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Title: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on August 04, 2015, 01:41:03 PM
As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on the T&T vs Haiti (http://www.espnfc.us/gamecast/statistics/id/439858/statistics.html) 2016 Copa America Centenario play-off game (5:30pm) on the 8th of January 2016 at the Estadio Rommel Fernandez in Panama will be posted here, this way, we can maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.

For the internet users, you can follow the game and chat with others:

SWO Chat Room (http://www.socawarriors.net/fanzone/interactive/chat.html).

Possible Online Streams.

http://www.tvmax-9.com/en_vivo/

http://www.rpctv.com/en_directo/RPC-TV-Linea_7_635106484.html

http://www.rpctv.com/en_directo/RPC-TV-Linea_7_635106484.html

http://www.tvmax-9.com/en_vivo/

http://somoslasele.com/
Click on EN VIVO.

Possible TV Station.

Univisión Deportes Network.

Trinidad & Tobago Squad

Goalkeepers:

Jan-Michael Williams (Central FC), Marvin Phillip (Morvant Caledonia United), Adrian Foncette (Police FC).

Defenders:

Daneil Cyrus (W Connection), Carlyle Mitchell (Seoul E-Land—South Korea), Radanfah Abu Bakr (HB Koge—Denmark), Yohance Marshall (Murcielagos FC—Mexico), Mekeil Williams (Antigua GFC—Guatemala), Aubrey David (Deportivo Saprissa—Costa Rica).

Midfielders:

Andre Boucaud (Dagenham & Redbridge—England), Khaleem Hyland (KV Westerlo—Belgium), Kevan George (Unattached), Neveal Hackshaw (North East Stars), Trevin Caesar (Austin Aztex—USA), Cordell Cato (San Jose Earthquakes—USA), Lester Peltier (Slovan Bratislava—Slovakia), Joevin Jones (Chicago Fire—USA), Jomal Williams (W Connection), Ataullah Guerra (Central FC).

Forwards:

Rundell Winchester (Portland Timbers II—USA), Jonathan Glenn (Breioablik—Iceland), Shahdon Winchester (W Connection).

Coach - Stephen Hart.

Haiti Squad

Goalkeepers

Steward Ceus (Atlanta Silverbacks—USA), Valendi Odelus (Aigle Noir AC—Haïti), Jaafson Origène (Don Bosco FC—Haïti).

Defenders

Méchack Jérome (Armada FC—USA), Frantz Bertin (Mumbai City FC—India), Judlin Aveska (Mohon Bagan—India), Stéphane Lambèse (PSG—France), Kim Jaggy (Aarau FC—Switzerland), Alex Christian Junior (FC Boavista—Portugal) Kevin Lafrance (Miedz Legnieca—Poland).

Midfielders

Sébastien Thurière (Charleston Battery—USA), Jean Marc Alexandre (Negeri Sembilan—Malaysia), Max Hilaire (Pau FC—France), Soni Mustivar (Sporting Kansas—USA), Constant Monuma (Don Bosco—Haïti), Sony Nordé (Mumbai City FC—India), Pascal Millien (Armada FC—USA), Junior Delva (Don Bosco FC—Haïti).

Forwards

Wedson Anselme (Aigle Noir AC—Haiti), Kervens Fils Belfort (1460 Trabzon Sport—Turkey), Jean Eudes Maurice (Ermis Aradippou—Cyprus), Woodensky M. Chèrenfant (Fica—Haiti).

Coach - Patrice Neveu.


Updates to follow as we get more info, so keep checking back.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game
Post by: truehaitian on August 04, 2015, 01:56:28 PM
THIS GAMES IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 9 IN NEW JERSEY ACCORDING TO HAITIAN MEDIA BUT IT LOOKS LIKE T&T IS SCHEDULED TO PLAY PANAMA ON OCTOBER 8. NOT POSSIBLE. CAN ANY ON SHED SOME LIGHTS ON THIS ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game
Post by: Controversial on August 04, 2015, 02:48:09 PM
THIS GAMES IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 9 IN NEW JERSEY ACCORDING TO HAITIAN MEDIA BUT IT LOOKS LIKE T&T IS SCHEDULED TO PLAY PANAMA ON OCTOBER 8. NOT POSSIBLE. CAN ANY ON SHED SOME LIGHTS ON THIS ?

Good question.. Because the only friendly that has been announced is Mexico.. So far the only person who knows about Panama and Bolivia is flex..

Right now everyone else is in the dark about that and TTFA continues its secrecy program where they are not revealing info to the public..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game
Post by: Flex on August 10, 2015, 05:28:24 AM
T&T, Haiti in two-leg playoff for ‘Copa’ spot.
By Ian Prescott (Express).


Trinidad and Tobago is likely to play Haiti on October 13 in the first of a two-leg playoff for a spot in the 2016 Copa America Centenario, which will be held next year in the United States.

The 16-nation Centenario is scheduled to run from June 3-26 and would include the ten South American national teams and six invited teams from CONCACAF, including the USA and Mexico.

Representing South America will be Brazil, Argentina, Bolivi, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Paraguay, Peru and Uruguay.

CONCACAF representatives so far are Mexico, USA, Costa Rica and Jamaica. Either Trinidad and Tobago or Haiti, and either of Panama or Cuba will fill the final two berths via two, two-leg playoff series.

Yesterday, Williams Wallace, manager of the Trinidad and Tobago senior team, disclosed that CONCACAF were seeking to schedule the first leg of the playoff with Haiti for one of the international friendly days in October.

Meanwhile, South America countries are eager to play the competition, despite an ongoing bribery investigation, their president Juan Angel Napout indicated. The 16-nation tournament was jeopardised when American prosecutors alleged massive bribery in international football, including a scheme linked to a US$112.5 million broadcasting deal for the one-off event to celebrate CONMEBOL’s 100th birthday.

“We wish that of course we can have the Copa Centenario as we wanted to, but I can’t say what CONCACAF wants,” Napout told The Associated Press on the sidelines of a CONMEBOL executive committee meeting.

Napout said he was “very optimistic” about talking with CONCACAF leaders after last month’s CONCACAF Gold Cup.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game
Post by: Sando prince on August 10, 2015, 01:20:02 PM


Very very important game and I hope the players and coaching staff understand what is as stake and approach the game with a very serious mindset
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game
Post by: dreamer on August 10, 2015, 01:39:59 PM
Big opportunity.
1. Best case scenario is that we beat Haiti in home and away and qualify for the Centennial and get top quality exposure for T&T teams and players, motivated to be on the shop window against some South American and Central American World Cup regulars.
2. Worst case scenarion is we lose the home and away, don't qualify for the series but get 2 games of high intensity desperate football, bringing out the best of our players as they try to prepare and get match fit (more than normal) for the all important World Cup qualifiers.
3. One may then ask: Should we negotiate to play Haiti early before the World Cup qualifier openers so that we are super ready for the same qualifiers but possibly risk injuries for World Cup qualifiers or .... should we play Haiti later to try and get better form for the Centenial and have less match practice in the early stages for the (Guatemala or Antigua) opener or USA 2nd game.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game
Post by: Flex on August 12, 2015, 02:17:21 AM
Since the winners of the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup (Mexico) have already qualified for the Copa América Centenario, a total of four teams will play in the qualifying play-offs.

The matchups for these two spots are:

Panama (Seed #1) vs Cuba (Seed #4)
Trinidad and Tobago (Seed #2) vs Haiti (Seed #3)

First leg

13 October 2015

Trinidad and Tobago v Haiti

Second leg

November 2015

Haiti v Trinidad and Tobago

2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup tournament ranking

Pld   W   D   L   GF   GA   GD   Pts - Qualification for Copa América Centenario
1. Mexico   6   4   2   0   16   6   +10   14 - Qualified prior to 2015 Gold Cup
2. Jamaica   6   4   1   1   8   6   +2   13 - 2014 Caribbean Cup winner
3. Panama   6   0   5   1   6   7   −1   5 - Play-offs
4. United States   6   3   2   1   12   5   +7   11 - Qualified prior to 2015 Gold Cup
5. Trinidad and Tobago   4   2   2   0   10   6   +4   8 - Play-offs
6. Haiti   4   1   1   2   2   3   −1   4 - Play-offs
7. Costa Rica   4   0   3   1   3   4   −1   3 - 2014 Copa Centroamericana winner
8. Cuba   4   1   0   3   1   14   −13   3 - Play-offs
9. El Salvador   3   0   2   1   1   2   −1   2   
10. Canada   3   0   2   1   0   1   −1   2
11. Honduras   3   0   1   2   2   4   −2   1
12. Guatemala   3   0   1   2   1   4   −3   1

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Controversial on August 12, 2015, 09:32:41 AM
Since the winners of the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup (Mexico) have already qualified for the Copa América Centenario, a total of four teams will play in the qualifying play-offs.

The matchups for these two spots are:

Panama (Seed #1) vs Cuba (Seed #4)
Trinidad and Tobago (Seed #2) vs Haiti (Seed #3)

First leg

13 October 2015

Trinidad and Tobago v Haiti

Second leg

November 2015

Haiti v Trinidad and Tobago

2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup tournament ranking

Pld   W   D   L   GF   GA   GD   Pts - Qualification for Copa América Centenario
1. Mexico   6   4   2   0   16   6   +10   14 - Qualified prior to 2015 Gold Cup
2. Jamaica   6   4   1   1   8   6   +2   13 - 2014 Caribbean Cup winner
3. Panama   6   0   5   1   6   7   −1   5 - Play-offs
4. United States   6   3   2   1   12   5   +7   11 - Qualified prior to 2015 Gold Cup
5. Trinidad and Tobago   4   2   2   0   10   6   +4   8 - Play-offs
6. Haiti   4   1   1   2   2   3   −1   4 - Play-offs
7. Costa Rica   4   0   3   1   3   4   −1   3 - 2014 Copa Centroamericana winner
8. Cuba   4   1   0   3   1   14   −13   3 - Play-offs
9. El Salvador   3   0   2   1   1   2   −1   2   
10. Canada   3   0   2   1   0   1   −1   2
11. Honduras   3   0   1   2   2   4   −2   1
12. Guatemala   3   0   1   2   1   4   −3   1



Thanks flex.. :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game
Post by: Banter Banton on August 12, 2015, 09:35:22 AM
Since the winners of the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup (Mexico) have already qualified for the Copa América Centenario, a total of four teams will play in the qualifying play-offs.

The matchups for these two spots are:

Panama (Seed #1) vs Cuba (Seed #4)
Trinidad and Tobago (Seed #2) vs Haiti (Seed #3)

First leg

13 October 2015

Trinidad and Tobago v Haiti

Second leg

November 2015

Haiti v Trinidad and Tobago

2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup tournament ranking

Pld   W   D   L   GF   GA   GD   Pts - Qualification for Copa América Centenario
1. Mexico   6   4   2   0   16   6   +10   14 - Qualified prior to 2015 Gold Cup
2. Jamaica   6   4   1   1   8   6   +2   13 - 2014 Caribbean Cup winner
3. Panama   6   0   5   1   6   7   −1   5 - Play-offs
4. United States   6   3   2   1   12   5   +7   11 - Qualified prior to 2015 Gold Cup
5. Trinidad and Tobago   4   2   2   0   10   6   +4   8 - Play-offs
6. Haiti   4   1   1   2   2   3   −1   4 - Play-offs
7. Costa Rica   4   0   3   1   3   4   −1   3 - 2014 Copa Centroamericana winner
8. Cuba   4   1   0   3   1   14   −13   3 - Play-offs
9. El Salvador   3   0   2   1   1   2   −1   2   
10. Canada   3   0   2   1   0   1   −1   2
11. Honduras   3   0   1   2   2   4   −2   1
12. Guatemala   3   0   1   2   1   4   −3   1

We can't play in November 2015... 2 World Cup qualifiers. It should really just be one game in October with us hosting as we finished higher than them. Makes sense. Same for Panama, they should host Cuba in a one off. Why is that so complicated Concacaf???
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: vb on August 12, 2015, 09:36:59 AM
THIS GAMES IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 9 IN NEW JERSEY ACCORDING TO HAITIAN MEDIA BUT IT LOOKS LIKE T&T IS SCHEDULED TO PLAY PANAMA ON OCTOBER 8. NOT POSSIBLE. CAN ANY ON SHED SOME LIGHTS ON THIS ?

Both games are being played in the US.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Sam on August 12, 2015, 09:38:55 AM
THIS GAMES IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 9 IN NEW JERSEY ACCORDING TO HAITIAN MEDIA BUT IT LOOKS LIKE T&T IS SCHEDULED TO PLAY PANAMA ON OCTOBER 8. NOT POSSIBLE. CAN ANY ON SHED SOME LIGHTS ON THIS ?

Both games are being played in the US.

No VB

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Sam on August 12, 2015, 09:39:23 AM
Since the winners of the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup (Mexico) have already qualified for the Copa América Centenario, a total of four teams will play in the qualifying play-offs.

The matchups for these two spots are:

Panama (Seed #1) vs Cuba (Seed #4)
Trinidad and Tobago (Seed #2) vs Haiti (Seed #3)

First leg

13 October 2015

Trinidad and Tobago v Haiti

Second leg

November 2015

Haiti v Trinidad and Tobago

2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup tournament ranking

Pld   W   D   L   GF   GA   GD   Pts - Qualification for Copa América Centenario
1. Mexico   6   4   2   0   16   6   +10   14 - Qualified prior to 2015 Gold Cup
2. Jamaica   6   4   1   1   8   6   +2   13 - 2014 Caribbean Cup winner
3. Panama   6   0   5   1   6   7   −1   5 - Play-offs
4. United States   6   3   2   1   12   5   +7   11 - Qualified prior to 2015 Gold Cup
5. Trinidad and Tobago   4   2   2   0   10   6   +4   8 - Play-offs
6. Haiti   4   1   1   2   2   3   −1   4 - Play-offs
7. Costa Rica   4   0   3   1   3   4   −1   3 - 2014 Copa Centroamericana winner
8. Cuba   4   1   0   3   1   14   −13   3 - Play-offs
9. El Salvador   3   0   2   1   1   2   −1   2   
10. Canada   3   0   2   1   0   1   −1   2
11. Honduras   3   0   1   2   2   4   −2   1
12. Guatemala   3   0   1   2   1   4   −3   1

We can't play in November 2015... 2 World Cup qualifiers. It should really just be one game in October with us hosting as we finished higher than them. Makes sense. Same for Panama, they should host Cuba in a one off. Why is that so complicated Concacaf???

Well, how much international dates we have in November?

A bunch of tuntun running Concacaf.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 12, 2015, 09:45:56 AM
Since the winners of the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup (Mexico) have already qualified for the Copa América Centenario, a total of four teams will play in the qualifying play-offs.

The matchups for these two spots are:

Panama (Seed #1) vs Cuba (Seed #4)
Trinidad and Tobago (Seed #2) vs Haiti (Seed #3)

First leg

13 October 2015

Trinidad and Tobago v Haiti

Second leg

November 2015

Haiti v Trinidad and Tobago

2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup tournament ranking

Pld   W   D   L   GF   GA   GD   Pts - Qualification for Copa América Centenario
1. Mexico   6   4   2   0   16   6   +10   14 - Qualified prior to 2015 Gold Cup
2. Jamaica   6   4   1   1   8   6   +2   13 - 2014 Caribbean Cup winner
3. Panama   6   0   5   1   6   7   −1   5 - Play-offs
4. United States   6   3   2   1   12   5   +7   11 - Qualified prior to 2015 Gold Cup
5. Trinidad and Tobago   4   2   2   0   10   6   +4   8 - Play-offs
6. Haiti   4   1   1   2   2   3   −1   4 - Play-offs
7. Costa Rica   4   0   3   1   3   4   −1   3 - 2014 Copa Centroamericana winner
8. Cuba   4   1   0   3   1   14   −13   3 - Play-offs
9. El Salvador   3   0   2   1   1   2   −1   2   
10. Canada   3   0   2   1   0   1   −1   2
11. Honduras   3   0   1   2   2   4   −2   1
12. Guatemala   3   0   1   2   1   4   −3   1

We can't play in November 2015... 2 World Cup qualifiers. It should really just be one game in October with us hosting as we finished higher than them. Makes sense. Same for Panama, they should host Cuba in a one off. Why is that so complicated Concacaf???

What would even make more sense is to grab the top finishers in the Gold cup. No need to drag the teams through another 2 leg series during wcq time. I remember reading that the 2 remaining spots were to go to the top finishers at the Gold cup who are not qualified for the Copa.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Controversial on August 12, 2015, 09:57:53 AM
Since the winners of the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup (Mexico) have already qualified for the Copa América Centenario, a total of four teams will play in the qualifying play-offs.

The matchups for these two spots are:

Panama (Seed #1) vs Cuba (Seed #4)
Trinidad and Tobago (Seed #2) vs Haiti (Seed #3)

First leg

13 October 2015

Trinidad and Tobago v Haiti

Second leg

November 2015

Haiti v Trinidad and Tobago

2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup tournament ranking

Pld   W   D   L   GF   GA   GD   Pts - Qualification for Copa América Centenario
1. Mexico   6   4   2   0   16   6   +10   14 - Qualified prior to 2015 Gold Cup
2. Jamaica   6   4   1   1   8   6   +2   13 - 2014 Caribbean Cup winner
3. Panama   6   0   5   1   6   7   −1   5 - Play-offs
4. United States   6   3   2   1   12   5   +7   11 - Qualified prior to 2015 Gold Cup
5. Trinidad and Tobago   4   2   2   0   10   6   +4   8 - Play-offs
6. Haiti   4   1   1   2   2   3   −1   4 - Play-offs
7. Costa Rica   4   0   3   1   3   4   −1   3 - 2014 Copa Centroamericana winner
8. Cuba   4   1   0   3   1   14   −13   3 - Play-offs
9. El Salvador   3   0   2   1   1   2   −1   2   
10. Canada   3   0   2   1   0   1   −1   2
11. Honduras   3   0   1   2   2   4   −2   1
12. Guatemala   3   0   1   2   1   4   −3   1

We can't play in November 2015... 2 World Cup qualifiers. It should really just be one game in October with us hosting as we finished higher than them. Makes sense. Same for Panama, they should host Cuba in a one off. Why is that so complicated Concacaf???

What would even make more sense is to grab the top finishers in the Gold cup. No need to drag the teams through another 2 leg series during wcq time. I remember reading that the 2 remaining spots were to go to the top finishers at the Gold cup who are not qualified for the Copa.



It would make perfect sense but we have to live with what we get... Just more prep for Hart... Even if he has to go with a mostly local team.. I think we can do it.. We have to make the best of it... Turn it into a positive
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: dreamer on August 12, 2015, 10:40:27 AM
That's where a big deep pool of qualified players comes in. If Yohance for example cyah geh release then use Carlysle Mitchell and so on.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: palos on August 12, 2015, 11:29:09 AM
We coulda avoid all dis drama if

1 - Players didn't feel dey had to strike on the eve of the Caribbean Cup final because of long standing f**kries between TTFA and de MOS

2 - We did win de Caribbean Cup

Ah well......de silver lining is...

We getting great prep for the WCQ matches beginning November 13
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Trini _2026 on August 12, 2015, 02:30:24 PM
hope hart takes these games serious
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: gawd on pitch on August 12, 2015, 02:55:13 PM
hope hart takes these games serious

I think he will. Copa Americano is a great opportunity for the players to get international exposure.

The two confederations are hoping that this tournament is a success. If it is a successful, there is a very strong chance it will be held every 4 years.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Controversial on August 12, 2015, 02:57:41 PM
hope hart takes these games serious

why wouldn't he take this seriously?? i don't understand what would give you that impression...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: ZANDOLIE on August 12, 2015, 10:11:50 PM
Is not Hart we have to worry about. Its whether the TTFA and the MoS can take this seriously enough to provide the conditions under which the team can perform to potential. 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Controversial on August 12, 2015, 10:16:39 PM
Is not Hart we have to worry about. Its whether the TTFA and the MoS can take this seriously enough to provide the conditions under which the team can perform to potential. 


 :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Flex on August 27, 2015, 03:44:35 AM
Copa America 2016 may not be in U.S., says CONMEBOL president Napout
ESPN STAFF


CONMEBOL president Juan Angel Napout is unsure if the 2016 edition of the Copa America will be played in the United States as planned.

In an interview with Paraguayan radio station AM 1080 on Wednesday, the chief of South America's football federation, while indicating the tournament would in fact be played, expressed uncertainty as to where it will be held.

"The 100th anniversary will have a celebration and this will be on the field. We want to have a Copa Centenario, it's on the FIFA calendar and the idea is for it to be played. Whether it will be in the United States? We have to wait for some things to happen, review some things," he said.

The CONMEBOL showpiece had been in doubt because of its connections to the FIFA corruption and bribery scandal that rocked the sport months ago. A U.S. Department of Justice indictment included allegations that more than $100 million in bribes were used to secure the rights to the tournament meant to celebrate the South American governing body's 100th birthday.

Napout said in July that he was "very optimistic" about talking with CONCACAF leaders about staging the event in the U.S., however Wednesday's admission cast further doubt on the prospect of a stateside staging.

The 16-nation Centenario is scheduled June 3-26 and would include the 10 South American national teams and six invited teams from CONCACAF, including the U.S. and Mexico.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Sando prince on August 27, 2015, 05:05:40 PM
^^ Hmm hopefully its is well organized and well marketed to bring out huge crowds wherever it is hosted
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Controversial on August 27, 2015, 05:36:48 PM
doesn't matter where it is held... as long as TT make it in and get the prep for wcq
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Sam on September 09, 2015, 10:53:18 AM
Both games playing in October now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Am%C3%A9rica_Centenario_qualifying_play-offs

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Sando prince on September 11, 2015, 07:49:38 PM

Very Very important games and a lot is at stake for these games against Haiti
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Flex on September 13, 2015, 07:18:44 AM
CONCACAF has scrapped the playoff idea (for now). There is a chance we may play another team.

Stay tuned for further updates.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: gawd on pitch on September 13, 2015, 07:23:45 AM
CONCACAF has scrapped the playoff idea (for now). There is a chance we may play another team.

Stay tuned for further updates.



I not surprised. I thought the original plan was to give the top finishers the remaining spots for Copa 2016. It wouldn't have been fair to drag the teams through another 2 leg qualifier. My guess is they will give the two remaining spots to TT and Panama..

Do you have a source Flex?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Flex on September 13, 2015, 07:29:45 AM
CONCACAF has scrapped the playoff idea (for now). There is a chance we may play another team.

Stay tuned for further updates.



I not surprised. I thought the original plan was to give the top finishers the remaining spots for Copa 2016. It wouldn't have been fair to drag the teams through another 2 leg qualifier. My guess is they will give the two remaining spots to TT and Panama..

Do you have a source Flex?

Source does not want to be revealed...

The Copa America is in a mess. South American countries don't want the tournament in the US fearing officials will be arrested so the tournament is up in the air.

We'll see.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: gawd on pitch on September 13, 2015, 11:18:56 AM
CONCACAF has scrapped the playoff idea (for now). There is a chance we may play another team.

Stay tuned for further updates.



I not surprised. I thought the original plan was to give the top finishers the remaining spots for Copa 2016. It wouldn't have been fair to drag the teams through another 2 leg qualifier. My guess is they will give the two remaining spots to TT and Panama..

Do you have a source Flex?

Source does not want to be revealed...

The Copa America is in a mess. South American countries don't want the tournament in the US fearing officials will be arrested so the tournament is up in the air.

We'll see.



Got it.

That's even more of a reason to cancel the playoffs. Since the tournament is up in the air, it will make more sense to just choose TT and Panama as the top finishers of the unqualified teams. That way if the tournament is cancelled, then no one can complain about the resources spent to qualify for a tournament that is not going to take place.

I think in the end the tournament will take place in America once the Conmebol officials could get some assurance that they won't be arrested.

From what I heard, if Copa is a success Concacaf and Conmebol will want this tournament played every 4 years. The idea is to rival the Euros and create another revenue stream for Concacaf and Conmebol.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: gawd on pitch on September 13, 2015, 02:14:08 PM
According to Mls.com the top ranked teams from the Gold cup were supposed qualify directly for Copa Americano Centenario.

http://m.mlssoccer.com/goldcup/2015/news/article/2015/03/10/gold-cup-final-two-copa-america-spots-be-handed-out

I wouldn't be surprised if Concacaf reverts to choosing the highest ranked Gold cup teams for the final two spots. This was the original plan.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: gawd on pitch on September 17, 2015, 09:51:21 AM
I just read that the USA soccer officials skipped today's Copa America meeting in Mexico. Some are saying that the USA's absence is a sign the the USA will not be hosting the tournament, hence they MIGHT NOT be participating in the Copa 2016. There is also talk that the tournament might be scaled down to 12 teams. This explains why there isn't any dates for the qualifiers.

In the end the tournament will be taking place. The question is whether or not it will be held in America, Mexico or South America. If it is held in Mexico, I don't think the tournament will be scaled down from 16 to 12 teams. However if it is held in South America, there is a likelihood that the tournament will be scaled down to 12 teams. We will have a better idea at the end of the day where it will be held.

If America pulls out, and Mexico hosts the event, my guess is that Panama will replace America, TT will play Cuba and Haiti will play El Salvador for the remaining spots. Another scenario could be, Panama play Canada, TT play El Salvador and Haiti play Cuba. Just speculating.. So we will see what happens today.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: gawd on pitch on September 17, 2015, 02:08:27 PM
Many sources are saying that the USA will not be hosting Copa America 2016. They might not even participate in it.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/17/sports/soccer/copa-americas-fate-uncertain-as-us-soccer-skips-meeting.html?referrer=
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: gawd on pitch on September 17, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
Now they are saying that the tournament is still on in the USA. It's official that the tournament will take place next year with the hosts being USA. This article was published today after the Concacaf and Conmebol meeting.

http://www.starsandstripesfc.com/copa-america-2016-centenario/2015/9/17/9347295/copa-america-centenario-host-us-soccer
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: ON DE BLOCK on September 17, 2015, 03:23:02 PM
and the whole world was corrupt, copa America too... more corruption than fifa and uefa combined,
Interpol about to kick down some doors and make some arrest, ttfa was not mentioned but other concacaf heads have already been contacted...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Flex on September 18, 2015, 07:17:08 AM
Copa America Centenario in United States still a possibility - CONCACAF
BY JEFF CARLISLE (ESPN)


Hope remains to hold the Copa America Centenario in the United States next summer, according to a CONCACAF spokesman.

Leaders of CONMEBOL and CONCACAF, as well as CONCACAF's television partners, Televisa and Univision, met in Mexico City on Thursday in a bid to kick-start an organizing process that has run aground in recent months.

"The meeting was very positive and we emerged from the meeting with the common goal of holding the Copa America Centenario in the United States," said CONCACAF spokesman Jurgen Mainka via telephone.

The U.S. Soccer Federation did not have a representative in attendance but a USSF spokesman said that the federation's leadership already had a meeting scheduled for Thursday.

In May, the indictments of 14 soccer and marketing executives revealed corruption surrounding the organizing of the Copa America Centenario. Since then, U.S. Soccer, which had been selected by CONMEBOL to host the expanded version of the Copa America, has sought assurances that the companies involved were above board and that there was total transparency with regard to the commercial and television rights of the tournament.

U.S. Soccer hasn't been able to receive those assurances to its satisfaction and may withdraw from hosting the tournament as a result.

With each passing day, the likelihood that the tournament would be held has lessened, since the U.S. promoters in line to book stadiums for the tournament are starting to look elsewhere in order to fill their venues with other events. On Wednesday, a source familiar with the situation confirmed the lengthening odds.

While Mainka said that progress was made during the meeting, he did note that some challenges remain.

"We know that there is an aggressive timeline with respect to the operations of the tournament that needs to be hosted," he said. "We are well aware of that. We're also aware that there are a couple of more steps that need to be taken to put this tournament together. What's important is that we have alignment with these four entities."

Mainka declined to elaborate on what those steps are, but a source with knowledge of the situation indicated that the major sticking point surrounds Datisa, an Argentina-based marketing company that owns the commercial rights to the Copa America Centenario, and was implicated in the FIFA scandal to the extent that its accounts have been frozen by U.S. investigators.

Datisa was formed as a joint venture that included Traffic Sports, Full Play and another Argentine company, Torneos y Competencias. Datisa acquired the rights to the 2015, 2016, 2019, and 2013 Copa Americas for $318 million. Datisa later acquired CONCACAF's share of the commercial rights to the Copa America Centenario as well.

If CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, Televisa and Univision can somehow obtain those rights from Datisa, then the odds of the tournament being held in the U.S. go up considerably. A complicating factor however is that Datisa had already sold some of the commercial rights to third parties, a group that includes Televisa.

Mainka also said in a news conference on Thursday: "We are still aligned with a common goal of holding the Copa América Centenario in the U.S. on the dates previously planned. There are several steps that must be taken but our alignment is very clear and we are working toward this goal."

Copa America is normally held every four years, with the latest edition having been held last June in Chile. This edition is designed to celebrate the 100-year anniversary of the formation of COMNEBOL, and was set to include six nations from CONCACAF in addition to the 10 countries that comprise COMNEBOL.

Last week, CONCACAF had issued a statement in which it alluded to the ongoing concerns of both the confederation and U.S. Soccer.

"We are continuing to work with CONMEBOL, the U.S. Soccer Federation and all other stakeholders on hosting the Copa America Centenario tournament in the United States," the statement read. "CONCACAF is committed to continue working with all parties to address the operational, format and financial issues relating to the tournament in order to ensure greater transparency to this event. We are hopeful that the meeting on Thursday in Mexico City will lead to progress on these issues."

On Wednesday, a source with knowledge of the ongoing conversations had said that the U.S. chances of hosting were dwindling before Thursday's meeting in Mexico City. The U.S. national team currently has no games scheduled for the summer months in 2016.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: gawd on pitch on October 15, 2015, 09:44:00 PM
Looks like we should get a date of the playoff soon. Concacaf and the tournament stakeholders resolved the problem regarding the marketing company. So the tournament is on in the USA.

 http://www.espnfc.us/copa-america/story/2664857/copa-america-centenario-set-to-go-ahead-in-us-sources
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: dreamer on October 16, 2015, 06:25:31 AM
Good stuff Gop.
The politics of whether T&T competes or not is well beyond our hands
but it can be said that our recent good Gold Cup performances and stellar game ratings of the Mexico clashes
and recent defeat of Panama could make us a marketing desirable and this certainly does not hurt our chances of folks lobbying for our inclusion by a fair playoff qualification series.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: gawd on pitch on October 16, 2015, 10:19:57 AM
Np Dreamer. I hope Concacaf and Conmebol decide to go with the initial plan i.e. Take the top ranked teams from the Gold cup as qualifiers for the Copa. The last thing we need is another 2 leg qualifier during WCQ campaign.

Considering that the end of the year is upon us, the FIFA windows for international games are occupied by WCQ,  and the federations need enough time to properly market the tournament, it would be wise to give the spots to TT and Panama.. They definitely earned it.

Like you said Dreamer, the Gold cup performances coupled with the recent results, makes us much more marketable than Haiti. Conmebol is aware of what we can do. And if they had to choose between TT and Haiti, reason and logic would say choose TT.

Let's wait and see if a playoff date is set. My guess is if we don't have a  playoff date before the end of the year,  Concacaf and Conmebol will go with Panama and TT.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: pull stones on October 16, 2015, 05:12:29 PM
if we can't beat haiti convincingly home and away, then we don't deserve to be in the competition.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Flex on October 24, 2015, 06:48:54 AM
Copa America Centenario will be held in United States next summer
ESPN STAFF


CONCACAF, CONMEBOL and the U.S. Soccer Federation announced Friday that plans to hold the Copa America Centenario in the United States during the summer of 2016 will proceed as originally planned.

The announcement concludes a tortuous process in which the holding of the tournament had been in doubt ever since 14 soccer administrators and marketing executives were arrested back in May on corruption charges.

