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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Flex on April 12, 2019, 12:35:18 AM
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As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on the T&T vs Panama (https://www.goldcup.org/en/gold-cup/game-detail/476769#tab_match=match-details) Gold Cup game at the Allianz Field in St. Paul on the 18th of June 2019 will be posted here, this way, we can maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.
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Possible Online Streams.
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Possible TV Station.
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Trinidad & Tobago Squad
Goalkeepers:
Adrian Foncette (Police FC), Marvin Phillip (Central FC), Gregory Ranjitsingh (Orlando City—USA);
Defenders:
Alvin Jones (OKC Energy FC—USA), Aubrey David (Deportivo Saprissa—Costa Rica), Daneil Cyrus (Al Orobah—Saudi Arabia), Carlyle Mitchell (La Horquetta Rangers), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force), Mekeil Williams (Oklahoma City Energy FC—USA);
Midfielders:
Kevan George (Charlotte Independence—USA), Neveal Hackshaw (Indy Eleven—USA), Akeem Humphrey (Club Sando), Leston Paul (Memphis 901 FC—USA), Khaleem Hyland (Al Faisaly FC—Saudi Arabia), Duane Muckette (Memphis 901 FC—USA), Cordell Cato (Oklahoma City Energy FC—USA), Levi Garcia (Kiryat Shmona—Israel), Kevin Molino (Minnesota United—USA), Nathan Lewis (Lansing Ignite—USA), Lester Peltier (Al Orobah—Saudi Arabia), Jomal Williams (W Connection), Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders—USA);
Forward:
Shahdon Winchester (W Connection).
Coach - Dennis Lawrence (TRI).
Panama Squad
Goalkeepers
To be updated.
Defenders
To be updated.
Midfielders
To be updated.
Forwards
To be updated.
Coach - .
Updates to follow as we get more info, so keep checking back.
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Goodluck to the team. Hope we can start the tournament with a positive result.
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I predict 3 draws
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I predict 3 draws
You are correct.
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Change the grey to red!!!
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WATCH: Head Coach Dennis Lawrence and midfielder Leston Paul at the Panama vs T&T pre-match press conference.
https://www.youtube.com/v/XIDxEp3wLpc
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T&T goes for opening win against Panama.
TTFA Media.
Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior Men will be aiming to start their 2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup campaign on a winning note when they face off with Panama in the first Group D match of a double header at Allianz Field in Minnesota on Tuesday.T&T will raise the curtains from 6:30pm (7:30pm TT time) with the United States taking on Guyana from 9:00pm
Allianz is the home venue of Kevin Molino’s Minnesota United and the T&T squad got their first feel of the venue as head coach Dennis Lawrence conducted the official training session on Monday evening. A capacity crowd of 19,000 is expected for the double header.
T&T’s last Gold Cup outing was a quarter final encounter with the Panamanians in the quarter finals of the 2015 competition. T&T went out 6-5 on penalties after nine rounds of kicks following a 1-1 scoreline after extra time. T&T then won a home 2018 World Cup qualifier 1-0 on a Kevin Molino winner before losing 3-0 in Panama City.
“At this point in time I don’t think history will play a part,” Hyland told TTFA Media. “This is a new competition. There are new faces on board, new ambitions, new atmosphere, in a different country and none of us are home. It’s all up for the grabs so we have to take front before front takes us and hopefully we can get the three points,” he added.
“The mood is great and everyone is gelling and doing their tasks that they have been asked to do by the head coach and the staff. In every major tournament your first game is one of the most important and in these tournaments you have to take it game by game. This game game we know is going to be a difficult one. We know the strengths of Panama and we know they are a hardworking team but we have to match them throughout the game,” Hyland continued.
The Saudi Arabia based midfielder, formerly of Belgium side Racing Genk had a brief message for the T&T faithful, saying “I just want the fans to keep faith in us. This is your team. We believe in ourselves and you have to believe in us and it will only happen if we come together as one country, one nation and that’s the only way things will get better… by supporting each other.”
Meantime, defender Aubrey David has joined theTrinidad and Tobago Men’s team for the 2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup.
Following a lengthy delay, David was granted his US Visa on Friday and linked up with teammates in the United States. He comes into the 23-man squad for Charleston Battery defender Leland Archer who will leave the camp on Wednesday following the opening group match versus Panama on Tuesday.David who plays for Deportivo Saprissa in Costa Rica, is eligible for Tuesday’s match.
Fans can view the matches on Fox Soccer Soccer Plus, Fox Sports 2, Univision or Concacafgo.com
Lawrence and Leston Paul at #GoldCup2019 PreMatch Press Conference (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIDxEp3wLpc)
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Good luck and God bless to the team, and to us long-suffering fans. Ah really lookin forward to a good game tonight.
Any kind of win for us will do; convincing, scrappy, last-gasp, anything.
Anybody know if this competition have VAR?
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Anybody know if this competition have VAR?
No VAR
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Anybody know if this competition have VAR?
No VAR
VAR? No VAR for Concacaf!
Dat zone go be left in the half
Let dem wait another year or two
De Ref an’ dem go impromptu
Whenever there is a questionable call
No problem, man; jus’ give the Empire the ball
Yuh fine ah does put T&T in a hole
Wah yuh expect, not give the powers the goal?
VAR? What VAR
The Ref will be the Superstar
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Anybody know if this competition have VAR?
No VAR
VAR? No VAR for Concacaf!
Dat zone go be left in the half
Let dem wait another year or two
De Ref an’ dem go impromptu
Whenever there is a questionable call
No problem, man; jus’ give the Empire the ball
Yuh fine ah does put T&T in a hole
Wah yuh expect, not give the powers the goal?
VAR? What VAR
The Ref will be the Superstar
Concacaf said:
"We are committed to bringing VAR into Concacaf. We know there’s obviously a lot to be done because VAR is not just the technology aspect, there’s a lot of the human aspect as well that goes into the training, the simulators. That’s where we’re committed to starting," Zubiria said. "Already we have a set of referees that’s familiar with it. At the World Cup, they’ve been exposed to VAR, they were actually VAR assistants at the World Cup in Russia, but we need to grow that pool of referees that then we can put in our major competitions to officiate using the technology. The technology is probably the easiest part. It’s more how to use that technology to make sure the right decisions are made."
https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/concacaf-makes-rule-changes-to-bring-gold-cup-in-line-with-other-/1jjcpb2gf9gh1z211ltmodn9m
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Thanks Tallest!
Dah was a prompt to draw out Sam ;D
De rel poet, nah
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On a day like today, Peltier should be reminded how tortured and inconsolable he was when we lost to Panama in 2015. :devil:
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On a day like today, Peltier should be reminded how tortured and inconsolable he was when we lost to Panama in 2015. :devil:
He should just be glad dat he get back in de team.
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BIG UP to the SocaWarriors. You all doing us proud, making sugar out of sh!t. It not lost on the true fans. We know how it go. We Trini to the bone - expecting top top of the class without paying a dime - but you represent us well; win, lose or draw. Play your hearts out and make yourselves proud and we will be proud too. This is a great chance for you all, b/c you not on anybody's radar and you KNOW you have the talent. Break out. I knockin a cold one back while I watch..doh make mih buss a wine! ;D
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On a day like today, Peltier should be reminded how tortured and inconsolable he was when we lost to Panama in 2015. :devil:
He should just be glad dat he get back in de team.
:)
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Good Luck, Warriors!!!
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Getting excited. Love to see my NT in action.
VB
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If you have reliable links for ppl to view the match, post them please.
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Good Luck T&T
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Any channel bringing the game locally? Streams?
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Found this stream on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI8TQmB0a8g
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http://firstrowsportes.net/soccer/panama-trinidad-tobago-krk710c54?l=3191574362
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been a long time since T&T took a shot at Panama goalie smh
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1st half was dead , both teams playing midfield football and not creating in the final third of attack. Hoping for better in the second half
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Levi trying to do it all again on our best oportunity still plays for himself...this not fkin laksmi
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Allyuh hire a defender wah allyuh expect
Underwhelming
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they saving joevin as a secret weapon orwa?
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This is what our football has come to??..Watching paint dry has more excitement... :cursing: :cursing:
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Decent. Nothing spectacular. We desperately missing some men who could dribble with speed. And a creative mid-fielder. We basically have 3 defensive minded mids. Can't win with that. But the team looking decent.
