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Title: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: SUPA on November 20, 2005, 09:41:51 PM
The Miami/Broward Herald newspaper stated that "not all is rooting for T&T". The paper said that the Uruguayans soccer fans probably won't fall in love with the soca warriors next summer, because their team was far more deserving of a world cup berth than T&T. The writer also said that the very least, T&T should face Uruguay in the playoff, because we(T&T) are geographically closer than Bahrain and Australia.

Living in Florida, I do understand how some people do feel for Uruguay, because there is a lot of south americans here. But with that said, why all of a sudden to some people, the way the playoff is set up, it is a problem to them. To make it short and simple, T&T and Uruguay both had a job to do, the warriors took care of business and Uruguay failed to do so. Mr Leo have about 6 months to get the warriors ready for the big stage, and I know they will put tears in some people eyes. 
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: TriniCana on November 20, 2005, 09:44:13 PM
The Miami/Broward Herald newspaper stated that "not all is rooting for T&T". The paper said that the Uruguayans soccer fans probably won't fall in love with the soca warriors next summer, because their team was far more deserving of a world cup berth than T&T. The writer also said that the very least, T&T should face Uruguay in the playoff, because we(T&T) are geographically closer than Bahrain and Australia.

Living in Florida, I do understand how some people do feel for Uruguay, because there is a lot of south americans here. But with that said, why all of a sudden to some people, the way the playoff is set up, it is a problem to them. To make it short and simple, T&T and Uruguay both had a job to do, the warriors took care of business and Uruguay failed to do so. Mr Leo have about 6 months to get the warriors ready for the big stage, and I know they will put tears in some people eyes. 


Let he hull he mudder ass. 
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: BigToe on November 20, 2005, 09:47:41 PM
$hit happens and who asked his flicking opinion. True that, we got it done and they didn't.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Disgruntled_Trini on November 20, 2005, 09:52:45 PM
if yuh see ah Uraguaian anywhere ask them why they more deserving of a WC place than Trinidad
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: truetrini on November 20, 2005, 09:56:01 PM
if dey was so deserving den dem shoulda do de business and not have to resort to ah shoot out or even ah playoff vs Aussies dem.

steups.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: TrinInfinite on November 20, 2005, 09:57:26 PM
dey only vex we make it and dey didnt, dey need someone tuh blame and we are de smallest, so dey will blame us, well hard luck, when we make it and surprise some people, dey will shut their mouth one time

vibes it up
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Touches on November 20, 2005, 09:58:36 PM
Its a case of sour grapes and when yuh country doe make it yuh does look for any excuse to see who worthy and who should go.

At the end of the day it is the best teams in your region that goes, if they played a lil better and were an automatic qualifier, the writer would not have needed to pen such a piece.

If yuh check it I glad TT going because it is the Caribbean that will be represented a Island team. We ent need no more South or Central AMerican sides across there.

They have plenty other teams who better than us who ent make it but who gives a shit. We qualified and for all the haters........we earned our spot.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: SUPA on November 20, 2005, 10:01:54 PM
 Just for the records, I just checked the article again, and the writer is a female.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: cm103 on November 20, 2005, 10:12:47 PM
Dem trying to sell papers...we should write ah article for d Guardian wid d headline "Herald full ah Sh*t"...people go buy dat
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: truetrini on November 20, 2005, 10:13:21 PM
besides a true WC should have teams from all parts ah de world and we are distinctly different from Central americans, s americans and Namericans..so we representing!
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: TrinInfinite on November 20, 2005, 10:14:51 PM
allyuh have time tuh take dem on, who cares who rootin 4 we, as long as our nation is behind dem, we shouldnt worry about anyting else

vibes it up

we ent beggin no friend or supporter
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: supaselectuh on November 20, 2005, 10:20:50 PM
ah nex case ah sour grapes
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: fishs on November 20, 2005, 10:29:28 PM
When Jamaica qualified, the italians coach who beat russia in a playoff had said that it was a pity that a good side like russia would not be going to the wc but jamaica would.

Life is rough, take your chances when you can and make sure you use it to the fullest.
When T&T start to buss up side in Germany all dis shit talk will disappear like football in monteviedo.

Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on November 20, 2005, 10:31:18 PM
who vex loss!!
hard lucks to dem
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: dutchman on November 20, 2005, 10:47:32 PM
Trust me
it's good to sometimes be kicked out.
I'm happy the Dutch were out last time, so now we can me more HUNGRY ;)

so to Turkey:
sorry guys but Switersland is just better & you deserve to be out.
with your ''welcome to Hell'' treatment

so for Uruguay.
ok you're probably better then Australia but fysically not.
I guess you lost it on that ;)

so to Bahrain:
Man you're all ghosts against T&T, but I can imagine since you had realized that you didn't past the ozbekies with football.

so to Norway.
sorry guys you're good but the Tjech's better, you still have the prettiest country in the world.

slovenia ,
you just got licks, Spain to big for you
&
slovenia under 21
sorry but Huntelaar ( Holland) gave you licks 

boy what a sweet day the 16th of november  ;)



Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Peong on November 20, 2005, 11:54:24 PM
Jeezan, wha we go do now?  Uruguay not supportin us?  This is a disaster.

Or maybe Uruguay's support is the furthest thing from our mind and we don't give a sh*t what they think at this point.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Savannah boy on November 21, 2005, 12:24:52 AM
Excuses are the currency of losers.  :notlistening: :party: :challenge: :arguing: :cursing: :banginghead: :yapping: :whistling:
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: canadiantrini on November 21, 2005, 12:25:48 AM
dem fellas in uruguay just lookin for some scapegoat..me cant believe dhey ave de nerve to say tings like dat.   its der fault dhey not in dey word cup.  dhey shouldnt be placin der problems on T&T. my only words to dem is....'2010 is four years away.'
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: fishs on November 21, 2005, 01:18:31 AM
By Brian Homewood (Reuters)
Finishing fourth out of six in a group containing the United States, Mexico, Costa Rica, Guatemala and Panama, then beating Bahrain, was good enough to get Trinidad & Tobago to the World Cup.

Twice former champions Uruguay will miss out on Germany 2006 despite drawing home and away with world champions Brazil and beating Argentina.

If the two sides were to meet directly, Uruguay would almost certainly beat the Soca Warriors, many of whose players ply their trade with minor British clubs.

While Trinidad's first World Cup appearance will add colour to the World Cup and has delighted the small Caribbean island nation, their place in the finals has done more than anything to highlight the anomalies of the regional qualifying system.

Nowadays, when major clubs nip off to Asia for a quick pre-season tour, it is hard to imagine why the World Cup qualifiers still need to be divided into regions.

An alternative system would be for Fifa to organise regional preliminaries to weed out the smaller nations, then throw the remainder into, for example, 15 worldwide groups of six with the top two in each qualifying for the finals. The hosts and champions would take the total to 32.

The so-called Third World countries of Latin America and Africa, whose role in soccer is primarily as suppliers of raw talent for the big-money leagues of Europe, would get to see some of the world's top players in action.

There would be fewer games for the bigger nations, no bickering over how many places each region should receive at the finals and, providing the contest was properly seeded, a much better chance of the world's best 32 national teams all reaching the World Cup.

MORE DIFFICULT

For under the present set-up it would almost have been more difficult for Trinidad & Tobago not to reach the finals.

First came a two-leg tie against the Dominican Republic, before matches against the even smaller Caribbean nations of St Vincent & Grenadines and St Kitts & Nevis.

That took them into this year's six-team final stage where, despite five losses in 10 games including a 5-1 drubbing by Guatemala, they were able to qualify for the two-leg playoff against Bahrain, where a 2-1 aggregate win saw them through.

Meanwhile, Uruguay, who finished fifth out of 10 after 18 games in the much tougher South American group, were forced to travel around the world to face Australia in a playoff when it would have been geographically more logical for them to play Trinidad & Tobago and the Socceroos to face Bahrain.

After two matches of unremitting tension and a 1-1 aggregate draw, Australia won on penalties.

As a result, CONCACAF, a confederation where Mexico is the nearest thing to a major soccer power, will have four finalists in Germany, the same as South America, whose teams have between them have won nine of the 17 tournaments to date.

Fifa has never been, and will almost certainly never be able to keep everyone happy with how they decide how many World Cup slots to allocate to each continent.

South America, for example, will have only one more place at the 32-team tournament in Germany than in 1978, when there were only 16 finalists.

As a major provider of talent for European clubs and the continent which did more than any other to start the World Cup, the South Americans believe they deserve at least five automatic places at the finals.

POLITICAL PRISONERS

Other regions snipe back saying that, with only 10 countries, that would mean half the continent's teams taking part.

Asia has never done better than South Korea's fourth place in 2002, yet within hours of the Czech Republic completing the line-up for Germany on Wednesday night, they were asking to add to their four-and-half places.

