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Title: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on July 03, 2015, 03:17:24 PM
Rio 2016 organizers unveil Olympic torch (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150703/sports/rio-2016-organizers-unveil-olympic-torch)
Published on Jul 3, 2015, 1:00 pm AST (T&T Express)

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Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff looks at the Olympic Torch as it's presented during a
ceremony ahead of the 2016 Rio Olympic Games in Brasilia, Brazil, Friday, July 3, 2015.
Brazil will host the 2016 Summer Olympics. (AP Photo/Joedson Alves)


BRASILIA, Brazil (AP) — Rio de Janeiro organizers unveiled the Olympic torch for the 2016 Games on Friday, saying it brings together "movement, innovation and Brazilian flavor."

Organizers said the torch's design was inspired by Brazil's "nature, and the harmonious diversity and energy" of the Brazilian people.

The torch, crafted from recycled aluminum and resin with a satin finish, innovates with different segments that open up when the Olympic flame is passed from one torchbearer to another.

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The 2016 Rio Olympic Games torch stands on display during it's presentation ceremony
in Brasilia, Brazil, Friday, July 3, 2015. Brazil will host the 2016 Summer Olympics.
(AP Photo/Joedson Alves)


After expanding vertically, the segments will reveal "the elements that add the Brazilian flavor," with soil, sea, mountains, sky, and sun represented in the colors of the Brazilian flag — green, yellow, blue, and white.

The unveiling was made in a ceremony attended by Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff in the capital of Brasilia.

Organizers said the Olympic spirit is present in the torch's texture with triangles running the length of its body alluding to the three Olympic values of excellence, friendship and respect, and in the floating effect of its different segments, referring to the efforts of the athletes.

"The design of the Rio 2016 torch was inspired by the Olympic spirit, our country's nature, and the harmonious diversity and energy of our people," said Beth Lula, the brand director for the local organizing committee. "We used the specific stroke of the Rio 2016 brand to design the torch's contours."

About 12,000 torchbearers will carry the Olympic flame across some 300 cities and towns in the 26 Brazilian states and the federal district. The relay is expected to kick off in May in Brasilia and will continue for about 100 days. The torch will travel nearly 20,000 kilometers (12,400 miles) of Brazilian roads and fly some 16,000 kilometers (10,000 miles) over the north and mid-west parts of the country.

"We want to show the world the chemistry that we believe will be born when the Olympic flame meets the warmth of the Brazilian people," local organizing committee president Carlos Nuzman said.

The design was created by Sao Paulo-based design studio Chelles & Hayashi, which won a tender over more than 70 agencies.

Each torch weighs between 1 kilogram (2.2 pounds) and 1.5 kilograms (3.3 pounds) and measures 63.5 centimeters (25 inches) when contracted and 69 centimeters (27 inches) when expanded. Organizers said lightweight materials were used to improve the experience of the torchbearers, as well as a design that induces a grip closer to the torch's center of gravity.
Title: CWC to beam Olympics to 15 million in region
Post by: Socapro on July 03, 2015, 03:33:54 PM
CWC to beam Olympics to 15 million in region (http://ttoc.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4712:cwc-to-beam-olympics-to-15-million-in-region&catid=2:latest-news&Itemid=233&utm_content=buffer3e848&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
Tuesday, 21 April 2015 03:46 (TTOC.org)

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Brian Collins, left, managing director of Flow and Columbus Communications for the Southern Caribbean; Steve Stoute, chairman CBI, Sports Minister Brent Sancho, John Reid, president, CWC consumer group, and Brian Lewis, T&T Olympic Committee president pose for a photo at yesterday’s media conference to announce CWC Communications as the official broadcast sponsor and media partner with CANOC Broadcasting Inc for next year’s Rio Olympics. PHOTO: SEAN NERO

More than 15 million people across the Caribbean will benefit from a strategic broadcast rights deal agreed and signed between Cable and Wireless Communications and CANOC Broadcasting Inc to televise performances of regional athletes at the Rio 2016 Olympics from the opening to closing ceremonies.
 
The announcement was made by CANOC CEO Larry Romany at a media conference at the Hyatt Regency, Port-of-Spain, yesterday.
 
It means that viewers in this part of the world will no longer be saddled with the North American perspective of the games since this is where Caribbean broadcasters usually access their feeds.
 
CANOC, a subsidiary of the Caribbean Association of National Olympic Committees, has secured the exclusive Olympic content rights across all platforms to 20 English-speaking countries, as well as non-exclusive rights in ten non-English speaking countries throughout the region.
 
In an effort to ensure that material packaged met international standards, CANOC enlisted the services of global sports broadcaster ESPN to achieve this. ESPN will also recruit the best sporting minds in the Caribbean to deliver commentary before and after athletes compete.
 
Romany said the production deal with ESPN will cost US$5 million but he declined comment on the value of CWC’s investment as the exclusive telecoms partner.
 
Like Romany, John Reid, president of CWC Consumer Group, did not disclose the value of the deal but was clear it was arguably the biggest of its kind in the region.
 
“This is a coming out event for us. This is a way to prove to the people that we are going to put our money where our mouth is. I think this is absolutely critical for us,” Reid said.
 
Under the agreement, CWC customers will view the games across 12 of its channels, including its video on the demand service.
 
Romany said bars and restaurants would also not be blocked from carrying the broadcasts.
Title: Re: Thread for Rio 2016 Olympics: 5th ~ 21st August 2016
Post by: Socapro on July 03, 2015, 03:35:28 PM
Link to official website: http://www.rio2016.com/en
Title: Re: Thread for Rio 2016 Olympics: 5th~21st August 2016
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 03, 2015, 08:40:46 PM
Link to official website: http://www.rio2016.com/en

Easy dey Soca.. We still a good year from this. Thanks for keeping us up to date  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on July 04, 2015, 07:03:47 AM
Rio 2016 Summer Olympics (http://www.rio2016.com/en/the-games/olympic/sports/athletics)
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Date (Open): Friday 5 August 2016 (Athletics starts from Friday 12 August 2016)
Date (Close): Sunday 21 August 2016 

Time: 09:30 to 23:00 (Day 1);
          09:30 to 23:30 (Day 2);
          09:30 to 22:30 (Day 3);
          09:30 to 23:00 (Day 4);
          09:30 to 23:00 (Day 5);
          09:30 to 23:15 (Day 6);
          09:30 to 22:45 (Day 7);
          08:00 to 23:00 (Day 8);
          20:10 to 23:00 (Day 9);
          09:30 to Closing Ceremony (Day 10);
 
Venue: João Havelange Olympic Stadium, Rio de Janeiro
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The Estádio Olímpico João Havelange (English: João Havelange Olympic Stadium) is a multi-use stadium located in the neighbourhood of Engenho de Dentro in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. It is used mostly for football matches and athletics and is the home field of the football club Botafogo. The stadium will be an athletics venue for the 2016 Summer Olympics and 2016 Summer Paralympics.
The stadium's capacity is intended to be increased to 60,000 for the Games.

Organiser: IOC

News/Videos/Schedules/Startlists/Results:
http://www.rio2016.com/en
http://www.rio2016.com/en/the-games/olympic/sports/athletics
http://www.olympic.org/rio-2016-summer-olympics
http://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/athletics-timetable-rio-2016-olympics
https://www.facebook.com/rio2016

Live Streams for Rio 2016 Olympics: Will post here once confirmed
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Rio 2016 Summer Olympics

The 2016 Summer Olympics (Portuguese: Jogos Olímpicos de Verão de 2016), officially known as the Games of the XXXI Olympiad, are the thirty-first Summer Olympic Games, the world's largest international multi-sport event that is held every four years. The 2016 Summer Olympics are commonly known as Rio 2016, as this competition will be held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
 
The host city of Rio de Janeiro was announced at the 121st IOC Session held in Copenhagen, Denmark, on October 2, 2009. The other finalists were Madrid, Spain; Chicago, United States; and Tokyo, Japan. Rio will become the first South American city to ever host the Summer Olympics, the second city in Latin America to host the event after Mexico City in 1968, and the first since 2000 to be held in the Southern Hemisphere.
 
The games will take place from 5 August to 21 August 2016 and more than 10,500 athletes from 205 National Olympic Committees (NOCs) will take part in this sporting event.  The games will feature 28 sports — including rugby sevens and golf, which were added by the International Olympic Committee in 2009.
 
These sporting events will take place across 33 venues spread across 4 regions of the city namely - Barra, Copacabana, Deodoro, and Maracanã.
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1 Year to the Rio 2016 Olympic Games
https://www.youtube.com/v/KQ7TCUSZYIU

1 year to go to realise the dream of staging the biggest sporting event in the world: the Olympic Games!
Title: A year away, Olympic organizers counting on sun and samba
Post by: Socapro on July 28, 2015, 03:47:30 PM
A year away, Olympic organizers counting on sun and samba (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150728/sports/a-year-away-olympic-organizers-counting-on-sun-and-samba)
Published on Jul 28, 2015, 2:00 pm AST (T&T Express)

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The Olympic Park which will host Rio's 2016 Olympics is seen under construction in Rio de
Janeiro, Brazil, Monday, July 27, 2015. The Olympics will offer 28 sports, 300 events, 10,500
athletes and, with the exception of five football venues, it's all packed into Rio for 17 days.
The Paralympics add two more weeks, and thousands more athletes. (AP Photo/Leo Correa)


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Construction continues at the Tennis Center at the Olympic Park for the 2016 Olympics in
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Monday, July 27, 2015. A last-minute rush seems inevitable, and late
work is sure to drive up costs. (AP Photo/Leo Correa)


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Crews work on the construction of the Carioca Arenas at the Olympic Park for the 2016
Olympics in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Monday, July 27, 2015. Part of the Olympic Park will serve
afterward as Brazil's Olympic training center, mostly for elite athletes. (AP Photo/Leo Correa)


RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — Rio de Janeiro conjures clear images of sun, samba and soccer. Organizers of the Olympics that start a year from now hope that's what people remember after the games — not images of polluted water, inefficient transportation and incomplete venues.

The Rio Olympics that start Aug. 5, 2016, follow last year's World Cup, which ended with mixed results.

A year of protests over lavish spending on soccer stadiums dissolved once the World Cup started. Fans from around the world embraced Brazil, and the stadiums looked ready enough on television even if many were still incomplete. Several have become underused white elephants" that cost local governments millions to maintain.

Now come the Summer Games, which are more complex and put Brazil under scrutiny again.

Instead of a one-month tournament with 730 players, the 16-day Olympics feature 28 sports, 300 events and 10,500 athletes; almost all in a metropolitan area of about 12 million people.

Construction got off to a slow start. And so did ticket sales.

"If you compare our numbers with the classic London numbers, you're going to see that we got off a little late," said Mario Andrada, spokesman for the Rio Olympics. He called Brazilians "last-minute people."

"But there's no doubt in our minds that we are going to sell out the tickets."

It will take years to know if the Olympics improved life for  Cariocas, as Rio residents are known. And if so, who profited the most from spending $12 billion in public and private money.

The head of the local organizing committee Carlos Nuzman says Rio will be the Olympic city with the "greatest transformation," surpassing Tokyo in 1964 and Barcelona in 1992.

An Olympics can change a city's reputation for good or bad.

Beijing showcased a rising power, but outsiders also glimpsed the control of an authoritarian state. Athens took a beating for preparations __ similar to Rio — and some of Greece's financial problems are linked Olympic spending.

At quick look at preparations with South America's first games opening Aug. 5, 2016.

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WATER POLLUTION

The sailing and wind-surfing venue in Guanabara Bay, and the rowing and canoeing venue at the Rodrigo de Freitas lagoon, feature beautiful backdrops spoiled by sewage-filled water and floating debris. Rio officials promised cleaning the bay would be an Olympic legacy. But Rio Mayor Eduardo Paes has said that won't happen. A dramatic photo in the Rio newspaper O Globo recently showed trash wrapped around the tail of a dolphin in the bay.

Rio hopes to get by with stopgaps; a fleet of rubbish collection boats and barricades built where garbage gushes in from hilltop slums.

Some sailors competing in test events in Rio have called Guanabara Bay "an open sewer," and many have tried to minimize contact with the water to avoid illnesses.

"I don't think I would go swimming in that lagoon," said Matt Smith, head of the World Rowing Federation.

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LEGACY PROJECTS

The new Olympic golf course and the athletes' village will become luxury real estate develpments after the Olympics. The units at the golf course start at about $2 million. The projects involve public and private money, with much of the income going to the private developers.

Two largely government-funded developments are a subway extension from central Rio into Barra da Tijuca — the heart of the games — and rapid transit bus lines that reach many corners of the city. The subway line extension faces a tight deadline.

"The subway line is going to be delivered just before the games, so of course we're worried about that," said Sidney Levy, CEO of the organizing committee.

Part of the Olympic Park will serve afterward as Brazil's Olympic training center. A section of the Olympic Park will become residential space. Some of that space has yet to be vacated with residents in a slum called Vila Autodromo holding out for better compensation.

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CRIME

Street crime in Rio has spiked as drug traffickers in the city's slums — known as favelas — fight back against police and soldiers trying to "pacify" the neighborhoods. Muggings are increasing in the upscale south and west of the city, which will host most of the Olympics. A cyclist was recently stabbed to death at the Olympic rowing venue.

City officials are confident the problems won't leak over to the Olympics.

"The World Cup was organized without any major incidents, and we expect that this will be the same for the games," said Christophe Dubi, Olympic Games Executive Director.

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INSPIRATION

President Dilma Rousseff, whose popularity has plunged as the country slides in recession, said recently she will be more involved in Olympic preparations. She's hoping the Olympics will improve the country's mood, and boost her poll numbers.

Levy says the games should inspire Brazilians, and they could use some.

State-run oil company Petrobras lost $2.1 billion in a kickback scheme that saw firm executives take bribes for awarding inflated contracts. In June, police arrested the CEOs of two of Brazil's largest construction companies, including the head of Odebrecht, which helped build many World Cup and Olympic venues.

Levy, the CEO, has repeated often that Rio is running clean games devoid of corruption.

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CONSTRUCTION

A last-minute rush seems inevitable, and late work is sure to drive up costs.

Levy seems relaxed, particularly with the two biggest stadiums — both soccer facilities — already constructed.

"We're not building anything big," he said. "We're not building a cathedral."

A study by Said Business School at Oxford University of Olympic Games since 1960 showed each one had cost overruns.

"No other type of megaproject is this consistent regarding cost overrun," authors Bent Flyvberg and Allison Stewart wrote.  "Other project types are typically on budget from time to time, but not the Olympics."
Title: Triathletes shrug off water warnings, swim in Rio
Post by: Socapro on July 30, 2015, 01:15:57 PM
Triathletes shrug off water warnings, swim in Rio (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150731/sports/triathletes-shrug-off-water-warnings-swim-in-rio)
Published on Jul 31, 2015, 4:15 pm AST (T&T Express)

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RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — Triathletes swam in waters off Copacabana Beach Friday ahead of weekend Olympic test events, despite published warnings that water in the area was "unfit" for swimming.

The website of the Rio de Janeiro environmental agency said the water, which has been declared unfit ten previous times this year, was unsafe based on the results of a Monday water test.

Officials publicly insisted athletes were safe and stuck to the competition schedule. Later in the day, Rodrigo Garcia, the sports director for the local Olympic organizing committee, said that new, unpublished water test results show that the area is suitable for the competition, but provided no details on the results. The Rio environmental agency didn't respond to requests for comment.

The situation prompted new concern about Rio's polluted waters. On Thursday, The Associated Press released the results of a five-month investigation that showed that Olympic venues are rife with disease-causing viruses and bacteria.

The AP study showed that the spot where athletes were entering the water on Copacabana Beach had a minimal reading of over 2 million human adenovirus per liter — that's 2,000 times the reading that water experts in the U.S. say would be considered highly alarming if seen on beaches in the U.S. or Europe. At the high end, Copacabana registered 49 million adenoviruses per liter in the AP study.

Human adenovirus multiply in the intestinal and respiratory tracts of people. These are viruses that are known to cause respiratory and digestive illnesses, including explosive diarrhea and vomiting, but can also lead to more serious heart, brain and other diseases.

More than 150 athletes are competing in an Olympic qualifier and Paratriathlon event beginning Saturday. Teams gathered on Copacabana Beach said the International Triathlon Union (ITU) gave them guarantees the water was safe.

"The information we have is that it's safe to swim," said Amanda Duke, team manager for the U.S. paratriathlon team.

But officials with the group may consider pushing for expanded testing of Rio's waters, said Shin Otsuka, executive board member of ITU. Currently, tests evaluate bacteria, but not viruses.

"The ITU has contracted with the local organizing committee to conduct the water-quality tests, and we trust the results," Shin Otsuka, executive board member of the International Triathlon Union, said through an interpreter. "The outcome of the testing has met the standards."

But "we are aware that at other bays and lakes (in Rio) that the virus situation is terrible," Otsuka said.

Athletes said that the conditions of the water appeared better than they were expecting. But water experts and the government's own pollution monitoring officials all note that sewage pollution typically isn't something that can be seen by the naked eye.

Because conditions of ocean waters tend to be volatile, it is difficult to determine just how much of a risk athletes faced swimming in the water on Friday, said David Zee, an oceanography professor at Rio's state university.

"The fluctuation depends on the tide. Every 12 hours we have a high tide and a low tide. For sure during high tide the water quality is much better than in the low tide," he said. Other factors such as winds, temperature and whether or not it rained recently can also affect water quality.

But "if the test was done and the water was considered unfit, without a doubt there's a certain risk."

The Rio de Janeiro state government and the state environmental agency in press releases blasted the AP report as being alarmist and said it was unfair to judge Rio's waters based on viral counts, limits of which are not designated in Brazilian legislation. They are also not set limits in the U.S. or the EU. The agency also questioned the qualifications of the laboratory where the AP samples were analyzed.

Zee, the oceanography professor, rejected the government's response, saying that in Brazil "it's natural that the authorities react saying that 'everything is fine,' but everything is not fine."

Zee, who has long researched pollution in Guanabara Bay, added that the AP testing "was done in a trustworthy lab."

The area that was ruled unfit by the Rio environmental agency for swimming earlier this week was based levels of fecal coliforms, which are single-celled organisms that live in the intestines of humans and animals. Fecal coliforms can suggest the presence of cholera, dysentery, hepatitis A and typhoid.

Costa Rican triathlete Leonardo Chacon said he doesn't do anything differently to protect his body before going into the water in Rio, but plans to take anti-parasitic pills after he leaves to make sure he doesn't get sick. Those pills would not protect him against viruses.

With the Olympics a year away, he felt the risk was worth it.

"We know we are exposed to viruses, maybe to health problems later, but in my case, I have invested so much to prepare myself for this and I want this to happen because I can't recuperate this investment any other way other than competing and winning the points that I need to win."
Title: Toyota invests $$ in Rio medal quest
Post by: Socapro on July 31, 2015, 04:31:37 PM
Toyota invests $$ in Rio medal quest (http://www.guardian.co.tt/sport/2015-07-30/toyota-invests-rio-medal-quest)
By Jelani Beckles (T&T Guardian)
Published: Thursday, July 30, 2015

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Following T&T’s best ever medal haul in the history of the Pan Amercian Games, the national track and field athletes received an added boost as Toyota has agreed to contribute $750,000 towards the T&T Olympic Committee’s Athlete Welfare and Preparation Fund.

The announcement was made yesterday at the T&T Olympic House on Abercromby Street, Port-of-Spain.

Toyota T&T Limited will contribute $150,000 per year for the next five years leading up to the 2020 Olympic Games in Tokyo.

President of the T&T Olympic Committee (TTOC) Brian Lewis said Toyota’s involvement is timely after T&T won eight medals (three gold, three silver and two bronze) at the recently concluded Pan Am Games in Toronto, Canada. Speaking about Toyota’s sponsorship, Lewis said, “In March this year Toyota Motor Corporation signed a historic agreement with the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to become a top partner. Toyota Motor Corporation is now a top partner of the IOC in the vehicle and mobility category.

“In T&T, Toyota has made a specific contribution to the ten or more Olympic gold medals by the year 2024 for the Athlete Welfare and Preparation Fund during the course of the five-year partnership. In addition Toyota will become the official vehicle and mobility partner of the TTOC, supporting our transport needs where needed and within certain constraints.”

Sean Shaffie, marketing manager at Toyota, said the president and CEO of Toyota signed on as an official Olympic sponsor for the 2020 Games, a deal reportedly valued at $835,000,000 US dollars. Shaffie stated this was one of the reasons Toyota T&T Limited decided to get involved.

Shaffie said: “Toyota T&T Limited is proud to announce this morning that for the next five years, starting today, we will be supporting our Olympic contingent via the T&T Olympic Committee to help them prepare for the 2020 Olympics. Not only because our parent company is an official Olympic sponsor, but because it is part of our burning desire to coordinate and contribute to Olympic success for our athletes.”

Toyota’s marketing manager said: “Achieving success has become a symbolic part of Toyota in T&T and in the rest of the world. We have been the number one selling branch for many years across the region and connecting our success with our Olympic athletes came naturally.”

Shaffie said Toyota has always been a supporter of local athletes and culture. “Toyota T&T Limited has always been an advocate for sport and local culture. We have been supporting sporting initiatives and the arts since inception and continue to do so without hesitation.

“Our athletes are our pride and joy and we (corporate T&T) need to show our love and support to these young men and women. Give them the encouragement to make us all proud. Their committment gives us great pleasure.”
Title: TTOC head says no room for error in Rio
Post by: Socapro on August 01, 2015, 02:41:37 AM
TTOC head says no room for error in Rio (http://www.guardian.co.tt/sport/2015-07-31/ttoc-head-says-no-room-error-rio)
By Sean Nero (T&T Guardian)
Published: Friday, July 31, 2015

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TTOC President Brian Lewis

Even as Olympic hopefuls engage in keen international competition to register qualifying times for Rio 2016, Sports Minister Brent Sancho and T&T Olympic Committee (TTOC) president Brian Lewis are confirming that new and enhanced arrangements for the preparation of athletes ahead of the games are in place.

But neither official was willing to disclose, at this time, the level of investment required to boost T&T’s chances at the games. In a joint interview with the T&T Guardian, they assured the national community and most importantly the athletes and their representing bodies that this country’s medal push for Rio, would be unlike any before.

Lewis said plans for Rio 2016 were “going excellent,” and explained that a pre-qualification figure could not be disclosed because the approach by his executive, the minister and his staff, as well as national sporting organisations was integrated.

“Plans are going extremely well. The Olympic Committee continues to work very closely with the minister of sport and the ministry of sport, the Sport Company (of T&T) and all the stakeholders. We continue to put things in place. The fact is we are approaching a very crucial milestone in the context of Rio 2016, which is one year to go, from the 5th of August. It is very crucial that we continue to work together because with one year to go, there is no room and margin for error where our athletes are concerned,” Lewis said.

Sancho said his ministry staff met with officials of sporting organisation under the Olympic charter for a programme called the Podium Push.

The minister said, “We have asked the different disciplines to go out and come back to us with what they believe their athletes need to be podium ready for 2016. We are just waiting to put the final touches on that. We will now invest further to make sure that the athletes get everything for the next year to make sure that we achieve the lofty, but very attainable goals set by the TTOC president.”

The success at the Pan American Games said Lewis provided greater clarity in terms of who have qualified, while helping his executive to understand what athletes needed to do to qualify. In his view the Podium Push was an ideal complement to the 10 or more Olympic Gold Medals by 2024 programme.

Lewis said, “The Olympic Committee is very happy that everything is being done and we are having the positive, necessary and on-going discussions. I am confident once nothing comes in the way of that our athletes will have no reason to say they weren’t as prepared as they could for Rio 2016. We are on the same page with the minister and I feel confident that I can say that because he has been there before and he understands what is required and that it is about action and not talk.”

Sancho praised the TTOC’s 10 or More Olympic Gold Medal initiative, which in his view epitomized the kind of healthy relationship national sporting organisations needed to establish with the corporate sector.

“It’s a wonderful idea. It’s a true testament to the innovative idea that is set out by the TTOC. At the end of the day, I think any financial rewards at the end of it, is something that could be part and parcel of a drive for an athlete to compete and do well, as well as the national pride that comes with doing well for your country. It’s a truly ingenious idea,” he said.

Lewis said a number of joint projects were in the pipeline between the TTOC and the ministry of sport which includes the Elite Athlete Housing Programme and the setting up of the Good Governance Commission.

“So there is a lot taking place. We all recognise that we can’t continue to do the same things over and over and expect different results. The demands now being placed on our athletes and sports and sport administrators means we all need collectively to rise above the challenge,” said the TTOC official.
Title: News Release: TTOC celebrates ‘One year to Rio Olympics 2016’
Post by: Socapro on August 05, 2015, 07:54:00 PM
News Release: TTOC celebrates ‘One year to Rio Olympics 2016’ (http://www.ttoc.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5046:news-release-ttoc-celebrates-one-year-to-rio-olympics-2016&catid=2:latest-news&Itemid=233&utm_content=buffer6352b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
Wednesday, 05 August 2015 13:14 (TTOC.org)

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TTOC President Brian Lewis (left) presents 2015 Pan American Games medal bonus winners (2nd left to right) Emmanuel Callender, Keshorn Walcott and Dan-Neil Telesford at Olympic House.

Port of Spain, Trinidad - The Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee (TTOC) hosted a ‘One year to Rio 2016’ acknowledgement at Olympic House in unison with the rest of the world in marking the one-year countdown to Rio 2016 Olympic Games on August 5th.

The TTOC used this landmark day to celebrate the road to Rio and commemorate the athletes that have achieved excellence at the 2015 Pan American Games in Toronto.

The proceedings opened with a short video presentation highlighting team TTO’s performance at the recently concluded 2015 Pan American Games. TTOC’s President, Brian Lewis, reinforced the vision of achieving the 10 or more gold medals by the year 2024. “Toronto 2015 and the performances of our athletes started to make some people believe that it (#10Golds24) may have been possible; that it wasn’t far fetched and unrealistic,” he stated.

“Rio 2016 therefore, in the context of 10 or more Olympic gold medals by the year 2024 is going to be very important because thereafter comes Tokyo 2020 and then 2024,” he continued.
 
Toronto 2015 Chef de Mission, Diane Henderson led the Trinidad and Tobago Pan American Games contingent of 180 athletes and officials in fourteen different sporting disciplines. The T&T contingent left Toronto with 8 medals, surpassing the medal haul of the Guadalajara Games in 2011.

In celebration of the one-year mark to the Rio Olympics 2016, the TTOC presented Trinidad and Tobago’s medalists from the 2015 Pan American Games with their medal bonuses. Of the 13 athletes were Keshorn Walcott, Dan-Neil Telesford and Emmanuel Callender.
 
The complete list of medal winners include: Cleopatra Borel, Keshorn Walcott, George Bovell III, Njisane Phillip, Mikel Thomas (Individual medalist), Rondel Sorrillo, Emmanuel Callender, Keston Bledman Dan-Neil Telesford (4 x 100m Relay team), Renny Quow, Jarrin Solomon, Machel Cedenio and Emmanuel Mayers (4 x 400m Relay team).
 
With the conclusion of the Pan American Games, the TTOC moves forward with full force in preparation for the Olympics in 2016. The games will take place from 5th – 21st August 2016 in four regions throughout the city.
 
Thank you to other distinguished guests Olympic gold medalist Hasley Crawford, President of the National Association of Athletics Administration Ephraim Serette and Senator Elton Prescott SC for attending.
 
The TTOC would also like to thank our official partners Guardian Group Limited, National Lotteries Control Board (NLCB), Toyota, Lisa Communications, ScotiaBank, Adidas, BPTT, Columbus Communications for their continued support.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 06, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
1 Year to the Rio 2016 Olympic Games
https://www.youtube.com/v/KQ7TCUSZYIU

1 year to go to realise the dream of staging the biggest sporting event in the world: the Olympic Games!


TTOC celebrates One year to Rio 2016
https://www.youtube.com/v/6s5NB51_LJM

The Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee (TTOC) hosted a ‘One year to Rio 2016’ acknowledgement at Olympic House in unison with the rest of the world in marking the one-year countdown to Rio 2016 Olympic Games on August 5th.

The TTOC used this landmark day to celebrate the road to Rio and commemorate the athletes that have achieved excellence at the 2015 Pan American Games in Toronto.


ONE YEAR TO RIO 2016

Today marks one year to go for the opening ceremony to the 2016 Olympic Games which will be held in Rio de Janeiro.

The Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee held a small ceremony at their head office marking the countdown to Brazil.
 
Caston Cupid was there for the occasion and tells us more.

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T&T OLYMPIANS ON COUNTDOWN TO OLYMPICS

With 365 days to go to the one of grandest events in sport, the Olympic Games, some of T&T's Olympians have been in touch with CNC3.

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ATO ON OLYMPIC PROSPECTS
 
Four-time Olympic Medalist Ato Boldon speaks with CNC3 on Day 1 of the countdown to Rio 2016.

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Title: Lewis: No margin for error
Post by: Socapro on August 06, 2015, 01:32:56 PM
Lewis: No margin for error (http://www.guardian.co.tt/sport/2015-08-06/lewis-no-margin-error)
By Jelani Beckles (T&T Guardian)
Published: Thursday, August 6, 2015

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GOLD MEDALLIST TO GOLD MEDALLIST: Former olympic gold medalist Hasely Crawford right presents javelin sensation and current gold medalist Keshorn Walcott with a cheque during a press conference hosted by the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic committee, Abercromby Street, Port of Spain, yesterday. PHOTO: ABRAHAM DIAZ

President of the T&T Olympic Committee (TTOC) Brian Lewis said there is no margin for error and all obstacles must be removed, as the T&T athletes begin their final preparations towards the 2016 Olympic Games.

The 2016 Olympic Games begin on August 5 next year in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil.

Lewis, speaking at a press conference yesterday at the Olympic House, Abercromby Street, Port-of-Spain, said: “Today around the world the Olympic movement is being celebrated - one year to go to the opening ceremony of the Rio 2016 Games. A journey for some that started when they were five years old and will culminate in Rio.”

He added: “There is no margin for error, as our athletes, coaches and administrators will tell you we are at a particular point where everything that can be done, must be done. Whatever obstacles there are, they must be removed. Whatever door is closed, must be opened. Whatever channels are blocked must be freed.”

The TTOC president said that next year’s Olympics is the beginning of the goal for ten or more gold medals by 2024.

“A couple years ago I had a vision for ten or more Olympic gold medals by the year 2024. Initially the majority of the people I spoke to were negative. But there are a couple I would like to mention because they were an inspiration at that point in time. One of the first people I had that discussion with was Keshorn Walcott. I then spoke to Hasely Crawford and he was supportive.”

Lewis also stated that National Association of Athletics Administrations (NAAA) president Ephraim Serrette, Senator Elton Prescott Secretary General Annette Knott and the TTOC executive also showed their support.

Lewis said the performance of the national athletes at the Pan American Games made more people believe that ten or more gold medals by 2024 is possible. “The performances of our athletes at the Pan Am Games in Toronto started to make some people believe that it may be possible and after all it was not far fetched and unrealistic.”

T&T won eight medals at the recently concluded Pan American Games, the most in the country’s history.

Lewis has also spoken to mayor of Port-of-Spain Raymond Tim Kee about making Lord Harris Square into an Olympic Village and calling the surrounding area Olympic Neighbourhood.

Pan American medal winners Keshorn Walcott, Emmanuel Callender and Dan-neil Telesford were all in attendance to receive their medal incentives. Walcott won gold in the javelin, while Callender and Telesford were part of the 4X100m men’s team that won bronze.

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Keshorn Walcott, Ephraim Serrette President NAAA & Hasley Crawford at Olympic House.

National Association of Athletics Administrations (NAAA) president Ephraim Serrette, said the relationship between the TTOC and the NAAA is excellent. “I always believe in team and as the president indicated we have an excellent working relationship, we understand what it takes to get to a high level. I am very fortunate to be at the helm of the Association at this time and have the support of people like Hasely Crawford who understands what it takes to get to the top.”
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 06, 2015, 03:49:07 PM
I noticed that Ato mentioned that some established Trini athletes are headed his way to train so I wonder who they are. I'm pretty excited but as much as I want MLA to be in his camp I don't think she will be but I still hope so.

Hoping for all of our sprinters to benefit from his knowledge and expertise.
Title: Bumpy road to Rio Games 2016
Post by: Socapro on August 08, 2015, 11:14:25 AM
Bumpy road to Rio Games 2016 (http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,215341.html)
By JONATHAN RAMNANANSINGH Saturday, August 8 2015 (T&T Newsday)

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Twelve national senior Olympic cycling hopefuls have pedalled onto a bumpy road to Rio de Janeiro 2016 having been told by Sport Company of Trinidad and Tobago (SporTT) officials that they will be unable to finance the riders’ trip to Santiago, Chile, for next month’s Pan American Cycling Championships.

The dreaded news was relayed to all riders and/or their representatives at an emergency meeting held by the Trinidad and Tobago Cycling Federation earlier this week. Ultimately, the 12 cyclists will now have to pay their own way to the Championships.

As it stands, the Pan Am tourney serves as the final qualification meet for the three upcoming UCI World Cup events.

These World Cups will be held in Cali, Colombia (October 30), Cambridge, New Zealand (December 5) and Hong Kong, China (January 16, 2016). Ironically, they also serve as qualifiers for next year’s World Cycling Championships in London, which is the final stage for riders to affirm Olympic qualification.

The affected cyclists are London Olympic Men’s Sprint fourthplaced Njisane Phillip, Quincy Alexander, Kwesi Browne, Jude Codrington, Justin Roberts, Varun Maharajh, Akil Campbell, Gavyn Nero, Jovian Gomez and females Jodi Goodridge, Aziza Browne and Teneil Campbell.

These 12 riders have now been given no other option but to source their own funding to represent Trinidad and Tobago on their quest for an Olympic spot.

Altogether, the national cycling contingent is in need of approximately $300,000 to fund the entire trip and they have all now been forced to find these monies by whatever means in just under three weeks.

However, individual funds will vary for each competing cyclist due to their event participation and equipment.

Upon receiving the news from TT CF last week, the cyclists/ managers were obviously disgruntled.

But, in speaking with Minister of Sport Brent Sancho yesterday, he revealed that a meeting with TT CF president Robert Farrier on this pressing matter would be held over this weekend to hopefully find a solution.

“I was supposed to meet with the cycling president today (yesterday) to talk about it more but we both had engagements in separate parts of the country but we’ll try to link up once more this weekend,” said the former 2006 World Cup player.

“We cannot leave out our Olympic cycling hopefuls at all.

The Ministry of Sport, just like SporTT , is strapped for cash though. We definitely have to help them source these funds, I have to try.” However, Sancho directed his guns at the local football fraternity, claiming that his government has already overstretched their financial promises to the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TT FA), and now, other sports are suffering.

“SporTT is really cash-strapped because they were engaged in a lot this year,” added the Minister of Sport. “You see we had to continuously extend ourselves as it relates to football, and this is my point about this whole football situation, they are suppressing the other sports nationwide. It is only one pie we have and everybody has to share it. People are not realising that. Football is getting funds from Concacaf and FIFA and they are not being fair to the other sports. This is the reality of the situation. We are working on it.” Phillip, Alexander, Roberts, Codrington and Browne are hopeful to fly the red, white and black in the Pan Am Cycling Sprint and Team Sprint events.

And for the first time in national sporting history, TT fielded its first ever elite Team Pursuit and Women’s Team Sprint squads.

The former comprises of Maharajh, Gomez, Nero and young speedster Campbell while the latter features Goodridge, Browne and the younger Campbell.
Title: TTOC to spearhead Olympic Park
Post by: Socapro on August 09, 2015, 09:22:26 PM
TTOC to spearhead Olympic Park (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150809/sports/ttoc-to-spearhead-olympic-park)
Published on Aug 9, 2015, 12:01 am AST (T&T Express)

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TTOC Olympic House

The Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee (TTOC) has announced its desire to convert the Lord Harris Square in Port of Spain into an Olympic Village. The local Olympic governing body detailed its plans in a recent media release which followed its "One Year to Rio" acknowledgement at its Abercromby Street head office on Wednesday.

According to TTOC president Brian Lewis, the park will be focused on creating an Olympic experience for the supporters of the T&T Olympic team. The park will also include a number of different features to attract the public, with the intention of building greater awareness and support for sport in T&T.

The TTOC also intends to attract the attention of the numerous primary and secondary schools in the Port of Spain area. The park will create a space for learning, as the TTOC continues to educate people about the Olympic movement, T&T's Olympic history, healthy lifestyles and culture.

The village will form a part of not only the TTOC’s "Road to Rio" campaign, but also its recent mandate to bring home ten Olympic gold medals by 2024.
Title: Podium Push
Post by: Socapro on August 13, 2015, 07:27:03 PM
Podium Push (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150812/sports/podium-push)
By Mark Pouchet (T&T Express)
Published on Aug 12, 2015, 10:23 pm AST

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HAVING FUN: Captain of the Women Soca Warriors Maylee Attin Johnson, left, and Dwayne Bravo, skipper of the Trinidad and Tobago Red Steel team play with each other during the Sports Ministry Achievers Luncheon at Hilton Trinidad and Conference Centre, Port of Spain, yesterday. --Photo: ANISTO ALVES

The Ministry of Sport (MoS) announced a major new sports programme called ‘Podium Push’, which officials say is designed to supplement the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee’s (TTOC) drive to 10 golds by the 2024 Olympics goal. But officials failed to disclose the amount budgeted for the initiative.

At an Achievers’ Luncheon hosted by the MoS at the grand ballroom of the Hilton Trinidad and Conference Centre, yesterday, MoS director of sport Gabre Mc Tair, speaking on behalf of the absent Minister of Sport Brent Sancho, said the Ministry had created this initiative called ‘Podium Push’ to further enhance top local athletes’ chances of securing podium performances at the Rio 2016 Olympics next year.

“Our Elite Athlete Assistant Programme needed some refocusing to ensure that our sporting elite received proper funding, I recognised that even more was needed to help Brian Lewis and his team at the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee achieve their aim of ten gold medals by the year 2024. Providing funding to take our top athletes to the Olympics is not enough. I realise that getting there is not the challenge but finishing in the top three requires additional commitment and effort from the athletes, coaches support teams and the Ministry of Sport,” Mc Tair said, without disclosing any budgeted figures for the initiative.

Mc Tair said the various national sporting bodies will have to recommend to the Ministry of Sport the athletes who they feel are podium ready, not athletes who would just compete but those who are in the top 20 in the world in their discipline.

“These are the athletes who we feel have a real chance of finishing in the gold, silver or bronze positions,” Mc Tair added. Mc Tair said that medals are separated by fractions of a second, metre or kilogramme.

Mc Tair vowed that T&T Olympic athletes will receive the best possible preparation for the Rio Olympics so that Lewis and TTOC can have a realistic chance of achieving the 10 golds by 2024 objective. Mc Tair added the expenses to be covered include travel to competitions, overseas training camps, sessions with a nutritionist, sports psychologist or specialist trainer.

Earlier, members of the Special Olympics Trinidad and Tobago team received plaques for their 48-medal haul (15 gold, 9 silver and 24 bronze) at the Special Olympics World Games that concluded in Los Angeles, California, USA, earlier this month.

Also receiving plaques were medallists of the Pan Am Junior Championship athletics team and medallist at the Pan American Games in Toronto that concluded on July 27. None of the Pan AM Games medallists was present because they were either outside the country or on their way to the IAAF World Track and Field Championships in Beijing that commences from August 22. Other members of the Pan Am Games team including swimmer Dylan Carter, T&T men’s hockey captain Darren Cowie, and shooter Roger Daniel, were also present.

Also recognised were members of the Red Steel team who won the Caribbean Premier League championship title last month and members of the Trinidad and Tobago Blind and Visually Impaired cricket team, which clinched the T-20 and 40-overs Caribbean titles in St Lucia over the weekend.
Title: Sports Ministry launches — Rio’s Podium Push
Post by: Socapro on August 13, 2015, 07:42:37 PM
Sports Ministry launches —
Rio’s Podium Push (http://www.guardian.co.tt/sport/2015-08-13/rio%E2%80%99s-podium-push)
By Nicholas Clarke (T&T Guardian)
Published: Thursday, August 13, 2015

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The Ministry of Sport has launched a new programme, entitled the Podium Push, aimed at providing elite athletes with the best preparation possible for next year’s Rio Olympics. This was revealed during a function held in recognition of the country’s athletes at the Hilton Ballroom in Port-of-Spain yesterday.

Speaking on behalf of Minister of Sport Brent Sancho, who was unable to attend, director of physical education Gabre-Jesu McTair said the programme was designed to ensure the T&T Olympic Committee’s aim of winning 10 gold medals by 2024 could be realised.

“Providing funding to take our athletes to the Olympics is not enough. Getting there is not the challenge, but finishing in the top three. That requires extra effort from the athletes, coaches, support teams and the Ministry of Sports,” said McTair as he read from the Sancho’s prepared statement. “I am asking various national sporting governing bodies to recommend the athletes who they feel are podium ready. In other words, those athletes who won’t just compete, but those who are in the top 20 in the world in their discipline. These are the athletes who we feel have a real chance of finishing in the gold, silver or bronze positions.”

The function was attended by dozens of local athletes, including members of the CPL-winning T&T Red Steel, the 48-medal winning Special Olympics team, the Pan American delegation, and the national blind cricket team.

President of the TTOC Brian Lewis called on the country to take sport more seriously by creating conditions under which athletes could thrive.

