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Would love to get those Lasana pieces in a UK tabloid. It will probably garner more interest and support than in this region.

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I just took a look to see an example of the workings of CAS in dealing with a football case

https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Award_CAS_5264-5265-5266_internet.pdf

Check the length of time to get a decision. I got almost 30 months of Lott’s a bs. Of Course The applicant submissions were dismissed.
Something had me lil confused doh.

It might be the fact that Inter Miami got in, Miami FC out. Anyone have any more info on their (FC) application?

Add: appeals might not be as long but given the current world situation, an early response or resolution might still be long rather than short term. Due to the same world situation, we have time.

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I have a question to all football loving fans of TnT football fans ! What must the ttfa do in this instance as it relates to Fifa's stance by removing a democratically elected  team of officials of the current ttfa body ? An election they ( Fifa ) themselves oversaw ! In all seriousness it is inconceivable that Fifa now  to choose invalidate the William Wallace elected body to replace it by one of their Fifa choosing ! Yet many  are now coming out of the woodwork siding with Fifa's unjust albeit nonsensical explaination for the position they have taken . It is an outrage and should be called exactly that . It is unjust and should be called that . What must the ttfa do ? Should the ttfa In all fairness Go on blended knees  begging please? What example are we setting to the younger ones by allowing such ugliness on the part of Fifa , to continue . This is not about ego on the part of the current ttfa to take a firm stance against what Fifa has done or is attempting to do as claim by Fifa , it is simply addressing an act of injustice that's my view . Stand up against injustice  falling to do so is allowing abuses to continue
Totally agree, but Stand up and do the necessary in such a way that it does not lead to additional injustice. It's most discouraging and disappointing when one buys a victim's fight against a bully and the victim help the bully buss yuh ass. And the ppl who witness and standby just observing buffing yuh for getting involved in the first place. As I tell my kids, living in any society-sometimes class filled and racial- especially an unequal one,  choose yuh battles and expect no help.  At the end of the day, if you win, many will say how correct and commendable it was for you to stand up, when you win. And those same ppl will chastise you for not being smart and practical when you lose. Pick yuh battles and plan for the future, but by all means battle.             

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maxg is nothing less than war!

You feel Fifa coming to take prisoners? It not in their best interests to leave anybody of the past admin alive (relevant)
In case you missed it this was a root and branch action.

This thing goes beyond the boundary.



Ok. Let's say we go to war. We David(WW), them Goliath(INfantino et al). We win our case, but them say nah is War, Goliath ain't dead, just lost the battle, long live Fifa, so they suspend the current TTFA for not conforming to their decisions or maybe not releasing equal normal funding as given to other regional members  (they can trump up something).Exhb a) So we have the right people, but no income, Government can't help, as all potential funding used up in present and future replenishment from fallout of Covid19. Debt still unrelaxed. Sponsorship revised and unable to assist. Covid19. Staff still to be paid, but no funds. Staff has to leave to find other jobs. Cases /Lawyers for the items with Walkes, Warner, Phillips, Hart, and whatever outstanding creditors, willing to take negotiate less, yet no funds. We can't raise a penny to play a fete match, farless put a team together. However, our best  Players agree to play for free and come on their own bill. Who we playing and where ?
Thing is, I ok with that. At this time, world economy and social values will be changing and the recovery of all countries will be of paramount.  This gives our football, time to develop(5-10yrs) and then we can reapply to join world organization, IF so desired.

Scenario B
We loss, NC is maintained, but we at War. No cooperation. Fifa withhold funding - Right ppl for some, still restricted income , but some. No staff, no confidence, no support. Football not going anywhere, as organization and admin is the focus. No football for a few years, Electorial body instill, the wrong people. We protest, Fifa suspend. and above occurs.

