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TTFA set to appoint obscure Belgian; ex-Bangladesh coach asked to take T&T to World Cup
By Lasana Liburd (Wired868.com)
The coach entrusted with taking Trinidad and Tobago to the Russia 2018 World Cup is not coming from South America. His last job was in Bangladesh!
In a bizarre turn of events, Wired868 understands that Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president David John-Williams is set to name 43-year-old Belgian Tom Saintfiet as head coach of the Soca Warriors at a 9am press conference tomorrow at the Marriot Hotel in Port of Spain.
So, effectively, the local football body’s idea of an upgrade on outgoing coach Stephen Hart appears to be an obscure Belgian who has never coached professionally in Europe, was kicked out of Zimbabwe and Nigeria due to concerns about his quality, lasted six months in Yemen, only two matches in Tanzania and just left a team ranked 183 in the world by FIFA—which is 105 spots lower than Trinidad and Tobago, who are 78th.
Saintfiet’s best spell arguably came at youth level when he led Qatar to the 2005 FIFA Under-17 World Cup, which was that nation’s fifth appearance at that age group competition.
His record as a senior coach is much less impressive.
At Namibia, he enjoyed his longest appointment of nearly two years. The unheralded African nation was ranked 126 in the world when the Belgian landed and he took them to a high of 101, although they plummeted all the way to 128 by the time of his controversial departure in 2010.
Saintfiet stunned his Namibia FA employers when he was officially unveiled as head coach of Zimbabwe while in the midst of a four-year contract with the former nation.
Saintfiet was reportedly wooed by Zimbabwe’s offer of US$7,000 per month, which is less than half of Hart’s pay package and roughly one tenth of the market value for a top level coach in CONCACAF—recently departed Jamaica coach Winfried Schafer was supposedly paid in excess of US$50,000 per month.
The Belgian quickly regretted his move. The Zimbabwe government twice refused its FA’s applications for his work permit—amidst a public outcry that he was no better than the local, Norman Mapeza, he replaced—and Saintfiet was forced to leave the country and beg for his old job back.
“[The Zimbabwe FA] promised me that they will talk to the NFA and it was supposed to happen sooner than it did,” Saintfiet was quoted in the Namibia Sun. “The situation forced me to lie and for that I have to say sorry to the Namibian football-loving people, the NFA and the players as well…
“We signed a contract […] and because I terminated it I have to pay them and I’m doing everything I can so that can be done. What happened was so wrong and I would love to come back and coach Namibia again.”
The Namibia FA did not take him up on the offer.
From then on, Saintfiet lasted six games in Ethiopia and barely four months as Nigeria technical director—allegedly because the Nigeria Ministry of Sport felt the country had many more competent locals and refused to support the move.
Next, he spent two months at Malawi and less than a year at Togo along with some largely anonymous stints at the odd African football club—he lasted just two games at Tanzanian club, Young Africans FC, where he was accused of failing to enforce discipline.
In April 2016, Saintfiet pleaded for a second chance as Ethiopia National Senior Team coach.
“I don’t care about the money or a contract,” Saintfiet told Eithosports. “I would just like to help change fortunes and start to build things up on a solid foundation. I’m ready to start immediately!”
Ethiopia did not bite and he ended up in a three-month contract from Bangladesh instead.
So, while Hart was preparing the Warriors—who were unbeaten at the time—to seal their place in the CONCACAF Hex against Guatemala, Saintfiet was attempting to take the “Bengal Tigers” past Bhutan and into the Asian Football Confederation (AFC) Cup.
Bangladesh drew goalless at home to Bhutan before falling 3-1 away. The only other outing of Saintfiet’s tenure as Bangladesh coach was a 5-0 friendly defeat away to the Maldives.
Bhutan and the Maldives are ranked 154 and 176 in the world respectively.
Saintfiet’s record in Europe is even less illustrious. The only fully professional team on his home continent to ever hire the Belgian was Finnish club RoPS, who once employed Trinidad and Tobago players Ataulla Guerra and Jamal Gay.
RoPS sacked Saintfiet during their pre-season in April 2008.
Somehow, the obscure Belgian’s CV ended up on the desk of the TTFA’s technical committee as a possible replacement for Hart, who was twice listed on a CONCACAF Coach for Year shortlist in the last years, is the only coach to take Trinidad and Tobago to two Gold Cup quarterfinal berths and led Canada to the 2008 Gold Cup semifinal.
On Monday night, the TTFA’s board of directors selected him as their next head coach, as he beat out competition that included Colombian Luis Fernando Suarez, who took Ecuador to the second round of the Germany 2006 World Cup and steered Honduras to the Brazil 2014 World Cup.
Former Trinidad and Tobago captain David Nakhid was the only local believed to have applied for the vacant job while Englishmen Terry Fenwick and Ricky Hill, Serbian Zoran Vranes and Colombian Francisco Maturana were said to be among the applicants.
The board, according to a source, was informed that Saintfiet was bright, innovative and extremely affordable. It is uncertain exactly how much information was given on the three coaches before the decision. But, in the end, the board voted for Saintfiet.
The current TTFA board of directors comprises: John-Williams (president), Joanne Salazar, Ewing Davis and Allan Warner (vice-presidents), Samuel Saunders (Central FA), Sherwyn Dyer (Eastern Counties Football Union), Karanjabari Williams (Northern FA), Richard Quan Chan (Southern FA), Anthony Moore (Tobago FA), Joseph Taylor (Trinidad and Tobago Football Referees Association), Sharon O’Brien (Women’s League Football), Wayne Cunningham (Eastern FA) and Dexter Skeene (TT Pro League).
The TTFA technical committee consists of: Skeene (chairman), Dr Alvin Henderson (vice-chairman), Bertille St Clair (former World Youth Cup coach), Errol Lovell (former national goalkeeper), Jinelle James (ex-national player and current administrator) and Muhammad Isa (technical director).
It is uncertain how many members attended yesterday board’s meeting.
The TTFA board is believed to have made a second coaching appointment last night for the Women’s National Senior Team. In this case, they voted for the well qualified former Italy and Canada national women’s coach, Carolina Morace, who has already visited Trinidad.
Saintfiet must now prepare the Warriors for 2017 Gold Cup play off action against Suriname and Haiti on 4 and 8 January 2017 respectively as well as World Cup qualifying action against Panama and Mexico on 24 and 28 March respectively.
It will be the first time the Belgian has ever coached a team ranked in the top 100 FIFA nations in the world.
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:banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead:
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Whewww...well atleast the last 2 years of football was exciting...
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DJW on rel shit
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Jeez an ages........ :frustrated:
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This is bizarre! This is not the time to give someone a boost to their CV. We need someone who can hit the ground running in Concacaf.
Who recommended this fella? By what measure is he expected to be able to help us?
On another note the article say Pacho wanted back in.
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You get what you can afford.
And if the last coaching staff was anything to go by, this Saintfiet fella mus be doh care if he gettin pay
Now....Lasana will look pretty bad if DJW does NOT name this guy as head coach tomorrow. We won't have long to wait.
Maybe Saintfiet agree to use W Connection players exclusively for the national team and his salary will be a cut of any transfer fees players get if signed by foreign (belgian) clubs.
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conspiracy theory:dey probably find out who Lasana informant is and tell him give Lasana dat to hold, just to set him up
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RoPs
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Wtf am I reading here? This is from late o' clock news?
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I hope this is what Royal talking about. If not, WE F00KING DOOMED...
Is there a way to get DJW removed? There must be something the TTFA stakeholders can do. But then again they might be all DJW's buddies..
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If this is true:
David john and his cabal will run the team silently through this figure head coach who will have zero power, so David john was sent in to destabilize the Trinidad team, fire hart and make sure Trinidad does not qualify for the World Cup ... I've been saying this from day one
And if we qualify by some miracle, David john will appoint a new coach and look like a saviour... David can't manipulate results with Hart pushing to win...
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Well this one take the cake.....
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If this is true:
David john and his cabal will run the team silently through this figure head coach who will have zero power, so David john was sent in to destabilize the Trinidad team, fire hart and make sure Trinidad does not qualify for the World Cup ... I've been saying this from day one
And if we qualify by some miracle, David john will appoint a new coach and look like a saviour... David can't manipulate results with Hart pushing to win...
What will it take for DJW to go? That's what we all want to know
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I hope this is what Royal talking about. If not, WE F00KING DOOMED...
Is there a way to get DJW removed? There must be something the TTFA stakeholders can do. But then again they might be all DJW's buddies..
Under the constitution he must serve his 4 years unless the committee vote him out but that is highly unlikely as he has their support..
The corruption knows no bounds, like I said they don't love our nation or our football, it was sabotage from the beginning
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I hope this is what Royal talking about. If not, WE F00KING DOOMED...
Is there a way to get DJW removed? There must be something the TTFA stakeholders can do. But then again they might be all DJW's buddies..
Under the constitution he must serve his 4 years unless the committee vote him out but that is highly unlikely as he has their support..
The corruption knows no bounds, like I said they don't love our nation or our football, it was sabotage from the beginning
So who are these committee members/green brains?
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If this is true:
David john and his cabal will run the team silently through this figure head coach who will have zero power, so David john was sent in to destabilize the Trinidad team, fire hart and make sure Trinidad does not qualify for the World Cup ... I've been saying this from day one
And if we qualify by some miracle, David john will appoint a new coach and look like a saviour... David can't manipulate results with Hart pushing to win...
What will it take for DJW to go? That's what we all want to know
If he is found to be conducting illegal activities he can be removed, if the committee of ttfa votes for his removal based on irregularities, improper use of funds or he violates the constitution, so far he hasn't done anything outlandish to be voted out...
Public pressure and the press needs to lambast him and the admin in order for supporters he has surrounding him to have no choice but to vote him out, I need to review the constitution again to see the ways it can happen..in more detail
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If this is true:
David john and his cabal will run the team silently through this figure head coach who will have zero power, so David john was sent in to destabilize the Trinidad team, fire hart and make sure Trinidad does not qualify for the World Cup ... I've been saying this from day one
And if we qualify by some miracle, David john will appoint a new coach and look like a saviour... David can't manipulate results with Hart pushing to win...
What will it take for DJW to go? That's what we all want to know
If he is found to be conducting illegal activities he can be removed, if the committee of ttfa votes for his removal based on irregularities, improper use of funds or he violates the constitution, so far he hasn't done anything outlandish to be voted out...
Public pressure and the press needs to lambast him and the admin in order for supporters he has surrounding him to have no choice but to vote him out, I need to review the constitution again to see the ways it can happen..in more detail
Okay. So there might be a "glimmer" of a glimmer of hope.
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Even if its a function of cost, this cannot be the best option.
The local media will take the FA to task on this.
They were very quick to eliminate a number of persons. How did Saintfiet even make the short list of 3.
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Yes. There must be something in the constitution to prevent a president from appointing just anyone.. who can blow a whistle, to the coaching position.
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Yes. There must be something in the constitution to prevent a president from appointing just anyone.. who can blow a whistle, to the coaching position.
AT the general meeting, the board of directors can suspend a member with two thirds of the vote for a violation, I'm assuming David john controls 2/3 of the vote currently...
Expulsion is as follows:
The General Meeting may expel a Member if:
a) it fails to fulfil its financial obligations towards TTFA;
b) it seriously violates the Statutes, regulations, directives or decisions of FIFA, CONCACAF, CFU and TTFA;
c) it brings a dispute to an Ordinary Court, except in cases where the FIFA, CONCACAF or TTFA regulations or binding legal provisions specifically provide for or stipulate recourse to Ordinary Courts;
2 The presence of a majority (more than 50%) of the Members eligible to vote is necessary for an expulsion to be valid, and the motion for expulsion must be adopted by a three-quarter majority of the valid votes cast.
The general meeting is the supreme legislative body, with the bod being the executive body, maximum delegates of 56:
) TT Pro League clubs 10 delegates
b) National Super League clubs 15 delegates
c) For the Regional Associations
- Central FA 3 delegates
- Eastern FA 3 delegates
- Eastern Counties Football Union 3 delegates
- Northern FA 3 delegates
- Southern FA 3 delegates
- Tobago FA 3 delegates
d) Women Association 2 delegates
e) Referees Association 2 delegates
f) Futsal Association of T&T (FATT) 2 delegates
g) Youth Association Primary Schools League 1 delegate
h) Secondary School Football League 1 delegate
i) TTAYSO 1 delegate
h) Players Association 1 delegate
i) Coaches Association 1 delegate
j) T&T Beach Soccer Association 1 delegate
k) Veteran Players Association 1 delegate
2 Each Delegate shall have one (1) vote in the General Meeting. Only the Delegates present are entitled to vote. Voting by proxy or by letter is not permitted.
3 Delegates must belong to the Member that they represent and be appointed or elected by the appropriate body of that Member. They must also be able to produce evidence of this upon request.
4 The Board of Directors and the General Secretary shall take part in the General Meeting without voting rights. During their terms of office, members of the Board of Directors may not be appointed as delegates of a Member.
The bod consists of:
The Board of Directors consists of 13 members. The members of the Board of Directors are:
- 1 President
- 3 Vice-Presidents
- 2 ordinary members
- 1 member representing each of the following Regional Associations (total 6 members):
- Central FA
- Eastern FA
- Eastern Counties Football Union
- Northern FA
- Southern FA
- Tobago FA
- 1 member representing the Pro League
- 1 female member representing the Women Association
- 1 member representing the Player Association
Decisions
1 The Board of Directors shall not engage in valid debate unless 50% of its members are present.
2 The Board of Directors shall reach decisions by a majority (more than 50%) of the valid votes cast. In the event of a tied vote, the President shall have the casting vote. Voting by proxy or by letter is not permitted.
3 Any Member of the Board of Directors must withdraw from the debate and from taking a decision if there is any risk or possibility of a conflict of interests
4 The decisions taken shall be recorded in the minutes.
5 The decisions taken by the Board of Directors shall come into effect immediately, unless the Board of Directors decides otherwise.
The ruby Tuesday meeting was really a Kangaroo Court, however, the bod have the power to make the final decision and are within their rights to fire Hart, you see the whole local body of our football is corrupt and they chose someone that can rep them, David john is an extension of the heads of football in Trinidad..
Now that Hart is gone they will run it as they please with a puppet in the position of the head coach, fevrier and David will coach the team silently and that is why they appointed this no name coach.. to have supreme power
The composition of votes and who are the heads was a point I brought up years ago, as they hold the power to appoint, we need people who think like us as heads that have the vote in order to prevent guys like David from taking over
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Here is my issue with the constitution that I pointed out from the very beginning and a few on here argued with me but look at the result now:
Any candidate that wishes to become a member of the Board of Directors shall fulfil the following eligibility criteria:
- Candidates shall have been active in football for at least three years during the five years preceding the election. This activity must have been performed in a managerial or a similar position in the territory of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago . ?????
- Candidates may not have previously been found guilty of an indictable offence.
- Candidates shall be nationals of and shall have permanent residence in the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago.
- Candidatures for the office of President, Vice-President and ordinary member of the Board of Directors shall be supported by at least one Member. Candidatures for the other positions of the Board of Directors shall be proposed by the Member they represent.
- The candidate for the office of member representing the Women Association must be female.
The above are not necessary, any national whether they have residence in Trinidad or elsewhere should be eligible and football activities should not be limited to Trinidad.. that's just plain ridiculous .... those rules have now created the monster we have to deal with now..
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I hear they are about to hire a Piper Coach to lead us to Russia.
Did some one forget to take their meds. If what I am reading is true about this man's CV and tract record , we need to protest and trouble the waters and boycott and lobby players to refuse this shameful appointment. Friends not to decide is in truth to decide and the evil in this world is when good knowledgeable men in this Forum remain silent in the face of injustice . those who sit on the fence in this modern world would get electrocuted. Listen I have prayed too hard and for too long to have a few men destroy not only my national team but my country. Because the only thing that unites us at the moment is our Football team and Hart showed us some light amidst the darkness.
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The man is alleged to have offered to work for free for Ethiopia.
Imagine what he offer we!! He might be paying we to pad he resume.
Genius move by DJW. We go pay off all debts by June :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated:
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you'll sure he could get a work permit?
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We can't be serious here :cursing: best we have a public outcry like the people of Zimbabwe, it worked for them. Imagine de man got fired from a club after 2 days because they accused him of not enforcing discipline, thank god we don't have indiscipline amongst our team.
Lasana ah feel you punking we here, all fools day?
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We can't be serious here :cursing: best we have a public outcry like the people of Zimbabwe, it worked for them. Imagine de man got fired from a club after 2 days because they accused him of not enforcing discipline, thank god we don't have indiscipline amongst our team.
Lasana ah feel you punking we here, all fools day?
Public outcry?
The only time trinis will have a public outcry/protest is if they ban carnival
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We can't be serious here :cursing: best we have a public outcry like the people of Zimbabwe, it worked for them. Imagine de man got fired from a club after 2 days because they accused him of not enforcing discipline, thank god we don't have indiscipline amongst our team.
Lasana ah feel you punking we here, all fools day?
Public outcry?
The only time trinis will have a public outcry/protest is if they ban carnival
Lmao I know dat ain happening. Boat cruise jammers on de road (sea) to Russia.
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(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/3/3b/1396o.jpg)
Photo: Soca Warriors new head coach Tom Saintfiet reacts to receiving his negotiated pay packet, a giant hamburger. TTFA president David John-Williams can be seen lurking in the background
(Courtesy Reuters)
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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you'll sure he could get a work permit?
Only need a work permit if you getting paid
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I think Lasana taking this fake news thing a step too far...
Oh gawd oh this funny too bad....Even Anton and Latas have a better International coaching record than this guy
My feeling is that the team will never go for this..buh wait...how he go know who to pick??? hmmm anyway I think the team won't stand for this and that DamnJackassWilliams go fire them and put all Wconnection players
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Definitely a gag, they can't tie me up with this...quintessential fake news:)
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Felllas is de cricket team this man coming to coach right??? He just got done in Bangladesh...is cricket them men playing...
You think our players wld respect a coach of such a low caliber...cmon now
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Talk about a slap in the face
We just became the laughing stock of the football world
That man just put a dagger in my Hart when I turned my back...talking about back stabber's
If this is fact...a total boycott of all things related to the TTFF..should be employed from the minute that appointment is made by the head clown
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One earthquake yesterday... another today
Father lend a hand...save us from these imposters
Thanks
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If iz one day allyuh hope Lasana credibility takes a beating, today IZ THAT day. :)
Hold tight, Liburd. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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ah telling allyuh.. Lasana get set up and set up badly
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Lasana has confirmed to have met the man only minutes ago
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Lasana has confirmed to have met the man only minutes ago
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ..... ok there's still time the Press Conference hasn't happened yet !!!!!
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you'll sure he could get a work permit?
Only need a work permit if you getting paid
ouch.
how de 4k national team coach become a volunteer wuk? ???
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Yea it's confirmed he just posted up a pic on Facebook.
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Live on 95.5 FM
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Jamaal Shabazz. Head coordinator of TTFA affairs
Carolina Morace. Head coach of Snr Womens team
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You get what you can afford.
And if the last coaching staff was anything to go by, this Saintfiet fella mus be doh care if he gettin pay
Now....Lasana will look pretty bad if DJW does NOT name this guy as head coach tomorrow. We won't have long to wait.
Maybe Saintfiet agree to use W Connection players exclusively for the national team and his salary will be a cut of any transfer fees players get if signed by foreign (belgian) clubs.
Why should Lasana look bad if this does not happen ,maybe this story could change the course of events .
This is my first post since the massive hart failure and transplant .I have been numb ,saddened ,shocked and disgusted by DJW decisions ,but which I saw coming from the day they removed Tim Kee ,felt the same way when they voted out Manning for Kamla ,better the devil you know in a place like Trini .
If this article holds true then I agree with posters who says he's a puppet or muppet coach which the admin can manipulate.
Also I think it's a master stroke by the Admin ,by dropping the bar so low ppl would rejoice now with even Charles .Genius !!
Anyway I had given up after ......🤔 Think it was the Costa Rica loss knowing there is more in the Mortar than the Pestle ,only posted because injunchile said don't be quiet today.
But I think This new admin is like contro says ,is the Dark Lord and we can't win against him for the time being ,would have to be a long drawn out war like what we waged against Jack Warner ...DJW =David Jack Warner .
We are Doomed to the plantation .
No Russia sorry guys .
Sorry for typos etc
Quags
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Confirmed.
Tom Saintfiet. Senior Mens National Coach
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Wow. DJW introduced the man by saying if he don't get the job done on March 24th and 28th he will be looking for a next job
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Wow. DJW introduced the man by saying if he don't get the job done on March 24th and 28th he will be looking for a next job
That's what I just wrote he dropped the coaching bar so low we would except anybody now David Jack Warner smart & scary to bad
I think that's my new name for him David Jack Warner seems he's earned the monicker now
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Lawddd I fed up
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DJW say the man wasn't we first choice but he affordable.
He claimed Phillipe Troussier was the first choice but cost too much
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I know -- like ah seer man -- I had posted in another thread that HE was coming with ah "head-scratching" hire, but damn yo this is waaayy more than I expected!
Jokey, jokey, jokey.
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If I knew they were willing to appoint just about anybody I woulda throw my hat in the ring.
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The real news is who his assistants will be. Pay attention.
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Tim Kee was working on a pipeline of money from the Minister of Sport .
The Wagon can't survive the Road to Russia fellas DJW squash a Certain World Cup spot to save a few grand smh.
Well hopefully during his reign he might fix the books of the TTFF .
In the mean time because of Hart we lifted our profile and have players in Central America and Mexico for the first time boads well for the next cup ,unfornately Captn K might not be there by then .
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The real news is who his assistants will be. Pay attention.
If you listened to the whole press conference and each speakers contributions, I think you could start making inferences.
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Season pass holders should ........?
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Season pass holders should ........?
Take that and cool it
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The real news is who his assistants will be. Pay attention.
If you listened to the whole press conference and each speakers contributions, I think you could start making inferences.
Correct.
And, the most important announcement today was NOT Saintfiet's appointment.
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If Pacho was the corbeaux brand can't wait to hear what touches gonna name this guys brand .
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TTFA the goal was to GET to Russia, not play Russian roulette with the fackin team Probably iphone spellcheck mess up the memo?
