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Sports => Football => Topic started by: asylumseeker on July 12, 2015, 01:12:00 PM
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Date: Monday, July 13th at 5:35pm EST
Venue: Hamilton Stadium, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Competition: Pan American Games
LIVE STREAM: http://www.futbolandres.com/p/futbolandres.html#www.rojadirecta.me
Trinidad & Tobago squad
To be confirmed.
Coach: Zoran Vraneš
Uruguay squad:
Goalkeepers:
Guillermo De Amores (Liverpool), Gastón Guruceaga (Peńarol)
Defenders:
Sebastián Gorga (Nacional), Fabricio Formiliano (Danubio), Mauricio Lemos (Defensor Sporting), Erick Cabaco (Rentistas), Mathías Suárez (Defensor Sporting), Federico Ricca (Danubio)
Midfielders:
Mauro Arambarri (Defensor Sporting), Nahitan Nández (Peńarol), Matías Santos (Wanderers), Andrés Schettino (Fénix), Facundo Castro (Defensor Sporting), Brian Lozano (Defensor Sporting), Ignacio González (Danubio)
Forwards: Nicolás Albarracín (Wanderers), Michael Santos (River Plate), Junior Arias (Liverpool).
Coach: Fabián Coito
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The URU squad includes 7 players from the recently concluded U20 WC in New Zealand. Uruguay lost to Brazil (5-4 on penalties) in the Round of 16 after playing 120 minutes of football. The skipper of that team (Nández), and Arrambarri and Lemos were mainstays of that squad. Coito also coached the U20s.
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The URU squad includes 7 players from the recently concluded U20 WC in New Zealand. Uruguay lost to Brazil (5-4 on penalties) in the Round of 16 after playing 120 minutes of football. The skipper of that team (Nández), and Arrambarri and Lemos were mainstays of that squad. Coito also coached the U20s.
This looks like a tough one, I see they have 2 players from Liverpool, 1 from River Plate and I'm guessing Defensor Sporting is a big club in Uruguay?
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The URU squad includes 7 players from the recently concluded U20 WC in New Zealand. Uruguay lost to Brazil (5-4 on penalties) in the Round of 16 after playing 120 minutes of football. The skipper of that team (Nández), and Arrambarri and Lemos were mainstays of that squad. Coito also coached the U20s.
This looks like a tough one, I see they have 2 players from Liverpool, 1 from River Plate and I'm guessing Defensor Sporting is a big club in Uruguay?
Defensor is the youth factory of Uruguay. But, my bad ... I didn't clarify that Liverpool and River Plate are Uruguayan clubs. There's obviously RP in Argentina but on the other side of the Rio de la Plata that divides both countries, there's another RP.
The local Liverpool harkens back to those roving Englishmen who had a presence in the country way back when. Nonetheless, these fellas can ball. It's not the strongest URU squad in the sense that a player like Diego Rolan age qualifies but isn't included because he's on the MNT. We should be prepared to rock and roll from 1'. These guys have something to prove. Nández especially is a midfield presence in national team colors.
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Very odd that on a T&T football website, the Uruguayan squad can be named but the T&T squad "not confirmed"...even up to match day
No attack or blame being assigned to the originator of the thread (just in case there's nay misunderstanding)
Just that it's a sad indicator of the state of our football
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Very odd that on a T&T football website, the Uruguayan squad can be named but the T&T squad "not confirmed"...even up to match day
No attack or blame being assigned to the originator of the thread (just in case there's nay misunderstanding)
Just that it's a sad indicator of the state of our football
No offence taken. You actually express my feeling on the matter. With all the additions and subtractions from the squad due to visa issues, eligibility, availability etc., I couldn't state with any confidence who dey or who eh dey. There seems to have been variance from the official list released on June 29.
SMH. The closest thing to being authoritative that I've seen is an article by Lasana ... but even that requires inferring who dey and who not.
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wow we down 1 nil keeper came and did not get the ball
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We still cannot produce a decent youth keeper.
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Uru just scored 1-0. Corner kick. GK went up and failed to punch the ball. The ball fell in the area and a Uru. player got his foot to it.
