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Football / Re: Hardest out?

« on: May 27, 2007, 05:44:48 PM »

In my humble opinion.   TTFF needs to plan ahead and get as many men as they can who can take de jammin...  Dem Haitians not easzzzy....  Perphaps they need to take a page from the Soca Warriors Funday.  

In the last 30mins of the game when man bun ie. de nice boys/Celebs, they just kept making substitutions to keep de side going as many as 50subs (man came off de field and rest an den went back on).  In de last 15mins as many as 21celebs including Birchall (in Celebs uniform) were on de field against only 11 Soca Warriors.

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Football / Re: Great reasons why we should boycott the Gold Cup!

« on: May 27, 2007, 03:05:28 PM »

unchanged? Why?

Your viewpoints are very sound.

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Football / Re: Are we experiencing media propaganda or is it poor journalism?

« on: May 27, 2007, 03:01:49 PM »

The Guardian sports editor is ah old Harvard man like me...as is Ollie Camps. he get paid by Jack to help write he autobiography do de maths.

Thank you, truetrini, for clearing up some of the confusion I am experiencing.

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Football / Are we experiencing media propaganda or is it poor journalism?

« on: May 27, 2007, 02:39:50 PM »

I want the answer to this question.  Is the information I read in the papers true or are some media houses trying to mess with my mind.  At one point, they were acting like an emotional abuser and withholding information from the public.  There were no reports for weeks about the 2006 Soca warriors.

Now, we are seeing information being given with a particular spin or trend.  Is it certain media houses or journalists trying to confuse us by feeding the public with misinformation.  Is this a propaganda WAR against our 2006 Soca Warrior heroes?  These are my findings:

1. Nigel Simon from Trinidad Guardian " Sancho is among several members of the Soca Warriors World Cup team who have refused to take part in next month’s Gold Cup tournament in the US"
Read http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=27934.0

2.Celebrities, Warriors in Tobago By WALTER ALIBEY (Trinidad Newsday).
He says..."However a number of international footballers who played at last year’s FIFA World Cup in Germany have not made themselves available because of an ongoing dispute with the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation. "  Read http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=27983.0 
Call names.....  Anyhow, his article was rigged with mistakes from start to finish. 

Is this a sign of poor journalism?  Is this a new wave of media propaganda?   This sort of slant coming from two different papers?  It makes me wonder Is there a hidden curriculum going on?  Something is not adding up.

3. Here is a different spin to the current Soca warriors drama by Ian Prescott (T&T Express). titled: Soca Warriors out Gold Cup New boys face Haiti test tomorrow. 
He says" Trinidad and Tobago will not be represented by their 2006 World Cup players at the June 6-24 CONCACAF Gold Cup in the United States, even if the intervention of Sport Minister Roger Boynes leads to a quick resolution to the dispute between the T&T Football Federation (T&TFF) and the players over their share of revenue generated by qualifying for the World Cup.

The T&TFF had blacklisted the players after they had threatened to take legal action against the Federation. Since then, Boynes has said he is seeking a meeting with Federation president Oliver Camps to negotiate a speedy resolution to the dispute."
Read the full article on http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=28009.0

The Trinidad Express report seems closer to what I have been hearing.
My question: Is there a conspiracy going on?  Are there other similar cases of this?

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Football / Re: Great reasons why we should boycott the Gold Cup!

« on: May 27, 2007, 01:03:45 PM »

Listen I hear all kinds of reasons why we should and should not support the T&T National Team.  Here are the reasons why I feel that we should boycott the damn gold Cup!

1.  Jack Warner's intransigence!  Jack should honour his contract with the players.  The same players he held in such high esteem are now black listed, ooops, jack listed.  He has no moral authority to call any person greedy!

2.  Neither the players nor the TTFF nor Trinidad & Tobago are there simply for his delectation!   Jack has for too long held Trinidad and Tobago's football hostage.  We are fans and we are have a part to play in out football development.  Time for us to make a stand, ti,e for us to tell jack to get lost!

3.  It is my belief that this is NOT the best team that can represent T&T and the Gold Cup just happens to be the Biggest tournament of our Federation.  Our nation should NOT be represented by some extemporaneous team!

