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Title: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Majestic on March 31, 2021, 01:27:10 PM
Ain pass through in a while and came to say something on the above titled thread. Surprised to find none! Why d stickin? Accept we made a mistake, correct it and let's move on. 
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: gawd on pitch on March 31, 2021, 01:52:57 PM
You can tell that this man style of football is not currently working. I hope he prove me wrong.

Fire TF and replace him with who? That might be the million dollar question after July.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: palos on March 31, 2021, 02:58:59 PM
ABTF?  ;D
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: ffisback on March 31, 2021, 06:29:03 PM
I was hoping that he could get TT past the play offs but when I see the type of football he has TT playing they need to pull the plug on TF as soon as possible Haddad better grow some balls and fire his backside   right now.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on March 31, 2021, 08:30:29 PM
Jesus Christ not this rubbish? where do trinis get off thinking that we are somehow entitled to roll over teams and play a pristine brand of football like brazil? the reality is that we are no longer producing players like before, and to make thing worst there is zero dollars being spend on football, what do you people want?

Terry might not be a mancini or a wenger but he has the lads playing organized. So we drew against Peurto rico a team we shouldíve steam rolled, oh really? how many of you know that PR lost only 1-0 to Spain in a friendly some time a back and now has majority of their players out there in the MLS, USL and in the lower leagues in spain? not to mention they have a growing domestic league.

this is not the same minnow team that we beat 8-0 ten years ago people, they are actually pumping big money into their program and trying to build from scratch, and if we donít follow suite and start doing right by football we will continue to be making these ďFIRE THE COACHESĒ thread until we get the message.

There is a pandemic on and considering the circumstances the coach has done quite well organizing the local lads despite the inactivity of the league for the past two years, and giving them the opportunity to train and sharpen their skills. to be honest most of these lads are not 100% match fit but theyíre still out there giving it their all despite being on the road for two weeks and not playing at home. what do you people want, blood?
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on March 31, 2021, 08:49:04 PM
I know what the problem is here, you all sit down every weekend with your barca, Chelsea and Man united jerseys and watch top class billion dollar industry football leagues with the best players and coaches money can buy, you donít support a port vale, a luton town, Bristol rovers, colchester, grimsby town, not even a blackburn rovers.

you donít know what itís like to be real fans, to follow your supporter base to the pub for a pint carrying your flags and blowing horns with your banners and flags waving and singing team songs of valor and chants of encouragement all the way to the park, then your team loses their home game to a team we had no business losing to. then we go back to the pub to vent and drown our sorrows until next week when we do it all over again with a hardcore traveling contingent.

Then the season is over and we survived relegation and plans are on the way on how to make the team, the firm/fanbase and the park even more efficient. people volunteer their time and give back to their clubs be it in    community service to the academy or donations in whatever way. you people in trinidad donít even attend pro league games, itís beneath you. imagine a big league cup final and the stadium is like a ghost town, and had it not been for the school children being bussed in the SSFL finals would be pathetic. So what football fans are you?

You all sit by your TV and watch big money football and wants to see the same performance from lads that would struggle to make a championship league team....well with the exception of jovin, telfer, molino and Aubrey david, the rest of the lads are at best league two quality.

BTW Aubrey david is a beast, canít believe how much he has improved, but seriously though, we just donít have the quality right now, but we can still be fans and support the team instead of tearing down the coach, and only after three games in charge? Itís nonsensical.

Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: gawd on pitch on March 31, 2021, 08:50:40 PM
Jesus Christ not this rubbish? where do trinis get off thinking that we are somehow entitled to roll over teams and play a pristine brand of football like brazil? the reality is that we are no longer producing players like before, and to make thing worst there is zero dollars being spend on football, what do you people want?

Terry might not be a mancini or a wenger but he has the lads playing organized. So we drew against Peurto rico a team we shouldíve steam rolled, oh really? how many of you know that PR lost only 1-0 to Spain in a friendly some time a back?

this is not the same minnow team that we beat 8-0 ten years ago people, they are actually pumping big money into their program and trying to build from scratch, and if we donít follow suite and start doing right by football we will continue to be making these ďFIRE THE COACHESĒ thread until we get the message.

There is a pandemic on and considering the circumstances the coach has done quite well organizing the local lads despite the inactivity of the league for the past two years, and giving them the opportunity to train and sharpen their skills. to be honest most of these lads are not 100% match fit but theyíre still out there giving it their all despite being on the road for two weeks and not playing at home. what do you people want, blood?




Meh brotha, I agree with you to a certain extent. Puerto Rico may have improved, but they still lose to St Kitts. So is it that PR has gotten that much better and they lose to St Kitts? Or is it that St Kitts got better too? Or is it that PR has not improved as much as you think? The problem is more us and that brand of football that TF is promoting. If Frenderup wasnt in goal, it would have been 3-1 for PR, just to put things into context.

Guys who have been following the team for years know that we are way better than that. I watched the game. That team look horrible. Wait till they play a hard black man small island team like Grenada or SVG. Them fellas will play with way more speed, physicality and tenacity than PR.

I willing to give TF a chance. But that game told me we are in big trouble if something doesn't change soon. 

I said it before and I say it again, the final game between Us and St Kitts, will decide the group.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on March 31, 2021, 09:39:53 PM
Jesus Christ not this rubbish? where do trinis get off thinking that we are somehow entitled to roll over teams and play a pristine brand of football like brazil? the reality is that we are no longer producing players like before, and to make thing worst there is zero dollars being spend on football, what do you people want?

Terry might not be a mancini or a wenger but he has the lads playing organized. So we drew against Peurto rico a team we shouldíve steam rolled, oh really? how many of you know that PR lost only 1-0 to Spain in a friendly some time a back?

this is not the same minnow team that we beat 8-0 ten years ago people, they are actually pumping big money into their program and trying to build from scratch, and if we donít follow suite and start doing right by football we will continue to be making these ďFIRE THE COACHESĒ thread until we get the message.

There is a pandemic on and considering the circumstances the coach has done quite well organizing the local lads despite the inactivity of the league for the past two years, and giving them the opportunity to train and sharpen their skills. to be honest most of these lads are not 100% match fit but theyíre still out there giving, it their all despite being on the road for two weeks and not playing at home. what do you people want, blood?




Meh brotha, I agree with you to a certain extent. Puerto Rico may have improved, but they still lose to St Kitts. So is it that PR has gotten that much better and they lose to St Kitts? Or is it that St Kitts got better too? Or is it that PR has not improved as much as you think? The problem is more us and that brand of football that TF is promoting. If Frenderup wasnt in goal, it would have been 3-1 for PR, just to put things into context.

Guys who have been following the team for years know that we are way better than that. I watched the game. That team look horrible. Wait till they play a hard black man small island team like Grenada or SVG. Them fellas will play with way more speed, physicality and tenacity than PR.

I willing to give TF a chance. But that game told me we are in big trouble if something doesn't change soon. 

I said it before and I say it again, the final game between Us and St Kitts, will decide the group.
listen up here my friend. I have been following this team just as much as any other fan here or even more. I started watching TT football in 1989 when my uncle took me to see that world cup game at his best friends house in liverpool, they had a big party with food and drinks and after we loss the party crashed.

from then I have been watching the team losing to teams like mexico and honduras over the years. Iíve seen the ancil el cocks in mexico, the nakids in costa rica the stern Johnís in honduras, the marvin andrews in El Salvador and the list goes on. my favorite players were Leonson lewis, Clint Marcelle and marvin fuastin, those boys were better than latapy in my opinion.

 Iíve seen Arnold dwarika fighting and running his socks off both in qualifying and in gold cup appearances but lacked the quality to make it happen, some how mexico and Costa Rica always had our number despite how much we gave them hell and always found a way to win.

so my friend, I do think iíve earned the right and am qualified to critique our football. and at this critical juncture of the game and after all that has happened, not just with covid and the lack of playing time, but also the awful state DJW had football in, I think we owe it to the team and the coach to be patient and stop with this witch hunt, itís to bloody soon. Trinidadians too disruptive and love too much bacchanal in my opinion.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on March 31, 2021, 10:53:28 PM
Weíre really going there by saying that fenderup actually saved us from defeat? ok then if thatís the case then how many times did Tim Howard, kelor navas, Louis lopez and Ochoa saved their respective countries and took them to the world cup? come on people where do we draw the line, after all isnít it a goal keeperís duty to save goals?

I donít hear mexico and the usa saying thank god for our goalie or else we would have been food for the taking. they take the points and move on regardless as to how poor their performance was on the day or how weak they deem their opponents. but I know whatís our problem, we were so used to poor shoddy goal keeping that when we finally got a decent goal keeper we childishly seek to deny the players and undermine the coaches accomplishments by attributing it to one outstanding player, and that in its self is very petty and disruptive thinking.

