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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Teflon Don on December 04, 2005, 04:42:47 PM
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I personally doh want Zamora on de team, I doh think he will give de team 110%. Also I think Beenhakker first priority is players who getting a regular sweat in whichever clubs they playing in, thus I believe Samuel go have wait for a spot under Dog, not de other way around. Remember Dog playing in one of de best teams in the SPL plus he gettin Champs league football. That said, this is why de Stern John issue worryin meh b/c he eh even getting selected these days and if that continues for even a couple months Beenhakker might not select him as first-choice striker anymore, and yuh can't blame him for that. Ah eh know what the mudda @#% wrong with de Derby coach, he have his head up he bottom.
Grande man made a valid point about stern john not playing and beenieman not selecting players who have not been seeing much playing time.
Tell me ppl allyuh think stern should do?
1)try to be transferlisted to a new club where he guaranteed playing time
2)Go back to the mls on a short term loan jus to get playing time b4 the world cup
3)Beg for a 6 month loan deal to Jabloteh :rotfl:
4)Stick it out with derby and risk not being selected
5)____________________________ <------------------(put ur own opinion there)
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im just begging to see that man become the top all time international goal scorer... i dunno it doh seem like man apriciate him... ???
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i say move on to ah next team man :(
score some more boss goals fuh we
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I don't think stern will do anything drastic unlesss Beenie tells him that his lack of first team action will put his starting position in jeopardy for us, it wasn't like he was playing regularly before the last set of qualifiers. Me personally i think he should look for some first team action
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So who say moving to a next team will solve the problem for Stern? What Stern have to do is RAISE HIS GAME and stop walking around the field complaining.
He performs best under pressure it seems, so look for him to get on track again once the playing time resumes over the hectic Christmas schedule.
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yuh cyar raise yuh game if yuh not playing
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Now dont get me wrong eh i not making fun of d man...dis is a serious question....i supporting d man long time thru thick and thin....ah almost get beat up in d guatemala game cuz d men behind bawling take of stern whole game and it start to get to meh so much dat ah had to tell dem hull dey odder c**t.......thank god dey had a police man close by :rotfl:
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yuh cyar raise yuh game if yuh not playing
On the training ground bossman. Show your hunger to get out there and you will get playing time.
We all know Stern like to sulk and pout and complain. I feel is that self he doing right through training etc.
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Stern is Beenie horse ;D and every coach needs a few in his team so whether Stern with Derby or Jabloteh once he fit and could score goals and training hard...he goin to start in Germany!
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Stern is Beenie horse ;D and every coach needs a few in his team so whether Stern with Derby or Jabloteh once he fit and could score goals and training hard...he goin to start in Germany!
i say d jabloteh thing just to bring lil humour to the post but on a real....what allyuh think about stern joining Jabs for a 6months jus to get playing time b4 the world cup
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yuh cyar raise yuh game if yuh not playing
Fuh friggin real.
Everytime ah see de weekly "Trinis in action" thread, ah still seeing Stern John: Not Selected. Ah does get upset. De man just have to get into a team where he kickin the ball on a regular basis, keepin in de game, physically and mentally. He is a powerful striker wit excellent balance and ball control and finishing and ah would HATE tuh see him on de bench in Germany juss b/c he eh get ah sweat.
I eh know what de Derby coach have against him. Whenever he go back to Coventry ah hope dey give him enough playing time. If not, juss find any club b/c iz only six months left for the big dance and he have to keep it goin. Yuh doh bench a star striker like dat.
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But Morvantman even when he was playing he ent raise the level of he game,respectfully disagreeing with yuh on that one and at the same time thanking stern for capitalising on the chances created for him in front goal.there has to be a valid reason why he's not getting playing time despite our success making the world cup and I think they see him as role player coming off the bench when they are comfortably 2 or 3 goals ahead.
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Stern needs to go to Scotland.
He will perform better there,
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Stern needs to go to Scotland.
He will perform better there,
Yuh know sumting true trini....yuh have a point there i really didnt think about that....ppl may not rate the spl but bcuz of how physical it is, it is a great place for stern to be b4 the world cup.