“I remind everyone that actions speak louder than words. There are so many things that still need to be done for our athletes and it’s not only about money. There are simple things. We still have a corporate culture where representing your country is not considered a national service and our athletes have to take no-pay leave or time from their vacation to represent their country. It is a reality that for many people involved in sport, they have to make those sacrifices 80 percent of time,” he said. “If in the wider community, sport is not seen as key development pillar in the future vision for this country similarly as it is done in country’s such a Singapore, then notwithstanding the best intentions, dedication and commitment of sport stakeholders, we will all continue to struggle. Sport can make a powerful difference to society and I urge the country and its decision makers to take sport seriously.”

Meanwhile T&T Red Steel captain said he had been personally inspired by the achievements of the Special Olympics team.

“They are the real heroes of our country. To do what they do, words cant’ explain. I think they give us more appreciation of what we have and make us realise we should never take anything for granted,” he said. “Maybe one day our management can actually get the Red Steel team to do some kind of games with those Special Olympians.”
Title: Cartan Global is the Rio 2016™ Authorised Ticket Reseller for T&T!
Post by: Socapro on August 14, 2015, 02:34:26 PM
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Cartan Global is the Rio 2016™ Authorised Ticket Reseller for Trinidad and Tobago! Tickets will go on sale August 17, 2015 at 10:00 AM PDT. Please visit www.cartanglobal.com/rio2016 for more information.
Title: Cable and Wireless countdown to Rio 2016
Post by: Socapro on August 15, 2015, 08:08:00 AM
Cable and Wireless countdown to Rio 2016 (http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,215625.html)
Saturday, August 15 2015 (T&T Newsday)

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Rio 2016 Olympic Games is just around the corner, and C&W Communications (C&W), operators of Flow and LIME brands in the Caribbean, has pledged to bring more Caribbean Olympic content to regional fans.

With less than a year to go, C&W, the Exclusive Telecommunications Partner to the Caribbean Association of National Olympic Committees (CANOC), has also committed to support Caribbean athletes as they pursue their Olympic dreams.

With the hopes of millions of Caribbean nationals in the diaspora and across the region hanging onto the prospect of mining gold, the Olympic Games are eagerly anticipated and a major source of national and regional pride.

Only last week, Flow Jamaica announced a major partnership with the Jamaica Athletics Administrative Association, (JAAA), and inked a two-year deal valued at J$28M to sponsor all its national championships and teams. In the coming weeks, other C&W markets across the region will announce their support of local athletes in preparation for Rio 2016.

Earlier in 2015, C&W revealed it had become the exclusive telecom partner to the CANOC, which had secured the Olympic content rights in 20 English-speaking countries, as well as non-exclusive rights to ten non-English-speaking countries throughout the region. The company also announced its intention to thrill Caribbean audiences by bringing multi-platform streams of exclusive, locally focussed content featuring Caribbean athletes as they pursue victory at the games.

“We are proud to bring a more enriched Olympic experience to the Caribbean,” said John Reid, president of the C&W Consumer Group. “We are readying our markets for the games through our sponsorship of athletes and programmes, and by offering multi-platform coverage featuring Olympic content to Caribbean viewers who yearn to see more home-grown talents live and in action on the prestigious world stage,” added Reid.

In addition to the JAAA partnership, C&W will unveil a full schedule of activities as it marks the countdown to RIO 2016; customers will soon notice their local Flow retail stores featuring Olympic promotions.
Title: Women Soca Warriors begin Olympic quest on Friday
Post by: Socapro on August 19, 2015, 09:08:16 AM
Women Soca Warriors begin Olympic quest on Friday (http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,215807.html)
Wednesday, August 19 2015 (T&T Newsday)


THE TRINIDAD and Tobago women football team, commonly called “the Women Soca Warriors”, will begin their quest for a place at the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on Friday.

The Caribbean Football Union (CFU) Women’s Olympic Qualifying First Round will feature Trinidad and Tobago, Cayman Islands, St Lucia and Antigua/Barbuda in a round-robin Group Two stage - all matches will take place at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Mucurapo.

The Women Soca Warriors will face Cayman Islands on Friday, St Lucia on Sunday and Antigua/Barbuda next Tuesday.

Group One will feature Aruba, Grenada, Haiti and Puerto Rico; Group Three will comprise Dominica, Dominican Republic, Jamaica and Suriname; while Group Four will involve Cuba, Guyana and St Kitts/Nevis.

Three teams from the CFU Qualifiers will progress to the CONCACAF Women’s Olympic Qualifying Championships, which will be staged in the United States from February 10-21.

Hosts United States, Canada and Mexico will participate in the CONCACAF leg, as well as two nations from the Central American region.

Two teams from the CONCACAF Qualifiers will advance to the Olympic Games.
Title: A team of refugees will compete at this summer's Olympics in Rio
Post by: Deeks on March 02, 2016, 09:49:31 PM
The IOC will will invite a team of refugees to participate in Rio (http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/35710578)
Wednesday, 02 March 2016 (BBC Sport, Olympics)

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Rio will stage the first Games in South America

A team of refugees will compete at this summer's Olympics in Rio.

A total of 43 prospective athletes have been identified for the Team of Refugee Olympic Athletes (ROA), which will compete under the Olympic flag.

"By welcoming ROA to the Olympic Games in Rio, we want to send a message of hope to all the refugees of the world," said International Olympic Committee president Thomas Bach.

"This team will be treated like all the other teams."

As well as sporting ability, selection criteria will include personal circumstances and United Nations-verified refugee status.

Athletes will then be supported with funds to train.

"This team may end up between five and 10 athletes maybe," said Bach. "We have no target. It depends very much on the sporting qualifications."

The ROA will be housed in the athletes' village and will enter the opening ceremony as the penultimate team, ahead of hosts Brazil.

The IOC also issued assurances over the Zika virus, slow ticket sales, water pollution and facilities.

Fewer than half of tickets sold

So far, fewer than half of the 7.5 million tickets issued for the Games, which will run from 5-21 August, have been sold.

Sales of more expensive tickets for premium events and the opening ceremony mean ticket revenues have reached 74% or $195m (£139m), but the build-up to the Games has been overshadowed by an economic downturn in Brazil, political turmoil and Zika.

The 2012 Olympics in London reached its revenue target from ticket sales months before the start because of huge demand and, overall, 96% of the 8.2 million tickets were sold.

`"I have no concerns at all there," said Bach.

"Brazilians, they do not buy tickets at such an early stage, as the British or the Germans. There is no concern at all. We had comparable figures before other Olympic Games.

"I have no doubt that when the time comes, these numbers will increase."

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Athletes will be housed at the Ilha Pura complex in Rio's west zone

Zika a 'moving target'

Brazil has been at the centre of the mosquito-borne Zika virus, which has been linked to a rise in cases of babies born with unusually small heads.

As the British Olympic Association warned pregnant women to avoid all non-essential travel to Brazil, the IOC said it continues to follow the advice of the World Health Organisation (WHO), which has said that Brazil should be safe during its winter.

Rio 2016 communications director Mario Andrada said athletes will have air conditioning in their rooms and will be advised to keep the windows closed to keep any mosquitoes out.

"Zika is a moving target," he said. "It's a global tragedy, especially for women and pregnant woman. But from a broader games perspective, the WHO believes it will not be a major factor."

A waste of $25m?

Andrada also said that that the Brazilian government would issue a presidential decree to ensure that a $25m (£17.7m) drug testing lab in Rio does not go unused.

The World Anti-Doping Agency has issued a deadline of 18 March for Brazil to comply with international doping legislation.

The decree, to be issued on 15 March, will "solve this problem", according to Andrada, because there is not enough time to push new laws through parliament.

Facilities and water

Before the outbreak of the Zika virus, there were health concerns about pollution in the water where some events will be held.

As a result, Guanabara Bay, which will host sailing and swimming, and the lagoon where rowing and canoeing events will take place are to be subject to increased testing.

Both sites will be examined every other day from April, and then on a daily basis during the Games.

In addition, Andrada claimed that almost all venues were ready for the Olympics, saying: "All venues are almost around 95% ready.

"The velodrome needs a little more but it will be ready at the end of April."
Title: TICKET STAMPED*
Post by: Socapro on March 06, 2016, 02:23:07 PM
TICKET STAMPED* (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160305/sports/ticket-stamped)
By By Sean Taylor, sean.taylor@trinidadexpress.com
Published on Mar 5, 2016, 12:41 am AST (T&T Express)

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PEDAL TO THE METAL: Trinidad and Tobago sprint cyclist Njisane Phillip competes at the UCI World Championships in London, England. —Photo: AFP

Port of Spain
 
Rigtech Sonics cyclist Njisane Phillip qualified for the Summer Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro, after he blazed the track in the flying 200m qualifier, clocking 9.969 seconds at the UCI World Track Cycling Championships in London, England, yesterday morning.

Phillip was then subsequently drawn against a familiar nemesis in New Zealand’s Edward Dawkins in the match sprint 1/16 final (round of 32). Dawkins, who lost to Phillip at the same stage, at the same venue, during the 2012 London Olympics, got the better of the T&T sprint champion this time around as he held his (Phillip’s) late charge to the line.

“It didn’t go the way I wanted to go but I am happy with securing my Rio spot,” the rider told the Express hours after the race. “I’m super excited and ready to start my prep for the Olympics.”

The rider also indicated that he will take a break after the World Championships before starting the final march before the big event. “Now I have some time off,” he said. “About a week or two, then I go back in for training.”
Title: Njisane qualifies for Olympics
Post by: Socapro on March 06, 2016, 02:30:05 PM
Njisane qualifies for Olympics (http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,224908.html)
By JONATHAN RAMNANANSINGH Saturday, March 5 2016 (T&T Newsday)

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Trinidad & Tobago sprint cyclist Njisane Phillip (left) has booked his ticket to Rio

Relief was the emotion felt the most by Trinidad and Tobago cyclist, Njisane Phillip, upon securing his second consecutive Olympic berth along the historic Lee Valley VeloPark track in London, England, early yesterday morning.

The 24-year old speedster completed his 2016 Olympic Games qualification campaign by producing a blistering 9.969 second performance in the Men’s Flying 200m preliminary round. Phillip’s overall time was 14th fastest in the opening stage, a clocking which saw him advance to the 1/16 round of competition and automatically seal his Olympic spot.

Topping the field in the Flying 200m however, was current number one ranked UCI sprinter Matthew Glaetzer (Australia) who stopped the clock in a mesmerising 9.766s, while reigning Olympic Men’s Sprint champion Jason Kenny (9.767s) was second fastest and Dutch rider, Jeffrey Hoogland (9.767s), third overall.

In the 1/16, Phillip squares off with New Zealander Edward Dawkins for a place in the quarter-final round. But, the in-form Kiwi emerged victorious in straight rides to advance, while Phillip calmly exited well aware that his hard earned Olympic place had been already affirmed.

Speaking to the ace cyclist following his performance yesterday, Phillip expressed relief and contentment on his most recent achievement.

“Today was really tough but I’m happy about my qualifying time because it was faster than my entire World Cup season,” said Phillip speaking from the London venue. “I’ve been improving every race. I’m just elated that I was able to qualify for the Rio de Janeiro Olympic Games and that pressure is finally off now. It’s a real stress relief.” The reigning National sprint and keirin champion also admitted that the past few months of competition and intense training has taken a major toll on him. Phillip will now take a two-week break and is expected back home on March 13.

“I’m going to take a little break now and then refocus to start training again,” he added. “It’s been a pretty long season for me and this break is well needed. I just want to thank everybody for their support through it all and I’m just happy that the pressure is off. There’s one major goal now (an Olympic medal).

I’m really praying that they open the Velodrome in Trinidad so I could start doing some work down there.” The two-wheel ace is expected to take part in several upcoming international Grand Prixs which will be used to gauge his final progression ahead of the Olympics. Following his Olympic confirmation, Minister of Sport Darryl Smith, telephoned Phillip’s step-father Phillip Whiteman, to offer his congratulatory marks.

Smith celebrated the riders’ dedication and hard work by posting a photo of himself to Phillip’s Facebook Page donning the cyclist’s personal ‘JLD’ branded cap.

Minister Smith said: “After all you have been through for the last three years you believed in yourself.

You found a way to make it.

Continue to stay focus and work hard and make Trinidad and Tobago proud on the world map.” The local Rigtech Sonics representative also commended the strong support of Phillip and Marie Dimsoy Whiteman for their commitment and patience towards his development.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on March 07, 2016, 11:26:21 AM
Congrats to Mr. Philipps
Title: Taekwondo trio go after Olympic berths*
Post by: Socapro on March 10, 2016, 03:57:16 AM
Taekwondo trio go after Olympic berths* (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160309/sports/taekwondo-trio-go-after-olympic-berths)
By Sean Taylor, sean.taylor@trinidadexpress.com
Published on Mar 9, 2016, 8:22 pm AST (T&T Express)

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T&T Team: From left to right, Anthony Ferguson President of the Trinidad and Tobago Taewkondo Association (TTTA) stands with the rest of the team members and officials, including Edson Breedy (back row), Melissa Joseph (front), Cheryl Ann Sankar, Colin Mufford the national coach and Lenn Hypolite. Sankar was T&T’s first-ever representative in the sport at the Olympic Games, and fought at the Sydney Olympics. Photo courtesy TBL Sports Management

Last Friday, the day of reckoning came for Trinidad and Tobago’s elite sprint cyclist Njisane Phillip, and he answered the call. Today, roughly a week later, the same hour of truth comes for three more athletes vying for Olympic qualification with taekwondo being the discipline this time around.

The long winding road will soon be over for Edson Breedy, Lenn Hypolite and Melissa Joseph, who were all selected to represent T&T at the Pan American Olympic Qualifiers which start today on the mat in Aguascalientes, Mexico.

The journey has been markedly different for all three competitors, as the challenges mounted up in the build-up to the event.

USA-born Joseph, decided to apply for dual citizenship which allowed her to be in contention for selection by the Trinidad and Tobago Taekwondo Association (TTTA).
Title: Williams cleared for 2016 Rio qualifier
Post by: Socapro on March 17, 2016, 07:15:36 AM
Williams cleared for 2016 Rio qualifier (http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,225399.html)
By JOEL BAILEY Wednesday, March 16 2016 (T&T Newsday)

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Top Trinidad & Tobago gymnast Thema Williams now confirmed for Olympic Test event. :)

NATIONAL GYMNAST Thema Williams has been confirmed as the representative for this country at the Aquece Final Gymnastics Qualifier at the Rio Olympic Arena, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil from April 16-22, according to a media release last evening from the Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation (TTGF).

The decision effectively ends weeks of speculation regarding whether Williams or her alternate Marissa Dick would be handed the spot after topless photos of the pair surfaced from random members of the public.

Williams, who is battling to recover from a knee injury, must prove her fitness though in time for the event or it would go Dick who would take her spot.

According to the TT GF, “Williams qualified along with Dick for the single Trinidad and Tobago country spot at the World Gymnastics Championships held in Glasgow (last) October.

Thema attained the higher of the two scores, and the opportunity to represent Trinidad at the Test Event.” The TT GF media release continued, “in accordance with the athlete agreement, both gymnasts must submit a medical report/clearance to compete, in the weeks leading up to the Test Event - to ensure their continued fitness.

“In his 2016 January to March monthly reports, (Williams’ coach John) Geddert advised the Federation that the young gymnast has not yet been able to train landings on Vault and insert a key skill at this time in her Floor routine because of a knee issue. This situation will be monitored closely to ensure that Thema will be competition ready for her Test Event.” The Federation had drawn the ire of the public who perceived them to be victimising the 20-year-old over her topless photo which was leaked to the media weeks ago.

The Federation also refused to allow Williams to compete in a Level 10 meet in the United States, which did not please her American coach.

In turn, Geddert accused the local governing body of thwarting the 20-year-old from gaining crucial preparation for the forthcoming Test Event in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, next month The Federation had to name its final choice for the Test Event by today or risk paying a fine of 1,000 Swiss francs (approximately TT $6,650).

The TT GF is adamant that the current saga - about the Olympic Test event - is not related to the issue of the photos but on the fitness levels of both Williams and Dick.

A passionate TT GF assistant treasurer Donna Lue Shue, with regards to not allowing Williams to take part in the US meet, said in a telephone interview yesterday, “there was a competition two weeks ago in Canada, which was earmarked by the Federation for her to compete in.

“Her coach said he would not let her compete because it was too close to the Olympic Test Event and, now, he wants her to compete at another event which is even closer to the Test Event, and is at a lower level (Level 10).” Lue Shue noted, “it’s in (a written contract) that both cannot drop a level and, if we had let her compete in it, Marissa could have sued us (the TT GF).” “Marissa came fourth and fifth in her (respective) events at the same meet in Canada,” stated the TT GF assistant treasurer. “It’s a fact that since Williams has qualified, she hasn’t been consistent leading up to the Test Event while Marissa has.” Lue Shue said the organisation was being pressured by people who were not considering the fitness levels of both athletes but thinking of the topless photos issue which has not be adjudicated on.

“People could bash us on social media but the truth will prevail,” she declared, explaining that the Disciplinary case concerning the photos has been shelved.

She also dismissed the notion that race was being considered in choosing TT ’s representative, saying she would never be a part of something like that.

Williams’ godmother, popular entertainer Nikki Crosby, during a telephone interview yesterday prior to the TT GF announcement was livid, “it’s ridiculous, from the feedback we’ve been getting on social media.” Saying that Williams is “an athlete who has been caught up in the politics”, Crosby was adamant that “the fight down has been ‘real’.

Gymnastics has always been a very high-colour, an elitist sport.” Dick was chosen by the TT GF as its Sports Personality of the Year 2015 and Crosby insisted, “What are (Dick’s) qualities to be Sportswoman of the Year? People are pissed, it’s like a joke gone too far.” In related news, the Ministry of Sport and Youth Affairs yesterday issued a press release yesterday that seemed to indicated a hands-off approach to the entire fiasco but gave a veiled threat that they would consider withholding funds from “an NGB (National Governing Body) for Sport if it cannot resolve its internal disputes professionally and maturely, or if executive decisions are not in keeping with best sporting practice or the tenets of the National Sport Policy.” The release indicated that the Sports Ministry, “along with the Sports Company of Trinidad and Tobago (SPORTT ), having consulted with the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee (TTO C), advises the public that as Government entities, the Ministry and SPORTT may monitor, but should not intervene in disputes within National Governing Bodies (NGBs) for sport.

“NGBs are independent sporting entities whose autonomy is sacrosanct under the Olympic Charter and general principles of sports law.

Intervention from Government in these processes may incur country sanctions and threats of sanctions by international sporting organisations.

“The Ministry of Sport and Youth Affairs and the Sports Company of Trinidad and Tobago will continue to support NGBs in the conduct of their affairs and in the best interest of the athletes and support staff who represent Trinidad and Tobago.

We hope for a fair and speedy resolution to all disputes and for good governance in sport to be normalised in the affairs of all NGBs.”
Title: Gymnast Williams relieved
Post by: Socapro on March 17, 2016, 07:28:39 AM
Gymnast Williams relieved (http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,225429.html)
Thursday, March 17 2016 (T&T Newsday)

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:thumbsup: Thumbs-up from T&T gymnast Thema Williams relieved that ordeal is over.

AFTER ENDURING three weeks of uncertainty and mixed emotions courtesy the Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation (TTGF), national gymnast Thema Williams, breathed a deep sigh of relief at her Michigan, United States, base on Tuesday, following confirmation of her participation in the Aquece Final Gymnastics Qualifier in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on April 17.

This decision by the local governing body, following a disciplinary committee meeting two days ago, has now brought to an end a cumbersome 21-day speculation regarding whether Williams or her alternate Marissa Dick would be handed the coveted spot after topless photos of the pair surfaced from random members of the public in late February.

The April qualifier (Test Event) is the final stepping stone for the 20-year old to secure a debut spot for TT at the Summer Games in the discipline of artistic gymnastics.

Speaking to the soft-spoken Williams yesterday, she expressed relief that such an exhausting period of her competitive career was finally set straight.

“Relief,” she said. “Finally this is over. The past couple weeks have been a bit tough but I remain stronger than ever. I must say though, that the support I have received from people in Trinidad and Tobago was amazing. It (support) was deeply motivating and I’m still in a bit of shock as to how many fans reached out to me during this time.” Since Williams’ photograph was brought to nationwide attention by a one called ‘Georgette Heinz’, who emailed the image to local media houses on February 24, a call was made by the sender to have the athlete replaced from competing at the Test Event with Dick.

Ironically enough, a few days later another photo surfaced, this time with Dick posing topless on her SnapChat account. These abrupt and unexpected revelations by this nation’s top two female gymnasts then sent the local fraternity into a spiral. Following these discoveries, the TT GF executive was forced to convene several emergency meetings in an effort to make a final decision as to who would represent TT at the forthcoming qualifier.

“It was a sad day for me and the sport of gymnastics,” said Williams referring to the first day her photograph was made public. “I want to be a pioneer for sport and gymnastics in Trinidad and Tobago. I work so hard out here (USA) and when I heard of the situation I felt sad. I love my sport and my country and intend to be a role model for sportswomen. I didn’t expect so many people to get behind me (support). I guess that’s why I love Trinidad and Tobago, the people are really understanding and they care about their athletes.” Williams admitted however, that while TT was up in arms about two photos, she kept training and constantly worked on her progression.

According to the gymnast, she spent a lot of time in the gym, a place which took her mind off all the controversy taking place back home.

Referring to her recovery from a knee injury, Williams remains confident ahead of her medical examination which according to her, should be done sometime next week in the US.

“My knee is fine,” she said. “I’m not worried about any medical because I know how I feel. I’m also confident that I will pass this test and move on smoothly to the Test Event. I feel good and like I said, I’ve never stopped training so I’m continuously improving ahead of these coming meets.” In conclusion, the well-cut national representative issued an open ‘thank you’ to all those who, in whatever way, threw their support in her corner of the floor.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 29, 2016, 07:45:13 PM
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Cartan Global is the Rio 2016™ Authorised Ticket Reseller for Trinidad and Tobago! Tickets will go on sale August 17, 2015 at 10:00 AM PDT. Please visit www.cartanglobal.com/rio2016 for more information.

Trying to get tickets to the events from these people is akin to pulling out good teeth....steups!!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Brownsugar on May 15, 2016, 08:00:06 AM
Ah een!!!  Ah get tickets to the Women' 100M Finals and the Men's 100M Final!!! BOOM!!!

 :party: :party: :cheers: :wavetowel: :wavetowel:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 15, 2016, 08:04:59 AM
Congratulations Brown, what a treat! You may get to see UB make history. Hopefully MLA and/or KAB will be in the mix as well...
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on May 15, 2016, 09:25:19 AM
Congratulations Brown, what a treat! You may get to see UB make history. Hopefully MLA and/or KAB will be in the mix as well...

Congrats Sugar!!! So forumites we will be having our own reporter in Rio. Daily commentaries ;D. Sugar you might just be the person in the stands to bring the luck for our first women Olimpic medal.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Brownsugar on July 01, 2016, 01:22:57 PM
Hear nah all yuh.....ah trying to get tix to some other events and lawd fadder.........between the  IOC and VISA.....I swear I will be driven to drink..... :frustrated: :frustrated: :banginghead: :banginghead: :cursing: :cursing:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: E-man on July 18, 2016, 06:58:00 PM
Rio 2016 organizers unveil Olympic torch (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150703/sports/rio-2016-organizers-unveil-olympic-torch)

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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Brownsugar on July 29, 2016, 06:11:59 PM
Finally I got tickets to various events.....lawd it was painful......

Sailing, Synchronised Swimming, Gymnastics, Football, 100M men's and women's, 4 x 100M relays......throw een some site seeing and ah ready to go!!!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on July 30, 2016, 07:53:56 AM
Gyul, I envy you. Have fun. Our WOMAN IN RIO.
Title: Rio Women's 100m Final Predictions!!
Post by: Socapro on July 30, 2016, 10:21:56 AM
TTOC announces 32 athletes for Rio Games (http://www.newsday.co.tt/sport/0,230560.html)
JELANI BECKLES Friday, July 15 2016


TRINIDAD and Tobago will be represented by its largest Olympic contingent in history, as 32 athletes in eight disciplines will compete at the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil from August 5-21.

The Rio 2016 team surpasses the 2012 London Olympic Games team which had 31 athletes. The 2016 team was officially announced yesterday by Chef De Mission Dr Ian Hypolite at a press conference held at the TT Olympic House, Abercromby Street, Port of Spain.

As usual, TT will be well represented in athletics as 24 athletes will vie for medals at the Games.

The team includes women’s shot put athlete Cleopatra Borel who will be competing in her fourth Olympic Games, while Keshorn Walcott will be aiming to defend his men’s javelin title.

The trio of Rondel Sorillo, Michelle- Lee Ahye and Semoy Hackett will be busy at the Games competing in three events each. Sorillo will line up in the men’s 100-metre, 200m and 4x100m relay events, while Ahye and Hackett will compete in the women’s 100m, 200m and 4x100m relay events.

TT will also be represented in the disciplines of boxing (Nigel Paul), cycling (Njisane Phillip), artistic gymnastics (Marisa Dick), judo (Christopher George), rowing (Felice Aisha Chow), sailing (Andrew Lewis) and swimming (Dylan Carter, George Bovell III).

Minister of Sport and Youth Affairs Darryl Smith stated, “I was very pleased to hear from the (TTO C) team that we are actually going to field the most athletes ever in the history of TT in the Olympics.

Also the Paralympics as well, they are also going to have the most number of athletes attending the Paralympics.” He added, “this is the first time we have had so many female athletes on the team.” Eleven women will represent TT at the Olympics.

TT will be represented at the Paralympic Games in Rio from September 7-18 by Akeem Stewart (athletics), Shanntol Ince (swimming) and Nyoshia Cain (athletics).

President of the TT Paralympic Committee Sudhir Ramessar expressed optimism. He stated, “I am very confident to tell you all today, we will be coming back with medals.”

TT OLYMPIC TEAM - ATHLETICS -

Men:
Richard Thompson - 100m, 4x100m relay; Rondel Sorillo - 100m, 200m, 4x100m relay; Keston Bledman - 100m, 4x100m relay; Kyle Greaux - 200m, 4x100m relay; Emmanuel Callender - 4x100m relay; Marcus Duncan - 4x100m relay; Mikel Thomas - 110m hurdles; Jehue Gordon - 400m hurdles; Machel Cedenio - 400m, 4x400m relay; Lalonde Gordon - 400m, 4x400m relay; Deon Lendore - 400m, 4x400m relay; Jarrin Solomon - 4x400m relay; Renny Quow - 4x400m relay; Jereem Richards - 4x400m relay; Keshorn Walcott - javelin.

Women: Michelle-Lee Ahye - 100m, 200m, 4x100m relay; Semoy Hackett - 100m, 200m, 4x100m relay; Kelly Ann Baptiste - 100m, 4x100m relay; Reyare Thomas - 200m, 4x100m relay; Khalifa St Fort - 4x100m relay; Kai Selvon - 4x100m relay; Janeil Bellille - 400m hurdles; Sparkle Mc Knight - 400m hurdles; Cleopatra Borel - shot put.

Officials: George Commissiong (manager), Ian Carter (coach), Ismael Lopez- Mastrapa, Gunness Persad, Nic Connor Alexander, Charles Joseph.

BOXING - Nigel Paul - super heavyweight category; Reynold Cox (manager), Floyd Trumpet (coach).

CYCLING - Njisane Phillip - sprint; David Francis (manager), Elisha Greene (mechanic).

ARTISTIC GYMNASTICS - Marisa Dick; Anita Pelletier (coach).

JUDO - Christopher George; Mark Littrean (manager/ coach).

ROWING - Felice Aisha Chow - Single Scull; Merryl See Tai (manager).

SAILING - Andrew Lewis - Laser; Kairon Serrette (manager), Bruno Fontes (coach).

SWIMMING - Dylan Carter - 100m freestyle, George Bovell III - 50m freestyle; George Bovell II (manager), Roland Schoeman (coach).

TEAM MANAGEMENT - Dr Ian Hypolite (chef de mission), Lovie Santana (administration).

MEDICAL - Dr Terry Ali (chief medical officer), Dr Anyl Gopeesingh, Dr Tonya Welch, Dr Margaret Ottley, Ian Sharpe, Zephyrinus Nicholas, Brent Elder, Nicole Fuentes, Alexander Gibbons, Verne Alleyne, Abdel Muriada.

TT PARALYMPIC TEAM - Athletes: Akeem Stewart (F43 javelin, F43 discus), Shanntol Ince (swimming - event not yet confirmed), Nyoshia Cain (T44 100m, T44 200m).

Officials: Judy Beckles (chef de mission), Wade Franklyn (athletics coach), Karen Araujo (swimming coach), Dr Kerry Dollaway (physiotherapist), Sudhir Ramessar (TT Paralympic Committee president).

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Rio Women's 100m Final Predictions!!

Please list yours below in this thread .......

Here is mines and please note the order listed also implies how I think they will place in the Final:-

1st ET (JAM)
2nd MLA (TTO)
3rd SAFP (JAM)
4th BOWIE (USA)
5th SLIPPERS (NED)
6th GARDNER (USA)
7th AHOURÉ (CIV)
8th TA LOU (CIV)
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If 9 sprinters are allowed to make the final then I would add BARTOLETTA (USA), Christania WILLIAMS (JAM), OKAGBARE (NGR) and Kelly-Ann BAPTISTE (TTO) to the list of potential athletes who might make the Final as the 9th sprinter.

What do you guys think of my list?

I also predict that the top 3 will all run 10.7x times in the final.

Anyone who predicts that MLA will place lower than 5th in the Rio 100m Final will be in for a surprise.
MLA has remained injury free this season for a change and will peak and run PBs a few times in Rio including in the 100m Final, allyuh watch and see!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: jason23 on July 30, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
im very suprise that she was healthy for this whole season and hasn't really pushed or peaked as yet. so im excited to see what ah full throttle lee will do in rio..even doh i feel she will beat et ..we will see but i have her first rather than second. not based on sentimentality but more on technique and potential.which she has unlimited (potential) in
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on July 30, 2016, 10:42:54 PM
Rio Women's 100m Final Predictions!!

Please list yours below in this thread .......

Here is mines and please note the order listed also implies how I think they will place in the Final:-

1st ET (JAM)
2nd MLA (TTO)
3rd SAFP (JAM)
4th BOWIE (USA)
5th SLIPPERS (NED)
6th GARDNER (USA)
7th AHOURÉ (CIV)
8th TA LOU (CIV)
===============
If 9 sprinters are allowed to make the final then I would add BARTOLETTA (USA), Christania WILLIAMS (JAM), OKAGBARE (NGR) and Kelly-Ann BAPTISTE (TTO) to the list of potential athletes who might make the Final as the 9th sprinter.

What do you guys think of my list?

I also predict that the top 3 will all run 10.7x times in the final.

Schippers not finishing 5th in any 100m final.  That is my prediction.
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on July 31, 2016, 04:28:22 AM
Finally I got tickets to various events.....lawd it was painful......

Sailing, Synchronised Swimming, Gymnastics, Football, 100M men's and women's, 4 x 100M relays......throw een some site seeing and ah ready to go!!!

Represent and enjoy yourself in Rio Brownsugar!  ;)

Machel Montano ft. Tessanne Chin - Bring the Beat (Official Lyric Video)
https://www.youtube.com/v/bedvHENUev8

Erphaan Alves - Believe (Oh Yea) "2016 Release" (T&T Olympic Campaign)
https://www.youtube.com/v/tQJNaGvpxrQ

Sekon Sta - My World [Official Video]
https://www.youtube.com/v/QS_X2Vdsakw

Desle Julien - Ready For Rio "2016 Soca" (Trinidad)
https://www.youtube.com/v/gc8Cof7j99I

Chuck Gordon - Bleeding Red, White and Black
https://www.youtube.com/v/2Uc9b4cCIPc

Machel Montano - Going For Gold (Official HD Video) Olympic Soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/v/i9mvONm-vOE

RemBunction & Friends - WE ARE (All Star Remix) **OFFICIAL** Music Video
https://www.youtube.com/v/UPFC90VVYFA

Kes The Band - We Are Conquerors
https://www.youtube.com/v/7Di_p73UPcc

Exodus Steel Orchestra feat. Machel Montano, Samraj "Rikki Jai" Jaimungal,
Karene Asche, Duane O'Connor - GOLD

https://www.youtube.com/v/O92mDhPiBPo
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 31, 2016, 06:48:18 AM
Rio Women's 100m Final Predictions!!

Please list yours below in this thread .......

Here is mines and please note the order listed also implies how I think they will place in the Final:-

1st ET (JAM)
2nd MLA (TTO)
3rd SAFP (JAM)
4th BOWIE (USA)
5th SLIPPERS (NED)
6th GARDNER (USA)
7th AHOURÉ (CIV)
8th TA LOU (CIV)
===============
If 9 sprinters are allowed to make the final then I would add BARTOLETTA (USA), Christania WILLIAMS (JAM), OKAGBARE (NGR) and Kelly-Ann BAPTISTE (TTO) to the list of potential athletes who might make the Final as the 9th sprinter.

What do you guys think of my list?

I also predict that the top 3 will all run 10.7x times in the final.

Anyone who predicts that MLA will place lower than 5th in the Rio 100m Final will be in for a surprise.
MLA has remained injury free this season for a change and will peak and run PBs a few times in Rio including in the 100m Final, allyuh watch and see!

We all wish for MLA to finish in the top 3. But she has a huge hill to climb. There are about 6 women who have run below 10.8 on that list. MLA barely ran a sub 11 with a +2.8 at her back recently. It will be hard to accept your predictions for her Soca.

One thing I will predict. Men's 4x100 ain't winning a medal. As much as we want to hail Thompson as our best.. I doubt he will make the final. But I heard Bledman is starting to feel better. So we will see what happens.

Right now I predicting 2 medals. Women 4x100 and men's 4x400. As usual we do get a surprise medalist. Maybe, MLA, KW or MC.

I think MC will break the NR this time. I read an article where they said he is the only one who can threaten the big 3. If he breaks the NR in the semi, I think he will have the confidence to go up against KJ, LM and WVN.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on July 31, 2016, 07:34:05 AM
Rio Women's 100m Final Predictions!!

Please list yours below in this thread .......

Here is mines and please note the order listed also implies how I think they will place in the Final:-

1st ET (JAM)
2nd MLA (TTO)
3rd SAFP (JAM)
4th BOWIE (USA)
5th SLIPPERS (NED)
6th GARDNER (USA)
7th AHOURÉ (CIV)
8th TA LOU (CIV)
===============
If 9 sprinters are allowed to make the final then I would add BARTOLETTA (USA), Christania WILLIAMS (JAM), OKAGBARE (NGR) and Kelly-Ann BAPTISTE (TTO) to the list of potential athletes who might make the Final as the 9th sprinter.

What do you guys think of my list?

I also predict that the top 3 will all run 10.7x times in the final.

Anyone who predicts that MLA will place lower than 5th in the Rio 100m Final will be in for a surprise.
MLA has remained injury free this season for a change and will peak and run PBs a few times in Rio including in the 100m Final, allyuh watch and see!

We all wish for MLA to finish in the top 3. But she has a huge hill to climb. There are about 6 women who have run below 10.8 on that list. MLA barely ran a sub 11 with a +2.8 at her back recently. It will be hard to accept your predictions for her Soca.

One thing I will predict. Men's 4x100 ain't winning a medal. As much as we want to hail Thompson as our best.. I doubt he will make the final. But I heard Bledman is starting to feel better. So we will see what happens.

Right now I predicting 2 medals. Women 4x100 and men's 4x400. As usual we do get a surprise medalist. Maybe, MLA, KW or MC.

I think MC will break the NR this time. I read an article where they said he is the only one who can threaten the big 3. If he breaks the NR in the semi, I think he will have the confidence to go up against KJ, LM and WVN.

I was not asking you to accept my prediction about where MLA can place the 100m Final, it is my prediction and not yours.  ;)

Regards RT not making the Men's 100m Final, if he can reproduce his National Trials form or improve on it he will be in the 100m Final so we will just have to wait and see how he looks in the 100m Heats.

Regards your prediction that our 4x100m Relay Men not winning a medal, I won't be surprise if they prove you wrong.
Even if none of our Men make the 100m Final I think our relay team chances of medalling are still good once they can put in the practice and make efficient baton passes in the 4x1 Heats and Final and can aim at equalling or even bettering our NR of 37.62 in the final.

I think we have the potential to win 5 Track & Field medals; our 3 relay teams have potential to medal with our Men 4x4 team having a realistic shot at contesting USA & Bahamas for the gold if our top 5 quarter-milers all arrive in Rio in sub-45 form or ready to go low sub-45 on their relay legs.

I think as defending champion KW has a realistic shot at medalling in the Javelin so I won't be at all surprised if he medals in Rio especially if he can turn up in PB form and pull out a plus 90m throw like he did last season.

In the individual events MLA as I predicted can medal in the 100m if she peaks for Rio and runs a new PB in the Semis or Final.
If MLA medals in the 100m Final in Rio then I will also bump her up as a potential medal contender in the 200m as she has the potential to be even better over 200m than she is over the 100m.

MC can also medal in the 400m if he can stick with the race leaders over the first 300m and still retain some speed endurance energy for his trademark kick in the last 100m. If he can do that then expect the 400m NR to be broken and MC to run near 44 flat or even faster if he is going to press the top 3 for a medal.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 31, 2016, 09:59:32 AM
Before I begin, you're probably one of the few posters on here who I consider as a fountain of knowledge when it comes to track and field. If you were to ask me my predictions before the season began, I would have said the same thing you said:

- 5 medals
- 4x100 men
- 4x100 women
- 4x400 men
- Keshorn Javelin
- Cedenio 400m or MLA 100 or 200

But let's be realistic and not too optimistic. RT has run only one sub 10 for the year. He came 5th or 6th in his last race. The competition was mediocre. And he never even made the final. So what makes you think he has it in him to compete against the big names when they enter into the fray? I will keep rooting for him. But let's not let hope and optimism cloud our judgement. If he makes the semi, I will be surprised. And I hope he does make me eat my words.

As for the men's 4x100, they only medalling if two teams screw up the exchange. Canada, GB, and South Africa currently have faster runners than us. This is probably one of our weakest 4x100 teams in years. RT not in the form that he was in 4 years ago, Bledman coming of an injury (although he is getting healthier). Sorrillo has gotten his first sub 10 (I don't think he getting another sub 10). And who is the next filler? Callendar? Marcus Duncan? You think that team go beat out Canada, UK, South Africa or Japan for a medal? As I said we will have a good chance if any two of these teams drop or mess up the exchange  (US, Jam, Canada, UK, South Africa or Japan ). I am still hopeful for our 4x100 men. But I think the glory days of the team has gone. And I am ready to accept it.

I am hopeful for MLA and Keshorn. Them along with Cedenio will probably be our best individual contenders for a medal.

As I said. We will probably get a surprise medalist. No one had RT down for a medal in 2008. No one had Lalonde or Keshorn for a medal in 2012. But if I had to choose a surprise medalist it will come from MLA, Keshorn or Cedenio.

One last thing the team of Bledman, Sorrillo, Callender and Thompson will not come even close to the NR. Lucky if the run sub 38.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 31, 2016, 10:03:34 AM
Forgot to add, I'm picking Jamaica or GB to beat out BAH for a medal in the 4x400
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on July 31, 2016, 10:14:44 AM


why not predict who will win a GOLD medal for T&T?  :D

Doh worry we know why
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on July 31, 2016, 10:38:18 AM


why not predict who will win a GOLD medal for T&T?  :D

Doh worry we know why

I wonder who this clown is addressing?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on July 31, 2016, 12:19:26 PM


why not predict who will win a GOLD medal for T&T?  :D

Doh worry we know why

I wonder who this clown is addressing?

you quoted me and called me a clown, ok Socap*ssy  :D

YOU bite at my comment FIRST so safe to say it addressed you  :D
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 31, 2016, 12:22:13 PM


why not predict who will win a GOLD medal for T&T?  :D

Doh worry we know why

Sando is just a realist. Sando what your predictions? I predicting 2 maybe 3 medals.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on July 31, 2016, 12:35:28 PM


why not predict who will win a GOLD medal for T&T?  :D

Doh worry we know why

Sando is just a realist. Sando what your predictions? I predicting 2 maybe 3 medals.

well as a Trini I want to see all my athletes win Gold but it is not my expectations, I hope they prove me wrong.

My expectation is NO gold medal, although I feel Keshorn and the men 4x400 relay team have the best chances to bring home gold medals.

As for silver and bronze (either one) I really only see Keshorn, men 4x400, women 4x100 and Machel Cedenio with any realistic chances to win any medal.

Most disappointed with Jehue Gordon, he was much better than this few years ago. To see a former World Champion relegated to just being considered one with a fighting chance to only make it to the final
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on July 31, 2016, 12:53:15 PM
Before I begin, you're probably one of the few posters on here who I consider as a fountain of knowledge when it comes to track and field. If you were to ask me my predictions before the season began, I would have said the same thing you said:

- 5 medals
- 4x100 men
- 4x100 women
- 4x400 men
- Keshorn Javelin
- Cedenio 400m or MLA 100 or 200

But let's be realistic and not too optimistic. RT has run only one sub 10 for the year. He came 5th or 6th in his last race. The competition was mediocre. And he never even made the final. So what makes you think he has it in him to compete against the big names when they enter into the fray? I will keep rooting for him. But let's not let hope and optimism cloud our judgement. If he makes the semi, I will be surprised. And I hope he does make me eat my words.

As for the men's 4x100, they only medalling if two teams screw up the exchange. Canada, GB, and South Africa currently have faster runners than us. This is probably one of our weakest 4x100 teams in years. RT not in the form that he was in 4 years ago, Bledman coming of an injury (although he is getting healthier). Sorrillo has gotten his first sub 10 (I don't think he getting another sub 10). And who is the next filler? Callendar? Marcus Duncan? You think that team go beat out Canada, UK, South Africa or Japan for a medal? As I said we will have a good chance if any two of these teams drop or mess up the exchange  (US, Jam, Canada, UK, South Africa or Japan ). I am still hopeful for our 4x100 men. But I think the glory days of the team has gone. And I am ready to accept it.

