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Title: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Flex on November 01, 2017, 01:43:13 AM
As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on the T&T vs Grenada game at the Ato Boldon Stadium on the 11th of November 2017 will be posted here, this way, we can maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.

For the internet users, you can follow the game at:

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Possible Online Streams.

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Possible TV Station.

To be updated.

Trinidad & Tobago Squad

Goalkeepers:

Adrian Foncette (Police FC), Marvin Phillip (Point Fortin Civic), Glenroy Samuel (Morvant Caledonia United).

Defenders:

Mekeil Williams (Colorado Rapids—USA), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force), Sheldon Bateau (FC Kairat—Kazakhstan), Alvin Jones (W Connection), Triston Hodge (W Connection), Kevon Villaroel (North East Stars), Josiah Trimmingham (Club Sando).

Midfielders:

Leston Paul (CD Pasaquina—El Salvador), Nathaniel Garcia (Point Fortin Civic), Kevan George (Jacksonville Armada—USA), Jared London (Club Sando), Neveal Hackshaw (Charleston Battery—USA), Kevin Molino (Minnesota United—USA), Nathan Lewis (San Juan Jabloteh), Neil Benjamin (W Connection), Hashim Arcia (Defence Force), Kathon St Hillaire (St Ann’s Rangers), Levi Garcia (AZ Alkmaar—Netherlands).

Forwards:

Akeem Roach (CD Vida—Honduras), Jamille Boatswain (LDA Alajuelense—Costa Rica), Ricardo John (Toronto FC II—Canada).

Coach - Dennis Lawrence.

Grenada Squad

Goalkeepers

Jason Belfon (W Connection—Trinidad), Shemel Louison (San Juan Jabloteh—Trinidad).

Defenders

Alec Andall (Paradise FC), Ethan Francois-Ravalier (Goshens College—United States), Kennedy Hinkson (San Juan Jabloteh—Trinidad), Kimron Marshall (St. John Sports), Marcio McQueen (Fontenoy United), Rickey Sayers (FCA Darmstadt—Germany), Leaon St. John (Carib Hurricane FC).

Midfielders

Shandon Baptiste (Oxford United FC—England), Tahj Joseph (St. John Sports), Chad Mark (Shamrock FC), Alexander McQueen (Northampton FC—England), Rickey Modeste (Billericay Town FC—England), Irvin Smith (Paradise International FC).

Forwards

Shavon John-Brown (Alderson Broaddus University—United States), Saydrel Lewis (Paradise FC), Kairo Mitchell (Leicester City—England), Rickson Phillip (Paradise International FC), Kwazim Theodore (FC Camerhogne).

Coach - Ashley Ram Folkes.


Updates to follow as we get more info, so keep checking back.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Flex on November 01, 2017, 01:48:21 AM
Hackshaw, Garcia, Boatswain among 24-man T&T squad to face Grenada and Guyana in Couva.
ttproleague.com.


Trinidad and Tobago Men’s Senior Team will officially kick off FIFA World Cup 2022 preparations with back-to-back international friendlies against Caribbean rivals Grenada and Guyana on Nov. 11 and 14, respectively, at the Home of Football – Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva.

The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA), calling on the public to rally behind the national team’s efforts towards Qatar 2022 from the beginning of the campaign, has priced entry fee on two-for-one specials for the Grenada and Guyana friendlies.

Entry costs TT$100 (covered) and TT$50 (uncovered), but buy your ticket for the Grenada game and you automatically have entry for the Guyana game. Tickets will go on sale from Monday 6 Nov. at all NLCB outlets and children under 12 will be admitted free of charge.

“These games represent the start of a process envisioned by coach Lawrence -- supported by the TTFA -- and we want fans to be there from the beginning,” said TTFA president David John Williams, whose local governing body hopes to utilise all international windows to provide competition for the national team.

“Our mission begins with the Caribbean and we will take it step by step from there,” said head coach Dennis Lawrence, who announced a 24-man roster for the upcoming Grenada and Guyana internationals friendlies which kicks off from 6pm and 7:30pm, respectively.

Minnesota United star Kevin Molino, Kazakhstan-based defender Sheldon Bateau, who has been enjoying life at FC Kairat this season, and Costa Rica-based forward Jamille Boatswain are among 11 overseas-based pros to combine with local-based players for the friendlies.

“Obviously we want to continue where we left off versus Mexico and the United States and end the year on a good note as we look ahead to the future,” added Lawrence who will resume national team training on Nov. 6 for the first time since the Soca Warriors’ historic 2-1 World Cup qualifying win over the United States in Couva on October 10.

Khaleem Highland, who captained T&T in the last two games, has been excused due to club commitments in Saudi Arabia with Al-Faisaly FC.

Full Trinidad and Tobago 24-man squad to face Grenada and Guyana

Goalkeepers:

Adrian Foncette (Police FC), Greg Ranjitsingh (Louisville City FC—USA), Glenroy Samuel (Morvant Caledonia United).

Defenders:

Mekeil Williams (Colorado Rapids—USA), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force), Sheldon Bateau (FC Kairat—Kazakhstan), Alvin Jones (W Connection), Triston Hodge (W Connection), Kevon Villaroel (North East Stars), Josiah Trimmingham (Club Sando).

Midfielders:

Leston Paul (CD Pasaquina—El Salvador), Nathaniel Garcia (Point Fortin Civic), Kevan George (Jacksonville Armada—USA), Jared London (Club Sando), Neveal Hackshaw (Charleston Battery—USA), Kevin Molino (Minnesota United—USA), Nathan Lewis (San Juan Jabloteh), Neil Benjamin (W Connection), Hashim Arcia (Defence Force), Kathon St Hillaire (St Ann’s Rangers), Levi Garcia (AZ Alkmaar—Netherlands).

Forwards:

Shahdon Winchester (Murciélagos FC—Mexico), Akeem Roach (CD Vida—Honduras), Jamille Boatswain (LDA Alajuelense—Costa Rica).

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Sam on November 01, 2017, 09:14:38 AM
Glad we playing some games, decent team but I feel players 29 and over like Kevon Villaroel shouldn]t really be on this team, now is de time to groom some younger players, especially left footed players and a number 10.

Noah Powder, Rundell Winchester, Duane Muckette, Shaquell Moore, Andre Fortune, Aikim Andrews, Keston Julien and Tyler David.

