Post by: Jumbie on December 17, 2014, 08:25:51 AM
NEW YORK -- The knockout rounds of next year's CONCACAF Gold Cup will be played in Atlanta, Baltimore and Philadelphia as well as East Rutherford, New Jersey. Part of the tournament will also be played in Canada for the first time.
The United States will open its title defense in the 12-nation championship of North and Central America and the Caribbean on July 7 at Frisco, Texas, CONCACAF announced Tuesday.
The Americans, who are in Group A, play three days later at Foxborough, Massachusetts, and close their first round July 13 at Kansas City, Kansas.
Costa Rica will be in Group B and open July 9 at Carson, California, then play three days later at Houston and July 14 at Toronto.
- CONCACAF Power Rankings: Costa Rica surprise No. 1
In Group C, Mexico starts July 9 at Chicago, plays three days later at Glendale, Arizona, and then July 15 at Charlotte, North Carolina.
The site of the final is to be announced next year. The tournament also includes Canada, Cuba, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Jamaica, Panama and Trinidad and Tobago. The final spot will be determined by a playoff between French Guyana and Honduras on March 25 and 29.
The U.S. won the 2013 title and if it wins next year's tournament will qualify for the 2017 Confederations Cup in Russia. If another nation wins the 2015 Gold Cup, it would meet the Americans in a playoff for the Confederations Cup berth.
Source: http://www.espnfc.us/united-states/story/2203066/concacaf-gold-cup-concacaf-releases-host-cities-list-for-2015-gold-cup
Post by: Banter Banton on March 01, 2015, 03:57:13 PM
Post by: Banter Banton on March 12, 2015, 09:13:58 AM
#GOLDCUP2015 Group Pairings for Group C: #MEX #GUA #TRI #CUB | @miseleccionmx #Guatemala @TTFootballAssoc #Cuba
Post by: Banter Banton on March 12, 2015, 09:15:20 AM
In #GOLDCUP2015 Group B will be #CRC #SLV #JAM #CAN | @FEDEFUTBOL_CR @fesfut_sv @ItsTheJFF @CanadaSoccerEN
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#GOLDCUP2015 Group A will include #USA #PAN #HAI & #HON or #GUF | @USMNT @fepafut @fhfhaiti @FenafuthOrg #FrenchGuiana
Post by: reggae-fan on March 12, 2015, 09:20:31 AM
In #GOLDCUP2015 Group B will be #CRC #SLV #JAM #CAN | @FEDEFUTBOL_CR @fesfut_sv @ItsTheJFF @CanadaSoccerEN
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#GOLDCUP2015 Group A will include #USA #PAN #HAI & #HON or #GUF | @USMNT @fepafut @fhfhaiti @FenafuthOrg #FrenchGuiana
Group A - USA, PAN, HON, Haiti - Tough Group AKA Group Of Death. I dont see French Guiana beating Honduras over two legs...if they do, group will still be a dog-fight between USA, PAN, HAITI . I see USA and PAN taking top two. Honduras is normally good at home and not soo good when playing on foreign soil.
Group C - should be Mexico, and toss-up between T&T and Guatemala for the top two spots. If the Molinos and Jones etc turn up for T&T, then i see mexico and T&T as the top 2.
Group B - I'd say CRC to finish top, second place can be any of JAM/CAN/EL SAL. This appears a tough group as well on paper. Jamaica will be involved in Copa America around the same time, so may need to choose from a wide pool of players for both tourneys.
Post by: Banter Banton on March 12, 2015, 09:25:50 AM
2 best 3rd spots available, I'm sure one of Panama or Honduras will sneak 1.
Post by: theworm2345 on March 12, 2015, 02:22:37 PM
Post by: Banter Banton on March 12, 2015, 02:33:02 PM
Get 2 friendlies home or away in South America or Concacaf , options include Venezvuela, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Honduras.
It is pointless playing physical styled opposition such as European, African teams as the only teams that compare to them in Concacaf are Jamaica, USA and Canada.
We should use our windows vs those Latin style teams to really get to grips on how to win vs that style and also play away games to get used to the intimidating atmosphere that will only magnify throughout qualification
Post by: Banter Banton on March 12, 2015, 02:47:42 PM
GK: Jan Michael Williams, Marvin Phillips, Adrian Foncette,
DEF: Justin Hoyte, Gavin Hoyte, Joevin Jones, Carlyle Mitchell, Randafah Abu Bakr, Daneil Cyrus, Yohance Marshall, Sheldon Bateau
MID: Lester Peltier, Cordell Cato, Hughton Hector, Kevin Molino, Atullah Guerra, Khaleem Hyland, Andre Boucaud, Leston Paul, Kevan George.
ST: Kenwyne Jones, Willis Plaza, Jonathon Glenn
Post by: Flex on March 12, 2015, 03:59:51 PM
GROUP A: USA, Panama, Haiti, Honduras or French Guiana
GROUP B: Costa Rica, El Salvador, Canada, Jamaica
GROUP C: México, Guatemala, Trinidad & Tobago, Cuba
July 7, 2015 (Toyota Stadium - Frisco, TX)
5:00 PM - Group A: Panama vs. Haiti (UDN)
7:30 PM - Group A: USA vs. Honduras/French Guiana (UniMás)
July 8, 2015 (StubHub Center - Carson, CA)
8:00 PM - Group B: Costa Rica vs. Jamaica (UniMás)
10:30 PM - Group B: El Salvador vs. Canada (UniMás)
July 9, 2015 (Soldier Field - Chicago, IL)
7:00 PM - Group C: Trinidad and Tobago vs. Guatemala (UDN)
9:30 PM - Group C: Mexico vs. Cuba (UniMás)
July 10, 2015 (Gillette Stadium - Foxborough, MA)
6:00 PM - Group A: Honduras/French Guiana vs. Panama (UniMás)
8:30 PM - Group A: USA vs. Haiti (UniMás)
July 11, 2015 (BBVA Compass Stadium - Houston, TX)
6:30 PM - Group B: Jamaica vs. Canada (Univision)
9:00 PM - Group B: Costa Rica vs. El Salvador (Univision)
July 12, 2015 (University of Phoenix Stadium - Phoenix, AZ)
6:30 PM - Group C: Trinidad and Tobago vs. Cuba (Univision)
9:00 PM - Group C: Guatemala vs. Mexico (Univision)
July 13, 2015 (Sporting Park - Kansas City, MO)
7:00 PM - Group A: Haiti vs. Honduras/French Guiana (UDN)
9:30 PM - Group A: Panama vs. United States (UniMás)
July 14, 2015 (BMO Field - Toronto, Ontario, Canada)
6:00 PM - Group B: Jamaica vs. El Salvador (UniMás)
8:30 PM - Group B: Canada vs. Costa Rica (UniMás)
July 15, 2015 (Bank of America Stadium - Charlotte, NC)
6:00 PM - Group C: Cuba vs. Guatemala (UniMás)
8:30 PM - Group C: Mexico vs. Trinidad and Tobago (UniMás)
QUARTERFINALS: July 18, 2015 (M&T Bank Stadium - Baltimore, MD)
5:00 PM & 8:00 PM
1A vs. 3B/C* (Univision)
2A vs. 1B* (Univision)
QUARTERFINALS: July 19, 2015 (MetLife Stadium - East Rutherford, NJ)
4:30 PM & 7:30 PM
1C-3A/B*(Univision)
2C-2B*(Univision)
SEMIFINALS: July 22, 2015 (Georgia Dome - Atlanta, GA)
6:00 PM SF 1* (UniMás)
9:00 PM SF 2* (UniMás)
3RD PLACE MATCH: July 25, 2015 (PPL Park - Philadelphia, PA)
4:00 PM 3rd Place (Univision)
FINAL: July 26, 2015 (Lincoln Financial Field - Philadelphia, PA)
7:30 PM Championship Final (Univision)
Post by: fari on March 12, 2015, 07:18:27 PM
Full Details (http://www.socawarriors.net/senior-team-news/15168-t-t-draws-mexico-guatemala-and-cuba-for-2015-gold-cup.html)
GROUP A: USA, Panama, Haiti, Honduras or French Guiana
GROUP B: Costa Rica, El Salvador, Canada, Jamaica
GROUP C: México, Guatemala, Trinidad & Tobago, Cuba
July 7, 2015 (Toyota Stadium - Frisco, TX)
5:00 PM - Group A: Panama vs. Haiti (UDN)
7:30 PM - Group A: USA vs. Honduras/French Guiana (UniMás)
July 8, 2015 (StubHub Center - Carson, CA)
8:00 PM - Group B: Costa Rica vs. Jamaica (UniMás)
10:30 PM - Group B: El Salvador vs. Canada (UniMás)
July 9, 2015 (Soldier Field - Chicago, IL)
7:00 PM - Group C: Trinidad and Tobago vs. Guatemala (UDN)
9:30 PM - Group C: Mexico vs. Cuba (UniMás)
July 10, 2015 (Gillette Stadium - Foxborough, MA)
6:00 PM - Group A: Honduras/French Guiana vs. Panama (UniMás)
8:30 PM - Group A: USA vs. Haiti (UniMás)
July 11, 2015 (BBVA Compass Stadium - Houston, TX)
6:30 PM - Group B: Jamaica vs. Canada (Univision)
9:00 PM - Group B: Costa Rica vs. El Salvador (Univision)
July 12, 2015 (University of Phoenix Stadium - Phoenix, AZ)
6:30 PM - Group C: Trinidad and Tobago vs. Cuba (Univision)
9:00 PM - Group C: Guatemala vs. Mexico (Univision)
July 13, 2015 (Sporting Park - Kansas City, MO)
7:00 PM - Group A: Haiti vs. Honduras/French Guiana (UDN)
9:30 PM - Group A: Panama vs. United States (UniMás)
July 14, 2015 (BMO Field - Toronto, Ontario, Canada)
6:00 PM - Group B: Jamaica vs. El Salvador (UniMás)
8:30 PM - Group B: Canada vs. Costa Rica (UniMás)
July 15, 2015 (Bank of America Stadium - Charlotte, NC)
6:00 PM - Group C: Cuba vs. Guatemala (UniMás)
8:30 PM - Group C: Mexico vs. Trinidad and Tobago (UniMás)
QUARTERFINALS: July 18, 2015 (M&T Bank Stadium - Baltimore, MD)
5:00 PM & 8:00 PM
1A vs. 3B/C* (Univision)
2A vs. 1B* (Univision)
QUARTERFINALS: July 19, 2015 (MetLife Stadium - East Rutherford, NJ)
4:30 PM & 7:30 PM
1C-3A/B*(Univision)
2C-2B*(Univision)
SEMIFINALS: July 22, 2015 (Georgia Dome - Atlanta, GA)
6:00 PM SF 1* (UniMás)
9:00 PM SF 2* (UniMás)
3RD PLACE MATCH: July 25, 2015 (PPL Park - Philadelphia, PA)
4:00 PM 3rd Place (Univision)
FINAL: July 26, 2015 (Lincoln Financial Field - Philadelphia, PA)
7:30 PM Championship Final (Univision)
eh heh? i feel i will try to go that Cuba game...fits my schedule and is on a Sunday to boot
Post by: Flex on March 13, 2015, 01:56:21 AM
T&T Express Reports.
Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s team will open their 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup against Guatemala in Chicago on July 9.
This was determined at the official draw for the competition in Philadelphia which was attended by head coach Stephen Hart.
The Toyota Stadium in the greater Dallas Metroplex will host the opening games of the Gold Cup on Tuesday, July 7, featuring reigning Gold Cup champions United States against the winners of the Honduras vs French Guiana play-in series later this month, preceded by Panama vs Haiti to kick off the evening.
T&T will face the Guatemalans at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9 in the opening match of a Group C double-header which will see Mexico taking on Cuba in the second outing.
T&T then face Cuba on July 12 at the Phoenix Stadium in Phoenix and Mexico on July 15 at the Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte.
Hart who also attended a CONCACAF workshop in Philadelphia yesterday, described T&T’s group as a “tricky” one.
“This is the sixth Gold Cup I will be involved in. My experience is that on paper versus the field are two different matters. The group must be respected and is a tricky one, especially facing Mexico in the last game,” Hart told TTFA Media.
“The opening game is crucial, we must strive for consistency and get into the knockout phase. It is important to prepare well and be in good moments individually and collectively. This is also part of the overall process of preparing for the 2018 World Cup qualification which begins for us in November.
“Between now and July, I will continue have a look at the best available players to make up our squad.
The Panama game this month will be ideal to provide an opportunity for potential players to fight for selection. Obviously I will continue to scout the leagues so the challenge for players is to strive for consistency.
“I expect the tournament to live up to its usual expectations and of course we will give every effort to ensure our performance is a solid one,” Hart added.
For the first time since the 2003 edition, the Gold Cup will feature a third-place match, to be played on Saturday, July 25 at PPL Park — one day prior to the grand finale at the same venue on Philadelphia.
The 2015 Gold Cup quarter-finals will be played in Baltimore’s M&T Bank Stadium and New Jersey’s MetLife Stadium, on Saturday, July 18 and Sunday, July 19, respectively.
The victorious quarter-finalists then move to Atlanta for the semifinals, at the Georgia Dome on Wednesday, July 22, before the tournament’s Grand Finale weekend in Philadelphia.
Post by: Sam on March 13, 2015, 03:38:09 AM
We get a very good group, which group you prefer?
Take care of Guatemala and Cuba and then worry about Mexico.
Post by: Deeks on March 13, 2015, 06:16:04 AM
Post by: Flex on March 13, 2015, 08:59:09 AM
July 9, 2015 (Soldier Field - Chicago, IL)
7:00 PM - Group C: Trinidad and Tobago vs. Guatemala (UDN)
July 12, 2015 (University of Phoenix Stadium - Phoenix, AZ)
6:30 PM - Group C: Trinidad and Tobago vs. Cuba (Univision)
July 15, 2015 (Bank of America Stadium - Charlotte, NC)
8:30 PM - Group C: Mexico vs. Trinidad and Tobago (UniMás)
Post by: weary1969 on March 13, 2015, 10:00:12 AM
Post by: Deeks on March 13, 2015, 10:16:26 AM
Post by: Tallman on March 13, 2015, 08:36:36 PM
In Charlotte, Trinis will be sitting in sections 107 and 108.
CLICK HERE (http://www.ticketmaster.com/CONCACAF-Gold-Cup-tickets/artist/960349) to buy your tickets.
Post by: AB.Trini on March 13, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
Post by: 2cents on March 14, 2015, 11:45:15 AM
You can purchase your tickets NOW by using PROMO code: GC15
In Charlotte, Trinis will be sitting in sections 107 and 108.
CLICK HERE (http://www.ticketmaster.com/CONCACAF-Gold-Cup-tickets/artist/960349) to buy your tickets.
What about Chicago?
Post by: Spursy on March 17, 2015, 04:05:48 PM
Trindiad Express Online Reports
KENWYNE JONES, Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s football skipper, wants Trinidad and Tobago to at least match or better its quarter-final showing at the last CONCACAF Gold Cup.
Stephen Hart’s first assignment as Trinidad and Tobago senior national coach saw the Soca Warriors get out of the group stage and reach the quarter-final stage in the 2013 tournament — a best showing since 2000 when reaching the semi-final stage under Bertille St Clair.
“I think we will be looking to do better than we did last time. Since that last Gold Cup we’ve been through quite a few growing experiences like the games against Argentina, Iran and the Caribbean Cup. I think the team now has grown stronger,” Jones told TTFA Media.
“We will be at least looking to get into the quarter finals again and try to get to the semi finals. We have a good bunch and I know this is what the team will aspire towards,” added the Cardiff City forward.
Jones wants to see T&T aim for a spot in the semi-finals, going a step further than the quarter finals in 2013, where T&T lost 1-0 to Mexico, after drawing 2-2 with El Salvador defeating Honduras 2-0 in its final group match to advance to the knockout phase. Jones believes T&T’s preparations and appearance at the 2015 Gold Cup will play a significant part in the team’s readiness for the Russia 2018 World Cup qualifiers which commence in November at the semi-final stage for the Soca Warriors.
“We have got a decent Group draw and we’ve played these teams before. We’ve been up against them in recent times and we know what they can give, moreso for us having the experience from the squad we had at the last Gold Cup, it should auger well for us,” Jones said. “We may have a few new players but I think our preparations would be good and we will be able to give a good showing at the Gold Cup.”
Hart will begin his preparation for the Gold Cup with a friendly international against Panama in Port of Spain on next week Friday. Hart has hinted that his team to face Panama will be made up largely of home-based professionals, with a few overseas pros in the mix. This is all in an effort to expand the national pool as the team prepares for the 2018 World Cup qualifiers and the Gold Cup campaign.
Like Hart, Jones thinks that the Gold Cup campaign will be great preparation for the untimate goal of preparing Trinidad and Tobago to qualify for its second World Cup, after being on the field in Germany in 2006.
“These games coming up will be another step in preparation for us for the World Cup qualifiers because it’s against similar teams we will play in the qualifiers also,” Jones said.
“From the time M.r Hart took over the team, we have been building and growing since then with focus on the World Cup campaign. Every game we have played since then counts as experience, no matter who the opponent is.”
“It’s a long way through the qualifiers and you need a decent group of players, fit and in form, for the qualifiers. It’s also the first time a lot of the players will be playing in World Cup qualifying and every bit of preparation will serve them well,” Jones concluded.
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BEST SHOWING: t&t skipper Kenwyne Jones
link: http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/Warriors-aiming--for-strong-Gold--Cup-showing-296510711.html
Post by: Sando prince on March 18, 2015, 10:53:50 PM
‘Warriors’ aiming for strong Gold Cup showing
Trindiad Express Online Reports
KENWYNE JONES, Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s football skipper, wants Trinidad and Tobago to at least match or better its quarter-final showing at the last CONCACAF Gold Cup.
Stephen Hart’s first assignment as Trinidad and Tobago senior national coach saw the Soca Warriors get out of the group stage and reach the quarter-final stage in the 2013 tournament — a best showing since 2000 when reaching the semi-final stage under Bertille St Clair.
“I think we will be looking to do better than we did last time. Since that last Gold Cup we’ve been through quite a few growing experiences like the games against Argentina, Iran and the Caribbean Cup. I think the team now has grown stronger,” Jones told TTFA Media.
“We will be at least looking to get into the quarter finals again and try to get to the semi finals. We have a good bunch and I know this is what the team will aspire towards,” added the Cardiff City forward.
Jones wants to see T&T aim for a spot in the semi-finals, going a step further than the quarter finals in 2013, where T&T lost 1-0 to Mexico, after drawing 2-2 with El Salvador defeating Honduras 2-0 in its final group match to advance to the knockout phase. Jones believes T&T’s preparations and appearance at the 2015 Gold Cup will play a significant part in the team’s readiness for the Russia 2018 World Cup qualifiers which commence in November at the semi-final stage for the Soca Warriors.
“We have got a decent Group draw and we’ve played these teams before. We’ve been up against them in recent times and we know what they can give, moreso for us having the experience from the squad we had at the last Gold Cup, it should auger well for us,” Jones said. “We may have a few new players but I think our preparations would be good and we will be able to give a good showing at the Gold Cup.”
Hart will begin his preparation for the Gold Cup with a friendly international against Panama in Port of Spain on next week Friday. Hart has hinted that his team to face Panama will be made up largely of home-based professionals, with a few overseas pros in the mix. This is all in an effort to expand the national pool as the team prepares for the 2018 World Cup qualifiers and the Gold Cup campaign.
Like Hart, Jones thinks that the Gold Cup campaign will be great preparation for the untimate goal of preparing Trinidad and Tobago to qualify for its second World Cup, after being on the field in Germany in 2006.
“These games coming up will be another step in preparation for us for the World Cup qualifiers because it’s against similar teams we will play in the qualifiers also,” Jones said.
“From the time M.r Hart took over the team, we have been building and growing since then with focus on the World Cup campaign. Every game we have played since then counts as experience, no matter who the opponent is.”
“It’s a long way through the qualifiers and you need a decent group of players, fit and in form, for the qualifiers. It’s also the first time a lot of the players will be playing in World Cup qualifying and every bit of preparation will serve them well,” Jones concluded.
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BEST SHOWING: t&t skipper Kenwyne Jones
link: http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/Warriors-aiming--for-strong-Gold--Cup-showing-296510711.html
I really hope KJ dont plan to stand in the box whole game and play diva by waiting for the ball to come exactly to his feet. We had ENOUGH of dem games.
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Post by: truehaitian on March 31, 2015, 11:50:16 AM
Long gone is the time when the nets of the best teams of CONCACAF were simply used for target practice by European and South American teams. Watching the goalkeepers picking up the ball from the back of the nets was a common scene. Fortunately, CONCACAF has risen to become a force that no other confederations can look down upon.
In 1974 at Munich, Poland mercilessly pulverized Haiti 7-0. In 1978, Mexico was lucky to escape the wrath of the like of Karl-Heinz Rummenigge and Heinz Flohe of West Germany with a 6-0 defeat; in 1982, Hungary massacred El Salvador 10-1 in Spain; in 1990, Czechoslovakia severely punished USA 5-1. Scores like those were considered normal for the minnows we were. Despite some spotty good showings of teams like Mexico, Canada, Costa Rica, and Honduras, CONCACAF was generally considered the Cinderella of the world cups, a status they shared with Oceania and sometimes Asia. However, gone is that time when a representative from the CONCACAF region was considered a weak team. CONCACAF football is now at a level where the top 10 teams of the region can hold their own against the traditional powerhouses.
In 1998, their only World Cup appearance thus far, Jamaica became both the smallest nation to score in and the smallest nation to win a World Cup match. Their appearance wasn't spectacular, with a 3-1 loss to Croatia and a 5-0 thumping from Argentina, but they did beat Japan 2-1 in their final game. Jamaica's success with such a small population and such limited resources is impressive. They made it to the final stage of CONCACAF qualifying in this past campaign (one stage further than Canada got), but finished last in the hexagonal round.
Trinidad and Tobago qualified for the 2006 World Cup in Germany, its first-ever qualification for the tournament. They became the smallest country to qualify for the FIFA World Cup in 2006, succeeding Haiti for the title. In Germany, Trinidad and Tobago was grouped with England, Sweden and Paraguay in Group B. The team earned some international respect after a draw with Sweden in their opening game and managing to hold England scoreless for 83 minutes. Trinidad and Tobago finished with their first-ever point from World Cup play after finishing 0–1–2 for the tournament.
In 2013, Haiti took Spain and Italy to deep waters in two high profiles friendlies in Brazil. Spain was pushed to the limit to hold on to its meager 2-1 lead while Italy was lucky to escape with a 2-2 draw. Those results were a prelude to what happened at the World Cup of 2014 where Costa Rica won its group undefeated and in style beating former world champions Italy and Uruguay. USA and Mexico also posted high profile victories over respectable gatekeeper teams like Cameroun, Ghana, and Croatia. CONCACAF was the third most successful confederation behind UEFA and CONMEBOL.
Interestingly, CONCACAF teams keep rising to surpass themselves. In recent international friendlies, CONCACAF teams dominate their opponents from various confederations. On March 27, Haiti traveled to China where it forced the host to work hard for a 2-2 draw while Jamaica overpowered Venezuela with a 2-1 victory. Paraguay, a respectable contender from CONMEBOL, was lucky to escape the Ticos with a 0-0. The following day, El Salvador traveled to the lion den in Argentina where the Cuscatlecos delivered a great fight against the several times world cup titlist and runner-up at the last world cup before losing 2-0 but Mexico quickly brushed that aside with a 1-0 win over Ecuador. Therefore, in two days CONCACAF teams registered 2 victories, 2 draws, and just 1 defeat versus CONMEBOL teams.
The rise of super teams capable of taking on the world traditional powers in all three regions of the confederation will certainly lead to more entertaining and competitive Gold Cup and World Cup qualifying tournaments. In the Caribbean, teams like Jamaica, Haiti, and Trinidad are no-pushovers whereas Central America is home to giant killers like Costa Rica, Honduras, and El Salvador. North America features Mexico and USA, two teams highly respected outside the confederation. The level of play and player skills at the latest U-20 tournament in Jamaica were very remarkable. We have had a glimpse at the stars of tomorrow and we saw them in every team of the tournament. In fact, each country features a number of brilliant youth players who would be on the short lists of any European or South American teams. It is safe to say that CONCACAF football will continue to rise.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 31, 2015, 01:00:30 PM
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Trinidad and Tobago qualified for the 2006 World Cup in Germany, its first-ever qualification for the tournament. They became the smallest country to qualify for the FIFA World Cup in 2006, succeeding Haiti for the title.
Northern Ireland?
Post by: gawd on pitch on March 31, 2015, 02:29:36 PM
QuoteTrinidad and Tobago qualified for the 2006 World Cup in Germany, its first-ever qualification for the tournament. They became the smallest country to qualify for the FIFA World Cup in 2006, succeeding Haiti for the title.
Northern Ireland?
That's correct. Whoever wrote that article did not do proper research.
On another note. Given the draw, TT has a good chance of making the Copa Centenario. Anyone know what the protocol is for deciding the two remaining spots if all 4 qualified teams make the semi. I think the 2 spots up for grabs will be battled between -
TT
Panama
Haiti
Honduras
El Salvador
Haiti, Honduras and Panama are in the group of death. So only one (maybe two) can go through.
Lookout for JA. They are leveraging their overseas born recruits. Their pool is getting DEEPER and they are getting stronger. I will like for us to meet them in the knockout and win the game.. This will put us through to the Copa.. ironically we will do the same thing they did to us.
Just like JA, Copa will probably be our second biggest accomplishment in football.
Post by: asylumseeker on March 31, 2015, 02:36:30 PM
Post by: trini_stallion on April 02, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
Post by: royal on April 02, 2015, 09:01:49 PM
Northern Irelad never qualified for a World Cup
Post by: Deeks on April 02, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
Post by: royal on April 02, 2015, 10:22:31 PM
Post by: Deeks on April 02, 2015, 10:57:01 PM
You're correct Deek '58 '82 and '86. It's there best ever player George Best never made itMe
Yes, it is a shame G. Best never played in a WC. NI was not strong enough to challenge Euro teams for WC qualification in the 60s and 70s. This guy was special on the field. But off the field he was ah drinker. That did not help stay long in the English football. He played some nice ball with Steve David for LA Aztecs.
Post by: Flex on May 21, 2015, 01:49:21 AM
T&T Express Reports.
The Confederation of North, Central America and Caribbean Association Football (CONCACAF) and QUOIKOS, an interactive artistic platform, yesterday presented an open competition to design the Gold Cup 2015 T-shirt.
The contest, offering a US$4,000 cash prize to the winner, challenges fans and artists alike to create a T-shirt design for the highly anticipated Gold Cup 2015, to be played in July of this year in 14 stadiums and 13 cities across the United States and Canada.
The "Gold Cup 2015 T-Shirt" challenge is open to everyone. The winner will receive the first produced T-shirt, in addition to the cash prize.
Post by: Flex on May 21, 2015, 02:28:25 AM
T&T Express Reports.
The Confederation of North, Central America and Caribbean Association Football (CONCACAF) and QUOIKOS, an interactive artistic platform, yesterday presented an open competition to design the Gold Cup 2015 T-shirt.
The contest, offering a US$4,000 cash prize to the winner, challenges fans and artists alike to create a T-shirt design for the highly anticipated Gold Cup 2015, to be played in July of this year in 14 stadiums and 13 cities across the United States and Canada.
The "Gold Cup 2015 T-Shirt" challenge is open to everyone. The winner will receive the first produced T-shirt, in addition to the cash prize.
Post by: Flex on May 28, 2015, 01:53:58 AM
T&T Express Reports.
The Confederation of North, Central America and the Caribbean Association (CONCACAF) has issued a release stating that its competition, including the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup is unaffected, but expressed concern about corruption indictments brought against its former president Jack Warner and his successor, Cayman Islands chief Jeffrey Webb.
Both men were among nine FIFA officials and five corporate executives indicted by the United States Government on racketeering, conspiracy and corruption charges yesterday.
The CONCACAF release in response stated:
"The Confederation of North, Central America and the Caribbean Association Football (CONCACAF) is deeply concerned by today's developments, in the arrest of several international football officials including those belonging to our Confederation. The Confederation will continue to cooperate with the authorities to its fullest capacity," the regional football body said.
The release added further: "At present, CONCACAF is not in a position to comment further on the specific allegations, which have been referred to the appropriate legal counsel through the pertinent channels. CONCACAF continues to operate in the ordinary course of business, hosting all of its upcoming tournaments in a successful and timely manner, including the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup."
Post by: royal on May 31, 2015, 06:13:16 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on June 02, 2015, 03:18:13 PM
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According to a source in Nicaragua, we are "scrimmaging" Nicaragua on June 20 and 22. According to a source in Nicaragua, we are "scrimmaging" Nicaragua on June 20 and 22. According to a source in Nicaragua, we are "scrimmaging" Nicaragua on June 20 and 22
Post by: asylumseeker on June 10, 2015, 01:48:03 PM
Grant Wahl (Sports Illustrated).
DaMarcus Beasley, the only U.S. male to play in four World Cups, has told U.S. coach Jurgen Klinsmann he’s willing to come out of his international retirement to be part of the squad for the upcoming CONCACAF Gold Cup.
After being approached by Klinsmann to gauge his interest, Beasley has been named to the U.S.’s 35-man preliminary roster, which was released on Wednesday. Beasley says he told Klinsmann that he will accept a call-up to the final Gold Cup roster if Klinsmann wants him.
