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Minister Sancho continues to give T&T football the government boot.
By Inshan Mohammed.
Gabby's Government Boots ringing bells.
When The Mighty Gabby from Barbados sang his 80’s calypso super hit "Government Boots," he was certainly not referring to anything related to T&T, but rather his frustration with the then Barbadian Prime Minister Tom Adams for wasting taxpayers' money.
Now, when you sit back and look at the current state of Trinidad and Tobago, the future appears bleak for its youth through sports and many Trinbagonians can’t help but echo Gabby’s frustration.
Protecting and educating our young people will pave a bright future for T&T. Sports is also a way out for underprivileged young people to ease the pressures of life and secure a brighter future. It appears though that our government may see things differently.
Here is a bit of football trivia- He was known as a hard nosed defender who rarely gave up on tackles, he fought for players off the field, led many strikes against his former employers for better treatment, and even spearheaded the 2006 Soca Warriors into a court battle against the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association. He was also the only T&T player to have literally scored a goal at a FIFA World Cup, an own-own to be exact.
If you haven't guessed by now who is being referenced here, well, his name is Brent Sancho, a soft spoken and congenial gentleman who has been in the game for most of his life. He practically tailored his life and built his career around football.
Today, Sancho has cut all ties with football and became a full-time politician and is perfecting his new position gracefully. The former dreadlocked defender, who founded current Pro League Champions Central FC in 2012, has also cut ties with the Club. In fact, rumor has it that the club is on the verge of a major restructure due of negligence. With both Sancho and his current adviser Kevin Harrison playing more active roles in the T&T government, it has left the club in disarray and board members fuming.
Daren Mohamdally, one of the main directors at the Club and also the operations manager at Super Industrial Services Limited (SIS), is actively running things at Central FC. Former T&T player Anthony Rougier is said to have taken up the void left by managing director Harrison, who played a very big part of Central FC's success in its 3 year existence.
Sancho seems to have found favor with the current TT government and replaced Dr. Rupert Griffith as Minister of Sports and Youth Affairs. Recently, Sancho again was on Rupert's trail when he was given the nod by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar to run for the Toco/Sangre Grande hot seat.
Lately, the Sport Minister has been in the spotlight again, but this time he is in fierce battle with the TTFA head Raymond Tim Kee over funding for local football.
Sancho is stressing to the football heads that he wants more transparency and has given them an ultimatum to open their books or face total isolation.
The TTFA in return made it clear that they had no problem doing so and after a couple of meetings with auditing company KPMG, they sent documents from 2008-2011 to the Sport Minister and were awaiting further word from Sancho who insisted he had not received the documents.
He also made it clear that: "We have asked and received information about CONCACAF monies for their (T&T's) participation in the Gold Cup, but up to this minute, we still have not gotten any official documentation other than what we were told CONCACAF gave them (TTFA)."
"They (TTFA) have said to us they have paid certain bills with this money, but lo and behold, the Ministry is left with the bill in our hand and we have had to cover again all they have said they had paid. So clearly, they have not been transparent and honest in what they have said they have distributed,” Sancho concluded in a T&T Express report from Mark Pouchet.
Brent Sancho then responded to claims of “systematically bullying” the TTFA . The Sports Minister told Sean Taylor of the T&T Express that he has consistently requested to see the TTFA accounts, a stipulation placed in the cabinet notes. “I believe I have a duty to have these conditions met,” he said.
“This is the only governing body that we have any problems with. It is abundantly clear that this organisation is playing politics with sport. During the Jamaica impasse, the government went as far as to fund $9.5 million to ensure staff were paid. The question is, when will it end? It has to stop.” he emphasised.
According to him, the Ministry has had enough and will not entertain any further funding unless the TTFA can be more transparent and account for previous funds. “They will not be funded,” Sancho said. “Unless they can account for where our funds will go,” he ended.
Fresh from the Pan American competition and another successful Gold Cup campaign, both T&T men and women team are left scratching their heads thinking what's next for them and this latest stance by the Ministry could make things get even worse.
Matches are rumored to happen starting next month with games against: Mexico (September 4th [confirmed]), Bolivia (September 8th), Panama (October 8th [confirmed]) and a play-off match against Haiti in (October?) for a Copa America Centenario spot. It would be interesting to see the support the team gets. If the rumor is true then the TTFA must be credited for these matches and outsiders must take note and go out and support the T&T team.
It was also revealed by an inside source that: "I would say, money well spent and it all goes back into the teams, these games are not cheap." As for Sancho, he has gotten the ear of some of T&T's women team members and is using them as a political tool to help show up their employers and they are not aware of the damage it is causing. To date, according to a TTFA representative, the TTFA has spent close to $180,000 USD on Women’s football development over the past year, a sum of over one million TT dollars."
Even Soca Warriors captain Kenwyne Jones was in the press lately calling for unity between TTFA and Sport Minister. And Kenwyne is right, saying, “who are really the winners and losers here?”
A former TTFA Insider wanted to know:
1. Is Minister Sancho misleading the public about the amount of money that was spent in the cabinet note when he first raised the issue that he later recanted?
2. Is Sancho’s claim that the FA didn’t submit budgets true when they clearly did and when he was given a record that supported their position, he didn’t have the decency to admit to the error?
3. Why does Sancho continue to say through his spokesman that they never received accounts information when I was given proof showing that documents were sent directly to him and his Permanent Secretary.
4. Why did Sancho demand that the FA pay a $100,000 travel bill the ministry had to pay and they have an affidavit from a former SPORTT board member supporting their claim?
5. Why did Sancho push for the TTFA to pay 50% of match fees when the cabinet note already accounted for full payment of player match fees?
6. Why did he try to establish that the FA pay 50% of gate receipts to player fees (do you remember that)? When they explained it would leave the players in worse shape he relented?
7. Why did he spend over $1.7 million on a farce of a women’s league (WPL) and claim the league would have prepared the senior team for the Pan-Am games?
Here’s why it didn’t work:
a. Some of the 40 foreign players brought in were of questionable quality yet they were housed and fed at the expense of our national teams.
b. WPL teams took precedence over national teams for practice fields. It was usual for our national teams to have to give up fields for training to WPL teams.
c. Players spent more time going to clubs, beaches, and basically having a vacation on tax dollars while national teams suffer.
d. The established league that had been serving the women’s game (WoLF) was damaged instead of helped. Asked yourself, what now for WoLF? How did the WPL helped? Sancho needs to be honest about how much it really cost tax-payers.
e. In the end, the Senior Women’s team failed to advance in their Pan-Am outing because the WPL was used instead of a traditional camp setting of 4-6 weeks.
In comparison, the Senior Men had a traditional camp and trained together for 6 weeks prior to the Gold Cup under the TTFA program, which one worked?
8. Lastly, the money football gets from the ministry is NOT A HANDOUT or A FAVOR. It is an investment of public funds designed to prepare and enable our national teams to represent the country. It is not Brent Sancho’s money, and furthermore, Brent Sancho does not have the right to come in and add additional terms to funds allocated to national teams.
The source also revealed: "He does so because he has a personal slant against the FA that disables him from carrying out his duties objectively and with the mindset that the players and coaches will feel the hurt more."
"The TTFA spent $10 million of its own funds to help pay-off the 2006 Warriors."
"As a former national footballer who went through the same tribulations that he is putting the current crop through and his cynical method of becoming a hero and saving people from problems he actually created shows a level of self importance that should concern anyone who is a fan of football."
"Look at the situation with Central FC and the bonus issue. Just like Jack Warner, he denied the players a promise, but in return felt better to just say that Raymond Tim Kee is a reincarnation of Jack and cause of all his negativity to be focused on the TTFA and away from the real problems."
"Sancho is an active litigant against the TTFA and the incidents that are playing them in front of the public should be no surprise once people understand that Sancho has every motive to not work with the TTFA."
"Why make the players, coaches and fans suffer? No one is saying that the Ministry should blindly give money to the TTFA, why not pay some of the burden directly to the source then?
"Even government agencies such as the National Lotteries Control Board (NLCB) are fighting against the FA, last year the chairman (Winston Siriram) said no money will be given to national teams because its a “PNM” TTFA", added the source.
Raymond Tim Kee is here already and will be until next election no matter the outcome of this battle and minister Brent Sancho will be here until next election no matter what’s the outcome?
One cannot see how not giving funds to the TTFA (indirectly) will affect Tim Kee? The worst that can happen is he steps down, but then what? Does Sancho have a suitable replacement? Will he give unlimited funds to the new president? Is his riff with Tim Kee personal? What caused this?
As for the new constitution, a president can only serve two terms and the TTFA election is suppose to be in November. And the voting panel has opened up where many others can vote unlike before where it was set up so that the ruling party was assured victory.
Why can't these two gentlemen take the battle to the voting polls and let's just get behind our national teams. November is only a few months away.
When our players take the field in T&T’s next match, it is the name of our beloved country that is uttered by commentators, not Raymond Tim Kee or Brent Sancho.
SWO is therefore pleading with the Sport Minister as well as the TTFA to put aside any possible hidden agendas or personal grudges and please find some common ground. You both have been down that road before and should know how it negatively affects our players. They do not deserve this.
There are about 4 weeks until general elections and it would be relieving to see Mr. Sancho do the right thing for a change and lead the politics away from our football. At least if he loses his post in the next election, he will be remembered for his positive contributions to the sport we hope he still loves.
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Great, well written article Flex. Really shows that in this personal battle the only losers are the T&T footballers and fans.
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Great, well written article Flex. Really shows that in this personal battle the only losers are the T&T footballers and fans.
Thanx
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You make some valid points Flex and we all want football first...
however, your article is one sided and aimed entirely at Sancho... Sancho is not the prez of TTFA, he is the MOS of the nation..
questions that need to asked by yourself and others:
where is the sponsorship from TK? how much money has TK brought to the TTFA?
the reason TK is not bringing money and sponsorship in is because he doesn't want this current government to look good in regards to the football... if this current team is well prepared and does well, it will be viewed as a UNC government has turned around our football, TK would rather that be under a PNM government...
hence the reason he is not garnering sponsorship and added investment... it is also political with TK...
if you want a well balanced article, you would have made it about both individuals... Sancho is not perfect and has made mistakes... but he understands and loves football, can the same be said about TK?
does TK love football? and why did he walk out of that meeting for the Russia prep? these are questions that also need to be asked to make it a fair assessment..
the MOS was going to fly and pay for a trip to Brazil, but the date conflicts with our Mexico match.. and that was their only available time slot.. other friendlies are being tossed around and discussed but the question is, will TK attend these meetings..
i doubt it, he's too busy campaigning for the PNM... sheldon was willing to sit and discuss, but no TK...
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One cannot see how not giving funds to the TTFA (indirectly) will affect Tim Kee? The worst that can happen is he steps down, but then what? Does Sancho have a suitable replacement? Will he give unlimited funds to the new president? Is his riff with Tim Kee personal?
I always asking these same questions myself.
Also I can't understand for the life of me why so many players have direct phone contact or such easy access to the Minister.
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One cannot see how not giving funds to the TTFA (indirectly) will affect Tim Kee? The worst that can happen is he steps down, but then what? Does Sancho have a suitable replacement? Will he give unlimited funds to the new president? Is his riff with Tim Kee personal?
I always asking these same questions myself.
Also I can't understand for the life of me why so many players have direct phone contact or such easy access to the Minister.
One simple question Thommo...do you have any phone numbers of work mates from 4 or 5 years ago? Or people who worked with you last year, or even last month? For whatever reason footballers tend to look up to Sancho and request his opinion or advice. Also, whatever line of work you are in, if you know the Minister in that sector personally, of course you're going to call him if you have an issue.
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Minister Sancho continues to give T&T football the government boot.
By Inshan Mohammed.
Gabby's Government Boots ringing bells.
When The Mighty Gabby from Barbados sang his 80’s calypso super hit "Government Boots," he was certainly not referring to anything related to T&T, but rather his frustration with the then Barbadian Prime Minister Tom Adams for wasting tax payers' money.
Now, when you sit back and look at the current state of Trinidad and Tobago, the future appears bleak for its youth through sports and many Trinbagonians can’t help but to echo Gabby’s frustration.
Protecting and educating the youth will pave a bright future for T&T. Sports is also a way out for underprivileged young people to ease the pressures of life and secure a brighter future. It appears though that our government may see things differently.
Here is a bit of football trivia- He was known as a hard nosed defender who rarely gave up on tackles, he fought for players off the field, led many strikes against his former employers for better treatment, and even spearheaded the 2006 Soca Warriors into court battle against the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association. He was also the only T&T player to have scored a goal at the FIFA World Cup.
If you haven't guessed by now who is being referenced here, well, his name is Brent Sancho, a soft spoken and congenial gentleman who has been in the game for most of his life. He practically tailored his life and built his career around football.
Today, Sancho has cut all ties with football and became a full-time politician and is perfecting his new position gracefully. The former dreadlocked defender, who founded current Pro League Champions Central FC in 2012, has also cut ties with the Club. In fact, rumor has it that the club is on the verge of a major restructure due of negligence. With both Sancho and his current adviser Kevin Harrison playing more active roles in the T&T government, it has left the club in disarray and board members fuming.
Daren Mohamdally is one of the main directors at the Club and is also the operations manager at Super Industrial Services Limited (SIS) is actively running things at Central FC. Former T&T player Anthony Rougier is said to have taken up the void left by managing director Harrison, who played a very big part of Central FC's success in its 3 year existence.
Sancho seems to have found favor with the current TT government and replaced Dr. Rupert Griffith as Minister of Sports and Youth Affairs. Recently, Sancho again was on Rupert's trail when he was given the nod by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar to run for the Toco/Sangre Grande hot seat.
