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Sports => Football => Topic started by: TrinInfinite on November 14, 2005, 09:44:14 PM
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I remember this debate on the old board, but now with so many new members, excluding the waggonist/pretenders, i would like for the original crew of supporters and new die hards to comment on this, will you scrunt and play for trinidad and make de world stage or give half of your heart in fear of being injured and losing your overseas contract, whats your answer?
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Boss i remember sitting in QPO in April 2001 watchin yorke pull up endless times on balls he could of run down against mexico, and stick his leg in like he fraid of contact. back then it was clear in my mind his club was #1.. back then he was aslo big man at United
Stern is 1 man who always put his country first no matter the situation and i :applause: him for that
Depends on the person and the situation he in at the time i guess.....
I could see myself doing both :D depending on whats going on
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if i is a young single happy youthman then i good to go. say when and where and i coming with meh boots in meh hand
as a married man now planning for the future with car note to pay, mortgage etc. i would have to think it over tho
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now for now i wudda choose country..buh me eh have no big contract sooooooooooo
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some players treat the world cup finals as a stage for getting in with a better club for a better contract i.e. career development. so it depends on what you have going. watch all the guys whose contracts are up that are part of a world cup team - it is a showcase as well. so it depends.
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Depends.
If is anyting less dan World Cup...soem man eh riskin dey bread and butter.
Oddah's doin it regardless.
Sancho jes risk he wuk by leffin Gillingham against dey wishes.
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forget all the mamaguy .... Club over Country anyday - EXCEPT ...
1. When your work permit about to expire
2. When you could benefit from the exposure
3. When you can't make England side for the WC - and you see TT going.
4. When you can't get a sweat for your club
On this current team - while some players can be singled out for at one time or the other giving less than 100% - however, ALL players here have genuinely more concern for country over club - at the moment, and should be commended.
When a footballer looks at his average lifespan/ playing career - it's important that they cash in while they can - and that means staying healthy and in contention for a starting spot on their club teams ... and while it may not always be about the money .. sometimes it's about going for glory, and TT is rarely in a position to provide a player with that opportunity. Who wants to be sitting in rehab collecting insurance payments?
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I would ...
my family have given their lives for the country since its creation thousands of years before christ ...
I was raised with that sense of belonging ...
no matter how much I suffer in my own country... money is not every thing
before that there is pride, blood, and honor
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I would ...
my family have given their lives for the country since its creation thousands of years before christ ...
I was raised with that sense of belonging ...
no matter how much I suffer in my own country... money is not every thing
before that there is pride, blood, and honor
then how allyuh could come out and play shit football like that?? ;)
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We talkin about countries where there is freedom and democracy
Not open brainwashing, monarchy and fiefdom.
Allyuh men mad!! ... allyuh men holding up pictures of a MORTAL and praising it like is God.
.... and doh tell me ah lie ... cuz the pictures there from Saturday.
... and yuh talkin about CHRIST - Bahrain wasn't even a damn soverignity before Christ - so hush yuh damn uneducated backside. Show me a map and history books that record the tenants of the Kingdom of Bahrain.
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I would ...
my family have given their lives for the country since its creation thousands of years before christ ...
I was raised with that sense of belonging ...
no matter how much I suffer in my own country... money is not every thing
before that there is pride, blood, and honor
then how allyuh could come out and play shit football like that?? ;)
;D ;D ;D I don;t mind shit football as long as we get results :angel:
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We talkin about countries where there is freedom and democracy
Not open brainwashing, monarchy and fiefdom.
Allyuh men mad!! ... allyuh men holding up pictures of a MORTAL and praising it like is God.
.... and doh tell me ah lie ... cuz the pictures there from Saturday.