Allyuh think he could make the starting team in rangers or celtic or somewhere else???
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Stern is our number 1 striker and zamora cannot replace d class of stern john
but stern shud get out of derby an coventry and join either a championship side wey he has playing time or leave england
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In case allyuh eh know, Stern is on a 3 month loan to Derby which expires on December 17th. After dat, he goes back tuh Coventry, unless Derby want tuh string him along some more.
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In case allyuh eh know, Stern is on a 3 month loan to Derby which expires on December 17th. After dat, he goes back tuh Coventry, unless Derby want tuh string him along some more.
AYE BOY STERN 13 MORE DAYS TIL FREEDOM :rotfl: :rotfl:
hopefully dem boys at coventry give him some playing time...ne body no how coventry doin in the table??/ they scoring goals??
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In case allyuh eh know, Stern is on a 3 month loan to Derby which expires on December 17th. After dat, he goes back tuh Coventry, unless Derby want tuh string him along some more.
I hope he cud crack back in to the starting side there or at least get some regular playing time...seems like he gonna try his luck at Coventry fuh de while since he dun talk to de coach about wah required wen he go back
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Zamora is a hound...plain and simple....Beenhakker better off using Local players(my opinion) because Zamora will never play his heart out for T&T...He different from Birchall because Birchall young and had a chance to play with England some day...He come and play with T&T when they were in a bad situation....Zamora is a world cup waggonist
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to all the men here that I does talk to daily and doh like Stern jes like me but fraid to say anything for fear of what men like Andre Samuel and Marvantman go say
HAUL ALL YUH MOODAS COHNT
the man is ah shit snake simple and plain
What should Stern John need to do right now Teflon Don??
I go tell yuh
he need to go by the grocery and buy 2 pack ah minora razor blade and then go by the gas station and but bout $5 in gas
sprinkle the gas all over he house and light it then take the razor blade and slit he wrist and jes lie down
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to all the men here that I does talk to daily and doh like Stern jes like me but fraid to say anything for fear of what men like Andre Samuel and Marvantman go say
HAUL ALL YUH MOODAS COHNT
the man is ah shit snake simple and plain
What should Stern John need to do right now Teflon Don??
I go tell yuh
he need to go by the grocery and buy 2 pack ah minora razor blade and then go by the gas station and but bout $5 in gas
sprinkle the gas all over he house and light it then take the razor blade and slit he wrist and jes lie down
disgruntled u reaaaaaaaaal disgruntled over stern boy! That real harsh...De man score some big goals for we in de hex to get us to the WC...i eh he biggest fan but he on de side so i hadda back him. I want to see him get more playing time so hopefully he go be in better form by WC time for de sake of T&T :beermug:
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to all the men here that I does talk to daily and doh like Stern jes like me but fraid to say anything for fear of what men like Andre Samuel and Marvantman go say
HAUL ALL YUH MOODAS COHNT
the man is ah shit snake simple and plain
What should Stern John need to do right now Teflon Don??