In war, there is not necessarily prisoners, when there are very few witnesses. Just graves. Then there is the fact that we have spies, traitors and turncoats in our ranks. What is point of winning the battle to lose the War. No, I think we should avoid War as long as we can, so if and when it does come we are prepared to win, regardless of the earlier battles. We first have to be a majority on the same page, have the same goals and commitment. Lest we lose every battle due to a knife in the back.

add: I understand most ppl points, but we are already hard done by. I am just wary of cutting off our noses to spite our faces. We can't just look at how it affects us as fans, but how it affects our country and our people, especially our youth. I know I can survive without Fifa, but do we have the ppl who can function without that dream at present ? not sure. My mind is still open to strategies doh.

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There should be / need to be further investigation into Djw and Fifa officials as it relates to the home football project !

Absolutely. And,  the Government  of Trinidad & Tobago should be at the forefront of pursuing its own inquiry.
Especially considering their (tax-payers) contributions.

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I think I follow your point, however, As Ramdhan at present is the person responsible for most of the communication between Fifa and the new TTFA. i.e. The primary witness to the reported transgressions of the chief FIFA official for the region as well as the reporting of those of the previous admin. We don't want him to resign and pull out at this point.
I get the impression that the majority although certain that Fifa was incorrect in their decision/actions, we do not need to go to WAR with Fifa to prove their actions wrong. War leaves casualties whereby many lower in the totem pole and lowest in rank, discouraged, disabled or dead on both sides, while the top guys celebrate success or surrender. We can appease FIFA by displaying we are not at war with them, even if we disagree with their action.
If we seem to be fighting amongst ourselves even as we try to argue why we should be left in charge, then we already lost our argument before we make our appeal to have this decision revised. More reason for Fifa to display why their decision is in fact correct. As someone says certain things have to be decided and worked out behind closed doors, and if 3 FOR and 2 against, we have to present we are in agreement FOR. Otherwise, yes a Normailsation Comittee will be necessary. No ?

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Mr Look Loy needs to chill if his PRESIDENT is cool. He not and didn’t want to be in charge. Not everyone agrees with one’s view, so get closer to them to try and see theirs.

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The word is "normalise". Not paradise.

It's curious that there is a view that a NC will vest us with manna from heaven. That's a twisted narrative for several reasons. Of course,  the genius of normalisation would explain why Pakistan is on its third NC.  ::)

Normalisation won't ever trump root and branch transformation, but we can be deluded into believing that the objective here is root and branch transformation. It isn't.

Manna with Kool Aid? Not hungry.
:thumbsup:

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Football / Re: Home of Football Thread
« on: April 02, 2020, 10:47:29 AM »

“Had Wallace or even John-Williams taken the chance to use the facility, it would have cost the TTFA a lot of money, and thereby doing the opposite of what it was constructed for. There are huge overheads to be covered first before you can think of making a profit. For my hotel alone it costs $100,000 in overheads and at the Home of Football, it is significantly higher,” Ramsingh said.



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Common sense

each body overseer the hotel. And all associations share the expenses, cause left to football alone, we’ll we know how that goes.. el

maxg, while you making sense, I see this hotel as DJW plaything. Another center of "excellence" scenario.
Many people like expensive playthings, very few can manage them to a profit or well. Can he keep the hotel operationally successful, can he put ppl in the rooms at their expense and not ours ? As i said swimming is going to cover 1 month. Having a nice hotel to hold our National football camps is great, but how is it going to make money to cover those National camps. This is not a Ma & PA bb we talking about, it's a thing that will require year round staffing and operations. 80% of Operations and occupancy may have nothing to do with football . Staff can't be hired by month or event...the only way this will be viable for our National programs, is if the Hotel can operate at a profit, regardless of how nice it look or wonderful location to stadia.

ps: MzTing graduating in Tourism and Hotel Management, but given how ppl does get pay, i not recommending her at all. ;)                           

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why do they need between 300 & 500 K ? The lawyers really charging that minimum ? besides that being a wide gap ! This isn't no big court case where knowledge of international law is required, just international common sense. Even Wallace and Ramdhan can represent. Case won't be called until travel restrictions are relaxed anyway. Flight & Hotel meals 1 week, max $3000 cad/person. Retention/loss of work/stipend : $2000 cad/person = , Court clothes : 1000 cad/person. ~60 K TT total.
" modest fees" can't be 240 K TT- 50 k cad ? so is that lawyer fee.
Shouldn't drink champagne when yuh only have beer money. It's quite possible I don't know the ins and outs, willing to learn.
https://www.tas-cas.org/en/general-information/frequently-asked-questions.html

How much does the arbitration cost ?
The ordinary procedure involves paying the relatively modest costs and fees of the arbitrators, calculated on the basis of a fixed scale of charges, plus a share of the costs of the CAS.

