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Title: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on September 07, 2016, 05:47:55 AM
As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on the 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifying T&T vs USA (http://www.espnfc.us/match?gameId=466983) game in USA on the 8th of June 2017 will be posted here, this way, we can maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.

Tickets:

http://www.altitudetickets.com/event/us-men-s-national-team-vs-trinidad-tobago-8490/

For the internet users, you can follow the game at:

To be updated.

Possible Online Streams.

To be updated.

Possible TV Station.

To be updated.

Trinidad & Tobago Squad

Goalkeepers:

Jan-Michael Williams (North East Stars), Marvin Phillip (Point Fortin Civic Centre FC), Adrian Foncette (Police FC).

Defenders:

Carlos Edwards (Central FC), Aubrey David (PS Kemi Kings—FIN), Alvin Jones (W Connection), Radanfah Abu Bakr (FK Sūduva Marijampolė—LTU), Mekeil Williams (Colorado Rapids—USA), Triston Hodge (W Connection), Sheldon Bateau (Krylia Sovetov Samara—RUS), Daneil Cyrus (Unattached), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force).

Midfielders:

Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders FC—USA), Andre Boucaud (Dagenham & Redbridge—ENG), Kevan George (Jacksonville Armada—USA), Hashim Arcia (Defence Force), Khaleem Hyland (KVC Westerlo—BEL), Leston Paul (North East Stars), Kevin Molino (Minnesota United FC—USA), Hughtun Hector (W Connection), Nathan Lewis (San Juan Jabloteh).

Forwards:

Shahdon Winchester (Murcielagos FC—MEX), Jamille Boatswain (Defence Force), Kenwyne Jones (Atlanta United—USA).

Coach - Dennis Lawrence.

USA Squad

Goalkeepers:

Brad Guzan (Atlanta United), Ethan Horvath (Club Brugge—BEL), Tim Howard (Colorado Rapids), Nick Rimando (Real Salt Lake).

Defenders:

DaMarcus Beasley (Houston Dynamo), Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City), John Brooks (VfL Wolfsburg—GER), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City—ENG), Omar Gonzalez (C.F. Pachuca—MEX), Matt Hedges (FC Dallas), Tim Ream (Fulham FC—ENG), Jorge Villafaña (Santos Laguna—MEX), DeAndre Yedlin (Newcastle United—END), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City).

Midfielders:

Kellyn Acosta (FC Dallas), Paul Arriola (Club Tijuana—MEX), Alejandro Bedoya (Philadelphia Union), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC—CAN), Fabian Johnson (Borussia Mönchengladbach—GER), Dax McCarty (Chicago Fire), Darlington Nagbe (Portland Timbers), Christian Pulisic (Borussia Dortmund—GER).

Forwards:

Jozy Altidore (Toronto FC—CAN), Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders), Jordan Morris (Seattle Sounders), Bobby Wood (Hamburger SV—GER).

Coach - Bruce Arena.


Updates to follow as we get more info, so keep checking back.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (7/8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on October 10, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
USA eyes Colorado for June World Cup qualifier vs Trinidad and Tobago
By Grant Wahl (si.com)


Jurgen Klinsmann has already said that he’d like to have the U.S.’s camp at altitude before next June’s World Cup qualifier at Estadio Azteca against Mexico. Sources say that U.S. Soccer has started looking into playing that home qualifier against Trinidad and Tobago in the Denver area at Dick's Sporting Goods Park, in Commerce City, Colorado.

The last time the U.S. played a qualifier at the venue was the famous SnowClásico against Costa Rica in 2013, which was also right before the away game at Mexico.

The U.S. is considering training that week in Colorado Springs, which is at an even higher altitude than Denver.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (7/8-Jun-2017)
Post by: pull stones on October 10, 2016, 10:24:47 PM
Is it just me or is there problem logging on to the website from a personal computer? I have been trying to log on from my PC since sataurday and still no luck, luckily for me I have a tablet that allows me to log in to the site. Does anyone have the same difficulties?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (7/8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on January 29, 2017, 04:28:47 PM
Bruce Arena guarantees qualification (http://www.espnfc.us/world-cup-qualifying-concacaf/64/video/3048932/bruce-arena-guarantees-qualification)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (7/8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Controversial on January 29, 2017, 08:27:39 PM
Bruce Arena guarantees qualification (http://www.espnfc.us/world-cup-qualifying-concacaf/64/video/3048932/bruce-arena-guarantees-qualification)



We all know that... klinnsmann could have said this before the qualifying lol
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on April 02, 2017, 07:58:31 AM
Colorado awarded next World Cup qualifying match for Tim Howard and USMNT
By Mark Kiszla (Denver Post)


When goalie Tim Howard and the American men need to kick their soccer into high gear, they know exactly where to go: Denver.

So the next big steps toward qualifying for the 2018 World Cup will be taken in Colorado, as the U.S. men’s national team has decided to play Trinidad and Tobago at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park. Formal announcement of the game, scheduled for June 8, is expected Monday.

More than a reward for local soccer fans, the selection of Denver was a strategic move by USMNT coach Bruce Arena. With players returning from overseas from European clubs, as well as MLS stars such as Howard reporting to camp, the U.S. squad is scheduled to begin training May 29 in the thin air of Colorado.

Playing at altitude could offer the American side a distinct home-field advantage against Trinidad and Tobago, a dual-island Caribbean nation of 1.3 million people. Perhaps even more important, the extensive conditioning period in Denver figures to increase the U.S. squad’s fitness for a quick-turnaround road match June 11 in Mexico, whose Azteca Stadium is notorious for sitting at 7,280 feet above sea level and being filled with nasty pollution, as well as passionate supporters.

“Our goal is to win both games. And it certainly won’t be easy,” Arena told me.

Team USA has been re-energized under the direction of Arena, who replaced longtime coach Jurgen Klinsmann after the Americans stumbled to a 0-2 start in the final round of qualifying for next year’s World Cup in Russia.

The steady hand of the 65-year-old Arenas confidently removed anxious fingers from the panic button, by guiding the team to a 6-0 rout of Honduras and earning a point with a 1-1 tie at Panama during the first CONCACAF Hexagonal action of his second stint as the U.S. manager.

“It changed everything for the better,” Arena said during a telephone interview. “We found out we have good depth of talent. We have a number of players who want to lead. And they’re all highly motivated to play in the World Cup.”

The USMNT has fond (and frigid) memories of Colorado. On the third day of spring in 2013, the struggling Americans arrived at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park desperately in search of a victory against Costa Rica, and instead got hit in the teeth with a wicked blast from a nasty storm. But they also were blessed with an early goal by Clint Dempsey that stood up in a blizzard as the second half raged on. Costa Rica was not amused. But the controversial result will forever live in U.S. soccer lore as the “Snow Clasico.”

The same Rapids stadium where a U.S. team in trouble four years ago got the ball rolling for a World Cup berth in Brazil will be back at center stage in June, and Rapids standout Howard should also play a key role.

After a lengthy recovery from a groin injury, Howard returned as a starter for Team USA against both Honduras and Panama. Although the veteran goalie celebrated his 38th birthday last month, Howard proved he is not done yet.

“I don’t think he’s playing another 10 years,” Arena said. “But Tim Howard is certainly capable of being the U.S. goalkeeper at the next World Cup.”
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Trini Madness on April 02, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
We have to keep possession and move up the field. Similar to how Mexico played against us. I'm hoping we get some to get accustomed to the altitude.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: fari on April 02, 2017, 12:51:50 PM
forumites, i am based in the Mile High City...link me if you all coming in town for the match, i am there, jump high jump low...it's on a Thursday so I imagine men will be taking Friday off ;D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: fari on April 02, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
   ticket not on sale yet but check here:


 https://www.ussoccer.com/schedule-tickets
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on April 02, 2017, 04:37:54 PM
forumites, i am based in the Mile High City...link me if you all coming in town for the match, i am there, jump high jump low...it's on a Thursday so I imagine men will be taking Friday off ;D

That settles it! Pre-game lime by your house! If it have other trinis is Denver you all have to work hard to outdo Jacksonville - they was boss hosts for the last match.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: AB.Trini on April 02, 2017, 11:17:54 PM
Planning on attending this game - anyone with information on  accommodation closest to the field? and are there many  from in here Attending? Anyone organizing a section for SW forumnites

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Cocorite on April 03, 2017, 08:19:23 AM
Time for T&T to put a field on our tallest mountain to prepare for these games . . .
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Mose on April 03, 2017, 08:30:53 AM
Time for T&T to put a field on our tallest mountain to prepare for these games . . .

Nowhere near, tall enough!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: gawd on pitch on April 03, 2017, 08:41:57 AM
I'm not surprised this game is at Mile high. We need excellent preparation for this one. We can scrape a point from them.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: maxg on April 03, 2017, 08:58:33 AM
Time for T&T to put a field on our tallest mountain to prepare for these games . . .

Nowhere near, tall enough!
sent out the scouts   :devil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndzgAbDCso
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 03, 2017, 09:11:46 AM
forumites, i am based in the Mile High City...link me if you all coming in town for the match, i am there, jump high jump low...it's on a Thursday so I imagine men will be taking Friday off ;D

I in dat!!  So pre-game by you ah wha?!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sando prince on April 03, 2017, 11:41:03 AM
Question: When last T&T senior team draw or win a football match against the US in the US?
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on April 03, 2017, 12:06:51 PM
when to arrive for a game at altitude?

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Two models: The Smash and Grab vs Patience pays
There is not too much research on this question.  That may be surprising, but remember that for most professional athletes, across all sports, the issue of when to arrive at altitude is one that they rarely even contemplate.  In Europe, sport is rarely played at even these moderate altitudes.  In the USA, it happens so infrequently as to be an inefficient way to investigate physiology.  And for individual endurance athletes, like cyclists and runners, altitude training is part of the package, with a majority now spending time at some altitude before racing, even at sea-level.

However, a couple of approaches have emerged, most of them from Super Rugby (a competition involving professional teams from New Zealand, Australia and South Africa), and from the Tri-Nations, an international competition between SA, Australia and New Zealand.  In these tournaments, the Australian and New Zealand teams will travel to South Africa and spend either two or three weeks here, during which time they would play one or two matches at altitude (1,500m or higher).

So they consider this question all the time – do they stay at sea-level and travel up only for matches?  Or do they base themselves at altitude and go down?  This is the same question faced by World Cup teams in 2010.

What has emerged are two models, which I’ve called:

1 - The Smash and Grab

2 - The Patience pays

Below is a figure that summarizes these models.  But basically:

In the “Smash and Grab”, teams believe that there are two optimal windows for performance, and that if you play very soon after arriving, or much later, you’ll achieve best performance.  In this approach, performances will get worse before they get better, so you are better off arriving very late and thus playing almost immediately, or you arrive very early and allow for adaptation.  This is what most of the New Zealand and Australian teams do – the idea is “get in, play, get out, and the altitude won’t affect us too badly.”

In the patience pays theory, teams will perform worst on arrival, and then improve.  In contrast to the late arrival, smash and grab theory, your performance doesn’t get worse before it gets better.  It starts badly, and then improves steadily.  Therefore, your best chance is to get in as early as possible and play only after allow full adaptation.  This, incidentally, is what most of the 2010 World Cup teams have chosen to do.

FULL ARTICLE (https://sportsscientists.com/2010/06/altitude-arriving-and-adapting/)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on April 03, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: fari on April 03, 2017, 05:07:40 PM
forumites, i am based in the Mile High City...link me if you all coming in town for the match, i am there, jump high jump low...it's on a Thursday so I imagine men will be taking Friday off ;D

I in dat!!  So pre-game by you ah wha?!!


bro we could lime by me or by a tavern less than 5 mins walk from my house  :cheers:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sando prince on April 04, 2017, 09:25:18 AM
Question: When last T&T senior team draw or win a football match against the US in the US?
.



So based on response I will take it we have NEVER win or even draw against the US in the US.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on April 04, 2017, 09:58:31 AM
Question: When last T&T senior team draw or win a football match against the US in the US?
.
So based on response I will take it we have NEVER win or even draw against the US in the US.
I remembered we tied them 1-1 in the HEX during the Strike Squad days when Marlon Morris dived and flicked on a header in the path of Hudson Charles to run on and place it past the keeper for the equalizer. For some reason I've always remembered that goal.
Oh and the game was in the US, I believe it was in Conn.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on April 04, 2017, 10:05:37 AM
Question: When last T&T senior team draw or win a football match against the US in the US?
.
So based on response I will take it we have NEVER win or even draw against the US in the US.
I remembered we tied them 1-1 in the HEX during the Strike Squad days when Marlon Morris dived and flicked on a header in the path of Hudson Charles to run on and place it past the keeper for the equalizer. For some reason I've always remembered that goal.
Oh and the game was in the US, I believe it was in Conn.

Yes, dat is de only time we've earned a point against de USA in de USA. The game was at Murdock Stadium, El Camino College, Torrance, California.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Adam Lake on April 05, 2017, 04:11:58 PM
Question: When last T&T senior team draw or win a football match against the US in the US?
.
So based on response I will take it we have NEVER win or even draw against the US in the US.
I remembered we tied them 1-1 in the HEX during the Strike Squad days when Marlon Morris dived and flicked on a header in the path of Hudson Charles to run on and place it past the keeper for the equalizer. For some reason I've always remembered that goal.
Oh and the game was in the US, I believe it was in Conn.

That was a beautiful play to split the US defence... I vaguely remember Latapy, I think it was that attempted a bicycle kick in that game that went just wide of the post... 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 05, 2017, 05:23:16 PM
forumites, i am based in the Mile High City...link me if you all coming in town for the match, i am there, jump high jump low...it's on a Thursday so I imagine men will be taking Friday off ;D

I in dat!!  So pre-game by you ah wha?!!


bro we could lime by me or by a tavern less than 5 mins walk from my house  :cheers:

I coming through!!  Been spending the past few days checking flights and hotels........as a man based in the Mile High City tell mih something should I stay at a hotel near the stadium or near the airport?..... :thinking:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on April 05, 2017, 07:48:41 PM
Browns, yuh doh want to stay near the airport. Dahis a good hike to the stadium with nothing much to do otherwise in the vicinity.

fari, might have specific neighborhood suggestions but I think the area near and/or around the 16th Street Mall wouldn't be a bad start for consideration.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on April 05, 2017, 09:53:09 PM
Question: When last T&T senior team draw or win a football match against the US in the US?
.
So based on response I will take it we have NEVER win or even draw against the US in the US.
I remembered we tied them 1-1 in the HEX during the Strike Squad days when Marlon Morris dived and flicked on a header in the path of Hudson Charles to run on and place it past the keeper for the equalizer. For some reason I've always remembered that goal.
Oh and the game was in the US, I believe it was in Conn.

Yes, dat is de only time we've earned a point against de USA in de USA. The game was at Murdock Stadium, El Camino College, Torrance, California.
Damn that's like 28 years since we've even tied the US on their home soil, and it have men here saying we're a top team in Concacaf
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sando prince on April 06, 2017, 01:47:30 AM
Question: When last T&T senior team draw or win a football match against the US in the US?
.
So based on response I will take it we have NEVER win or even draw against the US in the US.
I remembered we tied them 1-1 in the HEX during the Strike Squad days when Marlon Morris dived and flicked on a header in the path of Hudson Charles to run on and place it past the keeper for the equalizer. For some reason I've always remembered that goal.
Oh and the game was in the US, I believe it was in Conn.

Yes, dat is de only time we've earned a point against de USA in de USA. The game was at Murdock Stadium, El Camino College, Torrance, California.
Damn that's like 28 years since we've even tied the US on their home soil, and it have men here saying we're a top team in Concacaf

 :D obviously men who not sober
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: isaachunt on April 06, 2017, 01:59:55 PM
I living Denver too. Wha section we going with? What tavern, Fari?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on April 06, 2017, 02:25:12 PM
I coming through!!  Been spending the past few days checking flights and hotels........as a man based in the Mile High City tell mih something should I stay at a hotel near the stadium or near the airport?..... :thinking:

After yuh recent video...doh be surprised if yuh get invited to stay at somebody home fuh "free"  ;)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on April 06, 2017, 04:07:53 PM
I coming through!!  Been spending the past few days checking flights and hotels........as a man based in the Mile High City tell mih something should I stay at a hotel near the stadium or near the airport?..... :thinking:

After yuh recent video...doh be surprised if yuh get invited to stay at somebody home fuh "free"  ;)
:rotfl: allyuh not easy
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: AB.Trini on April 06, 2017, 08:44:30 PM
I am looking at coming through- anyone with ideas on  good hotels close to Stadium? For people coming through, where is everyone staying?
Where do you get tickets?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Fyzoman on April 07, 2017, 05:26:36 AM
Yeah I saving my lil money and will watch our best defender sit on the bench on tv...while the Pulisic has his way with our wet-behind-the-ears central defenders.

Yeah -- sadly -- they cah tie me up again...I get lil glad after Panama but when our best defender can have a warm seat on the bench against Mexico?? Nah I good.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: maxg on April 07, 2017, 08:38:32 AM
Yeah I saving my lil money and will watch our best defender sit on the bench on tv...while the Pulisic has his way with our wet-behind-the-ears central defenders.

Yeah -- sadly -- they cah tie me up again...I get lil glad after Panama but when our best defender can have a warm seat on the bench against Mexico?? Nah I good.
??? ???
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: lefty on April 07, 2017, 09:09:28 AM
Yeah I saving my lil money and will watch our best defender sit on the bench on tv...while the Pulisic has his way with our wet-behind-the-ears central defenders.

Yeah -- sadly -- they cah tie me up again...I get lil glad after Panama but when our best defender can have a warm seat on the bench against Mexico?? Nah I good.
fyzo is not like d defensive pairing get smashed yuh know, yuh realise that is was 1-0 and that we "should could would" have won dat game right....bateau value is undeniable, but to make out like d CBs who were chosen failed or would fail really have no basis right now.....if yuh cyah support d collective because of one player den I sorry for you...dat not makin sense 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Adam Lake on April 07, 2017, 02:14:32 PM
Yeah I saving my lil money and will watch our best defender sit on the bench on tv...while the Pulisic has his way with our wet-behind-the-ears central defenders.

Yeah -- sadly -- they cah tie me up again...I get lil glad after Panama but when our best defender can have a warm seat on the bench against Mexico?? Nah I good.
??? ???

DFAQ Fyzo tryna say.... I thought was only me confused.... Like i hadda use google translate to understand...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 07, 2017, 07:28:06 PM
Browns, yuh doh want to stay near the airport. Dahis a good hike to the stadium with nothing much to do otherwise in the vicinity.

fari, might have specific neighborhood suggestions but I think the area near and/or around the 16th Street Mall wouldn't be a bad start for consideration.

Thanks for the info. I am arranging with a friend and she found a hotel around the corner from the stadium.  So we definitely looking at places closer to the stadium......
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 07, 2017, 07:32:01 PM
I coming through!!  Been spending the past few days checking flights and hotels........as a man based in the Mile High City tell mih something should I stay at a hotel near the stadium or near the airport?..... :thinking:

After yuh recent video...doh be surprised if yuh get invited to stay at somebody home fuh "free"  ;)
:rotfl: allyuh not easy

Lawd fadder.....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on April 07, 2017, 07:47:22 PM
Browns, yuh doh want to stay near the airport. Dahis a good hike to the stadium with nothing much to do otherwise in the vicinity.

fari, might have specific neighborhood suggestions but I think the area near and/or around the 16th Street Mall wouldn't be a bad start for consideration.

Thanks for the info. I am arranging with a friend and she found a hotel around the corner from the stadium.  So we definitely looking at places closer to the stadium......

:beermug:


Well look how you just aided ticket sales. We sure to notice increased activity on this thread.  :)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 07, 2017, 08:34:52 PM
Browns, yuh doh want to stay near the airport. Dahis a good hike to the stadium with nothing much to do otherwise in the vicinity.

fari, might have specific neighborhood suggestions but I think the area near and/or around the 16th Street Mall wouldn't be a bad start for consideration.

Thanks for the info. I am arranging with a friend and she found a hotel around the corner from the stadium.  So we definitely looking at places closer to the stadium......

:beermug:


Well look how you just aided ticket sales. We sure to notice increased activity on this thread.  :)



Smh..... :)

We found this place so far....still checking.....

https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148 (https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sam on April 08, 2017, 04:21:31 AM
Smh..... :)

We found this place so far....still checking.....

https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148 (https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148)

If you alone going I wouldn't mind splitting a room with you.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 08, 2017, 03:23:27 PM
Smh..... :)

We found this place so far....still checking.....

https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148 (https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148)

If you alone going I wouldn't mind splitting a room with you.



Suuuuurrrre Sam, suuuurrreeee.....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 08, 2017, 03:35:06 PM
Found this one too....

https://www.expedia.com/Denver-Hotels-DoubleTree-By-Hilton-Hotel-Denver.h13848.Hotel-Information?chkin=6%2F7%2F2017&chkout=6%2F10%2F2017&rm1=a2&regionId=0&hwrqCacheKey=68359b45-983f-45be-bccb-a350a4641c49HWRQ1491687178843&vip=false&c=b968075f-203b-42eb-8914-5215d228e5be&&exp_dp=159&exp_ts=1491687179691&exp_curr=USD&exp_pg=HSR (https://www.expedia.com/Denver-Hotels-DoubleTree-By-Hilton-Hotel-Denver.h13848.Hotel-Information?chkin=6%2F7%2F2017&chkout=6%2F10%2F2017&rm1=a2&regionId=0&hwrqCacheKey=68359b45-983f-45be-bccb-a350a4641c49HWRQ1491687178843&vip=false&c=b968075f-203b-42eb-8914-5215d228e5be&&exp_dp=159&exp_ts=1491687179691&exp_curr=USD&exp_pg=HSR)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sam on April 11, 2017, 06:48:54 AM
Smh..... :)

We found this place so far....still checking.....

https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148 (https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148)

If you alone going I wouldn't mind splitting a room with you.



Suuuuurrrre Sam, suuuurrreeee.....

So we on??

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on April 11, 2017, 02:53:30 PM
Smh..... :)

We found this place so far....still checking.....

https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148 (https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148)

If you alone going I wouldn't mind splitting a room with you.



Suuuuurrrre Sam, suuuurrreeee.....

So we on??

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Perhaps the best definition of optimism, I've seen.  :rotfl:  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on April 11, 2017, 03:12:13 PM
Smh..... :)

We found this place so far....still checking.....

https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148 (https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148)

If you alone going I wouldn't mind splitting a room with you.



Suuuuurrrre Sam, suuuurrreeee.....

So we on??

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Perhaps the best definition of optimism, I've seen.  :rotfl:  :rotfl:

I'm no accountant but if the 3 of them share a room everyone will come out better off.....in terms of price :devil:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on April 11, 2017, 05:52:32 PM
Smh..... :)

We found this place so far....still checking.....

https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148 (https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/laquinta-inn.en-gb.html?aid=378266;sid=b4a4c3b68f220305cf8fac5af6f96148)

If you alone going I wouldn't mind splitting a room with you.



Suuuuurrrre Sam, suuuurrreeee.....

So we on??

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Perhaps the best definition of optimism, I've seen.  :rotfl:  :rotfl:

I'm no accountant but if the 3 of them share a room everyone will come out better off.....in terms of price :devil:

https://www.youtube.com/v/xIWxk8OUZTc
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: MEP on April 11, 2017, 06:40:47 PM
allyuh have to watch Sam you know he does act like ah ol raperman from up in de Bush sometimes when he see nice ooman....no damn class lol

btw de way Brownie if yuh get a suite I een...de pullout bed is mine ....ah does snore loud but fart quiet.....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: pull stones on April 12, 2017, 04:24:42 AM
Yeah I saving my lil money and will watch our best defender sit on the bench on tv...while the Pulisic has his way with our wet-behind-the-ears central defenders.

Yeah -- sadly -- they cah tie me up again...I get lil glad after Panama but when our best defender can have a warm seat on the bench against Mexico?? Nah I good.
maybe our best defender was not match fit or carrying a knock, did that ever occur to you?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 12, 2017, 05:07:31 AM
allyuh have to watch Sam you know he does act like ah ol raperman from up in de Bush sometimes when he see nice ooman....no damn class lol

btw de way Brownie if yuh get a suite I een...de pullout bed is mine ....ah does snore loud but fart quiet.....

 :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: fari on April 12, 2017, 04:39:44 PM
Ok, so tickets out...price is up there so be forewarned...i might look to call mines tomorrow...they charging $20 to park (not the case for a normal rapids game) so factor that into play also

http://www.altitudetickets.com/event/us-men-s-national-team-vs-trinidad-tobago-8490/?tags=EM_ALTA_170412_A_319880820&utm_source=EM_170412&utm_medium=EM&utm_campaign=ALTA_319880820



also the stadium is about 25 mins from the airport so it is up to you all as to where you want to stay...there are several hotels on Pena Blvd near the airport as well as along i 70 in close proximity to the stadium...the area near the stadium is kinda in the boondocks imho


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Quality+Inn+%26+Suites+Denver+Stapleton/@39.768639,-104.9143952,14z/data=!4m15!1m9!2m8!1sHotels!3m6!1sHotels!2sDick%E2%80%99s+Sporting+Goods+Park,+6000+Victory+Way,+Commerce+City,+CO+80022!3s0x876c7af5fb6e9da3:0xb3ad67321d1e2b9d!4m2!1d-104.891812!2d39.805687!3m4!1s0x876c7b97f8287d85:0xe59ffc4ade2cda68!8m2!3d39.7686385!4d-104.9039841
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: E-man on April 13, 2017, 06:13:12 AM
Presale starts today
http://www.altitudetickets.com/event/us-men-s-national-team-vs-trinidad-tobago-8490/
presale code D4BOLD
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on April 13, 2017, 08:13:32 AM
Tallman, last game u had insider info where the rhythm section was going & be. You have any idea if anybody who could beat a iron or anything like that planning to sit? Or if they planning to go this game?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: fari on April 13, 2017, 12:40:51 PM
  nah alyuh, them tix is $485 for me and meh oman.   i go be outside the stadium in my jersey jed, that price too steep :-[
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on April 13, 2017, 01:53:52 PM
  nah alyuh, them tix is $485 for me and meh oman.   i go be outside the stadium in my jersey jed, that price too steep :-[
That sound like all inclusive tickets...that too expensive for real
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on April 13, 2017, 03:35:26 PM
Tallman, last game u had insider info where the rhythm section was going & be. You have any idea if anybody who could beat a iron or anything like that planning to sit? Or if they planning to go this game?

Me eh know what de Trini community is like out dey, and I eh hear nutten yet.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on April 13, 2017, 03:35:53 PM
Seating Chart

(http://www.ussoccer.com/~/media/files/tickets/stadiums/2017/20170608-dsg-park-mntvtri.jpg?la=en)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on April 13, 2017, 04:43:39 PM
  nah alyuh, them tix is $485 for me and meh oman.   i go be outside the stadium in my jersey jed, that price too steep :-[

Dat is a effective way to keep out opposition supporters

Who have  de bess freshwater accent?  We could get dem to order fuh we.  We just might get a discount
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on April 13, 2017, 11:12:47 PM
Seating Chart

(http://www.ussoccer.com/~/media/files/tickets/stadiums/2017/20170608-dsg-park-mntvtri.jpg?la=en)
So Lehwe be lil organized and choose a section nah!!!
By the corner flag: 134, 135, 136 dey (like the Jax game) ? Brownie you choose and all dem tusty men go follow ;)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Feliziano on April 14, 2017, 07:07:03 AM
  nah alyuh, them tix is $485 for me and meh oman.   i go be outside the stadium in my jersey jed, that price too steep :-[

Dat is a effective way to keep out opposition supporters

Who have  de bess freshwater accent?  We could get dem to order fuh we.  We just might get a discount

The presale event is usually catered to diehard US fans and only for certain sections. I was looking at the Patio section but they had no info if it was free food and drinks etc, but they got sold out anyway.

Wait for the 'official' public release.
I highly doubt they will advertise a T&T section, all we can do is pick a section and spread the word for all those Trini groups online to buy their tickets there.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Feliziano on April 14, 2017, 07:21:26 AM
Flying in on early morning Tues 6th and leaving Friday evening, here's a couple things I would be doing while in Colorado:

1. http://metallicadenver.com/  :notworthy:

2. Can't go wrong with 5 free mugs of beer   :cheers:
http://visitgolden.com/coors-brewery/

3. http://redrocksonline.com/the-park/tours

4. http://cograilway.com/

5. June 6th http://www.box-officetickets.com/Events/MLB-Baseball-Tickets/Cleveland-Indians-at-Colorado-Rockies/2153391 or June 7th http://www.box-officetickets.com/Events/MLB-Baseball-Tickets/Cleveland-Indians-at-Colorado-Rockies/2153393

6. http://denvercaribbean.com/ - A friend of mine's restaurant

Fari, add some more things for us out-of-towners :)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on April 14, 2017, 10:12:00 AM
anybody get thru buyin a ticket yet? is sold out they sold out fast? or is a glitch on teh website / my browser?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: fari on April 14, 2017, 10:24:50 AM
Kounty...i used the code and after the frustrating part of the click on mountains, signs etc i got to the purchase page (dais when i almost kilkitay when i see the price)...a friend of a friend hooked me up tho so i will be at the game after all thank god


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: fari on April 14, 2017, 10:28:55 AM
Flying in on early morning Tues 6th and leaving Friday evening, here's a couple things I would be doing while in Colorado:

1. http://metallicadenver.com/  :notworthy:

2. Can't go wrong with 5 free mugs of beer   :cheers:
http://visitgolden.com/coors-brewery/

3. http://redrocksonline.com/the-park/tours

4. http://cograilway.com/

5. June 6th http://www.box-officetickets.com/Events/MLB-Baseball-Tickets/Cleveland-Indians-at-Colorado-Rockies/2153391 or June 7th http://www.box-officetickets.com/Events/MLB-Baseball-Tickets/Cleveland-Indians-at-Colorado-Rockies/2153393

6. http://denvercaribbean.com/ - A friend of mine's restaurant

Fari, add some more things for us out-of-towners :)


good list there bro...a coworker says he can get 3rd base seats for the Rockies games so closer to the date i will board him


if you like candy go to Hammond's...some of us may need to carry back something nice for the missus and chirren
http://www.hammondscandies.com/factory-tours-parties


16th St Mall does remind me of walking in sando (down to the pee smell and all)...but it have some tourist shops and stuff
https://www.denver.org/things-to-do/denver-attractions/16th-street-mall/


for men who like craft beer it have nuff of them places here also

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on April 14, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
TICKETS ARE SOLD OUT! (https://www.denverite.com/u-s-mens-national-teams-world-cup-qualifier-dicks-sporting-goods-park-already-sold-33799/). Got to get them on the secondary market now.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: fari on April 14, 2017, 04:31:07 PM
TICKETS ARE SOLD OUT! (https://www.denverite.com/u-s-mens-national-teams-world-cup-qualifier-dicks-sporting-goods-park-already-sold-33799/). Got to get them on the secondary market now.


how Ras?  they said that only e-tickets, no paper tix...i using my credit card to enter the venue...this is a real pressha scene jed
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on April 14, 2017, 07:57:51 PM
http://www.altitudetickets.com/event/us-men-s-national-team-vs-trinidad-tobago-8490/
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on April 14, 2017, 10:18:35 PM
http://www.altitudetickets.com/event/us-men-s-national-team-vs-trinidad-tobago-8490/
Why u post that link again. No tickets there.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on April 15, 2017, 12:07:34 AM
http://www.altitudetickets.com/event/us-men-s-national-team-vs-trinidad-tobago-8490/
Why u post that link again. No tickets there.

