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Title: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Flex on July 28, 2015, 03:19:23 PM
As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on the 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifying T&T vs USA game in USA on the 6th of September 2016 will be posted here, this way, we can maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.

For the internet users, you can follow the game at:

To be updated.

Possible Online Streams.

To be updated.

Possible TV Station.

USA: Fox Sports 1 and Unimas

Trinidad & Tobago Squad

Goalkeepers

Greg Ranjitsingh (Louisville City FC—US), Marvin Phillip (Morvant Caledonia United), Adrian Foncette (Police).

Defenders

Aubrey David (FC Dallas—US), Daneil Cyrus (W Connection), Radanfah Abu Bakr (JK Silame Kalev—Estonia), Sheldon Bateau (KC Krylia Sovetov—Russia), Yohance Marshall (Murcielagos FC—Mexico), Mekeil Williams (Colorado Rapids—USA), Carlyle Mitchell (Seoul E Land—Korea Republic).

Midfielders

Andre Boucaud (Dagenham & Redbridge—England), Khaleem Hyland (KV Westerlo—Belgium), Hughtun Hector (W Connection), Neveal Hackshaw (Charleston Battery—USA), Kevan George (Jackson Armada FC—US), Levi Garcia (AZ Alkmaar—Netherlands), Jomal Williams (Murcielagos FC—Mexico), Kevin Molino (Orlando City—US), Cordell Cato (San Jose Earthquakes—US), Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders—US).

Forwards

Shahdon Winchester (Murcielagos FC—Mexico), Kenwyne Jones (Central FC), Trevin Caesar (Orange County Blues—US).

Coach - Stephen Hart.

USA Squad

Goalkeepers

Brad Guzan (Middlesbrough), Ethan Horvath (Molde FC),
Tim Howard (Colorado Rapids)
.

Defenders

Kellyn Acosta (FC Dallas), Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City), Steve Birnbaum (D.C. United), John Brooks (Hertha BSC), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City), Omar Gonzalez (Pachuca), Fabian Johnson (Borussia Monchengladbach), Michael Orozco (Club Tijuana), DeAndre Yedlin (Newcastle).

Midfielders

Paul Arriola (Club Tijuana), Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), Alejandro Bedoya (Philadelphia Union), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC), Jermaine Jones (Colorado Rapids), Darlington Nagbe (Portland Timbers), Christian Pulisic (Borussia Dortmund), Caleb Stanko (FC Vaduz), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City)
.

Forwards

Jozy Altidore (Toronto FC), Jordan Morris (Seattle Sounders FC), Rubio Rubin (FC Utrecht), Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes), Bobby Wood (Hamburg SV).

Coach - To be updated.


Updates to follow as we get more info, so keep checking back.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on June 22, 2016, 10:06:08 PM
Tickets go on sale to the general public on Friday, June 24th at 10:00am (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/220050D5A0B094BF)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on June 22, 2016, 10:25:23 PM
Do we have a section?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on June 23, 2016, 06:44:13 AM
Do we have a section?

Guess we just need to choose one. American Outlaws will be in section 147.

(http://www.ussoccer.com/~/media/files/tickets/stadiums/2016/160906-mnt-tto-jacksonville.png)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: kounty on June 23, 2016, 08:08:38 AM
well we go take 148 den  :D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on June 23, 2016, 08:55:04 AM
Tickets go on sale to the general public on Friday, June 24th at 10:00am (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/220050D5A0B094BF)

You can purchase presale tickets right now by using the promo codes J6DRIVE or J6JAGS.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: palos on June 23, 2016, 11:23:37 AM
Natural grass field ......nice
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Thomo on June 23, 2016, 11:56:34 AM
Ah know it kinda early to be talking about the final squad and preferences etc but I pray Hart calls up Greg Ramjitsingh for these games. Lord know we a safe(r) pair of hands on deck. He has a T&T passport, young (22, DOB 18/07/93) and plays at a higher level than our current custodians and is first choice keeper at his club. Plus when you compare his physique to Williams and Phillips them fellas look overweight. Guatemala will be coming all guns blazing wid dey tails in de air looking for blood and the USA will want to take control and show who is boss on their home turf. We must be ready and explore all options to safeguard our passage into the next rounds!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: palos on June 23, 2016, 12:59:32 PM
Ah know it kinda early to be talking about the final squad and preferences etc but I pray Hart calls up Greg Ramjitsingh for these games. Lord know we a safe(r) pair of hands on deck. He has a T&T passport, young (22, DOB 18/07/93) and plays at a higher level than our current custodians and is first choice keeper at his club. Plus when you compare his physique to Williams and Phillips them fellas look overweight. Guatemala will be coming all guns blazing wid dey tails in de air looking for blood and the USA will want to take control and show who is boss on their home turf. We must be ready and explore all options to safeguard our passage into the next rounds!!

What if Greg NOT better than Marvin Williams?  You really want to use a World Cup Qualifier to find out?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on June 23, 2016, 01:02:08 PM
Ah know it kinda early to be talking about the final squad and preferences etc but I pray Hart calls up Greg Ramjitsingh for these games. Lord know we a safe(r) pair of hands on deck. He has a T&T passport, young (22, DOB 18/07/93) and plays at a higher level than our current custodians and is first choice keeper at his club. Plus when you compare his physique to Williams and Phillips them fellas look overweight. Guatemala will be coming all guns blazing wid dey tails in de air looking for blood and the USA will want to take control and show who is boss on their home turf. We must be ready and explore all options to safeguard our passage into the next rounds!!

This is a WORLD CUP QUALIFIER, this is not a friendly. This is NOT the time to be trying out new goalkeepers who never played for TnT in the past.
.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: kiffysmooth on June 23, 2016, 01:23:09 PM
send Hart a text bout d youth and see what he say
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: E-man on June 23, 2016, 02:15:50 PM
Tickets go on sale to the general public on Friday, June 24th at 10:00am (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/220050D5A0B094BF)

PRESALE INFO:

 2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifier Semifinal Round

Below are details to purchase tickets during the general presale window for the following upcoming match.

MNT vs. Trinidad & Tobago
2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifier - Semifinal Round
EverBank Field
Jacksonville, Florida
Tuesday, September 6
Kickoff: TBD

U.S. Soccer General Presale
Begins Thursday, June 23 at 10 a.m. ET and ends Friday, June 24 at 8 a.m. ET. All tickets will be sold on a first-come, first-served basis.

Use the code J6BOLD to purchase tickets.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: weary1969 on June 23, 2016, 05:18:50 PM
Eman like yuh making the trip?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: kounty on June 23, 2016, 06:11:37 PM
Tickets go on sale to the general public on Friday, June 24th at 10:00am (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/220050D5A0B094BF)

PRESALE INFO:

 2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifier Semifinal Round

Below are details to purchase tickets during the general presale window for the following upcoming match.

MNT vs. Trinidad & Tobago
2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifier - Semifinal Round
EverBank Field
Jacksonville, Florida
Tuesday, September 6
Kickoff: TBD

U.S. Soccer General Presale
Begins Thursday, June 23 at 10 a.m. ET and ends Friday, June 24 at 8 a.m. ET. All tickets will be sold on a first-come, first-served basis.

Use the code J6BOLD to purchase tickets.


It don't look like you could choose the exact section that ticketmaster coming up with. Any ideas on having Trinis more or less in a similar area?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: E-man on June 25, 2016, 11:46:31 AM
Tickets go on sale to the general public on Friday, June 24th at 10:00am (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/220050D5A0B094BF)

PRESALE INFO:

 2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifier Semifinal Round

Below are details to purchase tickets during the general presale window for the following upcoming match.

MNT vs. Trinidad & Tobago
2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifier - Semifinal Round
EverBank Field
Jacksonville, Florida
Tuesday, September 6
Kickoff: TBD

U.S. Soccer General Presale
Begins Thursday, June 23 at 10 a.m. ET and ends Friday, June 24 at 8 a.m. ET. All tickets will be sold on a first-come, first-served basis.

Use the code J6BOLD to purchase tickets.


It don't look like you could choose the exact section that ticketmaster coming up with. Any ideas on having Trinis more or less in a similar area?

The interactive seat map isn't always available
http://help.ticketmaster.com/why-is-an-interactive-seat-map-not-available-for-my-event/

The resale tickets on stubhub let you choose though, and I suppose ticketmaster will enable resale at some point
http://www.stubhub.com/us-mens-national-team-tickets-9607969/event/9607969/?mbox=1&abbyo=true&rS=0&qtyq=false&sliderpos=false
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: kounty on June 28, 2016, 11:15:39 PM
Do we have a section?

Guess we just need to choose one. American Outlaws will be in section 147.

(http://www.ussoccer.com/~/media/files/tickets/stadiums/2016/160906-mnt-tto-jacksonville.png)
In all seriousness I think we should try for the opposite end somewhere between 113-125 depending on people taste.  I assuming the sun still sets in the west so the sun wouldn't be in we eyes. Anybody been to this stadium before and have any better advice on the seating? Anybody who organize a section before in the US have any input on which section you all choose in the past and a recommendation for suggesting a section to get the best vibes? I lookin to get tickets soon while the prices still low.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: watch de ride on June 29, 2016, 11:34:16 PM
Can someone decide on a Section? It would be nice to be in a group to support our Team. I'm thinking behind the goal 121-125.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on June 30, 2016, 08:27:06 AM
We should go in 124, directly across from the Outlaws.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: kounty on June 30, 2016, 02:11:37 PM
Can someone decide on a Section? It would be nice to be in a group to support our Team. I'm thinking behind the goal 121-125.
alright. this is what it look like
https://www.youtube.com/v/ygn0O-L1xgE
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 30, 2016, 02:49:24 PM
Has anyone purchased in the 120s yet?

Really would be easier if these things were agreed between the principals.

EDIT: I only now decide to look at the map. That behind the goal thing won't be attractive to de purists. Nuff ppl sure to want a standard view of the match.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: watch de ride on July 01, 2016, 01:20:59 PM
Padna ah doh have ah problem wit dat! If yuh say lewwe sit on de roof....ah going! Ah jus want to be wit meh ppl.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Brownsugar on July 01, 2016, 01:25:18 PM
Padna ah doh have ah problem wit dat! If yuh say lewwe sit on de roof....ah going! Ah jus want to be wit meh ppl.

Reminds me of a song...... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=182ydP1ktt0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=182ydP1ktt0)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: MEP on July 02, 2016, 04:09:49 PM
We should go in 124, directly across from the Outlaws.
or 146 and 148....I go start de fight
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on July 05, 2016, 03:54:08 AM
Padna ah doh have ah problem wit dat! If yuh say lewwe sit on de roof....ah going! Ah jus want to be wit meh ppl.

Reminds me of a song...... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=182ydP1ktt0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=182ydP1ktt0)

dais ah big tune dey  :)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: kounty on July 29, 2016, 01:22:02 PM
well ah jus get some tickets in we section and see that they more than half sold out (b/c they is among the cheapest)... I really hope trinis come and sit in the section and is not a set ah yanks.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: College on July 31, 2016, 04:56:25 PM
Any definite word on what section we een
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on July 31, 2016, 09:13:36 PM
Any definite word on what section we een

There is a group of about 70 supporters in section 103.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Flex on August 28, 2016, 01:20:29 PM
Here's the full squad:

Goalkeepers: Brad Guzan (Middlesbrough), Ethan Horvath (Molde FC),
Tim Howard (Colorado Rapids)


Defenders: Kellyn Acosta (FC Dallas), Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City), Steve Birnbaum (D.C. United), John Brooks (Hertha BSC), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City), Omar Gonzalez (Pachuca), Fabian Johnson (Borussia Monchengladbach), Michael Orozco (Club Tijuana), DeAndre Yedlin (Newcastle)

Midfielders: Paul Arriola (Club Tijuana), Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), Alejandro Bedoya (Philadelphia Union), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC), Jermaine Jones (Colorado Rapids), Darlington Nagbe (Portland Timbers), Christian Pulisic (Borussia Dortmund), Caleb Stanko (FC Vaduz), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City)


Forwards: Jozy Altidore (Toronto FC), Jordan Morris (Seattle Sounders FC), Rubio Rubin (FC Utrecht), Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes), Bobby Wood (Hamburg SV)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Brownsugar on August 28, 2016, 07:17:51 PM
Any definite word on what section we een

There is a group of about 70 supporters in section 103.

Hee hee hee.......after all the back and forth over section 140 something and 120 something, men say screw it......and gone in 103..... ;D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: andremartinsc on August 29, 2016, 11:02:13 AM
I really really hope you guys win that match. I see a lot of Americans underestimating T&T.
Your national team is good. Almost the entire XI is composed by starters in MLS or European leagues. I guess people didn't notice how good T&T looks right now in CONCACAF level.

Can't wait to see you guys winning!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on August 29, 2016, 01:37:48 PM
I really really hope you guys win that match. I see a lot of Americans underestimating T&T.
Your national team is good. Almost the entire XI is composed by starters in MLS or European leagues. I guess people didn't notice how good T&T looks right now in CONCACAF level.

Can't wait to see you guys winning!!
If......no when we get over the Guatemala hurdle, really hope we try to rip the US on their patch

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: andremartinsc on August 30, 2016, 06:57:01 AM
Who do you guys think is gonna start on the next matches?

I think Hart will prefer to start a 4-2-3-1 against Guatemala, and maybe a defensive 5-4-1 against US?

I don't watch the Trinidadian league and some of the players, but based on what I know from each one, that's what I'm expecting:

4-2-3-1
Phillip? I don't know the GKs
Williams-Marshall-Bateau-David
------Hyland-Boucaud
----Cato-Molino-Joevin
--------Kenwyne

I was expecting Bostock to play so Molino would be the RM and Bostock the CAM.
And I'm not sure about Cato but Levi Garcia plays only on the left side, the same as Joevin Jones, so still unsure if he will get the start.


5-4-1
Phillip? I don't know the GKs
Williams-Marshall-Bateau-AbuBakr-David
-------------Hyland-Boucaud
Molino-------------------------------Joevin
----------------Kenwyne
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on August 30, 2016, 09:07:50 AM
total agree with your lineups amc
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on August 31, 2016, 07:56:51 PM
Key USA players who will be missing:

Clint Dempsey - Irregular heartbeat
Jermaine Jones - Knee injury
John Brooks - Back injury
Gyasi Zardes - Broken fifth metatarsal in his right foot
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on August 31, 2016, 09:30:09 PM
Who do you guys think is gonna start on the next matches?

I think Hart will prefer to start a 4-2-3-1 against Guatemala, and maybe a defensive 5-4-1 against US?

I don't watch the Trinidadian league and some of the players, but based on what I know from each one, that's what I'm expecting:

4-2-3-1
Phillip? I don't know the GKs
Williams-Marshall-Bateau-David
------Hyland-Boucaud
----Cato-Molino-Joevin
--------Kenwyne

I was expecting Bostock to play so Molino would be the RM and Bostock the CAM.
And I'm not sure about Cato but Levi Garcia plays only on the left side, the same as Joevin Jones, so still unsure if he will get the start.


5-4-1
Phillip? I don't know the GKs
Williams-Marshall-Bateau-AbuBakr-David
-------------Hyland-Boucaud
Molino-------------------------------Joevin
----------------Kenwyne

--------
I think we'll play a 4231 against Guatemala. Suspect Levi will start on the left wing with Joevin on the right like against SVG.

That result would determine how we play the US. That said I don't recall Hart ever playing a back 5 moreso a flat 5. Probably because it doesn't maximize our counter attacking speed. If he's going to play 5 I think you'd have at least 1 wing back. Joevin could fit this role. I could see this being an option and slot Levi ahead of him. That might be a nice wrinkle that they may not expect.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on September 01, 2016, 09:19:19 AM
Key USA players who will be missing:

Clint Dempsey - Irregular heartbeat
Jermaine Jones - Knee injury
John Brooks - Back injury
Gyasi Zardes - Broken fifth metatarsal in his right foot

The US has a lot of depth. But those are key players who have been in the national set up regularly..

I smell an upset in SVG!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on September 01, 2016, 09:45:59 AM
Key USA players who will be missing:

Clint Dempsey - Irregular heartbeat
Jermaine Jones - Knee injury
John Brooks - Back injury
Gyasi Zardes - Broken fifth metatarsal in his right foot

The US has a lot of depth. But those are key players who have been in the national set up regularly..

I smell an upset in SVG!

Well Boy! If SVG manage to pull off a Coup against US, Trini should supply dem with FREE OIL for a year as a Thank you!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 01, 2016, 10:23:08 AM
Key USA players who will be missing:

Clint Dempsey - Irregular heartbeat
Jermaine Jones - Knee injury
John Brooks - Back injury
Gyasi Zardes - Broken fifth metatarsal in his right foot

The US has a lot of depth. But those are key players who have been in the national set up regularly..

I smell an upset in SVG!
What would be d possible scenarios if USA doh get ah win in SVG.

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: FireBrand on September 01, 2016, 10:35:32 AM
Key USA players who will be missing:

Clint Dempsey - Irregular heartbeat
Jermaine Jones - Knee injury
John Brooks - Back injury
Gyasi Zardes - Broken fifth metatarsal in his right foot

Surprised Gooch from Sunderland wasn't called up. He could have caused us some problems.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 01, 2016, 11:01:18 AM
Key USA players who will be missing:

Clint Dempsey - Irregular heartbeat
Jermaine Jones - Knee injury
John Brooks - Back injury
Gyasi Zardes - Broken fifth metatarsal in his right foot

The US has a lot of depth. But those are key players who have been in the national set up regularly..

I smell an upset in SVG!
What would be d possible scenarios if USA doh get ah win in SVG.

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use this

http://ultra.zone/2018-FIFA-World-Cup-qualification-CONCACAF-Fourth-Round#group=c
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 01, 2016, 12:32:08 PM
Key USA players who will be missing:

Clint Dempsey - Irregular heartbeat
Jermaine Jones - Knee injury
John Brooks - Back injury
Gyasi Zardes - Broken fifth metatarsal in his right foot

The US has a lot of depth. But those are key players who have been in the national set up regularly..

I smell an upset in SVG!
What would be d possible scenarios if USA doh get ah win in SVG.

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use this

http://ultra.zone/2018-FIFA-World-Cup-qualification-CONCACAF-Fourth-Round#group=c
Cool thanks, USA needs at least one win, and we need to at least not lose.

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on September 01, 2016, 01:00:43 PM
Tim Howard will start in goal for the USA.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Mose on September 01, 2016, 01:04:41 PM
Key USA players who will be missing:

Clint Dempsey - Irregular heartbeat
Jermaine Jones - Knee injury
John Brooks - Back injury
Gyasi Zardes - Broken fifth metatarsal in his right foot

The US has a lot of depth. But those are key players who have been in the national set up regularly..

I smell an upset in SVG!

Well Boy! If SVG manage to pull off a Coup against US, Trini should supply dem with FREE OIL for a year as a Thank you!

Those are important players missing but they still have the likes of Howard, Bradley, Altidore and Morris. Not going to be easy.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 01, 2016, 01:14:55 PM
Bradley is also out suspended for the SVG game
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on September 01, 2016, 03:21:41 PM
For those making the Trip to JAX. Saw that Hurricane Hermine is enroute to the Florida Coastline and should make land fall by tonight and Jacksonville is listed under TS watch. Please be on the Alert and monitor where necessary.

Would be good to get some updates from relevant authorities as this could potentially impact travel, as well as the game itself...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: palos on September 01, 2016, 03:52:46 PM
For those making the Trip to JAX. Saw that Hurricane Hermine is enroute to the Florida Coastline and should make land fall by tonight and Jacksonville is listed under TS watch. Please be on the Alert and monitor where necessary.

Would be good to get some updates from relevant authorities as this could potentially impact travel, as well as the game itself...

Good looking out  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: palos on September 01, 2016, 03:58:24 PM
After we get the necessary result tomorrow against Guatemala, I would field this squad against the US


Greg Ranjitsingh
Mekeil Williams
Yohance Marshall
Sheldon Bateau
Cordell Cato
Jomal Williams
Khaleem Hyland
KevinMolino
Kevan George
Joevin Jones
Kenwyne Jones


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 01, 2016, 04:42:21 PM
After we get the necessary result tomorrow against Guatemala, I would field this squad against the US


Greg Ranjitsingh
Mekeil Williams
Yohance Marshall
Sheldon Bateau
Cordell Cato
Jomal Williams
Khaleem Hyland
KevinMolino
Kevan George
Joevin Jones
Kenwyne Jones




When we get the result tomorrow brother.. When not if..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: palos on September 01, 2016, 05:17:49 PM
where you see if on my post bro?  :)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: andremartinsc on September 01, 2016, 09:58:57 PM
Who do you guys think is gonna start on the next matches?

I think Hart will prefer to start a 4-2-3-1 against Guatemala, and maybe a defensive 5-4-1 against US?

I don't watch the Trinidadian league and some of the players, but based on what I know from each one, that's what I'm expecting:

4-2-3-1
Phillip? I don't know the GKs
Williams-Marshall-Bateau-David
------Hyland-Boucaud
----Cato-Molino-Joevin
--------Kenwyne

I was expecting Bostock to play so Molino would be the RM and Bostock the CAM.
And I'm not sure about Cato but Levi Garcia plays only on the left side, the same as Joevin Jones, so still unsure if he will get the start.


5-4-1
Phillip? I don't know the GKs
Williams-Marshall-Bateau-AbuBakr-David
-------------Hyland-Boucaud
Molino-------------------------------Joevin
----------------Kenwyne

--------
I think we'll play a 4231 against Guatemala. Suspect Levi will start on the left wing with Joevin on the right like against SVG.

That result would determine how we play the US. That said I don't recall Hart ever playing a back 5 moreso a flat 5. Probably because it doesn't maximize our counter attacking speed. If he's going to play 5 I think you'd have at least 1 wing back. Joevin could fit this role. I could see this being an option and slot Levi ahead of him. That might be a nice wrinkle that they may not expect.

Thanks for the insight

Still learning about T&T national team  :laugh:
Title: Full List of Events in Jacksonville 4 Football Match thru PREGAME TAILGATE PARTY
Post by: De_Professor on September 02, 2016, 12:54:46 AM
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: andremartinsc on September 02, 2016, 04:22:28 PM
Do you guys have a streaming link for today's match? I want a good one  :laugh:

Brazilian TV will broadcast Haiti x Costa Rica and Mexico x El Salvador but won't stream T&T. Shit
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 02, 2016, 04:23:39 PM
You are a few days early.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: andremartinsc on September 02, 2016, 04:24:40 PM
You are a few days early.

I couldn't find a T&T x Guatemala thread. So I posted here
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 02, 2016, 04:28:01 PM
You are a few days early.

I couldn't find a T&T x Guatemala thread. So I posted here

Approaching match days, we pin the threads. Go to the Football page and look at the top. Or, just go to Recent Posts (bottom of the forum's main page) and you'll find it.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: andremartinsc on September 02, 2016, 04:52:30 PM
You are a few days early.

I couldn't find a T&T x Guatemala thread. So I posted here

Approaching match days, we pin the threads. Go to the Football page and look at the top. Or, just go to Recent Posts (bottom of the forum's main page) and you'll find it.

Sorry. I will do it
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sam on September 03, 2016, 06:34:25 AM
We dont need to win this game and should give a few men a run. But knowing Hart he might play de same team.

Ranjitsingh
Williams
Marshall
Bateau
David
Jomal
Hector
George
Boucaud
Joevin
Kenwyne


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: triniwings on September 03, 2016, 08:51:02 AM
Any idea what section you guys will be in JAX?  Making the drive up from Orlando, trying to purchase tickets now.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 03, 2016, 08:59:28 AM
We dont need to win this game and should give a few men a run. But knowing Hart he might play de same team.


This is still a world cup qualifier and depending what position we finish in the group could determine who we play first in the hex. So we still should go out with the best team to win like any world cup qualifier that has future consequences.
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tobago28 on September 03, 2016, 09:15:23 AM
Guatemala will beat SVG. Can we get some revenge for 19 November?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 03, 2016, 09:18:07 AM
Guatemala will beat SVG. Can we get some revenge for 19 November?

We ask that question every time we play the US  :)

..and based on how we played against Guatemala I have my doubts. We shall see
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 03, 2016, 09:39:05 AM
We dont need to win this game and should give a few men a run. But knowing Hart he might play de same team.

Ranjitsingh
Williams
Marshall
Bateau
David
Jomal
Hector
George
Boucaud
Joevin
Kenwyne




yes we do NEED to win or at least try, momentum sam momentum, we done doh get too much friendlies this is ah opportunity to truly announce we self to d biased US fans and press, come on now, we want dem sweatin bout we come d hex


note: doh have ah issue with side yuh pick...jus yuh mental
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Jayerson on September 03, 2016, 11:34:17 AM
The start of the Hex is November 11th and 2nd match is November 15th. Winner of Group C will play Mexico at home. Runner up of Group C will play winner of Group B (Costa Rica or Panama). List of fixtures below. Either way (winner or runners up) we start at home and end the campaign against the USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_CONCACAF_Fifth_Round (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_CONCACAF_Fifth_Round)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Spursy on September 03, 2016, 12:48:00 PM
I had time today to watch some key moments vs Guatemala and if changes are not made it could be a painful experience in Jacksonville -45 mins away from my home.

I know this is the USA thread, however it's very important to understand what challenges affect this team. So let me get straight to it, and keep in mind I am overly critical when it comes to the National team. Maybe I expect too much or hoping somehow there is luck or more fingernails I can chew on.

Lets start with our captain - Kenwyne Jones has been a rock - maybe he realize this is potentially his last qualification campaign which is very important for his legacy. Thus he spends alot of time on the pitch organizing his team - you can see it after the first Guatemala goal clearly- this exerts alot of his energy because like most trinis they don't react until disaster strikes. If Jones and the staff can properly advise each and every player on their purpose before the game maybe it will relieve some of the work he has to do verbally.

Secondly and staying on topic with the captain - he is an outlet to release pressure from the backline - however been the point man of the attack means that the opposition can safely start from the back (offensive third) and start building from that. If you analyse any big team today you will find they don't allow defenders to easily come out of that position - this creates chaos and mistakes - it also helps keep the play higher up so the midfield can focus more on positing rather than been defensive which also creates mistakes like the one Kevan George made that allowed Guatemala to score their second. Because of the lack of offensive third pressure teams can completely bypass our midfield and get behind us to create an opportunity. Thus alot of you guys here will say "oh our middle sucks" it's not fair assumption... our problem is the offensive third. I always believe Jones is better off connected to the midfield as an outlet rather than a stand alone striker upfront.

