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Football / Re: Fabio Capello -- fotball coaching genius?
« on: September 12, 2009, 02:23:35 PM »
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England has beaten Croatia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Belarus and Andorra.

Some REAL BIG teams dey boy.... ::)  ::)

If you want to be consistent, you'll have to go ahead and say that Germany are rubbish too since Capello's England also defeated them recently as well...Holland are ranked #3 in the World and England drew with them 2-2 (after being 2-0) down so you might as well include the Dutch into your superb list of crap teams...

England's 4-1 win over Croatia was their FIRST defeat at home in their entire history...Ukraine reached the quarter finals in Germany 2006, losing to the eventual World Champions, Italy. You fail to mention that Ukraine have only been an independent nation since 1991, taking that into account, they've done well to get to where they are in such a short period compared to other former Soviet bloc states who became independent. Croatia and Ukraine are hardly slouches. Croatia finished third in France 98 and are currently ranked ninth in the World and never lost a qualifying match on the way to Germany 2006. They eliminated England in the European championships qualifiers and beating Germany (amongst others) once they got there...

Capello has transformed England from a bumbling catastrophe to a well oiled and efficient unit with the same core of players who failed to qualify for Euro 2008. Capello deserves a lot of credit for his accomplisments in such a short space of time and to to say that the opposition that England have faced since during his tenure are sub-standard is not only wrong but also disrespectful to the massive strides they have made since the European Championships qualifiers...







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Jamaica have actually WON a World Cup match.

Jamaica
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Goals scored: 3

Goals conceeded: 9

Matches won: 1



Trinidad and Tobago
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Goals scored: 0

Goals conceeded: 4

Matches won: 0


Nobody cares who came closest to qualifying, its what you do when you get there, and with that...I'll bow out.

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Football / Re: Cole shrugs off racist abuse
« on: August 27, 2009, 08:28:11 AM »
No place for such base behavior in football, but there is no love between these two teams.  Milwall is West Ham's biggest rival.

Millwall fans will always be racist. All Millwall fans are scum, simple as that, normal people would be embarrased to be associated wid dat club
Them dirt sandwich eating broke pocket brits have the nerve tuh call ppl monkey when it have monkeys in the zoo who livin better than them. i used tuh think them brits were established and had quality until i started hanging out in their circles here in NY.

them ppl poor, uneducated, broke, rude, and have no class for the most part! now don't get me wrong, it have real upstanding brits and i've met quite ah few, but the majority are trifling! :puking:

i suggest they take ah hard look @ themselves and think ah million times before they condescend on anyone including lesser life forms.

Yeah, good one.

Bash an entire country based on the antics of a few thousand Millwall fans.

Why don't you just hold your nose and fart, that way you'll be able to clear your mind.

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Football / Re: Update: J Samuel status
« on: August 09, 2009, 11:59:17 AM »
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so he never had a T&T passport?..or is it cause it didn't get renewed?

I find it disturbing, for someone who bangs on about being born in Trinidad he doesn't have a passport...or if he does, didn't see fit to renew it promptly...


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Football / Re: Manchester United vs Chelsea FA Community Shield 2009
« on: August 09, 2009, 11:11:30 AM »
Charity Shields mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Chelseas first goal came as a result of Foster punching the ball into Carvalho's path and has to go down as a mistake. The second goal came when Evra lay in a heap at the other end of the pitch while the United players were urging Chelsea to put it out of play. Seeing as how the referee and United were forced to stop play a few minutes beforehand when Ballack lay crumpled on the floor after being pushed (and then immediately getting up when he got the decision), I thought United complaints were justified.

Chelsea are pretty formidable using a 4-3-3 system have enjoyed a lot of success with it in the past. If they persist with Ancelotti's diamond formation, I can see them dropping points in the league as theres no width and it gives the opposition full backs (and wingers) the run of the field and basically invites people to get in behind them. Its too narrow. 

Saying that, United did well to pull it back at the end and thats very encouraging for the new season.