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Jamaal Shabazz. Head coordinator of TTFA affairs
Carolina Morace. Head coach of Snr Womens team
I like this appointment. Hope it works out.
But what the hell is that position that Shabazz just get?
What exactly does that position entail?
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This is such an insult to Stephen Hart
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Jamaal Shabazz. Head coordinator of TTFA affairs
Isn't he the head coach of Guyana? ???
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Jamaal Shabazz. Head coordinator of TTFA affairs
Isn't he the head coach of Guyana? ???
No.
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Jamaal Shabazz. Head coordinator of TTFA affairs
Carolina Morace. Head coach of Snr Womens team
I like this appointment. Hope it works out.
But what the hell is that position that Shabazz just get?
What exactly does that position entail?
Coordinator of TTFA Programmes.
It means he will actually be doing someone else's job but that particular someone else is effectively clueless that that is the case or effectively innoculated from doing anything about it.
Decision pre-dates MNT technical staff change.
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Shabazz, fevrier and David john running the team with this figurehead there... these men should be run out of our country for destroying our wc chances and firing a great coach..
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Wow. DJW introduced the man by saying if he don't get the job done on March 24th and 28th he will be looking for a next job
With respect to this comment, I think it might be fair to speculate Saintfiet is on possibly a very short term contract. Perhaps one that was uniquely appealing to a journeyman manager such as himself.
What is the long term plan of the TTFA beyond March? Who is lined up after that because clearly DJW's mind is already on the possibilities of failure. What will be the mandate of the next man to lead our flagship team at that point?
Gold Cup possibly would be on the horizon. Just some things to think about.
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Wow. DJW introduced the man by saying if he don't get the job done on March 24th and 28th he will be looking for a next job
With respect to this comment, I think it might be fair to speculate Saintfiet is on possibly a very short term contract. Perhaps one that was uniquely appealing to a journeyman manager such as himself.
What is the long term plan of the TTFA beyond March? Who is lined up after that because clearly DJW's mind is already on the possibilities of failure. What will be the mandate of the next man to lead our flagship team at that point?
Gold Cup possibly would be on the horizon. Just some things to think about.
Gun talk!
This is all about saving money (and IMO incredibly shortsighted). Fits in with DJW's earlier statements about hiring a coach for a couple of games to see how he does before making a longer term decision. So if he doesn't get the results after the next two games in the Hex, he will be fired and replaced with an even cheaper (probably local, and maybe even SCF) option. Also, it sounds like he was either the cheapest option available and/or the only one willing to work under those restrictions and DJW is making sure he knows who's the boss by putting him on notice immediately and publicly.
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would love to see what his 1st session is like and how the players react in the sessions
Hopefully the media officers can get down on the ground with some good full length footage (minus the music---let us hear the vibe n sounds of the sessions)
interesting women's head coach pick btw
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did DJW give the reasons for this pick as most associations do in there press conference? I know we normally outside de most.
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Carolina resigned from the canadian national team in 2011
"Unexpectedly, she formally announced her resignation as the coach of the Canadian national women's team on Friday 22 July 2011 due to future budget disputes"
Oh boi...hopefully the past is the past and we can expect greater things from the women's program (fingers crossed)
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Some employment history.
http://www.transfermarkt.com/tom-saintfiet/profil/trainer/2399
Shortlisted for the Super Eagles post?
https://newtelegraphonline.com/saintfiet-snubbed-nigeria-bangladesh/
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Carolina resigned from the canadian national team in 2011
"Unexpectedly, she formally announced her resignation as the coach of the Canadian national women's team on Friday 22 July 2011 due to future budget disputes"
Oh boi...hopefully the past is the past and we can expect greater things from the women's program (fingers crossed)
LOL! She must be have some iron clad T&C's in her contract...otherwise....why would she take a job with the TTFA?
Look how long Pellerud take to get his $$. She MUST be aware of de assholery dat does pass for football administration in T&T
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Some employment history.
http://www.transfermarkt.com/tom-saintfiet/profil/trainer/2399
His best result was two draws against Nigeria... nothing special to talk about..
It just goes to show, TT football should be run by ex pats, not locally... too much corruption and undermining
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Wow. DJW introduced the man by saying if he don't get the job done on March 24th and 28th he will be looking for a next job
Never seen a coach introduced in that manner before. He's clearly letting him who's boss.
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DJW say the man wasn't we first choice but he affordable.
He claimed Phillipe Troussier was the first choice but cost too much
Well at least he is being "honest" about why he picked the Belgian.
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DJW say the man wasn't we first choice but he affordable.
He claimed Phillipe Troussier was the first choice but cost too much
Well at least he is being "honest" about why he picked the Belgian.
Anything to back yuh Prezi eh?
I respect your loyalty :)
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Some employment history.
http://www.transfermarkt.com/tom-saintfiet/profil/trainer/2399
His best result was two draws against Nigeria... nothing special to talk about..
It just goes to show, TT football should be run by ex pats, not locally... too much corruption and undermining
"TT football should be run by expats, not locally".
Contro, I eh bullshitting you, I feel your pain. But how is that possible. And it don't make sense. Why not a mixture of expats and locals.
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Some employment history.
http://www.transfermarkt.com/tom-saintfiet/profil/trainer/2399
His best result was two draws against Nigeria... nothing special to talk about..
It just goes to show, TT football should be run by ex pats, not locally... too much corruption and undermining
"TT football should be run by expats, not locally".
Contro, I eh bullshitting you, I feel your pain. But how is that possible. And it don't make sense. Why not a mixture of expats and locals.
Because locals have failed and continue to fail, they get a boss coach who is a son of the soil and fire him for a nobody who has nothing to show....
And trust me there are ways, hence the reason David John has now given me a reason to study the constitution in great detail again..
If you support David as Palos just said, you should be ashamed of yourself ... you are indeed a wolf in sheeps clothing on this board and I thought you were one of the good ones...
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well well well ( To quote the great Sir Ruskin Mark )
wha ah go do ??...ah love meh TnT football teams...so ..welcome Mr Tom Santfiet ...do your best...good luck...
you just never know...
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Wow. DJW introduced the man by saying if he don't get the job done on March 24th and 28th he will be looking for a next job
Never seen a coach introduced in that manner before. He's clearly letting him who's boss.
If the job isn't done on those dates, or campaign over anyway
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Saintfiet and Morace appointed Head Coaches of T&T Men and Women Senior Teams.
TTFA Media.
The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association is today pleased to announce two major appointments for its Men and Women Senior National Teams.
The TTFA welcomes to the organisation, Ms. Carolina Morace who has been appointed as Head Coach for our Women’s National Senior Team and Director of Women’s Football and Mr. Tom Saintfiet who will take up the position of Head Coach of our Men’s National Senior Team.
These and other announcements were made at a Press Conference hosted by TTFA at the Courtyard Marriott in Port of Spain.
Morace, age 52, served as Head Coach of Canada’s Senior Women’s team from 2009-2011. She led Canada to winners row at the 2010 CONCACAF Women’s Gold Cup and qualification to the 2011 FIFA Women’s World Cup. She was also Head Coach of the Italian National Senior and Under 19 Women’s Team in 2000-2005. She became the first woman to ever coach a Men’s Professional Team – AS Viterbase of Italy in 1999.
Morace played for the Italy Senior Women’s Team between 1978-1997, scoring 105 goals in 153 appearances, making her debut at age 14. She set a record for both men and women, being the first and only player to score four goals in a single match at Wembley Stadium. She was also the first player to score a hattrick at a FIFA Women’s World Cup in 1991 and became the first woman to be inducted into the Italian Football Hall of Fame.
Morace holds a UEFA Pro License and is a FIFA Instructor. She is currently a FIFA World Ambassador for Women’s football and is also a lawyer and television football commentator.
Saintfiet, age 43, is from Belgium and was a player between 1983 and 1997 before going onto become the youngest manager (head coach) in Belgian Football at the age of 24. He is the former head coach of Finnish Premier League club RoPS Rovaniemi. At the international level for country, he is the former Head Coach of Namibia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, Yemen, Malawi, Togo and Bangladesh. He is also a former Technical Director of the Nigerian Football Association.
Saintfiet also coached the Qatar Under 17 Men’s Team to third place in the AFC Asian Championships and qualified Qatar for the FIFA Under 17 World Cup in 2004.
He holds a UEFA Pro License and has a Bachelor in Sports and Business Psychology. He speaks English, French, Dutch and German with basic knowledge of Arabic, Afrikaans, Faeroes and Spanish.
You can find more information about Saintfiet and Morace in the attached CVs.
There were other announcements made at the Press Conference today. Justin Latapy-George was announced as the new General Secretary of the FA by President John-Williams who also disclosed that Jamaal Shabazz has taken up the position of Coordinator of Technical Programs and Technical Adviser for a three-year period. Further updates will continue be made on this website.
Videos
TTFA Appoints Tom Saintfiet as Senior Men's Team Head Coach (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SO8DyeT3gg)
TTFA announces Carolina Morace as new National Women's Team Head Coach (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVfSBcd2IBI)
CV'S
Carolina Morace’s CV (http://ttfootball.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Carolina-Morace-CV-2016-ref1.pdf)
Tom Saintfiet’s CV (http://ttfootball.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/CURRICULUMVITAETS-New-2.doc)
(http://ttfootball.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/saintfietandmorace-copy.jpg)
(http://ttfootball.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Women-Head-Coach.jpg)
(http://ttfootball.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Men-Head-Coach.jpg)
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Instructive that the women's appointment took precedence over the men's, even though the Men are heavily involved in the final stages of World Cup qualifying and the women in essence doing f**k all right now.
I wonder if Morace really know what she get herself into?
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One of the priorities was to hire coaches with the Pro Licence.
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One of the priorities was to hire coaches with the Pro Licence.
No the main priority is a puppet/figurehead that they can dictate to and control..
They couldn't control Hart, like I said, none of them getting a work in a G20, period..
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Contro....Is not just football the "locals" failing at. Is basically every aspect of life in Trinidad. Hence the need for "who you know" and "links" in order to get things in sweet tnt. All of that just to protect the mediocrity that everyone know that they encourage but happy to benefit from. Even Angostura failing and in bobol.
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One of the STATED/ALLEGED priorities was to hire coaches with the Pro Licence.
Fixed it fuh yuh.
Unless is really a case of yuh omit de "League" after de Pro ;)
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So yuh fire Hart who was building something for the last couple of years after poor results from two traditionally difficult teams and you hire a thing. A thing who last "coached" Bangladesh..Alluh sure trinis eh allergic to common sense? I honestly feel something in the water in this land not right. I does feel strange in trini inno but when I go away I does be ok. I feel is something in air.
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So yuh fire Hart who was building something for the last couple of years after poor results from two traditionally difficult teams and you hire a thing. A thing who last "coached" Bangladesh..Alluh sure trinis eh allergic to common sense? I honestly feel something in the water in this land not right. I does feel strange in trini inno but when I go away I does be ok. I feel is something in air.
Somebody "influential" hear TTFA was looking for a coach and trow een Saintfiet CV. De man coach Bangladesh & Zimbabwe.
Nobody mention that is a cricket coach dey was gettin
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Contro....Is not just football the "locals" failing at. Is basically every aspect of life in Trinidad. Hence the need for "who you know" and "links" in order to get things in sweet tnt. All of that just to protect the mediocrity that everyone know that they encourage but happy to benefit from. Even Angostura failing and in bobol.
All i care about is football now brother.. to hell with the rest of things home, cricket is another rubbish situation, so I done watching that long time.. track and field going nowhere...
All that money the pnm have now and they running their bobol as well, that new gas find and you are not hearing a peep and football not getting any money to support it.. I'm glad because David john should get nothing but he could be pretending he getting nothing and in cahoots with the govt
I don't trust any of them... Hart come and start doing well, they start undermining him, strike almost happen, kerron get shot, let people stay there and feel things was just coincidence, that logic or lack thereof is for fools
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Might as well start it now. :)
Doh worry Coach, you're no one unless your name has blessed a Fire thread. Although, in the interest of full disclosure, you've just set the record for when the
the thread gets started ... the same day you were announced.
I'm just following the lead of our president who told you he would fire you in March if we don't secure 6 points. However, to be consistent, he should really fire you in January if we don't win versus THOSE opponents.
Know what I mean? That way we keep our World Cup dream alive, without experimenting in March in the actual HEX and I get to start another Fire thread named after your successor.
You have four (4) matches. Essentially more action than you've seen in some places. Let's consider it as two matches. Good luck!
As they say in Bangladesh ... Oh, never mind: you were not there long enough to know what they say in Bangladesh.
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:devil:
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WATCH: TTFA announces Carolina Morace as new National Women's Team Head Coach
https://www.youtube.com/v/gVfSBcd2IBI
WATCH: TTFA appoints Tom Saintfiet as Senior Men’s Team Head Coach
https://www.youtube.com/v/-SO8DyeT3gg
WATCH: Q&A session with new Trinidad and Tobago Head Coach Tom Saintfiet
https://www.youtube.com/v/DLD8zd8QkkM
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Might as well start it now. :)
Doh worry Coach, you're no one unless your name has blessed a Fire thread. Although, in the interest of full disclosure, you've just set the record for when the
the thread gets started ... the same day you were announced.
I'm just following the lead of our president who told you he would fire you in March of we didn't secure 6 points. However, to be consistent, he should really fire you in January if we don't win versus those opponents.
Know what I mean? That way we keep our WC dream alive, without experimenting in March, and I get to start another Fire thread named after your successor.
You have four (4) matches. Essentially more action than you've seen in some places.
Let's consider it as two matches. Good luck!
As they say in Bangladesh ... Oh, never mind: you were not there long enough to know what they say in Bangladesh.
:rotfl: Allyuh eh easy at all! :beermug:
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Might as well start it now. :)
Doh worry Coach, you're no one unless your name has blessed a Fire thread. Although, in the interest of full disclosure, you've just set the record for when the
the thread gets started ... the same day you were announced.
I'm just following the lead of our president who told you he would fire you in March if we don't secure 6 points. However, to be consistent, he should really fire you in January if we don't win versus THOSE opponents.
Know what I mean? That way we keep our World Cup dream alive, without experimenting in March in the actual HEX and I get to start another Fire thread named after your successor.
You have four (4) matches. Essentially more action than you've seen in some places. Let's consider it as two matches. Good luck!
As they say in Bangladesh ... Oh, never mind: you were not there long enough to know what they say in Bangladesh.
Like you bin studyin (nice moniker for u BTW) under DJW boss ;)
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I see nothing wrong with these 2 coaches.
They deserve a chance like everyone else.
I would love to see 2 local coaches on his staff as assistance.
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I see nothing wrong with these 2 coaches.
They deserve a chance like everyone else.
I would love to see 2 local coaches on his staff as assistance.
(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/37/3712/6SJAF00Z/posters/ray-charles-laughing.jpg)
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2008-2010 Namibia
2010 Zimbabwe
2010-2011 Shabab Al-Ordon
2011 Ethiopia
2012 Young Africans
2012-2013 Yemen
2013 Malawi
2014 Free State Stars
2015-2016 Togo
2016-2016 Bangladesh
2016-??? TT
Did I count correctly, 11 jobs in 8 years?
Has any country on his CV had a 'sniff' of getting
to a WC?
Amazing!!!
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Tbh he did talk a good talk. He did his research on the players, their mentality, the football culture, team and country. As much as I hated to see Hart go, I have to support my team and my country.
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Well... Mr. Saintfiet is our new coach, nothing anyone one of us can do about it other than support him...so...best of luck coach!
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So we get a coach from Dollar Rescue?
Well ....we cant be angry if we get what we pay for.
It damn good for we.
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Wave your flag....shit....ah mean
Wave your magic wand.,..
Ah bush bath coming next.....
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So we get a coach from Dollar Rescue?
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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So we get a coach from Dollar Rescue?
:rotfl: :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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This site is kix :rotfl:
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My only concern is he was not able to keep a job as head coach in recent years for a suitable length of time. This raises a lot of questions
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Well said coachman! Great first impression, said all the right things...hopefully he could implement some sort of structure so we could get the results we need as mentioned with some help from the football Gods as well.
Although I respect and thank Hart for his services and agree that his firing was not well timed, the thing is players got comfortable under his regime and things had to change. If yuh "go to" players (specifically mainly the midfielders not named Joevin Jones and Levi Garcia) not performing after a period of time, yuh could no longer guarantee them a starting spot on the team which is where I think Hart went wrong, he should have thrown them back in the barrel with the rest of the crabs let them prove dey hunger and fight fuh dey pick.
So as a result of men getting comfortable and reluctant to hold deyself accountable on and off the pitch...this shake up was drastically needed. Everybody on a blank slate now and I expect guys who consistently work hard and put in the extra effort to show that dey deserve to play would play. The major downfall though is not only the other 5 teams in the hex against us, but time is as well...so besides the effort and hard work and tactical and technical awareness and plain ole every individual winning dey battle on the pitch...we need some luck from the football Gods too.
So let's give it a go Warriors!
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2008-2010 Namibia
2010 Zimbabwe
2010-2011 Shabab Al-Ordon
2011 Ethiopia
2012 Young Africans
2012-2013 Yemen
2013 Malawi
2014 Free State Stars
2015-2016 Togo
2016-2016 Bangladesh
2016-??? TT
Did I count correctly, 11 jobs in 8 years?
Has any country on his CV had a 'sniff' of getting
to a WC?
Amazing!!!
some of those jobs he wasnt there for even a month
poor admin situations n he left soon after like with zimbabwe and nigeria
he done here. Choice made. enough soundbites n ole talk
Let's see what he's made of n if he can somehow patch up the holes of the sinking ship
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A cursory investigation shows that over his last four coaching assignments in charge of national teams, Saintfiet was in charge of 28 international matches, winning 3, losing 22, and drawing 3:
Bangladesh (3 months, 3 matches, 0 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw)
Togo (1 year, 9 matches, 2 wins, 5 losses, 2 draws)
Malawi (3 months, 5 matches, 1 win, 4 losses, 0 draws)
Yemen (6 months, 11 matches, 0 wins, 11 losses, 0 draws)
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Oh, never mind: you were not there long enough to know what they say in Bangladesh.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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A cursory investigation shows that over his last four coaching assignments in charge of national teams, Saintfiet was in charge of 28 international matches, winning 3, losing 22, and drawing 3:
Bangladesh (3 months, 3 matches, 0 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw)
Togo (1 year, 9 matches, 2 wins, 5 losses, 2 draws)
Malawi (3 months, 5 matches, 1 win, 4 losses, 0 draws)
Yemen (6 months, 11 matches, 0 wins, 11 losses, 0 draws)
Deeks would say "at least he win 3" :D
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A cursory investigation shows that over his last four coaching assignments in charge of national teams, Saintfiet was in charge of 28 international matches, winning 3, losing 22, and drawing 3:
Bangladesh (3 months, 3 matches, 0 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw)
Togo (1 year, 9 matches, 2 wins, 5 losses, 2 draws)
Malawi (3 months, 5 matches, 1 win, 4 losses, 0 draws)
Yemen (6 months, 11 matches, 0 wins, 11 losses, 0 draws)
Deeks would say "at least he win 3" :D
Yuh know this fella have SOME kinda belly. Not many ppl would take the Yemen job ... so despite some NT coaches blazing the trail like mercenaries, many would draw the line on Yemen. Not hard to distinguish oneself in that applicant pool.
http://nationalyemen.com/2015/06/20/the-long-struggle-for-yemens-footballers/
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A cursory investigation shows that over his last four coaching assignments in charge of national teams, Saintfiet was in charge of 28 international matches, winning 3, losing 22, and drawing 3:
Bangladesh (3 months, 3 matches, 0 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw)
Togo (1 year, 9 matches, 2 wins, 5 losses, 2 draws)
Malawi (3 months, 5 matches, 1 win, 4 losses, 0 draws)
Yemen (6 months, 11 matches, 0 wins, 11 losses, 0 draws)
Deeks would say "at least he win 3" :D
Yuh know this fella have SOME kinda belly. Not many ppl would take the Yemen job ... so despite some NT coaches blazing the trail like mercenaries, many would draw the line on Yemen. Not hard to distinguish oneself in that applicant pool.
http://nationalyemen.com/2015/06/20/the-long-struggle-for-yemens-footballers/
David john have the belly, this man is a journeyman who can't even coach a division 1. Side in Belgium ...
The way David john spoke was very obvious, he doesn't care about our nation qualifying for the World Cup... it was evident by his body language and everything..
I don't support pappyshows and dictators
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I see nothing wrong with these 2 coaches.
They deserve a chance like everyone else.
I would love to see 2 local coaches on his staff as assistance.
ent yesterday was your bday?
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Djw have no manners and this puppet don't have a chance...
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Eh come on a was greeted by this thread. Got to luv this site.
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So we get a coach from Dollar Rescue?
Well ....we cant be angry if we get what we pay for.
It damn good for we.
Yuh just date yuhself. B yuh old
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Best thread ever on this site.
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this should be a quick hire and fire .............fenwick for April
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I am very displeased to see that in this day and age people in Trinidad ..like the people in Africa carry the belief that a caucasian people from europe are superior to their own people.
It is so sad to see that the TTFA led by Mr John Williams is so backward in his thinking.
I have absolutely no respect for this man ..he has brought shame upon me at this moment.
He has unduly stated in his hiring of this man that any foreign white man would be better than a local because
the white man would get the undivided attention and the utmost respect by all ...it's so disheartening I needn't say more...
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So we get a coach from Dollar Rescue?
Well ....we cant be angry if we get what we pay for.
It damn good for we.
Yuh just date yuhself. B yuh old
I hear that all the time.
I just grow up around "mature" people.....so it does have moments like dat.
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A cursory investigation shows that over his last four coaching assignments in charge of national teams, Saintfiet was in charge of 28 international matches, winning 3, losing 22, and drawing 3:
Bangladesh (3 months, 3 matches, 0 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw)
Togo (1 year, 9 matches, 2 wins, 5 losses, 2 draws)
Malawi (3 months, 5 matches, 1 win, 4 losses, 0 draws)
Yemen (6 months, 11 matches, 0 wins, 11 losses, 0 draws)
Unbelievable. SH got fired for results this year, DJW said in this business results matter but it clearly doesn't in this case.
