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and it had more mexicans there than trinis.Ay thanks fella ..lose mih focus fuh a second dey yes!
they heading south of the border.
i run into some working in central.
more pix here - http://www.terra.com.mx/galeria.aspx?galeriaId=20815
As a Fatima man it hurtin' meh to say it...but congrats to CIC our sister school...rep the North Zone well...
I've seen KJ play the outside midfield position to a decent effect and he was effective but at the time he was a different player ...different attitude. He has fallen back as a player and is definitely not an option for the center mid ... kj started off as a defender and has nothing near the understanding, touch or creativity that make men like Yorke and Rougier good options in the centermid position. His touch is poor as is his newly acquired work ethic (or lack thereof) ..... personally I'd bench him ... because the thing that seems to be affecting his game doesn't appear to be lack of ability but rather lack of application (effort , desire , motivation). That attitude is the difference between making a career and breaking it and trust me when I tell you if he doesn't improve Bruce will ship him out wether we like Bruce or not he's just seeing the things in him that we are seeing in him as well .. plain talk bad mannersWell that about sums it up - mental toughness. If KJ does not have that passion in him...then he could have all the potential in the world.. he will be mediocre at best. It is someting I personallly cannot understand...why train, diet, sacrifice..to be a professional player...and then have a bad attitude? makes no sense. Nothing like ridin a lil pine to wake a player up....however - if he does not have passion or pride, that may just be a small ting..no scene .."I still getting paid"
ps Yorke attitude got him to man u and his attitude got him out of there a tale of two cities I guess.
Motty score 44 in 85, the same year Sando Tech mash up everybody. How I know that is because Motty tell me if I break his record he was going to give me a $500....I told him no way I am getting close.....Ah reach exactly half though LOL.....Of course, I knew Neil personally.... Neil actually played the year before I went to Arima but he was blazing fast. In my opinion, Motty Haynes was the greatest scorer of all time in colleges league....Un"freaking"believeable....the man score 44 goals in one year....Bake yuh hear that 44....I eh think nobody come close again but I could be wrong....Right now, I just want them to survive in the top flight.....This demotion thing eh go wok....Men like Motty cussing and Mickey rolling over in he grave....Come on Arima....leh we do it.....
Man call real name dey boy... Motty Haynes, know how long me eh hear dat man name. Yuh remember Neil DeSilva... he mighta been a couple years before Motty and dem. He was another fella from Valencia... was on de 92 or 96 4x400 Olympic team.
Arima - I think Jason Rocke had 30'somting in the all competitions back in 91 or 92 .... but 44 is madness.. I know you well "net up" in your days to though.
Ah college league...how I miss dem days!! Hope the league returns to the status it had back in '85 through about '92....(I am sure in other eras too)...but during that time you had rell ballas dread!!
Clearly you have never really played the game and are simply just a fan of the game.....to insinuate that KJ can play center mid does really even deserve a response.....start all the u-20 team. let them get even more experience. only call back Kenwyne, birchall, and Glen (if healthy). Leave out all who over 30, including carlosThompson is our future Carlos. Lets ensure from now he could cross the ball. Would be good to see him playing inside of Carlos on de flank....
My Side...
G. Samuel
Carlos Abu Lawrence Samuel
Thompson Tinto Noel Hector
KB KJ
subs... Lawrence will get tired / JJames - Hector is inexperienced / Daniel - Kerry Baptiste go bun / Zamora
That is the side there, although I would be surprised if any of the U20's get a start. So a squad like this might be more realistic:
Phillips
Carlos --- Lawrence -- Abu Bakr -- Samuel
Tinto --- K. Jones --- Noel --- Hector
Zamora -- Scotland
People must remember that Lawrence is the skipper, so he will start at the back. I know there will be rumbling about Jones in the mid - but why not? Once he can be convinced to work hard in there, I see know reason why we can't groom him as an option there. Plus many folks have said that he is not a striker, but he definitely factors in our future ...why not as a mid?
