Soca Warriors Online Discussion Forum
Sports => Football => Topic started by: Flex on April 20, 2016, 03:32:17 PM
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As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on T&T vs Peru game on the 23rd of May 2016 in Peru will be posted here, this way, we can maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.
For the internet users, you can follow the game at:
To be updated.
Possible Online Streams.
To be updated.
Possible TV Station.
To be updated.
Trinidad & Tobago Squad
Goalkeepers
Marvin Phillip (Morvant Caledonia United), Adrian Foncette (Police FC), Glenroy Samuel (North East Stars).
Defenders
Daneil Cyrus (W-Connection), Alvin Jones (W-Connection), Yohance Marshall (Murcielagos FC/Mexico), Aubrey David (Deportivo Saprissa/Costa Rica), Radanfah Abu Bakr (HB Koge/Denmark), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force), Andre Ettienne (Central FC), Tristan Hodge (W-Connection), Weslie John (CD Universidad de El Salvador).
Midfielders
Khaleem Hyland (KVC Westerlo/Belgium), Andre Boucaud (Dagenham & Redbridge), Hughtun Hector (W-Connection), Levi Garcia (AZ Alkmaar/Netherlands), Sean De Silva (Central FC), Leston Paul (Central FC), Jomal Williams (W-Connection), Nathan Lewis (San Juan Jabloteh).
Forwards
Willis Plaza (Unattached), Shahdon Winchester (W-Connection), Makesi Lewis (Police FC).
Coach - Stephen Hart.
Peru Squad
Goalkeepers
To be updated.
Defenders
To be updated.
Midfielders
To be updated.
Forwards
To be updated.
Coach - To be updated.
Updates to follow as we get more info, so keep checking back.
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Trinidad and Tobago Men’s Senior Team to face Peru in an International Friendly on May 23rd
TTFA Media
The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association has secured another International Friendly for this country’s National Senior Team for the month of May.
Having announced a friendly with current world number 9 ranked Uruguay for May 27th, TTFA President David John-Williams disclosed today that the “Soca Warriors” will travel to Lima to face Peru’s Senior Men’s Team on May 23rd. In what can be dubbed T&T’s “Copa America” campaign, as the team continues to prepare for their 2018 World Cup qualifying bid in September, Senior Team head coach Stephen Hart welcomed another high-end international friendly for the National Team.
“We now have two games against quality opposition who will be in the final stages of preparation for their Copa America Centenario.” Hart told TTFA Media on Wednesday.
“I am extremely grateful for this opportunity, with all that playing away from home entails. Football is physically and psychologically demanding, and these are the type of games that demand complete concentration to maximize both individual and collective performances. One cannot ask for much more.” Hart stated.
In March 2013, T&T lost to Peru 3-0 in a friendly at the Estadio Nacional in Lima, conceding two goals in the closing seven minutes. Members of the current squad who were involved in that game include Kenwyne Jones, Aubrey David, Daneil Cyrus, goalkeeper Marvin Phillip, Carlyle Mitchell and Joevin Jones. T&T also lost 2-0 to Peru in February 2013 at the Ato Boldon Stadium.
Peru, who is currently ranked at 46th on the FIFA table, has won the Copa America twice and qualified for the FIFA World Cup Finals four times. Captained by former Bayern Munich forward Claudio Pizarro, they finished third at the 2015 Copa America. Peru is preparing for Copa America Centenario matches against Brazil, Ecuador and Haiti. Following the May 23rd game, the Soca Warriors will journey to Montevideo to face Uruguay on May 27th.
The “Warriors” next 2018 World Cup qualifier will be at home against Guatemala on September 2nd at the Hasely Crawford Stadium before leaving for Jacksonville, Florida to face the United States on September 6th in the closing fixture of the CONCACAF Semi-Final Round.
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good...well done to the FA...
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Great for us. Hart will get a look at the team and new considerations in game situations.
Not a FIFA date, so it all depends on who get released. We at the mercy of the Clubs.
Maybe Bostock, DeLeon and others may get a run out.
Good team for a friendly.
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Great for us. Hart will get a look at the team and new considerations in game situations.
Not a FIFA date, so it all depends on who get released. We at the mercy of the Clubs.
Maybe Bostock, DeLeon and others may get a run out.
Good team for a friendly.
Coco, we have local guys who can be used. DeSilva, Caesar, Guerra ..... just to name a few.
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Charter flight co$t just went north.
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good...well done to the FA...
Indeed.
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Good going again by the TTFA.
Credit where credit is due !!!
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Good going again by the TTFA.
Credit where credit is due !!!
:beermug:
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Good going again by the TTFA.
Credit where credit is due !!!
This is great. But its not much of a surprise. Some of us on here knew another friendly was coming. This is the closest we coming to a copa. I see a Copa commercial yesterday. Boi.. it still bunning meh.
All we need now is a game in August and we good.
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Great for us. Hart will get a look at the team and new considerations in game situations.
Not a FIFA date, so it all depends on who get released. We at the mercy of the Clubs.
Maybe Bostock, DeLeon and others may get a run out.
Good team for a friendly.
Coco, we have local guys who can be used. DeSilva, Caesar, Guerra ..... just to name a few.
True dat, Deeks. Ah ain't mean to ignore or forget dem. This is an excellent opportunity for the team, period.
Also, Hart is always talking about exposure and right mindset for away games (and rightly so); however, sometimes it seems we perform poorly at home games. Ah wonder if it has to do with our (Trinis) highly critical nature? And/Or players want to showboat in front of family and friends? Or underestimate the opposition aggression? Don't know. I hope our staff is paying attention to that trend (poor performance at home) as well. Yea, yea, I know we destroy Vincy Heat recently, but we historically don't take advantage of our home status.
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Good going again by the TTFA.
Credit where credit is due !!!
All we need now is a game in August and we good.
This is exactly what I was thinking. We need a couple more closer to the September games.
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Good going again by the TTFA.
Credit where credit is due !!!
This is great. But its not much of a surprise. Some of us on here knew another friendly was coming. This is the closest we coming to a copa. I see a Copa commercial yesterday. Boi.. it still bunning meh.
All we need now is a game in August and we good.
A independence day game with fireworks and barbeque would be nice, possibly against Jamaica or USA.
A good avenue to raise funds.
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You forget we play USA the early in September, they won't play us a friendly then. We may stand a chance against Canada.
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Canada, Panama, Honduras, Guadalupe, Nicaragua
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Well done! Peru is a good side.
Agree we also need some games closer to the wcqs.
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Good going again by the TTFA.
Credit where credit is due !!!
Yes this is good. I have to give them credit
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The TTFA has secured another international friendly for this country's senior men's football team for the month of May.
WATCH: https://www.facebook.com/csportslive/videos/1158520540866243/
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Good going again by the TTFA.
Credit where credit is due !!!
Agree !!!!
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good...well done to the FA...
CO-SIGNNNNN
Good going again by the TTFA.
Credit where credit is due !!!
COSIGNNNNNN
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I would like to see the TTFA go one step further than the previous regime and ensure LIVE coverage of both games for the fans.
FLOW Sports have been brilliant so far broadcasting the T&T games for World Cup qualification.
I hope the TTFA go after them to bring these 2 games live.
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As the big man said
All in the fullness of time.....ha ha ha
But wait there is June July and August.....like the baseman in my head keep saying....all in the fullness of time.... waiting to see or hear of his next move.....check or checkmate
Go Warriors Hart's Red Army to my heat carriers and all my Buffalo soldiers
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FIFA have scrapped the August friendly date btw
So it's this window then nothing till our game vs Guatemala on the 2nd September.
We HAD to get two friendlies so well done DJW and the TTFA.
Now it's just to get those 2 games live on TV here in T&T to show this new administration mean business. We are in 2016 man, all our games should be televised live.
Let's do this.
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We still need a game in August before the Sept 2nd clash against Guatemala simply because most of our must players will be rusty from coming off break and only now getting into a new season with their clubs. We need a game for players to get back into groove after not playing any football for weeks. Maybe a game against a regional team. Does not have to be against a top team.
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Both Peru and Uruguay games will be shown live either on Sportmax or Flow...
The TTFA have the rights for all the games.
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Both Peru and Uruguay games will be shown live either on Sportmax or Flow...
The TTFA have the rights for all the games.
using a flow only channel cuts out a lot of people......why won't a more mainstream tv outlet pick it up :(
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FLOW Sports have been top class so far. Hope they get the game
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Both Peru and Uruguay games will be shown live either on Sportmax or Flow...
The TTFA have the rights for all the games.
using a flow only channel cuts out a lot of people......why won't a more mainstream tv outlet pick it up :(
It depends on who bids for it.
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Still cautious about getting excited that we getting live coverage but I would love for DJW and the TTFA to prove me wrong.
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You mean to say we could have played Brazil... >:(
Good friendlies.
We need to figure something like a camp for those months in between
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Both Peru and Uruguay games will be shown live either on Sportmax or Flow...
The TTFA have the rights for all the games.
using a flow only channel cuts out a lot of people......why won't a more mainstream tv outlet pick it up :(
yeah no flow in Tobago
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Understandably lots of travel focus on the China encounter, but the Peru gig is the first salvo ... No takers? Side trip to Machu Picchu?
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Understandably lots of travel focus on the China encounter, but the Peru gig is the first salvo ... No takers? Side trip to Machu Picchu?
;D
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Press accreditation information for the friendly v. Peru (in Spanish). (http://www.fpf.com.pe/tus-selecciones/noticia/330-acreditacion-partido-amistoso-peru-vs-trinidad-y-tobago)
KICK-OFF TIME 8:30pm Peruvian time (9:30pm T&T time).
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What will be the altitude for this game .
Any one going to Mahcu Picchu
Saw on Josh Gates Inca Road Destination Unknown , the incas use to chew coca leaves , josh got some in the market and had no problems breathing for miles of walking ahead.
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What will be the altitude for this game .
Any one going to Mahcu Picchu
Saw on Josh Gates Inca Road Destination Unknown , the incas use to chew coca leaves , josh got some in the market and had no problems breathing for miles of walking ahead.
Lima is at sea level.
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Referee: Wilson Lamouroux
Assistant Referee 1: Humberto Clavijo
Assistant Referee 2: Eduardo Diaz
NOTE: All officials are from Colombia
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Referee: Wilson Lamouroux
Assistant Referee 1: Humberto Clavijo
Assistant Referee 2: Eduardo Diaz
NOTE: All officials are from Colombia
Brother, any news on Bostock?
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Any update on which channel bringing the games live in T&T as the President promised ?
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what time is the game?
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what time is the game?
8:30pm Peru time, 9:30pm T&T Time.
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Referee: Wilson Lamouroux
Assistant Referee 1: Humberto Clavijo
Assistant Referee 2: Eduardo Diaz
NOTE: All officials are from Colombia
Lamouroux has been replaced by one Luis Sanchez, per official announcement yesterday.