"We have always wanted more places for Asia," said Monamed Bin Hamman, president of the Asian Football Confederation on Thursday.

As a compromise to the bickering, Fifa has created intercontinental playoffs which once involved Hungary playing Bolivia home and away and Scotland having to travel to Australia to earn their place at the 1986 World Cup.

Perhaps the most famous and ill-fated was in 1973 when the Soviet Union were paired with Chile, where a military coup had just ousted the socialist government of Salvador Allende.

Having been held 0-0 in Moscow in the first leg, the Soviets refused to play the return, alleging that Santiago's National Stadium had been used to hold and torture political prisoners.

Fifa awarded Chile a walkover and the South Americans celebrated by taking to the field and symbolically scoring a goal.

More than 30 years on, with top footballers now major beneficiaries of the industrialisation and globalisation of the sport, perhaps the time is right for football to embrace its global appeal with a truly global World Cup qualifying programme.


Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Themanfriday on November 21, 2005, 01:36:00 AM
Okay ok then lets play Uruguay and whip de A$$
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Jayerson on November 21, 2005, 05:39:01 AM
Just my thought, but if Uruguay couldn't get past Ecuador what makes them think that they have a divine right to the WC.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: greenpea on November 21, 2005, 05:53:03 AM
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Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Teflon Don on November 21, 2005, 06:03:21 AM
All i have to say is uraguay stay still doh move..........  :flamethrower:
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: jaden on November 21, 2005, 06:20:51 AM
uruguay could not get pass the oceania group winners that only have half spot in the world cup, but they more deserving than our warriors........what the f*#k i does be hearing boy.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Tenorsaw on November 21, 2005, 06:38:56 AM
Who quarrelling?  Ah team that still gloating over its prehistoric World Cup wins.  LeH dem  hull they MC.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Sentinel on November 21, 2005, 06:40:23 AM
Ah giving dem a Jack.  Who is Uruguay?

Luv U T&T
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: injunchile on November 21, 2005, 07:38:33 AM
T&T vs URUGUAY at the Orange Bowl. The best thing about Uruguay football team is that they bring out the ladies at the games. They also cry a lot and will need comforting arms after we give them a good licking.
To all the single men out there- A good game to attend.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: truetrini on November 21, 2005, 07:55:07 AM
T&T vs URUGUAY at the Orange Bowl. The best thing about Uruguay football team is that they bring out the ladies at the games. They also cry a lot and will need comforting arms after we give them a good licking.
To all the single men out there- A good game to attend.

But yuh getting fresh breds   ;) :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Hyperhot J on November 21, 2005, 08:01:30 AM
    Uruguay hold your arse! You know Uruguay means: U r gay!! So hold dong each other!! Why all yuh doh go and get on because Togo and Angola in the WC eh!!! I personally did not believe they were deserving but say what. WE are there and I care not of any country now. I care about my country and let everyone else care for theirs I eh have time to study or take on anyone else.

J!
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Mr Mc on November 21, 2005, 08:33:54 AM
Uruguay...HYMC!!!!

So I guess if both Trinidad and Urguguay made it to the WC and we ended up in an easier group and made it to the 2nd rounds they would then be crying that were they in our group and they would surely have made the 2nd rounds if they were in the other group...HARD LUCK!!!

Jack let we play Uruguay in a friendly before the WC, its a win win situation.  If we beat them we prove we better, if we lose they will just cry that much more when they see us on TV in Germany, because win lose or draw we deserve our spot and we earned it.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Cantona007 on November 21, 2005, 08:48:37 AM
This article quoted by Fishs has to be the biggest set of tata that has been written about the qualification process. There isn't even a slight attempt at logic. I also find the condescending nature offensive; he talks about the thirld world countries having the benefit of seeing the worl'd top players in action. Last time I checked, the best player in the world was from a "thirld world" country.
Doing away with regional qualification... some people does just open dey mouth and sh!t does come out.

Steupsssssss!
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Pointman on November 21, 2005, 12:18:16 PM
Maybe is jes me but ah doh really understand dis concept of " deserving" ah place in the WC. One deserves ah place if one has enough points from qualifications. I also have to believe that Uruguay probably thinks that they should have to play us instead of Aus. maybe they think they could beat us. Hull dey ass...stay home and watch we...allyuh MC.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: JDB on November 21, 2005, 12:36:07 PM
The WC is about a small band of favourites and a bunch of outsiders.