I go tell yuh
he need to go by the grocery and buy 2 pack ah minora razor blade and then go by the gas station and but bout $5 in gas
sprinkle the gas all over he house and light it then take the razor blade and slit he wrist and jes lie down
bredda...please tell me Stern does beat you regularly, and mashing yuh gyul...otherwise you really cross de line wit dat one. yuh gone mad or wha'
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steups
according to ah man on the field today
shit with that boy
shit with thaaaaaaaaaaatttt
it have real men here who share my opinion who doh say nothing for one reason or ah next
NOT ME
the man is ah goat
the only time he impress me was in the last game in Bahrain
the man actually run back and tackle ah man and win the ball I say wha he changing he ways
cause usually he making up numbers
jes standing up and waiting for the ball
give me Jones anyday yes ah man who willing to fight Stern eh no fighter
bredda...please tell me Stern does beat you regularly, and mashing yuh gyul...otherwise you really cross de line wit dat one. yuh gone mad or wha'
all yuh could say wha all yuh want dread
the man does get meh irate man
I hate to see football so man
and I know wha go happen yuh know
somebody go come and post some stats and tell meh bout look how much goal he score
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steups
according to ah man on the field today
shit with that boy
shit with thaaaaaaaaaaatttt
it have real men here who share my opinion who doh say nothing for one reason or ah next
NOT ME
the man is ah goat
the only time he impress me was in the last game in Bahrain
the man actually run back and tackle ah man and win the ball I say wha he changing he ways
cause usually he making up numbers
jes standing up and waiting for the ball
give me Jones anyday yes ah man who willing to fight Stern eh no fighter
Understand where yuh comin from but yuh post before was way over de line dred...dat past shit talk..But i also wud like Jones to start but i eh de coach so i goin wit whoever beenie put and supporting who on de field
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bredda...please tell me Stern does beat you regularly, and mashing yuh gyul...otherwise you really cross de line wit dat one. yuh gone mad or wha'
all yuh could say wha all yuh want dread
the man does get meh irate man
I hate to see football so man
and I know wha go happen yuh know
somebody go come and post some stats and tell meh bout look how much goal he score
stop ranting boss...is not your opinion that is over the line. Is your suggestion that the man kill himself and your description of how he should do it. You sounding like you eh sleep in 3 days and you bounce up a PC and run riot
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to all the men here that I does talk to daily and doh like Stern jes like me but fraid to say anything for fear of what men like Andre Samuel and Marvantman go say
HAUL ALL YUH MOODAS COHNT
the man is ah shit snake simple and plain
What should Stern John need to do right now Teflon Don??
I go tell yuh
he need to go by the grocery and buy 2 pack ah minora razor blade and then go by the gas station and but bout $5 in gas
sprinkle the gas all over he house and light it then take the razor blade and slit he wrist and jes lie down
nice one fuh day partner stern need some competiton. who do we really have locally kerry norway,jerol forbes ,andre toussaint.
I have to ask how good is kerry norway
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Doh study dem Disgruntled... I find it was funny.... :rotfl:
I still holdin my belly here!!!......
light de house, and jus lie down... oh gawwdo!!!
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steups whatever yes
cause many ah time I does be walking out the stadium and watch over the side and tell meh self it easier to jump than to watch this team play anymore
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Stern needs to go to Scotland.
He will perform better there,
true trini have a good point there
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steups whatever yes
cause many ah time I does be walking out the stadium and watch over the side and tell meh self it easier to jump than to watch this team play anymore
:rotfl: :rotfl: i kno de feeling dred...
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Doh study dem Disgruntled... I find it was funny.... :rotfl:
I still holdin my belly here!!!......
light de house, and jus lie down... oh gawwdo!!!
steups
you feel I have them to study FF
me eh putting no water in my mouth for nobody
who doh like it bite it
them is the same men who when the man playing and he jes purging does be bawling boy take off Stern and this and that but as he score he should get ah Trinity cross
NOT ME
even after the Mexico game when he score them 2 goal I wanted to tell the man thanks for everything eh Stern but we could do without the lacklustre play so THANKS
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steups whatever yes
cause many ah time I does be walking out the stadium and watch over the side and tell meh self it easier to jump than to watch this team play anymore
hard luck boss...i guess de imagery was a little too much for me on a Sunday night. I see you just really a disgruntled fella...who loves his TnT ball. Like you need a :beermug:
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Kicker said it best
is either yuh love the man or hate him dread
me
I like men who does fight ah game to the end
ah man who go run back get the ball and take it to ah defence
not stand up and wait on ah cross or ah through ball (that might never come) to toe poke it home
for all he criticsm now Raul 2 years ago was one of them players
when he realise he eh getting the ball he running back and doing something about it Eto'o now is one of the players last week the man take the ball from the half and take on 4 defenders and score
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Doh study dem Disgruntled... I find it was funny.... :rotfl:
I still holdin my belly here!!!......
light de house, and jus lie down... oh gawwdo!!!
them is the same men who when the man playing and he jes purging does be bawling boy take off Stern and this and that but as he score he should get ah Trinity cross.....
nah boss...you getting it twisted...