Yeah man, tix at least available via bid. Flash Seats option.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: fari on April 15, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
https://www.denverite.com/u-s-mens-national-teams-world-cup-qualifier-dicks-sporting-goods-park-already-sold-33799/


the article say to try stubhub
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 20, 2017, 06:04:19 PM
So hotel and flight booked but no game ticket.....steups!!  Mih friend say she trying to organise something through de TTFF....eh too sure how that going to work since paper tix are a no go.....and I skeptical about anything TTFF but....she say to ask if anybody interested in getting tix that way......need de info by Sunday.....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on April 24, 2017, 02:39:38 PM
So hotel and flight booked but no game ticket.....steups!!  Mih friend say she trying to organise something through de TTFF....eh too sure how that going to work since paper tix are a no go.....and I skeptical about anything TTFF but....she say to ask if anybody interested in getting tix that way......need de info by Sunday.....

So yuh gettin tru ah wha?  I only see this today otherwise I woulda tell yuh link meh on da scenes same way.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Brownsugar on April 24, 2017, 02:46:20 PM
So hotel and flight booked but no game ticket.....steups!!  Mih friend say she trying to organise something through de TTFF....eh too sure how that going to work since paper tix are a no go.....and I skeptical about anything TTFF but....she say to ask if anybody interested in getting tix that way......need de info by Sunday.....

So yuh gettin tru ah wha?  I only see this today otherwise I woulda tell yuh link meh on da scenes same way.

I'm trying to get more details on the arrangements being made because the paperless ticket thing kinda have a mih ah tad wary......
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Feliziano on April 24, 2017, 03:27:22 PM
So hotel and flight booked but no game ticket.....steups!!  Mih friend say she trying to organise something through de TTFF....eh too sure how that going to work since paper tix are a no go.....and I skeptical about anything TTFF but....she say to ask if anybody interested in getting tix that way......need de info by Sunday.....

So yuh gettin tru ah wha?  I only see this today otherwise I woulda tell yuh link meh on da scenes same way.

I'm trying to get more details on the arrangements being made because the paperless ticket thing kinda have a mih ah tad wary......
The paperless thing is only thru AXS.
They already knew the robots wouldn't need paper lol
Just make sure any ticket you get have bar codes though.
Title: Additional tickets on sale for USA vs Trinidad and Tobago
Post by: Tallman on April 24, 2017, 04:31:10 PM
Additional tickets on sale for USA vs Trinidad and Tobago
ussoccer.com


Due to high demand, U.S. Soccer is adding additional seating for the 2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifier between the U.S. Men’s National Team and Trinidad & Tobago, presented by Liberty Mutual Insurance.

Bleacher seats are being added at the North Endline and other feasible spaces at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park, which will host the match on June 8 at 5:50 p.m. MT (FS1, Univision Networks). Tickets will be sold on a first-come, first-served basis through ussoccer.com starting Tuesday, April 25, at 10 a.m. MT. Individuals can purchase a maximum of four (4) tickets. [TICKETS (http://www.ussoccer.com/schedule-tickets/20170608-us-mnt-vs-trinidad-and-tobago)]

As was the case for previous matches this year, U.S. Soccer will be utilizing mobile tickets for the event.

Beyond the newly-added seats, a small number of tickets remain available currently for the Midfield & Sideline Tables, as well as some limited-view seating. In addition, Ultimate Fan Tickets (special VIP packages that include a premium ticket, a custom-made official U.S. National Team jersey with name and number, VIP access to the field before the game, and other unique benefits) are available exclusively through ussoccer.com.

Coaches Circle and Presidents Circle members supporting the U.S. Soccer Development Fund (http://developmentfund.ussoccer.com/circles-and-benefits/) can receive individual customer support and concierge services for their ticketing needs. Click here (http://developmentfund.ussoccer.com/circles-and-benefits/) or contact circles@ussoccer.org for more information.

The Hyatt Place Denver/Downtown will serve as the official FanHQ Hotel and is designated as the premier accommodation spot for fans looking to get the most out of the USA-Trinidad & Tobago experience. The hotel is the hub for activities, including a hotel bar takeover, merchandise sales and game day shuttle pick-up location. To make a reservation at the Official FanHQ Hotel, click here.

Enjoy pregame at the U.S. Soccer Fan Hospitality Tailgate in FanHQ for USA vs. Trinidad & Tobago on Thursday, June 8. Located in the VIP East Lot, across from Gate D, the Fan Hospitality Tailgate will be open from 2 p.m. to 6 p.m. and include food, drinks and music! Click here to purchase your Fan Hospitality Tailgate pass.

DSG Park is hosting a World Cup Qualifier for the third-consecutive qualifying cycle. The U.S. has posted two shutout victories, including the famous Snowclasico (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9xuaQDkmL8) in 2013 against Costa Rica. Overall, the United States is 4-1-0 all-time in the state of Colorado.

Now sitting in fourth place after four matches, the home game against T&T presents a huge opportunity to #Get3 points and maintain momentum at the halfway point of the six-team Final Round of World Cup Qualifying, also known as the Hexagonal. Three days later, the MNT will seek to win a Qualifier in Mexico City for the first time when they take on regional rival Mexico at the famed Estadio Azteca. [HEX STANDINGS (http://www.ussoccer.com/mens-national-team/tournaments/2018-fifa-world-cup-qualifying-final-round#tab-4)]
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on April 28, 2017, 01:43:06 AM
High demand for TT-US qualifier tickets in Denver.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).


Due to an overwhelming demand for game tickets, US Soccer was forced to add additional seating for the June 8th World Cup qualifier against this country’s senior men at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park. Tickets were sold out early and an additional 1000 were sold on a first-come, first-served basis through ussoccer.com on Tuesday where Individuals were allowed to purchase a maximum of four (4) tickets.

Bleacher seats are being added at the North Endline and other feasible spaces at Dick’s Sporting Goods.

Beyond the newly-added seats, a small number of tickets remain available currently for the Midfield & Sideline Tables, as well as some limited-view seating. In addition, Ultimate Fan Tickets (special VIP packages that include a premium ticket, a custom-made official US national team jersey with name and number, VIP access to the field before the game, and other unique benefits) are available exclusively through ussoccer.com.

Coaches Circle and Presidents Circle members supporting the US Soccer Development Fund can receive individual customer support and concierge services for their ticketing needs.

The Hyatt Place Denver/Downtown will serve as the official FanHQ Hotel and is designated as the premier accommodation spot for fans looking to get the most out of the USA-Trinidad & Tobago experience.

T&T plays Grenada on Saturday in St George’s in a warm up before traveling to Colorado next month for a residential training camp ahead of the World Cup qualifier on June 8th. They face Costa Rica in San Jose on June 13th.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on April 28, 2017, 07:38:22 AM
I hope we can beat them in front of this massive crowd, added motivation for our players and bulletin board material for DL.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: andre samuel on April 29, 2017, 01:53:26 AM
I hope we can beat them in front of this massive crowd, added motivation for our players and bulletin board material for DL.

Massive crowd?? the capacity of this stadium is 18K
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sam on May 06, 2017, 05:47:06 AM
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=22820.msg244515#msg244515

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on May 09, 2017, 02:53:57 PM
U.S.'s Jermaine Jones out 3-4 weeks with knee injury, doubt to face Mexico
ESPN


United States midfielder Jermaine Jones is a doubt to face Mexico next month after suffering a knee injury with the LA Galaxy.

Jones was hurt in the first half of the Galaxy's draw with Chicago on Saturday night when he fell awkwardly after the ball struck him in the head.

The Galaxy said he will miss the next three to four weeks with a sprained MCL in his right knee, the same one the 35-year-old injured last year that caused him to miss three and a half months of the MLS season.

The injury will make it difficult for U.S. coach Bruce Arena to call him into the national team for World Cup qualifiers against Trinidad & Tobago and Mexico on June 8 and 11.

Jones started in the U.S.'s defeats to Costa Rica and Mexico in November that cost previous coach Jurgen Klinsmann his job. He was suspended for the 6-0 win over Honduras in March before returning to the lineup for the 1-1 draw at Panama.

LA will likely be without Jones for a string of four straight road games at New York, Minnesota, San Jose and D.C. United.

The Galaxy are already without midfielder Sebastian Lletget, who broke his foot with the national team in March and is likely to miss another two to four months.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on May 16, 2017, 01:41:01 AM
Lawrence finalises Training Camp in Colorado ahead of WCQ vs USA.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago head coach Dennis Lawrence has finalised his plans for an extended training camp in  Colorado beginning on May 23rd ahead of this country’s 2018 World Cup qualifier against the United States on June 8th.

Lawrence spent two days in Colorado last week during which time he conducted site visits on potential training facilities and hotels before making his final decisions. The team’s training base will be at Prentup Field in Colorado. The T&T team is also expected to play up to two closed-door training matches there in the build up to June 8th.

Before that, Lawrence will conduct training sessions in Trinidad from Thursday May 18th with some of the home-based players who are part of a provisional selection.

“The home-based players and the staff will get to Colorado on May 23rd and then we get down to work with the idea obviously being for the players to get acclimatised in the best possible manner and also get physically ready for the game The overseas players will get there by June 4th and then we will push on with the final part of preparations,” Lawrence told TTFA Media.

“I had the opportunity to conduct a site visit and I am satisfied with what we’ve come up with, particularly with the support of the Association to ensure that we get this done in a proper fashion. The facility has basically  everything we will need during our time there,” Lawrence said.

Prentup Field is a 160,000 square foot facility that contains a 120×75 yard game field along with a practice area. It is a native soil field and is equipped with an automated irrigation system. It is located on the East Campus of the University of Colorado at Boulder, has been the home of Colorado Soccer since 2003.

RELATED NEWS

Lawrence takes home-based players to Colorado on 23 May, T&T finalise USA preparation.
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868).


The Pro League will kick off without its marquee Trinidad and Tobago international players as Soca Warriors head coach Dennis Lawrence got the green light to take a home-based squad to Colorado on 23 May to prepare for next month’s 2018 World Cup qualifier away to the United States.

The travelling squad could also include several overseas-based players whose domestic season would have ended by then, including Khaleem Hyland (KV Westerlo—Belgium), Levi Garcia (AZ Alkmaar—Netherlands), Sheldon Bateau (Krylia Sovetov Samara—Russia) (Murcielagos FC—Mexico) and Shahdon Winchester.

The Warriors meet the United States on 8 June at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park in Commerce City, Colorado, which is 5,223 feet above sea level. It is the home ground for US Major League Soccer (MLS) team Colorado Rapids which employs Trinidad and Tobago defender Mekeil Williams.

Trinidad and Tobago play at altitude again, five days later, as they travel to San Jose to tackle Costa Rica at 3,845 feet above sea level.

“The home-based players and the staff will get to Colorado on May 23rd and then we get down to work,” Lawrence told the TTFA Media, “with the idea obviously being for the players to get acclimatised in the best possible manner and also get physically ready for the game.”

Lawrence expects his full squad to be present at the training camp in Prentup Field, Colorado by 4 June.

The TTFA announced that the Warriors hope to have two closed door friendlies before the 9 June fixture. However, with no international opponent identified, the games are expected to be against local club or university opposition.

In contrast, the United States will tackle Venezuela in an exhibition match at Utah on 3 June—five days before they face Trinidad and Tobago.

Lawrence was at the Hasely Crawford Stadium yesterday for 2017 Caribbean Club Championship action and would have been pleased to see two of his international players on the score sheet.

San Juan Jabloteh winger Nathan Lewis and Central FC full back Carlos Edwards scored decisive goals as they eased to wins in their opening group matches against Haiti’s Racing Club and Antigua’s Grenades FC respectively.

There was a strong showing too by Central playmaker Sean De Silva while his colleague Nathaniel “Spanish” Garcia scored a cracking drive. However, attacking midfielder Keron Cummings was an unused substitute for the “Couva Sharks” and remains a peripheral figure at domestic level since he was shot in the leg, a year and a half ago.

The Pro League is due to kick off on 26 May with the Charity Shield. But the local clubs—Central included—have agreed to allow their players to join the national team camp and continue with weakened squads.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sam on May 16, 2017, 05:34:20 AM
Portable oxygen canisters, enough sleep and monster drinks on game day and we good.

Ah sure Mekeil Williams go give them a few tips.

De TTFA should contact Dion La Foucade he base in Boulder a few years now, he could help them get games and accustom to de place.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on May 19, 2017, 05:02:20 AM
Edwards eager for Colorado training camp.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).


T&T veteran midfielder Carlos Edwards believes the team’s two-week training camp in Colorado, USA in preparations for the June 8th World Cup qualifier against the United States, is a exactly what is needed in order to give them a decent enough chance to pulling off a result.

Edwards has lined up against the US on more than five occasions in World Cup qualification and knows what it is to face them away from home. Edwards will travel to Colorado on Tuesday with the provisional squad to prepare for the encounter.

“I’ve had the opportunity to play against them maybe four or five times both home and away and it is always a situation where have a fair chance but the result is hard to come by. Even the last time we played them, we went there thinking that a result was possible but we conceded four goals,” Edwards said.

“The key to us getting a good result is strong preparation and I think by going there this early is definitely vital for us. The decision by Dennis (Lawrence) to go in there to help us settle early is a good step,” added the former Sunderland player.

Edwards looked ahead to the match itself, saying it would come down to the team that plays right to the final whistle.

“We have to take our A-game to Colorado. If we start well and weather the storm and enter the second half without conceding or at least level, we have it in us to pull it off. We have to be patient but very cautious as well because once they get on top of us, then we could have problems. But now we have a squad with experience, obviously with some of the players knowing what it is like to play in the US, we have the skill and the desire that I think can take us through. A positive result will be brilliant for us at this stage of the campaign,” Edwards said.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on May 19, 2017, 05:03:00 AM
Altidore anxious to face T&T.
By Shaun Fuentes (Guardian).


With the June 8th World Cup qualifier fast approaching, American forward Jozy Altidore seems very excited to take the field at Dick’s Sporting Goods to face T&T.

“We know that now is the time to deliver and we are ready to do that,” Altidore told USA Today Sports.

The US suffered a frustrating start to this qualifying phase, losing at home to Mexico and 4-0 in Costa Rica, results that led to the firing of former coach Jurgen Klinsmann. Things quickly improved under Bruce Arena, with a 6-0 victory at home to Honduras in March being followed by a hard-fought 1-1 tie in Panama.

Altidore has a strong history against T&T, scoring a hat-trick in 2009 World Cup qualifying campaign, and then a double in the 4-0 win last year.

“We are moving in the right direction and we know these next two games are hugely important to what we want to achieve,” he said. “It is an exciting time. We are playing with more freedom and expression and we are ready to go.”

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on May 23, 2017, 04:14:13 AM
17-man T&T squad off to Denver to begin training camp ahead of WCQ vs USA.
TTFA Media.


A 17-man Trinidad and Tobago squad along with head coach Dennis Lawrene and his staff will depart for Denver, Colorado on Tuesday morning at 9 am to begin a residential training camp in the build up to the CONCACAF World Cup qualifying final round encounter against the United States at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park on June 8th.

Lawrence completed a home-based 5-day training camp on Monday morning at Ato Boldon Stadium before selecting 17 players to travel. The final squad for the World Cup qualifier including the overseas-based players will be announced in early June.

The players arriving in Denver on Tuesday night include Jan-Michael Williams, Marvin Phillip, Adrian Foncette, Daneil Cyrus, Alvin Jones, Triston Hodge, Leston Paul, Nathan Lewis, Carlos Edwards, Hashim Arcia, Jamille Boatswain, Akeem Roach, Curtis Gonzales, Hughtun Hector, Willis Plaza, Jomal Williams and Shahdon Winchester. (This is not the Final Squad)

Also joining the squad later this week will be Khaleem Hyland, Sheldon Bateau and Levi Garcia.

“We’ve got the two games against the US and Costa Rica, so the idea has been to prepare the boys in the best possible way. We have had five sessions at home with a group of players who have been able to help us start the preparations. The idea is to get there (Denver) and try to acclimatise as quick as possible so we will be starting work there immediately. Seventeen players will be traveling on Tuesday. Some will be coming back because the final squad has not been selected as yet.We expect to have the full contingent on June 4th,” Lawrence told TTFA Media.

“We’ve arranged two closed-door games. We will play Colorado Rapids in two matches and its suits us because they are a home team there. It will be a good competitive test for us.”

Lawrence said it was vital for the T&T squad to believe that they can pull off a positive result in Denver.

“Everyone understands the history shows that it’s not a nice place for us in terms of collecting points but we have to believe that we can go there and get points. We have to go there and be positive and brave as I continue to say. I have tried to emphasise to the boys is that we are leaving here and starting with a point so the idea is we are not going there to give away the point, but instead add to the point that we’ve already got,” Lawrence added.

“When we get to Costa Rica we will deal with that but the idea now is to come away with a positive result in the next game which is against the United States.

“The main thing is to make sure that from an acclimatisation point that we are well prepared physically. In terms of how we intend to approach the games, we are gong to be on the front foot and try to compete with them. We are going to go toe to toe because I don’t think we can afford to sit back and allow the US to take full control of the game . It;s not going to be easy because historically it’s not a generous place for us to go to but we need to try and start thinking differently now and believe we can go there and accomplish things,” the T&T head coach stated.

T&T will be training at Prentup Field which is a 160,000 square foot facility that contains a 120×75 yard game field along with a practice area. It is a native soil field and is equipped with an automated irrigation system. It is located on the East Campus of the University of Colorado at Boulder, has been the home of Colorado Soccer since 2003.

Squad

Goalkeepers:

Jan-Michael Williams (North East Stars), Marvin Phillip (Unattached), Adrian Foncette (Police FC);

Defenders:

Alvin Jones (W Connection), Carlos Edwards (Central FC), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force), Daneil Cyrus (North East Stars), Sheldon Bateau (KC Krylia Sovetov—Russia), Triston Hodge (W Connection);

Midfielders:

Khaleem Hyland (KV Westerlo—Belgium), Hughtun Hector (W Connection), Leston Paul (North East Stars);

Attacking midfielders:

Nathan Lewis (San Juan Jabloteh), Hashim Arcia (Defence Force), Jomal Williams (Murcielagos FC—Mexico), Levi Garcia (AZ Alkmaar—Netherlands);

Forwards:

Willis Plaza (East Bengal—India), Jamille Boatswain (Defence Force), Akeem Roach (Unattached), Shahdon Winchester (Murcielagos FC—Mexico).



Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on May 23, 2017, 04:59:01 AM
The closed door prep has to happen. No doubt. However, it's also a bit illusory because there is NO doubt in my mind that Mastroeni will share what he sees with Bruce Arena.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 23, 2017, 07:36:16 AM
Who is the player with the dread ..???

https://www.youtube.com/v/E6V8sWySpfs
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sam on May 23, 2017, 08:17:28 AM
Excellent work by the TTFA.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on May 23, 2017, 09:38:46 AM
The closed door prep has to happen. No doubt. However, it's also a bit illusory because there is NO doubt in my mind that Mastroeni will share what he sees with Bruce Arena.
I think the Rapids could video the game and even share the footage. We boy Thomas Rongen may even show up. I'm happy for the games nonetheless.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on May 23, 2017, 10:18:38 AM
The closed door prep has to happen. No doubt. However, it's also a bit illusory because there is NO doubt in my mind that Mastroeni will share what he sees with Bruce Arena.
I think the Rapids could video the game and even share the footage. We boy Thomas Rongen may even show up. I'm happy for the games nonetheless.

Yuh done know.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: maxg on May 23, 2017, 11:04:40 AM
The closed door prep has to happen. No doubt. However, it's also a bit illusory because there is NO doubt in my mind that Mastroeni will share what he sees with Bruce Arena.
I think the Rapids could video the game and even share the footage. We boy Thomas Rongen may even show up. I'm happy for the games nonetheless.


Yuh done know.
No matter, we watching for plenty years and we doh know what we go do, if they watch we video, they go be more confused than informed.   :devil:

Let dem plan...we doh even do wha we plan
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on May 23, 2017, 11:28:40 AM
The closed door prep has to happen. No doubt. However, it's also a bit illusory because there is NO doubt in my mind that Mastroeni will share what he sees with Bruce Arena.
I think the Rapids could video the game and even share the footage. We boy Thomas Rongen may even show up. I'm happy for the games nonetheless.


Yuh done know.
No matter, we watching for plenty years and we doh know what we go do, if they watch we video, they go be more confused than informed.   :devil:

Let dem plan...we doh even do wha we plan
:rotfl: I literally busted out laughing
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on May 24, 2017, 09:36:32 PM
T&T Senior Men get first feel of Colorado conditions.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men got their first feel of the Colorado conditions as Dennis Lawrence conducted his first practice session of the residential training camp at Prentup Field,University of Colorado at 5:30pm (7:30pm TT Time) on Wednesday.

The 17-man squad arrived from Port of Spain on Tuesday night along with the technical staff and was joined by English-based midfielder Andre Boucaud.

On May 28th, T&T will play the first of two practice games against Colorado Rapids at the Rapids training field, located mere metres away from Dick’s Sporting Goods Park, the venue for the World Cup qualifier against the United States on June 8th. The US national team will also train at the Training Field from around May 29th.

The  temperatures in Denver, Colorado range between 20 to 29 degrees celcius during the day but drops to as low as 16 degrees celsius at night time this week. Colorado which is nicknamed the Mile-High City because its official elevation, is exactly one mile (5280 feet) above sea level, making it the highest major city in the United States.

“It’s obviously good for us to get there and we’ll take the first day to allow the players to get a feel of the environment and the conditions. The reason we are out here is to get down to work immediately with the eighteen players available to us now with a few more expected over the next couple of days,” Lawrence told TTFA Media.

Boucaud meantime is anticipating the training camp, describing Lawrence’s decision to come here this early before gameday as critical.

“When I got the news that I’d have to fly over directly to Denver on the 23rd, I thought well this is exactly what we need and with my season ending, it was perfect timing for me to meet up with the group,” Boucaud told TTFA Media.

“The next few days are extremely important for us in terms of preparing well and acclimatising for the match. We have a lot of belief and good reasons to think that we can get something from this match but the work has to be put in and I’m happy that the coach has been able to get the camp off with the help of the association. Once the full compliment of players are here and coach gets to work with his final squad from the early part of June then it’s down to us to go everything necessary to take us into the game fully ready,” Boucaud said.



WATCH: Soca Warriors arrive in Colorado

https://www.youtube.com/v/4vgySiWpIcI
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sam on May 25, 2017, 06:01:22 AM
Drink plenty water guys, even if allyuh not trusty and get full sleep.



Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on May 25, 2017, 04:39:22 PM
WATCH: Soca Warriors Denver Training Camp - Day 1

https://www.youtube.com/v/Y5ltJIbTtFk
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: coache on May 25, 2017, 06:35:30 PM
nice to see the powers that be spent money fuh de team to train at high elevation..my concern is the quality of the training and practice sessions..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on May 25, 2017, 07:15:26 PM
nice to see the powers that be spent money fuh de team to train at high elevation..my concern is the quality of the training and practice sessions..

Based on the video clip?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Controversial on May 26, 2017, 12:18:05 AM
nice to see the powers that be spent money fuh de team to train at high elevation..my concern is the quality of the training and practice sessions..

Based on the video clip?

I would be more concerned on the quality and experience of the coaching, first and foremost

You can train at high altitude for a month in advance and still lose because your coach makes the wrong decisions in selection and strategy
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on May 26, 2017, 06:18:37 AM
nice to see the powers that be spent money fuh de team to train at high elevation..my concern is the quality of the training and practice sessions..

Based on the video clip?

I would be more concerned on the quality and experience of the coaching, first and foremost

You can train at high altitude for a month in advance and still lose because your coach makes the wrong decisions in selection and strategy
nice to see the powers that be spent money fuh de team to train at high elevation..my concern is the quality of the training and practice sessions..

Based on the video clip?

I would be more concerned on the quality and experience of the coaching, first and foremost

You can train at high altitude for a month in advance and still lose because your coach makes the wrong decisions in selection and strategy

Contro, that's a very general statement that can be used to describe an outcome for ANY team...what would you suggest for this current team in the present situation, that is, games played, games upcoming to turn the tide? It easy to point a finger...finger pointing don't equate into 3 points though...actually, what is it with you? I supported coach Hart big time, and I was disappointed he was let go...moving forward though, I have seen the warriors knocking a good brand under Lawrence and at the end of the day, it's about supporting the team...if they on shit, they on shit, but it seems like they fighting...so what else you want given the current situation man? Enough with the negativity...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 26, 2017, 06:58:45 AM
Where is Sol Campbell ???
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Thomo on May 26, 2017, 07:06:45 AM
nice to see the powers that be spent money fuh de team to train at high elevation..my concern is the quality of the training and practice sessions..

Based on the video clip?

I would be more concerned on the quality and experience of the coaching, first and foremost

You can train at high altitude for a month in advance and still lose because your coach makes the wrong decisions in selection and strategy
nice to see the powers that be spent money fuh de team to train at high elevation..my concern is the quality of the training and practice sessions..

Based on the video clip?

I would be more concerned on the quality and experience of the coaching, first and foremost

You can train at high altitude for a month in advance and still lose because your coach makes the wrong decisions in selection and strategy

Contro, that's a very general statement that can be used to describe an outcome for ANY team...what would you suggest for this current team in the present situation, that is, games played, games upcoming to turn the tide? It easy to point a finger...finger pointing don't equate into 3 points though...actually, what is it with you? I supported coach Hart big time, and I was disappointed he was let go...moving forward though, I have seen the warriors knocking a good brand under Lawrence and at the end of the day, it's about supporting the team...if they on shit, they on shit, but it seems like they fighting...so what else you want given the current situation man? Enough with the negativity...

Stallion just ignore that Contro. What you say dey, is what plenty posters alike say already. He's like a broken record. All he does is throw out a whole heap of conspiracy theories and when one barely stick he shout,"aha ent ah did tell alyuh so". Fellas even have a thread dedicated to him and his idiotic rhetoric, fuss dey fed up. He latest trick now is comparing Hart and Lawrence and their "brands" in addition to his usual DJW gripe. Question him at anytime and you is one ah DJW minions. Everybody move on and working with what available and focused on the task at hand which is WCQ but he still infatuated with Hart. Posters complaining they hate commenting and posting just so that he won't reply with a rant. 99.9% of regular posters and he don't agree but it's always the world according to Contro is the only one we should live in. I fuh one does just come to read, rather than post. Don't need all dat grief in my life at all from a keyboard terrorist! Watch the vitriol going and spew now eh but like before I can't be bothered to reply. So Stallion, do yuh self a favor bro and ignore him for your own sanity.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on May 26, 2017, 07:16:08 AM
nice to see the powers that be spent money fuh de team to train at high elevation..my concern is the quality of the training and practice sessions..

Based on the video clip?

I would be more concerned on the quality and experience of the coaching, first and foremost

You can train at high altitude for a month in advance and still lose because your coach makes the wrong decisions in selection and strategy
nice to see the powers that be spent money fuh de team to train at high elevation..my concern is the quality of the training and practice sessions..

Based on the video clip?

I would be more concerned on the quality and experience of the coaching, first and foremost

You can train at high altitude for a month in advance and still lose because your coach makes the wrong decisions in selection and strategy

Contro, that's a very general statement that can be used to describe an outcome for ANY team...what would you suggest for this current team in the present situation, that is, games played, games upcoming to turn the tide? It easy to point a finger...finger pointing don't equate into 3 points though...actually, what is it with you? I supported coach Hart big time, and I was disappointed he was let go...moving forward though, I have seen the warriors knocking a good brand under Lawrence and at the end of the day, it's about supporting the team...if they on shit, they on shit, but it seems like they fighting...so what else you want given the current situation man? Enough with the negativity...

Stallion just ignore that Contro. What you say dey, is what plenty posters alike say already. He's like a broken record. All he does is throw out a whole heap of conspiracy theories and when one stick he shout,"aha ent ah did tell alyuh so". Fellas even have a thread dedicated to him and his rhetoric, fuss dey fed up. He latest trick now is comparing Hart and Lawrence. Posters complaining they hate commenting and posting just so that he won't reply with a rant. 90% of regular posters and he don't agree but it's always the world according to Contro is the only one we should live in. I fuh one does just come to read, rather than post. Don't need all dat grief in my life at all from a keyboard terrorist! Watch the vitriol going and spew now eh but like before I can't be bothered to reply. So Stallion, do yuh self a favor bro and ignore him for your own sanity.