Beasley, 33, has 121 national team caps and played in every World Cup from 2002 to 2014. He had originally announced his international retirement in December 2014.
Klinsmann said there were three reasons he asked Beasley to consider coming back into the fold:
• On-the-field reasons: Klinsmann still considers Beasley, who now plays for the Houston Dynamo, one of the U.S.’s top left backs.
• Off-the-field reasons: Klinsmann likes the experience and leadership of Beasley, who captained the U.S. to the 2013 Gold Cup title.
• Just win, baby: Klinsmann wants to field the best possible team and win the Gold Cup, as opposed to using it for development purposes.
If the U.S. wins the tournament, it will qualify automatically for the 2017 FIFA Confederations Cup in Russia. If the U.S. doesn’t win this Gold Cup, it would have to go to a playoff against this year’s winner to decide who goes to Russia in 2017.
Beasley and Klinsmann “spoke at length, and I took my time to think about it,” Beasley said. “So I am available for the Gold Cup if he wants me to play.” Beasley has started all of the Dynamo's 15 matches this season.
Somewhat surprisingly missing from the U.S.’s 35-man preliminary roster is Minnesota United winger Miguel Ibarra. Other notable omissions include Geoff Cameron and Jermaine Jones, with the latter nursing a recent groin injury. The final Gold Cup roster has to come from the 35-man preliminary list. Teams will be allowed to bring in new players for the knockout rounds, but they have to come from the 35-man list.
Post by: Banter Banton on June 10, 2015, 02:19:53 PM
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on June 10, 2015, 02:56:25 PM
Post by: Banter Banton on June 10, 2015, 03:05:55 PM
Preliminary Squad.No real suprises. http://m.mlssoccer.com/goldcup/2015/rosters
Thank you mate.
I like what I'm seeing, glad to see Gavin Hoyte in the mix.
Post by: Flex on June 10, 2015, 05:53:11 PM
By Inshan Mohammed.
Trinidad and Tobago national men's senior team head coach Stephen Hart has submitted a 34-man roster for the upcoming 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup tournament which is set to kick-off this summer in the United States from July 7 - 26.
While all other countries has submitted 35 players, Trinidad and Tobago went ahead and named just 34 and is currently looking into adding an additional player to bring the squad up to 35.
Hart told the Soca Warriors Online: "We were originally told to name 30 but last week they contacted us and said we could go with 35 players, added Hart."
The Soca Warriors meanwhile, are scheduled to take on Guatemala in their opening encounter on July 9th in Chicago. They then meet Cuba in Phoenix on the 12th and then completing it's group stage game against the mighty Mexicans 3-days later in Charlotte.
Each team must select 23 players from the 35 for its opening tournament squad, which will be announced June 23. Each nation that advances may replace six players after the group stage, with the replacements coming from among the original 35. An injured player from the final list may be replaced by another from provisional list 24 hours before his national team's first game.
Trinidad & Tobago Provisional Squad
Goalkeepers:
Jan-Michael Williams (Central FC), Marvin Phillip (Point Fortin Civic), Adrian Foncette (Police FC), Cleon John (North East Stars).
Defenders:
Radanfah Abu Bakr (HB Køge—Denmark), Justin Hoyte (Millwall—UK), Carlyle Mitchell (Seoul E-Land FC—South Korea), Mekeil Williams (W Connection), Kaydion Gabriel (Central FC), Sheldon Bateau (KV Mechelen—Belgium), Joevin Jones (Chicago Fire—USA), Gavin Hoyte (Barnet FC—UK), Daneil Cyrus (W Connection), Aubrey David (Shakhter Karagandy—Kazakhstan), Yohance Marshall (Juventud Independiente—El Salvador), Eljiah Belgrave (Police FC).
Midfielders:
Andre Boucaud (Dagenham & Redbridge—UK), Leston Paul (Central FC), Khaleem Hyland (KVC Westerlo—Belgium), Ataullah Guerra (Central FC), Sean De Silva (Central FC), Keron Cummings (North East Stars), Cordell Cato (San Jose Earthquakes—USA), Lester Peltier (Slovan Bratislava—Slovakia), Dwane James (North East Stars), Kadeem Corbin (St Ann’s Rangers), Kevan George (Columbus Crew—USA).
Forwards:
Shahdon Winchester (W Connection), Kenwyne Jones - capt - (Bournemouth—UK), Devorn Jorsling (Defence Force), Willis Plaza (Central FC), Rundell Winchester (Portland Timbers 2—USA), Jonathan Glenn (ÍBV Vestmannaeyjar—Iceland), Trevin Caesar (Austin Aztex—USA).
Coach - Stephen Hart.
Post by: Deeks on June 10, 2015, 06:17:46 PM
Post by: dreamer on June 10, 2015, 06:31:53 PM
1. Hard luck Julius James. Maybe something he knows that we don't know or maybe the standard in defense is so much higher now (and I think it is), that even a quality defender (even if fit) cyah break through.
1. Also hard luck Cornell Glen. You will always be a great player. Maybe BraveHart thnks that you are just too old to invest in, at the expense of a youngster with possibly 10 more years potential.
Post by: Flex on June 12, 2015, 01:59:07 AM
T&T Guardian Reports.
Soca Warriors coach Stephen Hart has named uncapped quartet Kadeem Corbin (St Ann’s Rangers), Kaydion Gabriel (Central FC), Elijah Belgrave (Police FC) and goalkeeper Adrian Foncette (Police FC) in a 34-man squad submitted by the T&T Football Association to Concacaf ahead of the Concacaf Gold Cup 2015 which kicks off in the USA next month.
The trio of Corbin, a former national Under-20 striker and ‘Most Valuable Player’ of last year’s Caribbean Football Union Under-20 Championship, right-back Gabriel and defender Belgrave had their first senior national team outings against Curacao in a 1-0 friendly loss last Friday in Willemstad, but that encounter will not be considered an official international by FIFA, as the host were allowed to play two separate teams in each half against the Soca Warriors, something which was agreed to by both teams as they continued preparations for their respective international engagements.
Foncette on the other hand was the third choice goalkeeper for the Soca Warriors during last year’s Caribbean Football Union Cup and along with Japs North East Stars custodian Cleon John, who has one cap from in 2013 will be hoping to unseat regular duo, Jan-Michael Williams and Marvin Phillip.
The roster of the T&T squad and 11 other participating teams was revealed by Concacaf on Wednesday, but the Soca Warriors were the only team to submit a 34 players instead of the full provisional 35-player rosters for the tournament. According to Concacaf rules, the binding rosters will serve as the foundation for teams to select their final rosters that will ultimately compete in the Confederation’s flagship national team tournament, from July 7-26.
In line with the Concacaf Gold Cup 2015 regulations, the preliminary rosters publicized will provide the total universe of players from which each national team may choose its initial 23-player roster. Each national team will also be permitted to make up to six replacements to that 23-player list after the conclusion of the tournament’s group stage. Those replacements must also come from the provisional list of 35 published today.
The final 23-player roster announcement will be made by Concacaf and the participating member associations on June 23. When asked to explain why T&T did not use its full quota of players for the initial roster after the Concacaf website initially showed the T&TFA had submitted only 30 players, coach Hart said the problem was already rectified.
He explained, “It was a simple error by both parties because Concacaf had originally asked us for a list of 30 players and we did that, but then they came back and said that we had room for five more players. “But during that time we were in Curacao for the friendly encounter, so we forwarded the information to them with regards to the other players to add to the team, but by then they had already did their lines-up for the story which was seen on the website.
Commenting on the selection of the squad, Hart said the reason he did not include a few emerging younger players like Shannon Gomez, Neveal Hackshaw, Alvin Jones and Jomal Williams, was because he felt it was much wiser and important at this time for them to be part of the Zoran Vranes-coached Pan American Games and Olympic qualifiers squad.
He added, “Unless it’s absolutely necessary it will serve all parties involved well. Because it will make no sense to have them in the senior squad and take them to tournaments and leave them on the bench, when they could be helping the cause of the Pan Am and Olympic qualifying teams. “At those tournaments they will be of much more importance to their teams and also be able to gain some much needed exposure and experience.”
“At the lower level, they will more than likely start every match, and if they are needed for the senior team, then they can be drafted back into the squad when the Concacaf World Cup qualifiers begin for us,” said Hart. For this year’s Gold Cup, host USA is the defending champion and along with the 2013 title, secured half a ticket to the 2017 FIFA Confederations Cup.
The Americans could clinch a berth in that intercontinental competition by defending their title in 2015. If the champion of the 2015 Gold Cup is any team other than the USA, that team will qualify for a playoff match against the Americans to decide which Concacaf national team will represent the region in the next Confederations Cup.
Not included in the squad named by Hart are the long-term injured trio of Hughtun Hector (Hanoi T&T/Vietnam), Kevin Molino (Orlando City/USA) and Seon Power (Chainat FC/Thailand) while USA-based duo, defender Julius James (San Antonio Scorpions/USA) and midfielder Kareem Moses (Edmonton FC/USA), were both overlooked.
The 12 national teams qualified for this year’s tournament are, Canada, Costa Rica, Cuba, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Jamaica, Mexico, Panama, T&T and USA.
T&T Gold Cup 2015 Provisional rosters
T&T GK (4)—Adrian Foncette (Police); Marvin Phillip (PFCC); Jan-Michael Williams (Central FC), Cleon John (North East Stars)
DF (10)—Radanfah Abu Bakr (HB Koge/Denmark); Sheldon Bateau (KV Mechelen/Belgium); Daneil Cyrus (Ha Noi/Vietnam); Aubrey David (Shakhter Karagandy /Kazakhstan); Gavin Hoyte (unattached); Justin Hoyte (Millwall/England); Yohance Marshall (Juventud Independiente/El Salvador); Carlyle Mitchell (Seoul E-Land FC/Korea Republic); Mekeil Williams (DirecTV W Connection), Elijah Belgrave (Police FC)
MF (11)—Andre Boucaud (Dagenham & Redbridge/England); Cordell Cato (San Jose Earthquakes/USA); Keron Cummings (North East Stars); Sean De Silva (Central FC); Kaydion Gabriel (Central FC); Khaleem Hyland (Genk/Belgium); Dwane James (North East Stars); Joevin Jones (Chicago Fire/USA); Leston Paul (Central FC); Lester Peltier (Slovan Bratislava/Slovakia), Kevon George (Columbus Crew),
F (9)—Trevin Caesar (San Antonio Scorpions/USA); Jonathan Glenn (IBV/Iceland); Kenwyne Jones (Cardiff City/Wales); Devorn Jorsling (Defence Force); Atualla Guerra (Central FC); Willis Plaza (Central FC); Rundell Winchester (Portland Timbers 2/USA); Shahdon Winchester (DirecTV W Connection), Kadeem Corbin (St Ann’s Rangers).
2015 CONCACAF GOLD CUP Groups
GROUP A: USA, Panama, Haiti, Honduras
GROUP B: Costa Rica, El Salvador, Canada, Jamaica
GROUP C: Mexico, Guatemala, Trinidad & Tobago, Cuba
Post by: asylumseeker on June 12, 2015, 05:31:15 AM
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Commenting on the selection of the squad, Hart said the reason he did not include a few emerging younger players like Shannon Gomez, Neveal Hackshaw, Alvin Jones and Jomal Williams, was because he felt it was much wiser and important at this time for them to be part of the Zoran Vranes-coached Pan American Games and Olympic qualifiers squad.
:applause: Makes absolute sense. Also points to an understanding of sorts between Hart and Vranes in the common interest. Looking forward to seeing a common understanding also achieved in the administrative corridors because success comes as a combination of on the field and off the field.
Post by: Tallman on June 16, 2015, 07:20:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/4e7WksL4NdQ
Post by: Tiresais on June 17, 2015, 05:33:21 AM
Post by: asylumseeker on June 17, 2015, 06:23:38 AM
I hope Yohance gets his moment to shine - he bossed Argentina in the friendly before the World Cup and actually likes to play ball, something unusual for Centre Backs traditionally.
... something that doesn't work spectacularly for David Luiz.
Post by: vb on June 17, 2015, 10:45:24 PM
Hartie.... all group tricky.
We get a very good group, which group you prefer?
Take care of Guatemala and Cuba and then worry about Mexico.
This is a very manageable group.
Sadly a lack of prep makes any group tricky.
I already planning a sick day for the Mex game. ;D
Post by: Tiresais on June 18, 2015, 05:28:08 AM
I hope Yohance gets his moment to shine - he bossed Argentina in the friendly before the World Cup and actually likes to play ball, something unusual for Centre Backs traditionally.
... something that doesn't work spectacularly for David Luiz.
Well what does work spectacularly for David Luiz? lol.
Seriously though, ball-playing centre backs are totally underappreciated - if you have a weak defensive line-up when it comes to passing and control, a good team will pressure you into losing it. If they're reluctant to step up and take the ball it can stifle your passing game as well.
The defence can be/are the start of attacking play, and bad passing from them can gift many a goal away.
Post by: Errol on June 18, 2015, 06:05:41 AM
T&T 0 v Guatemala 1
Cuba 1 v T&T 1
Mexico 2 v T&T 0
Hart seems like he just cant go up to the next level of coaching.
What I don't get is, the T&T national team has been inactive months between games and what do our coaches do in the meantime?
They go to local games, but do they actually try to improve their coaching?
Post by: doc on June 18, 2015, 06:27:57 AM
Judging from the last 2 games we played and no goals from the past 5 games for T&T, I predict.Sound like a play station boss ;D
T&T 0 v Guatemala 1
Cuba 1 v T&T 1
Mexico 2 v T&T 0
Hart seems like he just cant go up to the next level of coaching.
What I don't get is, the T&T national team has been inactive months between games and what do our coaches do in the meantime?
They go to local games, but do they actually try to improve their coaching?
Post by: Sam on June 18, 2015, 06:42:11 AM
Judging from the last 2 games we played and no goals from the past 5 games for T&T, I predict.
T&T 0 v Guatemala 1
Cuba 1 v T&T 1
Mexico 2 v T&T 0
Hart seems like he just cant go up to the next level of coaching.
What I don't get is, the T&T national team has been inactive months between games and what do our coaches do in the meantime?
They go to local games, but do they actually try to improve their coaching?
Nah, Hartie is not a bad coach.
We playing friendlies to experiment, that is the reason for them.
But yea, some adjustments needs to be done.
It woulda be nice if de team could get an extra game plus de Haiti one next month.
Post by: Deeks on June 18, 2015, 06:45:44 AM
Post by: Errol on June 18, 2015, 06:55:50 AM
Hart is here and I don't hear him demanding more games instead he is there taking all the crap the TTFA is giving him.
So who you want me to blame?
Honestly, I like the guy, but I find he is to soft and favors certain players, that's my problem with Hart and he doesn't try different situations.
How can you make a team like Jordan who is ranked 103 look like Barcelona against you?
Post by: Deeks on June 18, 2015, 10:07:43 AM
Hart has his ways of doing things, and you may not agree with him. That is ok. That is your opinion. To say he has not asked or demand(as in your case) for games is not entirely true. How many games has TTFA had cancelled because of the lack of funds. Hart is just as frustrated as you. He may be at the point of resigning. Who knows. He is being let down by the people who has the power to assist football.
Post by: maxg on June 18, 2015, 10:38:52 AM
Then again, our observations (SH,mine and many knowledgable fans) could be totally wrong, and we are just living a pipedream. Only one way to test that theory. Play as much games as you can, pay the players & staff, the necessary agreed conditions. If after one Government term, no significant results , revise the commitment and use the money o develop other social improvements.
I thought ' Daneil Cyrus (W Connection) 'was foreign and doing quite well ?
Post by: maxg on June 19, 2015, 11:56:24 AM
Post by: Sando prince on June 21, 2015, 09:23:40 AM
CONCACAF Gold Cup ticket sales soar to 300,000
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport/CONCACAF-Gold-Cup-ticket-sales-soar-to-300-000_19151803 (http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport/CONCACAF-Gold-Cup-ticket-sales-soar-to-300-000_19151803)
MIAMI, Floria — CONCACAF on Thursday announced that with just under three weeks to the start of the CONCACAF Gold Cup 2015, approximately 300,000 tickets are already sold for the 14-venue event, an increase of nearly 100 per cent compared to the same timeframe as the 2013 tournament.
Two venues — Dallas and Kansas City — are virtually sold out.
With the original supply sold, a limited number of previously reserved tickets will now be made available for the kick-off double-header in Dallas on July 7, as well as the games in Kansas City on July 13. Both match dates feature Group A, which includes the United States, Panama, Haiti and Honduras.
Tickets for the crucial second date of Group A on July 10 at Gillette Stadium in the Boston area are still available but fans are encouraged to purchase in advance as supplies are limited.
Ticket sales for the Gold Cup 2015 are the highest ever in the tournament's 24-year history when compared to the same time frame as previous editions. More than two weeks before the start of this year's Gold Cup, the total number of tickets sold to date is already on par with the total Gold Cup attendance for the entire tournament just a decade ago in 2005, when the competition culminated with a riveting penalty kick victory for the United States over Panama at the Meadowlands.
As CONCACAF nations such as the United States, Mexico and Costa Rica leave their mark on the world stage and at the FIFA World Cup, the Gold Cup has established itself as the region's top international competition.
Launched in 1991, the tournament's reach doubled in 2009, when the event expanded to 12 venues across the United States, the host country for this edition along with Canada.
The region's marquee national team tournament will again call on world-class venues for this year's edition, including a mix of National Football League stadiums across the country along with soccer-specific stadiums used by Major League Soccer teams.
The venues are the Georgia Dome (Atlanta, GA), Gillette Stadium (Boston, MA), M&T Bank Stadium (Baltimore, MD), Soldier Field (Chicago, IL), Bank of America Stadium (Charlotte, NC), Toyota Stadium (Dallas, TX), BBVA Compass Stadium (Houston, TX), Sporting Park (Kansas City, KS), Stubhub Center (Los Angeles, CA), Met Life Stadium (New York/New Jersey), Lincoln Financial Field (Philadelphia, PA), PPL Park (Philadelphia, PA), University of Phoenix Stadium (Phoenix, AZ) and BMO Field (Toronto, ON).
The 12 participating national teams qualified for this year's tournament are: Canada, Costa Rica, Cuba, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Jamaica, Mexico, Panama, Trinidad & Tobago and the United States.
Post by: Bianconeri on June 21, 2015, 11:26:03 AM
Just a few points to study
You're hired to do a job and not paid for months. Are you still gonna have that love and passion for the job after 6 months for example, and no salary that was promised?
Also, look at the Jordan tour. Look how disorganised it is.
EXTREMELY unfair for the players. Unsure if game is on til a day or 2 before?!?
for those long trips you have to prep days in advance mentally and physically! And when we reach and look sluggish, we wonder why
we're asking for miracles at this point.
And we need to come to the reality that we have to change our whole approach.
Players must improve on their professionalism.
Administration needs to stop being greedy and step their game up and stop being so disorganised. They cant expect corporate TT to invest in the game when the recent events over the last few years paints a nasty picture. Why put my company name alongside such an establishment????
Post by: Tallman on June 23, 2015, 01:53:26 PM
http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2015/06/23/10/30/150623-mnt-gold-cup-roster-release
Post by: asylumseeker on June 29, 2015, 06:22:50 AM
Post by: Tiresais on June 29, 2015, 06:51:55 AM
I'm less concerned about the non-inclusion of Jorsling, and significantly more concerned about where our players play. We should be in circumstances such that 15-20/25 players participated in foreign leagues of unquestionable quality, with a secondary cohort of other players competitively pressing for inclusion.
... And improve the Pro League to the level of professionalism and quality required to challenge National team players :p
Post by: asylumseeker on June 30, 2015, 01:36:47 PM
Post by: Tallman on June 30, 2015, 07:24:16 PM
http://www.mlssoccer.com/goldcup/2015/group-c-preview
Post by: Tallman on July 01, 2015, 12:43:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/bjz_VpShFLA
Defender Sheldon Bateau talks about T&T’s Gold Cup preparations
https://www.youtube.com/v/VqJJyZWz8Mw
Post by: Feliziano on July 01, 2015, 08:09:27 PM
Post by: Bakes on July 01, 2015, 08:20:44 PM
UPDATE: Broken collarbone for Chicharito. Wow.
Post by: Deeks on July 01, 2015, 09:32:53 PM
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Post by: soccerman on July 07, 2015, 06:37:03 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 07, 2015, 06:37:55 PM
panama isn't all that.
Yuh know yuh jinx Haiti with that one.
Post by: Bitter on July 07, 2015, 06:53:16 PM
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Post by: soccerman on July 07, 2015, 07:09:10 PM
Big bloodcleet goal. Poise and composure. Well done, Haiti!Yea that was was boss
Post by: Bitter on July 07, 2015, 07:30:44 PM
Post by: Deeks on July 07, 2015, 07:39:16 PM
Post by: OutsideMan on July 07, 2015, 07:41:55 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 07, 2015, 07:46:56 PM
Wow...Honduras looking real good against the USA right now. The game still early, but the US looking lost against this Honduras team.
They ent want to lose the international audience. ;D
Honduras playing 6 in the back on defense though. They all line up
Post by: Bitter on July 07, 2015, 07:52:31 PM
At least they have an identity though.
Post by: Bitter on July 07, 2015, 08:01:11 PM
Post by: grimm01 on July 07, 2015, 08:02:07 PM
Post by: OutsideMan on July 07, 2015, 08:02:26 PM
Wow...Honduras looking real good against the USA right now. The game still early, but the US looking lost against this Honduras team.
They ent want to lose the international audience. ;D
Honduras playing 6 in the back on defense though. They all line up
Breda, right now as of the 25th minute, Honduras outplaying the US in defense, the midfield, and offense. They dominating in all parts of this game. Haven't seen a Honduras team look this good in a long time.
While I was typing this comment, the US scored a goal totally against the run-of-play, from a set-piece that wasn't properly cleared by the Honduran defense....lol *Bleh* :rotfl:
Post by: grimm01 on July 07, 2015, 08:07:19 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 07, 2015, 08:08:02 PM
Wow...Honduras looking real good against the USA right now. The game still early, but the US looking lost against this Honduras team.
They ent want to lose the international audience. ;D
Honduras playing 6 in the back on defense though. They all line up
Breda, right now as of the 25th minute, Honduras outplaying the US in defense, the midfield, and offense. They dominating in all parts of this game. Haven't seen a Honduras team look this good in a long time.
While I was typing this comment, the US scored a goal totally against the run-of-play, from a set-piece that wasn't properly cleared by the Honduran defense....lol *Bleh* :rotfl:
The USA don't care about being outplayed. They always have a solid defense and they know how to work their strengths.
Post by: OutsideMan on July 07, 2015, 08:50:11 PM
Regardless of the score and the ultimate result, this US team is none too impressive for a so-called regional football superpower.
Post by: Bitter on July 07, 2015, 08:58:08 PM
Outplayed most of the 2nd half so far. Score on a set piece.
Honduras knocking nice ball though. They should try and score.
Post by: Peong on July 07, 2015, 09:00:08 PM
The keeper shoulda come for that ball on the second goal.
Honduras have been quicker to the ball all night.
Post by: Bitter on July 07, 2015, 09:03:19 PM
The us defender sell heself on that challenge like a two dollar whore.
Post by: Peong on July 07, 2015, 09:09:43 PM
I like how the ref not blowing for every little bump and scuffle in this game.
Honduras were good but unlucky. USA were unimpressive.
Post by: vb on July 07, 2015, 10:14:51 PM
Excellent individual effort by Nazon... nobody talking about that wrong direction he hit Cummings? Nothing against Quintero's own excellent strike for the Canaleros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpn4IZWNWyM
Post by: pull stones on July 08, 2015, 12:47:58 AM
Post by: Flex on July 08, 2015, 03:12:03 AM
Panama 1 v Haiti 1
Quintero 55 Nazon 85
United States 2 v Honduras 1
Dempsey 25 Discua 64
Dempsey 64
Post by: asylumseeker on July 08, 2015, 12:14:50 PM
Mike Woitalla (Soccer America)
USA-HONDURAS EXPRESS:
July 7 in Frisco, Texas
USA 2 Honduras 1. Goals: Dempsey 25, 64; Discua 69.
Att.: 22,357.
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The USA opened its Gold Cup campaign with a 2-1 win over Honduras thanks to two Clint Dempsey goals. The Catrachos came out strong and troubled the USA for much of the game -- but failed to beat goalkeeper Brad Guzan until they had conceded a two-goal advantage to the hosts.
Starters: RATING PLAYER (CLUB) GP/G
7 Brad Guzan (Aston Villa/ENG) 32/0.
Within the first six minutes, he made a one-handed diving save on Anthony Lozano's close-range shot, punched out a driven corner kick, and tipped over the a long-range Andy Najar shot. Came out of his penalty area either side of halftime to clear dangerous through balls. Beaten from close-range by Carlos Discua.
3 Tim Chandler (Eintracht Frankfurt/GER) 23/1.
Right back mis-hit six passes in the first half and coughed up the ball twice early in the second half. Subbed out in 63rd minute.
3 Ventura Alvarado (Club America/MEX) 7/0.
Caught flat-footed as Discua -- with the U.S. midfield dozing -- stormed into the penalty area to score Honduras’ goal and late in the game he lost Eddie Hernandez, who shot wide.
5 John Brooks (Hertha Berlin/GER) 14/0.
Picked up a yellow card for hacking playmaker Mario Martinez in midfield but was more poised in the penalty area, where he cleared several balls.
5 Fabian Johnson (Borussia M'Gladbach/GER) 34/1.
Left back attacked frequently, nearly setting up a goal when he cruised through Honduran territory and set up DeAndre Yedlin for a one-on-one that keeper Donis Escobar saved well.
4 DeAndre Yedlin (Tottenham/ENG) 19/0.
Covered plenty of ground on the right flank, nearly scored when he came through the center, but his frantic pace didn't help USA to control midfield play.
5 Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake) 42/1
Defensive midfielder joined the backline three times in the first half to block a pass across the goal area and head away two crosses, but stopping the Catrachos farther up the field would have made this an easier win.
6 Michael Bradley (Toronto FC) 100/13.
Hit the cross that created the goalmouth scramble that led to Dempsey’s first goal and launched the free kick that Dempsey headed in for the 2-0. Nearly scored with a free kick when he caught Escobar off guard. Led a midfield that failed to find its rhythm.
5 Gyasi Zardes (LA Galaxy) 9/1.
Battled defensively to cover for Johnson’s forays and his attacks down the left flank in the second half gave the U.S. backline breaks as Honduras tried to attack in waves for a comeback.
5 Jozy Altidore (Toronto FC), 82/27.
Hit the shot that keeper Donis Escobar deflected to Clint Dempsey on the 1-0. Subbed in 59th minute.
8 Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders) 114/43.
Johnny-on-the-spot to head home a goalkeeper rebound to give the USA a 1-0 lead against the run of play in the 25th minute. Darted though a crowd of Catracho defenders to nod the USA’s second goal. Hounduran fouls kept him from causing further damage. Toiled to help out midfield late in game.
Substitutes:
5 Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes) 28/10.
Didn’t get service for scoring opportunities after arriving in 59th minute.
5 Brad Evans (Seattle Sounders) 19/1.
Broke up three Honduran attacks in the U.S. penalty area after replacing Chandler.
NR Graham Zusi (Sporting KC), 29/3.
Won a midfield tackle on one Honduras’ last-ditch attacks.
(1=low; 5=average; 10=high)
July 7 in Frisco, Texas
USA 2 Honduras 1. Goals: Dempsey 25, 64; Discua 69.
USA -- Guzan, Chandler (Evans 64), Alvarado, Brooks, Johnson, Yedlin, Bradley, Beckerman, Zardes (Zusi 88), Dempsey, Altidore (Wondolowski, 60).
Honduras -- Escober, Crisanto, H.Figueroa (Hernandez 76), J.Palacios, M.Figueroa, Beckeles, Martinez (Discua 70), Acosta, Mejia, Najar (Quioto 64), Lozano.
Yellow Cards: USA -- Brooks 16; Honduras -- Palacios 87.
Referee: Cesar Ramos (Mexico).
Att.: 22,357.
TRIVIA: The USA remains undefeated against Honduras in Gold Cup play with seven wins (including shootout tiebreaker victory in the final of the inaugural 1991 Gold Cup). Tuesday’s win kept the USA perfect in its 13 Gold Cup openers.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 08, 2015, 12:16:47 PM
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The USA don't care about being outplayed. They always have a solid defense and they know how to work their strengths.
Yep.
Post by: Peong on July 08, 2015, 12:26:50 PM
mercy me. even though the usa won this has to be the worst team i have ever seen them fielded, with bradley and dempsey being the only two bright spots.
Yeah this team is ripe for a beating. I thought that Gyasi fella had a good game though. He was one of the few Americans who could compete physically with the Hondurans. He kept the ball and made good tackles.
Post by: Tiresais on July 08, 2015, 01:07:22 PM
mercy me. even though the usa won this has to be the worst team i have ever seen them fielded, with bradley and dempsey being the only two bright spots.
Yeah this team is ripe for a beating. I thought that Gyasi fella had a good game though. He was one of the few Americans who could compete physically with the Hondurans. He kept the ball and made good tackles.
Don't underestimate - as has been said they don't mind soaking up the pressure; how many games have you seen Stoke get totally overrun and yet still sit comfortably mid-table by the end of the season :p
Post by: kounty on July 08, 2015, 03:04:59 PM
Post by: Peong on July 08, 2015, 03:19:05 PM
mercy me. even though the usa won this has to be the worst team i have ever seen them fielded, with bradley and dempsey being the only two bright spots.