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We would have real joy if we make d pitch wide and utilize late runs from d opposite flank....dem opportunities clear as day and one time levi stay on d last defender's shoulder we created a break but Levi didn't try to square when presented
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Decent. Nothing spectacular. We desperately missing some men who could dribble with speed. And a creative mid-fielder. We basically have 3 defensive minded mids. Can't win with that. But the team looking decent.
Deeks we better off playin direct right now we just doin it wrong....levi and at least one winger need to straddle d back line from wide and d mids needs to feed diagonal balls just behind or in front d defence
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first half of pure rubbish. No urgency , uninspired and no finish
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Panama playing as much shit as we are at this rate the US women could beat we
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No fffing surprise
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Now that Panama score expect T&T to play with passion and aggression, allyuh know we like it that hard way smh
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panama 1 tnt 0
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Steups shocking play
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Was this Lawerence strategy geez!
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Beating a dead horse, but I hope all the old talkers now realize how important a KJ was to our attack. Ball eh sticking up front at all.
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So really? Panama striker got the rebound twice off marvin phillip and no T&T defender intervened. They just stand there and watch him take two rebounds before he score Pan second goal
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WHERE IS HART!!!!!!!
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Missing KJ BADDDDD
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shit reaction from d team on dat play
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Even if the team had Hart and KJ this performance so is still no good. team lack passion and creativity in the final end to score a goal. The players playing clueless and flat
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Believe me if KJ was playing it will be no different because there will be no creativity in midfield to give him support
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Beating a dead horse, but I hope all the old talkers now realize how important a KJ was to our attack. Ball eh sticking up front at all.
no body to link d play, Levi not doing dat
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So really? Panama striker got the rebound twice off marvin phillip and no T&T defender intervened. They just stand there and watch him take two rebounds before he score Pan second goal
i was expecting cyrus to run on the line
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So really? Panama striker got the rebound twice off marvin phillip and no T&T defender intervened. They just stand there and watch him take two rebounds before he score Pan second goal
i was expecting cyrus to run on the line
ent!!
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BTW TOP TWO ANDVANCE
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Pity about John Bostock.
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but how Joevin did not start this game? I would like to hear Lawrence strategy behind this move
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SOOOO MUCHHH BUUULLLSHIT GOIMG ON
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T&T players just jogging on the field, its like they give up already
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Like they say " yuh reap what yuh sow " . This team set up and playing exactly like every other game we played. No midfield attacking plan, move the ball from side to side in the back and long hopefull balls to no one. Hoping to catch a lucky opportunity on counterattack once in a blue moon...Absolutely pathetic. Time for Lawrence to march on
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WE DOH HAVE A CLUE HOW TO GET TO THE GOAL OR TAKE A BLASTED SHOT!!!!!!! :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead:
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we win d ball den progressing it so slow we gettin close down easy......Fck man FckFckFckFckFckFckFckFck :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated:
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WHERE IS THE CAPTAIN HYLAND? because I have not heard his name all game!
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:D seriously but why is Hyland captain? because this is not the first time I see him in a game where he is having NO impact whatsoever
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A F :cursing: :cursing:ING DISASTER
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dis team know how to attack on d break, my god
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Unimpressive performance. These guys have crazy skills, but don't understand the game they get paid to play.
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Wait nah. Like men wasn't following this team for the past 18 months?? Or even the past 6 months or 3 weeks?
Come nah man.
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I don't know about crazy skills. They certainly lack players who have creative ability. Especially in the middle of the field.
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Wait nah. Like men wasn't following this team for the past 18 months?? Or even the past 6 months or 3 weeks?
Come nah man.
True, you said it, should not be surprised
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Wait nah. Like men wasn't following this team for the past 18 months?? Or even the past 6 months or 3 weeks?
Come nah man.
I have I fed up cuss about d same shit, we attackin issues have solutions yet we only play one proper diagonal for Levi to get on to and he f**k it up playin hero
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The fish does rot from the head. Cast blame where it is due
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Right now I am not even sure if T&T deserve to be in the Gold Cup :D
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Honest question: When last we score a goal?
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Honest question: When last we score a goal?
Well I am sure Tallman will answer with the stats. But I know we failed to score any goals in our last two games against Canada and Japan
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uae iran wales japan canada etc for this
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Honest question: When last we score a goal?
Well I am sure Tallman will answer with the stats. But I know we failed to score any goals in our last two games against Canada and Japan
we did not score since iran
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This was a sad outing from a team who've had great preparation. Basic things this team failed at all night. We adjusted nothing in 90 minutes. We kept playing around the back into the wingers and then lost the ball. In the 88 minute we were still doing this. Panama just allowed us to play the ball into the winger and then shut the door. Why didn't Lawrence adjust our strategy?
Our defenders are terrible with the ball at their feet. Why are we trying to play out when Cyrus (any of our defenders)can't use the ball? Cyrus can only do one thing and is tackle the ball away. That's it. Alvin Jones looked like he never saw the game before. Very disappointed in Hyland. He's been at it for to long to still be this invisible. No leadership. We didn't even try to win corners at the end of the game.
I don't get this. It's very perplexing :frustrated: watching our approach. We had no purpose. None. Nada. Zilch.
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uae iran wales japan canada etc for this
Exactly
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Great preparation??!! Ha haiiii
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I tired see us concede goals like this.
Defenders too casual around those fast strikers.
The 2nd goal ah feel sorry for we keeps, man make 2 great saves and get a hand to the 3rd with the defence nowhere to be seen.
Ah guess we just hadda beat USA and Guyana.
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This transition from Hart to Lawrence has been heart breaking, team has absolutely no flair at all. This whole team Except Joevin Jones, Garcia and Cato looked like they didn't have a clue going forward.
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The best this team has played in a minute..... we gave up 2...but l like what l see
Got weak knees in the offensive third...
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This was a sad outing from a team who've had great preparation. Basic things this team failed at all night. We adjusted nothing in 90 minutes. We kept playing around the back into the wingers and then lost the ball. In the 88 minute we were still doing this. Panama just allowed us to play the ball into the winger and then shut the door. Why didn't Lawrence adjust our strategy?
Our defenders are terrible with the ball at their feet. Why are we trying to play out when Cyrus (any of our defenders)can't use the ball? Cyrus can only do one thing and is tackle the ball away. That's it. Alvin Jones looked like he never saw the game before. Very disappointed in Hyland. He's been at it for to long to still be this invisible. No leadership. We didn't even try to win corners at the end of the game.
I don't get this. It's very perplexing :frustrated: watching our approach. We had no purpose. None. Nada. Zilch.
Is d same shit through d middle d problem through d wings, is d....um...."build up" if yuh could call it dat, to f'cking slow must ah d time, big gaps from left to right but no switchin play or it too slow....out wide is d best solution for dis team....dey jus doin everyting wrong and nobody reading to game to direct d play
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Nothing in mid-field. We poor! No creativity. We need some new guys. Anybody in the current under -23 pool can replace some of the current ones. Really disappointed in Jomal Williams. Had a lot of promise 2 to 3 years ago. Was not effective. Hyland! What can I say.
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I don't even know where to start with my criticism. First I think Lawrence needs to grow some balls and I hope he reads this...you have better options at the keeper position. You're sticking with a keeper who can't use his feet, doesn't know how to narrow angles, refuses to come out of the box, can't hold on to the ball and is just not ready for this level. Apparently whoever is telling him to pick the keeper thinks shot blocking is goalkeeping.
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Poorest performance ever and I mean ever, this team continues to make the same errors over and over, Marvin Phillip is a terrible keeper and that would never change for me both goals were partially his fault, Cyrus is not a central defender and Aubrey David just joined the team on Sunday he’s played in none of the warm up matches yet he starts, WTF dennis?
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Lemme take some positives yes (a la Dreamer): I like how Cyrus play. He step up. Alvin Jones might be faulted with that 1st goal (he wasn't even in the frame), and he gave up a lot of errant passes, but I get the feeling that if he settle into this level of play he will become a better player. Levi I thought had a decent game compared to his games in the past. He got the freedom to express himself, and he took on players, but the system he playing in nobody up top with him as a foil so he can't do it on his own, but I hope he continues to settle and grow. I always like Nathan Lewis' shift, to me he does be all over the pitch. Joevin show he have the confidence at this level, but to me it look like no strategy to utilize his talents in place (or no clear instructions on his role) -- still good crosses - but no forwards on the other end; he dribbles nice in the middle too, but I dunno.
okay daiz it. I would love to see Dennis Lawrence post match interview b/c it never look to me like there is a well thought-on plan on how to score. Just 10 men behind the ball all the time.