4.  This is another case of Jack's infamous  "ticket or leave it," attitude.  he is only master and over lord of T&T football because we let him!  It is high time to end his pesistent and pernicious malversation!  Time to bid Jack adieu!

5.  The Warrior Nation was chartered to improve all aspects of football in the beloved land of our birth.  If you look at our charter it says first ad foremost that we were formed to Provide practical assistance to the Soca Warriors as an organized link to their supporters.    How are we lending support if we turn our backs on them when they are making a principled stand?

6.  In the Warrior Nation preamble it states :  "The Soca Warriors Supporters Club aka the Warrior Nation is dedicated to the premise that honesty is the best policy. We will operate with dignity, integrity and transparency."  Should we expect less from our Federation?

7.  Jack and his cohorts have appeared venal and corrupt in all their dealings with our football to date.  How long will we just sit in the stands and cheer while he continues to run our football into the dust?  Are we that nebbish?  I can hardly support someone who has great difficulty dealing with higher life forms, yet relate with relative ease to spineless jelly fish (Camps, and Groden).

8.  If you cannot stand for something, then you will fall for everything.  No more cons, no more lies, be open, transparent and forthright Jack...We demand it!

9.  While I believe that we should support ALL players wearing our National colours, those players should have EARNED that right, and not just been blessed with the privilege beacuse of Jack's profligate power moves!

10.  We have a voice and we need to be heard!  We need to let our protestations be heard loud and clear.  We need to send a clear message to Jack Warner, Groden, and Camps, that we are sick and tired of their muddling, ineptness and their malfeasance!  If you do go to view the games, make a statement for the entire world to see.  take placards, voice your displeasure....Enough is damn well enough!

truetrini what is your status now........

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Football / Re: What does playing for Trinbago really mean

« on: May 27, 2007, 12:48:31 PM »

Every time you put on that jersey, shorts and sock....in the colors of red, white and black....you have now accepted the huge responsibility of REPRESENTING Trinidad and Tobago. Not just being on the field to gain ranks amongst your friends to say "I playing for d national team" or to gain caps to help you earn a work permit to leave Trinidad shores.

In fact, you are not considered a hit-man...willing to die while in the field battling....putting yourself at risk......willing to run until you drop........to be focused on ONE target for 90-120 minutes.......to deliver the goods......

Players are now considered ambassadors....hired to complete a job.....to bring success and glory back to the little island of Trinidad and Tobago...to improve and/or reduce political/societal tension within our country.

Most players in Trinidad and Tobago do not share these types of sentiments. One factor that can account for that is our culture...we are naturally a party culture and a laid back type of people......very lackluster......

When we have players working hard, tackling wind..... Trinidadians say that they are "wild"....that they are Tarzan....that they cannot play......

But it is this "wildness" aka which is seen in top football nation as...... high work rate, intensity, passion, love, drive, willingness to run until you drop/die for your country....that is badly needed by our socawarriors. So how do we instill these qualities into our players? Increase motivation........above all but among others.

Most of our players play for the fans, girls, money....and these are statements I hear with my own hears.

Is that the type of players that we want playing for Trinidad? Guess what....reality check!

To see our midfielders jogging around the field as if it is a practice match.....with no authority....with no aggression.... with no speed.... with no leadership.....and having one man trying his best up top....in that of Darryl Roberts...tackling.....shooting.....hustling....striker turns midfielder and defender......steups!!

We have the wrong concept of football.....if someone is a good dribbler we say "he bad" even if he dribble out of bounds or always dribbling backward.......or dribble, dribble and slow down the game when a counter-attack was one.......steups!!!! Too much immature supporters at the games (with a good few on this forum). I can't even call you guys "fans" because a fan knows the game and will reject that type of football if it is unnecessary.

Football is a team sport....we need a collective effort to get results........we need everyone to be buzzing like a bee......for everyone to share the same goal and ambition.......


Kingman

A very touching analysis.....brings healing to de soul.  Its truthful and to de point

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Football / Re: Why T&TFF seems content to remain Bamsee-Smellers on the world stage

« on: May 27, 2007, 11:51:39 AM »

yuh believe they had men on this very forum who used to support Jack and even call for him to get the Trinity cross...