Yeah this team is ripe for a beating. I thought that Gyasi fella had a good game though. He was one of the few Americans who could compete physically with the Hondurans. He kept the ball and made good tackles.
Don't underestimate - as has been said they don't mind soaking up the pressure; how many games have you seen Stoke get totally overrun and yet still sit comfortably mid-table by the end of the season :p
Could be that the US will hit their stride later on. It has happened before.
I try real hard not to watch any of Stoke's games.
Post by: soccerman on July 08, 2015, 06:30:30 PM
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Post by: gawd on pitch on July 08, 2015, 08:21:36 PM
Best game of the tournament so far.
Indeed. Good work by the reggae Boyz. I know most of we expecting them to lose.. but they have proven themselves against a good tico side.
Post by: pull stones on July 08, 2015, 08:49:31 PM
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Post by: Bitter on July 08, 2015, 09:11:59 PM
Best game of the tournament so far.
and now we get to watch this boring Canada - El Salvador game. :yawning:
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 08, 2015, 09:12:40 PM
rudolph austin maybe a grouch and a hater but that man is a live beast. my goodness what an efficient player. only if we had a player like rudolph austin, i could only wonder.
Yes. He was key.
But all yuh really see what happen.. Copa America benefitted this team tremendously.
Post by: Bitter on July 08, 2015, 09:13:04 PM
Post by: Preacher on July 08, 2015, 09:21:23 PM
Post by: Peong on July 08, 2015, 09:29:38 PM
Nah Man! yuh pull a Higuain dey!
That miss had a Torres-like quality about it.
Higuain make ppl forget the real miss-master.
Post by: Preacher on July 08, 2015, 09:46:22 PM
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Post by: soccerman on July 08, 2015, 10:00:27 PM
How everybody doing? I forget meh manners. I even say "Good night" Peong..Bitter.. Wha is scene?Whey Preacher resurrect from ;D
El Salvador real throwing away tonight
Post by: Preacher on July 08, 2015, 10:04:22 PM
How everybody doing? I forget meh manners. I even say "Good night" Peong..Bitter.. Wha is scene?Whey Preacher resurrect from ;D
El Salvador real throwing away tonight
I dey wukkin hard. Was gonna make the run down tmw with Feliz but not any more. Since Vacation next week. :)
Wha is the scene with you?
Post by: soccerman on July 08, 2015, 10:20:05 PM
Everything normal, trying to keep up with with T&T and dey shit lolHow everybody doing? I forget meh manners. I even say "Good night" Peong..Bitter.. Wha is scene?Whey Preacher resurrect from ;D
El Salvador real throwing away tonight
I dey wukkin hard. Was gonna make the run down tmw with Feliz but not any more. Since Vacation next week. :)
Wha is the scene with you?
I say you'll be in the mix tomorrow for sure since the game in your back yard. Hopefully we get off to a good start :beermug:
Post by: Preacher on July 08, 2015, 10:22:17 PM
Post by: pull stones on July 09, 2015, 12:04:05 AM
Post by: reggae-fan on July 09, 2015, 01:57:26 AM
rudolph austin maybe a grouch and a hater but that man is a live beast. my goodness what an efficient player. if only we had a player like rudolph austin, i could only wonder.
Austin is a gem of a midfielder, packs a decent kick too. Never smiles when he is on duty.
Post by: reggae-fan on July 09, 2015, 02:06:16 AM
Post by: pull stones on July 09, 2015, 03:01:07 AM
Caribbean teams are looking good so far this tournament... Panama struggled against Haiti, Jamaica matched Costa Rica... and those Guatemalans always come up short against teams that are superior to them physically. I actually believe T&T will get a result also in this game to add to Haiti and Jamaica's relatively good start so far. Must be hard for these players to lift their game when playing to man empty stadium though. That Jamaica Costa Rica game would have been sold out if played in NY or Miamiempty stadium no problem man as a matter of fact our boys would be right at home with the scanty crowd, it might even prove to be a booster in comparison to the empty seats they used too at the ato bolden in couva.
Post by: de_redman on July 09, 2015, 05:56:11 AM
(http://image-load-balancer.worldsportshops.com/Images/watermarked_thumbnail.aspx?img=75977&photoNum=1&t=I&catalog=Soccer&w=300&h=300)
Post by: Sando on July 09, 2015, 06:22:07 AM
Look what they selling as we gold cup jersey on worldsoccershop.com
(http://image-load-balancer.worldsportshops.com/Images/watermarked_thumbnail.aspx?img=75977&photoNum=1&t=I&catalog=Soccer&w=300&h=300)
They will be lucky if they sell 5?
Post by: Flex on July 09, 2015, 06:25:12 AM
Costa Rica 2 v Jamaica 2
Miller 33 McCleary 13
Ramírez 37 McAnuff 48
El Salvador 0 v Canada 0
Post by: pull stones on July 09, 2015, 06:40:32 AM
that silly kit that Joma has assigned us is way too tight. I hope they rectify that this time around because Honduras also wears joma and their kit is lose fitting and comfortable. The players look like netball players in that ridiculous skimpy kit. Is there anyone at home on that management team?Look what they selling as we gold cup jersey on worldsoccershop.com
(http://image-load-balancer.worldsportshops.com/Images/watermarked_thumbnail.aspx?img=75977&photoNum=1&t=I&catalog=Soccer&w=300&h=300)
They will be lucky if they sell 5?
Post by: kounty on July 09, 2015, 09:16:03 AM
Caribbean teams are looking good so far this tournament... Panama struggled against Haiti, Jamaica matched Costa Rica... and those Guatemalans always come up short against teams that are superior to them physically. I actually believe T&T will get a result also in this game to add to Haiti and Jamaica's relatively good start so far. Must be hard for these players to lift their game when playing to man empty stadium though. That Jamaica Costa Rica game would have been sold out if played in NY or MiamiJamaica had a really good game. I hope they work out the nerves, goalkeeper errors, lack of concentration in defense that kept them back in the 1st half. If so we in for a real treat in terms of standard of play this Gold Cup.
Post by: Peong on July 09, 2015, 02:28:34 PM
How everybody doing? I forget meh manners. I even say "Good night" Peong..Bitter.. Wha is scene?
Cool Preacher.
Big game tonight I excited. Gold Cup is serious business!
Post by: soccerman on July 09, 2015, 08:30:20 PM
Post by: lefty on July 09, 2015, 09:03:52 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 09, 2015, 09:13:42 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on July 09, 2015, 09:24:47 PM
I feeling sorry for Cuba eh.
Yeah, dis rough. As a team with off the field issues too, we should recognize their pain.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 09, 2015, 09:27:57 PM
looks like if we do we work on saturday we in d quarters
Lefty, wham? Unusually, yuh confusing a lot of basic data tonight. :) Sunday, not Saturday. Jan not Marvin.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 09, 2015, 09:33:42 PM
I feeling sorry for Cuba eh.
Yeah, dis rough. As a team with off the field issues too, we should recognize their pain.
Plus, this goal fest could come back to haunt us.
Post by: soccerman on July 09, 2015, 09:44:00 PM
Post by: lefty on July 09, 2015, 09:44:38 PM
looks like if we do we work on saturday we in d quarters
Lefty, wham? Unusually, yuh confusing a lot of basic data tonight. :) Sunday, not Saturday. Jan not Marvin.
not my night apparently :( rough day at d office and ah naggin headache
Post by: pull stones on July 10, 2015, 12:44:14 AM
it already has seeing mexico has a 4 goal lead despite scoring 3 goals in the opener. and if the six players turn up on sunday to play spoiler then it could really be a nightmarish situation for us.I feeling sorry for Cuba eh.
Yeah, dis rough. As a team with off the field issues too, we should recognize their pain.
Plus, this goal fest could come back to haunt us.
Post by: Controversial on July 10, 2015, 03:08:06 PM
Metlife Stadium NY,NY... :o
Post by: Controversial on July 10, 2015, 03:16:42 PM
Well, well, well....
We taking it brothers... So who organizing the SW.net lime in NYC?
The full contingent from T.O. will be making the journey, I really think JA will finish 2nd...
Or TT takes the group, which is what I'm hoping for and we play Panama, Canada or El Salvador
http://www.concacaf.com/wp-content/themes/concacaf/img/splash-tickets/CONCACAF%20-%20Gold%20Cup%202015%20Schedule%20Book_HIGHRES.pdf (http://www.concacaf.com/wp-content/themes/concacaf/img/splash-tickets/CONCACAF%20-%20Gold%20Cup%202015%20Schedule%20Book_HIGHRES.pdf)
Post by: Sando prince on July 10, 2015, 03:22:53 PM
Post by: Controversial on July 10, 2015, 03:27:56 PM
Why few of allyuh get so hype for these type of games? I want the Soca Warriors to be on course to make the final. More important than a clash with a team who is not a top team in CONCACAF (just like us)
it maybe our quarter final game in ny bro... we can't escape that, unless we top the group which is also a possibility...
it will be a great atmosphere in NY...
Post by: Sando prince on July 10, 2015, 03:30:24 PM
Why few of allyuh get so hype for these type of games? I want the Soca Warriors to be on course to make the final. More important than a clash with a team who is not a top team in CONCACAF (just like us)
it maybe our quarter final game in ny bro... we can't escape that, unless we top the group which is also a possibility...
it will be a great atmosphere in NY...
steupse think about winning the games to get out the group and be ready for any team on our way to the final
Not some fascination playing against a team just for some useless bragging points. DO YOU SEE JAMAICANS desperate to play T&T? talk done
Post by: Controversial on July 10, 2015, 03:36:05 PM
Why few of allyuh get so hype for these type of games? I want the Soca Warriors to be on course to make the final. More important than a clash with a team who is not a top team in CONCACAF (just like us)
it maybe our quarter final game in ny bro... we can't escape that, unless we top the group which is also a possibility...
it will be a great atmosphere in NY...
steupse think about winning the games to get out the group and be ready for any team on our way to the final
Not some fascination playing against a team just for some useless bragging points. DO YOU SEE JAMAICANS desperate to play T&T? talk done
it's not desperation, it's a possibility... playing in new york to a lot of expats from the nation will be good... its not about bragging..
Post by: Deeks on July 10, 2015, 04:09:05 PM
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Post by: che on July 10, 2015, 04:43:33 PM
Any link for tonight's game?
http://johnnystv.blogspot.com/
Post by: vb on July 10, 2015, 04:46:01 PM
Jamaica eh care bout we meeting dem why de arse we worrying dem ...... dey are not we focus at the moment ... but Cuba , then Mexico... after dat who knows ... but a game at a time so fack off with J.A for de moment ! we main focus is Cuba on sunday thats de bottom line.!!
Who says we not foucussed. We actually have something to look forward to instead of the usual "what is our program?"
Just be grateful we will have some momentum after the GC.
Post by: socalion on July 10, 2015, 05:14:33 PM
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Post by: Deeks on July 10, 2015, 06:09:55 PM
http://deportesenvivo.univision.com/game/hait-at-usa-on-20150710
Post by: pull stones on July 10, 2015, 07:03:29 PM
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Post by: Deeks on July 10, 2015, 07:26:45 PM
This is the Haitian team T&T beat in closed doors.
They were playing dead to ketch cobo alive!!! They were not showing their full hand.
Post by: lucky4life on July 10, 2015, 07:36:04 PM
The officials just tief a goal from usa.it's bout time that have happen look how many times the officials have thief for them in the post
Post by: davyjenny1 on July 10, 2015, 07:37:55 PM
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Post by: reggae-fan on July 11, 2015, 04:26:20 PM
Jamaica will have to fight hard and play a disciplined game to get anything out of the Canada game. At least a point is needed to stay on track.
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 11, 2015, 04:51:48 PM
I don't see that happening. In all likelihood, both Ja and T&Twill end runners up in their respective groups.... Jamaica's group is still wide open, all 4 teams locked on points. Hate to say this, but I suspect Cuba will probably present you guys with a harder challenge than Guatemala.... and Guatemala might end up coming away with a respectable score against Mexico... central American teams match up better with Mexico than does the Caribbean teams imho.
Jamaica will have to fight hard and play a disciplined game to get anything out of the Canada game. At least a point is needed to stay on track.
Yuh sleeping ah what, yuh jus make de man point with your first statement, 2nd in groups b and c play each other in the second qtr in nj
Post by: Controversial on July 11, 2015, 04:54:30 PM
I don't see that happening. In all likelihood, both Ja and T&Twill end runners up in their respective groups.... Jamaica's group is still wide open, all 4 teams locked on points. Hate to say this, but I suspect Cuba will probably present you guys with a harder challenge than Guatemala.... and Guatemala might end up coming away with a respectable score against Mexico... central American teams match up better with Mexico than does the Caribbean teams imho.
Jamaica will have to fight hard and play a disciplined game to get anything out of the Canada game. At least a point is needed to stay on track.
Yuh sleeping ah what, yuh jus make de man point with your first statement, 2nd in groups b and c play each other in the second qtr in nj
Reggae fan talking nonsense... He fraid to play us next rounds because we will manners yard in ny...
Remember I say that family...
Post by: Controversial on July 11, 2015, 06:07:31 PM
I don't see that happening. In all likelihood, both Ja and T&Twill end runners up in their respective groups.... Jamaica's group is still wide open, all 4 teams locked on points. Hate to say this, but I suspect Cuba will probably present you guys with a harder challenge than Guatemala.... and Guatemala might end up coming away with a respectable score against Mexico... central American teams match up better with Mexico than does the Caribbean teams imho.
Jamaica will have to fight hard and play a disciplined game to get anything out of the Canada game. At least a point is needed to stay on track.
Some things never change... Once a blue crab, always a blue crab..
Indirectly I'm wishing yard the best and you ups and talking and bunch of rubbish...
Think before you talk and make sure you do your research before you chat that rubbish again..
Post by: reggae-fan on July 11, 2015, 06:40:59 PM
Yuh sleeping ah what, yuh jus make de man point with your first statement, 2nd in groups b and c play each other in the second qtr in nj
Cool, didn't realize second plays second. In any event, I'd like to think that Jamaica would relish T&T over Mexico for a spot in the semis. Should be a good one for the fans.
Hehe heh.
Post by: reggae-fan on July 11, 2015, 06:44:22 PM
I don't see that happening. In all likelihood, both Ja and T&Twill end runners up in their respective groups.... Jamaica's group is still wide open, all 4 teams locked on points. Hate to say this, but I suspect Cuba will probably present you guys with a harder challenge than Guatemala.... and Guatemala might end up coming away with a respectable score against Mexico... central American teams match up better with Mexico than does the Caribbean teams imho.
Jamaica will have to fight hard and play a disciplined game to get anything out of the Canada game. At least a point is needed to stay on track.
Some things never change... Once a blue crab, always a blue crab..
Indirectly I'm wishing yard the best and you ups and talking and bunch of rubbish...
Think before you talk and make sure you do your research before you chat that rubbish again..
Ok, no need to blow a fuse bro. Mexico 3 Guatemala 0, t&t 6 Cuba 0. Done deal.
Post by: g on July 11, 2015, 07:12:59 PM
Should be secured into the next round after this.
Post by: grimm01 on July 11, 2015, 08:38:23 PM
Jamrock pulled off a late winner versus Canada and a deserved result based on the run of play.
Should be secured into the next round after this.
Yeah Jamaica take their sweet time to win that one. I only saw the second half and Canada didn't have a thing going on.
Post by: E-man on July 11, 2015, 08:46:47 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 11, 2015, 09:08:46 PM
Those Salvadoran fans never quit with the water bottles/cupsI was just saying that, I remembered they did the same thing towards us in the last GC.
Post by: pull stones on July 11, 2015, 11:38:46 PM
not with that z team they came with. how you expect cuba to beat us when they were traunched 6-0 by a mexican B team? even if cuba got back their 6 players on time to face us, they have never beaten us in serious competition except for PK's. even when we were a weaker team we held them goaless from the run of play on quite a few occasions, so why when they are at the weakest they have ever been suddenly have the where-with-all to beat us? i don't add up mate.I don't see that happening. In all likelihood, both Ja and T&Twill end runners up in their respective groups.... Jamaica's group is still wide open, all 4 teams locked on points. Hate to say this, but I suspect Cuba will probably present you guys with a harder challenge than Guatemala.... and Guatemala might end up coming away with a respectable score against Mexico... central American teams match up better with Mexico than does the Caribbean teams imho.
Jamaica will have to fight hard and play a disciplined game to get anything out of the Canada game. At least a point is needed to stay on track.
Some things never change... Once a blue crab, always a blue crab..
Indirectly I'm wishing yard the best and you ups and talking and bunch of rubbish...
Think before you talk and make sure you do your research before you chat that rubbish again..
Ok, no need to blow a fuse bro. Mexico 3 Guatemala 0, t&t 6 Cuba 0. Done deal.
Post by: reggae-fan on July 12, 2015, 04:09:34 AM
not with that z team they came with. how you expect cuba to beat us when they were traunched 6-0 by a mexican B team? even if cuba got back their 6 players on time to face us, they have never beaten us in serious competition except for PK's. even when we were a weaker team we held them goaless from the run of play on quite a few occasions, so why when they are at the weakest they have ever been suddenly have the where-with-all to beat us? i don't add up mate.I don't see that happening. In all likelihood, both Ja and T&Twill end runners up in their respective groups.... Jamaica's group is still wide open, all 4 teams locked on points. Hate to say this, but I suspect Cuba will probably present you guys with a harder challenge than Guatemala.... and Guatemala might end up coming away with a respectable score against Mexico... central American teams match up better with Mexico than does the Caribbean teams imho.
Jamaica will have to fight hard and play a disciplined game to get anything out of the Canada game. At least a point is needed to stay on track.
Some things never change... Once a blue crab, always a blue crab..
Indirectly I'm wishing yard the best and you ups and talking and bunch of rubbish...
Think before you talk and make sure you do your research before you chat that rubbish again..
Ok, no need to blow a fuse bro. Mexico 3 Guatemala 0, t&t 6 Cuba 0. Done deal.
Actually, you missed the point I made. read my post again and show me where I said Cuba will beat anyone?
Post by: Peong on July 12, 2015, 05:08:58 PM
Post by: g on July 12, 2015, 05:32:15 PM
Why no games in Miami? Any of the Caribbean and UNCAF teams woulda pull a big crowd here. Cuba, Haiti, Jamaica, T&T have real ppl here.
what football specific stadia they have in south florida? seems as if the tournament is using only MLS stadia for the tourney.
Post by: Deeks on July 12, 2015, 05:49:07 PM
Why no games in Miami? Any of the Caribbean and UNCAF teams woulda pull a big crowd here. Cuba, Haiti, Jamaica, T&T have real ppl here.
what football specific stadia they have in south florida? seems as if the tournament is using only MLS stadia for the tourney.
Dolphins stadium. Damn nice one too.
Post by: Peong on July 12, 2015, 06:20:44 PM
Why no games in Miami? Any of the Caribbean and UNCAF teams woulda pull a big crowd here. Cuba, Haiti, Jamaica, T&T have real ppl here.
what football specific stadia they have in south florida? seems as if the tournament is using only MLS stadia for the tourney.
Nah g they not.
Post by: Deeks on July 12, 2015, 06:57:34 PM
Why no games in Miami? Any of the Caribbean and UNCAF teams woulda pull a big crowd here. Cuba, Haiti, Jamaica, T&T have real ppl here.
what football specific stadia they have in south florida? seems as if the tournament is using only MLS stadia for the tourney.
Nah g they not.
This tournament has not used MLS stadium with the exception of Boston. And that is an American football stadium. Chicago belong to the Bears. Phoenix belong to the Cardinals. And if they had games in Miami, they could have used, sunLiife stadium. The Miami Dolphins stadium
Post by: g on July 12, 2015, 07:34:40 PM
Why no games in Miami? Any of the Caribbean and UNCAF teams woulda pull a big crowd here. Cuba, Haiti, Jamaica, T&T have real ppl here.
what football specific stadia they have in south florida? seems as if the tournament is using only MLS stadia for the tourney.
Nah g they not.
This tournament has not used MLS stadium with the exception of Boston. And that is an American football stadium. Chicago belong to the Bears. Phoenix belong to the Cardinals. And if they had games in Miami, they could have used, sunLiife stadium. The Miami Dolphins stadium
I hear yuh both, was it a bid system for venues? I agree Miami would have been a big market for these games regardless of who playing except for the US probably.
Post by: E-man on July 12, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 12, 2015, 08:54:26 PM
Post by: Controversial on July 12, 2015, 10:10:32 PM
not with that z team they came with. how you expect cuba to beat us when they were traunched 6-0 by a mexican B team? even if cuba got back their 6 players on time to face us, they have never beaten us in serious competition except for PK's. even when we were a weaker team we held them goaless from the run of play on quite a few occasions, so why when they are at the weakest they have ever been suddenly have the where-with-all to beat us? i don't add up mate.I don't see that happening. In all likelihood, both Ja and T&Twill end runners up in their respective groups.... Jamaica's group is still wide open, all 4 teams locked on points. Hate to say this, but I suspect Cuba will probably present you guys with a harder challenge than Guatemala.... and Guatemala might end up coming away with a respectable score against Mexico... central American teams match up better with Mexico than does the Caribbean teams imho.
Jamaica will have to fight hard and play a disciplined game to get anything out of the Canada game. At least a point is needed to stay on track.
Some things never change... Once a blue crab, always a blue crab..
Indirectly I'm wishing yard the best and you ups and talking and bunch of rubbish...
Think before you talk and make sure you do your research before you chat that rubbish again..
Ok, no need to blow a fuse bro. Mexico 3 Guatemala 0, t&t 6 Cuba 0. Done deal.
Actually, you missed the point I made. read my post again and show me where I said Cuba will beat anyone?
Sorry there boss, but I believe we will be playing either Haiti, el sal or Canada..
Post by: reggae-fan on July 13, 2015, 04:10:23 AM
Guatemala hold on for the tie pleaseeeee :praying:
Saw this coming. Guatemala, quite frankly matches up Better with central American/Mexican teams than they do with teams from the Caribbean... they simply don't know how to handle the physical style and athleticism of the Caribbean boys. Same is true for El Salvador, if you look closely you will realize that both El Salvador and Guatemala traditionally have significantly less black players in their squad when compared to Honduras, Panama, Costa Rica. This is no coincidence.
Guatemala has kept themselves in the hunt for a chance to advance... Cuba already eliminated has nothing to play for but pride at this point.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 13, 2015, 04:44:12 AM
Guatemala hold on for the tie pleaseeeee :praying:
Saw this coming. Guatemala, quite frankly matches up Better with central American/Mexican teams than they do with teams from the Caribbean... they simply don't know how to handle the physical style and athleticism of the Caribbean boys. Same is true for El Salvador, if you look closely you will realize that both El Salvador and Guatemala traditionally have significantly less black players in their squad when compared to Honduras, Panama, Costa Rica. This is no coincidence.
Guatemala has kept themselves in the hunt for a chance to advance... Cuba already eliminated has nothing to play for but pride at this point.
You shouldn't start your day with nonsense. As it's "no coincidence", what is it attributable to?
Post by: reggae-fan on July 13, 2015, 05:56:40 AM
You shouldn't start your day with nonsense. As it's "no coincidence", what is it attributable to?
I'd imagine the reason the likes of Panama, Honduras, and Costa Rica has more players of African descent on their national team is because of the makeup of their population. El Salvador and Guatemala has significantly less African ancestry than the big three UNCAF teams. It would make sense to reason therefore that the domestic leagues in both El Salvador and ?Guatemala has less of these players.... and as a result, they have a harder time matching up with the very physical and athletics nature of such players. Of course, I can be wrong, have been many times in the past.
You probably reading too much between the lines. Its clear cut - Its no coincidence that Guatemala and El Salvador has not had much success in recent times..., Guatemala has yet to qualify for a senior Men's world cup, while el Salvador last qualified some 40 years ago. the top three UNCAF teams composition tells the picture. You don't have to agree. Note Edison Cavani and Carlos Ruiz comments about Jamaica and T&T recently to the press. USA and Canada following suit as well. Mexico is an anomaly.
Look at the current gold cup group standings, surprise, two Caribbean teams are at the top of two of the three groups.
You don't have to agree with my assessment... its just an opinion.
Post by: truehaitian on July 13, 2015, 07:13:57 AM
I've been watching Gold cup since day I, I always felt and believed in the past that Gold are made and set up for USA and Mexico to win it. This the first time watching the gold cup that I truly believe a Caribbean team can win it. After looking at Mexico(Last night) and the US VS Haiti and Honduras.. I really believe T&T and / or Jamaica can beat both teams in the semis as well as Haiti(if they make it in the next round). Wouldn't that be nice to see an all out CFU team Gold cup finals and Mexico and the US out for the first time. I will even be happy to see, just a CFU team in the finals.
Don't you guys agree with me that a CFU team can win it this year or at the very least has a best chance of win it more than ever..?
Post by: Controversial on July 13, 2015, 07:39:08 AM
Off topics a little my fellow caribbeans. First, I would congratualte T&T on their safe and conving passage into the second round. Job well done!
I've been watching Gold cup since day I, I always felt and believed in the past that Gold are made and set up for USA and Mexico to win it. This the first time watching the gold cup that I truly believe a Caribbean team can win it. After looking at Mexico(Last night) and the US VS Haiti and Honduras.. I really believe T&T and / or Jamaica can beat both teams in the semis as well as Haiti(if they make it in the next round). Wouldn't that be nice to see an all out CFU team Gold cup finals and Mexico and the US out for the first time. I will even be happy to see, just a CFU team in the finals.
Don't you guys agree with me that a CFU team can win it this year or at the very least has a best chance of win it more than ever..?
I think they definitely have a chance... Haiti played some good football the other night, was surprised they didn't come away with a draw or win..
Post by: asylumseeker on July 13, 2015, 07:52:17 AM
You shouldn't start your day with nonsense. As it's "no coincidence", what is it attributable to?
I'd imagine the reason the likes of Panama, Honduras, and Costa Rica has more players of African descent on their national team is because of the makeup of their population. El Salvador and Guatemala has significantly less African ancestry than the big three UNCAF teams. It would make sense to reason therefore that the domestic leagues in both El Salvador and ?Guatemala has less of these players.... and as a result, they have a harder time matching up with the very physical and athletics nature of such players. Of course, I can be wrong, have been many times in the past.
You probably reading too much between the lines. Its clear cut - Its no coincidence that Guatemala and El Salvador has not had much success in recent times..., Guatemala has yet to qualify for a senior Men's world cup, while el Salvador last qualified some 40 years ago. the top three UNCAF teams composition tells the picture. You don't have to agree. Note Edison Cavani and Carlos Ruiz comments about Jamaica and T&T recently to the press. USA and Canada following suit as well. Mexico is an anomaly.
Look at the current gold cup group standings, surprise, two Caribbean teams are at the top of two of the three groups.
You don't have to agree with my assessment... its just an opinion.
???
Still trying to see how you see race (black players) as being informative or telling or instructive.
What am I reading into it? That Guatemala's program hasn't achieved success because they lack black players? Same thing with El Salvador? That seems to be your assertion.
I'm aware of Cavani's comment (just can't believe you're using his comment in serious conversation). What did Ruiz have to say?
Post by: reggae-fan on July 13, 2015, 09:30:05 AM
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Still trying to see how you see race (black players) as being informative or telling or instructive.
What am I reading into it? That Guatemala's program hasn't achieved success because they lack black players? Same thing with El Salvador? That seems to be your assertion.
I'm aware of Cavani's comment (just can't believe you're using his comment in serious conversation). What did Ruiz have to say?
Its not specifically an issue of race, its more to do with them not being able to cope with the physical, athletic/speedy style of the Caribbean teams, and the elite UNCAF teams(HON, PAN, CRC), in general.
you reading too much between the lines.
Post by: reggae-fan on July 13, 2015, 09:38:43 AM
Don't you guys agree with me that a CFU team can win it this year or at the very least has a best chance of win it more than ever..?
Agreed, with the exception of Cuba, who reportedly are having internal issues, id say the Caribbean teams have so far looked good at the tournament. Haiti might have had the toughest of the three groups (PAN, HON, USA) fact that you are still in contention with just one round to go in the prelims is a feather in your cap.
It will get tougher in the later rounds, plus as always we will have to be mindful of the officials, as we are perceived to be overly physical.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 13, 2015, 09:56:27 AM
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Still trying to see how you see race (black players) as being informative or telling or instructive.
What am I reading into it? That Guatemala's program hasn't achieved success because they lack black players? Same thing with El Salvador? That seems to be your assertion.
I'm aware of Cavani's comment (just can't believe you're using his comment in serious conversation). What did Ruiz have to say?
Its not specifically an issue of race, its more to do with them not being able to cope with the physical, athletic/speedy style of the Caribbean teams, and the elite UNCAF teams(HON, PAN, CRC), in general.
you reading too much between the lines.
Don't start backpedaling now. Have we not always been physical, athletic and speedy? Why didn't it matter to them before? What does history show?
Two words come to mind: false positive.
Post by: reggae-fan on July 13, 2015, 10:12:35 AM
Don't start backpedaling now. Have we not always been physical, athletic and speedy? Why didn't it matter to them before? What does history show?
Two words come to mind: false positive.
Let me help you out. Stats don't lie brother.
