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Title: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Flex on May 22, 2019, 12:29:34 AM
As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on the T&T vs Honduras CON­CA­CAF Na­tions League games on the 10th of October (home) and the 17th of November 2019 (away) will be posted here, this way, we can maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.

For the internet users, you can follow the game at:

To be updated.

Possible Online Streams.

To be updated.

Possible TV Station.

To be updated.

Trinidad & Tobago Squad

Goalkeepers:

Marvin Phillip (NEROCA FC - India), Adrian Foncette (Police FC - T&T), Glenroy Samuel (La Horquetta Rangers - T&T).

Defenders:

Daneil Cyrus (Mohun Bagan - India), Sheldon Bateau (KV Mechelen - Belgium), Aubrey David (Deportivo Saprissa - Costa Rica), Mekeil Williams (Oklahoma City Energy FC - USA), Alvin Jones (Oklahoma City Energy FC - USA), Carlyle Mitchell (San Juan Jabloteh - T&T), Keston Julien (AS Trenčín - Slovakia), Ross Russell Jr. (La Horquetta Rangers - T&T).

Midfielders:

Kevin Molino (Minnesota United - USA), Khaleem Hyland (Al Faisaly - Saudi Arabia), Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders FC - USA), Jomal Williams (AD Isidro Metapán - Honduras), Levi Garcia (Beitar Jerusalem FC - Israel), Leston Paul (Memphis 901 FC - USA), Nathaniel Garcia (Gokulam Kerala FC - India), Judah Garcia (Point Fortin Civic FC - T&T), Kevan George (Charlotte Independence - USA), Neveal Hackshaw (Indy Eleven - USA), Andre Fortune (North Carolina FC - USA), Aikim Andrews (La Horquetta Rangers - T&T), Aaron Lester (Defence Force - T&T).

Forwards:

Ryan Telfer (York9 FC - Canada), Akeem Garcia (Halifax Wanderers - Canada), Daniel Carr (Apollon Limassol - Cyprus), Marcus Joseph (Gokulam Kerala FC - India).

Coach - Dennis Lawrence (TRI).

Honduras Squad

Goalkeepers

To be updated.

Defenders

To be updated.

Midfielders

To be updated.

Forwards

To be updated.

Coach - Fabián Coito (URU).


Updates to follow as we get more info, so keep checking back.

Title: Thread for T&T vs Honduras (10-Oct-2019)
Post by: Tallman on September 17, 2019, 12:34:54 PM
As usual, any updates/scores, shout-outs, reports, predictions, views, etc, on the T&T vs Honduras game on the 10th of October 2019 at the Hasely Crawford Stadium will be posted here, this way, we can maintain the message board and not make it look too scrappy with un-necessary or related headlines and postings on game day.

For the internet users, you can follow the game at:

To be updated.

Possible Online Streams.

To be updated.

Possible TV Station.

To be updated.

Trinidad & Tobago Squad

Goalkeepers:

To be updated.

Defenders:

To be updated.

Midfielders:

To be updated.

Forwards:

To be updated.

Coach - Dennis Lawrence (TRI).

Mexico Squad

Goalkeepers

To be updated.

Defenders

To be updated.

Midfielders

To be updated.

Forwards

To be updated.

Coach - Fabián Coito.


Updates to follow as we get more info, so keep checking back.

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: andre samuel on September 26, 2019, 09:01:38 AM
Which of these games will be played in TT?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on September 26, 2019, 09:10:04 AM
Which of these games will be played in TT?

The 10/10 date.

P.S. Foreign-based Hondurans will start trickling in individually from the 6th, so if anybody looking fuh ah autograph or to facilitate ah Venezuelan distraction ...
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Flex on October 03, 2019, 05:07:00 PM
Focus shifts to Honduras following Mexico affair in Toluca.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s team return home later on Thursday following Wednesday night’s 2-0 defeat to Mexico in Toluca as both teams used the exercise for preparations ahead of upcoming competitions.

T&T head coach Dennis Lawrence will take his squad into residential camp on October 7th for the CONCACAF Nations League fixture with Honduras which takes place on Thursday October 10th at the Hasely Crawford Stadium on a 7:00pm kick off.

Lawrence spoke after Wednesday’s affair in Toluca, describing the exercise as a monumental task against the confederation’s top ranked nation.

“It was very difficult for the boys to come to Toluca and play against what I see as not just the number one team in CONCACAF but a world phenomenal football nation regardless of who was on the pitch on the night,” Lawrence told TTFA Media. “I was later genuinely proud of the players for the way they approached the game, showing commitment and dedication in such conditions and environment. Now we head back home and go into camp on the 7th where I’ll have availability of all the boys from abroad and home to prepare for the next match against Honduras.

“I felt in the first half we gave them too much respect by playing too deep and not getting close enough to put pressure on the ball and the biggest crime we were committing was giving away the ball too easily everytime we got possession of it

“In the second half we managed to get on the ball a bit better. We didn’t cause Mexico major problems in attach but we managed to keep our shape and discipline for longer periods and i was pleased with the group for the effort in that regards,” he continued.

“I was pleased with players like Cyrus who only got off the plane late on Tuesday from flight from Dubai and I know he made an error in the game which cost us but he showed a lot of dedication to keep going. We had a couple home-based players who showed that they definitely want to be part of the team for the next couple games and that was pleasing. For the group on a whole it was an experience they will definitely take in good stride going forward.

Lawrence summed it up by saying, “These boys faced a mammoth task and they stuck in and showed some real determination to go down 2-0 and then come back and manage the game in the second half and restrict them. The game gave us a good opportunity to have players like Nathan Lewis on the pitch after he hadn’t played a full 90 minutes since the US game (Gold Cup) and there was was Aikim Andrews, Jameel Perry and Judah Garcia who had an opportunity to get minutes in this type of situation. It was good to see these players in this kind of environment.”

Lawrence is expected back in Trinidad on the weekend having remained in Toluca with player Nion Lammy who had to be hospitalised for treatment after falling ill  during training on Tuesday. “There was a situation where Nion Lammy had to be taken to hospital and kept for observations after he encountered some difficulty during the latter part of the training session on Tuesday which meant he was not available for the match. We are hopeful he will be cleared to be released on Friday and we will both travel home on Saturday,” Lawrence said.

Stats

Goals:  México: José Juan Macías 22’  nd Ricardo Angulo  30’.

Trinidad and  Tobago: 1.- M. Phillip; 5.- D. Cyrus; 9.- C. Thomas (16.- K. Adriel al 46’) (10.- J. García al 75’); 12.- C. Mitchell; 13.- A. Andrews; 14.- D. James (6.- C. González al 79’); 15.- J. Perry (3.- I. García al 64’); 17.- R. Russell; 19.- D. Muckette; 23.- L. Paul y 27.- N. Lewis (8.- L. Aaron al 46’).

Head Coach – D. Lawrence

México: 1.- R. Gudiño; 22.-A. Mozo; 14.- I. Govea; 6.- J. Angulo (24.- J. Vásquez al 62’); 3.- C. Calderón (4.- G. Arteaga al 46’); 11.- I. Rodríguez; 17.- S. Córdova (15.- F. Venegas al 73’); 18.- E. Aguirre; 5.- P. Yrizar (8.- J. González al 62’); 10.- J. Macías (9.- J. Godínez al 73’) y 20.- R. Angulo (7.- J. Torres al 46’).

Head Coach – G. Martino.

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 03, 2019, 11:52:46 PM
Focus shifts to Honduras following Mexico affair in Toluca.
TTFA Media.


Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s team return home later on Thursday following Wednesday night’s 2-0 defeat to Mexico in Toluca as both teams used the exercise for preparations ahead of upcoming competitions.

T&T head coach Dennis Lawrence will take his squad into residential camp on October 7th for the CONCACAF Nations League fixture with Honduras which takes place on Thursday October 10th at the Hasely Crawford Stadium on a 7:00pm kick off.

Lawrence spoke after Wednesday’s affair in Toluca, describing the exercise as a monumental task against the confederation’s top ranked nation.

“It was very difficult for the boys to come to Toluca and play against what I see as not just the number one team in CONCACAF but a world phenomenal football nation regardless of who was on the pitch on the night,” Lawrence told TTFA Media. “I was later genuinely proud of the players for the way they approached the game, showing commitment and dedication in such conditions and environment. Now we head back home and go into camp on the 7th where I’ll have availability of all the boys from abroad and home to prepare for the next match against Honduras.

“I felt in the first half we gave them too much respect by playing too deep and not getting close enough to put pressure on the ball and the biggest crime we were committing was giving away the ball too easily everytime we got possession of it

“In the second half we managed to get on the ball a bit better. We didn’t cause Mexico major problems in attach but we managed to keep our shape and discipline for longer periods and i was pleased with the group for the effort in that regards,” he continued.

“I was pleased with players like Cyrus who only got off the plane late on Tuesday from flight from Dubai and I know he made an error in the game which cost us but he showed a lot of dedication to keep going. We had a couple home-based players who showed that they definitely want to be part of the team for the next couple games and that was pleasing. For the group on a whole it was an experience they will definitely take in good stride going forward.

Lawrence summed it up by saying, “These boys faced a mammoth task and they stuck in and showed some real determination to go down 2-0 and then come back and manage the game in the second half and restrict them. The game gave us a good opportunity to have players like Nathan Lewis on the pitch after he hadn’t played a full 90 minutes since the US game (Gold Cup) and there was was Aikim Andrews, Jameel Perry and Judah Garcia who had an opportunity to get minutes in this type of situation. It was good to see these players in this kind of environment.”

Lawrence is expected back in Trinidad on the weekend having remained in Toluca with player Nion Lammy who had to be hospitalised for treatment after falling ill  during training on Tuesday. “There was a situation where Nion Lammy had to be taken to hospital and kept for observations after he encountered some difficulty during the latter part of the training session on Tuesday which meant he was not available for the match. We are hopeful he will be cleared to be released on Friday and we will both travel home on Saturday,” Lawrence said.

Stats

Goals:  México: José Juan Macías 22’  nd Ricardo Angulo  30’.

Trinidad and  Tobago: 1.- M. Phillip; 5.- D. Cyrus; 9.- C. Thomas (16.- K. Adriel al 46’) (10.- J. García al 75’); 12.- C. Mitchell; 13.- A. Andrews; 14.- D. James (6.- C. González al 79’); 15.- J. Perry (3.- I. García al 64’); 17.- R. Russell; 19.- D. Muckette; 23.- L. Paul y 27.- N. Lewis (8.- L. Aaron al 46’).

Head Coach – D. Lawrence

México: 1.- R. Gudiño; 22.-A. Mozo; 14.- I. Govea; 6.- J. Angulo (24.- J. Vásquez al 62’); 3.- C. Calderón (4.- G. Arteaga al 46’); 11.- I. Rodríguez; 17.- S. Córdova (15.- F. Venegas al 73’); 18.- E. Aguirre; 5.- P. Yrizar (8.- J. González al 62’); 10.- J. Macías (9.- J. Godínez al 73’) y 20.- R. Angulo (7.- J. Torres al 46’).

Head Coach – G. Martino.
not to harp on cyrus but listen to this slacker of a coach praising cyrus for giving away the ball in midfield which lead to the first goal. in big leagues around the world cyrus would’ve been relatgated to the bench until the coach was satisfied that his point was well taken.

that idiot gave away the ball in the middle of the pitch and could not retrieved it even with all the speed he posses, just goes to show what an unintelligent piss poor defender he truly i is, and would never improve  beyond what he has developed into, that’s because 90% of these TT players don’t perfect their game on their own time, but instead run the town and live the life of a celebrity while forsaking their craft, real near sighted folks with no direction.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 04, 2019, 07:32:43 PM
Call ups: Jomal Williams, Akeem Garcia and Joevin Jones.

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on October 04, 2019, 11:31:27 PM
pull stones, some of us know you and a lot of forumites doh like Cyrus and Marvin at all. So it doh matter if the play well or not, it still will not satisfy allyuh. I wish Greg could have played. I wish we could have groomed another stopper.  For whatever reason Cyrus and Marvin are the options for DL. But despite the error, Cyrus was fighting the best he can, seeing that he reached the day before the game from India.

And DL never praised him for giving away the ball. You swear is only Cyrus and Marvin played the game. What about the rest of the players.  If the game had ended 0-0, it still does not change the fact that the rest of the team did not perform well at all. All our mids doing is sideways backwards, sideways backwards. What do you expect the defense to do. They under pressure for 80% of the game.

Our mids and forwards just don't have it at this time. How long Leston playing for the national team? What does he bring to the team for all that time he is there ?  Dwayne James? Is he convincing  to you ? We just don't have it at this time. And believe you me, I just as frustrated.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 05, 2019, 12:16:50 AM
deeks why are you and others making excuses for players who constantly under perform and struggle on the pitch? i can’t remember when marvin and cyrus had a productive game especially since lawrence was in charge, never mind when other coaches was in charge, these guys struggled under hart, Hudson Charles,the German bloke oto fister and latapy, so where do we draw the line?

 it’s not a matter of who else bummed and how poor a midfield we have presently, even when we had solid midfielders who supported the defense these guys showed their class and lack of quality

watching kenwin as a newly minted premier league player i would be frustrated to sit week in and out watching mc shane bring down sunderland. this man would be behind most of the conceded goals with his silly shenanigans, miss kicking, bad tackles, miss timed balls, poor back passes until Roy keane decided to send him on loan and acquired better players on the defense.

can you imagine cyrus playing in any serious league? this is one of the reasons these guys play in goat leagues around the world. thailand, vietnam, i league, this man couldn’t even stay in saudi arabia an elementary poor quality league. never mind the Phillips guy, that boy never landed any contract outside of the pro league until recently and that at a time when players were going all over the world.

there’s no secret why most of our players are journey men roaming around the globe on short stints with no respecting league willing enough to put any stock in them. these lads are neglectful of their profession and knowing that they are capable of much more if they’re willing to put in the applicable work makes it all the more frustrating. so i say to france with them all, i will never support mediocrity. if you want to play international ball you better put up shut up or walk away. don’t expect me to be graceful because i will never support mediocrity.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on October 05, 2019, 03:06:03 AM
Not making excuses. Like I said these guys are not ready. They just don't have what it takes to reach the next level. I said so as plain as day. But you keep harping on Cyrus and Marvin. It is your right not to support mediocrity. And our players and team are both mediocre. At this point our entire football is mediocre. I will continue to give support to the football because I was the system as a youth player. But hopefully by things will change with the coming TTFA elections.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 05, 2019, 12:15:35 PM
Not making excuses. Like I said these guys are not ready. They just don't have what it takes to reach the next level. I said so as plain as day. But you keep harping on Cyrus and Marvin. It is your right not to support mediocrity. And our players and team are both mediocre. At this point our entire football is mediocre. I will continue to give support to the football because I was the system as a youth player. But hopefully by things will change with the coming TTFA elections.
deeks don’t be fooled, it’s not that we aren’t ready. we beat Panama at home in the hex then we went to Costa Rica and gave a good account of ourselves even though we loss 2-1, we went to mexico and took them to the wire and beat the USA kicking them out the world cup, so we are ready with the right people in charge.

when sol campbell was in the mix we played with purpose and structure, but when him and the other english white bloke left for greener pastures the team simply fell apart leaving dennis winless. now I know for a fact that sol was in charge of picking that defense as well as keeping their structure, dennis probably did all the rest but if you noticed cyrus and phillip never featured in sol’s plans, instead it was Curtis gonzales and foncette, then dennis went and changed a winning formula. serves him right.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on October 05, 2019, 11:04:04 PM
Not making excuses. Like I said these guys are not ready. They just don't have what it takes to reach the next level. I said so as plain as day. But you keep harping on Cyrus and Marvin. It is your right not to support mediocrity. And our players and team are both mediocre. At this point our entire football is mediocre. I will continue to give support to the football because I was the system as a youth player. But hopefully by things will change with the coming TTFA elections.
deeks don’t be fooled, it’s not that we aren’t ready. we beat Panama at home in the hex then we went to Costa Rica and gave a good account of ourselves even though we loss 2-1, we went to mexico and took them to the wire and beat the USA kicking them out the world cup, so we are ready with the right people in charge.

when sol campbell was in the mix we played with purpose and structure, but when him and the other english white bloke left for greener pastures the team simply fell apart leaving dennis winless. now I know for a fact that sol was in charge of picking that defense as well as keeping their structure, dennis probably did all the rest but if you noticed cyrus and phillip never featured in sol’s plans, instead it was Curtis gonzales and foncette, then dennis went and changed a winning formula. serves him right.

I can't argue with that. But as long as DJW is there, DL will be there. I was not expecting Sol to stay unless we had a chance of qualifying. It is a pity he could not have stayed for the GC.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini _2022 on October 07, 2019, 11:12:18 AM
how come we always have to wait on our roster .  all the time .. Let me start naming it then
GK   Marvin Phillps (fuh sure)
Defenders Daniel Cyrus (fuh sure)
Midfield Leston Paul (fuh sure ) Akeem Garica, Jomal Williams ( club released info )
Strikers.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Thomo on October 07, 2019, 12:33:24 PM
6 foot 5 inches, 24 year old traditional English centre back who isn't afraid to get his teeth stuck in, is just the type of player we need for this game. And he has a TNT passport...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9868961/crystal-palace-star-ryan-inniss-bite-west-ham-player/
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 07, 2019, 12:38:25 PM
6 foot 5 inches, 24 year old traditional English centre back who isn't afraid to get his teeth stuck in, is just the type of player we need for this game. And he has a TNT passport...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9868961/crystal-palace-star-ryan-inniss-bite-west-ham-player/

Keep plugging away Thomo, maybe somebody at the TTFA will bite.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: andre samuel on October 07, 2019, 12:40:56 PM
So today is the 7th and the game is on the 10th...........but our squad aint announced as yet?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini _2022 on October 07, 2019, 01:09:51 PM
6 foot 5 inches, 24 year old traditional English centre back who isn't afraid to get his teeth stuck in, is just the type of player we need for this game. And he has a TNT passport...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9868961/crystal-palace-star-ryan-inniss-bite-west-ham-player/

 it is comfirmed he is comming for this game ?.... i see DL talking with birchall .... this is what DL should have been doing from the start after the we got knocked out of the  2018 worldcup look at everyone. bring competion to the team ..... REBUILD ...However  the same old same old he used for 2 years now he realized that competitions is needed....
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: AZZURRI on October 07, 2019, 01:24:17 PM
6 foot 5 inches, 24 year old traditional English centre back who isn't afraid to get his teeth stuck in, is just the type of player we need for this game. And he has a TNT passport...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9868961/crystal-palace-star-ryan-inniss-bite-west-ham-player/

 it is comfirmed he is comming for this game .... i see DL talking with birchall .... this is what DL should have been doing from the start after the we got knocked out of the  2018 worldcup look at everyone. bring competion to the team ..... REBUILD ...However  the same old same old he used for 2 years now he realized that competitions is needed....


As in he's in the squad???

media doesnt have a list of the training squad at least?
when they naming it?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Thomo on October 07, 2019, 02:14:21 PM
6 foot 5 inches, 24 year old traditional English centre back who isn't afraid to get his teeth stuck in, is just the type of player we need for this game. And he has a TNT passport...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9868961/crystal-palace-star-ryan-inniss-bite-west-ham-player/

Keep plugging away Thomo, maybe somebody at the TTFA will bite.
Hehehe hopefully he's got the call up, lawd knows we need defenders of his type. An agressive beast to deal with them Hondurans. Plus we're extremely poor at defending set plays. De man 6'5 so that should help
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: soccerman on October 07, 2019, 02:39:14 PM
6 foot 5 inches, 24 year old traditional English centre back who isn't afraid to get his teeth stuck in, is just the type of player we need for this game. And he has a TNT passport...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9868961/crystal-palace-star-ryan-inniss-bite-west-ham-player/

Keep plugging away Thomo, maybe somebody at the TTFA will bite.
Hehehe hopefully he's got the call up, lawd knows we need defenders of his type. An agressive beast to deal with them Hondurans. Plus we're extremely poor at defending set plays. De man 6'5 so that should help
Hopefully we're looking there and at Nottingham Forrest. Use Birchall, use Dwight, use Carlos, use Lara, use Duchess Meghan, Edris or Boy George. Anyone who can help DL recruit in the UK should be considered. All hands on deck!
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Sando prince on October 07, 2019, 02:54:28 PM
Fellas something to heat up the thread and get ready for the game   :beermug:

https://www.facebook.com/SocaTv/videos/2440420342837967/?epa=SEARCH_BOX  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 07, 2019, 03:18:48 PM
(https://d3h7g948tee6ho.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/honduras-a-trinidad-2019.jpg)
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 07, 2019, 03:25:11 PM
Which of these games will be played in TT?

The 10/10 date.

P.S. Foreign-based Hondurans will start trickling in individually from the 6th, so if anybody looking fuh ah autograph or to facilitate ah Venezuelan distraction ...

These players are the ones who will fly in, or have flown in, separately from most of the squad: Henry Figueroa and Alexander López (Alajuelense, Costa Rica), Maynor Figueroa (Houston Dynamo), Luis Garrido (Córdoba, España),  Alberth Elis (Houston Dynamo), Douglas Martínez (Real Salt Lake) and Bryan Róchez (Nacional, Portugal).

The rest of the team will likely arrive on COPA. According to Flight Tracker they would have touched down about 1 hour ago.

The good news is that by having separated the group in this way, they haven't had a training session together yet. Coach decided against the usual protocol of meeting at home then flying out together.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 07, 2019, 07:56:48 PM
So today is the 7th and the game is on the 10th...........but our squad aint announced as yet?

For de Mexico game, when did they release de roster? A day before.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 07, 2019, 07:58:07 PM
WATCH: Can we get maximum points?

https://www.youtube.com/v/eP0C41RbKhI
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 07, 2019, 08:16:40 PM
ON THIS DAY (October 7th 2001): Against all odds, Trinidad and Tobago defeated Honduras 1-0 in Honduras courtesy a sublime left-footed strike by Stern John. Despite mourning the passing of Mickey Trotman six days earlier, playing with 10-men from the 20th minute, and being under constant pressure from the marauding Honduran forward line, who hit the goalpost no less than seven times, the Soca Warriors were able to come out unlikely victors. This is considered to be a dark day in Honduran football, because all they had to do was beat us by any margin, and they would have qualified for the 2002 World Cup in Japan/South Korea. They subsequently fell 3-0 to Mexico at the Azteca which ended their World Cup dreams.

https://www.youtube.com/v/RshHxyG2Kfo?start=160
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 07, 2019, 11:39:52 PM
WATCH: Can we get maximum points?

https://www.youtube.com/v/eP0C41RbKhI
nigel are you related to “nappy Mayer’s” by chance?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on October 08, 2019, 03:42:49 AM
6 foot 5 inches, 24 year old traditional English centre back who isn't afraid to get his teeth stuck in, is just the type of player we need for this game. And he has a TNT passport...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9868961/crystal-palace-star-ryan-inniss-bite-west-ham-player/

Keep plugging away Thomo, maybe somebody at the TTFA will bite.
Hehehe hopefully he's got the call up, lawd knows we need defenders of his type. An agressive beast to deal with them Hondurans. Plus we're extremely poor at defending set plays. De man 6'5 so that should help
Hopefully we're looking there and at Nottingham Forrest. Use Birchall, use Dwight, use Carlos, use Lara, use Duchess Meghan, Edris or Boy George. Anyone who can help DL recruit in the UK should be considered. All hands on deck!

We need aggressive defenders but please, no Suarez bites. We have enough issues to deal with. But again, if we don't find good offensive and defensive mid fielders, we eh going no whey.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 08, 2019, 05:12:19 AM
WATCH: Can we get maximum points?

https://www.youtube.com/v/eP0C41RbKhI
nigel are you related to “nappy Mayer’s” by chance?

Nah. Last named spelled differently.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Flex on October 08, 2019, 06:13:44 AM
Some of the Honduran players called-up are; Jonathan Rubio Toro (C.D. Tondela/Portugal), Rigoberto Rivas (Reggina/Italy), Bryan Moya (Zulia/Venezuela), Alberth Elis (Houston Dynamo/USA), Maynor Figueroa (Houston Dynamo/USA), Michael Chirinos (Vancouver Whitecaps FC/Canada), Alexander Lopez (Alajuelense/Costa Rica), Rubilio Castillo (Tondela/Portugal), Bryan Acosta (FC Dallas/USA), Luis Garrido (Córdoba/Spain), Denil Maldonado (Motagua/Honduras).

Last 3 games.

