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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Sweden Game.

« on: June 10, 2006, 12:58:58 PM »

golf commentators referring to result as a SHOCKING TIE 

God bless TNT.............   

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Football / Re: Thread for the T&T vs Sweden Game.

« on: June 10, 2006, 12:55:49 PM »

Fantastic result..... shaka, dwight, edwards, birchall, john, avery et al....... unfreakingbelieveable...

 

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Football / Re: T&T scores 3-2 win over Vienna.

« on: May 23, 2006, 05:03:36 PM »

Shaka starts.... more exposure to top competition leading to WC.... plus he's the better keeper.. oh by the way... how you measure shaka reaction time again... 

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Football / Re: TnT 3 vs. Austria Wien 2....report

« on: May 23, 2006, 12:58:42 PM »

Thanks bro'  -- appreciate... now where's the video link??  

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Football / Re: Soca Warriors play first training match in Austria today.

« on: May 23, 2006, 09:28:21 AM »

link anyone.... taking it to de wire huh... 

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Football / Re: Bobby Zamora and Jlloyd Samuel cleared to play?

« on: December 11, 2005, 09:15:05 PM »

When, how, why doesn't matter because they have to make de team... jus' like Nixon, an Dwarika an dem boys... everything comes down to fielding the best available team.... (doesn't mean picking man who may be more skilled/ making more money playing pro ball)...  that's why we have a coach..... by de way nobody vex dat a man wid no trini bloodline, "save" the team when BSC was removed but vex wid players who may assist in taking us to another level.... nice     ---have no money buh mih pores raise jus thinking 'bout WC2006.... dat mus mean ah going then...

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Football / Re: Legend Best 'enters final hours'

« on: November 25, 2005, 10:20:12 AM »

RIP .... great skill..

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Football / Re: Which is the best goalkeeper in colleges football in TnT within past 40yrs?

« on: November 23, 2005, 10:58:57 AM »

shaka hislop hands down.... then back in de '70s Pres sando had an indian chap.... think he lived in marabella (could be ragoonath or something) buh he used to shut down goal.... top class keepers, dem fellas used to fly... 

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 23, 2005, 08:47:39 AM »

trinidad is my land , of which i am proud and glad,
tan, tan
an ah cyah understand, why some people does talk it bad
dar, dar, dar
some ah them jus running dey mouth,
doh know what dey talking bout,
boy de ting dey does say bout here,
is really too much for me to bear....  

Patriotism is great, but when it blinds you to demands of the global society that we live in.....you only end up hurting the same country that you love, by living in ignorance and retarding your own development.........eatin' shark and bake and wining down to the ground, and knowing how to cut a coconut doesn't not give you a competitive advantage outside of your own country.......because every country has a rich culture, history, traditions, a unique society, and unique practices.......

My apoligies aforehand to slights unintended and unforeseen... 

Aside: On the question of competitive advantages,

1. Some advantages are quicker to translate into jobs and cashflow. A good education is pretty obvious here but its not the only competitive advantage we take from living in TNT. Just being exposed to the diversity in our country is a HUGE COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE, intangibles like tolerance and tangibles like exposure to roti and shark & bake are advantages that we have ----- with a lil' entreupreneurial impetus we can engage in a multitude of pursuits. Understand that having a competitive advantage is not the same as being able to actually use it since that falls on the individual himself.

2. I'll fight to the end if someone tell me wining is not a competitive advantage.... yuh know how dey talk bout snake oil and ball bearing in yuh waist... dey have use fuh dat too.... on top ah dat trinis basically friendly .... ah jus' keeping it real...

3. As for de demands of a global society... consider a basic law in physics... for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction... (take mih word on it)... so for every wannabe executive (with blinders) who immerses himself into the rat race there's somebody with burnout who's trying to get out. what many percieve to be a 'demand' is usually a self sustained and insatiable desire to 'get ahead'.... funny though, cause  life is a zero sum game since we all come in with nothing and we all die with nothing.

