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Football / Re: Whitley back home from Portsmouth trial.
« on: January 31, 2006, 03:51:09 PM »
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Football / Re: People dont want Beenhakker to see Hardest
« on: January 21, 2006, 02:40:22 PM »Quote
is TI hardest?
doh laff
I REAL serious, oui!
nah breds....ah must laugh at dah one deh
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Football / Re: PICK YUH TEAM
« on: January 21, 2006, 02:17:49 PM »
Since you say yuh picking dem when deh was in deh prime you hadda be outta your mind not to put Yorke up front
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Football / Re: I have lost Confidence in our Coaching staff
« on: January 21, 2006, 02:07:15 PM »
Stay calm fellas,...I think they know that they aint have everybody yet or rather they aint have de best yet. In dat U23 game today dem Jabloteh youths particularly Marcano was making real mass wid de U23 defence and yet he is U23 and not on de U23 side.
All de coaches was deh, even Corneal , Lincoln and dem was deh! Deh come over from de senior team training.
Maybe Hardest will get he own chance to make mass with dem in a practice match or something and get pick to train...yuh neva know.....Trinifinite yuh sound as if yuh give up already. If Hardest good enough he will get a sweat and Beenie will get a chance tuh see him.
All de coaches was deh, even Corneal , Lincoln and dem was deh! Deh come over from de senior team training.
Maybe Hardest will get he own chance to make mass with dem in a practice match or something and get pick to train...yuh neva know.....Trinifinite yuh sound as if yuh give up already. If Hardest good enough he will get a sweat and Beenie will get a chance tuh see him.
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Football / Re: Oyo! Rougier selected. Beenie you're a genius
« on: January 21, 2006, 02:00:30 PM »
i barely missed the session this morning sorry that i cyan mek this afternoon.
I hope deh call a few more players.
I surprise deh ent call Attiba and Nigel Daniel....
sorry that i cyan mek this afternoon.I hope deh call a few more players.
I surprise deh ent call Attiba and Nigel Daniel....
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Football / Re: I have lost Confidence in our Coaching staff
« on: January 21, 2006, 01:52:15 PM »
Maybe they will get their chance TI,it too early to say whether they excluded, it have more training to come so i hope they get their chance. Maybe this is just the first set and during next week deh will get a call. I think every player capable should get a fair chance and we should wait and see waht happens before we lose confidence in anything deh doing. I think we should give them a chance. I think even though he ent there yet Hardest shud attend and observe de sessions suh when he number get call he guh be ready.
I live nearby so we went up to the Larry Gomes this morning for a short while to look at the training sessions. There were in fact two training sessions the one for the Senior Warriors and one with the National U23 taking on a young Jabloteh side on the outside field.
I reach too late to see anything much of the Warriors apparently dey didnt train for long when i get they deh was already packing up de guard say that it have another training going on on the training field so me and meh pardna pass by de outside field to see a lil bit of the action but then rain come and we left. But when we left de young Jabloteh side was beating de National U23 side by 3 goals to nil but say wah it was just practice. I hope deh have more sessions like dat so we could see what we have on offer. I sorry I cyan mek it tuh de stadium this afternoon but it should be good.
I live nearby so we went up to the Larry Gomes this morning for a short while to look at the training sessions. There were in fact two training sessions the one for the Senior Warriors and one with the National U23 taking on a young Jabloteh side on the outside field.
I reach too late to see anything much of the Warriors apparently dey didnt train for long when i get they deh was already packing up de guard say that it have another training going on on the training field so me and meh pardna pass by de outside field to see a lil bit of the action but then rain come and we left. But when we left de young Jabloteh side was beating de National U23 side by 3 goals to nil but say wah it was just practice. I hope deh have more sessions like dat so we could see what we have on offer. I sorry I cyan mek it tuh de stadium this afternoon but it should be good.
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Football / Re: trinidad should take an ssfl player to the world cup
« on: January 18, 2006, 08:08:34 PM »
I agree with the travel and train but I dont see any coach in deh right mind giving a youth or that age and inexperience a sweat at a World Cup,....though i wish it would .....nah i cyah see dat happening...dat just ent happening
many good SSFL players but none are real standouts like Ronaldo was when he make de world cup.....england would not even dream of taking Theo Walcott....Rooney and Messi would not have made it unless they have professional ( and national) exposure and.... there are some really good youths in the Pro League, Jabloteh have some as young as fifteen and sixteen sweating with the senior team and as young as sixteen seventeen through to twenty dat play for the senior team already,....those are also good prospects as those youths already getting pro team exposure
i more agree wit morvantman, perhaps julius james or one of them might make de trip or some national U23 but not a ssfl player
many good SSFL players but none are real standouts like Ronaldo was when he make de world cup.....england would not even dream of taking Theo Walcott....Rooney and Messi would not have made it unless they have professional ( and national) exposure and.... there are some really good youths in the Pro League, Jabloteh have some as young as fifteen and sixteen sweating with the senior team and as young as sixteen seventeen through to twenty dat play for the senior team already,....those are also good prospects as those youths already getting pro team exposure
i more agree wit morvantman, perhaps julius james or one of them might make de trip or some national U23 but not a ssfl player
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Football / Re: Jahloteh youth screenin
« on: January 15, 2006, 10:09:11 AM »
Well done Jabloteh.Every Pro Club should be doing screenings like this to find the best talent.