The investigation that led to those arrests uncovered $110 million in bribes that had been paid by sports marketing company Datisa, which owned the commercial rights to the Copa America Centenario.

Sources indicated that the USSF had refused to go forward with the tournament unless complete transparency could be ensured by CONMEBOL and CONCACAF, which included the removal of Datisa from any aspect of the tournament.

One sticking point included having Datisa return the money it received for selling those rights to third parties, including Mexican multimedia company Televisa. That proved tricky, as Datisa's assets had been frozen by the Department of Justice.

Last week, CONCACAF announced that it had reacquired its marketing rights for the tournament from Datisa, thus smoothing the way for the tournament to be held.

CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, and the USSF also announced the formation of a new executive committee to govern the event. It will be comprised of five members, two from CONMEBOL, two from CONCACAF, and one from the USSF. The intent is to provide even greater financial transparency regarding funds collected for broadcasting and sponsorships.

The 16-nation tournament, to be played from June 3-26, 2016, will feature all 10 national teams from South America and six from CONCACAF, including the United States, Mexico, Costa Rica and Jamaica.

The areas that expressed interest to host were Atlanta; Baltimore; Boston; Chicago; Cleveland; Dallas; Denver; Detroit; Houston; Indianapolis; Jacksonville, Florida; Kansas City, Missouri; Los Angeles; Nashville, Tennessee; New York/New Jersey; Orlando, Florida; Philadelphia; Phoenix; St. Louis; San Diego; San Francisco; Seattle; Tampa, Florida; and Washington, D.C.

Organizers are in the process of selecting from the list of host cities and venues. However, sources told ESPN that the final will be played at the Rose Bowl, in Pasadena, California, and one of the semifinals will be held at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey.

In a joint statement, CONCACAF and CONMEBOL said: "We are extremely happy for our fans, our teams and our partners, that we were able to find a way to host the Copa America Centenario celebration in the United States under an entirely new structure for managing the tournament's operations and finances. The improved governance structure will bring greater accountability and transparency to the event so it can serve its two intended purposes - to celebrate the 100 years of history of Copa America, and provide a once in a lifetime spectacle for fans in the CONCACAF and CONMEBOL regions."

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: trini_stallion on October 24, 2015, 12:57:05 PM
So no Trinidad or Haiti?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: andre samuel on October 24, 2015, 03:00:29 PM
So no Trinidad or Haiti?

You read the article and that is what u thought to ask?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: de_redman on October 24, 2015, 03:29:56 PM
So no Trinidad or Haiti?

You read the article and that is what u thought to ask?
Yeah. Comprehension is a hell of a thing. Smh.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: trini_stallion on October 24, 2015, 04:17:25 PM
So no Trinidad or Haiti?

You read the article and that is what u thought to ask?
So no Trinidad or Haiti?

You read the article and that is what u thought to ask?
Yeah. Comprehension is a hell of a thing. Smh.

Sorry nah both of you geni-asses ...i asked a question...not to get no dotish answer...I accidentally overlooked something...so shake yuh head til it fall off! Comprehend that
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Sando prince on October 28, 2015, 09:43:28 PM
I rather T&T play Haiti in a one game confrontation on neutral territory instead of a two game home and away.
Title: Trinidad and Tobago to face Haiti on January 8th
Post by: Tallman on October 29, 2015, 12:49:44 PM
Trinidad and Tobago to face Haiti on January 8th for Copa América Centenario berth
CONCACAF.com


The Confederation of North, Central America and Caribbean Association Football (CONCACAF) today announced details of the two play-in matches for the final two berths in the historic Copa America Centenario, to be played in the United States from June 3-26, 2016.
 
Two matchups – Panama vs. Cuba and Trinidad & Tobago vs. Haiti – will be played as a double header on Friday, January 8 2016, at the Estadio Rommel Fernandez in Panama City, Panama. The winner of each match will advance to the Copa America Centenario. Exact kickoff times will be announced shortly.
 
CONCACAF will have six representatives in the 2016 Copa America Centenario, hosted in the United States and marking the first time the South American championship has been played outside that continent. CONCACAF Gold Cup champion Mexico, 2013 Gold Cup champion and host United States, reigning Central American Cup champion Costa Rica and Caribbean Cup Champion Jamaica have already secured their places in the event.

The four playoff contenders set to compete in Panama earned their places in the play-in matches by virtue of their performances at the 2015 Gold Cup. Cuba, Haiti, Panama and Trinidad & Tobago were all quarterfinalists. Panama earned the right to host the play-in event as the best finisher of the group, advancing to the semifinals and eventually finishing in third place.

The U.S.-hosted Copa America Centenario was originally announced in May 2014, when it was determined the reigning UNCAF and CFU champion, as well as Mexico and the United States, would represent the CONCACAF region, along with two additional teams to be determined via play in matches after a ranking of the best finishers from the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup. That procedure was confirmed last week, along with the final details of the Copa America Centenario in the United States.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: FireBrand on October 29, 2015, 02:11:50 PM
Jan 8 is not a FIFA international match date. That could be problematic
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: soccerman on October 29, 2015, 02:14:54 PM
I rather T&T play Haiti in a one game confrontation on neutral territory instead of a two game home and away.
You got your wish!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Tallman on October 29, 2015, 02:26:45 PM
Jan 8 is not a FIFA international match date. That could be problematic

Should be fine. Kenwyne wouldn't miss any matches for Cardiff. The other UK-based will miss at most one club match. Most of the other foreign-based will be either on winter break or in their off-season.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Games
Post by: Peong on October 29, 2015, 02:57:48 PM
This will be intense!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on October 30, 2015, 09:27:22 PM
I'm glad about the 1 game playoff at a neutral location. A 2 leg home and away playoff wouldn't have made much sense.

The two wcq games before this fixture will be good preparation.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: trini_stallion on October 30, 2015, 09:52:30 PM
Very happy about the neutral location and 1 game, only concern is that would our full contingent of players be available? Haiti have always proved to be a challenging opposition!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on November 19, 2015, 03:31:43 AM
Soca Warriors target Haiti next
By Ian Prescott (Express).


Trinidad and Tobago’s men’s senior national football team, the Soca Warriors, will regroup on Boxing Day to prepare for their Copa America Centario playoff in Panama City against Haiti in just under two months from now.

With no official FIFA international match dates for the next four months, the COPA playoffs is an assignment the Soca Warriors head coach relishes. The January 8 playoff gives T&T a chance to face possibly the likes of Brazil and Argentina and valuable matches against quality opponents.

The qualifier itself also serves as a good warm-up for T&T’s next World Cup assignments, home and away matches to St Vincent and the Grenadines on March 25 and 29, 2016. Hart thinks the Haiti clash is ideal preparation for the “Vincey Heat”.

“We have the game in January which is healthy for us,” Hart said following T&T’s goalless draw with the United States on Tuesday.

“We have the game in January, which is a tricky fixture because of course its not a FIFA date,” Hart continued.

“We intend to start (preparing) on Boxing Day and have camp and maybe get a game against a select Pro League team or something of that nature, and go into the Haiti game.”

Hart will likely have available his MLS players Joevin Jones, Daneil Cyrus, Cordell Cato and Kevan Gibbes, since their MLS season ends in December. Hart will also likely have available Sheldon Bateau, Khalem Hyland, Radanfah Abu Bakr and Lester Peltier, who play in European leagues with winter breaks.

“With the winter break, if I could work it out with the clubs, I wouldn’t mind playing in January and then again in February,” Hart said. However, Hart may be forced to find replacements for Britain-based Andre Boucard, Jonathan Glen, Justin Hoyte and skipper Kenwyne Jones, since their leagues have no winter break. Cardiff City striker Jones is asking his Soca Warriors teammates to do all possible to get the team qualified for the Copa Centario.

“Keep the flag flying,” Jones said.

“Push us on to try and to be in that competition in June. It will be good experience for us and also good experience for them, because you do not know who will be in the squad at that time.”

Jones confirmed that he is almost certain to miss the Haiti playoff, given his important role with Cardiff City, a Welsh club playing in the English Championship Division.

“Probably on that weekend I will have a club game,” Jones lamented.

“It is not a FIFA period. The (CONCACAF) organisation was a bit funny in organising the game in that period, when we had so many FIFA windows (open) to play it in.”

The Soca Warriors are vying for one of the final two spots in the prestigious Copa America Centenario, a 16-team tournament which marks the 100-year anniversary of the South American Football Championship.

Featuring four of the top-10 ranked football teams in the world--Argentina (#3), Chile (#5), Colombia (#7) and five-time World Cup champions Brazil --the event will be held from June 3-26 in venues across the United States.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on November 19, 2015, 07:38:00 AM
 Hart may be forced to find replacements for Britain-based Andre Boucard, Jonathan Glen, Justin Hoyte and skipper Kenwyne Jones

I did not know Johnathan is playing is Britain.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Sam on November 19, 2015, 08:40:03 AM
Hart will likely have available his MLS players Joevin Jones, Daneil Cyrus, Cordell Cato and Kevan Gibbes, since their MLS season ends in December. Hart will also likely have available Sheldon Bateau, Khalem Hyland, Radanfah Abu Bakr and Lester Peltier, who play in European leagues with winter breaks.

Kevan Gibbes...

Who de f00ck is that?

And Deeks, look how he spell Boucaud and Khaleem.....

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Prescott have to be a dunce.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: pull stones on November 19, 2015, 11:12:01 AM
the problem is, would hahiti have it's full compliments of foreign based like jean louis and the other league one players. hopefully aubrey david and mikiel williams will be available, then we really don't need the english based, even though J.glen would have been a nice addition, but all the same we have ball past and guerra to fall back on.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Banter Banton on November 19, 2015, 11:49:42 AM
Who will really be in season? Off the top of my head Kenywne, Boucaud, Hoyte brothers.

We will have Jan, Marvin, Cyrus, Marshall, Abu Bakr, Bateau, Mitchell? M.Williams, Aubrey? Peltier, Cato, Joevin Jones, Rundell Winchester, George, Hyland, Hackshaw, Cummings, Guerra, Ceaser? Glenn, Plaza.

CM department weakened without Boucaud but good chance for a local based CM to get into the squad
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: dreamer on November 19, 2015, 12:34:52 PM
Good data Banton. Time for Guerra to step up, train like a beast, be hongry and demand selection on merit at the time.
Chance for Mitchell and Yohance to get a taste. Time for Plaza to buss de net.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on November 19, 2015, 01:36:51 PM
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/2016-copa-america-centenario-host-stadiums-revealed-new-york-los-angeles-chicago-111915 (http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/2016-copa-america-centenario-host-stadiums-revealed-new-york-los-angeles-chicago-111915)

By Kyle McCarthy FOX Soccer
Nov 19, 2015 at 11:30a ET
Ten cities will host Copa América Centenario matches next summer, CONCACAF and CONMEBOL revealed on Thursday.
The list includes the historic Rose Bowl in Pasadena, Calif. and MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J. Both venues are strong contenders to stage important matches during the tournament.

Tournament organizers also placed matches at other venues across the United States, including CenturyLink Field (Seattle), Gillette Stadium (Foxborough, Mass.), Lincoln Financial Field (Philadelphia), Levi’s Stadium (Santa Clara, Calif.), NRGi Stadium (Houston), Orlando Citrus Bowl Stadium (Orlando), Soldier Field (Chicago), University of Phoenix Stadium (Glendale, Ariz.).

Each stadium is expected to host matches on multiple days during the tournament (June 3-26) and most of them will stage at least three matches, according to a CONCACAF release.

“These 10 cities and venues will provide a fantastic setting for fans across the world to attend Copa America Centenario and allow them to see the amazing passion for soccer in the United States,” U.S. Soccer president Sunil Gulati said in a statement. “The participating teams and fans will be treated to a first-class environment in each city and stadium, adding to the world-class talent that will be competing on the field. We are looking forward to working closely with all of the cities and venues in hosting this prestigious event and creating an extraordinary experience for fans.”

Twenty-four cities expressed initial interest in hosting matches earlier this year. The Copa America Local Organizing Committee sifted through those proposals and selected the final 10 venues. The process eventually culled several major metropolitan areas -- including Atlanta, Dallas and Washington, D.C. -- before reaching the final list.

Tournament organizers are expected to lay down temporary grass at several venues in order to make them suitable for the Copa América, including CenturyLink Field and Gillette Stadium.
U.S. Soccer reached an agreement with CONCACAF and CONMEBOL last month to host the one-off tournament to celebrate the 100th anniversary of Copa América next summer. The fate of the tournament hung in the balance after U.S. Department of Justice officials indicted several CONCACAF and CONMEBOL executives earlier this year. U.S. Soccer officials received assurances about the marketing contracts and the governance structures for the tournament before moving forward as hosts.

Sixteen teams -- including all 10 CONMEBOL teams and six CONCACAF representatives -- will compete in the tournament. United States, Mexico, Costa Rica and Jamaica have already qualified from CONCACAF, while a pair of playoffs -- Trinidad and Tobago vs. Haiti and Panama vs. Cuba -- will determine the final two berths.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on November 19, 2015, 01:43:13 PM
Ticketing info request: http://ca2016.com/
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on November 19, 2015, 03:38:48 PM
The host metropolitan areas and respective stadiums are: Boston (Gillette Stadium), Chicago (Soldier Field), Houston (NRG Stadium), Los Angeles (Rose Bowl), New York (MetLife Stadium), Orlando (Orlando Citrus Bowl Stadium), Philadelphia (Lincoln Financial Field), Phoenix (University of Phoenix Stadium), San Francisco (Levi's Stadium) and Seattle (CenturyLink Field). Similar to the FIFA World Cup, each venue will host matches on multiple days through the tournament. Most venues will host at least three games.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on November 25, 2015, 10:17:56 AM

This game is very important because of what is at stake. T&T should approach this game as if it is a World Cup qualifier or the final of a tournament.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: dreamer on November 30, 2015, 09:10:17 PM
Copa America Centenario 2016
https://www.youtube.com/v/exj2RH9etg4

Warriors get ready!
Title: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Tallman on December 10, 2015, 03:46:16 PM
T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Kenwyne Jones Media


Captain of the Trinidad and Tobago Men's Senior Football Team, Kenwyne Jones, has indicated that the entire Trinidad and Tobago Senior Men's National squad has opted out of their next international match against Haiti for the highly-anticipated CONCACAF Game. The team was carded to participate in the Copa América Centenario Berth match, scheduled for January 8th 2016, at the Estadio Rommel Fernandez in Panama City, Panama.

Speaking on behalf of his distressed teammates, Jones explains that the reason is due to the outstanding disbursement of monies to the Warriors squad from the Trinidad & Tobago Football Association. "We were promised months ago that a payment would be made to the boys after the last game (the World Cup Qualifier against USA in November). To date, unfortunately that arrangement has not been honoured, and based on recent discussions with the TTFA, there is no indication as to when these financial matters will be settled."

The captain cites the decision as an unfortunate development on all fronts, as the players have consistently sacrificed their personal and professional schedules to produce commendable performances over the last two years with limited resources. "Of course, we want to play. We want to represent our country to the best of our abilities. We have a talented squad that is eager to give their all. But this is also our livelihood. The conditions must change for our national athletes."

He and the squad continue to be overwhelmed by the ongoing support from fans, particularly at the last two World Cup qualifying matches against Guatemala and the USA respectively. "The support that we've seen from supporters has only made the decision not to play even more difficult and disappointing for the team."

Jones, along with the T&T Senior Men's National team, is hopeful that a resolution is swift and forthcoming. "Above all else, we never want to disappoint our fans, and we hope that they understand our decision."
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: andre samuel on December 10, 2015, 03:49:58 PM
Never a dull moment in Trinidad and Tobago Football.

I am glad that the players are taking a stand, and i fully expect newly elected President David J Williams to treat this matter with the utmost importance.

ah love it!!
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: frico on December 10, 2015, 03:57:15 PM
Why does this f**king crap always happen,JW gone,this one gone,that one tek over...still de same shit.
Lord have bloody mercy![/b]
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: palos on December 10, 2015, 03:58:25 PM
Never a dull moment in Trinidad and Tobago Football.

I am glad that the players are taking a stand, and i fully expect newly elected President David J Williams to treat this matter with the utmost importance.

ah love it!!

Look out for W Connection masquerading as T&T at this tournament.  2 birds with one stone.....Shahdon Winchester gets to be on de National team and Stuart Charles returns as National team coach  :)

Watch de proceedings
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: andre samuel on December 10, 2015, 04:04:17 PM


Look out for W Connection masquerading as T&T at this tournament.  2 birds with one stone.....Shahdon Winchester gets to be on de National team and Stuart Charles returns as National team coach  :)

Watch de proceedings

I'm done with Trinidad and Tobago football if that happens
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: dreamer on December 10, 2015, 04:18:25 PM
Unless all the ball pyongs feel collective pain, disappointment and pass it onto Mr cover-up-Fuentes, then the TTFA, then nothing will be done
Unless Sam start cussin' and losing his mind and gentlemanly Deeks jumps into the fray, as a barometer of massive fan disappointment then nothing will change. At least DJW will listen and ask for help as opposed to Uncle Tim who would have said 4k
The leeches who planned to benefit from travel agency, marketing their products in USA, telev rights, media sales had we participated would now say "Shite! How allyuh could do we dat? How can we lobby for a resolution by the stakeholders?"
Correct move by KJ. No fairness, 4k de football. Seriously. Hard luck for Flex, Tallman, Tony Harford, Field of Dreams, Scoreboard and all other well intentioned contributors. Collective pain must be felt.
T&T must learn to grow up and value human resources. If not face painful consequences.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Sam on December 10, 2015, 04:20:31 PM
What a f00cking shame.

Tim Kee left we like how Jack Warner left we.

And now John Williams will not mind because W Connection go end up playing Haiti, better for him.

Jones boy, I eh blame yuh.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: gawd on pitch on December 10, 2015, 04:27:22 PM
Good opportunity for the newly elected to show what he is capable of doing. A resolution will be swift and forthcoming. We will play the game with the team we have grown to love in recent months.

KJ wants to ensure that the time he spends away from Cardiff will be worth it for him. This might be a sign that Cardiff has given KJ the go ahead to play in the Copa playoff.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Flex on December 10, 2015, 04:40:34 PM
The TTFA made 1.2 million dollars profit from the Women's game when he played Ecuador and tickets were just $100.00 TTD each.

When the men team played USA last month we had a sold out stadium at higher priced tickets.

My question is.

Where did the money go from the USA game?

300 covered stands and 150 uncovered, do the math.

I am sure DJW will work on this right away.

Give him some time, even though it should not have reached this stage.

Didn't the government put aside millions for sports? or is all going for the olympic team?

Darryl Smith need to wake up.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Sando prince on December 10, 2015, 04:53:29 PM
I dont understand. The TTFA cannot complain they don't have enough money to pay players. The Ministry of Sport has allocated millions towards sport and footballl, national games for both men and women teams have been sold out. Why can't we just be professional and do what s right? steupse  >:(
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Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: SWF Reporter on December 10, 2015, 05:03:20 PM
Pay or no play! Soca Warriors threaten strike for Copa America play off
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868)

The Trinidad and Tobago National Senior Team have delivered a stark, public message to the new administration of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA): Pay or we won’t play!
In a press release, delivered by national captain Kenwyne Jones’ publicist, Tenille Clarke, the “Soca Warriors” have threatened to withdraw their services for next month’s Copa América Centenario Play Off against Haiti unless the TTFA satisfies its debt to the players.
Trinidad and Tobago are due to face Haiti on 8 January 2016 at the Estadio Rommel Fernandez in Panama City, Panama with the winner advancing to the 2016 Copa América competition.
However, the Warriors are still owed match fees for last month’s Russia 2018 World Cup qualifiers against Guatemala and the United States and for a friendly against Nicaragua in October.
Jones, who said he was speaking on behalf of his “distressed teammates”, said it was a collective stance.
“We were promised months ago that a payment would be made to the boys after the last game (against the United States on November 17),” said Jones, via press release. “To date, unfortunately that arrangement has not been honoured, and based on recent discussions with the TTFA, there is no indication as to when these financial matters will be settled.”
The stance is a significant broadside to new TTFA president David John-Williams, who was only elected on 29 November 2015.
Williams, who relinquished his role as W Connection president after the elections, was the employer of two national senior team players—Daneil Cyrus and Mekeil Williams, who are both out on loan—up until a month ago. And another five Warriors including the national captain are former Connection players.
His history with the national players now appears unlikely to be an asset during his presidency.
Williams countered that Jones has not contacted him since he became TTFA president  and the debt to the players is an inherited issue, which, after less than two weeks on the job, he is still coming to grips with.
Former TTFA president Raymond Tim Kee, who is also the Port of Spain mayor and PNM treasurer, and his estranged general secretary Sheldon Phillips oversaw the deal with the Warriors. But, although there were over 20,000 spectators at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, the TTFA did not honour its arrangement with the Warriors.
Phillips was fired before the United States match and was replaced by acting general secretary Paula Chester-Cumberbatch.
Read more: http://wired868.com/2015/12/10/pay-or-no-play-soca-warriors-threaten-strike-for-copa-america-play-off/
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Deeks on December 10, 2015, 05:29:41 PM
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

But I understand their plight. John-Williams knew what he was getting into. He needs to use his "influence" to straighten out this long lasting comesse. NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Bakes on December 10, 2015, 05:37:07 PM
Incredibly hasty.  Match was three weeks ago, money ent yet finish counting and already the players bawling "strike."  Man ent even spend a good night in the marital bed and honeymoon over yes, lol.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Big Magician on December 10, 2015, 05:37:55 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=452510521466460&set=pb.100001225493088.-2207520000.1449790193.&type=3&theater
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: FF on December 10, 2015, 05:39:22 PM
Kenwyne and dem setting out they stall for the new administration. That is all.

Collecting the money from the ticket outlets etc takes time. Plus with the elections going on and the transition, it easy to see how there might be a delay.

But with this stance KJ and team letting them know what time it is for now and the future. They should use this opportunity to look to get FPATT off the ground here and perhaps some kind of collective bargaining for national team players and pro league players in T&T.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: palos on December 10, 2015, 06:10:18 PM
A nex blacklist coming up?  ;D

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Bourbon on December 10, 2015, 06:32:19 PM
Heard Jan Michael Williams tonight saying that from information gathered that the outstanding money from the ticket sales were only finished being collected today from the outlets. Had to rush off to work so didn't hear the full thing. Sad though.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: davyjenny1 on December 10, 2015, 06:33:18 PM


Look out for W Connection masquerading as T&T at this tournament.  2 birds with one stone.....Shahdon Winchester gets to be on de National team and Stuart Charles returns as National team coach  :)

Watch de proceedings

I'm done with Trinidad and Tobago football if that happens

I heard that on Nov.19,1989 right after de U.S game and there after for many fans.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Deeks on December 10, 2015, 06:52:55 PM
They should use this opportunity to look to get FPATT off the ground here and perhaps some kind of collective bargaining for national team players and pro league players in T&T.

The govt teams can't join FPATT. They already have a job.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: de_redman on December 10, 2015, 08:08:01 PM
Stuueeps...... Yes Kenwyne we know you are the leader on the side... No need to pee on everything prematurely.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: palos on December 10, 2015, 08:42:32 PM
To me...KJ and the players not peein on anyting prematurely or anything like that.

The players have been conditioned to act this way by their Federation

Players, coaches, administrative staff have all had to put up with empty promises for eons.

Players have had $$$ promised to them significantly reduced.

They've been blacklisted

Coaches have not been paid to this day

There is always some cass cass about $$$ and the players.  This is their livelihood and is only excuse after excuse

The ONLY TIME things appear to get done is when they take some sort of unified action.  And of course that is more stress.

Once again they're told they will be paid and still nothing.  If the TTFA is depending solely on gate receipts to pay the players, what about all of their other debts?

I can't blame the players here.  They playing the only card they know that will get results. 

And that card was dealt to them by the TTFA, Ministry of Sport etc.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 10, 2015, 11:44:07 PM
Good move KJ...

I tell some hard head men on here that the players will strike if this nonsense continues with ttfa and now it's extended to the pnm as well..

Fed up of these men masquerading like they know what they are doing... John better get he business in order and I don't want to see a w connection team nor Charles as coach.. Or I will be done with Trinidad football, and plenty people I know will also be done...

What happen to the glorious new government... Smith can't get rowley to approve funding and write a cheque to the team?

 A serious matter like this needs addressing immediately so we can play this playoff.. The players deserve better than this and I don't blame them at all for striking ...

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Sando prince on December 10, 2015, 11:48:21 PM
Good move KJ...

I tell some hard head men on here that the players will strike if this nonsense continues with ttfa and now it's extended to the pnm as well..

Fed up of these men masquerading like they know what they are doing... John better get he business in order and I don't want to see a w connection team nor Charles as coach.. Or I will be done with Trinidad football, and plenty people I know will also be done...

What happen to the glorious new government... Smith can't get rowley to approve funding and write a cheque to the team?

 A serious matter like this needs addressing immediately so we can play this playoff.. The players deserve better than this and I don't blame them at all for striking ...



You does still wonder why people in here think you crazy?  :rotfl:

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 10, 2015, 11:52:19 PM
Good move KJ...

I tell some hard head men on here that the players will strike if this nonsense continues with ttfa and now it's extended to the pnm as well..

Fed up of these men masquerading like they know what they are doing... John better get he business in order and I don't want to see a w connection team nor Charles as coach.. Or I will be done with Trinidad football, and plenty people I know will also be done...

What happen to the glorious new government... Smith can't get rowley to approve funding and write a cheque to the team?

 A serious matter like this needs addressing immediately so we can play this playoff.. The players deserve better than this and I don't blame them at all for striking ...



You does still wonder why people in here think you crazy?  :rotfl:



Fool... When the cabinet approve funding for sport, it includes football... When that money getting disperse? When the government writing that cheque for football? It has been allocated and the mos got his budget, where the hell is the money idiot?

Laugh like a fool and watch our football burn and people does wonder why man does catch they tail when they so harden ...
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Sando prince on December 10, 2015, 11:56:55 PM
Good move KJ...

I tell some hard head men on here that the players will strike if this nonsense continues with ttfa and now it's extended to the pnm as well..

Fed up of these men masquerading like they know what they are doing... John better get he business in order and I don't want to see a w connection team nor Charles as coach.. Or I will be done with Trinidad football, and plenty people I know will also be done...

What happen to the glorious new government... Smith can't get rowley to approve funding and write a cheque to the team?

 A serious matter like this needs addressing immediately so we can play this playoff.. The players deserve better than this and I don't blame them at all for striking ...



You does still wonder why people in here think you crazy?  :rotfl:



Fool... When the cabinet approve funding for sport, it includes football... When that money getting disperse? When the government writing that cheque for football? It has been allocated and the mos got his budget, where the hell is the money idiot?

Laugh like a fool and watch our football burn and people does wonder why man does catch they tail when they so harden ...

Contro we know you anti-PNM but the Minister should not do the  job as the President of the TTFA. There are ways he can influence football and use his office to ensure things are being done but he definitely should not cut a cheque for football players. The Ministry job has been to distribute funding to different sporting organisations and because of this they have the influence to hold them accountable but you want them to actually bypass the sporting organisation and cut cheques to individual players?   :rotfl:

And hear you talking about Rowley too  :rotfl:
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Sando prince on December 11, 2015, 12:00:29 AM
Good move KJ...

I tell some hard head men on here that the players will strike if this nonsense continues with ttfa and now it's extended to the pnm as well..

Fed up of these men masquerading like they know what they are doing... John better get he business in order and I don't want to see a w connection team nor Charles as coach.. Or I will be done with Trinidad football, and plenty people I know will also be done...

What happen to the glorious new government... Smith can't get rowley to approve funding and write a cheque to the team?

 A serious matter like this needs addressing immediately so we can play this playoff.. The players deserve better than this and I don't blame them at all for striking ...



You does still wonder why people in here think you crazy?  :rotfl:



Fool... When the cabinet approve funding for sport, it includes football... When that money getting disperse? When the government writing that cheque for football? It has been allocated and the mos got his budget, where the hell is the money idiot?

Laugh like a fool and watch our football burn and people does wonder why man does catch they tail when they so harden ...

So you opened your hole to make a claim the TTFA has not received funding from the Ministry since the previous budget?  :D
Title: TTFA and the current Government sabotaging our football...
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2015, 12:01:53 AM
Both of them only care to fill their own pocket and the new prez only care about w connection...

You mean to tell me that David John Williams had no knowledge of what was going on with our players and money..

All the blind partisan supporters on here talking about the previous government and now we have Smith who in charge how long now and can't tell the public how much money is allocated to football?

No money has been allocated to football and the government knew the situation. What happen to David and the PNM... Put their money where their mouth is and fund the team...

What is all this excuse about election just finish and all this nonsense, we're in December already.

Why doesn't David go and get funding from the local businesses, oh I forgot, he run Sabga and them from the admin, which could have helped in this case.. Smart move..

You ent see, these men is a bunch of idiots only looking for handouts and not proactive..

I don't want to hear anything about this current government until they fund the national team or David get sponsorship to fix this debacle..

Waste of time people..
Title: Re: TTFA and the current Government sabotaging our football...
Post by: Sando prince on December 11, 2015, 12:03:23 AM
Forumites Contro is having another mental breakdown  :D

You saying no money has been allocated to football by the Ministry? Voices in your head again.

Why you hate the PNM so much Contro?  ;D
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2015, 12:05:24 AM
Good move KJ...

I tell some hard head men on here that the players will strike if this nonsense continues with ttfa and now it's extended to the pnm as well..

Fed up of these men masquerading like they know what they are doing... John better get he business in order and I don't want to see a w connection team nor Charles as coach.. Or I will be done with Trinidad football, and plenty people I know will also be done...

What happen to the glorious new government... Smith can't get rowley to approve funding and write a cheque to the team?

 A serious matter like this needs addressing immediately so we can play this playoff.. The players deserve better than this and I don't blame them at all for striking ...



You does still wonder why people in here think you crazy?  :rotfl:



Fool... When the cabinet approve funding for sport, it includes football... When that money getting disperse? When the government writing that cheque for football? It has been allocated and the mos got his budget, where the hell is the money idiot?

Laugh like a fool and watch our football burn and people does wonder why man does catch they tail when they so harden ...

So you opened your hole to make a claim the TTFA has not received funding from the Ministry since the previous budget?  :D


I'm sorry I had to break it down in detail for you, it is blatantly obvious the funding goes to the football org... I didn't know I had to spell that out for you...

My bad, I will draw a picture for you next time to illustrate and the pm has the power to make things happen, unless there something I don't know that you know about how the system of politics works in Trinidad.. Which I don't need an education on...
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2015, 12:06:10 AM
Good move KJ...

I tell some hard head men on here that the players will strike if this nonsense continues with ttfa and now it's extended to the pnm as well..

Fed up of these men masquerading like they know what they are doing... John better get he business in order and I don't want to see a w connection team nor Charles as coach.. Or I will be done with Trinidad football, and plenty people I know will also be done...

What happen to the glorious new government... Smith can't get rowley to approve funding and write a cheque to the team?

 A serious matter like this needs addressing immediately so we can play this playoff.. The players deserve better than this and I don't blame them at all for striking ...



You does still wonder why people in here think you crazy?  :rotfl:



Fool... When the cabinet approve funding for sport, it includes football... When that money getting disperse? When the government writing that cheque for football? It has been allocated and the mos got his budget, where the hell is the money idiot?

Laugh like a fool and watch our football burn and people does wonder why man does catch they tail when they so harden ...

Contro we know you anti-PNM but the Minister should not do the  job as the President of the TTFA. There are ways he can influence football and use his office to ensure things are being done but he definitely should not cut a cheque for football players. The Ministry job has been to distribute funding to different sporting organisations and because of this they have the influence to hold them accountable but you want them to actually bypass the sporting organisation and cut cheques to individual players?   :rotfl:

And hear you talking about Rowley too  :rotfl:


Anti idiot.... Whether it be pnm, unc or you...
Title: Re: TTFA and the current Government sabotaging our football...
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2015, 12:08:30 AM
Forumites Contro is having another mental breakdown  :D

You saying no money has been allocated to football by the Ministry? Voices in your head again.