Lately, Sancho again has been in the spotlight, but this time he is in fierce battle with the TTFA head Raymond Tim Kee over funding for local football.
Sancho is stressing to the football heads that he wants more transparency and has given them an ultimatum to open their books or face total isolation.
The TTFA in return made it clear that they had no problem doing so and after a couple meetings with auditing company KPMG they had sent documents from 2008-2011 to the Sport Minister and was awaiting further word from Sancho who insisted he had not received the documents.
Sancho also made it clear that: "We have asked and received information about CONCACAF monies for their (T&T's) participation in the Gold Cup but up to this minute we still have not gotten any official documentation other than what we were told CONCACAF gave them (TTFA)."
"They (TTFA) have said to us they have paid certain bills with this money but lo and behold the Ministry is left with the bill in our hand and we have had to cover again all they have said they had paid. So clearly they have not been transparent and honest in what they have said they have distributed,” Sancho concluded" in a T&T Express report from Mark Pouchet.
Brent Sancho then responded to claims of “systematically bullying” the TTFA . The Sports Minister told Sean Taylor of the T&T Express that he has consistently requested to see the TTFA accounts, a stipulation placed in the cabinet notes. “I believe I have a duty to have these conditions met,” he said.
“This is the only governing body that we have any problems with. It is abundantly clear that this organisation is playing politics with sport. During the Jamaica impasse, the government went as far as to fund $9.5 million to ensure staff were paid. The question is, when will it end? It has to stop.” he emphasised.
According to him, the Ministry has had enough and will not entertain any further funding unless the TTFA can be more transparent, and account for previous funds. “They will not be funded,” Sancho said. “Unless they can account for where our funds will go,” he ended.
Fresh from the Pan American competition and another successful Gold Cup campaign, both T&T men and women team are left scratching their heads thinking what's next for them and with this latest stance by the Ministry things could get even worse.
Which supposed matches rumored to happen next month with games against; Mexico (September 4th [confirmed]), Bolivia (September 8th), Panama (October 8th [confirmed]) and a play-off match against Haiti in (October?) for a Copa America Centenario spot. It would be interesting to see the support the team gets. If the rumor is true then the TTFA must be credited for these matches and outsiders must take note and go out and support the T&T team.
It has also been revealed by an inside source that: "I would say, money well spent and it all goes back into the teams, these games are not cheap." As for Sancho, he has gotten the ear of some off the T&T's women team members and is using them as a political tool to help show up their employers and they are not aware of the damage it is causing. To date, according to a TTFA representative, the TTFA has spent close to $180,000 USD on Women’s football development over the past year, a sum of over one million TT dollars."
"Even Soca Warriors captain Kenwyne Jones was in the press lately calling for unity between TTFA and Sport Minister. And Kenwyne is right, “who are really the winners and losers here?”
A former TTFA Insider wanted to know:
1. Is Minister Sancho misleading the public about the amount of money that was spent in the cabinet note when he first raised the issue that he later recanted?
2. Is Sancho’s claim that the FA didn’t submit budgets true when they clearly did and when he was given a record that supported their position he didn’t have the decency to admit to the error?
3. Why does Sancho continue to say through his spokesman that they never received accounts information when I was given proof showing that documents were sent directly to him and his Permanent Secretary.
4. Why did Sancho demand that the FA pay a $100,000 travel bill the ministry had to pay and they have an affidavit from a former SPORTT board member supporting their claim?
5. Why did Sancho push for the TTFA paying for 50% of match fees when the cabinet note already accounted for full payment of player match fees?
6. Why did he try to establish that the FA pay 50% of gate receipts to player fees (do you remember that?). When they had explained that would leave the players in worse shape he relented?
7. Why did he spend over $1.7 million on a farce of a women’s league (WPL) and claim the league would have prepared the senior team for the Pan-Am games?
Here’s why it didn’t work:
a. Some of the 40 foreign players brought in were of questionable quality yet they were housed and fed at the expense of our national teams.
b. WPL teams took precedence over national teams for practice fields. It was usual for our national teams to have to give up fields for training to WPL teams.
c. Players spent more time going to clubs, beaches, and basically having a vacation on tax dollars while national teams suffer.
d. The established league that had been serving the women’s game (WoLF) was damaged instead of helped. Asked yourself, what now for WoLF? How did the WPL helped?
e. In the end the Senior Women’s team failed to advance in their Pan-Am outing because the WPL was used instead of a traditional camp setting of 4-6 weeks.
In comparison, the Senior Men had a traditional camp and trained together for 6 weeks prior to the Gold Cup under the TTFA program, which one worked?
8. Lastly, the money football gets from the ministry is NOT A HANDOUT or A FAVOR. It is an investment of public funds designed to prepare and enable our national teams to represent the country. It is not Brent Sancho’s money and furthermore, Brent Sancho does not have the right to come in and add additional terms to funds allocated to national teams.
The source also revealed: "He does so because he has a personal slant against the FA that disables him from carrying out his duties objectively and with the mindset that the players and coaches will feel the hurt more."
"The TTFA spent $10 million of its own funds to help pay-off the 2006 Warriors."
"As a former national footballer who went through the same tribulations that he is putting the current crop through and his cynical method of becoming a hero and saving people from problems he actually created shows a level of self importance that should concern anyone who is a fan of football."
"Look at the situation with Central FC and the bonus issue. Just like Jack Warner he denied the players a promise, but in return felt better to just say that Raymond Tim Kee is a reincarnation of Jack and cause of all his negativity to be focused on the TTFA and away from the real problems."
"Sancho is an active litigant against the TTFA and the incidents that are playing them in front of the public should be no surprise once people understand that Sancho has every motive to not work with the TTFA."
"Why make the players, coaches and fans suffer? No one is saying that the Ministry should blindly give money to the TTFA, why not pay some of the burden directly to the source then?
"Even government agencies such as the National Lotteries Control Board (NLCB) are fighting against the FA, last year the chairman (Winston Siriram) said no money will be given to national teams because its a “PNM” TTFA, added the source."
Raymond Tim Kee is here already and will be until next election no matter the outcome of this battle and minister Brent Sancho will be here until next election no matter what’s the outcome?
One cannot see how not giving funds to the TTFA (indirectly) will affect Tim Kee? The worst that can happen is he steps down, but then what? Does Sancho have a suitable replacement? Will he give unlimited funds to the new president? Is his riff with Tim Kee personal? What caused this?
As for the new constitution, a president can only serve two terms and the TTFA election is suppose to be in November. And the voting panel has opened up where many others can vote unlike before where it was set up so that the ruling party was assured victory.
Why can't these two gentlemen take the battle to the voting polls and lets just get behind our national teams. November is only a few months away.
When our players take the field in T&T’s next match it is the name of our beloved country that is uttered by commentators, not Raymond Tim Kee or Brent Sancho.
SWO is therefor pleading with the Sport Minister as well as the TTFA to put aside any possible hidden agendas or personal grudges and please find some common ground. You both have been down that road before and should know how it negatively affects our players. They do not deserve this.
There are about 4 weeks until general elections and it would be relieving to see Mr. Sancho do the right thing for a change and lead the politics away from our football. At least if he loses his post in the next election, he will be remembered for his positive contributions to the sport we hope he still loves.
Nice article Flex, but I don't think it needed the "former TTFA Insider" viewpoint unless you balanced it with an MoS insider! Maybe one who would ask a question like this: If Tim-Kee publicly stated some months back that Sheldon Phillips will no longer deal with Ministry of Sport issues, and William Wallace is overseas, and you have a financial crisis, and Tim-Kee, being the only person able to discuss funding with the Ministry refuses to meet the Minister and also then walks out on the Permanent Secretary, how are such issues supposed to be resolved?
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Big write up they Flex.
The MOS only wants transparency from the TTFA what about de other association. Everybody should be transparent.
Didn't our players just made it to the gold cup quarterfinals for a second time? Why they not rewarded by the government but yet de government going and reward the medalist at the Pan Am games? it should be across de board, ent?
Tim Kee walk out because I just it wasn't going any where with Sancho except for a back and forth currel.
As Flex pointed out FS, both men have to put down their guns, no winners here.
Sancho spending more on his own agenda (de WPL) and have his own country suffering. Look at de WoLF league, nobody know if they exist but all de focus was on WPL because Sancho running it? How that helping T&T? He just want credit for a league he created.
Look at all de sponsors for de WPL, all UNC supporters.
Somebody need to ask Sancho to open the books for the WPL, how much it really cost.
Sancho founded Central FC and now his own board kicking him out, how is that?
So wait, he elect a board and now they unelecting him?
Or SIS wanted to hide money and found Central to be a good place to do so and Sancho sold out.
De PP government giving SIS all de contracts in T&T they need to be transparent also, like how much they investing in Central FC and were they getting all this money.
By de way FS, I see Rougier take yuh job, ah tell allyuh to watch that man.
And look at de line up of games de TTFA plan nah allyuh, Panama, Mexico and Bolivia, give them lil credit for that nah?
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Flex yuh large, enjoy reading your articles, you need to be involved in T&T football more, definitely better that what they have.
Sam asked a valid question here, Somebody need to ask Sancho to open the books for the WPL, how much it really cost.
I guess Sancho will give them the money on September 6th.
:rotfl:
I am sorry to hear what has happened to Harrison, I think he did a good job with Central.
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Big write up they Flex.
The MOS only wants transparency from the TTFA what about de other association. Everybody should be transparent.
Didn't our players just made it to the gold cup quarterfinals for a second time? Why they not rewarded by the government but yet de government going and reward the medalist at the Pan Am games? it should be across de board, ent?
Tim Kee walk out because I just it wasn't going any where with Sancho except for a back and forth currel.
As Flex pointed out FS, both men have to put down their guns, no winners here.
Sancho spending more on his own agenda (de WPL) and have his own country suffering. Look at de WoLF league, nobody know if they exist but all de focus was on WPL because Sancho running it? How that helping T&T? He just want credit for a league he created.
Look at all de sponsors for de WPL, all UNC supporters.
Somebody need to ask Sancho to open the books for the WPL, how much it really cost.
Sancho founded Central FC and now his own board kicking him out, how is that?
So wait, he elect a board and now they unelecting him?
Or SIS wanted to hide money and found Central to be a good place to do so and Sancho sold out.
De PP government giving SIS all de contracts in T&T they need to be transparent also, like how much they investing in Central FC and were they getting all this money.
By de way FS, I see Rougier take yuh job, ah tell allyuh to watch that man.
And look at de line up of games de TTFA plan nah allyuh, Panama, Mexico and Bolivia, give them lil credit for that nah?
Where the press release from TTFA that they secure Panama and Bolivia?
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One cannot see how not giving funds to the TTFA (indirectly) will affect Tim Kee? The worst that can happen is he steps down, but then what? Does Sancho have a suitable replacement? Will he give unlimited funds to the new president? Is his riff with Tim Kee personal?
I always asking these same questions myself.
Also I can't understand for the life of me why so many players have direct phone contact or such easy access to the Minister.
One simple question Thommo...do you have any phone numbers of work mates from 4 or 5 years ago? Or people who worked with you last year, or even last month? For whatever reason footballers tend to look up to Sancho and request his opinion or advice. Also, whatever line of work you are in, if you know the Minister in that sector personally, of course you're going to call him if you have an issue.
Yes I do and I understand they can be friends. However, in this case there is a conflict of interest and by Sancho entertaining and giving advice to players concerning the TTFA who he has a personal and professional dispute with is TOTALLY unethical. In my line of work (accounting) I CANNOT give advice or information to a client about another client no matter what!! It is a breach of professional ethics. In some instances it can be illegal.Yuh from the UK so I'm sure you're quite aware of the Data Protection
Act 1998. Come better than that FS
PS What's your take on the bit I highlighted?
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Interesting list of friendlies. I wonder If we will have at least one at home? Would be nice to see the boys in action in the HCS.
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One cannot see how not giving funds to the TTFA (indirectly) will affect Tim Kee? The worst that can happen is he steps down, but then what? Does Sancho have a suitable replacement? Will he give unlimited funds to the new president? Is his riff with Tim Kee personal?
I always asking these same questions myself.
Also I can't understand for the life of me why so many players have direct phone contact or such easy access to the Minister.
One simple question Thommo...do you have any phone numbers of work mates from 4 or 5 years ago? Or people who worked with you last year, or even last month? For whatever reason footballers tend to look up to Sancho and request his opinion or advice. Also, whatever line of work you are in, if you know the Minister in that sector personally, of course you're going to call him if you have an issue.
Yes I do and I understand they can be friends. However, in this case there is a conflict of interest and by Sancho entertaining and giving advice to players concerning the TTFA who he has a personal and professional dispute with is TOTALLY unethical. In my line of work (accounting) I CANNOT give advice or information to a client about another client no matter what!! It is a breach of professional ethics. In some instances it can be illegal.Yuh from the UK so I'm sure you're quite aware of the Data Protection
Act 1998. Come better than that FS
PS What's your take on the bit I highlighted?
Who said he was giving advice? You asked "I can't understand for the life of me why so many players have direct phone contact or such easy access to the Minister." and I answered you. What they talk about is their business. Data protection has nothing to do with a Minister talking to a footballer. And this ain't the UK. I get your point, but comparisons like that are not accurate. For example, if the UK Minister of Sport was in a bar and Raheem Sterling started chatting to him and the Minister said "Raheem, you should stay at Liverpool, son" is that wrong? Or if he said "Sterling, you need to squeeze another 10 grand a week out of City" is that wrong?
And, no, Sancho does not have a suitable replacement. Now that would be a conflict of interest! In fact we have speculated on who could take RTKs place and we can't think of anyone suitable who would do the job!!
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Interesting list of friendlies. I wonder If we will have at least one at home? Would be nice to see the boys in action in the HCS.
