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Title: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Touches on December 09, 2005, 04:19:02 PM
Forumites,

I find all the groups were decent except Group C with Holland and Argentina. Costa Rica and Mexico have a nice group and USA looking like they go be under pressure.

Now this England game going and cause some trouble and may affect our players in the future.

Personally I have a good few English cousins who I go hadda battle with but small thing

Anyways how do you think the English managers would feel about our players knowing we are their opponents?
Do you think closer to the WC our players could get benched and the targets of abuse?

What do you think Christopher and the rest of the Birchall family must be feeling?............confusing times indeed.

Our players constantly get ridiculed by their managers and fellow players, this situation will not help.

Also remember the Korean player who lorse he wuk in Italy after he poison them.....When we poison them I hope our players could still carry out they business in peace and safety.

If is one thing doe.........Birchall and Whitley will be matched up against Lampard and Gerrard. Tallest and Dog hadda rest the hurt on Owen and Rooney and Carlos go hadda watch Ronaldinho lil bit to learn how to tun up Ashley cole.

I have meh fears about Sweden too but I feel we making second rounds.
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Jefferz on December 09, 2005, 04:28:12 PM
YEA TOUCHES GLAD AND SAD TO KNOW YOU ALWAYS ARE THE FIRST TO THINK OF THE MOST SIFNIFICANT FACTOR IN A PROGRESSING SITUATION... and jah is a worrying one now  :thinking:






So we go hadda send de whole Nation a lifetime supply of charmen two ply for the life time of bawlin
R.I.P. National English Football June 15th, 2006, death to be in battle "Nurenburg"   :salute:
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Pointman on December 09, 2005, 04:54:57 PM
doh worry touches, after we poison England real man go geh wuk in Scotland and Spain and France and ting. But yeah ah remember how Italy ninja the Korean boy...totally classless shyte.
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: JDB on December 09, 2005, 04:58:10 PM
The English do not really see us as competition.

Birchall's family will be ecstatic because they will have all of England watching there boy.

For them getting drawn against ENgland is like a small club player from Merseyside getting drawn against Liverpool or Everton it is a dream.

Also Managers in England manage players from all over the world without problem (except for Alpay at Villa but there were extenuating circumstances), I don't think that we will have to worry.
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Jefferz on December 09, 2005, 05:01:57 PM
The English do not really see us as competition.

Birchall's family will be ecstatic because they will have all of England watching there boy.

For them getting drawn against ENgland is like a small club player from Merseyside getting drawn against Liverpool or Everton it is a dream.

Also Managers in England manage players from all over the world without problem (except for Alpay at Villa but there were extenuating circumstances), I don't think that we will have to worry.

god to know
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: SHOTTA on December 09, 2005, 05:04:11 PM
ITS GOING TO BE A GOOD GAME  NO MATTER WAT

right no we on the 1000-1 odss of winning it so i planning to gamble big

english coaches hopefully wont be to biased in their actions but football is football so we go wait an see

ranger go draw juve in champ league an we go see andrwes vs zlatan then we go make dat judgement
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Grande on December 09, 2005, 05:09:11 PM
Sven delighted to steer clear of Dutch and Aussies
 
December 9, 2005
LEIPZIG, Germany (AFP) - Sven-Goran Eriksson breathed a huge sigh of relief after the World Cup draw handed England a relatively easy first round group and spared his squad the prospect of facing either the Netherlands or traditional sporting adversaries Australia.

"It is not an easy group but it could have been much worse," England's Swedish coach said after his squad were drawn in a group with Paraguay, Trinidad and Tobago and Eriksson's native country, Sweden.

"We asked to avoid Holland and Australia and we did that," Eriksson told the BBC.

 "Of course we have to play Sweden, whom we have not beaten for a very long time -- that seems to be our destiny. But that is life, sooner or later we have to beat them.

"At least on paper we are the favourites with Sweden but you never know in the World Cup."

The draw means England, presuming they finish in the top two in their group, are likely to face either Germany or Poland in the second round.

Eriksson was confident England could win the group and avoid a last-16 clash with Germany.

"I think Germany will win their group, I think they are in an easy group for the host nation," he said. "For sure it is better to play Poland than Germany in the second round."

The draw means it is possible England could face Brazil in the final but Eriksson did not want to speculate on that sort of outcome.

"I would take that at once to play Brazil in the final but the way is long and it is not right to talk about the final. Now we have to prepare for our group matches.

"We have difficult games but I am happy with the group. It could have been worse, much worse."