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A cursory investigation shows that over his last four coaching assignments in charge of national teams, Saintfiet was in charge of 28 international matches, winning 3, losing 22, and drawing 3:
Bangladesh (3 months, 3 matches, 0 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw)
Togo (1 year, 9 matches, 2 wins, 5 losses, 2 draws)
Malawi (3 months, 5 matches, 1 win, 4 losses, 0 draws)
Yemen (6 months, 11 matches, 0 wins, 11 losses, 0 draws)
Unbelievable. SH got fired for results this year, DJW said in this business results matter but it clearly doesn't in this case.
A good question for Lasana to ask DJW.
Lasana....fall een!
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I go away to look after my newborn baby and this utter stupidity occurs? What the hell is all this utter stupidity? I thought DJW was a competent administrator? What the absolute arse is this?
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Tbh he did talk a good talk. He did his research on the players, their mentality, the football culture, team and country. As much as I hated to see Hart go, I have to support my team and my country.
Well... Mr. Saintfiet is our new coach, nothing anyone one of us can do about it other than support him...so...best of luck coach!
What????? to support this crap is to support the TTFA
Were any of these decisions made in the interest of Trinidad and Tobago's football?????
We had two proven coaches running both the Men's and Women's program.Instead we have an unknown with the Women's Program and a man who wouldn't even be hired to coach in the Proleague.
Plus we have a Terrorist running football affairs...what position is that....was that Board approved?
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Tbh he did talk a good talk. He did his research on the players, their mentality, the football culture, team and country. As much as I hated to see Hart go, I have to support my team and my country.
Well... Mr. Saintfiet is our new coach, nothing anyone one of us can do about it other than support him...so...best of luck coach!
What????? to support this crap is to support the TTFA
Were any of these decisions made in the interest of Trinidad and Tobago's football?????
We had two proven coaches running both the Men's and Women's program.Instead we have an unknown with the Women's Program and a man who wouldn't even be hired to coach in the Proleague.
Plus we have a Terrorist running football affairs...what position is that....was that Board approved?
Point being...hope for the best...everything done happen...what can we do???
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I don't how you interpreted I supporting crap from what I said. I'll make it more clear for you now. I do NOT support DJW and his treatment of Hart from his appointment as President to Hart's firing. However what is done is done and my team and country are of paramount importance, so I'm willing to put all this aside for the love of both.
Tbh he did talk a good talk. He did his research on the players, their mentality, the football culture, team and country. As much as I hated to see Hart go, I have to support my team and my country.
Well... Mr. Saintfiet is our new coach, nothing anyone one of us can do about it other than support him...so...best of luck coach!
What????? to support this crap is to support the TTFA
Were any of these decisions made in the interest of Trinidad and Tobago's football?????
We had two proven coaches running both the Men's and Women's program.Instead we have an unknown with the Women's Program and a man who wouldn't even be hired to coach in the Proleague.
Plus we have a Terrorist running football affairs...what position is that....was that Board approved?
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If this is results oriented as the President said..if the new guy does not get it done
The Pres and his administration step down with immediate effect ..
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Rel kicks yes...asylumseeker better than DJW...atleast he give de man ah Bligh...til the 28th...you beat him back in truth...
I can't imagine the pressure this fellas under yea...I optimistically await these 2 GC games...see what he does...any friendlies in the works??
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When I looked at the places he coached my first thoughts were,he must have worked under difficult conditions which led to bad results.I would not write him off too quickly because TT is a much better place for him,his experience should be good for TT,regardless of what he achieved in some of those countries.
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WATCH: Saintfiet faces the media
https://www.youtube.com/v/iqoTkWCWQDc
WATCH: Maylee Attin-Johnson, Shaka Hislop, and Brent Sancho give their thoughts on the hiring of Tom Saintfiet
https://www.youtube.com/v/4-E6NT42l84
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Coach ...
P.S.
If you get invited to Ruby Tuesday, don't go smiling.
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This man under no pressure, he comfortable with getting fired, he expects to get fired. He knows that he is not qualified, he knows he is a joke, so the joke is really on us, TNT.
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DJW say the man wasn't we first choice but he affordable.
He claimed Phillipe Troussier was the first choice but cost too much
Well at least he is being "honest" about why he picked the Belgian.
Anything to back yuh Prezi eh?
I respect your loyalty :)
Palos, I am not a fan of DJW. I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he got elected. He is a successful businessman and runs one of the best clubs, if not the best club in the island. But after his moves, I and the vast majority on the forum had buyers remorse. He is not my president. I was always in Hart's corner. I always say that the federation was not helping Hart enough. especially with friendlies when we had a break. Go and check all my post. When I say DJW was being honest, you see I put quotes on the word honest. I was being sarcastic. We don't know this coach, and quite rightly, after reading his CV, we are up in arms. This not the first time TTFA has done something like this. In 73 they hired an unknown Englishman named Kevin Durity, who almost took the team to the 74 WC. Did Liverpool or Manu hired Kevin after his near success?
And in 2006 they hired Beenhaker. But unlike Verity and Saintfeit, he had serious reputation. Not much people in TT knew about Beenie. But he succeeded. So DJW is on course with coaching decisions made by previous administrations. I don't like it. He has to prove us wrong.
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Just when you think the TTFA couldn't sink any lower, they keep reminding us just how incompitent they really are. You hire a coach LESS qualified than Hart and expect BETTER results! What Alice in wonderland madness is that! And you also blow the opportunity to get Phillipe Omar Troussier because what? He too expensive? That's the excuse so you can hire this lacky? If this guy could be head coach, so could I. You know what, I believe when a TTFA president hire a coach and the coach gets fired after less than four games in charge, the TTFA President should be fired as well. See you next four years ppl, cause this campaign is over.
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so why is T&T appointment so much different to the US and we're in the same position? Someone with no knowledge of TT football compared with someone very familiar with US Soccer
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This man under no pressure, he comfortable with getting fired, he expects to get fired. He knows that he is not qualified, he knows he is a joke, so the joke is really on us, TNT.
Not to mention he getting a pay check. He probably can't believe his good fortune, the man try ah ting and get thru. We probably paying more than Bangladesh too.
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2011? Huh, so his name was tossed into consideration as replacement for Russell. Pfister followed Latas. Very, very telling.
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WATCH: Saintfiet faces the media
WATCH: Maylee Attin-Johnson, Shaka Hislop, and Brent Sancho give their thoughts on the hiring of Tom Saintfiet
https://www.youtube.com/v/4-E6NT42l84
Thank you Maylee, Shaka and Brent you guys spoke some sense. I too thought it was surprising DJW said if Saintfiet doesn't get the job done in March he's out. Even if those were the conditions and the terms discussed, you cyar introduce the man like that to the media and public at large. Other coaches might've walked out.
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Tbh he did talk a good talk. He did his research on the players, their mentality, the football culture, team and country. As much as I hated to see Hart go, I have to support my team and my country.
Well... Mr. Saintfiet is our new coach, nothing anyone one of us can do about it other than support him...so...best of luck coach!
What????? to support this crap is to support the TTFA
Were any of these decisions made in the interest of Trinidad and Tobago's football?????
We had two proven coaches running both the Men's and Women's program.Instead we have an unknown with the Women's Program and a man who wouldn't even be hired to coach in the Proleague.
Plus we have a Terrorist running football affairs...what position is that....was that Board approved?
Carolina Morace might be unknown to you but she is no unknown in women's soccer. Gih Jack he jacket, we should actually be applauding TTFA for this appointment. Hope they actually support the program and not eff it up like they did for Hart and Waldrum!
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DJW letting the man know up front the kinda cacahole he is. What a disrespectful way to introduce a new hire.
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DJW letting the man know up front the kinda cacahole he is. What a disrespectful way to introduce a new hire.
this dude worked for zimbabwe. i'll bet he's heard worse.
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DJW letting the man know up front the kinda cacahole he is. What a disrespectful way to introduce a new hire.
this dude worked for zimbabwe. i'll bet he's heard worse.
Here's hoping his history of working in politically-charged circumstances that are volatile, dotted with ineptitude, self-dealing, unkept commitments and high levels of bullshit, serves him well on this job.
In Bangladesh he got pissed off when five NT players were given permission by the team manager to not attend NT practice, against his knowledge and without his agreement.
Unlike Wim, he won't be ill-prepared for f**kery. But, like Wim, he might join the queue of TTFA creditors.
How much is he being paid anyway? Have not seen or heard the figure.
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SAINTFIET ...Journeyman coach warned win or be fired
T&T Guardian
Belgian Tom Saintfiet is the new football coach of T&T.
He was unveiled to the media at a press conference at the Hotel Marriot yesterday morning, effectively replacing Stephen Hart in the country’s bid to qualify for the 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia.
The little-known Saintfiet who has had short stints with the Bangladesh and Togo national teams earlier this year, as well as Malawi in 2013, Nigeria in 2012; Ethiopia in 2011; Zimbabwe; Namibia in 2008-2010 and Qatar u-17s, was a last choice to Frenchman Phillippe Troussier who proved to be too costly, while Colombian Luis Fernando Suarez and Ecuadorian Eduardo Lara- were both overlooked due to their inability to speak english.
Saintfiet was snapped up as he fitted into the T&T Football Association’s limited budget situation and his contract which contains a clause that would see him being put back on the breadline if the Soca Warriors lose their next two matches against Panama and Honduras at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in March.
President of the TTFA David John-Williams, in introducing the coach, told the audience that football and professional football is a brutal game, noting that World Cup qualifying is about results and getting to the World Cup. “If the results don’t go your way you have to do something different.”
A crassy John-Williams later warned Saintfiet in front of the media saying - “that should he not get the results on March 24th and 28th that he too will be looking for a job.”
The Belgian responded with a chuckle which John-Williams acknowledged before emphasising his point, saying: “He is laughing but we are very serious, because if we don’t get the results on the 24th and 28th of March, we might as well kiss our campaign goodbye.”
Saintfiet who appeared unfazed by the warning said he was elated to have been chosen to coach the twin-island republic, describing TT as a football loving nation which after many attempts, had finally qualified for the World Cup in 2006.
He immediately attempted to protect his reputation from an online report, saying he is a holder of a pro license and was never fired from any federation where he worked.
“I worked many times on short-term deals, sometimes on very difficult missions and most times I brought it to good results.
“I worked also for at club level on different continents in Africa and Europe and Asia.” As a coach Saintfiet said he was recruited at the helm of the national team because he wants to go to the World Cup which is also why he was very close to signing for Nigeria earlier this year, noting his ambitions are not driven by money but by achieving the highest and going to the World Cup.
According to Saintfiet “I believe this dream is possible. Two games have been played, we are fifth position and we need to be in the top three or if needed the fourth position to take us to the play-off.”
The Belgian said he is here, not to do the job alone, saying there are lots of good local coaches and technical team of people who know the league better than him and know the mentality of the players and his aim is to work, not only with his technical team, but also with the local coaches and hear there vision, opinions and ideas.
He noted that he will introduce some new tactics to ensure the team gets the results necessary.
To help the coach John-Williams revealed he is in search of two friendly matches for the team to be played this month, saying he has already spoken to Jamaica which have expressed an interest, and he will also look at Bolivia.
Meanwhile the local football boss revealed that Jamal Shabazz was appointed head coordinator of all football programmes of the TTFA and officially introduced Justin Latapy-George as the new General Secretary.
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Makes no sense ...Former coaches give a thumbs down to TTFA's choice for Head Coach
By Mark Pouchet (T&T Express)
Former national coaches Alvin Corneal and Everald “Gally” Cummings have rubbished the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) latest head coach selection, calling it “disrespectful” to the entire country and saying the decision just didn’t make sense.
Yesterday, TTFA president David John-Williams announced the hiring of Belgium-born Tom Saintfiet, a coach with a plethora of short-term employment stints with low-level football-playing countries.
His last job was with the 187th-ranked Bangladesh team.
“I am not in agreement with having a foreign coach at this time simply because it is an exercise in futility. Foreign coaches can’t walk in here and pick up national players and get them to gel as a team, especially when you don’t have a lot of time,” Corneal said, adding that a coach whose previous assignment was with Bangladesh, makes the selection even more questionable.
“Why are you burdening us with him and you don’t even know him. know anything about (him),” Corneal said. “It is unfair and a disrespect to our local coaches. That is my biggest problem because I feel it for the young coaches who are aspiring to the national level, you not even recognising them but bringing somebody who has no track record of note.”
Corneal, who said he is still smarting from the disrespect shown to dismissed coach Stephen Hart, said the TTFA is “throwing good money at a bad deal” with this latest appointment.
“If we are realistic we would get one or two good local coaches and get the training going. If it (the World Cup campaign) doesn’t succeed, at least we know we will have players mostly between the ages 23-27 trained properly. They would have trained a few months together, played two CFU matches and eight international matches which could form the foundation of the 2022 campaign.”
He added: “This right now is a no-win situation. I am disappointed because the people who are making these decisions, I am not sure they are qualified to make them. I mean no disrespect to any of them but if you take the responsibility of finding a national coach for our country, my God, you got to know something about it,” Corneal said.
“It is even disrespect to the man that is coming. We must not let the TTFA get away with that or else they will take our football down the drain, it doesn’t make good sense.”
Coach of the famed “Strike Squad,” Everald “Gally” Cummings said: “I don’t know the coach. I never heard about him, I don’t like to bad-talk other coaches because as coaches, we are supposed to respect each other but his track record seems thin.”
Cummings instead questioned the TTFA decision-makers’ judgement.
“My opinion is they don’t know what they doing. I don’t think the TTFA presently have the technical ability or expertise to understand what they are looking for when they are looking for a coach,” Cummings said.
He said T&T needed an experienced coach to hit the ground running, who understands the culture and who can execute a quick turnaround.
“I don’t think this was the right decision and I think if we have to make a decision like that, it is better you spend more money on our young players and develop the young players and coaches. You can’t stop the team from trying to get into the World Cup, because that is everybody’s dream....but a local coach would have been a better choice. I don’t see the track record of this man, I don’t understand it ....I find it to be very disrespectful to T&T coaches, the players and the country because of the fact this is taxpayers’ (sic) money and you can’t be giving it away to every Tom, Dick and Harry. The TTFA technical committee have made their decision and they will have to live with it but if things don’t go right, they should all resign!”
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Cummings to TTFA: Resign if coach fails
By Walter Alibey (T&T Guardian)
Everald ‘Gally’ Cummings, a former national football coach for the famous ‘Strike Squad’ has called on those who made the appointment of new coach Tom Saintfiet to resign if the coach does not succeed in taking T&T to the FIFA World Cup in Russia 2018.
Yesterday Cummings and another former national coach Keith Look Loy described the appointment of the coach as a joke, as they believe the the best man for the job was not appointed, based on the record of the Belgian.
The technical committee of the TTFA made recommendations based on the applications before them, after which the Board of the TTFA made a decision based on the recommendations. However the process appeared to have been limited by financial constraints.
Saintfiet, 43, became the preferred choice after the first choice Phillippe Troussier was said to be too costly and the other two options - Eduardo Lara of Ecuador and Colombia’s Luis Fernando Suarez cannot speak english.
According to Cummings, “When you look at the track record of the coach, we can see he is not good enough.” He lashed out at the TTFA, saying they are making decisions for the entire country and should be held accountable. “They seem to be making a mockery of the country and it hurts me and other coaches who have worked hard to develop the sport and take the country to a standard.”
Cummings also criticised the mentality of local officials who believe that international coaches are always better than the locals. “I think what the country really needs now is someone who knows and understands the culture of the T&T players and can get the best from them.
He also took a swipe at the short-term clause that allows the Belgian coach to be fired if he does not win the next two matches at home against Panama and Honduras in March.
Meanwhile, Look Loy, questioned the logic in appointing a coach with a poor record, saying “I thought when you’re looking to recruit a coach, the first thing you look for is how good is his resume.
His personality and other characteristics can be looked at afterwards, but your track record is the first thing you look for, and this guy does not have that.”
He noted that he finds it very astonishing the president would make a comment as the coach was affordable.
Look Loy who has coached successfully at the national youth level in the past, said it would have been better for the TTFA to have left sacked coach Stephen Hart in the job and had given him all the tools he needed.
“I hope for their sake that the coach does well, but personally I doubt it” Look Loy said.
TTFA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
Dexter Skeene - Chairman
Jinelle James
Dr Alvin Henderson
Muhammad Isa
Bertille St Clair
Errol Lovell
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Warner ‘angry’ by TTFA coach selection
By Jelani Beckles (T&T Newsday)
FORMER vice-president of FIFA, Jack Warner, yesterday described the appointment of 43-year-old Belgian Tom Saintfiet as the biggest injustice in the history of Trinidad and Tobago football and believes we have no chance to qualify for the 2018 World Cup in Russia.
Warner declared: “The biggest injustice that has been done to football in the history of this country was done by David John-Williams with the appointment of that coach. Before you fire the one you have (Stephen Hart) you must be able to know the one that you will get.” Hart was fired two weeks ago as head coach of the national senior football team after defeats to Costa Rica and Honduras in the opening matches of the final hexagonal stage of qualification.
Warner added, “Stephen Hart was not only wrongly dismissed but the fact is Stephen Hart was dismissed before they even looked for a replacement. If they could not afford a coach why they didn’t take (hire) Dwight Yorke.” Warner, who was instrumental in bringing in Dutchman Leo Beenhakker to replace Bertille St Clair to revive T&T ’s 2006 World Cup campaign after just one point from three matches, commented on what it takes in recruiting a quality coach. “You look at the coaches, you look at their background, you look at their successes, you look and see who they have coached and you will be able to talk to them. You have to use coaches that have a good track record. This is serious business, this is serious business.
This is a nation’s flag at stake. I am so angry it is not funny.” Football administrator Keith Look Loy was also shocked by the TTFA decision.
“This is quite a surprise.
Nobody expected the TTFA to go that afar afield and to appoint a totally obscure coach that nobody knows about.
When Leo Beenhakker came to T&T he was not known by the public but people who follow football, and who know about football, knew that he was a coach with a tremendous record of achievement in the football of three continents. This man when we look at his resume, it is a resume of failure. He has not achieved anything,” he stated frankly.
He added, “I am astonished, the public as a whole is astonished, but he has the job now.
The team does not belong to him or to David John-Williams and the TTFA so I have to hope that he will do a good job and surprise all of us and that the team will find some form.” Former national footballer Clayton Morris also does not have much hope in Saintfiet and questions David John-Williams’ decision to admit Saintfiet was their second choice. Morris said, “I don’t know how he (John-Williams) could make a statement like that saying this is the second choice coach.
Given the situation, we need somebody to take us to the World Cup, and if you come out upfront and telling us this is the second choice then I think you putting doubt in our minds as concerned citizens.” Morris added, “Any coach taking this job now is really (in) an uphill battle, it is really a challenge.” Former national footballer Angus Eve is however refusing to look at the situation negatively, stating the T&T public can’t judge the new coach yet.
Eve declared, “He has coached a number of places so clearly he has experience.” “I think the important thing here is to understand that we are all in football and if I was to get a job in India the people in India would want to know who I am.” Eve added, “The first time he (Arsene Wenger) went to Arsenal everybody ask where he came from and look what he did.
We have to stop this negativity in our society.
They have appointed a coach and let’s support the coach because he is coaching our team and that is the bottom line. When he does his job then we could know how good a job he can or cannot do.”
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Recession Coach
By Jelani Beckles (T&T Newsday)
EVEN local football is feeling the pinch of the recession.
This as the TT Football Association (TTFA) head yesterday revealed it could not acquire the services of its first choice coach to replace Stephen Hart and instead had to settle for the cheaper choice of Tom Saintfeit as head coach for the TT men’s national football team. Belgian Saintfeit’s last coaching assignment was with the Bangladesh national team which is ranked 183rd out of 200 footballing nations, by world football governing body FIFA.
Saintfeit was officially unveiled as new head coach during a press conference at the Marriott Hotel in Port-of-Spain to replace Hart who was fired on November 24, after almost three and a half years on the job due to a string of disappointing results. The TTFA received applications from around the world but narrowed the list down to four before Saintfeit was chosen. TTFA first choice, Frenchman Philippe Troussier demanded too much money.
TTFA president David John-Williams stated, “He (Tom) was not our first choice for sure, but then he was also affordable as our second choice. Our first choice was way out of what we could afford and I make no apologies for saying that.” Saintfeit and Troussier have experience coaching at national level with both coaching many African countries.
Saintfiet, 43, became the youngest coach in Belgian club football at age 24. He moved on to numerous short stints at national senior level especially in Africa, coaching the likes of Namibia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, Yemen, Malawi, Togo and most recently Bangladesh.
Troussier, 61, who has been coaching consistently since 1983, has led Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Burkina Faso, South Africa, Japan, Morocco and Qatar during his coaching career. John-Williams made it clear that if Saintfiet does not get at least four points (a win and a draw) from TT’s next two World Cup qualifiers, he will be fired. “The reality is that if we don’t get four points come March...our campaign is virtually over (and) we have to start all over again,” John-Williams said. “He (Saintfeit) came highly recommended. He worked in difficult situations in Africa and we feel he can do the job for us. I will also tell you this that if he does not get the job done on the 24 and 28 of March he will be looking for a new job.” TT face Panama on March 24 and CONCACAF powerhouse Mexico on March 28, both at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Portof- Spain.
TT are currently fifth on the sixteam standings in the final round of World Cup qualifying in the CONCACAF region after losing their opening two matches. TT lost 2-0 at home to Costa Rica before travelling to Honduras where it fell 3-1.
Saintfeit said he was honoured to be named TT head coach as this country has a rich football history.
“I am pleased to be here. There were several candidates and TT is a football nation with huge reputation and history. I think a lot of coaches will be jealous that I am standing here.” Saintfeit expressed confidence that he will bring positive results. “I worked already with eight national teams sometimes in difficult situations. It is important to know that I never got fired by any federation where I worked. I worked many times in short term deals in difficult missions and most of the time, I brought good results.” Saintfeit believes TT can still qualify for the World Cup. He jokingly stated that March 29 is his birthday and with two pivotal World Cup qualifiers taking place shortly before, he is hoping to have a pleasant birthday. The Belgian coach plans to seek assistance from local coaches to get their opinions and ideas as Saintfeit believes qualifying for the World Cup will be a collective effort.
Members of the national team have been punished for a lack of discipline in recent months. The former coaching staff led by Hart punished three national players for breaking team camp to attend a party. Saintfeit said he will bring a professional attitude to the job.