Not confirmed... If it's true, it's good but truehatian has just pointed out that we play them a day after the Panama match was scheduled.. So TTFA right now is looking like they screwed up again... Plus nothing has been published..
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Todays Trinidad Express- Ready to work alone.
Minister of Sports Brent Sancho said he would continue to help the National Men's Senior Football team to qualify for the FIFA 2018 World Cup with or without T&T football president Raymond Tim Kee
Check it out in the Express.
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Very informative article.Flex well done .... Keep up the good work !
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As pointed out, only the Bolivia game is not confirmed..
And unless, the match vs Haiti which is strictly in the hands of CONCACAF end up being on the 9th as someone suggested, then off corse the Panama game will have to be moved.
Again, the article stated that "With supposed matches rumored to happen next month with games against; "
Controversial makes a meal of everything.
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As pointed out, only the Bolivia game is not confirmed..
And unless, the match vs Haiti which is strictly in the hands of CONCACAF end up being on the 9th as someone suggested, then off corse the Panama game will have to be moved.
Again, the article stated that "With supposed matches rumored to happen next month with games against; "
Controversial makes a meal of everything.
Thanks.
I find the TTFA should request the playoff game to be at home.
We finished higher than Haiti in the Gold Cup (we were undefeated in all 4 games) while they lost their QF within 90 minutes.
We should therefore have the home advantage in a playoff game just like Panama should host Cuba.
It will be a good game to host for gate receipts , merchandise sales etc.
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As pointed out, only the Bolivia game is not confirmed..
And unless, the match vs Haiti which is strictly in the hands of CONCACAF end up being on the 9th as someone suggested, then off corse the Panama game will have to be moved.
Again, the article stated that "With supposed matches rumored to happen next month with games against; "
Controversial makes a meal of everything.
Not making a meal of anything flex.. TTFA hasn't announced nothing and other countries were proposed for friendlies ... So I was confused that Panama and Bolivia came up... We have no releases from them... Plus that Panama match will probably have to be moved.. Is it on the official date?
This is the point I'm trying to make about TK and the TTFA, no one knows nothing...
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Is not that they don't want games, they have to wait for the other FA's to approve it, its a process.
Panama and Mexico games are confirmed.
The Haiti play off match is in the hands of CONCACAF and they have not worked out a format yet, so I doubt its on the 9th??
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Is not that they don't want games, they have to wait for the other FA's to approve it, its a process.
Panama and Mexico games are confirmed.
The Haiti play off match is in the hands of CONCACAF and they have not worked out a format yet, so I doubt its on the 9th??
Thanks for the info brother... Just disappointed the fed couldn't announce it to the public.. But at least you shared it with everyone..
What are the official Fifa dates? I don't think they were outlined to us... I'm happy that at least two games are confirmed..
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One cannot see how not giving funds to the TTFA (indirectly) will affect Tim Kee? The worst that can happen is he steps down, but then what? Does Sancho have a suitable replacement? Will he give unlimited funds to the new president? Is his riff with Tim Kee personal?
I always asking these same questions myself.
Also I can't understand for the life of me why so many players have direct phone contact or such easy access to the Minister.
One simple question Thommo...do you have any phone numbers of work mates from 4 or 5 years ago? Or people who worked with you last year, or even last month? For whatever reason footballers tend to look up to Sancho and request his opinion or advice. Also, whatever line of work you are in, if you know the Minister in that sector personally, of course you're going to call him if you have an issue.
Yes I do and I understand they can be friends. However, in this case there is a conflict of interest and by Sancho entertaining and giving advice to players concerning the TTFA who he has a personal and professional dispute with is TOTALLY unethical. In my line of work (accounting) I CANNOT give advice or information to a client about another client no matter what!! It is a breach of professional ethics. In some instances it can be illegal.Yuh from the UK so I'm sure you're quite aware of the Data Protection
Act 1998. Come better than that FS
PS What's your take on the bit I highlighted?
Who said he was giving advice? You asked "I can't understand for the life of me why so many players have direct phone contact or such easy access to the Minister." and I answered you. What they talk about is their business. Data protection has nothing to do with a Minister talking to a footballer. And this ain't the UK. I get your point, but comparisons like that are not accurate. For example, if the UK Minister of Sport was in a bar and Raheem Sterling started chatting to him and the Minister said "Raheem, you should stay at Liverpool, son" is that wrong? Or if he said "Sterling, you need to squeeze another 10 grand a week out of City" is that wrong?
And, no, Sancho does not have a suitable replacement. Now that would be a conflict of interest! In fact we have speculated on who could take RTKs place and we can't think of anyone suitable who would do the job!!
and therein lies the problem. from the onset brent has been trying to show up timkee as a dishonest uncooperative trouble maker who's incapable of making moves of his own and is heavily reliant on government funding and is purposefully trying to milk public funds for his personal use. it is my opinion that sancho never had any intentions of working in tandem with the man or giving things a chance to blossom from the get go. and i believe the reason why he did this is because he wants to line up his mate or himself for the position and has set out to sabotage timkee at every end.
my hope is to see raymond timkee continue on as the federation president and would also be elated to see the PP government removed on september 7th. i don't know if luck would have it in that particular order but it would be a blessing if it did. what i would not want to see is sancho or kelvin jack take over from timkee and then has to contend with a pnm sports minister, and by the looks of it chances are that brent sancho would be looking for a job come september 8th and may throw his hat in the ring to challenge timkee for the job. i for one wouldn't want to relive this foolishness again where the sports minister and the federation president is on opposite sides of the coin. it's time to have a government and a sports minister who is favorable to the federation president because this kind of grumbling and mud slinging between the two entities is getting old, not to mention a huge annoyance and a gnat on ever last football lover's nerve.
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Brent Sancho is a goat. Never liked the kid, since his days of playing for T&T to now.
He is a total kiss ass and have a vendetta against Tim Kee but his real fight should be Jack Warner.
These guys are afraid of Jack Warner and now have turned all they frustration on Tim Kee.
Monkey really know what tree toi climb.
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One cannot see how not giving funds to the TTFA (indirectly) will affect Tim Kee? The worst that can happen is he steps down, but then what? Does Sancho have a suitable replacement? Will he give unlimited funds to the new president? Is his riff with Tim Kee personal?
I always asking these same questions myself.
Also I can't understand for the life of me why so many players have direct phone contact or such easy access to the Minister.
One simple question Thommo...do you have any phone numbers of work mates from 4 or 5 years ago? Or people who worked with you last year, or even last month? For whatever reason footballers tend to look up to Sancho and request his opinion or advice. Also, whatever line of work you are in, if you know the Minister in that sector personally, of course you're going to call him if you have an issue.
Yes I do and I understand they can be friends. However, in this case there is a conflict of interest and by Sancho entertaining and giving advice to players concerning the TTFA who he has a personal and professional dispute with is TOTALLY unethical. In my line of work (accounting) I CANNOT give advice or information to a client about another client no matter what!! It is a breach of professional ethics. In some instances it can be illegal.Yuh from the UK so I'm sure you're quite aware of the Data Protection
Act 1998. Come better than that FS
PS What's your take on the bit I highlighted?
Who said he was giving advice? You asked "I can't understand for the life of me why so many players have direct phone contact or such easy access to the Minister." and I answered you. What they talk about is their business. Data protection has nothing to do with a Minister talking to a footballer. And this ain't the UK. I get your point, but comparisons like that are not accurate. For example, if the UK Minister of Sport was in a bar and Raheem Sterling started chatting to him and the Minister said "Raheem, you should stay at Liverpool, son" is that wrong? Or if he said "Sterling, you need to squeeze another 10 grand a week out of City" is that wrong?
And, no, Sancho does not have a suitable replacement. Now that would be a conflict of interest! In fact we have speculated on who could take RTKs place and we can't think of anyone suitable who would do the job!!
and therein lies the problem. from the onset brent has been trying to show up timkee as a dishonest uncooperative trouble maker who's incapable of making moves of his own and is heavily reliant on government funding and is purposefully trying to milk public funds for his personal use. it is my opinion that sancho never had any intentions of working in tandem with the man or giving things a chance to blossom from the get go. and i believe the reason why he did this is because he wants to line up his mate or himself for the position and has set out to sabotage timkee at every end.
my hope is to see raymond timkee continue on as the federation president and would also be elated to see the PP government removed on september 7th. i don't know if luck would have it in that particular order but it would be a blessing if it did. what i would not want to see is sancho or kelvin jack take over from timkee and then has to contend with a pnm sports minister, and by the looks of it chances are that brent sancho would be looking for a job come september 8th and may throw his hat in the ring to challenge timkee for the job. i for one wouldn't want to relive this foolishness again where the sports minister and the federation president is on opposite sides of the coin. it's time to have a government and a sports minister who is favorable to the federation president because this kind of grumbling and mud slinging between the two entities is getting old, not to mention a huge annoyance and a gnat on ever last football lover's nerve.
It never fails to amaze me how people here look for plots and conspiracies.
When has Sancho (or anyone else) ever said Tim-Kee "is purposefully trying to milk public funds for his personal use."? I don't believe anybody has accused RTK of being corrupt, so why would you say this? What Sancho has said is that TTFA have not been transparent about monies they have received from FIFA and CONCACAF. The reason for this is that before the Ministry can establish a need, they need to understand their position. TTFA is the only sporting body to receive 100% of it's subvention. In fact, it's received over 100%. And there was the cabinet note as well.
Tim-Kee was the last national sporting body President to meet with Sancho. This wasn't by Sancho's design. So you tell me who "never had any intentions of working in tandem with the man or giving things a chance to blossom from the get go."
"chances are that brent sancho would be looking for a job come september 8th and may throw his hat in the ring to challenge timkee for the job." Are you mad? If Sancho loses, he will have to get a job, just like anybody else. The President of TTFA does nor receive a salary. Why would anybody who has to earn a living want that position? In fact, that is one of the TTFA's problems. In order to do the Presidents job effectively, a decent salary should be offered. RTK has accomplished very little because he has three other jobs.
"it's time to have a government and a sports minister who is favorable to the federation president" What the hell is wrong with the people of T&T? They vote for governments to improve society, grow the economy, develop infrastructure when what they should do is vote for a party who will work with Raymond Tim-Kee. So thats where Rowley and Kamla are going wrong- they need to announce "doh worry, brothers and sisters, vote fuh meh an ah give Tim-Kee plenty dullahs fuh we fitbal"
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Brent Sancho is a goat. Never liked the kid, since his days of playing for T&T to now.
He is a total kiss ass and have a vendetta against Tim Kee but his real fight should be Jack Warner.
These guys are afraid of Jack Warner and now have turned all they frustration on Tim Kee.
Monkey really know what tree toi climb.
And yet Sancho speaks highly of you! And you do realise that it was the players court case that uncovered much of the evidence now being used by FBI?
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Brent Sancho is a goat. Never liked the kid, since his days of playing for T&T to now.
He is a total kiss ass and have a vendetta against Tim Kee but his real fight should be Jack Warner.
These guys are afraid of Jack Warner and now have turned all they frustration on Tim Kee.
Monkey really know what tree toi climb.
And yet Sancho speaks highly of you! And you do realise that it was the players court case that uncovered much of the evidence now being used by FBI?
Breds don't waste your time with these brainwashed people... They only see one way, they think TK is some saviour and Sancho ruining football, when he exposed corruption and also has these dictators on the back foot.. He's not perfect but no one is..
They are mad Sancho happens to be with UNC... If Sancho was a PNM till I die like weary, bakes, brown sugar or one of those myopic stooges then he would be accepted.. They don't realize all these politicians are manipulators.. Sancho jump at an opportunity, God given.. Everything happens for a reason.. TK doesn't have the time or focus for the job.. With the new constitution he will be departing soon form the position.. So it's best he make it amicable while he's there...
Last time I check.. Sancho not running our football, he merely facilitating the process for MOS in helping TTFA..
Where is TK sponsors and investment?
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It has become so unfortunate, that RTK is the president of TTFA and Brent being elected MoS. I applaud Brent for requesting transparency from TTFA, if they receiving taxpayers money. I applaud RTK for having an independent team do the new constitution. Everything in between is total f--king confusion. I don't know who to believe. I friggin fed up of both. One have the money, the other don't.
FS, while Brent has not openly come out and state that RTK is corrupt, the way he says things about RTK and TTFA, makes one feel he is implying the RTK and TTFA wants to bleed the govt for money. Like Star Child, said, Brent fight is with Jack Warner and he taking it out on RTK. RTK on the other eh backing down from Brent. He inherited this massive debt left by Jack. He feels, and many agree that the govt should at least retire some of the debt Jack had incurred while he was both a prominent minister(acted as pm) and the socalled special advisor. The money that he spent to curry favor his way in the UNC/pp coalition, should have been used to retire all TTFA expenses. We all know that did not happened. Many people seem to have convenient amnesia about that.
RTK can't find the money outside of govt fast enough to retire that debt and move the TTFA forward. Waiting on the election is a gross injustice to TT football. PNM eh sure to win. If they don't, what the frigg RTK go do. Continue with this impasse. Hell friggin NO.
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This question is for Flex because he seems to know a lot about ttfa documents and its insiders. Why would the ttfa schedule these upcoming games when they know the MOS is not going to sponsor them? If that isn't assinine and political meandering to win the favoritism of the public then what do you call that?
Where is the proof that the ttfa spent $180,000 on the women's team? Not because your insider says so means that its so.
And what is the ttfa's strategic plan for the development of sponsors and football in the country? Selling t-shirts is not a strattegic plan.
Why should all the other NSO' in the country adhere to the policy set forth by the MOS regarding present and fufure funding except the ttfa? I would not give the ttfa any funds nor sponsor any games schedule by this NSO unless they comply with those rules set forth by the MOS.
