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Tim Kee wants four more years.
By Sean Nero (Guardian).
...as he aims to continue TTFA strategic reform
Radical changes to the management of local football are underway says Raymond Tim Kee, president of the T&T Football Association (TTFA).
Even as his term of office comes to an end in June after four years in office, he has offered himself for re-election to the post, Tim Kee was talking tough on the issue of strategic reform.
He said gone were the days when practitioners were installed in key positions because they simply knew the sport. The TTFA head did not say if this was among the suite of constitutional reforms a special committee of the TTFA was presently reviewing.
In order for football in T&T to become a major revenue earner and as a consequence ensure the TTFA achieved self-sufficiency, he said, business professionals needed to be enlisted by the football body.
This said the TTFA head, was one sure way to win the confidence of the private sector about the tremendous returns to be had from this type of investment.
Speaking at the TTFA 2014 Awards held at the VIP Lounge of the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Woodbrook, Tim Kee said, “The TTFA is undergoing change management exercises which seems go against the thread of what has become habit or natural, as you would say, because our focus is a new one and a different one. Our focus is on good governance with emphasis on transparency and accountability. And as time progresses, we are going to see emerging some new faces, some different faces, many of whom may not have ever played football; probably never bounced a ball.”
He added, “I came out of the business sector and I recognised by looking and observing that football is a product. But the people who market and sell products are the business people, not practitioners in the craft that produce the product. So Mr Hart (Stephen) and his team and other members of the technical staff, it is their business to produce the product on the field and they are accountable to those who sit, not in their ivory towers, but those fairly comfortable rooms–air conditioned rooms–who at times would complain of heat because of challenges. So, we expect a different product. We expect a different behaviour. We expect different norms. Football as anything else depends on economics.”
Turning his attention to the development of the sport, Tim Kee cited the level of capital that went local governing bodies for the sport in Concacaf.
While the Mexican Football Association had an annual budget of US$100 million, he said, the United States Football Association got an allocation of US$75 million.
“You know what our own is? Five million and we struggle to make it. And yet, we go out and produce a quality of that product that is comparable to some of those other countries who are better endowed financially and who enjoy the financial support from so many different corporate citizens,” he said.
Tim Kee added, “So when people say that ‘God is a Trini’, I am inclined to believe that sometimes, because against all odds, we still prevail and not only prevail, prevail with distinction. Our commitment is that qualifying for World Cup would not be a flash-in-the-pan anymore. We intend to pursue qualification for World cup from 2018 onwards.”
(http://www.guardian.co.tt/sites/default/files/field/image/Untitled-12_5.jpg)
Former T&T and West Indies cricketer Deryck Murray, left, accepts a TTFA insignia from the organisation’s president Raymond Tim Kee. PHOTO: SEAN NERO
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He added, I came out of the business sector and I recognised by looking and observing that football is a product. But the people who market and sell products are the business people, not practitioners in the craft that produce the product. So Mr Hart (Stephen) and his team and other members of the technical staff, it is their business to produce the product on the field and they are accountable to those who sit, not in their ivory towers, but those fairly comfortable rooms air conditioned rooms who at times would complain of heat because of challenges. So, we expect a different product. We expect a different behaviour. We expect different norms. Football as anything else depends on economics.
How can they expect Hart to produce anything when the tools are not given to him or any other T&T coach, isn't this a double edge sword? I find Tim Kee very disrespecful here.
The way Tim Kee talks really invites trouble and none support, no wonder no one wants to support T&T football.
I hope someone else goes up for T&T president, maybe David John Williams or some other person who have good buniess knowledge and loves the game.
Jeffrey Webb is arrested, lets see who the TTFA will cling on to now.
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Tim Kee wants four more years.
By Sean Nero (Guardian).
...as he aims to continue TTFA strategic reform
Radical changes to the management of local football are underway says Raymond Tim Kee, president of the T&T Football Association (TTFA).
Even as his term of office comes to an end in June after four years in office, he has offered himself for re-election to the post, Tim Kee was talking tough on the issue of strategic reform.
He said gone were the days when practitioners were installed in key positions because they simply knew the sport. The TTFA head did not say if this was among the suite of constitutional reforms a special committee of the TTFA was presently reviewing.
In order for football in T&T to become a major revenue earner and as a consequence ensure the TTFA achieved self-sufficiency, he said, business professionals needed to be enlisted by the football body.
This said the TTFA head, was one sure way to win the confidence of the private sector about the tremendous returns to be had from this type of investment.
Speaking at the TTFA 2014 Awards held at the VIP Lounge of the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Woodbrook, Tim Kee said, “The TTFA is undergoing change management exercises which seems go against the thread of what has become habit or natural, as you would say, because our focus is a new one and a different one. Our focus is on good governance with emphasis on transparency and accountability. And as time progresses, we are going to see emerging some new faces, some different faces, many of whom may not have ever played football; probably never bounced a ball.”
He added, “I came out of the business sector and I recognised by looking and observing that football is a product. But the people who market and sell products are the business people, not practitioners in the craft that produce the product. So Mr Hart (Stephen) and his team and other members of the technical staff, it is their business to produce the product on the field and they are accountable to those who sit, not in their ivory towers, but those fairly comfortable rooms–air conditioned rooms–who at times would complain of heat because of challenges. So, we expect a different product. We expect a different behaviour. We expect different norms. Football as anything else depends on economics.”
Turning his attention to the development of the sport, Tim Kee cited the level of capital that went local governing bodies for the sport in Concacaf.
While the Mexican Football Association had an annual budget of US$100 million, he said, the United States Football Association got an allocation of US$75 million.
“You know what our own is? Five million and we struggle to make it. And yet, we go out and produce a quality of that product that is comparable to some of those other countries who are better endowed financially and who enjoy the financial support from so many different corporate citizens,” he said.
Tim Kee added, “So when people say that ‘God is a Trini’, I am inclined to believe that sometimes, because against all odds, we still prevail and not only prevail, prevail with distinction. Our commitment is that qualifying for World Cup would not be a flash-in-the-pan anymore. We intend to pursue qualification for World cup from 2018 onwards.”
(http://www.guardian.co.tt/sites/default/files/field/image/Untitled-12_5.jpg)
Former T&T and West Indies cricketer Deryck Murray, left, accepts a TTFA insignia from the organisation’s president Raymond Tim Kee. PHOTO: SEAN NERO
Four more years to do what... Play de ass.. Rundown our football more.. I'm sorry but sancho is acting equally as bad...
I hope all of them disappear because it will be better for our football... The only thing Tim kee right about is that the other nations are better funded but that's because football is run well and actually run like a business..
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I tell alyuh Tim Kee is a real tool. He is so detached from reality it not funny.
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I tell alyuh Tim Kee is a real tool. He is so detached from reality it not funny.
Sancho in the same boat fellah, and they both sinking fast...
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You f00cking kidding me.
Somebody need to kick this f00cker out of T&T football like FIFA did to Warner.
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You f00cking kidding me.
Somebody need to kick this f00cker out of T&T football like FIFA did to Warner.
On behalf of Weary, I say ... Cosign. :rotfl: sorry Weary.
Uncle Tim, careful with traveling abroad from now on.
Yuh li'l friends with whom yuh does lash some good gin and coconut water .... well, dey have some unexpected news for you. Yuh drinkin' padnah Webbolito and uncle Renraw eh have you to study or protect right now as dey very very busy and cyah answer email or text.
All de best.
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Stephen Hart need to set this f00cker straight once and for all and stop hiding in de corner while getting blast in public.
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I tell alyuh Tim Kee is a real tool. He is so detached from reality it not funny.
Sancho in the same boat fellah, and they both sinking fast...
Sancho had/has a club that providing development for our players.
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So I take it elections is the end of June then?
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So I take it elections is the end of June then?
I want to see who go run, ah hope we get some decent honest people.
Who controlling de votes?
Who incharge of de zones fellas?
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Radical changes to the management of local football are underway says Raymond Tim Kee.
Start cleaning out your home by firing yourself first Mr President.
Charity begins at home.
This guy is another Jack Warner, he doesn't want to leave and will leave T&T in the same state he got it.
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Kelvin, time to make your move.
But first I want to hear you say: " I pledge to distance myself COMPLETELY from the nefarious activities of Jackulito, Scampito, Rodent and by extension Uncle Tim and his entourage". "I promise to serve the TTFA, T&T, the current, future and past socawarriors and the football loving public with integrity, honour and do ALL I can to regain trust and do all I can to right the wrongs of Renraw no matter how politically inconvenient it is, so help me God".
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I'll bet Tim Kee runs unopposed... should they not give a mandatory 3 month notice that the vote will be this day this month this year so interested parties can put together their campaign?
It all seems geared towards a snap announcement and no time for interested parties to put things in place.
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I'll bet Tim Kee runs unopposed... should they not give a mandatory 3 month notice that the vote will be this day this month this year so interested parties can put together their campaign?
It all seems geared towards a snap announcement and no time for interested parties to put things in place.
Tim Kee has no control over when the elections will be called... that's an ExCo decision. Even that decision is held up by them taking dey time finalizing the constitutional reforms. But bless allyuh heart, is Tim Kee calling all de shots.
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I'll bet Tim Kee runs unopposed... should they not give a mandatory 3 month notice that the vote will be this day this month this year so interested parties can put together their campaign?
It all seems geared towards a snap announcement and no time for interested parties to put things in place.
Tim Kee has no control over when the elections will be called... that's an ExCo decision. Even that decision is held up by them taking dey time finalizing the constitutional reforms. But bless allyuh heart, is Tim Kee calling all de shots.
Ok thanks for clearing that up but my point is still valid.... I hope the date of the election is a fixed date 2-3 months after the announcement to allow interested parties time to build their campaign and put together their plans etc.
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Ok thanks for clearing that up but my point is still valid.... I hope the date of the election is a fixed date 2-3 months after the announcement to allow interested parties time to build their campaign and put together their plans etc.
The elections were scheduled for next month (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/TTFA-elections-postponed-279996172.html), per FIFA. Again, however, all of that is contingent on the ExCo finishing up ratification of the reforms, since (again per FIFA) it makes no sense to hold new elections under outmoded bylaws and processes.
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Tim Kee concerned for Caribbean football.
By Ian Prescott (Express).
Caught off guard
Trinidad and Tobago Football Association president Raymond Tim Kee awoke in Zurich, Switzerland, in the wee hours of yesterday morning to the news that some of his CONCACAF colleagues, including president Jeffrey Webb, had been arrested on racketeering, conspiracy and corruption charges.
Following United States Government indictments, Swiss police made dawn raids at the Baur au Lac hotel in Zurich, where Fifa officials are staying ahead of Friday's FIFA presidential election. Tim Kee, president of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association and a sitting member of two FIFA committees was staying at the CONCACAF Hotel in Zurich.
Yesterday, former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner was also arrested in Port of Spain on similar charges, and was up to press-time fighting to secure bail in the amount of $2.5 million. A day before, Tim Kee was at the Baur au Lac hotel having discussions with the Prince of Jordan, a country Trinidad and Tobago will play next month in a friendly international.
"My reaction was one of shock and surprise about how it came about," Tim Kee said of the action in Zurich. "To be awakened at 2 a.m. and told that police had taken some of our people. But, it was not unexpected, because we knew that investigations were ongoing."
Following yesterday's events, Tim Kee reported that tomorrow's election in which incumbent Sepp Blatter - is seeking another term as head of the governing body for world football - will proceed. But he has a gut feeling that yesterday's events might affect the outcome of the contest between Blatter and underdog Prince Ali bin al-Hussein of Jordan. Concerning CONCACAF and the Caribbean, Tim Kee said he will watch proceedings closely.
"Trinidad and Tobago is not affected in terms of our participation in the Gold Cup or anything so, but with indictments brought against the president, it will be interesting to see how the Caribbean will be affected and the kind of treatment the Caribbean is given, if there were to be changes at the helm (of CONCACAF)," Tim Kee added.
Yesterday, the TTFA issued a statement expressing its concern at the turn of events.
"The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) is observing, with concern, the events that took place this morning in Zurich, Switzerland. We acknowledge this investigation and hope it will lead to improved governance in the world's most popular sport of which our organisation is actively involved.
The TTFA will give this ongoing investigation the respect it deserves and, as a result, will refrain from making further statements on the ongoing investigation at this time."
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Tim Kee stunned by FIFA officials’ arrest
T&T Newsday Reports.
PRESIDENT OF the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA), Raymond Tim Kee, has expressed his surprise over yesterday morning’s arrests of a number of FIFA officials, including Concacaf president Jeffrey Webb, by Switzerland law enforcement personnel, and the indictment of former football honcho Jack Warner by the United States Department of Justice.
The US Department of Justice yesterday revealed a 47-count indictment against the officials, alleging an elaborate 24-year scheme involving racketeering, wire fraud and money laundering conspiracies.
Tim Kee and Webb were in Zurich, Switzerland ahead of tomorrow’s FIFA presidential elections.
In a radio interview yesterday (Power 102 FM), Tim Kee, who has been the TTFA boss since November 2012, said, “one thing I can say is that those legal folks have been quite professional, and there is nothing to suggest that anything was happening.”
Tim Kee, who is also the Mayor of Port-of-Spain and a Guardian Life insurance executive, continued, “that was kept extremely quiet and private. So there was no expectation. Everybody was found in a state of shock.
The TTFA president admitted, “(on Tuesday) night I was talking to the president of Concacaf, and some of his vice-presidents. There was nothing in their demeanour or what was said to suggest any feeling or suspicion that something was in the making.”
Warner served as Concacaf and CFU (Caribbean Football Union) president, and FIFA vice-president, for 21 years, as well as special adviser of the then TTFF (Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation) until he left his football positions in June 20 2011, in the wake of a FIFA corruption investigation.
Meanwhile, the TTFA will be staying silent, with regards to any public pronouncements, on the latest controversy to hit FIFA.
“We acknowledge this investigation and hope it will lead to improved governance in the world’s most popular sport of which our organisation is actively involved,” said the TTFA in a media release.
“The TTFA will give this ongoing investigation the respect it deserves and, as a result, will refrain from making further statements on the ongoing investigation at this time.”
The TTFA, according to the media release, “wishes to reiterate that it is currently involved in a process of reforming and re-organising its governance, organisational structures, and practices in striving to meet ever-increasing expectations of transparency, accountability and performance from a wide range of stakeholders.”
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Tim Kee should state who the TTFF is voting for tomorrow just like the US. Everything always in secret
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Tim Kee should state who the TTFF is voting for tomorrow just like the US. Everything always in secret
Don't we have a game against Jordan coming up? Where Sepp challenger from? Then again England bring a squad to play us in the Stadium and Jack never give them a vote as far as we can tell.
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I hope this does not happen.
Tim Kee is not good.
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Tim Kee should state who the TTFF is voting for tomorrow just like the US. Everything always in secret
Posted this in another thread, but it's pretty clear who he's supporting:
Blatter received pledges of support from 10 federations as his bid for a fifth term as the head of the governing body gathers pace, with Trinidad and Tobago FA chief Raymond Tim Kee also praising him as the "father of football".
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9809090/sepp-blatter-likened-to-mandela-at-concacaf-congress
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Interesting. I understand otherwise... So either the sources are incorrect or Tim Kee is playing both sides/talking out of the two sides of his mouth.
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Interesting. I understand otherwise... So either the sources are incorrect or Tim Kee is playing both sides/talking out of the two sides of his mouth.
Sounds plausible. There's definitely some kind of power move happening between the CFU / Blatter given the latter is making promises for WC spots to the region (which suggests perhaps his votes aren't quite as locked up as we may be expecting).
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Tim Kee should state who the TTFF is voting for tomorrow just like the US. Everything always in secret
Posted this in another thread, but it's pretty clear who he's supporting:
Blatter received pledges of support from 10 federations as his bid for a fifth term as the head of the governing body gathers pace, with Trinidad and Tobago FA chief Raymond Tim Kee also praising him as the "father of football".
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9809090/sepp-blatter-likened-to-mandela-at-concacaf-congress
:rotfl: Sounds more like a cult or like when North Koreans fall over themselves to heap the biggest praise on the dear leader.
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:rotfl: Sounds more like a cult or like when North Koreans fall over themselves to heap the biggest praise on the dear leader.
It's eerily similar to what (some) people in Chaguanas East are saying about Warner today - about the same amount of rhetoric. The way Jack deals with his constituents is really no different to how Blatter treats the small countries in FIFA.