Honduras 2 v Chile 1
Honduras 4 v Puerto Rico 0
Honduras 4 v El Salvador 0

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 08, 2019, 09:42:07 AM
Honduras Squad

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFucFiBXoAcXH8m?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 08, 2019, 10:43:28 AM
ON THIS DAY (October 7th 2001): Against all odds, Trinidad and Tobago defeated Honduras 1-0 in Honduras courtesy a sublime left-footed strike by Stern John. Despite mourning the passing of Mickey Trotman six days earlier, playing with 10-men from the 20th minute, and being under constant pressure from the marauding Honduran forward line, who hit the goalpost no less than seven times, the Soca Warriors were able to come out unlikely victors. This is considered to be a dark day in Honduran football, because all they had to do was beat us by any margin, and they would have qualified for the 2002 World Cup in Japan/South Korea. They subsequently fell 3-0 to Mexico at the Azteca which ended their World Cup dreams.

https://www.youtube.com/v/RshHxyG2Kfo?start=160

After they hit the post over and over again the match commentator bawl: ¡Hay una maldición en el estadio! Hay una maldición! Hay una maldición!  :rotfl:  :rotfl: :rotfl:

Basically saying that someone or something put a curse on them.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 08, 2019, 11:02:45 AM
It’s the 8th and no squad listed yet, are they punnishing the nation because we reject DJW and his jokey coach dennis lawrence?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 08, 2019, 11:11:33 AM
ON THIS DAY (October 7th 2001): Against all odds, Trinidad and Tobago defeated Honduras 1-0 in Honduras courtesy a sublime left-footed strike by Stern John. Despite mourning the passing of Mickey Trotman six days earlier, playing with 10-men from the 20th minute, and being under constant pressure from the marauding Honduran forward line, who hit the goalpost no less than seven times, the Soca Warriors were able to come out unlikely victors. This is considered to be a dark day in Honduran football, because all they had to do was beat us by any margin, and they would have qualified for the 2002 World Cup in Japan/South Korea. They subsequently fell 3-0 to Mexico at the Azteca which ended their World Cup dreams.

https://www.youtube.com/v/RshHxyG2Kfo?start=160

After they hit the post over and over again the match commentator bawl: ¡Hay una maldición en el estadio! Hay una maldición! Hay una maldición!  :rotfl:  :rotfl: :rotfl:

Basically saying that someone or something piut a course on them.
nothing much has changed from those days, we still have clueless defenders like elcock who had a lot of issues and from the highlights where he struggles to clear balls efficiently. our midfielders could hardly hold on to possession but we had one thing going for us, capable attackers in dwarika, latapy and our very own drogba stern the wonder kid John.

 we will never have another raving mad angry forward on the pitch who has to score or he could never live with himself. boy do i miss stern John.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini _2022 on October 08, 2019, 11:51:29 AM
THE GAME IN 2 DAYS ..... Still no squad list eh omg what is the BIG  secret ................................. THEY COULD TREAT FANS .... LIKE CRAP!!!  yet they want people to come out  and support
Title: Trinidad and Tobago target three points versus Honduras
Post by: Tallman on October 08, 2019, 12:36:01 PM
Trinidad and Tobago target three points versus Honduras
TTFA Media


Both the Trinidad and Tobago and Honduras Senior Men Teams assembled in Port of Spain on Monday evening ahead of Thursday’s CONCACAF Nations League qualifier at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, scheduled for a 7:00pm kick off.

T&T head coach Dennis Lawrence conducted his first training session at the match venue on Monday evening with the majority of his players involved while another five were scheduled to join the camp later in the day or early Tuesday.

The Honduras contingent started arriving on Sunday evening with the rest of the squad coming on on Monday night.

Both head coaches will address the media on Wednesday at the Hasely Crawford Stadium before their official pre-game training sessions.

Canadian-based forward Ryan Telfer was among those on the training pitch on Monday alongside fellow Canadian-based pro Akeem Garcia who has earned his first senior team call up under Lawrence. Both players were anticipating Thursday’s affair in which T&T will be searching maximum points.

“Everyone’s been coming into camp and things are looking good so far. Come Thursday we’ll be ready to go. We know how important this game is and we also know that we dropped some points against Martinique. We had three points in the bag and somehow it turned into one. We are facd now with the task of beating Honduras and the mentality is do or die because we need to get three points,” Telfer told TTFA Media.

The mindset is the killer instinct from what I’ve seen with this guys. It’s a mindset of coming into practice everyday and do what is necessary and go into the game, get our hands dirty and do whatever is necessary to get the job done.”

Garcia meantime has been enjoying a solid season with Halifax Wanderers in the Canadian Premier League and he appears focused on pitching in to try and lead the Red,White and Black to a win.

“I just want to try and take it to the next level. I’ve got the opportunity to be with the national team. I still have to fight and make it in the final squad but i’ll be working hard and hoping for the best. Once called upon I will try my best to get the goals.

We know Honduras is a tough team but we have to be ready for the game. My form is good at the moment with three goals in the last five games so I am really eager to try and take this form into the national team. I am familiar with some of the guys in the team which will make the transition hopefully a bit easier.

“It’s just like in Halifax where the Trini connection has made it a bit easier for me to feel comfortable and to play my game, hopefully we can have that same chemistry and togetherness with the national team and go onto get good results in the upcoming games,” Garcia added.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini _2022 on October 08, 2019, 12:40:21 PM
Trinidad and Tobago target three points versus Honduras
TTFA Media


Both the Trinidad and Tobago and Honduras Senior Men Teams assembled in Port of Spain on Monday evening ahead of Thursday’s CONCACAF Nations League qualifier at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, scheduled for a 7:00pm kick off.

T&T head coach Dennis Lawrence conducted his first training session at the match venue on Monday evening with the majority of his players involved while another five were scheduled to join the camp later in the day or early Tuesday.

The Honduras contingent started arriving on Sunday evening with the rest of the squad coming on on Monday night.

Both head coaches will address the media on Wednesday at the Hasely Crawford Stadium before their official pre-game training sessions.

Canadian-based forward Ryan Telfer was among those on the training pitch on Monday alongside fellow Canadian-based pro Akeem Garcia who has earned his first senior team call up under Lawrence. Both players were anticipating Thursday’s affair in which T&T will be searching maximum points.

“Everyone’s been coming into camp and things are looking good so far. Come Thursday we’ll be ready to go. We know how important this game is and we also know that we dropped some points against Martinique. We had three points in the bag and somehow it turned into one. We are facd now with the task of beating Honduras and the mentality is do or die because we need to get three points,” Telfer told TTFA Media.

The mindset is the killer instinct from what I’ve seen with this guys. It’s a mindset of coming into practice everyday and do what is necessary and go into the game, get our hands dirty and do whatever is necessary to get the job done.”

Garcia meantime has been enjoying a solid season with Halifax Wanderers in the Canadian Premier League and he appears focused on pitching in to try and lead the Red,White and Black to a win.

“I just want to try and take it to the next level. I’ve got the opportunity to be with the national team. I still have to fight and make it in the final squad but i’ll be working hard and hoping for the best. Once called upon I will try my best to get the goals.

We know Honduras is a tough team but we have to be ready for the game. My form is good at the moment with three goals in the last five games so I am really eager to try and take this form into the national team. I am familiar with some of the guys in the team which will make the transition hopefully a bit easier.

“It’s just like in Halifax where the Trini connection has made it a bit easier for me to feel comfortable and to play my game, hopefully we can have that same chemistry and togetherness with the national team and go onto get good results in the upcoming games,” Garcia added.

still no sqaud list
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 08, 2019, 01:11:24 PM
Based on articles and images over the last few days, this is what I have gathered so far:

Goalkeepers:
Marvin Phillip (NEROCA FC - India), Adrian Foncette (Police FC - T&T)

Defenders:
Daneil Cyrus (Mohun Bagan - India), Aubrey David (Deportivo Saprissa - Costa Rica), Alvin Jones (Oklahoma City Energy FC - USA), Carlyle Mitchell (San Juan Jabloteh - T&T), Ross Russell Jr. (La Horquetta Rangers - T&T)

Midfielders:
Kevin Molino (Minnesota United - USA), Khaleem Hyland (Al Faisaly - Saudi Arabia), Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders FC - USA), Jomal Williams (AD Isidro Metapán - Honduras), Kevan George (Charlotte Independence - USA), Neveal Hackshaw (Indy Eleven - USA), Dre Fortune (North Carolina FC - USA), Aikim Andrews (La Horquetta Rangers - T&T)

Forwards:
Ryan Telfer (York9 FC - Canada), Akeem Garcia (Halifax Wanderers - Canada)
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 08, 2019, 01:29:15 PM
(https://d3h7g948tee6ho.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/honduras-gimnascio-en-trinidad.jpg)

Photo of the Honduras national team in match preparation for the first leg. This is what they did this morning. They will be outdoors this afternoon.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 08, 2019, 01:43:02 PM
The last arriving players better be young Rivelinos because there's otherwise not much inspiring by more of the same.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini _2022 on October 08, 2019, 01:48:24 PM
Based on articles and images over the last few days, this is what I have gathered so far:

Goalkeepers:
Marvin Phillip (NEROCA FC - India), Adrian Foncette (Police FC - T&T)

Defenders:
Daneil Cyrus (Mohun Bagan - India), Aubrey David (Deportivo Saprissa - Costa Rica), Alvin Jones (Oklahoma City Energy FC - USA), Carlyle Mitchell (San Juan Jabloteh - T&T), Ross Russell Jr. (La Horquetta Rangers - T&T)

Midfielders:
Kevin Molino (Minnesota United - USA), Khaleem Hyland (Al Faisaly - Saudi Arabia), Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders FC - USA), Jomal Williams (AD Isidro Metapán - Honduras), Kevan George (Charlotte Independence - USA), Neveal Hackshaw (Indy Eleven - USA), Dre Fortune (North Carolina FC - USA), Aikim Andrews (La Horquetta Rangers - T&T)

Forwards:
Ryan Telfer (York9 FC - Canada), Akeem Garcia (Halifax Wanderers - Canada)
 
No Dan Carr eh and I thought he was recruiting a few new players.....this crop of players i doubt can beat honduras
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 08, 2019, 02:05:01 PM
Carr hasn't been getting much of a sweat in Cyprus. Not that that should matter under the present logic, but he might have been sacrificed. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 08, 2019, 02:08:16 PM
Bateau?

Guerra?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Fyzoman on October 08, 2019, 02:08:56 PM
I had to come here to hunt down we squad. Thanks Tallman for the tentative squad. I have nothing else to say anymore...well other than I hope the coach tell effin Cyrus that he’s not friggin Lucio and to just hand off the people ball to his effin midfielders or wing backs quickly! Hoping for the best?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 08, 2019, 02:10:58 PM
I had to come here to hunt down we squad. Thanks Tallman for the tentative squad. I have nothing else to say anymore...well other than I hope the coach tell effin Cyrus that he’s not friggin Lucio and to just hand off the people ball to his effin midfielders or wing backs quickly! Hoping for the best?

 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini _2022 on October 08, 2019, 02:31:53 PM
Bateau?

Guerra?

Keston Julien ? he is hitting form .... ross russel better than him ?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 08, 2019, 04:31:50 PM
WATCH: Ryan Telfer and Akeem Garcia look ahead to the Concacaf Nations League game against Honduras

https://www.youtube.com/v/5KXHDhrfcVM
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 08, 2019, 04:58:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/q-60wudRlMw
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 08, 2019, 04:59:50 PM
Carr hasn't been getting much of a sweat in Cyprus. Not that that should matter under the present logic, but he might have been sacrificed. Time will tell.

Carr is there.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 08, 2019, 05:00:29 PM
Bateau?

Guerra?

I see Bateau in the video, and someone who looks like Guerra, but not sure.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 08, 2019, 05:01:19 PM
No Dan Carr eh and I thought he was recruiting a few new players.....this crop of players i doubt can beat honduras

You can see Carr in the Telfer and Garcia vid.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 08, 2019, 05:08:29 PM
Carr hasn't been getting much of a sweat in Cyprus. Not that that should matter under the present logic, but he might have been sacrificed. Time will tell.

Carr is there.

Check
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 08, 2019, 05:09:30 PM
Bateau?

Guerra?

I see Bateau in the video, and someone who looks like Guerra, but not sure.

Bateau .
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 08, 2019, 07:07:21 PM
Updated after watching the training video.

Goalkeepers:
Marvin Phillip (NEROCA FC - India), Adrian Foncette (Police FC - T&T)

Defenders:
Daneil Cyrus (Mohun Bagan - India), Sheldon Bateau (KV Mechelen - Belgium), Aubrey David (Deportivo Saprissa - Costa Rica), Alvin Jones (Oklahoma City Energy FC - USA), Carlyle Mitchell (San Juan Jabloteh - T&T), Ross Russell Jr. (La Horquetta Rangers - T&T)

Midfielders:
Kevin Molino (Minnesota United - USA), Khaleem Hyland (Al Faisaly - Saudi Arabia), Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders FC - USA), Jomal Williams (AD Isidro Metapán - Honduras), Levi Garcia (Beitar Jerusalem FC - Israel), Nathaniel Garcia (Gokulam Kerala FC - India), Judah Garcia (Point Fortin Civic FC - T&T), Kevan George (Charlotte Independence - USA), Neveal Hackshaw (Indy Eleven - USA), Dre Fortune (North Carolina FC - USA), Aikim Andrews (La Horquetta Rangers - T&T)

Forwards:
Ryan Telfer (York9 FC - Canada), Akeem Garcia (Halifax Wanderers - Canada), Daniel Carr (Apollon Limassol - Cyprus), Marcus Joseph (Gokulam Kerala FC - India)
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 08, 2019, 11:43:35 PM
I just watching tricks and waiting patiently because I know as soon as DJW lose this election (which I’m sure he would ousted), we will definitely get a better coach than lawrence, and I could only hope that they keep all local coaches ala stern John Shabbat and staurt charles revere away from the new coach let him pick his team his way. can’t wait to see the back of marvin phillip and danial cyrus.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: madness on October 08, 2019, 11:49:51 PM
I think they will tie the game.  They must focus on time management on the field when they have possession of the ball. when I look at the previous match when Trinidad has beaten Honduras, they were very poor in keeping the ball and not able to create chances at goal. I know DL focus on the defensive. Trinidad struggles on their attacking part of the game. I know they have individual talent but not match quality. Match Quality is the ability to understand the level of the game in which keeping ball away from their opponents.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: madness on October 09, 2019, 12:01:39 AM
@pull stones: I don't know about getting a new coach because TTFA will not pay them well. :rotfl:
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 09, 2019, 01:21:08 AM
@pull stones: I don't know about getting a new coach because TTFA will not pay them well. :rotfl:
correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t dennis lawrence getting paid directly from fifa? in all honesty i believe if we change this administration the private sector sponsorship will come on board, i think the hardship we face was caused by our present federation president. I can’t wait to see the last of that fat dotish self serving bastard.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on October 09, 2019, 07:16:07 AM
Pull stones. The private sector! Are you for real?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Cowen on October 09, 2019, 08:37:23 AM
Not sure how well attended this game will be. CPL semis- TKR vs Tridents on that same night.

Soooooo
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: andre samuel on October 09, 2019, 10:39:30 AM
I saw someone looking like Nathan Lewis in the video, unless that was Marcus Joseph, lol
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 09, 2019, 12:16:26 PM
Please i won’t even waste time watching this game live because i already know the out come. the game will start with them dodging a few goals and making a few runs of their own and of course honduras would weather it as usual, with us squandering a few good chances....... as usual

then in the 2nd half honduras would get behind the defense marvin will run out like a mad bull get beaten and goal #1, and I’m being kind here because it could happen early in the first half. they will press for the equalizer leaving their defense open while honduras on the other hand sits patiently waiting to increase their lead and it would come when they run a fast play, bateau and cyrus would be sprinting back after being caught out of position when the counter is sprung, marvin will run out again to play last stopper and get caught off his line somewhere on the 6 yard box goal #2.

then the camera would show dennis bawling out his lungs looking desperate while jovin, kevin and Carr takes all kinds of Hail Mary shots with minor figaroa looking on stoned faced and confident that his goal was not even rocked once as the clock quickly winds down.

then dennis in his post match comments would be angry that we scuffed many chances, he would praise marvin for keeping the score line reasonable, and cyrus would be injury free and live to play another game come next week where the Hondurans would take us apart in the home leg.

PS. then us here would resurrect the fire dennis lawrence thread, foreign born players thread and the fire DJW thread while we cuss the night away claiming that those guys didn’t even string three passes together and instead opted to for the chorus of long balls especially by cyrus who would often bypasses the midfield only to give possession right back to our opponents.

a whole lot of us would not be able to sleep well that night nor have the care to sleep with our spouses. thus would be the tail of the tape come tomorrow, a carbon copy of all the other important games we’ve played since DJW and dennis lawrence entered into our lives, a far cry from Steven hart and raymond timkee’s tenure.

disappointment disappointment disappointment from under 15 boys and girls to senior level men and women, a far cry from even when jack warner was large and in charge. trinis really know how to spoil dung.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini _2022 on October 09, 2019, 12:38:43 PM
I saw someone looking like Nathan Lewis in the video, unless that was Marcus Joseph, lol

he is a must start for DL
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 09, 2019, 12:43:32 PM
I saw someone looking like Nathan Lewis in the video, unless that was Marcus Joseph, lol

he is a must start for DL
nah.......we have Ryan telfer now so him or levi will be riding pine until telfer decide that he made a terrible error in judgment and should have waited patiently for a Canadian call up, of which he telfer would be unavailable (by choice) for the next few years.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Sando prince on October 09, 2019, 01:00:51 PM

anything short of a loss will be a surprise to many
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 09, 2019, 04:08:53 PM
Molino: Trinidad and Tobago will go for three points against Honduras
TTFA Media


Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior Men will be going after three points to maintain their chances of 2021 CONCACAF Gold Cup and Nations League Finals qualification when they face Honduras at the Hasely Crawford Stadium from 7:00pm on Thursday.

The Dennis Lawrence-coached team went into their final session at the game venue on Wednesday evening followed by Honduras’ session for what is expected to be a tense and keenly contested affair with T&T in search of their first win after two draws against Martinique last month.Honduras meanwhile will be playing their first game of the Nations League.

Honduras is coming off two wins at home in September, defeating Puerto Rico 4-0 and Chile 2-1 and will be fancying their chances here after defeating T&T 2-1 in a 2018 World Cup qualifier in Couva back in 2017.

Experienced T&T attacking midfielder Kevin Molino wants to see T&T on the front foot from early as they go after the win.

“It’s an important game for us, mix no matters about that,” Molino told TTFA Media on Wednesday.

“We’re on a run of ten or eleven games without a win which is never good and we owe it to the country and  ourselves as a team to get something positive and try to turn the page. We’re coming off two draws against Martinique and obviously the desire must be to get a victory against Honduras. The boys know it’s vital and we have every reason to try and make things better for the team and local football with a positive result.

“This game will not be easy because Honduras are a quality side and we know what they are capable of but we also have it in us a team to produce good football and it will be important for us to step things up and get it right,”Molino added.

The Minnesota United player scored T&T’s go ahead goal in a 2-0 victory over Honduras in the 2013 CONCACAF Gold Cup when T&T needed a win to secure its passage to the quarter-finals.

Tickets are on sale at all NLCB lotto booths at $200 covered and $100 uncovered and will also be available at the venue on gameday.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 09, 2019, 05:51:02 PM
So according to Lasana, Lawrence refuses to name the squad (https://wired868.com/2019/10/09/mystery-warriors-lawrence-refuses-to-name-tt-squad-before-honduras-game-in-bid-to-gain-advantage/).
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 09, 2019, 06:14:49 PM
So according to Lasana, Lawrence refuses to name the squad (https://wired868.com/2019/10/09/mystery-warriors-lawrence-refuses-to-name-tt-squad-before-honduras-game-in-bid-to-gain-advantage/).

 :)
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Sando prince on October 09, 2019, 08:39:55 PM
So according to Lasana, Lawrence refuses to name the squad (https://wired868.com/2019/10/09/mystery-warriors-lawrence-refuses-to-name-tt-squad-before-honduras-game-in-bid-to-gain-advantage/).

and from that same article

Quote
The lanky head coach, who has managed five wins, eight draws and 17 losses from his 30 matches in charge to date, told reporters that Martinique did not name their squad before they played Trinidad and Tobago on 6 and 10 September.

and this man still have his job...only in T&T


Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 09, 2019, 11:44:32 PM
So according to Lasana, Lawrence refuses to name the squad (https://wired868.com/2019/10/09/mystery-warriors-lawrence-refuses-to-name-tt-squad-before-honduras-game-in-bid-to-gain-advantage/).

and from that same article

Quote
The lanky head coach, who has managed five wins, eight draws and 17 losses from his 30 matches in charge to date, told reporters that Martinique did not name their squad before they played Trinidad and Tobago on 6 and 10 September.

and this man still have his job...only in T&T
not for long. as soon a DJW loses in november and lok loy has a say in this set up, lawrence would be on the next plane to europe hunting for an assistant coaching job. so let him enjoy his last days in the sun, he will soon be back in the ice job hunting, and that’s money in the bank BTW.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 09, 2019, 11:44:46 PM
So according to Lasana, Lawrence refuses to name the squad (https://wired868.com/2019/10/09/mystery-warriors-lawrence-refuses-to-name-tt-squad-before-honduras-game-in-bid-to-gain-advantage/).

and from that same article

Quote
The lanky head coach, who has managed five wins, eight draws and 17 losses from his 30 matches in charge to date, told reporters that Martinique did not name their squad before they played Trinidad and Tobago on 6 and 10 September.

and this man still have his job...only in T&T


Martinique named their squad almost two weeks before we played them.

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69072734_2994330430637654_4631520306249334784_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQkA6RUzHLG4bSI0QYsXqoW3E35gDh7CYEerMVWDDMaLuoRleceInenW7pghaPWRW4s&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=7f9147a446107ba78cf9e909055e2b1c&oe=5E21FDA1)
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Flex on October 10, 2019, 01:39:16 AM
Focused Warriors hunt needed result.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


T&T's So­ca War­riors will seek to rec­ti­fy the mis­takes they made in their pre­vi­ous match­es when they face Hon­duras in their third match of the CON­CA­CAF Na­tions League from 7 pm to­day at the Hase­ly Craw­ford Sta­di­um in Mu­cu­rapo.

Coach Den­nis Lawrence's men had just two days to pre­pare for the en­counter and the coach ad­mit­ted at a press con­fer­ence yes­ter­day that he got two oth­er play­ers to com­plete his puz­zle on­ly yes­ter­day.

The War­riors drew both their pre­vi­ous match­es against Mar­tinique but Lawrence, a for­mer na­tion­al de­fend­er turned coach, re­mind­ed the me­dia of how they drew 2-2 in the sec­ond game last month, say­ing they let it slip.

He promised his play­ers would be fo­cused on get­ting the re­sult that they need to get to­day.

"I think we know what's at stake. We un­der­stand the im­por­tance of this game. The last game, we let it slip, or we would have been in a much bet­ter po­si­tion. The boys looked up to it and are ready for the chal­lenge, so we're go­ing to be very fo­cused and try and get the re­sult that we want to get be­cause we all know the im­por­tance of the game."

Lawrence said Hon­durans are an ex­pe­ri­enced team who will be com­ing with con­fi­dence and be com­pet­i­tive in their at­tempt to get a vic­to­ry.

The Hon­durans de­feat­ed T&T 2-1 the last time the teams met but Lawrence said his charges played a very bad game then, par­tic­u­lar­ly in the first half. The vis­i­tors will al­so be com­ing off of a vic­to­ry in an in­ter­na­tion­al friend­ly with Chile re­cent­ly, which Lawrence ap­plaud­ed, say­ing they did very well to come back and win the en­counter.

Lawrence said he al­so in­tends to use the priv­i­lege of not re­leas­ing his team to their op­po­nents too ear­ly to his ad­van­tage. He told the me­dia his team faced tremen­dous dif­fi­cul­ty against Mar­tinique be­cause he was un­aware of who their play­ers were un­til just be­fore the match, which made it dif­fi­cult to plan. Lawrence, who is yet to re­ceive a win from his team in some 13 match­es, not­ed he will be us­ing a sim­i­lar tac­tic to his ad­van­tage in the fu­ture.

How­ev­er, he said for the War­riors to win and ad­vance in this tour­na­ment, his play­ers must take the chances when they come.

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 10, 2019, 06:26:36 AM
UPDATED unofficial roster (subject to correction)

Goalkeepers:
Marvin Phillip (NEROCA FC - India), Adrian Foncette (Police FC - T&T), Glenroy Samuel (La Horquetta Rangers - T&T)

Defenders:
Daneil Cyrus (Mohun Bagan - India), Sheldon Bateau (KV Mechelen - Belgium), Aubrey David (Deportivo Saprissa - Costa Rica), Mekeil Williams (Oklahoma City Energy FC - USA), Alvin Jones (Oklahoma City Energy FC - USA), Carlyle Mitchell (San Juan Jabloteh - T&T), Keston Julien (AS Trenčín - Slovakia), Ross Russell Jr. (La Horquetta Rangers - T&T)

Midfielders:
Kevin Molino (Minnesota United - USA), Khaleem Hyland (Al Faisaly - Saudi Arabia), Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders FC - USA), Jomal Williams (AD Isidro Metapán - Honduras), Levi Garcia (Beitar Jerusalem FC - Israel), Leston Paul (Memphis 901 FC - USA), Nathaniel Garcia (Gokulam Kerala FC - India), Judah Garcia (Point Fortin Civic FC - T&T), Kevan George (Charlotte Independence - USA), Neveal Hackshaw (Indy Eleven - USA), Dre Fortune (North Carolina FC - USA), Aikim Andrews (La Horquetta Rangers - T&T), Aaron Lester (Defence Force - T&T)

Forwards:
Ryan Telfer (York9 FC - Canada), Akeem Garcia (Halifax Wanderers - Canada), Daniel Carr (Apollon Limassol - Cyprus), Marcus Joseph (Gokulam Kerala FC - India)
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 10, 2019, 07:37:59 AM
Focused Warriors hunt needed result.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


T&T's So­ca War­riors will seek to rec­ti­fy the mis­takes they made in their pre­vi­ous match­es when they face Hon­duras in their third match of the CON­CA­CAF Na­tions League from 7 pm to­day at the Hase­ly Craw­ford Sta­di­um in Mu­cu­rapo.