Itís like the team is not entitled to one poor performance, and why not? The team has been traveling and living out of a suite case for two weeks, then had to travel the next day after a tough competitive match and with very little recovery time. so in other words itís traveling, playing away, no recovery time and back to back games within three days, come on people have a heart, what do you expect under those conditions? leave the coach alone and stop being so petty.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Controversial on March 31, 2021, 11:48:22 PM
Ain pass through in a while and came to say something on the above titled thread. Surprised to find none! Why d stickin? Accept we made a mistake, correct it and let's move on. 

The major issue is, look Loy is not in charge anymore... the normalization committee is the front man with fifa as the puppet master..

So letís say we replace Fenwick, then the NC will appoint another stooge that they control. Donít forget whoís paying Fenwick salary, just like tallest, so TT are not the winners in the end... they intend to control TT football and Caribbean football and have it where it is, below everyone else...

If you get rid of the NC and cut ties with our local govt who are sell outs as well, then maybe a private sector sponsor or sponsors will have a chance, but then fifa will ban us because they canít control us..
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on April 01, 2021, 03:28:08 AM
Jesus Christ not this rubbish? where do trinis get off thinking that we are somehow entitled to roll over teams and play a pristine brand of football like brazil? the reality is that we are no longer producing players like before, and to make thing worst there is zero dollars being spend on football, what do you people want?

Terry might not be a mancini or a wenger but he has the lads playing organized. So we drew against Peurto rico a team we shouldíve steam rolled, oh really? how many of you know that PR lost only 1-0 to Spain in a friendly some time a back?

this is not the same minnow team that we beat 8-0 ten years ago people, they are actually pumping big money into their program and trying to build from scratch, and if we donít follow suite and start doing right by football we will continue to be making these ďFIRE THE COACHESĒ thread until we get the message.

There is a pandemic on and considering the circumstances the coach has done quite well organizing the local lads despite the inactivity of the league for the past two years, and giving them the opportunity to train and sharpen their skills. to be honest most of these lads are not 100% match fit but theyíre still out there giving it their all despite being on the road for two weeks and not playing at home. what do you people want, blood?




Meh brotha, I agree with you to a certain extent. Puerto Rico may have improved, but they still lose to St Kitts. So is it that PR has gotten that much better and they lose to St Kitts? Or is it that St Kitts got better too? Or is it that PR has not improved as much as you think? The problem is more us and that brand of football that TF is promoting. If Frenderup wasnt in goal, it would have been 3-1 for PR, just to put things into context.

Guys who have been following the team for years know that we are way better than that. I watched the game. That team look horrible. Wait till they play a hard black man small island team like Grenada or SVG. Them fellas will play with way more speed, physicality and tenacity than PR.

I willing to give TF a chance. But that game told me we are in big trouble if something doesn't change soon. 

I said it before and I say it again, the final game between Us and St Kitts, will decide the group.
so wait guyana was a white man team north of the equator? thanks for telling me, I must have missed something. ;D
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: gawd on pitch on April 01, 2021, 07:20:40 AM
Jesus Christ not this rubbish? where do trinis get off thinking that we are somehow entitled to roll over teams and play a pristine brand of football like brazil? the reality is that we are no longer producing players like before, and to make thing worst there is zero dollars being spend on football, what do you people want?

Terry might not be a mancini or a wenger but he has the lads playing organized. So we drew against Peurto rico a team we shouldíve steam rolled, oh really? how many of you know that PR lost only 1-0 to Spain in a friendly some time a back?

this is not the same minnow team that we beat 8-0 ten years ago people, they are actually pumping big money into their program and trying to build from scratch, and if we donít follow suite and start doing right by football we will continue to be making these ďFIRE THE COACHESĒ thread until we get the message.

There is a pandemic on and considering the circumstances the coach has done quite well organizing the local lads despite the inactivity of the league for the past two years, and giving them the opportunity to train and sharpen their skills. to be honest most of these lads are not 100% match fit but theyíre still out there giving it their all despite being on the road for two weeks and not playing at home. what do you people want, blood?




Meh brotha, I agree with you to a certain extent. Puerto Rico may have improved, but they still lose to St Kitts. So is it that PR has gotten that much better and they lose to St Kitts? Or is it that St Kitts got better too? Or is it that PR has not improved as much as you think? The problem is more us and that brand of football that TF is promoting. If Frenderup wasnt in goal, it would have been 3-1 for PR, just to put things into context.

Guys who have been following the team for years know that we are way better than that. I watched the game. That team look horrible. Wait till they play a hard black man small island team like Grenada or SVG. Them fellas will play with way more speed, physicality and tenacity than PR.

I willing to give TF a chance. But that game told me we are in big trouble if something doesn't change soon. 

I said it before and I say it again, the final game between Us and St Kitts, will decide the group.
so wait guyana was a white man team north of the equator? thanks for telling me, I must have missed something. ;D

Guyana was a bunch of 5th division English boys. Put them up against the Bajan team that almost held Panama at home and that Guyanese team would have lost. Btw, we only beat Guyana because of their mistakes. We never really outplayed them.

My point Pull stones is that we got the tie because we played like crap. Watch the game my friend. It was embarrassing to watch.

 If TF continues to use the same approach, I dont see anything positive coming out of it. Sure let's give him a chance, but there is a fine line between belief and reality. The belief is based on hope that TF can get the results.

The reality is that we tied a team that we could/should have beaten. We tied that game because we were outplayed. TF is using pro league kick and chase English tactics. Ugly football in my opinion. Guys were quick to point that out by the end of the first half.

Yes it is still early and I am willimg to give TF a chance. But the realist in me is saying that, based on the last 2 games, TF is not showing that he is cut out for the job. It reminds me of DLs first couple of games. I was willing to give him the chance, but at the back of my mind, I knew that he wasn't able to match Hart.

Pull stones, you're one of the few posters on here who makes good points. But this belief that PR has gotten tremendously better is not sitting with me. It's more us on a decline. A good coach should be able to fix that. Hart did. And I hope TF can.

No where in this thread did I ask for TFs blood. Read my posts again. My main argument with you Pullstones is that Puerto hasnt gotten that much better to be outplaying us like that. How much has PR improved? They lost to ST Kitts. And we tie PR. If PR has become that mighty, they would have at least pulled a tie with St Kitts.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on April 01, 2021, 10:02:32 AM
My brother youíre all over the place and still did not get my drift. My point is that we donít always get exactly what we want when we want it, and that is what kills me with trinidadian fans, they have no patience and want it regardless of the circumstances.

Allow me to repeat myself. We have no league now for two years and counting, our federation has no money and is in dire straights with no president to speak of. we were suspended and wasnít even sure that we would be allowed to participate in this tournament, not to mention that we had to forfeit our home game and travel to DR, and to add to that the foreign base only had a couple days and i mean a couple days to train with the team,

then if that wasnít enough the players were also traumatized with a covid scare in the team and wasnít sure if they would have been allowed to travel to PR, and to compound on that the team were battered by guyana in a grueling physical match that left quite a few players nursing injuries who had to travel the very next day with no recovery time to play a match in 48 hours.

do you really believe the lads had enough in them to go up against a well organized team in PR and give a satisfactory performance? Come on mate this is not about terry, and Iíll tell you why, Steven hart played a brilliant game vs mexico and with only two days rest went into a knockout game with panama, and by the intensity of play you could tell that these werenít the same players who ent up against mexico a few days prior, and simply because they were tired and did not recover from the previous game, not to mention the traveling.

You must also remember that the great steven hart also loss his last eight matches in charge, apparently he had lost the dressing room though I doubt that, I believe he was too predictable and his opponents eventually prepared well to face him.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Deeks on April 01, 2021, 10:08:22 AM
pull stones, what it is ah tell You?
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on April 01, 2021, 10:41:24 AM
BTW all the other caribbean teams you mentioned all have UK born and bred players, and not only guyana. in fact I think st kitts has about 5 brits on their roster and a couple US based players. these teams are not only out playing us just because they stepped up their game, a lot of these teams actually are over run with UK born and bred second generation caribbean players.

PR has about 8 starters who live and ply their trade outside of PR,in fact apart from barbados I believe weíre the only team with two foreign bred players in our starting line up. and FYI I donít believe any of those rough house caribbean teams could beat us especially when weíre at home and well prepared,

and while we are on the subject of beating caribean opposition, you seem to think that goals come by genius when in fact 95% teams that score on another team was as a direct result of a mistake made by the losing team, so of course guyana made mistakes and we capitalized on it, isnít that how football generally works? enough with the excuses and give the lads and the coach some credit mate, we are not brazil nor even Costa Rica, and with good reason, we donít spend any kind of money on sports so in retrospect you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on April 01, 2021, 10:42:26 AM
pull stones, what it is ah tell You?
remind me deeks.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Storeboy on April 01, 2021, 12:03:50 PM
Yes. Let's fire Fenwick now and owe another million dollars we don't have. Is there any self-respecting coach who would sign a contract with this rudderless, bankrupt organization. Yes! Some coach who have no job and looing for some free money from a lawsuit.
All yuh good eh!
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: asylumseeker on April 01, 2021, 12:57:15 PM
The match was winnable.