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:rotfl: Sounds more like a cult or like when North Koreans fall over themselves to heap the biggest praise on the dear leader.
It's eerily similar to what (some) people in Chaguanas East are saying about Warner today - about the same amount of rhetoric. The way Jack deals with his constituents is really no different to how Blatter treats the small countries in FIFA.
For real. Spot on.
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will anti Blatter countries form their own union after he wins today?
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:rotfl: Sounds more like a cult or like when North Koreans fall over themselves to heap the biggest praise on the dear leader.
It's eerily similar to what (some) people in Chaguanas East are saying about Warner today - about the same amount of rhetoric. The way Jack deals with his constituents is really no different to how Blatter treats the small countries in FIFA.
For real. Spot on.
Well they both studied at the foot of João Havelange.
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Crooks to the max. Webbolito and Uncle Tim. Could be Jackulito's own sons de way they does move.
Cut from the exact same cloth. One day Uncle Tim will have to reveal where all that money went. There is a strong feeling that that day is going to be much sooner than originally thought as everybody will be forced to save they own behind and t'row dey gin-and-tonic-lashin' buddies under de bus. A treasure trove of stuff was also obtained from Concacaf offices too. Btw, careful how yuh spell dah word: (CONCACAF vs Concacaf) especially when yuh dealin' with Jackulito and Uncle Tim and which corresponding bank account yuh focusing on. Stay tuned people. Horner yuh dey? Any comment from Cornmeal?
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Tim Kee defends Warner’s CONCACAF tenure
By JONATHAN RAMNANANSINGH (Newsday)
President of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA), Raymond Tim Kee, has defended former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner for standing up for this nation’s football interests during his tenure as both CONCACAF and Caribbean Football Union (CFU) president.
Tim Kee, who returned from representing the TTFA at the world governing body’s elections in Zurich, Switzerland, on Saturday night, believes Warner was a major voice pushing for TT’s football development on both the regional and international stage during his reign. However, when Jeffrey Webb of the Cayman Islands was appointed president of CONCACAF in 2012, things changed, and TT’s affairs were put on the bench by the provisionally sacked CONCACAF boss.
“Remember when Mr Warner was president of CONCACAF and CFU, he was very much inward thinking in terms of what Trinidad is getting into,” said Tim Kee yesterday. “Warner worked so hard to the point where our funny kind of thinking people felt that he was pulling strings for Trinidad’s benefit. All the rumours about Warner setting up matches for Trinidad to win and other ideas of the sort all of a sudden began to circulate.
“However, what Mr Warner was really doing was looking after Trinidad and trying to put Trinidad and Tobago in a position to have an equal chance because he would have known of course (about) where he sat, how many things were available and how many were not. Everything came and happened and he was then replaced by another Caribbean man, Jeffrey Webb,” Tim Kee added.
It was here, according to the TTFA boss, that Webb then began to redirect his attention toward more development in Jamaica and the Cayman Islands. Tim Kee said when he realised this country was not given any priority, he challenged the decisions being made but was told that “Trinidad must breathe a little.”
“It was not as equitable as it could have been (for TT). But the others (governing bodies) who were given opportunities to breathe, were not in a position to breathe either because they did not have any actual resource.
What I realised is that we were not getting a fair break as we would have liked for Trinidad,” he continued.
Now, with both Warner and Webb removed from their respective capacities in regional football and currently under investigation for racketeering and money laundering by the United States Department of Justice, Tim Kee is hoping to once again bring the Caribbean nations together in an effort to return transparency and strong sport development to the region. Following his vote in Zurich on Friday, Tim Kee conversed with several of the region’s association presidents with the intention of strengthening their voice on a global scale.
He also warned that the US, along with Central America, have been trying from behind the scenes to control CONCACAF. But, Tim Kee is intent on ensuring that his and the Caribbean’s voice are constantly heard. The Port-of-Spain mayor admitted however, that wooing the other regional territories to one sound conclusion might be a bit tougher than expected.
He further explained: “The position is that I’ve had some conversations with some president’s (football bodies) from the Caribbean.
I told them what my picture is of the situation and that we need to get our act together and so on. But you see a lot of them are intimidated because they got a lot of, what they consider favours and therefore they don’t want to rock the boat. And to a large extent not only in the Caribbean, but as well as the American and African continents.”
Speaking in relation to Blatter’s re-election for a fifth consecutive term, Tim Kee declared that the audience of Hallenstadion, Zurich, went silent upon hearing Prince Ali’s withdrawal from the second round of voting at the elections after being behind 133-72 in the initial round.
“You could have felt a sense of sadness (when Ali withdrew). Those who supported the incumbent (Blatter) were in glee. But you would have looked around the room at the 209 countries, each of which was represented by three delegates, and of course maybe about 100 observers, you would have sensed some form of quiet and sadness. It was then that I had a little bit of concern.. Ali and I have a good relationship and he calls me often. I was unable to speak to him after the elections, but I might speak with him tonight (Sunday). If there was some other candidate, or rather if Mr Blatter was not there, I’m sure Prince Ali would have won because nobody could have faulted him for his presentation and constitution,” he added.
Meanwhile, amidst all the allegations put forward against multiple ex and current members of FIFA last week, Blatter maintains his innocence and admitted that the cleanup of FIFA is good for the game. When asked how Blatter could have pleaded ignorance of the alleged corruption taking place in his organisation, Tim Kee declared: “If the top US and Swiss agencies working together, and they have been digging up for the past 20 years, have found nothing, possibly, there is nothing to be found but I do not want be conclusive and unfair to Mr Blatter. But how so many calls and comments could be made and there’s no truth? You have to sometimes consider the saying ‘where there is smoke, there is fire’. So how is there so much smoke, but no fire?”
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While there is truth that Jack did work for TT "interest" when he was FIFA VP, why in the long run when he was kicked out, we found ourselves in gigantic hole of debt. Even you, an insurance executive, can't use your business acumen to get us out of this mess. You also saying you tying to get the CFU to speak with one voice. No Trini will ever get that opportunity again. Dupree messed up and Jack mucho Messed up. You think they will allow another Trini take the lead. What have you done for TT football for the past two years.
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Yes Uncle Tim. Tell us more about these deeply patriotic thoughts that you have, that dispel the myth of your mooksy, silent, I-eh-talking character.
It took this crisis and a possible existential threat to you and your people, for you to open your damn mouth, speak up when interviewed and allow us to hear about your profound policy positions. Tink it easy with dese fellahs?
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Both ah allyuh miss the point Tim Kee was trying to make... perhaps because he didn't go into great detail how much Webb was starving TnT. Case in point, the TTFA yet to receive their share of this year's broadcast rights appropriation from CONCACAF. Why?
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Both ah allyuh miss the point Tim Kee was trying to make... perhaps because he didn't go into great detail how much Webb was starving TnT. Case in point, the TTFA yet to receive their share of this year's broadcast rights appropriation from CONCACAF. Why?
He did not go into details, but you can.
Cursory search of google right?
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Watch something we will wake up one morning in the not to distant future and see Tim Kee re-elected. :devil:
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De only four years Tim Kee should get is in Golden Grove next to Warner.
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Tim Kee defends Warners CONCACAF tenure
By JONATHAN RAMNANANSINGH (Newsday)
President of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA), Raymond Tim Kee, has defended former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner for standing up for this nations football interests during his tenure as both CONCACAF and Caribbean Football Union (CFU) president.
Tim Kee, who returned from representing the TTFA at the world governing bodys elections in Zurich, Switzerland, on Saturday night, believes Warner was a major voice pushing for TTs football development on both the regional and international stage during his reign. However, when Jeffrey Webb of the Cayman Islands was appointed president of CONCACAF in 2012, things changed, and TTs affairs were put on the bench by the provisionally sacked CONCACAF boss.
Remember when Mr Warner was president of CONCACAF and CFU, he was very much inward thinking in terms of what Trinidad is getting into, said Tim Kee yesterday. Warner worked so hard to the point where our funny kind of thinking people felt that he was pulling strings for Trinidads benefit. All the rumours about Warner setting up matches for Trinidad to win and other ideas of the sort all of a sudden began to circulate.
However, what Mr Warner was really doing was looking after Trinidad and trying to put Trinidad and Tobago in a position to have an equal chance because he would have known of course (about) where he sat, how many things were available and how many were not. Everything came and happened and he was then replaced by another Caribbean man, Jeffrey Webb, Tim Kee added.
It was here, according to the TTFA boss, that Webb then began to redirect his attention toward more development in Jamaica and the Cayman Islands. Tim Kee said when he realised this country was not given any priority, he challenged the decisions being made but was told that Trinidad must breathe a little.
It was not as equitable as it could have been (for TT). But the others (governing bodies) who were given opportunities to breathe, were not in a position to breathe either because they did not have any actual resource.
What I realised is that we were not getting a fair break as we would have liked for Trinidad, he continued.
Now, with both Warner and Webb removed from their respective capacities in regional football and currently under investigation for racketeering and money laundering by the United States Department of Justice, Tim Kee is hoping to once again bring the Caribbean nations together in an effort to return transparency and strong sport development to the region. Following his vote in Zurich on Friday, Tim Kee conversed with several of the regions association presidents with the intention of strengthening their voice on a global scale.
He also warned that the US, along with Central America, have been trying from behind the scenes to control CONCACAF. But, Tim Kee is intent on ensuring that his and the Caribbeans voice are constantly heard. The Port-of-Spain mayor admitted however, that wooing the other regional territories to one sound conclusion might be a bit tougher than expected.
He further explained: The position is that Ive had some conversations with some presidents (football bodies) from the Caribbean.
I told them what my picture is of the situation and that we need to get our act together and so on. But you see a lot of them are intimidated because they got a lot of, what they consider favours and therefore they dont want to rock the boat. And to a large extent not only in the Caribbean, but as well as the American and African continents.
Speaking in relation to Blatters re-election for a fifth consecutive term, Tim Kee declared that the audience of Hallenstadion, Zurich, went silent upon hearing Prince Alis withdrawal from the second round of voting at the elections after being behind 133-72 in the initial round.
You could have felt a sense of sadness (when Ali withdrew). Those who supported the incumbent (Blatter) were in glee. But you would have looked around the room at the 209 countries, each of which was represented by three delegates, and of course maybe about 100 observers, you would have sensed some form of quiet and sadness. It was then that I had a little bit of concern.. Ali and I have a good relationship and he calls me often. I was unable to speak to him after the elections, but I might speak with him tonight (Sunday). If there was some other candidate, or rather if Mr Blatter was not there, Im sure Prince Ali would have won because nobody could have faulted him for his presentation and constitution, he added.
Meanwhile, amidst all the allegations put forward against multiple ex and current members of FIFA last week, Blatter maintains his innocence and admitted that the cleanup of FIFA is good for the game. When asked how Blatter could have pleaded ignorance of the alleged corruption taking place in his organisation, Tim Kee declared: If the top US and Swiss agencies working together, and they have been digging up for the past 20 years, have found nothing, possibly, there is nothing to be found but I do not want be conclusive and unfair to Mr Blatter. But how so many calls and comments could be made and theres no truth? You have to sometimes consider the saying where there is smoke, there is fire. So how is there so much smoke, but no fire?
No one should give special treatment to one particular federation, but Tim kee sounding like Jack didn't do the same?
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Tim Tee sounding just like Jack. Paranoid and delusional. Sounds like he crowned himself leader of CONCACAF on a sneek tip. But anyways, now I understand why Tim Tee and the spiderman didn't want to go after Jack, legally.
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I warned people about Tim kee but no one listened....
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Tim Tee sounding just like Jack. Paranoid and delusional. Sounds like he crowned himself leader of CONCACAF on a sneek tip. But anyways, now I understand why Tim Tee and the spiderman didn't want to go after Jack, legally.
Tell us why then? Because yuh talking shit.
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I warned people about Tim kee but no one listened....
He seems like he's cut from the same cloth as Jack. It also seems like he's doing some power positioning either within Concacaf or for FIFA itself, trying to stay on the fence. The fact that he only released that he didn't vote for Blatter after he resigned is a pretty clear indication of his capability of spotting which bandwagon to jump on at which time.
I really cannot see myself contributing a cent to another TTFA effort for the foreseeable future.
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De only four years Tim Kee should get is in Golden Grove next to Warner.
:rotfl:
Btw we've heard the agonizing babble & dance from Papa Cornmeal in his recent article.
Anybody heard from "President" in defense of Jackulito ... and all the others who were on the take from Renraw?
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I warned people about Tim kee but no one listened....
He seems like he's cut from the same cloth as Jack. It also seems like he's doing some power positioning either within Concacaf or for FIFA itself, trying to stay on the fence. The fact that he only released that he didn't vote for Blatter after he resigned is a pretty clear indication of his capability of spotting which bandwagon to jump on at which time.
I really cannot see myself contributing a cent to another TTFA effort for the foreseeable future.
My suggestion of a rival federation would work but will take time... The players union must be formed first to neutralize the pro league and tim kee run federation ... Once that is achieved, then a new fed will have the power and force the regional associations to make the switch.. No players, no football.. Ttfa will be relegated to a rogue org and Fifa will have no choice but to move to legitimize the new fed...
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Tim Kee calls for Caribbean unity in CONCACAF.
By Ian Prescott (Express).
Stand up!
Caribbean football officials are not pleased about being left out of the decision-making process of the Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football (CONCACAF).
Further, Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president Raymond Tim Kee, urged his colleagues to “stand up” and assert its power as the most influential group of voters in the regional football body. Tim Kee commented at a press conference held in Trinidad and Tobago on Tuesday.
Tim Kee is particularly perturbed that the Caribbean was left out of the decision-making process when a week ago, CONCACAF’S Executive appointed a Special Committee charged with evaluating and sustaining all of the business operations of the Confederation. This Special Committee was appointed in the wake of the corruption indictments brought against former CONCACAF president Jack Warner and Warner’s replacement Cayman Islands banker Jeffrey Webb.
The Special Committee appointed to run the 41-strong CONCACAF federation consists only of the three North Americans representatives. Appointed were Victor Montagliani, the president of the Canadian Soccer Association, Justino Compean, the president of the Mexican Soccer Federation and Sunil Gulati, the president of US Soccer Federation. The Caribbean has a majority of 28 countries in CONCACAF.
“They have appointed an Emergency Committee to look after the business of CONCACAF until the term comes to an end,” Tim Kee declared. “The thing that stood out for me, is that not one member of the CFU (Caribbean Football Union), who has the largest compliment of votes in CONCACAF, was sitting on that.”
Tim Kee is unaware if there was consultation between the CONCACAF Executive Committee and CFU president Antiguan Gordon Derrick, before recent decisions were made.
Further, Tim Kee hinted that Derrick should have objected had any such consultation taken place. “As to whether there were any objections, it is reasonable to argue there would have been the inclusion of somebody from the Caribbean (as a result). That did not happen, and that may be the style of the president of the CFU (Derrick), who may have opted to take a certain direction.
“But, at the end of the day, I don’t know if that is something we want, and we have to correct that,” the Trinidadian insurance executive and Port of Spain mayor said.
Tim Kee admitted to having spoken to some Caribbean colleagues on the matter.
“I have had conversions with some presidents of the other islands in the CFU about that situation and that is something we should seek to address,” he added.
Tim Kee said that, traditionally, the US and Mexico try to dominate CONCACAF because of financial and political influence, but at the end of the day, Caribbean votes will determine who takes power.
He further said that he expected challenges for the Caribbean, now that Caribbean representatives Warner and Webb are removed from the helm. “Now that both parties are out, and the Caribbean not represented, I suspect there will be some challenges coming to the Caribbean until we stand up and insist that must not happen because we have numbers,” said Tim Kee.
“The thing that carries you in football is numbers, not necessarily money, because numbers are votes,” added Tim Kee. “I can see some turbulence initially, but things will soon smooth out in a real way by (the Caribbean) having a voice on the Executive of CONCACAF,” he ended.
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Tim Kee defends Warners CONCACAF tenure
By JONATHAN RAMNANANSINGH (Newsday)
President of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA), Raymond Tim Kee, has defended former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner for standing up for this nations football interests during his tenure as both CONCACAF and Caribbean Football Union (CFU) president.
Tim Kee, who returned from representing the TTFA at the world governing bodys elections in Zurich, Switzerland, on Saturday night, believes Warner was a major voice pushing for TTs football development on both the regional and international stage during his reign. However, when Jeffrey Webb of the Cayman Islands was appointed president of CONCACAF in 2012, things changed, and TTs affairs were put on the bench by the provisionally sacked CONCACAF boss.