I am hopeful for MLA and Keshorn. Them along with Cedenio will probably be our best individual contenders for a medal.

As I said. We will probably get a surprise medalist. No one had RT down for a medal in 2008. No one had Lalonde or Keshorn for a medal in 2012. But if I had to choose a surprise medalist it will come from MLA, Keshorn or Cedenio.

One last thing the team of Bledman, Sorrillo, Callender and Thompson will not come even close to the NR. Lucky if the run sub 38.

Addressing points above highlighted.

You stated that Canada, GB, and South Africa currently have faster runners than us.

Lets look at their top 4 sprinter times from the IAAF 2016 Top Lists (https://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/men/senior/2016) and compare them with ours:-

The SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in our TTO Men 4x100m Relay pool are:-

9.97 (1 sub-10s) Richard THOMPSON
9.99 (1 sub-10s) Rondel SORRILLO
10.07 (0 sub-10s) Keston BLEDMAN
10.19 (0 sub-10s) Emmanuel CALLENDER

The SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in Japan's Men 4x100m Relay pool are:-

10.01 (0 sub-10s) Yoshihide KIRYU
10.06 (0 sub-10s) Ryota YAMAGATA
10.10 (0 sub-10s) Aska CAMBRIDGE
10.19 (0 sub-10s) Kazuma OSETO

The SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in South Africa's Men 4x100m Relay pool are:-
(A => Time set at Altitude)

9.89 (2 sub-10s) Akani SIMBINE
9.98 A (1 sub-10s) Wayde VAN NIEKERK (most likely will not be part of 4x1 relay pool as will have 400 and 4x4 to concentrate on)
10.21 A (0 sub-10s) Emile ERASMUS
10.21 A (0 sub-10s) Lebokeng SESELE

The SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in GB's Men 4x100m Relay pool are:-

9.96 (1 sub-10s) Joel FEARON (I believe this athlete only set this time this weekend but did not make the GB Olympic team)
10.01 (0 sub-10s) Richard KILTY
10.04 (0 sub-10s) James ELLINGTON
10.06 (0 sub-10s) Chijindu UJAH
10.08 (0 sub-10s) Harry AIKINES-ARYEETEY
10.09 (0 sub-10s) Nethaneel MITCHELL-BLAKE
10.11 (0 sub-10s) James DASAOLU
10.15 (0 sub-10s) Daniel TALBOT
10.19 (0 sub-10s) Adam GEMILI

The SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in Canada's Men 4x100m Relay pool are:-

9.96 (1 sub-10s) Aaron BROWN
9.99 (1 sub-10s) Andre DE GRASSE
10.15 (0 sub-10s) Damian WARNER
10.15 (0 sub-10s) Mobolade AJOMALE
10.21 (0 sub-10s) Gavin SMELLIE

Lets add France in the mix as I believe they are the 2nd best in Europe behind GB.
The SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in the French Men 4x100m Relay pool are:-

9.86 (4 sub-10s) Jimmy VICAUT
10.09 (0 sub-10s) Christophe LEMAITRE
10.21 (0 sub-10s) Mickael-Meba ZEZE
I can't find a 4th French sprinter on the IAAF Top List.

Based upon the SB stats above for our TTO athletes and also for our main 4x100m relay competitors, I see no logical reason why GB, Canada, South Africa or Japan should be considered stronger than Team TTO if all the top sprinters in our 4x100m Relay pool turn up in Rio in SB form.

I am in firm belief that even if none of our male sprinters make the 100m Final in Rio that we can still be strong contenders at least for a bronze medal in the 4x100m Relay when we carefully assess the leg speed of our main competitors.
In addition to us still having overall faster leg speed than most of our competitors besides Jamaica and USA I also believe that with enough relay practice and with smooth efficient baton changes we will go sub-38 and might even challenge our current NR of 37.62.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on July 31, 2016, 01:04:05 PM


why not predict who will win a GOLD medal for T&T?  :D

Doh worry we know why

Sando is just a realist. Sando what your predictions? I predicting 2 maybe 3 medals.

I made realistic predictions based on what I believe our TTO athletes are capable of.
If you notice I did not predict that one of our TTO athletes would win a definite gold medal because I was being real. I did however mention that our Men's 4x4 relay team should be able to contest Bahamas and USA for the gold medal if our top 4 quarter-milers turn up to Rio in sub-45 form.

If after stating all that some one would ask why not predict who will win a GOLD medal for T&T then I am understandably forced to view them as a clown as they obviously don't want me or anyone else in this thread to be honest and realistic and so can't be taken seriously.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 31, 2016, 01:07:08 PM


why not predict who will win a GOLD medal for T&T?  :D

Doh worry we know why

Sando is just a realist. Sando what your predictions? I predicting 2 maybe 3 medals.

well as a Trini I want to see all my athletes win Gold but it is not my expectations, I hope they prove me wrong.

My expectation is NO gold medal, although I feel Keshorn and the men 4x400 relay team have the best chances to bring home gold medals.

As for silver and bronze (either one) I really only see Keshorn, men 4x400, women 4x100 and Machel Cedenio with any realistic chances to win any medal.

Most disappointed with Jehue Gordon, he was much better than this few years ago. To see a former World Champion relegated to just being considered one with a fighting chance to only make it to the final

Thank you Sando. I thought many shared Socapro view that we have a good chance of walking away with 5 medals. 2 to 3 is what you and I saying. Which is very realistic and possible. 5 medals is beyond optimistic. I guess that's why you said to guess who is going to win gold.

What really bothers me though, is that in the past 13 years we had multiple medalist in different events. Seems like almost all of our individual medalist only win one individual medal at either the world's or Olympics, then that is it. No consistency like the Americans or the Jamaicans.

Jehue got his first sub 48 in 2012. In 2013 her ran 47.6. I thought 2016 would have been the year for him to bring home Gold. The furred competition in the 400mh is not the strongest. Especially since a lot of the great who have dominated have either retired or too old. Jackson, Sanchez, Taylor. Clement? 

Despite Jehue current form, he still has the belief that he will make it. And I hope he does.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 31, 2016, 01:17:23 PM
Before I begin, you're probably one of the few posters on here who I consider as a fountain of knowledge when it comes to track and field. If you were to ask me my predictions before the season began, I would have said the same thing you said:

- 5 medals
- 4x100 men
- 4x100 women
- 4x400 men
- Keshorn Javelin
- Cedenio 400m or MLA 100 or 200

But let's be realistic and not too optimistic. RT has run only one sub 10 for the year. He came 5th or 6th in his last race. The competition was mediocre. And he never even made the final. So what makes you think he has it in him to compete against the big names when they enter into the fray? I will keep rooting for him. But let's not let hope and optimism cloud our judgement. If he makes the semi, I will be surprised. And I hope he does make me eat my words.

As for the men's 4x100, they only medalling if two teams screw up the exchange. Canada, GB, and South Africa currently have faster runners than us. This is probably one of our weakest 4x100 teams in years. RT not in the form that he was in 4 years ago, Bledman coming of an injury (although he is getting healthier). Sorrillo has gotten his first sub 10 (I don't think he getting another sub 10). And who is the next filler? Callendar? Marcus Duncan? You think that team go beat out Canada, UK, South Africa or Japan for a medal? As I said we will have a good chance if any two of these teams drop or mess up the exchange  (US, Jam, Canada, UK, South Africa or Japan ). I am still hopeful for our 4x100 men. But I think the glory days of the team has gone. And I am ready to accept it.

I am hopeful for MLA and Keshorn. Them along with Cedenio will probably be our best individual contenders for a medal.

As I said. We will probably get a surprise medalist. No one had RT down for a medal in 2008. No one had Lalonde or Keshorn for a medal in 2012. But if I had to choose a surprise medalist it will come from MLA, Keshorn or Cedenio.

One last thing the team of Bledman, Sorrillo, Callender and Thompson will not come even close to the NR. Lucky if the run sub 38.

Addressing points above highlighted.

You stated that Canada, GB, and South Africa currently have faster runners than us.

Lets look at their top 4 sprinter times from the IAAF 2016 Top Lists (https://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/men/senior/2016) and compare them with ours:-

The SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in our TTO Men 4x100m Relay pool are:-

9.97 (1 sub-10s) Richard THOMPSON
9.99 (1 sub-10s) Rondel SORRILLO
10.07 (0 sub-10s) Keston BLEDMAN
10.19 (0 sub-10s) Emmanuel CALLENDER

The SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in Japan's Men 4x100m Relay pool are:-

10.01 (0 sub-10s) Yoshihide KIRYU
10.06 (0 sub-10s) Ryota YAMAGATA
10.10 (0 sub-10s) Aska CAMBRIDGE
10.19 (0 sub-10s) Kazuma OSETO

The SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in South Africa's Men 4x100m Relay pool are:-
(A => Time set at Altitude)

9.89 (2 sub-10s) Akani SIMBINE
9.98 A (1 sub-10s) Wayde VAN NIEKERK (most likely will not be part of 4x1 relay pool as will have 400 and 4x4 to concentrate on)
10.21 A (0 sub-10s) Emile ERASMUS
10.21 A (0 sub-10s) Lebokeng SESELE

The SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in GB's Men 4x100m Relay pool are:-

9.96 (1 sub-10s) Joel FEARON (I believe this athlete only set this time this weekend but did not make the GB Olympic team)
10.01 (0 sub-10s) Richard KILTY
10.04 (0 sub-10s) James ELLINGTON
10.06 (0 sub-10s) Chijindu UJAH
10.08 (0 sub-10s) Harry AIKINES-ARYEETEY
10.09 (0 sub-10s) Nethaneel MITCHELL-BLAKE
10.11 (0 sub-10s) James DASAOLU
10.15 (0 sub-10s) Daniel TALBOT
10.19 (0 sub-10s) Adam GEMILI

The SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in Canada's Men 4x100m Relay pool are:-

9.96 (1 sub-10s) Aaron BROWN
9.99 (1 sub-10s) Andre DE GRASSE
10.15 (0 sub-10s) Damian WARNER
10.15 (0 sub-10s) Mobolade AJOMALE
10.21 (0 sub-10s) Gavin SMELLIE

Lets add France in the mix as I believe they are the 2nd best in Europe behind GB.
The SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in the French Men 4x100m Relay pool are:-

9.86 (4 sub-10s) Jimmy VICAUT
10.09 (0 sub-10s) Christophe LEMAITRE
10.21 (0 sub-10s) Mickael-Meba ZEZE
I can't find a 4th French sprinter on the IAAF Top List.

Based upon the SB stats above for our TTO athletes and also for our main 4x100m relay competitors, I see no logical reason why GB, Canada, South Africa or Japan should be considered stronger than Team TTO if all the top sprinters in our 4x100m Relay pool turn up in Rio in SB form.

I am in firm belief that even if none of our male sprinters make the 100m Final in Rio that we can still be strong contenders at least for a bronze medal in the 4x100m Relay when we carefully assess the leg speed of our main competitors.
In addition to us still having overall faster leg speed than most of our competitors besides Jamaica and USA I also believe that with enough relay practice and with smooth efficient baton changes we will go sub-38 and might even challenge our current NR of 37.62.

That's a good point Soca. But what I look it is consistency. Sorrillo and Thompson haven't even come close to running the times they ran at the Nation trials. You did make a good case that we have a good if not fair chance. So I will give you that one. BUT running sub 38 is not happening for that team . That year we broke the NR we had :
DB running 10.03/4
MB running flat if not sub 10
EC running 10.04
RT running 9.9x

The current crop is far away from that. I will say this though, if they run 38, they will most likely medal.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on July 31, 2016, 01:25:33 PM


why not predict who will win a GOLD medal for T&T?  :D

Doh worry we know why

Sando is just a realist. Sando what your predictions? I predicting 2 maybe 3 medals.

well as a Trini I want to see all my athletes win Gold but it is not my expectations, I hope they prove me wrong.

My expectation is NO gold medal, although I feel Keshorn and the men 4x400 relay team have the best chances to bring home gold medals.

As for silver and bronze (either one) I really only see Keshorn, men 4x400, women 4x100 and Machel Cedenio with any realistic chances to win any medal.

Most disappointed with Jehue Gordon, he was much better than this few years ago. To see a former World Champion relegated to just being considered one with a fighting chance to only make it to the final

Thank you Sando. I thought many shared Socapro view that we have a good chance of walking away with 5 medals. 2 to 3 is what you and I saying. Which is very realistic and possible. 5 medals is beyond optimistic. I guess that's why you said to guess who is going to win gold.

What really bothers me though, is that in the past 13 years we had multiple medalist in different events. Seems like almost all of our individual medalist only win one individual medal at either the world's or Olympics, then that is it. No consistency like the Americans or the Jamaicans.

Jehue got his first sub 48 in 2012. In 2013 her ran 47.6. I thought 2016 would have been the year for him to bring home Gold. The furred competition in the 400mh is not the strongest. Especially since a lot of the great who have dominated have either retired or too old. Jackson, Sanchez, Taylor. Clement? 

Despite Jehue current form, he still has the belief that he will make it. And I hope he does.

Don't twist my words this is what I said:
Quote
I think we have the potential to win 5 Track & Field medals
before outlining where I think the medals can realistically come from in my Reply #40 above.

Btw I addressed your misconception about Canada, UK, South Africa or Japan having superior overall leg speed than us in the 4x100m Relay in Reply #48 above. The IAAF stats for this season don't support your argument that those teams outside of Jamaica and USA have overall better leg speed than us.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 31, 2016, 01:35:13 PM
Let's not get into semantics. I basically said the same thing. "we have a good chance of walking away with 5 medals ". It's not that different from you saying "We have the potential of winning 5 track and field medals". Maybe the words a different. But the meaning is the same.

I guess you never read my last post. I said you made a good case for a medal for the 4x100 men. So I'm willing to change my viewpoint to a more optimistic one like yours.

Show me the stats thay argue in favor of our NR being broken by the current 4x100m men's team?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on July 31, 2016, 02:01:55 PM

That's a good point Soca. But what I look it is consistency. Sorrillo and Thompson haven't even come close to running the times they ran at the Nation trials. You did make a good case that we have a good if not fair chance. So I will give you that one. BUT running sub 38 is not happening for that team . That year we broke the NR we had :
DB running 10.03/4
MB running flat if not sub 10
EC running 10.04
RT running 9.9x

The current crop is far away from that. I will say this though, if they run 38, they will most likely medal.

Based upon the SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in our TTO Men 4x100m Relay pool:-

9.97 (1 sub-10s) Richard THOMPSON
9.99 (1 sub-10s) Rondel SORRILLO
10.07 (0 sub-10s) Keston BLEDMAN
10.19 (0 sub-10s) Emmanuel CALLENDER

I would say that Bledman can realistically emulate the time that DB ran on the 1st leg when we set the current 4x1 NR.
Sorrillo can realistically emulate the time that Marc Burns ran on the 2nd leg when we set the current NR.
Calender may not be in 10.04 form as he was back then but 10.19 form and a good curve run on the 3rd leg should be good enough to keep team TTO in contention for a medal on the last leg.
Thompson had not yet set his PB of 9.82 when our team set the current 4x1 NR so provided he can display 9.9x form on anchor which is quite realistic, I see no reason why this current TTO 4x100m relay team can't go sub-38 in Rio and even challenge the NR provided our baton passing is efficient and on point.

With Ato involved with coaching our 4x1 relay teams I see a bronze medal and a sub-38 time by our current TTO Men's Relay team in Rio as quite realistic.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on July 31, 2016, 02:08:11 PM
Let's not get into semantics. I basically said the same thing. "we have a good chance of walking away with 5 medals ". It's not that different from you saying "We have the potential of winning 5 track and field medals". Maybe the words a different. But the meaning is the same.

I guess you never read my last post. I said you made a good case for a medal for the 4x100 men. So I'm willing to change my viewpoint to a more optimistic one like yours.

Show me the stats thay argue in favor of our NR being broken by the current 4x100m men's team?

I am not predicting that we will break our NR record, what I am predicting is that we can still medal and run a sub-38 time if we run to our full current potential.
We also have the potential to get near to our current NR if our baton changes are on point and all the sprinters in our 4x1 team can display similar form to what they displayed at National Senior Champs.

PS:
I was quite pessimistic about our Men's 4x1 relay team medal chances in Rio until I saw how the guys performed at Senior Champs. So once again we have the potential to win 5 track and field medals, 3 from our relay teams, one from KW in the javelin and one from either MLA or MC. If both MLA and MC live up to their full potential and can win surprise medals then Team TTO can even return back home with 6 medals rather than 5. But to add some balance I do acknowledge that if we have a bad Olympics we can potentially come back home with no track & field medals. Lets hope that things go well and we perform to our full current potential which can mean our T&F athletes copping as many as 5 medals.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 31, 2016, 02:14:43 PM

That's a good point Soca. But what I look it is consistency. Sorrillo and Thompson haven't even come close to running the times they ran at the Nation trials. You did make a good case that we have a good if not fair chance. So I will give you that one. BUT running sub 38 is not happening for that team . That year we broke the NR we had :
DB running 10.03/4
MB running flat if not sub 10
EC running 10.04
RT running 9.9x

The current crop is far away from that. I will say this though, if they run 38, they will most likely medal.

Based upon the SB's and no. of sub-10's for the top 4 sprinters in our TTO Men 4x100m Relay pool:-

9.97 (1 sub-10s) Richard THOMPSON
9.99 (1 sub-10s) Rondel SORRILLO
10.07 (0 sub-10s) Keston BLEDMAN
10.19 (0 sub-10s) Emmanuel CALLENDER

I would say that Bledman can realistically emulate the time that DB ran on the 1st leg when we set the current 4x1 NR.
Sorrillo can realistically emulate the time that Marc Burns ran on the 2nd leg when we set the current NR.
Calender may not be in 10.04 form as he was back then but 10.19 form and a good curve run on the 3rd leg should be good enough to keep team TTO in contention for a medal on the last leg.
Thompson had not yet set his PB of 9.82 when our team set the current 4x1 NR so provided he can display 9.9x form on anchor which is quite realistic, I see no reason why this current TTO 4x100m relay team can't go sub-38 in Rio and even challenge the NR provided our baton passing is efficient and on point.

With Ato involved with coaching our 4x1 relay teams I see a bronze medal and a sub-38 time by our current TTO Men's Relay team in Rio as quite realistic.

Okay. But no NR will be broken by that team. They haven't even ran a race as yet.. WHICH HAS ME EVEN MORE WORRIED.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on July 31, 2016, 02:16:19 PM
Let's not get into semantics. I basically said the same thing. "we have a good chance of walking away with 5 medals ". It's not that different from you saying "We have the potential of winning 5 track and field medals". Maybe the words a different. But the meaning is the same.

I guess you never read my last post. I said you made a good case for a medal for the 4x100 men. So I'm willing to change my viewpoint to a more optimistic one like yours.

Show me the stats thay argue in favor of our NR being broken by the current 4x100m men's team?

I am not predicting that we will break our NR record, what I am predicting is that we can still medal and run a sub-38 time if we run to our full current potential.
We also have the potential to get near to our current NR if our baton changes are on point and all the sprinters in our 4x1 team can display similar form to what they displayed at National Senior Champs.

Okay. I might have misread that. But I still don't think that team will get close. Maybe a 37.9. Not a 37.7
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on July 31, 2016, 02:46:08 PM
Okay. But no NR will be broken by that team. They haven't even ran a race as yet.. WHICH HAS ME EVEN MORE WORRIED.

I believe both our Men's and Women's 4x1 Relay teams ran and won relay races at the Blue Marlin Classic Meet in the Bahamas in July. Here is the race video for the Men.

Blue Marlin Track and Field Classic - Men 4x100m Relay
https://www.youtube.com/v/mvbWyHvB2vg

Trinidad and Tobago wins the men's 4x100m in 39.70 ahead of Bahamas A 39.72, Bahamas B 39.94 and Jamaica 40.67 #BlueMarlinClassic

And here is the race video for the Women.

Blue Marlin Track and Field Classic - Women 4x100m Relay
https://www.youtube.com/v/WofwQ1g9nJI

Trinidad and Togabo wins the women's 4x100m in 43.16 ahead of Bahamas 43.65, Puerto Rico 43.77, BVI 44.08 and Jamaica 44.50 #BlueMarlinClassic
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 01, 2016, 09:33:15 PM
Justin Gatlin Talks Olympics, #BlackLivesMatter + Usain Bolt Being Afraid of Him
https://www.youtube.com/v/zI--v4_2OPA


Will Gatlin finally beat Bolt at Rio 2016 Olympic?
https://www.youtube.com/v/EYMcRucuW3I
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: che on August 03, 2016, 09:10:42 AM
Sports Illustrated predicts two medals for T&T . Silver for men 4x400m and Bronze for women 4x100m.
http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/01/rio-2016-olympics-medal-picks-predictions-projected-medal-count#tf
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 03, 2016, 02:04:48 PM

Trinidad and Tobago flag raised in Olympic village
🇹🇹

https://www.youtube.com/v/l455Rtpma4I
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Aviator on August 03, 2016, 09:09:38 PM
Sports Illustrated predicts two medals for T&T . Silver for men 4x400m and Bronze for women 4x100m.
http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/01/rio-2016-olympics-medal-picks-predictions-projected-medal-count#tf

Sounds about right.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 04, 2016, 12:31:14 AM
Sports Illustrated predicts two medals for T&T . Silver for men 4x400m and Bronze for women 4x100m.
http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/01/rio-2016-olympics-medal-picks-predictions-projected-medal-count#tf

  This should be motivation for Keshorn Walcott to prove them wrong  :)

Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 04, 2016, 05:49:41 AM
Sports Illustrated predicts two medals for T&T . Silver for men 4x400m and Bronze for women 4x100m.
http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/01/rio-2016-olympics-medal-picks-predictions-projected-medal-count#tf

Sounds about right.

I predicted the same. However I think the men 4x100 can squeeze a bronze. And of course we usually have a surprise medalist. My guess is Keshorn or maybe even Cedenio. For Cedenio to medal , one of the big 3 will have to mess up their race plan. If I had to choose out of the big 3, I will choose Kirani as the one to mess up his race plan.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Aviator on August 04, 2016, 06:17:58 AM
Sports Illustrated predicts two medals for T&T . Silver for men 4x400m and Bronze for women 4x100m.
http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/01/rio-2016-olympics-medal-picks-predictions-projected-medal-count#tf

  This should be motivation for Keshorn Walcott to prove them wrong  :)



Add the men's 4x1 to that list.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Aviator on August 04, 2016, 06:24:28 AM
Sports Illustrated predicts two medals for T&T . Silver for men 4x400m and Bronze for women 4x100m.
http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/01/rio-2016-olympics-medal-picks-predictions-projected-medal-count#tf

Sounds about right.

I predicted the same. However I think the men 4x100 can squeeze a bronze. And of course we usually have a surprise medalist. My guess is Keshorn or maybe even Cedenio. For Cedenio to medal , one of the big 3 will have to mess up their race plan. If I had to choose out of the big 3, I will choose Kirani as the one to mess up his race plan.

A bit of wishful thinking there Re Kirani. He has no track record of deviating from his game plan, and may be the most consistent of the 3 IMO. Keshorn has the best chance due to the more sporadic nature of his event and the fact that he has multiple chances to get it right.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 04, 2016, 08:08:05 AM
Sports Illustrated predicts two medals for T&T . Silver for men 4x400m and Bronze for women 4x100m.
http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/01/rio-2016-olympics-medal-picks-predictions-projected-medal-count#tf

Sounds about right.

I predicted the same. However I think the men 4x100 can squeeze a bronze. And of course we usually have a surprise medalist. My guess is Keshorn or maybe even Cedenio. For Cedenio to medal , one of the big 3 will have to mess up their race plan. If I had to choose out of the big 3, I will choose Kirani as the one to mess up his race plan.

A bit of wishful thinking there Re Kirani. He has no track record of deviating from his game plan, and may be the most consistent of the 3 IMO. Keshorn has the best chance due to the more sporadic nature of his event and the fact that he has multiple chances to get it right.

Actually Kirani did have a hiccup in 2013. Finished 7th. Last year he came 3rd at the WCs. All I'm saying is that if there is one to mess up the race plan out of the top 3, it will probably be Kirani. Not saying that he will. But best case scenario for Cedenio to medal.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Aviator on August 04, 2016, 12:49:40 PM
Sports Illustrated predicts two medals for T&T . Silver for men 4x400m and Bronze for women 4x100m.
http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/01/rio-2016-olympics-medal-picks-predictions-projected-medal-count#tf

Sounds about right.

I predicted the same. However I think the men 4x100 can squeeze a bronze. And of course we usually have a surprise medalist. My guess is Keshorn or maybe even Cedenio. For Cedenio to medal , one of the big 3 will have to mess up their race plan. If I had to choose out of the big 3, I will choose Kirani as the one to mess up his race plan.

A bit of wishful thinking there Re Kirani. He has no track record of deviating from his game plan, and may be the most consistent of the 3 IMO. Keshorn has the best chance due to the more sporadic nature of his event and the fact that he has multiple chances to get it right.

Actually Kirani did have a hiccup in 2013. Finished 7th. Last year he came 3rd at the WCs. All I'm saying is that if there is one to mess up the race plan out of the top 3, it will probably be Kirani. Not saying that he will. But best case scenario for Cedenio to medal.

Running 43.78 when your PR is 43.74 , is NOT messing up. Cmon man. He got food poisoning between the rounds in Moscow. The Kid is an ace! So if Cedenio wants to put himself into the medal conversation, he better have a 0.50s or better drop in PR come th the next 10 days.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 04, 2016, 01:40:08 PM
Sports Illustrated predicts two medals for T&T . Silver for men 4x400m and Bronze for women 4x100m.
http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/01/rio-2016-olympics-medal-picks-predictions-projected-medal-count#tf

Sounds about right.

I predicted the same. However I think the men 4x100 can squeeze a bronze. And of course we usually have a surprise medalist. My guess is Keshorn or maybe even Cedenio. For Cedenio to medal , one of the big 3 will have to mess up their race plan. If I had to choose out of the big 3, I will choose Kirani as the one to mess up his race plan.

A bit of wishful thinking there Re Kirani. He has no track record of deviating from his game plan, and may be the most consistent of the 3 IMO. Keshorn has the best chance due to the more sporadic nature of his event and the fact that he has multiple chances to get it right.

Actually Kirani did have a hiccup in 2013. Finished 7th. Last year he came 3rd at the WCs. All I'm saying is that if there is one to mess up the race plan out of the top 3, it will probably be Kirani. Not saying that he will. But best case scenario for Cedenio to medal.

Running 43.78 when your PR is 43.74 , is NOT messing up. Cmon man. He got food poisoning between the rounds in Moscow. The Kid is an ace! So if Cedenio wants to put himself into the medal conversation, he better have a 0.50s or better drop in PR come th the next 10 days.

Cedenio can only threaten the big 3 if he has quietly lowered his 200m PB to 20.50 or less in training and can stick with the race leaders over the first 300m in Rio and can still have enough energy and speed endurance left in the final 100m to execute his trademark kick down the home straight.
If Cedenio can do that in the next 10 days then he will not only break the T&T national 400m record but can also go sub-44 and snatch a medal in front of one of the big 3 if they are not at their very best in the final.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 04, 2016, 01:45:33 PM
Have to agree: although anyone could have a Zola Budd/Mary Decker moment, Kirani has not earned the label of losing the plot.
Title: My Updated Team TTO 2016 Olympics Medals Prediction
Post by: Socapro on August 04, 2016, 03:02:57 PM
My Updated Team TTO 2016 Olympics Medals Prediction:

If T&T has a bad Olympics we will probably win just 2 medals, both bronze, one in the Women's 4x100m and another in the Men's 4x400m.

If T&T has a good Olympics living up to our full potential we can win at least 4 medals, 3 bronze and 1 silver, bronze in both the Men's & Women's 4x100m, bronze in the Men's Javelin and silver in the Men's 4x400m.

We also have the potential to win 3 extra surprise bronze medals to add to the 4 above to take us up to 7 medals if we have a very good Olympics; bronze for Machel Cedenio in the 400m if he is ready to break the T&T NR in the Final and run near 44 flat or faster and bronze for Michelle-Lee Ahye in both the 100m and 200m Finals.

The 400m bronze by Cedenio will require one of the big 3 (James, Merritt or Van Niekerk) to mess up in the 400m final unless Cedenio is able to go sub-44 for the first time in his career and create history as a T&T athlete.

The bronze by MLA in the 100m and/or 200m will require her to remain injury free and to run new PB's in both Finals. She will need to run 10.7x in the 100m Final and 21.xx in the 200m Final to medal.
MLA definitely has the potential to run that fast if she remains injury free and peaks in the next 10 days or so.

We also have the potential to win two non-Track & Field medals, one in Cycling and another in Swimming.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 04, 2016, 03:45:01 PM

lol to actually have a good Olympics someone has to win Gold. Winning medals will be mediocre but unfortunately this is what we are used to historically. If our aim is 10 gold medals accumulated by 2024 (which means we are 8 short right now) then at least one gold medal has to be won this Olympics so that dream will have some slim reality
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 04, 2016, 03:59:55 PM

lol to actually have a good Olympics someone has to win Gold. Winning medals will be mediocre but unfortunately this is what we are used to historically. If our aim is 10 gold medals accumulated by 2024 (which means we are 8 short right now) then at least one gold medal has to be won this Olympics so that dream will have some slim reality

Why don't you make your own prediction for who will a gold medal for Team TTO and stop behaving like a circus clown complaining about other folks making realistic predictions then?

I am being as realistic as possible with my predictions and as far as I am concerned a very good Olympics for Team TTO will be us winning 4 or more medals even if none of them are gold. In fact I will much prefer us to win 4 or more realistic medals (1 silver and 3 bronze) than us wining just 1 fantasy gold medal as it will mean an overall better team performance which will please me more than just 1 fantasy gold medal.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 04, 2016, 04:14:21 PM

lol to actually have a good Olympics someone has to win Gold. Winning medals will be mediocre but unfortunately this is what we are used to historically. If our aim is 10 gold medals accumulated by 2024 (which means we are 8 short right now) then at least one gold medal has to be won this Olympics so that dream will have some slim reality

Why don't you make your own prediction for who will a gold medal for Team TTO and stop behaving like a circus clown complaining about other folks making realistic predictions then?

I am being as realistic as possible with my predictions and as far as I am concerned a very good Olympics for Team TTO will be us winning 4 or more medals even if none of them are gold. In fact I will much prefer us to win 4 or more realistic medals (1 silver and 3 bronze) than us wining just 1 fantasy gold medal as it will mean an overall better team performance which will please me more than just 1 fantasy gold medal.

lmao do not be mad at my assessment. When Olympics done look at the medal table, you will see nations who win one gold medal is ahead others that won several silver and bronze medals. A champion is a champion and the national anthem is played for a champion
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 04, 2016, 04:56:09 PM

lol to actually have a good Olympics someone has to win Gold. Winning medals will be mediocre but unfortunately this is what we are used to historically. If our aim is 10 gold medals accumulated by 2024 (which means we are 8 short right now) then at least one gold medal has to be won this Olympics so that dream will have some slim reality

Why don't you make your own prediction for who will a gold medal for Team TTO and stop behaving like a circus clown complaining about other folks making realistic predictions then?

I am being as realistic as possible with my predictions and as far as I am concerned a very good Olympics for Team TTO will be us winning 4 or more medals even if none of them are gold. In fact I will much prefer us to win 4 or more realistic medals (1 silver and 3 bronze) than us wining just 1 fantasy gold medal as it will mean an overall better team performance which will please me more than just 1 fantasy gold medal.

lmao do not be mad at my assessment. When Olympics done look at the medal table, you will see nations who win one gold medal is ahead others that won several silver and bronze medals. A champion is a champion and the national anthem is played for a champion

Blah Blah Blah Blah!!
Either make your prediction about which TTO athlete will definitely win gold in your eyes or shut your trap about expecting others here to make that prediction like a typical circus clown.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 04, 2016, 08:12:11 PM
Sports Illustrated predicts two medals for T&T . Silver for men 4x400m and Bronze for women 4x100m.
http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/01/rio-2016-olympics-medal-picks-predictions-projected-medal-count#tf

Sounds about right.

I predicted the same. However I think the men 4x100 can squeeze a bronze. And of course we usually have a surprise medalist. My guess is Keshorn or maybe even Cedenio. For Cedenio to medal , one of the big 3 will have to mess up their race plan. If I had to choose out of the big 3, I will choose Kirani as the one to mess up his race plan.

A bit of wishful thinking there Re Kirani. He has no track record of deviating from his game plan, and may be the most consistent of the 3 IMO. Keshorn has the best chance due to the more sporadic nature of his event and the fact that he has multiple chances to get it right.

Actually Kirani did have a hiccup in 2013. Finished 7th. Last year he came 3rd at the WCs. All I'm saying is that if there is one to mess up the race plan out of the top 3, it will probably be Kirani. Not saying that he will. But best case scenario for Cedenio to medal.

Running 43.78 when your PR is 43.74 , is NOT messing up. Cmon man. He got food poisoning between the rounds in Moscow. The Kid is an ace! So if Cedenio wants to put himself into the medal conversation, he better have a 0.50s or better drop in PR come th the next 10 days.

Never knew that he got food poisoning in 2013. Well with that, I don't know who will mess up their race plan. All are the best of the best. I guess we can only hope that anyone of them get drawn in a bad lane and Cedenio get drawn in the best lane. Still he will have to win one of the semi finals.

Just a FYI.  Elaine Thompson has to prove to the JAAA that she is in good condition. If she does not do it by Monday, the JAAA will have to give her spot to someone else. If she is out, then "maybe"    (in a very quiet voice), MLA might have a chance. Although I do think Elaine will still get picked, we will see what condition her hamstring is in.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 04, 2016, 10:13:00 PM
Sports Illustrated predicts two medals for T&T . Silver for men 4x400m and Bronze for women 4x100m.
http://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/01/rio-2016-olympics-medal-picks-predictions-projected-medal-count#tf

Sounds about right.

I predicted the same. However I think the men 4x100 can squeeze a bronze. And of course we usually have a surprise medalist. My guess is Keshorn or maybe even Cedenio. For Cedenio to medal , one of the big 3 will have to mess up their race plan. If I had to choose out of the big 3, I will choose Kirani as the one to mess up his race plan.

A bit of wishful thinking there Re Kirani. He has no track record of deviating from his game plan, and may be the most consistent of the 3 IMO. Keshorn has the best chance due to the more sporadic nature of his event and the fact that he has multiple chances to get it right.

Actually Kirani did have a hiccup in 2013. Finished 7th. Last year he came 3rd at the WCs. All I'm saying is that if there is one to mess up the race plan out of the top 3, it will probably be Kirani. Not saying that he will. But best case scenario for Cedenio to medal.

Running 43.78 when your PR is 43.74 , is NOT messing up. Cmon man. He got food poisoning between the rounds in Moscow. The Kid is an ace! So if Cedenio wants to put himself into the medal conversation, he better have a 0.50s or better drop in PR come th the next 10 days.

Never knew that he got food poisoning in 2013. Well with that, I don't know who will mess up their race plan. All are the best of the best. I guess we can only hope that anyone of them get drawn in a bad lane and Cedenio get drawn in the best lane. Still he will have to win one of the semi finals.

Just a FYI.  Elaine Thompson has to prove to the JAAA that she is in good condition. If she does not do it by Monday, the JAAA will have to give her spot to someone else. If she is out, then "maybe"    (in a very quiet voice), MLA might have a chance. Although I do think Elaine will still get picked, we will see what condition her hamstring is in.

If Elaine Thmpson was still unfit then her coach Stephen Francis would have indicated such in this article: http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/sports/20160802/fraser-pryce-good-ever-coach-francis

Instead the last paragraph says:
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Fraser-Pryce won gold at the Beijing and London Olympics and is expected to square off against her training partner Elaine Thompson and Dutch star Dafne Schippers in what is sure to be a fierce contest for the top podium spot.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 05, 2016, 06:57:36 AM
@ Socapro

Here is an article dated the day after the one you posted. Thompson still has to prove to the JAAA that she is ready to go.

http://trackalerts.com/Articles/medical-exemptions-has-some-waiting-to-exhale/18727
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 05, 2016, 05:07:39 PM
Nice one from our T&T athletes in Rio  :beermug: 🇹🇹

https://twitter.com/briaclew/status/761376529037135872?s=04

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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 05, 2016, 07:18:46 PM

Athletes representing Trinidad and Tobago just before the opening ceremony of Rio Olympics! 🇹🇹

https://www.facebook.com/TTOlympicCommittee/photos/a.183804871665991.38714.123604181019394/1080812195298583/?type=3&theater

Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 05, 2016, 11:25:00 PM
If anything else, at the very least, I or we would love/want to see a female athlete win a medal. It is long OVERDUE!!!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: ProudTrinbagonian on August 10, 2016, 12:20:02 PM
T&F News not the most optimistic about our T&F medaling chances. 2 for the men, zero for the women.
We perform better with little to no expectations anyway, time to prove them wrong

Summary of their predictions below:
1 silver predicted for the 4x400 m
1 bronze predicted for Keshorn in javelin

Cedenio predicted to come in 4th in 400 m
T&T men predicted to come in 10th in 4x100  :bs:
MLA 10th in 100M & 200M   :bs:
T&T women predicted to come in 6th in 4x100   :bs:

MEN: http://trackandfieldnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3035
WOMEN: http://trackandfieldnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3036

Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 10, 2016, 01:21:40 PM
The biggest upset in London was Keshorn. The pundits did not know how to deal with this or still have no idea how to deal with it. But like you stated above.

We perform better with little to no expectations anyway, time to prove them wrong
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 10, 2016, 06:01:02 PM
The biggest upset in London was Keshorn. The pundits did not know how to deal with this or still have no idea how to deal with it. But like you stated above.

We perform better with little to no expectations anyway, time to prove them wrong

About 2 weeks ago they predicted one medal i.e. women's 4x100. Now they are saying Keshorn because the Egyptian is banned
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Swima on August 11, 2016, 06:55:35 AM
Start lists up for Friday.

Cleo in group 1 of the shot put prelims.

Men's 400 here. Top 3 plus 3 fastest. Looks like Lendore has the toughest heat of the three locals.

https://www.rio2016.com/en/athletics-mens-400m-round-1-heat-1
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 11, 2016, 08:43:38 AM
Start lists up for Friday.

Cleo in group 1 of the shot put prelims.

Men's 400 here. Top 3 plus 3 fastest. Looks like Lendore has the toughest heat of the three locals.

https://www.rio2016.com/en/athletics-mens-400m-round-1-heat-1
:thumbsup:
Title: CARIBBEAN AT THE RIO OLYMPICS - ATHLETICS
Post by: Socapro on August 12, 2016, 04:54:09 AM
CARIBBEAN AT THE RIO OLYMPICS - ATHLETICS (http://trackalerts.com/Articles/caribbean-at-the-rio-olympics-athletics/19151)
By Clayton Clarke -  August 9, 2016 (TrackAlerts.com)


One hundred and fifty-three (153) Caribbean Olympians have been entered to compete in the Athletics, set to begin on Friday, August 12 at the Olympic Stadium in Rio de Janeiro. Jamaica will field the largest number (52) ahead of Trinidad and Tobago and Bahamas (25), Antigua and Barbuda & St. Kitts Nevis (7), Barbados (6), Grenada (5), Guyana (4) and British Virgin Islands and US Virgin Islands (3). Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Dominica, St. Lucia, St. Vincent & the Grenadines, Belize, Haiti and Suriname each has two competitors entered.

Bahamas initially entered 28 athletes but 100m hurdlers, Devynne Charlton and Adanca Brown and 4x400m selectee, Shaniqua Dorsette, withdrew because of injury. Barbados lost 200m sprinter, Sada Williams, to injury, as well.

The Sprints will again be the feature events for the Caribbean with twenty-six (26) entries in the 100m, 17 in 200m and 20 in the 400m. In the hurdles, the region’s numbers are 14 in the 100m/110m hurdles and 11 in the 400m hurdles. Jamaica has registered the full three quotas in all sprints as well as the hurdles. Trinidad and Tobago has full presentation in the men’s 100m and 400m and the women’s 100m and 200m. Jamaica is listed to field teams in all four relays with Trinidad and Tobago entered in three (men /women 4x100m. M 4x400m). Bahamas will feature in the M/W 4x400m while Antigua and Barbuda and St. Kitts Nevis are among the field in the M 4x100m.

In the field events, the region will have participants – ten – in all four throwing disciplines for the first time. Jamaica is the only country/territory with a presence in all field disciplines, a full quota of three in the women’s discus, one in the shot putt and a first time participant in the women’s hammer. British Virgin Islands will debut in the throws with a competitor in the men’s shot put. In the jumps, nine will do battle as Bahamas leads with full representation (three) in the men’s high jump, two in the men’s triple jump and one in the women’s long jump.

In the middle and long distance events, two Jamaicans (women’s 3000m steeplechase and men’s 5000m) will be the only Caribbean runners.