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This was a sad outing from a team who've had great preparation. Basic things this team failed at all night. We adjusted nothing in 90 minutes. We kept playing around the back into the wingers and then lost the ball. In the 88 minute we were still doing this. Panama just allowed us to play the ball into the winger and then shut the door. Why didn't Lawrence adjust our strategy?
Our defenders are terrible with the ball at their feet. Why are we trying to play out when Cyrus (any of our defenders)can't use the ball? Cyrus can only do one thing and is tackle the ball away. That's it. Alvin Jones looked like he never saw the game before. Very disappointed in Hyland. He's been at it for to long to still be this invisible. No leadership. We didn't even try to win corners at the end of the game.
I don't get this. It's very perplexing :frustrated: watching our approach. We had no purpose. None. Nada. Zilch.
Is d same shit through d middle d problem through d wings, is d....um...."build up" if yuh could call it dat, to f'cking slow must ah d time, big gaps from left to right but no switchin play or it too slow....out wide is d best solution for dis team....dey jus doin everyting wrong and nobody reading to game to direct d play
Garcia and Lewis should have run the wing ragged with pace and skill.
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I tired see us concede goals like this.
Defenders too casual around those fast strikers.
The 2nd goal ah feel sorry for we keeps, man make 2 great saves and get a hand to the 3rd with the defence nowhere to be seen.
Ah guess we just hadda beat USA and Guyana.
WHAT ! BEAT WHO STEUUUPPS WE AIN'T WINNING NOTHING IN THIS CUP! LAWRENCE JUST DOES NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO TAKE THIS TEAM FORWARD. HE BETTER OFF COACHING THAILAND WOMEN TEAM! HIS COACHING RECORD IS NOT WHERE IT SHOULD BE WITH THIS TEAM
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Cannot fault Phillips on either goal...on the second one he made two saves and even touched the third attempt which scored...where were his four defenders...ball watching...
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US GOING TO SLAUGHTER US IN OHIO NEXT WEEK!!!!!!
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Mr. Kounty...Alvin Jones is 25 if he eh hit he prime yet ..when would he....someone needs to see if he is color blind and even so he should be able to differentiate between dark and light. He probably led the Panama teams in passes completed.
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Cannot fault Phillips on either goal...on the second one he made two saves and even touched the third attempt which scored...where were his four defenders...ball watching...
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This was a sad outing from a team who've had great preparation. Basic things this team failed at all night. We adjusted nothing in 90 minutes. We kept playing around the back into the wingers and then lost the ball. In the 88 minute we were still doing this. Panama just allowed us to play the ball into the winger and then shut the door. Why didn't Lawrence adjust our strategy?
Our defenders are terrible with the ball at their feet. Why are we trying to play out when Cyrus (any of our defenders)can't use the ball? Cyrus can only do one thing and is tackle the ball away. That's it. Alvin Jones looked like he never saw the game before. Very disappointed in Hyland. He's been at it for to long to still be this invisible. No leadership. We didn't even try to win corners at the end of the game.
I don't get this. It's very perplexing :frustrated: watching our approach. We had no purpose. None. Nada. Zilch.
Is d same shit through d middle d problem through d wings, is d....um...."build up" if yuh could call it dat, to f'cking slow must ah d time, big gaps from left to right but no switchin play or it too slow....out wide is d best solution for dis team....dey jus doin everyting wrong and nobody reading to game to direct d play
Garcia and Lewis should have run the wing ragged with pace and skill.
then switch d play for late man runs especially for Levi.....Panama was pulling across narrow whole game, but still maintain dat Levi does telegraph too much and this is predictable to any center\fullback who actually know how to defend
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Panama was a must win game, and judging by this performance there no way in hell we are beating the USA again, not in America,. let’s face it this team doesn’t inspire any confidence in me or anyone. I declare it’s over, stick a fork in us we’re done.
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One thing for sure D. Lawrence has been found wanting as he doesn't know the difference between strategy and tactics.
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Lemme take some positives yes (a la Dreamer): I like how Cyrus play. He step up. Alvin Jones might be faulted with that 1st goal (he wasn't even in the frame), and he gave up a lot of errant passes, but I get the feeling that if he settle into this level of play he will become a better player. Levi I thought had a decent game compared to his games in the past. He got the freedom to express himself, and he took on players, but the system he playing in nobody up top with him as a foil so he can't do it on his own, but I hope he continues to settle and grow. I always like Nathan Lewis' shift, to me he does be all over the pitch. Joevin show he have the confidence at this level, but to me it look like no strategy to utilize his talents in place (or no clear instructions on his role) -- still good crosses - but no forwards on the other end; he dribbles nice in the middle too, but I dunno.
okay daiz it. I would love to see Dennis Lawrence post match interview b/c it never look to me like there is a well thought-on plan on how to score. Just 10 men behind the ball all the time.
what game you watched mate? the names you mentioned were the biggest impediments all game long. Someone needs to tell Garcia and Lewis that they are not pele and instead of beatsing their way into a wall of players since the hex and losing the ball on every attempt, they need to realize that passing the ball and making runs in the box yields better results.
As for Cyrus, that boy needs to grow bunions on his ass from sitting on the bench. he had no clue what to do with the ball tonight and often logs the ball up field for a turn overand, he’s at best an emergency option. IMO dennis got it way wrong tonight. there’s no way you play molino as a striker he’s more effective playing from behind. Curtis gonzales and mikiel Williams should have started in the center with Cyrus on the bench. Oh well panama did it to us again.
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It seemed like no one wanted the ball. Our movement off the ball was atrocious, and the passing was despicable. Open passes being missed all game; players hiding behind Panama players and not being open; continuous back passing; no midfield; Joevin not starting. It all boils down to coaching. Firing Hart was the biggest mistake Trinidad football ever made (that led to Jones retirement).
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It seemed like no one wanted the ball. Our movement off the ball was atrocious, and the passing was despicable. Open passes being missed all game; players hiding behind Panama players and not being open; continuous back passing; no midfield; Joevin not starting. It all boils down to coaching. Firing Hart was the biggest mistake Trinidad football ever made (that led to Jones retirement).
I think injuries really led to Jones retirement tbh.
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Honest question: When last we score a goal?
We have been scoreless in the last six games. The last time we scored was against UAE last September.
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Honest question: When last we score a goal?
We have been scoreless in the last six games. The last time we scored was against UAE last September.
Gracias.
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WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago's 2-0 loss to Panama
https://www.youtube.com/v/Tt5z78W_r0o
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It became quite clear while watching this game tonight that this team has no quality none at all. We actually struggle to put a string of attacking passes together and Panama wasn’t even that good a team. and I just don’t understand lobbing the ball in the opponent’s box hoping for a miracle, IMO that tantamount to giving the ball away. that happened with hart and now with Lawrence, that’s a total waste of a good possession.
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WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago's 2-0 loss to Panama
https://www.youtube.com/v/Tt5z78W_r0o
shameful bloody performance. look how Cyrus escorted the attacker instead of putting a body on him or putting in a tackle giving him the opportunity to shoot at the keep the ball watched while the goal scorer got two shots, what a disgusting display,ay of football. I guess the draw with Japan went to their heads.
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A whole lot of presumptuous passing over beatsing and running into defensive human walls, that’s what I have been seeing on the attacking end of this team. Anyway the Guyana keeper had a right to save that 4th goal, that goal was quite savable.
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Maybe we should get some of the Venes who have been regularized and who can play football to rep T&T in our next game?!
As an incentive any Vene player that scores for us gets instant T&T citizenship! ;)
And btw I don't care if our Trinvene football players can't speak English as I can't handle witnessing another awful T&T performance like we had against Panama last night.
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T&T starts Gold Cup 2019 with 2-0 defeat.
TTFA Media.
Trinidad and Tobago’s 2019 Gold Cup campaign got off to a disappointing start in Minnesota on Tuesday night as they went down 2-0 to Panama at the Allianz Field.
T&T actually had the first real attack on goal with a play down the right but couldn’t finish off as they would have hoped. Levi Garcia has a couple good moments in attack but had nothing to show for it.
Moments before half time skipper Khaleem Hyland saw volley flash inches wide of the upright as both teams laboured to a 0-0 scoreline going into the break.