I hear yuh...and I seen it every single day, conspiracy this, DJW that...every single day...but yea I guess...figured I'd just ask...not like anything would change I guess. Just the negativity...game time coming and things not perfect, no where near, but oh gosh...just support the team, the coach, the country...is like he just waiting for the campaign to be over to say "I told you so," kinda thing...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Brownsugar on May 26, 2017, 07:35:10 AM
Where is Sol Campbell ???
Yuh know, I went to check he twitter  page this morning to see what he tweeting about de trip and......nada...

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on May 26, 2017, 09:37:21 AM
Where is Sol Campbell ???
Yuh know, I went to check he twitter  page this morning to see what he tweeting about de trip and......nada...

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk



Sol busy watching tape of the Costa Rica & US defenses for flaws, to help strategize on how we could penetrate  ;D or him jus limin in H'england till the real defense reach [never mind aubrey & cyrus].
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on May 26, 2017, 04:46:15 PM
WATCH: Defender Carlos Edwards gives an update on Trinidad and Tobago’s training camp in Denver

https://www.youtube.com/v/b8XucODQpj4
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: R45 on May 27, 2017, 12:19:31 AM
The closed door prep has to happen. No doubt. However, it's also a bit illusory because there is NO doubt in my mind that Mastroeni will share what he sees with Bruce Arena.
I think the Rapids could video the game and even share the footage. We boy Thomas Rongen may even show up. I'm happy for the games nonetheless.


Yuh done know.
No matter, we watching for plenty years and we doh know what we go do, if they watch we video, they go be more confused than informed.   :devil:

Let dem plan...we doh even do wha we plan
:rotfl:

So true though - video won't change much for the US.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on May 27, 2017, 01:39:38 AM
Where is Sol Campbell ???

He will link up with the team on the 1st.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on May 27, 2017, 01:41:40 AM
Lawrence continues to assess players at high altitude training.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s 18-man squad entered their third day of training at the Prentup Field in Colorado on Friday as the build up continues to the June 8th World Cup Qualifier against the United States at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park.

Head Coach Dennis Lawrence has conducted evening sessions at the facility as the players go through the process of becoming acclimatized to the conditions in Colorado.

Lawrence is expected to name his final squad next week but will be assessing the players currently in camp before doing so. Lawrence and his staff have been monitoring the fitness levels of the players through the GPS Tracking system being operated by Stephen Bradley, team football scientist currently with the contingent in Denver.

The low humidity in Colorado keeps the air dry, like the desert.As altitude increases, performance decreases and Bradley is keeping Lawrence posted on the levels.

According to the experts and other sport officials here in Denver, a major factor when playing any sport here or wherever there are higher altitudes, is the reduction in the pressure of oxygen. From a physiological standpoint, oxygen exchange in the lungs is based off a pressure gradient. In order for oxygenated blood to be delivered throughout the body, there needs to be a certain amount of pressure to help drive oxygen-rich blood from the lungs into the bloodstream.

Acclimatization at higher altitudes can range from a few days to multiple weeks for the body to be able to regulate when exercising. The Match venue in Denver is located 5,280 feet above sea level and where the team is currently training at, the Prenup Field, is actually higher at 5,430, feet above sea level. The Mexican national team also uses Prenup to prepare for games in Mexico City.

Carlos Edwards, who is five caps away from 100 international appearances, said the sessions in the first couple days was necessary for the players to start adapting to the high altitude with the air being dryer and thinner.

“So far, so good. The guys have been put through their paces over the last few days. It’e been tough but at the same time it’s work well planned and I think the guys are relishing getting acclimatised to the conditions,” Edwards told TTFA Media on Friday.

“It was a good blow for 45 minutes in the first session. The guys have stuck to what has been put forward to them. The breathing has become easier as the days have gone along. I felt it a bit in the warm up yesterday. The first day was a bit challenging but things have eased up a bit as the days went along,” added the former Sunderland man.

“The cohesion in the camp is second to none and this will make the bond a bit stronger. There are a few guys who will have to leave camp and some will join is but everyone is focused on giving their best at the moment.”

At age 38, Edwards intends to keep going, particularly being just off the centurion mark.

“First and the foremost is to help T&T qualify for World Cup 2018. I would like to play as long as possible but obviously the body will eventually say differently but right now I am here to put my best foot out there for the country and the team,” Edwards added.

Carlos Edwards talks about early part of training camp (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8XucODQpj4)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Thomo on May 27, 2017, 03:00:19 AM
nice to see the powers that be spent money fuh de team to train at high elevation..my concern is the quality of the training and practice sessions..

Based on the video clip?

I would be more concerned on the quality and experience of the coaching, first and foremost

You can train at high altitude for a month in advance and still lose because your coach makes the wrong decisions in selection and strategy
nice to see the powers that be spent money fuh de team to train at high elevation..my concern is the quality of the training and practice sessions..

Based on the video clip?

I would be more concerned on the quality and experience of the coaching, first and foremost

You can train at high altitude for a month in advance and still lose because your coach makes the wrong decisions in selection and strategy

Contro, that's a very general statement that can be used to describe an outcome for ANY team...what would you suggest for this current team in the present situation, that is, games played, games upcoming to turn the tide? It easy to point a finger...finger pointing don't equate into 3 points though...actually, what is it with you? I supported coach Hart big time, and I was disappointed he was let go...moving forward though, I have seen the warriors knocking a good brand under Lawrence and at the end of the day, it's about supporting the team...if they on shit, they on shit, but it seems like they fighting...so what else you want given the current situation man? Enough with the negativity...

Stallion just ignore that Contro. What you say dey, is what plenty posters alike say already. He's like a broken record. All he does is throw out a whole heap of conspiracy theories and when one stick he shout,"aha ent ah did tell alyuh so". Fellas even have a thread dedicated to him and his rhetoric, fuss dey fed up. He latest trick now is comparing Hart and Lawrence. Posters complaining they hate commenting and posting just so that he won't reply with a rant. 90% of regular posters and he don't agree but it's always the world according to Contro is the only one we should live in. I fuh one does just come to read, rather than post. Don't need all dat grief in my life at all from a keyboard terrorist! Watch the vitriol going and spew now eh but like before I can't be bothered to reply. So Stallion, do yuh self a favor bro and ignore him for your own sanity.

I hear yuh...and I seen it every single day, conspiracy this, DJW that...every single day...but yea I guess...figured I'd just ask...not like anything would change I guess. Just the negativity...game time coming and things not perfect, no where near, but oh gosh...just support the team, the coach, the country...is like he just waiting for the campaign to be over to say "I told you so," kinda thing...

Ent...Steups
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sando on May 27, 2017, 04:10:33 AM
Give credit where credit is due.

The TTFA doing a pretty decent job.

An official home

Youth teams playing and training.

Senior team in Denver early.

Women team active.

Grassroots in order.

I just don't like some of the people there, like Issa and Shabaaz, but everything else is good.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: isaachunt on May 27, 2017, 07:45:18 PM
Anyone know the time of the practice game against Colorado Rapids tomorrow?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: coache on May 28, 2017, 10:32:12 AM
I wish the team all the luck...I know that Dennis Lawrence is a big Coach from Everton but I still feel from the footage the training look like Trinidad level..School boy level even.

If yuh training/practicing at altitude, time, intensity, and recovery should be qualitative vs quantitative.

The USA coming to do de business quick, fast and in a hurry.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: ffisback on May 28, 2017, 01:13:57 PM
The U S A should win this game easily especially with this rookie coach that they pick to coach this team.
Title: Sol Campbell ?
Post by: christiano on May 28, 2017, 02:51:52 PM
What is the latest ? Has he left the post as Asst Coach ? any reasons given ?
Title: Re: Sol Campbell ?
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 28, 2017, 03:08:25 PM
What is the latest ? Has he left the post as Asst Coach ? any reasons given ?

i am wondering also
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: FF on May 28, 2017, 03:27:26 PM
Where is Sol Campbell ???

He will link up with the team on the 1st.


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on May 29, 2017, 05:39:07 AM
US names Roster for World Cup qualifier vs T&T.
TTFA Media.


United States head coach Bruce Arena announced a 27-man roster on Sunday to face Trinidad and Tobago and Mexico in World Cup qualifying action on June 8th and 11th respectively.

The US squad will begin a training camp in Denver from Monday before facing Venezuela in an international Friendly in Salt Lake City on June 2nd. Members of the Trinidad and Tobago squad have been in Denver at a training camp since June 23rd.

T&T Head Coach Dennis Lawrence will announce his roster for the qualifiers next week after assessing the players currently in camp at Prentup Field.

The roster breakdown for the US is: 14 players from MLS, nine from European leagues, three from the Mexican circuit and one (Brad Guzan) who is in the process of moving to MLS (Atlanta) from England (Middlesbrough).

Arena selected a larger-than-usual group (27 instead of 23 or 25) because of a tight timetable (two games in four days instead of five as Mexico has to play earlier due ), the possible effects of playing at altitude and the yellow card situation. Geoff Cameron, John Brooks, Jozy Altidore, Michael Bradley and Matt Besler are carrying cards and, with their next booking, will have to sit out one match.

“I think we have a good group,” Arena said in a release. “I’m still in the early goings with this team and I haven’t seen all of our players, so this camp gives me the opportunity to see six new faces we haven’t had in with the team yet, which is valuable.

“It’s also great that we’re able to bring back 21 players that have been in with our program already in 2017. We have a roster that has good balance all over, we have good young players and hopefully it’s a team we can put together to get us points in both games.”

US Squad

Goalkeepers:

Brad Guzan (Atlanta United), Ethan Horvath (Club Brugge), Tim Howard (Colorado Rapids), Nick Rimando (Real Salt Lake).

Defenders:

DaMarcus Beasley (Houston Dynamo), Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City), John Brooks (VfL Wolfsburg), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City), Omar Gonzalez (Pachuca), Matt Hedges (FC Dallas), Tim Ream (Fulham), Jorge Villafaña (Santos Laguna), DeAndre Yedlin (Newcastle), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City).

Midfielders:

Kellyn Acosta (FC Dallas), Paul Arriola (Tijuana), Alejandro Bedoya (Philadelphia Union), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC), Fabian Johnson (Moenchengladbach), Dax McCarty (Chicago Fire), Darlington Nagbe (Portland Timbers), Christian Pulisic (Borussia Dortmund).

Forwards:

Jozy Altidore (Toronto FC), Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders), Jordan Morris (Seattle Sounders), Bobby Wood (Hamburg).

Videos

Boucaud says T&T can pick up points on the road (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECq26wHWKpc)

Keep on Working - Warriors on the Training Pitch in Colorado (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4s1Neb6p1g)

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: andremartinsc on May 29, 2017, 06:24:31 AM
Can't wait.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on May 29, 2017, 06:44:30 AM
Hearing on the radio this morning that MLS released all the US players called up for national team almost 2 weeks ahead of the WCQ on June 8. Our 5 MLS players have not yet been released. The TTFA has written to MLS for equal treatment for our players to be released.

The official release date for players is June 3rd as per normal FIFA rules.

Art of War in full effect.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: sjahrain on May 29, 2017, 07:24:34 AM
Any predictions

My prediction is that we will create history on the 8th...just my feeling
It's time to put some demons to rest...both internally and externally
Once we cop a strict mental attitude...time to stop playing second fiddle
It's time for true T&T Warrior football and no better place than right here
All on board because this train is about to leave this station
All for One...One for All....No If's And's nor But's...all hands on deck..total support
Forward my Warriors
Jah bless
Rastafari
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on May 29, 2017, 11:36:55 AM
So what's the tactical plan for Michael Bradley? He is pretty much the engine room of the USMNT, key on both sides of the ball for them.

I figure if we could shut him down tactically we will be in a good place come June 8th.

Thoughts???
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 29, 2017, 01:54:25 PM
T&T Senior Men win training match in Colorado.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior Men were 1-0 winners over Colorado-based club FC Boulder in a training match at Prentup Field in Colorado on Sunday evening.

A 51st  minute goal by Mexican-based forward Shahdon Winchester separated the teams as head coach Dennis Lawrence used the opportunity to see how the current players in camp responded to a game situation at high altitude following five of days at training ahead of the World Cup Qualifier against the United States on June 8th at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park.

The goal came from a good build up stemming from a pass by Daneil Cyrus to Nathan Lewis on the right side as he cut inside the Boulder defence before playing into the box for Akeem Roach to square for Winchester to slot home from close range.

Boulder campaigns in the Premier Development  League (PDL) and provided a good exercise for Lawrence’s men. In the first half, T&T maintained better possession with Hashim Arcia and Roach both having decent chances on goal. Midfielder Jomal Williams saw a right footed free kick from 20 metres out crash off the cross bar while substitute Jamille Boatswain went close late in the match with an effort which went inches past the upright.

T&T will continue preparations on Tuesday with Russian-based defender Sheldon Bateau and Belgium-based midfielder Khaleem Hyland both joining the camp.

T&T Senior men defeat PDL Team FC Boulder 1-0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Dc28JSJrw)


https://www.youtube.com/v/-3Dc28JSJrw
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on May 29, 2017, 03:13:02 PM
So what's the tactical plan for Michael Bradley? He is pretty much the engine room of the USMNT, key on both sides of the ball for them.

I figure if we could shut him down tactically we will be in a good place come June 8th.

Thoughts???

Bradley was largely ineffective in their away match at our place. We could deem that a bad day at the office or we could view it as a beacon of light. That match had no Dempsey (among others). I not losing sleep over Bradley, but point taken.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on May 29, 2017, 03:29:50 PM
for me our fellaz should be confident facing most of these men week in week out in the MLS. as a fan without deep tactical knowledge it hard to say where the threat will come from as the US just have a bunch of 'good' players right across the board..and pulisic who a cut above. their good players could have a step up game - dempsey, nagbe the whole lot, any of them could step up.  we have a couple very good players - molino & joevin and a few good who could step up maybe - levi? cato? kenwyn? if given the right formation to sneak up on them...but we also have somebody in the back who could step down. [cyrus again?] Is a tough one. I excited and will be there givin 110% support and hope for the best. definitely can't play the match on paper. Go warriors!! You all have it! train hard & work hard to make mistake-free fast movement second nature. you fully capable and with a little luck we could pull it.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on May 29, 2017, 04:44:20 PM
Hearing on the radio this morning that MLS released all the US players called up for national team almost 2 weeks ahead of the WCQ on June 8. Our 5 MLS players have not yet been released. The TTFA has written to MLS for equal treatment for our players to be released.

The official release date for players is June 3rd as per normal FIFA rules.

Art of War in full effect.

I see a two of our international players in Trinidad...congratulations to Hyland...he got married this weekend in Trinidad...joevin in Trinidad as well...was on a boat ride today...I'm not joking...idk about Molino tho...he didn't line up for MU...Sheldon in Colorado already...didn't see skipper on the roster for his game yesterday either!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 29, 2017, 05:29:09 PM
Thought the posts to this article were funny
http://sbisoccer.com/2017/05/tt-names-17-player-squad-for-camp-ahead-of-wcq-against-usmnt
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: gawd on pitch on May 29, 2017, 06:51:48 PM
So what's the tactical plan for Michael Bradley? He is pretty much the engine room of the USMNT, key on both sides of the ball for them.

I figure if we could shut him down tactically we will be in a good place come June 8th.

Thoughts???

Bradley was largely ineffective in their away match at our place. We could deem that a bad day at the office or we could view it as a beacon of light. That match had no Dempsey (among others). I not losing sleep over Bradley, but point taken.

Bradley might not play. Arena don't want him to get a consecutive yellow. Another yellow will suspend Bradley for the game at Azteca. Arena has already hinted at that.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: isaachunt on May 29, 2017, 08:11:05 PM
We go bull them Thursday, man. And bull does feel worse in altitude will no humidity and no grease. 4-2 Warriors.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on May 29, 2017, 08:22:43 PM
Hearing on the radio this morning that MLS released all the US players called up for national team almost 2 weeks ahead of the WCQ on June 8. Our 5 MLS players have not yet been released. The TTFA has written to MLS for equal treatment for our players to be released.

The official release date for players is June 3rd as per normal FIFA rules.

Art of War in full effect.

I see a two of our international players in Trinidad...congratulations to Hyland...he got married this weekend in Trinidad...joevin in Trinidad as well...was on a boat ride today...I'm not joking...idk about Molino tho...he didn't line up for MU...Sheldon in Colorado already...didn't see skipper on the roster for his game yesterday either!

Both Hyland and Bateau with the team in Colorado now. Joevin wasn't in trini, but he was on a boat ride somewhere in the states, his Caribbean club mates were with him. Kenwyne get his usual corbeaux sweat yesterday. Molino in Minnesota playing Xbox as usual, he was reported sick over the weekend, dunno his status currently.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Mose on May 30, 2017, 01:42:05 AM
T&T Senior Men win training match in Colorado.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior Men were 1-0 winners over Colorado-based club FC Boulder in a training match at Prentup Field in Colorado on Sunday evening.

...

Hold on dey, ah thought we was supposed to be playing the Colorado Rapids?  ???
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Controversial on May 30, 2017, 01:53:31 AM
This is a joke prep...

What was Tallest hoping to achieve with such weak opposition
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on May 30, 2017, 02:48:37 AM
This is a joke prep...

What was Tallest hoping to achieve with such weak opposition

Mexico played Croatia lossed 2-1, and USA played Venezuela, idk the result of that game though.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Thomo on May 30, 2017, 06:56:47 AM
Our biggest concern should be the gross disadvantage that we've been put at by the collusion of the MLS and the US Federation by not releasing our players early for the game like our American counterparts.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on May 30, 2017, 09:29:46 AM
This is a joke prep...

What was Tallest hoping to achieve with such weak opposition

Mexico played Croatia lossed 2-1, and USA played Venezuela, idk the result of that game though.

Unless there was more than one match scheduled between the teams, the US hosts Venezuela on June 3.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: E-man on May 30, 2017, 10:47:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/vskTAwdqz24
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: lefty on May 30, 2017, 10:58:58 AM
good interplay but dey not ruthless in front of goal at all...sometimes ah man jus need to to shoot
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on May 30, 2017, 11:25:23 AM
T&T Senior Men win training match in Colorado.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior Men were 1-0 winners over Colorado-based club FC Boulder in a training match at Prentup Field in Colorado on Sunday evening.

...

Hold on dey, ah thought we was supposed to be playing the Colorado Rapids?  ???

a good little extra scrimmage for the boys. Hopefully they could line up the USL team - colorado switchbacks - who in full season before the pro league boys go home.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on May 30, 2017, 01:53:42 PM
T&T Senior Men win training match in Colorado.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior Men were 1-0 winners over Colorado-based club FC Boulder in a training match at Prentup Field in Colorado on Sunday evening.

...

Hold on dey, ah thought we was supposed to be playing the Colorado Rapids?  ???

a good little extra scrimmage for the boys. Hopefully they could line up the USL team - colorado switchbacks - who in full season before the pro league boys go home.

Dat was a showcase for players (really the players "agent") to show their value to a USL team

The T&T Mens National team is now the personal property of one "agent" to showcase his players for sale.

The national team prep for a WCQ is incidental
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on May 30, 2017, 08:53:34 PM
T&T Senior Men win training match in Colorado.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior Men were 1-0 winners over Colorado-based club FC Boulder in a training match at Prentup Field in Colorado on Sunday evening.

...

Hold on dey, ah thought we was supposed to be playing the Colorado Rapids?  ???

a good little extra scrimmage for the boys. Hopefully they could line up the USL team - colorado switchbacks - who in full season before the pro league boys go home.

Dat was a showcase for players (really the players "agent") to show their value to a USL team

The T&T Mens National team is now the personal property of one "agent" to showcase his players for sale.

The national team prep for a WCQ is incidental

sometimes we does have to watch the timing of the criticism so we don't come across as complaining all the time.  but this time, that FC Boulder team is one level below USL level so probably not directly the most efficient way to go about sales to the USL. Also from the 17-man squad listed, only 3 look like "the agent property"....not saying that what you saying can't be the case, but it mightn't be so this time.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: coache on May 30, 2017, 10:13:57 PM
I didn't know USL teams had money to pay players..anyway a warmup against some College kids.. I wonder
what positives could be taken away from that experience?

I am not convinced.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Controversial on May 31, 2017, 12:32:57 AM
Like I said, Tallest towing the line, qualifying for the wc is not key, the dictator has completed his sabotage

Allyuh buying cat in bag with this nonsense.. I don't even know who the hell this team is that we played tbh

Our opponents playing nations and we playing a juco team from the mountains
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: andre samuel on May 31, 2017, 01:15:05 AM
Definitely cant please Trinis, lol.   

Contro, do yourself and the rest of this website a favor..............give TT football a rest and recharge and comeback again for the next Gold Cup campaign or 2022 WCQs.

The level of doom and gloom you heaping on this side continues to soar and soar. 

Meanwhile, i will be in Denver supporting the warriors!!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sando on May 31, 2017, 01:53:17 AM
T&T Senior Men win training match in Colorado.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior Men were 1-0 winners over Colorado-based club FC Boulder in a training match at Prentup Field in Colorado on Sunday evening.

A 51st  minute goal by Mexican-based forward Shahdon Winchester separated the teams as head coach Dennis Lawrence used the opportunity to see how the current players in camp responded to a game situation at high altitude following five of days at training ahead of the World Cup Qualifier against the United States on June 8th at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park.

The goal came from a good build up stemming from a pass by Daneil Cyrus to Nathan Lewis on the right side as he cut inside the Boulder defence before playing into the box for Akeem Roach to square for Winchester to slot home from close range.

Boulder campaigns in the Premier Development  League (PDL) and provided a good exercise for Lawrence’s men. In the first half, T&T maintained better possession with Hashim Arcia and Roach both having decent chances on goal. Midfielder Jomal Williams saw a right footed free kick from 20 metres out crash off the cross bar while substitute Jamille Boatswain went close late in the match with an effort which went inches past the upright.

T&T will continue preparations on Tuesday with Russian-based defender Sheldon Bateau and Belgium-based midfielder Khaleem Hyland both joining the camp.

T&T Senior men defeat PDL Team FC Boulder 1-0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Dc28JSJrw)https://www.youtube.com/v/-3Dc28JSJrw

So I guess the warm up with Colorado Rapids never happened.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sando on May 31, 2017, 05:33:02 AM
Geoff Cameron, Fabian Johnson and John Brooks is solid defenders, Cameron will man mark Kenwyne and knowns him very well from Stoke City.

Nagbe, Pulisic, Wood and Altidore have lots of pace.

Bradley and Beasley little old, so they might be easy to contain.

Yedlin is fast but his final play is poor.

Clint Dempsey is very good, but he can be temperamental, we could bait him so he can be caution early in the game.

Tim Howard is still very good.

We have a good fight in our hands.

T&T must not overplay the ball especially in defence.

USA don't know much about Nathan Lewis, Jomal Williams, Hashim Arcia, Akeem Roach and Jamille Boatswain, so they can be of some use.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on May 31, 2017, 06:01:49 AM
Timothy Chandler has withdrawn from the United States national team roster with a hamstring injury. No replacement was named to the squad.

(http://images.performgroup.com/di/library/GOAL/98/eb/gfx-projected-usa-xi-vs-trinidad-05302017_125904alzxz0t1pddp70ij5h2r.png?t=1486849684)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Trini _2026 on May 31, 2017, 07:41:46 AM
Geoff Cameron, Fabian Johnson and John Brooks is solid defenders, Cameron will man mark Kenwyne and knowns him very well from Stoke City.

Nagbe, Pulisic, Wood and Altidore have lots of pace.

Bradley and Beasley little old, so they might be easy to contain.

Yedlin is fast but his final play is poor.

Clint Dempsey is very good, but he can be temperamental, we could bait him so he can be caution early in the game.

Tim Howard is still very good.

We have a good fight in our hands.

T&T must not overplay the ball especially in defence.

USA don't know much about Nathan Lewis, Jomal Williams, Hashim Arcia, Akeem Roach and Jamille Boatswain, so they can be of some use.



except for Jamal Williams   nothing much to fear   with the rest
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on May 31, 2017, 01:42:15 PM
Geoff Cameron, Fabian Johnson and John Brooks is solid defenders, Cameron will man mark Kenwyne and knowns him very well from Stoke City.

Nagbe, Pulisic, Wood and Altidore have lots of pace.

Bradley and Beasley little old, so they might be easy to contain.

Yedlin is fast but his final play is poor.

Clint Dempsey is very good, but he can be temperamental, we could bait him so he can be caution early in the game.

Tim Howard is still very good.

We have a good fight in our hands.

T&T must not overplay the ball especially in defence.

USA don't know much about Nathan Lewis, Jomal Williams, Hashim Arcia, Akeem Roach and Jamille Boatswain, so they can be of some use.



except for Jamal Williams   nothing much to fear   with the rest

I find Lewis have something about him, raw but has dribbling ability at speed, just need better decision making on the final pass.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on May 31, 2017, 02:36:34 PM
Senior Men enter final week of build up to WCQ with USA in Colorado.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s team continued their build up towards next Thursday’s World Cup qualifier against the United States with two more training sessions in the morning period of Tuesday and Wednesday at Prentup Field in Colorado as the group of players entered the final week of preparations under the watchful eyes of head coach Dennis Lawrence and his backroom staff.

Lawrence’s pool increased with the arrival of European-based duo Khaleem Hyland and Sheldon Bateau while Colorado Rapids defender Mekeil Williams also joined the camp to begin training with the squad. Lawrence is expected to name his final squad on the weekend for the encounter at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park.

Williams, based in Colorado is at home as his club plays their home matches at the venue for Thursday’s qualifier and he was in high spirits upon joining the camp on Tuesday.

“Joining the camp was a good feeling for me. I haven’t see the boys in a while and having them come to Colorado where I am based was a joy and pleasure for me and I am enjoying it so far. When they showed up at the game last week was a great feeling, a special moment for me. I felt that joy and passion from the moment I saw them in the stands and it was an experience I would remember,” Williams told TTFA Media.

About the conditions in Colorado, he continued: “Playing at altitude is difficult but you have to push through with it with a few sessions and then you are ready for it. I think we will be ready for the game come June 8th. I know the boys here have been putting in the work and when the other players come into camp everyone will be putting in the effort to get there by game time.

“Joining in the sessions from today was a joy for me. That is my comfort zone… being with my boys in the national team in training and being around the coaching staff and preparing for matches is something I always look forward to,” added the former W Connection defender.

Williams’ teammate on the Colorado team is US goalkeeper Tim Howard and both men have already placed a bet on the match. Bruce Arena confirmed to the media on Monday that Howard remains his number one choice.

“We actually made a bet on the game a couple days ago. If we win the game I get to keep my place in the dressing room and if they lose he has to sit wit the rookies for the rest of the season,” Williams added with a bit of laughter.

Meantime,  Eintracht Frankfurt defender Timmy Chandler has withdrawn from the U.S. national team ahead of two World Cup qualifiers because of a hamstring injury. On Sunday, he was among 27 players named to the squad, which gathered in the Denver area for preparations on Monday.No replacement was named right away, and it’s unclear whether Arena will fill the slot before Saturday’s friendly against Venezuela in Utah.

On the goalkeeper choice, Arena said “As of now it’s Tim Howard,” Arena said Monday. “He had two good games (in March) and we’ll have to see how these guys look over the next couple of weeks. We have good goalkeepers here so that’s the least of my worries.”

Arena also spoke about USA’s upcoming game against Venezuela, saying:  “It’s part of our preparation for the games against Trinidad & Tobago and Mexico, and we get to play a South American opponent with some very good players. They’re bringing in a number of their first team players, so it should be a real plus. We get a little bit of a taste of playing a game in altitude, and no question about it, it’s low altitude in comparison to Denver and Mexico City, but it’s a starting point.”

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on May 31, 2017, 04:42:16 PM
Senior Men enter final week of build up to WCQ with USA in Colorado.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s team continued their build up towards next Thursday’s World Cup qualifier against the United States with two more training sessions in the morning period of Tuesday and Wednesday at Prentup Field in Colorado as the group of players entered the final week of preparations under the watchful eyes of head coach Dennis Lawrence and his backroom staff.

Lawrence’s pool increased with the arrival of European-based duo Khaleem Hyland and Sheldon Bateau while Colorado Rapids defender Mekeil Williams also joined the camp to begin training with the squad. Lawrence is expected to name his final squad on the weekend for the encounter at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park.

Williams, based in Colorado is at home as his club plays their home matches at the venue for Thursday’s qualifier and he was in high spirits upon joining the camp on Tuesday.

“Joining the camp was a good feeling for me. I haven’t see the boys in a while and having them come to Colorado where I am based was a joy and pleasure for me and I am enjoying it so far. When they showed up at the game last week was a great feeling, a special moment for me. I felt that joy and passion from the moment I saw them in the stands and it was an experience I would remember,” Williams told TTFA Media.

About the conditions in Colorado, he continued: “Playing at altitude is difficult but you have to push through with it with a few sessions and then you are ready for it. I think we will be ready for the game come June 8th. I know the boys here have been putting in the work and when the other players come into camp everyone will be putting in the effort to get there by game time.

“Joining in the sessions from today was a joy for me. That is my comfort zone… being with my boys in the national team in training and being around the coaching staff and preparing for matches is something I always look forward to,” added the former W Connection defender.

Williams’ teammate on the Colorado team is US goalkeeper Tim Howard and both men have already placed a bet on the match. Bruce Arena confirmed to the media on Monday that Howard remains his number one choice.

“We actually made a bet on the game a couple days ago. If we win the game I get to keep my place in the dressing room and if they lose he has to sit wit the rookies for the rest of the season,” Williams added with a bit of laughter.

Meantime,  Eintracht Frankfurt defender Timmy Chandler has withdrawn from the U.S. national team ahead of two World Cup qualifiers because of a hamstring injury. On Sunday, he was among 27 players named to the squad, which gathered in the Denver area for preparations on Monday.No replacement was named right away, and it’s unclear whether Arena will fill the slot before Saturday’s friendly against Venezuela in Utah.

