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Football / Re: AIG & Manchester United

« on: March 19, 2009, 02:12:37 PM »

You told me that you'd be shocked if that's where the Risk Management team came from and not from within AIGFP itself.  All I was told is that they were sent from NY.  I know the Inc.'s HQ is in NY which is why I said the "parent company" sent them.  I admitted that I wasn't clear on the details as to exactly where, what address they originated from... but it clearly wasn't Danbury, CT and wasn't London.

Just because the oversight was initiated in NY...did it say that?, and the parent company is in NY, doesn't mean the oversight was initiated by the parent- again it seems like you're not understanding how a holding company is set up and how the parent sub relationship functions under a holding structure....or maybe I'm oversimplifying because I admittedly don't fully understand the complexities of AIG's corp structure...not sure if anyone on this msg board does.

From my undertanding a holding company is just a legal formation...in effect it would consist of ownership agreements and legal documents, Directors, Officers and in some cases some management- that's all.  No relativley significant assets (other than the shares of its subs), no personnel/staff making the decisions at the level that you're implying.  The directors & officers of the parent are ultimately the D&O's of the subs and they exercise their influence by running the boards of the subs, not necessarily as representatives of the holding company (parent), but as Board members/reps of the subs....The parent-sub relationship in a holding structure is not typically one of oversight at the level that is being discussed, because the holding company (parent) is set up ONLY to hold shares/voting rights, and consolidate the presentation of financial statements not to do the kind of oversight business as the parent that you imply...Holding companies don't typically have the resources to do (initiate) that kind of thing- the autonomy would realisitcally lie somewhat in one of it's operating businesses (a sub)....All business of the nature that we're discussing, in a holding structure is carried out by the subsidiaries.  In the case of oversight, there's probably (using a generic term) some sort of management company in place, or a corporate/non-revenue generating arm....or some oversight committee maybe appointed by each BOD that would initiate such... not the parent...audit committees are appointed by the BOD, and they deal with appointing auditors etc....Not the holding parent.  If you've worked for company that operates under a holding structure you'd know what I'm talking about.  Of course oversight policy at all levels is likely to be set at the parent level... runs through the entity to the highest rung, because in the end, it needs to be signed off at the highest point, but I'd be surprised if the ins and outs of it through the course of business are initiated at the parent level (if it's a holding company), as opposed to being delegated to the operating units.

Next time you get a chance, go to SEC.gov and go through the 10-k of a Holding company, and you'll see it is merely a consolidation of its subs....by itself, there's no revenue, expenses, assets or liabilities.  If a parent company is exercising the kind of oversight that you're trying to imply it would probably NOT be a holding company by definition..AIG inc. is a holding company that operates business through its many subsidiaries.

If you can consclusively prove otherwise (which that link does not do and I highly doubt anything will), then ok...but in the absence of that, the understanding of a holding structure and what a holding company effectively is, should deter you from making the assumptions that you make.  Given the complexity of AIG, by the sheer size of the company, there's a chance that it isn't as black or white as either of us see it though....which could probably partly account for why they're in this mess to begin with.

Your definition of a holding company is not how AIG is structured. AIG has full goverance over all units. Most decisions are made by the holding company because the holding unit is who files to the SEC.

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Football / Re: Jacks Ememies?

« on: October 25, 2008, 05:21:42 PM »

From what I have heard the country went to bed the night before the announcement knowing that they got the 2010 WC bid. All votes were decided and they were supposedly the most prepared with regards to stadia etc. They got up the next morning and Jack gave his votes to South Africa. Some say money pass which knowing Jack is not far fetched.

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Football / Re: Jacks Ememies?

« on: October 25, 2008, 02:55:03 PM »

Morocco

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Football / Re: Played against Marvin Faustin today

« on: August 28, 2008, 10:10:31 PM »

I want Coop's to come read this post... maybe then he'll understand a little bit more why so many posts here are anti-TTFF/JW.  Is the little injustices... added to the large.

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Football / Re: USA v T&T tickets, 3day sale tomorrow

« on: August 20, 2008, 02:56:58 PM »

I have a ticket in section 112 for sale. PM me if interested.