“When you (the players) are selected you have to come here not on a holiday when you come from abroad.”
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Trinidad is not in a recession, that's a big lie and illusion...
They still owe Hart and now they have to pay this waste of time coach on top of it...
One word, CORRUPTION...
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Rel kicks yes...asylumseeker better than DJW...atleast he give de man ah Bligh...til the 28th...you beat him back in truth...
I can't imagine the pressure this fellas under yea...I optimistically await these 2 GC games...see what he does...any friendlies in the works??
He is under no pressure, he will take his money and ride out.. David on corruption...
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David john also apppointed this man so people wouldn't question where he get the money for a big money hire..
I called him out before by saying he sabotage Hart and not paying the staff, players or coach .... if he had hired a bigger name he would be questioned and people would realize he was holding back to sabotage Hart and our campaign, so he hire a no name coach claiming no money and recession..
It's a big lie and they can't fool me with that reverse psychology... pull wool over someone else eyes David, I know you have the money and yuh sabotage Hart and our campaign..
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Almost every coach encounters a spell where they will lose games, but it's up to the president and his advisers to evaluate and see if coach Hart plans has totally failed and if there is still hope they needed to give Hart the support to finish the job he has been working on for the pass 3 years.
A new coach with limited success of winning at this level, no experience of football in CONCACAF and no knowledge of our players and now asking the man to get results in such short time just shows the lack of knowledge and vision by the TTFA.
Over the past 3 years Hart who is very passionate about football in TT and a very good coach has given TT football hope but with his removal TT senior men's football can be moving downhill very fast.
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Makes no sense ...Former coaches give a thumbs down to TTFA's choice for Head Coach
By Mark Pouchet (T&T Express)
“I don’t think this was the right decision and I think if we have to make a decision like that, it is better you spend more money on our young players and develop the young players and coaches. You can’t stop the team from trying to get into the World Cup, because that is everybody’s dream....but a local coach would have been a better choice. I don’t see the track record of this man, I don’t understand it ....I find it to be very disrespectful to T&T coaches, the players and the country because of the fact this is taxpayers’ (sic) money and you can’t be giving it away to every Tom, Dick and Harry. The TTFA technical committee have made their decision and they will have to live with it but if things don’t go right, they should all resign!”
I have been wondering for a while recently. So if is the Gov't paying the coach's salary (I remember Gary Hunt in particular hammering out that and (I think) should be set in stone now. Established. Is there a limit on the cost of the coach? Why then would there be rumors that Hart ent getting payed and is the Gov't paying salary? Anybody know the nitty gritty fats on arrangement (and if it change officially since the PNM come in)?
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With all that he has been done and said, I just want to ask forumites how they think the players should respond to this new appointment? Put yourself in their position and reading the discontent aired on this forum.
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Makes no sense ...Former coaches give a thumbs down to TTFA's choice for Head Coach
By Mark Pouchet (T&T Express)
“I don’t think this was the right decision and I think if we have to make a decision like that, it is better you spend more money on our young players and develop the young players and coaches. You can’t stop the team from trying to get into the World Cup, because that is everybody’s dream....but a local coach would have been a better choice. I don’t see the track record of this man, I don’t understand it ....I find it to be very disrespectful to T&T coaches, the players and the country because of the fact this is taxpayers’ (sic) money and you can’t be giving it away to every Tom, Dick and Harry. The TTFA technical committee have made their decision and they will have to live with it but if things don’t go right, they should all resign!”
I have been wondering for a while recently. So if is the Gov't paying the coach's salary (I remember Gary Hunt in particular hammering out that and (I think) should be set in stone now. Established. Is there a limit on the cost of the coach? Why then would there be rumors that Hart ent getting payed and is the Gov't paying salary? Anybody know the nitty gritty fats on arrangement (and if it change officially since the PNM come in)?
Nothing hasn't changed... they still owe money to SH and they will pay this Guy as well, David hiding money and not revealing how much he has access to because if he does, it will be shown that he undermined hart and his staff with money and as a result of his corruption, the players strike almost happened and it created a wedge where we lost to Haiti..
David is at the center of it..
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Makes no sense ...Former coaches give a thumbs down to TTFA's choice for Head Coach
By Mark Pouchet (T&T Express)
“I don’t think this was the right decision and I think if we have to make a decision like that, it is better you spend more money on our young players and develop the young players and coaches. You can’t stop the team from trying to get into the World Cup, because that is everybody’s dream....but a local coach would have been a better choice. I don’t see the track record of this man, I don’t understand it ....I find it to be very disrespectful to T&T coaches, the players and the country because of the fact this is taxpayers’ (sic) money and you can’t be giving it away to every Tom, Dick and Harry. The TTFA technical committee have made their decision and they will have to live with it but if things don’t go right, they should all resign!”
I have been wondering for a while recently. So if is the Gov't paying the coach's salary (I remember Gary Hunt in particular hammering out that and (I think) should be set in stone now. Established. Is there a limit on the cost of the coach? Why then would there be rumors that Hart ent getting payed and is the Gov't paying salary? Anybody know the nitty gritty fats on arrangement (and if it change officially since the PNM come in)?
Nothing hasn't changed... they still owe money to SH and they will pay this Guy as well, David hiding money and not revealing how much he has access to because if he does, it will be shown that he undermined hart and his staff with money and as a result of his corruption, the players strike almost happened and it created a wedge where we lost to Haiti..
David is at the center of it..
So how do you think the players should react with this appointment?
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With all that he has been done and said, I just want to ask forumites how they think the players should respond to this new appointment? Put yourself in their position and reading the discontent aired on this forum.
Show up for practice.
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With all that he has been done and said, I just want to ask forumites how they think the players should respond to this new appointment? Put yourself in their position and reading the discontent aired on this forum.
Show up for practice.
Should they bother about the World Cup 2018 or just go through the motions and forget about it?
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Saintfiet and Morace appointed Head Coaches of T&T Men and Women Senior Teams.
TTFA Media.
(http://ttfootball.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Women-Head-Coach.jpg)
(http://ttfootball.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Men-Head-Coach.jpg)
...the other two members of ABBA were reportedly unavailable for comment.
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Makes no sense ...Former coaches give a thumbs down to TTFA's choice for Head Coach
By Mark Pouchet (T&T Express)
“I don’t think this was the right decision and I think if we have to make a decision like that, it is better you spend more money on our young players and develop the young players and coaches. You can’t stop the team from trying to get into the World Cup, because that is everybody’s dream....but a local coach would have been a better choice. I don’t see the track record of this man, I don’t understand it ....I find it to be very disrespectful to T&T coaches, the players and the country because of the fact this is taxpayers’ (sic) money and you can’t be giving it away to every Tom, Dick and Harry. The TTFA technical committee have made their decision and they will have to live with it but if things don’t go right, they should all resign!”
I have been wondering for a while recently. So if is the Gov't paying the coach's salary (I remember Gary Hunt in particular hammering out that and (I think) should be set in stone now. Established. Is there a limit on the cost of the coach? Why then would there be rumors that Hart ent getting payed and is the Gov't paying salary? Anybody know the nitty gritty fats on arrangement (and if it change officially since the PNM come in)?
Nothing hasn't changed... they still owe money to SH and they will pay this Guy as well, David hiding money and not revealing how much he has access to because if he does, it will be shown that he undermined hart and his staff with money and as a result of his corruption, the players strike almost happened and it created a wedge where we lost to Haiti..
David is at the center of it..
So how do you think the players should react with this appointment?
I answered this on another thread brother..
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Makes no sense ...Former coaches give a thumbs down to TTFA's choice for Head Coach
By Mark Pouchet (T&T Express)
“I don’t think this was the right decision and I think if we have to make a decision like that, it is better you spend more money on our young players and develop the young players and coaches. You can’t stop the team from trying to get into the World Cup, because that is everybody’s dream....but a local coach would have been a better choice. I don’t see the track record of this man, I don’t understand it ....I find it to be very disrespectful to T&T coaches, the players and the country because of the fact this is taxpayers’ (sic) money and you can’t be giving it away to every Tom, Dick and Harry. The TTFA technical committee have made their decision and they will have to live with it but if things don’t go right, they should all resign!”
I have been wondering for a while recently. So if is the Gov't paying the coach's salary (I remember Gary Hunt in particular hammering out that and (I think) should be set in stone now. Established. Is there a limit on the cost of the coach? Why then would there be rumors that Hart ent getting payed and is the Gov't paying salary? Anybody know the nitty gritty fats on arrangement (and if it change officially since the PNM come in)?
Nothing hasn't changed... they still owe money to SH and they will pay this Guy as well, David hiding money and not revealing how much he has access to because if he does, it will be shown that he undermined hart and his staff with money and as a result of his corruption, the players strike almost happened and it created a wedge where we lost to Haiti..
David is at the center of it..
So how do you think the players should react with this appointment?
It's a double edge sword... do they strike and wait for a regime change or go out and play...
If they go out and play they condone David underhanded tactics and by winning he looks brilliant, even more so if we make the big dance..
what David has done shouldn't go unpunished or he shouldn't get away with it.. but we also have a chance to go to the World Cup..it's up to the players really, we can speculate but it boils down to them, whatever they decide I support, if they lose I wouldn't be mad because I know what environment they are playing under and it's toxic with David john..
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With all that he has been done and said, I just want to ask forumites how they think the players should respond to this new appointment? Put yourself in their position and reading the discontent aired on this forum.
Show up for practice.
Should they bother about the World Cup 2018 or just go through the motions and forget about it?
Report for work, Thomo. Report for work.
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With all that he has been done and said, I just want to ask forumites how they think the players should respond to this new appointment? Put yourself in their position and reading the discontent aired on this forum.
Show up for practice.
Should they bother about the World Cup 2018 or just go through the motions and forget about it?
Report for work, Thomo. Report for work.
LOL I guess I'll have to take that quip in good jest as I'm not too sure what you mean. I hope the players can be galvanised, knuckle down, do the business in the next couple of months because I really want them to go to the World Cup. I had to miss 2006 as my wife was due to give birth but I definitely will go to Russia 2018 to support if we qualify.
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THIS IS HOW WE ARE VIEWED
New T&T coach gets job by default -- and supposedly why Klinsmann said no
by Paul Kennedy, December 8th, 2016 5:37PM
After the USA lost its first two games in the Hexagonal, U.S. Soccer fired Jurgen Klinsmann and hired old-hand Bruce Arena.
Say what you want about the merits of rehiring a coach who had been fired 10 years earlier, Arena is an accomplished coach, having had plenty of success since leaving the national team with three MLS titles at the LA Galaxy.
Trinidad & Tobago also lost its first two Hex games and fired its head coach, Stephen Hart. The T&T Football Association's replacement? Well, you'll probably never heard of Belgian Tom Saintfiet, and he wasn't even the TTFA's first choice, to boot.
The selection process began when the TTFA's technical committee came up with a short list of candidates for the job:
-- Saintfiet, who was coaching Bangladesh -- for all of three games (one tie and two losses) -- after almost a decade spent wandering around Africa;
-- Frenchman Philippe Troussier, who coached co-host Japan at the 2002 World Cup;
-- Colombian Luis Fernando Suarez, who coached Honduras at the 2014 World Cup; and
-- Colombian Eduardo Lara, El Salvador's U-20 national team coach.
It wasn't exactly an exhaustive search -- Wired868.com reported that the technical committee did its research via Google -- and its ranking the candidates -- Troussier, Saintfiet, Suarez and Lara -- was based on the working assumption -- never confirmed -- that Suarez and Lara did not speak English.
Troussier was the first choice but was too expensive for the notoriously cash-poor TTFA, leaving Saintfiet as the Soca Warriors' new head coach by default.
How long the Belgian has the job remains to be seen. At Saintfiet's introductory press conference, TTFA president David John-Williams said he was going to give the new coach two games to turn the Soca Warriors around.
“I will also tell you this," said John-Williams, "if he doesn’t get the job done on the 24th and 28th of March, he will be looking for a job. And I make no apologies for saying that. He is laughing but we’re very serious. Because if we don’t get the job done on the 24th and 28th of March, we might as well kiss our campaign goodbye.”
A side note to the search process -- and of interest to Americans -- is that Wired868.com reported that John-Williams supposedly spoke to Klinsmann, who wasn't available -- because he had already agreed terms to coach in China.
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Tbh he did talk a good talk. He did his research on the players, their mentality, the football culture, team and country. As much as I hated to see Hart go, I have to support my team and my country.
Well... Mr. Saintfiet is our new coach, nothing anyone one of us can do about it other than support him...so...best of luck coach!
What????? to support this crap is to support the TTFA
Were any of these decisions made in the interest of Trinidad and Tobago's football?????
We had two proven coaches running both the Men's and Women's program.Instead we have an unknown with the Women's Program and a man who wouldn't even be hired to coach in the Proleague.
Plus we have a Terrorist running football affairs...what position is that....was that Board approved?
Carolina Morace might be unknown to you but she is no unknown in women's soccer. Gih Jack he jacket, we should actually be applauding TTFA for this appointment. Hope they actually support the program and not eff it up like they did for Hart and Waldrum!
Fella unknown in the sense that she has not fully proven herself... allyuh looking at the Canadians national team FIFA ranking when she was there ask yourself what schools the players on that team were attending...figure why her only national stint after that is T&T.....
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Rel kicks yes...asylumseeker better than DJW...atleast he give de man ah Bligh...til the 28th...you beat him back in truth...
I can't imagine the pressure this fellas under yea...I optimistically await these 2 GC games...see what he does...any friendlies in the works??
He is under no pressure, he will take his money and ride out.. David on corruption...
Corruption of what though?
I can't logically conclude that DJW is purposely trying to sabotage this campaign. It benefits no one including his own administration
Tell me that he and his technical committee are incompetent, i could live with that.
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Rel kicks yes...asylumseeker better than DJW...atleast he give de man ah Bligh...til the 28th...you beat him back in truth...
I can't imagine the pressure this fellas under yea...I optimistically await these 2 GC games...see what he does...any friendlies in the works??
He is under no pressure, he will take his money and ride out.. David on corruption...
Corruption of what though?
I can't logically conclude that DJW is purposely trying to sabotage this campaign. It benefits no one including his own administration
Tell me that he and his technical committee are incompetent, i could live with that.
What did it benefit JW when he sold out to the US in '89? US is in similar situation as then, so to T&T.
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Rel kicks yes...asylumseeker better than DJW...atleast he give de man ah Bligh...til the 28th...you beat him back in truth...
I can't imagine the pressure this fellas under yea...I optimistically await these 2 GC games...see what he does...any friendlies in the works??
He is under no pressure, he will take his money and ride out.. David on corruption...
Corruption of what though?
I can't logically conclude that DJW is purposely trying to sabotage this campaign. It benefits no one including his own administration
Tell me that he and his technical committee are incompetent, i could live with that.
Read my other thread and it explains some of the corruption.. I'll give you a few hints, sports betting, bribery for manipulation of results, external interference, should I continue?
Trinidad made a statement during Harts tenure under Tim Kee, and that statement was, we can match you and beat you with our coach and the players coming together, people don't like wild cards, TT is a wild card... you need to dismantle that wild card
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Contro, I feel your pain, honestly. But sometime you does come up with some theories and conspiracies that does have my imagination exploding.
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Fully proven??? Just exactly what is that supposed to mean? I know she definitely not perfect. But even Don Leo had his failures. And Waldrum's only national team experience is with T&T.
Excerpts from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Morace
Morace holds a UEFA PRO License and is probably best known for having been the first woman to coach a professional men's football team, Viterbese of Italian Serie C1, a post she took in June 1999.
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For 5 years from 2000–2005, she was head coach for Italy's national women's team, qualifying twice for the European Championships.
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In February 2009 she was announced as the new head coach of the Canadian national women's team.[6] Under her guidance, Canada won the 2010 CONCACAF, 2010 and 2011 Cyprus Cups and 2010 Four Nations Tournament.
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Over her 2.5 years in charge Morace improved Canada's FIFA ranking from 11th to 6th position in the World.
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From 2011 Carolina Morace has been leading and conducting FIFA Coaching Courses around the world as a FIFA Ambassador and Instructor.
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In On September 17, 2015 it was announced that Morace had been appointed Technical Director of a Men's National Premier League Club Floreat Athena FC in Western Australia.
A little bit more from: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/07/22/carolina-morace-steps-dow_n_906997.html
Morace's players were fiercely loyal to their coach, lauding her for soccer smarts and a stylish approach to the game. They pointed to her for their rise up the world rankings.
"Tactically I've never had a coach teach me the things she did," said Canadian forward Melissa Tancredi, who has made 64 appearances for the senior national team. "She was a tactical genius and she brought it on the field."
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Fully proven??? Just exactly what is that supposed to mean? I know she definitely not perfect. But even Don Leo had his failures. And Waldrum's only national team experience is with T&T.
Excerpts from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Morace
Morace holds a UEFA PRO License and is probably best known for having been the first woman to coach a professional men's football team, Viterbese of Italian Serie C1, a post she took in June 1999.
...
For 5 years from 2000–2005, she was head coach for Italy's national women's team, qualifying twice for the European Championships.
...
In February 2009 she was announced as the new head coach of the Canadian national women's team.[6] Under her guidance, Canada won the 2010 CONCACAF, 2010 and 2011 Cyprus Cups and 2010 Four Nations Tournament.
...
Over her 2.5 years in charge Morace improved Canada's FIFA ranking from 11th to 6th position in the World.
...
From 2011 Carolina Morace has been leading and conducting FIFA Coaching Courses around the world as a FIFA Ambassador and Instructor.
...
In On September 17, 2015 it was announced that Morace had been appointed Technical Director of a Men's National Premier League Club Floreat Athena FC in Western Australia.
A little bit more from: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/07/22/carolina-morace-steps-dow_n_906997.html
Morace's players were fiercely loyal to their coach, lauding her for soccer smarts and a stylish approach to the game. They pointed to her for their rise up the world rankings.
"Tactically I've never had a coach teach me the things she did," said Canadian forward Melissa Tancredi, who has made 64 appearances for the senior national team. "She was a tactical genius and she brought it on the field."
This is the only good decision made by the ttfa... she's a good coach and can do well for the program...
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Fully proven??? Just exactly what is that supposed to mean? I know she definitely not perfect. But even Don Leo had his failures. And Waldrum's only national team experience is with T&T.
Excerpts from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Morace
Morace holds a UEFA PRO License and is probably best known for having been the first woman to coach a professional men's football team, Viterbese of Italian Serie C1, a post she took in June 1999.
...
For 5 years from 2000–2005, she was head coach for Italy's national women's team, qualifying twice for the European Championships.
...
In February 2009 she was announced as the new head coach of the Canadian national women's team.[6] Under her guidance, Canada won the 2010 CONCACAF, 2010 and 2011 Cyprus Cups and 2010 Four Nations Tournament.
...
Over her 2.5 years in charge Morace improved Canada's FIFA ranking from 11th to 6th position in the World.
...
From 2011 Carolina Morace has been leading and conducting FIFA Coaching Courses around the world as a FIFA Ambassador and Instructor.
...
In On September 17, 2015 it was announced that Morace had been appointed Technical Director of a Men's National Premier League Club Floreat Athena FC in Western Australia.
A little bit more from: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/07/22/carolina-morace-steps-dow_n_906997.html
Morace's players were fiercely loyal to their coach, lauding her for soccer smarts and a stylish approach to the game. They pointed to her for their rise up the world rankings.
"Tactically I've never had a coach teach me the things she did," said Canadian forward Melissa Tancredi, who has made 64 appearances for the senior national team. "She was a tactical genius and she brought it on the field."
But guess who helped build that program - Hart....
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Contro, I feel your pain, honestly. But sometime you does come up with some theories and conspiracies that does have my imagination exploding.
You're not feeling my pain Deeks, so stop saying that because your boy is in power and he has ruined our chances... you can call my intelligence and intuition conspiracy theories or what have you but they are real and exist in the football environment in TT... its funny because most people don't understand the level of corruption that exists in our football.. they continue to be bamboozled with lack of talent, we have no money, our players not up to par, for decades they have been spinning that...
You see during enslavement, there were two tiers, the house tier and the field tier - what we have is the dominance of the house tier that facilitates the downfall, while the field tier revolts... however, fast forward to the 21st century, we have the field tier which is not limited to one particular race, is now educated and well informed, so injustice is made public which angers the house tier and their superiors autocratic rule..
You see it is beyond blind patriotism, its fairness and seeing the game played in its natural and uninterrupted state... if TT weren't talented or not up to par, I would settle for their results but that isn't the case... TT is talented enough to upset the equation that the house tier needs to protect because their loyalty is not to justice and fairness, it's to money and their superiors who have them there to ensure the field tier doesn't get out of line...
I'm disappointed in you Deeks, I expected more, much more..
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Fully proven??? Just exactly what is that supposed to mean? I know she definitely not perfect. But even Don Leo had his failures. And Waldrum's only national team experience is with T&T.
Excerpts from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Morace
Morace holds a UEFA PRO License and is probably best known for having been the first woman to coach a professional men's football team, Viterbese of Italian Serie C1, a post she took in June 1999.
...
For 5 years from 2000–2005, she was head coach for Italy's national women's team, qualifying twice for the European Championships.
...
In February 2009 she was announced as the new head coach of the Canadian national women's team.[6] Under her guidance, Canada won the 2010 CONCACAF, 2010 and 2011 Cyprus Cups and 2010 Four Nations Tournament.
...
Over her 2.5 years in charge Morace improved Canada's FIFA ranking from 11th to 6th position in the World.
...
From 2011 Carolina Morace has been leading and conducting FIFA Coaching Courses around the world as a FIFA Ambassador and Instructor.
...
In On September 17, 2015 it was announced that Morace had been appointed Technical Director of a Men's National Premier League Club Floreat Athena FC in Western Australia.
A little bit more from: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/07/22/carolina-morace-steps-dow_n_906997.html
Morace's players were fiercely loyal to their coach, lauding her for soccer smarts and a stylish approach to the game. They pointed to her for their rise up the world rankings.
"Tactically I've never had a coach teach me the things she did," said Canadian forward Melissa Tancredi, who has made 64 appearances for the senior national team. "She was a tactical genius and she brought it on the field."
But guess who helped build that program - Hart....