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Football / Re: Anthony Wolfe recovering from beating.
« on: January 12, 2006, 08:25:17 PM »
I wonder if this was part of the reward that the Government promised the Warriors?
On a serious note though, this is some real shyte. They should be out catching kidnappers but instead beating people at a protest when they protesting for basic things like water and road when so much oil money around. Beating a man that help unite the country more than any other politician ever has...imagine dat boy. Boynes is sports minister and it happen in he own constituency ah wonder what he doing about it.
On a serious note though, this is some real shyte. They should be out catching kidnappers but instead beating people at a protest when they protesting for basic things like water and road when so much oil money around. Beating a man that help unite the country more than any other politician ever has...imagine dat boy. Boynes is sports minister and it happen in he own constituency ah wonder what he doing about it.
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Football / Re: Aussie Officials see the Colours of Trinidad & Tobago
« on: January 12, 2006, 08:18:17 PM »
Give them anodda dose of licks,......just for trying to test the Warriors
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Football / Re: Amendment To Waggonist Definition :)
« on: January 09, 2006, 09:25:59 PM »
Ah cyan wait tuh see anodda post from DavyJenny .....like he fraid de board
Ah wonder wat is DavyJenny views on this whole 'waggonist' ting
.....like he fraid de board Ah wonder wat is DavyJenny views on this whole 'waggonist' ting
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Football / Re: Amendment To Waggonist Definition :)
« on: January 09, 2006, 09:14:17 PM »
C'mon Kicker.....is suh yuh trying to kick meh? 
Lets look at your links and sort this our once and for all. De first link yuh put up refers to judicial motions for litigation, AWATT is a discplinary body not a court so that one is irrelevant....
and de second link yuh provide specifically states that when you introduce the motion you 'move' a motion. I quote from your links below....
When you make a motion in a meeting, say simply “I move,” as in “I move to adjourn”; and ....Instead of “I want to make a motion . . .” it’s simpler and more direct to say “I want to move. . . .”
Ah still think yuh should get dat ticket Kicker!
Lets look at your links and sort this our once and for all
. De first link yuh put up refers to judicial motions for litigation, AWATT is a discplinary body not a court so that one is irrelevant....and de second link yuh provide specifically states that when you introduce the motion you 'move' a motion. I quote from your links below....
When you make a motion in a meeting, say simply “I move,” as in “I move to adjourn”; and ....Instead of “I want to make a motion . . .” it’s simpler and more direct to say “I want to move. . . .”
Ah still think yuh should get dat ticket Kicker!
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Football / Re: Amendment To Waggonist Definition :)
« on: January 09, 2006, 08:55:22 PM »
Kicker I feel you should just get a ticket for trying to mash up AWATT wid yuh english tongue...yh ent know that sometime it dont need to mek correct english sense to make sense .... OK ah take dat one back before yuh 'kick' meh! 
Oh and by de way ( ah dont intend to em-ba-rass yuh eh) but nobody can 'make a motion' as you say....yuh have to 'move' a motion....
Enough engilsh lessons fuh tonight,.....I need a laugh before I get some sleep....ohh I going and search fuh DavyJenny post from last year about Warner making 'sober' statements just thinking about it mek meh laugh already
OK ah take dat one back before yuh 'kick' meh! Oh and by de way ( ah dont intend to em-ba-rass yuh eh) but nobody can 'make a motion' as you say....yuh have to 'move' a motion....
Enough engilsh lessons fuh tonight,.....I need a laugh before I get some sleep....ohh I going and search fuh DavyJenny post from last year about Warner making 'sober' statements
just thinking about it mek meh laugh already
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Football / Re: anybody watching tottenham vs. leicester city? FSC
« on: January 08, 2006, 02:41:21 PM »
Leicester won 3-2 on a goal by Mark de Vries in the 89th minute! This is a man who hasnt scored in 13 previous games but was working hard all game to score.
The comback was complete and embarassing for Tottenham. Another prem team shot down by an underdog!
The comback was complete and embarassing for Tottenham. Another prem team shot down by an underdog!
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Football / Re: Forum Names: Allyuh try and come original nah?
« on: January 07, 2006, 08:54:17 AM »
Thankfully only one 'Solo'....after all dat is what Solo means ,....one alone
Anyway
I wonder which one we cud consider the funniest name....
Anyway
I wonder which one we cud consider the funniest name....
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Football / Re: Henry says he is staying at Arsenal!!!!!
« on: January 07, 2006, 08:19:42 AM »
Henry's furstration is understandable. I think he would be perfect for Barca. Running with Ronaldinho would be a dream come true for a man of his talent. That Barca left side would be too magical to be true.
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Football / Re: Warner to accept Government help after all
« on: January 04, 2006, 10:30:41 PM »
Wow,....dis man does 'swing' more than monkey!
Money ent....or rather the 'Love of money'...is a helluva ting
Money ent....or rather the 'Love of money'...is a helluva ting
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Football / Re: Hughes questions merit of Yorke
« on: January 04, 2006, 10:17:45 PM »
Filho alyuh good yes!