Indeed, we WERE winning despite not playing well and despite a player having a genuine opportunity to cement the proceedings to make it 2-0. Yes, there are a litany of problems in T&T football, but players do not need a coach to tell them that the clock is ticking towards the final whistle and that urgency is needed. That was a match in which our wounds were self-inflicted.

If you had said to Hyland, today you all don't have a coach, you pick an XI, go out there and WHIP Puerto Rico' s ass and btw play for pride and don't lose because we have NEVER lost to this territory, how much worse could Hyland have done? Guaranteed the job would have been done and there would have been more attempts on goal.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Tiresais on April 01, 2021, 02:15:02 PM
Lets be blunt, sacking Fenwick will harm us more than help. The debt is still #1, #2 and #3 priorities for me personally (which is why he shouldn't have got such a lucrative contract...). If we've paid him out for several years we had best use him
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: palos on April 01, 2021, 02:21:13 PM
Terry might not be a mancini or a wenger but he has the lads playing organized.

 ???  Organized?

Ah wouldn't like to see your interpretation of disorganized  ;D
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Controversial on April 01, 2021, 02:24:33 PM
The match was winnable.

Indeed, we WERE winning despite not playing well and despite a player having a genuine opportunity to cement the proceedings to make it 2-0. Yes, there are a litany of problems in T&T football, but players do not need a coach to tell them that the clock is ticking towards the final whistle and that urgency is needed. That was a match in which our wounds were self-inflicted.

If you had said to Hyland, today you all don't have a coach, you pick an XI, go out there and WHIP Puerto Rico' s ass and btw play for pride and don't lose because we have NEVER lost to this territory, how much worse could Hyland have done? Guaranteed the job would have been done and there would have been more attempts on goal.

So essentially you are saying here that we didnít need a coach to produce this result, the players could have won without Fenwick and coached themselves with my least favorite player, Hyland lol

Which to me Its saying, Fenwick is worthless and backs up my thread  :D
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: palos on April 01, 2021, 02:27:20 PM
Fenwick been campaigning for this wuk for donkey years.  Ever since he came to Trinidad with Ricky Hill.

He always boasted that he could do better than anybody...including Beenhakker

So now he get what he been begging for all these years.  And we supposed to ignore the fact that we draw with PR on his watch?

Allyuh could come up with how many excuses yuh want.  Every team in similar boats.  T&T no worse off than most and better off than plenty.

If Fenwick and his supporters cyach deal with the heat that comes along with the job...get out de kitchen
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Controversial on April 01, 2021, 02:28:16 PM
Terry might not be a mancini or a wenger but he has the lads playing organized.

 ???  Organized?

Ah wouldn't like to see your interpretation of disorganized  ;D

Pullstones adores Tom Saintfiet, so anything above that level is organized for Pullstones  :D :D

Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Deeks on April 01, 2021, 04:19:46 PM
pull stones, what it is ah tell You?
remind me deeks.

In the Thread for TT and Puerto Rico. You had wrote a comment. You stated "this is Terryís third game in charge and already heís in for mounting criticism, you people got some balls."

And I wrote "If TT do not win their next game, your will see a "Fire Terry Fenwick Thread".

I was referring to the Fire Terry Fenwick Thread being posted. It came out quicker than I thought.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: palos on April 01, 2021, 05:53:38 PM
I was referring to the Fire Terry Fenwick Thread being posted. It came out quicker than I thought.
Unless he head butt, or otherwise physically assault another TTFA employee, Fenwick unlikely to get fired during the WCQ campaign....however long, or short, that may be.

The thread title is facetious.  At least that's how I look at it.

But does that make him somehow above criticism?  Absolutely forkane not. 
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: ffisback on April 04, 2021, 01:39:24 AM
TT has 1 of the worst coach's in the group nearly every team has gone and hired a fairly experience decent coach to do the job TT has  gone and hired a English con man who could not even cut it in the English lower divisions even the people in England don't like his football he might look good against a bunch of amateur school boy coach's in TT but in the real world he is toast.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on April 04, 2021, 01:55:58 AM
TT has 1 of the worst coach's in the group nearly every team has gone and hired a fairly experience decent coach to do the job TT has  gone and hired a English con man who could not even cut it in the English lower divisions even the people in England don't like his football he might look good against a bunch of amateur school boy coach's in TT but in the real world he is toast.
you are such a toxic bloke, i feel sorry for the people that has to co exist along side you.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Deeks on April 04, 2021, 08:25:04 AM
TT has 1 of the worst coach's in the group nearly every team has gone and hired a fairly experience decent coach to do the job TT has  gone and hired a English con man who could not even cut it in the English lower divisions even the people in England don't like his football he might look good against a bunch of amateur school boy coach's in TT but in the real world he is toast.
you are such a toxic bloke, i feel sorry for the people that has to co exist along side you.

 I am not a big TF fan. But I think he has just as much right as any Trini to coach the TT team. He has lived and coach in the island for over 20 years. And for your info., we have had many a foreign coach over the years. Is he above criticisms. No! He is  getting the same royal treatment like most past national coaches.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: royal on June 05, 2021, 05:51:58 PM
well flocks.... what do you think? Not to sure he has the backing of the players after today's display. It was pathetic at best. 
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 05, 2021, 06:04:52 PM
well flocks.... what do you think? Not to sure he has the backing of the players after today's display. It was pathetic at best. 

Pathetic is still too nice. He does not have the backing of the players. Latapy looks like he got more experience now. He actually gave BAR a good chance. Bring in Latapy
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 05, 2021, 06:17:33 PM
well flocks.... what do you think? Not to sure he has the backing of the players after today's display. It was pathetic at best.
so a coach needs the backing of the players on a national team, so tell me this, if I donít like the coach then I shagg the team and disappoint the fans just because I want the coach gone?? then why the blazes do you guys even support such shitty players, I know I wonít. BTW I believe jovin Jones should be history after this, this player has been pulling on my balls for a spell now. heís grown way too big for his britches.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Deeks on June 05, 2021, 06:31:01 PM
well flocks.... what do you think? Not to sure he has the backing of the players after today's display. It was pathetic at best. 

Pathetic is still too nice. He does not have the backing of the players. Latapy looks like he got more experience now. He actually gave BAR a good chance. Bring in Latapy

Dude, many people on this thread criticised Latas left, right and center when he was coach. Also Dennis get good bwah!. Except when the team knocked out the US. As long as you win is what matters.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 05, 2021, 06:36:03 PM
well flocks.... what do you think? Not to sure he has the backing of the players after today's display. It was pathetic at best. 

Pathetic is still too nice. He does not have the backing of the players. Latapy looks like he got more experience now. He actually gave BAR a good chance. Bring in Latapy

Dude, many people on this thread criticised Latas left, right and center when he was coach. Also Dennis get good bwah!. Except when the team knocked out the US. As long as you win is what matters.

Yes. But there was something about this team that just look very bad. I mean we watch DL games. They were bad yes. But this team just look way off with Fenwick. DL was better. I'm only choosing the lesser of the evil. .
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 05, 2021, 06:38:12 PM
Let's see if the players go to social media for reaction. I think JJ, Levi and anyone else who making good money to fly back to their club and skip Tuesday game.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Sando prince on June 05, 2021, 06:52:46 PM

 Our problems start at youth level and the national team will never be successful until we correct the issues at youth level.

Anyway I saw this very interesting response to today's loss.. https://tinyurl.com/5xwchrnh
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Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: royal on June 05, 2021, 07:30:39 PM
well flocks.... what do you think? Not to sure he has the backing of the players after today's display. It was pathetic at best.
so a coach needs the backing of the players on a national team, so tell me this, if I donít like the coach then I shagg the team and disappoint the fans just because I want the coach gone?? then why the blazes do you guys even support such shitty players, I know I wonít. BTW I believe jovin Jones should be history after this, this player has been pulling on my balls for a spell now. heís grown way too big for his britches.

It appears that there's trouble in T&T camp. I've been around several T&T teams not only in football and I could tell you some behind the scenes stuff that will surprise you including one when we almost didn't play a final. Senior players play an important role in creating the right atmosphere/vibes in the camp and if they don't like or have respect for the coach things could get sour quickly which affects the performance.   
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Deeks on June 05, 2021, 07:31:57 PM

 Our problems start at youth level and the national team will never be successful until we correct the issues at youth level.