Coach Den­nis Lawrence's men had just two days to pre­pare for the en­counter and the coach ad­mit­ted at a press con­fer­ence yes­ter­day that he got two oth­er play­ers to com­plete his puz­zle on­ly yes­ter­day.

The War­riors drew both their pre­vi­ous match­es against Mar­tinique but Lawrence, a for­mer na­tion­al de­fend­er turned coach, re­mind­ed the me­dia of how they drew 2-2 in the sec­ond game last month, say­ing they let it slip.

He promised his play­ers would be fo­cused on get­ting the re­sult that they need to get to­day.

"I think we know what's at stake. We un­der­stand the im­por­tance of this game. The last game, we let it slip, or we would have been in a much bet­ter po­si­tion. The boys looked up to it and are ready for the chal­lenge, so we're go­ing to be very fo­cused and try and get the re­sult that we want to get be­cause we all know the im­por­tance of the game."

Lawrence said Hon­durans are an ex­pe­ri­enced team who will be com­ing with con­fi­dence and be com­pet­i­tive in their at­tempt to get a vic­to­ry.

The Hon­durans de­feat­ed T&T 2-1 the last time the teams met but Lawrence said his charges played a very bad game then, par­tic­u­lar­ly in the first half. The vis­i­tors will al­so be com­ing off of a vic­to­ry in an in­ter­na­tion­al friend­ly with Chile re­cent­ly, which Lawrence ap­plaud­ed, say­ing they did very well to come back and win the en­counter.

Lawrence said he al­so in­tends to use the priv­i­lege of not re­leas­ing his team to their op­po­nents too ear­ly to his ad­van­tage. He told the me­dia his team faced tremen­dous dif­fi­cul­ty against Mar­tinique be­cause he was un­aware of who their play­ers were un­til just be­fore the match, which made it dif­fi­cult to plan. Lawrence, who is yet to re­ceive a win from his team in some 13 match­es, not­ed he will be us­ing a sim­i­lar tac­tic to his ad­van­tage in the fu­ture.

How­ev­er, he said for the War­riors to win and ad­vance in this tour­na­ment, his play­ers must take the chances when they come.
it’s been almost three years and he haven’t figured out that puzzle yet, for that matter has he even started it?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Thomo on October 10, 2019, 01:23:19 PM
Nicklas Frenderup on Facebook:
"Delighted to get call up to the national team 🇹🇹 against Honduras and Venezuela.
Very happy for my start in Blink, 8 wins and 1 draw in my first 9 games. Unfortunately i can not go because we don’t have the national break. Good luck tonight boys🇹🇹⚽️🍀"
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 02:32:01 PM
Nicklas Frenderup on Facebook:
"Delighted to get call up to the national team 🇹🇹 against Honduras and Venezuela.
Very happy for my start in Blink, 8 wins and 1 draw in my first 9 games. Unfortunately i can not go because we don’t have the national break. Good luck tonight boys🇹🇹⚽️🍀"

Third tier football does not ordinarily expect to be entertaining NT call-ups.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Anbrat on October 10, 2019, 03:24:53 PM
Possible Online Streams?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 10, 2019, 03:59:29 PM
Possible Online Streams?
it’s on Univision, i don’t know where you live but in north america it’s on univision.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: vb on October 10, 2019, 04:05:27 PM
I forgot there was a game today. I read the Guardian and I jump.


On paper not a bad team. But refused to get excited by TT football. Is like following the WI cricket team. Just settle in and enjoy the pull stones.

VB
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 10, 2019, 04:12:42 PM
I forgot there was a game today. I read the Guardian and I jump.


On paper not a bad team. But refused to get excited by TT football. Is like following the WI cricket team. Just settle in and enjoy the pull stones.

VB
did somebody call my name?  :rotfl: :rotfl:

yes meh boy that is where DJW has taken us, on a very nightmarish journey. just when you think you couldn’t get worst than Oliver camps and this gool appears out of nowhere. I’ll watch the game after the match, I think I’ll take in CPL tonight.  :beermug:
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: vb on October 10, 2019, 04:17:13 PM


I should know better. But I am actually going to take in this match instead of the CPL. Worse yet, I actually reschedule my work hours to catch the game.  :(

VB
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Anbrat on October 10, 2019, 05:08:31 PM
Possible Online Streams?
it’s on Univision, i don’t know where you live but in north america it’s on univision.
Presently in TO but I do not subscribe to cable TV so I am in search of an Online stream.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 10, 2019, 05:11:34 PM
Starting Lineups

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGjYbxBWkAEl3m8?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Jefferz on October 10, 2019, 05:12:54 PM
looking at that line up, i'm very curious to know who is playing exactly where.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 10, 2019, 05:13:55 PM
WATCH LIVE: Trinidad and Tobago vs Honduras (https://www.twitch.tv/peloncito_).
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: bingie man on October 10, 2019, 05:17:13 PM
respect tall man
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Jefferz on October 10, 2019, 05:20:04 PM
Thanks Nige
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 05:30:54 PM
Lawd, Bateau almost had a Cyrus.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 05:59:33 PM
The weak link in the first half is?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 06:06:25 PM
BIG TACKLE by Alvin Jones! :applause:
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Jefferz on October 10, 2019, 06:06:56 PM
but wda... we not playing half bad.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 06:08:46 PM
The weak link in the first half is?

Ah want ah answer!
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Cocorite on October 10, 2019, 06:17:46 PM
The weak link in the first half is?

Ah want ah answer!

Midfield partner to Hyland. . .name escapes me Leston Paul
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 06:18:59 PM
The weak link in the first half is?

Ah want ah answer!

Midfield partner to Hyland. . .name escapes me

:applause:  :applause:  :applause: BOOM! Exposed!
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Anbrat on October 10, 2019, 06:20:30 PM
WATCH LIVE: Trinidad and Tobago vs Honduras (https://www.twitch.tv/peloncito_).
Thank you!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Cocorite on October 10, 2019, 06:24:21 PM
The weak link in the first half is?

Ah want ah answer!

Midfield partner to Hyland. . .name escapes me

:applause:  :applause:  :applause: BOOM! Exposed!

Let's see if Duncy head make any adjustments
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 06:26:16 PM
but wda... we not playing half bad.

Some tweaks need to be made. There are things that Dennis should be able to correct from the sideline.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Cocorite on October 10, 2019, 06:26:46 PM
Like Levi is a Lawn Mower
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: trini_stallion on October 10, 2019, 06:27:13 PM
It bafffles me why this donkey Leston Paul is starting when Hyland is on the field. The man just gallops around the field with no sense of purpose. Joevin deserved to start, he’s in form
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 06:27:55 PM
The weak link in the first half is?

Ah want ah answer!

Midfield partner to Hyland. . .name escapes me

:applause:  :applause:  :applause: BOOM! Exposed!

Let's see if Duncy head make any adjustments

It's glaring right at him.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: FF on October 10, 2019, 06:31:58 PM
We ass dark
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Cocorite on October 10, 2019, 06:33:03 PM
Cyrus needs a job as a personal Escort  ::)
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 06:35:10 PM
Alberth Elis versus Cyrus is a mismatch all day long.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 10, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
GOAL: Brayan Moya gives Honduras a 1-0 over Trinidad and Tobago in the 52nd minute.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini boi on October 10, 2019, 06:39:24 PM
Defense doesn't know how to pass the ball out.  Everytime is a blast up field to give it back to Honduras so they can continue to apply the pressure.  And of course Cyrus is the culprit again.  He's on a hattrick now, three goals due to him.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on October 10, 2019, 06:43:21 PM
steups dese fellas frustrating Cyrus is a waste of time man like prostitute only escortin man
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on October 10, 2019, 06:47:06 PM
Why dem backing off in we box :o :cursing:
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini boi on October 10, 2019, 06:47:17 PM
And oh yes, they can't pass to save their lives.  Either the passes are too hard (which is most of the time) or too soft.  And still no midfield.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 06:51:21 PM
Defense doesn't know how to pass the ball out.  Everytime is a blast up field to give it back to Honduras so they can continue to apply the pressure.  And of course Cyrus is the culprit again.  He's on a hattrick now, three goals due to him.

There are moments when we should be driving the ball into that acreage of space before attempting the dissecting pass.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini boi on October 10, 2019, 06:54:41 PM
well that's game, 2nd yellow for Levi
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on October 10, 2019, 06:54:51 PM
Levi all kinda useless
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on October 10, 2019, 06:57:45 PM
Even s simplest pass dem cyah make
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on October 10, 2019, 07:00:08 PM
Bateau miss ah good chance
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 07:02:27 PM
Levi all kinda useless

Not tonight.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 07:03:37 PM
Well that sub of LP took forever.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: FF on October 10, 2019, 07:05:46 PM
I surprised this is the first time it coming to this. Lucky is only yellows there. Musbe frustrating to be taking steady licks
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: FF on October 10, 2019, 07:10:08 PM
Lawrence have no shame. It didn't have to reach here. Officially the worst coach we ever had.
Record games without a win. Congrats I guess
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on October 10, 2019, 07:10:13 PM
Cyrus f**kin useless
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: FF on October 10, 2019, 07:11:05 PM
More red card yes lol
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on October 10, 2019, 07:13:15 PM
More red card yes lol
who
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on October 10, 2019, 07:14:20 PM
wow well boy
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: FF on October 10, 2019, 07:14:40 PM
More red card yes lol
who

Mekeil Williams
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: gawd on pitch on October 10, 2019, 07:18:42 PM
From national football hero, to the national football villain. . Regardless the reaction, DJW will still praise him.

Counting the days until the election. . The question is, if Lawrence goes, who else is there?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on October 10, 2019, 07:20:06 PM
More red card yes lol
who

Mekeil Williams

my goodness d disaster continues....if DJW still president after d election, we will know just how much pride and love for d local game football stakeholders truly have
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 10, 2019, 07:20:17 PM
FINAL: Trinidad and Tobago 0-2 Honduras. Goals scored by Brayan Moya (52') and Douglas Martinez (90'). T&T ended the game with 9 men as Levi Garcia and Mekeil Williams were ejected from the game.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tobago28 on October 10, 2019, 07:20:48 PM
Well done Dennis you are famous and notorious
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Anbrat on October 10, 2019, 07:26:43 PM
*SIGH*
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 07:34:53 PM
Bateau?

Guerra?

I see Bateau in the video, and someone who looks like Guerra, but not sure.

Bateau .

Guerra ✓ :)

Ah cyah believe Tulla siddung on de bench that long.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: royal on October 10, 2019, 07:52:09 PM
FINAL: Trinidad and Tobago 0-2 Honduras. Goals scored by Brayan Moya (52') and Douglas Martinez (90'). T&T ended the game with 9 men as Levi Garcia and Mekeil Williams were ejected from the game.
ah guess the mystery warriors ting didn't work
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: SWO_TNTFAN on October 10, 2019, 07:55:37 PM
Well that’s relegation. Bye bye hex. Dennis can stay now, there is nothing left to play for. No games = no money for TTFA = GG. Bye bye DJW.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Sando prince on October 10, 2019, 08:06:18 PM
I think they will tie the game.  They must focus on time management on the field when they have possession of the ball. when I look at the previous match when Trinidad has beaten Honduras, they were very poor in keeping the ball and not able to create chances at goal. I know DL focus on the defensive. Trinidad struggles on their attacking part of the game. I know they have individual talent but not match quality. Match Quality is the ability to understand the level of the game in which keeping ball away from their opponents.

what game?

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Sando prince on October 10, 2019, 08:07:07 PM
Let DL give his usual spin in the post press conference and let the T&T sports media eat it up...same old same old
.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 08:18:06 PM
From national football hero, to the national football villain. . Regardless the reaction, DJW will still praise him.

Counting the days until the election. . The question is, if Lawrence goes, who else is there?

If? ???
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 08:22:21 PM
More red card yes lol
who

Mekeil Williams

my goodness d disaster continues....if DJW still president after d election, we will know just how much pride and love for d local game football stakeholders truly have

DJW's re-election would mean that Trinidad and Tobago is NOT a self-respecting nation or football country and that the constituents of the federation are truly cannibalistic. I doh care what expedient or convenient arguments supposedly exist in his favour, none are sufficiently sustaining. I challenge anyone to present the case, privately or publicly.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 10, 2019, 08:23:32 PM
Please i won’t even waste time watching this game live because i already know the out come. the game will start with them dodging a few goals and making a few runs of their own and of course honduras would weather it as usual, with us squandering a few good chances....... as usual

then in the 2nd half honduras would get behind the defense marvin will run out like a mad bull get beaten and goal #1, and I’m being kind here because it could happen early in the first half. they will press for the equalizer leaving their defense open while honduras on the other hand sits patiently waiting to increase their lead and it would come when they run a fast play, bateau and cyrus would be sprinting back after being caught out of position when the counter is sprung, marvin will run out again to play last stopper and get caught off his line somewhere on the 6 yard box goal #2.

then the camera would show dennis bawling out his lungs looking desperate while jovin, kevin and Carr takes all kinds of Hail Mary shots with minor figaroa looking on stoned faced and confident that his goal was not even rocked once as the clock quickly winds down.

then dennis in his post match comments would be angry that we scuffed many chances, he would praise marvin for keeping the score line reasonable, and cyrus would be injury free and live to play another game come next week where the Hondurans would take us apart in the home leg.

PS. then us here would resurrect the fire dennis lawrence thread, foreign born players thread and the fire DJW thread while we cuss the night away claiming that those guys didn’t even string three passes together and instead opted to for the chorus of long balls especially by cyrus who would often bypasses the midfield only to give possession right back to our opponents.

a whole lot of us would not be able to sleep well that night nor have the care to sleep with our spouses. thus would be the tail of the tape come tomorrow, a carbon copy of all the other important games we’ve played since DJW and dennis lawrence entered into our lives, a far cry from Steven hart and raymond timkee’s tenure.

disappointment disappointment disappointment from under 15 boys and girls to senior level men and women, a far cry from even when jack warner was large and in charge. trinis really know how to spoil dung.
did i call it or what? now everybody cussing, the females know that their blank sure tonight because cyrus killed the mood. i can't waste no time on this team call me when DJW and dennis the stooge is gone.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: soccerman on October 10, 2019, 08:28:23 PM
Among other things, a sport psychologist is needed, dem fellas fraustrated.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 10, 2019, 08:30:49 PM
More red card yes lol
who

Mekeil Williams

my goodness d disaster continues....if DJW still president after d election, we will know just how much pride and love for d local game football stakeholders truly have

DJW's re-election would mean that Trinidad and Tobago is NOT a self-respecting nation or football country. I doh care what expedient or convenient arguments supposedly exist in his favour. I challenge anyone to present the case.
self respecting you say? these people destroyed a whole country with lawyers judges and politicians all having a hand in it, these people only respect instant gratification and selfish gain. these spanish boy will continue to come in our back yard and take points from us anytime they feel, it's like taking candy from a down syndrome baby.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 10, 2019, 08:31:37 PM
Among other things, a sport psychologist is needed, dem fellas fraustrated.
you mean frustrating to watch.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 10, 2019, 08:34:05 PM
Lawrence have no shame. It didn't have to reach here. Officially the worst coach we ever had.
Record games without a win. Congrats I guess

But have we dropped anchor yet?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: soccerman on October 10, 2019, 08:36:57 PM
Among other things, a sport psychologist is needed, dem fellas fraustrated.
you mean frustrating to watch.
Yes! We might need one too.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 10, 2019, 08:42:55 PM
WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago's 2-0 loss to Honduras.

https://www.youtube.com/v/z8VFghzXuB4
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 10, 2019, 08:43:03 PM
did anybody seriously think that we was going to get anything from this game tonight? sometimes we actually set up ourselves for failure when we well know that we're out classed and does not have the pedigree to compete with the top six in concacaf, at least not right now. our football is dead and stinking.

in addition to that we have a goalie who does not know the game, just look at the many errors and turnovers he created tonight. the man never played in a good league yet the coach continues along the line.

cyrus as we all know is a big dum jackass yet he's a main stay on the team. just watch how he gave the defender the line instead of pushing him on the inside, this is elementary defending. and this one on one defending is nonsense. who the hell defends a dangerous player like ellis one on one?

boy we need to fix football in trinidad real bad. our developmental programs is a big fat joke and we need to start over from scratch if we are to be successful.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 10, 2019, 08:58:39 PM
WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago's 2-0 loss to Honduras.

https://www.youtube.com/v/z8VFghzXuB4
those two idiot central defenders always getting caught out of position and making silly amateurish mistakes. and just watch bateau ball watching while two men are free to score, boy these men are not of any international quality what so ever. i would rather not have a national team than to bring in players to debase the country's image, these men have no pride because they have no fitness yet they rush to play for country. big waste from president on down.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 10, 2019, 09:07:36 PM
BTW the referee and the lines men are big cheats, they made a mess of things as usual. IMO concacaf has the worst officiating of all the confederation. those spanish boys needs to be investigated by fifa asap, i honestly believe most of them are of questionable character.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: ffisback on October 10, 2019, 10:05:17 PM
What happen to J Jones I heard the crowd chanting his name I expected him to play in a must win game like this but I did not see him did he go another boat ride again.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: davyjenny1 on October 10, 2019, 11:29:02 PM
EPISODE 148 FIELD OF DREAMS ( TT NATIONS CUP PERFORMANCE)

53:58 Hannibal Hajjar, want DL to step down.

https://www.youtube.com/v/3vQzSGvunE4

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Flex on October 11, 2019, 01:36:07 AM
Hondurans shut out T&T 2-0.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


Trinidad and To­ba­go’s chances of pro­gress­ing out of the group in the Con­ca­caf Na­tions League were dealt a se­vere blow when they were shut out 2-0 by Hon­duras at the Hase­ly Craw­ford Sta­di­um in Port-of-Spain last night.

The vis­i­tors got a sec­ond-half goals from Bryan Ve­lasquez-Moya (52th) and Dou­glas Mar­tinez (90th) as skip­per Kevin Moli­no’s side was con­fined to yet an­oth­er de­feat in what has been a hor­ri­ble run for them so far this year.

And on an­oth­er day the score­line could have been much wider, as the vis­i­tors en­joyed the bet­ter of the ex­changes on the night and it was on­ly some des­per­ate de­fend­ing by Daneil Cyrus, Alvin Jones and com­pa­ny which pre­vent­ed fur­ther goals.

In the 52nd minute, Al­berth Elis skil­ful­ly blew past Cyrus on the right flank be­fore de­liv­er­ing for Ve­lasquez-Moya to hit pow­er­ful­ly past goal­keep­er Mar­vin Phillip.

And Mar­tinez was again at the cen­tre of the at­tack for Hon­duras again, this time he stormed down the right side and re­leased for an un­marked Mar­tinez Juarez Dou­glas to drill the fi­nal nail in the T&T cof­fin in the 90th minute.

The War­riors, who start­ed strong de­spite a small turnout of fans, al­so fin­ished the match with nine men af­ter Levi Gar­cia was giv­en march­ing or­ders in the 72nd minute for his sec­ond book­able of­fence and Mekeil Williams was shown a straight red for a vi­cious tack­le in time added on at the end of the match.

Ear­li­er in the sev­enth minute, slop­py de­fen­sive work by Shel­don Bateau al­most al­lowed a de­flect­ed at­tempt to squeeze past T&T goalie Phillip.

TT’s best chance came in the 25th when Moli­no picked out Shel­don Bateauwith his left-sided cor­ner, but Bateau’s pow­er­ful head­er crashed against the cross­bar be­fore go­ing to safe­ty.

Lat­er, Ryan Telfer com­bined with Khaleem Hy­land but the lat­ter, with miles of room in front him, saw his shot sail over­bar.

The teams went in­to the in­ter­val goal­less but af­ter­wards, Hon­duras dom­i­nat­ed the af­fair.

How­ev­er, T&T should have scored a con­so­la­tion item in the 85th when Moli­no’s cross from a free­kick found Akeem Gar­cia un­marked at the back post but he failed to con­nect with the ball.

The Soca Warriors needed a win to have any chance of a berth in the Concacaf Hex for the Qatar 2022 World Cup qualifying series while Dennis Lawrence also set an unwanted mark for the longest win-less streak in the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association’s 111 year history. The lanky head coach, who has managed five wins, eight draws and 18 losses from his 31 matches - (Wired868).

(Teams)

Trinidad and Tobago (4-2-3-1): 1.Marvin Phillip (GK); 16.Alvin Jones, 4.Sheldon Bateau, 5.Daneil Cyrus, 17.Mekeil Williams [Red Card]; 23.Leston Paul (9.Ataulla Guerra 73), 8.Khaleem Hyland (captain); 11.Levi Garcia [Red Card], 10.Kevin Molino, 7.Ryan Telfer (13.Duane Muckette 87); 14.Daniel Carr (20.Akeem Garcia 62).

Unused substitutes: 21.Glenroy Samuel (GK), 22.Adrian Foncette (GK), 2.Aubrey David, 3.Joevin Jones, 6.Keston Julien, 15.Neveal Hackshaw, 12.Carlyle Mitchell, 18.Aikim Andrews, 19.Kevan George.

Coach: Dennis Lawrence

Honduras (4-2-2-2): 22.Luis Lopez (GK); 2.Félix Crisanto, 4.Henry Figueroa, 3.Maynor Figueroa (captain), 5.Éver Alvarado; 8.Carlos Pineda, 10.Alexander López (20.Jorge Álvarez 75); 17.Alberth Ellis, 12.Jonathan Toro; 11.Bryan Róchez (16.Rigoberto Rivas 67), 13.Brayan Moya (14.Douglas Martinez 81).

Unused substitutes: 1.Harold Fonseca (GK), 18.Jose Zuniga (GK), 6.Bryan Acosta, 7.Emilio Izaguirre, 9.Jorge Benguche, 15.Denil Maldonado, 19.Luis Garrido, 21.Danilo Tobias, 23.Edwin Solano.

Coach: Fabián Coito

Highlights - Trinidad 0 - 2 Honduras (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6n5xok04OUl)

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Honduras whip T&T 2-0 in ill-tempered affair.
By Joel Bailey (Newsday).


HONDURAS whipped T&T 2-0 in an ill-tempered affair on Thursday evening, at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Mucurapo, in a Concacaf Nations League, League A, Group C encounter.

Brayan Moya and Douglas Martinez were the goal-getters for Honduras, with T&T finishing the game with nine men as Levi Garcia and Mekeil Williams were sent off by referee Mario Escobar.

This result will certainly heap more pressure on T&T’s beleaguered coach Dennis Lawrence, whose winless run has now been extended to 13 (nine defeats and four draws).

T&T entered this match on the back of two drawn results (1-1 and 2-2) against the other team in Group C, Martinique. Honduras were playing their first game in the group.

Lawrence made two changes from last month’s 2-2 draw against Martinique at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, with captain Khaleem Hyland and left-back Williams replacing Kevan George and Aubrey David.

Hyland played his part in T&T’s first attack on the Honduras goal, in the third minute. The T&T skipper picked out fellow midfielder Kevin Molino to his left, and Molino’s right-footed effort went wide of the mark.

Sheldon Bateau, who wore the captain’s armband against Martinique, almost gifted Honduras an opening goal four minutes later. The central defender took too long to control a back pass and saw his shot crash off Honduras’ striker Bryan Rochez, leaving T&T goalkeeper Marvin Phillip to rush back to clear the looping ball off the line.

Bateau, on the other end of the field, came close in the 27th minute, as he met Molino’s corner with a header which crashed off the crossbar, with the loose ball cleared off the line by defender Felix Crisanto.

In a rare T&T foray, Hyland took a ball from Molino and sent his left-footed drive overbar, while Honduras’ skipper Maynor Figueroa forced Phillip to push a powerfully-hit freekick overbar.

Honduras changed gears in the second half, with Phillip forced to parry a low right-footed shot from Ever Alvarado but a lurking Alberth Elis sent the rebound high, from a few metres out.

Honduras eventually broke the deadlock in the 51st, with a close-range left-footed shot from Moya, after Elis left T&T centre-back Daneil Cyrus for dead, on the left by-line.

Debutant Akeem Garcia, who came on for an ineffective striker Daniel Carr in the 61st, was deployed in his unaccustomed role as centre forward.

He had a chance to tie the scores six minutes later when he ran at a pass from Hyland but sent a low right-footed shot wide off Luis Lopez’s goal.

Levi Garcia was given his marching orders two minutes later, for a second bookable offence (after fouls on Alvarado in the 47th and Jonathan Toro), while Molino vented his frustration at the referee and got a yellow card.