Remember when Mr Warner was president of CONCACAF and CFU, he was very much inward thinking in terms of what Trinidad is getting into, said Tim Kee yesterday. Warner worked so hard to the point where our funny kind of thinking people felt that he was pulling strings for Trinidads benefit. All the rumours about Warner setting up matches for Trinidad to win and other ideas of the sort all of a sudden began to circulate.
However, what Mr Warner was really doing was looking after Trinidad and trying to put Trinidad and Tobago in a position to have an equal chance because he would have known of course (about) where he sat, how many things were available and how many were not. Everything came and happened and he was then replaced by another Caribbean man, Jeffrey Webb, Tim Kee added.
It was here, according to the TTFA boss, that Webb then began to redirect his attention toward more development in Jamaica and the Cayman Islands. Tim Kee said when he realised this country was not given any priority, he challenged the decisions being made but was told that Trinidad must breathe a little.
It was not as equitable as it could have been (for TT). But the others (governing bodies) who were given opportunities to breathe, were not in a position to breathe either because they did not have any actual resource.
What I realised is that we were not getting a fair break as we would have liked for Trinidad, he continued.
Now, with both Warner and Webb removed from their respective capacities in regional football and currently under investigation for racketeering and money laundering by the United States Department of Justice, Tim Kee is hoping to once again bring the Caribbean nations together in an effort to return transparency and strong sport development to the region. Following his vote in Zurich on Friday, Tim Kee conversed with several of the regions association presidents with the intention of strengthening their voice on a global scale.
He also warned that the US, along with Central America, have been trying from behind the scenes to control CONCACAF. But, Tim Kee is intent on ensuring that his and the Caribbeans voice are constantly heard. The Port-of-Spain mayor admitted however, that wooing the other regional territories to one sound conclusion might be a bit tougher than expected.
He further explained: The position is that Ive had some conversations with some presidents (football bodies) from the Caribbean.
I told them what my picture is of the situation and that we need to get our act together and so on. But you see a lot of them are intimidated because they got a lot of, what they consider favours and therefore they dont want to rock the boat. And to a large extent not only in the Caribbean, but as well as the American and African continents.
Speaking in relation to Blatters re-election for a fifth consecutive term, Tim Kee declared that the audience of Hallenstadion, Zurich, went silent upon hearing Prince Alis withdrawal from the second round of voting at the elections after being behind 133-72 in the initial round.
You could have felt a sense of sadness (when Ali withdrew). Those who supported the incumbent (Blatter) were in glee. But you would have looked around the room at the 209 countries, each of which was represented by three delegates, and of course maybe about 100 observers, you would have sensed some form of quiet and sadness. It was then that I had a little bit of concern.. Ali and I have a good relationship and he calls me often. I was unable to speak to him after the elections, but I might speak with him tonight (Sunday). If there was some other candidate, or rather if Mr Blatter was not there, Im sure Prince Ali would have won because nobody could have faulted him for his presentation and constitution, he added.
Meanwhile, amidst all the allegations put forward against multiple ex and current members of FIFA last week, Blatter maintains his innocence and admitted that the cleanup of FIFA is good for the game. When asked how Blatter could have pleaded ignorance of the alleged corruption taking place in his organisation, Tim Kee declared: If the top US and Swiss agencies working together, and they have been digging up for the past 20 years, have found nothing, possibly, there is nothing to be found but I do not want be conclusive and unfair to Mr Blatter. But how so many calls and comments could be made and theres no truth? You have to sometimes consider the saying where there is smoke, there is fire. So how is there so much smoke, but no fire?
Tim Kee was part of Jack regime for over 20 years and help destroy and suck T&T dry, so obviously he will defend the man who put him here and made him.
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Errol, think like a rational man. What Tim Kee is saying makes sense. I am not an apologist for him. But what he said is true. Whether Webb or Jack go to jail, the CFU members must have a common agenda when decisions in Concacaf are made. The U.S. also have a fraudster in Blazer the tax evader, and yet they have Gulati on the committee? We know the CFU will be forever be paying for the sins of Jack, and now Webb, but we have to put aside differences and vote with a common agenda that will benefit CFU.
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Errol, think like a rational man. What Tim Kee is saying makes sense. I am not an apologist for him. But what he said is true. Whether Webb or Jack go to jail, the CFU members must have a common agenda when decisions in Concacaf are made. The U.S. also have a fraudster in Blazer the tax evader, and yet they have Gulati on the committee? We know the CFU will be forever be paying for the sins of Jack, and now Webb, but we have to put aside differences and vote with a common agenda that will benefit CFU.
Deeks, ah tink Errol was replying to a different post than the one you talking about.
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Thanks Mose, hence the reason I quoted it.
Deeks, you nice.
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Thanks Mose, hence the reason I quoted it.
Deeks, you nice.
My bad! I apologize !
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Tim Kee sees invoice for UNC banquet Jack used our $ to pay bill.
By Rhondor Dowlat (Guardian).
T&T Football Association (TTFA) president, Raymond Tim Kee is now corroborating at least part of the claims by former Fifa vice-president, Caribbean Football union president and TTFF adviser Jack Warner that he (Warner) funded the People’s Partnership 2010 general election campaign.
There is currently a war of words between Warner and the People’s Partnership over his claims that he funded the party’s election campaign with money sourced through his Fifa dealings.
While Warner is stickling to those claims and has allegedly provided information to a group of attorneys to prove this, the UNC continues to deny the claim.
But speaking exclusively to the T&T Guardian yesterday, Tim Kee said he knew for a fact that former Warner used his own money to fund at least one UNC event which he (Tim Kee) had knowledge of.
Tim Kee was referring to an invoice he allegedly received from a popular hotel and conference centre in Port-of-Spain which had billed the TTFA for a “UNC Banquet Dinner.”
Although initially admitting to not really wanting to let the “cat-out-of-the-bag,” Tim Kee said, “I don’t want to make it an issue yet. I have to find the document first.”
He added, “I know of this because with the invoice were some notes which indicated the items.”
Tim Kee also assured that he knew for a fact that Warner took money from the TTFF which went straight to the UNC.
“The man took our money and gave it to politics,” he said.
Tim Kee said Warner was committed to the UNC cause in 2010.
“Knowing Mr Warner as I do, he does not give up until he comes to the end of his effort and all strategies, for which he is well known, were applied in that effort to put the UNC party into power,” he said, saying he was sure Warner used the monies he would have acquired from Fifa to spend in the 2010 election.
“I would think it is public knowledge when he became chairman, he had a goal and that goal was to take the UNC party into government,” he said.
Similar football strategy
Tim Kee explained that Warner had a similar behaviour and strategy in football and in the earlier years mortgaged his house in a bid to raise money for football and to take care of some other expenses in relation to the sport.
“That was the sort of passion he (Warner) had demonstrated over the years for local football. What happens subsequent to those years I am not in a position to converse on and comment,” he said.
During an address to the nation on Wednesday night, Warner, a former national security minister and now political leader of the Independent Liberal Party, reiterated that there was a link between Fifa’s millions and the PP’s 2010 campaign.
He disclosed that he had compiled a series of cheques and supporting documents that would corroborate his financial support to the PP’s successful general campaign in 2010. The documents, Warner said, were already in the hands of attorneys.
Warner is currently out on $2.5 million bail after he appeared in the Port-of-Spain Magistrates Court on charges of corruption and racketeering conspiracy in relation to his dealings with Fifa, stemming out of an indictment by the US government, which is now seeking to extradite him to the US to face those charges.
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Jack of all funds.
By Sharlene Rampersad (Guardian)
I paid for Moonilal’s wife’s education
Independent Liberal Party (ILP) leader Jack Warner says his support for the United National Congress (UNC) was not only limited to the party, as he now alleges he paid for deputy leader Dr Roodal Moonilal’s wife to study in London.
Warner, a former Fifa vice-president who was placed on Interpol’s “red notice” on Wednesday, made the claim during an ILP cottage meeting at Battoo Street, Marabella, on Wednesday night.
“Moonilal trying today to make my chairman name look bad and Moonilal trying to demean. Her and Moonilal of course forget that is I who pay to send his wife to school in London,” Warner alleged.
“And I must sit here and listen to Moonilal?”
Warner said while going through some of his documents, he found a receipt showing where he allegedly paid to rent a house in Santa Margarita for three months for the party. He said he also found a receipt where he gave the Tobago Organisation of the People (TOP) $350,000 on April 6, 2012, but said “Ashworth Jack will watch me and say I did not give him anything.”
He threw out a challenge to the Government to deny his claims, saying he had all the documents to show where his money was spent.
“Let them say I didn’t pay for a house for three months, let them say I didn’t give the TOP money, let them say I didn’t give Moonilal money for his wife’s education in London.
“I took a considerable amount of my resources, my resources Kamla, into supporting the person who is now your Prime Minister.”
Warner also said he has a number of tapes and documents on the link between the UNC’s 2010 campaign and Fifa funding that he will release soon.
“I have documents showing the link between Fifa funding and me, the link between Fifa, its funding the UNC and the PP Government in the general elections of 2010, documents on the Section 34 fiasco, documents on my knowledge of transactions at Fifa, including, and not limited to the President Sepp Blatter.”
He apologised to the country for not disclosing these matter sooner, but promised all would be brought to the light in the near future.
Making reference to members of the international media attending the meeting, Warner said they would only be in T&T until next week.
“Look at them, first time in your lives you may be seeing them in Marabella. Don’t worry, they will be gone by next week, they only here to see Jack Warner in handcuffs.”
Warner refused to field questions from the media after at the meeting and as soon as his speech was finished he was hustled into a waiting vehicle by security.
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Tim Kee should have kept his mouth shut because now the question becomes if he knew this and had this evidence why did he not go after Jack and the UNC to reclaim it?
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Tim Kee should have kept his mouth shut because now the question becomes if he knew this and had this evidence why did he not go after Jack and the UNC to reclaim it?
Because he is just as corrupt...
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Tim Kee sees invoice for UNC banquet Jack used our $ to pay bill.
By Rhondor Dowlat (Guardian).
T&T Football Association (TTFA) president, Raymond Tim Kee is now corroborating at least part of the claims by former Fifa vice-president, Caribbean Football union president and TTFF adviser Jack Warner that he (Warner) funded the People’s Partnership 2010 general election campaign.
There is currently a war of words between Warner and the People’s Partnership over his claims that he funded the party’s election campaign with money sourced through his Fifa dealings.
While Warner is stickling to those claims and has allegedly provided information to a group of attorneys to prove this, the UNC continues to deny the claim.
But speaking exclusively to the T&T Guardian yesterday, Tim Kee said he knew for a fact that former Warner used his own money to fund at least one UNC event which he (Tim Kee) had knowledge of.
Tim Kee was referring to an invoice he allegedly received from a popular hotel and conference centre in Port-of-Spain which had billed the TTFA for a “UNC Banquet Dinner.”
Although initially admitting to not really wanting to let the “cat-out-of-the-bag,” Tim Kee said, “I don’t want to make it an issue yet. I have to find the document first.”
He added, “I know of this because with the invoice were some notes which indicated the items.”
Tim Kee also assured that he knew for a fact that Warner took money from the TTFF which went straight to the UNC.
“The man took our money and gave it to politics,” he said.
Tim Kee said Warner was committed to the UNC cause in 2010.
“Knowing Mr Warner as I do, he does not give up until he comes to the end of his effort and all strategies, for which he is well known, were applied in that effort to put the UNC party into power,” he said, saying he was sure Warner used the monies he would have acquired from Fifa to spend in the 2010 election.
“I would think it is public knowledge when he became chairman, he had a goal and that goal was to take the UNC party into government,” he said.
Similar football strategy
Tim Kee explained that Warner had a similar behaviour and strategy in football and in the earlier years mortgaged his house in a bid to raise money for football and to take care of some other expenses in relation to the sport.
“That was the sort of passion he (Warner) had demonstrated over the years for local football. What happens subsequent to those years I am not in a position to converse on and comment,” he said.
During an address to the nation on Wednesday night, Warner, a former national security minister and now political leader of the Independent Liberal Party, reiterated that there was a link between Fifa’s millions and the PP’s 2010 campaign.
He disclosed that he had compiled a series of cheques and supporting documents that would corroborate his financial support to the PP’s successful general campaign in 2010. The documents, Warner said, were already in the hands of attorneys.
Warner is currently out on $2.5 million bail after he appeared in the Port-of-Spain Magistrates Court on charges of corruption and racketeering conspiracy in relation to his dealings with Fifa, stemming out of an indictment by the US government, which is now seeking to extradite him to the US to face those charges.
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Jack of all funds.
By Sharlene Rampersad (Guardian)
I paid for Moonilal’s wife’s education
Independent Liberal Party (ILP) leader Jack Warner says his support for the United National Congress (UNC) was not only limited to the party, as he now alleges he paid for deputy leader Dr Roodal Moonilal’s wife to study in London.
Warner, a former Fifa vice-president who was placed on Interpol’s “red notice” on Wednesday, made the claim during an ILP cottage meeting at Battoo Street, Marabella, on Wednesday night.
“Moonilal trying today to make my chairman name look bad and Moonilal trying to demean. Her and Moonilal of course forget that is I who pay to send his wife to school in London,” Warner alleged.
“And I must sit here and listen to Moonilal?”
Warner said while going through some of his documents, he found a receipt showing where he allegedly paid to rent a house in Santa Margarita for three months for the party. He said he also found a receipt where he gave the Tobago Organisation of the People (TOP) $350,000 on April 6, 2012, but said “Ashworth Jack will watch me and say I did not give him anything.”
He threw out a challenge to the Government to deny his claims, saying he had all the documents to show where his money was spent.
“Let them say I didn’t pay for a house for three months, let them say I didn’t give the TOP money, let them say I didn’t give Moonilal money for his wife’s education in London.
“I took a considerable amount of my resources, my resources Kamla, into supporting the person who is now your Prime Minister.”
Warner also said he has a number of tapes and documents on the link between the UNC’s 2010 campaign and Fifa funding that he will release soon.
“I have documents showing the link between Fifa funding and me, the link between Fifa, its funding the UNC and the PP Government in the general elections of 2010, documents on the Section 34 fiasco, documents on my knowledge of transactions at Fifa, including, and not limited to the President Sepp Blatter.”
He apologised to the country for not disclosing these matter sooner, but promised all would be brought to the light in the near future.
Making reference to members of the international media attending the meeting, Warner said they would only be in T&T until next week.
“Look at them, first time in your lives you may be seeing them in Marabella. Don’t worry, they will be gone by next week, they only here to see Jack Warner in handcuffs.”
Warner refused to field questions from the media after at the meeting and as soon as his speech was finished he was hustled into a waiting vehicle by security.
Tim Kee putting he foot in he mouth.
Now self de gov eh helping T&T football.
This man will bury we after Jack Warner kill we.
Tim Kee was Jack right hand man, he guilty too, him and Camps.
Jail all ah them, because he know and kept quiet for a long time.
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Tim Kee should have kept his mouth shut because now the question becomes if he knew this and had this evidence why did he not go after Jack and the UNC to reclaim it?
Non-issue for Tim Kee. The way Jack's personal funds were tied up in the TTFF, the UNC/Jack easily could have argued that the funds were paid from the TTFF accounts, because the TTFF itself owed money to Jack. That is the larger issue here, tying of funds paid by Warner to the UNC's election efforts.
Another problematic issue nobody seems to be willing to mention is the possibility that the 2006 WC players were essentially paid with FIFA bribe money channeled thru Jack and the UNC. Sancho was on the radio this morning trying hard to distance himself from the growing scandal and callers were letting him have it.
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Tim Kee putting he foot in he mouth.
Now self de gov eh helping T&T football.
This man will bury we after Jack Warner kill we.
Tim Kee was Jack right hand man, he guilty too, him and Camps.
Jail all ah them, because he know and kept quiet for a long time.
You have any proof that Tim Kee was "Jack right hand man"? Do you have any clue as to how the political structure within the TTFF/FA functions? I swear some ah allyuh does just bump allyuh gums for the sake of bumping allyuh gums.
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Tim Kee should have kept his mouth shut because now the question becomes if he knew this and had this evidence why did he not go after Jack and the UNC to reclaim it?
Non-issue for Tim Kee. The way Jack's personal funds were tied up in the TTFF, the UNC/Jack easily could have argued that the funds were paid from the TTFF accounts, because the TTFF itself owed money to Jack. That is the larger issue here, tying of funds paid by Warner to the UNC's election efforts.