Why you hate the PNM so much Contro?  ;D

How much money has been allocated to football by the new admin to date?

Please enlighten me?

No this is a hate for idiots who try to ruin our national program... Nothing to do with pnm, if this was unc I would treat it the same way..
Title: Re: TTFA and the current Government sabotaging our football...
Post by: Sando prince on December 11, 2015, 12:14:41 AM
Forumites Contro is having another mental breakdown  :D

You saying no money has been allocated to football by the Ministry? Voices in your head again.

Why you hate the PNM so much Contro?  ;D

How much money has been allocated to football by the new admin to date?

Please enlighten me?

No this is a hate for idiots who try to ruin our national program... Nothing to do with pnm, if this was unc I would treat it the same way..

Like you said not a red cent. Wha yuh say in another thread? Rowley should come down from the PM house and sign some cheques?  :D  :rotfl:
Title: Re: TTFA and the current Government sabotaging our football...
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2015, 12:16:30 AM
Forumites Contro is having another mental breakdown  :D

You saying no money has been allocated to football by the Ministry? Voices in your head again.

Why you hate the PNM so much Contro?  ;D

How much money has been allocated to football by the new admin to date?

Please enlighten me?

No this is a hate for idiots who try to ruin our national program... Nothing to do with pnm, if this was unc I would treat it the same way..

Like you said not a red cent. Wha yuh say in another thread? Rowley should come down from the PM house and sign some cheques?  :D  :rotfl:


He could send you to deliver the cheque... I'm sure you will gladly do it...
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2015, 12:21:05 AM


Look out for W Connection masquerading as T&T at this tournament.  2 birds with one stone.....Shahdon Winchester gets to be on de National team and Stuart Charles returns as National team coach  :)

Watch de proceedings

I'm done with Trinidad and Tobago football if that happens

I heard that on Nov.19,1989 right after de U.S game and there after from many fans.


This is the last straw ... The football team won't recover from this if the govt and ttfa fail here... It will be solely their blame..
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2015, 12:39:44 AM
Every time I see the minister of sport, he shaking hands and smiling but doing nothing and saying nothing of substance..

Like he only focusing on eating 7 and 8 course meals everyday...

Eat ah food minister, eat ah food...
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2015, 12:46:41 AM
The TTFA made 1.2 million dollars profit from the Women's game when he played Ecuador and tickets were just $100.00 TTD each.

When the men team played USA last month we had a sold out stadium at higher priced tickets.

My question is.

Where did the money go from the USA game?

300 covered stands and 150 uncovered, do the math.

I am sure DJW will work on this right away.

Give him some time, even though it should not have reached this stage.

Didn't the government put aside millions for sports? or is all going for the olympic team?

Darryl Smith need to wake up.



Smith not waking up, he too busy fulling his belly... Siesta time for him... Watch him hibernate
Title: Re: TTFA and the current Government sabotaging our football...
Post by: Deeks on December 11, 2015, 01:15:16 AM
Contro, John Williams has to straighten out what Tim Kee left for him. At the mean time the Minister has to deal with all other sports. Not just football. Like you, I was expecting John-Williams to come marching in with his financiers to fix TTFA. What the TTFA need first and foremost is money. money, money, money. I will give John some slack for now. but when the WC, Women;s Olimpic and the Copa America qualifiers come around ..... we eh want any excuse!
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: maxg on December 11, 2015, 04:23:14 AM
I'm not sure we're in any position to be giving anybody ultimatums, or telling them we not playing them in the future.  That would be classic cutting off we nose to spite we face kinda thing.

THIS
True dat. Yet..if we shoot weself in we foot financially chances are we won't afford to play nobody anyway. Did u include player and staff match fees ? Cause I bet everybody not working for free as is US we dealing with.
so what change that we can afford to send 2 women teams up and down the hemisphere now ? We didn't need to play Canada, we playing USA, followed by a couple US colleges, would have been a good measure and learning experience. Anyway..something else happening.
What the men schedule like or dey have none ?
ok many questions get answered with time.  Smh

Add: except, wtfwtt y this would work..sometimes we to shame to say...been there done that..can't have yuh buljol and eat it too
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Flex on December 11, 2015, 06:23:55 AM
Warriors to blank Copa qualifier.
By Ashford Jackman (Newsday).


LESS THAN a fortnight since being voted in as president of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA), David John-Williams has been confronted with his first major challenge.

Unsurprisingly money is the root of the problem which has plagued previous administrations.

A media release sent from national team captain Kenwyne Jones yesterday proclaimed the “entire team” were pulling out of a January qualifier for the 2016 Copa America — a decision that it said resulted from the TT FA’s failure to pay outstanding match fees.

The release, issued from KenwyneJonesMedia, stated: “We were promised months ago that a payment would be made to the boys after the last game (the World Cup Qualifier against USA in November).

To date, unfortunately that arrangement has not been honoured, and based on recent discussions with the TTFA, there is no indication as to when these financial matters will be settled.” Newsday understands the outstanding fees are for the two World Cup qualifiers against Guatemala and the US (on November 13 and 17 respectively) and a friendly against Nicaragua on October 13.

When contacted yesterday afternoon, John-Williams told Newsday he had not received any communication from Jones or any team representative about the decision.

He said he only knew of it “by the media houses calling me.” The man best known as the owner/ chairman of the very successful TT Pro League club W Connection (a post he relinquished on assuming the TTFA presidency) added that he had just one comment to make.

“The players were promised their match fees Friday after the World Cup qualifier against the USA, which was the 19th, and I came in to office two weeks after that, and when I came into office...

we were still collecting money from ticket outlets via post-dated cheques. You as the media deduce from that.” Williams explained that he did not want to appear as a president making unilateral decisions.

“I want to be consistent. That is my statement with regard to what has transpired. If I go beyond that, it would open up another can of worms, and Trinidad (and Tobago) football don’t need that right now.” The Soca Warriors are scheduled to play Haiti in a one-off qualifier for the South America championship which will be played in the US next year. The Copa América Centenario match is set for January 8, 2016, at the Estadio Rommel Fernandez in Panama City, Panama.

John-Williams told Newsday he could not say whether TT would face any sanctions if the national team failed to play the match.

It is not the first time Jones and teammates have threatened to boycott a match. In 2014, captain Jones led a proposed strike of the CFU Final against Jamaica over a $10 million wage dispute with the TT FA which was led by former president Raymond Tim Kee with Sheldon Phillips as his general secretary.

Yesterday’s release stated that Jones was speaking on behalf of his “distressed teammates.” “Of course, we want to play. We want to represent our country to the best of our abilities. We have a talented squad that is eager to give their all. But this is also our livelihood.

The conditions must change for our national athletes.

“The support that we’ve seen from supporters has only made the decision not to play even more difficult and disappointing for the team.” The release concluded that Jones and the other Senior Men’s team members are hopeful that a resolution will be swift and forthcoming.

“Above all else,” Jones added, “we never want to disappoint our fans, and we hope that they understand our decision.” David John-Williams, although concerned about the situation, urged the players to use protocol to resolve their problems.

“When the players approach me to deal with it, I will deal with it along with the board of the TTFA, which I think is the right way to do. I’m not going to be a president who, this is not a one man show.

The board is expected to meet next week, Wednesday 16th, at which we will deal with the matter.” While declining to make any pronouncement regarding the situation, John-Williams, however, did comment on the way it was handled.

“What is sad is that the players have not given (the TTFA) a c.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: FF on December 11, 2015, 06:58:10 AM
Contro gone clear blaming the govt for this one. TTFA ent even request money from the govt yet because the players ent even contact them.
DJW still ent even know where the stationary cabinet is... Allyuh hold facking tight nah.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: madness on December 11, 2015, 08:29:44 AM
this is bullshit!!!!!!!  :banginghead: :banginghead: :banging head:

i think it's unfair for Jones and the teammates to start trying to get money NOW!!!!!   Trinidad is now rank 49 in the world and playing good football.. it was so hard to get the fans to come out and to support the team. the team manager should've discuss this matter to the president of TTFA regarding the funds. it going to be unfair for the younger players who will love the opportunity to play in the COPA America...

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: lefty on December 11, 2015, 08:34:10 AM
this is bullshit!!!!!!!  :banginghead: :banginghead: :banging head:

i think it's unfair for Jones and the teammates to start trying to get money NOW!!!!!   Trinidad is now rank 49 in the world and playing good football.. it was so hard to get the fans to come out and to support the team. the team manager should've discuss this matter to the president of TTFA regarding the funds. it going to be unfair for the younger players who will love the opportunity to play in the COPA America...



dread they have apparently been owed for months ...... dat team been leavin it on d field for this country, is not like d WI team, whey yuh hadda tink hard to remember the last team of note dey beat.......let them try to get there monies.....remember d admin change too, dem probably feel it goh issues to get what due to dem from d new admin if dey doh act
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: spideybuff on December 11, 2015, 08:38:24 AM
I feel the timing is cause men need their money for the christmas. Hadda buy presents for the kids (and the WAGs) and groceries etc. Specifically the local based.

I think this is more a strategic move to put pressure on the TTFA with enough time for things to be resolved before the January game.

Harsh on the President so soon into his reign but at the end of the day, Latas and them should really hadda wait if the players being owed money as they are the ones who "selling the product" currently and would be the key to any future revenue coming in and as such are the most valuable commodity and should be treated as such. Both the male and female teams.

 It have a few men on the side who play for Connection though so they would have history in terms of John-Williams and his treatment of players.I think that would have an impact on discussions and if the team willing to trust that he is working on it if he has to wait for a cabinet note or the kpmg accounts that he demanded be completed immediately.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: che on December 11, 2015, 09:04:37 AM
this is bullshit!!!!!!!  :banginghead: :banginghead: :banging head:

i think it's unfair for Jones and the teammates to start trying to get money NOW!!!!!   Trinidad is now rank 49 in the world and playing good football.. it was so hard to get the fans to come out and to support the team. the team manager should've discuss this matter to the president of TTFA regarding the funds. it going to be unfair for the younger players who will love the opportunity to play in the COPA America...



Go to work for your Company for the next few months but don't collect your salary but you still have bills to pay Unfair .
Your friend ask you to help him paint his home or fix his roof and he will pay you a little money, job done and he don't pay you. Unfair
You get hurt helping your friend , he did not pay you and now you off your full time job because of the injury and your job let you go Unfair

Now tell me again how are the players unfair?
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Sando prince on December 11, 2015, 10:01:51 AM

The radio just reported that David John Williams said NO ONE from the senior team contacted him before releasing this statement.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Quags on December 11, 2015, 10:44:18 AM

The radio just reported that David John Williams said NO ONE from the senior team contacted him before releasing this statement.
It was stated in the Jackman article ,that no player had contacted him or the ttff which was sad .
So basically someone from the team has to personally contact him to let him know to deal with it and he would start.So call him Guys .
Also there a board meeting next week on the 16th where it will be discussed .
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2015, 11:09:03 AM

The radio just reported that David John Williams said NO ONE from the senior team contacted him before releasing this statement.
It was stated in the Jackman article ,that no player had contacted him or the ttff which was sad .
So basically someone from the team has to personally contact him to let him know to deal with it and he would start.So call him Guys .
Also there a board meeting next week on the 16th where it will be discussed .


This is just stupid.  The point is that at least have a conversation and hear what the new administration is willing/able to do before yuh reach for the nuclear option of announcing strike, and via "Kenwyne Jones Media" at that.  That is not the proper way to do things.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: palos on December 11, 2015, 11:26:47 AM

The radio just reported that David John Williams said NO ONE from the senior team contacted him before releasing this statement.
It was stated in the Jackman article ,that no player had contacted him or the ttff which was sad .
So basically someone from the team has to personally contact him to let him know to deal with it and he would start.So call him Guys .
Also there a board meeting next week on the 16th where it will be discussed .


This is just stupid.  The point is that at least have a conversation and hear what the new administration is willing/able to do before yuh reach for the nuclear option of announcing strike, and via "Kenwyne Jones Media" at that.  That is not the proper way to do things.

The players can counter and say it not the proper way to continuously put them in a position where they feel they always have to resort to this sort of action to get items that are due to them.

At the heart of the matter is a lack of TRUST.  And I don't blame the players at all for that.

Remember.....KJ was once a W Connection player and very well familiar with the new TTFA President
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2015, 11:54:17 AM
Contro gone clear blaming the govt for this one. TTFA ent even request money from the govt yet because the players ent even contact them.
DJW still ent even know where the stationary cabinet is... Allyuh hold facking tight nah.



Hear nah Breds, I don't trust Djw, the radio nor the govt for that matter... Latas get money but the players get blank...

Hold tight for David to screw the players, Jones was a connection player before.. He know what that man gives..
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2015, 11:54:57 AM

The radio just reported that David John Williams said NO ONE from the senior team contacted him before releasing this statement.
It was stated in the Jackman article ,that no player had contacted him or the ttff which was sad .
So basically someone from the team has to personally contact him to let him know to deal with it and he would start.So call him Guys .
Also there a board meeting next week on the 16th where it will be discussed .


This is just stupid.  The point is that at least have a conversation and hear what the new administration is willing/able to do before yuh reach for the nuclear option of announcing strike, and via "Kenwyne Jones Media" at that.  That is not the proper way to do things.

The players can counter and say it not the proper way to continuously put them in a position where they feel they always have to resort to this sort of action to get items that are due to them.

At the heart of the matter is a lack of TRUST.  And I don't blame the players at all for that.

Remember.....KJ was once a W Connection player and very well familiar with the new TTFA President

Finally some sense is spoken...  :beermug:
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2015, 11:55:36 AM

The radio just reported that David John Williams said NO ONE from the senior team contacted him before releasing this statement.

Hear nah I don't trust you, the radio or David John Williams for that matter...
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Quags on December 11, 2015, 12:06:56 PM
Yeah they should have atleast called him , but they must have thought they would have just gotten a promise of payment .And like Spideybuff said its to close to Christmas to make any misteps , must have thought it wiser to go for the jugular .
And they have to awkwardly call him now because he's waiting before he does anything , .....to him , it seems, its just a rumour until he hears from them.
The meeting is on the 16th , that's a bit over a week before Christmas , so the check has to be cut by the 18th or we are gonna have some unhappy National Players.

The radio just reported that David John Williams said NO ONE from the senior team contacted him before releasing this statement.
It was stated in the Jackman article ,that no player had contacted him or the ttff which was sad .
So basically someone from the team has to personally contact him to let him know to deal with it and he would start.So call him Guys .
Also there a board meeting next week on the 16th where it will be discussed .


This is just stupid.  The point is that at least have a conversation and hear what the new administration is willing/able to do before yuh reach for the nuclear option of announcing strike, and via "Kenwyne Jones Media" at that.  That is not the proper way to do things.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2015, 12:12:03 PM

The players can counter and say it not the proper way to continuously put them in a position where they feel they always have to resort to this sort of action to get items that are due to them.

At the heart of the matter is a lack of TRUST.  And I don't blame the players at all for that.

Remember.....KJ was once a W Connection player and very well familiar with the new TTFA President

Nobody is 'putting' them in any position, money tight and sometimes it runs slow.  The players are well-aware of this.  Money from the friendlies are still being accounted for, this is not unusual.  The Guatemala qualifier was only two months ago, payment isn't even late 60 days... is not 6 months we're talking here.  This is entirely premature given that they didn't even see fit to reach out to find out what could be done about the past-due arrears.

Yeah they should have atleast called him , but they must have thought they would have just gotten a promise of payment .And like Spideybuff said its to close to Christmas to make any misteps , must have thought it wiser to go for the jugular .
And they have to awkwardly call him now because he's waiting before he does anything , .....to him , it seems, its just a rumour until he hears from them.
The meeting is on the 16th , that's a bit over a week before Christmas , so the check has to be cut by the 18th or we are gonna have some unhappy National Players.

Where are you getting that from?  He never said they must first call him before he will do anything.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Quags on December 11, 2015, 12:21:07 PM
Warriors to blank Copa qualifier.
By Ashford Jackman (Newsday).


LESS THAN a fortnight since being voted in as president of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA), David John-Williams has been confronted with his first major challenge.

Unsurprisingly money is the root of the problem which has plagued previous administrations.

A media release sent from national team captain Kenwyne Jones yesterday proclaimed the “entire team” were pulling out of a January qualifier for the 2016 Copa America — a decision that it said resulted from the TT FA’s failure to pay outstanding match fees.

The release, issued from KenwyneJonesMedia, stated: “We were promised months ago that a payment would be made to the boys after the last game (the World Cup Qualifier against USA in November).

To date, unfortunately that arrangement has not been honoured, and based on recent discussions with the TTFA, there is no indication as to when these financial matters will be settled.” Newsday understands the outstanding fees are for the two World Cup qualifiers against Guatemala and the US (on November 13 and 17 respectively) and a friendly against Nicaragua on October 13.

When contacted yesterday afternoon, John-Williams told Newsday he had not received any communication from Jones or any team representative about the decision.

He said he only knew of it “by the media houses calling me.” The man best known as the owner/ chairman of the very successful TT Pro League club W Connection (a post he relinquished on assuming the TTFA presidency) added that he had just one comment to make.

“The players were promised their match fees Friday after the World Cup qualifier against the USA, which was the 19th, and I came in to office two weeks after that, and when I came into office...

we were still collecting money from ticket outlets via post-dated cheques. You as the media deduce from that.” Williams explained that he did not want to appear as a president making unilateral decisions.

“I want to be consistent. That is my statement with regard to what has transpired. If I go beyond that, it would open up another can of worms, and Trinidad (and Tobago) football don’t need that right now.” The Soca Warriors are scheduled to play Haiti in a one-off qualifier for the South America championship which will be played in the US next year. The Copa América Centenario match is set for January 8, 2016, at the Estadio Rommel Fernandez in Panama City, Panama.

John-Williams told Newsday he could not say whether TT would face any sanctions if the national team failed to play the match.

It is not the first time Jones and teammates have threatened to boycott a match. In 2014, captain Jones led a proposed strike of the CFU Final against Jamaica over a $10 million wage dispute with the TT FA which was led by former president Raymond Tim Kee with Sheldon Phillips as his general secretary.

Yesterday’s release stated that Jones was speaking on behalf of his “distressed teammates.” “Of course, we want to play. We want to represent our country to the best of our abilities. We have a talented squad that is eager to give their all. But this is also our livelihood.

The conditions must change for our national athletes.

“The support that we’ve seen from supporters has only made the decision not to play even more difficult and disappointing for the team.” The release concluded that Jones and the other Senior Men’s team members are hopeful that a resolution will be swift and forthcoming.

“Above all else,” Jones added, “we never want to disappoint our fans, and we hope that they understand our decision.” David John-Williams, although concerned about the situation, urged the players to use protocol to resolve their problems.

When the players approach me to deal with it, I will deal with it along with the board of the TTFA, which I think is the right way to do. I’m not going to be a president who, this is not a one man show.

The board is expected to meet next week, Wednesday 16th, at which we will deal with the matter.” While declining to make any pronouncement regarding the situation, John-Williams, however, did comment on the way it was handled.

“What is sad is that the players have not given (the TTFA) a c.


Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Quags on December 11, 2015, 12:24:04 PM
Your right he didn't say call now , only that they should have called,  but that's what I  got from it , besides Kenwyne is in Wales so he has to call , unless somebody else go meet the man.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: palos on December 11, 2015, 12:24:13 PM
Nobody is 'putting' them in any position, money tight and sometimes it runs slow. 

With all respect, tell that to your or anyone's employees and see what happens.

I don't think the players out to bankrupt T&T football.  And if by some chance they are, they've been given a perfect example of what to do from administrators.

I reiterate....there is a lack of TRUST.  Jack was there for eons. Tim Kee come in.  Same khaki pants.  Williams come now....a KNOWN entity....and you think players expect any different than what went before?

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Quags on December 11, 2015, 12:37:03 PM
Ok now my pov , pleyers made there move , might not have been the most tactful way , but DJW now knows his employees need to be paid before Christmas hope he gets off his high horse and makes it happen , meet with the board and pay the people.
Your employees should not have to remind you that they need to get paid  , and when they do, you cant get offended lol.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: maxg on December 11, 2015, 12:51:58 PM
Hey... I better call DJW to let him know that FIFA let the previous admin know that they have to pay Pellerud too or we country teams can get reprimanded, cause like ppl from previous admin wasn't telling him or asking him nothing.or maybe, he should just continue reading Sw.net..and use excuse, he didn't see THIS or THAT post, as it suits his admin.

Thought the 1st thing would be to look at books, see what we owe, to who, and then see what we could afford to do, with what we have and what we can raise/work for...but I guess with so many tournaments and invitations happening, he got confused and didn't realize the credit card was maxed out, and only change in the right pocket, and a hole in the left.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2015, 01:06:30 PM
With all respect, tell that to your or anyone's employees and see what happens.


I deal with this on the regular with my clients.  Anybody who involved in any kind of business will encounter this at some point or the other, but yuh don't run to the press or the courts just because a payment is 60 days late, especially when there might be legitimate reasons for the payment being late.  Should the FA start suspending or blacklisting players if their clubs refuse to release them for games? I have no dog in the fight, at the end of the day I want what's best for TnT football, THIS is not the best way to start off a relationship, let alone resolve issues. 
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2015, 01:10:19 PM
Hey... I better call DJW to let him know that FIFA let the previous admin know that they have to pay Pellerud too or we country teams can get reprimanded, cause like ppl from previous admin wasn't telling him or asking him nothing.or maybe, he should just continue reading Sw.net..and use excuse, he didn't see THIS or THAT post, as it suits his admin.

Thought the 1st thing would be to look at books, see what we owe, to who, and then see what we could afford to do, with what we have and what we can raise/work for...but I guess with so many tournaments and invitations happening, he got confused and didn't realize the credit card was maxed out, and only change in the right pocket, and a hole in the left.

Max you self... like allyuh ent understanding what allyuh reading or what?  He never said he didn't know about it.  Is not like he's saying he didn't know the players were owed money, he said he didn't know anything about strike until the press start contacting him.  The point about the phone call is to underscore the lack of professional courtesy on the parts of the players.  If something so fundamental doesn't make sense to allyuh fellas here, and allyuh is de educated ones, no wonder we in a mess when it comes to the average man on the street in TnT.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: maxg on December 11, 2015, 01:42:26 PM
I really didn't read the whole thing..still haven't.. but, oh shim..he knew about the money, and they have to call him to do what ? remind him ? prpare to hold a story ? so he could tell them is ok..play it coming ? so he professionally couldn't call them before hand ? who ball the lack of professional courtesy lay in ?  so let's see if Fifa just ban we ass for not paying that next man we hired, if he demonstrate they didn't call him before, if it will mean something to somebody...there is different levels of education.. I old enuff to see fellas graduate with Doctorate and straight A's still have no common sense..and yet the man on the street could still teach them things they don't know about.  *wink*
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: palos on December 11, 2015, 02:42:47 PM
yuh don't run to the press or the courts just because a payment is 60 days late, especially when there might be legitimate reasons for the payment being late. 

True.  If the late payment happen once....twice...maybe even 3 times.

What about ALL THE TIME?  And the way you end up getting paid in the past is to take/threaten strike action

What then? 
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2015, 02:46:14 PM
True.  If the late payment happen once....twice...maybe even 3 times.

What about ALL THE TIME?  And the way you end up getting paid in the past is to take/threaten strike action

What then? 

From the same customer/client?  Perhaps.  But if it's under new management then there's no need to start off doing business that way, at least give them a chance.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: palos on December 11, 2015, 02:52:57 PM
True.  If the late payment happen once....twice...maybe even 3 times.

What about ALL THE TIME?  And the way you end up getting paid in the past is to take/threaten strike action

What then? 

From the same customer/client?  Perhaps.  But if it's under new management then there's no need to start off doing business that way, at least give them a chance.

I think that is the problem.  I suspect the players don't see a different client....new management or not.   They see the same TTFA\TTFF. 

And perhaps the biggest indicator is that the players KNOW the new management.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: soccerman on December 11, 2015, 03:14:21 PM
I knew that DJW wanted to meet with Tim Kee, I wondered if that ever happened? I don't know much about DJW and I'm willing to give he and his board a fair chance to sort things out.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 11, 2015, 03:56:53 PM
True.  If the late payment happen once....twice...maybe even 3 times.

What about ALL THE TIME?  And the way you end up getting paid in the past is to take/threaten strike action

What then? 

From the same customer/client?  Perhaps.  But if it's under new management then there's no need to start off doing business that way, at least give them a chance.

I think that is the problem.  I suspect the players don't see a different client....new management or not.   They see the same TTFA\TTFF. 

And perhaps the biggest indicator is that the players KNOW the new management.

Hear the chain up that going on here family...

Why the players have to call to get their money? Why weren't they paid or called instead?

Nobody ask that question yet, Djw know what the scene was and just coasting, instead of being proactive and taking care of it..

So guess what KJ and the players do, take front before front take them...
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: gawd on pitch on December 11, 2015, 04:35:25 PM
I think both sides could have handled this matter a bit better.

The players or their representatives should have contacted DJW before the KJ media press release. But at the same time to, the federation could have kept the lines of communication more open by giving the players an update on the status of their payment.

DJW and the mos have a good opportunity to prove their worth to their constituents. If these guys are men of action, they will come up with a resolution sooner than later.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: palos on December 11, 2015, 05:17:24 PM
You're a player on the Mens National team

You have "history" with the TTFA...especially regarding payment on time.

It's not a good history by any means

You were promised that you would be paid for the Guatemala WCQ matches.  Nobody talkin about when that payment was supposed to have been made.

Let's say promised payment time come and gone....YET AGAIN

You seeing Womens team gone Hawaii and touring the continental United States

You seeing the Womens B team gone Brazil

Not a peep about your payment.

How would you feel?

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Sando prince on December 11, 2015, 05:36:04 PM
You're a player on the Mens National team

You have "history" with the TTFA...especially regarding payment on time.

It's not a good history by any means

You were promised that you would be paid for the Guatemala WCQ matches.  Nobody talkin about when that payment was supposed to have been made.

Let's say promised payment time come and gone....YET AGAIN

You seeing Womens team gone Hawaii and touring the continental United States

You seeing the Womens B team gone Brazil

Not a peep about your payment.

How would you feel?



Is that what happened? I could say the same thing like you but I hate to speculate.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: palos on December 11, 2015, 06:03:19 PM
You're a player on the Mens National team

You have "history" with the TTFA...especially regarding payment on time.

It's not a good history by any means

You were promised that you would be paid for the Guatemala WCQ matches.  Nobody talkin about when that payment was supposed to have been made.

Let's say promised payment time come and gone....YET AGAIN

You seeing Womens team gone Hawaii and touring the continental United States

You seeing the Womens B team gone Brazil

Not a peep about your payment.

How would you feel?



Is that what happened? I could say the same thing like you but I hate to speculate.


The alternative would be that the players would go into these World Cup Qualifying matches based purely on National pride and no expectation of payment.

What you think?
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Bakes on December 11, 2015, 06:07:07 PM

You were promised that you would be paid for the Guatemala WCQ matches.  Nobody talkin about when that payment was supposed to have been made.



This was implicitly addressed... that game was November 15, the US game was November 17.  The Nicaragua friendly was October 14th.  These are the matches they say they haven't been paid for.  Going all the way back to October 14th, that would put the oldest due payment at around 60 days late.  This is why I used that number.  Whatever "promise" was made, would have been made by Tim Kee, as he had fired Phillips and was running the show on his own at that point.

At that point the TTFA was being run by a an inexperienced person standing in for Phillips... that lasted two weeks.  Then the elections came, throwing everything off course.  DJW came in and immediately they were faced with the FIFA sanction issue over Pellerud's payment, preparing for the women's friendlies, meeting with Ministry of Sports etc.  And most importantly, STILL collecting payments from the US qualifier.  So if they still collecting payment, how were they supposed to pay them for that game?  At any rate, I won't bother going back and forth, is either folks see and accept that the actions were rash (as even the head coach alluded to) or they don't.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Sando prince on December 11, 2015, 06:32:36 PM
You're a player on the Mens National team

You have "history" with the TTFA...especially regarding payment on time.

It's not a good history by any means

You were promised that you would be paid for the Guatemala WCQ matches.  Nobody talkin about when that payment was supposed to have been made.

Let's say promised payment time come and gone....YET AGAIN

You seeing Womens team gone Hawaii and touring the continental United States

You seeing the Womens B team gone Brazil

Not a peep about your payment.

How would you feel?



Is that what happened? I could say the same thing like you but I hate to speculate.


The alternative would be that the players would go into these World Cup Qualifying matches based purely on National pride and no expectation of payment.

What you think?

Sure you can think of other alternatives. You put your head out there to be chopped off by saying with such conviction that some type of deadline may have passed. We don't know when payment was to be made.
.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: andre samuel on December 12, 2015, 12:55:50 AM
Until there is a day that you can go to bank or the grocery with a box of national pride, then I fully support the players.

Kenwyne is standing up for his team, he is being a leader both on and off the pitch.  It is not about the money for him.

I know that there could have been an option for the players to feel out DJW first, but i am sure that if they did, they would have simply received the same promise that they got from the previous TTFA admin.

The timing was perfect.  Copa America qualification is outside of a FIFA date, so no players can be forced to play.  It is also far away from the actual qualifiers in March, which gives enough time for wounds to heal after this "fall out"

Well done Jones

ah love it!!
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 12, 2015, 01:45:34 AM
Until there is a day that you can go to bank or the grocery with a box of national pride, then I fully support the players.

Kenwyne is standing up for his team, he is being a leader both on and off the pitch.  It is not about the money for him.

I know that there could have been an option for the players to feel out DJW first, but i am sure that if they did, they would have simply received the same promise that they got from the previous TTFA admin.

The timing was perfect.  Copa America qualification is outside of a FIFA date, so no players can be forced to play.  It is also far away from the actual qualifiers in March, which gives enough time for wounds to heal after this "fall out"

Well done Jones

ah love it!!

Why KJ and the team have to call?

Last time I check, djw not kicking the football and without the players there is no national team...

Djw damn well know what needed to be taken care of, along with the govt

Djw and the govt trying to sell allyuh cat in bag.. And allyuh buying it wholesale
Title: Re: TTFA and the current Government sabotaging our football...
Post by: Controversial on December 12, 2015, 01:47:50 AM
Contro, John Williams has to straighten out what Tim Kee left for him. At the mean time the Minister has to deal with all other sports. Not just football. Like you, I was expecting John-Williams to come marching in with his financiers to fix TTFA. What the TTFA need first and foremost is money. money, money, money. I will give John some slack for now. but when the WC, Women;s Olimpic and the Copa America qualifiers come around ..... we eh want any excuse!

Family, Djw selling allyuh cat in bag and allyuh buying it..

Why the players have to call him? He pretending like he didn't know the situation beforehand
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Flex on December 12, 2015, 06:31:29 AM
TTFA meeting not fruitful for protesting players.
T&T Guardian Reports.


The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) has failed to workout a soluation that would avoid having its best players selected for the 2016 COPA America qualifier against Haiti scheduled for January 8, 2016 in Panama City, Panama.

In an emergency meeting of the newly elected executive of the sport at the TTFA Offices, Hasely Crawford Stadium, Mucurapo, last evening, to address a threat from members of the senior men’s national team that they will withhold their services until outstanding match fees from the Gold Cup Tournament and two World Cup qualifies against Guatemala and USA are settled. At the conclusion of the meeting no solution was found.

In a news release last evening the TTFA states: “On the evening of December 10, 2015, it was brought to our attention that the players on the Trinidad & Tobago Senior Men’s national team had issued a press release.

The Press Release stated that the players decided that if selected for the 2016 COPA America qualifier scheduled for January 8, 2016 in Panama City, they will not take the field.