The T&T players almost got into a brawl with their opponents in the 84th after Alvin Jones got into a tangle with Carlos Pineda; Rigoberto Rivas and Phillip were subsequently booked by the referee.

With the T&T players looking for an elusive equaliser, Honduras capitalised on defensive gaps to net their second item, in the 89th.

Once again, Cyrus was left twisting and turning by Elis, who squared the ball to an unmarked Martinez, to his left, and the substitute midfielder slotted the ball past Phillip.

Williams added salt to his team’s wounds with a lunging tackle on Crisanto, in the 90th.

Honduras will play their next two Nations League, League A Group C matches at home – against Martinique on Sunday and T&T on November 17.

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Controversial on October 11, 2019, 04:12:28 AM
More red card yes lol
who

Mekeil Williams

my goodness d disaster continues....if DJW still president after d election, we will know just how much pride and love for d local game football stakeholders truly have

DJW's re-election would mean that Trinidad and Tobago is NOT a self-respecting nation or football country and that the constituents of the federation are truly cannibalistic. I doh care what expedient or convenient arguments supposedly exist in his favour, none are sufficiently sustaining. I challenge anyone to present the case, privately or publicly.

Cannibalistic or bribery?  :D
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on October 11, 2019, 04:43:32 AM
WATCH: Post-match comments from Head Coach Dennis Lawrence following Trinidad and Tobago's 2-0 loss to Honduras.

https://www.youtube.com/v/-PA7n4MQ9IM
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini boi on October 11, 2019, 05:45:14 AM
How is Guerra and Jones not starting? Why do we have Paul and Cyrus not on the bench? Carr also shouldve never started this game. We have Molino as a striker when it should be Telfer with Jones behind him. Thats a lot of speed on the left side alone. Telfer with Guerra at the top, with Molino and Hyland mid. Wasting talent on the bench and starting scrubs.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 11, 2019, 06:11:05 AM
WATCH: Post-match comments from Head Coach Dennis Lawrence following Trinidad and Tobago's 2-0 loss to Honduras.

https://www.youtube.com/v/-PA7n4MQ9IM
wait a minute dennis, so none of this is your fault? you defended cyrus last week in Mexico when he gave away the ball in the middle of the park. he was also involved in many incidents in the recent past that lead to goals him and the bateau bloke who lost the ball in the final third last night that almost lead to a goal, our central defenders are horrendous and a total novice could see it.

you also insist on leston Paul when we have Neval hackshaw rottting on the bench who’s a way better attacker and defender than leston yet you insist on paul who has limited skills and no speed. as for the goalie those two goals were quite savable IMO. sometimes the difference between winning and losing is your goalie, just ask costa rica if you don’t believe me.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Anbrat on October 11, 2019, 06:12:29 AM
WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago's 2-0 loss to Honduras.

https://www.youtube.com/v/z8VFghzXuB4
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Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 11, 2019, 06:22:36 AM
What happen to J Jones I heard the crowd chanting his name I expected him to play in a must win game like this but I did not see him did he go another boat ride again.
what about ranjitsingh? it’s quite obvious that dennis lawrence didn’t rate jovin from the beginning. jovin has never featured on his team neither hackshaw. these are the some of the madening things that leave me scratching my head with local coaches. the insistence on cyrus, Paul and Phillips when there are more talented players to chose from and especially when these staring players add very little quality to the team, are very madening to behold.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 11, 2019, 07:26:57 AM
EPISODE 148 FIELD OF DREAMS ( TT NATIONS CUP PERFORMANCE)

53:58 Hannibal Hajjar, want DL to step down.

https://www.youtube.com/v/3vQzSGvunE4
and there in lies the problem. i’ve just wasted an hour of my life listening to these old men talk about local vs foreign based when that has nothing to do with why we are under performing. if foreign vs local base were the real issue then tell me why are we losing at every level from under 15 to senior both men and women’s football? this is clearly an over sight and misdiagnosis.

 It’s very hard to sit and listen to these old men who obviously suffer with the same disease as dennis, and the xenophobia is ripe in this regard where they only want to see local talent on display that’s why ranjitsingh who plays on a higher level and is arguable better than all the local keepers we have could never earn a cap to save his life and in spite of marvin’s obvious flaws. yet they never even address this a little, how very dishonest.

none of these old men put DJW on the spot, in fact they were all very cautious not to put the spot light on him nor hold him in contempt. and I’m sure some of them were even instrumental in putting DJW at the helm. it’s small petty thinking like this that has us as a nation under performing at all levels and in all aspects of our existence. these people needs to take an honest approach, it’s the only true problem solver.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Sam on October 11, 2019, 08:19:53 AM
We bench coulda beat we starting line up.

Dennis eh know how to coach and motivate players.

This man will bury we football.

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Sando prince on October 11, 2019, 11:11:02 AM
Look where T&T football reach. Everyone shitting on we, last week it was St Vincent shit on we, Guyana already shit on we too

Look at DL record as coach - https://www.facebook.com/TeamTrinbago/posts/136433517702833

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Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: soccerman on October 11, 2019, 12:25:41 PM
Dennis sounding like a broken record now. You keep playing the same players game in, game out and other aspiring players are not given the chance. There were certain games they could've played plus as a coach you can cleverly use them in certain situations where they won't be exposed.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tongue on October 11, 2019, 01:19:35 PM
Ooooooooye fellahs
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 11, 2019, 03:08:12 PM
How is Guerra and Jones not starting? Why do we have Paul and Cyrus not on the bench? Carr also shouldve never started this game. We have Molino as a striker when it should be Telfer with Jones behind him. Thats a lot of speed on the left side alone. Telfer with Guerra at the top, with Molino and Hyland mid. Wasting talent on the bench and starting scrubs.

Correct.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 11, 2019, 03:17:44 PM
Was Cyrus covering up an injury? Seems like he was hobbling about on certain actions.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Controversial on October 11, 2019, 05:15:29 PM
Dennis sounding like a broken record now. You keep playing the same players game in, game out and other aspiring players are not given the chance. There were certain games they could've played plus as a coach you can cleverly use them in certain situations where they won't be exposed.

That’s how a sabotage works...  :o :devil:
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Cowen on October 11, 2019, 06:20:41 PM
We bench coulda beat we starting line up.

Dennis eh know how to coach and motivate players.

This man will bury buried we football.



corrected
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Flex on October 12, 2019, 12:36:23 AM
Lawrence very disappointed.
By Walter Alibey (Guardian).


Dis­ap­point­ed is how na­tion­al foot­ball coach Den­nis Lawrence feels af­ter his team was beat­en 2-0 by Hon­duras in the CON­CA­CAF Na­tions League at the Hase­ly Craw­ford Sta­di­um in Mu­cu­rapo on Thurs­day night.

Speak­ing dur­ing a post-match press con­fer­ence at the VIP Lounge of the Hase­ly Craw­ford Sta­di­um, Lawrence said he felt that way not on­ly be­cause of the re­sult but be­cause he didn’t see a game that had any­thing in it to war­rant sev­en book­ings, in­clud­ing two red cards and a hurt­ful loss for his team.

He al­so de­fend­ed Levi Gar­cia, who was red-card­ed in the match for his sec­ond book­able of­fence, say­ing he didn’t think his chal­lenge on a play­er was de­serv­ing of a card. T&T’s Mekeil Williams, who came on as a sec­ond-half sub­sti­tute, was al­so shown a straight red card for a tack­le on a Hon­duran strik­er.

The re­sult now makes T&T’s chances of pro­gress­ing out of the group and qual­i­fy­ing for the Qatar World Cup in 2022 very slim, if not im­pos­si­ble.

The So­ca War­riors will next face the Hon­durans on No­vem­ber 17 in a re­turn match, but Lawrence could po­ten­tial­ly have to de­fend him­self and his team again, as he again lament­ed the chal­lenges he faces in pro­duc­ing a com­pet­i­tive team with­out a func­tion­ing T&T Pro­fes­sion­al Foot­ball League.

His trou­bles ap­pear to have been ex­ac­er­bat­ed by play­ers re­peat­ing mis­takes of the past. Lawrence said this means that play­ers are not learn­ing and called on them to start tak­ing re­spon­si­bil­i­ty for their per­for­mances.

“When I look back at the game tonight, I thought we did very well. We com­pet­ed well, we man­aged the ball well," Lawrence said.

"And then the sec­ond half start­ed and there was noth­ing in the game and then one in­ci­dent where we gave away a very soft goal, from my opin­ion, a very poor de­fen­sive, in­di­vid­ual de­ci­sion and then we’re there, chas­ing the game.”

He added, “Then we get a red card and then an­oth­er red card as we were chas­ing the game. The sec­ond goal was ir­rel­e­vant be­cause we were try­ing to get back in­to the game.”

Lawrence, who has now gone some 13 match­es with­out a vic­to­ry as the coach, be­lieves the on­ly way to fix the prob­lems the team is plagued with is to work hard­er and bring in new and younger play­ers while the team shifts its fo­cus on the long term, with an en­counter with Venezuela on the ta­ble.

He said the tech­ni­cal staff will now have to take the risk of us­ing young play­ers in key match­es and this would have se­vere con­se­quences on the coun­try’s FI­FA/CON­CA­CAF rank­ings and World Cup qual­i­fy­ing chances.

“You’ve got short-term, medi­um-term and you’ve got long term goals, and the way I think we ought to look at now is long term," he said.

"Once the Na­tions League struc­ture came in­to play we were al­ways go­ing to face this chal­lenge be­cause every game now counts for some­thing. So the fact that there is no more in­ter­na­tion­al friend­ly match per se means giv­ing a young play­er an op­por­tu­ni­ty be­comes more dif­fi­cult.

“This is be­cause you need to put them in a com­pet­i­tive en­vi­ron­ment. Now you look at it and ask your­self is he ready or is he not?... So the on­ly way you’re go­ing to find out is by putting him in the sit­u­a­tion. So we have Venezuela now and the on­ly way you will know if some­body like Ke­ston Julien or An­dre For­tune is ready is by putting them in the sit­u­a­tion.”

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Flex on October 12, 2019, 12:37:48 AM
United TTFA: 13 matches without a win.
T&T Guardian Reports.


Fol­low­ing T&T's 2-0 loss to Hon­duras in the Con­ca­caf Na­tions League at the Hase­ly Craw­ford Sta­di­um in Port-of-Spain on Thurs­day night at the team's chances of not pro­g­e­si­ing out of the group stage the Unit­ed TTFA stake­hold­ers is­sues the fol­low­ing state­ment which is pub­lished in full.

UNIT­ED TTFA STATEMENT

The state­ment reads, "Unit­ed TTFA is alarmed at the home de­feat of the So­ca War­riors by Hon­duras last night, which con­demned our se­nior men's na­tion­al team to its longest ever run with­out a win since Trinidad and To­ba­go joined FI­FA in 1962 - an un­prece­dent­ed thir­teen match­es.

More­over, the loss forces our team to the bot­tom of the CON­CA­CAF Na­tions League group stand­ings and vir­tu­al­ly elim­i­nates our coun­try's chances of se­cur­ing an au­to­mat­ic berth to ei­ther the World Cup or Gold Cup. Sad­ly, our team is head­ed in­to the sec­ond di­vi­sion of the CON­CA­CAF Na­tions League.

With­in the same week, Trinidad and To­ba­go's se­nior women's na­tion­al team fin­ished sec­ond to last in its Caribbean Olympic qual­i­fy­ing group and was elim­i­nat­ed from that CON­CA­CAF tour­na­ment. Mere­ly four years ago that team chal­lenged Ecuador for a place in the Women's World Cup.

Unit­ed TTFA sees the im­me­di­ate ill for­tune of these two na­tion­al teams as em­blem­at­ic of the on­go­ing col­lapse of TTFA's na­tion­al teams' pro­gramme un­der the David John-Williams ad­min­is­tra­tion. Since com­ing to pow­er in 2015, the David John-Williams has presided over the alarm­ing de­struc­tion of Trinidad and To­ba­go's once un­ri­valled dom­i­na­tion of Caribbean foot­ball, and the loss of its hard-won sta­tus as a mem­ber of CON­CA­CAF's elite.

This cat­a­stroph­ic de­cline is ev­i­dent in all of our na­tion­al teams, ir­re­spec­tive of age group or gen­der. The ab­sence of fans from na­tion­al team match­es is an in­creas­ing­ly des­per­ate protest, even from loy­al sup­port­ers, against our in­creas­ing­ly abysmal per­for­mance in the in­ter­na­tion­al are­na.

Unit­ed TTFA re­jects the stan­dard ex­cus­es be­ing of­fered by the TTFA Pres­i­dent and na­tion­al team coach­es in de­fence of their dis­mal record. Fail­ure is now be­ing cam­ou­flaged by talk of "de­vel­op­ment".

Unit­ed TTFA be­lieves the ex­pla­na­tion for our dra­mat­ic fall from grace is that un­der David John-Williams the se­lec­tion and con­tract­ing of na­tion­al coach­es have be­come in­creas­ing­ly ar­bi­trary and non-trans­par­ent; the op­er­a­tion of na­tion­al coach­es and na­tion­al teams has be­come un­teth­ered from any form of tech­ni­cal su­per­vi­sion and ac­count­abil­i­ty; and the se­lec­tion of play­ers has be­come in­creas­ing­ly hap­haz­ard and nar­row.

Unit­ed TTFA al­so be­lieves, how­ev­er, that de­liv­er­ance is on the hori­zon - the TTFA elec­tion of 24 No­vem­ber.

Unit­ed TTFA has a vi­sion, sup­port­ed by a plan, for the restora­tion of Trinidad and To­ba­go's for­tunes and sta­tus on the in­ter­na­tion­al stage. This will re­quire time and in­vest­ment but Unit­ed TTFA pledges to achieve this wor­thy ob­jec­tive. We call on all foot­ball lovers, and all of Trinidad and To­ba­go, to be of stout heart. De­liv­er­ance is close to hand."

The state­ment was sub­mit­ted on be­half of:

An­tho­ny Har­ford (North Zone)

Kei­th Look Loy (Su­per League)

Sam Phillip (Foot­ball sup­port­er)

Clynt Tay­lor (Cen­tral Zone)

William Wal­lace (Secondary Schools - SS­FL)

Su­san War­rick (Women's Foot­ball)

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 12, 2019, 01:00:22 AM
Sam Phillip has to be our Sam isn’t it?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 12, 2019, 01:05:25 AM
Was Cyrus covering up an injury? Seems like he was hobbling about on certain actions.
If he was seriously injured enough to impede his game i doubt he would start when the bench has other options, i just wish he never plays for us again, he’s a hot mess.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on October 12, 2019, 06:41:47 AM
Sam Phillip has to be our Sam isn’t it?

I don't think so. But I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: FF on October 12, 2019, 07:50:34 AM
It is definitely not
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: ffisback on October 12, 2019, 10:46:52 PM
Honduras is a legitimate top 4 team in the CONCACAF they have been battling it out with Costa Rica for 3rd and 4 spot for past decade the ease in which 1ball over the of the defense left Ellis alone with man to beat was not a good sign of things to come it was to easy the way Honduras was able to play through TT defense.

I watched A Ellis terrorize the Jamaican defense in Kingston but there 2 defensive midfielders was always there to put out the fire TT defensive midfielders was always missing in action L Paul was always late getting inside the box and K Hyland was no wear to be found this gave there attack uncontested shoots on goal I don't think these guys understand there roles they are not providing enough cover for our left back and right back when they go forward which is leaving A Ellis with 1 on 1 duals with Cyrus and that's not good.

K Molino was bottled up he had to drop back deep just to get the ball when ever our attacker got free there was always enough cover to breakup the attack all of our shoots was contested and taking off a forward when we needs goals was a mistake once he took of D Carr there was no one running in the channels anymore that freed up there center backs.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 12, 2019, 10:55:23 PM
How tall is Carr @ffisback?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 13, 2019, 02:20:35 AM
Honduras is a legitimate top 4 team in the CONCACAF they have been battling it out with Costa Rica for 3rd and 4 spot for past decade the ease in which 1ball over the of the defense left Ellis alone with man to beat was not a good sign of things to come it was to easy the way Honduras was able to play through TT defense.

I watched A Ellis terrorize the Jamaican defense in Kingston but there 2 defensive midfielders was always there to put out the fire TT defensive midfielders was always missing in action L Paul was always late getting inside the box and K Hyland was no wear to be found this gave there attack uncontested shoots on goal I don't think these guys understand there roles they are not providing enough cover for our left back and right back when they go forward which is leaving A Ellis with 1 on 1 duals with Cyrus and that's not good.

K Molino was bottled up he had to drop back deep just to get the ball when ever our attacker got free there was always enough cover to breakup the attack all of our shoots was contested and taking off a forward when we needs goals was a mistake once he took of D Carr there was no one running in the channels anymore that freed up there center backs.
this is the first time i could actually say i agree with you. and to add to that we play this game like we are Brazil or spain when we refuse to foul attacks to slow down games and off set build up plays because once Ellis took off cyrus had the speed to bounce him off the ball and claim the foul, the same way that maynor figaroa was doing levi garcia when he was beaten for pace.

another obvious lack of tactics is when we play these clinical quality players one on one, imagine cyrus or aubrey david going up against any of concacaf’s best finishers like pulasic, Leon bailey, joel campbell, carona, or even alphonzo davies they will be out foxed and destroyed, because these men is world class players and has to be doubled teamed at all times when they advance on your goal.

when kenwin was playing for us he was never left to be played one on one by any team both club and on an international level, he was always double and sometimes triple teamed so it baffles me when we leave dangerous players like ellis to run free without a defender and a midfielder hounding him.

and did anybody seen those two goals? this is why i keep saying it over and over again, your team is as good as your goal keeper. IMO those two goals were very savable goals and if we had an agile handle your business goalie those goals would have been saved easily by a zack stephon or a Yohan blake.

you people might think i’m targeting marvin phillip but this guy is a serious liability. never ever ever when we needed to win a game did this guy ever came up with a clean sheet, in fact he always concede some really soft silly goals when we were in must win situations. I remember when we played panama in the gold cup quarterfinals at MetLife stadium a few years ago, and once i saw him on the roster i knew we would lose the game.

when last he had a clean sheet in an important game? in fact the only clean sheet I can recall him having was the game vs Japan this year, but other than that i cannot recall a clean sheet by this feller, and he’s not to be blamed but dennis is. after this butter fingers goalie conceded 6 goals vs the usa dennis went right back and played him in the nation’s league, this is madness when you reward ineptitude with gratuity.

dennis lawrence is a lame duck and a dud who needs to be fired forthwith, but of course DJW will not fire him because dennis is a black local boy who deserves a chance to totally demolish us to the lower 100s in the fifa rankings, only then he “might” consider firing him.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: frico on October 13, 2019, 02:21:18 PM
WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago's 2-0 loss to Honduras.

https://www.youtube.com/v/z8VFghzXuB4
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I don't follow football as close as you do but I can assure you i feel the same as you.It took me less than 10 minutes of watching TT vs Hon.to work out how bad we are,I refused to look anymore after watching 10 minutes of crap football from TT.
Sadly we will get worse.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 13, 2019, 03:50:20 PM
That second yellow given to Levi was an invented yellow. Foul yes, yellow no. Even the commentators agree and, in questioning the call, view it as a made-up call. That stated, the coach has to consider that a player who accumulated a card is at risk of being ejected.

After Levi made his first half contribution, another player who could have added value without the burden of a card, should have been introduced. So despite DL being critical of the flurry of cards, it was his responsibility to protect the team and he didn't.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on October 13, 2019, 07:55:14 PM
when we refuse to foul attacks to slow down games

Pull stones.: foul attacks ? you ever play against a spanish team? They are notorious divers. Levi got bad calls and was sent off. The ref quick to blow 50-50 in their favor. But anyhow, our faith was already sealed.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini _2022 on October 14, 2019, 08:34:00 AM
So its official now we cannot advance . I was hoping martinique pull something off gosh well according to Djw in his last tv interview the WCQ format is not official yet because there is opposition.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: ffisback on October 14, 2019, 09:54:28 AM
So its official now we cannot advance . I was hoping martinique pull something off gosh well according to Djw in his last tv interview the WCQ format is not official yet because there is opposition.
At this rate we would not even get into the semi final rounds.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: FF on October 14, 2019, 11:20:53 AM
So its official now we cannot advance . I was hoping martinique pull something off gosh well according to Djw in his last tv interview the WCQ format is not official yet because there is opposition.


They go pull off something at home and we arse getting relegate to league B.
No Gold Cup. No World Cup. These men put we football back ten years.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 14, 2019, 11:29:39 AM
So its official now we cannot advance . I was hoping martinique pull something off gosh well according to Djw in his last tv interview the WCQ format is not official yet because there is opposition.


They go pull off something at home and we arse getting relegate to league B.
No Gold Cup. No World Cup. These men put we football back ten years.

Ten years is a conservative assessment.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on October 16, 2019, 07:42:17 PM
any links for the game tomorrow, TV, live stream anything?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: FF on October 16, 2019, 07:53:05 PM
What game boy?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: gawd on pitch on October 16, 2019, 07:59:48 PM
any links for the game tomorrow, TV, live stream anything?

Boy, yuh really want to see another game? I hoping we change DL and DJW gone by the next match.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on October 16, 2019, 08:26:18 PM
any links for the game tomorrow, TV, live stream anything?

Boy, yuh really want to see another game? I hoping we change DL and DJW gone by the next match.

Election Day is after the match date. They know what they're doing.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: vb on October 17, 2019, 09:41:25 PM
Was Joven Jones injured for the Honduras game?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 15, 2019, 02:35:52 AM
Now they have to go to honduras and grind out a win, I really don’t see that happening. but just maybe dennis could leave us with a good parting gift for the horror he put us through this past year, but im not banking on it.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 15, 2019, 03:06:44 AM
I could only hope that cyrus gets the bench on sunday. all he does is escort attacking players to his goal line, this is about the10th time I’ve seen him escort an opposing player to his front door, what a sloppy doltish defender he is.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 15, 2019, 11:09:02 AM
Wow. So many injuries and absentees i doubt very much we will beat this team on Sunday day without those key players. no molino no garcia no jovin no hyland no hackshaw which adds up to no gold cup.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 16, 2019, 03:16:28 AM
It must be a wonderful feeling to be a mexican fan, i just can’t imagine the feeling seeing all the years I’ve been watching TT play we always seem to struggle tremendously and has won nothing of any great significance.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: vb on November 16, 2019, 02:23:23 PM
If you read Wired 868 article from yesterday it seems that Joven and Molino made themselves absent.

Something happening between these fellahs and the Coach. Even in the Gc, he as hesitant to start with his two best players.

We need to be on the front foot and we are missing about four or five starters.
I hope Garcia is there and for God's sake play him on the left.

I was thinking how in the old days, we had so much depth in mdfld and up front, that even if Nakhid, Latas and Yorke were unavailable,we had men like Jughead, Dwarika, Wise, Leonsone, Marcelle and so many more to step up.

Honduras must have a broad fking smile on their face.

I see Lawrence likes a short passing game, it would be nice to see the ball pumped forward sometimes to make a quick counter..
Oh well at least Willis Plaza not there.

VB
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 16, 2019, 02:45:13 PM
I would like Nakhid to render his undiluted opinion on the matter of what ails the team.
Title: Jerrel Britto called up
Post by: Tallman on November 16, 2019, 03:25:53 PM
Trinidad and Tobago go for Gold Cup spot...Jerrel Britto called up
TTFA Media


Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s team will be going for broke when they face Honduras in their closing Concacaf Nations League qualifier at 6pm TT time (8pm in Honduras) at the Olimpico Metropolitano, San Pedro Sula.

The math is simple. Win and passage to the 2021 Concacaf Gold Cup is secured.

T&T went down 3-0 to Ecuador in a friendly on Thursday night in Portavielo but the main concentration will be on Sunday’s encounter. T&T’s last win over Honduras there was a 1-0 win courtesy of a Stern John winner in October, 2001 during the 2002 Concacaf World Cup qualifiers.

“We know exactly what the task ahead is in terms of what we need to do. We are going to try and win the football match which will guarantee our qualification for the Gold Cup,” Lawrence told TTFA Media.

“We’ve had our challenges but the important thing is we are here as a group and the players maintain that desire to pull of what it takes to keep moving us forward. The game will not be an easy one because why, Honduras are at home and they will want to end on a good record and surely will not make it easy for us. But in saying that, we have a task to take care of and we’ll approach it in the best possible manner to try and achieve what we need to,” Lawrence added.

The T&T team is missing several injured and suspended players including Neveal Hackshaw, Khaleem Hyland, Rundell Winchester, Leston Paul, Alvin Jones, Levi Garcia, Mekeil Williams and Kevan George who is also carrying a back injury, while Kevin Molino and Joevin Jones are also out.

Additionally, Lawrence’s squad arrived in Honduras without six players from the Ecuador match. Upon check-in for the departure flight to San Salvador en route to San Pedro Sula, airline officials informed the management team that the yellow fever vaccination cards were not eligible to allow travel for the following players – Nicklas Frenderup, Andre Fortune, Daniel Carr and Duane Muckette while Keston Julien regrettably left his vaccination card in Slovakia.

