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Title: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 17, 2017, 08:16:10 AM
Name nineTT openers who made their fist Class debut for TT whilst still teenagers.

I am not sure if Andy Ganteaume was 19 or 20 so I have excluded him.

NOT TALL MAN.

Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Deeks on May 17, 2017, 08:51:54 AM
I have one to mind. Richard Gabriel. Six more to go!!!
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Tallman on May 17, 2017, 11:48:24 AM
Name seven TT openers who made their fist Class debut for TT whilst still teenagers.

I am not sure if Andy Ganteaume was 19 or 20 so I have excluded him.

NOT TALL MAN.

Just to be clear, did the seven openers make their debut as openers? For example, Andy Ganteaume eventually became an opener, but he started out batting lower down the order.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 17, 2017, 08:32:49 PM
Name seven TT openers who made their fist Class debut for TT whilst still teenagers.

I am not sure if Andy Ganteaume was 19 or 20 so I have excluded him.

NOT TALL MAN.

Just to be clear, did the seven openers make their debut as openers? For example, Andy Ganteaume eventually became an opener, but he started out batting lower down the order.

Yes, everybody made their debuts as openers. They were selected based on their performances as Openers.

Ganteaume is not  on the list.

Deeks, Gabriel is one. Six eight more to go.  ;D

VB
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 18, 2017, 12:45:34 AM
Sorry, the total is nine ten I just did some research and unless TM can prove me wrong.  ;D
they all opened for TT as teenagers.

VB
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 20, 2017, 04:10:07 AM
Come nah man fellas. Without thinking you could come up with four.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 21, 2017, 05:50:47 AM
Big Phil
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 21, 2017, 10:32:04 AM
Big Phil

OK,

Phil Simmons and Richard Gabriel. Seven more to go.

Hint: two were Indina, two were local white. One was a national footballer.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Deeks on May 21, 2017, 11:21:05 AM
Richard Desouza
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 21, 2017, 11:57:04 AM
Richard Desouza

Desouza was a teenager but not an opener.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: doc on May 21, 2017, 02:50:26 PM
Big Phil

OK,

Phil Simmons and Richard Gabriel. Seven more to go.

Hint: two were Indina, two were local white. One was a national footballer.
Solozano?
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Deeks on May 21, 2017, 03:31:17 PM
Sheldon and Larry Gomes.  ;D. I pulling teet!
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 21, 2017, 05:59:57 PM
Darren Ganga and I believe Gangapersad opened as well, though cannot recall explicitly
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 21, 2017, 06:44:26 PM
Darren Ganga and I believe Gangapersad opened as well, though cannot recall explicitly

Ganga yes. Ganga persad no. but thanks. You made me think of two others at that time. Anil Balliram. He would have made his debut just before or after his 20th birthday in 1994. I am not sure so won't give is name.

Just realized there is another so make it ten in total.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 21, 2017, 06:45:51 PM
?  Gang opened at 18 for TT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daren_Ganga
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 21, 2017, 06:52:47 PM
?  Gang opened at 18 for TT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daren_Ganga

GANGA YES.

Ganga  persad NO
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: 100% Barataria on May 21, 2017, 06:54:56 PM
Hard luck, mis-read your reply, cool, my 2 cents added  ;D
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 21, 2017, 07:46:02 PM
Hard luck, mis-read your reply, cool, my 2 cents added  ;D

Cool. Confirmed so far

Richard Gabriel
Phil Simmons.
Darren Ganga.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 21, 2017, 07:51:48 PM
Big Phil

OK,

Phil Simmons and Richard Gabriel. Seven more to go.

Hint: two were Indina, two were local white. One was a national footballer.
Solozano?

Good one. didn't see this response.
Make it 11  ;D

I starting to feel sorry I ask this question. :D
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: doc on May 22, 2017, 06:02:41 AM
Barath
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Tallman on May 22, 2017, 09:45:11 AM
?  Gang opened at 18 for TT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daren_Ganga

GANGA YES.

Ganga  persad NO

Ganga made his debut for T&T at 18, but NOT as an opener.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Tallman on May 22, 2017, 10:17:07 AM
Darren Ganga and I believe Gangapersad opened as well, though cannot recall explicitly

Ganga yes. Ganga persad no. but thanks. You made me think of two others at that time. Anil Balliram. He would have made his debut just before or after his 20th birthday in 1994. I am not sure so won't give is name.

Just realized there is another so make it ten in total.

Balliram made his debut at 19.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 22, 2017, 02:49:32 PM
Tallest, you could expand or give your source for the Ganga or Balliram comments.

VB
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 22, 2017, 02:54:44 PM
Tallest, you could expand or give your source for the Ganga or Balliram comments.

VB

Btw, when I say First Class debut, I mean four days not List A.

