Soca Warriors Online Discussion Forum
Sports => Football => Topic started by: Flex on June 11, 2015, 06:15:07 AM
-
T&T football in the middle of a political meltdown.
By Inshan Mohammed.
A political mischief
In what can be considered by many locals in T&T to be a ‘papi show’, the current war of words between the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association President, Raymond Tim Kee and the Minister of Sports, Brent Sancho falls just short of the embarrassment experience when U.S. based British comedian John Oliver expressed his views about the alleged corrupt king pin Jack Warner in a 5 minute TV block on local Television.
Tim Kee was reported saying in the T&T Express newspaper, "The Football Association has declared that money which Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar committed to fund Trinidad and Tobago's participation in the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup, has amounted to just promises thus far."
He further went on to say, "But, Sport Minister Brent Sancho counters that the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) had already used up 90 percent of a $9 million Cabinet note, which the Prime Minister and then acting Sport Minister Rupert Griffith promised last November to assist football up to the Gold Cup."
Imagine no one can answer where the 9 million has gone or how it was spent, an act even David Copperfield himself would have found hard to pull-off. This news baffled many Soca Warriors Online (SWO) supporters including myself and I instantly began to do a little research while giving both men a chance to come clean and cease with the bashing and thrashing of our beloved sport. A sport that has been at the muddled in controversy since the beginning of time under former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner.
Anyone who follows soccer will know the latest FIFA controversy that involves former TTFF advisor Jack Warner is undoubtedly painting a bad image of Trinidad and Tobago. This is nothing new though, as many of T&T’s politicians engage in similar underhand practices. The current government are probably the most corrupt in T&T's history. LifeSport programme alone managed to embezzle $34 million from right under the noses of the T&T government. The single biggest payment of the programme for no work. T&T is a country now rife with corruption where national sports programs are used as vessels through which millions can be embezzled without consequences.
As a result of said corruption, the TTFA is now broke and national teams are usually sent out to tournaments under-prepared. Rumor also has it that even players have to use their credit cards to cover hotel accommodation expenses at times.
As if T&T football hadn't suffered enough, now the leaders of the TTFA and the Minister of Sports Brent Sancho are constantly locked in battle over funding, while using our football as a political tool to achieve the upper hand.
Mr. Sancho is a People Partnership (PP) representative while Raymond Tim Kee is a member of the opposing People National Movement (PNM) party and is also the current mayor of Port of Spain. By these circumstances one can easily deduce that the influence of politics negatively impacts the national football program, leaving the players, coaches and fans to suffer the most; while making sponsorship money hard to come by.
With regard to the present conflict, Sancho is insisting that the TTFA had gotten most of what was promised, but he does not rule out the possibility of giving them further assistance. “There was a cabinet note for $9 million dollars,” Sancho admitted to the T&T Express. “Ninety percent of it has already been used up. The Cabinet note was specific for salaries, arrears of salaries, and a range of specific things that related to the Cabinet note. They have used up the majority of it. Moving forward, they will have to decide how they will move things forward.”
Both parties also differ on whether the TTFA had met Sancho's criteria for providing audited accounts before further funds are released for football. Tim Kee insists that the TTFA had done so within the time-frame set to provide audited accounts, while Sancho says it was not completed. What is interesting however, is apparently Minister Sancho laid conditions on payments that are to be made to the TTFA after former Minister of Sport Mr. Rupert Griffith and his cabinet had already approved the release of funds.
No one really knows the daily operations of the TTFA and how the organization acquire funds to host tournaments and play one or two friendly games; and because of this one must give the Association some credit, as they have been flipping backwards to keep T&T’s national football program afloat.
The TTFA is also in the process of erecting a training facility in south Trinidad and again, this project is hit by another hiccup as they are waiting on the government to release the land on which the facility is to be built. In 2014 the TTFA had allocated a sum of US$500,000 by FIFA to get the project off the ground and it was expected to be complete by April 2015. A year later the project is at a stand still and may be cancelled.
Players and coaches are also frustrated with the current situation. Promises have been made and broken and some staff including players are yet to get paid since T&T’s last participation in the Caribbean Cup. Coaches and technical director positions seem to be recycled or just appointed without a proper selection process and to top that off there is no fixed schedule for teams to follow.
To make matter worse, Mr. Tim Kee has also been very reluctant in dealing with the public. He does not take the time to greet and thank supporters.
Only recently the TTFA president resurfaced and came to the defence of his former boss FIFA vice-president Jack Warner for standing up for this nation’s football interests during his tenure as both CONCACAF and Caribbean Football Union (CFU). Tim Kee further stated that he wants to stay in T&T football for 4 more years despite the financial hardship it endures.
The TTFA also operates silently, a trait that was prevalent in the previous administration and one that can be viewed as a major reason for mistrust from those looking in. Whatever the reason for continuing with this practice, it is affecting the game and T&T could plunge to lower depths if things don't change quickly.
Minister Sancho, a former T&T national defender is investing $1.7 million dollars on Women’s Premier League (WPL) which is schedule to start on June 19 to July 31. It is not a professional league but an international tournament comprising of national, club and college athletes from Trinidad and Tobago, the Caribbean, the Americas and England. Thus far, players from USA, Canada, Guyana and the Caribbean have already touched down for meetings ahead of the campaign. Sancho mentioned that the WPL is to develop female players and he has shown clear interests in assisting where support from the TTFA has been lacking. It should be noted though that the funding for this program is alleged to be sourced from the initial 9 million dollars that was allocated by the Government under former Minister Griffith.
Imagine how much $1.7 million dollars would have benefitted the national Women's programme. Even spending it to improve the Women’s League Football (WoLF) by improving the teams and for over a longer period of time but everyone seems to have their own agenda. So basically the Ministry of Sports is spending $1.7 million to host a mini 1 1/2-month tournament when that same money could have gotten our Women's teams (youth and senior) a series of international friendlies. In related news, on Tuesday the T&T Senior Women Warriors thrashed a WPL All-Star XI 9-2.
Sancho, who once owned Central FC has taken his share of licks as a national player and club owner. He has been blacklisted during the World Cup Warrior impasse and the club he owned was one of a few that did not get any financial support from former Minister of Sports Anil Roberts under the PP government, while other clubs linked to Roberts such as Malabar FC were pocketing in the thousands every month.
Interestingly, State owned enterprises like; Petrotrin, NP, TSTT and the National Gas Company (NGC) contributes massive amount of cash to cricket while football is totally ignored and gets absolutely nothing. For example, in 2014 National Gas Company of Trinidad and Tobago contributed over $13 million to facilitate cricket tournaments, development programmes and financial support to national teams at various levels. However, should the PNM win the next election, the table can surely turn into Tim Kee's favor, hence the reason he wants to serve another 4-year term.
It also seems to many observers that the Football Association is stuck and has no idea how to be more self-sufficient and as a result the FA gets beaten up like a step-child. The T&T government also appears to care less, hence the reason they went ahead and created a Women Premier League (WPL) without the blessings of the TTFA. It's a competition to outshine the other.
A member of the TTFA declined to make any comments and this appears to be the usual stance of the cash-strapped Association, as they stay in the background expecting others to fight their battles. Minister Sancho however was eager and ready to give his take on the matter, but soon disappeared and never bothered to follow up on his promise. I was told he is in senate and has been for the past 3-days.
At this point though, T&T football seems like a game of chess, where there are two opponents battling it out for the sake of power while the game, players, coaches and fans can be viewed as pawns frequently sacrificed for one side to gain an advantage.
Here is hoping, praying and begging that all said parties can put their differences aside for the good of the game or at least for the remainder of the year and save our beautiful game before it's to late.
-
Get rid of them all...
That is the only way flex... They are all jokers filling their pockets.. Sancho refuse my interview and Tim kee refuse to talk to sw.net
Because they are both corrupt.
-
What a bunch of preposterous individuals.
And Sancho is proving to be a let down time and time again.
I heard he wants Kelvin Jack and Terry Fenwick there.
Can't believe he will suffer our footballers and supports.
He is also trying his best to influence Kenwyne and Maylee to backstab the TTFA.
As for Tim Kee, I hope PNM loses election and you go once and for all.
I giving Stephen Hart until the end of the year before he leaves.
No one deserve to be working under such unprofessional enviorment.
And Kevin is here preaching this and that.
-
Good frigging article Flex., Love it.
I guess senate does not close and Sancho was working over time.
I can't stand Sancho, I really thought he would have done well, honestly and I am here swallowing what FS saying on the forum.
Tim Kee is another trip.
The TTFA don't have the balls to fight or survive.
-
What a bunch of preposterous individuals.
And Sancho is proving to be a let down time and time again.
I heard he wants Kelvin Jack and Terry Fenwick there.
Can't believe he will suffer our footballers and supports.
He is also trying his best to influence Kenwyne and Maylee to backstab the TTFA.
As for Tim Kee, I hope PNM loses election and you go once and for all.
I giving Stephen Hart until the end of the year before he leaves.
No one deserve to be working under such unprofessional enviorment.
And Kevin is here preaching this and that.
I hope you realize that if PNM looses the election then yuh stuck with Sancho.
-
Good frigging article Flex., Love it.
I guess senate does not close and Sancho was working over time.
I can't stand Sancho, I really thought he would have done well, honestly and I am here swallowing what FS saying on the forum.
Tim Kee is another trip.
The TTFA don't have the balls to fight or survive.
You can never have good intentions if you join this government.
-
Meanwhile $$$ flow like rain through Lifesport, Hoop of Life, WPL, Cricket etc
We lost 1-0 to Mexico in the Qtrs last time... we could go further this time. All the money spent was on arrears is not like we went on ten tours this year... if MoS committed to fund through the Gold Cup whether it was Griffith or not, they should honour the agreement. Especially if MoS is paying salaries directly. If they are funding a TTFA bank account as they request it then yes more oversight is needed.
-
Meanwhile $$$ flow like rain through Lifesport, Hoop of Life, WPL, Cricket etc
We lost 1-0 to Mexico in the Qtrs last time... we could go further this time. All the money spent was on arrears is not like we went on ten tours this year... if MoS committed to fund through the Gold Cup whether it was Griffith or not, they should honour the agreement. Especially if MoS is paying salaries directly. If they are funding a TTFA bank account as they request it then yes more oversight is needed.
dais all, I know this is a normal thing when funding anything with a degree of risk or suspicion, I not buyin into the tripe FS tryin to feed we............a level of gov't oversight is very well possible under the circumstances, doh study dem
-
why de hell these men doh go back to kindergarten, then it will be understandable. What a bunch of a$$holes.
-
The crisis in FIFA should filter down here - The drive needs to be on institutional changes that will improve the quality of the TTFA regardless of who's running it and which party is in power. For all the god-awful faults of FIFA - this is one of the reasons there's political neutrality demanded of their Football Associations. As soon as Tim Kee came in I pointed out that taking both roles seemed incompatible with the demands of the jobs, but now it's coming to a head. South Africa are going through the same situation now with a mayor being elected - I don't think it's a coincidence that the requirement to be politically neutral is being ignored in both countries.
Transparency is key - sunlight is the best disinfectant.
-
It should be noted though that the funding for this program [WPL] is alleged to be sourced from the initial 9 million dollars that was allocated by the Government under former Minister Griffith.
It would be helpful to have a clear, categorical, and precise statement on this matter.
-
It should be noted though that the funding for this program [WPL] is alleged to be sourced from the initial 9 million dollars that was allocated by the Government under former Minister Griffith.
It would be helpful to have a clear, categorical, and precise statement on this matter.
Aren't these things published on a govt site somewhere? anyone have links?
-
It should be noted though that the funding for this program [WPL] is alleged to be sourced from the initial 9 million dollars that was allocated by the Government under former Minister Griffith.
It would be helpful to have a clear, categorical, and precise statement on this matter.
you really expect them to be transparent??? right now we are trying to figure who is lying to us and what is fact from fiction...
-
why de PM move a more mature man like Griffith and put a.......... ok i wouldn't go any further. Is just that men who say they love de sport will bring it down to the ground for their own gain.
-
"The current government are probably the most corrupt in T&T's history".
WOW!!!!! Food for thought!
-
Senior team mgr is still waiting in the parking lot of sportt for the check for Jordan trip.
-
Worst Sport Minister ever; Sancho and Tim Kee clash while Warriors in uproar
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)
Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president Raymond Tim Kee has described Senator Brent Sancho as “the worst Sport Minister ever” as the relationship between the two bodies appears to now be at breaking point.
The senior “Soca Warriors” are due to leave for Jordan this evening but have still not received funding for two nights accommodation in London. And the National Under-23 Team has still not received money for international practice games, a training camp or even visas to fly to Puerto Rico for the preliminary 2016 Olympic qualifying round, which kicks off on June 19.
Tim Kee told Wired868 that he clashed with Sancho last week after various funding issues including the Sport Minister’s declaration that the Government would only pay half of the players’ match fees leading up to the July 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup.