COUNTRY   TOTAL   MALE   FEMALE
Antigua and Barbuda   7   6   1
Bahamas   25   16   9
Barbados   6   3   3
Bermuda   2   2   0
British Virgin Islands   3   2   1
Cayman Islands   2   2   0
Dominica   2   1   1
Grenada   5   4   1
Guyana   4   2   2
Jamaica   52   24   28
St. Lucia   2   0   2
St. Kitts   7   6   1
St. Vincent & the Grenadines   2   1   1
Trinidad and Tobago   25   16   9
US Virgin Islands   3   2   1
Belize   2   1   1
Haiti   2   1   1
Suiname   2   1   1
153   90   63

100m

Men(16):
  Daniel Bailey, Cehjae Green (ANT);  Adrian Griffith, Shavez Hart, Jamial Rolle (BAH); Ramon Gittens (BAR); Kemar Hyman (CAY); Darrell Wesh (HAI); Nickel Ashmeade, Yohan Blake, Usain Bolt (JAM); Antoine Adams, Kim Collins, (SKN); Jurgen Themen (SUR); Keston Bledman, Rondel Sorrillo, Richard Thompson (TTO)

Women(10): Tynia Gaither (BAH); Tahesia Harrigan-Scott (IVB); Brenessa Thompson (GUY); Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce, Elaine Thompson, Christania Williams (JAM); Sunayna Wahi (SUR); Michelle-Lee Ahye, Semoy Hackett, Kelly-An Baptiste (TTO)

200m

Men(14):
Miguel Francis (ANT),  Shavez Hart, Teray Smith (BAH); Levi Cadogan, Burkhart Ellis Jr, Ramon Gittens (BAR); Harold Houston (BER); Bradon Jones (BIZ); Nickel Ashmeade, Yohan Blake, Usain Bolt (JAM).  Antoine Adams (SKN); Rondel Sorrillo, Kyle Greaux (TTO);

Women(13): Sheniqua Ferguson (BAH), Tynia Gaither, Anthonique Strachan (BAH),  Ashley Kelly (IVB); Brenessa Thompson (GUY); Veronica Campbell-Brown, Simone Facey, Elaine Thompson (JAM), Tameka Williams (SKN)’ Michelle-Lee Ahye, Semoy Hackett, Reyare Thomas (TTO); Lavern Jones-Ferrette (ISV)

400m

Men(13):
Chris Brown, Steven Gardiner, Alonzo Russell (BAH); Kirani James, Bralon Taplin (GRN); Winston George (GUY); Fitzroy Dunkley, Javon Francis, Rusheen McDonald (JAM); Brandon Valentine-Parris (VIN); Machel Cedenio, Lalonde Gordon, Deon Lendore (TTO)

Women(7): Shaunae Miller (BAH); Kanika Beckles (GRN); Aliyah Abrams (GUY); Christine Day, Shericka Jackson, Stephenie Ann McPherson (JAM), Kineke Alexander (VIN)

800m

Women(3):
Simoya Campbell, Natoya, Goule, Kenia St. Clair (JAM)

5000m

Men(1):
Kemoy Campbell (JAM)

100m hurdles

Women(7):
Pedrya Seymour (BAH); Kierre Beckles (BAR); Katy Sealy (BIZ); Mulern Jean (HAI); Megan Simmonds, Shermaine Williams, Nickiesha  Wilson (JAM)

110m hurdles

Men(7):
Ronald Forbes (CAY); jeffrey Julmis (HAI); Deuce Carter, Omar McLeod, Andrew Riley (JAM); Mikel Thomas (TTO); Eddie Lovette (ISV)


400m hurdles

Men(5):
Jeffery Gibson (BAH); Roxroy Cato, Jaheel Hyde, Annsert, Whyte (JAM); Jehue Gordon (TTO)

Women(6): Tia-Adana Belle (BAR); Leah Nugent, Janieve Russell, Ristananna Tracey (JAM); Janiel Bellille, Sparkle McKnight (TTO)

3000m Steeplechase

Women(1):
Aisha Praught (JAM)

High jump

Men(3):
Trevor Barry, Donald Thomas, Jamal Wilson (BAH)

Women(3): Priscilla Frederick (ANT);  Akela Jones (BAR); Jeanelle Scheper, Levern Spencer (LC)

Long jump

Men(3):
Tyrone Smith (BER); Damar Forbes, Aubrey Smith (JAM)

Women(1): Bianca Stuart (BAH)

Triple jump

Men(6):
Latario Collie-Minns, Leevan Sand (BAH); Yordanys Duranona (DMA); Troy Doris (GUY); Clive Pullen (JAM); Muhammad Halim (ISV)

Women(3): Thea Lafond (DMA); Shanieka Thomas, Kimberly Williams (JAM)

Shot put

Men(2):
Eldred Henry (IVB); O’Dayne Richards (JAM)

Women(2): Danniel Thomas (JAM); Cleopatra Borel(TTO)

Discus

Men:(1)
Fedrick Darces (JAM)

Women(3): Tarasue Barnett, Kellion Knibb, Shadae Lawrence (JAM)

Hammer

Women(1):
Daina Levy (JAM)

Javelin

Men(1):
Keshorn Walcott (TTO)

Heptathlon

Women(1):
Akela Jones (BAR)

Decathlon

Men(2):
Kurt Felix, Lindon Victor (GRN)

4x100m

Men(4):
ANT; JAM; SKN; TTO

Women(2): JAM; TTO

4x400m

Men(3):
BAH; JAM; TTO

Women(2): BAH; JAM
Title: Team TTO Athletes in action today!!
Post by: Socapro on August 12, 2016, 05:26:08 AM
Team TTO Athletes in action today!!

https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/olympic-games/the-xxxi-olympic-games-5771/country/trinidad-and-tobago

TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO AT THE XXXI OLYMPIC GAMES, BRAZIL RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL 05 AUG 2016 - 21 AUG 2016
     
UPCOMING EVENTS - 12 AUG 2016 (Click links below to view Startlists & Results)

SEX   ATHLETE   DOB   DISCIPLINE   ROUND   LOCAL TIME   MY TIME   PB   SB

W   Cleopatra BOREL   10/03/1979   Shot Put   Qualification (https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/olympic-games/the-xxxi-olympic-games-5771/results/women/shot-put/qualification/startlist#1)   10:05   13:05   19.48i   18.78
M   Machel CEDENIO   06/09/1995   400 Metres   Heats (https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/olympic-games/the-xxxi-olympic-games-5771/results/men/400-metres/heats/startlist#1)   21:05   00:05   44.34   44.34
M   Lalonde GORDON   25/11/1988   400 Metres   Heats (https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/olympic-games/the-xxxi-olympic-games-5771/results/men/400-metres/heats/startlist#1)   21:29   00:29   44.52   44.69
M   Deon LENDORE   28/10/1992   400 Metres   Heats (https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/olympic-games/the-xxxi-olympic-games-5771/results/men/400-metres/heats/startlist#1)   21:37   00:37   44.36   45.31
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 12, 2016, 08:50:25 AM
World record in the 10000m geh lick down. Several records broken in that race. Dibaba could not hang with her compatriot. First track final of these Games and what a run. :applause:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 09:31:58 AM
That was friggin superb. The first four was lapping slower runners like crazy. Congrats to the East Africans.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 12, 2016, 10:22:28 AM
That was friggin superb. The first four was lapping slower runners like crazy. Congrats to the East Africans.

It was almost confusing. The US finished 6th and that constituted a new US record. We need entrants at this distance.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 11:10:07 AM
T&T's Cleopatra Borel threw 18.20 to qualify for the women's shot putt final.

Go for Gold Cleo!
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 11:48:16 AM
T&T's Cleopatra Borel threw 18.20 to qualify for the women's shot putt final.

Go for Gold Cleo!
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Yessssssssssssss!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 12:50:05 PM
T&T's Cleopatra Borel threw 18.20 to qualify for the women's shot putt final.

Go for Gold Cleo!
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This interview with Cleo is nice,  I could feel her energy and patriotism  🇹🇹

https://www.facebook.com/TTOlympicCommittee/videos/1085531928159943/

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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: maxg on August 12, 2016, 01:24:37 PM
That was friggin superb. The first four was lapping slower runners like crazy. Congrats to the East Africans.

It was almost confusing. The US finished 6th and that constituted a new US record. We need entrants at this distance.
Training crosses to many mugging zones  ::)
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 06:32:40 PM


VIDEO: MACHEL CEDENIO WINS 400 METRES HEAT 1 in 44.99

https://www.facebook.com/CNC3Television/posts/10154452563182996
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 06:33:53 PM
Lalonde just won his heat. This guy does run like if he strolling in the park.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 06:39:23 PM
Dion did not make it
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 06:39:41 PM
Deon Lendore run was terrible, his form was bad and he looked like he wanted to be somewhere else. Mentally he was not there smh

I hope he get his mind together for the relays
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 12, 2016, 06:41:22 PM
Dion did not make it
That workload at Texas A&M has caught up with him.
Like Briana Rollins who went stale for a year after college, he may have to regather and come good next year.
At least we'll have a fresh man in reserves for the relay
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 06:48:27 PM
Kirani stroll thru with ease.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 06:51:09 PM
It look like a Bajan girl running 3rd in the women's hethaplon?!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Aviator on August 12, 2016, 06:52:37 PM
I really don't know what good he will do us fresh with an a$$ run likethat. If I was management the final 4 is Gordon, Cedenio, Solomon and Quow. Lendore has to earn his spot in the heats.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 07:05:42 PM
Women shot put final now on. Valeri Adams is a giant.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 07:25:26 PM

VIDEO: CLEOPATRA BOREL'S FIRST THROW IN THE FINAL OF 18.05 METRES

https://www.facebook.com/CNC3Television/videos/10154452652997996/

Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 08:00:13 PM
Michelle Carter SHOCK Valeri!!!! Cleo 7th. Congrats to her.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 08:00:55 PM
Cleo finished in 7th position. Hope she build on this for next year World Championships
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 08:11:44 PM
Wow, Kelly-Ann not like the Kelly of old. 4th.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 08:14:35 PM
KAB failed to progress to the semis. This makes me worry if she will be ready or capable at this stage in her career to run fast times in the relays
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 08:18:46 PM
Still cannot believe KAB ran 11.42  >:(

Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Aviator on August 12, 2016, 08:20:48 PM
SMFH!!!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 08:25:08 PM
Michelle-Lee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11 flat!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 08:26:58 PM
What the..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It looks like Kelly-Ann did qualify.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 12, 2016, 08:27:29 PM
KAB injured?! Wthhhhh.....
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 08:31:17 PM

very impressive run from Ahye. She look real good in that race
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 12, 2016, 08:35:02 PM
Semoy did not make it?!?!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: RC on August 12, 2016, 08:39:17 PM
Gordon in a very difficult semi
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Dinner Mints on August 12, 2016, 08:50:29 PM
Gordon in a very difficult semi
Semoy made it. KAB didn't.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 09:01:49 PM

Dinner Mints yuh quote the wrong person hoss  :D
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 12, 2016, 09:02:17 PM
If it's not injury then KAB should have stayed with Ato lol. At least she will be well rested for the 4x100m. Come back stronger Kelly.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 12, 2016, 09:03:56 PM


VIDEO: MICHELLE LEE AHYE wins her heat in 11.00!

https://www.facebook.com/CNC3Television/posts/10154452753187996
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Dinner Mints on August 12, 2016, 09:05:20 PM

Dinner Mints yuh quote the wrong person hoss  :D
I eh even bothering to fix it.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 12, 2016, 09:34:40 PM
MEN'S 400M SEMI-FINALS START LISTS

Can't understand these semi assignments - heat 3 is a cake walk compared to 1 and 2.

Tough going for Lalonde in lane #3 but he can see the opposition.
If he runs close to Merritt and James and beats out Santos he has a chance

Cedenio has a decent lane draw but cannot leave it late
He needs to run like he did in the first 300m of his heat

FIRST 2 IN EACH HEAT (Q) AND THE NEXT 2 FASTEST (Q)
HEAT 1
ORDER / LANE   BIB   ATHLETE   COUNTRY   SB 2016   PB
1   2620   Javon FRANCIS   JAM JAM   44.77   44.50
2   2125   Karabo SIBANDA   BOT BOT   45.15   45.15
3   2980   Lalonde GORDON   TTO TTO   44.69   44.52
4   2539   Kirani JAMES   GRN GRN   44.08   43.74
5   2262   Nery BRENES   CRC CRC   44.60   44.60
6   3090   LaShawn MERRITT   USA USA   43.97   43.65
7   2327   Luguelín SANTOS   DOM DOM   45.47   44.11
8   2780   Liemarvin BONEVACIA   NED NED   45.41   44.72

HEAT 2
ORDER / LANE   BIB   ATHLETE   COUNTRY   SB 2016   PB
1   3102   David VERBURG   USA USA   44.82   44.41
2   2304   Pavel MASLÁK   CZE CZE   45.13   44.79
3   2910   Wayde VAN NIEKERK   RSA RSA   44.11   43.48
4   2623   Rusheen MCDONALD   JAM JAM   45.22   43.93
5   2977   Machel CEDENIO   TTO TTO   44.34   44.34
6   2929   Luka JANEŽIC   SLO SLO   45.22   45.22
7   2880   Abdalelah HAROUN   QAT QAT   44.81   44.27
8   2126   Baboloki THEBE   BOT BOT   44.22   44.22

HEAT 3
ORDER / LANE   BIB   ATHLETE   COUNTRY   SB 2016   PB
1   2121   Isaac MAKWALA   BOT BOT   44.85   43.72
2   2849   Rafal OMELKO   POL POL   45.14   45.14
3   2171   Ali Khamis KHAMIS   BRN BRN   44.55   44.55
4   3093   Gil ROBERTS   USA USA   44.67   44.53
5   2065   Steven GARDINER   BAH BAH   44.46   44.27
6   2540   Bralon TAPLIN   GRN GRN   44.38   44.38
7   2275   Yoandys LESCAY   CUB CUB   45.36   45.13
8   2461   Matthew HUDSON-SMITH   GBR GBR   44.88   44.75
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 12, 2016, 10:49:26 PM
I feel for Kelly. I really would like for her to fulfill her potential. I feel like she still has years left. I just dont know what happened
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 13, 2016, 05:08:10 AM
Seems partially mental with KAB.   Was leaving Ato's camp the right decision?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 13, 2016, 06:36:17 AM
I don't know what it is with KAB, but I hope she resolve it when time for the relays. I also feel for her.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 13, 2016, 08:54:46 AM
It could be the timing of when she left rather than leaving itself. I do believe there is a mental aspect to it. She is better than that by a mile... At about 60m she just seemed to hit a wall. Could be the timing of the heats comined with the weather too. I just want her to come back stronger.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: soccerman on August 13, 2016, 09:31:15 AM
So far it's not looking good for our men in the 100M heats
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Aviator on August 13, 2016, 09:46:16 AM
abject f!?$ing failures...what sh!t  is really on display right now from our athletes?????  :cursing:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 13, 2016, 09:47:15 AM
So far it's not looking good for our men in the 100M heats

You really thought the Trini men would progress? I am not surprised. That era has come to an end. We not winning a medal in the 4x100 men relay.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 13, 2016, 09:49:42 AM
Where Socapro? He say this 4x100 team would have run under 38. They lucky if they make the final.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 13, 2016, 10:03:50 AM
10.20, 10.23, 10.29 after running sub-10s in NAAA champs.

They said they had a great camp, and these guys are experienced, so it couldn't be nerves, they knew what level of effort was required. Maybe it is just as you all say, an end of an era, guys legs just too worn out.

Can't remember when last (with quality entries) we didn't advance anyone past the 2nd round/QF at the WC or OG
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: soccerman on August 13, 2016, 10:11:27 AM
I'm surprised not even one of them advanced., I thought this was where we had our strongest athletes.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 13, 2016, 10:19:16 AM
I'm surprised not even one of them advanced., I thought this was where we had our strongest athletes.

Best chances in Track is w100 aand m400, specifically MLA and MC. MLA looked amazingly comfortable for that 11 flat. If she maintains that for 3 rounds tonight should be interesting.   M40 is stacked with Kirani, Wade, Merrit and Santos. If MC can sustain and improve his PB who knows.

Sportwise I am footballer, but always anxious at the time of the Olympics, not sure how serious we are in athletics, there is an uptick visible to even myself compared to say 96, but not at the level where we are consistent world contenders. You experts can say why....
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 13, 2016, 10:51:08 AM
I'm surprised not even one of them advanced., I thought this was where we had our strongest athletes.

If you based your opinion on national trial times but this is our weakest 100m pool since 2008.  I expected RT and KB to reach semis at best.  I think they can sneak in the finals based on experience and very good baton exchanges.  Leg speed is not in our favor.  If we make finals and everything works great for us I see 5th or 6th place at best (well rested, good exchanges and others messing up).  major mess ups could lead to a bronze but that is just wishful thinking.  if we make finals, we coming last.  That being said, we shouldn't criticize these guys, they served us very well and this era is ending during this Olympics.

Instead of blaming them, blame the NAAA.  There is no young sprint talent in the pipeline except for St Fort.

Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 13, 2016, 10:56:20 AM
I think our best medal hopes are the men 4x4.  We can get silver if Lendore is in form.  he looked horrible yesterday.  Lalonde looked like he ran his best race already.

Keshorn and MLA are dark horses for medals.  I expect both to reach finals (javelin and 100) but finish 4th - 6th range.  Hope I am wrong.

Women 4x1 can medal with good exchanges, KAB finding her legs and we need some teams to mess up a little.

Cedenio needs to not only break Ian's record which I believe he will but he got to run sub 44 to have a chance at a medal.  I predict 4th place for him.  Again I hope I am wrong.  Would love for him to crazy that 3 man party.

Don't be surprised if jehue goes out in the first round.

Semoy might surprise ppl and squeeze in the 200 finals otherwise semis is a realistic expectation.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 13, 2016, 11:23:58 AM
I honestly do not know why Jehue is on the team, his season's best shows as 50.30 on the IAAF website. Emanuel Mayers has run 50.05 and as of 2015 showed he can contribute sufficiently to the 4x400m pool in the Panam Games.

And let's be honest, being in Ato's camp did not yield what was expected - KSF improved/PRed barely and has been injured; there was much fanfare about RT running the 200m this year but did not happen anywhere near frequent nor with quality (maybe his car accident had something to do with that); KAB left for some reason that we will find out in due course. I think his transition to coaching is a work in progress and his camp may need to mature like others with resources in sports science, massage therapy, dietetics.

As has been echoed - being a world class junior athlete doesn't ensure the same success as a senior. Well, being a world class senior athlete does not necessarily translate into a world class coach. As an ambitious fella I expect he will eventually succeed tremendously.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 13, 2016, 12:05:45 PM
I think our best medal hopes are the men 4x4.  We can get silver if Lendore is in form.  he looked horrible yesterday.  Lalonde looked like he ran his best race already.

Keshorn and MLA are dark horses for medals.  I expect both to reach finals (javelin and 100) but finish 4th - 6th range.  Hope I am wrong.

Women 4x1 can medal with good exchanges, KAB finding her legs and we need some teams to mess up a little.

Cedenio needs to not only break Ian's record which I believe he will but he got to run sub 44 to have a chance at a medal.  I predict 4th place for him.  Again I hope I am wrong.  Would love for him to crazy that 3 man party.

Don't be surprised if jehue goes out in the first round.

Semoy might surprise ppl and squeeze in the 200 finals otherwise semis is a realistic expectation.

Spot on and no they shouldn't be put down as they have served us well. I think we are no where near as disappointed as they would be in themselves right now. So what they need is encouragement.

Personally I would love to have strength on both of our women's and men's sprint teams at the same time. NAAA needs to see this and realize we need some programs set up for developing our sprint talent.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 12:06:16 PM
What impressed me the most about Ahye heat was how much she had left in the tank after running 11:00 with ease. Looking forward to her semi final run. She has the entire country behind her right now supporting her
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 13, 2016, 12:58:43 PM
What impressed me the most about Ahye heat was how much she had left in the tank after running 11:00 with ease. Looking forward to her semi final run. She has the entire country behind her right now supporting her

She looked good but assuming they get a wind between 0-2.0, 10.7 - 10.8 is going to be the range to medal.  You got Elaine Thompson, Dafne, the 3 Americans and SAFP cannot be ignored.  Plus you have another 3-4 sprinters in great form including MLA.  She got to break the national record to medal and probably even do it in the semis as well to get to the finals.

I think the women's 100m is the most competitive event in the Olympics.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 13, 2016, 01:03:19 PM
I honestly do not know why Jehue is on the team, his season's best shows as 50.30 on the IAAF website. Emanuel Mayers has run 50.05 and as of 2015 showed he can contribute sufficiently to the 4x400m pool in the Panam Games.

And let's be honest, being in Ato's camp did not yield what was expected - KSF improved/PRed barely and has been injured; there was much fanfare about RT running the 200m this year but did not happen anywhere near frequent nor with quality (maybe his car accident had something to do with that); KAB left for some reason that we will find out in due course. I think his transition to coaching is a work in progress and his camp may need to mature like others with resources in sports science, massage therapy, dietetics.

As has been echoed - being a world class junior athlete doesn't ensure the same success as a senior. Well, being a world class senior athlete does not necessarily translate into a world class coach. As an ambitious fella I expect he will eventually succeed tremendously.

RT has never been the same after the accident but we got to give him props for the effort in the relays over the years.  Hope he and the team can give us one more medal and go out in style.

As for Ato I think he will get better once committed.  Between coaching and being a commentator that seems like a lot to do but that is for him to decide.  I don't know his schedule so I cant say he should do one or both.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 01:03:38 PM
What impressed me the most about Ahye heat was how much she had left in the tank after running 11:00 with ease. Looking forward to her semi final run. She has the entire country behind her right now supporting her

She looked good but assuming they get a wind between 0-2.0, 10.7 - 10.8 is going to be the range to medal.  You got Elaine Thompson, Dafne, the 3 Americans and SAFP cannot be ignored.  Plus you have another 3-4 sprinters in great form including MLA.  She got to break the national record to medal and probably even do it in the semis as well to get to the finals.

I think the women's 100m is the most competitive event in the Olympics.

I am willing to wait to see how the semi finals turn out before making any assumptions. And who dare say those same sprinters you named cannot push Ahye to run faster than her personal best? We shall see what will happen
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: davyjenny1 on August 13, 2016, 01:13:56 PM
Who here noticed bolt ran his heat in red,white and black track shoes?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 13, 2016, 01:27:41 PM
What impressed me the most about Ahye heat was how much she had left in the tank after running 11:00 with ease. Looking forward to her semi final run. She has the entire country behind her right now supporting her

Honestly I have zero expectations from now on forward. If MLA makes the final cool, if she wins a medal congratulations and I will be proud but zero expectations is the way forward I think. Anything can happen.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 04:37:25 PM
I am reading some of the comments on social media in response to poor performances from most of our athletes at the Olympics.

All I would say is the T&T public is used to failures from our national athletes so they have been conditioned to commend failure. Athletes struggling to get out the preliminary stages and I see people commenting with "you did great" .."you made the country proud"..

Who to blame for this weakness in our national psyche?
.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 13, 2016, 05:05:51 PM
What impressed me the most about Ahye heat was how much she had left in the tank after running 11:00 with ease. Looking forward to her semi final run. She has the entire country behind her right now supporting her

She did. But seemed less potentially explosive than SAFP.

When are the next rounds of sprints?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 13, 2016, 05:08:48 PM
Where Socapro? He say this 4x100 team would have run under 38. They lucky if they make the final.

Stop twisting my words my friend. I said they are capable of running sub-38 if everyone appears in similar form to what they displayed at National Champs. I did not say that they would have run under 38.

Plus the 4x100m relay is yet to come so they still have the ability if they can get their act together and want to contend for a medal.

What we know for sure is that they will need to run sub-38 if they wish to medal in the relay.
Its not impossible if everyone is firing and the baton exchanges are all on point so we lose no gound on the exchanges.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 05:19:25 PM
What impressed me the most about Ahye heat was how much she had left in the tank after running 11:00 with ease. Looking forward to her semi final run. She has the entire country behind her right now supporting her

She did. But seemed less potentially explosive than SAFP.

When are the next rounds of sprints?

Men 400m semi final in less than an hour tonight

Women 100m semi finals about an hour after the men semi finals tonight
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 13, 2016, 05:28:24 PM
Where Socapro? He say this 4x100 team would have run under 38. They lucky if they make the final.

Stop twisting my words my friend. I said they are capable of running sub-38 if everyone appears in similar form to what they displayed at National Champs. I did not say that they would have run under 38.

Plus the 4x100m relay is yet to come so they still have the ability if they can get their act together and want to contend for a medal.

What we know for sure is that they will need to run sub-38 if they wish to medal in the relay.
Its not impossible if everyone is firing and the baton exchanges are all on point so we lose no gound on the exchanges.

I respect your optimism Soca. But this team is not capable of running sub 38, 38.1 or 38.2. The 2012 team did not run sub 38. And Richard, Keston and Emmanuel were in much better form then. I see them running  about 38.2 at the best.  Won't be enough for a medal.

One last thing, something is not looking right for KB, RT and RS. They looked 10x better at trials. They all ran the race much smoother. But today they all looked sloppy. They all looked like they are nursing something.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 13, 2016, 05:30:05 PM
What impressed me the most about Ahye heat was how much she had left in the tank after running 11:00 with ease. Looking forward to her semi final run. She has the entire country behind her right now supporting her

She did. But seemed less potentially explosive than SAFP.

When are the next rounds of sprints?

Men 400m semi final in less than an hour tonight

Women 100m semi finals about an hour after the men semi finals tonight
.

I am seeing it now live. Lalonde is about to race. I won't say the results until yoy see it. It will be tape delayed by NBC. So I won't spoil it for you.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 05:50:35 PM

Nice semi final run Cedenio. I am backing you to spring an upset in the final and win a medal. Give it your all youngster.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: jason23 on August 13, 2016, 06:04:05 PM
I am reading some of the comments on social media in response to poor performances from most of our athletes at the Olympics.

All I would say is the T&T public is used to failures from our national athletes so they have been conditioned to commend failure. Athletes struggling to get out the preliminary stages and I see people commenting with "you did great" .."you made the country proud"..

Who to blame for this weakness in our national psyche?
.


Sando prince i think that all blame should be at the Sporting Administrators and NGO's in the country and not the athletes
just my opinion, that we have failed our athletes with poor training and inflated ego's
ask your self this question, as this era is coming to an end with RT and KB etc
who is the next sprinter in Trinidad that is gonna take there place? or from Tobago??????

we have no structure and plan, at all
more like pelting mango on mango season hoping to find ah athlete by chance
perfect EG: since Serrette has taken over NAAA we have regressed in carifta consistently, no programs are in place for Nuturing the young ones, heck if ato didn't bring in Khalifa we would of been in shit street for our women sprinting going in to the future and that jus shows where we are as a Sporting nation!!

weakness in our national pride= Carnival freeness
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 06:09:46 PM
Ahye had a poor start and still managed to be in front. She would have easily won that semi final with a better start.
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: RC on August 13, 2016, 06:25:52 PM
MLA looked good and could possibly sneak a medal. SAFP was by far the most impressive and could well become a 3 time champion
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 13, 2016, 06:30:19 PM
MLA looked good and could possibly sneak a medal. SAFP was by far the most impressive and could well become a 3 time champion

Gold has Thompson's name on it. Shelly looked like she was in some pain.

Michelle can SNEAK a medal if that start gets some fine tuning.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 13, 2016, 06:34:03 PM
How de hell Taplin got lane 4 in the final with Cedenio in lane 3?

FIRST 2 IN EACH HEAT (Q) AND THE NEXT 2 FASTEST (Q)
POS   RANK   HEAT   BIB   ATHLETE   COUNTRY   RESULTS
1   1   1   2539   Kirani JAMES   GRNGRN   44.02 Q SB
2   2   1   3090   LaShawn MERRITT   USAUSA   44.21 Q
3   1   2   2977   Machel CEDENIO   TTOTTO   44.39 Q
4   1   3   2540   Bralon TAPLIN   GRNGRN   44.44 Q

5   2   2   2910   Wayde VAN NIEKERK   RSARSA   44.45 Q
6   3   1   2125   Karabo SIBANDA   BOTBOT   44.47 q PB
7   2   3   2461   Matthew HUDSON-SMITH   GBRGBR   44.48 Q PB
8   3   3   2171   Ali Khamis KHAMIS   BRNBRN   44.49 q NR

ORDER / LANE   BIB   ATHLETE   COUNTRY   SB 2016   PB
1   2125   Karabo SIBANDA   BOT BOT   44.47   44.47
2   2171   Ali Khamis KHAMIS   BRN BRN   44.49   44.49
3   2977   Machel CEDENIO   TTO TTO   44.34   44.34
4   2540   Bralon TAPLIN   GRN GRN   44.38   44.38

5   3090   LaShawn MERRITT   USA USA   43.97   43.65
6   2539   Kirani JAMES   GRN GRN   44.02   43.74
7   2461   Matthew HUDSON-SMITH   GBR GBR   44.48   44.48
8   2910   Wayde VAN NIEKERK   RSA RSA   44.11   43.48
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 13, 2016, 06:41:49 PM
Records will be broken. Van Niekerk will go out hard in lane 8. Everyone will be chasing him. Ian Morris, say good bye to your record. Cedenio looks like he is in SUB 44 form. I think it will be a special night.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 06:44:31 PM
I am reading some of the comments on social media in response to poor performances from most of our athletes at the Olympics.

All I would say is the T&T public is used to failures from our national athletes so they have been conditioned to commend failure. Athletes struggling to get out the preliminary stages and I see people commenting with "you did great" .."you made the country proud"..

Who to blame for this weakness in our national psyche?
.


Sando prince i think that all blame should be at the Sporting Administrators and NGO's in the country and not the athletes
just my opinion, that we have failed our athletes with poor training and inflated ego's
ask your self this question, as this era is coming to an end with RT and KB etc
who is the next sprinter in Trinidad that is gonna take there place? or from Tobago??????

we have no structure and plan, at all
more like pelting mango on mango season hoping to find ah athlete by chance
perfect EG: since Serrette has taken over NAAA we have regressed in carifta consistently, no programs are in place for Nuturing the young ones, heck if ato didn't bring in Khalifa we would of been in shit street for our women sprinting going in to the future and that jus shows where we are as a Sporting nation!!

weakness in our national pride= Carnival freeness

Ah hear yuh beds but its about time we change this mentality.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 13, 2016, 06:51:54 PM
MLA is in lane 8. How that happen.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 07:00:24 PM
MLA is in lane 8. How that happen.

Steupse! I hate when dey do shit like that. Woman running 10.90 in semis and still end up in lane 8 in final  steupse
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 13, 2016, 07:15:27 PM
I am reading some of the comments on social media in response to poor performances from most of our athletes at the Olympics.

All I would say is the T&T public is used to failures from our national athletes so they have been conditioned to commend failure. Athletes struggling to get out the preliminary stages and I see people commenting with "you did great" .."you made the country proud"..

Who to blame for this weakness in our national psyche?
.

Yup you're right plus I think they need more encouragement than anything.

I feel a fourth place finish for some reason for MLA but I'm hoping she could sneak a medal. That start is the only thing holding her back. Her form has improved.


Sando prince i think that all blame should be at the Sporting Administrators and NGO's in the country and not the athletes
just my opinion, that we have failed our athletes with poor training and inflated ego's
ask your self this question, as this era is coming to an end with RT and KB etc
who is the next sprinter in Trinidad that is gonna take there place? or from Tobago??????

we have no structure and plan, at all
more like pelting mango on mango season hoping to find ah athlete by chance
perfect EG: since Serrette has taken over NAAA we have regressed in carifta consistently, no programs are in place for Nuturing the young ones, heck if ato didn't bring in Khalifa we would of been in shit street for our women sprinting going in to the future and that jus shows where we are as a Sporting nation!!

weakness in our national pride= Carnival freeness

You are right and they need encouragement right now more than anything.

Im hoping she can sneak a medal. The start is holding her back. Her form looks better which is nice to see. Maybe fourth/fifth because of the start. Hoping I'm wrong.

I love the way SAFP performs at championships she is a real champion. Et is the favourite though.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 07:25:44 PM


VIDEO: MICHELLE LEE-AHYE QUALIFIES FOR 100 METRES FINALS

https://www.facebook.com/CNC3Television/posts/10154455579232996

Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 07:30:10 PM

VIDEO: MACHEL CEDENIO WINS SEMI-FINAL AND QUALIFIES FOR 400 METRES FINAL

https://www.facebook.com/CNC3Television/posts/10154455532507996


Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 13, 2016, 07:30:48 PM


VIDEO: MICHELLE LEE-AHYE QUALIFIES FOR 100 METRES FINALS

https://www.facebook.com/CNC3Television/posts/10154455579232996



I hope she understand her start has to be a lot better than what she did here to medal in the final.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: jason23 on August 13, 2016, 07:47:44 PM
Good try ahye , but it wasn't yuh day !!
That ET hmmm she sick bad bad congrats on da Gold hmmm
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 13, 2016, 07:51:27 PM
Good try. She had a bad lane. If she was in the mix she would have ran better. Look who was beside her.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: soccerman on August 13, 2016, 07:56:51 PM
Well done Michelle, you represented the country well :beermug:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Aviator on August 13, 2016, 08:32:33 PM
Excellent performance from MLA. Wasn't as fluent as her semis, but damn good effort  :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: royal on August 13, 2016, 08:49:56 PM
congrats to Michelle... damn good job but I tell yuh something has to be done with our track and field. change something...please. No new young talent (doh count St Forth), Carifta team is a mess, future prospects seem to be going backwards instead of forwards like Parris de hurdler.Wake up NAAA or shake up. 
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: soccerman on August 13, 2016, 09:04:58 PM
How you mean Cedenio :applause:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 13, 2016, 09:10:19 PM
Cedenio probably chose lane 3. It might benefit him as he will be able to see the rest of the field. If Cedenio runs a more balanced race and does a strong closing, he might run sub 44.

Van Niekerk in lane 8 is going to be interesting. The field will chase him. Expect some PRs.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: royal on August 13, 2016, 09:12:07 PM
How you mean Cedenio :applause:

yea you correct..... but one? from de whole country? St Lucia have more dan dat. I heard de javelin youth is also very good. Hope he get de right training so he doh go backwards too.     
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: soccerman on August 13, 2016, 09:15:32 PM
How you mean Cedenio :applause:

yea you correct..... but one? from de whole country? St Lucia have more dan dat. I heard de javelin youth is also very good. Hope he get de right training so he doh go backwards too.     
Nah I agree with everything you said, I'm no track guy but from hearing from the posters it seems like our federation has no structure and lacking foresight. I'm just happy to see Cedenio when his semi final to advance for the final.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 13, 2016, 11:03:31 PM
Well done Michelle, you represented the country well :beermug:


really proud of her especially with all the injury problems over the years.  7 women run sub 11, what a race.
Semoy looked decent in her semis.  I have more confidence in the women 4x100 relay chances now.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: ffisback on August 13, 2016, 11:25:26 PM
That's the best 400 I ever seen Cedenio run hopefully he did not shoot his load if not Morris record is gone if he can go sub 44 1 of the big 3 is going to lose a medal.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 14, 2016, 08:11:45 AM
Borel, Michelle and Macel, so far, has been our bright spots. But the journey has been so disappointing. Apart from the diehards who go and support our athletes in 90% empty stadium. The rest of TT don't deserve anything. Disappointing!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 14, 2016, 01:09:14 PM
The coaching and recruitment of talent in T&T are poor.  Years now people have been saying we need hire quality coaches from outside T&T to coach and develop our talent at home here in the country (not only T&F but in other Olympic sports as well). Let the local coaches work under the foreign coaches so they can gain the quality experience which is needed. As for the recruitment, the programs in place do not reach ever corner, every street in T&T so there are talented youths who are not being discovered. And of course their needs to be more financial investment in the youth so there can be a consistent competition throughout the season at home, competition with an incentive to win, and this is where money comes in play.

So we have the track stadiums, we have the new Olympic swimming pool complex, we have a cycling venue as well but all of that will not mean much if we do not have the right minds running these sporting federations.
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 14, 2016, 01:11:58 PM
Sando, who sponsoring foreign coaches? Govt ?  Business community?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 14, 2016, 01:13:46 PM
Sando, who sponsoring foreign coaches? Govt ?  Business community?

Every year you and others ask this SAME question, my point is this is what has to be done to change direction from failure to potential success. Someone or some group has to sponsor them, I do not know who will do it, but it has to be done, if not then results will not change much, you will keep getting one or two bronze medals every Olympics and World Championships.
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 14, 2016, 02:06:38 PM
Sando, who sponsoring foreign coaches? Govt ?  Business community?

Every year you and others ask this SAME question, my point is this is what has to be done to change direction from failure to potential success. Someone or some group has to sponsor them, I do not know who will do it, but it has to be done, if not then results will not change much, you will keep getting one or two bronze medals every Olympics and World Championships.
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I eh knocking you, Breds. I know your heart and all of us on the forum are in the right place. But this has been put forward for years. Since after Mottley, Skinner, Roberts, etc. Nothing eh change. Like you, I don't know who go do it.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 14, 2016, 02:11:17 PM
Sando, who sponsoring foreign coaches? Govt ?  Business community?

Every year you and others ask this SAME question, my point is this is what has to be done to change direction from failure to potential success. Someone or some group has to sponsor them, I do not know who will do it, but it has to be done, if not then results will not change much, you will keep getting one or two bronze medals every Olympics and World Championships.
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I eh knocking you, Breds. I know your heart and all of us on the forum are in the right place. But this has been put forward for years. Since after Mottley, Skinner, Roberts, etc. Nothing eh change. Like you, I don't know who go do it.

WHAT? what has been put forward for years? Wha part of my post has been put forward for years? Iz the same old, same old in T&T. dare I say with these 'dunce' heads in charge. First they have to face the reality that our coaching at home is poor, we do not have quality coaches, they have too much pride to even come to this realisation.

What we see in T&T is ah bunch of old men stuck in 1969 ideas and still not realising their has been NO improvement.
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 14, 2016, 02:12:40 PM
Sando, who sponsoring foreign coaches? Govt ?  Business community?

Every year you and others ask this SAME question, my point is this is what has to be done to change direction from failure to potential success. Someone or some group has to sponsor them, I do not know who will do it, but it has to be done, if not then results will not change much, you will keep getting one or two bronze medals every Olympics and World Championships.
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That's right. Look at a country like Jamaica. The government does not have a lot of dollars to allocate to the JAAA. The JAAA knew what they were getting wasn't enough. So they reached out to the private sector in Jamaica and established agreements with companies like Grace. This was integral to accessing resources to grow track in Jamaica. Eventually PUMA came calling. And so the story goes.

Another thing to think about is taking care of the athletes. The top two racing clubs in Jamaica HAVE MONEY. Even if you're an average athlete and you run with any of them, you will not have to choose between looking for work or going to train. Those two clubs take care of their athletes. So the athletes dont need to rely on govt funding. In TT the athletes have to rely on govt funding, because the track clubs are essentially broke. So it's govt funding or your out on your own.

For track to grow in TT, the various actors need to be less dependant upon govt funding. The NAAA needs to forge long lasting partnerships with the private sector. The clubs need to identify good athletes from a young age and see them as an investment. That means taking care of them. Even a free meal is a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 14, 2016, 03:09:16 PM

Trinidad and Tobago wishes Machel Cedenio all the best in Men's 400m Final tonight! 🇹🇹

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Trinbagolife/2056152541276094/?notif_t=like&notif_id=1471208669078032
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Bitter on August 14, 2016, 05:54:55 PM
NBC working hard to rehabilitate Gatlin's image.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 14, 2016, 07:05:30 PM
That South African fellah. Hard luck Machel, you did your best.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 14, 2016, 07:06:37 PM
Van Niekirk WR 43.03   ::) ::)
Cedenio 4th in TTO NR 44.01   :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Bitter on August 14, 2016, 07:07:48 PM
Wow.
That 400 WR was ridiculous. And he look like he wasn't really running that hard.

I thought Cedenio had a chance, but so it does go.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 14, 2016, 07:09:03 PM
Wow.
That 400 WR was ridiculous. And he look like he wasn't really running that hard.

I thought Cedenio had a chance, but so it does go.

When you run your best you cannot ask for more, Cedenio is a boss and younger than all 3 medallists
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Texastrini on August 14, 2016, 07:12:21 PM
That was a breast of a race, no shame in that 4th place.  Morris record finally gone.  Well done Machel. Sub 43 next.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: ribbit on August 14, 2016, 07:15:38 PM
Bahrain get rea shameless importing two Jamaicans so.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 14, 2016, 07:16:08 PM
Expect Machel to easily break sub 44 next year and be on the medal podium in the World Champs

Watch d ride  :beermug:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Aviator on August 14, 2016, 07:16:52 PM
Nothing but pure applause for Machel, that was one hell of a run. Unfortunately he came up in the time of giants.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: soccerman on August 14, 2016, 07:19:35 PM
Well done Cedenio, very good effort!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 14, 2016, 07:22:52 PM
Expect Machel to easily break sub 44 next year and be on the medal podium in the World Champs

Watch d ride  :beermug:

If he runs in altitude in La Chau-de-Fonds or Sestriere this year, that sub-44 will happen.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Bitter on August 14, 2016, 07:28:30 PM
Cutass!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: soccerman on August 14, 2016, 07:29:09 PM
Usain facking Bolt!!!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 14, 2016, 07:39:49 PM
Usain facking Bolt!!!

Pretty much. Legend.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 14, 2016, 07:44:47 PM
NBC working hard to rehabilitate Gatlin's image.

Capital steups @ dem.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 14, 2016, 07:53:06 PM
Sando, who sponsoring foreign coaches? Govt ?  Business community?

Every year you and others ask this SAME question, my point is this is what has to be done to change direction from failure to potential success. Someone or some group has to sponsor them, I do not know who will do it, but it has to be done, if not then results will not change much, you will keep getting one or two bronze medals every Olympics and World Championships.
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I eh knocking you, Breds. I know your heart and all of us on the forum are in the right place. But this has been put forward for years. Since after Mottley, Skinner, Roberts, etc. Nothing eh change. Like you, I don't know who go do it.