Honduras-based forward Jerrel Britto has been drafted into the current 18-man squad.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 16, 2019, 03:49:02 PM
If you read Wired 868 article from yesterday it seems that Joven and Molino made themselves absent.

Something happening between these fellahs and the Coach. Even in the Gc, he as hesitant to start with his two best players.

We need to be on the front foot and we are missing about four or five starters.
I hope Garcia is there and for God's sake play him on the left.

I was thinking how in the old days, we had so much depth in mdfld and up front, that even if Nakhid, Latas and Yorke were unavailable,we had men like Jughead, Dwarika, Wise, Leonsone, Marcelle and so many more to step up.

Honduras must have a broad fking smile on their face.

I see Lawrence likes a short passing game, it would be nice to see the ball pumped forward sometimes to make a quick counter..
Oh well at least Willis Plaza not there.


VB

vb what game u watchin d short passing is sideways and when dem fellas brain overheat is pumpin forward to an imaginary target, dem fellas not movin, every body just standing up....no communication.....no measurement of passes......no awareness.....no initiative....me and seeker was talking about an attacking player who coulda rob ah opposing player of d ball from his blindside and d f**kah never move....even opined dat pre gunshot "ball pess" was tiefin dat......
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 16, 2019, 04:42:55 PM
If anyone is up for it, you can make it to San Pedro Sula for $50 from Houston tomorrow morning and take in Britto bussin de net.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 16, 2019, 04:47:22 PM
Quote
Additionally, Lawrence’s squad arrived in Honduras without six players from the Ecuador match. Upon check-in for the departure flight to San Salvador en route to San Pedro Sula, airline officials informed the management team that the yellow fever vaccination cards were not eligible to allow travel for the following players – Nicklas Frenderup, Andre Fortune, Daniel Carr and Duane Muckette while Keston Julien regrettably left his vaccination card in Slovakia.

Amateurism writ large.
Title: Re: Jerrel Britto called up
Post by: pull stones on November 16, 2019, 05:22:44 PM
Trinidad and Tobago go for Gold Cup spot...Jerrel Britto called up
TTFA Media


Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s team will be going for broke when they face Honduras in their closing Concacaf Nations League qualifier at 6pm TT time (8pm in Honduras) at the Olimpico Metropolitano, San Pedro Sula.

The math is simple. Win and passage to the 2021 Concacaf Gold Cup is secured.

T&T went down 3-0 to Ecuador in a friendly on Thursday night in Portavielo but the main concentration will be on Sunday’s encounter. T&T’s last win over Honduras there was a 1-0 win courtesy of a Stern John winner in October, 2001 during the 2002 Concacaf World Cup qualifiers.

“We know exactly what the task ahead is in terms of what we need to do. We are going to try and win the football match which will guarantee our qualification for the Gold Cup,” Lawrence told TTFA Media.

“We’ve had our challenges but the important thing is we are here as a group and the players maintain that desire to pull of what it takes to keep moving us forward. The game will not be an easy one because why, Honduras are at home and they will want to end on a good record and surely will not make it easy for us. But in saying that, we have a task to take care of and we’ll approach it in the best possible manner to try and achieve what we need to,” Lawrence added.

The T&T team is missing several injured and suspended players including Neveal Hackshaw, Khaleem Hyland, Rundell Winchester, Leston Paul, Alvin Jones, Levi Garcia, Mekeil Williams and Kevan George who is also carrying a back injury, while Kevin Molino and Joevin Jones are also out.

Additionally, Lawrence’s squad arrived in Honduras without six players from the Ecuador match. Upon check-in for the departure flight to San Salvador en route to San Pedro Sula, airline officials informed the management team that the yellow fever vaccination cards were not eligible to allow travel for the following players – Nicklas Frenderup, Andre Fortune, Daniel Carr and Duane Muckette while Keston Julien regrettably left his vaccination card in Slovakia.

Honduras-based forward Jerrel Britto has been drafted into the current 18-man squad.
wow, well look how we dead now. the players that left can’t even beat a Honduran C team. no hex no gold cup and no caribbean cup, for the next 3 years it’s gonna be a bunch of friendlies. thank you DJW and dennis lawrence,we will never forget you.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: FF on November 16, 2019, 05:44:20 PM
Quote
Additionally, Lawrence’s squad arrived in Honduras without six players from the Ecuador match. Upon check-in for the departure flight to San Salvador en route to San Pedro Sula, airline officials informed the management team that the yellow fever vaccination cards were not eligible to allow travel for the following players – Nicklas Frenderup, Andre Fortune, Daniel Carr and Duane Muckette while Keston Julien regrettably left his vaccination card in Slovakia.

Amateurism writ large.


Well well well. I thought the Anguilla political football was the perfect capper for this admin...  They keep showing how low they could really limbo
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 16, 2019, 06:25:10 PM
Despite the number of things that have happened since the Ecuador match was whistled into the international friendly history book, the need for another "hastily arranged" press conference seems not to have been made "pellucidly clear" to the man whose self-proclaimed destiny it has been to lead the TTFA into the wilderness.

El Salvador Required Vaccines Yellow Fever (https://www.iamat.org/country/el-salvador/risk/yellow-fever#riskcountries)

 Honduras Required Vaccines Yellow Fever (https://www.iamat.org/country/honduras/risk/yellow-fever)
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: soccerman on November 16, 2019, 06:40:12 PM
We have a team doctor on board, maybe he can find the vaccination on the El Salvadorian black market....
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Dinner Mints on November 16, 2019, 06:51:30 PM
Britto finally get call cause they in he backyard? Doh know what I’d do under them circumstances, nah.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on November 16, 2019, 06:58:38 PM
I see Lawrence likes a short passing game, it would be nice to see the ball pumped forward sometimes to make a quick counter..

vb, men will call you mad. " is only boom kick and long ball...."

There is nothing wrong with hitting the long ball. How it is used is the problem with our team. The problem is mainly with our defenders who on most occasions have to hoof the ball up to relieve constant pressure they keep getting. When the national team has good mids who have some control in the middle, then you tend to see a combination of both. Hart tenure had a good bit of short passing and long balls.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on November 16, 2019, 07:02:42 PM
It must be a wonderful feeling to be a mexican fan, i just can’t imagine the feeling seeing all the years I’ve been watching TT play we always seem to struggle tremendously and has won nothing of any great significance.

While that maybe true, read up 1974 WC why Mexico did not go to Germany.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on November 16, 2019, 07:10:24 PM
Britto finally get call cause they in he backyard? Doh know what I’d do under them circumstances, nah.

Wow, it has been a while for the dude. Good luck.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Flex on November 17, 2019, 02:37:39 AM
Weak Soca Warriors chase “Gold Cup” spot.
T&T Guardian Reports.


Trinidad and To­ba­go’s se­nior men’s team will be go­ing for broke when they face Hon­duras in the team's clos­ing Con­ca­caf Na­tions League qual­i­fi­er at 6 pm TT time (8 pm in Hon­duras) on Sun­day at the Olimpi­co Met­ro­pol­i­tano, San Pe­dro Su­la, Hon­duras.

The math is sim­ple. Win and pas­sage to the 2021 Con­ca­caf Gold Cup are se­cured.

T&T went down 3-0 to Ecuador in a friend­ly on Thurs­day night in Por­tavielo but the main con­cen­tra­tion will be to­day's en­counter. T&T’s last win over Hon­duras away from home was a 1-0 vic­to­ry cour­tesy of a Stern John win­ner in Oc­to­ber 2001 dur­ing the 2002 Con­ca­caf World Cup qual­i­fiers.

“We know ex­act­ly what the task ahead is in terms of what we need to do. We are go­ing to try and win the foot­ball match which will guar­an­tee our qual­i­fi­ca­tion for the Gold Cup,” T&T head coach Den­nis Lawrence told TTFA Me­dia.

“We’ve had our chal­lenges but the im­por­tant thing is we are here as a group and the play­ers main­tain that de­sire to pull of what it takes to keep mov­ing us for­ward. The game will not be an easy one be­cause why Hon­duras is at home and they will want to end on a good record and sure­ly will not make it easy for us. But in say­ing that, we have a task to take care of and we’ll ap­proach it in the best pos­si­ble man­ner to try and achieve what we need to,” Lawrence added.

The T&T team is miss­ing sev­er­al in­jured and sus­pend­ed play­ers in­clud­ing Ne­veal Hack­shaw, Khaleem Hy­land, Run­dell Win­ches­ter, Le­ston Paul, Alvin Jones, Levi Gar­cia, Mekeil Williams and Ke­van George who is al­so car­ry­ing a back in­jury, while Kevin Moli­no and Jo­evin Jones will al­so miss the match.

Ad­di­tion­al­ly, Lawrence’s squad ar­rived in Hon­duras with­out six play­ers from the Ecuador match. Up­on check-in for the de­par­ture flight to San Sal­vador en route to San Pe­dro Su­la, air­line of­fi­cials in­formed the man­age­ment team that the yel­low fever vac­ci­na­tion cards were not el­i­gi­ble to al­low trav­el for the fol­low­ing play­ers – Nick­las Fren­derup, An­dre For­tune, Daniel Carr and Du­ane Muck­ette while Ke­ston Julien re­gret­tably left his vac­ci­na­tion card in Slo­va­kia.

Hon­duras-based for­ward Jer­rel Brit­to has been draft­ed in­to the cur­rent 18-man squad.

RELATED NEWS

‘We need to dig deep’
By Jonathan Ramnanansingh (Newsday).


Lawrence turning attention towards Honduras clash…

T&T men’s football team coach Dennis Lawrence remains hopeful that his squad can bounce back from Wednesday’s 3-0 loss against Ecuador and return to winning ways when they battle Honduras in their final Concacaf Nations League qualifier tomorrow.

Lawrence lamented his most recent result, just days after thumping Anguilla 15-0.

However, he believes the T&T men’s team can produce a positive result against the Central Americans but must give it their all on game-day.

“We need to dig deep, we need to come together and we need to face what’s in front of us,” he said during Thursday’s post-match interview.

“I thought we came up against a very good team. They moved the ball well, technically a very good team. When you get these moments you got to dig deep and use all your resources.

“That’s why tonight we tried as best as possible to try and use the players wisely because I didn’t want to take the risk in some of them getting on the pitch.”

Lawrence admitted however, that the journey to Ecuador was a bit tedious and may have also had a slight impact on the team’s performance. The former national defender also stressed that injuries are currently hampering the team.

According to a TTFA media release, US-based midfielders Kevin Molino and Joevin Jones “chose to make themselves unavailable” for selection even though their Major League Soccer campaign recently came to a close.

Skipper Khaleem Hyland, Neveal Hackshaw and Rundell Winchester are also nursing injuries and will be unavailable for tomorrow’s clash.

“We need to improve,” Lawrence added. “It was difficult on our boys because the journey to get here wasn’t easy.

“Physically we struggled and our physical performance didn’t help us. I’m very disappointed with Khaleem’s injury because he was only meant to play 45 minutes (against Ecuador) and was unable to even get to that. Ataullah (Guerra) had to play longer than I wanted him too so it’s a bit of a concern. From an injury front, it’s a difficult one but we need to do now is roll our sleeves, go on to Honduras and we need to find a way. That’s football.”

All in all, Lawrence remained positive and welcomed the opportunities given to younger players who got a chance to get some minutes on the pitch on Thursday.

But, if the TT squad can produce a positive result tomorrow, they will advance to the 2021 Concacaf Gold Cup.

However, if they lose, not only would they miss out on a place to next year’s Gold Cup, but they would also be relegated to the Concacaf second tier.

He noted, “I was pleased how we tactically managed the game. I wasn’t pleased the way we conceded three goals.

“I thought they were very cheap goals in particular the third one, (us) with the ball and then giving it away.”


Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: sjahrain on November 17, 2019, 08:35:00 AM
Lets face reality now we have had time to digest the weight of this folly...the chalice was poisoned from the begining of the tenue of this current administration...and today as we weep over what could have been...shock is not an issue of this reality....look how far we fell...considering we tied Mexico twice 4..4 in the Gold cup and 3..3 in a friendly couple weeks later...with Hart at the control...can anyone step up and say it or even imagine such a result is possible today...sorry the chalice is poisened and it is what it is...time for an attempt and a fresh start in a different direction
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 17, 2019, 09:32:46 AM
Weak Soca Warriors chase “Gold Cup” spot.
T&T Guardian Reports.


Trinidad and To­ba­go’s se­nior men’s team will be go­ing for broke when they face Hon­duras in the team's clos­ing Con­ca­caf Na­tions League qual­i­fi­er at 6 pm TT time (8 pm in Hon­duras) on Sun­day at the Olimpi­co Met­ro­pol­i­tano, San Pe­dro Su­la, Hon­duras.

The math is sim­ple. Win and pas­sage to the 2021 Con­ca­caf Gold Cup are se­cured.

T&T went down 3-0 to Ecuador in a friend­ly on Thurs­day night in Por­tavielo but the main con­cen­tra­tion will be to­day's en­counter. T&T’s last win over Hon­duras away from home was a 1-0 vic­to­ry cour­tesy of a Stern John win­ner in Oc­to­ber 2001 dur­ing the 2002 Con­ca­caf World Cup qual­i­fiers.

“We know ex­act­ly what the task ahead is in terms of what we need to do. We are go­ing to try and win the foot­ball match which will guar­an­tee our qual­i­fi­ca­tion for the Gold Cup,” T&T head coach Den­nis Lawrence told TTFA Me­dia.

“We’ve had our chal­lenges but the im­por­tant thing is we are here as a group and the play­ers main­tain that de­sire to pull of what it takes to keep mov­ing us for­ward. The game will not be an easy one be­cause why Hon­duras is at home and they will want to end on a good record and sure­ly will not make it easy for us. But in say­ing that, we have a task to take care of and we’ll ap­proach it in the best pos­si­ble man­ner to try and achieve what we need to,” Lawrence added.

The T&T team is miss­ing sev­er­al in­jured and sus­pend­ed play­ers in­clud­ing Ne­veal Hack­shaw, Khaleem Hy­land, Run­dell Win­ches­ter, Le­ston Paul, Alvin Jones, Levi Gar­cia, Mekeil Williams and Ke­van George who is al­so car­ry­ing a back in­jury, while Kevin Moli­no and Jo­evin Jones will al­so miss the match.

Ad­di­tion­al­ly, Lawrence’s squad ar­rived in Hon­duras with­out six play­ers from the Ecuador match. Up­on check-in for the de­par­ture flight to San Sal­vador en route to San Pe­dro Su­la, air­line of­fi­cials in­formed the man­age­ment team that the yel­low fever vac­ci­na­tion cards were not el­i­gi­ble to al­low trav­el for the fol­low­ing play­ers – Nick­las Fren­derup, An­dre For­tune, Daniel Carr and Du­ane Muck­ette while Ke­ston Julien re­gret­tably left his vac­ci­na­tion card in Slo­va­kia.

Hon­duras-based for­ward Jer­rel Brit­to has been draft­ed in­to the cur­rent 18-man squad.
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Trinidad and Tobago go for Gold Cup spot...Jerrel Britto called up
TTFA Media


Trinidad and Tobago’s senior men’s team will be going for broke when they face Honduras in their closing Concacaf Nations League qualifier at 6pm TT time (8pm in Honduras) at the Olimpico Metropolitano, San Pedro Sula.

The math is simple. Win and passage to the 2021 Concacaf Gold Cup is secured.

T&T went down 3-0 to Ecuador in a friendly on Thursday night in Portavielo but the main concentration will be on Sunday’s encounter. T&T’s last win over Honduras there was a 1-0 win courtesy of a Stern John winner in October, 2001 during the 2002 Concacaf World Cup qualifiers.

“We know exactly what the task ahead is in terms of what we need to do. We are going to try and win the football match which will guarantee our qualification for the Gold Cup,” Lawrence told TTFA Media.

“We’ve had our challenges but the important thing is we are here as a group and the players maintain that desire to pull of what it takes to keep moving us forward. The game will not be an easy one because why, Honduras are at home and they will want to end on a good record and surely will not make it easy for us. But in saying that, we have a task to take care of and we’ll approach it in the best possible manner to try and achieve what we need to,” Lawrence added.

The T&T team is missing several injured and suspended players including Neveal Hackshaw, Khaleem Hyland, Rundell Winchester, Leston Paul, Alvin Jones, Levi Garcia, Mekeil Williams and Kevan George who is also carrying a back injury, while Kevin Molino and Joevin Jones are also out.

Additionally, Lawrence’s squad arrived in Honduras without six players from the Ecuador match. Upon check-in for the departure flight to San Salvador en route to San Pedro Sula, airline officials informed the management team that the yellow fever vaccination cards were not eligible to allow travel for the following players – Nicklas Frenderup, Andre Fortune, Daniel Carr and Duane Muckette while Keston Julien regrettably left his vaccination card in Slovakia.

Honduras-based forward Jerrel Britto has been drafted into the current 18-man squad.

Really?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: madness on November 17, 2019, 11:31:20 AM
what is the hidden issue with the US based Major League player such as Kevin Molino and Joevin Jones
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Dinner Mints on November 17, 2019, 11:39:03 AM
what is the hidden issue with the US based Major League player such as Kevin Molino and Joevin Jones
https://wired868.com/2019/11/17/joevin-i-was-never-treated-fairly-warriors-winger-reveals-why-he-snubbed-lawrence-call-up/
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: ffisback on November 17, 2019, 01:40:59 PM
One would figure without K Molino that M Woo Ling would be given the chance to play the #10 role instead DL went with K Hyland playing the #10 role this guy tenure could not come to a end fast enough.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: ffisback on November 17, 2019, 01:45:29 PM
Lets face reality now we have had time to digest the weight of this folly...the chalice was poisoned from the begining of the tenue of this current administration...and today as we weep over what could have been...shock is not an issue of this reality....look how far we fell...considering we tied Mexico twice 4..4 in the Gold cup and 3..3 in a friendly couple weeks later...with Hart at the control...can anyone step up and say it or even imagine such a result is possible today...sorry the chalice is poisened and it is what it is...time for an attempt and a fresh start in a different direction
The problem is that S Hart could not beat these teams either !!
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 17, 2019, 02:08:35 PM
One would figure without K Molino that M Woo Ling would be given the chance to play the #10 role instead DL went with K Hyland playing the #10 role this guy tenure could not come to a end fast enough.

This was coming. Took you a while.  :)
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Sam on November 17, 2019, 04:19:02 PM
If I was Jerrel Britto I would never go, he get call only because Lawrence had no choice.

Honduras go wok we.

No vac­ci­na­tion, no VISA, same shit different pile.


Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: sjahrain on November 17, 2019, 04:32:29 PM
Just when l thought..it could not get worse...it did... :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead:
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: soccerman on November 17, 2019, 04:38:15 PM
Did the game start?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Anbrat on November 17, 2019, 04:58:31 PM
Any link streaming the game?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: bingie man on November 17, 2019, 05:20:33 PM
try this when its time I'm looking as well https://sportsbay.org stroll down
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 05:47:38 PM
Just when l thought..it could not get worse...it did... :banginghead: :banginghead: :banginghead:
I guess you haven’t been watching TT football long enough. I went through it with Dwight and russell being snubbed, if not mistaking I believe potterfield was the coach, and then simones and then st clair snubbing a few players. trinidad football is a heart wrenching endeavor, it’s like have drunken drug addicts for parents,there’s absolutely nothing to look forward too.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 05:55:31 PM
I hope jovin and Kevin know that after this game lawrence will not have a job, and of course he will be a plane to Belgium where a job is waiting for him, but there’s still national service to be had, and when we lose tonight it equals no hex, no gold cup and no caribbean cup either.

they could have each bite the bullet for the sake of the nation, because they not punnishing dennis nor DJW, but the fans who would have nothing to look forward too in the coming years and months. I’m very disappointed in them both, this was very very jacked up thinking,this is the man’s last game in lose or draw, what a stupid stupid emotional thoughtless decision. real disappointing decision.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 06:03:19 PM
I bet you anything hyland and Alvin Jones faining injury, now it’s clear, the carenage crew is at it again, I hope the next coach whoever he is just scrap this team and start with no one over 25 yrs old, and none of these carenage boys, since they were the ones who was sabotaging the team under coach hart, maybe you guys forgot but i didn’t.

we missed out on the copa and the gold cup because molino and mikel Williams break camp and opted for a boat ride, coach hart was forced to exclude them both with molino being a very integral part of our attack. I don’t care who you are, no one is bigger than the team, not even the coach.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: fitzinho on November 17, 2019, 06:17:42 PM
You do realize Hyland had been injured last time representing T&T and Dennis himself said he wasn't supposed to play a full half. Don't be so eager to accuse players.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 06:18:32 PM
Good luck to the lads tonight who had the temerity to take on this arduous task, I hope you are rewarded with a victory tonight. I pray that Marcus joseph, attulla guerra, ryan telfer, jomol williams, jarrel brito and young mathew woo ling find the courage to play a game of their lives tonight, just like they did against the usa at the ato boldon stadium in 2017.

we don’t need players who’s not up for the task, but real f**king warriors! once in a life time we’ve showed this fighting spirit and we need to show it again tonight and we did it without molino, kenwin jones, jovin jones, hyland, and all these big names and we can do it again. for once in your life be warriors again if you are to be using the name.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 06:19:11 PM
Any link streaming the game?
the game is on Univision .
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: sjahrain on November 17, 2019, 06:20:45 PM
Been watchin too long...its the same old story...just a different version
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: vb on November 17, 2019, 06:23:44 PM
try this when its time I'm looking as well https://sportsbay.org stroll down


Do you need a membership?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 06:24:22 PM
You do realize Hyland had been injured last time representing T&T and Dennis himself said he wasn't supposed to play a full half. Don't be so eager to accuse players.
do you know what faining means? and i was also speculating, nothing’s for certain. in case you haven’t been paying attention, i know this crew and those guys are more trouble than they’re worth. ever wondered why hart went from winning to losing constantly? they stick together in case you don’t know, they even drink bush for each other’s fever. stay tuned there’s more.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: sjahrain on November 17, 2019, 06:30:51 PM
Pull stones...every man has a limit...when it cines to bull shit...check it
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: bingie man on November 17, 2019, 06:41:31 PM
http://www.lshunters.tv/soccer hopefully this one works
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: vb on November 17, 2019, 06:45:06 PM
is the match at 10 pm TT time. Correct?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: fitzinho on November 17, 2019, 06:48:42 PM
I have no idea what "faining" means. Pretty sure it's not a word but feel free to enlighten me.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 17, 2019, 06:51:45 PM
Of Lost Balls and Lost Causes, Honduras vs Trinidad and Tobago, and the Presidential Future
By Chambi Sey


In matches separated by a two day recovery period, two thousand kilometers and multiple hours of travel, Dennis Lawrence, and his iteration of the Soca Warriors, will in succession have faced two coaches with accomplished records at national team age group level prior to being granted the maximum responsibility at national team level. Both Fabian Coito and Jorge Celico have won the South American U-20 Championship and both have progressed to graduated successes at World Cup level in the same age group. Although all three coaches are novitiates at senior national team level, unlike his counterparts, Lawrence lacks a formative experience as a junior national team coach and the directly imputed processes that accompany and distinguish the national team coaching and managerial environment from that of club football.

Of the three coaches, Lawrence has accumulated more games in the senior national team role than his colleagues --- more than twice that of Coito and at least quadruple those of Celico; yet, of the trio, Lawrence has the most inferior record. It points, perhaps, to the relevant significance of prior executive experience. Before stepping into the role with Honduras, Coito amassed more than 70 matches as a head coach at junior national team level, in addition to a brief managerial tenure at club level. Celico, a transplanted Argentine coach and sporting director associated with player development in Ecuador for many years, holds over 200 professional club matches under his technical direction, in addition to dozens of matches on the youth pro league circuit in his homeland and in his adopted country, and on the junior national team level.

Coito has incrementally been a national team manager at U-15, U-17, U-19, U-20 and U-22/23 level for more than a decade and also has served as interim coach of Uruguay’s senior team during a period when that nation’s legendary coach, Oscar Tabarez, was engaged in contract negotiations with federation officials. Serving in this latter capacity is a considerable recognition of Coito’s standing and ability. El Maestro Tabarez in 2019 achieved 200 matches directing Uruguay’s senior national team and became the first coach to achieve that milestone across all FIFA participating countries. On paper Coito is a definitive candidate to emerge into the coaching role with Uruguay when Tabarez’s permanent descent from the responsibility occurs.

Arguably, Coito’s leadership of Honduras provides him with the complete preparatory experience to render unassailable his presumptive appointment as Uruguay national team coach. He has won the U-17 and U-20 CONMEBOL tournaments, the 2015 Pan-American Games (Uruguay were grouped with Trinidad and Tobago) and has earned two medals at U-17 and U-20 World Cup level. Notably, his teams have failed to progress to the quarterfinal round of tournaments on only one occasion. Similarly, Celico played an instrumental role in the formation of professional players at Universidad Católica and his work product across all levels has earned him interest from the Panamanian federation, Huracán in Argentina and two clubs in Ecuador, all of which he has reportedly turned down, or placed on hold, in deference to permanently securing the national team job with Ecuador.