Even some of them SSFL youths like Kierron Mason, Oba Augustin, Quinn Rodney, Judah St Louis, Kyle Thomas and Che Benny.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Cocorite on November 01, 2017, 11:54:35 AM
Glad we playing some games, decent team but I feel players 29 and over like Kevon Villaroel shouldn]t really be on this team, now is de time to groom some younger players, especially left footed players and a number 10.

Noah Powder, Rundell Winchester, Duane Muckette, Shaquell Moore, Andre Fortune, Aikim Andrews, Keston Julien and Tyler David.

Even some of them SSFL youths like Kierron Mason, Oba Augustin, Quinn Rodney, Judah St Louis, Kyle Thomas and Che Benny.



And the defender who just left New York City FC

Ah hope Ranjitsingh get a sweat this time
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Deeks on November 01, 2017, 12:52:19 PM
Some U19 and exceptional U-17 should be on the team. We should be grooming some of the these guys for the 2018 CAC games, 2019 PanAm Games and the 2020 Olimpics. Which will lead into the 2022 WC. And we certainly  should be doing the same for the women without a doubt.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 01, 2017, 01:00:55 PM
Waste of time
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 01, 2017, 01:32:13 PM
Glad we playing some games, decent team but I feel players 29 and over like Kevon Villaroel shouldn]t really be on this team, now is de time to groom some younger players, especially left footed players and a number 10.

Noah Powder, Rundell Winchester, Duane Muckette, Shaquell Moore, Andre Fortune, Aikim Andrews, Keston Julien and Tyler David.

Even some of them SSFL youths like Kierron Mason, Oba Augustin, Quinn Rodney, Judah St Louis, Kyle Thomas and Che Benny.

I agree.

However, this being the case, might as well have given Carlos the caps he wants to get to 100 and then say bye.  ::)
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: soccerman on November 01, 2017, 08:21:42 PM
What about Jonathan Glenn? Did he fall off the face of the earth?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: maxg on November 02, 2017, 01:10:13 AM
What about Jonathan Glenn? Did he fall off the face of the earth?
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What about Jonathan Glenn? Did he fall off the face of the earth?
aged : 30. Bench player at North Carolina Fc, Kareem Moses (defender) is a regular starter , he’s 27. Championship semi on the 5th, maybe final our weekend. His (Glenn) time should have been last campaign
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: soccerman on November 02, 2017, 08:23:16 AM
What about Jonathan Glenn? Did he fall off the face of the earth?
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What about Jonathan Glenn? Did he fall off the face of the earth?
aged : 30. Bench player at North Carolina Fc, Kareem Moses (defender) is a regular starter , he’s 27. Championship semi on the 5th, maybe final our weekend. His (Glenn) time should have been last campaign
Didn't know he was 30, I agree, time to move on and look at the younger players.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Sando prince on November 05, 2017, 06:50:20 PM
Well I remember what happen last TWO times we played Grenada.. oh yeah we didn't even make final round of Caribbean Championship last time around as well so at this stage in our football history we not good enough to underestimate ANY caribbean team
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Flex on November 08, 2017, 02:41:38 AM
Molino, Garcia hopes high for T&T.
T&T Guardian Reports.


Minnesota United FC midfielder Kevin Molino, and Levi Garcia, who plays for Eredivisie club AZ Alkmaar have expressed high hopes ahead of this country’s two international friendly matches against Grenada and Guyana on the 11th and 14th of this month at the Ato Boldon Stadium.

Both players at a training session at the Hasely Crawford Stadium yesterday said they were happy to be part of coach Dennis Lawrence’s team that will attempt to conquer Caribbean football once again before it focuses on the Concacaf and FIFA World Cup.

Apart from their confidence, the players were also anticipating the emergence of young players in the upcoming international friendlies. ‘It’s an opportunity for the young players” Molino said, but Garcia who has just returned to full fitness, said he just wants to be back in the country’s starting eleven, staring with the two coming matches.

Both were joined by Point Fortin Civic FC goalkeeper Marvin Phillip, among other seniors in the squad. “It is a good mood in the camp everyone is jolly and we just want to go out there, work hard and finish the year off on a high,” Phillip said.

The trio also alluded to the match ups being instrumental in the players’ continued growth. The country will usher in a new era of football this week as it looks to re-establishing its long-relinquished claim as the powerhouse of the Caribbean. Beyond that, T&T will look toward qualifying for the Digicel Caribbean Cup and the CONCACAF Gold Cup.

Phillip’s recall is due to the unavailability of USA based Gregory Ranjitsingh who was originally selected for the encounters but is now excused due to his club’s qualification for the United Soccer League Cup Finals.

In congratulating Ranjitsingh, coach Dennis Lawrence said, “We had this discussion with Greg when he was selected for the friendlies regarding his team’s end of season expectations, so we were prepared to make adjustments. We are all professionals and I am not going to prevent a player from such an opportunity at this stage.”

Shahdon Winchester, the Murcielagos FC striker in Mexico will also be unavailable for the Grenada match due to his club’s crucial clash with Atlante on Saturday. Tickets for the matches went on sale yesterday at all NLCB outlets at $100.00 for covered stands and $50.00 for uncovered. Children under 12 years enter free. Football fans have also been given the option to see both matches with the purchase of one ticket.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Deeks on November 08, 2017, 08:09:03 AM
Well, it seems that DL, has been following Greg’s performance in the USL. On the other hand, he might be getting his info from SocaWarriors. net
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: soccerman on November 08, 2017, 10:29:23 AM
Well, it seems that DL, has been following Greg’s performance in the USL. On the other hand, he might be getting his info from SocaWarriors. net
This website is a terrific resource. I know more about T&T football and players around the globe than than a lot of my friends involved in local football from just visiting this site.
Title: Hinkson highlights Grenada squad for T&T friendly
Post by: Tallman on November 10, 2017, 02:57:17 PM
Hinkson highlights Grenada squad for T&T friendly
CONCACAF.com


Grenada named Thursday a 20-man roster for a friendly against host Trinidad & Tobago on Saturday at Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva

Featured in the side is defender/midfielder Kennedy Hinkson, who plays in T&T for San Juan Jabloteh. The 31-year-old earned his first cap last month in a 5-0 loss to 2018 World Cup qualifier Panama.