WHAT? what has been put forward for years? Wha part of my post has been put forward for years? Iz the same old, same old in T&T. dare I say with these 'dunce' heads in charge. First they have to face the reality that our coaching at home is poor, we do not have quality coaches, they have too much pride to even come to this realisation.

What we see in T&T is ah bunch of old men stuck in 1969 ideas and still not realising their has been NO improvement.
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Breds, I was saying guys like Jesse Noel, Rawle Raphael of the past have all put forward plans for athletic success. But all have come to little success. We have always depend on athletes leaving home for betterment. Jehue and Keeshond are the exception to the rule. I don't know what it will take to get the business community to come aboard. I honestly feel they don't have any interest. T&F is not their priority.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 14, 2016, 08:34:41 PM
Perspective:
Cedenio's NR 0f 44.01 would have medalled in every other Olympic Games 400m final in history.

In many it would have garnered gold or silver, and in all except this one, at least bronze.

He moved from 46th (44.34) to 15th fastest 400m performer ever.

Only Jeremy Wariner (44.00); Larry James (43.97); Kirani James (43.94); and Steve Lewis (43.87) have run faster before turning 21 (Cedenio will be 21 in September) - all are Olympic champions except Larry James an Olympic silver medallist. Nice company and great signs for his future.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 14, 2016, 10:07:03 PM
Perspective:
Cedenio's NR 0f 44.01 would have medalled in every other Olympic Games 400m final in history.

In many it would have garnered gold or silver, and in all except this one, at least bronze.

He moved from 46th (44.34) to 15th fastest 400m performer ever.

Only Jeremy Wariner (44.00); Larry James (43.97); Kirani James (43.94); and Steve Lewis (43.87) have run faster before turning 21 (Cedenio will be 21 in September) - all are Olympic champions except Larry James an Olympic silver medallist. Nice company and great signs for his future.

Good stuff! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 14, 2016, 10:47:55 PM
Perspective:
Cedenio's NR 0f 44.01 would have medalled in every other Olympic Games 400m final in history.

In many it would have garnered gold or silver, and in all except this one, at least bronze.

He moved from 46th (44.34) to 15th fastest 400m performer ever.

Only Jeremy Wariner (44.00); Larry James (43.97); Kirani James (43.94); and Steve Lewis (43.87) have run faster before turning 21 (Cedenio will be 21 in September) - all are Olympic champions except Larry James an Olympic silver medallist. Nice company and great signs for his future.

Good perspective.  I am really proud of him.  He chased after 3 giants of the 400m. 

Well done Machel.  Keep it up.  You are heading in the right direction.

As for WVN, biggest talent in track and field since Bolt.  This guy is pure greatness.  He ran 43.03 and looks like he can go a lot faster.  The amazing thing is he did that in lane 8.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: ffisback on August 15, 2016, 01:20:28 AM
If Cedenio starts running the 200's he can challenge both L Merritt and K James.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 15, 2016, 03:29:34 AM
If Cedenio starts running the 200's he can challenge both L Merritt and K James.

So why yuh leave Wayde van Niekerk name out of it, yuh feel he bionic?  8)
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 15, 2016, 08:22:14 AM
Cedenio will be a future 400m champion.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 15, 2016, 08:23:01 AM
NBC working hard to rehabilitate Gatlin's image.

Capital steups @ dem.

Ent, they can rehab all the silver medals in the world.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 15, 2016, 08:29:36 AM
If Cedenio starts running the 200's he can challenge both L Merritt and K James.

So why yuh leave Wayde van Niekerk name out of it, yuh feel he bionic?  8)

He may well be except for the last 100m.
Here are unofficial 100m splits from an internet article today - looks likely after reviewing the video
100m - 10.7
200m - 9.8 (20.5)
300m - 10.5 (31.0) - Michael Johnson (31.66)
400m - 12.0 (43.03) - Michael Johnson (11.5)
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 15, 2016, 09:02:12 AM
Jehue Gordon finshed last in his heat, He has declined very badly since winning World Champs three years ago.
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 15, 2016, 09:04:58 AM

Steupse terrible Jehue that was very terrible and this was only the heats
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 15, 2016, 09:14:57 AM
Jehue Gordon finshed last in his heat, He has declined very badly since winning World Champs three years ago.
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In his defense, the newspapers mentioned that he had abdominal surgery last year and is still on the road to recovery. It MUST be very tough coming back especially in a race like the 400m hurdles where abdominal strength is key.

That being said, why was he selected?
He has not broken 50 this year.
He obviously was not selected to gain experience.
Did they think he would suddenly catch form in Rio?

If he is still sponsored by Adidas, he should have sat out to run after the OG in Europe, in an attempt to regain some confidence ahead of next year's season and WC. If he has lost his sponsorship (though I'm sure he's still getting TT elite funding), then he might have hoped to reclaim something in Rio to gain invitations to some of the bigger meets in Europe later this season.

As it stands he has not done much for his confidence, has not excited any meet promoters, and has only fueled disappointment in the impatient, knowledge-lacking TTO public (imagine some steupsing because Cedenio didn't medal)
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 15, 2016, 09:21:31 AM
Jehue Gordon finshed last in his heat, He has declined very badly since winning World Champs three years ago.
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In his defense, the newspapers mentioned that he had abdominal surgery last year and is still on the road to recovery. It MUST be very tough coming back especially in a race like the 400m hurdles where abdominal strength is key.

That being said, why was he selected?
He has not broken 50 this year.
He obviously was not selected to gain experience.
Did they think he would suddenly catch form in Rio?

If he is still sponsored by Adidas, he should have sat out to run after the OG in Europe, in an attempt to regain some confidence ahead of next year's season and WC. If he has lost his sponsorship (though I'm sure he's still getting TT elite funding), then he might have hoped to reclaim something in Rio to gain invitations to some of the bigger meets in Europe later this season.

As it stands he has not done much for his confidence, has not excited any meet promoters, and has only fueled disappointment in the impatient, knowledge-lacking TTO public (imagine some steupsing because Cedenio didn't medal)

Ah hear everything yuh saying, but if he is not 100% then he should not compete. Like you said why was he selected.

If you going to compete then you cannot make excuses after..

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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 15, 2016, 10:30:13 AM
Coming off any injury you have to run yourself back to 100%; you cannot train yourself to 100% as the best workouts do not equate to actual competition. But as I assume we agree, that process should not include the OG unless you are from a B standard country like Nauru or Tuvalu in the South Pacific.

Some may argue that it is prudent to carry a 400m hurdler in case of a need in the 4x400m qualifier. However 400m hurdlers typically split about 3-3.5 secs faster than their hurdling times. In his current state of conditioning that would put Jehue in 46.5 to 47 sec relay leg shape which will both be useless and disastrous to the relay team's chances. Decades ago there used to be heats, semis and finals for the 4x400m; these days it's a straight, drag race semi-finals with a lot of talent parity, so you can't chance it with a slow leg.

At least he ran a SB 49.98 today, and it seems like whatever blight he caught spread around to others:
Nicholas Bett (KEN) - DQ
Jeffery Gibson (BAH) - 52.77
Michael Tinsley (US) - 50.18
Kareem Hussein (SUI) - 49.80
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: RC on August 15, 2016, 11:36:23 AM
He was injured last year and should not have gone to the world champs. Maybe he has not fully recovered from his surgery. Both he and his coach should have realised he was in no shape to compete at the olympics. He is running more than 1.5 sec slower than he did as a 17 year old. this must have been evident in training.    I hope his career does not go the way of another talented ex world junior champ
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 15, 2016, 03:48:00 PM
Michelle won her heat 22.50s

Semoy 2nd and through to the semi finals with a 22.78s
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 15, 2016, 04:44:03 PM
Niceness. Today, today, tomorrow, tomorrow, Michelle will deliver.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 15, 2016, 06:41:33 PM
Gatlin probably the only American w/o Jamaican roots who can recite the JA anthem word for word
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 15, 2016, 06:50:43 PM
Years now I watching Mikel Thomas run 100 hurdles for T&T and he could never get past the first round at International events.
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Bitter on August 15, 2016, 08:12:20 PM
Hard Luck dey Alison Felix.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Bitter on August 15, 2016, 08:17:58 PM
Unlike the diving pool, the track blue, so she figure she would dive in.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Cocorite on August 15, 2016, 08:36:48 PM
Gatlin probably the only American w/o Jamaican roots who can recite the JA anthem word for word

Ha Ha Ha  ;D allyuh good oui.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 15, 2016, 08:49:32 PM

We had a few athletes who competed today, why no commentary on them. I understand the low expectations  :D
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 15, 2016, 09:05:41 PM
Gatlin probably the only American w/o Jamaican roots who can recite the JA anthem word for word

Ha Ha Ha  ;D allyuh good oui.

 :) 

All he could do was walk around with a smug expression. Would have been solid if he had manned up and congratulated Bolt. If he did, I did not see it.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 15, 2016, 09:21:11 PM

We had a few athletes who competed today, why no commentary on them. I understand the low expectations  :D

I have not seen the results. Who win ?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 15, 2016, 09:27:20 PM
Years now I watching Mikel Thomas run 100 hurdles for T&T and he could never get past the first round at International events.
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He does have a herky-jerky/ high jump over each hurdle style; don't know how he runs the times he does.

He has however advanced a few times out of the heats:
2016 World Indoor Championships (Portland) - 7th in his semi-finals
2013 World Outdoor Championships (Moscow) - 4th in his semi-finals
2008 Olympic Games (Beijing) - 6th in his quarter-finals
In lesser competition he won gold in the 2015 U-23 NACAC (north America, Central America and Caribbean) Games
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 15, 2016, 09:33:54 PM

We had a few athletes who competed today, why no commentary on them. I understand the low expectations  :D

I have not seen the results. Who win ?

Only noteworthy news were MLA winning her heat in commanding fashion in 22.50, Semoy Hackett advancing as well, and Bellville advancing to the 400m hurdles semis as one of the faster losers.

It's buffet style so use your mouse and click around iaaf.org/results:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 15, 2016, 11:40:10 PM
Morris sees relay gold after Cedenio’s record run

WALTER ALIBEY

Former national quarter-miler Ian Morris believes the time for an Olympic Gold medal in the 4x400 metre relays for T&T is now.

“This is our time to win an Olympic Gold medal so take it. Please do not let this opportunity go to waste, I am begging you runners,” Morris pleaded yesterday during an interview with the Trinidad Guardian.


Cedenio, a past student of Presentation College, San fernando, produced an explosive burst of speed while challeneging for the gold medal from Lane 3 in the men’s 400 metres finals at the Olympic Stadium in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil on Sunday night. The 20-year-old featuring in the fastest One-lap race in history, eclipsed the previous national 400 metres record (44.21) set by Ian Morris at the semi-final stage at the Barcelona Olympics in 1992, when he raced to the finish-line in 44.01 but had to settle for fourth place.

The gold medals was won by South African Wayde Van Niekerk, who ran from lane 8 in a world record time of 43.03 with Grenadian Kirani James second in 43.76  and American Lashawn Merrit third in 43.85.

Befor the race Cedenio had said: “I will need to go below the national record because there are three men with sub 44 times, and they are running fast.”

In his analysis, Morris explained the United States team will be dependent on Lashawn Merrit who will be required to perform in the 200 metres, which will place the US team under tremendous pressure, while other main contenders like Bahamas are not at full strength presently.

The former footballer, who made athletics his career for two decades while contesting the 200, 400 and 800 metres events, believes the T&T team is equipped with quarter-milers who are capable of 44-seconds performances at any given time.

“We have Machel Cedenio who is an outstanding athlete along with Jarrin Solomon, Renny Quow, Deon Lendore and of course Lalonde Gordon, all of whom can produce at the 400 metres, so our chance is greater than any other in the world right now,” Morris explained.

Morris who produced a sensational run in the 400 metres final at the 1992 Barcelona Olympic Games that saw him finish fourth in a new national record time of 44.25 seconds, is hoping that all the quarter-milers will feed positively off Cedenio who, apart from finishing fourth in the Olympic 400 metre final on Sunday night, also broke Morris’s 24-year old national record of 44.21 seconds set in the semi-finals rounds in Barcelona, with a new benchmark of 44.01.

The 4x 400 metre relays will be the last event on the calendar of events at the Olympics and it produces the country’s only chance of at a gold medal in that event, Morris said.

He lashed out at the performances of some athletes, saying they seem to be running for themselves and not the country.

According to Morris, who hails from Siparia: “A number of runners, with the exception of Cedenio, Semoy Hackett, Gordon and Michelle Lee Ahye, have been going through the motions at the Olympics.

These are runners who have benefitted from the Elite Athletes Funding towards their preparations, and yet, they look anything like they want to win. I am not talking about winning medals only, but we must see a greater effort from them. We need to see a greater effort from our athletes.”
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2016, 04:29:39 AM
Bahrain get rea shameless importing two Jamaicans so.

Was thinking: what punishment awaits for false starting?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 16, 2016, 06:35:22 AM

We had a few athletes who competed today, why no commentary on them. I understand the low expectations  :D

I have not seen the results. Who win ?

 :D you really asking who win?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 16, 2016, 09:34:05 AM
Im glad to see MLA running the 200m so comfortably I know that even in the Carifta days she did not like the 200. My only hope is that see finishes all of this healthy and takes a rest after the games.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: RC on August 16, 2016, 10:11:13 AM
Good run from Sorillo 20.27 to advance as a fast loser
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 16, 2016, 10:11:45 AM
Perspective:
Cedenio's NR 0f 44.01 would have medalled in every other Olympic Games 400m final in history.

In many it would have garnered gold or silver, and in all except this one, at least bronze.

He moved from 46th (44.34) to 15th fastest 400m performer ever.

Only Jeremy Wariner (44.00); Larry James (43.97); Kirani James (43.94); and Steve Lewis (43.87) have run faster before turning 21 (Cedenio will be 21 in September) - all are Olympic champions except Larry James an Olympic silver medallist. Nice company and great signs for his future.

I see the goodly TT journalist reads our posts, glad to help:


MAJOR PLAYER
Record-breaking Cedenio climbing fast
Published on Aug 15, 2016, 11:00 pm AST
By Kwame Laurence

BEST-EVER T&T 400m RUNNER: Trinidad and Tobago's Machel Cedenio reacts after competing in the Men's 400 metres Semifinal at the Olympic Stadium in Rio de Janeiro on Saturday.

Machel Cedenio made a strong statement on Sunday night at the Joao Havelange Olympic Stadium, here in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
The 20-year-old finished fourth in the Olympic Games men's 400 metres final, but more importantly, announced himself as a major player in what is arguably the greatest era in the one-lap event.

“It feels great,” Cedenio declared during an Express interview after the championship race. “I didn't get a medal but I still leave here with a personal best, a national record. That goes to show that I went out there and gave it my all. It just wasn't enough to be on the podium.”

Cedenio's 44.01 seconds clocking chopped a full two-tenths of a second off the previous Trinidad and Tobago record of 44.21, established by Ian Morris in the semifinal round at the 1992 Barcelona Olympics. Finally, after 24 years, a new name appears in the books.
Cedenio is not likely to surrender his T&T 400m standard for a long time. The clocking, though, seems certain to change.

“I'm still 20. I haven't reached the peak in my career. I can go faster. My body feels good right now. Me and my coach will go back to the drawing board, get stronger in certain areas, probably do more speed. We have a lot of things we need to fix, with my body still maturing. So yeah, I have confident I'll go faster than 44.01.”

The clocking earned Cedenio 15th spot on the all-time world performance list, and would have been fast enough for a medal at any other Olympic Games. The Rio 2016 final, however, featured three Olympic champions: 2008 gold medallist LaShawn Merritt of the United States; his Grenadian successor Kirani James; and the champion in waiting, South Africa's Wayde van Niekerk.

It is now history that van Niekerk, running blind in the difficult lane eight, was unchallenged for the gold medal. He successfully raced against the clock, stopping it at 43.03 seconds to erase American Michael Johnson's 17-year-old world record from the books.

“I don't regret being in this era,” said Cedenio. “Being a part of it is really something special to me. This goes to show that anything can happen. Michael Johnson's record, 43.18, was there and a lot of guys were saying it's there forever, nobody is going to break it. But van Niekerk broke it!”

James clocked 43.76 seconds for silver, while bronze went to Merritt in 43.85. Cedenio battled with his heart and soul in an effort to catch the pair. Never was the phrase “leaving it all out on the track” more applicable. Absolutely spent, Cedenio could not get to his feet after the race and was taken off the track in a wheelchair.

“My body went to a place it never went before. My body was in shock. I couldn't feel anything in my legs, so they chaired me off to the medic. I got oxygen there, and they took care of me.”

Cedenio said he's confident the T&T medical team will have him ready to spearhead the country's medal challenge in Saturday's 4x400m final.

“They're exceptional. They'll advise me accordingly to do the right stuff. I'll handle business. There are three other guys depending on me right now to make the country happy, so I'm going to go back to rehab and make sure I recover, make sure I get my massage, make sure I get my ice, and get ready for the 4x4.

“We have a great group of quartermilers, probably the best era Trinidad and Tobago has ever seen. We're definitely in medal position right now.”
Cedenio is officially the best-ever T&T 400m runner, and potentially a global great as well. Only three quartermilers in history have run faster than Cedenio did on Sunday, at a younger age: James and American Steve Lewis at 19; and another American, Jeremy Wariner at 20 years, six months. Cedenio is 20 years, 11 months.

James, Lewis and Wariner are all former Olympic champions. Cedenio is in pole position to join them. But before the 2020 Tokyo Games, the 2014 world junior champion must negotiate two IAAF World Championship meets, starting with the 2017 edition in London, England.

“I'll go for a sub-44 time at World Champs next year. These are the meets where you want to run your best. I'm going to give it my all. I know I can go faster. I still have work to put in, so I'm hoping for a sub-43. Sorry, a sub-44.”

A Freudian slip, perhaps? With van Niekerk taking the event ever so close to uncharted territory, Cedenio might very well have to re-think his goals as he challenges for global one-lap supremacy in the years ahead.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 16, 2016, 10:16:30 AM
Good run from Sorillo 20.27 to advance as a fast loser

Boy, it look as though only the men from Siparia bringing there A game this rounds.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: vb on August 16, 2016, 10:30:50 AM
Perspective:
Cedenio's NR 0f 44.01 would have medalled in every other Olympic Games 400m final in history.

In many it would have garnered gold or silver, and in all except this one, at least bronze.

He moved from 46th (44.34) to 15th fastest 400m performer ever.

Only Jeremy Wariner (44.00); Larry James (43.97); Kirani James (43.94); and Steve Lewis (43.87) have run faster before turning 21 (Cedenio will be 21 in September) - all are Olympic champions except Larry James an Olympic silver medallist. Nice company and great signs for his future.

I see the goodly TT journalist reads our posts, glad to help:


MAJOR PLAYER
Record-breaking Cedenio climbing fast
Published on Aug 15, 2016, 11:00 pm AST
By Kwame Laurence

BEST-EVER T&T 400m RUNNER: Trinidad and Tobago's Machel Cedenio reacts after competing in the Men's 400 metres Semifinal at the Olympic Stadium in Rio de Janeiro on Saturday.

Machel Cedenio made a strong statement on Sunday night at the Joao Havelange Olympic Stadium, here in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
The 20-year-old finished fourth in the Olympic Games men's 400 metres final, but more importantly, announced himself as a major player in what is arguably the greatest era in the one-lap event.

“It feels great,” Cedenio declared during an Express interview after the championship race. “I didn't get a medal but I still leave here with a personal best, a national record. That goes to show that I went out there and gave it my all. It just wasn't enough to be on the podium.”

Cedenio's 44.01 seconds clocking chopped a full two-tenths of a second off the previous Trinidad and Tobago record of 44.21, established by Ian Morris in the semifinal round at the 1992 Barcelona Olympics. Finally, after 24 years, a new name appears in the books.
Cedenio is not likely to surrender his T&T 400m standard for a long time. The clocking, though, seems certain to change.

“I'm still 20. I haven't reached the peak in my career. I can go faster. My body feels good right now. Me and my coach will go back to the drawing board, get stronger in certain areas, probably do more speed. We have a lot of things we need to fix, with my body still maturing. So yeah, I have confident I'll go faster than 44.01.”

The clocking earned Cedenio 15th spot on the all-time world performance list, and would have been fast enough for a medal at any other Olympic Games. The Rio 2016 final, however, featured three Olympic champions: 2008 gold medallist LaShawn Merritt of the United States; his Grenadian successor Kirani James; and the champion in waiting, South Africa's Wayde van Niekerk.

It is now history that van Niekerk, running blind in the difficult lane eight, was unchallenged for the gold medal. He successfully raced against the clock, stopping it at 43.03 seconds to erase American Michael Johnson's 17-year-old world record from the books.

“I don't regret being in this era,” said Cedenio. “Being a part of it is really something special to me. This goes to show that anything can happen. Michael Johnson's record, 43.18, was there and a lot of guys were saying it's there forever, nobody is going to break it. But van Niekerk broke it!”

James clocked 43.76 seconds for silver, while bronze went to Merritt in 43.85. Cedenio battled with his heart and soul in an effort to catch the pair. Never was the phrase “leaving it all out on the track” more applicable. Absolutely spent, Cedenio could not get to his feet after the race and was taken off the track in a wheelchair.

“My body went to a place it never went before. My body was in shock. I couldn't feel anything in my legs, so they chaired me off to the medic. I got oxygen there, and they took care of me.”

Cedenio said he's confident the T&T medical team will have him ready to spearhead the country's medal challenge in Saturday's 4x400m final.

“They're exceptional. They'll advise me accordingly to do the right stuff. I'll handle business. There are three other guys depending on me right now to make the country happy, so I'm going to go back to rehab and make sure I recover, make sure I get my massage, make sure I get my ice, and get ready for the 4x4.

“We have a great group of quartermilers, probably the best era Trinidad and Tobago has ever seen. We're definitely in medal position right now.”
Cedenio is officially the best-ever T&T 400m runner, and potentially a global great as well. Only three quartermilers in history have run faster than Cedenio did on Sunday, at a younger age: James and American Steve Lewis at 19; and another American, Jeremy Wariner at 20 years, six months. Cedenio is 20 years, 11 months.

James, Lewis and Wariner are all former Olympic champions. Cedenio is in pole position to join them. But before the 2020 Tokyo Games, the 2014 world junior champion must negotiate two IAAF World Championship meets, starting with the 2017 edition in London, England.

“I'll go for a sub-44 time at World Champs next year. These are the meets where you want to run your best. I'm going to give it my all. I know I can go faster. I still have work to put in, so I'm hoping for a sub-43. Sorry, a sub-44.”

A Freudian slip, perhaps? With van Niekerk taking the event ever so close to uncharted territory, Cedenio might very well have to re-think his goals as he challenges for global one-lap supremacy in the years ahead.

Kwame Laurence is quite knowledgable. I´ve spoken track with him on a number of occassions. I don´t think he needs this Forum as a reference but you never know.  ;)
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 16, 2016, 10:33:48 AM
So you see no coincidence that the exact set of disparate points happen to all end up in his one article the day after it was posted?

Don't worry I 'm not asking for commission. As I said glad to help
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: vb on August 16, 2016, 11:03:34 AM
So you see no coincidence that the exact set of disparate points happen to all end up in his one article the day after it was posted?

Don't worry I 'm not asking for commission. As I said glad to help

Perhaps I am simply more knowledgable on this topic.

I did an interview with Ian Morris years ago. I happened to mention the historical perspective of his 1992 time in relation to the Olympics and Gold medals. Kwame and I had practically the same paragraph. Can´t remember who wrote first but we were stating facts and thus our paragraph was basically the same. I know neither of us copied from the other.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 16, 2016, 11:11:05 AM
Good run from Sorillo 20.27 to advance as a fast loser

So I hope that run left a lot remaining in his tank, because I do not know how fit and ready he is to run close to 20.10. He will need to run close to that time in the semis to make final
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 16, 2016, 11:24:08 AM
All the Anti-American track fans (mostly Jamaicans) jump for joy on social media after Miller dives head first like a swimmer to win. They do not care how she did it, they just care America did not win. You have to just shake your head at them
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 16, 2016, 11:27:52 AM
I did not see Sorillo race, but I heard the announcer said that Sorrillo slowed up and was passed on the line. And he might regret this because of lane position in the semis.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 16, 2016, 11:37:19 AM
So you see no coincidence that the exact set of disparate points happen to all end up in his one article the day after it was posted?

Don't worry I 'm not asking for commission. As I said glad to help

Perhaps I am simply more knowledgable on this topic.

I did an interview with Ian Morris years ago. I happened to mention the historical perspective of his 1992 time in relation to the Olympics and Gold medals. Kwame and I had practically the same paragraph. Can´t remember who wrote first but we were stating facts and thus our paragraph was basically the same. I know neither of us copied from the other.

I have some hilltop land to sell you in Cocal...steups
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2016, 12:12:41 PM
Video of the women's 1/4 mile? Only seeing stills and hearing description when I search.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2016, 12:26:25 PM
Records will be broken. Van Niekerk will go out hard in lane 8. Everyone will be chasing him. Ian Morris, say good bye to your record. Cedenio looks like he is in SUB 44 form. I think it will be a special night.

 :beermug:

Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2016, 12:37:07 PM
So you see no coincidence that the exact set of disparate points happen to all end up in his one article the day after it was posted?

Don't worry I 'm not asking for commission. As I said glad to help

Perhaps I am simply more knowledgable on this topic.

I did an interview with Ian Morris years ago. I happened to mention the historical perspective of his 1992 time in relation to the Olympics and Gold medals. Kwame and I had practically the same paragraph. Can´t remember who wrote first but we were stating facts and thus our paragraph was basically the same. I know neither of us copied from the other.

I have some hilltop land to sell you in Cocal...steups

There's also a comment (parallel to that made by another poster) that you did not highlight in bold (contained in KL's article)... that tends to suggest more than an ordinary or reasonable coincidence. Won't be the first time, the media has "resourced" forum comments.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: weary1969 on August 16, 2016, 01:12:22 PM
Gatlin probably the only American w/o Jamaican roots who can recite the JA anthem word for word

Ha Ha Ha  ;D allyuh good oui.

ENT for the memorable quote category
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: weary1969 on August 16, 2016, 01:14:40 PM
NBC working hard to rehabilitate Gatlin's image.

Capital steups @ dem.

Ent, they can rehab all the silver medals in the world.

I saw a meme which said he have enough silver to betray Christ. They go kill oui with these memes.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 16, 2016, 01:17:31 PM
Right now Gatlin Silver medal is more than the entire T&T team in medals, this is why I do not get carried away with this type of stupid talk by Trinis on social media. Their own country is desperate for medals right now but playing d ass with Gatlin who has won more for his country than most of our athletes. Steupse we loose focus on what is more important.
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: weary1969 on August 16, 2016, 01:21:26 PM
Records will be broken. Van Niekerk will go out hard in lane 8. Everyone will be chasing him. Ian Morris, say good bye to your record. Cedenio looks like he is in SUB 44 form. I think it will be a special night.

Memorable quote right there
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 16, 2016, 02:24:29 PM
Records will be broken. Van Niekerk will go out hard in lane 8. Everyone will be chasing him. Ian Morris, say good bye to your record. Cedenio looks like he is in SUB 44 form. I think it will be a special night.

Memorable quote right there

Real recognize real my brother..

All its going to take is a good lane to make history. A much needed one from where we stand. Thats why I am going to say the same thing. Records will be broken. And history will be made. If you can read between the lines, you know what I am expecting to see tonight.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2016, 03:46:25 PM
Records will be broken. Van Niekerk will go out hard in lane 8. Everyone will be chasing him. Ian Morris, say good bye to your record. Cedenio looks like he is in SUB 44 form. I think it will be a special night.

Memorable quote right there

Real recognize real my brother..

All its going to take is a good lane to make history. A much needed one from where we stand. Thats why I am going to say the same thing. Records will be broken. And history will be made. If you can read between the lines, you know what I am expecting to see tonight.

Interesting predictions.  I have one too: weary eh go agree with everything yuh say there. 
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2016, 05:48:35 PM
Hard luck dey, Haiti! Crashed into and wrapped himself in the first hurdle.  :cursing:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 16, 2016, 06:35:40 PM
I wonder if two trini's go make the 200m final. No VCB. Plus no SAFP. I think it's possible.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 16, 2016, 06:50:03 PM
Poor Jehue. Jehue has the fastest 400mh time in the last 3 years. He could have easily added a gold medal to his cabinet.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 16, 2016, 07:28:25 PM
NR For MLA. Came 2nd behind Bowie. Hopefully she gets a good lane.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 16, 2016, 07:31:18 PM
Poor Jehue. Jehue has the fastest 400mh time in the last 3 years. He could have easily added a gold medal to his cabinet.

I must have missed the first 200 m race. I don't see Semoy in the final.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Dinner Mints on August 16, 2016, 07:33:44 PM
Poor Jehue. Jehue has the fastest 400mh time in the last 3 years. He could have easily added a gold medal to his cabinet.

I must have missed the first 200 m race. I don't see Semoy in the final.
Came 6th. Didn't make it.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2016, 07:38:44 PM
Brilliant 1500m women's final. Hassan's strategy geh salt once Dibaba shifted a gear.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 16, 2016, 07:41:26 PM
Poor Jehue. Jehue has the fastest 400mh time in the last 3 years. He could have easily added a gold medal to his cabinet.

I must have missed the first 200 m race. I don't see Semoy in the final.
Came 6th. Didn't make it.

I know. The strength of the 400mh field is not as strong as 2012. It must be hurting Jehue.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Bitter on August 16, 2016, 07:53:32 PM
tIt had any hurdles The french fella with the long hair didn't knock down?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: boss on August 16, 2016, 07:55:57 PM
NR For MLA. Came 2nd behind Bowie. Hopefully she gets a good lane.

She'll be in Lane 7 tomorrow  :-\
https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/olympic-games/the-xxxi-olympic-games-5771/results/women/200-metres/final/startlist#resultheader
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 16, 2016, 07:59:07 PM
tIt had any hurdles The french fella with the long hair didn't knock down?

 :rotfl:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 16, 2016, 08:05:08 PM
NR For MLA. Came 2nd behind Bowie. Hopefully she gets a good lane.

She'll be in Lane 7 tomorrow  :-\
https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/olympic-games/the-xxxi-olympic-games-5771/results/women/200-metres/final/startlist#resultheader
NR For MLA. Came 2nd behind Bowie. Hopefully she gets a good lane.

She'll be in Lane 7 tomorrow  :-\
https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/olympic-games/the-xxxi-olympic-games-5771/results/women/200-metres/final/startlist#resultheader

Lalova is beside her in lane 8. Was hoping MLA got a faster person to chase. Race strategy for MLA, get in front of Lalova and leave her in the dust.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Aviator on August 16, 2016, 08:30:12 PM
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All the Anti-American track fans (mostly Jamaicans) jump for joy on social media after Miller dives head first like a swimmer to win. They do not care how she did it, they just care America did not win. You have to just shake your head at them
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All the Anti-American track fans (mostly Jamaicans) jump for joy on social media after Miller dives head first like a swimmer to win. They do not care how she did it, they just care America did not win. You have to just shake your head at them
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[/quote] The girl did not dive, she leaned for the line and her legs gave out. She gave maximum effort and literally had nothing left. She wasn't flat on the track 10+minutes after the race by luck. Don't buy into the American hype trying to belittle the girl 's win. The name of the game is to cross the line first and that's what she did. In 2008 when David Neville actually dived to get his bronze, he was said to give a herculean effort. So de Yankees can go F$@k themselves!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 16, 2016, 08:37:18 PM
Michelle, this is it girl.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Aviator on August 16, 2016, 09:08:41 PM
I think Michelle is in a similar position to Machel. 3 giants ahead of her, but if any slip, she will be able to pounce. She is the best of the rest IMO. So 4th place is what I expect, but hoping for a medal!!

To add to my post, I would think lane 7 is good for her. Firstly she's not the best curve runner out there, so the gentler the curve, the better. Secondly her technique isn't suited to high pressure situations and being in the middle of the track will be a dog fight coming down the straight. She can run free out there in lane 7.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: soccerman on August 16, 2016, 09:20:49 PM
tIt had any hurdles The french fella with the long hair didn't knock down?

 :rotfl:
:rotfl: I noticed that too
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 16, 2016, 10:24:11 PM
I think Michelle is in a similar position to Machel. 3 giants ahead of her, but if any slip, she will be able to pounce. She is the best of the rest IMO. So 4th place is what I expect, but hoping for a medal!!

To add to my post, I would think lane 7 is good for her. Firstly she's not the best curve runner out there, so the gentler the curve, the better. Secondly her technique isn't suited to high pressure situations and being in the middle of the track will be a dog fight coming down the straight. She can run free out there in lane 7.

Spot on again Ave! I'm so proud of her, I know I always knock her technique because I believe she can be the best and have been saying it for years. That aside she has given her all and has made two Olympic sprint finals, she has avoided injury this season also and has just done the nation proud. I know the big three may be out of her reach but this is a stepping stone for her to build on. The ease that she ran that 22.50 in the heats tells me she can run 21.x maybe not tomorrow but definitely in the future.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 17, 2016, 06:07:38 AM
I think Michelle is in a similar position to Machel. 3 giants ahead of her, but if any slip, she will be able to pounce. She is the best of the rest IMO. So 4th place is what I expect, but hoping for a medal!!

To add to my post, I would think lane 7 is good for her. Firstly she's not the best curve runner out there, so the gentler the curve, the better. Secondly her technique isn't suited to high pressure situations and being in the middle of the track will be a dog fight coming down the straight. She can run free out there in lane 7.

Spot on again Ave! I'm so proud of her, I know I always knock her technique because I believe she can be the best and have been saying it for years. That aside she has given her all and has made two Olympic sprint finals, she has avoided injury this season also and has just done the nation proud. I know the big three may be out of her reach but this is a stepping stone for her to build on. The ease that she ran that 22.50 in the heats tells me she can run 21.x maybe not tomorrow but definitely in the future.

Even if she does not medal, she made history. If memory serves, she is the only female from TT to feature in a 100m and 200m olympic final. Ato was the last TT athlete. So MLA is on the path to something special.

Interesting analysis Aviator. I never looked at MLA being in lane 7 in the same light. But what we seen with the outside lanes in this Olympics, if you're in lane 7 or 8, it's about going out hard and letting the field chase you. Shaunae Miller won gold by doing so in lane 7. Van Niekerk won gold and broke the WR by doing the same thing. So we will see if MLA has a similar race plan.

I expect another PR and NR from her tonight. And if one of the big 3 mess up, we can be in for a treat.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: vb on August 17, 2016, 08:45:19 AM
Can anyone recommend some online links for the Olympics. I usually use Batman but just moved to a new house and although we have a good wifi, it's acting up.

Also, any good site with videos of results. Youtube was great for the last Olympics but not so this time.

Thanks,
VB
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 17, 2016, 02:56:38 PM
VB, if you are stateside use nbcsports.com
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 17, 2016, 03:03:15 PM
Forum, do you think the TF in this Olimpics is fully supported by Rio. I see a lot of empty seats. I have witnessed past Olimpics with bigger stadiums and bigger crowds. Am I wrong on this?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 17, 2016, 03:30:31 PM
Forum, do you think the TF in this Olimpics is fully supported by Rio. I see a lot of empty seats. I have witnessed past Olimpics with bigger stadiums and bigger crowds. Am I wrong on this?

Beach volleyball is the biggest lick.

On ah regular, clubs in the league doh normally fill stadia. But, ppl did their part. They came out to see Bolt.

If I lived there, I would be sampling various events rather than killing one.

Buy-in to this event seems to have come late. What would have been ideal is had an entity subsidized the attehdance of a few favela youths.

Looks like the gold medallist judoka's family had to settle for a seat on a couch in front de TV.

Also, not a lot of household names among their T&F contingent.

Multi-factorial?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: vb on August 17, 2016, 03:39:45 PM
VB, if you are stateside use nbcsports.com

Sorry, I am in Colombia. hence the reason I am catching ass. But I think it has more to do with my new location..trying to sort it out.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 17, 2016, 06:02:00 PM
Forumites who know the schedule. Is Keshorn throwing tonite? I seeing javelin on.  no Keshorn. Is he in another group? And is the 200 final tonite?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 17, 2016, 06:09:12 PM
Forumites who know the schedule. Is Keshorn throwing tonite? I seeing javelin on.  no Keshorn. Is he in another group? And is the 200 final tonite?

Not seeing any highlights on him. Hopefully this does not mean he is doing poorly
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: E-man on August 17, 2016, 06:11:49 PM
Forumites who know the schedule. Is Keshorn throwing tonite? I seeing javelin on.  no Keshorn. Is he in another group? And is the 200 final tonite?

Not seeing any highlights on him. Hopefully this does not mean he is doing poorly

Keshorn is in group B starting in 40 minutes. See:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=keshorn%20walcott&mie=oly%2C%5B%22%2Fm%2F0437y%22%2C6%2C%22g%22%2C2%2Cnull%2C%22%2Fx%2F3bcr2_hfpk3r5%22%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2C20%5D


The 200 semi is momentarily. I see Bolt and them getting ready.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 17, 2016, 06:17:41 PM
Forumites who know the schedule. Is Keshorn throwing tonite? I seeing javelin on.  no Keshorn. Is he in another group? And is the 200 final tonite?

Not seeing any highlights on him. Hopefully this does not mean he is doing poorly

Keshorn is in group B starting in 40 minutes. See:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=keshorn%20walcott&mie=oly%2C%5B%22%2Fm%2F0437y%22%2C6%2C%22g%22%2C2%2Cnull%2C%22%2Fx%2F3bcr2_hfpk3r5%22%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2Cnull%2C20%5D


The 200 semi is momentarily. I see Bolt and them getting ready.


That's right he is in group B
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 17, 2016, 07:10:01 PM
Walcott just threw for 88m. Leading in group B. Group A leader is the German. Threw for 84.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 17, 2016, 07:15:33 PM
Walcott just threw for 88m. Leading in group B. Group A leader is the German. Threw for 84.

Sweet!  Close to his PB, nice KW!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Bitter on August 17, 2016, 07:29:47 PM
Them fellas real exerting themselves to pelt this spear. Keyshorn look smooth.

also, Gatlin expect us to believe that ankle talk?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 17, 2016, 07:31:48 PM
OKAY, Michelle!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Bitter on August 17, 2016, 07:35:00 PM
Hard luck dey Michelle
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 17, 2016, 07:37:28 PM
Thank you Michelle for the effort. God Bless! Congrats to Thompson!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 17, 2016, 07:44:30 PM
Plz lord, no guava season!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 17, 2016, 07:46:15 PM
ET is great too watch.

Michelle represented well. I'm proud.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Bitter on August 17, 2016, 07:51:33 PM
Somebody need to tell these fellas that shouting doh make the javelin go further.

As far as I can tell, all the shouters is the men throwing the shorter distances.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 17, 2016, 08:09:37 PM
The pride of TnT now rest on Keshorn Walcott shoulders
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 17, 2016, 08:20:16 PM
The pride of TnT now rest on Keshorn Walcott shoulders

Good luck and God Speed. I mean God Pelt!!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 17, 2016, 09:05:20 PM

VIDEO: WATCH KESHORN WALCOTT THROW MAMMOTH 88.68 METRES TO QUALIFY FOR JAVELIN FINAL

https://www.facebook.com/CNC3Television/posts/10154467828162996
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 17, 2016, 09:05:49 PM

USA, one, two and three in the 100 hurdles! clean sweep! well done Brianna Collins
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 17, 2016, 10:46:17 PM
Congrats Michelle you did us proud! Now rest up for the 4x100m.

C'Mon Keshorn! You can do it!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: vb on August 18, 2016, 08:21:15 AM
Congrats Michelle you did us proud! Now rest up for the 4x100m.

C'Mon Keshorn! You can do it!

 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: davyjenny1 on August 18, 2016, 08:27:24 AM
How come the forumites eh talking about De Grasse?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 18, 2016, 08:40:52 AM
Is St. Fort still injured? That was a poor anchor in the 4x100m, we went from tied for first to maybe third.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 18, 2016, 08:43:13 AM
Did we qualify?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 18, 2016, 08:50:04 AM
Yes. Two heats, top 3 and 2 fastest losers. But placement in the heats determine the lane draw in the finals.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 18, 2016, 08:52:54 AM
Wow. Men just got in third. But Japan clearly ahead of Jamaica (w/o Bolt) in 37.68 (new Asian record)
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 18, 2016, 08:55:40 AM
Not surprised by Japan, but my commentators seem very much so. Ignored them in the pre-race commentary.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 18, 2016, 08:55:52 AM
Maybe we have to change the order?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 18, 2016, 08:57:59 AM
How come the forumites eh talking about De Grasse?

Because we are also not discussing Kerron Clement? (He's up in a few minutes btw).
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 18, 2016, 08:59:04 AM
Maybe we have to change the order?

I was just happy with no baton issues.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 18, 2016, 09:06:37 AM
Maybe we have to change the order?

I was just happy with no baton issues.

True, we were running 42.0x last year but I guess KAB isnt as strong and MLA isnt as rested.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 18, 2016, 09:11:54 AM
Is the present structure of the false start rule, the best approach?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: RC on August 18, 2016, 09:14:33 AM
Sub 38 is a good run, but i am not sure they can run much faster.
Disappointed with the ladies, maybe lane one was a factor. i was surprised at the running order, i thought kelly ann would lead off and semoy would run 3rd leg
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 18, 2016, 09:18:17 AM
Sub 38 is a good run, but i am not sure they can run much faster.
Disappointed with the ladies, maybe lane one was a factor. i was surprised at the running order, i thought kelly ann would lead off and semoy would run 3rd leg

They in the final, have an oppy to get it right when it counts  :beermug:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 18, 2016, 09:22:21 AM
How come the forumites eh talking about De Grasse?