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wow we have not put pass together
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we under so much pressure
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What yuh ketching it on?
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http://panam.cbc.ca/videos/live/video/soccer-mens-1730-570295.html
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TT starting team
Trinidad and Tobago
18 SAMPLE Johan Goalkeeper
2 GOMEZ Shannon Defender
3 FORD Maurice Defender
4 PEREZ Jesus Defender
6 HACKSHAW Neveal Midfielder
8 HODGE Triston Midfielder
9 GARCIA Nathanial Midfielder
10 MUCKETTE Duane Midfielder
13 JOHN Ricardo Forward
15 BENJAMIN Neil Midfielder
16 JONES Alvin Defender
Substitutes
1 JOSEPH Montel Goalkeeper
5 HOLMES Dario Defender
7 WILLIAMS Jomal Forward
11 HENRY Shackiel Forward
12 RAJPAUL Xavier Midfielder
14 FELIX Jelani Midfielder
17 ANDREWS Aikim Midfielder
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2 nil
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2-0. Corner kick again.
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John has been the only thing positive so far
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Neval HACKSHAW is playing on the wing /forward and he is a holding mid ahhhh this vranes coach man .... and other corner damm it
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We still cannot produce a decent youth keeper.
Well we have dat Ranjitsingh fella, but me eh know if anybody ever call him.
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3 nil wow sample is attached to pro league club right!!!!!
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what happen to welch ....
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players are out of position !!!
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We still cannot produce a decent youth keeper.
Well we have dat Ranjitsingh fella, but me eh know if anybody ever call him.
I've seen enough of Sample already the last shot was good but saveable.
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Thanks, Trini_2018.
Cyah get ah link to wuk ... From wha allyuh reporting, slaughter in progress. Still hoping to be ah witness to de crime doh.
Any other links?
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Coach has to take a big chunk of blame, these fellahs playing as if they never practiced defending a set piece before.
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For those in the US espn.go.com/watchespn
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what happen to welch ....
:rotfl: It come to dat now eh ... wanting Welch. Last I remember, ppl were attacking him. That is, when he wasn't needlessly travelling to Puerto Rico etc.
Maybe he's stuck at Pearson waiting for Manage to pick him up. Having prolly received a text from Manage to that effect. Wha yuh go do? In these parts, yuh hadda laugh.
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Is like men against boys. Need I say more.
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i am done looking at this later s ..............
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3-0 @half
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What about Jesus Perez? How he looking?
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3 corners...3 goals...no AGGRESSION " defending the corners/set plays ..
but happy these guys getting 3 matches vz top quality teams...they would not get those matches any other way...
MUKETTE ...depending on his next move ( club )...would be a great addition to the senior team.
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Listening on the radio. Tune-in. We just had a chance on goal.
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Great effort to save the 4th from scoring.
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What about Jesus Perez? How he looking?
The whole team looking poor. It's hard to distinguish between players from the first half. John was the only player that caught my eye and that's primarily because he's working hard.
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One of our players injured ... and being treated by URU medical staff.
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Dario Holmes have a big belly...wth
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Is Holmes related to Larry. He built like a boxer.
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Did the coach Zoran Vraneš make any positive changes in the half time break?
Team seems to be defending in the same clueless manner.
How long has Zoran Vraneš been working with this team?
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just started watching. had a couple chances on goal. then they had to red card foul uruguay to stop a 4th goal on the other end.
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Muckette did some shit there. ........ Alvin Jones get red card.
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Muckette did some shit there. ........ Alvin Jones get red card.
Yep was just coming to say that. Jones took one for the team.
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These commentators jes say ... we're so poor, it's confounding how we produced Yorke. SMH!
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How come the Uruguay guy eh get red.
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Why is Sample on our national team? Matter of fact why is he out starting u23 goalie?
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Now they're so bored they running a trivia question: which Trini-born NBA player played for Houston ... (The obligatory Yorke trivia now done and dusted).
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Did the coach Zoran Vraneš make any positive changes in the half time break?