Yorke could run end to end for 90+ minutes, captain de team, hold the ball up, distribute, fight, close down space, keep midfield pressure, defend, take shots even score, be de best player on the pitch......and men like you and Marcos still ent giving de man he props!
right now Yorke engine running better than many good midfielders currently playing at his level and he was a striker converted to midfield. Who alyuh expect him to play like - Ronaldinho?
By 'decent side' yuh mean Sydney/Falkirk or yuh mean Barcelona/Milan/Chelsea?
Yorke could run end to end for 90+ minutes, captain de team, hold the ball up, distribute, fight, close down space, keep midfield pressure, defend, take shots even score, be de best player on the pitch......and men like you and Marcos still ent giving de man he props!
right now Yorke engine running better than many good midfielders currently playing at his level and he was a striker converted to midfield. Who alyuh expect him to play like - Ronaldinho?
By 'decent side' yuh mean Sydney/Falkirk or yuh mean Barcelona/Milan/Chelsea?
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Football / Re: Hughes questions merit of Yorke
« on: January 04, 2006, 07:37:51 PM »Quote
Horse i watch dat game from beginning to end and it hurt me to watch it
I watched the first match they lost to Saprissa and Yorke was by far the best player on both teams. He was not only the hardest working but also the only man playing with any real balls.
I did not see the whole of the next match but I saw the highlights and he scored the first goal heading in a free kick.
Marcos yuh either being very unfair to the skipper or we just have to agree to disagree.
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Football / Re: A message to Nigel Myers.
« on: January 04, 2006, 07:28:32 PM »
I just watching how both ah dem smiling suh big and bright good kicks yeah! Is not every day men get to get some kicks off Tallman.
Just curious though...was this picture taken before of after de match?
good kicks yeah! Is not every day men get to get some kicks off Tallman.Just curious though...was this picture taken before of after de match?
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Football / Re: Petrotrin to take 2006 Super League, says Corneal
« on: January 02, 2006, 04:34:18 PM »
I was thinking the same thing. It makes no sense to win the Pro League Big Six then go and fight with Joe Public, Wasa, Rangers, Crab Connection etc for the 'Super League' title when you have the money to play pro football.
I think maybe Corneal got it wrong or the reporter got it wrong. I really doubt Rougier would play Super League football anyway. That must be some big typo.
I think maybe Corneal got it wrong or the reporter got it wrong. I really doubt Rougier would play Super League football anyway. That must be some big typo.
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Football / Re: Aurtis Whitley vs Wayne Rooney
« on: January 02, 2006, 04:30:48 PM »
Dont take it so Saga, just like any coach would tell you you have to discuss and evaluate the opposition strengths and weaknesses. It is fair to discuss the good things anyone said about an opposition player but also fair to discuss how to netralize him. I said and continue to say so many good things about Whitley and dem all year even before we make de WC.
Another point is that our players are all professional and most play in Europe, there is nothing that we can discuss on this site that they dont see every day on TV and newspapers about the English opposition. They live with it. They play it. They already know how to handle this. I doubt whether any player would come on this site, read this discussion and because of some negative effect they get scared of Rooney, or Lampard or Terry. You really believe so?
Another point is that our players are all professional and most play in Europe, there is nothing that we can discuss on this site that they dont see every day on TV and newspapers about the English opposition. They live with it. They play it. They already know how to handle this. I doubt whether any player would come on this site, read this discussion and because of some negative effect they get scared of Rooney, or Lampard or Terry. You really believe so?
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Football / Portsmouth on verge of takeover - Redknapp safe
« on: January 02, 2006, 09:10:45 AM »
This means that they afford to buy Aurtis!
Portsmouth confirm takeover plans
Mandaric plans to spend more time with his family
Businessman Alexandre Gaydamak - son of a Russian billionaire - is to become joint owner of Portsmouth after coming to a deal with chairman Milan Mandaric.
The struggling Premiership club said in a statement French national Gaydamak, 30, whose father is Arcadi Gaydamak, would be an equal partner in the club.
Financier Arcadi Gaydamak already owns Israeli club Beitar Jerusalem.
Pompey stressed the future boardroom change would have no effect on manager Harry Redknapp's position.
"Contrary to press reports there is no question of Harry Redknapp's position as manager of the club being under threat," said the statement.
"He will have the full backing of Mr Alexandre Gaydamak and will continue to enjoy the full support of Milan Mandaric."
The Pompey statement gave no financial details regarding the new partnership.
"The pair of them will work together closely to further develop all aspects of Portsmouth Football Club, Pompey stadium, Pompey village as well as a modern training facility," said the statement.
Despite owning Beitar, Alexandre's father Arcadi has lived in Moscow since 2002.
The Beitar owner is involved in various industrial enterprises in Russia and owns a medium-sized bank and brokerage company.
In 2002 Paris magistrates issued an arrest warrant for him for questioning over an alleged arms-for-oil deal with Angola in the early 1990s.
Arcadi Gaydamak insisted his involvement in the deal was as part of a legitimate agreement between the governments of Russia and Angola.
Jean-Christophe Mitterand, the son of former French president Francois Mitterand, was given a 30-month suspended sentence for his involvement in the affair.