This was underlined by one of the senior players, during his participation in a radio programme, confirming the origin and content of the said press release. The reason cited for the players adopting this position is the fact that they are owed monies that they were promised months ago for representing our country.”

The release continued: “We appreciate the frustration of the players and we are endeavouring to address the position as soon as is practicable. Our ability to address the plight of all the people we owe is a function of the TTFA being in the financial position so to do.

Since we were elected to office on November 29, 2015, some ten (10) working days ago, we have been working assiduously to establish the financial position of the TTFA. In doing so our progress has been severely hampered by the lack of documentation, poor recordkeeping and the inability to collect monies due for gate receipts.”

The release added: “This also applies to this situation, apparently it has been custom and practice to operate in accordance with oral agreements, in many cases the parties often lacked the authority to commit the organisation.  “This places the new administration in the position of having to locate the parties to the said oral agreements, not unsurprisingly, their recall of the circumstances and what was agreed to is both inconsistent and contradictory.

Although this could take some time to unravel, please note that the players are not out of pocket. As is the norm, they continue to receive their club salary and all the costs they incurred when representing the national team, such as flight, accommodation, meals and sundry expenses, have been met by the TTFA.

Having said all the above, the absence of a policy governing the entitlement to match fees is also a serious oversight. For instance, based on our findings to date it appears that match fees are not a function of experience, number of appearances at national level, time on the field, or category of staff. This will be corrected as we go forward, and more specifically the policy will include an undertaking with respect to the timely payment of sums due.

In future, the operational protocol of the new administration will mirror that of the best run companies.

Full TTFA Report

Matter involving senior men's team and COPA America qualifier.
TTFA Media.


On the evening of December 10, 2015, it was brought to our attention that the players on the Trinidad & Tobago Senior Men’s national team had issued a press release.

The Press Release stated that the players decided that if selected for the 2016 COPA America qualifier scheduled for January 8, 2016 in Panama City, they will not take the field. This was underlined by one of the senior players, during his participation in a radio programme, confirming the origin and content of the said press release. The reason cited for the players adopting this position is the fact that they are owed monies that they were promised months ago for representing our country.

We appreciate the frustration of the players and we are endeavouring to address the position as soon as is practicable. Our ability to address the plight of all the people we owe is a function of the TTFA being in the financial position so to do.

Since we were elected to office on November 29, 2015, some ten (10) working days ago, we have been working assiduously to establish the financial position of the TTFA. In doing so our progress has been severely hampered by the lack of documentation, poor record keeping and the inability to collect monies due for gate receipts.

This also applies to this situation, apparently it has been custom and practice to operate in accordance with oral agreements, in many cases the parties often lacked the authority to commit the organisation. This places the new administration in the position of having to locate the parties to the said oral agreements, not unsurprisingly, their recall of the circumstances and what was agreed to is both inconsistent and contradictory.

Although this could take some time to unravel, please note that the players are not out of pocket. As is the norm, they continue to receive their club salary and all the costs they incurred when representing the national team, such as flight, accommodation, meals and sundry expenses, have been met by the TTFA.

Having said all the above, the absence of a policy governing the entitlement to match fees is also a serious oversight. For instance, based on our findings to date it appears that match fees are not a function of experience, number of appearances at national level, time on the field, or category of staff. This will be corrected as we go forward, and more specifically the policy will include an undertaking with respect to the timely payment of sums due.

In future, the operational protocol of the new administration will mirror that of the best run companies. The affairs of the TTFA will be conducted internally, mindful that to do otherwise, risks negatively impacting the reputation and credibility of the organisation. This in turn negatively impacts the TTFA’s ability to attract income, and consequently, the TTFA’s ability to fund and develop football in Trinidad & Tobago.

We look forward to building a constructive and collaborative relationship with all our national players and would request that, from time to time, should they have a grievance, they take all steps to ensure that it is brought to the attention of those in the TTFA that have the authority to addresses the issue.

We applaud the initiative taken by the players to appoint representatives and look forward to working with those representatives, once they have been duly authorised, in writing, to negotiate on behalf of the players.

We are committed to arriving at an amicable solution as soon as possible.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Jumbie on December 12, 2015, 08:27:31 AM
While disappointing - STAND your ground Cap.. and team. Lets just hope you guys can remain unified.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Quags on December 12, 2015, 10:14:01 AM
Wow interesting response , he's gonna change the pay structure ,have contracts and pay on time, thats cool hopefully he has insurance for the player's also like the best run companies.
So its a verbal contract he's working with , nevertheless he cant say the player's not out of pocket he doesn't know that , and even if he changes the structure ,he should atleast try fix and fulfill the mistakes of the previous administration first before moving on , lest he ruins the working relationships he has with our warriors, if handled without compassion this could spiral out of control .
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: dreamer on December 12, 2015, 10:24:08 AM
Until there is a day that you can go to bank or the grocery with a box of national pride, then I fully support the players.

Kenwyne is standing up for his team, he is being a leader both on and off the pitch.  It is not about the money for him.

I know that there could have been an option for the players to feel out DJW first, but i am sure that if they did, they would have simply received the same promise that they got from the previous TTFA admin.

The timing was perfect.  Copa America qualification is outside of a FIFA date, so no players can be forced to play.  It is also far away from the actual qualifiers in March, which gives enough time for wounds to heal after this "fall out"

Well done Jones

ah love it!!

Sense! Proud of our posters who are getting it.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Peong on December 12, 2015, 11:12:27 AM
Reasonable response by djw.
That's interesting about how the ttfa were still operating with verbal contracts in the post-Jack era.
The fact that Tim-Kee didn't do away with that speaks volumes.
Title: COPA Playoff
Post by: kaliman2006 on December 12, 2015, 12:54:58 PM
This is very interesting discussion guys. Everyone has made some strong and persuasive arguments. However, I am inclined to agree with Bakes. While the new President cannot be completely held blameless in this matter, the approach by Kenwyne Jones and his teammates is unnecessarily hostile and combative to a fledgling dispensation.

As one who has had to contend with dysfunctional managers, I have in fact made the same error as Jones et al made in my less experienced days by being prematurely aggressive in how I voiced my discontent with the status quo.

Even from a purely strategic point of view, Mr. Jones should have at least contacted the new President and documented it, as documentation is a critical facet of business correspondence. That way, it can never be said that he did not try to use every available avenue to resolve this dispute amicably.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Bakes on December 12, 2015, 01:52:11 PM
In the end I won't criticize the players for their choice, I just find it lamentable.  Hopefully there will be movement afoot soon for a Players Association to get off the ground.  Kelvin Jack would be an ideal person to lead that charge, him or Shaka, but he seemingly has more time on his hands these days.  A Players Association would hopefully in future take charge of an emotional situation and lead with a dispassionate response.  Change must start with a collective bargaining agreement which would outline the scope of players' contracts, obligations on both parties, and proposals for avoiding future breakdowns, and solutions in the eventuality that they occur.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Quags on December 12, 2015, 02:09:13 PM
The player's press release got an emergency meeting , out come of meeting they got taken care off at and for the game and they have other jobs .They is nothing on paper about payment and its hard to get gate receipts .
So whats the big diff , between  calling him and the media release , zero it eh look like they getting a dime next week .
I miss Timkee already , he had the good minister on speed dial.
in fact looks like some men gonna get a paycut lol
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: kounty on December 12, 2015, 03:02:14 PM
The new TTFA sound like the old, old TTFF (before this last one) there. Players better get lawyered up this world cup cycle.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: asylumseeker on December 12, 2015, 03:07:16 PM
In the end I won't criticize the players for their choice, I just find it lamentable.  Hopefully there will be movement afoot soon for a Players Association to get off the ground.  Kelvin Jack would be an ideal person to lead that charge, him or Shaka, but he seemingly has more time on his hands these days.  A Players Association would hopefully in future take charge of an emotional situation and lead with a dispassionate response.  Change must start with a collective bargaining agreement which would outline the scope of players' contracts, obligations on both parties, and proposals for avoiding future breakdowns, and solutions in the eventuality that they occur.

Too late. But elegant pivot for a supertanker.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Deeks on December 12, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
The new TTFA sound like the old, old TTFF (before this last one) there. Players better get lawyered up this world cup cycle.

Yes, they better get their own lawyers, seeing that they are unable to form an association to bargain for them. This association was supposed to be formed in 2006 after the WC. Is 2015 going on 16. No players association. I hope they are not expecting the TTFA to do that for them.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Bakes on December 12, 2015, 04:59:44 PM
Too late. But elegant pivot for a supertanker.

Either your eyesight or your comprehension failing you, my position has been consistent all along, and that is that the players acted unreasonably. Never did it rise to the level of criticism.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: coache on December 12, 2015, 09:48:51 PM
...no pay ..no play..

win wid playweh...
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: asylumseeker on December 13, 2015, 11:46:56 PM
Too late. But elegant pivot for a supertanker.

Either your eyesight or your comprehension failing you, my position has been consistent all along, and that is that the players acted unreasonably. Never did it rise to the level of criticism.

Ah eh go deny yuh the narrow, albeit tenuous, refuge yuh trying to locate between "critical" and "criticize". Rest easy.

However, in fairness, I am certain I somewhat conflated your vehement reaction to the women's alleged pre-match match fee protest ... with your comments regarding the MNT's stance on the Copa playoff.

Nonetheless, nuance is not paying the players. Moreover, nuance is only appreciated from a position of comfort. Ah man who eh getting paid eh seeing your 'unreasonable' as much other than second-guessing criticism.


Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Quags on December 14, 2015, 07:08:34 AM
After all those years of trying to get rid of Jack , if now another uncompromising ahole get to be president and disband this team for their own paycheck I might be finish with not only TnT football but TnT sports beside track I.e on the whole .
It just doesn't seem to have proper caretakers down there.
The same thing happened in cricket ,Deryk Murray created a new legacy and he was promptly overtrown by Bassarath and his group , in the following 5 years not one  of the up and coming kids at the time have taken the next step , besides Evin Lewis and he never played for WI .
And that was a golden class.
Just poor management. I eint got no time for that I got my own kids to train.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Flex on December 14, 2015, 07:21:23 AM
Warriors to be paid after TTFA board meeting.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


A decision by new president David John-Williams to allow the board of directors to sit on the matter of the payments of match fees to players for the Guatemala and USA World Cup Qualifiers may have been responsible for the players’ strike.

At least so said national team manager Williams Wallace yesterday.

The players, through a statement from their captain Kenwyne Jones last week, threatened to withdraw their services for the Copa America play-off with Haiti in Panama City in January if outstanding monies are not paid. But Wallace said yesterday that he has been keeping the players abreast of the situation, claiming they agreed initially that the association could not pay for the friendly encounter with Nicaragua at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, on October 13, but would have paid them for the Guatemala and USA matches, which they agreed to. 

The players were to be paid from gate receipts from the USA/T&T match at the stadium, which according to former president of the football association Raymond Tim Kee, was expected to generate approximately $2 million. But to date football association officials are still attempting to collect monies from the ticket outlets, some three weeks after.

Other setbacks include the delivery of a post-dated cheque by a well-known ticket outlet which has confused the association, as well as changes in the signatories at the T&TFA which resulted from the change in administration.

Wallace said this information was communicated to the players. He said when told that the board of directors would have to sit on the issue before payments could be made, the players decided to take action. “They see it as a deliberate attempt to delay the payment,” Wallace said. In the past the involvement of the board of directors on payment of match fees was a no-no.”

The board is expected to meet on Wednesday to address this issue following which cheques will be sent to the players’ accounts. Wallace has given the players the assurance that the monies will be paid and added that he is optimistic that a resolution will be met after the board meeting. He also sought to clear the air on payments owed to the players, saying no monies were owed to the players for the Concacaf Gold Cup but rather for the USA and Guatemala matches.

In a release last week, John-Williams gave the assurance that his association was committed to paying the players. However he expressed concern at the way things were done by the previous administration and questioned why monies from ticket outlets had not yet been collected.

John-Williams said he knew that a promised was made to pay the players on November 19 by the association but that was before he took office. The Guardian later tried to contact John-Williams about the involvement of the board of directors in the payments but calls to his cell phone went unanswered.

Meanwhile national coach Stephen Hart, who had to whisk back home to Canada due to an emergency, said yesterday that he has been in touch with the players about the issue but made it clear he could not tell the players what to do. He said further that the players did not want him involved. Asked if he had been paid, Hart said no.

“I have spoken with John-Williams about my payment and other matters and by Wednesday I will know more about it,” Hart said. It is understood that none of the staff has been paid. 

In an earlier report, former president Raymond Tim Kee said a gentleman’s agreement was made with the players to be paid from the November 17 game against the USA. He said this was normal.

He said when he took office, he met that system. “Because of our debt, we could not offer the players signed contracts since there was no guarantee of payments afterwards, and therefore that could have led to lawsuits,” Tim Kee explained.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: dreamer on December 14, 2015, 10:07:22 AM
Well done Jones & company.
Expecting trust to get better slowly with DJW
Cyah be worse than it was
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: weary1969 on December 14, 2015, 10:32:46 AM
Well done Jones & company.
Expecting trust to get better slowly with DJW
Cyah be worse than it was

Always remember we is the land of the limbo low is very low
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: trini_stallion on December 14, 2015, 04:47:13 PM
This fosters well! Kudos to the new ttfa...and great job again warriors!
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Spursy on December 14, 2015, 04:56:18 PM
It's kind of backwards that the TTFA has to go collect funds. Infact let me make a suggestion. For ticket sales have all the vendors purchase a license or a package of tickets so the funds are instantly collected. In other words sell the tickets to the vendors instead of distributing them and collecting the funds after. The tickets that were not sold can then be returned to TTFA for a full refund.

This kinda backward thing is so inconvenient and gives the TTFA more work to go around collecting funds from stores when the owner is out or in hiding.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: gawd on pitch on December 14, 2015, 07:56:51 PM
It's kind of backwards that the TTFA has to go collect funds. Infact let me make a suggestion. For ticket sales have all the vendors purchase a license or a package of tickets so the funds are instantly collected. In other words sell the tickets to the vendors instead of distributing them and collecting the funds after. The tickets that were not sold can then be returned to TTFA for a full refund.

This kinda backward thing is so inconvenient and gives the TTFA more work to go around collecting funds from stores when the owner is out or in hiding.

They still selling tickets like it is for a fete? Whats the arrangement, sell 4 keep 1? It makes more business sense to strike licensing deals. That's the way to go..
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Flex on December 15, 2015, 03:20:36 AM
Players say new president insensitive.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


Angry Warriors

Recently elected president of the T&T Football Association (TTFA)  David John-Williams has come in for some blows from angry members of the Soca Warriors, who have described him as insensitive.

The players have threatened to withhold their services for the upcoming 2016 Copa America Qualifier against Haiti in Panama City, Panama in January until they are paid monies owed to them for the Gold Cup; an International Friendly with Nicaragua and World Cup Qualifiers against Guatemala and  the USA.

In response to that decision, John-Williams said players received salaries from their clubs while all costs incurred when representing the national team, such as flight, accommodation, meals and sundry expenses were being met by the T&TFA.

The statements have infuriated the players who feel that John-Williams was out of place.

The players, who did not want to be named for fear of victimisation, also took offence to calls by John-Williams for a policy document on players entitlement to match fees, which he described as a serious oversight. The embattled president expressed concerns, saying  “It appears that match fees are not a function of experience, number of appearances at national level, time on the field or category of staff.”

One member explained that the players all want to be paid the same fees. “When we are on the field and a player is in the area with a clear shot at goal, no-one studies if he has been on the field for five or 10 minutes, neither do we wonder about his experience or how many caps he has. All we care about is scoring the goal for our country.”

They are also questioning the necessity for a board of directors meeting to address the issue of the payments. The meeting will be held tomorrow at the TTFA’s office. TTFA officials say the board will determine how much match fees will be paid to each individual.

The players have said that the new president knew what he was getting into when he campaigned for the position of president. “We know the Association has money because we were asked to fill the stadium the day before the Guatemala encounter for us to be paid and that is what happened.

We want to be paid before the expenses are taken care of because these fees can be covered when the TTFA gets funding from corporate T&T,” said one senior member. He added: “The new president came into office promising to get investors so now is the time to do so.”

They are sending a warning that although the players want to represent their country, they are taking a stance at the Haiti match, but they explained that if the matter is not resolved soon, they will look at other means.


Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Sam on December 15, 2015, 03:58:47 AM
David John Williams making Tim Kee look like a king now.

Allyuh watch this fool kill we football slowly and surely.

Why fix something if its not broken?

The players happy with getting de same pay and it working for them, leave it alone, just pay de players.

I thought, they got paid for the gold cup?, ent Tim Kee said he paid them for the Gold Cup games?

This is real shit.

Allyuh watch and see, not even two week on de job and already is commess.

St Lucian Connection go play Haiti next month.

It good for we, they voted for a mad man.

Jan Williams know him very well.

They know he spiteful to.

Title: Footballers, put country before self
Post by: Tallman on December 15, 2015, 05:39:52 AM
Footballers, put country before self
T&T Guardian


I am T&T’s greatest football fan. I passed for football college, Naparima.

I still have in my possession a 1989 Strike Squad jersey and a 1999 replica when Dwight Yorke won the treble with Man U. My allegiance to T&T football can never ever be questioned.

Our decision to opt out of our next international against Haiti on January 8, 2016 is unfortunate and needs to be reconsidered.

Firstly, DJ Williams has now assumed office, congrats to him. He cannot be held responsible and accountable for the past. Do not convict him for the sins others committed in the past. Let us look foward with anticipation and hard work.

Williams’ function is to secure and ensure a bright future for T&T football. I wish him well.

To represent T&T is an honour. Many wish they had that privilege.

Gents, we have a great squad, the more we play the better for us. I know you were promised payment but sometimes in life things happen in extra time.

Look at the price of oil on which our economy is solely dependent. Who are you going to blame? The poor planners?

Let us face it, none of you are hand to mouth. Do not sell yourselves short.

What is the cost to represent T&T? Look at the national support you now enjoy. Supporters travel from Toco and Mayaro to see you play. Such is our love for the game. Please do not deny us that right.

Gents, let us not wash our soiled shorts in the public. The T&T emblem on the front on the jersey is greater than the name on the back.

Together everyone achieves more. Sport unites all.

Come on gents, put country before self. Winning is the only thing.

Russia, ready or not, here we come!

AV Rampersad,
Princes Town
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: pops on December 15, 2015, 05:51:40 AM
Sam that's a very ignorant statement. First of all why are you letting your personal dislike for John Williams cloud how you judge the new man in charge of football. It's like a Republican disliking Obama from the very start and never praising him independent of what he does. But moving on, what has John Williams done wrong. A structured match fee system is standard throughout the world. Starting 11's get more money, a win is more money than a lost. That is how it is all over the world, and how it should be. The previous TTFA administration was disorganized and understandably disliked by the players. If you were contented with that it just shows how you are both prepared to settle and satisfied with mediocrity. I wish John Williams well even thought I wanted someone else to be the new TTFA president, but I see nothing wrong with what he has suggested. Structuring our match fee system is must and the previous administration have failed badly with paying staff and players. It was under Tim Kee the USA game was played. Where are the match fees and the sponsorship fees from that encounter? I applaud John Williams and all other candidates for stepping up to the plate to try to fix the mess the former administration caused. The funniest line of what you wrote was "Why fix something if it is not broken?" for a man that comes to the site everyday that is so so sad for you to type. Not broken?? Football administration in Trinidad and Tobago, has been embarrassing to say the least.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Socapro on December 15, 2015, 06:15:38 AM
Sam that's a very ignorant statement. First of all why are you letting your personal dislike for John Williams cloud how you judge the new man in charge of football. It's like a Republican disliking Obama from the very start and never praising him independent of what he does. But moving on, what has John Williams done wrong. A structured match fee system is standard throughout the world. Starting 11's get more money, a win is more money than a lost. That is how it is all over the world, and how it should be. The previous TTFA administration was disorganized and understandably disliked by the players. If you were contented with that it just shows how you are both prepared to settle and satisfied with mediocrity. I wish John Williams well even thought I wanted someone else to be the new TTFA president, but I see nothing wrong with what he has suggested. Structuring our match fee system is must and the previous administration have failed badly with paying staff and players. It was under Tim Kee the USA game was played. Where are the match fees and the sponsorship fees from that encounter? I applaud John Williams and all other candidates for stepping up to the plate to try to fix the mess the former administration caused. The funniest line of what you wrote was "Why fix something if it is not broken?" for a man that comes to the site everyday that is so so sad for you to type. Not broken?? Football administration in Trinidad and Tobago, has been embarrassing to say the least.
:beermug:
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Sam on December 15, 2015, 06:54:45 AM
Sam that's a very ignorant statement. First of all why are you letting your personal dislike for John Williams cloud how you judge the new man in charge of football. It's like a Republican disliking Obama from the very start and never praising him independent of what he does. But moving on, what has John Williams done wrong. A structured match fee system is standard throughout the world. Starting 11's get more money, a win is more money than a lost. That is how it is all over the world, and how it should be. The previous TTFA administration was disorganized and understandably disliked by the players. If you were contented with that it just shows how you are both prepared to settle and satisfied with mediocrity. I wish John Williams well even thought I wanted someone else to be the new TTFA president, but I see nothing wrong with what he has suggested. Structuring our match fee system is must and the previous administration have failed badly with paying staff and players. It was under Tim Kee the USA game was played. Where are the match fees and the sponsorship fees from that encounter? I applaud John Williams and all other candidates for stepping up to the plate to try to fix the mess the former administration caused. The funniest line of what you wrote was "Why fix something if it is not broken?" for a man that comes to the site everyday that is so so sad for you to type. Not broken?? Football administration in Trinidad and Tobago, has been embarrassing to say the least.

Pops, I hear yuh.

DJW have nothing to do with players not getting they pay for past games under Tim Kee.

But he is here now, he knows what he was getting into, why this have to reach this far?

Pay the guys and the ladies, first thing he should do, because this negative news will affect sponsors.

The players dont trust him, he need to call a meeting and clear somethings up.

And I was talking about not broken as far as PAY SCALE goes, de players was happy with it, it seem so?

A pay structure is a good idea, but now you have a man getting,,, leh we say 800 US a game and now because he only played 10 games for T&T, he drop down to 200, how yuh think de man go feel?

If de structure is a good one, then yea, maybe it might work.

But you can tell from de article, de players not happy about it because they know DJW very well, he go pinch every dime and under pay them.

Look, ah hope de man prove me wrong, he really cant be worst than Tim Kee.

We go see.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: andre samuel on December 15, 2015, 10:29:58 AM
The report in the Newsday concerns me greatly. 

I can see some players fighting down progress.  We need a payment structure.  A clear policy with clear guidelines so as to prevent any ambiguity.  The players want respect and for their livelihood to be treated like a profession, but dont want to be paid based on their experience. 

In many other sports, the payment structure is based on caps and performance bonuses. 

Dammed if you do and dammed if you dont. 

Sam, your post is a horrible one.  If it aint broken? dont fix it? If it wasnt broken, then why are these problems happening?  You want "word of mouth" agreements to continue in this day and age?

We need everyone to sit down and come up with a structure that benefits all parties.  That player who made that statement cannot be serious.  Lets wait and see what the proposals are before we carry on with uninformed opinions. 

Also, your constant St Lucia reference is getting old, give DJW a chance nah.


Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: kounty on December 15, 2015, 10:50:35 AM
it was clear to me that Sam was talking about the pay structure (more for players with more caps etc) being the 'not broken' thing. I with the unnamed player - I think the one thing this team have going for it is togetherness, equality, respect for each other (even men off the bench step up and trusted as equal) and I don't think some graduated pay structure would help that. If anybody get a chance to interview Hart ask him his opinion please.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Bakes on December 15, 2015, 11:15:11 AM
it was clear to me that Sam was talking about the pay structure (more for players with more caps etc) being the 'not broken' thing. I with the unnamed player - I think the one thing this team have going for it is togetherness, equality, respect for each other (even men off the bench step up and trusted as equal) and I don't think some graduated pay structure would help that. If anybody get a chance to interview Hart ask him his opinion please.

Yuh right, but that shouldn't be a consideration.  Just because the players comfortable with the status quo doesn't mean the status quo doesn't need to be changed.  As has been pointed out, this is the international standard.  This was recently sent to me by someone who knows a great deal more than everyone of us here when it comes to football:


Quote
England players match fees/Bonuses:

English FA has installed a match fee and competition winning bonus system to
compensate players in the national team setup. English FA usually pay England players around

1. £1500 for winning a match qualifier/friendlies

2. £1000 for a draw

3. £500 for a defeat.

While for competition likes World Cup and Euro Championship basic match fees goes up plus a certain bonus for every player incase England wins the competition. For example during 2014 FIFA World Cup English FA paid £2,500 for every match a player started the game while rest of the squad pocketed £1,500 for every game regardless of playing in the game or not. Plus there was a hefty bonus (£650,000) for each squad member if England were to win the world cup.

This article (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/euro2012/article-2153865/Euro-2012-England-set-100k-bonus.html) also discusses the issue in some detail.

The simple point is that from a business standpoint it makes sense to have a graduated compensation structure rather than a flat one.  No business pays all of its employees the same, even when they're doing the 'same' job.  Experience and expertise are factored into the equation.  We keep clamoring for the TTFA to be governed by sound principles... that we want it "run like a business"... but then we complain when steps are taken in that direction.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Tallman on December 15, 2015, 05:25:21 PM
Here is how the US does it:

Under the CBA signed in 2011, U.S. players’ income from friendlies depends on the result of the game (win, tie or loss) and the quality of the opponent (FIFA top 10 plus Mexico, FIFA top 11 thru 25, or below No. 25 in the FIFA rankings). For any type of friendly loss, each player on the gameday roster receives $4,000 in this quadrennium and $5,000 in the next quadrennium.

Friendly ties against a team ranked in the FIFA top 10 and Mexico bring $6,500 per player, while any other tie brings $5,000.

Friendly wins herald compensation of $14,100 per player (for victories against the FIFA top 10 and Mexico) instead of the $4,000 for a loss; $10,000 (against FIFA No. 11 thru No. 25 teams); and $7,500 (against teams ranked below No. 25). With Azerbaijan, Turkey and Nigeria all ranked lower than No. 25 in the current FIFA rankings, players on the U.S. gameday roster for each of those games will receive $4,000 for a loss, $5,000 for a tie and $7,500 for a win.

Players who are in camp but don’t make the gameday roster earn $1,500 per friendly.

READ How much is a roster spot worth for U.S. players in Brazil? (http://www.si.com/soccer/planet-futbol/2014/05/20/world-cup-usa-usmnt-player-bonuses-money-ussf) for more details.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: coache on December 15, 2015, 08:48:24 PM
Sam doh like me I doh like Sam but Sam is talking the truth.

Allyuh voted for the most self centered person to be in charge...something is wrong wid Trinidad people...

I am saying it again...John Wlliams will get rid of Hart by making him very uncomfortable...then he will put his man to run things and then open the doors for capping W Connection players..

All de Naps people feel John Williams is a God ...de man looks only after his own interests....right now the National Team is his interest...

Since when a wicked man like John Williams suddenly decides to give up making profit for doing yeoman service to his country...how could a viper be viper in the morning and something other than a viper in the evening?
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Quags on December 15, 2015, 09:16:13 PM
Who are these board members that JDW meeting tomorrow , if any body know plz.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Preacher on December 15, 2015, 10:38:24 PM
Sam doh like me I doh like Sam but Sam is talking the truth.

Allyuh voted for the most self centered person to be in charge...something is wrong wid Trinidad people...

I am saying it again...John Wlliams will get rid of Hart by making him very uncomfortable...then he will put his man to run things and then open the doors for capping W Connection players..

All de Naps people feel John Williams is a God ...de man looks only after his own interests....right now the National Team is his interest...

Since when a wicked man like John Williams suddenly decides to give up making profit for doing yeoman service to his country...how could a viper be viper in the morning and something other than a viper in the evening?

Coache...  I saw this coming.  I held my tongue and hoped for the best.  Bottom line our football have to much bad mind in it and very little common sense.  To me there was nothing wrong with Tim Kee's record.  The football had it's challenges but was on the up.  At least the players felt the situation was workable.  Just from hearing him talk you could tell this fella to eager and have to much leadership struggles. 
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 16, 2015, 12:40:57 AM
Sam doh like me I doh like Sam but Sam is talking the truth.

Allyuh voted for the most self centered person to be in charge...something is wrong wid Trinidad people...

I am saying it again...John Wlliams will get rid of Hart by making him very uncomfortable...then he will put his man to run things and then open the doors for capping W Connection players..

All de Naps people feel John Williams is a God ...de man looks only after his own interests....right now the National Team is his interest...

Since when a wicked man like John Williams suddenly decides to give up making profit for doing yeoman service to his country...how could a viper be viper in the morning and something other than a viper in the evening?

Coache...  I saw this coming.  I held my tongue and hoped for the best.  Bottom line our football have to much bad mind in it and very little common sense.  To me there was nothing wrong with Tim Kee's record.  The football had it's challenges but was on the up.  At least the players felt the situation was workable.  Just from hearing him talk you could tell this fella to eager and have to much leadership struggles. 


I warned men about Tim kee and I believe this man is worse... David John Williams cannot be trusted... He will not benefit our football

When he was elected, it was a sad day for Trinidad and Tobago football, I would have rather Tim kee, the man I'm not fond of to stay instead..

Imagine not even 2 weeks David in the office and the players call a strike... Let's see if David resolve the issue and allow Hart and the team to play the copa..

If he doesn't resolve, it's because he has an ulterior motive and an agenda, a selfish one at that..
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: dreamer on December 16, 2015, 12:49:41 AM
Easy Contro, easy ... Doh panic.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Preacher on December 16, 2015, 12:59:20 AM
Sam doh like me I doh like Sam but Sam is talking the truth.

Allyuh voted for the most self centered person to be in charge...something is wrong wid Trinidad people...

I am saying it again...John Wlliams will get rid of Hart by making him very uncomfortable...then he will put his man to run things and then open the doors for capping W Connection players..

All de Naps people feel John Williams is a God ...de man looks only after his own interests....right now the National Team is his interest...

Since when a wicked man like John Williams suddenly decides to give up making profit for doing yeoman service to his country...how could a viper be viper in the morning and something other than a viper in the evening?

Coache...  I saw this coming.  I held my tongue and hoped for the best.  Bottom line our football have to much bad mind in it and very little common sense.  To me there was nothing wrong with Tim Kee's record.  The football had it's challenges but was on the up.  At least the players felt the situation was workable.  Just from hearing him talk you could tell this fella to eager and have to much leadership struggles. 


I warned men about Tim kee and I believe this man is worse... David John Williams cannot be trusted... He will not benefit our football

When he was elected, it was a sad day for Trinidad and Tobago football, I would have rather Tim kee, the man I'm not fond of to stay instead..

Imagine not even 2 weeks David in the office and the players call a strike... Let's see if David resolve the issue and allow Hart and the team to play the copa..

If he doesn't resolve, it's because he has an ulterior motive and an agenda, a selfish one at that..

Contro imagine you gone and do a wuk by a man house and when it's time to pay he's upset with you because he knows of other monies you get for doing a job for someone else, which is none of his business.   :frustrated:  Can't deal with the shame. 
Title: Angry Soca Warrior players call David John Williams Insensitive
Post by: Controversial on December 16, 2015, 01:02:02 AM
Angry Warriors...

By Walter Alibey

Recently elected president of the T&T Football Association (TTFA)  David John-Williams has come in for some blows from angry members of the Soca Warriors, who have described him as insensitive.

The players have threatened to withhold their services for the upcoming 2016 Copa America Qualifier against Haiti in Panama City, Panama in January until they are paid monies owed to them for the Gold Cup; an International Friendly with Nicaragua and World Cup Qualifiers against Guatemala and  the USA.

In response to that decision, John-Williams said players received salaries from their clubs while all costs incurred when representing the national team, such as flight, accommodation, meals and sundry expenses were being met by the T&TFA.