On the goalkeeper choice, Arena said “As of now it’s Tim Howard,” Arena said Monday. “He had two good games (in March) and we’ll have to see how these guys look over the next couple of weeks. We have good goalkeepers here so that’s the least of my worries.”

Arena also spoke about USA’s upcoming game against Venezuela, saying:  “It’s part of our preparation for the games against Trinidad & Tobago and Mexico, and we get to play a South American opponent with some very good players. They’re bringing in a number of their first team players, so it should be a real plus. We get a little bit of a taste of playing a game in altitude, and no question about it, it’s low altitude in comparison to Denver and Mexico City, but it’s a starting point.”



So essentially Lawrence will hv 3 days with the full compliment of players before a crucial game...this not making any sense...and everybody have boss friendlies but we playing a PDL team...better than that TTFA...all yuh on shittt. Keeping my fingers crossed and look forward to the game with optimism and hope!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on May 31, 2017, 05:26:18 PM
Has the TTFA made public the correspondence it reportedly sent in protest to MLS, US Soccer, CONCACAF and FIFA regarding the pre-window release of American players to the US national team?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on June 01, 2017, 04:02:37 AM
Wolfsburg sign John Brooks from Hertha with record fee for U.S. player
By Stephan Uersfeld


Wolfsburg have completed the signing of U.S. international defender John Brooks from Hertha Berlin for a reported €20 million ($22.4m) -- a record fee for an American player.

The reported transfer fee doubles the previous highest reported fee for an American -- the €10m AZ Alkmaar received for Jozy Altidore from Sunderland in 2013.

Brooks, who was born in Berlin and has never played for another club, had been under contract at Hertha until 2019, but sporting director Michael Preetz said a day earlier that the center-back had requested a transfer. Brooks signed a five-year deal at Wolfsburg.

"It wasn't an easy decision to leave my hometown, but after the talks with [sporting director] Olaf Rebbe and [coach] Andries Jonker I wanted to join Wolfsburg because both soon convinced me of their plans for VfL," Brooks told his new club's official website. "I want to contribute my share so that Wolfsburg live up to their earlier success."

Brooks made 90 Bundesliga appearances for Hertha, who reportedly turned down a €10m bid from Premier League club Watford for the 24-year-old last summer.

Last season, however, his performances attracted some criticism, with local paper Berliner Zeitung naming him one of the "losers" of the campaign.

Hertha sporting director Michael Preetz said: "We don't like it that we have to let go of our homegrown talent but we have found a solution which is also for the good of Hertha BSC.

"We wish John all the best and want to thank him for his efforts in the jersey with the flag on the chest."

Wolfsburg, having avoided relegation in the playoffs against Eintracht Braunschweig, are aiming to boost their defense for next season.

"We are delighted to have signed John Anthony Brooks," sporting director Rebbe said. "He is a highly talented and ambitious defender who will reinforce our defence. At 24, he is already very experienced."

Brooks has won 30 caps for the U.S. team and scored at the 2014 World Cup. He was a first-choice center-back under former head coach Jurgen Klinsmann and also started a World Cup qualifier in March under new boss Bruce Arena.

He's in the current squad that will face Venezuela in a friendly on Saturday, ahead of qualifiers against Trinidad and Tobago and Mexico.

Most expensive reported transfers of U.S. players in Euros
Player - € - Season - From - To
John Brooks - 20m - 17-18 - Hertha Berlin - Wolfsburg
Jozy Altidore - 10m - 13-14 - AZ Alkmaar - Sunderland
Clint Dempsey - 7.5m - 12-13 - Fulham - Tottenham
Michael Bradley - 7.4m - 13-14 - Roma - Toronto FC
Clint Dempsey - 6.8m - 13-14 - Tottenham - Seattle Sounders
Claudio Reyna - 6.7m - 01-02 - Rangers - Sunderland
Jozy Altidore - 6.5m - 08-09 - N.Y. Red Bulls - Villarreal
DeAndre Yedlin - 5.9m - 6-17 - Tottenham - Newcastle
Matt Miazga - 4.6m - 15-16 - N.Y. Red Bulls - Chelsea
Tim Howard - 4.2m - 07-08 - Man United - Everton

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sam on June 01, 2017, 05:51:40 AM
USA and Bruce Arena know how to beat T&T because they cut the pipelines and force T&T to make mistakes and also to only rely on long balls, Lawrence have to really be smart.

We need sensible players on de field and a solid back 4, yes Edwards good, but against USA it might be hard for him because he pace, we need young blood, runners.

Boucaud must play because he very compose, more than Hyland.

If we go to play for a draw we might as well pack we f00cking bag now, not saying we should just open up we kakahole and get expose, but we have to always have a winning mentality.

Mekeil is a decent player, but we have to watch him because he does make plenty mistakes, but I know he go play because this is a home match for he.

Jan
Mekeil
Bateau
Cyrus
Gonzales
Joevin
Boucaud
George
Cato
Molino
Kenwyne


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 01, 2017, 06:04:03 AM
USA and Bruce Arena know how to beat T&T because they cut the pipelines and force T&T to make mistakes and also to only rely on long balls, Lawrence have to really be smart.

We need sensible players on de field and a solid back 4, yes Edwards good, but against USA it might be hard for him because he pace, we need young blood, runners.

Boucaud must play because he very compose, more than Hyland.

If we go to play for a draw we might as well pack we f00cking bag now, not saying we should just open up we kakahole and get expose, but we have to always have a winning mentality.

Mekeil is a decent player, but we have to watch him because he does make plenty mistakes, but I know he go play because this is a home match for he.

Jan
Mekeil
Bateau
Cyrus
Gonzales
Joevin
Boucaud
George
Cato
Molino
Kenwyne




Big big game. I think this game will be the biggest game as of yet. I really hope we rise to the occasion. This is the do or die game.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: madness on June 01, 2017, 08:24:52 AM
We need to believe that we can beat the US team.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 01, 2017, 09:35:42 AM
Has the TTFA made public the correspondence it reportedly sent in protest to MLS, US Soccer, CONCACAF and FIFA regarding the pre-window release of American players to the US national team?

Does the Pro League similarly facilitate T&T's senior men's national team when their season is in full swing?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 01, 2017, 11:38:51 AM
Has the TTFA made public the correspondence it reportedly sent in protest to MLS, US Soccer, CONCACAF and FIFA regarding the pre-window release of American players to the US national team?

Does the Pro League similarly facilitate T&T's senior men's national team when their season is in full swing?

For non-FIFA windows, I'm told there is an (informal) agreement among the clubs to make players available for national team duty. 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sam on June 01, 2017, 12:20:18 PM
FIFA window !!!

And Honduras played El Salvador and Mexico played Croatia and today Mexico playing Republic of Ireland and Saturday USA playing Venezuela while we playing FC Boulder.

Even St Kitts playing game vs Armenia next Sunday.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 01, 2017, 01:47:55 PM
FIFA window !!!

And Honduras played El Salvador and Mexico played Croatia and today Mexico playing Republic of Ireland and Saturday USA playing Venezuela while we playing FC Boulder.

Even St Kitts playing game vs Armenia next Sunday.



Same shit I saying....what real wrong with cokey eye DJW dred...fail to prepare=prepare to fail......what a joke of an administration
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 01, 2017, 02:11:45 PM
Has the TTFA made public the correspondence it reportedly sent in protest to MLS, US Soccer, CONCACAF and FIFA regarding the pre-window release of American players to the US national team?

Does the Pro League similarly facilitate T&T's senior men's national team when their season is in full swing?

For non-FIFA windows, I'm told there is an (informal) agreement among the clubs to make players available for national team duty. 

That informal agreement doh mean anything.  I know players have been refused to attend national team training sessions for upcoming international matches for reasons ranging from if the foreign club doh have to release them, iwe not releasing them either....to players have a trial arranged and the trial more important than the national team.

MLS does NOT have to release any international players outside of the FIFA window.  MLS is a US league and the fact that they have come to an accommodation and agreement with with US national team is good for the US.  Perhaps the US national team provides insurance policies etc for players that miss games for their MLS clubs as a condition of release

Does/ can/ would the TTFA provide similar?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 01, 2017, 04:43:23 PM
In the words of the great Contro.. SABOTAGE.. The fact that we getting a sweat against a JUCO team while our opponents are playing much better opposition, makes me question the true motives of the TTFA. As much as I want to back up meh team, the sad reality is that we not receiving the right resources to have a realistic chance of qualifying.

How the US get a sweat vs Venezuela? 7 miles off the coast.  How far Venezuela is to US.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: maxg on June 01, 2017, 05:47:18 PM
maybe US give them a shipload of food, flight, match fees and accommodations, and a truck load of guns to dump in TT..Yuh doh know.. we often doh pay we own players, that we know  :devil:  :D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Big Magician on June 01, 2017, 06:47:28 PM
not defending the TTFA..but did Dennis ask for any full international ??...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Big Magician on June 01, 2017, 06:47:44 PM
Hasim Arcia does confuse me
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 01, 2017, 07:07:33 PM
In the words of the great Contro.. SABOTAGE.. The fact that we getting a sweat against a JUCO team while our opponents are playing much better opposition, makes me question the true motives of the TTFA. As much as I want to back up meh team, the sad reality is that we not receiving the right resources to have a realistic chance of qualifying.

How the US get a sweat vs Venezuela? 7 miles off the coast.  How far Venezuela is to US.

Yuh think DJW don't know Venezia right there and things right with them...offcourse...he just to damn greedy and stink with himself. I mean come now...this is a World Cup campaign...of these guys get any type of result from the US, they really deserve super super credit...because they lack serious preparation and support!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 01, 2017, 07:07:52 PM
*venezuela
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 01, 2017, 07:17:53 PM
not defending the TTFA..but did Dennis ask for any full international ??...

I go tell yuh something big mag, I respect Tallest, but if he didn't ask for any international, he shouldn't be coaching the team. Logically speaking, we get a sweat with Grenada weeks ago, it will be hard to believe that he was happy with that as the preparation for the games. .

Look at it this way too, Tallest request a match against Grenada for the 2nd team.. and no request for an international friendly for the 1st team before a world cup qualifier? I think the TTFA derailed it..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 01, 2017, 07:27:07 PM
I have a feeling that if we lose both games, there will be some kind of bacchanal in the TTFA.. The truth will come out regarding who request games and who made the Internationals difficult to get.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 01, 2017, 11:03:00 PM
There are brokers that act on behalf of football federations that organize international friendlies.  Those friendlies are normally organized LONG IN ADVANCE.

National Teams are always on the lookout for matches and want to participate in as many as possible.

If our National team does not play international friendlies against recognized opposition on any sort of regular basis , it's down to greed (federation demanding astronomical "rights fees" to play these matches), sheer incompetence, lack of planning, and lack of a vision and will.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sam on June 02, 2017, 06:00:45 AM
T&T demanding more money for games and they eh worth it, that is why teams like Jamaica will always be playing international games, look they playing Peru soon.

And Latapy and Lawrence will always be liked by de TTFA because they dont like playing international matches, they prefer camps.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Trini _2026 on June 02, 2017, 07:34:32 AM
Hasim Arcia does confuse me

With his skill ??
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 02, 2017, 08:20:45 AM
If we can't assemble our full strength team far enough in advance then friendlies are a kind of moot point in my opinion. Does it put us at a disadvantage? Yes. Other teams with bigger talent pools can have better offerings and thus be better prepared. We literally have no more than 15-18 1st team players with half playing in North America which is in active season during this time

WC Qualifying is the key, more than 70% of the players who play in friendlies don't feature on WCQ matchday. All FIFA match windows are allocated to the actual WCQ schedule so there is literally no room when you actually get your first team together. You have to play 2 games in 8 days and that includes training, travel and rest.

We just have to deal with what we have and prepare as best we can.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 02, 2017, 10:56:54 AM
If we can't assemble our full strength team far enough in advance then friendlies are a kind of moot point in my opinion. Does it put us at a disadvantage? Yes. Other teams with bigger talent pools can have better offerings and thus be better prepared. We literally have no more than 15-18 1st team players with half playing in North America which is in active season during this time


With 1/4 of T&T's population, how does Iceland do it?

How does Jamaica manage to do it year after year?  And they not even in WCQ and have way more players playing in MLS than we do



Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 02, 2017, 11:38:47 AM
If we can't assemble our full strength team far enough in advance then friendlies are a kind of moot point in my opinion. Does it put us at a disadvantage? Yes. Other teams with bigger talent pools can have better offerings and thus be better prepared. We literally have no more than 15-18 1st team players with half playing in North America which is in active season during this time


With 1/4 of T&T's population, how does Iceland do it?

How does Jamaica manage to do it year after year?  And they not even in WCQ and have way more players playing in MLS than we do


Confused by your questions, I am talking about arranging of friendlies outside of FIFA windows with full strength teams.

Iceland's top players who would form part of the core of their national team plays within the normal european football calendar season so those players will be available to play friendlies and WCQs which ever is on their schedule. If they use players from their domestic league which is currently underway, then its all within their authority to extract those players like US is doing with its MLS players to play international games.

Jamaica's friendlies are within the FIFA window so they can  call up a full strength team to play friendlies which make sense.

Most teams participating in friendlies 'this week' which is outside of the FIFA window 'next week' are made of players whose domestic season is over, unless they involved in UCL final this Saturday.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 02, 2017, 12:54:38 PM
If we can't assemble our full strength team far enough in advance then friendlies are a kind of moot point in my opinion. Does it put us at a disadvantage? Yes. Other teams with bigger talent pools can have better offerings and thus be better prepared. We literally have no more than 15-18 1st team players with half playing in North America which is in active season during this time


With 1/4 of T&T's population, how does Iceland do it?

How does Jamaica manage to do it year after year?  And they not even in WCQ and have way more players playing in MLS than we do


Confused by your questions, I am talking about arranging of friendlies outside of FIFA windows with full strength teams.

Iceland's top players who would form part of the core of their national team plays within the normal european football calendar season so those players will be available to play friendlies and WCQs which ever is on their schedule. If they use players from their domestic league which is currently underway, then its all within their authority to extract those players like US is doing with its MLS players to play international games.

Jamaica's friendlies are within the FIFA window so they can  call up a full strength team to play friendlies which make sense.

Most teams participating in friendlies 'this week' which is outside of the FIFA window 'next week' are made of players whose domestic season is over, unless they involved in UCL final this Saturday.



So is only NOW we cyah get friendlies?  FIFA window or not?

Honduras played El Salvador last week

Mexico played Croatia last week while their Liga MX was still going

Look who they playin.  Reputable teams.....

You think Mexico playing Boulder FC as prep for any world cup qualifier?

Come nah man

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: E-man on June 02, 2017, 02:49:11 PM
Even Cuba is in the Toulon tournament getting some nice games and they're not in the hex


not defending the TTFA..but did Dennis ask for any full international ??...

I go tell yuh something big mag, I respect Tallest, but if he didn't ask for any international, he shouldn't be coaching the team. Logically speaking, we get a sweat with Grenada weeks ago, it will be hard to believe that he was happy with that as the preparation for the games. .

Look at it this way too, Tallest request a match against Grenada for the 2nd team.. and no request for an international friendly for the 1st team before a world cup qualifier? I think the TTFA derailed it..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 02, 2017, 03:05:24 PM
If we can't assemble our full strength team far enough in advance then friendlies are a kind of moot point in my opinion. Does it put us at a disadvantage? Yes. Other teams with bigger talent pools can have better offerings and thus be better prepared. We literally have no more than 15-18 1st team players with half playing in North America which is in active season during this time


With 1/4 of T&T's population, how does Iceland do it?

How does Jamaica manage to do it year after year?  And they not even in WCQ and have way more players playing in MLS than we do


Confused by your questions, I am talking about arranging of friendlies outside of FIFA windows with full strength teams.

Iceland's top players who would form part of the core of their national team plays within the normal european football calendar season so those players will be available to play friendlies and WCQs which ever is on their schedule. If they use players from their domestic league which is currently underway, then its all within their authority to extract those players like US is doing with its MLS players to play international games.

Jamaica's friendlies are within the FIFA window so they can  call up a full strength team to play friendlies which make sense.

Most teams participating in friendlies 'this week' which is outside of the FIFA window 'next week' are made of players whose domestic season is over, unless they involved in UCL final this Saturday.



So is only NOW we cyah get friendlies?  FIFA window or not?

Honduras played El Salvador last week

Mexico played Croatia last week while their Liga MX was still going

Look who they playin.  Reputable teams.....

You think Mexico playing Boulder FC as prep for any world cup qualifier?

Come nah man


Again, my point is, it matters little about friendlies if our first team is not playing in those games.

I never made a point about the quality of the teams we do happen to get friendlies against. As far as i am concerned, we had no friendlies for the players that matter come June 8 and 13.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: frico on June 03, 2017, 10:18:57 AM
If by some miracle we hold out for nil, nil up regulation time, and stick one on them in added on time...we go win.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 03, 2017, 08:51:07 PM
“We’ve arranged two closed-door games. We will play Colorado Rapids in two matches and its suits us because they are a home team there. It will be a good competitive test for us."
When is the next game against the Rapids Boulder FC?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on June 03, 2017, 10:14:11 PM
US look beatable against venezuela just now. Ven coulda be 3-0 in the 1st half. But Pulisic again. Him or Altidore good for 1 I feel. But Kenwyn would match up well against their defense, if we get the numbers forward. I call an exciting 3-2 for T&T.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Controversial on June 04, 2017, 03:34:42 AM
I heard greed, does bribes constitute that as well...

The dictator arranged big friendlies with Hart at the helm with a makeshift local team, to intentionally foster negative results in efforts to drum up support to get Hart fired, mind you with a 2nd string team, also using those friendlies to get funds from the Chinese and make money on tv rights of the matches, while executing his plan to sabotage Hart and the team

Tallest gets Grenada which I expected because any bigger teams would expose Tallest lack of experience... you can't have that because it's counter to your plan to sabotage the team, I think people are familiar with the word complicit, you can insert that anywhere the dictator is mentioned, Tallest is towing the line

Could you imagine the uproar locally if Hart played a local juco team? The assumptions that would have been made..

The only way we are qualifying is if that has been predetermined and the coach and team are going through the paces..

However, I doubt that, too much money to be made on bets for corrupt personnel to pass up
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Controversial on June 04, 2017, 03:37:26 AM
If we can't assemble our full strength team far enough in advance then friendlies are a kind of moot point in my opinion. Does it put us at a disadvantage? Yes. Other teams with bigger talent pools can have better offerings and thus be better prepared. We literally have no more than 15-18 1st team players with half playing in North America which is in active season during this time


With 1/4 of T&T's population, how does Iceland do it?

How does Jamaica manage to do it year after year?  And they not even in WCQ and have way more players playing in MLS than we do


Confused by your questions, I am talking about arranging of friendlies outside of FIFA windows with full strength teams.

Iceland's top players who would form part of the core of their national team plays within the normal european football calendar season so those players will be available to play friendlies and WCQs which ever is on their schedule. If they use players from their domestic league which is currently underway, then its all within their authority to extract those players like US is doing with its MLS players to play international games.

Jamaica's friendlies are within the FIFA window so they can  call up a full strength team to play friendlies which make sense.

Most teams participating in friendlies 'this week' which is outside of the FIFA window 'next week' are made of players whose domestic season is over, unless they involved in UCL final this Saturday.



TT is intentionally kept down, everyone knows our talent, giving us friendlies and the best prep would mean top 3 status in concacaf

House negroes don't want that, they can't  make money that way

Similarly if crime was ultra low, that would mean no burglar proofing, no robust security industry and other industries that thrive off of a violent society

Or the cure to cancer and diabetes, less hospitals, pharma would be compromised and how would doctors make all that money with a healthy society

The plight of TT football is another mans success
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Controversial on June 04, 2017, 04:02:15 AM
US look beatable against venezuela just now. Ven coulda be 3-0 in the 1st half. But Pulisic again. Him or Altidore good for 1 I feel. But Kenwyn would match up well against their defense, if we get the numbers forward. I call an exciting 3-2 for T&T.

The US may be beatable but they know our players extremely well, they play in the US and our captain has been analyzed and figured out

It's easy to beat a team if you know their players inside out and plus you're paying a lot of them

My mantra is, never play for opposing Nations club teams, iwho are qualifying in your region for the wc because it can backfire on you..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Fyzoman on June 04, 2017, 09:30:11 AM
Oh how I wish the coach could say "eff everybody" and just unleash Levi Garcia on the US, regardless of how he performing in practice!

He might still have a little sharpness left after spending a whole season playing in that 3rd Division league in Vietnam. Oh and same goes for we worst defender, Bateau.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on June 04, 2017, 10:27:47 AM
Senior Men enter final week of build up to WCQ with USA in Colorado.
TTFA Media.


Lawrence’s pool increased with the arrival of European-based duo Khaleem Hyland and Sheldon Bateau while Colorado Rapids defender Mekeil Williams also joined the camp to begin training with the squad. Lawrence is expected to name his final squad on the weekend for the encounter at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park.
...


any news on this?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on June 04, 2017, 10:53:34 AM
watching armenia puttin a wallop on St Kitts/Nevis. If most of their national players from the league Peltier might really deserve a call up.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on June 04, 2017, 11:32:53 AM
Lawrence names 24-man Roster to face USA in WCQ on Thursday.
TTFA Media.


Head Coach Dennis Lawrence today announced a 24-man Roster ahead of Thursday’s 2018 CONCACAF World Cup Qualifier against the United States at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park in Denver.

Lawrence and his coaching staff used the past days dating back to May 24th to assess players during a residential training camp before finalising the squad for the encounter.

The squad is as follows –  Jan-Michael Williams, Marvin Phillip, Adrian Foncette, Carlos Edwards, Aubrey David, Alvin Jones, Radanfah Abu Bakr, Mekeil Williams, Triston Hodge, Sheldon Bateau, Daneil Cyrus, Curtis Gonzales, Joevin Jones, Andre Boucaud, Kevan George, Hashim Arcia, Khaleem Hyland, Leston Paul, Kevin Molino, Hughtun Hector, Nathan Lewis, Shahdon Winchester, Jamille Boatswain and Kenwyne Jones.

The players who have returned home, all due to injuries, are Willis Plaza, Jomal Williams and Akeem Roach.

Dutch-based winger Levi Garcia was not considered for selection due to a hamstring injury while US-based player Cordell Cato was released  due to disciplinary reasons.

Lawrence said he was anticipating the upcoming days of preparations with his full compliment of players ahead of Thurday’s fixture.

“We arrived here on May 23rd to begin a training camp with the objective of getting acclimatised with the players available to us and I am able to say that we were able to get in some proper training which allowed me and the coaching staff to get a good impression of how the players would react under the  conditions here. The players have responded positively with a good attitude and the spirit in the camp has been good with everyone having a proper understanding as to why we are here.

“Now we are under a week away from the match and we should have the full squad together from later this evening and tomorrow we will begin the final leg of preparations. We are heading into it in a positive frame of mind and ready to focus all our energies into ensuring we prepare as best as possible for what is ahead of us,” Lawrence added.

T&T Roster

Goalkeepers:

Jan-Michael Williams (North East Stars), Marvin Phillip (Point Fortin Civic Centre FC), Adrian Foncette (Police FC).

Defenders:

Carlos Edwards (Central FC), Aubrey David (PS Kemi Kings—FIN), Alvin Jones (W Connection), Radanfah Abu Bakr (FK Sūduva Marijampolė—LTU), Mekeil Williams (Colorado Rapids—USA), Triston Hodge (W Connection), Sheldon Bateau (Krylia Sovetov Samara—RUS), Daneil Cyrus (Unattached), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force).

Midfielders:

Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders FC—USA), Andre Boucaud (Dagenham & Redbridge—ENG), Kevan George (Jacksonville Armada—USA), Hashim Arcia (Defence Force), Khaleem Hyland (KVC Westerlo—BEL), Leston Paul (North East Stars), Kevin Molino (Minnesota United FC—USA), Hughtun Hector (W Connection), Nathan Lewis (San Juan Jabloteh).

Forwards:

Shahdon Winchester (Murcielagos FC—MEX), Jamille Boatswain (Defence Force), Kenwyne Jones (Atlanta United—USA).

RELATED NEWS

Cato axed for indiscipline, Levi out with injury: Lawrence names team to face USA, C/Rica.
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868).


The Trinidad and Tobago National Senior Team will go into crucial 2018 World Cup qualifying away fixtures against the United States and Costa Rica with just two recognised wingers, after coach Dennis Lawrence axed San Jose Earthquakes flanker Cordell Cato for indiscipline and released Levi Garcia, Jomal Williams and Akeem Roach due to injury.

India-based forward Willis Plaza also left the team camp in Colorado due to an injury, which left the Soca Warriors with a 24-man squad of nine defenders, five holding midfielders and three forwards but just four attacking midfielders.

Lawrence, like his predecessor Stephen Hart, has generally favoured a 4-2-3-1 formation with three attacking midfielders behind a lone striker.

On this occasion, he has only Seattle Sounders’ Joevin Jones and San Juan Jabloteh’s Nathan Lewis as specialist wingers while Minnesota United’s Kevin Molino should start in the ‘number 10’ role with Defence Force’s Hashim Arcia as back-up.

W Connection’s 32-year-old deep-lying playmaker Hughtun Hector and 38-year-old Central FC full back Carlos Edwards both played as wingers earlier in their careers and might be asked to deputise if necessary.

While the absence of Garcia, Williams and Roach were unavoidable, Lawrence might feel especially let down by Cato who was released shortly after showing up for camp.

Wired868 understands that Cato allegedly showed up at the team’s residential camp with his wife Jonelle Warrick and child, despite being advised against it. The speedy winger then asked for them to spend the night with him and, failing that, for him to be allowed to spend the night at a hotel with the pair and report for training in the morning.

Lawrence dropped him instead.

Neither player nor coach have spoken about the incident on the record as yet and the TTFA said only that Cato “was released due to disciplinary reasons.”

It is worth noting that the entire squad is not yet in camp as Kevin Molino only joined the team today while Kenwyne Jones and Kevan George are expected later today and Joevin Jones reports for duty tomorrow, as he represents Seattle Sounders tonight in MLS action.

As such, Cato felt he deserved some flexibility. Lawrence clearly disagreed.

The head scratching confrontation follows on a tetchy exchange between the David John-Williams-led Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) and the United States Soccer Federation (USSF) president Sunil Gulati and Major League Soccer League (MLS) commissioner Dan Garber.

The TTFA wrote to Gulati and Garber, on 27 May, to point out that the MLS clubs released their players early to the United States national team but not to the Soca Warriors. The TTFA president asked Gulati and Garber for reciprocity.

In response, according to John-Williams, the United States football officials claimed that “the MLS and USSF entered into an agreement before the beginning of the MLS season in January 2017 to release their players early for the June qualifiers.”

This pact between the MLS and the USSF had not previously been made public.

There was no legal grounds under which the TTFA could take action against the MLS in any case. FIFA rules state that clubs are not obliged to release players earlier than three days before match day for games on the same continent and four days for games on separate continents. Otherwise, the respective clubs can use their own prerogative in deciding when to release their employees.

Indeed, John-Williams himself—along with Pro League CEO Dexter Skeene and chairman Larry Romany—could not compel Central FC to release players for international duty outside the FIFA guidelines when ex-Warriors coach Tom Saintfiet demanded them for a Nicaragua tour last December.

United States drew 1-1 with Venezuela in a friendly international encounter last night in Utah, after a second half equaliser by teenaged midfield star Christian Pulisic. In contrast, the Warriors’ only outing in Colorado thus far was a 1-0 win over a FC Boulder team which competes in the largely amateur Premier Development League (PDL).

However, Lawrence said their camp has served its objective of allowing the players to acclimatise to the high altitude. Assistant coach Sol Campbell also joined the squad in Colorado last week.

“We were able to get in some proper training which allowed me and the coaching staff to get a good impression of how the players would react under the  conditions here,” said Lawrence. “The players have responded positively with a good attitude and the spirit in the camp has been good with everyone having a proper understanding as to why we are here.

“Now we are under a week away from the match and we should have the full squad together from later this evening and tomorrow we will begin the final leg of preparations. We are heading into it in a positive frame of mind and ready to focus all our energies into ensuring we prepare as best as possible for what is ahead of us.”

Trinidad and Tobago have never won away to the United States while their only point there in World Cup qualifying action came almost 30 years ago—on 13 May 1989—when Strike Squad midfielder Hutson “Barber” Charles tucked away a last gasp equaliser in a 1-1 result.

Lawrence will try to emulate then coach Everald “Gally” Cummings, despite the absences of Cato, Garcia and Plaza, who all featured under the current boss in World Cup qualifying action.

Trinidad and Tobago have one defeat in four matches under Lawrence so far with wins over Panama and Barbados, a draw with Grenada and a loss to Mexico. USA are unbeaten after five games under coach Bruce Arena with wins over Jamaica and Honduras and draws against Serbia, Panama and Venezuela.

DJW’s Warriors debt, Cato kerfuffle, Hyland’s commitment and Lawrence’s toughest test

Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president David John-Williams has insisted that National Senior Team players will be paid outstanding monies for their World Cup qualifying win over Panama at the pre-arranged time, despite grumbling in the team’s Denver camp today over the FA’s priorities.

The edginess over finances has created a stir for the Soca Warriors, who are still reeling over the sudden departure of United States-based winger Cordell Cato for “indiscipline.”

The Warriors are owed match fees and win bonuses for their 1-0 win over Panama on 24 March at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Port of Spain. According to a team source, the payment should have been made to the players within a month of the match.

Regardless, the players had not made an issue about the outstanding money until Saturday evening when the TTFA announced that it would pay US$100,000 and US$25,000 to the Pro League and Super League respectively for administrative costs.

The release upset players who felt that the TTFA should settle its debt to them before offering money to anyone else.

However, John-Williams disputed that the local body was late in meeting its obligations to the players and said the Warriors misunderstood the specifics of the payment to the Pro League and TTSL. He said that the money used for the local leagues came from a special FIFA fund, which could not be used to satisfy other debts.