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Football / Re: Manchester United or Barcelona? Who's Treble Was Greater?
« on: August 09, 2009, 11:02:40 AM »
Lets start with FF...

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Jackarse... i convince you lacking in reading comprehension... convinced... I actually said the opposite...

Really?

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The Barca treble team and brand is/was better!
But the Man U treble achievement was greater...

Barcelona's team and 'brand' is better but Uniteds treble was greater....but then you go on to say that the article is correct and Barcelona's treble was the better of the two...

And you want to lecture people on comprehension? I think you should dust down your hooked on phonics DVD or separate one of your split personalities.

Then you sit there in your corner and dribble some more about:

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there was more parity in football in those days

Which suggests that football was more competitive then than it is now, which would mean that it would have actually been harder for United to win the treble then than it would be now. Huh?

And now we come to filho...

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Ball being played at an entire different level and pace.

And yet United are STILL winning titles these days...

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Mourinho's Chelsea came in and completely revolutionize the level of play and points you need to win the EPL.

Did he?

Chelsea finished with 95 points in 2004/05 (Mourino's first season in charge)
Chelsea finished with 91 points in 2005/06

Mourinho didn't really revolutionise anything. He broke the points record in 2004/05 by three points and then won the league the following season with the same points total that United achieved in 1999/2000. So finishing the league campaign with 90 points plus is nothing new is it? If thats the case, United broke the goals for record in the Premiership in 1999/2000 (97), can I say they revolutionised the Premiership as well?

United also finished as champions with 92 points in 1993/94...So Chelsea break that record by three points, Mourinho should be hailed as some sort of messiah? United finished the season with points total above 90 on two separate occasions before Mourinho came along...Chelsea merely improved on that figure...by three points.

I'd hardly call that a revolution or a massive shift...

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ManU finished a distant second to Chelsea and still had enough points to have broken the EPL record prior to that.

WRONG.

In Mourinho's first season in charge, United finished third with 77 points. The Premiership points record at that time was 92 (which was held by United). In Mourinho's second season, United finished in second with 83 points, 8 points behind Chelsea (who had incidentally won the league with 91 points, the same total United won the title with in 1999/2000). On each of those occasions, United were nowhere near breaking the Premiership points record...oops.

Toppa:

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You call losing five games in the league NOT being challenged?

Barcelona lost six games in Rijakaards Champions League winning season and still won the league by 12 points.

Barcelona lost five games in Guradiolas Champions League winning season and lost five games and won by a clear nine points.

In 2005-06, Barcelona won the league losing another six games. Where were Real Madrid? 12 points behind in second place.

The rule of thumb in La Liga is that if Real Madrid are unable to challenge, then Barcelona usually finish top with a large  lead. If either are unable to challenge, then someone else wins La Liga (Valencia and Deportivo in the early 00's). Its a league whose outcome is dictated on the type of challenge each of those two sides mount. In fact, in the last 24-25 years only three sides (other than Barcelona and Real Madrid) have managed to win La Liga (Valencia twice, Athletico Madrid once and Deportivo La Coruna once)

You can't afford to lose five games and then win the league with a nine point gap in the Premiership.

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And Real Madrid had clawed back within four points of Barcelona so you take your time with yuh outta timing talk.

Which means nothing in the grand scheme of things since they still managed to finish 9 points behind Barcelona. Its like getting a 'D' in an exam and saying "I failed, but I answered all my questions correctly at one point"...

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Let us not forget how injury ridden Real Madrid's squad was last year and how many starters were side-lined for lengthy periods and a couple crucial others for the entire season.

Are you blaming injuries on the fact that Madrid conceeded a whopping 52 league goals? Five less than Recreativo who finished bottom of the table?















 




















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Football / Re: Manchester United vs Chelsea FA Community Shield 2009
« on: August 09, 2009, 09:02:15 AM »
chelsea are still getting acoustomed to this new formation. some players seem not to be too aware of their role.

Strange since they've employed it before under Mourinho and Grant, only for them to abandon it when they realised that it just doesn't work.

Due to the lack of width, Uniteds full backs are able to bomb forward almost at will.