Are you sure about that? Because the only place I've ever heard mention of SH in conjunction with the Canadian Women's Soccer Program is from you.
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Rel kicks yes...asylumseeker better than DJW...atleast he give de man ah Bligh...til the 28th...you beat him back in truth...
I can't imagine the pressure this fellas under yea...I optimistically await these 2 GC games...see what he does...any friendlies in the works??
He is under no pressure, he will take his money and ride out.. David on corruption...
Corruption of what though?
I can't logically conclude that DJW is purposely trying to sabotage this campaign. It benefits no one including his own administration
Tell me that he and his technical committee are incompetent, i could live with that.
Hanlon's Razor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor)
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity
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Fully proven??? Just exactly what is that supposed to mean? I know she definitely not perfect. But even Don Leo had his failures. And Waldrum's only national team experience is with T&T.
Excerpts from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Morace
Morace holds a UEFA PRO License and is probably best known for having been the first woman to coach a professional men's football team, Viterbese of Italian Serie C1, a post she took in June 1999.
...
For 5 years from 2000–2005, she was head coach for Italy's national women's team, qualifying twice for the European Championships.
...
In February 2009 she was announced as the new head coach of the Canadian national women's team.[6] Under her guidance, Canada won the 2010 CONCACAF, 2010 and 2011 Cyprus Cups and 2010 Four Nations Tournament.
...
Over her 2.5 years in charge Morace improved Canada's FIFA ranking from 11th to 6th position in the World.
...
From 2011 Carolina Morace has been leading and conducting FIFA Coaching Courses around the world as a FIFA Ambassador and Instructor.
...
In On September 17, 2015 it was announced that Morace had been appointed Technical Director of a Men's National Premier League Club Floreat Athena FC in Western Australia.
A little bit more from: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/07/22/carolina-morace-steps-dow_n_906997.html
Morace's players were fiercely loyal to their coach, lauding her for soccer smarts and a stylish approach to the game. They pointed to her for their rise up the world rankings.
"Tactically I've never had a coach teach me the things she did," said Canadian forward Melissa Tancredi, who has made 64 appearances for the senior national team. "She was a tactical genius and she brought it on the field."
But guess who helped build that program - Hart....
Are you sure about that? Because the only place I've ever heard mention of SH in conjunction with the Canadian Women's Soccer Program is from you.
As the sun rises in the east...
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Transcript between DJW and Saintfiet
DJW - We looking for a coach for the National Team
TS - I hear yuhs a crook. How do I know that I can trust you?
DJW - You can't
TS - Ok. So what is the compensation then?
DJW - Well you have to do volunteer placement for 6 months. Ask Hart about that.
TS - I don't know David. I don't think that I qualified.
DJW - Dont worry about that. Anything is possible.. look at Trump. look at me
TS - Since you put it that way, I'll be on the next flight to Trinidad
DJW - Cool
TS - Thanks David. I always wanted to coach the Bravos.
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let d italian coach d mens team too
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I'm disappointed in you Deeks, I expected more, much more..
Contro, DJW is not my man. He went thru the election process and win. To your credit, you always said in your post that you don't trust him and we should not wish for him to be elected. I give you credit for that prediction. there is no question whoever is in power, there is always something lacking that screws up the progress of the MNT. Bad admin choices, lack of money to do essential things for the team to be able to compete against the Central Americans. From Jack to DJW, is the same monkey hole.
But some of them guys, have to take some of the blame also. The fringe players who playing overseas and does get call up regularly needed to stay in top shape by whatever means necessary. There is no way Hart could get them men fit in five days time. They should be fit already. The bench players who does get call up by Hart should keep these things in mind. I think they let Hart down. They allow Haiti to pip them. Hart get blame for that. How could that be.
What I can't believe, is the committee who supposedly vote for this. I eh sure all of them voted.
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What's the highest level of the women's game after national team play???? That's where Waldrum was....
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let d italian coach d mens team too
Up to press time she was heard asking for contract renegotiations to commess commence, upon realising that she passed on the trifecta of TD, Head Women's coach and Interim Men's Coach.
DJW was allegedly overheard stating "what contract? Yuh on ah CEPEP!!!
Thinking that Guardiola would be visiting, Carolina lauded the president for his organizational vision and let the renegotiation talk slide.
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Well, I'll give points for how St Feet handle himself in the media. Just that alone shows some character. At least we got to hope for the players. This crop need an opportunity to be in the World Cup and KJ might be given the chance to silence some career long critics at the big dance.
Hopeful
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I'm disappointed in you Deeks, I expected more, much more..
Contro, DJW is not my man. He went thru the election process and win. To your credit, you always said in your post that you don't trust him and we should not wish for him to be elected. I give you credit for that prediction. there is no question whoever is in power, there is always something lacking that screws up the progress of the MNT. Bad admin choices, lack of money to do essential things for the team to be able to compete against the Central Americans. From Jack to DJW, is the same monkey hole.
But some of them guys, have to take some of the blame also. The fringe players who playing overseas and does get call up regularly needed to stay in top shape by whatever means necessary. There is no way Hart could get them men fit in five days time. They should be fit already. The bench players who does get call up by Hart should keep these things in mind. I think they let Hart down. They allow Haiti to pip them. Hart get blame for that. How could that be.
What I can't believe, is the committee who supposedly vote for this. I eh sure all of them voted.
The players were going to strike the night before, an 11th hour decision was reached and still wasn't rock solid... djw destabilized the team and some of the players were under his team, so he made sure to throw a monkey wrench in there...
You can't operate under that pressure, when you have an autocrat like David undermining you, reason the players and team started losing, it's not rocket science, the players are partly to blame yes but djw is the main reason... you work hard to get to this point, djw used Hart to get to the hex and now he will negotiate a new deal for tv rights worldwide and reap the full pay check, which the fed will never see, only him and his cabal, they are corrupt and it's there for everyone to see.. no mystery..
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WATCH: Shaka Hislop's reaction
https://www.youtube.com/v/xMl4LAJydoU
WATCH: Kelvin Jack's reaction
https://www.youtube.com/v/SIn4QEEPVxQ
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Well said Shaka and Kelvin. Shaka took the diplomatic approach and Kelvin articulated by not holding water in his mouth. They both got their point across well and I fully agree :beermug:
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Well said by two of our heroes....Kelvin was blunt but spot on with reference to the duties of the administration... Very heavy on sound bites which could be heard over and over again
When former players as Kelvin and Shaka explain what they see ...I can exhale ...there is lots of life to live for
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"clueless... laughable... actually doing their best"
I think that pretty much says it! :beermug:
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Hello a Fan here 👏 🤓 Hayek Don't know if to say great points by Kelvin and Shaka because us fans are way to emotional and don't know much so maybe Andre should interview a few more players to find out how good these interviews were lol .
Sound worst than an insider even tho he's a fan himself basically heaped all fans in one big bag ,and interrupted kelvin when he was on fire :pissedoff: ,should have also probed to let him call players names since Kelvin don't seem to care one sod .
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@AndreSooklal yuh have to do yuh best to say "Trinidad and Tobago.
As far as the videos, both Hislop and Jack delivered their opinions within their personalities. Both were frank and both signalled to the public and to officialdom.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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You guys need to stop hating on the new coach.
There is nothing we can do about it. Do some independent research on him and see what kind of coach he is. He is pretty decent and he is very qualified. I loved Harty, but in all honesty, based on the team's results over the last 12 months, and the apparent discord within the team, he had to go.
In an ideal world, we would have a coach in Hart and a team of players who are fully behind him, but that ship has sailed and we need to stop with this negativity and hate.
DJW is an arrogant dictator, but WE voted him in after crying down Tim Kee......and we had Tim Kee after crying down Jack Warner.
Flex did a pretty decent interview with the man.............just give him a blasted chance and judge him from that!!
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You guys need to stop hating on the new coach.
There is nothing we can do about it. Do some independent research on him and see what kind of coach he is. He is pretty decent and he is very qualified. I loved Harty, but in all honesty, based on the team's results over the last 12 months, and the apparent discord within the team, he had to go.
In an ideal world, we would have a coach in Hart and a team of players who are fully behind him, but that ship has sailed and we need to stop with this negativity and hate.
DJW is an arrogant dictator, but WE voted him in after crying down Tim Kee......and we had Tim Kee after crying down Jack Warner.
Flex did a pretty decent interview with the man.............just give him a blasted chance and judge him from that!!
I don't think most people's gripe is with the new coach but more or less the way in which they federation dismissed Hart to acquire the services of Saintfiet. If you were following closely, it will be fair to say the way in which everything went down was shady as Hart was placed in a position to fail.
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First things first, let's not talk about the team performance when the dictator took over, Hart was undermined and sabotaged from the beginning by Shabazz and the dictator... so I don't want to hear people nonsense about Hart performance... he and his staff was undermined and directly resulted as well as the players not performing well...
Secondly I agree 100% with kelvin and share most of his sentiments except for fenwick..
Thirdly, this coach is a puppet that I will not fully support, he is not selecting the team, how can I get behind a coach who is being told who to select by Shabazz and the dictator, people who know nothing about football, it's a joke...
If the new coach was up to par, he would come in and review the previous tapes and select his team after seeing the local players as well.. instead he remains a puppet and is told who he should select..
I'm sorry, if I was a coach I would not work under that, I would allow suggestions but then I would look at the previous matches, see the games locally and make an independent decision on my own, together with the players available overseas.. he has not done this, which means he doesnt have the power, Shabazz has the power, this is shabazzes team.. I can't support that
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Let’s support Tom Saintfiet
By Andre Baptiste (T&T Guardian)
The T&T Football Association (TTFA) on December 7, announced a new football coach in Tom Saintfiet, and it is not the “Big name coach” that many expected, with loads of results on a long resume, but rather a somewhat young sports psychologist with lots of ambition and desire, and for whom discipline seems to be a priority.
And this has clearly upset several of the leading football experts in the country who believe that his lack of experience and his previous work, do not suggest he is the “right man” for the moment. Whether that is true or not, can only be determined in the future by the results that will be recorded.
For the moment, we have to all be supportive of this coach, that is, if we are all desirous of T&T making it to the Russia 2018. Because it is clear that unless we operate as a team - fans, players, business, etc- with a clear focus and united front, this will not be achieved. We need to find a way to forget about the questions.
The new coach needs our support and guidance to ensure that our team can gain the best result possible in the upcoming matches so it can grow in confidence ahead of the two crucial World Cup matches in March.
The news that there will be an opportunity for Saintfiet to watch and learn more about the players when the Soca Warriors play two matches against Nicaragua, has to be good news. The only question being, will all the players be available, as it is Christmas season and some of them will be on holidays and many of them get caught up in the festivities.
What is also important now is that several of the young players in T&T understand how important it is to continue their personal development if they’re to be selected. This incentive should hopefully assist young players to go that extra mile to ensure they are match fit and ready if called upon.
Everyone, but in particular the last coach Stephen Hart, has experienced the pain of his players not performing as they should and not committed many expected and for that Hart has paid the ultimate price - being dismissed because of the team’s poor results in its first two World Cup Qualifiers.
In the next few months, this country will be able to understand fully the mentality of the players selected for national duty and whether they understand their respective roles and responsibilities as against that of just making up numbers. This should not be about playing for Tom Saintfiet but instead it must be about representing T&T with love and pride with the understanding that all of the country is behind them. There are many times, when a country needs a lift from all the gloom and doom, and the many loads of negativity that prevail and in sports, this is one of the ways of returning smiles to the faces of citizens of T&T, as everyone will follow the team’s progress.
In January, there are two important fixtures for Gold Cup 2017 qualification as well, and this will be further opportunities to measure the team’s progress and in what direction T&T is heading before the two critical matches in March arrives.
Panama on March 24 and Mexico four days later, are two home matches that T&T must earn maximum points in the end, and we need to be prepared to change the starting times for both matches in favour of our team, and therefore let us hope that the TTFA will recognise the need to do very quickly and ensure that a favourable kick-off time for team T&T, is secured.
In the meantime, let us stand behind and support our coach in the coming months, after all he is working for us and trying to qualify T&T for its second World Cup.
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Let’s support Tom Saintfiet
By Andre Baptiste (T&T Guardian)
The T&T Football Association (TTFA) on December 7, announced a new football coach in Tom Saintfiet, and it is not the “Big name coach” that many expected, with loads of results on a long resume, but rather a somewhat young sports psychologist with lots of ambition and desire, and for whom discipline seems to be a priority.
And this has clearly upset several of the leading football experts in the country who believe that his lack of experience and his previous work, do not suggest he is the “right man” for the moment. Whether that is true or not, can only be determined in the future by the results that will be recorded.
For the moment, we have to all be supportive of this coach, that is, if we are all desirous of T&T making it to the Russia 2018. Because it is clear that unless we operate as a team - fans, players, business, etc- with a clear focus and united front, this will not be achieved. We need to find a way to forget about the questions.
The new coach needs our support and guidance to ensure that our team can gain the best result possible in the upcoming matches so it can grow in confidence ahead of the two crucial World Cup matches in March.
The news that there will be an opportunity for Saintfiet to watch and learn more about the players when the Soca Warriors play two matches against Nicaragua, has to be good news. The only question being, will all the players be available, as it is Christmas season and some of them will be on holidays and many of them get caught up in the festivities.
What is also important now is that several of the young players in T&T understand how important it is to continue their personal development if they’re to be selected. This incentive should hopefully assist young players to go that extra mile to ensure they are match fit and ready if called upon.
Everyone, but in particular the last coach Stephen Hart, has experienced the pain of his players not performing as they should and not committed many expected and for that Hart has paid the ultimate price - being dismissed because of the team’s poor results in its first two World Cup Qualifiers.
In the next few months, this country will be able to understand fully the mentality of the players selected for national duty and whether they understand their respective roles and responsibilities as against that of just making up numbers. This should not be about playing for Tom Saintfiet but instead it must be about representing T&T with love and pride with the understanding that all of the country is behind them. There are many times, when a country needs a lift from all the gloom and doom, and the many loads of negativity that prevail and in sports, this is one of the ways of returning smiles to the faces of citizens of T&T, as everyone will follow the team’s progress.
In January, there are two important fixtures for Gold Cup 2017 qualification as well, and this will be further opportunities to measure the team’s progress and in what direction T&T is heading before the two critical matches in March arrives.
Panama on March 24 and Mexico four days later, are two home matches that T&T must earn maximum points in the end, and we need to be prepared to change the starting times for both matches in favour of our team, and therefore let us hope that the TTFA will recognise the need to do very quickly and ensure that a favourable kick-off time for team T&T, is secured.
In the meantime, let us stand behind and support our coach in the coming months, after all he is working for us and trying to qualify T&T for its second World Cup.
No offense fearless one, but shut your mouth nah on this one...
I not supporting any puppet who lies and if I support him that means I support the dictator and Shabazz ...
Don't become the toothless one sir...
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This coach would turn out to be a poor imitation of Beenhaaker strategically and a more blunted tactician than Stephen Hart.
As a coach he seems to have some organizational knowledge but is limited tactically as well as strategically.
His teams don't seem to have the knowledge of the fine details in carrying out his tactics when playing behind the ball.
He doesn't counter attack well.
He likes to play a somewhat similar tempo to Trinidad but all the balls are predictable i.e all forward passing.
His defenders play too loose.
Without Ken Jones he will be handicapped.
His one weapon that is key to his style is Kenwyn Jones.
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Anyone who went to a reputable university and has a formal education knows using the term "Third World" is derogatory and demeaning.
Educators/Professors no longer use that term, its developing and developed nations...
SANTHIEF next time you decide to insult a club owner, at least try to be politically correct.
You fit in perfectly with the dictator and the terrorist because they too have no manners...
Furthermore, Hart had manners, he knew how to conduct himself and how to coach a team in a professional manner. You can learn a thing or two from a son of the soil...
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Keep them honest- Controversial . It is like calling African- Americans- You People.
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Any grown man that could sit there and have a football president publicly say he would be fired if he didn't win two games, and then further embarrass him by saying, "he's there smiling blah blah blah.." is a CLOWN.
He has the balls to show off on Sancho and used the phrase, "Third World" via a phone convo, but couldn't tell the other clowns in the clown-car, "Well wait a minute let me see what the CAPTAIN of this team can bring to table before i get rid of him."
This shit is so damn surreal to me I don't even know what to say anymore...I know we forumites joke around and say is always some drama or bacahnal, but damn man it's friggin ridiculous now...oh gosh man allyuh ease up lil bit nah????
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This coach would turn out to be a poor imitation of Beenhaaker strategically and a more blunted tactician than Stephen Hart.
As a coach he seems to have some organizational knowledge but is limited tactically as well as strategically.
His teams don't seem to have the knowledge of the fine details in carrying out his tactics when playing behind the ball.
He doesn't counter attack well.
He likes to play a somewhat similar tempo to Trinidad but all the balls are predictable i.e all forward passing.
His defenders play too loose.
Without Ken Jones he will be handicapped.
His one weapon that is key to his style is Kenwyn Jones.
This observation is based on you seeing his previous teams?
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You guys need to stop hating on the new coach.
There is nothing we can do about it. Do some independent research on him and see what kind of coach he is. He is pretty decent and he is very qualified. I loved Harty, but in all honesty, based on the team's results over the last 12 months, and the apparent discord within the team, he had to go.
In an ideal world, we would have a coach in Hart and a team of players who are fully behind him, but that ship has sailed and we need to stop with this negativity and hate.
DJW is an arrogant dictator, but WE voted him in after crying down Tim Kee......and we had Tim Kee after crying down Jack Warner.
Flex did a pretty decent interview with the man.............just give him a blasted chance and judge him from that!!
Well said! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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You guys need to stop hating on the new coach.
There is nothing we can do about it. Do some independent research on him and see what kind of coach he is. He is pretty decent and he is very qualified. I loved Harty, but in all honesty, based on the team's results over the last 12 months, and the apparent discord within the team, he had to go.
In an ideal world, we would have a coach in Hart and a team of players who are fully behind him, but that ship has sailed and we need to stop with this negativity and hate.
DJW is an arrogant dictator, but WE voted him in after crying down Tim Kee......and we had Tim Kee after crying down Jack Warner.
Flex did a pretty decent interview with the man.............just give him a blasted chance and judge him from that!!
Well said! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Beside 2006 qualification have we finished higher than 6th in the Hex?
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You guys need to stop hating on the new coach.
There is nothing we can do about it. Do some independent research on him and see what kind of coach he is. He is pretty decent and he is very qualified. I loved Harty, but in all honesty, based on the team's results over the last 12 months, and the apparent discord within the team, he had to go.
In an ideal world, we would have a coach in Hart and a team of players who are fully behind him, but that ship has sailed and we need to stop with this negativity and hate.
DJW is an arrogant dictator, but WE voted him in after crying down Tim Kee......and we had Tim Kee after crying down Jack Warner.
Flex did a pretty decent interview with the man.............just give him a blasted chance and judge him from that!!
Well said! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Beside 2006 qualification have we finished higher than 6th in the Hex?
There are external forces controlling djw who is indeed in the house and subservient to them that will not want that to happen ...
Hence the removal of Hart... it's too bad people like Andre Samuel and them are blinded and don't see behind djw, he is a major part of the problem because it's easy to buy men like the dictator, they easily sell out ...
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Which external forces controlling DJW?
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Which external forces controlling DJW?
I think you're intelligent enough to figure that one out my friend...
Like I said, the top brass in TT football are easily bought, and TT was playing too good to go unnoticed...
Caribbean football is maintained at a certain level and won't go above that...
Ask yourself a question, why a region with 25 votes in FIFA, don't have at least one and half spots for the World Cup?
We can swing an election in FIFA by block voting... yet the nations in the Caribbean linger on the bottom, South America has 10 votes, yes bigger population but they don't influence a FIFA election..
The installed puppets we have now in TT football and cfu should push for Caribbean spots but they don't.. you ever wonder why, the house tier remains defiant to progressing the region..
With one and a half spots the Caribbean would benefit immensely and it would raise the standard of football in general
Out of this we would get a football league throughout the region with teams from every nation in the cfu
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Contro, the irony of your argument is that Jack Warner had them 35 votes lock stock at one time. And what did he used to do with it. TT football used to get all the qualifying tournaments. Apart from that Jack used to take everything for himself after he paid off all the CFU heads. He got busted with his jockey short down when Ben Haniman came to TT to lobby for the FIFA presidency. After that, no CFU federation going to give a TT official a chance anymore. All those they have put so far have been busted, either by the US justice dept., Concacaf or FIFA. Jack should have used his influenced to at least get one guaranteed spot for the CFU. He had 35 votes to do so. He was there for over 15 years. I doubt Cuba, PR and DR going to walk hand in hand with the rest of the CFU. I see them 3 voting with the Central Americans.
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Contro, the irony of your argument is that Jack Warner had them 35 votes lock stock at one time. And what did he used to do with it. TT football used to get all the qualifying tournaments. Apart from that Jack used to take everything for himself after he paid off all the CFU heads. He got busted with his jockey short down when Ben Haniman came to TT to lobby for the FIFA presidency. After that, no CFU federation going to give a TT official a chance anymore. All those they have put so far have been busted, either by the US justice dept., Concacaf or FIFA. Jack should have used his influenced to at least get one guaranteed spot for the CFU. He had 35 votes to do so. He was there for over 15 years. I doubt Cuba, PR and DR going to walk hand in hand with the rest of the CFU. I see them 3 voting with the Central Americans.
If that's the case then we are down to 22 votes... which is still substantial... and would warrant a spot and a half ... which brings me back to my point, we had sell outs, we need someone to take a stand..
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Apperently he said developing country not third world.
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Apperently he said developing country not third world.
Controversial is just living up to his name. I don't know why some folks here seem to be taking him seriously.
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If your European and met the TTFA brass would you think that this was a First Class First World kinda place ?
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Apperently he said developing country not third world.
Controversial is just living up to his name. I don't know why some folks here seem to be taking him seriously.
Show me the article where he said developing nation to Sancho?
Because two separate articles have third world...
And for the record no one takes your seriously pro..
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Apperently he said developing country not third world.
Controversial is just living up to his name. I don't know why some folks here seem to be taking him seriously.
Show me the article where he said developing nation to Sancho?
Because two separate articles have third world...
And for the record no one takes your seriously pro..
Contro, Go re-read Lasana's article and the comments below where he acknowledged the error and corrected it.