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TV ??..TV ???
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WATCH: Coach Stephen Hart gives an update on the team’s preparation for Peru, Uruguay, and China. If you look carefully you will see Keron Cummings taking part in the training sessions.
https://www.youtube.com/v/awdKvQnuiCo
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TV ??
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TV ??
That is the million dollar question. I hoping it will be live and not tape delay on Bein
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So did the team land in Peru without complications? Haven't seen any recent updates.
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So did the team land in Peru without complications? Haven't seen any recent updates.
Everything cook and everything curry.
There's been much discussion about us travelling to Peru with unfamiliar faces, but some like dey eh realize that Peru will be fielding new faces too. In fact, many more than we will. As such, the stage is set for a good clash in Lima.
If yuh leave now yuh could still make kick-off. :P
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So did the team land in Peru without complications? Haven't seen any recent updates.
Everything cook and everything curry.
There's been much discussion about us travelling to Peru with unfamiliar faces, but some like dey eh realize that Peru will be fielding new faces too. In fact, many more than we will. As such, the stage is set for a good clash in Lima.
If yuh leave now yuh could still make kick-off. :P
Maybe if I can find a cheap LIAT flight
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So broadcast arrangements confirmed yet?
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So did the team land in Peru without complications? Haven't seen any recent updates.
Everything cook and everything curry.
There's been much discussion about us travelling to Peru with unfamiliar faces, but some like dey eh realize that Peru will be fielding new faces too. In fact, many more than we will. As such, the stage is set for a good clash in Lima.
If yuh leave now yuh could still make kick-off. :P
Maybe if I can find a cheap LIAT flight
http://www.scgamerica.com/
Call dem and be like ... "Allyuh, ah at de flickin airport! Where we charter!!?"
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URG possible line-up.
Gallese, Revoredo, Ramos, Rodriguez, Trauco, Balbin, Vilchez, Flores, Hohberg, Gueva, Da Silva.
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Suarez pull his hammy yesterday, likely out for Friday...
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Is the game going to be televised today? Any link?
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i think it maybe televising on this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q1gDwi7wZ4
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930pm EST kick off
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i don't think we are going to get slaughtered. Stop your nonsense. @Frico we have top players on the team. the team that played Grenada were basically local pro players from Trinidad. Look at the lineup again plz. here's the link that showed the line up for the grenada friendly match
http://www.soccerpunter.com/soccer-statistics/World/Friendlies-2016/match/2216678_Grenada_vs_Trinidad_and_Tobago
Goalkeepers
Marvin Phillip (Morvant Caledonia United), Adrian Foncette (Police FC), Glenroy Samuel (North East Stars).
Defenders
Daneil Cyrus (W-Connection), Justin Hoyte (Dagenham & Redbridge/England), Yohance Marshall (Murcielagos FC/Mexico), Aubrey David (Deportivo Saprissa/Costa Rica), Radanfah Abu Bakr (HB Koge/Denmark), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force), Andre Ettienne (Central FC), Tristan Hodge (W-Connection), Weslie John (CD Universidad de El Salvador).
Midfielders
Khaleem Hyland (KVC Westerlo/Belgium), Andre Boucaud (Dagenham & Redbridge), Hughtun Hector (W-Connection), Levi Garcia (AZ Alkmaar/Netherlands), Sean De Silva (Central FC), Leston Paul (Central FC), Jomal Williams (W-Connection), Nathan Lewis (San Juan Jabloteh).
Forwards
Willis Plaza (Unattached), Shahdon Winchester (W-Connection), Makesi Lewis (Police FC).
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http://www.guardian.co.tt/sport/2016-05-22/ttfa%E2%80%88drops-fuentes-contingent
TTFA drops Fuentes from contingent
Published: Sunday, May 22, 2016
WALTER ALIBEY
Trinidad Guardian
After almost two decades of travelling with the country’s senior national football team as the Communications representative of the T&T Football Association, Shaun Fuentes was left out of the contingent that left for three International Friendly encounters with Peru, Uraguay and later China on Friday.
A member of the Board of Directors of the TTFA, speaking on the conditions of anonymity, said Fuentes was among three members of the staff to be cut in a drastic staff reduction exercise by new president David John-Williams recently. The Guardian was told that national coach Stephen Hart was asked to cut his staff from 13 to 10, leaving out Fuentes and managers David Muhammad and Peter Rampersad, although it is a customary practice for international teams to travel with two managers and a communications personnel.
In Fuentes’ absence, manager Williams Wallace has been asked to assist by doing the communications work. Fuentes who is the person recognised by the world governing body for football—FIFA, as a media official, said he could not comment on the issue, only to say that he would not be going on the tours.
The Soca Warriors will face Peru tomorrow in their opening international friendly match in Lima, before tackling two-time World Cup champions Uruguay on May 27 in Montevideo. They will close off their tour of friendlies will a clash with rising powerhouse China on June 3 in Qin Huang Dao.
John-Williams was hoping to squeeze in a fourth match against Equatorial Guinea on June 10 at a date to be announced, but Hart and his troops rejected it. Meanwhile, it is understood that John-Williams will join the TT contingent for their final match in China, along with his vice presidents Ewing Davis (First), Joanne Salazar (Third) and chairman of the Technical Committee Alvin Henderson.
Though the reduction in team staff has been deemed a cost-cutting exercise, there are now questions surrrouding the reasons for including the football association’s vice presidents and Henderson on a trip, when Fuentes, Rampersad and Muhammed would have been there to work.
Under Hart, the Soca Warriors have found themselves in a favourable position of entering the final round of the qualifiers. They lead group C with 10 points, ahead of the United States (seven) and Guatemala on six. St Vincent and the Grenadines, the other team in the group are still to receive their first point.
The Soca Warriors will next face Guatemala at the Hasely Crawford Stadium at a date to be announced in September before heading out to the USA for their final encounter. Fuentes, who has religiously sent reports to the local and international media on updates of the team, will himself be hoping to get updates on the team for the period May 23-June 3. The board member told Guardian it has been accepted as part of international standard, for World Cup teams to travel with large contingents, particularly with three managers and a media officer.
Attempts to reach John-Williams on his phone proved futile as calls went unanswered.
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http://www.guardian.co.tt/sport/2016-05-22/ttfa%E2%80%88drops-fuentes-contingent
TTFA drops Fuentes from contingent
Published: Sunday, May 22, 2016
WALTER ALIBEY
Trinidad Guardian
After almost two decades of travelling with the country’s senior national football team as the Communications representative of the T&T Football Association, Shaun Fuentes was left out of the contingent that left for three International Friendly encounters with Peru, Uraguay and later China on Friday.
A member of the Board of Directors of the TTFA, speaking on the conditions of anonymity, said Fuentes was among three members of the staff to be cut in a drastic staff reduction exercise by new president David John-Williams recently. The Guardian was told that national coach Stephen Hart was asked to cut his staff from 13 to 10, leaving out Fuentes and managers David Muhammad and Peter Rampersad, although it is a customary practice for international teams to travel with two managers and a communications personnel.
In Fuentes’ absence, manager Williams Wallace has been asked to assist by doing the communications work. Fuentes who is the person recognised by the world governing body for football—FIFA, as a media official, said he could not comment on the issue, only to say that he would not be going on the tours.
The Soca Warriors will face Peru tomorrow in their opening international friendly match in Lima, before tackling two-time World Cup champions Uruguay on May 27 in Montevideo. They will close off their tour of friendlies will a clash with rising powerhouse China on June 3 in Qin Huang Dao.
John-Williams was hoping to squeeze in a fourth match against Equatorial Guinea on June 10 at a date to be announced, but Hart and his troops rejected it. Meanwhile, it is understood that John-Williams will join the TT contingent for their final match in China, along with his vice presidents Ewing Davis (First), Joanne Salazar (Third) and chairman of the Technical Committee Alvin Henderson.
Though the reduction in team staff has been deemed a cost-cutting exercise, there are now questions surrrouding the reasons for including the football association’s vice presidents and Henderson on a trip, when Fuentes, Rampersad and Muhammed would have been there to work.
Under Hart, the Soca Warriors have found themselves in a favourable position of entering the final round of the qualifiers. They lead group C with 10 points, ahead of the United States (seven) and Guatemala on six. St Vincent and the Grenadines, the other team in the group are still to receive their first point.
The Soca Warriors will next face Guatemala at the Hasely Crawford Stadium at a date to be announced in September before heading out to the USA for their final encounter. Fuentes, who has religiously sent reports to the local and international media on updates of the team, will himself be hoping to get updates on the team for the period May 23-June 3. The board member told Guardian it has been accepted as part of international standard, for World Cup teams to travel with large contingents, particularly with three managers and a media officer.
Attempts to reach John-Williams on his phone proved futile as calls went unanswered.
this f-ing man
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>:( >:( >:( They doh have $$ for Staff to travel, but found money for the Executives. I not happy with the precedent being set here one bit... If they could do this bull shit for a friendly, I could only imagine what will happen when the big money start to flow when we get into the Hex and then qualify for Russia...
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It showing on FLOW SPORTS LIVE @ 9:30pm TT time.
Ch 95 (regular) or 290 (advanced video)
This is confirmed from FLOW.
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Deeks and meh breddrin Andre Samuels padnah doing wonderful tings fuh de football ::)
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Sad to see that happen to Fuentes I think he has grown into the job and has kept improving as a professional. This also gives us some insight into how DJW or should we say JW 2.0 thinks. He really didn't cut staff travel he just replaced who was travelling. This tour was announced months ago so they had to accommodate plans x amount of people. Seems as if JW2.0 much like what was done before is rewarding his supporters.
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For the locally-based, the Flow cable guide on the tv has it on Flow Sports (channel 90-something..) :beermug:
EDIT: Just saw this above- apologies for the double post:
It showing on FLOW SPORTS LIVE @ 9:30pm TT time.
Ch 95 (regular) or 290 (advanced video)
This is confirmed from FLOW.
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This is Ras tragedy....not one flipping report to Trinbago nationals on the status of the people's team
I hope those who empowered the second coming of the special adviser take note,that a second term is definitely a no no
Rastafari
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That is an asshole move. Is he trying to get Mohammed and Fuentes to resign?
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i think it maybe televising on this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q1gDwi7wZ4
:beermug:
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Lets see what the justification for those who went is.
Cause....if there is none....well...I go have to laugh. We get what we deserve.
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Any online link for the game?
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http://tmmmxxp.blogspot.cl/
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I see some on rojadirecta...but I cyah download dem streamup or iguide players on this machine.
http://www.rojadirecta.me/
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http://livetv.sx/en/eventinfo/413752_peru_trin_and_tobago/#_
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8th minute: 0-0
Live stream here via this link:
http://tmmmxxp.blogspot.cl/
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https://youtu.be/6ra-kYKGF2w
this one working too. We not playing bad
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http://www.cmdenvivo.pe/ver-cmd-en-vivo/
Peruvian TV.