With all of the above said it's hard to be critical when the team has qualifiedfor the hex but playing the usa at home is important because they themselves has opened their eyes especially from copa - they know the team is not structured well enough to deal with the physical high pressure teams from comebol.  Understanding the dynamic of the Americans is paramount if our ambitions are to reach Russia.  There will be no easy games - momentum is key. I don't endorse Kevan George in the middle he melted under pressure.. Also I didn't like changing the dynamic of the team when they were ahead - this team must be able to play for 90+ mins and the captain is expected to be there til the end -barring injuries. 90 mins is when you start changing personnel to kill off the stoppage time not 10 mins from time.

So lets hope these comments were taking as constructive criticism and not as derogatory comments. See you in Jacksonville.

Can't wait for "Touches" reports - I live for dem tings <3
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: sjahrain on September 04, 2016, 05:35:30 AM
I agree with you..T&T FAN..
KJ needs to ghost his way up front...by being the lone target up front..that makes it to easy for the defence because he is stationary.....
Thanks for the point...my Warriors


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tobago28 on September 04, 2016, 05:48:09 AM
Guatemala will beat SVG. Can we get some revenge for 19 November?

We ask that question every time we play the US  :)

..and based on how we played against Guatemala I have my doubts. We shall see

Isn't this time different because this is the first time(I remember) that we can with a Guatemala win end the USA WC qualification?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on September 04, 2016, 07:20:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/GJzuqd3UWp0
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 04, 2016, 04:19:43 PM
just reading bigsoccer if I didn't know any better I'd swear some ah dem fellas nervous maybe even frighten :D :D :D....man even factoring in losing to we in dey scenarios and how much goals guat could put on SVG.......I tink if d US doh beat we convincingly klinnsey gone :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

still it feels good to see dem dismissive pricks bamsee winkin when dey talkin bout this game......win, lose or draw this would be the best time leave ah lastin impression on dem jus like we did mexico
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Deeks on September 04, 2016, 05:07:06 PM
This game is important to us as far as playing quality opposition. We should careless about how the US feelings. Whichever stariting eleven should take it, as if it is our first Hex. game.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 04, 2016, 05:28:37 PM
This game is important to us as far as playing quality opposition. We should careless about how the US feelings. Whichever stariting eleven should take it, as if it is our first Hex. game.

it not about caring what they tink, we were a sure six points for them, when this all began, now dey tone change, it just feels good to not be d team with d monkey on we back for change...yuh doh find
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: 100% Barataria on September 04, 2016, 07:03:03 PM
just reading bigsoccer if I didn't know any better I'd swear some ah dem fellas nervous maybe even frighten :D :D :D....man even factoring in losing to we in dey scenarios and how much goals guat could put on SVG.......I tink if d US doh beat we convincingly klinnsey gone :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

still it feels good to see dem dismissive pricks bamsee winkin when dey talkin bout this game......win, lose or draw this would be the best time leave ah lastin impression on dem jus like we did mexico

Nah man lefty, yuh readin into dem posts....de only ting dey say clear cut is that we have speedy players who will pose threats for WBs if they cannot keep up.  If we were in their position we would be wondering about Guat hammering SVG as well and the possibility of not making it.  That said, would be great if we did send a mssg.  honestly, the biggest issue w/this team is the time it takes to gel after coming off a break, the more they play together and frequently they grow from strength to strength.  So looking forward, would need some friendlies well planned in the international break and trust that they get better at gelin quickly when coming together...

Edit: http://www.concacaf.com/article/tt-targets-group-c-title
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 04, 2016, 07:11:55 PM
Nah I jus amused dat dey factor in losing never really see dem ACTIVELY consider dat shit before, in ah home game no less........ It may have more to do with dey lack of faith in klinsman but still curious.

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tobago28 on September 04, 2016, 07:24:25 PM
Winning this game will tell us more about this team than the draw on Friday. I am looking to see if we have a Champion's Mind or a "hard luck" attitude.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 04, 2016, 07:32:25 PM
Winning this game will tell us more about this team than the draw on Friday. I am looking to see if we have a Champion's Mind or a "hard luck" attitude.

Right! There is a lot to be said in this game. Yes we make it to the hex already so now what? do we just play for fun, just play because have to play, or be ah team of warriors who want to win and send a message?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 05, 2016, 03:02:47 AM
Winning this game will tell us more about this team than the draw on Friday. I am looking to see if we have a Champion's Mind or a "hard luck" attitude.

Right! There is a lot to be said in this game. Yes we make it to the hex already so now what? do we just play for fun, just play because have to play, or be ah team of warriors who want to win and send a message?

I think the brothers should play free flowing football... No nerves... Just play yuh game brothers.. Nothing to worry about.. Everything is in gods hands... That's my opinion..
Title: Re: Full List of Events in Jacksonville 4 Football Match thru PREGAME TAILGATE PARTY
Post by: kounty on September 05, 2016, 04:18:37 AM
After game fete ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trini Madness on September 05, 2016, 07:26:43 AM
It's still a qualifier, whatever the starting 11 is, they should play hard. Make them earn it. I want three points, end their "reign" here.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 05, 2016, 08:11:17 AM


I want three points, end their "reign" here.

I want it especially in d states, let dem see we could get a result on their patch......we does be too comfortable playing in d states to not try and give them a run for dey money, atleast

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: injunchile on September 05, 2016, 08:55:10 AM
We have to play them with the same mindset vs Mexico. From now on the goal is to go for a win. The target is Russia and no- one must stand in our way in CONCACAF . Let us not take our eyes off the prize.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 05, 2016, 10:08:06 AM

T&T Senior Team works out on first morning in Jacksonville
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https://www.youtube.com/v/reMME-ovjFw&spfreload=10
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Jumbie on September 05, 2016, 10:40:04 AM
How important is winning this game mentally.. moving forward? Confidence and announcing that we are to be taken seriously in the hex.

Plus getting the bandwaggonists behind the team so they can enjoy support in numbers (as flaky as it may be) during the hex. And possible sponsors. Im also sure pro league/team scouts will be tuning in?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on September 05, 2016, 11:16:46 AM
Gettin a strong vibe in my gut that KJ gonna have a massive showing in this game...
Title: Eyes on the prize
Post by: Tallman on September 05, 2016, 11:23:06 AM
Eyes on the prize
By Fazeer Mohammed (T&T Express)


To all intents and purposes, the final phase of the qualification campaign for Russia 2018 starts tomorrow night in Jacksonville, Florida.

Having done just enough to get a share of the points against Guatemala on Friday night and confirm a slot among the six teams battling for three confirmed spots for CONCACAF at the next World Cup football finals, Trinidad and Tobago need to play every remaining game of this campaign as if that ticket to Moscow is on the line.

Never one to back away from a realistic assessment of his own team, head coach Stephen Hart’s description of the national side’s effort in the 2-2 draw with the Guatemalans as “sloppy” must be translated as a warning to the players to step up their games, cut out the basic errors and eliminate the mental lapses heading into this duel with the United States at a venue where the Americans are unbeaten in senior internationals.

This will be a test of the real professionalism of the squad, for having already done enough to make it through to the final stage of qualification there is always the fear of a lack of intensity that could result in a performance which may have long-term ramifications on the form and confidence of the squad by the time the hexagonal round proper kicks off on November 11.

Nine weeks may be a long time in football, but it can also be a worryingly short timeframe if considerable damage is inflicted on the psyche of the team by a poor performance against an American squad which will be even more keen to restate its dominance over the twin-island nation before they meet twice more next year when every single point will be vital.

History warns us of the potential pitfalls presented by games like these.

In the campaign for the 2002 finals in Japan and South Korea, Trinidad and Tobago actually topped the semi-final round grouping of qualification ahead of Mexico before finishing dead last in the “Hex” with just five points from ten games.

All was going well in that semi-final phase with the likes of Dwight Yorke, Russell Latapy, Stern John and Angus Eve in top form. Qualification for the final round was sealed with a 4-0 drubbing of Canada at the Hasely Crawford Stadium with two games left to play. That’s when the trouble started.

Five weeks later the squad travelled to Mexico City and played an atrocious game, going four goals behind in the first 30 minutes and eventually enduring a 7-0 drubbing that obliterated the team’s air of invincibility. A 1-0 win in Panama in the last game of that phase did little to restore momentum and it was all downhill after that with poor performances on the pitch compounded by off-field disputes, the firing of head coach Ian Porterfield and the failure of replacement Rene Simoes, the Brazilian who had taken Jamaica to the 1998 finals in France, to impose disciplinary measures on Yorke and Latapy.

We may want to think that such an embarrassing fiasco cannot happen again, especially given the way this team has come together under Hart’s stewardship and Kenwyne Jones’ leadership over the past three years. But doing well in Gold Cups and the occasional friendly international is one thing. As we have experienced many times before, all sorts of strange things happen in a World Cup qualifying campaign because there is so much at stake, so many Johnny-come-latelys who want to have a say or interfere with the process and so many distractions that shift focus from the primary objective of achieving a consistently high level of performance over ten qualifying games.

When it comes to football especially, this country suffers from the inestimable ability to mess things up, even after fulfilling a cherished goal, as we discovered after getting to the World Cup finals in Germany in 2006.

Whatever the issues with the administration of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association, whatever the lapses in organisational systems that could see a return of the problem of masses of fans stalled at the Hasely Crawford Stadium main gate on Friday night, it is up to Hart, Jones and the extended leadership group of the squad to keep their eyes on the prize and all that is required to get their hands on it.

It is a singular focus and unwavering intensity that needs to be turned up a few notches from kickoff at 8.15 p.m. tomorrow. Rest assured Jurgen Klinsmann will have the Americans primed for the contest following the goalless draw in Port of Spain last November. They want to have T&T second-guessing themselves all the way through to that last game of the “Hex” on October 10 next year against...yes, the United States.

No sloppiness anymore, please.
Title: Armada's Kevan George set to play for Trinidad and Tobago against U.S.
Post by: Tallman on September 05, 2016, 11:28:01 AM
Armada's Kevan George set to play for Trinidad and Tobago against U.S.
By Clayton Freeman (jacksonville.com)


Jacksonville Armada midfielder Kevan George keeps his philosophy of soccer simple.

“It just comes down to a ball and a man,” he said.

This time, though, the ball is on the grass of EverBank Field.

And the man is George, the hard-running midfielder who, for one night, will be a visitor in front of the city he now calls home.

Homeland meets hometown for George, who prepares to line up for Trinidad and Tobago against the United States in Tuesday’s World Cup qualifying match at EverBank Field.

George, born in Roxborough, Tobago, moved to the United States in his youth. He graduated from Decatur High School in the Atlanta area and played college soccer at Central Florida.

He was drafted by Major League Soccer’s Columbus Crew in 2012 and played in the MLS before signing with the Armada on April 10. Since then, he’s become a near-automatic starter for the North American Soccer League franchise.

“The timing couldn’t be better for the city, for the club and for Kevan himself,” Armada interim head coach Mark Lowry said. “He’s just put in three great performances, so he’s going to go away confident.”

George has represented Trinidad and Tobago in 21 international games, although he wasn’t included in the national team’s most recent selection.

“It’s huge just to be part of the family,” he said. “It was just two games, but it felt like 60 months. … I’m just happy to be back.”

Trinidad and Tobago’s team, called the Soca Warriors by its exuberant fan base, has already advanced to the six-team final group in North American qualification for the 2018 World Cup in Russia.

The top three in that round, which ends in October 2017, make the 32-team World Cup field.

The only prior World Cup for Trinidad and Tobago came in 2006. For George, who was 15 when he watched the team clinch its long-awaited success in November 2005, the moment is frozen in memory.

“That playoff game with Bahrain, home and away, when Chris Birchall had that long-distance shot from almost half the field,” George said. “That really stood out to me, and we have a chance to repeat history.”

The history in the series between the teams has been one-sided, with the United States holding an edge of 16-2-4 all-time and 11-1-3 in World Cup qualifiers.

The most famous matchup came Nov. 19, 1989, when a young U.S. team — including former Armada coach Tony Meola at goalkeeper — stunned the Port-of-Spain crowd in a 1-0, winner-take-all match to reach the Americans’ first World Cup since 1950.

Despite Trinidad and Tobago’s modest population of around 1.3 million, the Americans can’t take George and the Soca Warriors lightly.

At the CONCACAF Gold Cup in 2015, the Trinidadians won their group ahead of favored Mexico to reach the quarterfinals.

“A lot of people were surprised, but we knew we were ready,” George said.

He’s already played against the Americans once in qualifying, starting last November and containing American captain Michael Bradley as Trinidad and Tobago held the U.S. team to a 0-0 tie.

Although the city is now familiar for George, who has played here for five months, he hasn’t previously played at EverBank Field.

“Being in his hometown, there will be a lot of people in the stadium that already know him,” Lowry said. “So that should make him feel at ease as well.”

If George gets a chance to take the field Tuesday, he said he won’t be overwhelmed by the special occasion.

“It’ll mean a lot. This is where I call home now. I’ve made a few friends here, my teammates,” George said. “But at the end of the day, it’s soccer, man. I don’t get too fazed by it.”
Title: Trinidad and Tobago targets Group C title
Post by: Tallman on September 05, 2016, 11:38:10 AM
Trinidad and Tobago targets Group C title
CONCACAF.com


Not even rain in Jacksonville could bring down Trinidad & Tobago from the high of earning a place in the final round of CONCACAF qualifying for the 2018 FIFA World Cup.

On Friday, the Soca Warriors played visiting Guatemala to a 2-2 draw, ensuring them either a first- or second-place finish in Group A. With as a little as a draw against the host United States (3W-1D-1L, 10 points) on Tuesday at Everbank Field, T&T (3-2-0, 11) will capture the group title.

The squad landed in the northern Florida city mid-afternoon Saturday and trained for an hour, before head coach Stephen Hart allowed time to rest at the team hotel. Everybody returned at 6pm for another session.

With the opportunity to qualify for its second-ever World Cup and first since 2006 in Germany, the Trinidadians want to capitalize on any time they can spend together. They are not satisfied solely by progressing to the Hexagonal. There’s also the business of topping the final table with an unbeaten record. A win over the U.S., combined with a heavy victory by Guatemala (2-1-2, 7) over St. Vincent & the Grenadines (0-0-5, 0) could see the Americans be eliminated.

"Yes I think it would be a good way to end the semifinal round with a good result against the U.S. and a strong performance,” said Joevin Jones, who plays with the USA’s Seattle Sounders and scored both goals in the Guatemala stalemate. “Obviously, I know a few of the guys from playing in the league here and there has been a lot of talk about the match. I am sure the two teams will go all out to try and win the match and set the pace for the next round.”

Jones struck in each half against Guatemala and highlighted some positive signs from the overall effort.

"I know I had to put on a good performance and play my part in order to help the team and I was happy to do that," the 25-year-old remarked. "Even though we started strongly…they kind of pegged us back with the first goal and from then we knew we had to come back even stronger and we did that. I think it's the kind of spirit and fight we will need in the next round.”

T&T last competed in the CONCACAF Hexagonal during the 2010 World Cup cycle.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trini on September 05, 2016, 11:58:03 AM
Interesting article from starsandstripesfc.com

http://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2016/9/5/12791340/usa-vs-trinidad-and-tobago-2018-world-cup-qualifying-preview-keys

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RECENT FORM:

Trinidad and Tobago
D (2-2) - Guatemala - WCQ
L (2-4) - China - Friendly
L (1-3) - Uruguay- Friendly
L (0-4) - Peru - Friendly
W (6-0) - St. Vincent and the Grenadines - WCQ

WHAT TO WATCH FOR:
High Octane - T&T have a full-throttle offense: they do not stop attacking even when it would be very, very prudent for them to do so. In fact, it was their continual offensive pressing in their match against 10-man Guatemala, while up a goal, that allowed Guatemala the space and opportunities to get their equalizer and make this game mean anything at all. To put it simply: offense is what the Soca Warriors do best. Kenwyne Jones is a deadly finisher on his day, but their speed and skill on the flanks allow Jones plenty of opportunities as well. On the other hand, it also tends to leave them open to attacks. The last scoreless game they’ve played? Last year’s 0-0 draw against the U.S. Since then, they’ve scored 17 goals and conceded 17 goals. So, yeah. Don’t expect them to take a bath this game just because they’ve already advanced. They don’t know how.

.............

Is this how we perceive the Warriors at the present time?
But we do concede way too many goals, not the form to make it through the HEX..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on September 05, 2016, 12:13:38 PM
I think the statement is accurate. If it's one thing this squad has over other teams... Is the ability to score goals, and even better, they can come from a variety of players than in the past...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on September 05, 2016, 12:16:24 PM
WATCH: Sheldon Bateau reflects on Trinidad and Tobago’s 2-2 draw with Guatemala and looks ahead to the match against USA

https://www.youtube.com/v/EFe9vRBbTNc

WATCH: United States vs Trinidad and Tobago Preview

https://www.youtube.com/v/MiagEKc9UvE
Title: Ranjitsingh ready for huge World Cup Qualifier against United States
Post by: Tallman on September 05, 2016, 12:48:32 PM
Ranjitsingh ready for huge World Cup Qualifier against United States
Louisville City FC


Louisville City FC goalkeeper Greg Ranjitsingh witnessed a "crazy atmosphere" Friday night as Trinidad and Tobago played Guatemala to a 2-2 draw, in the process earning a point that moved the nation one step closer to qualifying for the 2018 FIFA World Cup.

"We have a whole country behind us," said Ranjitsingh, who earned LouCity's first full international call up for a pair of games this month. "The stadium was packed. Even my cousins trying to come to the game had to leave hours early to get to the stadium in time because the traffic was unreal."

After witnessing support in the country he represents, Ranjitsingh -- a Canadian native whose father immigrated from Trinidad -- will be with T&T again Tuesday for a game against the United States in Jacksonville. Kickoff is set for 8:15 p.m. at EverBank Field, with Fox Sports 1 to broadcast.

"It's going to be huge," Ranjitsingh said.

Veteran keeper Marvin Phillip went the distance in goal last time out for T&T, tallying his 58th cap. But Ranjitsingh dressed and made the bench along with Adrian Foncette, who has appeared in three games for the Senior Men's Team.

It won't be until the pregame presentation Tuesday that Ranjitsingh sees the starting lineup. Regardless of whether he plays, the 23-year-old said he has taken plenty away from his international time.

"Training with these players, there's a lot of quality -- guys from all over," he said. "They're European-based, some guys play in Mexico, or the Trini league. There are some from MLS. It's a great experience to be at this level. You can only get better."

Seattle Sounders defender Joevin Jones recorded a brace against Guatemala. Other well-known members of Trinidad's squad include striker Kenwyne Jones, who next year will join MLS' new Atlanta United, as well as Orlando City SC's Kevin Molino.

The Soca Warriors, as T&T's Senior Men's Team is also known, are 1-11-2 all-time against the United States in World Cup qualifying. But Trinidad has already secured a spot in the Hexagonal, the final stage of qualifying for the World Cup in Russia.

Ranjitsingh was traveling Saturday as LouCity knocked off FC Montral by a 1-0 score on the road. He did see glimpses of teammate Tim Dobrowolski's debut in goal, a shutout performance.

"I'm happy that the guys came through with the win," said Ranjitsingh, who's soaking in his experience -- but has missed being away from LouCity. "Definitely. When I see the guys on social media having fun and enjoying themselves, it's tough. Louisville City's been like a second family to me."

Ranjitsingh will return to Louisville after Tuesday's game and be available Saturday when LouCity hosts the Richmond Kickers at Slugger Field.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 05, 2016, 01:48:12 PM
Solid article by Fazeer.

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As we have experienced many times before, all sorts of strange things happen in a World Cup qualifying campaign because there is so much at stake, so many Johnny-come-latelys who want to have a say or interfere with the process and so many distractions that shift focus from the primary objective of achieving a consistently high level of performance over ten qualifying games.

When it comes to football especially, this country suffers from the inestimable ability to mess things up, even after fulfilling a cherished goal, as we discovered after getting to the World Cup finals in Germany in 2006.

Spot on.

Especially the bolded.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 05, 2016, 01:57:18 PM
Regarding the video of training on Sunday: A couple players look like dey never see a resistance band in dey life. :devil: ... which of course, they have.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 05, 2016, 02:19:34 PM
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Ah hope Hart see wha going on here

https://twitter.com/DougMacESPN/status/772881820274814976
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 05, 2016, 02:23:26 PM
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Ah hope Hart see wha going on here

https://twitter.com/DougMacESPN/status/772881820274814976
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Looking forward to see T&T starting 11
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on September 05, 2016, 02:29:58 PM
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Ah hope Hart see wha going on here

https://twitter.com/DougMacESPN/status/772881820274814976
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Was never in doubt. USA coming all out to try and not only win but they wanna embarrass T&T and send a message to there own supporters and CONCACAF. This game is about their Pride and they can't stomach the thought of running 2nd to T&T. It's also the fact that Klinsmann's job could be on the line if they don't deliver. As far as I'm concerned ALL the Pressure is on the US, so we just have to go and play our hearts out,  take the game to them and bring home the result like I know we can. 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on September 05, 2016, 02:39:14 PM
FIVE THINGS TO KNOW: TRINIDAD & TOBAGO
MNT Sep 5, 2016

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/09/05/14/44/160905-mnt-five-things-to-know-world-cup-qaulifier-vs-trinidad-and-tobago
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 05, 2016, 02:46:34 PM
No surprise there. The US has key players out and a need to engage this match seriously.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on September 05, 2016, 02:48:42 PM
WATCH: Joevin Jones discusses his brace against Guatemala and looks ahead to the match against USA

https://www.youtube.com/v/jBM4oyXsZp8

WATCH: Interview with Head Coach Stephen Hart on the eve of the World Cup Qualifier against the United States

https://www.youtube.com/v/8fDAhL0TCQM
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on September 05, 2016, 02:54:16 PM
Bateau is suspended for this game due to accumulation of yellow cards.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on September 05, 2016, 02:57:42 PM
Bateau is suspended for this game due to accumulation of yellow cards.
Damn! So it looks like Bakr and Mitchell.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on September 05, 2016, 02:58:44 PM
Bateau is suspended for this game due to accumulation of yellow cards.
Damn! So it looks like Bakr and Mitchell.

Or Yohance
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on September 05, 2016, 05:23:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/tPmrg8aqEpc

https://www.youtube.com/v/fqlOxGEl3Wg
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: crazytrini31 on September 05, 2016, 07:23:37 PM
I have four tickets in section 103 that I need to sell. Everybody in the section is Trinidad supporters. Please link me (954)513-4738 🇹🇹⚽️
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 05, 2016, 07:42:04 PM
I was trying to remember why "crazytrini#" was raising a red flag. THEN I remembered.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: benedicts bwoy on September 06, 2016, 08:48:23 AM
I was trying to remember why "crazytrini#" was raising a red flag. THEN I remembered.

BOOOOMMMM!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: trini supporter on September 06, 2016, 09:01:01 AM
What channel or streams would be broadcasting this game?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trini Madness on September 06, 2016, 10:15:41 AM
What channel or streams would be broadcasting this game?

Fox sports 1 bringing the game
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: frico on September 06, 2016, 10:45:09 AM
When was the last time we had to play a football match where we didn't have to worry about the result,and BTW this is big.It's a relief that I won't be going to bed at 3 in the morning,thanks Warriors.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on September 06, 2016, 11:08:24 AM
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/the-usmnt-would-be-better-off-in-world-cup-qualifying-if-they-lost-to-trinidad-and-tobago-090616

The USMNT would be better off in World Cup qualifying if they lost to Trinidad and Tobago
The schedule for the group's second-place team is better than the one for first.


By Ryan Rosenblatt
Sep 6, 2016 at 10:21a ET
If the United States beat Trinidad and Tobago on Tuesday, they will win Group C in the semifinal round of CONCACAF World Cup qualifying. It's not something that's just expected -- the Americans are historically dominant on home soil in qualifying -- but also viewed as a positive. After all, first place is better than second place. Except in this case it's not. The Americans would be better off finishing in second place.

The top two teams from the group both advance and the Americans are all but guaranteed to be in that top two. There is no real competitive advantage to finishing first over second either, with the final round being a double round-robin and all the teams being thrown into a random draw for scheduling. But the draw was already held and, as luck had it, the schedule for the second-place team in the United States' group is much easier than the schedule for the first-place team.

The team that finishes first in Group C will play Mexico at home, then likely Costa Rica away for their first two games of the Hex in November. That's a very tough start to things and if the Americans win Group C, they might find themselves in an early hole in the Hex.

On top of that, the U.S. would have to play at Mexico in June, which is historically the second hottest month in Mexico City. Considering the extreme heat at Estadio Azteca is one of the reasons it can be among the hardest places in the world to play, it's something the Americans would like to avoid.

Finally, finishing first in Group C would mean that the U.S. would have to finish the Hex away from home. The U.S. haven't lost a qualifier on American soil since 2001, so they have a huge home-field advantage and would probably like to finish the round with a home match, just in case they need it to qualify.

It's not as if finishing first in Group C is a complete waste. They do get to play every home match of the Hex on a Friday if they top the group, which would probably mean bigger and more boisterous crowds. There's also the optimists view that if they can get four (or even six) points from their first two matches against Mexico and Costa Rica then they're sitting pretty for the rest of the Hex.

Still, finishing second in the group looks a lot better. They would host Costa Rica to open the Hex then head to Honduras or Canada (depending on which team advances). That's not too bad. The Americans also wouldn't visit Mexico until October, when the weather is cooler. The match would be the first match of the FIFA double date, so the team would have several days to acclimate to Mexico City's altitude, if they wanted to fly in early. Toss in it spreading their toughest matches out throughout the year-long Hex so they don't have any harrowing back-to-backs and you have a much kinder schedule.

Of course, the U.S. will try to win their match against Trinidad and Tobago. Winning is always good and Jurgen Klinsmann will be happy to get some momentum heading into October's friendlies and then the Hex in November. Everyone always wants to finish in first place, too. The Americans will probably win and Klinsmann and Co. can rightly say they did their job. Because they will have.

