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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Trini _2026 on March 27, 2023, 08:06:15 PM
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Enough is enough time for a change .. he cannot get us pass nicaragua !!
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what was the score?
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He should have never been hired in the first place, not that it would have made a difference anyway, because not even pep G could have whipped this untechnical bunch of footballers into winners.
These lads are at best english conference league low tier players, so my advice would be to not even waste your time bitching since no one would listen or care in the least. trinidad football is outdated and backward just like the old fools who control the votes in the east west north and southern divisions. it good it good it good, and more licks to come later.
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https://www.youtube.com/v/Hc_aH7dGCJE&t=404s
Still talking bout developing local players eh leave that for the clubs
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What clubs are you talking bout mate, they just started a whole new league just a few weeks ago, that after football being sidelined for almost three years due to the normalization committee and the pandemic, and as it stands the clubs could barely pay their players let alone find money to develop players.
what is needed in TT is football schools like they have in europe, the government should have build five or six schools as such in this nation, four in every region of trinidad and two in tobago where experienced developmental coaches from europe are hired to teach these children how to play football properly.
As for the clubs in this country, they are a big fat joke, they don’t even have training facilities for their club players let alone proper facilities and resources to develop young talent. If I had any input on how football should move forward would be to get the state to spring for these projects under the ministry of education since these initiatives could be quite costly, but will bare fruit in the long term.
believe you me brother, Trinidad and Tobago is one lazy complaisant nation who needs to put their money to work for them by hiring outside help, because these locals with their limited knowledge wants to control every thing but have not a single clue, and that’s our biggest impediment, we too proud to ask for good help.
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Might be a lil too early for this Thread. Mainly because where we are as a football nation, no league for 3 years, top players not available and wasn’t him who loss a match in Nicaragua that put us in this situation in the first place. In addition the gap in Quality between concacaf teams are shrinking. Still supporting the boys let’s at least make it to the gold cup and continue to build back up the standards of Trinidad & Tobago football.
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Might be a lil too early for this Thread. Mainly because where we are as a football nation, no league for 3 years, top players not available and wasn’t him who loss a match in Nicaragua that put us in this situation in the first place. In addition the gap in Quality between concacaf teams are shrinking. Still supporting the boys let’s at least make it to the gold cup and continue to build back up the standards of Trinidad & Tobago football.
sure right. When fenwick who didn’t lose one game……in fact he defeated guyana and st lucia twice and drew with peurto rico and bahamas who literally parked the bus by putting 11 defenders on the 18 yard box and hindered the game just to celebrate a draw, yet we excepted no excuses from him we wanted him gone.
I believe angus should do the same thing and resign just like mr fenwick did, we don’t want no excuses just like we didn’t want none when other coaches failed, wim resigned, oto fister resigned, maturana resigned, Steven hart resigned so who is angus??
That boy ran his mouth when other coaches bummed and called for their resignation, now it’s his turn. resign angus and ASAP.
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Trinidogg We are all supporting the boys but angus GOT TO GO !! There are no standards when it comes to player selection with him . He is not interested in expanding our player pool
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Fire him and then what??? No fitball for three years, a local league that is professional in name only, nothing remotely resembling a competent development program, and we basically in receivership. We really going to ignore harsh reality of these conditions and hire a BIG COACH in a futile attempt to get to the next world cup? No sah!
Beenhakker had Yorke, Latapy, Jones, Edwards, Shaka, Stern, Whitley and Cornell Glen. And we barely made it. Not even he could take this current lot to 2026.
Its like asking Lewis Hamilton to qualify for F1 with a 1969 Morris Minor. With no gas
We in a rebuilding phase, without the rebuilding. Lol, the patient does not need a lift and tuck, is pure cancer treatment.
Maybe the money spent on big name coaches in the last 15 years would be paying dividends had it been put into a thoughtful overhaul of the game, comprehensive youth development program, or modest facilities upgrade for 'professional' teams.
Job #1 is to sort out our financial mess. Job #2 is to clean out the old guard and bring competent people to run the game. Without this it will be decades spent in the football graveyard
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ZANDOLIE EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES... who are the big name coaches ? Have you ever paid attention to angus player selection ?