4. This may or may not be relevant but consider Birchall.... prior to qualification it was implied that he used the phrase "me mum" a lot... i don't have a problem with that .... buh guess what, it seemed nobody else had a problem with that either... go figure.... 

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 08:10:23 PM »

I am saying that regardless of who you are, what you do, you need to seek self improvement.

Have to agree wholeheartedly with this ... no ifs, buts/ ands ...

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 07:35:32 PM »

I honestly had no idea that onliest was a word but it just goes to show that there is a thin line between acceptable and unacceptable.... our role is to accept our players with their weaknesses in education and help them where possible..... buh that hold for every Trini everywhere .... root theme is respecting the knowledge that everyone has.... kinda like de fable with de lion and de mouse.... 

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 07:26:39 PM »

anybody think we should send them fellas on ah lil English Speaking course before the world cup

I listening to Theobald interview tonight and the man using words like "Onliest" amongst others
now how it go look them fellas reach Germany and ah man push ah camera infront he or some next warrior face and them kind ah words coming out

onliest though ? ........de accent is ours to be proud of.....the slang and colourful ways of expression- cool to a certain extent............but words like onliest.......... can't endorse that

Do not try to make this debate about the type of Language you speak, beit trini or the Queen's English, it is about the fact that they went through five years of Secondary school English and still using words - IN AN INTERVIEW -  LIKE ONLIEST

Bredda leh we clear this up......

From google search,

Main Entry:   Alone
Part of Speech:   adjective 1
Definition:   separate
Synonyms:   abandoned, apart, batching it, by itself, companionless, deserted, desolate, detached, forlorn, forsaken, friendless, hermit, in solitary, individual, isolated, lone, lonely, lonesome, onliest, only, shag, single, sole, solitary, solo, stag, traveling light, unaccompanied, unaided, unassisted, unattached, unattended, unescorted, unmarried, widowed
Antonyms:   accompanied, crowded, grouped, mobbed, together
Source:   Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
Copyright © 2005 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.



 

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 07:18:57 PM »

maybe ah should start ah new topic... diversity and inclusion training for TNT fans..... it seems we (sadly) need it more than our soccer players need remedial training.... 

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 07:08:50 PM »

now we talking....

1) five years in secondary school and now some remedial school may help? let's say we schedule a couple courses in basic english between now and June '06... How do we quantify the improvement in say three identified breddas. Crash course in the english reader or de students companion... or say we just ban anybody from using onliest... I understand what dat mean... de man communicating... de problem may lie in de level of communication deemed acceptable by de communication police... which last time i checked could only use that education and communication crutch to make demselves seem important in their own eyes... i repeat if a man say onliest in french, german, japanese, arabic most of us would be quite indifferent .... he does not embarrass his country or demean its education system. Anyone who supports this is in fact simply trying to maintain a status quo... ie. this is the way it should be...

2) if anyone really listened to the dialects in England you would swear some of them were foreign languages.... how yuh think Jamaican, Bajan and Trini sound so different. This starting to sound like wind up toys ..... proper english = good communication.... small point people may overlook---- clearly proper english didn't get us to de world cup.... more like blood, sweat and tears... 

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Football / Re: Sub Avery ....

« on: November 22, 2005, 06:15:48 PM »

sound like a lil' pres' an' south bias..... (south myself).... all who downcry Avery deserve one good Avery John tackle, (a lil' outside de penalty box for full effect)... that said dey should make a drink in his name....   

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 05:47:46 PM »

trinidad is my land , of which i am proud and glad,
tan, tan
an ah cyah understand, why some people does talk it bad
dar, dar, dar
some ah them jus running dey mouth,
doh know what dey talking bout,
boy de ting dey does say bout here,
is really too much for me to bear....   

you misunderstand everything I say yes

but I go join in with yuh

Our sugar and oil is very refined
you see firends this is ah real king Solomon mine

total respect...   