“FIFA money cannot go to pay players,” John-Williams told the TTFA. “The money (to pay the Pro League and Super League competitions) was accessed from a special project fund and we made that very clear…

“I am not going to answer [any question about when the players will be paid]. I know clearly what is the arrangement with that and the players know what the arrangement is for that. They know exactly when the money will be paid.”

Undoubtedly, the TTFA is more financially stable at present, although this has much to do with its ability to access FIFA funding, which rarely existed under John-Williams’ predecessor, Raymond Tim Kee.

But it has not all been rosy for the Warriors and current head coach Dennis Lawrence was afforded just two friendly internationals so far against Barbados and Grenada—lesser quality opposition than even what was offered to former coach Tom Saintfiet, who got two matches away to Nicaragua last December.

And some tension remains between the squad and the football president, whose relationship virtually started with a threatened players’ strike, two years ago, in the build-up to a crucial 2016 Copa America Centenario Play Off fixture against Haiti.

On the weekend, though, the Warriors suffered a self-inflicted wound when the TTFA Media announced that Lawrence had cut Cato from the team to face the United States for “disciplinary reasons.”

Neither Lawrence nor Cato have spoken publicly about the fall-out so far. However, Wired868 received information on the issue from an informed source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Cato, according to the source, contacted Lawrence during the week and asked to be allowed to spend Saturday night with his wife, Jonelle Warwick, and report to camp on Sunday morning. Cato lives with his wife in San Jose where he is employed with Major League Soccer (MLS) team San Jose Earthquakes.

Lawrence, a former World Cup 2006 player and Everton assistant coach, blanked Cato’s request and insisted that everyone had to make sacrifices for their World Cup drive—including the coach who did not travel with his own wife.

Incidentally, Warriors midfielder Khaleem Hyland got married last weekend and asked for some days off with his wife before joining the squad. Lawrence answered in the negative and Hyland agreed to postpone his honeymoon to link up with the Warriors at their Denver training camp instead and prepare to face the United States on 8 June.

Cato, according to the source, wanted special consideration. So Lawrence suggested a compromise. The Warriors winger was told that he could spend Saturday with his wife and family in Denver but should then show up alone for camp at 8.30pm.

Instead, Cato allegedly turned up to the team’s hotel at 8.45pm with his wife and son and told the coach that he would see them to their room before he joined the squad for dinner.

Lawrence insisted that Cato’s suggestion was unacceptable and the winger promptly left with his entourage. The player still had not contacted the technical staff by Sunday morning when the head coach named his 24-man squad and explained to the players why Cato was excluded.

Wired868 has so far been unable to reach Cato for his own version of the incident.

The winger’s absence is a blow to the Warriors since they are already shorthanded with a growing list of injuries that now includes Levi Garcia, Willis Plaza, Jomal Williams, Akeem Roach and Carlyle Mitchell while veteran forward Cornell Glen only recently returned from injury and was not included.

Lawrence proved to be resourceful in his maiden World Cup qualifier against Panama when, despite injuries to Radanfah Abu Bakr and Mitchell and the suspension of Sheldon Bateau, the Warriors kept a clean sheet with a rejigged back four that comprised of Mekeil Williams—who was dropped for “poor form” by Saintfiet—and the Pro League trio of Curtis Gonzales, Daneil Cyrus and 38-year-old Carlos Edwards.

And a wrongfully disallowed item from Joevin Jones denied the Warriors the chance of a point against Mexico, four days later in Port of Spain.

Lawrence will face his toughest test as coach in Colorado on 8 June, though, against a team that has not dropped a point at home against the two island republic in 28 years.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 04, 2017, 12:23:00 PM

Dutch-based winger Levi Garcia was not considered for selection due to a hamstring injury while US-based player Cordell Cato was released  due to disciplinary reasons.



Disciplinary reasons, what's the back story on this one?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on June 04, 2017, 12:47:04 PM
smelling of so much sh!t.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Trini Madness on June 04, 2017, 01:07:16 PM

Dutch-based winger Levi Garcia was not considered for selection due to a hamstring injury while US-based player Cordell Cato was released  due to disciplinary reasons.



Disciplinary reasons, what's the back story on this one?

Colorado have boat cruise?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on June 04, 2017, 01:38:44 PM
United States 'players have to do better' with set pieces - Bruce Arena
 BY JEFF CARLISLE


SANDY, Utah -- United States manager Bruce Arena thought his team played "OK" in its 1-1 friendly draw with Venezuela, while also bemoaning his side's frailties on set pieces.

The U.S. fell behind in the 29th minute when a half-cleared corner kick was headed back into the box, allowing Jose Manuel Velazquez to volley home. U.S. goalkeeper Tim Howard then came to the Americans' rescue on two occasions in the first half, as the U.S. defense continued to look wobbly from set plays.

The U.S. perked up in the second half, and equalized through Christian Pulisic in the 61st minute. The U.S. later switched to a 3-5-2 formation but was unable to come up with a game-winner.

"I thought it was a good game," Arena said in his post-match news conference.

"Venezuela played very well, had a game plan that I think we may see on Thursday [against Trinidad & Tobago] as well. [They] dropped off, defended the spaces well, pressured the ball, and countered. And then they caught us on a set piece.

"We were very poor on a couple of set pieces tonight. And then at the other end of the field, I think we could've been a little bit cleaner in our execution. At times we played well, but the final product wasn't very good."

Arena was also critical of his side's play in the first half, one in which the U.S. failed to exploit some transition opportunities.

"I think we just played too slow, too much east-west, and it was because our spacing was poor," he said.

"By our positioning we shut down passing lanes for our players ahead of the ball. Once we opened it up a little bit at the end of the [first] half and then in the second half, we were a little bit more successful getting into the final third of the field, and attempting to create some chances."

The U.S. used the match as preparation for a pair of World Cup qualifiers in the next eight days. The Americans will face Trinidad and Tobago on June 8 before playing Mexico at the Estadio Azteca three days later. With both matches being played at altitude, the U.S. opted to play this game just outside of Salt Lake City in a bid to get the players better acclimatized.

"Dealing with the altitude is a good exercise for our players," he said. "So I give our opponents credit. I thought overall we played okay.

"It was good for me to see some of the new players on the field and get a little bit of a feel for them and see where they're at in terms of their fitness and their sharpness.

"Overall it was a good night. Certainly we would have liked to have won the game, but overall I thought it was good."

The U.S. will no doubt have to clean up their play on set plays, an area that plagued the team in its most recent World Cup qualifier, a 1-1 draw at Panama. Arena insisted the fix isn't a complicated one.

"You mark a guy and you beat him to the ball," he said. "When the ball is cleared and played back in you've got to stay with your man, and beat him to the ball.

"It's simply individual breakdowns. Players have to do better."

That said, he is confident that another five days at altitude will be sufficient to prepare his team for the Soca Warriors.

"We're moving forward at the right pace," he said. "Come Thursday, we're going to find out. I'm optimistic that the team will be ready to play."

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 04, 2017, 02:55:16 PM

Dutch-based winger Levi Garcia was not considered for selection due to a hamstring injury while US-based player Cordell Cato was released  due to disciplinary reasons.
Wired868 understands that Cato allegedly showed up at the team’s residential camp with his wife Jonelle Warrick and child, despite being advised against it. The speedy winger then asked for them to spend the night with him and, failing that, for him to be allowed to spend the night at a hotel with the pair and report for training in the morning.

Lawrence dropped him instead.


Dutch-based winger Levi Garcia was not considered for selection due to a hamstring injury while US-based player Cordell Cato was released  due to disciplinary reasons.



Disciplinary reasons, what's the back story on this one?


Update: According to Wired868


Wired868 understands that Cato allegedly showed up at the team’s residential camp with his wife Jonelle Warrick and child, despite being advised against it. The speedy winger then asked for them to spend the night with him and, failing that, for him to be allowed to spend the night at a hotel with the pair and report for training in the morning.

Lawrence dropped him instead.

 ???  ??? ???
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Fyzoman on June 04, 2017, 04:12:18 PM
I was going to do a timeline/sequence of events with Cato. Playing Friday night, the whole asking to bring "the world's sweetest woman" to camp and apparently being told not to, and STILL doing it? Know what eff it,I can't do this...I give up, que sera, se-effing-ra!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 04, 2017, 04:15:38 PM
 :frustrated:
http://wired868.com/2017/06/04/cato-axed-for-indiscipline-levi-out-with-injury-lawrence-names-team-to-face-usa-crica/
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 04, 2017, 04:59:13 PM
Wtf.. Cato get ban for that?

I hope Cato only ban for 1 game.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 04, 2017, 05:11:53 PM
The same criticism wrt to the team's preparation is only underscored by supposedly pro players doing things like this, our squad is not deep and we need all hands on deck. I really at a loss on this one.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 04, 2017, 05:39:06 PM
Heck of a lot of injuries.  :-\
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sando prince on June 04, 2017, 06:05:47 PM

If there was anytime in our football we need a result away from home against the US it will be this Thursday. Need at least a point, if we leave with nothing the campaign will be on its death bed
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 04, 2017, 06:25:58 PM

If there was anytime in our football we need a result away from home against the US it will be this Thursday. Need at least a point, if we leave with nothing the campaign will be on its death bed

Prince coming from you dahis a real! optimistic comment.

If one refers to the 'how many points will we need' thread, one could say we already on the death bed pleading for intravenous relief.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: madness on June 04, 2017, 06:26:46 PM
this is professional and Cato needs to understand the importance of this game. It's like a job. You can't being your family on the job. this is cato career.  :banginghead:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Controversial on June 04, 2017, 07:06:29 PM
Lawrence playing the game well...

Hats off to the dictator..
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 04, 2017, 08:35:01 PM
this is professional and Cato needs to understand the importance of this game. It's like a job. You can't being your family on the job. this is cato career.  :banginghead:

When you compare Hyland who got married and postpone his honeymoon to join the team.

DL can't encourage that within the team when others making sacrifices
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 05, 2017, 02:00:35 AM
WATCH  Senior Men's Team interacting with young players at Westminster City Park in Denver, Colorado.

https://www.youtube.com/v/nRPnSZd9Xxw
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 05, 2017, 03:48:26 AM
WATCH  Senior Men's Team interacting with young players at Westminster City Park in Denver, Colorado.

https://www.youtube.com/v/nRPnSZd9Xxw

I like this...great for the team spirit, great to see them getting support out there, but most importantly...we got a bonus friendly! ;D :D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on June 05, 2017, 05:15:32 AM
Reasons to believe
By Fazeer Mohammed (Express).


Breaking new ground.

That’s the challenge for Trinidad and Tobago ahead of Thursday’s World Cup qualifier in the United States, or at the very least replicate the achievement of the 1989 team which came away from the duel in California with a 1-1 draw courtesy of Hutson Charles’ equaliser.

After such a shaky start to the final phase of the campaign, there is little breathing space left for the national side unless other results go in their favour the rest of the way. In fact, just breathing properly might pose a bit of a challenge given that the venue for the meeting with the Americans – Commerce City in Colorado – is at an altitude of over 5,000 feet.

If this sounds very flattering to the national team that the Yanks would go to such heights to ensure every possible advantage ahead of a meeting with a side at the bottom of the six-nation standings, there are at least two factors to be taken into consideration.

One, the hosts aren’t exactly in the lap of luxury themselves having also stumbled at the start of the “Hex” with defeats in their first two games before taking four points from the last two, which means they are level with Honduras and just a point ahead of Trinidad and Tobago. So they need every possible advantage that can be squeezed out for that game.

Two, they go on to the even greater altitude of Mexico City just five days later to take on the leaders in full knowledge they have never won a World Cup qualifier in that country and that the full house at the Azteca Stadium will probably be even more intimidating given the highly emotive anti-Mexican rhetoric that helped propel Donald Trump to the presidency of the United States.

So there is no risk of minimising the degree of the challenge facing head coach Dennis Lawrence as he prepares the national squad for Thursday’s game, followed immediately by the trip to San Jose where they will also be hoping to sneak a result against Costa Rica the following Tuesday. If this feels like a make-or-break double assignment well, it probably is.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the circumstances that took us from Stephen Hart to Tom Saintfiet to Lawrence in the space of a few weeks at the start of the year, it cannot be ignored that the former national defender has brought about a measurable improvement to the team as evidenced in the 1-0 win over Panama and even the narrow loss to the Mexicans at home in the last two World Cup qualifiers at the end of March.

Whether he has had enough time and resources to mould a competitive team that can surprise Bruce Arena’s side will only be known when the game gets underway. As the vast majority of players who are likely to feature in the starting 11 on Thursday night are overseas-based there isn’t much that can be read into the come-from-behind 2-2 draw in Grenada last month other than our locally-based players having a long way to go before they meet the requirements of top-level international football.

As tight as the race is for the three automatic qualifying spots and the fourth-placed playoff position (third-placed Panama are just two points ahead of T&T), the reason this could be a defining two games for the national team is the potential impact of results with four more qualifying games to come in September and October.

Of course we’re looking for points. Two would be excellent, especially if the other results go our way. Anything more than that would be fantastic and definitely revive aspirations of reaching football’s “Big Yard” for only the second time in the nation’s history.

Realistically though, and especially given the defensive frailties that continue to be exposed never mind the amount of presumably remedial work, those of us fearing the worst will be bracing for defeats in those two games. Yet even in such a scenario, even if we were to remain rooted at the bottom of the table, it will not be a total loss if the Trinidad and Tobago side is able to show the same sort of spirit and effort, and probably even more, against the USA and Costa Rica.

Remember there are still four more games to come, and while translating that into 12 points is extreme optimism to the point of being delusional, there will be something to work with and still build upon if an honest assessment of these two critical fixtures is that there is enough to suggest all is not lost, as yet.

Of course a total defensive collapse and a soulless, disjointed effort will kill off any positive speculation once and for all. Let’s hope our footballers can give us reason to believe.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on June 05, 2017, 08:34:35 AM

Dutch-based winger Levi Garcia was not considered for selection due to a hamstring injury while US-based player Cordell Cato was released  due to disciplinary reasons.



Disciplinary reasons, what's the back story on this one?

Colorado have boat cruise?

Cato name ever call in anything so before? ::)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: MEP on June 05, 2017, 10:43:25 AM
I hope there is something more than that with Cordell for Lawrence's sake otherwise I'm simply reminded of this verse

When meh fans and them tell meh
 They fine meh career going rel fine
I does simply have to tell them
You is the driving force behind
You is the one that give meh courage
 You is the one that have me great
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 05, 2017, 10:52:36 AM
I hope there is something more than that with Cordell for Lawrence's sake otherwise I'm simply reminded of this verse

When meh fans and them tell meh
 They fine meh career going rel fine
I does simply have to tell them
You is the driving force behind
You is the one that give meh courage
 You is the one that have me great


substitute fans wit wife
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on June 05, 2017, 03:19:37 PM
WATCH: USA vs Trinidad and Tobago pre-game discussion

https://www.youtube.com/v/lbyQlMqrg4s
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on June 05, 2017, 03:35:01 PM
WATCH: Defender Sheldon Bateau looks ahead to the World Cup Qualifier between United States and Trinidad and Tobago

https://www.youtube.com/v/PbnDJNbjLDc
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on June 05, 2017, 04:05:19 PM
Lawrence gets full compliment of players for final preparations ahead of USA World Cup qualifier
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s US-based quartet of Kenwyne Jones, Kevin Molino, Kevan George and Joevin Jones were all checked into the Senior Men’s Team camp in Denver on Monday, giving head coach Dennis Lawrence his first session with a full complement of 24 players ahead of Thursday’s World Cup qualifying showdown with the United States at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park from 6pm (8pm TT time).

Molino arrived on Sunday after playing for Minnesota United the previous day along with George,  while Jones (K) arrived on Sunday night and Jones of Seattle Sounders meeting up with the rest of the group just after midday on Monday after running out for Seattle Sounders on Sunday night.

Lawrence and his staff will now enter their final bit of fine tuning with a clearer mindset knowing that all players are on site and injury free,  adapting to the conditions and actively being part of the sessions both on an off the pitch.

George, who has been a regular member of the Jacksonville Armada team in recent weeksaid the USA clash has been on his mind well in advance of his arrival in Colorado on the weekend.

“I completely forgot everything about my club on the weekend as soon as our game ended and my energies were geared towards preparing for this upcoming game against the US. When we get to Costa Rica, we’ll think about them but my sole focus has been the US and how we can exploit them,” George told TTFA Media.

“I’ve played here in Colorado before with Columbus Crew so I kind of know what to expect in terms of the conditions but you never really know until you go out there on the day. We are all professionals so we have to simply get on with it, George added.

“We have to be disciplined and not get caught up in the magnitude of the game. We all know there are points on the line but if we can stay disciplined and carry out the instructions to coach has been giving us then I think we will be fine,” George said.

“Everything about this game has been at the back of my mind since I was at my club. I feel good and physically ready and just looking forward to executing on Thursday.”

Meantime, home-based W Connection player Alvin Jones is excited but composed about making the 24-man cut as tries to enter the field for a World Cup qualifier against his brother Joevin.

“I feel great to have made the final cut. Finally I have achieved this and now I will try to make the team for the game itself. Everyday myself and Joevin have been speaking and even though he has not been here in camp, it was almost like he’s been here because everyday he’s been on the phone asking about how things have been going in training,” Jones said.

“It’s an honour to be in the World Cup squad with him and I feel good that the coach has given me this look after putting in all the effort in the camp here in Colorado. Now it’s just about settling down even more and getting things right between now and Thursday’s match,” the Connection man added.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on June 05, 2017, 04:39:10 PM
WATCH: Midfielder Kevan George is focused on the upcoming World Cup Qualifier between United States and Trinidad and Tobago

https://www.youtube.com/v/drFHLvCS4wg
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sam on June 05, 2017, 04:59:44 PM
Just finish watching de USA vs Venezuela game.

Fabian Johnson does give away de ball easy.

DeAndre Yedlin is a duncy player.

Christian Pulisic, Bobby Wood and Darlington Nagbe look like trouble.

John Brooks decent, but he eh worth no 20mill.

Michael Bradley lil slow but decent and Clint Dempsey still have toes.



Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Bitter on June 05, 2017, 09:02:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/lSPNQ82Sq4E
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: coache on June 05, 2017, 09:48:53 PM
How come four men now show up for  camp ..wha kind ah nonsense is dat?

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: pull stones on June 05, 2017, 10:45:27 PM
Lawrence playing the game well...

Hats off to the dictator..
ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok we friggin got it, now please would you change your blasted record and bugg off. ok DJW is a dictator and Lawrence is his lackey so what else is new, we get it now for Christ sake would yo u please go away.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: pull stones on June 05, 2017, 10:57:16 PM
I hope there is something more than that with Cordell for Lawrence's sake otherwise I'm simply reminded of this verse

When meh fans and them tell meh
 They fine meh career going rel fine
I does simply have to tell them
You is the driving force behind
You is the one that give meh courage
 You is the one that have me great


substitute fans wit wife
i don't see Cato as a big loss. imo this guy should never start because he is simply no threat and this has been his contributions for the last two years. he runs down the flank with zero dribbling ability and gets trapped by two defenders and Loses the possession, he puts in zero crosses in the box especially when we have the best header of the ball in the whole of concacaf. He often makes bad decisions in attacking and defending situations, so this could be a blessing in disguise and maybe Nathan Lewis could make the difference, who knows.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on June 06, 2017, 08:11:33 AM
A brief history of the USMNT versus Trinidad and Tobago
By Jared Young (starsandstripesfc.com)


Trinidad and Tobago versus the United States has been one of those David and Goliath matchups where the story never materializes, because Goliath crushes David as expected. Trinidad and Tobago is coming to the United States where they have never won in thirteen attempts and have failed to register a goal since 1996, a streak of more than 600 minutes. The only time Trinidad and Tobago earned a result was in 1989 when the Soca Warriors drew 1-1. The U.S. has won ten straight at home and outscored Trinidad and Tobago 25-3 during that stretch.

When traveling to Port of Spain, Trinidad the U.S. has a more modest record of 5-2-3 (W-L-D), with the last loss coming 2-1 in a 2008 World Cup qualifier. The United States had already qualified for the hexagonal and therefore started a young team in that match. The other loss occurred in a post-World Cup friendly in 1994. It’s safe to say when the games matter, the U.S. does not lose to Trinidad and Tobago.

Overall the U.S. has a 17-2-4 record against Trinidad and Tobago and are 12-1-3 in World Cup qualifiers. Jozy Altidore is the leading scorer in this series, notching five goals. Eric Wynalda holds second place with three goals.

Due to the one-sided nature of this series this is one that really hasn’t gotten going. Trinidad and Tobago has served as a sure three points for the U.S. when it comes to qualifying and the main drama in the June 8th matchup in Denver is whether or not the Soca Warriors will end their two decade goalless streak.

Here’s a chart showing the historical goal differential between these two nations.

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on June 06, 2017, 10:51:46 AM
We'll if we really playing 2 matched against Colorado rapids, then one I them shoulda happen by now, no?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 06, 2017, 11:29:30 AM
We'll if we really playing 2 matched against Colorado rapids, then one I them shoulda happen by now, no?
Who knows....it was reported that we were to play 2 games against the Rapids, then so far to my knowledge it's been 1 game against Boulder FC and a scrimmage with some U10 kids in a rec league.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 06, 2017, 11:31:30 AM
We'll if we really playing 2 matched against Colorado rapids, then one I them shoulda happen by now, no?

Without a doubt.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: maxg on June 06, 2017, 01:26:52 PM
We'll if we really playing 2 matched against Colorado rapids, then one I them shoulda happen by now, no?
Who knows....it was reported that we were to play 2 games against the Rapids, then so far to my knowledge it's been 1 game against Boulder FC and a scrimmage with some U10 kids in a rec league.
ahhhm  who win the U10 game ?    :devil:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 06, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
There are advantages to not playing any meaningful matches as preparation prior to a WC qualifier

1 - The opposition cyah properly scout we

2 - Our secret weapons will therefore be unknown to the opposition.  Hopefully they not also unknown to our coaching staff  :-[

3 - The players will be well rested and should avoid injury

4 - The players won't get demoralized if they got a thumping in a practice match (hence the match against the U 10's.  Tallest eh taking no chances at all!)

5 - TTFA can use the "camp" as a relaxation and team bonding exercise in lieu of payment of match fees

 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: elan on June 06, 2017, 01:40:44 PM
Men eh care nah. Family values be damned for the NT.


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 06, 2017, 02:28:02 PM
Allyuh overrating de U-10 match. Ball possession was questionable.  :rotfl: Ah sorry ah post that. :P
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on June 06, 2017, 03:01:20 PM
Dissatisfaction in the T&T camp over non payment from the Panama game according to Shaka Hislop on ESPN.

http://www.espn.co.uk/video/latest-videos/600/video/3139201

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 06, 2017, 03:19:40 PM
Dissatisfaction in the T&T camp over non payment from the Panama game according to Shaka Hislop on ESPN.

http://www.espn.co.uk/video/latest-videos/600/video/3139201

5 - TTFA can use the "camp" as a relaxation and team bonding exercise in lieu of payment of match fees
So much for that :devil:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 06, 2017, 03:28:08 PM
Dissatisfaction in the T&T camp over non payment from the Panama game according to Shaka Hislop on ESPN.

http://www.espn.co.uk/video/latest-videos/600/video/3139201

5 - TTFA can use the "camp" as a relaxation and team bonding exercise in lieu of payment of match fees
So much for that :devil:

TTFA essentially say.....we pay fuh a holiday fuh allyuh....sen allyuh "foreign"....put allyuh up in nice hotel, feed allyuh, allyuh get to gape at how much white gyuls allyuh want, take a cobo sweat, bade in hotel pool and ting.....and allyuh STILL want to get paid?  >:(

Players eh playin dat doh  ;D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on June 06, 2017, 04:52:59 PM
Shaka take overt ridicule from he peers for backin we for a point boy. Yes we wit yuh TNT regardless Of the piles of sh!t goin on. Come on fellas we with you100%
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 06, 2017, 06:09:27 PM
I go take a beating for what I'm about to say...but I don't think national players should get paid it represent the country. It's a privilege. Win something...as in a tournament, get ah lil raise, house and land...Other than that...it's a privilege and it allows other opportunities to come all yuh way. Just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Dinner Mints on June 06, 2017, 07:19:27 PM
I go take a beating for what I'm about to say...but I don't think national players should get paid it represent the country. It's a privilege. Win something...as in a tournament, get ah lil raise, house and land...Other than that...it's a privilege and it allows other opportunities to come all yuh way. Just my humble opinion.
Lol, so only de men in suits and shirt jack should benefit while the men on the field, sticking they foot in wild tackle, risking they career for pride alone...?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: dcs on June 06, 2017, 08:27:17 PM
I go take a beating for what I'm about to say...but I don't think national players should get paid it represent the country. It's a privilege. Win something...as in a tournament, get ah lil raise, house and land...Other than that...it's a privilege and it allows other opportunities to come all yuh way. Just my humble opinion.

Yes!!!

If you can't agree to play without monetary incentive then don't represent and play club ball. We have this nonstop self destructive cycle around fees. It would be better they instead used the money to be sure the best insurance policies and treatment while on duty.
Playing for the NT is not a job...that's with the club.
Put all the fees money to reduce chance of injury and recovery. Too bad we don't have a union to negotiate what might be acceptable to the players in that kind of scenario.

Staff in admin that is a job. No piece of any prize should go there either.

Coaches different as that is a job open to non-nationals and pay could be negotiated to be tied to results.

It is a complete distraction and overall has brought us absolutely nothing positive as far as results or development.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 06, 2017, 09:02:04 PM
I go take a beating for what I'm about to say...but I don't think national players should get paid it represent the country. It's a privilege. Win something...as in a tournament, get ah lil raise, house and land...Other than that...it's a privilege and it allows other opportunities to come all yuh way. Just my humble opinion.

Yes!!!

If you can't agree to play without monetary incentive then don't represent and play club ball. We have this nonstop self destructive cycle around fees. It would be better they instead used the money to be sure the best insurance policies and treatment while on duty.
Playing for the NT is not a job...that's with the club.
Put all the fees money to reduce chance of injury and recovery. Too bad we don't have a union to negotiate what might be acceptable to the players in that kind of scenario.

Staff in admin that is a job. No piece of any prize should go there either.

Coaches different as that is a job open to non-nationals and pay could be negotiated to be tied to results.

It is a complete distraction and overall has brought us absolutely nothing positive as far as results or development.

There is a difference to your points above and the fact that a payment was promised and not delivered.

I agree that we contribute to our problems just as much as any on field opponent
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: MEP on June 06, 2017, 09:34:46 PM
I go take a beating for what I'm about to say...but I don't think national players should get paid it represent the country. It's a privilege. Win something...as in a tournament, get ah lil raise, house and land...Other than that...it's a privilege and it allows other opportunities to come all yuh way. Just my humble opinion.
self-flagellation would be more apropos 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on June 07, 2017, 01:43:03 AM
T&T Footballers fine tune for showdown in Colorado.
TTFA Media.


“What happened in the past is in the past,”

Those were the words of Finnish-based defender Aubrey David as he completed training just two days before Thursday’s 2018 World Cup qualifying match against the United States at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park in Denver. He cited that the last time T&T got anything in a World Cup qualifier in the US was back in the 1990 campaign and the last time both teams met, US ran out 4-0 winners in the 2018 semi-final round of qualification.

“Coach has kept say that we have our own history to write. So what happened in 1989 or 2016 is not on my mind at the moment. We have a lot more to think about heading into Thursday’s match here in Denver,” David told TTFA Media on Monday evening after a session at Prentup Field.

David has experienced the conditions in Colorado before while being a member of Dallas FC during his loan deal from Costa Rican club Deportivo Saprissa and he’s settled in well under the conditions since joining the squad on the weekend for what is another massive encounter on the road for Dennis Lawrence’s men.

The MLS-based players such as Kenwyne Jones, Joevin Jones, Kevin Molino, Mekeil Williams and Kevan George (while he was at Columbus Crew) have all been through the rigours of playing at high altitude at Dick’s while the rest of the squad have all undergone the necessary acclimatisation strategies and training over the past twelve days or so, carefully monitored and assessed by the Team’s medical staff.

“I feel good at the moment. The sessions have been detailed and intense when necessary because the coach has ensured to go about things in the right manner with the boys,” David said.

“I’ve been here before with Dallas so it’s nothing overly new to me but it was important for the the other players, including the home-based ones to get here a bit earlier and settle in. The last couple days were good in that players were showing good signs in training and being able to execute what the coach wants without any issues,” said the former Caledonia AIA player.

David believes Thursday’s match could turn out to be one that goes down to the wire.

“At this stage of the competition, with both teams still in the race, you can expect it to be very close or who knows, if one team gets out really fast, the other can be caught playing catch up. But we are not here to lie down and let the home team get on top of us. We have that belief that if we stay in the game for long periods and stay disciplined then we can get something out of it. At the same time we will not be complacent at all by thinking it’s going to be easy. We have to dig deep and grind out a result before we go to Costa Rica,” David added.

The T&T team has trained twice at Colorado Rapids training ground which is opposite Dick’s Sporting Goods (game venue) and the rest of the days at Prentup Field, which is 5430 feet above sea level which is higher than the game venue located at 5200 feet.

“The altitude issue is a big issue,” US head coach Bruce Arena told the US press on Monday. “If you come in for one or two days, you can get through it because your body still hasn’t understood fully. Now all bodies understand, so we’re playing through that a little bit. Hopefully by Thursday, we are going to be a little bit more adjusted and ready to be a little bit better prepared for Mexico City.”

Meantime,  John Brooks participated in the U.S. national team’s practice Monday,  two days after he injured his right leg in the 1-1 draw with Venezuela in Utah.

Thursday’s match is a reported sold out with US Soccer adding temporary seats on the north end line and in the corners of the mezzanine level to lift capacity by about 1,500 to approximately 19,500.