Another problematic issue nobody seems to be willing to mention is the possibility that the 2006 WC players were essentially paid with FIFA bribe money channeled thru Jack and the UNC. Sancho was on the radio this morning trying hard to distance himself from the growing scandal and callers were letting him have it.
Good point. Hadn't thought about that possibility. But it does bring up another issue that I've been thinking about. Which is that the corruption in that organisation is so deep seated and systemic that even the 'good' people in the organisation can't help but have been tainted by it.
We had a similar issue in a construction corruption scandal here in Montreal where kickbacks were such an established way of doing business that some honest businessmen found that that was the only way they could get contracts from the city and 'honest' city functionaries found money being placed in their hands and supervisors/managers/bosses telling them just take it and keep quiet.
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Tim Kee should have kept his mouth shut because now the question becomes if he knew this and had this evidence why did he not go after Jack and the UNC to reclaim it?
Non-issue for Tim Kee. The way Jack's personal funds were tied up in the TTFF, the UNC/Jack easily could have argued that the funds were paid from the TTFF accounts, because the TTFF itself owed money to Jack. That is the larger issue here, tying of funds paid by Warner to the UNC's election efforts.
Another problematic issue nobody seems to be willing to mention is the possibility that the 2006 WC players were essentially paid with FIFA bribe money channeled thru Jack and the UNC. Sancho was on the radio this morning trying hard to distance himself from the growing scandal and callers were letting him have it.
Good point. Hadn't thought about that possibility. But it does bring up another issue that I've been thinking about. Which is that the corruption in that organisation is so deep seated and systemic that even the 'good' people in the organisation can't help but have been tainted by it.
We had a similar issue in a construction corruption scandal here in Montreal where kickbacks were such an established way of doing business that some honest businessmen found that that was the only way they could get contracts from the city and 'honest' city functionaries found money being placed in their hands and supervisors/managers/bosses telling them just take it and keep quiet.
In the end the 'loan' the WC 2006 players got from the UNC gov't may be tainted funds. But the amount they were owed is based on established sponsorship money. That 'legit' money had to be somewhere in Warner's accounts as well. When you launder without separating the white wash turns pink.
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In the end the 'loan' the WC 2006 players got from the UNC gov't may be tainted funds. But the amount they were owed is based on established sponsorship money. That 'legit' money had to be somewhere in Warner's accounts as well. When you launder without separating the white wash turns pink.
How can it be "legitimate"? The Government never owed them any money, Jack did. Also, il/legitimacy aside, the source is in question. Of course this is only a semi-serious point being made, if not, then ever single government payment would have to be similarly compromised, which morally speaking (given Jack's role in putting them into power), they are.
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In the end the 'loan' the WC 2006 players got from the UNC gov't may be tainted funds. But the amount they were owed is based on established sponsorship money. That 'legit' money had to be somewhere in Warner's accounts as well. When you launder without separating the white wash turns pink.
How can it be "legitimate"? The Government never owed them any money, Jack did. Also, il/legitimacy aside, the source is in question. Of course this is only a semi-serious point being made, if not, then ever single government payment would have to be similarly compromised, which morally speaking (given Jack's role in putting them into power), they are.
I understand that the gov't 'loan' and money the TTFF owed which Jack probably pilfered are 2 things, though in this case who knows. TTFF->Jack->UNC->'loan' ;D
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Tim Kee should have kept his mouth shut because now the question becomes if he knew this and had this evidence why did he not go after Jack and the UNC to reclaim it?
Non-issue for Tim Kee. The way Jack's personal funds were tied up in the TTFF, the UNC/Jack easily could have argued that the funds were paid from the TTFF accounts, because the TTFF itself owed money to Jack. That is the larger issue here, tying of funds paid by Warner to the UNC's election efforts.
Another problematic issue nobody seems to be willing to mention is the possibility that the 2006 WC players were essentially paid with FIFA bribe money channeled thru Jack and the UNC. Sancho was on the radio this morning trying hard to distance himself from the growing scandal and callers were letting him have it.
Bakes youself. What kinda spin is that. That's a Fox News spin you just try to put on we.
How the hell Sancho supposed to know where JW getting he money from to pay them. What kinda foolishness is that you trying to put out there. Deflect the issue from Tim Kee if you want but that right there is some :bs:
How is that problematic? Can you prove that Sancho knew JW received bribe money and paid them with it?
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Bakes youself. What kinda spin is that. That's a Fox News spin you just try to put on we.
How the hell Sancho supposed to know where JW getting he money from to pay them. What kinda foolishness is that you trying to put out there. Deflect the issue from Tim Kee if you want but that right there is some :bs:
How is that problematic? Can you prove that Sancho knew JW received bribe money and paid them with it?
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Let me break it down for you since you seem intent on playing the part of the village idiot: It is a non-issue for Tim Kee/the current TTFA administration, because they have already submitted a dossier to the DPP three months ago with regards to monies due the TTFF which was inappropriated by Jack Warner. There is a criminal investigation which will begin whenever the DPP gets around to it, until then, no civil proceding can take place. Tim Kee was in no position to make any allegation before that, plus I said, given the convoluted financial practices between Jack and the TTFF, he easily could have waved off any complaints (prior to the audit which was turned over the the DPP) as unsound business practices, but nothing illegal.
As for Sancho... you love waving that :bs: flag... yuh need to take that and beat yuhself in the head with it for being so dotish. For starters I said " (o)f course this is only a semi-serious point being made...", not only that but your argument makes no sense. Can anyone prove that Kamla and the PP gov't knew that Jack got the money via bribes, grafts or embezzlement? When it comes to money laundering it doesn't matter whether the recipient knew the tainted source of the funds or not, the fact is that they benefited from illegally laundered funds. This is why I say it's problematic for Sancho if it turns out that bribe money somehow ended up in his hands, given how he's positioned himself as this champion of 'transparency and accountability'. It's not a lega quandary, it's a moral one. You don't have to see it, so don't worry your head.
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Bakes youself. What kinda spin is that. That's a Fox News spin you just try to put on we.
How the hell Sancho supposed to know where JW getting he money from to pay them. What kinda foolishness is that you trying to put out there. Deflect the issue from Tim Kee if you want but that right there is some :bs:
How is that problematic? Can you prove that Sancho knew JW received bribe money and paid them with it?
:bs: :bs:
Let me break it down for you since you seem intent on playing the part of the village idiot: It is a non-issue for Tim Kee/the current TTFA administration, because they have already submitted a dossier to the DPP three months ago with regards to monies due the TTFF which was inappropriated by Jack Warner. There is a criminal investigation which will begin whenever the DPP gets around to it, until then, no civil proceding can take place. Tim Kee was in no position to make any allegation before that, plus I said, given the convoluted financial practices between Jack and the TTFF, he easily could have waved off any complaints (prior to the audit which was turned over the the DPP) as unsound business practices, but nothing illegal.
As for Sancho... you love waving that :bs: flag... yuh need to take that and beat yuhself in the head with it for being so dotish. For starters I said " (o)f course this is only a semi-serious point being made...", not only that but your argument makes no sense. Can anyone prove that Kamla and the PP gov't knew that Jack got the money via bribes, grafts or embezzlement? When it comes to money laundering it doesn't matter whether the recipient knew the tainted source of the funds or not, the fact is that they benefited from illegally laundered funds. This is why I say it's problematic for Sancho if it turns out that bribe money somehow ended up in his hands, given how he's positioned himself as this champion of 'transparency and accountability'. It's not a lega quandary, it's a moral one. You don't have to see it, so don't worry your head.
Shut your mouth. You tossing "semi-serious" :bs: out to detract from Tim Kee dotishness. You stretching yuhself so thin that yuh transparent now.
Sancho has 0, nada, nothing, - moral or legal - to do with JW receiving bribe money. That's just you trying to muddy the water.
There's nothing to see. If Sancho is i a moral quandary, then so to is everyone who JW paid, donated, gave money to.
Get real Bakes.
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Shut your mouth. You tossing "semi-serious" :bs: out to detract from Tim Kee dotishness. You stretching yuhself so thin that yuh transparent now.
Sancho has 0, nada, nothing, - moral or legal - to do with JW receiving bribe money. That's just you trying to muddy the water.
There's nothing to see. If Sancho is i a moral quandary, then so to is everyone who JW paid, donated, gave money to.
Get real Bakes.
You have Sancho nuts in yuh mouth at the same time yuh head up Tim Kee ass... he "dotish" for taking what he know to the DPP rather than running to Kamla complaining? You come juss like Harrison, Sancho is allyuh God. Can't take you seriously.
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Shut your mouth. You tossing "semi-serious" :bs: out to detract from Tim Kee dotishness. You stretching yuhself so thin that yuh transparent now.
Sancho has 0, nada, nothing, - moral or legal - to do with JW receiving bribe money. That's just you trying to muddy the water.
There's nothing to see. If Sancho is i a moral quandary, then so to is everyone who JW paid, donated, gave money to.
Get real Bakes.
You have Sancho nuts in yuh mouth at the same time yuh head up Tim Kee ass... he "dotish" for taking what he know to the DPP rather than running to Kamla complaining? You come juss like Harrison, Sancho is allyuh God. Can't take you seriously.
You must can't take me seriously calling you on your crusade. You can say what you want about me having Sancho's nuts in my mouth. It still will not change the fact that you are Sheldon Phillip and by extension Tim Kee spin doctor.
There is no reason to bring Sancho into this. Yet for some reason you just slide his name in. That's because you looking to deflect from you buddies.
You come with your fox news strategy. Putting something out there that's false and then trying to work around it. Dude, really. Come on son.
Here, I'm gonna do a cursory google search on the timeline of the TTFA election. :joker:
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You must can't take me seriously calling you on your crusade. You can say what you want about me having Sancho's nuts in my mouth. It still will not change the fact that you are Sheldon Phillip and by extension Tim Kee spin doctor.
There is no reason to bring Sancho into this. Yet for some reason you just slide his name in. That's because you looking to deflect from you buddies.
You come with your fox news strategy. Putting something out there that's false and then trying to work around it. Dude, really. Come on son.
Here, I'm gonna do a cursory google search on the timeline of the TTFA election. :joker:
Boy, you's ah even bigger dunce if you suggesting I "juss slide" Sancho name in this... Sancho not the one running up and down talking about how he "not surprised Warner was charged with corruption (http://www.guardian.co.tt/sport/2015-05-28/sancho-not-surprised)", and that he "wants Warner to answer FBI questions (http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,211820.html)"? Sancho is the one inserting himself in the mix, joining the rest of the PP hypocrites in trying to shovel dirt on Warner head when all of them benefited from him thiefing money. Imagine the irony then if Mr. "transparency and accountability" end up taking money which potentially came from bribes paid to Warner? Doh worry, as I said, I doh expect yuh to see it. Keep talking about who spin doctor I supposed to be.
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Sancho playing corruption buster whilst serving in what is arguably the most corrupt government in our nation's history. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Why he doh dig up in LifeSport and supply us with some answers?
Oh and by the way "Carapo endorses Brent Sancho"....LOL...would be interesting to see how that link plays itself out.
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Caption this
(http://www.socawarriors.net/images/stories/tim-kee-camps-jack.jpg)
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Sancho playing corruption buster whilst serving in what is arguably the most corrupt government in our nation's history. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Why he doh dig up in LifeSport and supply us with some answers?
Oh and by the way "Carapo endorses Brent Sancho"....LOL...would be interesting to see how that link plays itself out.
:-X
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Tim Kee sees invoice for UNC banquet Jack used our $ to pay bill.
By Rhondor Dowlat (Guardian).
T&T Football Association (TTFA) president, Raymond Tim Kee is now corroborating at least part of the claims by former Fifa vice-president, Caribbean Football union president and TTFF adviser Jack Warner that he (Warner) funded the People’s Partnership 2010 general election campaign.
There is currently a war of words between Warner and the People’s Partnership over his claims that he funded the party’s election campaign with money sourced through his Fifa dealings.
While Warner is stickling to those claims and has allegedly provided information to a group of attorneys to prove this, the UNC continues to deny the claim.
But speaking exclusively to the T&T Guardian yesterday, Tim Kee said he knew for a fact that former Warner used his own money to fund at least one UNC event which he (Tim Kee) had knowledge of.
Tim Kee was referring to an invoice he allegedly received from a popular hotel and conference centre in Port-of-Spain which had billed the TTFA for a “UNC Banquet Dinner.”
Although initially admitting to not really wanting to let the “cat-out-of-the-bag,” Tim Kee said, “I don’t want to make it an issue yet. I have to find the document first.”
He added, “I know of this because with the invoice were some notes which indicated the items.”
Tim Kee also assured that he knew for a fact that Warner took money from the TTFF which went straight to the UNC.
“The man took our money and gave it to politics,” he said.
Tim Kee said Warner was committed to the UNC cause in 2010.
“Knowing Mr Warner as I do, he does not give up until he comes to the end of his effort and all strategies, for which he is well known, were applied in that effort to put the UNC party into power,” he said, saying he was sure Warner used the monies he would have acquired from Fifa to spend in the 2010 election.
“I would think it is public knowledge when he became chairman, he had a goal and that goal was to take the UNC party into government,” he said.
Similar football strategy
Tim Kee explained that Warner had a similar behaviour and strategy in football and in the earlier years mortgaged his house in a bid to raise money for football and to take care of some other expenses in relation to the sport.
“That was the sort of passion he (Warner) had demonstrated over the years for local football. What happens subsequent to those years I am not in a position to converse on and comment,” he said.
During an address to the nation on Wednesday night, Warner, a former national security minister and now political leader of the Independent Liberal Party, reiterated that there was a link between Fifa’s millions and the PP’s 2010 campaign.
He disclosed that he had compiled a series of cheques and supporting documents that would corroborate his financial support to the PP’s successful general campaign in 2010. The documents, Warner said, were already in the hands of attorneys.
Warner is currently out on $2.5 million bail after he appeared in the Port-of-Spain Magistrates Court on charges of corruption and racketeering conspiracy in relation to his dealings with Fifa, stemming out of an indictment by the US government, which is now seeking to extradite him to the US to face those charges.
RELATED NEWS
Jack of all funds.
By Sharlene Rampersad (Guardian)
I paid for Moonilal’s wife’s education
Independent Liberal Party (ILP) leader Jack Warner says his support for the United National Congress (UNC) was not only limited to the party, as he now alleges he paid for deputy leader Dr Roodal Moonilal’s wife to study in London.
Warner, a former Fifa vice-president who was placed on Interpol’s “red notice” on Wednesday, made the claim during an ILP cottage meeting at Battoo Street, Marabella, on Wednesday night.
“Moonilal trying today to make my chairman name look bad and Moonilal trying to demean. Her and Moonilal of course forget that is I who pay to send his wife to school in London,” Warner alleged.
“And I must sit here and listen to Moonilal?”
Warner said while going through some of his documents, he found a receipt showing where he allegedly paid to rent a house in Santa Margarita for three months for the party. He said he also found a receipt where he gave the Tobago Organisation of the People (TOP) $350,000 on April 6, 2012, but said “Ashworth Jack will watch me and say I did not give him anything.”
He threw out a challenge to the Government to deny his claims, saying he had all the documents to show where his money was spent.
“Let them say I didn’t pay for a house for three months, let them say I didn’t give the TOP money, let them say I didn’t give Moonilal money for his wife’s education in London.
“I took a considerable amount of my resources, my resources Kamla, into supporting the person who is now your Prime Minister.”
Warner also said he has a number of tapes and documents on the link between the UNC’s 2010 campaign and Fifa funding that he will release soon.
“I have documents showing the link between Fifa funding and me, the link between Fifa, its funding the UNC and the PP Government in the general elections of 2010, documents on the Section 34 fiasco, documents on my knowledge of transactions at Fifa, including, and not limited to the President Sepp Blatter.”
He apologised to the country for not disclosing these matter sooner, but promised all would be brought to the light in the near future.
Making reference to members of the international media attending the meeting, Warner said they would only be in T&T until next week.
“Look at them, first time in your lives you may be seeing them in Marabella. Don’t worry, they will be gone by next week, they only here to see Jack Warner in handcuffs.”
Warner refused to field questions from the media after at the meeting and as soon as his speech was finished he was hustled into a waiting vehicle by security.
Tim Kee will destroy T&T football, wait and see guys.
The same people he reliant on for money he blasting.
Now the little funds T&T use to get from de gov, they will cut.