Anyway I saw this very interesting response to today's loss.. https://tinyurl.com/5xwchrnh
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Good article, but nothing new that has not been written about before. But as long as corporate TT hedge their bets on football, the sport is doomed to low expectations on the regional and international level. I really would like to see the clubs improve. Two teams I think can do things to improve the football. Connection and Rangers. Only because these owners put money into their teams. Defence Force shouls always be a contender. They draft good to decent players, but are nothing of the DF of old.  They need new coaches. Maybe an outsider. After this Covid mess, we will be able to make a better assessment on how we move forward.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Tiresais on June 06, 2021, 12:22:06 AM
well flocks.... what do you think? Not to sure he has the backing of the players after today's display. It was pathetic at best. 

Pathetic is still too nice. He does not have the backing of the players. Latapy looks like he got more experience now. He actually gave BAR a good chance. Bring in Latapy

Honestly if we weren't up crap creek with our debt and Fenwicks stupidly expensive contract, I'd be all for Latapy. He has clearly improved as a coach.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: asylumseeker on June 06, 2021, 02:29:14 AM
well flocks.... what do you think? Not to sure he has the backing of the players after today's display. It was pathetic at best. 

Pathetic is still too nice. He does not have the backing of the players. Latapy looks like he got more experience now. He actually gave BAR a good chance. Bring in Latapy

Honestly if we weren't up crap creek with our debt and Fenwicks stupidly expensive contract, I'd be all for Latapy. He has clearly improved as a coach.

He won't continue to improve coming this side. Nor does it strike me as making sense as a career move. Just saying ...
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: asylumseeker on June 06, 2021, 02:43:55 AM
well flocks.... what do you think? Not to sure he has the backing of the players after today's display. It was pathetic at best.
so a coach needs the backing of the players on a national team, so tell me this, if I donít like the coach then I shagg the team and disappoint the fans just because I want the coach gone?? then why the blazes do you guys even support such shitty players, I know I wonít. BTW I believe jovin Jones should be history after this, this player has been pulling on my balls for a spell now. heís grown way too big for his britches.

How many caps is he on?
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Trini _2026 on June 06, 2021, 04:13:41 AM
All the teams in our group rank lower than us .. this is hard to swallow
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Tiresais on June 06, 2021, 06:59:33 AM
well flocks.... what do you think? Not to sure he has the backing of the players after today's display. It was pathetic at best. 

Pathetic is still too nice. He does not have the backing of the players. Latapy looks like he got more experience now. He actually gave BAR a good chance. Bring in Latapy

Honestly if we weren't up crap creek with our debt and Fenwicks stupidly expensive contract, I'd be all for Latapy. He has clearly improved as a coach.

He won't continue to improve coming this side. Nor does it strike me as making sense as a career move. Just saying ...

Depressingly agree
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: asylumseeker on June 06, 2021, 08:30:13 AM
After not qualifying for the WC, why should Fenwick be tasked with leading the charge to the Gold Cup?

Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 06, 2021, 08:36:02 AM
After not qualifying for the WC, why should Fenwick be tasked with leading the charge to the Gold Cup?



Exactly. I think the contract renewal is based on qualifying to the 2nd round and Gold cup. He might just resign before getting the axe. I know I would.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: asylumseeker on June 06, 2021, 08:39:41 AM
After not qualifying for the WC, why should Fenwick be tasked with leading the charge to the Gold Cup?



Exactly. I think the contract renewal is based on qualifying to the 2nd round and Gold cup. He might just resign before getting the axe. I know I would.

HE IS NOT GOING TO RESIGN.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: asylumseeker on June 06, 2021, 09:00:54 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3KkQmUWEAcsdt1?format=jpg&name=small)

One of these things is not like the others.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Toussaint on June 06, 2021, 09:04:56 AM
I know what the problem is here, you all sit down every weekend with your barca, Chelsea and Man united jerseys and watch top class billion dollar industry football leagues with the best players and coaches money can buy, you donít support a port vale, a luton town, Bristol rovers, colchester, grimsby town, not even a blackburn rovers.

you donít know what itís like to be real fans, to follow your supporter base to the pub for a pint carrying your flags and blowing horns with your banners and flags waving and singing team songs of valor and chants of encouragement all the way to the park, then your team loses their home game to a team we had no business losing to. then we go back to the pub to vent and drown our sorrows until next week when we do it all over again with a hardcore traveling contingent.

Then the season is over and we survived relegation and plans are on the way on how to make the team, the firm/fanbase and the park even more efficient. people volunteer their time and give back to their clubs be it in    community service to the academy or donations in whatever way. you people in trinidad donít even attend pro league games, itís beneath you. imagine a big league cup final and the stadium is like a ghost town, and had it not been for the school children being bussed in the SSFL finals would be pathetic. So what football fans are you?

You all sit by your TV and watch big money football and wants to see the same performance from lads that would struggle to make a championship league team....well with the exception of jovin, telfer, molino and Aubrey david, the rest of the lads are at best league two quality.

BTW Aubrey david is a beast, canít believe how much he has improved, but seriously though, we just donít have the quality right now, but we can still be fans and support the team instead of tearing down the coach, and only after three games in charge? Itís nonsensical.


Jesus Christ not this rubbish? where do trinis get off thinking that we are somehow entitled to roll over teams and play a pristine brand of football like brazil? the reality is that we are no longer producing players like before, and to make thing worst there is zero dollars being spend on football, what do you people want?

Hmm. Isn't winning the whole point of playing other national teams? I think you should want and expect your team to win, especially against others that are clearly weaker by most metrics.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: palos on June 06, 2021, 09:23:38 AM
Allyuh think de womenís team would have done better against Bahamas?
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: ABTrini on June 06, 2021, 01:57:40 PM
Snakes and ladders for folks who can recall
 The familiar predictable refrain has begun- was this a surprise 🕺🤷🏿‍♀️🤔 Fck no!
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: MEP on June 06, 2021, 02:06:11 PM
Quick question can someone respond if the know the answer but what style of play did Fenwick try to impose on the nation team?
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 06, 2021, 03:22:55 PM
I know what the problem is here, you all sit down every weekend with your barca, Chelsea and Man united jerseys and watch top class billion dollar industry football leagues with the best players and coaches money can buy, you donít support a port vale, a luton town, Bristol rovers, colchester, grimsby town, not even a blackburn rovers.

you donít know what itís like to be real fans, to follow your supporter base to the pub for a pint carrying your flags and blowing horns with your banners and flags waving and singing team songs of valor and chants of encouragement all the way to the park, then your team loses their home game to a team we had no business losing to. then we go back to the pub to vent and drown our sorrows until next week when we do it all over again with a hardcore traveling contingent.

Then the season is over and we survived relegation and plans are on the way on how to make the team, the firm/fanbase and the park even more efficient. people volunteer their time and give back to their clubs be it in    community service to the academy or donations in whatever way. you people in trinidad donít even attend pro league games, itís beneath you. imagine a big league cup final and the stadium is like a ghost town, and had it not been for the school children being bussed in the SSFL finals would be pathetic. So what football fans are you?

You all sit by your TV and watch big money football and wants to see the same performance from lads that would struggle to make a championship league team....well with the exception of jovin, telfer, molino and Aubrey david, the rest of the lads are at best league two quality.

BTW Aubrey david is a beast, canít believe how much he has improved, but seriously though, we just donít have the quality right now, but we can still be fans and support the team instead of tearing down the coach, and only after three games in charge? Itís nonsensical.


Jesus Christ not this rubbish? where do trinis get off thinking that we are somehow entitled to roll over teams and play a pristine brand of football like brazil? the reality is that we are no longer producing players like before, and to make thing worst there is zero dollars being spend on football, what do you people want?

Hmm. Isn't winning the whole point of playing other national teams? I think you should want and expect your team to win, especially against others that are clearly weaker by most metrics.
that's true mate, providing that your opponent came to compete, but last evening the bahamas didn't come to compete, they came to park the bus, go watch the game. they were playing an eight man defense and the keeper make nine with two players attacking. that might be a juicy situation for a well oiled quality team like argentina or uraguay, but our lads are weak headed boys who lose their cool when nothing is going their way.

like the commentator said last night, the TT team look dishevelled and unravelled, they never expected the bahamians to park it on them and probably never trained for that eventuality. trinidad and tobago did a similar thing to sweden in the 2006 world cup, they parked the bus when we went down to 10 men and totally frustrated the swedes with that lame duck tactic, and it worked.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 06, 2021, 03:28:00 PM
Snakes and ladders for folks who can recall
 The familiar predictable refrain has begun- was this a surprise 🕺🤷🏿‍♀️🤔 Fck no!
what you on about mate, we loss, bottom line. all this proverbial hints and gestures is rubbish. the lads are piss poor, our federation is rubbish, our league is rubbish and we have no developmental programs and were exposed as a failed federation last night, so what do you expect, miracles? they just couldn't break down a parked bus situation because we have no quality. remember the best player we have plays in the MLS and he blew a blatant sitter last night in the closing stages of the game.....talk about quality
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 06, 2021, 04:13:36 PM
Pull stones player for player we are better than Bahamas. Fenwicks tactics is what cost us this game. Let me remind you this is BAHAMAS.. Yuh heard..  effing BAHAMAS. We beat Anguilla 15 nil.. they are not that far behind Bahamas. We should have had at least 3 goals against them.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Deeks on June 06, 2021, 05:01:46 PM
Terry Fenwick is not getting fired anyway. He will go thru to the end of his contract. If he is fired he will have to be paid off. TTFA eh have no money to hire a new coach. So we will have TF for the Gold Cup and the next nations league. Hopefully when the covid restrictions are over and the league start back we can get something going again. See allyuh in 2026!
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: asylumseeker on June 06, 2021, 05:57:59 PM
Pull stones player for player we are better than Bahamas. Fenwicks tactics is what cost us this game. Let me remind you this is BAHAMAS.. Yuh heard..  effing BAHAMAS. We beat Anguilla 15 nil.. they are not that far behind Bahamas. We should have had at least 3 goals against them.

