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Football / Highlights
« on: August 08, 2010, 10:13:02 AM »
Zulte Waregem vs KV Mechelen

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Rogge rips the wrong guy
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports

BEIJING — Jacques Rogge is so bought, so compromised, the president of the IOC doesn’t have the courage to criticize China for telling a decade of lies to land itself these Olympic Games.

All the promises made to get these Games — on Tibet, Darfur, pollution, worker safety, freedom of expression, dissident rights — turned out to be phony, perhaps as phony as the Chinese gymnasts’ birthdates Rogge was way too scared to investigate.

One of the most powerful men in sports turned the world away from his complicity. Instead, he has flexed his muscles by unloading on a powerless sprinter from a small island nation.

Rogge’s ripping of Usain Bolt’s supposed showboating in two of the most electrifying gold-medal performances of these Games has to be one of the most ill-timed and gutless acts in the modern history of the Olympics.

“That’s not the way we perceive being a champion,” Rogge said of the Jamaican sprinter. “I have no problem with him doing a show. I think he should show more respect for his competitors and shake hands, give a tap on the shoulder to the other ones immediately after the finish and not make gestures like the one he made in the 100 meters.”

Oh, this is richer than those bribes and kickbacks the IOC got caught taking.

All the powerful nations — including the United States — have carte blanche at the Games. They can pout and preen, cheat, throw bean balls, file wild complaints, break promises that got them a host bid, whatever they want. They can take turns slapping Rogge and his cronies around like rag dolls as long as the dinner with a good wine list gets paid.

A single individual sprinter? Even if you don’t like his manner, that’s whom Rogge deems it necessary to attack, to issue a worldwide condemnation?

“I understand the joy,” Rogge said. “He might have interpreted that in another way, but the way it was perceived was ‘catch me if you can.’ You don’t do that. But he’ll learn. He’s still a young man.”

Perceived by whom? Old fat cats making billions of Olympic dollars on the backs of athletes like Bolt for a century now? They get to define this? They get to lecture about learning?

Bolt is everything the Olympics are supposed to be about. He isn’t the product of some rich country, some elaborate training program that churns out gold medals by any means necessary.

He’s a breath of fresh air, a guy who came out of nowhere to enrapture the world with his athletic performance and colorful personality. This is no dead-eye product of some massive machine.

He was himself, and the world loved him for it.

On his own force of will, Bolt has become the break-out star of these Games. He saved the post-Michael Phelps Olympics. It wasn’t so much his world-record times, but the flair, the fun.

No one at the track had a problem with this guy; they understood he is everything the sport needs to recover from an era of extreme doping. The Lightning Bolt made people care about track again, something that seemed impossible two weeks ago.

“I don’t feel like he’s being disrespectful,” American Shawn Crawford told the Associated Press. “He deserves to dance.”

Apparently, Rogge would prefer 12-year-old gymnasts too frightened to crack a smile.

It got better when, in the same press conference, he pretended to forget all the lies China told him to get this bid, all the troubles, all the challenges, and praised the host nation. Yes, these have been an exceptionally well-run Games from a tactical standpoint, and the Chinese people have displayed otherworldly kindness.

None of which denies the promises broken, the innocent jailed, the freedoms denied — the kind of issues someone with Jacques Rogge’s standing should be talking about.

He has no spine for that. Not for China. Not for any big country. He had to criticize someone, he had to make headlines, he had to show he was a tough guy. So who better than someone from somewhere that can’t ever touch him back?

Yes, Usain Bolt is the problem of the Olympics. He’s the embarrassment. He’s the one who needs to learn.

Sure, Jacques, sure.

Football / FIFA and UEFA agree $252m deal with clubs
« on: January 21, 2008, 12:26:54 PM »
from: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=500451

FIFA and UEFA agree $252m deal with clubs

NYON, Switzerland, Jan 21 (Reuters) - FIFA and UEFA have agreed to pay around $252 million over the next six years to compensate clubs whose players take part in World Cups and European championships.