Team seems to be defending in the same clueless manner.
How long has Zoran Vraneš been working with this team?
Not sure regarding this tournament, but there was a report saying some of the players he worked with couldn't travel to PR. Not sure how many are on this trip.
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Ref that is a good tackle ..... But goal number 4.
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4-0. Brian Lozano (URU)
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4
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This T&T team looking real lost out there on the field. Fellas out of position...making careless passes...and looking like they nervous and intimidated by the Uruguayan jersies.
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Take de slaughter today to appease de football gods tomorrow (like during de Gold Cup quarterfinals).
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We still cannot produce a decent youth keeper.
Well we have dat Ranjitsingh fella, but me eh know if anybody ever call him.
The starting keeper should have been Aaron Enil from Jabloteh.
But they wanted a scapegoat for the U23 losing in the last tournament (same one where we had problems with visas and half the team reached with the other half reaching a day or 2 before the game)
we get a cut ass in the first game n they cut him apparently
n call up the next fella who is on the bench in this game. Some foreign based fella
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MUKETTE ...depending on his next move ( club )...would be a great addition to the senior team.
Is he one of the guys going on try-out after the tournament?
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How long has Zoran Vraneš been working with this team?
Yes, the team played badly, but we to give the coach a little bit of slack here. With all the bachanal that they had for PR and all the changing players, these guys don't seem settled. They still looking like U-19 in their thinking. Did some on the guys from Uru played in the recent WC in NZ about a month ago? it shows. They show so much confidence with the ball. Appears to always have a man free. Our guys don't have it. As yet. atleast?
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Vranes expecting better showing in remaining Pan Am matches.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).
Despite losing their opening match 4-0 to Uruguay at the ongoing Pan American Games on Monday, Trinidad and Tobago Men’s Under 23 head coach Zoran Vranes is backing his team to come back strongly in their remaining matches against Paraguay and Mexico.
T&T found it difficult to match their South American opponents at the Hamilton Pan American Stadium.
Fabricia Duarte opened the scoring in the 5th minute after goalkeeper Javon Sample failed to claim on a corner kick.
Uruguay would double their lead in the 20th when Fererico Ricca headed home from a corner. Nicolas Albarracin then struck a good one which beat Sample to put Uruguay 3-0 ahead on the half hour mark.
Alvin Jones, who would later be ejected in the 59th minute, came closest for T&T with a deflected effort before the break.
Brian Lozano then completed the rout with a free kick strike in the 68th minute.
T&T got more into the match after the break and started to see a bit more of the ball but there was not much offering to trouble Uruguay on the day.
Vranes conceded that his opponents were too much over the 90 minutes.
“We faced very strong opponents and they very inspired,” Vranes told TTFA Media.
“Their team has a lot of experience and with players from the Under 20 World Cup. We were missing some key players like Corbin and Winchester who are with the senior team. But it was a good exercise because these are the level of matches that will be good for the players at this age.
“We are getting a good period together here with the training and of course these matches will come in very good for us. Hopefully the team can grow and the players will benefit from it. I expect we will give a better showing in the next two matches,” Vranes added.
Paraguay and Mexico drew 1-1 in the other Group B game on Monday while Brazil defeated Canada 4-1 and Panama beat Peru 2-1 a day earlier in Group A action.
T&T’s Men will face Paraguay on Friday while the Women take on Colombia on Tuesday in Hamilton.
Results
Uruguay 4 v T&T 0
Formiliano 6
Ricca 20
Albarracin 31
Lozano 69
Teams
Trinidad & Tobago: - 18.Jovan Sample; 2.Shannon Gomez (Yellow 88), 16.Alvin Jones (capt) [Red Card 59], 3.Maurice Ford (5.Dario Holmes 54th), 4.Jesus Perez, 8.Tristan Hodge; 15.Neil Benjamin Jr. (17.Aikim Andrews 37th), 10.Duane Muckette (12.Xavier Rajpaul 73rd), 9.Nathaniel Garcia (Yellow 69), 6.Neveal Hackshaw; 13.Ricardo John.