Portsmouth confirm takeover plans
Mandaric plans to spend more time with his family
Businessman Alexandre Gaydamak - son of a Russian billionaire - is to become joint owner of Portsmouth after coming to a deal with chairman Milan Mandaric.
The struggling Premiership club said in a statement French national Gaydamak, 30, whose father is Arcadi Gaydamak, would be an equal partner in the club.
Financier Arcadi Gaydamak already owns Israeli club Beitar Jerusalem.
Pompey stressed the future boardroom change would have no effect on manager Harry Redknapp's position.
"Contrary to press reports there is no question of Harry Redknapp's position as manager of the club being under threat," said the statement.
"He will have the full backing of Mr Alexandre Gaydamak and will continue to enjoy the full support of Milan Mandaric."
The Pompey statement gave no financial details regarding the new partnership.
"The pair of them will work together closely to further develop all aspects of Portsmouth Football Club, Pompey stadium, Pompey village as well as a modern training facility," said the statement.
Despite owning Beitar, Alexandre's father Arcadi has lived in Moscow since 2002.
The Beitar owner is involved in various industrial enterprises in Russia and owns a medium-sized bank and brokerage company.
In 2002 Paris magistrates issued an arrest warrant for him for questioning over an alleged arms-for-oil deal with Angola in the early 1990s.
Arcadi Gaydamak insisted his involvement in the deal was as part of a legitimate agreement between the governments of Russia and Angola.
Jean-Christophe Mitterand, the son of former French president Francois Mitterand, was given a 30-month suspended sentence for his involvement in the affair.
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Football / Re: Aurtis Whitley vs Wayne Rooney
« on: January 02, 2006, 08:09:50 AM »
I fail to see the point about Rooney being overrated! See below. Underrate him at your own peril.
Exquisite Rooney gives hope to United and England
Daniel Taylor at Old Trafford
Monday January 2, 2006
The Guardian
"Goodbye and good riddance to Manchester United's annus horribilis." So says the front cover of the latest United We Stand fanzine, a publication that displays about as much seasonal goodwill to Sir Alex Ferguson as a snowball in the face. Ferguson will be glad to see the back of December, never mind 2005, although it would be wrong to say nothing has gone right when Wayne Rooney's family must be running out of scrapbooks to contain all the cuttings.
It is difficult for United's supporters to be too melancholic when in their midst lurks a player who by rights should have been sitting beside Ronaldinho at Fifa's global awards night, a footballer opposition fans taunt as fat but who in full flight looks as though he would not make footprints in snow.
Rooney, perhaps, is the single reason why the fans on Sir Matt Busby Way can regard 2006 with a modicum of optimism. He makes robust centre-halves look flimsy. He does things on a football field that cannot even be found on a computer game.
On New Year's Eve it was the turn of Bruno N'Gotty and Tal Ben Haim to feel the force. Ben Haim, an old foe, was substituted at half-time. N'Gotty traipsed off the pitch at the final whistle with the expression of a vegetarian walking out of TGI Fridays.
Sam Allardyce, the Bolton manager, shook his head as he floated the possibility that he might never have seen such a more capable demonstration of the centre-forward's trade. Rooney had bewitched United's opponents with a performance brimming with pace, strength, anticipation, guile and craft. Everything, in fact, apart from a goal. "He terrified us," Allardyce reflected. "I think I've just seen one of the most outstanding young players I've ever seen."
Bolton are no Barcelona but there was still something exhilarating about the way Rooney elevated himself to a different level. "It bodes well for England in 2006," said Allardyce. "He not only frightened us with his skill but his work-rate and his physical attributes. He was brushing off our players and some of his touches were just magnificent. You can plan all you want but when a player of his ability is in that sort of mood what can you do?"
Rooney has become so influential that opposition managers have started giving serious consideration to deploying a man-marker to stick to him like a tick. Bryan Robson of West Bromwich Albion was the first to use such a method only for Rooney to conjure up a 3-0 victory once his designated shadow, Paul Robinson, had left the field with concussion.
"We contemplated it too," said Allardyce. "But the truth is we didn't think we had a player capable of doing it. The concentration needed to man-mark a player of Rooney's talent for 90 minutes would be absolutely mega. We would effectively be asking someone not to get involved in the game when we were in possession and there isn't a player in our camp with the self-discipline and concentration for that sort of job."
One suspects there will be a distinct lack of raised arms should other managers ask for volunteers. Bolton's defenders were so flustered they began to make uncharacteristically simple errors. N'Gotty deflected Kieran Richardson's cross into his own net when it should have been a routine clearance. Gary Speed equalised with Bolton's first effort on goal but Ben Haim promptly sold Jussi Jaaskelainen short with a back-header and Louis Saha re-established United's lead. From that moment Old Trafford sat back and basked in the Rooney Show, supplemented by Cristiano Ronaldo's most productive match for longer than he would care to remember.
There was a kaleidoscope of moments to choose from but none more exquisite than the way Rooney bulldozed a route into the penalty area to set up Ronaldo's first goal. After the strength came the subtlety. Which other player in English football would have had the awareness and ability to flick the ball to the far post, using the outside of his right boot, when there was an orthodox left-foot shot on? Some observers were so dumbfounded they initially presumed he must have miscued his shot. It turned out to be the pass of a genius.