Shut your mouth man and resign your post.
I am fed up with this fool.
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I believe the longer the foreign news media in Trinidad the more information we will get.
They are digging for everything that was missed by our news
What do you think?
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I believe the longer the foreign news media in Trinidad the more information we will get.
They are digging for everything that was missed by our news
What do you think?
We are collectively slowly waking up to the sneakiness, twistedness and deception of this clown (Uncle Tim).
All will come to light gradually and sometimes explosively. Have no fear ... at least not too much.
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I believe the longer the foreign news media in Trinidad the more information we will get.
They are digging for everything that was missed by our news
What do you think?
We are collectively slowly waking up to the sneakiness, twistedness and deception of this clown (Uncle Tim).
All will come to light gradually and sometimes explosively. Have no fear ... at least not too much.
how long did it take all of you to wake up... not too long ago i was being attacked on the board because i stated from the beginning tim kee is not to be trusted and is not right for our football..
no one listened...
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Tim Kee should resign... he has done absolutely nothing during his time to take T&T forward. He is the reason why they have few sponsors.
That post should not be held by anyone associated with any political party because if your party not in power you will be squeezed. If you in power you will be unfairly funded and the other Sporting associations will complain.
At the end of the day the most important members of the TTFA are the national programs and because of One Man they have had to suffer for 3 years financially. Senior men and women teams, youth teams etc.
At least Sheldon Phillips trying something, I've heard he has good ideas and very professional just partnered up with the wrong president.
If Tim Kee really cares about T&T football he should step aside. It's simply an ego thing at this point.
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Tim Kee should resign... he has done absolutely nothing during his time to take T&T forward. He is the reason why they have few sponsors.
That post should not be held by anyone associated with any political party because if your party not in power you will be squeezed. If you in power you will be unfairly funded and the other Sporting associations will complain.
At the end of the day the most important members of the TTFA are the national programs and because of One Man they have had to suffer for 3 years financially. Senior men and women teams, youth teams etc.
At least Sheldon Phillips trying something, I've heard he has good ideas and very professional just partnered up with the wrong president.
If Tim Kee really cares about T&T football he should step aside. It's simply an ego thing at this point.
sheldon aligning himself with tim kee brings his motives into question as well, sadly...
i understand he wanted to give him a chance, but dragging it on for so many years, leaves a sour taste in the mouth of many, so i think we need to wipe the slate clean...
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Contro, no problem with your views here. Never be afraid to stand by your views especially if you're driven by sincerity and true concern for the unsung exploited players. Don't be intimidated by henchmen and agents for Jackulito, Scamps, Rodent, Uncle Tim. Uncle Tim was not known by all so he was given time to show his colours ... and what lovely colours many see now.
Watch as he slowly tries to distance himself from Renraw and as he watches to see how far the dragnet spreads, with more nuts being squeezed and the treasure trove of Concacaf documents being perused after their office was busted open.
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how long did it take all of you to wake up... not too long ago i was being attacked on the board because i stated from the beginning tim kee is not to be trusted and is not right for our football..
no one listened...
I don't recall seeing anyone attacking you, but let's explore this for argument's sake:
Why is he not to be trusted?
Why do you feel your position has been validated, in the three years since he took over?
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Tim.Tee, the Spider-man, the Scamps- man, the Rodent, and the Mouth of the West, are like peas in a pod. Now I know why they didn't want to go after the Jack of all funds, legally. Question is, how you gonna sue yourself?
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Fire Raymond Tim Kee Thread.
Tim Kee is a millionaire and makes millions from his insurance company (Trinre Insurance), why can't he use some of that money and invest it into some marketing strategy to generate more money for T&T football?
Money makes money.
Instead of relying on the government alone and making T&T football look bad and making me cuss to much.
He allowed 10 years of corruption as a VP with TTFA. He even admitted he knew what was happening...remember he saw the UNC banquet invoice. Right, so why did he not report this 5 years ago? If you witness a crime and don't report it, you are just as guilty not so?
The Germany LOC was still renting 40,000 dollars a month offices from Jack in 2009, how?
A of the big men he knows from being mayor or PNM treasurer, not one would support him?
On de flip side.
I know my boy Kevin Harrison is a good dude and I go like to see him involve in T&T football, he should not be involved in this Sancho vs TTFA problem and we could use him on the TTFA staff and get ride of some of them back stabbers working there.
In 3 years Kevin made Central into a top club and they self efficient.
Sancho lose points by me though and SPoRTT need a staff redo.
Everybody wants to be a boss in T&T and now all of them want to get into politics so they could full they pockets and be heroes.
Tim Kee need to step up his game or step the hell down.
We football in a mess and he making it worst.
If you can't handle de job, please retire and let someone else take it up.
If you want to stay on, find, then do de right thing.
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Now we talking. Uncle Tim must go and must be the unwavering focus of our actions just like we did for Jackulito. Remember iz a work in progress. I will donate money to see him go and stay invested in securing that another one of his Cosa Nostra cabal does not succeed him. Daiz how dey does do it to cover their tracts and avoid prosecution.
Whoever helps to get rid of Uncle Tim will be fairly welcome as long as they too eh dealing in evil intent to damage the warriors. More on this later.
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Check this scenario:
Gov't Elections September 7th 2015. PNM wins and Tim Kee and the TTFA have more corporate sponsors and better M.O.S relations. World Cup qualification campaign begins in November 2015.
TTFA have not announced when their election will take place. Let's say later this year and Tim Kee loses I can assure you it will be a repeat of the same political bullshit which has taken place over the last 3 years.
You really feel Tim Kee going to fund Football if some rival oust him ? We will have to pray that the person coming in as President etc is someone who very very good at getting sponsors because we all know this game. This country is the most petty vindictive place in the world.
I have no faith in Tim Kee but I rather see him fund Football as president for 4 years during a world cup qualification campaign than a repeat of the last 3 years with a new man in charge getting the squeeze like he did from UNC/PP...... so I can assure you he keeping his ass in that president chair until Gov't Elections where you have to fancy PNM to win it.
Stephan Hart and all the coaches, all the national programs deserve full backing..If it's Tim Kee doing it, I don't give a f**k... I cannot take another few years of bullshit that affecting THOUSANDS of players, coaches, fans etc for a few people ego's who have the power to change things here.
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Who would be considered as credible alternatives?
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my vote is for Bakes :rotfl:
In all honesty for me it would be the guys at central. They have taken football back to the community and that's whats needed.
You have a real chance now to shape the future of your nation, engage in youth projects as todays children could be tomorrows stars. Get out to the local communities hold coaching sessions across the nation this could be funded by the corporates.
Football is a game for the people, not for the rich and shameless
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my vote is for Bakes :rotfl:
In all honesty for me it would be the guys at central. They have taken football back to the community and that's whats needed.
You have a real chance now to shape the future of your nation, engage in youth projects as todays children could be tomorrows stars. Get out to the local communities hold coaching sessions across the nation this could be funded by the corporates.
Football is a game for the people, not for the rich and shameless
Thanks, but no thanks lol
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Hi FS I only say you guys as your very proactive and the only guys who can get corporate T&T on board, as well as your success in a short period of time
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Football is a game for the people, not for the rich and shameless
gb8702, minor league/Sunday morning football is a game for the people, Pro-football is for the rich, famous, and shameless
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Without the average person football wouldn't exist, where do the players come from not muti millionaire family's !!
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Actually, there is community football in TT. It never died. Is just that the media don't feature community football as before. Plus over the years(Jack Warner era), the various communities have been doing their own thing. They did not want to be bothered with Jack and his TTFF.
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Maybe a fresh start and time to engage again with the future of the nation?
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Without the average person football wouldn't exist, where do the players come from not muti millionaire family's !!
Yes, most of the players are not from millionaire famailies. But the multimillions are the ones pumping money into football. Abramovich, the Emratis, Glazer family, etc,etc are putting money in Euro football. The English, Spanish, Germans, Italians, French leagues is where the big money is currently. That is why everybody wants to play there. Is the multi millionaires running(or ruining, take your pick) the game now.
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For me its ruining the game Deeks, Look at ticket prices in the uk the games gone mad.
It's ok having rich backers but with no fans buying shirt, tickets, etc do you think these people would stick around? If you look at these backers in the uk they have engaged with the fans, do a lot in the communities and have links to junior football.
Trinidad produces some great footballers, with the right guidance these players can reach the top but it needs the people at the top to pull in the same direction to ensure that the future of football has solid foundations on which it can build upon.
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Tim Kee's dilemma: Son or TTFA?
Sunshine Newspapers Reports.
TTFA current President Raymond Tim Kee needs to clear the air and tell the national community whether the firing of the General Secretary of TTFA has anything to do with his refusal to pay his son a whopping $15,000.00 USD to build a website for the TTFA.
Apart from all the legal brouhaha and arguments concerning whether or not he has the right to terminate the General Secretary, Tim Kee needs to be open about the real reasons why he wants Phillips to go.
Sunshine learned that Tim Kee contracted his son, Kareem Tim Kee to build a website for the TTFA. As far as members close to the TTFA are concerned, no one is aware of the process or procedure that was used to retain the services of Tim Kee’s son.
No one knew about the contractual arrangements until invoices began appearing from Kareem’s company, requesting payment for work done. This was no small amount for a sporting organization that is strapped for cash.
Invoices in the sum of $6,000.00USD, $1,500.00 USD and $7,500.00 USD were submitted for payment and it is said that President Tim Kee began applying pressure on General Secretary Sheldon Phillips to have his son paid for his services.
His son was paid $50,000.00 TTD before Sunshine understands that the General Secretary indicated that he was not prepared to sign off for any other payment given the lack of funds within the Association.
Sunshine was told that a number of coaches are still to be paid and TTFA still has outstanding payments for a number of players, yet the President’s sole interest was not in the payment to these stakeholders but to his son for building a website for which there is no contractual arrangement.
Sunshine understands that the General Secretary felt that the President had his priorities misplaced and expressed to him that seeking his son’s benefit created a conflict of interest.It was at this juncture that the relationship be-tween the two went south.
Furthermore, the Sunshine was told that at this juncture with the national team getting ready to compete for a spot in the 2020 World Cup to be held in Russia, the TTFA is under threat of being suspended from international competition.
According to correspondence dated 17 March 2015, which was sent by FIFA to the TTFA, the Association was warned to settle the debt of some $202,125.00 USD which includes interest up to 3 March 2015.
This is an outstanding sum that is owed to Mr. Even Pellerud, the for-mer national coach for the Women’s U-17 team.
The consequences are so severe that FIFA has threatened that if payment to Pellerud was not made by 10 July 2015 and a copy of the proof of payment was not sent to FIFA by the same date then the case of Pellerud vs the TTFA would be sent to the Disciplinary Committee of FIFA.
It is informative to note that to date no payment has been made and, in an effort to assist the TTFA and not to suspend them from the World Cup competition FIFA has decided to deduct the debt from the $250,000.00 USD FIFA annual stipend to the TTFA.
Anyone close to football understands that once the TTFA indebtedness had reached the FIFA Disciplinary Committee harsher sanctions could have been imposed.
But as far as Tim Kee is concerned, it seems like the fate of the TTFA was of little or no consequence; his main interest was to ensure that his son Kareem got paid.
So while Coach Hart and the national team are in training to bring glory to Trinidad and Tobago, the President of the TTFA was more concerned with putting money into his son’s pocket.
This is what Sunshine was told is the real reason behind the current impasse between the President and the General Secretary of the TTFA.
The question that keeps lingering though is whether Tim Kee has the authority to terminate the services of his General Secretary?
Or is he blinded by other factors that have pushed him to make a plethora of errors into seeking to terminate the services of Phillips?
Persons of longstanding within the TTFA believes that Tim Kee does not have the power or authority to fire the General Secretary.
They state that based on the TTFA Constitution, both the old and new ver-sions, the authority to dis-miss a General Secretary is the remit of the Executive Committee.
One senior executive member noted that under the Section: “Duties/Responsibilities of the President” the wording is not just similar but identical.
Article 23.3 of the previous constitution and Article 39.3 of the present constitution state that “. . .only the President may propose the appointment or dismissal of the General Secretary.
”In Article 30.9 under the heading “Powers of the Executive Committee” again the Constitution is clear that “the Executive Committee shall appoint or dismiss the General Secretary on the proposal of the President.”
In all three cases the operative word is “propose” and the meaning seem to have somehow been lost to Tim Kee since the word con-notes “to offer and suggest for consideration” some-thing that is lacking in the actions of the President.
Clearly based on the Constitution, Tim Kee has arrogated unto himself power that he does not have and rather than taking a proposal to the Executive Committee, Tim Kee proceeded to terminate the service of the General Secretary of the TTFA.
Even if Tim Kee had legitimate grounds to do so, the most he can do is pro-pose.It is left up to the Executive Committee to deter-mine whether or not it sup-ports Tim Kee’s proposal and terminate the tenure of Phillips or whether they support the actions of Phil-lips in which case Tim Kee needs to resign because he has lost the confidence of his executive.
That Phillips to date has not been reinstated has raised serious concerns because one can only hope that the installation of Paula Chester-Cumberbatch, Assistant Secretary, Administration to the post of Ag General Secretary of the TTFA was not simply to ensure that Kareem Tim Kee gets paid. Such an action should result in the immediate suspension of the President who should be debarred from contesting the elections on November 29, 2015.
One can only hope that the way Tim Kee manages the TTFA is not the same way the Office of the Mayor is managed because under the PNM it is this type of nepotism and cronyism that the leader of the party promised to get rid of when he ascended into power.
It is difficult to imagine Tim Kee as a Jekyll and Hyde where in the seat of the Mayor he displays one kind of personality while as the President of the TTFA another kind is displayed.
Maybe football needs to take a closer look at Tim Kee the man who valorized Jeffrey Webb who is now embroiled in the type of controversy that Tim Kee feigned to shun.
The lessons, football has learned with Tim Kee as President, have been extremely difficult and many hope that his actions against Phillips would now become the basis for his withdrawal as a candidate for the post of President.
Maybe that is too much to ask but when personal interests take precedence over national interest then the decent thing for anyone to do is to resign and give your office to one who puts country first and self after. The time has come for Tim Kee to go so that football can once again breathe freely.
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Flex just for clarification. This media source you posting from is owned by Jack Warner right?
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Flex just for clarification. This media source you posting from is owned by Jack Warner right?
Correct !!!!
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^ well I for one would rather see this news story investigated then published by one of TnT mainstream newspapers instead of a newspaper owned by a man who does not think highly of Tim Kee. Regardless how anyone feel about Tim Kee I am sure right minded people would think along similar lines.
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Where there is smoke there was fire!
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Things really bad when you see Sheldon running news on a Jack Warner owned newspapers that no one takes seriously, its like the punch or bomb newspapers. I guess he needed an outlet that will not do much research and just publish anything.
If the allegations are right, Tim Kee really mess up a good thing he could have had.
And all the time Sheldon was down with Tim Kee secret deals (Mullien, Akeem, 500 for the entire women team, where did the 10,000 US Randy raised for them went, etc, etc) but now he got fired and decide to spill the beans.
I am glad he spilling beans, but it would be nice coming from a more trust worthy source, like SWO or the Guardian?
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Flex just for clarification. This media source you posting from is owned by Jack Warner right?
Correct !!!!
I will hold my opinions for now. Never a dull moment.
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"Sunshine" understands a lot of things (so states the article). However, somewhat 'curiously', Sunshine refers to the WC as the "2020 World Cup" ... especially after all the sun shining on FIFA 2018.
Hence...
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This article is really piss poor and makes the story look like fake gossip. It does more harm than good.
Jack Warner really cant pay someone better to write for him with all that money he stole?
Poor Sheldon, so sad to see he has to take this route and id the story is real, I applaud him for standing up.
He should have used SWO or one of the T&T more recognized dailies.
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This article is really piss poor and makes the story look like fake gossip. It does more harm than good.
Jack Warner really cant pay someone better to write for him with all that money he stole?
Poor Sheldon, so sad to see he has to take this route and id the story is real, I applaud him for standing up.
He should have used SWO or one of the T&T more recognized dailies.
Why are you assuming that he's the source?
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The Sunshine usually speaks the truth, man. They just don't have the proof to take it to court...but how many of the allegations against the UNC leading up to elections have resulted in actual law suits ?
In other words, its good enough for us on this site to have a conversation and get more info on it but it is not good enough for the police to charge anybody. Nothing wrong with posting that type of stuff on a talk forum.