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Football / Re: Manchester United or Barcelona? Who's Treble Was Greater?
« on: August 07, 2009, 06:00:42 PM »
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they steamrolled ALL OPPOSITION including DESTROYING arch rivals and top club Real Madrid 6-2 ON REAL'S HOME TURF to execute the coup de grace for the La Liga title.

Not really a major achievement when you consider that Real are terribly inept at defending. They lost 10 league games last season. 10. They also conceeded 52 GOALS in La Liga alone...So 6-2 isn't that much of a big deal, imo.

I don't buy into this hyperbole about this new form of 'out of this World' brand of football.  They still managed to lose five games in the league which just backs up what I said before that they were never really challenged. United lost four games during the entire 1998/99 campaign...IN ALL COMPETITIONS. Taking into the account the teams they faced, you can't deny that their Treble has to be regarded as a monumental (and unrivaled) achievement.

Instead, you want to talk about 'football we've never seen before' yadda yadda yadda, a label that was thrown around when Cruyff was in charge there. 'The Dream Team' who played 'unbelievable, dream-like football'. Not as unbelievable as the 4-0 spanking Capellos Milan handed them in the 1994 Champions League final (for those of us who can think back that far).

Barcelona aren't unbeatable, five games lost in La Liga proves that...they're just very, very good.

I'll also go ahead and say that those people who dismiss Uniteds exploits in 1999 as being lucky should remember that Chelsea would have been in the final this year had it not been for some diabolical refereeing. I seem to remember Mr. 'I prefer dominance over luck' dinho moaning and complaining about how the referee won that semi final and how lucky Barcelona were in April...

Tsk. Tsk.

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Along the way Barca decimated French Champions Lyon

Trounced German Champions Bayern Munich

Lyon are a good side, nothing more. You make them out to be some sort of European giant yet they never seem to get past the quarter final stage and play in a very weak domestic league. The Eredivisie is a stronger competition than Lique 1, so I'm assuming that you'll promote AZ Alkmaar to 'giant' status the moment somebody decent beats them? Lyon are so brilliant, that they've NEVER gotten past the quarter final stage and usually lose against the first decent side they come up against.

United eliminated them in the second round in 2008, yet I didn't hear anyone laud it as some fantastic achievement. In all honesty, United were expected to progress from that round...

As for Bayern Munich, they've been on the slide in Europe for a few years now. In fact, they've never gotten past the quarter final stage since 2001. Sounds like you're throwing Bayern into the mix for the sake of it to back up what you are saying. They've been a shadow of what they once were for a long time now. From 1998 to 2001, they were one of the best sides in Europe. Apart from Ribery, who from Bayern could you seriously call world class? In 1999 they had Elber, Effenberg, Basler, Lizarazu, Kahn and Kuffour...a truly fantastic group of players...

Then theres this beauty from FF:

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There was not as much of a divide between the top teams in a given league and the rest. i.e. it was more competitive

So Barcelona's treble should be more highly regarded because European club football was more competitive in 1999?

Oh dear.







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Football / Re: Manchester United or Barcelona? Who's Treble Was Greater?
« on: August 07, 2009, 12:13:34 PM »
The original article is the correct answer!

The Barca treble team and brand is/was better!
But the Man U treble achievement was greater...

plus it had plenty more parity in football dem days.

Show me which part of this post makes sense?

Barcelona's treble was better than United's although United's achievement was greater?

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plus it had plenty more parity in football dem days

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Football / Re: Manchester United or Barcelona? Who's Treble Was Greater?
« on: August 07, 2009, 11:04:01 AM »
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Along the way Barca decimated French Champions Lyon

United also eliminated Lyon in 2008. Whats your point?

Since when did Lyon become a European powerhouse? You're just throwing some names out there to justify a point which is pretty thin at best.

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Trounced German Champions Bayern Munich

Yes, because todays Bayern Munich are pretty much the same team as the one that faced United in '99. They're also the same Bayern side that defeated Barcelona at the Nou Camp 2-1 in the group stages that year as well...