The disciplinary cases of an international nature ruled in appeal are free, except for an initial Court Office fee of CHF 1000.-.

Can one be represented during the proceedings ?
The parties may appear alone. They may also be represented or assisted at CAS hearings by a person of their choice, not necessarily a lawyer.
What is CAS mediation ?
Mediation is a non-binding and informal procedure, based on a mediation agreement in which each party undertakes to attempt in good faith to negotiate with the other party, and with the assistance of a CAS mediator, with a view to settling a sports-related dispute.­

What about Ambassadors Shaka and Dwight, they already decline ?

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Football / Re: Home of Football Thread
« on: April 01, 2020, 05:27:31 AM »
I think we are already suspended and that’s what we are appealing.

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My point is, so what if we can’t play WC for the next 10 or so years. If Fifa go so low , when our case is won, as to dismiss us as a member, it would only give us a chance to work on our development and continue to play regional tournaments. Better for both growth. We won’t be going a WC soon in the world state nor our own state, for quite sometime . Martinique (as reference of non-WC participants is all) does very well with what they have and do. How much stadia they have again ? France supports them, but they don’t spoil them. They work they tail off to be even get a sniff of travel. When we are ready and able to test ourselves against CFU and the odd Concacaf exhibition, with consistently positive results, on and OFF the field. Only then, if ppl want they can go beg Fifa to give us permission to show off, and let a few of us play with Villa and ManU.
Joke: doh ask meh how Villa and ManU come in this, eh Deeks . ;D ;D
Btw, How yuh making out with the virus? I imagine y’all on extra care and lock down. Hope everyone is fine. Only one of my club members in ICU so far, but not critical.

I hunkered down inside. Working from home, until the "wise man" in the WH says he ready. But it appears it is going to be longer. But be safe Belmont Royalian!!!
:thumbsup:

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https://www.tas-cas.org/en/general-information/frequently-asked-questions.html

How much does the arbitration cost ?
The ordinary procedure involves paying the relatively modest costs and fees of the arbitrators, calculated on the basis of a fixed scale of charges, plus a share of the costs of the CAS.

The disciplinary cases of an international nature ruled in appeal are free, except for an initial Court Office fee of CHF 1000.-.

Can one be represented during the proceedings ?
The parties may appear alone. They may also be represented or assisted at CAS hearings by a person of their choice, not necessarily a lawyer.
What is CAS mediation ?
Mediation is a non-binding and informal procedure, based on a mediation agreement in which each party undertakes to attempt in good faith to negotiate with the other party, and with the assistance of a CAS mediator, with a view to settling a sports-related dispute.­

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My point is, so what if we can’t play WC for the next 10 or so years. If Fifa go so low , when our case is won, as to dismiss us as a member, it would only give us a chance to work on our development and continue to play regional tournaments. Better for both growth. We won’t be going a WC soon in the world state nor our own state, for quite sometime . Martinique (as reference of non-WC participants is all) does very well with what they have and do. How much stadia they have again ? France supports them, but they don’t spoil them. They work they tail off to be even get a sniff of travel. When we are ready and able to test ourselves against CFU and the odd Concacaf exhibition, with consistently positive results, on and OFF the field. Only then, if ppl want they can go beg Fifa to give us permission to show off, and let a few of us play with Villa and ManU.
Joke: doh ask meh how Villa and ManU come in this, eh Deeks . ;D ;D
Btw, How yuh making out with the virus? I imagine y’all on extra care and lock down. Hope everyone is fine. Only one of my club members in ICU so far, but not critical.