Why is Sheldon Phillips still the GS when he was supposed to be replaced? Has the TD been paid for his services?
Were all the required documents for funding submitted by June 30tb without discrepancies?
I have so many questions to ask. Some of which have been asked repeatedly, yet, very little answers have been given. He say and she say does not provide proof.
The rules set up by the MOS is not rules set up by Sancho but he is enforcing those rules and I for one appreciates that.
Forget Jack Warner. Meet Tim Kee. Didn't tanty tim say he is his own man? Imagine Sancho trying to tell the Mayor of Port of Spain what to do. If I am not mistaken the ttfa is the only NSO in the country with an encumbent policitician as its head.
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This question is for Flex because he seems to know a lot about ttfa documents and its insiders. Why would the ttfa schedule these upcoming games when they know the MOS is not going to sponsor them? If that isn't assinine and political meandering to win the favoritism of the public then what do you call that?
Where is the proof that the ttfa spent $180,000 on the women's team? Not because your insider says so means that its so.
And what is the ttfa's strategic plan for the development of sponsors and football in the country? Selling t-shirts is not a strattegic plan.
Why should all the other NSO' in the country adhere to the policy set forth by the MOS regarding present and fufure funding except the ttfa? I would not give the ttfa any funds nor sponsor any games schedule by this NSO unless they comply with those rules set forth by the MOS.
Why is Sheldon Phillips still the GS when he was supposed to be replaced? Has the TD been paid for his services?
Were all the required documents for funding submitted by June 30tb without discrepancies?
I have so many questions to ask. Some of which have been asked repeatedly, yet, very little answers have been given. He say and she say does not provide proof.
The rules set up by the MOS is not rules set up by Sancho but he is enforcing those rules and I for one appreciates that.
Forget Jack Warner. Meet Tim Kee. Didn't tanty tim say he is his own man? Imagine Sancho trying to tell the Mayor of Port of Spain what to do. If I am not mistaken the ttfa is the only NSO in the country with an encumbent policitician as its head.
Excellent points and questions :beermug:
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https://www.youtube.com/v/YImm2xLQgXE
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Just to reply to some of the points made by Deeks & KD. There is no belief that Tim-Kee is corrupt. However it is felt within the Ministry and SPORTT that TTFA receive far too much, do not manage their finances correctly, are very secretive about their finances, arrogantly expect MoS to foot every bill presented and their achievements do not equate to the investment made by MoS on behalf of the taxpayers. These are not all necessarily the view of Sancho, but people who help to orchestrate policy and implementation.
TTFA had complaints about the previous Permanent Secretary, yet within a month of the new P.S. taking office, she had serious concerns. Not being a "football person" she was unaware that TTFA would also receive travel grants from CONCACAF for Gold Cup. This caused serious questions to be asked and that lack of transparency will now haunt any TTFA funding requests.
The scheduling of games is another concern. If TTFA can fund them, then that's great. But if support is expected then MoS should have been consulted in the planning stage. The fiscal year ends in September and new money won't flow until end of October. Also, how can MoS budget for expenses that they don't know about? This is the same prob;em with Match fees and stipends. MoS doesn't negotiate them so why should they pay them? How can one party agree a figure with another party without knowing if the third party can actually pay?
This is where the conflict happens. And RTK can always run to the press and complain and he knows that during an election season this will damage Sancho.
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Just to reply to some of the points made by Deeks & KD. There is no belief that Tim-Kee is corrupt. However it is felt within the Ministry and SPORTT that TTFA receive far too much, do not manage their finances correctly, are very secretive about their finances, arrogantly expect MoS to foot every bill presented and their achievements do not equate to the investment made by MoS on behalf of the taxpayers. These are not all necessarily the view of Sancho, but people who help to orchestrate policy and implementation.
TTFA had complaints about the previous Permanent Secretary, yet within a month of the new P.S. taking office, she had serious concerns. Not being a "football person" she was unaware that TTFA would also receive travel grants from CONCACAF for Gold Cup. This caused serious questions to be asked and that lack of transparency will now haunt any TTFA funding requests.
The scheduling of games is another concern. If TTFA can fund them, then that's great. But if support is expected then MoS should have been consulted in the planning stage. The fiscal year ends in September and new money won't flow until end of October. Also, how can MoS budget for expenses that they don't know about? This is the same prob;em with Match fees and stipends. MoS doesn't negotiate them so why should they pay them? How can one party agree a figure with another party without knowing if the third party can actually pay?
This is where the conflict happens. And RTK can always run to the press and complain and he knows that during an election season this will damage Sancho.
precisely
kimmy .. politician master he is!
edit/add - not buying everything the Minister selling either.
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Breds don't waste your time with these brainwashed people... They only see one way, they think TK is some saviour and Sancho ruining football, when he exposed corruption and also has these dictators on the back foot.. He's not perfect but no one is..
They are mad Sancho happens to be with UNC... If Sancho was a PNM till I die like weary, bakes, brown sugar or one of those myopic stooges then he would be accepted.. They don't realize all these politicians are manipulators.. Sancho jump at an opportunity, God given.. Everything happens for a reason.. TK doesn't have the time or focus for the job.. With the new constitution he will be departing soon form the position.. So it's best he make it amicable while he's there...
Last time I check.. Sancho not running our football, he merely facilitating the process for MOS in helping TTFA..
Where is TK sponsors and investment?
Provocative comment, but I suspect you don't honestly believe this? (or should no longer believe this?) ... particularly since you've been presented with ample evidence to the contrary?
(P.S. Yuh jes love calling Bakes name, eh ... I think he's invoked subliminally or mentioned overtly in all of your posts).
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Breds don't waste your time with these brainwashed people... They only see one way, they think TK is some saviour and Sancho ruining football, when he exposed corruption and also has these dictators on the back foot.. He's not perfect but no one is..
They are mad Sancho happens to be with UNC... If Sancho was a PNM till I die like weary, bakes, brown sugar or one of those myopic stooges then he would be accepted.. They don't realize all these politicians are manipulators.. Sancho jump at an opportunity, God given.. Everything happens for a reason.. TK doesn't have the time or focus for the job.. With the new constitution he will be departing soon form the position.. So it's best he make it amicable while he's there...
Last time I check.. Sancho not running our football, he merely facilitating the process for MOS in helping TTFA..
Where is TK sponsors and investment?
Provocative comment, but I suspect you don't honestly believe this? (or should no longer believe this?) ... particularly since you've been presented with ample evidence to the contrary?
(P.S. Yuh jes love calling Bakes name, eh ... I think he's invoked subliminally or mentioned overtly in all of your posts).
actually Seeker, Bakes, weary and sugar have not said a word against TK... so why should I believe differently? Most of the ferocious attacks originate from PNM supporters or sympathizers...not all, as many people are caught in the middle of a PR war to discredit one another, so they choose the middle, when really, there is no middle, it is weighed heavily against TK... if you can point out some statements that prove my statement wrong, please inform me, maybe I missed them or misinterpreted them.. weary and sugar have always been huge supporters of Sancho but the minute he picked up that yellow partisan jersey, the stance changed...
i am an open minded person and I'm willing to admit if I am wrong, but I would need to see the evidence that is contrary to my belief..
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Breds don't waste your time with these brainwashed people... They only see one way, they think TK is some saviour and Sancho ruining football, when he exposed corruption and also has these dictators on the back foot.. He's not perfect but no one is..
They are mad Sancho happens to be with UNC... If Sancho was a PNM till I die like weary, bakes, brown sugar or one of those myopic stooges then he would be accepted.. They don't realize all these politicians are manipulators.. Sancho jump at an opportunity, God given.. Everything happens for a reason.. TK doesn't have the time or focus for the job.. With the new constitution he will be departing soon form the position.. So it's best he make it amicable while he's there...
Last time I check.. Sancho not running our football, he merely facilitating the process for MOS in helping TTFA..
Where is TK sponsors and investment?
Provocative comment, but I suspect you don't honestly believe this? (or should no longer believe this?) ... particularly since you've been presented with ample evidence to the contrary?
(P.S. Yuh jes love calling Bakes name, eh ... I think he's invoked subliminally or mentioned overtly in all of your posts).
actually Seeker, Bakes, weary and sugar have not said a word against TK... so why should I believe differently? Most of the ferocious attacks originate from PNM supporters or sympathizers...not all, as many people are caught in the middle of a PR war to discredit one another, so they choose the middle, when really, there is no middle, it is weighed heavily against TK... if you can point out some statements that prove my statement wrong, please inform me, maybe I missed them or misinterpreted them.. weary and sugar have always been huge supporters of Sancho but the minute he picked up that yellow partisan jersey, the stance changed...
i am an open minded person and I'm willing to admit if I am wrong, but I would need to see the evidence that is contrary to my belief..
Where should we start first? With the "PNM till I (i.e. they) die" charge?
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King Deese, forget Jack, meet TIM Kee . Breds, you could forget Jack, not me. Because he is the elephant in the room. I eh letting the socalled special advisor of the hook not one iota. He had this ball rolling over 25 yrs. I already stated my case as it concerns RTK. Disappointing as far as raising money's outside of the govt. That is his main job and it has been disappointing to say the least.
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It EH have no saints in this nah- all ah dem seems to be opportunistic-
Will the present minister reveal if he intents to honour the government payback of the monies given to the 2006 players? Wasn't the condition that once. They pursued the then SA and procured funds that the money would be reimbursed? What has happened to that course of action? Oh yeah like all other issues that gone and forgotten - call dat ah government buy out nah - right!
Do the frigging moral thing and take a stance to repay taxpayers money and follow through with the course of action.
All ah bunch ah scamps - dam opportunistic money grabbing incompetent I dividuals bleeding the country dry Steups - I done with all dis nonsense and it have folks in here siding up to the powers to be yuh ent see the crap we in - yeah he give dem the boots alright - more than dat he sell he soul for the pieces of silver or millions- people wake up and use the boots to kick they arses out - say no to People Pillaging money from the coffers.
Ps- in WC 2006 man pull he dreadlocks and pull he down-the result was a disaster - who pulling he hair now? Who is he Delaila? Ah boi they find yuh weakness and yuh getting pulled down again! Wake up Toco and Make ah point- don't make the samemistakeagain!
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Breds don't waste your time with these brainwashed people... They only see one way, they think TK is some saviour and Sancho ruining football, when he exposed corruption and also has these dictators on the back foot.. He's not perfect but no one is..
They are mad Sancho happens to be with UNC... If Sancho was a PNM till I die like weary, bakes, brown sugar or one of those myopic stooges then he would be accepted.. They don't realize all these politicians are manipulators.. Sancho jump at an opportunity, God given.. Everything happens for a reason.. TK doesn't have the time or focus for the job.. With the new constitution he will be departing soon form the position.. So it's best he make it amicable while he's there...
Last time I check.. Sancho not running our football, he merely facilitating the process for MOS in helping TTFA..
Where is TK sponsors and investment?
Provocative comment, but I suspect you don't honestly believe this? (or should no longer believe this?) ... particularly since you've been presented with ample evidence to the contrary?
(P.S. Yuh jes love calling Bakes name, eh ... I think he's invoked subliminally or mentioned overtly in all of your posts).
actually Seeker, Bakes, weary and sugar have not said a word against TK... so why should I believe differently? Most of the ferocious attacks originate from PNM supporters or sympathizers...not all, as many people are caught in the middle of a PR war to discredit one another, so they choose the middle, when really, there is no middle, it is weighed heavily against TK... if you can point out some statements that prove my statement wrong, please inform me, maybe I missed them or misinterpreted them.. weary and sugar have always been huge supporters of Sancho but the minute he picked up that yellow partisan jersey, the stance changed...
i am an open minded person and I'm willing to admit if I am wrong, but I would need to see the evidence that is contrary to my belief..
Where should we start first? With the "PNM till I (i.e. they) die" charge?
Are you refuting weary, sugar and the other names mentioned are not PNM supporters? And it has not affected their stance on Sancho? With Bakes it is more complex, part personal vendetta, part affiliation..
You can add, lefty, sando prince and others to the list as well..
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Breds don't waste your time with these brainwashed people... They only see one way, they think TK is some saviour and Sancho ruining football, when he exposed corruption and also has these dictators on the back foot.. He's not perfect but no one is..
They are mad Sancho happens to be with UNC... If Sancho was a PNM till I die like weary, bakes, brown sugar or one of those myopic stooges then he would be accepted.. They don't realize all these politicians are manipulators.. Sancho jump at an opportunity, God given.. Everything happens for a reason.. TK doesn't have the time or focus for the job.. With the new constitution he will be departing soon form the position.. So it's best he make it amicable while he's there...
Last time I check.. Sancho not running our football, he merely facilitating the process for MOS in helping TTFA..
Where is TK sponsors and investment?
Provocative comment, but I suspect you don't honestly believe this? (or should no longer believe this?) ... particularly since you've been presented with ample evidence to the contrary?
(P.S. Yuh jes love calling Bakes name, eh ... I think he's invoked subliminally or mentioned overtly in all of your posts).
actually Seeker, Bakes, weary and sugar have not said a word against TK... so why should I believe differently? Most of the ferocious attacks originate from PNM supporters or sympathizers...not all, as many people are caught in the middle of a PR war to discredit one another, so they choose the middle, when really, there is no middle, it is weighed heavily against TK... if you can point out some statements that prove my statement wrong, please inform me, maybe I missed them or misinterpreted them.. weary and sugar have always been huge supporters of Sancho but the minute he picked up that yellow partisan jersey, the stance changed...
i am an open minded person and I'm willing to admit if I am wrong, but I would need to see the evidence that is contrary to my belief..
Where should we start first? With the "PNM till I (i.e. they) die" charge?