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The Sunshine usually speaks the truth, man. They just don't have the proof to take it to court...but how many of the allegations against the UNC leading up to elections have resulted in actual law suits ?
In other words, its good enough for us on this site to have a conversation and get more info on it but it is not good enough for the police to charge anybody. Nothing wrong with posting that type of stuff on a talk forum.
ENT The mama of mamaguy threaten to sue she eh even send a PAP.
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Interesting that so many assume that Sheldon is the source.
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even so it is always good for nonsense like this to come to light....timkee continues to loose points
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The Sunshine usually speaks the truth, man. They just don't have the proof to take it to court...but how many of the allegations against the UNC leading up to elections have resulted in actual law suits ?
In other words, its good enough for us on this site to have a conversation and get more info on it but it is not good enough for the police to charge anybody. Nothing wrong with posting that type of stuff on a talk forum.
Is one thing to post on a talk forum. Is another to print it as actual fact in a newspaper.
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even so it is always good for nonsense like this to come to light....timkee continues to loose points
If it is true. Remember, there are still members of the executive who are loyal to Jack.
Remember also that we've criticised Lasana for better articles than this.
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Echoing a few posters, I not sure why SP is automatically assumed to be the source of this article. Furthermore I am a little confused as to why anyone would take issue with this paper releasing this story as if it would be impossible that they got legitimate information. Forget about the forum used to dispense the info and concentrate on what is actually being said and whether it can in fact be true or not.
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FUD! Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt! Something Jack is a master at! Throw out some unverified damning or salacious allegations and while everybody chasing dey tail trying to figure out if is true or not, dey not paying any attention to de man behind the curtain and he machinations.
Anybody else notice that the only quotes in the article are in relation to whether or not RTK had the right to fire Sheldon? Not a single quote from the sources as to the reason he was fired.
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FUD! Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt! Something Jack is a master at! Throw out some unverified damning or salacious allegations and while everybody chasing dey tail trying to figure out if is true or not, dey not paying any attention to de man behind the curtain and he machinations.
Anybody else notice that the only quotes in the article are in relation to whether or not RTK had the right to fire Sheldon? Not a single quote from the sources as to the reason he was fired.
Lending much credence to the idea that SP is NOT the source. I agree he is a master at manipulation and subterfuge but i believe we have enough people close enough to learn the truth (if any) behind what was said in this article.
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Allyuh think JW penned that? Not convinced.
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Allyuh think JW penned that? Not convinced.
Not relevant. The article is a straight up smear job!
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FUD! Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt! Something Jack is a master at! Throw out some unverified damning or salacious allegations and while everybody chasing dey tail trying to figure out if is true or not, dey not paying any attention to de man behind the curtain and he machinations.
Anybody else notice that the only quotes in the article are in relation to whether or not RTK had the right to fire Sheldon? Not a single quote from the sources as to the reason he was fired.
Lending much credence to the idea that SP is NOT the source. I agree he is a master at manipulation and subterfuge but i believe we have enough people close enough to learn the truth (if any) behind what was said in this article.
And if we go to Sheldon himself he will most likely say not true as he's already had the opportunity to address his firing in the news and said nothing of this. After that, what is the point?
Had Sheldon said anything, RTK was dead in the water.
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Allyuh think JW penned that? Not convinced.
Not relevant. The article is a straight up smear job!
Even if the accusation is true, there was no attempt at responsible journalism here.
If Warner is the owner of this paper, then the article is even more laughable.
VB
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Maybe somebody or parties are attempting to widen the chasm between RTK and Sheldon, so that RTK will not rehire him. I don't know. This is highly confusing.
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Allyuh think JW penned that? Not convinced.
Not relevant. The article is a straight up smear job!
Even if the accusation is true, there was no attempt at responsible journalism here.
If Warner is the owner of this paper, then the article is even more laughable.
VB
There is no "if". He is the owner
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Will TTFA current President Raymond Tim Kee (or a representative from the TTFA) be at the game today?.
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Maybe somebody or parties are attempting to widen the chasm between RTK and Sheldon, so that RTK will not rehire him. I don't know. This is highly confusing.
The main purpose is ... mango hadda hit de ground when it ripe. Low hanging fruit? Shake and pull de branches. Why climb de tree?
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Maybe somebody or parties are attempting to widen the chasm between RTK and Sheldon, so that RTK will not rehire him. I don't know. This is highly confusing.
Tim Kee widen the chasm on his own he didn't need help with that... and unnecessarily so too. I have no doubt that there is some kind of truth to the allegations. I saw the beta version of the website a year ago, fellas like Tenorsaw and Feliziano could attest to that because I shared the link with them. The site didn't look any different than it does now, save for the functional links. There is nothing that explains a years delay, unless it was to draw out delivery and extract additional pay. Tim Kee real disappoint in the end. Make it worse, the ExCo, FIFA and CONCACAF all telling him he's wrong and rather than accept that he react like an emotional backside, he's digging in his heels. Even a broken clock like Jack gets it right every now and then, his decision-making seriously compromised.
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Online action group to present petition, demanding mayor's resignation...
By Kim Boodram (Express).
MAYOR MUST RESIGN
WHILE its online petition seeking the resignation of Port of Spain Mayor Raymond Tim Kee steamed ahead with more than 4,500 signatures by yesterday afternoon, civil action group Womantra TT is expected to march to City Hall today, petition in hand, to reinforce a call for Tim Kee to hang up his mayoral chain.
The group, which operates on social media engine Facebook, began a petition yesterday, calling for Tim Kee's resignation following comments he made on Wednesday after the discovery of the body of Japanese musician Asami Nagakiya, who was in Trinidad for Carnival. She was 30.
At the time of the discovery, the cause of Asami Nagakiya's death was unknown (she was strangled), and in a media conference later that day, Tim Kee said women had a responsibility to ensure they are not abused.
He also said he has spoken in the past about “vulgarity” and “lewdness” displayed by women during the festivities.
Womantra's event today is titled “Don't be Vulgar, Mr Tim Kee”.
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Tim Kee: No parking at Nelson Mandela Park if it rains
Published on Jan 14, 2016, 8:46 pm AST
By Michelle Loubon
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TTFA PRESIDENT: Raymond Tim Kee
PORT of Spain Mayor Raymond Tim Kee said yesterday patrons attending St Mary's College all-inclusive, Fete With The Saints tomorrow, will only be allowed to park their vehicles in Nelson Mandela Park if it does not rain.
He said the fete's organisers will have to pay if there is any damage to the park. Permission will not be granted to other fete promoters.
St Clair residents have complained about the Port of Spain City Corporation's decision to allow patrons the use of the park.
Tim Kee was speaking with reporters after an award ceremony and live broadcast for calypso icon David Rudder at Power 102FM's studio in Port of Spain. (See Page 16)
Councillor Darryl Rajpaul, chairman of a committee which oversees the upkeep of Nelson Mandela Park said he was disappointed with the decision and did not know who granted the approval.
Asked about Mandela Park, Tim Kee said: “We made it absolutely clear they should not park there if it rains. If there is any damage to the park, they will have to pay for it. It's just for a few hours. We will not be letting other fete promoters park there.”
Asked about permission to use the park, Tim Kee maintained yesterday: “I was not in the country when the decision was taken.”
But deputy mayor Keron Valentine said on Wednesday that approval was granted by Tim Kee. Tim Kee added: “Mandela Park belongs to Trinidad and Tobago. We have a serious parking problem in Port of Spain. (The fete organisers) asked since last year. About 75 vehicles were wrecked in the vicinity of the park.”
Lee Sing: Let Saints patrons park at St Mary's
Former Port of Spain mayor Louis Lee Sing said yesterday that St Mary's College should make its grounds available to fete patrons.
He said: “People know they could not park there before. I told them they could not park (at Mandela Park). I have nothing against St Mary's College. But why can't they give their grounds for parking as Queen's Royal College does? St Mary's College's position is clear—you can't park on the field. This decision stinks to high heaven. While democracy is a strong thing, it is also a weak thing. You will have faulty decisions which result in people suffering. I hope Tim Kee would allow good sense to prevail and he would not proceed. Nelson Mandela Park is a recreational space. We have spent millions of dollars re-engineering Nelson Mandela Park. It is wrong. Do the right thing because it's the right thing to do.”
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160114/news/tim-kee-no-parking-at-nelson-mandela-park-if-it-rains
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No love for Tim Kee at PoS march: Stop victim shaming
By Anna-Lisa Paul (Guardian).
Tensions ran high yesterday, as human rights activists and concerned citizens converged on Woodford Square, Port-of-Spain, to publicly demonstrate their support for the call to remove Port-of-Spain Mayor Raymond Tim Kee over his comment on the death of Japanese musician Asami Nagakiya.
However, they were forced to acknowledge the presence of activists Juliet Davies and Melba Boxill, who ensured their voices were also heard, as they accused the media of misrepresenting Tim Kee's comments.
The lunchtime protest, which was first announced via social media, attracted a wide range of people from across society, including former justice minister Christlyn Moore, national award recipient Du-Marouis Horsley, attorneys, business owners, civil servants, visiting Japanese media and representatives of other foreign news agencies.
Although women were urged to don their Carnival costumes and attend the peaceful protest, only a handful of them heeded this call from the group led by Angelique Nixon and Atilah Springer.
Observing a minute of silence prior to addressing the crowd gathered at the bandstand, a teary-eyed Springer stressed that the event had been organised on behalf of not just Nagakiya but all the victims who had lost their lives through an act of violence.
The call for Tim Kee’s removal followed a press conference on Wednesday afternoon, when he made statements alluding to the dress and conduct of women at Carnival time as he spoke about the death of Nagakiya, whose lifeless body was found clad in a costume and buried under some leaves under a tree at the Queen's Park Savannah on Wednesday morning.
Referring to Tim Kee’s comments as “victim shaming”, Springer said there was an immediate need for local and regional authorities to work together to erase the culture of insensitivity that continues to pervade all levels of society. She said the time had come for gender sensitivity training to be introduced into the education system, police and public service.
Springer said everyone, especially women, needed to learn “that licks is not acceptable.” She said this was a remnant left over from the days of slavery and indentureship, and it was time to ensure that men and boys were taught not to rape or abuse women. Similar sentiments were expressed by Angelique Nixon, who urged the Government to listen to the people and act on their request to remove Tim Kee from office.
Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley weighed in on the matter on Thursday, when he announced that the mayor’s controversial comments did not warrant his dismissal.
But Nixon invited those present to “resist the way in which the mayor of Port-of-Spain has chosen to deal with this issue”.Minutes after a four-paragraph letter condemning the practice of victim shaming and demanding Tim Kee's removal was read out to the gathering, a handful of senior police officials escorted Springer, Nixon and several other people to the mayor’s City Hall office where it was handed over to the mayor’s secretary.
Under the watchful eyes of the dozens of police officers who were posted throughout the square and at the front of City Hall, the protesters were allowed to walk along the pavement whilst holding aloft the placards and signs conveying their disgust and dissatisfaction over Tim Kee's statements. Over in the United Kingdom, Trinidadian nationals held a similar protest outside the T&T High Commission in Britain.
They too delivered a letter in which they knocked Tim Kee over his statement and called for his removal. Also present yesterday in a figure-hugging white dress was former justice minister Christlyn Moore, who also condemned the mayor’s comments as she said, “It is not the job of any man and certainly not the mayor to police women's bodies. That is totally unacceptable.”
Saying that she had carefully selected her outfit so as to ensure it would not end with her being abused or raped, Moore described Tim Kee as a “frightening man.” She went further to say that it could be construed from his statements that alcohol and music were a dangerous mix for women only—and in that instance, he, being a public official elected to serve the people, had neglected to say how he would protect women from such risks.
Asked if she thought the reintroduction of a ministry of gender could assist in eradicating any such future incidents that drew the public's ire, Moore agreed it was a “fantastic idea.”
However, she added, “The entire Government needs a gender policy.” Several of the Japanese media present yesterday revealed that they had only arrived in the country on Thursday night, as they sought to piece together the last hours of Nagakiya’s life.
One cameraman said: “Her death has been a kind of a big impact because she loved here (Trinidad).” He explained that in her home town of Sapporo, which is on the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido, Nagakiya’s death was “a very sad thing.”
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Condolences to Asami's family, friends and her steelband buddies. At least RTK could have express condolences to her family. But I will wait before ah say anything further.
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He will resign today according to TV6 on twitter :beermug:
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BREAKING: Port of Spain Mayor Raymond Tim Kee to resign at emergency meeting of Port of Spain City Council on Monday. Details to come...
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Not the best of months for RTK, but also a rather infrequent occurrence that an officeholder in Trinidad & Tobago demits office with the responsibility indicated in that media release. In that respect, kudos to RTK even if political pressure came to bear behind the scenes.
It seems that Dr. Rowley might have been better off without comment at that moment in time. Mr. PM, it is better to accumulate political capital rather than to squander it.
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Tim Kee to resign
Rhonda Krystal Rambally, Sascha Wilson & Shaliza Hassanali
T&T Guardian
Port-of-Spain Mayor Raymond Tim Kee is expected to tender his resignation tomorrow.
His decision comes one day after scores of concerned citizens and human rights activists staged a protest at Woodford Square in Port-of-Spain, calling for him to resign over comments he made on the discovery of Japanese pannist Asami Nagakiya’s body at the Queen’s Park Savannah on Wednesday.
In a statement issued yesterday on the Port-of-Spain City Corporation letterhead, Tim Kee stated that he noted the continued outrage and hurt over statements attributed to him.
He said he deeply regretted the consequences of the statements and apologised unreservedly to those who had been affected.
On Wednesday during a news conference at City Hall, the mayor was questioned about the discovery of an unidentified female masquerader. Later that night she was identified by police as Nagakiya.
Tim Kee’s response to reporters at the news conference was that women did not need to behave in a vulgar and lewd manner to enjoy themselves during Carnival.
He said, “I spoke of some of the things that I see women do, assisted by men, of course, but the woman has the responsibility that they ensure that they are not abused. You can enjoy Carnival without going through that routine.”
Tim Kee added that women needed to maintain a level of dignity during Carnival festivities.
Following his statements which created outrage on social media and among different civil society groups, Tim Kee issued a statement on Thursday apologising, saying his statements were taken out of context.
But it’s not the first time the mayor has made such remarks about women’s behaviour during Carnival.
In 2014, speaking to reporters at the Downtown Carnival judging point in South Quay, the mayor said, “I see some women do some things with some men—nothing for the imagination, you can’t do that.”
He said he felt that some of the costumes he had seen then were “unacceptable—almost like a beach party on the street. I hate to say this, some women just don’t care.”
Calls on Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley for Tim Kee to resign fell on deaf ears as the PM said the controversial remarks did not warrant a dismissal.
Rowley said Tim Kee may have “misspoken” and his People’s National Movement Government (PNM) did not support victim blaming.
WomanTra TT started a petition on Wednesday calling for Tim Kee’s resignation and up to last night the petition had reached over 10,000 signatures.
Tim Kee is also the treasurer of the PNM.
In November 2013 he was elected unopposed as mayor. He was also the president of the T&T Football Association, but was voted out last November.
When Sunday Guardian contacted Tim Kee yesterday he said his resignation statement had been issued to all media houses and that he would be engaged in a meeting that would last an hour.
He asked that the newspaper call him back but several calls thereafter went unanswered.
Tim Kee: I respect women
In the 12-line release, Tim Kee said, “I consider the reaction has been sufficient to cause damage to the Office of the Mayor of Port of Spain, which any holder of this office should be concerned to protect at all costs. It is in these circumstances, why I intend to call an emergency meeting of Council, and tender my resignation as Mayor, and as an Alderman.”
He added that it was important for him to point out as a citizen of T&T, a man and a father, he reiterated his unreserved respect for women, and in fact for all people, regardless of their race, gender or religion.
“It is hoped that with this decision, the Office of the Mayor is now protected, my unreserved apology accepted by my fellow citizens, and that the focus can now be placed fully on solving the murder of a visitor to our shores,” Tim Kee wrote.
It does not rise to the level of resignation—Cuffie
Communications Minister Maxie Cuffie, when contacted last night, referred all questions to Rural Development and Local Government Minister Franklin Khan, who is also chairman of the PNM.
However, calls to Khan’s cellphone went unanswered.
Earlier in the day, Cuffie told reporters during a walkabout in La Horquetta that Government had no intention of removing Tim Kee from office. Cuffie referred to Rowley’s earlier comments on the issue, saying that while Tim Kee’s statements were unfortunate, they did not warrant his removal from office.