... and yuh talkin about CHRIST - Bahrain wasn't even a damn soverignity before Christ - so hush yuh damn uneducated backside. Show me a map and history books that record the tenants of the Kingdom of Bahrain.
brainwashing ?
let me guess you live in the states ? where every one outside is uneducated(bahraini educational standards are excellent especially compared to American and Canadian standards), evil (we've lived side by side with people from different color, religion for thousands of years... we are not some gung ho lets go kill "inferiors" like some continent), and brainwashed into a murderer ? ;D ;D
or where blacks are considered criminal until proven other wise, and where arabs are islamic terrorists ?
if that is democracy they can keep it ... and shove it where the sun don't shine
also muslims don't believe in the divinity of man ... even with christ (who is the islamic messiah) ;) while I think its stupid to raise the king;s picture... he does represent our country :)
As for Bahrain it is termed by historians as one of the "cradles of human civilization" we've been around since the creation of human society
see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilmun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bahrain
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Not open brainwashing, monarchy and fiefdom.
yuh stump meh with that one yes fiefdom
I had to look it up
fief·dom
1 The estate or domain of a feudal lord.
2 Something over which one dominant person or group exercises control
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feudal societies are like a dictatorship, extreme tyranny for example, many monarchies have been asscociated with this form of regime,
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let me guess you live in the states ? where every one outside is uneducated, evil and brainwashed into a murderer ? ;D ;D
or where blacks are considered criminal until proven other wise, and where arabs are islamic terrorists ?
the man born, grow and was schooled in Trinidad out of the bubble of the USA so the man could make an unbiased assessment jes like everybody here
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some of dese middle eastern man have a complex when it comes 2 de US, not everything bad about de states sah, bush and saddam an dem was all in de same bed, u shouldnt talk bc ur saudi brothers causin most of de plight for de muslim world, so wat de hell u talkin about
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let me guess you live in the states ? where every one outside is uneducated, evil and brainwashed into a murderer ? ;D ;D
or where blacks are considered criminal until proven other wise, and where arabs are islamic terrorists ?
the man born, grow and was schooled in Trinidad out of the bubble of the USA so the man could make an unbiased assessment jes like everybody here
question is having read his ignorant remarks do you think its unbaised or do you think the last few years in NY got to his head ;D
some of dese middle eastern man have a complex when it comes 2 de US, not everything bad about de states sah, bush and saddam an dem was all in de same bed, u shouldnt talk bc ur saudi brothers causin most of de plight for de muslim world, so wat de hell u talkin about
no one said every thing is bad... it just remains a country that lives and thrives on making others seem "evil"
blacks, Japanese, jews, communists, and now arabs and muslims.
I think many Americans are great guys, I think the american society has many positives... but Having been in BOTH CANADA AND THE US recently its different ... in canada people are more accepting of others... (Ever feel how it is like to be pulled aside in an airport and interogated like a dog ? have your finger prints and photo taken ? ever walk down the street and have police follow you because you are of a certain skin? thats what I had when I went to the states, same with my Bahraini freinds, and even some canadians who look arabic) I think with the exception of the high taxes, and winter Canada is prolly the best country in the world to live in.
as for the saudi comment offcourse ... no one would love to write an essay to you detailing the evil neighbour we have more than me ... thats the point ... when I throw a comment its because I know, I've experienced it ...
when he throwin a comment he is just being ignorant about things he does not really know other than what the media tells him
just for the record ... I think Saudi is worst than the US government BY FAR, one look at the history of Bahrain and you know ... they brought their tribal mentality, they attacked, they waged wars, murdered, stole lands etc... thats history though ... now they mistreat women ! they mistread shia muslims, they put down their people on basis of tribal background ... they gave birth to wahabism ... which has plagued muslims
I don't take comments like his that generalize, minimalizes another group of people lightly ...
If anything I am an apposition to the monarchy system in my country... my family has given their lives, careers to fight and stand against injustice ... and for him to come and say that I am a brainwashed person with no opinion is annoying ...
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well I come to say that Sancho openly fall out with he coach to come home and bench for Trinidad and Tobago - that is commitment.
ps. allyuh kill the old talk bout who civilised and not...one more day for the big day.
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well I come to say that Sancho openly fall out with he coach to come home and bench for Trinidad and Tobago - that is commitment.
ps. allyuh kill the old talk bout who civilised and not...one more day for the big day.
you are right I shouldn't have responded ...
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WHEN IT COME TO THE WORLD CUP WHY THE HELL NOT IT COULD SWING EITHER WAY FOR ANY PLAYER WITH A SHOT AT THE WORLD CUP AT STAKE
I WOULD DEAL WITH THE FLAK AS IT COMES BUT HANDS DOWN COUNTRY FIRST
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All the pressure put on by club teams, I don't think any has sacked a player for representing his country.