VB
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Tallman on May 22, 2017, 04:25:55 PM
Tallest, you could expand or give your source for the Ganga or Balliram comments.

VB

Ganga's debut was in the 1997 Red Stripe Cup vs Guyana which was played from February 21-24. CLICK HERE (http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1996-97/WI_LOCAL/RSC/T+T_GUY_RSC_21-24FEB1997.html) for the scorecard, which shows that he debuted as a middle order batsman.

Balliram made his debut in the 1994 Red Stripe Cup vs Windward Islands from January 710, when he was aged 19 years, 10 months, 12 days. The scorecard (http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1993-94/WI_LOCAL/RSC/WWD_T+T_RSC_07-10JAN1994.html) shows him opening the batting with Kenneth Williams, who made his first class debut at 15 years old, but not as an opener.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 22, 2017, 05:10:33 PM
Ok. So balliram is in de mix.
Ganga as well because he was a specialist opener who debuted for TT as opposed to a middle order batsman who opened.
You know it never occured to me to watch the date of the match to figure out their age. SMH
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Tallman on May 22, 2017, 08:04:05 PM
I adding these names tuh de list:

Michael Carew
Bryan Davis
Clifford Roach
Lendl Simmons
Jeffrey Stollmeyer
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 22, 2017, 08:09:07 PM
I adding these names tuh de list:

Michael Carew
Bryan Davis
Clifford Roach
Lendl Simmons
Jeffrey Stollmeyer

What part of NOT TALLMAN you didn't understand.

Let me just finish it off, Gabriel, Phil Simmons, Balliram, Ganga, Barath, Solozano and Suruj Ragoonath.

VB
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Tallman on May 22, 2017, 08:37:04 PM
I adding these names tuh de list:

Michael Carew
Bryan Davis
Clifford Roach
Lendl Simmons
Jeffrey Stollmeyer

What part of NOT TALLMAN you didn't understand.

Let me just finish it off, Gabriel, Phil Simmons, Balliram, Ganga, Barath, Solozano and Suruj Ragoonath.

VB

Sometimes you does take too damn long to put up de answers. LOL.

But regarding Ragoonath, he was 21 when he make he debut.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 22, 2017, 08:58:39 PM
I adding these names tuh de list:

Michael Carew
Bryan Davis
Clifford Roach
Lendl Simmons
Jeffrey Stollmeyer

What part of NOT TALLMAN you didn't understand.

Let me just finish it off, Gabriel, Phil Simmons, Balliram, Ganga, Barath, Solozano and Suruj Ragoonath.

VB

Sometimes you does take too damn long to put up de answers. LOL.

But regarding Ragoonath, he was 21 when he make he debut.

WRONG!!

He was 19. Please go here http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1988-89/WI_LOCAL/RSC/LWD_T+T_RSC_10-12FEB1989.html (http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1988-89/WI_LOCAL/RSC/LWD_T+T_RSC_10-12FEB1989.html)

That will teach you to answer ahead of time.  ;D
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Tallman on May 23, 2017, 04:49:09 AM
I adding these names tuh de list:

Michael Carew
Bryan Davis
Clifford Roach
Lendl Simmons
Jeffrey Stollmeyer

What part of NOT TALLMAN you didn't understand.

Let me just finish it off, Gabriel, Phil Simmons, Balliram, Ganga, Barath, Solozano and Suruj Ragoonath.

VB

Sometimes you does take too damn long to put up de answers. LOL.

But regarding Ragoonath, he was 21 when he make he debut.

WRONG!!

He was 19. Please go here http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1988-89/WI_LOCAL/RSC/LWD_T+T_RSC_10-12FEB1989.html (http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1988-89/WI_LOCAL/RSC/LWD_T+T_RSC_10-12FEB1989.html)

That will teach you to answer ahead of time.  ;D

That match was played February 10-12, 1989 and Ragoonath was born on March 22, 1968. So he was exactly 20 years, 10 months, 20 days when he made his debut.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Deeks on May 23, 2017, 05:15:50 AM
hah ha  :D :D. I only remember Richard Gabriel. We get half-day from school to see TT in Shell shield. Gabriel, Bernard Julien and Sheldon Gomes were the school boys on the team. He was ok. Did not make a big score. Bernard of course was superb at bowling. Sheldon was a disappointment. He made quite a few ducks.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 23, 2017, 11:09:16 AM
I adding these names tuh de list:

Michael Carew
Bryan Davis
Clifford Roach
Lendl Simmons
Jeffrey Stollmeyer

What part of NOT TALLMAN you didn't understand.

Let me just finish it off, Gabriel, Phil Simmons, Balliram, Ganga, Barath, Solozano and Suruj Ragoonath.

VB

Sometimes you does take too damn long to put up de answers. LOL.