Can you believe dis crap?  Where is transparency in TTFF?   Even in football yuh have bobbol.

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Football / Re: Warriors pull out T&T Gold Cup squad.

« on: May 27, 2007, 11:44:06 AM »

 Ah sorry fuh T&T........

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Football / Re: T&T seek revenge against Haiti

« on: May 27, 2007, 11:32:30 AM »

Dem Haitians real smart.  Doh forget http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg162330#msg162330   even when dey losin dey win.
Doh forget how well T&T played until dey meet de Haitians in de Digicel Caribbean Cup Finals.  Ah hear man in de stands cussin dat de Haitians pull a spell on T&T.  Well hear dis, I really doh see how these boys will make out.  How confident are they?   From 1973 till now de only constant in dis mess is.....guess who?  

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Football / Re: U-17s start back with strength training.

« on: May 27, 2007, 10:37:50 AM »

You fellas will have to train hard and do dam good because ah feddup

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Football / Re: T&TFF president tells Warriors: Contact us, we'll listen.

« on: May 27, 2007, 10:31:45 AM »

Ah bunch of  Imagine on I95.5 (replay of a previous program) Scamps say he called de warriors on de phone and got no response.  So what about email, TTPOST, de neighbourhood watch crew, hand delivery.  Stuppsssssssss

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Football / Re: TTFF suspends its football programs!

« on: May 27, 2007, 10:15:04 AM »

The starting point: demanding that TTFF places some importance on its fans, working from the ground up. Sponsors are forced to notice when people rally behind a cause. It's time we kick and scream to have our voices heard. The game, in the country we love, depends on it.
 
The game should not be held ransom by a select few. "For the good of the game", TTFF please get a clue, true independence is self-sufficiency.

What is de proper channel to deal with the cycle of mismanagement by de TTFF?  How can we make de gov't set up a tribunal and make these fellas answer to de public?   They could even be shipped to the USA, how can dis be done?

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Football / Re: Sancho calls for meeting to end football impasse.

« on: May 27, 2007, 09:39:34 AM »

Sancho...hold on, don't let de   reporters and de TTFF get you down

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Football / Re: The Cancer that is Jack Warner. Searching for info, hope & strategy

« on: May 27, 2007, 09:28:10 AM »

I think soon there will be an explosion in de pressure cooker, read http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=28014.0

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Football / Re: Warrior Nation FC in the TT PRO LEAGUE ??

« on: May 27, 2007, 09:15:44 AM »

I have been on the site long enough to recognize that we have quite a number of forumites with the knowledge and experience and in several cases to finances to create a model pro club in T&T. One that will allow us to identify and develop the type of player that we need in our national programs, one that would add creditability to our pro league.

Unless this has been proposed before - I propose that the Warrior Nation put together a special committee to look into the possibility of entering the pro league by '09/'10.

The annual operating budget should be between $1.5 - $2.0 Million TT. With the type of folks and ideas we have at our disposal this should not be so difficult to raise.

The start up cost should be around 1/4 Million TT, This will include proleague franchise fees, and legal costs etc. We will need another 1/2 million TT for transfer fees and sign on bonuses.

Some may argue that Jabloteh, Connection and Joe Public have good clubs, but I believe that all they have is the $$$ to keep their clubs going, but not the type of philosophy necessary to remove the stigma, and create the type of league we yearn for.

Apart from the obvious, we must remember that football is not only a game, it's an industry, an industry where the average employee comes from areas where the youths are considered "at risk". I also do not believe that the clubs in our pro league fully understand the social value of their organizations - hence their inability to corral the fans etc.

I see this as a pro active move, and very necessary. Just my take.

This one is interesting..... 

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Football / Re: How Long Before Wim Quit?

« on: May 27, 2007, 09:10:49 AM »

Wim, you must be a giant because this is too much pressure for one man to bear.......

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Football / Re: Boynes ready to step into T&TFF/Players row.