Thomson will be the 1st player off the bench for Tinto - around the 70th minute
Baptiste for Scotland - around the 70th
Primus or James for Hector - same time (move Carlos to the left flank)
Of course, I knew Neil personally.... Neil actually played the year before I went to Arima but he was blazing fast. In my opinion, Motty Haynes was the greatest scorer of all time in colleges league....Un"freaking"believeable....the man score 44 goals in one year....Bake yuh hear that 44....I eh think nobody come close again but I could be wrong....Right now, I just want them to survive in the top flight.....This demotion thing eh go wok....Men like Motty cussing and Mickey rolling over in he grave....Come on Arima....leh we do it.....
Man call real name dey boy... Motty Haynes, know how long me eh hear dat man name. Yuh remember Neil DeSilva... he mighta been a couple years before Motty and dem. He was another fella from Valencia... was on de 92 or 96 4x400 Olympic team.
to memories.
start all the u-20 team. let them get even more experience. only call back Kenwyne, birchall, and Glen (if healthy). Leave out all who over 30, including carlosThompson is our future Carlos. Lets ensure from now he could cross the ball. Would be good to see him playing inside of Carlos on de flank....
My Side...
G. Samuel
Carlos Abu Lawrence Samuel
Thompson Tinto Noel Hector
KB KJ
subs... Lawrence will get tired / JJames - Hector is inexperienced / Daniel - Kerry Baptiste go bun / Zamora
Go T&T
Wham Slates ..how you emotional so? Like yuh wha men like JC mash yuh up or wha??I had my doubts about Latas eh, but I'll say this, after watch last night's game, I will prefer to see them forget about nuff ah dem foreign based, and let Latas develop a core of local based into a TEAM.
Keep JLloyd, Birchall, Carlos. Tell Kenwyne to handle he stories at Sunlun and wish him well. Pick up the men on the U20 and leh we push on to 2014 with dat startin now.
Oh, one more thing, tell Daniel if yuh ever ketch him anyway near where de national team training, we go have to do him sumting devious. STAY WAY!
Other dan dat, give Latas a chance with de local youths. I firmly believe now, after watching last night, dat a TEAM of locals, given time with Latas and Yorke, go be much better dan de fragmented bullshit we gettin when dem foreign based ride in 2, 3 days before a game. I think we could be good enuff to run with de best in de hex by 2014 qualifying.
Give Latas & Yorke a chance! Let dem start now, run some friendlies and watch de ride.
Watch de ride to not even makin de Hex.
Our BEST players will ALWAYS get contracts abroad and go abroad to ply their trade because it's simply not good enough here.
So you REALLY think a squad of players who are NOT OUR BEST PLAYERS playing in our inferior league will somehow do better?
LOL!
I happen to believe that given time to play together, they will do better than a "pick-up" squad of foreign based players... yes!
Just my opinion dred.
How good did our Best Premiership Striker do last night and any other night?
Man rock so wit dat local side nah man!! ...I don't see a problem with men that like the whole star boy ting and choose to run when they want to. 
Wow...a lot of emotional and educated views. Sometimes even both in the same post.
Despite all the love and support for the warriors, I haven't seen anyone stating the brutal and blatant truth....I believe I may have said it in an earlier post....our team is simply not good. Not for local, regional and definitely not international football.
The writing has been on the wall ever since we limped into the 06 world cup.
Only Beenhakker, a determined yorke and an inspirational latapy had anything do with that qualification. As soon as they got even further on in age, that was the end of our football.
I keep seeing posts saying how Daniel is so talented and promising, and I keep asking myself if these ppl are serious?
Daniel has never done anything on any level except score against some below par and jokey teams. He plays like he has worms and is in dire need of a zentel. Imagine getting 6 corners and doing absolutely nothing with any one of them. Yet he plays 90 mins.
Marvin Andrews is more pastor than player. Not that anything is wrong with that, but he was never good with a ball at his feet. Remember the game is football not head ball.
From the minute I heard that Theobold was starting I watched Arg vs Bra on setanta. Trinidad and Tobago could never be serious if he's on the team. A midfielder making no positive contribution to any game, offensively or defensively, is no midfielder to be on any team.