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Mr Wallace, TT Football is already affected, afflicted and/or infected, regardless of your decision. Even if FIFA themselves pay off the 50 M debt, and put the football back in one of their puppets hands, what from past history and puppeteers modus operandi (inclusive of puppet masters, Veron et al) tell you where our football will be. No sir, you would not have any more negative effect on our football than what there is already. Unless your lawyers themselves run up a further significant bill that add to the debt -  your only contribution to the debt. New FIFA corruption, any corruption, is your duty to expose to the best of your ability as others have recently done. Otherwise if you are aware of a crime and choose to do nothing aren't you complicit. Does our football absolutely need FIFA to develop within the next decade ? Does FIFA need us ? Martinique has strong support of France, but their players do quite well outside of FIFA, Yet still a member of CFU and CONCACAF. 
True, you guys are the ones facing the music, but if y'all leave, will football continue to dance to the new old music. We weren't dancing before. Best Wishes, and God Help in your decisions.

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Football / Re: TTFA News Thread.
« on: March 28, 2020, 09:00:26 PM »
I really don't get this New Project. Why not work with, finish, complete what y'all have, with whatever finance that can be raised. We go just go out and build another structure. We don't have enough structures just sitting doing nothing. Especially at this time when there is nothing, and I mean nothing.    :frustrated: ???

Is a make wuk to move funds or what.  Lawd..This is another Tarouba elephant or Arima Tigers fiasco.

We playing Sim City, click ah mouse and poof, building going up.   :bs:
This is nonsensical to be talking about now, given the current world and FIFA situation.

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Three more balls left in this over. 
If they gor out, I hope dey out voopin

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Hadad heads TTFA Normalisation Committee.
T&T Guardian Reports.


FIFA has appointed businessman Robert Hadad to head a three-member Normalisation Committee to oversee the revitalisation of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association, following its decision to take over the reorganisation of the local body from William Wallace and his executive recently.

Apart from Hadad, the committee includes Judy Daniel (Deputy Chairperson) and Nigel Romano (member).

A release from FIFA on Friday confirmed the appointments, adding that FIFA, in consultation with regional governing body CONCACAF, will make two more appointments to the team soon.

FIFA said the committee will have as its mandate the following:

Run the TTFA'S daily affairs

Establish a debt repayment plan that is implementable by the TTFA

Review and amend the TTFA statutes (and other regulations where necessary) and to ensure their compliance with the FIFA statutes and requirements before duly submitting them for approval to the TTFA Congress

Organise and conduct elections of a new TTFA Executive Committee for a four-year mandate.

FIFA added that the committee members will still have to pass an eligibility check and their confirmation to the positions will be contingent upon the outcome of those checks.

It said the normalisation committee will act as an electoral committee and none of its members will be eligible for any of the open positions once fresh TTFA elections are called.

The committee has 24 months in which to achieve its mandate and will cease to function once this has been achieved.

Wallace and his executive were voted into office late last year but soon fell into financial difficulty after its accounts were frozen as one of its former coaches, Kendall Walkes, sued to recover salaries owed to him. This prompted FIFA to step in recently, disband the executive and start a restructuring process.

RELATED NEWS

Hadad leads TTFA normalisation committee
Stephon Nicholas (Newsday).


Businessman Robert Hadad has been appointed chairperson of the FIFA normalisation committee that will take over control of local football. FIFA also appointed Judy Daniel (deputy chairperson) and Nigel L Romano (member) to the committee. FIFA made the announcement via e-mail on Friday and said it will appoint two more members in the coming days.

The FIFA press release said the mandate of the normalisation committee includes: to run the TTFA's daily affairs; to establish a debt repayment plan that is implementable by the TTFA; to review and amend the TTFA statutes (and other regulations where necessary) and to ensure their compliance with the FIFA statutes and requirements before duly submitting them for approval to the TTFA Congress; to organise and to conduct elections of a new TTFA Executive Committee for a four-year mandate.

The normalisation committee has 24 months maximum to fulfil its duties. No member of the normalisation committee will be permitted to vie for a post in the next TTFA elections.