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 05:45:18 PM »

[quote author=greenpea link=topic=7897.msg66910#msg66910

if communication is a weakness then something really wrong because is african, italian, french, german and dialects galore we going to bounce up in germany.... japanese, arabic....

exactly
yuh now prove meh point
look how much people going and be there and we need to go and communicate with all of them
and how we going to do that if we cannot even speak our own language properly?

but sir.... OUR own language is an english dialect.... an anyting dem boy say i could understand... thank god dey break biche an skip de occasional english class to play some football...

when ah was youngh ah work in de oilfields... plenty expatriates running golf course an' making exclusive club. none ah we thought them ting was right... when the expat gone an' we take over what yuh think happen... we run ting de same way.... (for those who don't get it... people bad talk the dialect etc till we feel is a bad ting... now we doing de same ting... we downcrying our stuff ..... aye, love yuhself, understand what going on here.... doh matter who talk good or bad we have to be there for each other... all ah we is trini to de bone...) .......

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 05:34:37 PM »

trinidad is my land , of which i am proud and glad,
tan, tan
an ah cyah understand, why some people does talk it bad
dar, dar, dar
some ah them jus running dey mouth,
doh know what dey talking bout,
boy de ting dey does say bout here,
is really too much for me to bear....  

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 05:26:45 PM »

one of our weaknesses is communication. forget vanity, forget formal education, forget ridicule..........based on what I've heard, some of our boys lack communication skills........and there's nothing wrong with trying to improve that.........end of story.

if communication is a weakness then something really wrong because is african, italian, french, german and dialects galore we going to bounce up in germany.... japanese, arabic.... so somebody trying to say we'll embarrass ourselves in this ..... please, is party, football, beer an pan. people thinking real myopic (ah not callin names)...

if i'm a businessman ah need to make presentations, do the suits get de latest powerpoint addins/software. Ah doh need that to run ball for 90 min.... yea ah need to be able to answer questions but i think de boys capable. if people really want to know about TNT dey do a google search. (we ent backward)

Ethnicity/race: East Indian (a local term—primarily immigrants from northern India) 40.3%, black 39.5%, mixed 18.4%, white 0.6%, Chinese and other 1.2%

Religions: Roman Catholic 29.4%, Hindu 23.8%, Anglican 10.9%, Islam 5.8%, Presbyterian 3.4%, other 26.7%

Literacy rate: 99% (2003 est.)

we cyah use our values and paradigms an say them fellas should take remidial classes or they need to beef up on communication skills... they doing what they do best.....

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Football / Re: Apart from Yorke and Latas..which T&T players showed improved

« on: November 22, 2005, 05:03:52 PM »

from a disciplined perspective ah think the whole team button down.... before (an still at times) de defence used to really get into disarray... now is a lot more backing up and teamwork...

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 04:57:21 PM »

What people may/may not realize is that we all have our strengths and weaknesses... if those with superior english speaking ( very different from communication skills) skills can pontificate on  those with less skills then it must be fair that those with superior soccer skills should be afforded the same luxury. seems fair but a dotish solution... we should respect and embrace rather than ridicule and criticize.... ah know this is a hard concept to grasp but spending a lot of time getting a formal education, and speaking well does not make one a better person, nor does it guarantee a happy life. Therefore i submit that those who want de boys to speak better are indulging in an exercise of vanity (not to mention futility).... doh worry dey wouldn't shame yuh... yuh crisp... 

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 04:44:04 PM »

cm'on guys keep up.... its almost like the root issue here is that people don't respect our own culture... lets talk better english... why? to be more english... lets be like this or like that... why? because we doh like what happening in TNT... we're developing a culture... OUR own culture even as we engage in this forum.... this culture will develop for years to come as OUR own experience in diversity and  TNT culture. Plenty places have beach but not our beach..... its different and that difference COUNTS... knowledge of that difference counts to others more than it counts with us because we take what we have for granted. IF WE CANNOT LOVE AND RESPECT PEOPLE TALKING TRINI WITH GREEN VERB etc then we are far from understanding the same people and de problems we dealing with. somebody mus be really fooling somebody if dey could say i'll be embarrased because dem fellas talk bad... cause i won't be embarrased ... buh den i could only speak fuh miself...  