but like yuh disgruntled...say your piece and get it out your system
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It seems dat Stern plays rell good wen he's under pressure like for the Mexico match wen he didnt score the penalty and den realize dat everyone was critisizing him and den come and score two beautiful goals ;)
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Stay as far away as possible from somebody called Disgruntled Trini. >:(
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It seems dat Stern plays rell good wen he's under pressure like for the Mexico match wen he didnt score the penalty and den realize dat everyone was critisizing him and den come and score two beautiful goals ;)
WHAT YOU TALKING BOUT
we under pressure right through dan
that whole Hex is pressue yuh cyah afford to miss ah penalty and then try and atone for yuh mistakes
boy I realise all yuh does watch football yes
all yuh doh study the game
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Disgruntled, Stern score two goals vs Mexico but yuh still want to bench him.
Stern was the 2nd highest scorer in the WORLD in WCQ, and you can't give him credit for that.
If yuh want de man to score 20 goals then yuh will never be satisfied so maybe you should lower your expectations to a realistic level.
Or maybe you have somebody in mind who will score more than 12 goals? If yuh do I want to hear who.
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and I know wha go happen yuh know
somebody go come and post some stats and tell meh bout look how much goal he score
wha I say
what did I say
Disgruntled, Stern score two goals vs Mexico but yuh still want to bench him.
Stern was the 2nd highest scorer in the WORLD in WCQ, and you can't give him credit for that.
If yuh want de man to score 20 goals then yuh will never be satisfied so maybe you should lower your expectations to a realistic level.
Or maybe you have somebody in mind who will score more than 12 goals? If yuh do I want to hear who.
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I used to rate Stern in the Columbus Crew days, even when he came to England...even supported him when I couldn't understand why Dwight would chose to go to Bir and squeeze out his country mate, but the fact remains he's not consistent in his performances over this campaign. People keep pointing to goals...do any of you know who Ali Daei is ??......didn't think many of you would. yet he's Irananian and is the all time international goal scorer. Being an all time goal scorer means nothing, if ur not consistent in scoring in such a crucial campaign. Especially if there are others who have potential to score, kenwyne jones and cornell glenn just to name two.
that being said, i think Stern needs to go to a club where he will get to play first team football regularly.......don't think killing himself is solution though disgruntled :-\
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You said it because it is an obvious argument.
So why do you choose to ignore it ???
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. People keep pointing to goals...do any of you know who Ali Daei is ??......didn't think many of you would. yet he's Irananian and is the all time international goal scorer......
Dat's a poor example pardnah. If you doh know who Ali Dei is then you doh watch ball. Either that or you real young. De man was a big player for Bayern Munich and Hertha Berlin in Germany. He played in WC 98 for Iran and is their current captain now for Germany 2006 and in the twighlight of his carreer still banging them in for Iran. Sorry, de man eh no Ronaldo, and he never was overhyped or overmarketed, but he is a big player...much bigger than Stern
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Stern John has been through some tough times with his club...The man went thru quite a bad spell with T&T too but Disgruntled being a complete ass about Stern....Is a player like Inzaghi any different? Is Trezeget any different?To call Stern a hound is foolish...His stats show that you talking sh*t....He doesn't run back and tackle....he does wait for the ball...He lazy and slow....All this I could agree with but at the end of the day Stern John is a striker and the role of a striker is to SCORE...It don't matter how yuh do it...Disgruntled is a blood-sucker....I wanted Stern on the bench when he wasn't scoring too but i always maintained the fact that i knew he could get it back with a couple goals...Kenywne Jones hasn't scored a goal for us although his role is to hold up the ball (you int say nothing about that)...Disgruntled you are an real idiot(you don't know anything about football) ...People like you are part of the reason why our football has been stagnated over the years because allyuh always worried about how a man looking on the field and not on what job he fulfills.....go T&T :(
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Ponnox I hatta agree with you especially the end. Of all the strikers we ever had, nobody take us where stern take us...and men will call for Jones and Scotland and Glen ad whoever to start...and what them same fellas go say when Glen and dem doh perform - we shoulda leave on stern? Stern is a proven goal scorer. Them other fellas had chances too, count how much matches started, minutes played vs goals scored...true they have smaller minutes than stern, but if you take the average, Stern still come out on top.
and for bullshit talk sake - the only man I feel have any right to complain that they have not been proven to be a non-goalscorer is Errol McFarlane.