Afterward, the U.S. will say they like their Hex schedule and think they have a great chance to get two good results right from the start. That they can't wait to get to Columbus, Ohio to play Mexico in November, and that they'll be hoping for some cold weather. Again, as they should.

But as they do, it will be hard to look at the Hex schedule for the second-place team in Group C. It really does look a lot easier.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 11:16:28 AM
^^ I read opposite from what this writer is saying on the internet. On the American Bigsoccer forum their fans are saying they rather finish top the group and play Mexico first to send a message early, and some also saying if they cannot beat TnT at home they have no place being in Russia.
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Title: Trini Match, Jacksonville fl
Post by: De_Professor on September 06, 2016, 11:22:58 AM
Tailgate at 1850 Wambolt Street, Wambolt and Talleyrand.
Title: T&T goes for strong finish in Jacksonville
Post by: Tallman on September 06, 2016, 11:40:30 AM
T&T goes for strong finish in Jacksonville
TTFA Media


Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s team will be looking to secure the top spot in Group C of CONCACAF semi-final round World Cup qualifying with another positive result and display in their closing match of this phase when they tussle with the United States at EverBank Field in Jacksonville from 8:15pm on Tuesday.

The match has more meaning to the hosts as they will not only be aiming to maintain their unbeaten run at the venue but needs at least a draw to guarantee their spot in the Final round and a win to top the group. Guatemala on 8 points will need to hammer St Vincent/Grenadines along with a T&T win over the US to advance as the other team from this group. T&T are currently atop with eleven points, followed by the US on 10 points and Guatemala on seven.

T&T head coach Stephen Hart and his team will have to do without the services of Russian-based defender Sheldon Bateau who is serving a double yellow card one match suspension. All yellow cards will be wiped out for the Concacaf Final round.

The team had one training session at the match stadium on Monday evening at 6pm with the Americans also training at the venue on the day. The hosts also trained there on Sunday.

“We know in the hex now but we also know that we have to be a little more efficient in the things we do especially off the ball. We had a long team meeting about it and we would like to start implementing it and look at this match as the first match of preparation for the hex,” Hart told TTFA Media on Monday.

“Both goals were preventable on Friday and we didn’t deal with the situation well enough. We could have managed the game better when we were 2-1 using our ball possession more effectively . We lost discipline and allowed them to at least have a fighting chance by coming back into the game. Obviously we are aware of this and we will be working on it as we head into this match.”

Hart added that he expects to make changes to the team for Tuesday’s encounter.

“I think certain players have shown in training that they should get a run out. I don’t want to change things extensively because I would like to keep some sort of balance but yes you’ll see some changes.”

“I think what’s more important is to have a good performance on their own personal levels and a good, collective performance as a team because like I said this is sort of the building towards the hex.”

“We have to look at October first. After a few days just to clear my head, I’ll sit down with the President (David John-Williams) and the staff and plan out October and November with regards to training camps, hotels and flights once we know who we are playing first in the Hex,” Hart added.

US head coach Jurgen Klinsmann has brought in Michael Bradley and Michael Orozco after they served one-match suspensions while Newcastle United’s Deandre Yedlin will miss this encounter through suspension and Matt Beasler has been excused due to the birth of his daughter.

T&T will play in white on Tuesday night. Guatemala takes on St Vincent in the other group encounter in Guatemala City.

The way the draw for the Hex is structured, both T&T and USA will meet in the final match of the final round on Tuesday October 10th, 2017. But the winner of this current group will determine where that match takes place. If T&T finishes second in Group C the game will play in Port of Spain and if they top the group, the match will be held in the US.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: g on September 06, 2016, 12:20:23 PM
Have a gut feeling that we could pull this one off.

Depends on if we take our chances in front of goal.

Time to make a statement to CONCACAF.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: sjahrain on September 06, 2016, 12:52:49 PM
I see a victory here....if we deliver on our chances
KJ left four on the table Friday....expecting him to crash this party tonight
Let's go Warriors
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 06, 2016, 01:31:41 PM
Any links to see the match.. No channels are showing it in Canada...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 02:05:08 PM
Too much is being made of the US. This game tonight is not about ability with the ball at feet. It's about mentality and psychology. Strong up, warriors!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on September 06, 2016, 03:07:36 PM
WATCH: One minute shootout with Joevin Jones, Aubrey David, Radanfah Abu Bakr, Sheldon Shelly Bateau, Khaleem Hyland, and Andre Boucaud

https://vimeo.com/181670762
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 03:22:21 PM
No pre-match bashment report??
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: davyjenny1 on September 06, 2016, 03:28:02 PM
Teams that are getting ready for the hex, i wonder if peaking to early can be an issue midway and towards the end of the tournament. With that being said, teams are going to lose somewhere along the road but one can cast their opinions as to how they feel situations will play out during the hex.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 03:31:47 PM
Teams that are getting ready for the hex, i wonder if peaking to early can be an issue midway and towards the end of the tournament. With that being said teams are going to lose somewhere along the road but one can cast their opinions as to how they feel situations will play out during the hex.

and what make you think we 'peaked' early? you saying we cannot get better? T&T is yet to peak
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: davyjenny1 on September 06, 2016, 03:51:58 PM
Teams that are getting ready for the hex, i wonder if peaking to early can be an issue midway and towards the end of the tournament. With that being said teams are going to lose somewhere along the road but one can cast their opinions as to how they feel situations will play out during the hex.

and what make you think we 'peaked' early? you saying we cannot get better? T&T is yet to peak

Bro ! I think you need to read the info again,  i never said any particular team peaked to early. It was a general comment.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 03:58:46 PM
Teams that are getting ready for the hex, i wonder if peaking to early can be an issue midway and towards the end of the tournament. With that being said teams are going to lose somewhere along the road but one can cast their opinions as to how they feel situations will play out during the hex.

and what make you think we 'peaked' early? you saying we cannot get better? T&T is yet to peak

Bro ! I think you need to read the info again,  i never said any particular team peaked to early. It was a general comment.

oh ok well I apologise. To be honest all teams that made the hex so far can play better, none have peaked yet
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 03:59:05 PM
Difficult to speak about peaking when a team plays at 4 to 8 week intervals.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: 100% Barataria on September 06, 2016, 04:30:12 PM
You can probably make that argument for the semi-final stages of 2002 qualifications (7-0 whipping aside).  In the Hex we were a shadow of ourselves no doubt influenced by other factors....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on September 06, 2016, 05:18:52 PM
No pre-match bashment report??
Everybody like dey wining low at the tailgate.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 05:36:12 PM
No pre-match bashment report??
Everybody like dey wining low at the tailgate.

I say you dey.

Just after I posted that, heard Andre saying about 10-15 Trinbagonians were already inside gehhin on, THREE HOURS BEFORE. Only a foreign-based would arrive that early.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Quags on September 06, 2016, 05:45:17 PM
Hello ,what time is the game starting ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: 100% Barataria on September 06, 2016, 05:46:34 PM
8.15 compre
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Quags on September 06, 2016, 05:52:31 PM
Thanks Barataria.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 06, 2016, 05:53:58 PM
Thanks Barataria.

Any links?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: sjahrain on September 06, 2016, 05:54:42 PM
Any links
Thanks
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on September 06, 2016, 05:56:00 PM
No pre-match bashment report??
Everybody like dey wining low at the tailgate.

I say you dey.

Just after I posted that, heard Andre saying about 10-15 Trinbagonians were already inside gehhin on, THREE HOURS BEFORE. Only a foreign-based would arrive that early.
I would've loved to be there but I invested to a Euro trip at the end of this month so I had to miss this one.
It's only so often we out here get to see our national team in action so we have to show up 6 hours before  :wavetowel:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: OutsideMan on September 06, 2016, 06:00:48 PM
Fox Sports pre-game coverage is currently focusing on the November 19th 1989 game between the US and T&T.

I was at that game as a teenager.  Still a very sore topic for me. 

*smh* :pissedoff:  :pissedoff:  :pissedoff:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trinidad Sports Reality on September 06, 2016, 06:01:01 PM
MARVIN PHILLIP
2AUBREY DAVID
12 MITCHELL
6RADANFAH ABU BAKR
17M WILLIAMS
3JOEVIN JONES
8KHALEEM HYLAND
10KEVIN MOLINO
14ANDRE BOUCAUD
LEVI GARCÍA
9KENWYNE JONES
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: vb on September 06, 2016, 06:03:35 PM
Thanks Barataria.

Any links?
[/quote

links please?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 06:10:51 PM

Ah hope allyuh was standing up straight when we anthem was playing  :) 🇹🇹
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: jason23 on September 06, 2016, 06:11:28 PM
http://laliga-live.xyz/stream3.php
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Rastaman on September 06, 2016, 06:14:04 PM
http://laliga-live.xyz/stream3.php
not working for me
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: chinee boi on September 06, 2016, 06:14:36 PM
http://laliga-live.xyz/stream3.php

thx!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 06, 2016, 06:15:02 PM
http://laliga-live.xyz/stream3.php

Not working bro
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: jason23 on September 06, 2016, 06:15:47 PM
rasta u have to removed the ad, also what browser your using?
could be your flash plugin is not uptoday
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: jason23 on September 06, 2016, 06:16:33 PM
na contro it is , im watching it all now.
must be the browser you all using
which browser u use?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 06, 2016, 06:17:06 PM
na contro it is , im watching it all now.
must be the browser you all using
which browser u use?

Mozilla bro
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Rastaman on September 06, 2016, 06:18:01 PM
rasta u have to removed the ad, also what browser your using?
could be your flash plugin is not uptoday
had the same problem last game but eventually found a link that worked.......using an iPad
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: jason23 on September 06, 2016, 06:18:19 PM
yea Mozilla is a pain in the ass lol i stop using it because of that Plugin continued issue

use Google Chrome and it will work for you, thats what i using to watch it
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: jason23 on September 06, 2016, 06:19:18 PM
same issue with Apple products as they don't really use flash plugin but more htlm5
so you will get that error with all apple browsers like safari
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Quags on September 06, 2016, 06:20:42 PM
look guys this working for me
http://cdn18.crichd.in/fox-sports-1-live-streaming
let me know  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 06:22:04 PM
first row sports
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 06:28:11 PM
This feels so weird. We done qualify and the USA playing a defensive counter-attack against us.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: OutsideMan on September 06, 2016, 06:28:24 PM
I'm very impressed with T&T thus far.  In fear of "talking-to-soon", right now we're dictating the tempo and pace of the game. 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Soccer 19 on September 06, 2016, 06:29:25 PM
rasta u have to removed the ad, also what browser your using?
could be your flash plugin is not uptoday
had the same problem last game but eventually found a link that worked.......using an iPad

Come guys
Us iPad users need a link

Not a betting site link either

Please and thanks asap
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: OutsideMan on September 06, 2016, 06:31:16 PM
The T&T rhythm section dominating the stands... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: E-man on September 06, 2016, 06:31:23 PM
ST Vincent has scored on Guatemala 1-0
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 06:31:38 PM
Links:

http://www.footballstreamings.com/live-streams/1858/USA-v-Trinidad-and-Tobago.html

http://cricfree.sx/watch/live/usa-vs-trinidad-and-tobago-live-streaming

Adblock plus is your friend.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 06:31:51 PM
ST Vincent has scored on Guatemala 1-0


Guatemala done equalize.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: E-man on September 06, 2016, 06:32:09 PM
now equal 1-1

ST Vincent has scored on Guatemala 1-0

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 06:33:12 PM
Come guys
Us iPad users need a link

Allyuh should have made better choices in life...  ;D :devil:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: jason23 on September 06, 2016, 06:39:40 PM
rasta u have to removed the ad, also what browser your using?
could be your flash plugin is not uptoday
had the same problem last game but eventually found a link that worked.......using an iPad

Come guys
Us iPad users need a link

Not a betting site link either

Please and thanks asap




http://www.liveonlinetv247.info/livefootball.php
use that site .i use to use it when i had a safari browser !! it showing on bein sports!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 06:40:02 PM
vipracing.info/channel/opcion-4
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 06:40:05 PM
Agricultural tackle dey. Steups. Shoulda be a penalty
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Brownsugar on September 06, 2016, 06:41:08 PM
We just escaped a penalty.....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sam on September 06, 2016, 06:41:46 PM
Molino is pure shit.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 06:43:24 PM
3-1 Guatemala
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: banton on September 06, 2016, 06:44:22 PM
Molino real fall off
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 06:44:55 PM
The centre mids having to work to much..Levi & Joevin not Impacting.. maybe they should switch lil bit    :devil:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 06:45:42 PM
skin of we teeth
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: davyjenny1 on September 06, 2016, 06:45:57 PM
3-1 Guatemala
Guat. racking them up. lets see how much they can put in,
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 06:46:01 PM
3-2 in Guatemala. They salt if each time they score they also concede.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: OutsideMan on September 06, 2016, 06:46:34 PM
*WHEW!!!!*  THAT was close!!!  The US almost scored on us.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 06:46:46 PM
See how easy Altidore just man handle Mitchell smh
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: E-man on September 06, 2016, 06:46:50 PM
I want to see both posts AND the crossbar next
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Rastaman on September 06, 2016, 06:51:27 PM
I have the blasted game live all the time and looking on the wrong channel......😡😡😡😡😡
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: davyjenny1 on September 06, 2016, 06:52:23 PM
LEVI take Bradley for ah nice lil run dey down de wing.He show him up.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 06:52:32 PM
4-2 Guate.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Soccer 19 on September 06, 2016, 06:57:22 PM
rasta u have to removed the ad, also what browser your using?
could be your flash plugin is not uptoday
had the same problem last game but eventually found a link that worked.......using an iPad

Come guys
Us iPad users need a link

Not a betting site link either

Please and thanks asap

Keeps cutting out
Anything on YouTube ??


http://www.liveonlinetv247.info/livefootball.php
use that site .i use to use it when i had a safari browser !! it showing on bein sports!

Keeps cutting out
Anything on YouTube ???
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Brownsugar on September 06, 2016, 06:58:41 PM
Yeah.....ah saw that US goal coming.....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 06:58:45 PM
smh Hyland what did you just do man
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: OutsideMan on September 06, 2016, 06:58:49 PM
STEUPPES!!!!!! US: 1   (off a poor defensive clearance by T&T)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: chinee boi on September 06, 2016, 06:59:28 PM
Shit goal for US but he was in the right place at the right time
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 06:59:32 PM
Goal in an area in which we have had concerns: clearances.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 06:59:46 PM
Normal service has resumed
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:00:11 PM

Aubrey David is getting beat too easily
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:01:01 PM
somebody say Hector & Cato ? we need to stop dem running down our wing..our Centre mids having to run out, then they switching to middle..we need two wing mids who will play defence AND offence..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: jason23 on September 06, 2016, 07:01:14 PM
sigh
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:02:11 PM
somebody say Hector & Cato ? we need to stop dem running down our wing..our Centre mids having to run out, then they switching to middle..we need two wing mids who will play defence AND offence

Cato need to learn to run with the ball with his head up so he can see open players before he ever play on the field for T&T again
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 06, 2016, 07:03:29 PM
smh Hyland what did you just do man
.

Hyland can't pass to save his life... real rubbish... he had time to dribble left and clear...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:03:33 PM
Mitchell getting beat easily on the left and Aubrey David getting beat easily on the right, both giving the Americans a lot of chances in the first half of the game.
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: OutsideMan on September 06, 2016, 07:03:44 PM
Poor defensive clearance right to the feet of a US player at the top of the PK spot caused that goal.  Other than that, T&T has been holding its own, and at times have dictated the pace of the game.  Despite the 43rd minute goal, I do not see a huge disparity between the levels of these two teams. 

Right now it's all just mental.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:04:53 PM
Poor defensive clearance right to the feet of a US player at the top of the PK spot caused that goal.  Other than that, T&T has been holding its own, and at times have dictated the pace of the game.  Despite the 43rd minute goal, I do not see a huge disparity between the levels of these two teams. 

Right now it's all just mental.

T&T has had good amount of possession but the Americans are creating easier and better chances. We are depending on counter attack football for chances on goal.
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 06, 2016, 07:05:45 PM
Poor defensive clearance right to the feet of a US player at the top of the PK spot caused that goal.  Other than that, T&T has been holding its own, and at times have dictated the pace of the game.  Despite the 43rd minute goal, I do not see a huge disparity between the levels of these two teams. 

Right now it's all just mental.

well Hyland break under pressure again and make a bad pass... Guerra better hands down any day than Hyland at passing and dribbling
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: g on September 06, 2016, 07:06:00 PM
US ain't playing anything special. We right in this
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:06:37 PM
Defense holding considering being hang out to dry....we winning this game doh..we fixin that this half, Molino, Bou and Hyland have to much ground to cover and not enuff time
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:08:35 PM
Poor defensive clearance right to the feet of a US player at the top of the PK spot caused that goal.  Other than that, T&T has been holding its own, and at times have dictated the pace of the game.  Despite the 43rd minute goal, I do not see a huge disparity between the levels of these two teams. 

Right now it's all just mental.

well Hyland break under pressure again and make a bad pass... Guerra better hands down any day than Hyland at passing and dribbling
the man working hard, and had a mistake..actually a very lucky play for US..and you throwin duss in he face ahready ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:08:54 PM
somebody say Hector & Cato ? we need to stop dem running down our wing..our Centre mids having to run out, then they switching to middle..we need two wing mids who will play defence AND offence..

Liked Levi switching flanks.

Pulisic is quicker to the ball against several of our players.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:09:54 PM
Mitchell getting beat easily on the left and Aubrey David getting beat easily on the right, both giving the Americans a lot of chances in the first half of the game.
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they gettin beat cause they have to cover outside & middle...no help outside
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:10:40 PM
Poor defensive clearance right to the feet of a US player at the top of the PK spot caused that goal.  Other than that, T&T has been holding its own, and at times have dictated the pace of the game.  Despite the 43rd minute goal, I do not see a huge disparity between the levels of these two teams. 

Right now it's all just mental.

well Hyland break under pressure again and make a bad pass... Guerra better hands down any day than Hyland at passing and dribbling
the man working hard, and had a mistake..actually a very lucky play for US..and you throwin duss in he face ahready ?

Iz not duss bredda, I want to see mistakes corrected so it will benefit the team
.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:11:27 PM
Poor defensive clearance right to the feet of a US player at the top of the PK spot caused that goal.  Other than that, T&T has been holding its own, and at times have dictated the pace of the game.  Despite the 43rd minute goal, I do not see a huge disparity between the levels of these two teams. 

Right now it's all just mental.

well Hyland break under pressure again and make a bad pass... Guerra better hands down any day than Hyland at passing and dribbling
the man working hard, and had a mistake..actually a very lucky play for US..and you throwin duss in he face ahready ?

Yeah, Contro ... unforced error, but KH has been putting in a decent shift. You could see what he had in mind, but it was high risk. He was trying to bypass midfield (for obvious reasons).
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trini Madness on September 06, 2016, 07:11:38 PM
We playing ok but it seems a bit on the relaxed sidee, which is something I didn't want to see. Kenwyne jogging and losing the ball, he has to realize that he is a target for defenders and has to make some runs, plus on defense we're giving the US too much space. We gotta come back at them 2nd half. Take it to them guys!! Lets go T&T!!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:12:05 PM
somebody say Hector & Cato ? we need to stop dem running down our wing..our Centre mids having to run out, then they switching to middle..we need two wing mids who will play defence AND offence..

Liked Levi switching flanks.

Pulisic is quicker to the ball against several of our players.
to much tryin to outrun and not enuff, bringing team..the outrun not working if a man frame in the way.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: davyjenny1 on September 06, 2016, 07:12:50 PM
Correction on the wings are needed and the service into the final third is lacking, hoping they can pick it up in the 2nd half. including more shots on goal.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:13:44 PM
We playing ok but it seems a bit on the relaxed sidee, which is something I didn't want to see. Kenwyne jogging and losing the ball, he has to realize that he is a target for defenders and has to make some runs, plus on defense we're giving the US too much space. We gotta come back at them 2nd half. Take it to them guys!! Lets go T&T!!!!

Time everyone accepts what type of player the skipper is and is not. You have a different type of forward in mind.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:15:07 PM
Poor defensive clearance right to the feet of a US player at the top of the PK spot caused that goal.  Other than that, T&T has been holding its own, and at times have dictated the pace of the game.  Despite the 43rd minute goal, I do not see a huge disparity between the levels of these two teams. 

Right now it's all just mental.

well Hyland break under pressure again and make a bad pass... Guerra better hands down any day than Hyland at passing and dribbling
the man working hard, and had a mistake..actually a very lucky play for US..and you throwin duss in he face ahready ?

Yeah, Contro ... unforced error, but KH has been putting in a decent shift. You could see what he had in mind, but it was high risk. He was trying to bypass midfield (for obvious reasons).
ah doh even think he was trying nothing but getting rid of the ball, as it was bouncing round the area, he swing he foot, the US player brakes, he do a kinda balls ball trap and the ball happen to stay dey...Luck on goal scrimmage
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Source on September 06, 2016, 07:15:41 PM
We need ah mid field general bad.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:16:15 PM
somebody say Hector & Cato ? we need to stop dem running down our wing..our Centre mids having to run out, then they switching to middle..we need two wing mids who will play defence AND offence..

Liked Levi switching flanks.

Pulisic is quicker to the ball against several of our players.
to much tryin to outrun and not enuff, bringing team..the outrun not working if a man frame in the way.

Incorporating numbers into the attack would require maintaining possession. Looks possible in this game, with a tad more poise and patience.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:16:44 PM
We need ah mid field general bad.


Correck is right!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:18:41 PM
Poor defensive clearance right to the feet of a US player at the top of the PK spot caused that goal.  Other than that, T&T has been holding its own, and at times have dictated the pace of the game.  Despite the 43rd minute goal, I do not see a huge disparity between the levels of these two teams. 

Right now it's all just mental.

well Hyland break under pressure again and make a bad pass... Guerra better hands down any day than Hyland at passing and dribbling
the man working hard, and had a mistake..actually a very lucky play for US..and you throwin duss in he face ahready ?

Yeah, Contro ... unforced error, but KH has been putting in a decent shift. You could see what he had in mind, but it was high risk. He was trying to bypass midfield (for obvious reasons).
ah doh even think he was trying nothing but getting rid of the ball, as it was bouncing round the area, he swing he foot, the US player brakes, he do a kinda balls ball trap and the ball happen to stay dey...Luck on goal scrimmage

I think he was trying to find an advanced player, if not Kenwyne specifically.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:20:40 PM
somebody say Hector & Cato ? we need to stop dem running down our wing..our Centre mids having to run out, then they switching to middle..we need two wing mids who will play defence AND offence..

Liked Levi switching flanks.

Pulisic is quicker to the ball against several of our players.
to much tryin to outrun and not enuff, bringing team..the outrun not working if a man frame in the way.

Incorporating numbers into the attack would require maintaining possession. Looks possible in this game, with a tad more poise and patience.


yup..agree..if they don't open up or come, we doh have to rush forward..patience & poise
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Brownsugar on September 06, 2016, 07:21:50 PM
We need ah mid field general bad.


Correck is right!

Co-sign!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 06, 2016, 07:22:48 PM
Poor defensive clearance right to the feet of a US player at the top of the PK spot caused that goal.  Other than that, T&T has been holding its own, and at times have dictated the pace of the game.  Despite the 43rd minute goal, I do not see a huge disparity between the levels of these two teams. 

Right now it's all just mental.

well Hyland break under pressure again and make a bad pass... Guerra better hands down any day than Hyland at passing and dribbling
the man working hard, and had a mistake..actually a very lucky play for US..and you throwin duss in he face ahready ?

Yeah, Contro ... unforced error, but KH has been putting in a decent shift. You could see what he had in mind, but it was high risk. He was trying to bypass midfield (for obvious reasons).
Contro have some weird axe to grind with Hyland. No matter how good or bad he play.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:24:08 PM
Marvin Phillip is a GOALIE   :applause:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:25:12 PM
Who is that that backed off yards off a driving Pulisic?!!!! Poor decision.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: FF on September 06, 2016, 07:25:21 PM
Ah now reach. What funny was that everything was rosy up until the goal score and den ah start to read bout who is shithound etc.

I know trini football emotional for all of us. But as "die-hards" let's be more realistic in our praise and expectations and less damning in our criticisms.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:25:30 PM
bwtf KJ ? ...man hit the goalie at least nah
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 07:26:02 PM
Contro have some weird axe to grind with Hyland. No matter how good or bad he play.

He still hoping Hardest get another call-up
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:27:17 PM
Ah swear Molino just got fouled! why no call?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:28:53 PM
Didn't see Levi starting this game. Mixed reviews.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:30:19 PM
Beauty... and he had options
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Brownsugar on September 06, 2016, 07:30:58 PM
*sigh*  ah gone with that one......
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:31:18 PM
T&T defender easily beaten by Altidore for the goal
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 07:31:26 PM
dem does jus fall asleep at d wrong time boy steups
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:31:31 PM
bwtf KJ ? ...man hit the goalie at least nah

Was interesting pass selection. Was looking for the final ball to be played inside rather than outside.

Well 2-0. If we keep our second half record alive, we leave JAX with at least a point.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Source on September 06, 2016, 07:32:12 PM
The defence is too slow closing the space.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:33:17 PM
Jomal start topelt calpet, kick, pull shirt..and the man still going...need KJ to know some ah dat
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:33:26 PM
Imagine the mood in Guatemala if they score their target # of goals and we lose.

6-2. Guatemala
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:33:49 PM
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Brownsugar on September 06, 2016, 07:34:04 PM
What de arse I seeing here??  Men tired or sumting??  Ah loss....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:34:09 PM
The defence is too slow closing the space.

the defense still playing short ...whey Joevin doh play in we half or when US have the ball ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 07:34:19 PM
steups
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on September 06, 2016, 07:34:28 PM
Didn't see Levi starting this game. Mixed reviews.
Agreed
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: E-man on September 06, 2016, 07:34:37 PM
why did #2 back off
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 06, 2016, 07:34:58 PM
whappen some men take money or wha... >:(
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:35:05 PM
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:35:17 PM
What de arse I seeing here??  Men tired or sumting??  Ah loss....

 :D T&T defense just giving us some of the same ole same ole
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 07:35:24 PM
Normal service.. etc.