Tim Kee, who is also the Port of Spain Mayor and PNM treasurer, insisted that Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar’s $9 million Cabinet note, last December, guaranteed funding for the Senior National Team straight up to the Gold Cup tournament.
While Sancho retorted that 70 percent of the $9 million was spent on paying TTFA arrears to its coaches and players.
“I told him you would go down in history as being the worst Minister of Sport we ever had,” said Tim Kee, as he discussed his fiery meeting with Sancho last week. “So you would have to tell the players they are only getting half of their match fees. (Sancho) said that is my job not his job.
“I told him the Government has to support the National Team. He said he doesn’t know about that and his shoulders are broad and he can deal with that.
“I said my shoulders are broad too but the difference between you and I is you are a politician and I am not.”
Sancho offered a similarly abrasive response.
“I am not getting into a verbal joust with a renowned incompetent administrator,” Sancho told Wired868. “At the end of the day, it is the players who will suffer. He needs to stop playing politics with the sport.”
The Warriors coaches, players and officials are already suffering.
Just hours before their flight to Jordan via London, which leaves at 7.40 pm on June 11, Warriors manager William Wallace said he still does not know if the team will get the necessary funds to travel.
“It is 11.16 am and I am driving into Port of Spain where a cheque is supposed to be done,” said Wallace, who is also a Carapichaima East school teacher. “I am not sure what time that is going to be finished, so I will have to park up somewhere and wait.
“Then, I have to take (the cheque) to a bank and get it changed, load (the money) on to a credit card for me to use when I get to England and get home (in Chaguanas) to change to get to the airport at 5 pm…
“What we have to go through to get a dollar (from the Ministry of Sport) is dehumanising!”
National Senior Team head coach Stephen Hart, who steered the Warriors into the 2013 Gold Cup quarterfinal round, said he was told to be at the airport this evening to depart for their international fixture with Jordan on June 16. But no one knows if they will travel or not.
He said the current funding situation was harmful to the psyche and morale of his squad.
“This is becoming unbearable,” Hart told Wired868. “We are treating these players as if they are schoolboys and they don’t have arrangements to make with their families and they don’t have lives.
“It is wrong in every way. There is no team, I am sure, that is preparing for the Gold Cup the way we are.”
David Muhammad, who is manager of the Olympic Football Team, referred to their current predicament as a disaster.
“We submitted a budget of $1.7 million for three months, which included three camps, two tournaments and six competitive games plus three international friendlies and local practice matches,” said Muhammad. “That is an absolute minimum budget because just one game for the National Senior Team costs $600,000. But nothing has materialised.
“We asked for three foreign trips to play against Grenada, Antigua and Panama and we didn’t get a single one. Right now, we are hoping we can at least get a camp.”
Muhammad explained that the national players are travelling to training on a nearly daily basis at grounds all over the country. Without a centralised camp, the team officials are forced to give or lend money to players for transport even though the staff members are not being paid either.
Muhammad used a practice match in Toco as one example of the poor support they have received.
“We asked for help in getting transport for the game,” said Muhammad. “We had 42 persons at the time because we were still screening players. The Ministry of Sport said they were sending us a bus but sent a 24-seater maxi instead.
“We ended up having to travel to Toco in five different vehicles.”
Tim Kee said the situation felt more galling when he observes that foreign Women Premier League (WPL) players are being housed at the Chancellor Hotel while the Sport Ministry has approved millions for the Caribbean Premier League (CPL) competition.
According to Sancho, the Government will spend US$3.5 million for the CPL with the burden split between several ministries including the Sport Ministry.
“The Red Steel is not even a Trinidad and Tobago team,” said Tim Kee. “So I would like to know how the Ministry got money for that and we cannot get money for the national football team.”
Sancho retorted that Tim Kee’s football body failed to raise any of its own funds for the Gold Cup or upcoming 2018 World Cup qualifying campaign. And claimed the TTFA refuses to declare its subvention or other sources of funding from FIFA or CONCACAF.
“We have asked them to submit the money they have gotten from FIFA and CONCACAF and other sources and he refuses to,” said Sancho. “Yet he is demanding that we must pay all their bills. He is even asking us to pay for insurance for players when his own company (Guardian Life) refuses to sponsor their insurance…
“We have been very generous despite all their shortcomings and we are trying to work with them. But he is trying to agitate the program and he knows only the teams will suffer.”
Sport Ministry communications manager Shabaka Kambon gave an estimated breakdown of its spending over the past three years to the various sporting bodies.
“Football got over $50 million with $33 million going to the football association,” said Kambon. “Track and field and cricket got less than $20 million each. Hockey, boxing and netball got less than $7, $6 and $4 million respectively…”
Tim Kee said general secretary Sheldon Phillips and himself were trying to raise funds from corporate Trinidad and Tobago. But he conceded that they have been largely unsuccessful.
It is the first time in living memory that the Warriors will enter a World Cup qualifying campaign without a single notable sponsor.
“We have tried and we have not been getting any traction,” said Tim Kee. “We have started a new (income generation) initiative with a new website and so on and we have deals in kind with Blue Waters and Gatorade.
“But we don’t have any direct money coming in.”
In the meantime, temperatures continue to rise and fingers point back and forth between the TTFA and the Sport Ministry.
Another Sport Ministry official, who spoke anonymously, accused football of presenting “reckless budgets.”
“We looked at the budget the Under-23s brought,” he said. “And any player who plays in every match for them would make $20,000 a month in match fees and stipends for their two months…
“Now remember these are under-23 Pro League boys. They are spending recklessly.”
But Muhammad defended the request.
“Whoever said that obviously knows nothing at all about football. even if that were the case, does that mean you cancel all the camps and matches for the team?
“The budgeted (match fee) figure was US$1,000 per game for six competitive games,” said Muhammad. “The justification is the National Senior Team pays match fees of US$1,500 for entry level Caribbean Cup qualifiers. The Pan Am Games are much higher profile games but still we reduced it to US$1,000.
“Our squad is a fully professional squad and we are the only Caribbean team that qualified for the Pan Am Games. Anyone who thinks that is too much probably thinks we are lowly servants or slaves.”
The Under-23 manager claimed that even the mention of match fees was an attempt to play games by the Sport Ministry.
“These players are already getting just US$50 per day stipend and working on a minimum budget and they want to slash match fees too?” asked Muhammad, rhetorically. “But my point is, even if they disagreed with the match fees, does that mean you cancel all the camps and matches for the team because of that?! Why bring up match fees now?
“This goes back to the colonial mentality that black people shouldn’t be making money. Did they cancel the camps because of spite then?”
Sancho did not give a firm commitment to either the senior or under-23 Warriors and said only that the Sport Ministry would do its best.
It suggests an uncomfortable year for football—and the women’s Under-17, Under-20 and Senior Teams also have international engagements—unless the TTFA can raise its own money.
“Football gets far more than everyone else (from the Sport Ministry),” said the anonymous sport official. “Why bite the hand that feeds you? If I was a member of corporate Trinidad and Tobago, I would say if Tim Kee’s company isn’t putting in money then why should I?
“What don’t the loads of businesses he meets as Mayor of Port of Spain or PNM treasurer give money?”
Editor’s Note: Trinidad and Tobago National Team Manager William Wallace said he eventually collected a cheque from the Ministry of Sport at 4.03 pm on June 11, which will be used to pay for accommodation. He left the cheque to be processed and transferred on to his credit card tomorrow morning.
In the meantime, the “Soca Warriors” will fly to London and then head for their hotel with the hope that the money will come in time. The technical staff members are still owed salaries while there is insufficient funds to pay the players’ full match fees.
All money mentioned in the article is in TT dollars unless otherwise stated.
-
Mgr just received check
-
I thought the meeting with Sancho was cordial??? i guess not, so some more lies now...
-
Worst Sport Minister ever; Sancho and Tim Kee clash while Warriors in uproar
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)
Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president Raymond Tim Kee has described Senator Brent Sancho as “the worst Sport Minister ever” as the relationship between the two bodies appears to now be at breaking point.
The senior “Soca Warriors” are due to leave for Jordan this evening but have still not received funding for two nights accommodation in London. And the National Under-23 Team has still not received money for international practice games, a training camp or even visas to fly to Puerto Rico for the preliminary 2016 Olympic qualifying round, which kicks off on June 19.
Tim Kee told Wired868 that he clashed with Sancho last week after various funding issues including the Sport Minister’s declaration that the Government would only pay half of the players’ match fees leading up to the July 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup.
Tim Kee, who is also the Port of Spain Mayor and PNM treasurer, insisted that Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar’s TT$9 million Cabinet note, last December, guaranteed funding for the Senior National Team straight up to the Gold Cup tournament.
While Sancho retorted that 70 percent of the TT$9 million was spent on paying TTFA arrears to its coaches and players.
“I told him you would go down in history as being the worst Minister of Sport we ever had,” said Tim Kee, as he discussed his fiery meeting with Sancho last week. “So you would have to tell the players they are only getting half of their match fees. (Sancho) said that is my job not his job.
“I told him the Government has to support the National Team. He said he doesn’t know about that and his shoulders are broad and he can deal with that.
“I said my shoulders are broad too but the difference between you and I is you are a politician and I am not.”
Sancho offered a similarly abrasive response.
“I am not getting int a verbal joust with a renowned incompetent administrator,” Sancho told Wired868. “At the end of the day, it is the players who will suffer. He needs to stop playing politics with the sport.”
The Warriors coaches, players and officials are already suffering.
Just hours before their flight to Jordan via London, which leaves at 7.40 pm on June 11, Warriors manager William Wallace said he still does not know if the team will get the necessary funds to travel.
“It is 11.16 am and I am driving into Port of Spain where a cheque is supposed to be done,” said Wallace, who is also a Carapichaima East school teacher. “I am not sure what time that is going to be finished, so I will have to park up somewhere and wait.
“Then, I have to take (the cheque) to a bank and get it changed, load (the money) on to a credit card for me to use when I get to England and get home (in Chaguanas) to change to get to the airport at 5 pm…
“What we have to go through to get a dollar (from the Ministry of Sport) is dehumanising!”
Read more: http://wired868.com/2015/06/11/worst-sport-minister-ever-sancho-tim-kee-clash-while-warriors-suffer/
as a neutral reporter Lisana, I feel this piece is weighted in favor of TTFA, which imo should not be... i always support your writing and pieces but this seems a little too uneven for you... tim kee is also destroying our football... he should be the last to talk about playing politics with sport, because that is just what tim kee is doing...
-
It should be noted though that the funding for this program [WPL] is alleged to be sourced from the initial 9 million dollars that was allocated by the Government under former Minister Griffith.
It would be helpful to have a clear, categorical, and precise statement on this matter.
I did asked and the respond was "WPL being funded from it etc is rubbish, go check for yourself."
Tell me how to check, I dont have access to anyone accounts.
-
It should be noted though that the funding for this program [WPL] is alleged to be sourced from the initial 9 million dollars that was allocated by the Government under former Minister Griffith.
It would be helpful to have a clear, categorical, and precise statement on this matter.
I did asked and the respond was "WPL being funded from it etc is rubbish, go check for yourself."
Tell me how to check, I dont have access to anyone accounts.
now that is what i call an ignorant statement to make to you...
no wonder them men back home fighting and suffering...
-
I thought Sancho a good choice initially but seems like he only has an axe to grind. He ent no better than Tim Kee!
-
Why de f00ck Sancho and he sidekick Kevin Harrison doh go and f00king jump of a mountain.
Kevin, this is tax payers money.
You dont f00cking own that, you and Sancho
This is our team, who give you de right to come here and play games with big men and women.
Get the f00ck out of our country if you cant help our team, and take Sancho with you, he deserve to be in England smelling them people asses and leave we alone.
When Anil was f00cking allyuh, everyday you crying here, now you doing de same.
Where de 9 million?
Did Sancho really give the TTFA 9 million?
Did Sancho use to to fund WPL.
How WPL improving we women team and they collect 9 yesterday from we women team?
A 6 weeks tournament really helping?
What about long term if yuh so want to help?
Stop playing politics with we football before ah ride for yuh and hit yuh some hard f00cking calpat.
I thought Boyce, was bad, but Hunt came, then ah thought he was bader then Anil came and I thought he was de worst, but Sancho take de foocking cake.
This is we team, is not like Tim Kee putting de money in his pocket, all going back to de team.
If yuh so care, you and Tim Kee battle it out next TTFA election then.
Even Lasana f00cking allyuh up.
Come nah man, allyuh is big men.
-
Why de f00ck Sancho and he sidekick Kevin Harrison doh go and f00king jump of a mountain.
Kevin, this is tax payers money.
You dont f00cking own that, you and Sancho
This is our team, who give you de right to come here and play games with big men and women.
Get the f00ck out of our country if you cant help our team, and take Sancho with you, he deserve to be in England smelling them people asses and leave we alone.
When Anil was f00cking allyuh, everyday you crying here, now you doing de same.