Head coach Vin Blaine also called up local stars Irvin Smith and Rickson Phillip (both of Paradise International FC), as well as forward Shavon John-Brown, the top scorer for U.S. college side Alderson Broaddus University with six goals in the just completed season.

ROSTER

GOALKEEPERS: Jason Belfon, Shemel Louison

DEFENDERS: Alec Andall, Ethan Francois-Ravalier, Kennedy Hinkson, Kimron Marshall, Marcio McQueen, Rickey Sayers, Leaon St. John

MIDFIELDERS: Shandon Baptiste, Tahj Joseph, Chad Mark, Alexander McQueen, Ricky Modeste, Irvin Smith

FORWARDS: Shavon John-Brown, Saydrel Lewis, Kairo Mitchell, Rickson Phillip, Kwazim Theodore
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Flex on November 11, 2017, 05:27:57 AM
Young Warriors tangle with Grenada.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


The quest to reclaim dominance in regional football will begin this evening at 6pm when a new-look T&T Soca Warriors team will take on Grenada at the Ato Boldon Stadium in Balmain Couva.

Strangely T&T has not beaten the ‘Spice Men’ for the past 12 years, with the last two meetings between the teams ending in similar 2-2 draws in St George’s. Yesterday, the Grenadians who were scheduled to arrive in T&T for a pre-game training session, had to be placed on another flight due to protest action by the airline.

They are likely to arrive just in time to head straight on the pitch, where an anxious bunch of TT players, being led by captain Sheldon Bateau will await them. The central defender said because we have a young squad, it will be a difficult match for them.

He believes the Grenadians are ideal opponents in the country’s rebuilding stage since the Spice Men drew with the Warriors at home the last time the teams met. “Now we have them at home here, so we need to win this game. We are considered the big dogs in the Caribbean so Grenada will be coming 200 percent, but the guys will be ready to respond. We are just ready to give that good showing to the fans and build that confidence in them” Bateau explained.

Assistant coach Stern John said it will be an opportunity for the young lads to show themselves and get a taste of international football. According to John “We want to go out and give a good account of ourselves.

We want to play good football, football that we know we can play and what we have been playing for the past couple of months, and get a good result.”

T&T Football Association president David John-Williams scuffed at resistance to have Grenada as opponents, saying the Grenadians have kept us out of two Gold Cups in the past.

Meanwhile an Under-20 Women’s match between the T&T team and a Select XI, scheduled to be played at 4pm was cancelled to allow the field to be in the best condition for the TT/Grenada game.

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tallman on November 11, 2017, 01:33:53 PM
TTFA statement: Due to an industrial relations crisis with regional air carrier LIAT, the Grenada Senior Men's National Football Team was unable to arrive in Trinidad in time for its scheduled Friendly International versus Trinidad and Tobago carded for the Ato Boldon Stadium at 6 pm.
The match will now be played at 7:30 pm today at the same venue.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: vb on November 11, 2017, 02:01:48 PM
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: royal on November 11, 2017, 05:26:39 PM
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: trini_stallion on November 11, 2017, 05:30:04 PM
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tallman on November 11, 2017, 05:37:06 PM
(Teams)

Trinidad and Tobago (4-2-3-1): 22.Adrian Foncette; 17.Alvin Jones (20.Jamille Boatswain 77th), 13.Curtis Gonzales, 18.Triston Hodge, 3.Kevon Villaroel; 19.Kevan George, 26.Jared London (7.Nathan Lewis 71st); 12.Kathon St Hillaire, 10.Kevin Molino (capt), 16.Levi Garcia; 9.Akeem Roach (15.Ricardo John 84th).

Unused substitutes: 1.Marvin Phillip (GK), 21.Glenroy Samuel (GK); 2.Aubrey David, 6.Josiah Trimmingham, 8.Neveal Hackshaw, 11.Neil Benjamin Jr, 14.Hashim Arcia, 23.Nathaniel Garcia.

Coach: Dennis Lawrence

Grenada (4-4-2): 1.Jason Belfon (capt); 18.Ethan Francois-Ravalier, 16.Alec Andall, 15.Irvin Smith, 4.Leaon St John; 17.Alexander McQueen (19.Kwazim Theodore 63rd), 3.Kennedy Hinkson (7.Rickson Phillip 67th), 6.Shandon Baptiste, 20.Ricky Modeste (13.Rickey Sayers 82nd); 11.Kairo Mitchell (10.Saydrel Lewis 76th), 21.Shavon John-Brown (9.Marcio McQueen 91st).

Unused substitutes: 22.Shemel Louison (GK), 5.Kemron Marshall, 8.Chad Mark, 14.Tahj Joseph.

Coach: Ashley Folkes

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Deeks on November 11, 2017, 05:56:24 PM
Guys, I think Andre is the best. The man is the anglo version of the spanish broadcaster. He is real kixx.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 11, 2017, 06:00:06 PM
Trinidad and Tobago (Starting XI):
22. Adrian Foncette (GK), 17. Alvin Jones, 13. Curtis Gonzales, 18. Triston Hodge, 3. Kevon Villaroel, 19. Kevan George, 26. Jared London, 10. Kevin Molino (captain), 12. Kathon St. Hillaire, 16. Levi Garcia; 9. Akeem Roach.

A Neymar type captaincy.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tallman on November 11, 2017, 06:43:13 PM
GOAL: Shandon Baptiste gives Grenada a 1-0 lead over Trinidad and Tobago in the 49th minute.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tallman on November 11, 2017, 07:05:07 PM
GOAL: Ricky Modeste gives Grenada a 2-0 advantage over Trinidad and Tobago in the 72nd minute
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tobago28 on November 11, 2017, 07:06:04 PM
Glad we playing some games, decent team but I feel players 29 and over like Kevon Villaroel shouldn]t really be on this team, now is de time to groom some younger players, especially left footed players and a number 10.

Noah Powder, Rundell Winchester, Duane Muckette, Shaquell Moore, Andre Fortune, Aikim Andrews, Keston Julien and Tyler David.

Even some of them SSFL youths like Kierron Mason, Oba Augustin, Quinn Rodney, Judah St Louis, Kyle Thomas and Che Benny.