But regarding Ragoonath, he was 21 when he make he debut.

WRONG!!

He was 19. Please go here http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1988-89/WI_LOCAL/RSC/LWD_T+T_RSC_10-12FEB1989.html (http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1988-89/WI_LOCAL/RSC/LWD_T+T_RSC_10-12FEB1989.html)

That will teach you to answer ahead of time.  ;D

That match was played February 10-12, 1989 and Ragoonath was born on March 22, 1968. So he was exactly 20 years, 10 months, 20 days when he made his debut.
hah ha  :D :D. I only remember Richard Gabriel. We get half-day from school to see TT in Shell shield. Gabriel, Bernard Julien and Sheldon Gomes were the school boys on the team. He was ok. Did not make a big score. Bernard of course was superb at bowling. Sheldon was a disappointment. He made quite a few ducks.

I never pass Maths in school.

Deeks, I heard that Gabriel scored a half century on his FC debut but I will defer to you as you were there.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: asylumseeker on May 23, 2017, 01:59:10 PM
VB, like you wukkin wid ah defective caps gun and Tallman using a late model refined semi-automatic. No matter if you draw first, yuh salt.  :rotfl:

Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: vb on May 23, 2017, 08:31:14 PM
VB, like you wukkin wid ah defective caps gun and Tallman using a late model refined semi-automatic. No matter if you draw first, yuh salt.  :rotfl:



 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Deeks on May 24, 2017, 12:47:54 AM
I adding these names tuh de list:

Michael Carew
Bryan Davis
Clifford Roach
Lendl Simmons
Jeffrey Stollmeyer

What part of NOT TALLMAN you didn't understand.

Let me just finish it off, Gabriel, Phil Simmons, Balliram, Ganga, Barath, Solozano and Suruj Ragoonath.

VB

Sometimes you does take too damn long to put up de answers. LOL.

But regarding Ragoonath, he was 21 when he make he debut.

WRONG!!

He was 19. Please go here http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1988-89/WI_LOCAL/RSC/LWD_T+T_RSC_10-12FEB1989.html (http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1988-89/WI_LOCAL/RSC/LWD_T+T_RSC_10-12FEB1989.html)

That will teach you to answer ahead of time.  ;D

That match was played February 10-12, 1989 and Ragoonath was born on March 22, 1968. So he was exactly 20 years, 10 months, 20 days when he made his debut.
hah ha  :D :D. I only remember Richard Gabriel. We get half-day from school to see TT in Shell shield. Gabriel, Bernard Julien and Sheldon Gomes were the school boys on the team. He was ok. Did not make a big score. Bernard of course was superb at bowling. Sheldon was a disappointment. He made quite a few ducks.

I never pass Maths in school.

Deeks, I heard that Gabriel scored a half century on his FC debut but I will defer to you as you were there.

VB, I can't remember Gabriel score in that first game. He may as well made the fifty, but over all we(Trinis) at that time was expecting him to make the WI Test team. That was in the early 70s. Test cricket was the benchmark.  He eventually made the ODI in the 80s. Bernard was so mature for his age at that time. Sheldon was disappointing with the bat. Nice guy and superb fielder, such that he was selected 12th man on 2 occasions I think.
Title: Re: Teenaged OpenerS (TT)
Post by: Tallman on May 24, 2017, 05:31:23 AM
I adding these names tuh de list:

Michael Carew
Bryan Davis
Clifford Roach
Lendl Simmons
Jeffrey Stollmeyer

What part of NOT TALLMAN you didn't understand.

Let me just finish it off, Gabriel, Phil Simmons, Balliram, Ganga, Barath, Solozano and Suruj Ragoonath.

VB

Sometimes you does take too damn long to put up de answers. LOL.

But regarding Ragoonath, he was 21 when he make he debut.

WRONG!!

He was 19. Please go here http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1988-89/WI_LOCAL/RSC/LWD_T+T_RSC_10-12FEB1989.html (http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1980S/1988-89/WI_LOCAL/RSC/LWD_T+T_RSC_10-12FEB1989.html)

That will teach you to answer ahead of time.  ;D

That match was played February 10-12, 1989 and Ragoonath was born on March 22, 1968. So he was exactly 20 years, 10 months, 20 days when he made his debut.
hah ha  :D :D. I only remember Richard Gabriel. We get half-day from school to see TT in Shell shield. Gabriel, Bernard Julien and Sheldon Gomes were the school boys on the team. He was ok. Did not make a big score. Bernard of course was superb at bowling. Sheldon was a disappointment. He made quite a few ducks.

I never pass Maths in school.

Deeks, I heard that Gabriel scored a half century on his FC debut but I will defer to you as you were there.

Gabriel scored 69 on his first class debut.