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Football / Re: Fire Jack Warner now petition website

« on: August 10, 2007, 05:26:35 PM »

Allyuh men who calling for Jack head as FIFA VP...suppose allyuh get allyuh wish? Sure Jack will be fired from FIFA but yuh know what...it will be MORE FIRE for TNT, because Jack will still be running the TTFF,and he will no longer be just "special adviser".
Be careful what yuh wish for. Let Jack fight his own battles with the rest of the world.
For me he just needs to keep away from TNT ball.

Jack sights set on way bigger things than TTFF. TTFF ent ahve nothing for him to tief again. If he get fired it is more likely that he will turn his sights on running the UNC so he could tief every dime of the oil money in the treasury.

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Football / Re: Fire Jack Warner now petition website

« on: August 10, 2007, 05:04:24 PM »

He can do his thing as FIFA vice President, more power to him. He must go from our football.

I disagree with this, he must go from all football, he's no use to anyone in the global football fraternity, your attitude comes across as selfish.  Especially as on this very board there are alot of threads which have to do with our compatriots footballing adventures (and misadventures) in England among other countries.  The irony.

Very true. I met a Morrocan a few months ago and he asked me if I was from Trinidad. When I told him yes, the man launch into how much he hates the FIFA vice president from Trinidad. When I said, oh Jack Warner, he said yes that is his name. Supposedly Morroco went to bed the night before the naming of the host for the 2010 world cup knowing they won because they had met all requirements and overnight Jack changes his vote or should I say all of Concacaf's votes. They think that South Africa passed some money and knowing Jack I just had to smile because I am sure it is true. The man almost had tears in his eyes telling me how much it would have helped his country and how it so unfair etc etc. I felt so bad eh especially since the first thing is man say is ' the FIFA VP from Trinidad.'

Tied-tongue pothound casting a bad light on our country.  

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Football / Re: Yorke won't get involved in Edwards' Soca Warriors row

« on: June 02, 2007, 10:06:34 PM »

Hats off to dem fellas for standing up with the team.

 

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Football / Re: Yorke won't get involved in Edwards' Soca Warriors row

« on: June 02, 2007, 10:02:36 PM »

Dreamer, I go as far as saying that these boys should be officially honoured when this is over. This is not about football, but more about leading their people out of serfdom. (I was tempted to say slavery, but that is too emotive a word). They were rewarded by their government for qualification, yet they should be remmembered and recognised by the government for their stand against tyrrany. These men are heroes, and maybe one day their bravery will be remmembered in the classroom, as the real bringers of freedom to the people of Trinidad & Tobago.

take ah deep breath ralphy. or be more concise....say bring some transparency and fairness into football.
bout bringers of freedomw ah u feel it is steups

Allyuh does kill me yes

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Football / Re: Tickets for the Boston game on sale

« on: May 30, 2007, 06:19:31 PM »

bump

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Football / Tickets for the Boston game on sale

« on: May 29, 2007, 10:19:41 AM »

If interested please PM me. Thanks

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Football / Re: Forum rearrangement ? Vote

« on: May 11, 2007, 08:16:09 AM »

It is not no official poll.
Whatever the outcome of the poll, the moderators will decide what is best.

Steups....allyuh men is the greatest yes. Yuh know if the majority of the votes on the poll was for changing the site allyuh men woulda been on Flex and Tallman arse to make the change.

Official poll or not, seeing that it is a change that is going to affect all forumites, it should be considered by the mods when making their decision.

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Football / Re: Forum rearrangement ? (moderators?)

« on: May 10, 2007, 12:45:34 PM »

Now I admit that the slit up format in bigsoccer has caused a bit of segregation (for example i only look at the Concacaf and France rooms) but Soca Warriors doesn't have the huge attendance of bigsoccer, so breaking the main forum into 2 or even three categories not going to cause any set of segregation.

This site, unlike bigsoccer is a showcase for Trini football and Trini football fans. ITs first goal should be to be a reference for anyone and anything on Trinidad football. If you want to find out something about TNT football you should automatically come here, and even more important, you should find it. There is no equivalent right now, because socawarriorstt will never leave wholesale criticism of the TTFF on it site 

Don't you think that such a move could potentially hurt the proposed 'Trinidad' football forum. Look at the cricket forum, how many us us even know it is there or frequent it? As Touches said, 3/4 of us live abroad, when it come time to talk about the PFL there will be nothing to say because we not going to games and we do not know the players. Not that much is in the newspapers so that is no help. We need to depend on the one or two in trini who frequent the games and find some time to post. The traffic on here is already slower than many other boards with ppl posting maybe 2-3 posts daily if that much, will that decrease even more because ppl now know that they could visit every 2 weeeks and ketch up?