Sam

Those players not playing for WConnection.

Tristan Hodge in 2016 could not survive 5 games at Toronto FC II but he keeps getting called. Kevon Villareol is 30 years old in Pro League and you have 2 or 3 18/19 year old LWB playing at a much higher level than him but not getting called.

This is a total waste of time
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tallman on November 11, 2017, 07:22:20 PM
GOAL: Jamille Boatswain pulls one back for Trinidad and Tobago in the 89th minute, who now trail Grenada 2-1.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tallman on November 11, 2017, 07:23:35 PM
GOALLLLLL!!!! Kevin Molino with the equalizer. Trinidad and Tobago 2-2 Grenada.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tallman on November 11, 2017, 07:29:31 PM
FINAL: Trinidad and Tobago 2-2 Grenada. Goals for T&T by Jamille Boatswain (89’) and Kevin Molino (90’+1). Goals for Grenada by Shandon Baptiste (49’) and Ricky Modeste (72’).
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Cocorite on November 11, 2017, 07:29:48 PM
Ah doh like Dennis as we coach. Bring back Hart
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tobago28 on November 11, 2017, 07:30:45 PM
Poor, poor performance. Anyone happy with a draw against Grenada have no standards
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tobago28 on November 11, 2017, 07:31:27 PM
Ah doh like Dennis as we coach. Bring back Hart

If only your opinion and mine count, we would have Hart back already
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: daryn on November 11, 2017, 07:34:35 PM
Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: royal on November 11, 2017, 07:35:11 PM
Lawrence has to learn how to adjust to a game and be flexible and not be dogmatic to his game plan. Hodge and Roach had horrible games but they were there at the end.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Cocorite on November 11, 2017, 07:51:47 PM
Lawrence has to learn how to adjust to a game and be flexible and not be dogmatic to his game plan. Hodge and Roach had horrible games but they were there at the end.

He has to also understand that T&T need to assert ourselves and not rush (lack composure in front of goal) and get giddy. Those subs were screaming to be made by the 60th min.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Sando prince on November 11, 2017, 08:09:01 PM
Poor, poor performance. Anyone happy with a draw against Grenada have no standards

yeah but I don't get a sense of uproar from the media, so I expect more of the same. Iz like everybody just accept we not even good enough to be a top Caribbean team anymore
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Deeks on November 11, 2017, 10:09:08 PM
Football has been so bad that the media don't really care. But to be honest, we not good enough. And the Grenadians are always psyched up to play their Trini cousins.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: injunchile on November 11, 2017, 10:24:14 PM
What was the attendance like- Some thing is drastically wrong if we cant beat Grenada with this team that we put on display. Still leaking goals- down 2- nil near the end of the game. Some one's job has to be on the line.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tallman on November 11, 2017, 10:47:28 PM
What was the attendance like- Some thing is drastically wrong if we cant beat Grenada with this team that we put on display. Still leaking goals- down 2- nil near the end of the game. Some one's job has to be on the line.

From what I heard, about 2,000-2,500.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: pull stones on November 12, 2017, 12:03:38 AM
Some of these members are absolutely amazing to me I swear. After one game and some of you are already calling for the coaches scalp? It's a proven fact that we don't match up well with caribbean opposition and struggle tremendously with CFU teams as oppose to the central americans whom we tend to have an easier time with. please give the coach a chance, as it stands we're in the rebuilding phase and the experiment is on. Please be patient folks.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Trini _2026 on November 12, 2017, 06:32:46 AM
shandon baptiste is british brorn
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 12, 2017, 08:25:20 AM
Lawrence for assistant coach. Bring back Hart. Put DJW on a slow boat to China. See all yuh in Qatar 2022.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: real madness on November 12, 2017, 08:51:47 AM
Some of these members are absolutely amazing to me I swear. After one game and some of you are already calling for the coaches scalp? It's a proven fact that we don't match up well with caribbean opposition and struggle tremendously with CFU teams as oppose to the central americans whom we tend to have an easier time with. please give the coach a chance, as it stands we're in the rebuilding phase and the experiment is on. Please be patient folks.

We struggle with CFU teams because we are not good.  We tend to have an easier time with Central Americans, I am not sure what you are saying since we don't beat them either.  I understand your point about giving Lawrence time but at the same time Tite came in and turned around Brazil immediately.  Lawrence with the team a while, had all the WCQ games to iron out stuff so I think it reasonable for people to at least expect us to beat Grenada.  I am not saying Lawrence is Tite and we have the same talent as Brazil, I am saying we should at least be able to beat Grenada by now.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Sando prince on November 12, 2017, 09:10:53 AM
Some of these members are absolutely amazing to me I swear. After one game and some of you are already calling for the coaches scalp? It's a proven fact that we don't match up well with caribbean opposition and struggle tremendously with CFU teams as oppose to the central americans whom we tend to have an easier time with. please give the coach a chance, as it stands we're in the rebuilding phase and the experiment is on. Please be patient folks.

Maybe yuh need to check our record against Costa Rica, Honduras and Mexico then edit your comment
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Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 12, 2017, 10:40:00 AM
Some of these members are absolutely amazing to me I swear. After one game and some of you are already calling for the coaches scalp? It's a proven fact that we don't match up well with caribbean opposition and struggle tremendously with CFU teams as oppose to the central americans whom we tend to have an easier time with. please give the coach a chance, as it stands we're in the rebuilding phase and the experiment is on. Please be patient folks.

You serious? After one game? How many games has DL won since taking over? I count 3.

Historically speaking, games against Grenada and similar CFU opposition, used to be a walk in the park. Now we struggling to get a tie.

I feel DL does have a role to play in the national set up. But not as coach. Assistant yes. Hart was the best thing to happen for the national set up since beenie. Bring back Hart. Plain and simple. Get rid of DJW before the Caribbean cup is what the focus should be.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Deeks on November 12, 2017, 11:42:00 AM
. Hart was the best thing to happen for the national set up since beenie. Bring back Hart. Plain and simple. Get rid of DJW before the


Breds, Hart eh coming back. That is, as long as DJW there. Grenada is no longer a walk in the park. They know how Trini play. A lot of their coaches were schooled in TT. That is the same attitude US came with the other day. I am not saying we should not be beating Caribbean teams. But it is not a given as before. This team is not as good as the one that play the US at Ato. Lot of new faces.