Hw many born and raised athletes from Canada you want us to talk about?
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 18, 2016, 09:29:05 AM
Sub 38 is a good run, but i am not sure they can run much faster.
Disappointed with the ladies, maybe lane one was a factor. i was surprised at the running order, i thought kelly ann would lead off and semoy would run 3rd leg

They in the final, have an oppy to get it right when it counts  :beermug:

The ladies ran very well for 3 legs (no issues with SH, MLA, or KAB), they got the baton (cleanly) with Germany, then inexplicably our anchor St. Fort ran a sub-par leg getting outdistanced by an average German sprinter by almost a second and letting Nigeria go by for second. We ended up being the slowest sure qualifier before the 2 fastest losers, putting us in lane 2 or 7 in the final. That to me points to some kind of injury. if so they may need to consider running Reyare Thomas in the final, unless the issue with St. Fort was something temporary like nerves, a cold, dehydration, food poisoning, etc.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: E-man on August 18, 2016, 09:33:06 AM
USA women just DQ'd with a baton drop in 4x100
final field

(http://i.imgur.com/P5dc7gd.png)
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 18, 2016, 10:05:53 AM
Did they make it to the next round? If they did. They better come to a quick decision. By the way Kerron Clement won the GOLD. The only Trini to do so, so far. Oh Gosh, give the man some love nah! Congrats Kerron.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 18, 2016, 10:08:34 AM
Did they make it to the next round? If they did. They better come to a quick decision. By the way Kerron Clement won the GOLD. The only Trini to do so, so far. Oh Gosh, give the man some love nah! Congrats Kerron.

tears yes... :beermug:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 18, 2016, 10:08:58 AM
What the forum think about the escalating Lotche affair?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 18, 2016, 10:10:09 AM
Ato need to work some magic. The USA will get either a rerun or be put into the final. I just hear that on cbc
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: RC on August 18, 2016, 10:14:09 AM
Sub 38 is a good run, but i am not sure they can run much faster.
Disappointed with the ladies, maybe lane one was a factor. i was surprised at the running order, i thought kelly ann would lead off and semoy would run 3rd leg

They in the final, have an oppy to get it right when it counts  :beermug:

The ladies ran very well for 3 legs (no issues with SH, MLA, or KAB), they got the baton (cleanly) with Germany, then inexplicably our anchor St. Fort ran a sub-par leg getting outdistanced by an average German sprinter by almost a second and letting Nigeria go by for second. We ended up being the slowest sure qualifier before the 2 fastest losers, putting us in lane 2 or 7 in the final. That to me points to some kind of injury. if so they may need to consider running Reyare Thomas in the final, unless the issue with St. Fort was something temporary like nerves, a cold, dehydration, food poisoning, etc.
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i had a look at the race again KSF may have started too early the slowed before receiving the baton. Even taking this into account she made no impression on the german or nigerian runners. with the USA out a medal is a possibility if they run better in the final
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 18, 2016, 10:15:19 AM
Ato need to work some magic. The USA will get either a rerun or be put into the final. I just hear that on cbc
Aint that some bull?

Had that happened to TTO and we protested they would have said "part of the game, happens all the time, should have prepared for such an occurrence, hard luck, too bad, bye bye"

So now, they just have to run faster than China (42.70) to make the final. If I were China, I would counter-protest.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 18, 2016, 10:19:49 AM
Sub 38 is a good run, but i am not sure they can run much faster.
Disappointed with the ladies, maybe lane one was a factor. i was surprised at the running order, i thought kelly ann would lead off and semoy would run 3rd leg

They in the final, have an oppy to get it right when it counts  :beermug:

The ladies ran very well for 3 legs (no issues with SH, MLA, or KAB), they got the baton (cleanly) with Germany, then inexplicably our anchor St. Fort ran a sub-par leg getting outdistanced by an average German sprinter by almost a second and letting Nigeria go by for second. We ended up being the slowest sure qualifier before the 2 fastest losers, putting us in lane 2 or 7 in the final. That to me points to some kind of injury. if so they may need to consider running Reyare Thomas in the final, unless the issue with St. Fort was something temporary like nerves, a cold, dehydration, food poisoning, etc.
[/quote
i had a look at the race again KSF may have started too early the slowed before receiving the baton. Even taking this into account she made no impression on the german or nigerian runners. with the USA out a medal is a possibility if they run better in the final

http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/tts-4x100-womens-relay-team-3rd-heat-qualify-final
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 18, 2016, 10:22:04 AM
Ato need to work some magic. The USA will get either a rerun or be put into the final. I just hear that on cbc
Aint that some bull?

Had that happened to TTO and we protested they would have said "part of the game, happens all the time, should have prepared for such an occurrence, hard luck, too bad, bye bye"

So now, they just have to run faster than China (42.70) to make the final. If I were China, I would counter-protest.

Things are a bit complicated:
"The Jury of Appeals for the Rio Games upheld the USA’s appeal, saying that Felix was indeed obstructed on the second exchange. The relay team will re-run the race alone tonight (7 p.m. ET), needing to post a time of at least 42.70 seconds to advance into the finals.

"But a successful re-run will create a second problem: Both China and Canada finished with identical 42.70-second times. Therefore, should the USA post a faster time, China and Canada would need to race again to decide which team makes the eight-country final."
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 18, 2016, 10:44:58 AM
Sub 38 is a good run, but i am not sure they can run much faster.
Disappointed with the ladies, maybe lane one was a factor. i was surprised at the running order, i thought kelly ann would lead off and semoy would run 3rd leg

They in the final, have an oppy to get it right when it counts  :beermug:

The ladies ran very well for 3 legs (no issues with SH, MLA, or KAB), they got the baton (cleanly) with Germany, then inexplicably our anchor St. Fort ran a sub-par leg getting outdistanced by an average German sprinter by almost a second and letting Nigeria go by for second. We ended up being the slowest sure qualifier before the 2 fastest losers, putting us in lane 2 or 7 in the final. That to me points to some kind of injury. if so they may need to consider running Reyare Thomas in the final, unless the issue with St. Fort was something temporary like nerves, a cold, dehydration, food poisoning, etc.

The splits available yet?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 18, 2016, 10:48:56 AM

After seeing the video replay, it was clear that the Brazilian bumped into the American, so yes I agree the protest has validity and the Americans should have a re-run.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: E-man on August 18, 2016, 11:04:33 AM
Ato need to work some magic. The USA will get either a rerun or be put into the final. I just hear that on cbc
Aint that some bull?

Had that happened to TTO and we protested they would have said "part of the game, happens all the time, should have prepared for such an occurrence, hard luck, too bad, bye bye"

So now, they just have to run faster than China (42.70) to make the final. If I were China, I would counter-protest.

Things are a bit complicated:
"The Jury of Appeals for the Rio Games upheld the USA’s appeal, saying that Felix was indeed obstructed on the second exchange. The relay team will re-run the race alone tonight (7 p.m. ET), needing to post a time of at least 42.70 seconds to advance into the finals.

"But a successful re-run will create a second problem: Both China and Canada finished with identical 42.70-second times. Therefore, should the USA post a faster time, China and Canada would need to race again to decide which team makes the eight-country final."
Canada was ruled to have run .001 faster than China, so they wouldn't race again.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 18, 2016, 11:15:09 AM
I'm very concerned about our womens relay. We will be getting a bad lane. And our chances for getting a medal is very dim. Please tell me the relay coach was trying something out. Kelly is not what she was. And Khalifa might have let the pressure get to her.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: maxg on August 18, 2016, 11:27:18 AM
I'm very concerned about our womens relay. We will be getting a bad lane. And our chances for getting a medal is very dim. Please tell me the relay coach was trying something out. Kelly is not what she was. And Khalifa might have let the pressure get to her.
All who you expected us to beat to get the medal ? especially now that USA back in the mix. I expected a 5th if everything went well, especially after our individual 100 runs. Yet in relays, any number (baton) could play..Dominican Republic didn't get a chance to move the baton an inch, so you never know.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 18, 2016, 11:31:48 AM
I'm very concerned about our womens relay. We will be getting a bad lane. And our chances for getting a medal is very dim. Please tell me the relay coach was trying something out. Kelly is not what she was. And Khalifa might have let the pressure get to her.

Wait you had high hopes before the Olympics? Anyway still hoping for a very goo result
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Mose on August 18, 2016, 12:47:53 PM
Ato need to work some magic. The USA will get either a rerun or be put into the final. I just hear that on cbc
Aint that some bull?

Had that happened to TTO and we protested they would have said "part of the game, happens all the time, should have prepared for such an occurrence, hard luck, too bad, bye bye"

So now, they just have to run faster than China (42.70) to make the final. If I were China, I would counter-protest.

Things are a bit complicated:
"The Jury of Appeals for the Rio Games upheld the USA’s appeal, saying that Felix was indeed obstructed on the second exchange. The relay team will re-run the race alone tonight (7 p.m. ET), needing to post a time of at least 42.70 seconds to advance into the finals.

"But a successful re-run will create a second problem: Both China and Canada finished with identical 42.70-second times. Therefore, should the USA post a faster time, China and Canada would need to race again to decide which team makes the eight-country final."
Canada was ruled to have run .001 faster than China, so they wouldn't race again.

Aren't there 9 lanes on the track why not just run all 9 teams?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 18, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
This isn't fair to China. The US have an easier chance to get a good time. They should run Canada USA and China. Top 2 to get the final spots.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 18, 2016, 04:01:33 PM
US qualifies with 41.76. Hard luck to China.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 18, 2016, 04:06:53 PM
Looks like we getting lane 8 or 1. US got the fastest qualifying time.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: RC on August 18, 2016, 04:27:09 PM
it will be 7 or 8, fastest losers get 1 or 2
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 18, 2016, 05:28:31 PM
I think it's fair to have high hopes for the ladies seeing as they were the bronze medalists from last year at the World Champs. I don't think that will be the case this year unless we can dip below 42 which seems unlikely.

GB pulled together and have athletes that are more rested/practiced/in better shape.

MLA: 100m finals, 200m finals
Semoy: 100 semis, 200 semis
KAB: 100 heats
Khalifa St fort: fresh

DAS: 200m finals
AP: 100m semis
DH: 100 semis
DN: 100 heats




Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 18, 2016, 06:51:29 PM
I think it's fair to have high hopes for the ladies seeing as they were the bronze medalists from last year at the World Champs. I don't think that will be the case this year unless we can dip below 42 which seems unlikely.

GB pulled together and have athletes that are more rested/practiced/in better shape.

MLA: 100m finals, 200m finals
Semoy: 100 semis, 200 semis
KAB: 100 heats
Khalifa St fort: fresh

DAS: 200m finals
AP: 100m semis
DH: 100 semis
DN: 100 heats


I believe we have to be prepared to run 41.5x or faster if we want to medal in front of Britain and Germany.

If Khalifa can't do a much faster anchor than she did in the Heats due to injury or nerves then I would replace her with Kai Selvon for the anchor so our line-up in final would be:-

Hackett => MLA => KAB => St Fort (If Ato has confidence that St Fort can do a sub-10 anchor and is fully recovered from her injury)

Hackett => MLA => KAB => Selvon (If Ato has confidence that Selvon can do a sub-10 anchor and St Fort is NOT fully recovered from her injury)

Alternatively  if we believe this order will bear us a faster time as we are aimining not just for a sub-42 time but for 41.5x time or faster if we seriously plan to medal:-

KAB => MLA => Hackett => St Fort (If Ato has confidence that St Fort can do a sub-10 anchor and is fully recovered from her injury)

KAB => MLA => Hackett => Selvon (If Ato has confidence that Selvon can do a sub-10 anchor and St Fort is NOT fully recovered from her injury)
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 18, 2016, 07:15:41 PM
Where Socapro? He say this 4x100 team would have run under 38. They lucky if they make the final.

Stop twisting my words my friend. I said they are capable of running sub-38 if everyone appears in similar form to what they displayed at National Champs. I did not say that they would have run under 38.

Plus the 4x100m relay is yet to come so they still have the ability if they can get their act together and want to contend for a medal.

What we know for sure is that they will need to run sub-38 if they wish to medal in the relay.
Its not impossible if everyone is firing and the baton exchanges are all on point so we lose no gound on the exchanges.

I respect your optimism Soca. But this team is not capable of running sub 38, 38.1 or 38.2. The 2012 team did not run sub 38. And Richard, Keston and Emmanuel were in much better form then. I see them running  about 38.2 at the best.  Won't be enough for a medal.

One last thing, something is not looking right for KB, RT and RS. They looked 10x better at trials. They all ran the race much smoother. But today they all looked sloppy. They all looked like they are nursing something.

Where is gawd on pitch?

4X100 METRES RELAY MEN RESULT   
FIRST 3 IN EACH HEAT (Q) AND THE NEXT 2 FASTEST (Q)

HEAT 2 18 AUG 2016 11:48 
POS   ATHLETE   COUNTRY   MARK      REACTION TIME

1   JAPAN   JPN JPN   37.68 Q   AR   0.144
2   JAMAICA   JAM JAM   37.94 Q   SB   0.159
3   TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO   TTO TTO   37.96 Q   SB   0.134
4   GREAT BRITAIN & N.I.   GBR GBR   38.06 q      0.153
5   BRAZIL   BRA BRA   38.19 q   SB   0.163
6   GERMANY   GER GER   38.26      0.155
7   CUBA   CUB CUB   38.47      0.184
8   NETHERLANDS   NED NED   38.53      0.143

Lesson here is not to underestimate the ability of our team.

Hopefully they will run even faster in the final if they plan to medal. A time closer to our NR of 37.62 will be nice and is possible if they execute efficient baton changes in the final and produce the foot speed they are all capable of.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Bitter on August 18, 2016, 07:46:01 PM
That wasn't even close.
Is a good thing Gatlin ankle was huttin him.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 18, 2016, 07:49:55 PM
I was waiting on that one Soca. But let's not play who's predictions did not pan out..

Indeed that was a surprise. Sorrillo ran a storming leg. Very impressive. But let's not forget we have a huge hill to climb. i.e Japan, GB and Canada.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 18, 2016, 07:52:08 PM
Usain facking Bolt!!!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 18, 2016, 08:01:24 PM
I was waiting on that one Soca. But let's not play who's predictions did not pan out..

Indeed that was a surprise. Sorrillo ran a storming leg. Very impressive. But let's not forget we have a huge hill to climb. i.e Japan, GB and Canada.

It's a surprise to you but not to me.

What you didn't factor in your argument about them not running sub-38 back in 2012 when all our team members were arguably in better form is that they had some terrible baton exchanges back in 2012 especially on the last leg and had they had efficient baton exchanges back in 2012 we would have easily placed 3rd without having to rely on any of the other teams being DQed for us to medal.

So once again the lesson here is not to underestimate the ability of our team which is capable of beating Japan, China, GB and Canada if all team members execute the footspeed they are capable of and we can pull off efficient baton exchanges.

Hopefully they will run even faster than that 37.96 in the final if they plan to medal. A time closer to our NR of 37.62 will be nice and is totally possible provided all team members run like their life depends on it and execute efficient baton changes on all legs.

If we don't medal it will be down to lack of relay practice and competitive races to prepare our team for the big stage more than any other factor in my eyes.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 18, 2016, 08:31:19 PM
I hoping the same Soca. But getting close to the NR might be out of reach for thus bunch. We will see
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 18, 2016, 09:18:20 PM
I hoping the same Soca. But getting close to the NR might be out of reach for thus bunch. We will see

Click link to view after 4x100m relay heats interview with the team:
https://twitter.com/CANOCBroadcast/status/766368903614173184

Here is link to watch video of T&T's 4x100m Relay Heat: https://twitter.com/CANOCBroadcast/status/766362704374149120
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: soccerman on August 18, 2016, 11:08:26 PM
Usain facking Bolt!!!
:salute:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Bitter on August 19, 2016, 07:42:35 AM
Racewalking...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqOGlAuUAAEykdj.jpg)

I hope you win.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 19, 2016, 08:04:43 AM
Did they make it to the next round? If they did. They better come to a quick decision. By the way Kerron Clement won the GOLD. The only Trini to do so, so far. Oh Gosh, give the man some love nah! Congrats Kerron.

was just on the today show, congrats to de yute  :beermug:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 19, 2016, 06:26:36 PM
4x400 team dq. Lane infraction.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 19, 2016, 06:27:26 PM
It was Lalonde. I seen it. But was surprised they took this long.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: vb on August 19, 2016, 06:36:06 PM
It was Lalonde. I seen it. But was surprised they took this long.

And out time was promising in comparison to others. ;-(
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 19, 2016, 06:38:24 PM
Disastrous... one of our best medal hopes...
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 19, 2016, 06:38:47 PM
No expectations
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 19, 2016, 06:39:52 PM
That was sloppy from Lalonde. Went from being our 2012 hero to...
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 19, 2016, 07:25:24 PM
I guess the predictions were incorrect. Looks like we will be falling below expectation.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 19, 2016, 07:36:28 PM
Keshorn it's all up to you
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 19, 2016, 07:37:28 PM
I must say Khalifa did a great job on that last leg
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 19, 2016, 07:41:09 PM
I must say Khalifa did a great job on that last leg
By CAC standards maybe, but not quite ready for prime time, wish her the best in coming years.
We need fresh talent - KAB may not be around for 2020, and we need vast improvements from the likes of SH and KS, or someone new.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 19, 2016, 07:47:46 PM
Even China cut we arse - lord this is real guava season
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 19, 2016, 07:49:40 PM
Sad. Sad. The curtain has finally drawn on the 4x100 mens team. They did us well. Kept us a factor in the 4x100 for the past 15 years. Now its time to do work.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 19, 2016, 07:51:56 PM
Even China cut we arse - lord this is real guava season

I was now going and say that. WE LOSE TO CHINAAAAAA. And Japan have now overtaken us as the 3rd fastest team in history. Lets put these Olympic games behind us.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 19, 2016, 07:52:48 PM
Even China cut we arse - lord this is real guava season

Point taken, but you know the Chinese have been wukkin in de trenches.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: royal on August 19, 2016, 07:53:58 PM
Lord put ah hand. We cyar buy a medal? lol ......NAAA get yuh damn act together. we run dem men into de ground no new talent.   
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 19, 2016, 07:56:41 PM
Men's 4x100 DQ as well, adding insult to aggravated injury  :frustrated:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: royal on August 19, 2016, 07:58:35 PM
Men's 4x100 DQ as well, adding insult to aggravated injury  :frustrated:

Yea and  USA too.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 19, 2016, 08:17:27 PM
I must say Khalifa did a great job on that last leg
By CAC standards maybe, but not quite ready for prime time, wish her the best in coming years.
We need fresh talent - KAB may not be around for 2020, and we need vast improvements from the likes of SH and KS, or someone new.
She ran better than the heats. We need something
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 19, 2016, 08:24:58 PM
We need an overhaul of our sprint program
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 19, 2016, 08:34:30 PM
We need an overhaul of our sprint program

We need a sprint program.

Meh uncle used to say " when trini f00k up, we does really f00k up". 2 DQs in a matter of moments.. I know what he meant now.

Let's put these Olympics behind us. Went from our best to what is looking like our worst.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: jason23 on August 19, 2016, 08:39:40 PM
The worst Olympics ever, heck i knew this would be a blighted Olympics  :frustrated: :frustrated:
But i for one im Grateful, for what is happening Now with these Performances,
it just goes to show how half assing and totally Irrelevant the Naaatt is under the Guidance of Serrette, and his board of failures.for years i have been saying this,since our decline in Carifta year after year, yet he constantly skins and grins his teeth like he is accomplishing anything beside Regressing Track and field in this country..
i see people saying we need a over haul etc and NaaaTT need to get they act together, well for me i need them to get the hell out and away from the sport and Start a New Board and Constitution and a New National Program, Centered on Community based and Community Centered Coaching and Athletes in the surrounding areas of such Communities.
if we want Trinidad and Tobago to succeed, we need to start Doing things our way and do away with that failure Administration.
we cant be a Jamaica , cause TnF is only Successful, because of Jamaica over arching and fanatic loving of There Country and Pride they feel when they compete in Regional meets or National meets or even International meets...........etc
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 19, 2016, 08:46:02 PM
Indeed Jason. This is an extension of our decline in CARIFTA.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 19, 2016, 09:00:13 PM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 19, 2016, 09:07:38 PM
Now Keshorn Walcott is our last line of defense tomorrow. Unfair he has to shoulder all the pressure after such a disappointing performance from the Olympic team. But we will see if he rise to the occasion
.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 19, 2016, 09:12:54 PM
Jeez, guava season coming! I honestly did not belief this would happen.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: soccerman on August 19, 2016, 09:37:57 PM
Jason I agree, time to get rid of some of those board members. With this type of poor performance, other serious countries will replace the President one time!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 20, 2016, 07:58:27 AM
Jason I agree, time to get rid of some of those board members. With this type of poor performance, other serious countries will replace the President one time!

Sorry to disappoint you but those board members are not going anywhere which is unfortunate.  The problem is not only the administration.  They are terrible as hell but most of the fans are just as bad.


The first step is for the "fans" to get their @$$ up from the couch and start attending track meets.  It real funny we have the majority of the population on FB talking like experts and criticizing the athletes but when you go a track meet in Trinidad the attendance is in the hundreds.  You ever saw a track meet in Jamaica?  The atmosphere makes the Olympics look soft.

Forumites keep posting about our performance deteriorating at the Carifta Games, are any of you going to the Carifta Games to support the kids?  Are you going to National Secondary Schools T&F Championships?  Are you going to sports day for your alma mater?  Are you going to the Southern Games?  Until you can answer yes to most of those questions you are a big part of the problem.

Young kids in Trini play football more than run track because of the support youth football receive (plus they pull more girls in football compared to track).  So guess what happens?  The better athletes end up playing football versus track and field.  Yet we have been more successful in track and field compared to football.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 20, 2016, 09:01:23 AM
Good pts RM

Qu: what exactly is the football equivalent of winning an individual gold medal at world's or Olympics?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 20, 2016, 10:22:26 AM
Good pts RM

Qu: what exactly is the football equivalent of winning an individual gold medal at world's or Olympics?

Good question.  It is not an apples to apples comparison.  Just like comparing Bolt's medal count to Phelps is not apples to apples.  Swimmers have the opportunity to win more medals in a single games because in general they can participate in more events than a T&F athlete.

To answer your question, there is only one world cup title to be won every 4 years compared to more medals to be won by a T&F athlete. One is a team sport while the other is individual.

My guess would be a world cup quarterfinal would equivalent to a medal. So a semis might be equivalent to the gold medal.  Your question is a difficult one to answer.  However, in regards to Trinidad success on a global level the answer is clear that we are more successful in T&F compared to football.

We have only qualified for one world cup yet we criticize MLA for being the 6th fasted in the world in 100m and 200m.  Can anyone here on the forum say they are the 6th best in the world within any aspect in their life? 

Let's say we all work in oil & gas, so the equivalent of T&F events would be job functions or job titles: drilling engineer, reservoir engineer, chemical engineer, IT manager, supply chain manager, finance manager, etc.  Can any of us claim to be the 6th best in the world in our respective professions?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 20, 2016, 10:37:06 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

A Jamaican hating poster called Justin Nero posted that exact comment word for word on my facebook page.
Do you happen to be that same Justin Hero on facebook by any chance?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 20, 2016, 10:40:20 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

A Jamaican hating poster called Justin Nero posted that exact comment word for word on my facebook page.
Do you happen to be that same Justin Hero on facebook by any chance?

I saw that comment on an ugly ass looking poster Facebook member page name  'Ian Socapro Henry'. Is that you?  :rotfl:

He is an American track hater. I think that is you :rotfl:
.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 20, 2016, 10:41:41 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

I don't think it is hate with yardies.  It is more pride and competitiveness.  You will find haters wherever you go but in general I don't think it is hate in this case.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 20, 2016, 10:43:03 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

I don't think it is hate with yardies.  It is more pride and competitiveness.  You will find haters wherever you go but in general I don't think it is hate in this case.

I have seen the most disgusting comments. For the most part the average American do not follow Track to the extent of the average Jamaican or hold a sentimental value to the sport as Jamaicans, so you don't see a similar response in hate or most times not much backlash to the hate.
.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 20, 2016, 11:00:32 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

A Jamaican hating poster called Justin Nero posted that exact comment word for word on my facebook page.
Do you happen to be that same Justin Hero on facebook by any chance?

I saw that comment on an ugly ass looking poster Facebook member page name  'Ian Socapro Henry'. Is that you?  :rotfl:

He is an American track hater. I think that is you :rotfl:
.

You are projecting Justin. I do not hate American track, just prefer to support Caribbean track athletes above American track athletes because I am from the Caribbean, that is all. Many of our T&T athletes are based in or train in America and some were even born there.

PS:

Btw why the concern about me being ugly in your opinion, are you a female or a puff?

At least I have enough confidence in how I look to use a pic of myself as my profile pic on facebook unlike a certain Jamaican hating fellow called Justin Hero.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 20, 2016, 11:02:46 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

I don't think it is hate with yardies.  It is more pride and competitiveness.  You will find haters wherever you go but in general I don't think it is hate in this case.

I have seen the most disgusting comments. For the most part the average American do not follow Track to the extent of the average Jamaican or hold a sentimental value to the sport as Jamaicans, so you don't see a similar response in hate or most times not much backlash to the hate.
.

Yeah they don't follow the sport like yardies but that don't stop them from being experts right now.  What might be driving the "hate" from yardies is the poor coverage.  Of course the commentators are pro US but they always big up Bolt but then always state he has less medals than Phelps.  When Phelps is swimming they don't talk about Bolt winning every Olympic final he has participated in, a claim Phelps cannot make.  So I am not saying I agree with the disgusting comments but Americans are just as guilty so my approach is to not read any comments. Stupidiy can be contagious at times.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 20, 2016, 11:07:24 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

A Jamaican hating poster called Justin Nero posted that exact comment word for word on my facebook page.
Do you happen to be that same Justin Hero on facebook by any chance?

I saw that comment on an ugly ass looking poster Facebook member page name  'Ian Socapro Henry'. Is that you?  :rotfl:

He is an American track hater. I think that is you :rotfl:
.

You are projecting Justin. I do not hate American track, just prefer to support Caribbean track athletes above American track athletes because I am from the Caribbean, that is all. Many of our T&T athletes are based in or train in America and some were even born there.

PS:

Btw why the concern about me being ugly in your opinion, are you a female or a puff?

At least I have enough confidence in how I look to use a pic of myself as my profile pic on facebook unlike a certain Jamaican hating fellow called Justin Hero.

'Ian SocaPro Henry' you decide to put your pic out there, now we know who is this fella who been hating on the American track athletes for years. We see you comments on several sites. You play with fire, you will get burned.

Go ask dat Justin fella why you not seeing his pic, because it seems yuh want to see his face. If you want to join the disgusting comments laid at American track athletes (by mostly Jamaicans) dais your problem, do not label others who wish to not join the process 'haters'.

Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 11:07:45 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

They know how to use their influence - Might is Right!!

First the women's 4x100m relay got back into the final via the very unusual run-off without Canada and China.
Today I'm hearing the men's 4x100m relay may get back their bronze.
They almost got Robby Andrews back in the 1500m final after he stepped off the track for a stride or 2 in his home stretch win.

Meanwhile we're still out of the 4x400m relay final for same type of infringement - ONE (NOT TWO or THREE) bleeding step out of lane by Lalonde, which to me has happened many times in the past, even at this level. I think this rule should be subject to discretion.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 20, 2016, 11:11:38 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

A Jamaican hating poster called Justin Nero posted that exact comment word for word on my facebook page.
Do you happen to be that same Justin Hero on facebook by any chance?

I saw that comment on an ugly ass looking poster Facebook member page name  'Ian Socapro Henry'. Is that you?  :rotfl:

He is an American track hater. I think that is you :rotfl:
.

You are projecting Justin. I do not hate American track, just prefer to support Caribbean track athletes above American track athletes because I am from the Caribbean, that is all. Many of our T&T athletes are based in or train in America and some were even born there.

PS:

Btw why the concern about me being ugly in your opinion, are you a female or a puff?

At least I have enough confidence in how I look to use a pic of myself as my profile pic on facebook unlike a certain Jamaican hating fellow called Justin Hero.

'Ian SocaPro Henry' you decide to put your pic out there, now we know who is this fella who been hating on the American track athletes for years. We see you comments on several sites. You play with fire, you will get burned.

Go ask dat Justin fella why you not seeing his pic, because it seems yuh want to see his face. If you want to join the disgusting comments laid at American track athletes (by mostly Jamaicans) dais your problem, do not label others who wish to not join the process 'haters'.



Please bring a quote of me supporting any disgusting comments against Americans by Jamaicans you peanut brain excuse for a human being called Justin Hero on facebook.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 20, 2016, 11:14:03 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

A Jamaican hating poster called Justin Nero posted that exact comment word for word on my facebook page.
Do you happen to be that same Justin Hero on facebook by any chance?

I saw that comment on an ugly ass looking poster Facebook member page name  'Ian Socapro Henry'. Is that you?  :rotfl:

He is an American track hater. I think that is you :rotfl:
.

You are projecting Justin. I do not hate American track, just prefer to support Caribbean track athletes above American track athletes because I am from the Caribbean, that is all. Many of our T&T athletes are based in or train in America and some were even born there.

PS:

Btw why the concern about me being ugly in your opinion, are you a female or a puff?

At least I have enough confidence in how I look to use a pic of myself as my profile pic on facebook unlike a certain Jamaican hating fellow called Justin Hero.

'Ian SocaPro Henry' you decide to put your pic out there, now we know who is this fella who been hating on the American track athletes for years. We see you comments on several sites. You play with fire, you will get burned.

Go ask dat Justin fella why you not seeing his pic, because it seems yuh want to see his face. If you want to join the disgusting comments laid at American track athletes (by mostly Jamaicans) dais your problem, do not label others who wish to not join the process 'haters'.



Please bring a quote of me supporting any disgusting comments against Americans by Jamaicans you peanut brain excuse for a human being called Justin Hero on facebook.

We know what you look like American track hater 'Ian Socapro Henry', all the years you joining the disgusting comments by the yardies on several sites against American athletes, we can now put a face to the hate.

Take yuh time,  Doh play innocent now  :D
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 20, 2016, 11:18:39 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

A Jamaican hating poster called Justin Nero posted that exact comment word for word on my facebook page.
Do you happen to be that same Justin Hero on facebook by any chance?

I saw that comment on an ugly ass looking poster Facebook member page name  'Ian Socapro Henry'. Is that you?  :rotfl:

He is an American track hater. I think that is you :rotfl:
.

You are projecting Justin. I do not hate American track, just prefer to support Caribbean track athletes above American track athletes because I am from the Caribbean, that is all. Many of our T&T athletes are based in or train in America and some were even born there.

PS:

Btw why the concern about me being ugly in your opinion, are you a female or a puff?

At least I have enough confidence in how I look to use a pic of myself as my profile pic on facebook unlike a certain Jamaican hating fellow called Justin Hero.

'Ian SocaPro Henry' you decide to put your pic out there, now we know who is this fella who been hating on the American track athletes for years. We see you comments on several sites. You play with fire, you will get burned.

Go ask dat Justin fella why you not seeing his pic, because it seems yuh want to see his face. If you want to join the disgusting comments laid at American track athletes (by mostly Jamaicans) dais your problem, do not label others who wish to not join the process 'haters'.



Please bring a quote of me supporting any disgusting comments against Americans by Jamaicans you peanut brain excuse for a human being called Justin Hero on facebook.

We know what you look like American track hater 'Ian Socapro Henry', all the years you joining the disgusting comments by the yardies on several sites against American athletes, we can now put a face to the hate.

Take yuh time,  Doh play innocent now  :D

Once again please provide the proof you puff who is so concerned with how a man face is looking in his profile pic on facebook.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 20, 2016, 11:23:30 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

A Jamaican hating poster called Justin Nero posted that exact comment word for word on my facebook page.
Do you happen to be that same Justin Hero on facebook by any chance?

I saw that comment on an ugly ass looking poster Facebook member page name  'Ian Socapro Henry'. Is that you?  :rotfl:

He is an American track hater. I think that is you :rotfl:
.

You are projecting Justin. I do not hate American track, just prefer to support Caribbean track athletes above American track athletes because I am from the Caribbean, that is all. Many of our T&T athletes are based in or train in America and some were even born there.

PS:

Btw why the concern about me being ugly in your opinion, are you a female or a puff?

At least I have enough confidence in how I look to use a pic of myself as my profile pic on facebook unlike a certain Jamaican hating fellow called Justin Hero.

'Ian SocaPro Henry' you decide to put your pic out there, now we know who is this fella who been hating on the American track athletes for years. We see you comments on several sites. You play with fire, you will get burned.

Go ask dat Justin fella why you not seeing his pic, because it seems yuh want to see his face. If you want to join the disgusting comments laid at American track athletes (by mostly Jamaicans) dais your problem, do not label others who wish to not join the process 'haters'.



Please bring a quote of me supporting any disgusting comments against Americans by Jamaicans you peanut brain excuse for a human being called Justin Hero on facebook.

We know what you look like American track hater 'Ian Socapro Henry', all the years you joining the disgusting comments by the yardies on several sites against American athletes, we can now put a face to the hate.

Take yuh time,  Doh play innocent now  :D

Once again please provide the proof you puff who is so concerned with how a man face is looking in his profile pic on facebook.

I don't have to provide shit, I have seen what you said about Felix, Gatlin, Merritt and other sprinters on another site. Most times influenced by the hate of others. Yuh lying hypocrite.

Anyway play yuhself, ah done with your ignorance for now, so I can focus on my T&T athletes.
.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 20, 2016, 11:32:15 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

A Jamaican hating poster called Justin Nero posted that exact comment word for word on my facebook page.
Do you happen to be that same Justin Hero on facebook by any chance?

I saw that comment on an ugly ass looking poster Facebook member page name  'Ian Socapro Henry'. Is that you?  :rotfl:

He is an American track hater. I think that is you :rotfl:
.

You are projecting Justin. I do not hate American track, just prefer to support Caribbean track athletes above American track athletes because I am from the Caribbean, that is all. Many of our T&T athletes are based in or train in America and some were even born there.

PS:

Btw why the concern about me being ugly in your opinion, are you a female or a puff?

At least I have enough confidence in how I look to use a pic of myself as my profile pic on facebook unlike a certain Jamaican hating fellow called Justin Hero.

'Ian SocaPro Henry' you decide to put your pic out there, now we know who is this fella who been hating on the American track athletes for years. We see you comments on several sites. You play with fire, you will get burned.

Go ask dat Justin fella why you not seeing his pic, because it seems yuh want to see his face. If you want to join the disgusting comments laid at American track athletes (by mostly Jamaicans) dais your problem, do not label others who wish to not join the process 'haters'.



Please bring a quote of me supporting any disgusting comments against Americans by Jamaicans you peanut brain excuse for a human being called Justin Hero on facebook.

We know what you look like American track hater 'Ian Socapro Henry', all the years you joining the disgusting comments by the yardies on several sites against American athletes, we can now put a face to the hate.

Take yuh time,  Doh play innocent now  :D

Once again please provide the proof you puff who is so concerned with how a man face is looking in his profile pic on facebook.

I don't have to provide shit, I have seen what you said about Felix, Gatlin, Merritt and other sprinters on another site. Most times influenced by the hate of others. Yuh lying hypocrite.

Anyway play yuhself, ah done with your ignorance for now, so I can focus on my T&T athletes.
.

Thanks for confirming that you are just a "Jamaican hater" who is looking for company regards someone who is supposedly an "American hater" so you can feel better about your own illogical hatred for Jamaicans.

You can't bring one quote of me supporting hatred against Americans by Jamaicans and we all know why.
Stop making shit up to try to justify your own hateful mindset against your own Caribbean brothers and sisters who you sound rather envious of in your lame efforts to belittle them at every opportunity.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 20, 2016, 11:34:57 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

A Jamaican hating poster called Justin Nero posted that exact comment word for word on my facebook page.
Do you happen to be that same Justin Hero on facebook by any chance?

I saw that comment on an ugly ass looking poster Facebook member page name  'Ian Socapro Henry'. Is that you?  :rotfl:

He is an American track hater. I think that is you :rotfl:
.

You are projecting Justin. I do not hate American track, just prefer to support Caribbean track athletes above American track athletes because I am from the Caribbean, that is all. Many of our T&T athletes are based in or train in America and some were even born there.

PS:

Btw why the concern about me being ugly in your opinion, are you a female or a puff?

At least I have enough confidence in how I look to use a pic of myself as my profile pic on facebook unlike a certain Jamaican hating fellow called Justin Hero.

'Ian SocaPro Henry' you decide to put your pic out there, now we know who is this fella who been hating on the American track athletes for years. We see you comments on several sites. You play with fire, you will get burned.

Go ask dat Justin fella why you not seeing his pic, because it seems yuh want to see his face. If you want to join the disgusting comments laid at American track athletes (by mostly Jamaicans) dais your problem, do not label others who wish to not join the process 'haters'.



Please bring a quote of me supporting any disgusting comments against Americans by Jamaicans you peanut brain excuse for a human being called Justin Hero on facebook.

We know what you look like American track hater 'Ian Socapro Henry', all the years you joining the disgusting comments by the yardies on several sites against American athletes, we can now put a face to the hate.

Take yuh time,  Doh play innocent now  :D

Once again please provide the proof you puff who is so concerned with how a man face is looking in his profile pic on facebook.

I don't have to provide shit, I have seen what you said about Felix, Gatlin, Merritt and other sprinters on another site. Most times influenced by the hate of others. Yuh lying hypocrite.

Anyway play yuhself, ah done with your ignorance for now, so I can focus on my T&T athletes.
.

Thanks for confirming that you are just a Jamaican hater who is looking for company regards someone who is supposedly an American hater so you can feel better about your own illogical hatred for Jamaicans.

You can't bring one quote of me supporting hatred against Americans by Jamaicans and we all know why.
Stop making shit up to try to justify your own hateful mindset against your own Caribbean brothers and sisters who you sound rather envious of in your lame efforts to belittle them at every opportunity.

Yo trying hard 'Ian SocaPro Henry'. Nice try with the Caribbean brothers and sisters too.  :D
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 20, 2016, 11:43:35 AM
Look how America is dominating the medal table in Track and Field despite all that hate they receive (mostly from Jamaicans). Their mental toughness is sound and solid. We should learn from them
.

A Jamaican hating poster called Justin Nero posted that exact comment word for word on my facebook page.
Do you happen to be that same Justin Hero on facebook by any chance?

I saw that comment on an ugly ass looking poster Facebook member page name  'Ian Socapro Henry'. Is that you?  :rotfl:

He is an American track hater. I think that is you :rotfl:
.

You are projecting Justin. I do not hate American track, just prefer to support Caribbean track athletes above American track athletes because I am from the Caribbean, that is all. Many of our T&T athletes are based in or train in America and some were even born there.

PS:

Btw why the concern about me being ugly in your opinion, are you a female or a puff?

At least I have enough confidence in how I look to use a pic of myself as my profile pic on facebook unlike a certain Jamaican hating fellow called Justin Hero.

'Ian SocaPro Henry' you decide to put your pic out there, now we know who is this fella who been hating on the American track athletes for years. We see you comments on several sites. You play with fire, you will get burned.

Go ask dat Justin fella why you not seeing his pic, because it seems yuh want to see his face. If you want to join the disgusting comments laid at American track athletes (by mostly Jamaicans) dais your problem, do not label others who wish to not join the process 'haters'.



Please bring a quote of me supporting any disgusting comments against Americans by Jamaicans you peanut brain excuse for a human being called Justin Hero on facebook.

We know what you look like American track hater 'Ian Socapro Henry', all the years you joining the disgusting comments by the yardies on several sites against American athletes, we can now put a face to the hate.

Take yuh time,  Doh play innocent now  :D

Once again please provide the proof you puff who is so concerned with how a man face is looking in his profile pic on facebook.

I don't have to provide shit, I have seen what you said about Felix, Gatlin, Merritt and other sprinters on another site. Most times influenced by the hate of others. Yuh lying hypocrite.

Anyway play yuhself, ah done with your ignorance for now, so I can focus on my T&T athletes.
.

Thanks for confirming that you are just a Jamaican hater who is looking for company regards someone who is supposedly an American hater so you can feel better about your own illogical hatred for Jamaicans.

You can't bring one quote of me supporting hatred against Americans by Jamaicans and we all know why.
Stop making shit up to try to justify your own hateful mindset against your own Caribbean brothers and sisters who you sound rather envious of in your lame efforts to belittle them at every opportunity.

Yo trying hard 'Ian SocaPro Henry'. Nice try with the Caribbean brothers and sisters too.  :D

If you don't bring a quote to support your childish claim that I support hate for Americans by Jamaicans or apologise for lying, I might be forced to delete all of your posts with your false accusations against me from this thread.

You are forgetting that I am a Moderator here who is not obliged to allow folks to falsely accuse me of stuff without any evidence to back it.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 20, 2016, 11:58:03 AM
The idiot Sando Prince is no longer allowed to post to this thread unless he brings a quote to back his accusations of me supporting hatred by Jamaicans towards Americans or posts an apology for lying on me.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: E-man on August 20, 2016, 12:45:54 PM
Everyone is talking about a bad exchange outside the zone between Rodgers and Gatlin, but Bromell stepped over the line on his last step before tumbling across the finish line.
I'm not enough of a track expert to know if this would be a DQ, but seems like it. Ato, what do you say?

(http://i.imgur.com/SED9Oh3.jpg)
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 20, 2016, 01:25:44 PM
Everyone is talking about a bad exchange outside the zone between Rodgers and Gatlin, but Bromell stepped over the line on his last step before tumbling across the finish line.
I'm not enough of a track expert to know if this would be a DQ, but seems like it. Ato, what do you say?