Please.


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Football / Re: Manchester United or Barcelona? Who's Treble Was Greater?
« on: August 07, 2009, 10:59:25 AM »
makes for a nice fairytale story, but do you put the greater importance on luck or dominance?

They led La Liga from the get go because nobody really challenged them. Real Madrid were making a pigs arse of their own campaign and summarily imploding inside their own ego while Barcelona just picked up points and watched as their rivals routinely dropped points elsewhere.

Compare that to Uniteds league campaign in 1998/99. They were pushed all the way by an Arsenal side who were mostly matching United punch for punch up until the last day of the season.

Barcelona defeated United in this years Champions League final, but compare their campaign fixtures with Uniteds in 1999. Now you tell me, do you think this seasons Barcelona side would have won it so easily? Uniteds opponents that year reads like a who's who of great club sides. Juventus, Barcelona and Bayern were arguably in the top 3 of club sides in the World that year, Inter who had Ronaldo, Zamorano and Djorkaeff were no slouches themselves...and United didn't lose a single game against any of them.

Bayern did dominate United in the final that year, but the had what it took to keep going. In a sense, they were lucky...but they kept going and refused to be beaten. Nobody will ever win a final like that again. They created their own luck and just for the record, if you watch Solskjaers goal again you'll see that it wasn't a deflection, it was flicked on by Sheringham for him to prod in at close range. Or are flick-ons, deflections and toe pokes wrong in your football purists handbook? Considering the amount of goals Fat Frank Lampard gets from shots cannoning in off defenders arses, I'd have thought you would have kept quiet on that particular topic...

I suppose you're the type of fella who would rather watch a boxing match where one fighter throws the punches while the other stands still, since you're a proponent of dominance when it comes to winning things.

Uniteds treble was a phenomenal achievement because they pulled it off in the face of extreme adversity and defeated the best sides that England and Europe had to offer and I've already made point of that in my previous post.

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Football / Re: Manchester United or Barcelona? Who's Treble Was Greater?
« on: August 07, 2009, 10:29:59 AM »
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Barcelona were never really challenged

This is why Uniteds treble was a bigger achievement.

They were pushed to the last game of the season in the league by a fantastic Arsenal team...had five epic games against Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool on the way to reaching to the FA Cup final...

In the Champions League, they had to play Barcelona twice, Munich three times, Inter twice and Juventus twice...

They overcame nearly every team they faced, often being made to dig deep...

- 2-0 down in the Champions League semi final against Juventus, United win 3-2

- 1-0 down against Liverpool at Old Trafford in the FA Cup with two minutes left, United win 2-1

- Schmeichel saving Bergkamps penalty in the last minute of the FA Cup semi final replay against Arsenal when the score was 1-1. United won the game 2-1.

- 1-0 down against Bayern Munich with two minutes left in the Champions League final, United win 2-1...

I've listed four separate occasions where Uniteds treble bid could have evaporated, yet they pulled things out of the fire each time and thats why their treble achievement was greater...Barcelona were hardly ever pushed to such extremes and were helped in the league by Real Madrids inability to challenge them. It was a one horse race.

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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: August 05, 2009, 07:12:37 PM »
Valencia looks impressive!

Manchester United 2 Valencia 0

An encouraging win capped by very good performances from Cleverley and Valencia (who set up both goals)...

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Football / Re: Thread for NY Red Bulls v W Connection (5-Aug-2009)
« on: August 05, 2009, 07:07:36 PM »
a 2-2 game will end up to penalities.. we ehh want that

I doubt it will get that far judging by the quality of defending (from both sides).


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Football / Re: Thread for NY Red Bulls v W Connection (5-Aug-2009)
« on: August 05, 2009, 07:03:30 PM »
There are a few more goals left in this game. The defending from both sides has been pretty poor. Phillip flaps at everything...he couldn't catch a cold.


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Football / Re: Hector keeps Connection CCL hopes alive.
« on: August 02, 2009, 09:19:56 AM »
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Do you notice how poor the usual support is for local games?