Are you refuting weary, sugar and the other names mentioned are not PNM supporters? And it has not affected their stance on Sancho? With Bakes it is more complex, part personal vendetta, part affiliation..
You can add, lefty, sando prince and others to the list as well..
Breds, the people at home cannot devoid themselves from party politics. Them in the lions den. We in foreign watching from the outside. Weary and Sugar and them are the ones who have to walk the streets and turn their backs all the time, because some punk from East of the river might try to jump them. If people align themselves to a party, they are called brainwashed. If they show no interest or sit on the fence, they are accused of being apathetic. There were many PNM people who voted UNC to get rid of Manning. Weary or Sugar may have done that. One of them said so on this forum. You could say you either here nor there. Weary, Sando and others making it plain where their interest lies. You know where yours lie. If you were in TT you would definitely vote for one of them. Me too.
The reason why they bussin Sancho is of course he join the UNC. The same party that coveted the special advisor who shame this country internationally. The same special advisor who was bussin the blacklisted warriors throats. This entire forum was on the Warriors side right thru. But when Brent went with UNC, they see it as some kind of betrayal. That is just the way they feel. He went political, so they turn on he. There are 2 parties in TT. UNC and PNM. Pick friggin one!!!!
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Just to reply to some of the points made by Deeks & KD. There is no belief that Tim-Kee is corrupt. However it is felt within the Ministry and SPORTT that TTFA receive far too much, do not manage their finances correctly, are very secretive about their finances, arrogantly expect MoS to foot every bill presented and their achievements do not equate to the investment made by MoS on behalf of the taxpayers. These are not all necessarily the view of Sancho, but people who help to orchestrate policy and implementation.
TTFA had complaints about the previous Permanent Secretary, yet within a month of the new P.S. taking office, she had serious concerns. Not being a "football person" she was unaware that TTFA would also receive travel grants from CONCACAF for Gold Cup. This caused serious questions to be asked and that lack of transparency will now haunt any TTFA funding requests.
The scheduling of games is another concern. If TTFA can fund them, then that's great. But if support is expected then MoS should have been consulted in the planning stage. The fiscal year ends in September and new money won't flow until end of October. Also, how can MoS budget for expenses that they don't know about? This is the same prob;em with Match fees and stipends. MoS doesn't negotiate them so why should they pay them? How can one party agree a figure with another party without knowing if the third party can actually pay?
This is where the conflict happens. And RTK can always run to the press and complain and he knows that during an election season this will damage Sancho.
FROM A TTFA Insider
Just to reply to some of the points made by Deeks & KD. There is no belief that Tim-Kee is corrupt. However it is felt within the Ministry and SPORTT that TTFA receive far too much, do not manage their finances correctly, are very secretive about their finances, arrogantly expect MoS to foot every bill presented and their achievements do not equate to the investment made by MoS on behalf of the taxpayers. These are not all necessarily the view of Sancho, but people who help to orchestrate policy and implementation.
Based on what criteria do we “receive far too much”? Based on what evidence do we “not manage our finances correctly”. Remember, this is a ministry that is steeped in financial impropriety. The MOS has routinely changed their commitment and expect us to properly plan, then when we do locate other funding Sancho makes an issue of that by coding that we aren’t being transparent.
We have a number of emails that were shared with MOS that show the breakdown of how the CONCACAF money would have been used and as far back as June 29, we alerted MOS about the CONCACAF funds and how we would use them for the other national teams since the MOS themselves stated our had run out.
I also wonder what criteria they use to measure “achievement” and how much taxpayers dollars should be provided based on their arbitrary achievement. Do you see the insincerity and disingenuousness of his statement? Coupled with the fact that the senior team under Stephen Hart has very successful and are entering the fourth round of world cup qualifying because of the banner year they had in 2014. Lastly, they had a great Gold Cup, including playing in the “greatest match of the Gold Cup history” vs. Mexico. Clearly the money has been a wise investment as people are excited about this team once again.
Also, we don’t expect the MOS to foot every bill. The MOS has paid for travel, match fees, and hotel traditionally. This has been a long standing arrangement and when we first began speaking with Sancho and staff, these were the three items they committed to continue supporting. The problem is some in the ministry, including Sancho, believe the player match fees are too high which is an incredible statement considering the match fees he was getting when he played was more. On the other hand, I prefer a sliding scale match fee system where the players will get $--- for a loss, $---- for a tie, and $---- for a win. Currently, they get $same amount for a win, lose, or draw.
TTFA had complaints about the previous Permanent Secretary, yet within a month of the new P.S. taking office, she had serious concerns. Not being a "football person" she was unaware that TTFA would also receive travel grants from CONCACAF for Gold Cup. This caused serious questions to be asked and that lack of transparency will now haunt any TTFA funding requests.
This is funny because Brent and Kevin hated the previous PS and actually forced him out. Furthermore, our complaints about the previous PS were more than understandable. He was very much the cause of the distrust that arose. The current PS is working with as we speak and Kevin is in no position to speak on her behalf. We fully explained how the CONCACAF funds were used and backed up our explanation with records.
The scheduling of games is another concern. If TTFA can fund them, then that's great. But if support is expected then MoS should have been consulted in the planning stage. The fiscal year ends in September and new money won't flow until end of October. Also, how can MoS budget for expenses that they don't know about? This is the same prob;em with Match fees and stipends. MoS doesn't negotiate them so why should they pay them? How can one party agree a figure with another party without knowing if the third party can actually pay?
Kevin is speaking out of turn once again. As recently as this afternoon, William Wallace was meeting with the PS to go over the budget for the upcoming budgets for the friendly matches in September and October. Now get this; these budgets were submitted back in April and included the FIFA calendar dates. But the most ridiculous line is about the match fees; “MOS doesnt negotiate them so why should they pay them?” That speaks clearly about Sancho and Harrison’s expectation to run the FA because they provide the funding. So they want to now negotiate our player match fees and match contracts? They already try to tell us who we can take on our staff on trips. There are people in MOS who do not understand their job is to facilitate and serve sporting bodies NOT RUN THEM.
Even though they repeatedly say they don’t want to run football, we get the distinct impression that we have to ask their permission to do anything or else they will threaten to cut off funding and that my friend is classic government interference and why FIFA is so harsh on the matter when they see it. If we weren’t willing to fight and manage this, FIFA would have the right to suspend our FA and keep the senior team from participating in world cup qualifiers.
This is where the conflict happens. And RTK can always run to the press and complain and he knows that during an election season this will damage Sancho.
Another ridiculous statement. Brent cannot see a microphone or camera he is able to turn away from and he was the one who repeatedly made incorrect statements about the TTFA. Our two releases were directly caused by comments Sancho made to the press. Whatever, pressure Sancho is now getting he brought on himself. Check out Lasana’s articles since he became minister and tell me who has been the aggressor.
The PM gives the 2006 players $1.3 million US and says it has nothing to do with the TTFA and the legal case should continue and they say we are playing politics. They tell us they won’t support playing New Zealand in Los Angeles even though our airfare, hotel, and ground expenses were paid for by New Zealand because they wanted the match to be played in Trinidad since it was on the week of local elections AND THEY HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY WE ARE PLAYING POLITICS.
“The more a man speaks of honor, the quicker I check the spoons when walks out the door.”
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Here we go again.
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Just to reply to some of the points made by Deeks & KD. There is no belief that Tim-Kee is corrupt. However it is felt within the Ministry and SPORTT that TTFA receive far too much, do not manage their finances correctly, are very secretive about their finances, arrogantly expect MoS to foot every bill presented and their achievements do not equate to the investment made by MoS on behalf of the taxpayers. These are not all necessarily the view of Sancho, but people who help to orchestrate policy and implementation.
TTFA had complaints about the previous Permanent Secretary, yet within a month of the new P.S. taking office, she had serious concerns. Not being a "football person" she was unaware that TTFA would also receive travel grants from CONCACAF for Gold Cup. This caused serious questions to be asked and that lack of transparency will now haunt any TTFA funding requests.
The scheduling of games is another concern. If TTFA can fund them, then that's great. But if support is expected then MoS should have been consulted in the planning stage. The fiscal year ends in September and new money won't flow until end of October. Also, how can MoS budget for expenses that they don't know about? This is the same prob;em with Match fees and stipends. MoS doesn't negotiate them so why should they pay them? How can one party agree a figure with another party without knowing if the third party can actually pay?
This is where the conflict happens. And RTK can always run to the press and complain and he knows that during an election season this will damage Sancho.
FROM A TTFA Insider
Just to reply to some of the points made by Deeks & KD. There is no belief that Tim-Kee is corrupt. However it is felt within the Ministry and SPORTT that TTFA receive far too much, do not manage their finances correctly, are very secretive about their finances, arrogantly expect MoS to foot every bill presented and their achievements do not equate to the investment made by MoS on behalf of the taxpayers. These are not all necessarily the view of Sancho, but people who help to orchestrate policy and implementation.
Based on what criteria do we “receive far too much”? Based on what evidence do we “not manage our finances correctly”. Remember, this is a ministry that is steeped in financial impropriety. The MOS has routinely changed their commitment and expect us to properly plan, then when we do locate other funding Sancho makes an issue of that by coding that we aren’t being transparent.
We have a number of emails that were shared with MOS that show the breakdown of how the CONCACAF money would have been used and as far back as June 29, we alerted MOS about the CONCACAF funds and how we would use them for the other national teams since the MOS themselves stated our had run out.
I also wonder what criteria they use to measure “achievement” and how much taxpayers dollars should be provided based on their arbitrary achievement. Do you see the insincerity and disingenuousness of his statement? Coupled with the fact that the senior team under Stephen Hart has very successful and are entering the fourth round of world cup qualifying because of the banner year they had in 2014. Lastly, they had a great Gold Cup, including playing in the “greatest match of the Gold Cup history” vs. Mexico. Clearly the money has been a wise investment as people are excited about this team once again.
Also, we don’t expect the MOS to foot every bill. The MOS has paid for travel, match fees, and hotel traditionally. This has been a long standing arrangement and when we first began speaking with Sancho and staff, these were the three items they committed to continue supporting. The problem is some in the ministry, including Sancho, believe the player match fees are too high which is an incredible statement considering the match fees he was getting when he played was more. On the other hand, I prefer a sliding scale match fee system where the players will get $--- for a loss, $---- for a tie, and $---- for a win. Currently, they get $same amount for a win, lose, or draw.
TTFA had complaints about the previous Permanent Secretary, yet within a month of the new P.S. taking office, she had serious concerns. Not being a "football person" she was unaware that TTFA would also receive travel grants from CONCACAF for Gold Cup. This caused serious questions to be asked and that lack of transparency will now haunt any TTFA funding requests.
This is funny because Brent and Kevin hated the previous PS and actually forced him out. Furthermore, our complaints about the previous PS were more than understandable. He was very much the cause of the distrust that arose. The current PS is working with as we speak and Kevin is in no position to speak on her behalf. We fully explained how the CONCACAF funds were used and backed up our explanation with records.
The scheduling of games is another concern. If TTFA can fund them, then that's great. But if support is expected then MoS should have been consulted in the planning stage. The fiscal year ends in September and new money won't flow until end of October. Also, how can MoS budget for expenses that they don't know about? This is the same prob;em with Match fees and stipends. MoS doesn't negotiate them so why should they pay them? How can one party agree a figure with another party without knowing if the third party can actually pay?
Kevin is speaking out of turn once again. As recently as this afternoon, William Wallace was meeting with the PS to go over the budget for the upcoming budgets for the friendly matches in September and October. Now get this; these budgets were submitted back in April and included the FIFA calendar dates. But the most ridiculous line is about the match fees; “MOS doesnt negotiate them so why should they pay them?” That speaks clearly about Sancho and Harrison’s expectation to run the FA because they provide the funding. So they want to now negotiate our player match fees and match contracts? They already try to tell us who we can take on our staff on trips. There are people in MOS who do not understand their job is to facilitate and serve sporting bodies NOT RUN THEM.
Even though they repeatedly say they don’t want to run football, we get the distinct impression that we have to ask their permission to do anything or else they will threaten to cut off funding and that my friend is classic government interference and why FIFA is so harsh on the matter when they see it. If we weren’t willing to fight and manage this, FIFA would have the right to suspend our FA and keep the senior team from participating in world cup qualifiers.
This is where the conflict happens. And RTK can always run to the press and complain and he knows that during an election season this will damage Sancho.
Another ridiculous statement. Brent cannot see a microphone or camera he is able to turn away from and he was the one who repeatedly made incorrect statements about the TTFA. Our two releases were directly caused by comments Sancho made to the press. Whatever, pressure Sancho is now getting he brought on himself. Check out Lasana’s articles since he became minister and tell me who has been the aggressor.
The PM gives the 2006 players $1.3 million US and says it has nothing to do with the TTFA and the legal case should continue and they say we are playing politics. They tell us they won’t support playing New Zealand in Los Angeles even though our airfare, hotel, and ground expenses were paid for by New Zealand because they wanted the match to be played in Trinidad since it was on the week of local elections AND THEY HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY WE ARE PLAYING POLITICS.
“The more a man speaks of honor, the quicker I check the spoons when walks out the door.”
When was the NZ match scheduled for?
Match fees should be on a scale... And the players shouldn't be paid less than before imo... All valid points..
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FROM A TTFA Insider = Name?
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Just to reply to some of the points made by Deeks & KD. There is no belief that Tim-Kee is corrupt. However it is felt within the Ministry and SPORTT that TTFA receive far too much, do not manage their finances correctly, are very secretive about their finances, arrogantly expect MoS to foot every bill presented and their achievements do not equate to the investment made by MoS on behalf of the taxpayers. These are not all necessarily the view of Sancho, but people who help to orchestrate policy and implementation.