In Celico’s assessment of Trinidad and Tobago’s performance versus Ecuador, he opined that the Soca Warriors were unable to attack due to Ecuador’s superior tactical positioning and applied effort to recovering the ball upon losses of possession. He also suggested that Trinidad and Tobago suffered physically from not maintaining possession and that this aspect of the match transcended into the psychological component of football because the visitors were mentally impacted by not having the ball, by not keeping the ball and by involuntarily having to chase and defend it. Match statistics show that Ecuador possessed the ball by the superior ratio of 2:1 and rendered a pass accuracy of 89%. The only statistical category in which Trinidad and Tobago was superior was that of fouls and cardable offences.

Although there was near parity in possession in the first leg encounter versus the catrachos there was a notable gap in shots and shots on target, just as occurred against Ecuador. Indeed, this phenomenon has persisted as a perennial concern under Lawrence. Regarding the first leg, Coito has repeatedly noted that the Hasely Crawford Stadium field was heavy on his players' legs and that his team considered this factor in the style of play adopted. Without a doubt, Honduras will be more comfortable playing at home.

Nevertheless, physiological concerns are likely to become a heightened consideration in the second leg battle and Honduras has managed this aspect of match preparation more astutely than Trinidad and Tobago. It would not be an overstatement to suggest that the Hondurans are confident of victory going into tonight's encounter and believe that they have ascertained the proper measure of a weak,  wounded and travel-exposed opponent. A day before the match, Coito decided to return seven players from the squad to their respective clubs. These players were Alex Güity from Olimpia, Marathón defender Bryan Barrios, defender Danilo Tobías and forward Darixon Vuelto from Real España, midfielder Hector Castellanos and defender Marcelo Pereira of Motagua and United States-based forward  Douglas Martinez from Real Monarchs. The reduction in the squad left 26 players in the Honduran camp. However, it should be noted that Coito thoughtfully did not travel to Martinique, for Honduras' first match during the FIFA window, with several key elements of the starting team that is expected to take to the field tonight against Trinidad and Tobago. Honduras travelled to Fort-de-France with 18 players and five of the seven players who were returned to their clubs were part of that traveling contingent. While most of tonight's prospective Honduran starters were rested and cautiously managed, Lawrence's attempt to protect the physical load on his players was impacted both by circumstance and seemingly inadequate logistics.

The initial XI for Honduras is anticipated to be Buba Lopez in goal, Felix Crisanto at right back accompanied by Denil Maldonado, Maynor Figueroa as skipper and the gifted Ever Alvarado who brings tight marking, solid positioning and aerial authority to his assignments. In advance of these players Carlos Pineda, Alexander Lopez and Jonathan Rubio and Rubilio Castillo are expected to be deployed. Also included in the projected mix are likely Brayan Moya, who conducts the ball at speed with informed control and who is favored to drop to participate in Honduras' build up movements, and the dynamic and incisively dangerous Alberth Elis.

In one sense Trinidad and Tobago should be at home in Honduras. The morning’s headlines read as indistinguishably violent. Five persons pronounced dead after a shooting in San Pedro Sula outside a bar. Not being satisfied with killing three of the victims near the premises of the establishment, the assassins ventured to the hospital to which surviving victims were transported and shot the other two fatalities on the stretchers on which they lay. Another incident, a shootout elsewhere in the country, left three persons dead and a fourth person wounded following an argument that ensued between the driver of a coffee-transporting commercial vehicle that was obstructed in its path and the driver of the allegedly obstructing passenger car. The dispute led to both drivers discharging their weapons.

One of Trinidad and Tobago’s most notable successes in Central America in recent time occurred in Guatemala four years ago this past week during the last World Cup qualification cycle. On that occasion one of the team’s attempts to arrive at the assigned practice venue was frustrated by a homicide that impacted the normal traffic pattern. If nothing else, it would be serendipitous and metaphorical if the Soca Warriors could duplicate that 2-1 victory and impede the fatal blow of being eliminated from qualifying from the proximate edition of the Gold Cup.

If football is truly a vehicle for social change, temperance, tolerance and the instilment of human values, there’s no clearer impetus in Honduras and Trinidad and Tobago than to set about  fulfilling that mission in the trenches. Impunity and the callous disregard for life risk sapping away at football's most valuable resource - people. Everyone is affected by these events despite the "brave face" façade of immunity.

Regarding values Coito has been clear. He’s stated: “We give a lot of importance to respect ... respect towards teammates, towards the officials, towards the functioning of the group and squad, towards the referee, towards the opponent. And when in a footballer this does not exist, we can’t keep him within the squad.” His comments lead us to consider the disposition of the Trinidad and Tobago national team player and the culture of values within the national team and the national federation. Once again there are indications that all is not well within the national team edifice and all stakeholders must be invested and dedicated to ensuring that the appropriate values and reflections of the federation as an institution are transmitted from top to bottom on a daily basis, rather than for media consumption and electoral convenience.

Unlike the poorly attended match in Portoviejo, the stands in San Pedro Sula promise to be brimming with somewhat more domestic support and while Trinidad and Tobago may or may not qualify for the Gold Cup, it shall survive either eventuality, lost cause or not. Nonetheless, surviving does not mean moving forward in self-deception. It must be accepted, rather than deflected, that a correlation with results and past decisions exists.

Consequently, the foregoing treatment of the comparative national team career trajectories of the coaches mentioned erodes David John-Williams’ deluded narrative regarding the efficacy and remit of a federation’s Technical Committee vis-à-vis the overriding actions of a Board of Directors in the selection of a national team coach and underscores that relative to footballing nations with a studious approach to progressing national teams, Dennis Lawrence’s placement into the role was prescriptively premature and unsupported by a body of work that was his own, despite his undoubtedly accomplished background in the game and supremely credible credentials.

The wisdom to discern is an invaluable asset that must be shown consistently by a national federation president. The necessity of an improved physical infrastructural base for national football is undeniable, but it does not constitute the overarching or primordial element of good governance. As I recall the victory against Guatemala, I also recall the disquiet in the stadium by Guatemalan fans when Khaleem Hyland pummeled the ball into the back of the net. Fans in the stands immediately stood up and started vigorously denouncing a federation official who promptly and wisely stood up and decided to depart that area. I recall also an insistent complaint from Guatemalan officials that they were unable to find a half dozen balls of the complement of balls that had been provided to Trinidad and Tobago for pre-match warm-up. As the complaint unfolded, it was instructive to observe how William Wallace treated and contributed to quelling the matter. If he brings an iota of that sort of tempered discernment to the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association, the recalibration of standards and expectations that must occur in the current institutional culture and values are slated to make a quantum and civic leap.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: vb on November 17, 2019, 07:04:52 PM
working link plz
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: bingie man on November 17, 2019, 07:06:11 PM
https://www.twitch.tv/peloncito_?fbclid=IwAR1Xim5iEYJculZFaN0rBvinUPS6StyNgtG5BjVoThXxVUJ9RPKqkJsVTe4
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 07:11:15 PM
http://firstrowsportes.net/soccer/honduras-trinidad-tobago-krk74a069?l=3123487477 clean signal but use ad blocker right click "close" to new tab remove "x" from button to top.

as I type 1-0 hon
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on November 17, 2019, 07:13:30 PM
5': Honduras 1-0 Trinidad and Tobago. Goal scored by Jonathan Toro.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 17, 2019, 07:13:42 PM
League B here we come
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 07:18:55 PM
All who love to defend marvin phillip, please tell me if this bloke is international material, please explain nah please?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: grskywalker on November 17, 2019, 07:21:38 PM
Once again we give up a stupid goal due to inept defending we should have put in 2 already
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: g on November 17, 2019, 07:22:32 PM
Like our players want to fight each other yes
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: grskywalker on November 17, 2019, 07:24:13 PM
We have no movement up front or off the ball so the ball getting held up and killing the momentum
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 07:24:56 PM
Akeem Andrews have some nice touches boy.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: grskywalker on November 17, 2019, 07:26:01 PM
There we go again shitty defending  OMG OMG simple goal again we are so fff@#@$ing shitty omg!!! :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: grskywalker on November 17, 2019, 07:27:38 PM
Akeem Andrews have some nice touches boy.

ARE YOU SERIOUS AND THEN TO WHO!
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on November 17, 2019, 07:28:03 PM
20': Honduras 2-0 Trinidad and Tobago. Goal scored by Brayan Moya.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 17, 2019, 07:28:10 PM
2 -0..

I hope Honduras destroys this team. Time for DL to go. DJW deserves a kick in the balls.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 07:31:05 PM
Still not marvin’s fault, the keeper that can’t keep a clean sheet?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 07:35:34 PM
Still not marvin’s fault, the keeper that can’t keep a clean sheet?
oh f**k shot yuh c**t already nah d entire defensive structure in pure shit Marvin is shit yes but what in front has been equally shit steups
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: g on November 17, 2019, 07:37:46 PM
The sad part is, Honduras cyah defend either, we just poor in the attacking third
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: grskywalker on November 17, 2019, 07:39:57 PM
All we ever ffing do is back off, take pressure hope for long ball and lose the ball, every friggin game  is the same shit, we can never maintain any possession
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 07:41:58 PM
Like guerra bloody diet consist of crix and cheese or what? why the he’ll can’t he stay on his feet?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 17, 2019, 07:42:46 PM
Still not marvin’s fault, the keeper that can’t keep a clean sheet?

Even with a washer and a box of tide, he cyan keep a clean sheet
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 07:43:11 PM
dis shit real heartbreaking and DJW doing all he can to hold power and people prepared to vote for dat.....my word
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 07:47:20 PM
I have no idea what "faining" means. Pretty sure it's not a word but feel free to enlighten me.
you figure it out, maybe the spelling is wrong, but I’m sure you understand sound.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 07:50:38 PM
Akeem Andrews have some nice touches boy.

ARE YOU SERIOUS AND THEN TO WHO!
he has some skill bro, don’t kill me for that. some of you here are so touchy. geez it’s “SOCIAL” media not anti social interaction.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 17, 2019, 07:51:38 PM
 Penalty.. guess for who
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 07:51:56 PM
Still not marvin’s fault, the keeper that can’t keep a clean sheet?
oh f**k shot yuh c**t already nah d entire defensive structure in pure shit Marvin is shit yes but what in front has been equally shit steups
and your mudda c**t too asshole! f**king fussy! I’m sick of you.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 07:52:14 PM
this defense boy total total assness dat penalty
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 07:53:57 PM
Still not marvin’s fault, the keeper that can’t keep a clean sheet?
oh f**k shot yuh c**t already nah d entire defensive structure in pure shit Marvin is shit yes but what in front has been equally shit steups
and your muddy c**t too asshole! f**king fussy!
and what d f**k yuh call dat penalty numb skull go f**k yuhself
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 07:55:25 PM
bloody concacaf Spanish referees what do you expect.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 17, 2019, 07:55:44 PM
Ok. Now what else can DJW and DL say to justify this?

If yuh like bacchanal, watch the run up until November 24th. I expecting DJW to stoop to an all tine low in the coming days.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 07:56:31 PM
bloody concacaf Spanish referees what do you expect.

you real delusional with yuh bias boy wais
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on November 17, 2019, 07:56:41 PM
HALF-TIME: Honduras 3-0 Trinidad and Tobago. Goals by Jonathan Toro (5'), Brayan Moya (20'), and Alberth Ellis (45'+2, penalty).
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 07:59:28 PM
Still not marvin’s fault, the keeper that can’t keep a clean sheet?
oh f**k shot yuh c**t already nah d entire defensive structure in pure shit Marvin is shit yes but what in front has been equally shit steups
and your muddy c**t too asshole! f**king fussy!
and what d f**k yuh call dat penalty numb skull go f**k yuhself
go fix your maxi pad you little slag, it’s not my fault this pick up side is losing. how dare you try to take out your frustration on me, go kill yourself!
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: grskywalker on November 17, 2019, 08:00:48 PM
Signing off guys this is more of the same shit we have been seeing for the last 3 yrs under Lawrence! Our ranking continues it's free fall to the bottom
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Dinner Mints on November 17, 2019, 08:00:59 PM
That wasn't no penalty but they shoulda get one for de hand ball so it even out.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 08:01:43 PM
bloody concacaf Spanish referees what do you expect.

you real delusional with yuh bias boy wais
dont get it twisted mate, this callaloo trini could cuss real stink, if you take me there I’ll certainly tell you where to get off you little bitch boy.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Jayerson on November 17, 2019, 08:03:46 PM
I should get a refund of my $1.99 for this drivel I am watching. On and off the field we are a shambles. Telfer looks like one of the few players who is ready for Concacaf Football. This is madness.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: trini_stallion on November 17, 2019, 08:05:27 PM
Hopefully this is DL last game as head coach. What a shame
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 17, 2019, 08:05:41 PM
That wasn't no penalty but they shoulda get one for de hand ball so it even out.

No doubt.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 08:06:50 PM
That wasn't no penalty but they shoulda get one for de hand ball so it even out.
dont tell that to some of these armchair coaches who never even supported a home town team in their entire lives, they think they invented the game. all they know is Madrid, barca , chelsea, United and inter milan, bloody glory hunting supporters.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 17, 2019, 08:07:19 PM
Hopefully this is DL last game as head coach. What a shame

By any sensible assessment, but he's been speaking very much in a long-term voice.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 08:09:07 PM
Hopefully this is DL last game as head coach. What a shame
it is mate, even before the game started. DJW days were numbered after the last gold cup and Wallace is definitely trying to bring back hart as we speak.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 17, 2019, 08:12:52 PM
2 -0..

I hope Honduras destroys this team. Time for DL to go. DJW deserves a kick in the balls.

15-0 might finally appeal to their understanding of what time it is.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: fitzinho on November 17, 2019, 08:15:38 PM
bloody concacaf Spanish referees what do you expect.

you real delusional with yuh bias boy wais
dont get it twisted mate, this calloo trini could cuss real stink, if you take me there I’ll certainly tell you where to get off you little bitch boy.

Why are you so angry??  :o :rotfl:
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 08:16:08 PM
Still not marvin’s fault, the keeper that can’t keep a clean sheet?
oh f**k shot yuh c**t already nah d entire defensive structure in pure shit Marvin is shit yes but what in front has been equally shit steups
and your muddy c**t too asshole! f**king fussy!
and what d f**k yuh call dat penalty numb skull go f**k yuhself
go fix your maxi pad you little slag, it’s not my fault this pick up side is losing. how dare you try to take out your frustration on me, go kill yourself!
I not try to take no frustration on you, yuh naggin like ah menstruating women about d same shit whole f**king time, yuh is miserable c**t who try to scapegoat one man for collective failure dat shit low brow so again go f**k yuhself with broom stick and dead some where
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 08:18:16 PM
Number 8 and 23 is killing the attack, subs needed ASAP.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on November 17, 2019, 08:19:55 PM
54': Honduras 4-0 Trinidad and Tobago. Goal scored by Alberth Ellis.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Jayerson on November 17, 2019, 08:20:08 PM
This is becoming embarrassing. This Honduran team has some decent players going forward but they're not that great defensively but we're making them look like world beaters now. 4 - 0.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 08:23:24 PM
and now Cyrus well game done
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 08:24:01 PM
and this big bottom number 10 bloke is our pro league’s top scorer? god save the queen.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 08:29:54 PM
We really want dis team playin in ah gold cup under this management we will be humiliated
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 08:31:40 PM
Ole\s now  :frustrated: :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 08:34:53 PM
TTFA facebook gone dark no updates whatsoever on this game
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 08:36:00 PM
bloody concacaf Spanish referees what do you expect.

you real delusional with yuh bias boy wais
dont get it twisted mate, this calloo trini could cuss real stink, if you take me there I’ll certainly tell you where to get off you little bitch boy.

Why are you so angry??  :o :rotfl:
im not, i just won’t let people like you say whatever you like and not respond, I’ve been very classy until tonight, I just wanted you armchair coaches to know i am no one’s anger receptacle.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 08:40:35 PM
Still not marvin’s fault, the keeper that can’t keep a clean sheet?
oh f**k shot yuh c**t already nah d entire defensive structure in pure shit Marvin is shit yes but what in front has been equally shit steups
and your muddy c**t too asshole! f**king fussy!
and what d f**k yuh call dat penalty numb skull go f**k yuhself
go fix your maxi pad you little slag, it’s not my fault this pick up side is losing. how dare you try to take out your frustration on me, go kill yourself!
I not try to take no frustration on you, yuh naggin like ah menstruating women about d same shit whole f**king time, yuh is miserable c**t who try to scapegoat one man for collective failure dat shit low brow so again go f**k yuhself with broom stick and dead some where
go tie a millstone around you and your whoring mother’s neck and jump in the bocas, and while you’re at it take a shot of lanate in case you miraculousy survive the fall.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Jayerson on November 17, 2019, 08:40:46 PM
Imagine, we're out of the 2022 World Cup in 2019.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 08:43:55 PM
Imagine, we're out of the 2022 World Cup in 2019.

we vote in a man with a pdf and snake written all over him
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 08:45:33 PM
f**k dis oui I going and feed my dogs
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 17, 2019, 08:46:39 PM
Imagine, we're out of the 2022 World Cup in 2019.

And 2026.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 08:47:17 PM
Ole\s now  :frustrated: :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
look who’s talking about complaining, you’ve been saying the same shit over and over, you better take your own advice asshole, and stop trying to play moderator, who the f**k do you think you are, bloody loser.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 08:50:01 PM
f**k dis oui I going and feed my dogs
my point you f**king cry baby armchair coach, go feed your dogs and then drink poison you Lilly livered fair weather supporter. no one will miss you.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 08:54:46 PM
f**k dis oui I going and feed my dogs
my point you f**king cry baby armchair coach, go feed your dogs and then drink poison you Lilly livered fair weather supporter. no one will miss you.
::) :P
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Anbrat on November 17, 2019, 08:57:30 PM
https://www.twitch.tv/peloncito_?fbclid=IwAR1Xim5iEYJculZFaN0rBvinUPS6StyNgtG5BjVoThXxVUJ9RPKqkJsVTe4
Thank you. It worked!
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on November 17, 2019, 08:57:58 PM
FINAL: Honduras 4-0 Trinidad and Tobago. Goals by Jonathan Toro (5'), Brayan Moya (20'), and Alberth Ellis (45'+2 penalty, 54').
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 09:01:55 PM
So now we are back to being the whipping boys of concacaf what’s next?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 09:05:15 PM
Can’t wait to hear the fat boss’s spin on this, I could hear him now. “Well we didn’t have our best players, we had injuries and losing players because of vaccination cards and we were tired and fatigued, but have no fear we almost there better days are on the horrizon”.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-201
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 09:13:18 PM



                             HOPFULLY IT’S THE END.  THAT’S ALL FOLKS!!
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: soccerman on November 17, 2019, 09:15:56 PM
It's evident now more than ever, poor administration produces poor results. A fresh start is needed.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 09:29:39 PM
It's evident now more than ever, poor administration produces poor results. A fresh start is needed.
1+
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 17, 2019, 09:31:34 PM
Can’t wait to hear the fat boss’s spin on this, I could hear him now. “Well we didn’t have our best players, we had injuries and losing players because of vaccination cards and we were tired and fatigued, but have no fear we almost there better days are on the horrizon”.

doh be so sure trinis selfish and bribeable as all f**k......wait for d vote
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: fitzinho on November 17, 2019, 09:43:28 PM
f**k dis oui I going and feed my dogs
my point you f**king cry baby armchair coach, go feed your dogs and then drink poison you Lilly livered fair weather supporter. no one will miss you.
::) :P

This man takes his trolling job waaay too seriously yes. :o
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 10:03:06 PM
f**k dis oui I going and feed my dogs
my point you f**king cry baby armchair coach, go feed your dogs and then drink poison you Lilly livered fair weather supporter. no one will miss you.
::) :P

This man takes his trolling job waaay too seriously yes. :o
please mate I’m not here to see you, I don’t even know who you are because I’ve never seen you on the forum ever, and maybe you were here years ago so you may think you have a right to talk crap to me based on some tribal ritualistic seniority jab, no mate it don’t quite work that way. all i have been here was very respectful to these members and seldom get into any screaming matches. so please let’s keep it the way it was.I don’t know you and don’t want to know you, and please don’t know me. believe me it’s better that way.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 17, 2019, 10:08:01 PM
BTW did anyone noticed that honduras did us dirty? they send a B team to martinique and saved their A team for a game that had no meaning since they already won the group when they defeated martinique at home. I hope those in charge taking note and one day dish out the same cold meal they served up.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: ZANDOLIE on November 18, 2019, 12:44:32 AM
Anyone with an ounce of personal integrity would step aside as head of a national federation, or as head coach in shame after this debacle. But I hear these men talking as though they are just getting started setting up things for the future, and its us the fans who are short sighted and selfish. AFAIC, Lawrence's heroics in 2005 have been superceded by his shambolic failures as a coach and a sense that he is entitled to carry on as usual regardless of performance/results. Its depressing to imagine where football will be in 4 years under a re-elected DJW tenureship.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Flex on November 18, 2019, 01:26:48 AM
T&T drubbed 4-0 by Honduras.
T&T Guardian Reports.


Trinidad and To­ba­go’s hopes of ad­vanc­ing to the next phase of the Con­ca­caf Na­tions League were shat­tered last night af­ter they were drubbed 4-0 by a well-oiled Hon­duras at the Es­ta­dio Olímpi­co Met­ro­pol­i­tano in Hon­duras.

A dou­ble from mid­field­er Al­berth Elis was more than enough to give the home side vic­to­ry and con­fine the So­ca War­riors to yet an­oth­er hu­mil­i­at­ing 4-0 loss in four days.

In a game in which T&T were put un­der de­fen­sive pres­sure from the first whis­tle by a slick Hon­duran mid­field which grabbed con­trol of the game, Elis first con­vert­ed a penal­ty in the sec­ond minute of time added on for stop­pages in the first half. Af­ter de­fend­er Aikim An­drews brought down Hon­duran winger Jonathan Toro­hia in the penal­ty area, Elis stepped up and buried a right-foot­ed shot in­to the bot­tom right-hand cor­ner of T&T goalie Mar­vin Phillip’s net to in­crease the ad­van­tage to 3-0.

Elis com­plet­ed his dou­ble in the 52-minute when he latched on­to a through ball from Toro­hia in­side the penal­ty area and un­leashed a right-foot­er which gave a now weary Phillip no chance again.

Toro­hia had ear­li­er giv­en Hon­duras the lead af­ter just five min­utes when he beat Phillip with a right-foot­er from just out­side the box off a free-kick.

In­flu­en­tial mid­field­er Brayan Moya, who pulled most of the strings in the mid­dle of the field for his team, then gave them a 2-0 cush­ion 15 min­utes lat­er with a left-foot­er in­side the penal­ty area off a feed from Félix Crisan­to.

T&T, beat­en 3-0 in a mid-week friend­ly by Ecuador, tried their best in the sec­ond half but sim­ply did not have the depth to launch a come­back. To add in­sult to in­jury, coach Den­nis Lawrence lost both Jo­mal Williams and Car­lyle Mitchell and to in­juries.

(Teams)

Trinidad and Tobago (4-2-3-1): 1.Marvin Phillip (GK); 18.Aikim Andrews, 2.Aubrey David, 4.Sheldon Bateau (captain), 3.Ross Russell Jr (12.Carlyle Mitchell 55 [5.Daneil Cyrus 69]); 23.Aaron Lester, 8.Kevon Goddard; 20.Jomal Williams (16.Jomoul Francois 74), 9.Ataulla Guerra, 11.Ryan Telfer; 10.Marcus Joseph.

Unused substitutes: 21.Glenroy Samuel (GK), 7.Nathan Lewis, 19.Matthew Woo Ling, 17.Jerrel Britto.

Coach: Dennis Lawrence

Honduras (4-2-1-3): 22.Luis Lopez (GK), 2.Félix Crisanto, 15.Denil Maldonado, 3.Maynor Figueroa (captain), 5.Éver Alvarado; 8.Carlos Pineda, 10.Alexander López; 13.Brayan Moya (20.Edwin Rodríguez 86); 17.Alberth Elis, 11.Rubilio Castillo, 12.Jonathan Toro Rubio (16.Rigoberto Rivas 78).

Unused substitutes: 1.Harold Fonseca (GK), 18.Jose Zúñiga (GK), 4.Marcelo Santos, 6.Bryan Acosta, 7.Emilio Izaguirre, 9.Jorge Benguché, 14.Kevin Arriaga, 19.Juan Ramón Mejía, 21.Kevin López, 23.Edwin Solano.

Coach: Fabián Coito

Concacaf Nations League Result

(Sunday 17 November 2019)

Honduras 4 (Jonathan Toro Rubio 5, Brayan Moya 20, Alberth Elis 45+1 pen, 53), Trinidad and Tobago 0 at San Pedro Sula.

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Honduras whip woeful T&T in Nations League.
By Joel Bailey (Newsday).


HONDURAS whipped a woeful T&T outfit 4-0  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJy4FeKCJY&feature=emb_title) last night, at the Olimpico Metropolitano, San Pedro Sula, Honduras, in their Concacaf Nations League, League A Group C encounter.