Fans can view Thursday’s match live on Flow Sports as well as listen to a live radio broadcast on I95.5FM. Kick off is 5:50pm (7:50pm TT time).

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on June 07, 2017, 01:45:45 AM
T&T Prepares for USA – In Photos

(http://ttfootball.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/kenwyne-1024x683.jpg)

(http://ttfootball.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/carlos2-1024x683.jpg)

(http://ttfootball.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Paul1-1024x624.jpg)

(http://ttfootball.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/tttrains-1024x555.jpg)

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Controversial on June 07, 2017, 01:52:07 AM
So let me get this straight, other national players in other sides can get paid but our players don't need it?  :rotfl:

So the dictator donate money to the pro league but have no money to pay our players, to me that is sabotage

Because he knows the players will be disgruntled and Tallest agrees with this treatment, Hart was the only coach who fought for the players rights and he got fired for it

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: sjahrain on June 07, 2017, 02:46:57 AM
Please do not hit the self destruct button again
Shit ...when will we learn
Jah bless
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 07, 2017, 03:13:34 AM
I go take a beating for what I'm about to say...but I don't think national players should get paid it represent the country. It's a privilege. Win something...as in a tournament, get ah lil raise, house and land...Other than that...it's a privilege and it allows other opportunities to come all yuh way. Just my humble opinion.
Lol, so only de men in suits and shirt jack should benefit while the men on the field, sticking they foot in wild tackle, risking they career for pride alone...?

Mints, I hear and agree about the risks. I specifically said I don't think players on the national team should get paid, unless they win a tournament, it is a privilege to play for your country.

Now what should 100% be afforded to the players are, proper meals, accommodation, training and training gear, transportation and insurance. Regarding the staff...as a soldier pointed out, staff could be anyone, they hv administrative suites and should be compensated fairly aligned with their position. Positions not limited to a coach and his staff, right down to the water boy...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on June 07, 2017, 04:26:42 AM
I know DJW and I can assure you the players will get paid, there should be no insecurities from the T&T players.

Their pay might be late sometimes, but its inevitable.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 07, 2017, 04:29:35 AM
I know DJW and I can assure you the players will get paid, there should be no insecurities from the T&T players.

Their pay might be late sometimes, but its inevitable.

Why inevitable?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on June 07, 2017, 05:01:19 AM
I know DJW and I can assure you the players will get paid, there should be no insecurities from the T&T players.

Their pay might be late sometimes, but its inevitable.

Why inevitable?

Well, its certain to happen, they will get their money, I'm 100% sure.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Jumbie on June 07, 2017, 07:36:50 AM
Best of luck to the team, management and staff. My trip to AZ got cancelled last minute, so I won't be taking the drive over to support. However I'll be online somewhere supporting.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 07, 2017, 08:24:17 AM
So my choice of line up... 4-5-1:

                       Williams

Gonzalez           Cyrus           Bateau           M.Williams


                Hyland       George

                             
Hector              Molino                   Joevin
                         K9Jones.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 07, 2017, 08:32:03 AM
Gonzalez did very well against Mexico, skillful, good reader and fast.
Cyrus plays better as a CD, and he cld handle Jozi and Dempsey attempts at getting rough up. He has great speed too.
Bateau...no explanation needed.
Mekeil plays against these guys, that's his position and he moves the ball fwd well with good link up play on the flanks.
Hyland and George will break up pulisia and Bradley play in the middle, as well as good link up between defense and offense.
Hector I was a lil indecisive about, but he's better and tested than anyone else. I rate him better than Cato too.
Molino, #10, feeding of  Kenwyne, and creating as well.
Joevin... no explanation needed. Carenage boy...great link up from mekeil to him, to Molino.
And finally...the black beast. He will cause it come show time!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Jayerson on June 07, 2017, 08:38:12 AM
I go take a beating for what I'm about to say...but I don't think national players should get paid it represent the country. It's a privilege. Win something...as in a tournament, get ah lil raise, house and land...Other than that...it's a privilege and it allows other opportunities to come all yuh way. Just my humble opinion.
Lol, so only de men in suits and shirt jack should benefit while the men on the field, sticking they foot in wild tackle, risking they career for pride alone...?

Mints, I hear and agree about the risks. I specifically said I don't think players on the national team should get paid, unless they win a tournament, it is a privilege to play for your country.

Now what should 100% be afforded to the players are, proper meals, accommodation, training and training gear, transportation and insurance. Regarding the staff...as a soldier pointed out, staff could be anyone, they hv administrative suites and should be compensated fairly aligned with their position. Positions not limited to a coach and his staff, right down to the water boy...

So, isn't it a privilege to play for England, Germany, Mexico, Ghana, Bolivia etc also? Their players are paid. Once other countries are paying their players, our players will view not being paid as inequity in their minds and that will result in reduced performance on the field. When you play a sport and you're not paid for it...that's being an amateur, like my Sunday league. Being honoured to represent your national team and being paid for it, one should not affect the other imho.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 07, 2017, 08:46:49 AM
I know DJW and I can assure you the players will get paid, there should be no insecurities from the T&T players.

Their pay might be late sometimes, but its inevitable.



WOW!  :o
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 07, 2017, 09:23:10 AM
I know DJW and I can assure you the players will get paid, there should be no insecurities from the T&T players.

Their pay might be late sometimes, but its inevitable.



WOW!  :o

Palos, doh cause no chubble. Dahis a limb that might lead to office space.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on June 07, 2017, 09:28:37 AM
I go take a beating for what I'm about to say...but I don't think national players should get paid it represent the country. It's a privilege. Win something...as in a tournament, get ah lil raise, house and land...Other than that...it's a privilege and it allows other opportunities to come all yuh way. Just my humble opinion.
Lol, so only de men in suits and shirt jack should benefit while the men on the field, sticking they foot in wild tackle, risking they career for pride alone...?

Mints, I hear and agree about the risks. I specifically said I don't think players on the national team should get paid, unless they win a tournament, it is a privilege to play for your country.

Now what should 100% be afforded to the players are, proper meals, accommodation, training and training gear, transportation and insurance. Regarding the staff...as a soldier pointed out, staff could be anyone, they hv administrative suites and should be compensated fairly aligned with their position. Positions not limited to a coach and his staff, right down to the water boy...

So wait, while it is standard within the industry to be paid when appearing for national duty, our players (and only our players) should forego this for pride?  So whatever you are qualified to do if the government need you to do it for T&T and reach out, you would do it for free correct.  If war break out should our defense force forego monies to since they would be fighting to defend their home?  What f0(kry allyuh does ketch allyuh self talkin dan?!!  That is the dumbest shit anybody ever say on here and I doh care who doh like it but dat is bullshit of the highest order.  That is the men and them livelihood and they should risk it for free?!! big long f**kin steups!
Title: Denver Meetup?
Post by: kounty on June 07, 2017, 09:49:50 AM
A few people on the forum drop hints that they heading Denver for the match, so I just checking to see if anybody interested in bouncing up. Me and another forumite - santacruz - touching Denver @ 9amThursday.
Apparently Dick's park don't allow alcoholic tailgate:
Quote
TAILGATING

Tailgating is allowed in all stadium lots; however, please respect fellow fans by only occupying one parking space. Tailgating should take place directly behind your vehicle or in adjacent landscape areas only. You may not block other parking spaces, walkways or any aisle ways with tents, trailers, chairs, coolers, or barbeques.

Note: All barbeques must use a controlled flame. Open fires using logs, charcoal, or wood barbeques of any kind are strictly prohibited. Propane tanks must be less that 20lbs. Violators will be prosecuted.

Open consumption of alcoholic beverages is prohibited in parking lots surrounding Dick’s Sporting Goods Park.
& I ain't from Denver, so I don't know how else to meet besides with a bottle-o-rum.

The Yanks being organized as they are meeting up at British Bulldog pub and have shuttles to the match for $10  (https://www.tickettailor.com/checkout/view-event/id/92820/chk/d5f7). We could meet there and take we ridicule [as long as nobody decide to throw no drink on me or nuttin], vibes a bit and head the match.
Anybody who plan to lime a bit before the match & or who know where a group of socawarriors fans vibezin before the match text *edit* PM Tallman to get added to the whattsap group. It wukkin! **

I feel this is it. Besides all the sh!t that going on I feel a surprise coming. It look like the boys working hard.

Open to suggestions.


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on June 07, 2017, 10:10:51 AM
I know DJW and I can assure you the players will get paid, there should be no insecurities from the T&T players.

Their pay might be late sometimes, but its inevitable.



WOW!  :o

The players all signed documents 2 weeks ago about getting funds release for payment, this is why I can't understand the beef. Furthermore, the TTFA paid over $200,000 USD just for that training camp in Denver.

Title: Re: Denver Meetup?
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on June 07, 2017, 10:28:35 AM
Me and my old man go be dey, touching down around the same time too.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 07, 2017, 10:30:15 AM
I know DJW and I can assure you the players will get paid, there should be no insecurities from the T&T players.

Their pay might be late sometimes, but its inevitable.



WOW!  :o

The players all signed documents 2 weeks ago about getting funds release for payment, this is why I can't understand the beef. Furthermore, the TTFA paid over $200,000 USD just for that training camp in Denver.

Why is that relevant?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 07, 2017, 10:30:54 AM
I know DJW and I can assure you the players will get paid, there should be no insecurities from the T&T players.

Their pay might be late sometimes, but its inevitable.



WOW!  :o

The players all signed documents 2 weeks ago about getting funds release for payment, this is why I can't understand the beef. Furthermore, the TTFA paid over $200,000 USD just for that training camp in Denver.



It's reasonable to suggest that previously the FA has been less than timely with payments. Even if in earnest the payments will come, if it is past due the players are right to grumble. The FA needs to transform itself in the eyes of the team and re-build trust.

The camp is a good start as far as preparation, other benefits like medicals and health checks are also positive but whatever is promised needs to be delivered on time, in fact do it early if you can. That will start to build trust between players and administrators.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Controversial on June 07, 2017, 10:57:19 AM
I know DJW and I can assure you the players will get paid, there should be no insecurities from the T&T players.

Their pay might be late sometimes, but its inevitable.



WOW!  :o

The players all signed documents 2 weeks ago about getting funds release for payment, this is why I can't understand the beef. Furthermore, the TTFA paid over $200,000 USD just for that training camp in Denver.



Does that include players insurance?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 07, 2017, 10:59:37 AM
I go take a beating for what I'm about to say...but I don't think national players should get paid it represent the country. It's a privilege. Win something...as in a tournament, get ah lil raise, house and land...Other than that...it's a privilege and it allows other opportunities to come all yuh way. Just my humble opinion.
Lol, so only de men in suits and shirt jack should benefit while the men on the field, sticking they foot in wild tackle, risking they career for pride alone...?

Mints, I hear and agree about the risks. I specifically said I don't think players on the national team should get paid, unless they win a tournament, it is a privilege to play for your country.

Now what should 100% be afforded to the players are, proper meals, accommodation, training and training gear, transportation and insurance. Regarding the staff...as a soldier pointed out, staff could be anyone, they hv administrative suites and should be compensated fairly aligned with their position. Positions not limited to a coach and his staff, right down to the water boy...

So wait, while it is standard within the industry to be paid when appearing for national duty, our players (and only our players) should forego this for pride?  So whatever you are qualified to do if the government need you to do it for T&T and reach out, you would do it for free correct.  If war break out should our defense force forego monies to since they would be fighting to defend their home?  What f0(kry allyuh does ketch allyuh self talkin dan?!!  That is the dumbest shit anybody ever say on here and I doh care who doh like it but dat is bullshit of the highest order.  That is the men and them livelihood and they should risk it for free?!! big long f**kin steups!

Yuh cld setups til yuh fall asleep.  :D

I said NATIONAL TEAM PLAYERS, not just Trinidad and Tobago. Imho all national athletes, should not be compensated to represent their country unless they win a tournament. How about that... These players earn their  livelihood playing at their respective club...that is common sense. But I cld see how "that not making any sense," to some people in here.

So there is this saying practice what yuh preach...if I was a national team player, I eh want no pay unless my team qualify for a big tournament, or win a tournament...

The administration should however, provide the absolute best in terms of insurance, accommodations and preparations.

Yuh stuepsinnn still
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on June 07, 2017, 11:12:11 AM
Yuh cld setups til yuh fall asleep.  :D

I said NATIONAL TEAM PLAYERS, not just Trinidad and Tobago. Imho all national athletes, should not be compensated to represent their country unless they win a tournament. How about that... These players earn their  livelihood playing at their respective club...that is common sense. But I cld see how "that not making any sense," to some people in here.

So there is this saying practice what yuh preach...if I was a national team player, I eh want no pay unless my team qualify for a big tournament, or win a tournament...

The administration should however, provide the absolute best in terms of insurance, accommodations and preparations.

Yuh stuepsinnn still

Noble idea but what happens in the case of career ending injury early in career while representing your country.  Who decides how much of a players potential could have been realized and what they will be compensated.  What if that system was in place and a player like Joevin or even Molino got injured before MLS moves?  Now all of a sudden you have a players earning potential limited while performing in his professional capacity representing the nation.  What do they get? Are they gonna be taken care of for life? Based on the chump change they was making in their respective tiers before ascending to the heights they've achieved?  That whole play for free idea is very much flawed, especially when there are profits being generated from the sport.  So when Brazil or Mexico and all selling out stadiums all over, the FA keep the money and players get squat because is not a major tournament?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 07, 2017, 11:24:41 AM
Yuh cld setups til yuh fall asleep.  :D

I said NATIONAL TEAM PLAYERS, not just Trinidad and Tobago. Imho all national athletes, should not be compensated to represent their country unless they win a tournament. How about that... These players earn their  livelihood playing at their respective club...that is common sense. But I cld see how "that not making any sense," to some people in here.

So there is this saying practice what yuh preach...if I was a national team player, I eh want no pay unless my team qualify for a big tournament, or win a tournament...

The administration should however, provide the absolute best in terms of insurance, accommodations and preparations.

Yuh stuepsinnn still

Noble idea but what happens in the case of career ending injury early in career while representing your country.  Who decides how much of a players potential could have been realized and what they will be compensated.  What if that system was in place and a player like Joevin or even Molino got injured before MLS moves?  Now all of a sudden you have a players earning potential limited while performing in his professional capacity representing the nation.  What do they get? Are they gonna be taken care of for life? Based on the chump change they was making in their respective tiers before ascending to the heights they've achieved?  That whole play for free idea is very much flawed, especially when there are profits being generated from the sport.  So when Brazil or Mexico and all selling out stadiums all over, the FA keep the money and players get squat because is not a major tournament?

To answer your questions:
1- what happens if they get a career ending injury?
Their career is over---period. Any injury like that can occur at club or national duty. Don't matter where, career ending is career ending.

2- player like joevin and Molino get hurt before mls move?
If these players just relied on national team playing time to support their livelihood, they wouldn't be able to afford even buying food, yet alone pay a mortgage or rent...how many times are they required to suit up in colors annually...thus being a professional footballer, at a club level affords them a decent to great quality of life.

3- Brazil, Mexico, England, Germany, Spain, Argentina, all those big countries and big teams?
All their players I am sure are playing professionally in leagues across the world. Their money to support their lifestyle isn't coming from ONLY WHEN THEY DON THEIR NATIONAL COLORS. It just wouldn't be enough to support a decent quality of life.

A point I'd like to make as well...I'm not 100 percent sure, but ent to secure a overseas contract a tentative player must have been capped by the national team? If this is true, then, that in itself  pays to be a NT player.
Title: Re: Denver Meetup?
Post by: trini_stallion on June 07, 2017, 11:28:40 AM
Vibes it up fellas!!! I wish i cld hv make a turn!! The team need all yuh support! Trini posse socawarriors edition! Big up all yuhself!
Title: Re: Denver Meetup?
Post by: kounty on June 07, 2017, 12:16:34 PM
Me and my old man go be dey, touching down around the same time too.
Well text mih!!! We go pour both of allyuh a warm shot! :)
Title: Re: Denver Meetup?
Post by: Tallman on June 07, 2017, 12:45:07 PM
I go bey dey. Reaching in around de same time.

Feliziano already dey, and Brownsugar should be dey by now (with ah bottle of double black). Ah hear Preacher might make de run too.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Brownsugar on June 07, 2017, 12:52:29 PM
Fari....check your inbox....ah reach and ah have Scotch...😀

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on June 07, 2017, 01:16:36 PM
To answer your questions:
1- what happens if they get a career ending injury?
Their career is over---period. Any injury like that can occur at club or national duty. Don't matter where, career ending is career ending.

2- player like joevin and Molino get hurt before mls move?
If these players just relied on national team playing time to support their livelihood, they wouldn't be able to afford even buying food, yet alone pay a mortgage or rent...how many times are they required to suit up in colors annually...thus being a professional footballer, at a club level affords them a decent to great quality of life.

3- Brazil, Mexico, England, Germany, Spain, Argentina, all those big countries and big teams?
All their players I am sure are playing professionally in leagues across the world. Their money to support their lifestyle isn't coming from ONLY WHEN THEY DON THEIR NATIONAL COLORS. It just wouldn't be enough to support a decent quality of life.

A point I'd like to make as well...I'm not 100 percent sure, but ent to secure a overseas contract a tentative player must have been capped by the national team? If this is true, then, that in itself  pays to be a NT player.

You off in another direction buddy.  Not sure why you stressing this idea of dependency on nt ball to survive.  I am more concerned with why you feel grown adult professionals should donate their time to what is a for profit industry as opposed to a charitable organization.  Furthermore they do play for pride as it is.  Why else would someone like KJ still lace them up given the kind of jackassness that has been said about him by the "fans."  Which player wants to know that people saying shit like yuh have the first touch of ah raperman or being constantly called a shithong and will still represent among others those very same assholes on the world stage?  You really think pride not already at the root of why they play?  So what caps help you get contracts?  If no pride involved wouldn't they just play for the obligatory amount of caps necessary then retire from nt ball?

If you make a deal with adults then yuh honor yuh deal.  If is standard practice to be paid then pay.  We not talking about college kids on a paid for scholarship, we talking about professional players.  If they want people they don't have to pay then have school boys who are essentially amateurs play.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Flex on June 07, 2017, 02:35:49 PM
I know DJW and I can assure you the players will get paid, there should be no insecurities from the T&T players.

Their pay might be late sometimes, but its inevitable.



WOW!  :o

The players all signed documents 2 weeks ago about getting funds release for payment, this is why I can't understand the beef. Furthermore, the TTFA paid over $200,000 USD just for that training camp in Denver.

Why is that relevant?

Why not?

They obviously have no big money issues !!!

Of course, all is not great, but they are doing the best with what they have.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: just cool on June 07, 2017, 03:04:59 PM
Ah see allyuh setting allyuh self up again like so many other times before, when would yuhs learn, allyuh keep forgetting the ole cliche, when yuh fail to prepare then prepare to fail. we can't even beat grenada in grenada is the yankess we go beat in dey back yard??

all this false optimism about beating the US in the US has never happenned, and by the looks of it would never happen anytime soon!! and if it does this time around (which i seriously doubt) then i will be more than willing to eat that crow, stew or curried with a lots of scotch bonnet for flavoring.

all this rhetoric about beating the US is nonsensical!! especially when this USMNT have all the amenities available to produce good performances. they have infrastructure, adequate funding, a solid following whether they winnin or losing, not a bunch of limers for fans only when things going good, a federation that means business!! not some rag tag federation who scrunting and behind on payments where we run into they "srike" siuations ever so often when a big game comes around.

imagine we going into battle with one of the stalwarts in the region and the players bikkering over monies owed when our oponents solely focused on putting a thumping on us, when would we learn??

we did this same bullsh!t against haiti both in the copa and the caribbean cup AND WE SEE HOW THAT FORKRY worked out for us, AND YES I DOES STILL FOOLOW THE TEAM WHEN I HAVE TIME TOO.

as for lawrence, well boy i rate the soldier, seems like he have more know how that harty, and BC of his playing experience against these teams, he might just have an inside view on how to conteract these teams in the region to his advantage.

win lose or draw i will support the team, but i know better than to go out believing that we beating the US in the US, and woss yet, costa rica in san pedro which is another fortess. i am kinda of the opinion that we already blew this campaign, and should be looking towards the next gold cup and WQC for 2022, but then again, what do i know.

all the same, not me though, i not in that hail mary nonsense of us beating the US or any other team in their own backyard especially when we going with talent and talent alone, i've been there and i don't like the aftermath. for that matter, i don't even think we could beat them in our own yard as in time gone by has already proven me right. good luck to the team though, what i am hoping for though is an injury free game.   god bless. positive.

what we need to be focusing on now is infrastructure and player development, BC it's glaringly obvious that we are blessed with talent, but as we continue to learn that talent alone can't cut it, we need schools and academies for not only physical and skill development, but also mental and aptitude toughness. until then, these bull daggering yankess and sneaky skullduggery loving mexicans would continue to run through us. hope somebody figures it out soon enough to do something about it.   peace.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Big Magician on June 07, 2017, 03:10:18 PM
play de fitball..come on tnt...
Title: Re: Denver Meetup?
Post by: Big Magician on June 07, 2017, 03:10:51 PM
be safe...enjoy...tnt
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: just cool on June 07, 2017, 03:19:16 PM
play de fitball..come on tnt...
you still on those silly one liner cliches, what about play de football right and win with dignity?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Mad Scorpion a/k/a Big Bo$$ on June 07, 2017, 03:24:44 PM
JC wha yuh wha we do, we like football and want to see we boys win.  Win lose or draw we have to support dem!
Title: Re: Denver Meetup?
Post by: kounty on June 07, 2017, 04:07:52 PM
I go bey dey. Reaching in around de same time.

Feliziano already dey, and Brownsugar should be dey by now (with ah bottle of double black). Ah hear Preacher might make de run too.
Well the only thing missing is a place to pour the cups. Anybody who name mention here down for a small link in the parking lot a hr or 2 before the game? I could bring cups with lids (so containers not open ;) & ice... Trunk open. Soca playing. Flag on the rental.

... Or I open to another suggestion if somebody have one.
Title: What to expect from Trinidad and Tobago's MLS stars against USA
Post by: Tallman on June 07, 2017, 04:33:51 PM
What to expect from Trinidad and Tobago's MLS stars against USA
By Will Parchment (MLSsoccer.com)


MLS has long been a safe haven for some of the best soccer players the Caribbean has on offer. Shalrie Joseph (Grenada), Ezra Hendrickson (St. Vincent and the Grenadines) and Atiba Harris (St. Kitts and Nevis) are three of the shiniest examples, each of whom has at least 17,000 career minutes logged in MLS.

But no island nation in the warm, boundless waters between the US and South America is producing soccer players for MLS with the regularity of Trinidad and Tobago right now.

The domestic backdrop for the US’s critical 2018 World Cup qualifier against Trinidad and Tobago on Thursday in Colorado (8 pm ET | FS1, UniMas, UDN) is hard to miss. The island nation anchored just off the coast of Venezuela has four players on its 24-man roster for the match currently stationed in MLS: Kenwyne Jones (Atlanta United), Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders), Mekeil Williams (Colorado Rapids) and Kevin Molino (Minnesota United). That number is handily higher than any other foreign league represented on the qualifying roster.

Here's a glimpse at those four MLS players, and what you might expect to see from each on Thursday.

Joevin Jones

Where he’ll play: Outside midfield
What to expect: Lots of running


Joevin Jones’ club experience differs pretty dramatically from what you’re liable to see on the international stage. Sounders fans watched Jones progress into arguably the league’s most dynamic left wingback the last two years, but he’s an out-and-out attacking winger in the midfield for Trinidad and Tobago. The deployment unhinges his defensive responsibilities, but it also removes his greatest danger as an overlapping added attacker used to flood swamped opposing fullbacks.

That doesn’t mean Jones isn’t a clear and present danger for country, because he’s still a nightmare when he catches defenders flat. That goes double considering his current run of form, which has him playing at a consistently higher level than at any time in his career. The question is merely whether he’s as dangerous when he isn’t sprinting from deeper launch points.

Mekeil Williams

Where he’ll play: Left back
What to expect: Traditional hard-tackling, stand-up defending


Of Trinidad and Tobago’s defensive corps, none are perhaps quite as versatile as Williams. He can play along the entirety of the backline, including both fullback spots and up the middle. He’s even played in the defensive midfield for country before, although if he plays – and he most likely will – it’ll be on the backline. And most likely at left back, his most natural position as a left-footed player with defensive sensibilities. He won’t raid like Jones would, but as a spatial defender he can hold his own.

Williams had a healthy stretch of starts at left back for the Rapids earlier this year, but he was sent off in a 1-0 loss to Vancouver on May 5, and he hasn’t started any of the Rapids’ five games since. He entered international camp with four first-team minutes under his belt in a month, which could hinder his sharpness come match time. But Williams is familiar with Colorado and altitude, which should give him an inside track.

Kevin Molino

Where he’ll play: Attacking midfield
What to expect: Copious amounts of open-field danger


Minnesota United gave up a lot to secure Kevin Molino in time for the 2017 season. That was in large part due to his former coach Adrian Heath, who oversaw Molino’s development at Orlando City and now does so in Minnesota. The reason Heath was so keen to secure Molino was because his skill set is so rare and generally coveted. Molino is an attacking dervish, constantly spinning into space and challenging defenders’ footwork. Molino has been generally out of favor on the national team scene and missed the last few qualifiers, but his inclusion means you can likely expect to see him on Thursday night.

Molino’s dynamism in the attacking third is more or less unmatched on this roster. He’s also in ripping form for Minnesota United, with five goals and three assists to his name over the first three months of the MLS season. Wherever he’s positioned, either as the central creator or as the other wide peg opposite Jones, the US has to be wary of his open-field terror.

Kenwyne Jones

Where he’ll play: Target striker
What to expect: Lots of bruising hold-up play


Whatever Kenwyne Jones’ role on the club scene, there’s never been any doubt about his bonafides as one of the best to ever lace them up for Trinidad and Tobago. In fact, Jones is so highly regarded in his home country that he carries the “CM” designator next to his name. The Chaconia Medal is only awarded to 10 people annually and is the second-highest medal awarded by Trinidad and Tobago for meritorious service. Jones’ 23 goals for his country over more than a decade of service have clearly not gone unnoticed.

On the field, it certainly seems as though the 32-year-old classic No. 9 is slowing down. He’s been an on-and-off starter for Atlanta, where he’s bagged two goals in 416 minutes in 2017. Jones is more of a stalking poacher in the box, and whatever squalls hit him for club, he’s been unerringly consistent for country. Despite the advancement of age he remains one of CONCACAF’s most dangerous strikers, and he’ll test the physical marking abilities of whoever Bruce Arena chooses to go with at center back.
Title: Re: Denver Meetup?
Post by: Tallman on June 07, 2017, 05:37:03 PM
I created a WhatsApp group. PM meh yuh name and number, and ah will add yuh.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 07, 2017, 07:11:25 PM
Quote
But no island nation in the warm, boundless waters between the US and South America is producing soccer players for MLS with the regularity of Trinidad and Tobago right now.

Should/is our objective [be] to produce players for the MLS?

Barf, barf.

I suppose beggars cyah be choosers.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Tallman on June 07, 2017, 08:17:13 PM
T&T Goes for It!
TTFA Media.


Looking to defy the odds in Colorado

Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior men’s team will be aiming to defy the odds when they take to the field at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park on Thursday from 8pm TT time to face off with the United States in a CONCACAF Final Round World Cup Qualifier.

History is not on the side of the visitors but head coach Dennis Lawrence has from day one on the job stressed to his players that they “must write their own history.”

“It’s right there in our hands for the taking. We must show how much we want it. This team, the players, must write their own history,” Lawrence said.

T&T have not scored a goal against the hosts on US soil since the 1996 Gold Cup, a double by Arnold Dwarika in a 3-2 defeat, some six hundred minutes of football have passed. And the last time T&T secured a point was in May, 1989 when Hutson Charles’ last gasp equaliser earned a 1-1 draw in California. In 23 meetings since 1982, T&T have won only twice, both in Port of Spain, lost 17 and drawn four.

US football website StarsandStripesfc.com wrote on Tuesday, “Trinidad and Tobago versus the United States has been one of those David and Goliath matchups where the story never materializes, because Goliath crushes David as expected.”

Whether or not, Goliath’s home advantage will count at Dick’s is left to be seen.

“We are always considered the underdogs when we come up against the United States moreso because of the results but the only way to begin changing that concept is by turning the tables and we have another chance to start this come Thursday,” Kenwyne Jones told TTFA Media.

“The history is rich between the two teams and while they have gone on to play in more World Cups and are a much bigger country that we are, I think that when it comes to stepping onto the same field, anything is possible. We have the right mentality and with the right approach and desire, we have demonstrated that a result is not beyond us,” Jones added.

T&T has a injury-free compliment of players with US-based handful of Kevin Molino, Joevin Jones, Kevan George, Mekeil Williams and Jones (K) all ready to produce the goods along with the rest of the troops. Lawrence has a steady group including the likes of Shahdon Winchester, Daneil Cyrus, Jamille Boatswain, Hughtun Hector, Radanfah Abu Bakr, goalkeepers Jan Michael Williams and Marvin Phillip among others from which to look to.

Veteran Carlos Edwards has lots of memories when it comes to battling the Americans.

“The rivalry is a long one from since I was a kid in 1989 to then coming up against them maybe five or six times in World Cup qualifying football as a player. Every game is different but I don’t think the occasion is one that can easily get the better of us. Hometown advantage is always critical but we know what we are here for and it’s a level playing field from the opening whistle. What we have to do is finish the game with more of everything, more energy, more legs, and more points,” Edwards said.

Seattle Sounders’ Joevin Jones will be up against club teammate Clint Dempsey and he’s ready for the face to face battle.

“Clint is a really good player. We are teammates at Seattle but in this game we’re on opposite ends. I think our players will have to keep an eye on him because he could be dangerous. But generally, I’m focused on playing my game and doing well,” Jones told TTFA Media on Wednesday shortly before the team’s lone training session at Dick’s Sporting.