As someone posted, Carlos shows consistently why he is a championship player nad not a premier league player. As much as I love Carlos, no right sided player, especially a winger/midfielder, worth his salt, will be so piss poor at crosses.
What is Kerry Baptiste to do again? In form, scoring all the goals and cant get a fair look in the national team. Why do we play football then? Its these things that demoralise players.
Ppl cry down Kenwyne Jones, but his presence is didturbing to defenders. He plays at about 80% for us, and it appears that the coaching staff knows it but is comfortable with it.
Glenn is a great impact player, just not from the start. He will do well against tired legs. Any one who has seen him for game after game will notice a tendency to fall to ground when under pressure. Its a tactic he uses to excuse himself from anonymity.
Latapy, has the heart for the coaching job. I think we should persevere with him so he can get the experience to perfect the art. He chops and changes the defence too often, and doesnt seem to have the ability to be practical rather than hopeful. A trait that Beenhakker showed ruthlessly.
Trent Noel made little forward passes. Thats our player of the year?
At one time, we were 3 down and had a free kick, and a couple of our players were smiling (I saw a laugh but doubted it so much that I cant categorically state it). That sums up our attitude perfectly....World cup on the line, licks in we ass and we happy.
We mirror the WI cricket team almost exactly....we are simply NOT GOOD.
2014 anyone?
That is what I was hopin' to hear "...MLS ..crap ..league" - - but for us is still playin ball in foreign .. do our Pro(fessional) League players have agents? That try to secure contracts overseas?
How old a fella is Baptiste?? Is he on the right side of 30? .... real insult to us over-30 fellas that still feel as though we could still put een a good shift of football!!
When I see Adebayor drag between them 2 defenders de odder day ...ah jump up yes. Ah recognize dat as one of my "Iusedtobeabletododats"! .... say wah, memories!
KB is 28. He was always primarily used as a wing player because of his speed and decent crossing ability. This is the first year he has been unleashed as a striker so up til now for many this would stand as a surprise. He has had stints on our national teams before and if you hear some tell it, he doesn't belong anywhere near a football pitch. He hasn't had any trials that I have heard of but again he never played this role before. I honestly feel given his attributes and current form he should be the first forward off the bench when a change is needed upfront. But I am in the minority by far on that as most folks seem to believe that he had his chance. Funny some of the same folks wailing and knashing teeth for Scot Sealy who has had much more opportunities with very little to show for it. As far as MLS goes is not always that the players make more there, so when given the choice some stay here and play rather than go foreign to play ball and ketch ass.
Ah right pardner, whatever you say. thanks for saving meh eh, it's just what i've been waiting for all these yrs, someone like you tuh come around and save me from meh self. thanks again for the enlightenment. i don't know what i would've done without your input.Eh is you who started wid me yuh know fella, so doh make it sound like iz the aggressor! before today i didn't even know you exist, so go fack yuhself wid yuh passive aggression and yuh sanctimonious horse sh!t, and come off ah my dick pretty please pardner!You real annoying too , but yuh doh hear me cussin you out now do you! if yuh want that kinda relationship wid me lady then fine, yuh got it , ah only hope yuh could handle it BC i real forkin cold and dutty when i ready! and i doh fear ah MDRFKR nowhere @ no time! and for the record Latas is ah c#nt and he will prove it on wednesday!Latapy gone mad breddren!! this time he eh go win! and ah only waiting for jack tuh bring in ah proper coach! BC since leo leave out we didn't have ah coach who know what de fack he doing! imagine bledder making ah team before hyland and whitley, the bredder julius james playing some good ball, but he still can't get ah call before hislop , kenyo and dog!Head Coach Russell Latapy, his technical staff and eleven home-based professionals left Piarco International Airport for Honduras via Miami at 8am on Monday. The team will have its first training session on Tuesday at 3pm at the Francisco Morazan Stadium in San Pedro Sula .A little bit out of the way isn't it?
By the way if that squad is right where the hell are (Collin) Samuel, Roberts, and Hyland?
latapy gone stearing forkin mad!
u gettin real annoyin wid dis negative shit rite thru rite thru. u cuda coach any f**kin better?
steups!