The Hondurans have qualified for both the Concacaf Nations League semi-finals and the 2021 Concacaf Gold Cup.

T&T, on the other hand, were relegated to League B and will enter the Gold Cup qualifying second round.

Honduras finished top of the three-team League A Group C with 10 points from four matches, followed by Martinique (three points) – who also qualified for the next Gold Cup, and T&T (two points).

For T&T coach Dennis Lawrence, this result mirrored Thursday’s 3-0 win away to Ecuador, in a friendly international. The T&T team, who recorded their largest ever victory last Sunday – 15-0 over Anguilla – hardly offered a threat on the offensive end, and their defence were routinely picked apart by their hosts.

It was virtually a new-look T&T team, with a number of players absent due to suspension, choice, injuries or inability to enter Honduras due to an issue with their vaccination cards.

Aikim Andrews, who plays as a midfielder with Terminix La Horquetta Rangers, was inserted as the right back by Lawrence, and the make-shift defender was culpable for Honduras’ opener, after five minutes.

Andrews chested a long-ball from a Honduras player and failed to spot a lurking Jonathan Rubio who took the loose ball and drilled a low right-footed shot, from the edge of the penalty box, to the right of goalkeeper Marvin Phillip.

Another full-back, Aubrey David, was left for dead by overlapping defender Felix Crisanto who made a run down the flank and squared the ball for Brayan Moya who slotted a left-footed effort to the bottom right-hand corner in the 20th minute.

Honduras virtually assured themselves of victory when Alberth Elis converted a penalty, in first half stoppage time, after Moya’s shirt was pulled, inside the box, by a hapless Andrews.

And Elis put the icing on the cake in the 54th minute. T&T’s captain Sheldon Bateau’s poor pass was intercepted by the midfield and the ball was relayed to Elis who was free as a bird as he strolled into the penalty box and finished with a powerful right-footed shot.

Marcus Joseph came close to getting an elusive goal for T&T, with a left-footed shot which forced a good save from Luis Lopez, after 61 minutes.

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on November 18, 2019, 01:56:11 AM
Let's see if  DeLeon and Bostock really want to play for TT now.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2019, 03:24:56 AM
Let's see if  DeLeon and Bostock really want to play for TT now.
there’s no World Cup and no gold cup to be had so i seriously doubt it. what the new administration should do if they are elected(knock on wood) is to get rid of the whole overage backl line. those guys are very slow as we saw last night where defenders were grabbing the Honduran players when beaten for pace. we need young smart agile speedy defenders.

I think we should start the rebuilding process with a youthful team with no one over 25, which means we only keep levi garcia, ryan telfer, neval hackshaw, and Alvin jones, the rest should be thanked for their services and released. JMO.

PS. After the USA game at ato boldon dennis claim he would venture into a rebuilding stage with a young crop, then he went back on his word bringing back hyland and that old back line including marvin dirty sheet phillip out of retirement,  i was very surprised he didn’t suit up latapy and Yorke by the rate he was going.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: sjahrain on November 18, 2019, 03:52:13 AM
Signed sealed and delivered into oblivion...and thats a wrap...time to clean house....
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tiresais on November 18, 2019, 03:53:52 AM
I roughly agree we look to the future, but you need some older heads in there - people with the right attitude and professionalism who can help the younger ones integrate into a squad, pass on any wisdom, and otherwise be leaders on the pitch and in the camp.

No one immediately jumps to mind...
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2019, 04:37:03 AM
I roughly agree we look to the future, but you need some older heads in there - people with the right attitude and professionalism who can help the younger ones integrate into a squad, pass on any wisdom, and otherwise be leaders on the pitch and in the camp.

No one immediately jumps to mind...
did you read the article with jovin talking about why he excluded himself from last night’s game him and molino? as important as last night’s game was especially with the injuries and suspensions to key players and how much our football would have been affected for the next few years if we were to lose that game, and making a selfish decision like that, would you wants that kind of mentality around a young impressionable team?

in case you have forgoten jovin was rejected by oto fister the German coach because he was a discipline problem, and because of molino’s antics he may have stirred up the dressing room that triggered the string of Steven hart’s losses to teams he should have beaten easily causing us to miss out not only on the copa america, but also the gold cup.

remember it was Lawrence who brought molino back on the team, molino missed out on the first two games vs costa rica and honduras in the hex and came back in time to play panama where he scored. IMO we don’t need these guys that badly, it’s not like they are essential players like Weston mc kennie who’s output is insane or a albert ellis who is an instant game changer or an andreas guadado or even a josey altador,

please these guys go games without a goal or an assist, especially of late, why do we need them so much? I say we’re better without them in the dressing room. jovin should have kept his mouth shut because no coach likes hearing crap like that.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tallman on November 18, 2019, 05:59:35 AM
WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago's 4-0 loss to Honduras. #HONvTRI #SocaWarriors

https://www.youtube.com/v/kSJy4FeKCJY
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2019, 06:42:46 AM
WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago's 4-0 loss to Honduras. #HONvTRI #SocaWarriors

https://www.youtube.com/v/kSJy4FeKCJY
as much as we love to dog the defense for much of our losses (and rightfully so) while we give the keeper a pass, could anyone watch these highlights and actually blame the defense for any of the goals? looking at these highlights I see the goalie and the midfield at fault.

 on the first goal a man takes a shot from 30 yards out and not even in the box the defense was well positioned and somewhat organized and that goal scored, just look at Marcus Joseph’s shot where López pushed the ball wide, by all accounts that was supposed to score but that’s what good keepers do,they save their teams from embarrassment. marvin had a right to save that first goal, there’s no way that would have scored on any of the top six concacaf goalkeepers.

on the second goal we all knew what ellis was going to do. he normally runs the flanks and pass backward to an on running attacker, jesus wept it’s his M O why wasn’t any of the midfielders tracking and picking up that on coming attacker for Christ sake? then marvin is caught flat footed again and that shot was supposed to be an easy save but not with flat footed marvin.

for those with eyes the third goal was a BS call. the ref messed up on the previous call and owed honduras a penalty so he gave it on that bogus play, but that was certainly not a penalty, very bad call. and on the last goal ellis is running down the right side, the midfield absent again allowing all kind of space for attackers to make cleaver runs and that they did.

ellis is being picked up, for the love of god keeper hold your line at least let him take a shot instead of running out and making it easy for him, what is wrong with our goalies who’s bloody coaching these clowns?

yes our defenders are woeful but I see a midfield putting so much pressure on our defenders causing them to over defend when they should at least take some of that pressure on themselves and off the defense by leaving less space in the middle of the park and holding possession.

all I could hope for is that whoever the next coach is, he familiarize himself with tapes of the last 10 years and study this anomaly closely because this has been our achilles heal for the past 30 years where our defense is easily unraveled with a simple counter attack and rapid ball movement. it’s so very embarrassing.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 18, 2019, 06:59:52 AM
WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago's 4-0 loss to Honduras. #HONvTRI #SocaWarriors

https://www.youtube.com/v/kSJy4FeKCJY
as much as we love to dog the defense for much of our losses (and rightfully so) while we give the keeper a pass, could anyone watch these highlights and actually blame the defense for any of the goals? looking at these highlights I see the goalie and the midfield at fault.

 on the first goal a man takes a shot from 30 yards out and not even in the box the defense was well positioned and somewhat organized and that goal scored, just look at Marcus Joseph’s shot where López pushed the ball wide, by all accounts that was supposed to score but that’s what good keepers do,they save their teams from embarrassment. marvin had a right to save that first goal, there’s no way that would have scored on any of the top six concacaf goalkeepers.

on the second goal we all knew what ellis was going to do. he normally runs the flanks and pass backward to an on running attacker, jesus wept it’s his M O why wasn’t any of the midfielders tracking and picking up that on coming attacker for Christ sake? then marvin is caught flat footed again and that shot was supposed to be an easy save but not with flat footed marvin.

for those with eyes the third goal was a BS call. the ref messed up on the previous call and owed honduras a penalty so he gave it on that bogus play, but that was certainly not a penalty, very bad call. and on the last goal ellis is running down the right side, the midfield absent again allowing all kind of space for attackers to make cleaver runs and that they did.

ellis is being picked up, for the love of god keeper hold your line at least let him take a shot instead of running out and making it easy for him, what is wrong with our goalies who’s bloody coaching these clowns?

yes our defenders are woeful but I see a midfield putting so much pressure on our defenders causing them to over defend when they should at least take some of that pressure on themselves and off the defense by leaving less space in the middle of the park and holding possession.

all I could hope for is that whoever the next coach is, he familiarize himself with tapes of the last 10 years and study this anomaly closely because this has been our achilles heal for the past 30 years where our defense is easily unraveled with a simple counter attack and rapid ball movement. it’s so very embarrassing.
just before the penalty, look how bateau was chasing marvin back to his goal line. one of the things I can’t stand with local keepers is how they run out and gets nothing making it easier for the attackers to score, at least if your leaving your line please get the ball or at least disrupt the momentum, these keepers run out gets nothing interrupt the defense and make it easier to concede, don’t these players reflect on past games?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2019, 07:17:34 AM
WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago's 4-0 loss to Honduras. #HONvTRI #SocaWarriors

https://www.youtube.com/v/kSJy4FeKCJY
as much as we love to dog the defense for much of our losses (and rightfully so) while we give the keeper a pass, could anyone watch these highlights and actually blame the defense for any of the goals? looking at these highlights I see the goalie and the midfield at fault.

 on the first goal a man takes a shot from 30 yards out and not even in the box the defense was well positioned and somewhat organized and that goal scored, just look at Marcus Joseph’s shot where López pushed the ball wide, by all accounts that was supposed to score but that’s what good keepers do,they save their teams from embarrassment. marvin had a right to save that first goal, there’s no way that would have scored on any of the top six concacaf goalkeepers.

on the second goal we all knew what ellis was going to do. he normally runs the flanks and pass backward to an on running attacker, jesus wept it’s his M O why wasn’t any of the midfielders tracking and picking up that on coming attacker for Christ sake? then marvin is caught flat footed again and that shot was supposed to be an easy save but not with flat footed marvin.

for those with eyes the third goal was a BS call. the ref messed up on the previous call and owed honduras a penalty so he gave it on that bogus play, but that was certainly not a penalty, very bad call. and on the last goal ellis is running down the right side, the midfield absent again allowing all kind of space for attackers to make cleaver runs and that they did.

ellis is being picked up, for the love of god keeper hold your line at least let him take a shot instead of running out and making it easy for him, what is wrong with our goalies who’s bloody coaching these clowns?

yes our defenders are woeful but I see a midfield putting so much pressure on our defenders causing them to over defend when they should at least take some of that pressure on themselves and off the defense by leaving less space in the middle of the park and holding possession.

all I could hope for is that whoever the next coach is, he familiarize himself with tapes of the last 10 years and study this anomaly closely because this has been our achilles heal for the past 30 years where our defense is easily unraveled with a simple counter attack and rapid ball movement. it’s so very embarrassing.
just before the penalty, look how bateau was chasing marvin back to his goal line. one of the things I can’t stand with local keepers is how they run out and gets nothing making it easier for the attackers to score, at least if your leaving your line please get the ball or at least disrupt the momentum, these keepers run out gets nothing interrupt the defense and make it easier to concede, don’t these players reflect on past games?

You are absolutely right. That is his MO, but we are dealing with a patchwork job of who is on the field and who plays where. Nonetheless, our MO is that we never to rarely have trailing midfielders. What you're highlighting is not isolated.

Brodda pull stones, I think you are not accepting that the problems are systemic and not mutually exclusive.

You highlight the midfield as being culpable on the reverse ball goal but that is an issue of defensive organization that is not exclusively the responsibility of one line of defense.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2019, 07:59:50 AM
WATCH: Dennis Lawrence's pre-match comments on Honduras vs Trinidad and Tobago

https://www.youtube.com/v/GQkgk1ZmQKw
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: trini supporter on November 18, 2019, 08:43:40 AM
With DL and this current crop of players we are not making any major tournaments soon. Looked at the first half of   the game last night, we looked slow to the ball. When we had to ball seems the players wont sure what to do with it. Overall we are at the worst point in our football's history.I have to ask are we serious about this sport , you telling players couldnt travel because of vaccination cards??  Smh
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2019, 08:52:28 AM
With DL and this current crop of players we are not making any major tournaments soon. Looked at the first half of   the game last night, we looked slow to the ball. When we had to ball seems the players wont sure what to do with it. Overall we are at the worst point in our football's history.I have to ask are we serious about this sport , you telling players couldnt travel because of vaccination cards??  Smh

Hard to argue with this. The team looks bereft of ideas and the leadership in the office is rudderless.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: sjahrain on November 18, 2019, 09:08:31 AM
The disfunction in this FA reminds me so much of what took place under the last wicb administration...almost a carbon copy....
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: grskywalker on November 18, 2019, 09:28:13 AM
DENNIS GUIDES US THROUGH HIS 7 MAN DEFENSE TACTICS   :bs: :bs:   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

https://youtu.be/Zln801vV_6o

Absolutely nothing described here in this video has worked for us!!!!!
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 18, 2019, 09:58:28 AM
DENNIS GUIDES US THROUGH HIS 7 MAN DEFENSE TACTICS   :bs: :bs:   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

https://youtu.be/Zln801vV_6o

Absolutely nothing described here in this video has worked for us!!!!!

They did Dennis a disservice by putting that online.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Tiresais on November 18, 2019, 02:08:24 PM
I roughly agree we look to the future, but you need some older heads in there - people with the right attitude and professionalism who can help the younger ones integrate into a squad, pass on any wisdom, and otherwise be leaders on the pitch and in the camp.

No one immediately jumps to mind...
did you read the article with jovin talking about why he excluded himself from last night’s game him and molino? as important as last night’s game was especially with the injuries and suspensions to key players and how much our football would have been affected for the next few years if we were to lose that game, and making a selfish decision like that, would you wants that kind of mentality around a young impressionable team?

in case you have forgoten jovin was rejected by oto fister the German coach because he was a discipline problem, and because of molino’s antics he may have stirred up the dressing room that triggered the string of Steven hart’s losses to teams he should have beaten easily causing us to miss out not only on the copa america, but also the gold cup.

remember it was Lawrence who brought molino back on the team, molino missed out on the first two games vs costa rica and honduras in the hex and came back in time to play panama where he scored. IMO we don’t need these guys that badly, it’s not like they are essential players like Weston mc kennie who’s output is insane or a albert ellis who is an instant game changer or an andreas guadado or even a josey altador,

please these guys go games without a goal or an assist, especially of late, why do we need them so much? I say we’re better without them in the dressing room. jovin should have kept his mouth shut because no coach likes hearing crap like that.

No argument from me, hence the comment about no one jumping to mind. The more professional, positive influences have mostly passed on or not able to play at the level required. Unless something unexpected happens in the next couple years, one of the less obvious legacies of this period may be the sheer lack of leadership.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 18, 2019, 11:21:43 PM
DENNIS GUIDES US THROUGH HIS 7 MAN DEFENSE TACTICS   :bs: :bs:   :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

https://youtu.be/Zln801vV_6o

Absolutely nothing described here in this video has worked for us!!!!!

They did Dennis a disservice by putting that online.
O.k. it all makes sense now he's an advocate of "pussy" ball to quote ah youtuber I follow, d thing about that is yuh hadda be brave some of the time and explosive along with rigid into yuh shape, doh see none ah dat going on dey ??? hmmmm :-\
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Trini boi on November 19, 2019, 02:39:54 AM
I've never seen us run a 4-3-3.  Seems like it's always 4-5-1 or 5-4-1, or that what it feels like.  More often than not it feels like 4-6 since we have no offense at all (and no midfield).  It's all down to coaching.  No matter how anyone spins this, it's all down to coaching. 
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on November 19, 2019, 04:26:35 AM
I've never seen us run a 4-3-3.  Seems like it's always 4-5-1 or 5-4-1, or that what it feels like.  More often than not it feels like 4-6 since we have no offense at all (and no midfield).  It's all down to coaching.  No matter how anyone spins this, it's all down to coaching. 

T boi, maybe one of the reason why I never went into coaching, is that I don't put too much stock in formations. Not to say that it is not important. It damn important. A coach set up formation depends on two things. The opposition and the quality of the players on his team. 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 5-4-1, etc, etc. Don't matter what! The players have to attack and they have to defend. Our players can't seem to do either at this point in time. Our players are either dispirited or just not good enough. Or both! I want to believe they dispirited. But a substantial amount of forumites would say otherwise.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: lefty on November 19, 2019, 05:24:32 AM
Deeks we have always function as two department in local football attack and defense and one does feel they don't have to help the other.....how much goals we concede were d defense is completely abandoned to fend for themselves when an attack breaks down, we can't keep viewing defense as just d GK and backline and dat is a staple of we football philosophy....d u15s was vexing for dat after a while teams were overloading us at will because have d team would not fallback to help...WOULD NOT....dat is a normal scene in we football and it is by instruction, very bad outdated instructions and players get seasoned in it, it jus more noticeable now....even under Hart it would creep in....I remember a WCQ against  USA Kenwin miscontrol ah pass and lose d ball for what had to be no more than 4 feet away and he just stopped dead....USA immediately goes up the field on a quick counter boom goal and dais a normal scene dat does play off with we. There is no philosophy of collective responsibility in our football at a coaching or developmental level, I ah football peong damn near all years my 42yrs on this earth and remember this issue being very old it jus worst now....from my earliest memory Latapy always had to be covered for in defense now is striker, d wingers, even d DMs doesn't fall back or pressure at times but dis is ah old problem
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 19, 2019, 06:45:25 AM
I am very surprised after all the years of failure and loses to the same teams in the very said manner regardless as to whom is coaching decade after decade that no one ever attempt to get all the stake holders of football together in one room to comprehensively discuss how to remedy our ineptitude and fix this problem once and for all.

I think Leo benhakker once mentioned to the pro league that it’s quality was not good enough to prepare players for international football but since it was coming from a white man i guess the football heads missed the message and in their pettiness did not see the constructive component of his criticism, thus his advice was totally ignored.

what’s really surprising to me is that we firmly believe the answer to our prayers is a first class coach which is :bs:, our problem really lies in the whole construction of football on this island, the people in football, the mentality of footballers and our general football culture and the way we see ourselves on the whole.

go to any local forum online and hear the share nonsense people see as the contributing factors to our failures and it’s either falls on the administration, the coach or some players but they seldom mention lack of resources, the lack of intervention by the right people who has the power to change football, lack of developmental programs, lack of cooperate sponsorship, lack of just conscientiousness surrounding football in general and more importantly lack of care by our players.

for years we depended on the colleges league to supply us with the next generation of footballers and that was true to form until the pro league was formed, now the pro league heavily relays on the same league (SSFL) as a well spring to supply young talent, but the school league only runs for three or four months and coaching is not on going or developmental like in the countries we compete against in concacaf.

taylor twellman alluded to that when the usa failed to make it to russia, he actually placed the blame on the federation for not having proper developmental academies scattered around the country and a proper youth league like the ones in europe to incubate and introduce the next generation of talented young players to the MLS directly as a feeding channel for the league, instead of solely depending on the college's system for the next generation of pros, and he was so right.

Last night should have been the final wake up call for all those who claim to love football in trinidad and tobago. we are our own worst enemy and those of us with any sense has known this now for years but because of our stink mind and our illusions of grandeur, we believe that because we have a few stadiums and a pro league where most caribbean people flock too that we are somehow a footballing power house in the region, when nothing could be further from the truth.

the truth is we are no better than them by any stretch........in fact our mentality is poorer than those of other islanders, and given what we have at our disposal they will rise farther above us, and jamaica bermuda and curacao is living proof of that.

I am glad dennis lawrence and DJW came along when they did to buss our bubble, because under hart we were blinded by the limited success we experienced during his tenure which lead us to believe that we would be fine if only we had the right coach on board, but it’s evidently clear that when when a stellar coach leaves the bad habits and the poor mentality remains, it’s like putting perfume on a dead dog, and we saw it when we went to the World Cup, benhakker had us organized and playing with purpose but look what happened when he left, we went back to our old habits of slack defending and lazy attacking and this more than ever is what’s is needed to be broken, and we break it by implementing first class academies with european coaches as teachers.

our players show up for international duty half match fit mentally disheveled and distracted, the coach would have given them home work to complete and things to work on while they are back at their clubs, you would think that these players would heed his instructions right? WRONG! these guys go right back to doing what they do and football is nothing but a paycheck to them and not a passion.

last night by the 65th minute those guys were through, they were winded  tired  bun  out of gas and honduras knew it, that’s why ellis was finding acres of space to exploit, and the funny part is that they would go back to their clubs and sit and wait for the next call up not working on a single aspect of their game, and it would not dawn on them that they have to work harder, but not the jamaicans or the americans,

they go back to their clubs and put in more work than before and push themselves to the limit, and that’s the difference maker, and our mentality and approach to this game has to change from captain to cook or else the same ole shit will happen to us again, and not even mancini  zagalo  or even the great sir alex could fix this problem. we must change this lazy upity snobbish mentality that we are a footballing nation, no we're not.

we need schools for football only and foreign teachers to break us out of this stink mind set and teach our boys to think international, our clubs and league needs help, we ate in desperate need of better coaches better neighborhood facilities where the local people could come out and support their team, we need international coaches, not these OJT locals who feel they could coach like dennis. we need all the help we can get, yes we need help and we need it fast, but we’re ashamed to admit it or even ask for it. but we need help bad.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: soccerman on November 19, 2019, 09:23:44 AM
I hear you Pull Stones. To go with what you're saying, after the election (hopefully things turnout positively for our football) one of our first hires should be a technical director to oversee all national programs. That individual should be one with international experience in coaching and player development, someone who can bring structure. Most importantly they need to be committed to the task, not gone for 9 months of the year but involved and laying the ground work. From there that individual should be involved in selecting coaches for the teams. They will also work with the coaches directly, give them guidance and will keep them accountable. From senior teams down to the youth levels.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: ffisback on November 19, 2019, 09:56:14 AM
Hopefully this is DL last game as head coach. What a shame
it is mate, even before the game started. DJW days were numbered after the last gold cup and Wallace is definitely trying to bring back hart as we speak.
Are you  saying that these guys are going to get rid of this loser to hire another loser.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 19, 2019, 10:13:31 AM
I hear you Pull Stones. To go with what you're saying, after the election (hopefully things turnout positively for our football) one of our first hires should be a technical director to oversee all national programs. That individual should be one with international experience in coaching and player development, someone who can bring structure. Most importantly they need to be committed to the task, not gone for 9 months of the year but involved and laying the ground work. From there that individual should be involved in selecting coaches for the teams. They will also work with the coaches directly, give them guidance and will keep them accountable. From senior teams down to the youth levels.
hopefully they could hire benhakker or some big name brazilian like scolari to be the TD, when they hired Lincoln phillip and Anton corneal I knew they weren’t serious. just as you said we need a real work horse TD, even one who could reach out to the pro league and assist them with raising the level of the game in TT.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 19, 2019, 10:18:08 AM
Hopefully this is DL last game as head coach. What a shame
it is mate, even before the game started. DJW days were numbered after the last gold cup and Wallace is definitely trying to bring back hart as we speak.
Are you  saying that these guys are going to get rid of this loser to hire another loser.
get serious ff no one is saying that, I too would be disappointed if we rehire hart, I was simply making a point that dennis is on his way out. as for hart well i think he’s better than dennis, but we need another benhakker, a no nonsense coach who recognizes talent one who actually won titles and is a proven winner, but please no more trinidadians.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: gawd on pitch on November 19, 2019, 10:35:47 AM
Hopefully this is DL last game as head coach. What a shame
it is mate, even before the game started. DJW days were numbered after the last gold cup and Wallace is definitely trying to bring back hart as we speak.
Are you  saying that these guys are going to get rid of this loser to hire another loser.
get serious ff no one is saying that, I too would be disappointed if we rehire hart, I was simply making a point that dennis is on his way out. as for hart well i think he’s better than dennis, but we need another benhakker, a no nonsense coach who recognizes talent one who actually won titles and is a proven winner, but please no more trinidadians.

I would take my chances with Hart again. He is in a good position to even give some prospects a sweat in the CPL.. the same league that Ryan Telfer is developing in.

Hart was sabotaged by DJW. There is a correlation with the drop in form for thr mens national team and the election of DJW.. In fact there is a correlation with the drop in form for all teams in the national set up and the election of DJW. We went from tying Mexico on two occasions to barely tying Guyana.

June 2020 is when we have our Gold cup qualifications. There is a good chance we might face Guyana or even Guatemala.. something to think about.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 19, 2019, 11:05:37 AM
Why so much romanticism in the sentiment about who should come next ... the return of Beenie, the return of SH. What next, the return of the Jedi?
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: maxg on November 19, 2019, 11:23:41 AM
http://ssfltt.com/index.php/2017/09/20/from-then-to-now-three-decades-of-ssfl-football/

From Then to Now – Three Decades of SSFL Football
The class of the 20th century.."From Then To Now"
By Garth Wattley.   09-Jan-2000 [/size]

In this feature written by Garth Wattley and published in the Trinidad Express in 2000, three decades of Secondary Schools Football is recaptured.