« on: May 27, 2007, 09:04:25 AM »

Minister Boynes, ya too late with plan A what is plan B.  Btw, don't share out de tax payers monney....

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Football / Re: FPATT- some comments on its aims

« on: May 27, 2007, 08:59:50 AM »

kentsoulman, what is FPATT's next move.... 

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Football / Re: '06 Soca Warriors out Gold Cup - Deadline Passes

« on: May 27, 2007, 08:43:37 AM »

This too much too handle.   
TTFF stop playin de fool!!!!!!!!!!!!  Put integrity back into your business, its time to resign.......

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Football / Re: The Quiet Man Speaks

« on: May 27, 2007, 08:25:29 AM »

There is hope.  West Coast....there is hope.  McBeth go brave.  All we simply ask for is transparency and honesty. 

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Football / Re: Connection shoot down Rangers in Pro Bowl.

« on: May 27, 2007, 08:10:24 AM »

 Congrats to W Connection  

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Football / Re: Protest Banner Poll

« on: May 27, 2007, 08:03:15 AM »

KND2, I hear ya gettin de banners ready, for which game?   

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Football / Re: Come on Dog say some Prayers for these men.

« on: May 27, 2007, 08:01:24 AM »

Say a prayer for de nation, ask God to give us de strength to stand up for the our rights.

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Football / Re: Let us pledge our support to those 'Warriors' who have taken up the call......

« on: May 27, 2007, 07:53:55 AM »

Good morningGuys,
 You know the funny thing. All of us forumites(pro or con) are having high blood pressure because of the situation. The average dont know or dont care what going on. Ah lie?

Solution:   An organized protest action directed towards the TTFF.  This will relieve all complaints of high blood pressure.   Participating in protest action does the following for the fan:
1.Protest action takes care of the mind.......you are able to focus on the real problem and not get derailed.   You will have a very clear objective of where the march starts and where it will end.  You will know what you want to achieve and what are your options.  Clarity will be your focus...no more worries.
2.Protest action takes care of the body......keeps you fit.
3. Protest action takes care of the soul.  You are no longer thinking of your own selfish gain like: How much money will I get from this venture?  Am I going to get a house, plane tickets, an award or some special position?  Does this venture give me food to eat?  No.  Fighting this cause has nothing to do with self, its root lies in preserving our National Pride.  It has to do with thinking of the future and ensuring that it is safe for our baby warriors free from abuse and victimization.  However, this can only be accomplished if the needs of the senior warriors are satisfied.  We need to break the yoke of selfishness and greed that is a disease in this country.  A greed for power, a greed for self.  Thinking only of yourself , eventually leads to self destruction.

This is my humble view.  I am indeed saddened by the turn of events.  There is nothing to celebrate in this country..... 

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Football / Re: FPATT- some comments on its aims

« on: May 26, 2007, 08:32:22 PM »

Here are a few suggestions for FPATT

1.  Plan an organized MARCH in front of the TTFF office, where you will have a press conference.
2. Contact the police commissioner and get permission for the march
3. We the fans get our banners ready.
4. Fans from abroad who can offer support, organise your plane trip once the date is given.
5.  Place an ADVERTISEMENT in the paper letting all soca warrior fans know a march is in effect.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=27953.msg315463#msg315463

6. Invite all soca warrior fans to walk with a T&T flag as a sign of solidarity and wear red...

• we want transparency in how TTFF runs their business.
• We want financial statements published in the papers.
• We want players selected for the games based on ABILITY, players must earn their position based on being the cream of the crop.

 
7.  We want the TTFF to speak to the fans.  If they are not in the country, they should sent a representative to answer the questions.
8. If the fans do not get an answer from this march. then step up protest actions at the games....Chanting, banners etc.

This is not a time to back down.  We want to celebrate just like Mexicans, USA.  Its time the fans DEMAND that the TTFF put their house in order.   Bring victory home o'else.......

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Football / Re: Let us pledge our support to those 'Warriors' who have taken up the call......

« on: May 26, 2007, 08:25:29 PM »

Sancho keep strong, here are a few ideas......