Whether Uruguay is better than us is irrelevant because they are still outsiders, they are not winning no WC if they can't be in the SA top four.

They knew what they needed to do to book their ticket and they didn't do it.
 It is not as if somebody change the rules on them at the last minute.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: grskywalker on November 21, 2005, 12:39:09 PM
The Miami/Broward Herald newspaper stated that "not all is rooting for T&T". The paper said that the Uruguayans soccer fans probably won't fall in love with the soca warriors next summer, because their team was far more deserving of a world cup berth than T&T. The writer also said that the very least, T&T should face Uruguay in the playoff, because we(T&T) are geographically closer than Bahrain and Australia.

Living in Florida, I do understand how some people do feel for Uruguay, because there is a lot of south americans here. But with that said, why all of a sudden to some people, the way the playoff is set up, it is a problem to them. To make it short and simple, T&T and Uruguay both had a job to do, the warriors took care of business and Uruguay failed to do so. Mr Leo have about 6 months to get the warriors ready for the big stage, and I know they will put tears in some people eyes. 

This make no sense whatsoever, yuh can't get upset about things you cannot control. Our game had nothing to do with Uruaguay, what the hell the vex for we ain't make them miss them penalties and who the hell cares what they think.
They will be watching it at home like Bahrain and Guatemala.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: real madness on November 21, 2005, 12:46:29 PM
I don't know why people care about what other countries think.  It doh matter if Bahrain, Panama, Guatemala,Scotland, Uruguay, Jamaica, etc. support us or not.  The most important thing is whether or not Trinis support the Soca Warriors..of course we will have fans from other countries but there will also be some haters.  Let de haters HATE and don't pay them any attention.  All I know is I going germany somehow next year and I supporting whether we winning 1-0 or losing 10-0.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Alsalman on November 21, 2005, 01:49:11 PM
those people are haters ... they are against us because we are smaller countries than they are ...

if Uruguay deserves to go they would have beat Austrailia no ? ... If those European teams deserves to go they would have qualified ...

this is BS ... its the WC not the Euro-SouthAmerican cup (funny note ... with the exception of Brazil and Argentina the other SouthAmerican teams are average at best)
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Grande on November 21, 2005, 03:25:57 PM
Uruguay juss bitter about de first-time countries because Senegal bun' dem in 2002 and send dem out of the tournament.
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Midknight on November 21, 2005, 08:56:24 PM
The truth be told...A lot of people (mostly Australians and Asians) have been complaining about the fact that the Concacaf 4th place wasn't going to meet the South American 5th place for at least a year now. The fact that the Uruguayans (having lost out unexpectedly to the Oz) are now complaining however just shows the bitterness and hating that abounds.

However, that said, the only people that will miss the Uruguyans in the World Cup are the Uruguayans. You know that things are bad when Argentina accuses you of being a dirty playing team... :rotfl:
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Themanfriday on December 01, 2005, 04:04:28 AM
So dey dutty :rotfl: :rotfl:
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: marcovbasten on December 01, 2005, 09:28:57 AM
4 years ago holland lost the tie for the worldcup from ireland.
we cried.
but didnt blame korea or another small soccercountry.

jalousy is a bad thing.
be happy for the ones who made it.

see you in the final

peace
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Socapro on December 01, 2005, 02:19:30 PM
T&T vs URUGUAY at the Orange Bowl. The best thing about Uruguay football team is that they bring out the ladies at the games. They also cry a lot and will need comforting arms after we give them a good licking.
To all the single men out there- A good game to attend.

This is a good idea! Jack please get this one organised we need to show these Uruguayians that we maybe small but we are no push overs!  >:(

This should be a good warm-up game for us and also make the TTFF some dosh!  ;D

Headliner "The Grudge Match, T&T vs Uruguay, South American World Cup Veterans vs Caribbean First Timers, Did T&T deserve to qualify when Uruguay did not? Come See the Game & You Decide!"   ::)
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: PantherX on December 01, 2005, 07:11:20 PM
As usual people miss the important points.

1/ The World Cup is not meant as a tournament for the 32 best teams but a global celebration of football. How much interest would there if the World Cup was predominantly European and South American teams with a few others to fill in the blanks and the rest perpetually on the outside looking in?

2/ In 2002 2/5 CONMEBOL teams made it to the second round while CONCACAF had 2/3, AFC 2/4, CAF 1/5 and UEFA 8/15.

Consider also that the other 2 Asian teams finshed the group stages without scoring a single goal nor achieving a point.