“[Sancho] explained that he was down to only 17 players,” said Shabazz. “And Tom got angry and said [Central] were not sticking to an agreement made with the Pro League about the release of players, long before he came to Trinidad. And [Saintfiet] said even in a developing country like Bangladesh, they are more serious about their national team.”
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Contro, de man make his living in de Third World. Bang, Zim, ..... De outrage unnecessary
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Saintfiet used First World and Third World language before when working in Africa and referring to Nigeria. When in Malawi working as a "volunteer" coach he accused the late great Nigerian Keshi of racism.
Since the article says it was Shabazz statement on what Saintfiet said, its not surprising that due to the uproar Shabazz change his recollection.
Controversial don't stop the pressure this whole thing is a setup, Saintfiet will be fired and the preferred local coaches hired. Saintfeit is but a pothole on the road from Hart to what DJW wants.
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Saintfiet used First World and Third World language before when working in Africa and referring to Nigeria. When in Malawi working as a "volunteer" coach he accused the late great Nigerian Keshi of racism.
Since the article says it was Shabazz statement on what Saintfiet said, its not surprising that due to the uproar Shabazz change his recollection.
Controversial don't stop the pressure this whole thing is a setup, Saintfiet will be fired and the preferred local coaches hired. Saintfeit is but a pothole on the road from Hart to what DJW wants.
Shabazz is a snake so any retraction from him is a lie.. let Kevin or Sancho come on and say it, any other report is a cover up..
I don't buy those retractions from the ttfa, they are liars and will lie again..
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Apperently he said developing country not third world.
Controversial is just living up to his name. I don't know why some folks here seem to be taking him seriously.
Show me the article where he said developing nation to Sancho?
Because two separate articles have third world...
And for the record no one takes your seriously pro..
Contro, Go re-read Lasana's article and the comments below where he acknowledged the error and corrected it.
“[Sancho] explained that he was down to only 17 players,” said Shabazz. “And Tom got angry and said [Central] were not sticking to an agreement made with the Pro League about the release of players, long before he came to Trinidad. And [Saintfiet] said even in a developing country like Bangladesh, they are more serious about their national team.”
pretty soon this make shift coach will realize that he made a very bad error in judgement when he concludes that these people actually don't know the meaning of the word serious. any where in the world is far more serious than trinidad and tobago, we make those corrupt African countries look like singapore in comparison. from politics to sports we drag our feet and fall asleep at the wheel.
imagine bangladesh of all places a poor underdeveloped cricket loving country and a relatively new corner to the sport of football is more serious about football than us who's first sport is football has been playing the sport for over a 100 years, what an utter slap in the jaw.
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Can someone please explain how ah man with the resume of failure upon failure of Jamal Shabazz get such a key position as TD? I still find this ming boggling yuh know.
Or maybe onece yuh in T&T football for a number of years dais the new criteria for key positions at the senior level
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Can someone please explain how ah man with the resume of failure upon failure of Jamal Shabazz get such a key position as TD? I still find this ming boggling yuh know.
Or maybe onece yuh in T&T football for a number of years dais the new criteria for key positions at the senior level
You're acting like the term nepotism is something foreign to you locally...
Answer the question about how much funds was allocated to the ttfa from the ministry of sport?
That's the unknown that needs to be answered, not the obvious appointments everyone knew was coming when the dictator was elected..
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Contro, the irony of your argument is that Jack Warner had them 35 votes lock stock at one time. And what did he used to do with it. TT football used to get all the qualifying tournaments. Apart from that Jack used to take everything for himself after he paid off all the CFU heads. He got busted with his jockey short down when Ben Haniman came to TT to lobby for the FIFA presidency. After that, no CFU federation going to give a TT official a chance anymore. All those they have put so far have been busted, either by the US justice dept., Concacaf or FIFA. Jack should have used his influenced to at least get one guaranteed spot for the CFU. He had 35 votes to do so. He was there for over 15 years. I doubt Cuba, PR and DR going to walk hand in hand with the rest of the CFU. I see them 3 voting with the Central Americans.
If that's the case then we are down to 22 votes... which is still substantial... and would warrant a spot and a half ... which brings me back to my point, we had sell outs, we need someone to take a stand..
which brings me back to my point, we had sell outs, we need someone to take a stand..
Be specific. Who sell out. And to whom. After Jack, all the CFU minions started fighting for control. The result being the Canadian heading Concacaf.
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Contro, the irony of your argument is that Jack Warner had them 35 votes lock stock at one time. And what did he used to do with it. TT football used to get all the qualifying tournaments. Apart from that Jack used to take everything for himself after he paid off all the CFU heads. He got busted with his jockey short down when Ben Haniman came to TT to lobby for the FIFA presidency. After that, no CFU federation going to give a TT official a chance anymore. All those they have put so far have been busted, either by the US justice dept., Concacaf or FIFA. Jack should have used his influenced to at least get one guaranteed spot for the CFU. He had 35 votes to do so. He was there for over 15 years. I doubt Cuba, PR and DR going to walk hand in hand with the rest of the CFU. I see them 3 voting with the Central Americans.
If that's the case then we are down to 22 votes... which is still substantial... and would warrant a spot and a half ... which brings me back to my point, we had sell outs, we need someone to take a stand..
which brings me back to my point, we had sell outs, we need someone to take a stand..
Be specific. Who sell out. And to whom. After Jack, all the CFU minions started fighting for control. The result being the Canadian heading Concacaf.
David john and the cabal are sell outs ... you need not look further my friend
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Who is the cabal? Shabazz? Dexter? The selection committee? You are saying that they don't care if the MNT do not qualify for Moscow? Do you know how much money you make when you qualify? Why would they not want to qualify?
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Who is the cabal? Shabazz? Dexter? The selection committee? You are saying that they don't care if the MNT do not qualify for Moscow? Do you know how much money you make when you qualify? Why would they not want to qualify?
Keep on listing my brother...
You see the cabal can't control Hart, they need a coach that they can control, corruption can only be conducted with like minds, an outsider will be viewed as volatile and unpredictable... but there is another angle to this, losing will also benefit the few, Hart wasn't here to lose, he was here to win... he was here to choose players of his choosing, the dictator doesn't like that, the cabal cannot lose control, if they do, their plan cannot be orchestrated accordingly ...
The outside interferences also want a controllable qualifying campaign, qualification for the World Cup, is directly related to political power, a show of power and symbolizes strength... sport is not just a means of making money through match fixing but also a show of power and validation.. TT holds no political power in the world, they also are not mandated to qualify, despite our talent we have the house tier that assure their superiors that things would be under control, no surprises..
The complexity of the scheme is not just one sided... the Caribbean is heavily controlled as with the wicb and our cricket.. there is no free reign, the dictator was elected to maintain this norm.. if his superiors decide we will qualify, it will be on their terms and controlled ...
"The most beautiful game"
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Apperently he said developing country not third world.
Controversial is just living up to his name. I don't know why some folks here seem to be taking him seriously.
Show me the article where he said developing nation to Sancho?
Because two separate articles have third world...
And for the record no one takes your seriously pro..
Contro, Go re-read Lasana's article and the comments below where he acknowledged the error and corrected it.
“[Sancho] explained that he was down to only 17 players,” said Shabazz. “And Tom got angry and said [Central] were not sticking to an agreement made with the Pro League about the release of players, long before he came to Trinidad. And [Saintfiet] said even in a developing country like Bangladesh, they are more serious about their national team.”
pretty soon this make shift coach will realize that he made a very bad error in judgement when he concludes that these people actually don't know the meaning of the word serious. any where in the world is far more serious than trinidad and tobago, we make those corrupt African countries look like singapore in comparison. from politics to sports we drag our feet and fall asleep at the wheel.
imagine bangladesh of all places a poor underdeveloped cricket loving country and a relatively new corner to the sport of football is more serious about football than us who's first sport is football has been playing the sport for over a 100 years, what an utter slap in the jaw.
Andre "the dictators mouthpiece" Samuel has spoken, its interesting how people reveal themselves and don't even realize it...
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Could someone show me the big picture of what's happening? It's so confusing and I'm really interested about it. On his first week of job, the new coach is basically saying T&T don't take football seriously, and the president is saying he'll be fired if he doesn't win the next 2 matches? So why they signed him? :o :thinking:
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Could someone show me the big picture of what's happening? It's so confusing and I'm really interested about it. On his first week of job, the new coach is basically saying T&T don't take football seriously, and the president is saying he'll be fired if he doesn't win the next 2 matches? So why they signed him? :o :thinking:
Not to sound too much like Contro, but it is pretty clear to the fan that pays even a little bit of attention that the LatApty litigation was suspended bc Djw promise him the head coach job. Shabaxx had a long relationship with him so who knows what the tit for tat was. St feet was probably the best coaching option willing to sign on the 2 game clause... But he is really a caretaker for his assistants to take over without a national uproar.
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My objections and worries are already on record, but asking to fire him so soon is strong. The Central saga is not a great start, but surely we all want T&T in Russia? Not sure how this thread helps apart from a "I told you so" down the line.
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Wait so the man insult we on the sly and all some ah allyuh studying is whether contro quote the man correctly? When he say even in a developing nation like Bangladesh...allyuh realize he insinuating that we lower than a developing nation right? SMH
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Could someone show me the big picture of what's happening? It's so confusing and I'm really interested about it. On his first week of job, the new coach is basically saying T&T don't take football seriously, and the president is saying he'll be fired if he doesn't win the next 2 matches? So why they signed him? :o :thinking:
You have some catching up to do and it'll leave your poor head spinning...just for starters, in introducing the new coach at a news conference, the boss said that he had two games to win/get a result and if he didn't he would be fired. He went further and said, words to effect, "he's sitting there smiling but I am serious, he has to win those two games or he will be gone." While new coach/little boy sits there and takes it.
They signed him because he was cheapest, the others in the running were too expensive. Yep and the drama continues:)
Drop KJ the captain because he too slow.
Bring back Carlos Edwards to shore up the defense.
Brought in Cornell Glenn from India, who will meet the team in Nicaragua...yep Saintfiet has never seen him play in person, probably pick him on the evidence videos and the -- ahem-- advice/suggestions/orders of others:)
Get your popcorn;)
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Get a good night's rest, Tom.
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Tom Saintfiet T&T record
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/68741000/jpg/_68741916_saintfiet.jpg)
Games Played - 4
Won 1
Draw 0
Loose 3
Goals For 8
Goals Against 9
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sound like bob bradley available
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sound like bob bradley available
Honestly I'd rather Bradley than this joker and clean house in the TTFA as well.
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Saintfiet may be bringing our rankings in line with de teams he normally coach.
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Failures under Shabazz stewardship is no surprise. His whole career has been a failure.
Ah keep telling allyuh the old heads in T&T do not know shit about todays International game and they refuse to humble themselves and stop thinking they could wave a magic wand and become the best TD's and coaches in the world. Stephen Hart is the best Trini born coach because of how he developed outside of T&T!
Shabazz, DJW and others in the local T&T circle always saw Hart as an outsider. Now the national team and the country has to suffer for their envious ways.
As for the ne coach Saintflop, he just here to collect he money and then ride out when time comes
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3 December 2015 Trinidad and Tobago ranked 49 in the world
http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/rank=257/concacaf.html
7 January 2016 Trinidad and Tobago ranked 50 in the world
http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/rank=258/concacaf.html
22 December 2016 Trinidad and Tobago ranked 78 in the world
http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/concacaf.html
One full year of DJW and two months of Tom the ASS and we will be close to 100.
Rankings of Tom the ASS teams:
TOGO 91
NAMIBIA 99
ZIMBABWE 102
MALAWI 103
ETHIOPIA 112
YEMEN 148
BANGLADESH 185
Where do you predict we will be ranked by end of February?
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3 December 2015 Trinidad and Tobago ranked 49 in the world
http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/rank=257/concacaf.html
7 January 2016 Trinidad and Tobago ranked 50 in the world
http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/rank=258/concacaf.html
22 December 2016 Trinidad and Tobago ranked 78 in the world
http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/concacaf.html
One full year of DJW and two months of Tom the ASS and we will be close to 100.
Rankings of Tom the ASS teams:
TOGO 91
NAMIBIA 99
ZIMBABWE 102
MALAWI 103
ETHIOPIA 112
YEMEN 148
BANGLADESH 185
Where do you predict we will be ranked by end of February?
We on pace.
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Saintfiet may be bringing our rankings in line with de teams he normally coach.
this is not saintfiet's fault. we could not even win vs grenada with hart and this local bunch, now you all is asking a coach who barely knows these players to be successful after two practice game? please.
some of the people to blame are the federation heads, the pro league, the carenage crew who sabotage the gold cup with their indiscipline both with hart and saintfiet....... yes kevin molino and jovin jones........and to some extent cordel cato that bum.
and if you guys think that the omission of kenwin was saintfiet's idea then you are more delusional than i give you credit for. that sacking came from all the way up top. i'm so glad to see them fall on their own sword. serves them right. that is what you get for tampering with a good thing.
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Tom, what would happen if Moldova beat Belgium?
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Who driving Tom to de airport?!?!
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Who driving Tom to de airport?!?!
Haiti ?
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Who driving Tom to de airport?!?!
Haiti ?
might be latas.....
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Who driving Tom to de airport?!?!
Ah not a fan of Tom but he was promised two WCQ..
Aaah Gawd let de man experience Carnival nah
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Who driving Tom to de airport?!?!
Haiti ?
Maybe they can take DJW and the monkey show with too
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Who driving Tom to de airport?!?!
Let him hop a green band maxi from right by the Ato Boldon Stadium.......
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Please someone tell me if this one is not the best GK available by a huge margin https://youtu.be/8r0vl1KnDOA
So my next question is, who in the world is the scout for the national team???
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I hope the TTFA keep Tom Saintfiet as T&T coach, he did very good with a T&T C team in such a short space.
The team is playing with much more fight.
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I hope the TTFA keep Tom Saintfiet as T&T coach, he did very good with a T&T C team in such a short space.
The team is playing with much more fight.
allyuh bias real bad boy.. I guess it's ok, if that's how you truly feel. the problem must be with me.
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I hope the TTFA keep Tom Saintfiet as T&T coach, he did very good with a T&T C team in such a short space.
The team is playing with much more fight.
.. sorry dey had to fire ah coach so dey could pick dey C team though
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I hope the TTFA keep Tom Saintfiet as T&T coach, he did very good with a T&T C team in such a short space.
The team is playing with much more fight.
agreed ..... sorry dey had to fire ah coach so dey could pick dey C team though
why is this the C team doh ? where is the A team ?
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I hope the TTFA keep Tom Saintfiet as T&T coach, he did very good with a T&T C team in such a short space.
The team is playing with much more fight.
Ok, lehwe de algebra.
Haiti B v T&T C + [new Haitian coach - less new T&T coach] + playing at home + [4 day match interval TT - 2 day match interval Haiti] - "Azaad's injury" + miscellaneous nonsense not known - actual injuries + xy/more f**kery= DOES NOT COMPUTE.
Since when is playing with fight the highest common factor?
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I hope the TTFA keep Tom Saintfiet as T&T coach, he did very good with a T&T C team in such a short space.
The team is playing with much more fight.
Your opinion but the man has a record of 1 Win and 3 Losses, if this our standard of "very good" then we in trouble
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Errol, yuh last name is Saint"fete"?
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I hope the TTFA keep Tom Saintfiet as T&T coach, he did very good with a T&T C team in such a short space.
The team is playing with much more fight.
Your opinion but the man has a record of 1 Win and 3 Losses, if this our standard of "very good" then we in trouble
man no wonder when things were, are and will be very good, some ppl don't recognize it or perceive it to be. At this point and the amount of years I on here, I'm now starting to recognize who very good at analysis and who talk for talk sake.. the one thing I do recognze doh is good football and proper effort. Yes, we had effort, no choice, everytime someone has to play way above their level, they have to real work..but that was not good football, and even poorer team organization and totally un-recognizable strategy, I'm sure things were worked on, but maybe I just didn't understand, and if was not for quite a bit of luck and an exceptional game by a fringe forward, who rose to the occasion, could have been more embarrassing than it already was.
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Errol, yuh last name is Saint"fete"?
nah he alluded to knowin DJW once so yuh know we trinis and fren ting...... we goh bun an go dong with d ship for we fren!! normel normel
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I hope the TTFA keep Tom Saintfiet as T&T coach, he did very good with a T&T C team in such a short space.
The team is playing with much more fight.
.. sorry dey had to fire ah coach so dey could pick dey C team though
Who fields a C team when the stakes are this high?
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I NEVER SEEN IT THIS BAD...NEVER.
Been following TnT Football since the mid 70's... hardly ever missed a match... SAD.
DOC...nice to meet you...together we aspire...together we take we licks.....cheers
also...was strange just bouncing up like 5 national team regulars in the stand..while the action taking place.. J Jones.. Nash Molino.. Mikel...Carlyle...say what...MARCH...
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I NEVER SEEN IT THIS BAD...NEVER.
Been following TnT Football since the mid 70's... hardly ever missed a match... SAD.
DOC...nice to meet you...together we aspire...together we take we licks.....cheers
also...was strange just bouncing up like 5 national team regulars in the stand..while the action taking place.. J Jones.. Nash Molino.. Mikel...Carlyle...say what...MARCH...
Big Mag, is some kind of thing going on behind the scenes. These guys probably don't want to be in the current set up with Saint"fete" and Donald J Williams.
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I hope the TTFA keep Tom Saintfiet as T&T coach, he did very good with a T&T C team in such a short space.
The team is playing with much more fight.
Ok, lehwe de algebra.
Haiti B v T&T C + [new Haitian coach - less new T&T coach] + playing at home + [4 day match interval TT - 2 day match interval Haiti] - "Azaad's injury" + miscellaneous nonsense not known - actual injuries + xy/more f**kery= DOES NOT COMPUTE.
Since when is playing with fight the highest common factor?
Aubrey, Abu & boucaud could easily make a T&T B (if not A). I wonder which 11 on Errol B squad?
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I hope the TTFA keep Tom Saintfiet as T&T coach, he did very good with a T&T C team in such a short space.
The team is playing with much more fight.
Ok, lehwe de algebra.
Haiti B v T&T C + [new Haitian coach - less new T&T coach] + playing at home + [4 day match interval TT - 2 day match interval Haiti] - "Azaad's injury" + miscellaneous nonsense not known - actual injuries + xy/more f**kery= DOES NOT COMPUTE.
Since when is playing with fight the highest common factor?
Aubrey, Abu & boucaud could easily make a T&T B (if not A). I wonder which 11 on Errol B squad?
He's talking about the team with him striking, DJW in goal and Saint"fete" playing stopper.
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ah feel Tom gone with them 2 results...
cant see him getting any team ready for March...plus he all ready burn some bridges with some key players... be it right or wrong....
cant see the FA going on with him...
so...my BIG guess ???... Latapy in March...
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ah feel Tom gone with them 2 results...
cant see him getting any team ready for March...plus he all ready burn some bridges with some key players... be it right or wrong....
cant see the FA going on with him...
so...my BIG guess ???... Latapy in March...
Wouldn't be surprised either but others say he would prefer be fired so he could be paid but I guess we shall see if he will hang around till March.
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So allyuh aint figure out Saintflop just here to collect he money and ride out? you think he care if he get fired? Look at his coaching resume, you will see in recent years he does not stay with teams for long periods. He is used to getting fired or quitting after short stints of failures.
Blame the TTFF who hired him, he doh care
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I NEVER SEEN IT THIS BAD...NEVER.
Been following TnT Football since the mid 70's... hardly ever missed a match... SAD.
DOC...nice to meet you...together we aspire...together we take we licks.....cheers
also...was strange just bouncing up like 5 national team regulars in the stand..while the action taking place.. J Jones.. Nash Molino.. Mikel...Carlyle...say what...MARCH...
De President wasn't cussing way de coach in the stands too ;D
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Get your popcorn. Because all kind ah ting happening this week. I think this is the week people start really questioning the motives of DJW. Well I hope
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I hope the TTFA keep Tom Saintfiet as T&T coach, he did very good with a T&T C team in such a short space.
The team is playing with much more fight.
errol that wasn't a C team as we would like to think especially when they had four starters abu bakar, aubrey david, andre boucoud, kavan george, and we could honestly say that shaddon and carlos was on hart's team in the past so was glenn, ceasar and nathan lewis. we conceded four bloody goals to a haitian local team playing with heart and grit, how is that an improvement?
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I NEVER SEEN IT THIS BAD...NEVER.
Been following TnT Football since the mid 70's... hardly ever missed a match... SAD.
DOC...nice to meet you...together we aspire...together we take we licks.....cheers
also...was strange just bouncing up like 5 national team regulars in the stand..while the action taking place.. J Jones.. Nash Molino.. Mikel...Carlyle...say what...MARCH...
Big Magician, the pleasure was mine indeed. Cheers!
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Might as well start it now. :)
Doh worry Coach, you're no one unless your name has blessed a Fire thread. Although, in the interest of full disclosure, you've just set the record for when the
the thread gets started ... the same day you were announced.
I'm just following the lead of our president who told you he would fire you in March if we don't secure 6 points. However, to be consistent, he should really fire you in January if we don't win versus THOSE opponents.
Know what I mean? That way we keep our World Cup dream alive, without experimenting in March in the actual HEX and I get to start another Fire thread named after your successor.
You have four (4) matches. Essentially more action than you've seen in some places. Let's consider it as two matches. Good luck!
As they say in Bangladesh ... Oh, never mind: you were not there long enough to know what they say in Bangladesh.
Tom, I would like to see you in my office.
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Some people here just doh understand football no matter how much they think they know. Hart had very little support from D!ckheadJW and his administration, yet somehow he is to held fully accountable for the slippage of the team since the regime changed. Then we have people singing Saintshyte praises despite an abysmal showing so far. Remember the last time we lost to Nicaragua before shyte coach extrodinaire came on board? Remember the last time we lost to Suriname before Saintshyte? All everyone of Hart's detractors seem to want to recall is the performances of the last year. Some have even gone so far as to try to use a win from a position of adversity in SVG (via shrewd substitutions and allowing his players to freedom to express themselves) against him. Like we never see world class club teams fall behind in a match against lower competition (allyuh watch Arsenal this weekend by chance). Now the excuse brigade on full combat readiness protocol with ass talk bout C team blah blah blah. T&T football needs a long term philosophical football approach and to be committed to a coach for the long haul. All the overreactions and revolving door does is continuously set us back time and time again. If people in football in T&T had vision and patience we would have stuck with Hart and give him the tools to grow football over the vext 5 years instead of firing him for a journeyman shithong mercenary that will leave us worse off than before. Buh say wha, daiz wha allyuh assholes wanted so take dat in allyuh pwefum!!!!