1.  Plan an organized MARCH in front of the TTFF office, where you will have a press conference.
2. Contact the police commissioner and get permission for the march
3. We the fans get our banners ready.
4. Fans from abroad who can offer support, organise your plane trip once the date is given.
5.  Place an ADVERTISEMENT in the paper letting all soca warrior fans know a march is in effect.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=27953.msg315463#msg315463

6. Invite all soca warrior fans to walk with a T&T flag as a sign of solidarity and wear red...

• we want transparency in how TTFF runs their business.
• We want financial statements published in the papers.
• We want players selected for the games based on ABILITY, players must earn their position based on being the cream of the crop.

 
7.  We want the TTFF to speak to the fans.  If they are not in the country, they should sent a representative to answer the questions.
8. If the fans do not get an answer from this march. then step up protest actions at the games....Chanting, banners etc.

This is not a time to back down.  We want to celebrate just like Mexicans, USA.  Its time the fans DEMAND that the TTFF put their house in order.   Bring victory home o'else.......

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Football / Re: News From The Motherland (May-2007).

« on: May 26, 2007, 07:05:48 PM »

Thanks insider, nuff respec'   

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Football / Re: Celebrities, Warriors in Tobago

« on: May 26, 2007, 04:28:06 PM »

Celebrities, Warriors in Tobago
By WALTER ALIBEY (Trinidad Newsday)

Friday, May 25 2007

SOCIAL Development Minister Rene Dumas is expected to line-up for the Celebrities football team when they take on the Soca Warriors in a charity match at the Dwight Yorke Stadium, Tobago tonight from 7 pm.

Ah SHAME    for de Newsday.  Ya coulda do betta dan dat!!!

Celebrities, Warriors in Tobago
By WALTER ALIBEY (Trinidad Newsday)

Friday, May 25 2007

However a number of international footballers who played at last year’s FIFA World Cup in Germany have not made themselves available because of an ongoing dispute with the Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation.

Stop cuttin classes in school and start payin attenshion!!!  Wha eis deis.....

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Football / Re: John, Jones, Glen, Birchall, Whitley, Samuel, Avery, Sancho, Gray, Jack ...

« on: May 26, 2007, 04:59:53 AM »

He also give Birchall a lil coverage

News on Birchall and Sancho 
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=27985.msg315954#msg315954

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Football / Re: Warriors pull out T&T Gold Cup squad.

« on: May 26, 2007, 04:51:34 AM »

I know since the era of Eric we like to blame the gov't but this eh have nutten to do with them. whatthe gov't should do is move in take over the football and leh we get ban. the TTFF cyah be reformed is some bombers to mash up Picton Street and start ovah with no sign of Jack and co

So Bretha, Who go we blame paps? The GOV'T has the powers over sports and if something ent right...they could hire and fire. They have the LAST say...but like ah say before who go guard thee guards.

I agree that the Government should have Demanded certain answers before they had given any moneys in the past, but if the government were to take over the TTFF, then Warner's friend Blatter would BAN TnT from any FIFA sanctioned event.

What is the plan of ACTION for the Soca warrior fans?  I have one serious suggestion for warrior nation.

1.  Plan an organized MARCH in front of the TTFF office, where you will have a press conference.
2. Contact the police commissioner and get permission for the march
3. We the fans get our banners ready.
4. Fans from abroad who can offer support, organise your plane trip once the date is given.
5.  Place an ADVERTISEMENT in the paper letting all soca warrior fans know a march is in effect.
http://www.socawarriors.net/forum/index.php?topic=27953.msg315463#msg315463

6. Invite all soca warrior fans to walk with a T&T flag as a sign of solidarity and wear red...

• we want transparency in how TTFF runs their business.
• We want financial statements published in the papers.
• We want players selected for the games based on ABILITY, players must earn their position based on being the cream of the crop.

 
7.  We want the TTFF to speak to the fans.  If they are not in the country, they should sent a representative to answer the questions.
8. If the fans do not get an answer from this march. then step up protest actions at the games....Chanting, banners etc.

This is not a time to back down.  We want to celebrate just like Mexicans, USA.  Its time the fans DEMAND that the TTFF put their house in order.   Bring victory home o'else.......