Yeah Just (Not) Cool .. yuh win fella. I not in dat. De prayers done send out though ..so we will see. The MAN above loves us all. Even you fella. So when all the noise dies down in yuh head - after hearing yourself - in that quiet moment... you will feel HIS love.
Yuh could be vex with everybody... but yuh cyar deny the MAN upstairs.
Bless.
...and as we say
Life is Good.
True true ..is I who look fuh mih ting!!.... Lucky for me, you believe that "the pen is mightier the sword", imagine a bad man like you with a sword, we woulda see you in 300!!... you seem educated, calling me passive aggressive and ting... so go up bredda ..victory is yours.
Life (still) Good though.
Eh is you who started wid me yuh know fella, so doh make it sound like iz the aggressor! before today i didn't even know you exist, so go fack yuhself wid yuh passive aggression and yuh sanctimonious horse sh!t, and come off ah my dick pretty please pardner!You real annoying too , but yuh doh hear me cussin you out now do you! if yuh want that kinda relationship wid me lady then fine, yuh got it , ah only hope yuh could handle it BC i real forkin cold and dutty when i ready! and i doh fear ah MDRFKR nowhere @ no time! and for the record Latas is ah c#nt and he will prove it on wednesday!Latapy gone mad breddren!! this time he eh go win! and ah only waiting for jack tuh bring in ah proper coach! BC since leo leave out we didn't have ah coach who know what de fack he doing! imagine bledder making ah team before hyland and whitley, the bredder julius james playing some good ball, but he still can't get ah call before hislop , kenyo and dog!Head Coach Russell Latapy, his technical staff and eleven home-based professionals left Piarco International Airport for Honduras via Miami at 8am on Monday. The team will have its first training session on Tuesday at 3pm at the Francisco Morazan Stadium in San Pedro Sula .
By the way if that squad is right where the hell are (Collin) Samuel, Roberts, and Hyland?
latapy gone stearing forkin mad!
u gettin real annoyin wid dis negative shit rite thru rite thru. u cuda coach any f**kin better?
steups!
Yeah Just (Not) Cool .. yuh win fella. I not in dat. De prayers done send out though ..so we will see. The MAN above loves us all. Even you fella. So when all the noise dies down in yuh head - after hearing yourself - in that quiet moment... you will feel HIS love.
Yuh could be vex with everybody... but yuh cyar deny the MAN upstairs.
Bless.
...and as we say
Life is Good.
You real annoying too , but yuh doh hear me cussin you out now do you! if yuh want that kinda relationship wid me lady then fine, yuh got it , ah only hope yuh could handle it BC i real forkin cold and dutty when i ready! and i doh fear ah MDRFKR nowhere @ no time! and for the record Latas is ah c#nt and he will prove it on wednesday!Latapy gone mad breddren!! this time he eh go win! and ah only waiting for jack tuh bring in ah proper coach! BC since leo leave out we didn't have ah coach who know what de fack he doing! imagine bledder making ah team before hyland and whitley, the bredder julius james playing some good ball, but he still can't get ah call before hislop , kenyo and dog!Head Coach Russell Latapy, his technical staff and eleven home-based professionals left Piarco International Airport for Honduras via Miami at 8am on Monday. The team will have its first training session on Tuesday at 3pm at the Francisco Morazan Stadium in San Pedro Sula .
By the way if that squad is right where the hell are (Collin) Samuel, Roberts, and Hyland?
latapy gone stearing forkin mad!
u gettin real annoyin wid dis negative shit rite thru rite thru. u cuda coach any f**kin better?
steups!
on the coach for the desired results. You are banking on the fact the coach and players look at the forum, and see this ridiculous post as some kind of motivation.
Gally is a big fart !!!!Sam..come on nah man. Dat is your contribution??
Birchill for Yorke is the answer. Put Daniel next to memum on the left with Colin samuel/ jagdeo on the left wing. Tinto on the right and let us bring yorke for the last twenty minutes to hold up the lead we will have.
Jlloyd samuel as right back with Abu bakr Tallest Avery. Ince in goal. S/A here we come.