The breakthrough for Panama came in the 53rd minute. Panama had possession in the final third where Gabriel Torres sent a delicate pass through to Armando Cooper. The veteran attacking midfielder calmly cut by onrushing Trinidad and Tobago goalkeeper Marvin Phillip, before slotting home to put his side ahead. The play started when Hyland gave up possession in his team’s half.
Fifteen minutes later, after a phenomenal double-save from Phillip, a third Panama chance fell to Edgar Barcenas. Phillip managed to get a hand to the close-range effort, but could not prevent Panama from doubling their tally.
Head Coach Dennis Lawrence introduced Joevin Jones in the second half as T&T tried to get themselves back into the game. Jones’ delivery from the left caused problems in the box for Panama but they then broke away leading to the second goal. Kevin Molino came close late on but couldn’t get the final touch right as Luis Mejia raced off his line to stop the effort. Next up on Saturday, T&T will face United States which got past Guyana 4-0 in Tuesday’s second match.
Lawrence said after the match that T&T paid the price by conceding two goals due to lapses.
“I didn’t feel it was much in the game. The two critical moments in the game – Our effort, we gave the ball and we got caught and the second one us is almost scoring and then getting done in transition,”Lawrence said in the post-game press conference.
“So two soft goals to give away. We have dug ourselves in a bit of a hole now which means we have to start thinking about getting two wins from the next two games. That’s international football. If you don’t take your chances and you give away sloppy possession you can get hurt. Panama has got quality players that can do that to you. We now need to recover very quickly. Pull away from all the negatives and go onto to the next game.”
Teams
Trinidad and Tobago: 1.Marvin Phillip (GK); 16.Alvin Jones, 2.Aubrey David, 5.Daneil Cyrus, 17.Mekeil Williams; 19.Kevan George (23.Leston Paul 65′), 8.Khaleem Hyland (captain); 10.Kevin Molino, 20.Jomal Williams (3.Joevin Jones 65′); 11.Levi Garcia,13.Nathan Lewis (7.Cordell Cato 82′),
Subs not used – 21.Greg Ranjitsingh (GK), 22.Adrian Foncette (GK), 4.Neveal Hackshaw, 6.Duane Muckette, 9.Shahdon Winchester, 12.Carlyle Mitchell, 14.Akeem Humphrey, 15.Curtis Gonzales, 18.Lester Peltier.
Head coach: Dennis Lawrence
Panama (4-4-2): 1.Luis Mejia (GK); 23.Michael Murillo, 3.Harold Cummings, 5.Roman Torres (captain), 15.Eric Davis, 4.Fidel Escobar, 19.Albert Quintero (21.Omar Browne 88′), 10.Edgar Barcenas, 11.Armando Cooper, 17.Jose Fajardo (20.Ernesto Walker 78′), 9.Gabriel Torres (18.Abdiel Arroyo 84′);
Unused substitutes: 12.Jose Calderon (GK), 22.Orlando Mosquera (GK), 2.Francisco Palacios, 6.Kevin Galvan, 7.Jose Rodriguez, 8.Marcos Sanchez, 13.Adolfo Machado, 14.Valentin Pimentel, 16.Rolando Blackburn.
Head coach: Julio Valdes
Post Match Press Conference - Lawrence speaks after Panama loss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WBrg7ZJwug)
Panama (2) vs. Trinidad and Tobago (0) - Gold Cup 2019 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt5z78W_r0o)
Standings
P W D L F A Pts
USA 1 1 0 0 4 0 3
Panama 1 1 0 0 2 0 3
T&T 1 0 0 1 0 2 0
Guyana 1 0 0 1 0 4 0
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Panama outplays Soca Warriors 2-0.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).
Two second-half goals by Armando Cooper in the 52nd and Edgar Barcenas in the 68th minute for Panama, confined T&T to its first defeat 2-0 in Group D of the CONCACAF Gold Cup in the United States on Tuesday night.
The result now means that the Soca Warriors will have to get a result each when they face the host in their second match on Saturday, and then four days later when they take on regional rivals Guyana.
Despite a quick start by the T&T team at the Allianz Field in Minnesota, USA, in the early moments, the result appeared to have been only a matter of time, once the Panamanians settled and dominated the match.
Nathan Lewis twice in the first half used his speed to telling effect down the right flank, but on both occasions his attempt to pick out Jomal Williams was broken down by the quick intervention of defender Fidel Escobar. Soon after, Levi Garcia, on one of his sweeping runs at the Panama defence, tried to thread one to Lewis, but it was again intercepted by the steady defence. Panama's inability to hit the target prevented any chance they had of taking the advantage at the half and the teams went to the break with the scores at 0-0.
However, at the resumption the Panamanians quickly picked up from where they left off and were rewarded for their possession.
Cooper found himself at the end of another neat build-up inside the T&T penalty area and despite the challenge by skipper Khaleem Hyland, Cooper raced past the advancing TT goalie Marvin Phillips, before slotting the ball into an empty goal for the lead.
Moments later, the Panamanians were unlucky not to score again in the 61st minute from another sweeping build-up that saw Gabriel Torres release to an unmarked Escobar. But Escobar's thumping shot from some 20 yards out was pushed wide by Philips.
T&T, who were bogged down by the midfielders' inability to be creative in the centre, coupled with the defenders' reluctance to supply the passes when they were in possession of the ball, created little goal-scoring opportunities.
Still, Garcia had the Panama defence backing when he cut in from the left side on to his unfavourable right foot, before hitting high over the bars.
But the Panamanians later sealed the win despite the brilliance of Philips. Torres, who was picked out unmarked on the left side, eluded his marker and released a thunderous right-footer that Philips somehow dived low to keep out. He then kept out a blistering drive from Cooper on the rebound, but could not stop Barcenas from putting the ball into an open net before the reaction of any T&T defender.
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Some of y'all ah little to rough..y'all does TALK ah damn good game doh..Not saying the team was not bad, but to say the boys played total garbage is just not true. Lawrence has to work with what he sees and has, and the players have to work with what they have and get..I feel many ah y'all should be players and coaches, cause y'all real know this game from in front the tv.
Anyway I also have criticism and a suggestion(might be totally wrong and probably not worth anything), 4, 1 depth/width space1 ,2 width space, 1 depth space,1 is not a proper formation for full field...
G
CB
CB
RB LB
DM Space DM
RM Space Space LM
Space F
Space F Space
might be good for half field practice, as the spaces won't seem that big..What I don't understand doh, is we played big field warm-up games , it must have been evident in our lack of numbers on attack and opposing midfield attacks on our defence. The 2 wingers have to come back on possession to get the ball from wingbacks and sometimes to assit in coverage, otherwise the defensive mids have to much ground to cover, leaving our whole defensive players overwhelmed and late, whenever a team attacks with numbers. Of Course the guys would have to play better, but I saw what they tried to do and not do, and Panama was having none of it. They attacked the spaces and killed us on adjustments with numbers, and defended with numbers..For me, it's their mids that had us in a mess..our mids was trying to cover to much ground...to repeat, IMO, we need our wingers to come in and back more and our central mids to be not as defensive, or play 1 defensive mid.
Good luck next game guys. Go T&T.
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That defending... Damn...
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What coach in this world will just allow his team to play this type of unproductive, unattractive football?
At least go out fighting and take risks, play attacking football, if its not sabotage, its just a poor coaching choice..
We had so many other choices much better after Hart was fired by the dictator and they choose the worse one that is controlled and in the house.. smh
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WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago's 2-0 loss to Panama
https://www.youtube.com/v/Tt5z78W_r0o
Rare that you see highlights that only show the kick-off from the 1st half and nothing else of interest from that half. Telling?
" Criminal defending" ... Quote, unquote is that what the commentator said? Wow.
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One thing for sure D. Lawrence has been found wanting as he doesn't know the difference between strategy and tactics.
Yuh go leave it like that?