Ronaldo added a final flourish as the game went into stoppage time, drifting inside N'Gotty to score with a left-foot drive, but long before then Rooney had established a sense of harmony inside Old Trafford that has not always been there this season.
Flick through any United fanzine or log on to any chat-room and the criticism of Ferguson is unrelenting. It is difficult, indeed, to find anyone who is willing to advocate that he should stay beyond the end of the season. Yet the crowd serenaded him here with a chorus of Happy Birthday followed by "Sixty-four? You're having a laugh".
Convincingly beating Bolton does not mean United have eradicated the shortcomings that were so obvious during the wretched string of performances that passed as their European campaign. It does not make up for the fact that their season has, in all probability, descended into a contest with Liverpool for second place and automatic qualification for the Champions League. And it will not have United We Stand's editorial team fretting that they have gone over the top with their latest edition. Yet Ferguson, like Sven-Goran Eriksson, is blessed with a player whose very presence offers hope. If 2006 is another annus horribilis, it will not be Rooney grazing in the scapegoats' paddock.
See below. Underrate him at your own peril.Exquisite Rooney gives hope to United and England
Daniel Taylor at Old Trafford
Monday January 2, 2006
The Guardian
"Goodbye and good riddance to Manchester United's annus horribilis." So says the front cover of the latest United We Stand fanzine, a publication that displays about as much seasonal goodwill to Sir Alex Ferguson as a snowball in the face. Ferguson will be glad to see the back of December, never mind 2005, although it would be wrong to say nothing has gone right when Wayne Rooney's family must be running out of scrapbooks to contain all the cuttings.
It is difficult for United's supporters to be too melancholic when in their midst lurks a player who by rights should have been sitting beside Ronaldinho at Fifa's global awards night, a footballer opposition fans taunt as fat but who in full flight looks as though he would not make footprints in snow.
Rooney, perhaps, is the single reason why the fans on Sir Matt Busby Way can regard 2006 with a modicum of optimism. He makes robust centre-halves look flimsy. He does things on a football field that cannot even be found on a computer game.
On New Year's Eve it was the turn of Bruno N'Gotty and Tal Ben Haim to feel the force. Ben Haim, an old foe, was substituted at half-time. N'Gotty traipsed off the pitch at the final whistle with the expression of a vegetarian walking out of TGI Fridays.
Sam Allardyce, the Bolton manager, shook his head as he floated the possibility that he might never have seen such a more capable demonstration of the centre-forward's trade. Rooney had bewitched United's opponents with a performance brimming with pace, strength, anticipation, guile and craft. Everything, in fact, apart from a goal. "He terrified us," Allardyce reflected. "I think I've just seen one of the most outstanding young players I've ever seen."
Bolton are no Barcelona but there was still something exhilarating about the way Rooney elevated himself to a different level. "It bodes well for England in 2006," said Allardyce. "He not only frightened us with his skill but his work-rate and his physical attributes. He was brushing off our players and some of his touches were just magnificent. You can plan all you want but when a player of his ability is in that sort of mood what can you do?"
Rooney has become so influential that opposition managers have started giving serious consideration to deploying a man-marker to stick to him like a tick. Bryan Robson of West Bromwich Albion was the first to use such a method only for Rooney to conjure up a 3-0 victory once his designated shadow, Paul Robinson, had left the field with concussion.
"We contemplated it too," said Allardyce. "But the truth is we didn't think we had a player capable of doing it. The concentration needed to man-mark a player of Rooney's talent for 90 minutes would be absolutely mega. We would effectively be asking someone not to get involved in the game when we were in possession and there isn't a player in our camp with the self-discipline and concentration for that sort of job."
One suspects there will be a distinct lack of raised arms should other managers ask for volunteers. Bolton's defenders were so flustered they began to make uncharacteristically simple errors. N'Gotty deflected Kieran Richardson's cross into his own net when it should have been a routine clearance. Gary Speed equalised with Bolton's first effort on goal but Ben Haim promptly sold Jussi Jaaskelainen short with a back-header and Louis Saha re-established United's lead. From that moment Old Trafford sat back and basked in the Rooney Show, supplemented by Cristiano Ronaldo's most productive match for longer than he would care to remember.
There was a kaleidoscope of moments to choose from but none more exquisite than the way Rooney bulldozed a route into the penalty area to set up Ronaldo's first goal. After the strength came the subtlety. Which other player in English football would have had the awareness and ability to flick the ball to the far post, using the outside of his right boot, when there was an orthodox left-foot shot on? Some observers were so dumbfounded they initially presumed he must have miscued his shot. It turned out to be the pass of a genius.
Ronaldo added a final flourish as the game went into stoppage time, drifting inside N'Gotty to score with a left-foot drive, but long before then Rooney had established a sense of harmony inside Old Trafford that has not always been there this season.
Flick through any United fanzine or log on to any chat-room and the criticism of Ferguson is unrelenting. It is difficult, indeed, to find anyone who is willing to advocate that he should stay beyond the end of the season. Yet the crowd serenaded him here with a chorus of Happy Birthday followed by "Sixty-four? You're having a laugh".