One of Eriksson's predecessors, Graham Taylor, hailed the draw as the best England could possibly have hoped for.

"On paper you can't ask for much better than that," he said. "The England players will come out and say all the same things about every game being a hard one but if we look at it realistically we could not have asked for better."

The clash with Trinidad and Tobago will see Eriksson's men face a squad in which nearly half the players currently earn their living in England, mostly outside the Premiership.

Trinidad and Tobago defender Dennis Lawrence, who plays for League Two side Wrexham (the fourth tier of English football), voiced his delight at the draw.

"I can imagine how the fans are feeling because I am so excited about it myself," he said. "It was brilliant looking at our name come out in the same group as England."

Port Vale midfielder Chris Birchall, another Trinidad and Tobago star, claimed the prospect of playing England in the World Cup finals was like "living a dream".

He said: "People were saying 'It's fate, you're going to get England'. When it happened I was just running around, cheering in the bar. It hasn't sunk in.

"I will be lining up against players who I have been watching week in, week out in the Premiership.

"I don't think anyone knew about us before... but we have caused a few upsets. People are taking us seriously."




Pretty much de article says Erikksson think of us as lightweights at the moment, all he knows is that a lot of our players play in England.
I don't think this will have a negative effect on our players physically, ah mean in the teams where our players are in - Port Vale, Wrexham, Luton Town, Southampton... none of their teammates will be in the England squad, and if anything, will support de Warriors. Maybe ah being too naive, ah dunno.
Ah think this might be a growing issue as time passes....too early to tell. We have to keep up to date wit our UK-based players to see if they getting playing time and de coaches treating dem right.  
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: FATZ on December 09, 2005, 05:16:35 PM
Licks for England, we going to the 2nd round.
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Pointman on December 09, 2005, 05:21:43 PM
Licks for England, we going to the 2nd round.

yeah...but we need Jlloyd and Zamora and co. Ah go start a campaign to get dem on we team
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Marcos on December 09, 2005, 05:24:35 PM
Horse seriously
I never knew a draw could have me so excited nah
I feelin like Birchall, I gonna run around d bar tonight!!!
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Trini _2026 on December 09, 2005, 05:30:08 PM
Licks for England, we going to the 2nd round.

yeah...but we need Jlloyd and Zamora and co. Ah go start a campaign to get dem on we team

dat will be so embarrassing to english  if they loose to a team wit ah set ah lower divison players
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Warrior till death on December 09, 2005, 05:34:31 PM
Licks for England, we going to the 2nd round.

yeah...but we need Jlloyd and Zamora and co. Ah go start a campaign to get dem on we team
WE DIFINITELY EH NEED ZaMORA
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: SHOTTA on December 09, 2005, 05:39:09 PM
i agree wit spalks man jlloyd if he cud make it but zamora cud stay so

but doh let we mash up a thread wit da zamora talk
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on December 09, 2005, 05:40:53 PM
this group very exciting for us...our players who based in england have extra incentive (altho dont think much needed) to step up to england and give dem some pressure and maybe go down in history for a great upset!!!! ;D
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: triniairman on December 09, 2005, 05:45:09 PM
the draw nice we go vibes it up again and beckham will forget yorke not on he side and make a sweet cross for him and yorke will score a beautiful header just like old times. HEY I COULD DREAM TOO :rotfl:
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: real-warrior on December 09, 2005, 05:52:21 PM
T&T vs. England?? dat shud be a good game. I would like to see yorke on the same pitch wit beckham :)
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Trini _2026 on December 09, 2005, 05:56:03 PM

Trinidad and Tobago (51)

Coach: Leo Beenhakker.

Key player: Dwight Yorke, Russell Latapy.

World Cup record and best finish: First appearance.

Last appearance: First appearance.

World Cup odds: 750-1.

How qualified: Beat Bahrain in playoff.

Scoop: Short on players with major experience, anything other than three straight defeats will be a surprise.

OCEANIA

Australia (49)

Coach: Guus Hiddink.

Key players: Mark Viduka, Harry Kewell.

World Cup record and best finish: Second appearance; first round (1974).

Last appearance: First round 1974.

World Cup odds: 125-1.

How qualified: Beat Uruguay in playoff.

Scoop: Hiddink led the Netherlands to the semifinals in 1998 and South Korea to the last four in 2002. Taking the Aussies as far would be a minor miracle.