 But this is a good thing that Grenada almost or should have beaten them. This is good for the young players on the team who have aspirations of going overseas. This should serve as a shock to their psyche. They thinking they could go overseas to play ball, and they can't beat "small island" Grenada. Well that should serve as a wake up call for the players that they "not dey yet". They need to work on their skills. The club coaches should be working to develop them. DL getting the finish product of the pro- league. He has just 4 to 5 days to work with them. Yes he may need to change his approach and find a new way to motivate these guys. But these guys need to work on their skills, physical and intensity. Unfortunately their clubs appear to be falling short in developing them into Carbbean champs.

Our clubs did not even win the CCL. Beaten by a club from a "baseball-loving" country
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: pull stones on November 12, 2017, 11:44:37 AM
Some of these members are absolutely amazing to me I swear. After one game and some of you are already calling for the coaches scalp? It's a proven fact that we don't match up well with caribbean opposition and struggle tremendously with CFU teams as oppose to the central americans whom we tend to have an easier time with. please give the coach a chance, as it stands we're in the rebuilding phase and the experiment is on. Please be patient folks.

Maybe yuh need to check our record against Costa Rica, Honduras and Mexico then edit your comment
.
costa rica and honduras are not the only central american teams in concacaf and dont forget that mexico is geographically in north america. as for my statement, I think folks need to read well before they comment negatively, the words that I use are fitting, i specifically mentioned easier time, not that we beat or dominate them but rather we match up better against compete better play better create more chances etc.

just take into consideration the the past two years, we loss to haiti twice in very crucial games (under Steven hart's tenure) loss to Jamaica at home struggled to beat st vincent away in the qualifiers narrowly got passed barbados was kicked out the gold cup by martinique losses again to haiti and Suriname respecitively at home drew with grenada away early this year losses to Guyana in 2011 has struggled with bermuda tremendously what more evidence do we need to see that we have a problem with faster bigger stronger opponents?

these other teams in the caribbean may not be technically sound but make no mistakes they are bigger faster stronger and more determined than our lads. and all this nonsense about firing the coach because we drew with grenada in a friendly amounts to your trini arrogance, when was Grenada was ever a cake walk? the coach is experimenting with new players and maybe trying to implement a system and folks are comparing him to brazil's coach? you all are too much. :rotfl:.


PS. Steven hart won only one of his last eight games, I didn't hear no one calling for his head especially that 4-0 trashing to klinsman the worst beating we've taken from uncle sam, how quickly we forget. let's be thankful that we have someone willing enough to coach these bunch of goats and instead of crying on the coach we should be throwing our support behind the brother, because lets face it our players are not as good as we imagine and lawrence sure has his work cut out for him.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Deeks on November 12, 2017, 11:58:35 AM
because we drew with grenada in a friendly is your trini arrogance, when was Grenada was ever a cake walk? the coach is experimenting with new players and maybe trying to implement a system and folks are comparing him to brazil's coach? you all are too much. :rotfl:.

I remember a time when TT club teams would go Grenada and Vincy, and beat the national teams. But I agree with you on this.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: pull stones on November 12, 2017, 12:07:02 PM
. Hart was the best thing to happen for the national set up since beenie. Bring back Hart. Plain and simple. Get rid of DJW before the


Breds, Hart eh coming back. That is, as long as DJW there. Grenada is no longer a walk in the park. They know how Trini play. A lot of their coaches were schooled in TT. That is the same attitude US came with the other day. I am not saying we should not be beating Caribbean teams. But it is not a given as before. This team is not as good as the one that play the US at Ato. Lot of new faces.

 But this is a good thing that Grenada almost or should have beaten them. This is good for the young players on the team who have aspirations of going overseas. This should serve as a shock to their psyche. They thinking they could go overseas to play ball, and they can't beat "small island" Grenada. Well that should serve as a wake up call for the players that they "not dey yet". They need to work on their skills. The club coaches should be working to develop them. DL getting the finish product of the pro- league. He has just 4 to 5 days to work with them. Yes he may need to change his approach and find a new way to motivate these guys. But these guys need to work on their skills, physical and intensity. Unfortunately their clubs appear to be falling short in developing them into Carbbean champs.

Our clubs did not even win the CCL. Beaten by a club from a "baseball-loving" country
well said. these living room coaches are spoiled by champions league and big euro leagues football. ask many of them who are their favorite teams and 90 % of their replies would either favor a euro top 4 team and that is the yard stick test they use to measure our lads. no one dare say jablote joe public or st anns rangers as their favorite team, just ask the locals when last they went to a pro league game or if they even dare to wear a pro league jersey in public. the problem with these guys is that they want it good and they want it now.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: palos on November 12, 2017, 12:17:29 PM
Prepare yourselves for plenty more of this in the years to come

Kudos to the reported 2000 to 2500 fans that allegedly came out to see the game.  Die hard T&T supporters, family and friends
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: pull stones on November 12, 2017, 12:27:14 PM
because we drew with grenada in a friendly is your trini arrogance, when was Grenada was ever a cake walk? the coach is experimenting with new players and maybe trying to implement a system and folks are comparing him to brazil's coach? you all are too much. :rotfl:.

I remember a time when TT club teams would go Grenada and Vincy, and beat the national teams. But I agree with you on this.
that was then this is now. let's face it we only dominated those teams back then because they didn't have it together. but now they have english boys with grendian and vincentian passports guys born and raised in europe playing in their lower leagues who are just as good or better than our lads and more technically sound in the knowledge of the modern game. Grenada and st vincent now have players in the mls and league one and two in england and to compound on that the bulk of their players are playing or have played in our league, in reality we are developing most of the caribbean teams in our very own league and then cry a river when they beat us.

 what we need to do is develop our players at a very young age and find ways to bring back football in the communities around the island and get the private sector on board to pump money into football. but no one is seeing this, all they give a dam about is winning and winning pretty, don't they know that winning pretty comes with a huge price tag?

Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: pull stones on November 12, 2017, 12:35:19 PM
Prepare yourselves for plenty more of this in the years to come

Kudos to the reported 2000 to 2500 fans that allegedly came out to see the game.  Die hard T&T supporters, family and friends
here you go with the gloom and doom, why can't we see this as the beginning of the rebuilding process where we have to get down and dirty in the clean up campaign, why not reserve our judgment for later.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Deeks on November 12, 2017, 02:01:18 PM
get the private sector on board to pump money into football

There's  a couple of private companies that sponsoring teams and specific competitions. FCB cup, Intecol and primary school football. There is more, but can't recall off meh head. But do the others want to sponsor? I honestly don't know. And I don't know how how TTFA approaches the business sector to assist in developmental projects. Since I following football, I can't remember companies doing long term football projects. They sponsor teams for uniforms.  Assist teamsgoing abroad, etc. Can't remember developmental projects.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: lefty on November 12, 2017, 02:16:24 PM
first ting dennis need to do is sit down and work out his system......too many formation changes.....some times we have to adapt to counter d opposition but dennis changes the system almost every game....how yuh supposed to have yuh side well drilled in d short time yuh have dem when d team doh even have a consistent shape or even ah base shape dat yuh adjust to fit game situations......

it is very clear dat we still not analyzing teams.........but analysis not really in we blood so, there is that.....steups
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tobago28 on November 12, 2017, 04:38:15 PM
Prepare yourselves for plenty more of this in the years to come

Kudos to the reported 2000 to 2500 fans that allegedly came out to see the game.  Die hard T&T supporters, family and friends
here you go with the gloom and doom, why can't we see this as the beginning of the rebuilding process where we have to get down and dirty in the clean up campaign, why not reserve our judgment for later.
This is not rebuilding,  this is clearly a coach and an FA with no plan for the future. We are calling up players to geta look at them that but these players will be 33 and older by 2022. It makes sense to include young players with seasonned experienced veterans though those veterans will be too old in 2022. These seasoned veterans have so much to share with the young guys that these fringe national  players that will be too old in 2022  do not have. England played Germany a few days ago with a very young squad. We play Grenada with Pro League men that will be too old to compete for 2022. Pure pack a shit
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: coache on November 12, 2017, 08:28:49 PM
David Lawrence is a great Coach! The man put the USA out of the World Cup. What does it matter if the man knows how to make his team play good football..that doesn't matter at all.

The final score was 2-2 ...so what?

..is a Friendly...
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: vb on November 12, 2017, 09:26:40 PM
because we drew with grenada in a friendly is your trini arrogance, when was Grenada was ever a cake walk? the coach is experimenting with new players and maybe trying to implement a system and folks are comparing him to brazil's coach? you all are too much. :rotfl:.

I remember a time when TT club teams would go Grenada and Vincy, and beat the national teams. But I agree with you on this.

Well said, the days of Guyana, Bermuda, Grenada and some of the other islands being a cake walk are over. In addition, every time the Coach is experimenting in an exhibition anything can happen. Gally struggled with Grenada, Barbados and Guyana a year before 1989 in exhibition games.

At least six of those Grenadians are playing in the UK or the US so they might actually have some quality players who should not be underrated.

I fully expect to beat Gren. in a WC qualifier but truthfully in an exhibition anything can happen.

VB
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Sando prince on November 12, 2017, 09:33:52 PM

Is it that the other caribbean islands are better or is T&T is much worse than before? I will choose the latter
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Dinner Mints on November 12, 2017, 10:20:22 PM

Is it that the other caribbean islands are better or is T&T is much worse than before?
Both are likely true, and meet somewhere in the middle.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Controversial on November 12, 2017, 10:28:08 PM
People still talking about this tow the line coach and jokey team...

The writing was on the wall over a year ago  :D
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: palos on November 12, 2017, 10:32:11 PM
Prepare yourselves for plenty more of this in the years to come

Kudos to the reported 2000 to 2500 fans that allegedly came out to see the game.  Die hard T&T supporters, family and friends
here you go with the gloom and doom, why can't we see this as the beginning of the rebuilding process where we have to get down and dirty in the clean up campaign, why not reserve our judgment for later.

The team had already rebuilt and was having success. 

Allyuh puppeteers decide to sabotage the team to use it as dey personal audition stage to try and sell players in the Pro League to make $ fuh deyself.

Now you have the gall to come on here and preach bout rebuilding and patience?

Allyuh must be really feel people dotish in trute.  Your message board name well appropriate.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Cocorite on November 12, 2017, 11:52:41 PM
Prepare yourselves for plenty more of this in the years to come

Kudos to the reported 2000 to 2500 fans that allegedly came out to see the game.  Die hard T&T supporters, family and friends
here you go with the gloom and doom, why can't we see this as the beginning of the rebuilding process where we have to get down and dirty in the clean up campaign, why not reserve our judgment for later.

The team had already rebuilt and was having success. 

Allyuh puppeteers decide to sabotage the team to use it as dey personal audition stage to try and sell players in the Pro League to make $ fuh deyself.

Now you have the gall to come on here and preach bout rebuilding and patience?

Allyuh must be really feel people dotish in trute.  Your message board name well appropriate.

That's the truth . . .
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: pull stones on November 13, 2017, 12:12:25 AM
Prepare yourselves for plenty more of this in the years to come

Kudos to the reported 2000 to 2500 fans that allegedly came out to see the game.  Die hard T&T supporters, family and friends
here you go with the gloom and doom, why can't we see this as the beginning of the rebuilding process where we have to get down and dirty in the clean up campaign, why not reserve our judgment for later.

The team had already rebuilt and was having success. 

Allyuh puppeteers decide to sabotage the team to use it as dey personal audition stage to try and sell players in the Pro League to make $ fuh deyself.

Now you have the gall to come on here and preach bout rebuilding and patience?

Allyuh must be really feel people dotish in trute.  Your message board name well appropriate.
you are a very matter of fact kind of poster who post from a very narrow position base on how you see it at the moment and not from a position of knowledge and research, so i am not surprised by your point of view. the same people who's complaining now were not brining up the same concerns last month when we beat the yankees taking into consideration that absolutely nothing has changed. do I hear fair weather fans?
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: pull stones on November 13, 2017, 12:25:48 AM
Prepare yourselves for plenty more of this in the years to come

Kudos to the reported 2000 to 2500 fans that allegedly came out to see the game.  Die hard T&T supporters, family and friends
here you go with the gloom and doom, why can't we see this as the beginning of the rebuilding process where we have to get down and dirty in the clean up campaign, why not reserve our judgment for later.