Guate vs Jamaica (90% winning record for Jamaica)
http://www.soccerpunter.com/soccer-statistics/N-C-America/WC-Qualification-CONCACAF-2014-Brazil/head_to_head_statistics/all/1319_Jamaica/1094_Guatemala
Guate vs T&T (overall winning record for T&T)
http://www.soccerpunter.com/soccer-statistics/N-C-America/CONCACAF-Gold-Cup-2015/head_to_head_statistics/all/2210_Trinidad_and_Tobago/1094_Guatemala
Ill dig up the El Salvador stats in a few
Post by: palos on July 13, 2015, 11:17:29 AM
They obviously cope quite well with the "physical, atthletic/speedy style of the Caribbean teams"
Post by: reggae-fan on July 13, 2015, 12:14:14 PM
Last I checked, Mexico doesn't have many, if any, players of African descent in their national team or domestic leagues.
They obviously cope quite well with the "physical, atthletic/speedy style of the Caribbean teams"
That's an interesting point. I pointed out earlier in this thread that they are an anomaly...they are simply put better than all the other CONCACAF nations backed by one of the strongest domestic leagues outside of Europe. In fact if Mexico were to join CONMEBOL, I believe they would still be regulars at the world cup, albeit perhaps not as regularly as they do from CONCACAF. But they do have theor fair share of issues against fast, rugged style of play...i believe honduras had has a decent string of results against them in recent years.
Post by: JRtheWriter on July 13, 2015, 12:17:37 PM
:beermug:
Post by: asylumseeker on July 13, 2015, 12:44:09 PM
Post by: Controversial on July 13, 2015, 01:41:49 PM
Soooo yea....don't mind me, I'm just trying to figure out what section we're gonna be in and if we're tailgating. I live in Brooklyn and got my car so I can bring some stuff if y'all need me to. Gonna be a fun day no matter who we play.
:beermug:
Agreed brother... We should start organizing a lime from now.. :beermug:
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on July 13, 2015, 04:52:28 PM
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on July 13, 2015, 05:23:33 PM
Post by: pull stones on July 13, 2015, 05:23:47 PM
Off topics a little my fellow caribbeans. First, I would congratualte T&T on their safe and conving passage into the second round. Job well done!that would be great, but the reality is that would be an empty stadium for the final and concacaf would not risk losing the kind of cash. either mexico the the united states has to be in the final for it to work especially when caribbean people don't really care to support football anymore.
I've been watching Gold cup since day I, I always felt and believed in the past that Gold are made and set up for USA and Mexico to win it. This the first time watching the gold cup that I truly believe a Caribbean team can win it. After looking at Mexico(Last night) and the US VS Haiti and Honduras.. I really believe T&T and / or Jamaica can beat both teams in the semis as well as Haiti(if they make it in the next round). Wouldn't that be nice to see an all out CFU team Gold cup finals and Mexico and the US out for the first time. I will even be happy to see, just a CFU team in the finals.
Don't you guys agree with me that a CFU team can win it this year or at the very least has a best chance of win it more than ever..?
Post by: reggae-fan on July 13, 2015, 05:54:31 PM
Mexico is only an anomaly because it serves your position. How anomalous is Belize?
Belize? That's stretching it a bit.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 13, 2015, 05:58:39 PM
Mexico is only an anomaly because it serves your position. How anomalous is Belize?
Belize? That's stretching it a bit.
Why? They're in Central America ... have a population meeting the demographics and physical/athletics/speed ... and play Guatemala now and again.
Post by: Deeks on July 13, 2015, 06:00:08 PM
Mexico is only an anomaly because it serves your position. How anomalous is Belize?
Belize? That's stretching it a bit.
Belize has a pretty mixed population. Quite a few people of Quatemalan decent went over when the Quat. military was purging the country side in the 80s. As a matter of fact, they have a pretty strong West Indian culture too.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 13, 2015, 06:01:25 PM
By Jacqueline Charles (Miami Herald).
(http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/haiti/3ebr0v/picture27165097/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/haiti%20soccer%20(2))
Jeff Louis, right, shakes hands with a teammate after Haiti scored against Panama during the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup on July 7, 2015 in Frisco, Texas. Louis missed his flight from Boston to Kansas City and will not be on the field Monday in the 7 p.m. matchup between Haiti and Honduras.
As if losing to the U.S. men's national soccer team in the Gold Cup's Group A wasn't bad enough, Haiti also will have to face a critical match for second place without two of its 23 players, the Haiti Football Federation confirmed.
Defender Jean Jacques Pierre and midfielder Jeff Louis missed their flight from Boston to Kansas City and will not be on the field Monday in the 7 p.m. matchup between Haiti and Honduras.
This is not a case of Haitian players defecting, like Cuban athletes have done in the past, the federation said in a statement on its Facebook page. "It is a case of undisciplined players being dissatisfied with their status on the team," said Carlo Marcelin, secretary general of the federation. CONCACAF and FIFA both have been notified, and an investigation is under way, Marcelin added.
Pierre was team captain of Les Grenadiers.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 13, 2015, 06:29:02 PM
Post by: Deeks on July 13, 2015, 06:38:57 PM
Two words come to mind: false positive.
When TT joined CONCACAF in the early 60s, we used to have a difficult time beating them with our "speed and physicality". The Centros always had the one-touch football IQ which I think we lacked. The first time we played Quatemala in the WC, we got 4 from them in the first game and tie 0-0 in the second. It did not help that we played both WC games in Quat. because of lack of money. This lack of money goes way back.
But later when our players started to improve we started to match them. We beat Quat. 1-0 in Haiti and beat Mex 4-0. We still can't beat CR. I don't think we ever beat them in WC. They have that one-touch IQ and players with 'speed and physicality". They know how to play Caribbean teams. We may beat them on a couple occasions, but not in WC. We have had some epic battles with Honduras. We have also have a mixed bag with El Sal. In recent years we appear to have had the upper hand on them. But in the beginning it was not so. Panama has improved and can match us with the same speed, etc, etc. So I don't know where this speed and physicality thing going. I definitely want football IQ with speed and physicality. Without those three, we not going anywhere.
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on July 13, 2015, 06:57:31 PM
Post by: socalion on July 13, 2015, 07:06:20 PM
Post by: truehaitian on July 13, 2015, 07:24:27 PM
I almost had heart-attack in this game. The two best players walk away from the team and return to France due to disagreement with the coach. One Key midfielder( current PSJ player and former Standard De liege, Jeff-Louis) and key defense player( Jean Jacques Pierre). As you can see Haiti, had no midfield, and couldn't play the way we did against the US. We really miss this due in the midfield. I was hopping that all 4 Caribbean teams made it in the second round but it looks like we're going to get 3 out of 4.
Post by: fari on July 13, 2015, 07:26:22 PM
Thanks guys!
I almost had heart-attack in this game. The two best players walk away from the team and return to France due to disagreement with the coach. One Key midfielder( current PSJ player and former Standard De liege, Jeff-Louis) and key defense player( Jean Jacques Pierre). As you can see Haiti, had no midfield, and couldn't play the way we did against the US. We really miss this due in the midfield. I was hopping that all 4 Caribbean teams made it in the second round but it looks like we're going to get 3 out of 4.
well done compere...I am sad that the two best players walked away from the team. In the words of comedian Majah Hype..."that's the devil!"
Post by: asylumseeker on July 13, 2015, 07:30:11 PM
Thanks guys!
I almost had heart-attack in this game. The two best players walk away from the team and return to France due to disagreement with the coach. One Key midfielder( current PSJ player and former Standard De liege, Jeff-Louis) and key defense player( Jean Jacques Pierre). As you can see Haiti, had no midfield, and couldn't play the way we did against the US. We really miss this due in the midfield. I was hopping that all 4 Caribbean teams made it in the second round but it looks like we're going to get 3 out of 4.
So ... they didn't show up at all? Ouch! Miami Herald suggested they were just late.
Congrats, nonetheless brother. (By the way, I saw a clip of the Haitian massif leaving the game versus the US ... it looked like Kanaval. Someone who was there was blown away. Told me that the soccer mom types were uncomfortably clinging to the walls trying to exit. :rotfl: Not being accustomed to such interaction ... and trying to understand how ppl could be so festive and happy after a loss).
Post by: Preacher on July 13, 2015, 07:50:33 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 13, 2015, 08:18:36 PM
Post by: E-man on July 13, 2015, 08:19:51 PM
Post by: Preacher on July 13, 2015, 08:20:07 PM
Third game they play with fire and get burn.
Post by: Bitter on July 13, 2015, 08:22:20 PM
Goal Panama. If we beat Mexico we could win the Goal Cup.
Third game they play with fire and get burn.
long way to go still.
Post by: futbolfan on July 13, 2015, 08:23:26 PM
Post by: Preacher on July 13, 2015, 08:41:07 PM
Goal Panama. If we beat Mexico we could win the Goal Cup.
Third game they play with fire and get burn.
long way to go still.
Not that far... ;)
Post by: futbolfan on July 13, 2015, 08:54:54 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 13, 2015, 08:59:32 PM
Goal Panama. If we beat Mexico we could win the Goal Cup.
Third game they play with fire and get burn.
long way to go still.
Not that far... ;)
like i was saying.... :whistling:
Post by: Preacher on July 13, 2015, 09:14:32 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 13, 2015, 09:23:34 PM
Panama need to stop inching their attacks and just press. playing to slow in the final third.
Yep.
Is not like if the forwards not making runs, they just not brave enough to try the pass.
Post by: Deeks on July 13, 2015, 09:51:27 PM
A few years ago TT was playing US in a WC game in Virginia. Dwight, Latas, Nakhid, Nixon, Rougier,etc. Big Trini crowd there with rhythm section. We lost 2-0. And after game, the crowd come out the stadium. The Trini had the rhythm section going. We heading up to the parking lot. So it have police trying to direction traffic and kind of controlling a well-behaved and festive Trini posse. Ah policemen say, "congratulations, I see you guys won". We answered back, "no officer, we lost". He look very perplexed to say the least.
Post by: reggae-fan on July 14, 2015, 02:49:37 AM
Thanks guys!
I almost had heart-attack in this game. The two best players walk away from the team and return to France due to disagreement with the coach. One Key midfielder( current PSJ player and former Standard De liege, Jeff-Louis) and key defense player( Jean Jacques Pierre). As you can see Haiti, had no midfield, and couldn't play the way we did against the US. We really miss this due in the midfield. I was hopping that all 4 Caribbean teams made it in the second round but it looks like we're going to get 3 out of 4.
Congrats, the better team won on the night. It's setting up to be possibly [Haiti vs Jamaica] quarter final IF Jamaica finds the will to beat El Salvador tonight. I'm sure both sets of fans(Haitians/Jamaicans) will fancy their team highly against each other. I suspect both Jamaica and Haiti are vastly improved since the last time both teams met in the Caribbean cup semi finals last year.
Post by: frico on July 14, 2015, 04:23:12 AM
PS. Panama, i forgot bout them,are they Caribbean or Central Americans,Geography says they are CA,but heritage makes them more kind of Caribbean peeps.
Post by: Deeks on July 14, 2015, 05:28:31 AM
Post by: royal on July 14, 2015, 05:33:30 AM
Frico, the Central Americans will tell you they suffered at the hands of Jack Warner.
not like us
Post by: frico on July 14, 2015, 05:49:43 AM
Frico, the Central Americans will tell you they suffered at the hands of Jack Warner.Living in England makes it difficult to understand what is happening at home,I used to think that JW was the savior of TT football,as the saying goes "the cat has now been let out the bag";I still feel that we have to knock the cocky Central Americans of their perch,I can see,it's slowly going to happen.
Post by: reggae-fan on July 14, 2015, 06:35:59 AM
I have been waiting for years to see our Caribbean teams do well,what more can I ask,to see TT,Jamaica and Haiti through to the quarters is magic,would even be better if one of them can win the GC.Our football have suffered for years at the hands of those Central Americans,the table seems to be turning now.I wish TT and Haiti the best but I feel Jamaica will go close,or even win it.
PS. Panama, i forgot bout them,are they Caribbean or Central Americans,Geography says they are CA,but heritage makes them more kind of Caribbean peeps.
Paulo Wanchope, Joel Campbell and Patton Philips(Panama) have acknowledged their Jamaican ancestry.
Interesting read here about the black population in Costa Rica and its connection to the caribbean.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Costa_Rican
"The largest Costa Rican black community is from the Caribbean, which today constitutes the majority of the Costa Rican black population. Costa Rica has the largest Jamaican diaspora after Cuba and Panama and its development as a nation is witness to his contribution.[3]"
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 14, 2015, 06:40:10 AM
I have been waiting for years to see our Caribbean teams do well,what more can I ask,to see TT,Jamaica and Haiti through to the quarters is magic,would even be better if one of them can win the GC.Our football have suffered for years at the hands of those Central Americans,the table seems to be turning now.I wish TT and Haiti the best but I feel Jamaica will go close,or even win it.
PS. Panama, i forgot bout them,are they Caribbean or Central Americans,Geography says they are CA,but heritage makes them more kind of Caribbean peeps.
Indeed. This Gold cup is slowly shaping up to be the Caribbean's coming out party.
Haiti's win yesterday was not only a huge upset to Honduras, but also Central American football. I calling these predictions:
Although Canada is playing like crap, they have a home game and the forecast for today is cool and wet. I think the crowd will get behind Canada. The Canucks will beat the Ticos and send them home on the stopover flight that Honduras will be on.
Jamaica will play very conservative but physical. El Salvador will not be easy to break. All Jamaica needs is a tie. I expect them to get it and win the group.
Canada will get second with a surprise win over Costa Rica. And El Salvador third with a tie to Jamaica.
By the end of this tournament, all of these Central American teams will be referring to Haiti, Jamaica and Trinbago as " the black beasts"..
Post by: lefty on July 14, 2015, 07:00:12 AM
Post by: silverllama on July 14, 2015, 07:25:33 AM
would this be the first time that more than one CFU team could make the second round of a gold cup
Great time to do it as well, as it could lead to multiple Caribbean teams in next year's Cops America Centenario. (A s long as it doesn't get cancel)
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 14, 2015, 07:40:47 AM
Thanks guys!
I almost had heart-attack in this game. The two best players walk away from the team and return to France due to disagreement with the coach. One Key midfielder( current PSJ player and former Standard De liege, Jeff-Louis) and key defense player( Jean Jacques Pierre). As you can see Haiti, had no midfield, and couldn't play the way we did against the US. We really miss this due in the midfield. I was hopping that all 4 Caribbean teams made it in the second round but it looks like we're going to get 3 out of 4.
Truehatian, I luv the brand of football that Haiti play. Their style is very attractive. And probably the most entertaining team in the tournament.
My Haitian friend was telling me about a quasi semi pro team in South Florida that acts as a "farm team" to Haiti's national team. Do you know anything about this team? Apparently a few national team players have come from this team..
Post by: soccerman on July 14, 2015, 08:53:54 AM
Not being accustomed to such interaction ... and trying to understand how ppl could be so festive and happy after a loss).
A few years ago TT was playing US in a WC game in Virginia. Dwight, Latas, Nakhid, Nixon, Rougier,etc. Big Trini crowd there with rhythm section. We lost 2-0. And after game, the crowd come out the stadium. The Trini had the rhythm section going. We heading up to the parking lot. So it have police trying to direction traffic and kind of controlling a well-behaved and festive Trini posse. Ah policemen say, "congratulations, I see you guys won". We answered back, "no officer, we lost". He look very perplexed to say the least.
Same exact thing happened in Tennessee after we lost 3-0. A US fan walked up to me and said I admire your country for this, if I didn't know better I would've think you guys won lol.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 14, 2015, 09:01:11 AM
Post by: reggae-fan on July 14, 2015, 09:26:38 AM
Frico, the Central Americans will tell you they suffered at the hands of Jack Warner.Living in England makes it difficult to understand what is happening at home,I used to think that JW was the savior of TT football,as the saying goes "the cat has now been let out the bag";I still feel that we have to knock the cocky Central Americans of their perch,I can see,it's slowly going to happen.
Anyone who believes that Jack Warner did nothing for T&T, to a lesser extent Jamaica, and CFU football overall is disillusioned.
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on July 14, 2015, 09:48:37 AM
https://beta.beanbagsports.com/#post/19252
Post by: Controversial on July 14, 2015, 09:55:57 AM
Well speaking of a stronger Caribbean, Suriname has started to change their eligibility laws. As of now it seems that those born in Suriname but moved to the Netherlands are now eligible but they are still working on changing the laws for those born in the Netherlands of Suriname descent. Coach Dean Gorre has stated though that the team will improve they will also struggle from the lack of funding that holds the rest of the Caribbean back. Here's his post yesterday.
https://beta.beanbagsports.com/#post/19252
My uncle has mentioned this to me... Bear in mind, they will attract some very good players back to Suriname .... A force to reckon with in years to come after the law is changed...
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on July 14, 2015, 09:59:49 AM
Well speaking of a stronger Caribbean, Suriname has started to change their eligibility laws. As of now it seems that those born in Suriname but moved to the Netherlands are now eligible but they are still working on changing the laws for those born in the Netherlands of Suriname descent. Coach Dean Gorre has stated though that the team will improve they will also struggle from the lack of funding that holds the rest of the Caribbean back. Here's his post yesterday.
https://beta.beanbagsports.com/#post/19252
My uncle has mentioned this to me... Bear in mind, they will attract some very good players back to Suriname .... A force to reckon with in years to come after the law is changed...
More competition is a good thing. I'm tired of Cuba getting a place in the Gold Cup every year and embarrassing the region. If they get the 4th carib qualifier for the gold cup you are looking at a situation where all nations can realistically go into the tournament with thoughts of making a deep run.
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 14, 2015, 11:24:42 AM
Not being accustomed to such interaction ... and trying to understand how ppl could be so festive and happy after a loss).
A few years ago TT was playing US in a WC game in Virginia. Dwight, Latas, Nakhid, Nixon, Rougier,etc. Big Trini crowd there with rhythm section. We lost 2-0. And after game, the crowd come out the stadium. The Trini had the rhythm section going. We heading up to the parking lot. So it have police trying to direction traffic and kind of controlling a well-behaved and festive Trini posse. Ah policemen say, "congratulations, I see you guys won". We answered back, "no officer, we lost". He look very perplexed to say the least.
Drove from Atlanta for this game w/a crew, was a nice vibe despite the loss. I could not muster the energy to do the same after losing to Hengerland in Nuremberg
Post by: Controversial on July 14, 2015, 11:36:58 AM
Not being accustomed to such interaction ... and trying to understand how ppl could be so festive and happy after a loss).
A few years ago TT was playing US in a WC game in Virginia. Dwight, Latas, Nakhid, Nixon, Rougier,etc. Big Trini crowd there with rhythm section. We lost 2-0. And after game, the crowd come out the stadium. The Trini had the rhythm section going. We heading up to the parking lot. So it have police trying to direction traffic and kind of controlling a well-behaved and festive Trini posse. Ah policemen say, "congratulations, I see you guys won". We answered back, "no officer, we lost". He look very perplexed to say the least.
Drove from Atlanta for this game w/a crew, was a nice vibe despite the loss. I could not muster the energy to do the same after losing to Hengerland in Nuremberg
me andre samuel, JBD and a few other fellahs lime till 6 am in the morning after nuremberg... we was vex but we still went out and drink and party... best way to console the loss ;D
Post by: palos on July 14, 2015, 01:00:40 PM
Not being accustomed to such interaction ... and trying to understand how ppl could be so festive and happy after a loss).
A few years ago TT was playing US in a WC game in Virginia. Dwight, Latas, Nakhid, Nixon, Rougier,etc. Big Trini crowd there with rhythm section. We lost 2-0. And after game, the crowd come out the stadium. The Trini had the rhythm section going. We heading up to the parking lot. So it have police trying to direction traffic and kind of controlling a well-behaved and festive Trini posse. Ah policemen say, "congratulations, I see you guys won". We answered back, "no officer, we lost". He look very perplexed to say the least.
That sound very similar to when T&T played at Foxboro. Same scoreline and almost same players too.
Dat was de famous truetrini "walmart ting" lime. Pressha! ;D
Post by: Flex on July 14, 2015, 03:46:31 PM
Jozy Altidore out of squad, will not play for USMNT in Gold Cup knockout stage
By Joe Prince-Wright
Jozy Altidore will not play any part in the USMNT’s run to the 2015 Gold Cup final.
Altidore, 25, sent out the following message after the U.S. national team’s group stage campaign came to a close in Kansas City on Monday with the U.S. settling for a 1-1 with Panama.
“Always a pleasure to be a part of U.S. Soccer all the best to the boys the rest of the way!” Altidore wrote on his Twitter account on Tuesday morning.
The Toronto FC forward failed to score in the two games he played in against Honduras and Haiti. He was replaced at half time against Haiti by Gyasi Zardes and was an unused substitute in the draw with Panama. Altidore suffered a hamstring injury in May but made a speedy recovery to be fit in time for the Gold Cup campaign, however he is lacking match fitness and that was a big reason why he has been released.
Head coach of the U.S. national team Jurgen Klinsmann revealed his decision on Tuesday.
“We believe that Jozy’s just not there yet. Jozy never really got into this tournament and never really picked up the rhythm,” Klinsmann said. “He’s just simply not in the shape right now to help us. For Jozy it’s just simply going back to Toronto, picking up his rhythm, getting in shape, working on his fitness and then he will start scoring goals again. That’s why Alan Gordon was on the standby roster from the beginning and that’s why we brought him in.”
As for the U.S., losing the second-biggest goal threat available to you and the fifth highest scorer in USMNT history — with 27 goals in 83 outings — will no doubt be a blow for the knockout rounds.
Klinsmann announced his new squad in full for the knockout stages of the Gold Cup, as any team reaching the last eight can replace up to six players on their roster for the group stages with members of their provisional roster.
In total there were there changes with Gordon coming in for Altidore, DaMarcus Beasley for Greg Garza and Joe Corona replaces Alfredo Morales in midfield.
Post by: Preacher on July 14, 2015, 03:51:36 PM
Post by: truehaitian on July 14, 2015, 04:05:20 PM
Well speaking of a stronger Caribbean, Suriname has started to change their eligibility laws. As of now it seems that those born in Suriname but moved to the Netherlands are now eligible but they are still working on changing the laws for those born in the Netherlands of Suriname descent. Coach Dean Gorre has stated though that the team will improve they will also struggle from the lack of funding that holds the rest of the Caribbean back. Here's his post yesterday.
https://beta.beanbagsports.com/#post/19252
I'm tired of Cuba getting a place in the Gold Cup every year and embarrassing the region. If they get the 4th carib qualifier for the gold cup you are looking at a situation where all nations can realistically go into the tournament with thoughts of making a deep run.
This might be surprising to you but believe it or not Cuba is not yet eliminated and can still get with a win today. In group A, Panama sits with 3 points and +0 goal, If Cuba win the game 9-0 LOL , they're in . They will have 3 points +1 goal and will win the third best spot over Panama and Guatemala
Post by: Preacher on July 14, 2015, 04:24:55 PM
Post by: reggae-fan on July 14, 2015, 06:11:46 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 14, 2015, 06:43:04 PM
QF: Jamaica vs Haiti, winner advances to Semi final.
Congrats on winning your game and group :beermug:
Post by: socalion on July 14, 2015, 06:46:28 PM
Post by: reggae-fan on July 14, 2015, 06:50:50 PM
My concern now is that the Copa America and now heavy gold cup schedule is beginning to take a toll on the players when played both tourneys.
Mattocks red carded and will miss quarters and semis.
Post by: socalion on July 14, 2015, 07:03:50 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 14, 2015, 08:39:28 PM
Post by: Dinner Mints on July 14, 2015, 09:25:45 PM
Canada have a serious blight, 568 mins without a goalI never see Canada play bad, yet I never see Canada succeed.
I doh watch Canada too much, though.
Post by: pull stones on July 14, 2015, 10:09:39 PM
cuba don't need to win 9-0 just a win would do then they and panama would advance remember el ticos came in second with 3 points and el salvador is on 2 point from 2 draws and a loss. cuba just needs to beat guatemala by one goal and they are in.Well speaking of a stronger Caribbean, Suriname has started to change their eligibility laws. As of now it seems that those born in Suriname but moved to the Netherlands are now eligible but they are still working on changing the laws for those born in the Netherlands of Suriname descent. Coach Dean Gorre has stated though that the team will improve they will also struggle from the lack of funding that holds the rest of the Caribbean back. Here's his post yesterday.
https://beta.beanbagsports.com/#post/19252
I'm tired of Cuba getting a place in the Gold Cup every year and embarrassing the region. If they get the 4th carib qualifier for the gold cup you are looking at a situation where all nations can realistically go into the tournament with thoughts of making a deep run.
This might be surprising to you but believe it or not Cuba is not yet eliminated and can still get with a win today. In group A, Panama sits with 3 points and +0 goal, If Cuba win the game 9-0 LOL , they're in . They will have 3 points +1 goal and will win the third best spot over Panama and Guatemala
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on July 14, 2015, 10:35:51 PM
Post by: JRtheWriter on July 15, 2015, 08:47:20 AM
So there was a thread and now I can't find it. Any information bout a tailgate/lime before the game on Sunday? Also, can we get a section for all of us to sit & cheer our boys on? Wanted to buy my tickets soon.
:beermug:
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 15, 2015, 09:25:15 AM
Post by: JRtheWriter on July 15, 2015, 09:30:00 AM
Buy, b/c they are going quick, I know folks are in sects 121 and 126, sure there is more, but I would not hesitate
Thanks! Do you know if I should just buy tickets in the 100 section and see if I can just move over to 121/126 or should I look specifically at 121/126?
Post by: darrel3000 on July 15, 2015, 09:32:03 AM
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Post by: darrel3000 on July 15, 2015, 09:47:16 AM
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 15, 2015, 09:54:03 AM
Buy, b/c they are going quick, I know folks are in sects 121 and 126, sure there is more, but I would not hesitate
Thanks! Do you know if I should just buy tickets in the 100 section and see if I can just move over to 121/126 or should I look specifically at 121/126?
Stadium will be filled on Sunday, that plus taxes is a sure bet, don't know if TM or Flex have more info re-the TT sections, but in the absence of that you can go w/121 or 126
Post by: Bally on July 15, 2015, 01:59:58 PM
Post by: Sando prince on July 15, 2015, 02:34:21 PM
Like Laventille Rhythym Section have to make ah trip for this game. Ah seeing rhel vibes from now :)
Post by: Controversial on July 15, 2015, 02:37:11 PM
Like Laventille Rhythym Section have to make ah trip for this game. Ah seeing rhel vibes from now :)
ah wish but i'm sure brooklyn have a iron side that does pong well... the rama in brooklyn is 2nd to TT..
Post by: Controversial on July 15, 2015, 02:38:12 PM
Buy, b/c they are going quick, I know folks are in sects 121 and 126, sure there is more, but I would not hesitate
Thanks! Do you know if I should just buy tickets in the 100 section and see if I can just move over to 121/126 or should I look specifically at 121/126?
Stadium will be filled on Sunday, that plus taxes is a sure bet, don't know if TM or Flex have more info re-the TT sections, but in the absence of that you can go w/121 or 126
any limes before?? any DJs throwing a fete afterwards???
Post by: JRtheWriter on July 15, 2015, 02:39:38 PM
:beermug:
Post by: FF on July 15, 2015, 03:09:25 PM
Unfortunately I am finishing a course and starting a residential camp on Sunday, so I will not be able to join. I am devastated. Had my eye on this quarterfinal location for some time :-[
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 15, 2015, 03:16:20 PM
Good luck to the team and have a safe time everyone.
Unfortunately I am finishing a course and starting a residential camp on Sunday, so I will not be able to join. I am devastated. Had my eye on this quarterfinal location for some time :-[
No seen dread, dais a serious hard luck but not to worry, will ketch yuh in Atlanta ;D
Post by: CAPITANO on July 15, 2015, 04:31:48 PM
Post by: Socaman on July 15, 2015, 05:46:42 PM
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 15, 2015, 05:47:49 PM
Post by: reggae-fan on July 15, 2015, 05:54:10 PM
Cuba is beating Guatemala 1-0. If this result holds, all 4 CFU teams will be in the knockout round. Great progress by the CFU teams.wait, Cuba gets in with a victory? At whose expense?
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 15, 2015, 05:55:16 PM
Cuba is beating Guatemala 1-0. If this result holds, all 4 CFU teams will be in the knockout round. Great progress by the CFU teams.wait, Cuba gets in with a victory? At whose expense?
El Salvador
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 15, 2015, 05:57:56 PM
Great for CFU. Hopefully the Caribbean starts getting the respect they deserve.
Post by: Deeks on July 15, 2015, 05:58:24 PM
Post by: Deeks on July 15, 2015, 05:59:36 PM
Cuba qualifies!
Great for CFU. Hopefully the Caribbean starts getting the respect they deserve.
We have to work on consistency to earn that respect. Right now leh we just win this one. Respect go come later.
Post by: Bitter on July 15, 2015, 06:01:44 PM
Big up to the CFU (not UNCAF like the fella on FSC say)
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 15, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
Cuba qualifies!
Great for CFU. Hopefully the Caribbean starts getting the respect they deserve.
We have to work on consistency to earn that respect. Right now leh we just win this one. Respect go come later.
I hear you Deeks. This was coming though. Hopefully the Central American teams stop seeing the CFU teams as their whipping boys.
This is the first time in Gold Cup history that all 4 CFU teams have qualified for the knockout round. Even better, it was at the expense of Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 15, 2015, 06:09:59 PM
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 15, 2015, 06:11:46 PM
That was a hell of a game.