Where de 9 million?
Did Sancho really give the TTFA 9 million?
Did Sancho use to to fund WPL.
How WPL improving we women team and they collect 9 yesterday from we women team?
A 6 weeks tournament really helping?
What about long term if yuh so want to help?
Stop playing politics with we football before ah ride for yuh and hit yuh some hard f00cking calpat.
I thought Boyce, was bad, but Hunt came, then ah thought he was bader then Anil came and I thought he was de worst, but Sancho take de foocking cake.
This is we team, is not like Tim Kee putting de money in his pocket, all going back to de team.
If yuh so care, you and Tim Kee battle it out next TTFA election then.
Even Lasana f00cking allyuh up.
Come nah man, allyuh is big men.
the WPL was concocted to siphon money out of the MOS and fill men pockets... nothing more, nothing less...
advancement of football is not the objective, it is advancement of their net worth...
-
This is the same minister who promised bonuses to his own Central FC players and then deny it.
And to know that T&T have 7 Central FC players on they Gold Cup roster.
Amazing the depths Sancho and Harrison is going to prove a point.
Shameless.
I wish election was tomorrow.
Everyone is writing in the TTFA defence, I hope they realise who is they real enemy and move a little better with us here from now now.
Would love to hear the TTFA take on all this, instead of them having folks fight ALONE for them.
Good job Flex.
-
Smh
-
Very good article Flex... and fair/balanced article by Lasana as well, apparently even he starting to see thru the b.s. being spouted by Sancho and Harrison. Flex yuh real hustle to get some of this info... real "investigative" journalism there. :beermug:
The $9 million hasn't been spent... in fact I see Lasana correcting the record now to say that is 70 percent (and not 90 percent) of the money Sancho claims has been spent. Pressed for an answer in an earlier article and he couldn't provide details. Pressed for an answer and not even his favorite lapdop Harrison could answer, choosing instead to call this one and that one liar and claiming people being misled. Yeah, misled by a new bunch of blasted wolf in sheep's clothing.
Imagine Sancho claims they starting a "league" for the women to play... next thing you know is a frigging "tournament". Harrison shitting on WoLF saying "how you expect the National team to benefit from teams losing 16-0"... but God doh like ugly, the women turn around and drop 9 on these foreign players they bring in. Nine! Spend all this money putting up these hand-selected foreign players in hotel, paying for food, paying salaries etc. Money that could/should have gone to the development of the women's youth teams, where the TTFA has been putting most of the money from the failed WC campaign, instead they throwing it at an aging team with little prospects of improving.
But even if yuh want to keep the Sr. Women active... couldn't that same $1.7 million have gone towards sending them abroad on a tour or a camp? Nah, you want tuh establish yuh own narcissistic legacy by setting up a parallel "league" to siphon players from WoLF, and money from women's football. And Harrison and Sancho could say what the hell they like, MoS staff was using the Cabinet Note allocation as a slush fund, paying bills etc. then putting it back as money come in... but he can't pay the f**king coaches.
-
Well well - no surprise what we are seeing here- this unfortunately has been is the legacy of an ill willed incompetent and grossly mismanaged governance in each and every ministerial portfolio. Time and time again we have seen ministers giving out gifts - balls and trying to appeal to underprivilidged folks and posing for propaganda photo opts-
Who is suffering in all this? The players,the programs, the country- the legacy of a special advisor has traversed the test of time and all those who have been in the path of self serving individuals have now become the greed eyed monster that has demoralized our game!
The TTFAis just a body a conduit to transact the football operations- the people behind are the drivers- it would be up to plyers to rise above the adversities and to secure their personal futures without getting crushed in tne tunami of political ping pong and individual bs
Our only redemption is to ensure that at the heart of our team are players and coaches willing to persevere despite it all.
Sad sad legacy of incompetence! Is it any wonder that potential plyers are not flocking to wear the red white and black!
-
Good frigging article Flex., Love it.
I guess senate does not close and Sancho was working over time.
I can't stand Sancho, I really thought he would have done well, honestly and I am here swallowing what FS saying on the forum.
Tim Kee is another trip.
The TTFA don't have the balls to fight or survive.
You can never have good intentions if you join this government.
Stop pushing your pnm rubbish, this thread is about football and the progress of our national football, not to push your partisan agenda for Pnm.. Tim kee just as bad or worse.. None are good..
-
Stueps just saw on Facebook Hart saying things bad in regards to preparation
Basically the administration is affecting our players big time
-
Ministry blank causes Olympic men to miss 3rd camp.
By Ian Prescott (Express).
Football suffering
THE Trinidad and Tobago Olympic men's football team had its third overseas camp postponed, just ten days before going into the 2015 CONCACAF Men's Olympic Qualifying tournament in Puerto Rico.
The team is also preparing for the Pan Am Games in August.
The Under-23 Soca Warriors do not have visas, or have confirmed flight, accommodation or funding for its trip to Puerto Rico.
Further, neither the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) nor the Ministry of Sport could provide funding for Zoran Vranes, Trinidad and Tobago's Serbia-born T&T national Under-23 football team head-coach, to travel to Grenada to scout opening Pan Am Games opponents Puerto Rico.
Responding to direct questioning, manager David Muhammad confirmed certain information and also painted a dim picture surrounding the talented young team.
“Tonight (Thursday) we were supposed to send our coach to Grenada to look at the Puerto Rico team play. Nothing,” Muhammad declared. “Up to yesterday, we (the team) were supposed to go to Panama. It was cancelled again. Not a single international game for this team.”
Vranes took control of a talented team containing most of the players that won the 2014 Caribbean Under-20 Championship. Players included in the team are Akeem Garcia, MVP Kadeem Corbin, North East Stars midfielder Neveal Hackshaw, Shannon Gomez, Jomal Williams, Martieon Watson, Brendon Creed, Josiah Trimmingham, Levi Garcia, Akeem Garcia, Kadeem Corbin, Kevon Goddard, Jabari Mitchell, Aikim Andrews and Alvin Jones.
The Under-23 “Soca Warriors” begin their 2015 CONCACAF Men's Olympic Qualifying Championship campaign in a Caribbean qualifying group on June 22 against Puerto Rico.
T&T are placed in Group F along with hosts Puerto Rico, Suriname and St Vincent & the Grenadines. But according to Muhammad, coach Vranes' already late preparation is further compromised by lack of warm-up matches.
“This is the third trip that has been cancelled with this team. We have had no camp. We are preparing for trips then it gets cancelled because the Ministry of Sport says it has no money.”
Muhammad said without a camp the team has had to train all around the country at all the local stadiums. They had also won five warm-up matches against local Pro League teams going down 4-2 only to the senior national team.
“When we were supposed to go to Antigua the other day they had us booked on four different flights across two different days,” Muhammad added. “The reason is because every time we book they (Ministry of Sport) don't pay. We lose the booking and have to re-book again. When they re-book again, we lose the flight again. I'll be darn if we have to go to Puerto Rico like that.”
-
Ministry blank causes Olympic men to miss 3rd camp.
By Ian Prescott (Express).
Football suffering
THE Trinidad and Tobago Olympic men's football team had its third overseas camp postponed, just ten days before going into the 2015 CONCACAF Men's Olympic Qualifying tournament in Puerto Rico.
The team is also preparing for the Pan Am Games in August.
The Under-23 Soca Warriors do not have visas, or have confirmed flight, accommodation or funding for its trip to Puerto Rico.
Further, neither the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) nor the Ministry of Sport could provide funding for Zoran Vranes, Trinidad and Tobago's Serbia-born T&T national Under-23 football team head-coach, to travel to Grenada to scout opening Pan Am Games opponents Puerto Rico.
Responding to direct questioning, manager David Muhammad confirmed certain information and also painted a dim picture surrounding the talented young team.
“Tonight (Thursday) we were supposed to send our coach to Grenada to look at the Puerto Rico team play. Nothing,” Muhammad declared. “Up to yesterday, we (the team) were supposed to go to Panama. It was cancelled again. Not a single international game for this team.”
Vranes took control of a talented team containing most of the players that won the 2014 Caribbean Under-20 Championship. Players included in the team are Akeem Garcia, MVP Kadeem Corbin, North East Stars midfielder Neveal Hackshaw, Shannon Gomez, Jomal Williams, Martieon Watson, Brendon Creed, Josiah Trimmingham, Levi Garcia, Akeem Garcia, Kadeem Corbin, Kevon Goddard, Jabari Mitchell, Aikim Andrews and Alvin Jones.
The Under-23 “Soca Warriors” begin their 2015 CONCACAF Men's Olympic Qualifying Championship campaign in a Caribbean qualifying group on June 22 against Puerto Rico.
T&T are placed in Group F along with hosts Puerto Rico, Suriname and St Vincent & the Grenadines. But according to Muhammad, coach Vranes' already late preparation is further compromised by lack of warm-up matches.
“This is the third trip that has been cancelled with this team. We have had no camp. We are preparing for trips then it gets cancelled because the Ministry of Sport says it has no money.”
Muhammad said without a camp the team has had to train all around the country at all the local stadiums. They had also won five warm-up matches against local Pro League teams going down 4-2 only to the senior national team.
“When we were supposed to go to Antigua the other day they had us booked on four different flights across two different days,” Muhammad added. “The reason is because every time we book they (Ministry of Sport) don't pay. We lose the booking and have to re-book again. When they re-book again, we lose the flight again. I'll be darn if we have to go to Puerto Rico like that.”
Shameless f00cking bastards.
Sancho, do de right thing and resign.
And allyuh feeling sorry for de 06 Wariors when Jack f00ck them and Sancho and them eh no better.
-
CO-SIGN
Ministry blank causes Olympic men to miss 3rd camp.
By Ian Prescott (Express).
Football suffering
THE Trinidad and Tobago Olympic men's football team had its third overseas camp postponed, just ten days before going into the 2015 CONCACAF Men's Olympic Qualifying tournament in Puerto Rico.
The team is also preparing for the Pan Am Games in August.
The Under-23 Soca Warriors do not have visas, or have confirmed flight, accommodation or funding for its trip to Puerto Rico.
Further, neither the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) nor the Ministry of Sport could provide funding for Zoran Vranes, Trinidad and Tobago's Serbia-born T&T national Under-23 football team head-coach, to travel to Grenada to scout opening Pan Am Games opponents Puerto Rico.
Responding to direct questioning, manager David Muhammad confirmed certain information and also painted a dim picture surrounding the talented young team.
“Tonight (Thursday) we were supposed to send our coach to Grenada to look at the Puerto Rico team play. Nothing,” Muhammad declared. “Up to yesterday, we (the team) were supposed to go to Panama. It was cancelled again. Not a single international game for this team.”
Vranes took control of a talented team containing most of the players that won the 2014 Caribbean Under-20 Championship. Players included in the team are Akeem Garcia, MVP Kadeem Corbin, North East Stars midfielder Neveal Hackshaw, Shannon Gomez, Jomal Williams, Martieon Watson, Brendon Creed, Josiah Trimmingham, Levi Garcia, Akeem Garcia, Kadeem Corbin, Kevon Goddard, Jabari Mitchell, Aikim Andrews and Alvin Jones.
The Under-23 “Soca Warriors” begin their 2015 CONCACAF Men's Olympic Qualifying Championship campaign in a Caribbean qualifying group on June 22 against Puerto Rico.
T&T are placed in Group F along with hosts Puerto Rico, Suriname and St Vincent & the Grenadines. But according to Muhammad, coach Vranes' already late preparation is further compromised by lack of warm-up matches.
“This is the third trip that has been cancelled with this team. We have had no camp. We are preparing for trips then it gets cancelled because the Ministry of Sport says it has no money.”
Muhammad said without a camp the team has had to train all around the country at all the local stadiums. They had also won five warm-up matches against local Pro League teams going down 4-2 only to the senior national team.
“When we were supposed to go to Antigua the other day they had us booked on four different flights across two different days,” Muhammad added. “The reason is because every time we book they (Ministry of Sport) don't pay. We lose the booking and have to re-book again. When they re-book again, we lose the flight again. I'll be darn if we have to go to Puerto Rico like that.”
Shameless f00cking bastards.
Sancho, do de right thing and resign.
And allyuh feeling sorry for de 06 Wariors when Jack f00ck them and Sancho and them eh no better.
-
Yeah I pretty much agree with everyone else. I think Sancho & Tim Kee should resign. From what i can gather (I have no sources this is strictly from an outsider point of view) Sancho does not trust Tim Kee, and is doing everything to force him out. It seems that the old way of the TTFA demanding money was counterproductive and financially wasteful. So Sancho is trying to force the TTFA to change their methods and become more accountable. However his methods are very heavy handed and he seems comfortable letting the team suffer for the foreseeable future in order to force Tim Kee out. I feel very sorry for any player over the age of 26 because this is essentially dooming our 2018 campaign before it has started. I think all of us agree that Tim Kee is a waste and not trustworthy, but Sancho's approach is making me feel uneasy. These past couple months along with the events at the Caribbean Cup has rubbed me the wrong way. Jack Warner left the Trinidad & Tobago football in such a huge debt that it will be hard for the TTFA for probably the next 5 years at least. I hope if Sancho or one of his friends become the next TTFA president they never ask for extra government aid.