Convincingly beating Bolton does not mean United have eradicated the shortcomings that were so obvious during the wretched string of performances that passed as their European campaign. It does not make up for the fact that their season has, in all probability, descended into a contest with Liverpool for second place and automatic qualification for the Champions League. And it will not have United We Stand's editorial team fretting that they have gone over the top with their latest edition. Yet Ferguson, like Sven-Goran Eriksson, is blessed with a player whose very presence offers hope. If 2006 is another annus horribilis, it will not be Rooney grazing in the scapegoats' paddock.
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Football / Re: Any predictions on the Arsenal vs Man U game on Tuesday?
« on: January 02, 2006, 08:06:23 AM »
Exquisite Rooney gives hope to United and England
Daniel Taylor at Old Trafford
Monday January 2, 2006
The Guardian
"Goodbye and good riddance to Manchester United's annus horribilis." So says the front cover of the latest United We Stand fanzine, a publication that displays about as much seasonal goodwill to Sir Alex Ferguson as a snowball in the face. Ferguson will be glad to see the back of December, never mind 2005, although it would be wrong to say nothing has gone right when Wayne Rooney's family must be running out of scrapbooks to contain all the cuttings.
It is difficult for United's supporters to be too melancholic when in their midst lurks a player who by rights should have been sitting beside Ronaldinho at Fifa's global awards night, a footballer opposition fans taunt as fat but who in full flight looks as though he would not make footprints in snow.
Rooney, perhaps, is the single reason why the fans on Sir Matt Busby Way can regard 2006 with a modicum of optimism. He makes robust centre-halves look flimsy. He does things on a football field that cannot even be found on a computer game.
On New Year's Eve it was the turn of Bruno N'Gotty and Tal Ben Haim to feel the force. Ben Haim, an old foe, was substituted at half-time. N'Gotty traipsed off the pitch at the final whistle with the expression of a vegetarian walking out of TGI Fridays.
Sam Allardyce, the Bolton manager, shook his head as he floated the possibility that he might never have seen such a more capable demonstration of the centre-forward's trade. Rooney had bewitched United's opponents with a performance brimming with pace, strength, anticipation, guile and craft. Everything, in fact, apart from a goal. "He terrified us," Allardyce reflected. "I think I've just seen one of the most outstanding young players I've ever seen."
Bolton are no Barcelona but there was still something exhilarating about the way Rooney elevated himself to a different level. "It bodes well for England in 2006," said Allardyce. "He not only frightened us with his skill but his work-rate and his physical attributes. He was brushing off our players and some of his touches were just magnificent. You can plan all you want but when a player of his ability is in that sort of mood what can you do?"
Rooney has become so influential that opposition managers have started giving serious consideration to deploying a man-marker to stick to him like a tick. Bryan Robson of West Bromwich Albion was the first to use such a method only for Rooney to conjure up a 3-0 victory once his designated shadow, Paul Robinson, had left the field with concussion.
"We contemplated it too," said Allardyce. "But the truth is we didn't think we had a player capable of doing it. The concentration needed to man-mark a player of Rooney's talent for 90 minutes would be absolutely mega. We would effectively be asking someone not to get involved in the game when we were in possession and there isn't a player in our camp with the self-discipline and concentration for that sort of job."
One suspects there will be a distinct lack of raised arms should other managers ask for volunteers. Bolton's defenders were so flustered they began to make uncharacteristically simple errors. N'Gotty deflected Kieran Richardson's cross into his own net when it should have been a routine clearance. Gary Speed equalised with Bolton's first effort on goal but Ben Haim promptly sold Jussi Jaaskelainen short with a back-header and Louis Saha re-established United's lead. From that moment Old Trafford sat back and basked in the Rooney Show, supplemented by Cristiano Ronaldo's most productive match for longer than he would care to remember.
There was a kaleidoscope of moments to choose from but none more exquisite than the way Rooney bulldozed a route into the penalty area to set up Ronaldo's first goal. After the strength came the subtlety. Which other player in English football would have had the awareness and ability to flick the ball to the far post, using the outside of his right boot, when there was an orthodox left-foot shot on? Some observers were so dumbfounded they initially presumed he must have miscued his shot. It turned out to be the pass of a genius.
Ronaldo added a final flourish as the game went into stoppage time, drifting inside N'Gotty to score with a left-foot drive, but long before then Rooney had established a sense of harmony inside Old Trafford that has not always been there this season.
Flick through any United fanzine or log on to any chat-room and the criticism of Ferguson is unrelenting. It is difficult, indeed, to find anyone who is willing to advocate that he should stay beyond the end of the season. Yet the crowd serenaded him here with a chorus of Happy Birthday followed by "Sixty-four? You're having a laugh".
Convincingly beating Bolton does not mean United have eradicated the shortcomings that were so obvious during the wretched string of performances that passed as their European campaign. It does not make up for the fact that their season has, in all probability, descended into a contest with Liverpool for second place and automatic qualification for the Champions League. And it will not have United We Stand's editorial team fretting that they have gone over the top with their latest edition. Yet Ferguson, like Sven-Goran Eriksson, is blessed with a player whose very presence offers hope. If 2006 is another annus horribilis, it will not be Rooney grazing in the scapegoats' paddock.