KJ and Stern up front- with Glen as the super sub.
No sah ... my comment is not limited to black people... if it was, I would have said ("More black people") ... and yes, all I can speak of is from my experience. I have been coaching in the US north east for the last 10 yrs..and could count on one hand, how many "minority" coaches, I have coached against. 90% of the players we have played against are non-minorities.. why is that? My team plays at a high level, at highly regarded tournaments and leagues...and this is the mix of coaches / players that I have seen.Lifeisgood I understand all about why people doh like USA coz after 89 I hated the bastards more than any place on earth but I came to my senses.I honestly feel that it would be a great fillip for USA to beat Brasil on Sunday.Frico - well said sah...sorry I am now getting back to this. I agree, Concacaf gets very little respect and until.....(everything you said).....will get none.
For too long CONCACAF been treated like the CINDERELLA of the football world,even Asia get treated better.I now back all CONCACAF teams no matter who they play,I even back Jamaica when they play outside of the CONCACAF.I want our teams and players to be taken seriously and that will happen when CONCACAF START BEATING UP TEAMS OUTSIDE THE REGION.I dont understand the hero worship that the South Americans get when man kick 2 good ball, while our players play their bollocks off and dont get anywhere.One day when we beating people regular we players will be accepted.Nuff said!
I am just not ready to see the US carry the Concacaf flag...cyar back dem. Waay too arrogant...have you seen and heard quotes of their players and coaches, when discussing their smaller Concacaf counterpart nations? So we must respect them and pull for them..when it is not reciprocated? ... You think the american die-hard fan would give a rats a%% if Haiti was playing England? They rootin for England patna!... So fire bun fi dem..
The universe has return to its rightful standing. Overhyped Brazil showed their class yesterday and IMO showed that they are the best in the world. Even down 0-2, they did not necessarily change the way they play..they just played with a little more purpose...came out of 2nd gear as they say. It could have been 6-0 at half ..and I think Brazil would have won the game 7-6. That is the beauty of Brazil, never got flustered (a la Spain), they just kept playing..and yuh see. As I said earlier for the sake of the Beautiful game..Brazil needed to deliver...because if not it any team that play a fit-corbeaux brand (a la US) could go on a lucky run. In 5 yrs we will all forget that the US came 2nd in this tournament (thank goodness)
Until US soccer becomes less classist -- they will only develop the occasional "good" team. For a nation with so many international influences, there should be way more minorities playing ..but because competitive youth soccer is so expensive, you cut down your talent pool tremendously, because kids/families can't afford it. The ones that can, act like they are the best..not based on talent, but on mom and dads bank account.
so when yuh say minorities, yuh mean black people right? not mexicans/west indians/central americans/south americans/etcs.....who exactly yuh mean does act like dey is de best, the boys themselves or de parents....doh get meh wrong yuh, i imagine posting based on your experiences and reality right, but as ah man who see it different it just interesting to me, mustbe whey ah living.
I hear yuh..but my experience to date is this. I currently coach a U18 team that has been reasonably successful over the last 4 yrs. The team was formed to get exposure for the players, and hopefully scholarships to play college ball. Over the 4 yrs - just the team fees alone, averaged $1500 a yr...add to that the travel to the major tournaments..where the college coaches are... 3 nights in a hotel plus meals... 4 major tournaments....the cost adds up.Frico - well said sah...sorry I am now getting back to this. I agree, Concacaf gets very little respect and until.....(everything you said).....will get none.
I am just not ready to see the US carry the Concacaf flag...cyar back dem. Waay too arrogant...have you seen and heard quotes of their players and coaches, when discussing their smaller Concacaf counterpart nations? So we must respect them and pull for them..when it is not reciprocated? ... You think the american die-hard fan would give a rats a%% if Haiti was playing England? They rootin for England patna!... So fire bun fi dem..