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Football / Re: Moderators I feel we go have to start a foreign Football site

« on: May 08, 2007, 01:27:27 PM »

And when every other post is about hardest allyuh will complain even more.

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Football / Re: Sunderland are Champions of the Championship

« on: May 06, 2007, 02:05:32 PM »

Congrats......

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Football / Re: Will Carlos stay?

« on: April 09, 2007, 03:50:40 PM »

Is it really up to the player? Given the potential oportunity to be playing in the EPL, would a player take the chance to abandon the team that took him to the big arena?

Question: what will happen to Stern and Yorke? will their services be still valued?

Were Stern's and Yorke's moves to Sunderland a direct result of Carlos being there? Yuh doh have to answer I am only asking because I find this question a bit foolish and this entire thread extremely premature.

 

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Football / Re: Soca Warriors 06/07 Home Adidas Shirt $29.99 US on Eastbay

« on: March 07, 2007, 01:45:28 PM »

Good looking out Andre.

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Football / Re: Porterfield in cancer setback

« on: March 07, 2007, 01:40:55 PM »

Hope he gets well soon.

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Football / Re: WARRIOR SUPPORTERS CALL TO ACTION

« on: March 07, 2007, 01:39:23 PM »

ah know what you guys are gettin at, but its not a public company, they are under no obligation to do this
at least as far as i know....correct me if im wrong

aahhhhhh....... well ricky.... then the government under no obligation to give dem any money as well right?

yep 100% right  
im curious where most funding comes from for other national programs....i would assume its mostly private sponsors not governments.....Trinidad private sector has to step up here in my opinion
as well we have to free ourselves of the corruption at the top
Until we do, nothing go change as we all know
Winnipeg Fury, if you read this, do you know where the funding comes from for the Canadian program??

Maybe the key is to place pressure on the corporate sponsors because though the TTFF is private, once they are providing money I would hope that they would have a built in clause in their contract that the TTFF has to provide a full account of funds. If their reputation is in jeopardy maybe they will stand along with the gov't on this.

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Football / Re: TTFF SOLUTION

« on: March 07, 2007, 09:36:41 AM »

The TTFF solution is to get rid of the festering cess pool that is its administration.

 

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Football / Re: D Touches Match Observation TT Under 17 vs Mexico under 17

« on: March 04, 2007, 06:33:56 PM »

Seems that Mexico is no longer sponsored by Nike. Saw the new kit last week on Soccer.com

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Football / Re: Lucky Connection.

« on: February 14, 2007, 10:01:05 AM »

allyuh mad oui...goals win matches  i argree but we win end ah story. but i perfer to lose doing the right thing, cause in the end luck cyah trump consisteincy.
 i wah connection learn n try to reaise the level of thier game at least try allyuh jus concern about the win, that cyah help them in de long run if thye keep playing shit. as far as the match reports concerned it seems like (as usual) the players cyah do de basics properly where that will carry we in the end how far.

say what allyuh want if they had gotten 5-0 but played well i woulda perfer that. trinis to short sighted.

 

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Football / Re: Warriors fans split over lawsuit.

« on: February 03, 2007, 11:16:32 AM »

Trini fan, I think like Super Grover, your onto another story. The transparency of de TTFF is not my immediate concern. I was talking about de players. A contract and an agreement is 2 different thing and you are trying to make it seem like it is de same. With a signed contract, I can go to court and obtain a judgement with an agreement however I have to hope that someone honors it... With all dem MCI commercial you mean to tell me that people didnt make de TTFF " put it in writing"  dat was de first flaw and if they did then thats why they have de footing to go ahead with said lawsuit and that would have been our warriors standin up for de players, demselves included and thats a beautiful thing. De faults of de TTFF are no secret nor can we fix them except for in an election and ah dont think Oliver Champs or Jack Warner does get de wok through an election process. Asking de TTFF for transparency is like asking Panday or Manning to open up de book and tell we why some people still hungry and have no shelter in Trinidad especially when they give 85% of their oil to USA which means that business runnin or de fact that our GDP and per capita is way over the likes of Jamaica, USA or Brasil for that fact.

misrepresentation of funds, you start talking about dat and you have left de contraints of de TTFF. Trinidad & Tobago Football Federation
is governed by the Trinidad and Tobago government. Dont blame Oliver champs if yuh not going to blame he boss and their boss and all de other bosses going all de way up to de top boss because they all eating. Jackula in this instance acts like de outside salesman bringing in business for de Bosses to split up. Somehow, somewhere in there de topic of football got lost and thats just it. These fellas not on football they on dollars and football is another means of attaining those dollars. I say Fire dem all but then where do you start and where do you stop?