Daniel Taylor at Old Trafford
Monday January 2, 2006
The Guardian
"Goodbye and good riddance to Manchester United's annus horribilis." So says the front cover of the latest United We Stand fanzine, a publication that displays about as much seasonal goodwill to Sir Alex Ferguson as a snowball in the face. Ferguson will be glad to see the back of December, never mind 2005, although it would be wrong to say nothing has gone right when Wayne Rooney's family must be running out of scrapbooks to contain all the cuttings.
It is difficult for United's supporters to be too melancholic when in their midst lurks a player who by rights should have been sitting beside Ronaldinho at Fifa's global awards night, a footballer opposition fans taunt as fat but who in full flight looks as though he would not make footprints in snow.
Rooney, perhaps, is the single reason why the fans on Sir Matt Busby Way can regard 2006 with a modicum of optimism. He makes robust centre-halves look flimsy. He does things on a football field that cannot even be found on a computer game.
On New Year's Eve it was the turn of Bruno N'Gotty and Tal Ben Haim to feel the force. Ben Haim, an old foe, was substituted at half-time. N'Gotty traipsed off the pitch at the final whistle with the expression of a vegetarian walking out of TGI Fridays.
Sam Allardyce, the Bolton manager, shook his head as he floated the possibility that he might never have seen such a more capable demonstration of the centre-forward's trade. Rooney had bewitched United's opponents with a performance brimming with pace, strength, anticipation, guile and craft. Everything, in fact, apart from a goal. "He terrified us," Allardyce reflected. "I think I've just seen one of the most outstanding young players I've ever seen."
Bolton are no Barcelona but there was still something exhilarating about the way Rooney elevated himself to a different level. "It bodes well for England in 2006," said Allardyce. "He not only frightened us with his skill but his work-rate and his physical attributes. He was brushing off our players and some of his touches were just magnificent. You can plan all you want but when a player of his ability is in that sort of mood what can you do?"
Rooney has become so influential that opposition managers have started giving serious consideration to deploying a man-marker to stick to him like a tick. Bryan Robson of West Bromwich Albion was the first to use such a method only for Rooney to conjure up a 3-0 victory once his designated shadow, Paul Robinson, had left the field with concussion.
"We contemplated it too," said Allardyce. "But the truth is we didn't think we had a player capable of doing it. The concentration needed to man-mark a player of Rooney's talent for 90 minutes would be absolutely mega. We would effectively be asking someone not to get involved in the game when we were in possession and there isn't a player in our camp with the self-discipline and concentration for that sort of job."
One suspects there will be a distinct lack of raised arms should other managers ask for volunteers. Bolton's defenders were so flustered they began to make uncharacteristically simple errors. N'Gotty deflected Kieran Richardson's cross into his own net when it should have been a routine clearance. Gary Speed equalised with Bolton's first effort on goal but Ben Haim promptly sold Jussi Jaaskelainen short with a back-header and Louis Saha re-established United's lead. From that moment Old Trafford sat back and basked in the Rooney Show, supplemented by Cristiano Ronaldo's most productive match for longer than he would care to remember.
There was a kaleidoscope of moments to choose from but none more exquisite than the way Rooney bulldozed a route into the penalty area to set up Ronaldo's first goal. After the strength came the subtlety. Which other player in English football would have had the awareness and ability to flick the ball to the far post, using the outside of his right boot, when there was an orthodox left-foot shot on? Some observers were so dumbfounded they initially presumed he must have miscued his shot. It turned out to be the pass of a genius.
Ronaldo added a final flourish as the game went into stoppage time, drifting inside N'Gotty to score with a left-foot drive, but long before then Rooney had established a sense of harmony inside Old Trafford that has not always been there this season.
Flick through any United fanzine or log on to any chat-room and the criticism of Ferguson is unrelenting. It is difficult, indeed, to find anyone who is willing to advocate that he should stay beyond the end of the season. Yet the crowd serenaded him here with a chorus of Happy Birthday followed by "Sixty-four? You're having a laugh".
Convincingly beating Bolton does not mean United have eradicated the shortcomings that were so obvious during the wretched string of performances that passed as their European campaign. It does not make up for the fact that their season has, in all probability, descended into a contest with Liverpool for second place and automatic qualification for the Champions League. And it will not have United We Stand's editorial team fretting that they have gone over the top with their latest edition. Yet Ferguson, like Sven-Goran Eriksson, is blessed with a player whose very presence offers hope. If 2006 is another annus horribilis, it will not be Rooney grazing in the scapegoats' paddock.
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Football / Re: Aurtis Whitley vs Wayne Rooney
« on: January 01, 2006, 08:28:59 PM »Quote
Rooney to me is overated, but then again it isnt like he is total mess either.
Rooney...overrrated? I cant agree with you on that at all Trinibourbon. I would agree with Sam about Jones being a bit overrated, a bit too excitable and hence hurries his shots. He could learn a lot from men like Hasselbaink and Jason Roberts about how to use his size and touch better and how to be patient yet deadly in the box with the ball at his feet.
For Rooney. this is his first World Cup we talking about dred. Playing for England turns him into an animal. Did you see him in his first international competition in Euro 2005? The boy was in devastating form then and I expect that he will be a much bigger menace in de WC.
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Football / Re: Any predictions on the Arsenal vs Man U game on Tuesday?