The universe has return to its rightful standing. Overhyped Brazil showed their class yesterday and IMO showed that they are the best in the world. Even down 0-2, they did not necessarily change the way they play..they just played with a little more purpose...came out of 2nd gear as they say. It could have been 6-0 at half ..and I think Brazil would have won the game 7-6. That is the beauty of Brazil, never got flustered (a la Spain), they just kept playing..and yuh see. As I said earlier for the sake of the Beautiful game..Brazil needed to deliver...because if not it any team that play a fit-corbeaux brand (a la US) could go on a lucky run. In 5 yrs we will all forget that the US came 2nd in this tournament (thank goodness)
Until US soccer becomes less classist -- they will only develop the occasional "good" team. For a nation with so many international influences, there should be way more minorities playing ..but because competitive youth soccer is so expensive, you cut down your talent pool tremendously, because kids/families can't afford it. The ones that can, act like they are the best..not based on talent, but on mom and dads bank account.
Is not really the expense that deters most yuh know. Not saying it's cheap but the whole setup is designed for stay at home parents or those who have ah guardian to watch their children after school. My son turning 5 and at 3 we was looking into the camps and leagues (might be premature for some) and we get to realize that there are 1. hardly any in or close to urban areas in this city and 2. they are mostly weekdays at times ranging from 1-3pm. so it cut out all the working class people with children who interested or even show signs of natural telent that come from middle class family homes.
Zeppo, you seem like a reasonable fella, with a love for the game..and no matter what you backin your side - the US. I respect that.
The U.S. did well. It's as much as they could realistically expect from the crop of players that they have. When you compare the personnel, you have to say that they did well- and they finally got some help from the ref for a change lol...In the end the better team won, and yuh really have to tip your hat to Brazil for showing the patience & quality to claw back 3 (4
The glaring difference between a good solid outfit like the States and a World contender like Brazil is the manner in which they shift into 5th gear. At the highest level of US intensity, it's a gritty, scrappy leave it all on the field style of play where they're literally fighting for every yard...and where they are more likely to lose that shape and balance, and eventually get caught out (or run out of steam whichever comes first)...When a team like Brazil takes it up a notch (Spain as well though they were unlucky not to score), they are better are maintaining a fluid cohesive team performance with every thing executed at a higher level of intensity. There was a point in the game (roughly 10 mins before half time) where it was almost like Brazil said "ok let's take it up a notch"...and from that point on, they were playing at a higher level than the U.S. could deal with, and because it's more of a balanced collective shift in gears, they're still able maintain their shape and not get too caught out...they literally won everything in the middle of the field, to the point where B.Bradley had to take out Altidore, and crowd the midfield with Klejstan deep in the 2nd half to even have a shot at maintaining the ball and staying in the game.
That difference is a reflection of the quality (physically but more technically) of individual players...player for player, the States was outmatched...Hopefully for their sake, with time the U.S. will be able to fill their roster with higher quality players and be able to put games like yesterday's away. Until then, teams of the calibre of Brazil, Italy, Argentina etc will most times be "too good" for them...Still a step in the right direction for U.S. soccer nevertheless... no doubt about that- they should be quite proud of what they did in this tournament.
Good assessment, kicker. I agree with all of it.
Brazil just has too many weapons and we could only hold out for so long. You see the difference when the teams go to the bench for subs; Brazil brings on Elano and Daniel Alves, while the USA brings on Jonathan Bornstein and Conor Casey. We definitely have slim pickens by comparison.
Lifeisgood I understand all about why people doh like USA coz after 89 I hated the bastards more than any place on earth but I came to my senses.I honestly feel that it would be a great fillip for USA to beat Brasil on Sunday.Frico - well said sah...sorry I am now getting back to this. I agree, Concacaf gets very little respect and until.....(everything you said).....will get none.
For too long CONCACAF been treated like the CINDERELLA of the football world,even Asia get treated better.I now back all CONCACAF teams no matter who they play,I even back Jamaica when they play outside of the CONCACAF.I want our teams and players to be taken seriously and that will happen when CONCACAF START BEATING UP TEAMS OUTSIDE THE REGION.I dont understand the hero worship that the South Americans get when man kick 2 good ball, while our players play their bollocks off and dont get anywhere.One day when we beating people regular we players will be accepted.Nuff said!