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Nov 2019 to Now. In 4 mths the newly Elected cause all this damage?  Fifa couldn't see the damage before, even when it was pointed out to them. The man show them a nice gift wrapped cardboard box and he Boss call it the Center of the world of football. TT, with we litlle struggling football economy. We must really be chupidee. The government couldn't inspect, audit or get involved in anyway, but yet they gave, and still man bringing them up on charges. Do let dem FIFA conquistadors tie up yuh brain. The new bauble is seeing yuhself in the Media, and that's when yuh know yuh achieve and reach ? Really ? If that's the case, it means many don't even realize what's the true beauty of what our strengths and Culture was.

https://pixel.facebook.com/OPMTT/videos/vb.154758538210003/562609554550193/?type=2&theater

An attempt is being made to control us, and we arguing if we should give in. Rowley talked of management and mismanagement, maybe he already knew, but couldn't get involved, maybe he went on history, he couldn't see the future at that time. So how the controllers didn't see that history then. Of course they did, they helped make it. Now all of a sudden 4 mths later is an issue. If they don't do the right thing by us, let them rock so.

Meanwhile we TT (government and ppl) currently in Dire Straits, we done give them we money and we land, and them want to come and normalize that  -  ;D  Just reminded me of ' Money for Nothing; song

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No way I as a citizen of TT will endorse throwing AWAY that can of money behind football at any time. And health care, job rate, crime/police/prison and a whole lot of ppl and issues require funding and in a mess. At all. The world we live in might be round but don’t mean we must kick ppl around for football. How many ppl on Ntl teams affected, Fifa could hall they European based mc. They can’t stop us from playing football no how, no where. The TTFA and Ntl football can be helped, yet there is greater more critical injuries that require attention. That will be so for awhile, a generation, maybe more.
So if that is a criteria to measure corruption. Your measurements gon be way off for awhile. Best yuh dun with football and devote the rest of yuh life to making music for BTB. Definitely more successes there and more good for yuh ppl too .

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Football / Re: The David Nakhid Thread
« on: March 24, 2020, 12:50:33 AM »
and in my opinion dr willie did more than most, and if nothing else, just the pt. lisas industrial estate alone should have put this man as the greatest visionary that the caribbean has ever seen.

I know we don't agree on everything. But your statement is true. But I have also questioned some Williams reaction to things that have happened during his time in office. Lots of scandals. Always a commission of inquiry, and nothing else is done. Nobody punished or held accountable. So now when another power gets in power, the same thing happens and the situation slides. That is why Jack Warner will never be brought to court in TT or the US. If Eric had really enforced the corruption laws in the early days, we would not have in this present situation.
Sounds like the blame Obama soundbite  ;)

maxg, explain. what is the soundbite, mine or his? And why you say so?
We had 7 ELECTED PMs after Eric (Manning twice) from 3 Parties, voted in by the ppl, covering 39 years . (was the elections fixed? ) How can Eric even be considered as a reason for our present situation is beyond me.  In 39 years, governments elected by the people followed Eric plan to bring us to this state ? I don't think so. The similarity is Trump blaming Obama for everything that a minority opinion didn't like, but even Trump didn't go back 39 years and blame Jimmy Carter. No. Brilliant as Eric was, he had his mistakes, faults even, but no way he can be responsible for the fk-up that our ppl(so-called Africans, Hindu, Muslimeen, Syrian, Lebanese, Chinese, Spanish et al) and following govts put ourselves in currently.(not including Covid19). You must know how the governments wasted resources on themselves and a lesser on a people who themselves had become greedy and decadent, where for many (not all) the only real work and worry was dedicated to Carnival. Further encouraged by many expats(not all) every year, informing them, with the help of many local opportunist who didn't give a shite about the well being of what should have been their fellow countrymen, of all the things they shouldn't be missing out on, available to us in foreign, so much so that they lost site of the paradise that was staring them in their faces. We NEEDED everything we saw on cable, and on top of that nobody can't party like a Trini. Wave yuh flag, yet it cyah be Eric fault. We all play a part in this performance.

add: It can still be corrected/realized, although it requires some drastic growth and positive evolution, a revolution may cause more problems. Maybe Covid will cause a reflective change. it most certainly is causing one here.