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 04:25:33 PM »

man talking about formal education...you talking about cultural experiences.

two different things fella.

wish someone could explain why fellas  doh understand that 'the more yuh learn is de more yuh realize is de less yuh know'.... this lil idea goes a long way to building humbleness...  then people could also grasp this concept.... education is relative because as well educated as some of us are in this forum we pale intellectually to others with whom we engage... so the idea of thinking that breddas should speak better to represent trinidad is moot because in someone's eyes somewhere we ourselves fall short... but i'll bet that idea seems really foreign.... better we say dem fellas should practice free kick an' corners ( related to football) rather than buck up on their shakespeare..... ah never know formal education stood by itself; de way i know it is yuh respect de knowledge any man bring to de table and yuh use dat knowledge to achieve a goal, an who could help good... who just stand at de side an' criticize... well, not so good...  

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 03:55:11 PM »

Socrates first called up to the National squad when he was 25, and gained 63 caps.
At club level, he played for Botafogo, Corinthians, Fiorentina Flamengo and finaly Santos, where he finished his career in 1990.

Socrates continued his medical education whilst playing top class football, and has gone on to become a Doctor.

All ah dat de man do an he couldn't speak a lick ah tntian dialect, wine down to de ground or differentiate between a cascadoo in a doubles from a shark an bake on maracas beach... know de difference between divali an' eid.... poor fella probably never hit maracas or went up paramin for a lime... never taste a point ting......  never hear bout sparrow, kitch, blueboy, maestro.... pelau, callaloo, roti/buss up shut... please ah could go on an' on..... one man education is a 'nudder man headache... to each his own an' respect to all...  doh ever feel de breddas not educated... remember, commonsense come before book sense......   

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 02:48:48 PM »

I understand your feelings regarding the way the players may speak, but saying dat is de way we does talk is not an excuse for lack of self improvement.

bossman, this is exactly what I am saying.  You see the word you just use: self improvement.  So talking like them makes you better as an individual?  I guess them French black players having the hair straight straight like Drogba is self improement too then cause they looking more like them?

Love yourself boss.  You well shakle.

Education is a key that unlocks many doors.

You are as proud as I am of my trininess and all that entails, yet you can communicate well to show that you are not I used Standard English to show yall that it eh no jackass talking and supporting the use of Trindadian dialect.  Is ah educated brother.

I rest my case

1) Education should rightly unlock doors.... doors like pride, discrimination and poor judgement... but if i may opine on your discourse i would mention that the more well educated among us have a responsibility to understand others rather than try to change others to be more like ourselves.

2) consider the case of a footballer speaking excellent spanish, italian, portuguese or french. What difference does that make to me.... you flatter yourself that the world is like you my friend... time to get ah real education... 

3) I tell people that smart people do and say stupid (or chupid) things all de time... nuttin wrong wid dat... show me an educated brother and i'll show you a man who's going to make a mistake... 

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 02:30:38 PM »

Education and Game vs Game

age 22-28 playing ball in the savannah or even reached to the stadium....money flowing.  You are the best or should I say "bestest" in the team cause you playing ball with all the skills in the world.  That's all you have going mind you.

Emergency; doctors say un-repairable, son you can't play ball again.  

Sirs, end this story for me, what does this 22-2 have to fall back on ?  

How allyuh sounding like young-uns so..... people have the best education, making tons of money and always second guessing whether dey wouldn't be happier back home in tnt just conversing in we talk. you watching some breddas who perform the impossible an you stuydying dat these guys not representing us proper... brother better yuh kneel down an' pray dat god give yuh some of de happiness dat them fellas share through their achievements!!! an if dey end up broke.... believe me dey go be de talk ah de rumshop... but they will have seen things that you and i will never see and done things you and i will never do, for sure dey getting de love of 99.95% of TNT... if you happy with your education and your superior football skills all kudos to you... but doh seek to dilute the achievements of these breddas by belittling their skills in de education department... I'll bet allyuh is pan expert too....     somebody call AWATT ah ready to join up...