Come and talk to the rest ah we when yuh learn to read an understand nah...the terms of the contract, agreement or whatever you choose to call it, whether signed or unsigned ARE NOT IN DISPUTE. The players were supposed to get 50% and the TTFF gave them 50%. It is 50% of what that is in dispute. Saying that the TTFF is never going to have transparency is saying that every single team that represent Trinidad is going to get screwed in the arse which is contrary to your original argument that once the new players sign a contract they cool. Because no contract they are going to sign will flat out state the amount they are going to get 50% of because these amounts like sponsorship deals cannot be determined beforehand and this is where the TTFF has the opportunity to present things as they like.

Like Grover I am now on to another story 

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Football / Re: Warriors fans split over lawsuit.

« on: February 02, 2007, 12:03:03 PM »

Alyuh fellas good yes! I am not about to loose any sleep over this bacchanal going on between the players and the TTFF. I have the utmost respect, love and appreciation to the guys for taking us to the WC, but the fact is that we don't know all the circumstances surrounding this feud and may never know. I say, let the courts decide and when they do I will stand by their verdict. God doh sleep and if it is, that the TTFF and Jackula are at fault then they will suffer the consequences of their actions. I believe firmly in sowing and reaping, so let the TTFF dem play up!!

The 2nd reason im not going to loose any sleep is that these fellas are not united, so how do they expect anyone to take them seriously when they themselves aren't serious. (I don't know the reason for one side suing and the other not) and ah doh give a damn!! Alyuh get your house in order 1st, then we cud talk...

Plus for man here to say that they hardly have money is a load ah B.S (all dem fellas get a nice chunk a change from the Gov't) so doh give meh no shit about man have to take care of dey family and pay bills (they cud more than afford ito live comfortably for a couple more years without studying anyone or even kickin a dam ball).. Doh get me wrong, that is no  reason for them to jus ignore the issue, if they believe they are right and a contract was breached between them and Jackula verbally, then they have every right to fight for what is their's...but do it as effiiciently and sensibly as possible...Doh make the fans pay for alyuh chupidness...You tellin me that the TTFF and Players cudn't deal with this thing more diplomatically behind closed doors and not bring the fans it to alyuh ASSNESS... Steups, is we sufferin not dem, cuz Jack have he money, and de players (contrary to what some of alyuh might say, livin nice too).....

W.K OUT    

Allyuh fellas good yes. They got $1million TT from the gov't. How the arse is that living nice? By the time yuh buy a piece of land and put up a house the money done. God forbid they try to live in the West, they better go and line up in NHA for a house in Powder Magazine because that is all they will be able to afford.

The 5K US from TTFF is just enough for them to go a few all inclusive fetes and buy a carnival costume.

Yeah that surely is living nice while Jack son spending all the money from the TV rights and Adidas contracts on new car for he woman and them.

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Football / Re: Warriors fans split over lawsuit.

« on: February 02, 2007, 11:01:49 AM »

Ngozi, We doh know de problem is that they haven't gotten paid, its more of they haven't gotten paid enough as is their position (I suspect)  I or no one else has said to drop the lawsuit as a matter of fact I said that I was proud that they would stick up for themselves and not be exploited. How does this affect a current team? well ah hopin that new players would remember when dealing wid de TTFF that there are differences between what they say and what they sign off on in black and white. I would hope these new players would keep a paper trail, get documents signed so that if they have to bring forth a l;awsuit after de fact at least they would have a better legal foot to stand on. Also transparency helps as well. Let other people know (before the fact) what is promised. So citizens can help make demands on players behalf but at this 24 hour is only the courts that can help them now because obviously de TTFF is going down to the nail with this one. I does watch CSI too, when de evidence is compelling enough they does make an arrest but without enough evidence they have to sit and bite time.

Like yuh not watching enough CSI to realize that neither the TTFF nor the players are disputing the 50% agreement, whether a contract was signed or not. The players don't need evidence to prove that the agreement is there because if you look at any daily newspaper around the WC when Jack was trying to make the gov't look bad, the intentions of the TTFF were clearly stated in press conferences etc...in black and white.