The deal, involving a $110 million payment by FIFA and approximately $142 million by UEFA, was confirmed to Reuters by FC Barcelona's director of international relations Raul Sanilehi during a meeting at UEFA's Swiss headquarters on Monday.

FIFA will contribute $40 million for clubs whose players participate in the 2010 World Cup with the sum rising to $70 million for 2014.

UEFA will also make a fixed payment of $63 million (43.5 million euros) for June's Euro 2008 tournament. The 2012 figure is expected to be around $79 million (55 million euros) but will be dependent upon total revenue from the event, due to be staged in Poland and Ukraine.

UEFA were set to formally announce the deal at a media conference later on Monday.

FIFA and UEFA announced last week that they would compensate clubs whose players are involved in either of their flagship tournaments.

The funds provided by the governing bodies will be partly used to provide insurance for players injured during international competitions - a long-standing issue of contention between the clubs and national teams.

Sanilehi said that other concessions had been made in favour of the clubs including an agreement that international matches would be played on Saturdays and Tuesdays, rather than Saturdays and Wednesdays - allowing players one more day to recover before their next domestic matches.

Clubs will in future only have to release players for one friendly match a year played outside of their own continent.

The Barcelona director also said that UEFA had agreed 'as much as possible' to limit the number of teams taking part in European Championship qualifying groups to six - further reducing the number of international matches in the calendar.

In return, the 18 members of the self-appointed G14 group of top clubs are set to disband.

Instead European clubs will be represented by a new independent European Club Association made up of more than 100 members from all 53 national associations.

FPATT, in relation to what you are saying about the English talent being stifled, are you sure about there being that much more foreign talent in the EPL as opposed to La Liga/Serie A, or even less successful leagues from countries that have done well (France/Netherlands?) I personally would like to see the figures

The October 2007 Issue of World Soccer Magazine (page 12 & 13) gives a breakdown of the total number of players in a few countries' top divisions.

England 338
The number of foreign players in the Premiership, an average of 16.9 per club.  The figure includes 41 players from the home nations of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.  Arsenal and Birmingham have the most foreigners, 23 each, followed by Bolton on 22 and Liverpool and Fulham both on 21.  Derby, Middlesborough and West Ham have the fewest, 12 each.

Germany 237
The number of foreign players in the Bundesliga, an average of 13.1 per club.  Nurnberg have the most, 19 Hansa Rostock have the fewest, nine.

France 209
The number of foreign players in Ligue 1, an average of 10.5 per club.  Metz, with 21 have the most; Lorient have the fewest, six.

Italy: 198
The number of foreigners in Serie A, an average of 9.9 per club.  Internazionale have the most, 23.  Empoli have the fewest, three.

Spain: 184
The number of foreigners in La Liga, an average of 9.2 per club.  Sevilla have the most, 19 followed by Real Madrid with 16 and Barcelona with 15.  Athletic Bilbao have none - they still have a Basques-only policy.

Russia 174
The number of foreign players in the top division, an average of 10.8 per club.  The figure includes 65 players from former Soviet republics.  Rubin Kazan have the most foreigners, 18; Luch-Energiya of Vladivostok have the fewest, six.

Mexico: 90
The number of foreign players in the first division.  Each Club is allowed to have six foreigners, with five allowed on the field at any one time.

Japan: 60
The number of foreign players in the J.League, 43 of them Brazilians.  Only one club, Nagoya Grampus Eight, has no Brazilian players.

Austrailia: 28
The number of foreign players in the A-League.  They include players Mario Jardel, once of Porto, and former Middlesborough midfielder Juninho, and Dutchman Bobby Petta, once of Ipswich and Celtic

Brazil 23
The number of foreigners in the national championship.  Only two of them are not from South America - Serb Dejan Petkovic at Santos and Angolan Johnson at Goias.  Eight clubs - Parana, Figueirense, Juventude, Atletico Mineiro, Fluminense, Botafogo, Sport Recife and America - have no foreign players.

