprised at the result in the game last night.  The Jamaicans were superior in the fitness department... even given that the core of the T&T team was heavily rotated throughout the tournament.  I believe also that facing Curacao and to a lesser extend French Guiana in the early rounds somewhat didn't provide a stiff challenge to your guys... in the same way facing Martinique and Haiti did for Jamaica... both Martinique and Haiti I believe are better than Cuba who , prior to Jamaica, was your stiffest opponent all tournament.

Nothing to brag about re Jamaica performance... the squad is weak in many areas, and has potential in others, but lots of football to be played in the coming two years and overall much room for improvement.

Same goes for T&T.

Cuba, Haiti, T&T, Jamaica ... traditionally the better teams in the region came to the fore in the tournament and will represent the region at the Gold cup.
you mean the same french guiana and cuba who whiped and kicked you out of the last gold cup in antigua? oh i see easily we forget.


Fast forward to 2014 please sir :)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 19, 2014, 04:04:43 PM
Love our coach though. Under his guidance tnt always have a plan. If Guerra had buried that or Molino we would be singing a different tune, we had our chances, it just wasn't our night. i am sure the coach will sort things out for the Gold Cup and it will be fun to watch tnt face some of the big gunz in the region.

Look on the bright side, it's not like before where we losing to Guyana at home, be careful who's head you call for when you don't know what head you going to replace it with.
bro i don't think we will have the same coach come next week. on another note, i would rather lose to haiti or antigua these people have class.   i can't stand losing to these people. hawk too

I understand you are upset. Please refrain from insulting our opponents on these boards. Its ok we all hurt about the loss, we had chances to win and we must accept the result and move on.

Edit: I am editing your post and removing those comments please be more careful in the future.
are you serious dude, what did i say that was so offensive or inflammatory? did you see how their team captain snubbed timmkee on the stand and his federation boss had to check him, did you see how the guy slapped away molinos hand when he showed a bit of sportsmanship and the comments of their team captain after the game? please it seems like you wants to usurp your authority on me, in that case i would rather stop posting than to be silenced like im on a communist site. i went to the TRB site and have seen worst so you could stay there with your jamaican infatuation, i for one don't care for them because they are rude and discourteous and that's my choice.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 19, 2014, 04:20:50 PM
I'll trade you our two upcoming Copa America Appearances for a chance at the Women's World Cup. Any takers? :)

Fun and jokes aside, I can't say I am surprised at the result in the game last night.  The Jamaicans were superior in the fitness department... even given that the core of the T&T team was heavily rotated throughout the tournament.  I believe also that facing Curacao and to a lesser extend French Guiana in the early rounds somewhat didn't provide a stiff challenge to your guys... in the same way facing Martinique and Haiti did for Jamaica... both Martinique and Haiti I believe are better than Cuba who , prior to Jamaica, was your stiffest opponent all tournament.

Nothing to brag about re Jamaica performance... the squad is weak in many areas, and has potential in others, but lots of football to be played in the coming two years and overall much room for improvement.

Same goes for T&T.

Cuba, Haiti, T&T, Jamaica ... traditionally the better teams in the region came to the fore in the tournament and will represent the region at the Gold cup.
you mean the same french guiana and cuba who whiped and kicked you out of the last gold cup in antigua? oh i see easily we forget.


Fast forward to 2014 please sir :)
in that case french guina was a batter team than last year only because they had 9 french internationals in their ranks as opposed to 4 last time around so it's even more relevant. by the way you're carrying on anyone would swear that jamaica drobbed us well and proper. please..... you guys played with four defenders glued to the 18 yard box and on your own home field, and if we had a proper referee you would have been down to 9 players come full time that's because you fouled the dickens out of hector molino and jones combined while mattocks and mc annuf had loads of room on the ball yet you couldn't get it done from open play. man stop your noise you were just as crappy as us, but there will be other times like the gold cup. lets see what you've got outside of your home field advantage.

by the way what was that mess of a cow pasture that you call a stadium? i saw a ball ran away from jones in thee middle of the field on the edge of that huge ring worm mark, what the hell was that? it was the worst field i've ever seen and believe me i've seen some horrible pitches but this one takes the cake. maybe you could take that 100,000 and fix that disaster of a field.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: soccerman on November 19, 2014, 04:31:06 PM
Took a while to post so as to let all emotions settle:

1. Good tactical game and congrats to Ja who is further along in its team development and squad tweaking, unlike T&T which is still at basic squad experimentation.
2. Actually good performance by T&T granted that we had striker crisis with no reliable properly vetted available options to replace a tired looking and probably emotionally weary Jones. No Plaza, Winchester and nobody calling Cornell again. So we were very thin in the striker Dept as Hart was caught off-guard having to submit a squad early.
3. Surprisingly good defensive staying power having to completely change the players. Better than I expected performance by Aubrey David who grew in ratings enough to be called up again. Joevin jones ratings went up big time as a speedy wingback who can hold his own without Cyrus's help . Cyrus just looked a class on his own and can do ANY position in the back. Solid from Hoyte. All this in Jamaica without Marshall and Mitchell. Impressive but lots of room for improvement, which will happen.
4. Good stuff from Molino, too little time for Guerra but I understand that Hart was focusing on defending till a critical time. It almost worked. Solid stuff by Hyland who showed why he us so important against tough opponents. The yellow put a li'l spoke in his wheel. Midfield needs Guerra in it with Molino at the same time and we need to find one more explosive midfielder to replace Guerra when he is tired after being used as a starter.
5. Hope to see in action Plaza & Rundell soon. Hope to see more of what Glenn can do.
6. Great and improved looking Jan who looked sharp & almost impenetrable and high quality yesterday.
7. Good job Hart with the hand that he was dealt.
8. Actually enjoyed listening to Angus Eve even if he has a green verb habit.
9. Good fight by the players who were distracted by the reimbursement drama and thanks for making history by getting paid via some well thought out tactical moves. Hope to see you all again and Hart build this side some more for the upcoming Gold Cup. I was really into this build up and thank you for the thrill of the event.
I thought our defense played well, that was one of the better performances I've seen from our backline. Defense used to be our waekness now it's steadily improving under Hart. I like Cyrus as a central defender as well, he was outstanding.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Deeks on November 19, 2014, 05:23:56 PM
Despite being bitterly disappointed with the team,s performance, Jan and the defense did very well. Jan made a crucial save in the first half and the defense held their own. They were getting all the lash from we in the beginning, but they redeemed themselves in the final. Cyrus eh easy Breds. With good coaching and guidance, he can be one of TT finest stoppers.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: reggae-fan on November 19, 2014, 05:44:46 PM
I'll trade you our two upcoming Copa America Appearances for a chance at the Women's World Cup. Any takers? :)

Fun and jokes aside, I can't say I am surprised at the result in the game last night.  The Jamaicans were superior in the fitness department... even given that the core of the T&T team was heavily rotated throughout the tournament.  I believe also that facing Curacao and to a lesser extend French Guiana in the early rounds somewhat didn't provide a stiff challenge to your guys... in the same way facing Martinique and Haiti did for Jamaica... both Martinique and Haiti I believe are better than Cuba who , prior to Jamaica, was your stiffest opponent all tournament.

Nothing to brag about re Jamaica performance... the squad is weak in many areas, and has potential in others, but lots of football to be played in the coming two years and overall much room for improvement.

Same goes for T&T.

Cuba, Haiti, T&T, Jamaica ... traditionally the better teams in the region came to the fore in the tournament and will represent the region at the Gold cup.
you mean the same french guiana and cuba who whiped and kicked you out of the last gold cup in antigua? oh i see easily we forget.


Fast forward to 2014 please sir :)
in that case french guina was a batter team than last year only because they had 9 french internationals in their ranks as opposed to 4 last time around so it's even more relevant. by the way you're carrying on anyone would swear that jamaica drobbed us well and proper. please..... you guys played with four defenders glued to the 18 yard box and on your own home field, and if we had a proper referee you would have been down to 9 players come full time that's because you fouled the dickens out of hector molino and jones combined while mattocks and mc annuf had loads of room on the ball yet you couldn't get it done from open play. man stop your noise you were just as crappy as us, but there will be other times like the gold cup. lets see what you've got outside of your home field advantage.

by the way what was that mess of a cow pasture that you call a stadium? i saw a ball ran away from jones in thee middle of the field on the edge of that huge ring worm mark, what the hell was that? it was the worst field i've ever seen and believe me i've seen some horrible pitches but this one takes the cake. maybe you could take that 100,000 and fix that disaster of a field.