Allyuh know this is a fete match, right. And yes, I know all that you're going to say, but mentally, I don't see us really pressing this one.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: jason23 on September 06, 2016, 07:35:29 PM
yet people will support this kind of play!!! i sit and say nun and anyone who support this kind of play will im totally embarrassed for you sigh
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:36:37 PM
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on September 06, 2016, 07:37:27 PM
Still waiting for Molino to have an effect on a big game for us. Maybe he's saving it for the hex.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:38:15 PM
Pulisic gehhin too much pips in this outing.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Brownsugar on September 06, 2016, 07:38:33 PM
Wait, wait, wait.....did I just hear them say Guatemala get 7 against St. Vincent so far??  Geez and ages..... :frustrated: :nailbiting:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:38:48 PM
America rhel pumping we goal now. Iz like target practice
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Brownsugar on September 06, 2016, 07:39:46 PM
What de arse I seeing here??  Men tired or sumting??  Ah loss....

 :D T&T defense just giving us some of the same ole same ole

*sigh*
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trini Madness on September 06, 2016, 07:39:53 PM
We playing ok but it seems a bit on the relaxed sidee, which is something I didn't want to see. Kenwyne jogging and losing the ball, he has to realize that he is a target for defenders and has to make some runs, plus on defense we're giving the US too much space. We gotta come back at them 2nd half. Take it to them guys!! Lets go T&T!!!!

Time everyone accepts what type of player the skipper is and is not. You have a different type of forward in mind.

I understand that but if you go back to that Mexico game, kenwyne is capable of pulling defenders with him. Letting the surrounding players to attack.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: davyjenny1 on September 06, 2016, 07:41:16 PM
As they say "the beautiful game" when goals are scored the momentum does just shift all of a sudden.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:42:21 PM
4-0 now hmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: FF on September 06, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
I surprised by the expectations and subsequent disappointment at this game
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:42:47 PM
Marvin eh deserve 4.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 07:42:57 PM
well yes boy
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Jayerson on September 06, 2016, 07:43:24 PM
Drubbing!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: royal on September 06, 2016, 07:43:51 PM
Normal service.. etc.

Allyuh know this is a fete match, right. And yes, I know all that you're going to say, but mentally, I don't see us really pressing this one.

then we're not professionals.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on September 06, 2016, 07:43:56 PM
20 mins to go still
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:44:11 PM
Guatemala 7 SVG 2. with plenty left to play. Maybe the message should be relayed to our players so that eliminating the US is understood still to be on the table.  :devil:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:44:18 PM
The only positive from this is we will not be playing Mexico first in the hex because clearly we not ready for the current Mexican side. We have PLENTY work to do
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trini _2026 on September 06, 2016, 07:44:23 PM
who here is impressed
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: neymar10 on September 06, 2016, 07:44:34 PM
Hart do real shit with this team. Where the heck is Cyrus and Sheldon? Where di mudd so and so is George and why di mother so and so is Garcia and Joevin trying to rip men in the first few minutes of the game when they not even winning? Hart chose a bad attacking lineup. You can see in this game Joevin came in with a lot of hot confidence after scoring 2 in the last game and trying to skill and showoff. Stuff like that wont cut it in international football. You have to be humble and defensive. This team is not world cup worthy.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 07:44:54 PM
Brazil vs Colombia is 1-1 and Tsonga is giving Djokovic a light workout.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:45:00 PM
Wait, wait, wait.....did I just hear them say Guatemala get 7 against St. Vincent so far??  Geez and ages..... :frustrated: :nailbiting:

No iz the next way around
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Source on September 06, 2016, 07:45:31 PM
A 17 year old kid is making grown men look like little boys. Maybe this is the best medicine for us right now.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:46:20 PM
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
so what yuh suggest ? doh show up ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:46:29 PM
Ref blow the whistle yes
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: neymar10 on September 06, 2016, 07:47:07 PM
dem men and dem look like they rel fet after that 2-2 struggle with guatemala

i swear dey start of di game like dey overcoming ah long night of hard rum
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on September 06, 2016, 07:47:17 PM
Quite a few attackers who don't want to defend. It doesn't matter how talented they are I'm not sure how much they can play in the hex.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Errol on September 06, 2016, 07:47:33 PM
This is why I have a problem with Hart, we allow teams to come to T&T and advantage us because we had USA to kill in T&T but Hart made Kilnsman to get into his head, with Hart playing caution football, now look when we visit USA, we getting killed.

Win your home game.

Molino is a no show.

Mitchell is poor at passin.

Abu Bakr is a waste.

Hyland is just a stupid footballer.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:47:47 PM
Hart do real shit with this team. Where the heck is Cyrus and Sheldon? Where di mudd so and so is George and why di mother so and so is Garcia and Joevin trying to rip men in the first few minutes of the game when they not even winning? Hart chose a bad attacking lineup. You can see in this game Joevin came in with a lot of hot confidence after scoring 2 in the last game and trying to skill and showoff. Stuff like that wont cut it in international football. You have to be humble and defensive. This team is not world cup worthy.
maybe he give them a rude awakening
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Jumbie on September 06, 2016, 07:48:03 PM
Could this be the excuse DJW was waiting for?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: davyjenny1 on September 06, 2016, 07:48:14 PM
And some say Klinsmann are strange figure out how he approached the game.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:48:32 PM
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
so what yuh suggest ? doh show up ?

So is that the only alternative you see? Why can't they improve?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 07:48:39 PM
The rhythm section sounding good though. Coming on tv clear.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: E-man on September 06, 2016, 07:48:47 PM
attendance 19,410
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 07:50:22 PM
Could this be the excuse DJW was waiting for?

as much as I do not agree with him I do not believe he is hoping for T&T to be whipped and embarrassed in a World Cup qualifier in order to achieve any of his personal motives
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: neymar10 on September 06, 2016, 07:52:29 PM
We was just building up some respect coming from the gold cup now we gon out, hart send out the weakest defense he can possibly make, he we got so and so embarrassed. I hope hart rethink his next lineup because this weak crap wont cut it. And dont ever send out garcia & joevin out there together.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:52:38 PM

This is why I have a problem with Hart, we allow teams to come to T&T and advantage us because we had USA to kill in T&T but Hart made Kilnsman to get into his head, with Hart playing caution football, now look when we visit USA, we getting killed.

Win your home game.

Molino is a no show.

Mitchell is poor at passin.

Abu Bakr is a waste.

Hyland is just a stupid footballer.


and u is the best most skilled supporter ...but no problem with Hart or any of the guys for me, although, Coach will show them how to play better and as someone pointed out..not come out tryin to walk round men like they is cones...bet they will learn something tonight..respect..we will be all right...no matter who cuss and embarassed
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: FF on September 06, 2016, 07:53:49 PM
People ridiculous. 10 years ago we went to the World Cup and 5 years later we couldn't beat Guyana.
5 years on here we are. I still good.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Source on September 06, 2016, 07:53:55 PM
Some of our players lack footballing IQ. We dribbling when a simple pass and running into space would be more effective. Dem fellas believe they is Messi.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:54:17 PM
8-2 Guate.
 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on September 06, 2016, 07:54:30 PM
Let's at least get a goal
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: neymar10 on September 06, 2016, 07:55:04 PM
How di mudda ass hyland playing in beligum and he doh know how to clear out ah ball? Someone tell meh nah
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: neymar10 on September 06, 2016, 07:56:14 PM
Some of our players lack footballing IQ. We dribbling when a simple pass and running into space would be more effective. Dem fellas believe they is Messi.

ah telling yuh

same shit i see garcia and joevin doin at di start of di game as if we 3 up or something
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:57:03 PM
People ridiculous. 10 years ago we went to the World Cup and 5 years later we couldn't beat Guyana.
5 years on here we are. I still good.

This match is an aberration. I think some elements worked in the US' favor. What's NOT an aberration is the US taking advantage of our gift to go 1-0.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:57:49 PM
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
so what yuh suggest ? doh show up ?

So is that the only alternative you see? Why can't they improve?
so that is what they will do...and they have been.. so where u coming with talk " you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result "  You don't think we have improved, because of this game ? I didn't see the last 2 goals, but the 1st 2 was explainable...I see lots of improvement and expect more.. so doh come with like no matter what we do, we go lose..cause every opposition here on in is quality
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: banton on September 06, 2016, 07:57:55 PM
Cant wait to see de rating for hyland ,baka mitchell  and de rest
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 06, 2016, 07:58:09 PM
good learning experience.... the team need to regroup and rethink
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 07:58:42 PM
People ridiculous. 10 years ago we went to the World Cup and 5 years later we couldn't beat Guyana.
5 years on here we are. I still good.

This match is an aberration. I think some elements worked in the US' favor. What's NOT an aberration is the US taking advantage of our gift to go 1-0.
  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: FF on September 06, 2016, 07:58:55 PM
People ridiculous. 10 years ago we went to the World Cup and 5 years later we couldn't beat Guyana.
5 years on here we are. I still good.

This match is an aberration. I think some elements worked in the US' favor. What's NOT an aberration is the US taking advantage of our gift to go 1-0.

Agreed. But this is the team we have to work with. I rather see it for what it is than to needlessly beat them down again
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: neymar10 on September 06, 2016, 07:59:08 PM
can someone tell me why Sheldon & Cyrus didn't start?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 06, 2016, 07:59:25 PM
Cant wait to see de rating for hyland ,baka mitchell  and de rest

Hyland does never have a high rating against big teams... he never shows up... Guerra should be playing in his spot.. we miss cummins as well..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 07:59:29 PM
Hart do real shit with this team. Where the heck is Cyrus and Sheldon? Where di mudd so and so is George and why di mother so and so is Garcia and Joevin trying to rip men in the first few minutes of the game when they not even winning? Hart chose a bad attacking lineup. You can see in this game Joevin came in with a lot of hot confidence after scoring 2 in the last game and trying to skill and showoff. Stuff like that wont cut it in international football. You have to be humble and defensive. This team is not world cup worthy.

Dahis why we have the Hex. Doh throw way de baby wid de bathwater.

Bateau couldn't play due to yellow card accumulation.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: FF on September 06, 2016, 08:00:34 PM
can someone tell me why Sheldon & Cyrus didn't start?

Bateau suspended dude. Pick up a papers
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trini _2026 on September 06, 2016, 08:00:58 PM
we need a striker kenwyne is just not cutting it   we need to add to this group
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 08:01:20 PM
can someone tell me why Sheldon & Cyrus didn't start?
can someone tell me why Sheldon & Cyrus didn't start?
to prepare as MANY players as we can and get them ready for the Hex
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 08:01:28 PM
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
so what yuh suggest ? doh show up ?

So is that the only alternative you see? Why can't they improve?
so that is what they will do...and they have been.. so where u coming with talk " you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result "  You don't think we have improved, because of this game ? I didn't see the last 2 goals, but the 1st 2 was explainable...I see lots of improvement and expect more.. so doh come with like no matter what we do, we go lose..cause every opposition here on in is quality

I will repeat for you (below), do not be mad at me for stating the obvious. I would like to see things change but this is the reality. You cannot sugar coat what is obvious. Tell me how our defense has improved. you going to use the win against St Vincent at home as a measuring stick? Please tell us how the defense has improved. In what capacity has there been improvement?

Quote
Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 08:01:34 PM
Cant wait to see de rating for hyland ,baka mitchell  and de rest

Hyland does never have a high rating against big teams... he never shows up... Guerra should be playing in his spot.. we miss cummins as well..

Defensively, that doh make sense re: Guerra.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 08:02:36 PM
we need a striker kenwyne is just not cutting it   we need to add to this group
I want to say, yeah, maybe..but who you have in mind ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 06, 2016, 08:03:16 PM
9-3 Guatemala. Match in the dregs.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 08:04:15 PM
Ah does always get aamzed to see men brush aside disappointing performances as if it is nothing, then next important game when things do not go the right way they pretend they did not see a trend happening, they are the ones who will say well next WC we will do better, same ones who will say well dem fellas try their best, the old mentality to accept mediocrity is still alive and well.
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 06, 2016, 08:04:49 PM
My take on the game:

• We created enough chances, but the two Jones, Hyland, and Molino need to be more ruthless.

• We missed Bateau.  He is our best CB.  We need to find a way to clear our lines.  That first goal was a frico.

• Our fullbacks were very poor defensively tonite.  We looked ragged when the point of attack was changed.  Tracking the runner coming in on the weak side was nonexistent.  The midfielders have to share some of that blame.

• Looks like Pulisic had a gun in his waist tonite, because we couldn't stop him when he ran with the ball. USA's most promising player in quite a while.  Come Dortmund, Klopp coming back for him again.  He's worth more than the £11 mil we bid for him.  Dortmund will sell at the right price; they will sell their birthright...lol


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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 08:04:58 PM
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
so what yuh suggest ? doh show up ?

So is that the only alternative you see? Why can't they improve?
so that is what they will do...and they have been.. so where u coming with talk " you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result "  You don't think we have improved, because of this game ? I didn't see the last 2 goals, but the 1st 2 was explainable...I see lots of improvement and expect more.. so doh come with like no matter what we do, we go lose..cause every opposition here on in is quality

I will repeat for you (below), do not be mad at me for stating the obvious. I would like to see things change but this is the reality. You cannot sugar coat what is obvious. Tell me how our defense has improved. you going to use the win against St Vincent at home as a measuring stick? Please tell us how the defense has improved. In what capacity has there been improvement?

Quote
Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
So you saying they not improved,ok.. but you also just said they Can..so what you worried about ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: neymar10 on September 06, 2016, 08:05:23 PM
Kenwyne is good.

Di problem is di wingers and midfielders is not supporting him. We have joevin trying to play he is neymar and garcia thinking he is messi. Then molino has nobody to play his passing game with and me an no wuh di so and so go roung with hyland 2day
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 08:06:05 PM
Sando, You do realize we playing quality opposition from here on in..so you stop backing ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 08:06:49 PM
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
So allyuh want me to tell allyuh the same thing I said about T&T defense after the last game? nothing changed with our defense

Different personnel each time. What is the firm ground you standing on?

Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
so what yuh suggest ? doh show up ?

So is that the only alternative you see? Why can't they improve?
so that is what they will do...and they have been.. so where u coming with talk " you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result "  You don't think we have improved, because of this game ? I didn't see the last 2 goals, but the 1st 2 was explainable...I see lots of improvement and expect more.. so doh come with like no matter what we do, we go lose..cause every opposition here on in is quality

I will repeat for you (below), do not be mad at me for stating the obvious. I would like to see things change but this is the reality. You cannot sugar coat what is obvious. Tell me how our defense has improved. you going to use the win against St Vincent at home as a measuring stick? Please tell us how the defense has improved. In what capacity has there been improvement?

Quote
Our defenders are disorganised and slow in defense and it is ALWAYS revealed when playing against quality opposition. And you put any combination of defenders, we getting the same result
So you saying they not improved,ok.. but you also just said they Can..so what you worried about ?

I have said from the beginning they HAVE NOT improved. Reading is fundamental, I am worried about them NOT improving, defenders lack of improvement is one reason they played the way they played today and if they do not improve then expect similar results in the Hex, doh pretend like you do not know wha go happen with a defense playing shit
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 08:07:45 PM
Sando, You do realize we playing quality opposition from here on in..so you stop backing ?

So you know what to expect if the defense give us the same ole poor display right?
.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dynamite Warrior on September 06, 2016, 08:08:34 PM
Don't know why some are so hard on KJ. I saw a play in the first half, a throw in from the right side where Molino and another player stood still like they didn't want to go for the ball and Kenwyne pleading with them to go for something. But these players always want the flick on. Also if you aren't gonna run back on defense then you must score goals. If you rewatch these last two games you'll see Kenwyne working harder than any of the three behind him.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 08:08:50 PM
too many defensive lapses, and d lack of interplay between d front 3 was evident at times, when we needed try and slow it down we rushed it....at times we needed to speed it up but hold it up is like we get confused after d first goal and lost all impetus after ...we need to work on this team mental strength and decision making
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: banton on September 06, 2016, 08:09:37 PM
Cant wait to see de rating for hyland ,baka mitchell  and de rest
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tenorsaw on September 06, 2016, 08:09:41 PM
can someone tell me why Sheldon & Cyrus didn't start?

Bateau suspended dude. Pick up a papers

Lol...man real funny on this forum...ah luv it!


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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on September 06, 2016, 08:10:06 PM
Let's get DeLeon and Bostock cleared for the HEX
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 08:11:44 PM
Good workout fellas. Nobody got injured, and it still have time to go shopping.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 08:12:18 PM
Anyway iz really the same ole mental breakdown I have seen when we play quality teams. Nothing new here.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dutty Love on September 06, 2016, 08:12:44 PM
Can't believe Marshall gets no minutes
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 06, 2016, 08:13:21 PM
Flattering score to the US. We need to take our sharp chances better.

We lost the game in a 15 min period at the start of the second half. That is down to concentration. We will learn. I actually thought we started much better in this game than the last but faded.

We need to reorganize better after conceding, hard lesson to learn. Good time to learn it.

Bad news is we have to hear how good the US is and how bad we are for the next 2 months.

Good news is they underestimate us.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: banton on September 06, 2016, 08:13:41 PM
Let's get DeLeon and Bostock cleared for the HEX
Innis too dah defense need help
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 06, 2016, 08:14:01 PM
Cant wait to see de rating for hyland ,baka mitchell  and de rest

Hyland does never have a high rating against big teams... he never shows up... Guerra should be playing in his spot.. we miss cummins as well..

Defensively, that doh make sense re: Guerra.

What is the point of a defensive midfielder who can't pass nor negotiate a ball safely outside the box..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Source on September 06, 2016, 08:14:53 PM
From my perspective, Hart's experiment didn't work. I will wait to hear his take on the game before I make some objective criticism. The only positive I see is we have some time to fix the head problems. Also, we have some players yet to join the team. I'm looking at 3 players that we may have for the hex.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bianconeri on September 06, 2016, 08:16:07 PM
Hyland, Bakr and David were very disappointing today

David is usually solid so not sure wtf happened


I expect more from hyland. His touch n composure real lacking
George deserves way more mins. So does Caesar
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on September 06, 2016, 08:16:20 PM
Let's get DeLeon and Bostock cleared for the HEX
Innis too dah defense need help
That will be the icing on the cake right there
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 08:16:27 PM
Sando, You do realize we playing quality opposition from here on in..so you stop backing ?

So you know what to expect if the defense give us the same ole poor display right?
.

no..but hope the wing midfielders chosen will help them out a little more by stepping in the way of their players and tackling instead of playing offense and chasing the ball to late, as well as help keep the defensive formation, and not have our defenders, constantly have to deal with 5 on 4, or 7 on 7 if you include the centre midfielders
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 08:17:27 PM
Was it not the same mental breakdown in defense that allowed Guatemala back in the game at home? In this game the US just exposed the same difficiency some more because the US can reveal our weakness more than Guatemala
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: g on September 06, 2016, 08:17:44 PM
We just loss, men pride hurting, mine too.

When things calm down a proper post mortem is required.

Will love to hear the coach post match comments but I think he got his tactics and team selection wrong today.

Redemption will come in the morning. We still have football to play.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Savannah boy on September 06, 2016, 08:18:03 PM
A 17 year old on debut had we farting. We give up a goal against the run in the second half and then we boil down like bhaji. We should have played better. It's not like we was in Foxboro. Rhythm Section making noise and thing. They attacked us down the wings so we need to find answers. Not much time left. On to the Hex.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 08:18:09 PM
Flattering score to the US. We need to take our sharp chances better.

We lost the game in a 15 min period at the start of the second half. That is down to concentration. We will learn. I actually thought we started much better in this game than the last but faded.

We need to reorganize better after conceding, hard lesson to learn. Good time to learn it.

Bad news is we have to hear how good the US is and how bad we are for the next 2 months.

Good news is they underestimate us.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 08:19:41 PM
We just loss, men pride hurting, mine too.

When things calm down a proper post mortem is required.

Will love to hear the coach post match comments but I think he got his tactics and team selection wrong today.

Redemption will come in the morning. We still have football to play.

 :D ah does always hear this kinda talk after we lose and not just lose but lose by playing poorly, should I expect this kinda response God forbid we fail to reach Russia?

yuh right yes, man pride just hurt and one day we will get redemption  :D
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dutty Love on September 06, 2016, 08:19:50 PM
Hyland, Bakr and David were very disappointing today

David is usually solid so not sure wtf happened


I expect more from hyland. His touch n composure real lacking
George deserves way more mins. So does Caesar

USL is about to finish and it's an amateurish league. Not sure how that can play out. Not saying he is a bad player, but putting things in perspective
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trini boi on September 06, 2016, 08:20:34 PM
Hyland played well imo, especially defensively.  Offensively is where we need him a bit more as a central mid.  What was more frustrating was seeing players lose the ball with no contact from the other team. 

Jones had no feed up front, and he should've done better when he was one on one with the US keeper.  What our team is missing is a possessive midfielder.  Joevin seems to be that guy, but he needs to really take the mantle and feed the front better. 

Forum blasting Hart, but it seems that he was experimenting, and I have no problem with that.  Garcia needs to be our super sub, and he needs to be more disciplined and stop trying them small goal moves. 

Biggest positive of the night was our riddim section.  They drowned out the whole stadium  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.  I have more to say, but I'll just continue reading.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 06, 2016, 08:22:01 PM
Bakr lack of pace was glaring.

Honestly 4-2 would have been more accurate. We need composure on our chances... We had 6 shots on goal and more possesion in the first half. We need to improve in two aspects regrouping after conceding and finishes. We were also getting stretched in transition. Thats where all their chances came. We got hit with our own poison.... thats when recovery speed becomes crucial.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: g on September 06, 2016, 08:23:02 PM
We just loss, men pride hurting, mine too.

When things calm down a proper post mortem is required.

Will love to hear the coach post match comments but I think he got his tactics and team selection wrong today.

Redemption will come in the morning. We still have football to play.

 :D ah does always hear this kinda talk after we lose and not just lose but lose by playing poorly, should I expect this kinda response God forbid we fail to reach Russia?

yuh right man pride just hurt and one day we will get redemption  :D
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Nope, if we not good enough we not good enough.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Source on September 06, 2016, 08:23:08 PM
We just loss, men pride hurting, mine too.

When things calm down a proper post mortem is required.

Will love to hear the coach post match comments but I think he got his tactics and team selection wrong today.

Redemption will come in the morning. We still have football to play.
The coach has time to work out the head and fitness problems. This team will be much better when the hex begins.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 08:23:13 PM
We just loss, men pride hurting, mine too.

When things calm down a proper post mortem is required.

Will love to hear the coach post match comments but I think he got his tactics and team selection wrong today.

Redemption will come in the morning. We still have football to play.

yeah levi is not are starter yet lil too selfish, also missed d interplay that people like molino thrive on....we kept trying to go through the wings and usa was ready for it
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on September 06, 2016, 08:25:45 PM
Bakr lack of pace was glaring.

Honestly 4-2 would have been more accurate. We need composure on our chances... We had 6 shots on goal and more possesion in the first half. We need to improve in two aspects regrouping after conceding and finishes. We were also getting stretched in transition. Thats where all their chances came. We got hit with our own poison.... thats when recovery speed becomes crucial.
Well said :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: FF on September 06, 2016, 08:27:19 PM
We just loss, men pride hurting, mine too.

When things calm down a proper post mortem is required.

Will love to hear the coach post match comments but I think he got his tactics and team selection wrong today.

Redemption will come in the morning. We still have football to play.

 :D ah does always hear this kinda talk after we lose and not just lose but lose by playing poorly, should I expect this kinda response God forbid we fail to reach Russia?

yuh right man pride just hurt and one day we will get redemption  :D
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You acting like we does waltz in the World Cup every four years. We went once. Manage your expectations. The good thing about football in these times is we will play America again and there will be a next Hex after that and a next WC too for the foreseeable future.

It will be a long time before we stop being an exceedingly inconsistent team who occasionally punches above their weight. In the meantime you could come with suggestions to get us there instead of crying about the sky falling. Yes we see it, it always looks so.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dutty Love on September 06, 2016, 08:28:25 PM
Jomal Williams has great skills and he is physical. He needs to be turned into a Pogba. That is a key for posession. That also means he can coexist with Joevin playing left winger. Get your most talented players on the field.

USL goalkeeper needs to start. The locals dont cut it

I want to see Marshall Bateau together

Aubrey usually is better than tonight. Mekeil is a lock at left back.

Boucaud is now playing England 5th tier. What other national team in the Hex plays with amateurs?

Cato offers spark and pace on the right side. He also defends decently when RB overlaps.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 08:30:19 PM
We just loss, men pride hurting, mine too.

When things calm down a proper post mortem is required.

Will love to hear the coach post match comments but I think he got his tactics and team selection wrong today.

Redemption will come in the morning. We still have football to play.

 :D ah does always hear this kinda talk after we lose and not just lose but lose by playing poorly, should I expect this kinda response God forbid we fail to reach Russia?

yuh right man pride just hurt and one day we will get redemption  :D
.

You acting like we does waltz in the World Cup every four years. We went once. Manage your expectations. The good thing about football in these times is we will play America again and there will be a next Hex after that and a next WC too for the foreseeable future.

It will be a long time before we stop being an exceedingly inconsistent team who occasionally punches above their weight. In the meantime you could come with suggestions to get us there instead of crying about the sky falling. Yes we see it, it always looks so.

Aye old man doh get tie up. All I do here is give suggestions. I am not one to just be like we will do better next time when I see the same problems happening in each game. You want me to follow this old mentality of accepting mediocrity. I like how you said we punching above our weight, because that is how you want to say we should just be happy to reach where we are ..that right there is bullshit!

So you can sit there and just be content and just be happy to know there will be another WC and another hex every time we fail, On the other hand I will sit here and expect my team to make the absolute best of each opprtunity and blast them when they underachieve.
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bianconeri on September 06, 2016, 08:31:07 PM
USL keeper to start? that's a reach..
let's be real

he hadda pay his dues. he now reach

boucaud and hyland playing as if they are sure picks...
n both were out of it

i disagree with him having a decent game defensively
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 08:32:56 PM
also people talking about molino but we did not play to his strengths until maybe d last 5mins win joevin miss and even dat guatemala game
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dutty Love on September 06, 2016, 08:34:21 PM
USL keeper to start? that's a reach..
let's be real

he hadda pay his dues. he now reach

boucaud and hyland playing as if they are sure picks...
n both were out of it

i disagree with him having a decent game defensively

Let me ask you, would Marvin Phillips and the usual starter not go to USL if they had the option? I think it tells me USL gks although amateurish are better on average. This one in particular starts with the number one team in USL.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: ON DE BLOCK on September 06, 2016, 08:35:07 PM
  the tone of this game is Hart saying to Klinsman "good luck against mexico and costa-rica."
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dutty Love on September 06, 2016, 08:36:54 PM
Triston Hodge will soon be a starter based on what I saw of him and Ricardo John may be a pick soon enough. But they need to move up from USL.