-
I think from now until the next government is sworn in... and maybe even going forward, the TTFA needs to do their best to comply with whatever stipulations are put on government aid. I think the government needs to be fair however and don't switch shit up midstream and engaging in the same inconsistency which they accusing the TTFA of. I think the TTFA needs to rely on government as little as possible, request aid where necessary, and prepare for the best but expect the worst. At least that way if no money come thru then they in no worse a position than when they started.
-
I fed up with both T&T football and this government.....and yeah ah still think Brent is a clown for joining up with this government....and I never trusted Tim Kee......
Firetruck all of them..... :cursing: :cursing: :bs: :bs: :bs: :pissedoff:
-
Good frigging article Flex., Love it.
I guess senate does not close and Sancho was working over time.
I can't stand Sancho, I really thought he would have done well, honestly and I am here swallowing what FS saying on the forum.
Tim Kee is another trip.
The TTFA don't have the balls to fight or survive.
You can never have good intentions if you join this government.
Stop pushing your pnm rubbish, this thread is about football and the progress of our national football, not to push your partisan agenda for Pnm.. Tim kee just as bad or worse.. None are good..
You need to stop yuh ANTI PNM bias. The man join the woman who ignored him for years because she paid him some money the man who made her owed them. So anybody who think that Sanko joining this bunch of crooks and criminals was a good idea just as dumb as you.
-
Everybody Tim Key is a miniature crook but a crook none the same. We also know that he going a place because we know he most likely will be unopposed. The Sanko fella however, will be back at Central FC waiting on government funding via the Pro League.
So a PNM government and a PNM TTFA all will be well because our only concern is that the team must play. When in the height of the blacklist we say lets get band from FIFA man here was not willing for that to happen so just hold strain Sanko and his bunch of crooks and criminals will soon be history.
-
Everybody Tim Key is a miniature crook but a crook none the same. We also know that he going a place because we know he most likely will be unopposed. The Sanko fella however, will be back at Central FC waiting on government funding via the Pro League.
So a PNM government and a PNM TTFA all will be well because our only concern is that the team must play. When in the height of the blacklist we say lets get band from FIFA man here was not willing for that to happen so just hold strain Sanko and his bunch of crooks and criminals will soon be history.
Let the Pnm campaign begin.. Pmn not spending a red cent on the team.. They watch the east dry river burn with crime and poverty, so don't talk about Pnm want them to play.. Tim kee is a big pnm nam who just as corrupt.. He just as likely to raid the treasure chest and not answer to anyone.., he don't even want to talk to the sw.net
You're a real stooge.
Stop using this as a campaign effort... You and your partisan garbage that you blinded by, just advance the money sancho and ride out like Tim kee..
-
Everybody Tim Key is a miniature crook but a crook none the same. We also know that he going a place because we know he most likely will be unopposed. The Sanko fella however, will be back at Central FC waiting on government funding via the Pro League.
So a PNM government and a PNM TTFA all will be well because our only concern is that the team must play. When in the height of the blacklist we say lets get band from FIFA man here was not willing for that to happen so just hold strain Sanko and his bunch of crooks and criminals will soon be history.
Let the Pnm campaign begin.. Pmn not spending a red cent on the team.. They watch the east dry river burn with crime and poverty, so don't talk about Pnm want them to play.. Tim kee is a big pnm nam who just as corrupt.. He just as likely to raid the treasure chest and not answer to anyone.., he don't even want to talk to the sw.net
You're a real stooge.
Stop using this as a campaign effort... You and your partisan garbage that you blinded by, just advance the money sancho and ride out like Tim kee..
I living here you are just an imps who reside overseas.
-
Everybody Tim Key is a miniature crook but a crook none the same. We also know that he going a place because we know he most likely will be unopposed. The Sanko fella however, will be back at Central FC waiting on government funding via the Pro League.
So a PNM government and a PNM TTFA all will be well because our only concern is that the team must play. When in the height of the blacklist we say lets get band from FIFA man here was not willing for that to happen so just hold strain Sanko and his bunch of crooks and criminals will soon be history.
Let the Pnm campaign begin.. Pmn not spending a red cent on the team.. They watch the east dry river burn with crime and poverty, so don't talk about Pnm want them to play.. Tim kee is a big pnm nam who just as corrupt.. He just as likely to raid the treasure chest and not answer to anyone.., he don't even want to talk to the sw.net
You're a real stooge.
Stop using this as a campaign effort... You and your partisan garbage that you blinded by, just advance the money sancho and ride out like Tim kee..
I living here you are just an imps who reside overseas.
Living there and doing nothing for the nations progress, you're a partisan stooge... Who is narrow minded and has an axe to grind because of race, religion and affiliation..
The only imps is the person you see in the mirror every morning when you wake up to worship your false idol.. The PNM
-
Everybody Tim Key is a miniature crook but a crook none the same. We also know that he going a place because we know he most likely will be unopposed. The Sanko fella however, will be back at Central FC waiting on government funding via the Pro League.
So a PNM government and a PNM TTFA all will be well because our only concern is that the team must play. When in the height of the blacklist we say lets get band from FIFA man here was not willing for that to happen so just hold strain Sanko and his bunch of crooks and criminals will soon be history.
Let the Pnm campaign begin.. Pmn not spending a red cent on the team.. They watch the east dry river burn with crime and poverty, so don't talk about Pnm want them to play.. Tim kee is a big pnm nam who just as corrupt.. He just as likely to raid the treasure chest and not answer to anyone.., he don't even want to talk to the sw.net
You're a real stooge.
Stop using this as a campaign effort... You and your partisan garbage that you blinded by, just advance the money sancho and ride out like Tim kee..
I living here you are just an imps who reside overseas.
Living there and doing nothing for the nations progress, you're a partisan stooge... Who is narrow minded and has an axe to grind because of race, religion and affiliation..
The only imps is the person you see in the mirror every morning when you wake up to worship your false idol.. The PNM
People like you will make people cuss you know nothing about me but come here and post yuh rubbish. But I will just let you continue to show how much of an ignorant fool that you are. So continue to show how much of a backside you are. You are an embarrassment to people from behind the bridge.
-
"political meltdown" or " Poltical bust up".. either way, same khaki pants . so allyuh could nastyup each other if allyuh want, dem doh care
add: ah know when man parting fight they does get lash, but allyuh closer to me than the powers that be ;)
-
"political meltdown" or " Poltical bust up".. either way, same khaki pants . so allyuh could nastyup each other if allyuh want, dem doh care
add: ah know when man parting fight they does get lash, but allyuh closer to me than the powers that be ;)
Max my brother.. I don't bother with people like Scary1969... Because they are pawns for politicians that use her to push their selfish agenda and fuel hate in our nation...
I have no time for people who are clueless about politics and sport... Our football Is my main concern, not some fly by night wagonista....
I just have no time to hear a campaigning pitch on a football thread where our footballers and our nations program is at risk.. Take that rubbish with you on your own time and stop wasting people time with your foolish innuendo
This is a football discussion, not a PNM rally or campaign message...
-
I hope if Sancho or one of his friends become the next TTFA president they never ask for extra government aid.
Dyno, you being sarcastic, right!
-
Of course but you understand my point.
-
"political meltdown" or " Poltical bust up".. either way, same khaki pants . so allyuh could nastyup each other if allyuh want, dem doh care
add: ah know when man parting fight they does get lash, but allyuh closer to me than the powers that be ;)
Max my brother.. I don't bother with people like Scary1969... Because they are pawns for politicians that use her to push their selfish agenda and fuel hate in our nation...
I have no time for people who are clueless about politics and sport... Our football Is my main concern, not some fly by night wagonista....
I just have no time to hear a campaigning pitch on a football thread where our footballers and our nations program is at risk.. Take that rubbish with you on your own time and stop wasting people time with your foolish innuendo
This is a football discussion, not a PNM rally or campaign message...
You fixated with the PNM.
-
F00ck PNM but at this point in time, I go vote for them because ah hate Kamla and Sancho.
-
So Sancho spend 1.7 million on de WPL.
How much extra he spending to feed, drive them to training and around, pay them and house de foreigners?
Is there is prize money at de end?
How much de foreigners (players and coaches) getting paid compare to de locals?
Just asking.
-
So Sancho spend 1.7 million on de WPL.
How much extra he spending to feed, drive them to training and around, pay them and house de foreigners?
Is there is prize money at de end?
How much de foreigners (players and coaches) getting paid compare to de locals?
Just asking.
Everything comes from the $1.7 and the sponsorship. Girls from our National team constructed the salary structure. I don't have the figures, as I am not involved on a day to day basis.
-
So you woking with de MOS and you dont have de figures, ok, and Kamla pregnant for Rowley.
What aboput insurance, medical and who pay they airline ticket to come here?
How they decide who to bring down?
Its hard to believe 1.7 million paid for all that.
How many foreigners per team?
-
So you woking with de MOS and you dont have de figures, ok, and Kamla pregnant for Rowley.
What aboput insurance, medical and who pay they airline ticket to come here?
How they decide who to bring down?
Its hard to believe 1.7 million paid for all that.
How many foreigners per team?
Sam, it's not the Ministry of Football. I can't possibly be expected to know every minutiae of every sport application or project we have ongoing. And I don't have the hundreds of files on my desk or carry them home on the weekends.
There is a specific body who administer and manage the WPL as well as a board.
-
So you woking with de MOS and you dont have de figures, ok, and Kamla pregnant for Rowley.
What aboput insurance, medical and who pay they airline ticket to come here?
How they decide who to bring down?
Its hard to believe 1.7 million paid for all that.
How many foreigners per team?
Sam, it's not the Ministry of Football. I can't possibly be expected to know every minutiae of every sport application or project we have ongoing. And I don't have the hundreds of files on my desk or carry them home on the weekends.
There is a specific body who administer and manage the WPL as well as a board.
You should know because this tournament belong to the MOS.
I am surprise, its not the Ministry of Football, because de ministry of sports running a football tournament.
They dont know how much it really cost and to make it worst, de MOS wants audit accounts from de TTFA but yet they lost for paper work when it comes to they own tournament.
Who is de specific body who administer and manage the WPL as well as a board and how much them getting paid?
I have a feeling this cost more that 1.7 mill but no one will never know, just like Lifesports and hoop for life.
-
So you woking with de MOS and you dont have de figures, ok, and Kamla pregnant for Rowley.
What aboput insurance, medical and who pay they airline ticket to come here?
How they decide who to bring down?
Its hard to believe 1.7 million paid for all that.
How many foreigners per team?
Sam, it's not the Ministry of Football. I can't possibly be expected to know every minutiae of every sport application or project we have ongoing. And I don't have the hundreds of files on my desk or carry them home on the weekends.
There is a specific body who administer and manage the WPL as well as a board.
You should know because this tournament belong to the MOS.
I am surprise, its not the Ministry of Football, because de ministry of sports running a football tournament.
They dont know how much it really cost and to make it worst, de MOS wants audit accounts from de TTFA but yet they lost for paper work when it comes to they own tournament.
Who is de specific body who administer and manage the WPL as well as a board and how much them getting paid?
I have a feeling this cost more that 1.7 mill but no one will never know, just like Lifesports and hoop for life.
Sam, you're beginning to sound like Bakes! I have already told you it costs more than !.7 million. However, unlike TTFA the Ministry has gained sponsorship. I know this is unheard of in T&T football, but, yes, company's do want to sponsor football. There will be audited accounts made public....not in 7 years time, within weeks of the end of the tournament.
Your efforts would be better spent asking TTFA questions about their operations: how much do they receive from FIFA, how much are their administrators paid, what do they spend their millions in admin fees on?
-
So you woking with de MOS and you dont have de figures, ok, and Kamla pregnant for Rowley.
What aboput insurance, medical and who pay they airline ticket to come here?
How they decide who to bring down?
Its hard to believe 1.7 million paid for all that.
How many foreigners per team?
Sam, it's not the Ministry of Football. I can't possibly be expected to know every minutiae of every sport application or project we have ongoing. And I don't have the hundreds of files on my desk or carry them home on the weekends.
There is a specific body who administer and manage the WPL as well as a board.
You should know because this tournament belong to the MOS.
I am surprise, its not the Ministry of Football, because de ministry of sports running a football tournament.
They dont know how much it really cost and to make it worst, de MOS wants audit accounts from de TTFA but yet they lost for paper work when it comes to they own tournament.
Who is de specific body who administer and manage the WPL as well as a board and how much them getting paid?
I have a feeling this cost more that 1.7 mill but no one will never know, just like Lifesports and hoop for life.