(http://i.imgur.com/SED9Oh3.jpg)

I don't think you qualify for being DQed for running out of lane on the home straight once you don't disadvantage another runner by obstructing them or gain any advantage while doing so.
America can keep their bronze medal for this race, which they seem to have earned fairly and squarely.

Big-up to Japan also who has now replaced T&T as the 3rd fastest national 4x1 team of all time behind Jamaica and USA. When we get 100% serious we can produce a team that will run 37.5x or faster and so regain our no.3 position or better still even challenge USA and Jamaica for the no.2 and no.1 spots.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: che on August 20, 2016, 01:32:35 PM
Everyone is talking about a bad exchange outside the zone between Rodgers and Gatlin, but Bromell stepped over the line on his last step before tumbling across the finish line.
I'm not enough of a track expert to know if this would be a DQ, but seems like it. Ato, what do you say?

(http://i.imgur.com/SED9Oh3.jpg)

No it does not. Actually as long as you don't impede another runner. But on the curves if you step on or into the inside lane yes because it shortens your distance.
 
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: che on August 20, 2016, 01:40:59 PM
Qustion for Ato , Soca and others in the know. how come we never protested USA in 2011 when they clearly impeded us on the final change. Should we not have had a run off against the clock like the USA women?

https://www.youtube.com/v/44GP0Co8IR0
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 20, 2016, 02:00:08 PM
Qustion for Ato , Soca and others in the know. how come we never protested USA in 2011 when they clearly impeded us on the final change. Should we not have had a run off against the clock like the USA women?

https://www.youtube.com/v/44GP0Co8IR0

You do not have a run-off after a final you can only do that for Heats and Semis.
Also even if we were not impeded by USA we were not in a position at the final hand off to win a medal so protesting made no sense on this occasion I would guess.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: che on August 20, 2016, 02:17:36 PM
@ Soca thanks for info  :beermug: Although I disagree that we were not in the running. We had a bad 3rd hand off which left us in 5/6th instead of 3rd. But I believe all things considered the USA fall and all. we were not going to catch France but I think Richard had he not been impeded would have ran down St. Kitts. 
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: che on August 20, 2016, 02:19:25 PM
T&T has won medals in 5 consecutive Olympics. Tonight that streak is on the line. Keshorn it is all up to you. Come on my brother we know you can do it......
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: jason23 on August 20, 2016, 03:13:41 PM
Jason I agree, time to get rid of some of those board members. With this type of poor performance, other serious countries will replace the President one time!

Sorry to disappoint you but those board members are not going anywhere which is unfortunate.  The problem is not only the administration.  They are terrible as hell but most of the fans are just as bad.


The first step is for the "fans" to get their @$$ up from the couch and start attending track meets.  It real funny we have the majority of the population on FB talking like experts and criticizing the athletes but when you go a track meet in Trinidad the attendance is in the hundreds.  You ever saw a track meet in Jamaica?  The atmosphere makes the Olympics look soft.

Forumites keep posting about our performance deteriorating at the Carifta Games, are any of you going to the Carifta Games to support the kids?  Are you going to National Secondary Schools T&F Championships?  Are you going to sports day for your alma mater?  Are you going to the Southern Games?  Until you can answer yes to most of those questions you are a big part of the problem.

Young kids in Trini play football more than run track because of the support youth football receive (plus they pull more girls in football compared to track).  So guess what happens?  The better athletes end up playing football versus track and field.  Yet we have been more successful in track and field compared to football.


my friend, im sorry but that response is totally irrelevant!! answer me this? if 10,000 people come every meet in Trinidad an Tobago TnF  for 10yrs, straight?? is it going to make tnt world beaters????come on lets be serious. everything starts from the head.....how the hell you want people to go to meets and support anything when half the time you doh even know it have a meet. yet when u go is some kinda bacchanal. look its stupid to even think that what you saying is Justification for or will be a super Reason of Answers to TnF problems.!! perfect eg" look at SSFL all that crowd and alma mata who going games and supporting.. where are we on the World Stage in Football??? are we World beaters?? come on . stop using uh emotions!!! and a next perfect eg of People in Administration in TnT is grand Games.?? where is it??? ah see it was a Boss Event , seeing that it was cancelled for a After party instead....and i could go on an on. and on........look lets be real....if your the head of the Table. then lead by example. set Procedures and follow through.start Developing Talent that will make people say wow.. i need to come see this guy run... Start Organizing or work in Conjunction with UTT and start a Track and Field Coaching program!! Start going to communities and scouting not only athletes, but people with brains to Elevate the sport through there own Unique way of Coaching while still following a National pathway!! etc and based all of this in conjunction with the communities they are based in and make the community and integral part....make people feel apart instead of expecting them to come an smile kiddy kiddy skin teeth and say take me money ah come 2 support u even doh ah seeing shit non stop for how much decades of sports run in this country!! i for one will not bash the athletes i will stick with the head, cause its the head that charts the coarse, if the head is dead, don't expect the body to function and life.simple. facts of life.!!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 06:21:21 PM
Wow, 3 pseudo-women medalled in the 800m final
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 06:24:54 PM
Keshorn currently in 3rd behind Yego (KEN) 88.24m, and Rohler (GER) after 3 throws - Keshorn in 85.38m.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 06:35:12 PM
Rohler improves to 87.40m on his third, stays in 2nd
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 06:39:17 PM
Top 12 now set for the last 3 throws
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 06:49:49 PM
Keshorn's 4th throw 80.33m - no improvement
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 06:52:11 PM
Yego hurts his knee on a fouled 4th throw, expects to continue - being attended by medical.
Wow in a wheelchair, he may be counting on his lead remaining unbeaten
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 06:57:43 PM
Keshorn's 5th about 77m, steps over the line to call it foul
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 06:58:54 PM
Rohler takes the lead with a 5th round throw of 90.30m
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 07:07:33 PM
Cool so Lagat pulls bronze.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 07:10:48 PM
Keshorn did not seem to concentrate on that last throw, but bronze it is. :applause:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 07:11:09 PM
Last throw just over 72m for Keshorn
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 20, 2016, 07:11:13 PM
Congrats. We leaving with a medal.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 20, 2016, 07:25:46 PM
Good pts RM

Qu: what exactly is the football equivalent of winning an individual gold medal at world's or Olympics?

Good question.  It is not an apples to apples comparison.  Just like comparing Bolt's medal count to Phelps is not apples to apples.  Swimmers have the opportunity to win more medals in a single games because in general they can participate in more events than a T&F athlete.

To answer your question, there is only one world cup title to be won every 4 years compared to more medals to be won by a T&F athlete. One is a team sport while the other is individual.

My guess would be a world cup quarterfinal would equivalent to a medal. So a semis might be equivalent to the gold medal.  Your question is a difficult one to answer.  However, in regards to Trinidad success on a global level the answer is clear that we are more successful in T&F compared to football.

We have only qualified for one world cup yet we criticize MLA for being the 6th fasted in the world in 100m and 200m.  Can anyone here on the forum say they are the 6th best in the world within any aspect in their life? 

Let's say we all work in oil & gas, so the equivalent of T&F events would be job functions or job titles: drilling engineer, reservoir engineer, chemical engineer, IT manager, supply chain manager, finance manager, etc.  Can any of us claim to be the 6th best in the world in our respective professions?

Highlighted some bold pieces, but 1st off, congrats to athletes who showing promise for the future (MLA, MC, KW (congrats Keshorn!  :beermug:), KSF), to those who repped us well and winding down, many thanks.

Highlighted the bold b/c you really cannot do the comparison.  Football is a team sport and for the most part T&F is individual, 4x considerations are still not apples-apples. Likewise, there is no individual competition for forwards, MFs, defenders, keepers. At one time in recent history, we have had household names in each of those positions playing for highly reputable clubs and winning major WW/major titles with their respective clubs.  This to me evens the playing field wrt our accomplishments in T&F and Football, IMO.  I think JA for sure can can say their T&F accomplishments exceed those in football; I wouldn't say so for us.

That said, our investment in sport and proper structure across the board is a no brainer, much has been said about this here before.  Only hope we get it together in my lifetime to see some growth and achievement of true potential in the not too distant future
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 07:31:41 PM
Looks like the Borlees should have had one more son.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 07:42:22 PM
What happened with Botswana?????
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
What happened with Botswana?????
Botswana put their 2 fastest men in 1 and 2, then some average fellas to finish up.
They didn't run Thebe (44.22 this year), nor Nijel Amos (800m) who runs 45.5 and splits 44 mid, which would have put them in a strong gold-medal position.

The silver and bronze times would have been bettered by TTO's NR performance in last year's world championships; wasted opportunity; we continue to throw away plattered opportunities.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 20, 2016, 08:00:58 PM
Jason I agree, time to get rid of some of those board members. With this type of poor performance, other serious countries will replace the President one time!

Sorry to disappoint you but those board members are not going anywhere which is unfortunate.  The problem is not only the administration.  They are terrible as hell but most of the fans are just as bad.


The first step is for the "fans" to get their @$$ up from the couch and start attending track meets.  It real funny we have the majority of the population on FB talking like experts and criticizing the athletes but when you go a track meet in Trinidad the attendance is in the hundreds.  You ever saw a track meet in Jamaica?  The atmosphere makes the Olympics look soft.

Forumites keep posting about our performance deteriorating at the Carifta Games, are any of you going to the Carifta Games to support the kids?  Are you going to National Secondary Schools T&F Championships?  Are you going to sports day for your alma mater?  Are you going to the Southern Games?  Until you can answer yes to most of those questions you are a big part of the problem.

Young kids in Trini play football more than run track because of the support youth football receive (plus they pull more girls in football compared to track).  So guess what happens?  The better athletes end up playing football versus track and field.  Yet we have been more successful in track and field compared to football.


my friend, im sorry but that response is totally irrelevant!! answer me this? if 10,000 people come every meet in Trinidad an Tobago TnF  for 10yrs, straight?? is it going to make tnt world beaters????come on lets be serious. everything starts from the head.....how the hell you want people to go to meets and support anything when half the time you doh even know it have a meet. yet when u go is some kinda bacchanal. look its stupid to even think that what you saying is Justification for or will be a super Reason of Answers to TnF problems.!! perfect eg" look at SSFL all that crowd and alma mata who going games and supporting.. where are we on the World Stage in Football??? are we World beaters?? come on . stop using uh emotions!!! and a next perfect eg of People in Administration in TnT is grand Games.?? where is it??? ah see it was a Boss Event , seeing that it was cancelled for a After party instead....and i could go on an on. and on........look lets be real....if your the head of the Table. then lead by example. set Procedures and follow through.start Developing Talent that will make people say wow.. i need to come see this guy run... Start Organizing or work in Conjunction with UTT and start a Track and Field Coaching program!! Start going to communities and scouting not only athletes, but people with brains to Elevate the sport through there own Unique way of Coaching while still following a National pathway!! etc and based all of this in conjunction with the communities they are based in and make the community and integral part....make people feel apart instead of expecting them to come an smile kiddy kiddy skin teeth and say take me money ah come 2 support u even doh ah seeing shit non stop for how much decades of sports run in this country!! i for one will not bash the athletes i will stick with the head, cause its the head that charts the coarse, if the head is dead, don't expect the body to function and life.simple. facts of life.!!

I not disagreeing that it starts with the administration. our admin stinks.

you think T&F athletes feel the love from fans early in their careers? do you think they get support? most ppl support them after they win a medal.

how you don't know it have a meet?  all the meets listed on www.ttnaaa.org.  just ah lame ass excuse.  anyway, don't go ah damn meet and let athletes run in front of empty stadiums, that is very motivating.

we are not world beaters in football because we lack talent regardless of what we like to fool ourselves in believing.  we have more talent in T&F than football, just we cant recognize it like the Jamaicans, we cant be organized like the Jamaicans, etc.



Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 20, 2016, 08:02:12 PM
Good pts RM

Qu: what exactly is the football equivalent of winning an individual gold medal at world's or Olympics?

Good question.  It is not an apples to apples comparison.  Just like comparing Bolt's medal count to Phelps is not apples to apples.  Swimmers have the opportunity to win more medals in a single games because in general they can participate in more events than a T&F athlete.

To answer your question, there is only one world cup title to be won every 4 years compared to more medals to be won by a T&F athlete. One is a team sport while the other is individual.

My guess would be a world cup quarterfinal would equivalent to a medal. So a semis might be equivalent to the gold medal.  Your question is a difficult one to answer.  However, in regards to Trinidad success on a global level the answer is clear that we are more successful in T&F compared to football.

We have only qualified for one world cup yet we criticize MLA for being the 6th fasted in the world in 100m and 200m.  Can anyone here on the forum say they are the 6th best in the world within any aspect in their life? 

Let's say we all work in oil & gas, so the equivalent of T&F events would be job functions or job titles: drilling engineer, reservoir engineer, chemical engineer, IT manager, supply chain manager, finance manager, etc.  Can any of us claim to be the 6th best in the world in our respective professions?

Highlighted some bold pieces, but 1st off, congrats to athletes who showing promise for the future (MLA, MC, KW (congrats Keshorn!  :beermug:), KSF), to those who repped us well and winding down, many thanks.

Highlighted the bold b/c you really cannot do the comparison.  Football is a team sport and for the most part T&F is individual, 4x considerations are still not apples-apples. Likewise, there is no individual competition for forwards, MFs, defenders, keepers. At one time in recent history, we have had household names in each of those positions playing for highly reputable clubs and winning major WW/major titles with their respective clubs.  This to me evens the playing field wrt our accomplishments in T&F and Football, IMO.  I think JA for sure can can say their T&F accomplishments exceed those in football; I wouldn't say so for us.

That said, our investment in sport and proper structure across the board is a no brainer, much has been said about this here before.  Only hope we get it together in my lifetime to see some growth and achievement of true potential in the not too distant future

 I respect your opinion but I disagree.  how many world class football players we have?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: 100% Barataria on August 20, 2016, 08:11:00 PM
No seen RM, in recent history, the foll would apply: DY (man u), RL (porto), Marv (rangers) and Shaka (newcastle, west ham). All winning accolades with their resp high profile clubs at the height of their careers, honorable mention for KJ...we agree on the most important thing though, we need to be more serious across the board re-investment in sport.

Next up, Levii
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 08:16:50 PM
How many world-class footballers do we have? The answer is "we doh know because our talent identification is botched".
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 08:27:09 PM
Big up, Keshorn! The only medallist (in men's javelin) from 2012 to repeat medal!!!

:applause: :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 08:28:15 PM
I strongly suggest the government via SporTT give SERIOUS thought to a redistribution and re-alottment within the Elite Funding Program, especially the use of funding for T&F. It obviously did not net ANY improved results for this Olympics, as was expected. It actually regressed a few decades in terms of results.

Too few PROVEN athletes receive more than enough funding than they probably need. Those most in need hardly receive any at all, or receive their relative "pittance" too late, probably because the authorities exhaust their budget and have to go find additional funds.

There also seems to be no opportunity for aid for up and coming talent showing progress, especially amongst the juniors. As such maybe they should consider the following:
1. If an athlete already has a "princely" sponsorship deal (to be defined) but performs at an elite level, they should receive a lesser-tiered sum, if they request it. A mature mindset needs to be demonstrated amongst our elite athletes, setting an example, showing that they are above the "eat-a-food/all-for-me" attitude.
2. If an athlete has an average sponsorship deal (to be defined) but performs at an elite level, until they improve to a top-tier sponsorship deal, they should receive an elevated sum that brings their total funding up near, but less than their top-tier peers.
3. A greater portion of the fund budget should be redistributed more equitably to the athletes performing at sub-elite or most-improved levels, to athletes who most sorely need the assistance and have proven their excellence in hardship.
4. In addition, junior athletes who may still consider an amateur athletic scholarship before potentially going pro, should be able to receive non-cash assistance to sustain and improve their performances, for example - annual taxi debit cards for transportation to/from training grounds/stadia, annual strength training/gym memberships, annual subscriptions to NAAA/IAAF endorsed supplements, an annual allotted number visits to sports doctors/massage therapists/psychologists, 1-2 annual assessments at high performance training centers (whether developed in T&T, or the closest in travel to T&T).
5. A new but extremely important class of funding  - for established and aspiring coaches who have been evaluated as successful via their club's performance. They should be selected to participate in a set number of IAAF-sanctioned training courses/clinics paid for the government, and conducted by visiting/invited experts (typically in the 4th quarter of a year) in time for application the following year.

Since the NAAAs is not traditionally a well funded organization, nor beholden (held accountable like the employees of SporTT), some thought needs to be given to how, and which of the 2 organizations needs to be funded and held accountable to produce results and transparency.

The government also needs to invite and credit private sector expertise to help these bodies develop professional grade programs such as:
1. Marketing T&F from an outreach perspective to draw more talent into the sport (we've talked this like a beaten drum but need a roadmap as to how to actually do this effectively)
2. Professionally officiating track meets (staying on schedule, operating timing/wind/measurement technology correctly, etc)
3. Promoting T&F events successfully to appeal more to the general public and more importantly to potentially new sponsors.

There is so much innovation and creativity that T&F organizations can tap into with help from the private sector, if an avenue for the private sector providing help is created by the government (tax credits, etc).

Traditional failure has come from the authorities giving funds to organizations who have no clue nor business in delivering those core non-athletic products/competencies to take local T&F to the next levels (sales, marketing, promotion, sports medicine, athlete image enhancement, etc).
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 20, 2016, 08:35:55 PM
Cool so Lagat pulls bronze.

Or not. Chelimo reinstated with the silver.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 20, 2016, 08:51:20 PM
Cool so Lagat pulls bronze.

Or not. Chelimo reinstated with the silver.

Again, man steps out of lane, but is a US team member so protest approved - as the commentator says, should be allowed for such a nit-picky thing". Small TTO athlete steps out of lane for one step, but protest is denied and we are out of the finals that we should have easily won silver.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: jason23 on August 20, 2016, 09:00:22 PM
Jason I agree, time to get rid of some of those board members. With this type of poor performance, other serious countries will replace the President one time!

Sorry to disappoint you but those board members are not going anywhere which is unfortunate.  The problem is not only the administration.  They are terrible as hell but most of the fans are just as bad.


The first step is for the "fans" to get their @$$ up from the couch and start attending track meets.  It real funny we have the majority of the population on FB talking like experts and criticizing the athletes but when you go a track meet in Trinidad the attendance is in the hundreds.  You ever saw a track meet in Jamaica?  The atmosphere makes the Olympics look soft.

Forumites keep posting about our performance deteriorating at the Carifta Games, are any of you going to the Carifta Games to support the kids?  Are you going to National Secondary Schools T&F Championships?  Are you going to sports day for your alma mater?  Are you going to the Southern Games?  Until you can answer yes to most of those questions you are a big part of the problem.

Young kids in Trini play football more than run track because of the support youth football receive (plus they pull more girls in football compared to track).  So guess what happens?  The better athletes end up playing football versus track and field.  Yet we have been more successful in track and field compared to football.


my friend, im sorry but that response is totally irrelevant!! answer me this? if 10,000 people come every meet in Trinidad an Tobago TnF  for 10yrs, straight?? is it going to make tnt world beaters????come on lets be serious. everything starts from the head.....how the hell you want people to go to meets and support anything when half the time you doh even know it have a meet. yet when u go is some kinda bacchanal. look its stupid to even think that what you saying is Justification for or will be a super Reason of Answers to TnF problems.!! perfect eg" look at SSFL all that crowd and alma mata who going games and supporting.. where are we on the World Stage in Football??? are we World beaters?? come on . stop using uh emotions!!! and a next perfect eg of People in Administration in TnT is grand Games.?? where is it??? ah see it was a Boss Event , seeing that it was cancelled for a After party instead....and i could go on an on. and on........look lets be real....if your the head of the Table. then lead by example. set Procedures and follow through.start Developing Talent that will make people say wow.. i need to come see this guy run... Start Organizing or work in Conjunction with UTT and start a Track and Field Coaching program!! Start going to communities and scouting not only athletes, but people with brains to Elevate the sport through there own Unique way of Coaching while still following a National pathway!! etc and based all of this in conjunction with the communities they are based in and make the community and integral part....make people feel apart instead of expecting them to come an smile kiddy kiddy skin teeth and say take me money ah come 2 support u even doh ah seeing shit non stop for how much decades of sports run in this country!! i for one will not bash the athletes i will stick with the head, cause its the head that charts the coarse, if the head is dead, don't expect the body to function and life.simple. facts of life.!!

I not disagreeing that it starts with the administration. our admin stinks.

you think T&F athletes feel the love from fans early in their careers? do you think they get support? most ppl support them after they win a medal.

how you don't know it have a meet?  all the meets listed on www.ttnaaa.org.  just ah lame ass excuse.  anyway, don't go ah damn meet and let athletes run in front of empty stadiums, that is very motivating.

we are not world beaters in football because we lack talent regardless of what we like to fool ourselves in believing.  we have more talent in T&F than football, just we cant recognize it like the Jamaicans, we cant be organized like the Jamaicans, etc.







actually i always know when it have meets, cause i am a supporter for over 30yrs etc and have been and always been a avid fan of Tnf
but sadly you miss my point! you want people to support. yet you will tell me why i don't go on they web site which is prehistoric and look for when it have meets, my friend i always know when it have meets because of my support, but my argument is based on people who are not in to track and field , what are they doing to make it attractive to the non fans?? what are they doing to bring Non fans in to make them real passionate fans?? tell me and i will eat crow right now......so again your argument failed again on lame excuse,which u cant use! there is barely any marketing or promotion of athletes in there borough or communities to garner support for them or use them as ambassadors for the meets they part take in when its nationals or noting...................like i said you can't expect support if your nothing showing me something that will make me desire and crave to see more and bring a passion of co operation and partnership in any thing what so ever.......!! if you want success then make a brand, when u have a brand u have a identity, and that is what NAAAtt is lacking foremost, and athletes are lacking mentality!!! Lead from the Head and the rest will follow :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: jason23 on August 20, 2016, 09:04:50 PM
I strongly suggest the government via SporTT give SERIOUS thought to a redistribution and re-alottment within the Elite Funding Program, especially the use of funding for T&F. It obviously did not net ANY improved results for this Olympics, as was expected. It actually regressed a few decades in terms of results.

Too few PROVEN athletes receive more than enough funding than they probably need. Those most in need hardly receive any at all, or receive their relative "pittance" too late, probably because the authorities exhaust their budget and have to go find additional funds.

There also seems to be no opportunity for aid for up and coming talent showing progress, especially amongst the juniors. As such maybe they should consider the following:
1. If an athlete already has a "princely" sponsorship deal (to be defined) but performs at an elite level, they should receive a lesser-tiered sum, if they request it. A mature mindset needs to be demonstrated amongst our elite athletes, setting an example, showing that they are above the "eat-a-food/all-for-me" attitude.
2. If an athlete has an average sponsorship deal (to be defined) but performs at an elite level, until they improve to a top-tier sponsorship deal, they should receive an elevated sum that brings their total funding up near, but less than their top-tier peers.
3. A greater portion of the fund budget should be redistributed more equitably to the athletes performing at sub-elite or most-improved levels, to athletes who most sorely need the assistance and have proven their excellence in hardship.
4. In addition, junior athletes who may still consider an amateur athletic scholarship before potentially going pro, should be able to receive non-cash assistance to sustain and improve their performances, for example - annual taxi debit cards for transportation to/from training grounds/stadia, annual strength training/gym memberships, annual subscriptions to NAAA/IAAF endorsed supplements, an annual allotted number visits to sports doctors/massage therapists/psychologists, 1-2 annual assessments at high performance training centers (whether developed in T&T, or the closest in travel to T&T).
5. A new but extremely important class of funding  - for established and aspiring coaches who have been evaluated as successful via their club's performance. They should be selected to participate in a set number of IAAF-sanctioned training courses/clinics paid for the government, and conducted by visiting/invited experts (typically in the 4th quarter of a year) in time for application the following year.

Since the NAAAs is not traditionally a well funded organization, nor beholden (held accountable like the employees of SporTT), some thought needs to be given to how, and which of the 2 organizations needs to be funded and held accountable to produce results and transparency.

The government also needs to invite and credit private sector expertise to help these bodies develop professional grade programs such as:
1. Marketing T&F from an outreach perspective to draw more talent into the sport (we've talked this like a beaten drum but need a roadmap as to how to actually do this effectively)
2. Professionally officiating track meets (staying on schedule, operating timing/wind/measurement technology correctly, etc)
3. Promoting T&F events successfully to appeal more to the general public and more importantly to potentially new sponsors.

There is so much innovation and creativity that T&F organizations can tap into with help from the private sector, if an avenue for the private sector providing help is created by the government (tax credits, etc).

Traditional failure has come from the authorities giving funds to organizations who have no clue nor business in delivering those core non-athletic products/competencies to take local T&F to the next levels (sales, marketing, promotion, sports medicine, athlete image enhancement, etc).
:beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Trini1 on August 20, 2016, 10:11:18 PM
Aviator and STMB both made some great points. Aviator if I was in Trinidad I would be at every meet and supporting the athletes as I have always done even before Carifta. For example I remember the talented Kernesha Spann, John Mark Constantine etc and those before.

STMB I wish those things could be implemented but knowing Trinidad just no. I'm not sure what the circumstances are in adminstration but I feel as if we could do better. Finding some way to get some support from the general population and with increased popularity investors and better programs for training locally. Also involving the entire population and just the afro population.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 20, 2016, 11:26:08 PM
Jason 23,

I understand what you saying but you missing my point.  Yeah branding and all that good stuff can improve the situation but trinis in general only want to support winners.  When I talk about support, I referring to athletes not NAAA.  A lot of our best  T&F athletes leave the sport at an early age to play football.  yes great marketing of high school T&F will help, the yardies do a great job.  my point is we need to stop waiting on the lame ass admins to take the first step.  we as a people need to take the first step.  if you think my argument still lame well we will talk in 20 years and have the same conversation.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: ffisback on August 20, 2016, 11:33:33 PM
Track and field was once well supported in Trinidad but like the other sports in Trinidad when E William's and his pnm party started to put there grips on the land there became a lack of accountably so the people who was running there sporting organizations was able to do what they want which was to take care of them selves and neglect there sports which is why nobody goes to any games or meets anymore removing the people in charge or blaming the fans is just part of the problem.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 20, 2016, 11:43:30 PM
2016 was our worst Olympic performance because we won only 1 medal and our athletes qualified for 7 finals (javelin, shot put, M400, W100, W200, M4x100, W4x100).  MLA and Dylan Carter set national records.

Compare this to pre 1948, 1956, 1968, 1972, 1980-1992, (no medals) and even 2004 (1 bronze medal), 2016 was our worst Olympics.  Trinis not easy.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 20, 2016, 11:45:08 PM
No seen RM, in recent history, the foll would apply: DY (man u), RL (porto), Marv (rangers) and Shaka (newcastle, west ham). All winning accolades with their resp high profile clubs at the height of their careers, honorable mention for KJ...we agree on the most important thing though, we need to be more serious across the board re-investment in sport.

Next up, Levii

I would agree on Latas, Yorke and Shaka.  Levis is next up as you said.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: real madness on August 20, 2016, 11:46:46 PM
What happened with Botswana?????
Botswana put their 2 fastest men in 1 and 2, then some average fellas to finish up.
They didn't run Thebe (44.22 this year), nor Nijel Amos (800m) who runs 45.5 and splits 44 mid, which would have put them in a strong gold-medal position.

The silver and bronze times would have been bettered by TTO's NR performance in last year's world championships; wasted opportunity; we continue to throw away plattered opportunities.

throw away indeed.  this was the big disappointment for me with TTO squad but stuff happens.  I am sure those guys will never make that mistake again.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 21, 2016, 08:24:58 AM
What happened with Botswana?????
Botswana put their 2 fastest men in 1 and 2, then some average fellas to finish up.
They didn't run Thebe (44.22 this year), nor Nijel Amos (800m) who runs 45.5 and splits 44 mid, which would have put them in a strong gold-medal position.

The silver and bronze times would have been bettered by TTO's NR performance in last year's world championships; wasted opportunity; we continue to throw away plattered opportunities.

throw away indeed.  this was the big disappointment for me with TTO squad but stuff happens.  I am sure those guys will never make that mistake again.

Apparently Lalonde Gordon accidentally took one or two early steps out of his lane after he collected the baton from Solomon. It won't have given him any real advantage but it broke rule 163.3a and both T&T and GB being DQed allowed Brazil to reach the final and to give the Brazilian crowd their home team to cheer for in the final track event of the Olympics.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: maxg on August 21, 2016, 10:27:27 AM
If ppl feel this is due to marketing and promotion and strong administration and organization..then we dotish for real
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c7UYbBWOoIc/U0RGLA2IijI/AAAAAAAANsQ/CAxDTTE-UZg/s1600/DSC03885.JPG)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p12/Socapro/Falcon%20Games%202014.jpg)

a friend of mine and ex-national athlete wrote on FB , I hope he don't mind to much I post it here


 "Now that the Olympics events are over I want to voice my opinion about the many misguided and negative remarks from Trinbagonians about our athletes. I am a very hurt and disappointed by the level of ignorance in the remarks from some people. So, we only got one medal, (congrats to Keshorn Walcott for his 3rd place in the javelin) but that is no reason to disrespect and bring down our athletes by calling them failures. Our athletes gave it their all. Being 4th or 5th or 6th in the world is to be celebrated. Many bigger nations with more resources don't achieve that. Trinidad and Tobago is always looked upon as a small athletic power-house by the other nations. Do you all really understand what it takes to bring yourself to world-class level in their respective events? Do you all realize the many hours of brutal training, sacrifices, personal expense and the lack of proper structure in our culture that should nurture athletes from a young age. How many of you ever went to a track meet? Jamaica has made athletics (track and field) the number ONE sporting priority in the country. The largest crowd at any event in Jamaica is at High School Champs. In Trinidad, if you get a couple hundred at our champs, even senior champs, you are lucky. (Look at the photos for comparison.) We all know that through the years various governments, business corporations and the general public do not invest in making sure the basic structure is in place to nurture our athletes, those in the arts or those gifted in other fields. Hasley Crawford, our first gold medal winner, used to train in the cane fields before going away to Eastern Michigan. Even when athletes go away on scholarship they face many hardship at their various schools. (I went away on a track scholarship and had to work part-time as a janitor, while studying and training, to get pocket change.) Trinis are low-class freeloaders. No support when you're coming up but as soon as you make it big everyone wants to jump on your back for a free ride. Some of us are dotish people. Show your love for every single athlete who put on that beautiful red uniform (the same red that you all love to fly with “pride”) and went out there to showcase Trinidad and Tobago to the world. Next Champs, I want to see you all at the Hasley Crawford Stadium showing love to the athletes. If not, hush all yuh mudda arse."

https://www.facebook.com/gleanerjamaica/videos/679282952226813/
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 21, 2016, 10:43:19 AM
If ppl feel this is due to marketing and promotion and strong administration and organization..then we dotish for real
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c7UYbBWOoIc/U0RGLA2IijI/AAAAAAAANsQ/CAxDTTE-UZg/s1600/DSC03885.JPG)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p12/Socapro/Falcon%20Games%202014.jpg)

a friend of mine and ex-national athlete wrote on FB , I hope he don't mind to much I post it here


 "Now that the Olympics events are over I want to voice my opinion about the many misguided and negative remarks from Trinbagonians about our athletes. I am a very hurt and disappointed by the level of ignorance in the remarks from some people. So, we only got one medal, (congrats to Keshorn Walcott for his 3rd place in the javelin) but that is no reason to disrespect and bring down our athletes by calling them failures. Our athletes gave it their all. Being 4th or 5th or 6th in the world is to be celebrated. Many bigger nations with more resources don't achieve that. Trinidad and Tobago is always looked upon as a small athletic power-house by the other nations. Do you all really understand what it takes to bring yourself to world-class level in their respective events? Do you all realize the many hours of brutal training, sacrifices, personal expense and the lack of proper structure in our culture that should nurture athletes from a young age. How many of you ever went to a track meet? Jamaica has made athletics (track and field) the number ONE sporting priority in the country. The largest crowd at any event in Jamaica is at High School Champs. In Trinidad, if you get a couple hundred at our champs, even senior champs, you are lucky. (Look at the photos for comparison.) We all know that through the years various governments, business corporations and the general public do not invest in making sure the basic structure is in place to nurture our athletes, those in the arts or those gifted in other fields. Hasley Crawford, our first gold medal winner, used to train in the cane fields before going away to Eastern Michigan. Even when athletes go away on scholarship they face many hardship at their various schools. (I went away on a track scholarship and had to work part-time as a janitor, while studying and training, to get pocket change.) Trinis are low-class freeloaders. No support when you're coming up but as soon as you make it big everyone wants to jump on your back for a free ride. Some of us are dotish people. Show your love for every single athlete who put on that beautiful red uniform (the same red that you all love to fly with “pride”) and went out there to showcase Trinidad and Tobago to the world. Next Champs, I want to see you all at the Hasley Crawford Stadium showing love to the athletes. If not, hush all yuh mudda arse."

Couldn't say it better especially that comment about most Trinis behaving like Low-class Freeloaders demanding something for nothing.
They want to make great demands on our athletes come Olympics yet they generally don't show our athletes the required love and support at local meets from school level coming up.
We are generally getting the results that we deserve and need to look in the mirror when we make all these demands for Olympic gold medals from our athletes.

Big-up to the Jamaicans who honestly deserve every bit of the success in athletics that they are currently reaping today. We should not envy them but rather try our best to emulate them.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: ffisback on August 21, 2016, 11:42:10 AM
If ppl feel this is due to marketing and promotion and strong administration and organization..then we dotish for real
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(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p12/Socapro/Falcon%20Games%202014.jpg)

a friend of mine and ex-national athlete wrote on FB , I hope he don't mind to much I post it here


 "Now that the Olympics events are over I want to voice my opinion about the many misguided and negative remarks from Trinbagonians about our athletes. I am a very hurt and disappointed by the level of ignorance in the remarks from some people. So, we only got one medal, (congrats to Keshorn Walcott for his 3rd place in the javelin) but that is no reason to disrespect and bring down our athletes by calling them failures. Our athletes gave it their all. Being 4th or 5th or 6th in the world is to be celebrated. Many bigger nations with more resources don't achieve that. Trinidad and Tobago is always looked upon as a small athletic power-house by the other nations. Do you all really understand what it takes to bring yourself to world-class level in their respective events? Do you all realize the many hours of brutal training, sacrifices, personal expense and the lack of proper structure in our culture that should nurture athletes from a young age. How many of you ever went to a track meet? Jamaica has made athletics (track and field) the number ONE sporting priority in the country. The largest crowd at any event in Jamaica is at High School Champs. In Trinidad, if you get a couple hundred at our champs, even senior champs, you are lucky. (Look at the photos for comparison.) We all know that through the years various governments, business corporations and the general public do not invest in making sure the basic structure is in place to nurture our athletes, those in the arts or those gifted in other fields. Hasley Crawford, our first gold medal winner, used to train in the cane fields before going away to Eastern Michigan. Even when athletes go away on scholarship they face many hardship at their various schools. (I went away on a track scholarship and had to work part-time as a janitor, while studying and training, to get pocket change.) Trinis are low-class freeloaders. No support when you're coming up but as soon as you make it big everyone wants to jump on your back for a free ride. Some of us are dotish people. Show your love for every single athlete who put on that beautiful red uniform (the same red that you all love to fly with “pride”) and went out there to showcase Trinidad and Tobago to the world. Next Champs, I want to see you all at the Hasley Crawford Stadium showing love to the athletes. If not, hush all yuh mudda arse."

https://www.facebook.com/gleanerjamaica/videos/679282952226813/
T&T athletes has to be the most bunch of pampered and insecure people in the world if they can't take criticism people are free to voice there opinion weather you like it or not.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: jason23 on August 21, 2016, 12:16:13 PM
ffisback, leave it be lmao its just a justification for never giving 100 percent that's all
always with the Jamaica comparison, yet let ah Jamaican perform the way how this TnT team play and you will see lots of Support and love for their team*sarcastically*

if you want me to support you show me why i should , give me a reason to support, give me a reason to spend my money to come and see and then i will say yes. i will support, and second that ex athlete is just what you call ah emotional one. you don't go in to sports for people to support you and love you.
you go in to be the best you can be and striving the be the best in the world.not performing and waiting for people to come and see you.
it just's shows that athletes are just ah extension of Trinidad Culture or lack of passion etc.same way he bawling fans are free loading bandwagonist......
same way athletes are attention seeking whores, who desire money and bling and all that life style to walk like starz! yet there performance is mediocre!! its a two way street not a one way,
cause if people love to support mediocrity so. then they should expect it  in there daily life and never complain when someone give them ah half ass job on they work or there boss pay them for mediocrity and expecting full pay....!! its plain and simple.!!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: maxg on August 21, 2016, 12:18:01 PM
Can't take criticism ? that is what what you get from this ? pampered and insecure...Ppl free to voice opinion, and nobody allowed to voice their own opinion informing whether those people are in fact wrong ? so who really pampered and insecure here..check what you saying..
 That's ok. We need different perspectives to learn and grow as people... many voices make a choir (band,team,country), but it takes a lot of work to ensure they are in harmony and work together to make beautiful music, otherwise it's just chaos and noise..The point above was not a defense of criticism of the athletes.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: maxg on August 21, 2016, 12:26:40 PM
so ppl have eyes but can't see, legs and can't walk, a mind and can't think, many blessings yet to them it's a curse..everything and still nothing.. I can't help
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 21, 2016, 12:43:10 PM
Can't take criticism ? that is what what you get from this ? pampered and insecure...Ppl free to voice opinion, and nobody allowed to voice their own opinion informing whether those people are in fact wrong ? so who really pampered and insecure here..check what you saying..
 That's ok. We need different perspectives to learn and grow as people... many voices make a choir (band,team,country), but it takes a lot of work to ensure they are in harmony and work together to make beautiful music, otherwise it's just chaos and noise..The point above was not a defense of criticism of the athletes.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 21, 2016, 02:45:02 PM
Can't take criticism ? that is what what you get from this ? pampered and insecure...Ppl free to voice opinion, and nobody allowed to voice their own opinion informing whether those people are in fact wrong ? so who really pampered and insecure here..check what you saying..
 That's ok. We need different perspectives to learn and grow as people... many voices make a choir (band,team,country), but it takes a lot of work to ensure they are in harmony and work together to make beautiful music, otherwise it's just chaos and noise..The point above was not a defense of criticism of the athletes.

:thumbsup:

There is validity on both sides of this argument. There is validity in exposing the lack of support for TF at home. Track meets are sorely lacking in support. I am still surprised to see Southern Games still holding on. But the other meets are full of invisible people. On the other hand, the critics have valid points. The mistakes that caused the DSQ hurts.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: ffisback on August 21, 2016, 09:04:50 PM
What hurts is when I look at the medal table for the battle for Caribbean supremacy well the Bahamas normally finish ahead of us in the olympics anyway but when I see Grenada to finishing ahead of us that 1 hurts me.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 21, 2016, 11:19:15 PM
What hurts is when I look at the medal table for the battle for Caribbean supremacy well the Bahamas normally finish ahead of us in the olympics anyway but when I see Grenada to finishing ahead of us that 1 hurts me.

I am not hurt by Grenada finishing ahead of us, at least 25% of Afro-Trinis have a link with Grenada if you go back far enough in their family tree. All ah we is one family as Lord Nelson says!
When Cedenio becomes an official sub-44 quarter-miler and can beat Kirani James in an Olympic final then that will ensure that Grenada don't finish ahead of us if none of our other athletes medal in their events.
In addition we also need Deon Lendore and Lalonde Gordon to step up and keep ahead of Bralon Taplin of Grenada with their SB and PB times so that when Grenada brings their M4x400 team that they do not end up displacing us as one of the top three Caribbean M4x400 relay teams alongside Jamaica and Bahamas.

If our M4x400 team was not DQed in Rio we would most likely had won silver and would have finished ahead of Grenada in the Medal Table with 1 silver and 1 bronze but mishaps and mistakes do happen to teams in the relays from time to time. Lets hope our M4x400 team learn from this and don't make a similar mistake again in the future especially at the Olympics.

We also need to develop a Women's 4x400m Relay team that can do well at World Relays next year and eventually qualify for the Tokyo 2020 Olympics and challenge for a medal like our other relay teams.

If T&T can up our game in all our relay teams preparations by ensuring that they run more regularly together and get more practice then we have the potential to win at least 3 relay medals in the W4x100m, M4x100m & M4x400m when the next Olympics comes round.
So if we do that and Jehue can regain his 2013 400m Hurdles form and Keshorn can continue as he is going plus Cedenio can get into the top 3 in the Men 400m and MLA and eventually St Fort can get into the top 3 in the 100m and 200m and KAB can get back into 10.8x form to keep up with MLA and St Fort then come Olympics we should be able to seriously challenge for at least 8 medals in:-
W100m, W200m, M400m, M400m Hurdles, M Javelin, W4x100m, M4x100m & M4x400m

Once we can be strong and serious medal contenders in the 8 events above then chances are we will always come out of the Olympics with at least 3 to 4 medals minimum and if we have a very good Olympics potentially 8 medals.

It would be also great if at least 3 of our male sprinters can step up in the 100m and 200m and become regular sub10 and sub-20 sprinters listed in the top 10 in the world every season so that we can start back having at least one T&T male sprinter making the 100m and/or 200m finals at the Olympics. 
That way we can at least ensure that Japan and China can no longer beat us in a World Champs and Olympic 4x100m Final as is now starting to become normal.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 22, 2016, 12:06:47 AM
Some of you want to soft-talk this Olympic experience and conclude that all of our athletes did their very best and were just unfortunate. If we accept that, then nothing will change for the better for TTO T&F.