In the end, the longevity you will gain from representing your country far outweighs any club team.
You have one country, but a million clubs to choose from, if one sack yuh, you can negotiate with another one. If yuh is not a sh!thound, no club team go drop yuh.
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We talkin about countries where there is freedom and democracy
Not open brainwashing, monarchy and fiefdom.
Allyuh men mad!! ... allyuh men holding up pictures of a MORTAL and praising it like is God.
.... and doh tell me ah lie ... cuz the pictures there from Saturday.
... and yuh talkin about CHRIST - Bahrain wasn't even a damn soverignity before Christ - so hush yuh damn uneducated backside. Show me a map and history books that record the tenants of the Kingdom of Bahrain.
That was un-called for. In addition, nobody is more brain-washed than Americans. They want to spread democracy to the Middle East and they don't even have it in their own country. But let's not turn the discussion political. :D
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We talkin about countries where there is freedom and democracy
Not open brainwashing, monarchy and fiefdom.
Allyuh men mad!! ... allyuh men holding up pictures of a MORTAL and praising it like is God.
.... and doh tell me ah lie ... cuz the pictures there from Saturday.
... and yuh talkin about CHRIST - Bahrain wasn't even a damn soverignity before Christ - so hush yuh damn uneducated backside. Show me a map and history books that record the tenants of the Kingdom of Bahrain.
brainwashing ?
let me guess you live in the states ? where every one outside is uneducated(bahraini educational standards are excellent especially compared to American and Canadian standards), evil (we've lived side by side with people from different color, religion for thousands of years... we are not some gung ho lets go kill "inferiors" like some continent), and brainwashed into a murderer ? ;D ;D
or where blacks are considered criminal until proven other wise, and where arabs are islamic terrorists ?
if that is democracy they can keep it ... and shove it where the sun don't shine
also muslims don't believe in the divinity of man ... even with christ (who is the islamic messiah) ;) while I think its stupid to raise the king;s picture... he does represent our country :)
As for Bahrain it is termed by historians as one of the "cradles of human civilization" we've been around since the creation of human society
see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilmun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bahrain
Good post.
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funny thing you might ask this question eh breds cause all the men in foreign could agree with meh that
nothing sweeter than trini. breds when yuh sneakers new in usa men doesnt even notice
when you have on ah new pair of shoes in trini all man jack giving yuh ah compliment
iz just yuh does appreciate thing more in trini and i would sacrifice anything for my country
i doh business what it iz money,club,ankle,toenail.
in the end after yuh career done yuh could still go down maracas and lime and get ah laugh
my answer is yes
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well, something you'll all see in the next match; ya might have never seen before..
Picture of the king are distributed to the fans to hang during the match.. Well, that's why the tickets are free..
still, we have stupid minds out there..
Though our country is one of the freest in the region, the kingship we have will always make it like this...
People sucrifised allot to get to where we are in Bahrain, I lost many friends & family members in the 1990s, where the government acts like Saddam..
Now, after reforms, expect to see some backwarded metalities, that asks people to hang the king's pictures for the sake of fame..
God bless freedom
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let me guess you live in the states ? where every one outside is uneducated, evil and brainwashed into a murderer ? ;D ;D
or where blacks are considered criminal until proven other wise, and where arabs are islamic terrorists ?
the man born, grow and was schooled in Trinidad out of the bubble of the USA so the man could make an unbiased assessment jes like everybody here
question is having read his ignorant remarks do you think its unbaised or do you think the last few years in NY got to his head ;D
some of dese middle eastern man have a complex when it comes 2 de US, not everything bad about de states sah, bush and saddam an dem was all in de same bed, u shouldnt talk bc ur saudi brothers causin most of de plight for de muslim world, so wat de hell u talkin about
no one said every thing is bad... it just remains a country that lives and thrives on making others seem "evil"
blacks, Japanese, jews, communists, and now arabs and muslims.