Enjoy!
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http://www.cmdenvivo.pe/ver-cmd-en-vivo/
Peruvian TV.
Enjoy!
https://youtu.be/6ra-kYKGF2w
this one working too. We not playing bad
we not playing well either
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lol this defense boy mmm marvin u does never give me confidence at all jed
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Peru is completely dominating, going through the middle like water through a strainer. We can't even string two passes. Defensive organizaton needs much work.
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T&T playing primary school football tonite.
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ok hart the experiment is over, now its time to get rid of cyrus and plaza, pleaasseee.
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the referee is a cheat.
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http://www.cmdenvivo.pe/ver-cmd-en-vivo/
Peruvian TV.
Enjoy!
:beermug:
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smh it was bound to happen with the type of shit we playing in defense
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this goal keeper never seem to learn from his mistakes, its the same silly goal that scored on him the last time we played this team. hart has a lot of house cleaning to do.
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This John Williams...smh
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Friggin 1-0 to Peru... Was inevitable.... Come on fellas, settle alyuh ass and play some ball
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T&T playing primary school football tonite.
what yuh expect from a pro league team? kiss meh teet.
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abu bakr fall with the beat yes!
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Nice defending
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Peru scores. 1-0. Real comedy of errors
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Man rounds Bakr like ah cone
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abu bakr fall with the beat yes!
Fall?
He tripped on his own legs.
He is a very weak link!
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abu bakr fall with the beat yes!
So break your legs....break 'em....so watch me whip
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Defender ball watching,and yes we are playing shyte,not one constructive move so far.
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smh it was bound to happen with the type of shit we playing in defense
Daniel Cyrus!! Has to be the worst wing back in concacaf. Overtime this guy plays we look so horrible in defense. He is a liability!!!! SH has to stop this experiment with hoyte and Cyrus. lead hoyle at right back and leave cyrus at home. I can't remember the last time I have seen a bigger waste of space playing for T&T at right back or for that matter , any where in defense, as Cyrus.
Smh, I guess every Coach has a favorite no matter the cost.
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bad pass by hyland set up that goal.
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That has to be one of the most embarrassing goals ever scored on a T&T team!
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:banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead:
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Has anyone seen T&T midfield and forward line in the last 15 mins?
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calamity cyrus and lame duck plaza.
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Marvin and Cyrus is a Liability!!
>:(
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these proleagers making we look like a rank shit team. please no more ok hart, one or tow or three maybe, but not your whole front line for crying out loud, these guys can't even out run a turtle.
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Not helping that the ref is a tw*th*le
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allyuh sure dem central defenders playing professionally
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Plaza has added nothing upfront. Didn't even realise he was playing until the 18th minute.
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sad first half
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calamity cyrus and lame duck plaza.
Hit the nail the head!! Two guys whose WC dream must end on their return home or they will forcibly end the nation's WC hopes.
Your call SH!!
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Marvin and Cyrus is a Liability!!
>:(
don't forget to throw in plaza, a three for one deal. and please no more games outside the FIFA window, can't stand to watch these pro league players. they have no right on the national team.
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allyuh sure dem central defenders playing professionally
Cyrus killing them. They have no cover from the right side!!
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and yet people love to say the pro league does good, but shit technique and mental weakness like these shit we seeing constantly from pro league players ... eh gonna cut it......
Clubs and Coaches really need to take stock on what they really doing and how they going about it oui!!total embarrassment
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a w connection team could play better than this team ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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It's not completely horrible. Hart will explain some things if they listen they could beat this team. STILL!!!
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abu bakr fall with the beat yes!
So break your legs....break 'em....so watch me whip
;D
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Ref is ah level shithong. Midfield and Forward absolutely invisible. Far too many poor first touches. Too many side to side and back passes. Levi can barely sniff the ball. Despite all the lambasting of Cyrus he is the only one I've seen get the ball close to their 18. Bakr look horrible on the second goal but he has made numerous clearances and has won the aerial balls. Not sure what all yuh was expecting smh
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i'm happy this is unraveling like this, it will wake up some idiots on here who were naive when I talk about David.. haha
he real dictating these days, his team, his rules, his limin partners, cut off media, so no one can report his nonsense..
he cutting all ties with the die hard fans, he believes in his mind he has no one to account to...
Hart will expose the players who not cut out for top level football in this exercise and also expose that fraud who running we football
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calamity cyrus and lame duck plaza.
Hit the nail the head!! Two guys whose WC dream must end on their return home or they will forcibly end the nation's WC hopes.
Your call SH!!
you ever wondered why their stints abroad ended so abruptly?
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It's not completely horrible. Hart will explain some things if they listen they could beat this team. STILL!!!
But SH has to replace Cyrus and Plaza. Anybody will do better than those 2!!
Cyrus and Plaza are always let go by foreign clubs after less than a year service. What is it that they see that SH does not see.
Sh is too loyal.
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It's not completely horrible. Hart will explain some things if they listen they could beat this team. STILL!!!
i don't even care if they beat them, just compete for christ sake.
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Marvin Philips is at a point where he is not going to get any better. He shouldn't be beaten for that first goal.
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Tenors, u at 40+ was saving that, that for sure I know :beermug:
But after Bakr knees get broken on the 2nd goal, your gloves was coming off ;D
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that black lady in the crowd looks like she wants to cry, could she possibly be one of our form members who made the trip? btw im sorry for the guys who travel for this game, i know they must want to hide right about now.
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I dunno why men knotin up dey panty so. hart say from the beginning we looking for players who could stand up & step up to the final test. that 1st goal the closest defender to the goalscorer shoulda head that outside or something...hyland might be losing his place to a "new passport" trini. it seem like they just lacking somebody who could dribble the ball out of the back right now (cyrus coming the closest to that).
lewwe see who could take it forward now, how de silva step up...what levi will do with more room. interesting game.\\ congrats DJW for organizing this learning experience for the youths.
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Tenors, u at 40+ was saving that, that for sure I know :beermug:
But after Bakr knees get broken on the 2nd goal, your gloves was coming off ;D
Da ignorant goalie mighta want to beat him fuh dat goal lol
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We need this experience to know what level we are at now.... some of our players have club commitment...... i know it's difficult.
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Marvin Philips is at a point where he is not going to get any better. He shouldn't be beaten for that first goal.
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About Marvin we can do nothing right now. We just are not producing keepers anymore. Under normal circumstances marvin should not even be 8th in the pecking order. I guess its a cycle. He is awful!!
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I dunno why men knotin up dey panty so. hart say from the beginning we looking for players who could stand up & step up to the final test. that 1st goal the closest defender to the goalscorer shoulda head that outside or something...hyland might be losing his place to a "new passport" trini. it seem like they just lacking somebody who could dribble the ball out of the back right now (cyrus coming the closest to that).
lewwe see who could take it forward now, how de silva step up...what levi will do with more room. interesting game.\\ congrats DJW for organizing this learning experience for the youths.
Reasonable assessment
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anybody who livin in trini get links to work can post one tried what was posted with no luck
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Laaaaawd hit de post
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this bloody team worthless as shit, imagine a man missed a whole flickin goal.
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Cyrus off and we still get beat in the same place. All yuh want a blame Daneil fuh dat one too?
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Seriously? Bad defending but even WORSE goalkeeping. My goodness! Dios Mio!
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did I really just see that a keeper was beaten near post through his legs??? tell me ah didn't see that
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Nice defending! Centre back run out leaving a nice space
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Once again I keep telling allyuh.. See all dem players man does come in here and rate up and beg for them to get more time, these players are overrated. Stop begging for your individual player because when its time for them to show up and play for national team against quality opposition they end up playing shit. Man in here does come and beg for Plaza and De Silva. What exactly are they begging for? steupse
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live here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr8ThHbHqdc
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At least DaSilva deliver some good set pieces
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the route is on.
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dem man back off vlose to d 18what we coaches teach dese fellas steups
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Once again I keep telling allyuh.. See all dem players man does come in here and rate up and beg for them to get more time, these players are overrated. Stop begging for your individual player because when its time for them to show up and play for national team against quality opposition they end up playing shit. Man in here does come and beg for Plaza and De Silva. What exactly are they begging for? steupse
No De Silva fan but he's been okay. Which is more than I can say for the majority our players.
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Once again I keep telling allyuh.. See all dem players man does come in here and rate up and beg for them to get more time, these players are overrated. Stop begging for your individual player because when its time for them to show up and play for national team against quality opposition they end up playing shit. Man in here does come and beg for Plaza and De Silva. What exactly are they begging for? steupse
DeSilva having an OK game, IMO, up a level from Plaza. And he is useful for free kicks. But its not only the locals playing tata
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god boy, hyland dunce bad eno.
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Why Winchester did not just take a shot instead of losing it to the incoming defensive Peruvian players? simple logic smh
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Wow straight elbow in the man face!
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Them fellas doing plenty shit on the ball and is all over the pitch!
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Honestly the only time T&T should be fielding teams with a significant number of local players is against Caribbean opposition. Maybe we need to get some serious licks to understand this..
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hector was on the pitch all this time? boy this player fell off bad.
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hyland dunce bad boy.
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Hart really taking this team to play Uraguay?
This is past a loss, this is a dismantling
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How many shots T&T took on Peru goal in the game so far?
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How many shots T&T took on Peru goal in the game so far?
I count 1
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hyland dunce bad eno.
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Link please if the game is not over .sorry am late but I had the choice to see Toronto just tie the series 2-2 with Cleveland or watcj TnT vs Peru .but you guys didnt make this game sound as good as that TO vs Cleveland gamebreaker .
link plz
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Link please if the game is not over .sorry am late but I had the choice to see Toronto just tie the series 2-2 with Cleveland or watcj TnT vs Peru .but you guys didnt make this game sound as good as that TO vs Cleveland gamebreaker .
link plz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr8ThHbHqdc
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Weslie John looking like he could be the next Seon Power with time and exposure. ;D
This team is poor without JonesX2, Molino, Bostock, and Bateau. Jonathan Glenn taking Plaza spot easy easy.
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sorry for typos still pumped
thanks mouie
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wtf is this 3-zip score line steuppss think i made the right choice
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wtf is this 3-zip score line steuppss think i made the right choice
Sure right
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I find it hard to believe we cannot replace that psycho Phillip. He crazy and not good a bad mix.
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i believe that for this campaign hart should accept very few players from this pro league, and i mean the complete stand outs. these fellas definitely aint ready yet.
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we all agreed that the squad is not the best. link in the midfield attack...
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Iz long time we aint get some good licks like this.. It good, who do not hear will feel..