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Also, Gold Cup qualification or non-qualification comes with costs. One of those is the $$$ member associations receive for being at the dance. That is nothing to sneeze at. Have a look at the teams in the playoff pool. It would have been much more straightforward to dispatch Nicaragua. Possibly up next: Martinique, Suriname, Curacao or Grenada.
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what is needed in TT is football schools like they have in europe, the government should have build five or six schools as such in this nation, four in every region of trinidad and two in tobago where experienced developmental coaches from europe are hired to teach these children how to play football properly.
pullstones You are 100% correct that we need schools for football. But You are 100% f--king mad to expect government to build them. Government, You say ? What about the other sports who will ask for their academies ? The private sector and people with extremely long pockets with discretionary income should be encouraged to partake in this venture. But that eh happening in this TT. One or two may come along and to do it. That will be a breadth of fresh air. But I don't see it.
The reason why we eh qualify because Angus employed the wrong tactics for the game. My pardner in TT said the first 20 mins should have been all out attack, Go for broke. F--k pretty football for that moment. We need to score, not them. Angus had them too cautious, he told me.
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ZANDOLIE EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES... who are the big name coaches ? Have you ever paid attention to angus player selection
What excuses. Eve has serious deficiencies as a manager. His decision making and ability to adapt on the fly appears very poor. Again, he seems to be a good coach/trainer in terms of solid defensive structure as expected in modern international football (Jamaica, Bahamas etc), but terrible in terms of his in-game tactical responsiveness.
But at this point no coach taking us to the world cup in 2026. Lets get that out of the way. I don't see the point in hiring a big coach when we are parked near the bottom of the world not just in rankings but in governance
More energy has to be directed to building a strong federation, bolstering the local leagues and developing a competent youth development system.
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Zando
But at this point no coach taking us to the world cup in 2026. Lets get that out of the way. I don't see the point in hiring a big coach when we are parked near the bottom of the world not just in rankings but in governance
More energy has to be directed to building a strong federation, bolstering the local leagues and developing a competent youth development system.
I refuse to accept that no usa cananda mexico we could it . In the two years since angus in charge our standards went out the door we calling a malta league 2 player and a second division player in india :cursing: they guys days over
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I get the frustration, but after firing Eve who are we relying on to select a good coach? The same people who pick Eve in the first place?
You cannot have a federation racked with spinelessness and mediocrity, and in this kind of disarray and expect to be in the upper tier in COCACAF. Whether it be senior, youth male or female.
For all of Eve's glaring faults, we have beaten Bahamas, and Jamaica at home. and tied with Nicaragua, conceding 1 goal, scoring 5. Jamaica and Nicaragua without Molino, Levi, Daniel Phillips or Muckette, arguably our most effective players.
There is no value in throwing money at a 'super coach' to play Grenada, Guyana, Puerto Rico and Suriname and ignoring the issues that have been rotting the football for well over 10 years.
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After they get rid of a real coach in SH, it was downhill for TT football.
I refuse to supoort TTFA with these jokers at the helm. TT have so much money and intelligent minds, yet they let some corrupt sell outs control football and allow FIFA to rule them like a plantation master.
As I said from the beginning years ago, once this NC controlled by FIFA is in charge, TT football is dead... Its sabotage.
They will continue to appoint below par coaches and the selection will be horrible, so no WC...
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After they get rid of a real coach in SH, it was downhill for TT football.
I refuse to supoort TTFA with these jokers at the helm. TT have so much money and intelligent minds, yet they let some corrupt sell outs control football and allow FIFA to rule them like a plantation master.
As I said from the beginning years ago, once this NC controlled by FIFA is in charge, TT football is dead... Its sabotage.
They will continue to appoint below par coaches and the selection will be horrible, so no WC...
Funny yuh eh blame this coaching on the ruling party.
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Eve has done an excellent job on limited resources while working with an administration in transition from corruption to normality. I like the players he has selected however we have only one that plays in a decent league and he wasn’t playing in the last two games. The players at his disposal are not in the top leagues so they will be as good as their exposure. I think the players and coaches have done well all things considered.
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lil damo he should start looking for players we are here to win ...
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We need to find a few players from top leagues to add to what we have for sure.