Put that way, ah see what yuh saying about DL. Based on this nonsense it is not certain a Fenwick squad could muster even 5 against Anguilla. Forget about him duplicating that 15.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 06, 2021, 06:19:49 PM
Terry Fenwick is not getting fired anyway. He will go thru to the end of his contract. If he is fired he will have to be paid off. TTFA eh have no money to hire a new coach. So we will have TF for the Gold Cup and the next nations league. Hopefully when the covid restrictions are over and the league start back we can get something going again. See allyuh in 2026!
IMO itís not the coach to blame itís these bastards who are famous for screwing coaches by deliberately throwing important games.  those guys are known for doing that, they did it with steven hart, and otto fister. ever wondered why fister didn't want jovin jones and attulla guerra on his team? those guys have discipline problems, same with hart who blanked molino for breaking camp, and jovin had his axe to grind with dennis lawrence claiming lawrence didn't treat him right. i find these modern trinis to be very toxic, just wish there was a way to ween myself off TT football. what a wasted endeavour with a waste of time people.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: palos on June 06, 2021, 11:29:51 PM
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 07, 2021, 12:18:54 AM
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: asylumseeker on June 07, 2021, 03:01:24 AM
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: ABTrini on June 07, 2021, 08:45:48 AM
To whom it may concern
Dear members of the Normalization-committee, please revive rage following submission: then kindly request a refund of 20 K US per month retroactive on the inception of the clandestine agreement

 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DjYtGKn-kjU&feature=emb_title
http://
Respectfully
Fed up
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Storeboy on June 07, 2021, 08:53:28 AM
Embarrassing! Depressing! Sickening! Shameful!
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 07, 2021, 09:34:39 AM
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
well letís examine what you calling nonsense shall we, maybe with a little effort we could make some sense of it. first of all terry fenwick inherited a horrid SHITuation, a federation that was in turmoil after decades of mismanagement left it cash strapped in the tens of millions with players being owed for years of service as well as coaches and staff.

a fifa take over by a very unscrupulous disgruntled former federation boss, this evil fat pig instead of stepping aside and allowing another elected official to have a go at leadership opted to crash the program instead by inviting fifa to annul the election process. so now we are in normalizationÖ.of course you knew what happened  there was no football for nearly ten months. all this was accentuated by a raging pandemic that left our borders closed to open travel which meant no friendlies no league no football basically.

Then if that wasnít bad enough the federation was owing staff and everybody elseÖ.in a nut shell the thing screwed real bad behind the scenes. anyway terryís first mistake was to play the super android team that was breaking necks and taking names, a team that wasnít together for more than a year playing a team whose league just concluded so youíre not only playing way better players but they were also fully match fit, the result 7-0, first mistake.

We then had to jump into a qualification a month later, no home games limited practice sessions no league play due to COVID and the players still rusty, and to compound on that we had to travel to p,any all our games while guyana , PR, st kitts all had home access. so letís see here 4 games played 1 friendly loss to the best team in concacaf 1 win and two draws, in reality that ainít so bad as you all wants to make of it, less than 10 games in charge and one lossÖ.TBH mate it ainít that bad providing all the set backs the coaching staff had to deal with.

Now letís examine klinsman and scholari. Klinsman the German genius had a year with the USMNT with no COVID a willing and able federation and an unlimited budget produced a string of terrible results unmatched by every single US coach that preceded him. he produced the worst hex results in decades and in the e d had to run away claiming that his philosophy was beyond the players grasp.

Scholari was in a long anticipated home world cup coaching the best team on paper hosting the coveted tournament of tournaments, imagine busting out in the second round in an embarrassing loss 7-0, he not only failed to advance in the tournament, but he busted out under degrading circumstances, and with all that was available to him, he busted out in similar fashion to fenwick with one more win instead of a draw.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 07, 2021, 09:40:24 AM
To whom it may concern
Dear members of the Normalization-committee, please revive rage following submission: then kindly request a refund of 20 K US per month retroactive on the inception of the clandestine agreement

 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DjYtGKn-kjU&feature=emb_title
http://
Respectfully
Fed up
youíre not gonna stop are you? tell us exactly how long you intend to carry on with this charade? the man failed mate we know and we all saw, yeh heís getting good money and he stumbled fine we got it boss, please donít make yourself as annoying as controversial i beg yuh mate.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 07, 2021, 10:05:48 AM
Embarrassing! Depressing! Sickening! Shameful!
Iím hoping that youíre referring to the federation and their many years of bending football over a barrel with warner/camps and their awful shenanigans coupled with the abject failure of DJW who wanted to pick up where mr warner left off.

Iím hoping that youíre referring to the poor league that we had to work with forever, a league straddled with debt and cannot function without government subventions. a league that fail to market itself to do the very minimum, fill seats at match venues. a league that could not recognize that we play this game at snails pace and our fitness level is as poor as it gets. a league who refused to bring the game back into the communities to boost attendance instead of playing home games 20 miles away in a 30,000 seating capacity stadium.

in a nut shell mate these lads are the victims here, they simply have no quality and are asked to do things beyond their scope, and poor coaching did not get us here neither. I saw the nations cup finals last night and just the technical ability of the Americans and Mexicans alone surpasses us by decades, never mind fitness, these guys are light years ahead of us it ainít funny.

IMO situations like drawing to the bahamas happens in football, after all they didnít out play us, they didnít dominate possession they didnít score, they simply parked the buss and we failed to convert our chances. hey shit happens. better luck next time.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 07, 2021, 10:10:02 AM
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
well letís examine what you calling nonsense shall we, maybe with a little effort we could make some sense of it. first of all terry fenwick inherited a horrid SHITuation, a federation that was in turmoil after decades of mismanagement left it cash strapped in the tens of millions with players being owed for years of service as well as coaches and staff.

a fifa take over by a very unscrupulous disgruntled former federation boss, this evil fat pig instead of stepping aside and allowing another elected official to have a go at leadership opted to crash the program instead by inviting fifa to annul the election process. so now we are in normalizationÖ.of course you knew what happened  there was no football for nearly ten months. all this was accentuated by a raging pandemic that left our borders closed to open travel which meant no friendlies no league no football basically.

Then if that wasnít bad enough the federation was owing staff and everybody elseÖ.in a nut shell the thing screwed real bad behind the scenes. anyway terryís first mistake was to play the super android team that was breaking necks and taking names, a team that wasnít together for more than a year playing a team whose league just concluded so youíre not only playing way better players but they were also fully match fit, the result 7-0, first mistake.

We then had to jump into a qualification a month later, no home games limited practice sessions no league play due to COVID and the players still rusty, and to compound on that we had to travel to p,any all our games while guyana , PR, st kitts all had home access. so letís see here 4 games played 1 friendly loss to the best team in concacaf 1 win and two draws, in reality that ainít so bad as you all wants to make of it, less than 10 games in charge and one lossÖ.TBH mate it ainít that bad providing all the set backs the coaching staff had to deal with.

Now letís examine klinsman and scholari. Klinsman the German genius had a year with the USMNT with no COVID a willing and able federation and an unlimited budget produced a string of terrible results unmatched by every single US coach that preceded him. he produced the worst hex results in decades and in the e d had to run away claiming that his philosophy was beyond the players grasp.

Scholari was in a long anticipated home world cup coaching the best team on paper hosting the coveted tournament of tournaments, imagine busting out in the second round in an embarrassing loss 7-0, he not only failed to advance in the tournament, but he busted out under degrading circumstances, and with all that was available to him, he busted out in similar fashion to fenwick with one more win instead of a draw.

I agree our federation is in shambles. But it's BAHAMAS.. BAHAMAS I tell you. Fenwick should have been able to take advantage of a team of school boys and non professionals with our team of PROFESSIONAL players.

Bro most of us seen it in the PR game. I was hoping that we would have bounced back like you predicted. . and I would have been proven wrong. 