“WE have never won here in the US but I think if we stay focused we can get a good result. The key to playing in the conditions is getting the lungs opened up early. As the game progresses I think both teams will have challenges but it’s all about who can last the full ninety,” Jones added.

T&T will play in white strips.

Match day -1 The Day Before (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjKu0gzBqBw)


WATCH: The last day of preparations before Trinidad and Tobago face the United States. Kenwyne Jones and Joevin Jones share their thoughts.

https://www.youtube.com/v/EjKu0gzBqBw
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Big Magician on June 07, 2017, 08:32:34 PM
you fix up nah...I Just Cool.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 07, 2017, 09:20:10 PM
you fix up nah...I Just Cool.
;D. Nice one BM  :beermug:

Good to see u JC, bredda, I hear u loud and clear...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Deeks on June 08, 2017, 04:15:14 AM
trini_stallion, while your suggestion is noble, you ignoring the reality of the modern day football, and the lives of people who playing the sport. It is an honour and privilege to play for your country, but honour and previlege don't put food on the table, or pay for severe injuries. Let's agree to disagree on this one.

I old enough to know when TT players used toplay for honour and dignity. The fans loved it, but TT football did not go anywhere. In the "bun and sweet drink" days, unless you played for a factory team or a govt ministry team, your international career was limited.

Ask what happened to Nobbie Philips from TECSA who got injured while playing against Nautico. He was left to see for himself. Did not play for the national team after that. Ask Mikey Grayson what happened after playing in WC against Haiti. Got an ankle injury. No compensation. His career finished around 28 yrs of age.

With all the money some players making, yes, they should offer their service for "free". Actually some players do. You read about some African players " ponying up" money for other less well payed members of their national to play African Cup and WC. But the reality is, that is the exception to the rule.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 08:17:51 AM
LISTEN  MLS ExtraTime Radio previews the match with Lasana Liburd as an invited guest.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/06/07/extratime-radio-breaking-down-must-win-us-vs-trinidad-tobago

Start from about 10:00 into the podcast.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Peong on June 08, 2017, 08:57:20 AM
Morning all. I still trying to digest that Cleveland Cavs capitulation last night. 
Good luck to the squad tonight! I'll be wearing my vintage 05 Finta warriors jersey around Miami today in solidarity
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Deeks on June 08, 2017, 10:51:33 AM
Prong, this GSW is the better team. Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 08, 2017, 11:29:56 AM
The US have 5 key players on yellows...Cameron, Bradley, Brooks, Besler and Altidore. I know Bruce also want these guys to be available for Mexico on Sunday so rumor is he may not risk playing all of them tonight in fear of them picking up another yellow. Whoever starts in this bunch, we have to take it to them because they might play cautious.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 08, 2017, 11:45:56 AM
trini_stallion, while your suggestion is noble, you ignoring the reality of the modern day football, and the lives of people who playing the sport. It is an honour and privilege to play for your country, but honour and previlege don't put food on the table, or pay for severe injuries. Let's agree to disagree on this one.

I old enough to know when TT players used toplay for honour and dignity. The fans loved it, but TT football did not go anywhere. In the "bun and sweet drink" days, unless you played for a factory team or a govt ministry team, your international career was limited.

Ask what happened to Nobbie Philips from TECSA who got injured while playing against Nautico. He was left to see for himself. Did not play for the national team after that. Ask Mikey Grayson what happened after playing in WC against Haiti. Got an ankle injury. No compensation. His career finished around 28 yrs of age.

With all the money some players making, yes, they should offer their service for "free". Actually some players do. You read about some African players " ponying up" money for other less well payed members of their national to play African Cup and WC. But the reality is, that is the exception to the rule.

Noble?

Is pure assness.

Who the PAYING public come out to see?

Who the TV rights people paying to see?

When advertisers spend $$$ hoping to capture eyes on TV and elsewhere when the National Team playing....who those eyes come to see?


When those eyes come out in their thousands to see administrators and a logo of the country flag and NOT the players, then get back to me bout playing for pride and honour

Otherwise.....is pure, unadulterated, f**kery that stallion chattin dey
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 08, 2017, 12:55:31 PM
The US have 5 key players on yellows...Cameron, Bradley, Brooks, Besler and Altidore. I know Bruce also want these guys to be available for Mexico on Sunday so rumor is he may not risk playing all of them tonight in fear of them picking up another yellow. Whoever starts in this bunch, we have to take it to them because they might play cautious.

Bradley might not play. I posted that a few days ago. I expect another physical player to take his spot.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 08, 2017, 01:08:58 PM
trini_stallion, while your suggestion is noble, you ignoring the reality of the modern day football, and the lives of people who playing the sport. It is an honour and privilege to play for your country, but honour and previlege don't put food on the table, or pay for severe injuries. Let's agree to disagree on this one.

I old enough to know when TT players used toplay for honour and dignity. The fans loved it, but TT football did not go anywhere. In the "bun and sweet drink" days, unless you played for a factory team or a govt ministry team, your international career was limited.

Ask what happened to Nobbie Philips from TECSA who got injured while playing against Nautico. He was left to see for himself. Did not play for the national team after that. Ask Mikey Grayson what happened after playing in WC against Haiti. Got an ankle injury. No compensation. His career finished around 28 yrs of age.

With all the money some players making, yes, they should offer their service for "free". Actually some players do. You read about some African players " ponying up" money for other less well payed members of their national to play African Cup and WC. But the reality is, that is the exception to the rule.

Noble?

Is pure assness.

Who the PAYING public come out to see?

Who the TV rights people paying to see?

When advertisers spend $$$ hoping to capture eyes on TV and elsewhere when the National Team playing....who those eyes come to see?


When those eyes come out in their thousands to see administrators and a logo of the country flag and NOT the players, then get back to me bout playing for pride and honour

Otherwise.....is pure, unadulterated, f**kery that stallion chattin dey

If you don't understand where I coming from you just dotish. How cld I express my view in a different way...one more try...to play for a national team, one should not be motivated by financial compensation by playing those said games. If I was a player, I would be motivated by the opportunities it may bring...in terms of exposure, experience, and show casing my talent to possible scouts. It would be about no chump change...100/200$us per game...nah man
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Swima on June 08, 2017, 01:31:09 PM
trini_stallion, while your suggestion is noble, you ignoring the reality of the modern day football, and the lives of people who playing the sport. It is an honour and privilege to play for your country, but honour and previlege don't put food on the table, or pay for severe injuries. Let's agree to disagree on this one.

I old enough to know when TT players used toplay for honour and dignity. The fans loved it, but TT football did not go anywhere. In the "bun and sweet drink" days, unless you played for a factory team or a govt ministry team, your international career was limited.

Ask what happened to Nobbie Philips from TECSA who got injured while playing against Nautico. He was left to see for himself. Did not play for the national team after that. Ask Mikey Grayson what happened after playing in WC against Haiti. Got an ankle injury. No compensation. His career finished around 28 yrs of age.

With all the money some players making, yes, they should offer their service for "free". Actually some players do. You read about some African players " ponying up" money for other less well payed members of their national to play African Cup and WC. But the reality is, that is the exception to the rule.

Noble?

Is pure assness.

Who the PAYING public come out to see?

Who the TV rights people paying to see?

When advertisers spend $$$ hoping to capture eyes on TV and elsewhere when the National Team playing....who those eyes come to see?


When those eyes come out in their thousands to see administrators and a logo of the country flag and NOT the players, then get back to me bout playing for pride and honour

Otherwise.....is pure, unadulterated, f**kery that stallion chattin dey

If you don't understand where I coming from you just dotish. How cld I express my view in a different way...one more try...to play for a national team, one should not be motivated by financial compensation by playing those said games. If I was a player, I would be motivated by the opportunities it may bring...in terms of exposure, experience, and show casing my talent to possible scouts. It would be about no chump change...100/200$us per game...nah man

That is different from what you said originally. Motivation and policy are two different things. There should be a remuneration policy, even if the motivational levels are different. I'm sure everyone who has a chance to play in a World Cup feels highly motivated. Doesn't mean they should not get paid.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 08, 2017, 03:01:15 PM

If you don't understand where I coming from you just dotish. How cld I express my view in a different way...one more try...to play for a national team, one should not be motivated by financial compensation by playing those said games. If I was a player, I would be motivated by the opportunities it may bring...in terms of exposure, experience, and show casing my talent to possible scouts. It would be about no chump change...100/200$us per game...nah man

Like it had a major earthquake rong by you breds.  Yuh goalposts and dem shiftin massively.  Dis is what you originally posted

I go take a beating for what I'm about to say...but I don't think national players should get paid it represent the country. It's a privilege. Win something...as in a tournament, get ah lil raise, house and land...Other than that...it's a privilege and it allows other opportunities to come all yuh way. Just my humble opinion.

NOW yuh lookin to chat bout motivation. 

The players have not received the AGREED UPON remuneration for playing AND beating Panama.  That match was played in March.  We in June.  They still have not been paid.

First you say that players should not be paid to represent the country

Now you bawlin bout they should not be motivated by money to play for the country.

How do you arrive at the players are motivated by money to play for T&T?  Because they upset that the agreement they have between the TTFA and themselves has not been adhered to?  YET AGAIN


I will tell you.....is more likely THE ONLY THING that motivating the players to turn out later today is the pride and honour they feel in representing they country.

But it kinda hard to feel pride and honour when same country have fans like you that does waste dem dong on a constant, that have administration that does not take care of their basic needs.  That have players on national duty kicked out of hotels because the Federation never pay for their stay.  That have players selected on the squad having to be left behind because the plane full and they have to make way for friends of the TTFA President to fly to Argentina with the team.

Pride, privilege, and honour?  It goes both ways.  Or at least supposed to.....and in T&T football....it hardly ever goes to the players.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 08, 2017, 04:17:03 PM
Shaka on ESPN FC tonight taking all kinda licks for suggesting we could pull a point tonight.

God bless him!

Ah come home early waiting for kick off. Board quiet, the tailgate team in Denver send us some images of how its bubbling up nah?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 08, 2017, 04:32:47 PM
Real lix fuh real Shaka taking, but he standing firm.

Shaka say, this isn't the best US team and a nex man say "this isn't the best Trinidad team either". And all ah dem buss out laughing
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: SHOTTA on June 08, 2017, 05:03:32 PM
link???
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Thomo on June 08, 2017, 05:06:04 PM
link???
http://www.hahasports.co/
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 08, 2017, 05:14:40 PM
Starting lineups announced

JM Williams
J Jones
Bateau
Cyrus
Lewis
Hyland
K Jones
Molino
Akhenanton Edwards
M Williams
George
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 08, 2017, 05:37:27 PM
Starting lineups announced

JM Williams
J Jones
Bateau
Cyrus
Lewis
Hyland
K Jones
Molino
Akhenanton Edwards
M Williams
George

who dat?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 08, 2017, 05:40:55 PM
JM Williams
M Williams
Bateau
Cyrus
Akhenanton Edwards???
Joevin Jones
Hyland

 George
Lewis
Molino
Kewyne Jones


Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 08, 2017, 05:41:45 PM
JM Williams
M Williams
Bateau
Cyrus
Akhenanton Edwards???
Joevin Jones
Hyland

 George
Lewis
Molino
Kewyne Jones




Our very own Rolls Royce lol
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Swima on June 08, 2017, 05:41:57 PM
Carlos
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Kingk on June 08, 2017, 05:46:03 PM
Anyone know which TV station the game is going to be on?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: DeSoWa on June 08, 2017, 05:51:08 PM
In the US it's on FS1
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 08, 2017, 05:56:40 PM
Tallman!  Jus see u on tv
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: lefty on June 08, 2017, 06:07:53 PM
look like we playin three at d back
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Socapro on June 08, 2017, 06:08:43 PM
Live YouTube link for USA vs T&T World Cup Qualifier on right now!

https://www.youtube.com/v/6ihzksRoomA
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: lefty on June 08, 2017, 06:12:46 PM
3-5-2
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: elan on June 08, 2017, 06:17:39 PM
wow....Carlos Edwards starting in 2017. 😞

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: elan on June 08, 2017, 06:19:44 PM
We need to show a little urgency and enterprise. The US playing antsy. We need to capitalize on their hesitancy

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Bitter on June 08, 2017, 06:19:52 PM
I now reach, They ent score yet? That is a good sign.

Them unis look like we pick them up in a bargain bin somewhere.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Bitter on June 08, 2017, 06:26:17 PM
Only a matter of time now...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Bitter on June 08, 2017, 06:34:47 PM
That was we chance!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: davyjenny1 on June 08, 2017, 06:40:03 PM
Only a few chances and when you get them one has to make it count.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: elan on June 08, 2017, 06:42:03 PM
Carlos SMH

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: davyjenny1 on June 08, 2017, 06:42:17 PM
Most of our attacks are coming down the left side in the first half, kinda predictable.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 06:44:50 PM
Shaka should earn another national honour for negotiating that abuse.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 06:47:16 PM
We better play through the half time whistle.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 08, 2017, 06:49:49 PM
Half time, it could be worse but the tactics are glaring. US letting us play ourselves out of gas till around the 70th, then they will press and try to blitz.

Really hope we could hold it together. I think we are finally getting the formation that works best for us. Plus to DL on that.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 08, 2017, 06:53:16 PM
Not a bad half, a few observations:
Finally we're supplying crosses in the area, kudos to Carlos
Good ball possession, now we need urgency with penetrative passes
Better clearances in the defensive third. A few times we cleared the ball just outside our box when we could've cleared it in their half!
Hyland needs to change his boots, slipping too much at critical times and in dangerous positions
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Socapro on June 08, 2017, 06:53:32 PM
Pet peeve I have with our T&T national team. We throw away the ball to our opponents much too often on throw-ins!!  :frustrated:

Anyway its 0-0 after the first half. If we don't run out of stream in the second half and can create some more chances and put our chances away then we can get something out of this game.

I would expect USA to come out with more attacking purpose in the second half and we need to attack them with more intent to score in the 2nd half if we plan to get something out of this game and turn around our qualifying chances.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: lefty on June 08, 2017, 06:56:02 PM
Half time, it could be worse but the tactics are glaring. US letting us play ourselves out of gas till around the 70th, then they will press and try to blitz.

Really hope we could hold it together. I think we are finally getting the formation that works best for us. Plus to DL on that.



this .......we jus have to watch if USA switch to 4-4-2 with pace up front 3-4-3/3-5-2 susceptible to dat...we CBs have some pace though so.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Bitter on June 08, 2017, 07:09:52 PM
Game done
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 07:10:07 PM
Not a bad half, a few observations:
Finally we're supplying crosses in the area, kudos to Carlos
Good ball possession, now we need urgency with penetrative passes
Better clearances in the defensive third. A few times we cleared the ball just outside our box when we could've cleared it in their half!
Hyland needs to change his boots, slipping too much at critical times and in dangerous positions

And someone committed to run at the US. Oops. Pulisic scores.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 08, 2017, 07:11:02 PM
The goal came from sloppiness from Hyland
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 07:11:23 PM
Ah find Khaleem looks a lil heavy.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: lefty on June 08, 2017, 07:12:50 PM
dat was marginally onside
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Trini Madness on June 08, 2017, 07:14:07 PM
I thought that was onside....lawd...Next goal taken away smh
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 07:18:23 PM
Something has to be wrong when Jan could get to the ball twice from the ground faster than men standing up. However, Jan was fouled and the ref didn't look inclined to call Jozy's contact as a foul on that play in which Jan stayed on the ground.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Bitter on June 08, 2017, 07:19:40 PM
Game done
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 07:21:01 PM
Well, yeah! Whatever Just Cool posted ...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 07:21:34 PM
Subs needed.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: lefty on June 08, 2017, 07:21:50 PM
kenwin lost d ball and jus stand up.... counter attack goal....steups....why men does stop playin when attacks break down
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 07:23:44 PM
Hyland is NOT a free kick taker. Why do we persist with that option?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 07:25:48 PM
Joevin off? ???
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: chelsealife on June 08, 2017, 07:27:21 PM
Joevin off? ???
He's not having a good game
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: MEP on June 08, 2017, 07:27:39 PM
this shitty 3-5-2 didn't work for Everton and it EH wukkiin for TnT....I'm beginning t think Lawrence is tactically challenged.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: elan on June 08, 2017, 07:27:48 PM
Subbed Joevin Jones?

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: chelsealife on June 08, 2017, 07:28:16 PM
this shitty 3-5-2 didn't work for Everton and it wukkiin for TnT....I'm beginning t think Lawrence is tactically challenged.
beginning to? Lol
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: MEP on June 08, 2017, 07:29:05 PM
this shitty 3-5-2 didn't work for Everton and it wukkiin for TnT....I'm beginning t think Lawrence is tactically challenged.
beginning to? Lol
it eh wukkin..my bad
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: elan on June 08, 2017, 07:29:54 PM
If Carlos Edwards starting in yuh team, yuh know things have to be tight

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Bitter on June 08, 2017, 07:33:38 PM
If the us playing like this, they will get licks from Mexico
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: lefty on June 08, 2017, 07:37:57 PM
Subbed Joevin Jones?

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barely made any run and he didn't get time to adapt to d altitude....mls pull ah territorial advantage and hold on to joevin til d last possible minute
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: MEP on June 08, 2017, 07:50:39 PM
Would Cato have made a difference. Embarassing ah have to hear dem fricking white boy who cyah coach dey way out of a paperbag talk about this crap now,
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Bitter on June 08, 2017, 07:50:42 PM
My prediction was 3 or 4 - nil, so I guess we exceed expectations.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 08, 2017, 07:54:56 PM
Tallman!  Jus see u on tv
Yea Tallman was one of the highlights tonight
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 08, 2017, 07:56:48 PM
_________i feel deflated. Man if kenwyne had put away that chance...game would have been different. That goal Nathan Lewis score wasn't offside eeedah...must win in CR now...that's just the black and white off it.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 08, 2017, 07:57:24 PM
Now we will hear bout Pulisic for the next 3 months
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Bitter on June 08, 2017, 07:57:53 PM
Now to see how long before somebody mention the dictator  :devil:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 08, 2017, 07:58:20 PM
Now to see how long before somebody mention the dictator  :devil:
:rotfl:
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 07:58:29 PM
Joevin off? ???
He's not having a good game

Yeah, I see where he was deficient. A step off at times. But he also created chances. What did we get from his replacement? Added value? A lift to the tempo? More energy? What?

Sometimes you have to let players like Joevin grow into the match.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 08, 2017, 07:59:41 PM
That Lewis goal they called back for offside was covfefe
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 08, 2017, 08:00:04 PM
Overmatched tonight, the US tactics were just as i thought.

Happens to us every time.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: 100% Barataria on June 08, 2017, 08:03:02 PM
Is like JC say...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: che on June 08, 2017, 08:11:19 PM
Only saw the last 35min of the game. T&T is not as bad as the record shows but we are running out of time. We still in with a chance for forth. if we string together a few wins then we right back in it.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 08, 2017, 08:19:24 PM
It's frustrating as a fan. We play a pretty decent knock. But we just don't get the ball in the net...this is where quality friendlies come in...we need a miracle in CR. The US was not spectacular except for pulisic
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 08:19:46 PM
Would Cato have made a difference. Embarassing ah have to hear dem fricking white boy who cyah coach dey way out of a paperbag talk about this crap now,

Someone to run at them? Yeah. Otherwise, perhaps not. But I like him like that when he's outside coming in or inside going across the face of the goal. Other than that ...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 08, 2017, 08:22:17 PM
It's frustrating as a fan. We play a pretty decent knock. But we just don't get the ball in the net...this is where quality friendlies come in...we need a miracle in CR. The US was not spectacular except for pulisic

Well, Pulisic scored!

Also, they didn't need to be spectacular to beat us. So ...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Sando prince on June 08, 2017, 08:59:54 PM

Well no surprise tonight for me. I see iz d same ole same ole when T&T play the US 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: frico on June 09, 2017, 05:00:27 AM
We still not out of it,there's a slim chance for 4th.We looked good and had we got the goal by KJ,and had Nathan Lewis not been ruled off side,who knows,as I would say,we matched the mighty USA and that was pleasing,but we didn't get the result we wanted.When your chances come you must take it,they don't come every minute,we look soft in front of goal.Edwards went for goal,when the best option was a cross to Lewis or Molino,that was a shocker,someone is not smiling on us.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on June 09, 2017, 05:46:11 AM
We still not out of it,there's a slim chance for 4th.We looked good and had we got the goal by KJ,and had Nathan Lewis not been ruled off side,who knows,as I would say,we matched the mighty USA and that was pleasing,but we didn't get the result we wanted.When your chances come you must take it,they don't come every minute,we look soft in front of goal.Edwards went for goal,when the best option was a cross to Lewis or Molino,that was a shocker,someone is not smiling on us.

Boy you spot on with that analysis. We don't appear to be outdone by these teams, CR, MEX and US...the only real thumping we got in this campaign was from Honduras. Other than that Honduras game, we weren't outclassed at all. Goals win matches and that's the bottom line.

Carlos know he effed up with that shot instead of passing the ball... everyone knew it. What a shame. Carlos did play pretty well last night though. Hyland made some mistakes and that first goal was his fault. I like Nathan, he has a lot of potential, but he gets outmanned...Molino tried his best last night.

George was not ready for pulisic it seemed. He have the wonder boy too much space.

Costa Rica gonna be a real scrap, with the odds against us. This is where our maturity and professionalism gonna come into play. They drew against Panama last night, which stacks up even more against us.

I hope to see the boys regroup and continue to believe that they can get result. They can!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 09, 2017, 06:17:02 AM
We still not out of it,there's a slim chance for 4th.We looked good and had we got the goal by KJ,and had Nathan Lewis not been ruled off side,who knows,as I would say,we matched the mighty USA and that was pleasing,but we didn't get the result we wanted.When your chances come you must take it,they don't come every minute,we look soft in front of goal.Edwards went for goal,when the best option was a cross to Lewis or Molino,that was a shocker,someone is not smiling on us.

Boy you spot on with that analysis. We don't appear to be outdone by these teams, CR, MEX and US...the only real thumping we got in this campaign was from Honduras. Other than that Honduras game, we weren't outclassed at all. Goals win matches and that's the bottom line.

Carlos know he effed up with that shot instead of passing the ball... everyone knew it. What a shame. Carlos did play pretty well last night though. Hyland made some mistakes and that first goal was his fault. I like Nathan, he has a lot of potential, but he gets outmanned...Molino tried his best last night.

George was not ready for pulisic it seemed. He have the wonder boy too much space.

Costa Rica gonna be a real scrap, with the odds against us. This is where our maturity and professionalism gonna come into play. They drew against Panama last night, which stacks up even more against us.

I hope to see the boys regroup and continue to believe that they can get result. They can!

It's the only area I will give the technical staff some stick. Pulisic key attribute is speed and Kevan George had a man marking job shadowing him most of the game but I would have gone for Gonsalves or even Paul as they have a bit more speed to stay with Pulisic but George is favoured given he is a better passer and with 3 CBs you have the cover for him running behind, still got away from us. 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: elan on June 09, 2017, 09:28:03 AM
We should have taken advantage in the early stages when the US seemed to be caught off guard by our setup on the field.

 We should have gone for the jugular then, but instead, you can hear shouts of "keep it, keep it" from our bench.

Mindset. A will to win. We lack those. The minute Lawrence saw that hesitation he should have gone for it. Not try to establish a level of play at that point.

Lawrence is to blame for the loss. He had US to hang and he let his idealistic approach to the game overshadow the practical demands that were present.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 09, 2017, 09:53:56 AM
We still not out of it,there's a slim chance for 4th.We looked good and had we got the goal by KJ,and had Nathan Lewis not been ruled off side,who knows,as I would say,we matched the mighty USA and that was pleasing,but we didn't get the result we wanted.When your chances come you must take it,they don't come every minute,we look soft in front of goal.Edwards went for goal,when the best option was a cross to Lewis or Molino,that was a shocker,someone is not smiling on us.

Boy you spot on with that analysis. We don't appear to be outdone by these teams, CR, MEX and US...the only real thumping we got in this campaign was from Honduras. Other than that Honduras game, we weren't outclassed at all. Goals win matches and that's the bottom line.

Carlos know he effed up with that shot instead of passing the ball... everyone knew it. What a shame. Carlos did play pretty well last night though. Hyland made some mistakes and that first goal was his fault. I like Nathan, he has a lot of potential, but he gets outmanned...Molino tried his best last night.

George was not ready for pulisic it seemed. He have the wonder boy too much space.

Costa Rica gonna be a real scrap, with the odds against us. This is where our maturity and professionalism gonna come into play. They drew against Panama last night, which stacks up even more against us.

I hope to see the boys regroup and continue to believe that they can get result. They can!

It's the only area I will give the technical staff some stick. Pulisic key attribute is speed and Kevan George had a man marking job shadowing him most of the game but I would have gone for Gonsalves or even Paul as they have a bit more speed to stay with Pulisic but George is favoured given he is a better passer and with 3 CBs you have the cover for him running behind, still got away from us.

Raised this very issue in a separate discussion, but framed it differently. Part of the issue is highlighted if one compares the player's ability to interrupt play when the ball is in front of him versus his recovery speed/read of movement not immediately in front of him.

Could a correction have been made that kept George on the field (to benefit from his positives while adjusting for the problem)?

The balance in the center of the park presents a challenge when neither player can deliver a penetrating vertical pass. Not effective football when you have a player in an advanced position showing for an entry ball or available for one.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 09, 2017, 10:06:43 AM
The game was going towards us at the end of the first half. We actually had a chance. Performance is not that bad. Just 2 mistakes  cost the game.

Molino played his heart out.

Ticos  tied Panama last night in San Jose. We can get a result.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Trini _2026 on June 09, 2017, 11:03:01 AM
The game was going towards us at the end of the first half. We actually had a chance. Performance is not that bad. Just 2 mistakes  cost the game.

Molino played his heart out.

Ticos  tied Panama last night in San Jose. We can get a result.

10 man ticos
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 09, 2017, 11:31:47 AM
That Lewis goal they called back for offside was covfefe

Quote
EXPLAINING THE OFFSIDE LAW: LAW 11

The offside law (Law 11) is the most argued-over law wherever in the world the game of football is played, even though it’s pretty simple. Here’s how it works.

A player is caught offside if he’s nearer to the opponents’ goal than both the ball and the second-last opponent when his team-mate plays the ball. In other words, a player can’t receive the ball from a team-mate unless there are at least two players either level with him or between him and the goal.

It is not an offence in itself to be offside. A player is only penalised for being offside if he is deemed to be involved in active play. So a player can only be called offside if he is:

In the opposition’s half.
Interfering with play (that is, he’s part of the attacking move).
Interfering with an opponent (that is, he’s preventing the opponent from defending against the attacking move).
Gaining any advantage by being in that position.
A player cannot be offside from a goal kick, throw in or corner.

SOURCE (http://www.dummies.com/sports/football/football-for-dummies-cheat-sheet-uk-edition/)

I thought if the player was level with the last defender, it's not offside.  How it was explained to me is that  "level" does not mean "feet level".

If the attacker's feet and the last defender's feet are level, but the attacker's body, head, or even arm are ahead of the last defender, it is offside.

Looked to me that when the ball was played, Lewis' feet were level with the last defender....but his torso and head were slightly ahead of the last defender.  If that interpretation of the law is correct, then to me, the correct call was made by the referee's assistant.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 09, 2017, 11:50:58 AM
I have to watch that replay because Fox showed it very briefly and it looked to me as if his body was level with the defender when the ball was played. It looked like he was still onside but I'll like to see it again to be fair and unbiased.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 09, 2017, 12:11:49 PM
I have to watch that replay because Fox showed it very briefly and it looked to me as if his body was level with the defender when the ball was played. It looked like he was still onside but I'll like to see it again to be fair and unbiased.

To be sure....it was VERY close.

He coulda gi we de bligh.

If was US...they might have well gotten the goal. 

But based on when the ball was played and Lewis' positioning.....if that interpretation is correct...he was just off....

SUCKS!
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: maxg on June 09, 2017, 01:11:19 PM
Coaching staff don't need Stern or Sol. Look at the goals again, actually not just the goals but all game, poor coverage, reaction instead of proaction, the boys adjusted well and made up with athleticism but not smart or coached defending..The 1st goal 2 US men fling dey body and our guys hold up waiting for Jan to save again...look at when we did attack(counter), forwards without supporting cast..unless we made a build up or Hyland fanned out long to JJ, who was surprisingly given lots of space, yet the times he was presented with one defender, either shot from outside or tried to square in most cases, we need to JJ to take on in every 1V1, to at least absorb and pull multiple covers, freeing the ONE or TWO (since it's all we seem able to muster) of our players in the box. Yes we possessed better, but the possession was mostly sterile and US just calmly waited for us to prematurely ejaculate oops..falter

add: tactics, many knew the men most likely to score for US would be Pulisic and Altidore, but didn't look like we were not to worried, some ONE had them..meanwhile our offensive players seemed to be surround by MANY, except in JJ's case..which was quite strange to me
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 09, 2017, 03:51:53 PM
Coaching staff don't need Stern or Sol. Look at the goals again, actually not just the goals but all game, poor coverage, reaction instead of proaction, the boys adjusted well and made up with athleticism but not smart or coached defending..The 1st goal 2 US men fling dey body and our guys hold up waiting for Jan to save again...look at when we did attack(counter), forwards without supporting cast..unless we made a build up or Hyland fanned out long to JJ, who was surprisingly given lots of space, yet the times he was presented with one defender, either shot from outside or tried to square in most cases, we need to JJ to take on in every 1V1, to at least absorb and pull multiple covers, freeing the ONE or TWO (since it's all we seem able to muster) of our players in the box. Yes we possessed better, but the possession was mostly sterile and US just calmly waited for us to prematurely ejaculate oops..falter

add: tactics, many knew the men most likely to score for US would be Pulisic and Altidore, but didn't look like we were not to worried, some ONE had them..meanwhile our offensive players seemed to be surround by MANY, except in JJ's case..which was quite strange to me

And what about de other Mister?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: maxg on June 09, 2017, 05:32:45 PM
Coaching staff don't need Stern or Sol. Look at the goals again, actually not just the goals but all game, poor coverage, reaction instead of proaction, the boys adjusted well and made up with athleticism but not smart or coached defending..The 1st goal 2 US men fling dey body and our guys hold up waiting for Jan to save again...look at when we did attack(counter), forwards without supporting cast..unless we made a build up or Hyland fanned out long to JJ, who was surprisingly given lots of space, yet the times he was presented with one defender, either shot from outside or tried to square in most cases, we need to JJ to take on in every 1V1, to at least absorb and pull multiple covers, freeing the ONE or TWO (since it's all we seem able to muster) of our players in the box. Yes we possessed better, but the possession was mostly sterile and US just calmly waited for us to prematurely ejaculate oops..falter

add: tactics, many knew the men most likely to score for US would be Pulisic and Altidore, but didn't look like we were not to worried, some ONE had them..meanwhile our offensive players seemed to be surround by MANY, except in JJ's case..which was quite strange to me

And what about de other Mister?
I honestly can't say, as I don't rightly know what his strengths are, but since he is the only one that actually coaches a team locally, we should keep him for the experience.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 09, 2017, 05:59:35 PM

And what about de other Mister?
I honestly can't say, as I don't rightly know what his strengths are, but since he is the only one that actually coaches a team locally, we should keep him for the experience.