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Lemme take some positives yes (a la Dreamer): I like how Cyrus play. He step up. Alvin Jones might be faulted with that 1st goal (he wasn't even in the frame), and he gave up a lot of errant passes, but I get the feeling that if he settle into this level of play he will become a better player. Levi I thought had a decent game compared to his games in the past. He got the freedom to express himself, and he took on players, but the system he playing in nobody up top with him as a foil so he can't do it on his own, but I hope he continues to settle and grow. I always like Nathan Lewis' shift, to me he does be all over the pitch. Joevin show he have the confidence at this level, but to me it look like no strategy to utilize his talents in place (or no clear instructions on his role) -- still good crosses - but no forwards on the other end; he dribbles nice in the middle too, but I dunno.
okay daiz it. I would love to see Dennis Lawrence post match interview b/c it never look to me like there is a well thought-on plan on how to score. Just 10 men behind the ball all the time.
what game you watched mate? the names you mentioned were the biggest impediments all game long. Someone needs to tell Garcia and Lewis that they are not pele and instead of beatsing their way into a wall of players since the hex and losing the ball on every attempt, they need to realize that passing the ball and making runs in the box yields better results.
As for Cyrus, that boy needs to grow bunions on his ass from sitting on the bench. he had no clue what to do with the ball tonight and often logs the ball up field for a turn overand, he’s at best an emergency option. IMO dennis got it way wrong tonight. there’s no way you play molino as a striker he’s more effective playing from behind. Curtis gonzales and mikiel Williams should have started in the center with Cyrus on the bench. Oh well panama did it to us again.
I disagree with some of this. If you have one or two forwards and everybody else in their own half, I don't think what you talking about could ever possibly happen. There was one time Levi end up on the right side near the corner flag after he used his speed to break forward, he was isolated shielding off and eluding 3-4 Panamanians for a good 10-15 seconds till Cyrus eventually run up to provide an outlet.
I am no Cyrus fan, but what you talking about is a CB bringing the ball forward under pressure (like Hector for Jam down, who plays for chelsea?) and making a nice pass forward. I don't think Trini ever had a CB that could do that. (Under Leo that was one of Dwight's main jobs).
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WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago's 2-0 loss to Panama
https://www.youtube.com/v/Tt5z78W_r0o
shameful bloody performance. look how Cyrus escorted the attacker instead of putting a body on him or putting in a tackle giving him the opportunity to shoot at the keep the ball watched while the goal scorer got two shots, what a disgusting display,ay of football. I guess the draw with Japan went to their heads.
I think angles and highlights can be deceiving. Cyrus was coming from the left to cover for the missing man on the right (Alvin Jones) and got there late. The highlights pick up at the end of play. To me what is shameful is Dennis post-match comments. He took no blame/responsibility for the toots that went on structurally, and even though I going to the USA game, I really could only see lix on we horizon...or a completely parked bus 0-0. shameful.
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Lemme take some positives yes (a la Dreamer): I like how Cyrus play. He step up. Alvin Jones might be faulted with that 1st goal (he wasn't even in the frame), and he gave up a lot of errant passes, but I get the feeling that if he settle into this level of play he will become a better player. Levi I thought had a decent game compared to his games in the past. He got the freedom to express himself, and he took on players, but the system he playing in nobody up top with him as a foil so he can't do it on his own, but I hope he continues to settle and grow. I always like Nathan Lewis' shift, to me he does be all over the pitch. Joevin show he have the confidence at this level, but to me it look like no strategy to utilize his talents in place (or no clear instructions on his role) -- still good crosses - but no forwards on the other end; he dribbles nice in the middle too, but I dunno.
okay daiz it. I would love to see Dennis Lawrence post match interview b/c it never look to me like there is a well thought-on plan on how to score. Just 10 men behind the ball all the time.
what game you watched mate? the names you mentioned were the biggest impediments all game long. Someone needs to tell Garcia and Lewis that they are not pele and instead of beatsing their way into a wall of players since the hex and losing the ball on every attempt, they need to realize that passing the ball and making runs in the box yields better results.
As for Cyrus, that boy needs to grow bunions on his ass from sitting on the bench. he had no clue what to do with the ball tonight and often logs the ball up field for a turn overand, he’s at best an emergency option. IMO dennis got it way wrong tonight. there’s no way you play molino as a striker he’s more effective playing from behind. Curtis gonzales and mikiel Williams should have started in the center with Cyrus on the bench. Oh well panama did it to us again.
I disagree with some of this. If you have one or two forwards and everybody else in their own half, I don't think what you talking about could ever possibly happen. There was one time Levi end up on the right side near the corner flag after he used his speed to break forward, he was isolated shielding off and eluding 3-4 Panamanians for a good 10-15 seconds till Cyrus eventually run up to provide an outlet.
I am no Cyrus fan, but what you talking about is a CB bringing the ball forward under pressure (like Hector for Jam down, who plays for chelsea?) and making a nice pass forward. I don't think Trini ever had a CB that could do that. (Under Leo that was one of Dwight's main jobs).
hello we played with no foward Levi is a winger .
Winchester is the only striker there.
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I just looked at DL post match interview. No disrespect to him as a person but is he delusional ? Was he watching the same game ? This team looks dismal, no cohesion, lack of confidence and clueless going forward. Time for DL to move on, this is the worst I've seen this team look in donkey years..Ridiculous..Grow some balls and understand that your slow defensive style of football does not work :frustrated:
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The team had no idea how to mount a productive attack to finish with a shot on goal. Lawrence stood on the sideline looking dumbfounded and clueless WTF!. We need to play 4-4-2 ;
WINCHESTER LEVI
JONES HYLAND MOLINO CATO/LEWIS
WILLIAMS DAVID CYRUS JONES
Levi would be deadly coming in with his left foot from the right side
By the way what happen to Bateu
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This is all wishful thinking of course. If the players not up to the task no formation would make a difference, US would crush us plain and simple
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Barring injuries, barring visa issues, barring other obstacles ... the back four would likely have been Hodge, Bateau, Cyrus and David. Only one of those players played in his likely assigned role.
Discuss.
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This is all wishful thinking of course. If the players not up to the task no formation would make a difference, US would crush us plain and simple
It's not that the players are not up to the task. If we look at the starting XI, we didn't play an inexperienced squad at this level of competition. There are items that need to be reinforced that do seem to not have been emphasized.
It's also a bit baffling that there is a central defender as boss and a heralded forward as an assistant coach and we are seeing the ball being distributed in ways that neither one of them would prefer as a player on the field.
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I just looked at DL post match interview. No disrespect to him as a person but is he delusional ? Was he watching the same game ? This team looks dismal, no cohesion, lack of confidence and clueless going forward. Time for DL to move on, this is the worst I've seen this team look in donkey years..Ridiculous..Grow some balls and understand that your slow defensive style of football does not work :frustrated:
I agree that the post-match comments seem not to have absorbed the entire picture. The match was more than just about two critical moments. The goals were about two critical moments but the match turned on much more than merely the goals. Yuh takeaway hadda be more than the goals. What about the body of work?
https://www.youtube.com/v/azmKEjSQfGA
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Seeker, on another note. Did Panama fire the previous coach? The one who coached them at the WC.
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Seeker, on another note. Did Panama fire the previous coach? The one who coached them at the WC.
He left voluntarily.
P.S. And now he's being accused of having a lack of ideas after Uruguay smashed Ecuador 4-0.
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hello we played with no foward Levi is a winger .
Winchester is the only striker there.
So, if you put Cyrus to play in central midfield, he's not a CM ... on the day?
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Seeker, on another note. Did Panama fire the previous coach? The one who coached them at the WC.
He left voluntarily.
P.S. And now he's being accused of having a lack of ideas after Uruguay smashed Ecuador 4-0.
Now he's coaching in the big leagues and playing against the big boys. That Uruguay squad is no joke though!
If Ecuador fires him, we may know of a potential destination lol
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WATCH: Khaleem Hyland post-match comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Lp5Q-Xb78
WATCH: Kevin Molino post-match comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpYEWzpweeg
WATCH: Levi Garcia post-match comments
https://www.youtube.com/v/_EbA8C4dzSA
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Where's pullstones, i thought he said tallest had a better record and doing better than Hart :D
https://linktr.ee/ginomckoy (https://linktr.ee/ginomckoy)
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How much chance Dennis go get, Hart was fired long time.
Dennis might be a nice guy, but I find he have Sarri ways, stubborn and one way.
He play very flat and predictable football.
Lewis shoulda be first to be sub out.
David better as a wing back, center back he is not good.
We using important games to try players.
Joevin needed to start.
Garcia is not Hazard, Garcia is not a false 9.
Why did he pick forwards when he doh play them.
Did our game improve since Lawrence took over as coach.
We give away the ball after two passes.
We have not even one shot on goal.
Panama was very beatable, he play so much shit they build confidence on us.