Big up to the CFU (not UNCAF like the fella on FSC say)
Indeed. Many might not agree with me, but all of the games in the tournament were actually good. There was only one blow out. While the rest of the games ended in draws or decided by one goal (with our games being the exception)..
Post by: Flex on July 15, 2015, 06:19:26 PM
Despite his age Yénier Márquez is still playing a solid defence.
Ariel Martínez and Alain Cervantes looked good too.
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on July 15, 2015, 06:26:21 PM
Post by: palos on July 15, 2015, 06:29:14 PM
Cuba player Maikel Reyes is a very good player.
Despite his age Yénier Márquez is still playing a solid defence.
Ariel Martínez and Alain Cervantes looked good too.
I real like Cuba #18....tall, dark fella in midfield.
Their #10 also have real touches...and de fella who came in at striker against us....think is Reyes...is a good player too
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 15, 2015, 09:01:46 PM
Post by: trini_stallion on July 15, 2015, 09:34:45 PM
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 15, 2015, 10:41:56 PM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150716/sports/warriors-to-face-haitians-in-copa-2016
Post by: Controversial on July 15, 2015, 10:54:10 PM
So we got Haiti for a playoff for Copa Americano Centenario. I thought the spots were given to the teams who finished the highest. I guess I was wrong.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150716/sports/warriors-to-face-haitians-in-copa-2016
Very good news... I believe we can do it...
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 15, 2015, 11:07:22 PM
So we got Haiti for a playoff for Copa Americano Centenario. I thought the spots were given to the teams who finished the highest. I guess I was wrong.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150716/sports/warriors-to-face-haitians-in-copa-2016
Very good news... I believe we can do it...
I'm not sure what to believe. I believe whoever wins the gold cup qualifies for Copa Americano Centenario, this applies to country who haven't alreafy qualified. If that is true, then this article is already ruling us out from qualifying for Copa Americano Centenario by way of winning the tournament. I will check the qualification criteria again..
Post by: pull stones on July 16, 2015, 12:24:36 AM
there are two spots left and i assume that if we got pass panama into the semis then were are in the cup because there are four teams in the quarter finals who has not already qualify and only two can get into the semifinals. i am guessing those two reams will be the final two contenders.So we got Haiti for a playoff for Copa Americano Centenario. I thought the spots were given to the teams who finished the highest. I guess I was wrong.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150716/sports/warriors-to-face-haitians-in-copa-2016
Very good news... I believe we can do it...
I'm not sure what to believe. I believe whoever wins the gold cup qualifies for Copa Americano Centenario, this applies to country who haven't alreafy qualified. If that is true, then this article is already ruling us out from qualifying for Copa Americano Centenario by way of winning the tournament. I will check the qualification criteria again..
Post by: Flex on July 16, 2015, 01:51:13 AM
T&T Express Reports.
Trinidad and Tobago senior national football team will face Caribbean rivals Haiti for a place in the 2016 Copa Centro Americano.
The special 100th edition of the Copa, to be held in the United States next year, will see the senior national football teams of 10 South Americans nations, facing the best six in the CONCACAF region.
South America will be represented by Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Chile, Bolivia, Colombia, Peru, Uruguay, Venezuela and Ecuador.
Already qualified from CONCACAF are Mexico (Automatic qualifier), the United States (Automatic qualifier/host), Costa Rica (2014 Central America champions) and Jamaica, as 2014 Caribbean champions.
The final two CONCACAF qualifiers will be decided by two playoffs among four quarter-finalist of the 2015 CONCACAAF Gold Cup.
Trinidad and Tobago, the second-highest FIFA ranked CONCACAF team not yet qualified, will face third-highest ranked non qualifier Haiti, while top-ranked non-qualifier Panama face whichever of Guatemala/Cuba or El Salvador also reached the Gold Cup quarters. The two series winners will join the other four CONCACAF teams in the competition.''
Post by: asylumseeker on July 16, 2015, 05:38:33 AM
by Paul Kennedy (Soccer America).
As unconvincing as the USA has been so far at the Gold Cup, it remains in good shape to defend its title. It drew the weakest team left in the tournament for the quarterfinals: Cuba, which lost its first two games by a margin of 8-0, had four players detect but somehow beat Guatemala, 1-0, to reach the final eight. The big surprise is the presence in the quarterfinals of all four Caribbean teams, including group winners Trinidad & Tobago and Jamaica. Here's how the teams rank, based on their performances in the group stage ...
1. Trinidad & Tobago. Win your first two games, then come back twice against Mexico to earn a tie. Now, that's a good first round, especially for a team that was a longshot entering the tournament. "No one gave us any chance back home … to even win a game," said T&T coach Stephen Hart. "That’s what they were saying."
And that was before T&T rallied to tie Mexico, 4-4, and clinch first place in Group C on Wednesday night. The Soca Warriors trailed 2-0, blew a 3-2 lead with three minutes to play but still had enough to come back and tie El Tri on a goal by Yohance Marshall, who began his pro career out of USF with the LA Galaxy, later sent time in clubs in the USL, then in Thailand and Asia and now plays in El Salvador.
“It’s important for the people, for the young players back at home, it’s important for our football," said Hart, who became the second coach after Bruce Arena to qualify a team four times to the knockout phase (twice with Canada and now twice the Soca Warriors). "I cannot tell you how important it is for us to get to the quarterfinal. I am very happy for these young players because they believed in me."
2. USA. The USA could not be more please with the how the Gold Cup has played. It USA opens the knockout stage with what should be an easy game against Cuba, while on the other side of the bracket, the tournament's other two seeds, Mexico and Costa Rica, meet in the quarterfinals.
Sounds a little like the Women's World Cup with the USA opening the knockout stage against Colombia and Germany-France on the other side of the bracket in the quarterfinals? The Cuba game should give Jurgen Klinsmann a chance to sort out some issues in his team and await the return of John Brooks for the quarterfinals.
3. Jamaica. It's been a long summer for the Reggae Boyz. For the first time, they played in the Copa America, where they lost all three games, all by 1-0. But they then had two and half weeks off and regrouped for the Gold Cup, where they tied Costa Rica (2-0), then beat Canada (1-0) and El Salvador (1-0).
"I'm very, very happy about my team," Jamaica head coach Winfried Schaefer said. "I trust my players." Indeed, he made just one lineup change in three games, starting Darren Mattocks up front after going with Simon Dawkins in the first two games. Mattocks, who is suspended against Haiti in Saturday's quarterfinals, is one of five MLS players Schafer has started along with Kemar Lawrence (New York Red Bulls), Je-Vaughn Watson (FC Dallas) and Jermaine Taylor and Giles Barnes (both Houston Dynamo).
4. Mexico. If head coach Miguel Herrera wants to keep his job, El Tri isn't helping out. A 6-0 win over Cuba ended a seven-game winless streak but since then it's tied Guatemala (0-0) and T&T (4-4). The latter result is the shocker. Mexico was cruising 2-0 after 55 minutes in Charlotte when the Soca Warriors scored three goals in 13 minutes to take the lead. El Tri seemed to have won the game on a goal by Andres Guardado in the 88th minute and an own goal in the 90th minute, but Marshall's equalizer ruined the festivities.
To add to Mexico's misery, Giovani dos Santos, who signed with the LA Galaxy earlier in the day, left at halftime with a leg injury. The status for Sunday's match against Costa Rica is uncertain.
5. Haiti. Another surprise from the Caribbean, Haiti tied Panama, 1-1, in its opening game on a goal by Sony Norde, then gave the USA everything it had in a 1-0 loss on Clint Dempsey's goal in the 47th minute. It came as no surprise then that it beat Honduras, 1-0, on Duckens Nazon's goal to claim second place in Group A behind the USA.
Other teams have been getting big games out of their MLS players. The Grenadiers have relied on players farther down the ladder. Pascal Millien (Jacksonville Armada) and James Marcelin (Fort Lauderdale Strikers) from the NASL and Mechack Jerome (Charlotte Independence) from the USL started in the win over Honduras.
6. Costa Rica. It has been a particularly great tournament so far for the Ticos, quarterfinalists a year ago at the World Cup. They blew a 2-1 lead against Jamaica and had to settle for a 1-1. They conceded a goal in stoppage time to former U.S. U-17 Dustin Correa, allowing El Salvador to draw, 1-1. A third draw -- this time scoreless against Canada in Toronto -- was good enough for second place in Group B.
Coach Paulo Wanchope has introduced a bunch of new domestic-based talent: Francisco Calvo, David Ramirez, David Guzman and Deyver Vega, all from Saprissa, and Alajuelense's Johan Venegas, who is reportedly being pursued by the Montreal Impact.
7. Panama. In all three Group A games, the Canaleros took the lead only to have to settle for 1-1 ties, first against Haiti, then Honduras and the USA. For an hour of so on Monday night, Panama looked very good against the USA, but it then faded in the end.
Coach Hernan Dario Gomez has started Blas Perez, 34, and Luis Tejada, 33, up front in all three games. They'll have the maximum five days to prepare for T&T on Sunday.
8. Cuba. Who'd have given the Cubans a chance of advancing after opening with a 6-0 loss to Mexico in a match that saw El Tri finish with a 44-3 edge in shots? By the time Cuba played Guatemala on Wednesday, it had completed a hat trick. Before each game, it had at least one player defect: first Keiler Garcia before the Mexico game in Chicago, backup goalkeeper Arael Arguellez before the team traveled to Phoenix, where it lost to T&T, 2-0, and Dario Suarez and Aricheel Hernandez disappeared before Wednesday's game in Charlotte.
Absences have been nothing new for Cuba at the Gold Cup. Head coach Raul Gonzalez and six players, all U-23s, were stuck in Havana because of visa problems, and they missed the Mexico game. Hernandez quickly defected, but four started in the 1-0 win over Guatemala, including Maikel Reyes, who scored the winner to return Cuba to the quarterfinals for the second straight tournament.
Post by: behind-de-bridge on July 16, 2015, 06:15:03 AM
Post by: JRtheWriter on July 16, 2015, 08:08:19 AM
What website you get tickets from??? I wanna buy my ticket one time!
http://www.seatsmart.com/concacaf-gold-cup-_-quarterfinals-tickets/801488/
Is what I used. You can also use http://www.tiqiq.com/
Post by: JRtheWriter on July 16, 2015, 08:08:45 AM
If yuh heading Brooklyn after the game. Cool Out Sundays is free and rell vibes for the after fete
Where in BK is this at? I may have to swing by that.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 16, 2015, 08:40:11 AM
If yuh heading Brooklyn after the game. Cool Out Sundays is free and rell vibes for the after fete
Where in BK is this at? I may have to swing by that.
8906 Ditmas Ave bet E89th & Remsen.
Post by: JRtheWriter on July 16, 2015, 08:45:38 AM
If yuh heading Brooklyn after the game. Cool Out Sundays is free and rell vibes for the after fete
Where in BK is this at? I may have to swing by that.
8906 Ditmas Ave bet E89th & Remsen.
Ha! I live right off Ditmas Ave and E5th. I'll def be there!
Post by: darrel3000 on July 16, 2015, 09:18:39 AM
Buy, b/c they are going quick, I know folks are in sects 121 and 126, sure there is more, but I would not hesitate
aye Jr why the ffuuckk you highjack my thread and make it your own? yuh don't have your own imagination? or timing? bbbitch watch yuhself eh! ah already spoke to d reff, a red card is in order fuh yuh ass. sc**t man. a better not see yuh at the match on sunday or else...
Post by: JRtheWriter on July 16, 2015, 09:21:09 AM
Buy, b/c they are going quick, I know folks are in sects 121 and 126, sure there is more, but I would not hesitate
aye Jr why the ffuuckk you highjack my thread and make it your own? yuh don't have your own imagination? or timing? bbbitch watch yuhself eh! ah already spoke to d reff, a red card is in order fuh yuh ass. sc**t man. a better not see yuh at the match on sunday or else...
Haha, my bad homie! I think we posted around the same time and one of the admins just combined them. I got you some homemade rum punch though Sunday if I see you to make it up to ya!
:beermug:
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 16, 2015, 09:33:45 AM
Post by: darrel3000 on July 16, 2015, 09:40:23 AM
i EXPECT A hard fought encounter this group match, T&T will come out blazing and try to get that early goal with open attacking play. Mexico feels this is a must win situation, they are in 2nd plac ein the group behind T&T and want to make a statment, they also will play open attacking football I expecta high scoring game with the victory to T&T 3-2!
THERE I SAID HERE FIRST PEOPLE! ;D :beermug:
AS I predicted it was high scoring game vs Mexico! most of the commentators remarked atht it was the BEST Gold Cup game ever, I agree, at least it was the best I've ever seen. most important, T&T top group C, yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaY ;D :beermug: I expect to see T&T in the Semi-Finals, where I expect they would face Mexico again, this time for the #win. we have the talent, the coaching and the confidence to make it through to the Semi-Finals and conquer whoever we face there. I SAID HERE FIRST!
in this game vs Panama I expect a 4-1 result as T&T go on to the semi-finals and revive our National Pride and National Following bringing out all the Fair weather fans back to T&T football. I was at the national stadium in 1999 when the USA scored the "Goal that was heard around the world" to Qualify ahead of T&T for the World cup in that final CONCACAF Qulifier. the whole nation was in red that day. I can't wait to see that type of football support again.
Post by: supporter on July 16, 2015, 10:13:20 AM
Post by: supporter on July 16, 2015, 03:07:54 PM
Post by: Peong on July 16, 2015, 03:08:32 PM
http://futbol.univision.com/article/2403018/2015-07-16/copa-oro/cuba/ariel-martinez-tambien-abandona-la
Post by: fari on July 16, 2015, 03:20:30 PM
Now Ariel Martinez abandon Cuba.
http://futbol.univision.com/article/2403018/2015-07-16/copa-oro/cuba/ariel-martinez-tambien-abandona-la
Sad, sad, sad
Post by: Peong on July 16, 2015, 03:26:34 PM
I eh know what to do with all this positive criticism we getting.
Clint Dempsey, Kenwyne Jones highlight Gold Cup group stage Best XI
By Kyle McCarthy (Fox Sports).
Trinidad and Tobago captain Kenwyne Jones basked in the achievement of his side in the aftermath of the 4-4 draw with Mexico on Wednesday.
The chaotic and utterly entertaining draw sent T&T through to the last eight as Group C winners. It marked a considerable achievement for T&T and underscored the growth in this young squad over the past couple of years.
Jones praised his teammates and tried to place the achievement in context. He also noted the fantastic nature of the second half within the framework of a tournament that often lacked intrigue for much of the group stage.
“I think that’s something that you dream for,” Jones said. “I don’t think there was a game like that in the Gold Cup so far. So I’m pretty sure it’s going to attract quite a few more people to watch it [back home]. The support has been good so far.”
Jones’ man-of-the-match display forced him onto our list of the top performers during the group stage. It is a list that reflects the egalitarian nature of a competition where the top teams aren’t firing just yet (the four World Cup qualifiers last year contributed just three players) and resurgence of Caribbean sides (six members of this side hail from the four Caribbean sides through to the last eight).
Goalkeeper: Kenny Stamatopoulos (Canada)
Stamatopoulos spent much of the group stage under considerable duress. He navigated through it deftly and produced several fine saves to keep the Canadians within touching distance of a berth in the last eight. His performances vindicated Benito Floro's decision to select him in goal with regular number one Milan Borjan tending to Champions League duties with Ludogorets.
Defender: Sheldon Bateau (Trinidad and Tobago)
The Belgium-based defender played a critical role in both penalty areas for T&T during group play. Bateau scored twice to help T&T claim a quarterfinal berth after two matches and set out the defensive stall as well. The promising center back will hope to continue his development as T&T attempt to mount a deep run into the tournament.
Defender: Elias Vasquez (Guatemala)
Guatemala submitted the defensive performance of the group stage in the 0-0 draw against Mexico. Vasquez found himself at the heart of those efforts in the center of the Guatemalan defense. His defiance played a considerable role in that draw and the subsequent place in the last eight.
Defender: Kemar Lawrence (Jamaica)
Lawrence performed well during the recent spell in the Copa América and sustained that form in the early stages of this tournament. His industry ensures competent work at the back and reliable width on the overlap.
Midfielder: Michael Bradley (United States)
Bradley -- the only U.S. player to feature for every minute so far this year -- once again served as the driving force in central midfield. His industry, passing range and his willingness to make the late run into the penalty area makes him an important component going forward. The equalizer against Panama -- including some good work in the buildup and a timely finish to round off the move -- summed up his contributions nicely.
Midfielder: Rodolph Austin (Jamaica)
The midfield line is an area of particular strength for the Group B winners. Austin serves as the fulcrum within it, the linchpin expected to establish the tone and spread it throughout the team. His displays during the group stage -- including the critical late winner against Canada -- reinforced the reasons why his presence is so critical for the Jamaicans.
Midfielder: Andrés Guardado (Mexico)
There were few positives for Mexico during the disjointed run through Group C, but Guardado featured among them. The veteran midfielder accepts his given role and functions deftly within it. His steady presence adds heft to the Mexican midfield whether he operates on the left or slots into the midfield three, while his well-taken goal against Trindad and Tobago reinforces his enduring quality in the final third.
Midfielder: Joevin Jones (Trinidad & Tobago)
The enterprising Chicago Fire left back offers plenty of intent and width when deployed on the wing. Jones' attacking qualities provide T&T with a ready avenue to break quickly on the left. His goal against Guatemala reinforced his ability to make an impact in front of goal (as Fire fans well know by this point), while his inch-perfect corner for the equalizer against Mexico supplied a justified punctuation mark for his contributions.
Forward: Clint Dempsey (United States)
Klinsmann underscored the need for Dempsey to push aside the recent controversy surrounding his conduct in a Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup match and score regularly in this tournament. Dempsey responded by propelling the Americans to the top of Group A with three goals in three matches. He isn't the captain for this tournament, but he continues to shoulder a heavy load. The demands will only increase with Jozy Altidore released from the squad after the group stage.
Forward: Kenwyne Jones (Trinidad and Tobago)
T&T won its Gold Cup group for the first time with inspirational captain Jones playing an influential part in the success. Jones led the line diligently by occupying defenders willingly and then punishing them when they ceded space. His performance in the Group C-clinching 4-4 draw against Mexico included a goal and two assists (plus an unfortunate own goal) stands out as perhaps the best individual display in the group stage.
Forward: Duckens Nazon (Haiti)
End product often keeps the aspiring underdog from completing the task. Nazon never found his range against the U.S., but his contributions against Panama and Honduras injected the necessary sharpness in a side with all sorts of endeavor. His willingness to challenge defenders one-versus-one and use his pace relentlessly played a significant part in Haiti's group stage success.
Post by: Spursy on July 16, 2015, 03:28:27 PM
Post by: truehaitian on July 16, 2015, 03:58:09 PM
Warriors to face Haitians in Copa 2016
T&T Express Reports.
Trinidad and Tobago senior national football team will face Caribbean rivals Haiti for a place in the 2016 Copa Centro Americano.
The special 100th edition of the Copa, to be held in the United States next year, will see the senior national football teams of 10 South Americans nations, facing the best six in the CONCACAF region.
South America will be represented by Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Chile, Bolivia, Colombia, Peru, Uruguay, Venezuela and Ecuador.
Already qualified from CONCACAF are Mexico (Automatic qualifier), the United States (Automatic qualifier/host), Costa Rica (2014 Central America champions) and Jamaica, as 2014 Caribbean champions.
The final two CONCACAF qualifiers will be decided by two playoffs among four quarter-finalist of the 2015 CONCACAAF Gold Cup.
Trinidad and Tobago, the second-highest FIFA ranked CONCACAF team not yet qualified, will face third-highest ranked non qualifier Haiti, while top-ranked non-qualifier Panama face whichever of Guatemala/Cuba or El Salvador also reached the Gold Cup quarters. The two series winners will join the other four CONCACAF teams in the competition.''
What if T&T or Haiti win the Gold cup.. will the they still have to play each other for spot into the COPA America or will they go to the next highest rank team
Post by: Controversial on July 16, 2015, 04:03:02 PM
Warriors to face Haitians in Copa 2016
T&T Express Reports.
Trinidad and Tobago senior national football team will face Caribbean rivals Haiti for a place in the 2016 Copa Centro Americano.
The special 100th edition of the Copa, to be held in the United States next year, will see the senior national football teams of 10 South Americans nations, facing the best six in the CONCACAF region.
South America will be represented by Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Chile, Bolivia, Colombia, Peru, Uruguay, Venezuela and Ecuador.
Already qualified from CONCACAF are Mexico (Automatic qualifier), the United States (Automatic qualifier/host), Costa Rica (2014 Central America champions) and Jamaica, as 2014 Caribbean champions.
The final two CONCACAF qualifiers will be decided by two playoffs among four quarter-finalist of the 2015 CONCACAAF Gold Cup.
Trinidad and Tobago, the second-highest FIFA ranked CONCACAF team not yet qualified, will face third-highest ranked non qualifier Haiti, while top-ranked non-qualifier Panama face whichever of Guatemala/Cuba or El Salvador also reached the Gold Cup quarters. The two series winners will join the other four CONCACAF teams in the competition.''
What if T&T or Haiti win the Gold cup.. will the they still have to play each other for spot into the COPA America or will they go to the next highest rank team
I find this qualification process very confusing .... They have not explained it properly ...
Post by: Deeks on July 16, 2015, 04:04:33 PM
Post by: Controversial on July 16, 2015, 04:10:22 PM
We blew our chance in Montego Bay last year. But I thought if we were to win the Gold Cup or runners up we in Copa America.
We will be there.. We need that prep for wcq
Post by: pull stones on July 16, 2015, 04:10:59 PM
We blew our chance in Montego Bay last year. But I thought if we were to win the Gold Cup or runners up we in Copa America.it's not easy to beat the jamaicans at home. many have tried including the great usa mexico and coata rica and failed miserably.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 16, 2015, 04:12:43 PM
Now Ariel Martinez abandon Cuba.
http://futbol.univision.com/article/2403018/2015-07-16/copa-oro/cuba/ariel-martinez-tambien-abandona-la
Just when you thought he wouldn't do it, he did. After all, he's been here several times and did not go for it. Some days ago he declared strenuously that he wouldn't. And, after being influential in qualifying for the quarters one would think he would stick around. BUT, here's the thing ... Cuba are unlikely to defeat the US, and once they lose they have to pack up. Logistically, it might have been easier for him to defect now.
Yesterday, I noticed that his play was really audacious and individualistic, especially after Reyes scored. Any bet he's been thinking about the shop window and the clock ticking on his career. Some of the past defectors have ended up at the Charleston Battery. He'll land on hi$ feet.
Also an interesting dynamic seeing some of the fans flying the Cuban flag during the game. I wouldn't bet against a contingent from South Florida working a sort of "underground railway" network, chipping away slowly at the idea.
These guys have torn allegiances. They have an allegiance to their country, but they also figure they have an allegiance to themselves. Article says he was crying on the bus on the way back to the hotel, then on arrival took off running until he disappeared from sight.
Here we are 56 years later and Cubans are still defecting, both Castros are alive, and the current president wasn't even born when the "revolution" began.
If a player as senior as Martinez could bolt, the whole squad could bounce.
Post by: Controversial on July 16, 2015, 04:16:48 PM
Now Ariel Martinez abandon Cuba.
http://futbol.univision.com/article/2403018/2015-07-16/copa-oro/cuba/ariel-martinez-tambien-abandona-la
Just when you thought he wouldn't do it, he did. After all, he's been here several times and did not go for it. Some days ago he declared strenuously that he wouldn't. And, after being influential in qualifying for the quarters one would think he would stick around. BUT, here's the thing ... Cuba are unlikely to defeat the US, and once they lose they have to pack up. Logistically, it might have been easier for him to defect now.
Yesterday, I noticed that his play was really audacious and individualistic, especially after Reyes scored. Any bet he's been thinking about the shop window and the clock ticking on his career. Some of the past defectors have ended up at the Charleston Battery. He'll land on hi$ feet.
Also an interesting dynamic seeing some of the fans flying the Cuban flag during the game. I wouldn't bet against a contingent from South Florida working a sort of "underground railway" network, chipping away slowly at the idea.
These guys have torn allegiances. They have an allegiance to their country, but they also figure they have an allegiance to themselves. Article says he was crying on the bus on the way back to the hotel, then on arrival took off running until he disappeared from sight.
Here we are 56 years later and Cubans are still defecting, both Castros are alive, and the current president wasn't even born when the "revolution" began.
If a player as senior as Martinez could bolt, the whole squad could bounce.
I always wondered what post Castro would be like...
Post by: Trini Madness on July 16, 2015, 08:32:43 PM
Post by: Deeks on July 16, 2015, 09:30:55 PM
We blew our chance in Montego Bay last year. But I thought if we were to win the Gold Cup or runners up we in Copa America.it's not easy to beat the jamaicans at home. many have tried including the great usa mexico and coata rica and failed miserably.
TT did before in the Shell cup. Sancho and Tim Kee confrontation screw up them boys head in Mobay.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 17, 2015, 06:04:18 AM
Good luck to the team and have a safe time everyone.
Unfortunately I am finishing a course and starting a residential camp on Sunday, so I will not be able to join. I am devastated. Had my eye on this quarterfinal location for some time :-[
Football-related?
Post by: samo on July 17, 2015, 06:07:16 AM
Post by: FF on July 17, 2015, 06:27:04 AM
Good luck to the team and have a safe time everyone.
Unfortunately I am finishing a course and starting a residential camp on Sunday, so I will not be able to join. I am devastated. Had my eye on this quarterfinal location for some time :-[
Football-related?
Yeah at Hicksville, NY for the NSCAA National and then going straight to a residential camp in Highstown, NJ. Just finished one in Stony Brook. This has been an exhausting week.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 17, 2015, 06:39:58 AM
Good luck to the team and have a safe time everyone.
Unfortunately I am finishing a course and starting a residential camp on Sunday, so I will not be able to join. I am devastated. Had my eye on this quarterfinal location for some time :-[
Football-related?
Yeah at Hicksville, NY for the NSCAA National and then going straight to a residential camp in Highstown, NJ. Just finished one in Stony Brook. This has been an exhausting week.
Knock dem dead, FF. Best of luck. There's time to rest after.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 17, 2015, 07:29:09 AM
Post by: Jumbie on July 17, 2015, 11:34:25 AM
I will be there
like rain fall boi!
is real old-school I see coming out dey hole! U, palas, injun.. etc
Post by: Controversial on July 17, 2015, 01:10:55 PM
I will be there
like rain fall boi!
is real old-school I see coming out dey hole! U, palas, injun.. etc
:D i was now thinking that...
Post by: injunchile on July 17, 2015, 01:20:19 PM
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 17, 2015, 01:53:27 PM
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 17, 2015, 02:14:31 PM
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2524904-gold-cup-2015-power-ranking-every-team-after-the-group-stage
Post by: samo on July 17, 2015, 02:19:12 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 17, 2015, 02:39:21 PM
Post by: frico on July 17, 2015, 03:05:00 PM
Post by: Brownsugar on July 17, 2015, 03:09:51 PM
Post by: JRtheWriter on July 17, 2015, 03:20:00 PM
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 17, 2015, 04:17:31 PM
imagine that power ranked #2! Going in we all hoped the team would do well but most weren't optimistic at all.
I know. The expectations are getting higher. I read one article which named TT as the team to beat. Many analysts predicted TT to squeeze into the knockout round.. Now some are predicting us to finish 3rd or even 2nd. I hope these predictions don't put too much pressure on the warriors/black beast.
Post by: SWF Reporter on July 17, 2015, 04:38:52 PM
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868)
“Soca Warriors” coach Stephen Hart has opted not to replace injured goalkeeper Jan-Michael Williams as the Trinidad and Tobago National Senior Team heads into the knockout phase of the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup in the United States.
The Warriors face Panama from 4.30 pm on Sunday July 19 and all teams have the option to change three players with alternatives from their 35-man shortlist. The United States, Jamaica, Haiti and Costa Rica took advantage of the opportunity.
But Hart explained that, with the Pro League in its off season and his stand-by players on vacation, it made little sense to alter his squad.
“It is hard to introduce anyone else,” Hart told Wired868. “It is not like we have a league home and people are playing. That is one of the reasons I wanted people training with me, even if they were not selected.
“I have two goalkeepers here I trust, so I will take a chance.”
Hart’s decision appears to rule out a call-up for North East Stars goalkeeper Cleon John, whose last competitive game was two months ago. At present, Point Fortin Civic custodian Marvin Phillip is first choice with Police FC’s Adrian Foncette as deputy.
Hart denied that his squad had any special motivation against Panama, although the Central American nation reneged on a pre-arranged international friendly against the Warriors last month to play two games against Ecuador.
It forced the Warriors into a hastily arranged friendly away to Curaçao, which they lost 1-0.
However, the Trinidad and Tobago claimed there were no hard feelings and suggested that Panama is one of the hardest opponents in the knock out stage, although “Los Canaleros” drew all three group stage matches against the United States, Haiti and Honduras respectively.
“The past is the past,” said Hart. “Panama looked the best out of the third placed teams we could have faced. Costa Rica is certainly struggling and not at their best moment…
“To end up (drawn against) last Gold Cup’s finalist is going to be a challenge.”
Even as football fans swoon over Trinidad and Tobago’s performances at the Gold Cup, the pragmatic Hart admitted his own feelings were mixed.