Would the World Cup be more enriched by the presence of Uruguay as opposed to TnT?  And does anyone other than Uruguay rthink so?

Furthermore.......Does anyone other than the AFC relly think that they deserve another team in the World cup.

Every four years there's always somebody sour because they failed to get the job done and the whining begins.

NEVER listen to whiners.


 

Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: whayuhsay on December 01, 2005, 07:40:28 PM
I have been saying they should get rid of Oceana, throw Australia in the Asian zone and give dem 5 spots.

I think we would have beaten Uruguay in a playoff, dem is nutten special, good history but not today.  If we could beat Mexico on more than one occasion, we could beat Uruguay.

The problem with South America is how yuh go give 5 spots to a continent with 10 countries? 

My solution is either throw Central America and South America together, give dem 6 spots.  Let the Caribbean and North America have 2 spots.  Tork done!

OR

Leave it as is and let Concacaf play the playoff with South America and leh we cut dey arse.  Maybe 2-3 years ago, there was a competition down south with some Central American teams and most ah dem South American coutries get wood.

OR

Give South America 5 spots and let Concacaf play a playoff with the 5th place African team, reducing Africa to 4.5 spots.  Lets face it, all dem African teams sucked in de last WC.
 
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: TrinInfinite on December 01, 2005, 07:46:10 PM
african teams suck? wat de hell i hearin here, ghana suck? ivory coast suck? senegal suck? south africa suck? nigeria suck?

yuh mad or wha, africa should be given more spots, de hardest qualifying not out of south america, iz africa
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: truetrini on December 01, 2005, 07:51:54 PM
african teams suck? wat de hell i hearin here, ghana suck? ivory coast suck? senegal suck? south africa suck? nigeria suck?

yuh mad or wha, africa should be given more spots, de hardest qualifying not out of south america, iz africa

me eh know if I should say dis nah..but ok...errr. well...mmmmm, uhhmmmmnnn///I..ahhhhh. errrr, well, I agree with ..with..i agree with......well how can I say it..ahhhhhhhh....ok...lordie lordie...arggghhhhhhhh!

oh gorm boy....I agreeeeeee with TrinInfinite
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: whayuhsay on December 01, 2005, 07:53:09 PM
Yuh blind or yuh cyar read?  I said "African teams sucked in de last WC"

De last world cup breds, but since yuh so smart and proud of dem African teams, please lookup their record for the last WC, in fact check out the last two WCs, overall, it is not good, Cocacaf has had a much better showing.  If those 5 teams show poorly in 2K6, I say takeaway a half spot from dem.

african teams suck? wat de hell i hearin here, ghana suck? ivory coast suck? senegal suck? south africa suck? nigeria suck?

yuh mad or wha, africa should be given more spots, de hardest qualifying not out of south america, iz africa
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: A.B. on December 01, 2005, 08:31:50 PM
KYAH KYAH

This is too funny to me. Welcome to the big time...the more successful you are the more writers worldwide that will talk the biggest pile of shytt you have ever heard.....welcome to the club Warriors!.....how much time u see Lara bashed by some idiot who probably can't even spell 'silly-mid-on'....well it's because he is big time.....Warriors should be proud to have this much tripe dedicated to them - that is real bitterness.....

Remember that most sports journalists are failed ______ and then you will be fine.....

I had to learn that when I was 18. 

The nerve of any of these people to talk about who is more deserving to be at the WC. 

In business, you get what you negotiate and what you earn, not what you think you deserve.

This is business!  They are trying to make it personal.

BITCHEZ!
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: raj on December 01, 2005, 09:10:03 PM
Hypothetically if it was Mexico or Honduras who won against Bahrain for the playoff spot Uruguay would not have been  whingeing. Many of the Uruguayans I know stateside are racist. If you cant execute against a cricket playing country then you deserve to watch the games on pay per view at $50 US a game.... friggin idiots.

Crying over spilt milk. They need to concentrate on Ecuador and Paraguay and how they could bridge the gap between them. Last time I checked both these South American countries did not win any World Cups amongst them. If Uruguay cannot shift their focus they will probably never make the cup again. >:(
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Teflon Don on December 01, 2005, 09:15:52 PM
its simple uraguay u all think u all she be in the world cup, well then u all shoulda win allyuh wcq group :flamethrower:
Title: Re: Not all rooting for T&T
Post by: Pointman on December 01, 2005, 09:20:07 PM
Allyuh still ha time wid Uruguay...let dem gripe, in the end they still staying home and watching we.