Is Jamal Gay better than Winchester?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: FF on September 06, 2016, 08:38:34 PM
We just loss, men pride hurting, mine too.

When things calm down a proper post mortem is required.

Will love to hear the coach post match comments but I think he got his tactics and team selection wrong today.

Redemption will come in the morning. We still have football to play.

 :D ah does always hear this kinda talk after we lose and not just lose but lose by playing poorly, should I expect this kinda response God forbid we fail to reach Russia?

yuh right man pride just hurt and one day we will get redemption  :D
.

You acting like we does waltz in the World Cup every four years. We went once. Manage your expectations. The good thing about football in these times is we will play America again and there will be a next Hex after that and a next WC too for the foreseeable future.

It will be a long time before we stop being an exceedingly inconsistent team who occasionally punches above their weight. In the meantime you could come with suggestions to get us there instead of crying about the sky falling. Yes we see it, it always looks so.

Aye old man doh get tie up. All I do here is give suggestions. I am not one to just be like we will do better next time when I see the same problems happening in each game. You want me to follow this old mentality of accepting mediocrity. I like how you said we punching above our weight, because that is how you want to say we should just be happy to reach where we are ..that right there is bullshit!

So you can sit there and just be content and just be happy to know there will be another WC and another hex every time we fail, On the other hand I will sit here and expect my team to make the absolute best of each opprtunity and blast them when they underachieve

In no way am I content but I believe I know when to criticize and how.

Maybe I feel the disappointment one too many times and adjusted my worldview. Maybe in the "fullness of time" I wil change my view again.
But you ent know me so you can't talk about accepting mediocrity.

I backing my team. We never beat America in the States and barely anywhere else. So I don't know how that is underachieving now.

If was Guyana fine. Prattle on.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 08:39:01 PM
  the tone of this game is Hart saying to Klinsman "good luck against mexico and costa-rica."

even so if dat were true it says sumting about d second string defense no? and find it highly unlikely dat he jus hang dem out to dry
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 06, 2016, 08:39:41 PM
We just loss, men pride hurting, mine too.

When things calm down a proper post mortem is required.

Will love to hear the coach post match comments but I think he got his tactics and team selection wrong today.

Redemption will come in the morning. We still have football to play.

yeah levi is not are starter yet lil too selfish, also missed d interplay that people like molino thrive on....we kept trying to go through the wings and usa was ready for it

Agreed on Levi. He was holding on to the ball too much. He improved when he switched wings but we can see why Hart doesn't start him yet. I think he leared some hard lessons tonight
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: g on September 06, 2016, 08:40:43 PM
We just loss, men pride hurting, mine too.

When things calm down a proper post mortem is required.

Will love to hear the coach post match comments but I think he got his tactics and team selection wrong today.

Redemption will come in the morning. We still have football to play.

 :D ah does always hear this kinda talk after we lose and not just lose but lose by playing poorly, should I expect this kinda response God forbid we fail to reach Russia?

yuh right man pride just hurt and one day we will get redemption  :D
.

You acting like we does waltz in the World Cup every four years. We went once. Manage your expectations. The good thing about football in these times is we will play America again and there will be a next Hex after that and a next WC too for the foreseeable future.

It will be a long time before we stop being an exceedingly inconsistent team who occasionally punches above their weight. In the meantime you could come with suggestions to get us there instead of crying about the sky falling. Yes we see it, it always looks so.

Aye old man doh get tie up. All I do here is give suggestions. I am not one to just be like we will do better next time when I see the same problems happening in each game. You want me to follow this old mentality of accepting mediocrity. I like how you said we punching above our weight, because that is how you want to say we should just be happy to reach where we are ..that right their is bullshit!

So you can sit there and just be content and just be happy to know there will another WC and another hex overtime we fail, On the other hand I will sit here and expect my team to make the absolute best of each opprtunity and blast them when they underachieve.
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Is the same core group playing for the last 2-3 years barring one or two additions. We all familiar with their strengths and weaknesses. We were poor today but given our full squad progress I honestly find the score line unacceptable. Even with our known individual player deficiencies in certain areas. I have to question the preparation from the coaching staff.

Team selection and tactics all wrong today.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 08:45:04 PM
Some man still do not understand is not about losing but the way we lost, the way we played as the game unravelled! smh

The game was done early in the second half, it was then a practice match for the US
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 06, 2016, 08:46:04 PM
Hart playing dead to catch corbeuax alive.. The US will become overconfident and that leaves them exposed..

The hex will be a different story..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 08:46:49 PM
We just loss, men pride hurting, mine too.

When things calm down a proper post mortem is required.

Will love to hear the coach post match comments but I think he got his tactics and team selection wrong today.

Redemption will come in the morning. We still have football to play.

 :D ah does always hear this kinda talk after we lose and not just lose but lose by playing poorly, should I expect this kinda response God forbid we fail to reach Russia?

yuh right man pride just hurt and one day we will get redemption  :D
.

You acting like we does waltz in the World Cup every four years. We went once. Manage your expectations. The good thing about football in these times is we will play America again and there will be a next Hex after that and a next WC too for the foreseeable future.

It will be a long time before we stop being an exceedingly inconsistent team who occasionally punches above their weight. In the meantime you could come with suggestions to get us there instead of crying about the sky falling. Yes we see it, it always looks so.

Aye old man doh get tie up. All I do here is give suggestions. I am not one to just be like we will do better next time when I see the same problems happening in each game. You want me to follow this old mentality of accepting mediocrity. I like how you said we punching above our weight, because that is how you want to say we should just be happy to reach where we are ..that right their is bullshit!

So you can sit there and just be content and just be happy to know there will another WC and another hex overtime we fail, On the other hand I will sit here and expect my team to make the absolute best of each opprtunity and blast them when they underachieve.
.

Is the same core group playing for the last 2-3 years barring one or two additions. We all familiar with their strengths and weaknesses. We were poor today but given our full squad progress I honestly find the score line unacceptable. Even with our known individual player deficiencies in certain areas. I have to question the preparation from the coaching staff.

Team selection and tactics all wrong today.

I felt that we should have started with d Guatemala line up except play george instead of boucaud
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 06, 2016, 08:47:11 PM
We just loss, men pride hurting, mine too.

When things calm down a proper post mortem is required.

Will love to hear the coach post match comments but I think he got his tactics and team selection wrong today.

Redemption will come in the morning. We still have football to play.

 :D ah does always hear this kinda talk after we lose and not just lose but lose by playing poorly, should I expect this kinda response God forbid we fail to reach Russia?

yuh right man pride just hurt and one day we will get redemption  :D
.

You acting like we does waltz in the World Cup every four years. We went once. Manage your expectations. The good thing about football in these times is we will play America again and there will be a next Hex after that and a next WC too for the foreseeable future.

It will be a long time before we stop being an exceedingly inconsistent team who occasionally punches above their weight. In the meantime you could come with suggestions to get us there instead of crying about the sky falling. Yes we see it, it always looks so.

Aye old man doh get tie up. All I do here is give suggestions. I am not one to just be like we will do better next time when I see the same problems happening in each game. You want me to follow this old mentality of accepting mediocrity. I like how you said we punching above our weight, because that is how you want to say we should just be happy to reach where we are ..that right their is bullshit!

So you can sit there and just be content and just be happy to know there will another WC and another hex overtime we fail, On the other hand I will sit here and expect my team to make the absolute best of each opprtunity and blast them when they underachieve.
.

Is the same core group playing for the last 2-3 years barring one or two additions. We all familiar with their strengths and weaknesses. We were poor today but given our full squad progress I honestly find the score line unacceptable. Even with our known individual player deficiencies in certain areas. I have to question the preparation from the coaching staff.

Team selection and tactics all wrong today.

It was unacceptable. It was also flattering and informative. We had the luxury to not have to grind out a result. We've seen what happens when we do this. See Mexico games last year. We didn't score today which usually distracts us from the our defensive frailty when we play this open. Score on transition conceded in transition. We need to figure out the last part.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 08:48:30 PM
Hart playing dead to catch corbeuax alive.. The US will become overconfident and that leaves them exposed..

The hex will be a different story..
nah dread....it was an experiment dat failed....better it fail now than in d hex...hopefully Hart will be allow d time to learn from it
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: g on September 06, 2016, 08:54:32 PM
Jamaica losing to Haiti 1-0
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 08:54:45 PM
......and we need ah sports psychologist........again d 06 warriors were cool under pressure this team seems to panic a bit
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 08:55:40 PM
Jamaica losing to Haiti 1-0

well that will make us feel better  ;D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 08:57:42 PM

Aye old man doh get tie up. All I do here is give suggestions. I am not one to just be like we will do better next time when I see the same problems happening in each game. You want me to follow this old mentality of accepting mediocrity. I like how you said we punching above our weight, because that is how you want to say we should just be happy to reach where we are ..that right there is bullshit!

So you can sit there and just be content and just be happy to know there will be another WC and another hex every time we fail, On the other hand I will sit here and expect my team to make the absolute best of each opprtunity and blast them when they underachieve.
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ok..so what is your suggestions again, sorry I might have missed it. I wasn't aware that old people (or anybody for that matter) accept mediocrity. I guessing that is a new term of which people who have been following and supporting the team for years would naturally be guilty of. Maybe if we look to cuss and waste down the guys we will be more modern and show we not accepting, and so that new strategy, that we never tried before will cause us to make the grade..and bring us 'old men' (FF, yuh reach) to the forefront of the science of football.  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 08:59:34 PM

Aye old man doh get tie up. All I do here is give suggestions. I am not one to just be like we will do better next time when I see the same problems happening in each game. You want me to follow this old mentality of accepting mediocrity. I like how you said we punching above our weight, because that is how you want to say we should just be happy to reach where we are ..that right there is bullshit!

So you can sit there and just be content and just be happy to know there will be another WC and another hex every time we fail, On the other hand I will sit here and expect my team to make the absolute best of each opprtunity and blast them when they underachieve.
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ok..so what is your suggestions again, sorry I might have missed it. I wasn't aware that old people (or anybody for that matter) accept mediocrity. I guessing that is a new term of which people who have been following and supporting the team for years would naturally be guilty of. Maybe if we look to cuss and waste down the guys we will be more modern and show we not accepting, and so that new strategy, that we never tried before will cause us to make the grade..and bring us 'old men' (FF, yuh reach) to the forefront of the science of football.  :rotfl:

Deal with your personal agenda, dais your problem not mine. You do not like to see criticism hence why you consider it 'wasting down the team'. You rather us baby poor performances and just hope for better by sugarcoating bad results. You could stay dey by yourself with that losing mentality
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 06, 2016, 09:02:26 PM
......and we need ah sports psychologist........again d 06 warriors were cool under pressure this team seems to panic a bit

Yuh know I don't know if its a psychological problem or a lack of concetration when we concede. Psychological would suggest we have a defeatist attitude collectively. I don't think we do.

A sports psychologist wouldn't hurt though
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: FF on September 06, 2016, 09:09:50 PM
Lol. Yeah boy I try to ignore that old man comment.  ;D  I reach in truth yes.
Pass the Ben-gay. I feeling a little creaky.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 09:10:40 PM

Aye old man doh get tie up. All I do here is give suggestions. I am not one to just be like we will do better next time when I see the same problems happening in each game. You want me to follow this old mentality of accepting mediocrity. I like how you said we punching above our weight, because that is how you want to say we should just be happy to reach where we are ..that right there is bullshit!

So you can sit there and just be content and just be happy to know there will be another WC and another hex every time we fail, On the other hand I will sit here and expect my team to make the absolute best of each opprtunity and blast them when they underachieve.
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ok..so what is your suggestions again, sorry I might have missed it. I wasn't aware that old people (or anybody for that matter) accept mediocrity. I guessing that is a new term of which people who have been following and supporting the team for years would naturally be guilty of. Maybe if we look to cuss and waste down the guys we will be more modern and show we not accepting, and so that new strategy, that we never tried before will cause us to make the grade..and bring us 'old men' (FF, yuh reach) to the forefront of the science of football.  :rotfl:

Deal with your personal agenda, dais your problem not mine. You do not like to see criticism hence why you consider it 'wasting down the team'. You rather us baby poor performances and just hope for better by sugarcoating bad results. You could stay dey by yourself with that losing mentality
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well yuh figure me out, and you might be absolutely correct or entirely wrong, don't matter as far as the team winning or losing is concerned but what is your suggestion to help out the team ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 09:14:27 PM

Aye old man doh get tie up. All I do here is give suggestions. I am not one to just be like we will do better next time when I see the same problems happening in each game. You want me to follow this old mentality of accepting mediocrity. I like how you said we punching above our weight, because that is how you want to say we should just be happy to reach where we are ..that right there is bullshit!

So you can sit there and just be content and just be happy to know there will be another WC and another hex every time we fail, On the other hand I will sit here and expect my team to make the absolute best of each opprtunity and blast them when they underachieve.
.

ok..so what is your suggestions again, sorry I might have missed it. I wasn't aware that old people (or anybody for that matter) accept mediocrity. I guessing that is a new term of which people who have been following and supporting the team for years would naturally be guilty of. Maybe if we look to cuss and waste down the guys we will be more modern and show we not accepting, and so that new strategy, that we never tried before will cause us to make the grade..and bring us 'old men' (FF, yuh reach) to the forefront of the science of football.  :rotfl:

Deal with your personal agenda, dais your problem not mine. You do not like to see criticism hence why you consider it 'wasting down the team'. You rather us baby poor performances and just hope for better by sugarcoating bad results. You could stay dey by yourself with that losing mentality
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well yuh figure me out, and you might be absolutely correct or entirely wrong, don't matter as far as the team winning or losing is concerned but what is your suggestion to help out the team ?

I've talked about how the defense need to think faster on their feet and not over commit themselves in one on one situations many times in the past during recent games. I have mentioned how their needs to be more intensity and a zeal to take control by our midfielders. You obviously missed my points.
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: g on September 06, 2016, 09:15:28 PM
Haiti leads Jamaica 2-0

I feel better just typing that

How Wes Morgan won a premier league title is one of the seven wonders of the world
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 09:16:18 PM
Haiti leads Jamaica 2-0

I feel better just typing that

How Wes Morgan won a premier league title is one of the seven wonders of the world

http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=60380.540
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: FF on September 06, 2016, 09:18:01 PM
Sando you need to go down by the team hotel and talk to the staff.

Because maxg ask for your suggestions to HELP out the team. You just Monday morning quarterbacking like everybody else.  ;)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: g on September 06, 2016, 09:18:48 PM
Haiti leads Jamaica 2-0

I feel better just typing that

How Wes Morgan won a premier league title is one of the seven wonders of the world

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 09:18:56 PM
......and we need ah sports psychologist........again d 06 warriors were cool under pressure this team seems to panic a bit

Yuh know I don't know if its a psychological problem or a lack of concetration when we concede. Psychological would suggest we have a defeatist attitude collectively. I don't think we do.

A sports psychologist wouldn't hurt though

nah not defeatist, ah doh tink we defeatist just doh seem able to calm things down and start over when someting goes wrong, yeah we did it against SVG and Guat but mentally we have the measure of those fellas...even mexico but purely because dat particular mex side have ah issue with hustle and maybe still do.....d US sport culture in all about hustle and speed so yuh have to be able to calm tings down and quick or else d last three goals is what will happen........d Saprissa *spellin* is a next place we goh ketch hell if we can't get it together mentally
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 09:22:49 PM

Aye old man doh get tie up. All I do here is give suggestions. I am not one to just be like we will do better next time when I see the same problems happening in each game. You want me to follow this old mentality of accepting mediocrity. I like how you said we punching above our weight, because that is how you want to say we should just be happy to reach where we are ..that right there is bullshit!

So you can sit there and just be content and just be happy to know there will be another WC and another hex every time we fail, On the other hand I will sit here and expect my team to make the absolute best of each opprtunity and blast them when they underachieve.
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ok..so what is your suggestions again, sorry I might have missed it. I wasn't aware that old people (or anybody for that matter) accept mediocrity. I guessing that is a new term of which people who have been following and supporting the team for years would naturally be guilty of. Maybe if we look to cuss and waste down the guys we will be more modern and show we not accepting, and so that new strategy, that we never tried before will cause us to make the grade..and bring us 'old men' (FF, yuh reach) to the forefront of the science of football.  :rotfl:

Deal with your personal agenda, dais your problem not mine. You do not like to see criticism hence why you consider it 'wasting down the team'. You rather us baby poor performances and just hope for better by sugarcoating bad results. You could stay dey by yourself with that losing mentality
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well yuh figure me out, and you might be absolutely correct or entirely wrong, don't matter as far as the team winning or losing is concerned but what is your suggestion to help out the team ?

I've talked about how the defense need to think faster on their feet and not over commit themselves in one on one situations many times in the past during recent games. I have mentioned how their needs to be more intensity and a zeal to take control by our midfielders. You obviously missed my points.
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Obviously, yet, you are aware that this will benefit any footballer, and improve their chances of success. Which is an ideal. OK, I agree, that being said, how could the manager/coaching staff improve on this given his short time frame with the players. What new methods out their can make Trinidad and Tobago defenders (or all players) improve on this. Can this be done by those Professional clubs, that pay them. where they spend most of their training time or their is something Coach can do in the week or days he have them for ? Please elaborate
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 06, 2016, 09:28:34 PM
maxg ah know yuh love Hart, no need to defend him so transparently. I am not calling for Hart to go, doh worry yuh boy safe. Yes this can be done by the clubs, the conversation right now is revolving around the national team so me eh care if the improve at club or under the national coach. I am pointing out the improvement our players should accomplish if they are to stand a chance in the hex next year. No new revelations, same issues we have been having for a long time now. These problems get revealed when we play quality opposition pointing to the question of whether our defense as a team have improved or not.

Concacaf has improved since the last time T&T qualified and the room for mistakes is much more slim this time around.
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 06, 2016, 09:31:31 PM
Last thought. This all out attack with speed on the wings will not work against the US. They have the tools to counter it. It works better against the latin teams. I think we should use this strategy away when we are looking to break serve. We need a better strategy against the US. I think a flat 5 man mid would work better and use Molino's ability in the middle better with intricate passes and building in the middle with Joevin and our other wide men (see our best scoring chance in this game). I think thats how we'll see us play the US in the hex.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bitter on September 06, 2016, 09:38:59 PM
Maybe Guatemala should have paid us to win.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 09:39:09 PM
maxg ah know yuh love Hart, no need to defend him so transparently. I am not calling for Hart to go, doh worry yuh boy safe. Yes this can be done by the clubs, the conversation right now is revolving around the national team so me eh care if the improve at club or under the national coach. I am pointing out the improvement our players should accomplish if they are to stand a chance in the hex next year. No new revelations, same issues we have been having for a long time now. These problems get revealed when we play quality opposition pointing to the question of whether our defense as a team have improved or not.

Concacaf has improved since the last time T&T qualified and the room for mistakes is much more slim this time around.
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so old mentality then..but my point is, Hart bascially could only pick the best he have and try combinations that he believe might work to suite a given opponent, he do not have the capacity or time to teach bring them to their ideal. What he can do is give them a plan to work with. 
add: this one didn't, cause the 'impact' players couldn't make a dent. My issue with them is, once they were on, then find a way to contribute, if not offensively then defensively. Hart cannot run on the field and show them.
Last thought. This all out attack with speed on the wings will not work against the US. They have the tools to counter it. It works better against the latin teams. I think we should use this strategy away when we are looking to break serve. We need a better strategy against the US. I think a flat 5 man mid would work better and use Molino's ability in the middle better with intricate passes and building in the middle with Joevin and our other wide men (see our best scoring chance in this game). I think thats how we'll see us play the US in the hex.
You see , that is what I and others have been saying, with respect to this game, so you don't really think much different from us, with our old mentality. Note we are not only playing the US in the hex, so we will see if some adjustments and personell changes will be made, when we face them again   :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bakes on September 06, 2016, 09:39:44 PM
All I will say is that we reach where we going when our most exciting prospect in 25 years can't dribble past Geoff Cameron and can't run past Michael Bradley.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 09:47:15 PM
All I will say is that we reach where we going when our most exciting prospect in 25 years can't dribble past Geoff Cameron and can't run past Michael Bradley.
he get a lesson tonight, let's hope he learn from it. I was more disappointed niether he nor Joevin was making much tackles defensively, although, they did run back to no avail. There was one point where you could see Hart telling a man pick up the space in the middle, and like the man wasn't going., luckily the ball didn't go to that US man on that instance. The boys good, they talented, but they all have much to learn to achieve their full potential, some will, and some won't. We have to face that reality. Long time Bakes ! How u doing ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 09:53:49 PM
Last thought. This all out attack with speed on the wings will not work against the US. They have the tools to counter it. It works better against the latin teams. I think we should use this strategy away when we are looking to break serve. We need a better strategy against the US. I think a flat 5 man mid would work better and use Molino's ability in the middle better with intricate passes and building in the middle with Joevin and our other wide men (see our best scoring chance in this game). I think thats how we'll see us play the US in the hex.

we missed that...people kept sayin dat he disappeared, but the reality was that the wingers won't playing to his strengths in this game or against guatemala, Molino does create space by pinging d ball of d wide players and d striker...... joevin and levi kept trying to run d flanks at pace when simply slowin things down a touch bringin in molino into d pla woulda create space on d flanks dey needed....argentina showed us that you don't try to out hustle hustlers yuh play around them. and mjolino was not used well at all.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 10:03:02 PM
Last thought. This all out attack with speed on the wings will not work against the US. They have the tools to counter it. It works better against the latin teams. I think we should use this strategy away when we are looking to break serve. We need a better strategy against the US. I think a flat 5 man mid would work better and use Molino's ability in the middle better with intricate passes and building in the middle with Joevin and our other wide men (see our best scoring chance in this game). I think thats how we'll see us play the US in the hex.

we missed that...people kept sayin dat he disappeared, but the reality was that the wingers won't playing to his strengths in this game or against guatemala, Molino does create space by pinging d ball of d wide players and d striker...... joevin and levi kept trying to run d flanks at pace when simply slowin things down a touch bringin in molino into d pla woulda create space on d flanks dey needed....argentina showed us that you don't try to out hustle hustlers yuh play around them. and mjolino was not used well at all.
which means if SH strategy was to inform Levi and JJ to run at them..free reign, then maybe Molino wasn't the person he should have started.but we don't know, there were times there was nowhere to go, and they still tried. no, he either made an error in selection or just tried to teach them something. Again, for me, they should have adjusted and find other ways to contribute more. Coach sholdn't have to tell a National player everything, hence my disappointment in them. I think doh, they will be better for it.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bakes on September 06, 2016, 10:03:29 PM
he get a lesson tonight, let's hope he learn from it. I was more disappointed niether he nor Joevin was making much tackles defensively, although, they did run back to no avail. There was one point where you could see Hart telling a man pick up the space in the middle, and like the man wasn't going., luckily the ball didn't go to that US man on that instance. The boys good, they talented, but they all have much to learn to achieve their full potential, some will, and some won't. We have to face that reality. Long time Bakes ! How u doing ?

I cool man Max, how things?

I ent even touch the work rate... suffice to say there's an incredible amount of daylight between him and Christian Pulisic, but the latter did have a bit of a developmental head start on Levi.  My observation had more to do with his offensive prowess, and the huge reality check that was issued today.  Granted that Geoff Cameron is an PL starter for Stoke City... but he's also 31.  I was dismayed to see Levi get caught on the breakaway by a 29-year old Bradley... with about 1,000 miles on his tires, and never exactly known for his speed.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 06, 2016, 10:25:10 PM
he get a lesson tonight, let's hope he learn from it. I was more disappointed niether he nor Joevin was making much tackles defensively, although, they did run back to no avail. There was one point where you could see Hart telling a man pick up the space in the middle, and like the man wasn't going., luckily the ball didn't go to that US man on that instance. The boys good, they talented, but they all have much to learn to achieve their full potential, some will, and some won't. We have to face that reality. Long time Bakes ! How u doing ?

I cool man Max, how things?

I ent even touch the work rate... suffice to say there's an incredible amount of daylight between him and Christian Pulisic, but the latter did have a bit of a developmental head start on Levi.  My observation had more to do with his offensive prowess, and the huge reality check that was issued today.  Granted that Geoff Cameron is an PL starter for Stoke City... but he's also 31.  I was dismayed to see Levi get caught on the breakaway by a 29-year old Bradley... with about 1,000 miles on his tires, and never exactly known for his speed.

I think you're being overly harsh on the young man in his first real start (other than SVG) I think his talet earns him more chances probably off the bench in the near future. He certainly made a big impact off the bench against Guatemala. Starting and coming off the bench are two totally different things which unlike Pulisic, Levi looks like he will need to learn.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 06, 2016, 10:31:33 PM
he get a lesson tonight, let's hope he learn from it. I was more disappointed niether he nor Joevin was making much tackles defensively, although, they did run back to no avail. There was one point where you could see Hart telling a man pick up the space in the middle, and like the man wasn't going., luckily the ball didn't go to that US man on that instance. The boys good, they talented, but they all have much to learn to achieve their full potential, some will, and some won't. We have to face that reality. Long time Bakes ! How u doing ?

I cool man Max, how things?

I ent even touch the work rate... suffice to say there's an incredible amount of daylight between him and Christian Pulisic, but the latter did have a bit of a developmental head start on Levi.  My observation had more to do with his offensive prowess, and the huge reality check that was issued today.  Granted that Geoff Cameron is an PL starter for Stoke City... but he's also 31.  I was dismayed to see Levi get caught on the breakaway by a 29-year old Bradley... with about 1,000 miles on his tires, and never exactly known for his speed.