Source: USA Today

Title: Goalkeeper against England
Post by: triniairman on December 09, 2005, 06:02:42 PM
Well we will need a goalkeeper who knows the english players,one who played against them on numerous occasions.My pick will have to be HISLOP he got more experience against players like owen, lampard and rooney
Title: Re: GOALKEEPER AGAINST ENGLAND
Post by: palos on December 09, 2005, 06:05:35 PM
If it come down to everybody workin hard, no attitude and setta dotishness, and de only separator is ability, Imps would be #1.  But he eh name Imps fuh nutting.
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Filho on December 09, 2005, 08:29:56 PM
Touches...I doh think it will be a problem. Club coaches are too focused on their club results to bench their best players no matter what country they are from. They have their own personal agendas. Especially in the lower divisions where dey eh have too much depth and resources to be restin' men who in form. Besides, they do not consider us any real threat. The South Korean instance was rare. Remember when Trezeguet rest it on Italy in the final of Euro 2000. Wha happen? Juventus buy him one time. Football is a business...and results is the currency. Look Sven hadda coach England against his native Sweden. He eh losing no sleep if England lash dem. Same with Birchie...he go feel a lil something for he pops...but de man name eh 'me mum' for nuttin'
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: fari on December 09, 2005, 08:35:24 PM
Touches...I doh think it will be a problem. Club coaches are too focused on their club results to bench their best players no matter what country they are from. They have their own personal agendas. Especially in the lower divisions where dey eh have too much depth and resources to be restin' men who in form. Besides, they do not consider us any real threat. The South Korean instance was rare. Remember when Trezeguet rest it on Italy in the final of Euro 2000. Wha happen? Juventus buy him one time. Football is a business...and results is the currency. Look Sven hadda coach England against his native Sweden. He eh losing no sleep if England lash dem. Same with Birchie...he go feel a lil something for he pops...but de man name eh 'me mum' for nuttin'

rahhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Goalkeeper against England
Post by: Grande on December 09, 2005, 08:41:48 PM
Well we will need a goalkeeper who knows the english players,one who played against them on numerous occasions.My pick will have to be HISLOP he got more experience against players like owen, lampard and rooney

Hislop sound right for de job but ah de end of the day the goalie who gettin more time on de field is the one to pick, in dis case is Jack. It eh matter that he doh play in England, when men belting ball towards the net is pretty much de same style all over de world.
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Milan!!! on December 09, 2005, 08:43:36 PM
dem fellas who plying trade in england cyah be more happy than we drawign with England..man stocks increasing as we speak yeh..imagine after the world cup if we put on a good show against England...

I looking forward for a realllll good game yeh

Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: TrinInfinite on December 09, 2005, 08:50:09 PM
i posted dis already, touches juss have a diff name, y was my post removed?
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Jefferz on December 09, 2005, 08:52:48 PM
what does it matter once the point is put across?       wait... the one about policts will affect TNT players?
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: che on December 09, 2005, 09:17:52 PM
I was on about 5 football webpages and all have us down for some good licks >:(
Lets prove then wrong and at least make second round.
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Grande on December 09, 2005, 09:28:56 PM
I was on about 5 football webpages and all have us down for some good licks >:(
Lets prove then wrong and at least make second round.

Everybody have we down for good licks. All the odds are against T&T - ppl eh expecting much from us. I juss keeping it real here. Let we just ignore the haters and big up we team.
Dat's why I apprecite de Scottish and Vale fans on this forum. Even before we draw with England they backing we and we players on their club teams.  :beermug:
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Brej on December 09, 2005, 09:31:48 PM
if we cud cum outa dere wit sum players gettin wuk den we did alot
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Jefferz on December 09, 2005, 09:31:58 PM
i remember for a while durin d bahrain fellahz talkin shit on d site an all da an fellahz was worried we had a slogan "REVENGE IS A BITCH" i think it applies to this situation more than ever
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: kevinAckin on December 10, 2005, 11:17:36 AM
and Carlos go hadda watch Ronaldinho lil bit to learn how to tun up Ashley cole.

u mean carlos go hadda watch Cristiano Ronaldo cuz he come like Cole daddy. Cole come like he bitch.
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: JDB on December 10, 2005, 11:23:24 AM
Licks for England, we going to the 2nd round.

yeah...but we need Jlloyd and Zamora and co. Ah go start a campaign to get dem on we team

dat will be so embarrassing to english  if they loose to a team wit ah set ah lower divison players

It happened just a couple of months ago with NI and yes it was embarrassing.
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: rasajoy on December 10, 2005, 11:47:49 AM
Dates of TNT matches