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Peru 4 T&T 0. Uraguay is licking their chops
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I find it hard to believe we cannot replace that psycho Phillip. He crazy and not good a bad mix.
Damn, weary. Doh hold back. :)
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Look like Abu got the ball. I eh fault him for making that tackle.
Oh lard I didn't need to see us play like this tonight.
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Fitting end to Bakr's nite. Big gulf between local based; good learning curve. Cyar say Hart ain't giving men an opportunity to stake their claim for a spot on this team. All in all, we lack penetration in the final third. Our movement in the final third was static tonite. Philips has to do better on a couple of those goals; cyar get beat first post like the third goal.
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wow. this is a real good game to study cuz a good couple could go for the ride but....we have to leave a few behind...and realize we squad really not deep. i feel weslie john could ride...not plaza or shahdon winchester...hyland only because we not deep...i feel is the end of the ride for cyrus...bag so mixed...#9 deserve another look...
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Honestly the only time T&T should be fielding teams with a significant number of local players is against Caribbean opposition. Maybe we need to get some serious licks to understand this..
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Who else you propose we take on a non-FIFA date??? With the starting GK unavailable.
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i say no more friendlies outside of the FIFA date. we seem to be the only team that does do this bullcrap. how the hell our team will jell if we keep using unfamiliar faces? come coach stop taking these punching bag players to rep us, they not ready for this level.
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Fitting end to Bakrs nite. Big gulf between local based; good learning curve. Cyar say Hart ain't giving men a chance to stake their claim for a chance to make this team. All in all, we lack penetration in the final third. Out movement in the final third was static tonite. Philips has to do better on a couple of those goals; cyar get beat first post like the third goal.
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sorry to say but all the goals scored tonight except the penalty was savable.
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I only watched the 2nd half but this is exactly why I was disappointed when I saw the squad list. We didn't learn anything new. We know we have no depth. The 3 best players in the 2nd half IMO were Aubrey David, Levi and Boucaud. They are already starters. We knew they had quality. We know the pro league players aren't ready. The only thing that disappoints me is how much Hyland has regressed. But I think that has to do with the fact that he is asked to do more than he can at this point in his career. He is a defensive midfielder that's all. Whenever he tries to play an attacking role he gives the ball away. Bostock and DeLeon coming for his spot. Also can we please just call up Ranjitsingh Marvin Phillip is not an international GK. Sad thing is I think Jan is prone to some of the same mistakes.
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Look like Abu got the ball. I eh fault him for making that tackle.
Oh lard I didn't need to see us play like this tonight.
Jes asking ... Would you fault him for lack of awareness or chalk it up to his lack of speed (Boss pass still!)
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Look like Abu got the ball. I eh fault him for making that tackle.
Oh lard I didn't need to see us play like this tonight.
Jes asking ... Would you fault him for lack of awareness or chalk it up to his lack of speed (Boss pass still!)
Definitely his lack of speed was exposed there.
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not to be repetitive but if we had our full squad we would not have been beaten in such a dispicable manner. i believe if molino, jovin, mikiel williams, kenwin, sheldon batau, kavan george, justin hoyte, and jan micheal williams had played we would've at least had a much better showing. this whole blasted team was trash with the exception of boucard, david and jamal williams, all the rest played tired and clueless.
hyland had an awful game. i guess when you play with bad players you show your bad qualities.
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Pro-league players and coaches can no longer talk about Hart's selections, save for the interesting overabundance of WConn players. On the bright side, when the series is over we might get rid of some dead weight, and add to about 3-5 players to our WC qualifying pool.
Winchester is knocking on the door. I'm hoping Leston Paul, DeSilva, Weslie John, and Jomal Williams can step up their game in Uraguay.
With all due respect to this humiliation, its good the Pro-leaguers got this kind of exposure. It will bring up their game and increase competition in the league.
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not to be repetitive but if we had our full squad we would not have been beaten in such a dispicable manner. i believe if molino, jovin, mikiel williams, kenwin, sheldon batau, kavan george, justin hoyte, and jan micheal williams had played we would've at least had a much better showing. this whole blasted team was trash with the exception of boucard, david and jamal williams, all the rest played tired and clueless.
hyland had an awful game. i guess when you play with bad players you show your bad qualities.
What about Levi or Sean?
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https://www.youtube.com/v/ONNNqrLbEpE
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I only watched the 2nd half but this is exactly why I was disappointed when I saw the squad list. We didn't learn anything new. We know we have no depth. The 3 best players in the 2nd half IMO were Aubrey David, Levi and Boucaud. They are already starters. We knew they had quality. We know the pro league players aren't ready. The only thing that disappoints me is how much Hyland has regressed. But I think that has to do with the fact that he is asked to do more than he can at this point in his career. He is a defensive midfielder that's all. Whenever he tries to play an attacking role he gives the ball away. Bostock and DeLeon coming for his spot. Also can we please just call up Ranjitsingh Marvin Phillip is not an international GK. Sad thing is I think Jan is prone to some of the same mistakes.
no not jan, he's a mess yes, but phillips is in a class of his own in regard to being a total mess.
all these goals with the exception of the penalty would not have gotten past jan. its time to get a UB40 goalie.
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This Pro League will only get better when the coaching stock gets better. We need to seriously invest in our coaching; they are 20 years behind. What's even more scary is the John Williams is trying to resurrect some of these obsolete coaches' careers.
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This Pro League will only get better when the coaching stock gets better. We need to seriously invest in our coaching; they are 20 years behind. What's even more scary is the John Williams is trying to resurrect some of these obsolete coaches' careers.
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Good point
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not to be repetitive but if we had our full squad we would not have been beaten in such a dispicable manner. i believe if molino, jovin, mikiel williams, kenwin, sheldon batau, kavan george, justin hoyte, and jan micheal williams had played we would've at least had a much better showing. this whole blasted team was trash with the exception of boucard, david and jamal williams, all the rest played tired and clueless.
hyland had an awful game. i guess when you play with bad players you show your bad qualities.
What about Levi or Sean?
i like the both players, but they didn't show up tonight. don't know if its because of the supporting cast, or they were just way over their heads. by the way dasilva gave the ball away a little too much for my taste, and gacia was woeful at defending the flanks and left david out to dry in the first half, im afraid he's all offense.
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It's not the players fault. TT Pro league is a walking league. It's not so much a matter of talent because there are talented players but they lack the fitness and intensity to step on the international stage. Any decent player should leave TT Pro as soon as possible. Even Nicaragua league is better and more intense and a step in the right direction.
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This Pro League will only get better when the coaching stock gets better. We need to seriously invest in our coaching; they are 20 years behind. What's even more scary is the John Williams is trying to resurrect some of these obsolete coaches' careers.
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VERY!
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Look like Abu got the ball. I eh fault him for making that tackle.
Oh lard I didn't need to see us play like this tonight.
Jes asking ... Would you fault him for lack of awareness or chalk it up to his lack of speed (Boss pass still!)
Definitely his lack of speed was exposed there.
At that height of the match, the actual culprit is likely concentration ... that preceded his vulnerability to pace.
Thankful for the game.
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bad pass by hyland set up that goal.
was it hyland clearance that lead to the 1st goal too?
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not to be repetitive but if we had our full squad we would not have been beaten in such a dispicable manner. i believe if molino, jovin, mikiel williams, kenwin, sheldon batau, kavan george, justin hoyte, and jan micheal williams had played we would've at least had a much better showing. this whole blasted team was trash with the exception of boucard, david and jamal williams, all the rest played tired and clueless.
hyland had an awful game. i guess when you play with bad players you show your bad qualities.
What about Levi or Sean?
i like the both players, but they didn't show up tonight. don't know if its because of the supporting cast, or they were just way over their heads. by the way dasilva gave the ball away a little too much for my taste, and gacia was woeful at defending the flanks and left david out to dry in the first half, im afraid he's all offense.
was it levi who they use to bring the ball out of defense from the right side after they take off cyrus?
i think men jus bias for da silva.. for me he really ent do nuttin.
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Better coaching has to start before way before these guys get to the pro league. Many of our "professional" players are too technically flawed.
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Better coaching has to start before way before these guys get to the pro league. Many of our "professional" players are too technically flawed.
facts.
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not to be repetitive but if we had our full squad we would not have been beaten in such a dispicable manner. i believe if molino, jovin, mikiel williams, kenwin, sheldon batau, kavan george, justin hoyte, and jan micheal williams had played we would've at least had a much better showing. this whole blasted team was trash with the exception of boucard, david and jamal williams, all the rest played tired and clueless.
hyland had an awful game. i guess when you play with bad players you show your bad qualities.
What about Levi or Sean?
i like the both players, but they didn't show up tonight. don't know if its because of the supporting cast, or they were just way over their heads. by the way dasilva gave the ball away a little too much for my taste, and gacia was woeful at defending the flanks and left david out to dry in the first half, im afraid he's all offense.
Pull,
you quite well. This was far from our full squad and this will happen in exhibitions against good opposition. When I saw the strikers available, I winced. When Plaza starting for TT you know it bad. He tries really hard and scored some goals against mediocre opposition some years back and Hart has stuck with him. As our other strikers make a name for themselves, I think in the next 18 months Plaza will consider himself lucky to make the bench.
Yes our defence was bad bu our midfield and forward line was nothing to talk about either. Their lack of quality put greater pressure on the defence.
The central defence was like some kind of big gaping vagina.
I know Cyrus had a bad game but I can't believe that a man who played so well in the GC gone tru so. I would like to still be in the mix.
DeSilva didn't have a bad game but it wasn't great either. But I have gotten used to the midfield maestros we had in the 90s.
Winchester looked ok. Considering his lack of experience and the surroundings, he didn't do so bad. This is why we need to have an A team in training so they can get some good blooding.
As our midfield grows and the def. depth is there. Perhaps Hyland could play a CB role.
Did Marshall play, cant remember seeing him.
Had Molino, KJ, JJ, Garcia and Caesar, been there.... different game. Not saying we would've won but better performance.
Goood to know these things before a WC game.
Uruguay next and Plaza is our first choice striker.....Nooooooooooooo.....
VB
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I did not see the game. Those who saw it expressed their horror. This is a friendly. What can we say. We are not in position to arrange games for our own benefit. At this point we are beggars. And beggars can't be choosers. We did not have all our "best" players. But I was hoping the locals would have stepped up for this rare opportunity.
Just saw the goals. The first goal probably was savable, but the player headed the ball down on the ground and the ball bounced away from Marvin. The 2nd goal was not really his fault. The guy who dribble Abu was in the 6 yrds box, and Marvin had no chance. Third was embarrassing. Well the penalty .... he went in the right direction and probably could have gotten a finger to it ... ;D.
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Winchester looked ok. Considering his lack of experience and the surroundings, he didn't do so bad. This is why we need to have an A team in training so they can get some good blooding.