Couldn't you deduce that to lack of experience in the Bradley situation? In the case of Geoff, some players have off days tbh, not making excuses but this was a match to experiment and gel, they got a licking but they need a wake up call... I'm glad it came now and not in the hex

I hate to say it but I think the team approached this game without any pressure and played as such.. The intensity wasn't there and tbh the US are happy they scored 4 because Guat put down some serious goals on SVG
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: coache on September 06, 2016, 10:54:11 PM
I dont know if de Coachman wanted to play more free but I dont think the players understood their objectives.

The organization looked suspect to me.Defensive midfield was not present on the night..neither on de ball nor off de ball.
Kenwyne Jones and Joevin Jones and Molino are the best players we have.

We need some real defenders ..BAD!!

We need another Molino in midfield..and a defensive midfielder who could play on both sides of de ball.

We have  wingers but it's up to de coach to plan his attack...right now de players in de dark about dat .

Fitness and speed of play is way below par..I never like de speed in which we play but den say wah..

I strongly feel dat Winchester is just a strongup School boy player..but den dat's jus my opinion..

We qualify fuh de hex  and we have a chance to go to de WC..only if we go in de transfer market and buy some players.

We should buy Balotelli, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol and Pique...we sure to win de WC ..oh yea and a keeper too..we could get DeGea.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 06, 2016, 11:01:46 PM
um hmmmmmm......fraid to ponder if he being serious ......is coache
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: davyjenny1 on September 06, 2016, 11:05:25 PM
Juss so juss so de train derail. No! seriously.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 11:05:46 PM
he get a lesson tonight, let's hope he learn from it. I was more disappointed niether he nor Joevin was making much tackles defensively, although, they did run back to no avail. There was one point where you could see Hart telling a man pick up the space in the middle, and like the man wasn't going., luckily the ball didn't go to that US man on that instance. The boys good, they talented, but they all have much to learn to achieve their full potential, some will, and some won't. We have to face that reality. Long time Bakes ! How u doing ?

I cool man Max, how things?

I ent even touch the work rate... suffice to say there's an incredible amount of daylight between him and Christian Pulisic, but the latter did have a bit of a developmental head start on Levi.  My observation had more to do with his offensive prowess, and the huge reality check that was issued today.  Granted that Geoff Cameron is an PL starter for Stoke City... but he's also 31.  I was dismayed to see Levi get caught on the breakaway by a 29-year old Bradley... with about 1,000 miles on his tires, and never exactly known for his speed.

I think you're being overly harsh on the young man in his first real start (other than SVG) I think his talet earns him more chances probably off the bench in the near future. He certainly made a big impact off the bench against Guatemala. Starting and coming off the bench are two totally different things which unlike Pulisic, Levi looks like he will need to learn.
Not knocking his talent, but talent is not everything..There are still things for him to learn..He will be better, but to anxious to seek that starring role, but the guys we making the mistake from last game.. here is my post from observations of the Guatemala game
Agree with Levi being a spark,and livewire however, imo, he was tryin to do it alone. He kept running away from help and he(or Joevin) should have been back on pappa on their 2nd goal. Williams was completely out of position (mind you, he was covering centre,doh not sure he was needed there) when his man made the free square across goal. CatO was mia 1st half. Bou was not assertive enough 1st half. when they went to 10 men, and few minutes left, Everyone but Levi and George started waiting for final whistle.
Few mistakes, and they capitalized. It won't happen against the US, but the US attack will be better, i feel our best strategy is to have them back up with a Levi, Cato, Ceaser, J Jones, Hyland, George start. Run the youths at them, make them think defense. Meanwhile, we hold our defense solid, with some more defensive holding than Cyrus(who I think is an attacking type defender). KJ, Molino, BouBou in the wings for more game management or Hector, Jomal, if consistent game attack is necessary. This is the most balanced team we ever had, there will be individual errors, but they have been minimal, however, we cannot let teams score on the majority of our lapses, yet we have to score on theirs, as KJ should have, twice.


nb: with the runners I hoped for starting, I left Molino & KJ to come of Bench. And had George & Hyland as my stay home defensive mids. However, would it have changed th result, don't know, hope and cope. The kinda run didn't work, why ? It was to individualistic and to direct. They knew JJ and Garcia would come, they showed it last game. As bakes said though, even so, I didn't think they would be stopped so easily, but I saw their defensive deficiencies in last game, and maybe SH should have addressed it. Maybe he did, but they didn't heed..we don't know, but it must be addressed now, even if they themselves only realize they can't always be the star, and need to share, to get the opportunities. "Ability is nothing without opportunity" Napolen Bonaparte
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 06, 2016, 11:12:26 PM
I dont know if de Coachman wanted to play more free but I dont think the players understood their objectives.

The organization looked suspect to me.Defensive midfield was not present on the night..neither on de ball nor off de ball.
Kenwyne Jones and Joevin Jones and Molino are the best players we have.

We need some real defenders ..BAD!!

We need another Molino in midfield..and a defensive midfielder who could play on both sides of de ball.

We have  wingers but it's up to de coach to plan his attack...right now de players in de dark about dat .

Fitness and speed of play is way below par..I never like de speed in which we play but den say wah..

I strongly feel dat Winchester is just a strongup School boy player..but den dat's jus my opinion..

We qualify fuh de hex  and we have a chance to go to de WC..only if we go in de transfer market and buy some players.

We should buy Balotelli, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol and Pique...we sure to win de WC ..oh yea and a keeper too..we could get DeGea.


:rotfl: :rotfl: we guys might not get they lil match fee coache, abuse yes, pay no..dem ole panyol in takin none ah dat, imagine the black italian fella..you want to see  fight & wwf with DJW, and besides the only WC dem fellas making again is latrine in de yard  :rotfl:

coache mash up the lime with that yes...goodnight..all the best for the Hex everyone..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bakes on September 06, 2016, 11:39:23 PM
I think you're being overly harsh on the young man in his first real start (other than SVG) I think his talet earns him more chances probably off the bench in the near future. He certainly made a big impact off the bench against Guatemala. Starting and coming off the bench are two totally different things which unlike Pulisic, Levi looks like he will need to learn.

"Harsh" how?  There goes that pesky reading comprehension again.  Note the use of "we" in "we reach."  The reality check was for us, present company included, who figured Levi had pace and touches to burn.  All them touches get bottled by Cameron easy easy... and the sight of the pallid Michael Bradley making up a step on Levi near the 18 was in a word, deflating.  It's a commentary on the state of our youth development that our best still has a long way to go, rather than an indictment of the youth himself.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: frico on September 07, 2016, 01:46:01 AM
Reality has struck the Warriors and the supporters,what are we supposed to think after a battering like this.We can't complain about not having our first choice players,we are lucky to be where we are,and I mean LUCKY,LUCKY,LUCKY.This licking tells exactly where we are,just a little better than St.Vincent,we are not better than Guatemala and was lucky to get that point against them.There is no way I can see TT getting out of that Hex,it seems like Mexico,USA,C.R,Pan,Hond and TT will bring up the rear.
FORGET IT TT!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 07, 2016, 04:32:39 AM
They need some REAL friendlies to gel again, this team hasn't played together since St. Vincent.

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 07, 2016, 04:36:21 AM
But thats where we always were.... on par just shading Guatemala, better than Vincy but below the US especially away. Again don't expect us to play them open like that in the hex. Moreover its more important how we play sides like Panama and Honduras. Realistically we are looking for 3rd or 4th at best. Its not all doom and gloom.

Paraguay collect 4 today, Portugal get beat up.

I will hold off on my prediction of woe until after Nov 11th.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: FF on September 07, 2016, 04:37:07 AM
Reality has struck the Warriors and the supporters,what are we supposed to think after a battering like this.We can't complain about not having our first choice players,we are lucky to be where we are,and I mean LUCKY,LUCKY,LUCKY.This licking tells exactly where we are,just a little better than St.Vincent,we are not better than Guatemala and was lucky to get that point against them.There is no way I can see TT getting out of that Hex,it seems like Mexico,USA,C.R,Pan,Hond and TT will bring up the rear.
FORGET IT TT!

Best we save the money and don't go. Save your bandwidth too
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: OutsideMan on September 07, 2016, 05:02:01 AM
My take on the game last night: 

In the first half, T&T was effectively passing the ball, and finding the open man.  We were moving the ball, controlling the tempo, with fellas playing into the space, and moving to attack (though unsuccessful) when the opportunity presented itself.  T&T played a 'team football' and seemed to play to the 'flow' of the game, instead of trying to force the action and chasing the game.  Except for the poor defensive clearance, the focus on defense was pretty admirable, with pressure being applied to the opposition --- although much improvement is still needed. In the first half, the defense also contributed to the attack by distributing the ball with short passes to the open man to alleviate pressure from the opposition attackers.  This was a far cry from the amateurish defensive long-boot we always utilized, which in the past would effectively give the ball back to the opposition, and thus allow for constant counter-attacks on our goal.  The 1st half, our defense played with cool heads (until the 43rd minute), tackling, marking, retrieving the ball, and distributing it from defense and working the ball forward into attack with short passes.     

In the 2nd half, everything broke down.  Our ball movement and passing became almost nil.  Fellas all of a sudden decided to play one-on-one football, instead of the team game that was evident in the 1st half.  The small-ball passing-into-the-space ceased, and the silly over-dribbling took over.  The 2nd half was a return to our 'Hero-Ball' mentality;  Our defensive pressure also ceased, and we ceased 'working' the ball from defense.  We fell into past bad habits of trying to force the play, and we paid the price. 

I'm not sure if it was a mental thing or what.  The team don't yet seem to have an 'identity' as per what defines its game.  From what I see, Hart is rightfully attempting to instill a 'total football' style of play with the team, but probably with the lack of practice time and friendlies, everyone on the team are not always on the same page --- or they not always on the same page for long.  IMHO if T&T played the same game they played in the 1st half, we would have had a higher probability of seeing a better result --- of course nothing is guaranteed, but I am hoping that we do not fall into the trap of throwing-out-the-baby-with-the-bathwater. 

There were some good things from last night's game, but those positives could only really be found in the 1st half.           
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 07, 2016, 05:13:00 AM
The US increased their passing tempo at the end of the first half and the first half of the second half. We did not react well  and try to maintain possesion. Instead we streached the play on the wings. This opened the game up. Usually we score like this but we also concede. The US did enough to stop us scoring and utalised the spaces created especially on their left to poision us.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Errol on September 07, 2016, 05:16:07 AM
Molino and Hyland inconsistency is a problem.

Abu Bakr is another problem.

Mitchell and Mekeil fights but gives away the ball cheaply.

Hart tried to play attacking and I respect him for that.

Levi might have to just stay as a super sub.

A lot of work to be done before November.

We should really go after DeLeon and Inniss.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 07, 2016, 05:26:48 AM
I dont know if de Coachman wanted to play more free but I dont think the players understood their objectives.

The organization looked suspect to me.Defensive midfield was not present on the night..neither on de ball nor off de ball.
Kenwyne Jones and Joevin Jones and Molino are the best players we have.

We need some real defenders ..BAD!!

We need another Molino in midfield..and a defensive midfielder who could play on both sides of de ball.

We have  wingers but it's up to de coach to plan his attack...right now de players in de dark about dat .

Fitness and speed of play is way below par..I never like de speed in which we play but den say wah..

I strongly feel dat Winchester is just a strongup School boy player..but den dat's jus my opinion..

We qualify fuh de hex  and we have a chance to go to de WC..only if we go in de transfer market and buy some players.

We should buy Balotelli, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol and Pique...we sure to win de WC ..oh yea and a keeper too..we could get DeGea.


Yuh should explore these items in a separate post.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 07, 2016, 05:30:14 AM
um hmmmmmm......fraid to ponder if he being serious ......is coache

Dem two nuggets are worthy of exploration.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 07, 2016, 05:36:14 AM
Perhaps Pulisic's contribution was not anticipated. Discuss.

(By the way, reminds of a match Martin Ødegaard played last year in European qualifying. Made some comments on his contribution then, somewhere on the forum. Guess what they have in common).
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 07, 2016, 05:38:11 AM
g, based on all the comments I've read ... you might be best placed to contribute.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: sjahrain on September 07, 2016, 06:28:13 AM
Love your analysis...Outside man spot on from how I saw this game
Two per medonas hamstring alot of the fluid ball movement...J J after running out if real estate has a bad case of dropping his head and trying too hard to go through whom ever is in front of him,he will give up the ball and most times ball watch instead of recovering defensively...saw it against Guat and also last night.
Then there is young Levi..lot to learn and if he wants to start, he must figure how to adjust,the team comes first...many times I have seen KJ letting him know in no uncertain terms,stop being selfish and make that extra pass
Love the first 43 minutes,we moved the ball well but lacked that killer pass or idea in the offensive third and all the US threw at us we did quite well to negotiate our way out of trouble
I thought we bossed the first 43 minutes,then that bad clearance took away all the good which was accomplished and basically we surrendered after that
I will use the first 43 as a blue print and build on it
One concern was the pairing of Abu and Mitchell, I could be incorrect but have they ever played as a tandem before,total mess in communication,I thought Yohance and either one of the two would make more sense
Well that's over...and
The best is yet to come
Hands off my Warriors
Jah bless and keep my Warriors safe for Nov 11 th
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: CAPITANO on September 07, 2016, 06:48:54 AM
We played well in the first half...but Pulisic for the US was too much to handle. Our defenders started backing away from him every time he got the ball
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Marcos on September 07, 2016, 07:19:29 AM
No need to panic. We played a good team in their house. We looked good in spurts and generated a few chances, if converted would have made the scoreline more respectable. I'm happy Hart at least has the team trying to player a "Trini" brand of ball and the players look confident in possession for the most part.

The team clearly was cruising on autopilot and we not good enough yet to do that against top notch opposition.

Even Real Madrid does get bore with a 3 or 4 nil from time to time.Everybody needs to RELAX
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trini Madness on September 07, 2016, 07:32:08 AM
Good morning ladies and gents. I hope you all have recovered from hottin up yuh heads. I for one was frustrated last night but I will support this team until the day I die. Yesterday is gone, tomorrow is a new day. We're capable of beating these teams in the hex. We've shown what we can do when everything is firing on all cylinders, we know we have it within ourselves to bring that fury out again. We can get stronger from here. Keep your heads up guys. Have a blessed day!  :duel:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 07, 2016, 07:32:42 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/sep/07/christian-pulisic-us-soccer-world-cup-qualifiers-2018
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Preacher on September 07, 2016, 07:34:36 AM
Saw Hart's interview.  He's pissed.  I hope JW doh take this as an opportunity to bump he gum and make things worse. 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on September 07, 2016, 07:38:39 AM
My take on the game last night: 

In the first half, T&T was effectively passing the ball, and finding the open man.  We were moving the ball, controlling the tempo, with fellas playing into the space, and moving to attack (though unsuccessful) when the opportunity presented itself.  T&T played a 'team football' and seemed to play to the 'flow' of the game, instead of trying to force the action and chasing the game.  Except for the poor defensive clearance, the focus on defense was pretty admirable, with pressure being applied to the opposition --- although much improvement is still needed. In the first half, the defense also contributed to the attack by distributing the ball with short passes to the open man to alleviate pressure from the opposition attackers.  This was a far cry from the amateurish defensive long-boot we always utilized, which in the past would effectively give the ball back to the opposition, and thus allow for constant counter-attacks on our goal.  The 1st half, our defense played with cool heads (until the 43rd minute), tackling, marking, retrieving the ball, and distributing it from defense and working the ball forward into attack with short passes.     

In the 2nd half, everything broke down.  Our ball movement and passing became almost nil.  Fellas all of a sudden decided to play one-on-one football, instead of the team game that was evident in the 1st half.  The small-ball passing-into-the-space ceased, and the silly over-dribbling took over.  The 2nd half was a return to our 'Hero-Ball' mentality;  Our defensive pressure also ceased, and we ceased 'working' the ball from defense.  We fell into past bad habits of trying to force the play, and we paid the price. 

I'm not sure if it was a mental thing or what.  The team don't yet seem to have an 'identity' as per what defines its game.  From what I see, Hart is rightfully attempting to instill a 'total football' style of play with the team, but probably with the lack of practice time and friendlies, everyone on the team are not always on the same page --- or they not always on the same page for long.  IMHO if T&T played the same game they played in the 1st half, we would have had a higher probability of seeing a better result --- of course nothing is guaranteed, but I am hoping that we do not fall into the trap of throwing-out-the-baby-with-the-bathwater. 

There were some good things from last night's game, but those positives could only really be found in the 1st half.           
Good analysis. Had we gone into the half 0-0, things might've gone differently in the 2nd half. Instead the US gained momentum and we got deflated and it showed early in the 2nd half. Hart spoke about us having to learn to kill games. We gave up a late goal against Guat and a late first half goal last night. Hyland as a senior player should have the wherewithal to know the half is almost over, let's not take any risks and clear that ball HIGH and WIDE. Now we can use these moments as lessons learned as we cannot afford to make these blunders in the next stage.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Jayerson on September 07, 2016, 08:20:33 AM
Marvin Phillip had a good game but there is something about him and Jan Michael that has me often feeling they likely to make a mistake that leads to a goal even when they're playing well.

Molino that plays for Orlando still has not turned up for T&T in this WCQ series so far.

When you're playing a well organised/better team, your offense has to be more clinical and play to your strengths. I can't remember any crosses coming into KJ to in the penalty box.

Bostock is needed in this midfield. This nonsense needs to be sorted out.

When I saw that 17 year, 145 lb Pulisic outfighting our players, I knew we were in trouble. Its one thing if its Altidore doing it, but jeez.

The Caribbean Cup qualifiers, we need to treat that competition very seriously and get our best players. It falls in the FIFA window and we can call our foreign based players. We play Dominican Rep and Martinique and its as useful an exercise as any.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 07, 2016, 08:27:34 AM
My take on the game last night: 

In the first half, T&T was effectively passing the ball, and finding the open man.  We were moving the ball, controlling the tempo, with fellas playing into the space, and moving to attack (though unsuccessful) when the opportunity presented itself.  T&T played a 'team football' and seemed to play to the 'flow' of the game, instead of trying to force the action and chasing the game.  Except for the poor defensive clearance, the focus on defense was pretty admirable, with pressure being applied to the opposition --- although much improvement is still needed. In the first half, the defense also contributed to the attack by distributing the ball with short passes to the open man to alleviate pressure from the opposition attackers.  This was a far cry from the amateurish defensive long-boot we always utilized, which in the past would effectively give the ball back to the opposition, and thus allow for constant counter-attacks on our goal.  The 1st half, our defense played with cool heads (until the 43rd minute), tackling, marking, retrieving the ball, and distributing it from defense and working the ball forward into attack with short passes.     

In the 2nd half, everything broke down.  Our ball movement and passing became almost nil.  Fellas all of a sudden decided to play one-on-one football, instead of the team game that was evident in the 1st half.  The small-ball passing-into-the-space ceased, and the silly over-dribbling took over.  The 2nd half was a return to our 'Hero-Ball' mentality;  Our defensive pressure also ceased, and we ceased 'working' the ball from defense.  We fell into past bad habits of trying to force the play, and we paid the price. 

I'm not sure if it was a mental thing or what.  The team don't yet seem to have an 'identity' as per what defines its game.  From what I see, Hart is rightfully attempting to instill a 'total football' style of play with the team, but probably with the lack of practice time and friendlies, everyone on the team are not always on the same page --- or they not always on the same page for long.  IMHO if T&T played the same game they played in the 1st half, we would have had a higher probability of seeing a better result --- of course nothing is guaranteed, but I am hoping that we do not fall into the trap of throwing-out-the-baby-with-the-bathwater. 

There were some good things from last night's game, but those positives could only really be found in the 1st half.           
Good analysis. Had we gone into the half 0-0, things might've gone differently in the 2nd half. Instead the US gained momentum and we got deflated and it showed early in the 2nd half. Hart spoke about us having to learn to kill games. We gave up a late goal against Guat and a late first half goal last night. Hyland as a senior player should have the wherewithal to know the half is almost over, let's not take any risks and clear that ball HIGH and WIDE. Now we can use these moments as lessons learned as we cannot afford to make these blunders in the next stage.

There it is. Safety first.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 07, 2016, 08:31:05 AM
Saw Hart's interview.  He's pissed.  I hope JW doh take this as an opportunity to bump he gum and make things worse.

In the scheme of things, this outcome is less serious than the thousands of people who struggled to get into the stadium at the home leg. All pronouncements should start there...particularly since we are hosting in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: 100% Barataria on September 07, 2016, 08:35:58 AM
Quick 2 cents folks

Outsideman have it spot on, couldn't agree more.  As much as SandoP irking some (me too at times), his comments regarding our defensive frailties are also spot on, we need to stop ignoring this.  And it's not just our defense, many times in transition, our MF is absent leaving the back four stretched.  That said, the lack of a solid pairing for Bateau is troubling IMO, all the other CBs are capable, but can tell that Hart is in a quandary on this one. 

Lastly, our mentality works against us, whenever we are top dog or assured of something (Haiti Copa qual, this game, dare I say 11/19) we oftentimes fail.  It's a TT pschye that is difficult to break.  It's clear that Hart has tried by repeatedly saying "we have not achieved anything yet"...not sure how you address this either, but would be great if we figured out how...

FF, will lend you my icy hot  ;D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Deeks on September 07, 2016, 08:37:38 AM
What! Frico! You abandon we so early?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 07, 2016, 08:49:03 AM
Could this be the excuse DJW was waiting for?

By ANY analysis, that would be unmerited and premature. And, I would be willing to drape the big Warrior Nation flag around me to assert that ... regardless of whether anyone joins me in protest.

Proper decision-making should not stem from machinated excuses.

One has to believe that good sense will prevail.

However, it's clear to me that on the ground in-country there are forces who seem inclined to substitute their judgement for SH's judgement.

We live and die by our decisions ... even good ones.  We certainly tend to "die" when bad decisons are made for good reasons and vice versa. In both circumstances, nuclear fallout is inevitable.

Hold strain, presi. We still fattening the calf.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 07, 2016, 08:54:49 AM
What! Frico! You abandon we so early?

And so easily.

Perhaps more than any other occasion in the last decade, I was disappointed rather than stoic. However, as I heard this week ... an error doesn't become a mistake unless yuh doh fix it. Something to that effect.

Error-fixing time, coachman. Yuh likely hadda apply the sword to the neck(s) that need cutting. Gut check time.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 07, 2016, 09:15:29 AM

Hart reactions after 4-0 loss to United States in Jacksonville

https://www.youtube.com/v/BCk1yiam7gk
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 07, 2016, 09:16:13 AM
^^ I agree with Hart, he said too many of our leaders tonight disappeared!
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on September 07, 2016, 09:23:30 AM
What! Frico! You abandon we so early?

And so easily.

Perhaps more than any other occasion in the last decade, I was disappointed rather than stoic. However, as I heard this week ... an error doesn't become a mistake unless yuh doh fix it. Something to that effect.

Error-fixing time, coachman. Yuh likely hadda apply the sword to the neck(s) that need cutting. Gut check time.
Yup now is time to do like Pep and straighten things out...like how he put the sword to Hart (gk) neck easy easy. Even thought he's England's #1, he wasn't cutting it for what Pep wants.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 07, 2016, 09:28:45 AM
^^ Listen to Hart, three of the goals US scored was due to T&T's sloppy passing. he said in the first half we were looking 'ok' and not 'very good'..we were not getting shots on goals.

Now when I say these things man does get emotional and want to say I wasting down the team. Now take it from the Coach!
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: benedicts bwoy on September 07, 2016, 09:29:05 AM
https://youtu.be/H4X6-T8nx2A

The captain's comments...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 07, 2016, 09:29:38 AM
https://youtu.be/H4X6-T8nx2A

The captain's comments...

He should be ashamed of his performance, I know Hart was disappointed in him
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 07, 2016, 10:25:50 AM
I actually a little disappointed in Hart not taking some of the blame himself.. Unless of course the players didn't play to instruction. It was evident to me there was a need to change tactics in the second half and that just didn't happen....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: pull stones on September 07, 2016, 11:01:31 AM
Hart playing dead to catch corbeuax alive.. The US will become overconfident and that leaves them exposed..

The hex will be a different story..
how's that, did hart personally confide in you??
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 07, 2016, 11:15:03 AM
The fact that both Aubrey David and Daniel Cyrus both had a torrid time in the same position means the problem is not simply their play but the wingers failing to track back like so many others have said. How do we fix this while maintaining our attacking edge?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: pull stones on September 07, 2016, 11:20:22 AM
Good morning ladies and gents. I hope you all have recovered from hottin up yuh heads. I for one was frustrated last night but I will support this team until the day I die. Yesterday is gone, tomorrow is a new day. We're capable of beating these teams in the hex. We've shown what we can do when everything is firing on all cylinders, we know we have it within ourselves to bring that fury out again. We can get stronger from here. Keep your heads up guys. Have a blessed day!  :duel:
yes all that is true, but we are in serious need of a capable starting goal keeper a central defender and a right full back.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 07, 2016, 11:23:22 AM
The fact that both Aubrey David and Daniel Cyrus both had a torrid time in the same position means the problem is not simply their play but the wingers failing to track back like so many others have said. How do we fix this while maintaining our attacking edge?

Did they have a torrid time for the same reason?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dutty Love on September 07, 2016, 11:35:04 AM
Good morning ladies and gents. I hope you all have recovered from hottin up yuh heads. I for one was frustrated last night but I will support this team until the day I die. Yesterday is gone, tomorrow is a new day. We're capable of beating these teams in the hex. We've shown what we can do when everything is firing on all cylinders, we know we have it within ourselves to bring that fury out again. We can get stronger from here. Keep your heads up guys. Have a blessed day!  :duel:
yes all that is true, but we are in serious need of a capable starting goal keeper a central defender and a right full back.