Well said DJW  ;)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: kounty on June 09, 2017, 06:05:05 PM
I cyah fault the boys effort on the day but I feel them two goals is the result of not having played any practice match. simple things like mekhael take a step to the man on top and curtis didn't cover mekhael's man for him - pulisic 2nd...that kinda split second thinking that get punished every time could only come from playing a proper level friendly.

By the way did they ever say the result of the second match against Boulder FC? Did they blatantly lie abut rapids or did they really play them? It seems like the team on a serious media leash and is only polished responses coming out from them. Like only Lasana does ask any hard questions.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: injunchile on June 09, 2017, 06:22:20 PM
I guess the altitude had something to do with the pedestrian passing. I liked what I saw and with a little bit of luck we could have gotten something from this game. if Carlos  had taken on men on a one to one
 we could have looked a little dangerous on the Counter. I was a little disappointed on the slow counter attack that was so productive against Mexico, under Hart. Not comparing Coaches just an observation.
 From this W/C journey we seem to be able to compete with the big boys, We do need someone to put the ball in the back of the Net. Fourth place is possible.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 09, 2017, 06:45:39 PM
I cyah fault the boys effort on the day but I feel them two goals is the result of not having played any practice match. simple things like mekhael take a step to the man on top and curtis didn't cover mekhael's man for him - pulisic 2nd...that kinda split second thinking that get punished every time could only come from playing a proper level friendly.

By the way did they ever say the result of the second match against Boulder FC? Did they blatantly lie abut rapids or did they really play them? It seems like the team on a serious media leash and is only polished responses coming out from them. Like only Lasana does ask any hard questions.

USA first goal.

Disgraceful giveaway by Khaleem Hyland in our own half when we were stroking the ball around.

He was both lazy and lost concentration and Bradley teef de ball easy easy.  Cyrus rush een and hoof de ball downfield to Nagbe

Nagbe gets the ball and runs into our midfield.  Hyland (AGAIN) makes a half hearted effort at a tackle and Nagby easily brushes him aside.  Plays a give and go....collect....passes the ball wide....wide man plays the ball along the ground close to our central defenders....Pulisic runs FREE with NOBODY on him to pass the ball into the net.

The goal had several defensive lapses.  The initial giveaway was horrendous. But Hyland's failure to foul Nagbe when he was running at the defence was unforgiveable.  That should have been a classic example of a "tactical foul".  Far enough outside the area to break up the play and give your defence time to recover.

These men supposed to be professionals.  That was amateur to the extreme.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Fensic on June 09, 2017, 08:16:15 PM
I have to watch that replay because Fox showed it very briefly and it looked to me as if his body was level with the defender when the ball was played. It looked like he was still onside but I'll like to see it again to be fair and unbiased.


I got a screen grab showing the moment the pass was made. As much as I hate to admit, it wasn't even close. He was offside. Two of them actually.

Still, that play and the one where Kenwyne headed onto the cross-bar should be consistent options in the Warrior's offensive repertoire.

I have seen T&T score off similar plays under Hart. They are devastating because they come off runs from outside the box into open space in the box; they are tough to defend as they are usually the result of very few touches so there is practically no build up and the result are goals out of what looks like nothing.

Even if the defense goes with the man making the run, there's always the possibility of it being a dummy run.

This business of one attacker trying to get around multiple defenders on the ground stopped working when I played football and look how long ago that was. It died when marking space replaced man to man inside the box. Plus, T&T players can be notorious ball watchers when the man with the ball takes on multiple defenders. Yet, when they do try to help is like the man wid de ball does say, "doh worry, I have dis", and keep forcing his way. All a good defender has to do his guide him to a bad angle for a low percentage shot which Trinis seem to always take for some strange reason.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Deeks on June 09, 2017, 11:17:14 PM
I got a screen grab showing the moment the pass was made. As much as I hate to admit, it wasn't even close. He was offside. Two of them actually.

Fensic, you right. But KJ looked more off-side than Lewis. Nathan was very close, like a shoulder. KJ was a again off-side when he whipped a a quick grounder across the goal. Like I posted in a another thread, had the US scored one like that, it would have stood.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 10, 2017, 05:26:53 AM
I got a screen grab showing the moment the pass was made. As much as I hate to admit, it wasn't even close. He was offside. Two of them actually.

Still, that play and the one where Kenwyne headed onto the cross-bar should be consistent options in the Warrior's offensive repertoire.

I have seen T&T score off similar plays under Hart. They are devastating because they come off runs from outside the box into open space in the box; they are tough to defend as they are usually the result of very few touches so there is practically no build up and the result are goals out of what looks like nothing.

Even if the defense goes with the man making the run, there's always the possibility of it being a dummy run.

This business of one attacker trying to get around multiple defenders on the ground stopped working when I played football and look how long ago that was. It died when marking space replaced man to man inside the box. Plus, T&T players can be notorious ball watchers when the man with the ball takes on multiple defenders. Yet, when they do try to help is like the man wid de ball does say, "doh worry, I have dis", and keep forcing his way. All a good defender has to do his guide him to a bad angle for a low percentage shot which Trinis seem to always take for some strange reason.

Enjoyed reading this (the entire post).

I haven't reviewed the second half yet, so I'll reserve comment on the offside situation ... but just finished reviewing the first half. It definitely provides a prologue for what happened next.

There's much to what you state. What I would like to read more about is the assertion regarding "marking space versus man to man inside the box" ...

Give us a follow-up?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 10, 2017, 05:54:32 AM
Coaching staff don't need Stern or Sol. Look at the goals again, actually not just the goals but all game, poor coverage, reaction instead of proaction, the boys adjusted well and made up with athleticism but not smart or coached defending.. The 1st goal 2 US men fling dey body and our guys hold up waiting for Jan to save again...look at when we did attack(counter), forwards without supporting cast..unless we made a build up or Hyland fanned out long to JJ, who was surprisingly given lots of space, yet the times he was presented with one defender, either shot from outside or tried to square in most cases, we need to JJ to take on in every 1V1, to at least absorb and pull multiple covers, freeing the ONE or TWO (since it's all we seem able to muster) of our players in the box. Yes we possessed better, but the possession was mostly sterile and US just calmly waited for us to prematurely ejaculate oops..falter

add: tactics, many knew the men most likely to score for US would be Pulisic and Altidore, but didn't look like we were not to worried, some ONE had them ..meanwhile our offensive players seemed to be surround by MANY, except in JJ's case..which was quite strange to me

Boss post before yuh touch "sterile". After "sterile" yuh went positively stratospheric.

Some of the coordination in defence that was lauded on the previous match dates went out the window, but even if we accept that Sol is redundant, where do you see Stern as being surplus to needs specifically? I think you should flesh that out for us some more with the same quality as your first chapter.

From sterile possession what could Stern do?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Deeks on June 10, 2017, 05:59:15 AM
Except for those 2 lapses, I find the defending was above decent. But be honest . We set we self  up for pressure. But we could not  high pressure because of the altitude. Jan-Michael was a beast Thursday night. If was not for those timely saves we good for 4. Again we have to take we chances and put them away. If that Nathan Lewis goal had stand and/or KJ had scored, it may have been a different outcome. I honestly feel we not ready for Russia. We have some very good players. But right now we need about 5 great players at most, 3 at least to make a challenge for Concacaf. We have to improve immensely.

See allyuh in Qatar. That is if  those knuckleheads don't go to war. If they do go to war, see you in London.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 10, 2017, 06:05:09 AM

And what about de other Mister?
I honestly can't say, as I don't rightly know what his strengths are, but since he is the only one that actually coaches a team locally, we should keep him for the experience.

Well said DJW  ;)

Their ... SCF and DJW ... obvious contribution is having restored Cyrus to the CB role ... with a dose of vindication.

But after that, how many local players were on the field? And where?

Stern coaches a local team too, eh ... to be fair.

It is hard to get a read on SCF in this picture.



Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Storeboy on June 11, 2017, 05:52:09 AM
There is no question in my mind that we are as good as the US except for the depth of our squad. With fewer players to select from, as a result of their pool being 300 times larger than ours, we have to make every opportunity count. The success of the team will be determined by its preparation.

1. We cannot become a great team when our preparation does not include frequent matched against quality opponents.
2. Playing club teams and intrasquad games are not valuable. (The US plays up to 10 internationals friendlies per year)
3. Spending several days in Denver was helpful otherwise it would probably have been 6:0. (If you haven't played or exercised at altitude, then you wouldn't understand.)
4. I agree with Coach Lawrence. We got the tactics right but gave up the ball too easily.
5. Decision making.  There were too many times good passes were made in the box and players were going the other way or not anticipating the thru-passes. The more a team plays together and understands each other's runs and movement, the more likely it is that the correct decisions will be made on the field.

Qualification now seems unlikely, unless we can pull off a string of victories. If we lose against CR, it is time to start looking at our best under-20 players and begin the development of the squad with an eye to 2022.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: ffisback on June 11, 2017, 07:28:44 AM
If S Hart was the coach T&T would have gotten 6 to 7 goals  the coach's from England making D Lawrence look good because from the decisions he's making clearly he does not know what he is doing.

The team playing more compact teams have to work hard to break them down I like how S Bateau had J Altidore under manners no cheap highlight wheels this time around but this team would not score goals playing that type of football.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: maxg on June 11, 2017, 10:36:38 AM
Coaching staff don't need Stern or Sol. Look at the goals again, actually not just the goals but all game, poor coverage, reaction instead of proaction, the boys adjusted well and made up with athleticism but not smart or coached defending.. The 1st goal 2 US men fling dey body and our guys hold up waiting for Jan to save again...look at when we did attack(counter), forwards without supporting cast..unless we made a build up or Hyland fanned out long to JJ, who was surprisingly given lots of space, yet the times he was presented with one defender, either shot from outside or tried to square in most cases, we need to JJ to take on in every 1V1, to at least absorb and pull multiple covers, freeing the ONE or TWO (since it's all we seem able to muster) of our players in the box. Yes we possessed better, but the possession was mostly sterile and US just calmly waited for us to prematurely ejaculate oops..falter

add: tactics, many knew the men most likely to score for US would be Pulisic and Altidore, but didn't look like we were not to worried, some ONE had them ..meanwhile our offensive players seemed to be surround by MANY, except in JJ's case..which was quite strange to me

Boss post before yuh touch "sterile". After "sterile" yuh went positively stratospheric.

Some of the coordination in defence that was lauded on the previous match dates went out the window, but even if we accept that Sol is redundant, where do you see Stern as being surplus to needs specifically? I think you should flesh that out for us some more with the same quality as your first chapter.

From sterile possession what could Stern do?
Well i would think that a full supporting midfield cast should be able to add a few options. Thus the lone forward must be coached and practiced to hold up giving them the opportunity to advance, once involved, then cross runs from forwards with a possible "Stern turn" if the opportunity present itself, if forwards are stil marked with diagonal or change position runs, then outside shooting from midfielders would be in order, which in turn will eventually free up forwards for poaching...but bottom line, is we need to be able to advantage the one V one situations to creat space...this is I think is what possession passing is used for, to create such opportunities..but if we just knock to keep possession and not using that possession to create a advantaged situation, then we must be up by 2 or 3 goals..something like what the US was doing to us. The stern query, is simply because, besides the more square balls from the wings,where we almost scored 2 goals, something which we all here were calling for since 2006 or the beginning of "we feel we reach" syndrome. I saw nothing new from our players that indicate they had a Stern John influence. Sterninho was especially effective in the 1 V 2, as a center forward, mastering the presented goal scoring opportunities, but if we don't have a supporting cast to give those passes as it presents itself, so the center forward can have an opportunity to make this type of play, unless i missed it..what was his actual contribution, did you see an influence ? or was my anticipation after a couple days of instruction to much ?
    Closest I saw to a stern influence was Hyland, and this was mostly to make a non-threatning pass to JJ, who looked liked he was playing under pressure with a bellywuk, he, our current best player(imo), hardly stopped anyone(williams did most of the running) or instilled fear only in maybe the ball boys.. I'm certain he will be better next outing...even "The Mummy" had more life, even with 3/4 the talent.
  Thus my comment, maybe Stern can contribute at some point, when we can actually attack against compact defences as a team, consequently looks like a Yorke or even a Eve might have more to offer, I can't speak for their offensive coaching ability, just thinking of the type of game they themselves played.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 11, 2017, 10:49:07 AM
Ah hearing yuh loud and clear. No static.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 11, 2017, 11:00:57 AM
If S Hart was the coach T&T would have gotten 6 to 7 goals  the coach's from England making D Lawrence look good because from the decisions he's making clearly he does not know what he is doing.

The team playing more compact teams have to work hard to break them down I like how S Bateau had J Altidore under manners no cheap highlight wheels this time around but this team would not score goals playing that type of football.

Saintfiet would have had us invent a new counting system.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: sub1 on June 11, 2017, 01:10:18 PM
Except for those 2 lapses, I find the defending was above decent. But be honest . We set we self  up for pressure. But we could not  high pressure because of the altitude. Jan-Michael was a beast Thursday night. If was not for those timely saves we good for 4. Again we have to take we chances and put them away. If that Nathan Lewis goal had stand and/or KJ had scored, it may have been a different outcome. I honestly feel we not ready for Russia. We have some very good players. But right now we need about 5 great players at most, 3 at least to make a challenge for Concacaf. We have to improve immensely.

See allyuh in Qatar. That is if  those knuckleheads don't go to war. If they do go to war, see you in London.
I was pleasantly surprised with our game! Bateau, imo, is above a very good player and, I never thought the day would come when I could say this but, even Cyrus is playing well. Under Hart he was just awful. Maybe wing back is just not his thing. However, I must say that that my patience is wearing thin with Hyland. For a player supposedly of his stature, he loses/gives up the ball way to easily. Nathan Lewis , with a few more games, may get my nod as an automatic starter. Carlos is belying his age but has lost his ability to run past his markers. JJ was just out of it. Kenwyn should have scored, so too Molino, who had possibly the best game I have seen with him in national colors. Jan was a beast except for the second goal and Merkiel was decent on the night.

I would like to know what is the romance that national coaches have with the little short man from W connection who is supposedly a striker.

Call me crazy but I expect a better result in Costa Rica!! We should be able to adapt more readily to their high altitude.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 11, 2017, 01:40:14 PM
I regard the defending as poor and porous collectively, but possessed of the salvation of individual moments of rescue.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Controversial on June 11, 2017, 01:48:33 PM
If S Hart was the coach T&T would have gotten 6 to 7 goals  the coach's from England making D Lawrence look good because from the decisions he's making clearly he does not know what he is doing.

The team playing more compact teams have to work hard to break them down I like how S Bateau had J Altidore under manners no cheap highlight wheels this time around but this team would not score goals playing that type of football.

Wow, you're advocating for Hart?

Change of Hart perhaps? LoL
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: davyjenny1 on June 11, 2017, 03:00:22 PM

I must say that that my patience is wearing thin with Hyland.


I echo the same sentiment
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: ffisback on June 11, 2017, 03:35:00 PM
If S Hart was the coach T&T would have gotten 6 to 7 goals  the coach's from England making D Lawrence look good because from the decisions he's making clearly he does not know what he is doing.

The team playing more compact teams have to work hard to break them down I like how S Bateau had J Altidore under manners no cheap highlight wheels this time around but this team would not score goals playing that type of football.

Wow, you're advocating for Hart?

Change of Hart perhaps? LoL
Only Z Vanes or F Maturana can save this team.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 11, 2017, 07:12:51 PM

I must say that that my patience is wearing thin with Hyland.


I echo the same sentiment

Hyland makes mistakes but i not sure if we have any real quality replacement at this time.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Brownsugar on June 11, 2017, 07:23:18 PM

I must say that that my patience is wearing thin with Hyland.


I echo the same sentiment

Hyland makes mistakes but i not sure if we have any real quality replacement at this time.
Co-sign......

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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: soccerman on June 11, 2017, 09:12:58 PM
It will be good if we can get a lil run down from any of the forumites that attended the game on the positives they noticed first hand.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: pull stones on June 12, 2017, 12:09:15 AM

I must say that that my patience is wearing thin with Hyland.


I echo the same sentiment

Hyland makes mistakes but i not sure if we have any real quality replacement at this time.
excuse me for interjecting but i get the feeling that many of you don't realize the magnificent contributions of khaleem hyland on this team. and so what if he loses the ball now and then most CM do lose possession from time to time that is normal in the game of football, they also make bad passes and foolish tackles that position is not a pretty one.

I have noticed quite often how hyland's detractors miss the positive contribution but highlight the mistakes. .No one talks about the plays that he breaks up the the midfield, his movement off the ball his professional fouls (something we didn't do prior to hyland which lead to a lot of break away goals) his ability to make dangerous attacking passes that lead to quite a few goals in the lead up to the hex.

people seem to forget that we have the least amount of quality of any team in the hex and a player such as hyland may struggle on this team but would probably flourish on a better team alongside better players. Ok he made a blunder that lead to the first goal but no one saw how Cyrus was ball watching instead of picking an unmarked player, maybe if other players were in tuned with the rest of the team they would have done the smart thing and took down nagbe and take a card for the team rather than allowing him to make the cross that lead to the goal.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Controversial on June 12, 2017, 01:56:27 AM

I must say that that my patience is wearing thin with Hyland.


I echo the same sentiment

Hyland makes mistakes but i not sure if we have any real quality replacement at this time.
excuse me for interjecting but i get the feeling that many of you don't realize the magnificent contributions of khaleem hyland on this team. and so what if he loses the ball now and then most CM do lose possession from time to time that is normal in the game of football, they also make bad passes and foolish tackles that position is not a pretty one.

I have noticed quite often how hyland's detractors miss the positive contribution but highlight the mistakes. .No one talks about the plays that he breaks up the the midfield, his movement off the ball his professional fouls (something we didn't do prior to hyland which lead to a lot of break away goals) his ability to make dangerous attacking passes that lead to quite a few goals in the lead up to the hex.

people seem to forget that we have the least amount of quality of any team in the hex and a player such as hyland may struggle on this team but would probably flourish on a better team alongside better players. Ok he made a blunder that lead to the first goal but no one saw how Cyrus was ball watching instead of picking an unmarked player, maybe if other players were in tuned with the rest of the team they would have done the smart thing and took down nagbe and take a card for the team rather than allowing him to make the cross that lead to the goal.

What are you, his godfather?

Hyland is not an intl, he's a club baller, that's it..

Practice champ.. I would bench him for the rest of the campaign
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Marcos on June 12, 2017, 09:13:00 AM

I must say that that my patience is wearing thin with Hyland.


I echo the same sentiment

Hyland makes mistakes but i not sure if we have any real quality replacement at this time.
excuse me for interjecting but i get the feeling that many of you don't realize the magnificent contributions of khaleem hyland on this team. and so what if he loses the ball now and then most CM do lose possession from time to time that is normal in the game of football, they also make bad passes and foolish tackles that position is not a pretty one.

I have noticed quite often how hyland's detractors miss the positive contribution but highlight the mistakes. .No one talks about the plays that he breaks up the the midfield, his movement off the ball his professional fouls (something we didn't do prior to hyland which lead to a lot of break away goals) his ability to make dangerous attacking passes that lead to quite a few goals in the lead up to the hex.

people seem to forget that we have the least amount of quality of any team in the hex and a player such as hyland may struggle on this team but would probably flourish on a better team alongside better players. Ok he made a blunder that lead to the first goal but no one saw how Cyrus was ball watching instead of picking an unmarked player, maybe if other players were in tuned with the rest of the team they would have done the smart thing and took down nagbe and take a card for the team rather than allowing him to make the cross that lead to the goal.

What are you, his godfather?

Hyland is not an intl, he's a club baller, that's it..

Practice champ.. I would bench him for the rest of the campaign

Hyland has good qualities, but his touch is heavy and he gives away possession too easily to be a center midfielder we can rely on. Maybe try him wider, further up field, or in the back. But playing him is a deep lying center mid is asking for trouble. This is not the first time his loss of possession has directly led to a goal. I wonder how come Boucaud can't get a bligh?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: g on June 12, 2017, 10:39:49 AM

I must say that that my patience is wearing thin with Hyland.


I echo the same sentiment

Hyland makes mistakes but i not sure if we have any real quality replacement at this time.
excuse me for interjecting but i get the feeling that many of you don't realize the magnificent contributions of khaleem hyland on this team. and so what if he loses the ball now and then most CM do lose possession from time to time that is normal in the game of football, they also make bad passes and foolish tackles that position is not a pretty one.

I have noticed quite often how hyland's detractors miss the positive contribution but highlight the mistakes. .No one talks about the plays that he breaks up the the midfield, his movement off the ball his professional fouls (something we didn't do prior to hyland which lead to a lot of break away goals) his ability to make dangerous attacking passes that lead to quite a few goals in the lead up to the hex.

people seem to forget that we have the least amount of quality of any team in the hex and a player such as hyland may struggle on this team but would probably flourish on a better team alongside better players. Ok he made a blunder that lead to the first goal but no one saw how Cyrus was ball watching instead of picking an unmarked player, maybe if other players were in tuned with the rest of the team they would have done the smart thing and took down nagbe and take a card for the team rather than allowing him to make the cross that lead to the goal.

On the contrary I am an advocate for Hyland, he is our only genuine two way player and leader but he has his deficiencies. If you look at it broader he is more integral to the overall team than any other player in my opinion and in most cases how he plays directly affects our results positive and negative. It's a reason why we are up and down in terms of results.

I am not sure of his club situation at Westerloo as they were relegated and he may be out of contract.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 12, 2017, 12:07:55 PM
excuse me for interjecting but i get the feeling that many of you don't realize the magnificent contributions of khaleem hyland on this team. and so what if he loses the ball now and then most CM do lose possession from time to time that is normal in the game of football, they also make bad passes and foolish tackles that position is not a pretty one.

I have noticed quite often how hyland's detractors miss the positive contribution but highlight the mistakes. .No one talks about the plays that he breaks up the the midfield, his movement off the ball his professional fouls (something we didn't do prior to hyland which lead to a lot of break away goals) his ability to make dangerous attacking passes that lead to quite a few goals in the lead up to the hex.

people seem to forget that we have the least amount of quality of any team in the hex and a player such as hyland may struggle on this team but would probably flourish on a better team alongside better players. Ok he made a blunder that lead to the first goal but no one saw how Cyrus was ball watching instead of picking an unmarked player, maybe if other players were in tuned with the rest of the team they would have done the smart thing and took down nagbe and take a card for the team rather than allowing him to make the cross that lead to the goal.

Welcome to the real world dude.

MOST PEOPLE hardly get recognition when they do their job.  MOST PEOPLE also tend to feel the spotlight when they make mistakes.

That spotlight is significantly magnified when the individual is in the public eye.

It's life.

I certainly not saying Hyland is a bad player.  He was one of the better players on the day IMO. But his errors played a major part in the USA's first goal. 

Wha yuh expecting we to say....yeah he cause the first goal, but daz small ting.  Allyuh check dem 1 yard square and back passes he make to George, Cyrus and Bateau tho? 
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Fensic on June 12, 2017, 03:28:00 PM
I got a screen grab showing the moment the pass was made. As much as I hate to admit, it wasn't even close. He was offside. Two of them actually.

Still, that play and the one where Kenwyne headed onto the cross-bar should be consistent options in the Warrior's offensive repertoire.

I have seen T&T score off similar plays under Hart. They are devastating because they come off runs from outside the box into open space in the box; they are tough to defend as they are usually the result of very few touches so there is practically no build up and the result are goals out of what looks like nothing.

Even if the defense goes with the man making the run, there's always the possibility of it being a dummy run.

This business of one attacker trying to get around multiple defenders on the ground stopped working when I played football and look how long ago that was. It died when marking space replaced man to man inside the box. Plus, T&T players can be notorious ball watchers when the man with the ball takes on multiple defenders. Yet, when they do try to help is like the man wid de ball does say, "doh worry, I have dis", and keep forcing his way. All a good defender has to do his guide him to a bad angle for a low percentage shot which Trinis seem to always take for some strange reason.

Enjoyed reading this (the entire post).

I haven't reviewed the second half yet, so I'll reserve comment on the offside situation ... but just finished reviewing the first half. It definitely provides a prologue for what happened next.

There's much to what you state. What I would like to read more about is the assertion regarding "marking space versus man to man inside the box" ...

Give us a follow-up?

Regardless of all the advancements, football is still a simple game: Get the ball in their net more often then they get it in ours. As long as your fundamentals are fairly sound and you don't have unforgivable mental lapses that is.

That said, I used the wrong term when I said marking space. I should have said, zone defense.

I think there's no better strategy for defending the penalty box, especially against better prepared opponents. It is best for blunting an opponent's dummy run, or run into open space or a pass into open space for a player to run into. I could be wrong since I am old fashioned that way and see things in football that I wonder who the hell thought that shit was a good idea? Like goalies in short short sleeves and gloves like they is Mutt or Jeff. But I digress.

Given similarities between how basketball players and footballers attack, zone defense, adapted for the nuances of football, works better than man to man, in the penalty box. Assign a defender to an area and give him or her  the front door key to it.

Any reasonably knowledgable goalie hates to see a player in front of him not know if to chase a man all over the penalty box or stay put. Things happen quick in that box so while they in two minds, someone else gets the ball and the goalie becomes target practice.

When I was getting the ball out the back of my net, hearing the steups start and then, ". . .I tort you was pickin him up" and the denial with ". . . Me? Why me?  He not your man? . . .", didn't help.

In my lil coaching I insisted defenders break off from man to man into zone as soon as the other team entered the penalty box. However, field awareness is not easily taught so I'd get hoarse during games.

I say it is still a valid strategy. Guard an area and stop anyone from coming through it without paying a toll of some sort. Let the other team come up with a plan: Unless football has its version of basketball's pick and roll.

Sorry about the confusion with the term I used cause I eh invent nuttin new. I bet the US team employs zone defense.

I might have tuh watch tuh see fuh sure.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: Fensic on June 12, 2017, 03:47:23 PM
I got a screen grab showing the moment the pass was made. As much as I hate to admit, it wasn't even close. He was offside. Two of them actually.

Fensic, you right. But KJ looked more off-side than Lewis. Nathan was very close, like a shoulder. KJ was a again off-side when he whipped a a quick grounder across the goal. Like I posted in a another thread, had the US scored one like that, it would have stood.

Home town advantage rules? (Unless is in Triniland and the referee is from another country in the region maybe? I doh know ;)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on June 12, 2017, 04:42:51 PM
The conventional and prevailing wisdom tends not to advocate for zonal exclusively. Recipe for documented disasters.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: MEP on June 13, 2017, 02:27:01 PM
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Lawrence said in a post match interview on Thursday, that his men would be taking a lot of positives from their last match, as he believes his team lost only because of individual errors, rather than tactical problems.

According to Lawrence the tempo of the United States game was also badly affected by the high altitude conditions, for which he took his troops to Denver, Colorado two weeks earlier in an attempt to acclimatise.

Sophisticated way of saying it wasn't his fault
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: dcs on June 17, 2017, 01:10:59 AM

There is a difference to your points above and the fact that a payment was promised and not delivered.

I agree that we contribute to our problems just as much as any on field opponent

Correct. Whatever is agreed is what it is.

Suggesting a new collective agreement negotiated at the appropriate time.
Many things to consider if you look at it from a business perspective as well where our highs are WC qualification and our lows could be no Gold Cup, knockout of Caribbean Cup and ranked along side Faroe Islands with Curacao ahead of us. All factors on net revenue.
All the labour leaders rallying here now and the cry from many quarters is the Govt and the country has no money so temper expectations or lose everything.

Anyway,
The agreement would be something worked out with the players same as the current. Now if someone said this is what it is....no pay when ranked outside top 50 or no match fees only tournament prize sharing then who don't want to play don't have to. If you in a situation where we looking to rebuild because we out every major tournament it would cause real noise but could fly from a PR perspective if the fee money is redirected to other areas directly related to player compensation like health/insurance.

It would help to know what is the Industry Norm for the countries we are ranked with now. I really don't know but if we currently not able to meet expectations for small fees and it affecting performance relook what in place and make hard decisions....with the players ideally though they have no union so is only the current group having a say.

This could be a separate thread....or could go in a bacchanal section  ;D

Hopefully everything sorted and we focused for a late rally in this tournament so at least the fans have some wins to cheer about.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs USA Game (8-Jun-2017)
Post by: palos on June 20, 2017, 07:23:03 AM
I know DJW and I can assure you the players will get paid, there should be no insecurities from the T&T players.

Their pay might be late sometimes, but its inevitable.

Why inevitable?

Well, its certain to happen, they will get their money, I'm 100% sure.



The players get dey inevitable pay yet bruh?