Molino shoulda been sub early to.
We have to beat USA now, or we out, when Panama woulda be a easier route.
That was terrible football yesterday.
Even though Guyana lose 4-0 to USA, they play like they had a plan, they just wasn't good even for the USA and they didn't had the players.
We in big trouble
We have no under 23 football team and they are the future.
We done.
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Go dey Sam!!!!
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At least seven playing assignments on the field need to be reconsidered. Under another analysis, maybe as many as nine.
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How much chance Dennis go get, Hart was fired long time.
Dennis might be a nice guy, but I find he have Sarri ways, stubborn and one way.
He play very flat and predictable football.
Lewis shoulda be first to be sub out.
David better as a wing back, center back he is not good.
We using important games to try players.
Joevin needed to start.
Garcia is not Hazard, Garcia is not a false 9.
Why did he pick forwards when he doh play them.
Did our game improve since Lawrence took over as coach.
We give away the ball after two passes.
How much chance Dennis go get, Hart was fired long time.
Dennis might be a nice guy, but I find he have Sarri ways, stubborn and one way.
He play very flat and predictable football.
Lewis shoulda be first to be sub out.
David better as a wing back, center back he is not good.
We using important games to try players.
Joevin needed to start.
Garcia is not Hazard, Garcia is not a false 9.
Why did he pick forwards when he doh play them.
Did our game improve since Lawrence took over as coach.
We give away the ball after two passes.
We have not even one shot on goal.
Panama was very beatable, he play so much shit they build confidence on us.
Molino shoulda been sub early to.
We have to beat USA now, or we out, when Panama woulda be a easier route.
That was terrible football yesterday.
Even though Guyana lose 4-0 to USA, they play like they had a plan, they just wasn't good even for the USA and they didn't had the players.
We in big trouble
We have no under 23 football team and they are the future.
We done.
Panama was very beatable, he play so much shit they build confidence on us.
Molino shoulda been sub early to.
We have to beat USA now, or we out, when Panama woulda be a easier route.
That was terrible football yesterday.
Even though Guyana lose 4-0 to USA, they play like they had a plan, they just wasn't good even for the USA and they didn't had the players.
We in big trouble
We have no under 23 football team and they are the future.
We done.
Amen Brother! When coach come up in front a camera and ent talk about opposing keeper making ZERO saves, I know he not coming straight with us fans. I support the team still but as soon as the federation sort things out (after elections?) I want him to go.
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Some of y'all ah little to rough..y'all does TALK ah damn good game doh..Not saying the team was not bad, but to say the boys played total garbage is just not true. Lawrence has to work with what he sees and has, and the players have to work with what they have and get..I feel many ah y'all should be players and coaches, cause y'all real know this game from in front the tv.
Anyway I also have criticism and a suggestion(might be totally wrong and probably not worth anything), 4, 1 depth/width space1 ,2 width space, 1 depth space,1 is not a proper formation for full field...
G
CB
CB
RB LB
DM Space DM
RM Space Space LM
Space F
Space F Space
might be good for half field practice, as the spaces won't seem that big..What I don't understand doh, is we played big field warm-up games , it must have been evident in our lack of numbers on attack and opposing midfield attacks on our defence. The 2 wingers have to come back on possession to get the ball from wingbacks and sometimes to assit in coverage, otherwise the defensive mids have to much ground to cover, leaving our whole defensive players overwhelmed and late, whenever a team attacks with numbers. Of Course the guys would have to play better, but I saw what they tried to do and not do, and Panama was having none of it. They attacked the spaces and killed us on adjustments with numbers, and defended with numbers..For me, it's their mids that had us in a mess..our mids was trying to cover to much ground...to repeat, IMO, we need our wingers to come in and back more and our central mids to be not as defensive, or play 1 defensive mid.
Good luck next game guys. Go T&T.
If Lawrence has to work with what he sees and what he has and this is what he comes up with, he needs glasses cause vision surely lacking. He have been playing around with these ingredients for how long now and still can't cook a bess pot. If you have ingredients for curry, yuh cyah try to make pelau. Unless you ah mad chef. Lawrence must see that he doesn't have (or choose) the players to play the way he maybe want to play.
Forget all that. We had no urgency at no point in the game. Our approach was one of "meh". We never tried to win the game. This game was a very confusing game.
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So what’s on your menu elan ? “Chicken Surprise”...surprise no chicken? What you seeing that Lawrence not seeing ? Tell him the recipe for success, if he blind, he might be able to hear. We hope. ???
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Hyland: We have what it takes to rebound.
By Nigel Simon (Guardian).
Soca Warriors captain Khaleem Hyland says he believes his team has what it takes to rebound from its 2-0 loss to Panama in their 2019 CONCACAF Gold Cup Pool B match at Allianz Field, Minnesota on Tuesday night.
The defeat left T&T joint bottom of the four-team pool with Guyana, which suffered a 4-0 drubbing against the USA in Tuesday's second match.
Up next for T&T is a clash with the USA on Saturday in Cleveland before facing Guyana next Wednesday in Kansas.
Speaking after the loss to Panama, the 30-year-old Hyland who plays for Saudi Arabian club, Al Faisaly said: "Its always a difficult game against Panama. We know Panama is a good team as they hold back and wait on the counter-attack."
"We had a good start, but just you know simple mistakes cost us and I would take the blame for the first goal, but you know its a team effort and we will keep on going until the last game."
Looking ahead to his team's next match Hyland said, "We focus now on the next game which is America and hopefully we can do things and change things around."
"At this level when you don't score, you will always get chances against you, so it's very difficult to don't score and expect the other teams to don't score also."
"So you have to have some luck on your side which we didn't have today, but as we say, we will go back to the drawing board, work hard and hope we can tidy up our mistakes and come out for the next game against America.
Asked he felt T&T had what it takes to get the positive results in its next two matches, Hyland replied, "For sure we have what it takes to rebound. I believe in all the guys and the staff, we have been working hard and we just have to continue to work hard and hopefully, we can be successful at the end.
"We just need to improve on our own mistakes. We give away too many easy passes which simply we could do better because it cost us the game."
Midfielder Kevin Molino, 29, of US Major League Soccer's Minnesota United said it was a tough one to lose.
He added, "I think we fought hard and certain periods of the game we could have done better, all of us were sloppy.
"We have to rebound, and go back to the drawing board and work hard, and keep the fight."
"I wanted three points, unfortunately, I didn't get it, but I'm happy to be here and playing and the fan support was great."
"Overall, we did get the three points we wanted, we now have to stay focus and look forward to the next match."
Looking ahead to the USA match on Saturday, Molino said, "We just need to get a good result and make sure and don't lose the game, and I believe we have what it takes in the locker room to win the game."
Molino noted the Americans will be coming to win the match against T&T as well to make amends for the defeat during the last World Cup qualifiers, which dashed their qualifications hopes and handed Panama a World Cup spot.
"They will be coming with an extra drive, but also us because we want to win the game and qualify for the next rounds.
"For us most importantly it's not about the last result, but for us right now here and trying to go forward in this tournament."
Winger, Levi Garcia, 21, of Ironi Kiryat Shmona in Israel said it was a disappointing result.
"The team fought hard, so we have to recuperate, continue training and we still have two games in hand that can bring us six points. It was a good start to the game for us, we were full of confidence and we were doing well. The chances we didn't take them and we were a bit sloppy in the attacking third. Both goals came from simple mistakes."
"But we are all at fault as a team, and as I would say, we slept a little bit and we paid for it.
Looking ahead to the rest of the tournament, Garcia said, "I totally believe in the team, and anticipates the guys coming back in training, working even harder and getting the six points that we need."
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Lawrence: We paid the price for defensive lapses.
By Nigel Simon (Guardian).
Soca Warriors coach, Dennis Lawrence said his team paid the price by conceding two goals due to defensive lapses in their CONCACAF Gold Cup Pool B opener, 2-0 loss to Panama at the Allianz Field, Minnesota on Tuesday night.
Second-half goals from Armano Cooper in the 52nd and Edgar Barcenas in the 68th earn the Central Americans three points and ended a nine-match winless streak since their World Cup campaign, and the team's first win in 14 matches dating back to April 17, last year.
Speaking after the loss on Tuesady night, Lawrence was quick to state he felt the match itself was close.