Also if Scotty keep up thius scoring pace it go have no choice but to give him a bligh in front of stern next rounds and see if he could reproduce for we.
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As far as playing fuh T&T, I'm confident he will continue to score goals for us. However, at dis point, he need tuh start playing regular football, at whatever cost. I think he should go to Scotland, or in de worst situation MLS. His loan deal expire dis month at Derby, if he return tuh Coventry, it go be de same problem. May be Lattas could pull some strings, and get him at Falkirk or another club, friendlies an de world cup, just around de corner and he need tuh stay sharp.
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I personally think all those club not playing our players because they know if they stay sharp by the time WC T$T would be deadly. Conspiricy Theory.
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I ent doubting that d lack of regular play affecting d man...but he have a chance everyday in practice to break into d side. He obviously doing something wrong there. I remember when Stern was d engine room of we side, now he looking like a shadow of he former self.
A lil competition ent go hurt him, if someone else could challenge him for his spot and also play a more defensive role as far as running back and making tackles to win d ball den we should welcome dat...all in making d team stronger. Ah mean right now...if dey have to take off Stern...who coming in dat could really say is a clinical finisher and ball winner? Ah know he is a striker but if yuh not getting service den doh stand up and cry...go get d damn ball. If Beenie had such a man at his disposal imagine what kinda madness he coulda cook up.
He could bounce back...but only if he spot in danger and that in itself isn't a good thing since he should be playing 110% fuh we regardless.
Disgruntled...dat was kinda hard boy...gas ent cheap
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Stern time done at Derby fellas, they would be crazy to renew his loan deal. What Stern have to worry bout is should he try and fight for his place at Coventry. Same goes fuh Ince.
I've said (and posted it) many times, since Stern left Birmingham he has been frequently asked to play a role like Mark Hughes did for Man Utd. In my humble opinion Stern cannot play that way and will therefore struggle to score in a posistion that is not noted for prolific scoring anyway. ALL T&T players in England, including Yorke have been accused at some point in their careers here of being lazy, sadly its just their style of play...we doh hustle around the pitch scraping fuh every ball going 100% into every challenge. To the English and Scottish that is called committment/passion....to others its called a waste of energy. He is now WAY down the pecking order at Coventry. I say to Stern drop a division (Go back to Forest man.... ;D) or go abroad, that includes the SPL.
I doh understand the situation with Ince, he joined knowing he would be backup yet when the First choice got injured, he only played a few games before they brought in a new loan keeper. Looks to me like he aint held in much high reguard there.
My advice to Clayton and Stern move on in January fellas.
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Stern needs to go to Scotland.
He will perform better there,
How does that work!?! The standard of Scottish football is well below that of ours in England- and it's f**king freezing there and always rains too!
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Kenywne Jones hasn't scored a goal for us although his role is to hold up the ball (you int say nothing about that)...
Fuh de record, Kenwyne has 1 international goal (against Bermuda in May).
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HANDS OFF STERN JOHN......HE HAVE ALL AH WE TAKING LOAN TO GO GERMANY.....SOME MIGHT NEVER PAY BACK...BECAUSE OF STERN....THATS WHY YUH VEX DISGRUNTLED???...JACKASS.....
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and I know wha go happen yuh know
somebody go come and post some stats and tell meh bout look how much goal he score
Since you asked so nicely ;D
http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/john-intlg.html
I agree that he should go to a "lesser" team on loan where he will get playing time, score goals, and boost his confidence. Come on Wrexham, you know you want him!
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to all the men here that I does talk to daily and doh like Stern jes like me but fraid to say anything for fear of what men like Andre Samuel and Marvantman go say
HAUL ALL YUH MOODAS COHNT
the man is ah shit snake simple and plain
What should Stern John need to do right now Teflon Don??