The statements have infuriated the players who feel that John-Williams was out of place.

The players, who did not want to be named for fear of victimisation, also took offence to calls by John-Williams for a policy document on players entitlement to match fees, which he described as a serious oversight. The embattled president expressed concerns, saying  “It appears that match fees are not a function of experience, number of appearances at national level, time on the field or category of staff.”

One member explained that the players all want to be paid the same fees. “When we are on the field and a player is in the area with a clear shot at goal, no-one studies if he has been on the field for five or 10 minutes, neither do we wonder about his experience or how many caps he has. All we care about is scoring the goal for our country.”

They are also questioning the necessity for a board of directors meeting to address the issue of the payments. The meeting will be held tomorrow at the TTFA’s office. TTFA officials say the board will determine how much match fees will be paid to each individual.

The players have said that the new president knew what he was getting into when he campaigned for the position of president. “We know the Association has money because we were asked to fill the stadium the day before the Guatemala encounter for us to be paid and that is what happened.

We want to be paid before the expenses are taken care of because these fees can be covered when the TTFA gets funding from corporate T&T,” said one senior member. He added: “The new president came into office promising to get investors so now is the time to do so.”

They are sending a warning that although the players want to represent their country, they are taking a stance at the Haiti match, but they explained that if the matter is not resolved soon, they will look at other means.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/sport/2015-12-15/angry-warriors (http://www.guardian.co.tt/sport/2015-12-15/angry-warriors)


So said, so done... I warned people on the board about this man and what he would do... He is already creating tension with the senior players and disrupting the senior program with his own selfish ambitions...

David John Williams needs to be removed immediately ... His next move since we are ranked under 50 is to replace Hart and the players, so that he can get the transfers for his players and have his daughter pocket the money, using the national team a springboard for connection.. Some men real blind ...

I warned the idiots on here about him, but people's heads are too hard...
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 16, 2015, 01:09:07 AM
Easy Contro, easy ... Doh panic.

Boss did you see the new article printed in the guardian about an hour ago?
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 16, 2015, 01:11:37 AM
Sam doh like me I doh like Sam but Sam is talking the truth.

Allyuh voted for the most self centered person to be in charge...something is wrong wid Trinidad people...

I am saying it again...John Wlliams will get rid of Hart by making him very uncomfortable...then he will put his man to run things and then open the doors for capping W Connection players..

All de Naps people feel John Williams is a God ...de man looks only after his own interests....right now the National Team is his interest...

Since when a wicked man like John Williams suddenly decides to give up making profit for doing yeoman service to his country...how could a viper be viper in the morning and something other than a viper in the evening?

Coache...  I saw this coming.  I held my tongue and hoped for the best.  Bottom line our football have to much bad mind in it and very little common sense.  To me there was nothing wrong with Tim Kee's record.  The football had it's challenges but was on the up.  At least the players felt the situation was workable.  Just from hearing him talk you could tell this fella to eager and have to much leadership struggles. 


I warned men about Tim kee and I believe this man is worse... David John Williams cannot be trusted... He will not benefit our football

When he was elected, it was a sad day for Trinidad and Tobago football, I would have rather Tim kee, the man I'm not fond of to stay instead..

Imagine not even 2 weeks David in the office and the players call a strike... Let's see if David resolve the issue and allow Hart and the team to play the copa..

If he doesn't resolve, it's because he has an ulterior motive and an agenda, a selfish one at that..

Contro imagine you gone and do a wuk by a man house and when it's time to pay he's upset with you because he knows of other monies you get for doing a job for someone else, which is none of his business.   :frustrated:  Can't deal with the shame. 

Family the Trinidad Guardian just posted an article on David John creating a feud with the players... This is setting up his takeover and removing hart and replacing the players with connection players

Here the height of the scheme now, since we are under 50 in the Fifa rankings, he will use the national team as a spring board for his players and get his daughter to collect the money for him with transfers and so forth..

David John Williams was neve about national football, he's about himself .. You can't trust him
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Flex on December 16, 2015, 02:53:47 AM
TTFA Board to discuss players’ strike today.
By Joel Bailey (Newsday).


THE TRINIDAD and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) Board of Directors are expected to meet today, at the TTFA offices, located at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Mucurapo, to discuss the current player strike issue.

On Thursday, the national squad, via a media release sent by captain Kenwyne Jones, expressed their desire to skip the forthcoming Copa America Centenario qualifying play-offs, which will take place in Panama City, Panama on January 8, until their outstanding match fees were paid.

And team vice-captain Jan-Michael Williams, in a brief telephone interview yesterday, pointed out, “it was agreed for the guys not to say anything, no response until we see what’s going on.” Concerning today’s meeting, Williams noted, “we have a lot of things that we need in terms of the national (men’s) team (which) we have outlined in the press release that we sent. We’re just waiting until we see where they’re heading in terms of everything that we’ve outlined.” However, the TTFA is yet to withdraw the national men’s football team from participating in the Copa America Centenario qualifying play-offs.

David John-Williams, president of the TTFA, noted in a telephone interview that “I haven’t had any such questions” regarding if the TTFA has officially pulled out from the Copa America qualifiers.

Trinidad and Tobago are scheduled to face Haiti in one of two matches on the day, at the aforementioned venue, with hosts Panama due to meet Cuba in the other contest. The winners of both games will advance to the 16-team Copa America Centenario, which will be staged in the United States from June 3-26.

Referring to a media release issued by the TTFA on Friday evening, John-Williams pointed out, that is as much as we will say with regards to that matter until we have something further to put out. The matter has been ventilated in the public already and that is as much as we will say at this time. Until we have something further to say, it remains that way.”

John-Williams went on to state, “the players said they’re not playing until they get paid so you never know what could work out between now and then. If the players get paid in the morning, I guess the strike is off. If they come and get paid on the 27th, I guess the strike is off. That’s as much as we can say at this point in time.”

Asked if the Ministry of Sport, the Sport Company of Trinidad and Tobago (SPoRTT ) or corporate sponsors will help offset the payment to the national men’s team, John-Williams replied, “I cannot say anything on that matter until something happens. The Board meets on Wednesday (today). If we have anything coming out of that Board meeting, we’ll certainly let (the public) know. If nothing comes out, I would certainly let (it be known) also.”

The Board of Directors comprises Samuel Saunders, Sherwin Dyer, Richard Quan Chan, Karanjabari Williams, Anthony Moore, Joseph Taylor, Dexter Skeene and Sharon O’Brien.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: weary1969 on December 16, 2015, 08:09:31 AM
Sam doh like me I doh like Sam but Sam is talking the truth.

Allyuh voted for the most self centered person to be in charge...something is wrong wid Trinidad people...

I am saying it again...John Wlliams will get rid of Hart by making him very uncomfortable...then he will put his man to run things and then open the doors for capping W Connection players..

All de Naps people feel John Williams is a God ...de man looks only after his own interests....right now the National Team is his interest...

Since when a wicked man like John Williams suddenly decides to give up making profit for doing yeoman service to his country...how could a viper be viper in the morning and something other than a viper in the evening?

People vote for Kamla yuh still surprise bout our people?
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Sam on December 17, 2015, 07:31:04 AM
Like DJW f00ck them, how we eh hearing no news yet?

Yuh know he does keep everything a secret and if players talk he go blacklist them.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: andre samuel on December 17, 2015, 08:26:22 AM
Why is 3 weeks of DJW being compared to 4 years of Tim Kee?
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: dreamer on December 17, 2015, 08:49:30 AM
Why is 3 weeks of DJW being compared to 4 years of Tim Kee?

I think Sam is very nervous & worried. No money. Audit not done. Nobody knows how bad it really is. PFL on verge of shutting down. Panic setting in .... But iz not just him worrying
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Sam on December 17, 2015, 09:34:05 AM
Why is 3 weeks of DJW being compared to 4 years of Tim Kee?

Tim Kee f00ck we up real good.

But DJW not letting de public know whats going on.

And he have the money to pay the players.

De team doing good, more money will come.

Once they made it to de Copa America they will get 1 million US.

Come man, pay de fellas.

In de long run it go pay off.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Flex on December 17, 2015, 02:45:47 PM
TTFA to meet players’ representatives.
TTFA Media.


The new administration of the Trinidad & Tobago Football Association held its first Board meeting yesterday. The Board had to address many pressing issues arising from the poor financial health of the Association, as mentioned previously, and lack of documentation.

The most critical issue the Board focused on was the stance taken by the National Senior Team (Men). The players, frustrated by the delay in receiving match fees that they were promised under a ‘Gentleman’s Agreement’ by the previous administration, announced that they will not participate in the COPA America qualifying match scheduled for January 8, 2016 in Panama City.

In recognition of the urgency of this matter the Board has mandated a three-person committee comprising of board members (Ms. Joanne Salazar, Mr. Samuel Saunders and Mr. Ewing Davis), to meet with the players’ representatives and negotiate a way forward.

The Board has given the committee a clear mandate with instructions to resolve the matter as soon as possible. To this end we communicated with the identified players’ representatives (Team Captain Kenwyne Jones and Vice Captain Jan Michael Williams) last evening.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: dreamer on December 17, 2015, 08:52:31 PM
Promising. Better than what Jackulito or Uncle Tim would do
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Flex on December 18, 2015, 04:15:23 AM
More money worries for Warriors.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


T&T’s Soca Warriors will not be playing the Copa America play-off against Haiti in January as the confrontation between the Football Association (TTFA) and the national players heightened yesterday.

The Warriors have been calling for match fees for participation in several matches including the Concacaf Gold Cup, an international friendly against Nicaragua and World Cup qualifiers against Guatemala and the United States in November.

Several promises, including payments from gate receipts following the match against the United States in November have not been kept and statements from the recently elected president David John - Williams have left a sour taste in the mouths of the players.

John- Williams’ decision to discuss the match fees at Wednesday’s board meeting was seen as a delaying tactic and the announcement yesterday that a three-man committee has been appointed to resolve the issue, has again been cited as another move to frustrate the players.

“The president has already painted us as greedy men, chasing after money which the Association does not have,” said one player, “But it seems to us that he is simply bent on frustrating us and pushing us in a corner. What we are asking for is what is due  to us. We simply do not understand why there is a need to have a committee to give us what is rightfully due to us.”

 The three members of the committee are Joanne Salazar, Samuel Saunders and ex-Secondary Schools Football League president Ewing Davis. They were selected at Wednesday night’s Board meeting and  mandated to resolve the matter as soon as possible.

Contacted yesterday, goalkeeper Jan Michael-Williams said the country will suffer the consequences if the players are not paid their match fees. He said this was likely to affect   the World Cup qualifiers. Michael-Williams said the president knew about the situation before he took office on November 29.

“If they feel to pay the money they will pay, but if they feel not to pay I can tell you that the entire country will suffer as the players will not take the field in the coming World Cup qualifiers,” the goalkeeper said.

Under coach Stephen Hart, the country appears on the way to securing a spot at the World Cup in Russia 2018, a four points from two matches to date from a victory against Guatemala and a draw against the USA.

They will next face the first match against St Vincent and the Grenadines in March. Michael-Williams said no player has been contacted by any member of the committee. “We will listened to what the committee has to say when they meet but it is having a negative effect on us. And that is not right for the country.”

Attempts to contact John-Williams proved futile.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Quags on December 18, 2015, 07:29:17 AM
Well its Friday and not a check cut , he set up a committee one week before Christmas , I wonder if DJW and his board getting a paycheck today ? Sure they get the gate monies by now .
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: sjahrain on December 18, 2015, 08:43:04 AM
The new emperor is showing the colour of his underwear
Jokes.... :devil:
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: dreamer on December 18, 2015, 09:39:43 AM
Stand yuh ground Jan. I mean it.
Tell the TTFA to eff off. This exploitation must end. They looking for you to blink first. Open yuh eye big like Brigo and watch dem in dey face
The footballers by themselves cyah be shouldering the responsibility of keeping these crooks in the TTFA honest. 
The fans and the whole country must take stock of the ugliness made endemic in the kingdom of Jackulito.
We must all suffer together or do some intervention together instead of riding your backs like leaches on a donkey.
Your sacrifice will liberate others coming after, from unending exploitation
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 18, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
Exactly like I said, you cannot trust DJW...
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: trini_stallion on December 18, 2015, 11:09:09 AM
This is so very unfortunate. As a fan I am both happy that our warriors are making a stance, but at the same time what an opportunity it would have been for our warriors to showcase their talent on a world stage against the best in concacaf and South America. Somethings gotta give...come in DJW...enlighten the fans, why are you so mum on the subject!?
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: soccerman on December 18, 2015, 11:41:19 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but if we qualify for the COPA will our federation get $1 million US?
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Deeks on December 18, 2015, 11:42:20 AM
This is so very unfortunate. As a fan I am both happy that our warriors are making a stance, but at the same time what an opportunity it would have been for our warriors to showcase their talent on a world stage against the best in concacaf and South America. Somethings gotta give...come in DJW...enlighten the fans, why are you so mum on the subject!?

He is mum because he don't have or is unable to get money.  I stated before, anyone running for the post must have access to lots of money. They can present all their wifi internet portfolio and talk all the business acumen. First and foremost, "you have money? ". Apparently DJW does not have the amount to bailout the TTFA. If this "successful" businessman cannot handle the short term fiscal issue of the TTFA, he is a waste. He has 8 national teams to deal with. He knew this when he was applying for the job. So find the money David.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: asylumseeker on December 18, 2015, 11:48:35 AM
This is so very unfortunate. As a fan I am both happy that our warriors are making a stance, but at the same time what an opportunity it would have been for our warriors to showcase their talent on a world stage against the best in concacaf and South America. Somethings gotta give...come in DJW...enlighten the fans, why are you so mum on the subject!?

He is mum because he don't have or is unable to get money.  I stated before, anyone running for the post must have access to lots of money. They can present all their wifi internet portfolio and talk all the business acumen. First and foremost, "you have money? ". Apparently DJW does not have the amount to bailout the TTFA. If this "successful" businessman cannot handle the short term fiscal issue of the TTFA, he is a waste. He has 8 national teams to deal with. He knew this when he was applying for the job. So find the money David.

Pay them from his own pocket iz wha yuh saying?
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: trini_stallion on December 18, 2015, 11:51:53 AM
This is so very unfortunate. As a fan I am both happy that our warriors are making a stance, but at the same time what an opportunity it would have been for our warriors to showcase their talent on a world stage against the best in concacaf and South America. Somethings gotta give...come in DJW...enlighten the fans, why are you so mum on the subject!?

He is mum because he don't have or is unable to get money.  I stated before, anyone running for the post must have access to lots of money. They can present all their wifi internet portfolio and talk all the business acumen. First and foremost, "you have money? ". Apparently DJW does not have the amount to bailout the TTFA. If this "successful" businessman cannot handle the short term fiscal issue of the TTFA, he is a waste. He has 8 national teams to deal with. He knew when he was applying for the job. So find the money David.

I concur, he knew the state of affairs was very deplorable. Ok so you just do not have the money...but as a responsible leader it would behoove him to enlighten the public to his plans, and his proposed negotiations which have been apparently declined by our warriors. The Honorable PM disclosed to the nation that hard times are ahead, and made public his path forward...that is leadership. Mr. DJW, this was your first real test of leadership, and you have failed. Unfortunately this does not foster well for the future, and it appears that you have left a sour taste in the minds of our warriors...and to a further extent the fans.

In nutshell as a fan, me personally would have just liked some communication...hey this is what we proposed, these are the reasons, unfortunately it wasn't accepted, this is the next step...FAIL!
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Deeks on December 18, 2015, 12:25:52 PM
This is so very unfortunate. As a fan I am both happy that our warriors are making a stance, but at the same time what an opportunity it would have been for our warriors to showcase their talent on a world stage against the best in concacaf and South America. Somethings gotta give...come in DJW...enlighten the fans, why are you so mum on the subject!?

He is mum because he don't have or is unable to get money.  I stated before, anyone running for the post must have access to lots of money. They can present all their wifi internet portfolio and talk all the business acumen. First and foremost, "you have money? ". Apparently DJW does not have the amount to bailout the TTFA. If this "successful" businessman cannot handle the short term fiscal issue of the TTFA, he is a waste. He has 8 national teams to deal with. He knew this when he was applying for the job. So find the money David.

Pay them from his own pocket iz wha yuh saying?

That is a possibility. Or go to the business community and use the business acumen he presented on his campaign to get the money. What else is there to do? We know the situation with the government. Right now it is only the business community or very rich Trinis in foreign who could pull we out of this mess. Most of the candidates from the just past election, is some form or the other, presented themselves as been able to resolve the TTFA fiscal problems by working close with the business community and government. Well government cut money for carnival. They had to borrow to pay public workers. What else? Let's see if he can live up to the hype.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Deeks on December 18, 2015, 12:32:31 PM
It would be disheartening to see this opportunity to qualify for this tournament slip away. I know people would want to blame KJ and company. But the time is now. Settle it once and for all. The other option is to send a second string team and hope. But that in itself will open another can of worms, especially if they were to qualify.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Coach on December 18, 2015, 12:58:43 PM
Hope something can be worked out to participate, it will be excellent exposure for the world to see TT can compete at a high level and our participation will be very motivating for our young players!
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: sjahrain on December 18, 2015, 07:21:32 PM
Three VP's were elected I wonder what purpose they serve
In these times I would think Collin Murray and Aboud could be of great value
As it's said when the leaders have no vision the people perish,this shit is so sad it's sickening
To much friend friend
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: dreamer on December 18, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
Being sickened to the point of being nauseated on a large scale is what it will take to galvanize the public and then the stakeholders into action to force change
So therefore we need to be actually sickened some more. Therefore another week of efferies before any serious national discussion on the impasse.
Then too late for visas for some to go Panama or some tata of the sort. Well done TTFA.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Deeks on December 18, 2015, 10:34:59 PM
Being sickened to the point of being nauseated on a large scale is what it will take to galvanize the public and then the stakeholders into action to force change
So therefore we need to be actually sickened some more. Therefore another week of efferies before any serious national discussion on the impasse.
Then too late for visas for some to go Panama or some tata of the sort. Well done TTFA.

Breds, take it from me, getting sick is a waste of time. 
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: gawd on pitch on December 18, 2015, 10:36:13 PM
Being sickened to the point of being nauseated on a large scale is what it will take to galvanize the public and then the stakeholders into action to force change
So therefore we need to be actually sickened some more. Therefore another week of efferies before any serious national discussion on the impasse.
Then too late for visas for some to go Panama or some tata of the sort. Well done TTFA.

I was thinking the same thing. After doing some research, I found out that there are no visa requirements for Trinbagonians traveling to Panama. Panama grants Trinbagonians free visa access.. So whatever prevents us from going will be something much more bureaucratic than that.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Jumbie on December 18, 2015, 11:04:32 PM
Quote

Pay them from his own pocket iz wha yuh saying?

kinda puzzling indeed. we cannot expect the Pres to foot the bill/s from his pocket. The role is pres, not financier (anyone see Austin?).


Pres, let us believe in you.. sort this out asap and treat the players + fans with some much needed respect as we move forward.

 
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: sjahrain on December 19, 2015, 10:51:32 AM
The time is ripe for us the suffering fans to come together and own the Warriors,using the Green Bay Packers as our model
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Spursy on December 19, 2015, 12:36:20 PM
PNM looking good boyz  :beermug:
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Deeks on December 19, 2015, 12:44:38 PM
PNM looking good boyz  :beermug:

Care to explain?
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: MEP on December 19, 2015, 04:48:26 PM
The time is ripe for us the suffering fans to come together and own the Warriors,using the Green Bay Packers as our model
one cannot own a national team.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: MEP on December 19, 2015, 04:57:56 PM
why should he bail out the TTFA???? that "financial" structure was created by jack to ensure that he maintained control over the TTFA. Players have to be paid yes but I don't think it's an appropriate time to threaten a strike.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Flex on December 19, 2015, 05:08:16 PM
The time is ripe for us the suffering fans to come together and own the Warriors,using the Green Bay Packers as our model

We get 200 dollars total for the needy kids in T&T, how much you feel any T&T fans putting up to do anything?

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: weary1969 on December 19, 2015, 05:35:20 PM
The time is ripe for us the suffering fans to come together and own the Warriors,using the Green Bay Packers as our model

We get 200 dollars total for the needy kids in T&T, how much you feel any T&T fans putting up to do anything?



 :beermug:
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: sjahrain on December 19, 2015, 05:50:16 PM
It's the national team....how can we not own it...it's already ours.....our tax dollars support it how come we do not own it.....think about it some more
Flex there lies the problem we just talk.....change must come from the ground otherwise we are STUCK just right where we are
As long as I care to entertain this shit has existed,where the institution has been pan handling with the government being its biggest benefactor and the truth is that never changed,does anyone think in the current constraints in which the current administration has found itself that money to support all levels of football will be forthcoming...think again
This situation requires some fresh thinking
Knock me all is well
Rastafari
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: pull stones on December 19, 2015, 07:25:26 PM
this is why i was so disappointed when this connection man won the election. i came here to see people congratulating him on his victory, but little did they know that this man did not come here to improve football in trinidad and tobago.

from the minute it was announced i said to myself this is another five or more years of sets back and suffering after we have come so bloody far. trinidadians sure knows how to spoil a party.

for the first time since the england game we have managed to full the HCS stadium to capacity, and just when the fans were beginning to regain confidence in football, here comes this googly eyed man to set us back another few years.

john david williams best be careful and thread lightly and try to resolve this problem as quick as possible without fanfare, before he fall on his own sword like brent sancho. nuff said.

Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: sjahrain on December 21, 2015, 06:51:16 PM
Like this gone off the boil or things happening behind the scenes
Any sound on who the secretary is or will be
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: royal on December 22, 2015, 05:01:58 AM
Discussions between the TTFA and senior men's team players’ representatives
TTFA Media.


Following lengthy discussions between the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association and the National Senior Men’s Team Players’ Representatives, a way forward has been agreed.

The TTFA would like to thank the Players representatives for their candour and maturity in the conduct of these difficult discussions. They fully appreciated the state of the Association and demonstrated, in a very tangible way, their concern for the development and sustainability of the local game.

All parties undertook to respect the sensitivity of the matters under discussion and therefore we will not be putting the details of what was agreed in the public domain.

As stated previously, the TTFA will develop and consult on a policy that addresses the entitlement to, computation and timely payment of match fees so that a similar situation does not arise again.

There are a number of concerns raised by the players which we have undertaken to address immediately. The new administration at the TTFA looks forward to a very meaningful discussion and, most importantly, a swift conclusion.

The TTFA would like to take this opportunity to express its appreciation for the confidentiality in which these discussions were conducted.

All parties regard the matter of match fees for past games as closed. Stephen Hart, the Senior Team Head Coach, now has the opportunity to select the best possible team from the players available for the COPA America qualifier versus Haiti in Panama City on January 8, 2016.

Mr Hart will subsequently announce his 23-man squad in the coming days prior to the start of a live-in training camp in Trinidad starting on December 27th

Press Release Issued by the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association on December 22nd, 2015.

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Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: trini_stallion on December 22, 2015, 07:12:42 AM
Good morning brothers and sisters, I found out from a very good source that the TTFA paid the players A PORTION of the fees owes, and the players as per the article have agreed to play the match!

Good news overall and the tone for the future has been set (hopefully)
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 22, 2015, 10:56:27 AM
Thank God for that... Best news thus far...
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: dreamer on December 22, 2015, 11:42:32 AM
That's right Contro. TTFA as usual was lookin'' to see who would blink and the Warriors gave them the Brigo look.
TTFA probably did some blinking when they saw that they could not divide the Warriors and building rage :pissedoff: from Flex, Tallman, Sam and others. ;D
Good arrangement. Happy for everybody. Players probably reduced their guard when they saw some conciliatory movement. Iz all supposed to be confidential so no more on that.

For the future my Warriors: All true contractual arrangements must be in writing. Hope that all future benefits, stipends, whatever are written as signed contracts and fully executed. Nothing less. Protect allyuh self.
Players had to act and use their leverage to get what they want and you guys timed this perfectly. Scary but it worked.
Good going Jones, Jan and all those behind the scenes who helped to put sense in the head of the TTFA board of directors
Good going DJW, but we watchin' yuh good. We glad Uncle Tim is gone but we watchin' you.
Lasana, over to you to keep them honest and buss de files later.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Socapro on December 22, 2015, 12:01:07 PM
 :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug: :beermug:
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: soccerman on December 22, 2015, 12:10:52 PM
Progress :cheers:
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: Controversial on December 22, 2015, 12:16:33 PM
Copa here we come  ;D :beermug:
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: sjahrain on December 22, 2015, 12:44:28 PM
This shit had me wondering how long it would take before I could exhale
A minute later....Nah that was close
Thanks to Big Mag...play your fitball
Rastafari
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: soccerman on December 22, 2015, 12:48:24 PM
Yes but so far we've only heard from the TTFA, I'd like to hear what the players have to say. I'll be certain when I hear some confirmation from Jan, KJ or some representative.
Title: Re: T&T Senior Men's National Team opt out of Copa América Centenario playoff match
Post by: gawd on pitch on December 22, 2015, 01:45:26 PM
This shit had me wondering how long it would take before I could exhale
A minute later....Nah that was close
Thanks to Big Mag...play your fitball
Rastafari

Same here. I was giving it until the end of the week.. Cause I dont think an 11th hour agreement would have been enough time to get we boyz psychologically prepared.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on December 24, 2015, 07:43:40 AM
Haiti appoints new coach before Copa qualifier vs T&T.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).


The Haitian Football Federation has announced Frenchman Patrice Neveu as its new head coach just in time for the upcoming CONCACAF Copa Centenario playoff qualifying match against T&T on January 8 in Panama City.

Neveu takes over from Marc Collat whose contract was not renewed. He met with Haitian football president Yves Jean Bart on Saturday to finalise the two-year contract. The 61-year-old is the former head coach of DR Congo, Niger and most recently Mauritania.

The Haitian team will assemble in Miami from December 27 for a training camp during which Neveu will take charge of the team for the first time. The Haitian FA has called up 35 players for this training camp. Haiti are coming off a 1-0 loss to Jamaica at home in World Cup qualifying action.

T&T midfielder Andre Boucaud meantime, says he expects the encounter to be a keenly contested one but certainly a match for the winning in T&T’s favour.

“There’s no doubt the game is going to be tough as hell,” Boucaud said. “This is like a final for a chance to qualify for what is maybe the next biggest tournament for teams in the region outside of the World Cup. But I think we will be ready. We‘ve got to prepare well and I think that will happen in the time we’ll spend together in the training camp and we’ll be focused and ready for the match.

“Everyone is very keen on ensuring we get the result to take us to the Copa because it doesn’t get much better than this when it comes to competing against some of the best teams in the world.”

The T&T team will enter a live-in training camp in Trinidad from December 27 to January 6 in preparation for the clash with Haiti.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: trini_stallion on December 24, 2015, 01:48:10 PM
Hart names 23-man squad for Copa America Centenario qualifier vs Haiti.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Trinidad and Tobago Men’s Senior Team head coach Stephen Hart has announced a 23-man squad for the upcoming Copa America Centenario qualifying match against Haiti scheduled for the Rommel Fernandez Stadium in Panama City on January 8th, 2016.

The squad has one newcomer in DirecTV W Connection’s Jomal Williams with just two regular senior team members from the recent line ups against the United States and Guatemala missing. They are captain Kenwyne Jones and defender Sheldon Bateau who are both unavailable due to club commitments as the match does not fall within a FIFA international match window.

Central FC midfielder Ataulla Guerra has also earned a recall to the squad.

The rest of the team includes several players who have been part of the squad throughout 2015 including goalkeepers Jan Michael Williams and Marvin Phillip, midfielders Andre Boucaud, Keron Cummings, Khaleem Hyland, US-based quartet Joevin Jones, Cordell Cato, Kevan George and Trevin Caesar, forward Jonathan Glenn and Willis Plaza, defenders Radanfah Abu Bakr, Daneil Cyrus, Mekeil Williams, Yohance Marshall, Aubrey David and Justin Hoyte. Former national under 20 captain Neveal Hackshaw is also included.

Hart commented on the selection, also thanking the FA, led by President David John-Williams for its efforts in resolving the issue relating to outstanding match wages.

“We are grateful to the Association for resolving the team issues and now we will begin preparation  for the Copa Qualification,” Hart told TTFA Media on Christmas Eve.

“The importance of the game speaks for itself, however, the importance of actually playing in the Copa America cannot be measured. The experience of playing in such a prestigious tournament, against the best teams in South America and the CONCACAF, is not something that can be taught. All aspects of a player’s and team’s footballing ability will tested for over 90 minutes,” Hart continued.

“The game against Haiti is simply a stepping stone. The staff and myself have strived for consistency and the player selection is an indication of this. The challenge now for the players selected, is to perform in camp and compete for their starting positions,” he concluded.

Goalkeeper Williams who has worn the T&T armband in the absence of Jones, said the T&T team will get down to the business of focusing on international football as they head into the training camp at the Metro Hotel in Couva with daily training sessions scheduled for the Manny Ramjohn Stadium in Marabella.

“ Obviously the entire situation over the past couple weeks would have some kind of effect on the players but when you look at the composition of the squad and quality that’s there along with the mentality we’ve possessed over the past three years, we are definitely going to get ourselves back to focusing on football and we’ll be going there to win the game without question,” Williams told TTFA Media on Thursday.

He stressed on the importance of T&T qualifying for the Copa America Centenario next year in the United States where the likes of Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Colombia and other Concacaf opponents will be competing.

“It is extremely important for us to win the match against Haiti and qualify for the Copa. The will be an enormous achievement not just for the national team but for the country at large.

“Our performances have been very good this year and we will be looking to continue that momentum and take it right into the upcoming World Cup qualifiers in March and hopefully the Copa America in June.

“To be able to compete against the likes of Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay and these teams will be massive for us. But we know that Haiti is no push over. We lost to them in the Gold Cup two years ago and we will have to ensure we are physically and mentally ready for the match,” Williams added.

Trinidad and Tobago 23-man Squad for Copa Centenario Qualifier

Goalkeepers:

Jan-Michael Williams (Central FC), Marvin Phillip (Morvant Caledonia United), Adrian Foncette (Police FC).

Defenders:

Daneil Cyrus (W Connection), Justin Hoyte (Dagenham & Redbridge—England), Carlyle Mitchell (Seoul E-Land—South Korea), Radanfah Abu Bakr (HB Koge—Denmark), Yohance Marshall (Murcielagos FC—Mexico), Mekeil Williams (Antigua GFC—Guatemala), Aubrey David (Shakhter Karagandy—Kazakhstan).

Midfielders:

Andre Boucaud (Dagenham & Redbridge—England), Khaleem Hyland (KV Westerlo—Belgium), Kevan George (Unattached), Neveal Hackshaw (North East Stars), Trevin Caesar (Austin Aztex—USA), Cordell Cato (San Jose Earthquakes—USA), Lester Peltier (Slovan Bratislava—Slovakia), Joevin Jones (Chicago Fire—USA), Jomal Williams (W Connection), Keron Cummings (North East Stars), Ataulla Guerra (Central FC).

Forwards:

Willis Plaza (Central FC), Jonathan Glenn (Breioablik—Iceland).

Staff:

Stephen Hart, Hutson Charles, Derek King, Michael Maurice (goalkeeper coach), David Muhammad (manager), Peter Rampersad (manager), Dr Terrence Babwah (doctor), Dave Isaac (therapist), Tobias Ottley (fitness trainer), Saron Joseph (trainer), Michael Williams (equipment manager), Shaun Fuentes (press officer).

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: trini_stallion on December 24, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
BraveHart announced his squad...no jones and bateau...this game I expecting to be a reallllll fight...especially how Haiti just hire a new coach, he gonna try and make a statement! All we have to do is be composed and stick to the game plan! Happy to see Mitchell get a call up!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on December 24, 2015, 03:02:05 PM
Haiti may be harder hit with missing key players. All of their Ligue 1,2 and 3 players have games on January 9th.