I don't believe anyone will disagree with you on the state of the field...  considering that over a dozen games were played on the same surface in the past week... its hardly a surprise, I am sure you will agree.  Unfortunately Jamaica doesn't have the volume of government run facilities like you have in t&t...in much the same way our players are not paid by the central government like yours.  Nothing comes easy for us as a people, we have to fight for what is ours, and despite the obstacles, we manage to rise above and achieve well beyond our means.  Consider yourself fortunate, and save a prayer for the less fortunate Jamaicans, Haitians and Cubans with limited resources.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 19, 2014, 05:50:15 PM
I'll trade you our two upcoming Copa America Appearances for a chance at the Women's World Cup. Any takers? :)

Fun and jokes aside, I can't say I am surprised at the result in the game last night.  The Jamaicans were superior in the fitness department... even given that the core of the T&T team was heavily rotated throughout the tournament.  I believe also that facing Curacao and to a lesser extend French Guiana in the early rounds somewhat didn't provide a stiff challenge to your guys... in the same way facing Martinique and Haiti did for Jamaica... both Martinique and Haiti I believe are better than Cuba who , prior to Jamaica, was your stiffest opponent all tournament.

Nothing to brag about re Jamaica performance... the squad is weak in many areas, and has potential in others, but lots of football to be played in the coming two years and overall much room for improvement.

Same goes for T&T.

Cuba, Haiti, T&T, Jamaica ... traditionally the better teams in the region came to the fore in the tournament and will represent the region at the Gold cup.
you mean the same french guiana and cuba who whiped and kicked you out of the last gold cup in antigua? oh i see easily we forget.


Fast forward to 2014 please sir :)
in that case french guina was a batter team than last year only because they had 9 french internationals in their ranks as opposed to 4 last time around so it's even more relevant. by the way you're carrying on anyone would swear that jamaica drobbed us well and proper. please..... you guys played with four defenders glued to the 18 yard box and on your own home field, and if we had a proper referee you would have been down to 9 players come full time that's because you fouled the dickens out of hector molino and jones combined while mattocks and mc annuf had loads of room on the ball yet you couldn't get it done from open play. man stop your noise you were just as crappy as us, but there will be other times like the gold cup. lets see what you've got outside of your home field advantage.

by the way what was that mess of a cow pasture that you call a stadium? i saw a ball ran away from jones in thee middle of the field on the edge of that huge ring worm mark, what the hell was that? it was the worst field i've ever seen and believe me i've seen some horrible pitches but this one takes the cake. maybe you could take that 100,000 and fix that disaster of a field.

I don't believe anyone will disagree with you on the state of the field...  considering that over a dozen games were played on the same surface in the past week... its hardly a surprise.
don't come with that, the field was in that condition from game one especially with the ring worm mark in the meddle of the pitch and it was an appalling distraction which the players avoided. excuses excuses.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: reggae-fan on November 19, 2014, 06:12:35 PM
I'll trade you our two upcoming Copa America Appearances for a chance at the Women's World Cup. Any takers? :)

Fun and jokes aside, I can't say I am surprised at the result in the game last night.  The Jamaicans were superior in the fitness department... even given that the core of the T&T team was heavily rotated throughout the tournament.  I believe also that facing Curacao and to a lesser extend French Guiana in the early rounds somewhat didn't provide a stiff challenge to your guys... in the same way facing Martinique and Haiti did for Jamaica... both Martinique and Haiti I believe are better than Cuba who , prior to Jamaica, was your stiffest opponent all tournament.

Nothing to brag about re Jamaica performance... the squad is weak in many areas, and has potential in others, but lots of football to be played in the coming two years and overall much room for improvement.

Same goes for T&T.

Cuba, Haiti, T&T, Jamaica ... traditionally the better teams in the region came to the fore in the tournament and will represent the region at the Gold cup.
you mean the same french guiana and cuba who whiped and kicked you out of the last gold cup in antigua? oh i see easily we forget.