You guys havent seen Marshall playing in Ascenso MX? The level is that of MLS.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: trini supporter on September 07, 2016, 11:42:48 AM
Like i said in another thread after the Guatemala game our defense is seriously lacking communication and chemistry which resulted in 3 of the 4 goals we got. We had a pretty solid first 35 mins or so then it started to fall away. Jomal and Winchester were not good especially Winchester listened to the commentary on i95.5 where they were pounding him was saying he isnt the standard of an international baller 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: pull stones on September 07, 2016, 11:45:47 AM
Like i said in another thread after the Guatemala game our defense is seriously lacking communication and chemistry which resulted in 3 of the 4 goals we got. We had a pretty solid first 35 mins or so then it started to fall away. Jomal and Winchester were not good especially Winchester listened to the commentary on i95.5 where they were pounding him was saying he isnt the standard of an international baller
he isn't, that's no mystery, so is marvin phillip.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 07, 2016, 11:48:47 AM
This team just needs to play more. Have to win our Caribbean Cup games in October and move from there. I think we play DR and Martinique one at home and one away. Need to beat both and build chemistry.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 07, 2016, 12:23:50 PM
Contro have some weird axe to grind with Hyland. No matter how good or bad he play.

He still hoping Hardest get another call-up

At least an out of form, overweight hardest can dribble and pass a ball with the best of them, what the hell is Hyland doing? One of the worse passers on the team I've ever seen and he plays a central role in the mid..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 07, 2016, 12:40:29 PM
Is there another interview ? Did Hart say anything about the defense. I heard he said, to summarize, Leaders didn't step up, we had ok possession in the 1st, no shots, thus not good. he would have to re-evaluate his selective process (for me, that is taking some blame). I guess he could have said, "I was out-coached ". but remember another man get fired for that.
 Sando, who got emotional about your criticism, certainly not me, as i tried to reason and discuss with you.Even doh you were tryin to be rude and dismissive. I with man old mentality and level of playing experience, would hardly get emotional over a football result, or discussion of such and during our discussion/disagreement as per not it being the defense fault, others expressed their opinion, and didn't bother to argue. We all want the same thing, but I won't sell my soul for us to reach a world cup. And take it from a old man, i think you shouldn't either. Yet it all yours. Sorry, don't think Hart supported your defense argument. But it's ok, we all see the elephant in the room, i'm sure coach Hart will try to get it out the house, meanwhile it ain't kill nobody YET. It might, but if we all work together and coax it out, we all will be better for it, even if 2006 didn't prove it to be.  :praying:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on September 07, 2016, 02:19:27 PM
The Road to World Cup Glory is like any road in Trinbago... Plenty Traffic, deep Potholes, minor and major Accidents, Police with Speed gun, and a$$hole drivers cuttin in front trying to delay you from getting to your destination.....

That's all last night was a lil bump on the way to our destination... The course has been set, the car have plenty gas and the drivers and Passengers healthy... Onward to our destination #Russia2018....    :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Deeks on September 07, 2016, 03:54:42 PM
"I was out-coached ".

Never say that, max!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Deeks on September 07, 2016, 03:55:17 PM
Guys, I did not see the game, but ....... :-\
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: neymar10 on September 07, 2016, 04:23:05 PM
Guys let's be real here, our attackers HAVE potential to do great. And the mid field can always be fix especially with Bostock coming in.

I think the main problem is our defense which we cannot improve in with the current lineup. The best is Bateau and even Bateau himself can be inconsistent. He's just like Hyland. One minute they good next minute they make moves like they playing secondary school football. I think either we start looking for more solid defenders from overseas (if any are available) and local. Williams and David been disappointing so far. Cyrus as well. I remember all these defenders played extremely well in the gold cup, but something is wrong in the WCQ so far. Maybe Hart changed his coaching or something because something I've noticed in the defense is these guys aren't clearing out the balls with heart anymore. They're trying to hold position of the ball in the back. Before, they were clearing out everything inside the box, like amateurs holding on to a rope for their life, which was GREAT for us because it saved us from conceding. Now recently, we're trying to hold position in the back there as if we're a world class team, which we're not. We cannot play like that. Clear the ball out. Defend with heart. I think coach Hart has a lot of blame in the way the team is playing.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 07, 2016, 04:29:56 PM
Guys let's be real here, our attackers HAVE potential to do great. And the mid field can always be fix especially with Bostock coming in.

I think the main problem is our defense which we cannot improve in with the current lineup. The best is Bateau and even Bateau himself can be inconsistent. He's just like Hyland. One minute they good next minute they make moves like they playing secondary school football. I think either we start looking for more solid defenders from overseas (if any are available) and local. Williams and David been disappointing so far. Cyrus as well. I remember all these defenders played extremely well in the gold cup, but something is wrong in the WCQ so far. Maybe Hart changed his coaching or something because something I've noticed in the defense is these guys aren't clearing out the balls with heart anymore. They're trying to hold position of the ball in the back. Before, they were clearing out everything inside the box, like amateurs holding on to a rope for their life, which was GREAT for us because it saved us from conceding. Now recently, we're trying to hold position in the back there as if we're a world class team, which we're not. We cannot play like that. Clear the ball out. Defend with heart. I think coach Hart has a lot of blame in the way the team is playing.

So let me get this straight, hyland playing for a top club in Belgium but can't dribble in the box and clear it properly but you blaming hart for that?

Hyland has been mediocre for years... Sub par at times, it amazes me he is playing abroad.. He has done nothing for our midfield ..

I much rather prefer Cummins and Guerra, at least they can dribble and pass.. Hylands lack of quality has nothing to do with Hart..

To be honest with you guys, I feel an arrangement was made.. US wasn't taking chances and needed to prove they are a good team...

Football is corrupt, keep that in mind..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: maxg on September 07, 2016, 04:31:09 PM
 :D
"I think either we start looking for more solid defenders from overseas (if any are available) and local. "
http://www.tinydeal.com/sports-outdoor-c-398.html
I check here but this store seem sold out

Man, u really want to go back to boom kick, and defending... we doh have Latapy, Yorke , Stern John, Cornell Glen etc anymoe you know..  Everybody glad to see no more Boomkick  and then u going so far to say we not a world class team...so why try to play world class football..to go to a world class tournament...is just...ahhh...hmmm...confusing
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 07, 2016, 05:12:45 PM
Guys let's be real here, our attackers HAVE potential to do great. And the mid field can always be fix especially with Bostock coming in.

I think the main problem is our defense which we cannot improve in with the current lineup. The best is Bateau and even Bateau himself can be inconsistent. He's just like Hyland. One minute they good next minute they make moves like they playing secondary school football. I think either we start looking for more solid defenders from overseas (if any are available) and local. Williams and David been disappointing so far. Cyrus as well. I remember all these defenders played extremely well in the gold cup, but something is wrong in the WCQ so far. Maybe Hart changed his coaching or something because something I've noticed in the defense is these guys aren't clearing out the balls with heart anymore. They're trying to hold position of the ball in the back. Before, they were clearing out everything inside the box, like amateurs holding on to a rope for their life, which was GREAT for us because it saved us from conceding. Now recently, we're trying to hold position in the back there as if we're a world class team, which we're not. We cannot play like that. Clear the ball out. Defend with heart. I think coach Hart has a lot of blame in the way the team is playing.

So let me get this straight, hyland playing for a top club in Belgium but can't dribble in the box and clear it properly but you blaming hart for that?

Hyland has been mediocre for years... Sub par at times, it amazes me he is playing abroad.. He has done nothing for our midfield ..

I much rather prefer Cummins and Guerra, at least they can dribble and pass.. Hylands lack of quality has nothing to do with Hart..

To be honest with you guys, I feel an arrangement was made.. US wasn't taking chances and needed to prove they are a good team...

Football is corrupt, keep that in mind..

Like yuh close to calling names.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dinner Mints on September 07, 2016, 05:47:01 PM
...I think either we start looking for more solid defenders from overseas (if any are available) ...
Ryan Inniss still good? Ah see Crystal Palace loaning him out all over the place. Might be right up we alley.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Deeks on September 07, 2016, 06:57:55 PM
To be honest with you guys, I feel an arrangement was made.. US wasn't taking chances and needed to prove they are a good team...

Football is corrupt, keep that in mind..



Contro, you was going good until you reach this part. You saying the guys sellout. Nah, Breds, they lost fair and square. The played good first half by all the comments I heard, and then allowed themselves to be blown away in the second. Nah, I don't think so.


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Zeppo on September 07, 2016, 07:20:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/80pIl_XpQWs
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Deeks on September 07, 2016, 07:47:59 PM
Looking at the goal, the ball appear to hit the US forward's arm. Hyland's clearance came off his arm.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: ffisback on September 07, 2016, 08:52:05 PM
This has to be the biggest defeat the U S A has inflicted on TT in a WC game Heart has proven that he cannot coach at this level if he remains at the helm its all downhill from here Heart will bring TT back to the days of B ST Clair when TT use to get so much goals in we tail.
MR Williams has to make his 1st serious decision do I fire his backside now and piss off the locals or wait  till its after 3 to 4 games when the campaign is on its death bed like TT normally does, I await your decision MR Williams.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Spursy on September 07, 2016, 10:18:37 PM
Guys, I did not see the game, but ....... :-\

Cmon.. I was hearing Klinnsman cussing dem men in the first half saying "you want Jamaica all over again" etc he was really harsh. Face it, USA wanted the win more - and our guys was playing the game just for fun trying not to get injured. It was a good game- I thought this tnt side kept the ball well and moved it well for the majority of the game- However, USA was quicker to the ball and YES we came out hard then after 40 mins we bun. So it's not that we didnt play well, we just didnt pace ourselves well. I saw the team opening 40 mins playing high up the pitch and forcing errors keeping the ball in the opposition area.. this is unprecedented and if it wasnt for some poor finishing and movement in the USA box we could of scored atleast 5.

Hart matched Jurgens team - we looked good. This scoreline flatters the USA - after the first goal momentum shifted and this is b.c US was solid at the back - it seemed like a mountain to climb - then the team became complacent in a 20 min span and gifted the game to a gasping desperate USA side. Moments I was worried about is when Alitdore went 1 on 1 with abu bakr and won the battle.. this should never happen.. gotta work on ur fitness... oh and Pulusic.. that kid is always in the gym he talked about it on his interview.. he is small so he is working hard on his physicality.. he is pacey good ball control and if u dont take him down he will keep running at u.

Gratz to USA and a good lesson learnt for TNT .. alot of data to process and areas to work on.. if we had won ... we wouldnt care to improve now we know what we have to do to qualify - concentration for full 95 mins.. 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dutty Love on September 07, 2016, 10:25:11 PM
This has to be the biggest defeat the U S A has inflicted on TT in a WC game Heart has proven that he cannot coach at this level if he remains at the helm its all downhill from here Heart will bring TT back to the days of B ST Clair when TT use to get so much goals in we tail.
MR Williams has to make his 1st serious decision do I fire his backside now and piss off the locals or wait  till its after 3 to 4 games when the campaign is on its death bed like TT normally does, I await your decision MR Williams.

If they do go with a new coach, I would go with either an Italian with small side Serie A experience because those coaches are master at tactics and know how to defend and play counterattack to win games 1-0 which should be the goal for T&T as quality wise the other teams are superior in depth. If you don't think so, take Honduras probably the weakest side among the other 5 and their young forward Albert Ellis is a new signing of Club Monterrey which is leaps and bounds above MLS quality or even Belgium League for that matter. T&T has players like Cesar and Winchester, or Plaza.

Another option would be an experienced Concacaf man. Only few namea come to mind. Bob Bradley or Paulo Wanchope or a former Mexico National Team coach. Maybe Aguirre.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 07, 2016, 10:28:18 PM
This has to be the biggest defeat the U S A has inflicted on TT in a WC game Heart has proven that he cannot coach at this level if he remains at the helm its all downhill from here Heart will bring TT back to the days of B ST Clair when TT use to get so much goals in we tail.
MR Williams has to make his 1st serious decision do I fire his backside now and piss off the locals or wait  till its after 3 to 4 games when the campaign is on its death bed like TT normally does, I await your decision MR Williams.

If they do go with a new coach, I would go with either an Italian with small side Serie A experience because those coaches are master at tactics and know how to defend and play counterattack to win games 1-0 which should be the goal for T&T as quality wise the other teams are superior in depth. If you don't think so, take Honduras probably the weakest side among the other 5 and their young forward Albert Ellis is a new signing of Club Monterrey which is leaps and bounds above MLS quality or even Belgium League for that matter. T&T has players like Cesar and Winchester, or Plaza.

Another option would be an experienced Concacaf man. Only few namea come to mind. Bob Bradley or Paulo Wanchope or a former Mexico National Team coach. Maybe Aguirre.



Allyuh men gone mad or wha... A game that didn't matter in terms of qualifying and you're ready to hang him out to dry..

Don't be foolish..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Spursy on September 07, 2016, 10:55:12 PM
Quote

Allyuh men gone mad or wha... A game that didn't matter in terms of qualifying and you're ready to hang him out to dry..

Don't be foolish..
ya ... I mean cmon .. this team stringing passed together.. fighting hard even at 4-0 there is quality in this team - it is a far cry from the long hoping ball days. Be proud and support the team in good and bad ... this is our team for the hex - Save the negativity for the big teams who under achieve - our boys already over achieved by reaching the hex. Imagine Jamaica - Haiti, El Salvador, Canada all not there. Be proud and show your support and if u can contribute in a positive way do so.. but nothing good will ever come out of blasting your players - give them confidence.. yes Hyland made a bad pass in big games thats all it takes to lose a game - he was the one that scored against Guatemala away u forget that? or you guys just have selective memory??..  we have no yorke no latas and to be honest this group played way better than any other I can remember in history in terms of attacking in the modern game. The 06 warriors were solid at the back and they still get hit for 7 against mexico. remember that?

I gorn dey.. And I am very very proud. This team will make us proud even if they dont qualify I am satisfied.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dutty Love on September 08, 2016, 05:57:29 AM
Quote

Allyuh men gone mad or wha... A game that didn't matter in terms of qualifying and you're ready to hang him out to dry..

Don't be foolish..
ya ... I mean cmon .. this team stringing passed together.. fighting hard even at 4-0 there is quality in this team - it is a far cry from the long hoping ball days. Be proud and support the team in good and bad ... this is our team for the hex - Save the negativity for the big teams who under achieve - our boys already over achieved by reaching the hex. Imagine Jamaica - Haiti, El Salvador, Canada all not there. Be proud and show your support and if u can contribute in a positive way do so.. but nothing good will ever come out of blasting your players - give them confidence.. yes Hyland made a bad pass in big games thats all it takes to lose a game - he was the one that scored against Guatemala away u forget that? or you guys just have selective memory??..  we have no yorke no latas and to be honest this group played way better than any other I can remember in history in terms of attacking in the modern game. The 06 warriors were solid at the back and they still get hit for 7 against mexico. remember that?

I gorn dey.. And I am very very proud. This team will make us proud even if they dont qualify I am satisfied.

Since Gold Cup 2015, how many games di T&T win and against who including friendlies? I count the away win to Guatemala and the two wins with power house SVG. My church team fields more quality than SVG.

Losses to powerhouse Haiti, China, Peru and Uruguay. Most losses are with scores of 3 or 4 goals against.

The best games they had last year were the two versus Mexico where they still gave up 7 goals.

Really the only team T&T has been able to beat in the last two years is Guatemala which never made it to the World Cup

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Storeboy on September 08, 2016, 06:33:45 AM
My take on the game last night: 

In the first half, T&T was effectively passing the ball, and finding the open man.  We were moving the ball, controlling the tempo, with fellas playing into the space, and moving to attack (though unsuccessful) when the opportunity presented itself.  T&T played a 'team football' and seemed to play to the 'flow' of the game, instead of trying to force the action and chasing the game.  Except for the poor defensive clearance, the focus on defense was pretty admirable, with pressure being applied to the opposition --- although much improvement is still needed. In the first half, the defense also contributed to the attack by distributing the ball with short passes to the open man to alleviate pressure from the opposition attackers.  This was a far cry from the amateurish defensive long-boot we always utilized, which in the past would effectively give the ball back to the opposition, and thus allow for constant counter-attacks on our goal.  The 1st half, our defense played with cool heads (until the 43rd minute), tackling, marking, retrieving the ball, and distributing it from defense and working the ball forward into attack with short passes.     

In the 2nd half, everything broke down.  Our ball movement and passing became almost nil.  Fellas all of a sudden decided to play one-on-one football, instead of the team game that was evident in the 1st half.  The small-ball passing-into-the-space ceased, and the silly over-dribbling took over.  The 2nd half was a return to our 'Hero-Ball' mentality;  Our defensive pressure also ceased, and we ceased 'working' the ball from defense.  We fell into past bad habits of trying to force the play, and we paid the price. 

I'm not sure if it was a mental thing or what.  The team don't yet seem to have an 'identity' as per what defines its game.  From what I see, Hart is rightfully attempting to instill a 'total football' style of play with the team, but probably with the lack of practice time and friendlies, everyone on the team are not always on the same page --- or they not always on the same page for long.  IMHO if T&T played the same game they played in the 1st half, we would have had a higher probability of seeing a better result --- of course nothing is guaranteed, but I am hoping that we do not fall into the trap of throwing-out-the-baby-with-the-bathwater. 

There were some good things from last night's game, but those positives could only really be found in the 1st half.           
I know we have a lot of work to do.  I know it is a great challenge for us. I am realistic about our chances, but this the best analysis of the game I saw. And I was in the lower level, Center, Row L. for the game. All the naysayers will jump back on the bandwagon after one win.
I am a Warrior til I die!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 08, 2016, 06:55:56 AM
Quote

Allyuh men gone mad or wha... A game that didn't matter in terms of qualifying and you're ready to hang him out to dry..

Don't be foolish..
ya ... I mean cmon .. this team stringing passed together.. fighting hard even at 4-0 there is quality in this team - it is a far cry from the long hoping ball days. Be proud and support the team in good and bad ... this is our team for the hex - Save the negativity for the big teams who under achieve - our boys already over achieved by reaching the hex. Imagine Jamaica - Haiti, El Salvador, Canada all not there. Be proud and show your support and if u can contribute in a positive way do so.. but nothing good will ever come out of blasting your players - give them confidence.. yes Hyland made a bad pass in big games thats all it takes to lose a game - he was the one that scored against Guatemala away u forget that? or you guys just have selective memory??..  we have no yorke no latas and to be honest this group played way better than any other I can remember in history in terms of attacking in the modern game. The 06 warriors were solid at the back and they still get hit for 7 against mexico. remember that?

I gorn dey.. And I am very very proud. This team will make us proud even if they dont qualify I am satisfied.

Since Gold Cup 2015, how many games di T&T win and against who including friendlies? I count the away win to Guatemala and the two wins with power house SVG. My church team fields more quality than SVG.

Losses to powerhouse Haiti, China, Peru and Uruguay. Most losses are with scores of 3 or 4 goals against.

The best games they had last year were the two versus Mexico where they still gave up 7 goals.

Really the only team T&T has been able to beat in the last two years is Guatemala which never made it to the World Cup

Can your church team score three (3) goals against Guatemala in Guatemala?  ;D I would imagine allyuh good for 9, but ...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dutty Love on September 08, 2016, 07:01:13 AM
Quote

Allyuh men gone mad or wha... A game that didn't matter in terms of qualifying and you're ready to hang him out to dry..

Don't be foolish..
ya ... I mean cmon .. this team stringing passed together.. fighting hard even at 4-0 there is quality in this team - it is a far cry from the long hoping ball days. Be proud and support the team in good and bad ... this is our team for the hex - Save the negativity for the big teams who under achieve - our boys already over achieved by reaching the hex. Imagine Jamaica - Haiti, El Salvador, Canada all not there. Be proud and show your support and if u can contribute in a positive way do so.. but nothing good will ever come out of blasting your players - give them confidence.. yes Hyland made a bad pass in big games thats all it takes to lose a game - he was the one that scored against Guatemala away u forget that? or you guys just have selective memory??..  we have no yorke no latas and to be honest this group played way better than any other I can remember in history in terms of attacking in the modern game. The 06 warriors were solid at the back and they still get hit for 7 against mexico. remember that?

I gorn dey.. And I am very very proud. This team will make us proud even if they dont qualify I am satisfied.

Since Gold Cup 2015, how many games di T&T win and against who including friendlies? I count the away win to Guatemala and the two wins with power house SVG. My church team fields more quality than SVG.

Losses to powerhouse Haiti, China, Peru and Uruguay. Most losses are with scores of 3 or 4 goals against.

The best games they had last year were the two versus Mexico where they still gave up 7 goals.

Really the only team T&T has been able to beat in the last two years is Guatemala which never made it to the World Cup

Can your church team score three (3) goals against Guatemala in Guatemala?  ;D I would imagine allyuh good for 9, but ...

PDL teams are better than SVG
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tobago28 on September 08, 2016, 07:03:26 AM
Excellent first 20 minutes by the Warriors.The final 70 show that as a team we are not emotionally, physically, and mentally prepared to play 90 minutes like we did the first 20. The game to me was a referendum on Hart's tactics and approach to the all but the last game. The game is proof that Hart knows his players, knows the level of the competition and has developed an approach that works. First 5 qualifying games undefeated, adjusted tactics lose 4-0.

A final note, on all the Christian Pulisic what I call over hype. The same Christian Pulisic was completely shut down last year in Concacaf U17 WC Qualification by our Noah Powder(then U17 Captain). Its a year later and players develop but I was shocked to see him dominate our defense when last year he could not do anything against our U17(though we lost 2-0).

Watch the highlights, Pulisic wearing the Number 10 but no part of the match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzX-u9CeHAY
 

Either our Men's National defense poor, Pulisic improve tremendously in 18 months or Hart need to call in young Noah Powder.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: pull stones on September 08, 2016, 07:23:30 AM
Excellent first 20 minutes by the Warriors.The final 70 show that as a team we are not emotionally, physically, and mentally prepared to play 90 minutes like we did the first 20. The game to me was a referendum on Hart's tactics and approach to the all but the last game. The game is proof that Hart knows his players, knows the level of the competition and has developed an approach that works. First 5 qualifying games undefeated, adjusted tactics lose 4-0.

A final note, on all the Christian Pulisic what I call over hype. The same Christian Pulisic was completely shut down last year in Concacaf U17 WC Qualification by our Noah Powder(then U17 Captain). Its a year later and players develop but I was shocked to see him dominate our defense when last year he could not do anything against our U17(though we lost 2-0).

Watch the highlights, Pulisic wearing the Number 10 but no part of the match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzX-u9CeHAY
 

Either our Men's National defense poor, Pulisic improve tremendously in 18 months or Hart need to call in young Noah Powder.
watching this clip only reaffirms our uncommitted mentality as a people in the world of sports. take a look at the urgency and the body language of the american players in comparison to the local lads, it's leap and bounds in favor of the americans.

trinidad and tobago needs to come to terms with the notion of, and our approach to competition, which begs the question, are we really up for the task and to make the serious effort needed to compete well? if our players start with this mentality it's obvious that it would take quite a bit of time to wean them of this lacks anyhow modus operandi as is still evident with quite a few of our senior players.

there must be proper youth training programs like they do in england and germany to curb bad habits and create a winning mentality from a very early age. i wish all academy owners the best of luck including mr sherwood, stern john and all the brave souls who embarks on such a difficult task.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 08, 2016, 08:18:43 AM
Quote

Allyuh men gone mad or wha... A game that didn't matter in terms of qualifying and you're ready to hang him out to dry..

Don't be foolish..
ya ... I mean cmon .. this team stringing passed together.. fighting hard even at 4-0 there is quality in this team - it is a far cry from the long hoping ball days. Be proud and support the team in good and bad ... this is our team for the hex - Save the negativity for the big teams who under achieve - our boys already over achieved by reaching the hex. Imagine Jamaica - Haiti, El Salvador, Canada all not there. Be proud and show your support and if u can contribute in a positive way do so.. but nothing good will ever come out of blasting your players - give them confidence.. yes Hyland made a bad pass in big games thats all it takes to lose a game - he was the one that scored against Guatemala away u forget that? or you guys just have selective memory??..  we have no yorke no latas and to be honest this group played way better than any other I can remember in history in terms of attacking in the modern game. The 06 warriors were solid at the back and they still get hit for 7 against mexico. remember that?

I gorn dey.. And I am very very proud. This team will make us proud even if they dont qualify I am satisfied.

Since Gold Cup 2015, how many games di T&T win and against who including friendlies? I count the away win to Guatemala and the two wins with power house SVG. My church team fields more quality than SVG.

Losses to powerhouse Haiti, China, Peru and Uruguay. Most losses are with scores of 3 or 4 goals against.

The best games they had last year were the two versus Mexico where they still gave up 7 goals.

Really the only team T&T has been able to beat in the last two years is Guatemala which never made it to the World Cup

Can your church team score three (3) goals against Guatemala in Guatemala?  ;D I would imagine allyuh good for 9, but ...

PDL teams are better than SVG

How much would your church league team geh from a PDL squad? Doh answer that.  :)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Storeboy on September 08, 2016, 08:30:15 AM
:D
"I think either we start looking for more solid defenders from overseas (if any are available) and local. "
http://www.tinydeal.com/sports-outdoor-c-398.html
I check here but this store seem sold out

Man, u really want to go back to boom kick, and defending... we doh have Latapy, Yorke , Stern John, Cornell Glen etc anymoe you know..  Everybody glad to see no more Boomkick  and then u going so far to say we not a world class team...so why try to play world class football..to go to a world class tournament...is just...ahhh...hmmm...confusing
Boomkick is valuable sometimes. When it was necessary to desperately get the ball out of the box with US players occupying our defensive third, we failed to do so.  But just booming every time the ball is played into the box is not a winning strategy.  It is a matter of judgement which our players failed to apply appropriately. I hope we can solve it before November.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Dutty Love on September 08, 2016, 08:34:48 AM
Quote

Allyuh men gone mad or wha... A game that didn't matter in terms of qualifying and you're ready to hang him out to dry..

Don't be foolish..
ya ... I mean cmon .. this team stringing passed together.. fighting hard even at 4-0 there is quality in this team - it is a far cry from the long hoping ball days. Be proud and support the team in good and bad ... this is our team for the hex - Save the negativity for the big teams who under achieve - our boys already over achieved by reaching the hex. Imagine Jamaica - Haiti, El Salvador, Canada all not there. Be proud and show your support and if u can contribute in a positive way do so.. but nothing good will ever come out of blasting your players - give them confidence.. yes Hyland made a bad pass in big games thats all it takes to lose a game - he was the one that scored against Guatemala away u forget that? or you guys just have selective memory??..  we have no yorke no latas and to be honest this group played way better than any other I can remember in history in terms of attacking in the modern game. The 06 warriors were solid at the back and they still get hit for 7 against mexico. remember that?