Match  4    10-Jun-06    Dortmund     TRI:SWE  18:00

Match  19   15-Jun-06    Nuremberg    ENG:TRI  18:00

Match  36    20-Jun-06 Kaiserslautern  PAR:TRI  21:00
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Savannah boy on December 10, 2005, 11:53:51 AM
Some men in awe before whistle blow...is quite shocking for me to see some of de old timers from de old forum carrying on in dis way but everybody have their opinion and ah have to reespect dat.  Ah jes hope de players eh thinking negative.  Things coulda be worse, Group C, E and F would have been real pressure.
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: maxg on December 10, 2005, 12:12:15 PM
Is it me, or Birchall always in dat bar..dah is the Nari's equivalent or wha...or the master jus show d grasshopper d way


oh well, if all else fails we go send for Dwarika, maxg et al...an drop ah "Drunken Master Style" in dey rass....maybe bring in Porters (doh BeenE have d Silver fox look) for d las game.. 
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Redbelt on December 10, 2005, 01:37:00 PM
Last world cup S. Korea played Italy, and when Ahn scored for his team, his Italian team sacked him
Do you think it can happen here? Or would your players be affected by that?
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on December 10, 2005, 01:43:18 PM
Last world cup S. Korea played Italy, and when Ahn scored for his team, his Italian team sacked him
Do you think it can happen here? Or would your players be affected by that?

Aye redbelt! i eh expect to see u back
on yuh question i eh know yes..I dont think that wud happen
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: JDB on December 10, 2005, 02:23:41 PM
In both cases that I know of that this has happend there were extreme circumstances.

The Italians felt that they were cheated against Korea and the Owner of a small club fired him tempestuously. English clubs are not managed that way.

When VIlla sold Alpay it was becasue he went apeshit on the field against England, while playing for Turkey. He had some really bad things to say and again the fans over-reacted and Villa sold him fast.

So barring a controversial win or our players acting out of order, which they don't, we have nothing to worry about.


When we pull they BBB gyul in Germany they might have a problem with the Trini fans however.
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: bratachdubh on December 10, 2005, 02:36:27 PM
The English are so arrogant they are already discussing on TV just who they will be playing in the final...   ;D

They have written T&T off already, before the game has kicked off.  The best situation you could possibly be in - they're completely discounting you to worry about Sweden.

Kick their arses, guys.  The whole of Scotland is fully behind T&T already, we know what it's like to be treated with contempt by the English.

Put them out first round.  ;)
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: tempo on December 10, 2005, 03:18:06 PM
Before we do we business on the field, we gotta be ready for some well placed distractions, especially if we do well in our warm ups. Remember the article that English newspaper do on the 98 Jamaican Team on how the English based players living much better than some of the Jamaican based players. That article nearly mash up the Jamaicans before the world cup. Now that we have drawn England be prepared for some real pressure from the british press who are very good at divide and conquer.
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: NYtriniwhiteboy.. on December 10, 2005, 03:47:03 PM
Before we do we business on the field, we gotta be ready for some well placed distractions, especially if we do well in our warm ups. Remember the article that English newspaper do on the 98 Jamaican Team on how the English based players living much better than some of the Jamaican based players. That article nearly mash up the Jamaicans before the world cup. Now that we have drawn England be prepared for some real pressure from the british press who are very good at divide and conquer.

Well i dont think that a story like that wud cause too much trouble for our team since almost the whole side makes their living abroad anyway! But let them talk they talk...
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Rymizx on December 10, 2005, 06:06:07 PM
As you talk about distractions one or two trini smallie streakers on d field go get Beckam forgetting about he spice girl...
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Redbelt on December 11, 2005, 11:24:04 AM
Aye redbelt! i eh expect to see u back

I was just busy

I told you I would support Trini if you win & I'm a man of my word.
I'm too broke to go and cheer for you but I will watch all the matches!
Title: Re: The Impacts of Playing England and our players
Post by: Born-again Bairn on December 11, 2005, 11:39:08 AM

Kick their arses, guys.  The whole of Scotland is fully behind T&T already, we know what it's like to be treated with contempt by the English.


This board has already seen the posts after Scotland beat T&T 4 - 1. They also know what it's like to be treated with contempt by the Scots  ;D

A question for you Black Saltire: Would you prefer T&T to qualify from their group, not necessarily  beating England or T&T to stop England going through but not qualifying themselves?
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