Football / Re: Trinis in Action (Sept 15, 2007)
« on: September 15, 2007, 08:32:34 AM »
Goal Kenwyne 1-0 Sunderland

Football / Re: Feed for Sunderland vs Reading??
« on: September 15, 2007, 07:16:38 AM »

Football / Sparta Rotterdam 1 - 2 Vitesse Arnhem
« on: August 19, 2007, 08:54:51 AM »
Roberts came on in the 83rd minute.


Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Ghana U-17 Game.
« on: August 17, 2007, 11:09:59 AM »
ESPN 360 will be carrying the this game, at 6:45 AM EST.

Football / Re: Sunderland vs Brimingham
« on: August 16, 2007, 12:52:25 AM »

Football / Re: Work Permits: When They Want You, They Want You
« on: August 10, 2007, 11:31:51 PM »
Feilhaber has a few national team caps already, he played in the Gold Cup.  (If you remember he scored that game winning volley against Mexico in the final).  He was also at Hamburg in the Bundesliga.  So there's a bit of a difference between himself and Peltier.

Football / Re: Fire Jack Warner now petition website
« on: August 10, 2007, 06:25:06 PM »
Thanks for agreeing with me that he needs to get out of TNT football.

OK fair enough, I only half agree with you.

Also not sure how my attitude comes across as being selfish.

Here's why:
Warner is noted for his dishonesty, corruption, etc and your attitude is: "As long as he's not hurting me, I don't care".  That's selfish, or narrow minded, if you prefer.

As for him benefiting CONCACAF, his actions only serve to line his own pockets.  You want to talk about his resume?  You're a regular poster on this board, are you unaware of the Blacklist, Ticket Scandal, Nov 19 Bogus Ticket Scandal?  Did you forget about him moving the CONCACAF offices into a building which he owns, to collect the rent? (This is only the stuff we know about, mind you).  It seems like you're only selective about the parts of his "resume" you wish to highlight.

Didn't he contribute so much to our world cup campaign?  We got to the World Cup and now we're playing "Where's Waldo" with the money.  He didn't even see fit to give the players what they were due. 

Yes he's doing alot for the region  ::).  Much like me stealing your car, selling it, then lending you some money towards the purchase of another, real generous eh?

Football / Re: Fire Jack Warner now petition website
« on: August 10, 2007, 03:21:25 PM »
He can do his thing as FIFA vice President, more power to him. He must go from our football.

I disagree with this, he must go from all football, he's no use to anyone in the global football fraternity, your attitude comes across as selfish.  Especially as on this very board there are alot of threads which have to do with our compatriots footballing adventures (and misadventures) in England among other countries.  The irony.

Football / Re: Fire Jack Warner now petition website
« on: August 10, 2007, 02:22:05 PM »
Had another official made similar similarly disparaging comments about T&T many on this forum would have been as heated.  If people from other countries then displayed the "It's not my country, no big deal" attitude, more Trini veins would bulge.  How quickly some of us are forgetting 2 Englishmen on this very board (and one in this thread) who are contributing in a significant way to T&T football.

This is an opportunity, strike while the iron is hot, make hay while the sun shines, and other clichés apply.

Sometimes your enemy's enemy is your friend.

Football / Re: Fire Jack Warner now petition website
« on: August 10, 2007, 01:58:21 PM »
  jack warner is the best thing that happened for tnt football inpite of his imperfections


Football / Re: Dunga criticizes Ronaldinho and Kaka
« on: June 25, 2007, 06:23:13 PM »
please,  you or any body  mind puttin it here? or at least link? i was about to find out where i could find their roster..


Football / Re: JW: Rijsbergen to be re-evalutated
« on: June 17, 2007, 11:19:28 AM »
lol.  I see it as a good thing dat shit hound!


Out of curiosity, who would you hire as his replacement?