Yes it is every team's issue, new or old, because contract or no contract, neither can ward against gross misrepresentation of funds which is the WC team's issue....they say they have to get half of 100M and the TTFF saying it is half of 10M. Yes we need transparency but we need transparecy on the part of the TTFF so that income and expenses can to properly accounted for, the players have no control over that.

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Football / Re: Warriors fans split over lawsuit.

« on: February 01, 2007, 11:53:49 AM »

Well said ngozi 

Glad to see the site getting some recognition but would have liked it to be for something more positive.

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Football / Re: PLAYERS TO SUE TTFF

« on: January 26, 2007, 11:58:52 AM »

I trying to figure out how dey could sue TTFF if dey agreement was with Jack?

Jack is de smart man and suck dem in good
there are going to get nothing from TTFF

I taking this statement as sarcasm.  We all know that Jack is TTFF.  

bear with me as I explan my point
Jack is the "Special Advisor" to the TTFF.
TTFF go say that because of his status Jack had no right to have an arrangement with the players and they will say that because it was not done DIRECTLY with the TTFF, that the arrangement is null and void.
That is what I believe will transpire.
From my viewpoint
I will be VERY surprised if the TTFF does NOT use that arguement

They ent make it because chances are it would not hold up. Jack has been acting in a leadership capacity for TTFF which anyone can prove. I see it as being unlikely that the TTFF could make an argument that Jack is involved in all other decisions but not this one..conveniently. But then again you never know in Trinidad.

Wishing all the best to the players.

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Football / Re: PLAYERS TO SUE TTFF

« on: January 26, 2007, 11:54:37 AM »

I trying to figure out how dey could sue TTFF if dey agreement was with Jack?

Jack id de smart man and suck dem in good
there are going to get nothing from TTFF

I taking this statement as sarcasm.  We all know that Jack is TTFF.  

The full story in the Express, somebody could download it....Some highlights...
Theobald and Cornell named in the list.  Yorke, Latas, Carlos, Lawrence and Scotland not named.
Players and Jack agreed to 30% of the sponsorship money before WC.  That changed to 50% during the WC.  Jack negotiated in his capacity as Special Advisor to TTFF.
TTFF quote a figure of TT$18M, then deducted expenses, remained with $141,102, which work out to $5,644 per player.
Lawyers for the players say them figures wrong and want the audited accounts..the words used were "substantially inaccurate and unreliable".  Expenses overstated and income understated.
Lawyers claimed that TTFF said Addidas deal alone was for US$11.5M, now TTF claiming is only US$300,000.
The players wanted to give US$36,000 from the FIFA grant to charity.  Not even that money they get yet.
No foreign players invited for games.  Densill not sure about Panama and Costa Rica games either.

If arbitration go to FIFA, then Jack might come out on top.  If it go to civil court, then TTFF could possibly get ban according to FIFA policy on outside interference...if they look at it like that.  It looking like a no win situation either way.

Maybe its just me but I find something very wrong with making players pay their own expenses for being a part of the National Team.
Is that really how it is supposed to work?
Were expenses deducted from the whole allotment of all monies, or just from the players half?

Fenwick is a kakahole.

It would make sense that all expenses are deducted off the top because regardless of the arrangement with the players, this is the way it works for all organizations: Total Revenue - Total Expenses  = Profit which is then shared accordingly. I don't think the players have an issue with that as much as they have an issue with the fact that what was reported as income and expenses are inconsistent.

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Football / Re: 2 kinda Waggonists

« on: January 25, 2007, 03:07:01 PM »

After writing a book you are still missing my point.

It is all well and good that people like to socialize with whom they please and yes it is a personal preference but that preference is not helping to further WN. Sitting together to me makes a huge difference because then the group is seen as a stronger force. That could go a long way in terms of things like getting sponsorship, getting tickets etc. That is something that peope in their rush to defend themselves are failing to see. Then  when WC time comes around and WN only gets 30 tickets and 100 men want to go nuff people will be criticizing when they themselves are partially to blame.

As for the WN issues you may have, i have had similar issues in the past but instead of sitting and saying WN is a waste of time, I posted my issues on the site and went as far as to email the board members and I did get a response. Maybe you should do the same. Ppl cannot know that you have a problem unless yuh tell them.