I gorn dey.. And I am very very proud. This team will make us proud even if they dont qualify I am satisfied.

Since Gold Cup 2015, how many games di T&T win and against who including friendlies? I count the away win to Guatemala and the two wins with power house SVG. My church team fields more quality than SVG.

Losses to powerhouse Haiti, China, Peru and Uruguay. Most losses are with scores of 3 or 4 goals against.

The best games they had last year were the two versus Mexico where they still gave up 7 goals.

Really the only team T&T has been able to beat in the last two years is Guatemala which never made it to the World Cup

Can your church team score three (3) goals against Guatemala in Guatemala?  ;D I would imagine allyuh good for 9, but ...

PDL teams are better than SVG

How much would your church league team geh from a PDL squad? Doh answer that.  :)

Depends if the pastor referee is biased 😇
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Bakes on September 08, 2016, 08:45:33 AM
A final note, on all the Christian Pulisic what I call over hype.

-----

Either our Men's National defense poor, Pulisic improve tremendously in 18 months or Hart need to call in young Noah Powder.

I would agree with 'over hype'... Thomas Tuchel, Juergen Klinsmann and Juergen Klopp are overhyped know-nothings as well.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 08, 2016, 10:49:15 AM
A final note, on all the Christian Pulisic what I call over hype.

-----

Either our Men's National defense poor, Pulisic improve tremendously in 18 months or Hart need to call in young Noah Powder.

I would agree with 'over hype'... Thomas Tuchel, Juergen Klinsmann and Juergen Klopp are overhyped know-nothings as well.

Sarcasm is still strong I see.

He hyped for a reason. Let see if he can maintain. Moreover lets see if he gets playing time this year at BVB. That would make a big statement.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 08, 2016, 10:57:04 AM
Kid already did the damage as things stand today. Nothing else to see here. When we meet him again, we meet him again. Whatever happens at Dortmund or not.

Some ppl stuck on his age, buh like many ignoring ... when he is on the field he is a PLAYER. Straight up subject to the same success or failure as any other player.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trini on September 08, 2016, 12:04:38 PM
RE: Coach Hart -  moot point, as we have no money for anyone else as an upgrade.

He has definitely brought us back up from mediocrity over the last few years. Given our history getting to the HEX is an achievement. The Gold Cup run last time around was as well. Interspersed in there also are the 2 performances vs Mexico (4-4 and 3-3).

But like everyone else I am very concerned about the team shape/defense.

Doesn't matter if this game didn't have much bearing on us, its a national WCQ, so it is important. It was indeed a spineless display, esp in the second half.

With this kind of defensive form, we will easily come in dead last in the HEX.

We are in the HEX, but alarm bells are ringing loudly.

We need wholesale changes in terms of defense and team shape, and the Carib Cup is the place to tweak it.

I hope four all our sake Hart and our players are up to the task. If we can get this in order, we can make a serious run at that 3rd automatic spot. If not, we will have to settle for the achievement of making the HEX.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: palos on September 08, 2016, 12:40:52 PM
This has to be the biggest defeat the U S A has inflicted on TT in a WC game Heart has proven that he cannot coach at this level if he remains at the helm its all downhill from here Heart will bring TT back to the days of B ST Clair when TT use to get so much goals in we tail.
MR Williams has to make his 1st serious decision do I fire his backside now and piss off the locals or wait  till its after 3 to 4 games when the campaign is on its death bed like TT normally does, I await your decision MR Williams.

Welcome back shabazz.  How Guyana doin?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Marcos on September 08, 2016, 02:13:27 PM
Well said Palos. Moderators we need a like button on this forum
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on September 08, 2016, 03:17:21 PM
I haven't read all the posts. So I don't know if anyone mentioned this or something along this line. We are prone to make a lot of easy mistakes in the back when Bateau is away. This is what always leads to the sh1t goals. .
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 08, 2016, 04:05:33 PM
Well said Palos. Moderators we need a like button on this forum

he want we to go back playing aimless boom kick football dat he does coach
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: King Deese on September 08, 2016, 04:26:21 PM
Young and upcoming star Pulisic outplayed, out impacted Levi Garcia for best young and upcoming players to watch in CONCACAF, by his performance in the USA's game against TnT.. Pulisic made a difference on the field and he maintained his focus throughout the 90 minutes he was on the field. He was definitely one of the reasons why the USA won 4 - 0.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on September 08, 2016, 04:27:25 PM
This has to be the biggest defeat the U S A has inflicted on TT in a WC game Heart has proven that he cannot coach at this level if he remains at the helm its all downhill from here Heart will bring TT back to the days of B ST Clair when TT use to get so much goals in we tail.
MR Williams has to make his 1st serious decision do I fire his backside now and piss off the locals or wait  till its after 3 to 4 games when the campaign is on its death bed like TT normally does, I await your decision MR Williams.

BIG WET STEUPSSS
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: sjahrain on September 08, 2016, 04:49:16 PM
ffisback
Star you need to inhale,that would clear up your thought processes
Or please let me know that brand you are using,so I can avoid the madness.... :devil:
Rastafari.....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 08, 2016, 05:32:35 PM
This has to be the biggest defeat the U S A has inflicted on TT in a WC game Heart has proven that he cannot coach at this level if he remains at the helm its all downhill from here Heart will bring TT back to the days of B ST Clair when TT use to get so much goals in we tail.
MR Williams has to make his 1st serious decision do I fire his backside now and piss off the locals or wait  till its after 3 to 4 games when the campaign is on its death bed like TT normally does, I await your decision MR Williams.

BIG WET STEUPSSS

Shabazz talking he nonsense and just hating.. Leave him, he don't know about top level coaching...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: ffisback on September 08, 2016, 09:15:18 PM
If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 08, 2016, 09:17:57 PM
If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

you must have drink some new rum called 'stupid'.

Jamaica has not scored one goal in their last four WC qualifying games and failed to win at home. So you continue to drink your 'stupid'
.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Controversial on September 08, 2016, 09:49:42 PM
If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

The haterade you drinking in full supply ent
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: g on September 09, 2016, 05:09:56 AM
If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.


circa Rene Simoes.... negative!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 09, 2016, 07:30:03 AM
If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.
So wait u want fire coach dat make d hex for one dat didn't......BWDMC is dis is readin here boy.... Steups be gone please.

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 09, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
Allyuh studyin Shabazz and he shit :rotfl:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: frico on September 09, 2016, 09:15:46 AM
A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on September 09, 2016, 09:23:27 AM
If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

 :flamethrower: :flamethrower: FOH
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 09, 2016, 09:26:42 AM
A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

What were your thoughts in November following the scoreless draw at home versus the same opponent?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 09, 2016, 09:55:40 AM

Levi Garcia is back home and he gave his opinion on the recent match against the US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6j_SR77P-w
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Mose on September 09, 2016, 11:40:23 AM
Arrow in disguise???

If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on September 09, 2016, 12:18:24 PM
A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

In the Hex for 2006 World Cup Qualification, Guatemala soundly defeated Trinidad and Tobago 5-1. Guess who went to the 2006 World Cup and guess who didn't.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: frico on September 09, 2016, 01:04:47 PM
TallmanI understand all the twists and turns of sports,I know how things can change very quickly,the thing is,as a supporter I am worried after that USA game.Harte is looking too cool,and isn't saying enough about how bad we were.TBH we haven't had a good match since the GC,forget SVG,Guatemala hit them for 9.When the the likes of CR,Hond,Panama,USA,El Sal,Jam and USA play,I doubt their supporters ever think they will be beaten 4-0,We TT supporters always on tenterhooks,we always wondering,will we be bad or very bad,I'm certain of that.
There is no way we can sanitize that performance.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on September 09, 2016, 01:06:56 PM
If I was MR Williams I would be calling  Jamaica to see if they could lend us there coach for the hex since they already knock out.

The rules of logic are clearly absent here. Winnie is not that bad of a coach.  But Hart is much better. Winnie only have the name/resume. We will see how long that lasts as he is on his way out.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 09, 2016, 01:31:22 PM
TallmanI understand all the twists and turns of sports,I know how things can change very quickly,the thing is,as a supporter I am worried after that USA game.Harte is looking too cool,and isn't saying enough about how bad we were.TBH we haven't had a good match since the GC,forget SVG,Guatemala hit them for 9.When the the likes of CR,Hond,Panama,USA,El Sal,Jam and USA play,I doubt their supporters ever think they will be beaten 4-0,We TT supporters always on tenterhooks,we always wondering,will we be bad or very bad,I'm certain of that.
There is no way we can sanitize that performance.

U eh ha no belly fuh this it seems.  We lay ah egg in a meaningless game as it pertained to qualification.  Get over it already!  This is very much the same team that been going toe to toe with Mexico so the talent is there and the ability is there.  All this hysteria over what, a game we had the luxury to lose?  When last was T&T in the position to lose a game without fear in qualifying for any tournament?  The house is not on fire relax!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Storeboy on September 09, 2016, 02:06:02 PM
TallmanI understand all the twists and turns of sports,I know how things can change very quickly,the thing is,as a supporter I am worried after that USA game.Harte is looking too cool,and isn't saying enough about how bad we were.TBH we haven't had a good match since the GC,forget SVG,Guatemala hit them for 9.When the the likes of CR,Hond,Panama,USA,El Sal,Jam and USA play,I doubt their supporters ever think they will be beaten 4-0,We TT supporters always on tenterhooks,we always wondering,will we be bad or very bad,I'm certain of that.
There is no way we can sanitize that performance.

U eh ha no belly fuh this it seems.  We lay ah egg in a meaningless game as it pertained to qualification.  Get over it already!  This is very much the same team that been going toe to toe with Mexico so the talent is there and the ability is there.  All this hysteria over what, a game we had the luxury to lose?  When last was T&T in the position to lose a game without fear in qualifying for any tournament?  The house is not on fire relax!

Well said!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on September 09, 2016, 02:23:01 PM
So yes the game was meaningless in terms of us having qualified however the way we played was very pathetic, even our coach said the leaders disappeared and we played badly. So it is just not about losing but how we lose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCk1yiam7gk&spfreload=10
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on September 09, 2016, 02:40:12 PM
So yes the game was meaningless in terms of us having qualified however the we played was very pathetic, even our coach said the leaders disappeared and we played badly. So it is just not about losing but how we lose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCk1yiam7gk&spfreload=10
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I can appreciate that viewpoint.  I just find some are grossly overreacting to this.  If at the beginning of the Hex we were told you will qualify with a game in hand, most would be in disbelief because we are use to living on the edge.  Many were very worried about Guatemala despite our record against them.  We did what we needed with a game to spare.  Was the second half bad, yeah but not enough to drive me crazy.  First goal despite how much people want to pong Hyland was simply unfortunate.  If he had just swipe when it come and he miss or slice it everybody would have crucified him the same way.  Instead he controlled and tried to get it out of the box.  The US player was fortunate in that despite it bouncing off him it literally fell right at his feet.  Had they cleared that ball I don't anticipate 4-0.  There is nothing I saw in that game that cannot be rectified.  Honestly many before the game had their own opinions but with a game to spare that was an opportunity to give the lesser used players a run out.  We had nothing to lose and may at some point need them.  If only we was a set of supporters that not always forecasting gloom and doom and itching to talk about which players is shit and who brainless...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: FF on September 09, 2016, 02:51:33 PM
Not too long ago in the very recent past, both Costa Rica and Honduras was also in crisis. Things change very quickly indeed
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 09, 2016, 03:24:04 PM
we lost the plot a bit in d second half and now we know that we need to reign in our young winger and help dem work on their decision making we also now know that flat out wing play is a bad idea against d states and that we are better when mix it up and keep our center mids involved......we also know dat our wingers need to pull their weight in defense and track back.......I jus thankful dat we learn all these lessons in a somewhat meaningless game. d panic button doh need pressin jus yet........and now we have ah concrete idea of where d team is as opposed to where it need to be to compete in d hex, cause it only gets tougher from here, I good with no home losses and qualification with ah game in hand......from d outside lookin in I imagine plenty people tink we overachieve given what came before

All I want now is for d prez to get good friendly dat d first team can actually be available for and we will have an even better yard stick to judge by

I see dis loss as having provided valuable data....what we do with dat data will ultimately determine what happens next.

 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: ffisback on September 09, 2016, 07:22:12 PM
Not too long ago in the very recent past, both Costa Rica and Honduras was also in crisis. Things change very quickly indeed
Yes that's because they change coach's so hopefully MR Williams do the same.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: ffisback on September 09, 2016, 07:35:22 PM
A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

In the Hex for 2006 World Cup Qualification, Guatemala soundly defeated Trinidad and Tobago 5-1. Guess who went to the 2006 World Cup and guess who didn't.
If TT had kept that same coach that was soundly defeated by Guatemala 5-1 guess who would not have gone to the 2006 WC.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Tallman on September 09, 2016, 08:14:16 PM
A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

In the Hex for 2006 World Cup Qualification, Guatemala soundly defeated Trinidad and Tobago 5-1. Guess who went to the 2006 World Cup and guess who didn't.
If TT had kept that same coach that was soundly defeated by Guatemala 5-1 guess who would not have gone to the 2006 WC.

Or you could say if that coach didn't get us to de Hex, we woulda never hear about Beenhakker. When Beenhakker took over, he won one game and then lost the next two. The whole point is that getting beat 4-0 by the USA, while disappointing, is not a great predictor of whether or not we will qualify for the World Cup. USA beat Costa Rica 4-0 at Copa America. Does dat mean CR doh have a good chance of getting to the World Cup?

The game is not mathematics. In football, two plus two very rarely equals four - it's usually three or five and sometimes zero.
-- Leo Beenhakker
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: 100% Barataria on September 09, 2016, 10:00:12 PM
Tell dem yayon!  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: soccerman on September 10, 2016, 06:04:59 PM
Yea preach Tallman :chilling:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: ffisback on September 11, 2016, 12:10:31 AM
A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

In the Hex for 2006 World Cup Qualification, Guatemala soundly defeated Trinidad and Tobago 5-1. Guess who went to the 2006 World Cup and guess who didn't.
If TT had kept that same coach that was soundly defeated by Guatemala 5-1 guess who would not have gone to the 2006 WC.

Or you could say if that coach didn't get us to de Hex, we woulda never hear about Beenhakker. When Beenhakker took over, he won one game and then lost the next two. The whole point is that getting beat 4-0 by the USA, while disappointing, is not a great predictor of whether or not we will qualify for the World Cup. USA beat Costa Rica 4-0 at Copa America. Does dat mean CR doh have a good chance of getting to the World Cup?

The game is not mathematics. In football, two plus two very rarely equals four - it's usually three or five and sometimes zero.
-- Leo Beenhakker
Or you could say that both S Heart and B St Clair were lucky to get the weakest groups in the semifinal rounds in which they both struggled to get to the Hex not to encouraging ,losing 4-0 in a friendly is not important but losing 4-0 to your nemesis B or C team with your team near full strength in a WC game is damming there is no way S Heart should have a job after that game.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 11, 2016, 04:16:32 AM
A 4 nil beating belongs to the Andoras of this football world,not a team with aspirations of Russia 2018,very serious questions must asked of the coach and players,are they really good enough.If they could be so easily mauled by the USA,who IMO is never a big scoring team,then what are we to think.As a supporter you must worry about our chances,worrying about our chances is one thing,but just look at the game,you cannot see anything good about their game,we were also bad against Guatemala,but very lucky.
Someone on this site mentioned changing the coach,that shouldn't be out of the question.

In the Hex for 2006 World Cup Qualification, Guatemala soundly defeated Trinidad and Tobago 5-1. Guess who went to the 2006 World Cup and guess who didn't.
If TT had kept that same coach that was soundly defeated by Guatemala 5-1 guess who would not have gone to the 2006 WC.

Or you could say if that coach didn't get us to de Hex, we woulda never hear about Beenhakker. When Beenhakker took over, he won one game and then lost the next two. The whole point is that getting beat 4-0 by the USA, while disappointing, is not a great predictor of whether or not we will qualify for the World Cup. USA beat Costa Rica 4-0 at Copa America. Does dat mean CR doh have a good chance of getting to the World Cup?

The game is not mathematics. In football, two plus two very rarely equals four - it's usually three or five and sometimes zero.
-- Leo Beenhakker
Or you could say that both S Heart and B St Clair were lucky to get the weakest groups in the semifinal rounds in which they both struggled to get to the Hex not to encouraging ,losing 4-0 in a friendly is not important but losing 4-0 to your nemesis B or C team with your team near full strength in a WC game is damming there is no way S Heart should have a job after that game.
No way he should have his job after loosing ah pretty much inconsequential game after fulfilling d main objective? Jealousy and spite is hell of ah ting oui, typical crab......is how much time u fail to qualify d women in concacaf again?



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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: sjahrain on September 11, 2016, 09:19:42 AM
Man deserves a one way ticket BACK to Guyana.... :devil:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 11, 2016, 07:22:53 PM
What dotishness I reading here. We had a bad half we learnt what not to do, we had the luxury to do so, we move on.

Seeing all kinda man with axe to grind coming out the woodwork. Men spewing all kind of un resurched vitriol  (allyuh ever read the comments on the ttfa Facebook page) now it reach here too. Gone from here with yuh unproductive negativity bring something constructive to the table. :pissedoff:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 11, 2016, 08:22:35 PM
have we ever started the hex well.....because we have to start this one on good footing or we may find ourselves in trouble.....especially since we lost some steam in these last two games, hopefully we ketch back some form for CFU....how much off d first team would be available for dat
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: pull stones on September 11, 2016, 09:13:09 PM
have we ever started the hex well.....because we have to start this one on good footing or we may find ourselves in trouble.....especially since we lost some steam in these last two games, hopefully we ketch back some form for CFU....how much off d first team would be available for dat
you have time to waste with such comments? and if that's jamal shabbaz incognito then he's quite a jealous malicious bloke especially when he was torn to pieces by estonia of all countries and edged out by cuba for the caribbean cup title.

i for one am truly happy that we received that blow out by uncle samuel's boyz, i think the lads were getting a bit ahead of themselves and this aught to keep them focused on the task ahead. as for jamal shabbaz, according to my indian grand mother he was beaten like a cobra in the last semis and failed to win one single game yet he's back coaching guyana. mate i think you should take your own advice before render it to others.

as for coach hart i have on gripe with his tactics vs the united states and that is not playing greg ranjitsingh in goal. we already saw what marvin and funcet is made of now is time to see if this feller could excel at an international level, and i think he can. football is that peculiar, sometimes winning could be as simple as who you have in goal.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: lefty on September 12, 2016, 03:37:35 AM
have we ever started the hex well.....because we have to start this one on good footing or we may find ourselves in trouble.....especially since we lost some steam in these last two games, hopefully we ketch back some form for CFU....how much off d first team would be available for dat
you have time to waste with such comments? and if that's jamal shabbaz incognito then he's quite a jealous malicious bloke especially when he was torn to pieces by estonia of all countries and edged out by cuba for the caribbean cup title.

i for one am truly happy that we received that blow out by uncle samuel's boyz, i think the lads were getting a bit ahead of themselves and this aught to keep them focused on the task ahead. as for jamal shabbaz, according to my indian grand mother he was beaten like a cobra in the last semis and failed to win one single game yet he's back coaching guyana. mate i think you should take your own advice before render it to others.

as for coach hart i have on gripe with his tactics vs the united states and that is not playing greg ranjitsingh in goal. we already saw what marvin and funcet is made of now is time to see if this feller could excel at an international level, and i think he can. football is that peculiar, sometimes winning could be as simple as who you have in goal.
Kinda make dat comment in d wrong thread. But doh we ever started d hex flying

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Trin on September 17, 2016, 09:11:16 AM
Pulisic making Darmstadt defense look far worse than ours....
Title: Tactical Analysis: USA 4-0 Trinidad and Tobago
Post by: Tallman on October 01, 2016, 11:06:39 AM
Tactical Analysis: USA 4-0 Trinidad and Tobago
By Brian Smith (thefalse9.com
)

The US Men’s National Soccer team closed out the opening round of World Cup 2018 qualifying with a comprehensive and emphatic 4-0 victory of Trinidad & Tobago.  The visitors at times enjoyed a few extended spells of possession, but were unable to breakdown the US’ fairly compact defensive block.  With their place in the Hexagonal already confirmed, T&T looked content to defend and counter attack applying little pressure as the US rolled to a win.

The US lined up in a 4-4-2 with a diamond in the midfield.  With DeAndre Yedlin missing due to accumulation, Jurgen Klinsmann opted to slide Geoff Cameron from his Center back position to Right Back.  Steve Birnbaum and Omar Gonzales got the opportunity at Center back with Fabian Johnson at Left back. Michael Bradley made up the bottom of the midfield diamond with Alejandro Bedoya to the right.  After a strong performance as a substitute against St. Vincents and the Grenadines, Sasha Kljestan started as the Attacking midfielder, and 17 year old Christian Pulisic made his first international start at left wing.  Up top, Jozy Altidore was paired with Bobby Wood.

T&T’s Defensive Shape

Trinidad and Tobago often dropped into a situational back 5 in an attempt to provide more security in their defensive lines.  The extra man in defense came at the expense of the midfield as a wide midfielder was typically the one to drop to provide support leaving just a 3 man midfield sitting in front of the defense. The reduced midfield often struggled to contain the US ball carriers.  The midfield in particular was unable to pressure the US allowing, Sasha Kljestan time to pick out passes and Pulisic space to skip past defenders.

Aside from their inability to press the US in possession T&T were noticeably not compact vertically.  The midfield 3 were fairly tight horizontally, but frequently left space between the lines of the midfield and defense. Jozy Altidore was able to drop into the gaps giving the US numerical advantage in the middle of the field and overloads in the wide areas.  The unstable defensive block wasn’t compact enough to effectively deal with the fast interplay between Kljestan, Pulisic, and Altidore as well as Fabian Johnson when he got forward.  The issues with T&T’s stretched defense were evident in the second half when Altidore was able to create opportunities for himself from between the lines and Pulisic was able to get numerous low crosses between the keeper and the defense.  Despite T&T’s defensive issues they were able to generate a few opportunities for themselves, and narrowly missed a few chances to counter.

Change of Approach for the US Defensively

Throughout most of the match the US was able to maintain a fairly stable defensive block.  However there were occasions where they suffered compactness issues similar to the ones we’ve seen from T&T. The US showed early signs of a shift in defensive strategy from man-marking to zonal marking.  In recent years, the US has played a reactive man-marking defensive scheme that resulted in the opposition dictating the flow of a match.  They have been relatively easy to pull out of their shape particularly by teams with a qualitative advantage.  This has resulted in the team shape being stretched both vertically and horizontally opening up passing lanes and allowing the opposition to play between the lines.  By switching to zonal marking,defensive players remained in their shape and only marked closely on men that entered into their immediate zones.  As a result the US was able to stay relatively compact and cohesive.  There were a few instances where the shape and compactness broke down but the team was fortunate that T&T either didn’t recognize the gaps or were unable to exploit them.

The US’ Transition to Attack

In addition to controlling the space defensively, the compact defensive block meant that the US was able to transition to attack quicker when they won the ball back, as players fairly had a decent idea where their teammates were due to the stable team shape.  In transition to attack, the US took two approaches with one being more effective than the other.

1. When Michael Bradley won the ball in the 6 position he frequently looked to play long, penetrating vertical passes into the forwards or wide midfielders. These risky passes often resulted in giveaways and T&T counters, particularly in the first half.  The quick vertical passes were often played in the air to US players who had no immediate support from nearby teammates.  On multiple occasions Bradley played aerial balls into Wood, Altidore, and Bedoya causing them to have to adjust their movement and wait for the flighted ball to arrive.  The nature of these passes allowed T&T defenders ample time to cover the receiving player from the US.

The risky nature of these aerial vertical passes meant T&T was able to win the second balls and launch counter attacks in the gaps left by the team shape in midfield.  Fortunately for the US they weren’t able to create serious chances off of these turnovers.  However, similar mistakes against a team with more creative attacking players will likely be punished.

2. The second avenue the US took in transition to attack was through diagonal outlet passes in wide areas, specifically on the left wing through Christian Pulisic. Pulisic’s technical ability in controlling the ball in tight spaces as well as his ability to beat the right full back meant that the US was able to extend transitional attacks that in games past would have resulted in a backwards pass to maintain possession.  Pulisic’s personal attributes allowed the US to penetrate deeper and get more players involved in the attack.

The US’ Offensive Shape and Buildup play

When counters failed, the US was able to maintain possession by circulating the ball through midfield.  This offensive phase of the US’s game is an area that still needs work, and could benefit from more structural stability.  US attacking players often have the freedom to “Express themselves” offensively, but the result at times has been a disconnected midfield and players occupying neutral spaces. In the first half there were times where this positional freedom saw multiple attacking players within T&T’s defensive line, but midfield support sitting 20-30 yards behind.  This large gap in the middle of the shape forced the US to circulate the ball in a passive U shape. The second half featured better offensive shape from the US and all 3 second half goals were a result.  Kljestan didn’t push as deep into the forward line occupying the gap that was present in the first half.  In situations where Kljestan did push forward Jozy Altidore dropped into the midfield.  This staggered shape opened more aggressive passing lanes and allowed the US to penetrate.

The US was relatively passive in the initial buildup stages of possession.  Steve Birnbaum and Omar Gonzales were afforded plenty of time and space to advance the ball from the back as T&T offered no pressure.  The only pressure T&T applied on the back 4 was when the ball moved to one of the full backs in an attempt to force the us to play through the more congested middle.  The US favored the right flank one the initial T&T pressure was broken.  As T&T slid their defensive block into the wing the US would switch the play to the left through Pulisic and the numerical advantages he created with Wood, Johnson, and Altidore.

Overall the US continued the tactical improvements we saw during this summer’s Copa America with a well-deserved win.  With a date with Mexico on the horizon to open the Hexagonal round of World Cup Qualifying the US will need to be sure to tighten up the transitional passes that left them vulnerable against Trinidad and Tobago
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 29, 2017, 04:32:32 PM
US playing Serbia in a friendly in San Diego. 0-0. Jermaine Jones back. Also has Darlington Nagbe.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (6-Sept-2016)
Post by: kounty on June 02, 2017, 11:11:53 PM
I coulda swear a link for this full match was in here somewhere!?!
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