Sam, you're beginning to sound like Bakes! I have already told you it costs more than !.7 million. However, unlike TTFA the Ministry has gained sponsorship. I know this is unheard of in T&T football, but, yes, company's do want to sponsor football. There will be audited accounts made public....not in 7 years time, within weeks of the end of the tournament.
Your efforts would be better spent asking TTFA questions about their operations: how much do they receive from FIFA, how much are their administrators paid, what do they spend their millions in admin fees on?
In first world nations if you are unable to provide the necessary info for an audit, that is a serious offence... Some terms that will be associated with your company, would be, shady, corrupt, mismanagement ...
TTFA needs to be run by people who can actually produce standard documents in a timely manner and believes in transparency and accountability.... Not people like Tim Kee who are corrupt and have a hidden agenda and believe they are above everyone else..
Right now the current admin is not serving our football... They need to be removed, and if they can't provide the necessary documents for an audit after 7 years it means rampant mismanagement of funds...
Siphoning money and embezzlement are other words that come to mind.. Keep in mind I know senior auditors for the Canadian government so i know what they look for and expect
-
Will keep it in mind...
-
So you woking with de MOS and you dont have de figures, ok, and Kamla pregnant for Rowley.
What aboput insurance, medical and who pay they airline ticket to come here?
How they decide who to bring down?
Its hard to believe 1.7 million paid for all that.
How many foreigners per team?
Sam, it's not the Ministry of Football. I can't possibly be expected to know every minutiae of every sport application or project we have ongoing. And I don't have the hundreds of files on my desk or carry them home on the weekends.
There is a specific body who administer and manage the WPL as well as a board.
You should know because this tournament belong to the MOS.
I am surprise, its not the Ministry of Football, because de ministry of sports running a football tournament.
They dont know how much it really cost and to make it worst, de MOS wants audit accounts from de TTFA but yet they lost for paper work when it comes to they own tournament.
Who is de specific body who administer and manage the WPL as well as a board and how much them getting paid?
I have a feeling this cost more that 1.7 mill but no one will never know, just like Lifesports and hoop for life.
Sam, you're beginning to sound like Bakes! I have already told you it costs more than !.7 million. However, unlike TTFA the Ministry has gained sponsorship. I know this is unheard of in T&T football, but, yes, company's do want to sponsor football. There will be audited accounts made public....not in 7 years time, within weeks of the end of the tournament.
Your efforts would be better spent asking TTFA questions about their operations: how much do they receive from FIFA, how much are their administrators paid, what do they spend their millions in admin fees on?
In first world nations if you are unable to provide the necessary info for an audit, that is a serious offence... Some terms that will be associated with your company, would be, shady, corrupt, mismanagement ...
TTFA needs to be run by people who can actually produce standard documents in a timely manner and believes in transparency and accountability.... Not people like Tim Kee who are corrupt and have a hidden agenda and believe they are above everyone else..
Right now the current admin is not serving our football... They need to be removed, and if they can't provide the necessary documents for an audit after 7 years it means rampant mismanagement of funds...
Siphoning money and embezzlement are other words that come to mind.. Keep in mind I know senior auditors for the Canadian government so i know what they look for and expect
TTFA have very good reasons why the audits are delayed from 2008. But they haven't made this information public.
-
I eh cussing, just asking questions. This might be a big clue as to why the TTFA nothing getting any sponsors when all de company is STATE OWN !!!!
Sam, you're beginning to sound like Bakes! I have already told you it costs more than !.7 million. However, unlike TTFA the Ministry has gained sponsorship. I know this is unheard of in T&T football, but, yes, company's do want to sponsor football. There will be audited accounts made public....not in 7 years time, within weeks of the end of the tournament.
Your efforts would be better spent asking TTFA questions about their operations: how much do they receive from FIFA, how much are their administrators paid, what do they spend their millions in admin fees on?
Interestingly, State owned enterprises like; Petrotrin, NP, TSTT and the National Gas Company (NGC) contributes massive amount of cash to cricket while football is totally ignored and gets absolutely nothing. For example, in 2014 National Gas Company of Trinidad and Tobago contributed over $13 million to facilitate cricket tournaments, development programmes and financial support to national teams at various levels. However, should the PNM win the next election, the table can surely turn into Tim Kee's favor, hence the reason he wants to serve another 4-year term.
-
Sam, you're beginning to sound like Bakes! I have already told you it costs more than !.7 million. However, unlike TTFA the Ministry has gained sponsorship. I know this is unheard of in T&T football, but, yes, company's do want to sponsor football. There will be audited accounts made public....not in 7 years time, within weeks of the end of the tournament.
Your efforts would be better spent asking TTFA questions about their operations: how much do they receive from FIFA, how much are their administrators paid, what do they spend their millions in admin fees on?
I'll take that as a compliment... because he's asking you pointed, direct questions, and not falling for the bullshit yuh spinning. You know everything except answers to hard questions. Yuh claim the TTFA spent 90% of $9.9 million dollars but can't tell us what the 10% that balance is. Obviously, 10% of $9.9 million dollars is $990,000. But you can't say that is all that's left in the account because yuh know is a damned lie.
Then yuh want to throw shade on the FA on top of that talking about it wouldn't take 7 years to produce an audit... yet in the same time saying there is good reasons why the TTFA can't provide accounts from 2008. He's asking you questions about the Ministry of Sport spending taxpayers' money and you telling him to go ask the TTFA how they spending the money they get from FIFA. Yuh's a real cyat... is no wonder people in local football think yuh's such a Grade A nannyhole.
I eh cussing, just asking questions. This might be a big clue as to why the TTFA nothing getting any sponsors when all de company is STATE OWN !!!!
Sam, think long and hard at why state-owned companies under this government might rather put their money in cricket than in football... or give money to anybody else but the TTFA. Yeah, yeah... we know they corrupt and what not.
-
Ah smelling one dirty rat and stinking rotten chat- when FS stated that ah ministry - a government minstry could access and accept sponsorship from companies! Yuh EH see see potential for kickbacks- payoffs and money going into pockets for possible contracts or other favours!
This is just pure nonsense or as FS admitted unheard of but allowed to happen and people putting the squeeze onTTFA- it would appear that if one is allowed to be a government minister and hold on to a post as SA to TFFA , that given all that transpired, yuh could see how potential access to siphoning funds could drain that organization.
Now layer all that with some political puppet coming on and now using their status to squeeze the lifeblood from the TTFA? I EH saying that some mismanagement may not have occurred and had there been accountable and transparent measures, just maybe all the tracking of revenues and expenses would not be open to debate.
As a Minister, could he not hire and mandate an independent audit of the association, track the ministry payouts and then streamline current funding? Hire an independent body if yuh want to ensure national team's financial request are accordingly deployed. Show that any sponsorship money acquired is deployed or allocated to national teams.
Yuh does winer if these ministers brains shifted with they intestines so what coming out of their thinking is pure sheet-
-
Sam, you're beginning to sound like Bakes! I have already told you it costs more than !.7 million. However, unlike TTFA the Ministry has gained sponsorship. I know this is unheard of in T&T football, but, yes, company's do want to sponsor football. There will be audited accounts made public....not in 7 years time, within weeks of the end of the tournament.
Your efforts would be better spent asking TTFA questions about their operations: how much do they receive from FIFA, how much are their administrators paid, what do they spend their millions in admin fees on?
I'll take that as a compliment... because he's asking you pointed, direct questions, and not falling for the bullshit yuh spinning. You know everything except answers to hard questions. Yuh claim the TTFA spent 90% of $9.9 million dollars but can't tell us what the 10% that balance is. Obviously, 10% of $9.9 million dollars is $990,000. But you can't say that is all that's left in the account because yuh know is a damned lie.
Then yuh want to throw shade on the FA on top of that talking about it wouldn't take 7 years to produce an audit... yet in the same time saying there is good reasons why the TTFA can't provide accounts from 2008. He's asking you questions about the Ministry of Sport spending taxpayers' money and you telling him to go ask the TTFA how they spending the money they get from FIFA. Yuh's a real cyat... is no wonder people in local football think yuh's such a Grade A nannyhole.
I eh cussing, just asking questions. This might be a big clue as to why the TTFA nothing getting any sponsors when all de company is STATE OWN !!!!
Sam, think long and hard at why state-owned companies under this government might rather put their money in cricket than in football... or give money to anybody else but the TTFA. Yeah, yeah... we know they corrupt and what not.
Bakes, God forbid the PNM get in at the next election. You would have no life. You'd have to find a hobby or a boyfriend or something. Ever thought about petitioning the Olympics to bring in a world bitching event?
Then yuh want to throw shade on the FA on top of that talking about it wouldn't take 7 years to produce an audit... yet in the same time saying there is good reasons why the TTFA can't provide accounts from 2008.
Think this through. Yuh bitch Tim-Kee becomes President and realises there are no audits since 2008 (Which, actually, he would have know as VP of TTFF). Does he think "Hmm, that's not good, I'd better use some of my funding to correct this pronto so I can show people we are transparent and accountable"? Or does he shrug his shoulders and say "Boy, there's problems to overcome and I'd rather have a new website than be transparent and accountable"?
However you want to protect TTFA, even an ambulance chaser like you would recognise the need to be accountable.
And as for maths, the famous Bakes, who has known everything about a cabinet note two years before it was produced, yet only found out this week that is was $9.9 million not $9 million and had conditions to be met, needs to stop his :bs: about how he knows everything.
As for nannyhole, you ain't exactly popular. And I see now you're bitching coz Contro used your real name. Joker.
-
Ah smelling one dirty rat and stinking rotten chat- when FS stated that ah ministry - a government minstry could access and accept sponsorship from companies! Yuh EH see see potential for kickbacks- payoffs and money going into pockets for possible contracts or other favours!
This is just pure nonsense or as FS admitted unheard of but allowed to happen and people putting the squeeze onTTFA- it would appear that if one is allowed to be a government minister and hold on to a post as SA to TFFA , that given all that transpired, yuh could see how potential access to siphoning funds could drain that organization.
Now layer all that with some political puppet coming on and now using their status to squeeze the lifeblood from the TTFA? I EH saying that some mismanagement may not have occurred and had there been accountable and transparent measures, just maybe all the tracking of revenues and expenses would not be open to debate.
As a Minister, could he not hire and mandate an independent audit of the association, track the ministry payouts and then streamline current funding? Hire an independent body if yuh want to ensure national team's financial request are accordingly deployed. Show that any sponsorship money acquired is deployed or allocated to national teams.
Yuh does winer if these ministers brains shifted with they intestines so what coming out of their thinking is pure sheet-
The fact is that MoS is spending too much in the wrong directions. We need to upgrade and maintain facilities and, yes, support national teams. By generating corporate funds for the WPL, we reduce the burden on the taxpayer and also introduce companies to sponsoring football again.
The MoS knows exactly how much is being spent on TTFA budgets. In fact it was printed in todays press. Sadly, Mr Tim-Kee cannot do simple arithmetic and continues to peddle lies. At least 4 times this week Tim-Kee has lied to the people of T&T. As Bakes says "Give a man enough rope and he'll hang himself" God bless the PNM treasurer.
-
Bakes, God forbid the PNM get in at the next election. You would have no life. You'd have to find a hobby or a boyfriend or something. Ever thought about petitioning the Olympics to bring in a world bitching event?
God forbid Sancho should ever have surgery on his ass. You would have nowhere to put that ugly bald head of yours. We know you already have a hobby... or maybe a hubby... and a boyfriend, they're one in the same. Whenever they approve the world's first Olympic bitching event I know you'll be right there on the podium handing out the medals.
Think this through. Yuh bitch Tim-Kee becomes President and realises there are no audits since 2008 (Which, actually, he would have know as VP of TTFF). Does he think "Hmm, that's not good, I'd better use some of my funding to correct this pronto so I can show people we are transparent and accountable"? Or does he shrug his shoulders and say "Boy, there's problems to overcome and I'd rather have a new website than be transparent and accountable"?
Well yes, that mkes sense. The FA is so starved for money that the coaches and admin staff haven't been paid for months, there's no money to even send national teams to competitions... but they should take a couple hundred thousand dollars and pay for audits that may or may not buy some PR points with the public. Sounds like sound business judgment to me. Only a colossal dunce like you would equate the expense of revamping a website with that of multi-year audits.
However you want to protect TTFA, even an ambulance chaser like you would recognise the need to be accountable.
Life as an ambulance chaser is actually pretty good... don't knock it because you can't try it.
And as for maths, the famous Bakes, who has known everything about a cabinet note two years before it was produced, yet only found out this week that is was $9.9 million not $9 million and had conditions to be met, needs to stop his :bs: about how he knows everything.
Really?
Announcement from SportsCompany Trinbago:
Government foots $9.9m Arrears Bill for Warriors
The Government of Trinidad and Tobago via a 13 November Cabinet decision, has agreed, through the Ministry of Sport, to provide financial assistance in the amount of $9,964,368.00 to the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA).
Take yuh time.