At the end of the day, our current administration aint administrating anything. BUT this loss is 85% due to Fenwicks tactics, or lack of. If you looked at the game, you will see that he did not even adjust the formation at any point. He went into the second half the same way as the first half. His complacency with Bahamas is what gave us the easy exit.

There is no article of him discussing who the "problem players" might be for us... or who we should keep an eye on., etc.. His expectation was that this will be an easy win. Hence, no need to prepare. No need for a scouting report..  He went into this game thinking "this is Bahamas" so why bother scout and be worried about a team of college boys and non professionals. This is why we are going to be watching and not playing in the Octagonal. 

Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: asylumseeker on June 07, 2021, 10:22:36 AM
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
well letís examine what you calling nonsense shall we, maybe with a little effort we could make some sense of it. first of all terry fenwick inherited a horrid SHITuation, a federation that was in turmoil after decades of mismanagement left it cash strapped in the tens of millions with players being owed for years of service as well as coaches and staff.

a fifa take over by a very unscrupulous disgruntled former federation boss, this evil fat pig instead of stepping aside and allowing another elected official to have a go at leadership opted to crash the program instead by inviting fifa to annul the election process. so now we are in normalizationÖ.of course you knew what happened  there was no football for nearly ten months. all this was accentuated by a raging pandemic that left our borders closed to open travel which meant no friendlies no league no football basically.

Then if that wasnít bad enough the federation was owing staff and everybody elseÖ.in a nut shell the thing screwed real bad behind the scenes. anyway terryís first mistake was to play the super android team that was breaking necks and taking names, a team that wasnít together for more than a year playing a team whose league just concluded so youíre not only playing way better players but they were also fully match fit, the result 7-0, first mistake.

We then had to jump into a qualification a month later, no home games limited practice sessions no league play due to COVID and the players still rusty, and to compound on that we had to travel to p,any all our games while guyana , PR, st kitts all had home access. so letís see here 4 games played 1 friendly loss to the best team in concacaf 1 win and two draws, in reality that ainít so bad as you all wants to make of it, less than 10 games in charge and one lossÖ.TBH mate it ainít that bad providing all the set backs the coaching staff had to deal with.

Now letís examine klinsman and scholari. Klinsman the German genius had a year with the USMNT with no COVID a willing and able federation and an unlimited budget produced a string of terrible results unmatched by every single US coach that preceded him. he produced the worst hex results in decades and in the e d had to run away claiming that his philosophy was beyond the players grasp.

Scholari was in a long anticipated home world cup coaching the best team on paper hosting the coveted tournament of tournaments, imagine busting out in the second round in an embarrassing loss 7-0, he not only failed to advance in the tournament, but he busted out under degrading circumstances, and with all that was available to him, he busted out in similar fashion to fenwick with one more win instead of a draw.

Time doesn't permit me to delve into this right now, but you do realize that you are selectively comparing coaches that took teams to the WC  with a coach who hasn't and hasn't come remotely close to the penultimate round of qualifying and who will never take a team to a WC, correct?

Scolari also recently plunged Cruzeiro, but that doesn't help your case either because we have seen him at his best and it should never have been injected into this conversation. Klinsman? One of this strengths was having reliable advisors to whom he listened. Guess who doh listen or learn from the evidence in front of him.

It is also disingenuous to dress up that first match versus the US as a merited part of this exchange. Buh say wha, carry on.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: asylumseeker on June 07, 2021, 10:24:34 AM
@GoP

It is not complacency. It was ignorance. What was there to be complacent about when we needed to win and the match was tied 0-0? Tell me please.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 07, 2021, 10:26:42 AM
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
well letís examine what you calling nonsense shall we, maybe with a little effort we could make some sense of it. first of all terry fenwick inherited a horrid SHITuation, a federation that was in turmoil after decades of mismanagement left it cash strapped in the tens of millions with players being owed for years of service as well as coaches and staff.

a fifa take over by a very unscrupulous disgruntled former federation boss, this evil fat pig instead of stepping aside and allowing another elected official to have a go at leadership opted to crash the program instead by inviting fifa to annul the election process. so now we are in normalizationÖ.of course you knew what happened  there was no football for nearly ten months. all this was accentuated by a raging pandemic that left our borders closed to open travel which meant no friendlies no league no football basically.

Then if that wasnít bad enough the federation was owing staff and everybody elseÖ.in a nut shell the thing screwed real bad behind the scenes. anyway terryís first mistake was to play the super android team that was breaking necks and taking names, a team that wasnít together for more than a year playing a team whose league just concluded so youíre not only playing way better players but they were also fully match fit, the result 7-0, first mistake.

We then had to jump into a qualification a month later, no home games limited practice sessions no league play due to COVID and the players still rusty, and to compound on that we had to travel to p,any all our games while guyana , PR, st kitts all had home access. so letís see here 4 games played 1 friendly loss to the best team in concacaf 1 win and two draws, in reality that ainít so bad as you all wants to make of it, less than 10 games in charge and one lossÖ.TBH mate it ainít that bad providing all the set backs the coaching staff had to deal with.

Now letís examine klinsman and scholari. Klinsman the German genius had a year with the USMNT with no COVID a willing and able federation and an unlimited budget produced a string of terrible results unmatched by every single US coach that preceded him. he produced the worst hex results in decades and in the e d had to run away claiming that his philosophy was beyond the players grasp.

Scholari was in a long anticipated home world cup coaching the best team on paper hosting the coveted tournament of tournaments, imagine busting out in the second round in an embarrassing loss 7-0, he not only failed to advance in the tournament, but he busted out under degrading circumstances, and with all that was available to him, he busted out in similar fashion to fenwick with one more win instead of a draw.

I agree our federation is in shambles. But it's BAHAMAS.. BAHAMAS I tell you. Fenwick should have been able to take advantage of a team of school boys and non professionals with our team of PROFESSIONAL players.

Bro most of us seen it in the PR game. I was hoping that we would have bounced back like you predicted. . and I would have been proven wrong. 

At the end of the day, our current administration aint administrating anything. BUT this loss is 85% due to Fenwicks tactics, or lack of. If you looked at the game, you will see that he did not even adjust the formation at any point. He went into the second half the same way as the first half. His complacency with Bahamas is what gave us the easy exit.

There is no article of him discussing who the "problem players" might be for us... or who we should keep an eye on., etc.. His expectation was that this will be an easy win. Hence, no need to prepare. No need for a scouting report..  He went into this game thinking "this is Bahamas" so why bother scout and be worried about a team of college boys and non professionals. This is why we are going to be watching and not playing in the Octagonal.
mate we keep coming back here with the Bahamas rhetoric. To be fair to the lads the Bahamas did not beat us neither did they out play us, we simply did not have a solution to their 8 man defense line. they conceded possession and played deep in their half and limited the amount of chances on their goal, and the chances we got we failed to convert and easy chances i might add, so youíre telling me that the coach supposed to score sitters, is that his job?

You saw this nonsense all the way back when hart was the coach, he kept telling them to capitalize on their chances, that was one of his many mantras at post match press conferences, they also did the same foolishness with lawrence where they blew easy tap ins and lawrence on many occasions also stress the need to finish chances, so what does that tell you, it says that we struggle with finishing. just look at the stats, in The Whole tournament we conceded one single fluke goal off a miscommunication between two central defenders, itís not like we were played into the ground.

bottom line is that we severely lack quality, especially in the attacking third. we actually need goal scorersÖ.attackers who can finish, but donít take my word for it, go back and examine the stats which says it all. apart from kenwin Jones and Kevin molino we had no goal scorers in the last ten years to speak of. donít take my word for it, go do your research.

Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 07, 2021, 10:35:08 AM
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
well letís examine what you calling nonsense shall we, maybe with a little effort we could make some sense of it. first of all terry fenwick inherited a horrid SHITuation, a federation that was in turmoil after decades of mismanagement left it cash strapped in the tens of millions with players being owed for years of service as well as coaches and staff.

a fifa take over by a very unscrupulous disgruntled former federation boss, this evil fat pig instead of stepping aside and allowing another elected official to have a go at leadership opted to crash the program instead by inviting fifa to annul the election process. so now we are in normalizationÖ.of course you knew what happened  there was no football for nearly ten months. all this was accentuated by a raging pandemic that left our borders closed to open travel which meant no friendlies no league no football basically.

Then if that wasnít bad enough the federation was owing staff and everybody elseÖ.in a nut shell the thing screwed real bad behind the scenes. anyway terryís first mistake was to play the super android team that was breaking necks and taking names, a team that wasnít together for more than a year playing a team whose league just concluded so youíre not only playing way better players but they were also fully match fit, the result 7-0, first mistake.