TTFA had complaints about the previous Permanent Secretary, yet within a month of the new P.S. taking office, she had serious concerns. Not being a "football person" she was unaware that TTFA would also receive travel grants from CONCACAF for Gold Cup. This caused serious questions to be asked and that lack of transparency will now haunt any TTFA funding requests.
The scheduling of games is another concern. If TTFA can fund them, then that's great. But if support is expected then MoS should have been consulted in the planning stage. The fiscal year ends in September and new money won't flow until end of October. Also, how can MoS budget for expenses that they don't know about? This is the same prob;em with Match fees and stipends. MoS doesn't negotiate them so why should they pay them? How can one party agree a figure with another party without knowing if the third party can actually pay?
This is where the conflict happens. And RTK can always run to the press and complain and he knows that during an election season this will damage Sancho.
FROM A TTFA Insider
Just to reply to some of the points made by Deeks & KD. There is no belief that Tim-Kee is corrupt. However it is felt within the Ministry and SPORTT that TTFA receive far too much, do not manage their finances correctly, are very secretive about their finances, arrogantly expect MoS to foot every bill presented and their achievements do not equate to the investment made by MoS on behalf of the taxpayers. These are not all necessarily the view of Sancho, but people who help to orchestrate policy and implementation.
Based on what criteria do we “receive far too much”? Based on what evidence do we “not manage our finances correctly”. Remember, this is a ministry that is steeped in financial impropriety. The MOS has routinely changed their commitment and expect us to properly plan, then when we do locate other funding Sancho makes an issue of that by coding that we aren’t being transparent.
We have a number of emails that were shared with MOS that show the breakdown of how the CONCACAF money would have been used and as far back as June 29, we alerted MOS about the CONCACAF funds and how we would use them for the other national teams since the MOS themselves stated our had run out.
I also wonder what criteria they use to measure “achievement” and how much taxpayers dollars should be provided based on their arbitrary achievement. Do you see the insincerity and disingenuousness of his statement? Coupled with the fact that the senior team under Stephen Hart has very successful and are entering the fourth round of world cup qualifying because of the banner year they had in 2014. Lastly, they had a great Gold Cup, including playing in the “greatest match of the Gold Cup history” vs. Mexico. Clearly the money has been a wise investment as people are excited about this team once again.
Also, we don’t expect the MOS to foot every bill. The MOS has paid for travel, match fees, and hotel traditionally. This has been a long standing arrangement and when we first began speaking with Sancho and staff, these were the three items they committed to continue supporting. The problem is some in the ministry, including Sancho, believe the player match fees are too high which is an incredible statement considering the match fees he was getting when he played was more. On the other hand, I prefer a sliding scale match fee system where the players will get $--- for a loss, $---- for a tie, and $---- for a win. Currently, they get $same amount for a win, lose, or draw.
TTFA had complaints about the previous Permanent Secretary, yet within a month of the new P.S. taking office, she had serious concerns. Not being a "football person" she was unaware that TTFA would also receive travel grants from CONCACAF for Gold Cup. This caused serious questions to be asked and that lack of transparency will now haunt any TTFA funding requests.
This is funny because Brent and Kevin hated the previous PS and actually forced him out. Furthermore, our complaints about the previous PS were more than understandable. He was very much the cause of the distrust that arose. The current PS is working with as we speak and Kevin is in no position to speak on her behalf. We fully explained how the CONCACAF funds were used and backed up our explanation with records.
The scheduling of games is another concern. If TTFA can fund them, then that's great. But if support is expected then MoS should have been consulted in the planning stage. The fiscal year ends in September and new money won't flow until end of October. Also, how can MoS budget for expenses that they don't know about? This is the same prob;em with Match fees and stipends. MoS doesn't negotiate them so why should they pay them? How can one party agree a figure with another party without knowing if the third party can actually pay?
Kevin is speaking out of turn once again. As recently as this afternoon, William Wallace was meeting with the PS to go over the budget for the upcoming budgets for the friendly matches in September and October. Now get this; these budgets were submitted back in April and included the FIFA calendar dates. But the most ridiculous line is about the match fees; “MOS doesnt negotiate them so why should they pay them?” That speaks clearly about Sancho and Harrison’s expectation to run the FA because they provide the funding. So they want to now negotiate our player match fees and match contracts? They already try to tell us who we can take on our staff on trips. There are people in MOS who do not understand their job is to facilitate and serve sporting bodies NOT RUN THEM.
Even though they repeatedly say they don’t want to run football, we get the distinct impression that we have to ask their permission to do anything or else they will threaten to cut off funding and that my friend is classic government interference and why FIFA is so harsh on the matter when they see it. If we weren’t willing to fight and manage this, FIFA would have the right to suspend our FA and keep the senior team from participating in world cup qualifiers.
This is where the conflict happens. And RTK can always run to the press and complain and he knows that during an election season this will damage Sancho.
Another ridiculous statement. Brent cannot see a microphone or camera he is able to turn away from and he was the one who repeatedly made incorrect statements about the TTFA. Our two releases were directly caused by comments Sancho made to the press. Whatever, pressure Sancho is now getting he brought on himself. Check out Lasana’s articles since he became minister and tell me who has been the aggressor.
The PM gives the 2006 players $1.3 million US and says it has nothing to do with the TTFA and the legal case should continue and they say we are playing politics. They tell us they won’t support playing New Zealand in Los Angeles even though our airfare, hotel, and ground expenses were paid for by New Zealand because they wanted the match to be played in Trinidad since it was on the week of local elections AND THEY HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY WE ARE PLAYING POLITICS.
The more a man speaks of honor, the quicker I check the spoons when walks out the door.
Nice insight Flex.
FS made his comments and it was answered. Fair deal.
Both parties need to come together cause I am sure both have good and bad points.
Its sad that Sancho have tured a full time politician and he was the one always fighting for T&T football players.
If he so cares, why not revisit the FPATT?
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FROM A TTFA Insider = Name?
Just guessing, but it's either Sheldon, Lincoln, small mag if he still there or Wallace... Of course I could be dead wrong :D
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FROM A TTFA Insider = Name?
Flex!!!!!!!
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Sancho want transparency but yet he in de press lying everyday.
De man is all flash, show him a camera and a mic and he talking even if its for masala radio station 101.1fm.
De longest ropae have ah end.
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The more we divide the harder it becomes for us to unite
Like my mama would say politricks is in everything from the air we breathe to the water we drink
Plus its elections time again,who are going to vote for now
As all want control of the cash register
Its a blessed day
Rastafari
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The more we divide the harder it becomes for us to uniteLike my mama would say politricks is in everything from the air we breathe to the water we drink
Plus its elections time again,who are going to vote for now
As all want control of the cash register
Its a blessed day
Rastafari
Very well said my friend.
Divisions in the Church
I appeal to you, brothers,1 in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you2 and that you may be perfectly united3 in mind and thought - 1 Corinthians 1:10 NIV.
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The more we divide the harder it becomes for us to uniteLike my mama would say politricks is in everything from the air we breathe to the water we drink
Plus its elections time again,who are going to vote for now
As all want control of the cash register
Its a blessed day
Rastafari
Very well said my friend.
Divisions in the Church
I appeal to you, brothers,1 in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you2 and that you may be perfectly united3 in mind and thought - 1 Corinthians 1:10 NIV.
Amen to that... Together we stand, divided we fall..
Right now the nation is allowing politics to divide us a people..
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Well fellas, politics is all about bread and butter. It has always been about that. When your side win, you get most of the bread and butter and also the means to keep it that way. And vice versa.
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FROM A TTFA Insider = Name?
Obviously, it's Sheldon. Which is fair enough, as Bakes isn't here to speak for TTFA anymore. It's actually refreshing to hear direct from TTFA. But I am, of course, not in agreement with all of Sheldon's comments. For example, I clearly stated that "it is felt within the Ministry and SPORTT" and "people who help to orchestrate policy and implementation." If these were the feelings of myself or Sancho, I would have said that. Sheldon knows this is the feeling because when he attends meetings, they tell him these things! Yet he is now trying to say that it is myself and Sancho saying this. (Although some of those areas we may also believe!)
The Ministry has had a shocking history....one that parallels TTFF's! But I don't believe there are any "financial impropriety" at the feet of Minister Sancho?
We have a number of emails that were shared with MOS that show the breakdown of how the CONCACAF money would have been used and as far back as June 29, True enough. Sadly, we have emails from 25th of June from TTFA saying that CONCACAF only pay for internal flights and TTFA have to pay for travel to and from the host nation!
Sancho (and myself) both said that the match fees were too high if the Ministry was expected to pay them because the Cabinet note and subvention would be exhausted if we continued to pay those kind of fees. So said, so done. Now we had to pull teams out of competitions because money done. We also said that players should be paid more than they do, but that money should be sourced by TTFA. Is it so outrageous to expect an employer to pay wages? What if TTFA decide to pay US$3,000 match fee? Why do staff get match fees? Nobody expects anyone to work for free, even those representing their country, but the more money spent on match fees, the less is available for other national teams. The U23's and the women were the only athletes paid for attending PanAm. Sancho didn't get paid for playing at PanAm neither did players like Sean de Silva, Leston Paul etc. Pay them by all means, but source the funding from other directions.
All of this talk of interference and not wanting to pay was the Ministry trying to ensure that funds were not exhausted with debts outstanding. Any teenager will complain about his parents not giving him enough money and how they made him buy his own trainers when he wanted to go to a fete.
It's laughable that Sheldon describes RTK now as a victim. Who was the last sporting president to meet with Sancho? Who described Sancho as the "worst sport minister ever"? "Who refused to meet the Minister?" Of course, that wasn't aggressive, right?
As for running football, well, it seems no one else is! When does Pro League, Super League and TTFA sit down and plan a way forward? Anil Roberts tried to do it and it never happened. Football takes a huge slice of the MoS funding, which may be ok, but it has to be managed. We have a massive World Cup campaign on the horizon, but what about the other 10 national teams? They have campaigns too. It's a huge task for TTFA to manage, but it is clear that they need additional funding. This can only come from corporate or directly from the public. How can we attract this investment? Who is spearheading a player's association? How will it be funded? Who is developing a promotion/relegation plan for league football? How will that be funded?
Football does not belong to TTFA, it belongs to the people. The people do not vote for TTFA officers, they vote for governments. If they don't like what Sancho does, they can vote him out. They can't vote out RTK or his successor. They can't vote out Sheldon Phillips.
So, why can't the Ministry of Sport, football's biggest investor, have a say in how football is developed? The MoS can't make TTFA, Pro League or Super League do anything they don't want to. But perhaps they can develop a blueprint to a way forward?
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I warned you guys about Brent Sancho and to an extent Kelvin Jack a long time ago.
These two gooses are hungry and will do anything for money.
All of you guys here jumped on me, now I am glad you are seeing for your own eyes.
I know the guy personally, he will sell his ass for fame if he gets a chance and guys pay attention, his sidekick Harrison is enjoying the ride on his lap, this guy was a bum in England, Sancho took him up and now he is in T&T politics trying to suffer our own country footballers and some here can't see this?
I remember, him writing Kamla begging her to go after Jack for their money, they were calling her, crying.
At least Jack Warner gave back a lot more, he fed Sancho and company for many years.
I dare Sancho to come after Jack Warner, like you guys suggesting.
And for all the haters, I can bet my last dollar Jack is not going anywhere, don't believe the hype.
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
manchild say Sanko wuss than Austin oui!
As Sanko strums "Bitch better have my money"! on he quatro.
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I warned you guys about Brent Sancho and to an extent Kelvin Jack a long time ago.
These two gooses are hungry and will do anything for money.
All of you guys here jumped on me, now I am glad you are seeing for your own eyes.
I know the guy personally, he will sell his ass for fame if he gets a chance and guys pay attention, his sidekick Harrison is enjoying the ride on his lap, this guy was a bum in England, Sancho took him up and now he is in T&T politics trying to suffer our own country footballers and some here can't see this?
I remember, him writing Kamla begging her to go after Jack for their money, they were calling her, crying.
At least Jack Warner gave back a lot more, he fed Sancho and company for many years.
I dare Sancho to come after Jack Warner, like you guys suggesting.
And for all the haters, I can bet my last dollar Jack is not going anywhere, don't believe the hype.
Bum? Boy, you have a real ass fetish, yes.
At least Jack Warner gave back a lot more, he fed Sancho and company for many years. Well Jack starved the poor Haitian earthquake victims. Until Warner can fess up and tell us what he did with the money he stole from the earthquake victims, keep your worthless opinions to yourself.
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I warned you guys about Brent Sancho and to an extent Kelvin Jack a long time ago.
These two gooses are hungry and will do anything for money.
All of you guys here jumped on me, now I am glad you are seeing for your own eyes.
I know the guy personally, he will sell his ass for fame if he gets a chance and guys pay attention, his sidekick Harrison is enjoying the ride on his lap, this guy was a bum in England, Sancho took him up and now he is in T&T politics trying to suffer our own country footballers and some here can't see this?
I remember, him writing Kamla begging her to go after Jack for their money, they were calling her, crying.
At least Jack Warner gave back a lot more, he fed Sancho and company for many years.
I dare Sancho to come after Jack Warner, like you guys suggesting.
And for all the haters, I can bet my last dollar Jack is not going anywhere, don't believe the hype.
I may not agree with everything about Sancho, Harrison, Phillips or Tim Kee but they're a damn sight better than you and your parasitic family. GTHOH with that BS
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FS, sorry to hear about Central lost.
By the way, did you guys got any visa issues?
I noticed a few players were missing?
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I want to start up a private recycling factory in Trini. I wonder if it have room on this site for me to siddong and talk sh!t bout ' the gov't have a duty to support recycling' when i submit my budget for water and lights and toxicologists. i wonder if the owners and administrators of this website will be parroting that same BS?