As for nannyhole, you ain't exactly popular. And I see now you're bitching coz Contro used your real name. Joker.
You see that where? When yuh find me bitching about anybody using my name, real or otherwise, feel free to point it out. Don't confuse me for you. I don't have to be popular online, is not a popularity contest and I have to interact with folks here only as much as i want to. You on the other hand have to work with people in local football (ah know yuh confused by the whole "internet/reality" thing) who can't stand you. Only a matter of time before that is made painfully clear.
Final note, for as much as a foreign interloper like you are disrespecting a native of Trinidad and Tobago on his home soil, as you are calling Tim Kee a "bitch" and all kinda of other names... I seriously hope he gets to be in a position where he could help you realize the errors of his ways. In the least I hope someone from the PNM government takes note of your political stance and tucks it away for future use.
-
How can Mr Sancho get sponsors on board yet the TTFF can't?? Is it because Mr Sancho can be trusted and can guarantee where the money will be spent etc? My thought is that Mr Sancho is proactive and wants to improve the country's sports. But for him to help the organisation need to help themselves and be proactive, get the house in order and improve. Stop the moaning get off their asses get companies on board to help to sponsor and be self sufficient. If my business is struggling the government won't bail me out so why should they keep bailing out the national team because of mismanagement.
-
Bakes, God forbid the PNM get in at the next election. You would have no life. You'd have to find a hobby or a boyfriend or something. Ever thought about petitioning the Olympics to bring in a world bitching event?
God forbid Sancho should ever have surgery on his ass. You would have nowhere to put that ugly bald head of yours. We know you already have a hobby... or maybe a hubby... and a boyfriend, they're one in the same. Whenever they approve the world's first Olympic bitching event I know you'll be right there on the podium handing out the medals.
Think this through. Yuh bitch Tim-Kee becomes President and realises there are no audits since 2008 (Which, actually, he would have know as VP of TTFF). Does he think "Hmm, that's not good, I'd better use some of my funding to correct this pronto so I can show people we are transparent and accountable"? Or does he shrug his shoulders and say "Boy, there's problems to overcome and I'd rather have a new website than be transparent and accountable"?
Well yes, that mkes sense. The FA is so starved for money that the coaches and admin staff haven't been paid for months, there's no money to even send national teams to competitions... but they should take a couple hundred thousand dollars and pay for audits that may or may not buy some PR points with the public. Sounds like sound business judgment to me. Only a colossal dunce like you would equate the expense of revamping a website with that of multi-year audits.
However you want to protect TTFA, even an ambulance chaser like you would recognise the need to be accountable.
Life as an ambulance chaser is actually pretty good... don't knock it because you can't try it.
And as for maths, the famous Bakes, who has known everything about a cabinet note two years before it was produced, yet only found out this week that is was $9.9 million not $9 million and had conditions to be met, needs to stop his :bs: about how he knows everything.
Really?
Announcement from SportsCompany Trinbago:
Government foots $9.9m Arrears Bill for Warriors
The Government of Trinidad and Tobago via a 13 November Cabinet decision, has agreed, through the Ministry of Sport, to provide financial assistance in the amount of $9,964,368.00 to the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA).
Take yuh time.
As for nannyhole, you ain't exactly popular. And I see now you're bitching coz Contro used your real name. Joker.
You see that where? When yuh find me bitching about anybody using my name, real or otherwise, feel free to point it out. Don't confuse me for you. I don't have to be popular online, is not a popularity contest and I have to interact with folks here only as much as i want to. You on the other hand have to work with people in local football (ah know yuh confused by the whole "internet/reality" thing) who can't stand you. Only a matter of time before that is made painfully clear.
Final note, for as much as a foreign interloper like you are disrespecting a native of Trinidad and Tobago on his home soil, as you are calling Tim Kee a "bitch" and all kinda of other names... I seriously hope he gets to be in a position where he could help you realize the errors of his ways. In the least I hope someone from the PNM government takes note of your political stance and tucks it away for future use.
Wow, Mr Google's woken up in Tobago!! God forbid I called your insurance salesman friend Tim-Kee your bitch, after all of the things you've called people over the last few years . So I guess it's ok for an ex pat working for the yankee dollar to insult a government minister.
I don't have to be popular online, is not a popularity contest and I have to interact with folks here only as much as i want to. You on the other hand have to work with people in local football This is the reason you are so repugnant? Because you think people in "reality" will forget that you insulted them online? So, if you were in T&T helping local people with their legal problems you'd be a polite little soldier? That shows how two-faced you really are. As for being popular, I ain't fussed by local losers who spew their PNM party line.
So why is Controversial saying that he posted your real name and a moderator changed it? What's the scoop here, Mr Bakes?
-
Bakes again why are you making things political? I understand you don't like the party in power. But you need to understand, the TTFA has a duty to find some funding on their own and not depend on the government for everything. The government is their main sponsor but it is embarrassing that it is their only one. There is a clear reason why no one in the cooperate world wants nothing to do with Tim Kee and Co. For this problem to be solved some effort of getting funding must happen on the TTFA part. They can't just do nothing at all, and expect to get money when they want. No other sporting body has that luxury. If Tim Kee does nothing, and makes no real attempts to get some kind of funding, then what is he there for? What does he do? As the mayor of Port-of-Spain I felt he would have help with some business connections but no one trusts him, no one. This is so different to Sancho who has gotten some sponsorship for the WPL (even though I think this league/tournament won't be successful), but it is an idea he believes in and is making happen. Tim Kee and Co. do nothing month after month, and when funding is required they expect the government to just give just like that. This is not the way our country should operate.
Bakes you go on and on and on about your inside sources, who the hell cares man, did you ever stop and think your inside sources have a certain agenda and also politically blind. As a citizen of this country you cannot be satisfied with the work Tim Kee has done, if you had real inside sources you will know from the players, to the staff no one is satisfied with the work of Tim Kee how he has destroyed our football. Please don't make this a PNM, UNC thing. If Tim Kee was doing anything at all I would have supported him, but he does absolutely nothing and is just one of a host of problems with our sport.
-
Good points pops. Ah feel Bakes does argue with himself when de internet connection down. And he does still lose dat argument.
-
Wait nah, FS, yuh sayung bakes is a gyal? But what the ass is this? I thought him rass was a prophet.
-
How can Mr Sancho get sponsors on board yet the TTFF can't?? Is it because Mr Sancho can be trusted and can guarantee where the money will be spent etc? My thought is that Mr Sancho is proactive and wants to improve the country's sports. But for him to help the organisation need to help themselves and be proactive, get the house in order and improve. Stop the moaning get off their asses get companies on board to help to sponsor and be self sufficient. If my business is struggling the government won't bail me out so why should they keep bailing out the national team because of mismanagement.
You call that trust? Government acquiring sponsorship trust!think think
Ah smelling one dirty rat and stinking rotten chat- when FS stated that ah ministry - a government minstry could access and accept sponsorship from companies! Yuh EH see see potential for kickbacks- payoffs and money going into pockets for possible contracts or other favours!
This is just pure nonsense or as FS admitted unheard of but allowed to happen and people putting the squeeze onTTFA- it would appear that if one is allowed to be a government minister and hold on to a post as SA to TFFA , that given all that transpired, yuh could see how potential access to siphoning funds could drain that organization.
Now layer all that with some political puppet coming on and now using their status to squeeze the lifeblood from the TTFA? I EH saying that some mismanagement may not have occurred and had there been accountable and transparent measures, just maybe all the tracking of revenues and expenses would not be open to debate.
As a Minister, could he not hire and mandate an independent audit of the association, track the ministry payouts and then streamline current funding? Hire an independent body if yuh want to ensure national team's financial request are accordingly deployed. Show that any sponsorship money acquired is deployed or allocated to national teams.
Yuh does winer if these ministers brains shifted with they intestines so what coming out of their thinking is pure sheet-
-
When TRUTH comes out some of you will be left with egg on ya faces!! You hear the truth from the FS and yet still bitch, moan and think he is lying to you. Have you not seen the mess Warner and his side kick have done to T&T football?? which bubble do you live in? they are as transparent as a house brick!! FS tells you the truth and you fail to believe it, well more fool you.
-
:rotfl:
I think ppl taking their personal social and political issues opinion and creating their own philosophies on how things shold run.
Who does the National football teams represent ?
- Tim Kee ? Warner ? Sancho? UNC ? PNM ? ILP ? You ? Me ? Corporate T&T ? Ppl of Laventille ? Fifa ? Expats ? Locals ? who really ?
All this time I thought is was all of the above. Yet some talking like they in a business of making money for themselves. WE - there's that word again - give all kind of funding, proper and improper to all kind of projects and developments that benefit all kinds of foreign vips, diplomats and ordinary foreign ppl, but the ppl who actually represent us on both local and international stages getting serious jam and are made to be scapegoats of all the corruption issues of the country. The organizers and staff, including the players of TT football are not the cause of the financial demise of Trnidad and Tobago. Even with mismanagement, and all the monies of the Warner era, cannot even come close to the waste and corruption of past TRINIDAD & TOBAGO adminstrators..but if we get rid of Tim Kee or Kamla or whoever, BOOM, things will run smoothly. Like how it run smoothly when we got rid of Camps, Warner, Manning, Panday, Robinson, Chambers & Williams.
The issue here is not Tim Kee and Sancho, it's us.
Yáll seem to think representing TT makes our athletes financially set for life ? Ppl seem to think all you have to do is submit your name, and like you win the lottery. Sure monies must be accounted for, sure checks and balances and audits must be in place, but if a entity,child start of in a hole and ppl just keep dumping dirt on it's head, then sooner or later, there won't be any room to grow,and hope & dreams soon change to realization that the hole is not a place of rebirth but just another grave.
Yes, It is the responsibility of the Government of TT - whichever government of TT - to promote and manage ventures that are in the best Interest of TT. They i.e. we are responsible for all things TT. This includes National representation on the world scene. Yet everyone focuses and admires on everything out there, and only willing to do what is necessary to get themselves as individuals to be part of that out there, and not appreciate what we have as a ppl and show that to the world.
I can't eloquently explain what I'm trying to say, but I'm sure some ppl understand what I mean.. as I said before, I think even on the 1st TT football site, to be successful on the world football stage, we first have to fix our society, indivually and collectively. No easy task, but the back biting and crab in the barrel political and social agendas must be put aside. We here on SW.net can make a start, by working together and pulling together, but if we gonna act like the status quo, then hell, the hole will always remain a grave and not a tunnel to a better place. :( just my opinion.
-
Bakes again why are you making things political? I understand you don't like the party in power. But you need to understand, the TTFA has a duty to find some funding on their own and not depend on the government for everything. The government is their main sponsor but it is embarrassing that it is their only one. There is a clear reason why no one in the cooperate world wants nothing to do with Tim Kee and Co. For this problem to be solved some effort of getting funding must happen on the TTFA part. They can't just do nothing at all, and expect to get money when they want. No other sporting body has that luxury. If Tim Kee does nothing, and makes no real attempts to get some kind of funding, then what is he there for? What does he do? As the mayor of Port-of-Spain I felt he would have help with some business connections but no one trusts him, no one. This is so different to Sancho who has gotten some sponsorship for the WPL (even though I think this league/tournament won't be successful), but it is an idea he believes in and is making happen. Tim Kee and Co. do nothing month after month, and when funding is required they expect the government to just give just like that. This is not the way our country should operate.
Bakes you go on and on and on about your inside sources, who the hell cares man, did you ever stop and think your inside sources have a certain agenda and also politically blind. As a citizen of this country you cannot be satisfied with the work Tim Kee has done, if you had real inside sources you will know from the players, to the staff no one is satisfied with the work of Tim Kee how he has destroyed our football. Please don't make this a PNM, UNC thing. If Tim Kee was doing anything at all I would have supported him, but he does absolutely nothing and is just one of a host of problems with our sport.
let the culling begin my fellow supporters.... it's time to separate the sheep from the goat... the football revolution will bring a new dawn to our football...
-
steups.....it have enough instances of gross incompetence on timkee's part to effect regime change........without resorting to crippling the National teams........... a level of oversight can be insisted upon to protect gov't funds.................jeeezan
-
:rotfl:
I think ppl taking their personal social and political issues opinion and creating their own philosophies on how things shold run.
Who does the National football teams represent ?
- Tim Kee ? Warner ? Sancho? UNC ? PNM ? ILP ? You ? Me ? Corporate T&T ? Ppl of Laventille ? Fifa ? Expats ? Locals ? who really ?
All this time I thought is was all of the above. Yet some talking like they in a business of making money for themselves. WE - there's that word again - give all kind of funding, proper and improper to all kind of projects and developments that benefit all kinds of foreign vips, diplomats and ordinary foreign ppl, but the ppl who actually represent us on both local and international stages getting serious jam and are made to be scapegoats of all the corruption issues of the country. The organizers and staff, including the players of TT football are not the cause of the financial demise of Trnidad and Tobago. Even with mismanagement, and all the monies of the Warner era, cannot even come close to the waste and corruption of past TRINIDAD & TOBAGO adminstrators..but if we get rid of Tim Kee or Kamla or whoever, BOOM, things will run smoothly. Like how it run smoothly when we got rid of Camps, Warner, Manning, Panday, Robinson, Chambers & Williams.