If you don't like my blasted book then don't read it...plain and simple.

I did not miss your point, in fact I addressed the issue of folks sitting together and the potential impact it can have on making a stronger push to the Federation to get tickets.  My response to that was that at the end of the day people will sit at the games where they feel most welcomed/comfortable...if that means opting to sit with their personal friends over the WN, you and I might not agree with it, but that's their choice.  Who the hell am I to vex some next man because he opts to sit with his PERSONAL friends, over WN members. 

I also suggested that rather than rely on TTFF looking at WN members in the crowd (assuming they'd do as much) perhaps Warrior Nation could instead solicit deposits on tickets and that way with deposit money in hand KNOW for sure how many tickets it should pre-order for games.  Agree or disagree, perhaps in your own rush to defend yourself, you overlooked that part of my response.

I am certain you can also point me to where I said that WN was a waste of time.  In fact quite the contrary, if I thought it a waste of time I wouldn't bother making 'constructive' criticism.  Good for you that you took the time to write WN about your concerns, it wasn't a big enough issue to me until it was raised in this thread today, so here is where I chose to make my issues known.  Tallman has responded, so I'm sure the message was effectively communicated.

Calm down breds no sense getting yuh panties all in a bunch. If yuh think yuh right, then yuh right...have a nice day.

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Football / Re: 2 kinda Waggonists

« on: January 25, 2007, 01:44:22 PM »

Seeing that there are very visible members of WN like Tallman I don't think that it is too much to ask for ppl to introduce themselves. Why wait for ppl to approach you and assume that you since you wearing a WN jersey you are a member and then they getting brace when you are not?...Speaking from personal experience here

Kandi can speak for herself but I don't think that this issue has as much to do with ppl liming and kicksing as it has to do with showing solidarity and helping out if needed.

1) How else can you be considered a supporters group and you can't even prove that you have supporters?

2) How else can you justify things like getting tickets from TTFF if you cannot prove how many members you can guarantee at games?

So yes it may not be a personal issue to some but I think that it is a very big WN issue. People who taking it personally maybe just guilty.

You assume many things, not the least of which being that people know what these 'very visible' members look like.  I only knew what Tallman looked like because he was pointed out to me...and even then I didn't really get  an opportunity to approach him because he was legitimately busy with one thing or the other on that particular day.  All that aside, my point isn't to say on whom lies the onus for making introductions...the whole point is that if for whatever reason people feel to keep to themselves at social and sporting events then that is their business.  Some people perhaps want to just go and enjoy themselves in their own way and not made to feel obligated to lime like is some Meet and Greet.

It would be one thing for Kandi to make an appeal to members to come socialize a bit more, but to try and 'scold' people for exercising their right to socialize how they want is kinda ridiculous.  Maybe this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion, I will leave it to Kandi to come clarify her comments...but personally I am more of an extrovert than others, but even so I don't see the need to be raking others over the coals on account of their preferences when it comes to socializing.

Now as for the other issues you mention referencing Warrior Nation and it's activities, my personal feeling is that Warrior Nation needs to better get it's act together.  Ever since I joined just prior to Germany I have received a grand total of Zero...with a capital 'Z', communication from the organization.  I recognize that this is a 100% volunteer group, and so my criticism is intended constructively, but there has been no solicitation (from what I know) for assistance from the membership, nor has there been any news or updates sent.  Perhaps the best gauge of member interest in tickets etc. would be had by informing members of upcoming events, and accepting deposits on game tickets or whatever.  At least that way you know who is serious about attending from who just talking.

I didn't come here to talk about Warrior Nation, but since you raised it while responding to my statements, I feel the need to respond accordingly.

After writing a book you are still missing my point.

It is all well and good that people like to socialize with whom they please and yes it is a personal preference but that preference is not helping to further WN. Sitting together to me makes a huge difference because then the group is seen as a stronger force. That could go a long way in terms of things like getting sponsorship, getting tickets etc. That is something that peope in their rush to defend themselves are failing to see. Then  when WC time comes around and WN only gets 30 tickets and 100 men want to go nuff people will be criticizing when they themselves are partially to blame.

As for the WN issues you may have, i have had similar issues in the past but instead of sitting and saying WN is a waste of time, I posted my issues on the site and went as far as to email the board members and I did get a response. Maybe you should do the same. Ppl cannot know that you have a problem unless yuh tell them.