Thirty-six years old, how does it feel? From Leroy De Leon to Arnold Dwarika, schoolboy football has experienced a world of change in its time. In three decades, the Colleges Football League has experienced more than a difference in its style of play.

The name is no longer the same. The CFL is now the SSFL -Secondary Schools Football League.

The change in designation has had wider implications for the league.

What began as a contest among six schools has become a truly nationwide series of competitions involving some 27 teams playing in the championship division. The gloried but very exclusive contests of the early 20th century are long gone.

In their place is a structure that allows tiny Toco the opportunity to topple once mighty QRC and the folks across the sea in Tobago to gain the type of national recognition not afforded them in other spheres.

But in 36 years, has all change been good change?

And as the 20th century begins to fade from memory, what will be the legacy of the SSFL in Trinidad and Tobago? Is expansion a significant part of that legacy?

Former Fatima College principal Clive Pantin answers in the affirmative.

“They brought a new perspective to the league,” he says of the secondary schools and senior comprehensives that arrived in the 1970s and 80s.

“The expansion,” he adds, “has given more young men the ability to shine, to do things. In a smaller league they would never have got the opportunity.”

And where indeed would national football have been in the last two decades had John Donaldson Technical Institute not introduced Clayton Morris, Tranquillity Secondary Russell Latapy, Mucurapo Senior Comprehensive Hutson Charles and Clint Marcelle, Signal Hill Dwight Yorke, Arima Senior Comprehensive Kerry Jamerson, St Augustine Senior Comprehensive Jerren Nixon and El Dorado Senior Comprehensive Stern John.

The CFL/SSFL is where they all got their start. It is from there they developed the competitive instincts. These were the type of players who gave the national youth teams of the 1980s and 1990s in particular such an exciting flavour.

But change has not come without a price.

Quantity has not, in many cases, improved quality.

Hear current SSFL president Roy Jagroopsingh.

“Now in south, apart from St Benedict’s, Naparima and Princes Town, the quality is sub-standard. That is why I favour six quality teams in the league.”

To reduce from 27 to six teams seems drastic.

But Jagroopsingh is not alone in believing that smaller is better.

“With a very narrow league of eight teams,” notes former national youth coach Keith LookLoy, “if you wanted to play Intercol, you had to get into one of those teams. Nowadays anybody can play.”

The lack of fire on the field has also cooled some of the fervour in the stands.

The 1999 Intercol semi-finals and finals held at Skinner Park reportedly grossed $.1 million. But those were isolated instances.

The crowds for the Intercol contests played in the North and East combined in 1999 would have been hard-pressed to match the 18,000 that the John Donaldson/Mucurapo North Intercol final of 1978 drew to the Queen’s Park Oval. The estimated 20,000 that saw San Fernando Technical and Arima play the 1985 Intercol final at the National Stadium would not have fitted into the Park.

There is no one answer for this. But a significant factor is star quality…rather the lack of it. “Skill does not come with commitment,” notes former national skipper turned commentator Sedley Joseph.

“In my opinion, it seems there were a lot more skilful individuals in the ’60s, ’70s and ’80s than we see now.”

Joseph will get no argument from former Maple player Andy Ganteaume. Ganteaume watched and played his football in an era when a five-forward line-up – not five defenders – was the norm, when offence was the best defence.

“In every team,” he says, “you had at least two forwards who could lash the ball. There were not many dull moments. But it is so regimented now.

“When these different systems came in, players lost their individuality.”

The problem is not unique to these parts.

Argentina’s 1986 World Cup winning coach Carlos Bilardo and former heroes Pele and Johan Cruyff have also lamented the lack of emphasis on technique in the world game.

But in the T&T context, at youth level, the problem is more acute.

“Although we have more clinics, I don’t think people are spending as much time on the technical aspect of the game.”

This from a current SSFL coach, Malick’s Ken Franco.

LookLoy, himself once attached to Malick, is more pointed.

“Nobody,” he says, “wants to invest time in the unglamorous work of training Under-14 boys.”

Naparima coach and ex-St Benedict’s star Jan Steadman is even more blunt.

The tail is wagging the dog in football and everything here,” he declares. “The people who are coaching the football don’t have a clue about the build-up. Everybody wants to be a star coach. Everybody wants to go into a system when the guys can’t even trap! They don’t know the game.”

The effect of such negligence is seen first hand by people like professional coach, Jamal Shabazz.

Many are the schoolboy stars that he has seen who have lost their way in the more technically demanding arena of club soccer.

“Coaches have gone overboard in wanting to win the Secondary Schools Football league and totally miss the point,” he says.

“A lot of times,” he adds, “coaches are hoodwinking themselves. We should be thinking about developing players.”

National coach Bertille St Clair is also concerned about the quality of coaching at the schools level. His counter has been to bring some of the youth squads – the national Under-23s in particular – under his direct supervision. He also suggests organizing a coaching network among the SSFL’s various zones.

But one thing St Clair cannot coach is spirit.

And that perhaps is the greatest indictment of the modern era, its lack of passion.

“Our game was not as much a self-centered game as now,” observes Ian Jeffers, QRC captain in 1966 and 1967.


“Players now focus on their game much more,” he adds.

With the several scholarship and professional opportunities now available, such a narrower focus is understandable, he concedes.

But Jeffers and his contemporaries played at a time when player power meant taking responsibility on the field.

“We were just more involved in the game as players,” he says.

“We used to pick our own teams. Now the coach seems to be the centre of the team.”

Taking charge also sometimes meant taking a hit.

“Take a hit for the team,” was a CIC slogan back in 1970 when Luciano Woodley played.

“People did not play for themselves, they played for their school. Every player gave 100 percent – plus!” he says.

“I don’t know if when they opened up the football to all the schools whether that Intercol rivalry started to die,” muses former CIC player of the ’64 vintage, Richard De Souza.

“But the whole meaning of wearing a blue and white jersey is not the same.”

Both Woodley and De Souza have worked with the players of he present time. And the latter recalled with amazement a case of one of his charges coming to an Intercol team meeting wearing the sky blue shirt of another school!

That would have been sacrilege in the time of the legendary Pa Aleong and Joffre Chambers. They were coaches who inculcated in their numerous pupils both technique and a love of the game.

The late Roderick Warner was another passionate man.

Ask Keith Weekes.

“I don’t think I have passed under a coach who could have motivated players like him,” says the man who played for Warner’s Tranquillity sides of eh early ’70s.

“He could psyche you up for a game.”

A taskmaster at times, Warner could also be the father figure.

“He was into your life,” says Weekes. “He would always give you money to go home, help you buy your boots and even come and talk to your parents to get you to play.”

Colourful Roderick is gone now, and so too are many of his breed.

But is it necessary to bring back the old days?

Perhaps the answer lies in learning new ways to suit the new age.

“We have depended on the Colleges League to develop our players ad it has got us nowhere,” declares Shabazz. “A whole new approach is needed.”

Harsh words perhaps, but in the cold light of the approaching new dawn, necessary ones.

Because once there are goalposts up, the schoolboys will be at play. And the fans will go to see them, confident that from beneath the muck, the highest class will rise again.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: ffisback on November 19, 2019, 02:26:39 PM
TT need   coach's like Francisco Maturana and Zoran Vanes if they want to build a team for 2022 once they got rid of these 2 guys it was all down hill.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: pull stones on November 19, 2019, 08:49:14 PM
TT need   coach's like Francisco Maturana and Zoran Vanes if they want to build a team for 2022 once they got rid of these 2 guys it was all down hill.
no offense, but no bloody thank you. you must be drinking paint to think that Maturana and vranes is better than Steven hart, and I don’t want another session with Steve hart. we all saw what Maturana gives and we also saw what vranes has to offer and it wasn’t anything spectacular, in fact those guys can’t even land a job elsewhere but you want to stick us with recycled coaches. no way.

if the next federation wants to succeed they need a clean slate with new faces all the way around, no local assistant coaches and no local trainers, in fact no locals hanging around period, they are all bloody big ass blights and meddlers, and we don’t want no recyclables.

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Deeks on November 19, 2019, 09:11:21 PM
no local assistant coaches and no local trainers, in fact no locals hanging around period,

Really ?!
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: ffisback on November 20, 2019, 12:25:48 AM
TT need   coach's like Francisco Maturana and Zoran Vanes if they want to build a team for 2022 once they got rid of these 2 guys it was all down hill.
no offense, but no bloody thank you. you must be drinking paint to think that Maturana and vranes is better than Steven hart, and I don’t want another session with Steve hart. we all saw what Maturana gives and we also saw what vranes has to offer and it wasn’t anything spectacular, in fact those guys can’t even land a job elsewhere but you want to stick us with recycled coaches. no way.

if the next federation wants to succeed they need a clean slate with new faces all the way around, no local assistant coaches and no local trainers, in fact no locals hanging around period, they are all bloody big ass blights and meddlers, and we don’t want no recyclables.
I would take F Maturana and Z Vanes over S Hart any day anytime these guys have proven that they can coach at the international level  S Hart has not.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: maxg on November 20, 2019, 01:59:02 AM
TT need   coach's like Francisco Maturana and Zoran Vanes if they want to build a team for 2022 once they got rid of these 2 guys it was all down hill.
no offense, but no bloody thank you. you must be drinking paint to think that Maturana and vranes is better than Steven hart, and I don’t want another session with Steve hart. we all saw what Maturana gives and we also saw what vranes has to offer and it wasn’t anything spectacular, in fact those guys can’t even land a job elsewhere but you want to stick us with recycled coaches. no way.

if the next federation wants to succeed they need a clean slate with new faces all the way around, no local assistant coaches and no local trainers, in fact no locals hanging around period, they are all bloody big ass blights and meddlers, and we don’t want no recyclables.
I would take F Maturana and Z Vanes over S Hart any day anytime these guys have proven that they can coach at the international level  S Hart has not.
true to form. You just plain talking tata..Don't choke on yuh haterade
Neither of those 2 have more International coaching experience than Hart, Though, if I be he, I wouldn't touch that coaching position with a email farless a pole. Besides, I doubt Lawrence going anywhere fast.

Yuh ever wonder why Maturana terms are so short ? Is Vranes even coaching now ?
Given the financial situation and a freezing over of hell, i would give Angus Eve or Derek King a shot. And even they might refuse, liking they lives without the stress right now.

Hart
Teams managed
1988–1989   King of Donair (player-coach)
1993–2001   King of Donair
1997–1999   Saint Mary's Huskies women
1997   Canada U23 (assistant)
2000–2001   Canada U17 (assistant)
2002   Canada U20
2002–2007   Canada U17
2005–2006   Canada (assistant)
2006–2007   Canada (interim)
2007–2008   Canada (assistant)
2009   Canada (interim)
2009–2012   Canada
2013–2016   Trinidad and Tobago

2018–   HFX Wanderers

Maturana
Teams managed
1986   Once Caldas
1987–1990   Atlético Nacional
1987–1990   Colombia
1990–1991   Real Valladolid
1992–1993   América de Cali
1993–1994   Colombia
1994   Atlético Madrid
1995–1997   Ecuador
1998   Millonarios
1999   Costa Rica
1999–2000   Peru
2001   Colombia
2002   Al-Hilal
2002–2003   Colombia
2004   Colón de Santa Fe
2007   Gimnasia La Plata
2008–2009   Trinidad and Tobago
2011–2012   Al Nassr
2017   Once Caldas
2019–   Royal Pari

Vranes

993–1994   Rudar Pljevlja
1994–1996   Trinidad & Tobago
1998–2000   Antigua and Barbuda

2001–2002   Joe Public F.C.
2003   Trinidad & Tobago
2003–2004   Rudar Pljevlja
2004–2007   St. Vincent & the Grenadines
2009–2010   Trinidad & Tobago (assistant-coach)
2009–2010   Trinidad & Tobago U20

2014–2015   Central FC
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: Sando prince on November 20, 2019, 07:06:37 AM
T&T drubbed 4-0 by Honduras.
T&T Guardian Reports.


Trinidad and To­ba­go’s hopes of ad­vanc­ing to the next phase of the Con­ca­caf Na­tions League were shat­tered last night af­ter they were drubbed 4-0 by a well-oiled Hon­duras at the Es­ta­dio Olímpi­co Met­ro­pol­i­tano in Hon­duras.

A dou­ble from mid­field­er Al­berth Elis was more than enough to give the home side vic­to­ry and con­fine the So­ca War­riors to yet an­oth­er hu­mil­i­at­ing 4-0 loss in four days.

In a game in which T&T were put un­der de­fen­sive pres­sure from the first whis­tle by a slick Hon­duran mid­field which grabbed con­trol of the game, Elis first con­vert­ed a penal­ty in the sec­ond minute of time added on for stop­pages in the first half. Af­ter de­fend­er Aikim An­drews brought down Hon­duran winger Jonathan Toro­hia in the penal­ty area, Elis stepped up and buried a right-foot­ed shot in­to the bot­tom right-hand cor­ner of T&T goalie Mar­vin Phillip’s net to in­crease the ad­van­tage to 3-0.

Elis com­plet­ed his dou­ble in the 52-minute when he latched on­to a through ball from Toro­hia in­side the penal­ty area and un­leashed a right-foot­er which gave a now weary Phillip no chance again.

Toro­hia had ear­li­er giv­en Hon­duras the lead af­ter just five min­utes when he beat Phillip with a right-foot­er from just out­side the box off a free-kick.

In­flu­en­tial mid­field­er Brayan Moya, who pulled most of the strings in the mid­dle of the field for his team, then gave them a 2-0 cush­ion 15 min­utes lat­er with a left-foot­er in­side the penal­ty area off a feed from Félix Crisan­to.

T&T, beat­en 3-0 in a mid-week friend­ly by Ecuador, tried their best in the sec­ond half but sim­ply did not have the depth to launch a come­back. To add in­sult to in­jury, coach Den­nis Lawrence lost both Jo­mal Williams and Car­lyle Mitchell and to in­juries.

(Teams)

Trinidad and Tobago (4-2-3-1): 1.Marvin Phillip (GK); 18.Aikim Andrews, 2.Aubrey David, 4.Sheldon Bateau (captain), 3.Ross Russell Jr (12.Carlyle Mitchell 55 [5.Daneil Cyrus 69]); 23.Aaron Lester, 8.Kevon Goddard; 20.Jomal Williams (16.Jomoul Francois 74), 9.Ataulla Guerra, 11.Ryan Telfer; 10.Marcus Joseph.

Unused substitutes: 21.Glenroy Samuel (GK), 7.Nathan Lewis, 19.Matthew Woo Ling, 17.Jerrel Britto.

Coach: Dennis Lawrence

Honduras (4-2-1-3): 22.Luis Lopez (GK), 2.Félix Crisanto, 15.Denil Maldonado, 3.Maynor Figueroa (captain), 5.Éver Alvarado; 8.Carlos Pineda, 10.Alexander López; 13.Brayan Moya (20.Edwin Rodríguez 86); 17.Alberth Elis, 11.Rubilio Castillo, 12.Jonathan Toro Rubio (16.Rigoberto Rivas 78).

Unused substitutes: 1.Harold Fonseca (GK), 18.Jose Zúñiga (GK), 4.Marcelo Santos, 6.Bryan Acosta, 7.Emilio Izaguirre, 9.Jorge Benguché, 14.Kevin Arriaga, 19.Juan Ramón Mejía, 21.Kevin López, 23.Edwin Solano.

Coach: Fabián Coito

Concacaf Nations League Result

(Sunday 17 November 2019)

Honduras 4 (Jonathan Toro Rubio 5, Brayan Moya 20, Alberth Elis 45+1 pen, 53), Trinidad and Tobago 0 at San Pedro Sula.

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Honduras whip woeful T&T in Nations League.
By Joel Bailey (Newsday).


HONDURAS whipped a woeful T&T outfit 4-0  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJy4FeKCJY&feature=emb_title) last night, at the Olimpico Metropolitano, San Pedro Sula, Honduras, in their Concacaf Nations League, League A Group C encounter.

The Hondurans have qualified for both the Concacaf Nations League semi-finals and the 2021 Concacaf Gold Cup.

T&T, on the other hand, were relegated to League B and will enter the Gold Cup qualifying second round.

Honduras finished top of the three-team League A Group C with 10 points from four matches, followed by Martinique (three points) – who also qualified for the next Gold Cup, and T&T (two points).

For T&T coach Dennis Lawrence, this result mirrored Thursday’s 3-0 win away to Ecuador, in a friendly international. The T&T team, who recorded their largest ever victory last Sunday – 15-0 over Anguilla – hardly offered a threat on the offensive end, and their defence were routinely picked apart by their hosts.

It was virtually a new-look T&T team, with a number of players absent due to suspension, choice, injuries or inability to enter Honduras due to an issue with their vaccination cards.

Aikim Andrews, who plays as a midfielder with Terminix La Horquetta Rangers, was inserted as the right back by Lawrence, and the make-shift defender was culpable for Honduras’ opener, after five minutes.

Andrews chested a long-ball from a Honduras player and failed to spot a lurking Jonathan Rubio who took the loose ball and drilled a low right-footed shot, from the edge of the penalty box, to the right of goalkeeper Marvin Phillip.

Another full-back, Aubrey David, was left for dead by overlapping defender Felix Crisanto who made a run down the flank and squared the ball for Brayan Moya who slotted a left-footed effort to the bottom right-hand corner in the 20th minute.

Honduras virtually assured themselves of victory when Alberth Elis converted a penalty, in first half stoppage time, after Moya’s shirt was pulled, inside the box, by a hapless Andrews.

And Elis put the icing on the cake in the 54th minute. T&T’s captain Sheldon Bateau’s poor pass was intercepted by the midfield and the ball was relayed to Elis who was free as a bird as he strolled into the penalty box and finished with a powerful right-footed shot.

Marcus Joseph came close to getting an elusive goal for T&T, with a left-footed shot which forced a good save from Luis Lopez, after 61 minutes.



what is new? iz licks and more licks! we cant beat Guyana or Grenada but we think we can beat Honduras?  :D
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: ffisback on November 20, 2019, 08:43:25 AM
TT need   coach's like Francisco Maturana and Zoran Vanes if they want to build a team for 2022 once they got rid of these 2 guys it was all down hill.
no offense, but no bloody thank you. you must be drinking paint to think that Maturana and vranes is better than Steven hart, and I don’t want another session with Steve hart. we all saw what Maturana gives and we also saw what vranes has to offer and it wasn’t anything spectacular, in fact those guys can’t even land a job elsewhere but you want to stick us with recycled coaches. no way.

if the next federation wants to succeed they need a clean slate with new faces all the way around, no local assistant coaches and no local trainers, in fact no locals hanging around period, they are all bloody big ass blights and meddlers, and we don’t want no recyclables.
I would take F Maturana and Z Vanes over S Hart any day anytime these guys have proven that they can coach at the international level  S Hart has not.
true to form. You just plain talking tata..Don't choke on yuh haterade
Neither of those 2 have more International coaching experience than Hart, Though, if I be he, I wouldn't touch that coaching position with a email farless a pole. Besides, I doubt Lawrence going anywhere fast.

Yuh ever wonder why Maturana terms are so short ? Is Vranes even coaching now ?
Given the financial situation and a freezing over of hell, i would give Angus Eve or Derek King a shot. And even they might refuse, liking they lives without the stress right now.

Hart
Teams managed
1988–1989   King of Donair (player-coach)
1993–2001   King of Donair
1997–1999   Saint Mary's Huskies women
1997   Canada U23 (assistant)
2000–2001   Canada U17 (assistant)
2002   Canada U20
2002–2007   Canada U17
2005–2006   Canada (assistant)
2006–2007   Canada (interim)
2007–2008   Canada (assistant)
2009   Canada (interim)
2009–2012   Canada
2013–2016   Trinidad and Tobago

2018–   HFX Wanderers

Maturana
Teams managed
1986   Once Caldas
1987–1990   Atlético Nacional
1987–1990   Colombia
1990–1991   Real Valladolid
1992–1993   América de Cali
1993–1994   Colombia
1994   Atlético Madrid
1995–1997   Ecuador
1998   Millonarios
1999   Costa Rica
1999–2000   Peru
2001   Colombia
2002   Al-Hilal
2002–2003   Colombia
2004   Colón de Santa Fe
2007   Gimnasia La Plata
2008–2009   Trinidad and Tobago
2011–2012   Al Nassr
2017   Once Caldas
2019–   Royal Pari

Vranes

993–1994   Rudar Pljevlja
1994–1996   Trinidad & Tobago
1998–2000   Antigua and Barbuda

2001–2002   Joe Public F.C.
2003   Trinidad & Tobago
2003–2004   Rudar Pljevlja
2004–2007   St. Vincent & the Grenadines
2009–2010   Trinidad & Tobago (assistant-coach)
2009–2010   Trinidad & Tobago U20

2014–2015   Central FC
I'm glad you post that list this just shows why TT football is on a downward spiral because people think like yourself they overlook the fact that S Hart been coaching at a amateur level all his time in Canada and it shows bigtime when he try's to coach at the international level HFX Wanderers is his only professional job and look how that's going while Z Vanes grew up trained and coached in a real professional environment anyone trying to compare the both of them is living in a bubble .
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 20, 2019, 09:31:27 AM
I'm glad you post that list this just shows why TT football is on a downward spiral because people think like yourself they overlook the fact that S Hart been coaching at a amateur level all his time in Canada and it shows bigtime when he try's to coach at the international level HFX Wanderers is his only professional job and look how that's going while Z Vanes grew up trained and coached in a real professional environment anyone trying to compare the both of them is living in a bubble .

But unsurprisingly yuh not making much sense at all. If a coach is coaching professional players how can that activity be described as amateur? Canadian NT players were playing all over the world at levels higher than the the vast majority of players Hart worked with when he assumed the T&T job.

Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: ffisback on November 20, 2019, 10:52:32 AM
I'm glad you post that list this just shows why TT football is on a downward spiral because people think like yourself they overlook the fact that S Hart been coaching at a amateur level all his time in Canada and it shows bigtime when he try's to coach at the international level HFX Wanderers is his only professional job and look how that's going while Z Vanes grew up trained and coached in a real professional environment anyone trying to compare the both of them is living in a bubble .

But unsurprisingly yuh not making much sense at all. If a coach is coaching professional players how can that activity be described as amateur? Canadian NT players were playing all over the world at levels higher than the the vast majority of players Hart worked with when he assumed the T&T job.
Coaching professional players does not make a amateur coach a professional and the end of the day he still a amateur.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 20, 2019, 10:57:48 AM
I'm glad you post that list this just shows why TT football is on a downward spiral because people think like yourself they overlook the fact that S Hart been coaching at a amateur level all his time in Canada and it shows bigtime when he try's to coach at the international level HFX Wanderers is his only professional job and look how that's going while Z Vanes grew up trained and coached in a real professional environment anyone trying to compare the both of them is living in a bubble .

But unsurprisingly yuh not making much sense at all. If a coach is coaching professional players how can that activity be described as amateur? Canadian NT players were playing all over the world at levels higher than the the vast majority of players Hart worked with when he assumed the T&T job.
Coaching professional players does not make a amateur coach a professional and the end of the day he still a amateur.

You don't understand (either out of willful ignorance or incidental ignorance) what renders a coach a professional coach.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: ffisback on November 20, 2019, 12:11:50 PM
I'm glad you post that list this just shows why TT football is on a downward spiral because people think like yourself they overlook the fact that S Hart been coaching at a amateur level all his time in Canada and it shows bigtime when he try's to coach at the international level HFX Wanderers is his only professional job and look how that's going while Z Vanes grew up trained and coached in a real professional environment anyone trying to compare the both of them is living in a bubble .

But unsurprisingly yuh not making much sense at all. If a coach is coaching professional players how can that activity be described as amateur? Canadian NT players were playing all over the world at levels higher than the the vast majority of players Hart worked with when he assumed the T&T job.
Coaching professional players does not make a amateur coach a professional and the end of the day he still a amateur.

You don't understand (either out of willful ignorance or incidental ignorance) what renders a coach a professional coach.
If you think S Hart is a professional coach you don't understand either.
Title: Re: Thread for T&T vs Honduras Games (10-Oct & 17-Nov-2019)
Post by: asylumseeker on November 20, 2019, 12:22:46 PM
I'm glad you post that list this just shows why TT football is on a downward spiral because people think like yourself they overlook the fact that S Hart been coaching at a amateur level all his time in Canada and it shows bigtime when he try's to coach at the international level HFX Wanderers is his only professional job and look how that's going while Z Vanes grew up trained and coached in a real professional environment anyone trying to compare the both of them is living in a bubble .

But unsurprisingly yuh not making much sense at all. If a coach is coaching professional players how can that activity be described as amateur? Canadian NT players were playing all over the world at levels higher than the the vast majority of players Hart worked with when he assumed the T&T job.
Coaching professional players does not make a amateur coach a professional and the end of the day he still a amateur.

You don't understand (either out of willful ignorance or incidental ignorance) what renders a coach a professional coach.
If you think S Hart is a professional coach you don't understand either.

Maybe you should just state for everyone the source of your discontent. Just take a breath and clear the air and confess. Maybe also read KJ's comments about the judgement.