This Olympics was underwhelming, plain and simple - no matter how much lipstick we want to put on the pig.

When you have athletes performing worse at the Olympic Games than they did at TTO Olympic trials, that is a failure. Conditions were no worse, and most likely better at the Rio Olympic stadium (track, wind, competition, etc).

We therefore have to evaluate why not just a few, but a significant measure of our seasoned and professional athletes, receiving elite funding, and resident at world-class training groups in the US could get it so wrong. If we don't then we pissing into the wind.

I for one will not advocate calling athletes by puerile names nor offering up destructive criticism, but when they do not perform up to their capabilities then it begs a question - are they injured, are they fully-fit as they say, did they overtrain, were they mentally prepared, were they properly peaked and tapered, were the OG village accommodations inadequate, was the food in the OG village a cause of any discomfort, etc.

In a news article the team mentioned they had a GREAT camp. I beg to differ.
100m MEN
No one ran even close to their SB, OG trial times, far less their PB, at the Olympic Games, the Olympic Games people - what they all train their lives for. Given that our 100/200m sprinters are aging and in their last OG cycle, if no one comes forward to mention that they are carrying an injury/niggle, etc. then this campaign was a failure in preparation, a failure in peaking or tapering, a failure in judging ones efforts during the rounds - all extremely disappointing for an experienced group.
4x100m MEN
While we competed commendably in the semis, our experienced athletes had a lane or passing zone violation in the final, something that we have been astute enough in the past OGs to prevent. Not one athlete nor designated coach has come forward and owned up as an adult or professional to say, look it was my fault and not my intention, not one person.
4x100m WOMEN
Someone has to speak up about Khalifa St. Fort's underwhelming performance on anchor and why a change was not made. The first indication was in the semis. An 11.16 performer does not get gapped or overtaken by some of our competition (Germany and Nigeria) that hardly has that talent even on their anchor (Okagbare ran the 2nd leg). I have to assume the young lady is not 100%, because no one has voiced up to it.
4x400m MEN
This was a most disappointing result. Lalonde Gordon suffered a mental mishap that as an experienced pro, he should not have, and needs to verbally take responsibility and move on.

Maybe I'm premature here. Maybe once they leave Rio and collect their thoughts they will do so. But all we are hearing is that they all did their very best and the lost opportunities were just misfortunes. That is not what I'd expect from professionals. You are receiving all sorts of financial assistance - explain yourself.

In some of the events, we had athletes meeting the qualifying standards but did not expect medals (110m hurdles, 200m MEN and WOMEN, 400m hurdles WOMEN). Then there was the 400m hurdles MEN (why was Jehue Gordon selected). What, he get a pass because he "in the club"? He was a world champion 3 years ago but has declined (48.7, 49.2, 49.98). it is only recently we are hearing about recovery from surgery.

So to one poster,
YES, we need to revamp the entire approach including marketing, promotion, proper coaching, funding redistribution to improve the appeal and brand of T&F in TTO.
YES, some of us in the forum are actually former TTO junior and senior athletes who have experienced the hamster wheel ourselves, know what we are talking about, and want to see TTO T&F get out of this sad story cycle.

But we keep doing the same crap. Maybe you've heard the recycled story - "A world class talent or 2 comes along every 5-10 years, we ride that/those athletes back, showering them with praise, gifts and resources, like a Nobel Prize recipient, while neglecting the 99%. Then we fool the public with short memories into believing that T&F is on an upswing. When said athlete(s) pass(es) their peak we start to denigrate them and leave them out in the cold, unless they are locally connected, got an education along the way, or decide to stay abroad".

So let's be honest, objective, and analytical here. Achieving sustainable improvement will not come by chance, there is a measure of will, science, expertise, and practicality needed.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 22, 2016, 12:51:36 AM
STMB, I agree with most of your above post but would word this bit slightly different to be more accurate.

Some of you want to soft-talk this Olympic experience and conclude that all of our athletes did their very best and were just unfortunate. If we accept that, then nothing will change for the better for TTO T&F.

I do believe that all our athletes gave their very best but most were not properly prepared either physically or mentally or both to make their best efforts count when it mattered the most.

Sorrillo for example did not progress out of the 100m Heats because he slowed down and assumed that he had the 2nd place secured behind Gatlin.
He then came back in the 200m Heats and almost made the same mistake again by relaxing & slowing down in his 200m heat before the line and only made it to the Semi Finals in 200m as a fastest loser. As we know fastest losers always get the worst lanes in Semis and so Sorillo was given lane 1 in his 200m Semi Final and so could not progress and ran even slower than he did in the Heats.
What was disappointing to me about Sorrillo is that he stated in an interview after he won the 200m Final at National Trials that he was prepared to go sub-20 this season because everything was going well in training, etc and he had no injuries to contend with this season. I was hoping that he was saving his best for the Olympics and would go sub-20 there and hopefully make the 200m Final to prove that he is progressing both physically and mentally as an athlete with all his experience.

Deon Lendore and Lalonde Gordon were both disappointing in the individual 400m and after seeing them run in the Heats and Semi Final respectively I started to worry a little about us being able to win gold ahead of the USA or even silver or bronze ahead of one of the other top contenders but I never imagined that we won't even make it to the 4x4 Final due to a DQ and none of our quarter-milers who made the mistake and was responsible for us being DQed would own-up and come out and say my bad, I made a novice error but promise that I will learn from this and never make such an error ever again.

I also believe that in the W4x100m relay that both Kelly-Ann Baptiste and Khalifa St Fort were clearly not at their best and that Reyare Thomas should have ran the 3rd leg and Kai Selvon should have run the 4th leg in the 4x100m Final and we could have most likely performed better and go sub-42 in that Final. But I am not the relay coach to see how they are running in practice but to me no one should be guaranteed a spot in the 4x100m Final if they were clearly not at their very best in the 4x100m Heats. Competition for places and best performances is what will help us to medal and once we move away from that standard we are going to be throwing away our best chances to medal especially seeing that our rivals for 3rd place are now regularly running sub-42 while we are still stuck on 42.xx times which is no longer good enough for 3rd place in the W4x100m Final.

Stlll big-up to these Team TTO athletes who all performed to expectation and made the Finals in their individual events:-

Michelle-Lee Ahye (100m/200m Finalist)
Machel Cedenio (400m Finalist)
Cleopatra Borel (Shotput Finalist)
Keshorn Walcott (Javelin Finalist)

We can expect these 4 Team TTO athletes just above to be rewarded with a lot of Diamond League invites before the season ends and during the next season based upon their Olympic Finals performances.
Special big-up to Keshorn Walcott for the bronze medal which saved our TTO Olympic Team from having a totally disastrous Olympic medal winning campaign this time round.

For Team TTO to seriously win at least 10 gold medals in our Olympic history by 2024 as is the current TTOC Olympic Medal Campaign slogan, we needed to win 2 or 3 gold medals at this Rio Olympics and another 3 gold medals at Tokyo 2020 and another 3 gold medals at the 2024 Olympics wherever that is held.
So as it now stands we are already 2 or 3 gold medals short of achieving the TTOC Olympic medal winning target of 10 golds by 2024 which means to catch up we now need to win at least 4 gold medals in 2020 to take our total up to 6 gold medals and then another 4 gold medals in 2024 to take us up to 10 gold medals.
Unless we get serious like Jamaica is about track & field and other sports I can't see where this ambitious goal of 10 Olympic gold medals by 2024 is going to come from unless one or two of the other sports outside of track and field also start to contribute Olympic gold medals to our Olympic treasure chest.

We also need to see some of the Indo-Trini population making the Olympic standard in their sport of choice and in our TTO Olympic team as their clear lack of representation in the TTO Olympic team should be of serious concern. If White-Trinis could make our Olympic team by attaining the Olympic standard in their sport of choice and they are such a small percentage of our T&T population then what is stopping Indo-Trinis who make up about 35% of our population from making our Olympic team to reflect the full diversity of T&T as a nation?
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: ProudTrinbagonian on August 22, 2016, 06:39:38 AM
I agree with the above post. There needs to be a larger contingent represented by athletes, men and women of all races. This country is too talented to have 1 medal.

Thank god for Keshorn who salvaged something for us. We have regressed and failure should not be commended.
Bolt said after his first games he cried and that the people in Jamaica called him a failure. Now they call him GOAT. We as a people need to stop accepting mediocrity
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: maxg on August 22, 2016, 08:58:53 AM
Reaching the Olympic games by attaining the standards (not any special invite) is mediocre now. ok. Let`s try looking at this from perspective of athlete & coach. As STMB correctly pointed out. Any athlete-coach who goes to THE big meet and does not do a pb or sb would have a solid dose of introspection and reflection of their sport. From a personal level, the greatest support is required when failure occurs, more so than when successful. This is when everything has to be analyzed, emotional. mental and physical and trying to determine what processes and methods must be changed and improved upon or in many cases, and probably most difficult, which must be persevered with.
 As we see, even if a world class athlete manage a pb, does not guarantee a medal or even a final look. That does not make them less of being world class. At this level it takes sifting through a lot of earth to find a few diamonds, we are blessed with many small diamonds with very little work, yet it is not enough. Which in itself is fine, but are we willing to do more work to reap larger rewards, or are we just gonna sit back and comment on the size of the little diamonds we reap. I happened to be in TT for the National meet and was so encouraged by the radio and television promotion that I said I had to be there. Many people I spoke to said they saw the ads, and had to be there, especially because everyone knew someone from their area who was competing personally. From Richard Thompson to noname athletes I didn`t know. I had no less than 10 offers to go down on Friday & Saturday. Suddenly everyone of those offers were busy on Friday. On Saturday, Ato`s dad passed for me, and to look in on his aunt, I told him go ahead, about 2 buddies passing for me. I eventually begged a cousin to give me a lift, and she couldn`t stay as she had a dinner date that evening. No one who indicated they would be there showed, I know because while searching for Ato`s dad(which didn`t take long) among the relatively few ppl I didn`t see them or they me.
Ato dad chastised me for not knowing better. When you look at the difference in pictures above, the difference can be viewed as lots of earth in one and hardly any in the other.
 Yes, the athletes can do better, but realize they know it. Listen to them. Listen to the winners. Even them expected to have done better, based on their previous results and training. Even the Legend felt so, but he won. And he is confident that he would not have to carry on longer, because he has served to motivate and encourage many in his country, as he has been encouraged by the support and spotlight he recieved as a young athlete.
 If we will constantly chastise our strong representatives when they fail, if even by their own standards, then expect our few young potentials to find ways to avoid this negativity, and not waste their time with other people non-acceptance of mediocrity. Meanwhile, we might be throwing out the baby with the dirty bath water. I thank god for the coaches and parents who however keep those that persist encouraged and going, those fans, who actually come out to support, Like my little friend and grandmother who travelled from La Brea  and paid a weekend to stay in town to see and support their neighbour Sorillo run, and others like them. I am sure they were very proud of him, irregardless of his result this time. (https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13521834_1256042707753094_8153059547649118445_n.jpg?oh=2000e78727cb3c14458f6d9089550877&oe=5854B878)

Yes, changes should and must be made, but let`s not destroy and discourage and instead analyze, modify,tweak and encourage. I think the long term results would be more satisfactory. I have been trying with my own kids and so far it has been good, in spite of their current mediocrity on the world stage. Yet, it`s still a personal choice. And if they make it , I know we all tried our best, and therein lie our Success.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 22, 2016, 09:18:00 AM
Reaching the Olympic games by attaining the standards (not any special invite) is mediocre now. ok. Let`s try looking at this from perspective of athlete & coach. As STMB correctly pointed out. Any athlete-coach who goes to THE big meet and does not do a pb or sb would have a solid dose of introspection and reflection of their sport. From a personal level, the greatest support is required when failure occurs, more so than when successful. This is when everything has to be analyzed, emotional. mental and physical and trying to determine what processes and methods must be changed and improved upon or in many cases, and probably most difficult, which must be persevered with.
 As we see, even if a world class athlete manage a pb, does not guarantee a medal or even a final look. That does not make them less of being world class. At this level it takes sifting through a lot of earth to find a few diamonds, we are blessed with many small diamonds with very little work, yet it is not enough. Which in itself is fine, but are we willing to do more work to reap larger rewards, or are we just gonna sit back and comment on the size of the little diamonds we reap. I happened to be in TT for the National meet and was so encouraged by the radio and television promotion that I said I had to be there. Many people I spoke to said they saw the ads, and had to be there, especially because everyone knew someone from their area who was competing personally. From Richard Thompson to noname athletes I didn`t know. I had no less than 10 offers to go down on Friday & Saturday. Suddenly everyone of those offers were busy on Friday. On Saturday, Ato`s dad passed for me, and to look in on his aunt, I told him go ahead, about 2 buddies passing for me. I eventually begged a cousin to give me a lift, and she couldn`t stay as she had a dinner date that evening. No one who indicated they would be there showed, I know because while searching for Ato`s dad(which didn`t take long) among the relatively few ppl I didn`t see them or they me.
Ato dad chastised me for not knowing better. When you look at the difference in pictures above, the difference can be viewed as lots of earth in one and hardly any in the other.
 Yes, the athletes can do better, but realize they know it. Listen to them. Listen to the winners. Even them expected to have done better, based on their previous results and training. Even the Legend felt so, but he won. And he is confident that he would not have to carry on longer, because he has served to motivate and encourage many in his country, as he has been encouraged by the support and spotlight he recieved as a young athlete.
 If we will constantly chastise our strong representatives when they fail, if even by their own standards, then expect our few young potentials to find ways to avoid this negativity, and not waste their time with other people non-acceptance of mediocrity. Meanwhile, we might be throwing out the baby with the dirty bath water. I thank god for the coaches and parents who however keep those that persist encouraged and going, those fans, who actually come out to support, Like my little friend and grandmother who travelled from La Brea  and paid a weekend to stay in town to see and support their neighbour Sorillo run, and others like them. I am sure they were very proud of him, irregardless of his result this time. (https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13521834_1256042707753094_8153059547649118445_n.jpg?oh=2000e78727cb3c14458f6d9089550877&oe=5854B878)

Yes, changes should and must be made, but let`s not destroy and discourage and instead analyze, modify,tweak and encourage. I think the long term results would be more satisfactory. I have been trying with my own kids and so far it has been good, in spite of their current mediocrity on the world stage. Yet, it`s still a personal choice. And if they make it , I know we all tried our best, and therein lie our Success.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: STMB on August 22, 2016, 09:56:22 AM
NO UNITY IN RIO

Olympic champion Keshorn Walcott who won T&T’s only medal at the Rio Olympics which ended yesterday, has blasted the lack of team spirit and unity within the T&T camp during the Games.

“We did not do so well as a team this year because honestly, for my part, we were not a team. We did not come together as a unit as in 2012. I was young in 2012 and I was one of the younger ones and I saw the gelling of the team, but here it was not like that. I would not say it was the athletes, I would have to say it was the heads. You need to be able to understand that for a team to be able to perform properly you need to bring them together.”

Walcott, who stunned the world in London in 2012 at the age of 19 when he became the second Trinidadian to win an Olympic gold medal, said the overall environment was bad for everyone.

“It is the environment. When you as a team do not feel everybody is together (it) is like everybody is just concentrating on their own,” he added.

Asked about the pre-Olympic camp organised by the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee, which was designed to bring the team together, Walcott brazenly dismissed that, “Let’s move on,” he said.

Walcott said that people needed to be aware of how tough competition is at the Olympics. “These are the best athletes in the world and people need to understand that.”

Walcott was high in praise for his coach Cuban Ishmael Lopez-Mastrapa. 

“I have so much to be thankful for my coach especially and all my team because my coach has brought me here today. He has worked with me so much I thank him. This is because of him,” said Walcott.

The Toco-born Walcott said he was again very proud of his achievement.

“I am glad that we have a medal for Trinidad and Tobago and hope for support going forward. It is not easy competing against the best, so I just to thank God for that and all he has done and continues to do for me,” said a proud Walcott.

“I am just happy to get a medal. I wanted gold but to be in the top three was good enough. It has been a tough season; not the build-up I would have wanted leading up to these Games but I just kept on trying my best,” said Walcott. 

“I wanted to win four gold medals by 2024, but now I will have to settle for three and that is my goal—to keep improving and to not be concerned by other matters.”
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 22, 2016, 10:06:32 AM
NO UNITY IN RIO

Olympic champion Keshorn Walcott who won T&T’s only medal at the Rio Olympics which ended yesterday, has blasted the lack of team spirit and unity within the T&T camp during the Games.

“We did not do so well as a team this year because honestly, for my part, we were not a team. We did not come together as a unit as in 2012. I was young in 2012 and I was one of the younger ones and I saw the gelling of the team, but here it was not like that. I would not say it was the athletes, I would have to say it was the heads. You need to be able to understand that for a team to be able to perform properly you need to bring them together.”



I suspect had something to do with the Marissa Dick issue, some T&T athletes were harbouring feelings about her selection on the team. Very unfortunate if tis was the case. Olympics come only every four years. A wasted opportunity for them
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: ProudTrinbagonian on August 22, 2016, 11:23:52 AM
NO UNITY IN RIO

Olympic champion Keshorn Walcott who won T&T’s only medal at the Rio Olympics which ended yesterday, has blasted the lack of team spirit and unity within the T&T camp during the Games.

“We did not do so well as a team this year because honestly, for my part, we were not a team. We did not come together as a unit as in 2012. I was young in 2012 and I was one of the younger ones and I saw the gelling of the team, but here it was not like that. I would not say it was the athletes, I would have to say it was the heads. You need to be able to understand that for a team to be able to perform properly you need to bring them together.”



I suspect had something to do with the Marissa Dick issue, some T&T athletes were harbouring feelings about her selection on the team. Very unfortunate if tis was the case. Olympics come only every four years. A wasted opportunity for them

Tell em Keshorn. On social media I saw positive vibes from only a few (specifically Cleo was a joy to follow). On Instagram only Cleo congratulated Keshorn which seemed odd. Something went down. The other athletes were quite active on social media but didn't have much to say to/about Keshorn when he won bronze
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: jason23 on August 22, 2016, 04:38:00 PM
Some of you want to soft-talk this Olympic experience and conclude that all of our athletes did their very best and were just unfortunate. If we accept that, then nothing will change for the better for TTO T&F.

This Olympics was underwhelming, plain and simple - no matter how much lipstick we want to put on the pig.

When you have athletes performing worse at the Olympic Games than they did at TTO Olympic trials, that is a failure. Conditions were no worse, and most likely better at the Rio Olympic stadium (track, wind, competition, etc).

We therefore have to evaluate why not just a few, but a significant measure of our seasoned and professional athletes, receiving elite funding, and resident at world-class training groups in the US could get it so wrong. If we don't then we pissing into the wind.

I for one will not advocate calling athletes by puerile names nor offering up destructive criticism, but when they do not perform up to their capabilities then it begs a question - are they injured, are they fully-fit as they say, did they overtrain, were they mentally prepared, were they properly peaked and tapered, were the OG village accommodations inadequate, was the food in the OG village a cause of any discomfort, etc.

In a news article the team mentioned they had a GREAT camp. I beg to differ.
100m MEN
No one ran even close to their SB, OG trial times, far less their PB, at the Olympic Games, the Olympic Games people - what they all train their lives for. Given that our 100/200m sprinters are aging and in their last OG cycle, if no one comes forward to mention that they are carrying an injury/niggle, etc. then this campaign was a failure in preparation, a failure in peaking or tapering, a failure in judging ones efforts during the rounds - all extremely disappointing for an experienced group.
4x100m MEN
While we competed commendably in the semis, our experienced athletes had a lane or passing zone violation in the final, something that we have been astute enough in the past OGs to prevent. Not one athlete nor designated coach has come forward and owned up as an adult or professional to say, look it was my fault and not my intention, not one person.
4x100m WOMEN
Someone has to speak up about Khalifa St. Fort's underwhelming performance on anchor and why a change was not made. The first indication was in the semis. An 11.16 performer does not get gapped or overtaken by some of our competition (Germany and Nigeria) that hardly has that talent even on their anchor (Okagbare ran the 2nd leg). I have to assume the young lady is not 100%, because no one has voiced up to it.
4x400m MEN
This was a most disappointing result. Lalonde Gordon suffered a mental mishap that as an experienced pro, he should not have, and needs to verbally take responsibility and move on.

Maybe I'm premature here. Maybe once they leave Rio and collect their thoughts they will do so. But all we are hearing is that they all did their very best and the lost opportunities were just misfortunes. That is not what I'd expect from professionals. You are receiving all sorts of financial assistance - explain yourself.

In some of the events, we had athletes meeting the qualifying standards but did not expect medals (110m hurdles, 200m MEN and WOMEN, 400m hurdles WOMEN). Then there was the 400m hurdles MEN (why was Jehue Gordon selected). What, he get a pass because he "in the club"? He was a world champion 3 years ago but has declined (48.7, 49.2, 49.98). it is only recently we are hearing about recovery from surgery.

So to one poster,
YES, we need to revamp the entire approach including marketing, promotion, proper coaching, funding redistribution to improve the appeal and brand of T&F in TTO.
YES, some of us in the forum are actually former TTO junior and senior athletes who have experienced the hamster wheel ourselves, know what we are talking about, and want to see TTO T&F get out of this sad story cycle.

But we keep doing the same crap. Maybe you've heard the recycled story - "A world class talent or 2 comes along every 5-10 years, we ride that/those athletes back, showering them with praise, gifts and resources, like a Nobel Prize recipient, while neglecting the 99%. Then we fool the public with short memories into believing that T&F is on an upswing. When said athlete(s) pass(es) their peak we start to denigrate them and leave them out in the cold, unless they are locally connected, got an education along the way, or decide to stay abroad".

So let's be honest, objective, and analytical here. Achieving sustainable improvement will not come by chance, there is a measure of will, science, expertise, and practicality needed.

my friend, well said indeed. and everything you said is basically my point, but then again im not gonna cry down the athletes, most of them to big and Olympic Seasoned to be getting lambasted for there poor performances from me!! i just hope people see, what needs to be done and do it.
and be held accountable, cause how much Hundred thousand of dollars in they get in elite funding yet,this is what im getting, then they shouldn't be elite but just above average!!
what they should be doing is from the time they reach 32,start parting uh knowledge and training in to coaching in your specific community.
also that 5yr cycle is like a religion in Trinidad and Tobago Sporting culture,
always have to wait for that special talent to say yea i train that, instead of actually making talent sprinters from ordinaries!
i hope i will be doing my part soon, which will be on coaching part!!! and seriously be able to do something with these talent we have here... in the end, we need to start breeding winners in our next Generation to come in sport or culture etc, it needs to be fueled.
and Winners i mean by Mentality!! cause we fail miserably on that when it comes to mental preparations etc . start instilling winning attitudes in kids from ages= 5 to 12 and continue it up in process!!! stop with the let them have fun talk!! which they should by no means!! but still they must be nurtured to take it seriously and use it as a way to the world!! etc
well that's what ill be doing.any how!!!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 22, 2016, 06:43:42 PM
I suspect had something to do with the Marissa Dick issue, some T&T athletes were harbouring feelings about her selection on the team. Very unfortunate if tis was the case. Olympics come only every four years. A wasted opportunity for them

While this could true, I really don't see how this could be a major factor. I had my opinion on the situation. I think the gym fed. are the major culprit in this mess. But Keshorn probably  rightly point to the management not doing certain things to encompass team unity. Our team was small. It not like US, China, Russi, etc. We have 3 yrs before Tokyo. Enough time to turn this paper boat around.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Brownsugar on August 22, 2016, 07:51:54 PM
Hello forumites!!   I reach back!!!  Had a fantastic time.  The semi final game between Brazil and Honduras was the sporting highlight of my trip.  Not the mess Honduras made of themselves, but the atmosphere in the Maracana was electric.  I'm kinda disappointed I didn't get a reason to wave mih flag for a medal at one of the athletic events.  I was already back by the time Keshorn medalled.

The sporting powers that be need to get their act together man geez!!  Overall, I had a great time!!  I almost feeling to got to Tokyo but if I have to fight up with Cartan Global for tickets, eh, eh...not me and dem bandits papa!!

Later forumites!!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 23, 2016, 03:37:12 AM
What hurts is when I look at the medal table for the battle for Caribbean supremacy well the Bahamas normally finish ahead of us in the olympics anyway but when I see Grenada to finishing ahead of us that 1 hurts me.

Yup looks like both Bahamas and Grenada did better than T&T

https://www.facebook.com/myvtv/posts/1238011526217181?pnref=story
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Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on August 23, 2016, 06:07:54 AM
For those who feel hurt that Grenada is above TT ..... tough f....king luck. Who the hell we Trini think we are because dem backward Grenedians cut we arse in the medals race. They learn from Trini, and they doing what it takes to get results on a limited budget. One Caribbean. One Love.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: asylumseeker on August 23, 2016, 06:31:54 AM
What hurts is when I look at the medal table for the battle for Caribbean supremacy well the Bahamas normally finish ahead of us in the olympics anyway but when I see Grenada to finishing ahead of us that 1 hurts me.

Yup looks like both Bahamas and Grenada did better than T&T

https://www.facebook.com/myvtv/posts/1238011526217181?pnref=story
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Kudos to Grenada for having representatives in the decathlon. When are we going to get on board with the same?!
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Socapro on August 23, 2016, 07:54:25 AM
For those who feel hurt that Grenada is above TT ..... tough f....king luck. Who the hell we Trini think we are because dem backward Grenedians cut we arse in the medals race. They learn from Trini, and they doing what it takes to get results on a limited budget. One Caribbean. One Love.

:thumbsup:

At least 25% of the Afro-Trini population have a Grenadian family connection.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Sando prince on August 24, 2016, 05:49:57 PM


Ato Boldon breaks his silence… TTO relay team did not practise together in Rio


If what Ato Boldon said on Wednesday is true, then there must be a serious enquiry into the Trinidad and Tobago camp at the just concluded Rio Olympics.

Speaking on CNC3 on Wednesday, Boldon broke his silence by revealing that the members of the Trinidad and Tobago’s women 4×100 metre relay team never practised together while in Brazil.

Boldon, a four-time Olympic medallist, said when he saw Trinidad and Tobago women team run 42 seconds at the World Championships in 2015 in Beijing, he told them he knew they needed to work harder on their times if they are to medal at the 2016 Olympics. As part of the coaching staff then, he told them not to become complacent as they needed to improve on their times.
Read More; http://ttwhistleblower.com/ato-boldon-breaks-silence-tto-relay-team-not-practise-together-rio/
Title: Ato Boldon breaks his silence… TTO relay team did not practise together in Rio
Post by: Socapro on August 24, 2016, 09:59:50 PM
Just read full article and spotted an error in paragraph 4.
Desiree Henry is a GB sprinter and not a Team TTO sprinter. Semoy Hackett is the athlete who anchored the TTO Women's 4x100m Relay team in Beijing in the final when we set our current national record of 42.03 rather than Desiree Henry so that 4th paragraph should read:
The T&T team at the Beijing World Championships – Kelly-Ann Baptiste, Michelle-Lee Ahye, Reyare Thomas and Semoy Hackett clocked 42.03 to capture bronze.

Ato Boldon breaks his silence… TTO relay team did not practise together in Rio (http://ttwhistleblower.com/ato-boldon-breaks-silence-tto-relay-team-not-practise-together-rio/)
24 Aug 2016 (TTWhistleBlower.com)


If what Ato Boldon said on Wednesday is true, then there must be a serious enquiry into the Trinidad and Tobago camp at the just concluded Rio Olympics.

Speaking on CNC3 on Wednesday, Boldon broke his silence by revealing that the members of the Trinidad and Tobago’s women 4×100 metre relay team never practised together while in Brazil.

Boldon, a four-time Olympic medallist, said when he saw Trinidad and Tobago women team run 42 seconds at the World Championships in 2015 in Beijing, he told them he knew they needed to work harder on their times if they are to medal at the 2016 Olympics. As part of the coaching staff then, he told them not to become complacent as they needed to improve on their times.

The T&T team at the Beijing World Championships – Kelly-Ann Baptiste, Michelle-Lee Ahye, Reyare Thomas, and Desiree Henry clocked 42.03 to capture bronze.

At the Rio Olympics, the team enjoyed its best-ever Olympic finish in a women’s event when Semoy Hackett, Michelle-Lee Ahye, Kelly-Ann Baptiste and 18-year-old Khalifa St Fort combined for the fifth spot in the women’s sprint relay final, the T&T quartet getting the baton round the track in 42.12 seconds. United States won in 41.01, from Jamaica (41.36) and Great Britain (41.77).

Boldon, who coaches St Fort, and is an NBC track announcer, said it was important for the T&T team to improve on the Beijing performance. Despite this, the entire team never practised together for the relay events while at the Olympic Village.

Boldon said a team needed to practice several things if the members are to bring home a medal. He cited the lane infringement of the men’s 4×400 metre relay team. He said the system had broken down and if Trinidad and Tobago have to improve going forward, there must be changes.

“I think we had some bright spots. I think we have, to be honest. I think a lot of the athletes went there and did not perform as they were expected to. There were athletes who could have performed better.

“I don’t think we expected too much. Four years ago in London, we did well, so people say with all these medals in London, maybe we can improve on that total. I was disappointed yes, but you must understand everybody cannot carry the torch forever.

“I was extremely disappointed when the 4×400 men did not make the final because that is not a position we should be in. The system we have in preparing the team, especially in relays, is flawed, if not non-existent. We still believe as a country, we could go and have a thing a month before and gel the team and that is how we compete against the world.

“I don’t want to hear any ole talk from any organisation. Until you can show me, how we going to change in how we prepare for 2020, then is only ole talk. This is not our worst performance. People have short memories. From 1976 when Hasely won to 1996, there was nothing.

“The women were hungry, a lot hungry. The men are starting to age too. The feeder system is failing us. Where are the young male athletes who were supposed to have made that team?

“There are people in power who feel they are doing a good job and this is the way it should be. No, that is not the way it should be. As long as you don’t admit you have a problem, then things will remain the same.

“There has to be a fundamental change in our club system, and how we prepare our team, especially our relay teams. Imagine in 2016, we went to the Olympics with that 4×100 women relay team, without us having a practice with everybody present, ” Boldon declared.

The former T&T sprinter said a number of countries have started to plan for the Tokyo Olympics in 2020. He said the planning must start now, not wait until the Olympics are around the corner.

Another controversy erupted with the T&T team. Dr Ian Hypolite, the team’s Chef de Mission, was missing in action as he was an analyst with ESPN during the athletic segment of the Games.

Neither Hypolite, NAAA’s President Ephraim Serrette, or TTOC President, Brian Lewis, have responded to what Boldon had said.
Title: NAAA boss admits Team TT’s flaws... Plan for Japan must start now
Post by: Socapro on August 24, 2016, 11:37:45 PM
NAAA boss admits Team TT’s flaws
Plan for Japan must start now
(http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2016-08-22/plan-japan-must-start-now)
By Rachael Thomspon-King (T&T Guardian)
Published: Tuesday, August 23, 2016


National Association of Athletic Administrations (NAAA) president Ephraim Serrette believes better systems must be put in place for local athletes to make a mark on the world stage.

He made the comment yesterday as he said he was disappointed with the result of the performances of the majority of Team T&T at the just concluded Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro in Brazil.

Despite having the largest contingent of Olympic athletes ever, many of whom were from the track and field discipline, only javelin thrower Keshorn Walcott got on the podium with a bronze performance.

The overall team’s effort has been much maligned by some quarters of society, with many taking to social media to vent their frustration at the other athletes’ inability to bring home more medals.

Yesterday, Serrette admitted much was expected of the team.

“Expectations were high when you compare how much medals T&T won in Beijing and back in 2012 in London,” he said.

“Track and field gets most of the pressure because it is the one sport that has been bringing medals, so it is expected that people were hoping for more success. But proper systems need to be implemented if we are to compete against world class athletes.”

After winning one gold, one silver and a bronze medal in London, there was hope of more success in Rio in athletics. This time around though the highly favoured sprinters Richard Thompson and Keston Bledman, both former Olympic medallists, and Rondel Sorrillo failed to advance out of the individual semifinal heats in the men’s 100 metres event. They were joined by Emmanuel Callender for the 4x100m relay but the team was disqualified.

“People seem to have forgotten that the 4x100m men finished fourth in London, but won a bronze because a team (Canada) was disqualified and then the American doping issue saw them upgraded to silver,” Serrette said.

The men’s 4x400m relay team of Jarrin Solomon, Lalonde Gordon, Deon Lendore and Machel Cedenio suffered a similar fate, as they were disqualified in their semifinal heat after finishing third. It was later learned that it was due to a lane violation.

Cedenio did well in making it to the final, clocking 44.01 to break the previous national record held by Ian Morris for the past 24 years, but placed fourth. Sprinter Michelle-Lee Ahye took some of the spotlight by reaching both the women’s 100m and 200m finals.

“Let’s put things into context, both Ahye and Cedenio have done much better than last year in their times. Ahye made two finals, placing sixth, and Cedenio broke the national record, finishing behind season competitors who have all ran 43 seconds.”

If T&T wants success, preparation for the Tokyo Olympics must start now, he added.

“The development of T&T athletes must begin now for Tokyo 2020, not in 2019,” said Serrette.

“Japan is hosting and they are making sure that their athletes are at their best when that time comes around. A combination of things need to happen, which include the athletes and coaches for us to be at a better stage at the next Olympics.”

He said local fans must also not compare T&T to Jamaica, since that country has a far better programme which feeds its teams.

“People like to compare us to Jamaica, but Jamaica has a great programme, as well as the British system. Look at GC Foster College in Jamaica that has home-grown, home-trained Jamaican athletes that can compete with the world’s best.

“Our junior system is not transitioning well to senior level. We have basically the same group of relay runners from 2008, so clearly some of them cannot follow through and make a successful transition.”

From here on out, Serrette said, performances at the Games should be analysed and moving forward the association is calling on everyone to get involved.

“I’m speaking overall now. All sporting organisations, the Government and TTOC (T&T Olympic Committee), we need to develop a system to chart a path to 2020.

“To be podium ready, we need to form a track and field national programme.”
Title: PM: Olympic dream still alive
Post by: Socapro on August 24, 2016, 11:59:17 PM
PM: Olympic dream still alive (http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2016-08-21/%E2%80%8Bpm-olympic-dream-still-alive)
Published: Monday, August 22, 2016


The Rio Games is not the end of T&T’s Olympic dream, says Prime Minister Keith Rowley, in his congratulatory message to bronze medallist Keshorn Walcott.

In a statement yesterday, Rowley said while the team may have suffered mixed fortunes in Brazil, the nation can be justifiably proud of our athletes who were able to reach the finals in several disciplines.

“We must also remember that for the first time Trinidad and Tobago also competed in boxing, gymnastics and rowing. Swimming, sailing and cycling also continue to give us hope for medalling in future Olympic Games. This is not the end of our nation’s Olympic dream. It is only the beginning,” the statement said.

In the next four years, the release stated, T&T will shine at Tokyo.

“We have to start our preparations early and the Government stands firmly behind all our athletes. We thank you for your effort and look forward to even better results in Tokyo,” it added.


Singling out Walcott, Rowley said: “I wish to congratulate Keshorn Walcott for winning the bronze medal in the men’s javelin event at Rio 2016. Keshorn and all the members of the Trinidad and Tobago 2016 Olympics Team deserve our congratulations and ongoing support for doing their best at the Rio Games, among a very strong field of international competitors.”

Yesterday, a voice recording on Sport Minister Darryl Smith’s cellphone stated it was “temporarily unavailable” while he did not respond to two emails.

Communications and Public Administration Minister Maxie Cuffie said he preferred that Smith address all questions about Walcott.
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Deeks on July 24, 2017, 05:13:35 PM
What allyuh think about this idea for future Olympics. Saw it in Skycrapercity.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=2014734&page=2

Originally Posted by Nacre View Post

I will take a shot with my crazy idea.

 The reason the Olympics use a four year cycle is that there used to be four ancient games. We can solve the growth of the Olympics by going back to one games per year, with one event per season.

Spring Olympics: team sports (basketball, football, handball, etc)
Summer Olympics: individual sports (athletics, cycling, gymnastics, swimming, etc)
Fall Olympics: ice events (curling, ice skating, ice hockey, etc)
Winter Olympics: snow events (skiing, ski jumping, etc)

 This would . . .
1.reduce the overall size of each of the summer and winter games by about 40%, and thus dramatically decrease the organizing cost for the host city
2.increase revenues for the IOC and sporting federations by hosting events every single year and having more broadcasting rights to sell
3.reduce the construction costs for host cities by roughly 75% (for example if a host city already has 3 arenas, and needs 8 for the summer games and would only need 4 for the spring games the cost would be reduced by 80%)
4.let cities with unsuitable climate or geography host the spring or fall games (such as Melbourne being too cold for the summer games and Minneapolis not having mountains for the winter games)
5.open the games up to far more countries; Portugal cannot possibly manage the current summer Olympics but Lisbon could host a slimmed down games with 40% fewer athletes and events
6.make it easier to accommodate the NHL with a fall event that only pushes back their season a couple of weeks instead of in the middle of the season
7.let the IOC add cricket and/or baseball in spring without causing much burden on the host city



This is a great idea, could work perfectly. Mainly because there would be a way bigger chance all venues could have a longterm use, it would create more money, while costs of single games would go lower, while at similar time more sports could be potentially included long-term.

Spring Olympics - June 2033: team sports played outside: football (with hopeful participation of the best players if it replaces Confederations Cup), rugby, field hockey, water polo, beach volleyball, 3x3 basketball, baseball/softball and potentially cricket, American football, Australian football, ultimate, lacrosse, beach football, ball hockey, tug of war
Summer Olympics - August 2032: individual sports: athletics, gymnastics, cycling, swimming/diving, tennis/racquet sports, golf, weightlifting, combat sports, shooting sports, equestrian, modern pentathlon, triathlon, skateboarding, surfing, sailing, climbing, potentially roller sports, snooker, darts, dance sports, bowling, orienteering; I would not be against including mind sports like chess, draught, bridge or even poker as well
Fall Olympics - September 2031: team sports played inside + motorsport: ice hockey, basketball, volleyball, handball, potentially netball, korfball, slamball, floorball or futsal, could be a spot to include sports like motorsport, motorcycles, speedway or air racing
Winter Olympics - February 2030: winter sports: skiing, snowboarding, skating, biathlon, bobsleigh, luge, curling, potentially include bandy (in ceremony stadium), downhill skating, cyclocross or cross country running

 What would be needed to host games:•Spring Olympics would need 6 football/rugby stadiums with a need to build a venue for baseball and temporary stadiums for field hockey and water polo
•Summer Olympics would need an athletic stadium, one bigger arena for gymnastics and weightlifting, a velodrome, a shooting centre, an acquatics centre, a course for water slalom and rowing, a tennis centre, a golf course, BMX/MTB centre, a place for sailing/surfing, and a few smaller arenas for combat sports, badminton or table tennis, these all are usually temporary, an exhibition centre is usually used
•Fall Olympics would need 4 indoor arenas + potentially a venue for ceremonies or other small arenas for smaller sports and potentially a racing circuit
•Winter Olympics would need what they need right now with the exception of two indoor arenas for ice hockey

TL,DR in other words:
 - change Summer Olympics into just something like bigger Commonwealth Games
 - take away ice hockey from Winter Olympics because of the NHL and to lower the costs
 - create Spring Olympics around current FIFA Confederations Cup with the participation of the best football players, include rugby, etc. - it would be held in a country more than only in one city
 - create Fall Olympics around 4 biggest indoor team sports - basketball, ice hockey, volleyball and handball + include motorsport, motorcycles and air sport with a competition for the best drivers/riders/pilots; ideally allow co-hosting between two cities to lower costs - then one city gets opening and the other one closing ceremony
Title: Re: IOC Rio 2016 Olympics: Fri.5th~Sun.21st Aug 2016 (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
Post by: Flex on February 26, 2021, 01:40:40 AM
Thema's ex-coach dies by suicide after charges in US
ANDREW GIOANNETTI (T&T NEWSDAY).


JOHN Geddert, former coach to the US gymnastics team, and former personal trainer to T&T's gymnast Thema Williams, has died by suicide.

Geddert was discovered dead just hours after he was slapped with two dozen criminal charges. The 63-year-old was accused of human trafficking, forced labour and sexual misconduct, among other crimes.

In a statement, Michigan state attorney general Dana Nessel said, "My office has been notified that the body of John Geddert was found late this afternoon after taking his own life. This is a tragic end to a tragic story for everyone involved."

"These allegations," Nessel said, "focus around multiple acts of verbal, physical and sexual abuse perpetrated by the defendant against multiple young women. I am grateful for these survivors coming forward to cooperate with our investigation and for bravely sharing their stories."

Geddert served as head coach for the 2012 US women's Olympic gymnastics team, winners of the team gold medal in London.

He is said to have had a personal and professional relationship for over 25 years with disgraced former US national team physician Larry Nassar, who is convicted of dozens of sexual abuse cases, was sentenced to a maximum of 175 years in prison. Over 150 survivors and family members reportedly testified against him.

Geddert coached Williams, leading up to the Rio 2016 Olympic Games while she was based at his club Twistars in Michigan for about a year.

Williams, however, was not selected by the TT Gymnastics Federation for the Olympics, a decision the TTGF made after receiving a report from Geddert.

He slammed the local governing body for its decision, saying his concerns about her fitness were taken out of context and insisting she was physically fine.

Instead, Marisa Dick, who was born and raised in Canada, was granted the Olympic spot, drawing public condemnation, as many considered Williams to be the more talented and prepared of the two athletes.

Newsday reached out to Williams, on Thursday, but she did not want to comment.

Williams previously declined to speak with the media about the then allegations against Geddert. He had not yet charged when he was suspended by USA Gymnastics, in 2018, pending further investigations.

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