While all the criticisms were justified in part due to frustration with the performance, we need to have a team in training and playing out the FIFA against the Caribbean opponents as one of our forumites mentioned above.
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Its a friendly, we missing a good few starters, no big deal.
This is a good experience for the new players.
Give them time.
Hart know what he's doing.
De only thing I feel they should consider, is playing a small team before we play a big team so we get out de butterflies early and we will be better prepared.
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Ppl still dreaming in technicolor and everything gone digital to 4k. The only team from South America we MIGHT tie with without our full team maybe Falkland Islands and FG . We won't throw together somefellas and expect to defeat Guyana and Surinam. This is Peru and Uruguay, they better than any team in our region (my Opinion), yuh think we can throw together some trialist and expect to give them a extended run. What we might be able to do is hold them for awhile, and with experience, coaching and training, extend that hold time. The purpose here however, is to put the players under extreme pressure now, observe and measure, if they are able to hold for some time, then they will hold against our weaker regional competition longer. These guys play against Brazilians, Uruguayians, all of SA, on a regular, few times a year, they accustom to the level. Ppl want to shoot our players and coaches for their lack of what ? really ? I see a little bit of the work Amwood putting down, i'm sure he is not the only good trainer, but testing against big teams, and these are big teams, will allways be a dice roll, aand chance are you won't get the result in numbers you want, but you still get to play the game.
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I see pro-league players getting bash left right and center with some justification. recently, I asked Mike Grayson about the pro-league. he himself is frustrated, perplexed and surprise at this organization. He said he get frustrated about the games. Always changing and sometimes at the last minute. He also find that a 10 team pro-league takes too damn long to conclude their season, which causes disinterest from the public at large. He find the league should be short and compact and should finished by March-April. When more teams come in, then extend.
he said that he watched a couple of JA pro games with their fairly large crowds. The pace of the games appear faster, and crowd interaction made him believe that their league is/was better and their clubs would beat our clubs left, right and center. But when the CFU club championships come around, Trini teams find a way to win. So that leaves him both surprised and perplexed.
So allyuh try to make some sense outta that.
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Ppl still dreaming in technicolor and everything gone digital to 4k. The only team from South America we MIGHT tie with without our full team maybe Falkland Islands and FG . We won't throw together somefellas and expect to defeat Guyana and Surinam. This is Peru and Uruguay, they better than any team in our region (my Opinion), yuh think we can throw together some trialist and expect to give them a extended run. What we might be able to do is hold them for awhile, and with experience, coaching and training, extend that hold time. The purpose here however, is to put the players under extreme pressure now, observe and measure, if they are able to hold for some time, then they will hold against our weaker regional competition longer. These guys play against Brazilians, Uruguayians, all of SA, on a regular, few times a year, they accustom to the level. Ppl want to shoot our players and coaches for their lack of what ? really ? I see a little bit of the work Amwood putting down, i'm sure he is not the only good trainer, but testing against big teams, and these are big teams, will allways be a dice roll, aand chance are you won't get the result in numbers you want, but you still get to play the game.
Peru better than Mexico? I don't think so. Mexico has 3 starters at Porto Corona, Layun and H Herrera, two at PSV Guardado and Moreno, a top striker in Bundesliga Chicharito, Vela and Reyes at Real Sociedad, Peralta and Aguilar at America (easily top 5 team
in the Americas), and Giovani Dos Santos. I didn't really know the Peruvian players.
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Ppl still dreaming in technicolor and everything gone digital to 4k. The only team from South America we MIGHT tie with without our full team maybe Falkland Islands and FG . We won't throw together somefellas and expect to defeat Guyana and Surinam. This is Peru and Uruguay, they better than any team in our region (my Opinion), yuh think we can throw together some trialist and expect to give them a extended run. What we might be able to do is hold them for awhile, and with experience, coaching and training, extend that hold time. The purpose here however, is to put the players under extreme pressure now, observe and measure, if they are able to hold for some time, then they will hold against our weaker regional competition longer. These guys play against Brazilians, Uruguayians, all of SA, on a regular, few times a year, they accustom to the level. Ppl want to shoot our players and coaches for their lack of what ? really ? I see a little bit of the work Amwood putting down, i'm sure he is not the only good trainer, but testing against big teams, and these are big teams, will allways be a dice roll, aand chance are you won't get the result in numbers you want, but you still get to play the game.
The most objective and intelligent post. There is no way a second string team of Pro Leaguers could be expected to provide any opposition to a Comebol team. Even with our 1st team, it was going to be difficult.
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NO MORE PLAZA PLEASE!!
NO MORE PLAZA PLEASE!!
if Hart like him that much maybe he should try him as a goalie... he might be better at preventing goals than scoring dem!!!
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Ppl still dreaming in technicolor and everything gone digital to 4k. The only team from South America we MIGHT tie with without our full team maybe Falkland Islands and FG . We won't throw together somefellas and expect to defeat Guyana and Surinam. This is Peru and Uruguay, they better than any team in our region (my Opinion), yuh think we can throw together some trialist and expect to give them a extended run. What we might be able to do is hold them for awhile, and with experience, coaching and training, extend that hold time. The purpose here however, is to put the players under extreme pressure now, observe and measure, if they are able to hold for some time, then they will hold against our weaker regional competition longer. These guys play against Brazilians, Uruguayians, all of SA, on a regular, few times a year, they accustom to the level. Ppl want to shoot our players and coaches for their lack of what ? really ? I see a little bit of the work Amwood putting down, i'm sure he is not the only good trainer, but testing against big teams, and these are big teams, will allways be a dice roll, aand chance are you won't get the result in numbers you want, but you still get to play the game.
Peru better than Mexico? I don't think so. Mexico has 3 starters at Porto Corona, Layun and H Herrera, two at PSV Guardado and Moreno, a top striker in Bundesliga Chicharito, Vela and Reyes at Real Sociedad, Peralta and Aguilar at America (easily top 5 team
in the Americas), and Giovani Dos Santos. I didn't really know the Peruvian players.
Good reason for that: this was a Peru in renovation. A Peru with players on debut being influential. A Peru in transition. Most of Peru's Copa America squad are domestically-based. And players on debut not being intimidated by the environment. One or two names will become familiar.
I listened to the entirety of Ricardo Gareca's post-match comments and a couple things struck me. (1). The Peruvian media is more sophisticated in the questions they ask of the NT coach than our media. How so? Questions were rooted in knowledge of the game, references to context about variations regarding use of the players in the league versus on the NT etc. Relevance? With the media being "plugged in" from covering professional football (despite ... and I'll be the first to say, their domestic league having suffered some issues), there have been gains. If the media has benefited from that, imagine the benefit for the players.
(2). Mental quality of the coach. Gareca: very reflective. Introspective. Thoughtful. Able to express his universe. Prior to SH, we suffered through long days without this. Latas had his moments, but perhaps not the patience to deal with some of the ignorance asked of him by the media.
Anyhow, consider that Pizarro and Farfan (names you definitely know or should know) were called up for qualifying recently, but not for present purposes.
For a small nation, we have a fair number of foreign-based relative to bigger Peru. Yeah, the Pro League is not perfect but it was home to some who have moved on.
Will say this too: we are still in the hunt for a Cornell Glen. The answer is not yet with us.
Good post, maxg.
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I did not see the game. Those who saw it expressed their horror. This is a friendly. What can we say. We are not in position to arrange games for our own benefit. At this point we are beggars. And beggars can't be choosers. We did not have all our "best" players. But I was hoping the locals would have stepped up for this rare opportunity.
Just saw the goals. The first goal probably was savable, but the player headed the ball down on the ground and the ball bounced away from Marvin. The 2nd goal was not really his fault. The guy who dribble Abu was in the 6 yrds box, and Marvin had no chance. Third was embarrassing. Well the penalty .... he went in the right direction and probably could have gotten a finger to it ... ;D.
Was it not Marvin who saved PKs during the Gold Cup? Ppl here tend to have short memories?
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What we might be able to do is hold them for awhile, and with experience, coaching and training, extend that hold time. The purpose here however, is to put the players under extreme pressure now, observe and measure, if they are able to hold for some time, then they will hold against our weaker regional competition longer.
As much as the pro-leaguers disspapointed us, the fact is MOST of them have never been properly coached or exposed to this level. This kind of pressure should start with national teams at U-16 level minimum. Even Paul and DeSilva who were our top midfielders in two world cups have regressed to the local level. So whatfrom do we expect players like Tristan Hodge, Andre Ettiene, and Weslie John?
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Will say this too: we are still in the hunt for a Cornell Glen. The answer is not yet with us.
Good post, maxg.
Really? I think we have some players who can be as good or better. What we need is to push for a development system that will yield some Nakhids, and God willing, maybe a Latapy.
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At least Weslie John fought for relegation and has been getting exposed to the concept of playing under pressure and intensity. He will be on trial with Houston Dynamo at the end of this national team tour and hopefully it will help him succeed
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I don't like to...but I must:
If Hart keeps Cyrus in our starting 11 I am warning you all that there is a massive World Cup participation mistake in that boy that WILL cost us.
You can have all the athleticism and speed in the world but you see Brain ? sorry that boy does not have one.
He even playing club football ?
Massive liability. Squad player yes and should be used only in emergency at Right Back only. Him in the CB position will be a disaster.
Plaza is another one with the same skill set like Cyrus but zero brains.
Last night proved how important Andre Boucaud is to this team. Zero ball retention without him on the pitch
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It's not the players fault. TT Pro league is a walking league. It's not so much a matter of talent because there are talented players but they lack the fitness and intensity to step on the international stage. Any decent player should leave TT Pro as soon as possible. Even Nicaragua league is better and more intense and a step in the right direction.
Good info, from what I saw we did not match their intensity when the game started and it went down hill fast.
The real reason for these games is to gauge where the the Pro-Leaguers are from a fitness, technical and a working football brain (i.e. who could carry out the coach's instruction on the field).
De Silva wasn't bad, need to be monitored.
Surprised how Leston Paul has fallen off since the U-17 days.
Weslie John is a keeper.
When Boucard came on is when the midfield started to humm.
Hyland......was who he was.
Everyone else :cursing:
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Only looked at the highlights but 3 of the goals was due to our defense being very ordinary. Positioning of the keeper was also piss poor he didn't provide much resistance at the back.Hope we fear better against Uruguay seems we are going to have problems coping with the south american fast pace style of play.
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Will say this too: we are still in the hunt for a Cornell Glen. The answer is not yet with us.
Good post, maxg.
Really? I think we have some players who can be as good or better. What we need is to push for a development system that will yield some Nakhids, and God willing, maybe a Latapy.
That might be, but do we have the luxury of waiting for them to blossom? Who do you have in mind?
(By the way, note the comment was "a" Cornell, not necessarily the man himself).
Separately ...