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I want to start up a private recycling factory in Trini. I wonder if it have room on this site for me to siddong and talk sh!t bout ' the gov't have a duty to support recycling' when i submit my budget for water and lights and toxicologists. i wonder if the owners and administrators of this website will be parroting that same BS?
Do you know where the Ministry of Recycling office is... or if you know anything of it's statutory mandate to the public?
The Ministry of Sports was created by Act of Parliament to oversee sports and sports-related activity in TnT. This includes funding where necessary. Football is a sport and deserves funding the same as other sporting bodies.
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I want to start up a private recycling factory in Trini. I wonder if it have room on this site for me to siddong and talk sh!t bout ' the gov't have a duty to support recycling' when i submit my budget for water and lights and toxicologists. i wonder if the owners and administrators of this website will be parroting that same BS?
Do you know where the Ministry of Recycling office is... or if you know anything of it's statutory mandate to the public?
The Ministry of Sports was created by Act of Parliament to oversee sports and sports-related activity in TnT. This includes funding where necessary. Football is a sport and deserves funding the same as other sporting bodies.
This is true. But there are 10,s of thousands of athletes who feel that football should, as you said, be funded "the same as other sporting bodies." For example, I went to a Special Olympic presentation to celebrate the 48 medals they won in Los Angeles. They feel they should get more. Hell, I feel they should get more. And they raised funding from Digicel and several other sponsors as well as the pittance provided by MoS.
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I want to start up a private recycling factory in Trini. I wonder if it have room on this site for me to siddong and talk sh!t bout ' the gov't have a duty to support recycling' when i submit my budget for water and lights and toxicologists. i wonder if the owners and administrators of this website will be parroting that same BS?
Do you know where the Ministry of Recycling office is... or if you know anything of it's statutory mandate to the public?
The Ministry of Sports was created by Act of Parliament to oversee sports and sports-related activity in TnT. This includes funding where necessary. Football is a sport and deserves funding the same as other sporting bodies.
Recycling would fall under Ministry of Environment and Water Resources http://www.mewr.gov.tt/ (http://www.mewr.gov.tt/) (just like football would fall under sports). There is already one private landfill along with the 6 or so gov't owned ones, so I wouldn't be setting precedent :)
so a broad statement such as "football deserves funding....the 'same' as other sporting bodies" would probably not get us far, b/c football has received funding...and the argument is.... documents (http://www.sport.gov.tt/funding/grant-funding/deadline-for-document-submission-for-grant-funding)? more of a share (more 'same') of the 25 million annually for all 15 sports (http://www.sportt-tt.com/FundingSport.aspx) for football? suggestion that TTFA could actually raise a better portion of their own budget? I think we arguing them things for months now so I'll skip.
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Without browsing through the thread I bet Football Supporter and Jumbie defending San-ko like dem lives depended upon it :D
Just a few more weeks for the bacchanalist Sank-ko to end his drama filled MOS tenure
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Without browsing through the thread I bet Football Supporter and Jumbie defending San-ko like dem lives depended upon it :D
Just a few more weeks for the bacchanalist Sank-ko to end his drama filled MOS tenure
Be careful what you wish for.....you may just get it.
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really wish you had a vagina (and not ACT like you had one) so I could pay you some attention.
FYI, the elections which concerns me is October 19, 2015. Ah bet you can't vote in an American election and have no vote in ah Trinbago election!
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^^ why this emotional clown above me is making an azz of himself. Aye Jumbie clown you don't know where I can vote and where I live. The voices in yuh head embarrassing you again :D
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Without browsing through the thread I bet Football Supporter and Jumbie defending San-ko like dem lives depended upon it :D
Just a few more weeks for the bacchanalist Sank-ko to end his drama filled MOS tenure
I would be interested to know who you would like to be PNM Minister of Sport?
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Without browsing through the thread I bet Football Supporter and Jumbie defending San-ko like dem lives depended upon it :D
Just a few more weeks for the bacchanalist Sank-ko to end his drama filled MOS tenure
I would be interested to know who you would like to be PNM Minister of Sport?
FS.....I will not answer this question but I will state only this, even If TTFA organization and coordination skills were in tip top shape(which it isn't)....dotted every "i" and crossed every "t".........there would still be undue pressure and an undercurrent of sabotage because of tim kee politics it is the MO of the UNC.....Griffith being a noted though short lived exception.... dem is Sancho boss and he himself have ah axe to grind
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Without browsing through the thread I bet Football Supporter and Jumbie defending San-ko like dem lives depended upon it :D
Just a few more weeks for the bacchanalist Sank-ko to end his drama filled MOS tenure
I would be interested to know who you would like to be PNM Minister of Sport?
FS.....I will not answer this question but I will state only this, even If TTFA organization and coordination skills were in tip top shape(which it isn't)....dotted every "i" and crossed every "t".........there would still be undue pressure and an undercurrent of sabotage because of tim kee politics it is the MO of the UNC.....Griffith being a noted though short lived exception.... dem is Sancho boss and he himself have ah axe to grind
As I have stated before, there are many ardent PNM supporters within the Ministry, and no doubt, many UNC supporters too. Neither group receives "orders" from political parties, both groups love football and both groups are disillusioned and unsupportive of TTFA in its current format.
My self and the Permanent Secretary receive no orders from the Government regarding sporting organisations.
I cannot profess that Sancho tells me all that is discussed in cabinet, but it is my belief that Kamla and co have more pressing business than RTK. In fact, I will go further in that when evidence appeared that RTK was privy to Warner's financial capers at TTFF, there was no interest from the government in pursuing it or using that information for political gain.
Now, I'm not saying that either party are above mud slinging, but this fight between RTK and Sancho, while I still believe is politically motivated by RTK, is nothing to do with the People's Partnership.
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Without browsing through the thread I bet Football Supporter and Jumbie defending San-ko like dem lives depended upon it :D
Just a few more weeks for the bacchanalist Sank-ko to end his drama filled MOS tenure
I would be interested to know who you would like to be PNM Minister of Sport?
FS.....I will not answer this question but I will state only this, even If TTFA organization and coordination skills were in tip top shape(which it isn't)....dotted every "i" and crossed every "t".........there would still be undue pressure and an undercurrent of sabotage because of tim kee politics it is the MO of the UNC.....Griffith being a noted though short lived exception.... dem is Sancho boss and he himself have ah axe to grind
As I have stated before, there are many ardent PNM supporters within the Ministry, and no doubt, many UNC supporters too. Neither group receives "orders" from political parties, both groups love football and both groups are disillusioned and unsupportive of TTFA in its current format.
My self and the Permanent Secretary receive no orders from the Government regarding sporting organisations.
I cannot profess that Sancho tells me all that is discussed in cabinet, but it is my belief that Kamla and co have more pressing business than RTK. In fact, I will go further in that when evidence appeared that RTK was privy to Warner's financial capers at TTFF, there was no interest from the government in pursuing it or using that information for political gain.
Now, I'm not saying that either party are above mud slinging, but this fight between RTK and Sancho, while I still believe is politically motivated by RTK, is nothing to do with the People's Partnership.
right due to what..........
the organizational bungling...........I will back you their
the inability to source funding outside of subventions..........we discussed this.....TTFA reputation in tatters due to TTFF/JW......politics at state companies
I would agree that if the FA wants gov't funds it should be more forthcoming in its financial affairs.......but up to recently Sancho was suggesting using gate receipts to pay players.....dat is non starter given the state of the product being sold again TTFF REP AFTER JACK/06 in tatters.....though I think TTFA missed a genuine opportunity to market the product for GC....dat CNMG stream was ah waste of time and d effort much to late if u ask me........but I digress.....what do u think would be the the MoS position on "funds set aside" most likely answer would be "use dat" irregardless of what it was intended for, given the relationship as it has stood over the last 5 years......is it right to withhold info of said, if it is being done, No, but with the ministry possibly willing to cut any submitted budget based on that...............
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Without browsing through the thread I bet Football Supporter and Jumbie defending San-ko like dem lives depended upon it :D
Just a few more weeks for the bacchanalist Sank-ko to end his drama filled MOS tenure
I would be interested to know who you would like to be PNM Minister of Sport?
FS.....I will not answer this question but I will state only this, even If TTFA organization and coordination skills were in tip top shape(which it isn't)....dotted every "i" and crossed every "t".........there would still be undue pressure and an undercurrent of sabotage because of tim kee politics it is the MO of the UNC.....Griffith being a noted though short lived exception.... dem is Sancho boss and he himself have ah axe to grind
As I have stated before, there are many ardent PNM supporters within the Ministry, and no doubt, many UNC supporters too. Neither group receives "orders" from political parties, both groups love football and both groups are disillusioned and unsupportive of TTFA in its current format.
My self and the Permanent Secretary receive no orders from the Government regarding sporting organisations.
I cannot profess that Sancho tells me all that is discussed in cabinet, but it is my belief that Kamla and co have more pressing business than RTK. In fact, I will go further in that when evidence appeared that RTK was privy to Warner's financial capers at TTFF, there was no interest from the government in pursuing it or using that information for political gain.
Now, I'm not saying that either party are above mud slinging, but this fight between RTK and Sancho, while I still believe is politically motivated by RTK, is nothing to do with the People's Partnership.
right due to what..........
the organizational bungling...........I will back you their
the inability to source funding outside of subventions..........we discussed this.....TTFA reputation in tatters due to TTFF/JW......politics at state companies
I would agree that if the FA wants gov't funds it should be more forthcoming in its financial affairs.......but up to recently Sancho was suggesting using gate receipts to pay players.....dat is non starter given the state of the product being sold again TTFF REP AFTER JACK/06 in tatters.....though I think TTFA missed a genuine opportunity to market the product for GC....dat CNMG stream was ah waste of time and d effort much to late if u ask me........but I digress.....what do u think would be the the MoS position on "funds set aside" most likely answer would be "use dat" irregardless of what it was intended for, given the relationship as it has stood over the last 5 years......is it right to withhold info of said, if it is being done, No, but with the ministry possibly willing to cut any submitted budget based on that...............
The idea of the gate receipts was put forward by the previous Permanent Secretary because he was tired of receiving requests for debts incurred by TTFA and suggested that if there was any profit from the game which was effectively being funded by MoS, then they should go towards debt repayment.
I agree about funds set aside except in this case there was a cabinet note which could only be used for Gold Cup. Therefore, any income generated could pick up the shortfall and the remainder could be used for future projects (which is actually what happened)
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Without browsing through the thread I bet Football Supporter and Jumbie defending San-ko like dem lives depended upon it :D
Just a few more weeks for the bacchanalist Sank-ko to end his drama filled MOS tenure
I would be interested to know who you would like to be PNM Minister of Sport?
FS.....I will not answer this question but I will state only this, even If TTFA organization and coordination skills were in tip top shape(which it isn't)....dotted every "i" and crossed every "t".........there would still be undue pressure and an undercurrent of sabotage because of tim kee politics it is the MO of the UNC.....Griffith being a noted though short lived exception.... dem is Sancho boss and he himself have ah axe to grind
As I have stated before, there are many ardent PNM supporters within the Ministry, and no doubt, many UNC supporters too. Neither group receives "orders" from political parties, both groups love football and both groups are disillusioned and unsupportive of TTFA in its current format.
My self and the Permanent Secretary receive no orders from the Government regarding sporting organisations.
I cannot profess that Sancho tells me all that is discussed in cabinet, but it is my belief that Kamla and co have more pressing business than RTK. In fact, I will go further in that when evidence appeared that RTK was privy to Warner's financial capers at TTFF, there was no interest from the government in pursuing it or using that information for political gain.
Now, I'm not saying that either party are above mud slinging, but this fight between RTK and Sancho, while I still believe is politically motivated by RTK, is nothing to do with the People's Partnership.
Raymond worked for Jack you fool.
Sancho is working for a corrupted leader.
So what's your point?
Why don't you get out of our country if you can't do anything to help?
Jack has helped T&T football for over 30 years, he spent a lot of his OWN money now Sancho acting like a small pocket change is coming out of his personal pocket.
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Without browsing through the thread I bet Football Supporter and Jumbie defending San-ko like dem lives depended upon it :D
Just a few more weeks for the bacchanalist Sank-ko to end his drama filled MOS tenure
I would be interested to know who you would like to be PNM Minister of Sport?
FS.....I will not answer this question but I will state only this, even If TTFA organization and coordination skills were in tip top shape(which it isn't)....dotted every "i" and crossed every "t".........there would still be undue pressure and an undercurrent of sabotage because of tim kee politics it is the MO of the UNC.....Griffith being a noted though short lived exception.... dem is Sancho boss and he himself have ah axe to grind
As I have stated before, there are many ardent PNM supporters within the Ministry, and no doubt, many UNC supporters too. Neither group receives "orders" from political parties, both groups love football and both groups are disillusioned and unsupportive of TTFA in its current format.
My self and the Permanent Secretary receive no orders from the Government regarding sporting organisations.
I cannot profess that Sancho tells me all that is discussed in cabinet, but it is my belief that Kamla and co have more pressing business than RTK. In fact, I will go further in that when evidence appeared that RTK was privy to Warner's financial capers at TTFF, there was no interest from the government in pursuing it or using that information for political gain.