Fast forward to 2014 please sir :)
in that case french guina was a batter team than last year only because they had 9 french internationals in their ranks as opposed to 4 last time around so it's even more relevant. by the way you're carrying on anyone would swear that jamaica drobbed us well and proper. please..... you guys played with four defenders glued to the 18 yard box and on your own home field, and if we had a proper referee you would have been down to 9 players come full time that's because you fouled the dickens out of hector molino and jones combined while mattocks and mc annuf had loads of room on the ball yet you couldn't get it done from open play. man stop your noise you were just as crappy as us, but there will be other times like the gold cup. lets see what you've got outside of your home field advantage.

by the way what was that mess of a cow pasture that you call a stadium? i saw a ball ran away from jones in thee middle of the field on the edge of that huge ring worm mark, what the hell was that? it was the worst field i've ever seen and believe me i've seen some horrible pitches but this one takes the cake. maybe you could take that 100,000 and fix that disaster of a field.

I don't believe anyone will disagree with you on the state of the field...  considering that over a dozen games were played on the same surface in the past week... its hardly a surprise.
don't come with that, the field was in that condition from game one especially with the ring worm mark in the meddle of the pitch and it was an appalling distraction which the players avoided. excuses excuses.
alright boss, I agree, surface was horrible.  We on the same page.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: pull stones on November 19, 2014, 06:24:47 PM
I'll trade you our two upcoming Copa America Appearances for a chance at the Women's World Cup. Any takers? :)

Fun and jokes aside, I can't say I am surprised at the result in the game last night.  The Jamaicans were superior in the fitness department... even given that the core of the T&T team was heavily rotated throughout the tournament.  I believe also that facing Curacao and to a lesser extend French Guiana in the early rounds somewhat didn't provide a stiff challenge to your guys... in the same way facing Martinique and Haiti did for Jamaica... both Martinique and Haiti I believe are better than Cuba who , prior to Jamaica, was your stiffest opponent all tournament.

Nothing to brag about re Jamaica performance... the squad is weak in many areas, and has potential in others, but lots of football to be played in the coming two years and overall much room for improvement.

Same goes for T&T.

Cuba, Haiti, T&T, Jamaica ... traditionally the better teams in the region came to the fore in the tournament and will represent the region at the Gold cup.
you mean the same french guiana and cuba who whiped and kicked you out of the last gold cup in antigua? oh i see easily we forget.


Fast forward to 2014 please sir :)
in that case french guina was a batter team than last year only because they had 9 french internationals in their ranks as opposed to 4 last time around so it's even more relevant. by the way you're carrying on anyone would swear that jamaica drobbed us well and proper. please..... you guys played with four defenders glued to the 18 yard box and on your own home field, and if we had a proper referee you would have been down to 9 players come full time that's because you fouled the dickens out of hector molino and jones combined while mattocks and mc annuf had loads of room on the ball yet you couldn't get it done from open play. man stop your noise you were just as crappy as us, but there will be other times like the gold cup. lets see what you've got outside of your home field advantage.

by the way what was that mess of a cow pasture that you call a stadium? i saw a ball ran away from jones in thee middle of the field on the edge of that huge ring worm mark, what the hell was that? it was the worst field i've ever seen and believe me i've seen some horrible pitches but this one takes the cake. maybe you could take that 100,000 and fix that disaster of a field.

I don't believe anyone will disagree with you on the state of the field...  considering that over a dozen games were played on the same surface in the past week... its hardly a surprise.
don't come with that, the field was in that condition from game one especially with the ring worm mark in the meddle of the pitch and it was an appalling distraction which the players avoided. excuses excuses.
alright boss, I agree, surface was horrible.  We on the same page.
don't look at me, i wasn't the one arguing.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: maxg on November 19, 2014, 07:42:41 PM
remembering Just Cool   :devil:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on November 19, 2014, 08:26:28 PM
I only watched the second half and extra time and i have to say the better team won. We did have 2 of the best chances with Cyrus & Guerra late in the 2nd half but i really think Jamaica was in control. I feel like we are suffering from a similar problem as Brazil albeit with obviously inferior players. There was alot of talk of Molino being the next Latapy and i just dont see it. Not because Molino is a bad player but because they are different players. Molino has become a supporting striker like a Neymar which he is good at. But he is not a true playmaker. Hart actually said this earlier. He said Molino is a good modern striker. The biggest thing to me is we lack a quality transition MF to bring the ball from the back 4 to the front 4.  Hyland used to do this but i guess like lack of playing time has effected him alot. I watched him in a Europa League game vs stuttgard 2 years ago and he was excellent at this. Taking the ball from the back 4 and spraying passes around which started the attack. I think our CMFs really lack technical ability. Boucard, George work hard but are limited. Maybe they can convince DeLeon to join the squad because he played there with DC at times this season and did ok there. But i still feel like there were positives in this tournament and the most important thing is to make sure Hart continues as the coach.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Jamaica Game (18-Nov-2014)
Post by: Spursy on November 20, 2014, 03:43:09 PM
Coach Hart, Eve share mixed feelings