“It (Tim Kee’s comments) does not rise to the level of resignation and I wouldn’t want to go further than that,” Cuffie said of the government’s position.
Rowley did not respond to a message sent by the Sunday Guardian last night.
AG: Tim Kee is a compassionate man
Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi publicly commended Tim Kee for acting as quickly as he did in offering his resignation.
Asked by reporters at the scene of a business fire at High Street, San Fernando, last night to comment on the situation, Al-Rawi said, “I think that Mayor Tim Kee is a man who knows very well what public sentiment looks like. It is a very unfortunate incident. I mean the death of the Japanese national...a woman who loved T&T is certainly a great tragedy for this nation.”
Al-Rawi said he knew Tim Kee personally and that he was a very compassionate man.
“There is no excuse or holding water in your mouth in relation to the statements that were put in the media.
“I am not saying what he ought to do or ought not to do, but what I can tell you is that public sentiment is real and I give Mayor Tim Kee a serious public commendation for acting as quickly as he had in this manner.”
Persad-Bissessar: Victory of the people
In response to Tim Kee’s intention to resign, Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar yesterday hailed civil society groups and associated individuals who, after days of activism, compelled the mayor to offer, albeit belatedly, an unequivocal apology for his reckless and offensive comments.
“This is a true victory of the people and I heartily commend the principled men and women who took up this struggle and spoke out against Mr Tim Kee’s vile sentiments, for their courage, perseverance and commitment,” Persad-Bissessar said.
She added that it served as a lesson to Rowley and his Government that they cannot callously dismiss the voice of the people, “since true power lies in the collective will of the citizens of this great nation.”
Lee Sing: PNM placing burden of responsibility on PoS council
In a Facebook post at 6.27 pm, former mayor Louis Lee Sing said, “The Mayor’s resignation letter I have read closely and on the surface I hold the view the PNM is once again placing its ‘burden of responsibility,’ on the laps of its Port-of-Spain Council.
“Let's think this out!
“The Mayor convenes his meeting and members (all PNM) are given the offer of resignation, but prior to the meeting Council Members are instructed NOT to accept the resignation. The Mayor stays and the responsibility for the mayor remaining in office becomes the hot potato of members of Council!
“In such a scenario the PM and Mayor are relieved of their burden of responsibility and Democracy suffers a mighty blow!
“I am hopeful on this occasion the PNM will remember the importance of the will of the people!”
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This is interesting read.
Women’s groups misguided in call to fire mayor
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160213/letters/women8217s-groups-misguided-in-call-to-fire-mayor
Here is the Point Fortin Mayor take..
http://www.cnc3.co.tt/news/point-fortin-mayor-they-are-hypocrites
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From the movie Comancheros: "Transgress, and you die."
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TIM KEE GONE*
...POS Mayor resigns one week after 'vulgar women' statement
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160216/news/tim-kee-gone
JUST call him “Ray” from now on.
This was the request, according to one local government councillor, made of the staff and officials of the Port of Spain City Corporation after Port of Spain Mayor Raymond Tim Kee tendered his resignation to the chief executive officer of the corporation yesterday.
In accordance with the Municipal Corporations Act, Deputy Mayor Keron Valentine is now set to accept the mayoral chain today, to become custodian of the capital city at age 31.
Valentine, in an interview with the media outside City Hall yesterday evening, said Tim Kee tendered his resignation around 3 p.m. yesterday, following which he held court with his former officers to exchange pleasantries and discuss the future of some of the development projects started under him (Tim Kee).
Valentine said the yesterday's convention was not to facilitate a position on the resignation from the council.
Asked the reasons offered by Tim Kee for the resignation, Valentine said the former mayor “did not go into that”
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Unnecessary. Whether we like him or not making that statement did not rise to a level of removal or resignation.
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Unnecessary. Whether we like him or not making that statement did not rise to a level of removal or resignation.
:beermug: but I remember Al Capone made jail for tax evasion.
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Unnecessary. Whether we like him or not making that statement did not rise to a level of removal or resignation.
:beermug: but I remember Al Capone made jail for tax evasion.
Al is not the only one to feel the wrath of the IRS for evading taxes.
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Unnecessary. Whether we like him or not making that statement did not rise to a level of removal or resignation.
The majority has spoken and that speaks for something.
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Unnecessary. Whether we like him or not making that statement did not rise to a level of removal or resignation.
The majority has spoken and that speaks for something.
not true mate. there was a bunch of manginas and some tank top wearing lesbos out there pounding the pavement and shouting. some majority.
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Unnecessary. Whether we like him or not making that statement did not rise to a level of removal or resignation.
The majority has spoken and that speaks for something.
Yuh mad ah wha?!!! What Majority would that be? Was there 900, 000+ people calling for his dismissal? How many came out to protest?
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Unnecessary. Whether we like him or not making that statement did not rise to a level of removal or resignation.
The majority has spoken and that speaks for something.
Yuh mad ah wha?!!! What Majority would that be? Was there 900, 000+ people calling for his dismissal? How many came out to protest?
This Mayor position is an appointed one unlike other countries where mayors are elected. The power of the purse is marginal, depending on which party in power. He can't tax the residence of POS in order to raise money. So he has no real power. Whether lesbos, etc were protesting is beside the point. He got blind sided for being frank with his opinion. I think much more people agree with him than the protesters. But they feel it is a waste of time trying counter-protest. There are more pressing issues to fight over, other than a man appointed to a ceremonial position.
Again, it is sad that this young woman lost her life at Carnival. We don't know how. Everybody just speculating. It is equaling sad that the mayor did not, in the beginning of his speech, pay condolences to Akami and her family. That was the least he could have done. Should he resign or be fired. In my opinion. No!. But the PNM felt this situation would damage their standings, so they took the precaution to remove RTK from the position before the situation get outa hand.
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Unnecessary. Whether we like him or not making that statement did not rise to a level of removal or resignation.
The majority has spoken and that speaks for something.
Yuh mad ah wha?!!! What Majority would that be? Was there 900, 000+ people calling for his dismissal? How many came out to protest?
This Mayor position is an appointed one unlike other countries where mayors are elected. The power of the purse is marginal, depending on which party in power. He can't tax the residence of POS in order to raise money. So he has no real power. Whether lesbos, etc were protesting is beside the point. He got blind sided for being frank with his opinion. I think much more people agree with him than the protesters. But they feel it is a waste of time trying counter-protest. There are more pressing issues to fight over, other than a man appointed to a ceremonial position.
Again, it is sad that this young woman lost her life at Carnival. We don't know how. Everybody just speculating. It is equaling sad that the mayor did not, in the beginning of his speech, pay condolences to Akami and her family. That was the least he could have done. Should he resign or be fired. In my opinion. No!. But the PNM felt this situation would damage their standings, so they took the precaution to remove RTK from the position before the situation get outa hand.
I know is by appointment and what many don't realize is that the PM cannot even unilaterally remove him. I agree that he mishandled the situation in what he chose to say and the apparent lack of sensitivity. However I will continue to maintain that what he said hardly rose to a level that required dismissal/ removal/ resignation. It's amazing how our people are able to pick and choose battles so arbitrarily and conveniently turn a blind eye or are passive in the face of such unfettered corruption as we saw in the last administration.
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what he said hardly rose to a level that required dismissal/ removal/ resignation. It's amazing how our people are able to pick and choose battles so arbitrarily and conveniently turn a blind eye or are passive in the face of such unfettered corruption as we saw in the last
I too agree, that what he said did not warrant termination. But it was insensitive.
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True lies and folly workers happy like pappy
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Interview with Tim-Kee about his motivations, thinking and strategy behind his Presidency as well as thoughts about the current state of the game. Good stuff about how he found Stephen Hart.
https://youtube.com/v/agLVPI_yjsE
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Interview with Tim-Kee about his motivations, thinking and strategy behind his Presidency as well as thoughts about the current state of the game. Good stuff about how he found Stephen Hart.
https://youtube.com/v/agLVPI_yjsE
the interview was ok yet very insightful but nothing we didn't know about or at least speculated about here on the forum. the interviewers seem to be more inquisitive about DJW bad moves than more of the pressing issues that face football particularly the development programs that was sidelined, i was hoping to hear more questions asked regarding that area rather than those that were asked.
one of the main questions i would have liked to have been asked was if mr timkee had any intentions of returning to football or was planning on making a come back as president in the next elections, but of course the DJW fiasco was more of a juicy bone to be had. typical journalist response no doubt with the juicy nasty gossip which makes for better viewing.
on another note, what a class act mr timkee is. it was real saddening to see him go.
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Interview with Tim-Kee about his motivations, thinking and strategy behind his Presidency as well as thoughts about the current state of the game. Good stuff about how he found Stephen Hart.
https://youtube.com/v/agLVPI_yjsE
the interview was ok yet very insightful but nothing we didn't know about or at least speculated about here on the forum. the interviewers seem to be more inquisitive about DJW bad moves than more of the pressing issues that face football particularly the development programs that was sidelined, i was hoping to hear more questions asked regarding that area rather than those that were asked.
one of the main questions i would have liked to have been asked was if mr timkee had any intentions of returning to football or was planning on making a come back as president in the next elections, but of course the DJW fiasco was more of a juicy bone to be had. typical journalist response no doubt with the juicy nasty gossip which makes for better viewing.
on another note, what a class act mr timkee is. it was real saddening to see him go.
Don't be too hard on Steve he's just getting going and also very angry at DJW and just wants to rip him lol .
As for Raymond I still can believe ppl wanted him gone ,but now that he is ,for him to come back would mean to start over and rebuild all over again .Who ever voted him out have too live with their choice now .
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Interview with Tim-Kee about his motivations, thinking and strategy behind his Presidency as well as thoughts about the current state of the game. Good stuff about how he found Stephen Hart.
https://youtube.com/v/agLVPI_yjsE
the interview was ok yet very insightful but nothing we didn't know about or at least speculated about here on the forum. the interviewers seem to be more inquisitive about DJW bad moves than more of the pressing issues that face football particularly the development programs that was sidelined, i was hoping to hear more questions asked regarding that area rather than those that were asked.
one of the main questions i would have liked to have been asked was if mr timkee had any intentions of returning to football or was planning on making a come back as president in the next elections, but of course the DJW fiasco was more of a juicy bone to be had. typical journalist response no doubt with the juicy nasty gossip which makes for better viewing.
on another note, what a class act mr timkee is. it was real saddening to see him go.
Don't be too hard on Steve he's just getting going and also very angry at DJW and just wants to rip him lol .
As for Raymond I still can believe ppl wanted him gone ,but now that he is ,for him to come back would mean to start over and rebuild all over again .Who ever voted him out have too live with their choice now .
Raymond did a decent job but his partisan politics killed it, unc was playing the ass but pnm is also playing de ass and he did the same to Sancho when he was there..
Leo made the recommendation and it was a good one..
The question now remains can Tallest do as well or better than hart ...
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Former TTFA president Raymond Tim Kee dies
By Joel Bailey (T&T Newsday)
FOR THE second time this year, the local football community and T&T Football Association (TTFA) lost a former president as Raymond Tim Kee died on Saturday night.
On January 1 (New Year’s Day), Oliver Camps, under whom Tim Kee served as a vice-president, died at the St Clair Medical Centre.Tim Kee, who was TTFA president from November 2012 to November 2015, kept a low profile after he was replaced by David John-Williams as head of the local governing body.
In July, Tim Kee expressed his intention to run for president at the November 24 TTFA elections but, due to health reasons, he threw his support behind the United TTFA slate, led by William Wallace (who defeated John-Williams by 26 votes to 20). Offering condolences to Tim Kee’s family were the T&T Super League and the Futsal Association of T&T.
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Just got that msg and came on here to confirm. RIP Tim Kee, thank you for your contributions to the sport and in society.
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Just got that msg and came on here to confirm. RIP Tim Kee, thank you for your contributions to the sport and in society.
+1 even with the gaffes and missteps he oversaw one of the most productive periods in trini football on the field
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Former TTFA President Raymond Tim Kee has died
TTFA Media
The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association extends deepest condolences and sympathy to the family of our former President Raymond Tim Kee following his passing at age 71 early on the morning of Sunday December 8th, 2019 at his home in Port of Spain.
Raymond was kindhearted, devoted and committed to serving his country the best way he could. His commitment, intellect, sense of humor but above all the simple and straightforward manner of relating to all of us will be a lesson always on modesty and humility.
In all situations—whether on the public stage or away from the cameras—Raymond’s passion for life and sport, moreso football and his deep desire for a better world shone through. Raymond was known throughout local arenas not just for his inspirational eloquence but for his human warmth, who showed the skills of leadership and great determination.
His charisma was remarkable and there is no doubt but he was a formative influence on those around him. He always identified with those who were less fortunate, or those experiencing hardship, no matter where they came from—and he translated this into a forceful articulation of the need for those with power to do more. He was an efficient and competent corporate man. He was a true Warrior.
Despite their grief and pain, we hope that Raymond’s family and friends can see that his work has not ended with his passing—but that instead, that his spirit will live on in the daily acts of those whose lives he touched.
TTFA President William Wallace saluted the former President, saying “It is with great emotion and deep sadness that I learnt about his death early this morning. I salute the memory of an exceptional man who I knew as a voice of reason. Raymond was an excellent entrepreneur, friend and family man. His passing leaves a big void in our hearts. My heartfelt sympathy condolences to his entire family.”
Mr Tim Kee was elected President of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association in November, 2012 and served until November, 2015. Under his reign, the T&T Men’s Senior Team qualified for two CONCACAF Gold Cup quarter finals in 2013 and 2015 and finished second in two Caribbean Cup Finals, also advancing to the Hexagonal Final Round of 2018 World Cup qualifying The Senior Women’s Team also advanced to within one point of 2015 World Cup qualification, becoming champions of the Caribbean in 2014. Mr Tim Kee served on the FIFA Futsal committee during his tenure as President of the TTFA.
In August, 2015, Tim Kee stated, “Enlisting support for our national footballers is how I will be focusing my time, energy, and efforts, especially as we enter our Road To Russia Campaign. Now is the time to show our footballers and coaches the same level of commitment and teamwork they recently displayed on the field at the Gold Cup. Now is the time we must give our undivided and unequivocal support. Our footballers have earned that respect.”
Raymond Tim Kee
July 19th,1948-December 8th, 2019
In an immediate reaction to the news, former Trinidad and Tobago English Premiership goalkeeper Shaka Hislop stated, “I got to know Raymond Tim Kee during his time as the TTFA president. Though our paths were linked given his earlier time in football administration it was during his time as the TTFA president that I came to know the administrator, the man. Inheriting a thankless task he set about restoring dignity to the position. I found Tim Kee to be honest, forthright and honorable in every way, in each of our interactions.It is with a heavy heart I write this. I will always hold Raymond up as an example, remembering him as the person he proved he was to me.”
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"I have come to this Presidency with no grandiose perception of who I am and what I can do except to confess that my goal is to leave local football a little better than I have found it." --- Raymond Tim Kee
RIP.
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Wow this is an absolute shocker ....... To all who knew him personally foremost his family I extend deepest sympathy , may the almighty give you ( the timkee family ) strength and comfort . God bless to the timkee family !
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WOW, absolute shocker indeed. He did his best even though the tide was against him. I really can't find the words to express his going home, because I am really surprised. Thanks for your services to TT football especially at the crucial point when we going down the precipis. I would say you steadied the ship. RIP Mr. Tim Kee. God Bless!!!!
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Condolences to his family :beermug:
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Damn what a shock, condolences to his loved ones.
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Tim Kee’s funeral on Monday
By Joan Rampersad (T&T Newsday)
The funeral of the late Raymond Tim Kee takes place at St Theresa’s RC Church in Woodbrook at 10 am on Monday.
The former T&T Football Association (TTFA) president and Port of Spain mayor, died last Sunday at his Flagstaff home in St James. He had been ailing for some while.
His widow Natasha Babwah-Tim Kee said as the funeral programme is still being worked on, tentatively, her husband’s best friend will be one of the eulogists, as well as a member of the Tim Kee family.
Babwah-Tim Kee is expected to sing Ave Maria at the service. Pannist Len “Boogsie” Sharpe will play How Great Thou Art.
Another former football executive, Roland Forde, died on Tuesday night at the Westshore clinic in Cocorite. He was 77.
Forde, who served on the TTFA executive, was president of the Northern Football League for a number of years. He had a stroke last Wednesday. He was also a life member of the Harvard Club, and served as its treasurer for many years, as well as secretary from 2010-2017.