I wonder what it would be like to have Trevin Caesar with extended use. Not sure what his defensive contribution is as a presence up front, but a player who places defences on their heels, helps us defensively by dictating caution for the opponent.
Generally, I don't find evidence of such dynamism in the stock of forwards.
Was disappointed by Winchester's election to go left last night when I thought he should have attacked the defender on the right. The difference? An intuitive, unpredictable player in Caesar versus one clearly thinking the game on the same sheet as the players tasked with defending him.
Discuss.
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Only looked at the highlights but 3 of the goals was due to our defense being very ordinary. Positioning of the keeper was also piss poor he didn't provide much resistance at the back.Hope we fear better against Uruguay seems we are going to have problems coping with the south american fast pace style of play.
Come on guys, if you think T&T looked bad against Peru, wiat until you see a full-strength, world #3 ranked Chile tackle the hapless reggaeboyz in Santiago on Friday. Ill be happy if we come away with 4-0 defeat. Heh heh.
Peru are no St. Vincent or Guatemala.
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people missing the point here. and the point is..........we should never play any friendlies outside of the fifa date where our best players could match skills against quality teams, or else what the bloody point of playing a afriendly with players we are not going to use in any serious competitive game.
how many times hart needs to see players who may or may not be able to play at this level. remember this happened to us against haiti in january where we went with a half ass team and got whipped. let the experiment be over i say, and only play games in the fifa window so that our full team could experience better opposition and learn to stand firm under the pressure.
watching that game yesterday reminded me of the days of the black list where we ate a considerable amount of licks from teams like bermuda, grenada the usa mexico and gaudeloupe of all teams. i think its time hart got a good gauge on who could cut it at this level and who can't.
not saying that our A team would have beaten peru, but at least we would have been able to compete. people just don't understand when you play with a predominantly pro league team, the few first team players in their mids would perform poorly as well.
and even though we were only missing eight starters that still a big gap to fill, with players like jan williams, JJ, KJ, molino, bateau, mekiel williams, hoyte, kavan goerge and a few super subs like neval hackshaw, trevin ceasar, ball pest and cato all missing from such a top notch friendly, i believe these players would have at least made the game more competitive and not such a stroll in the park.
also its time for some players to realize that their sell by date has reached and past. players like cyrus, peltier, guerra, plaza, and to some extent winchester has been around the first team now for the better part of two years and they are yet to make a serious impact on the team.
yesterday we got a valuable lesson in speed , tactical ability, mobility on and off the ball, i mean they basically scrambled our midfield and defense and walked right into the goal, abu bakar of all people suprised the dickens out of me when he got clowned in his box, how does a mdfield allow people to play tic tac toe in you defensive third.
and one more thing, hart should never ever evr pick leston paul ever again on this team. this boy was good in the junior ranks and that's it, he never developed into anything special, so stop living in the past, he can't cut it at this level, as for da silver, well the jury's still out on him, maybe he could hang around a little and see where he can contribute, but he is definitely not a starter.
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I did not see the game. Those who saw it expressed their horror. This is a friendly. What can we say. We are not in position to arrange games for our own benefit. At this point we are beggars. And beggars can't be choosers. We did not have all our "best" players. But I was hoping the locals would have stepped up for this rare opportunity.
Just saw the goals. The first goal probably was savable, but the player headed the ball down on the ground and the ball bounced away from Marvin. The 2nd goal was not really his fault. The guy who dribble Abu was in the 6 yrds box, and Marvin had no chance. Third was embarrassing. Well the penalty .... he went in the right direction and probably could have gotten a finger to it ... ;D.
Was it not Marvin who saved PKs during the Gold Cup? Ppl here tend to have short memories?
that's about the best quality marvin has, and he's benn saving them from the best, like the one he saved in costa rice in 2009 world cup campaign, but that about all he has the guy is very poor in my estimation and i hope jan gets well soon before the world cup qualifers roll around. and if you think jan is scary then get a sip of marvin because marvin is a very scary goal tender brother, and one i have no faith in.
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Ppl still dreaming in technicolor and everything gone digital to 4k. The only team from South America we MIGHT tie with without our full team maybe Falkland Islands and FG . We won't throw together somefellas and expect to defeat Guyana and Surinam. This is Peru and Uruguay, they better than any team in our region (my Opinion), yuh think we can throw together some trialist and expect to give them a extended run. What we might be able to do is hold them for awhile, and with experience, coaching and training, extend that hold time. The purpose here however, is to put the players under extreme pressure now, observe and measure, if they are able to hold for some time, then they will hold against our weaker regional competition longer. These guys play against Brazilians, Uruguayians, all of SA, on a regular, few times a year, they accustom to the level. Ppl want to shoot our players and coaches for their lack of what ? really ? I see a little bit of the work Amwood putting down, i'm sure he is not the only good trainer, but testing against big teams, and these are big teams, will allways be a dice roll, aand chance are you won't get the result in numbers you want, but you still get to play the game.
Peru better than Mexico? I don't think so. Mexico has 3 starters at Porto Corona, Layun and H Herrera, two at PSV Guardado and Moreno, a top striker in Bundesliga Chicharito, Vela and Reyes at Real Sociedad, Peralta and Aguilar at America (easily top 5 team
in the Americas), and Giovani Dos Santos. I didn't really know the Peruvian players.
They haven't played often but since 2000 Peru has dominated. Previous to that Mexico dominated. Has Mexico regressed or Peru improved ? I think the latter, point is, WE playing them with even 1 player of our 1st team missing would always be problems in all aspects of the game, especially with many trialist, then out and out pressure. Yet, this is where you separate goat from sheep, and Horse from Donkey, yet all still have there uses, depending on what is required.
18 Jul 2001 Peru v Mexico L 1-0 Copa America
21 Aug 2003 Mexico v Peru L 1-3 International friendly
08 Jun 2008 Mexico v Peru W 4-0 International friendly
08 Jul 2011 Peru v Mexico L 1-0 Copa America
03 Jun 2015 Peru v Mexico D 1-1 International friendly
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Will say this too: we are still in the hunt for a Cornell Glen. The answer is not yet with us.
Good post, maxg.
Really? I think we have some players who can be as good or better. What we need is to push for a development system that will yield some Nakhids, and God willing, maybe a Latapy.
cornel glen what. kiss meh teeth. we have great attackers now compared to what we went to germany with. players like molino, jovin jones, levi garcia and cummings would put players like colin samuels, jason scotland, evens wise, anthony wolf and cornel glen to shame, only stern john and kenwin jones would have fit in with this new attacking squad.
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I don't like to...but I must:
If Hart keeps Cyrus in our starting 11 I am warning you all that there is a massive World Cup participation mistake in that boy that WILL cost us.
You can have all the athleticism and speed in the world but you see Brain ? sorry that boy does not have one.
He even playing club football ?
Massive liability. Squad player yes and should be used only in emergency at Right Back only. Him in the CB position will be a disaster.
Plaza is another one with the same skill set like Cyrus but zero brains.
Last night proved how important Andre Boucaud is to this team. Zero ball retention without him on the pitch
pure facts. couldn't have said it better myself.
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Will say this too: we are still in the hunt for a Cornell Glen. The answer is not yet with us.
Good post, maxg.
Really? I think we have some players who can be as good or better. What we need is to push for a development system that will yield some Nakhids, and God willing, maybe a Latapy.
cornel glen what. kiss meh teeth. we have great attackers now compared to what we went to germany with. players like molino, jovin jones, levi garcia and cummings would put players like colin samuels, jason scotland, evens wise, anthony wolf and cornel glen to shame, only stern john and kenwin jones would have fit in with this new attacking squad.
I doh disagree with you, but yuh lumping players with different attacking personalities into one pile.
Despite, Molino, JJ, Levi, KJ and Cummings all having attacking virtue, they lack a characteristic we need.
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Only looked at the highlights but 3 of the goals was due to our defense being very ordinary. Positioning of the keeper was also piss poor he didn't provide much resistance at the back.Hope we fear better against Uruguay seems we are going to have problems coping with the south american fast pace style of play.
Come on guys, if you think T&T looked bad against Peru, wiat until you see a full-strength, world #3 ranked Chile tackle the hapless reggaeboyz in Santiago on Friday. Ill be happy if we come away with 4-0 defeat. Heh heh.
Peru are no St. Vincent or Guatemala.
bredder, if we had our 8 starters there was no way peru would have played rounders with us. could you imagine jamaica going to the copa with eight ordinary players from arnet gardens, water house and mobay united? well that's what happened to us last night.
players like da silva, leston paul, plaza, cyrus, hector, john, winchester, marcus joseph, curtis gonzales, tristen hodges, williams from connection, and one other player who's name evades me, but they were all local who would not get a snuff at first team ball. it;'s time to stop playing games out side the fifa window, and this should be the very last time we do such a thing. it's watseful and amount to nothing, we can't even gauge how our best team would stand up to such an opposition so whats the use.
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So let me ask everyone who breathing fire out of their noses. Why did our first team guys not play? There was a reason. They were unavailable. And why should the coach not try local players. When do you want him to give them a run? In an actually WC game?!! This game was outside the FIFA window. I know it is hard watching our boys get destroyed, but the locals need experience.
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So let me ask everyone who breathing fire out of their noses. Why did our first team guys not play? There was a reason. They were unavailable. And why should the coach not try local players. When do you want him to give them a run? In an actually WC game?!! This game was outside the FIFA window. I know it is hard watching our boys get destroyed, but the locals need experience.
i say no more quality games outside the fifa window because 90% of these players would not be selected to play in a competitive game in the fifa dates, so whats the use in such a fruitless game. it only helps to embarrass us.
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I think people need to give a break to Weslie John. His performances in El Salvador have been better than Yohance's time there and arguably better than Mekeil in Guatemala and those two were really good in those leagues. I would like to see him in a line of 4 with Aubrey, Bateau and Williams before judging.
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Ppl still dreaming in technicolor and everything gone digital to 4k. The only team from South America we MIGHT tie with without our full team maybe Falkland Islands and FG . We won't throw together somefellas and expect to defeat Guyana and Surinam. This is Peru and Uruguay, they better than any team in our region (my Opinion), yuh think we can throw together some trialist and expect to give them a extended run. What we might be able to do is hold them for awhile, and with experience, coaching and training, extend that hold time. The purpose here however, is to put the players under extreme pressure now, observe and measure, if they are able to hold for some time, then they will hold against our weaker regional competition longer. These guys play against Brazilians, Uruguayians, all of SA, on a regular, few times a year, they accustom to the level. Ppl want to shoot our players and coaches for their lack of what ? really ? I see a little bit of the work Amwood putting down, i'm sure he is not the only good trainer, but testing against big teams, and these are big teams, will allways be a dice roll, aand chance are you won't get the result in numbers you want, but you still get to play the game.