In emotional terms, the Warriors are in a fantastic place.
“Their response has been tremendous,” said Hart, who also took Trinidad and Tobago to the 2013 Gold Cup quarterfinals. “It is as if something inside them has been awakened and they now recognise their potential.”
But, after spending the last six weeks trying to implement a 4-3-3 formation, Hart said that, for periods against Guatemala and Cuba and for the entire Mexico match, he returned to the 4-2-3-1 system, which was tailor-made for the absent Kevin Molino.
“We were losing shape and balance too easily,” said Hart, “so we reverted back to what players felt more comfortable with.”
Hart admitted to being frustrated at a lack of international friendlies, which meant less time to prepare his players. And, despite being unbeaten at the Gold Cup, he is dissatisfied with their tactical play thus far.
“Tactically, we have a long way to go,” he told Wired868. “We need to possess the ball better to attack the weak side of opponents. We also need to press more effectively when the ball is in wide areas, denying easy crossing opportunities.”
As football fans cheered during Trinidad and Tobago’s 4-4 draw with Mexico, which was described as the greatest Gold Cup game ever, Hart was going berserk on the touchline.
Read more: http://wired868.com/2015/07/17/no-change-for-warrior-squad-hart-reveals-highs-and-lows-of-gcup-campaign/
Post by: 2cents on July 17, 2015, 05:25:01 PM
Post by: lefty on July 17, 2015, 06:18:15 PM
and I would prefer a slightly different test for the boys
Post by: Cocorite on July 17, 2015, 08:09:00 PM
Doh wake meh up.
Post by: FF on July 17, 2015, 09:50:45 PM
Post by: pull stones on July 18, 2015, 04:34:05 AM
Post by: Socaman on July 18, 2015, 08:00:16 AM
Have some forumites gonna be in 309...I'll be I believe in 204 with a bredrin. But what I wanted to share is that in section E10 I believe in the parking lot I was informed a crew by the name TrinJersey gonna start d vibes from 12 with iron and pan etc...tailgate vibes. So walk with some food/drinks etc and hold a vibes. Link up would be good to meet all the fantasy league victims
Thanks for the heads regarding the TrinJersey crew in the parking lot. I'm bringing my sons and this would be great for them to experience. Few people will also be in section 319
Post by: madness on July 18, 2015, 11:19:07 AM
Post by: Spursy on July 18, 2015, 03:21:27 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 18, 2015, 03:48:30 PM
anyone has link for cuba usa game?
look highlights here:
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/4724386/full-mount-beatdown-o.gif)
Post by: lefty on July 18, 2015, 04:21:52 PM
anyone has link for cuba usa game?
look highlights here:
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/4724386/full-mount-beatdown-o.gif)
lol u's ah real backside u know dread
Post by: Bally on July 18, 2015, 06:07:15 PM
Post by: E-man on July 18, 2015, 06:46:52 PM
Now Ariel Martinez abandon Cuba.
http://futbol.univision.com/article/2403018/2015-07-16/copa-oro/cuba/ariel-martinez-tambien-abandona-la
Just when you thought he wouldn't do it, he did. After all, he's been here several times and did not go for it. Some days ago he declared strenuously that he wouldn't. And, after being influential in qualifying for the quarters one would think he would stick around. BUT, here's the thing ... Cuba are unlikely to defeat the US, and once they lose they have to pack up. Logistically, it might have been easier for him to defect now.
Yesterday, I noticed that his play was really audacious and individualistic, especially after Reyes scored. Any bet he's been thinking about the shop window and the clock ticking on his career. Some of the past defectors have ended up at the Charleston Battery. He'll land on hi$ feet.
Also an interesting dynamic seeing some of the fans flying the Cuban flag during the game. I wouldn't bet against a contingent from South Florida working a sort of "underground railway" network, chipping away slowly at the idea.
These guys have torn allegiances. They have an allegiance to their country, but they also figure they have an allegiance to themselves. Article says he was crying on the bus on the way back to the hotel, then on arrival took off running until he disappeared from sight.
Here we are 56 years later and Cubans are still defecting, both Castros are alive, and the current president wasn't even born when the "revolution" began.
If a player as senior as Martinez could bolt, the whole squad could bounce.
I always wondered what post Castro would be like...
btw what is the policy now that 'normal' relations are being established if they make it on shore? will they get to ask for asylum still or will they get sent back like Haitians for example.
Post by: E-man on July 18, 2015, 06:47:42 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 18, 2015, 06:49:42 PM
btw what is the policy now that 'normal' relations are being established if they make it on shore? will they get to ask for asylum still or will they get sent back like Haitians for example.
Them does vote republican... ::)
Post by: Bitter on July 18, 2015, 06:56:03 PM
Every team is looking to be organized, every team is dropping back 2 lines of defenders and trying to be compact. These fellas on tv describe play as if its a formula. Bring the ball wide, cross to the far post, take the shot across the keeper. It's all about the percentages.
Are the numbers ruining the beautiful game? Would a Valderrama or Riquelme have a place in the modern game?
Post by: asylumseeker on July 18, 2015, 07:07:41 PM
btw what is the policy now that 'normal' relations are being established if they make it on shore? will they get to ask for asylum still or will they get sent back like Haitians for example.
Get in while the going is good. The Cuban Adjustment Act is still in effect despite recent adjustments in US policy.
Post by: kounty on July 18, 2015, 07:43:47 PM
Post by: kounty on July 18, 2015, 07:57:26 PM
Post by: lefty on July 18, 2015, 07:58:06 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 18, 2015, 07:58:52 PM
Post by: AB.Trini on July 18, 2015, 07:59:30 PM
But it might be the only time I will cheer fuh dem to buss the other Dinks usa
Post by: Sando prince on July 18, 2015, 08:04:20 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 18, 2015, 08:18:11 PM
Post by: reggae-fan on July 18, 2015, 08:28:03 PM
That game was terrible. It was like watching a yellow 2012 Champions league Chelsea.
Do what is necessary to win...Haiti was chasing the game after the 7 minutes, The onus was on them to score...JA's sole task was to prevent them scoring. Mission accomplished. JA's third string goalie stepped up to the plate and kept two successive clean sheets, they lost two key defenders this week trough injuries and disciplinary problems, they lost a key midfielder and striker also this week due to suspensions. All part of the game, everyone got a chance to contribute. Plaers like Austin, McCleary, et played 3 toughs games in the COPA, followed by what will now be 6 games in the Gold cup. 9 international games in the space of 35 days.
Strong defense is needed to make a deep run into any tournament. We will continue to bank on this aspect of our game to bring us as far as it can, while scoring when the opportunity presents itself. 2 gaols conceded in the tournament so far, one of the best defensive units in the the tournament.
Still two more games to go, and a guarantee of at least a 4th place finish. Ill be in the Georgia Dome on Wednesday to cheer on the boyz...its been a long summer for most of the players..and fans. Good luck vs USA, but the tactics have to be spot on to come away with anything...theres plenty at stake for both teams.
Hard luck Haiti, Cuba, good luck T&T vs Panama.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 18, 2015, 08:46:23 PM
i have to concur with somebody on here who say Haiti 1 Kenwyn Jones away from being a good side. I hope they scour the top leagues of the world lookin for heritage and find him.
If yuh mean dis ... sure KJ, Balo ... either one will do. ;D Fuh real, Haiti could have changed half the face of this tournament.
10 Haitians + a ruthless well-applied Balotelli and the US gone to Belgroves long time.
Post by: Sando prince on July 18, 2015, 08:57:30 PM
reggae-fan I really hope JA don't intend to play the US like they played Haiti today. Because America will beat JA like a runaway slave if JA try that approach in Atlanta
Post by: weary1969 on July 18, 2015, 09:04:19 PM
Change of plans!! I've been moved to another camp location which starts on Monday, so as long as my course finishes on time, I go be in the ramajay!! :wavetowel:
Like yuh make some novena :rotfl:
Post by: weary1969 on July 18, 2015, 09:04:47 PM
aaaaaaahhhhh yeeeesss.....feels like old times again....wish I was there....
CO-SIGNNNNNN
Post by: asylumseeker on July 18, 2015, 09:09:57 PM
Post by: reggae-fan on July 18, 2015, 09:25:51 PM
reggae-fan I really hope JA don't intend to play the US like they played Haiti today. Because America will beat JA like a runaway slave if JA try that approach in Atlanta
The coach knows best sir. I trust in him to employ the right tactics for the necessary outcome. He has been spot n so far. I believe the USA will be up for a tough game...Jamaica needs not divert from the way they have played so far, strong in defence and disciplined in midfield will keep the game close.
Cuba has been poor all tournament, save for that one game vs Guatemala, who has been equally as poor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XImSohZoifY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XImSohZoifY)
Post by: Sando prince on July 18, 2015, 09:30:00 PM
reggae-fan I really hope JA don't intend to play the US like they played Haiti today. Because America will beat JA like a runaway slave if JA try that approach in Atlanta
The coach knows best sir. I trust in him to employ the right tactics for the necessary outcome. He has been spot n so far. I believe the USA will be up for a tough game...Jamaica needs not divert from the way they have played so far, strong in defence and disciplined in midfield will keep the game close.
Cuba has been poor all tournament, save for that one game vs Guatemala, who has been equally as poor.
OK so let we see if JA so called disciplined defense will give the US so many open opportunities in front their goal like they did against Haiti and expect the same result as today. Go brave!
Post by: reggae-fan on July 18, 2015, 09:34:11 PM
reggae-fan I really hope JA don't intend to play the US like they played Haiti today. Because America will beat JA like a runaway slave if JA try that approach in Atlanta
The coach knows best sir. I trust in him to employ the right tactics for the necessary outcome. He has been spot n so far. I believe the USA will be up for a tough game...Jamaica needs not divert from the way they have played so far, strong in defence and disciplined in midfield will keep the game close.
Cuba has been poor all tournament, save for that one game vs Guatemala, who has been equally as poor.
OK so let we see if JA so called disciplined defense will give the US so many open opportunities in front their goal like they did against Haiti and expect the same result as today. Go brave!
the coaching staff will review the tapes of the USA and do whatever is necessary. We played an attacking game vs Costa rica and scored two goals...a more disciplined approach is needed vs the USA, the opponents must be respected. The coach knows our strengths, and our weaknesses, so we play to our strengths. Of course, the USA starts favorites...they are stillfavorites to play in the final with Mexico. Respect the opponents.
Post by: hg495 on July 18, 2015, 09:40:32 PM
we coming from maryland to vibes it up
Post by: Controversial on July 18, 2015, 09:50:28 PM
reggae-fan I really hope JA don't intend to play the US like they played Haiti today. Because America will beat JA like a runaway slave if JA try that approach in Atlanta
The coach knows best sir. I trust in him to employ the right tactics for the necessary outcome. He has been spot n so far. I believe the USA will be up for a tough game...Jamaica needs not divert from the way they have played so far, strong in defence and disciplined in midfield will keep the game close.
Cuba has been poor all tournament, save for that one game vs Guatemala, who has been equally as poor.
OK so let we see if JA so called disciplined defense will give the US so many open opportunities in front their goal like they did against Haiti and expect the same result as today. Go brave!
the coaching staff will review the tapes of the USA and do whatever is necessary. We played an attacking game vs Costa rica and scored two goals...a more disciplined approach is needed vs the USA, the opponents must be respected. The coach knows our strengths, and our weaknesses, so we play to our strengths. Of course, the USA starts favorites...they are stillfavorites to play in the final with Mexico. Respect the opponents.
Wishing the boyz the best but gotta play better than today..
Post by: pull stones on July 19, 2015, 03:06:53 AM
Post by: Flex on July 19, 2015, 03:20:23 AM
1. After they scored they try to just play procession football and not burn out themselves. Remember, they have a German coach and they are known for strong defensively tactics, hence the reason JA conceding the least goals (+2) in the tournament group stage alongside USA. But its sad in a way, because Jamaica flair they had has gone. The days of attractive football with the likes of Theodore Withmore, Gregory Messam, Andy Williams and Walter Boyd has gone.
2. They almost paid the price though, because as terribly as Haiti were all tournament in front of goal, had they been on target, Jamaica plan could have backed fire.
Kemar Lawrence is a solid left back.
Darren Mattocks was missed.
Lance Laing was effective when he came on.
McAnuff was not his usual self.
Austin was decent in the midfield.
Of all the Jamaican foreign born players (Morgan, Hector, Grant, Dawkins),,,, McAnuff, McCleary, Barnes and Adrian Mariappa looks the best.
I can see, Cuba getting ban from the US one day, that defecting of players is not good.
Post by: trini_stallion on July 19, 2015, 03:38:53 AM
Post by: trini_stallion on July 19, 2015, 03:39:21 AM
Post by: reggae-fan on July 19, 2015, 04:37:38 AM
Jamaica, one can tell they have more in their tank. However.
1. After they scored they try to just play procession football and not burn out themselves. Remember, they have a German coach and they are known for strong defensively tactics, hence the reason JA conceding the least goals (+2) in the tournament group stage alongside USA. But its sad in a way, because Jamaica flair they had has gone. The days of attractive football with the likes of Theodore Withmore, Gregory Messam, Andy Williams and Walter Boyd has gone.
2. They almost paid the price though, because as terribly as Haiti were all tournament in front of goal, had they been on target, Jamaica plan could have backed fire.
Kemar Lawrence is a solid left back.
Darren Mattocks was missed.
Lance Laing was effective when he came on.
McAnuff was not his usual self.
Austin was decent in the midfield.
Of all the Jamaican foreign born players (Morgan, Hector, Grant, Dawkins),,,, McAnuff, McCleary, Barnes and Adrian Mariappa looks the best.
I can see, Cuba getting ban from the US one day, that defecting of players is not good.
Some good observations. Haiti came into this game with momentum behind them, having secured their spot on the last day of group play. The media was behind them, suddenly they were everyone favorites to beat Jamaica.
Schaeffer is a tactician. Analyses Jamaica's games in the group stages, wide open game vs Costa Rica, scored 2 conceded 2. Next game vs Canada tactics changed, more of a possession game, bulk of possession, left it late to notch the winner, secured qualification, then in the final game, again they switched off, allowing the Salvadorans tonattack while looking to break on the counter. Another victory.
Whereas Mexico sent a B team to the Copa, Jamaica sent the bulk of the squad that's at the currently goal cup. Schaeffer himself acknowledged that he would have to employ he necessary tactics to prevent player burnout. Its not easy playing two international football tournaments over a 30 day timespan.
Normally energetic players such as Austin was a shadow of himself last night. Then they have to hop onto another flight to play in the stifling heat of Atlanta again on Wednesday, then back to the North east after that for the final/third place game.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 19, 2015, 06:37:11 AM
cuba should be banned by the cfu from taking part in this gold cup. their lacks attitude have delivered the golden boot in the hands of clint dempsey by giving this slog a trick and a six goal tally. i could honestly say that guatemala would not have lied down and took such a trashing. shame on this team. i hope to never see them again until they are serious about representing the region instead of using the competition to further their personal ambitions by defecting.
Ah feel yuh. It's a contribution that echoes recent comments by Dynamite Warrior.
Basically US law and policy is kicking up a backlash of consequences regarding the game on the field.
One could ask: wth did they need visas anyway when they could just otherwise reach and stay in the US even if not arriving at an official port of entry. (Just highlighting the gap in reality and policy). If their admission could have been facilitated earlier, we hope they wouldn't have taken 6 in their opening match.
Dey get blows for late arrivals and dey get blows for early departures (defectors). Untenable issue.
Post by: Fensic on July 19, 2015, 07:58:57 AM
Warriors all de way! :duel: :busshead: :challenge: :shameonyou:
Post by: maxg on July 19, 2015, 09:27:42 AM
I go be dey too - Section 115C Row 3. Cyar give de seat number. Potential assassins.i from Belmont ah farse...why would somebody want to assassinate you ? an why would i want to meet you if i will potentially get assassinated too, and i don't know why ? :devil:
Warriors all de way! :duel: :busshead: :challenge: :shameonyou:
Post by: trini_stallion on July 19, 2015, 10:36:49 AM
I go be dey too - Section 115C Row 3. Cyar give de seat number. Potential assassins.i from Belmont ah farse...why would somebody want to assassinate you ? an why would i want to meet you if i will potentially get assassinated too, and i don't know why ? :devil:
Warriors all de way! :duel: :busshead: :challenge: :shameonyou:
Well look trouble...eh I taking security wuk yuh know...guntas security at your service! Payment in rum!
Post by: Peong on July 19, 2015, 11:15:12 AM
Post by: 2cents on July 19, 2015, 11:16:20 AM
Post by: reggae-fan on July 19, 2015, 11:28:25 AM
Post by: davyjenny1 on July 19, 2015, 11:37:03 AM
Now get a call d rhythm by E11 and 12 in the parking lot. Mexicans done take E10.well ! leh we hear or see something nah!
Post by: samo on July 19, 2015, 11:39:23 AM
Post by: Controversial on July 19, 2015, 12:08:58 PM
Just got here .. Line at E11
What is the percentage of trinis..
Post by: Controversial on July 19, 2015, 12:19:43 PM
Anyone here willing to entertain the thought of an all Caribbean showdown for the third place game? The football gods would really need to smile down hard for us to have even one team in the championship game...I anticipate they will be using referees from UNCAF and Canada for the semis... expect them to be pro US/Mex/CRC/PAN and anti JAM/T&T
Isn't that always the case for Caribbean teams? ;)
Post by: g on July 19, 2015, 02:31:44 PM
Post by: kounty on July 19, 2015, 08:12:10 PM
Post by: AB.Trini on July 19, 2015, 08:24:45 PM
Post by: kounty on July 19, 2015, 08:29:59 PM
Nah nah - what a way for CR to lose the game! Yuh know is time to look at other countries hosting this CUp? Think of all the venues they using in the states? Why can't tne Caribbean host it and have different groups in different countries and then the quarters semis and finals in you guess ityou see how full that stadium was? And tickets sold in USD. Thaz all you need to know.
Post by: royal on July 19, 2015, 08:31:18 PM
Post by: Peong on July 19, 2015, 08:34:44 PM
Just in time for the road to the WC.
Post by: FF on July 19, 2015, 09:14:39 PM
The ref gift them a penalty yes. Heartbreak for Costa Rica. I feel my hate for Mexico building once again.
Just in time for the road to the WC.
Couldn't depend on the penalty lottery to ensure the US-Mexico final...
Post by: Controversial on July 19, 2015, 09:22:37 PM
Anyways TT was practising penalties before the match and Cyrus take a brilliant one to end the video from Fuentes so it was funny to see him using an injury as to why he kick overbars
With Trinidad they can play brilliant one minute and the next they play a game you would not expect, like tonight..
The most beautiful game, filled with corruption...
Post by: Controversial on July 19, 2015, 09:27:46 PM
Concacaf officials always want a USA/Mexico finals.
The gold cup wasn't created for a team like Trinidad to win... That's the facts
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 20, 2015, 08:50:49 AM
The ref gift them a penalty yes. Heartbreak for Costa Rica. I feel my hate for Mexico building once again.
Just in time for the road to the WC.
Couldn't depend on the penalty lottery to ensure the US-Mexico final...
Da ref is ah nastiness jedd!!!!
Yo is leave you and soldya left or allyuh was watchin from somewhere else? Yuh kno is only after allyuh leave I realize is you and yuh soldya padna! An I eh even get to tell him "thanks for your services" :rotfl:
Post by: pull stones on July 20, 2015, 09:38:06 AM
could you blame them? there was barely 2000 trinis in the stadium yesterday which is a hop skip and a jump from new york city where over a millions trinidadians reside. could you imagine a trinidad tobago vs jamaica final in pensylvania or georgia, who would attend? i saw more east indians from trinidad at that game than any other demographic from trinbago, who said indians don't like football? football is about money and there must be either a mexican or an american team in the final to make it feasible and i certainly don't blame them. by the way mexico was the better team hands down and the referee probably did them a favor by not prolonging the inevitable.Concacaf officials always want a USA/Mexico finals.
The gold cup wasn't created for a team like Trinidad to win... That's the facts
Post by: Brownsugar on July 20, 2015, 09:40:34 AM
Post by: pull stones on July 20, 2015, 09:41:11 AM
Post by: Controversial on July 20, 2015, 09:44:06 AM
could you blame them? there was barely 2000 trinis in the stadium yesterday which is a hop skip and a jump from new york city where over a millions trinidadians reside. could you imagine a trinidad tobago vs jamaica final in pensylvania or georgia, who would attend? i saw more east indians from trinidad at that game than any other demographic from trinbago, who said indians don't like football? football is about money and there must be either a mexican or an american team in the final to make it feasible and i certainly don't blame them. by the way mexico was the better team hands down and the referee probably did them a favor by not prolonging the inevitable.Concacaf officials always want a USA/Mexico finals.
The gold cup wasn't created for a team like Trinidad to win... That's the facts
East Indians from Trinidad? Why not just say trinis were there.. Most trinis i know were watching the match on tv but I think we could have pulled a bigger fan base in Toronto than New York.. Just need time to promote it..
Post by: pull stones on July 20, 2015, 10:05:38 AM
ok mate so that you know there's nothing to what i said, my nan is trinidadian indian which make my mom dougla, and i was born and raised in trinidad but spend most my life in england. can we go back to football now?could you blame them? there was barely 2000 trinis in the stadium yesterday which is a hop skip and a jump from new york city where over a millions trinidadians reside. could you imagine a trinidad tobago vs jamaica final in pensylvania or georgia, who would attend? i saw more east indians from trinidad at that game than any other demographic from trinbago, who said indians don't like football? football is about money and there must be either a mexican or an american team in the final to make it feasible and i certainly don't blame them. by the way mexico was the better team hands down and the referee probably did them a favor by not prolonging the inevitable.Concacaf officials always want a USA/Mexico finals.
The gold cup wasn't created for a team like Trinidad to win... That's the facts
East Indians from Trinidad? Why not just say trinis were there.. Most trinis i know were watching the match on tv but I think we could have pulled a bigger fan base in Toronto than New York.. Just need time to promote it..
Post by: Controversial on July 20, 2015, 10:08:41 AM
ok mate so that you know there's nothing to what i said, my nan is trinidadian indian which make my mom dougla, and i was born and raised in trinidad but spend most my life in england. can we go back to football now?could you blame them? there was barely 2000 trinis in the stadium yesterday which is a hop skip and a jump from new york city where over a millions trinidadians reside. could you imagine a trinidad tobago vs jamaica final in pensylvania or georgia, who would attend? i saw more east indians from trinidad at that game than any other demographic from trinbago, who said indians don't like football? football is about money and there must be either a mexican or an american team in the final to make it feasible and i certainly don't blame them. by the way mexico was the better team hands down and the referee probably did them a favor by not prolonging the inevitable.Concacaf officials always want a USA/Mexico finals.
The gold cup wasn't created for a team like Trinidad to win... That's the facts
East Indians from Trinidad? Why not just say trinis were there.. Most trinis i know were watching the match on tv but I think we could have pulled a bigger fan base in Toronto than New York.. Just need time to promote it..
So you're mixed and you were raised in trini and was exposed to indo trinis yet you talk that rubbish above...
Yeah you can get back to football now, I just wanted to get to the bottom of the ignorance I was reading mate..
Post by: pull stones on July 20, 2015, 10:18:18 AM
you're killing me. what's your gripes mate are you indian and i somehow offended you? well if i did then i apologize. if it mean anything to you my nan died before i was born so i never got to meet her nor her relatives but my mom and he sister was the closest i got to being around indians especially when i grew up in st anns and left trinidad at 14. please leave me out of your ethnic rubbish i want no part of that nonsense.ok mate so that you know there's nothing to what i said, my nan is trinidadian indian which make my mom dougla, and i was born and raised in trinidad but spend most my life in england. can we go back to football now?could you blame them? there was barely 2000 trinis in the stadium yesterday which is a hop skip and a jump from new york city where over a millions trinidadians reside. could you imagine a trinidad tobago vs jamaica final in pensylvania or georgia, who would attend? i saw more east indians from trinidad at that game than any other demographic from trinbago, who said indians don't like football? football is about money and there must be either a mexican or an american team in the final to make it feasible and i certainly don't blame them. by the way mexico was the better team hands down and the referee probably did them a favor by not prolonging the inevitable.Concacaf officials always want a USA/Mexico finals.
The gold cup wasn't created for a team like Trinidad to win... That's the facts
East Indians from Trinidad? Why not just say trinis were there.. Most trinis i know were watching the match on tv but I think we could have pulled a bigger fan base in Toronto than New York.. Just need time to promote it..
So you're mixed and you were raised in trini and was exposed to indo trinis yet you talk that rubbish above...
Yeah you can get back to football now, I just wanted to get to the bottom of the ignorance I was reading mate..
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 20, 2015, 10:25:45 AM
Edit: many forumites were there: Big Dawg, FF, Bally, Trini Madness, as well as many other non-members
Post by: injunchile on July 20, 2015, 10:59:23 AM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 20, 2015, 11:01:31 AM
Post by: Tenorsaw on July 20, 2015, 11:21:17 AM
Post by: Controversial on July 20, 2015, 11:48:56 AM
When we played El Sal in Red Bull arena last GC there were about 500 trinis max in the stadium my estimate; yesterday we were somewhere in the 1 to 2k range; let's face it, there isn't much of a football culture w/our fans, so when there is momentum around the team and they are progressing more folks will come out. Had we made the final in Philly you'd probably get to around max 5k -10k range I would surmise
Edit: many forumites were there: Big Dawg, FF, Bally, Trini Madness, as well as many other non-members
What happened to the rhythm section boss?
It didn't hear a damn thing yesterday...
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 20, 2015, 12:01:43 PM
When we played El Sal in Red Bull arena last GC there were about 500 trinis max in the stadium my estimate; yesterday we were somewhere in the 1 to 2k range; let's face it, there isn't much of a football culture w/our fans, so when there is momentum around the team and they are progressing more folks will come out. Had we made the final in Philly you'd probably get to around max 5k -10k range I would surmise
Edit: many forumites were there: Big Dawg, FF, Bally, Trini Madness, as well as many other non-members
What happened to the rhythm section boss?
It didn't hear a damn thing yesterday...
It had none in the stadium during the game. Maybe they in the parking lot still.
Post by: FF on July 21, 2015, 03:09:48 PM
The ref gift them a penalty yes. Heartbreak for Costa Rica. I feel my hate for Mexico building once again.
Just in time for the road to the WC.
Couldn't depend on the penalty lottery to ensure the US-Mexico final...
Da ref is ah nastiness jedd!!!!
Yo is leave you and soldya left or allyuh was watchin from somewhere else? Yuh kno is only after allyuh leave I realize is you and yuh soldya padna! An I eh even get to tell him "thanks for your services" :rotfl:
Hahaha. For real. We watch from up top a little bit and then we ride. Bounce up Flex outside the stadium.
Post by: soccerman on July 21, 2015, 07:26:18 PM
Next time we have to try and organize to be in the same section. I only saw 4 forumites. The supporters for the team were spread out all over the stadium. Even if we make noise dem players cah hear or see all ah we.Yes! How can we organize a section for our supporters? There should be a way to reserve a block of tickets in a certain area.
Post by: kounty on July 22, 2015, 12:03:30 AM
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 04:42:26 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 04:45:35 PM
Post by: futbolfan on July 22, 2015, 04:46:48 PM
Post by: Controversial on July 22, 2015, 04:54:47 PM
I know allyuh watching. Doh be sour because is Jamaica.
Trinidad players need to learn to love their nation like Jamaicans
They should play with pride... They didn't in the quarter.. That's why I have right to call them out..
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 04:55:34 PM
Looking for 2 red cards and 3 penalty in the 2nd half....dem ref go get ah half time lecture.
Steups, that shit side looking for licks whole tournament.
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 04:56:08 PM
I know allyuh watching. Doh be sour because is Jamaica.
Trinidad players need to learn to love their nation like Jamaicans
They should play with pride... They didn't in the quarter.. That's why I have right to call them out..
Haul yuh ass, yuh talking shit.
Post by: Controversial on July 22, 2015, 04:58:22 PM
I know allyuh watching. Doh be sour because is Jamaica.
Trinidad players need to learn to love their nation like Jamaicans
They should play with pride... They didn't in the quarter.. That's why I have right to call them out..
Haul yuh ass, yuh talking shit.
Where is Trinidad now?
Post by: injunchile on July 22, 2015, 05:00:37 PM
Post by: futbolfan on July 22, 2015, 05:00:48 PM
Looking for 2 red cards and 3 penalty in the 2nd half....dem ref go get ah half time lecture.
Steups, that shit side looking for licks whole tournament.
Iz de first time in awhile that both Mexico and the US have sub-par teams that look beatable by anyone not named Cuba.
Bodes well for the WC qualifying rounds as there will be no easy games...
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 05:04:26 PM
So them men draw Mexico 4-4 how? With shame? They loss a football match. You are an ass.I know allyuh watching. Doh be sour because is Jamaica.
Trinidad players need to learn to love their nation like Jamaicans
They should play with pride... They didn't in the quarter.. That's why I have right to call them out..
Haul yuh ass, yuh talking shit.
Where is Trinidad now?
What in that Panama game had anything to do with pride?
Man who cyah kick a lime, never play anything beyond small-goal and feel coaching involve a horse and Cinderella always have something to say.
Post by: futbolfan on July 22, 2015, 05:05:05 PM
I know allyuh watching. Doh be sour because is Jamaica.
Trinidad players need to learn to love their nation like Jamaicans
They should play with pride... They didn't in the quarter.. That's why I have right to call them out..