The team had already rebuilt and was having success. 

Allyuh puppeteers decide to sabotage the team to use it as dey personal audition stage to try and sell players in the Pro League to make $ fuh deyself.

Now you have the gall to come on here and preach bout rebuilding and patience?

Allyuh must be really feel people dotish in trute.  Your message board name well appropriate.

That's the truth . . .
when did that happen? maybe im missing something here. I was somehow under the impression that rebuilding a team takes time and lots of effort and not some fly by night venture. lord give me strength. sigh.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: RichGFootball on November 13, 2017, 02:50:47 AM
Prepare yourselves for plenty more of this in the years to come

Kudos to the reported 2000 to 2500 fans that allegedly came out to see the game.  Die hard T&T supporters, family and friends
here you go with the gloom and doom, why can't we see this as the beginning of the rebuilding process where we have to get down and dirty in the clean up campaign, why not reserve our judgment for later.

The team had already rebuilt and was having success. 

Allyuh puppeteers decide to sabotage the team to use it as dey personal audition stage to try and sell players in the Pro League to make $ fuh deyself.

Now you have the gall to come on here and preach bout rebuilding and patience?

Allyuh must be really feel people dotish in trute.  Your message board name well appropriate.

That's the truth . . .
when did that happen? maybe im missing something here. I was somehow under the impression that rebuilding a team takes time and lots of effort and not some fly by night venture. lord give me strength. sigh.

Go back in history...maybe 18-24 months prior to today's date. Check to see which person was at the helm of the T&T men's senior team. You should need strentgh to ask why are we rebuilding a team that had been in the same rebuilding process almost 2 years prior. Instability is a hell of a thing eh.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: sjahrain on November 13, 2017, 03:51:43 AM
Argument for the sake of argument
How many rebuilding are you going to endure before you have a satisfactory product
We should be building on what was achieved...now I will like to go back futher than two years ago
Lets begin with the aftermath of 2006...yes a different set of characters but with the same dotish mental..all seeking authority while not accepting responsibility....yes the responsibility of where we find ourselves today....
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tallman on November 13, 2017, 05:03:13 AM
WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago’s 2-2 draw with Grenada

https://www.youtube.com/v/VJJIgkiQ4e0
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tobago28 on November 13, 2017, 05:41:18 AM
Prepare yourselves for plenty more of this in the years to come

Kudos to the reported 2000 to 2500 fans that allegedly came out to see the game.  Die hard T&T supporters, family and friends
here you go with the gloom and doom, why can't we see this as the beginning of the rebuilding process where we have to get down and dirty in the clean up campaign, why not reserve our judgment for later.

The team had already rebuilt and was having success. 

Allyuh puppeteers decide to sabotage the team to use it as dey personal audition stage to try and sell players in the Pro League to make $ fuh deyself.

Now you have the gall to come on here and preach bout rebuilding and patience?

Allyuh must be really feel people dotish in trute.  Your message board name well appropriate.

Tell dem Palos. They really feel people chupid.. The irony is all the players they putting on stage to audition keep falling off the stage making it even harder to sell dem.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: pull stones on November 13, 2017, 05:49:49 AM
Prepare yourselves for plenty more of this in the years to come

Kudos to the reported 2000 to 2500 fans that allegedly came out to see the game.  Die hard T&T supporters, family and friends
here you go with the gloom and doom, why can't we see this as the beginning of the rebuilding process where we have to get down and dirty in the clean up campaign, why not reserve our judgment for later.

The team had already rebuilt and was having success. 

Allyuh puppeteers decide to sabotage the team to use it as dey personal audition stage to try and sell players in the Pro League to make $ fuh deyself.

Now you have the gall to come on here and preach bout rebuilding and patience?

Allyuh must be really feel people dotish in trute.  Your message board name well appropriate.

That's the truth . . .
when did that happen? maybe im missing something here. I was somehow under the impression that rebuilding a team takes time and lots of effort and not some fly by night venture. lord give me strength. sigh.

Go back in history...maybe 18-24 months prior to today's date. Check to see which person was at the helm of the T&T men's senior team. You should need strentgh to ask why are we rebuilding a team that had been in the same rebuilding process almost 2 years prior. Instability is a hell of a thing eh.
ok guys im not on the menu here. I was not the one who brought up the rebuilding argument if my memory serves me right this talk only came up after we failed to qualify and the announcement was made by the coach that the team went into reconstruction mode as of the mexico encounter. all I'm saying is that folks need not bash the coach after a poor game which we tend to do a lot. people are crying for dennis lawrence scalp to bring whom may I presume, another european to take us to the world cup? and when that fail we fire him and move on to the next big name coach, what's next? it's like all you are interested in is going to the world cup and no one cares about fixing the state of our football.

my position is that we give the coach some more time with the team instead of being so eager for favorable results, yes it's a result oriented sport but sometimes you have to creep before you run.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: 100% Barataria on November 13, 2017, 06:02:56 AM
Pull Stones,  the point being made is that we keep revisiting the rebuilding equation dating back to 06 due to continuous divisive admin actions, Jack and now DJW.  That is the larger part of our issue
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tobago28 on November 13, 2017, 06:03:10 AM
Prepare yourselves for plenty more of this in the years to come

Kudos to the reported 2000 to 2500 fans that allegedly came out to see the game.  Die hard T&T supporters, family and friends
here you go with the gloom and doom, why can't we see this as the beginning of the rebuilding process where we have to get down and dirty in the clean up campaign, why not reserve our judgment for later.

The team had already rebuilt and was having success. 

Allyuh puppeteers decide to sabotage the team to use it as dey personal audition stage to try and sell players in the Pro League to make $ fuh deyself.

Now you have the gall to come on here and preach bout rebuilding and patience?

Allyuh must be really feel people dotish in trute.  Your message board name well appropriate.

That's the truth . . .
when did that happen? maybe im missing something here. I was somehow under the impression that rebuilding a team takes time and lots of effort and not some fly by night venture. lord give me strength. sigh.

Go back in history...maybe 18-24 months prior to today's date. Check to see which person was at the helm of the T&T men's senior team. You should need strentgh to ask why are we rebuilding a team that had been in the same rebuilding process almost 2 years prior. Instability is a hell of a thing eh.