Now, I'm not saying that either party are above mud slinging, but this fight between RTK and Sancho, while I still believe is politically motivated by RTK, is nothing to do with the People's Partnership.
right due to what..........
the organizational bungling...........I will back you their
the inability to source funding outside of subventions..........we discussed this.....TTFA reputation in tatters due to TTFF/JW......politics at state companies
I would agree that if the FA wants gov't funds it should be more forthcoming in its financial affairs.......but up to recently Sancho was suggesting using gate receipts to pay players.....dat is non starter given the state of the product being sold again TTFF REP AFTER JACK/06 in tatters.....though I think TTFA missed a genuine opportunity to market the product for GC....dat CNMG stream was ah waste of time and d effort much to late if u ask me........but I digress.....what do u think would be the the MoS position on "funds set aside" most likely answer would be "use dat" irregardless of what it was intended for, given the relationship as it has stood over the last 5 years......is it right to withhold info of said, if it is being done, No, but with the ministry possibly willing to cut any submitted budget based on that...............
The idea of the gate receipts was put forward by the previous Permanent Secretary because he was tired of receiving requests for debts incurred by TTFA and suggested that if there was any profit from the game which was effectively being funded by MoS, then they should go towards debt repayment.
I agree about funds set aside except in this case there was a cabinet note which could only be used for Gold Cup. Therefore, any income generated could pick up the shortfall and the remainder could be used for future projects (which is actually what happened)
I know this.....was simply speculating on what the MoS position on any FSA amounts in the FAs books, considering the strained relationship that exists
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http://www.guardian.co.tt/sport/2015-08-23/sancho-implements-strict-accounting-polices-ministry-funding-nsos
Minister of Sport Brent Sancho has implemented new funding policies to ensure that monies distributed by the Ministry of Sport and SPORTT to National Sporting Organization and others are well accounted for and used for what it was intended. This according to his adviser Kevin Harrison, who said: “When we came in here it was always a concern as to where the money was going and what was needed to bring those asking for funds to be accountable.
“One of the simplest things we have done is to ask national sporting associations and other nationals asking for assistance to send us a detailed list of what they need. “We are also asking them to send three tenders for the items they wish to get and then we go through it carefully and choose who should supply. We then pay to the supplier directly and not to the person or persons making the request.”
Harrison who was once employed with the English Football Players Union added: “Let me show an example, if the T&T Football Association (TTFA) comes to us and tells us that they are sending a football team to let’s say to Venezuela. We then ask them for the number of players and officials that are going to Venezuela and we will then say let’s take care of the airline tickets and the accommodation.
“We then pay to the hotel and the airline directly, so we prevent money going for other things that were not budgeted for and hence in this case we can account for taxpayers dollars.” Another strategy we are using is to send members of our sport development staff to do site visits to make sure that funds are properly used.
The minister has been very strict in this regard and he is asking for regular reports on things like these. If someone comes and says they are hosting a tournament, we look at it and we always try to assist as best as we can. What we want to prevent is that monies are disbursed and then the event does not come off and someone goes off with funds.
“We will have people going around and making sure that the event comes off and that the money is well spent. The minister has made it clear that he wants proper accounting procedures in place and although he has a keen interest in assisting with funding through the ministry, he wants to make sure that the money brings value to the people of Trinidad and Tobago.
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exactly HOW I SEE IT TOO :beermug:
It has become so unfortunate, that RTK is the president of TTFA and Brent being elected MoS. I applaud Brent for requesting transparency from TTFA, if they receiving taxpayers money. I applaud RTK for having an independent team do the new constitution. Everything in between is total f--king confusion. I don't know who to believe. I friggin fed up of both. One have the money, the other don't.
FS, while Brent has not openly come out and state that RTK is corrupt, the way he says things about RTK and TTFA, makes one feel he is implying the RTK and TTFA wants to bleed the govt for money. Like Star Child, said, Brent fight is with Jack Warner and he taking it out on RTK. RTK on the other eh backing down from Brent. He inherited this massive debt left by Jack. He feels, and many agree that the govt should at least retire some of the debt Jack had incurred while he was both a prominent minister(acted as pm) and the socalled special advisor. The money that he spent to curry favor his way in the UNC/pp coalition, should have been used to retire all TTFA expenses. We all know that did not happened. Many people seem to have convenient amnesia about that.
RTK can't find the money outside of govt fast enough to retire that debt and move the TTFA forward. Waiting on the election is a gross injustice to TT football. PNM eh sure to win. If they don't, what the frigg RTK go do. Continue with this impasse. Hell friggin NO.
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A none graduate is now a minister.
2 more weeks of this.
And his sidekick Harrison, who couldn't hold down a job in England will have to look for work soon.
Wonder if he can spell the word transparency.
Surprise to see Stern John got bought. That academy sancho helping you with won your vote.
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A none graduate is now a minister.
2 more weeks of this.
And his sidekick Harrison, who couldn't hold down a job in England will have to look for work soon.
Wonder if he can spell the word transparency.
Surprise to see Stern John got bought. That academy sancho helping you with won your vote.
I can spell transparency. Sadly you can't even spell "non" as in non-graduate!
Actually old son, Sancho has an Associate degree in English and a B.Sc in Psychology .
Thankfully, I already have work so win or lose I'll survive.
But here's the thing, while Jack has his millions, guess what I can do? I can travel anywhere in the world that I like. Jack is even frightened to fly to Tobago. So who's the real joker?
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A none graduate is now a minister.
2 more weeks of this.
And his sidekick Harrison, who couldn't hold down a job in England will have to look for work soon.
Wonder if he can spell the word transparency.
Surprise to see Stern John got bought. That academy sancho helping you with won your vote.
I can spell transparency. Sadly you can't even spell "non" as in non-graduate!
Actually old son, Sancho has an Associate degree in English and a B.Sc in Psychology .
Thankfully, I already have work so win or lose I'll survive.
But here's the thing, while Jack has his millions, guess what I can do? I can travel anywhere in the world that I like. Jack is even frightened to fly to Tobago. So who's the real joker?
FS didn't know you were an englishman mate, howdee. BTW in england we use the word "NON" before a word for instance "nonentity" or "nontraditional" which becomes one word, but when you separate the words like JH did (none graduate) then it's quite common and accepted grammar in the americas. i went to high/secondary school both in trinidad and england and we pronounce schedule with an sh, while in america they pronounce it with an "sch" like school.
i guess what i am trying to say in terms of grammar i am afraid that no one is wrong in this equation, neither you nor jack horner.
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A none graduate is now a minister.
2 more weeks of this.
And his sidekick Harrison, who couldn't hold down a job in England will have to look for work soon.
Wonder if he can spell the word transparency.
Surprise to see Stern John got bought. That academy sancho helping you with won your vote.
I can spell transparency. Sadly you can't even spell "non" as in non-graduate!
Actually old son, Sancho has an Associate degree in English and a B.Sc in Psychology .
Thankfully, I already have work so win or lose I'll survive.
But here's the thing, while Jack has his millions, guess what I can do? I can travel anywhere in the world that I like. Jack is even frightened to fly to Tobago. So who's the real joker?
FS didn't know you were an englishman mate, howdee. BTW in england we use the word "NON" before a word for instance "nonentity" or "nontraditional" which becomes one word, but when you separate the words like JH did (none graduate) then it's quite common and accepted grammar in the americas. i went to high/secondary school both in trinidad and england and we pronounce schedule with an sh, while in america they pronounce it with an "sch" like school.
i guess what i am trying to say in terms of grammar i am afraid that no one is wrong in this equation, neither you nor jack horner.
Trust me, Horner is always wrong and always will be!! I'm pretty sure there is no such phrase as none graduate , so I'm cool with non-graduate, which does exist!
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suit yourself.
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A none graduate is now a minister.
2 more weeks of this.
And his sidekick Harrison, who couldn't hold down a job in England will have to look for work soon.
Wonder if he can spell the word transparency.
Surprise to see Stern John got bought. That academy sancho helping you with won your vote.
I can spell transparency. Sadly you can't even spell "non" as in non-graduate!
Actually old son, Sancho has an Associate degree in English and a B.Sc in Psychology .
Thankfully, I already have work so win or lose I'll survive.
But here's the thing, while Jack has his millions, guess what I can do? I can travel anywhere in the world that I like. Jack is even frightened to fly to Tobago. So who's the real joker?
I realised that, all them Englishmen he keeps hiring.
And Psychology. :rotfl:
But yet, he is a minister of sports.
Kamla hired a Psychologist to be the minister of sports.
I dont her, she and her cabinet need all the mental help they can get.
But to be honest, a Associate degree in English.. What kind of job can you get with that?
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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A none graduate is now a minister.
2 more weeks of this.
And his sidekick Harrison, who couldn't hold down a job in England will have to look for work soon.
Wonder if he can spell the word transparency.
Surprise to see Stern John got bought. That academy sancho helping you with won your vote.
I can spell transparency. Sadly you can't even spell "non" as in non-graduate!
Actually old son, Sancho has an Associate degree in English and a B.Sc in Psychology .
Thankfully, I already have work so win or lose I'll survive.
But here's the thing, while Jack has his millions, guess what I can do? I can travel anywhere in the world that I like. Jack is even frightened to fly to Tobago. So who's the real joker?
I realised that, all them Englishmen he keeps hiring.
And Psychology. :rotfl:
But yet, he is a minister of sports.
Kamla hired a Psychologist to be the minister of sports.
I dont her, she and her cabinet need all the mental help they can get.
But to be honest, a Associate degree in English.. What kind of job can you get with that?
:rotfl: :rotfl:
Copy editing and checking for mistakes in printed material, which is positively a disqualifying factor for JW!
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Sport Ministry disappoints TTOC pres
T&T Guardian Reports.
President of the T&T Olympic Committee (TTOC) Brian Lewis has expressed disappointment after four national athletes employed by the Ministry of Sports were forced into taking no-pay leave when traveling to Toronto for the Pan American Games last month.
According to Lewis, the athletes’ short-term contracts did not make provisions for special leave. However, he noted it would be difficult for elite athletes to be given special treatment by their employers when the Ministry of Sport could not accommodate its own.
“I was very disquieted to be informed about this,” he said. “I think the fact that they were employed by the Ministry of Sport raises some fundamental questions. Where is the moral authority now to expect that corporate T&T and other employers will consider representing your country as national service. I’m not saying it as a criticism, I’m saying it as an observation and it’s an issue that needs to be dealt with upfront.”
Lewis stressed that the country needed to create an environment which would enable its athletes to reach their full potential.
“We still have a lot of work to do and the TTOC is really trying to deepen the whole athlete-centered approach,” he said. “If we really want to achieve ten or more Olympic medals by 2024, we need to ensure our athletes have what they need.”
Lewis did commend the Ministry for its new ‘Podium Push’ initiative, though he was awaiting clarification about whether it would affect existing programmes.
“We have to make sure it is aligned with our various programmes already in place,” he said. “I am a big supporter of our Elite Athletes Assistance Programme. Yes, it needs to be revamped and reviewed. It has been Cabinet-approved. It assures that the TTOC is part of the process which makes for better transparency and accountability, better fairness and equity.
“I think it is important therefore that whatever is coming up acts as a compliment and not a replacement for the EAAP. The reality is that we are in an environment where due to the drop in oil and gas revenue, the Ministry of Finance has called for belt tightening. If we are coming up with another programme, is it going to be at the expense of the EAAP? I think all these things need to be looked at.”
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Zoff calls on Sancho to pay promised prize monies.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).
Popular community sports administrator Roger “Zoff” Celestine is calling on former Minister of Sports Brent Sancho to honour a commitment to pay prize monies amounting to $70,000 for an all fours tournament held to boost his campaign for last year’s general elections.
Zoff who will celebrate 37 years as an organiser of sports and cultural events in the San Juan area tomorrow, said he was approached by the ex-T&T defender to put on cricket, football and all fours events in the name of the People’s Partnership Government last year. All three events carried a whopping $201,000 budget which were to be shared as prize monies.
He complied to a request by Sancho to submit proposals for a $50,000 football competition that comprised an open division, 40 and over play-off, an $81,000 cricket tourney that featured a 45 and over, men’s open and women’s league and an all fours competition for $70, 000.
He told the Guardian he has now found himself facing threats of lawsuits, while other teams and players are promising to expose him on the popular Ian Alleyne or Beyond the Tape programmes as Sancho no longer takes his calls or responds to his text messages.
The veteran administrator said he was told by Sancho that all his money was used during his campaign last year and he could not provide the additional funding to pay. From this amount, Zoff was not paid for the months of work he did in putting the tournaments together and ensuring it ran smoothly and successfully.
“During the tournaments I cooked food and had drinks organised but more so, was able to put on a number of successful competitions which carried the name The People’s Partnership Constituency League and impressed the then sports minister,” Zoff said.
His workload included putting up huge banners of the People’s Partnership contribution to community sports that also made him look good. Sancho has sinced paid the tag for the football ($50,000) tournament and was asked to give part payment for the cricket play-offs, which was drastically reduced due to the help of corporate citizens British Gas T&T, Neil Gosein and others where significant contributions came.
Through corporate T&T, Zoff was also able to distribute trophies and medals and accumulate other operating expenses such as tents and equipment etc. Sancho’s reluctance to pay the prize monies has left Zoff severely stressed as he collapsed during the final of the all fours tourney, citing concerns by players for monies owed to them, which the veteran administrator did not have.
“For the first time in my life I have had to be avoiding people and giving them promises for monies that were not forthcoming from Sancho. And on the night of the finals of the all fours, I took it on so much that I passed out and had to be carried home by friends and supporters of teams,” Zoff said.
When contacted yesterday, Sancho said he would have call back to give a response, but never did and further calls to his cellphone went unanswered.
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not to belittle the issues..but all my life I travelled to play Cricket, football and all fours at my expense and for my entertainment..buy meh own drinks, sometime even buy ah few for the other team even when we win the trophy..and today all this money floating and promising.. Boy, it's really a different world.
anyway, promises are to be fulfilled, no warnerisms cutting it anymore.
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Have not heard from FS or Sancho in a while.
FS, we miss you.
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They have more and very important thing to do. Right FS??!!
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Bes write up