I go tell yuh
he need to go by the grocery and buy 2 pack ah minora razor blade and then go by the gas station and but bout $5 in gas
sprinkle the gas all over he house and light it then take the razor blade and slit he wrist and jes lie down
dred
wha d ass u talkin bout stern killin himself
we sure as hell wouldn't be in any world cup without him
yuh need to cool it with that suicide talk
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wha kinda ting ya postin on here disgruntled trini? stern is one of de reasons why T&T in de world cup. i think dat once stern go back to coventry he'll get playing time, cuz look where coventry is in de standings. close to de bottom 3. i know dat coventry rel missin stern.
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wha kinda ting ya postin on here disgruntled trini? stern is one of de reasons why T&T in de world cup. i think dat once stern go back to coventry he'll get playing time, cuz look where coventry is in de standings. close to de bottom 3. i know dat coventry rel missin stern.
But yuh eh think if they missin he so much, why they eh take him back sooner? He on loan.
I feelin real bad for the man.
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Why Birmingham release him in de first place? Emile Heskey. Lawd put ah hand. Stern would almost always score goals when he was substituted, and Steve Bruce knew that. Now they struggling in the bottom of the EPL. Ah hope Stern get back into the playing groove in Coventry and wid de WC in mind, he go play on fire. :beermug:
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Stern needs to go to Scotland.
He will perform better there,
How does that work!?! The standard of Scottish football is well below that of ours in England- and it's f**king freezing there and always rains too!
If Scottish ball is at a lower level than where Derby and Coventry playing now maybe Stern should try that, Rangers needs some goals
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boy Stern John couldn't score in the University of VC with ah pocketfull ah money.
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boy Stern John couldn't score in the University of VC with ah pocketfull ah money.
Disgruntled why yuh hate d poor man so boy
he had his struggles but he has also had good success
u think they have players who should be playin ahead of him?
Beenie didn't think so
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The point is not whether he was or is having a bad spell or not...the fact of the matter is he is not playing in the games at all...so he not gettin ah sweat.....
Also, one of the reasons a team sends you on loan is to either get yuh extra playin time on another team because your team have to many people at that position or number 2. yuh rehabbing.....
AS tallman say he will be back in just under 2-weeks....
But seriously Tallman.........you really think Coventry goin an play he when he not match fit when he go back.........come again...
Ah love Stern......but if he really wants to do what is good for himself, his country and more importantly to get valuable minutes in the worldcup....he needs to be on the pitch and not on the bench !!
He needs to do whatever it takes to get playin time.......from makin demands to coventry manager or playin for Jabloteh......for the time being if yuh not gettin minutes....every option is on the table
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to all the men here that I does talk to daily and doh like Stern jes like me but fraid to say anything for fear of what men like Andre Samuel and Marvantman go say
HAUL ALL YUH MOODAS COHNT
the man is ah shit snake simple and plain
What should Stern John need to do right now Teflon Don??
I go tell yuh
he need to go by the grocery and buy 2 pack ah minora razor blade and then go by the gas station and but bout $5 in gas
sprinkle the gas all over he house and light it then take the razor blade and slit he wrist and jes lie down
dred
wha d ass u talkin bout stern killin himself
we sure as hell wouldn't be in any world cup without him
yuh need to cool it with that suicide talk
despite dis beeing a completely bullshit coment it had to be one of the funniest things ive heard all week
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I believe that Stern is better than Zamora. Even Kenwayne with a little more experience is better than this guy. If you watch the EPL you'll realize that they place a value on horses(big strong athletes). That is why Harewood is successful and shitsnake Heskey getting a sweat. None of these guys are international quality or good on the ball. Stern get less sweat than these guys and score more goals for Birmingham. He was their leading scorer and they still get rid of him. Clearly he is a better goal scorer than these guys. Now they'll get relegated for chasing those shithounds.
Also, it is tougher as a forward to succeed in the championship than it is in the EPL. The championship game is based on toughness, fitness and grit, that is why Zamora did well there and Stern is struggling. In the EPL forwards are better provided with opportunities by their midfielders. The SPL is the same shit as the championship except for the old firm. Stern better off in the MLS or French league, anywhere where the physical requirements are not as stringent.
Having said all that, he still needs to get fitter and increase his workrate some.