For me, the files play great in VLC:

Football / Re: JW: Rijsnergen to be re-evalutated
« on: June 16, 2007, 11:37:32 AM »

Football / Re: For The Record (Warning may be offensive)
« on: June 06, 2007, 10:42:06 AM »
If the boss say he will give me a BONUS and he didn't give me ...would you propose I take him to court for that? As a boss people say all types of things to motivate...Its time for a change

You'll make a good slave.

Football / Re: For The Record (Warning may be offensive)
« on: June 06, 2007, 10:27:39 AM »
For the Record I am NOT Jack Warner fan…..Ponnoxx

The man has done plenty of wrong to our Football, but he also has done things that helped us. I do not agree with the blacklist but I think is time for a change. Let us examine the blacklist properly and see if there can be a reason why players were left out. Marco Van Basten has made a similar move with Holland(even though their younger players play at a high level too) with some decent and reasonable results.

Interesting you mention Van Basten.  I'd like to point out that van basten is the head coach of the team and the one rightly in charge of player selection.  Van Nistelrooij (who was also recently recalled) and others had not been blacklisted by their federation.  Seeing as how Rijsbergen wanted to select some of the blacklisted players don't you think they should have been allowed to?  (him being the head coach and all)

It's also interesting how you try to rationalise the blacklist by making it seem as though most of the the players in question are past their prime or not good.  My question is, if these guys were all (in your opinion) in top form would the blacklist then be unjust?  (as an aside it's also interesting how you state that you don't agree with the blacklist, yet then write "Let us examine the blacklist properly and see if there can be a reason why players were left out.")

The players had a contract, the TTFF are in breach of the contract, it's that simple.  Don't you work?  What would happen if you didn't get the things your employer agreed to?

Football / Re: Trinidad & Tobago win the first Digicel Shield Cup.
« on: May 31, 2007, 10:53:48 PM »
Rocell I am also and advocate for local players and my attitude towards those players would not change if their attitude doesn't change. The blacklisted players basically fighting for a bonus...Anybody who work anywhere will know that a bonus is not a sure thing. I want the locals to do well in the Gold Cup and if that means excluding blacklisters in future ventures, I will still be glad.

They are fighting over a bonus promised to them, so in this case it was a sure thing.  They had a contract.

So basically you're saying that Warner & co can continue to mistreat players and abuse their positions as long as they put a team on the field.

Another question I have is what happens when some of these players go to play abroad, is your support of them the same?

Football / Re: Trinidad & Tobago win the first Digicel Shield Cup.
« on: May 31, 2007, 01:07:46 PM »
:applause: :applause: :applause:
    It seems the more problems our Football have we are still getting some good results,this is what makes TTFF stand firm on decisions they make,i'm just sorry for those WC players and the stand they took everything is backfiring on them and Jack comes out on top.
    As you all know i'm an advocate for the locals and my applause is really for local Football and Players,this is another victory for them,people still saying this is a B/C team,i think we better start getting used to it,this is the team that will be representing T&T from now on,we dealing with one tournament at a time watch out for the Gold Cup here we come,well done guys.

OK you're an advocate for local footballers, are you going to feel differently about this bunch if/when some of them go abroad to play?

Are Stern, Edwards et al somehow less Trinidadian because they play outside of T&T?

When Warner/TTFF treats this bunch unfairly (an inevitability) will you tell them to grin and bear it?

I think somehow for many people this situation has turned into a Blacklisted players vs Non Blacklisted players situation.  It is not.  It's a player vs TTFF situation (employer vs employee really).  I would have imagined that anyone with a job would be able to empathise, perhaps I am naive.

It feels as if the prevailing attitude is to hope that the new team does well so the excluded players won't be missed.  Meanwhile 400lb Gorillas and Pink Elephants abound.

« on: May 30, 2007, 10:43:56 AM »

But Eman that sound like a boycot to me.  In all honesty them solidarity misplaced.  Jack is a backside we all know but we can't allow his crud to hinder the progress of we football.  Winning this Cup would be huge for T&T.  It have other ways you could solidarity. e.g. where T-shirt under uni, maybe even warrior nation could help out with some creative idea.  It wasn't Jack that spend money to go see them in germany, is Trini people.  I Hope we world cup players ent forgeting that who they really playin for the people. Sometimes big contract and money does blur man vision and they does feel everthing is about them.  As an artist I struggle with that plenty.  Sometimes yuh jess have to  eat humble pie for the good of the whole.