Haul yuh ass, yuh talking shit.
Where is Trinidad now?
Stupesss...oh gosh you...done it nah... yuh making yuhself out to be ah real nuisance now. 'WE' lorse, fellahs gave their all...talk done.
Post by: Controversial on July 22, 2015, 05:09:59 PM
So them men draw Mexico 4-4 how? With shame? They loss a football match. You are an ass.I know allyuh watching. Doh be sour because is Jamaica.
Trinidad players need to learn to love their nation like Jamaicans
They should play with pride... They didn't in the quarter.. That's why I have right to call them out..
Haul yuh ass, yuh talking shit.
Where is Trinidad now?
What in that Panama game had anything to do with pride?
Man who cyah kick a lime, never play anything beyond small-goal and feel coaching involve a horse and Cinderella always have something to say.
You're a dunce or what?
I talking about the quarter final and you running your mouth about he Mexico match..
Read and comprehend idiot..
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 05:16:13 PM
Post by: futbolfan on July 22, 2015, 05:20:02 PM
Was that ball secure in the GK's hand?
Dais a foul in any other game.
On another note...That JA keeper terrible.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 05:27:08 PM
Post by: kaliman2006 on July 22, 2015, 05:29:30 PM
I know allyuh watching. Doh be sour because is Jamaica.
Go Jamaica! Beat the Americans!
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 05:43:06 PM
So them men draw Mexico 4-4 how? With shame? They loss a football match. You are an ass.I know allyuh watching. Doh be sour because is Jamaica.
Trinidad players need to learn to love their nation like Jamaicans
They should play with pride... They didn't in the quarter.. That's why I have right to call them out..
Haul yuh ass, yuh talking shit.
Where is Trinidad now?
What in that Panama game had anything to do with pride?
Man who cyah kick a lime, never play anything beyond small-goal and feel coaching involve a horse and Cinderella always have something to say.
You're a dunce or what?
I talking about the quarter final and you running your mouth about he Mexico match..
Read and comprehend idiot..
Sorry breds, I realize I made a foolish assumption.
When I put the first sentence about the Mexico game and the 2nd one about the Panama game together, I left unwritten a thought about whether the team lost it's pride in the 4 days between the games.
Nonetheless, you're still an ass. I think I was clear about that.
And now I'm done with this.
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 05:44:41 PM
I forget: I believe that we will win!
Post by: OutsideMan on July 22, 2015, 05:52:32 PM
The 6-second rule never ever came-up during the US commentaries whenever the US goalkeepers held the ball whenever they were leading in the 2nd half. Hmmmmmmm....maybe it's just a coincidence. ;D
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 05:56:46 PM
look how the ratings just gone down.
Post by: futbolfan on July 22, 2015, 05:57:53 PM
How come all of a sudden, these US commentators are suddenly experts on the Goalkeeper 6-second rule???
The 6-second rule never ever came-up during the US commentaries whenever the US goalkeepers held the ball whenever they were leading in the 2nd half. Hmmmmmmm....maybe it's just a coincidence. ;D
Stupesss....welp welp welp....all of a sudden dey complaining bout time wasting. Now when iz dem iz ah great tactic.
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 05:58:20 PM
Post by: Sando prince on July 22, 2015, 05:58:58 PM
The Jamaicans showed up with a mission on their mind at this year Gold Cup. I am sure they are still hungry
Post by: Controversial on July 22, 2015, 06:02:36 PM
The Jamaicans showed up with a mission on their mind at this year Gold Cup. I am sure they are still hungry
Pride and passion...
Where was the hunger from our players in the quarter final?
Congrats to Jamaica ... When you love your nation..l you play with your heart and soul for it..
Post by: davyjenny1 on July 22, 2015, 06:03:19 PM
finally U.S.A get expose today. Not surprise a Caribbean side in the finals of the 2015 GC.
Post by: Peong on July 22, 2015, 06:04:07 PM
Real good goals from the yardies.
Post by: kaliman2006 on July 22, 2015, 06:04:18 PM
I wish Jamaica all the best in the final.
There is no reason why Jamaica can't win the whole thing.
Jamaica is well organized defensively and can score when it has to
Post by: OutsideMan on July 22, 2015, 06:04:34 PM
Licksssssss!!!!
look how the ratings just gone down.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Post by: OutsideMan on July 22, 2015, 06:05:46 PM
How come all of a sudden, these US commentators are suddenly experts on the Goalkeeper 6-second rule???
The 6-second rule never ever came-up during the US commentaries whenever the US goalkeepers held the ball whenever they were leading in the 2nd half. Hmmmmmmm....maybe it's just a coincidence. ;D
Stupesss....welp welp welp....all of a sudden dey complaining bout time wasting. Now when iz dem iz ah great tactic.
Yeah, tru' talk. .. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Post by: lefty on July 22, 2015, 06:06:09 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 06:06:18 PM
The Jamaicans showed up with a mission on their mind at this year Gold Cup. I am sure they are still hungry
Pride and passion...
Where was the hunger from our players in the quarter final?
Congrats to Jamaica ... When you love your nation..l you play with your heart and soul for it..
Ay!
Haul yuh ass!
Post by: Sando prince on July 22, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Two CFU sides show up U.S.A & Mexico.
Shit side get expose. Not surprise a Caribbean side in the finals of the 2015 GC.
Who is the second CFU team besides the one that played today (JA) that showed up?
I am happy for JA but I am not going to pretend that I am not surprised they are in the final. I think most people are surprised. I hope they win the final
Post by: kaliman2006 on July 22, 2015, 06:08:33 PM
The Jamaicans showed up with a mission on their mind at this year Gold Cup. I am sure they are still hungry
Pride and passion...
Where was the hunger from our players in the quarter final?
Congrats to Jamaica ... When you love your nation..l you play with your heart and soul for it..
Boss, Jamaica is a better organized team defensively than the Warriors are by a mile.
Any top European team would be proud of the way Jamaica held its defensive shape in the face of predictable American attacks.
The Warriors tried their best, and considering the poor level of preparation for the Gold Cup, actually exceeded my expectations, leading me to raise them for the quarterfinal.
Jamaica actually has a very good chance to win the tournament.
Post by: davyjenny1 on July 22, 2015, 06:09:30 PM
Post by: futbolfan on July 22, 2015, 06:10:09 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 06:10:27 PM
Post by: breezers on July 22, 2015, 06:11:04 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 06:12:21 PM
Post by: FF on July 22, 2015, 06:12:44 PM
If only the USA players had pride, they would not have lost this game.
Hahahaha.
Men who never kick a lime ... :D lmao
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 22, 2015, 06:15:29 PM
Majority ah de forumIf only the USA players had pride, they would not have lost this game.
Hahahaha.
Men who never kick a lime ... :D lmao
Post by: Cocorite on July 22, 2015, 06:32:04 PM
Post by: reggae-fan on July 22, 2015, 06:38:07 PM
Apart from our goalie, I think we executed well in all departments.
I am pretty sure the Mexicans might be having second thoughts after that rough up they got vs T&T.
Post by: FF on July 22, 2015, 06:42:30 PM
Majority ah de forumIf only the USA players had pride, they would not have lost this game.
Hahahaha.
Men who never kick a lime ... :D lmao
Majority of them ent know-it-all posers though...
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 22, 2015, 06:43:31 PM
I'll have to take a minute to let this one sink in. I believe our strength In defense has made us into a formidable unit. I don't believe we will be able to hold onto Schaeffer. He is a master tactician.
Apart from our goalie, I think we executed well in all departments.
I am pretty sure the Mexicans might be having second thoughts after that rough up they got vs T&T.
Congrats Reggae Fan!
Moments like this have to be cherished when they occur, so enjoy to the max and enjoy the final, best of luck against whomever :beermug:
Post by: 100% Barataria on July 22, 2015, 06:44:23 PM
Majority ah de forumIf only the USA players had pride, they would not have lost this game.
Hahahaha.
Men who never kick a lime ... :D lmao
Majority of them ent know-it-all posers though...
Sense and agreed :beermug:
Post by: Michael-j on July 22, 2015, 06:57:01 PM
I'll have to take a minute to let this one sink in. I believe our strength In defense has made us into a formidable unit. I don't believe we will be able to hold onto Schaeffer. He is a master tactician.
Apart from our goalie, I think we executed well in all departments.
I am pretty sure the Mexicans might be having second thoughts after that rough up they got vs T&T.
Congrats man! I got a little worried after Jamaica scored the first goal as I thought they would just sit back and try to defend the slim lead for the rest of the game...good to see them pressing for the second. Well done to your team. Best of luck in the final! :beermug:
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 07:33:21 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 07:35:56 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 07:36:22 PM
Post by: lefty on July 22, 2015, 07:36:27 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 07:37:34 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 07:38:14 PM
Good Mexican behavior again.Do you think that red card was harsh?
Post by: futbolfan on July 22, 2015, 07:40:14 PM
I'll have to take a minute to let this one sink in. I believe our strength In defense has made us into a formidable unit. I don't believe we will be able to hold onto Schaeffer. He is a master tactician.
Apart from our goalie, I think we executed well in all departments.
I am pretty sure the Mexicans might be having second thoughts after that rough up they got vs T&T.
Congrats RF....Well deserved victory.
Remind the analyst that this is not the greatest victory by a JA team. If I remember correctly, you did beat Japan in a 1998 WC game...
Post by: davyjenny1 on July 22, 2015, 07:55:21 PM
Two CFU sides show up U.S.A & Mexico.
Shit side get expose. Not surprise a Caribbean side in the finals of the 2015 GC.
Who is the second CFU team besides the one that played today (JA) that showed up?
I am happy for JA but I am not going to pretend that I am not surprised they are in the final. I think most people are surprised. I hope they win the final
Good god! it's elementary, i ment during the tournament and today as well.
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 08:23:46 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 08:34:06 PM
Good Mexican behavior again.Do you think that red card was harsh?
Direct red? Didn't see it in real time, but it seems the referee was deceived by the exaggerated reaction of the player challenging Tejada.
Hopefully a post-match review sorts it out.
Post by: futbolfan on July 22, 2015, 08:38:17 PM
Also, as bad as Mexico has been, this will be a testament to show that Panama was a formidable opponent who only beat us by penalties....
Post by: Sando prince on July 22, 2015, 08:42:24 PM
Two CFU sides show up U.S.A & Mexico.
Shit side get expose. Not surprise a Caribbean side in the finals of the 2015 GC.
Who is the second CFU team besides the one that played today (JA) that showed up?
I am happy for JA but I am not going to pretend that I am not surprised they are in the final. I think most people are surprised. I hope they win the final
Good god! it's elementary, i ment during the tournament and today as well.
I am talking about during the tournament. Its CLEAR you dont get it!
Post by: Michael-j on July 22, 2015, 08:47:13 PM
If this score holds, the Mexican coach getting ah pink slip on the way to the dressing room.
Also, as bad as Mexico has been, this will be a testament to show that Panama was a formidable opponent who only beat us by penalties....
Looks like the organizers may get their coveted USA vs Mexico match-up after all :rotfl:
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 08:56:34 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 08:56:40 PM
That penalty is BS
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 08:57:07 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 08:59:22 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 09:01:13 PM
Post by: ckhan on July 22, 2015, 09:04:33 PM
Post by: Trinidogg on July 22, 2015, 09:05:01 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 09:06:04 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 09:07:44 PM
:bs: :bs: :bs:
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 09:12:14 PM
Post by: Deeks on July 22, 2015, 09:13:44 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 09:14:26 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 09:14:58 PM
What was the score?1-1
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 09:15:41 PM
If this score holds, the Mexican coach getting ah pink slip on the way to the dressing room.
Also, as bad as Mexico has been, this will be a testament to show that Panama was a formidable opponent who only beat us by penalties....
There's a good chance he gehhin it either way.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 09:16:44 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 09:17:29 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 09:17:50 PM
Post by: davyjenny1 on July 22, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
Two CFU sides show up U.S.A & Mexico.
Shit side get expose. Not surprise a Caribbean side in the finals of the 2015 GC.
Who is the second CFU team besides the one that played today (JA) that showed up?
I am happy for JA but I am not going to pretend that I am not surprised they are in the final. I think most people are surprised. I hope they win the final
Good god! it's elementary, i ment during the tournament and today as well.
I am talking about during the tournament. Its CLEAR you dont get it!
LOUD!!! STEUPS................. not me and you tonight sah... Go find someone else to debate. Let the thread stay on course guy.
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 09:19:36 PM
Where is the ref from?USA
Post by: pull stones on July 22, 2015, 09:20:02 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 09:26:19 PM
Where is the ref from?USA
I was now coming to post how nobody in the studio talking about how bad the ref is, and how FIFA need to do something about the poor officiating.
Post by: socalion on July 22, 2015, 09:30:54 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 09:31:39 PM
That one is a penalty though. Hard luck dey Panama.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 09:34:18 PM
Where is the ref from?USA
I was now coming to post how nobody in the studio talking about how bad the ref is, and how FIFA need to do something about the poor officiating.
No ref from the US should be officiating at the semifinal stage when the US has/had a continuing interest in the GC. There are enough officials from non-involved nations to rotate unquestionably disinterested referees.
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 09:34:33 PM
Steups.
That one is a penalty though. Hard luck dey Panama.
Panama's players lost their temperament
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 09:35:31 PM
Post by: ckhan on July 22, 2015, 09:37:02 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 09:38:49 PM
Post by: Controversial on July 22, 2015, 09:43:31 PM
More drama .... another penalty.
Missed most of the game, what's all the drama about?
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 09:45:38 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 09:48:54 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 09:50:18 PM
More drama .... another penalty.
Missed most of the game, what's all the drama about?
Who have less pride.
Post by: Bitter on July 22, 2015, 09:54:11 PM
Who you got for the fight after the game :duel:
The ref
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 09:57:22 PM
Who you got for the fight after the game :duel:
The ref
:rotfl: security had to rescue the ref yes
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 09:58:27 PM
Panama's coach don't get rattled at all, dat man always cool under pressure
Yep. But pity these stations don't show the press conferences. That's where fireworks will fly.
Post by: Controversial on July 22, 2015, 10:00:55 PM
More drama .... another penalty.
Missed most of the game, what's all the drama about?
Who have less pride.
If I saw the full game... I would tell you..
Post by: Trini _2026 on July 22, 2015, 10:01:49 PM
Post by: soccerman on July 22, 2015, 10:07:17 PM
More drama .... another penalty.
Missed most of the game, what's all the drama about?
The game was chippy from the start and some controversial calls were made including a straight red for a Panama forward in the 1st half. Despite that, Panama took the lead only for the ref to award Mexico a questionable penalty in the 89th min......then all hell broke loose.
Post by: pull stones on July 22, 2015, 10:07:53 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on July 22, 2015, 10:18:20 PM
FIFA.com
Darren Mattocks and Giles Barnes were on target as Jamaica claimed a major upset with a 2-1 defeat over defending champions USA to reach their first-ever CONCACAF Gold Cup final.
Two goals in the space of five first-half minutes at the Georgia Dome were enough to give Winfried Schafer's Reggae Boyz the victory despite Michael Bradley reducing the deficit at the beginning of the second half as Jamaica held on to become the first Caribbean side to ever reach the final.
After an uneventful opening quarter, Jurgen Klinsmann's five-time winners began to dominate midway through the first half as Aron Johannsson tested goalkeeper Ryan Thompson and then Gyasi Zardes fired over the crossbar with a powerful effort as they searched for the opener.
Moments later Johannsson forced a mistake from an under-pressure Thompson, who failed the clear the ball, as the former kicked the ball into the side netting, then Fabian Johnson forced a diving save from the Jamaica stopper.
But against the run of play, Jamaica took a shock lead as Vancouver Whitecaps striker Mattocks flicked on from Kemar Lawrence's long throw-in, first beating goalkeeper Brad Guzan with his effort, which then struck the inside of the post before bobbling over the line.
The opener seemed to knock the co-hosts for six and it did not take long for Barnes to send his perfect free-kick on the edge of the penalty box over the defensive wall and past a diving Guzan to make it two.
The Unites States came out all guns blazing in the second half and it did not take them long to reduce the deficit. Just three minutes in, Johannsson brought a save out of Thompson but the keeper fumbled the ball out to Bradley, who made no mistake as he pulled one back from close range.
The goal gave the co-hosts renewed hope and a free-kick followed moments later after Johannsson was brought down by just outside the 18-yard box, but Thompson managed to keep the ball out. Clint Dempsey had a near miss close to the hour mark and John Brooks' header almost got past Thompson 10 minutes later, but Jamaica held on to reach their first-ever final.
Post by: Peong on July 22, 2015, 10:20:29 PM
This was a sad game.
Post by: Controversial on July 22, 2015, 10:26:41 PM
More drama .... another penalty.
Missed most of the game, what's all the drama about?
The game was chippy from the start and some controversial calls were made including a straight red for a Panama forward in the 1st half. Despite that, Panama took the lead only for the ref to award Mexico a questionable penalty in the 89th min......then all hell broke loose.
Thanks brother... Had a feeling some cheating by the ref was going on... Terrible...
I wish I could see a fair game called..
Post by: Peong on July 22, 2015, 10:39:19 PM
I wish I knew what he was saying.
Only thing I made out is "Asi es futbol", "That's football."
Post by: Flex on July 23, 2015, 02:00:30 AM
T&T Express.
THE consensus among many journalists and other media professionals attending the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup was, when in full flow Trinidad and Tobago’s Soca Warriors were the best attacking team at the CONCACAF Gold Cup.
The view was shared as well by CONCACAF officials who travelled from venue to venue across the United States for the matches. In their final match, the exhausted Warriors drew with Panama (1-1) after 120 minutes before going 6-5 in a penalty shoot-out at the quarter-final stage.
Panama managed the game better in very hot conditions and were the better team over 120 minutes. Even so, T&T showed glimpses of good attacking in the first half, and the ease in which Cordell Cato and Joevin Jones skipped past Panama defenders in the early stages was impressive, before fatigue seemed to take a toll on them.
Trinidad and Tobago head-coach Stephen Hart said: “We scored on everyone,” reminding those present that in four matches, T&T had put in nine goals. And except for the wild 4-4 draw with Mexico, he believed they defended pretty well also.
Post by: Peong on July 23, 2015, 08:12:45 AM
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Post by: Controversial on July 23, 2015, 08:15:37 AM
"CONCACAF THIEVES"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKkudMfUsAA9GA6.jpg)
Wow....
Post by: asylumseeker on July 23, 2015, 09:09:58 AM
Hopefully we note Mark Geiger's name as a ref we don't wish to see near any of our fixtures, home or away. His assistants contributed to the decision-making and should also be duly noted.
Post by: Controversial on July 23, 2015, 09:10:28 AM
The Panamanian fed has already reached out to CONCACAF regarding yesterday's ugly events.
Hopefully we note Mark Geiger's name as a ref we don't wish to see near any of our fixtures, home or away. His assistants contributed to the decision-making and should also be duly noted.
He should be suspended but I doubt that will happen, definitely not in wcqs ....
Post by: Peong on July 23, 2015, 09:19:01 AM
This is supposedly a Panama newspaper.
Just checked, it is real.
http://www.critica.com.pa/
It starts, "El gringo Mark Geiger..." :rotfl:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKmABZEWEAEXBl5.jpg)
Post by: Spursy on July 23, 2015, 11:06:53 AM
If we didn't have a hispanic referee when Panama played us we would of gotten alot more calls as well. Go home Panama. Happy Mexico made it instead of them.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 23, 2015, 11:24:10 AM
Ey Panama deserve to go home. They played nasty football the entire tournament. The penalty claim was legit. Foul or no the referee let play go on then number 5 dived on the ball. If you look at the replay he knew exactly where the ball was and dived on it. It's a straight up penalty.
If we didn't have a hispanic referee when Panama played us we would of gotten alot more calls as well. Go home Panama. Happy Mexico made it instead of them.
Even if we accept all the above to be accurate, what about Mexico's progression from the Costa Rica match?
Post by: Controversial on July 23, 2015, 11:32:23 AM
Ey Panama deserve to go home. They played nasty football the entire tournament. The penalty claim was legit. Foul or no the referee let play go on then number 5 dived on the ball. If you look at the replay he knew exactly where the ball was and dived on it. It's a straight up penalty.
If we didn't have a hispanic referee when Panama played us we would of gotten alot more calls as well. Go home Panama. Happy Mexico made it instead of them.
Even if we accept all the above to be accurate, what about Mexico's progression from the Costa Rica match?
That's the kicker isn't it? :D
Post by: Controversial on July 23, 2015, 11:34:12 AM
Is this real?
This is supposedly a Panama newspaper.
Just checked, it is real.
http://www.critica.com.pa/
It starts, "El gringo Mark Geiger..." :rotfl:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKmABZEWEAEXBl5.jpg)
This is going to be the most fierce World Cup campaign in a long time.. Mark my words..
Post by: asylumseeker on July 23, 2015, 11:39:08 AM
What he didn't say is that no one in Mexico would have forgiven him for pursuing the first option. He would probably have lost the armband as well.
Post by: futbolfan on July 23, 2015, 11:51:56 AM
Guardado claims he thought briefly about misfiring on the penalty. But then said, other teams have not treated Mexico with mercy in the past when calls were flawed. He said at the end of the day, he's a professional and had to execute as a professional.
What he didn't say is that no one in Mexico would have forgiven him for pursuing the first option. He would probably have lost the armband as well.
So he basically admitting that the ref gifted them a penalty and their team did not deserve to play in the finals...
Post by: Peong on July 23, 2015, 11:53:36 AM
So he basically admitting that the ref gifted them a penalty and their team did not deserve to play in the finals...
Herrera himself said he didn't think it was a penalty.
Post by: futbolfan on July 23, 2015, 12:04:40 PM
"CONCACAF THIEVES"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKkudMfUsAA9GA6.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKk1vOxVAAAHOCi.jpg)
I understand that they are upset about the decision, but to go after the confederation in this manner is a bit childish.
If dey eh like CONCACAF, go join up with CONMEBOL and see how far yuh will progress.
Post by: Spursy on July 23, 2015, 12:36:35 PM
Post by: Banter Banton on July 23, 2015, 12:37:06 PM
Post by: Spursy on July 23, 2015, 12:42:06 PM
Post by: Peong on July 23, 2015, 12:49:05 PM
Ey Panama deserve to go home. They played nasty football the entire tournament. The penalty claim was legit. Foul or no the referee let play go on then number 5 dived on the ball. If you look at the replay he knew exactly where the ball was and dived on it. It's a straight up penalty.
If we didn't have a hispanic referee when Panama played us we would of gotten alot more calls as well. Go home Panama. Happy Mexico made it instead of them.
Nah man, the ball was up in the air and he threw himself attempting to head it. When he started his attempt there was no way to know where the ball would land. He actually lost sight of the ball as it passed over the top of his head. Then when he lands on it it touched his elbow and he immediately tried to get his arms out of the way.
Plus the Mexican was pulling him back trying to get the ball when he attempted to kick it back over his head.
It should have been a free kick for Panama instead of all that horseshit we see there.
Post by: Spursy on July 23, 2015, 12:52:19 PM
Ey Panama deserve to go home. They played nasty football the entire tournament. The penalty claim was legit. Foul or no the referee let play go on then number 5 dived on the ball. If you look at the replay he knew exactly where the ball was and dived on it. It's a straight up penalty.
If we didn't have a hispanic referee when Panama played us we would of gotten alot more calls as well. Go home Panama. Happy Mexico made it instead of them.
Nah man, the ball was up in the air and he threw himself attempting to head it. When he started his attempt there was no way to know where the ball would land. He actually lost sight of the ball as it passed over the top of his head. Then when he lands on it it touched his elbow and he immediately tried to get his arms out of the way.
Plus the Mexican was pulling him back trying to get the ball when he attempted to kick it back over his head.
It should have been a free kick for Panama instead of all that horseshit we see there.
Look at the replay again. There was a foul on number 5, the referee said play on, he knew exactly where the ball was. He saw where it fell then dropped his body on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE43dom3zzI
Post by: Football supporter on July 23, 2015, 12:54:10 PM
The Mexico men’s soccer team beat Panama Wednesday night in Atlanta in the semi-finals of the CONCACAF Gold Cup, on a 2-1 overtime win.
A penalty kick assigned by the referee at the 88th minute was a questionable call, and at the time, Panama was winning 1-0. The Mexican player scored the penalty kick, the match went to overtime and, on a second penalty kick, Mexico scored for a 2-1 win, making its way to the final.
It was absolutely legal for the Mexican player to score the first penalty kick. The referee assigned the penalty using his granted authority. But was scoring the kick an ethical decision?
After the referee assigned the first penalty kick, the Panamanian players complained, claiming there was no foul. The coach and his staff did the same. Even some Mexico supporters at the stadium didn't like the call. Controversy and chaos interrupted the match for almost ten minutes.
But the referee's decision stood. And therefore, from a "legal" perspective, the Mexican player was fine to score it, as he finally did.
During an after-match interview, the Mexican player admitted he knew the penalty call was a mistake. The player admitted thinking about whether or not he should score it. He finally decided, he said in the interview, that “it was not my fault if the referee made a mistake and, as a professional soccer player, I had to try my best to score.”
The Mexican coach, in his interview, said “there are instances when mistakes are assigned against my team and others take advantage of that, and there are instances when mistakes are assigned in our favor, and we should take advantage of that as well.”
The thoughtfulness and honesty were impressive.
I was impressed too with the opinions of several Mexican journalists (TV and digital media) who spoke out against scoring the penalty kick. Most agreed it wasn't the right thing to do because it wasn't "the most ethical decision," even though not scoring would have resulted in Mexico’s elimination from the competition.
I'm not judging the decisions taken on the field or the opinions expressed afterwards. I'm simply calling attention to the legal-versus-ethical dilemma that arose during the match. It was extraordinary to watch the drama play out not in business, or politics, but in sport.
And so today I'm asking: Do we all face such dilemmas more often than we might initially realize -- even in many of the casual and common situations of our lives?
- See more at: http://www.fcpablog.com/blog/2015/7/23/mexico-beats-panama-2-1-and-a-legal-versus-ethical-dilemma-l.html#sthash.3BxMKpMC.dpuf
Post by: Peong on July 23, 2015, 01:07:20 PM
Look at the replay again. There was a foul on number 5, the referee said play on, he knew exactly where the ball was. He saw where it fell then dropped his body on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE43dom3zzI
1. Playing on after Torres #5 gets fouled is a bad call. There's no advantage for the team of the fouled player by playing on, which is the whole purpose of the "play on" concept.
2. He is already falling when the ball is still above him. How is he supposed to avoid falling on the ball? Teleportation?
Post by: asylumseeker on July 23, 2015, 01:19:26 PM
I understand that they are upset about the decision, but to go after the confederation in this manner is a bit childish.
If dey eh like CONCACAF, go join up with CONMEBOL and see how far yuh will progress.
Completely disagree.
Players have limited avenues through which to express their displeasure. They've swallowed a lot and the banner is a symbol of team solidarity consistent with any individual tweet that's out there or that they could have opted for. Their federation has initiated protest via official channels. The players need an outlet to express the emotion of the game. All they are saying is that they were cheated. They were.
The thing about joining CONMEBOL is unfair. Why join CONMEBOL? Because they speak Spanish? Why? Because somehow that allows us to recognize that they are not on par with Argentina or Brazil or Chile? Does that render them less worthy of strenuously expressing disgust at the game that they lived yesterday?
Unlike us, Panama isn't struggling to secure friendlies. In fact, they have one coming up on September 4 versus Uruguay in Panama. They are evolving a football program that not so long ago, no one would have taken at all seriously. Making it to the final would have been a huge step in not only recognition of the program, but also of continuity. One of the comments I read cynically told the FPF to wrap up with football and to return to "their game", baseball. The idea being they would receive the respect they earned and deserved in that arena.
They didn't walk off the pitch. I've been around games where individual players would have walked off for less ... to say nothing of adding insult to injury and being "stoned" with projectiles from the Mexican fan base. (Incidentally, who was addressing that while they suffered what was occurring on the pitch. After all, it's not like CONCACAF and the officials were not on notice of the conduct of Mexico's support).
The football world appreciates that an unjust outcome was visited on them. Voices from South American football have weighed in opinions registering agreement with the injustice. Mario Kempes for one tweeted his opinion. A former president of Costa Rica and the current president of Panama have publicly registered their opinions on that matter. The calm coach, Bollilo Gomez, himself described what occurred as being akin to armed robbery. He said that at a point during the proceedings he contemplated retiring from the game because what occurred was counter to football.
What they can be reprimanded for is running to confront the referee after the match in a manner that more resembled a chase ... perhaps even intimidation ... rather than face to face disagreement. Clearly that was orchestrated. However Gomez himself went to quell that. Essentially, no punches were thrown, the situation didn't escalate and they were largely respectful of the process.
The game is nothing without players and CONCACAF needs to know that a concern has festered.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 23, 2015, 01:32:53 PM
Tejada and company going to face alot of disciplinary fines and suspensions for putting their hands on the referee. Esp Tejada for refusing to leave the pitch.
Left to be seen.
Had the ref issued Tejada a yellow and Tejada took issue with that, sufficient to support another yellow, no one would have had issue with that.
Your view of the calls is the minority view. Consider that seasoned commentators and observers of the sport ... from all sorts of perspectives (including Mexican commentators) see it other than you see it. Notably, in that clip you presented the commentator finds the call laughable ... and he was in deed laughing. Yuh din hear him?