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RICHARDS SCORES NAH HE HAS TO GO
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never liked angus but this loss is not so much his fault....except that he got the starting line up way wrong especially with tristan hodge. that man had a master game vs st kitts and you sub him off, for what reason angus?
aubrey david is a turtle, you can't play him on the wing where he bums. and the auvrey guy is a speed star, he should have started to give the jamaican defence some work. ALL THREE GOALS WERE AS A RESULT OF A COUNTER ATTACK, i hope angus learns his lesson. anyway on too the usa, if i was him i go for broke, nothing to lose.
oh i almost forgot, who the FRANCE gives an attack so much time to take a shot on goal, and no one bothered to close him down...yes!! richards on that last goal, what a sloppy performance.
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richards on that last goal, what a sloppy performance.
It appears to me that the shot was going directly to Fenderup when it ricocheted of the defender's foot. But You are correct that someone should have closed in on him
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It appears to me that the shot was going directly to Fenderup when it ricocheted of the defender's foot. But You are correct that someone should have closed in on him
Endorsed.
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this dude fears failure, but not realizing he precipitatin d failure with he fear....... :frustrated: this team would do better if they were allowed to play more positive football
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This team alone? Allyuh witnessing duplication and treating it as a singular occurrence. Some of the features of this NT were evident in the U-20 tournament.
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wrong day to get into this negative vibes, but eve "nobody expected us to get out of this group" comments after the jamaica loss.... reeks of same old "excuses eve". smh. moved his lips to the tune of "taking responsibility" for the loss, but never really did -- is the players who shittier than their jamaica / us counterparts etc. [eve are you shittier than your jamaican / us counterpart?] Where is the we? win and lose together.
Captains!! -- Levi, JJ, Molino
Captains!! -- Alvin, Auvrey, Sheldon
Captains!! -- Hackshaw, Hodge
Captains -- Auvray, Shaw
the fans looking to you and we believe in you to lead us all the way.
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I really really reallllly hope Eve is fired. The TTFA has yet again let down a crop of talented players…it’s unfortunate that our football has long long been in disarray and those responsible for improving our football are incompetent, literally taking away opportunities from the talented youths. It’s a sin, a crime!
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wrong day to get into this negative vibes, but eve "nobody expected us to get out of this group" comments after the jamaica loss.... reeks of same old "excuses eve". smh. moved his lips to the tune of "taking responsibility" for the loss, but never really did -- is the players who shittier than their jamaica / us counterparts etc. [eve are you shittier than your jamaican / us counterpart?] Where is the we? win and lose together.
Captains!! -- Levi, JJ, Molino
Captains!! -- Alvin, Auvrey, Sheldon
Captains!! -- Hackshaw, Hodge
Captains -- Auvray, Shaw
the fans looking to you and we believe in you to lead us all the way.
eve is a rubbish coach hands down, and by your logic nobody expects us to get out of the group so just throw caution to the wind and in the process get routed by jamaica and a second string MLS team, that is where we reach, is that acceptable?
he had the same game plan as he did with jamaica, hope to score first then fall back and defend, when with a team like the usa you have to play with three defenders and flood the midfield with tacklers. every one knows that TT plays horribly with a 4 line back defense, and you could see the pattern of how they conceded in every game.
it's either they have too many players in the box or not enough at all, and that's because they never had a coach to properly organize their defense.
as it stands what we need is for those monkeys down there to revisit the advice of benhakker and wim and properly develop players and their league, just as how the usa did, and it took them 30 years to accomplish their goal, but now their labor is bearing fruit.
so stop with the excuses, angus, hate to say it mate but you're not ready for this level of competition, just like lawrence and latapy, so go back and gain some experience in a proper league and come again. hiring these inexperienced OJT local coaches just to cut corners has been a feature of our lazy cluelss federation heads, and it has proven to be a total embarrassment to our nation's image and the morale of the players and fans, that's why our stadiums are empty.
what we need is to develop our own players, build a solid league and spend money on the sport....which includes getting an experienced tactician to coach our MNT, and it will in turn pay back dividends down the road, as the saying goes, no pain no gain.