Doh waste yuh time with Pull Stones he is a mouth piece for the TTFA, using words like facts without facts. He wanted to give Sainfiet a chance to rebuild too. I am not for firing Dennis but lets be honest his record is  record is poor.

Dennis has coach 12 mataches; Won 3, drawn 2(both Grenada) and Lost 7. The wins against USA and Panama in WCQ, the other a friendly versus Barbados. He lost 6 WCQ games in a row.  Some people still high over eliminating the USA and so silly confusing that for progress and development.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: FF on November 13, 2017, 07:18:57 AM
Prepare yourselves for plenty more of this in the years to come

Kudos to the reported 2000 to 2500 fans that allegedly came out to see the game.  Die hard T&T supporters, family and friends
here you go with the gloom and doom, why can't we see this as the beginning of the rebuilding process where we have to get down and dirty in the clean up campaign, why not reserve our judgment for later.

The team had already rebuilt and was having success. 

Allyuh puppeteers decide to sabotage the team to use it as dey personal audition stage to try and sell players in the Pro League to make $ fuh deyself.

Now you have the gall to come on here and preach bout rebuilding and patience?

Allyuh must be really feel people dotish in trute.  Your message board name well appropriate.
you are a very matter of fact kind of poster who post from a very narrow position base on how you see it at the moment and not from a position of knowledge and research, so i am not surprised by your point of view. the same people who's complaining now were not brining up the same concerns last month when we beat the yankees taking into consideration that absolutely nothing has changed. do I hear fair weather fans?


The highlighted above is categorically FALSE
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: injunchile on November 13, 2017, 07:44:17 AM
Looking at the highlights- Thanks to TallMan- we were wasteful in front of goal . Hence the result.
 I was awaiting the Coach's response but he seems to be silent.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Deeks on November 13, 2017, 08:22:21 AM
Looking at the highlights- Thanks to TallMan- we were wasteful in front of goal . Hence the result.
 I was awaiting the Coach's response but he seems to be silent.

Yes. Had they scored some of the chances, some of these arguments would have been muted. We all need to look at the entire game to come to a conclusion how this team played. What was the possession? Grenada played a counter acting game, and it worked. It appears we were attacking most of the game but did not put away our chances.

As far as rebuilding, what it is allyuh want? After every WC qualification, there is a rebuilding process by every country in the world. Some have more work to do than others. The top 10 to 15 countries are able to easily bring in playing because of their youth system. Our youth is not funtioning right. We still depending on the high school for players.  You all would not believe this, but England, yes Hengland is the hottest thing in Euro. From U-19 to U-15. DId Brazil, Arg, etc do any rebuilding after the Rio WC? They did some. But they have so many good players waiting in line, it is much easier for them. Look at that Dybala kid from Argentina. Gabriel Jesus from Brazil. The Germans have two squads , and the B squad could probably beat anybody, even the A squad on a given day.

This period between now and the next CFU tournament  is the time we should bring younger players. But we need to balance the team.  I willing to give DL the benefit for now. I would like to see what plans the TTFA has for the next CFU tournament. We need a strong team with younger players for that tournamnet. Forget Gold Cup for now. I talking about CFU. How is TTFA and DL going to prepare for this tournament. For this tournament, I hope TTFA demand that players like Garcia, JJ, Molino be available. Because we are not able to beat the Caribbean teams with home based players.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: pull stones on November 13, 2017, 12:52:02 PM
Looking at the highlights- Thanks to TallMan- we were wasteful in front of goal . Hence the result.
 I was awaiting the Coach's response but he seems to be silent.

Yes. Had they scored some of the chances, some of these arguments would have been muted. We all need to look at the entire game to come to a conclusion how this team played. What was the possession? Grenada played a counter acting game, and it worked. It appears we were attacking most of the game but did not put away our chances.

As far as rebuilding, what it is allyuh want? After every WC qualification, there is a rebuilding process by every country in the world. Some have more work to do than others. The top 10 to 15 countries are able to easily bring in playing because of their youth system. Our youth is not funtioning right. We still depending on the high school for players.  You all would not believe this, but England, yes Hengland is the hottest thing in Euro. From U-19 to U-15. DId Brazil, Arg, etc do any rebuilding after the Rio WC? They did some. But they have so many good players waiting in line, it is much easier for them. Look at that Dybala kid from Argentina. Gabriel Jesus from Brazil. The Germans have two squads , and the B squad could probably beat anybody, even the A squad on a given day.

This period between now and the next CFU tournament  is the time we should bring younger players. But we need to balance the team.  I willing to give DL the benefit for now. I would like to see what plans the TTFA has for the next CFU tournament. We need a strong team with younger players for that tournamnet. Forget Gold Cup for now. I talking about CFU. How is TTFA and DL going to prepare for this tournament. For this tournament, I hope TTFA demand that players like Garcia, JJ, Molino be available. Because we are not able to beat the Caribbean teams with home based players.
thanks mate i could not have said it any better if i tried and that is what i have been trying to relate. guys want the coach axed because he didn't take us to the world cup but fail to see how much better we have been playing, but i have one question, which coach in the past has been able to beat the usa at full strength in a must win game and was able to take a lead away in mexico with a mexican A team but though unfortunate not to hold on and get the win?

these guys want lawrence gone to bring in whom, another euro brand name to come and train a bunch of unskilled players who lack technical ability? our problem is not coaching because steve hart was a very good coach but lost his last seven games and crucial games at that, so where do we go from here? what we need is administrators and people with ideas to come in and clean up TT football where some serious money could be pumped in the sport which would include fixing the pro league which can generate it's own income.

we have to start from scratch and roll up our sleeves and get serious about football and stop blaming the coaches the problem is not with the coaches but with lack of player development funding and infrastructure, we don't have one youth development program that replenishes the teams from youth level up something that is very common in footballing nations but we expect to beat countries who do. very irrational and unrealistic if you ask me.
Title: Re: Thread for the T&T vs Grenada Game (11-Nov-2017)
Post by: Tallman on November 13, 2017, 04:35:54 PM
WATCH: Post-match comments from Head Coach Dennis Lawrence following Trinidad and Tobago’s 2-2 draw with Grenada

https://www.youtube.com/v/JrVQ55_eE7E
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