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Football / Re: Field of Dreams Thread
« on: March 23, 2020, 01:14:14 PM »
I guess this was pre-congregating and social distancing. God country .

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Football / Re: The David Nakhid Thread
« on: March 23, 2020, 12:10:34 PM »
and in my opinion dr willie did more than most, and if nothing else, just the pt. lisas industrial estate alone should have put this man as the greatest visionary that the caribbean has ever seen.

I know we don't agree on everything. But your statement is true. But I have also questioned some Williams reaction to things that have happened during his time in office. Lots of scandals. Always a commission of inquiry, and nothing else is done. Nobody punished or held accountable. So now when another power gets in power, the same thing happens and the situation slides. That is why Jack Warner will never be brought to court in TT or the US. If Eric had really enforced the corruption laws in the early days, we would not have in this present situation.
Sounds like the blame Obama soundbite  ;)

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Football / Re: The David Nakhid Thread
« on: March 22, 2020, 05:42:03 PM »
Some of us heard the start of such rhetoric in 1970, deserted by the ppl who they thought they were trying to help. Abu thought it what the ppl wanted. Again he was wrong. Now again you come talking revolution, don’t be fooling yourself my youth.

There are other alternatives, I feel Nakid is aware. He has seen the failure of at least 2 methods.

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Football / Re: TTFA News Thread.
« on: March 21, 2020, 11:46:26 PM »
I don't know how this man can take anybody to court for HIS money.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/feb/16/ttff-jack-warner-haiti-funds

Then again Abu did it. Why not Ali Babba.

Maybe everybody in prison should sue the state for not helping dey parents raise dem proper. 

Oh well.I ain't no Judge.

add: as for that Walkes contract. I have suspicions there. He knows the going rate for Football TD's. I believe around CAD 75-85 K/year + benefits based on experience in our region . I might be wrong. Correction required.

"In her decision, Charles held that Walkes was entitled to US$65,000 for several months of the contract, from March 2015, when it was signed, to April 2016.

She also said he was owed US$250,000 for April 2016 to March 2018, when the contract would have ended and that he had the option to extend the contract for another three-year term so he was entitled to compensation for it.

His compensation package was US$10,000 a month and a US$3,000 housing allowance.."
I guessing 65k x12=USD 780 k + 250 K +312 k=1,342 k = ~5.4 TT at the time... ??? ???

Is that 125k + 120 k + 36 k = US 281 K/year. If I'm not wrong, that's robbing the blind. I feel my calcs wrong.

Story. I shame to say : I see a pardna take money from a vagrant . I had to buff and carry on and he say is joke. The man come to the car window. He tell the madman, "Gimme a lil something. Hell, i always giving you". The man bow he head and hand over the crumpled up dollars he had in his hand. And he drive off.
Well I cuss so much he stop by a church so I could cool down. REALLY !  On the way back we stop at the light. he give back the money to the man - saying 'yuh see' - and tell me let we hit some beers. I say hold on, and I give the man a blue note. He say wha yuh do that for. I tell him that was the money to pay for beers, i going home. Well,he say how i get so chupid and sensitive, how I doh understand the country. I feel he still vex with me, 10 years later. Bro, I dun forgive yuh, if yuh reading this.
Joke for lil boy is death for crapaud. but christ we not lil boys no more. Maybe I 'Wrong Again'.

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Time to consider who FIFA will propose next.
Kenny Rampersad ?  :devil:

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Excellent idea on paper. The problem has always been ourselves in any venture like this. Especially when financial inequalties and benefits are involved.

Mighty Sparrow:Federation

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Football / Re: Levi Garcia Thread
« on: March 18, 2020, 04:05:37 PM »
The Israelis should know that the country given the name Israel was always Palestine.
?????==> America ;  ?????==> Africa ; ?????==> Trinidad and Tobago.

Anyway, we have we own issues to deal with before we can work out/discuss other ppl issues. This thread is a son of the soil one. Not a foreign Politico-Ethical thread. just saying. ;D

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to organise and to conduct elections of a new TTFA Executive Committee for a four-year mandate.

 ??? ??? ::)

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