Forde’s death is the third to hit the football fraternity this year, the first being Oliver Camps, also a former president of the TTFA and a long-standing president of Harvard Club.
His widow Louise Forde told Newsday she is still in shock and can’t believe it.
She said Forde’s funeral will be held on December 20, at the Holy Trinity Cathedral in Port of Spain, at 9 am.
Apart from Louise, Forde leaves to mourn his two daughters Giselle Reid and Gina Lumwai, four grandchildren and four sisters. Patricia Barrow, Sybil Hogan, Jacqueline Thomas and Camille Parmassar.
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RIP to all!
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Tim Kee—a true statesman
By Colin Murray (T&T Guardian)
It was with a great degree of sadness when I heard of the passing of Raymond Tim Kee - someone who lived to help and develop T&T in any way possible.
I met Tim Kee many years ago when I was coaching football at Fatima College and his son was representing the school. He would come along to matches to support him and also give the school the kind of assistance a coach would look forward to from a parent - not interfering, but rather saying the right things and always full of encouragement for the team.
We always kept in touch; not regularly but whenever I saw him. We would talk for long periods about different topics but sport, particularly football, was his love and he always had a good sense of humour trying extremely hard to crack a joke somewhere during every conversation.
It was in 2012 when we crossed swords as he was nominated for the T&T Football Association (TTFA) presidency. Unknown to me, I had no idea that Raymond was to be a candidate, as I was approached by two zones to also run for the top football job in T&T. I naturally accepted at that point, as I felt I could make a contribution to the sport which has given me so much in years gone by. I saw it as a great opportunity to give back to the game and since the cricket fraternity chased many of us from their closed ranks, I knew the time to help football was then.
The amusing thing is that Raymond called me to say that he never knew I was going up or he would have not run for the post and he said to me (and I know he said it publicly as well): “The TTFA should have two presidents and it is a pity one of us has to lose.”
We remained friends even though we were going to fight against one another and I have never heard him one day say anything derogatory about me. Now, he may have, but it must have been behind closed doors. As it turned out, much to the annoyance of quite a few people, I eventually withdrew my nomination.
The first thing I did after informing the people who supported me, I called Raymond to congratulate him and wished him well. He had a difficult job because he had to please his supporters while trying to bring some stability to the TTFA. He was a gentleman and his real wish was to put T&T football back on the map.
He eventually grew proud of his achievements while at the helm of the TTFA. Qualifying for two Gold Cups after taking a bold step and employing Stephen Hart as the national coach; finishing second twice in two Caribbean Cup finals and the biggest one of all - getting the senior team to the ‘Hex’ - the final round of the 2018 FIFA World Cup qualification. He also built a great relationship with T&T’s women footballers as we lost to Ecuador in the final match and failed to qualify for the 2015 FIFA Women’s World Cup. The women also became Caribbean champions in 2014.
It was in the build-up to the 2015 TTFA elections that I met with Raymond, as he called me to his office downtown one Saturday as he had taken on another near mission impossible job of mayor of Port-of-Spain. I arrived at the mayor’s office at around 3 pm and some three hours later, Raymond and some other gentlemen had convinced me to run on his slate as first vice president.
I discussed with him the plan moving forward and how he intended to get voters on his side to guarantee a win. He was confident, as he felt his track record as president would speak volumes. I warned him from my experience that he needed to put in the groundwork. But he insisted that “performance beats old talk anytime” (no pun intended). As it turned out, the voters were not interested in performance and subsequently, his slate was defeated and sadly football in this country then proceeded to hit an all-time low. Every time we met he would express his disenchantment with the state of T&T football.
Fast forward to 2019, when he told me that he was joining with United TTFA and once he was successful in going up for the presidency, he wanted me to run with him again. Just how could I refuse Raymond Tim Kee? I suppose I am a glutton for punishment? He got very upset with me when he saw my name being linked with Lindsay Gillette and it took some convincing from me that I just attended a meeting and that was it.
I knew his health was deteriorating, as I last saw him three weeks ago at the Queen’s Park Cricket Club’s (QPCC) annual dinner where his wife, who is a tremendous singer, was performing and I always joked with him that her singing would soothe and calm his nerves.
Raymond Tim Kee was always immaculately dressed, he was honest and always seemed to have time for everyone and devoted his life to serving people. To his wife Natasha, his children and grandchildren, my heartfelt sympathy to you all. May he rest in peace.
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Condolences to our TTFA friends
BFA Media
President, Executive Board, and Management of the Barbados Football Association would like to extend our deepest condolences to the family friends and Trinidad & Tobago football fraternity on the passing of the former President of Trinidad-and-Tobago FA Raymond Tim Kee. May he rest in peace.
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CFU sends condolences on the passing of former TTFA President Raymond Tim Kee
CFU Media
Caribbean Football Union (CFU) President Randolph Harris has extended sincere condolences, on behalf of the Executive Committee and the membership of the regional organization, on the death of former TTFA President Mr. Raymond Tim Kee.
President Harris offered condolences to the wider TTFA family, Mr. Tim Kee’s family and friends and all who mourn his loss, saying the deceased, like many Caribbean administrators, gave yeoman service to football and, by extension, the community.
Mr. Tim Kee, who served as president of the TTFA from November 2012 to November 2015, died on Sunday, December 8, 2019 at the age of 71.
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Family, friends pay final respects to Tim Kee
By Ryan Hamilton-Davis (T&T Newsday)
Politicians, dignitaries and officials from various organisations mixed with family, friends and loved ones to pay final respects to Raymond Tim Kee, former mayor of Port of Spain and president of the T&T Football Association.
His funeral took place on Monday at the St Theresa's RC Church on Warren Street, Woodbrook.
All lauded him as a person of integrity, focus, discipline and, most of all, love. In fact, all who spoke at the funeral told the congregation of his mantra, "Love is the answer."
In his eulogy, Tim Kee was praised for the work he did in football and with several grassroots projects in otherwise neglected areas.
“Peter Aleong dubbed him the president of the grassroot operations” said Noel Conliffe in his eulogy. “There were many grassroot projects which he was involved in that were not publicised.
"I remember when he became president of the Rotary Club of Central PoS he had to give his presidential address and he spoke of 1 Corinthians, which said there was no greater way than love. He allowed this theme to formulate his life and work. You would often hear him say ‘Love is the answer’”
His daughters, Ramona and Taheera Tim Kee, described him as a loving father who inspired them both at different times in their lives.
Taheera told the congregation Tim Kee taught her that her complexion or gender were not hindrances and showed her by example always to strive to achieve that vision of the life one desires.
“With his perseverance, sacrifice and tenacity he made it happen and he inspired many along the way. As a father he was loving and affectionate but had high expectations of his children. He had a love for deep conversations. He was practical, rational and a realist. My dad was my protector and my biggest cheerleader and his passing will leave a hole in my life.”
His second daughter, Ramona, spoke of the causes he championed and his children.
“He worked countless hours, accepted less than he should have, whether it be respect, money or support, and he persevered in the way only he knew how – with integrity and dignity.”
Officiator Fr Emmanuel Pierre encouraged the congregation to live a life like Tim Kee, so that when they finally die, their passing will be a blessing.
“There is such a thing as a good death,” Pierre said. “We are responsible for the way we die. The feeling we get when someone dies is not based on whether a person died accidentally or naturally. Rather, it takes root in how that person lived and how that person related to life in general.
"If our spirits were loving, like Raymond Tim Kee, who decided to empower people, pursue greatness, building young people and nation-building, we will get a glimpse of his beauty while we travel this earth. Conversely if our spirits had been poor and petty and bitter our deaths will also be that.”
Tim Kee died on December 7.
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Family, friends pay final respects to Tim Kee
By Ryan Hamilton-Davis (T&T Newsday)
Politicians, dignitaries and officials from various organisations mixed with family, friends and loved ones to pay final respects to Raymond Tim Kee, former mayor of Port of Spain and president of the T&T Football Association.
His funeral took place on Monday at the St Theresa's RC Church on Warren Street, Woodbrook.
All lauded him as a person of integrity, focus, discipline and, most of all, love. In fact, all who spoke at the funeral told the congregation of his mantra, "Love is the answer."
In his eulogy, Tim Kee was praised for the work he did in football and with several grassroots projects in otherwise neglected areas.
“Peter Aleong dubbed him the president of the grassroot operations” said Noel Conliffe in his eulogy. “There were many grassroot projects which he was involved in that were not publicised.
"I remember when he became president of the Rotary Club of Central PoS he had to give his presidential address and he spoke of 1 Corinthians, which said there was no greater way than love. He allowed this theme to formulate his life and work. You would often hear him say ‘Love is the answer’”
His daughters, Ramona and Taheera Tim Kee, described him as a loving father who inspired them both at different times in their lives.
Taheera told the congregation Tim Kee taught her that her complexion or gender were not hindrances and showed her by example always to strive to achieve that vision of the life one desires.
“With his perseverance, sacrifice and tenacity he made it happen and he inspired many along the way. As a father he was loving and affectionate but had high expectations of his children. He had a love for deep conversations. He was practical, rational and a realist. My dad was my protector and my biggest cheerleader and his passing will leave a hole in my life.”
His second daughter, Ramona, spoke of the causes he championed and his children.
“He worked countless hours, accepted less than he should have, whether it be respect, money or support, and he persevered in the way only he knew how – with integrity and dignity.”
Officiator Fr Emmanuel Pierre encouraged the congregation to live a life like Tim Kee, so that when they finally die, their passing will be a blessing.
“There is such a thing as a good death,” Pierre said. “We are responsible for the way we die. The feeling we get when someone dies is not based on whether a person died accidentally or naturally. Rather, it takes root in how that person lived and how that person related to life in general.
"If our spirits were loving, like Raymond Tim Kee, who decided to empower people, pursue greatness, building young people and nation-building, we will get a glimpse of his beauty while we travel this earth. Conversely if our spirits had been poor and petty and bitter our deaths will also be that.”
Tim Kee died on December 7.
:salute: :(
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Tim Kee—A true friend to many.
By Brian Lewis (Guardian).
You have three types of friends—True friends, bandwagon friends and fair-weather friends. There is a difference between a truth-teller and a critic. A critic drags you down to make themselves feel superior and a truth-teller corrects and instructs out of a desire to see you be better.
Forgiveness doesn’t mean we forget what someone did to us or that we become best friends with them. Forgiveness is about making peace with your past so you can move forward into your future. If you cannot forgive you will allow bitterness and resentment to write your story. Leaders cannot afford to hate, as it gets in the way of strategy.
“No wheel moves without friction.” Those words were said by Raymond Tim Kee in our many conversations over the years. I knew Raymond as a colleague in the insurance industry and sport. I also knew him as a mentor but above all a friend who I fondly called “Big Brother.”
Raymond was a serious man who brightened our lives with his smile. He believed sport was integral to our culture and he transformed that belief into action. His service to the youth and young people through sport is immeasurable.
He regularly reminded me—A rising tide lifts all boats, the real power of sport lies in the hearts and minds of the youth and young people—the football players, the athletes, the sportsmen and women.
“Give people a fish and you feed them for a day, teach people to fish and feed them for a lifetime.”
We must teach people how to fish and then support them with everything we’ve got. Raymond believed in the power of seeing the best in people and that everyone deserved an opportunity. A leader’s duty, obligation and responsibility is to make things better for, in particular, the vulnerable and less fortunate.
He walked his talk. He brought to sport his distinctive insight that sport should be a force for good, making a positive difference and not a force for poor governance, corruption, abuse of office and to facilitate people with hidden and selfish agendas. He wasn’t afraid to fail. He gave extraordinary energy, time and ideas to sport and football in particular. Raymond sincerely believed that sports wasn’t only about sports politics but the larger forces that shape our society. When others may have chosen the easy option, become bitter and resentful, Raymond was resilient in the face of immense adversity and that regardless of how others may behave towards you, you can still have grace, dignity, forbearance and be a class act.
You didn’t break him in life. He looked ahead, remained focused and indomitable in doing what he believed needed to be done or had to be said, even if he would be misunderstood or mischaracterised. He was a truth-teller and true friend to sport, football and national life.
Raymond’s life is a song whose lyrics sing about what is possible if we continue each day to be inspired by his lifelong example to never cease working for a better, fairer and more just and equal T&T. Those of us who grieve his passing are left with the memories he gave, the good he did, the dreams he kept alive.
There are many things for which Raymond will be remembered but what we will never forget is his spirit of patriotism, kindness, forgiveness, compassion, respect for others, his love of family, his service, integrity and stewardship. Those attributes will live within us forever and continue to be a beacon of hope. Even though he has ceased to be with us physically, his spirit lives in our hearts and in our memory.
God bless you Raymond. We love you and we always will. Farewell warrior leader, till we meet again.
May you rest in eternal peace.
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Ray of will and purpose
By Shaun Fuentes (T&T Guardian)
We probably all have our personal examples of individuals who we admire. Whether it be leaders, priests, teachers, coaches or a neighbour, they all leave a mark on us. These certain individuals are role models for many of us during their and our lives. With some of them, for as long as we can remember, these people were always “around” us. And with some of these role models, we truly believe they are immortal. These legends will never die. For many people, Brian Lara or Sir VS Naipaul were such an inspiration. For others, it was the likes of Nelson Mandela or Mahatma Gandhi, or political leaders like Patrick Manning or Barack Obama.
And when these famous icons depart from this life, we read about them in the press or in books, we see videos on social media, watch special TV-items about their lives and achievements, view all the YouTube videos available and use their quotes endlessly to inspire others. For me, I take this opportunity today to mention of former TTFA president Raymond Tim Kee, who sadly passed away on December 8, 2019 at age 71. After writing this column, myself and the rest of the football family had to face the untimely death of national forward Shahdon Winchester.
Like Tim Kee, Winchester was a very warm and social human being. Tim Kee’s humility, kindness, respect, passion and invaluable insight will remain part of his legacy. He was not afraid to take decisions and made bold steps to try and revive the fortunes of our football after we had entered a dim period following the success of the 2006 World Cup qualification.
For Winchester, his persistence to make it to the top was admirable. His hattrick against Haiti in 2017 I will never forget and I’m sure Warren Archibald and the rest of the T&T 1973 Squad would be proud of that performance in Couva.
From 2007 to 2012, we struggled to reciprocate any kind of success and our football became embroiled in controversy. What followed between 2012-2015, and I challenge anyone to object to this, was undoubtedly a solid period for our football on the international stage, clearly much better than what we witnessed post 2015 to present. Qualifying for the Gold Cup in 2013 and making it to the quarterfinals for the first time since 2000, achieving this feat again in 2015, reaching two consecutive Caribbean Cup finals, our women’s team winning the Caribbean Championship and reaching to within a point of World Cup qualification, our Under-20 men’s team winning the Caribbean championship and qualifying for the CONCACAF championship and our Under-17 men getting to within a victory of World Cup qualification in 2013. The crowds were returning to the stadiums.
Was it all smooth sailing? Certainly not, but it was a period where we were catching ourselves again. The then-TTFA boss believed in those around him and was confident enough to pass on responsibilities without micromanaging. I recall during the 2013 CONCACAF U-17 Championship in Panama, I had checked into the team hotel with the T&T under-17s and we were staying at the same location of the Canadian team. A gentleman by the name of Stephen Hart was also in camp with the Canadians. Tim Kee found this out as by that time, Hart’s name was already popping up among candidates for the T&T coaching job. I had one simple task and that was to approach Hart and set up a meeting with Tim Kee at the hotel he was staying a few minutes away. The rest of that story is history.
You get grades or marks for English, Social Studies, Science and Math and receive medals, trophies and accolades for success in sport, but often little is mentioned of one’s character. I often wonder what this means for our children, especially when research confirms the correlation between character and success.
We are unified only in our cynicism, as it seems that there are fewer people and institutions our children can look up to and count on to consistently do the right thing. Role models play a critical part in character development. If children have fewer strong role models, are we reducing the chances of raising a generation who will do the right thing when others aren’t looking? We can never have too many role models such as Tim Kee, Manning, Mother Teresa, Lara, Ato Boldon or the teacher who spotted your ability to entertain an audience in comedy or song rather than speak a different language. I read where inspiration pulls you towards something that stirs your heart, mind, or spirit. We are inspired by a person, an event, or a circumstance.
Here’s to meeting, knowing and working with more individuals with this kind of ability in 2020.
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Kudos to you Shaun. Well said.