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I really really reallllly hope Eve is fired. The TTFA has yet again let down a crop of talented players…it’s unfortunate that our football has long long been in disarray and those responsible for improving our football are incompetent, literally taking away opportunities from the talented youths. It’s a sin, a crime!
what's even worst is that from james to warner and camps to DJW, they have never once approached the government to build schools geared especially towards football the number one sport in the country.
how could you compete with people who are spending hundreds of millions on sports? just look at TT sporting disciplines, they are all lagging behind. basketball, hockey, track and field, football, netball, you name it, we can't compete with people outside of the caribbean, they always show us up as laughable.
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Angus Eve assumed the MNT wuk in June 2021. By fire-a-coach thread standards, he went long before this Fire Thread emerged. He shouldn't complain. :)
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Yeah - I eh go beat up on the coach- he local but yuh have tuh admit when yuh outta yuh league yuh have to pack it in and get some help.
Look people does complain about we local players eh up to the international play- we does be quick to get foreign based players fuh the highest level of competition- should we not hold the same standard for the coaches we select?
Coaching at the local level against the com[petition and level yuh up against steady eh sure how dat preparing yuh? tuh say yuh have ah badge but yuh eh have the exposure is still just ah badge - I have boy scouts badge but ah still have tuh go out and practice tying knots and lighting fire
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“ against steady eh sure how dat preparing yuh? tuh say yuh have ah badge but yuh eh have the exposure is still just ah badge - I have boy scouts badge but ah still have tuh go out and practice tying knots and lighting fire”
Good Point AB ! :beermug:
And also , and at some point in a different harsher environment than yuh backyard. It’s how one learn to survive in a harsh environment, especially if yuh is ah soldier in war or simply athlete in competition. It don’t have a backyard no part of this world large enough to educate and prep an individual for everything, or even a teacher. Best to cover different yards in different countries, then yuh could go back to yours and better prep others.
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Eve expected to step aside; Wired868 reviews ups and downs of outgoing T&T coach
Angus Eve has allegedly told players that he will not seek a renewal for his post as Trinidad and Tobago Men’s National Senior Team head coach, in the wake of his team’s elimination from the 2023 Concacaf Gold Cup.
http://wired868.com/2023/07/03/eve-expected-to-step-aside-wired868-reviews-ups-and-downs-of-outgoing-tt-coach/
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Calling Stephen Hart. Your country needs you more than ever now!
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Calling Stephen Hart. Your country needs you more than ever now!
calling steven hart for what mate? did you forget that the usa also drobbed steven hart followed by honduras and costa rica. we don't need no more plasters for sores, what we need is the cure.
if these clueless bastards didn't get the message by now which is that we need a better league with first class coaches and developmental programs, then these teams will only get better and stronger and we will remain whipping boys until they wake up and decide to do something about it.
the government has to play a big role in this by implementing these programs because lets face it, no one else will. these business owners in trinidad cares nothing for sports, and football in general.
monkeys like selby brown and these old clueless farts who like to strut around as if they own football should not even be allowed to give their input, because they have failed us miserably with their foolishness.
i am telling you, if this didn't wake up these shameless baboons then i don't know what else will. just look at what DJW and jack warner has done with football, just shameless shameless people who have no clue what so ever. hope he pays for his evil that ole crook.
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Who said Hart is the answer PullStones? Seems you also forgot Hart was underminded by DJW however, we do need a head coach better him to steer us...
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they have never once approached the government to build schools geared especially towards football the number one sport in the country.
I agree with You somewhat. But at the time The schools wanted nothing to do with TTFA. TTFA did try to get control but the CFL, mainly the socalled prestige schools Saint, Fatima, QRC, Naps, Pres and Benedicts balked.
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Any update? This is to much you know ..
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What is the deal here we holding on to this guy still ? we have a game sept 7th
7 September2023–24 Nations League Trinidad and Tobago v Curaçao Trinidad and Tobago
10 September2023–24 Nations League El Salvador v Trinidad and Tobago El Salvador
13 October2023–24 Nations League Trinidad and Tobago v Guatemala Trinidad and Tobago
17 October2023–24 Nations League Curaçao v Trinidad and Tobago Curaçao
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It has to be that Angus is keeping his job, seeing as we have games in less than a month!