He said, "I didn’t feel it was much in the game. The two critical moments came when we gave the ball away, and we got caught, and the second one was we almost scored. So two soft goals we give away. We have dug ourselves in a bit of a hole now which means we have to start thinking about getting two wins from the next two games."
He continued, "That’s international football. If you don’t take your chances and you give away possession you can get hurt. Panama has quality players that can do that to you, so we now need to recover very quickly. Pull away from all the negatives and go onto the next game.”
Commenting on the first-half display of winger Nathan Lewis, who played on the right flank, Lawrence, a former national World Cup defender said, "As I said before, to me there was nothing much in the game, and I actually think in the first half we had probably the better of the chances. We got in better situations without putting the ball in the back of the net, and Nathan, unfortunately, got a bit tired coming down to the end of the half, which I think is because of the lack of game time with his club (he plays for Lansing Ignite), and is something that we need to try and work on between now and then."
He explained, "Kevin has obviously been out for a while, but when it comes to playing in his home stadium, I think it would have been foolish of us not to try and take advantage of that situation, and he did relatively well. I think with the way Panama played, particularly in the first half, with Escobar (Fidel) playing more of a sitting in, it helped him (Molino) because he was able to play and stay with him, and then when we got possession, he was able to play off of him."
Up next for the T&T is a must-win clash with host USA on Saturday, at First Energy Stadium, Cleveland, Ohio from 8 pm before Guyana match four days later at Children's Mercy Park, Kansas City, Kansas on June 26, from 6.30pm.
The Americans sit at the top of the four-team pool after blanking Guyana 4-0 in Tuesday's second match at the Allianz Field.
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T&T sports media lack the substance when asking our athletes questions. Ask Hyland what he think about his own performance. Ask the coach why he think the team has struggled to score a single goal in their last six or seven international matches. When you ask these questions you will have follow up questions based on the answers given. I would love to know more about what are DL expectations from the eleven men he is putting out in the field and the media has to force him to be accountable to the nation as we are supporting the team
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That was a good beating we take. Was always going to be difficult if Panama scored first and we allowed them to control the game. Players lack movement off the ball. It's clear we cant break down defenses, our only hope is to get in behind but then we have no tall players to convert headers. This team is a mess. We don't belong in this Gold Cup. I'm sorry to say this but it's true, lackluster, no rhythm. Just rubbish boring football. Dennis and his team has to go, this is bad. JA, Haiti and Guyana look light years ahead of us, USA going to drop atleast 5 on we tonite. AND, if this wasn't enough, there is no building for the future. This team is trying though and I do wish them luck, they gonna need it later today. I'll accept a 2-0 loss. This is the reality of our football.
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So what’s on your menu elan ? “Chicken Surprise”...surprise no chicken? What you seeing that Lawrence not seeing ? Tell him the recipe for success, if he blind, he might be able to hear. We hope. ???
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Chicken surprise or surprise chicken :rotfl:
I would make a cook-up with them ingredients cause is a little bit of everything. The main thing I would have ensure the pot have is some Moruga scorpion. Panama would have it hot going in and coming out. Instead we end up with a bland stale gyro.
Long-term. This is beyond a TTMNT coach. We need grassroots development to develop the ingredients for the pot we want to bubble at the senior level.
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So what’s on your menu elan ? “Chicken Surprise”...surprise no chicken? What you seeing that Lawrence not seeing ? Tell him the recipe for success, if he blind, he might be able to hear. We hope. ???
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Chicken surprise or surprise chicken :rotfl:
I would make a cook-up with them ingredients cause is a little bit of everything. The main thing I would have ensure the pot have is some Moruga scorpion. Panama would have it hot going in and coming out. Instead we end up with a bland stale gyro.
Long-term. This is beyond a TTMNT coach. We need grassroots development to develop the ingredients for the pot we want to bubble at the senior level.
Ahhh...so why be dumping blame on Lawrence (or the current players)...He don't have men like Yorke, Latapy, Stern, Shaka, a young KJ, Dog, guys who played in one of the top leagues and further other seasoned veterans who take licks like Carlos, Cornell, himself, Sancho, Samuel from 2nd tier..then a birchall,Avery, Cyd, bleeder, Whitley workhorses who played in MLS... we have a few fellas trying a ting...our top players (just 2, i think) in MLS,... the rest trying to make a living..I think they doing quite well considering, but y'all tend to underestimate teams like Panama et al...cvause y'all don't know nothing bout them..i.e. them just like we, however most their players are individually rated in arguablly similar or better clubs.. The match was always gonna be tough for our boys.. Besides the fact that our to known top guys, not in particularly top form..so i thought going in we were underdogs, in spite of our history.. The coach and the players will do the best they can, but we should try to understand or face up to what is presently our best...and they probably trying their best, nobody going out their to look bad...Go T&T
Not giving up, is all I can ask..just my opinion..
It will take us awhile to achieve again, with all the greatness, history and Cultural backing, even the top teams in our region does ketch they ass, so why not we.. Mexico win this cup 7 times, USA 6, i think, Canada once, not much others...we always ketch hell to get by first round, so what ppl always expecting to see, I dunno.. Because of 1 or 2 good individuals, ppl make believe we is a top team in the region...we is just and has always been an average team with good days and bad days, even with our greatest players...we could only hope for more good days than bad..but to believe if we hire the best and pick the best, we could go out and beat anybody in our region anyday and everyday is just delusional .... Wish, Hope or Cuss however much we want.
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Point taken Maxg. I think it's more a criticism of the lack of purpose, came across like a poor man's catenaccio, no sense of startegy in attack, midfielders rarely dropping to collect from the defense and create link up play. When the opposition had the ball limited press, seemed like Dennis went out to try to hold Panama 0-0 and play on a very slow counter. Yes, we don't have world beaters like in the past, household names, but in Molino, Joevin, Nathan, and Levi w/box to box support from Hyland and Kevan, should have enough to compete.
The lack of purpose and lethargic approach is what gets me, incredibly uninspiring. Truth be told, Panama was only marginally better, wonder what could have been if we had some purpose
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but y'all tend to underestimate teams like Panama et al...cvause y'all don't know nothing bout them.
Honestly, maxg. Out of the last 5 outings against Panama we lost 4. So how we does underestimate a team that beat we 4 out of 5. The basic fact is, this team lack creative and attacking talent. They don't have it at the moment. They just don't have it. Now they probable put on a performance of a lifetime like they did at Couva or Corva as the Yanks does called it. I honestly don't know which TT team will show up.
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but y'all tend to underestimate teams like Panama et al...cvause y'all don't know nothing bout them.
Honestly, maxg. Out of the last 5 outings against Panama we lost 4. So how we does underestimate a team that beat we 4 out of 5. The basic fact is, this team lack creative and attacking talent. They don't have it at the moment. They just don't have it. Now they probable put on a performance of a lifetime like they did at Couva or Corva as the Yanks does called it. I honestly don't know which TT team will show up.
deeks til pullisic USA didn' have no recognized creative force cept maybe landon and found a way to win "pass and move with speed, physicality and most importantly THOUGHTFULNESS" my point is they found a way, we have seen trini teams progress the ball with urgency in d past, now men misplacing 3 yard pass normel normel and quite gallingly, DOH THINK.......some SERIOUS and intense and varied rondo sessions might be remedial in dat regard. simply being able to collect dat ball cleanly and move it on quickly and thoughtfully could make such a drastic improvement to dis team.....is 2019 and we still producing defenders dat cyah do nutten useful with a ball at dey feet and I include phillips in dat........Ranjitsingh can distribute accurately into midfield and he may not be gold with his feet but he has vision to launch attacks with his throws, apart from shot blockin what phillips have? dennis play with him ah him some.....steup....ah coach dat know what dey doing CAN patch sumting together with these fellas.........I really thought dat Lawrence given his years away would have been clued into how to get a team operating even given the fact of what he has to work with, but sadly, like all our exports dat come back to coach he has been underwhelming, thus leaving me again to ponder what d hell he learn while out dey ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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but y'all tend to underestimate teams like Panama et al...cvause y'all don't know nothing bout them.