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I would like a formal statement from the TTFA president after these games.
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Some people here just doh understand football no matter how much they think they know. Hart had very little support from D!ckheadJW and his administration, yet somehow he is to held fully accountable for the slippage of the team since the regime changed. Then we have people singing Saintshyte praises despite an abysmal showing so far. Remember the last time we lost to Nicaragua before shyte coach extrodinaire came on board? Remember the last time we lost to Suriname before Saintshyte? All everyone of Hart's detractors seem to want to recall is the performances of the last year. Some have even gone so far as to try to use a win from a position of adversity in SVG (via shrewd substitutions and allowing his players to freedom to express themselves) against him. Like we never see world class club teams fall behind in a match against lower competition (allyuh watch Arsenal this weekend by chance). Now the excuse brigade on full combat readiness protocol with ass talk bout C team blah blah blah. T&T football needs a long term philosophical football approach and to be committed to a coach for the long haul. All the overreactions and revolving door does is continuously set us back time and time again. If people in football in T&T had vision and patience we would have stuck with Hart and give him the tools to grow football over the vext 5 years instead of firing him for a journeyman shithong mercenary that will leave us worse off than before. Buh say wha, daiz wha allyuh assholes wanted so take dat in allyuh pwefum!!!!
Easy nuh .... dont hasten old age pardner . You eh hear Rudder say it so long ago ? ...its is strange the more we change ...rearrange ..everything remains the same ... de greatest tool in the hand of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed .. throw dem ah bone and they will follow it .....DJW rode in like Dandie Doodle ...stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni ...and the majority accepted it as so.
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Jaijohn, I don't think the majority has accepted DJW moves so far. When you talk about majority, are you talking about the whole country? Or those who gravitate to football. Those who gravitate to football, like you, me and the rest of the forum would not shed a tear if DJW was to leave now. As a matter of fact, we want him gone. Go and deal with Connection. There is one half of TT not really interested or passionate about the game to worry about our recent demise. Then there is the other ther half who's passionate about the game, vote with their pocket book. They pick and choose when they going to see football. Not a recipe for successful football. They rather community football than "organized TTFA football".
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The dictator is the problem...
SANTHIEF is a puppet... you can fire him and the Dictator will bring another stooge..
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Tom is no longer. End of the Saintfiet "era".
https://mobile.twitter.com/OfmSport/status/819200841513127936/photo/1
http://mobile.lesoir.be/1413437/article/sports/football/football-international/2017-01-11/tom-saintfiet-demissionne-deja-son-poste-selectionneur-trinite
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Tom is no longer. End of the Saintfiet "era".
https://mobile.twitter.com/OfmSport/status/819200841513127936/photo/1
http://mobile.lesoir.be/1413437/article/sports/football/football-international/2017-01-11/tom-saintfiet-demissionne-deja-son-poste-selectionneur-trinite
Well look at that.
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Coach Saintfiet:
"I never got to work with the players nor staff requested."
https://mobile.twitter.com/BFCprof/status/819198499598303232/photo/1
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Re: "I never got to work with the players or staff requested."
Man was too eager to accept the 10 days than give it serious thought.
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Which players he requested that he didn't ban? Yorke, Nakhid?
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Here comes Shabazz?
Latapy or Fevrier.
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Coach Saintfiet:
"I never got to work with the players nor staff requested."
https://mobile.twitter.com/BFCprof/status/819198499598303232/photo/1
Then again was it not Saintfiet himself who made that disastrous decision to leave out KJ? There is plenty of blame to pass around. John-Williams tenure will be remembered as amateurish, stupid and childish at best. Makes Austin Jack look almost saintly in comparision. Hopefully he has the class to fall on his sword ASAP, and take his minions with him. But I doubt it.
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Well this is a straight fiasco, Is the former coach suggesting that he was instructed to drop players?
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I love how the man reflect on his unveiling and figure he shoulda quit when DJW crap on him at the press conference. If that wasn't a red flag...
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The dictator is the problem...
SANTHIEF is a puppet... you can fire him and the Dictator will bring another stooge..
Contro you could go overboard when yuh ready eh....but you have been dead on correct about DJW. We should fully expect appointment of Shabazz, Latapy or some next shyte coach. And a continuation of this downward spiral to new lows. Its going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
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Ah would laugh if it wasn't so stupid!!
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Here comes Shabazz?
Latapy or Fevrier.
Doh forget Vranes.
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Well boy
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DJW and the others should resign over this fiasco. Everyone knew it was a FOOLISH decision from day 1.
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DJW and the others should resign over this fiasco. Everyone knew it was a FOOLISH decision from day 1.
Plot to install latas through d back door, some saying, if dat is true....well boy
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So here come Latas with he clueless self, who will be instructed not to pick KJ just as Saintfiet was...it just never ends for us.
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asylumseeker asylumseerman is de winner of de 2016/17 Miss Cleo award. :rotfl:
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asylumseeker asylumseerman is de winner of de 2016/17 Miss Cleo award. :rotfl:
:)
Iz ah Wednesday, US-based hold tight for de winning Powerball numbers.
@Palos: my stories handled. How yours going?
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Guys, it is tru that the coach resigned?
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Lol
We pay for the man winter vacation to the Caribbean. (or did he pay us?)
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20170111/sports/saintfiet-quits-at-tts-head-coach
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TTFA accepts Saintfiet’s resignation as Head Coach
TTFA Media
The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association wishes to advise that Tom Saintfiet issued a letter of resignation as head coach of the National Men’s Senior Team to TTFA President David John-Williams on Tuesday night. The TTFA President then referred this letter to the Technical Committee of the TTFA and the Committee recommended that Saintfiet’s resignation be accepted and be ratified by the TTFA board.
The Technical Committee has advised that a replacement for the post of Men’s Senior Team Head Coach will be found in the shortest possible time and the TTFA will make an announcement on this in due course.
The TTFA wishes to thank Mr Saintfiet for his efforts over the period he served as Head Coach of our National Men’s Senior Team and takes this opportunity to wish him well in his future endeavours.
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Saintfeit quittttttttttttt
God is a trini allll yuhhhhh
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Amazing yes. This is high levels of commess even by TT football standards
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Enter latapy, d Lucian and d terrorist
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Boat Cruise Jammers will be happy with Latas as a coach. He will join them on the boat lime and then they will run for 60 minutes and the Coach will say lack of Fitness was responsible for the late goals.
Latas will bring his friend Dwight to help him out with , the necessary addition of liming after each session. In all fairness to Saintfiet , he never stood a chance with this C team that others picked for him.
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Did he really quit?? Meaning was it 100% his decision not to continue or was he given the usually ultimatum to either resign or get fired?
Cuz we all know he would be elated to leave with his "I've never been fired from any coaching job" reputation still intact to con sell himself to future employers lol
Things to make yuh cry yuh just hatta laugh yes
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Boat Cruise Jammers will be happy with Latas as a coach. He will join them on the boat lime and then they will run for 60 minutes and the Coach will say lack of Fitness was responsible for the late goals.
Latas will bring his friend Dwight to help him out with , the necessary addition of liming after each session. In all fairness to Saintfiet , he never stood a chance with this C team that others picked for him.
Ent..........indiscipline loves indiscipline
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Nah, Breds .... no crying at all. The next move is that DJW give in his own resignation also. We football running like a pappyshow or bobolee. Take your pick. We don't see him resigning. But if he decides to buy local, I would take Latas over the rest. At least Latas would have them a lil more composed and be able to string a couple passes together. I don't think Fenwick will allow DJW to manhandle him like he did Sanfiet. Vranes, would probably take the job. But would DJW give him the resources, and at the same time keep his distance while he, Vranes, do his thing. Time is of the essence, in our diabolical situation. The other option is to go foreign again.
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At least Latas would have them a lil more composed and be able to string a couple passes together.
Based on what? How Latas used to play when he was a player?
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As great as Latas was as a player he cyah coach he way out of a paperbag
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asylumseeker asylumseerman is de winner of de 2016/17 Miss Cleo award. :rotfl:
:)
Iz ah Wednesday, US-based hold tight for de winning Powerball numbers.
PM it to me first!
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“From the first day of my unveiling, I did not get the support of the TTFA and its President,” stated Saintfiet, “support which is needed to be able to do my job in a professional and successful way. I never got the chance to work with the players nor staff requested.
“Perhaps I should have taken this decision right from day one of my appointment, after the President openly second guessed his own choice of employing me. But I gave him at the TTFA the benefit of the doubt.”
Don't put of to tomorrow what you can do today
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Don't put of to tomorrow what you can do today
maxg you is an ass yes. LOL. :rotfl:
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At least Latas would have them a lil more composed and be able to string a couple passes together.
Based on what? How Latas used to play when he was a player?
When Latas coached the team with Jay-Lloyd Samuel, they did start off slow to his detriment. But towards the end the team started to gel. They played CR in Tobago. I think they lost a close one. The best game was the 1-0 lost to the US. Ricardo Clark scoring with a shot in the TT area. But his run was under that head case AJW. So you all know that his stint would be tenuous. Unfortunately, we don't have any player on our team with Latas skill and composure. Our mid field is poor. The best I have seen our mid field play was under Hart in the two GC he coached. But something always happening to one of them. Injury, getting shot or some sort of indifference. But the players need to do the extra work on their own. Getting fit or weight training. The national coach don't have the time to implement that aspect of coaching. The coach would be damn lucky to get 5 days, far less 2!weeks to do all those things.
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Not surprised..
The terrorizer hinted at his dismissal or I guess resignation...
The roller coaster ride continues and more money is wasted that could have gone to Hart and supporting him but qualifying is not the Dictator goal..never was
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Saintfiet's tenure as head coach of T&T
https://www.youtube.com/v/vgqRis_czYg
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Saintfiet's tenure as head coach of T&T
https://www.youtube.com/v/vgqRis_czYg
:D
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Boat Cruise Jammers will be happy with Latas as a coach. He will join them on the boat lime and then they will run for 60 minutes and the Coach will say lack of Fitness was responsible for the late goals.
Latas will bring his friend Dwight to help him out with , the necessary addition of liming after each session. In all fairness to Saintfiet , he never stood a chance with this C team that others picked for him.
I feel sorry for Saintfield. There were periods when the team didn't look too bad.
But is only so much any Coach could do with the coming and going of so many players.
It good for the TTFA.
VB
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Boat Cruise Jammers will be happy with Latas as a coach. He will join them on the boat lime and then they will run for 60 minutes and the Coach will say lack of Fitness was responsible for the late goals.
Latas will bring his friend Dwight to help him out with , the necessary addition of liming after each session. In all fairness to Saintfiet , he never stood a chance with this C team that others picked for him.
I feel sorry for Saintfield. There were periods when the team didn't look too bad.
But is only so much any Coach could do with the coming and going of so many players.
It good for the TTFA.
VB
He was a patsy for the TTFA (DJW) and did not realise. From that perspective I feel sorry for him. His tenure was ultimately doomed, he marginalised some of our best players, our core of the last 3 years. Even if he was getting a mandate from above, he was burning bridges that surely he knew he would have needed if we were to collect any points in the next 8 games.
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His tenure was doomed even before it began, no clue the appetite of the macauel would make him part of the menu.....not well thought out..He cut off his own testicles when allowed the saboteurs to pick the team,he just did not stand up,and as it's said if you cannot stand for some thing you will fall for anything...That was a short honeymoon and marriage...Just four games...Talk about a quickie
Bottom line when you lay down with dogs you wake up with rats and fat one's at that...lol
Who is next to sip of the poisoned chalice.....Anyone even offering their services free of charge under this current administration need a psychiatric evaluation...😎😎😎😎
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Simply put, I can respect a man who quits instead of waiting to be fired, also recognizing an untenable situation.
Where do we go from here? Although many have given up on the dream of Russia 2018, I will still hold out hope that the 2015 Gold Cup Team shows up in the next 8 games.
A man can dream.
Blessings
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WATCH: Saintfiet explains why he resigned
https://www.youtube.com/v/Ci_KFQHhj7Q
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Simply put, I can respect a man who quits instead of waiting to be fired, also recognizing an untenable situation.
Where do we go from here? Although many have given up on the dream of Russia 2018, I will still hold out hope that the 2015 Gold Cup Team shows up in the next 8 games.
A man can dream.
Blessings
that 2015 gold cup run was a fluke. in reality they have done nothing that spectacular. they beat guatemala and cuba and got lucky in the last play of the mexico game, what people are not considering is that we conceded in each one of those games and failed to keep a clean sheet.
when last have we beaten a formidable opponent and manage by a one or two goal margin to keep a clean sheet? we don't grind out wins like jamaica or panama (1-0 2-0), when we won games during hart's tenure 95% of the time the results looked like this (3-1, 4-4, 2-1, 3-2), not to knock hart he was a very good attacking coach, but he needed a defensive coach in his camp because in the 4 years hart was in charge we never looked solid defensively.
quite a few members clamor for the support of coach hart but i hate to say that coach hart was failing in his defensive duties and it showed in the stats. in 90% of his games he has conceded and in the last year only managed two clean sheets.
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WATCH: Saintfiet explains why he resigned
https://www.youtube.com/v/Ci_KFQHhj7Q
and people was saying that the man was a puppet and had no pride. if he was a puppet and lack pride he would still be there being disrespected by that contemptuous staff of nincompoops. good for you coach saintfiet, tell those jerks to shove it is right.
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Having completed his tour of the Republic, the wanderlust Coach has apparently decided that its bananas do not quite agree with his constitution.
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It was a good holiday for him. He get to see some Trini women and bus a lime or two. Saint"fete" would have preferred the holiday during carnival. But the next best thing beside carnival time is Christmas time. So if anyone who benefit from this is Saint"fete"..
Must say I have a lot of respect for him now that he quit. I wish him luck. DJW could not take his dignity away. Best of luck Saint"fete".
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We need specifics about the perceived lack of respect. We need specifics about the off the field issues.
Where is the pointed journalism. We need guided missiles not puff pastry questions
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We need specifics about the perceived lack of respect. We need specifics about the off the field issues.
Where is the pointed journalism. We need guided missiles not puff pastry questions
It will come out when Saintfiet is back in Belgium and safe and sound. You think he taking a chance and say the wrong thing in Trini?
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pull stones,you always put very sensible posts,you don't let your heart over rule your judgement of our team.You have stated facts and people should read it and accept it.I would like to even add a bit more,Hart was kept on for too long,he should have gone after Haiti stopped us with that 1-0 defeat,not getting into the Copa was a massive blow,we then lost to Martinique,that is why we have failed to get in to the Caribbean Cup,not what Santfiet did,Hart did very little and should have gone then.One other point,you said the Mexico result was a fluke,I agree that there was something flukish about that result.
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Trinidad & Tobago Mess Is No Laughing Matter
By Paul Kennedy, Soccer America.
Shaka Hislop tweeted that he didn't know whether to laugh or cry about the state of Trinidad & Tobago, then added, "I've had hangovers that lasted longer than Saintfiet." That would have been a pretty long hangover, but Hislop, the former T&T goalkeeper who now works as an ESPN analyst, makes his point about Belgian Tom Saintfiet, who lasted all of five weeks as T&T head coach.
Saintfiet was named as T&T coach in December to replace Stephen Hart after the Soca Warriors -- like the USA -- opened the Hexagonal with two straight losses. But he resigned on Tuesday, two days after a 4-3 overtime loss to Haiti knocked them out of contention for the 2017 Gold Cup.
In an email sent Wednesday morning, Saintfiet issued the following statement:
"I would like to inform you all that I have decided to resign, today Tuesday 10 January 2017 as National Team Coach of Trinidad & Tobago.
"Given the mandate to guide the team past Panama and Mexico in the coming World Cup qualifiers of March 2017, I have come to the conclusion that I can’t be successful in this environment.
"From the first day of my unveiling, I did not get the support of the TTFA and its President; support which is needed to be able to do my job in a professional and successful way.
"I never got the chance to work with the players nor staff requested.
"Perhaps I should have taken this decision right from day one of my appointment after the President openly second guessed his own choice of employing me but I gave him and the TTFA the benefit of the doubt.
"It was an honour and privilege to work for a beautiful nation like Trinidad & Tobago and I wish the players, staff, TTFA, fans and the whole football family the very best."
The move was no surprise: T&T lost three of four games in the last two weeks, and Saintfiet battled with many of his star players, not to mention local club officials.
T&T's problems did not just extend to the Hexagonal. The Soca Warriors failed to win their Gold Cup qualifying group, requiring them to play in a playoff in January when some foreign-based players were unavailable or MLS players were coming off offseason vacations.
Saintfiet was the default choice for the job as the Trinidad & Tobago Football Association reportedly couldn't afford Frenchman Philippe Troussier's salary terms, and the TTFA technical committee that was working on the coaching hire -- via Google -- questioned whether the other candidates, Colombians Luis Suarez and Eduardo Lara, spoke English.
TTFA president David John-Williams wasn't exactly enthusiastic about the pick, stating at the press conference to announce the hiring that Saintfiet would be fired if "he doesn’t get the job done" at the March Hexagonal qualifiers against Panama and Mexico.
"He is laughing," said Williams, "but we’re very serious."
Assistants Russell Latapy and Jamaal Shabazz are candidates to replace Saintfiet
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pull stones,you always put very sensible posts,you don't let your heart over rule your judgement of our team.You have stated facts and people should read it and accept it.I would like to even add a bit more,Hart was kept on for too long,he should have gone after Haiti stopped us with that 1-0 defeat,not getting into the Copa was a massive blow,we then lost to Martinique,that is why we have failed to get in to the Caribbean Cup,not what Santfiet did,Hart did very little and should have gone then.One other point,you said the Mexico result was a fluke,I agree that there was something flukish about that result.
In the past 3.5 years we play Mexico 3 times. Results were :
Mexico 1 - 0 TT (Gold cup 2013)
Mexico 4 - 4 TT (Gold cup 2015)
Mexico 3 - 3 TT ( Friendly 2015)
It's inaccurate to call those results flukes as the last 3 outings have been very close. I am with Contro, there is a correlation to DJW coming into the picture and the poor form. He is to blame. Not Hart.
Just to put it into context, Saintfiet was coach for just over 30 days. He already talking about the lack of support from the TTFA and DJW. So what do you think Hart experience? Lack of support, sabotage..
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It's has been pretty impressive of John David Williams to transform Trinidad and Tobago F F ,into an entity just as terrible as the West Indies Cricket Board :applause: Not even Jackular did that .
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It's has been pretty impressive of John David Williams to transform Trinidad and Tobago F F ,into an entity just as terrible as the West Indies Cricket Board :applause: Not even Jackular did that .
People can't read between the lines. I have faith that DJW's hand in the TTFA will be questioned more in the next few weeks. He has the tendency to say the wrong things when the spotlight is on him. Kind of like Trump. He is unprofessional. I believe that will be enough for his downfall. God willing
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pull stones,you always put very sensible posts,you don't let your heart over rule your judgement of our team.You have stated facts and people should read it and accept it.I would like to even add a bit more,Hart was kept on for too long,he should have gone after Haiti stopped us with that 1-0 defeat,not getting into the Copa was a massive blow,we then lost to Martinique,that is why we have failed to get in to the Caribbean Cup,not what Santfiet did,Hart did very little and should have gone then.One other point,you said the Mexico result was a fluke,I agree that there was something flukish about that result.
What was going on with the squad around the time of that Haiti defeat? If the game was of such massive importance, why wasn't it reflected in the actions of the TTFA?
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We need specifics about the perceived lack of respect. We need specifics about the off the field issues.
Where is the pointed journalism. We need guided missiles not puff pastry questions
It will come out when Saintfiet is back in Belgium and safe and sound. You think he taking a chance and say the wrong thing in Trini?
It is the duty of the journalist to ask. Did you get the impression that he probed? All he did was to aid Tom's damage control and spin regarding future employment. Aside from pappyshowing his profession ....
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pull stones,you always put very sensible posts,you don't let your heart over rule your judgement of our team.You have stated facts and people should read it and accept it.I would like to even add a bit more,Hart was kept on for too long,he should have gone after Haiti stopped us with that 1-0 defeat,not getting into the Copa was a massive blow,we then lost to Martinique,that is why we have failed to get in to the Caribbean Cup,not what Santfiet did,Hart did very little and should have gone then.One other point,you said the Mexico result was a fluke,I agree that there was something flukish about that result.
Look de 2 imps agree, surprise surprise. 2 ah allyuh rell dotish oui. 3 games against mexico decided by 1 single goal in terms of advantage but thats a fluke. Saintshyte toots heself dong and one claim he is a better coach while the next was praising the wonderful job he was doing en rout to a 1W, 3L record. Steups :banginghead:
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It's has been pretty impressive of John David Williams to transform Trinidad and Tobago F F ,into an entity just as terrible as the West Indies Cricket Board :applause: Not even Jackular did that .
People can't read between the lines. I have faith that DJW's hand in the TTFA will be questioned more in the next few weeks. He has the tendency to say the wrong things when the spotlight is on him. Kind of like Trump. He is unprofessional. I believe that will be enough for his downfall. God willing
pull stones,you always put very sensible posts,you don't let your heart over rule your judgement of our team.You have stated facts and people should read it and accept it.I would like to even add a bit more,Hart was kept on for too long,he should have gone after Haiti stopped us with that 1-0 defeat,not getting into the Copa was a massive blow,we then lost to Martinique,that is why we have failed to get in to the Caribbean Cup,not what Santfiet did,Hart did very little and should have gone then.One other point,you said the Mexico result was a fluke,I agree that there was something flukish about that result.
In the past 3.5 years we play Mexico 3 times. Results were :
Mexico 1 - 0 TT (Gold cup 2013)
Mexico 4 - 4 TT (Gold cup 2015)
Mexico 3 - 3 TT ( Friendly 2015)
It's inaccurate to call those results flukes as the last 3 outings have been very close. I am with Contro, there is a correlation to DJW coming into the picture and the poor form. He is to blame. Not Hart.