Post by: reggae-fan on July 23, 2015, 01:46:53 PM
I understand the disappointment, but red cards, and bad calls are part of the game.
At the end of the day, the ball did hit the players hand in the box...whether accidental or deliberate is up to the interpretation of the 3 officials on the field.
Post by: Controversial on July 23, 2015, 02:07:33 PM
Post by: Peong on July 23, 2015, 02:10:56 PM
My only guess is that the ref thought it was just some roughing up by Vela and not an intentional strike on an opponent.
It was probably hard to see.
Post by: Dinner Mints on July 23, 2015, 02:15:31 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 23, 2015, 02:17:15 PM
Ey Panama deserve to go home. They played nasty football the entire tournament. The penalty claim was legit. Foul or no the referee let play go on then number 5 dived on the ball. If you look at the replay he knew exactly where the ball was and dived on it. It's a straight up penalty.
If we didn't have a hispanic referee when Panama played us we would of gotten alot more calls as well. Go home Panama. Happy Mexico made it instead of them.
Nah man, the ball was up in the air and he threw himself attempting to head it. When he started his attempt there was no way to know where the ball would land. He actually lost sight of the ball as it passed over the top of his head. Then when he lands on it it touched his elbow and he immediately tried to get his arms out of the way.
Plus the Mexican was pulling him back trying to get the ball when he attempted to kick it back over his head.
It should have been a free kick for Panama instead of all that horseshit we see there.
Look at the replay again. There was a foul on number 5, the referee said play on, he knew exactly where the ball was. He saw where it fell then dropped his body on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE43dom3zzI
You on shit hoss! De man slipping and contorting in the air after momentarily losing sight of the ball. No way that intentional! No how no chance!
Post by: NUFF on July 23, 2015, 03:04:08 PM
As for the first penalty call, that was pure crap. Torres fell on the ball and as soon as he realized his elbow touched the ball he tried to get his hand out of the way. He was falling with his back to the ball and could not see where the ball was in relation to his hand.
What I saw last night sure as hell looked like someone was determined to make sure Mexico made it to the finals by whatever means necessary.
I long to see the day when both Mexico and USA fail to qualify for the world cup because until then I don't think Concacaf will change the way they operate.
Post by: sjahrain on July 23, 2015, 04:53:58 PM
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Post by: sjahrain on July 23, 2015, 05:04:55 PM
You could see it coming,from the straight red Tajada got in the first half,to add insult to injury,while playing one man down Panama took the lead
The ref proved to be the ultimate PULL STONES
Post by: soccerman on July 23, 2015, 08:12:54 PM
Post by: Controversial on July 23, 2015, 08:32:15 PM
No way was that a red card on Tajada and no way that first penalty for Mexico should've been called. The officiating was poor!
it was almost like the ref was waiting for a slip up to call something against panama :D
Post by: Tiresais on July 24, 2015, 04:50:41 AM
Post by: Brownsugar on July 24, 2015, 06:56:10 AM
Post by: Controversial on July 24, 2015, 01:07:22 PM
Panama's coach don't get rattled at all, dat man always cool under pressure
Yep. But pity these stations don't show the press conferences. That's where fireworks will fly.
The question needs to be asked..would the ref do this to a Brazil or US.. Or a Nederlands or Japan..
Highly doubt it.. Monkey know which tree to climb..
Post by: Peong on July 25, 2015, 12:56:36 PM
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/concacaf-says-referee-admits-errors-in-contentious-gold-cup-semifinal-072515?adbsc=social_20150725_49746006&adbid=10153209336322946&adbpl=fb&adbpr=81286652945
Gold Cup: Panama's Jaime Penedo, Luis Tejada, Mexico coach Luis Herrera, and USMNT's Michael Bradley all disciplined by CONCACAF
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/07/24/gold-cup-panamas-jaime-penedo-luis-tejada-mexico-coach-luis-herrera-and-usmn
Post by: grimm01 on July 25, 2015, 03:22:38 PM
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Post by: AB.Trini on July 25, 2015, 04:41:58 PM
Here we go again- penalties - leh we serif Panama got more horse shoes
Post by: Spursy on July 25, 2015, 04:52:31 PM
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Post by: AB.Trini on July 25, 2015, 05:07:16 PM
us lorse...
LOVE IT - shed no tear for the usa - now to see Mexico go down. So etimesDefeat is sweet - especially when it conquers arrogance - yeah Zeppo -
Just maybe this tournamentcouldbeheldintheCaribbean - different groups hostedby different islands thenTnT hosting the semis and finals
Post by: Spursy on July 25, 2015, 05:09:19 PM
Post by: pull stones on July 25, 2015, 05:54:23 PM
i dont think the usa is any bothered about losing this inconsequential game.us lorse...
LOVE IT - shed no tear for the usa - now to see Mexico go down. So etimesDefeat is sweet - especially when it conquers arrogance - yeah Zeppo -
Just maybe this tournamentcouldbeheldintheCaribbean - different groups hostedby different islands thenTnT hosting the semis and finals
Post by: reggae-fan on July 25, 2015, 06:50:40 PM
i dont think the usa is any bothered about losing this inconsequential game.us lorse...
LOVE IT - shed no tear for the usa - now to see Mexico go down. So etimesDefeat is sweet - especially when it conquers arrogance - yeah Zeppo -
Just maybe this tournamentcouldbeheldintheCaribbean - different groups hostedby different islands thenTnT hosting the semis and finals
Let the tournament remain in the USA. I don't believe there is much of an advantage for the host country, as all the countries that participate has an immigrant population in the united states.
Our region, on the whole lack basic facility and infrastructure to properly stage a tournament without having to run to the tax-paying public for financing. the USA, and to a lesser extent Canada and Mexico have the financial might to host...the caribbean doesnt.
Its much harder to play and win in places like san pedro sula in the middle of summer...in the USA i believe its a more level playing field for everyone.
Post by: pull stones on July 26, 2015, 03:28:03 AM
what on earth are you talking about? i never suggest that the tournament should move. i was referring to the yanks losing to panama.i dont think the usa is any bothered about losing this inconsequential game.us lorse...
LOVE IT - shed no tear for the usa - now to see Mexico go down. So etimesDefeat is sweet - especially when it conquers arrogance - yeah Zeppo -
Just maybe this tournamentcouldbeheldintheCaribbean - different groups hostedby different islands thenTnT hosting the semis and finals
Let the tournament remain in the USA. I don't believe there is much of an advantage for the host country, as all the countries that participate has an immigrant population in the united states.
Our region, on the whole lack basic facility and infrastructure to properly stage a tournament without having to run to the tax-paying public for financing. the USA, and to a lesser extent Canada and Mexico have the financial might to host...the caribbean doesnt.
Its much harder to play and win in places like san pedro sula in the middle of summer...in the USA i believe its a more level playing field for everyone.
Post by: pull stones on July 26, 2015, 03:47:05 AM
non the less i would be supporting you and hope that you could pull a rabbit out of a hat despite the rude uncanny remarks made by rudy austin last november in the caribbean cup where he acted like a total wanker. that really had me gast for a while.
Post by: reggae-fan on July 26, 2015, 05:20:38 AM
reggae fan excuse my incourteous remark but i strongly believe that your team would be exposed by mexico today as a team that rode an incredible wave of luck all the way to the final, and i also believe that mexico will put on a show today against a team that has limited striking ability. please dont misunderstand me i believe you have a wonderful team with an iron clad defense but just like panama your offense is almost nonexistent and can't muster up no more than a goal or two at a time, and this i am afraid will not be sufficient to vanquish a team with the pedigree of a mexico who only gets better with time and as a tournament progresses.7 goals so far in the tournament, all within regulation play doesn't suggest a team that has a "non existent" offence. With that said, our games so far have all been built around keeping shape in defence and compact midfield...and that's what has kept us unbeaten to date, may not always look pretty, but winning a game by 1-0 margin is the same as winning it 6-0...a win is a win.
non the less i would be supporting you and hope that you could pull a rabbit out of a hat despite the rude uncanny remarks made by rudy austin last november in the caribbean cup where he acted like a total wanker. that really had me gast for a while.
Panama finished third place without winning a single game in regulation time. This is not a team that has limited striking ability, contrary I believe their problem is their inability to defend a lead. they have taken the lead in every single game, but end up conceding late.
I don't predict games..needless to say Mexico starts favorites...just like the USA did against us in the semis. looking bforward to seeing my team on the podium today...whatever the color of their medals, they have been fantastic through Copa America and the Gold Cup.
What did Austin say?
Post by: lefty on July 26, 2015, 07:50:40 AM
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Post by: Peong on July 26, 2015, 11:34:13 AM
The refs will probably shy away from giving Mexico a big decision.
Unless el Chapo gets to them.
Post by: Sando prince on July 26, 2015, 12:46:40 PM
Ah going to just sit back and watch this final. I want JA to win BUT as a Trini there is no incentive for me regardless who win. I just want to see an exciting clean game of football
Post by: reggae-fan on July 26, 2015, 01:58:40 PM
Ah going to just sit back and watch this final. I want JA to win BUT as a Trini there is no incentive for me regardless who win. I just want to see an exciting clean game of football
;D ;D
Come on fella, i know you secretly hoping mexico rest 6 on us. ;D ;D
Nuh true?
Post by: Thomo on July 26, 2015, 02:01:37 PM
Post by: kaliman2006 on July 26, 2015, 02:15:56 PM
I will take ten years of ole talk over El Tri winning this tournament in this disgraceful manner
Post by: MEP on July 26, 2015, 02:52:28 PM
Post by: OutsideMan on July 26, 2015, 02:54:22 PM
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Post by: kaliman2006 on July 26, 2015, 03:04:59 PM
so why can't you'll support Jamaica simply because we have more in common with them than we do with Mexico?????? Why must there be that predicated hint of insularity
You read way too much into what I posted.
That is all I will say on the matter
:beermug:
Post by: AB.Trini on July 26, 2015, 03:16:46 PM
:beermug: :frustrated: :beermug: :rotfl
Ah going to just sit back and watch this final. I want JA to win BUT as a Trini there is no incentive for me regardless who win. I just want to see an exciting clean game of football
;D ;D
Come on fella, i know you secretly hoping mexico rest 6 on us. ;D ;D
Nuh true?
Not to be original I quote Big Mag....... Out of respect I would not say it today but good luck to the boyz
Post by: Sando prince on July 26, 2015, 05:54:15 PM
Ah going to just sit back and watch this final. I want JA to win BUT as a Trini there is no incentive for me regardless who win. I just want to see an exciting clean game of football
;D ;D
Come on fella, i know you secretly hoping mexico rest 6 on us. ;D ;D
Nuh true?
That is your Anti-Trini vibes whispering in your ear. At the end of the day most people in Trinidad will not care who win this match. Red Steel playing today :D
Post by: Sando prince on July 26, 2015, 06:22:09 PM
BTW Trinidad and Tobago Red Steel new CPL Champions!! ;D :beermug:
Post by: Bitter on July 26, 2015, 06:52:10 PM
Jamaica start off hot and sweaty, but didn't get the goal. Now we waiting to see who getting the red card.
Post by: soccerman on July 26, 2015, 06:57:03 PM
Hell of a goal. Nice volley. At first I thought he missed it.Yes that goal was well executed.
Jamaica start off hot and sweaty, but didn't get the goal. Now we waiting to see who getting the red card.
Post by: AB.Trini on July 26, 2015, 07:03:46 PM
Look nah one thing we getting rid of is the mystic ofUSA and Mexico as infallible next we have to ' man ears' ja as the Caribbean bullies and handle we own business-
Post by: Bitter on July 26, 2015, 07:13:07 PM
Post by: kaliman2006 on July 26, 2015, 07:21:11 PM
Although Mexico is looking better in defense than against us
Post by: Peong on July 26, 2015, 07:25:24 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 26, 2015, 07:25:37 PM
Post by: Peong on July 26, 2015, 07:26:39 PM
Post by: OutsideMan on July 26, 2015, 07:28:00 PM
I'm rooting for JA in this match, but they have poor finishers.
Come-on, Jamaica!!
Post by: Socafan on July 26, 2015, 07:29:08 PM
Post by: pull stones on July 26, 2015, 07:31:49 PM
dat eh nutten, we were down 2-0 just after the half as well.dont be fooled. We scored 10 goals in four games while Jamaica scored 6 goals in five matches. I am puzzled as to where their goals is coming from.
Post by: royal on July 26, 2015, 07:32:19 PM
Post by: pull stones on July 26, 2015, 07:33:34 PM
Post by: pull stones on July 26, 2015, 07:34:52 PM
Post by: AB.Trini on July 26, 2015, 07:40:10 PM
Post by: Anbrat on July 26, 2015, 07:43:32 PM
Game set match.Final score?
Post by: kaliman2006 on July 26, 2015, 07:43:53 PM
Who ever thought Jamaica stood any chance vs Mexico was obviously sniffing paint.
We and all woulda probably be down by a similar scoreline.
Mexico is a different kettle of fish in a final than in a group match.
Post by: soccerman on July 26, 2015, 07:44:38 PM
Post by: Peong on July 26, 2015, 07:47:43 PM
Post by: OutsideMan on July 26, 2015, 07:51:44 PM
Mexico was handed the finals on a silver platter via a dubious penalty call in the Quarter Finals against Costa Rica, and then further dubious calls in the Semi-finals against Panama.
For all intents and purposes, Mexico should not have been Jamaica's opponent in this match.
Post by: kaliman2006 on July 26, 2015, 08:02:44 PM
:pissedoff:
Cheating should never be rewarded.
Congratulations to Jamaica on an excellent tournament.
Post by: OutsideMan on July 26, 2015, 08:04:02 PM
But even with this victory, I have absolutely no respect for Mexico on EARNING this trophy. Mexico played in a finals via corrupt means.
The gold trophy they will be given for this beautiful well-played victory, will be a gold trophy tarnished and stained.
Post by: Big Magician on July 26, 2015, 08:15:50 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 26, 2015, 08:17:33 PM
Post by: AB.Trini on July 26, 2015, 08:27:52 PM
If only the Jamaicans had played with pride.... ;D
Nah man IMHO dem boyz started with real pressure aganist Mexico but I eh know why the Caribbean teams cyar seem to sustain the pace of entral Americans and LatinAmerican teams?
Is it our style of play? Our system? Our conditioning? Whatever it is we need to find a way to keep climbing to the top . We are getting closer to demystifying USA and Mexico as the super powers of CONCACAF
Post by: pull stones on July 26, 2015, 08:28:49 PM
I am not happy the Mexicans wonthe Mexicans didn't cheat, the refs did.
:pissedoff:
Cheating should never be rewarded.
Congratulations to Jamaica on an excellent tournament.
Post by: Controversial on July 26, 2015, 08:36:10 PM
If only the Jamaicans had played with pride.... ;D
Take win oui :D :D
Post by: OutsideMan on July 26, 2015, 08:39:41 PM
I am not happy the Mexicans won
:pissedoff:
Cheating should never be rewarded.
Congratulations to Jamaica on an excellent tournament.
I'm forever Trini to de bone...but today I fully supported our Jamaican brethren against the THIEVERY and corruption in this tournament. :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Post by: Spursy on July 26, 2015, 09:18:53 PM
People forget that the best team can have bad days, unfair calls and get unlucky. it's all part of the game and how you deal with that will either reap fans or hate from supporters. What Panama did on and off the pitch was distasteful and it made our region look mediocre. Exposed us in a big way with international headlines for the wrong reasons. Panama for me has the team to be in the finals but not the discipline or the fan base to rival mexico or usa in terms of support.
Post by: injunchile on July 26, 2015, 09:31:25 PM
It makes T&T 4-4 draw a little more instructive going forward, hard luck Jamaica.
Post by: OutsideMan on July 26, 2015, 09:47:55 PM
JA football too boring for me to care or watch them play, too predictable and seldom ever gambles. Tnt always an unpredictable side that alone makes the team fun to watch, with JA expect to see no goals or 1 with 10 men behind the ball defending. I see some people are fixed on Mexico not earning the cup but they just won the final.
People forget that the best team can have bad days, unfair calls and get unlucky. it's all part of the game and how you deal with that will either reap fans or hate from supporters. What Panama did on and off the pitch was distasteful and it made our region look mediocre. Exposed us in a big way with international headlines for the wrong reasons. Panama for me has the team to be in the finals but not the discipline or the fan base to rival mexico or usa in terms of support.
I don't see anyone here is saying that Mexico didn't deserve to win the finals. But I do see people like myself who are saying that Mexico did not deserve TO BE in this particular finals.
Mexico is a very good team, which most will not dispute. However, this particular Gold Cup tournament was one that proved to be highly suspect with the officiating, and rather corrupt. The game-changing calls made in Mexico's favor in the Quarter-finals, and then in the Semi-finals were not just bad calls...they were blatantly deplorable. We have to face the fact that regional tournaments such as these are tied-in very much to TV ratings, corporate sponsors, and other monied interests. Having a Gold Cup finals between smaller-population states (Jamaica vs a Panama or a Costa Rica, for example), would not have been the ratings bonanza that tournament organizers would have been counting on.
This begs the question --- if down the road, a tiny population country like Grenada, by some miracle qualified for the GC and fielded a team that threatened to make it far in the GC during the knock-out phase....would the game be officiated FAIRLY if that particular match were close (tied, or with Grenada up 1-0), against a US or Mexico in the dying minutes of the game?
The blatant deplorable officiating in this tournament at important junctures in the matches, has taken away somewhat the credibility of this tournament.
After-all, would "Fox Sports" or major corporate sponsors benefit from say for example a "T&T vs Barbados" Gold Cup finals? Based on what we have witnessed here in 2015, if T&T and B'dos were leading in their respective knock-out matches in close games against any of the 3 major regional populous countries (USA, Mexico, Canada), I don't believe a T&T vs B'dos final would ever be allowed to happen.
Mexico definitely deserved to win today's final against JA --- this isn't in dispute. But Mexico did not deserve to even make it to this particular finals. Monied corporate interests decided on Mexico being in this finals.
When a tournament's credibility is dishonored and tarnished, everyone loses.
Post by: Controversial on July 26, 2015, 10:15:33 PM
JA football too boring for me to care or watch them play, too predictable and seldom ever gambles. Tnt always an unpredictable side that alone makes the team fun to watch, with JA expect to see no goals or 1 with 10 men behind the ball defending. I see some people are fixed on Mexico not earning the cup but they just won the final.
People forget that the best team can have bad days, unfair calls and get unlucky. it's all part of the game and how you deal with that will either reap fans or hate from supporters. What Panama did on and off the pitch was distasteful and it made our region look mediocre. Exposed us in a big way with international headlines for the wrong reasons. Panama for me has the team to be in the finals but not the discipline or the fan base to rival mexico or usa in terms of support.
I don't see anyone here is saying that Mexico didn't deserve to win the finals. But I do see people like myself who are saying that Mexico did not deserve TO BE in this particular finals.
Mexico is a very good team, which most will not dispute. However, this particular Gold Cup tournament was one that proved to be highly suspect with the officiating, and rather corrupt. The game-changing calls made in Mexico's favor in the Quarter-finals, and then in the Semi-finals were not just bad calls...they were blatantly deplorable. We have to face the fact that regional tournaments such as these are tied-in very much to TV ratings, corporate sponsors, and other monied interests. Having a Gold Cup finals between smaller-population states (Jamaica vs a Panama or a Costa Rica, for example), would not have been the ratings bonanza that tournament organizers would have been counting on.
This begs the question --- if down the road, a tiny population country like Grenada, by some miracle qualified for the GC and fielded a team that threatened to make it far in the GC during the knock-out phase....would the game be officiated FAIRLY if that particular match were close (tied, or with Grenada up 1-0), against a US or Mexico in the dying minutes of the game?
The blatant deplorable officiating in this tournament at important junctures in the matches, has taken away somewhat the credibility of this tournament.
After-all, would "Fox Sports" or major corporate sponsors benefit from say for example a "T&T vs Barbados" Gold Cup finals? Based on what we have witnessed here in 2015, if T&T and B'dos were leading in their respective knock-out matches in close games against any of the 3 major regional populous countries (USA, Mexico, Canada), I don't believe a T&T vs B'dos final would ever be allowed to happen.
Mexico definitely deserved to win today's final against JA --- this isn't in dispute. But Mexico did not deserve to even make it to this particular finals. Monied corporate interests decided on Mexico being in this finals.
When a tournament's credibility is dishonored and tarnished, everyone loses.
The officiating and financial obligations to sponsors and etc put a dark cloud over the tournament..
It almost seems like smaller nations need not apply when coming to these tournaments. I think the mentality needs to change of fans, if you love to see good football people should tune in, for years trini fans tuned into the WC to see other teams play and enjoyed it, and went to the tournament...
I believe we need more football fans, not that loving your nation is wrong but we need more fans willing to watch entertaining football in general.. Politics and money has destroyed the sport to a certain extent and it reared its ugly head in this tourney, sadly..
Post by: Deeks on July 26, 2015, 11:33:30 PM
Post by: Deeks on July 27, 2015, 03:52:50 AM
Post by: Peong on July 27, 2015, 12:46:05 PM
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/114/mexico/2015/07/27/13935132/report-miguel-herrera-punches-journalist-at-philadelphia?ICID=HP_BN_4
Post by: asylumseeker on July 27, 2015, 01:00:09 PM
Post by: asylumseeker on July 28, 2015, 01:44:06 AM
Post by: Tallman on July 28, 2015, 06:01:54 AM
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/andres-guardado-clint-dempsey-highlight-gold-cup-best-xi-072715
Post by: soccerman on July 28, 2015, 06:27:23 AM
Mexico and the US to face each other on October 9, 2015 at the Rose Bowl to determine CONCACAF's 2017 Confederations Cup representative.Home game fuh Mexico
Post by: Sando on July 28, 2015, 07:47:39 AM
Kenwyne Jones and Joevin Jones named to FOX Soccer’s Gold Cup Best XI
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/andres-guardado-clint-dempsey-highlight-gold-cup-best-xi-072715
PenedoLawrenceTorresMorganJ.JonesAustinBradleyDempseyGuardadoBarnesJonesNice team excpet for Barnes.
Post by: dreamer on July 28, 2015, 07:58:29 AM
makes his Gold Cup comeback in 2 years, to take the midfield slot. Big up.
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 28, 2015, 08:17:34 AM
Kenwyne Jones and Joevin Jones named to FOX Soccer’s Gold Cup Best XI
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/andres-guardado-clint-dempsey-highlight-gold-cup-best-xi-072715
Nice team excpet for Barnes.
I would replace Torres with Bateau. I think 2 goals in 4 games from a defender says a lot.
If Panama did not go to penalty shots, I would probably choose Placide over Penedo. Other than that, I think the list is accurate.
Post by: Deeks on July 28, 2015, 03:02:44 PM
Post by: Controversial on July 28, 2015, 03:13:32 PM
The headline say Herrera was fired by the Mex. Fed. For throwing the punch. Anyone can verify?
haven't seen anything..checking now
Post by: Controversial on July 28, 2015, 03:14:29 PM
The headline say Herrera was fired by the Mex. Fed. For throwing the punch. Anyone can verify?
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/28/mexico-coach-miguel-herrera-fired (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/28/mexico-coach-miguel-herrera-fired)
:o
Post by: OutsideMan on July 28, 2015, 04:36:28 PM
The headline say Herrera was fired by the Mex. Fed. For throwing the punch. Anyone can verify?
Yes, it's been verified:
http://www.espnfc.com/mexico/story/2539748/mexico-federation-sacks-miguel-herrera-after-alleged-brawl?ex_cid=espnFB
Post by: Peong on July 28, 2015, 07:31:47 PM
Post by: g on July 28, 2015, 07:59:33 PM
Next one to watch is Klinsmann, he on borrowed time too.
Post by: asylumseeker on July 28, 2015, 09:08:46 PM
What's clear is that their press conference indicates they are seizing the opportunity to rebuild and protect the brand/rebrand. A foreign coach is not off the table.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 29, 2015, 12:02:39 PM
Post by: Bitter on July 29, 2015, 12:07:06 PM
I expect madness and complaints about poor performances right up until they play the 1st game in the next world cup finals, then all of a sudden, a new Mexico will emerge and we'll be talking about how is bad luck they keep meeting some big team in the knockout phase
Post by: lefty on July 29, 2015, 12:14:06 PM
Bad time for Mexico to do this. Despite his "big" personality he has done well with Mexico. Remember how many coaches in a short space of time El Tri fired before his appointment. The players have openly endorsed him and enjoy playing for him. He brought back in fan favorites and created stability. Indeed they had an average showing at the GC with the exception of putting 6 past an undermanned Cuban outfit and beating Jamaica to win the title. Yet I can't see how this makes sense right now. They have 2 friendlies coming up before the Confed playoff against their arch nemesis in the region USA. Given that we played them the way we did in the GC they have to know that (even if they thought we did before) The Soca Warriors do not have any form of inferiority complex where they are concerned. So now insted of using the friendly to try out different things and maybe audition a few players, they now have to make sure to come out and try to win to restore the balance (as they see it). Awfully poor timing!
but....do they want to be seen as endorsing assault, I don't think a suspension and or fine would've mitigate that impression had they gone that route
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 29, 2015, 12:16:19 PM
Bad time for Mexico to do this. Despite his "big" personality he has done well with Mexico. Remember how many coaches in a short space of time El Tri fired before his appointment. The players have openly endorsed him and enjoy playing for him. He brought back in fan favorites and created stability. Indeed they had an average showing at the GC with the exception of putting 6 past an undermanned Cuban outfit and beating Jamaica to win the title. Yet I can't see how this makes sense right now. They have 2 friendlies coming up before the Confed playoff against their arch nemesis in the region USA. Given that we played them the way we did in the GC they have to know that (even if they thought we did before) The Soca Warriors do not have any form of inferiority complex where they are concerned. So now insted of using the friendly to try out different things and maybe audition a few players, they now have to make sure to come out and try to win to restore the balance (as they see it). Awfully poor timing!
but....do they want to be seen as endorsing assault, I don't think a suspension and or fine would've mitigate that impression had they gone that route
Is there footage where you actually see the assault? What I saw was very ambiguous and hard to make out where the assault occurred tbh.
Post by: lefty on July 29, 2015, 12:21:21 PM
yeah but the suspicion and attendant verdict in the court of public opinion already in d public domain......even if there was no assault or the circumstances exaggerated......it is being called assault.....so what then ???Bad time for Mexico to do this. Despite his "big" personality he has done well with Mexico. Remember how many coaches in a short space of time El Tri fired before his appointment. The players have openly endorsed him and enjoy playing for him. He brought back in fan favorites and created stability. Indeed they had an average showing at the GC with the exception of putting 6 past an undermanned Cuban outfit and beating Jamaica to win the title. Yet I can't see how this makes sense right now. They have 2 friendlies coming up before the Confed playoff against their arch nemesis in the region USA. Given that we played them the way we did in the GC they have to know that (even if they thought we did before) The Soca Warriors do not have any form of inferiority complex where they are concerned. So now insted of using the friendly to try out different things and maybe audition a few players, they now have to make sure to come out and try to win to restore the balance (as they see it). Awfully poor timing!
but....do they want to be seen as endorsing assault, I don't think a suspension and or fine would've mitigate that impression had they gone that route
Is there footage where you actually see the assault? What I saw was very ambiguous and hard to make out where the assault occurred tbh.
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 29, 2015, 12:49:29 PM
yeah but the suspicion and attendant verdict in the court of public opinion already in d public domain......even if there was no assault or the circumstances exaggerated......it is being called assault.....so what then ???Bad time for Mexico to do this. Despite his "big" personality he has done well with Mexico. Remember how many coaches in a short space of time El Tri fired before his appointment. The players have openly endorsed him and enjoy playing for him. He brought back in fan favorites and created stability. Indeed they had an average showing at the GC with the exception of putting 6 past an undermanned Cuban outfit and beating Jamaica to win the title. Yet I can't see how this makes sense right now. They have 2 friendlies coming up before the Confed playoff against their arch nemesis in the region USA. Given that we played them the way we did in the GC they have to know that (even if they thought we did before) The Soca Warriors do not have any form of inferiority complex where they are concerned. So now insted of using the friendly to try out different things and maybe audition a few players, they now have to make sure to come out and try to win to restore the balance (as they see it). Awfully poor timing!
but....do they want to be seen as endorsing assault, I don't think a suspension and or fine would've mitigate that impression had they gone that route
Is there footage where you actually see the assault? What I saw was very ambiguous and hard to make out where the assault occurred tbh.
What then? If there is no assault then no punishment! Reaction by the federation has to be based on and rooted in facts. Maybe I misunderstanding what you asking ???
Post by: lefty on July 29, 2015, 12:56:23 PM
Post by: Deeks on July 29, 2015, 12:59:08 PM
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on July 29, 2015, 01:11:36 PM
The Mex. tv keep showing a tape run in an airport and there is some commotion. But I too do not see any clear cut punch thrown by anyone. It just some commotion. Maybe there is another video with a much clearer picture.
My boy at work who is a Mexico fan saying the exact same thing. Up to now nothing eh suraface in the media showing clearly what occured. What he did say is dat Liga MX owners have a lot of say so when it come to federation business and they were not overly infatuated with him. So this may be more to do with them than coachman actually doing anything that warrants his removal. I called it from early on though, once they drew Guatemala, then the result with us I knew he was ah walking dead duck!
Post by: Peong on July 29, 2015, 02:40:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/sfiX0lQaaRg