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Football / Re: Remedial School

« on: November 22, 2005, 02:15:59 PM »

yeah dialect is one thing
and I doh thnk we sould lose that cause that is who defines us as a people
I doh really rate Yorke with that English accent cause Shaka they just as long and he eh lose his
that aside

Bad English is just something that cannot go on on the world stage
when them fellas open they mouth I does cringe at what might come out

I remember some months ago I see Junir Gong on 106 and park and I tell meh self boy, yuh know how them Jamaican does talk like they never went to school
and to my surprise the man is very well spoken
eloquent and answer everything to the point in he Jamaican accent

so if he could do it who is we

yuh know de bottom line is that people understand each other.... if you couldn't get past these guys then you would have died in the claude noel era.... if you listen to the english football interviews you would probably be aghast (hope de spelling right) cause a lot of those guys speak pretty bad english... but bottom line is , this is who we are and you can't be all things to all people , so love  yourself and take pride in de boys... dey representing us with all their faults imagined or otherwise..... jeez, yuh mean it wasn't enough that we make de WC06 --- yuh wanted us to make it with scholars? ... take it or leave it, who vex lorse... 

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Football / Re: Has Beenhakker made a significant difference ?

« on: November 22, 2005, 10:53:41 AM »

By the way....look to the comments of the players if you want an answer to the question posted as the title of the thread.  They all make comments such as:

- The coach knows what he is doing

- We understand what we are being asked to do

- You can see a PLAN with respect to the drills & exercises we do in practice.

All dat knowledge, understanding and planning and we still giving up sorf early goals and coming 5th in the Hex?

YUH DOH FEDUP TALKING SHIT

Beenie gave the team,
1) Structure (effective dynamic structure) around the top of the 18 yd box.
2) Definite attacking structure w/i a game plan

What the players do (and are still struggling with) is to play an open game and get goals within the confines of this plan. This is not an easy task given the time constraints especially and the fact that we were pressed to perform well enough to get to the WC.

Make no mistake the reason we have not made the WC before is primarily through coaching and planning weaknesses..... 

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Football / Re: Which Team had the better Cinderella story,TNT or Jamaica?

« on: November 22, 2005, 10:41:12 AM »

Jamaica and jamaicans have every reason to be proud of that team.  I followed their exploits as if I were Jakan and they did very, very well.

Funnily enough i was pretty proud of Jamaica as well.... wished we had first dibs but you snooze you lose.... people need to see past their backyard and support the Caribbean as a whole and the exploits of nations on a separate basis as necessary. There really is no better or worse because we all won with Jamaica and we all win with Trinidad.... if yuh brother get a good payday an you turn around and get a good payday, an both brothers work hard and deserve it then is beers all around.... i happy for them an' them happy for we... zero tolerance for separationists... everybody have a choice...   disclaimer... kids will be eligible to play for Trinidad,Jamaica,USA..... figure that out!!

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Football / Re: What assness Alvin talkin on Vibe CT 105FM?

« on: November 22, 2005, 10:19:51 AM »

this is why when AWATT ticket ah man it is always justified

yuh dont have to play ah game in yuh life to know bout football just read all the thread and dem and yuh

good to go

i just give an man ah AWATT ticket fuh saying he never hear the beat bahrain song and it right on de left of

the screen under de fantasy league

 a a , i now seein that there , alyuh know where i could download fighter ?

and allyuh want to ticket me..."new frickin warrior"...nice way to welcome people on the site!!! geeze, sure know how to make a girl feel shitty...i jus never heard the song before and seeing that it was my first time on the site...yuh coulda give a girl a break! and now yuh feeling like a dan cuz you 'ticket a man cuz he never hear the song'. well whatever...its no scene. i go take my frickin ticket!!!

Might i suggest that the AWATT organization coordinate the activities of the WELCOMING COMMITTEE with those of the DISCIPLINARY arm. Additionally a VALUE statement may be developed with a slightly inclusive bent.. yuh know... something along the lines of "may every creed and race find an equal place but may god skewer all waggonists.... " , yuh know in keeping with the goals of the organization... those are the goals aren't they....  Newsbreak... AWATT also needs a public (forumite) relations team...