I think many Americans are great guys, I think the american society has many positives... but Having been in BOTH CANADA AND THE US recently its different ... in canada people are more accepting of others... (Ever feel how it is like to be pulled aside in an airport and interogated like a dog ? have your finger prints and photo taken ? ever walk down the street and have police follow you because you are of a certain skin? thats what I had when I went to the states, same with my Bahraini freinds, and even some canadians who look arabic) I think with the exception of the high taxes, and winter Canada is prolly the best country in the world to live in.
as for the saudi comment offcourse ... no one would love to write an essay to you detailing the evil neighbour we have more than me ... thats the point ... when I throw a comment its because I know, I've experienced it ...
when he throwin a comment he is just being ignorant about things he does not really know other than what the media tells him
just for the record ... I think Saudi is worst than the US government BY FAR, one look at the history of Bahrain and you know ... they brought their tribal mentality, they attacked, they waged wars, murdered, stole lands etc... thats history though ... now they mistreat women ! they mistread shia muslims, they put down their people on basis of tribal background ... they gave birth to wahabism ... which has plagued muslims
I don't take comments like his that generalize, minimalizes another group of people lightly ...
If anything I am an apposition to the monarchy system in my country... my family has given their lives, careers to fight and stand against injustice ... and for him to come and say that I am a brainwashed person with no opinion is annoying ...
Another good post.
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Boy, dey have some real cu.nts on this forum...
You sounding like dem right wing Christian fundamentalist from the south, a bunch of hypocitical SOBs, man, f**k all ah allyuh, allyuh go bring an end to de US and the world, why yuh doh register for Bush oil war for which he claims God spoke to him that Iraq was the way to go? Doh come here wid Bush Freedom f**kery nah, doh geh meh vex....
Anyway, onto Wednesday...
We talkin about countries where there is freedom and democracy
Not open brainwashing, monarchy and fiefdom.
Allyuh men mad!! ... allyuh men holding up pictures of a MORTAL and praising it like is God.
.... and doh tell me ah lie ... cuz the pictures there from Saturday.
... and yuh talkin about CHRIST - Bahrain wasn't even a damn soverignity before Christ - so hush yuh damn uneducated backside. Show me a map and history books that record the tenants of the Kingdom of Bahrain.
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Boy, dey have some real cu.nts on this forum...
You sounding like dem right wing Christian fundamentalist from the south, a bunch of hypocitical SOBs, man, f**k all ah allyuh, allyuh go bring an end to de US and the world, why yuh doh register for Bush oil war for which he claims God spoke to him that Iraq was the way to go? Doh come here wid Bush Freedom f**kery nah, doh geh meh vex....
Anyway, onto Wednesday...
We talkin about countries where there is freedom and democracy
Not open brainwashing, monarchy and fiefdom.
Allyuh men mad!! ... allyuh men holding up pictures of a MORTAL and praising it like is God.
.... and doh tell me ah lie ... cuz the pictures there from Saturday.
... and yuh talkin about CHRIST - Bahrain wasn't even a damn soverignity before Christ - so hush yuh damn uneducated backside. Show me a map and history books that record the tenants of the Kingdom of Bahrain.
CROSS!! ANGRY!! MISERABLE!! :D
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SANCHO NEEDS TO PLAY IN THIS GAME! HE DESERVES IT FOR HIS SACRIFICE..NOT TO MENTION ALL HIS HARD WORK TO THIS POINT... BEENIE MAN DOH STICK!!
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I doh feel any of us in a position to really make that choice. It much easier to say either or when u on the outside looking in. In a case like this, where we one game away from the World Cup...fire bun d club ! But in a case like game against Bermuda and Dominican Republic, even though is world cup qualifiers...if coach going to put me on the bench and a man like Van Nisteroy going and take my starting spot...i would hadda tell the country to understand.
And then when u read things like Leonson Lewis and Clayton Morris fight up in skinner park and cah get tickets for the game....u wonder what would happen to your ass if u turn ur back on your club, your country doh fail to qualify and then u getting disrespected like this? Whereas men like Latas and Yorke, who turn their back on us in the past...will be heroes for life because of what they achieve overseas. i mean,who honestly expect to see Yorke and Latas to have to fight up in a crowd for tickets next 10 years to see Trinidad games? Leonson was part of the triumvate in them times(where stern is now) with Yorke and Latas and look where he end up...Stern better watch he self if he doh start scoring goals in England despite all he has done for us !!
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Boy, dey have some real cu.nts on this forum...