OK so the players must do it for love and for country yet Warner and the TTFF don't have to?  They should be allowed to continue shortchanging the players (which will, in the long term,not just affect the players involved in the current dispute) and the T&T public who you care so much about.  That makes no sense.

Oh and it's definitely a blacklist.  As has been stated previously, the players are available and want to play, the TTFF won't select them.

Football / Re: TOIL AND TROUBLE - Onion Bag (satire)
« on: May 29, 2007, 11:51:32 AM »
allya should read this (serious) transcript from a BBC Show

For those who never saw or would like to see again, The corresponding video for that transcript - Panorama: The Beautiful Bung - is at:

Football / FIFA ban international matches at high altitude
« on: May 27, 2007, 11:18:23 AM »

FIFA ban international matches at high altitude

ZURICH, May 27 (Reuters) - No international soccer matches will be allowed to take place above an altitude of 2,500 metres in future, FIFA president Sepp Blatter said on Sunday.

A number of countries, among them Bolivia, frequently stage home international games at high altitude but Blatter said FIFA was following advice from its medical committee.

"I know there will be complaints about this, especially from South America, but we have to think of the health of the players first. It also leads to a distortion of the competition if matches are played at such a level.

"The Executive Committee have listened to a proposal from the medical committee and have decided to act because to play at above that altitude is not healthy or fair."

Bolivia traditionally play their home matches in La Paz, which, at more than 3,600 metres above sea level, is the highest capital city in the world.

Blatter was speaking at a news conference following the last executive committee meeting before the start of FIFA's 57th Congress this week and the inauguration of FIFA's new headquarters in Zurich.

He also said that the associations of Macedonia and Kazakhstan had been given a deadline of June 15 to resolve their internal problems or else face possible sanctions from world soccer's governing body.

He said FIFA would not relax its rules on shirt advertising for international teams and reported that of 23,000 doping tests carried out by FIFA in 2006, 91 had proved positive and of those just seven were for steroids.

"Most of the others were for marijuana or other things players use -- they were not even performance-enhancing," said Blatter, adding that FIFA would be using doping controls at all its major tournaments this year including the Under-17 and Under-20 World Cup matches in South Korea and Canada respectively.

He said he was delighted that 750,000 tickets had already been sold for the Under-20 World Cup in Canada from June 30.

(Writing by Mike Collett in London)

Football / Re: Thread for the T&T v Canada U-17 game.
« on: May 04, 2007, 05:52:06 PM »
If the game is due to begin at 8PM eastern it hasn't begun yet
The time in Jamaica

Requirements for the 2006 World Cup stadiums included:
( from http://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/projects/soccer/ )

Capacity - At least 40,000 seats for first round and quarter-final matches; at least 60,000 seats for the opening match, semi-finals, the third place play-off and final.

Media facilities - The press stands for print media must have from 600 (preliminary round) up to 2,000 (final) seats with tables plus 200-300 positions for TV and radio commentators equipped with monitors with one position consisting of three working places. 30 camera platforms of 2,500m² each are needed in every stadium, plus a minimum space of 2,500m² with accreditation offices to allow the installation of a press centre in each stadium.

Marketing - The stadium operators must guarantee the LOC advertising-free venues for the duration of the World Cup. The cities and stadia must be decorated according to FIFA's special requirements. All promotional measures and activities will be co-ordinated by FIFA and LOC.

Technical equipment - Equipment such as the electronic scoreboard, public address system and floodlight systems will be closely examined.

Further criteria included in the catalogue concern the fields of security, traffic infrastructure, accommodation and environment.

Football / Re: Pro League Magazine & Website Info
« on: October 23, 2006, 08:19:02 PM »
They've been back at http://ttproleague.com/index2.htm for a while now

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