I thought the attendance was pretty poor. The uncovered section was virtually empty which is strange since Connection put a lot into marketing this game. Its the same old story, nobody here bothers to show unless someone big rolls into town.

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Football / Re: RIP Sir Bobby Robson
« on: August 01, 2009, 08:00:53 PM »
He signed my copy of 'Shoot' magazine when I was ten years old.

A pure football man, always had time for the so-called 'little people' (the fans).

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Football / Re: Gally on Synergy Sports
« on: August 01, 2009, 07:58:37 PM »
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3. Jones should play behind Yorke/attacking midfielder.

Good idea.

Play a target man behind a player who is known to drop deep.

Its a stroke of genius.

/sarcasm

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Football / Re: Hector keeps Connection CCL hopes alive.
« on: August 01, 2009, 07:51:16 PM »
Theres a lot of knee-jerk reactions on this thread.

I was working as one of the events staff at the game and managed to watch things unfold from one of the media boxes with a couple of journalists who were affiliated with the MLS club. 

I thought the first half was pretty tepid at times and there was very little in the way of creativity from either side, but after Connection scored, I thought if anyone was going to get anything from the game it would be them as they were marginally the better side in the first half.

I wouldn't blame the level of W-Connections coaching on the result, thats just a stupid statement to make. Games are often decided by things happening at the right (and wrong) time and sometimes its out of your hands.

There are two things that should be taken into consideration:

1. NY equalising right after the break via a deflection off the defenders hand. You can't really anticipate something like that and then theres the timing of the goal which came right after half-time which wasn't ideal. I suppose the boy could have got his body behind the shot a bit more but at the end of the day its just one of those things that happen in a game. Its easy for us to sit here and tell Connection what they should have done but players only have a split second to react. The goal from Hector came as result of some comedy defending from NY, yet I don't see anyone questioning their coaching methods.

2. The second goal came from another wicked deflection which the keeper could do nothing about. You can't blame the keeper or the defender as the lad has come out to make a challenge and the ball has deflected off of his leg and spun into the net. It happens.

From then on, NY took control of the midfield and started to knock it around with a bit more fluency and were content to just strangle the life out of Connection. I think Hector did very well to make the most of the chance that was handed to him and it was a pretty good finish. NY still have the advantage, but the equaliser still gives Connection a lifeline and something to aim for and work with. They have to go there and win, simple as that and they can do it if they have a little bit of belief in themselves and approach things in the right way.

Even the journalists from NY thought that Connection had the better of the first half and were pleased with the result, despite losing the lead.




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I like how AIG is still the sponsor

Isn't the AIG deal good through 2010?

I don't remember...just asking.

The AIG deal expires out at the end of next season...(2010)

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Football / Re: If kenwayne Jones was English
« on: June 17, 2009, 09:21:32 AM »
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OK I'll conceed that but he had some 30+ appearances (starts included)  so in the end the numbers will say he flopped.

Owen scored 16 goals in all competitions during his first and only season at Real Madrid.

Raul scored 13 goals in all competitions during the same season.

So who is the better striker?

Can you see why these threads never accomplish much?

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Football / Re: If kenwayne Jones was English
« on: June 17, 2009, 06:26:22 AM »
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TnT fans is jokers.

Last year Kenwyne was the next Drogba and shoulda go Liverpool. When Kev mention that his work off the ball is poor and his game have flaws, men say that Sunderland is a shit side.

Now he have some bad games for TnT and he is a shithound?

Standard procedure on this forum.

Btw, for all those comparing goal stats have got it all wrong.

Heskey isn't picked for England for his goalscoring prowess as he's not and never has been a prolific goalscorer...He's in there because he's incredibly effective at unsettling defenders with his physical attributes which means more space for other people. I think everyone's noticed that Rooney has had more freedom up front since Heskey was recalled?

And no, Kenwyne Jones wouldn't even get a look in for England. I'd imagine even Darren Bent would be ahead of Jones in the pecking order if Jones was English...