These players were in the last qualifiers against Costa Rica and Jamaica:

- Johnny Placide
- Kervins Belfort
- Duckens Nazon
- Romain Genevois
- Jean Jacque Pierre
- Jeff Louis
- Max Hilaire

5 of these guys started in the Costa Rica game. And 4 of them started in the Jamaica game. Those who never started came on as subs.

Although Haiti's squad hasnt been announced, I think it might be a given that the players above will be missing the game as they do have club commitments on January 9th.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Sam on December 27, 2015, 05:31:01 AM
Big side.

Bull them hard T&T

Jones and Sheldon will be miss though.

Let do it for them.

Doh underestimate Haiti, them serious about they football and they have a good side, I see they call up some youths from France, them eh making joke and they have stamina, they could run whole game.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on December 27, 2015, 06:01:00 AM
Soca Warriors go into camp today.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


National coach Stephen Hart and his 23-man squad will head into camp today in preparation for their Copa America Centenario Berth match against Haiti on January 8 at the Estadio Rommel Fernandez in Panama City, Panama.

The players are expected to assemble in the early afternoon along with staff members; Hutson Charles and Derek King (Asst coaches), Michael Maurice (Goalkeeper coach), William Wallace (Manager), Peter Rampersad and David Muhammad (Asst Managers), Terrance Babwah (Doctor), Dave Isaac (Physiotherapist), Tobias Ottley (Trainer), Michael Williams (Equipment Manager), Saron Joseph (Massage Therapist) and Shaun Fuentes (Media Officer).

Yesterday Wallace said everything was in place as the players were no longer disgruntled over the delayed payment of match fees. “Everything seems to be in place now,” Wallace said. The only minor hiccup may be the unavailability of the Ato Boldon Stadium, which is in need of repairs. 

The squad was expected to utilise both the Boldon and the Manny Ramjohn facilities but Wallace explained that because of the situation at the Boldon venue, the  Manny Ramjohn and Hasely Crawford venue would be where the sessions will be focused.

The players were able to negotiate a substantial match fee with a three-member committee appointed by the T&T Football Association (TTFA) last week, that allowed them to call off a strike for the Haiti clash.

Most of the players who faced the United States in the last qualifier at the Hasely Crawford Stadium on November 17 are included in the squad. Missing are captain Kenwyne Jones who has club commitments and Chicago Fire defender Sheldon Bateau.

Hart has since called up W Connection’s leading striker Jomal Williams and Central FC midfielder Ataullah Guerra as replacements. The rest of the team includes players who have been part of the squad throughout 2015 such as goalkeepers Jan Michael Williams and Marvin Phillip; midfielders Andre Boucaud, Keron Cummings, Khaleem Hyland, US-based quartet of Joevin Jones, Cordell Cato, Kevan George and Trevin Caesar; forwards Jonathan Glenn and Willis Plaza; defenders Radanfah Abu Bakr, Daneil Cyrus, Mekeil Williams, Yohance Marshall, Aubrey David and Justin Hoyte. Former national under 20 captain Neveal Hackshaw is also included.

 The team is expected to leave on January 6 for the Haiti match.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: sjahrain on December 27, 2015, 06:50:35 AM
I miss that one,how long Sheldon playing with Chicago....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: 100% Barataria on December 27, 2015, 06:57:22 AM
Long time dread   ???
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on December 27, 2015, 12:05:42 PM
I certainly don't want to hear any minor hiccup about securing a practice field for practice. Every friggin time is the stadium in need of repair. There must be a field available in TT. Sando is paradise pasture available?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on December 27, 2015, 04:44:37 PM
I certainly don't want to hear any minor hiccup about securing a practice field for practice. Every friggin time is the stadium in need of repair. There must be a field available in TT. Sando is paradise pasture available?

Dont worry, they will start fixing all the fields soon, Carnival is near.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on December 28, 2015, 06:34:26 AM
Winchester replaces Cummings for upcoming qualifier.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


‘Warriors’ start preparations for Copa qualifier.

Trinidad and Tobago Head Coach Stephen Hart has named Shahdon Winchester as the replacement for attacking midfielder Keron Cummings who has been ruled out of the Copa America Centenario qualifier versus Haiti after receiving a gun shot wound to the leg in the early hours of Sunday morning outside of his home in Petit Valley.

Winchester, of DirecTV W Connection, will join the team’s live-in training camp on Monday and will participate in the training sessions scheduled for the Manny Ramjohn Stadium from 8:30am and then at the Hasely Crawford Stadium from 6pm.

Hart conducted his first session of the camp on Sunday evening at the Port of Spain venue ahead of the January 8th match in Panama City which will see the winner advance to the historic Copa America Centenario in the United States.

Few players were missing on Sunday with the likes of Khaleem Hyland, Kevan George, Andre Boucaud, Justin Hoyte and Jonathan Glenn scheduled to enter camp this week and Hart is expected to have his full compliment of 23 players by January 2nd. Central FC forward Willis Plaza has also been ruled out due to a shoulder injury and Rundell Winchester has been called up as his replacement.

Hart said he was keen to commence training but was of course saddened by the news that hit the team camp earlier in the day concerning Cummings.

“This is the part that I enjoy and I think we all enjoy, having the players here and on the field and back in training. The opening session is just to get everybody in the right frame of mind and in the right spirit,” Hart said following the session on Sunday evening.

On the matter of Cummings, he said: “I think if there is a silver lining in a shooting is that he (Cummings) is alive. Hopefully he is in good hands. We wish him all the best to get back healthy, and then we can think about his football again. All the players and the staff are in full support. We’ll see him and give him our support. I think we have to rally around that and the game now has an extra meaning now because he was a big part of us.”

Commenting on the squad, Hart stated: “It’s one game and it’s one mission – to win. The main thing now is to get players sharp. Some of them have been off for a little while, while others have been playing. The main thing is to get them in the right frame of mind and the mental attitude has to be right.

“We have to know that we are going into a game that will quite essentially is going to be a dog fight but it is one to get into a very prestigious tournament and something where you can’t put a price on the experience you will get in playing in a tournament like that. But first things first – one game.

He also spoke on the inclusion of Ataulla Guerra and Jomal Williams.

“I think the season they are having, it gives them an opportunity to come into the squad. I have shown confidence in picking them and now it’s for them to fight their way into the starting line up, to train properly and show me that they cannot be left out unless it is for tactical reasons.”

Hart said the team will focus on the business of playing football following the recent episode regarding outstanding wages.

“It is unfortunate what happened. To be fair, the new regime came in and they were not aware of the entire situation and it is unfortunate. It is very understandable in terms of the players, and you have to support that but that’s behind us now and hopefully mentally behind us because it was extremely taxing mentally. I know for me, I was a little bit put back because this is a very important outing for us.

Hart further said that he was satisfied that there would be ongoing progress.

“I haven’t had a chance to sit down with the President as yet but we have been talking every day on the phone and he has assured me that all things are moving in the right track. I have to trust him on that. That’s his department and I will try and take care of things on the field,” Hart stated.

Following the session, TTFA President David John- Williams, who was also at practice, paid a visit to Cummings at the Port of Spain General Hospital and Team Doctor Terance Babwah has also been monitoring the player’s progress. The FA will continue to keep abreast of his progress and will make the efforts to ensure the player receives the necessary support during his recovery period. The members of the team also kept their wounded teammate in prayer at the start of Sunday’s training session.

Cummings who made his senior international debut in 2010, is scheduled to undergo surgery on Monday morning.

VIDEO: - Day One of Training Camp as T&T Prepares for Copa Qualifier (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3W6N04OVhM&feature=youtu.be)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on December 28, 2015, 10:45:22 AM
Haiti should be naming their squad for this game by the end of today or tomorrow. So far 4 key players are confirmed to miss the game:

Jeff Louis
Donald Guerrier
Jean Sony Alcénat
Reginal Goreaux

This is the team so far:

Steward Ceus
Luis Valendi Odelus
Sebastien Thurière
Méchack Jérome
Sony Norde
Pascal Millien
Jean Marc Alexandre
Wedson Anselm
Kervens Son Belfort,
Judlin Avesca,
Max Hilaire,
Kevin Lafrance,
Frantz Bertin,
Jean Eudes Maurice.
Soni Mustivar,
Jean Jr Monuma Constant Junior
Delva Woodensky Mr. Cherenfant,
Jaafson Origen,
Alex Christian Junior.
Stéphane Lambèse.
Kim Jaggy
Duckens Nazon

3 French based players got permission from their clubs to leave despite having a club game the following day i.e. Nazon, Belfort and Hilaire.

There is a strong possibility that Johnny Placide and Jean Jacque Pierre will also miss the game, as they haven't convinced their clubs to let them go.

Here is the link.

http://haititempo.com/sur-la-route-de-la-copa-america-centenario-les-grenadiers-en-floride/?preview=true
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on December 28, 2015, 11:49:43 AM
Jomal Williams and Shahdon! W Conn cyah vex. :devil:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: 100% Barataria on December 28, 2015, 01:12:02 PM
Unless something miraculous occur in training or there is another successful formation of what we are not aware, likely that used vs Guat and US will be employed again for this game. The two games vs SVG may offer some moderate oppy to try a couple other options...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on December 28, 2015, 03:22:13 PM
Both Winchesters were drafted (Rundell and Shahdon) and will replace Cummings and Plaza.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: pull stones on December 28, 2015, 03:39:38 PM
Both Winchesters were drafted (Rundell and Shahdon) and will replace Cummings and Plaza.
is plaza injured?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: amielisadore on December 28, 2015, 03:44:10 PM
Both Winchesters were drafted (Rundell and Shahdon) and will replace Cummings and Plaza.
is plaza injured?

Yes. Dislocated shoulder picked up playing Cale
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: pull stones on December 28, 2015, 03:46:49 PM
Both Winchesters were drafted (Rundell and Shahdon) and will replace Cummings and Plaza.
is plaza injured?

Yes. Dislocated shoulder picked up playing Cale
thank you.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Big Magician on December 28, 2015, 06:15:23 PM
that " Jeff Louis" player..pure class
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: chelsealife on December 28, 2015, 06:29:50 PM
When Rundell joining up with the team? Aren't they supposed to be I'm camp already? Cuz I spot him riding bike in Plymouth this afternoon
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on December 28, 2015, 06:33:32 PM
that " Jeff Louis" player..pure class

Yep. One of the few Ligue 1 players who were actually born in Haiti. He is injured so we wont have to worry about marking him.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on December 29, 2015, 07:07:20 AM
Winchesters replace Cummings and Plaza.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


T&T coach Stephen Hart has summoned Shahdon Winchester as the replacement for attacking midfielder Keron Cummings who has been ruled out of the Copa America Centenario qualifier versus Haiti after being shot in the right leg in the wee hours of Sunday morning outside his Petit Valley home.

Winchester of Princes Town and who plays his trade with DirecTV W Connection, joined the team’s live-in training camp yesterday and was expected to work out with the team at 8.30 am at the Mannie Ramjohn Stadium and later at 6 pm at the Hasely Crawford Stadium. Hart conducted his first session on Sunday evening at the Port-of-Spain venue, mere hours after Cummings was ambushed and shot for reasons that still continue to confuse coach Hart and his teammates.

Cummings was expected to report for training yesterday as the team looks forward to the all important encounter against Haiti on January 8 in Panama City, Panama with the winner advancing to the Copa America tournament which is being held for the first time in the United States. Sunday’s turn-out was minus just a few players, with the likes of Khaleem Hyland, Kevan George, Andre Boucaud, Justin Hoyte and Jonathan Glenn scheduled to enter camp this week. He is expected to have his full complement of 23 players by January 2.

Meanwhile, Central FC striker Willis Plaza has also been ruled out due to a shoulder injury and Tobagonian Rundell Winchester has been called up as his replacement. The Winchesters are not related.

Hart said he was keen to commence training but was saddened by the news that hit the team camp earlier in the day concerning Cummings. “This is the part that I enjoy and I think we all enjoy, having the players here and on the field and back in training. The opening session is just to get everybody in the right frame of mind and in the right spirit,” Hart said following the session on Sunday.

On the matter of Cummings, he said: “I think if there is a silver lining in a shooting is that he (Cummings) is alive. Hopefully he is in good hands. We wish him all the best to get back healthy, and then we can think about his football again. All the players and the staff are in full support. We’ll see him and give him our support. I think we have to rally around that and the game now has an extra meaning now because he was a big part of us.”

Concerning the squad, Hart said “It’s one game and it’s one mission to win. The main thing now is to get players sharp. Some of them have been off for a little while and others have been playing. The main thing is to get them in the right frame of mind and the mental attitude has to be right. We have to know that we are going into a game that is going to be a dog fight, but it is one thing to get into a prestigious tournament but something where you can’t put a price on the experience the players will get in playing in a tournament like that.”

Hart also welcomed the inclusion of Ataulla Guerra and Jomal Williams in the squad. “I think the season they are having, gives them an opportunity to come into the squad. I have shown confidence in picking them and now it’s for them to fight their way into the starting lineup, to train properly and show me that they cannot be left out unless it is for tactical reasons,” Hart explained.

Hart said the team would  focus on the business of playing football following the recent episode regarding outstanding wages. “It is unfortunate what happened. To be fair, the new regime came in and they were not aware of the entire situation and it is unfortunate. It is very understandable in terms of the players and you have to support that but that’s behind us now and hopefully mentally behind us also because it was extremely taxing mentally.” said Hart.

After the session, TTFA President David John-Williams, who was also at practice, paid a visit to Cummings at the Port-of-Spain General Hospital and Team Doctor Terence Babwah has also been monitoring the player’s progress. The FA will continue to keep abreast of his progress and will make the efforts to ensure the player receives the necessary support during his recovery period. The members of the team also kept their wounded teammate in prayer at the start of Sunday’s training session.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: palos on December 29, 2015, 01:50:00 PM
Things that make you go hmmmmm
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on December 30, 2015, 04:03:05 AM
‘Warriors’ maintain focus.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


With teammate Keron Cummings maintaining a presence in their prayers and thoughts, Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior Footballers kept pace with their preparations for the 2016 Copa America Centenario with a double session at the Manny Ramjohn Stadium in Marabella on Tuesday.

Head Coach Stephen Hart and his staff have been keeping a close eye on proceedings and ensuring that the players keep their eye on the prize which is qualification for the historic Copa America Centenario.

Defender Yohance Marshall assured that the “Warriors” have not lost focus on the task at hand.

“We are building every day. The first day was used to get everyone back in order because some players have been off season. We have been taking up the intensity each day,” Marshall told TTFA Media.

“It’s been mixed emotions. We know the job at hand but we also have our brother Keron on our minds. We are going to work hard for him but we also know we have a hard task at hand. I am confident in the team because we have a couple players coming in and a couple players missing but we do have the cored of the squad together.”

Marshall who plays professionally in Mexico for Murcielagos FC, said the unity within the team will be key factor : “The vibes within the team will be the key. We spoke about it today. We have had that camaraderie all of this year and it is one of the key factors in our squad.”

One of the newcomers Marshall referred to is DirecTV W Connection’s Jomal Williams who is in the squad for just the second time under Stephen Hart after making his senior debut in an international friendly with Panama in March at the Ato Boldon Stadium.

Williams was joined by fellow Connection teammate Shahdon Winchester in training on Monday, coming in as a replacement for Cummings. Forward Rundell Winchester also joined training on Monday, in for Willis Plaza who sustained a dislocated shoulder earlier this month.

The 21-year-old Williams described his first couple days in camp as an insightful and exciting.

“It’s been something I’ve been working hard and waiting for, working hard in training with my squad and performing, hoping that coach (Hart) would see me and give me a call to the squad,” Williams said. “It wasn’t really surprising because I’ve been in good form in the league so it’s just a case of continuing to work hard now.”

The former National Under 23 and Under 20 player spoke about the first couple days of the camp, expressing his feelings ahead of the match versus Haiti.

“The sessions have been good for me. It’s a bit intensive. It’s a great feeling to be here and to be looked at by the coach. It’ something a player also wants in his career. Getting the right attitude is the key for any player. The game against Haiti is a major one for the country and for us as players individually. I am really looking forward to it,” Williams said.

The T&T team will continue preparations with a morning session at the Manny Ramjohn Stadium and then at 6pm at the Hasely Crawford Stadium on Wednesday.

Haiti squad prepares at IMG in Tampa

Meantime, Haiti is also continuing its preparations at the IMG Academy in Tampa. Their preparations are being overseen by technical director Wilner Etienne prior to the arrival of newly appointed head coach Patrice Neveu.

The Haitians have a fairly strong squad available for the match with (Steward Ceus (Atlanta Silverbacks, Sébastien Thuriere (Charleston Battery, USA), Sony Norde (Mumbai FC, India), Jean Marc Alexandre (Negeri Sembilan, Malaysia), Wedson Anselme (Sheikh Jamal Dhanmondi – Bangladesh) and Kervins Fils Belfort (Trabzon 1461, Turkey) all involved along with Judlin Avesca (Ind. Argentina), Max Hilaire (FC Cholet, France), Kevin Lafrance (FK Viktoria Zizkov/Rep. Czech), Frantz Bertin (Indian League ISL) and Jean Eudes Maurice (PSG/France).

Missing from their squad is Jeff Louis (Stade Malherbe Caen, France), Wild D. Guerrier (Wisla Krakow, Pologne) and Jean Sony Alcenat (Steaua Bucarest, Romania) who are all injured while Réginal Goreux (Stantard de Liège D1 Belge) has not been released by his club.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on December 30, 2015, 09:10:48 AM
Here is Haiti's final 23:

GK
Luiz Valendi Odelus
Jeffson Origene
Steward Ceus

DF
Mechack Jerome
Frantz Bertin
Judelin Avesca
Christian Jr Alex
Kim Jaggy
Stephane Lambese

MF
Jean marc Alexander
Pascal Millien
Junior Delva
Max Hilaire
Sony Mustivar
Kevin LaFrance
Sébastien Thuriere
Constant jr Monumat

FW

Kervins Belfort
Duckens Nazon
Wedson Anselme
Jean Eudes Maurice
Sony Norde
Woodensky Cherenfant

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=950445831702249

They are missing their captain Johnny Placide along with 5 key guys. I hope we take full advantage of this.

I think we have a stronger mid field and defence. We will need some help up front as we are missing K9 and Pest. My guess is that Hart will push Cato into a similar role he had during the USA game. We need our midfield to take some scoring chances.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: trini_stallion on December 30, 2015, 01:11:30 PM
So fellas on my glad man scene my line up is as follows, 4-4-2

                       Williams
Cyrus.         David.         Bakr.           Marshall

Ceasor.       Hyland.        Boucaud.       Jones
 
                       Glen.      Cato.

I was fighting up with the midfield in regards to tullah, and Cato...but I went with Ceasor because he is nifty and tough, and his explosiveness will be a good asset to set the tone. I went with Hyland instead of tullah because of his recent performances. Cato is a forward for his team and he has some good height and Glen is strong and fast as well as a good clinical finisher!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on December 30, 2015, 02:06:04 PM
I have something similar:

                      Williams

 Hoyte    Mitchell   Abu Bakr     Williams

  Peltier     Boucaud    Hyland     Jones

                            Cato  Glenn

We have a better defense and midfield than the Haitians. They will try their best to contain Cato and Glenn. So it going to come down to these three players to show their quality and get a goal : Hyland, Boucaud and Jones.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: trini_stallion on December 30, 2015, 02:43:33 PM
I would go with Cyrus over hoyte because the Haitians are more of a pysical team and Cyrus appears to be stronger physically, he can also move the ball forward well, David over Mitchell because David playing regular and Mitchell just off an injury. Ceasor over Corncurls because Corncurls is a man that don't bring that consistency and he unattached as well.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: amielisadore on December 30, 2015, 03:37:17 PM
So fellas on my glad man scene my line up is as follows, 4-4-2

                       Williams
Cyrus.         David.         Bakr.           Marshall

Ceasor.       Hyland.        Boucaud.       Jones
 
                       Glen.      Cato.

I was fighting up with the midfield in regards to tullah, and Cato...but I went with Ceasor because he is nifty and tough, and his explosiveness will be a good asset to set the tone. I went with Hyland instead of tullah because of his recent performances. Cato is a forward for his team and he has some good height and Glen is strong and fast as well as a good clinical finisher!

Marshall cannot play left back. And especially not against a possibly pacy and aggressive Haitian team. Williams has virtually locked up that left back spot of late so don't expect that to change. Cato is also only 5 9" or so lol. One of the shortest on the team. The US based players have also been out of action for close to two months now so possibly one or two local based who are fresher can stake a claim.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: trini_stallion on December 30, 2015, 04:11:15 PM
Rundell is a big fella... But Cato speed and agility is a big plus! sorry I meant Williams and not Marshall! I had just watched an interview with Marshall and got confused!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Tallman on December 30, 2015, 04:15:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/9Dwsa6j8kGA

https://www.youtube.com/v/borqwwFzfkM
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Rastaman on December 30, 2015, 04:22:11 PM
Rundell is a big fella... But Cato speed and agility is a big plus! sorry I meant Williams and not Marshall! I had just watched an interview with Marshall and got confused!
I actually believe that Rundell is faster than Cato. Might be the two fastest on the team.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: amielisadore on December 30, 2015, 04:27:26 PM
Rundell is a big fella... But Cato speed and agility is a big plus! sorry I meant Williams and not Marshall! I had just watched an interview with Marshall and got confused!

Oh ho. I want to know. lol. Cato playing off of Glen is an interesting prospect though for the same reasons you mentioned. I wouldn't be surprised if Hart selected the same line up and his favored formation though. With just David and Glen in for Jones and Bateau. Tullah is coming off of an injury as well so lots to consider.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: trini_stallion on December 30, 2015, 05:02:14 PM
Rundell is a big fella... But Cato speed and agility is a big plus! sorry I meant Williams and not Marshall! I had just watched an interview with Marshall and got confused!
I actually believe that Rundell is faster than Cato. Might be the two fastest on the team.

I eh know nah hoss...de way I see Cato buss thru dem 2 Yankees in HCS...idkkkkkk

All I could say is this game going and be a rellllllll fight! I am looking forward to see how we compose ourselves and the waves of Haitians attack! Be defense is a good offense...we hadda bring it like how we did against USA...oh and finish our chances offcourse!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: soccerman on December 30, 2015, 06:17:49 PM
I was fighting up with the midfield in regards to tullah, and Cato...but I went with Ceasor because he is nifty and tough, and his explosiveness will be a good asset to set the tone. I went with Hyland instead of tullah because of his recent performances. Cato is a forward for his team and he has some good height and Glen is strong and fast as well as a good clinical finisher!
Good height? Cato is listed as 5'9 and I think he may be even shorter than that.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: pull stones on December 30, 2015, 07:19:37 PM
is it me alone or does atulla guerra strike anyone else as a person who's a bit lose in the noggin?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on December 30, 2015, 08:04:41 PM
Quick scouting report

The Haitian backline is not the biggest. They only have two or three 6-footers (one is an inexperienced youth in psg academy). They will probably start with the more experienced guys in the back (Jaggy 5"9, Aveska 6"0, Lafrance 6"0). Cato and Glenn should be able to handle their own against a somewhat smaller Haitian defense.

The Haitian offense is much smaller than our defense. Six of our seven defenders are 6 footers ( Marshall 6"1, Mitchell 6"1, Cyrus 6"4, Abubakr 6"4, Williams 6"2, David 6"3. Hoyte (5"11). From the information I ran into, there is only one 6 footer in the Haitian offense (Belfort 6"1, Nazon, 5"11, Norde 5"10, Maurice 5"10). I am not sure about the height of the other two attackers Cherefant and Anselme.

Their midfield is not as talented as ours. They only have Lafrance who is a more defensive minded midfielder than a creative one. He can play in the defense as well. Besides Lafrance, they have one player in the MLS(Mustivar) two in the  USL(Thuriere and Millien) one in Malaysia superleague (Alexander) one in the Haitian pro league (Constant) another playing in Bangladesh (Delva) and one player in the french 5th division (Hilaire).

Haiti will be missing their captain Placide. He is solid and is good with keeping them in the game. I know he will be missed by the Haitians.

Haiti is currently working without their new coach. The new coach should be joining them within a day or so. Still very problematic as he does not know much about the team he will be inheriting. My guess is that Neveu will probably push the team to go for goals.


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Dutty Love on January 01, 2016, 11:36:00 AM
I am surprised to say the least when I see Marshall left out of a potential line up (with Bateau missing).

Marshall has been consistent high performer for a top Ascenso MX side. His team is better than the bottom 50% of the MLS and so is his competition.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: 100% Barataria on January 01, 2016, 11:59:23 AM
I am surprised to say the least when I see Marshall left out of a potential line up (with Bateau missing).

Marshall has been consistent high performer for a top Ascenso MX side. His team is better than the bottom 50% of the MLS and so is his competition.

Yeah, at CB it would be either him or CM replacing Sheldon (most likely); of course Hart knows better than all of us.  W/what's happening w/KJ really curious to see if he ends up featuring in this match...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 01, 2016, 12:18:01 PM
I am surprised to say the least when I see Marshall left out of a potential line up (with Bateau missing).

Marshall has been consistent high performer for a top Ascenso MX side. His team is better than the bottom 50% of the MLS and so is his competition.

Yeah, at CB it would be either him or CM replacing Sheldon (most likely); of course Hart knows better than all of us.  W/what's happening w/KJ really curious to see if he ends up featuring in this match...

Everyone is hoping so. You would think that the recent developments between him and Cardiff could lead to him playing in this match. But at the same time, Cardiff will need him available(in Europe) and healthy to shop him around. I'm sure we're not the only ones asking this question.. possibly even the players and administrators. Hopefully a statement comes out soon regarding his availability.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Dutty Love on January 01, 2016, 05:06:08 PM
I could see KJ doing great in Liga MX. He could be a hit there like Gignac
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on January 03, 2016, 06:14:33 AM
Justin Hoyte has been ruled out after suffering a hamstring with his club Dagenham and Redbridge.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on January 03, 2016, 06:17:46 AM
Haiti selects 23-man squad to face ‘Warriors’
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Haiti has announced a strong line up to face Trinidad and Tobago in the upcoming Copa America Centenario qualifying match in Panama City on January 8th.

The Haitians, who reached the quarter finals of the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup, have been engaged in a training camp at the IMG Academy in Tampa for just over a week.

Their team includes sixteen overseas-based professionals including the likes of Stephane Lambese who plays for Paris St Germain, Alex Christian Junior of Portuguese club Boavista, Polish-based defender Kevin Lafrance, Sebastien Thuriere of Charleston Battery, Sony Mustivar of Sporting Kansas, Turkish-based forward Kervens Belfort, Swiss-based defender Kim Jaggy and France-based midfielder Max Hilaire. They also have three players based in India, Mumbai FC duo, defender Frantz Bertin and midfielder Sony Norde, and Judlin Aveska of Mohon Bagan.

Haiti began its 2018 World Cup qualifying campaign with a 1-0 loss away to Costa Rica and a 1-0 loss at home to Jamaica in November.

Following a one-day break, the ‘Warriors” resumed training on Saturday evening at the Manny Ramjohn Stadium and head coach Stephen Hart indicated that the preparations have gone quite good so far.

Columbus Crew midfielder Kevan George and Jonathan Glenn have entered camp with Khaleem Hyland and Andre Bocuaud scheduled to join the preparations on Sunday. But Dagenham and Redbridge defender Justin Hoyte has been ruled out after suffering a hamstring injury in his team’s 2-1 win over Exeter City in English League Two action on Saturday. Hart is expected to name a replacement for him.

“Of course when we first came in the mood somber as everyone was a bit down because of what happened to Keron Cummings. But now the mood has been fantastic The training has been excellent. We have focused mainly on our physical preparation and a lot of ball work on trying to get the attackers working together because it’s a new group of attackers. All in all I am very pleased so far” Hart told TTFA Media.

With all the players coming in by Sunday, Hart added: “We’ll review Haiti and our own game plan extensively. The players coming in are playing regularly, so I’m not really worried about their fitness levels. I’m looking forward to that switch over part of the camp when we’ll have all twenty three players in,” Hart added.

Orlando City midfielder Kevin Molino also joined the team in training on Wednesday evening at the Hasely Crawford to engage in some supervised training as he prepares for his comeback following ACL surgery last year. The players and staff also visited Keron Cummings at the Port of Spain General Hospital following his operation on Wednesday.

The T&T team will depart for Panama City on Wednesday ahead of Friday’s match at the Estadio Rommel Fernandez. Panama will face Cuba in the second game of the double header with the two winners advancing to the 2016 Copa America Centenario in the United States.

Trinidad & Tobago Squad

Goalkeepers:

Jan-Michael Williams (Central FC), Marvin Phillip (Morvant Caledonia United), Adrian Foncette (Police FC).

Defenders:

Daneil Cyrus (W Connection), Carlyle Mitchell (Seoul E-Land—South Korea), Radanfah Abu Bakr (HB Koge—Denmark), Yohance Marshall (Murcielagos FC—Mexico), Mekeil Williams (Antigua GFC—Guatemala), Aubrey David (Deportivo Saprissa—Costa Rica).

Midfielders:

Andre Boucaud (Dagenham & Redbridge—England), Khaleem Hyland (KV Westerlo—Belgium), Kevan George (Unattached), Neveal Hackshaw (North East Stars), Trevin Caesar (Austin Aztex—USA), Cordell Cato (San Jose Earthquakes—USA), Lester Peltier (Slovan Bratislava—Slovakia), Joevin Jones (Chicago Fire—USA), Jomal Williams (W Connection), Ataullah Guerra (Central FC).

Forwards:

Rundell Winchester (Portland Timbers II—USA), Jonathan Glenn (Breioablik—Iceland), Shahdon Winchester (W Connection).

Haiti Squad

Goalkeepers

Steward Ceus (Atlanta Silverbacks—USA), Valendi Odelus (Aigle Noir AC—Haïti), Jaafson Origène (Don Bosco FC—Haïti).

Defenders

Méchack Jérome (Armada FC—USA), Frantz Bertin (Mumbai City FC—India), Judlin Aveska (Mohon Bagan—India), Stéphane Lambèse (PSG—France), Kim Jaggy (Aarau FC—Switzerland), Alex Christian Junior (FC Boavista—Portugal) Kevin Lafrance (Miedz Legnieca—Poland).

Midfielders

Sébastien Thurière (Charleston Battery—USA), Jean Marc Alexandre (Negeri Sembilan—Malaysia), Max Hilaire (Pau FC—France), Soni Mustivar (Sporting Kansas—USA), Constant Monuma (Don Bosco—Haïti), Sony Nordé (Mumbai City FC—India), Pascal Millien (Armada FC—USA), Junior Delva (Don Bosco FC—Haïti).

Forwards

Wedson Anselme (Aigle Noir AC—Haiti), Kervens Fils Belfort (1460 Trabzon Sport—Turkey), Jean Eudes Maurice (Ermis Aradippou—Cyprus), Woodensky M. Chèrenfant (Fica—Haiti), Duckens Nazon (Stade Lavallois—France).

Video: - Hart Sums up 2015 for Soca Warriors (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GXrDgUU4Xo)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: de_redman on January 03, 2016, 07:45:01 AM
Justin Hoyte has been ruled out after suffering a hamstring with his club Dagenham and Redbridge.


Damn!  >:(
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 03, 2016, 07:51:50 AM
Lambese plays in the French 5th division for psg reserves. And Alex Christian plays in the Portuguese 3rd division for Boa Vista reserves. Both haven't played first team football for the year. Most of their overseas players are playing in leagues that aren't too competitive.

The back up goalies they have for Placide are horrible. They say the rest of the players don't even have any faith in them.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 03, 2016, 08:01:52 AM
Justin Hoyte has been ruled out after suffering a hamstring with his club Dagenham and Redbridge.