By JONATHAN RAMNANANSINGH Thursday, November 20 2014

STEPHEN HART, coach of the Trinidad and Tobago “Soca Warriors”, shared mixed feelings after his team’s 4-3 penalty-kick Caribbean Cup Finals loss at the hands of a visibly better Jamaican outfit when the competition climaxed at the Montego Bay Sports Club, Jamaica, on Tuesday night.

The unsettling result saw the squad, captained by Kenwyne Jones, miss out on a golden opportunity to secure a place in the 2016 Copa Continental Cup (Copa America) which will now feature the regional presence of the Jamaicans going up against some of South America’s top-flight teams. This was the second consecutive runner-up finish for TT after losing 1-0 to Cuba in the 2012 final.

Though daunted by Tuesday’s night’s loss, Hart still congratulated his players on their achievements and anticipates a bright future for national football.

After the match, there was disappointment all around the TT dressing room and at the team hotel. However, Hart sat down with his prospects and insisted that they must take the experience with them and use it to their benefit going forward.

“It was not the result any of us wanted but as a team and as the coach of the team I thought the overall match was a good measuring stick for us and a good one for us as it relates to our preparations for playing World Cup qualifying matches away from home in a few months,” Hart said.

The former Canadian coach revealed that he was proud of the way the players handled the conditions throughout the competition. He admitted that the TT team may have not been as impressive as compared to previous matches but still hailed the Jamaicans for their better display in the same breath.

“Maybe the fans back home deserved to see a better game but this was a final against the hosts and Jamaica being a team with an impressive home record, it was never going to be an easy contest. And the game showed us that. There were some good moments for us and particularly near the end when we could have stolen it with a late winner. This is exactly what we are going to face when we are on the road for our World Cup qualifiers,” Hart added. As he looked back at the game, Hart stressed the need for more international games for the country. Another factor highlighted by seasoned coach was that the Soca Warriors had a heavy schedule of four games in eight days which may have suppressed their energies going into Tuesday’s final.

“We just didn’t get our rhythm going and most of the times we lacked that final telling ball that could have created more scoring chances for us. I’m not making any excuses but the schedule of four games in eight days didn’t help us and yes Jamaica showed more energy than us at times but they were at home and several of their players are playing ninety minutes of top flight football every week, Some of our players are not getting that at the moment and it’s something we will look at and work on,” he added.

“And of course we have to get a regular schedule of training camps and warm up matches if we are to find ourselves in a position where we can safely maintain a high level or consistent level of play for long periods,” Hart said.

Delivering a similar opinion yesterday was former national captain Angus Eve, who was an analyst during the live broadcasts of the latter matches for the Jamaican sports channel Sportsmax for the final. Eve credited the TT’s defensive strategy but indicated that the team lacked the final touch to find the back of the net.

“Credit to Hart and the team for the work leading up to the final,” said Eve yesterday. “Personally, I think we didn’t use the wings as much and Jamaica made sure to take advantage of that. They were all over the midfield and kept command. When it comes down to penalty kicks, it’s a king of lottery sometimes and the Jamaicans showed that they were better on the day.”

Both TT and Jamaica are through to the Concacaf F Gold Cup 2015. Jamaica however, will be present at the 2015 Copa America (by invitation) and the 2016 Centennial Copa America.

TT can still qualify for the 2015 Copa America but will have to do so by finishing among the two play-off winners among the four highest finishers in the 2015 Concacaf Gold Cup not already qualified, or finish winners of the 2015 Gold Cup.

“We’ve made progress. I’m proud of my team. We’ve got work to do but we’re in the Gold Cup so all is not lost. We have some internal problems to be fixed and we’ve got programs to plan and implement. We’ll be fine because we’ve got a capable, committed squad and we also have some players to add who were not in this tournament,” Hart ended.

Source:
http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,203186.html
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