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Heheheh, sound de alarm! ;D
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Fyzo you are right ..... Hadad did give a hint
No decision on coach Eve or replacement—Hadad
By Walter Alibey (T&T Guardian)
T&T is waiting with bated breath, for the appointment of a national football coach, following the expiration of the contract of coach Angus Eve.
The FIFA-appointed Normalisation Committee, led by businessman Robert Hadad, is expected to decide on who the coach will be this week after a comprehensive review of the team’s performance and results at the CONCACAF Gold Cup, the CONCACAF Nations League and other matches and Eve will be a part of that process.
On Tuesday, Guardian Media Sports reported that former national coach Stephen Hart has been tipped to replace Eve from sources who spoke to us on the condition of anonymity.
However, Hadad, speaking to Guardian Media Sports yesterday said that Hart was one of many coaches that the normalisation committee/T&T Football Association contacted to be part of the coaching set-up.
He revealed that he had also been communicating with Russell Latapy, a former national midfield maestro among others on T&T football matters.
However, Hadad admitted that in the case of both coaches (Hart and Latapy), they had encountered in-court issues which have now been cleared up.
“We have a lot of people we’re talking to, so why they didn’t mention any other names? We’ve been negotiating with Stephen Hart for years. Stephen Hart was owed a ton of money too. We’re talking to Russell Latapy. Russell was owed a ton of money too. I’m not saying either of them is being considered, I’m saying a lot of these people have served their time and have done an amazing job for this country and we treated them like rubbish, we didn’t pay them their money,” Hadad explained.
He noted further, “They had court judgments and they weren’t paid, so we’ve been talking to all of them, so I don’t understand why someone singling out Stephen, I can’t understand that one.”
Quizzed further on whether payments were made to them, he said, “We have negotiated their balances already, so there’s nothing more being owed to them.”
The Courts had ordered the TTFA to pay both coaches over a combined 1.2 million dollars in outstanding salaries owed to them over several years.
Meanwhile, Eve, who took over the coaching reigns from Englishman Terry Fenwick in September 2021, has a record of 12 wins, nine draws, and seven defeats. Fenwick had failed to move T&T past the preliminary rounds of the Caribbean qualifiers to the FIFA 2022 World Cup in Qatar.
The Soca Warriors defeated St Kitts and Nevis 3-0 in their opening match in Group A of the CONCACAF Gold Cup. However, T&T was beaten 4-1 by regional rivals Jamaica and that was followed by a 6-0 rout by the Americans in the final group-stage fixture.
The results have since made Eve, a former national standout, the target of both criticism and sympathy from the football fraternity.
Eve, who has achieved his mandate of qualifying for the Soca Warriors to the CONCACAF Gold Cup, and into the ‘A’ League of the CONCACAF Nations League has also helped T&T moved three places up the FIFA ranking to position 101st.
Hadad explained that “Angus is still the coach, so we cannot start a process for a man who is still there. No decision has been made on what we do with him as yet. We have a group of people we put in place to deal with that, to do an evaluation but it takes time, you don’t do these things in a day.”
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It was obvious Hadad was keeping Eve as coach. Let his contract expire and not have to pay a salary for a lil while. Then rehire him just before CNL games start because we can't afford to pay for a decent coach.
So what's next? Well Angus will continue to talk up in his @$$, the team will not perform and he will blame everything and everyone under the sun except himself.
I agree with firing Angus but that is only part of the problem. Once the normalisation committee is in charge we are not going anywhere. Football results on the field is not on their list of objectives.
Once ah Corneal involved in our football that is another problem.
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cant wait till March
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Hahahaha, Trini, not you alone bredda, thousands of us back home and all over the world too!
And watch, that includes players too...men like Reon, Muckette and others can't wait for March to come :laugh:
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Time to start a sustained campaign
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Time to start a sustained campaign
I'm with you Brother!! cause if we don't take a stand now and get international help, we would be all meeting somewhere to watch other teams play in the upcoming World cup. :-[ Other than a forum like this for people to vent, what could we really do? some podcasts? is not like we going to march around the Red House for this and get Government help, it's a monopoly and right now we on the wrong end of it it seems.