Damn!  >:(

Last month was the player boycott.. Last week was a shooting. This week is an injury.. This team might need a bush bath. I'm sure the    "Haitians" won't hesitate to take theirs.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: soccerman on January 03, 2016, 11:00:33 PM
What time is this game on Fri? EST
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Sam on January 04, 2016, 06:23:46 AM
Williams
Mekeil
Mitchell
Abu Bakr
Cyrus
Jones
Hyland
George
Boucaud
Glenn
Cato


We have to get in on the attack and control the game from the earlies.

Haiti is a good team who love to run and get behind defenders but they terrible in front of goal.

This is why we need to punch a few goals in early and lock up de game, we cannot go into de game with a Jose Mourinho mentality and park de buss and chase de game or score one goal early and defend for 85 mins.

Cato can play as a right winger/attacker leaving Glenn alone upfront at times.

Jaggy, Mustivar, Maurice, Thurière, Belfort, Alexandre  and Lafrance is some decent players.

Jaggy is a good winger who does run forward and not fraid to shoot.

Alexandre and Thurière is solid to.

If Hart could fix Jomal head, he will be a good addition to this squad.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 04, 2016, 10:02:41 AM
From what I seen, those players are okay Sam. Haiti's top players are missing: Johnny Placide, Jeff Louis, Reginal Goreux, Wilde Guerrier, Jean Jaques Pierre and Romaine Genevois. They all play first team football for decent teams in Europe.

With the services of those players, Haiti played well against Costa Rica despite losing 1-0 in San Jose. Marc Collat replaced 3 of them for their game against Jamaica and Haiti lost 1-0 at home. This tells us that those players are crucial for Haiti. Haiti's team for this copa qualifier is half A-team and half B-team. If they had their A-team, we would definitely need Jones, Bateau and Molino. This does not mean we should take them lightly. With their new coach (who does not know much about the players and team chemistry), my guess is that he will encourage the team to be very offensive.

The average height of that starting back line yuh have is about 6"3. I dont think the Haitian front line has the strength and size to burst through that defense (Nazon is quick and crafty, so we will need to shut him down). Their wingers like to run and move the ball up on the sides. This is where I agree with you that Cyrus should play right back.

Last night I watch the recap of the game we played against them before the Gold cup. Our one-touch plays had them scrambling. About 5 of the missing players I mentioned were on the field for that game and we managed to squeeze a 1-0 result over them.

I think we will be okay once our midfield takes control of the game from early.

One last thing, the Haitians are in a goal keeping crisis. The team does not have much faith in their 2nd goal keeper (Ceus). And the other guy they have is not that much better. I hope Bravehart tells the team to test their goalies. As both goalies are prone to making easy mistakes.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 04, 2016, 10:29:25 AM
I like Cato in the front. He will run at the Haitian keeper. This will leave the keeper unsettled and open to mistakes.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 04, 2016, 11:25:11 AM
From what we have seen in the past, I doubt very much that Mr. hart will allow the team into a false sense of security for such a crucial game. That first in Panama is it. We win and we in the Copa. That is all that matters.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 04, 2016, 11:48:33 AM
From what we have seen in the past, I doubt very much that Mr. hart will allow the team into a false sense of security for such a crucial game. That first in Panama is it. We win and we in the Copa. That is all that matters.

You mean in regards to Haiti missing more key players than us? If so, I agree. Bravehart aint going to let them think this is an easy game. He  has done an excellent job with preparing the team mentally. And I'm sure he will continue to do so.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Controversial on January 04, 2016, 01:44:12 PM
Who's showing the game.....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: soccerman on January 04, 2016, 02:10:01 PM
What time is this game on Fri? EST
After some research I found that the game is (20:36) UTC which is 3:36PM EST or 4:36PM TT. I'll wait for official confirmation though.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 04, 2016, 02:20:09 PM
Who's showing the game.....

Univision is showing a tape replay at 1030 after the Panama v Cuba game. Haven't found anything as yet. I hope we can watch this live.. It will be hell to try and avoid the score while waiting for the 1030 game.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 04, 2016, 02:44:21 PM
Are you guys sure Haiti is coming with a weaken team? I read on another forum that only  Réginal Goreux  will be missing.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Tallman on January 04, 2016, 03:16:01 PM
What time is this game on Fri? EST
After some research I found that the game is (20:36) UTC which is 3:36PM EST or 4:36PM TT. I'll wait for official confirmation though.

Looks like we play at 5:36pm EST. Currently, Panama time and EST are the same.

https://www.youtube.com/v/gjUgQ2PY0TM

(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1566_949961285072549_4651760402821818433_n.jpg?oh=fdbe0916859557c51d48fb2eb430222a&oe=57477B1B)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: soccerman on January 04, 2016, 04:09:05 PM
Thanks Tallman. I'll go with your details because I found the game time on Wikipedia but sometimes it's not an accurate source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Am%C3%A9rica_Centenario_qualifying_play-offs
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 04, 2016, 06:03:49 PM
Are you guys sure Haiti is coming with a weaken team? I read on another forum that only  Réginal Goreux  will be missing.

Check my previous posts Che. They missing about 6 key guys. Still there is no need for us to take this game lightly. Here is a reliable source confirming their 23 selection:

http://haititempo.com/barrage-copa-america-haiti-les-selectionnes-sont-connus/

Missing:

Johnny Placide -Reims (Ligue 1 France)
Jean Jacque Pierre - Paris Fc (Ligue 2 France)
Jean Sony Alcenat- Steau Bucharest  (Liga 1 Romanian top division)
Reginal Goreaux - Standard Liege 1 (belgian pro league top division)
Romain Genevois - Nice (Ligue 1 France)
Donald  Guerrier - Wilsa Krakow (Ekstraklasa Polish top division)
Jeff Louis - Caen (Ligue 1 France top division)
Duckens Nazon Laval (Ligue 2 France)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on January 05, 2016, 09:14:26 AM
Game might be live here?
http://somoslasele.com/

Click on EN VIVO

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 05, 2016, 10:23:30 AM
Game might be live here?
http://somoslasele.com/

Click on EN VIVO



Thanks Flex. I was worried that I would have to avoid seeing the score so I could watch the game on Univision at 10:30pm est.

On another note, there is news that Duckens Nazon has not been released by his club and wont be playing in the Copa playoff game. Huge blow for the Haitians. Still we should not take this lightly.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 05, 2016, 10:36:16 AM
Its confirmed. Duckens Nazon joins the list of Haiti's missing players for the Copa qualifier.

https://www.facebook.com/Haititempo/posts/953727611374071
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: palos on January 05, 2016, 05:52:37 PM
Duckens Nazon

Good ting he wasn't a batsman
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Toussaint on January 06, 2016, 07:02:07 AM
Its confirmed. Duckens Nazon joins the list of Haiti's missing players for the Copa qualifier.

https://www.facebook.com/Haititempo/posts/953727611374071


Yeah, it is a bummer for us. But, not having Placide is what troubles us the most. Haiti does have a secret weapon, though. The pair Sony - Wedson can be quite dangerous if Haiti controls the midfield.

As we're approaching match day, there may be additional viewing options posted here. Haiti Sports Forum (http://haitisports.com/forum/index)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Toussaint on January 06, 2016, 07:29:11 AM
Are you guys sure Haiti is coming with a weaken team? I read on another forum that only  Réginal Goreux  will be missing.

It is a weaker defense for sure but offensively Haiti still packs a punch.

Most Haitians consider Tiga a better right back than Goreux. So, it s not the absence of Goreux that hurt us but that of Tiga (Jean Sony Alcenat).
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: truehaitian on January 06, 2016, 07:58:02 AM
Look out for the man who will replace Nazon. He scored twice on T&T the last time  in the gold cup..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2l1WuEMYkw
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Controversial on January 06, 2016, 09:39:09 AM
Its confirmed. Duckens Nazon joins the list of Haiti's missing players for the Copa qualifier.

https://www.facebook.com/Haititempo/posts/953727611374071


Yeah, it is a bummer for us. But, not having Placide is what troubles us the most. Haiti does have a secret weapon, though. The pair Sony - Wedson can be quite dangerous if Haiti controls the midfield.

As we're approaching match day, there may be additional viewing options posted here. Haiti Sports Forum (http://haitisports.com/forum/index)

Thanks  :beermug:

Can you post the links when you get them here...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 06, 2016, 09:44:35 AM
Look out for the man who will replace Nazon. He scored twice on T&T the last time  in the gold cup..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2l1WuEMYkw


I remember Maurice. He is a good player. 2 1/2 years ago he was playing regular top league football in France. He has kind of fallen off since.. I believe he is playing somewhere in the Cypriot league . So certainly a few steps below the level he was playing when he played against us. Still not the same player of 3 years ago. But can be a threat.

Our defence consists of some big strong youthful guys who never played in the 2013 game (with the exception of Mitchell and David) Maurice at 5"11 will find it difficult to break through Williams 6"2, Abu Bakr 6"4, Mitchell 6"2, David 6"3 Cyrus 6"4, Marshal 6"0.

We're lacking in the front with K9 Jones missing. But we shown that we can play well without him. Also out of our 17 goals scored this year, 8 have come from players who will be at the game on Friday. Out of Haiti's 13 goals scored, only 4 have come from players who will be at the game on Friday (not to mention that 6 of those goals have come against Grenada)  So we have a slight edge in that department.

I was surprised to see that Marcelin wasn't called up for Haiti. He is a good midfielder. He must be injured.

If Haiti wasn't missing all those key players, we will definitely be needing K9, Bateau and Molino.


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Toussaint on January 06, 2016, 10:53:51 AM
Right on Maurice. Marcelin joined the team yesterday.

Anyway, it will be an interesting match. A likely formation:

Ceus/Odelus
Jerome   Lafrance   Aveska    Jaggy
Alexandre   Norde     Hilaire
Millien   Belfort  Wedson

Maurice and Marcelin will likely start on the bench.

(The best way to watch the match is to use a smart DNS to trick the Internet so you can browse it like someone in Panama would. This way you will be able to watch Panamanian TV live. It is easy to do. Just google smart DNS and learn how to set your device)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 06, 2016, 11:34:54 AM
Right on Maurice. Marcelin joined the team yesterday.

Anyway, it will be an interesting match. A likely formation:

Ceus/Odelus
Jerome   Lafrance   Aveska    Jaggy
Alexandre   Norde     Hilaire
Millien   Belfort  Wedson

Maurice and Marcelin will likely start on the bench.

(The best way to watch the match is to use a smart DNS to trick the Internet so you can browse it like someone in Panama would. This way you will be able to watch Panamanian TV live. It is easy to do. Just google smart DNS and learn how to set your device)

Decent line up there Toussaint. Imagine what the team would gave been with the missing players. Explains why Haiti had a good game against Costa Rica despite losing 1-0.

I don't see us losing this game. I think 2-0 for the Soca warriors sounds about right.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: vb on January 06, 2016, 03:41:26 PM
no channel in TT bringing this game?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 06, 2016, 04:47:29 PM
no channel in TT bringing this game?


vb, what is the answer to the quiz. happy New Year!!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Tallman on January 06, 2016, 09:19:45 PM
WATCH: Coach Stephen Hart, and midfielders Khaleem Hyland and Andre Boucaud talk to the media before leaving for Panama
https://www.youtube.com/v/4g7faTcGdcM

WATCH: Soca Warriors arrive in Panama
https://www.youtube.com/v/hXUKsVe62IM
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on January 07, 2016, 12:37:57 AM

There is ALOT at stake in this match against Haiti. I hope the Warriors approach this game as if it was a World Cup qualifier!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on January 07, 2016, 05:27:34 AM
‘Warriors’ arrive in Panama for Copa America qualifier.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s team touched down in Panama City shortly after 9am on Wednesday ahead of Friday’s Copa America Centenario qualifying match versus Haiti at the Estadio Rommel Fernandez.

Head Coach Stephen Hart and his 22-man squad seemingly brought some Caribbean sunshine with them as the conditions have been mostly rainy and overcast in Panama for the past few days. The Haitian team which also arrived on Wednesday might have been thinking along the same lines as they no doubt came with the same intentions of grabbing a win on Friday night and booking their place in the prestigious Copa America.

The first order of business for the T&T team was the official welcome meeting during which a presentation against match fixing and other illegal practices were outlined. Meetings conducted by Concacaf officials were held with all four teams taking part in the playoff

T&T got a good feel of the playing surface in October when they defeated the hosts 2-1 in an international friendly and Iceland-based forward Jonathan Glenn, who laid the pass off to Kenwyne Jones for the opening item, believes that the “Soca Warriors” will definitely fancy their chances of a win on Friday.

“It’s going to be a bruising contest without a doubt because both teams know what is at stake and it’s like a Cup Final, win or nothing,” Glenn told TTFA Media shortly after the team’s arrival on Wednesday.

“But we should feel that we know the conditions here quite well, we know the ground and we know what to expect. We also know the Haiti team quite well so it’s going to be down to us to really put our heads together and pull off the result that we all want on Friday night,” he added.

T&T were scheduled to train at 8pm (9pm TT Time) on Wednesday at the Cascarita Tapia and would then have a session at the match venue at 5pm on the eve of the encounter.

“We knew we would maybe try to get in two good sessions here but this is why it was important to have everyone back at home for the period we did which turned out quite well,” Hart said.

“The focus now is going to be in relation to how we play the game on Friday. We’ll work on a couple things in training here but it’s just basically a couple sessions away from game time. We know what the task is and we know what our focus is going to be,” he added.

DirecTV W Connection’s Shahdon Winchester who came into the team as a replacement for Keron Cummings, admitted his excitement on being in Hart’s squad for the match, adding that he didn’t consider himself to be reserve call up.

“When I got the call I was excited and even though it was as a replacement, I was excited as though I got called in the first twenty three. I took it with a good heart and came into the session and try to give a hundred percent and do what the coach asked of me,” Winchester said.

“It was easy for me to fall into the team because there is a good bond and a lot of excitement. My aim is to perform in the game against Haiti and to be consistent and hopefully keep my place in the team,” he said.

T&T’s match with Haiti will kick off at 5:30pm (6:30pm TT time) on Friday followed by the second match between Cuba and Panama. Both winners will advance to the Copa America Centenario in the United States.

Videos: -

Watch the T&T Team Arrival in Panama City (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXUKsVe62IM&feature=youtu.be)

Hart, Boucaud and Hyland talk to the Press before leaving for Panama (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g7faTcGdcM)

RELATED NEWS

Positive Warriors ready for Haiti.
T&T Guardian Reports.


National coach Stephen Hart and members of the Soca Warriors leave today for the Copa America Centenario Berth match against Haiti in Panama City.

They took a 6 am flight, Copa 0315, enroute to the Central American nation following their final training session at the Hasely Crawford Stadium yesterday. Hart said he was very pleased with the attitude by the players and the energy levels they have shown during the sessions.

The Canada-based coach will leave with a 22-man team as he did not name a replacement for English-based defender Justin Hoyte, who was ruled out with a hamstring injury. Hart’s men were strengthened by the return of Orlando City midfielder Kevin Molino, who joined the team last week. He continues his recovery process following ACL surgery in May. Molino is targeting a return to play in March.

The team trained rigorously over the past week and according to Central FC midfielder Ataulla Guerra, the players are aiming to overcome Haiti, their next hurdle.

“The training camp has been quite intensive but very good for us. For me personally, I feel really good to be back after missing out the last couple games.

“We have a big task ahead but it is very important that we stay focused and treat this game with all the respect it deserves,” he said.

“Everyone is very eager to do well. We know what is at stake and the opportunity will be a great one. Day by day we are just putting in the work which I think will see us produce the kind of football on the pitch that will bring us the result we are looking for.”

Only two days ago the team received a visit from Keron Cummings, who was shot last Sunday and had to undergo surgery. Cummings said he wanted pledge his support for the team ahead of their play-off with the Haitians who have already named their squad for the match.

Manager William Wallace said the team was upbeat and ready to play in the Copa America Tournament which is being played in the United States for the first time. The team is expected to touch down in Panama at 8.20 am and will hit the training field at 6 this evening. Tomorrow the team will engage in two other training sessions before the match on Friday. Wallace said the players had indicated that they want to qualify for their injured teammate Cummings before they turn their attention to the World Cup Qualifiers.

The Soca Warriors have four points from two matches, following an impressive 2-1 victory over Guatemala and a goalless draw with the United States at the Hasely Crawford Stadium.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on January 07, 2016, 05:49:28 AM
Jones, Cato headline players in Copa playoffs.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).


T&T’s trio of Cordell Cato, Joevin Jones and Kevan George are among four players in the American MLS, called up to contest the Copa America Centenario playoffs tomorrow in Panama City.

Panama have called up San Jose Earthquake’s Anabel Godoy while T&T’s Yohance Marshall, Daneil Cyrus and Carlyle Mitchell have all played for MLS teams in the past. Panama’s Blas Perez and Jamie Penedo have also played in the MLS.

According to Jones, the MLS is producing good all-round players who continue to play on the international stage.

“It’s good for the league which is growing each season. For players like myself and Cordell (Cato), it’s quite exciting to be playing on the international stage with our national teams and having the chance to get into a tournament like the Copa America where we could compete against some of the best teams and best players in the world today.

“I think the league provides a good platform for players to get a break and improve their game and have the opportunity to move onto bigger things.”

Looking back at his season for Chicago Fire, Jones added: “We had a decent season but the ambition is to win. We’ve got a decent bunch of players and I think we’ll be looking to improve next season. The team is always looking to improve and the challenge of helping them finish better next season is one I think all the players are looking forward to.”

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Banter Banton on January 07, 2016, 11:11:34 AM
Any streams for tomorrow?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Toussaint on January 07, 2016, 11:55:55 AM
As promised, the following are the links I have found for you, guys:


Web links:

http://www.tvmax-9.com/en_vivo/

http://www.rpctv.com/en_directo/RPC-TV-Linea_7_635106484.html

TV Link:

Free TV: local broadcast Univision for people in USA

For people in the US with cable, NBC Deportes.

Of course, if you are in Haiti, the French Antilles, France you can watch it on Canal+ or Canalsat. They have traveled with the Haiti national team.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: truehaitian on January 07, 2016, 01:42:27 PM
Multiple links for games
Haiti vs. Trinidad
8-Jan-2016
5:30 PM
Panama City, Panama.

http://www.tvmax-9.com/en_vivo/

http://www.rpctv.com/en_directo/RPC-TV-Linea_7_635106484.html

TV Link: Canalsat (Haiti), NBC Deportes (USA) Univision (USA)


If you are in the US, you will be able to watch the game live on Univisión Deportes Network.

For the rest of us, Panamanian TV channels RPC and TV Max provide free live streaming.
http://www.rpctv.com/en_directo/RPC-TV-Linea_7_635106484.html
 

http://www.tvmax-9.com/en_vivo/

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Controversial on January 07, 2016, 02:37:12 PM
As promised, the following are the links I have found for you, guys:


Web links:

http://www.tvmax-9.com/en_vivo/

http://www.rpctv.com/en_directo/RPC-TV-Linea_7_635106484.html

TV Link:

Free TV: local broadcast Univision for people in USA

For people in the US with cable, NBC Deportes.

Of course, if you are in Haiti, the French Antilles, France you can watch it on Canal+ or Canalsat. They have traveled with the Haiti national team.


Thanks a lot brother...  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 07, 2016, 03:26:19 PM
Multiple links for games
Haiti vs. Trinidad
8-Jan-2016
5:30 PM
Panama City, Panama.

http://www.tvmax-9.com/en_vivo/

http://www.rpctv.com/en_directo/RPC-TV-Linea_7_635106484.html

TV Link: Canalsat (Haiti), NBC Deportes (USA) Univision (USA)


If you are in the US, you will be able to watch the game live on Univisión Deportes Network.

For the rest of us, Panamanian TV channels RPC and TV Max provide free live streaming.
http://www.rpctv.com/en_directo/RPC-TV-Linea_7_635106484.html
 

http://www.tvmax-9.com/en_vivo/



Thanks a lot truehaitian..

I was reading the Haitisports forum. The Haitian brothers label me as a Trini spy. I had to laugh.

One thing I like about you guys is all yuh dont get into the name calling and thing. Whenever we play our other regional rivals, some of the other fans/supporters does be quick to call us eediot and pus$yhole. You guys keep this rivalry professional. No name calling or bashing the other team culture. Some of the guys on here know what I talking about. Nuff respect!
Title: Preparation underpins T&T’s Copa America plans
Post by: Tallman on January 07, 2016, 06:55:55 PM
Preparation underpins T&T’s Copa America plans
CONCACAF.com


Trinidad and Tobago head coach Stephen Hart is leaving nothing to chance in advance of his team’s Copa America Centenario play-in match on Friday against Haiti at the Estadio Rommel Fernandez.

His strict attention to detail is necessary, especially since only the winner will advance to the historic competition, which will be contested June 3-26, 2016, in the United States.

“I think we have to do what we do well, be consistent with it, minimize our errors in crucial parts of the field where we could be punished and understand that this game will be a tight one and can possibly be won in the second half so we have to manage it properly,” said Hart. “It’s the nature of the game and we’ve practiced the penalty kicks. We know who are the responsible shooters, but in reality, when it comes to that situation it’s who feels they can kick. I cannot tell somebody to go and kick and their frame of mind is not one of confidence. I will try as best as possible not to reach that situation in our favor.”

None of the above is to say that the Soca Warriors are expecting a penalty-kick shootout to decide matters. Quite the contrary. They just want to be equipped for any and all eventualities.

“Yea, no doubt about it, our ultimate objective is to win tomorrow’s match and we are hoping to take care of business before it gets down to penalties,” defender Radanfah Abu Bakr said.

On Thursday morning, Hart had his squad train at the Estadio Maracana. It will gather again for one final session later in the afternoon.

“We’ve had some good time together and the sessions have been intense,” Abu Bakr finished. “I think we’re well prepared. One of the key aspects going for us over the last year is the player pool and the guys who have stepped in when a few other players have been injured, suspended or not available and I think it will be the same again tomorrow. We have enough talented players and the attitude is right.”
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on January 07, 2016, 08:12:29 PM
What time is this game on Fri? EST
After some research I found that the game is (20:36) UTC which is 3:36PM EST or 4:36PM TT. I'll wait for official confirmation though.

Looks like we play at 5:36pm EST. Currently, Panama time and EST are the same.

https://www.youtube.com/v/gjUgQ2PY0TM

(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1566_949961285072549_4651760402821818433_n.jpg?oh=fdbe0916859557c51d48fb2eb430222a&oe=57477B1B)


Seeking clarification. If the game is playing 530pm Panama Time, Then that would be 630pm TT. We are an hour ahead, not so? 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Tallman on January 07, 2016, 08:25:07 PM
Seeking clarification. If the game is playing 530pm Panama Time, Then that would be 630pm TT. We are an hour ahead, not so? 

Correct!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: hg495 on January 08, 2016, 12:04:22 AM
i found the game for DIRECTV for those who have direct tv... ts on 464 UNIHD LIVE FROM 525PM
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: soccerman on January 08, 2016, 12:23:23 AM
i found the game for DIRECTV for those who have direct tv... ts on 464 UNIHD LIVE FROM 525PM

Wonderful! I get that channel, good looking out.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on January 08, 2016, 04:45:40 AM
‘Warriors’ play for Copa spot... stage set for contest with Haiti.
By Shaun Fuentes (TTFA).


Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior Men’s Team will have it all to play for when they face off with Haiti in a win or nothing Copa America Centenario qualifying match at the Estadio Rommel Fernandez from 5:30pm (6:30pm TT time) on Friday. Cuba takes on hosts Panama in the second game from 8pm.

At stake is a place in the historic Copa America Centenario where some of the world’s best team with their marquee players will be participating. The likes of Argentina, Uruguay, Colombia, Ecuador, Brazil, Unites States, Mexico and Costa Rica will be awaiting the winner of the encounter. It is surely where Radanfah Abu Bakr and his teammates will want to be in June.

“Yea, no doubt about it, our ultimate objective is to win tomorrow’s match and we are hoping to take care of business before it gets down to penalties,” Abu Bakr told TTFA Media following an early morning training session at the Maracana Artificial surface stadium on Thursday.

Skipper Kenwyne Jones and Sheldon Bateau are missing due to club commitments while Keron Cummings, Justin Hoyte and Willis Plaza are all out through injury. But the team has several players who have carried their weight in 2015 such as Joevin Jones, Cordell Cato, Abu Bakr, goalkeepers Jan Michael Williams and Marvin Phillip, Andre Boucaud, Kevan George, Daneil Cyrus, Aubrey David, Mekeil Williams, Khaleem Hyland and Jonathan Glenn among others with the likes Neveal Hackshaw, Jomal Williams and Shahdon Winchester capable of adding strong support.

“We’ve had some good time together and the sessions have been intense. I think we’re well prepared. One of the key aspects going for us over the last year is the player pool and the guys who have stepped in when a few other players have been injured, suspended or not available and I think it will be the same again tomorrow. We have enough talented players and the attitude is right,” Abu Bakr added.

The Denmark-based defender was among the scorers during the shootout when T&T lost to Panama at the Gold Cup quarter finals where a win would have pushed T&T through to the Copa America.

Hart commented : “I think we have to do what we do well, be consistent with it, minimize our errors in crucial parts of the field where we could be punished and understand that this game will be a tight one and can possibly be won in the second half so we have to manage it properly.

“It’s the nature of the game and we’ve practiced the penalty kicks. We know who are the responsible shooters but in reality when it comes to that situation it’s who feels they can kick. I cannot tell somebody to go and kick and their frame of mind is not once confidence. I will try as best as possible not to reach that situation in our favour.”

San Jose Earthquakes forward Cordell Cato described the encounter as beyond huge.

“The team is definitely ready for the game. Everyone is mentally and physical ready for it so it’s just about getting the business done tomorrow. The game is beyond huge if I can use that term. To be able to qualify for this tournament will be a major step for Trinidad and Tobago,” Cato said.

And fellow MLS-based professional, Joevin Jones believes T&T can turn out a winning performance.

“I feel very good at the moment. The mood in the camp is excellent, the love is there and everyone has each other’s back at the moment. We all want to advance to the Copa America in June and hopefully our performance will get us that spot tomorrow.

T&T will have a 45-minute session at the game venue on Thursday evening. The conditions have been quite humid in Panama City over the past two days and similar is expected on game day.

T&T will play in all white and it was announced at the pre-game match coordination meeting that cautions or red cards for the winning team will carry over to the Copa America while the same will carry over to the next official international match or World Cup qualifier for the losing team from tomorrow’s encounter. The game will head to extra-time and penalty kicks if necessary to determine a winner.

The Haitians meantime, will have at least nine players in its team tomorrow from the line up which lost 1-0 at home to Jamaica in a World Cup qualifier in November. Those include French-based midfielder Max Hilaire and Turkish-based forward Kervens Belfort. French-based striker Duckens Nazon will miss the game after failing to be released by his club Stade Lavallois. Nazon scored the equalizing goal in Haiti’s draw with Panama at the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup.

In a statement, Nazon said: “My dear compatriots and dear teammates. It is with great sadness that I announce that I will not be present at the qualifying match against Trinidad. I thank the coach and coaching staff of the national selection for their efforts with my club to release me for this match of great importance to me and to us all. This game is not positioned during the FIFA dates. My club has decided, as is its right, not to release me for this game. Although it pains me, I respect this decision motivated by the injury of the club’s striker. I have to be ready to play. I offer to the national team my full support for this match. I know my teammates have the quality and determination to get this qualification. Come on, guys, take us to the Copa America!”

Video: - Watch today’s Video Update as the T&T team prepares for Haiti (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMocmDbuOEM&feature=youtu.be)

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The Warriors must show their motion.
By Alvin Corneal (Guardian).


With the year 2015 behind us all, the search for an exciting 2016 is facing the Soca Warriors. The general consensus regarding the improvement of the team has been given a good rating, which means that the days ahead starting with tonight’s match against Haiti, has to provide our people with consistency and positive results.

I am certain that the schedule which is now appearing before our squad, could probably end up as a definite trend as to whether our players are now physically, psychologically and mentally ready to plan for the entire year.

The first hurdle is tonight’s contest against Haiti in Panama. Under normal circumstances, the emphasis may not appear to be one of immense value, as the Haitians have not been one of the Caribbean teams which have defeated the Warriors in recent times.

A victory for Stephen Hart and his team will bring a guarantee to participate in the inaugural Copa America tournament which will bring together the South American giants of World Soccer up against the best of Concacaf.

It is clear that the renewed frame of mind on the part of the players has been different from previous occasions. The change of the leadership at the TTFA seem to have convinced the new government that their financial input into the program was of paramount importance in order to have the players in a great frame of mind.

From the initial decision to withdraw their services unless they received their outstanding monies, through dialogue with the relevant persons, the group were able to focus on their two sessions daily under the watchful eyes of the coaching staff whose performances over the past year have been commended by the TTFA and the fans as well.

Misfortune over a shooting incident which involved the newest star Keron Cummings, an injury to Sheldon Bateau, and the absence of skipper Kenwyne Jones because of his recent change of clubs, may appear to be some type of set back as far as this trio had shown in almost every match.

However, there were also certain talented players who were previously injured and are now fit enough to join the squad. My recollection of the performances of Haiti in the Caribbean tournament played in Jamaica and the Gold Cup, was surprisingly very good and they appeared to have come a long way with their present group of players.

Their Gold Cup  sounded a serious bell to all the others, but in this case, T&T especially. There is no room for lethargy, or simple errors. It is one game which is literally a knock out. It is the type of game where immediate focus is valuable and intensity has to be the major rule for each player.

Maybe we should realise that victory in this match will give the team the right spirit to breeze past St. Vincent twice in March and  continue to take care of Guatemala at home, results which will make no difference whether or not the USA win their match when the warriors are away to them.

Straight into these matches will be the Copa America series which to my mind, is probably the most prestigious opportunity in a lifetime. So excuses have been removed, the fans are optimistic, the players are comfortable with the payment pattern, and Haiti’s history of beating us have not been achieved in recent times.

Performance always beat ole talk, according to the old folks, and we must all hope that it applies to this game and our team.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: dreamer on January 08, 2016, 07:26:01 AM
Folks, this is it ... part 1 (for qualification to play in the Copa) ...
but at the same time there is a this-is-it part 2 (to qualify for the hex and World Cup).
Getting through part 1 will give us just what we need in terms of top quality games to sharpen for WC qualification, as a broke TTFA could not afford to easily arrange an equivalent schedule of friendlies.
So yes there is pressure on the boys, but doh stiffen up, as all is not lost if we lose to Haiti. There is still lots more to play for.
Still I see those Warriors as so hungry that they will conquer tonight after diggin' real deep.
Go Warriors, we are praying for you all.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Adam Lake on January 08, 2016, 07:46:23 AM
i found the game for DIRECTV for those who have direct tv... ts on 464 UNIHD LIVE FROM 525PM

Sweet!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Toussaint on January 08, 2016, 08:31:18 AM


Quote from: gawd on pitch

Decent line up there Toussaint. Imagine what the team would gave been with the missing players. Explains why Haiti had a good game against Costa Rica despite losing 1-0.

I don't see us losing this game. I think 2-0 for the Soca warriors sounds about right.

No doubt we are the underdogs tonight. A new coach with no experience in the region, so many missing players...
However, we will give you a fight. Anyway, I expect a good and entertaining game from both teams. The winner will have my support at the Copa America but, of course, I hope it's Haiti.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Toussaint on January 08, 2016, 08:36:13 AM
i found the game for DIRECTV for those who have direct tv... ts on 464 UNIHD LIVE FROM 525PM

Sweet!
If you're not in the US, you should use my links. They will show the match in HD at 5:30 pm.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Touches on January 08, 2016, 10:14:13 AM
Let us remember this is attempt number three to qualify for a Copa America.

We blew the first chance on a penalty shootout with Jamaica in the Caribbean Cup Final.

The second chance went in the Gold Cup.

We will get it right this time.

We have improved since then...guidance and effort!