Unused substitutes: - 1.Montell Joseph (GK), 7.Jomal Williams, 11.Shackiel Henry, 14.Jelani Felix.
Coach: - Zoran Vranes.
Uruguay: - 1.Guillermo De Amores; 2.Sebastian Gorga (Yellow 62) (4.Paolo Lemos 73rd), 3.Federico Ricca, 5.Edgardo Schetino (11.Juan Gonzalez 73rd), 6.Fabricio Formiliano (capt), 9.Junior Arias, 10.Michael Santos, 15.Fernando Gorriaran, 16.Nicolas Albarracin (7.Facundo Castro 79th), 17.Mathias Suarez, 18.Brian Lozano.
Coach: - Fabián Machado.
Referee: - Oscar Reyna (Guatemala).
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I have a standing invitation to bring a player or two to Uruguay. After today who knows...
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I have a standing invitation to bring a player or two to Uruguay. After today who knows...
explain ?
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I have a standing invitation to bring a player or two to Uruguay. After today who knows...
explain ?
Perception is impactful. Of course it won't affect my direct interaction because these individuals understand that football talent is global and individual. BUT, there is a narrative about our players that is much of our undoing ... and episodes like today don't help in terms of what is viewed as our best product.
Listening to this game, I was cringing. Young players in Uruguay have a VERY, VERY professional disposition even at 14/15, and this builds culturally through each age group. Each year there's an evaluation of whether a player gets to stay with the club or gets cut and the players approach their matches and training with a business-like approach that demonstrates immense maturity. Any player seeking to enter that environment from outside can't be [considered] amateurish or naive. And that's how we were depicted today. Who seriously needs an injection of that into a culturally professional environment with many already gifted players?
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How long has Zoran Vraneš been working with this team?
Yes, the team played badly, but we to give the coach a little bit of slack here. With all the bachanal that they had for PR and all the changing players, these guys don't seem settled. They still looking like U-19 in their thinking. Did some on the guys from Uru played in the recent WC in NZ about a month ago? it shows. They show so much confidence with the ball. Appears to always have a man free. Our guys don't have it. As yet. atleast?
st vincent had the same problems
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None of the U20 players started this game, but 2 entered as subs. We were playing full pros. Off the top, a couple might have been on the 2013 U20 squad that finished second in Turkey. For instance, if memory serves, the goalie was on that squad.
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None of the U20 players started this game, but 2 entered as subs. We were playing full pros. Off the top, a couple might have been on the 2013 U20 squad that finished second in Turkey. For instance, if memory serves, the goalie was on that squad.
under 20 players .... ford, perez, ricardo john, gomez, hacksaw, andrews,
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How long has Zoran Vraneš been working with this team?
Think he started at the start of June aiming for a tournament in August and then TTFF said Olympic qualifiers were in June. Then the visa fiasco and the team change about 5 times...then more drama with the names registered by TTOC and players being withdrawn and replaced. So we really not sure how long he has had the group that in Canada now.
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None of the U20 players started this game, but 2 entered as subs. We were playing full pros. Off the top, a couple might have been on the 2013 U20 squad that finished second in Turkey. For instance, if memory serves, the goalie was on that squad.
under 20 players .... ford, perez, ricardo john, gomez, hacksaw, andrews,
Was referring to the Uruguayans in response to something Deeks mentioned.
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Yes, the team played badly, but we to give the coach a little bit of slack here. With all the bachanal that they had for PR and all the changing players, these guys don't seem settled. They still looking like U-19 in their thinking. Did some on the guys from Uru played in the recent WC in NZ about a month ago? it shows. They show so much confidence with the ball. Appears to always have a man free. Our guys don't have it. As yet. atleast?
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HIGHLIGHTS of Trinidad and Tobago 4-0 loss to Uruguay at the 2015 Pan Am Games
https://www.youtube.com/v/tXH38e-OmsU
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Paraguay and Mexico hadda be salivating.
Is Sample still a Central player?
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THE LAST TIME THEY MET A SOUTH AMERICAN SIDE in PANAM.
How time has change
https://vimeo.com/31026034