We then had to jump into a qualification a month later, no home games limited practice sessions no league play due to COVID and the players still rusty, and to compound on that we had to travel to p,any all our games while guyana , PR, st kitts all had home access. so letís see here 4 games played 1 friendly loss to the best team in concacaf 1 win and two draws, in reality that ainít so bad as you all wants to make of it, less than 10 games in charge and one lossÖ.TBH mate it ainít that bad providing all the set backs the coaching staff had to deal with.

Now letís examine klinsman and scholari. Klinsman the German genius had a year with the USMNT with no COVID a willing and able federation and an unlimited budget produced a string of terrible results unmatched by every single US coach that preceded him. he produced the worst hex results in decades and in the e d had to run away claiming that his philosophy was beyond the players grasp.

Scholari was in a long anticipated home world cup coaching the best team on paper hosting the coveted tournament of tournaments, imagine busting out in the second round in an embarrassing loss 7-0, he not only failed to advance in the tournament, but he busted out under degrading circumstances, and with all that was available to him, he busted out in similar fashion to fenwick with one more win instead of a draw.

Time doesn't permit me to delve into this right now, but you do realize that you are selectively comparing coaches that took teams to the WC  with a coach who hasn't and hasn't come remotely close to the penultimate round of qualifying and who will never take a team to a WC, correct?

Scolari also recently plunged Cruzeiro, but that doesn't help your case either because we have seen him at his best and it should never have been injected into this conversation. Klinsman? One of this strengths was having reliable advisors to whom he listened. Guess who doh listen or learn from the evidence in front of him.

It is also disingenuous to dress up that first match versus the US as a merited part of this exchange. Buh say wha, carry on.
apples and oranges mate, we are not talking about their success, I was referring to coaches who coveted a job and failed miserably. that was my point. And of course you wonít dare put fenwick in any class with these two giants, itís nonsensical to say the least, thereís simply no comparison in terms of success, none.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 07, 2021, 10:54:37 AM
Both asylum. . This is how I see it. . "We playing Canada, El Salvador, let me find out who we need to look out for... their tactics, etc.. .". "We playing Bahamas, I am not going to waste my time researching a bunch of college boys who dont even have a wikipedia page.." etc..
Complacency ? yes. Ignorance? absolutely.

To be fair, I am sure their are many instances where we had coaches who did the same thing. But Fenwicks oversight came at the wrong time. If this was my fourth competitive game in charge, that happens to be a qualifier, against a team ranked 200+, yes I will make sure to treat this game like a qualifier against Mexico. Especially since I still have to prove myself. And a win will certainly help to prove me. .
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 07, 2021, 11:04:31 AM
There can be no defending Terry Fenwick.

So ironic after he campaign and beg fuh de wuk since he reach in T&T, always claiming he could do better than any T&T national team head coach at the time.

The most classic case ever of ďbe careful what you ask for.  You just might get itĒ
so what was he supposed to say, I canít do the job? The man tried and failed, it happens mate, just ask Juergen klinsman and Luis filipe scholari.

Yuh stretching credibility with that nonsense. Did Fenwick fail? Yes. Is his failure seriously comparable to the coaches you mentioned? No.
well letís examine what you calling nonsense shall we, maybe with a little effort we could make some sense of it. first of all terry fenwick inherited a horrid SHITuation, a federation that was in turmoil after decades of mismanagement left it cash strapped in the tens of millions with players being owed for years of service as well as coaches and staff.

a fifa take over by a very unscrupulous disgruntled former federation boss, this evil fat pig instead of stepping aside and allowing another elected official to have a go at leadership opted to crash the program instead by inviting fifa to annul the election process. so now we are in normalizationÖ.of course you knew what happened  there was no football for nearly ten months. all this was accentuated by a raging pandemic that left our borders closed to open travel which meant no friendlies no league no football basically.

Then if that wasnít bad enough the federation was owing staff and everybody elseÖ.in a nut shell the thing screwed real bad behind the scenes. anyway terryís first mistake was to play the super android team that was breaking necks and taking names, a team that wasnít together for more than a year playing a team whose league just concluded so youíre not only playing way better players but they were also fully match fit, the result 7-0, first mistake.

We then had to jump into a qualification a month later, no home games limited practice sessions no league play due to COVID and the players still rusty, and to compound on that we had to travel to p,any all our games while guyana , PR, st kitts all had home access. so letís see here 4 games played 1 friendly loss to the best team in concacaf 1 win and two draws, in reality that ainít so bad as you all wants to make of it, less than 10 games in charge and one lossÖ.TBH mate it ainít that bad providing all the set backs the coaching staff had to deal with.

Now letís examine klinsman and scholari. Klinsman the German genius had a year with the USMNT with no COVID a willing and able federation and an unlimited budget produced a string of terrible results unmatched by every single US coach that preceded him. he produced the worst hex results in decades and in the e d had to run away claiming that his philosophy was beyond the players grasp.

Scholari was in a long anticipated home world cup coaching the best team on paper hosting the coveted tournament of tournaments, imagine busting out in the second round in an embarrassing loss 7-0, he not only failed to advance in the tournament, but he busted out under degrading circumstances, and with all that was available to him, he busted out in similar fashion to fenwick with one more win instead of a draw.

I agree our federation is in shambles. But it's BAHAMAS.. BAHAMAS I tell you. Fenwick should have been able to take advantage of a team of school boys and non professionals with our team of PROFESSIONAL players.

Bro most of us seen it in the PR game. I was hoping that we would have bounced back like you predicted. . and I would have been proven wrong. 

At the end of the day, our current administration aint administrating anything. BUT this loss is 85% due to Fenwicks tactics, or lack of. If you looked at the game, you will see that he did not even adjust the formation at any point. He went into the second half the same way as the first half. His complacency with Bahamas is what gave us the easy exit.

There is no article of him discussing who the "problem players" might be for us... or who we should keep an eye on., etc.. His expectation was that this will be an easy win. Hence, no need to prepare. No need for a scouting report..  He went into this game thinking "this is Bahamas" so why bother scout and be worried about a team of college boys and non professionals. This is why we are going to be watching and not playing in the Octagonal.
mate we keep coming back here with the Bahamas rhetoric. To be fair to the lads the Bahamas did not beat us neither did they out play us, we simply did not have a solution to their 8 man defense line. they conceded possession and played deep in their half and limited the amount of chances on their goal, and the chances we got we failed to convert and easy chances i might add, so youíre telling me that the coach supposed to score sitters, is that his job?

You saw this nonsense all the way back when hart was the coach, he kept telling them to capitalize on their chances, that was one of his many mantras at post match press conferences, they also did the same foolishness with lawrence where they blew easy tap ins and lawrence on many occasions also stress the need to finish chances, so what does that tell you, it says that we struggle with finishing. just look at the stats, in The Whole tournament we conceded one single fluke goal off a miscommunication between two central defenders, itís not like we were played into the ground.

bottom line is that we severely lack quality, especially in the attacking third. we actually need goal scorersÖ.attackers who can finish, but donít take my word for it, go back and examine the stats, apart from kenwin Jones and Kevin molino we had no goal scorers in the last ten years to speak of. donít take my word for it, go do your research.



Bro, for this game, it aint about us having quality. Match every TT player with every BAH player and you will see that we have the better players. Many OF THEM BAHAMIANS on the team have 9 to 5 JOBS.. Some work in the tourism industry. You understand my point? Fenwick went into the game with his hands in he pocket. He did not take this game seriously. He kept everything the same well into the second half. He thought that the win was guaranteed and he was WRONG. That is why we loss this game.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 07, 2021, 12:10:43 PM
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: asylumseeker on June 07, 2021, 12:17:31 PM
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

Lehwe say we had 10 chances. The question should be for either 6 or 10: ONLY 6 or 10? Even that is a fail. There was a disturbing spell during the first half when there was seemingly an eternity of no chances and no urgency. Look doh lehme even discuss corner kicks or free kicks ...

Instead of posting, lehwe write Fenwick's resignation, get it to the camp and pry a signature out of him before sundown.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Deeks on June 07, 2021, 01:35:54 PM
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

Lehwe say we had 10 chances. The question should be for either 6 or 10: ONLY 6 or 10? Even that is a fail. There was a disturbing spell during the first half when there was seemingly an eternity of no chances and no urgency. Look doh lehme even discuss corner kicks or free kicks ...

Instead of posting, lehwe write Fenwick's resignation, get it to the camp and pry a signature out of him before sundown.

Fenwick eh going no where. He is going to ride out his contract. Until we get the covid situation back to some kind of normalcy, all TF and the national endeavours will be in flux.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: gawd on pitch on June 07, 2021, 01:42:19 PM
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

Why BAH didn't park the bus on all them game they play? If their park the bus strategy was so good, Guyana wouldn't have scored 4 on them.. if their park the bus was that effective, Puerto Rico wouldn't have scored 7 on them. BAH would have had at least one point if their park the bus strategy was so superb.