Just to put it into context, Saintfiet was coach for just over 30 days. He already talking about the lack of support from the TTFA and DJW. So what do you think Hart experience? Lack of support, sabotage..
Breds, I agree with you. But they can call those results flukes if they want, the TT performed admirably in those 3 games. Hart appeared to be getting team in the right direction. Then everything retrograde after the election. The gap between the last 3-3 tie with Mex. and the 1-0 lost to Haiti was about what ? 6 weeks? Nothing happened for the team. Not a cobo sweat with meh family teams from Grenada, St. Lucia, Vincy or Shabazz GuyaneseXI. I used to beg why we can't jump on a pirogue and go Venezuela and play ah game. Nothing. The team was flat as a tawat in Panama. I personally blamed the players for some of the down fall also. They may have felt they "reach" so to say. They did not do their personal fitness to keep the edge they have gained in the GC. Especially the local lads. Hart and DJW were never on the same page. DJW already had his agenda. When my Breds, Kendal Walkes, told me of the conversations he had with the newly elected, I cringed. I realized then that anybody that Tim Kee hired would be fired. That is the results of the new admin.
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Saintfiet was the default choice for the job as the Trinidad & Tobago Football Association reportedly couldn't afford Frenchman Philippe Troussier's salary terms, and the TTFA technical committee that was working on the coaching hire -- via Google -- questioned whether the other candidates, Colombians Luis Suarez and Eduardo Lara, spoke English.
de search expanding to include facebook and twitter.
maybe dey could try craigslist next?
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Deeks it was 4 months between the last Mexico game and the Haiti playoff.
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WATCH: Saintfiets’ biggest regret
https://www.youtube.com/v/rPFMIK32d6c
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WATCH: Saintfiets’ biggest regret
https://www.youtube.com/v/rPFMIK32d6c
I in work. Somebody please fill me in!
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Deeks it was 4 months between the last Mexico game and the Haiti playoff.
Ok, I got my duration incorrect. So in that 4 months, I can't remember us playing any warm up games. Correct me! So when the time came for the game in Panama, the edge they had from the GC had gone. I was utterly disappointed.
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Deeks in that time we:
Beat Panama away Oct 8
Draw Nicaragua home Oct 13
Beat Guatemala away Nov 13
Draw USA home Nov 17
We then had 7 almost 8 weeks until we played Haiti.
Oh and all those games above were played under RTK administration.
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Deeks in that time we:
Beat Panama away Oct 8
Draw Nicaragua home Oct 13
Beat Guatemala away Nov 13
Draw USA home Nov 17
We then had 7 almost 8 weeks until we played Haiti.
Oh and all those games above were played under RTK administration.
Then the team almost strike before the Haiti game, largely due to the dictator and ttfa new admin..
Let's be real here, Cummings also got shot, everything turned upside down as soon as the dictator entered the frame..
People have to be blind not to see the 360 in the teams fortunes
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It's has been pretty impressive of John David Williams to transform Trinidad and Tobago F F ,into an entity just as terrible as the West Indies Cricket Board :applause: Not even Jackular did that .
People can't read between the lines. I have faith that DJW's hand in the TTFA will be questioned more in the next few weeks. He has the tendency to say the wrong things when the spotlight is on him. Kind of like Trump. He is unprofessional. I believe that will be enough for his downfall. God willing
pull stones,you always put very sensible posts,you don't let your heart over rule your judgement of our team.You have stated facts and people should read it and accept it.I would like to even add a bit more,Hart was kept on for too long,he should have gone after Haiti stopped us with that 1-0 defeat,not getting into the Copa was a massive blow,we then lost to Martinique,that is why we have failed to get in to the Caribbean Cup,not what Santfiet did,Hart did very little and should have gone then.One other point,you said the Mexico result was a fluke,I agree that there was something flukish about that result.
In the past 3.5 years we play Mexico 3 times. Results were :
Mexico 1 - 0 TT (Gold cup 2013)
Mexico 4 - 4 TT (Gold cup 2015)
Mexico 3 - 3 TT ( Friendly 2015)
It's inaccurate to call those results flukes as the last 3 outings have been very close. I am with Contro, there is a correlation to DJW coming into the picture and the poor form. He is to blame. Not Hart.
Just to put it into context, Saintfiet was coach for just over 30 days. He already talking about the lack of support from the TTFA and DJW. So what do you think Hart experience? Lack of support, sabotage..
Breds, I agree with you. But they can call those results flukes if they want, the TT performed admirably in those 3 games. Hart appeared to be getting team in the right direction. Then everything retrograde after the election. The gap between the last 3-3 tie with Mex. and the 1-0 lost to Haiti was about what ? 6 weeks? Nothing happened for the team. Not a cobo sweat with meh family teams from Grenada, St. Lucia, Vincy or Shabazz GuyaneseXI. I used to beg why we can't jump on a pirogue and go Venezuela and play ah game. Nothing. The team was flat as a tawat in Panama. I personally blamed the players for some of the down fall also. They may have felt they "reach" so to say. They did not do their personal fitness to keep the edge they have gained in the GC. Especially the local lads. Hart and DJW were never on the same page. DJW already had his agenda. When my Breds, Kendal Walkes, told me of the conversations he had with the newly elected, I cringed. I realized then that anybody that Tim Kee hired would be fired. That is the results of the new admin.
Venezuela is a swim away. Why we not playing them instead of Nicaragua, Guyana, Grenada, St Lucia etc?
The reality is that we had a system working before DJW took his throne.
The close results from the 2013 and 2015 GC is what got us the friendly against Mexico. I believe there is even an agreement in place for us to play Mexico at least once a year in friendlies. Mexico sees us as a formidable opponent. Funny because my Mexican pardna don't see those games as flukes.
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Very funny stuff ;D
So what else might have lasted longer than Saintfiet?
Live Wire has a few suggestions:
Nigel Paul’s Olympic boxing match…
Kevin Molino’s time between boat parties…
Donald Trump intelligence briefings…
Rufina’s doubles…
Mike Tyson’s comeback…
A solar eclipse…
A scoop of ice cream on a hot day…
Decorum on Carnival Tuesday…
John-Williams’ campaign promises…
FULL ARTICLE (http://wired868.com/2017/01/12/sayonara-saintfiet-live-wire-bids-a-satirical-farewell-to-belgian-football-coach/)
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Love the photo of Saintfiet and Physio Clarke at the bottom of the article
Possible caption?
Take "Resign over compromised integrity" in yuh....how do you people say it?......rookooterkungkung??
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Since djw know Google what about hiring a coach who cyah speak English but could use Google Translate. Open de field a bit
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Venezuela is a swim away. Why we not playing them instead of Nicaragua, Guyana, Grenada, St Lucia etc?
gawd, I don't think playing the socalled lesser teams is an issue. We should schedule games with these teams on a regular basis to give the U-19s, U-20s and U-23s some international experience. But we must try to get games with stronger teams on the mainland. Venezuela should be a regular. A yearly game. This year POS, next year Caracas. Also Colombia and Ecuador. Imagine Pacho was we coach and Jack never arrange for he to bring at least a club from Colombia for a cobo sweat.
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The dictators romp with the terrorizer
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The goal was to keep down Trinidad for all these years, not develop and be a power house.. lol allyuh men feel that was the goal
Y ou asking why we didn't get this friendly and that, because Trinidad is controlled, just like the West Indies, no different
People living in a dream world that think the men that are appointed could do as they please.. those men are there to keep our program at bay and in constant disarray
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Tom rode out with much to say, BUT he didn't complain about not being paid. Maybe he was paid to GO.
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Tom rode out with much to say, BUT he didn't complain about not being paid. Maybe he was paid to GO.
is not month-end yet. he ent know what coming :)
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Tom rode out with much to say, BUT he didn't complain about not being paid. Maybe he was paid to GO.
You sayin he was a prostitute?
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WATCH: Former player Angus Eve and journalist Lasana Liburd both agree that the TTFA has to account to the public following the sudden and embarrassing resignation of Tom Saintfiet
https://www.youtube.com/v/n0XfzreLRHo
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Tom rode out with much to say, BUT he didn't complain about not being paid. Maybe he was paid to GO.
You sayin he was a prostitute?
A jamette would be appropriate by local standards ...
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WATCH: Former player Angus Eve and journalist Lasana Liburd both agree that the TTFA has to account to the public following the sudden and embarrassing resignation of Tom Saintfiet
https://www.youtube.com/v/n0XfzreLRHo
Angus Eve defending David John Williams saying de committee should take blame, but who de f00ck pick de committee, not David himself? Sounds like Eve sucking ass to get de wok..
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WATCH: Tom Saintfiet resigns...What now for Trinidad and Tobago?
https://www.youtube.com/v/3kC6pX9Zjvg
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Trinidad is a big disgrace!!!
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Trinidad is a big disgrace!!!
It Can't be a bigger disgrace than you... it's mathematically and theoretically impossible
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Saintfiet doh waste time nah. Man already apply to be de Head Coach of Swaziland (http://www.times.co.sz/sports/111487-%E2%80%98madze%E2%80%99,-saintfiet-for-sihlangu-job.html).
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Saintfiet doh waste time nah. Man already apply to be de Head Coach of Swaziland (http://www.times.co.sz/sports/111487-%E2%80%98madze%E2%80%99,-saintfiet-for-sihlangu-job.html).
The Saintfiet model. After his introductory press conference he sent applications out. He only just left T&T. He had the Swazis in mind.
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Saintfiet doh waste time nah. Man already apply to be de Head Coach of Swaziland (http://www.times.co.sz/sports/111487-%E2%80%98madze%E2%80%99,-saintfiet-for-sihlangu-job.html).
The Saintfiet model. After his introductory press conference he sent applications out. He only just left T&T. He had the Swazis in mind.
SANTHIEF is a con artist like his former boss...
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Saintfiet doh waste time nah. Man already apply to be de Head Coach of Swaziland (http://www.times.co.sz/sports/111487-%E2%80%98madze%E2%80%99,-saintfiet-for-sihlangu-job.html).
The Saintfiet model. After his introductory press conference he sent applications out. He only just left T&T. He had the Swazis in mind.
SANTHIEF is a con artist like his former boss...
Definitely a CON MAN. But he CON us or was part of DJW CON?
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Man already apply to be de Head Coach of Swaziland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Troussier
Honestly fellahs, whether he is con man or not(I don't think he is a con man. He is a successful opportunist). Allyuh think this man go hot his head over TT. Look for a next job in Africa, where they recycle Euro coaches, especially the Francophone ones. Somebody wrote that DJW first choice was Philipe Troussier. I don't think he was ever a big player or played for France. Does that matter. No. But go to wiki and see how much club and countries he conned into coaching. The only difference between him and Santfiet is, he was successful. He coached no named French teams and was appointed coach by Cote DIvoire in 93 for one year, after 3 yrs with ASEC Mimosas. He was given a chance by them "dotish" Africans. And then he start moving all over Africa. So Santfiet following the footsteps of proven successors. Is just that he has not found his success as yet.
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Tom rode out with much to say, BUT he didn't complain about not being paid. Maybe he was paid to GO.
You sayin he was a prostitute?
No, prostitutes are paid to come not go.
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Tom rode out with much to say, BUT he didn't complain about not being paid. Maybe he was paid to GO.
You sayin he was a prostitute?
No, prostitutes are paid to come not go.
???
Good luck with that. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Saintfiet doh waste time nah. Man already apply to be de Head Coach of Swaziland (http://www.times.co.sz/sports/111487-%E2%80%98madze%E2%80%99,-saintfiet-for-sihlangu-job.html).
The Saintfiet model. After his introductory press conference he sent applications out. He only just left T&T. He had the Swazis in mind.
SANTHIEF is a con artist like his former boss...
Definitely a CON MAN. But he CON us or was part of DJW CON?
Part of djw con to sabotage our program and replace hart
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Look at the laughing stock we become. Saintfiet team have no shame in any case.
http://wired868.com/2017/01/17/maybe-youll-qualify-for-hockey-wcup-saintfiets-staff-insults-tt-eyes-swaziland-job/
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Look at the laughing stock we become. Saintfiet team have no shame in any case.
http://wired868.com/2017/01/17/maybe-youll-qualify-for-hockey-wcup-saintfiets-staff-insults-tt-eyes-swaziland-job/
Wow.
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Come on Berdien...tell us how u REALLY feel
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Look at the laughing stock we become. Saintfiet team have no shame in any case.
http://wired868.com/2017/01/17/maybe-youll-qualify-for-hockey-wcup-saintfiets-staff-insults-tt-eyes-swaziland-job/
Wow.
That's anything... the dictator raping the team dry dry and that worse than anything SANTHIEF and his band of clowns could say
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When you are a laughing stock people laugh at you.
When you are mickey mouse, you do not command the respect of others.
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When you are a laughing stock people laugh at you.
When you are mickey mouse, you do not command the respect of others.
The dictator have TT football in the goutee look back...
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People seem to think Saintfiet came on the cheap, but is that really the case? Match fees etc. But he's proven to be savvy. ;D
(http://www.herald.co.zw/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/TOM.jpg)
Reference to Zimbabwe.
http://www.herald.co.zw/tom-breaks-all-records/
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And he is not relenting in informing the world about professionalism at the TTFA:
https://www.walfoot.be/fra/news/lis/2017-01-19/tom-saintfiet-raconte-son-experience-avec-trinite--et--tobago-absolument-pas-professionnels
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And he is not relenting in informing the world about professionalism at the TTFA:
https://www.walfoot.be/fra/news/lis/2017-01-19/tom-saintfiet-raconte-son-experience-avec-trinite--et--tobago-absolument-pas-professionnels
So he's telling the rest of the world what we already know? That the current administration haven't got a clue? Maybe he'll end up doing us a favour and help get them booted out!
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And he is not relenting in informing the world about professionalism at the TTFA:
https://www.walfoot.be/fra/news/lis/2017-01-19/tom-saintfiet-raconte-son-experience-avec-trinite--et--tobago-absolument-pas-professionnels
google translation from de french
After just 35 days, our compatriot Tom Saintfiet was thrown out of the Trinidadian selection. He who has wandered everywhere has nevertheless been very surprised at what he has lived in the Caribbean ...
Tom Saintfiet (43) has already rolled his bump in countries as exotic as Namibia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, Yemen, Malawi, Togo and Bangladesh. In early December, he began a new adventure with Trinidad & Tobago ... for just over a month. "I was expecting something professional, it was not," he explains.
The Caribbean have had the best page in their football history under Leo Beenhakker in 2006 when they were at the German World Cup. And the country hopes to qualify for 2018. "On paper, Trinidad & Tobago has good players," said Saintfiet. "Unfortunately, the pros who play abroad, I have never seen them!".
Problems with papers, passports, regularization, in match sheets ...
A non-professional organization
"At the end of December, I organized an internship in Nicaragua, but I did not have a team manager ... Result: of the thirty players called, seventeen did not come!", Deplores Saintfiet. "Known players like Hyland of Westerlo or Levi Garcia of the AZ have not been released by their club ... others have not even been contacted! This is the work of a team- In a country like Trinidad & Tobago, when a player misses the call, there is no tank to replace him. Situation so unprofessional as that ".
And now? "An adventure in Belgium, why not? Several clubs have already discussed with me in the past ... I am open to any short-term proposal," says Saintfiet.
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The Caribbean have had the best page in their football history under Leo Beenhakker in 2006 when they were at the German World Cup.
While that was one of the proudest moment in our nation's history, JA did the Caribbean proud in France also.
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And he is not relenting in informing the world about professionalism at the TTFA:
https://www.walfoot.be/fra/news/lis/2017-01-19/tom-saintfiet-raconte-son-experience-avec-trinite--et--tobago-absolument-pas-professionnels
google translation from de french
After just 35 days, our compatriot Tom Saintfiet was thrown out of the Trinidadian selection. He who has wandered everywhere has nevertheless been very surprised at what he has lived in the Caribbean ...
Tom Saintfiet (43) has already rolled his bump in countries as exotic as Namibia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, Yemen, Malawi, Togo and Bangladesh. In early December, he began a new adventure with Trinidad & Tobago ... for just over a month. "I was expecting something professional, it was not," he explains.
The Caribbean have had the best page in their football history under Leo Beenhakker in 2006 when they were at the German World Cup. And the country hopes to qualify for 2018. "On paper, Trinidad & Tobago has good players," said Saintfiet. "Unfortunately, the pros who play abroad, I have never seen them!".
Problems with papers, passports, regularization, in match sheets ...
A non-professional organization
"At the end of December, I organized an internship in Nicaragua, but I did not have a team manager ... Result: of the thirty players called, seventeen did not come!", Deplores Saintfiet. "Known players like Hyland of Westerlo or Levi Garcia of the AZ have not been released by their club ... others have not even been contacted! This is the work of a team- In a country like Trinidad & Tobago, when a player misses the call, there is no tank to replace him. Situation so unprofessional as that ".
And now? "An adventure in Belgium, why not? Several clubs have already discussed with me in the past ... I am open to any short-term proposal," says Saintfiet.
Put that on a billboard along de Highway.
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Ah mean now he would have 4 years instead of 4 weeks, ent?
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;D
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:rotfl: man basically saying Fire Dennis oui! You have my vote.
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:rotfl: allyuh ain easy nah
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I now going to look for the Fire Dennis Lawrence Thread but this could work.....
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Trinbagonians eh know want they want
https://www.youtube.com/v/tvZiXcZwNsI
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:D :D :D
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Trinbagonian eh know want they want
What ah know FOR SURE iz Trinbagonians doh want the state of our football getting worse every month! We cannot even reach the final round of Caribbean football now! So does that mean we must now get used to consistently not qualifying for Gold Cup? we not winning against Caribbean opposition at home! youth teams getting knocked out at the Caribbean stage and Womens team in a disaster. This is major regression in our football and ah sure Trinbagonians doh want dat
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It's September. Saintfiet left in January. By now he would have started and stopped at least 5 or 6 other coaching positions ... you know, added to his experience ... and plus he knows the players ::) ... and he knows to walk wid ah breathalyzer machine.
De best move is to bring him back BUT be more courteous and polite when re-introducing him.
Plus his fitness coach already here. :P
He win. :rotfl:
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Tom Saintfiet appointed new Malta coach
timesofmalta.com
Tom Saintfiet has been appointed as the new Malta national coach, the Malta Football Association announced yesterday.
The Belgian coach takes over the reins of the national team with immediate effect and succeeds Pietro Ghedin whose five-and-a-half-year tenure at the helm of the national team came to end after the Malta’s final 2018 World Cup qualifier against Slovakia last Sunday.
The 44-year-old Saintfiet is a UEFA Pro qualified coach with a wealth of experience in international football, having worked as national coach of several countries, mostly in Africa and Asia.
Among these are Namibia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, Yemen, Malawi and Togo. His most recent role was that of manager of Trinidad and Tobago - a job he quit after just 35 days in charge, citing a lack of support from the local FA.
Saintfiet was awarded the job after emerging as the stand-out candidate in a thorough evaluation exercise carried out by the Malta FA Technical Centre over the past months.
His credentials are also endorsed by the Belgian FA.
“Saintfiet’s footballing knowledge and qualifications allied with his vast experience in international football where he has coached several developing nations, made him the outstanding candidate for the post of Malta coach,” Norman Darmanin Demajo, the Malta FA president, said.
“We are pleased that Saintfiet has accepted our offer to become national coach and we are convinced that he will do an excellent job both for the national side and as a prominent member of our technical sector.”
Saintfiet, who took up coaching at the young age of 24 after his playing career was curtailed by injuries, expressed his satisfaction at his appointment as the new Malta coach.
“I’m honoured to be the new national coach of Malta,” Saintfiet said.
“My ambition is to help the Maltese national team move forward and also assist in the long-term development of Maltese football at all levels with the backing of all the stakeholders.”
Saintfiet’s first match in charge of Malta will be the friendly against Estonia, to be played on November 12 at the National Stadium.
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Well, live is funny. One man's "thrash" is another man's "treasure". Maybe DJW can arrange a game with Malta in the next fifa window.
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The man keeps getting jobs...I should hire his agent.
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His most recent role was that of manager of Trinidad and Tobago - a job he quit after just 35 days in charge, citing a lack of support from the local FA.
This man ent easy. This is what he does say everytime. Rinse wash and repeat.
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His most recent role was that of manager of Trinidad and Tobago - a job he quit after just 35 days in charge, citing a lack of support from the local FA.
This man ent easy. This is what he does say everytime. Rinse wash and repeat.
He lie?
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His most recent role was that of manager of Trinidad and Tobago - a job he quit after just 35 days in charge, citing a lack of support from the local FA.
This man ent easy. This is what he does say everytime. Rinse wash and repeat.
He lie?
He spoke the truth. After one game, everybody knew his days were numbered. And the international fraternity knew that also. This is not 50 years ago where you could pad your resume with bogus info. Internet(facebook) has everything you do.
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This guy has more lives than a tiger cat. The man was appointed coach of Gambia.
http://scores.espn.com/soccer/gambia/story/3568816/gambia-appoint-saintfiet-as-new-coach
Journeyman Belgian coach Tom Saintfiet has signed as the new coach of African side Gambia, who he hopes to take to the 2019 African Nations Cup finals.
Saintfiet has been given a nine-month contract, up to the end of the qualifiers for the continental showpiece, where he will be reunited with one of his former sides, Togo.
Gambia lost their opener 1-0 to Benin and are next in action against group favourites Algeria in September.
Saintfiet has had a remarkable 11 jobs since 2010, most recently with Malta, but also the national teams of Trinidad and Tobago, Bangladesh, Togo, Malawi, Yemen, Ethiopia and Zimbabwe, as well as a stint with South African Premier Soccer League side Free State Stars.
It is as diverse a CV as you are likely to see, and his tenure with Malta was brought to an early end when he was accused by that country's football association of applying for the vacant Cameroon national team post.
Gambia have a few players plying their trade in top European leagues, most notably defender Omar Colley at Sampdoria in Italy.
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There's enough time left in the year for him to manage three other national teams. He should have the Guinness BoR on speed dial.
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Not to mention the parasitic relationship with ppl of a certain ilk. Maybe he is a undercover botanist in search of the sweetest mango. :-\
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Not to mention the parasitic relationship with ppl of a certain ilk.
Belgium notorious for that.