Dude Kenwyne is bigger and stronger than Heskey and a better finisher (as hard as that may be for some to believe).  So if he were English he would be in contention for a spot and with creative forces the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, and Barry + crosses from ah man like Beckham best believe KJ would be deadly for the 3 Lions if.....

I'm saying that the two play in the same position but play different roles and thus, you cannot really compare the two.

I really don't understand where this thread is going. Kenwyne Jones isn't English, he'll never be English and he'll never play for England so whats the point? Besides, if we were to judge him on current form, I doubt even Andorra would have him...


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Football / Re: If kenwayne Jones was English
« on: June 16, 2009, 05:19:56 PM »
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TnT fans is jokers.

Last year Kenwyne was the next Drogba and shoulda go Liverpool. When Kev mention that his work off the ball is poor and his game have flaws, men say that Sunderland is a shit side.

Now he have some bad games for TnT and he is a shithound?

Standard procedure on this forum.

Btw, for all those comparing goal stats have got it all wrong.

Heskey isn't picked for England for his goalscoring prowess as he's not and never has been a prolific goalscorer...He's in there because he's incredibly effective at unsettling defenders with his physical attributes which means more space for other people. I think everyone's noticed that Rooney has had more freedom up front since Heskey was recalled?

And no, Kenwyne Jones wouldn't even get a look in for England. I'd imagine even Darren Bent would be ahead of Jones in the pecking order if Jones was English...

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Football / Re: Its official - Ronaldo heads to Real Madrid!!
« on: June 11, 2009, 02:29:31 PM »
Manchester United = Feeder club for bigger and better teams   ;)

Does that mean that Chelsea are microscopic in size? I ask because a small club like Manchester United seem to have a knack of finishing above them these days. Or are you supporting someone else these days...

Heinze and Van Nistelrooy were already transfer listed before Real stepped in to sign them.

Ronaldo is the first instance of a player who actually wanted out of Old Trafford to solely play for Madrid.

Hows things at Chelsea btw? I hear Deco has spoken about his desire to leave and Bayern are weighing up a bid for Bosingwa.

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Football / Re: The Stretford End- Home of the Champions
« on: June 11, 2009, 09:21:15 AM »
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wait, Old Trafford not even in Manchester

Really? Where is it then?

Last time I checked, Salford was within city boundaries...

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Football / Re: Its official - Ronaldo heads to Real Madrid!!
« on: June 11, 2009, 09:16:20 AM »
Does that mean Tevez stayin?

Tevez and he agent done have one setta badmind towards Man U hierarchy, since they didn't want to pay him the money, and tell him he could ride if he want.

They agreed a fee with Joorabchian last week.

Keep up.

When Tevez comes back from Argentina, he'll have to decide whether he wants to stay.

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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Costa Rica Game (06-Jun-2009).
« on: June 06, 2009, 05:36:35 PM »
look like this go be a high scoring match

Really? What makes you think that?

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Football / Re: Jlloyd Samuel Now Eligible?
« on: June 04, 2009, 06:19:02 PM »
This is the same Bobby Zamora who said:

"Trinidad is my dad's country and to play in the finals would be a dream but West Ham are more important. I am only thinking about the club at the moment and do not want to be distracted from that."

A real patriot.

If T&T don't qualify for the World Cup, watch Samuel and Hoyte adopt a similar attitude.




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Football / Re: EPL Relagation thread.
« on: May 24, 2009, 12:11:37 PM »
wow, look at the shit team man utd putting out...

Man Utd: Kuszczak, Rafael Da Silva, Neville, Brown, De Laet, Nani, Fletcher, Gibson, Welbeck, Martin, Macheda.

Yeah, they're shit because most of them are young.

Is the auto-pilot button on your brain permanently stuck or do you actually dare to think constructivelyfrom time to time?

Either way, four of those players have more Champions League medals than most of Chelsea's first team...



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Football / Re: Dwight Yorke warns Tevez and Ronaldo
« on: May 12, 2009, 04:13:42 PM »
Some sensible advice from Yorke there...

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