Peru better than Mexico? I don't think so. Mexico has 3 starters at Porto Corona, Layun and H Herrera, two at PSV Guardado and Moreno, a top striker in Bundesliga Chicharito, Vela and Reyes at Real Sociedad, Peralta and Aguilar at America (easily top 5 team
in the Americas), and Giovani Dos Santos. I didn't really know the Peruvian players.
They haven't played often but since 2000 Peru has dominated. Previous to that Mexico dominated. Has Mexico regressed or Peru improved ? I think the latter, point is, WE playing them with even 1 player of our 1st team missing would always be problems in all aspects of the game, especially with many trialist, then out and out pressure. Yet, this is where you separate goat from sheep, and Horse from Donkey, yet all still have there uses, depending on what is required.
18 Jul 2001 Peru v Mexico L 1-0 Copa America
21 Aug 2003 Mexico v Peru L 1-3 International friendly
08 Jun 2008 Mexico v Peru W 4-0 International friendly
08 Jul 2011 Peru v Mexico L 1-0 Copa America
03 Jun 2015 Peru v Mexico D 1-1 International friendly
yes but Mexico sends its B team to Copa America and friendlies are friendlies.
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yes but Mexico sends its B team to Copa America and friendlies are friendlies
I don't think Mex will be sending their B team to this Copa.
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ok..so your judgement of best team is based on where the individual players ply their trade ? but note Peru beat Paraguay who recently hold Brazil and Argentina to ties, WC qual.. How come Brazil didn't overrun them, with all their international ballers. I think cause the game is a Team game played on the pitch, and not on paper. So in my opinion, whether we or Mexico send a B team(D team in our case), or we or them had our A team..the recent final result say them win. You can have the best individual players and still lose to the best team..u might even have the best players and best team, and still lose..and you argue but we had we best team and outplaythem till thy kingdom come, but moving on and up will be the winners...this was basically members of Peru A TEAM by the way.
add: and now, SH after this tour and a few more games, will have an idea on who can step up, and who, once he has advised them will be able to learn and who can or won't add a challenged and tested dynamic to what we already have.. it's under duress when the strong pull of amazing feats..otherwise ppl could just email the scores and not bother to play the game, based on who playing where.
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Only looked at the highlights but 3 of the goals was due to our defense being very ordinary. Positioning of the keeper was also piss poor he didn't provide much resistance at the back.Hope we fear better against Uruguay seems we are going to have problems coping with the south american fast pace style of play.
Come on guys, if you think T&T looked bad against Peru, wiat until you see a full-strength, world #3 ranked Chile tackle the hapless reggaeboyz in Santiago on Friday. Ill be happy if we come away with 4-0 defeat. Heh heh.
Peru are no St. Vincent or Guatemala.
bredder, if we had our 8 starters there was no way peru would have played rounders with us. could you imagine jamaica going to the copa with eight ordinary players from arnet gardens, water house and mobay united? well that's what happened to us last night.
players like da silva, leston paul, plaza, cyrus, hector, john, winchester, marcus joseph, curtis gonzales, tristen hodges, williams from connection, and one other player who's name evades me, but they were all local who would not get a snuff at first team ball. it;'s time to stop playing games out side the fifa window, and this should be the very last time we do such a thing. it's watseful and amount to nothing, we can't even gauge how our best team would stand up to such an opposition so whats the use.
That's what I'm saying man, I find that you guys are stressing too much over this result...although i can understand given the recent rich vein of form your teams have been in going back last summer at the gold cup. I don't know, but you need a strong bench to get through world cup qualifying...at some point throughout a long campaign players will accumulate yellow cards, get red cards, get injured, lose passport , lose form, get old or get love sick from being away from their woman/women for long period of times. ehe heh. Not playing these games because of unavailability of starters would be sending the wrong message. All your stars today started out in your doemstic league, or most of them...so to ignore the very league that produced Joevin Jones etc is not the way forward.
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ok..so your judgement of best team is based on where the individual players ply their trade ? but note Peru beat Paraguay who recently hold Brazil and Argentina to ties, WC qual.. How come Brazil didn't overrun them, with all their international ballers. I think cause the game is a Team game played on the pitch, and not on paper. So in my opinion, whether we or Mexico send a B team(D team in our case), or we or them had our A team..the recent final result say them win. You can have the best individual players and still lose to the best team..u might even have the best players and best team, and still lose..and you argue but we had we best team and outplaythem till thy kingdom come, but moving on and up will be the winners...this was basically members of Peru A TEAM by the way.
Not to mention Peru made it to the semi-final of the COPA America last year, in fact they came 3rd by beating Paraguay 2-0.
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Only looked at the highlights but 3 of the goals was due to our defense being very ordinary. Positioning of the keeper was also piss poor he didn't provide much resistance at the back.Hope we fear better against Uruguay seems we are going to have problems coping with the south american fast pace style of play.
Come on guys, if you think T&T looked bad against Peru, wiat until you see a full-strength, world #3 ranked Chile tackle the hapless reggaeboyz in Santiago on Friday. Ill be happy if we come away with 4-0 defeat. Heh heh.
Peru are no St. Vincent or Guatemala.
bredder, if we had our 8 starters there was no way peru would have played rounders with us. could you imagine jamaica going to the copa with eight ordinary players from arnet gardens, water house and mobay united? well that's what happened to us last night.
players like da silva, leston paul, plaza, cyrus, hector, john, winchester, marcus joseph, curtis gonzales, tristen hodges, williams from connection, and one other player who's name evades me, but they were all local who would not get a snuff at first team ball. it;'s time to stop playing games out side the fifa window, and this should be the very last time we do such a thing. it's watseful and amount to nothing, we can't even gauge how our best team would stand up to such an opposition so whats the use.
That's what I'm saying man, I find that you guys are stressing too much over this result...although i can understand given the recent rich vein of form your teams have been in going back last summer at the gold cup. I don't know, but you need a strong bench to get through world cup qualifying...at some point throughout a long campaign players will accumulate yellow cards, get red cards, get injured, lose passport , lose form, get old or get love sick from being away from their woman/women for long period of times. ehe heh. Not playing these games because of unavailability of starters would be sending the wrong message. All your stars today started out in your doemstic league, or most of them...so to ignore the very league that produced Joevin Jones etc is not the way forward.
while all that's true we are still yet to find quality opponents for the first team during fifa dates. my point is you never see argentina, brazil, usa, itally and england playing their senior team without their best players, and the reason for this is to have their first team familiar with each other so they can form a bond.
no piece together team no matter how good they are will beat a team that has chemestry and eqalibrium. just look at the usa for example. every time they run out they are at least playing with a different team except the core players like bradly and dempsey and i think that is why they are putting out so many bad performances.
in the past the usa would play with a core of team players, boca negra, oneywo, beasely, donovan, dempsey, cheng, sasha questren (or what ever his name is) franky hedjuk (whatever his name is) coby jones and eddie johnson. and these guys had enormous success because they played as a unit for years so they understood each other very well, that's how they got passed teams like brazil and spain because they had cohesion and that don't come but with time playing together.
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1. Big teams prefer to play Big teams during the Fifa window. We are not a big team.(some countries might even consider USA or even Ja a bigger team than we, just because they know them socially. Unless yuh say "Dwight Yorke ", maybe he can get us something)
2. The issue of not having 1st team together is affecting every country without a strong domestic league, or countries where the majority of players play abroad. Even the USA league and distance is affecting their training and selection. This now includes Euro teams - MLS/Asia.
3. Coaches are now attempting to develop blueprints & plans whereby they have as much players operating to that plan, so whoever comes together will be on the same page. Players who cannot follow the blueprint obviously will be left out.
4. We can refuse non-Fifa date games, and flying back our A team from all over the world (IF their club lets them) to play Concacaf teams on Fifa dates, but will the week stint put them in a groove ? or we can take the games and the coach re-inforces and teach ppl to read the blueprint, and have everyone execute the plan.
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Only looked at the highlights but 3 of the goals was due to our defense being very ordinary. Positioning of the keeper was also piss poor he didn't provide much resistance at the back.Hope we fear better against Uruguay seems we are going to have problems coping with the south american fast pace style of play.
Come on guys, if you think T&T looked bad against Peru, wiat until you see a full-strength, world #3 ranked Chile tackle the hapless reggaeboyz in Santiago on Friday. Ill be happy if we come away with 4-0 defeat. Heh heh.
Peru are no St. Vincent or Guatemala.
bredder, if we had our 8 starters there was no way peru would have played rounders with us. could you imagine jamaica going to the copa with eight ordinary players from arnet gardens, water house and mobay united? well that's what happened to us last night.
players like da silva, leston paul, plaza, cyrus, hector, john, winchester, marcus joseph, curtis gonzales, tristen hodges, williams from connection, and one other player who's name evades me, but they were all local who would not get a snuff at first team ball. it;'s time to stop playing games out side the fifa window, and this should be the very last time we do such a thing. it's watseful and amount to nothing, we can't even gauge how our best team would stand up to such an opposition so whats the use.
big up to the team!! you play your best fellas and that is all we could ever ask for. no one on that field could be accused of not putting the 100. first off.
second, this post real throw away the wheat with the chaff and has some misguided logic that all you need is 11 good players for an entire WC campaign. put all the eggs in that basket. b/c while many in your list didn't grab the opportunity i would like to see John, Marcus joseph, and williams again...maybe even hodges and de silva before I throw them out.
I for one glad the youths get a chance to experience what the top level of play is like...give them something to aspire to, you never know who will step up to the challenge in the future. The best teams does get 4 sometimes. Good luck against Uruguay Soca Warriors!
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Will say this too: we are still in the hunt for a Cornell Glen. The answer is not yet with us.
Good post, maxg.
Really? I think we have some players who can be as good or better. What we need is to push for a development system that will yield some Nakhids, and God willing, maybe a Latapy.
cornel glen what. kiss meh teeth. we have great attackers now compared to what we went to germany with. players like molino, jovin jones, levi garcia and cummings would put players like colin samuels, jason scotland, evens wise, anthony wolf and cornel glen to shame, only stern john and kenwin jones would have fit in with this new attacking squad.
Scotty would thrive better than KJ in this current team. And that's not a dis to KJ.
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Allyuh need to stop lying to allyuhself. MOST of these players on this team against Peru have played for TnT several occasions in the past. They are not new, most of them are NOT youths. We did not learn anything new from them against Peru. As expected they struggled. Winchester has been playing for T&T for years, same with Hector, same with Marvin Philip..the list goes on..so allyuh stop talking shit.
Now we are in the middle of a World Cup campaign and not having our first team play together (for whatever reason, FIFA date or not) to continue chemistry will not help them the next time they play together in a World Cup qualifier.
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Will say this too: we are still in the hunt for a Cornell Glen. The answer is not yet with us.
Good post, maxg.