Lets go #warriorstimeisnow
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 08, 2016, 10:33:13 AM
Let us remember this is attempt number three to qualify for a Copa America.

We blew the first chance on a penalty shootout with Jamaica in the Caribbean Cup Final.

The second chance went in the Gold Cup.

We will get it right this time.

We have improved since then...guidance and effort!

Lets go #warriorstimeisnow

That's right. We have improved tremendously since the Jamaica game. We taking this one. I seeing 2 goals in the first half or 1 in the first and 1 in the second. Trinidad and Tobago wins 2-0. Party done. On to Copa 2016!!!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Flex on January 08, 2016, 11:07:47 AM
Chat room is available, join the lime, 5pm today.

SWO Chat Room (http://www.socawarriors.net/fanzone/interactive/chat.html).

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Tallman on January 08, 2016, 12:29:48 PM
WATCH: The final countdown to the Copa América Centenario playoff match between Trinidad and Tobago and Haiti
https://www.youtube.com/v/wMocmDbuOEM
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 02:00:30 PM
Come Warriors Let's do this. :wavetowel:


Isasha should re do let's do this. With the right lyrics this song can become the warriors anthem for this WC campaign .  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNesq_P4luE&spfreload=10
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: vb on January 08, 2016, 02:10:57 PM
I am confirming that the game is at 6:30 pm TT time.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on January 08, 2016, 02:37:02 PM
Come Warriors Let's do this. :wavetowel:


Isasha should re do let's do this. With the right lyrics this song can become the warriors anthem for this WC campaign .  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNesq_P4luE&spfreload=10

Yeah, ah feel he/someone could pull that off without any partisan residue.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: pull stones on January 08, 2016, 02:56:52 PM
is this the game venue, astroturf?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on January 08, 2016, 02:57:23 PM
is this the game venue, astroturf?

No.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Big Magician on January 08, 2016, 03:00:07 PM
tnt tnt tnt tnt tnt tnt
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Tallman on January 08, 2016, 03:11:24 PM
LIVE TV: Digicel SportsMax 2

LIVE STREAMS:
http://www.tvmax-9.com/en_vivo/
http://www.rpctv.com/en_directo/RPC-TV-Linea_7_635106484.html

Kick-off:  5:30pm EST (6:30pm T&T)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Socapro on January 08, 2016, 03:20:35 PM
Ok folks, I am just double checking that the game will kick off in just over 1 hour's time since T&T is 1 hour ahead of Panama.

Is that correct?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: frico on January 08, 2016, 03:27:53 PM
Come Warriors Let's do this. :wavetowel:


Isasha should re do let's do this. With the right lyrics this song can become the warriors anthem for this WC campaign .  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNesq_P4luE&spfreload=10
Good idea to re-do the lyrics,is a nice chune with som beautiful visuals.It sounds like a better chune if used as a PNM anthem.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 08, 2016, 03:29:03 PM
Ok folks, I am just double checking that the game will kick off in just over 1 hour's time since T&T is 1 hour ahead of Panama.

Is that correct?

Thats right Soca. It will be a late night for you. Game starting 10:30 uk time.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 08, 2016, 03:48:43 PM
Haiti starting 11

1-Steward Ceus (GK)
3- Mechack Jérôme
6-Frantz Bertin
5-Alex Christian
2- Stéphane Lambese
19- Max Hilaire
14- Soni Mustivar
13- Kevin LaFrance
16- Jean Marc Alexandre
10- Jean Eudes Maurice
9- Kervens Fils Belfort

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Sam on January 08, 2016, 04:07:30 PM
We in de chat room allyuh... real f00cking kicks,

http://www.socawarriors.net/fanzone/interactive/chat.html

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: frico on January 08, 2016, 04:14:46 PM
Haiti seems to always "flatter to deceive",very good technical team and skillful,Istill feel we have their number even with the team we have.
TT 2 Haiti 1.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Tallman on January 08, 2016, 04:30:20 PM
Trinidad and Tobago’s starting XI vs Haiti:
21. Jan-Michael Williams (capt.)
17. Mekeil Williams
6. Radanfah Abu Bakr
12. Carlyle Mitchell
5. Daneil Cyrus
3. Joevin Jones
8. Khaleem Hyland
14. Andre Boucaud
19. Kevan George
23. Lester Peltier
7. Jonathan Glenn
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Brownsugar on January 08, 2016, 04:32:41 PM
This is game decides who goes into the Copa right??  No 1st leg and 2nd leg game right?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: fari on January 08, 2016, 04:32:46 PM
link wukkin good...merci beaucoup Toussaint!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: fari on January 08, 2016, 04:32:53 PM
This is game decides who goes into the Copa right??  No 1st leg and 2nd leg game right?

yup
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: sweetiepaper on January 08, 2016, 04:49:03 PM
Any English Commentary feeds?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Peong on January 08, 2016, 04:50:26 PM
Rpc link wukkin on meh phone! :wavetowel:

Thanks
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Trini _2026 on January 08, 2016, 05:06:19 PM
them men chasing shAdows
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: sweetiepaper on January 08, 2016, 05:09:46 PM
Ok it now on Sportsmax 2
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 05:10:18 PM
T&T has a new keeper named Jan Michael Phillips
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 05:11:08 PM
Ok it now on Sportsmax 2

is sportsmax English?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: chelsealife on January 08, 2016, 05:13:07 PM
Ok it now on Sportsmax 2

is sportsmax English?
yea ah Jamaican commentator
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: de_redman on January 08, 2016, 05:14:41 PM
Sigh... Looks like a long night
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: chelsealife on January 08, 2016, 05:16:04 PM
Game slow and boring 💤
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 05:17:18 PM
Ok it now on Sportsmax 2

is sportsmax English?
yea ah Jamaican commentator

link please ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: chelsealife on January 08, 2016, 05:18:24 PM
Ok it now on Sportsmax 2

is sportsmax English?
yea ah Jamaican commentator

link please ?
On TV sorry. Don't have a link
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on January 08, 2016, 05:23:37 PM
lethargic football at best. we don't seem very motivated
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on January 08, 2016, 05:24:05 PM
Come Warriors Let's do this. :wavetowel:


Isasha should re do let's do this. With the right lyrics this song can become the warriors anthem for this WC campaign .  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNesq_P4luE&spfreload=10

This song I posting here for you will always be the Soca Warriors anthem and this is the motivation  :beermug:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC1mSOY1hmI
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on January 08, 2016, 05:24:43 PM

Let me guess T&T went in this game underestimating Haiti smh
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 08, 2016, 05:27:40 PM
0-0. Haiti gk just made a brilliant save to keep the sheet clean.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: fitzinho on January 08, 2016, 05:37:11 PM
Who win?!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Sam on January 08, 2016, 05:40:38 PM
Cato should come on for Peltier and Guerra for George.

De fellas looking like they f00ck whole night.

Man bun.

I expect a better second half.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: chelsealife on January 08, 2016, 05:47:48 PM
And Rundell for Glenn
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on January 08, 2016, 05:52:48 PM


De fellas looking like they f00ck whole night.



lol.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: legal alien on January 08, 2016, 05:54:13 PM
Thanks for the link, Toussaint. RPC, a link I can finally see overseas online.Those two teams looking a little tired. I mean I just tuned in from the 50th minute, so I dunno if dey bun out since first half
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 08, 2016, 05:54:19 PM
We mid eh doing much at all.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 05:54:27 PM
Haiti dominating us now.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on January 08, 2016, 05:57:54 PM
nice interplay!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 06:06:28 PM
We looking good on the counter attacks.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: fitzinho on January 08, 2016, 06:09:27 PM
Lacking in midfield
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Jumbie on January 08, 2016, 06:13:56 PM
Babwah needs ah hoverboard
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 06:15:35 PM
We will win 1nil.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 06:18:41 PM
T&T looking tired now.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Trini Madness on January 08, 2016, 06:20:00 PM
We missing Cummings. We need some spark in the midfield. When is Hart going to bring in Guerra?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: fitzinho on January 08, 2016, 06:22:55 PM
Smfh
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: socachynee on January 08, 2016, 06:23:57 PM
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
goal Haitians :banginghead:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 08, 2016, 06:24:14 PM
That's it. They had 3 tries at this. And Jan!!!! Lawd!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on January 08, 2016, 06:24:21 PM
goal haiti. can't see us coming back with the attitude we have on the pitch. adios copa!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 06:24:43 PM
What a shit goal  :cursing:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 06:27:18 PM
nice save by Haiti
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Jumbie on January 08, 2016, 06:27:58 PM
disappointing. Jan boi! (not to single him out eh..but)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on January 08, 2016, 06:28:49 PM
this is not the never-say-die side we saw in the gold cup and concacaf qualifying. these guys have nothing in the tank. haiti just wanted it more.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Quags on January 08, 2016, 06:31:22 PM
Ah crap in the dregs them concede , them really eint want to go copa boy.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 06:31:48 PM
 :bs:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Peong on January 08, 2016, 06:32:24 PM
God boy steups. We look for that eh. Slow play like we up 4-0
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: sub1 on January 08, 2016, 06:32:27 PM
Cyrus....why is he on a national team. He sets the tempo for how much shit we will play. I wish I knew what Hart sees in this man.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: legal alien on January 08, 2016, 06:33:10 PM
the  silver lining- we- TnT- can concentrate all our energy on World cup qualifying
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Spursy on January 08, 2016, 06:33:41 PM
lets not bash the guys. we had chances it was just not our night.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: de_redman on January 08, 2016, 06:34:18 PM
We look for dat! Steups... I'm outta here!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: lefty on January 08, 2016, 06:34:46 PM
the  silver lining- we- TnT- can concentrate all our energy on World cup qualifying

dem games coulda help we tune up.........whey d chemistry gone
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: soccerman on January 08, 2016, 06:35:20 PM
3 strike and out!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: lefty on January 08, 2016, 06:35:50 PM
dem fellas didn' look right tonight at all
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: fitzinho on January 08, 2016, 06:36:32 PM
Wasn't the team we saw in Gold cup nah.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: fitzinho on January 08, 2016, 06:38:07 PM
We need to learn from tonight. The chemistry was off, spacing between midfield and offense was huge. Feel like they missed KJ
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: trini_stallion on January 08, 2016, 06:38:08 PM
Jan does save some wicked shots...but does shit heself on sitters....


Real disappointment tonight!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 08, 2016, 06:38:41 PM
They just did not have it. It just was not there tonight, at all, at all.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 08, 2016, 06:39:51 PM
We need to learn from tonight. The chemistry was off, spacing between midfield and offense was huge. Feel like they missed KJ

Nah, the mid field was lacking tonight. Real bad!!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Socapro on January 08, 2016, 06:39:58 PM
lets not bash the guys. we had chances it was just not our night.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on January 08, 2016, 06:41:20 PM
Félicitations à nos frères haïtiens.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: lefty on January 08, 2016, 06:41:33 PM
We need to learn from tonight. The chemistry was off, spacing between midfield and offense was huge. Feel like they missed KJ
....and someone to command d CAM and wings.....winchester looked useless for the most part....and why no Cato
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: sub1 on January 08, 2016, 06:42:10 PM
The team did look flat.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: sub1 on January 08, 2016, 06:43:49 PM
We need to learn from tonight. The chemistry was off, spacing between midfield and offense was huge. Feel like they missed KJ
....and someone to command d He foughtCAM and wings.....winchester looked useless for the most part....and why no Cato

I thought Winchester looked good. He fought a lot. Glenn was off.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on January 08, 2016, 06:44:17 PM
congrats haiti on a well deserved win. worst t&t performance in a long time. even the coach and his staff seemed deflated the entire game.

these players have proven more than capable facing much stronger opponents. i have to wonder how much the serial-screw-ups/sabotage by the ttfa and the cummings incident played into this...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: lefty on January 08, 2016, 06:44:33 PM
Jan does save some wicked shots...but does shit heself on sitters....


Real disappointment tonight!

my stream freeze just before to ball reach d haitian strikier and I jus knew it was a goal if he made contact even if jan could do better
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Brownsugar on January 08, 2016, 06:44:42 PM
Ah well it was fun while it lasted...... :'( :'(
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Trini Madness on January 08, 2016, 06:45:22 PM
This hurts, I really wanted these guys to play against the likes of Brazil, Argentina etc. I agree too it seems like they missed kenwyne. Cummings would've handled that attacking midfield role, guerra too. Cato would've injected life into the team if he came on.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: dreamer on January 08, 2016, 07:00:45 PM
Before the demolition crew takes over ...

Very sad loss for a team that seemed to me to be trying very hard and was excellent at playing ball under pressure against a very physical Haiti. I thought our ball possession and one touch and first touch under pressure was better than ever before actually. Yes we did miss KJ and Plaza up front for those crosses, free kicks and several crosses into the box, and we did miss Ball-pest and Molino and Guerra (latter also recovering from injury), Everybody played well in my opinion. Jan was sensational except for one unlucky deflection-shift-the-wrong-way-goal. I see no need to bash Cyrus. We proved that even without Bateau, Carlysle Mitchell has re-established himself as a solid centerback, and showed he can handle stuff at this level. Remember he was our top central defender before he was sent off to exile in Korea and before Bateau came knocking on the door and Radanfah upped his game.

We will miss playing in the Copa. I grieve but it was not meant to be, and there is still football to play for. This team is showing very good midfield and defense depth (no Justin Hoyte, no Bateau), with need to get more depth in the potent strikers and replacements for Ball pest. Good news is that we will be seeing Molino by march 2016.

Good coaching tactics by BraveHart in my opinion. The loss makes it look like we were supposed to lose or inferior but I don't see it that way. Haiti is trouble always. Their keeper was scrappy but had wicked reflexes for every shot, deflection and potential own goal coming his way.
A for effort my Warriors. I know it hurts. No sweat, chin up and attack with full force against Vincy in the next 2 World Cup qualifiers.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: sweetiepaper on January 08, 2016, 07:09:47 PM
Clearly men stale drunk after the Christmas. We just drift through the game especially second half. No fitness at all.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Tallman on January 08, 2016, 07:10:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/zjV866dA1Uw
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: socalion on January 08, 2016, 07:19:45 PM
Before the demolition crew takes over ...

Very sad loss for a team that seemed to me to be trying very hard and was excellent at playing ball under pressure against a very physical Haiti. I thought our ball position and one touch and first touch under pressure was better than ever before actually. Yes we did miss KJ and Plaza up front for those crosses, free kicks and several crosses into the box, and we did miss Ball-pest and Molino and Guerra (latter also recovering from injury), Everybody played well in my opinion. Jan was sensational except for one unlucky defection-shift-the-wrong-way-goal. I see no need to bash Cyrus. We proved that even without Bateau, Carlysle Mitchell has re-established himself as a solid centerback, and showed he can handle stuff at this level. Remember he was our top central defender before he was sent off to exile in Korea and before Bateau came knocking on the door and Radanfah upped his game.

We will miss playing in the Copa. I grieve but it was not meant to be, but there is still football to play for. This team is showing very good midfield and defense depth (no Justin Hoyte, no Bateau), with need to get more depth in the potent strikers and replacements for Ball pest. Good news is that we will be seeing Molino by march 2016.

Good coaching tactics by BraveHart in my opinion. The loss makes it look like we were supposed to lose or inferior but I don't see it that way. Haiti is trouble always. Their keeper was scrappy but had wicked reflexes for every shot, deflection and potential own goal coming his way.
A for effort my Warriors. I know it hurts. No sweat, chin up and attack with full force against Vincy in the next 2 World Cup qualifiers.
         Nice  feedback dreamer........  As for our warriors and coaching staff keep your heads up  tough luck this time around ... there are alot of football ahead ..... russia world cup .qualifiers next !  Congrats to haiti 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: truehaitian on January 08, 2016, 07:22:45 PM
Félicitations à nos frères haïtiens.  :beermug:
MERCI BEAUCOUP!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: lefty on January 08, 2016, 07:33:28 PM
Lacked imagination and enterprise in the middle,  hyland does OK as a stop gap 10 but isn't in the same league as keron or molino for movement therefore does not draw defenders to him as effectively so no space was being created for others........
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: pull stones on January 08, 2016, 07:44:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/zjV866dA1Uw
i say if we can't best teams like this then we have no right in the copa. For that matter I'm kind of happy that we lost because people was already getting besides themselves like we won the hold cup, and simply because we had some good results, like when hart told the lads that they have not achieved anything yet, truer words.

On another not. The #12 and 15 should never play for us ever again with that amateur display of poor defending, one for allowing the cross to leave the boy boots and the other for allowing the striker to touch that ball.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Tallman on January 08, 2016, 08:12:28 PM
WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago’s 1-0 loss to Haiti
https://www.youtube.com/v/RGC_KaO3vzE
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 08, 2016, 08:36:21 PM
i say if we can't beat teams like this then we have no right in the copa.

true dat!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 08:45:53 PM
I had to log out and cool myself down. I just could not see us not playing in the Copa.
This is just how I felt after our women did not reach the WC. And they mirror each other too. Both teams had three chances to make it. Both teams missed out on penalties . And both teams lost it late on weak goals in their third and final chace.  :'( >:( :(  :-\  I need a stiff drink. I going with ah LLB instead of my usual malta.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: dreamer on January 08, 2016, 08:52:36 PM
I had to log out and cool myself down. I just could not see us not playing in the Copa.
This is just how I felt after our women did not reach the WC. And they mirror each other too. Both teams had three chances to make it. Both teams missed out on penalties . And both teams lost it late on weak goals in their third and final chace.  :'( >:( :(  :-\  I need a stiff drink. I going with ah LLB instead of my usual malta.

Ah hear yuh. This football is real presshah to watch, and damn cruel for the players, but it is still a privilege to see T&T on TV participating
If I had to choose between seeing T&T playing with a loss vs not playing, I would still want to see us play in qualifiers like this.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: pull stones on January 08, 2016, 08:58:24 PM
i say if we can't beat teams like this then we have no right in the copa.

true dat!
deeks these guys truly behave like they don't know the game sometimes. Any fool would tell you that when you are stretched you never allow a cross to enter your box, let alone have an attacking player touch a ball in you final third. The two defenders allow this one player a shot with the #12 defending on the wrong side of the attacker, while the #15 player gave the attacker ample time to line up the cross especially in the dying stages of the game, shame on them. Give these guys a few weeks off and they gone mad forgetting everything they learned.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 08, 2016, 09:08:56 PM
i say if we can't beat teams like this then we have no right in the copa.

true dat!
deeks these guys truly behave like they don't know the game sometimes. Any fool would tell you that when you are stretched you never allow a cross to enter your box, let alone have an attacking player touch a ball in you final third. The two defenders allow this one player a shot with the #12 defending on the wrong side of the attacker, while the #15 player gave the attacker ample time to line up the cross especially in the dying stages of the game, shame on them. Give these guys a few weeks off and they gone mad forgetting everything they learned.

Except for the couple of counter attacks which almost resulted in us scoring about 3 goal, our players lack vision. Without the mid field control, we were done four. We missed Cummings and Cato(he may be nursing some kind of injury, I don't know). Our mids were notenterprising enough. The Haitians were always probing. Making short passes. Moving into spaces. As you said, we forgot everything after the GC. I am depressed. I wanted us to play in the Copa badly. Like we not ready for prime time. Jeez!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: soccerman on January 08, 2016, 09:13:14 PM
Still can't believe we lost like that :frustrated:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: che on January 08, 2016, 09:24:03 PM
I am glad to see that there are not too many overly negative post about our guys. Because if we as fans are hurting so much think about how much this is hurting those guys right now. I am trying to find the positives in a loss like that, The best that  I could come up with is this. After a lost like that those guys will never want to have that kind of feeling again and it will inspire them to do even better next time. They should now be even more hungry to reach the WC.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: 100% Barataria on January 08, 2016, 10:02:39 PM
I am glad to see that there are not too many overly negative post about our guys. Because if we as fans are hurting so much think about how much this is hurting those guys right now. I am trying to find the positives in a loss like that, The best that  I could come up with is this. After a lost like that those guys will never want to have that kind of feeling again and it will inspire them to do even better next time. They should now be even more hungry to reach the WC.


Same was said after the loss to Panama in the GC...part of it for us is mental, when it comes to crunch time, our statistics aren't very encouraging...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: socalion on January 08, 2016, 10:24:11 PM
It's unfrigging believable  and even more hurtful to  hear and read  ( some ) of the comments  directed at the team after the loss to haiti ,   .... fellas  and ladies we all wanted  to see we team in the copa tournament  but on this day  it wasn't to be .... ah hurting real bad too ..... as i know it surely would have  been  useful to qualify for such a prestigious event / the copa....   Dem guys went through alot lately the entire team so as such ah could only say hard luck fellas  .....keep yuh heads up let this be  a lesson learned ...           Ah know  meh fellow forumites hurting  over de loss  .... but lets try to keep things positive   for the team / players sake ...........on a side. Wishng Keron
cummings  a speedy recovery
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Spursy on January 08, 2016, 10:37:11 PM
Before the demolition crew takes over ...

Very sad loss for a team that seemed to me to be trying very hard and was excellent at playing ball under pressure against a very physical Haiti. I thought our ball possession and one touch and first touch under pressure was better than ever before actually. Yes we did miss KJ and Plaza up front for those crosses, free kicks and several crosses into the box, and we did miss Ball-pest and Molino and Guerra (latter also recovering from injury), Everybody played well in my opinion. Jan was sensational except for one unlucky deflection-shift-the-wrong-way-goal. I see no need to bash Cyrus. We proved that even without Bateau, Carlysle Mitchell has re-established himself as a solid centerback, and showed he can handle stuff at this level. Remember he was our top central defender before he was sent off to exile in Korea and before Bateau came knocking on the door and Radanfah upped his game.

We will miss playing in the Copa. I grieve but it was not meant to be, and there is still football to play for. This team is showing very good midfield and defense depth (no Justin Hoyte, no Bateau), with need to get more depth in the potent strikers and replacements for Ball pest. Good news is that we will be seeing Molino by march 2016.

Good coaching tactics by BraveHart in my opinion. The loss makes it look like we were supposed to lose or inferior but I don't see it that way. Haiti is trouble always. Their keeper was scrappy but had wicked reflexes for every shot, deflection and potential own goal coming his way.
A for effort my Warriors. I know it hurts. No sweat, chin up and attack with full force against Vincy in the next 2 World Cup qualifiers.

 :beermug: I thought we played very well. It was hard for Coach Hart to prepare tactically against the Haitians. With a new coach, we knew nothing about how they would play and Hart didn't want them running at us, so we flood the midfield and went at them. We were unlucky, Haiti absorb the pressure and they were more physically prepared and had a game plan. It's easy to look at our team and predict what would be the situation upfront - we had many chances but most importantly while been solid at the back the team was able to create chances. I thought we rush de brush tonite. no finesse.. sometimes just a little patience and less panic when frustrated is important in games like these.

I thought MOM was that Haitian keeper, it was going to take something special to beat him tonite.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on January 08, 2016, 10:57:20 PM

T&T don't deserve to be in Copa.. and as usual we have people making excuses for another poor result.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Sando prince on January 08, 2016, 11:06:45 PM
It's unfrigging believable  and even more hurtful to  hear and read  ( some ) of the comments  directed at the team after the loss to haiti ,   .... fellas  and ladies we all wanted  to see we team in the copa tournament  but on this day  it wasn't to be .... ah hurting real bad too ..... as i know it surely would have  been  useful to qualify for such a prestigious event / the copa....   Dem guys went through alot lately the entire team so as such ah could only say hard luck fellas  .....keep yuh heads up let this be  a lesson learned ...           Ah know  meh fellow forumites hurting  over de loss  .... but lets try to keep things positive   for the team / players sake ...........on a side. Wishng Keron
cummings  a speedy recovery

Yuh right yes. 

Aye allyuh don't say anything negative in here dem boys will cry so leh we stay positive and not think or say anything about all the mistakes and errors the national team make in a crucial match eh, let us just sit back and wish for ah better performance next time eh

.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: MEP on January 08, 2016, 11:34:41 PM
This teams deserves to be criticized. We have seen what they are capable of both team wise and individually. This performance was less than mediocre and no one including fans should accept that. The team showed a lack of focus, they looked unfit, defensively we were out of sorts poor 1v1 and even worse 1v2. In this game there seemed to be a lack of communication along with a general lack of understanding of what to do when we had the ball.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 08, 2016, 11:35:41 PM
I am glad to see that there are not too many overly negative post about our guys.

Breds, this not the Womens or U16, U19. This is the seniors. Professionals. They blew it. 3 opportunities.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: MEP on January 08, 2016, 11:45:32 PM
Still not too late to try to get Nick Deleon...think about what his work rate may have added in a game like this
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 09, 2016, 12:39:06 AM
Still not too late to try to get Nick Deleon...think about what his work rate may have added in a game like this

If he was interested he would have made himself available.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: pull stones on January 09, 2016, 12:50:56 AM
I'm so depressed that I fell asleep at my computer and just woke up. Kind of reminded of my old villa days when Yorke left for Man united. As for these players, I knew we was in trouble when the players threatened to strike and the headlines were "warriors pull out of the copa". I wonder if these guys threw the game on purpose to teach the federation a lesson?

These players and the federation need to get it together.Players cannot be distracted with all the ins and outs of football strife going into a massive game like this, it is a huge distraction. This is reminiscent of what happened in Guyana a few years ago, we had no Prayer for the Guyanese. This is unacceptable, I could only imagine how the coach feel? Imagine a professional on a boat ride the night before camp when he should have been in his bed prepping for the weeks ahead. These players not focused in the least. This is unacceptable.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Savannah boy on January 09, 2016, 01:13:42 AM
The objective is clear to make the World Cup. I doh want no testimonial Cup playing team like Brazil and collecting ah dozen. We need to play big teams regular and I see no evidence that the powers to be can make this happen. I go eat some popcorn and watch Haiti and dem get cut arse. Yes ah bad mind. I will never call dem my Caribbean brothers. Dat ship sail in 1974. That's the only reason ah wanted us to stick it to dem today. Same for Yanks for the 1989 stain.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: asylumseeker on January 09, 2016, 01:29:08 AM
Thread gehhin high on emotion, but low on objectivity.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: pull stones on January 09, 2016, 02:27:53 AM
Thread gehhin high on emotion, but low on objectivity.
have you ever noticed that we match up better with Latin teams than regional teams? Reflect on our negative results of late and you would see CFU team sticking it to us in must win matches. Jamaica, Haiti, surename in the early years, Bermuda, Guyana, Grenada, all poisoned us in must win games, and I bet you that st Vincent would pose more opposition than guatemala come this march.

When we play these teams we have to go into these games with a brutal mind set instead of taking them lightly.

Side note. This post was in reply to savannah boy, sorry asylumseeker I clicked on the wrong quote.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: frico on January 09, 2016, 05:13:08 AM
We still cannot play football for 90 minutes,nuff said.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Brownsugar on January 09, 2016, 06:10:37 AM
Sooooo uuuuuuummmm not to sour the vibes further but which team from the other game went through??
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Touches on January 09, 2016, 06:24:52 AM
We play a collective pack of ass last night.

Them fellas looked like they drink rum and run hoes the night before.

Moving slow slow with no urgency.

It is a mental thing with all TT teams. We fragile bad. We lose the opportunity to play against top quality opposition, showcase our players and team and an opportunity to solidify our tactics.

Instead some of you feel, that we will train and concentrate on World Cup....bullshit. It is off season, is level puncheon and boat ride for them fellas.

Yuh cyar blame hart, them fellas get chances and play d arse. Congrats to Haiti, they wanted it more and it meant alot to them.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Trini _2026 on January 09, 2016, 06:32:30 AM
oh gosh the funds the federation  will miss out on by not qualifying for dat competition aarrrrrrrrrg  :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Peong on January 09, 2016, 07:15:25 AM
So what's the story with Cato? He pick up a knock in training or something?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: PIMP on January 09, 2016, 07:34:05 AM
Boy, Shaun Fuentes and the TTFA media should stop sending us them video clips of the team training and preparing for games.

Making us feel that the team ready and want to win and ready to fight...mamaguy thing

I rel sour with that match...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: christiano on January 09, 2016, 07:42:04 AM
Two places that may have explained that performance : Habanos and Veneto !
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: pull stones on January 09, 2016, 08:31:48 AM
We play a collective pack of ass last night.

Them fellas looked like they drink rum and run hoes the night before.

Moving slow slow with no urgency.

It is a mental thing with all TT teams. We fragile bad. We lose the opportunity to play against top quality opposition, showcase our players and team and an opportunity to solidify our tactics.

Instead some of you feel, that we will train and concentrate on World Cup....bullshit. It is off season, is level puncheon and boat ride for them fellas.

Yuh cyar blame hart, them fellas get chances and play d arse. Congrats to Haiti, they wanted it more and it meant alot to them.
you had to ask? It's only us who blows such important games.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: pull stones on January 09, 2016, 08:34:40 AM
We play a collective pack of ass last night.

Them fellas looked like they drink rum and run hoes the night before.

Moving slow slow with no urgency.

It is a mental thing with all TT teams. We fragile bad. We lose the opportunity to play against top quality opposition, showcase our players and team and an opportunity to solidify our tactics.

Instead some of you feel, that we will train and concentrate on World Cup....bullshit. It is off season, is level puncheon and boat ride for them fellas.

Yuh cyar blame hart, them fellas get chances and play d arse. Congrats to Haiti, they wanted it more and it meant alot to them.
exactly my sentiment. If Cummings was serious he would have been in his bed that night on his third dream. Just when we think we're over ther moon, something happens to remind us that we're still at ground level.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: pull stones on January 09, 2016, 08:43:59 AM
Two places that may have explained that performance : Habanos and Veneto !
easy mate stop reading my mind. By the way I was thinking that right after we loss, I said the same thing to myself, what a crockpot, these clips give us a false sense of hope. aaaarrrgggg
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: soccerrama on January 09, 2016, 08:51:10 AM
Sooooo uuuuuuummmm not to sour the vibes further but which team from the other game went through??

Panama  4   Cuba  0
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: gawd on pitch on January 09, 2016, 09:21:19 AM
Didn't sleep well at all last night.

That game was ours to lose. I hope what happened last night affects the team postively. Hard luck. Let's put this behind us and work for the real gem i.e Russia
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 09, 2016, 10:03:20 AM
Stones, don't jump on Cummins for going to a boat ride, nah.He did nothing wrong. He is big man, not no teenager. The country have serious issues with black thugs killing they own people. This thug attack Cummins at his home. We have serious issues. 10 people murdered already. A f--king bastard kill ah man because he eh have no money? Them black thugs are the problem. Not Keron. Lay off the man, Breds. Sorry !!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: soccerman on January 09, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
Still hurting
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 10, 2016, 08:56:37 AM
Still hurting, too!!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: sjahrain on January 10, 2016, 09:17:46 AM
Still hurt
As that result real thief me head,then I had to wear it for the rest if the day
It left me wondering why is it the big one always gets away
Salt in an open wound is painful......
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: frico on January 10, 2016, 12:05:57 PM
This defeat leaves a feeling of hurt same as when we lost to USA in 89.We have lost more than a match,so much that can't be put into words.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Trini _2026 on January 10, 2016, 12:10:15 PM
Still not too late to try to get Nick Deleon...think about what his work rate may have added in a game like this

If he was interested he would have made himself available.

he is i believe .. 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Deeks on January 10, 2016, 01:31:36 PM
Still not too late to try to get Nick Deleon...think about what his work rate may have added in a game like this

If he was interested he would have made himself available.

he is i believe .. 

Are you sure or not ?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Haiti Copa Game (08-Jan-2016)
Post by: Jay10 on January 10, 2016, 11:32:32 PM
yea i was hurting too until i saw a post from a player on instagram on a hoverboard chillin...

so i guess they over it long time..so we all should as well...

As someone else said on another thread, TT teams lack fkn belly and we suffer badly from stagefright. Forget 20 years ago, look back to the Caribbean cup finals, then go down the line...
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