The issue here is not Tim Kee and Sancho, it's us.
Yáll seem to think representing TT makes our athletes financially set for life ? Ppl seem to think all you have to do is submit your name, and like you win the lottery. Sure monies must be accounted for, sure checks and balances and audits must be in place, but if a entity,child start of in a hole and ppl just keep dumping dirt on it's head, then sooner or later, there won't be any room to grow,and hope & dreams soon change to realization that the hole is not a place of rebirth but just another grave.
Yes, It is the responsibility of the Government of TT - whichever government of TT - to promote and manage ventures that are in the best Interest of TT. They i.e. we are responsible for all things TT. This includes National representation on the world scene. Yet everyone focuses and admires on everything out there, and only willing to do what is necessary to get themselves as individuals to be part of that out there, and not appreciate what we have as a ppl and show that to the world.
I can't eloquently explain what I'm trying to say, but I'm sure some ppl understand what I mean.. as I said before, I think even on the 1st TT football site, to be successful on the world football stage, we first have to fix our society, indivually and collectively. No easy task, but the back biting and crab in the barrel political and social agendas must be put aside. We here on SW.net can make a start, by working together and pulling together, but if we gonna act like the status quo, then hell, the hole will always remain a grave and not a tunnel to a better place. :( just my opinion.
A voice of reason rises out of the jabbering masses. Great post, Max G. Possibly the best post this year! :applause:
-
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Men crying that Sancho is the worst sport minister cause he eh bowing to football. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
This how we end up in the=is mess we experiencing with JW and men here just willing to run head first into it again. The TTFA eh showing nothing public, but men trust them more than Sancho :rotfl: :rotfl:
I always say when it comes to playing the game none ah alyuh care bout the welfare, the long-term structure, the transparency of the administration or any accountability if it hamper watching the team play.
Coaches eh getting paid, players eh getting paid, no development plan that I know of, nothing happening with the FA that the could show. They cannot generate 1 main sponsor, yet Sancho and the government is the problem? If Sancho give them $10 million how does that help? What happens when the $10 million done from paying TTFA administrators salary and housing allowances, then what? They still would not have done anything to help themselves. A bunch of lazy, good for nothing, people in the TTFA.
I wonder if the NAAA struggling to get money from the MoS? The Cricket Board? Swimming? Boxing?
Haven't seen such childish tantrum as being displayed here. How about using that energy to demand the TTFA show where all the money they got in the last 2 years gone? No lets focus on Sancho not bowing to the TTFA and "supporters" demands to close his eyes and hand over money.
Jokers the lot.
Flex ask a question "Where do I look?" (Maybe ask Bakes, he always have pertinent,critical info that no other fan have). That alone should raise more questions as to why Tim Kee and Sheldon Phillips not showing the books. Forget 2008, forget 2009, forget 2010, forget 2011, forget 2012, show we the books for 2013-15. How about that. That's more than fair isn't it?
Supporters need to get real.
-
maxos.. like yuh had ah couple "blue"... like how eloquent you put fingers to the keys! :beermug:
-
Hear nah- the ideal of"fixing society" seems like ah ideal but is like to shovel out ah latrine hole the more you shovel the more people dumping on it!
To objective the issues by looking at society is absolving current individuals from the nonsense they all claim to be standing for. The ideals of one man trying to cling to the past ; another coming on as an appointed saviour yet messing down the place and who gets caught up in the middle?
Who profits when a team or individual athletes are successful? Look how quick all them politicians does run for photo opts and give away house where are these same politicians when these athletes catching dey arse?
I say all ah them ah have tuh clean they own sheet and flush before they start sprouting platitudes and virtues.
-
Bakes again why are you making things political? I understand you don't like the party in power. But you need to understand, the TTFA has a duty to find some funding on their own and not depend on the government for everything. The government is their main sponsor but it is embarrassing that it is their only one. There is a clear reason why no one in the cooperate world wants nothing to do with Tim Kee and Co. For this problem to be solved some effort of getting funding must happen on the TTFA part. They can't just do nothing at all, and expect to get money when they want. No other sporting body has that luxury. If Tim Kee does nothing, and makes no real attempts to get some kind of funding, then what is he there for? What does he do? As the mayor of Port-of-Spain I felt he would have help with some business connections but no one trusts him, no one. This is so different to Sancho who has gotten some sponsorship for the WPL (even though I think this league/tournament won't be successful), but it is an idea he believes in and is making happen. Tim Kee and Co. do nothing month after month, and when funding is required they expect the government to just give just like that. This is not the way our country should operate.
Bakes you go on and on and on about your inside sources, who the hell cares man, did you ever stop and think your inside sources have a certain agenda and also politically blind. As a citizen of this country you cannot be satisfied with the work Tim Kee has done, if you had real inside sources you will know from the players, to the staff no one is satisfied with the work of Tim Kee how he has destroyed our football. Please don't make this a PNM, UNC thing. If Tim Kee was doing anything at all I would have supported him, but he does absolutely nothing and is just one of a host of problems with our sport.
Lol... in a sponsorship meeting, a senior marketing official of the NGC says to the TTFA "we are not interested in sponsoring football, the people who support football doh wear yellow"... but I am the one "making things political"?
A man ask me point blank about the information I'm sharing and how it impacts my "sources" and I respond to him... but you doh care about my "sources". It wasn't intended for you fella if yuh doh care then ignore it and move along like everybody else. Not that hard.
-
So Bakes you are someone's lap dog?? Why aren't your so called sources coming on here direct??
-
I come to the dance late. Just too busy to respond.
I couldn't read all the responses but based on Flex's article a major point is where did the nine million go. Was it spent in other areas other than the men's national program. A paper trail can easily substantiate Tim Kee's point.
However, as the TTFA has been infamous for over the years, accountability is not their forte.
Why do they need time to show books from two to three years ago. TK runs his own Insurance Co., is the Mayor of POS and Treasurer of the PNM. Are the accounts for them as atrocious. TK says this is a mess the present administration has inherited. But Mr. TK, you were there during the JW reign. You have admitted that you knew JW used FIFA money for the TTFF and directed it towards the UNC. What did YOU ever do? You could have gone to th MOS, you could have alerted the Press. You could have taken legal action. You sience made you an accomplice. But don't worry this is TT not the USA, nobody will come after you.
Corporate TT ignored the TTFF because they were a bunch of incompetents run by JW and were not financially transparent. We had to tolerate JW' braying that he would save TT's football because of the lack of support. NO ONE will waste money on a incompetent organisation.
Does Sancho have a political agenda. Perhaps. Or perhaps he knows better than most how truly abysmal the FA is and is simply making them pull up their socks. The PP will most likely lose the next election, can you imagine how much the Treasurer of the PNM might be allowed to get away with?
Sancho needs to clear the air as this is our nations most treasured past time as for TK, paper trails would substantiate any claims you have.
-
Good talk VB
-
Bakes again why are you making things political? I understand you don't like the party in power. But you need to understand, the TTFA has a duty to find some funding on their own and not depend on the government for everything. The government is their main sponsor but it is embarrassing that it is their only one. There is a clear reason why no one in the cooperate world wants nothing to do with Tim Kee and Co. For this problem to be solved some effort of getting funding must happen on the TTFA part. They can't just do nothing at all, and expect to get money when they want. No other sporting body has that luxury. If Tim Kee does nothing, and makes no real attempts to get some kind of funding, then what is he there for? What does he do? As the mayor of Port-of-Spain I felt he would have help with some business connections but no one trusts him, no one. This is so different to Sancho who has gotten some sponsorship for the WPL (even though I think this league/tournament won't be successful), but it is an idea he believes in and is making happen. Tim Kee and Co. do nothing month after month, and when funding is required they expect the government to just give just like that. This is not the way our country should operate.
Bakes you go on and on and on about your inside sources, who the hell cares man, did you ever stop and think your inside sources have a certain agenda and also politically blind. As a citizen of this country you cannot be satisfied with the work Tim Kee has done, if you had real inside sources you will know from the players, to the staff no one is satisfied with the work of Tim Kee how he has destroyed our football. Please don't make this a PNM, UNC thing. If Tim Kee was doing anything at all I would have supported him, but he does absolutely nothing and is just one of a host of problems with our sport.
Lol... in a sponsorship meeting, a senior marketing official of the NGC says to the TTFA "we are not interested in sponsoring football, the people who support football doh wear yellow"... but I am the one "making things political"?
A man ask me point blank about the information I'm sharing and how it impacts my "sources" and I respond to him... but you doh care about my "sources". It wasn't intended for you fella if yuh doh care then ignore it and move along like everybody else. Not that hard.
:rotfl: :rotfl: People like you are the problem with this country. Bakes at the end of the day you are a blind sheep and everyone here has realized that, so much so, that you and your "sources" have become, quite frankly, a joke. You need to understand that NGC is not the only potential sponsor and also those words are not official, and came straight from Tim Kee's camp. You also need to understand how sad it as as the Mayor of Port of Spain he can't get not one organization in the cooperate world to help, not one, that is as laughable as any of your posts. These people are lazy, and don't do their job and if they were trying I would support, but their efforts are absolutely zero. There was no Sancho when the national team went to South America and the physio was left off the flight, but Tim Kee was most present. There was no Sancho when the team was sent to hotels without beds. There was no Sancho when the players wanted to boycott the CFU final because the staff and players weren't getting paid for months. I am asking what is the TTFA doing to fix these issues? Is their effort simply asking the government for more and more money? That to me just shows they are satisfied with the bare minimum. The government funding along with some sort of sponsorship would improve a lot of things, maybe afford us something world class. Bakes do continue to play your UNC, PNM games, but please take it out of our football, because it is what has gotten us here in the first place.
-
Bakes again why are you making things political? I understand you don't like the party in power. But you need to understand, the TTFA has a duty to find some funding on their own and not depend on the government for everything. The government is their main sponsor but it is embarrassing that it is their only one. There is a clear reason why no one in the cooperate world wants nothing to do with Tim Kee and Co. For this problem to be solved some effort of getting funding must happen on the TTFA part. They can't just do nothing at all, and expect to get money when they want. No other sporting body has that luxury. If Tim Kee does nothing, and makes no real attempts to get some kind of funding, then what is he there for? What does he do? As the mayor of Port-of-Spain I felt he would have help with some business connections but no one trusts him, no one. This is so different to Sancho who has gotten some sponsorship for the WPL (even though I think this league/tournament won't be successful), but it is an idea he believes in and is making happen. Tim Kee and Co. do nothing month after month, and when funding is required they expect the government to just give just like that. This is not the way our country should operate.
Bakes you go on and on and on about your inside sources, who the hell cares man, did you ever stop and think your inside sources have a certain agenda and also politically blind. As a citizen of this country you cannot be satisfied with the work Tim Kee has done, if you had real inside sources you will know from the players, to the staff no one is satisfied with the work of Tim Kee how he has destroyed our football. Please don't make this a PNM, UNC thing. If Tim Kee was doing anything at all I would have supported him, but he does absolutely nothing and is just one of a host of problems with our sport.
Lol... in a sponsorship meeting, a senior marketing official of the NGC says to the TTFA "we are not interested in sponsoring football, the people who support football doh wear yellow"... but I am the one "making things political"?
A man ask me point blank about the information I'm sharing and how it impacts my "sources" and I respond to him... but you doh care about my "sources". It wasn't intended for you fella if yuh doh care then ignore it and move along like everybody else. Not that hard.
:rotfl: :rotfl: People like you are the problem with this country. Bakes at the end of the day you are a blind sheep and everyone here has realized that, so much so, that you and your "sources" have become, quite frankly, a joke. You need to understand that NGC is not the only potential sponsor and also those words are not official, and came straight from Tim Kee's camp. You also need to understand how sad it as as the Mayor of Port of Spain he can't get not one organization in the cooperate world to help, not one, that is as laughable as any of your posts. These people are lazy, and don't do their job and if they were trying I would support, but their efforts are absolutely zero. There was no Sancho when the national team went to South America and the physio was left off the flight, but Tim Kee was most present. There was no Sancho when the team was sent to hotels without beds. There was no Sancho when the players wanted to boycott the CFU final because the staff and players weren't getting paid for months. I am asking what is the TTFA doing to fix these issues? Is their effort simply asking the government for more and more money? That to me just shows they are satisfied with the bare minimum. The government funding along with some sort of sponsorship would improve a lot of things, maybe afford us something world class. Bakes do continue to play your UNC, PNM games, but please take it out of our football, because it is what has gotten us here in the first place.
I know for a fact that Sancho was involved in the strike. He was in contact with Kenwyne Jones and advise him to make the threat.