Really? I think we have some players who can be as good or better. What we need is to push for a development system that will yield some Nakhids, and God willing, maybe a Latapy.
cornel glen what. kiss meh teeth. we have great attackers now compared to what we went to germany with. players like molino, jovin jones, levi garcia and cummings would put players like colin samuels, jason scotland, evens wise, anthony wolf and cornel glen to shame, only stern john and kenwin jones would have fit in with this new attacking squad.
Agreed. We have a stronger core of attacking players and greater defensive depth. What we do need are midfield organizer/hard man and a supporting creative cast to move the ball to these players.
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Will say this too: we are still in the hunt for a Cornell Glen. The answer is not yet with us.
Good post, maxg.
Really? I think we have some players who can be as good or better. What we need is to push for a development system that will yield some Nakhids, and God willing, maybe a Latapy.
That might be, but do we have the luxury of waiting for them to blossom? Who do you have in mind?
(By the way, note the comment was "a" Cornell, not necessarily the man himself).
Separately ...
I wonder what it would be like to have Trevin Caesar with extended use. Not sure what his defensive contribution is as a presence up front, but a player who places defences on their heels, helps us defensively by dictating caution for the opponent.
Generally, I don't find evidence of such dynamism in the stock of forwards.
Was disappointed by Winchester's election to go left last night when I thought he should have attacked the defender on the right. The difference? An intuitive, unpredictable player in Caesar versus one clearly thinking the game on the same sheet as the players tasked with defending him.
Discuss.
We have a more diversified set of goalscorers now, who can score consistently and down to the wire. Do you want to return to the days when T&T was dependent on the athleticism/effort of one or two players? Mind you I'm not refusing a player of that calibre...just saying this team needs a Nakhid/late stage Yorke or a Latas more than a Glenn.
In terms of explosiveness and speed no one is in Glenn's class. Maybe Garcia and Cato approach that...But we have a whole other assortment of attacking players who should be vying for selection by 2017. Brent Sam, Khadeem Corbin Ricardo John, Rundell Winchester and a few more from the U-23s etc.
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Why no one talking about our keeper......
We need a keeper badly.
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something just occurred to me maybe SH is being setup to fail.
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Why no one talking about our keeper......
We need a keeper badly.
you need to scroll back a few pages and you'll see where he got his fair share of criticism.
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Thanks
Things moving to quick on this topic.
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I don't like to...but I must:
If Hart keeps Cyrus in our starting 11 I am warning you all that there is a massive World Cup participation mistake in that boy that WILL cost us.
You can have all the athleticism and speed in the world but you see Brain ? sorry that boy does not have one.
He even playing club football ?
Massive liability. Squad player yes and should be used only in emergency at Right Back only. Him in the CB position will be a disaster.
Plaza is another one with the same skill set like Cyrus but zero brains.
Last night proved how important Andre Boucaud is to this team. Zero ball retention without him on the pitch
pure facts. couldn't have said it better myself.
Banter don't worry yourself, Cyrus ONLY playing in these games cause Hoyte couldn't make it. I've addressed the Cyrus issue -- and get fire for it -- on here before. I used to like him but he's not ready...hence the reason he's back at home playing in the pro league, it's pretty simple. Other coaches see the same thing poor humble me sees;)
Hopefully we have others who can play right back.
Additionally, Hart continued selection of Cyrus used to make me question his coaching ability?? Especially when I see Cyrus try to dribble midfielders -- and lose the ball -- right in front Hart? Then Hoyte came along and I was GOOD:)
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We all know JW get rid of the D wants SH to fail. He admitted to a reporter off the record that he had grounds to fire a Hart but did not because the public will not forgive him. He said coaches usually fire themselves so once we start to get nuff licks he will be history.
The team is well coached he just did not have the personnel to execute his plan.
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I don't like to...but I must:
If Hart keeps Cyrus in our starting 11 I am warning you all that there is a massive World Cup participation mistake in that boy that WILL cost us.
You can have all the athleticism and speed in the world but you see Brain ? sorry that boy does not have one.
He even playing club football ?
Massive liability. Squad player yes and should be used only in emergency at Right Back only. Him in the CB position will be a disaster.
Plaza is another one with the same skill set like Cyrus but zero brains.
Last night proved how important Andre Boucaud is to this team. Zero ball retention without him on the pitch
pure facts. couldn't have said it better myself.
Banter don't worry yourself, Cyrus ONLY playing in these games cause Hoyte couldn't make it. I've addressed the Cyrus issue -- and get fire for it -- on here before. I used to like him but he's not ready...hence the reason he's back at home playing in the pro league, it's pretty simple. Other coaches see the same thing poor humble me sees;)
Hopefully we have others who can play right back.
Additionally, Hart continued selection of Cyrus used to make me question his coaching ability?? Especially when I see Cyrus try to dribble midfielders -- and lose the ball -- right in front Hart? Then Hoyte came along and I was GOOD:)
Aubrey David and Mekeil Williams are playing right back at their clubs these days
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We all know JW get rid of the D wants SH to fail. He admitted to a reporter off the record that he had grounds to fire a Hart but did not because the public will not forgive him. He said coaches usually fire themselves so once we start to get nuff licks he will be history.
The team is well coached he just did not have the personnel to execute his plan.
i have a feeling that this is jack warner and the is 2006 warriors all over again with this disgusting david williams man. did anyone notice that since this man showed up as president we had a bad string of luck?
i believe timkee was our muse and we let him walk. it was the best time we ever had under a federation president. im saying all this to say that i loath this fat ugly man.
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I told men to bookmark my post from the beginning...
David want to replace Hart and he is trying his hardest to do it... He is a control freak, autocrat, dictator extraordinaire...
He fired the press officer in fear of negative press... he is organizing matches outside the window to make money and get caps for his players and his partners players... he doesn't care if we don't make world cup... that's not his goal..
David is not patriotic, he is not a true son of the soil, he's a seedy businessman/politician that runs a local team and has now been given the keys to the city... he doesn't want to answer to anyone... this is the man that was elected, when there was better men that could have lifted our football from the abyss... even tim kee was better by miles... which is saddening..
let the board learn their lesson and realize how idiotic they can be and naive... this 2nd team nonsense should not continue and it serves zero purpose... our first team not bonding and playing together, leaves us at a disadvantage... building a bench is important but after this exercise that should be it.. we have seen enough, the keeper needs to be replaced and others will remain on the fringes because they not up to scratch...
David doesn't have a clue what the hell he is doing btw...
Actually... I take that back, he does, but it is not aligned with the best interests of TT football...
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We all know JW get rid of the D JW 2.0 wants SH to fail. He admitted to a reporter off the record that he had grounds to fire a Hart but did not because the public will not forgive him. He said coaches usually fire themselves so once we start to get nuff licks he will be history.
The team is well coached he just did not have the personnel to execute his plan.
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Phillip - Inconsistent.
Hyland - Very inconsistent.
Cyrus - Has fallen off badly.
Plaza - Is not up to international standard.
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something just occurred to me maybe SH is being setup to fail.
Connect the dots for us a lil more. Paint a fuller picture nah.
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believe timkee was our muse and we let him walk. it was the best time we ever had under a federation president. im saying all this to say that i loath this fat ugly man.
Hindsight is 20/20 as the saying goes. But Every manjack(no pun intended), including me wanted Tim Kee out. TTFA was stagnant. We did not believe that RTK could take the TTFA forward. So we advocate for change. DJW convinced the voters(none of us on this forum could vote) that he can do better. The voters(we all know who they are) voted for him. Contro was against DJW from the beginning. But I could not remember which candidate he backed. But the election was fair. So right now, we need to support the players and the coach, and keep the flambo under the TTFA backside. When the next election come up, all the big mouths on this forum should form a coalition and support(moral, vocal and FINANCIAL) a candidate that we think will serve the interest of FOOTBALL in TT.
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We gonna be alright, we were outplayed, over matched and were deficient in talent versus the opposition.
As SH said, this is to evaluate individual players and their level right now and it certainly has done that. Two more games to go, i think the selection headache that was promoted after the last set of qualifiers is not as pronounced as we probably thought.
I think we have a strong group of around 12-15 players. The dozen other players, most of who are on tour are basically squad players and not up to the pace of international football as a collective group. I think if SH can identify 1 or 2 players to insert when it becomes necessary then this tour would be successful. The friendly results will only impact our ability to get more friendlies but if we continue to excel during qualifying then it negates that to some extent.
What makes it clear to me is that one or two strong players does not make a team and even strong players like Hyland and Garcia can look quite ordinary if the rest of team are off the pace. This is a team, there are no stars even in the core group and it takes every piece of the puzzle to work properly.
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We gonna be alright, we were outplayed, over matched and were deficient in talent versus the opposition.
As SH said, this is to evaluate individual players and their level right now and it certainly has done that. Two more games to go, i think the selection headache that was promoted after the last set of qualifiers is not as pronounced as we probably thought.
I think we have a strong group of around 12-15 players. The dozen other players, most of who are on tour are basically squad players and not up to the pace of international football as a collective group. I think if SH can identify 1 or 2 players to insert when it becomes necessary then this tour would be successful. The friendly results will only impact our ability to get more friendlies but if we continue to excel during qualifying then it negates that to some extent.
What makes it clear to me is that one or two strong players does not make a team and even strong players like Hyland and Garcia can look quite ordinary if the rest of team are off the pace. This is a team, there are no stars even in the core group and it takes every piece of the puzzle to work properly.
:beermug:
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We gonna be alright, we were outplayed, over matched and were deficient in talent versus the opposition.
As SH said, this is to evaluate individual players and their level right now and it certainly has done that. Two more games to go, i think the selection headache that was promoted after the last set of qualifiers is not as pronounced as we probably thought.
I think we have a strong group of around 12-15 players. The dozen other players, most of who are on tour are basically squad players and not up to the pace of international football as a collective group. I think if SH can identify 1 or 2 players to insert when it becomes necessary then this tour would be successful. The friendly results will only impact our ability to get more friendlies but if we continue to excel during qualifying then it negates that to some extent.
What makes it clear to me is that one or two strong players does not make a team and even strong players like Hyland and Garcia can look quite ordinary if the rest of team are off the pace. This is a team, there are no stars even in the core group and it takes every piece of the puzzle to work properly.
Well said g :beermug:
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It's not the players fault. TT Pro league is a walking league. It's not so much a matter of talent because there are talented players but they lack the fitness and intensity to step on the international stage. Any decent player should leave TT Pro as soon as possible. Even Nicaragua league is better and more intense and a step in the right direction.
DL your organization has done a terrific job in exposing these players to a new kind of football in Central and North America. You mentioned that John is going on trial in the MLS and most of your players have taken advantage of the opportunity. Since it is obvious that pro league play does not prepare most to play international football, are there any other of your clients who are going on trial after the tour. I know you probably can't name names or teams but any others besides John?