You sounding like dem right wing Christian fundamentalist from the south, a bunch of hypocitical SOBs, man, f**k all ah allyuh, allyuh go bring an end to de US and the world, why yuh doh register for Bush oil war for which he claims God spoke to him that Iraq was the way to go? Doh come here wid Bush Freedom f**kery nah, doh geh meh vex....
Anyway, onto Wednesday...
We talkin about countries where there is freedom and democracy
Not open brainwashing, monarchy and fiefdom.
Allyuh men mad!! ... allyuh men holding up pictures of a MORTAL and praising it like is God.
.... and doh tell me ah lie ... cuz the pictures there from Saturday.
... and yuh talkin about CHRIST - Bahrain wasn't even a damn soverignity before Christ - so hush yuh damn uneducated backside. Show me a map and history books that record the tenants of the Kingdom of Bahrain.
Of course I am an infidel. I drink rum and eat pork .. what you expect?
Republican - yes ... cuz I don't subscribe to the WAGGONISM of the Democrap party. There is no bigger bunch of WAGGONISTS in the world with a single subscription that the left.
But back to the topic ... I don't know what allyuh men trying to get over?
We are CAPITALISTS ... in Trinidad, in the US ... in the FREE WORLD governed by whatever form of Democracy, we ARE capitalists and you can't deny that. Those of us who have chosen to leave Trinidad were not forced to ... we chose to, for better opportunites and the chance for a better livelihood. All the flood, crime, corruption etc that's going on in Trini ..... I don't see anyone here putting up their hand and volunteering to leave their JOB to go back and help out. Why? ..... cuz when you decide to come back for your job in the US, Europe, or wherever you might be ... you FIRED!!
Footballers are the same way ... PFL can't pay sh!t - playing for TT does not pay sh!t ... so they go on to European clubs who pay them based on their merit. If they go to TT all the time to play, they will get benched - they will begin to lose contract money, or put themselves in a sitatuation where they are forsaking their employers.
To ask them to make a bigger sacrifice is downright selfish.
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We talkin about countries where there is freedom and democracy
Not open brainwashing, monarchy and fiefdom.
Allyuh men mad!! ... allyuh men holding up pictures of a MORTAL and praising it like is God.
.... and doh tell me ah lie ... cuz the pictures there from Saturday.
... and yuh talkin about CHRIST - Bahrain wasn't even a damn soverignity before Christ - so hush yuh damn uneducated backside. Show me a map and history books that record the tenants of the Kingdom of Bahrain.
brainwashing ?
let me guess you live in the states ? where every one outside is uneducated(bahraini educational standards are excellent especially compared to American and Canadian standards), evil (we've lived side by side with people from different color, religion for thousands of years... we are not some gung ho lets go kill "inferiors" like some continent), and brainwashed into a murderer ? ;D ;D
or where blacks are considered criminal until proven other wise, and where arabs are islamic terrorists ?
if that is democracy they can keep it ... and shove it where the sun don't shine
also muslims don't believe in the divinity of man ... even with christ (who is the islamic messiah) ;) while I think its stupid to raise the king;s picture... he does represent our country :)
As for Bahrain it is termed by historians as one of the "cradles of human civilization" we've been around since the creation of human society
see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilmun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bahrain
Ah man brong out the wikipedia - very credible indeed, since I can start my own Wikipedia on the Art of the Fart, and how it originated under a shattine tree in deep Moruga.
Indeed I live in the states .... and it's my propoganda vs yours. Everyone outside is usually uneducated, except for the great IT schools in India that are the best in the world at the moment, the great British schools that I get the foundation of my education, the great schools in Italy, Northern Africa, South Africa, Australia, Japan, China, Russia, Europe, South America and Central America where me and my fellow American students study abroad all the time. Yeah ... so everyone else is stupid - that's why we go there to learn.
hahaha ... let's not go kill inferiors? ..... hahaha .... hoss, it have a ting called the Crusades .... if you don't believe me, you might believe Orlando Bloom - he fought in the crusades with Brittney Spears and Tupac.
You guys don't kill inferiors ... you just kill infidels and non-believers.
Hardly unacceptable by my immoral standards.
But what am I wasting my time trying to argue with the direct descendents of "the cradle of human civilisation and human society" - it was on full display showing the wrath of man .... cheating, pillaging and faking at it's best on Saturday.
What an example to lead by - I guess we should look up to your king and pay him homage too.