And I dont blame him either, someone needed to stand up to the TTFA.
-
OK so we loose again as Sancho and Tim Kee rumble.This is really hurting football.When will football stop being hurt? Vranes get ready to take over the national team after Gold Cup unless something drastically change.
-
Why do they need time to show books from two to three years ago. TK runs his own Insurance Co., is the Mayor of POS and Treasurer of the PNM. Are the accounts for them as atrocious. TK says this is a mess the present administration has inherited. But Mr. TK, you were there during the JW reign. You have admitted that you knew JW used FIFA money for the TTFF and directed it towards the UNC. What did YOU ever do? You could have gone to th MOS, you could have alerted the Press. You could have taken legal action. You sience made you an accomplice. But don't worry this is TT not the USA, nobody will come after you.
I always wonder why people are so keen to align Tim Kee with Jack Warner. Tim Kee was TTFF Treasurer and he stepped down as Treasurer in 2008 because of the financial practices by Warner and company. They forced him out in 2009 (http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=58433.0) because he wouldn't go along with them... yet every time you look around you seeing people accusing him of being in cahoots with Warner.
As for the UNC thing:
But speaking exclusively to the T&T Guardian yesterday, Tim Kee said he knew for a fact that former Warner used his own money to fund at least one UNC event which he (Tim Kee) had knowledge of.
Tim Kee was referring to an invoice he allegedly received from a popular hotel and conference centre in Port-of-Spain which had billed the TTFA for a “UNC Banquet Dinner.”
http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-06-05/ttff-paid-unc-dinner
You (and a couple others) are harping on this as though this was something illegal that Tim Kee knew and should have gone to the press and police with. This was just Jack Warner being Jack Warner. He was using the TTFA money as his bank account and vice versa. He would pay for TTFA events out of his own bank account then pay himself back (or in advance, ten times over) from the TTFA accounts. Commingling of funds (paying for the UNC event from the TTFA account) isn't illegal. It is signifcant only because Jack is trying to prove that some of the alleged bribe money benefited the UNC. Big surprise there.
-
:rotfl: :rotfl: People like you are the problem with this country. Bakes at the end of the day you are a blind sheep and everyone here has realized that, so much so, that you and your "sources" have become, quite frankly, a joke. You need to understand that NGC is not the only potential sponsor and also those words are not official, and came straight from Tim Kee's camp. You also need to understand how sad it as as the Mayor of Port of Spain he can't get not one organization in the cooperate world to help, not one, that is as laughable as any of your posts. These people are lazy, and don't do their job and if they were trying I would support, but their efforts are absolutely zero. There was no Sancho when the national team went to South America and the physio was left off the flight, but Tim Kee was most present. There was no Sancho when the team was sent to hotels without beds. There was no Sancho when the players wanted to boycott the CFU final because the staff and players weren't getting paid for months. I am asking what is the TTFA doing to fix these issues? Is their effort simply asking the government for more and more money? That to me just shows they are satisfied with the bare minimum. The government funding along with some sort of sponsorship would improve a lot of things, maybe afford us something world class. Bakes do continue to play your UNC, PNM games, but please take it out of our football, because it is what has gotten us here in the first place.
Good... and now that we've established that, you can feel free to ignore the rest of my comments :beermug:
-
Bakes again why are you making things political? I understand you don't like the party in power. But you need to understand, the TTFA has a duty to find some funding on their own and not depend on the government for everything. The government is their main sponsor but it is embarrassing that it is their only one. There is a clear reason why no one in the cooperate world wants nothing to do with Tim Kee and Co. For this problem to be solved some effort of getting funding must happen on the TTFA part. They can't just do nothing at all, and expect to get money when they want. No other sporting body has that luxury. If Tim Kee does nothing, and makes no real attempts to get some kind of funding, then what is he there for? What does he do? As the mayor of Port-of-Spain I felt he would have help with some business connections but no one trusts him, no one. This is so different to Sancho who has gotten some sponsorship for the WPL (even though I think this league/tournament won't be successful), but it is an idea he believes in and is making happen. Tim Kee and Co. do nothing month after month, and when funding is required they expect the government to just give just like that. This is not the way our country should operate.
Bakes you go on and on and on about your inside sources, who the hell cares man, did you ever stop and think your inside sources have a certain agenda and also politically blind. As a citizen of this country you cannot be satisfied with the work Tim Kee has done, if you had real inside sources you will know from the players, to the staff no one is satisfied with the work of Tim Kee how he has destroyed our football. Please don't make this a PNM, UNC thing. If Tim Kee was doing anything at all I would have supported him, but he does absolutely nothing and is just one of a host of problems with our sport.
Lol... in a sponsorship meeting, a senior marketing official of the NGC says to the TTFA "we are not interested in sponsoring football, the people who support football doh wear yellow"... but I am the one "making things political"?
A man ask me point blank about the information I'm sharing and how it impacts my "sources" and I respond to him... but you doh care about my "sources". It wasn't intended for you fella if yuh doh care then ignore it and move along like everybody else. Not that hard.
:rotfl: :rotfl: People like you are the problem with this country. Bakes at the end of the day you are a blind sheep and everyone here has realized that, so much so, that you and your "sources" have become, quite frankly, a joke. You need to understand that NGC is not the only potential sponsor and also those words are not official, and came straight from Tim Kee's camp. You also need to understand how sad it as as the Mayor of Port of Spain he can't get not one organization in the cooperate world to help, not one, that is as laughable as any of your posts. These people are lazy, and don't do their job and if they were trying I would support, but their efforts are absolutely zero. There was no Sancho when the national team went to South America and the physio was left off the flight, but Tim Kee was most present. There was no Sancho when the team was sent to hotels without beds. There was no Sancho when the players wanted to boycott the CFU final because the staff and players weren't getting paid for months. I am asking what is the TTFA doing to fix these issues? Is their effort simply asking the government for more and more money? That to me just shows they are satisfied with the bare minimum. The government funding along with some sort of sponsorship would improve a lot of things, maybe afford us something world class. Bakes do continue to play your UNC, PNM games, but please take it out of our football, because it is what has gotten us here in the first place.
I know for a fact that Sancho was involved in the strike. He was in contact with Kenwyne Jones and advise him to make the threat.
And I dont blame him either, someone needed to stand up to the TTFA.
Yes, Sam while what you saying is true........ by saying no sancho, I simply meant he was not the Minister of Sport at the time.
-
:rotfl: :rotfl: People like you are the problem with this country. Bakes at the end of the day you are a blind sheep and everyone here has realized that, so much so, that you and your "sources" have become, quite frankly, a joke. You need to understand that NGC is not the only potential sponsor and also those words are not official, and came straight from Tim Kee's camp. You also need to understand how sad it as as the Mayor of Port of Spain he can't get not one organization in the cooperate world to help, not one, that is as laughable as any of your posts. These people are lazy, and don't do their job and if they were trying I would support, but their efforts are absolutely zero. There was no Sancho when the national team went to South America and the physio was left off the flight, but Tim Kee was most present. There was no Sancho when the team was sent to hotels without beds. There was no Sancho when the players wanted to boycott the CFU final because the staff and players weren't getting paid for months. I am asking what is the TTFA doing to fix these issues? Is their effort simply asking the government for more and more money? That to me just shows they are satisfied with the bare minimum. The government funding along with some sort of sponsorship would improve a lot of things, maybe afford us something world class. Bakes do continue to play your UNC, PNM games, but please take it out of our football, because it is what has gotten us here in the first place.
Good... and now that we've established that, you can feel free to ignore the rest of my comments :beermug:
lolol that's the best response you have, some "lawyer" you are :rotfl:
-
Bakes are you Tim Kees puppet? Is he pulling your strings so you can dance to his tune? All you do is defend him yet when any member comes on here with facts you try and tell them their wrong.
Having FS on here is great as he can tell everyone what's going on as he is dealing with things on a daily basis, again your telling him that his facts are wrong. :frustrated:
I think you know you stirring trouble as you panic when somebody puts your name on here!!
-
Bakes are you Tim Kees puppet? Is he pulling your strings so you can dance to his tune? All you do is defend him yet when any member comes on here with facts you try and tell them their wrong.
Having FS on here is great as he can tell everyone what's going on as he is dealing with things on a daily basis, again your telling him that his facts are wrong. :frustrated:
I think you know you stirring trouble as you panic when somebody puts your name on here!!
I am not telling FS his facts are wrong... I have proven that his "facts" are wrong. Nobody has put my name "on here"... and if they did there'd be nothing to "panic" about as there are many members who know who I am. You seem real defensive of FS and obsessed with me... and I think I've figured out why ::)
When TRUTH comes out some of you will be left with egg on ya faces!! You hear the truth from the FS and yet still bitch, moan and think he is lying to you. Have you not seen the mess Warner and his side kick have done to T&T football?? which bubble do you live in? they are as transparent as a house brick!! FS tells you the truth and you fail to believe it, well more fool you.
Why do you keep thinking this is personal. I can't seem to make you understand that you have a football friendly Minister of Sport. But that doesn't mean the coffers are overflowing: They're not. The men's team is being funded as requested by TTFA. If you want to believe the crap that's being put out for political purposes, more fool you.
-
Wow!! We have used the same phrase, come on Sherlock get a grip. I just think your out to stir trouble!
So you don't mind if I address you by your name on here then??
-
Wow!! We have used the same phrase, come on Sherlock get a grip. I just think your out to stir trouble!
So you don't mind if I address you by your name on here then??
My "name on here" is Bakes... you are free to call whatever name you like but that is the only name I have where you are concerned, and is the only name you will get a response to, if I respond at all. Don't pretend to know more about me than you do because you don't. I find it more than just coincidental that the two of you use the same quirky British expression that no one else on the site uses. Make of that what you will.
-
Wow!! We have used the same phrase, come on Sherlock get a grip. I just think your out to stir trouble!
So you don't mind if I address you by your name on here then??
My "name on here" is Bakes... you are free to call whatever name you like but that is the only name I have where you are concerned, and is the only name you will get a response to, if I respond at all. Don't pretend to know more about me than you do because you don't. I find it more than just coincidental that the two of you use the same quirky British expression that no one else on the site uses. Make of that what you will.
More damn conspiracies afoot. Now it appears Sherlock Bakes thinks I'm posting under another name! Why would I do that? Oh yes, because everything you say is fact while I need to make up a pseudonym to find someone who believes the truth lol The paranoia is becoming unbelievable. More fool you, Bakes!
-
More damn conspiracies afoot. Now it appears Sherlock Bakes thinks I'm posting under another name! Why would I do that? Oh yes, because everything you say is fact while I need to make up a pseudonym to find someone who believes the truth lol The paranoia is becoming unbelievable. More fool you, Bakes!
I made no accusation, just an observation. Whatever conclusions you draw is up to you and your conscience... or alter ego.
-
Bakes are you Tim Kees puppet? Is he pulling your strings so you can dance to his tune? All you do is defend him yet when any member comes on here with facts you try and tell them their wrong.
Having FS on here is great as he can tell everyone what's going on as he is dealing with things on a daily basis, again your telling him that his facts are wrong. :frustrated:
I think you know you stirring trouble as you panic when somebody puts your name on here!!
I am not telling FS his facts are wrong... I have proven that his "facts" are wrong. Nobody has put my name "on here"... and if they did there'd be nothing to "panic" about as there are many members who know who I am. You seem real defensive of FS and obsessed with me... and I think I've figured out why ::)
You have proven nothing! You just duck the questions.
Two very simple questions: For what reason was the condition about accounts placed on the note? When would any sane person expect that condition to be met?
Bakes you never did answer these questions. So, from a legal point of view, please give us your answers.
And a third question: If the Ministry asked for the condition to be met after all of the funds were dispersed and TTFA decided not to comply, what would be the repercussions? How would Sancho answer if the cabinet inquired as to why he dispersed all of the funds without enforcing this condition?
When TRUTH comes out some of you will be left with egg on ya faces!! You hear the truth from the FS and yet still bitch, moan and think he is lying to you. Have you not seen the mess Warner and his side kick have done to T&T football?? which bubble do you live in? they are as transparent as a house brick!! FS tells you the truth and you fail to believe it, well more fool you.
Why do you keep thinking this is personal. I can't seem to make you understand that you have a football friendly Minister of Sport. But that doesn't mean the coffers are overflowing: They're not. The men's team is being funded as requested by TTFA. If you want to believe the crap that's being put out for political purposes, more fool you.
-
The coach cyah coach because he aint all that. The players cyah play this game to save their lives. The ttff cyah ttff because they cyah ttff. And Tim Tee cyah teef because Sancho Panza aint buying what he and bakes and dem selling. The result is ah Jordanian schooling. You leave the confines of ah safe hemisphere to travel into ISIS realm to learn that you cyah play this game like Barcelona. The coach cyah coach. He aint Pep Guardiola. And Tim Teee collecting money on a sneek tip, ala, Jack Austin Warner. Allyuh brave, yes.