Honestly, maxg. Out of the last 5 outings against Panama we lost 4. So how we does underestimate a team that beat we 4 out of 5. The basic fact is, this team lack creative and attacking talent. They don't have it at the moment. They just don't have it. Now they probable put on a performance of a lifetime like they did at Couva or Corva as the Yanks does called it. I honestly don't know which TT team will show up.
deeks til pullisic USA didn' have no recognized creative force cept maybe landon and found a way to win "pass and move with speed, physicality and most importantly THOUGHTFULNESS" my point is they found a way, we have seen trini teams progress the ball with urgency in d past, now men misplacing 3 yard pass normel normel and quite gallingly, DOH THINK.......some SERIOUS and intense and varied rondo sessions might be remedial in dat regard. simply being able to collect dat ball cleanly and move it on quickly and thoughtfully could make such a drastic improvement to dis team.....is 2019 and we still producing defenders dat cyah do nutten useful with a ball at dey feet and I include phillips in dat........Ranjitsingh can distribute accurately into midfield and he may not be gold with his feet but he has vision to launch attacks with his throws, apart from shot blockin what phillips have? dennis play with him ah him some.....steup....ah coach dat know what dey doing CAN patch sumting together with these fellas.........I really thought dat Lawrence given his years away would have been clued into how to get a team operating even given the fact of what he has to work with, but sadly, like all our exports dat come back to coach he has been underwhelming, thus leaving me again to ponder what d hell he learn while out dey ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
I would not disagree with some of your points. Yes, Phillips can be wanting at times and Greg needs to play. But our problem has been and continue to be the PAUCITY of creative players. Especially in the middle of the field. At this level of football none of them inspires me or at least give me hope for our football. Defensively we so-so. We can hold our own for the first 45 to 60 mins. After that, we just lose it. We lack concentration, we bad passing, we .. we .. we just not there.
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But deeks my point is dat creation need not be the job of a single individual d stereotypical 10 being driven into extinction as we speak, if we fix some simple things namely touch, passing, movement and composure....(if your cyah think straight under pressure yuh wasting time in football these days) we can improve and create as a unit
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but y'all tend to underestimate teams like Panama et al...cvause y'all don't know nothing bout them.
Honestly, maxg. Out of the last 5 outings against Panama we lost 4. So how we does underestimate a team that beat we 4 out of 5. The basic fact is, this team lack creative and attacking talent. They don't have it at the moment. They just don't have it. Now they probable put on a performance of a lifetime like they did at Couva or Corva as the Yanks does called it. I honestly don't know which TT team will show up.
Don't think the team underestimates, our knowledgeable fans seems to doh
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The problem is DL is doing the same thing SH did and he failed and DL is failing to TT should not be playing any English football TT need to hire a real professional coach and stop hiring these over rated Trinis.
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The problem is DL is doing the same thing SH did and he failed and DL is failing to TT should not be playing any English football TT need to hire a real professional coach and stop hiring these over rated Trinis.
Any suggestions as to who available ?
Matter of fact here's a list that might be to your liking
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik
We go pay them in Mangoes ? ooor if every Trini give up 1 doubles a day, we might be able to pay them
doubles.. ::) :banginghead:
my bad..btw Tman, all who we owing still ?
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But deeks my point is dat creation need not be the job of a single individual d stereotypical 10 being driven into extinction as we speak, if we fix some simple things namely touch, passing, movement and composure....(if your cyah think straight under pressure yuh wasting time in football these days) we can improve and create as a unit
Agree that creativity is/ought not be the responsibility of one player, but you at least need one player to impose challenges rather than orthodoxy.
Also, in our football it can't necessarily be the 10 because the 10 rarely gets the ball. 100% Barataria mentioned "purpose". When you see purpose-filled teams one of their traits often is that of having an identified ball handler(s) who get the ball and get it often or assume positions that suggest to the defending players that they are intended recipients of the ball. Our approach is all animals are equal and that is simply not football reality because it's not a constructive approach. Beyond that, we need creativity before we arrive in the final third, not upon arrival in the final third. Or we need quicker, intentional circulation of the ball that is circulation accompanied by penetration, not just circulation.
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I've watched Panama on TV. I've watched Panama in Panama. I've watched Panama outside of Panama and I've watched Panama in Trinidad and Tobago. They are not light years ahead of us. Although (too much) deference can easily place them in another galaxy, if we keep this up we will find that they are firmly in another universe. Our mentality is part of the problem.
A similar perceived malady is threatening on the women's side of the game as between both teams. T&T's women are superior to Panama in every facet of the game. Yet, we lost to them. But wait four years and see if time has stood still in Panama City.
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my bad..btw Tman, all who we owing still ?
Too much to mention, plus more judgements to come.
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But deeks my point is dat creation need not be the job of a single individual d stereotypical 10 being driven into extinction as we speak, if we fix some simple things namely touch, passing, movement and composure....(if your cyah think straight under pressure yuh wasting time in football these days) we can improve and create as a unit
Agree that creativity is/ought not be the responsibility of one player, but you at least need one player to impose challenges rather than orthodoxy.
Also, in our football it can't necessarily be the 10 because the 10 rarely gets the ball. 100% Barataria mentioned "purpose". When you see purpose-filled teams one of their traits often is that of having an identified ball handler(s) who get the ball and get it often or assume positions that suggest to the defending players that they are intended recipients of the ball. Our approach is all animals are equal and that is simply not football reality because it's not a constructive approach. Beyond that, we need creativity before we arrive in the final third, not upon arrival in the final third. quicker, intentional circulation of the ball that is circulation accompanied by penetration, not just circulation.
I agree with all this but I still think we operate (for now) without an out and out creative outlet playerwise, but with the creative use of space i.e. positioning and movement to achieve specific goals. A fine example of this is how man city front 5 tends to operate; the wingers stretch the pitch by hogging touchline to create room for d 2 CAMs, Aguero similar attempts to occupy space between d opposite CB and FB partly to distract but mostly because his late diagonal runs mostly leaves at least defender blindsided or dragged off to make room for d CAM or late running opposite winger.
Now man city is man city chuck full ah talent, we aint dem, but notwithstanding d sum ah d parts.. d PLAN and EXECUTION is what does facilitate d success...creatin and using space cleverly is ah function of d unit.
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Seeker, on another note. Did Panama fire the previous coach? The one who coached them at the WC.
He left voluntarily.
P.S. And now he's being accused of having a lack of ideas after Uruguay smashed Ecuador 4-0.
Now he's coaching in the big leagues and playing against the big boys. That Uruguay squad is no joke though!
If Ecuador fires him, we may know of a potential destination lol
He was relieved of his job yesterday by mutual agreement.
He was fired but both parties have agreed terms that would prevent sending the farewell to litigation or arbitration.
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Seeker, on another note. Did Panama fire the previous coach? The one who coached them at the WC.
He left voluntarily.
P.S. And now he's being accused of having a lack of ideas after Uruguay smashed Ecuador 4-0.
Now he's coaching in the big leagues and playing against the big boys. That Uruguay squad is no joke though!
If Ecuador fires him, we may know of a potential destination lol
He was relieved of his job yesterday by mutual agreement.
He was fired but both parties have agreed terms that would prevent sending the farewell to litigation or arbitration.
That's the life in the profession. Maybe he punched above his weight? I'll give him credit for the job he did with Panama though.
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Seeker, on another note. Did Panama fire the previous coach? The one who coached them at the WC.
He left voluntarily.
P.S. And now he's being accused of having a lack of ideas after Uruguay smashed Ecuador 4-0.
Now he's coaching in the big leagues and playing against the big boys. That Uruguay squad is no joke though!
If Ecuador fires him, we may know of a potential destination lol
He was relieved of his job yesterday by mutual agreement.
He was fired but both parties have agreed terms that would prevent sending the farewell to litigation or arbitration.
That's the life in the profession. Maybe he punched above his weight? I'll give him credit for the job he did with Panama though.
Since our friendly there in 2017, this is their third coaching change. Gustavo Quinteros who was coaching them at that time, was fired with only two games left in WC qualifying. The decision to fire him did not bring the silver bullet. Sounds familiar?
As far as Gomez's dismissal goes, he may have taken the job for sentimental reasons (he is the coach that qualified them for the 2002 WC). He's been with the big boys before. Some people think the game is moving past him.
There is talk about modernizing Ecuador's in-house affairs and Gomez in 2018+ may not have been the best fit for the giant leap forward. But, if you look at the coaches they have chosen, it's not easy to discern a pattern in the decision-making as to what preferences are valued (they have also changed federation presidents). However, if you look at the players they have at their disposal, finding their right boss shouldn't be hard on paper but is tough in terms of who they can court and attract. Historically, it's been a job that attracts Colombian coaches or locals. They either need to look further afield or to a commanding internal figure.