« on: January 01, 2006, 08:17:41 PM »
This is a dog fight even without Viera and Keane.
Henry is coming off a bad game and so is Rooney. This bound to be attacking fireworks cause both of them have thing to prove. If you look at Man U, they have two players ( Van 15 and Rooney 10) that gave them 25 prem goals while Henry alone have 10 for Arsenal. These guys seldom have bad games back to back.
After what Man U did to them earlier in the season I think Arsenal have blood in deh eyes for Man U this rounds.
I think Van Persie will do the damage for Arsenal early on and Henry will tidy up while Rooney will get one in. Cygan is a real liability and he makes Arsenal look bad but I still have Arsenal to win this one 2-1.
Henry is coming off a bad game and so is Rooney. This bound to be attacking fireworks cause both of them have thing to prove. If you look at Man U, they have two players ( Van 15 and Rooney 10) that gave them 25 prem goals while Henry alone have 10 for Arsenal. These guys seldom have bad games back to back.
After what Man U did to them earlier in the season I think Arsenal have blood in deh eyes for Man U this rounds.
I think Van Persie will do the damage for Arsenal early on and Henry will tidy up while Rooney will get one in. Cygan is a real liability and he makes Arsenal look bad but I still have Arsenal to win this one 2-1.
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Football / Re: Aurtis Whitley vs Wayne Rooney
« on: January 01, 2006, 01:30:47 PM »
A couple of points here, just my opinion dred
Regardless of how well he looked, Whitley is at his best when he plays as an attacking midfielder supoorting the forwards by holding up the ball and making incisive final passes plays or taking the shots like he did against Mexico in POS.
What Whitley did in the first match against Bahrain is not the norm for him it was because ( up until he scored) Birchie was not playing his position well and Whitley was playing deep to provide some defensive support in the middle. Whitley is more the finesse attacker than the kick-em-down hard tackling men like Keane.
Against England Whitley will probably see more of Lampard or John Terry etc instead of Rooney if he plays attacking. Nobody from our team will be able to man-mark Rooney in a world cup game to any great effect. We do not have an Essien in the squad so forget it. Rooney is not only too athletic but also capable of taking shots from anywhere. The best thing to do is try to cut off the supply to him than man mark him.
We have a better chance playing a 4-5-1 against England than a more attacking formation and concentrating on one or two players. England has too many proven scorers so you have to frustrate them by keeping the ball, taking away their outside crossing game ( Beckham etc) and keeping the ball on the ground. They will try to play their defence very high so we can use a speedy striker to try some counter-attacks late in the game.We need some divine intervention ( like Ronaldinho's free kick) to score against them. They have temperamental players whose buttons can be pushed - Rooney, Beckham, Ferdinand - and yes pushing other players buttons is part of the game.
Cyd is more likely to be dealing with Joe Cole and Ashley Cole than Rooney, as Rooney is neither played nor does not attack much down the left.
Ah might be wrong but is just my two cents dred.
Regardless of how well he looked, Whitley is at his best when he plays as an attacking midfielder supoorting the forwards by holding up the ball and making incisive final passes plays or taking the shots like he did against Mexico in POS.
What Whitley did in the first match against Bahrain is not the norm for him it was because ( up until he scored) Birchie was not playing his position well and Whitley was playing deep to provide some defensive support in the middle. Whitley is more the finesse attacker than the kick-em-down hard tackling men like Keane.
Against England Whitley will probably see more of Lampard or John Terry etc instead of Rooney if he plays attacking. Nobody from our team will be able to man-mark Rooney in a world cup game to any great effect. We do not have an Essien in the squad so forget it. Rooney is not only too athletic but also capable of taking shots from anywhere. The best thing to do is try to cut off the supply to him than man mark him.
We have a better chance playing a 4-5-1 against England than a more attacking formation and concentrating on one or two players. England has too many proven scorers so you have to frustrate them by keeping the ball, taking away their outside crossing game ( Beckham etc) and keeping the ball on the ground. They will try to play their defence very high so we can use a speedy striker to try some counter-attacks late in the game.We need some divine intervention ( like Ronaldinho's free kick) to score against them. They have temperamental players whose buttons can be pushed - Rooney, Beckham, Ferdinand - and yes pushing other players buttons is part of the game.
Cyd is more likely to be dealing with Joe Cole and Ashley Cole than Rooney, as Rooney is neither played nor does not attack much down the left.
Ah might be wrong but is just my two cents dred.
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Football / Re: Aurtis Whitley gets New Year trial in England.
« on: December 31, 2005, 06:27:47 PM »Quote
By my calculation he has only appeared in approx 25% of de matches over de last 2 years.
HHHHHHHhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmm.......
Great point Tallman. YUh have meh thinking deh. I guess it would be the same for anyone else on this current team who is hoping for a trial. I dont think anyone would have played 75%. But guess its worth the try.Anyway, I guess he could go back to Jabloteh. No harm done.
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Football / Re: Jabloteh youths make mark in SSFL.
« on: December 31, 2005, 10:11:39 AM »Quote
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Quote from: Sam on November 30, 2005, 09:14:35 AM
Big up Jabloteh...
Jah rasta fry egg......
Sam is de best
That statement derserves some kinda award or something.