Fenwick thought it would have been a walk in the park.. that's why we got that result against BAH. Not because the players ain't that good.. or because the BAH park the bus strategy is impregnable. Fenwick was caught off guard. Bad lapse of judgment.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 07, 2021, 02:20:27 PM
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

Why BAH didn't park the bus on all them game they play? If their park the bus strategy was so good, Guyana wouldn't have scored 4 on them.. if their park the bus was that effective, Puerto Rico wouldn't have scored 7 on them. BAH would have had at least one point if their park the bus strategy was so superb.

Fenwick thought it would have been a walk in the park.. that's why we got that result against BAH. Not because the players ain't that good.. or because the BAH park the bus strategy is impregnable. Fenwick was caught off guard. Bad lapse of judgment.
my god mate go back and watch the game please. to say that they didn't park the bus is insulting my intelligence. as for why they didn't vs guyana, you must remember guyana was their first or second game so of course they would go out and play to win, which leads to committing more bodies going forward leaving greater opportunity for opposing teams to get on the score sheet.

you actually think if they played us the way they played the other teams they would have drew the game, come on mate cut it out. they were extremely conservative and committed very few players in attack. my guess is that they believed if they played us the way they played the rest they would be demolished, so they parked it to save face. come on man, you can't sell me the argument that somehow the other teams were better than us vs bahamas, i'can't buy that based on the obvious.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Trini on June 07, 2021, 02:26:37 PM
Should not matter if they park the bus or not, we should be able to play against a parked bus or park the bus ourselves.
We were just not good enough. Simple.
Players. Coach. Administrators. Govt. Even us as fans, as we settle for mediocrity.

For a small nation like ours with no big resources, we will always rely heavily on the talent of the players to lead the way.
When we qualified for Germany, we had players with Champions League experience. Multiple players playing at highest level across multiple leagues. And battle hardened in CONCACAF.

Now our star players are solid MLS players. Battle hardened in CFU!

Another cycle will come...
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 07, 2021, 02:29:05 PM
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

Lehwe say we had 10 chances. The question should be for either 6 or 10: ONLY 6 or 10? Even that is a fail. There was a disturbing spell during the first half when there was seemingly an eternity of no chances and no urgency. Look doh lehme even discuss corner kicks or free kicks ...

Instead of posting, lehwe write Fenwick's resignation, get it to the camp and pry a signature out of him before sundown.
so when will we fire the players and the whole football fraternity in trinidad and tobago, because as long as i can remember we have been firing a coach every 2 years, some not even lasting a six months on certain occasions, so when will we realize that somethings wrong? and clearly if it keeps happening then shouldn't we try looking  elsewhere  other than coaching. BTW we have nothing left to play for, so why not let fenwick ride out his contract, fire him for what?
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: pull stones on June 07, 2021, 02:39:15 PM
Should not matter if they park the bus or not, we should be able to play against a parked bus or park the bus ourselves.
We were just not good enough. Simple.
Players. Coach. Administrators. Govt. Even us as fans, as we settle for mediocrity.

For a small nation like ours with no big resources, we will always rely heavily on the talent of the players to lead the way.
When we qualified for Germany, we had players with Champions League experience. Multiple players playing at highest level across multiple leagues. And battle hardened in CONCACAF.

Now our star players are solid MLS players. Battle hardened in CFU!

Another cycle will come...
look here, i'm done, you all believe what you want. you all have this notion that we are a big team in CFU when nothing could be farther from the truth. we have always struggled with caribbean opposition of lately. grenda threw us out of the gold cup twice, bermuda beat us at the marvin lee stadium in world dup qualifying, guyana kicked us out of the world cup, antigua BEAT US IN THE CARIBBEAN CUP AND WE HAD TO DEPEND ON HAITI TO BEAT THEM SO WE COULD GO TO THE GOLD CUP.

st vincent was beating us in st vincent even going up twice until levi came on in his debut scoring a brace to save our chances, guyana kicked us out of the world cup in 2011 with players like kenwin jones and carlos edwards, so how are we this big magnanimous team, where is this delusional notion coming from? we're not even 2 goals better than these teams, not me say so, the stats does. you all needs to wake up.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: maxg on June 07, 2021, 03:00:40 PM
Who is this great Bahamian coach to come up with this amazing never seen before strategy to nullify TT, laden with players ? How Bahamas big development of players through their high level leagues and academies and probably as equal player pool as ours ? The Bahamian govt must be put tons of dollars into their program, while we only putting money into all kinda wonderful coaches ? Itís quite possible that if we had all these coaches a couple years ago, and our admin copied that Bahamian model, they would have the guys up to par by now.
How long we will continue to pay top regional dollar and the Beach, Futsal, women and men Ntl coaches will get us up to speed ? Are they an investment in development?

Please ! Terry Fenwick as the National team coach has shown no coaching strategy, tactic nor any convincing result. If the players fail, play tata, show resilience, out play opponents, loose or win, even demonstrate individual ability, itís all on the coach. He put them there, regardless of kudos or blame. This coach was out-foxed by a coach, Nesley Jean. He never play for nobody. His experience was Bahamas U17. He came up with a strategy that an ex- English player with WC pedigree, players with mostly world 2 nd tier Professional and previous National experience to prevent us from beating them. Is it because he learned from the 15 goals scored on them before ? Look Fenwick contract should have gone with Wallace as every Wallace contracts went. National players should now all resign after tonightís game and at  present handle yíall current work. Locals, train with your local coaches and enjoy your skill, until local football can get back to normal. Do not be part of THIS NC National teams fiasco, it would serve only to embarrass you, while clubs take the opponents that your coach have no idea of defusing.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: asylumseeker on June 07, 2021, 03:15:50 PM
GOP I canít keep going back and forth on this, the Bahamians simply Park the bus, our players had at least 6 chances to score and they blew it. now if a team parked it accroos goal and you get 6 chances ina must win game and failed to score,then the coach has done his job by creating 6 chances, but the team didnít do theirs by blowing them all, so why blame the coach? which is still my point.

Lehwe say we had 10 chances. The question should be for either 6 or 10: ONLY 6 or 10? Even that is a fail. There was a disturbing spell during the first half when there was seemingly an eternity of no chances and no urgency. Look doh lehme even discuss corner kicks or free kicks ...

Instead of posting, lehwe write Fenwick's resignation, get it to the camp and pry a signature out of him before sundown.
so when will we fire the players and the whole football fraternity in trinidad and tobago, because as long as i can remember we have been firing a coach every 2 years, some not even lasting a six months on certain occasions, so when will we realize that somethings wrong? and clearly if it keeps happening then shouldn't we try looking  elsewhere  other than coaching. BTW we have nothing left to play for, so why not let fenwick ride out his contract, fire him for what?

No serious and self- respecting entity would let TF continue in an official capacity. But maybe that's the issue.

T&T football and its disagreeable fraternity will get their Me Too/ BLM/ civil rights/ bush bath moment. It will come. Everyone including the Fifth Columnists has had their say ... morning follows night.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: trini supporter on June 07, 2021, 03:29:59 PM
If we were not able to beat bahamas we didnt deserve to go forward. Our football has simply not been good for a while. While i believe TF must go alot of these current players are lacking in quality. We are lucky to have not lost the game. Plain talk bad manners!
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Bourbon on June 07, 2021, 03:39:54 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3KkQmUWEAcsdt1?format=jpg&name=small)

One of these things is not like the others.

Bahamas collected maybe about 15 in their 3 previous games.

We couldnt score ONE when it mattered most. Thats just damning.
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Bourbon on June 07, 2021, 03:43:34 PM
There's not likely to be any form of improvement for GC qualifiers.
So maybe we should write that off too.
If he gets fired he most likely would need to be paid off unless he failed to meet some metrics.

So then what to do. Let him continue and salt  for the next few years until the next cycle of tournaments begin?
Bring in somebody else who going and be hamstrung by this whole mess that is TT football?

What really are our options here?
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Sando prince on June 07, 2021, 06:42:53 PM
Expect more beatings in the Gold Cup! Same game approach = Same shit football = Same sorry structure = Same results
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: ABTrini on June 07, 2021, 10:32:28 PM

Expect more beatings in the Gold Cup! Same game approach = Same hit football = Same sorry structure = Same results

No reactions to the video?
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: ABTrini on June 08, 2021, 08:42:39 AM
This video tells it all

 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DjYtGKn-kjU&feature=emb_title
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Respectfully
Fed up
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: socalion on June 08, 2021, 11:34:24 AM
Ah boy !  Mr terry ( elbow ) fenwick l, you have anything to add or say ?  This  video speak volumes ! Mr fenwick you're dishonest  and certainly have anger issues , sorry but you're not a good example for national duty as a coach ! Too much baggage sorry ! Chuck it you got to go .
Title: Re: Fire Terry Fenwick
Post by: Sando prince on June 12, 2021, 05:16:37 AM

Fenwick got fired together with his assistants

https://www.facebook.com/TeamTrinbago/posts/515900863089428